kernel upgrade problem

2002-02-03 Thread Deva Seetharam
hi all,
i have a dual pentium (coppermine) processor machine and i was running kernel
version 2.2.19. i am trying to upgrade to kernel 2.4.17.

when i installed the kernel-image 2.4.17 and rebooted the machine, 
i got the message
Total of 2 Processors activated (3742.10 BogoMIPS).

Enabling IO-APIC IRQs
Setting 2 in the phys_id_present_map
...changing io-apic physical APIC ID to 2 ... ok
.. TIME: vector=0x31 pin1=2 pin2=0

and the machine hangs after this message.
what is going on?

any help would be gratefully appreciated,
deva


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Re: internet connection - Thanks, Ben!

2002-02-03 Thread Klaus Neumann
---Original Message---
From: ben
Date: Sunday, February 03, 2002 08:05:11 PM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: internet connection - was: solved: CS4236 ...
On Sunday 03 February 2002 06:33 pm, Klaus Neumann wrote:
[big snip]
the fact that you can access the nameservers from your girlfriend's machine
suggests that it is, indeed, a configuration problem on the linux box. as i
said, it's all mighty weird. you still haven't given us a post of
/etc/network/interfaces. even though that might not be the problem, just for

the sake of ruling it out, post the contents of that.

Okay, here it comes:
# /etc/network/interfaces -- configuration file for ifup(8), ifdown(8)
# The loopback interface
auto lo
iface lo inet loopback
# The first network card - this entry was created during the Debian
installation
# (network, broadcast and gateway are optional)
iface eth0 inet static
 address 192.168.1.1
 netmask 255.255.255.0
 network 192.168.1.0
 broadcast 192.168.1.255
 gateway 192.168.1.1

I compared your files with mine and could not find anything different. I
also tried to use pon/poff for the connection. Same thing. Okay, I'll
re-install tomorrow.
Thanks a lot for your time and for trying to help! I really appreciate it.
Best regards,
Klaus



Auctex/LaTeX/Emacs problem

2002-02-03 Thread Ryan Claycamp
I have lost the color markings in xemacs when I edit a LaTeX file.  I
am running woody and I think it happened after I updated to the new
version of auctex.  I noticed that when auctex installed, it said
something like emacsen ignoring flavor xemacs.  How do I get the color
back in xemacs when it is editing LaTeX files?  I really enjoyed that
feature.

Ryan
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mysterious kernel panic at start up and it's workaround

2002-02-03 Thread Aaron Brashears
I upgraded my kernel using the prepackaged 2.4.17 pentium pro
kernel. On bootup, I get the following message:

Request_module[block-major-3] Root fs not mounted
VFS: Cannot open root device "303" or 03:03
Please append a correct "root=" boot option
Kernel panic: VFS: unable to mount root fs on 03:03


The funny thing is that if I use the append root=/dev/hda3 in
lilo.conf, it doesn't work. However if I load the debian rescue disk
and specify root=/dev/hda3, the kernel boots fine. Why won't it just
boot? 

I've partitioned my drive to use /dev/hda1 as /boot and /dev/hda3.



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2002-02-03 Thread Wayne Topa
Wayne Topa([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
> dman([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
> > On Sun, Feb 03, 2002 at 11:48:52AM -0500, Wayne Topa wrote:
> > | dman([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
> > 
> > | > SpamAssassin does a pretty good job of tagging these so I can
> > | > automagically dump them.
> > | 
> > | Then I am doing something wrong.  Spamassassin doesn't do anything
> > | with them except put in  "X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0 required=5
> > | tests=".
> > |  
> > | Must be a configuration problem but I sure can't find it. :-(
> > 
> > Are you using 'spamc' or 'spamassassin' as the filter?  If spamc, is
> > spamd running?  If you use "spamc -f" and there is a problem
> > communicating with the daemon, then the message is returned as
> > non-spam.  spamd logs connections in syslog (also 'xconsole' shows the
> > messages). 
> > 
> > Save the message to a file and run it through
> > spamc -f | egrep "X-Spam|SPAM"
> 
> spamc
> 
> spamc -f < mail/spam-test | egrep "X-Spam|SPAM"  produces
> X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0 required=5 tests=
> 
> /var/log/syslog shows  
> Feb  3 15:50:04 prince spamd[25251]: connection from localhost [127.0.0.1 ] 
> at port 4344
> Feb  3 15:50:05 prince spamd[5841]: processed successfully for mail:8 in   2 
> seconds
> 
> Just got another one and it shows "X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0
> required=5 tests="  again.  It has to be something I haven't done
> right in spamassassin.cf/.prefs.  I have not added any tests to the
> end of .prefs

Dah!!!

Just found the problem.  I am running version 1.5-5.  I followed the
directions in /usr/share/doc/spamassassin/README.gz.  Thought it
didn't seem right but /etc/spamassassin.cf was just like
/home/.spamassassin.cf.  Then I, finally, took a look at 
/usr/share/spamassassin/spamassassin.cf.  Gee, wonder why that file
has all those tests in it and the one in /etc doesn't

Copied /usr/share/spamassassin/spamassassin.cf to /etc and 'now' it 
it works as advertised!  Doh.  My bad, read the docs, read the
readme's but didn't see the default .cf file.  Wonder why the default
wasn't loaded into /etc on installation?

Thanks dman.
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CN810 motherboard

2002-02-03 Thread Larry W Stains
> Hi Steve,
> I ran across your discussion on the web about the CN810 motherboard.
> I am trying to find a audio driver for the audio controller chip on the CN810
> board. Can you help me in any way? I sure would appreciate any help you 
> can offer. The chip numbers are: 
> FW82801AA
>   F1281027
>  SL3Z2
>   Intel ??'99
>   Philippines
> This is exactly the way the numbers are on the chip, except for the ??. They
> are just two symbols that Intel uses for ID, I guess.
> There are also 8 jumpers, J1 through J8. Can you tell me what they are 
> for?
> I know that one of them disables the onboard audio, but I don't know which 
> one. Would sure appreciate a response ASAP.
> Thanks,
> Larry
> 



Re: internet connection - was: solved: CS4236 ...

2002-02-03 Thread ben
On Sunday 03 February 2002 06:33 pm, Klaus Neumann wrote:
[big snip]

the fact that you can access the nameservers from your girlfriend's machine 
suggests that it is, indeed, a configuration problem on the linux box. as i 
said, it's all mighty weird. you still haven't given us a post of 
/etc/network/interfaces. even though that might not be the problem, just for 
the sake of ruling it out, post the contents of that.

that dpkg -C brings you back to the prompt means that everything that you 
have installed is properly configured as far as installation is concerned. 
what remains is the question of how what is installed that is user 
configurable is actually configured. the best i can do is to send you the 
configs that render my machine functional for net access, so here goes:

[/etc/wvdial.conf]
Modem = /dev/ttyS1
Baud = 57600
Init = ATZ
Init2 = AT S11=50
Phone = 
Username = benfoley
Password = 
Dial Command = ATDP

[/etc/resolv.conf]
search rcn.com
(these ip numbers apply only to rcn.com)
nameserver 207.172.3.9
nameserver 207.172.3.10
nameserver 207.172.3.11


[/etc/host.conf]
order hosts,bind
multi on

[/etc/hosts]
### etherconf DEBCONF AREA. DO NOT EDIT THIS AREA OR INSERT TEXT BEFORE IT.
127.0.0.1   localhost   
### END OF DEBCONF AREA.  PLACE YOUR EDITS BELOW; THEY WILL BE PRESERVED.


# The following lines are desirable for IPv6 capable hosts
# (added automatically by netbase upgrade)

::1 ip6-localhost ip6-loopback
fe00::0 ip6-localnet
ff00::0 ip6-mcastprefix
ff02::1 ip6-allnodes
ff02::2 ip6-allrouters
ff02::3 ip6-allhosts

these are, to the best of my knowledge, the only significant config files 
relative to hooking up to the web. the other possiblility is that your isp 
may have some quirky setup condition that you've forgotten to include. 

good luck.



Re: devfs and ide-scsi devices

2002-02-03 Thread Jerome Acks Jr
On Mon, Feb 04, 2002 at 01:23:32PM +1100, Paul Hampson wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 03, 2002 at 07:57:41PM -0500, Jerome Acks Jr wrote:
> > Problem: devfs & devfsd do not create /dev/cdroms and /dev/tapes and
> > related symbolic links.
> > 

[snip]

> > Any thoughts on how I can get devfs to create /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 and
> > /dev/tapes/tape0 and symbolic links to these devices? I haven't been
> > able to figure out how to do this from devfs FAQ and kernel
> > documentation or come across solutions searching with google.
> 
> I don't know about tape drives, but to get the /dev/cdroms/cdromx
> and /dev/scsi/host1/bus0/target1/lun0/cd devices, you need the
> scsi CD driver loaded. Then they'll exist. Presumably it's the
> same for the scsi tape driver as well.

Thanks, loading modules st and sr_mod created the tape and cd devices
and symbolic links.

...interesting...I've never had to load those modules before to get
tape or cdrom work. 
-- 
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Re: How to overburn CD's?

2002-02-03 Thread Marc Wilson
On Mon, Feb 04, 2002 at 01:40:43AM +, Jason Wood wrote:
> I have heard about overburning, but a search on google for "overburn linux" 
> seems to bring up one reference - namely to the CD-writing FAQ, where it just 
> says that cdrecord can handle overburning without doing anything special. 
> Checking out the cdrecord website, I cannot find any reference to overburning.

That's because you don't have to do anything special. ^_^
 
> My computer can burn cd's fine if I'm not trying to do this. Does anyone have 
> any idea what I am doing wrong, and how I can overburn a cd?

Unless your drive supports overburning, you're SOL.  It'll error out the
burn when it hits the capacity encoded on the CD (use 'cdrecord -atip' to
read the encoding on the media).

I've seen utilities for Windows that claim to be able to tell whether the
drive supports overburning, but they're not always accurate... for
instance, Nero claims that my NEC 7700A is overburnable and it isn't, both
according to the manufacturer's spec sheet and my own experience. ^_^

Because of this, I recently replaced it with a LG-4102B that definately IS
(I know because I've been overburning 80 min CD's and writing 90 minute
ones) plus it's also a DVD.

You could always just buy 80 minute CD's.

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Re: new Debian FAQs

2002-02-03 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi,
On Sat, Feb 02, 2002 at 01:52:27PM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote:
> Hi guys,
> If anyone has some time to go through Debian Planet, Debian Help and other
> similar sites and make a list of frequently asked questions, preferably with
> answers, please do, and send me the results. :)

FAQ is old and does not addresses much of the problems most first time
Debian convert will face.

My "Quick Reference" tried to address these issues.  It is a collection
of knowledge I gained mostly from debian-user.

It is in Debiandoc form and can be obtained from CVS as indicated on

   http://qref.sourceforge.net/quick/

Now this comes in English.  French is almost done.  Some Italian pages
available, too.

After basic installation manual, package handling is key for getting
things done.  Problem is for some complicated case, I have no way to
verify some details.  Those are collected here.

   http://qref.sourceforge.net/qref2/qref2.html/

All source are available as Debiandoc from CVS.

PS: Javier Fern?ndez-Sanguino Pe?a <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> contacted me last
week and he told me he will put my "Quick Reference" uploaded in DDP
site.
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modem

2002-02-03 Thread canducci



Tenho um Modem US Robotics 3595A PCI que não 
funciona no Linux Debian o que eu faço...
 


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2002-02-03 Thread Wayne Topa
dman([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
> On Sun, Feb 03, 2002 at 11:48:52AM -0500, Wayne Topa wrote:
> | dman([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
> 
> | > SpamAssassin does a pretty good job of tagging these so I can
> | > automagically dump them.
> | 
> | Then I am doing something wrong.  Spamassassin doesn't do anything
> | with them except put in  "X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0 required=5
> | tests=".
> |  
> | Must be a configuration problem but I sure can't find it. :-(
> 
> Are you using 'spamc' or 'spamassassin' as the filter?  If spamc, is
> spamd running?  If you use "spamc -f" and there is a problem
> communicating with the daemon, then the message is returned as
> non-spam.  spamd logs connections in syslog (also 'xconsole' shows the
> messages). 
> 
> Save the message to a file and run it through
> spamc -f | egrep "X-Spam|SPAM"

spamc

spamc -f < mail/spam-test | egrep "X-Spam|SPAM"  produces
X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0 required=5 tests=

/var/log/syslog shows  
Feb  3 15:50:04 prince spamd[25251]: connection from localhost [127.0.0.1 ] at 
port 4344
Feb  3 15:50:05 prince spamd[5841]: processed successfully for mail:8 in   2 
seconds

Just got another one and it shows "X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0
required=5 tests="  again.  It has to be something I haven't done
right in spamassassin.cf/.prefs.  I have not added any tests to the
end of .prefs


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Debian Perl packages, modules - how to cleanup extras

2002-02-03 Thread S. Taylor
What's Debian's procedure for installing and maintaining perl?

At the beginning, dselect insisted that packages for perl-5.004
and perl-5.005 be installed. Is it necessary

Other lib*-perl packages were installed and recently perl 5.6.1 was 
compiled, successfully, after most defaults were accepted. The result
is three sets of files.

What configuration do I change in what files to eliminate the
duplicate files? 

Can I (and how do I ) "hold" some packages while I clean up?

If more debian perl packages are installed, will perl 5.6.1 find them?

Should I add paths to a variable in ~/.cpan/CPAN/MyConfig.pm?

-
Perl* currently in $PATH:
perl   perl-5.004
perl-5.005 perl5.004
perl5.00405perl5.005
perl5.00503perl5.6.1
perlbug-5.004  perlbug-5.005
perlcc perlcc-5.005
perldocperldoc-5.004
perldoc-5.005

"dpkg -l lib*-perl" shows 22 packages installed 

 LocalWords:  perlcc perlcc perldoc perldoc



Warning: Type conversion failed

2002-02-03 Thread Xeno Campanoli
I get a little window saying this twice, one time right below the other,
as follows:

(HTML Title?: subprocess diagnostics)

Warning:  Type conversion failed
Warning:  Type conversion failed

[Okay button]

every time I bring up a new mail message window by hitting  on
the Communicator 4.77 on my stable distribution.  I've been
updating/upgrading frequently, so any bug fixes should have taken
place.  I've been seeing this now for possibly over two months since the
first time I posted something on it, so I thought I'd put in another QA
note.  Please pass it on, or yell at me if I'm being somehow obviously
stupid.  Among other things I'm using afterstep.  I'm probably leaving
out some important version information, but at least I'm saying it's the
latest stable I'm successfully update/upgrading.  I haven't seen it
upgrade Communicator though, which likely i would have remembered.

Getting into afterstep is also a bit klunky, but I'll address after this
bug is fixed.

Thanks.

Sincerely, Xeno Campanoli
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Warning: Type conversion failed

2002-02-03 Thread Xeno Campanoli
I get a little window saying this twice, one time right below the other,
as follows:

(HTML Title?: subprocess diagnostics)

Warning:  Type conversion failed
Warning:  Type conversion failed

[Okay button]

every time I bring up a new mail message window by hitting  on
the Communicator 4.77 on my stable distribution.  I've been
updating/upgrading frequently, so any bug fixes should have taken
place.  I've been seeing this now for possibly over two months since the
first time I posted something on it, so I thought I'd put in another QA
note.  Please pass it on, or yell at me if I'm being somehow obviously
stupid.  Among other things I'm using afterstep.  I'm probably leaving
out some important version information, but at least I'm saying it's the
latest stable I'm successfully update/upgrading.  I haven't seen it
upgrade Communicator though, which likely i would have remembered.

Getting into afterstep is also a bit klunky, but I'll address after this
bug is fixed.

Thanks.

Sincerely, Xeno Campanoli
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Re: passwd segfaulting

2002-02-03 Thread Eric-Olivier Lamey
On Sun, Feb 03, 2002 at 04:17, Bill Bell wrote:
> I started compairing these files you listed above between my Sid machine 
> (working) and the broken Woody box. I found that /etc/pam.d/passed was an 
> exact 
> copy of /etc/passwd on the Woody box.  The Sid box had a totally 

  Hmm, that's a *major* bug. These two files don't have anything in
  common.

> different /etc/pam.d/passwd file (attached).  On the Woody box I found the 
> correct backup file in /etc/pam.d/passwd.orig.  I moved this 
> into /etc/pam.d/passwd and all is well!  Perhaps one of the Woody updates 
> broke 
> this file at some time in the past.

  What surprises me is that you seem to be the only one in that
  situation. Have you looked at the date of the passwd.orig file ?
  It would have given you an idea of the time where it broke.

> Thanks for the help.

  You're welcome.

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devfs & DVD

2002-02-03 Thread Mircea Luca

Hi everybody

I just spend the last 2 hours reading the various docs on the net, the 
devfsd manpage
and /etc/init.d/devfsd but still can't figure out how to create a 
symlink /dev/dvd --> /dev/hdd.

The symlink shall be persistent between reboots. Any help appreciated .
I'm running sid with kernel 2.4.16 in case it matters.

Please cc me or respond directly since I unsubscribed about a month 
ago.Right now I can't

put up with the volume of this list.

Thanks



Re: can't KILL tty

2002-02-03 Thread ben
On Sunday 03 February 2002 06:24 pm, Tony Green wrote:
> On Mon, 2002-02-04 at 13:19, ben wrote:
> > On Sunday 03 February 2002 05:27 pm, Lance Hoffmeyer wrote:
> > > Any suggestions on how to kill a tty that is frozen without
> > > rebooting?  I have tried
> > >
> > > slay lance
> > > skill tty2
> > > skill KILL tty2
> > > skill NOHUP tty2
> > > skill HUP tty2
> > >
> > > lance
> >
> > kill -9 
>
> Useless without the pid - which judging by the examples - the OP didn't
> have.
>
> Try fuser -9 -k /dev/tty2, that will kill all processes using tty2
>

you're right. i should have said 



Re: internet connection - was: solved: CS4236 ...

2002-02-03 Thread Klaus Neumann
Just got home from work ... thanks for your reply ...

---Original Message---

to check that all of your installed apps are properly configured, do
dpkg -C

This gives me a new prompt after about two seconds. Nothing more.

and post the results of that. there may be something else that screwed up.
if
the command above runs cleanly, bringing you back to a prompt without error
messages, then everything is in order, as far as what's been installed so
far
is concerned.
if you can't ping your nameserver, then you're not going to get anything out

of whois, either. whois  would return domain
name
registration info for whatever address you give it. for instance, here's a
smidge of what whois tells me about whidbey.net:
Administrative Contact:
Denka, Mike (MD135) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
WhidbeyNet
14888 SR 525
Langley, WA 98260
US
(360) 341-0009
doesn't really matter, right now, though.

Interesting! I'll explore this further once I'll be online again. Thanks for
the demonstration!

it also doesn't matter that you use wvdial--it's a fine dialer; there are
many others, as well, but the point is it's not going to be the cause of the

kind of problem you're having.
are you using the same machine to send mail to the list.

No, I'm using my girlfriend's M$-ME-computer to write to the list. Both are
networked (LAN). Normally we use the Linux box as a router. Btw, both
computers use the same phoneline, so, right now I have to disconnect the one
to use the other and vice versa. This shows that the phoneline is okay. I
can ping at least the first nameserver from Windows. So, that confirms, that
nameserver and IP are so far okay, right?

 if so, then you're
connection is staying alive, so it's not that. that you're not getting a
fast
answer to your problem is due to the fact that it's mighty weird what's
going
on there. check /etc/network/interfaces. on my system, the important part of

it looks like this:
auto lo
iface lo inet loopback

I didn't have "auto lo", added it, but it didn't make any difference. :-(

if yours doesn't, then that could be the source of the problem.
try to think of what is different about the new installation, and start
making notes of anything you may have been unsure about in the course of the

initial configuration.

I'll certainly do so with the next install. Good idea!

are there any alternative dns ip's available at your isp; ie, can you be
certain that the isp isn't having a dns problem right now, or may even have
changed their dns servers? it has been know to happen.

I called them yesterday, and they claimed nothing has changed on their side.

are you sure that
you're dialing into the right number? are there optional numbers that you
can
try? is there anyone you can call who uses the same setup to connect to the
web to check that? this actually happened to me--i had the last digit wrong
by one; the call was answered by a modem and i thought i was connected but
couldn't get anywhere. in fact, you should also check /etc.wvdial.conf to
make sure that you have the right baud setting for the modem you're dialling

into.

Yes, I double checked phone # and baud rate, compared with the other
computer's config. Everything okay here.

wvdial gives me at the end:
PPP session from (some-IP-address) to some-IP-address beginning "lots of
weird keystrokes"
--> PPP negotiation detected.
--> Starting pppd at date time

Does this look okay to you? As far as I remember it was the same when it
actually worked with the last install. I can ping both of those IP-addresses
 which I assume are the dynamic addresses for my, and the remote system?


the main thing is, don't get hung up on what you can't do. focus more on the

fact that there is, however elusive, a logical reason behind the problem,
and
its solution is going to involve a wealth of understanding that can't be
bought by any other means than having the problem in the first place. it's a

good lesson.

That's an interesting way to see it! ;-) Yes, you're certainly right.
Anyway, I'm tempted to suggest a complete new install. This might get things
straight, but then I (we) will never get to know what the problem was. This
is the part I don't like about the idea. What's your opinion?

by the way, you live in one of my favorite parts of the world. if i could,
i'd be living on orcas, sucking in that chlorophyl.

What keeps you from doing so? The Pudget Sound is the most beautiful area I
ever saw. I just hope the INS will allow me to stay here!

Klaus



Re: can't KILL tty

2002-02-03 Thread Tony Green
On Mon, 2002-02-04 at 13:19, ben wrote:
> On Sunday 03 February 2002 05:27 pm, Lance Hoffmeyer wrote:
> > Any suggestions on how to kill a tty that is frozen without
> > rebooting?  I have tried
> >
> > slay lance
> > skill tty2
> > skill KILL tty2
> > skill NOHUP tty2
> > skill HUP tty2
> >
> > lance
> 
> kill -9 
> 

Useless without the pid - which judging by the examples - the OP didn't
have.

Try fuser -9 -k /dev/tty2, that will kill all processes using tty2

HTH

Greeno
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Re: devfs and ide-scsi devices

2002-02-03 Thread Paul Hampson
On Sun, Feb 03, 2002 at 07:57:41PM -0500, Jerome Acks Jr wrote:
> Problem: devfs & devfsd do not create /dev/cdroms and /dev/tapes and
> related symbolic links.
> 
> woody box
> devfsd 1.3.21-3
> stock kernel-image 2.4.17-386
> Modules loaded that pertain to scsi: sg, aic7xxx, ide-probe-mod,
> ide-scsi, sd_mod and scsi_mod
> devfs is mounted at boot by including "devfs=mount" at lilo boot prompt
> 
> Extract from /var/log/dmesg for these devices:
> 
> hdc: HP COLORADO 8GB, ATAPI TAPE drive 
> hdd: CD-ROM 48X/AKU, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive   
> [snip]
> PCI: Found IRQ 10 for device 00:09.0
> scsi0 : Adaptec AIC7XXX EISA/VLB/PCI SCSI HBA DRIVER, Rev 6.2.4
> 
> aic7880: Single Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/253 SCBs
> 
> (scsi0:A:6:0): refuses synchronous negotiation. Using asynchronous
> transfers
>   Vendor: IOMEGAModel: ZIP 100   Rev: K.05
>   Type:   Direct-Access  ANSI SCSI revision: 02
> scsi1 : SCSI host adapter emulation for IDE ATAPI devices
>   Vendor: HPModel: COLORADO 8GB  Rev: 2.08
>   Type:   Sequential-Access  ANSI SCSI revision: 02
>   Vendor: E-IDE Model: CD-ROM 48X/AKURev: U22
>   Type:   CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 02
> 
> /dev lists these devices for the cdrom and tape:
> 
> 1) /dev/ide/host0/bus1/target0/lun0
> 2) /dev/ide/host0/bus1/target1/lun0
> 3) /dev/scsi/host1/bus0/target0/lun0/generic
> 4) /dev/scsi/host1/bus0/target1/lun0/generic
> 5) /dev/sg1 [symlink to #3]
> 6) /dev/sg2 [symlink to #4]

> Without devfs mounted, cdrom is  /dev/scd0, and tape is /dev/st0 or
> /dev/nst0.
> 
> Any thoughts on how I can get devfs to create /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 and
> /dev/tapes/tape0 and symbolic links to these devices? I haven't been
> able to figure out how to do this from devfs FAQ and kernel
> documentation or come across solutions searching with google.

I don't know about tape drives, but to get the /dev/cdroms/cdromx
and /dev/scsi/host1/bus0/target1/lun0/cd devices, you need the
scsi CD driver loaded. Then they'll exist. Presumably it's the
same for the scsi tape driver as well.

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Re: can't KILL tty

2002-02-03 Thread ben
On Sunday 03 February 2002 05:27 pm, Lance Hoffmeyer wrote:
> Any suggestions on how to kill a tty that is frozen without
> rebooting?  I have tried
>
> slay lance
> skill tty2
> skill KILL tty2
> skill NOHUP tty2
> skill HUP tty2
>
> lance

kill -9 



Re: How to enable EXT3 FS on 2.4

2002-02-03 Thread Osamu Aoki
Herbert,

I am confusedi by your comment.  (I know you know better but it does not
make sense to me.)

On Sun, Feb 03, 2002 at 09:39:39AM +1100, Herbert Xu wrote:
> Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >> > # cd /etc; mv fstab fstab.old
> >> > # sed 's/ext2/ext3,ext2/g' fstab  # forged to be better :)
> >> 
> >> mkinitrd -o /boot/initrd.img-2.4.17-686-smp /lib/modules/2.4.17-686-smp
> >> lilo
> 
> > It does not harm but kernel-image already comes with initrd image and it
> > runs lilo during "install".  Is there any specific reason why this
> > command needs to be run again?
> 
> Because you've changed fstab which contains the root filesystem type...

I did not remount.  So root FS is still ext2 until reboot.  Besides,
file location of all files (kernel image, initrd image is stationally)

I thought lilo care only physical location.  That is the reason behind
why it can put kernel image in DOS partition.

> You could also simply reinstall kernel-image of course.

I did install kernel-image before editing fstab.  Is not it enough?
I greped source of lilo and I only see "fstab" in configuration scripts
(liloconfig, lilo_find_mbr) which are not used and will not be affected
by my fstab edit.

I am sorry to bug you :-(  (I think my system is working fine by the
process I described.)

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How to overburn CD's?

2002-02-03 Thread Jason Wood
Hi,

I am trying to create an audio CD... trouble is that it runs to about 76 
minutes in length and the blank CD's that I have are only the standard 74 
minute versions.

I have heard about overburning, but a search on google for "overburn linux" 
seems to bring up one reference - namely to the CD-writing FAQ, where it just 
says that cdrecord can handle overburning without doing anything special. 
Checking out the cdrecord website, I cannot find any reference to overburning.

I don't understand how to use cdrecord from the commandline, so I normally 
use either KreateCD or xcdroast - but neither of these has an option to 
overburn a CD, and either flatly refuse to try, or fail after writing 74 
minutes worth of music.

My computer can burn cd's fine if I'm not trying to do this. Does anyone have 
any idea what I am doing wrong, and how I can overburn a cd?

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Re: can't KILL tty

2002-02-03 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Sun, Feb 03, 2002 at 07:27:21PM -0600, Lance Hoffmeyer wrote:
> Any suggestions on how to kill a tty that is frozen without
> rebooting?  I have tried 
> 
> slay lance
> skill tty2
> skill KILL tty2
> skill NOHUP tty2
> skill HUP tty2

How about raw command
# su
# ps aux| grep tty2
... see process number
# kill x 

Here, x is the process number.

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can't KILL tty

2002-02-03 Thread Lance Hoffmeyer
Any suggestions on how to kill a tty that is frozen without
rebooting?  I have tried 

slay lance
skill tty2
skill KILL tty2
skill NOHUP tty2
skill HUP tty2

lance
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 experience of you is not "inside" me.  It is simply you, as I experience you.
  And I do not experience you as inside me.  Similarily, I take it that you do
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Re: unsubscribe

2002-02-03 Thread csj
On Sun, 3 Feb 2002 16:17:37 -0800 (PST)
"Paul 'Baloo' Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Mon, 4 Feb 2002, csj wrote:
> 
> > > unsubscribe
> >
> > I think you have to place the "unsubscribe" in the subject line (as in
> > this email).
> 
> That won't work.

If it did wouldn't get two copies of your post ;-) But I did get
this strange email from [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

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Your mail to 'Debian-user' with the subject

 unsubscribe

 Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval.
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So maybe you can unsubscribe through this list. It seems that email with
the subject of "unsubscribe" gets flagged and forwarded to the list
moderator. I'm just curious though. Would an "unsubscribe" compounded
with other words ["unsubscribe me you *&[EMAIL PROTECTED] lusers!]" also 
trigger the
filter?

> > CC'ed to the list so you don't get more copies of this same advice:
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> That will.  Same with going to http://lists.debian.org/

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Re: X configuration problem

2002-02-03 Thread ben
On Sunday 03 February 2002 04:20 pm, Kapil Khosla wrote:
>  Hi,
> There seems to be a problem in my keyboard map when I try to install X on
> my Toshiba laptop.
>
> I am installing woody and it creates the file
> xf86config -v3 , if i run that it doesnt actually modify my xf86config file
> as the changes i make to the modes etc are not reflected in the file after
> reboot. (fbset -s)
>
> So i ran xf86config file and it gives me a warning before
> setting up keyboard settings
> XKB rules file in
> /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/rules/xfree86 not found
>
> and there is nothing in this path and also in
> /etc/X11/xkb/rules/
>
> My default server is XF86_SVGA (/etc/X11/Xserver)
> and my sources.list is as follows
>
> deb http://ftp.lug.udel.edu/debian woody main contrib non-free
> deb http://ftp.lug.udel.edu/debian-non-US woody non-US/main
>
>
> I wonder what is going wrong.If someone thinks he can solve my problem i
> will mail my xf86config files as i dont want to clutter the list with huge
> mails,

the more relevant file to post would be /var/log/XFree86.0.log. it kinda 
sounds like your x installation is broken. try running dpkg -C. that will 
return info about unconfigured packages.



gnome-session multiple apps startup

2002-02-03 Thread Lance Hoffmeyer
I just installed gnome-session and when I did I start getting multiple apps
opening up at startup.  Before I had one instance of xdaliclock opening
up.  Now I have four.  A few other apps do this as well.  Instead of one
opening up 2-3 open up.  What should I do to stop this from happening?

I think this has been handled before on the list but I could not
find it on a google search so I apologies for the repetition.

Lance

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Re: Segfaults in seemingly unrelated programs

2002-02-03 Thread Rick Macdonald
On Sun, 3 Feb 2002, Rob Mahurin wrote:

> On Sat, Feb 02, 2002 at 08:52:36PM -0700, Rick Macdonald wrote:
> > On Sat, 2 Feb 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > 
> > I had similar symptoms once. Segfaults and apparently corrupted disk
> > files. It turned out to be a bad memory SIMM. Try running memtest86 for
> > awhile (10 minutes to an hour or more; depends on how much memory you have
> > and how fast the cpu is).
> > 
> > After I replaced the memory, I reinstalled all packages "in-place"
> > (declining any config files) to refresh any files that may have been bad.
> > Made me feel better, at least.
> 
> I had the same thought, though I'm not sure how an overheated CPU fan
> could damage the memory.  It seems more likely that the libraries Jim
> mentions are corrupted, and the one program that works is somehow
> "lucky".  A memtest couldn't hurt, though.

My SIMM went "bad" after 10 months _without_ overheating anything. I would
give the same advice even in the absense of the heating issue. Can't hurt!
:-)

...RickM...



devfs and ide-scsi devices

2002-02-03 Thread Jerome Acks Jr
Problem: devfs & devfsd do not create /dev/cdroms and /dev/tapes and
related symbolic links.

woody box
devfsd 1.3.21-3
stock kernel-image 2.4.17-386
Modules loaded that pertain to scsi: sg, aic7xxx, ide-probe-mod,
ide-scsi, sd_mod and scsi_mod
devfs is mounted at boot by including "devfs=mount" at lilo boot prompt

Extract from /var/log/dmesg for these devices:

hdc: HP COLORADO 8GB, ATAPI TAPE drive 
hdd: CD-ROM 48X/AKU, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive   
[snip]
PCI: Found IRQ 10 for device 00:09.0
scsi0 : Adaptec AIC7XXX EISA/VLB/PCI SCSI HBA DRIVER, Rev 6.2.4

aic7880: Single Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/253 SCBs

(scsi0:A:6:0): refuses synchronous negotiation. Using asynchronous
transfers
  Vendor: IOMEGAModel: ZIP 100   Rev: K.05
  Type:   Direct-Access  ANSI SCSI revision: 02
scsi1 : SCSI host adapter emulation for IDE ATAPI devices
  Vendor: HPModel: COLORADO 8GB  Rev: 2.08
  Type:   Sequential-Access  ANSI SCSI revision: 02
  Vendor: E-IDE Model: CD-ROM 48X/AKURev: U22
  Type:   CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 02

/dev lists these devices for the cdrom and tape:

1) /dev/ide/host0/bus1/target0/lun0
2) /dev/ide/host0/bus1/target1/lun0
3) /dev/scsi/host1/bus0/target0/lun0/generic
4) /dev/scsi/host1/bus0/target1/lun0/generic
5) /dev/sg1 [symlink to #3]
6) /dev/sg2 [symlink to #4]

Without devfs mounted, cdrom is  /dev/scd0, and tape is /dev/st0 or
/dev/nst0.

Any thoughts on how I can get devfs to create /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 and
/dev/tapes/tape0 and symbolic links to these devices? I haven't been
able to figure out how to do this from devfs FAQ and kernel
documentation or come across solutions searching with google.

TIA
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Re: dpkg error?

2002-02-03 Thread Greg Madden
On Sunday 03 February 2002 12:55 pm, Jan-Hendrik Palic wrote:
> Hi ...
>
> On Sat, Feb 02, 2002 at 12:14:58PM -0900, Greg C. Madden wrote:
> >I removed gpm with: 'update-rc.d -f gpm remove' then 'dpkg -P gpm'
> >Apparently this did not remove a reference to gpm somewhere in the
> > dpkg system. Dselect will not install new packages as it fails with
> > the following messages: 
snip
>
> why did you not purge gpm with dpkg -P gpm only?
> It will work as well. If you will do so, without update-rc.d -f gpm

Thanks for the info, I was under the (mistaken?) impression that 
'update-rc.d' removed the links from ~/init.d/ to the various run 
levels, so I used it first, (I thought it would leave the gpm script in 
~/init.d)

Then on some subsequent update gpm  was being reinstalled/reconfigured 
so I did the 'dpkg -P' to not have any more references to it on my box. 
 
I have already ran 'dpkg -P' and didn't notice the error messages until 
I tried using dselect, I usually use 'apt-get' 


> Because of the running update-rc.d -f gpm remove before purging gpm,
> there is no /etc/init.d/gpm, so the dpkg is not able to purge gpm at
> all. Look intp /var/lib/dpkg/info/gpm.prerm, there will be a test
> like
>
>   if /etc/init.d/gpm stop; then return 0; fi
>
> comment or delete this line, and  then, dpkg -P will work.

I renamed the file ~.save and dselect worked :)


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Re: [±¤°í] CD¹øÈ£ºÎ 2002 Àü±¹ÆÇ ¾È³»

2002-02-03 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
On Sun, 3 Feb 2002, Alan Shutko wrote:

> It won't stop if you are proactive about it.  I did exactly that for
> around 6 months and kept getting the same .cn spam from the same
> places, and all the ISPs did was indicate to spamcop that they were no
> longer interested in reports.  No action was ever taken.

Start harassing them, and thier upstream, directly.  Make sure your MTA
checked against multiple RBLs (I check against 6 myself).

-- 
Baloo



Re: X configuration problem

2002-02-03 Thread Kapil Khosla
 Hi,
There seems to be a problem in my keyboard map when I try to install X on my 
Toshiba laptop.

I am installing woody and it creates the file 
xf86config -v3 , if i run that it doesnt actually modify my xf86config file as 
the changes i make to the modes etc are not reflected in the file after reboot.
(fbset -s)

So i ran xf86config file and it gives me a warning before 
setting up keyboard settings 
XKB rules file in
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb/rules/xfree86 not found

and there is nothing in this path and also in
/etc/X11/xkb/rules/ 

My default server is XF86_SVGA (/etc/X11/Xserver)
and my sources.list is as follows

deb http://ftp.lug.udel.edu/debian woody main contrib non-free
deb http://ftp.lug.udel.edu/debian-non-US woody non-US/main   


I wonder what is going wrong.If someone thinks he can solve my problem i will 
mail my xf86config files as i dont want to 
clutter the list with huge mails,
Thanks
Kapil
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On Sun, 3 Feb 2002 14:38:50   
 ben wrote:
>On Sunday 03 February 2002 12:16 pm, Seneca Cunningham wrote:
>> Kapil Khosla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > I could not install my base system due to network problems and stopped
>> > installation and did reboot.
>> >
>> > I then installed xserver-vga16, xf86setup.
>> >
>> > When I do startx i get the following error.
>> > dbe : Unknown error loading module
>> > Config error :/etc/X11/xf86config:48
>> >
>> > Subsection "extmod"
>> > Module section keyword expected
>> > giving up
>> >
>> > Xinit : Connection refused (errno 111)
>> > unable to connect xserver
>> >
>> > xinit : no such process (errno 3)
>> >
>> > Server error
>>
>[snip]
>
>check /var/log/XFree86.0.log
>
>
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Re: unsubscribe

2002-02-03 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
On Mon, 4 Feb 2002, csj wrote:

> > unsubscribe
>
> I think you have to place the "unsubscribe" in the subject line (as in
> this email).

That won't work.

> CC'ed to the list so you don't get more copies of this same advice:
>
>  To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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That will.  Same with going to http://lists.debian.org/

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Re: [±¤°í] CD¹øÈ£ºÎ2002 Àü±¹ÆÇ ¾È³»

2002-02-03 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
On Sun, 3 Feb 2002,  Bruce Burhans wrote:

> Might just take you up on that, Baloo, and thanks for the offer.
> Have Bellingham phone number.

There's probably a LUG in that area that you could probably bribe a geek
to come out and help you, as well.  Might be easier than sitting on the
phone.

> Hardware is basic-monitor with Intel Graphics card I can set to
> BASIC VGA in BIOS, standard KB (usb), and external, controller-based
> modem. Will disable sound card and winmodem card in BIOS.Won't be doing
> X at first.

I've had no experiance setting up USB keyboards.

> These are the packages I plan to install initially-
>
> Jove, Mutt, Slrn, w3m, Ncftp, Unzip
> Plus any necessary utilities and dependencies.
> Just Bash will be fine for the present.
> Feel free to criticize the selection, just stay away from X.

OK.  StarOffice and OpenOffice depend on X.

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unsubscribe

2002-02-03 Thread csj
On Sun, 03 Feb 2002 21:23:37 +0100
Thierry PROBST <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> unsubscribe

I think you have to place the "unsubscribe" in the subject line (as in
this email).

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Re: syslinux.cfg

2002-02-03 Thread Wim Speekenbrink

> I'm a brand new, first time Linux user and managed to delete the text
> in syslinux.cfg on the boot-floppy. Now I can't startup Debian anymore
> :-( Would someone be so kind to post the text in his/her syslinux.cfg?

Solved! (I made a new boot-floppy with the installation CD)

Speek



Re: X configuration problem

2002-02-03 Thread ben
On Sunday 03 February 2002 12:16 pm, Seneca Cunningham wrote:
> Kapil Khosla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I could not install my base system due to network problems and stopped
> > installation and did reboot.
> >
> > I then installed xserver-vga16, xf86setup.
> >
> > When I do startx i get the following error.
> > dbe : Unknown error loading module
> > Config error :/etc/X11/xf86config:48
> >
> > Subsection "extmod"
> > Module section keyword expected
> > giving up
> >
> > Xinit : Connection refused (errno 111)
> > unable to connect xserver
> >
> > xinit : no such process (errno 3)
> >
> > Server error
>
[snip]

check /var/log/XFree86.0.log



Re: C Integrated Development Environment

2002-02-03 Thread john
dman wrote:

> On Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 09:09:34AM +1000, john wrote:
> | dman wrote:
> |
> | > On Thu, Jan 31, 2002 at 01:35:38AM -0500, Scott Henson wrote:
> | > | Im setting up a machine for a friend and he needs an IDE for developing
> | > | C and C++.  Anyone have a recomendation on a good one he could use.
> | >
> | > I recommend Debian for the IDE!!
> | >
> | > What do I mean by that?  Well, here is a major difference between MS
> | > Windows and UNIX (others have contributed to this conclusion as well) :
> |
> | 
> |
> | > The moral of the story : learn to use UNIX to its full extent and
> | > you'll need nothing else.  As a bonus, all those utilities are useful
> | > even when you're not coding!
> |
> | Actually, as much as it shames me to admit it, there is one feature
> | in the VC6 M$ bloat thing IDE I really want to see on a Unix
> | platform, and that's the incredibly powerful way it can back
> | reference callers, classes etc. Perhaps it's me, but I just can't
> | get ctags etc to work the same way, and my LISP is too weak to make
> | emacs do it.
>
> Is this what you're looking for?
>
> You have some file open in a buffer and it contains the following
> snippet of C code :
>
> local_var = my_function( an_argument ) ;
>
> You want to see what 'my_function' looks like.
>
> If so, ctags is your man.
>
> Here's how I use it :
>
> Sit in "$my_proj_dir" and run
> ctags --recurse=yes --extra=+q --excmd=pattern src
> (well, the options are really in ~/.ctags)
> Now you have a file named "tags" that contains the tags.
>
> Start up gvim or vim *with $my_proj_dir as $PWD*.  If you want to go
> to a tag
> :tag 
> (with tab-completion)
>
> If you have the above senario, press ^] to jump to the tag matching
> the text under the cursor.  Press ^T to jump back to the previous tag
> on the tag stack (ie after you've press ^] a few times).
>
> The key issues I ran into are
>
> 1)  the tags file contains paths relative to the directory ctags
> was run from
>
> 2)  your editor must be able to find the tags file
>
> You can have multiple tags files, one for each subdirectory or
> whatever, but that seems to me like it would be harder to manage.  Get
> used to the commands so that you can just use tags or :e to open files
> and keep the current directory always at the top of your project
> directory.  (if you google a bit you'll surely come across an article
> I read a while back explaining techniques for managing tags in a
> project)
>
> -D

Hi all,

What VC6 does (and I stress this is the ONLY thing I like about it!!).

I right click on a function call in the source code, and I get a pop-up list of
all objects and methods that call it. This list is in a treeview, so I can see
full dependency information. If the method I chose is overloaded, or the class
in question has multiple inhertance it may add a list to allow me to refine the
search before I get the dependency tree.

Not only that, but I can then open a file up the 'stack hierarchy' at exactly
the line where the method (or it's referrer) is called.

Now, to be even more cool, if I do exactly the same thing in the 'Object
Browser' window I can navigate in the other direction. (ie who this method
calls, who they call etc etc all in a treeview.)

This is incredibly useful when re-factoring legacy code, or when checking that a
new name/method doesnt hide another name we need.

ctags doesnt cut it, it's not good enough for C++ as far as I can tell - it
doesnt understand the C++ language, although it is great for C.

And having had a look at Eclipse I cant be bothered at this point to work out
how to make the damn thing run properly. I suspect it wants an entire JDK
installation under it's own directory!!

If you know a way to get Ctags or some other tagging system to play nice please
let me know. Even better if it integrates with Emacs.

John P Foster
Senoir Research Scientist
Golden Orb Pty Ltd
http://www.golden-orb.com




Re: passwd segfaulting

2002-02-03 Thread Bill Bell
Quoting Eric-Olivier Lamey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> On Sun, Feb 03, 2002 at 02:42, Bill Bell wrote:
> > I have included output from getent and strace.  I looked through 
> > the /etc/passwd file trying to find any errors as you describe, (no
> luck yet).  
> > I am not sure how the /etc/passwd-, /etc/shadow and /etc/shadow- files
> play 
> > into this.  Is it possible that one of these files could contain the
> error that 
> > would cause this segfault?
> 
>   I don't think /etc/passwd- and /etc/shadow- are even opened by
>   'passwd'.
>   The output from 'getent' seems to be correct. The 'strace' output is
>   weird:
> 
> > open("/etc/passwd", O_RDONLY)   = 3
> > fcntl(3, F_GETFD)   = 0
> > fcntl(3, F_SETFD, FD_CLOEXEC)   = 0
> > fstat(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=1251, ...}) = 0
> > old_mmap(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS,
> -1, 0) = 0x40016000
> > _llseek(3, 0, [0], SEEK_CUR)= 0
> > read(3, "root:Xy13e.n9hX7WU:0:0:root:/roo"..., 4096) = 1251
> 
>   Hmmm, it seems that your /etc/passwd contains your encrypted root
>   password. If I 'strace passwd' on my computer (running sid), I never
>   get a line like that, always 'root:x:0:0:...".
>   It doesn't even seem to open '/etc/shadow', I don't understand. What
>   is the content of your /etc/nsswitch.conf, /etc/pam.d/other and
>   /etc/pam.d/passwd files ?
> 
> -- 
> Eric-Olivier Lamey
> 

I started compairing these files you listed above between my Sid machine 
(working) and the broken Woody box. I found that /etc/pam.d/passed was an exact 
copy of /etc/passwd on the Woody box.  The Sid box had a totally 
different /etc/pam.d/passwd file (attached).  On the Woody box I found the 
correct backup file in /etc/pam.d/passwd.orig.  I moved this 
into /etc/pam.d/passwd and all is well!  Perhaps one of the Woody updates broke 
this file at some time in the past.

Thanks for the help.

tigger:/etc/pam.d# cat passwd
#
# The PAM configuration file for the Shadow `passwd' service
#

# The standard Unix authentication modules, used with NIS (man nsswitch) as
# well as normal /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow entries. For the login service,
# this is only used when the password expires and must be changed, so make
# sure this one and the one in /etc/pam.d/login are the same. The "nullok"
# option allows users to change an empty password, else empty passwords are
# treated as locked accounts.
#
# (Add `md5' after the module name to enable MD5 passwords the same way that
# `MD5_CRYPT_ENAB' would do under login.defs).
#
# The "obscure" option replaces the old `OBSCURE_CHECKS_ENAB' option in
# login.defs. Also the "min" and "max" options enforce the length of the
# new password.

password   required   pam_unix.so nullok obscure min=4 max=8

# Alternate strength checking for password. Note that this
# requires the libpam-cracklib package to be installed.
# You will need to comment out the password line above and
# uncomment the next two in order to use this.
# (Replaces the `OBSCURE_CHECKS_ENAB', `CRACKLIB_DICTPATH')
#
# password required   pam_cracklib.so retry=3 minlen=6 difok=3
# password required   pam_unix.so use_authtok nullok md5


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Re: syslinux.cfg

2002-02-03 Thread Jerome Acks Jr
On Sun, Feb 03, 2002 at 07:46:54PM +0100, Wim Speekenbrink wrote:
> I'm a brand new, first time Linux user and managed to delete the text
> in syslinux.cfg on the boot-floppy. Now I can't startup Debian anymore
> :-( Would someone be so kind to post the text in his/her syslinux.cfg?
> 
> Speek

This is from a potato boot floppy. 
Contents of syslinux.cfg:

DISPLAY message.txt
TIMEOUT 40
PROMPT 1
DEFAULT linux
APPEND root=/dev/hdb1 ro

Change "/dev/hdb1" in the APPEND line the to point to your root partition.
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Re: dpkg error?

2002-02-03 Thread Jan-Hendrik Palic
Hi ... 

On Sat, Feb 02, 2002 at 12:14:58PM -0900, Greg C. Madden wrote:
>I removed gpm with: 'update-rc.d -f gpm remove' then 'dpkg -P gpm'
>Apparently this did not remove a reference to gpm somewhere in the dpkg
>system. Dselect will not install new packages as it fails with the
>following messages:

why did you not purge gpm with dpkg -P gpm only?
It will work as well. If you will do so, without update-rc.d -f gpm
remove, you wont get this :

>(Reading database ... 69797 files and directories currently installed.)
>Removing gpm ...
>/var/lib/dpkg/info/gpm.prerm: /etc/init.d/gpm: No such file or directory
>/usr/sbin/gpm: invalid option -- x
>gpm 1.19.6, Thu Oct  4 00:21:21 CEST 2001
>Error in the commandline specification. Try "/usr/sbin/gpm -h".
>/var/lib/dpkg/info/gpm.prerm:  : command not found
>dpkg: error processing gpm (--purge):
> subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 1
>update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/gpm: file does not exist
>dpkg: error while cleaning up:
> subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
>Errors were encountered while processing: gpm

Because of the running update-rc.d -f gpm remove before purging gpm,
there is no /etc/init.d/gpm, so the dpkg is not able to purge gpm at
all. Look intp /var/lib/dpkg/info/gpm.prerm, there will be a test like 

  if /etc/init.d/gpm stop; then return 0; fi

comment or delete this line, and  then, dpkg -P will work.

HTH

Jan

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Re: Source

2002-02-03 Thread Jan-Hendrik Palic
Hi .. 
On Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 06:45:21PM -0900, Greg C. Madden wrote:
>On Fri, 2002-02-01 at 17:43, Bruce Burhans wrote:
>> Is Kernel 2.4.1.7 (or is it 2.4.17 ?) the one that comes with
>> 2.2r5?
>> I searched   from top to bottom and couldn't find this
>> info.  Don't want to buy source for wrong kernel.
>Debian potato doesn't come with a 2.4 series kernel, must be 2.2.x. You
>don't have to buy the source either way, just download the deb package
>from a Debian mirror.

ehm ... does the Kernelimage off 2.4.x run on potato without the update
from Adrian Bunk [1]?

Regards

Jan

[1] http://www.fs.tum.de/~bunk/kernel-24.html

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Re: compiling with the vpn patch

2002-02-03 Thread Jan-Hendrik Palic
Hi .. :)

On Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 08:19:51PM -0500, Michael P. Soulier wrote:
>Hey people. 
>
>I'm trying to patch kernel 2.2.18 and 2.2.20 with the vpn patch.
>Unfortunately, it presents no new option for IPsec MASQ under a make
>menuconfig. So, putting the following in manually
>
>CONFIG_IP_MASQUERADE_IPSEC=y
>
>I get compile errors

>Don't just tell me to use 2.4. I know that's an option already, but
>currently I'd like to get this working with 2.2.

ehm .. did you have seen this?

http://www.fs.tum.de/~bunk/kernel-24.html

Greetings

Jan

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Re: passwd segfaulting

2002-02-03 Thread Bill Bell
Quoting Larry Holish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> On Sun, Feb 03, 2002 at 06:53:17AM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Hello,
> > 
> > I am running up to date woody on a small firewall box.  I have had
> this problem 
> > for some time where passwd ALWAYS segfaults when it is called.  I have
> searched 
> > archives, looked at the /etc/passwd to see if it may be corrupt.  I
> have 
> > password shadowing turned on and cannot find any problems in the
> shadow files.
> > 
> > Please help me.  I need some ideas on were to look next for this
> problem.
> 
> Have you tried the /usr/sbin/pwck command?  This command verifies the
> integrity of the /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow files.  See the manpage
> for
> more info.
> 
> -- 
> Larry Holish
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> 
> -- 
Here is the output from pwck.  It looks like I just have a few missing home 
directories for these accounts.


tigger:/etc# pwck
user news: directory /var/spool/news does not exist
user uucp: directory /var/spool/uucp does not exist
user majordom: directory /usr/lib/majordomo does not exist
user postgres: directory /var/lib/postgres does not exist
user msql: directory /var/lib/msql does not exist
user list: directory /var/list does not exist
user gnats: directory /var/lib/gnats/gnats-db does not exist
user cyrus: directory /var/spool/cyrus does not exist
pwck: no changes


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Re: passwd segfaulting

2002-02-03 Thread Eric-Olivier Lamey
On Sun, Feb 03, 2002 at 02:42, Bill Bell wrote:
> I have included output from getent and strace.  I looked through 
> the /etc/passwd file trying to find any errors as you describe, (no luck 
> yet).  
> I am not sure how the /etc/passwd-, /etc/shadow and /etc/shadow- files play 
> into this.  Is it possible that one of these files could contain the error 
> that 
> would cause this segfault?

  I don't think /etc/passwd- and /etc/shadow- are even opened by
  'passwd'.
  The output from 'getent' seems to be correct. The 'strace' output is
  weird:

> open("/etc/passwd", O_RDONLY)   = 3
> fcntl(3, F_GETFD)   = 0
> fcntl(3, F_SETFD, FD_CLOEXEC)   = 0
> fstat(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=1251, ...}) = 0
> old_mmap(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) 
> = 0x40016000
> _llseek(3, 0, [0], SEEK_CUR)= 0
> read(3, "root:Xy13e.n9hX7WU:0:0:root:/roo"..., 4096) = 1251

  Hmmm, it seems that your /etc/passwd contains your encrypted root
  password. If I 'strace passwd' on my computer (running sid), I never
  get a line like that, always 'root:x:0:0:...".
  It doesn't even seem to open '/etc/shadow', I don't understand. What
  is the content of your /etc/nsswitch.conf, /etc/pam.d/other and
  /etc/pam.d/passwd files ?

-- 
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XFree86 hangs / How to use Xfree 4.2.0

2002-02-03 Thread Martin Emrich
Hi !

My X-Server hangs sometimes. I can still move the mouse, but the cursor 
stays in its last state. It doesn't react on any keypresses, except the
allmighty Alt-SysRq-S U B, which is the only way to reboot without risking
a looong fsck. I'm using Debian sid, currently with X 4.1.0. I have a Sony
Vaio PCG-F403 with a Neomagic 256AV video card.

I thought, maybe this very annoying error might go away if I upgrade to X 4.2.0.
So, Is it safe to use the newest version from www.xfree86.org or would I confuse
or even break apt-get,dselect,dpkg & co. ?

Or has anybody had this problem, too, and found a cure ?

Thx for any help...

Martin

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Re: passwd segfaulting

2002-02-03 Thread Larry Holish
On Sun, Feb 03, 2002 at 06:53:17AM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I am running up to date woody on a small firewall box.  I have had this 
> problem 
> for some time where passwd ALWAYS segfaults when it is called.  I have 
> searched 
> archives, looked at the /etc/passwd to see if it may be corrupt.  I have 
> password shadowing turned on and cannot find any problems in the shadow files.
> 
> Please help me.  I need some ideas on were to look next for this problem.

Have you tried the /usr/sbin/pwck command?  This command verifies the
integrity of the /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow files.  See the manpage for
more info.

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<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



Re: The New World Order is Here !

2002-02-03 Thread Glyn Millington
Stig Brautaset <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> * Oleksandr Moskalenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spake thus:
>> 
>> Stig,
>> 
>> Would you mind sharing your set of procmail filters?
>
> I don't mind at all.

Brilliant - many thanks!!



Glyn
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kernel broadcasting needed when upgrading to CUPS 1.1.12-5 ??

2002-02-03 Thread Ron Johnson
Hi,

When upgrading my woody system from CUPS 1.1.12-4 to 1.1.12-5, the
library libslp1 1.0.6-3 was installed.

libslp1 (OpenSLP) requires broadcasting, and for this route to
be added:
route add -net 224.0.0.0 netmask 240.0.0.0 dev 

Why do I need an "IETF standard protocol (RFC 2608) that is used to
discover/advertise services on the network"?  Is this so that other
machines can see that I have an available printer?  Something like
with Windows Network Neighborhood?

Printing still works, so not having that rould must not be affecting
me too much...

Thanks
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Re: passwd segfaulting

2002-02-03 Thread Bill Bell
Quoting Eric-Olivier Lamey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> On Sun, Feb 03, 2002 at 06:53, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Hello,
> 
>   Hi,
> 
> > I am running up to date woody on a small firewall box.  I have had
> this problem 
> > for some time where passwd ALWAYS segfaults when it is called.  I have
> searched 
> > archives, looked at the /etc/passwd to see if it may be corrupt.  I
> have 
> > password shadowing turned on and cannot find any problems in the
> shadow files.
> > 
> > Please help me.  I need some ideas on were to look next for this
> problem.
> 
>   I recently had the same problem after editing /etc/passwd manually.
> It
>   turns out I had forgotten a ":" after an empty gecos field. Check
>   carefully if all the lines are correct.
>   What does 'getent passwd' says ? What does 'strace passwd' says ?
> 
> -- 
> Eric-Olivier Lamey
> 
> 
> -- 

I have included output from getent and strace.  I looked through 
the /etc/passwd file trying to find any errors as you describe, (no luck yet).  
I am not sure how the /etc/passwd-, /etc/shadow and /etc/shadow- files play 
into this.  Is it possible that one of these files could contain the error that 
would cause this segfault?

Thanks for the help.

--
Bill
C.R.E.A.M.  Dark Angel

--tigger:/etc# getent passwd
root:x:0:0:root:/root:/bin/bash
daemon:x:1:1:daemon:/usr/sbin:/bin/sh
bin:x:2:2:bin:/bin:/bin/sh
sys:x:3:3:sys:/dev:/bin/sh
sync:x:4:100:sync:/bin:/bin/sync
games:x:5:100:games:/usr/games:/bin/sh
man:x:6:100:man:/var/cache/man:/bin/sh
lp:x:7:7:lp:/var/spool/lpd:/bin/sh
mail:x:8:8:mail:/var/mail:/bin/sh
news:x:9:9:news:/var/spool/news:/bin/sh
uucp:x:10:10:uucp:/var/spool/uucp:/bin/sh
proxy:x:13:13:proxy:/bin:/bin/sh
majordom:x:30:31:Majordomo:/usr/lib/majordomo:/bin/sh
postgres:x:31:32:postgres:/var/lib/postgres:/bin/sh
www-data:x:33:33:www-data:/var/www:/bin/sh
backup:x:34:34:backup:/var/backups:/bin/sh
msql:x:36:36:Mini SQL Database Manager:/var/lib/msql:/bin/sh
operator:x:37:37:Operator:/var:/bin/sh
list:x:38:38:SmartList:/var/list:/bin/sh
irc:x:39:39:ircd:/var:/bin/sh
gnats:x:41:41:Gnats Bug-Reporting System (admin):/var/lib/gnats/gnats-db:/bin/sh
identd:x:100:65534::/var/run/identd:/bin/false
cyrus:x:101:8:Cyrus User,,,:/var/spool/cyrus:/bin/false
snort:x:102:101:Snort IDS:/var/log/snort:/bin/false
mysql:x:103:102:MySQL Server:/var/lib/mysql:/bin/false
reboot:x:1000:1000:dog,,,:/home/reboot:/bin/bash
grlind:x:1001:1001:Gregg,,,:/home/grlind:/bin/bash
nobody:x:65534:65534:nobody:/home:/bin/sh
tigger:/etc#
tigger:~# strace passwd
execve("/usr/bin/passwd", ["passwd"], [/* 14 vars */]) = 0
uname({sys="Linux", node="tigger", ...}) = 0
brk(0)  = 0x804f120
open("/etc/ld.so.preload", O_RDONLY)= -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
open("/etc/ld.so.cache", O_RDONLY)  = 3
fstat64(3, 0xbfffef24)  = -1 ENOSYS (Function not implemented)
fstat(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=16024, ...}) = 0
old_mmap(NULL, 16024, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0x40016000
close(3)= 0
open("/lib/libcrypt.so.1", O_RDONLY)= 3
read(3, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0\200\20"..., 1024) = 
1024
fstat(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=20900, ...}) = 0
old_mmap(NULL, 183740, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0x4001a000
mprotect(0x4001f000, 163260, PROT_NONE) = 0
old_mmap(0x4001f000, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED, 3, 
0x4000) = 0x4001f000
old_mmap(0x4002, 159164, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, 
MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x4002
close(3)= 0
open("/lib/libpam.so.0", O_RDONLY)  = 3
read(3, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0\340\24"..., 1024) = 
1024
fstat(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=29420, ...}) = 0
old_mmap(NULL, 32428, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0x40047000
mprotect(0x4004e000, 3756, PROT_NONE)   = 0
old_mmap(0x4004e000, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED, 3, 
0x6000) = 0x4004e000
close(3)= 0
open("/lib/libpam_misc.so.0", O_RDONLY) = 3
read(3, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0\300\f\0"..., 1024) = 
1024
fstat(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=7500, ...}) = 0
old_mmap(NULL, 10508, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0x4004f000
mprotect(0x40051000, 2316, PROT_NONE)   = 0
old_mmap(0x40051000, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED, 3, 
0x1000) = 0x40051000
close(3)= 0
open("/lib/libdl.so.2", O_RDONLY)   = 3
read(3, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0\244\34"..., 1024) = 
1024
fstat(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=9436, ...}) = 0
old_mmap(NULL, 12364, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0x40052000
mprotect(0x40054000, 4172, PROT_NONE)   = 0
old_mmap(0x40054000, 8192, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED, 3, 
0x1000) = 0x40054000
close(3)= 0
open("/lib/libc.so.6", O_RDONLY)= 3
read(3, "\177E

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Re: Woody kernel rebuild screws the pooch.

2002-02-03 Thread Dimitri Maziuk
* Phillip Remaker ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) spake thusly:
> 
> I seem to be an idiot.
> 
> I wanted to add sound to by Woody install, and figured I needed to build me
> a kernel (to add isapnp which seems not to be there by default).
> The kernel (2.2.20) that installed with the woody installer used
> the RTL8139 loadable module, and worked great.
> 
> I followed the "make-kpkg" instructions, determined to build a kernel the
> "Debian Way."  When I went to install it, I did not back up the modules and
> ignored warnings about the modules, and SURPRISE!  The rtl8139 modules fail
> to load due to unresolved symbols.  MY incorrect assumption was that since I
> was rebuilding mostly the same kernel, I shouldn't have an issue to reuse
> the old modules.  Well, that was wrong.

This is usually due to different "set version information on 
all modules" (or whatever CONFIG_MODEVERSIONS is called) 
setting in old/new kernel. Fixed by "mv /lib/modules/$VERSION 
/lib/modules/$VERSION.old" before installing new kernel. Those 
warnings are there for a reason, and now you know what the 
reason is.

> Worse, I can't get make-kpkg modules_install to work.  I'm not sure exactly
> which source I need in /usr/src/modules, and the make process seems to error
> out every time.

You don't need that unless you have extra stuff (ie. not part 
of the kernel tree, like alsa or nvidia) in /usr/src/modules.

> So the way I see it I have several ways to unhose myself, but can't find
> good docs on the best way to proceed:
> 
> 1) Get the right source somewhere and compile and install the kernel right.
>
> 2) Punt, and revert to the stock kernel [1]

Yes. I don't think I ever used Debian kernel source package,
stock kernel builds and installs just fine with make-kpkg
(IIRC it's been that way ever since make-kpkg was written).

> I have booted the "rescue" disk but it also fails to work (same unresolved
> symbols problem).  I guess I need to better understand how the boot process
> and module linking works 8-(

Simple: modules are installed in /lib/modules/$VERSION. If rescue
disk has the same kernel version, you'll have the same unresolved
symbols problem with it.

> I'm feeling dumb.  I also assumed (hoped?) that dpkg would have backed up
> the old kernel for me as part of the process.  

It did. It's /vmlinuz.old. That doesn't help you any if it's the
same kernel version (see above).

...I wish the kernel build
> process FAQ had a section on "you've screwed yourself!  *NOW* what do you
> do?"
> 
> I hate to wipe and reinstall but I'm on the brink of that 8-(

Ok, build a 2.2.19 or something ($VERSION that you don't 
have in /lib/modules). That should give you a bootable 
system. Then remove 2.2.20, inc. modules, rebuild 2.2.20 
and reinstall it.

> I guess Debian isn't for wimps.

Life isn't for wimps. Deal with it.

> [1] Is it easy to add an isa PNP sound card to the kernel without a
> recompile?  ESS 1869, for the curious.  I was thinking perhaps I should
> revert to the stock kernel and try to install ALSA.  Whee.

Alsa is not for wimps. ESS cards work fine with OSS/Lite 
(stock kernel) drivers, but you'll have to learn to use
isapnp (ISA PnP sucks by design, there's no way around that).

Dima
-- 
I have not been able to think of any way of describing Perl to [person]
"Hello, blind man?  This is color."  -- DPM



Re: X configuration problem

2002-02-03 Thread Seneca Cunningham
Kapil Khosla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I could not install my base system due to network problems and stopped
> installation and did reboot.
>
> I then installed xserver-vga16, xf86setup.
>
> When I do startx i get the following error.
> dbe : Unknown error loading module
> Config error :/etc/X11/xf86config:48
>
> Subsection "extmod"
> Module section keyword expected
> giving up
>
> Xinit : Connection refused (errno 111)
> unable to connect xserver
>
> xinit : no such process (errno 3)
>
> Server error

Is your Subsection "extmod" inside Section "Module"? What does your
XF86Config say?

> I have a old Toshiba laptop 4000CDT, and the video card is of Chips
> technologies 6.
>
> I was wondering what would be the right steps to install a working X from
> scratch.

When I first installed X, I just downloaded the packages, installed them,
and spent a while trying to find some working monitor settings for an LCD.

> Or maybe someone could point me to where the error is in this case,

In this case it could just be where many errors with X are, in XF86Config.

Hope this helps,

Seneca
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: [±¤°í] CD¹øÈ£ºÎ 2002 Àü±¹ÆÇ ¾È³»

2002-02-03 Thread Alan Shutko
Paul 'Baloo' Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> You should automagically dump them into a seperate folder and run them
> through spamcop.net.  It won't slw/stop unless you're proactive about
> it.

It won't stop if you are proactive about it.  I did exactly that for
around 6 months and kept getting the same .cn spam from the same
places, and all the ISPs did was indicate to spamcop that they were no
longer interested in reports.  No action was ever taken.

-- 
Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - In a variety of flavors!
Today is the tomorrow you worried about yesterday.



Re: ssh2 / X problems

2002-02-03 Thread shock
* Stephen E. Hargrove ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) spake thusly:
>  Cameron Kerr ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) spake thusly:
> > On Sat, 2 Feb 2002, shock wrote:
> > 
> > Does it happen with any other user account?
> 
> it happens with all accounts.

okay, i'm not really sure what's going on, but rebooting my client
machine corrected the problem.

thanks!
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gdk fontset warning problem

2002-02-03 Thread Adam Kessel
Hi All:

All of my gdk applications give the error:

Gdk-WARNING **: Missing charsets in FontSet creation
Gdk-WARNING **: ISO8859-1

on startup (e.g., gvim, gqview, etc..).

This problem seems to be fairly common, based on a number of google.com
searches, particularly for people using other character sets.  I am just
using the standard English language characters, though.  I have been unable
to find any bug report, list posting, FAQ, or HOWTO that answers this
frequently posted problem.

Can anyone suggest how I might go about trouble-shooting this?

I am using sid, all recently upgraded, although the problem has been around
for me for a while.

Thank you.
---
Adam Kessel ([EMAIL PROTECTED])



X configuration problem

2002-02-03 Thread Kapil Khosla
Hi,
I could not install my base system due to network problems and stopped 
installation and did reboot.

I then installed xserver-vga16, xf86setup.

When I do startx i get the following error.
dbe : Unknown error loading module
Config error :/etc/X11/xf86config:48

Subsection "extmod"
Module section keyword expected 
giving up

Xinit : Connection refused (errno 111)
unable to connect xserver

xinit : no such process (errno 3)

Server error

I have a old Toshiba laptop 4000CDT, and the video card is of Chips 
technologies 6.


I was wondering what would be the right steps to install a working X from 
scratch.
Or maybe someone could point me to where the error is in this case,
Thanks
Khosla





Re: XFree86 config for i810E 1280x960

2002-02-03 Thread Dimitri Maziuk
* Craig Dickson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) spake thusly:
> begin  Dimitri Maziuk  quotation:
> 
> > * Craig Dickson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) spake thusly:
> > ...
> > > So, now the question: why does XFree86 4.1 (Sid) insist on using the
> > > vaguely flickery 60Hz mode rather than the nice 85Hz mode? 
> > 
> > Because it's just a dumb computer program?
> 
> I guess so! I still think it's connected with that line in the log
> about the clock range having an upper limit of 136 MHz. But I can't
> figure out where it gets that idea.
> 
> > > Now, as best I can understand all this, it seems that both my i810E and
> > > my Philips monitor should support the 85 MHz 1280x960 mode, so the next
> > > question is how to force XFree86 to use it, and whether I risk damaging
> > > any of my hardware in doing so? 
> > 
> > man XF86Config-4. You can specify ModeLine's, just like in X v.3.
> > Xvidtune is your friend, too. As for damaging the hardware -- unlikely: 
> > modern hardware is smart enough to shut itself off (YMMV, of course).
> 
> Google gave me a number of possible modes. I ended up settling (for now)
> for a 75 Hz 1280x960 that works well. If I ever get really ambitious, I
> can try for an 80-90 Hz mode, but 75 looks pretty solid.

75Hz is not too bad. If you get really adventurous, read 
XF86-Video-Timings-HOWTO at your nearest linuxdoc mirror.

Dima
-- 
I have not been able to think of any way of describing Perl to [person]
"Hello, blind man?  This is color."  -- DPM



Mailman admin saying "Error decoding authorization cookie"

2002-02-03 Thread Alan Chandler
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Hash: SHA1

I suddenly seem to have a problem with 
mailman

After successfully logging in to admin one of my lists (all lists show this 
problem) - if I select another subsection I get thrown back to the login 
screen with the text

Error decoding authorization cookie

shown in red at the top of the screen.  

I haven't made any changes in this area recently other than dselect update 
(debian woody).

I am using konqueror and cookies are enabled.

Any ideas what might be wrong - or how to go about debugging the problem.  
I'm stumped.
- -- 

  Alan - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.chandlerfamily.org.uk
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Re: passwd segfaulting

2002-02-03 Thread Eric-Olivier Lamey
On Sun, Feb 03, 2002 at 06:53, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hello,

  Hi,

> I am running up to date woody on a small firewall box.  I have had this 
> problem 
> for some time where passwd ALWAYS segfaults when it is called.  I have 
> searched 
> archives, looked at the /etc/passwd to see if it may be corrupt.  I have 
> password shadowing turned on and cannot find any problems in the shadow files.
> 
> Please help me.  I need some ideas on were to look next for this problem.

  I recently had the same problem after editing /etc/passwd manually. It
  turns out I had forgotten a ":" after an empty gecos field. Check
  carefully if all the lines are correct.
  What does 'getent passwd' says ? What does 'strace passwd' says ?

-- 
Eric-Olivier Lamey



syslinux.cfg

2002-02-03 Thread Wim Speekenbrink
I'm a brand new, first time Linux user and managed to delete the text
in syslinux.cfg on the boot-floppy. Now I can't startup Debian anymore
:-( Would someone be so kind to post the text in his/her syslinux.cfg?

Speek



Re: ssh2 / X problems

2002-02-03 Thread shock
 Cameron Kerr ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) spake thusly:
> On Sat, 2 Feb 2002, shock wrote:
> 
> Does it happen with any other user account?

it happens with all accounts.

> Try running the server in debug mode. This will likely tell you whats
> happening.

this results in output on both the client and server side.  Here's the
client side output:


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ssh2 server2
stephen's password:
Authentication successful.
debug: Ssh2ChannelSession/sshchsession.c:738/ssh_channel_session_child:
ssh_channel_session_child: now running as user 'stephen'
debug: Environment:
debug:   HOME=/home/stephen
debug:   USER=stephen
debug:   LOGNAME=stephen
debug:   PATH=/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/bin
debug:   MAIL=/var/spool/mail/stephen
debug:   SHELL=/bin/bash
debug:   SSH2_CLIENT=192.168.1.10 63545 192.168.1.99 22
debug:   TERM=xterm
debug:   DISPLAY=server2.exitwound.org:10.0
debug:   LANG=C
debug: Running /usr/X11R6/bin/xauth add server2.exitwound.org:10.0
MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 1f55726ddb9304a5d35c0401fcca6961
debug: Running /usr/X11R6/bin/xauth add 192.168.1.99:10.0
MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 1f55726ddb9304a5d35c0401fcca6961
Last login: Sun Feb 03 2002 12:45:27 -0600
Linux server2.exitwound.org 2.4.17-pre8 #7 SMP Fri Dec 14 11:49:44 CST
2001 i686 unknown
 
Most of the programs included with the Debian GNU/Linux system are
freely redistributable; the exact distribution terms for each program
are described in the individual files in /usr/share/doc/*/copyright
  
Debian GNU/Linux comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY, to the extent
permitted by applicable law.
No mail.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$


and here's the server-side output


debug: SshAppCommon/sshappcommon.c:154/ssh_app_get_global_regex_context:
Allocating global SshRegex context.
sshd2: SSH Secure Shell 3.0.1 (non-commercial version) on
i686-pc-linux-gnu
debug: SshHostKeyIO/sshhostkeyio.c:220/ssh_host_key_read_keys: Host key
algorithms: ssh-dss
debug: Becoming server.
debug: Creating listener
debug: Listener created
debug: no udp listener created.
sshd2[21630]: Listener created on port 22.
sshd2[21630]: Daemon is running.
debug: Running event loop
sshd2[21630]: connection from "192.168.1.10"
debug: Sshd2/sshd2.c:1062/new_connection_callback:
new_connection_callback
debug: Sshd2/sshd2.c:1214/new_connection_callback: Wrapping stream with
ssh_server_wrap...
debug: ssh_server_wrap: creating transport protocol
debug:
SshAuthMethodServer/sshauthmethods.c:118/ssh_server_authentication_initialize:
Added "publickey" to usable methods.
debug:
SshAuthMethodServer/sshauthmethods.c:118/ssh_server_authentication_initialize:
Added "password" to usable methods.
debug:
SshAuthMethodServer/sshauthmethods.c:133/ssh_server_authentication_initialize:
Added "hostbased" to usable methods.
debug: ssh_server_wrap: creating userauth protocol
debug: Ssh2Common/sshcommon.c:496/ssh_common_wrap: local ip =
192.168.1.99, local port = 22
debug: Ssh2Common/sshcommon.c:498/ssh_common_wrap: remote ip =
192.168.1.10, remote port = 63545
debug: SshConnection/sshconn.c:1889/ssh_conn_wrap: Wrapping...
debug: Sshd2/sshd2.c:1232/new_connection_callback: done.
debug: new_connection_callback returning
debug: Remote version: SSH-1.99-3.0.1 SSH Secure Shell (non-commercial)
debug: Major: 3 Minor: 0 Revision: 1
debug: Ssh2Transport/trcommon.c:1717/ssh_tr_negotiate: lang s to c: `',
lang c to s: `'
debug: Ssh2Transport/trcommon.c:1783/ssh_tr_negotiate: c_to_s: cipher
aes128-cbc, mac hmac-sha1, compression none
debug: Ssh2Transport/trcommon.c:1786/ssh_tr_negotiate: s_to_c: cipher
aes128-cbc, mac hmac-sha1, compression none
debug: Sshd2/sshd2.c:593/auth_policy_proc: user 'stephen' service
'ssh-connection' client_ip '192.168.1.10' client_port '63545' completed
''
debug: Sshd2/sshd2.c:901/auth_policy_proc: output: publickey,password
debug:
SshUnixUser/sshunixuser.c:1250/ssh_user_validate_secure_rpc_password:
not yet implemented
debug:
SshUnixUser/sshunixuser.c:1238/ssh_user_validate_kerberos_password:
kerberos support not compiled in
sshd2[21630]: User stephen's local password accepted.
sshd2[21630]: Password authentication for user stephen accepted.
debug: Sshd2/sshd2.c:593/auth_policy_proc: user 'stephen' service
'ssh-connection' client_ip '192.168.1.10' client_port '63545' completed
'password'
debug: Ssh2AuthServer/sshauths.c:335/success_completion_proc:
no_more_needed=TRUE
debug: Ssh2Common/sshcommon.c:291/ssh_common_special: Received
SSH_CROSS_STARTUP packet from connection protocol.
debug: Ssh2Common/sshcommon.c:341/ssh_common_special: Received
SSH_CROSS_ALGORITHMS packet from connection protocol.
debug: Ssh2Common/sshcommon.c:259/ssh_common_special: Received
SSH_CROSS_AUTHENTICATED packet from connection protocol.
sshd2[21630]: User stephen, coming from pappy.exitwound.org,
authenticated.
debug: Ssh2Common/sshcommon.c:718/ssh_common_new_channel: num_channels
now 1
debug: Ssh2ChannelSession/sshchs

Using Amanda client software, via Debian package.

2002-02-03 Thread stan
After years of recomending to people that they build amanda from  source, 
instead of 
trying to us the Debian packages, I find myslef trying to do just that.

So, how is this suposed to work? I'm failing like this:


amandad: debug 1 pid 16259 ruid 34 euid 34 start time Sun Feb  3 13:35:48 2002
amandad: version 2.4.2p2
amandad: build: VERSION="Amanda-2.4.2p2"
amandad:BUILT_DATE="Wed Nov 14 22:33:37 MST 2001"
amandad:BUILT_MACH="Linux rover 2.4.9 #1 Wed Sep 5 01:09:52 MDT 2001 
i686 unknown"
amandad:CC="gcc"
amandad: paths: bindir="/usr/sbin" sbindir="/usr/sbin"
amandad:libexecdir="/usr/lib/amanda" mandir="/usr/share/man"
amandad:AMANDA_TMPDIR="/tmp/amanda" AMANDA_DBGDIR="/tmp/amanda"
amandad:CONFIG_DIR="/etc/amanda" DEV_PREFIX="/dev/"
amandad:RDEV_PREFIX="/dev/" DUMP="/sbin/dump"
amandad:RESTORE="/sbin/restore" SAMBA_CLIENT="/usr/bin/smbclient"
amandad:GNUTAR="/bin/tar" COMPRESS_PATH="/bin/gzip"
amandad:UNCOMPRESS_PATH="/bin/gzip" MAILER="/usr/bin/Mail"
amandad:listed_incr_dir="/var/lib/amanda/gnutar-lists"
amandad: defs:  DEFAULT_SERVER="localhost" DEFAULT_CONFIG="DailySet1"
amandad:DEFAULT_TAPE_SERVER="localhost"
amandad:DEFAULT_TAPE_DEVICE="/dev/null" HAVE_MMAP HAVE_SYSVSHM
amandad:LOCKING=POSIX_FCNTL SETPGRP_VOID DEBUG_CODE
amandad:AMANDA_DEBUG_DAYS=4 BSD_SECURITY USE_AMANDAHOSTS
amandad:CLIENT_LOGIN="backup" FORCE_USERID HAVE_GZIP
amandad:COMPRESS_SUFFIX=".gz" COMPRESS_FAST_OPT="--fast"
amandad:COMPRESS_BEST_OPT="--best" UNCOMPRESS_OPT="-dc"
got packet:

Amanda 2.4 REQ HANDLE 008-40020518 SEQ 1012761342
SECURITY USER amanda
SERVICE selfcheck
OPTIONS ;
DUMP rd2d 0 OPTIONS |;bsd-auth;srvcomp-best;index;
DUMP rd2a 0 OPTIONS |;bsd-auth;srvcomp-best;index;
DUMP rd1a 0 OPTIONS |;bsd-auth;srvcomp-best;index;
DUMP rd0d 0 OPTIONS |;bsd-auth;srvcomp-best;index;
DUMP rd0a 0 OPTIONS |;bsd-auth;srvcomp-best;index;


sending ack:

Amanda 2.4 ACK HANDLE 008-40020518 SEQ 1012761342


bsd security: remote host kodiak.fas.com user amanda local user backup
check failed: [access as backup not allowed from [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
amandahostsauth failed
amandad: sending REP packet:

Amanda 2.4 REP HANDLE 008-40020518 SEQ 1012761342
ERROR [access as backup not allowed from [EMAIL PROTECTED] amandahostsauth 
failed


amandad: got packet:

Amanda 2.4 ACK HANDLE 008-40020518 SEQ 1012761342


amandad: pid 16259 finish time Sun Feb  3 13:35:48 2002

So I looked, and see that user backup, whch is aparantly what teh Amanda 
package is built with
as it's user has a home of /var/backups. Looking there .amandahosts is a link to
/etc/amandahosts, whch is owned by user backup. So I put the following in there:


localhost backup
+stan
+root
kodiak
kodiak.fas.com
kodiak root
kodiak.fas.com root
kodiak backup
kodiak.fas.com backup

kodiak is the tapehost.

But it still fails in exactly the same way. Before I dlete the packge, and 
build it form
source, I thought I would ask how it's supposed to work.

-- 
"They that would give up essential liberty for temporary safety deserve
neither liberty nor safety."
-- Benjamin Franklin



sysvinit; cleaning

2002-02-03 Thread Jim McCloskey

I had a problem at boot time yesterday that I had never seen
before. Since the California energy-`crisis' I typically shut down at
the end of the day's work.

When I re-booted yesterday morning, everything went as normal until
bootmisc.sh began to clean out the /tmp directory. At that point, the
system hung and refused to respond to any keyboard input. I left it in
that state for more than 10 minutes, then, not knowing what else to
do, I powered down and rebooted.  The re-boot was completely normal
except that fsck was called to check the partitions that had been
mounted and then not cleanly unmounted when I powered down.

/tmp is not on its own partition, so I don't think that the problem had
to do with mounting. 

I can think of no reason why there would have been anything strange or
unusual in /tmp from the previous day's activities.

I've gone through kern.log, syslog and so on but not found any
relevant messages. I've also looked in the bug-list for sysvinit and
not seen anything very similar there.

Has anyone seen this kind of thing before? Thanks for any help.

Jim

The system: 
---
up-to-date Debian `testing'; kernel 2.4.17 (self-compiled); 
---
Mainboard:  Tyan Trinity K7 S2380 
CPU:AMD Athlon K7 750MHz 
Memory: Delta Omega Siemens   PC-133 128MB
SCSI HBA:   Tekram DC390U2W PCI
Boot HD:Seagate 9.1GB LVD
---
Disk partitions:
/dev/sda1   1.5GB (/ root)
/dev/sda2   256MB (swap)
/dev/sda3   7GB   (/home)
---



Re: OT: how to extract meta data of rpm, need to understand how alien

2002-02-03 Thread Mathias De Belder
> convert the package since I need to hack the deb package generated but
> it would be nice to actually look at the rpm in more detail.

rpm -qpi packagename.rpm. You may drop the -i option. You can
always 'visit' the RPM archive in case using midnight commander or a
similar tool...




Re: What is a good, small, web browser?

2002-02-03 Thread Seneca Cunningham
Karsten M. Self  wrote:
> on Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 11:29 AM +0100, Karsten Heymann
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > * Seneca Cunningham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [020201 11:05]:
> > > David Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > I have a very good reason for not wanting to install GNOME or another
> > > desktop manager. I tried GNOME about a month ago, and it's performance
> > > was similar to that of my 286 when windows 3.0 was installed on it.
> > > You really could doze off while it was loading.
> >
> > Well, galeon depends on the gnome libs installed, but it does not depend
> > on gnome running. If your disk space is not a problem, you could try it
> > out. Apart from that, w3m and links are very cool too (and don't forget
> > netcat :-))
>
> I'll also strongly plug Galeon.  If you're not violently allergic to
> GNOME libs (and yes, it does suck in a whole mess of them, along with
> all of Mozilla), it's an ass-kicking browser.
>
> It's not for older/slower boxen though.  I'd recommend *NO LESS* than a
> PII-233, and think you'll be happier with a PIII-600+ CPU.  For memory,
> 128 MiB minimum, 256 strongly recommended.  Particularly under intensive
> use (I can easily get over 100 tabs/windows open) it sucks both CPU and
> memory.  But it does good things with both.

I think I'll stay away from galeon with my current system, it is a P-100
with 16M ram.

> Otherwise, Browse-X is the best full-featured, lightweight, SSL-enabled
> browser I've run across.

I decided to try Browse-X, and I have been taking a look at how it handles
my local files. It doesn't take too long to load itself, or some local
documents, but it duplicates the address in the links. If the address is
file:///usr/share/doc/foo.html in the file, it is interpreted as
file:///usr/share/doc/foo.html/usr/share/doc/foo.html. Is there some
configuration that I haven't done, and couldn't find out about?

Thanks for any help,

Seneca
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: What is a good, small, web browser?

2002-02-03 Thread Oleksandr Moskalenko
* Rob Mahurin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> 
> On Sat, Feb 02, 2002 at 06:20:18PM -0800, Eric G. Miller wrote:
> > On Sat, 2 Feb 2002 17:58:06 -0800, "Karsten M. Self"  
> > wrote:
> > 
> > [snip]
> > > It's not for older/slower boxen though.  I'd recommend *NO LESS* than a
> > > PII-233, and think you'll be happier with a PIII-600+ CPU.  For memory,
> > > 128 MiB minimum, 256 strongly recommended.  Particularly under intensive
> > > use (I can easily get over 100 tabs/windows open) it sucks both CPU and
> > > memory.  But it does good things with both.
> > 
> > Galeon does fine on this old 266 with 64MB of RAM.  It certainly does
> > better than Mozilla proper or Konqueror (KDE > 1.x is just too memory
> > hungry).  So, while 128 is probably nicer, I'd hesitate to say it was
> > the minimum.
> 
> I'm also running Galeon quite happily on a P-200, albeit with 128 MB
> of RAM.  The menus are a bit sluggish to display, but the browser as a
> whole is much better/faster/cheaper than anything else I've used.
> 
> Rob
> 

 I'll second it. I'm running Galeon on a double PPro 200 with
low-latency and pre-emptive kernel patches compiled in and it's a snap.


Alex.

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Re: Spamassassin and allowing mail through

2002-02-03 Thread dman
On Sat, Feb 02, 2002 at 09:46:05AM +, Phillip Deackes wrote:
| I have SpamAssassin working perfectly with Exim (thanks to dman!) but I
| cannot workout how to specifically allow through an email which falls foul
| of SA. I subscribe to a newsletter which SA marks as SPAM. Here are the
| headers:

There are 3 solutions that I can think of right now :

1)  whitelist

2)  create a test to match those messages and give it a negative score

3)  identify those messages in your filter and don't stick them in the
spam bucket (essentially the same as #2 except in a different
place)

-D

-- 

For society, it's probably a good thing that engineers value function
over appearance.  For example, you wouldn't want engineers to build
nuclear power plants that only _look_ like they would keep all the
radiation inside.
(Scott Adams - The Dilbert principle)



OT: how to extract meta data of rpm, need to understand how alien

2002-02-03 Thread Walter Tautz
convert the package since I need to hack the deb package generated
but it would be nice to actually look at the rpm in more detail.
Anyone know how to do this? Alas rpms don't use the simple ar
format.


-walter



Re: XFree86 config for i810E 1280x960

2002-02-03 Thread Craig Dickson
begin  Dimitri Maziuk  quotation:

> * Craig Dickson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) spake thusly:
> ...
> > So, now the question: why does XFree86 4.1 (Sid) insist on using the
> > vaguely flickery 60Hz mode rather than the nice 85Hz mode? 
> 
> Because it's just a dumb computer program?

I guess so! I still think it's connected with that line in the log
about the clock range having an upper limit of 136 MHz. But I can't
figure out where it gets that idea.

> > Now, as best I can understand all this, it seems that both my i810E and
> > my Philips monitor should support the 85 MHz 1280x960 mode, so the next
> > question is how to force XFree86 to use it, and whether I risk damaging
> > any of my hardware in doing so? 
> 
> man XF86Config-4. You can specify ModeLine's, just like in X v.3.
> Xvidtune is your friend, too. As for damaging the hardware -- unlikely: 
> modern hardware is smart enough to shut itself off (YMMV, of course).

Google gave me a number of possible modes. I ended up settling (for now)
for a 75 Hz 1280x960 that works well. If I ever get really ambitious, I
can try for an 80-90 Hz mode, but 75 looks pretty solid.

Craig


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Re: Which FTP client?

2002-02-03 Thread Crispin Wellington
On Sun, 2002-02-03 at 02:37, Dimitri Maziuk wrote:
> * Balazs Javor ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) spake thusly:
> > Hi!
> > 
> > I'm trying to replace my current favorite FTP client
> > CuteFTP with a Linux one.
> > Which is the best client out there?
> > 
> > I'd like to be able to:
> > -easyly create a queue of files and directories (recursive)
> >  to be downloaded
> > -leave it unattended
> > 
> > For the second point it should be able to reconnect if
> > disconnected and retry say every 60 seconds if it does not
> > get it. Then it should resume the downloads without asking
> > questions.
> > 
> > Any advise is greatly appreciated!
> > Many thanks for your help in advance!
> 
> I use ncftp, but there's also lftp etc. As for unattended
> downloads and auto-retries, learn some shell scripting.
> There's little point in programming that functionality
> into ftp client when all you need to do is call it in eg.
> a while loop (man bash).

lftp is exactly what Balazs needs. It becomes super powerful with its
scripting stuff. Just write all your lftp commands down in a file and
lftp -f script. The backgrounding of downloads and queuing with the &
shell like stuff is great too.

No gui though, but you wont miss it, in fact you'll feel sorry for those
poor cuteftp people . Trust me :) apt-get install lftp

Crispin



Into Debian [was: [±¤°í] CD¹øÈ£ºÎ2002 Àü±¹ÆÇ ¾È³»]

2002-02-03 Thread Wendell Cochran
>Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2002 20:22:28 -0800
>From: " Bruce Burhans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Ben, thanks. I've seriously looked into the dual-boot approach and
>concluded that I'm very likely to end up with two non-working OSs.  If I
>had more experience or a pro like you for a neighbor, sure. But I'm
>basically on my own and a true newbie.
[snip] 

It all sounds like me, even to isolation & the reading list.

I don't mean to argue with Ben, exactly, as mileage does vary.  However:
I learned vi & some basic Unix via a shell account. (Oh, you want to
know how much?  See _Learning the UNIX Operating System_; O'Reilly --
hardly that much.)  Next I designed a new box & hired a Linux man to put
it together for me; he installed both Win95 & Red Hat 5.2.

My work as a free-lance editor (geology, mostly) tied me tightly to Win,
& I lacked the time & nerve to even explore Linux.  But one day Win,
always crash-prone, crashed catastrophically -- & in a blasphemous rage
I wiped everything Microsoft off my drives, informed my assignment
editor that this machine was under New Management, & learned what I had
to learn when I had to learn it.

I've never regretted it.  Never.

Thus you may convert sooner than you now think.

Wendell Cochran
West Seattle

PS  Karsten M. Self would have me say that the practice in this list is
postfix:  comment _below_ the mesg quoted.   It reads easier that way.



Re: Duplicating installed system

2002-02-03 Thread Magnus Hacker



fine. Again lilo complains about invalid /dev/hda1 (dos partition).
But
it can be mounted. So, I just commented out and ran lilo. No
complaints
now. But while booting it just stops and says,

  Kernel panic: I can't find a root and I want to scream.

Everything is there. Checked the /etc/fstab and all other places.


I guess the problem is that the root disk on the new system is
not on the same partition as it was on the old system. Either
the kernel itself knows where the root fs is, and in that case
you have to tell it with rdev where it is, or you have to tell
it in lilo.conf.

The kernel has to know from where to mount root. /etc/fstab can't be
read before the root filesystem is mounted, so it has to be told
in another way (lilo.conf or rdev).

/Hacker



Re: mutt setup help, please

2002-02-03 Thread christophe barbé
On Sun, Feb 03, 2002 at 09:40:49AM -0500, stan wrote:
> Umm, I;m still doing something wrong here.
> 
> Here is the appropriate section from ~/.mutt/muttrc:


> alias hpadmin "HPUX Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> subscribe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> alias du "Debian User List" 
> subscribe 

Try without "<" and ">" :

subscribe debian-user@lists.debian.org

Christophe


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Christophe Barbé <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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(Intelligenti pauca.) 


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Re: [±¤°í] CD¹øÈ£ºÎ =?iso-8859-1?B?MjAwMiDA /LG5xscgvsizuw==?=

2002-02-03 Thread dman
On Sun, Feb 03, 2002 at 11:48:52AM -0500, Wayne Topa wrote:
| dman([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:

| > SpamAssassin does a pretty good job of tagging these so I can
| > automagically dump them.
| 
| Then I am doing something wrong.  Spamassassin doesn't do anything
| with them except put in  "X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0 required=5
| tests=".
|  
| Must be a configuration problem but I sure can't find it. :-(

Are you using 'spamc' or 'spamassassin' as the filter?  If spamc, is
spamd running?  If you use "spamc -f" and there is a problem
communicating with the daemon, then the message is returned as
non-spam.  spamd logs connections in syslog (also 'xconsole' shows the
messages). 

Save the message to a file and run it through
spamc -f | egrep "X-Spam|SPAM"
and
spamassassin -P | egrep "X-Spam|SPAM"

if the former fails and the latter works, then it is a spamd problem
you are having.

HTH,
-D

-- 

The Lord detests all the proud of heart.
Be sure of this: They will not go unpunished.
Proverbs 16:7



Re: [±¤°í] CD¹øÈ£ºÎ =?iso-8859-1?B?MjAwMiDA /LG5xscgvsizuw==?=

2002-02-03 Thread Wayne Topa
dman([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
> On Sat, Feb 02, 2002 at 03:17:37PM -0800, Bruce Burhans wrote:
> | 
> | From: "Carl Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> | To: 
> | Subject: Re: [±¤°í] CD¹øÈ£ºÎ2002 Àü±¹ÆÇ ¾È³»
> | Date: Saturday, February 02, 2002 2:31 PM
> | 
> | terry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> | 
> | > what are these chinese/japanese/exotic/* advertisement emails that we
> | get
> | > regularly on the list(?)...lol
> | 
> | I don't know either, but did you see the suggestion for dealing with
> | Chinese spam in rec.humor.funny yesterday?  It might be a good way to
> | discourage them.
> 
> SpamAssassin does a pretty good job of tagging these so I can
> automagically dump them.

Then I am doing something wrong.  Spamassassin doesn't do anything
with them except put in  "X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0 required=5
tests=".
 
Must be a configuration problem but I sure can't find it. :-(
-- 
Think of your family tonight.  Try to crawl home after the computer
crashes.
___



Re: The New World Order is Here !

2002-02-03 Thread Stig Brautaset
* Oleksandr Moskalenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spake thus:
> 
> Stig,
> 
> Would you mind sharing your set of procmail filters?

I don't mind at all. In fact, that has been the goal all the time, hence
it is vigorously commented and implemented with "easy tuning" variables
at the top for people that find procmails syntax a bit terse. I just
wanted to test it a bit more first.

My understanding of attachments and/or MIME is a bit poor at the moment,
so the code for that part may a bit embarrasing. I eventually want to be
able to just drop the non-text part of a multipart message "on the
floor" and just leaving a message at the top saying "[was multipart type
X, crap dropped]" similar to the html filter. 

A warning though; this was implemented without reading any RFCs; I have
just tried to tweak it until it filed everything *I* felt was spam in my
spam folder and having as few false positives as possible. I have a few
other ideas not implemented yet as to how to be even more successfull at
that, but I am starting to become very pleased with how this works now.

Let's call it GPL'ed software, shall we? I am not an expert on
licensing, and don't intend to become one, but I might have to read the
GPL one day... It goes without saying that no guarratee is provided with
this software, don't blame me if you lose mail or your system explodes. 

The only other restriction I set is that if you find any errors or have
any suggestions as to how I can improve this software, please let me
know.

Stig

-- 
brautaset.org
Registered Linux User 107343

# my .procmailrc file, from beginning to end.
PATH=$HOME/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin
MAILDIR=$HOME/Mail
DEFAULT=in.mbox
LOGFILE=log
VERBOSE=on

# This is the limit at which we consider the message spam.
limit=28

# This is the version number 
version=0.0.5

# Files section.

# This is the folder that spam will go to.
spam_folder=spam

# The Message_Id: headers of messages that are considered spam are stored
# here, and used to automagically black-hole messages that reference it. This
# is useful on mailing lists where follow-up to spam is a problem. 
spam_id=spam_id

# This file is where spammer addresses (possibly partial addresses) are
# stored. Messages to/from any of these are most likely spam, so junk them.
# TODO: make the score for this option configurable as well.
blacklist=blacklist

# This file is the opposite of the one above; mail from these addresses are
# never filed as spam.
whitelist=whitelist

# Sometimes, esp. when you post to various mailing lists or use fetchmail to
# get your mail via a slow connection, you experience getting the same mail
# twice. Set this to 'yes' if you want to recive duplicated messages twice
# (or more!).
recive_duplicated=no

# This file will contain any duplicated messages if the above is set.
duplicates=duplicates


# These variables are here to make the filter a bit easier to tweak; they are
# normal procmail-style regular expressions (CAVEAT: shellmetas must be
# escaped twice.

# A message that does not match any of my addresses in the header is more
# than likely spam.
my_addresses="(([EMAIL PROTECTED]|[EMAIL PROTECTED])\.no|[EMAIL PROTECTED])"

# If the message is not to me directly.
cc_to_me=5

# If a message is not addressed to me at all (matches mailing lists such as
# debian-user, but I found out that spam on these lists are much more
# frequent and as such it does make sense to give them a head start in the
# point-gathering process).
not_to_me=10

# Messages from these domains are often spam.
crap_domains="(aol|msn|hotmail|earthlink)"
crap_domain_score=9

# These words in the body of the mail is positive.
positive_words="(Stig|Brautaset|:-\))"
positive_words_score=3

# Char sets different than these are not appreciated.
ok_charsets="(latin|iso-8859|Windows-1252|us-ascii|utf-8)"
bad_charset_score=13

# These words in the body counts against it being a legitimate mail. The
# score will be per word, but long mails that mentions the words sparsely
# will be less severely punished than short mails.
negative_words="(money|loose\ weight|click\ (here|to)|save|privacy|free\ 
|remove\ yourself|test|please\ ignore|ignore\ 
this|unsubscribe|e-?mail|microsoft|windows)"
negative_words_score=4

# I know where to get my porn, please don't bother me with yours. 
porn="(sex|porn|tits|penis|cock|erection|hardon|horny|slut\ 
|uncensored|privacy|celeb|hotties|viagra|whore|toonz|adult)"
porn_score=8

# I really detest excessive punctuation. This is for the subject line.
crap_chars="(!|?|\\*|\\$|\||-|\"|\')"

# Same as above, but many people use '-' and '*' in signatures, so this
# regular expression is for the body.
crap_chars_body="(!|?|\\||\\$)"

# This is the regular expression that we should skip when looking at subject
# lines.
re_skip_string="(re:|fwd:|fw:|sv:|\[gllug\])"

# I absolutely hate html mail.
strip_html=yes
html_content_score=13

# If the subject line ends in "[aoe09]" or something similar, it better not
# breach anything e

Re: Woody's version on Squid and http / https proxy of AOL IM

2002-02-03 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
hanasaki  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Since upgrading to Woody, the http proxy connection, squid, from AOL IM 
>fails with "unable to connect"  https has never worked for me as a proxy 
>through Squid.  The proxy setting used in AIM are the same ones that are 
>currently working fine for Mozilla on Win and Lin and IE on Win - both 
>for http and https.
>Any have input as to what might be going on and how to fix it?  Anyone 
>"ever" get https proxy to work with AIM?

Why would you want to use http or https with AIM? That's an ICQ
like thingy, right? Squid is web proxy, not a gateway.

But if you really mean http and https, the logfiles in /var/log/squid
should give you a clue as to what goes wrong.

Mike.
-- 
Computers are useless, they only give answers. --Pablo Picasso



Re: Segfaults in seemingly unrelated programs

2002-02-03 Thread Rob Mahurin
On Sat, Feb 02, 2002 at 08:52:36PM -0700, Rick Macdonald wrote:
> On Sat, 2 Feb 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > Due to a faulty fan, one CPU overheated and brought the system down. On
> > restart, fsck indicated that some filesystem corruption occured.
> > 
> > On startup, gdm would not start. After entering my username in the
> > console, the login prompt came back without giving me the opportunity to
> > enter my password. The logical next step, booting in single user mode.
> > 
> > In single user mode, it quickly appeared that a few programs segfault.
> 
> I had similar symptoms once. Segfaults and apparently corrupted disk
> files. It turned out to be a bad memory SIMM. Try running memtest86 for
> awhile (10 minutes to an hour or more; depends on how much memory you have
> and how fast the cpu is).
> 
> After I replaced the memory, I reinstalled all packages "in-place"
> (declining any config files) to refresh any files that may have been bad.
> Made me feel better, at least.

I had the same thought, though I'm not sure how an overheated CPU fan
could damage the memory.  It seems more likely that the libraries Jim
mentions are corrupted, and the one program that works is somehow
"lucky".  A memtest couldn't hurt, though.

This is a randomly generated .sig, I swear.

Rob

-- 
You will be called upon to help a friend in trouble.



Woody's version on Squid and http / https proxy of AOL IM

2002-02-03 Thread hanasaki
Since upgrading to Woody, the http proxy connection, squid, from AOL IM 
fails with "unable to connect"  https has never worked for me as a proxy 
through Squid.  The proxy setting used in AIM are the same ones that are 
currently working fine for Mozilla on Win and Lin and IE on Win - both 
for http and https.


Any have input as to what might be going on and how to fix it?  Anyone 
"ever" get https proxy to work with AIM?


Thank you.
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Spam : def: It's not kosher.



Re: What is a good, small, web browser?

2002-02-03 Thread Rob Mahurin
On Sat, Feb 02, 2002 at 06:20:18PM -0800, Eric G. Miller wrote:
> On Sat, 2 Feb 2002 17:58:06 -0800, "Karsten M. Self"  
> wrote:
> 
> [snip]
> > It's not for older/slower boxen though.  I'd recommend *NO LESS* than a
> > PII-233, and think you'll be happier with a PIII-600+ CPU.  For memory,
> > 128 MiB minimum, 256 strongly recommended.  Particularly under intensive
> > use (I can easily get over 100 tabs/windows open) it sucks both CPU and
> > memory.  But it does good things with both.
> 
> Galeon does fine on this old 266 with 64MB of RAM.  It certainly does
> better than Mozilla proper or Konqueror (KDE > 1.x is just too memory
> hungry).  So, while 128 is probably nicer, I'd hesitate to say it was
> the minimum.

I'm also running Galeon quite happily on a P-200, albeit with 128 MB
of RAM.  The menus are a bit sluggish to display, but the browser as a
whole is much better/faster/cheaper than anything else I've used.

Rob

-- 
If you are honest because honesty is the best policy, your honesty is corrupt.



Re: Woody root on RAID and 2.4.17

2002-02-03 Thread John Pochmara
George,

>And then, once the RAID system is bootable, install the MBR to /dev/sdb as
>well:
>
># MBR's to which lilo will be installed
>raid-extra-boot=/dev/sda, /dev/sdb
>
>Am I getting this right?  I wouldn't like to trash the single-disk install
>too...

What I did was get everything running in RAID mode
except for /boot.  I compeletly RAIDed the root, swap,
and other partitions except for /boot.  I rebooted
and had everything but /boot running in RAID mode with
the 'failed-disk' changed to 'raid-disk' and synced
with the 'raidhotadd' command.  This includes updating
/etc/fstab and lilo.conf.  In lilo.conf you need
to point 'root=' to the RAID device and run lilo
to update stuff, but don't change the 'boot=' field
yet.  You need to do the fstab and lilo update before
rebooting.

Once this was all working, I then did the RAID conversion 
on /boot. The steps I took for /boot where:

1) Shutdown 0 (to get to single user mode).

2) Copy /boot to /dev/md0 (I created md0 when I created
   the other RAID devices).

3) Umount old /boot

4) Mount /dev/md0 as /boot

5) Edit /etc/fstab to point /boot at the RAID device.

6) Edit lilo.conf to point /boot at the RAID devivce,
   add the 'raid-extra-boot' line with BOTH
   devices.

7) Run lilo -vt (testing) and see if everything
   looks okay.

8) Then I ran lilo -v .

9) Reboot.

10) Once the system was up and running I finished
the RAID conversion of /boot.

10a) Once the RAID conversion of /boot was done
 I ran lilo -v again.  I don't think this is needed,
 but I did it anyways.


This worked for the first time for me.  Unlike
what is documented in the HOWTO for booting
from a RAID, which created an unbootable system :-( .

For the above to work you need the latest lilo version
(22.1) so check that before starting down this road.


--John
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: The New World Order is Here !

2002-02-03 Thread Oleksandr Moskalenko

Stig,

Would you mind sharing your set of procmail filters?


Regards,

Alex.
* Stig Brautaset ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> 
> Err... No? Whatever gave you that idea? Did you not read my post? 
> 
> My spam filter caught the original spam, based on such things as sender
> address, character set used, adjacent crap characters in subject
> ([EMAIL PROTECTED]&* etc.) and body, whether the subject is empty or lacks 
> lower
> case characters (all caps subjects are seldom legit mail), certain
> words in the body and more. None of these are enough to trigger the
> filter on their own--that would create far too many false positives. 
> 
> However, when a follow-up to a previously caught spam is detected
> (using the references/in-reply-to header) it is instantly filed as spam.
> 
> When the OP reposted the spam he did so with a "legal" subject line,
> announcing a (to me) understandable charset, a non-depreciated sender
> address and without the references/in-reply-to header that would link it
> to the previous spam so I could instantly blackhole it.
> 
> Please explain to me, in the light of this information, how I can
> improve my spam-detection routines so that I would be able to catch the
> original post of this tread. I am genuinely interested to find out how
> you think that is possible.
> 
> Stig
> 
> -- 
> brautaset.org
> Registered Linux User 107343
> 
> ``Oh, how I wish `undo' was ported to everyday life.''
> 
> 
> -- 
> To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 

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Re: The New World Order is Here !

2002-02-03 Thread Bud Rogers
On Saturday 02 February 2002 22:26 pm, Stig Brautaset wrote:

> Can you please stop reposting spam to the list? My spamfilter caught the
> original spam, but there is precious little I can do about followups to
> spam when (a) the subject line is changed, and (b) there is no
> "References:" or "In-Reply-To:" header left in the mail. 

And again and again, the problem is not irate list members reposting spam 
nor the effectiveness of your filters.  The problem is the policy allowing 
non-subscribers to post to the list which gives every spammer who wants to 
use it an open relay to the entire subscriber list.  No matter how you 
tune your filters this will continue to be the problem.

-- 
Bud Rogers  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>   http://www.sirinet.net/~budr
All things in moderation.  And not too much moderation either.



Re: Problem with tasksel

2002-02-03 Thread Colin Watson
On Sun, Feb 03, 2002 at 02:30:46AM +, Stig Brautaset wrote:
> I might be wrong, but I think the problem is that tasksel "Does Not
> Work(tm)(R)" with anything other than potato. I'm guessing that nobody
> have 'defined' or set up the dependencies for the packages yet. I am
> further guessing that this will not happen before we get a freeze.

tasksel works fine in woody, provided that you've run 'dselect update'
or otherwise updated /var/lib/dpkg/available, and the tasks have been
defined.

-- 
Colin Watson  [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: Problem with tasksel

2002-02-03 Thread Colin Watson
On Sat, Feb 02, 2002 at 05:53:54PM -0800, Kapil Khosla wrote:
> I was installing woody over the network and had some problem so could
> not install the base system.
> After rebooting I configured the problem with the network but now how
> to i resume the installation ?
> 
> I just get the prompt and when i run tasksel it says
> No tasks were found
> Did you update your available file ?

You need to run 'dselect update'. 'apt-get update' is not sufficient, as
it doesn't update dpkg's available file, which tasksel uses.

See also bug #114721.

-- 
Colin Watson  [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: Woody root on RAID and 2.4.17

2002-02-03 Thread George Karaolides

Hi,

>
>   /dev/md0 - /boot
>   /dev/md1 - swap
>   /dev/md2 - root
>

> ># Specifies the boot device.  This is where Lilo installs its boot
> ># block.  It can be either a partition, or the raw device, in which
> ># case it installs in the MBR, and will overwrite the current MBR.
> >#
> >boot=/dev/md0
> >raid-extra-boot = "/dev/hdi,/dev/hde"
> >
> ># Specifies the device that should be mounted as root. (`/')
> >#
> >root=/dev/md2

Thanks John.  Now bear with me for a while...

I've got this setup:

/boot on /dev/md1 (/dev/sda1 and /dev/sdb1)
root on /dev/md2 (/dev/sda2 and /dev/sdb2)

I've got a normal single-disk installation on /dev/sdb.  I've marked all
the partitions on /dev/sda as "failed-disk" in /etc/raidtab.  So the RAID
is running in degraded mode, until I manage to boot into it.  Then I'll
change the entries to "raid-disk" and raidhotadd the partitions.

This is fairly standard procedure, I understand; you install a single-disk
system, start RAID arrays which include partitions on the disk with the
system on it as "failed-disk", clone the system into the arrays, make the
RAID system bootable, boot into it, mark the "failed" partitions
as "raid" and raidhotadd them.  I have done this successfully a number of
times with kernel 2.2  and the older lilo.

Now to keep my single-disk system bootable, I guess from what you write
that I need to put this in /etc/lilo.conf:

---

# device with /boot filesystem
boot=/dev/md1

# MBR's to which lilo will be installed; omit /dev/sdb
# until the RAID system is bootable
raid-extra-boot=/dev/sda

# device with root filesystem
root=/dev/md2

---

And then, once the RAID system is bootable, install the MBR to /dev/sdb as
well:

# MBR's to which lilo will be installed
raid-extra-boot=/dev/sda, /dev/sdb

Am I getting this right?  I wouldn't like to trash the single-disk install
too...

Best regards,

George





Re: Accelerated NVidia XWindows ? ....

2002-02-03 Thread Crispin Wellington
On Sun, 2002-02-03 at 05:05, Sean wrote:
> Actually NVidia doesn't use DRI ... they have their own direct hardware
> interface that's bundled with the binary driver.
> 

They're very fast, but I have found slightly unstable. Starting and
stopping the Xserver on a few different VT's (say 7 and 8) and switching
them back and forth (I was doing this for some Window Managment code I
was working on.) Killed the display dead. The machine was still very
much alive, but it was all black screen.

Had some other strange things happen with heavy Q3 load.

But man are they fast :)

Crispin



Re: mutt setup help, please

2002-02-03 Thread stan
On Sat, Feb 02, 2002 at 09:25:16PM -0500, dman wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 02, 2002 at 06:02:27PM -0500, Stan Brown wrote:
> | 
> | I'm making progress on this mutt setup, but I have a few questiosn, if you
> | have time.
> | 
> | 1. Can you send me an example alieas entry? It looks like I will have to
> | create that file by hand from my existing elm aliases file, and I can't
> | seem to find it's format documented.
> 
> alias  
> 
> For example :
> 
> alias stan1 Stan Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> alias stan2 "Stan Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> alias stan3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stan Brown)
> 
> 
> I just glanced at the list and I agree with Stig that using vim is
> probably the easiest solution.  I'm not familiar with the record and
> playback mechanism so I would use the "substitute" command
> ( :s/regex/text/ ).  The same could be done with sed.  I can't help
> with a pattern to use because I don't remember elm's format.
> 
> | 2. Do I really have to enter each mailing list by hand into the mutrc file
> | to get it to work corectly with mailing lists? I sort each of the lists
> | that I am subscribed to inot seperate mialbox files, so I can't figure out
> | how else to do this.
> 
> You do need to add each address with the "list" or "subscribe" tag.
> Perhaps my address file will help: 

Umm, I;m still doing something wrong here.

Here is the appropriate section from ~/.mutt/muttrc:



# show the name in my address book if no name given
set reverse_alias = yes

# fix broken mailing list software
set ignore_list_reply_to = yes

set forward_format = "FW: %s"
set index_format = "%4C %Z %{%b %d} %-15.15L (%4l) %?M?(#%03M)&(%4l)? %s"
set sort=threads 
set sort_aux=date


###
# Aliases :

# this is where mutt will save new aliases created
set alias_file="~/.mutt/Addresses"

# get my Address book
source ~/.mutt/Addresses

And hee's a sample entry from ~/.mutt/Addresses:



#
# Lists
#
#
alias hpadmin "HPUX Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
subscribe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

alias du "Debian User List" 
subscribe 

> 
> ~~~
> 
> 
> # Mailing Lists :
> 
> alias abc-users abcusers@argyll.wisemagic.com
> lists abcusers@argyll.wisemagic.com
> 
> alias bind-user [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> lists [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> alias debian-bts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> alias debian-devel debian-devel@lists.debian.org
> lists debian-devel@lists.debian.org
> 
> 
But if I'm in a mailbox that's from a mailing list, and I hit 'L' I get "No 
mailing lists
defined"

BTW, I'm still unclear on the difference between "lists" and "subscribe", and I 
can have
multiple "lists" entries, right?


-- 
"They that would give up essential liberty for temporary safety deserve
neither liberty nor safety."
-- Benjamin Franklin



Re: [±¤°í] CD¹øÈ£ºÎ2002 Àü±¹ÆÇ ¾È³»

2002-02-03 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
On Sat, 2 Feb 2002,  Bruce Burhans wrote:

> broken down in November  2001, and I just ordered a Gateway  the nest
> day for MS Word. I do a lot of writing and couldn't even spare the time

Why not get OpenOffice or StarOffice instead?  It can open, edit and
save to MS formats without having to dick around with Windows (unless
you run Windows, in which there's versions for that, too).  Plus, if
someone had more time than I do right now to package stuff, they could
go in main and non-free, respectively.

> There's someone that
> will babysit over the phone while I run through LILO config, cfdsk, and
> dbootstrap and dselect/dpkg, but I have to feel comfortable with the
> process first, in my mind.

If you don't mind calling Beaverton, Oregon, sure (area code 503, but
still well inside the 503/971 overlap).

> I have become dependent on e-mail for business, and the Install must
> work the first time/day.

If you have straightforward hardware, this shouldn't be a problem.  If
it's absolutely mission critical, I'd start on an extra machine first so
you can get everything settled before diving full on.

-- 
Baloo



Re: [±¤°í] CD¹øÈ£ºÎ2002 Àü±¹ÆÇ ¾È³»

2002-02-03 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
On Sat, 2 Feb 2002, dman wrote:

> SpamAssassin does a pretty good job of tagging these so I can
> automagically dump them.

You should automagically dump them into a seperate folder and run them
through spamcop.net.  It won't slw/stop unless you're proactive about
it.

-- 
Baloo



lpd filter error: No way to print this type of input file

2002-02-03 Thread Serafim Zanikolas
Hello Debian fellows!

I was fine with the lpr printing system 'till I moved to the lpr-ppd
package (version 1:0.72-2).  When I try to print a text file I get an
email with a subject of
``Subject: error while running /var/spool/lpd/lp0/filter to print''
and the following message:

 -- email start --
Could not find requested printer:
Could not find requested printer:
Could not find requested printer:
Could not find requested printer:
No way to print this type of input file:  ASCII English text
^L
 -- email end --

$ ls -l /var/spool/lpd/lp0/filter
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   35 Ιαν 24 10:19
/var/spool/lpd/lp0/filter -> /usr/lib/printfilters/master-filter

Here's my /etc/printcap, which was produced using printtool.

 -- /etc/printcap start --
# $Id$
# $Log$

# /etc/printcap: printer capability database. See printcap(5).
# You can use the filter entries df, tf, cf, gf etc. for
# your own filters. See /etc/filter.ps, /etc/filter.pcl and
# the printcap(5) manual page for further details.

##PRINTTOOL3## LOCAL bj200 360x360 a4 {} CanonBJ-200 Default {}
lp:\
:lp0:\
:sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp0:\
:mx#0:\
:sh:\
:lp=/dev/lp0:\
:if=/var/spool/lpd/lp0/filter:\
:PAPERSIZE=a4:\
:DESIRED_TO=ps:\
:PRINTER_TYPE=LOCAL:\
:ASCII_TO_PS=YES:\
:GSDEVICE=bj200:\
:RESOLUTION=360x360:\
:PS_SEND_EOF=NO:\
:NUP=1:\
:RTLFTMAR=18:\
:TOPBOTMAR=18:\
:TEXT_SEND_EOF=NO:
 -- /etc/printcap end --

Needless to mention that the same problem occurs while trying to print
postscript files.

Another piece of info that might be useful is the output of lpc:

$ /usr/sbin/lpc status
lp:
queuing is enabled
printing is enabled
no entries
no daemon present

and, yes, the daemon IS running

$ ps -C lpd
  PID TTY  TIME CMD
  16848 ?00:00:00 lpd

BTW I'm running 2.2.19 and Debian testing.

Any hints?  Please cc me, as I'm not subscribed in the list.
Thank you in advance!

-- 
Serafim Zanikolas   Proud of running
http://www.it.teithe.gr/~serzan Debian GNU/Linux



Automagic spam prevention and reporting

2002-02-03 Thread Paul 'Baloo' Johnson
On Sat, 2 Feb 2002, Karsten M. Self wrote:

> Search for the very effective chinese/asian characterset procmail
> filters via Google.  I don't see the messages, and report them to
> upstream ISPs automatically with Ricochet (a "razor" precursor).

Interesting.  How accurate is ricochet and how easy is it to install?

-- 
Baloo



Re: The New World Order is Here !

2002-02-03 Thread CaT
On Sat, Feb 02, 2002 at 11:30:05PM -0800,  Bruce Burhans wrote:
> > > > [1] -- Nothing personal; this is an issue that have irritated me a
> > > >long time, unfortunately for you I am fed up now and need to
> > > >vent my frustration.
> > >
> > > wouldn't that be more an issue of the inefficacy of your filters?
> >
> > You're right. An ak-47 would filter out those replying to spam really
> > well.
> 
> It goes without saying that people who think violence solves
> anything aren't very bright.

Violence -does- solve things. Just not in the best possible manner.

Now, do I really want to put an ak-47 to someone's head? No. That's just
an expression of the frustration I'm feeling due to the 2400 messages
in my spamfilter mailbox that I've managed to filter over the past 2
months that I was forced to download. And I -know- there's more in my
main mailbox as I keep having to refine my recepies to catch them.

Do I -really- need to make them even more complicated to catch the
fuckheads that reply to spam?

No.

They simply need to realise that yes, it is spam and no, it's not
welcome and yes, we all wish it would stop.

Now, there's an element of hypocrocy here in my continuing this thread
so I'm going to stop. If you -do- wish to reply and for me to take note
of said reply, feel free but do it offlist. Otherwise I'll just ignore
it for the additional spam that it is.

Oh. And if you plan on replying with more silly generalisations, please
don't bother either. Why? Because they're laughable.

Now, my apologies to one and all. Last word and all. ;)

-- 
SOCCER PLAYER IN GENITAL-BITING SCANDAL  ---  "It was something between
friends that I thought would have no importance until this morning when
I got up and saw all  the commotion in the news,"  Gallardo told a news
conference. "It stunned me."
Reyes told Marca that he had "felt a slight pinch."
  -- http://www.azcentral.com/offbeat/articles/1129soccer29-ON.html



Re: Latex & letter's headers...

2002-02-03 Thread Paul Huygen
"Jeremy T. Bouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Tried your example [of a personal LaTeX Class to produce letters]
> here but kept running into problems trying
> to find the hitpos.sty file... 

>   Jeremy

Thank you for trying. And sorry that it didn't work out. I was toot quick
and sent an unfinished example. The following example has actually been tried 
and
works.

Paul Huygen.



The class:
---
%
% myletter.cls
%
\NeedsTeXFormat{LaTeX2e}
\ProvidesClass{hitlnl}[1999/10/31 Fist, beta, version]
%\RequirePackage{hitpos}
\RequirePackage[absolute]{textpos}
\LoadClass[adresrechts]{brief}
\voetitem{Telephone:}{0123-456789}
\voetitem{Fax:}{0123-456789}
\voetitem{E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
\setlength\footsep{30mm}
\signature{Dr.~P.E.M.~Huygen}
\renewcommand{\briefhoofd}{%
\setlength{\TPHorizModule}{1mm}
\setlength{\TPVertModule}{1mm}
 \begin{textblock}{60}(9,36)
\parbox{60mm}{ %\mbox{\includegraphics{mylogo.eps}}
 {\Large The Logo}
 \\  mycompanynaam 
 \\  myaddress
 }
 \end{textblock}
}
\newcommand{\vg}{Met vriendelijke groet,}

Here the letter

---
\documentclass{myletter}
\begin{document}
\begin{brief}{  Jeremy T. Bouse
 \\ Streetname 123
 \\ City
 \\ Italy
 }

\opening{Dear Jeremy,}

this is a small, but complete, letter.

\closing{\vg}
\end{brief}
\end{document}




Re: problems with Quota

2002-02-03 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Mikkel Johan Grønmo  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I'm experiencing some difficulties using quota..
>When,
>[naboer:/home2/miga]# edquota -u bluee
>I get,
>edquota: open remount-ro permission denied
>edquota: open remount-ro permission denied
>.
>perhaps if I list the fstab also? It might clarify something unknown for me.
>#   
>  
>/dev/hda1   /   ext2
>defaults,usrquota,grpquota,errors=remount-ro0   1

Look, here's the same string: "remount-ro". Try leaving out the
errors=remount-ro part.

Mike.



Re: Why do I need all these apt-howto-* files?

2002-02-03 Thread Stig Brautaset
* Davide Inglima - limaCAT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spake thus:
>  
>> Remove apt-howto and the language specific versions you don't want.  As I
>> understand it, the apt-howto package now only contains dependancies for
>> all language variants as opposed to the howto itself.  Keeping (as an
>> example) apt-howto-en would thus keep the actual howto available and
>> upgradeable.
> 
> Hi, actually I had the same problem as Ron, so I followed the apt-get
> remove procedure you described. Unfortunately I came accross this problem:
> 
> I removed apt-howto, a series of translated apt-howtos fine. However 
> the brasilian/portuguese version of apt-howto won't uninstall.
> 
> even:~# dpkg -l | grep apt-how
> ii  apt-howto-en   1.7.6-4A Guide to APT
> ii  apt-howto-pt-b 1.7.6-4A Guide to APT
> even:~# apt-get remove apt-howto-pt-b 
> Reading Package Lists... Done
> Building Dependency Tree... Done
> E: Couldn't find package apt-howto-pt-b

That would be because there *is* no package named that. It is
conveniently named apt-howto-pt-br. The 'r' on the end is hidden by dpkg
-l because the name of the package is too long. This mends it (in bash):

COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l

or, you can simply resize you (a|x|e)term ;)

> Using "Aptitude" however I managed to uninstall it.
> Is that because of a mismatch in naming of the package of the pt-b
> translation?

No, it is because aptitude spelled the name of the package correctly ;)


Stig

-- 
brautaset.org
Registered Linux User 107343

``Oh, how I wish `undo' was ported to everyday life.''



Re: new Debian FAQs

2002-02-03 Thread Ulrich Eckhardt
Have you taken a look at wiki.debian.net ? Looks promising imho ...



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