Re: pb boot après compilation

2001-10-21 Thread Christophe «CHiPs» PETIT
Sergio a écrit :
 
 Bonsoir,
 
 Merci à François et Guillaume pour leur aide ou proposition, mais j'ai
 fait radical : j'ai supprimé (à jamais) de mon premier DD winbeurk sur
 lequel j'ai réinstallé ma debian. Par contre est-ce que je pourrais faire
 une passerelle vers l'autre disque dur pour récupérer quelques softs ou
 données perso (même si tout cela n'est pas très important) ?
 
 J'en profite pour en poser une autre petite : j'ai voulu compilé le 
 2.4.8
 sans trop réfléchir, mais y a-t-il un bon noyau stable dans la série 2.4.x

ajoutes à ton /etc/apt/sources.list :

# *** Adrian Bunk (noyau 2.4.x)
deb http://people.debian.org/~bunk/debian potato main
deb-src http://people.debian.org/~bunk/debian potato main

puis :

# apt-get update
# apt-get dist-upgrade
# apt-get install kernel-image-2.4.9-xxx

J'avais expliqué quoi mettre pour xxx il y quelques jours sur cette 
liste.

 ? Après ce que j'ai lu ces jours derniers sur la liste je me demande si
 c'est une bonne idée ?

Chez moi, ça marche !

Hop !

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IMAP Serveur

2001-10-21 Thread Antonin Hily

Salut à tous,

quelqu'un aurait-il mis en place un serveru IMAP ?
si oui, lequel ?
comment ?

etc...

je prends toutes les infos...

merci

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wrapper pour flash?

2001-10-21 Thread Charles Plessy
Bonjour à tous,

Il me semblait avoir vu un paquet debian qui s'occupe d'installer flash
et/ou shockwave (si ce n'est pas la même chose), mais je ne retrouve rien
sur packages.debian.org...

Comment faites-vous chez vous pour installer ce bazar.

Question subsidiaire à ceux qui peuvent vivre sans flash : comment faire
pous que des miriades de fenêtres ne s'ouvrent pas à chaque visite sur un
site flash? (avec konqueror)

Charles



Re: wrapper pour flash?

2001-10-21 Thread Hervé
On Sun, Oct 21, 2001 at 04:32:47PM +0200, Charles Plessy wrote:
 Bonjour à tous,
 
 Il me semblait avoir vu un paquet debian qui s'occupe d'installer flash
 et/ou shockwave (si ce n'est pas la même chose), mais je ne retrouve rien
 sur packages.debian.org...
 
 Comment faites-vous chez vous pour installer ce bazar.


apt-get install flashplayer

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Mise à jour de ALSA

2001-10-21 Thread Sébastien Plante



Bonjour,

J'ai installé Libranet 1.9.1 sur mon portable Toshiba. 
Vraiment très trèsbien!!! Ximian Gnome, Kernel 2.4.3, et Xfree 4 et le 
reste en potato. Une bonne alternative en attendant Woody... Par contre, la 
version de ALSA (0.5.10b) sur cette distribution ne supporte pas ma carte de son 
(CS4281). J'ai donc installé, à partir des sources, alsa-lib, 
alsa-drivers, alsa-utils. J'ai suivi les instructions du readme: ./configure, 
make, make install, ./snddevices, etc. Lorsque je démarre alsaconf, je vois bien 
que la version à été mise à jour à 0.5.11, mais la choix des pilotes ne 
semble pas avoir été mis à jour. Pas de "cs4281" et pourtant, cette version est 
supposé supporter bien ce pilote. Ai-je oublié une étape lors de l'installation? 
Comment installer ce nouveau pilote?

Merci,

Sébastien Plante


Re: Sobre popularity-contest

2001-10-21 Thread Juan \(Casa\)
Andres Seco Hernandez wrote:
 
 ¿No molaría saber de una muestra más extensa cuanta gente usa un paquete?

Buenas. Pues uno mas que se lo ha instalado, a ver si sirve para algo
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Xfree 4.1.0 en Potato

2001-10-21 Thread thecrow
Voy a instalar las xfee 4.10 de
http://people.debian.org/~cpbotha/xf410_potato/ y luego los drivers de
nvidia oficiales, me gustaria saber si hay algun bug o algun cosa que
deberia saber antes de instalarlos.
Gracias y saludos



Re: Xfree 4.1.0 en Potato

2001-10-21 Thread Jesus Angel del Pozo
thecrow([EMAIL PROTECTED])@21.10.2001 13:54:28 +:
 Voy a instalar las xfee 4.10 de
 http://people.debian.org/~cpbotha/xf410_potato/ y luego los drivers de
 nvidia oficiales, me gustaria saber si hay algun bug o algun cosa que
 deberia saber antes de instalarlos.
Hola.

Yo lo he hecho hace unos días y no he observado ningún bug. Para
instalar las XFree86 4.1 puse las líneas que dice Botha en el sources
list. Después apt-get update y después el upgrade.

También tuve que instalar alguno de los paquetes que indica en los
ficheros READ.THIS, concretamente el libfreetype y alguno más que ahora
no recuerdo.

Después configuras el XF86Config-4 con el xf86config. Por último
instalas los drivers de nvidia.

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apt-get dist-upgrade cuelga ordenador?

2001-10-21 Thread Carles Pina i Estany

Hola

Tengo un amigo con Debian Sid y Kernels actuales (2.4.10, 2.4.12...)

Últimamente se le ha colgado dos veces la máquina, siempre en medio de un
apt-get dist-upgrade

No le damos la culpa al apt-get, pero es curioso (actualiza 2 veces per
semana)

Estamos pensando (bueno, él más bien) que las dos veces tenía las x-window
ejectuandose, y las dos veces habia actualizaciones de los paquetes de
x-window. Podría ser que colgasen la máquina? (cuando dice colgada, es que
hay un mp3 y no suena ni este, el mouse no se mueve, etc...)

A alguien más le ha pasado?

Gracias!


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Re: Imap Cyrus + Procmail + Postfix

2001-10-21 Thread Alberto
OK
que yo sepa, no se trata de una limitación de Procmail, pues cuando se trata
de formato Maildir, dice que con añadir al final la barra en la ruta de
entrega, ya entiende...

ii  procmail   3.15.2-1   Versatile e-mail processor.
ii  postfix0.0.19991231pl A mail transport agent
ii  cyrus-admin1.5.19-2   Cyrus mail system (administration tool)
ii  cyrus-common   1.5.19-2   Cyrus mail system (common files)
ii  cyrus-imapd1.5.19-2   Cyrus mail system (IMAP support)

estas son las versiones.

el procmail dejó de funcionar en cuanto el transporte en Postfix se
especificó como Cyrus y no con el que tenia por defecto, que imagino que era
SMTP.
en principio no he visto referencias a Procmail en la documentacion de Cyrus
y viceversa.



la verdad es que tendrias que dar mas datos
yo uso postfix + maildrop + courier.
uso el maildrop en lugar de procmail porque maildrop soporta maildir, claro
que yo se lo especifique en tiempo
de compilacion, no se si se pueda hacer cuando ya esta compilado.
se que las versiones nuevas de procmail tambien soportan maildir, pero no se
a partir de cuando ni como se
configura asi que no te puedo dar muchos detalles al respecto.

saludos, diego.

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Donde guarda el KDE la sesion salvada?

2001-10-21 Thread 31
Cuando sales de KDE te pregunta si quieres guardar los cambios, ¿donde guarda 
las aplicaciones que tenías abiertas para luego abrirlas al volver a entrar?
He cerrado diciendo que me guardase los cambios, y me ha guardado un 
konqueror fantasma cuando arranco, me aparece un rato en la barra de tareas 
cargando y luego desaparece. Me da la pinta de que lo ha guardado y siempre 
se arranca otra vez y como desaparece no puedo cerrarlo para que no lo guarde 
para la próxima.



Re: Xfree 4.1.0 en Potato

2001-10-21 Thread MaX
On Sunday 21 October 2001 14:07, Jesus Angel del Pozo wrote:
 thecrow([EMAIL PROTECTED])@21.10.2001 13:54:28 +:
  Voy a instalar las xfee 4.10 de
  http://people.debian.org/~cpbotha/xf410_potato/ y luego los drivers de
  nvidia oficiales, me gustaria saber si hay algun bug o algun cosa que
  deberia saber antes de instalarlos.

 Hola.

 Yo lo he hecho hace unos días y no he observado ningún bug. Para
 instalar las XFree86 4.1 puse las líneas que dice Botha en el sources
 list. Después apt-get update y después el upgrade.

yo tambien tengo los paquettes de la 4.1 de cpbotha, pero non consiguo que me 
funcione las funtes TT... como la reglaste?


ciao,
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Re: duda con dos tarjetas de red.

2001-10-21 Thread MaX
lo esplico mejor... el gateway esta concectado a internet!

gateway
192.168.1.1
ppp0.

ciao,
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php4-cgi y cgiwrap

2001-10-21 Thread seezov
antes de escribir al manteiner queria saber si alguin tubo el mismo
problema. Instale' php4-cgi y cgiwrap (tengo proposed-updates in
sources). php4-cgi funciona. cgiwrap funciona. Los dos juntos no
funcionan. Es decir: si uso un escript en php4 con #!/usr/bin/php4
etc... funciona bien. Si uso un script en perl con cgiwrap funziona
perfectamente. Si trato di usar el escript en php con cgiwrap, el
browser me da' un monton de simboilos raros..(unas de las primeras
letras son ELF..)

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Re: Xfree 4.1.0 en Potato

2001-10-21 Thread thecrow
 yo tambien tengo los paquettes de la 4.1 de cpbotha, pero non consiguo que me
 funcione las funtes TT... como la !ar!reglaste?

Pues acabo de instalar las Xfree4 y despues de bastantes problemas que
he conseguido solucionar, pues lo de las TTF ha sido lo mas facil del
mundo.

Con las antiguas 3.3.6 tenia el servidor xfstt y parece ser que funciona
=mente con las 4.1.0.
Salu2



ciscoooo works o programa similarrr

2001-10-21 Thread NIXO



Hola
Consultaa alguien no tien el cisco works para linux 
o para wi

salud2


Re: duda con dos tarjetas de red.

2001-10-21 Thread MaX
On Sunday 21 October 2001 07:38, you wrote:
 MaX, [EMAIL PROTECTED]:56:03(+0200):
 gateway
 192.168.1.1

  Asumiré que aquí falta un interface, el de internet.

si me la olvidava :-)

 pero si hago ping 192.168.10.11 (el clientB) no me contesta nadie. (el
 cable està bien)

  Firewall?  Pon un sniffer en la B para ver si le llegan.

por el momento no hay firewall activado.
he puesto Ethereal...

entendido!!  :-)

fue el cable difectoso con un malo contacto...  ya está!!
resuelto!!!

ciao!
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Re: Xfree 4.1.0 en Potato

2001-10-21 Thread MaX
On Sunday 21 October 2001 19:44, thecrow wrote:

 Pues acabo de instalar las Xfree4 y despues de bastantes problemas que
 he conseguido solucionar, pues lo de las TTF ha sido lo mas facil del
 mundo.

 Con las antiguas 3.3.6 tenia el servidor xfstt y parece ser que funciona
 =mente con las 4.1.0.
 Salu2

esto es el problema con la 4.03 xftt va muy bién pero con la 4.1 no... 
que raro!!

esto lo he hecho en agusto, quisas que la versión que he probado estaba mal?

ciao,
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Re: Desinstalar wu-ftpd en potato

2001-10-21 Thread MaX
On Thursday 18 October 2001 23:55, Hue-Bond wrote:
  Acabo de  desinstalar dicho  daemon y cuál  es mi  sorpresa que
  todavía se está ejecutando! :^o.

  Un /etc/init.d/wu-ftpd  stop no  hace nada porque  al principio
  verifica si  el ejecutable todavía  está ahí. Como el  paquete está
  desinstalado, el ejecutable  no está y como el  ejecutable no está,
  el script wu-ftpd no hace nada más, o sea el servidor sigue activo.

  Lo mandaría  como bug  pero probablemente mi  versión no  es la
  última así que  sería ignorado sin remordimientos  :^). Sólo posteo
  por informar a la comunidad potatera.


killall wu-ftpd ??

tu lo disinstalast pero sin ante cerrar el daemon.
en teoria el paquete de instalación tendria que apagar el daemon, peró esto 
falla en caso de servidor dtp si en aquel momento etaba una connessión activa.


ciao,
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Kernel

2001-10-21 Thread Fernando
Estimado debian-user-spanish,

Que kernel me recomiendan que instale con la potato 2.2r3 ?

Y con respecto a la seguridad del sistema, que firewall me instalo apra
estar seguro que nadie va a entrar en mi sistema ?, o vasta con configurar
el ipchains ?

PD.: RESPONDER EN PRIVADO PARA NO MOLESTAR A LA LISTA, GRACIAS.

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Seguridad Debian

2001-10-21 Thread Fernando
Estimado debian-user-spanish,

Esta pregunta es con respecto a Linux y Debian en cuestión a seguridad:

Se que la parte de Seguridad en Debian esta reportado en
http://security.debian.org, pero no es solo eso lo que me refiero.

Quería saber QUE TENGO QUE HACER, luego que instalo mi Debian 2.2r3, PARA
ESTAR A LA ÚLTIMA EN SEGURIDAD, me refiero a que tengo que hacer y de
donde tengo que bajar todos los parches para corregir los bugs del sistema
y de los paquetes del mismo, como también los del kernel para corregir las
posibles fallas ??

Desde ya les agradezco por su amabilidad y estoy muy satisfecho de la
lista, porque aprendo MUCHO, algunas cosas no entiendo, pero de igual
forma me es muy útil GRACIAS :-D.

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modutils se queja al instalarmelo

2001-10-21 Thread Javier M Mora
Haciendo mi apt-get rutinario, se me ha bajado el paquete modutils.
y al instalarlo ma he dado el siguiente mensaje:


###inicio de volcado

Configurando modutils (2.4.10-3) ...
depmod: Unexpected value (20) in 
'/lib/modules/2.4.9-k6/kernel/drivers/ieee1394/sbp2.o' for ieee1394_device_size
It is likely that the kernel structure has changed, if so then
you probably need a new version of modutils to handle this kernel.
Check linux/Documentation/Changes.

###fin de volcado

tengo woody y no he hecho nada extraño 

¿Alguna pista? Gracias B-)



Re: Seguridad Debian

2001-10-21 Thread Andres Seco Hernandez
Hola

El 21 Oct 2001 a las 04:29PM -0300, Fernando escribio:
 Quería saber QUE TENGO QUE HACER, luego que instalo mi Debian 2.2r3, PARA
 ESTAR A LA ÚLTIMA EN SEGURIDAD, me refiero a que tengo que hacer y de
 donde tengo que bajar todos los parches para corregir los bugs del sistema
 y de los paquetes del mismo, como también los del kernel para corregir las
 posibles fallas ??

Añade esta linea a tu /etc/apt/sources.list

deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security potato/updates main contrib

El kernel no se actualiza solo, tu serás el que decidas qué kernel montar
en cada momento. La 2.2r3 lleva el 2.2.19, creo, y el 2.2.20 me temo que
aun no está disponible en paquete Debian, pero como tampoco estoy muy
puesto en seguridad y bugs del kernel mejor que alguien te diga algo. Yo
uso 2.2.19 en mis servidores importantes.

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Re: Kernel

2001-10-21 Thread MaX
On Sunday 21 October 2001 21:33, Fernando wrote:

 Y con respecto a la seguridad del sistema, que firewall me instalo apra
 estar seguro que nadie va a entrar en mi sistema ?, o vasta con configurar
 el ipchains ?

 PD.: RESPONDER EN PRIVADO PARA NO MOLESTAR A LA LISTA, GRACIAS.

Yo te contesto aqui porque puede interesar a mucha gente... :-)

el mas seguro... kernel 2.2.19
las reglas ipchains mas seguras... defcon4 (busca en freshmeat.net)

pero hay mucha cosa de hacer para conseguir una fortezza en tu maquina.
hay mucha documentación en internet, busca con las palabras clave (o si 
alguien sabe si en LUCAS hay documentación en esto asunto lo diga)

en cualquier caso, con el núcleo 2.2.19 standard + defcon4 tendrá un servidor 
bastante seguro y difícil de..¿¿como se dice en castillano??  
kill/fuck/crack??

ciao,
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Sintonizadora de TV ?

2001-10-21 Thread Jose Velasco Lopez
Hola chicos!!

Vamos a ver como siempre más problemas!!
tengo una tarjeta sintonizadora TV, Best Buy Easy TV cph061, la cual no
puedo hacerla funcionar
correctamente. Compile el nucleo con soporte Video for Linux como un modulo!
Active tambien i2c
las 3 opciones que se indicaban en el la documentacion del bttv, y por
supuesto me baje, compile
e instale la ultima version estable del bttv 0.7, en fin que no rula!! por
cierto mi versión
de la Debian es la SID. Que por cierta va genial!!

Venga chicos darme ideas!!
Si os hace falta más información (imagino que si) como los archivos
(modules.conf) y to eso
decidlo!!


Salu2!!



Kernel Bugs

2001-10-21 Thread Fernando
Estimado debian-user-spanish,

Gracias por todos los consejos de seguridad, y les pido que si tienen mas
que me los envíen, pero en privado apra no molestar a nadie de la lista.

Con respecto a la actualización de seguridad del kernel lo pregunto
porque últimamente se descubrió un bug en el kernel 2.2.19, que se puede
parchear con un paquete que te baja de www.openwall.com/linux
quería saber si existe algún otro bug anterior ???
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Que CDs instalar?

2001-10-21 Thread Marcel Figuerola Estrada
Me dispongo a instalar una debian y dispongo de 2 versiones del primer disco 
(US y NON-US). Cual de los dos discos debo insertar para hacer la instalación? 
O debo instalar los dos?

Me podéis explicar en palabras llanas las principales diferencias entre los dos 
discos?

Saludos,

Marcel



Re: Que CDs instalar?

2001-10-21 Thread Andres Seco Hernandez
Hola

El 22 Oct 2001 a las 01:59AM +0200, Marcel Figuerola Estrada escribio:
 Me dispongo a instalar una debian y dispongo de 2 versiones del primer disco 
 (US y NON-US). Cual de los dos discos debo insertar para hacer la 
 instalación? O debo instalar los dos?

Cualquiera de los dos.

 Me podéis explicar en palabras llanas las principales diferencias entre los 
 dos discos?

non-US es una sección de Debian que contiene programas que por alguna
razón no pueden ser sacados de EEUU.

Realmente, la distribución GNU/Linux de Debian son las secciones main y
non-US/main. Existen otras secciones, como contrib, non-US/contrib,
non-free y non-US/non-free, pero estas son de programas que no se ajustan
a las lineas de lo que Debian considera software libre (DFSG Debian Free
Software Guidelines) (estas son las secciones non-free) o bien se ajustan
a la DFSG pero dependen de programas que están en non-free (estos son
contrib).

Tu CD sin non-US es el que contiene parte de la sección main.
Tu CD con non-US es el que contiene parte de la sección main más la
sección non-US/main.

Yo usaría el que tiene non-US. Tiene más cosas, sobre todo de seguridad,
cifrado, etc. que no tiene el primero.

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Re: Paquetes de potato en woody

2001-10-21 Thread José Luis Fernández Barros
El Sáb 20 Oct 2001 04:27, al-lists escribió:
 Hola listeros
 miren, yo tengo en mi poder los 3 cds de potato + 2 extra + 1 Non-Free +
 otros que no vienen al caso.
 el tema es que ahora queria saber si cuando actualize a woody (apt-get
 dist-upgrade) voy a poder seguir instalando paquetes de los cds que tengo
 de potato
 gracias a todos.

Me temo que no. Cuando te actualices a Woody se tendrán en cuenta las nuevas 
versiones de los parquetes. Así por ejemplo si decides instalar gnupg, apt 
querrá instalar la versión 1.0.6-2 (la de Woody), me imagino que por 
Internet, en vez de la 1.0.4-2 (la de Potato), aunque la tengas en CD.
Siempre puedes instalar la versión antigua a mano, localizando el fichero 
.deb en el CD y usando dpkg -i. Probablemente no haya problemas de 
dependencias, pero es un riesgo... (y un engorro).
Mi consejo es que te hagas con unos CD de Woody, porque el cambio es 
casi-definitivo. Potato funciona muy bien aunque algunas cosas sean 
antiguas y falten otras; si no tienes buenos motivos para cambiar, quédate en 
Potato.



XMMS

2001-10-21 Thread Esteban Martín Aguilera
HOla lista:

 
tengo un problema con el xmms porque desde que lo instale con potato 1.2.4

no puedo ver el la lista de temas a tocar.



CRITICAL couldn't playlist font

GDK-WARNING missing charsets in fontset creation

GDK-WARNING ISO8859-1


como lo puedo arreglar ???



Re: Telia ADSL

2001-10-21 Thread Ulf Hansson
Har Telia ADSL och använder Lennart Franzéns Connection Keeper under Debian.
Fungerar utmärkt.
Freeware för privat bruk på www.lfdomain.com

Ulf

On söndag 21 oktober 2001 02.37, Helgi Örn wrote:
 Tack för tipset!
 Den har jag vetat om ett tag och testad i SuSE 7.1 och 7.2 och i Debian
 Potato, Woody och DeMuDi, den enda kännbara effekt som den har haft är att
 i SuSE 7.2 tog den kål på min Personal Firewall.

 Helgi Örn

 On Saturday 20 October 2001 23.20, Eric Bäckhage wrote:
  Qba.linuxsweden.nu har ett litet program som heter qADSL som kanske kan
  vara till nytta för Er som sitter med Telia ADSL. Jag har inte prövat det
  själv eftersom jag inte har fått mitt ADSL modem ännu men om någon är
  intresserad så är länken http://qba.linuxsweden.nu/ . Skulle vara roligt
  om någon prövade det så jag vet om det är något att ha när jag själv får
  ADSL.
 
  Eric



Re: WinModem Lucent

2001-10-21 Thread Gleydson Mazioli da Silva
Só complementando com mais um método de configuração do X na Woody, o 
dpkg-reconfigure xserver-svga torna o trabalho bem mais facil e detecta 
a maioria das configurações. Na minha máquina este foi o único recurso além do 
anXious que deu certo. Para xserver-sis basta substituir o pacote no comando, é 
bem facinho.

Abraços

Andre Luis Lopes em Sat, 20 Oct 2001 22:25:31 + escreveu:

 OI,
 
   Estou replicando a respota para a lista, uma vez que existe um número muito 
 maior de pessoas que podem lhe ajudar e peço-lhe para que possamos manter a 
 conversa na lista, para que outros possam se aproveitar de uma possível 
 solução que venha a surgir.
 
 Em Dom 21 Out 2001 01:53, you wrote:
  Não está recebendo resposta do servidor X e acho que esse deve ser o X111,
  já que depois eu só entro em modo texto.
 
Ainda não consigo lhe ajudar assim. Como é não receber resposta ? Existe 
 alguma mensagem de erro ? Qual sua placa de vídeo e monitor ? O que você já 
 tentou ? Tentou utilizar o utilitário xf86config ou o XF86Setup ?
 
  Não pretendo desistir não...eu já venho sofrendo à algum tempo, mas depois
  que li sobre Open Source e não sobre apenas Linux, fiquei com mais
  vontade fazer funcionar o Linux aqui, dominar e de fazer alguma coisa em
  prol desse ideal.
 
Como diz o Kov, Linux é coisa de marketing, GNU/Linux é o correto :-) É 
 assim que diz kov ? :-)
 
  Sou programador em Windows - deveria estar estudando as coisas de lá, mas
  eu não quero saber do mercado, quero continuar tendo prazer pela área então
  pretendo estudar o Linux. Entende?
 
E quem diz que o mercado atualmente está tão promissor assim para Windows 
 ? Atualmente acho que a demanda por profissionais que tenham conhecimento em 
 GNU/Linux vem crescendo em um ritmo muito mais acelerado do que a demanda por 
 profissionais conhecedores de Windows. Falo isso porque, além de usar 
 GNU/Linux em casa, utilizo-o no trabalho e o uso para implantar soluções em 
 clientes que de outro modo não teriam outra alternativa. Para alguns o valor 
 das licenças de software são proibitivas.
 
  Abraço
 
Até.
 
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Re: Usuários Potato: Sucesso no sistema de dist-upgrade potato = Woody

2001-10-21 Thread Gleydson Mazioli da Silva
Ola Andre,

Valeu pelas dicas, fiz as modificações necessárias no documento para o 
console-tools  e 
aproveitando as mensagens da lista falei sobre o o XF86Setup na Woody. Até o 
final do 
dia deve sair a versão 0.02 do documento ;-)

Abraços

Andre Luis Lopes em Sat, 20 Oct 2001 20:04:47 + escreveu:

 Em Sab 20 Out 2001 22:32, Gleydson Mazioli da Silva escreveu:
  Ola,
 
  Há 2 meses atrás fiz meu dist-upgrade potato = woody e ocorreram muitos
  problemas  e muita coisa precisou ser consertada na mão. De 2 meses para cá
  após alguns bug reportings e situações desagradáveis, fiz esta semana 2
  atualizações do sistema que mantenho em testes com pleno sucesso!
 
  As únicas configurações requeridas foram para adaptar o arquivo de
  configuração de programas para uma nova versão (como do squid 2.2 para
  squid 2.4), mas isso é completamente normal.
 
  O texto em anexo foi uma breve referência sobre alguns pontos para fazer um
  dist-upgrade com segurança, alguns problemas que você pode se deparar após
  a atualização assim como suas soluções e alguns novos recursos trazidos
  pela Debian 3.0 (futura Woody).
 
  Para os que desejam testar e usar a futura versão da Debian e tinham medo
  de fazer a atualização de sua Potato, agora podem faze-lo sem medo e
  desfrutar dos novos recuros trazidos por esta distribuição. Ja venho a
  usando em minha máquina de produção faz 2 meses e tem 1 mes que não ocorre
  uma falha que pare o funcionamento de alguma coisa no sistema.
 
  Espero que achem o texto útil e retornem sugestões para sua melhoria.
 
 
Olá Gleydson,
 
 Somente comentando, aqui em meu sistema unstable, o qual mantenho 
 atualizado diariamente, o arquivo /etc/kdb/config, citado no dicumento que 
 você preparou, não existe. Aliás, nem mesmo o diretório /etc/kbd existe. 
 Talvez porque eu não esteja usando o pacote kbd. Uso console-tools e o 
 equivalente a este arquivo parece ser o /etc/console-tools/config, mas 
 existem mais variáveis para serem setadas nesse arquivo.
 
Caso posso mencionar isso no seu documento, será uma boa ajuda para os 
 iniciantes ou o pessoal que está migrando.
 
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Re: Usuários Potato: Sucesso no sistema de dist-upgrade potato = Woody

2001-10-21 Thread Andre Luis Lopes
Em Dom 21 Out 2001 12:08, Gleydson Mazioli da Silva escreveu:
 Ola Andre,

 Valeu pelas dicas, fiz as modificações necessárias no documento para o
 console-tools  e aproveitando as mensagens da lista falei sobre o o
 XF86Setup na Woody. Até o final do dia deve sair a versão 0.02 do documento

   XF86Setup no Woody ? Estranho, pois o XF86Setup só está disponível no X 
até a versão 3.3.6. O X do Woody é por padrão o 4.x, a não ser que se esteja 
usando uma placa que não é suportada no X 4.x e por consequência usando o X 
3.x (o que é possível).

   Para o X 4. temos o xf86cfg (padrão do próprio X), temos ainda o 
xf86config, adaptado para o X 4.x, e temos o esquema lindo do Debian, baseado 
em debconf, o dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 e o dexconf :-)

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Re: WinModem Lucent

2001-10-21 Thread Gustavo Noronha Silva
Em Sun, 21 Oct 2001 09:22:24 +
Andre Luis Lopes [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:

  segundo: xterm??? o que é isso???
 
Um emulador gráfico de terminal. Se você conhece Windows, seria o 
 equivalente a janela de Prompt do MS-DOS, onde você digita comandos.
 
É como se você estivesse no shell (modo texto), mas na verdade está com 
 uma janela gráfica aberta dentro do modo gráfico e é nessa janela que os 
 comandos são digitados.
só pra evitar erros conceituais, 'shell' não quer dizer modo texto, shell
é qualquer programa que permite ao usuário interação com o sistema e com
outros programas, além de ser o ponto de partida para iniciar outras
aplicações... o bash é um shell e o gnome também

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Re: Usuários Potato: Sucesso no sistema de dist-upgrade potato = Woody

2001-10-21 Thread Gustavo Noronha Silva
Em Sat, 20 Oct 2001 18:32:28 -0400
Gleydson Mazioli da Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:

 Espero que achem o texto útil e retornem sugestões para sua melhoria.
seguinte, que tal mandar o texto pro strange colocar numa seção da
nossa page? =)

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stable unstable - fonte

2001-10-21 Thread cosmo
All

 ---
 Debian Weekly News
 http://www.debian.org/News/weekly/23
 Debian Weekly News - 25 de Setembro de 2001
 ---
 
 Fontes  faltando  depois  de  um  upgrade.  Várias  pessoas  relataram
 problemas  com  fontes depois de um upgrade do X. Caracteres apareciam
 como  quadrados  no  Gnumeric,  GIMP, XMMS ou outros programas. Isto é
 causado pela presença do fontes codificadas com ISO10646-3 (Unicode)
 nos  novos  pacotes de fontes do X 4.1.0. Muitas aplicações e toolkits
 não  especificam  que  codificação  de  caracteres  eles querem quando
 requisitam uma fonte e não estão equipadas para lidar com o retorno de
 uma  fonte de 16 bits. Usar o Servidor de Fontes do X (xfs) do XFree86
 4.x  irá  consertar  esse  problema.  As  pessoas também relataram que
 [31]mudar  a  ordem  das fontes no /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 irá funcionar
 também, apesar de isso poder ser apenas uma coincidência sortuda.
 
 31. http://lists.debian.org/debian-user-0109/msg00436.html

Quando fiz o upgrade do stable para o unstable tive o problema relatado 
acima. Tentei segui a dica e instalar a maioria das fontes do debian mas nao 
tive resultado. tive que voltar para o stable. Por acaso alguem sabe se esse 
problema foi resolvido ?!!? 

Outro problema que tive eh em relacao a configuracao do x 4.x. Tive que 
instalar o pacote xserver-svga do 3.x para poder configurar o X para a minha 
placa de video,Trident 9680.

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Re: apache flags

2001-10-21 Thread Hélio Alexandre Lopes Loureiro
 como faco para saber com que flags um pacote eh compilado no debian como o
 apache como saber as flags que sao utilizadas durante a configuracao do
 pacote com opcoes direito grupo/usuario e etc... sei que da pra fazer isso
 sem saber as flags corretas mas da muito trabalho...

pasargada:/usr/src/linux# apache -V
Server version: Apache/1.3.9 (Unix) Debian/GNU
Server built:   Jul 19 2001 14:45:21
Server's Module Magic Number: 19990320:6
Server compiled with
 -D EAPI
 -D HAVE_MMAP
 -D HAVE_SHMGET
 -D USE_SHMGET_SCOREBOARD
 -D USE_MMAP_FILES
 -D USE_FCNTL_SERIALIZED_ACCEPT
 -D HTTPD_ROOT=/usr
 -D SUEXEC_BIN=/usr/lib/apache/suexec
 -D DEFAULT_PIDLOG=/var/run/apache.pid
 -D DEFAULT_SCOREBOARD=/var/run/apache.scoreboard
 -D DEFAULT_LOCKFILE=/var/run/apache.lock
 -D DEFAULT_XFERLOG=/var/log/apache/access.log
 -D DEFAULT_ERRORLOG=/var/log/apache/error.log
 -D TYPES_CONFIG_FILE=/etc/apache/mime.types
 -D SERVER_CONFIG_FILE=/etc/apache/httpd.conf
 -D ACCESS_CONFIG_FILE=/etc/apache/access.conf
 -D RESOURCE_CONFIG_FILE=/etc/apache/srm.conf



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Sylpheed + jpilot

2001-10-21 Thread Jackson
Pessoal,

Como faço a integração do Sylpheed com o Jpilot?

Instalei o Sylpheed do unstable (0.6.3) mas não encontrei informações
sobre a integração no faq e nem no manual.

[]

Jackson



Re: WinModem Lucent

2001-10-21 Thread Gustavo Noronha Silva
Em Sun, 21 Oct 2001 20:50:22 -0200
Henrique [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:

 Aproveitando a dúvida:
 
 O Prompt do MS-DOS é um shell? Ou shell (concha, em inglês) são programas
 que rodam usando comandos que estão disponíveis pelo sistema operacional?

veja abaixo, o prompt do ms-dos é um shell:

 É como se você estivesse no shell (modo texto), mas na verdade está com
  uma janela gráfica aberta dentro do modo gráfico e é nessa janela que os
  comandos são digitados.
 só pra evitar erros conceituais, 'shell' não quer dizer modo texto, shell
 é qualquer programa que permite ao usuário interação com o sistema e com
 outros programas, além de ser o ponto de partida para iniciar outras
 aplicações... o bash é um shell e o gnome também
 
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Re: Sylpheed + jpilot

2001-10-21 Thread Gustavo Noronha Silva
Em Sun, 21 Oct 2001 21:51:42 -0200
Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:

 Pessoal,
 
 Como faço a integração do Sylpheed com o Jpilot?
 
 Instalei o Sylpheed do unstable (0.6.3) mas não encontrei informações
 sobre a integração no faq e nem no manual.
eu acho que o 0.6.3 não estava compilado pra integrar-se com jpilot,
eu acabo de pegar o pacote do kitame e ele não habilitou um monte
de coisa... comecei a melhorar o pacote e hoje fiz upload do 0.6.4
com suporte a tudo, dá uma olhada nele

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Re: Fonts aren't quite right (different problem)

2001-10-21 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Sat, Oct 20, 2001 at 11:26:44PM -0400, dman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 
 Ok, I know you're all tired of hearing about X font problems, but this
 problem is a bit different and wasn't solved by any of the recently
 posted solutions.
 
 Ok, I have a woody box (that got sid by accident several weeks ago).
 I tried reordering the FontPath lines in the X config file.  Then I
 got some messed up fonts in X and the warning that the Type1 and
 Speedo directories weren't valid FontPaths.  The visual problem is
 that in gnome-terminal, gvim, and x-chat the font is way too big now.
 (gvim is set in the .vimrc to use the same font as gnome-terminal).
 It is a lucidatypwriter font (I don't know what x-chat uses).  Also, a
 while back I installed the jmk fonts and xconsole got a nice looking
 kinda-itallic fancy like font.  Now it is back to basic block letters.
 
 I tried purging and reinstalling all the xfont packages (gsfonts too)
 that I have.  No change.  I tried the alias tweak that Karsten needed
 but that caused 'fixed' to not be found (ie the original is correct
 for my machine but not Karsten's modification).

Incidentally, the confirmational phase of my tweak may be of use.  The
xfontsel program will show you what foundries, families, etc., of fonts
are available.  You can tweak your configuration (and check aliases) to
the point that things work properly.  To this extent, it's a useful
debug tool.

Peace.

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Re: modules will taint the kernel?

2001-10-21 Thread Jeffrey W. Baker


On Sat, 20 Oct 2001, Paul 'Baloo' Johnson wrote:

 On Sun, 21 Oct 2001, Pollywog wrote:

  Warning, loading /lib/modules/2.4.12/pcmcia/i82365.o will taint the kernel:
  no license

  Anyone know what this is about and how to fix it?

 It means a particular module is not GPL.  Easiest fix:  Don't use it.

At this stage it actually means that the author hasn't bothered fixing the
module to express its license.

-jwb



Re: virtual hosting in apache and file locations

2001-10-21 Thread will trillich
On Tue, Oct 02, 2001 at 09:39:58PM +1000, Daniel Stone wrote:
 On Tue, Oct 02, 2001 at 12:43:43PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote:
  ...equinomial[1]...
  [1] no, this isn't a word. but it should be. you get the idea...
 
 It's a damn cool word. I second its introduction to the English
 language.

how about 'eponymous'? :)

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Re: Woody Killed PCMCIA

2001-10-21 Thread Doc - KD4E
 If you upgraded to woody, it should have downloaded the new
 pcmcia-modules package, so you shouldn't need to copy anything.
 You can check in /lib/modules/version (where version is the output
 of uname -r).  There should be a pcmcia directory in there.

/lib/modules/2.2.18/pcmcia/  has a bunch of modules, including the one
I need 3c589_cs.o but 2.2.18 is the old kernel -- I upgraded to 
Woody which I imagine is 2.4.10 or something from Testing.

Did the Woody upgrade not take completely?

 Doc I did the cardctl ident thing and edited /etc/pcmcia/config
 Doc card 3C589, TP/BNC LAN Card Ver. 2a, 02
 Doc manfid: 0x0101
 Doc function: 6 (network)
 If that is the output of cardctl ident, then I believe that the lines
 you want to add to /etc/pcmcia/config are (following the pattern of the
 other lines):
 card TP/BNC LAN Card Ver. 2a
   version 3C589, TP/BNC LAN Card Ver. 2a, 02
   manfid 0x0101
   bind 3c589_cs
 The version and manfid lines may be optional, but they probably won't
 hurt.

Done.

 cardctl insert should work.  Or you may need to reboot (I doubt it).
 Make a note of any error messages when you do cardctl insert.
 Hubert Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED]

no pcmcia driver in /proc/devices

What should I learn from this, please?

Thanks!  Doc



Re: New troubles with X

2001-10-21 Thread Michel Loos
Karsten M. Self wrote:
 
 on Fri, Oct 19, 2001 at 09:00:54PM -0700, Robert Gill ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
 wrote:
  Today I updated my sid machine, just as I do every day.  There were some
  new X packages and they seemed to install cleanly.  I even restarted X
  just to double check, and everything ran fine.  So this is probably
  something I foolishly brought on myself.
  I was reading the list and there were a few posts on ext3.  This
  reminded me that I've been meaning to try that out since my cat keeps
  pulling out my power cords.  So I downloaded kernel-2.4.12 and the ac3
  patch (I was previously running 2.4.10), enabled ext3 support and compiled.
  No problems there.  Then I rebooted and enabled journaling with
  'tune2fs -j /dev/hdb1`, again there were apparently no problems.  When I
  startx I get these errors (pardon long lines):
 
  Could not init font path element /usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc, removing from 
  list!
  Could not init font path element /usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled, 
  removing from list!
  Could not init font path element /usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled, 
  removing from list!
  Could not init font path element /usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi, removing from 
  list!
  Could not init font path element /usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi, removing from 
  list!
 
  Fatal server error:
  could not open default font 'fixed'
 
 
 
  Oddly the speedo and type1 fonts seem to be exempt from these errors.
  Anyone have a clue?  I'll post my entire XFree86.log on request.
 
 Reinstall fonts:
 
 $ apt-get install --reinstall xfonts-misc xfonts-100dpi xfonts-75dpi
 
 (Check package names, I'm not positive on that).
 
 I also found my 'fixed' alias didn't exist, posted recently to this
 list, see archives.
 
 Peace.
 

That did not totally fix my problem. 
misc is readable now and X starts but the fonts are just awfull
since 100dpi and 75 dpi were still unreadable.

Finally found it: /etc/X11/fonts/[100dpi|75dpi]  still contained *.alias
files pertaining to the biznet family of fonts (uninstalled)
removing those files and editing 
/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/fonts.alias
in order to remove the lines corresponding to those fonts (A comment
divides the fonts comming from different packages) INCLUDING the last
line # This file can be removed things came back to normal.

Michel.



Re: Software DVD players

2001-10-21 Thread Krzys Majewski
Good  question! For  me  the attraction  is  that I  live  in a  small
apartment  so  I  don't  really   have  room  for  a  separate  TV/DVD
player. Oh, and also money. My  17 ViewSonic CRT + Pinnacle PCTV card
+ lirc + xine  + xawtv makes a very good tv/vcr.   Plus I already have
the cable for free since I pay for cable internet. All I need now is a
motorized monitor arm that rotates/swivels so my monitor faces me when
I sit  down on the  couch! And maybe  an X10 controller or  whatnot so
when I hit video on the Pinnacle remote it activates the monitor arm..

chris

Rick Macdonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Fri, 12 Oct 2001, Jeffrey W. Baker wrote:
 
 Excuse my ignorance, but what's the attraction of watching DVD movies on a
 computer? It seems I'm better off in my comfy recliner chair or on the
 couch watching my 29 inch Panasonic GAOO then sitting at my desk in the
 den.
 
 ...RickM...
 
 
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Hello everybody

2001-10-21 Thread shyamk
Title: Hello everybody ,




Hello everybody 
,
 
I wanted to share with all 
of you my desperation to get a hang of Solaris .
All of you , 
being votaries of the Open Source Movement , could perhaps guide me as to how I can 
have Solaris on my box [I am speaking of both office and home , architectures 
being vastly different] .
 I am broke , and cant pay Sun micro any 
money that they might ask 
.
 Please guide me on this 
.

I gather that Solaris is 
a member of the Unix family , a 
cousin of Linux 
.
Could somebody in the know 
of things , please tell me from where I can gather information on :
1. 
What really is Solaris 
?
2. 
Is it really a member of the 
Unix family ?
3. 
How do you work on it ? 
(Like in Unix , SCO , Linux etc ?) 
4. 
How different is it from 
other members of the Unix family .
5. 
How and from where can I get 
Solaris such that I get all that can be summed up as Solaris , and that too , 
free (!) of cost.
6. 
Can I stage manage a Solaris 
partition , by working through the 
Linux (I of course mean : a) Setting up a proper partition for Solaris b) 
copying him there c)Telling lilo to look there and also provide ability to boot 
Solaris , side by side with Lin and Win)


I shall be immensely 
grateful for all help and guidance anybody might be able to 
render.

Thanks in 
advance,
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Re: what music players?

2001-10-21 Thread Krzys Majewski
What's Schutzverletzung and Bock? 
-chris

Eduard Bloch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Linux rebootet man in drei Fällen:
 Neuer Kernel, neue (Board-)Hardware, neue Partition angelegt
 
 Aber Windows rebootet man auch in drei Fällen:
 Schutzverletzung, Bluescreen, keinen Bock...




Re: Debian Linux

2001-10-21 Thread will trillich
On Mon, Oct 08, 2001 at 10:33:39AM -0700, Hamma Scott wrote:
 
  Debian makes me want to dive in and learn all
  it's internal
  workings. Keep up the good work!!
  
  mike
 
 Here are some tips I've harvested from this group
 straight from Will Trillich's Tips. Hope they come in
 handy:

glad to have contributed something useful (if not timely :)--

 DEBIAN NEWBIE TIP #1 from Will Trillich
[snip]

heavens, we can't allow a gap like that!

here's 2-4:
Confused about using apt-get to keep your Debian UP-TO-DATE?
See http://newbieDoc.sourceForge.net/system/apt-get-intro.html

Wondering how to FIND WHICH PACKAGE CONTAINS x-y-or-z? Just enter
dpkg -S part/of/path and you'll get a list of all packages that
affect paths like that. For an example, try dpkg -S http.

Want to know WHAT FILES ARE PROVIDED BY PACKAGE x-y-z? This is a
job for dpkg: enter dpkg -L package-name at the command
prompt.  Try dpkg -L netbase | pager for example.

 DEBIAN NEWBIE TIP #5 from Will Trillich
 DEBIAN NEWBIE TIP #6 from Will Trillich
 DEBIAN NEWBIE TIP #7 from Will Trillich
 DEBIAN NEWBIE TIP #8 from Will Trillich
 DEBIAN NEWBIE TIP #9 from Will Trillich

ten:
Looking to run a command or two at REGULAR INTERVALS?  Try
crontab -e for starters (see man cron or man crontab).
You might also investigate the anacron package.

eleven:
Which COMMANDS pertain to xyz? Try apropos xyz,
info xyz, and man -k xyz.

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Why are *.rpm (RED HAT PACKAGES) considered spawn of Satan?
Because the Debian package system is a lot more sophisticated
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is built in to a *.deb package. If you bypass that with an *.rpm
file, you're taking chances with your system. Try to apt-get
install debian-only packages if possible. (Also check out the
alien package if you must.)

Why is TELNET considered spawn of Satan? Because every keystroke
sent by you, is transmitted -- clear as a bell -- across the
ether. Anyone can sniff your network packets and see what you're
typing -- passwords, love letters, cold fusion blueprints...
It's as secure as shouting from the rooftops. Everyone can see!

How do you DISABLE A NETWORK SERVICE? There are several ways
network services are made available: for inetd items, modify
/etc/inetd.conf and then /etc/init.d/inetd restart. For
independently-running daemons, try /etc/init.d/daemon stop
(or to permanently zap them, apt-get --purge remove daemon).

Dave Sherohman gets co-authorship on number nineteen:

How do you determine WHICH NETWORK SERVICES ARE OPEN (active)?
Try netstat -a | grep LISTEN. To see numeric values (instead
of the common names for services using a particular port) then
try netstat -na instead. For more info, look at man netstat.
   Also try lsof -i as root. man lsof for details.

What TERMINAL TYPES are available for export TERM=xyz?  Look in
/etc/terminfo or /etc/termcap and pick one similar to your
terminal emulator's capabilities. Common ones are linux (for
console), xterm, vt102 and rxvt. See man terminfo or man
termcap if you're determined to learn the nitty-gritty.

Looking to configure your Debian NETWORK SETTINGS? Look at the
file /etc/network/interfaces (try man interfaces for more
info). Then ifup -a to reload your settings, and ifconfig to
display them. (Also check out apt-get install ipmasq!)

SECURITY-CONSCIOUS? Good! Here's how you can use apt-get to keep
your system up-to-date with the latest security patches: in
/etc/apt/sources.list include these lines--
deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security potato/updates 
main contrib non-free
deb http://security.debian.org/debian-non-US potato/non-US main 
contrib non-free
deb http://security.debian.org potato/updates main contrib 
non-free
Thereafter, a quick apt-get update  apt-get upgrade is all
you need to keep the gremlins at bay.

Wondering what you should BACK UP -- and what you shouldn't? Here's
a how I do it written by a debian-user regular, Karsten Self:
http://kmself.home.netcom.com/Linux/FAQs/backups.html
This is a frequent topic on debian-user; check 

Re: Boot Process

2001-10-21 Thread will trillich
On Sun, Oct 07, 2001 at 06:26:22PM -0500, Michael Grover wrote:
 Can Some tell me if there is a link on the debian web site that gives
 detailed information on the boot process, like when files get started
 from
 the init.d directory, etc etc
 
  mike...

there's a reasonably inaccurate rendition at the newbiedoc
project:

http://newbieDoc.sourceForge.net/system/runlevels-intro.html

basically, you can trace it yourself by looking in

/etc/inittab

which -- on initial system startup -- specifies that

/etc/init.d/rcS

will be called.  then, on entering any runlevel (including the
initial default, which is also set in /etc/inittab) inittab then
refers to

/etc/init.d/rc RUNLEVEL

if you have a look at that script you'll see it calls scripts
matching the pattern

# KILL services for this runlevel: K??*
/etc/rcRUNLEVEL.d/K[0-9][0-9]* stop

# START services for this runlevel: S??*
/etc/rcRUNLEVEL.d/S[0-9][0-9]* start

those are typically symlinks (see 'man ln') to the actual
startup/stop daemon scripts in the /etc/init.d/* directory. to
munge them to your heart's content, try

update-rc.d
(man update-rc.d)

unless you want to do things by hand and face the likelihood of
breaking things in subtle and not-so-subtle ways.

in typical *nix fashion, this question is one you can answer
yuorself, AFTER you figure out what to look for, and where to
look for it. (and may the force be with you...)

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Re: Is http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/network-administrator up to date?

2001-10-21 Thread will trillich
On Tue, Oct 09, 2001 at 09:29:54AM -0400, Stan Brown wrote:
 I'm trying to add a default route for my potato machine.
 
 A kind reader of this list pointed me to http://www.debain.org/doc/manuals,
 which seemed like a gold mine. However it references /etc/init.d/network,
 which my mcahine does not have.
 
 Whats the story here?

i think slink (note the intellectual rhyming there) may have had
'network' but potato has 'networking' which relies heavily on
/etc/network/interfaces (man interfaces).

unless i'm wrong (or as uncle vernon would say, barking,
howling mad).

[slink was debian stable for a while, then potato became the
debian stable, and woody's next. real soon now. that's what they
tell me.]

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there, first: you can have your current applications link to
the remote database through the network:
psql -h 192.168.2.17 myDB
or in perl,
$dbh = DBI-connect('dbi:Pg:dbname=myDB;host=192.168.2.17');
(You may need to tweak your 'host-based access' settings in
/etc/postgresql/pg_hba.conf, first.) Once you're satisfied that
all is well, upgrade your main server. No down time!
  See man psql and man DBD::Pg for details.

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pump doesn't really exit

2001-10-21 Thread Shaya Potter
I seem to have a problem with pump

On my laptop, when ever I pump an IP, it seems to fork a child process, and
while the parent eventually quits (when I get the IP) the child keeps on
pumping away, eventually causing me to loose the IP (as it seems to either
confuse the DHCP server, or it just doesn't work correctly)

has anyone else seen this?

thanks,

shaya




libsdl 1.2

2001-10-21 Thread Banshee
A few days ago I did apt-get upgrade and it downloaded libsdl1.2debian which 
completely broke a bunch of stuff.  Is there something I can do to fix it?  I 
can't compile anything that requires libsdl and I can't install a few 
packages.



Re: Readline versus wide xterms

2001-10-21 Thread will trillich
On Wed, Oct 10, 2001 at 09:04:35PM -0700, Jeffrey W. Baker wrote:
 On Wed, 10 Oct 2001, Karsten M. Self wrote:
  on Wed, Oct 10, 2001 at 03:39:23PM -0700, Jeffrey W. Baker ([EMAIL 
  PROTECTED]) wrote:
   Does anyone know what it is that makes readline eat itself when a terminal
   is very wide?
  
   Example: make an xterm 120 chars wide.  Type in some long command that
   spans more than one line.  Now up arrow to the prev command and back arrow
   through it.  You'll notice that the display gets out of sorts.
 
  It's usually a bash prompt issue.  You got anything funky in there,
  particularly nonprintable color or highlight directives?
 
 My prompt is $ for users and # for root.
 
 I see this particular problem with any readline program: bash, mysql,
 pgsql, perl -MCPAN -eshell, ...

hmm. i use 132 (wide) x 30 (high) for my rxvt and i only notice
this symptom (as i understand your description) with shell
prompts where the prompt has colorization or title-bar-set
escape sequences built-in.

oops. i just tried it (my current tcsh prompt string is
%{^O\e[44;37;1m%}%n:%{\e[37;40m%} %~%{\e[0m%}%# so it gets quite
hairy in spots) and the display worked like an intuitive CHAMP!
even with embedded tabs (^V^I) and wraparound, and uparrow,
leftarrow, downarrow, etc. also worked fine in psql (which has a
very elemental prompt, no escape sequences at all).

one of us has a goofy setting somewhere. (i'm using potato...)

[really, i have noticed what i think you're talking about, but
right now i can't replicate the symptom. odd!]

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Re: debian hangs during boot (at fsck stage)

2001-10-21 Thread Shaul Karl
You might want to enter 

init=/bin/sh

at the lilo prompt (assuming you have lilo) in order to skip the system 
initializations and check that partition manually with the file system 
debug/repair tools.

This doesn't look to me a UDMA matter since other partitions on the 
same disk (hde) are flawless.
What stuff was there? /usr? /var?


 I'm having trouble with my debian 2.2r3 (potato) box. For the past two weeks
 its been sitting happily on the network, doing things as expected, but now it
 hangs during boot. I was running samba, and a few times whilst copying lots of
 files from a win2000 machine to the debian box I encountered errors - the last
 time this happened, I got the message couldn't copy file, network name not
 found on my win2000 machine. Then it seemed my debian box had disapeared off
 the network (as far as ping, ssh, smb went). I tried pinging from other
 machines and they all couldn't contact my box. As my machine was now sitting 
 in
 a cupboard with no monitor or keyboard, I elected to just power down and
 power-up again (bad idea). The machine wouldn't reappear on the network, so I
 lugged a monitor and keyboard to it - turns out its hanging during boot. It
 gets to fsck, where it says that one partition wasn't cleanly mounted, at 
 which
 point it freezes and doesn't boot any further. Oh yes, before this point it
 does appear to do a check of some sort on a partition - the progress meter
 appears and goes up to 100% and disapears.
 
 I've put up a digital photo of the screen at the point the machine hangs at
 http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~lard/fsck.hang.jpg
 
 My system has done fsck partition integrity checks before without having any
 problems. Could this problem be anything to do with the fact the hard disk is
 connected as a UDMA66 device and not a normal IDE drive? When I installed it, 
 I
 used the UDMA66 flavour kernel and had no problems...
 
 cheers
 alex
 
 
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Re: How can I create /dev/st0, when booted from a rescue disk?

2001-10-21 Thread Shaul Karl
 I'm trying to restore to a new hard drive, because my root disk is dying.
 
 I have a good backup on tape, and it looks like the rescue disk ssupports
 the SCSI card I have, and recognizes the tape drive. However I can't find
 /dev/st0.
 
 How can I create this?
 


Probably with /dev/MAKEDEV. 
MAKEDEV has a manpage you might be interested in.


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Re: Woody Gnome problems

2001-10-21 Thread Shaul Karl
 I've just installed woody with xfree 4.1 and gnome 1.4, all from scratch.
 
 I've had some problems to launch X because issuing startx linux has
 been complaining that X was not executable. I've relinked X (which
 pointed to a non existent xserver_svga) to XFree86 and it all worked
 properly AS ROOT.
 
 Unfortunately, under a newly-defined user (dada) X invariably fails to
 start.  Now I've tried with the classical .xinitrc  .xsession with
 the only line gnome-session to no avail.
 
 What's wrong with it and what should I do or check?
 
 Vittorio
 


What is written in /etc/X11/Xserver?
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Re: How to apply a patch?

2001-10-21 Thread Tom Massey
On Sun, 21 Oct 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 what...say again?  actually this is what happens when I try to apply the
 patchperhaps it's bec. a wrong patch was applied?

 RRR:/usr/src# patch   ext3-2.4-0.9.5-247ac3

Try something like:

patch -p0  ext3-2.4-0.9.5-247ac3



Re: remote installation

2001-10-21 Thread Tom Allison

Karsten M. Self wrote:


on Fri, Oct 19, 2001 at 09:03:12PM -0400, Tom Allison ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

Is there anything in Debian that might allow someone to create an 
installatin floppy such that:


I can give someone who knows nothing about Linux (or little) a CD-ROM, 
floppy, and one page of instructions and be able to set up an 
installation on a computer from scratch?




Almost certainly.

Widely known or advised:  no.



Thanks for the reply.
Any suggestion on where to look in Debian?  I didn't see it one one or 
two tries on the Debian.org website.




The real goal here is to have someone who is not in a position to do
an in depth linux installation to do a hardened installation on the
internet from there location.



Better:  


  - install locally and ship to remote.
  - install on hard drive for installation at remote site.
  - travel to the remote site.

Another option may be to burn a disk image onto suitable storage (DVD or
large-capacity tape are the likely candidates, unless you can ship a
second system for purposes of the installation.

Or you could use bootable media such as the LNX-BBC
(http//www.lnx-bbc.org/) to boot the system and proceed with a further
installation.

Remember that the key things you need to get configured are the base
system, networking, and SSH.  Once you've got this set up, you can
proceed with the remainder of the installation.



I was thinking of just setting up a base installation on a CD-ROM.
I should be able to copy that over to the /dev/hda# partitions, run the 
HDDs lilo and reboot without the CD-ROM.




Peace.








Re: Debian 'woody' + Kernel 2.4.12 recompile + modules

2001-10-21 Thread Tom Allison

Osamu Aoki wrote:


On Sat, Oct 20, 2001 at 10:44:08PM +1000, Tim Kane wrote:

I've succesfully compiled and booted with kernel 2.4.12 without a 
problem. The issue I have is with missing modules. 


This is due to kernel/modutil incompatibility.  There was report in
debian-devel ML.  In short, stable kernel changed it header file.  So
binutils compiled with older 2.4 kernel header file will not function
properly.  Your options are one of followings:

1) remove offending module by rm and use modutils
2) Wait for newer binutil in unstable and install it.

You are using testing so expect some minor glich like this.

Cheers.



What exactly is the last known good header file?
I have 2.4.9 and am not sure it's a valid one or not.  But your email 
implies that there are some 2.4 versions that are still going to work.




X-window-manager problem

2001-10-21 Thread Sébastien Valsemey
Hello, 

I'd like to have help on an error message I obtain when launching my
X-Session. My X-Server is well configured and is working fine.
Everything was also working fine, until I upgraded my system with
apt-get. Now, when I want to start my X-Session, the server immediately
quits with this line in ~/.xsession-errors (no matter which user it is):


/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/Xsession: /usr/bin/ssh-agent  x-window-manager:
No such file or directory

I'd like to know why. 

Best regards, 
Sébastien Valsemey.



Re: Software DVD players

2001-10-21 Thread Jean-Marc V. Liotier
 On Fri, 12 Oct 2001, Jeffrey W. Baker wrote:
 
 Excuse my ignorance, but what's the attraction of watching DVD movies on a
 computer? It seems I'm better off in my comfy recliner chair or on the
 couch watching my 29 inch Panasonic GAOO then sitting at my desk in the
 den.

Watching a DVD on my laptop in bed with my wife, watching a DVD on a
plane trip, borrowing a videoprojector and enjoying a wall sized picture
with my friends... And I have no TV.



pgpPm3kFb3cOL.pgp
Description: PGP signature


Re: debian hangs during boot (at fsck stage)

2001-10-21 Thread Alex Hunsley
Shaul Karl wrote:
 
 

Shaul,
thanks for your reply.

 You might want to enter
 
 init=/bin/sh
 
 at the lilo prompt (assuming you have lilo) in order to skip the system
 initializations and check that partition manually with the file system
 debug/repair tools.

Yes, I have lilo, I'll try this. What are the file system debug/repair tools
that you speak of?

 This doesn't look to me a UDMA matter since other partitions on the
 same disk (hde) are flawless.
 What stuff was there? /usr? /var?

You mean on the uncleanly mounted partition? I'm not sure. But if I can use
that init= trick I will check...

thanks
alex


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Re: debian hangs during boot (at fsck stage)

2001-10-21 Thread Alex Hunsley
Shaul Karl wrote:
 
 You might want to enter
 
 init=/bin/sh
 
 at the lilo prompt (assuming you have lilo) in order to skip the system
 initializations and check that partition manually with the file system
 debug/repair tools.

Is there some magic way of entering text at the lilo prompt? I've tried typing
during the brief pause when it says LILO but no text appears and booting just
continues after the pause. Just before it says LILO it says MBR (master boot
record I preume), does this have anything to do with it? If I hit a key just
after MBR has appeared the text 1FR: appears after it but nothing much
else.
thanks
alex


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The old story - backspace in xterms

2001-10-21 Thread A.R. \(Tom\) Peters
For some reason neither the Delete key nor the Backspace key work in my
terminal windows (xterm, Konsole).  I have to use ^H on the command
line.  The keys work however as expected in editors like vim, pine (in
these very terminal windows), as well as in nedit.  There is nothing about
the keys in my .bash_profile nor in my .Xdefaults.
Can anybody tell me where and how the key settings are defined for xterms?
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Re: Hello everybody

2001-10-21 Thread Stig Brautaset
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] spake thus:
 Hello everybody ,Hello everybody ,
 
 I  wanted to share with all of you my desperation to get a hang of Solaris .
 
 All of you , being votaries of the Open Source Movement ,  could
 perhaps guide me as to how I can have Solaris on my box [I am speaking
 of both office and home , architectures being vastly different] .
 
 I am broke , and can't pay Sun micro any money  that they might ask .

Solaris is free for systems with less than 8 CPS's, AFAIK.

 Please guide me on this .

Here's an advise: ask where your question might be on-topic.

 I gather that Solaris is a  member of the Unix family , a cousin of  Linux .
 
 Could somebody in the know of things , please tell me from where I can
 gather information on  :

Answers to all your questions can (most likely) be found by stfw for
about 10-15 minutes. Start at google.com.

 Thanks in advance,

np ;-)

Regards,
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Re: GeForce3: X won't start!!!!

2001-10-21 Thread Krzys Majewski
Not  sure if  you're  having the  same  problem, but  in  my case  the
Geforce3  would  not  work  in  any mode  higher  than  16bpp.  Nvidia
acknowledged this  as a bug  (but only after  I'd spent a week  on the
it, gaah).

-chris

Aaron Traas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I just got a new GeForce3, and am having problems getting X working at
 all. I'm using an AMD 760 based motherboard with a 1ghz Athlon and SB
 Live!. 
 
 I compiled a new kernel, and the NVIDIA kernel module and GLX package. I
 modified XF86Config-4 as the instructions said. When I type startx, I
 get the cool NVIDIA splash screen, and then X just exits. The real
 annoyance is there is NO error message given in the log.
 
 I'm using Woody, the newest version (1541) of the NVIDIA drivers, and
 the 2.4.9 kernel. This is really bugging me! Help!
 
 
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Help needed starting audio

2001-10-21 Thread Stuart Luscombe
Hi all,

  Just about got everything working now.

I'm trying to run XMMS. But I can only seem to run
it as root. When I try to run it as a normal user,
I get the message:

Unable to connect to UNIX socket /var/run/esound/socket

I think this maybe a permission problem in /dev somewhere
but I'm not sure where or what the permission should be...

Any ideas?

--
Stuart



Re: Hello everybody

2001-10-21 Thread Colin Watson
On Sun, Oct 21, 2001 at 09:09:07AM +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello everybody ,Hello everybody ,
 
 I  wanted to share with all of you my desperation to get a hang of
 Solaris .
 
 All of you , being votaries of the Open Source Movement ,  could
 perhaps guide me as to how I can have Solaris on my box [I am speaking
 of both office and home , architectures being vastly different] .

As a free software advocate, I'd say don't. Solaris is neither free
software nor open source. Perhaps you have to for some reason, though;
of the proprietary Unices it's probably the one with the fewest
problems.

   I am broke , and can't pay Sun micro any money  that they might ask .

Solaris 8 is free in terms of cost. See
URL:http://www.sun.com/solaris/binaries/.

 I gather that Solaris is a  member of the Unix family , a cousin of
 Linux .
 
 Could somebody in the know of things , please tell me from where I can
 gather information on  :
 
 1. What really is Solaris ?
 
 2. Is it really a member of the Unix family ?

Solaris is the successor to SunOS, which is a BSD-derived Unix that
predates Linux by almost a decade. See
URL:http://perso.wanadoo.fr/levenez/unix/.

 4. How different is it from other members of the Unix family .

As much as any of the others. A lot of people tend to install the GNU
tools on it in order to make normal user-level work bearable.

Anything else is really beyond the scope of this list. I don't know of a
better mailing list, but you might try the comp.unix.solaris newsgroup.

Cheers,

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Re: X-window-manager problem

2001-10-21 Thread Colin Watson
On Sun, Oct 21, 2001 at 11:02:24AM +0200, S?bastien Valsemey wrote:
 I'd like to have help on an error message I obtain when launching my
 X-Session.

Please read the archives, as this has been discussed a *lot* recently.
Either upgrade to XFree86 4.1.0-8, or remove the double quotes around
$REALSTARTUP in /etc/X11/Xsession.d/99xfree86-common_start.

Cheers,

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Re: kdm/xdm don't start WindowManager

2001-10-21 Thread Jens Müller
John Eggert [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 in the file:/etc/kde2/kdmrc
 
 you will find a line (line 31 in my file) that says :
 
 SessionTypes=default,failsafe
 
 I modified mine to show:
 
 SessionTypes=default,kde2,icewm,failsafe
 
 Thus I can run either kde or icewm.
 
 I assume (though cannot be sure) that the same would work for others (twm, 
 enlightenment et al.)

kdm shows all these window managers (except kde2), but they don't run anyway.



Re: woody + xmms v1.2.5 (deb 1.2.5-2) SEGFAULT

2001-10-21 Thread Krzys Majewski
Eduard Bloch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 If you installed the xmms-aalsa plugin - remove it, it is broken.

Bummer. I've built mine from source and it also has problems. Hm. 
Anyone got a better one? 

-chris





Re: default fonts too small

2001-10-21 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Sat, Oct 20, 2001 at 10:54:28AM -0700, Jeffrey W. Baker ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:
 I installed a fresh Debian on a new PC and it has a problem that I haven't
 noticed with my other installs.  The default fonts in many applications
 are WAY too small.  For instance, the tooltips in sawfish are an
 unreadable blur.  In Motif applications, the fonts are all 6pt which is
 entirely too small.  Motif buttons are completely unreadable.

Try playing with order and/or commenting of 100 and 75 DPI fonts.
You're likely going to want 100dpi selected given 121dpi resolution
(below).

 What controls the default font size for these applications?  My screen
 is 121dpi and I have all the scalable fonts I can get my hands on.  X
 is properly configured and xdpyinfo shows the correct screen size and
 resolution.

There are numerous places to configure fonts.  If the above doesn't do
it for you, you can play with X resources for most of your base apps,
and the appropriate GNOME and/or KDE resources configuration for these
desktops if you use them.

 I'm looking for a global equivalent to gtkrc for non-GTK applications.  I
 tried putting this in my Xresources:
 
 *Font:  -*-helvetica-medium-r-normal--*-160-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1
 
 and ran xrdb -merge but it didn't help at all.

What does

$ xrdb -query 

...show?

Peace.

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Re: Navigator: icons only black and white

2001-10-21 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Sat, Oct 20, 2001 at 08:34:34PM +, Patrick-Oliver Lorenz ([EMAIL 
PROTECTED]) wrote:
 Hi,
 
 on my system (Debian 2.2r0) Navigator 4.7 (smotif) shows only black and
 white icons.

24 bit color depth.  Netscape prefers 8, 16, or 32.

Ditch Netscape, it's crap.  Galeon, Konqueror, or Mozilla are far
better.

Peace.

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Re: How can I create /dev/st0, when booted from a rescue disk?

2001-10-21 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Sat, Oct 20, 2001 at 05:32:01PM -0400, Stan Brown ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 I'm trying to restore to a new hard drive, because my root disk is dying.
 
 I have a good backup on tape, and it looks like the rescue disk ssupports
 the SCSI card I have, and recognizes the tape drive. However I can't find
 /dev/st0.

Compile SCSI tape support.

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RSH and SSH -- the same in Debian?

2001-10-21 Thread Raffaele Sandrini



Hi,

I'd like to use rsh. Yes my network is 100% secure 
cause its not connected to anything insecure.
But i think there is no rsh in Debian. If i type 
"man rsh" i get the manpage of ssh. If i execute "rsh" i get ssh...

Is it forbidden to use rsh? :-))

cheers,
Raffaele


Re: Help needed starting audio

2001-10-21 Thread David Raeker-Jordan
Stuart Luscombe wrote:
 Hi all,
 
   Just about got everything working now.
 
 I'm trying to run XMMS. But I can only seem to run
 it as root. When I try to run it as a normal user,
 I get the message:
 
 Unable to connect to UNIX socket /var/run/esound/socket
 
 I think this maybe a permission problem in /dev somewhere
 but I'm not sure where or what the permission should be...
 

Try adding the user to the audio group.

`man addgroup`

-- 
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mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Harrisburg, PA, USA



Re: Help needed starting audio

2001-10-21 Thread Stuart Luscombe
On Sun, Oct 21, 2001 at 07:54:20AM -0400, David Raeker-Jordan wrote:
 Stuart Luscombe wrote:
  Hi all,
  
Just about got everything working now.
  
  I'm trying to run XMMS. But I can only seem to run
  it as root. When I try to run it as a normal user,
  I get the message:
  
  Unable to connect to UNIX socket /var/run/esound/socket
  
  I think this maybe a permission problem in /dev somewhere
  but I'm not sure where or what the permission should be...
  
 
 Try adding the user to the audio group.
 
 `man addgroup`

I don't actually have any system groups.
Not as far as I know anyway, the only users are
root and myself.

--
Stuart



Re: Help needed starting audio

2001-10-21 Thread David Raeker-Jordan
Stuart Luscombe wrote:
  
  Try adding the user to the audio group.
  
  `man addgroup`
 
 I don't actually have any system groups.
 Not as far as I know anyway, the only users are
 root and myself.
 

Users and groups are different. /etc/group lists your groups.

As user, type `groups`
You will get the names of any groups the user belongs to.


-- 
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mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Harrisburg, PA, USA



Prevent file deleteion from samba shares

2001-10-21 Thread Meir Kriheli
I have trigger happy :-( windows users accessing samba shares on an internal 
network.

Once in a while those users inadvertly delete needed files. The software used 
by them requires write access to the directory.

Is there a way to prevent file deletion while keeping the write permissions 
to the folder ?

Or the least backup the files upon deletion on the samba shares ?

BTW
The system is Woody

Thanks.
-- 
Meir Kriheli



what on earth happened to the Debian menus in unstable???

2001-10-21 Thread Miles Bader
I run two debian systems, one with unstable, and one with testing.

In testing (and previously in unstable), the Debian `Apps' menu
(accessed through gnome) is nicely organized, looks nice, and is easy to
use.

In unstable, however (and I don't recall exactly when it changed), the
Apps menu is a huge blodgerous mess, with seemingly every other program
on the system stuck into the top-level Apps menu.  THe resulting menu is
so long that it overflows off the top and bottom of my screen.

So ... what happened?  Did lots of programs get added to the menus,
without enough thought about categorization?  Is something broken?

Thanks,

-Miles
-- 
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 beside the path, in the very darkest part of the forest?



Dist-upgrade to Woody: Can't open /var/lib/dhelp/titles

2001-10-21 Thread Morbo
Hi,

I'm trying to do a disp-upgrade to Woody and during the configuration phase
I get a lot of:
dhelp_parser: Can't open /var/lib/dhelp/titles

I've checked the file seems to be there but with 0 bytes length
I've tried to copy over the ones from my backup potato install
which was about 10k, but I've got the same message again, and
file size went back to 0.

titles is owned by root and has permissions of 644 (apparently)

Or does this matter at all?

Also the following packages just didn't want to configure properly
tetex-base
tetex-extra
jedtex

Any help is greatly appreciated!
Many thanks in advance!
regards,
Balazs



Re: Help needed starting audio

2001-10-21 Thread Stuart Luscombe
On Sun, Oct 21, 2001 at 08:18:43AM -0400, David Raeker-Jordan wrote:
 Stuart Luscombe wrote:
   
   Try adding the user to the audio group.
   
   `man addgroup`
  
  I don't actually have any system groups.
  Not as far as I know anyway, the only users are
  root and myself.
  
 
 Users and groups are different. /etc/group lists your groups.
 
 As user, type `groups`
 You will get the names of any groups the user belongs to.

I added the user into audio, this had no effect, so I then tried
adding user into root (not secure I know), but this still has
not worked. Root, on the other hand can still play music files
ok.

--
Stuart



Re: Debian 'woody' + Kernel 2.4.12 recompile + modules

2001-10-21 Thread Rob Weir
On Sat, Oct 20, 2001 at 10:44:08PM +1000, Tim Kane wrote:
 I'm new to debian itself, and seem to be having a problem with regard 
 to modules.
 
 I've succesfully compiled and booted with kernel 2.4.12 without a 
 problem. The issue I have is with missing modules. 
 
 I've done a 'make modules' and 'make modules_install' but upon 
 reboot, the system is unable to locate most of these modules.. I believe
 I've followed all the the HOWTO's I could find to the letter, to no
 avail.
 
 Anything I'm failing to do here?
 
 I am able to succesfully compile and install 2.4.12 + modules on other
 distro's without error, so something's up.
 
 Tim

You will be a much, much happier human being if you have a look at
kernel-package.
Experience the joy of:

root#cd /usr/src/linux-version.number/
root#make xconfig
root#make-kpkg kernel_image
root#dpkg -i ../kernel-image-version.number_thebox.1_i386.deb

and now you have a sucessfully installed kernel-image in /boot, a
beautifully ordered set of modules in /lib/modules/version.number/, an
updated LILO config, and, best of all, a kernel that can be removed (if
you're unhappy with it) with a simple:

root#dpkg --purge kernel-image-version.number

Once you have rebooted,

root#update-modules
root#modconf

Select the modules you would like loaded, and your work is done.

-rob


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Re: need a daemon that kills off memory hogs

2001-10-21 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Oct 19, 2001 at 06:37:18PM -0400, Avdi B. Grimm wrote:
 This is driving me nuts... every now and then, for one reason or
 another, some program(s) will gobble up all available memory (128MB RAM,
 256MB Swap) and effectively freeze the computer.  It's not a single,
 isolateable program, it's usually caused by something different each
 time.  Sometimes it caused by starting a huge memory hog like NetBeans
 while there are several X sessions running.  This last time it was
 because I accidentally told Konqueror to open up a few dozen large JPEGs
 at once, and it cheerfully started a few dozen instances of the image
 viewer program.  My mistake, to be sure, but an easy one to make.
   ^^
Not your mistake, this (or any other user-land program) should not crash the
OS.

 
 Now, I'm told the kernel (I'm running 2.4.8) has an out-of-memory
^
Upgrade.  Now.  Linus' kernels  2.4.10 are really quite crap when it comes
to dealing with virtual memory; I've got a P3/450 128Mb machine here, and
while running X it would gradually just eat up all my swap, while leaving
fat gobs of memory free.  Get yourself 2.4.12, which is working prefectly
for me, or one of the '12-ac patches from
ftp.countrycode.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/alan/ (IIRC).

Plus, it fixes a local symlink DOS attack and a local root exploit.

 handler which kills off memory hogs when the system runs out of memory.
 However, either it's not enabled, or it's idea of out-of-memory is a
 little different from mine.  This last instance,  the computer was

The out of memory handler only kicks in when the kernel has exhausted all
physical memory and all swap.  Running KDE with 128MB RAM/256MB swap should
not take you to this point.  It's more of a last-ditch effort to keep your
precious uptime than something that you should be encountering on a daily
basis;) 

 Back in my Mandrake days, I recall their being a daemon that was set up
 as part of a standard install, which as far as I could tell, did the
 following:  sat in the background, and periodically requested various
 services from running daemons (like httpd).  If the daemons took too
 long to respnd, indicating the computer was overloaded, it would start
 killing off misbehaving processes.  Unfortunately,  I can't recall the
 name of that daemon.  
 
 So, my question is, is there some package available for Debian that will
 do the same job as that unknown Mandrake daemon?   I'm getting sick and
 tired of having to hard-reset this thing every time it runs out of
 memory... reminds me too much of Win95.

Is this really what you want?  See if upgrading to 2.4.12 fixes this problem
(I'm pretty sure it will) first.  If not, then with RAM prices at an
all-time low, maybe you want to slap some more in?  Running a program that
goes around killing everyone else seems like an enormously hacky solution.

Also, I would imagine tha this would kill your VM system anyhow, since every
demon would regularily get woken up and swapped in to service a pointless
request, slowing down everything else on the system to no end.

-rob


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Re: debian hangs during boot (at fsck stage)

2001-10-21 Thread Alex Hunsley
Alex Hunsley wrote:
 
 Shaul Karl wrote:
 
  You might want to enter
 
  init=/bin/sh
 
  at the lilo prompt (assuming you have lilo) in order to skip the system
  initializations and check that partition manually with the file system
  debug/repair tools.
 
 Is there some magic way of entering text at the lilo prompt? I've tried typing
 during the brief pause when it says LILO but no text appears and booting just
 continues after the pause. Just before it says LILO it says MBR (master boot
 record I preume), does this have anything to do with it? If I hit a key just
 after MBR has appeared the text 1FR: appears after it but nothing much
 else.
 thanks
 alex

Sorry, should have done some reading before posting the above, my bad...

I've read the LILO howto and that says that pressing tab should do the trick,
or holding down alt or shift when the LILO bit comes up. But neither of these
action seem to make any difference - the machine continues booting regardless.

thanks
alex



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Now playing: nothing at all



Re: Debian 'woody' + Kernel 2.4.12 recompile + modules

2001-10-21 Thread joel_mayes
On Sat, Oct 20, 2001 at 10:44:08PM +1000, Tim Kane wrote:
 I'm new to debian itself, and seem to be having a problem with regard 
 to modules.
 
 I've succesfully compiled and booted with kernel 2.4.12 without a 
 problem. The issue I have is with missing modules. 
 
 I've done a 'make modules' and 'make modules_install' but upon 
 reboot, the system is unable to locate most of these modules.. I believe
 I've followed all the the HOWTO's I could find to the letter, to no
 avail.
 
 Anything I'm failing to do here?
 
 I am able to succesfully compile and install 2.4.12 + modules on other
 distro's without error, so something's up.


Try a 'depmod -a' than a reboot

Did you compile with 'make bzImage' or 'make-kpkg kernel_image' ?
Debian provides a really easy way to compile and install a new 
kernel as a .deb package which make removing old kernels or 
upgrade a new one a piece of cake.

apt-get install kernel-source-?.?.??
compress the kernel-source-?.?.??.tar.bz2 in /usr/src
then in the kernel-source- directory type
make-kpkg kernel_image, which will compile the kernel and any
internel modules, then if you've install any extra modules
ALSA, nVidia drivers ect. in the same directory do 
make-kpkg modules_image
then cd .. and use dpkg -i to install the newlt created .deb files

Cheers

Joel



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Re: Prevent file deleteion from samba shares

2001-10-21 Thread Alson van der Meulen
On Sun, Oct 21, 2001 at 02:26:16PM +0200, Meir Kriheli wrote:
 I have trigger happy :-( windows users accessing samba shares on an internal 
 network.
 
 Once in a while those users inadvertly delete needed files. The software used 
 by them requires write access to the directory.
 
 Is there a way to prevent file deletion while keeping the write permissions 
 to the folder ?
 
 Or the least backup the files upon deletion on the samba shares ?
chattr +i, will prevent any modification of the files. other way is a
script that periodically copies all files to a backup dir, this way
leaving deleted files in the backup dir, which you could manually restore
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libsdl1.2 problems :( -- debian unstable

2001-10-21 Thread Rohan Deshpande
Hi,

I was just wondering what is going on with libsdl1.2.  I can't install
zsnes and tuxracer so far; probably more packages will be broken.  Any
idea what to do?

Thanks,
Rohan



Re: Woody Gnome problems

2001-10-21 Thread Vittorio
Shaul Karl [debian-user] 21/10/01 09:20 +0200:
  I've just installed woody with xfree 4.1 and gnome 1.4, all from scratch.
  
  I've had some problems to launch X because issuing startx linux has
  been complaining that X was not executable. I've relinked X (which
  pointed to a non existent xserver_svga) to XFree86 and it all worked
  properly AS ROOT.
  
  Unfortunately, under a newly-defined user (dada) X invariably fails to
  start.  Now I've tried with the classical .xinitrc  .xsession with
  the only line gnome-session to no avail.
  
  What's wrong with it and what should I do or check?
  
  Vittorio
  
 
 
 What is written in /etc/X11/Xserver?
 -- 
 When responding, please quote my entire message.
 
 Shaul Karl [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi Shaul,

under /etc/X11/xserver there's only the file SecurityPolicy containing the 
folowing:



version-1 

# $Xorg: SecurityPolicy,v 1.3 2000/08/17 19:47:56 cpqbld Exp $

# The site policy fields are interpreted by the XC-QUERY-SECURITY-1
# authorization protocol.  The values are arbitrary and site-specific.
# Refer to the Security Extension Specification for the usage of the policies.
#sitepolicy A
#sitepolicy B
#sitepolicy C

# Property access rules:
# property property window permissions
# window ::= any | root | propertyselector
# propertyselector ::= property | property=value
# permissions :== [ operation | action | space ]*
# operation :== r | w | d
#   r   read
#   w   write
#   d   delete
# action :== a | i | e
#   a   allow
#   i   ignore
#   e   error

# Allow reading of application resources, but not writing.
property RESOURCE_MANAGER   rootar iw
property SCREEN_RESOURCES   rootar iw

# Ignore attempts to use cut buffers.  Giving errors causes apps to crash,
# and allowing access may give away too much information.
property CUT_BUFFER0rootirw
property CUT_BUFFER1rootirw
property CUT_BUFFER2rootirw
property CUT_BUFFER3rootirw
property CUT_BUFFER4rootirw
property CUT_BUFFER5rootirw
property CUT_BUFFER6rootirw
property CUT_BUFFER7rootirw

# If you are using Motif, you probably want these.
property _MOTIF_DEFAULT_BINDINGSrootar iw
property _MOTIF_DRAG_WINDOW rootar iw
property _MOTIF_DRAG_TARGETSany ar iw
property _MOTIF_DRAG_ATOMS  any ar iw
property _MOTIF_DRAG_ATOM_PAIRS any ar iw

# If you are running CDE you also need these
property _MOTIF_WM_INFO rootarw
property TT_SESSION rootirw
property WM_ICON_SIZE   rootirw
property SDT Pixel Setany irw

# The next two rules let xwininfo -tree work when untrusted.
property WM_NAMEany ar

# Allow read of WM_CLASS, but only for windows with WM_NAME.
# This might be more restrictive than necessary, but demonstrates
# the required property facility, and is also an attempt to
# say top level windows only.
property WM_CLASS   WM_NAME ar

# These next three let xlsclients work untrusted.  Think carefully
# before including these; giving away the client machine name and command
# may be exposing too much.
property WM_STATE   WM_NAME ar
property WM_CLIENT_MACHINE  WM_NAME ar
property WM_COMMAND WM_NAME ar

# To let untrusted clients use the standard colormaps created by
# xstdcmap, include these lines.
property RGB_DEFAULT_MAProotar
property RGB_BEST_MAP   rootar
property RGB_RED_MAProotar
property RGB_GREEN_MAP  rootar
property RGB_BLUE_MAP   rootar
property RGB_GRAY_MAP   rootar

# To let untrusted clients use the color management database created
# by xcmsdb, include these lines.
property XDCCC_LINEAR_RGB_CORRECTIONrootar
property XDCCC_LINEAR_RGB_MATRICES  rootar
property XDCCC_GRAY_SCREENWHITEPOINTrootar
property XDCCC_GRAY_CORRECTION  rootar

# To let untrusted clients use the overlay visuals that many vendors
# support, include this line.
property SERVER_OVERLAY_VISUALS rootar




I'm new to it, I was accostumed to 3.3.6.

What's next?

Vittorio













increase parport speed?

2001-10-21 Thread Rohan Deshpande
Hi,

I have a printer attached to LPT1, and it takes very long to print and
to spool.  Is there a way to increase the speed of the parallel port, or
is this not the problem?

I use CUPS + cupsomatic + pnm2ppa

Thanks,
Rohan



Re: libsdl1.2 problems :( -- debian unstable

2001-10-21 Thread Colin Watson
On Sun, Oct 21, 2001 at 09:46:06AM -0500, Rohan Deshpande wrote:
 I was just wondering what is going on with libsdl1.2.  I can't install
 zsnes and tuxracer so far; probably more packages will be broken.  Any
 idea what to do?

Wait until the transition to libsdl1.2debian is complete. (For details
on why this transition was necessary, read this month's debian-devel
archives.)

-- 
Colin Watson  [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: RSH and SSH -- the same in Debian?

2001-10-21 Thread Colin Watson
On Sun, Oct 21, 2001 at 01:20:28PM +0200, Raffaele Sandrini wrote:
 I'd like to use rsh. Yes my network is 100% secure cause its not
 connected to anything insecure.
 But i think there is no rsh in Debian. If i type man rsh i get the
 manpage of ssh. If i execute rsh i get ssh...

Sounds like you want to install the rsh-client package. If you don't
have that installed, ssh provides /usr/bin/rsh and its man page. (The
setup is managed using alternatives.)

Cheers,

-- 
Colin Watson  [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: libsdl1.2 problems :( -- debian unstable

2001-10-21 Thread David Z Maze
Rohan Deshpande [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
RD I was just wondering what is going on with libsdl1.2.  I can't install
RD zsnes and tuxracer so far; probably more packages will be broken.  Any
RD idea what to do?

For a start, look through the Debian Bug Tracking System
(http://bugs.debian.org/); there's already a this doesn't work bug
against tuxracer (#116367), but not zsnes.  If it requires more than a
simple recompile against newer packages to work, including a patch
against the package source in your bug report can be helpful.

Remember, it's called unstable for a reason; this sort of breakage
tends to be fairly typical as developers shuffle packages around.

-- 
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Theoretical politics is interesting.  Politicking should be illegal.
-- Abra Mitchell



Re: libsdl1.2 problems :( -- debian unstable

2001-10-21 Thread Marc Wilson
On Sun, Oct 21, 2001 at 09:46:06AM -0500, Rohan Deshpande wrote:

 I was just wondering what is going on with libsdl1.2.  I can't install
 zsnes and tuxracer so far; probably more packages will be broken.  Any
 idea what to do?

Certainly... wait for those packages to be rebuilt against the new
libsdl1.2 or complain to the maintainer of them.  File bugs.  Personally I
waited until the majority of the SDL-using apps that I care about had been
rebuilt against libsdl1.2debian before I allowed it to upgrade.

Oh, and you can add falconseye to that list.

Welcome to unstable.  You are in no way guaranteed to be able to install
all packages at all times.

-- 
Marc Wilson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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Re: Help needed starting audio

2001-10-21 Thread Colin Watson
On Sun, Oct 21, 2001 at 02:18:18PM +, Stuart Luscombe wrote:
 On Sun, Oct 21, 2001 at 08:18:43AM -0400, David Raeker-Jordan wrote:
  Users and groups are different. /etc/group lists your groups.
  
  As user, type `groups`
  You will get the names of any groups the user belongs to.
 
 I added the user into audio, this had no effect,

You'll need to log out and log back in (or use the 'newgrp' program, but
that only affects your current shell) before adding yourself to a
different group takes effect.

 so I then tried adding user into root (not secure I know), but this
 still has not worked.

The root group is different from the root user. Yes, this is a little
confusing.

Cheers,

-- 
Colin Watson  [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: debian hangs during boot (at fsck stage)

2001-10-21 Thread Blars Blarson
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Is there some magic way of entering text at the lilo prompt? I've tried typing
during the brief pause when it says LILO but no text appears and booting just
continues after the pause.

The default debian lilo configuration does not prompt.  Add prompt
and possbily timeout to your /etc/lilo.conf and rerun lilo.  See the
lilo.conf man page for details. 

Acording to the lilo man page, it should be posibly to get a prompt by
hitting shift at the proper moment.  I've never done this.
-- 
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Re: Help needed starting audio

2001-10-21 Thread Stuart Luscombe
On Sun, Oct 21, 2001 at 09:17:23AM -0500, Colin Watson wrote:
 On Sun, Oct 21, 2001 at 02:18:18PM +, Stuart Luscombe wrote:
  On Sun, Oct 21, 2001 at 08:18:43AM -0400, David Raeker-Jordan wrote:
   Users and groups are different. /etc/group lists your groups.
   
   As user, type `groups`
   You will get the names of any groups the user belongs to.
  
  I added the user into audio, this had no effect,
 
 You'll need to log out and log back in (or use the 'newgrp' program, but
 that only affects your current shell) before adding yourself to a
 different group takes effect.
 
  so I then tried adding user into root (not secure I know), but this
  still has not worked.
 
 The root group is different from the root user. Yes, this is a little
 confusing.

I spoke to a mate of mine and he suggested doing chmod 777 
/dev/(audio/dsp/mixer), which I did, it now works OK ;)

--
Stuart

---Current music track: Metallica - Master of Puppets---



Re: what on earth happened to the Debian menus in unstable???

2001-10-21 Thread J.H.M. Dassen \(Ray\)
On Sun, Oct 21, 2001 at 21:35:02 +0900, Miles Bader wrote:
 In unstable, however (and I don't recall exactly when it changed), the
 Apps menu is a huge blodgerous mess, with seemingly every other program on
 the system stuck into the top-level Apps menu.  THe resulting menu is so
 long that it overflows off the top and bottom of my screen.

I have no such problems on my up to date unstable system. Please provide
relevant details: window manager, version of the menu package, output of
update-menus -v or even update-menus -v -d, actual menu file(s) being
generated (see /etc/menu-methods/) etc.

Ray
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to cheat them out of and didn't manage. See also DISHONESTY, SNEAKY, 
UNDERHAND and JUST LUCKY I GUESS. 
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