Re: Programa un suceso, y manejo de wget
On mar, ene 16, 2001 at 07:05:46 -0500, David Felipe Arias Ochoa wrote: Quiero saber como puedo hacer para que mi linux haga alga algo y acabe o entro caso devcirle que termine a determinada hora, ademas como es el manejo de wget para hacer que despues de parada una descarga la pueda reaundar Mira /etc/crontab. 'cron' es un demonio que realiza tareas de mantenimiento y otras programadas por el administrador del sistema cada cierto tiempo marcado en el fichero /etc/crontab. También está 'anacron' que es igual al anterior, con un fichero /etc/anacrontab, con la diferencia respecto a 'cron' de que este no asume que la máquina está encendida las 24h. del dia. Es muy probable que lo que tengas en tu máquina corriendo periódicamente sea 'anacron' y no 'cron'. Yo hice lo mismo que tu quieres mediante arranque automático del PC mediante autosetup por BIOS a una hora de la noche con buenos ratios de descarga (por ejemplo las 3:00h.) y apagado de la máquina, mediante un 'shutdown' programado en /etc/crontab pasado un tiempo estimado para la descarga completa, o bien si lo haces por sesiones, con 'wget' a la hora que convenga, para seguir el proceso al dia siguiente. Saludos, espero haber aclarado algo :) -- Javier Viñuales Gutiérrez [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Conf Modem...
Aquí puede haber una ayuda para todos los que tengan problemas con los modems: - Original Message - From: Druida [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Lista Debian debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 6:03 PM Subject: Re: Conf Modem... Yo use otro programa para detectar el modem y no lo reconocio, creo que era el pppconfig. Tuve que ponerlo manualmente pero el problema es que tengo solo dos puertos que Debian me carga: ttyS0 y ttyS1. El ttyS0 es el del mouse, y creo que podria usar arbitrariamente el otro no? o cómo sé cuál usar? porque en Windows me usa el COM5 y hay un tutorial que te hace crear el ttyS15 para hacer enlace con el /dev/modem y asi usarlo, pero no logré hacerlo. De ahí mi duda de cuál puerto elegir y demas... porque suponiendo que el wvdialconf no me reconozca el modem como me paso con el pppconfig, qué puerto le asigno? esa es mi duda mas que nada, porque aunque en Windows el modem anda, Linux no me lo detecta y tengo que configurarlo manualmente... pero manualmente no sé qué puerto asignar. El modem estoy seguro de que es PCI Full y que no es winmodem, pero no pude hacerlo andar... yo me tiro mas por el lado de que soy muy inexperto, ademas de que un amigo de la lista que entiende mucho mas que yo, me reocmendó ese modem siendo que lo vio funcionar sin dramas. Voy a probar con el wvdialconf mientras espero a algun alma caritativa que me saque esas dudas del puerto y demas. Salu2. - Original Message - From: Enzo Alberto Dari [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Druida [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 10:29 AM Subject: Re: Conf Modem... Druida wrote: Hola a todos... no me maten pero necesito ayuda en la configuracion del modem porque no entiendo nada ya. Me leí el How-To, algunos tutoriales tambien y cosas asi, pero tengo dudas y no logro configurar el modem. Me lo compre hace poco, es un Interno PCI US Robotics. ... Has probado con el wvdial? Tiene un programa para configurar el modem que me ha funcionado bastante bien. Va chequeando los distintos puertos serie y trata de darse cuenta de qué tipo de modem tienes. Se trata del paquete wvdial y el programa de configuración se llama wvdialconf En realidad no me acuerdo de qué es lo que hace el programa en sí, siempre lo usé para detectar el modem (puerto, velocidad y esas cosas), nunca pasé del wvdialconf). Con respecto a los modems internos PCI: efectivamente, la mayoría son winmodems, pero no todos. Yo tengo uno que es un modem en serio y funciona bien en linux. -- Saludos, O__ Enzo.,/ ()_\() Enzo A. Dari | Instituto Balseiro / Centro Atomico Bariloche 8400-S. C. de Bariloche, Argentina | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 54-2944-445208, 54-2944-445100 Fax: 54-2944-445299 Web page: http://cabmec1.cnea.gov.ar/darie/darie.htm -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null Title: The Winmodems-and-Linux HOWTO Next Previous Contents The Winmodems-and-Linux HOWTO Alexandre J., [EMAIL PROTECTED]v1.0, April 2000 This document helps users having a Winmodem for getting it working under Linux. 1. What are Winmodems ? 1.1 They are modems... 1.2 ...not as real modems are ! 1.3 How to know I have a Winmodem 2. ISA or PCI ? 2.1 PCI ? 2.2 or ISA ? 3. Installing a modem driver 3.1 The LT WinModem (from Lucent) 3.2 The LTMODEM program (OpenSource driver) 4. The end... 4.1 Licence, Copyright 4.2 Contact 4.3 Resources Next Previous Contents
SERVIDOR DE CORREO POP3
Amigos: Tengo interés en habilitar en un servidor Linux con Debian 2.2 el servicio de correo POP3. He estado buscado en los How-to en Internet, pero no he podido dar con él, ni nada sobre cómo implementarlo. Alguno de Uds sabe dónde puedo encontrar mayor información al respecto, se los agradeceré. Gracias, Victor A. Valenzuela Copiapó - Chile URL: http://www.tallerlinux.com E-Mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SERVIDOR DE CORREO POP3
On mié, ene 17, 2001 at 09:01:47 -0400, Valenzuela R, Victor wrote: Tengo interés en habilitar en un servidor Linux con Debian 2.2 el servicio de correo POP3. He estado buscado en los How-to en Internet, pero no he podido dar con él, ni nada sobre cómo implementarlo. Alguno de Uds sabe dónde puedo encontrar mayor información al respecto, se los agradeceré. apt-get install qpopper ... y ya está ;-) PS: Tienes más opciones como servidor de correo POP pero te aconsejo que comiences con este, el cual es muy fácil de manejar y si quieres más potencia (a la par que comlejidad en la configuración y mayor flexibilidad), mira otros. -- Javier Viñuales Gutiérrez [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SERVIDOR DE CORREO POP3
On Wed, Jan 17, 2001 at 09:01:47AM -0400, Valenzuela R, Victor wrote: Tengo interés en habilitar en un servidor Linux con Debian 2.2 el servicio de correo POP3. He estado buscado en los How-to en Internet, pero no he podido dar con él, ni nada sobre cómo implementarlo. Alguno de Uds sabe dónde puedo encontrar mayor información al respecto, se los agradeceré. Yo lo único que hice fue instalar el paquete qpopper. No me acuerdo de haber tenido que hacer ninguna configuración especial y funcionó perfectamente a la primera. Saludos, Jaime Villate
RE: [linux_novatos] Programa un suceso, y manejo de wget
Quiero saber como puedo hacer para que mi linux haga alga algo y acabe o entro caso devcirle que termine a determinada hora, Programa el crontab para que haga lo que quieras a la hora que quieras. man crontab Jesus Rudas Simmonds Barranquilla - Colombia
Re: SERVIDOR DE CORREO POP3
Hola Valenzuela... decías, el 09:01-17/ene/2001: Tengo interés en habilitar en un servidor Linux con Debian 2.2 el servicio de correo POP3. He estado buscado en los How-to en Internet, pero no he podido dar con él, ni nada sobre cómo implementarlo. Alguno de Uds sabe dónde puedo encontrar mayor información al respecto, se los agradeceré. Básicamente tienes que: * instalarte el paquete ipop3d * crearles cuentas a todos los usuarios que quieres que puedan acceder * al POP3 de tu máquina con useradd Y con esto, todos los que tengan cuenta en tu máquina se pueden conectar al puerto POP3 con su login y passwd y recoger su correo desde otras máquinas. -- Daniel PaynoGrupo de Usuarios de Linux [EMAIL PROTECTED] Universidad Carlos III de Madrid Nadie creerá que las computadoras son inteligentes hasta que no empiezen a llegar tarde y mentir sobre ello. pgp7ejhyIrdug.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Modo Consola...
El lun, 15 de ene de 2001, a las 02:07:45 -0300, Druida dijo: Si desinstalo el xdm, entro en modo texto como decia... pero despues podria entrar a modo grafico sin dramas con el startx no? supongo que sí pero por sí, podrás. las dudas pregunto... :) Porque eso de CTRL+F1 es bastante liado ya que al querer entrar con star me dice que el server esta ocupado o algo asi, no no, no, para volver a las X WINDOW no tienes que volver a ejecutarlas! con ctrl alt f1 lo que haces es pasarte a la terminal virtual 1, las X siguen ejecutandose en la terminal 7 (CTRL + ALT + F7 o en la 5, no recuerdo (f5)). salu2! -- Windows 2000 no se cuelg· AMIBIOS v2.8. 65535Kb OK. Iniciando Windows 2000... __ | NoP / Compiler| [EMAIL PROTECTED] - ICQ #98602813| | Linux Debian 2.2 | http://www.escomposlinux.org/sromero - #74.821 | ~~
Re: Programa un suceso, y manejo de wget
El mar, 16 de ene de 2001, a las 07:05:46 -0500, David Felipe Arias Ochoa dijo: Quiero saber como puedo hacer para que mi linux haga alga algo y acabe o entro caso devcirle que termine a determinada hora, ademas como es el manejo de wget para hacer que despues de parada una descarga la pueda reaundar Aparte de usar at (para ejecutar procesos, deberias aprender a usar CRON (para ejecutarlos, o acabarlos, con kill). Para wget, sencillamente usa siempre wget -c y cuando quieras parar pulsa ctrl + c. Para continuar donde se quedó, ejecuta la misma orden de antes en el mismo directorio (aunque sea otro dia). _ Uso de CRON para tareas programadas. _ Utilizando crontab -e como usuario (o mediante programas como kcrontab para KDE), se puede editar el fichero de tareas programadas de CRON. Su sintaxis consiste en una línea por taréa, con el siguiente formato: minute hour daymonth month dayweek comando Los valores pueden ser los siguientes: minute 0-59 hour 0-23 day of month 0-31 month 0-12 (or names, see below) day of week0-7 (0 and 7 = sunday) Si algún campo queramos que se ignore (que se ejecute para cualquier valor) pondremos un *. También pueden incluirse múltiples fechas mediante la COMA, como por ejemplo, ejecutar un programa los dias 1,3,5,7 de la semana. Ejemplos: ejecución del programa randsig: A las 12:30 de la mañana: 30 12 * * * /usr/bin/randsig Eso ejecutaría randsig a la 12:30 de cualquier dia de la semana, cualquier día del mes, y en cualquier mes, es decir: ejecutaría randsig todos los días a las 12:30: A las 12:30 de la madrugada: 30 00 * * * /usr/bin/randsig Para disponer del PATH estándar para la ejecución de los comandos (y no tener que añadirlo en todos, pues el PATH no estará disponible) puede incluirse la siguiente línea al principio del fichero: PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:(etc...) Por defecto cron envia un email con la salida estándar y otro con la salida de error (si la hay) al usuario propietario de la tarea. Para evitar esto podemos usar 1/dev/null y 2/dev/null (ambos, o sólo 1 de ellos si queremos conocer los errores, por ejemplo). Ej: 30 12 * * * comando 1/dev/null 2/dev/null También puede usarse /dev/null 21 Se pueden incluír líneas de comentarios con # al principio. Más información: man 5 crontab. (c) 2000 Santiago Romero aka NoP / Compiler. -- Si algo puede fallar, fallará (Murphy). __ | NoP / Compiler| [EMAIL PROTECTED] - ICQ #98602813| | Linux Debian 2.2 | http://www.escomposlinux.org/sromero - #74.821 | ~~
Re: Programa un suceso, y manejo de wget
David Felipe Arias Ochoa wrote: Quiero saber como puedo hacer para que mi linux haga alga algo y acabe o entro caso devcirle que termine a determinada hora, ademas como es el manejo de wget para hacer que despues de parada una descarga la pueda reaundar -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null Para ejecutar un programa a determinada hora usa el at. Teclea man at en la consola para ver las distintas opciones. Con el wget yo uso: /usr/bin/wget -o logfile -nd -c -r -H -i fichero_con_las_URLs_a_descargar -nd para no crear la jerarquía de directorios cuando descargo recursivamente. -c para que continúe desde el punto en que se cortó la transmisión. -r recursivo, self-explained ;-) -H para seguir los enlaces de pega cuando hacemos descarga recursiva. -i lee las URLs a bajar del fichero especificado. No se te olvide poner la opción --passive-ftp si estás detrás de un firewall. Esto lo meto en un selescrí, tal que así: [EMAIL PROTECTED](~)_$ cat Downloads/descarga.sh #! /bin/bash cd /home/jcamen/Downloads /usr/bin/wget -o logfile -nd -c -r -H -i fichero_con_las_URLs_a_descargar donde previamente he escrito en el fichero fichero_con_las_URLs_a_descargar la lista que me quiero bajar. Después lo meto en el crontab, man crontab para ver como usarlo, para que lo ejecute diaria o semanalmente (p.e. todos los sábados a las 03:00 h.) y ya'tá ;-). Saludos, JUAN CARLOS AMENGUALDaylight licked me into shape, UNIVERSIDAD JAUME I I must have been asleep for days DEPARTAMENTO DE INFORMÁTICA and moving lips to breathe her name, CAMPUS DE RIU SEC, EDIFICIO TI I opened up my eyes CASTELLON, 12071. SPAIN.and found myself alone, alone Phone: +34 964 728361 alone above a raging sea Fax: +34 964 728435 that stole the only girl I loved e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and drowned her deep inside of me. Robert Smith (The Cure) - Just like Heaven, Kiss me, Kiss me, Kiss me, 1987, Fiction Rec. -
Re: Modo Consola...
Cesar wrote: Nas. Santiago Romero wrote: El lun, 15 de ene de 2001, a las 02:07:45 -0300, Druida dijo: Si desinstalo el xdm, entro en modo texto como decia... pero despues podria entrar a modo grafico sin dramas con el startx no? supongo que sí pero por sí, podrás. Yo desactivé el xdm (ahora no recuerdo como ) y entro con startx sin problemas. las dudas pregunto... :) Porque eso de CTRL+F1 es bastante liado ya que al querer entrar con star me dice que el server esta ocupado o algo asi, no no, no, para volver a las X WINDOW no tienes que volver a ejecutarlas! con ctrl alt f1 lo que haces es pasarte a la terminal virtual 1, las X siguen ejecutandose en la terminal 7 (CTRL + ALT + F7 o en la 5, no recuerdo (f5)). O en la tres,depende del nº de terminales que tengas definidas en el /etc/inittab, eso si siempre en la última+1. # id:runlevels:action:process 1:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty1 2:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty2 # 3:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty3 # 4:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty4 # 5:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty5 # 6:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty6 Yo solo tengo arrancadas dos. Un saludo. César. -- Windows 2000 no se cuelg· Ojo a mi nunca se me ha colgado Aún lo tengo para instalar. Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
evolution
Hola He dejado que el script de helix-code (ahora cambiado de nombre) me añadiese en el sources.list algo así: deb http://spidermonkey.ximian.com/distributions/debian unstable main y apt-get update... aunque el apt-get install evolution dice que no está el paquete no puedo instalar evolution como paquete individual? tengo de tragar todo gnome? Es para un amigo (yo con pine + icewm voy muy bien) pero bueno, me suena raro... Por cierto, el otro dia vi el aewm, creo que se llama así, un gestor de ventanas... de 17 KB, creo, en contra de loas 200KB y pico de icewm :-) Pero sigo con ice... Hasta pronto! Carles Pina i Estany E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || #ICQ: 14446118 || Nick: Pinux URL: http://www.salleurl.edu/~is08139 Este es un defect...o de...l tec...l...ad...o W...IN9...5.
Problemas con el exim (¿y el dns?)
Enas Tengo dos máquinas: una estacion de trabajo y una que hace de router-firewall, las dos con el exim. El caso es que desde la estacion de trabajo no me deja mandar mails, pues /var/log/exim/rejectlog me dice que 2001-01-17 19:22:28 refused relay (host) to [EMAIL PROTECTED] from [EMAIL PROTECTED] H=(cafetera) [193.57.33.102] (193.57.33.102 does not match any IP address for proxy.ese.dominio.com) Supongo que debe ser algun problema de resolucion de nombres, el caso es que si des de la estacion de trabajo hago un nslookup me dice que nanai, que no hay servidor de nombres... Pero haciendo un host dominio si me responde... El /etc/resolv.conf es exactamente eso: nameserver 194.224.156.2 En el router-firewall está puesto el bind, aunque no he configurado ninguna zona... ¿Deberia hacerlo? ¿Cómo? Lo que si puedo hacer es telnetear al router-proxy al puerto 25 desde la estación de trabajo. ¿Porque si puedo telnetear yo no puede hacrelo el exim? Eso me hace suponer que el exim del router-firewall esta bien, que el problema es del exim o el dns de la estacion de trabajo. Bueno, a ver si me podeis hechar un cablecito... = Jaume Sabater i Lleal mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] =
Re: evolution
He dejado que el script de helix-code (ahora cambiado de nombre) me añadiese en el sources.list algo así: deb http://spidermonkey.ximian.com/distributions/debian unstable main y apt-get update... aunque el apt-get install evolution dice que no está el paquete Evolution está en: deb http://spidermonkey.ximian.com/evolution/distributions/Debian ./ Todavía está verde. Muchos problemas con los acentos, por ejemplo.
apt-get y dselect.
Buenas... Llevo un mes o asi sin actulizar mi woody con lo que el numero de paquetes a actulizar es considerable, y me pasa algo un poco raro. Normalmente acutalizaba siempre con apt-get update; apt-get upgrade pero ahora despues de hacer apt-get update ejecute dselect. El caso es que tengo muchos paquetes que me aparecen como obsolete y que el quiere desinstalar. Me da un poco de miedo. Entre otros estan por ejemplo el task-x-window-system-core y un monton de cosas la mayoria de kde y gnome. Sin embargo si en vez de con dslect lo hago con apt-get update no intenta borrar nada sino solo cambiarme cosas. ?Que esta pasando? Supongo que los paquetes marcados como obsoletos en dselect son paquetes que han sido sustituidos por nbuevas versiones (kde2.0-kde2.1beta) y que dslect me quiere borrar los viejos y apt-get solamente me baja los nuevos dejandome los dos. Estoy en lo cierto? Gracias y saludos. Pablo. -- TITANIC: Famoso transatlántico cuyo casco fue diseñado con Windows.
Locales
Saludos, No sé exactamente qué problema hay con la configuración de locales en mi sistema, el hecho es que siempre que arranco una aplicación obtengo el mensaje: Warning: locale not supported by C library, locale unchanged También recibo alertas de los scripts de Perl. Mi configuración locale actual es: LANG=es_ES.ISO-8859-1 LC_CTYPE=es LC_NUMERIC=es LC_TIME=es LC_COLLATE=es LC_MONETARY=es LC_MESSAGES=es LC_PAPER=es LC_NAME=es LC_ADDRESS=es LC_TELEPHONE=es LC_MEASUREMENT=es LC_IDENTIFICATION=es LC_ALL=es Cual es el problema? Gracias.
Re: evolution
On 17 Jan 2001 20:02:54 +, Carles Pina i Estany wrote: Hola He dejado que el script de helix-code (ahora cambiado de nombre) me añadiese en el sources.list algo así: deb http://spidermonkey.ximian.com/distributions/debian unstable main y apt-get update... aunque el apt-get install evolution dice que no está el paquete te falta la línea de los paquetes de evolution: deb http://spidermonkey.ximian.com/evolution/distributions/Debian ./ y, si quieres los daily snapshots: deb http://spidermonkey.ximian.com/evolution-snapshots/distributions/Debian woody main no puedo instalar evolution como paquete individual? tengo de tragar todo gnome? no, sólo necesitas unas cuantas librerías, pero no todo el GNOME. saludos
Re: Modo Consola...
Pregunta tonta... por qué no se me ocurrio que el CTRL-F1 no te saca de las X y que con CTRL+F7 puedo volver? eso lo sabía pero nunca se me ocurrio volver a las X con CTRL+F7. No me digan tarado... no me digan algo que ya sé... ;) Gracias, saludos. - Original Message - From: Santiago Romero [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Lista Debian debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 6:54 AM Subject: Re: Modo Consola... El lun, 15 de ene de 2001, a las 02:07:45 -0300, Druida dijo: Si desinstalo el xdm, entro en modo texto como decia... pero despues podria entrar a modo grafico sin dramas con el startx no? supongo que sí pero por sí, podrás. las dudas pregunto... :) Porque eso de CTRL+F1 es bastante liado ya que al querer entrar con star me dice que el server esta ocupado o algo asi, no no, no, para volver a las X WINDOW no tienes que volver a ejecutarlas! con ctrl alt f1 lo que haces es pasarte a la terminal virtual 1, las X siguen ejecutandose en la terminal 7 (CTRL + ALT + F7 o en la 5, no recuerdo (f5)). salu2! -- Windows 2000 no se cuelg· AMIBIOS v2.8. 65535Kb OK. Iniciando Windows 2000... __ | NoP / Compiler| [EMAIL PROTECTED] - ICQ #98602813| | Linux Debian 2.2 | http://www.escomposlinux.org/sromero - #74.821 | ~~ -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Modo Consola...
Gracias a todos por sus respuestas... me ayudaron mucho... saludos. - Original Message - From: Cesar [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Debian debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 4:30 PM Subject: Re: Modo Consola... Cesar wrote: Nas. Santiago Romero wrote: El lun, 15 de ene de 2001, a las 02:07:45 -0300, Druida dijo: Si desinstalo el xdm, entro en modo texto como decia... pero despues podria entrar a modo grafico sin dramas con el startx no? supongo que sí pero por sí, podrás. Yo desactivé el xdm (ahora no recuerdo como ) y entro con startx sin problemas. las dudas pregunto... :) Porque eso de CTRL+F1 es bastante liado ya que al querer entrar con star me dice que el server esta ocupado o algo asi, no no, no, para volver a las X WINDOW no tienes que volver a ejecutarlas! con ctrl alt f1 lo que haces es pasarte a la terminal virtual 1, las X siguen ejecutandose en la terminal 7 (CTRL + ALT + F7 o en la 5, no recuerdo (f5)). O en la tres,depende del nº de terminales que tengas definidas en el /etc/inittab, eso si siempre en la última+1. # id:runlevels:action:process 1:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty1 2:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty2 # 3:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty3 # 4:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty4 # 5:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty5 # 6:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty6 Yo solo tengo arrancadas dos. Un saludo. César. -- Windows 2000 no se cuelg· Ojo a mi nunca se me ha colgado Aún lo tengo para instalar. Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: evolution
On 17 Jan 2001 20:07:36 +0100, Jordi Fernandez wrote: He dejado que el script de helix-code (ahora cambiado de nombre) me añadiese en el sources.list algo así: deb http://spidermonkey.ximian.com/distributions/debian unstable main y apt-get update... aunque el apt-get install evolution dice que no está el paquete Evolution está en: deb http://spidermonkey.ximian.com/evolution/distributions/Debian ./ Todavía está verde. Muchos problemas con los acentos, por ejemplo. estaba. En los últimos daily snapshots (deb http://spidermonkey.ximian.com/evolution-snapshots/distributions/Debian woody main) ya funcionan perfectamente los acentos. saludos
El teclado de marras
Hola, posiblemente este es un offtopic muy bestia, pero tengo problemas con acentos, enyes, ç (ce rotas), etc... Hay alguna solución ràpida ? Algun kmap.gz catalán ? Tambien los tengo en las X, pero creo que se debe al XKB que me da error, alguien puede pastear la linea del XF86Config-4, sólo la sección donde aparezca el XKB ? Gracias !
Re: Fwd: Programa en Linux parecido al Contaplus
On 16 Jan 2001, Rodrigo Moya wrote: On 16 Jan 2001 21:30:16 +0100, Aurelio Diaz-Ufano wrote: A propósito... ¿alguien conoce alguna aplicación de Gestión (contabilidad, facturación, etc) bajo Linux? tienes ASPL Fact (aspl-fact.sourceforge.net), que tiene muy buena pinta, aunque no lo he usado nunca Bueno: en realidad aún no lo tienes :-) Estamos en ello, y planeamos sacar algo usable para marzo/abril (ahora estamos de exámenes, jurl). No será todo el programa completo, pero al menos se podrá facturar y llevar una gestión básica de productos. Por cierto: se admite ayuda. ;-) (si alguien echa una mano podremos salvar este periodo vacacional...) saludos -- David Marín Carreño [EMAIL PROTECTED] (aka DaveFX) ICQ UIN: 34866516MMMm http://www.bigfoot.com/~davefx mMMMM mMMMMMmMM Programador oficial de ASPL Fact M mM http://aspl-fact.sourceforge.net mMMM Advanced Software Production Line SL M Software avanzado para GNU/Linux. Administración de sistemas.
Unresolved Sybols
Con el objeto de utilizar los modulos de ALSA para el kernel 2.2.18pre21, instalé el alsa-base 0.5.9d* al paquete alsa-utils0.5* alsaconf-0.4c* etc... el problema es que al hacer modprobe para mi tarjeta y cargar el modulo cmipci.o me aparece un Unresolved Sybols para cada uno de los modulos que trae el alsa-modules, que puedo hacer Gracias a Enzo, que me ayudó con el problema con el paquete alsa-utils
Re: Fwd: Re: Problema con kernel 2.4
En Sun, Jan 14, 2001 at 09:53:09PM +, Miguel Angel Vilela escribió: 1. El soporte PPP está completo y todo integrado en el propio kernel, sin módulos, pero al ejecutar el pppd (v2.4.0 compilado) se queja de que el kernel (2.4.0) carece de soporte para PPP. El mensaje de error que devuelve pppd es: This system lacks kernel support for PPP. This could be because the PPP kernel module could not be loaded, or because PPP was not included in the kernel configuration. If PPP was included as a module, try `/sbin/modprobe -v ppp'. Actualiza a pppd 2.4.0 También tendrás que actualizar, si no lo has hecho, modutils y alguna cosa más. (Ver /usr/src/linux/Documentation/Changes) Francisco Aguilar de Soto Linux reg: 140.527 Debian User
TJATAR TILL NÅGON SVARAR.Nile City (fwd)
Hej! Färlåt min tjatig het-). jo jag försökte uppdatera mina /etc/aliases här utan något gott resultat. Eller ja det vet jag inte förresten. Men jag får ett konsigt meddelande när jag skriver newaliases vid prompten. /usr/lib/smail/mkaliases: /usr/lib/smail/getopt: no such file or directory. Getopt som kommando finns men vad är det för getopt som saknas nu då? Störigt, vad göra? /Anders. -- Forwarded message -- Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 22:16:38 +0200 From: Nicklas Holmberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Michael Holmberg [EMAIL PROTECTED], Anders Holmberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Nile City Nile City - måndag 19.30 sv.tid... yeesss!
(Sem assunto)
MailBR - O e-mail do Brasil -- http://www.mailbr.com.br Faça já o seu. É gratuito!!!
XF86Config ...
Olá, estou usando a versão 2.1, e querendo instalar o X em um IBM NetVista (PC, Pentium III, com placa de vídeo on-board) ... alguém já trilhou estes cascalho e poderia mandar o XfConfig :)) ??? Já tentei uma porrada daqueles drivers que estão na lista ... até agora nada ... Um abraço, Nivaldo
Re: XF86Config ...
estou usando a versão 2.1, e querendo instalar o X em um IBM NetVista (PC, Pentium III, com placa de vídeo on-board) ... alguém já trilhou estes cascalho e poderia mandar o XfConfig :)) ??? Abra a maquina e veja se o chipset eh o Intel 740 (i740) ou Intel 820 (i820). Geralmentes sao este dois que vem com os IBMs (ambos sao suportados pelo drive SVGA desde o XFree 3.3.6). []'s Hélio Alexandre Lopes Loureiro http://helio.loureiro.eng.br [EMAIL PROTECTED] Floripa - SC - Brazil
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Re: XF86Config ...
É 810e on-board. Não existe driver naquele conjunto do XF86Setup para este chip nem para i820... e aí ?? alguma sugestão ?? nem Um abraço, Nivaldo Hélio Alexandre Lopes Loureiro wrote: estou usando a versão 2.1, e querendo instalar o X em um IBM NetVista (PC, Pentium III, com placa de vídeo on-board) ... alguém já trilhou estes cascalho e poderia mandar o XfConfig :)) ??? Abra a maquina e veja se o chipset eh o Intel 740 (i740) ou Intel 820 (i820). Geralmentes sao este dois que vem com os IBMs (ambos sao suportados pelo drive SVGA desde o XFree 3.3.6). []'s Hélio Alexandre Lopes Loureiro http://helio.loureiro.eng.br [EMAIL PROTECTED] Floripa - SC - Brazil -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: XF86Config ...
Sera necessario instalar o XFree 4.02, que tem este driver. (tenho uma placa destas!) Qqr coisa, Nitrogen, [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Nivaldo Antônio Portela de Vasconcelos [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org; Fomerson-Telemar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 4:19 PM Subject: Re: XF86Config ... É 810e on-board. Não existe driver naquele conjunto do XF86Setup para este chip nem para i820... e aí ?? alguma sugestão ?? nem Um abraço, Nivaldo Hélio Alexandre Lopes Loureiro wrote: estou usando a versão 2.1, e querendo instalar o X em um IBM NetVista (PC, Pentium III, com placa de vídeo on-board) ... alguém já trilhou estes cascalho e poderia mandar o XfConfig :)) ??? Abra a maquina e veja se o chipset eh o Intel 740 (i740) ou Intel 820 (i820). Geralmentes sao este dois que vem com os IBMs (ambos sao suportados pelo drive SVGA desde o XFree 3.3.6). []'s Hélio Alexandre Lopes Loureiro http://helio.loureiro.eng.br [EMAIL PROTECTED] Floripa - SC - Brazil -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: XF86Config ...
Complementando o que foi sugerido... Minha placa não é como a sua, mas com vídeo onboard também. O que fiz foi atualizar apenas o arquivo (server) XF86_SVGA da versão 4xx do XFree (copiei por cima do arquivo da versão 3xx para manter o restante da versão da distribuição). E quando configurei pelo xf86config, mandei que utilizasse o próprio. Lá dentro, rodei o xvidtune, copiei os Modelines e ajustei na mão o XF86Config. Resumindo. Fiquei com a versão XFree original da distro, com apenas o server SVGA da versão 4 do XFree. Talvez também resolva no seu caso. Mas não se esqueça de copiar o XF86_SVGA original em backup. Se ainda houver dúvida, mail-me. []s -- Anderson Roberto Grella Físico - UNESP Rio Claro - SP Brasil Linux Registered User #152833 Debian User - Original Message - From: Nitrogen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Nivaldo Antônio Portela de Vasconcelos [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Debian Portuguese debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 8:11 PM Subject: Re: XF86Config ... Sera necessario instalar o XFree 4.02, que tem este driver. (tenho uma placa destas!) Qqr coisa, Nitrogen, [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Nivaldo Antônio Portela de Vasconcelos [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org; Fomerson-Telemar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 4:19 PM Subject: Re: XF86Config ... É 810e on-board. Não existe driver naquele conjunto do XF86Setup para este chip nem para i820... e aí ?? alguma sugestão ?? nem Um abraço, Nivaldo Hélio Alexandre Lopes Loureiro wrote: estou usando a versão 2.1, e querendo instalar o X em um IBM NetVista (PC, Pentium III, com placa de vídeo on-board) ... alguém já trilhou estes cascalho e poderia mandar o XfConfig :)) ??? Abra a maquina e veja se o chipset eh o Intel 740 (i740) ou Intel 820 (i820). Geralmentes sao este dois que vem com os IBMs (ambos sao suportados pelo drive SVGA desde o XFree 3.3.6). []'s Hélio Alexandre Lopes Loureiro http://helio.loureiro.eng.br [EMAIL PROTECTED] Floripa - SC - Brazil -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mh-rmail in emacs falls over at 10k messages.
Greetings, I was starting to enjoy using mh-rmail mode in emacs. It suddenly stopped displaying messages, even though it would read them, at message (or there abouts). The Debian connection? This took about 5 months of debian-user, debian-laptop and kernel-dev. I copied ~/Mail/inbox to ~/Mail/inbox0 and everything started working again. 'nmh' from the command line, seems to be able to cope with this. Paul Schulz -- Paul Schulz, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Foursticks Systems Pty Ltd, http://www.foursticks.com.au 2/259 Glen Osmond Road, FREWVILLE South Australia 5063 Phone +61 8 8338 5500, Fax +61 8 8338 5511, Mob +61 401 981 301
Re: cdrecord problems
Benjamin Pharr wrote: It works, for you, but I gave it a shot with no luck. You mean you tried hdd=scsi? What modules do you have loaded at boot time? None. Everything's compiled into the kernel.
Re: Aaaarrrgggghhh!!!!
Monte Milanuk wrote: /bash head against desk Any idea's suggestions, I'm open to 'em. I would say, use an external card, rather than trying to get an onboard Crystal CS4236B chip to work. I've never seen a report from someone who's managed to get one working. I have the identical setup you have, and I've given up after about three months of trying just about everything. Now I'm out looking for some SB64-like card that is in the ALSA list as definitely supported, and get those fingers firmly crossed. Ugh, this is almost like work!! Yes, except at work you can get paid for beating your head against a wall... -- Best regards, Peter Hugosson-Miller Faber est suae quisque fortunae.
Re: Aaaarrrgggghhh!!!!
On Tue, Jan 16, 2001 at 10:37:17PM -0700, Monte Milanuk wrote: Eric G . Miller wrote: # Card 1: (serial identifier b6 ff ff ff ff 35 68 63 0e) # Vendor Id CSC6835, No Serial Number (-1), checksum 0xB6. # Version 1.0, Vendor version 0.1 # ANSI string --CS4236B-- This would indicate the accelerated cs4232. I think I have more/less the same thing... Whoops! Sorry. I searched for 'cs4236' and forgot to try 'CS4236'. My bad. Ummm... didn't see anything in xconfig for a cs4236 driver... course, it's been one of those weeks :( Maybe need to enable experimental drivers? Ahh, just looking and was thinking of Crystal Soundfusion (CS4280/CS461x). It came up in my head because there's some connection with the CS4611 PCI audio accelerator (which I have, but doesn't work with that driver). Whee! It says: modprobe sound, insmod ad1848, insmod uart401, insmod cs4232 io=* irq=* dma=* dma2=* and it gives nominal values, same as you gave. (about the only thing that is tickling my brain at this point is it refers to the io=0x534 being the same as the 'Windows Sound System' -- do I need to compile in the Microsoft Sound system module to kick this thing in gear?). Tried that. Still didn't work. Same document No you don't want generic WSS (only 8-bit I think). says if this doesnt work, need to use Linux PnP. So, I look in xconfig. Yes, I enabled Plug-n-Pray. It says to check out pnpdump, isapnp, and isapnp.conf. So, I dug a bit thru the manpages for those PNP shouldn't be required (though I've done it with both with no difference -- 'cept some isapnp settings will make the sound worse like in WSS mode). Whoohoo! Looking good! So I do a quick rmmod to remove my still uninitialized cs4232 module, and then do another 'insmod cs4232 io=0x534 irq=5 dma=1 dma2=0'. And this is what I got for my troubles: ishamael:/usr/src/linux/Documentation/sound# insmod cs4232 io=0x534 irq=5 dma=1 dma2=0 Using /lib/modules/2.2.18/misc/cs4232.o I ended up (as before) having to do a Cntrl+'c' to kill it to get my computer back. I tried io=0x220 as well, hoping(praying) for SB compatibility, something. Nada. /bash head against desk Any idea's suggestions, I'm open to 'em. Ugh, this is almost like work!! Maybe consider forking over a couple bucks for a couple SB LIVE soundcards? I understand they're dirt cheap and work well for what they do. I don't understand why your machine would get stuck. Do you have your BIOS set to PNP OS? If so, turn it off. Think I've told you 'bout all I could think of. -- Eric G. Miller egm2@jps.net
apt-get trouble
Hello, just wondering if anyone can help me with this problem I've been having and can't figure out: when I do an apt-get update I get errors from several different servers, randomly, it seems, here is the stderr from the `apt-get update' command (last time I tried it): Failed to fetch http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US/dists/stable/non-US/main/binary-i386/Packages The http server sent an invalid Content-Length header Failed to fetch http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US/dists/stable/non-US/main/binary-i386/Release The http server sent an invalid Content-Length header Failed to fetch http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US/dists/stable/non-US/contrib/binary-i386/Packages The http server sent an invalid Content-Length header Failed to fetch http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US/dists/stable/non-US/contrib/binary-i386/Release The http server sent an invalid Content-Length header Failed to fetch http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US/dists/stable/non-US/non-free/binary-i386/Packages The http server sent an invalid Content-Length header Failed to fetch http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US/dists/stable/non-US/non-free/binary-i386/Release The http server sent an invalid Content-Length header Failed to fetch http://security.debian.org/dists/stable/updates/main/binary-i386/Packages The http server sent an invalid Content-Length header Failed to fetch http://security.debian.org/dists/stable/updates/main/binary-i386/Release The http server sent an invalid Content-Length header Failed to fetch http://security.debian.org/dists/stable/updates/contrib/binary-i386/Packages The http server sent an invalid Content-Length header Failed to fetch http://security.debian.org/dists/stable/updates/non-free/binary-i386/Packages The http server sent an invalid Content-Length header Failed to fetch http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/stable/main/binary-i386/Packages The http server sent an invalid Content-Length header Failed to fetch http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/stable/contrib/binary-i386/Packages The http server sent an invalid Content-Length header Failed to fetch http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/stable/contrib/binary-i386/Release The http server sent an invalid Content-Length header Failed to fetch http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/stable/non-free/binary-i386/Packages The http server sent an invalid Content-Length header Failed to fetch http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/stable/non-free/binary-i386/Release The http server sent an invalid Content-Length header Failed to fetch http://spidermonkey.ximian.com/distributions/debian/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/Packages The http server sent an invalid Content-Length header E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead. And here is my sources.list: # See sources.list(5) for more information, especialy # Remember that you can only use http, ftp or file URIs # CDROMs are managed through the apt-cdrom tool. deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 r0 _Potato_ - Official i386 Binary-1 (2814)]/ unstable contrib main non-US/contrib non-US/main deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 r0 _Potato_ - Official i386 Binary-2 (2814)]/ unstable contrib main non-US/contrib non-US/main deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 r0 _Potato_ - Official i386 Binary-3 (2814)]/ unstable contrib main non-US/contrib non-US/main deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable/non-US main contrib non-free deb http://security.debian.org stable/updates main contrib non-free # Uncomment if you want the apt-get source function to work #deb-src http://http.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free #deb-src http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable non-US deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free #deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free deb ftp://metalab.unc.edu/pub/linux/devel/lang/java/blackdown.org/debian potato non-free deb http://spidermonkey.ximian.com/distributions/debian unstable main Sorry if the mail is a little bit bulky, I am using a thoroughly updated potato (that sounded odd :) TIA jorge santos
Re: AAARGH - Re: cdrecord
On Wed, 17 Jan 2001 10:37:54 +1100, John Griffiths writes: I've been reading this with a lot of interest as i'm a bout to receive a nice new AOpen ATAPI CD-RW. there seems to be conflicting info going around. Can SCSI emulation be done wi th modules or does it require a re-compile? Well, at least with my stock 2.0.38 (or was it .36, I don´t know) kernel it required compiling a custom kernel. I can´t look at a 2.2 stock kernel, ´cause I run a custom 2.0.38 here and custom 2.2´s on my other machines... That´s why I wrote: --- Don´t take my opinions in any form offensive, they´re not meant that way, but please don´t flame me if that´s all not longer true (I set it up with a 2.0.x-kernel and a then-recent cdrecord, so there may have been changes since). --- YMMV, rw -- / Ing. Robert Waldner | Network Engineer | T: +43 1 89933 F: x533 \ \ [EMAIL PROTECTED] |KPNQwest/AT | Diefenbachg. 35, A-1150 /
QT2.x and woody?
From what I've seen on teh web page, Qt2.2 is only avaiable in the unstable/Sid version of Debian at the moment? Or is there a way to get QT2.2 library stuff working in woody? Thanks:) Jon = God, Root. What is the difference? Pitr, User Friendly __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: cdrecord problems
Mike wrote:
SCSI emulation support
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDESCSI
This will provide SCSI host adapter emulation for IDE ATAPI devices,
and will allow you to use a SCSI device driver instead of a native
ATAPI driver.
This is useful if you have an ATAPI device for which no native
driver has been written (for example, an ATAPI PD-CD or CDR drive);
you can then use this emulation together with an appropriate SCSI
device driver. In order to do this, say Y here and to SCSI support
and SCSI generic support, below. You must then provide the kernel
command line hdx=scsi (try man bootparam or see the
documentation of your boot loader (lilo or loadlin) about how to
pass options to the kernel at boot time) for devices if you want the
native EIDE sub-drivers to skip over the native support, so that
this SCSI emulation can be used instead. This is required for use of
CD-RW's.
Note that this option does NOT allow you to attach SCSI devices to a
box that doesn't have a SCSI host adapter installed.
If both this SCSI emulation and native ATAPI support are compiled
into the kernel, the native support will be used.
Part way through is what you sent, at the end is what I sent. To me this
particular passage is self-contradictory. At one point it says you can, and
then goes on to say that you can't. Which portion am I to believe?
I read this to mean that by default the native support will be used if
both are compiled into the kernel, and you can change the default by
using hdx=scsi.
Then there's the matter of whether it's hdx=scsi or hdx=ide-scsi One source
says one thing, another says another thing. What's more confusing is they
*both* *work*. You got your's right from the kernel docs - an authoratative
source, to be sure. I got mine from the CD-Writing HOWTO - not an
authoritative source, but it does work.
drivers/ide/ide.c:
[...]
/*
* Look for drive options: hdx=
*/
if (s[0] == 'h' s[1] == 'd' s[2] = 'a' s[2] = max_drive) {
const char *hd_words[] = {none, noprobe, nowerr, cdrom,
serialize, autotune, noautotune,
slow, swapdata, bswap, flash,
remap, noremap, scsi, NULL};
unit = s[2] - 'a';
hw = unit / MAX_DRIVES;
unit = unit % MAX_DRIVES;
hwif = ide_hwifs[hw];
drive = hwif-drives[unit];
- if (strncmp(s + 4, ide-, 4) == 0) {
- strncpy(drive-driver_req, s + 4, 9);
- goto done;
}
[...]
OK, apparently you can prepend any ide driver option with ide- and
it will still work, so I guess we're both right (but my choice is
clearly the preferred one :-).
brian
Re: cdrecord problems
On Tue, 16 Jan 2001 23:11:12 EST, Mike writes: Yes, I did indeed have conflicts between the IDE CDROM support and the SCSI emulation. Took me quite some time to get it sorted out. Ah, here we go.= =20 Found it. From the help blurb in the SCSI emulation section of make menuconfig: If both this SCSI emulation and native ATAPI support are compiled into the kernel, the native support will be used. So, take out the built-in IDE CDROM support and all will be well. Which, of course, also means that you have to have a hdX=ide-scsi for each and every IDE-cdrom, because without IDE-cdrom-support you would otherwise not be able to use it (I´ve shoot myself in the foot with this once ;) )... Here's his problem: 2. Added append=hdd=3Dide-scsi to my /etc/lilo.conf Should just be hdd=scsi. Search for =scsi in linux/Documentation/Configure.help for more info. I found an old working lilo-config in a backup, where it reads append=ether=5,0x360,eth1 hda=49585,16,63 hdb=ide-scsi hdc=ide-scsi hth, rw -- / Ing. Robert Waldner | Network Engineer | T: +43 1 89933 F: x533 \ \ [EMAIL PROTECTED] |KPNQwest/AT | Diefenbachg. 35, A-1150 /
Re: QT2.x and woody?
Add this to your /etc/apt/sources.list: deb ftp://kde.tdyc.com potato main crypto optional qt1apps then apt-get update; apt-get install libqt2.2 If you plan on compiling any qt2.2 apps, also apt-get install libqt2.2-dev -Rob On Tue, Jan 16, 2001 at 10:57:49PM -0800, Jon Hughes wrote: From what I've seen on teh web page, Qt2.2 is only avaiable in the unstable/Sid version of Debian at the moment? Or is there a way to get QT2.2 library stuff working in woody? Thanks:) Jon = God, Root. What is the difference? Pitr, User Friendly __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: QT2.x and woody?
Sorry, make that deb http://kde.tdyc.com potato main crypto optional qt1apps On Wed, Jan 17, 2001 at 12:36:16AM -0600, Rob VanFleet wrote: Add this to your /etc/apt/sources.list: deb ftp://kde.tdyc.com potato main crypto optional qt1apps then apt-get update; apt-get install libqt2.2 If you plan on compiling any qt2.2 apps, also apt-get install libqt2.2-dev -Rob On Tue, Jan 16, 2001 at 10:57:49PM -0800, Jon Hughes wrote: From what I've seen on teh web page, Qt2.2 is only avaiable in the unstable/Sid version of Debian at the moment? Or is there a way to get QT2.2 library stuff working in woody? Thanks:) Jon = God, Root. What is the difference? Pitr, User Friendly __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mh-rmail in emacs falls over at 10k messages.
On Wed, 17 Jan 2001 16:27:59 +1030, Paul Schulz writes: I was starting to enjoy using mh-rmail mode in emacs. It suddenly stopped displaying messages, even though it would read them, at message (or there abouts). 10k messages seems to shoot every mh-client I ever tried/used/set up. Somewhere in the exmh-docs it´s also mentioned. So my pragmatic attitude told me that 10k msgs/folder isn´t a good thing anyway because it slows down searching et al and if I want to search everything I just use glimpse over all the folders anyway. The Debian connection? s/The/A/ ;) I don´t think so, it´s a problem with other distro´s and self-built systems, too. cheers, rw -- / Ing. Robert Waldner | Network Engineer | T: +43 1 89933 F: x533 \ \ [EMAIL PROTECTED] |KPNQwest/AT | Diefenbachg. 35, A-1150 /
Re: Can't talk to user on same machine
Kent West wrote: tcpdump doesn't seem to be an available command (yes, as root); nor does locate return anything for it. Does this indicate that I'm perhaps missing a package? It's not missing, it's just not installed by default apparently. Run apt-get install tcpdump. My /etc/hosts.deny looks like: ALL: PARANOID ALL: 150.252.128.10 : DENY ALL: 150.252.219.10 : DENY ALL: 150.252.219.10 : DENY ALL: 4.16.229.105 : DENY ALL: 150.252.128.10 : DENY ALL: 150.252.219.10 : DENY ALL: 150.252.128.10 : DENY ALL: 4.16.229.149 : DENY This is not correct. Did you try fixing hosts.deny?
Re: NIC identification
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said... OK i've got a NIC that i need to get working. its PCI appears to support Co-ax as well as cat-45 it has a netware approved sticker on it it has 3 components on it made by Delta the most comprehensible component proclaims itself to be Delta LANF7236 9701F has anyone got any ideas what driver i should use? it has worked with slackware (which does auto-detect) but the HD it was working with has gone to heaven. thanks for any help that can be proferred If it's a PCI nic just pop it into a computer with a PCI bus and see what you get. On Linux you should find this ethernet card listed under /proc/pci someplace. You can also try to do modprobe ne2k-pci as root - it sounds awfully similar to a NE2000 PCI card I have here someplace. - -- - -- Phil Brutsche [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG fingerprint: 9BF9 D84C 37D0 4FA7 1F2D 7E5E FD94 D264 50DE 1CFC GPG key id: 50DE1CFC GPG public key: http://tux.creighton.edu/~pbrutsch/gpg-public-key.asc -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6ZT9b/ZTSZFDeHPwRAjnnAKDb7KxH51ZEKviopEYjQh/fz+RQTwCg0SBW u1q/+zKhCWvv1Re7/cz78Nc= =XLXn -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Q: SB16 ok-Need load other modules?
Hi, I have my SB16 working fine with the following modules compiled and loaded: sound uart401 sb io=0x220 irq=10 dma=1 dma16=5 Everything works. But I didn't find the other card options when compiling to, I believe, load the following modules: mpu_io=0x330 op13 io=0x388 So the question is, have I in fact missed some settings in my kernel (if so, which) compiling and are there further modules and uses of the card and are they those just above? Thanks. Jonathan
Q: Use of XDM.log correct?
Hi, My DEbian system when first loaded dropped me in XDM. I removed the package and have booted to the proimpt and started X manually ever since. Yet I've notice that when X starts it writes the info to an XDM.log file. Is that normal? What would be considering I use .xinitrc and startx? How would I change to that? Thnaks. Jonathan
modules
over the last few days i've been wrestling with a lot of cryptic modules. and so it would seem have others, judging by the list. how difficult would it be to make an apt-like module tool?
Re: Console Blanking
On Tue, Jan 16, 2001 at 08:58:55PM -0600, ktb wrote: On Tue, Jan 16, 2001 at 07:40:03PM -0700, Curtis Hogg wrote: Is there a way to disable the console blanking? If so, how do you go about doing that? It looks like xset s noblank Type xset at the command line and it will spit out options. I have also seen xset s 0 on the list. You can also take a look at the man page for further details. A good place to search for answers is - http://lists.debian.org/search.html looks like xset is a 'user preference utility for X' where curtis was asking about changing CONSOLE settings (console, from what i can tell, meaning alt-ctl-F[1-6]). how do you establish screen-blanking preferences for text consoles, when there's NO x installed at all? -- See, if you were allowed to keep the money, you wouldn't create jobs with it. You'd throw it in the bushes or something. But the government will spend it, thereby creating jobs. -- Dave Barry [EMAIL PROTECTED]***http://www.dontUthink.com/ volunteer to document your experience for next week's newbies -- http://www.eGroups.com/messages/newbieDoc
Re: Console Blanking
On Wed, 17 Jan 2001, will trillich wrote: how do you establish screen-blanking preferences for text consoles, when there's NO x installed at all? setterm is what you need. setterm -blank (and setterm -powersave) allow you to control this.
Re: modules
Hi, is that not something like depmod does, but then better? You have my support! Greetz, Sebastiaan On Wed, 17 Jan 2001, John Griffiths wrote: over the last few days i've been wrestling with a lot of cryptic modules. and so it would seem have others, judging by the list. how difficult would it be to make an apt-like module tool? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Firewalls and IP Maskerade
On Tue, Jan 16, 2001 at 02:41:43PM -0500, seg wrote: Hi, Both my network cards were detected and both seem to be working right. One of them has a local network address which I assigned my self with the following command: ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.1. The other was configured as a cable modem upon installation. When I boot it is assigned the address 24.200.41.15 and the netmask 255.255.255.0. from what i can tell (and based on my setup) you need the address of the cablemodem... if your ip is static, the the cablemodem's probably is, too. if not, you're probably in need of dhcp expertice, which i don't have. :) My routing tables consists of the following entries (all automaticaly configured, I haven't entered any): 192.168.0.0*255.255.255.0u000eth0 24.200.41.0*255.255.255.0u000eth1 defaultmodemcable001.40.0.0.0ug000eth1 My hosts file /etc has the following entries. I added the last 3 entries. 127.0.0.1Lisalocalhost 192.168.0.2 Marge 192.168.0.3 Homer 24.200.41.15LIsa presuming you're using a healthily-updated potato, (debian 2.2) your /etc/network/interfaces should resemble iface lo inet loopback iface eth0 inet static address 192.168.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 network 192.168.0.0 broadcast 192.168.0.255 iface eth1 inet static address 24.200.41.15 netmask 255.255.255.0 network 208.33.90.0 broadcast 24.200.41.255 gateway 24.200.41.cableModemIPnumber then configure all your other networked boxes to be 192.168.0.2,3,4... and have a default/ gateway/router of 192.168.0.1 (being your linux). From my linux box, I can ping addresses on the 192.168.0.0 and 24.200.41.0 networks and I can ping the DNS server (24.200.243.242). I can't ping modemcable001.4 From my win98SE comps I can only ping addresses in the 192.168.0.0 network. If I want to ping addresses in the 24.200.41.0 or the DNS server, I need to enter the following commands: ipchains -P forward ACCEPT and ipcahins -A forward -s 192.168.0.0/24 -d 0/0 -j MASQ. Also before I can enter these commands I need to enable ip_forward: echo 1 ip_forward. . aha! apt-get install ipmasq boy will THAT save you some trouble! I cannot access the internet from any on my win98SE comps. And I haven't installed any applications on my linux box, so I can try accessing any http sites from the this comp. The proxy settings are detected but the pages will not load. What has to be done to fix the situation and to allow games and email progs to go through? make sure your linux can get to the web; try something like lynx http://www.rootprompt.org once your 'ipmasq' package is installed and your ipchains (or ipfwadm for slink users) rules are in place, then any connect success you have on the linux box ought to be reproducible on the windo~1 boxes. theoretically. -- See, if you were allowed to keep the money, you wouldn't create jobs with it. You'd throw it in the bushes or something. But the government will spend it, thereby creating jobs. -- Dave Barry [EMAIL PROTECTED]***http://www.dontUthink.com/ volunteer to document your experience for next week's newbies -- http://www.eGroups.com/messages/newbieDoc
Re: static vs modules
On Tue, Jan 16, 2001 at 12:59:34PM +0100, Sebastiaan wrote: Hello, I was wondering if there is a speed/operating difference when compiling kernel daemons like knfs static in the kernel or in modules. Anyone know something about this? I think there is no measurable (is this spelled right?) difference. (That's what I think, I haven't tested it) Modules are more flexible. For example if you get a new soundcard you only have to insert the new module, you don't need to recompile the whole kernel. -- Thomas Guettler Office: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.interface-business.de Private:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://yi.org/guettli
DHCP and NFS instalation
Hi, how to install Debian via NFS when local host is dynamicaly assigned IP address using DHCP/BOOTTP protocol? Marcin Grzesiak
Re: Is there any way to prevent a package from upgrading?
On Tue, Jan 16, 2001 at 01:07:39PM +0100, Bostjan Muller wrote: * On 16-01-01 at 07:28 kmself@ix.netcom.com (kmself@ix.netcom.com) wrote: See the Debian FAQ. $ echo packagename hold | dpgk --set-selections Cheers. Is there a way to do this with apt-get (I do apt-get -u upgrade, but don't want to upgrade a specific package(s))? my understanding is (watch me get corrected) that APT is a nice interface to the DPKG concept, or that APT evolved out of DPKG and that they each depend on the same settings and so forth. you tell APT smoething, DPKG knows it. and vice versa. [ i think. ] -- See, if you were allowed to keep the money, you wouldn't create jobs with it. You'd throw it in the bushes or something. But the government will spend it, thereby creating jobs. -- Dave Barry [EMAIL PROTECTED]***http://www.dontUthink.com/ your experience could help save next week's newbies! http://www.eGroups.com/messages/newbieDoc
RE: Aaaarrrgggghhh!!!!
can't you just upgrade to the 2.4.0 kernel wich will probably have support built in for this card ... ? -Original Message- From: Eric G . Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 7:21 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Aaaarrrhhh On Tue, Jan 16, 2001 at 10:37:17PM -0700, Monte Milanuk wrote: Eric G . Miller wrote: # Card 1: (serial identifier b6 ff ff ff ff 35 68 63 0e) # Vendor Id CSC6835, No Serial Number (-1), checksum 0xB6. # Version 1.0, Vendor version 0.1 # ANSI string --CS4236B-- This would indicate the accelerated cs4232. I think I have more/less the same thing... Whoops! Sorry. I searched for 'cs4236' and forgot to try 'CS4236'. My bad. Ummm... didn't see anything in xconfig for a cs4236 driver... course, it's been one of those weeks :( Maybe need to enable experimental drivers? Ahh, just looking and was thinking of Crystal Soundfusion (CS4280/CS461x). It came up in my head because there's some connection with the CS4611 PCI audio accelerator (which I have, but doesn't work with that driver). Whee! It says: modprobe sound, insmod ad1848, insmod uart401, insmod cs4232 io=* irq=* dma=* dma2=* and it gives nominal values, same as you gave. (about the only thing that is tickling my brain at this point is it refers to the io=0x534 being the same as the 'Windows Sound System' -- do I need to compile in the Microsoft Sound system module to kick this thing in gear?). Tried that. Still didn't work. Same document No you don't want generic WSS (only 8-bit I think). says if this doesnt work, need to use Linux PnP. So, I look in xconfig. Yes, I enabled Plug-n-Pray. It says to check out pnpdump, isapnp, and isapnp.conf. So, I dug a bit thru the manpages for those PNP shouldn't be required (though I've done it with both with no difference -- 'cept some isapnp settings will make the sound worse like in WSS mode). Whoohoo! Looking good! So I do a quick rmmod to remove my still uninitialized cs4232 module, and then do another 'insmod cs4232 io=0x534 irq=5 dma=1 dma2=0'. And this is what I got for my troubles: ishamael:/usr/src/linux/Documentation/sound# insmod cs4232 io=0x534 irq=5 dma=1 dma2=0 Using /lib/modules/2.2.18/misc/cs4232.o I ended up (as before) having to do a Cntrl+'c' to kill it to get my computer back. I tried io=0x220 as well, hoping(praying) for SB compatibility, something. Nada. /bash head against desk Any idea's suggestions, I'm open to 'em. Ugh, this is almost like work!! Maybe consider forking over a couple bucks for a couple SB LIVE soundcards? I understand they're dirt cheap and work well for what they do. I don't understand why your machine would get stuck. Do you have your BIOS set to PNP OS? If so, turn it off. Think I've told you 'bout all I could think of. -- Eric G. Miller egm2@jps.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: static vs modules
On Tue, Jan 16, 2001 at 12:59:34PM +0100, Sebastiaan wrote: Hello, I was wondering if there is a speed/operating difference when compiling kernel daemons like knfs static in the kernel or in modules. Anyone know something about this? I think there is no measurable (is this spelled right?) difference. (That's what I think, I haven't tested it) Modules are more flexible. For example if you get a new soundcard you only have to insert the new module, you don't need to recompile the whole kernel. I expect there is a few picaseconds latency when the module is first loaded :) Other than that I should think not. Cliff
Re: IMAP MUA and filtering
Hi Matthew,
On Tue, Jan 16, 2001 at 10:59:48PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have recently managed to set up Postfix, and get it to feed to the
Cyrus IMAP server. At the moment I'm using TkRat, but am finding it a
little restrictive.
This isn't an MUA solution, but rather a whole mail system, but it
works well for me.
maildrop is a procmail-like MDA which is packaged for debian, and is
very stable and easy to use. IMHO, its syntax is a lot easier to
understand than procmail - it uses pretty bog-standard conditionals,
curley braces, and posix regexs.
If postfix supports .forward files, you'll need something like
| maildrop -d $USER
in your .forward file (off the top of my head, could be wrong).
Next get courier-imap, which may be available for debian, but if it
isn't it's very easy to compile by hand (configure; make; make
install). It's available at www.courier-mta.com.
Courier uses maildir directories (which are supported by maildrop,
which is by the same author as courier-imap), so you just need to tell
maildrop to, say, deliver debian-user into ./Maildir/.debian-user,
which then becomes available as an imap folder.
You can then read your imap mail with mutt, which now has good support
for imap and imap browsing (hint: try spool = {localhost}INBOX in
your .muttrc). The IMAP client in netscape also works well with this
combination.
If you want to get really fancy, on the courier site you can also find
sqwebmail, which is a hotmail like webmail interface, which works with
the same maildirs as courier-imap. It also has a nice web interface for
writing sorting rules, so you don't have to edit your .mailfilter file
by hand to add new sorting rules.
I use effectively this combination myself, and it works really well.
Could anyone reccomment a good MUA with good support for IMAP and
filtering of incomming mail. I'm assuming one can't use procmail to
filter mail as it won't work in a IMAPd (I think!), so which MUAs are
there out there that both support IMAP and filtering?
I am interested in functionality rather than a pretty GUI, and am more
than happy with a console app if it does everything I need it to.
In this case, you can't go past mutt. Nothing with a pretty gui (even
for windows) comes near it for functionality and spead. It has somewhat
of a steep learning curve, but it's worth it.
cheers,
damon
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Re: Making System Back-Ups
on Wed, Jan 17, 2001 at 08:26:48AM +0100, anonymous wrote: (private reply) Respondee redacted, response to list. On Tue, 16 Jan 2001 13:51:36 PST, kmself@ix.netcom.com writes: http://kmself.home.netcom.com/Linux/FAQs/backups.html I´d slightly extend your script and think that that may be good to include, for people not very familiar with the tools used: - backupdirs=/bin /boot /etc /initrd /lib /opt /root /sbin /usr /var ^^^ ^ See the referenced document as to why it may be unnecessary (and perhaps unwise) to archive system directories which can readily be restored from installation media or via apt-get. excludirs=/var/cache/apt/ /var/log/ /var/tmp/ /var/run/ \ /home/waldner/pics cat /dev/null /tmp/backup.exclude # build list of files to exclude for path in $excludirs do echo Building list of files to exclude for -n find $path 1/tmp/backup.exclude || exit 1 echo done. sleep 2 done echo Exclude-List built. echo for path in $backupdirs do echo System backup on $path -n tar -X /tmp/backup.exclude cIvf /dev/nst0 $path \ 1/tmp/backup.log || exit 1 echo done. sleep 2 done - Yes, you can use find for backups. I find (pun noted) my own mechanisms sufficient. 'find' may produce problems with filenames containing embedded blanks, haven't checked this myself. You may wish to investigate. -- Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.comhttp://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What part of Gestalt don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/ http://www.kuro5hin.org pgpzba8W9TJzf.pgp Description: PGP signature
MUA Blues in X
i've got the MUA blues, badly, i'm feeling slightly depressed, let down and so on. I'm also freaking out on text-based mailclients (i know, i'm a wuzz) and can't find a reasonalby good X-MUA. Mutt, is to much of a hassle for me and lacks some feature. Pine seems like really good but darn i want point-n-click. Balsa, crashes and has some usabiliy issues i really do mind. Spruce, same story. Segmentation fault after reinstall of my system. Evolution, would not install. /usr/bin/ld : -ldb not found Cronos, same story as Evolution Mozilla mail, oh god ! can there really exist something slower than mozilla ? that crashes as often as it does ? and so on and on and on tkmail, tkrat, tried it but didn't really got thrilled. Do i REALLY have to install kde to get something close to say outlook express (i know, i know, but it beats any linux mua i've seen) Suggestion PLEASE.J.L.
Re: MUA Blues in X
i've got the MUA blues, badly, i'm feeling slightly depressed, let down and so on. I'm also freaking out on text-based mailclients (i know, i'm a wuzz) and can't find a reasonalby good X-MUA. Mutt, is to much of a hassle for me and lacks some feature. Pine seems like really good but darn i want point-n-click. Balsa, crashes and has some usabiliy issues i really do mind. Spruce, same story. Segmentation fault after reinstall of my system. Evolution, would not install. /usr/bin/ld : -ldb not found Cronos, same story as Evolution Mozilla mail, oh god ! can there really exist something slower than mozilla ? that crashes as often as it does ? and so on and on and on tkmail, tkrat, tried it but didn't really got thrilled. Do i REALLY have to install kde to get something close to say outlook express (i know, i know, but it beats any linux mua i've seen) Mmm. Well all mua's are awful, just have to live with 'em ! I have never seen anything like quite like outlook... I use KDE2, which has some bizarre behaviour (I don;t know if it is a feature or a bug but when you trawl down a list of message headers and delete them as you go it redraws the header list in an extremely odd way - it drives me nuts), but is liveable with apart from that. I find it hard to imagine what feature you require that Mutt does not have, except point and click of course... I deal with mail as follows. I use mutt to very quickly review/delete/answer mail. Mail that I want to keep or think about I leave in the spool. Later in X I use KDE2 to file mail etc... This is nicer in practise than it sounds in it's description..lol. With mutt I can deal with 90% or more of the mail very quickly. Probably doesnt help your quest, just passing it on .. Cliff
Re: IMAP MUA and filtering
Damon == Damon Muller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Damon I use effectively this combination myself, and it works Damon really well. My only dislike of the above is courier-imap. It insists that all folders appear below INBOX (eg. INBOX.trash) which in turn looks messy and prevents using a hierarchy for your own folders. ie. A commonly known commercial mail program for a non-Debian non-Linux OS would display: imap |- INBOX |- trash |- sent_mail |- sent_mail_1998 |- sent_mail_1999 |- sent_mail_1999_January which is totally broken IMHO, as what I want is: imap |- INBOX |- trash |- sent_mail |- 1998 |- 1999 |- January (this one might be tricky, as nested folders to this depth are not supported by the Maildir++ standard[1]). as none of the folders have anything to do with INBOX, but Courier-imap does not support this. The author was written something and claims that this behaviour is not broken[2], but instead blames the client. I remain unconvinced. I do not believe he answers the question in the FAQ (change the question from Why can't I create any top-level folders, only subfolders of INBOX? to Why do all folder names need to be prefixed with 'INBOX.'? and the answer might make more sense). In short all folders have to be sub folders of INBOX because that is what courier-imap uses to indicate private (non-shared) mail, and no solution to this problem is given. Note: [1] URL:http://www.inter7.com/courierimap/README.maildirquota.html, and search for Mission statement. [2] URL:http://www.inter7.com/courierimap/FAQ.html#namespace -- Brian May [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: find???
Stephen Brooker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Can anyone give any hints as to why find is running and what might be starting it? It is probably run from the daily updatedb or checksecurity cron scripts. ps fax should show which. You can of course disable those scripts but then you lose some features. I run them via nice so they don't slow down the system so much (I hope).
RE: MUA Blues in X
Well, it does make it clear to me that i will have to embrace console base mua's sooner then i think. Don't wanna go back to Win2K, thought it is tempting. Still, how HARD can it be to write something decent ? That does not require knowledge of compiler's to install and so on. I pray some rogue genius takes it up to him/herself to create a superb MUA for X. That will be the day i'll be smiling again. Okay, maybe a little sooner but this is getting to me, how on earth is linux going to rival with any Desktop-OS if it lacks these basic things. Good Technology but very weak user-focused developments Browsers, same story. You would not want to say mozilla/netscape is a breeze to work with would ya ? I've never seen it work without crashing (ie on win2k does to but not as often) Galeon seems like a good option but it a mess to install since Mozilla seems to be too NEW ... boehoe It's a problem with a lot of the X app's i've seen, the menu's slide down instead of popping up. Still, i like X AND Linux big time. J.L. -Original Message- From: Cliff Sarginson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 10:19 AM To: Joris Lambrecht; 'debian-user@lists.debian.org' Subject: Re: MUA Blues in X i've got the MUA blues, badly, i'm feeling slightly depressed, let down and so on. I'm also freaking out on text-based mailclients (i know, i'm a wuzz) and can't find a reasonalby good X-MUA. Mutt, is to much of a hassle for me and lacks some feature. Pine seems like really good but darn i want point-n-click. Balsa, crashes and has some usabiliy issues i really do mind. Spruce, same story. Segmentation fault after reinstall of my system. Evolution, would not install. /usr/bin/ld : -ldb not found Cronos, same story as Evolution Mozilla mail, oh god ! can there really exist something slower than mozilla ? that crashes as often as it does ? and so on and on and on tkmail, tkrat, tried it but didn't really got thrilled. Do i REALLY have to install kde to get something close to say outlook express (i know, i know, but it beats any linux mua i've seen) Mmm. Well all mua's are awful, just have to live with 'em ! I have never seen anything like quite like outlook... I use KDE2, which has some bizarre behaviour (I don;t know if it is a feature or a bug but when you trawl down a list of message headers and delete them as you go it redraws the header list in an extremely odd way - it drives me nuts), but is liveable with apart from that. I find it hard to imagine what feature you require that Mutt does not have, except point and click of course... I deal with mail as follows. I use mutt to very quickly review/delete/answer mail. Mail that I want to keep or think about I leave in the spool. Later in X I use KDE2 to file mail etc... This is nicer in practise than it sounds in it's description..lol. With mutt I can deal with 90% or more of the mail very quickly. Probably doesnt help your quest, just passing it on .. Cliff -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: /proc/partitions blocks ?
Each block is 2 sectors, or 1024 bytes (1k) To convert #blocks to MB, just divide it by 1024. Example: 8001 blocks as shown in /proc/partitions would be 7.81 MB. Tom ktb wrote: I'm looking at the /proc/partitions file and it lists block sizes. I've been looking on the web, archives, docs on my system and can't find what the formula is for converting blocks to MBs. Does anyone know how to do this or where to find the info? Thanks, kent -- I'd really love ta wana help ya Flanders but... Homer Simpson
Re: Making System Back-Ups
(I hereby out myself as anonymous, the anonymization being pointless anyway, since Karsten hasn´t checked his References-Headers and they would reveal me anyway ;) ) On Wed, 17 Jan 2001 00:49:06 PST, kmself@ix.netcom.com writes: on Wed, Jan 17, 2001 at 08:26:48AM +0100, anonymous wrote: (private reply) Respondee redacted, response to list. On Tue, 16 Jan 2001 13:51:36 PST, kmself@ix.netcom.com writes: http://kmself.home.netcom.com/Linux/FAQs/backups.html I=B4d slightly extend your script and think that that may be good to include, for people not very familiar with the tools used: - backupdirs=/bin /boot /etc /initrd /lib /opt /root /sbin /usr /var ^^^ ^ See the referenced document as to why it may be unnecessary (and perhaps unwise) to archive system directories which can readily be restored from installation media or via apt-get. Yes, it may be not be absolutely necessary, but I for one like _full_ backups, that way I can just boot from diskette and restore alleverything (excluding things not needed anyway to get a running system again) in one step. But this is to everyones own liking, IMHO. backup with some path/files excluded Yes, you can use find for backups. I find (pun noted) my own mechanisms sufficient. 'find' may produce problems with filenames containing embedded blanks, haven't checked this myself. You may wish to investigate. Yup, find has troubles with it. But as I don´t want _any_ files on my system containing spaces, I run a little script which changes them all to underscores anyway before I do any backup. But point taken, this is far from perfection (but so is your method ;) ). But this is one of the points of Open Source: everyone can look at the code, make changes and discuss the pros and cons in public. So we could start a discussion which level of complexitivity and abstraction is appropriate for a FAQ and then, once agreed, work out an appropriate solution... cheers, rw -- / Ing. Robert Waldner | Network Engineer | T: +43 1 89933 F: x533 \ \ [EMAIL PROTECTED] |KPNQwest/AT | Diefenbachg. 35, A-1150 /
On bug reporting
Hello! I would like to know if there are guidelines for bug reporting: I use debian unstable, and I find bugs, but I don't report most of them for many reasons. I've never discussed these reasons with anyone. Now I would like to. I identified until now three kind of such unreported bugs: - Evident bugs I work mainly offline, so I don't have constant access to bugs.debian.org, and usually can't know when a bug has already been reported. When I find a bug in a package that is likely to already have been reported, I don't do it to avoid the possibility of flooding the bug database with reduntant reports. An example of this is when tar changed behaviour of the 'I' switch, or when a package can't be upgraded due to missing dependancies (like glademm, erlang and wordtrans are now), or when a package keeps redoing the same debconf questions on most updates. I only report these bugs when I see the problem persisting after a week or two. Should I always report it, instead? - Pedantic bugs Sometimes I notice something that should be different, but I don't know if it is to be considered as a bug, and I don't report it. For example, packages like skipstone, or powermanga or lxdoom appear in the Debian menus but not in the Gnome menus (is there a policy for Gnome menus?), or alsa doesn't load oss-emulation modules on demand with kernel 2.4.0+devfs (are packages supposed to correctly cope with devfs?) Should I be on the safe side and risk reporting a non-bug, or should I be on the other safe side and risk non-reporting a bug? - Non-Debian small bugs Sometimes I find small bugs that are clearly to be reported upstream, like wrong i18n translations (many, many, many of them), usability quirks or even usability suggestions, that I don't report upstream because I can't quickly find the address of the right person, and there's not an handy tool like `bug' for them, or there is, but is online, or there is, offline, but I don't know how to launch it, because every program has its own. It would be very handy to file a `whishlist' bug to the Debian BTS, knowing they are eventually reported upstream, but I don't do it to avoid flooding the BTS with non-debian-related items. Could the Debian BTS be used as a proxy service to upstream mantainers (considering that with debian-native packages it already is supposed to collect these kind of reports anyway) or we should wait for the development of a different common bug reporting system for such little issues? I would like to hear your opinion on this behaviours, to get out of Doubt into The Right Way (TM) to report bugs. Bye! Enrico -- GPG public key available on finger -l [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: bin86
That error seems to get just about everyone when compiling a kernel the first time. If you look back in the debian-user archives far enough, you'll find me asking about it. The base system is only meant to get enough of a running system so that you can then go ahead and install the rest. It should be kept that way. Tom Ken Weingold wrote: The debian.org site says that bin86 a complete 8086 assembler and loader which can make 32-bit code for the 386+ processors (under Linux it's used only to create the 16-bit bootsector and setup binaries). It is not installed in the initial Debian install. Both times I have done new installs of 2.2r2 and gone to rebuild a new kernel (from the source from kernel.org) the build has stopped with an error that it can't find as86. I install the bin86 package and run make again and it goes fine. Am I missing something else that should be there to build the kernel or is bin86 really needed? I am wondering which since if the second, bin86 should be installed with the base system. Thanks. -Ken -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]AIM: ScopusFest
Re: MUA Blues in X
Joris Lambrecht wrote: Well, it does make it clear to me that i will have to embrace console base mua's sooner then i think. Don't wanna go back to Win2K, thought it is tempting. Still, how HARD can it be to write something decent ? That does not require knowledge of compiler's to install and so on. I was in ypur position a little while back with a dual boot finally just to use Outlook. But I wanted asingle boot and the great features which come with having an MTA so I bit the bullet and researched what was out there. The general opinion was that Mutt was the best so I installed, no compiling, and grabbed as many of the setup (.muttrc files) I could fine. It took a good couple of days of fiddling around and and lot's of questions, but I got up and running fairly painlessly and haven't regretted it. Once you get used to Mutt it is far superior to Outlook and you can get very fast on it. My two cents worth is put in the time and you won't be sorry. Okay, maybe a little sooner but this is getting to me, how on earth is linux going to rival with any Desktop-OS if it lacks these basic things. Good True. But while desktop systems such as KDE and Gnome are trying to rival Windows functionality, I don't think Linux itself is, nor should it. And there's the rub. Technology but very weak user-focused developments Browsers, same story. You Bowsers is my one complaint :). Ie is still betetr than anything on Linux. But there's a couple projects coming along that look promising so I don't know if that will the case for long. It's a problem with a lot of the X app's i've seen, the menu's slide down instead of popping up. ??? Still, i like X AND Linux big time. Good. That makes two of us. I think there's a few more on this list... Jonathan
Re: MUA Blues in X
At Wed, 17 Jan 2001 10:55:12 +0100 , Jonathan Gift [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joris Lambrecht wrote: Well, it does make it clear to me that i will have to embrace console base mua's sooner then i think. [..] I was in ypur position a little while back with a dual boot finally just to use Outlook. I'm currently doing just that so that I can still use Pegasus which despite its... oddities... is still better than Outlook. I'm still playing with Mutt but so far I have to say I prefer Peggy, I plan to see whether I can get it running under Wine somehow. Once you get used to Mutt it is far superior to Outlook Yeah, but then so is piping your mail to the console :-) Actually I /do/ quite like Mutt, I just /prefer/ Pegasus. and you can get very fast on it. I've always found using the keys faster than a mouse (think about all that time you spend just dragging the mouse pointer from one end of the screen to the other). Technology but very weak user-focused developments Browsers, same story. You Bowsers is my one complaint :). Ie is still betetr than anything on Linux. One word: Opera. I've only tried it on Win32 so far, but it was the best browser I've used. Keep Mozilla, IE, Lynx, I'll take Opera. At least, I'd take v3, but I didn't like v4 as it started to feel bloated... Hmm, I notice they even do .debs :-) Get your own FREE E-mail address at http://www.linuxfreemail.com Linux FREE Mail is 100% FREE, 100% Linux, and 100% yours!
Re: MUA Blues in X
apt-get install sylpheed On Wed, 17 Jan 2001 10:02:55 +0100 Joris Lambrecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i've got the MUA blues, badly, i'm feeling slightly depressed, let down and so on. I'm also freaking out on text-based mailclients (i know, i'm a wuzz) and can't find a reasonalby good X-MUA. Mutt, is to much of a hassle for me and lacks some feature. Pine seems like really good but darn i want point-n-click. Balsa, crashes and has some usabiliy issues i really do mind. Spruce, same story. Segmentation fault after reinstall of my system. Evolution, would not install. /usr/bin/ld : -ldb not found Cronos, same story as Evolution Mozilla mail, oh god ! can there really exist something slower than mozilla ? that crashes as often as it does ? and so on and on and on tkmail, tkrat, tried it but didn't really got thrilled. Do i REALLY have to install kde to get something close to say outlook express (i know, i know, but it beats any linux mua i've seen) Suggestion PLEASE. J.L.
Re: nbd modem
nbd export only block devices and in my understanding modem (serial line) are char devices. Christophe On Tue, 16 Jan 2001 09:04:29 Oki DZ wrote: Hi, Does anyone ever use nbd (network block device) to remotely mount a modem (which is supposedly to reside on a server)? Does it work on kernel 2.4.0? Thanks in advance, Oki -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Christophe Barbé Software Engineer Lineo High Availability Group 42-46, rue Médéric 92110 Clichy - France phone (33).1.41.40.02.12 fax (33).1.41.40.02.01 www.lineo.com
RE: MUA Blues in X
very nice screenshots at the sylpheed page, i hope those kanji (japanese) characters are specific to the language and not to sylpheed :) http://sylpheed.good-day.net/index.cgi.en#screenshot -Original Message- From: Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 11:58 AM To: Joris Lambrecht Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: MUA Blues in X apt-get install sylpheed On Wed, 17 Jan 2001 10:02:55 +0100 Joris Lambrecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i've got the MUA blues, badly, i'm feeling slightly depressed, let down and so on. I'm also freaking out on text-based mailclients (i know, i'm a wuzz) and can't find a reasonalby good X-MUA. Mutt, is to much of a hassle for me and lacks some feature. Pine seems like really good but darn i want point-n-click. Balsa, crashes and has some usabiliy issues i really do mind. Spruce, same story. Segmentation fault after reinstall of my system. Evolution, would not install. /usr/bin/ld : -ldb not found Cronos, same story as Evolution Mozilla mail, oh god ! can there really exist something slower than mozilla ? that crashes as often as it does ? and so on and on and on tkmail, tkrat, tried it but didn't really got thrilled. Do i REALLY have to install kde to get something close to say outlook express (i know, i know, but it beats any linux mua i've seen) Suggestion PLEASE. J.L.
Re: On bug reporting
Enrico Zini wrote: I would like to know if there are guidelines for bug reporting: I use debian unstable, and I find bugs, but I don't report most of them for many reasons. ... - Evident bugs I work mainly offline, so I don't have constant access to bugs.debian.org, and usually can't know when a bug has already been reported. When I find a bug in a package that is likely to already have been reported, I don't do it to avoid the possibility of flooding the bug database with reduntant reports. ... I only report these bugs when I see the problem persisting after a week or two. Should I always report it, instead? I suggest you write out a bug-report, at least in outline, and check the BTS when you can to see if it has been reported. If it is not reported, file a bug; if it is, check the bug report to see if you can add any relevant information. - Pedantic bugs Sometimes I notice something that should be different, but I don't know if it is to be considered as a bug, and I don't report it. ... Should I be on the safe side and risk reporting a non-bug, or should I be on the other safe side and risk non-reporting a bug? If you're not sure if something is a bug, you can mail package@packages.debian.org; I don't mind receiving such mails, though I don't promise to do more than read them. If you're not sure about the bug, this saves you from leaving your misunderstandings on public record! - Non-Debian small bugs Sometimes I find small bugs that are clearly to be reported upstream, ... It would be very handy to file a `whishlist' bug to the Debian BTS, knowing they are eventually reported upstream, but I don't do it to avoid flooding the BTS with non-debian-related items. Upstream bugs should be checked against the upstream bug list or TODO list or FAQ. If the behaviour is apparently unreported, report it to the Debian BTS; the maintainer should verify your report and pass it on. Some bug reports that I get are actually down to PEBKAC[1] but I don't mind that, because we all have to learn; even if the user has read and misunderstood the documentation, it is useful to know that that piece of documentation can be misunderstood. Upstream bugs are not non-Debian issues. If the package is in Debian, we have a responsibility to try and make it as good as possible. This includes packages' native defects. === [1] PEBKAC: problem exists between keyboard and chair - Illiad -- Oliver Elphick[EMAIL PROTECTED] Isle of Wight http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver PGP: 1024R/32B8FAA1: 97 EA 1D 47 72 3F 28 47 6B 7E 39 CC 56 E4 C1 47 GPG: 1024D/3E1D0C1C: CA12 09E0 E8D5 8870 5839 932A 614D 4C34 3E1D 0C1C And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. Revelation 22:12
Re: MUA Blues in X
and so on and on and on tkmail, tkrat, tried it but didn't really got thrilled. Do i REALLY have to install kde to get something close to say outlook express (i know, i know, but it beats any linux mua i've seen) Suggestion PLEASE. I've been using exmh (tcl/tk based) for years on aix and linux. full featured, fast, graphical, stable etc ... look and feel is quite different from sylpheed (better in my opinion) Since they both rely on MH you can easily switch between sylpheed and exmh. D. -- | Dominique Rousset| Tel: +33 (0)5 59 92 31 71| | Imagerie Géophysique UMR 5831| Fax: +33 (0)5 59 92 31 86| | Univ. Pau et des Pays de l'Adour | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | BP 1115 - F-64013 Pau Cedex - France |
Re: Making System Back-Ups
on Wed, Jan 17, 2001 at 10:36:48AM +0100, Robert Waldner ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: (I hereby out myself as anonymous, the anonymization being pointless anyway, since Karsten hasn´t checked his References-Headers and they would reveal me anyway ;) ) g I managed to reply on-list when meaning to go off-list *twice*, in a row, on another group, in the past day or so. So we could start a discussion which level of complexitivity and abstraction is appropriate for a FAQ and then, once agreed, work out an appropriate solution... Well. I could just post the whole thread from SVLUG we had on this very topic last week. Or, those who can't avoid looking at train wrecks can peek for themselves: http://lists.svlug.org/pipermail/svlug/2001-January/005534.html Cheers. -- Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.comhttp://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What part of Gestalt don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/ http://www.kuro5hin.org pgpC1IyzImJf8.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Is there any way to prevent a package from upgrading?
on Wed, Jan 17, 2001 at 02:12:08AM -0600, will trillich ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Tue, Jan 16, 2001 at 01:07:39PM +0100, Bostjan Muller wrote: * On 16-01-01 at 07:28 kmself@ix.netcom.com (kmself@ix.netcom.com) wrote: See the Debian FAQ. $ echo packagename hold | dpgk --set-selections Cheers. Is there a way to do this with apt-get (I do apt-get -u upgrade, but don't want to upgrade a specific package(s))? my understanding is (watch me get corrected) that APT is a nice interface to the DPKG concept, or that APT evolved out of DPKG and that they each depend on the same settings and so forth. apt is a distribution-level management tool. dpkg is largely aimed at specific packages. dpkg is the older tool. you tell APT smoething, DPKG knows it. and vice versa. [ i think. ] Yes. ...the bit about apt and dpkg. I really don't know if you think or not. -- Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.comhttp://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What part of Gestalt don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/ http://www.kuro5hin.org pgpHMsegAE7Qv.pgp Description: PGP signature
Apache, SSL, proxy, etc.
Hello Debianers, I'm in the situation of being the only lucky person in our company with any knowledge of Linux. My skills aren't too high, though. That's why I would like to do some loud thinking about this case I'm working on, and hopefully I'll get som answers to my questions from anyone with higher skills and more experience than myself. I hope some of you have the patience to read the entire thing - it grew pretty large while i wrote it. He's my case: We run IIS on Win2KServer as application server against Oracle inside our firewall. Now we want to provide to our customers the ability to access reports and such things on that IIS via the Internet. Then there are some problems: Our firewall managers won't let any external http-requests through the firewall. To solve this problem, we're planning to run Apache on an existing Debian-box in our DMZ (We already run Apache, but only as a regular web-server). Will Apache serve as if it was the real server, or will it only do http redirection to the IIS? I guess that the latter is true. (Please correct me if I'm wrong.) Then I guess I'll have to make the Apache act as a proxy server of some kind. Unfortunately my knowledge on that subject is poor. I've heard about both mod_proxy and Squid. But then the next problem arises: we need secure connections. We're hoping that we can leave the whole SSL-job to the IIS. But then I read that proxy-servers, or at least Squid, doesn't support decryption/encryption, but will only perform tunnelling of SSL-packets, all of which will have the external client's signature. And then I'm back where I started, right? -They will be stopped by the firewall. (Another assumption: Opening the firewall for https-traffic on port 443 is just as dangerous as opening for http-traffic on port 80. Again: correct me if this isn't true.) This probably means that I should turn Apache into a SSL-and-proxy-animal. I've had a look at Apache-SSL. But some recommend to use Apache and mod_ssl instead. Which one is the best, and which proxy server works best in cooperation with SSL? I appreciate any comments and suggestions on this, since I don't have any skilled discussion partner inhouse. Thanks in advance! PS Please reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] , since I can't cope with the traffic on this list. /PS -- Best regards, Ola Muan talk2me AS Systems departement Oslo, Norway E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.talk2me.no
Looking for a driver for a sound card
I recently purchased a pci sound card for my system and haven't been able to make it work. I tried a generic Yamaha driver, based on things I read when I did a search, and when I try to insmod sb.o, I get a message saying Using /lib/modules/2.2.17/misc/sb.o Device or resource busy Hint: this error can be caused by incorrect module parameters, including invalid IO or IRQ parameters Since it is a pci device, I don't have the ability to change the IO or IRQ parameters, I don't guess. I'm running Debian 2.2, kernel 2.2.17 configured to my machine. The card is an Xwave 4000, which gives me fits trying to find information about it by searching the web since there is a graphics program for Linux called Xwave too. I got a bunch of bad hits. Can anyone help or point me to a place I might have luck getting an answer? Thanks, Jim.
Re: latest wine config
thanks--that worked like a charm cheers Richard Oleksandr Moskalenko wrote: * Richard Black ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Hi all has anyone had any success with the latest wine version 2001011? When I run it I get: Can't open configuration file /home/rblack/.wine/config This error remains if I copy my /etc/wine.conf to /home/rblack/.wine/config and if I do a fresh install (ie delete and reinstall wine) BTW, I noticed an error in the package script: --- The following NEW packages will be installed: libwine wine 0 packages upgraded, 2 newly installed, 0 to remove and 21 not upgraded. Need to get 0B/3812kB of archives. After unpacking 10.5MB will be used. Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Preconfiguring packages .. libwine template parse error: Template parse error near `#!/bin/sh -e', in stanza #1 of /var/lib/debconf/config.10361 --- thanks Richard Hi, Richard, I just tried to install and get wine running for the first time and though it still doesn't run :-( I got the config issue that you seem to be having, too, figured out. In the wine manual somewhere they mention old and new config format. You can get your old wine.conf converted to the new format by copying it to ~/.winerc After doing that start wine and it will convert the config which you'll be able to copy to ~/.wine/config Alex. ### Oleksandr Moskalenko Department of Agronomy Purdue University [EMAIL PROTECTED] ### Imagination is more important than knowledge. -- Albert Einstein -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] begin:vcard n:Black;Richard tel;fax:416-971-4159 tel;home: tel;work:416-217-4350 x-mozilla-html:TRUE org:Algorithmics Inc adr:;;185 Spadina Avenue;Toronto;Ontario;M5T 2C6;Canada version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Financial Engineer x-mozilla-cpt:;-18400 fn:Richard Black end:vcard
Re: Aaaarrrgggghhh!!!!
Eric G . Miller wrote: On Tue, Jan 16, 2001 at 10:37:17PM -0700, Monte Milanuk wrote: Eric G . Miller wrote: # Card 1: (serial identifier b6 ff ff ff ff 35 68 63 0e) # Vendor Id CSC6835, No Serial Number (-1), checksum 0xB6. # Version 1.0, Vendor version 0.1 # ANSI string --CS4236B-- This would indicate the accelerated cs4232. I think I have more/less the same thing... Whoops! Sorry. I searched for 'cs4236' and forgot to try 'CS4236'. My bad. Ummm... didn't see anything in xconfig for a cs4236 driver... course, it's been one of those weeks :( Maybe need to enable experimental drivers? Ahh, just looking and was thinking of Crystal Soundfusion (CS4280/CS461x). It came up in my head because there's some connection with the CS4611 PCI audio accelerator (which I have, but doesn't work with that driver). Whee! It says: modprobe sound, insmod ad1848, insmod uart401, insmod cs4232 io=* irq=* dma=* dma2=* and it gives nominal values, same as you gave. (about the only thing that is tickling my brain at this point is it refers to the io=0x534 being the same as the 'Windows Sound System' -- do I need to compile in the Microsoft Sound system module to kick this thing in gear?). Tried that. Still didn't work. Same document No you don't want generic WSS (only 8-bit I think). says if this doesnt work, need to use Linux PnP. So, I look in xconfig. Yes, I enabled Plug-n-Pray. It says to check out pnpdump, isapnp, and isapnp.conf. So, I dug a bit thru the manpages for those PNP shouldn't be required (though I've done it with both with no difference -- 'cept some isapnp settings will make the sound worse like in WSS mode). Whoohoo! Looking good! So I do a quick rmmod to remove my still uninitialized cs4232 module, and then do another 'insmod cs4232 io=0x534 irq=5 dma=1 dma2=0'. And this is what I got for my troubles: ishamael:/usr/src/linux/Documentation/sound# insmod cs4232 io=0x534 irq=5 dma=1 dma2=0 Using /lib/modules/2.2.18/misc/cs4232.o I ended up (as before) having to do a Cntrl+'c' to kill it to get my computer back. I tried io=0x220 as well, hoping(praying) for SB compatibility, something. Nada. /bash head against desk Any idea's suggestions, I'm open to 'em. Ugh, this is almost like work!! Maybe consider forking over a couple bucks for a couple SB LIVE soundcards? I understand they're dirt cheap and work well for what they do. I don't understand why your machine would get stuck. Do you have your BIOS set to PNP OS? If so, turn it off. Think I've told you 'bout all I could think of. Well, I _have_ a Soundblaster AWE64, and a Soundblaster16(dunno if this one works -- I 'inherited' it). I'd tried the AWE64 awhile back, and it seemed like things didn't want to play nicely, even w/ the onboard sound disabled in the BIOS. The main reasons I've been trying to get the onboard sound working is a) the principle of the thing, and b) I've had it working under RH w/ sndconfig (though w/ that damn 'pop'), and flawlessly under SuSE 6.4 w/ the OSS/commercial drivers and SuSE 7.0/Mandrake 7.2 w/ whatever drivers they use. Unfortunately, I never dug around to see 'how', since things just 'worked'. Thanks for all your help, Eric. I really appreciate it. Monte _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: MUA Blues in X
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bowsers is my one complaint :). Ie is still betetr than anything on Linux. One word: Opera. I would tend to agree. Of them all, and I believe I've tried them all, Opera is light, good looking, and fast. he only problem is the beta and they still charge. Though I hear they(ve got to ads in the Windows version. BTW, I loose my preference's looks settings evry time. Is this just me? ie I pick Motif and next time I start Opera it's back in the default look. Jonathan
Re: NIC identification
often they will pe printed onto th card, or printed onto a sticker that is placed on the card or one of the chips on the card, it will be a in the form: 00:01:02:70:5E:B1 or possbile without the colons, but it will contain that many digits. The first 6 numbers (00:01:02) identify the vendor, and i this case thats 3com (3c905-c-txm) -Casey On Wed, 17 Jan 2001, John Griffiths wrote: At 11:38 PM 1/16/2001 -0600, Casey Webster wrote: if its netware approved you might try the ne2k driver, that thing works for a lot of cards with that sticker, also if you can figure out the card's MAC address (in the form of xx:xx:xx:yy:yy:yy and often on the card somewhere) then search google for a MAC address to vendor converter and pop on the xx:xx:xx from the mac addr and it will give you the vendor of the card and then you can check thier website for the model number and try and figure out what driver to use -Casey well the things we learn.. any ideas what the MAC might look like? where it may be? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Apache, SSL, proxy, etc.
http://www6.software.ibm.com/dl/websphere/http-p Try this, gives you all you want i guess ... try it, nice and easy interface, i've learned apache the easy way and now understand a lot more about the httpd.conf file than by reading some boring book or other doc. -Original Message- From: Ola Muan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 1:51 PM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Apache, SSL, proxy, etc. Hello Debianers, I'm in the situation of being the only lucky person in our company with any knowledge of Linux. My skills aren't too high, though. That's why I would like to do some loud thinking about this case I'm working on, and hopefully I'll get som answers to my questions from anyone with higher skills and more experience than myself. I hope some of you have the patience to read the entire thing - it grew pretty large while i wrote it. He's my case: We run IIS on Win2KServer as application server against Oracle inside our firewall. Now we want to provide to our customers the ability to access reports and such things on that IIS via the Internet. Then there are some problems: Our firewall managers won't let any external http-requests through the firewall. To solve this problem, we're planning to run Apache on an existing Debian-box in our DMZ (We already run Apache, but only as a regular web-server). Will Apache serve as if it was the real server, or will it only do http redirection to the IIS? I guess that the latter is true. (Please correct me if I'm wrong.) Then I guess I'll have to make the Apache act as a proxy server of some kind. Unfortunately my knowledge on that subject is poor. I've heard about both mod_proxy and Squid. But then the next problem arises: we need secure connections. We're hoping that we can leave the whole SSL-job to the IIS. But then I read that proxy-servers, or at least Squid, doesn't support decryption/encryption, but will only perform tunnelling of SSL-packets, all of which will have the external client's signature. And then I'm back where I started, right? -They will be stopped by the firewall. (Another assumption: Opening the firewall for https-traffic on port 443 is just as dangerous as opening for http-traffic on port 80. Again: correct me if this isn't true.) This probably means that I should turn Apache into a SSL-and-proxy-animal. I've had a look at Apache-SSL. But some recommend to use Apache and mod_ssl instead. Which one is the best, and which proxy server works best in cooperation with SSL? I appreciate any comments and suggestions on this, since I don't have any skilled discussion partner inhouse. Thanks in advance! PS Please reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] , since I can't cope with the traffic on this list. /PS -- Best regards, Ola Muan talk2me AS Systems departement Oslo, Norway E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.talk2me.no -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: NIC identification
eh, won't it show when typing ifconfig with one or more options ? -Original Message- From: Casey Webster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 2:26 PM To: John Griffiths Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: NIC identification often they will pe printed onto th card, or printed onto a sticker that is placed on the card or one of the chips on the card, it will be a in the form: 00:01:02:70:5E:B1 or possbile without the colons, but it will contain that many digits. The first 6 numbers (00:01:02) identify the vendor, and i this case thats 3com (3c905-c-txm) -Casey On Wed, 17 Jan 2001, John Griffiths wrote: At 11:38 PM 1/16/2001 -0600, Casey Webster wrote: if its netware approved you might try the ne2k driver, that thing works for a lot of cards with that sticker, also if you can figure out the card's MAC address (in the form of xx:xx:xx:yy:yy:yy and often on the card somewhere) then search google for a MAC address to vendor converter and pop on the xx:xx:xx from the mac addr and it will give you the vendor of the card and then you can check thier website for the model number and try and figure out what driver to use -Casey well the things we learn.. any ideas what the MAC might look like? where it may be? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
curious: Re: running another X from within X
--- David B. Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The first X session's display is :0 . You have to tell 'startx' to start a new X session, on a display other that :0. For instance, startx -- :1 Would start a second X session, accessible by CTRL+ALT+F8. You can also embed an X session in a window; 'man Xnest' for more info. Hi all, curious here, is there a practicle reason for doing this? What is the purpose? xucaen __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: cdrecord problems
Mike wrote: Benjamin Pharr wrote: I'm still having difficulties getting my cd writer to work. Here is what I've done so far: Recompiled my (2.4.0) kernel with scsi-emulation and scsi support. IDE-CDROM support is compiled in statically. ^^^ There's your problem. For the SCSI emulation to work you have to remove the IDE CDROM support. IIRC I had to *completely* remove the IDE support, though it might work if you compile it as a module. I figured that with the SCSI emulation I wouldn't need the IDE syupport, so I left it completely out. While it's true it's _easier_ to setup if you remove IDE CDROM support from the kernel, it's not strickly necessary. For my PD-CD on /dev/hdd to be detected as ide-scsi using a stock Debian kernel, I have used this in lilo.conf: append=hdd=ide-scsi and created a file /etc/modutils/pdcd containing: # Leave hdd for ide-scsi module options ide-cd ignore=/dev/hdd # Run update-modules after editing this file. Then I run /sbin/update-modules and the above shows up in /etc/modules.conf and the kernel's IDE driver doesn't grab hdd on bootup. The only simplifying step I'm missing is how to pass the hdd=ide-scsi info to the kernel using modules.conf instead of lilo.conf (That way, it wouldn't matter if I used lilo or not). Anyone? 1. apt-get install cdrecord 2. Added append=hdd=ide-scsi to my /etc/lilo.conf 3. Ran lilo 4. Added alias scsi_hostadapter ide-scsi to /etc/modutils/aliases 5. Ran update-modules Once you remove the IDE support, these steps should produce working results. -- Mike Werner KA8YSD | He that is slow to believe anything and -- Peter Galbraith, research scientist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maurice Lamontagne Institute, Department of Fisheries and Oceans Canada P.O. Box 1000, Mont-Joli Qc, G5H 3Z4 Canada. 418-775-0852 FAX: 775-0546 6623'rd GNU/Linux user at the Counter - http://counter.li.org/
Software to use the c6711 DSK for music
Hi i would like to experiment with programming DSp processors for music. I was wondering if there exists sofware in the linux community which could be used to generate music using the Texis Intruments C6711: DESCRIPTION: The C6711 DSK replaces and is a superset of the C6211 DSK. The C6711 is binary code compatible with the C6211. I.E. C, assembly and executable code written for the C6211 will run without modification on the C6711. A new DSP starter kit available from Texas Instruments for US $295, provides system design engineers with an easy-to-use, cost-effective way to take their high-performance TMS320C6000 designs from concept to production. The new TMS320C6711 DSP Starter Kit (DSK) not only provides an introduction to 'C6000 technology, but is also powerful enough to use for fast development of networking, communications, imaging and other applications. Operating at 150 MHz, the 'C6711 delivers an impressive 1200 MIPS and 600 MFLOPs for only U.S. $22* (1K units). The to use an innovative 2-level cache memory configuration, which provides high-performance in a very cost-effective solution.
Re: curious: Re: running another X from within X
--- David B. Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The first X session's display is :0 . You have to tell 'startx' to start a new X session, on a display other that :0. For instance, startx -- :1 Would start a second X session, accessible by CTRL+ALT+F8. You can also embed an X session in a window; 'man Xnest' for more info. But you can do it as a diffrent user ? Cliff
Re: NIC identification
somewhere) then search google for a MAC address to vendor converter and pop on the xx:xx:xx from the mac addr and it will give you the vendor of the card and then you can check thier website for the model number and try and figure out what driver to use eh, won't it show when typing ifconfig with one or more options ? Not 'til it's loaded and recognized... the problem originally started because the person doesn't know what card/chipset it is and can't get it loaded. I copied the relevant parts of an early reply above. Regards Hall
Re: Aaaarrrgggghhh!!!!
Monte Milanuk wrote: Eric G . Miller wrote: On Tue, Jan 16, 2001 at 10:37:17PM -0700, Monte Milanuk wrote: Eric G . Miller wrote: # Card 1: (serial identifier b6 ff ff ff ff 35 68 63 0e) # Vendor Id CSC6835, No Serial Number (-1), checksum 0xB6. # Version 1.0, Vendor version 0.1 # ANSI string --CS4236B-- This would indicate the accelerated cs4232. I think I have more/less the same thing... Whoops! Sorry. I searched for 'cs4236' and forgot to try 'CS4236'. My bad. Ummm... didn't see anything in xconfig for a cs4236 driver... course, it's been one of those weeks :( Maybe need to enable experimental drivers? Ahh, just looking and was thinking of Crystal Soundfusion (CS4280/CS461x). It came up in my head because there's some connection with the CS4611 PCI audio accelerator (which I have, but doesn't work with that driver). Whee! It says: modprobe sound, insmod ad1848, insmod uart401, insmod cs4232 io=* irq=* dma=* dma2=* and it gives nominal values, same as you gave. (about the only thing that is tickling my brain at this point is it refers to the io=0x534 being the same as the 'Windows Sound System' -- do I need to compile in the Microsoft Sound system module to kick this thing in gear?). Tried that. Still didn't work. Same document No you don't want generic WSS (only 8-bit I think). says if this doesnt work, need to use Linux PnP. So, I look in xconfig. Yes, I enabled Plug-n-Pray. It says to check out pnpdump, isapnp, and isapnp.conf. So, I dug a bit thru the manpages for those PNP shouldn't be required (though I've done it with both with no difference -- 'cept some isapnp settings will make the sound worse like in WSS mode). Whoohoo! Looking good! So I do a quick rmmod to remove my still uninitialized cs4232 module, and then do another 'insmod cs4232 io=0x534 irq=5 dma=1 dma2=0'. And this is what I got for my troubles: ishamael:/usr/src/linux/Documentation/sound# insmod cs4232 io=0x534 irq=5 dma=1 dma2=0 Using /lib/modules/2.2.18/misc/cs4232.o I ended up (as before) having to do a Cntrl+'c' to kill it to get my computer back. I tried io=0x220 as well, hoping(praying) for SB compatibility, something. Nada. /bash head against desk Any idea's suggestions, I'm open to 'em. Ugh, this is almost like work!! Maybe consider forking over a couple bucks for a couple SB LIVE soundcards? I understand they're dirt cheap and work well for what they do. I don't understand why your machine would get stuck. Do you have your BIOS set to PNP OS? If so, turn it off. Think I've told you 'bout all I could think of. Well, I _have_ a Soundblaster AWE64, and a Soundblaster16(dunno if this one works -- I 'inherited' it). I'd tried the AWE64 awhile back, and it seemed like things didn't want to play nicely, even w/ the onboard sound disabled in the BIOS. The main reasons I've been trying to get the onboard sound working is a) the principle of the thing, and b) I've had it working under RH w/ sndconfig (though w/ that damn 'pop'), and flawlessly under SuSE 6.4 w/ the OSS/commercial drivers and SuSE 7.0/Mandrake 7.2 w/ whatever drivers they use. Unfortunately, I never dug around to see 'how', since things just 'worked'. If you still have them, why don't you try to see if those OSS/commercial drivers work together with Debian? I for one would be _very_ interested to know if that works - it would probably be cheaper to buy commercial drivers for the card I have than to buy a new card (what do they charge BTW?). -- Best regards, Peter Hugosson-Miller Quidquid Latine dictum sit, altum viditur.
Re: cdrecord problems
To quote Benjamin Pharr [EMAIL PROTECTED], # I'm still having difficulties getting my cd writer to work. Here is what # I've done so far: # # Recompiled my (2.4.0) kernel with scsi-emulation and scsi # support. IDE-CDROM support is compiled in statically. # # 1. apt-get install cdrecord # 2. Added append=hdd=ide-scsi to my /etc/lilo.conf # 3. Ran lilo # 4. Added alias scsi_hostadapter ide-scsi to /etc/modutils/aliases # 5. Ran update-modules # # When I reboot everything seems to load just fine, no errors or anything. I # get the following messages at boot time: # # . . . # ide_setup: hdd=ide-scsi # . . . # hdd: SAMSUNG CD-R/RW SW-408B, ATAPI CDROM drive # # When I run cdrecord -scanbus I still get no devices. If I comment out # the append in lilo.conf hdd is mentioned once more at boot time, so # something is happening, I'm just not sure what. Can anyone help me get # this thing fixed? Thanks in advance! Before people start telling you to not compile-in IDE-CDROM support, to start adding lines to lilo.conf etc., here's what I did; In the appropriate section of lilo.conf, I added: append = ignore=hdd hdd=ide-scsi The ignore=hdd tells the IDE code to ignore HDD. Trust me, it works. I know you're probably pissed at everyone else telling you to do different things, but please try this. It should work. If it doesn't, *please* let me know. :) David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: MUA Blues in X
To quote Joris Lambrecht [EMAIL PROTECTED], # Do i REALLY have to install kde to get something close to say outlook # express (i know, i know, but it beats any linux mua i've seen) No, you don't - not in my experience. Currently, for me, Sylpheed is in the sweet spot. It has all the features I use(filtering, newgroup reading/posting, multiple account support, etc., etc.), and none of the features I don't work(calandering, HTML, you name it). Check it out. It's GTK+ based, not GNOME-based, so you don't have to install too much. GTK+, of course. :) David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: MUA Blues in X
To quote Joris Lambrecht [EMAIL PROTECTED], # Do i REALLY have to install kde to get something close to say outlook # express (i know, i know, but it beats any linux mua i've seen) No, you don't - not in my experience. Currently, for me, Sylpheed is in the sweet spot. It has all the features I use(filtering, newgroup reading/posting, multiple account support, etc., etc.), and none of the features I don't work(calandering, HTML, you name it). Only problem is it uses MH mail format... :( Cliff
Re: MUA Blues in X
To quote Cliff Sarginson [EMAIL PROTECTED], # To quote Joris Lambrecht [EMAIL PROTECTED], # # Do i REALLY have to install kde to get something close to say outlook # # express (i know, i know, but it beats any linux mua i've seen) # # No, you don't - not in my experience. # # Currently, for me, Sylpheed is in the sweet spot. It has all the # features I use(filtering, newgroup reading/posting, multiple account # support, etc., etc.), and none of the features I don't work(calandering, # HTML, you name it). # # Only problem is it uses MH mail format... :( Depending on why you think that's a problem, it might not be ;) I've long hated mail apps that munge my stuff. If it's in 'mbox' format, leave it alone. :) Anyways, check out the 'nmh' package. It has lots of tools used with MH-format directories. Very useful. Procmail also support MH-format folders too. David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
RE: Firewalls and IP Maskerade
Hey, I am able to access the internet from my linux box. I tried a few sites with lynx, and they all connected. My /etc/network/interface file has the following entry when I boot up, which is sufficient to properly configure my cable modem NIC as it seems. iface eth1 inet dhcp That /etc/network/interface file is execute on start-up I gather? Could I add an entry for my other NIC? How would I do so if possible? It doesn't seem like I will need to reconfigure the eth1 NIC (since I can access the net). But if I had to and wanted to configure it has a static ip, how would I go about finding my cable modem ip (24.200.41.cablemodemIPnumber)? Finally, I tried the apt-get command. I got an error saying it could not find the packages or something. Do I have to specify where it should look for it (soruces.lists or something)? Thx for the help -Original Message- From: will trillich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 2:52 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Firewalls and IP Maskerade On Tue, Jan 16, 2001 at 02:41:43PM -0500, seg wrote: Hi, Both my network cards were detected and both seem to be working right. One of them has a local network address which I assigned my self with the following command: ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.1. The other was configured as a cable modem upon installation. When I boot it is assigned the address 24.200.41.15 and the netmask 255.255.255.0. from what i can tell (and based on my setup) you need the address of the cablemodem... if your ip is static, the the cablemodem's probably is, too. if not, you're probably in need of dhcp expertice, which i don't have. :) My routing tables consists of the following entries (all automaticaly configured, I haven't entered any): 192.168.0.0*255.255.255.0u000eth0 24.200.41.0*255.255.255.0u000eth1 defaultmodemcable001.40.0.0.0ug000eth1 My hosts file /etc has the following entries. I added the last 3 entries. 127.0.0.1Lisalocalhost 192.168.0.2 Marge 192.168.0.3 Homer 24.200.41.15LIsa presuming you're using a healthily-updated potato, (debian 2.2) your /etc/network/interfaces should resemble iface lo inet loopback iface eth0 inet static address 192.168.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 network 192.168.0.0 broadcast 192.168.0.255 iface eth1 inet static address 24.200.41.15 netmask 255.255.255.0 network 208.33.90.0 broadcast 24.200.41.255 gateway 24.200.41.cableModemIPnumber then configure all your other networked boxes to be 192.168.0.2,3,4... and have a default/ gateway/router of 192.168.0.1 (being your linux). From my linux box, I can ping addresses on the 192.168.0.0 and 24.200.41.0 networks and I can ping the DNS server (24.200.243.242). I can't ping modemcable001.4 From my win98SE comps I can only ping addresses in the 192.168.0.0 network. If I want to ping addresses in the 24.200.41.0 or the DNS server, I need to enter the following commands: ipchains -P forward ACCEPT and ipcahins -A forward -s 192.168.0.0/24 -d 0/0 -j MASQ. Also before I can enter these commands I need to enable ip_forward: echo 1 ip_forward. . aha! apt-get install ipmasq boy will THAT save you some trouble! I cannot access the internet from any on my win98SE comps. And I haven't installed any applications on my linux box, so I can try accessing any http sites from the this comp. The proxy settings are detected but the pages will not load. What has to be done to fix the situation and to allow games and email progs to go through? make sure your linux can get to the web; try something like lynx http://www.rootprompt.org once your 'ipmasq' package is installed and your ipchains (or ipfwadm for slink users) rules are in place, then any connect success you have on the linux box ought to be reproducible on the windo~1 boxes. theoretically. -- See, if you were allowed to keep the money, you wouldn't create jobs with it. You'd throw it in the bushes or something. But the government will spend it, thereby creating jobs. -- Dave Barry [EMAIL PROTECTED]***http://www.dontUthink.com/ volunteer to document your experience for next week's newbies -- http://www.eGroups.com/messages/newbieDoc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: curious: Re: running another X from within X
On Wed, Jan 17, 2001 at 06:05:14AM -0800, Xucaen wrote: is there a practicle reason for doing this? What is the purpose? I'm not the original requester and I assume that he has a different/better reason but... I normally run X in at least 24 bpp (32 if the video card can do it at my preferred resolution). Some of Loki's games will only run in 16 bpp. I'll occasionally run dual Xen so I can play those games without having to shut down wdm first. -- SGI products are used to create the 'Bugs' that entertain us in theatres and at home. - SGI job posting Geek Code 3.1: GCS d? s+: a- C++ UL++$ P+ L+++ E- W--(++) N+ o+ !K w---$ O M- V? PS+ PE Y+ PGP t 5++ X+ R++ tv b+ DI D G e* h+ r y+
Re: XFree86 3.3.6 / Linux 2.4.0 / Intel i810
hi bejamin the XFCom_i810 driver will work with your older XFree86-3.3.x setup for linux-2.2.18 on the i810 chipsets ( onboard SVGA ? ) linux-2.4.0 fails to install the required agpgart.o for the server XFCom_i810 ... so no X11 on 2.4.0 ( yet ) - insmod complains about MAP_NR problem... see the X11 itty-bitty setups if you need mroe info http://www.linux-1U.net/MotherBoard/ have fun alvin http://www.linux-1U.net ... 1U Raid5 ... 500Gb each ... On Tue, 16 Jan 2001, [iso-8859-1] Josep Llauradó Selvas wrote: I haven't managed this combination of kernel - X, but You'll solve this problem using the 2.2.18 kernel, 'cos it has support for USB, that's the reason to move to the new 2.4.0 kernel... On Tue, 16 Jan 2001, Benjamin Pharr wrote: My new desktop is ?blessed? with an Intel i810 chipset that is not supported under XFree86 3.3.6. I have found instructions that make it work with the 2.2.18 kernel and others that make X 4.0.? work with kernel 2.4.0. However, I want 3.3.6 with 2.4.0. ( This is due to the fact that my attempts at apt-geting XFree86 4.0 from unstable have been disastrous, but I need 2.4.0 for USB, etc. ) Has anyone managed this combination yet? Thanks! Ben Pharr -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Josep Llauradó Selvas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Registered User #153481 KeyFP: D82F 525C DD22 02C9 6909 20D6 F622 F3E8 18CD C548 The only intuitive interface is the nipple. After that, it's all learned. (in comp.os.linux.misc, on X interfaces.) _ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
