Re: Faulty apache configuration problems

2001-10-13 Thread John Foster
Alson van der Meulen wrote:

> look like some libapache-perl or whatever that package is called is
> missing
=
Thanks but, I am using the apache-perl.deb that has perl statically
linked to apache--not mod perl.
Any other ideas?

John Foster



Re: Faulty apache configuration problems

2001-10-13 Thread Alson van der Meulen
On Sat, Oct 13, 2001 at 11:32:21PM -0500, John Foster wrote:
> I had Apache running nicely on a new test server (woody system) and I
> added a complete  set of perl-mods and apache-mods when dselect was
> finished I attempted to restart the server with this as the result. Any
> ideas what might have caused this and how to fix it?
> 
> 
> server:/home/user# apachectl start
> [Sat Oct 13 23:20:22 2001] [error] Can't locate Apache.pm in @INC (@INC
> contains
> : /usr/local/lib/perl/5.6.1 /usr/local/share/perl/5.6.1 /usr/lib/perl5
> /usr/shar
> e/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.6.1 /usr/share/perl/5.6.1
> /usr/local/lib/site_perl /usr/
> lib/perl5/5.6/i386-linux /usr/lib/perl5/5.6
> /usr/lib/perl5/5.005/i386-linux /usr
> /lib/perl5/5.005 . /etc/apache/ /etc/apache/lib/perl) at (eval 1) line
> 3.
look like some libapache-perl or whatever that package is called is
missing



Faulty apache configuration problems

2001-10-13 Thread John Foster
I had Apache running nicely on a new test server (woody system) and I
added a complete  set of perl-mods and apache-mods when dselect was
finished I attempted to restart the server with this as the result. Any
ideas what might have caused this and how to fix it?


server:/home/user# apachectl start
[Sat Oct 13 23:20:22 2001] [error] Can't locate Apache.pm in @INC (@INC
contains
: /usr/local/lib/perl/5.6.1 /usr/local/share/perl/5.6.1 /usr/lib/perl5
/usr/shar
e/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.6.1 /usr/share/perl/5.6.1
/usr/local/lib/site_perl /usr/
lib/perl5/5.6/i386-linux /usr/lib/perl5/5.6
/usr/lib/perl5/5.005/i386-linux /usr
/lib/perl5/5.005 . /etc/apache/ /etc/apache/lib/perl) at (eval 1) line
3.

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Re: D-Link DFE-530TX+ Installation

2001-10-13 Thread Erik Steffl
dman wrote:
> 
> On Sat, Oct 13, 2001 at 04:47:23PM -0500, W. Paul Mills wrote:
> | [EMAIL PROTECTED] (dman) writes:
> | > On Sat, Oct 13, 2001 at 04:42:18PM -0400, Rong Fan wrote:
> [...]
> 
> | > | D-Link DFE-530TX+
> 
> | >
> [...]
> 
> | > tulip
> 
> [...]
> 
> | NO NO  See that + on the end -- takes the rtl8139 driver.
> 
> Doh!  As I was writing, I was having difficulty recalling which this
> card took.  I was thinking this was tulip, and the non-plus one was
> rtl8139.  My bad.  I see that someone else has suggested via-rhine.
> The DE-530TX (no 'F') uses the via-rhine.  Use the rtl8139 for a 2.2
> kernel and 8139too for the 2.4 kernel (you probably have 2.2).

  I use: 8139too (I have the same card.

  There are several different cards sold with this exact same model
number (I have two of them and they are definitely different since the
newer one did not work with older driver while older one did, this was
confirmed by authors of the driver).

  You need either drivers from scyld.com (don's remeber exact name) or
2.4 kernel drivers (8139too)

erik



How-to

2001-10-13 Thread Scott Henson
A few weeks back I read this How-to for ex Be-os users switching to debian.
I am not an ex-Be-os user, but I found the instructions a lot more readable
and easier to follow than those provided by the official debian how-to.  Now
I am almost ready to install debian (I am waiting on some new hardware
including a new hard drive) and the site that hosts this how-to seems to be
down.  The Link is http://tinyplanet.ca/pubs/debian/html/book1.html.  I
tried going there today and it gave me a page unavaliable error(stupid IE).
I have tried the link on other computers and it still seems to be down.  Now
the reason why I am posting this mesage is because the network I am on is
really tempramental and stupid. It gives these errors often for pages that
can be accessed outside the network.  As I do not have access to a computer
outside the network I can not tell if this is what is happening.  If someone
can please go to this link and see if the site is down I would apreciate it.
If it is up, could someone please email me the how-to(if its not too much
trouble).  If it isnt could someone with information as too why its not up
and if it will ever come back up please let me know.  Thank you -Scott



Re: netscape and debian stable

2001-10-13 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Sat, Oct 13, 2001 at 05:31:07PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:
> a very strange thing happened to my system today. I am running debian
> 2.2r3 and netscape 4.76. Everything ran fine until today when for no
> apparent reason Netscape began locking up my keyboard. The mouse still
> worked and all my running programs still worked, but no keyboard. This
> only happened when I ran netscape.
> 
> Has this happened to anyone else or does anyone know what might be
> happening?

Netscape 4.x sucks.  It bites.  It blows.  It's shit.  Ditch it.

It's sometimes the most reasonable choice if your box has < 64 MB RAM 
or < PII processor, though dillo is faster (though less featureful) and
BrowseX may be a suitable replacement (though not packaged for Debian).

Otherwise, I'd strongly encourage you to look at Galeon, Konqueror,
Mozilla, or Skipstone as replacements.   Opera's there as well if you
can stomach proprietary software.

For more information, there's a review of GNU/Linux system browsers you
may find useful, at:

http://kmself.home.netcom.com/Linux/FAQs/browsers.html

I occasionally see keyboard lockups under Galeon (or did in 0.11.5, not
now with 0.12.1).  Switching to a virtual console to kill the process
got things back for me.

Peace.

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Re: Can I force ftp to use passive mode?

2001-10-13 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Sat, Oct 13, 2001 at 11:48:53PM -0400, Stan Brown ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> I'm behind a firewall, that requires that ftp be run in "passive" mode.
> While this s easy enough to do with the -p option, I would like to be able
> to set some system wide configuration, or environmnet variable, so that all
> users get this as the default.
> 
> Is this possible?

Stan, that you again?

   $ man man

Peace.

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Re: Can I force ftp to use passive mode?

2001-10-13 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Sat, Oct 13, 2001 at 11:48:53PM -0400, Stan Brown ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> I'm behind a firewall, that requires that ftp be run in "passive" mode.
> While this s easy enough to do with the -p option, I would like to be able
> to set some system wide configuration, or environmnet variable, so that all
> users get this as the default.

$ man ftp
$ pftp host

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Re: Why need an MTA in the defualt install ??

2001-10-13 Thread Joey Hess
Sunny Dubey wrote:
> why do most UNIX OS's ship with an MTA enabled in the default install??

Erm, because unix is a multiuser operating system, and mail is one of
the main communications channels between users and other entities on
such a system.

-- 
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Can I force ftp to use passive mode?

2001-10-13 Thread Stan Brown
I'm behind a firewall, that requires that ftp be run in "passive" mode.
While this s easy enough to do with the -p option, I would like to be able
to set some system wide configuration, or environmnet variable, so that all
users get this as the default.

Is this possible?

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a graphical shell for a 16-bit patch to an 8-bit operating system
originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor, written by a 2-bit 
company that can't stand for 1 bit of competition.
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Re: bad file

2001-10-13 Thread Alson van der Meulen
On Sat, Oct 13, 2001 at 08:07:12PM -0700, Kevin wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/share/doc/apt# chmod 644 guide.it.html
> chmod: changing permissions of `guide.it.html': Operation not permitted
try lsattr guide.it.html, guess the 'i' attribute is set (immutable)
chattr -i guide.it.html should fix it (man lsattr and man chattr for
more info)
I still recommend though that you fsck that fs ASAP, since you don't know if
there's any other damage.



Re: rxvt & vi

2001-10-13 Thread Ian Patrick Thomas
On Sun, Oct 14, 2001 at 03:53:44AM +0700, Mark Rompies wrote:
> Hi...
> 
> First...
> I wonder why my rxvt looks weird everytime I quit from vi? the rxvt window 
> is full of every last commands and its output, and I can't find my cursor 
> until i blindly type "clear" and press enter.
> 
> Second..
> Everytime i use vi:
> - i never see the "-INSERT-" (press "i", "o", "a" in command mode in vi) 
> mark at the bottom of my screen noted that i'm in the insert mode? Why? I 
> need it...How to show it up?

Go into command mode and do this 

: set showmode

It's off by default. If you don't want to do this every time then
edit your .bash_profile and add this line

set NEXINIT='set showmode'

Ian

> - i should press "i", "o", or "a" everytime i want to go to insert mode 
> just after every move i've made to another line. why??
> 
> thx a lot...
> I really need it...
> 
> 
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Re: bad file

2001-10-13 Thread Kevin
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/share/doc/apt# chmod 644 guide.it.html
chmod: changing permissions of `guide.it.html': Operation not permitted
> 
> >> On Sat, 13 Oct 2001 12:01:40 PDT, Kevin writes:
> >> >it looks like the filesystem is screwed up
> >> >
> >> >is there a way i can remove/fix this file remotely (ie no init 1)
> >> >
> >> >?-wS--x-w-  25830 3373684167 3802483123 14067798681382885448 Sep  2  1905 
> >> >g
> >uid
> >> >e.it.html
> >> 
> >> Long shot: Have you tried `cat /dev/null >guide.it.html`?
> 
> On Sat, 13 Oct 2001 18:47:55 PDT, Kevin writes:
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/share/doc/apt# cat /dev/null >guide.it.html
> >su: guide.it.html: Permission denied
> 
> Another long shot: chmod.
> 
> Then I'm out of ideas other than unmounting and fsck'ing...
> 
> cheers,
> &rw
> -- 
> -- Debugger
> -- Psychologe, der einem erklaert, warum man beim Anbaggern
> -- abgeblitzt ist.
> 
> 



gravis eliminator aftershock gamepad in Linux

2001-10-13 Thread Titus Barik
I'm not sure where to even start on this one. Alright, this is a USB
joystick which is available here:

http://www.gravis.com/products/pro_eli_d1022.html

I've created a /dev/js0 device for this gamepad and jstest detects it
and I can press all the buttons and whatnot and they respond.

However, in emulators such as snes9x, the program likes to use the
analog controller at the top-left. I want it to use the 8-way
directional controller instead. Otherwise, the gamepad more or less
seems to work.

I know this isn't exactly a priority issue for most of you guys, but I'd
appreciate any help.

Also, in my kernel, I have GrIP support disabled. Should this be
enabled?

Thanks.

Titus Barik ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
AIM: TBarik  ICQ: 1604453



Lock ups with kernel 2.4.10 & 2.4.12

2001-10-13 Thread Morgan Terry
I know this probably isn't debian related, but I figured I'd ask
here anyway.  My system is locking solid whenever I either (a)
exit X windows, or (b) switch to a VT from X (i.e. Ctrl-Alt-F2),
or (c) the console blanker comes on.  I have this happen with
kernels 2.4.10 and 2.4.12.  I am running 2.4.8 right now, and I
don't get the lockups with this kernel.  I haven't tried 2.4.9.
I've searched google (web and groups) with no success.  Anyone
know what's up with this?

[Please Cc: me replies]
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2001-10-13 Thread Peter Drzewiecki
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Re: debug messages while logged out

2001-10-13 Thread Marc Wilson
On Sat, Oct 13, 2001 at 06:41:57PM -0500, Gary Turner wrote:



> There are no background tasks running.  At least non that I know about.

Ah, that's where you're wrong... you have PostgreSQL installed and
running.  That cruft is telling you that it's hard at work.  Not doing
much of anything, probably, since you didn't yet know it was there, but
it IS running. ^_^

> I just went through the Q&A and put in everything.

Ah, that explains it.  I'd remove it, if you don't need it.

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Re: D-Link DFE-530TX+ Installation

2001-10-13 Thread dman
On Sun, Oct 14, 2001 at 04:21:21AM +0200, Theo Wribe wrote:
| > -Original Message-
| > From: dman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| > Sent: den 14 oktober 2001 03:31
| > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
| > Subject: Re: D-Link DFE-530TX+ Installation
| > 
| > On Sat, Oct 13, 2001 at 04:47:23PM -0500, W. Paul Mills wrote:
| > | [EMAIL PROTECTED] (dman) writes:
| > | > On Sat, Oct 13, 2001 at 04:42:18PM -0400, Rong Fan wrote:
| > [...]
| > 
| > | > | D-Link DFE-530TX+
| > 
| >
| > [...]
| >
| > | > tulip
| >
| > [...]
| >
| > | NO NO  See that + on the end -- takes the rtl8139 driver.
| > 
| > Doh!  As I was writing, I was having difficulty recalling which this
| > card took.  I was thinking this was tulip, and the non-plus one was
| > rtl8139.  My bad.  I see that someone else has suggested via-rhine.
| > The DE-530TX (no 'F') uses the via-rhine.  Use the rtl8139 for a 2.2
| > kernel and 8139too for the 2.4 kernel (you probably have 2.2).
| 
| My bad, just checked and I'm running DFE-530TX (NO +) with via-rhine :)

Oh, so the no-F one is the tulip?  I was way off.  It's never good to
have almost the same name for something so radically different!

-D



Re: Why need an MTA in the defualt install ??

2001-10-13 Thread Jeremy Zawodny
On Sat, Oct 13, 2001 at 07:39:17PM -0700, Marc Wilson wrote:
> How do you read your own e-mail?  Do you pop it from somewhere to the
> local box, or do you use fetchmail or maildrop or one of their relatives
> to dump it into the local mail spool?
> 
> Fetchmail and etc need a local MTA running because that's how they
> put mail into the spool.  There's one reason.

fetchmail can be told to deliver via procmail.  So no MTA is required
in that case--just an MDA.

Jeremy
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Re: rxvt & vi

2001-10-13 Thread Marc Wilson
It's not 'vim-runtime', it's 'vim-rt', and if you're using unstable it's
not even that, because unstable has moved on to Vim 6.0.

On Sat, Oct 13, 2001 at 05:28:15PM -0400, dman wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 14, 2001 at 03:53:44AM +0700, Mark Rompies wrote:
> | Hi...
> | 
> | First...
> | I wonder why my rxvt looks weird everytime I quit from vi? the rxvt window 
> | is full of every last commands and its output, and I can't find my cursor 
> | until i blindly type "clear" and press enter.
> | 
> | Second..
> | Everytime i use vi:
> | - i never see the "-INSERT-" (press "i", "o", "a" in command mode in vi) 
> | mark at the bottom of my screen noted that i'm in the insert mode? Why? I 
> | need it...How to show it up?
> | - i should press "i", "o", or "a" everytime i want to go to insert mode 
> | just after every move i've made to another line. why??
> 
> What vi clone are you using?  I like vim the best.  It shows the
> '-- INSERT --' text at the bottom.  You should press [iIoOaA] evey
> time you want to enter insert mode, but if you are already in insert
> mode, pressing them will naturally insert them into the document.  To
> install vim run
> 
> apt-get install vim-gtk vim-runtime
> 
> This will give you the console version ('vim') the GTK+ gui version
> ('gvim') and also the neat runtime support which includes syntax
> highlighting.
> 
> HTH,
> -D
> 
> 
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Re: Why need an MTA in the defualt install ??

2001-10-13 Thread Marc Wilson
How do you read your own e-mail?  Do you pop it from somewhere to the
local box, or do you use fetchmail or maildrop or one of their relatives
to dump it into the local mail spool?

Fetchmail and etc need a local MTA running because that's how they put
mail into the spool.  There's one reason.

Another reason is that the mail system is usually how cron processes
communicate with their owners.  Since they run asynchronously, without a
console, that's about the only way to get messages that might need a
response back to someone who can deal with them.  A log file is a poor
substitute for this... you have to remember to go look at it. ^_^

As for connecting to it from outside... that's harmless enough.  What
does it matter?  It's meant to be connected to from outside, so it's
secure enough.

On Sat, Oct 13, 2001 at 01:54:32PM -0400, Sunny Dubey wrote:
> hey,
> 
> why do most UNIX OS's ship with an MTA enabled in the default install??
> is there some [un]written rule of unix that I'm not aware of or something??
> 
> everytime I install debian, I always ponder why is exim being installed even 
> though I never seem to use it.  (For as long as I've used debian, no one but 
> root has had mail delivered to them, and those were very rare, and very 
> unimportant.)
> 
> Additionally, if the MTA is there for localhost reasons only, why can I 
> connect to it from another machine on the network??  
> 
> thanks for any info
> 
> Sunny Dubey
> 
> 
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Re: gotmail

2001-10-13 Thread Marc Wilson
On Fri, Oct 12, 2001 at 08:18:10AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> yep. that's my whole .procmailrc...if it's that incomplete maybe you can
> send me yours so I can figure out what's wrong with mine.

I'm not saying anything is wrong with yours... because I haven't seen
it. ^_^  What appeared on the list doesn't have any recipies in it...
all it has is variable settings and things like that.  I don't think
procmail is going to do anything other than leave things in your local
mailbox with it looking like that.

> user cat does exist on the local machine. mta used is exim/formail?

Run gotmail from a command prompt.  Tell it to be verbose.  See what it
does.

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RE: D-Link DFE-530TX+ Installation

2001-10-13 Thread Theo Wribe


> -Original Message-
> From: dman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: den 14 oktober 2001 03:31
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: D-Link DFE-530TX+ Installation
> 
> On Sat, Oct 13, 2001 at 04:47:23PM -0500, W. Paul Mills wrote:
> | [EMAIL PROTECTED] (dman) writes:
> | > On Sat, Oct 13, 2001 at 04:42:18PM -0400, Rong Fan wrote:
> [...]
> 
> | > | D-Link DFE-530TX+
> 
> | >
> [...]
> 
> | > tulip
> 
> [...]
> 
> | NO NO  See that + on the end -- takes the rtl8139 driver.
> 
> Doh!  As I was writing, I was having difficulty recalling which this
> card took.  I was thinking this was tulip, and the non-plus one was
> rtl8139.  My bad.  I see that someone else has suggested via-rhine.
> The DE-530TX (no 'F') uses the via-rhine.  Use the rtl8139 for a 2.2
> kernel and 8139too for the 2.4 kernel (you probably have 2.2).


My bad, just checked and I'm running DFE-530TX (NO +) with via-rhine :)



Re: Why need an MTA in the defualt install ??

2001-10-13 Thread Mark Lanett
From: "Dave Sherohman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> 1)  Go into /etc/inetd.conf, comment out all lines that mention
> "smtp" (there should only be one), and restart inetd
> (/etc/init.d/inetd restart).

I think this will do both of those steps:
/usr/sbin/update-inetd --disable smtp

~mark




Re: bad file

2001-10-13 Thread Robert Waldner

>> On Sat, 13 Oct 2001 12:01:40 PDT, Kevin writes:
>> >it looks like the filesystem is screwed up
>> >
>> >is there a way i can remove/fix this file remotely (ie no init 1)
>> >
>> >?-wS--x-w-  25830 3373684167 3802483123 14067798681382885448 Sep  2  1905 g
>uid
>> >e.it.html
>> 
>> Long shot: Have you tried `cat /dev/null >guide.it.html`?

On Sat, 13 Oct 2001 18:47:55 PDT, Kevin writes:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/share/doc/apt# cat /dev/null >guide.it.html
>su: guide.it.html: Permission denied

Another long shot: chmod.

Then I'm out of ideas other than unmounting and fsck'ing...

cheers,
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Re: booting W95 from a second harddrive with grub

2001-10-13 Thread Tim Moss
On Sat, 13 Oct 2001 17:51:52 -0400
"Bruce Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I believe that you are getting too complicated. Windows is, indeed, 
> not very flexible but I am not sure that the comments in this thread 
> are either correct or relevant to the real problem. 

Complicated? Yes (not our fault). Correct and relevant? Yes. See below

> What happens is the passing of control from the MBR to the first 
> sector of each partition which then boots the OS in that partition. 
> Once the MBR has passed control to the boot record of another 
> partition, Windows cares no more than any other OS which 
> physical disk or which partition it is on provided always that the 
> Windows tools have declared its partition bootable. 

Not true, at least not for Windows 95. 
http://www.v-com.com/support/sup_os95.html
(from the makers of the excellent System Commander since Microsoft's
Website doesn't seem to want to fess up to this)
"The boot portion of Windows 95 can only be installed onto the first
physical drive. The Windows 95 boot record always reads sectors from the
first physical hard drive, and will behave unpredictably when booted
from another physical hard drive."
"Windows 95 cannot be installed into an extended or logical partition.
It will only boot from a Primary FAT partition."
 
> Please excuse the brisk tone of this message. My overall approach 
> is: K.I.S.S. --- Keep it simple, ... Do let me know if the suggestion 
> works. 

Like pretty much everything else that does not come from Redmond,
K.I.S.S. is not compatible with Windows :-)



Re: bad file

2001-10-13 Thread Kevin
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/share/doc/apt# cat /dev/null >guide.it.html
su: guide.it.html: Permission denied

and as for just trying to rm it, i already showed i cant do that

> On Sat, 13 Oct 2001 12:01:40 PDT, Kevin writes:
> >it looks like the filesystem is screwed up
> >
> >is there a way i can remove/fix this file remotely (ie no init 1)
> >
> >?-wS--x-w-  25830 3373684167 3802483123 14067798681382885448 Sep  2  1905 
> >guid
> >e.it.html
> 
> Long shot: Have you tried `cat /dev/null >guide.it.html`?
> 
> cheers,
> &rw
> -- 
> -- NT is 'more secure' in so far as, if your average cracker screws
> -- around with it very much, an NT system tends to remove itself
> -- from the network rather promptly. -- ?, some CERT guy
> 
> 



Re: concerning ext3fs

2001-10-13 Thread Vineet Kumar
* Vineet Kumar ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [011012 08:48]:
> * Hall Stevenson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [011010 12:36]:
> > > Thanks for the hint; I hadn't yet noticed mine. Perhaps
> > > a better solution is to specify "ext3,ext2" in /etc/fstab
> > > instead of auto?
> > 
> > Is that a valid option for fstab ?? I'll let you try it and
> > report back... How's that ?? ;-)

Rebooted. Works fine. It's now my formal recommendation: use "ext3,ext2"
to specify the fstype for an ext3 partition in /etc/fstab. This will
allow it to be mounted as ext3 if possible, or ext2 by non-ext3-aware
kernels. (It's better than using 'auto' because it's more specific (less
chance of unexpected results) and updatedb skips partitions whose type
is listed as 'auto' in fstab.)

good times,

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Re: bad file

2001-10-13 Thread Robert Waldner

On Sat, 13 Oct 2001 12:01:40 PDT, Kevin writes:
>it looks like the filesystem is screwed up
>
>is there a way i can remove/fix this file remotely (ie no init 1)
>
>?-wS--x-w-  25830 3373684167 3802483123 14067798681382885448 Sep  2  1905 guid
>e.it.html

Long shot: Have you tried `cat /dev/null >guide.it.html`?

cheers,
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Re: D-Link DFE-530TX+ Installation

2001-10-13 Thread dman
On Sat, Oct 13, 2001 at 04:47:23PM -0500, W. Paul Mills wrote:
| [EMAIL PROTECTED] (dman) writes:
| > On Sat, Oct 13, 2001 at 04:42:18PM -0400, Rong Fan wrote:
[...]

| > | D-Link DFE-530TX+

| >
[...]

| > tulip

[...]

| NO NO  See that + on the end -- takes the rtl8139 driver.

Doh!  As I was writing, I was having difficulty recalling which this
card took.  I was thinking this was tulip, and the non-plus one was
rtl8139.  My bad.  I see that someone else has suggested via-rhine.
The DE-530TX (no 'F') uses the via-rhine.  Use the rtl8139 for a 2.2
kernel and 8139too for the 2.4 kernel (you probably have 2.2).

-D



Re: First time Custom Kernel help - No suck file of directory

2001-10-13 Thread Jerome Acks Jr

John Purser wrote:







2. Once upon a time I ran across a tutorial on building a custom Kernel the
debian way but I can no longer find it.  Has anyone seen a good one they
could steer me to?



If you have done so already, install kernel-package; then look at README 
in /usr/share/doc/kernel-package.


I hope this helps.
--
Jerome



Re: apt 0.5.4: preferences file

2001-10-13 Thread Bruce Miller
Jens, Thanks for the ideas. In fact, today, I did a Google search on 
``/etc/apt/preferences" and got many of the same results. My 
German is not as good as my Scandinavian languages (I did post-
graduate study in Sweden and later married a Norwegian-American 
whom I met while she was majoring in Scandinavian studies) so I 
read the articles in English, French and Danish before venturing 
into the German.

The other problem was that the Google results suggested that the 
apt_preferences system appears to have taken the developers 
some time to debug. There were a lot of ``unintended 
consequences" during the process. More recently, a number of 
user messages picked up by the Google search seem to have had 
trouble understanding the process. I am not surprised. I did too.

The following appears to accomplish exactly what I am looking for --
namely to update packages downloaded from testing with testing 
updates and to update packages downloaded from unstable with 
unstable updates but not to transfer anything from testing to 
unstable without explicit user intervention.

Package: *
Pin: release a=testing
Pin-Priority: 777
 
Package: *
Pin: release a=unstable
Pin-Priority: 333

Thanks again for the help.

On 13 Oct 2001, at 21:34, Jens Benecke wrote:

> 
> http://www.google.com/search?q=apt%20preferences%20testing%20unstable
> 
> 
> Well, save yourself and ask Google. First hit. 
> Number four (Linux User FAQ) is actually from one of my web sites. ;)



XFree86 nolisten option: Debian specific or general?

2001-10-13 Thread Karsten M. Self
I've been engaged in an extended offline discussion with an individual
on the topic of running remote X applications under Debian.  Getting
beyond security concerns involved, the -nolisten flag of XFree86 is one
of the blocks he's stumbled over.  Discovering the 'man' command appears
to be another

My question:  is setting the -nolisten flag in /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc
a Debian-specific default, or has this been more widely adopted in other
GNU/Linux distributions and/or XFree86v4?

Thanks.

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Re: Re. Star Office 6

2001-10-13 Thread T. Tilton
Hello sheine,

I am not sure what qualifies for serious work.  I have been using
StarOffice 5.2 since it came out for serious and productive work
without nearly the amount of lost work as I had previously with
any MS office product.  It's not perfect but it is more reliable
than MS products I have spent years pulling my hair out over.

I installed SO6.0 on one of my machines (Debian Potato 2.2.17)
and have begun to play a little with it.  To do so, after I
down loaded the file (something.bin)  I had to do a 

chmod +x  so-6.something.bin 

and then 

./so-6.something.bin  (sorry I don't remember the full name)

and the whole install process started and completed in under
five minutes.  It all worked fine after that.

I suggest that, since this is a beta release, the license states
what it does because it is exactly that...beta software.

I hope this helps.

T. Tilton


sheine wrote:
> 
> Tommi Komulainen wrote:
> 
> Just a thought, you weren't planning to do anything productive with, or
> did you?  If you did, guess you'd better reconsider:
> 
> This message caused me to reconsider the several years that I have fooled 
> around with linux. Maybe it is just a computer game, not a serious tool. It 
> doesn't crash like Windows, but no matter how well things are going, a new 
> problem always arises. In the absence of good documentation, the best way to 
> solve a problem is to go to this web site. But a tool is something that works 
> when you need it and doesn't continuously call attention to itself.
> 
> I suppose that this will offend real linux enthusiasts for whom building 
> linux is the goal. However, for ordinary people like me, what is wanted is a 
> reliable tool at least as good as Windows, without subservience to Microsoft.
> 
> I shall continue to play the linux game, but regrettably depend on Windows 
> for serious work. Would that it were otherwise.
> 
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Re: Re. Star Office 6

2001-10-13 Thread Alan Shutko
sheine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Tommi Komulainen wrote:

>> Just a thought, you weren't planning to do anything productive
>> with, or did you?  If you did, guess you'd better reconsider:

> This message caused me to reconsider the several years that I have
> fooled around with linux. Maybe it is just a computer game, not a
> serious tool.

Linux is not the tool for all needs right now, and Star Office is not
the only tool on Linux.

First, the SO6 beta is a beta.  One should not depend on a beta for
production needs on any platform.  It's always better to have a stable
baseline for production use, even if it may be more buggy in some ways
than the latest beta: at least you know the bugs in the stable release
and can work around them.

Second, there are lots of other tools which are stable under Linux.
I've been getting work done for 7 years using Linux.  In general, I
don't use Office apps much... as a software developer under Unix and
relatives, I don't need to very often.  For my personal documentation
needs, LaTeX is ideal.  For work, where MS Office reigns supreme and I
need to transfer docs back and forth all the time, MS is the only
option, unfortunately.  No other office suite, under any platform,
does round tripping without diminishing my productivity.  Free tools
such as Gnumeric and Abiword, however, do meet my needs for document
display, so I don't need to pump up VMware unless I need to edit.

Your needs are likely to be unique to you, and what works well for one
person may not for you.  But for many people Linux is already ready
for serious work.  It may need more time learning how to fit within
its worldview, but usually rewards with increased reliability and
flexibility.

-- 
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Re: linuxworld: shutting down application when window closes

2001-10-13 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Sat, Oct 13, 2001 at 05:12:38PM +0800, ramsubs ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> greetings all.
> 
> i came across this article in linuxworld.com:
> http://www.linuxworld.com/ic_706716_6995_1-3133.html
> ---
> The DA's Office Goes Digital
> At the Queens County District Attorney's Office, keeping track of all the
> documents associated with the 50,000 criminal cases it processes each year
> is a family affair. There, necessity is the mother of invention, funding is
> the father, and the prodigal child turns out to be a penguin.
> 
> "One of the very few technical problems that arose with the Linux OS and the
> custom interface stemmed from Linux's tendency to leave an application
> running even when the application's window is closed. In Windows, closing
> the window usually shuts down the application," said a much-enlightened
> Kevin Hansen, ImageWork's president. Until ImageWork discovered and fixed
> this quirk, users inadvertently launched multiple copies of the Linux
> database and experienced some odd results. "
> --
> 
> can anyone throw any light on this matter?

A frequent issue in poor client/server application design.  A similar
issue faces users of SAS (http://www.sas.com/) in which remote sessions
launched with SAS/CONNECT and SAS/SHARE remain open if not explicitly
logged off.  The result is a slow DoS self-inflicted attack as server
load climbs.  This has been an open issue with SAS for well over five
years, and is common to *all* platforms on which the product runs.

Peace.

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debug messages while logged out

2001-10-13 Thread Gary Turner
I'm a wintel appliance operator, so you can imagine my confusion at
seeing the following on the screen of my logged off Debian/Linux box:

DEBUG:  --Relation pg_shadow--

   DEBUG:  Pages 1: Changed 0, Reappend 1,
Empty 0, New 0; Tup 1: Vac 0, Keep/VTL 0/0, Crash 0, Unused 1, MinLen
80, MaxLen 80; Re-using: Free/Avail. Space 8096/0; EndEmpty/Avail. Pages
0/0. Elapsed 0/0 sec.
DEBUG:  --Relation pg_rules--
(same variable names, all values "0")
DEBUG:  --Relation pg_views--
(ditto)
DEBUG:  --Relation pg_tables--
(more of the same)
DEBUG:  --Relation pg_indexes (sic)
(deja vu all over again)

The barber-poling suggests another two, or more, messages have scrolled
off screen.  I did check /var/log/debug and ./debug.0 and found only
references to changing discs during installation.

There are no background tasks running.  At least non that I know about.

Installation of Debian 2.2 from a 3 disc set was done dark and early a
couple of days ago onto a Dell PIII, 733mHz, 64meg box.  Video is
onboard Intel 810e chipset.

I just went through the Q&A and put in everything.  X did not configure
as this chipset was not found.  Until I get it onto the net, I'll try to
figure out some low res generic.  I mention this because X, and no modem
are the only exceptions to the set-up.

If more info is  needed, let me know (and where to find it, ha).

gt



LPRng.deb package failure when apt-get upgrade from woody

2001-10-13 Thread Jeremy
I consistently get this problem when I install a new system and apt-get 
update from woody. the system gets all the packages and when it comes 
time to unpack and install LPRng it fails and exits with a error status 
2. I think this needs to be fixed.




Re: [DEB] Re: *total* switch of CapsLock and Ctrl

2001-10-13 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Sat, Oct 13, 2001 at 01:23:22AM -0400, Paul M Foster ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 11, 2001 at 11:01:33PM -0700, Vineet Kumar wrote:
> 
> > * Eugene Tyurin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [011011 17:59]:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Hello,
> > > 
> > > I would like to remap CapsLock and LeftCtrl keys on my system - not
> > > only for X, but also for console system-wide.  Obviously, I have to do
> > > better than .Xmodmap.  
> > > 
> > > I tried using loadkeys(1) with /usr/share/keymaps/i386/include/ctrl.inc
> > > but it didn't seem to change anything...
> > > 
> > > What should I change in my setup?
> > 
> 
> X and the console are total separate. I can't help you with X, but on
> every system I install, I swap the caps lock and control keys. You have
> to find the keymap file for your system. On mine, it's
> 
> /usr/share/keymaps/i386/qwerty/us.kmap.gz
> 
> In that file, find keycodes 29 and 58 and swap them. That is, decompress
> and edit the file so those two keycodes are swapped. Recompress. Then
> you can copy that file to /etc/console-tools/default.kmap.gz.

I use a slightly different strategy.  As you can include files in keymap
files, I include the default, then make the switch.  This makes the
modification more visible.  My own /etc/console-tools/default.kmap.gz
(uncompressed ;-):


# us.map
include "/usr/share/keymaps/i386/qwerty/us.kmap.gz"
# include "us.kmap"
strings as usual

# Swap 29 and 58
#keycode  29 = Control
keycode  29 = Caps_Lock
#keycode  58 = Caps_Lock
keycode  58 = Control

# fix backspace
keycode  14 = BackSpace


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Re: howto avoid connection reset by peer with ssh

2001-10-13 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Wed, Oct 10, 2001 at 04:51:25PM -0300, Alejandro Diego Garin ([EMAIL 
PROTECTED]) wrote:
> hello linuxfriends:
> 
> The firewall of my company is reseting my conections with ssh when is idle 3 
> minutes or something like these.
> How  can I prevent this with the ssh client on my Linux? I need to send every 
> 2 minutes a "x" caracter to don't lose my session
> 
> On my windoze machine I am using SecureCRT , and I was set an automatic idle 
> prevent send a "\n" every 2 minutes. 
> I need the same!
> 
> any suggestions?

$ man ssh
/keepalive

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Re: bad file

2001-10-13 Thread Wayne Topa
Kevin([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
> it looks like the filesystem is screwed up
> 
> is there a way i can remove/fix this file remotely (ie no init 1)
> 
> ?-wS--x-w-  25830 3373684167 3802483123 14067798681382885448 Sep  2  1905 
> guide.it.html
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/share/doc/apt# rm guide.it.html
> rm: cannot unlink `guide.it.html': Operation not permitted
> 

well if you did 
ls /usr/share/doc/apt/guide.it.html you would see it is a directory.

As I don't speak Italian I did 
rm -rf /usr/share/doc/apt/guide.it.html and got rid of the whole
directory.  Is that what you wanted to do?

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nothing.
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Re: Shouldbe EASY?

2001-10-13 Thread Michael P. Soulier

No idea. modules.dep should be built automagickally, but if you want to
build it manually, run "depmod -a". 

Mike

On Sat, Oct 13, 2001 at 11:37:58AM +, forrest curo wrote:
> All right, this would not have happened had there been kernel images for
> potato (or an obvious link thereto) near the basic potato distribution
> folder, but the critter IS running, as long as I log in at various alt-F1
> to alt-F6s and leave it awaiting commands on  some of them.
> 
> But there's no obvious place to defnurgle /etc/inittab or whatever other
> configuration file I need to defnurgle, to stop this lonesome modprobe that
> scrolls all over my screen looking for its lost "modules.dep".
> 
> (It begins during the boot process & continues until I've logged on and
> gotten the critter awaiting commands, then returns if I give it one on the
> wrong terminal, WHILE a command is executing, and also when I log out or
> shut down.
> 
> This is no doubt a valuable learning experience, but can someone please let
> me know WHAT I'll need to learn for this & where to look for it?
> 
> Forrest Curo
> San Diego
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Enlightenment theme Customization...

2001-10-13 Thread Adam Kessel
On Sat, Oct 13, 2001 at 06:28:57PM -0400, Stephen Gran wrote:
> http://www.themes.org used to be quite good for this sort of thing, but
> they seem to be down right now.  You could try

The site seems to work if you go to http://classic.themes.org.  Some of the
links are broken, in that case you just need to change them to classic.  For
example, sawfish.themes.org and sawmill.themes.org are down, but
sawmill.classic.themes.org works.  Some of the links *within* the latter
point to the former, so you need to replace it with the 'classic' inserted.
It's a pain in the butt but there are a lot of themes there!  

--Adam


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Re: Enlightenment theme Customization...

2001-10-13 Thread Stephen Gran
Thus spake Ricardo Diz:
> 
> Hi there!
> 
> I'm trying to change some defaults in theme BlueSteel for Enlightenment, 
> specially the borders. I mean, I know I can change them for any window I want 
> and then use the remember option, but I want it to be the default with 
> BlueSteel.
> 
> BTW, where can I get I "Do-a-theme-yourself-HOWTO" for enlightenment?
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> Ricardo Diz
http://www.themes.org used to be quite good for this sort of thing, but
they seem to be down right now.  You could try
http://www.enlightenment.org/pages/main.html although I haven't looked
through to see if they tell you step by step.  
Good luck,
Steve


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RE: D-Link DFE-530TX+ Installation

2001-10-13 Thread Theo Wribe
Use via-rhine it will work.

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of W. Paul Mills
> Sent: den 13 oktober 2001 23:47
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: D-Link DFE-530TX+ Installation
> 
> 
> 
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (dman) writes:
> 
> > On Sat, Oct 13, 2001 at 04:42:18PM -0400, Rong Fan wrote:
> > | Hello,
> > | my ethernet card(D-Link DFE-530TX+) wasn't recognized during
> installation. what should i
> > | do to make it work? any advice is welcome.
> >
> > Run 'modconf' and pick the tulip driver.  Then see 'man interfaces'
> > for information on editing /etc/network/interfaces to set up the
> > logical part of the network connection.  For example :
> >
> > Static IP, load at boot time :
> >
> > auto eth0
> > iface eth0 inet static
> > address 192.168.0.6
> > netmask 255.255.255.0
> > gateway 192.168.0.1
> >
> >
> > Dynamic IP, load at boot time :
> >
> > auto eth0
> > iface eth0 inet dhcp
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> NO NO  See that + on the end -- takes the rtl8139 driver.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: date gives tomorrows date

2001-10-13 Thread John Hasler
Faheem Mitha writes:
> if you don't have dialup but have an always-on connection like with dsl
> or cable modem, then you are better off using the ntp package, which runs
> a daemon and periodically contacts an ntp server.

And if you _do_ have a dialup you are better off using the chrony package,
which does the same thing as ntp but works well with a dialup.  The
postinst installs the necessary script and the default configuration works
out of the box (though I suggest that you replace the default timeserver
with one near you).
-- 
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mozilla cut and paste not working

2001-10-13 Thread xucaen
anyone else having problems with Mozilla's cut and paste? I should be able to 
highlight it
and paste it into another window using the middle button. it works for 
everything else
and worked for netscape.
Has this happened to anyone else?

thanks!!

xucaen



Re: bzip2 brings ppp to its knees?

2001-10-13 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sun, 14 Oct 2001, csj wrote:
> Anybody else had a similar experience? I can compile without my meager 
> 56K connection stalling. But with a running bzip2 process ppp traffic 
> becomes so abysmal I even get disconnected.

You have a proper modem, or one of those 'software modems' aka win/linmodem
POS?

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  them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond
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bzip2 brings ppp to its knees?

2001-10-13 Thread csj
Anybody else had a similar experience? I can compile without my meager 
56K connection stalling. But with a running bzip2 process ppp traffic 
becomes so abysmal I even get disconnected.

-- 
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"If I have seen further, it is by standing on the shoulders of giants."



Re: date gives tomorrows date

2001-10-13 Thread Faheem Mitha


On Sat, 13 Oct 2001, Tony wrote:

>
> Potato 2.2.19 Linux only box. I'm having a problem with the dates.
> $date Sun Oct 14 03:58:09 EST 2001 <- is tomorrow $date -u Sat Oct 13
> 17:59:40 UTC 2001 <- is correct have checked the date in the BIOS is
> ok. have tried UTS=yes and UTS=no in the /etc/default/rcS and it is
> still the same. Anyone know how get the right date?

I think the issue is that the hardware clock and the system are not in
sync.

A crude but effective way of making all these problems go away is by
running ntpdate in your dialup script (I'm assuming dialup) and then
synchronising to the hardware clock.

Install ntpdate (apt-get install ntpdate), and put a script called ntpdate
in /etc/ppp/ip-up.d as follows (put a local ntp server in place of
clock1.unc.edu). See http://www.eecis.udel.edu/~mills/ntp/servers.htm for
a list of public ntp servers and use one that is close to you on the net.

if you don't have dialup but have an always-on connection like with dsl or
cable modem, then you are better off using the ntp package, which runs a
daemon and periodically contacts an ntp server.

   Sincerely, Faheem Mitha.

#!/bin/sh

#invoke ntpdate to set time from system clock
if [ -x /usr/sbin/ntpdate ]; then
/usr/sbin/ntpdate -s -t 5 clock1.unc.edu
/sbin/hwclock --systohc
fi



Re: D-Link DFE-530TX+ Installation

2001-10-13 Thread W. Paul Mills



[EMAIL PROTECTED] (dman) writes:

> On Sat, Oct 13, 2001 at 04:42:18PM -0400, Rong Fan wrote:
> | Hello,
> | my ethernet card(D-Link DFE-530TX+) wasn't recognized during installation. 
> what should i
> | do to make it work? any advice is welcome.
> 
> Run 'modconf' and pick the tulip driver.  Then see 'man interfaces'
> for information on editing /etc/network/interfaces to set up the
> logical part of the network connection.  For example :
> 
> Static IP, load at boot time :
> 
> auto eth0
> iface eth0 inet static
> address 192.168.0.6
> netmask 255.255.255.0
> gateway 192.168.0.1
> 
> 
> Dynamic IP, load at boot time :
> 
> auto eth0
> iface eth0 inet dhcp





NO NO  See that + on the end -- takes the rtl8139 driver.










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*  For God so loved the world that He gave his only begotten Son,  *
*  that whoever believes in Him should not perish...John 3:16  *
 



Re: booting W95 from a second harddrive with grub

2001-10-13 Thread Bruce Miller
I believe that you are getting too complicated. Windows is, indeed, 
not very flexible but I am not sure that the comments in this thread 
are either correct or relevant to the real problem. 

What one needs is a good boot manager in the MBR of the first 
hard disk on the system. GRUB is an excellent boot manager for 
this purpose and, to my thinking, it is more intuitive than LILO. 

I believe that the crux of the problem is that ae.roy's GRUB 
command line was too complicated. 

What happens is the passing of control from the MBR to the first 
sector of each partition which then boots the OS in that partition. 
Once the MBR has passed control to the boot record of another 
partition, Windows cares no more than any other OS which 
physical disk or which partition it is on provided always that the 
Windows tools have declared its partition bootable. These tools 
vary from one release of Windows to another but they do not 
restrict you to making only the first partition bootable. 

Assuming that ae.roy keeps his Linux on /dev/hda and Windows95 
on /dev/hdb, this is accomplished with the following simple 
command: 

title = Windows 95 chainloader = (hd1, 0)+1 

(N.B. in GRUB, *everything* is numbered from 0. Thus the first 
partition record of the second physical hard disk is (hd1, 0) and its 
boot sector is (hd1, 0)+1 ) 


On my system, GRUB runs from a Caldera boot partition. In 
addition, I boot Windows 2000 plus two other Debian Linux 
distributions from GRUB using this simple chainloader syntax. 
Each of the two other Linux installations have LILO in the boot 
records of their respective partitions. 


There was a reference in the original message in the title line to 
``Windows NT". If there is an NT partition in this system, then this 
example syntax might not apply. BTW, Microsoft did not write the 
Windows NT boot manager. It is the OS/2 boot manager; Microsoft 
licensed it. 


Please excuse the brisk tone of this message. My overall approach 
is: K.I.S.S. --- Keep it simple, ... Do let me know if the suggestion 
works. 


On 13 Oct 2001, at 13:23, dman wrote: 


Date forwarded: Sat, 13 Oct 2001 13:38:51 -0400 (EDT) 
Date sent:  Sat, 13 Oct 2001 13:23:21 -0400 
From:   dman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org 
Subject:Re: booting W95 from a second harddrive with grub 
Forwarded by:   debian-user@lists.debian.org 


On Sat, Oct 13, 2001 at 10:08:38AM -0700, Tim Moss wrote: 
| On Sat, 13 Oct 2001 12:08:38 -0400 
| "ae roy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
| 
| > I have lying about a 120MB drive, very old, with W95 on it, and 
I'm 
| > trying to 
| > boot it using grub, but it doesnt work. This is 
what I have in my grub 
| > fi 
| > le 
| > 
| 
| Windows' system partition has to be on the first disk. 


Yeah, windows isn't flexible at all. 


| With lilo, you can use the 
| disk= 
|   bios= 
| options (see man lilo.conf) to "switch" the disks around. I don't 
know | if grub has a similar option but it might be something to look 
for. 


Yes, grub has the 'map' and 'hide' commands, but they only work if 
the BIOS supports mapping drives.  The easiest thing is to put the 
windows disk first and the linux one second because linux is nice 
and flexible and won't complain about it (just be sure and update 
your menu.lst and fstab first so they point to the right disks).  


HTH, 
-D 




netatalk from source problem.

2001-10-13 Thread bert
Hello all --
I'm attempting to build netatalk from its source package, due to the
fact that the binary package doesn't seem to support encrypted passwords. I
keep getting an error after doing:

debian/rules binary

debian/rules build works fine and completes without any noticeable errors.
When I do debian/rules binary though, I get an error stating:

dpkg-shlibdeps -pnetatalk debian/build/netatalk/usr/bin/*
debian/build/netatalk/usr/sbin/*

unable to open 'debian/build/netatalk/usr/bin/hqx2bin' for test at
/usr/bin/dpkg-shlibdeps line 79

I'm pretty new with Debian, and don't yet have a full grasp of how packaging
works, so I'm stumped. I assume it's checking the binaries for dependencies
before packing everything up, but when I look in the
debian/build/netatalk/usr/bin directory, everything is just a symbolic link
to a nonexistent file called "megatron".

Is this something wrong with the package, or am I doing something wrong. For
some background, I simply downloaded the source and diffs to /usr/src with
apt-get source netatalk. After that I uncommented the Makefile line pointing
to the DES libraries and stuck the libraries in. I'm running 2.4.9 with
appletalk compiled in...but I'm sure that doesn't matter...the binary
version is running fine as I speak and as I said...it builds fine. Just wont
package...so tell me this is a simple problem and I'm just dumb and I'll be
happy :-)

Thank you very much for any help,
Brian Boucheron.



Re: lynx-ssl: Alert! HTTP 1.0 400 bad request; Not with other browsers

2001-10-13 Thread Shaul Karl
> Shaul Karl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Package: lynx-ssl
> > Version: 2.8.4.2-1
> > 
> > Does the following a lynx bug or is there a way to get lynx behave like
> > other browsers?
> 
> It could be a Lynx bug, certainly. Whether or not one should
> dub some behaviour in a brower's interaction with html a bug is
> too complicated a subject for me but following one of the links
> you referred to in "Links" (another text based browser with
> this very silly name) worked ok. so at least you could say that
> Lynx is less fault tolerant than "Links" in this instance.
> 


It is certainly a modified behavior on the part of lynx. Those links used to 
work with lynx until recently. More over, there are more examples of this sort 
on eBay site.
After reading your message I tend to believe that the problem started with one 
of the recent versions of lynx:

[23:36:39 tmp]$ zgrep '+0200' /usr/share/doc/lynx-ssl/changelog.Debian.gz 
|head -5
 -- Christoph Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  Thu, 30 Aug 2001 
11:13:27 +0200
 -- Adrian Bunk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  Mon, 20 Aug 2001 21:45:53 +0200
 -- Adrian Bunk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  Sat, 18 Aug 2001 16:22:26 +0200
 -- André Dahlqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  Wed, 13 Jun 2001 05:45:56 +0200
 -- Christoph Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  Wed, 13 Jun 2001 
20:00:05 +0200
[23:36:51 tmp]$ 


> > Reproducing the problem: 
> > 
> > 1. Go to http://www.ebay.com
> > 2. In the search box have something reasonable, say tv.
> > 3. Hit Find It.
> > 4. You should get a list of suggested items.
> > 5. Randomly choose one of the items.
> > 
> > Now try following the link marked as `view seller's other auctions'.
> > 
> > This results in an error screen. Prior to the error screen there is
> > an error message at the status line at the bottom of the screen, saying
> > 
> > Alert! HTTP 1.0 400 bad request.
> 
> Lynx either inserts or does not strip a space between the
> "&userid=" and the actual identity in the referring url so in
> Lynx for instance such a url may look like this:
> 
> http://cgi2.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid= gypsyseller
> 
> Note the space between the '=' and 'gypsyseller'.
> 
> You can remedy the situation by hitting 'E' while staying on
> the link to edit it and then remove the space.
> 
> I'll send your message to lynx-dev to see if anyone has any
> comments.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Morten
> 
> 
> -- 
> "To create man was a quaint and original idea, but to add the sheep 
>   was tautology."  (Mark Twain)
> 
> 
> -- 
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> with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 

-- 

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paache+php wiht postgres or mysql

2001-10-13 Thread A. Demarteau \(linux rules!\)
hi,
which of the (see topic) namde database system woudl work best in
conjunction with apache and php 4?


---
Andor Demarteau
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
---



Re: where can I get older versions of debs?

2001-10-13 Thread Tarjei Huse
> > Where can I get the debs?
 
> I actually don't know if the old debs are still available anywhere, but
> you ought to still have them yourself if you had that version installed
> previously. Look in /var/cache/apt/archives. It should be there unless
> you've deleted it.
D**. Ok, does anyone feel like posting the 4.0.6-6 debs for php4 somewhere I can
download them?

Tarjei



Perl CPAN maodule usinf passive ftp?

2001-10-13 Thread Stan Brown
How can I prsuade the perl CPAN module to use Debians passive mode ftp?

Is the a environment varibale that I can set theat will tell all ftp tasks,
suchs as ncftp to do the same?

-- 
Stan Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]843-745-3154
Charleston SC.
-- 
Windows 98: n.
useless extension to a minor patch release for 32-bit extensions and
a graphical shell for a 16-bit patch to an 8-bit operating system
originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor, written by a 2-bit 
company that can't stand for 1 bit of competition.
-
(c) 2000 Stan Brown.  Redistribution via the Microsoft Network is prohibited.



netscape and debian stable

2001-10-13 Thread xucaen
a very strange thing happened to my system today. I am running debian 2.2r3
and netscape 4.76. Everything ran fine untill today when for no apparent
reason Netscape began locking up my keyboard. The mouse still worked and
all my running programs still worked, but no keyboard. This only happened when 
I ran netscape.

Has this happened to anyone else or does anyone know what might be happening?

thanks!

xucaen





Re: rxvt & vi

2001-10-13 Thread dman
On Sun, Oct 14, 2001 at 03:53:44AM +0700, Mark Rompies wrote:
| Hi...
| 
| First...
| I wonder why my rxvt looks weird everytime I quit from vi? the rxvt window 
| is full of every last commands and its output, and I can't find my cursor 
| until i blindly type "clear" and press enter.
| 
| Second..
| Everytime i use vi:
| - i never see the "-INSERT-" (press "i", "o", "a" in command mode in vi) 
| mark at the bottom of my screen noted that i'm in the insert mode? Why? I 
| need it...How to show it up?
| - i should press "i", "o", or "a" everytime i want to go to insert mode 
| just after every move i've made to another line. why??

What vi clone are you using?  I like vim the best.  It shows the
'-- INSERT --' text at the bottom.  You should press [iIoOaA] evey
time you want to enter insert mode, but if you are already in insert
mode, pressing them will naturally insert them into the document.  To
install vim run

apt-get install vim-gtk vim-runtime

This will give you the console version ('vim') the GTK+ gui version
('gvim') and also the neat runtime support which includes syntax
highlighting.

HTH,
-D



Re: where can I get older versions of debs?

2001-10-13 Thread Craig Dickson
Tarjei Huse wrote:

> I whant to revert back to the 4.0.6-6 version of php4 in unstable.
> Where can I get the debs?

I actually don't know if the old debs are still available anywhere, but
you ought to still have them yourself if you had that version installed
previously. Look in /var/cache/apt/archives. It should be there unless
you've deleted it.

Craig



Re: D-Link DFE-530TX+ Installation

2001-10-13 Thread dman
On Sat, Oct 13, 2001 at 04:42:18PM -0400, Rong Fan wrote:
| Hello,
| my ethernet card(D-Link DFE-530TX+) wasn't recognized during installation. 
what should i
| do to make it work? any advice is welcome.

Run 'modconf' and pick the tulip driver.  Then see 'man interfaces'
for information on editing /etc/network/interfaces to set up the
logical part of the network connection.  For example :

Static IP, load at boot time :

auto eth0
iface eth0 inet static
address 192.168.0.6
netmask 255.255.255.0
gateway 192.168.0.1


Dynamic IP, load at boot time :

auto eth0
iface eth0 inet dhcp


HTH,
-D



Re: how to get Skipstone

2001-10-13 Thread Hans Steinraht

That was simple, I downloaded the single package.
Then apt-get install skipstone and its working now.

Yhank you very much.
Hans



On Sat, Oct 13, 2001 at 10:21:46PM +, Hans wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I just started with Debian and now I want to install Skipstone on it.
> The problem is now that whatever I try I get message from apt-get install 
> like the one underneath.
> This is a message when I did apt-get install skipstone, but when I the try to 
> get mozilla I messages just like this one.
> 
> I'm running Blackbox on Debian unstable, is it maybe not possible to install 
> Skipstone on this version?
> 
> 
>   Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
>   requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
>   distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
>   or been moved out of Incoming.
> 
>   Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that
>   the package is simply not installable and a bug report against
>   that package should be filed.
>   The following information may help to resolve the situation:
> 
>   Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies:
>   skipstone: Depends: libstdc++3 (>= 1:3.0.2-0pre010908) but it is not 
> installable
>  Depends: libmozilla
>  Depends: libnspr4 (>= 2:0.9.1-0.1) but it is not going to be 
> installed
>  Depends: mozilla-mailnews (>= 2:0.9.1-0.1) but it is not going 
> to be installed
>   E: Sorry, broken packages
> 
> thanks,
> Hans
> 
> 
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where can I get older versions of debs?

2001-10-13 Thread Tarjei Huse
Hi,

I whant to revert back to the 4.0.6-6 version of php4 in unstable. Where can I
get the debs?

Tarjei



Re: Maximum mount count?

2001-10-13 Thread John Carline
Petre Daniel wrote:

> so like,after 2,3 days at start up it stops and it runs fsck i
> believe..just as if i unplugged my pc.how can i make it not to
> check my fs ?it says "maximum mount count.." and it runs
> fsck..Dani

man tune2fs

check out the -c option

John

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rxvt & vi

2001-10-13 Thread Mark Rompies
Hi...

First...
I wonder why my rxvt looks weird everytime I quit from vi? the rxvt window 
is full of every last commands and its output, and I can't find my cursor 
until i blindly type "clear" and press enter.

Second..
Everytime i use vi:
- i never see the "-INSERT-" (press "i", "o", "a" in command mode in vi) 
mark at the bottom of my screen noted that i'm in the insert mode? Why? I 
need it...How to show it up?
- i should press "i", "o", or "a" everytime i want to go to insert mode 
just after every move i've made to another line. why??

thx a lot...
I really need it...



Re: Security Update

2001-10-13 Thread Sean Quinlan
--- Mark Rompies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (2001-10-13 21:30):
> I've just use Debian for the first time in my life. I want to upgrade the 
> applications or anything to mmake it more secure (i think it will use apps 
> >from security.debian.org). The problem is very simple:
> 
> what commands should i type from the console to update the security fixes 
> for a/any package(s)? Could i use apt-get?

Edit /etc/apt/sources.list and add the following line:

deb http://security.debian.org stable/updates main contrib non-free

Then run apt-get update && apt-get upgrade.  Any packages that have
been updated with security fixes will be upgraded.

You might want to subscribe to the debian-security-announce list as
well, to get notified when security fixes are applied.

Cheers,
Sean

-- 
Sean Quinlan ([EMAIL PROTECTED])



D-Link DFE-530TX+ Installation

2001-10-13 Thread Rong Fan
Hello,
my ethernet card(D-Link DFE-530TX+) wasn't recognized during installation. what 
should i
do to make it work? any advice is welcome.
thanks in advance.
Best regards,
 Roam




Re: Security Update

2001-10-13 Thread David Raeker-Jordan
Mark Rompies wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> I've just use Debian for the first time in my life. I want to upgrade the 
> applications or anything to mmake it more secure (i think it will use apps 
> from security.debian.org). The problem is very simple:
> 
> what commands should i type from the console to update the security fixes 
> for a/any package(s)? Could i use apt-get?
> 

Add the following to /etc/apt/sources.list

#From debian weekly news July 18, 2001
deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security potato/updates main contrib 
non-free
deb http://security.debian.org/debian-non-US potato/non-US main contrib non-free

Then run apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade

-- 
David Raeker-Jordan
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Harrisburg, PA, USA



Re: Why need an MTA in the defualt install ??

2001-10-13 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Sat, Oct 13, 2001 at 02:55:46PM -0400, dman wrote:
> | Additionally, if the MTA is there for localhost reasons only, why can I 
> | connect to it from another machine on the network??  
> 
> I guess it listens to port 25 (SMTP) by default.  This can surely be
> disabled, or firewall rules can be added so connections to that port
> are ignored.

Indeed it can, in just two easy steps:

1)  Go into /etc/inetd.conf, comment out all lines that mention
"smtp" (there should only be one), and restart inetd
(/etc/init.d/inetd restart).

2)  `update-rc.d -f exim remove`

Step 1 prevents inetd from starting exim in response to port 25
connections and step 2 prevents exim from being run as a daemon.
Most programs that send local notifications will still work, since
they invoke sendmail (which, on a default debian install is a link to
exim) on the command line instead of connecting to port 25.

-- 
When we reduce our own liberties to stop terrorism, the terrorists
have already won. - reverius

Innocence is no protection when governments go bad. - Mr. Slippery



Re. Star Office 6

2001-10-13 Thread sheine

Tommi Komulainen wrote:


Just a thought, you weren't planning to do anything productive with, or
did you?  If you did, guess you'd better reconsider:

This message caused me to reconsider the several years that I have fooled 
around with linux. Maybe it is just a computer game, not a serious tool. It 
doesn't crash like Windows, but no matter how well things are going, a new 
problem always arises. In the absence of good documentation, the best way to 
solve a problem is to go to this web site. But a tool is something that works 
when you need it and doesn't continuously call attention to itself.

I suppose that this will offend real linux enthusiasts for whom building linux is the goal. However, for ordinary people like me, what is wanted is a reliable tool at least as good as Windows, without subservience to Microsoft. 


I shall continue to play the linux game, but regrettably depend on Windows for 
serious work. Would that it were otherwise.





Re: Security Update

2001-10-13 Thread Tarjei Huse
You must add a line in your sources list that points to security.debian.org.
Then you can use apt-get 



Mark Rompies wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> 
> I've just use Debian for the first time in my life. I want to upgrade the
> applications or anything to mmake it more secure (i think it will use apps
> from security.debian.org). The problem is very simple:
> 
> what commands should i type from the console to update the security fixes
> for a/any package(s)? Could i use apt-get?
> 
> thx..
> 
> --
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obtaining makemap [postfix]

2001-10-13 Thread Darren Wyn Rees
Where do I find 'makemap' to use with Postfix ?  What package ?

Looking at an OpenBSD box I have here, the makemap seems
to have come from Sendmail... but I'm not sure.

Thanks.

-- 
Darren Wyn Rees [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Security Update

2001-10-13 Thread Mark Rompies
Hi!

I've just use Debian for the first time in my life. I want to upgrade the 
applications or anything to mmake it more secure (i think it will use apps 
from security.debian.org). The problem is very simple:

what commands should i type from the console to update the security fixes 
for a/any package(s)? Could i use apt-get?

thx..



Enlightenment theme Customization...

2001-10-13 Thread Ricardo Diz

Hi there!

I'm trying to change some defaults in theme BlueSteel for Enlightenment, 
specially the borders. I mean, I know I can change them for any window I want 
and then use the remember option, but I want it to be the default with 
BlueSteel.

BTW, where can I get I "Do-a-theme-yourself-HOWTO" for enlightenment?

Thanks in advance,
Ricardo Diz


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Re: how to get Skipstone

2001-10-13 Thread Ross Burton
> Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies:
>   skipstone: Depends: libstdc++3 (>= 1:3.0.2-0pre010908) but it is not
installable
>  Depends: libmozilla
>  Depends: libnspr4 (>= 2:0.9.1-0.1) but it is not going to be
installed
>  Depends: mozilla-mailnews (>= 2:0.9.1-0.1) but it is not
going to be installed
> E: Sorry, broken packages

Try running apt-get install libstdc++3 and seeing why that cannot be
installed.

Ross



how to get Skipstone

2001-10-13 Thread Hans
Hi,

I just started with Debian and now I want to install Skipstone on it.
The problem is now that whatever I try I get message from apt-get install like 
the one underneath.
This is a message when I did apt-get install skipstone, but when I the try to 
get mozilla I messages just like this one.

I'm running Blackbox on Debian unstable, is it maybe not possible to install 
Skipstone on this version?


Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.

Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that
the package is simply not installable and a bug report against
that package should be filed.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies:
skipstone: Depends: libstdc++3 (>= 1:3.0.2-0pre010908) but it is not 
installable
 Depends: libmozilla
 Depends: libnspr4 (>= 2:0.9.1-0.1) but it is not going to be 
installed
 Depends: mozilla-mailnews (>= 2:0.9.1-0.1) but it is not going to 
be installed
E: Sorry, broken packages

thanks,
Hans



Re: gnumeric and mozilla fonts

2001-10-13 Thread Harvey Kelly
Sorry, sorry, sorry.

Two minutes after sending this e-mail I searched under  gnumeric and
fonts, and I got the solution.

Sorry - I'll try to be a bit more patient!

Harvey

On Sat, Oct 13, 2001 at 08:44:38PM +0100, kellyh wrote:
> Hello everybody,
> 
> I know this is an old topic, but can anyone remind me of the *subject*
> for upgrading to XFree 4.1 and GTK/Mozilla fonts going haywire?
> Actually it is only Gnumeric and Mozilla that have freaked out - AbiWord
> is still fine.
> 
> I've searched under different combinations of GTk fonts upgrade but to
> no avail.  Please guide me...
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Harvey



gnumeric and mozilla fonts

2001-10-13 Thread Harvey Kelly
Hello everybody,

I know this is an old topic, but can anyone remind me of the *subject*
for upgrading to XFree 4.1 and GTK/Mozilla fonts going haywire?
Actually it is only Gnumeric and Mozilla that have freaked out - AbiWord
is still fine.

I've searched under different combinations of GTk fonts upgrade but to
no avail.  Please guide me...

Thanks

Harvey



PHP4 downgrade.

2001-10-13 Thread Tarjei Huse
Hi,

I'm running unstable, but have relixed that the latest php4 debs contain an api
related bug so I cannot install Midgard, a CMS system. 

Is there a "downgrade" function in the apt-get system? I'd like to go back to
the last 4.0.6 release.

Yours
Tarjei Huse



OT: Hello and 1st Question

2001-10-13 Thread Brad R
He's naming the releases off characters from Toy Story?  Now I'm scared.
That's almost as bad as the way we used to name computers at where I worked.
We used the names of old TV detectives, which was tough when I took over
because the only one I recognized was Columbo.  I had to ask others what the
next name should be whenever I set up a computer and was considering
changing to something I knew.  When a new boss took over, he nixed that
naming system, though, into a lifeless system of function and number
(yuck!).  I'm glad to see there's life out there.

Thank you everyone for helping to clear this up for me.  For the time being
I'm going to stick to Potato while I continue learning basics.  I need a
stable environment so I can work day-to-day while getting used to it.  I did
manage to install KDE into it, which I love.  I'll be trying Woody in a VM
created by VMWare sometime.

Thanks again for your help.  I'm sure I'll be posting more questions soon.

Brad R.



-Original Message-
From: Steve Kowalik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2001 4:17 AM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Hello and 1st Question


At  3:32 am, Friday, October 12 2001, Robert L. Harris mumbled:
> Debian has 3 distrubitions I guess you'd say.
>
> The current "stable" distribution of Debian Linux (gnu/linux) is named
Potato.
> The current "testing, soon to be stable" distribution is named Woody.  At
some
> point in the future Woody will replace Potato as stable and a new unstable
> will be named (Buz is next I think but don't remember).
> The current "unstable, may be put into testing" is named Sid.
>
No, this is incorrect.
Woody will replace Potato, yes, but a new unstable will not be named.
Unstable (which you forgot) is called sid, will always be called sid, and
releases drop out of sid into testing.
The new testing's name is not set in stone, and AJ (the Release Manager)
hasn't even watched Toy Story to see which one to pick.

--
Steve
BOFH excuse #47: Complete Transient Lockout



bad file

2001-10-13 Thread Kevin
it looks like the filesystem is screwed up

is there a way i can remove/fix this file remotely (ie no init 1)

?-wS--x-w-  25830 3373684167 3802483123 14067798681382885448 Sep  2  1905 
guide.it.html

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/share/doc/apt# rm guide.it.html
rm: cannot unlink `guide.it.html': Operation not permitted

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/share/doc/apt# mv guide.it.html bad.file
mv: `guide.it.html' has unknown file type






Re: Why need an MTA in the defualt install ??

2001-10-13 Thread dman
On Sat, Oct 13, 2001 at 01:54:32PM -0400, Sunny Dubey wrote:
| hey,
| 
| why do most UNIX OS's ship with an MTA enabled in the default install??
| is there some [un]written rule of unix that I'm not aware of or something??

Daemon type programs (such as cron) notify the admin of errors via
email.  Since the program is not run directly by the admin from a
shell printing to stdout is useless.

| everytime I install debian, I always ponder why is exim being installed even 
| though I never seem to use it.  (For as long as I've used debian, no one but 
| root has had mail delivered to them, and those were very rare, and very 
| unimportant.)

root should never get mail, since you should not login as root to read
mail.  Instead the user names of the admin(s) should be specified in
/etc/aliases so that they get the mail that was addressed to root.

| Additionally, if the MTA is there for localhost reasons only, why can I 
| connect to it from another machine on the network??  

I guess it listens to port 25 (SMTP) by default.  This can surely be
disabled, or firewall rules can be added so connections to that port
are ignored.

HTH,
-D



Shouldbe EASY?

2001-10-13 Thread forrest curo
All right, this would not have happened had there been kernel images for
potato (or an obvious link thereto) near the basic potato distribution
folder, but the critter IS running, as long as I log in at various alt-F1
to alt-F6s and leave it awaiting commands on  some of them.

But there's no obvious place to defnurgle /etc/inittab or whatever other
configuration file I need to defnurgle, to stop this lonesome modprobe that
scrolls all over my screen looking for its lost "modules.dep".

(It begins during the boot process & continues until I've logged on and
gotten the critter awaiting commands, then returns if I give it one on the
wrong terminal, WHILE a command is executing, and also when I log out or
shut down.

This is no doubt a valuable learning experience, but can someone please let
me know WHAT I'll need to learn for this & where to look for it?

Forrest Curo
San Diego




Re: what music players?

2001-10-13 Thread Dave Thayer
On Sat, Oct 13, 2001 at 08:35:25PM +0200, Petre Daniel wrote:
> Heya,what music players at console except mpg123?

For a nice full-screen console player try mp3blaster.

dt.

-- 
Dave Thayer   | If trees could scream, would we be so cavalier about
Denver, Colorado USA  | cutting them down? We might, if they screamed all
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | the time, for no good reason. - Jack Handey



Re: ADSL startup and non-root users

2001-10-13 Thread Jakob B. Jensen

While specialized tools like pon are fine for their special
cases, Debian and other UNIX systems also have some different,
generally usable way of granting normal users the right to
perform some specific command as root, given roots prior
permission. 

For Debian systems I would recommend the super package.

Step by step instructions:

1. Install package super

2. Figure out which command you would do as root to bring
up / down the line.

3. Edit /etc/super.tab to specify the command and which users
may run it.

4. ln -s /usr/bin/super /usr/local/bin/yourcommand

5. Now those listed can type

$ yourcommand

to run the configured command line as root.


Hope this helps


Jakob


On Sat, Oct 13, 2001 at 09:21:00AM +0200, Iam wrote:
> Hi at all,
> I'm using a Woody Linux distribution.
> I want to know if it's possible to give non-root users 
> access to the Internet through ADSL connection in the
> same way as they can pon/poff a normal PSTN connection.
> In fact I, as a root user, use pon dsl-provider to 
> connect to the Internet but even if I add a normal user
> to the dip group (so he can use the pon command) he 
> cannot connect to the Net.
> I think this is a ethx access permission trouble so this
> is my question:
> how can I permit to a normal user pon/poff an ADSL
> connection as if it was a simple analog modem connection 
> without gaining root privileges ?
> 
> Thanks a lot.
> 
> Luca De Giorgi  



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do not consider it a binding commitment, even if its phrasing may
indicate so. Its contents may be deliberately or accidentally untrue.
Trademarks and other things belong to their owners, if any.



Re: lynx-ssl: Alert! HTTP 1.0 400 bad request; Not with other browsers

2001-10-13 Thread Morten Bo Johansen
Shaul Karl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Package: lynx-ssl
> Version: 2.8.4.2-1
> 
> Does the following a lynx bug or is there a way to get lynx behave like
> other browsers?

It could be a Lynx bug, certainly. Whether or not one should
dub some behaviour in a brower's interaction with html a bug is
too complicated a subject for me but following one of the links
you referred to in "Links" (another text based browser with
this very silly name) worked ok. so at least you could say that
Lynx is less fault tolerant than "Links" in this instance.

> Reproducing the problem: 
> 
> 1. Go to http://www.ebay.com
> 2. In the search box have something reasonable, say tv.
> 3. Hit Find It.
> 4. You should get a list of suggested items.
> 5. Randomly choose one of the items.
> 
> Now try following the link marked as `view seller's other auctions'.
> 
> This results in an error screen. Prior to the error screen there is
> an error message at the status line at the bottom of the screen, saying
> 
> Alert! HTTP 1.0 400 bad request.

Lynx either inserts or does not strip a space between the
"&userid=" and the actual identity in the referring url so in
Lynx for instance such a url may look like this:

http://cgi2.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid= gypsyseller

Note the space between the '=' and 'gypsyseller'.

You can remedy the situation by hitting 'E' while staying on
the link to edit it and then remove the space.

I'll send your message to lynx-dev to see if anyone has any
comments.


Regards,

Morten


-- 
"To create man was a quaint and original idea, but to add the sheep 
  was tautology."  (Mark Twain)



Why need an MTA in the defualt install ??

2001-10-13 Thread Sunny Dubey
hey,

why do most UNIX OS's ship with an MTA enabled in the default install??
is there some [un]written rule of unix that I'm not aware of or something??

everytime I install debian, I always ponder why is exim being installed even 
though I never seem to use it.  (For as long as I've used debian, no one but 
root has had mail delivered to them, and those were very rare, and very 
unimportant.)

Additionally, if the MTA is there for localhost reasons only, why can I 
connect to it from another machine on the network??  

thanks for any info

Sunny Dubey



RE: Maximum mount count?

2001-10-13 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry

On 13-Oct-2001 Petre Daniel wrote:
> so like,after 2,3 days at start up it stops and it runs fsck i believe..
> just as if i unplugged my pc.how can i make it not to check my fs ?
> it says "maximum mount count.." and it runs fsck..
> Dani

after a certain number of successful mount a filesystem gets checked as a
precaution.  Nothing to worry about.



Re: linuxworld: shutting down application when window closes

2001-10-13 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
> I know this happpens in Java using AWT or Swing - in the basic GUI Hello
> World program you can make a window appear.  Pressing the close button
> closes the window but the program continues running, as the programmer did
> not catch the window closing event and quit the application.  Code has to be
> written so that the programmer can close connections and open files, write
> data to disk, etc, before the application closes.
> 

another possibility is a GUI written as a frontend to a daemon/console utility
that tries to run something but never kills it.



Re: what music players?

2001-10-13 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include 
Petre Daniel wrote on Sat Oct 13, 2001 um 08:35:25PM:
> Heya,what music players at console except mpg123?

splay, mpg321, ogg123, play (from sox package), bplay, midiplay,
timidity.

Gruss/Regards,
Eduard.
-- 
Linux rebootet man in drei Fällen:
Neuer Kernel, neue (Board-)Hardware, neue Partition angelegt

Aber Windows rebootet man auch in drei Fällen:
Schutzverletzung, Bluescreen, keinen Bock...



Re: Minimum Potato Files

2001-10-13 Thread csj
On Saturday 13 October 2001 09:58, Brooks R. Robinson wrote:
> Hey, this question has been asked before, and no one gave imo
> a really good answer.  What is the minimum installation debs?  There
> are two schools of thought.  First, the packages listed in
> basecont.txt in the disks- contained in the base file.  The
> other is that once you reboot during installation, select advanced
> setup, enter dselect, escape out, and take what's given.  One might
> think that they would be the same.
> So, I took the liberty of doing a fresh install with disk 1
> of the 2.2r3 dist.  At the prompt to choose simple/advanced, I
> switched consoles and did a 'dpkg -l > dpkg_pre.txt', then I entered
> dpkg, hit escape, installed the packages, and then did a 'dpkg -l >
> dpkg_post.txt'!  I also did a df -k and a df -l.
> Well, it turns out that there are 79 packages in the base
> dist, but once you go in and out of dselect, you end up with 169
> packages.  It takes up about 220M of space.
> Attached is a tar.gz file that has the details.  By the way,
> if you are planning to make CD-ROM's with the base packages, I
> suggest installing apt-move and rsync into a base installation.  Then
> you can do an 'apt-move sync' that will fetch all the gory details
> and create a mirror of the packages installed in your base system.
>  It does all the dirty work with the packages files, etc.

I believe the minimum is zero (no debs).

-- 
Sir Isaac Newton:
"If I have seen further, it is by standing on the shoulders of giants."



wwwoffle bugfix

2001-10-13 Thread andrea gelmini
hi all,
I use wwwoffle a lot so I need a version without bugs (in particular
the problem with compressed pages).
Well, I applied the patches founded in wwwoffle homepage, which fix
four important bugs in latest release of this program (some of
them are also open bugs in debian bug track system), and made a
NO-DEBIAN NO-OFFICIAL NO-MAINTAINER packages of wwwoffle.
You can find here:
http://www.gelma.net/wwwoffle_2.6d-3_i386.deb

hope this help,
andrea gelmini



Re: QuickTime

2001-10-13 Thread csj
On Saturday 13 October 2001 15:20, Francois Gouget wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Oct 2001, dooshiant wrote:
> > http://openquicktime.sourceforge.net/
> >
> > I don't know much Spanish but I guess that's what you're looking
> > for. :-)
>
>Or you could also have a look at CrossOver (I don't know Spanish
> either). It's not open source but it will let you view Sorenson
> movies too.
>
>http://www.codeweavers.com/products/crossover/
>
>
>You will also be able to use other Windows plugins like Shockwave
> and the Word/Excel and Powerpoint viewers.
>
>(disclaimer: I work for CodeWeavers)

Well, is there a difference between CrossOver and simply running the 
Apple QuickTime player under wine?

-- 
Sir Isaac Newton:
"If I have seen further, it is by standing on the shoulders of giants."



Re: Star Office 6

2001-10-13 Thread Tommi Komulainen
On Sat, Oct 13, 2001 at 06:11:08AM -0700, sheine wrote:
> I have downloaded all the files for Star Office 6, but haven't the 
> slightest idea of how to install them. The guide describes a method that 
> relates to the CD version. All the files are of the form *.bin. Does 
> anybody know what to do next?

Just a thought, you weren't planning to do anything productive with, or
did you?  If you did, guess you'd better reconsider:

3.0 LICENSE RESTRICTIONS
[...]
3.4 Licensee shall have no right to use the Licensed Software for
productive or commercial use.


You did read the license agreement of course, right? :)

I think I prefer OpenOffice, if I really *really* need to edit Word
documents...


-- 
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apt 0.5.4: preferences file

2001-10-13 Thread Bruce Miller
I put in a lot of effort yesterday studying the man pages for apt and 
apt_preferences as well as the APT HOWTO which is buried deep 
in the Debian website.

To no avail. apt turned up its nose at my feeble attempt to write a 
preferences file. I usually beat my head against the brick wall until I 
figure out obscure documentation but on this one, the patience isn't 
forthcoming.

Rather than ask help, if someone has a smoothly functioning 
/etc/apt/preferences file which they would be willing to share, 
please e-mail it to me ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and I will use it 
to figure out where I went wrong on the concepts.



what music players?

2001-10-13 Thread Petre Daniel



Heya,what music players at console except 
mpg123?
thx.
Dani.


Maximum mount count?

2001-10-13 Thread Petre Daniel



so like,after 2,3 days at start up it stops and it runs 
fsck i believe..
just as if i unplugged my pc.how can i make it not to 
check my fs ?
it says "maximum mount count.." and it runs 
fsck..
Dani


Re: booting W95 from a second harddrive with grub

2001-10-13 Thread dman
On Sat, Oct 13, 2001 at 10:08:38AM -0700, Tim Moss wrote:
| On Sat, 13 Oct 2001 12:08:38 -0400
| "ae roy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| 
| > I have lying about a 120MB drive, very old, with W95 on it, and I'm
| > trying to 
| > boot it using grub, but it doesnt work. This is what I have in my grub
| > fi
| > le
| > 
| 
| Windows' system partition has to be on the first disk. 

Yeah, windows isn't flexible at all.

| With lilo, you can use the
| disk=
|   bios=
| options (see man lilo.conf) to "switch" the disks around. I don't know
| if grub has a similar option but it might be something to look for.

Yes, grub has the 'map' and 'hide' commands, but they only work if the
BIOS supports mapping drives.  The easiest thing is to put the windows
disk first and the linux one second because linux is nice and flexible
and won't complain about it (just be sure and update your menu.lst and
fstab first so they point to the right disks).

HTH,
-D



Re: apt-get dist-update problem

2001-10-13 Thread dman
On Sat, Oct 13, 2001 at 07:03:50PM +0200, Søren Neigaard wrote:
| Saturday, October 13, 2001, 5:42:09 PM, dman wrote:
| 
| d> On Sat, Oct 13, 2001 at 04:32:19PM +0200, Søren Neigaard wrote:
| d> | Saturday, October 13, 2001, 4:08:53 PM, dman wrote:
| d> | 
| | d>> On Sat, Oct 13, 2001 at 03:21:54PM +0200, Søren Neigaard wrote:
| | d>> | I just did a apt-get dist-update to testing, and it killed my X.
| | d>> | Why?
| d> | 
| | d>> Probably because you didn't configure X after the upgrade.
| d> |
| d> | Ok and how do I do this?
| 
| d> When I installed X4 (install, not upgrade) recently debconf asked me a
| d> bunch of questions, then generated a config file.  The config file is
| d> named /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 by default so that you can have
| d> simultaneous X3 and X4 installs.  
| 
| d> With X4 the config is built-in, you don't need a separate program.
| d> Run "X -configure" from a console (you might need the full path to X,
| d> I'm not sure) and it will autoprobe and generate the file.  This
| d> didn't quite work for me on one machine (el-cheapo SiS6326 card).  I
| d> got a config file, but it didn't work.  I manually edited the
| d> generated config file to have the same options as my old X3 config
| d> file, and everything worked fine.
|
| No matter if I run startx or X -configure, I get: "X: cannot stat
| /etc/X11/X (no souch file or directory), aborting"
| 
| I guess that's where my problem is.

Yeah, that would be a problem.  If I look at my system, I see the
following files that appear relevant :

lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   22 Sep  8  2001 /etc/X11/X -> 
/usr/X11R6/bin/XFree86

-rwsr-sr-x1 root root 7436 Sep 17  2001 /usr/bin/X11/X

-rwxr-xr-x1 root root  1507548 Sep 17  2001 /usr/bin/X11/XFree86

lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   12 Sep 25  2001 /usr/bin/X11 -> 
../X11R6/bin/


I think /usr/bin/X11/X is just a small wrapper program that loads some
config from /etc/X11 and then runs the real X server.  The X server is
identified by the /etc/X11/X symlink, and in my case it is
/usr/X11R6/bin/XFree86.  This is the binary from xserver-xfree86
4.1.0-6.

Try creating that symlink, and see if it helps.  You could also try
just running the real X server directly,
/usr/X11R6/bin/XFree86 -configure

| When I did apt-get, I had some problems with a Danish ftp mirror in
| sources.list, but I solved this by using debian.org. Do you think
| there could have gone something wrong anyway, and that's why I'm
| having problems? And if so, how do I fix it, can I ask apt-get to
| reinstall?

apt-get remove xserver-xfree86
apt-get install xserver-xfree86

To "reinstall" the package.  This doesn't always work so well because
other stuff might get removed due to dependencies.  To simply
reconfigure the package,

dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86

HTH,
-D



Re: /sbin/ipchains: host/network `domain.name' not found - SOLVED

2001-10-13 Thread George Karaolides

Sorry to be posting a followup to my own question, but I solved this.

I was using ipmasq to set up rules which needed to resolve external
domain names before actually allowing external traffic... A bit stupid,
but there it is.

Putting my rules in post-processing rules files:

/etc/ipmasq/P30internal.rul 
/etc/immasq/P90external.rul

which are executed after the internal and external input files in which I
initially put them:

/etc/ipmasq/I30internal.rul
/etc/ipmasq/I90external.rul

solved it.

> I'm running Debian GNU-linux 2.2r3 (potato) and trying to set up firewall
> rules with sources and destinations specified as domain names rather than
> IP addresses.
> 
> The problem is that ipchains returns an error:
> 
> /sbin/ipchains: host/network `domain.name' not found
> Try `/sbin/ipchains -h' or '/sbin/ipchains --help' for more information.
> 
> The host this is running on can resolve the domain names OK.
> 
> Anyone know what could be wrong?
> 
> Thanks and best regards,
> 

George Karaolides   8, Costakis Pantelides St.,
tel:   +35 79 68 08 86   Strovolos, 
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   Nicosia CY 2057,
web:   www.karaolides.com  Republic  of Cyprus





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