OffTopic: TallerLINUX Cambia de dirección.
Amigos Linuxeros: Debido a que fue cancelado el dominio de Tallerlinux, lo he cambiado temporalmente a la siguiente dirección http://tallerlinux.cjb.net. Lamento los problemas y/o dificultades que este inconveniente les haya causado. Víctor A. valenzuela Webmaster http://tallerlinux.cjb.net http://www.tallerweb.cl
Re[2]: fetchmail
En fecha Tuesday, April 10, 2001, 11:58:02 PM, escribió: A Ricardo Marcelo Alvarez dijo: Tengo el siguiente problema con fetchmail Creo que podriamos hacer un club...;-) ¿Alguien sabe como solucionar el siguiente problema?: Mi servidor de correo, pongamos hola.mundo.com, y mi dirección de correo [EMAIL PROTECTED] como se le indica a fetchmail? He probado con lo que dicen en varios documentos haciendo: fetchmail hola.mundo.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] pero entonces fetchmail contesta que intenta entrar en la cuenta [EMAIL PROTECTED], cuando el login es [EMAIL PROTECTED] En cambio, si pongo la orden: fetchmail mundo.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] intenta acceder a la cuenta correcta pero al servidor, como es lógico, mundo.com, lo cual no es correcto, ya que el nombre completo del servidor es el que ya he dicho al inicio. ¿Hay alguna manera para decirle a fetchmail que no coincide el servidor con el dominio del login, o algo parecido? Ya no sé por donde intentarlo... Gracias mil por anticipado. Josep
Re: Hola, necesito recondaciones de software para las sig. tareas:
On Tue, 10 Apr 2001, Daniel Payno wrote: Hola Antonio... decías, el 09:16-10/abr/2001: Elige lo que te de la gana pero prueba afio, merece la pena. Pues yo prefiero rsync, la verdad Me parece que no tiene nada que ver. Me da la sensacion que rsync lo usas para minimizar la cantidad de información transferida, pero no está pensado para hacer copias de seguridad. Combinando find con afio puedes hacer un sistema de copias que combine copias globales cada bastante tiempo con copias incrementales muy frecuentes, muy rápidas y muy seguras. La verdad es que no das detalles de lo que haces realmente. No comentas tipo de soporte usado etc.. pero sinceramente dudo que estés haciendo las cosas bien. Es importantísimo poder confiar en las copias realizadas. afio da una seguridad muy grande. Esta pensado para eso. Pienso escribir un largo capítulo sobre copias de seguridad en mi curso. -- Daniel PaynoGrupo de Usuarios de Linux [EMAIL PROTECTED] Administrador del FTP del GUL [EMAIL PROTECTED] Universidad Carlos III de Madrid 666 gcc: you're going to hell for this code style Un saludo Antonio Castro +--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+ /\ /\ Ciberdroide Informática (Tienda de Linux) \\W// http://www.ciberdroide.com _|0 0|_ +-oOOO--(___o___)--OOOo+ | . . . . U U . . . . Antonio Castro Snurmacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | . . . . . . . . . . | +()()()--()()()+ | *** 1.700 sitios clasificados por temas sobre Linux en ***Donde_Linux*** | | http://www.ciberdroide.com/misc/donde/dondelinux.html | +--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+
Re: Re[2]: fetchmail
On Wed, Apr, 11, 2001 at 08:53:25 +0200, Josep wrote: fetchmail hola.mundo.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] ¿Olvidaste la opción -u? ¿Qué pasa con fetchmail hola.mundo.com -u [EMAIL PROTECTED] ^^ -- bli * Debian = GNU/Linux XP *
no puedo entrar con el GDM
Buenas, Llego esta mañana y arranco el ordenador, entro a traves del gdm como usuario normal y me acuerdo de que hoy toca actualizar Debian. Salto a una consola (ctrl+alt+F1) entro como root y ejecuto apt-get update y apt-get upgrade. veo que se pone a actualizar practicamente todo en gnome (y eso que no hacia ni una semana que habia actualizado Debian). tres minutos mas tarde acaba de actualizar. Cierro la consola, salto a la sesion grafica que tenia abierta y como la habia abierto antes de actualizar se me ocurre que quizas deberia cerrarla y volverla a abrir (por si acaso). La cuestion es que despues de cerrarla no he conseguido volver a entrar a traves del gdm, ni como usuario normal, ni como root. Desde consola puedo entrar como root ejecutando startx, pero como usuario no puedo, no me da ningun mensaje de error ni nada parecido. simplemente, no acaba de arrancar y me retorna a la consola. Desde el gdm, tanto como usuario, como root, parece que valida bien, pero me retorna otra vez al login. A ver si me podeis echar un cable, decirme lo que he de mirar, porque me he hecho un lio con los logs y sigo sin ver donde esta el fallo. ¿a alguien le ha pasado algo parecido despues de actualizar? Por si sirve de algo, cojo los paquetes de unstable pero como voy actualizando practicamente cada dia, no suelo tener problemas. lo de hoy, no me lo explico. Gracias Quimi
Chip i810 y XWindows
Me han traído un PC con la tarjeta gráfica en la placa base y tiene el chip i810. No soy capaz de configurar Xwindow. Tengo el kernel 2.4.1 y potato con las opciones de i810 activadas y he bajado un Xserver en formato rpm y luego debianizado XFCom_i810. El problema que me parece que ocurre es que no ve la memoria de la tarjeta gráfica. Me ha parecido leer que las xfree con el xserver SVGA también soporta este chip, pero ni con un servidor ni con el otro soy capaz de arrancar las XWindows. Con XF86Setup consigo arrancar una configuración pero debe ser a 320 x 300 y 8bits, porque cuando me conmuta y me presenta la pantalla de xdvinetune (o algo así) solo me presenta un cuarto de pantalla y no veo ni los botones para abortar con el ratón. ¿Alguién tiene esta tarjeta gráfica en placa base y que me pueda enviar el fichero XF86Config y el xserver que usa ? O la manera de solucionar el problema. Saludos
deshacer dselect
Hola Un amigo usa dselect... y ya van dos veces que entra dentro dselect, y entonces sale pero no quiere hacer nada y no hace control+c. Entonces hace apt-get install algo... y quiere hacerle todo lo que no quería hacer... hay alguna manera de decirle que se olvide de lo dicho con dselect? Y ya que estamos, en woody se sigue usando dselect? o aptitude ya está maduro... Muchas gracias Carles Pina i Estany E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] || #Linux User: 87347 || Nick: Pinux URL: http://www.salleURL.edu/~is08139 Me llaman 'el seis pesetas'...porque me paso de duro.
Re: no puedo entrar con el GDM
On mié, abr 11, 2001 at 09:52:17 +0200, Fernández Piqueras, Joaquín wrote: Buenas, Buenas Llego esta mañana y arranco el ordenador, entro a traves del gdm como usuario normal y me acuerdo de que hoy toca actualizar Debian. Salto a una [...] Vale, lo mismo me ha pasado a mi, estás usando unstable por lo que veo, al leer los ficheros de error de inicio de sesión de gdm (~/.gdm-errors) se puede comprobar que es un problema con la versión de OpenSSL pues aparece: OpenSSL version mismatch. Built against 90600f, you have 90601f. Si me entero de como se resuelve esto en breve lo mando a la lista, voy a preguntar por ahí. Son las cosas que tiene usar unstable, nada recomendable para el que ha de usar el sistema para producción, yo tengo unstable en el portátil para desarrollo debian, sino tendría potato ;-) Saludos. -- Javier Viñuales Gutiérrez [EMAIL PROTECTED] GnuPG public information: pub 1024D/4EB82468 1C2A 0241 D350 B43D E027 4FCD F8E8 3454 4EB8 2468
Re: deshacer dselect
On mié, abr 11, 2001 at 11:01:33 +, Carles Pina i Estany wrote: Hola Hola Un amigo usa dselect... y ya van dos veces que entra dentro dselect, y entonces sale pero no quiere hacer nada y no hace control+c. Entonces hace apt-get install algo... y quiere hacerle todo lo que no quería hacer... hay alguna manera de decirle que se olvide de lo dicho con dselect? Como root, debería tener cuidado con lo que hace y deshace pero bueno, Debian tiene recurso para ello y en /var/lib/dpkg se guardan versiones anteriores del fichero de estado de la base de paquetes del sistema. Puede hacer $ cp /var/lib/dpkg/status /var/lib/dpkg/status-BACKUP --- MUY IMPORTANTE $ cp /var/lib/dpkg/status-old /var/lib/dpkg/status y ver si ese estado era el que tenía antes de estropearlo, si no, que pruebe con los anteriores. Y ya que estamos, en woody se sigue usando dselect? o aptitude ya está maduro... aptitude no está maduro pero avanza rápido, hay varios frentes para la interfaz de apt que sustituya el uso de dselect como deity pero están en fase de análisis y desarrollo, dselect será un peñazo (que conste que a mi me sigue gustando, será la costumbre) pero es muy muy muy estable y robusto. Muchas gracias Muchas denadas, saludos. -- Javier Viñuales Gutiérrez [EMAIL PROTECTED] GnuPG public information: pub 1024D/4EB82468 1C2A 0241 D350 B43D E027 4FCD F8E8 3454 4EB8 2468
Linux, Unix, Windows y ADSL
Buenas a todos. Necesito saber que tipo de problemas puede haber con Linux y cualquier tipo de Unix si contrato una linea ADSL. Adicionalmente, ¿ alguien me puede aconsejar un proveedor decente ??? Gracias. _ Do You Yahoo!? Obtenga su dirección de correo-e gratis @yahoo.com en http://correo.espanol.yahoo.com
Re: Linux, Unix, Windows y ADSL
On mié, abr 11, 2001 at 05:15:46 -0500, Carlos López wrote: Buenas a todos. Buenas. Necesito saber que tipo de problemas puede haber con Linux y cualquier tipo de Unix si contrato una linea ADSL. Teniendo soporte en el sistema para tarjetas de red ethernet y contratando el servicio ADSL mediante un router externo, ningún problema. Adicionalmente, ¿ alguien me puede aconsejar un proveedor decente ??? Yo lo tengo con Infonegocio (Telefónica Data, es un servicio para profesionales) y salvo el tiempo de espera para la instalación (ahora es mucho menos, yo los pillé cuando estaban comenzando a implantarlo en mi ciudad y estaban más que despistados) todo me ha ido perfecto. Saludos. -- Javier Viñuales Gutiérrez [EMAIL PROTECTED] GnuPG public information: pub 1024D/4EB82468 1C2A 0241 D350 B43D E027 4FCD F8E8 3454 4EB8 2468
Desinstalación forzada
Un saludo a todos. Simplemente quería saber si, lo que acabo de hacer, hay una forma más 'civilizada' de llevarlo a cabo. Resulta que me bajé el qmail-src y, tras la compilación (que hay que ver lo fácil que te lo ponen con build-"package" :)) resulta que intenté instalarlo. Lógicamente me dio un conflicto con postfix. Al tratar de desinstalar postfix dio errores de dependencias de paquetes como at, logrotate y alguno más. Solución: forcé la desinstalación de postfix e instale qmail. ¿Es esta la solución óptima o hay alguna forma más 'elegante' de hacerlo? Como siempre, un millón de gracias ;) -- Imobach gonzález Sosa [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] osoh en irch-hispano
Cómo corregir el error de unstable con ssh
Hola, como alguno que otro en la lista y otro foro ha tenido en la última actualización de unstable problemas debidos a que no puede entrar en las X, o usar ssh, etc, la forma de resolverlo es de lo más debianera :) fakeroot apt-get source -b ssh Y ya sólo queda instalar los paquetes ssh_2.5.2p2-1_i386.deb y ssh-askpass-gnome_2.5.2p2-1_i386.deb. ¿Cual era el problema?, pues muy tonto: ssh de unstable está actualmente roto debido a que OpenSSH está compilado contra libssl0.9.6 y en la última actualización este paquete se actualizó a libssl0.9.6a-1. Regenerando los paquetes deb mediante 'apt-get source...' e instalandolos, problema resuelto. Saludos. -- Javier Viñuales Gutiérrez [EMAIL PROTECTED] GnuPG public information: pub 1024D/4EB82468 1C2A 0241 D350 B43D E027 4FCD F8E8 3454 4EB8 2468
Embeber 'pdf' en la ventana del ordenador
Hola a todos. ¿Se os ocurre alguna forma de embeber un documento pdf abierto por xpdf en la ventana del navegador, tal como hace el plugin de acroread? ¡El acroread de linux es un horror! -- Usuario de Debian GNU/Linux, Potato. Registro 90705 en http://counter.li.org ICQ UIN: #63192058
Re: Embeber 'pdf' en la ventana del ordenador
On mié, abr 11, 2001 at 12:13:35 +, Manuel Jiménez wrote: Hola a todos. ¿Se os ocurre alguna forma de embeber un documento pdf abierto por xpdf en la ventana del navegador, tal como hace el plugin de acroread? Usa konkeror sobre KDE2 y fliparás :) Te lo dice un Gnomero 0:-) ¡El acroread de linux es un horror! Suscribo tu exclamación, saludos. -- Javier Viñuales Gutiérrez [EMAIL PROTECTED] GnuPG public information: pub 1024D/4EB82468 1C2A 0241 D350 B43D E027 4FCD F8E8 3454 4EB8 2468
Re: Embeber 'pdf' en la ventana del ordenador
Hay un plugin antiguo, genérico, y que debería funcionar para cualquier programa que se llama xswallow. El problema es que, por limitaciones de distribución, se ha quitado de Debian, pero lo puedes encontrar en http://www.dat.etsit.upm.es/~jfs/debian/xswallow Javi On Wed, Apr 11, 2001 at 12:13:35PM +, Manuel Jiménez wrote: Hola a todos. ¿Se os ocurre alguna forma de embeber un documento pdf abierto por xpdf en la ventana del navegador, tal como hace el plugin de acroread? ¡El acroread de linux es un horror! -- Usuario de Debian GNU/Linux, Potato. Registro 90705 en http://counter.li.org ICQ UIN: #63192058 -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re[4]: fetchmail
En fecha Wednesday, April 11, 2001, 9:36:25 AM, escribió: TB On Wed, Apr, 11, 2001 at 08:53:25 +0200, Josep wrote: fetchmail hola.mundo.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] TB ¿Olvidaste la opción -u? oh, oh TB ¿Qué pasa con TB fetchmail hola.mundo.com -u [EMAIL PROTECTED] TB ^^ Pasa que un servidor ya no sabe ni leer Gracias mil, ya funciona. Ahora a pelearme con procmail y mutt X-). -- Saludos, Josepmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Solucion] GLX para usuarios no root
El Mié 11 Abr 2001 00:01, Amaya escribió: Adrián Baños Sabater dijo: Más que una solución es prueba de mi incompetencia ¬¬U. No se me paso por la cabeza cambiar la profundidad de color de las X en un principio. Vamos, que si pongo todo a 16bpp OpenGL va de vicio. Ahora me gustaria saber si es posible cambiar los bpp como usuario .. o como se hace .. o decirme que RTFM .. etc. Para las X 4.0.x: startx -- -depth 24 Parece que tras la ultima actualizacion a Woody se ha arreglado el problema, ahora ya tira todo bien. Ni me hace falta entrar como root ni en 16bpp. Sin embargo, estoy usando el mismo driver para acelerar las X ( el d NVIDIA ). No, si resulta que los chicos estos de NVIDIA no son unos cebelloas y todo :^ ) Lo realmente raro es que no vi rastro en bugs.debian.org , o quizas el error era solo reproducible en mi maquina. En fin ... otro expediente X.
FTP
Hola tropa Sabeis de algun buen programa gràfico para ftp? Antes usaba xftp -el de la SuSE- pero aca no lo encuentro i el KBear no me conecta-ja veré que le pasa-. Gràcias -- Sort Antoni Bella Perez # # [Pàgina de traduccions del nucli Linux] # http://www.terra.es/personal4/bella5/traduccions.htm # [P`agina del Nucleo Linux en catalan] [EMAIL PROTECTED]##
Re: Embeber 'pdf' en la ventana del ordenador
El mié, 11 de abr de 2001, a las 04:56:36 +0200, Javier Fdz-Sanguino Pen~a dijo: Hay un plugin antiguo, genérico, y que debería funcionar para cualquier programa que se llama xswallow. (...) Pues exactamente eso era lo que quería. Había olvidado completamente ese plugin desde la Debian 1.3 (claro: eran mis comienzos y había tanto que aprender ...) Embebe el xpdf sin problemas y con rapidez. Sólo que convierte el 'popup' con el 'copyrigth' en el típico 'Netscape subprocess error'. ¡Ah! la instalación con tu 'deb' reclama dependencias con el metapaquete Netscape, así que lo instalé a las bravas en el '.netscape' de usuario. Gracias y un abrazo: Manuel ---fin de respuesta a mensaje [EMAIL PROTECTED]--- -- Usuario de Debian GNU/Linux, Potato. Registro 90705 en http://counter.li.org ICQ UIN: #63192058
alguien trabajando con netsaint????
me gustaria ponerme en contacto si es posible
Re: Embeber 'pdf' en la ventana del ordenador
On Wed, Apr 11, 2001 at 05:36:23PM +, Manuel Jiménez wrote: El mié, 11 de abr de 2001, a las 04:56:36 +0200, Javier Fdz-Sanguino Pen~a dijo: ¡Ah! la instalación con tu 'deb' reclama dependencias con el metapaquete Netscape, así que lo instalé a las bravas en el '.netscape' de usuario. Gracias y un abrazo: Manuel Si, el problema es que no esta actualizado al sistema actual de dependencias de netscape :( Javi
Re: FTP
On Wed, Apr 11, 2001 at 06:59:26PM +0200, Toni B wrote: Hola tropa Sabeis de algun buen programa gràfico para ftp? Hola, si te mola está el gftp (usa GTK+). No es de lo mejor que hay en cuanto a estabilidad pero para un uso normal está bien. Lo de la estabilidad lo digo porque fue el único programa capaz de bloquear mi PC, concretamente bloqueaba las X en una RedHat 6.2, aunque en Debian no me ha dado ningún problema. -- ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Miguel Ángel Vilela ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ A.k.a. miguev at IRC-Hispano and Gulic. Santa Cruz de Tenerife, Islas Canarias (Spain). Fingerprint: AB5C C6D7 FC75 0AE9 CE7A 23AD D05B C23A 7E32 B773 Clave GPG en http://search.keyserver.net/ || Buscar: miguev Web: http://usuarios.tripod.es/miguev/ (en desarrollo) ICQ: #72624205 || Nick: miguev GULIC - Grupo de Usuarios de LInux de Canarias - http://www.gulic.org Powered by Linux 2.4.2 on a Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 Potato Linux Registered User #184518 (http://counter.li.org) Linux Registered Box #81674 (IBM Aptiva 2175-352, P120, 32RAM, 1GB) Linux Driver Petition #73209 (http://www.libralinux.com/petition.spanish.html) /// (@ @) -oOO(_)OOo--- ¡Qué dulde es el sueño en la primavera! No me despierta el alba hasta que por doquier se oye el canto de las aves vocinegras. Anoche escuché el ruido del viendo y de la lluvia. Y me pregunto: ¿cuántas flores se habrán caido? Men Haoran / Madrugada de primavera. - pgp6i4F4sfMDM.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Particiones
Yo tengo un RAID0 con 6 discos, 4 en dos canales IDE y 2 en un SCSI, todos juntos en amor y compañía, y no ha petado todavía. La verdad es que lo monté con urgencia por necesidad de espacio, pensando en cambiarlo, pero en dos meses que lleva va genial. Saludos. El 11 Apr 2001 a las 12:10AM +0200, Andres Herrera escribio: Guenas El Mon, Apr 09, 2001 at 09:26:51AM -0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disidio iscribir: Vale la pena montar un RAID0 para una pc hogareña? Digo, que ventajas puede tener respecto de una configuración normal (es más rápida?) Hombre, rápida sí que es, aunque se puede estropear todo si lo montas con discos IDE colocados en el mismo canal. Quizás es una configuración demasiado insegura para según qué cosas, pero si necesitas mejorar el rendimiento de disco sin utilizar más recursos el RAID0 es una posibilidad fácil y que da rendimiento. Saludines -- - Andres Herrera[EMAIL PROTECTED] | N.Reg: 66054 Debian Potato | bqp/AndresHE Clave GPG: http://www.escomposlinux.org/aherrerm/aherrerm.gpg - -- Andres Seco Hernandez- [EMAIL PROTECTED] MCP ID 445900 - http://andressh.alamin.org GnuPG public information: pub 1024D/3A48C934 E61C 08A9 EBC8 12E4 F363 E359 EDAC BE0B 3A48 C934 -- Alamin GSM SMS Gateway - http://www.alamin.org Debian GNU/Linux - http://www.debian.org Grupo de Usuarios de GNU/Linux de Guadalajara y alrededores - http://gulalcarria.sourceforge.net -- pgpxe3DWeSBhU.pgp Description: PGP signature
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hola nesecito reseña historica del sistema operativo XENIX ventajas , deventajas versiones etc gracias por su colaboracion
Re: Fallo en arranque de Potato
On Tuesday 10 April 2001 22:15, Bella Tabucci wrote: Hola! Buenas Noches. a) Hechos.- Potato 2.2.17, ayer funcionaba bien y fue parada con el comando 'halt'. Hoy martes, no arranca. Inicia el arranque, lee las particiones y emite el siguiente mensaje: 'Transaction Block Size =512 Invalid session number or type of track Kernel Panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 03:01' La version normal no arranca, un nucleo compilado, de la misma distribucion, bajo el nombre 22, tampoco. Desde boot-disk tampoco, desde rescue-disk dandole el parametro 'rescue root=/dev/had1/... 2) ¿por que se ha producido? 3) ¿tiene arreglo? 4) ¿Como? UNA RESPUESTA DIJO:Cuando te salga el prompt de LILO al arrancar desde el CD de instalación escribe: rescue root=/dev/hda1 Lamentablemente no se trata del LILO. lo del had1 y hda1 es un error mecanografico al enviar el correo. He logrado, instalando otro disco como esclavo, que tambien tiene instalado Debian, pasar el fsck, con el siguiente comando: fsck -t /dev/hda1 Y dice que no puede abrir el disco, que parace haber un bloque defectuoso y me dice que lo intente con el e2fsck. Lo he intentado de la siguiente manera e2fsck -b 8193 /dev/hda1 tambien con e2fsck -b 16385 /dev/hda1 y con algunos bloques más (sumando siempre el doble) Y dice que no puede encontrar la extension ext2, literlamente dice: can`t fin ext2 filesystem on dev ide, bad superblock on /dev/hda1, or too many mounted filesystem'. La sesion tenia abierta, en el momento de ser cerrada, dos usuarios, uno de ellos con las X abiertas. Se cerró desde root, sin cerrar las X. Puede ser que venga el problema de ahí?. No puedo acceder al HD, ¿podria ser un problema de hardware?, simplemente que el disco haya petado. Lamento dar la tabarra con ello, pero es que llevo dos dias casi desesperado sin poder trabajar por tener no documentos que habia en ese disco. Gracias otra vez. Un saludo btd. Obtenha o seu email gratis na Comunidade Lusofona! Portugal em Linha - http://www.portugal-linha.pt
Sustituir gs
En linuxprinting.org hay un link a un ftp de donde te puedes bajar un ghostscript que incluye el driver stp con el que puedo hacer funcionar mi flamante impresora nueva. El problema es que para ponerlo tengo que quitar el gs que viene con Debian. Package: ghostview Depends: libpaperg, gs, [...] Package: pstotext Depends: gs, libc6 (= 2.1) Package: mgetty-fax Depends: [...], gs, perl5 Package: gv Depends: gs, [...] No puedo quitarlo. ¿Qué salidas me quedan? (los que vayan a decir Crea un paquete .deb con el nuevo gs que pasen al siguiente mensaje :^)). -- David Serrano [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Linux Registered User #87069 pgpcROK3aV4aF.pgp Description: PGP signature
RE: Problemas con Locales
Hola, otravez: No puedo cargar el paquete locales. Apt me dice que hay conflictos con la libc6 (tengo la 2.2.2-1). Se deinstalo cuando cargue Netscape. Estoy bloqueado con este tema, por que hay paquetes que no puedo instalar al depender de locales (poor ejemplo, no he podido instalar hoy gdm) Estoy clavado, asi cualquier ayuda me vendra muy bien.Gracias Oscar -Mensaje original- De: v1k1ng0 [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Enviado el: martes 10 de abril de 2001 1:57 Para: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org Asunto: Re: Problemas con Locales On Mon, Apr 09, 2001 at 10:57:37PM +0200, Oscar Martin wrote: Hola a todos, Se que en alguna ocasion se ha tratado este tema en la lista, pero no preste atencion porque entonces no me afectaba. El caso es que al instalar Netscape apt me advirtio de que habria conflicto con locales y lo desinstalo. Ahora aun puedo escribir n y acentos pero, por ejemplo, ls no los presenta en pantalla. He revisado el fichero etc/profile y parece que esta en orden. El comando locale parece que muestra todo bien. Sin embargo, regularmente, me sale un aviso de Perl diciendo que hay problema con mi configuracion de locales, y que me asegure de que esta soportada en mi sistema.Sin ir mas lejos me ha pasado hoy instalando gv. ?Hay solucion? Gracias. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null Hola, primero ke nada comprueba ke tienes en /etc/environment LANG=spanish. Asegurate tb ke tienes instalado los paketes para poder castellanizar la debian.Ahora vete a /etc/locale.gen. Editalo, con el vi, si usas otro no funcionara X))Bueno, bromas aparte, aki descomentas es_ES ISO-8859-1 y le pones # al ke este ya. Luego ejecuta locale-gen y ya no deberias tener problemas. Bueno, eso es todo. Hasta otra. Saludos... v1k1ng0 Orgullo Vikingo -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Sustituir gs
On Wed, 11 Apr 2001 22:54:30 +0200 Hue-Bond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: En linuxprinting.org hay un link a un ftp de donde te puedes bajar un ghostscript que incluye el driver stp con el que puedo hacer funcionar mi flamante impresora nueva. El problema es que para ponerlo tengo que quitar el gs que viene con Debian. Package: ghostview Depends: libpaperg, gs, [...] Package: pstotext Depends: gs, libc6 (= 2.1) Package: mgetty-fax Depends: [...], gs, perl5 Package: gv Depends: gs, [...] No puedo quitarlo. ¿Qué salidas me quedan? (los que vayan a decir Crea un paquete .deb con el nuevo gs que pasen al siguiente mensaje :^)). Puedes instalarlo en /usr/local/bin/. Puede que tengas que ajustar algún directório, pero normalmente, desde el shell, vas a ejecutar éste. -- Christoph Simon [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- ^X^C q quit :q ^C end x exit ZZ ^D ? help shit .
HP 694C endemoniada!!!
Hola, gente Llevo varios ratos tratando de configurar mi linda impresora HP DeskJet 694C que me temo que esta poseida. He probado en mi PC y en un portatil, no funciona en ninguno la simple orden: $ cat /etc/printcap /dev/lp0 Los sintomas cuando ejecuto esa orden (tanto como usuario como root) son: La impresora coge papel, se lo piensa un momento, parpadea primero el led verde (power) y luego se queda con el led superior parpadeando (quejandose de que no tiene papel). Entonces pulso el boton correspondiente al led (el superior) para indicarle que coga el papel), y coge el papel, hace como que imprime una linea y escupe la hoja. Otros comando que no resultan: $ lpr /etc/printcap $ pdq /etc/printcap (o como fuera para imprimir X) Ahora mismo tengo instalados lprng y magicfilter, he probado con el /etc/printcap para impresoras matriciales y con el generado por el magicfilter, incluso en el PC he intetado con PDQ, pero sigue sin dar resultado. Lo curioso es que en ruindous la impresora funciona, pero en Linux solamente lo consegui una vez (RedHat 5.2). Ya he visitado la weblinuxprinting.org y me he leido el Impresion-COMO. EL kernel que uso es el 2.4.2 con todo el soporte para impresion y puerto paralelo metido directamente en el kernel, sin modulos. La verdad, no se ya si sera cosa de la impresora o de mi querida Potato, pero estoy a punto de tirar la impresora a froi pro saco y comprarme una Lexmark (que dice su fabricante que tiene drivers para Linux). En fin, a ver si tengo suerte y algun alma caritativa me da una soluciona a este enigma. -- ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Miguel Ángel Vilela ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ A.k.a. miguev at IRC-Hispano and Gulic. Santa Cruz de Tenerife, Islas Canarias (Spain). Fingerprint: AB5C C6D7 FC75 0AE9 CE7A 23AD D05B C23A 7E32 B773 Clave GPG en http://search.keyserver.net/ || Buscar: miguev Web: http://usuarios.tripod.es/miguev/ (en desarrollo) ICQ: #72624205 || Nick: miguev GULIC - Grupo de Usuarios de LInux de Canarias - http://www.gulic.org Powered by Linux 2.4.2 on a Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 Potato Linux Registered User #184518 (http://counter.li.org) Linux Registered Box #81674 (IBM Aptiva 2175-352, P120, 32RAM, 1GB) Linux Driver Petition #73209 (http://www.libralinux.com/petition.spanish.html) /// (@ @) -oOO(_)OOo--- ¿Qué se quiere decir cuando se habla de sacrificios a los ídolos? --preguntaron a rabí Bunam--. ¡Es impensable que un ser humano pueda ofrecer hoy día un sacrificio a un ídolo! Y el respondió: - Pues os daré un ejemplo. Imaginad a un hombre justo y piadoso, sentado a la mesa con otros convidados. De buena gana comería un poco más, pero la idea de desacreditarse ante los ojos de los demás lo reprime. Ha hecho un sacrificio a un ídolo. Cuento hasidim. - pgptzMBCGpgt6.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: SOLICITO: XF86Config de Tarjetas S3 con Xfree 4
El Dom 08 Abr 2001 12:43, Francisco Vila Doncel escribió: Ruego encarecidamente a cualquiera que use una tarjeta con chip S3 que me envíe su archivo de configuración de XFree versión 4, a ver si consigo al menos por comparación obtener una resolución decente en mi pantalla. Os lo agradeceré mucho. Un saludo a todos, Este es el mío. Aunque las frecuencias de refresco del monitor son bastante conservadoras, consulta el manual de tu monitor por si acaso. Lo tengo para una resolución de 1024x768, profundidad de color 24. Saludos. --- Section ServerLayout Identifier XFree86 Configured Screen 0 Screen0 0 0 InputDeviceMouse0 CorePointer InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard EndSection Section Files RgbPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb ModulePath /usr/X11R6/lib/modules FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/ FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/ FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/ FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/ FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/ FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/ EndSection Section Module Load GLcore Load dbe Load dri Load extmod Load glx Load pex5 Load record Load xie EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Keyboard0 Driver keyboard Option Protocol Standard Option XkbRules xfree86 Option XkbModel pc105 Option XkbLayout es EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Mouse0 Driver mouse Option Protocol microsoft Option Device /dev/ttyS0 EndSection Section Monitor Identifier Monitor0 VendorName AFC ModelName10 HorizSync31.5-64.3 VertRefresh 50-90 EndSection Section Device ### Available Driver options are:- #Option slow_edodram #Option slow_dram #Option fast_dram #Option fpm_vram #Option pci_burst #Option fifo_conservative #Option fifo_moderate #Option fifo_aggressive #Option pci_retry #Option NoAccel #Option early_ras_precharge #Option late_ras_precharge #Option lcd_center #Option set_lcdclk #Option set_mclk #Option set_refclk #Option show_cache #Option HWCursor #Option SWCursor #Option ShadowFB #Option Rotate #Option UseFB Identifier Card0 Driver s3virge VendorName S3 BoardName ViRGE/GX2 BusID PCI:0:14:0 EndSection Section Screen Identifier Screen0 Device Card0 MonitorMonitor0 DefaultColorDepth 24 SubSection Display Depth 1 EndSubSection SubSection Display Depth 4 EndSubSection SubSection Display Depth 8 EndSubSection SubSection Display Depth 15 EndSubSection SubSection Display Depth 16 EndSubSection SubSection Display Depth 24 Modes 1024x768 EndSubSection EndSection Section DRI EndSection
Re: Re[4]: fetchmail
On Wed, Apr, 11, 2001 at 17:16:36 +0200, Josep wrote: Ahora a pelearme con procmail y mutt X-). Es la parte más interesante. ;-) Arranco fetchmail normalmente con crond, pero con macro index G !fetchmail -v\r macro browser G !fetchmail -v\r lo puedes hacer también manualmente desde mutt con G. (Toda mi config de fetchmail se encuentra en .fetchmailrc) BTW, el estandard de marcar un reply es Re: y no Re[xy]:. Espero que se mejore con mutt. ;-) -- bli * Debian = GNU/Linux XP *
Re: [OT] IP sobrando
Sei que é Off-Topic (pra isso o [OT] no Subject), mas algum de vocês teria um (apenas um) IPzinho sobrando que pudesse me 'dar' (ou seja, deixar eu usar)? Quem tiver IP sobrando, de qualquer forma, e tiver a fim de saber o que eu tô afim de fazer, me manda uma mensagem (só pra mim). O resto, favor ignorar o meu pedido de esmola. :P Posso pensar no caso. Mas é 100 reaus mais o dinheiro do busão ;-) -- Hélio Alexandre Lopes Loureiro e-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel.: + 55 11 6224-1795 Division Multiservice Networks - First Deployments Public Key = http://cipsga.procempa.com.br/oks/pt_BR/ (pgp-i 2.6.3) http://www.engnux.ufsc.br/helio/identity.pub.txt /\ \ / Campanha da fita ASCII - Contra mail HTML X ASCII ribbon campaign - Against HTML mail / \
Linux na Folha de SP
Saiu hoje uma reportagem no caderno de informática sobre alternativas ao Windows. Claro que apareceu o Linux. Não é lá uma reportagem técnica, mas apresenta uma visão bem clara aos mais leigos. Dispenso flames e comentários vazios sobre a reportagem. -- []'s Hélio Alexandre Lopes Loureiro e-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel.: + 55 11 6224-1795 Division Multiservice Networks - First Deployments Public Key = http://cipsga.procempa.com.br/oks/pt_BR/ (pgp-i 2.6.3) http://www.engnux.ufsc.br/helio/identity.pub.txt /\ \ / Campanha da fita ASCII - Contra mail HTML X ASCII ribbon campaign - Against HTML mail / \
RE: Linux na Folha de SP e no A Tarde
Saiu hoje uma reportagem no caderno de informática sobre alternativas ao Windows. Claro que apareceu o Linux. Não é lá uma reportagem técnica, mas apresenta uma visão bem clara aos mais leigos. Essa mesma reportagem saiu tambem no Jornal A Tarde (SSA/BA). O titulo era Micro pode passar sem Windows. Para quem nao viu, a reportagem pode ser encontrada em: http://www.atarde.com.br/materia.php3?mes=04ano=2001id_subcanal=14id_mate ria=1512 http://www.uol.com.br/folha/informatica/ult124u5369.shl O texto eh exatamente o mesmo nos dois jornais. Escolha o seu predileto :P~ Dispenso flames e comentários vazios sobre a reportagem. Idem. Mas na folha ja sairam outras que nao dispensaria tanto, como http://www.uol.com.br/folha/informatica/ult124u5375.shl E depois alguem me explica porque na Folha eles gostam tanto de aspas. -- Pazu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Linux na Folha de SP
Muito bem comentado: matéria leve, mas clara, para todo tipo de leigos. Gostaria de falar de outra matéria, publicada na revista Amanhã, ou http://www.amanha.com.br A revista A Manhã é bem mais pretensiosa, uma espécie de edição brasileira da famosa Wired americana, e se apresenta como revista de economia e negócios. Sua edição de março/2001 (ainda nas bancas), publicou matéria de capa: Software Livre, Ameaça ao Windows. Esperava algo no estilo Folha Informatica, mas para meu pouco conhecimento do Linux, achei muito bem escrita e informativa. Explicam que o Linux deve ser chamado GNU/Linux, e mantém isso ao longo do texto -- coisa que não vejo nem nos emails daqui. ;-) Informam que a ameaça é mais em termos de servidores que desktops. Etc. Acho que é uma matéria decente -- dentro do que conheço e do que pude ler. Melhor que a de revistas como InfoExame, cuja parcialidade provocou fúria e um thread monstruoso neste grupo. Se tiver que recomendar para alguém, pode indicar... []s Hilton --- Hélio Alexandre Lopes Loureiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Saiu hoje uma reportagem no caderno de informática sobre alternativas ao Windows. Claro que apareceu o Linux. Não é lá uma reportagem técnica, mas apresenta uma visão bem clara aos mais leigos. Dispenso flames e comentários vazios sobre a reportagem. -- []'s Hélio Alexandre Lopes Loureiro e-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel.: + 55 11 6224-1795 Division Multiservice Networks - First Deployments Public Key = http://cipsga.procempa.com.br/oks/pt_BR/ (pgp-i 2.6.3) http://www.engnux.ufsc.br/helio/identity.pub.txt /\ \ / Campanha da fita ASCII - Contra mail HTML X ASCII ribbon campaign - Against HTML mail / \ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: Linux na Folha de SP
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11-Apr-2001 Hilton Fernandes wrote: Explicam que o Linux deve ser chamado GNU/Linux, e mantém isso ao longo do texto -- coisa que não vejo nem nos emails daqui. ;-) É uma questão de costume. Além disso, nem tudo em meu sistema é GNU, então em vez de falar GNU/BSD/Artistic/.../Linux, eu falo Linux, em referência ao kernel. - -- carlos laviola - icq #55799523 $ chown us:us /your_base -R chown: what you say!! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE61Nm3ZAYCJzUW03IRAhzmAJ45W66xJ3ergSEPZCw3KdQ7U9IhrQCdFcxX aCBsZ/qWj4RU6HwouJfwB6U= =yBTs -END PGP SIGNATURE-
GNU (Re: Linux na Folha de SP)
On Wed, Apr 11, 2001 at 07:24:55PM -0300, Carlos Laviola wrote: ? uma quest?o de costume. Al?m disso, nem tudo em meu sistema ? GNU, ent?o em vez de falar GNU/BSD/Artistic/.../Linux, eu falo Linux, em refer?ncia ao kernel. Essa história de novo? :-/ O nome GNU não se refere ao fato de todos os componentes terem sido desenvolvidos pelo projeto GNU. O objetivo do projeto era criar um sistema inteiro que fosse livre, mesmo que pra isso alguns componentes fossem adaptados de outras fontes. Esse sistema que nós usamos hoje - principalmente o Debian - é praticamente o sistema que vinha sendo reunido e integrado pelo projeto GNU há anos, powered by o kernel Linux. Por isso que muita gente acha injusto chamar de Linux e não de GNU. Eu pessoalmente gosto de dizer que uso GNU, ponto. Nem GNU/Linux. Senão, quem usa Windows ME teria que dizer que usa DOS, se o critério for o kernel ;-) []s, |alo + -- I say a prayer now our love's departed That you'll come back to stay Bring back the perfect day http://www.laranja.org/mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp key: http://www.laranja.org/pessoal/pgp Brazil of Darkness (RPG) --- http://www.BroDar.org/
Re: water, water everywhere, but not a drop to drink.
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]it was written: Anyway... Does anybody know what steps I need to do in order make ssh work so I can log in remotely? I wanted to try to use Tera Term Pro with the SSH extenstion to log onto my Linux machine from a Windows machine on the local network. Right now if I type: ssh -v -l root rocky I get this error message about authenticity not being established. I made a 'indentification' and an authorization file in the ~/.ssh directory along with the keys created by ssh-keygen, but I really don't know what I'm doing. I just tried to do what it said in the HOWTO link above, and nothing seems to work. Hmm, maybe when you installed ssh you didn't opt to run the ssh server also. This is easily remidied, however, if this is indeed the case, with most modern Debian installations: dpkg-reconfigure ssh Then anser yes (generally by using the left and right arrows to select yes, then hitting enter) when it asks you if you'd like to run the sshd server. As for running telnet, telnet is fine as long as you know your network is private and secure (eg a private subnet lan of which you are the only user) .. otherwise your passwords are exposed in cleartext to anyone who cares to listen. hth as always, nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://www.fargus.net/nick Developer - Systems Engineer - Mad System Guru - MOO Sales he picks up scraps of information/he's adept at adaptation because for strangers and arrangers/constant change is here to stay
ssh problems
hey guys im getting these errors when running ssh i was wondering if anyone could help me debug1: sshd version OpenSSH_2.5.2p2debug1: load_private_key_autodetect: type 0 RSA1Disabling protocol version 2. Could not load host keydebug1: Bind to port 22 on 0.0.0.0. all keygens are installed as well as sshdand rsa and dsa im stumped as to what it could be any help would be greatly appreciated Tomaas Ortega"Hey, does anybody else hear that giant sucking sound? That's my will to live" www.dematerialised.com - coming soonwww.dematerialised.com/zeitgeist/
Re: water, water everywhere, but not a drop to drink.
On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 11:37:32PM -0400, Kevin Stokes wrote: Once again I find myself helpless. As unreliable and as frustrating as Windows is, in Linux it seems like you can't do anything without asking for help. I wanted to remotely login from a Windows machine to my linux machine. So I wanted to install telnetd. Everyone said, 'shame on you, telnet is simply awful. You should be chained to the wall and whipped for wanting to use telnet! Use 'ssh' instead.' snip I would encourage you to give putty a try. It is an ssh client that will fit on a floppy. Easy to use. You can nab it at - http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/download.html grab putty.exe Check and make sure you have sshd running on your Debian machine - deb:~$ ps ax | grep sshd 260 ?S 0:08 /usr/sbin/sshd If it is you should be able to just fire up putty and point it to your Debian machine. And he drowns. You start searching archives and HOWTO's. Each thing you find leads you in 10 different directions; 10 more places to look for answers. Only each of those ten leads simply bring up 10 more questions and strange things you never heard of.It seems like there is a infinite sea of little config files, and nested /etc directories, and devices and weird little two-letter commands.And for each of these, there are man pages with 20 options, and completely obscure text which makes no sense unless you already know everything. snip You can tell this from the tone of most newbie posts. They are embarrassed to have to ask these questions. They (read me) have a tough time asking a question which uses terminology correctly, or even coming up a question that makes sense. snip Linux is hard to learn. There is no getting around it. There is no reason for anyone to be embarrassed to ask questions here, if they have made a genuine effort to solve the problem on their own first. Don't expect to get everything working over-night. Just keep plugging away, one thing at a time and you will get there. Relax and have some fun solving problems:) kent -- From seeing and seeing the seeing has become so exhausted First line of The Panther - R. M. Rilke
Re: Upgrading to Progeny ?
From what i know, apt-get will install the latest version that is available to it, so it should downgrade to the newer packages in its list... and if it doesnt download the older upgrade software it shouldnt matter... - overid3 =) On Tuesday 10 April 2001 12:18, Hall Stevenson wrote: On Tuesday 10 April 2001 14:27, Hall Stevenson wrote: I'm currently running Debian sid or unstable and the idea of upgrading (is it really upgrading ?? :-)) to Progeny has crossed my mind. Is doing so feasible ?? Can apt-get handle the differences in package version numbers, if there are differences ?? I heard that Progeny is based on Woody, so this would be a downgrade. And I recently read on this list that apt cannot downgrade a whole distribution. (Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.) Looks like you best start with fresh formmatted harddrive to install Progeny. If you do it, please tell me and perhaps the list what you think about it, when you're done. If what you think is true, you (and others) will have to find out from someone else. ;-) I'm not interested in downgrading, if that's what the case would be. I was hoping that Progeny may have a somewhat parallel branch to Debian's sid. Actually, I'm sure they do or do they only use stable packages and do whatever modifications they do from those ?? I'll check around their website some more... Thanks Hall
Installation Problem (Debian Linux)
Dear Sir, I have a PC with 20GB Hard disk, 810 Intel Chipset Motherboard and P-III 700 CPU. In my hard disk, there are two partition, First partition (i.e Pri. Dos portion) contain Windows'98 OS. I have already installed Debian Linux in my Second Partition, after installation I am facing various problem, please solve my proble. Problem 1: After Installation ( your mentioned procedure which was avalable in your CD) , I found that all the files are not installed. Problem 2: Xwindow is not working.There I found a error message. Thanking you Sujit email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Chequemail.com - a free web based e-mail service that also pays!!! http://www.chequemail.com
startx not working
Running Debian unstable. Just did an upgrade and now startx does not work. Can start xdm, but will now go further then the login screen. This happen to anyone else, and what is causing it? -- Kevin C. Smith There are three kinds of men. The one that learns [EMAIL PROTECTED]by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. -- Will Rogers
Re: water, water everywhere, but not a drop to drink.
%% Known Human Nick Rusnov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: khnr As for running telnet, telnet is fine as long as you know your khnr network is private and secure (eg a private subnet lan of which khnr you are the only user) .. otherwise your passwords are exposed khnr in cleartext to anyone who cares to listen. On my local network I have installed and run telnet-ssl and telnetd-ssl. This is normal telnet authentication, but your password, etc. is sent encrypted instead of in the clear. That's enough paranoia for me, since I have a very strict firewall guarding it. Check it out (apt-get install telnet-ssl telnetd-ssl). -- --- Paul D. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]HASMAT--HA Software Methods Tools Please remain calm...I may be mad, but I am a professional. --Mad Scientist --- These are my opinions---Nortel Networks takes no responsibility for them.
Re: combo GUI/text mail client
You can use fetchmail to get mail from server (fetchmail-ssl for ssl pop3), fetchmail copy mail in local mailbox. and after you can read your mail with : - sylpheed for exemple (GTK interface) - mutt in text mode You must configure the two mail client for use the same directory. Here's what I'd like to have: a mail client that I can access via a nice, flashy GUI when I'm sitting at my desk, or via a simple text-mode interface when I'm connecting remotely. Actually, it's my wife I'm primarily thinking about. She uses our computer at home (Debian, natch) to read/send mail using Netscape. She also occasionally connects from her parents' house, or from work using ssh and getting a simple shell (text) interface. Right now, she uses pine for this, but this sucks because: * netscape slurps up all read mail into its own 'nsmail' directory, so she can only read new mail * netscape and pine don't (can't?) share addressbooks, so they either get out of sync, or require more attention than one would like to offer them I have been looking for such a beast, without any luck. Gnus works pretty well for me, but as I'm trying to *stay* married, I'm unwilling to inflict Gnus on my wife at this time. Any ideas? -- joe -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Julien LEMOINE EPITA - Promo 2004 Debian/GNU Addict -
Re: water, water everywhere, but not a drop to drink.
First tip: when posting regarding a problem, start a new thread, don't reply to an existing one. In threaded mailreaders (I use mutt) your posts shows up well into an existing but unrelated thread. Though at least you're attached to a related SSH problem here on Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 11:37:32PM -0400, Kevin Stokes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Once again I find myself helpless. As unreliable and as frustrating as Windows is, in Linux it seems like you can't do anything without asking for help. Yep. I wanted to remotely login from a Windows machine to my linux machine. So I wanted to install telnetd. Everyone said, 'shame on you, telnet is simply awful. You should be chained to the wall and whipped for wanting to use telnet! Use 'ssh' instead.' Yep. Well, ssh got installed along with everything when I installed linux. So I read the man pages for ssh. As is typical of the linux world, it is about 15 pages of utter gobbedly-gook. To be fair, man pages are not meant for newbies to learn linux from scratch. Well, you can always try: $ ssh Which produces, as first line of output: Usage: ssh [options] host [command] ...along with 32 lines of brief help. So I search until I find a HOWTO on ssh. This would be nice if it worked, but of course it doesn't. Everything seems to be different. Their suggestions fail. The paths are different. http://www.linuxdoc.org/LDP/LG/issue61/dellomodarme.html Now I can explain the title of my post. Linux is amazing. There is source code, and binaries and gigabytes of documentation about everything under the sun. All free! But it all seems nearly useless. Take a newbie, and drop him into the sea of freebies. It's not for everyone. Particularly not in pure form. If you like it, great. If you don't -- there's Legacy MS Windows, there's Mac, there's now MacOS X, which is housetrained Unix, there's BeOS, there's the *BSDs, but they're pretty similar to GNU/Linux (though some would argue the man pages are better, though if you really want tender loving personal attention, do something to catch Theo's eye). Most of us are willing to help out, but don't waste our time. You're a newbie, you're having problems. I've been using GNU/Linux for four years, Unix for fourteen, and I'm having my own problems -- snort, glimpse, DNS, leafnode GNU/Linux is a grown-up's operating system. You're expected to know your way around, or be able to figure it out. If you can't or won't, we're fine by that. But don't blame it on GNU/Linux or us. It works, it's free. There's some knowledge to learn. Stop whinging. Shut the computer down and listen to Secret Journey by Sting. There is enlightenment, grasshopper. The enlightement is realizing there is no enlightentment. The keys to mailing list support: - Identify your problem. As best as possible. The program, the error output, and the objective are good starts. If you're not sure, say so. Don't whinge. - Know your help tools. The man pages. Apropos. The HOWTOs. grep. Google. A few good books (poke around my webpage, they're listed). - Pick an appropriate subject (program, problem, error output if possible). I don't need to know you're a newbie (though you can say same in body), and no, it's not urgent for me. Stop whinging! - Provide all pertinant information, while keeping your posts short and sweet and to the point. Quit it with the whinging already. I've got a lot of free time on my hands right now, and I'm still reduced to rolling through debian-user looking for unanswered posts with concise titles that haven't been extensively responded to, which I might provide some insight on. YouYou're wasting my time. But there's a broader lesson to be learned, some I'm typing this into the list archives, Google, and possibly a few personal archives. An no fscking whinging! - Tattoo this to your chest. If you can't read in mirror, have it reversed so you can read it every morning. How to Report Bugs Effectively Simon Tatham http://www-mice.cs.ucl.ac.uk/multimedia/software/documentation/ReportingBugs.html (Note: I originally saw this posted at Freshmeat, bylined by jeff covey jeff.covey at pobox.com on February 26th 2000, but it's disappeared from there, and is currently credited to Simon Tatham. The Freshmeat link was: http://freshmeat.net/news/2000/02/26/951627540.html) And he drowns. You start searching archives and HOWTO's. Each thing you find leads you in 10 different directions; 10 more places to look for answers. At this point, stop and ask for guidance. Local support, or a small group, is helpful for those small little problems. Larger lists may have expertise, but also often much noise. ... Take the last time I needed help. A generous and helpful person told me to do the
gtcd/sound problems
Hello, When trying to play gtcd I get error playing cd...but it's an audio cd (an introduction to classical music)..what is wrong here? Also, when I try to play login.wav (gnome's file) no sound is coming out...I have unmuted the mixer via gamix, mixer and pcm oss drivers are loaded together with the soundcard..speaker is connected properly...what else could I have missed? Hoping for some kind of info Sincerely, Josep ps pls. cc me when replying to this message...thanks
Re: startx not working
on Wed, Apr 11, 2001 at 12:18:17AM -0500, Kevin C. Smith ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Running Debian unstable. Just did an upgrade and now startx does not work. Can start xdm, but will now go further then the login screen. This happen to anyone else, and what is causing it? More data required. What command(s) are you running? What output are you seeing? What do your logfiles show? Cheers. -- Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.comhttp://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What part of Gestalt don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/ http://www.kuro5hin.org pgpV2DFn4eEBk.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: combo GUI/text mail client
On 10 Apr 2001, Joseph Dane wrote: Here's what I'd like to have: a mail client that I can access via a nice, flashy GUI when I'm sitting at my desk, or via a simple text-mode interface when I'm connecting remotely. *snip* I'm slightly hesitant to suggest it, since it's not really Free Software but Pine might be what you're looking for. Pine is fairly user-friendly, and you can find a LGPL program patch called xP which provides a GUI for Pine. It's in development, so it may not be the most stable proggy, but it's a start. I have been looking for such a beast, without any luck. Gnus works pretty well for me, but as I'm trying to *stay* married, I'm unwilling to inflict Gnus on my wife at this time. Probably a very good idea... :) Take care, Zonker -- Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 43599611 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Liberty's too precious a thing to be buried in books... Men should hold it up in front of them every single day of their lives and say: I'm free to think and to speak. My ancestors couldn't, I can, and my children will. Boys ought to grow up remembering that. Mr. Smith Goes to Washington -- James Stewart
Re: startx not working
Kevin C. Smith posts:
now startx does not work. Can start xdm, but will now
go further then the login screen. This happen to
anyone else, and what is causing it?
It is an issue with the pam modules/library. Happened
after you specifically updated your 'libpam0g' package.
The drm module permissions are creating this issue here,
at my end.
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DNS question
Hello!! I need to make up a dominium, but with only a server. I will like to use some DNS server not on my site, ¿can somebody help me? Of course I have static IP. And if I have to put DNS server on my machine, what can I use to make it? Thank you for all!!! Angel
HELP - CS423x sound config and Progeny Debian 1.0
HI all, Have a problem with sound cards containing these chips. Here's my PC setup: DELL Optiplex GX1 Pentium III-500 192Mb RAM 15GB Hard Disk (Win98, 2 partitions) 4GB Hard Disk (Linux) Sound Chip (Crystal-423x, as reported by Progeny Install), on motherboard Here's my LInux setup --- 1. Installed Potato 2. Installed Helix Gnome (now Ximian) 3. Installed Progeny 1.0 Kernel: 2.2.18pre15 Boot: using GRUB Modules Installed: AC97 codec OSS Sound Support OSS SoundCore Yamaha (or something) MPU-401 support Sound-related software installed: - Alsaconf 0.4.x (latest from apt-get) sndconfig Sound card settings as reported by Win 98 (Device Manager) - Cyrstal Codec: I/O 0x534 - 0x537 IRQ 5 DMA 1 DMA 0 I/O 0x388 - 0x38B Crystal System Control registers: I/O 0xF00 - 0xF07 MPU-401: I/O 0x330 - 0x331 Problem Description 2.2.18pre15 kernel already had a cs4232.o to load but failed with device or resource busy error. 1. tried modprobe cs4232 io=0x534 irq=5 dma=1 dma=0 2. response Device or resource busy; insmod failed 3. tried alsaconf (tried cs4232 and cs423x drivers) with above settings + MPU-401 irq=5, pnp io=0x120, DMA size (4k and 64k) 4. response alsa driver was not loaded 5. tried sndconfig 6. response cannot detect card, specify manually 7. specify in sndconfig io=0x534 irq=5 dma=1 dma=0 mpu=0x330 mpu irq=5 8. response sound related drivers already in /etc/modules.conf; delete appropriate files in /etc/modutils and re-run update modutils Any help here to get it started (either ALSA or sndconfig or modprobe I'm not fussy :-) would be greatly appreciated. I tried google and read many suggestions (all of them reflected by my attempts above), but to no avail. I think Debian's great for all other software installations, but sound support on debian is not as automated as I would have liked it to be. Thanks for your attention and time. Best regards Carl Tan.
ISDN and modem dial-in ... stuck
Hi. Anyone managed to get ISDN dial-in and modem dial-in going on the same box ? I've got the ISDN dial-in working fine (synchronous PPP using 'ipppd'), but when I try and dial-in using a modem via 'mgetty' and 'pppd' I can't get a link. The system logs shows that 'ipppd' is mistakenly reporting an incoming ISDN call :-(. If I shutdown the ISDN subsystem then the modem dial-in works. I've tried using 'ipppd' instead of 'pppd' for the modem but that doesn't work either. This is with a stock 2.2.19 kernel, all the other packages are from Debian 2.2r2. TIA, P.
Cannot login to server running RH6.2
Guys, I know that this list does not deal with Red Hat Linux issues, but then this is the most helpful list that I can think of that has good support. The discussion list on redhat.com sux. Typically I use Debian on my system. Since this is my company's server... Ok, here's the problem : I cannot seem to login to my server. When I do a telnet session, an error message appears : telnetd: /bin/login: No such file or directory; and immediately it terminates the session. I FTPed into the server and checked the /bin dir. and most certainly that file is missing. I tried to even login on the console itself, and it goes fine for the login but when I press enter, it returns to the login prompt. I cannot login at all to my system. How do I install back that login file in to the /bin directory. Where can I get that file from. The only way that I can login to the system is : linux single, and that method doesn't start the net connection, and I do not have my RH Linux 6.2 CDs with me. What happened to my system. This just popped up out of nowhere. Quite a few others have the similar problems on RH discussion list, but so far there is no answer to the questions. Is this a bug on RH Linux ? or is this a virus, or hacker or what ? Does this thing happen to Debian ? As far as I have used my Debian system, it hasn't given me any problems. Only thing slacking is a good administration tool for it like smitty. :-) Thanks in advance. Cheers, Saran.
Re: sources.list
On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 05:10:15PM -0500, Geordie Birch wrote: not all packages missing from woody are extinct though - some are in stable and unstable, but don't meet the criteria for inclusion in testing. if you really needed such a (non-extinct) package and did not want to install debs from unstable then you would need to get it from the stable stable (sorry!). ooh, that one smarts! :) -- americans should never read anything so subversive as what's at http://www.salon.com/people/col/pagl/2001/03/21/spring/index1.html [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sourceforge.net/projects/newbiedoc -- we need your brain! http://www.dontUthink.com/ -- your brain needs us!
Re: water, water everywhere, but not a drop to drink.
%% Kevin Stokes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ks I wanted to remotely login from a Windows machine to my linux ks machine. So I wanted to install telnetd. Everyone said, 'shame ks on you, telnet is simply awful. You should be chained to the wall ks and whipped for wanting to use telnet! Use 'ssh' instead.' As with all of the 'Net, don't believe everything you read. You should understand the security issues involved with telnet. Your password will be sent in cleartext over the network between your system and the remote system. Anyone capable of intercepting that network traffic will be able to steal your password, then log in to the target system (and any other systems where you use the same password). If you understand these risks and you're OK with them, telnet is fine. In general, though, it's better to avoid insecure protocols like telnet: get into the habit now to avoid trouble later. Remember that you must have the telnet _server_ installed on Linux if you want to log into the Linux box from another system; make sure the telnetd package is installed (apt-get install telnetd). ks Well, ssh got installed along with everything when I installed ks linux. So I read the man pages for ssh. As is typical of the ks linux world, it is about 15 pages of utter gobbedly-gook. To be ks fair, man pages are not meant for newbies to learn linux from ks scratch. Indeed. And, things like ssh are more complex than most commands. Note there are a large number of web sites, etc. devoted to helping Linux newbies. There are also books, both hardcopy and online versions. There's lots of resources, but most of it is on the net, not on your local box. ks So I search until I find a HOWTO on ssh. This would be nice if it ks worked, but of course it doesn't. Everything seems to be ks different. Their suggestions fail. The paths are different. ks http://www.linuxdoc.org/LDP/LG/issue61/dellomodarme.html This describes obtaining and installing ssh from scratch. It's also talking about a completely different version of SSH; this is the commercial SSH; Debian uses the free version created by the OpenBSD folks, OpenSSH. In short, this HOWTO does not really apply well to Debian, or even most other Linux distros. Why someone thinks it's a good idea to explain how to install the proprietary version of SSH on a Linux box in January, 2001 is beyond me. Ask the Linux Gazette what the heck they're thinking. In short, ignore this HOWTO. See below. As for directories; here's something to know: When Debian packages are built to install on your system, they install in the system directories (/usr/bin, etc.) When you build packages yourself, they typically install in directories specifically set aside for users to install software, under /usr/local. This is A Good Thing, since it allows you to install your own copies of software in a clean way, without disrupting the system versions. ks There is something that Linux needs much more than anything else, ks and that is a decent help system. We need something about 50 ks times larger than the man pages. Something which always has an ks extensive chapter in simple layman language, and lots of examples ks with clear steps with *explanations*. And also a way to get to ks the more typically man page type stuff for the people who need ks that. ks Who is willing to create such a thing? Not me, I'm not a Linux ks devotee. That's the problem. The people writing the program write documentation that makes sense to them and to other people using it. This documentation is naturally technical in nature. There's a certain critical mass of knowledge you need to obtain before you can really start understanding the documentation. What's needed is for people like _you_ to help write super newbie docs. We can't do it. We're not newbies. We don't know what newbies need. ks But the bottom line is that the Windows Help system totally blows ks away all the confusing HOWTO's, man pages, or archived email ks searches. See, here's a prime example of the differences in our perspective. The Windows Help system _sucks_ huge boulders through coffee stirrers. It totally blows chunks. It has _NOTHING_ in it that I could ever possibly need to be told. I ask it how to do something and it never tells me, it just gives me some generic mush, if anything, that's totally obvious in the first place. I wanted to know how to remap my CAPSLOCK key to be a control key. It didn't know. I wanted to know how to keep my CDROM drive from spinning down so quickly. It didn't know. I wanted to find out a hundred things like that. Windows Help was utterly and completely useless. Sure, it was great if I wanted to know that C-x was the keyboard shortcut for Cut and C-v was the shortcut for Paste. Whoop-de-doo. :) ks Anyway... Does anybody know what steps I need to do in order make ks ssh work so I can log in remotely? I wanted to try to use
Re: Cannot login to server running RH6.2
Guys, I know that this list does not deal with Red Hat Linux issues, but then this is the most helpful list that I can think of that has good support. The discussion list on redhat.com sux. Typically I use Debian on my system. Since this is my company's server... Ok, here's the problem : I cannot seem to login to my server. When I do a telnet session, an error message appears : telnetd: /bin/login: No such file or directory; and immediately it terminates the session. I FTPed into the server and checked the /bin dir. and most certainly that file is missing. I tried to even login on the console itself, and it goes fine for the login but when I press enter, it returns to the login prompt. I cannot login at all to my system. How do I install back that login file in to the /bin directory. Where can I get that file from. The only way that I can login to the system is : linux single, and that method doesn't start the net connection, and I do not have my RH Linux 6.2 CDs with me. What happened to my system. This just popped up out of nowhere. Quite a few others have the similar problems on RH discussion list, but so far there is no answer to the questions. Is this a bug on RH Linux ? or is this a virus, or hacker or what ? Does this thing happen to Debian ? As far as I have used my Debian system, it hasn't given me any problems. Only thing slacking is a good administration tool for it like smitty. :-) Thanks in advance. Cheers, Saran. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] One way of fixing the problem would be to ftp into your box while in multiuser mode, and copy the binary on to the machine that way (just get a copy of /bin/login from another linux machine - preferably another RH6.2 machine). Then, boot up in single user mode and move it into the /bin directory. As to how it happened... I don't have much to suggest except that it's possible that your machine was cracked into - be very suspicious of the machine until you confirm that this hasn't happened. Look through the logs for anything suspicious, compare the version of system binaries such as 'ps' and 'ls' against known-good copies from an equivalent system, and watch for unusual network traffic. This may be a good excuse to rebuild the machine as a Debian box... :) - Kevin.
Re: combo GUI/text mail client
On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 04:58:46PM -1000, Joseph Dane wrote: Here's what I'd like to have: a mail client that I can access via a nice, flashy GUI when I'm sitting at my desk, or via a simple text-mode interface when I'm connecting remotely. Actually, it's my wife I'm primarily thinking about. She uses our computer at home (Debian, natch) to read/send mail using Netscape. She also occasionally connects from her parents' house, or from work using ssh and getting a simple shell (text) interface. Right now, she uses pine for this, but this sucks because: * netscape slurps up all read mail into its own 'nsmail' directory, so she can only read new mail Kmail keeps its mail standard mboxes in ~/Mail, which is where mutt saves its mboxes too. kmail can be tought to look for new mail in /var/mail/$USER though it insists on `downloading' it to ~/Mail/inbox so a mutt + Kmail might make a fairly cooperative pair. * netscape and pine don't (can't?) share addressbooks, so they either get out of sync, or require more attention than one would like to offer them im not sure about this, mutt uses a very simple text based format for mail aliases (address book) i have no idea what kmail uses. I have been looking for such a beast, without any luck. Gnus works pretty well for me, but as I'm trying to *stay* married, I'm unwilling to inflict Gnus on my wife at this time. heh ;-) have her try mutt, maybe she will like it enough to just ditch the silly GUI MUAs ;-) -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ pgpHn8GVKXMCz.pgp Description: PGP signature
my network device
Hello I've got an compaq 10/100 TX UTP Controller fon a Compaq Proliant 800. I want to install it and I don't know how ? The dmesg | grep eth0 doesnt't print nothing. Thanks for your help
Re: auto add 127.0.0.0?
On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 10:43:16PM +0100, Barbara and Rory Campbell-Lange wrote: Will lots of help from this list I have configured the lo and eth0 interfaces to load at system startup by correctly setting these up in the etc/network/interfaces file. How do I set up the general loopback network address 127.0.0.0? at the moment I am using the keyin route add -net 127.0.0.0 netmask 255.0.0.0 lo can I put this in etc/network/interfaces? or will the normally defined lo iface clash with this information? note: this may be irrelevant, but it shouldn't reformat your hard drive, if you're lucky. (are you feeling lucky?) one thing i recommend to just about anybody who breathes on this list is apt-get install ipmasq which will create some firewall rules and routing defaults based on your network setup, as defined in /etc/network/interfaces. it's not as secure as it could be, i hear, but it's a great starting point. here's my config, if it helps: # /etc/network/interfaces -- configuration file for ifup(8), ifdown(8) # loopback gizmo iface lo inet loopback # local intRAnet iface eth0 inet static address 192.168.1.1 netmask 255.255.0.0 network 192.168.1.0 broadcast 192.168.1.255 # connecting to the rest of the planet iface eth1 inet static address 208.33.90.85 netmask 255.255.255.0 network 208.33.90.0 broadcast 208.33.90.255 # gateway to the world == the cablemodem: gateway 208.33.90.84 all other computers on my intRAnet point to 192.168.1.1 as their default/gateway/router. and don't forget to do /etc/init.d/networking restart after munging anything in /etc/network/interfaces (i'm using potato, that's how it works for me). -- americans should never read anything so subversive as what's at http://www.salon.com/people/col/pagl/2001/03/21/spring/index1.html [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sourceforge.net/projects/newbiedoc -- we need your brain! http://www.dontUthink.com/ -- your brain needs us!
Re: 8-bit characters
On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 06:33:04PM -0400, D-Man wrote: On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 01:46:34PM -0500, will trillich wrote: | pooh. i tried setting LESSCHARSET=iso8859 (and latin1) via | bash 'export' so it'd be an environment variable, but even LESS | still displays high-bit (8-bit) characters as chinese: | | % export LESSCHARSET=latin1 | % zless /etc/console-tools/default.kmap.gz | [snip] | compose '^' 'u' to 'û' | compose '' 'U' to 'Ü' | compose '' 'u' to 'ü' | compose '\'' 'Y' to 'Ý' | compose '\'' 'y' to 'ý' | compose 'T' 'H' to 'Þ' | compose 't' 'h' to 'þ' | compose 's' 's' to 'ß' | compose '' 'y' to 'ÿ' | compose 's' 'z' to 'ß' | compose 'i' 'j' to 'ÿ' Still looks fine here. Try $ cp /etc/console-tools/default.kmap.gz /tmp $ gunzip /tmp/default.kmap.gz $ less /tmp/default.kmap Perhaps zless doesn't use the same environment variables as less? nope. in VI (which i'd expect to be unaffected by LESS* environment variables) they're still chinese under krxvt and semi-greek under console. when viewing your message in MUTT under krxvt they all show as '?' so i thought mutt was intercepting 8-bit chars and transposing ? for each; but then at console (alt-ctl-f2) i see the pseudo-greek again, even in the mutt 'message-view' mode. so i'm lost. X - KRXVT: mutt = '?' vi = chinese(?) CONSOLE (ctl-alt-f2): mutt = semi-greek vi = semi-greek i'd like to specify latin1 or one of the iso sets... ? -- so i could still use some pointers on how to get CONSOLE sessions to switch alternate 8-bit charsets (from greek to latin1)? and same for XTERM/RXVT sessions under X (from chinese? to latin1)? -- americans should never read anything so subversive as what's at http://www.salon.com/people/col/pagl/2001/03/21/spring/index1.html [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sourceforge.net/projects/newbiedoc -- we need your brain! http://www.dontUthink.com/ -- your brain needs us!
Re: koffice -- how-to?
On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 08:47:36PM +0100, Chris Howells wrote: From: will trillich [EMAIL PROTECTED] there seems to be a bunch of nouns missing there. how do i figure out (where be the fligging manual) what command to issue to get into spreadsheet (kspread) or wordprocessing (kword)? I'm not familiar with the apt-get method of install KDE (since I just download the tar.gzs and compile them), but you should be able to run the applications by just typing 'kspread', 'kword', or 'koshell' for the KOffice shell. i'm looking to play nice with the debian package-management system so my upgrades won't clobber anything i've installed on purpose, and so i can keep up with the latest when it gets refreshed with a new version. where i got stuck was after apt-get install koffice-libs and what i was looking for -- SOLVED -- was apt-get install kword kspread krayon kpresenter killustrator kchart so apparently you must install each component (application?) intentionally. seems to me like apt-get install koffice could do a dependency-include kind of thing to install all the software. no? -- but getting back to the html documentation for koffice ... is there a non-screwy version that includes all the pertinent nouns, somewhere? -- americans should never read anything so subversive as what's at http://www.salon.com/people/col/pagl/2001/03/21/spring/index1.html [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sourceforge.net/projects/newbiedoc -- we need your brain! http://www.dontUthink.com/ -- your brain needs us!
Re: HP Scanjet4200C
Glen == Glen Snyder [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Glen Hi Brian, I have had a 4200c for over a year now, and it Glen took me quite awhile to get it working with Debian. Here's Glen what I had to do: Go to Sourceforge and download the SANE Glen drivers as tarballs. Download a patch for the 4200c and Glen apply it to the SANE driver. Install the Patched SANE Glen driver (I couldn't figure out how to use the DEBs for SANE Glen because they don't have the patch applied) Hack a few lines Glen in the scanner module file of your kernel and recompile the Glen kernel (This is explained in the Source Forge page for the Glen 4200c patch) You will need to be using a kernel with USB Glen support. Make a link to the scanner. Yuck. I was hoping everything would work without any modifications, but it looks like everything has to be modified. Do you have the sourceforge URL? Glen When you are done with this, then you will be able to use Glen xsane to perform your scans. You won't be able to use the Glen GIMP plugin for SANE, though. Also, the scanner produces Glen weird distortions (the x axis is stretched out). Double yuck. Why doesn't the GIMP plugin work? Is the distortion even? ie will an image resize compensate? Glen In short, the 4200c is the most disappointing computer Glen hardware purchase that I have made. The only reason I have Glen Windows still on my computer as a dual boot is to use the Glen scanner. I have seen no progress with the patch in 6 months Glen or so, either. I will probably end up trying to trade it for Glen another Linux-supported SANE-compatible scanner. Please let me know if you see any improvements... although it sounds similar with my experience with colour printers, too. Is it just the 4200c which is bad, or all HP scanners? If I were to purchase another scanner and wanted one that is Linux compatible what should I get? Thanks for your reply. -- Brian May [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: water, water everywhere, but not a drop to drink.
On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 10:52:54PM -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote: now MacOS X, which is housetrained Unix, [...] thats not what i would call it. i would call it a neutered Unix thats been run over by a truck. -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ pgpI4OsWuRLgS.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: water, water everywhere, but not a drop to drink.
okay, paul, i'm officially recruiting you, hammer-and-tongs, as a newbiedoc contributor. your prose is wonderful and echoes frmo hill and dale with a sparkling clarity that... oh, hell, you can write, man! delightful! and kevin, when the light goes on, and all the fog clears, imagine how much hair-pulling you'll save the next poor soul if you document what you learned... hmm? http://sourceForge.net/projects/newbiedoc/ On Wed, Apr 11, 2001 at 03:39:55AM -0400, Paul D. Smith wrote: %% Kevin Stokes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ks There is something that Linux needs much more than anything else, ks and that is a decent help system. We need something about 50 ks times larger than the man pages. Something which always has an ks extensive chapter in simple layman language, and lots of examples ks with clear steps with *explanations*. And also a way to get to ks the more typically man page type stuff for the people who need ks that. ks Who is willing to create such a thing? Not me, I'm not a Linux ks devotee. That's the problem. The people writing the program write documentation that makes sense to them and to other people using it. This documentation is naturally technical in nature. There's a certain critical mass of knowledge you need to obtain before you can really start understanding the documentation. What's needed is for people like _you_ to help write super newbie docs. We can't do it. We're not newbies. We don't know what newbies need. i beg to differ! http://sourceForge.net/projects/newbiedoc/ ks But the bottom line is that the Windows Help system totally blows ks away all the confusing HOWTO's, man pages, or archived email ks searches. See, here's a prime example of the differences in our perspective. The Windows Help system _sucks_ huge boulders through coffee stirrers. It totally blows chunks. that may wind up in a ~/.signature soon! :) ks Anyway... Does anybody know what steps I need to do in order make ks ssh work so I can log in remotely? I wanted to try to use Tera ks Term Pro with the SSH extenstion to log onto my Linux machine from ks a Windows machine on the local network. ks Right now if I type: ks ssh -v -l root rocky Here's the thing. You can't login remotely as root, by default, over ssh: the ssh setup disallows this (as with everything in UNIX, this is configurable if you really want to do it--it's a bad idea so it's disabled initially). You don't want to work as root, at all, ever, anytime, anywhere, anyplace. Even for testing. _Especially_ for testing. Use root only when you must do root operations, then run screaming into the bushes again immediately after you've done that operation. wonderful! Be careful! That private key is like your password; anyone who gets a copy can get into your system. It's a good idea to sign the key with a passphrase when ssh-keygen asks for one: then people not only need the private key but they also need your passphrase. This is more secure because the passphrase is used only to unlock the key locally; neither the passphrase _NOR_ the key itself are ever transmitted over the network. Public/private key cryptography is not the most straightforward thing in the world, unfortunately. or fortunately, depending on which facet you're looking into. :) -- americans should never read anything so subversive as what's at http://www.salon.com/people/col/pagl/2001/03/21/spring/index1.html [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sourceForge.net/projects/newbiedoc -- we need your brain! http://www.dontUthink.com/ -- your brain needs us!
Re: water, water everywhere, but not a drop to drink.
On Wed, Apr 11, 2001 at 03:39:55AM -0400, Paul D. Smith wrote: Be root: # groupadd kevin # useradd -g kevin -m kevin # passwd kevin um you only have to do it that way if you use roothat. debian has a very nice utility that does all 3 of those steps in one simple command: Be root: # adduser kevin thats it, it will create the group, the user, ask you for a password, and ask you for nice things like your full name and such. -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ pgpfzvgaeMyuq.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: mysterious ipchains deny from 192.168.*.* ??
On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 12:52:22PM -0700, Brandon High wrote: On Tue, 10 Apr 2001, will trillich wrote: here's a logcheck message i got recently, where ipchains is logging certain unwelcome hits (based on what's primarily the default ipmasq filtering rules)-- - Forwarded message from root [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Security Violations =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Apr 8 17:45:10 server kernel: Packet log: input DENY eth0 PROTO=1 172.149.223.27:10 224.0.0.2:0 L=28 S=0x00 I=11290 F=0x T=128 (#7) PROTO=1 means that it was an ICMP packet. Someone is trying to ping you. Look at /usr/include/netinet/ip_icmp.h for an explanation of ICMP types. The type is listed after the : on your host address. Type 0 is ICMP_ECHOREPLY okay. and that someone is at 172.149.223.27, right? so i can figure out from that ip which domain they're in: % whois 172.149.223.27 America Online, Inc. (NETBLK-AOL-172BLK) 12100 Sunrise Valley Drive Reston, VA 20191 US Netname: AOL-172BLK Netblock: 172.128.0.0 - 172.191.255.255 Maintainer: AOL [snip] no surprise there. -- so now here's the BIG mystery -- Apr 8 17:59:48 server kernel: Packet log: input DENY eth1 PROTO=1 192.168.241.180:4 208.33.90.85:0 L=56 S=0x00 I=12140 F=0x4000 T=240 (#4) where did THIS packet come from? 192.168.241.180 ? that's an intranet ip, a localnet / lan address, theoretically from somewhere inside the building. but all we've got inside here is 192.168.1.* !! ideas? -- americans should never read anything so subversive as what's at http://www.salon.com/people/col/pagl/2001/03/21/spring/index1.html [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sourceforge.net/projects/newbiedoc -- we need your brain! http://www.dontUthink.com/ -- your brain needs us!
Buerk : newbie-debian-user@lists.debian.org
If i'm out of line someone please let me know, don't want to offend any moderators. I kept thinking about some post talking about a debian newbie mailinglist. Why would we want that ? I think it's a rather fascist thing to do, i've encountered this kind of nonsense on several other mailinglists and allways feel bad about it. Why make debian/linux or any other mailinglist an elite forum ? Can you imagine yourself way back when you started out using linux giving advice to people who were just trying their first install ? Bet you would have nuked a couple of systems before you got things running smoothly. People who oppose to newbies posting to a list should simply remove themselves from it or write some mailfilter to filter out newbie messages. I also wonder what the big deal is, if wouldn't take any intermediate user too long to answer the type of questions newbies are asking would it ? Maybe it would be a good idea for newbies to prefix there mails with NB : or Newbie : just like there exists a habit of using OT : for off-topic messages. This should also help out the people who simply don't want to be bothered with newbie questions. Regards, Joris
Re: my network device
On Wed, Apr 11, 2001, Govaere Jan wrote: Hello I've got an compaq 10/100 TX UTP Controller fon a Compaq Proliant 800. I want to install it and I don't know how ? The dmesg | grep eth0 doesnt't print nothing. Thanks for your help Hi, Google is your friend... It brings up for me an old page of Compaq's (now existing only in Google cache): http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:vcmproapp02.compaq.com/ActiveAnswers/Global/en/solutions.1076/Online.7179/additional_online.7216/default.asp+compaq+10/100+TX+UTP+Controller+linuxhl=en According to this page: At this time, the embedded NIC card on the Compaq ProLiant 1600, 1600R, and 1850R is based on the Texas Instruments ThunderLAN chipset. Similar dual-speed and single-speed PCI cards are available in the marketplace, under several different brand names. Both the embedded and PCI cards are controlled by the TI ThunderLAN (TLAN) device driver written by James Banks of Caldera Systems, Inc. (www.calderasystems.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]). More info can be found on page at above link. Hope this helps and take care, Daniel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Daniel A. Freedman Laboratory for Atomic and Solid State Physics Department of Physics Cornell University
Re: koffice -- how-to?
On Wed, Apr 11, 2001 at 03:03:04AM -0500, will trillich wrote: what i was looking for -- SOLVED -- was apt-get install kword kspread krayon kpresenter killustrator kchart well, i THOUGHT everything was solved. alas... % kspread koffice (lib kofficecore): ERROR: Couldn't find the native MimeType in kspread's desktop file. Check your installation ! % killustrator koffice (lib kofficecore): ERROR: Couldn't find the native MimeType in killustrator's desktop file. Check your installation ! ...etc... suggestions hereby solicited; current sources.list follows. # /etc/apt/sources.list deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ stable main non-free contrib deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable/non-US main contrib non-free deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security potato/updates main contrib non-free deb http://security.debian.org/debian-non-US potato/non-US main contrib non-free deb http://security.debian.org potato/updates main contrib non-free deb http://kde.rap.ucar.edu stable main crypto optional qt1apps deb http://ftp.sourceForge.net/pub/mirrors/kde/stable/latest/distribution/deb stable main -- americans should never read anything so subversive as what's at http://www.salon.com/people/col/pagl/2001/03/21/spring/index1.html [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sourceforge.net/projects/newbiedoc -- we need your brain! http://www.dontUthink.com/ -- your brain needs us!
Re: 2Gb files
/dev/zero just provides a source of data eg cat -A /dev/zero | head -c 20 I was using dd as a quick way of trying to create a large (2GB) file. On Wed, Apr 11, 2001 at 10:00:59AM +0200, Joris Lambrecht wrote: first of all, forgive me my ignorance, i wonder what you are doing with dd over here are you logging the output of /dev/zero or what ? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: dinsdag 10 april 2001 19:07 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: 2Gb files Hi, I'm looking for hints on using 2GB files I'm using a 2.4.3 kernel-image compiled from debian kernel-source package. After installing the corresponding kernel-headers deb I created, I have recompiled glibc (2.2.2-4) with a #apt-get --build source glibc then installed the created debs... #dpkg -i ./libc6-dev_2.2.2-4_i386.deb ./libc6_2.2.2-4_i386.deb ./locales_2.2.2-4_all.deb I then build fileutils, #apt-get -t testing --build source fileutils and install them, #dpkg -i ./fileutils_4.0.43-1_i386.deb Unfortunately a #/bin/dd if=/dev/zero of=file2 bs=1024 count=3553600 gives me a File size limit exceeded I've tried this in ext2fs and reiserfs and have tried a --build source and install of their respective progs packages, recreation of filesystems but I still have the 2GB limit. Any ideas? What I should be checking? thanks, david -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: combo GUI/text mail client
On 10 Apr 2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's what I'd like to have: a mail client that I can access via a nice, flashy GUI when I'm sitting at my desk, or via a simple text-mode interface when I'm connecting remotely. Mutt! Will run in an terminal under X and on the console equally well. You can link it to whatever editor takes your fancy - emacs if you like but Jed, Joe, or the glorious Vim are all possibles. But hey, why not Gnus? These shared struggles cement a marriage! (Or sink it...) Good luck Glyn -- so here we are then http://members.tripod.co.uk/Christchurch2000uk Running Debian/Gnu Linux 9:55am up 1:17, 2 users, load average: 0.02, 0.08, 0.08
RE: Buerk : newbie-debian-user@lists.debian.org
Hear, hear, Me too! We were all newbies once. We are (probably) all pseudo newbies when we start working in a new area. Welcome newbies. Help newbies. And thank you to everyone who has helped me directly, or via the archives. Debian people are nice people. :-) Dave -- E-Mail: Dave Whiteley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 11-Apr-2001 Time: 09:37:56 Phone: 0113 233 2059 Missing .sig (I am trying to give them up.) --
NB : RE: Buerk : newbie-debian-user@lists.debian.org
hi, bieng a newbie i would have to agree with you. there really is a lot of problems that a newbie faces with debian right from installation.so i guess the NB thing is fine.i will take care to c that all my mails are precceded with this identifier. thanx guyz, -Original Message- From: Joris Lambrecht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 11 April 2001 1:52 PM To: 'debian-user@lists.debian.org' Subject: Buerk : [EMAIL PROTECTED] If i'm out of line someone please let me know, don't want to offend any moderators. I kept thinking about some post talking about a debian newbie mailinglist. Why would we want that ? I think it's a rather fascist thing to do, i've encountered this kind of nonsense on several other mailinglists and allways feel bad about it. Why make debian/linux or any other mailinglist an elite forum ? Can you imagine yourself way back when you started out using linux giving advice to people who were just trying their first install ? Bet you would have nuked a couple of systems before you got things running smoothly. People who oppose to newbies posting to a list should simply remove themselves from it or write some mailfilter to filter out newbie messages. I also wonder what the big deal is, if wouldn't take any intermediate user too long to answer the type of questions newbies are asking would it ? Maybe it would be a good idea for newbies to prefix there mails with NB : or Newbie : just like there exists a habit of using OT : for off-topic messages. This should also help out the people who simply don't want to be bothered with newbie questions. Regards, Joris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. Any unauthorised review, use, disclosure, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this email or any action taken in reliance on this e-mail is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Visit us at http://www.cognizant.com
RE: 2Gb files
To be honest, i don't have the answer but i think this has allready been discussed some time ago, so you'll be able to find info on this in the mailingslistarchives greets, joris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: woensdag 11 april 2001 10:25 To: Joris Lambrecht; debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: 2Gb files /dev/zero just provides a source of data eg cat -A /dev/zero | head -c 20 I was using dd as a quick way of trying to create a large (2GB) file. On Wed, Apr 11, 2001 at 10:00:59AM +0200, Joris Lambrecht wrote: first of all, forgive me my ignorance, i wonder what you are doing with dd over here are you logging the output of /dev/zero or what ? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: dinsdag 10 april 2001 19:07 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: 2Gb files Hi, I'm looking for hints on using 2GB files I'm using a 2.4.3 kernel-image compiled from debian kernel-source package. After installing the corresponding kernel-headers deb I created, I have recompiled glibc (2.2.2-4) with a #apt-get --build source glibc then installed the created debs... #dpkg -i ./libc6-dev_2.2.2-4_i386.deb ./libc6_2.2.2-4_i386.deb ./locales_2.2.2-4_all.deb I then build fileutils, #apt-get -t testing --build source fileutils and install them, #dpkg -i ./fileutils_4.0.43-1_i386.deb Unfortunately a #/bin/dd if=/dev/zero of=file2 bs=1024 count=3553600 gives me a File size limit exceeded I've tried this in ext2fs and reiserfs and have tried a --build source and install of their respective progs packages, recreation of filesystems but I still have the 2GB limit. Any ideas? What I should be checking? thanks, david -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: No chance to get my IntellyMouse working under X
Raffaele Sandrini wrote: Hi all I need some help. I tried now everithing to get my IntelliMouse Morking under X 4.0.2. Not succsesfull until today.I have gpm disabled to do not confuse X. I tried every protocol X serves on the psaux port. But my mouses flips around and stays in the right upper corner of the screen. I have a VIA chipset, is there somewhat relatet to that?PLEASE HELP If it could be of any help, i've included a snip of my /etx/X11/XF86Config-4 (i have a VIA chipset too): Section InputDevice Identifier Configured Mouse Driver mouse Option CorePointer Option Device/dev/gpmdata Option Protocol ImPS/2 Option Emulate3Buttons false Option Buttons 5 Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 EndSection I have see another option (but i ignore what this does) with an autoconfigured one: Option SendCoreEventstrue You could try to look at http://www.inria.fr/koala/colas/mouse-wheel-scroll, there is a lot of resource (and IIRC a forum) related to mouse (in particular, wheel mouse)... Andrea
Re: Buerk : newbie-debian-user@lists.debian.org
On Wed, Apr 11, 2001 at 09:42:25AM +0100, Dave Whiteley wrote: Hear, hear, Me too! We were all newbies once. We are (probably) all pseudo newbies when we start working in a new area. Welcome newbies. Help newbies. Certainly! And hopefully, if some questions seem too silly to answer then don't! Someone else will realize it was a question they faced last month, and will lend a hand. Who knows -- maybe next year's gnu-software leader will be this afternoon's newbie! At some point we've all had to ask questions that seemed too simple to be believed. The way we get past it is by finding the answers -- sometimes on our own, sometimes with a bit of help, sometimes with a silver spoon jammed up a nostril. If you're short on temper, just skip it and let the next soul pitch in. This is volunteer, after all. If you don't want to help, then ignore it (delete it?) and move on to more challenging issues. Discouraging someone who might just be the next R.Schwartz or L.Stein simply because you're impatient or moody for an afternoon, just isn't worth the risk... imagine our loss! :) -- americans should never read anything so subversive as what's at http://www.salon.com/people/col/pagl/2001/03/21/spring/index1.html [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sourceforge.net/projects/newbiedoc -- we need your brain! http://www.dontUthink.com/ -- your brain needs us!
why does getdomainname(2) answer (none)?
Hi. I'm curious why my Debian systems always answers getdomainname() with (none). Actually, one of the FreeBSD machines I use responds with , but I'm still curious why it doesn't work. It looks like the dnsdomainname only uses getdomainname() if you ask about NIS. Both glibc and the hostname source seem to agree on this. What am I missing, or is the documentation just bogus? Thanks. Tim
Fw: su in X
Dear list, this should be easy, but I have not managed yet... I run Gnome desktop as a 'regular' user. If I need to do systemsmanagment, I do 'su -' in a terminal to get root access. Only if I need to start an X app (just installed red-carper), I get an error: Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: Can anyone suggest how to avoid this? I recall something with export display, but do not get it to work... Thanks a lot. Erk van der Meulen NB I probably end up wanting to have a menu-button for this application. Is 'sudo' than the way to go?
Re: /etc/network/interfaces help please
On 9/4/01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm confused about what I should be writing in the interfaces file. .. iface eth0 inet static address 194.159.148.141 netmask 255.255.255.0 need to break that into separate lines-- iface eth0 inet static address 192.168.1.1 netmask 255.255.0.0 network 192.168.1.0 broadcast 192.168.1.255 # gateway xx.yy.zz.qq man interfaces Thanks for the help, Will: that sorted it. I'm also having trouble setting the 127.0.0.0 lo net address. Can this be done in the interfaces file? Cheers, and thanks again. Rory
command for closing windowmaker
Hello, Right now I use a combination of WindowMaker and the gnome 'panel' application as my environment. When I want to log out, it takes 4 clicks. (rightclick, WindowManagers, Exit, OK). Is there a command for closing WindowMaker, so I can put a button on the panel to log off? (like 'click-enter')? Arnout
RE: Fw: su in X
I had a similar problem a bit ago. I seem to recall that I fixed it by making root's ~/.Xauthority file a symbolic link to my version of the same file. Sounds horrid, but it works - as long as you are always su-ing from the same login name. Dave On 11-Apr-2001 Erik van der Meulen wrote: Dear list, this should be easy, but I have not managed yet... I run Gnome desktop as a 'regular' user. If I need to do systemsmanagment, I do 'su -' in a terminal to get root access. Only if I need to start an X app (just installed red-carper), I get an error: Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: Can anyone suggest how to avoid this? I recall something with export display, but do not get it to work... Thanks a lot. Erk van der Meulen NB I probably end up wanting to have a menu-button for this application. Is 'sudo' than the way to go? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- E-Mail: Dave Whiteley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 11-Apr-2001 Time: 10:45:54 Phone: 0113 233 2059 Missing .sig (I am trying to give them up.) --
Re: Fw: su in X
on Wed, Apr 11, 2001 at 10:49:18AM +0100, Dave Whiteley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I had a similar problem a bit ago. I seem to recall that I fixed it by making root's ~/.Xauthority file a symbolic link to my version of the same file. Don't do that. Instead, as root: $ xauth -merge ~$user/.xauthority ...for appropriate values of $user. -- Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.comhttp://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What part of Gestalt don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/ http://www.kuro5hin.org pgpCcdP28DuXW.pgp Description: PGP signature
Postgres do.maintenance
Hello, I've just installed postgresql 7.0 from unstable. Everything is ok, except for the do.maintenance script. Right now it's running for 392 minutes eating up 70% CPU constantly, though I have only 1 postgres database and no data in it. This doesn't seem to be the healthy behaviour to me. Is it? Bye: PP. PS. Please cc me i'm not on the list
Re: Fw: su in X
Thanks, I thought it sounded horrid. I presume that this is a one off fix. You need to do it each time you su? Dave On 11-Apr-2001 Karsten M. Self wrote: on Wed, Apr 11, 2001 at 10:49:18AM +0100, Dave Whiteley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I had a similar problem a bit ago. I seem to recall that I fixed it by making root's ~/.Xauthority file a symbolic link to my version of the same file. Don't do that. Instead, as root: $ xauth -merge ~$user/.xauthority ...for appropriate values of $user. -- Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.com http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What part of Gestalt don't you understand? There is no K5 cabal http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/ http://www.kuro5hin.org -- E-Mail: Dave Whiteley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 11-Apr-2001 Time: 11:03:47 Phone: 0113 233 2059 Missing .sig (I am trying to give them up.) --
Re: command for closing windowmaker
Arnout Engelen wrote: Hello, Right now I use a combination of WindowMaker and the gnome 'panel' application as my environment. When I want to log out, it takes 4 clicks. (rightclick, WindowManagers, Exit, OK). Is there a command for closing WindowMaker, so I can put a button on the panel to log off? (like 'click-enter')? With the same combination, I use the gnome-panel's logout icon - 2 clicks (icon, OK). -- Oliver Elphick[EMAIL PROTECTED] Isle of Wight http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver PGP: 1024R/32B8FAA1: 97 EA 1D 47 72 3F 28 47 6B 7E 39 CC 56 E4 C1 47 GPG: 1024D/3E1D0C1C: CA12 09E0 E8D5 8870 5839 932A 614D 4C34 3E1D 0C1C Is any one of you in trouble? He should pray. Is anyone happy? Let him sing songs of praise. Is any one of you sick? He should call the elders of the church to pray over him...The prayer of a righteous man is powerful and effective. James 5:13,14,16
Re: 2Gb files
Hi - I'm looking for a tale of success, suggestion of something to check, or a link to a more detailed recipe for 2GB files on i386 using debian really. On Wed, Apr 11, 2001 at 10:44:49AM +0200, Joris Lambrecht wrote: To be honest, i don't have the answer but i think this has allready been discussed some time ago, so you'll be able to find info on this in the mailingslistarchives Right, well I had already had a scan of the list archives and all I could gather from them, aside from moving to a 64bit architecture, was that for a 2.4 series kernel the main requirement was to recompile the c library with the 2.4 kernel headers. This is why I have followed the prescription below. Some deleted correspondence I'm using a 2.4.3 kernel-image compiled from debian kernel-source package. After installing the corresponding kernel-headers deb I created, I have recompiled glibc (2.2.2-4) with a #apt-get --build source glibc then installed the created debs... #dpkg -i ./libc6-dev_2.2.2-4_i386.deb ./libc6_2.2.2-4_i386.deb ./locales_2.2.2-4_all.deb I then build fileutils, #apt-get -t testing --build source fileutils and install them, #dpkg -i ./fileutils_4.0.43-1_i386.deb Unfortunately a #/bin/dd if=/dev/zero of=file2 bs=1024 count=3553600 gives me a File size limit exceeded I've tried this in ext2fs and reiserfs and have tried a --build source and install of their respective progs packages, recreation of filesystems but I still have the 2GB limit. Any ideas? What I should be checking? thanks, david
RE: su in X
When you log in as a regular user, and you 'su -' to root, you have to define you 'export DISPLAY=:0.0' again. The minus sign after the su command means that you want to assume root's environment. So if there is not an explicit export DISPLAY statement in /root/.bash_profile or /root/.bashrc, the root environment has no idea what the display should be. Hope this helps -mk -Original Message- From: Erik van der Meulen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 5:26 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Fw: su in X Dear list, this should be easy, but I have not managed yet... I run Gnome desktop as a 'regular' user. If I need to do systemsmanagment, I do 'su -' in a terminal to get root access. Only if I need to start an X app (just installed red-carper), I get an error: Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: Can anyone suggest how to avoid this? I recall something with export display, but do not get it to work... Thanks a lot. Erk van der Meulen NB I probably end up wanting to have a menu-button for this application. Is 'sudo' than the way to go? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: water, water everywhere, but not a drop to drink.
On Wed, Apr 11, 2001 at 01:22:42AM -0400, Paul D. Smith wrote: On my local network I have installed and run telnet-ssl and telnetd-ssl. This is normal telnet authentication, but your password, etc. is sent encrypted instead of in the clear. That's enough paranoia for me, since I have a very strict firewall guarding it. Are there any decent SSL telnet clients for non Unix platforms? noah -- ___ | Web: http://web.morgul.net/~frodo/ | PGP Public Key: http://web.morgul.net/~frodo/mail.html pgpdyAMr62rZw.pgp Description: PGP signature
Change various settings of Exim
Hi all, Is it possible to change default settings of Exim. E.g. i type an Email address wrong then i have faulty email laying around for 20 days and i have to delete it manually. Can i get Exim to send me an mail-failure after the mail can't be send for 1 hour or 1 day? cheers, Raffaele -- Raffaele Sandrini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the most powerfull Linux desktop at www.kde.org !! Check out the best Linux distribution at www.debian.org (www.linux.org)
RE: water, water everywhere, but not a drop to drink.
Since you're asking for non-unix platforms try this search on google returned good results http://www.google.com/search?hl=nlsafe=offq=ssl+windows+telnet+freewarelr = I would advise TeraTerm if you're living in an English native country. There are some issues with international keyboards wich couldn't be resolved, at least not by me. regards, joris -Original Message- From: Noah L. Meyerhans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: woensdag 11 april 2001 13:04 To: Debian User List Subject: Re: water, water everywhere, but not a drop to drink. On Wed, Apr 11, 2001 at 01:22:42AM -0400, Paul D. Smith wrote: On my local network I have installed and run telnet-ssl and telnetd-ssl. This is normal telnet authentication, but your password, etc. is sent encrypted instead of in the clear. That's enough paranoia for me, since I have a very strict firewall guarding it. Are there any decent SSL telnet clients for non Unix platforms? noah -- ___ | Web: http://web.morgul.net/~frodo/ | PGP Public Key: http://web.morgul.net/~frodo/mail.html
Re: Fw: su in X
On Wed, Apr 11, 2001 at 11:25:46AM +0200, Erik van der Meulen wrote: Dear list, this should be easy, but I have not managed yet... I run Gnome desktop as a 'regular' user. If I need to do systemsmanagment, I do 'su -' in a terminal to get root access. Only if I need to start an X app (just installed red-carper), I get an error: Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: Can anyone suggest how to avoid this? I recall something with export display, but do not get it to work... X11 apps should not be run as root, if it requires that its broken. rant why can't these developers write the GUI program to run as a unprivileged user using a tiny, non-GUI, non-X program to do the privileged stuff. /rant -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ pgpcmiutVVFMx.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Fw: su in X
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11-Apr-2001 Karsten M. Self wrote: on Wed, Apr 11, 2001 at 10:49:18AM +0100, Dave Whiteley ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I had a similar problem a bit ago. I seem to recall that I fixed it by making root's ~/.Xauthority file a symbolic link to my version of the same file. Don't do that. Instead, as root: $ xauth -merge ~$user/.xauthority ...for appropriate values of $user. Coo, thank you, I've been wondering what the right way to do that was (Dave's solution was the neatest way I knew). Thanks, I thought it sounded horrid. I presume that this is a one off fix. You need to do it each time you su? I guess something like: [ $DISPLAY ] xauth -merge ~$user/.Xauthority ... in root's .bashrc would do, assuming there's only one plausible value of $user. Or, for hack value, 'ssh -X [EMAIL PROTECTED]' will do the job if you have PermitRootLogin turned on. :) -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2Gb files
Hi, Maybe you've received better suggestion, but any way I'll offer my $0.02. When you recompiled libc, where the compiler looks for the kernel's header? I mean: it might be the case that gcc is using /usr/include/linux (2.2.18) for the kernel's header instead of your /usr/src/linux/include/linux (2.4.3) So I think that for enable 2GB files you should copy all /usr/src/linux/include/linux to /usr/include/linux and then try to recompile glibc. Just my $0.02 []s Mario O.de MenezesMany are the plans in a man's heart, but IPEN-CNEN/SP is the Lord's purpose that prevails http://curiango.ipen.br/~mario Prov. 19.21
Exim config settings
Hi, How do I get exim to add a Delivered-to: header for each email? Thanks, Eugene van Zyl
Re: Postgres do.maintenance
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I've just installed postgresql 7.0 from unstable. Everything is ok, except for the do.maintenance script. Right now it's running for 392 minutes eating up 70% CPU constantly, though I have only 1 postgres database and no data in it. This doesn't seem to be the healthy behaviour to me. Is it? I have seen a similar report; the diagnosis in that case was that it was actively waiting for a password to be entered. Options: 1: follow the instructions in /etc/cron.d/postgresql on supplying a password to do.maintenance. 2: in /etc/cron.d/postgresql or in do maintenance set PGHOST to localhost and export it. Make sure postmaster is started with -i option (ALLOWTCPIP option in /etc/postgresql/postmaster.init). In /etc/postgresql/pg_hba.conf, add the line host all 127.0.0.1 255.0.0.0 ident sameuser This will allow any user to connect through TCP/IP on localhost as himself without giving a password. He will not be able to change identity. -- Oliver Elphick[EMAIL PROTECTED] Isle of Wight http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver PGP: 1024R/32B8FAA1: 97 EA 1D 47 72 3F 28 47 6B 7E 39 CC 56 E4 C1 47 GPG: 1024D/3E1D0C1C: CA12 09E0 E8D5 8870 5839 932A 614D 4C34 3E1D 0C1C Is any one of you in trouble? He should pray. Is anyone happy? Let him sing songs of praise. Is any one of you sick? He should call the elders of the church to pray over him...The prayer of a righteous man is powerful and effective. James 5:13,14,16
Re: Buerk : newbie-debian-user@lists.debian.org
Joris Lambrecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If i'm out of line someone please let me know, don't want to offend any moderators. Moderators? Maybe it would be a good idea for newbies to prefix there mails with NB : or Newbie : just like there exists a habit of using OT : for off-topic messages. This should also help out the people who simply don't want to be bothered with newbie questions. Bah, no sense encouraging people to classify themselves as newbies - people who are aware enough of their limitations to say that are usually not a great problem to answer, and tend to be more clueful than they think they are anyway. (Where was it that I saw an essay on the way people who classified themselves as most computer-literate had a higher chance of performing least well in tests?) -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Woody nukes Gnome
If I purge all of the ximian and helix files, that's practically every application I use99 packages not to mention the others that will probably be removed because of dependency problems. Debian Woody sets up gnome 1.0.56 Ximian Woody has installed 1.2.11 for some time now. I think an itsy-bitsy file like libart2 caused everything to cave in (that seems to be one of the files causing the problem). I've looked at the correspondence between the Ximian and Debianand accusations about who does not support who. It sounds like Ximian threw up their hands out of frustration when they said they would no longer offer support for testing. -Glen
Re: water, water everywhere, but not a drop to drink.
PS - People take all their accumulated windows knowledge for granted. Years and years and years of it, and then expect that they can learn a new OS over night. Simply rediculous. The truth is that I have *never* purchased or read a book on using the Windows operating system. I've never had to go online and look for DOC, with the exception of when Microsoft stuff crashes, in which case you can use their knowledge base. I had never even used the Windows Help system until my network didn't work. And then it was useful stuff. Their network stuff for 95/98 is a mess, and doesn't work right. But the help file was readable and gave you clear instructions on what you were supposed to do. Anyway, the purpose of my post was not to criticize Linux. The purpose was to point out to people that Linux could have a much brighter future than it does now. My point is for every page which is actually readable by a newbie, there are 100 pages of stuff which is incomprehensible to him. A zillion pages on how to do all kinds of exotic cool things, and hardly any organized info on how to get Linux running with a GUI so you can run a word-processor, internet browser, email, and and be able to get printouts. And those pages which *are* suitable for newbies are mixed in with all the expert stuff. So I like Linux itself, and am pretty soured on Windows. But in my opinion people who are devoted to Linux could improve the market share dramatically by spending less time coming up with new kernels and versions of everything, and more time looking at why people who try Linux turn away after a short experiment. -Kevin Stokes
