Solved (Re: DNS/Sendmail problems)

2002-03-10 Thread nate

> I've been tryin to debug this for about 2 hours now and have
> run out of ideas.

Haven't recieved much mail from the list today, but I don't
think its on my side.. Been recieving freebsd mailing list
and ldap and samba today ..hmm

anyways, I solved the problem. I went through again and
cleaned up some stuff, and turns out one of my nameservers
(this machine) had the domain linuxpowered.net as type master,
when it is not infact the master host(yet). once i changed it to
type slave it started working again.

i had planned to move my domains over to this server, and
configured the DNS accordingly but forgot to do it, and
in the meantime my /etc/resolv.conf wasn't using the DNS on
the local machine which is why I didn't detect the problem
earlier, once i started using the local DNS last wednesday the
problem immediately surfaced.

and my other machines have returned to normal as well :)

nate





Re: CD-ROM doesn't mount w/ 2.4.18

2002-03-10 Thread Alvin Oga

hi ya mark

- check your cables... keep it straight as reasonably possible

- use the short ata-66/100 ide cables ( 18" or less )
- cables should have ground between the signals
80 conductors vs 40...

- use one disk per cable... do NOT mix and match ide speeds
ata-33 on one cable
ata-66 on a different cable
ata-100 on a 3rd cable... 
... dont mix um up

- since its the cdrom that is timing out... its probably that
  the system is talking ot it at ata-66/100 speeds insteadof ata-33

c ya
alvin
http://www.Linux-1U.net/Disks ... ide - scsi stuff ...


On Sun, 10 Mar 2002, Mark wrote:

> 
> 
> Has anyone seen something like this when trying to mount their CD-ROM with
> some of the latest kernel releases?
> 
> hdc: status error: status=0x58 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest }
> hdc: drive not ready for command
> hdc: status timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy }
> hdc: DMA disabled
> hdc: drive not ready for command
> hdc: ATAPI reset complete
> hdc: irq timeout: status=0x80 { Busy }
> hdc: ATAPI reset complete
> hdc: irq timeout: status=0x80 { Busy }
> end_request: I/O error, dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 124
> ISOFS: unable to read i-node block
> 
> 
> I was able to mount the same drive and same CD in 2.2.19 with no problems.
> 



CD-ROM doesn't mount w/ 2.4.18

2002-03-10 Thread Mark


Has anyone seen something like this when trying to mount their CD-ROM with
some of the latest kernel releases?

hdc: status error: status=0x58 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest }
hdc: drive not ready for command
hdc: status timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy }
hdc: DMA disabled
hdc: drive not ready for command
hdc: ATAPI reset complete
hdc: irq timeout: status=0x80 { Busy }
hdc: ATAPI reset complete
hdc: irq timeout: status=0x80 { Busy }
end_request: I/O error, dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 124
ISOFS: unable to read i-node block


I was able to mount the same drive and same CD in 2.2.19 with no problems.





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Re: Truly stupid menu seting

2002-03-10 Thread Joe
On Sun, Mar 10, 2002 at 07:45:12PM -0500, stan wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 10, 2002 at 05:34:04PM -0600, Dale Hair wrote:
> > You can configure gdm to allow root login.
> > As user open xterm
> > su
> > root password
> > gdmconfig
> > 
> > Under options choose Expert and allow root to login with gdm. 
> > 
> Thanks for the tip.
> 
> However that does not explain the stupidity of puting somehting in a menu
> that wont ever work.


I can't understand why someone would obsess over one little item, when the 
kde/gnome/distribution/ximian/his/hers/its/theirs clusterf**k menu
provided on any Linux box I've ever seen is a paragon of uselessness.

Here's just one of the things that peeves me, using a typical kde-menu
example, but gnome does the same thing: if I want to start kwrite I
don't want to be staring at a menu item that says "Advanced Editor" &
have to find out for myself that they mean kwrite & not emacs. Please,
can't menu items just say what they are?

-my2c
Craig



Re: custom kernel init probs

2002-03-10 Thread Florian Struck
On Monday 11 March 2002 01:33, Florian Struck wrote:

-snip-

> If anyone have sugestions tell me. Im gonna try more and surely, once its
> done, im gonna be damn proud of my first custom kernel LOL
> Flo

-snip-

YEEHAA! do i have to say anything more? =)

Ok i did the whole thing again and it looks like i earlyer phucked up some 
binary support or whatever (dont ask me for details ... =) )
anyway it works now and im happy damn tired though (04:05 CET)
Thanks for all sugestions im up and humming =)
wow a "depmod -a" never went that fast LOL
Cheers
Flo



Re: DNS Not Working *Again*

2002-03-10 Thread John Shepherd
Thanks, Michael.

You were exactly right:  the routing table was
incorrect.  With great thanks to the folks at
#debian on irc.debian.org (in particular
"eye69,"sir99," and 'neil_") I learned that diald
configuration during the woody upgrade added some
unneeded entries to the routing table.  Most
notably, there were entries for "tap0" that were
unwanted.  I never did find out what "tap0" was
about, but I did get everything setup properly.

Thanks again to everyone involved.


peace,
John
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> 
> If the connection is established but you
> can't ping anything, that
> suggests that your routing table isn't set up
> properly. See the defaultroute
> option in the pppd manpage, and make sure that
> it's an option to pppd, either
> in the script you're using, or in the
> /etc/ppp/options file. 
> 
> Confirm that your routing is set up
> properly using the route command.
> 
> route -n or
> netstat -nr
> 
> Mike
> 
> On 09/03/02 John Shepherd did speaketh:
> 
> > Hi,
> > 
> >I had a problem earlier this week in
> which
> > I could set up a PPP connection, but it
> wasn't
> > working properly.  I fixed it by
> re-installing
> > debian and changing some answers to questions
> > during the configuration.  I think the thing
> that
> > did it was that I had previously specified my
> own
> > local ip number as a gateway the firsttime
> and I
> > put no gateway the second time.
> >In addition to the DNS problem, I was
> > unable to get an Xserver to start.  It was
> > suggested that I move from potato to woody. 
> I
> > did that, and the X server starts now.  But,
> > somewhere in that process my PPP connection
> got
> > messed up.  I can dial and establish a PPP
> > connection, but I can't ping anything, not
> even
> > by ip number.
> >I'm posting from another machine right
> > now, so i don't have examplesof anything to
> > include, but I'll try to copysome things
> tofloppy
> > so I can post them next time.
> > 
> > Any suggestions are appreciated.
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > John 
> > 
> >
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Re: cdrtools xcdroast

2002-03-10 Thread Greg C. Madden
On Sat, 2002-03-02 at 20:51, nate wrote:
> 
> > The cdrecord package is compiled for the 2.4 kernel. In order to
> > use Xcdroast one needs to do 'apt-get build-dep && apt-get source
> > -b
> > cdrecord' This is not a big deal, the first time, but afaik the
> > default kernel (disk 1 anyway) is 2.2.xx. Minor rant :)
> 
> in testing or unstable? in testing last time i tried it worked
> fine on 2.2.19(i dont use 2.4 anywhere). Though all my
> CDRs are SCSI.  it's been a few weeks since i burned a
> CD.
> 
> luckily i won't have to burn as much now that i have
> a likko electronics vdr2100 ! woohoo. real-time VCD creation
> without a computer.
> 
> nate

This was on a Woody box, I use kernel 2.2.20. I installed xcdroast
+mkisofs+cdrecord. During the install is when the message is posted
about kernel version with the info on how to fix it for 2.2 kernels. My
problem was before I figured out I had to put the 2.2 versions of these
packages on 'hold' each 'upgrade' would replace them with the 2.4
versions.
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Re: Adding /dev/hdXX nodes

2002-03-10 Thread Christopher S. Swingley
Jerome,

> > The kernel detects and identifies the geometry on the drives 
> > (hda, c, e, g, i, k, m, o, q, s), but the device nodes in
> > /dev only go up to hdh.

> Hi Chris, I think you can make the devices you need with mknod.
> Another alternative is to mount devfs and use devfs naming conventions
> to access the drives.

Thanks.  I've used mknod before, but to use it here I'd need to know
what the major and minor numbers are supposed to be.  The numbering
scheme doesn't follow a pattern that is immediately obvious to me.
I wound up using devfs (as you suggested).  It worked really well,
but I'd still like to know if there's a Debian way to add more drive
devices.

Thanks,

Chris
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Re: Samba and CUPS

2002-03-10 Thread Eric-Olivier Lamey
On Sun, Mar 10, 2002 at 02:21, Bill Wohler wrote:
>   My Win2k clients could see the new printer during the create printer
>   phase. However, I'm getting the message "Access denied, unable to
>   connect." Some messages from a Google search said that one can still
>   print, but that's not the case here.
> 
>   On the Debian side, I see the following error in
>   /var/log/samba/log.smbd:
> 
> printing/print_cups.c:cups_job_submit(658)
> Unable to print file to lp - client-error-document-format-not-supported
> 
>   Ideas?

  What kind of error does cups logs in /var/log/cups/error_log, if any ?
  Chances are that you will see something like:
print_job: Unsupported format 'application/octet-stream'!
  If this is the case, you'll have to edit /etc/cups/mime.convs and
  /etc/cups/mime.types and comment out the lines related to
  application/octet-stream.

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CUPS auto-banner

2002-03-10 Thread David Wright


Forgive my density, but the CUPS manuals are singularly impenetratable.

How to I confiure a CUPS server to automatically print a banner with 
every job?


Just to be clear, I don't want my users to have to type
  -o job-sheets=standard
each time.



Re: can't start x after woody upgrade

2002-03-10 Thread Seneca Cunningham
Chris Jenks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I know that this has been covered recently, or at least I think it
has, but
> I was not able to find it in the archives after 2 hours of reading
> (probably just couldn't find the right thread). I went from 2.2r3 to
2.2r5
> to Woody, and installed Xfree86 4.1.0-14 after going to Woody (no x
before
> that). startx doesn't seem to be on the box. I'm thinking that I'm
missing
> a package, but if I am, I don't know what one. A pointer to either
would be
> appreciated if someone knows what I'm missing. Here is what I have:

[a long listing missing the desired package]

> I did take things like x-chat and man page entries out of this list.

At the bottom of http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages, under the
heading "Search the contents of packages", you can put in a file name
and be told what package it belongs to.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dpkg -S startx
xbase-clients: /usr/X11R6/man/man1/startx.1x.gz
xbase-clients: /usr/X11R6/bin/startx
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$

Seneca
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: custom kernel init probs

2002-03-10 Thread Gary Turner
On Sun, 10 Mar 2002 19:45:28 +0100, Florian Struck wrote:

>Hi i have just built my own (first ever =) ) kernel (2.4.18).
>Well after about 4 tries (changing adding supports in menuconfig)
>i got him boot and it all looks very promising until the point where it inits 
>runlevel2 first there is a weird 4 line message about hotplug some comands 
>not found (hotplug support is activated in kernel) but it continues loading 
>untill it bails out at klogd with following msg:
>
>Mar 10 19:08:00 desktop kernel: usb.c: kusbd: /sbin/hotplug add 3
>Mar 10 19:09:40 desktop init: Id "1" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 
>minutes
>Mar 10 19:09:40 desktop init: Id "2" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 
>minutes


I have no idea where I heard it, and don't know if it applies here, but:

This may be a gdm (gnome display manager?)/gnome issue.

If you get no answer here, that may give you another enquiry path.
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Re: How to share cable connection ?

2002-03-10 Thread Raghavendra Bhat
Thomas Graham posts :

> is it possible to use DHCP server to share cable connection to LAN ?

You need  not use a DHCP server  per se because usually  the cable modem
has a DHCP server embedded in.   My Motorola SB 3100 modem can assign IP
addresses dynamically.  Read on the relevant info:



The SURFboard cable modem can be used  as a gateway to the Internet by a
maximum of 32 users on a  Local Area Network (LAN). When the Cable Modem
is disconnected from  the Internet, users on the  LAN can be dynamically
assigned IP Addresses  by the Cable Modem DHCP  Server.  These addresses
are assigned from  an address pool which begins  with 192.168.100.11 and
ends  with 192.168.100.42.  Statically assigned  IP addresses  for other
devices on the LAN should be chosen from outside of this range. 



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can't start x after woody upgrade

2002-03-10 Thread Chris Jenks
I know that this has been covered recently, or at least I think it has, but 
I was not able to find it in the archives after 2 hours of reading 
(probably just couldn't find the right thread). I went from 2.2r3 to 2.2r5 
to Woody, and installed Xfree86 4.1.0-14 after going to Woody (no x before 
that). startx doesn't seem to be on the box. I'm thinking that I'm missing 
a package, but if I am, I don't know what one. A pointer to either would be 
appreciated if someone knows what I'm missing. Here is what I have:



Storm:/home/rattis# dpkg -l | grep -i x
ii  console-common 0.7.13 Basic infrastructure for text console config
ii  console-tools  0.2.3-23.3 Linux console and font utilities.
ii  console-tools- 0.2.3-23.3 Shared libraries for Linux console and font
ii  kernel-image-2 2.2.19-4potato Linux kernel binary image for version 2.2.19
ii  libnewt0   0.50.17-9  Not Erik's Windowing Toolkit - text mode win
ii  libxaw64.1.0-14   X Athena widget set library (version 6)
ii  libxaw74.1.0-14   X Athena widget set library
ii  libxml11.8.17-2   GNOME XML library
ii  libxml22.4.16-2   GNOME XML library
ii  nvidia-glx-src 1.0.2313-2 NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x driver
ii  xchat-common   1.8.7-2Common files for X-Chat
ii  xfonts-100dpi  4.1.0-14   100 dpi fonts for X
ii  xfonts-75dpi   4.1.0-14   75 dpi fonts for X
ii  xfonts-base4.1.0-14   standard fonts for X
ii  xfree86-common 4.1.0-14   X Window System (XFree86) infrastructure
ii  xlib6g 4.1.0-14   pseudopackage providing X libraries
ii  xlibmesa3  4.1.0-14   XFree86 version of Mesa 3D graphics library
ii  xlibs  4.1.0-14   X Window System client libraries
ii  xserver-common 4.1.0-14   files and utilities common to all X servers
ii  xserver-xfree8 4.1.0-14   the XFree86 X server
ii  xutils 4.1.0-14   X Window System utility programs
ii  xviddetect 0.3-4  XFree86 installation helper
Storm:/home/rattis#

I did take things like x-chat and man page entries out of this list.

Thanks
Chris



Re: User name in email address

2002-03-10 Thread Oki DZ

Glyn Millington wrote:

No problem, just that

a. I couldn't for the life of me remember where it is set.


It's in /etc/passwd.


b. I don't like it when the system does things I can't track down
   somehow. 


You can change the entries in /etc/passwd using chfn.

Oki




Re: "dpkg -l" redirection

2002-03-10 Thread Jim Woodruff
On 10 Mar 2002, Oliver Elphick wrote:

> On Sun, 2002-03-10 at 19:26, Jim Woodruff wrote:
> > Does anyone have a way of redirecting the standard output of "dpkg -l" to
> > a file without the truncation that takes place?
>
> $ COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l > file
>

Thank you,

Jim

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Re: Truly stupid menu seting

2002-03-10 Thread stan
On Sun, Mar 10, 2002 at 05:34:04PM -0600, Dale Hair wrote:
> You can configure gdm to allow root login.
> As user open xterm
> su
> root password
> gdmconfig
> 
> Under options choose Expert and allow root to login with gdm. 
> 
Thanks for the tip.

However that does not explain the stupidity of puting somehting in a menu
that wont ever work.

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Re: custom kernel init probs

2002-03-10 Thread Florian Struck
On Monday 11 March 2002 00:15, Florian Struck wrote:
> Hi Thanx i just checked i have hotplug installed now  iadded hotplug-utils
> (which i dint have) im gonna try it out note that i have a fully funktional
> kernal-image 2.4.18 for k7 prcompiled from the mirror wich didnt complain
> about those thats what surprises me.
> Anyhow ill try and we will see .

-snip-

Ok it didnt make a difference still the same thing i dont think its about 
hotplug (cause it just skips it if it doesnt work) it happens when starting 
klogd

starting klogd 
...
...
Mar 10 19:09:40 desktop init: Id "4" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 
minutes
Mar 10 19:09:40 desktop init: Id "6" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 
minutes
Mar 10 19:09:40 desktop init: no more processes left in this runlevel
...

notice the "no more processes in this runlevel" thats what i dont understand
the kernel seems not to find several progs that i definately have installed...
at some point it also complains about whatever bad interpreter ... perl ... 
not found wich is nonsense i have installed all necesary stuff.
If anyone have sugestions tell me. Im gonna try more and surely, once its 
done, im gonna be damn proud of my first custom kernel LOL
Flo 



Re: another potato/woody X3/4 question

2002-03-10 Thread Jerome Acks Jr
On Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 10:24:01AM -0600, Remy Indebetouw wrote:
> I've got a potato/woody pinned hybrid, and my main reluctance to just
> dist-upgrade is related to this:
> 
> I appear to have both Xfree 3 and 4 (see apt-cache output below; I
> didn't purposefully do this, parts of X4 came along with libc6-dev, I
> think.  BTW thanks to those who convinced me that apt would not lead me
> astray in a hydrid system.  deb packaging rocks once again).

In woody, both XFree86 3 & 4 are include since some hardware supported
in 3 is not supported in 4. 
> 
> I used a patched Mach64 server on my Dell I7K laptop (ATI Rage), so what
> I'd like to do is configure and try X4 without trashing X3, or at least
> know how to get back, so
> -how do i tell if I have all parts of X4 (I thought this was x-window-system)
> -how would i get back if it doesn't work?  restore the
> old /etc/X11/XF86Config and what else??
> -once X4 works can i just purge task-x-window-system to wipe X3?
> 
Config file for X3 is XF86Config and for X4 it's XF86Config-4.

To try X4:
dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86

/etc/X11/XF86Config will still be there unchanged.

If you don't like the results, I think all you need to do is change
symlink /etc/X11/X to point to old X3 server you want to use and
restart X. Or just rerun dpkg-reconfigure [xserver-you-want-to-use].

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Re: copying/creating VCDs

2002-03-10 Thread csj
On Mon, 11 Mar 2002 02:21:54 +1100
Davor Balder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Is there an easy way to create copies of VCDs? I know there is a
> special format (two tracks according to specifications)... I guess I
> could just simply copy the actual mpeg file from the CD... But, is
> there an easy way to actually copy the VCD using the standard tools
> like cdrecord and the like? I hate using windows for this!!

Yes, use cdrdao. The following should do the trick (unless the VCD
itself is damaged):

cdrdao read-cd --paranoia-mode 2 --read-raw --driver \
 generic-mmc --device 0,0,0 data.toc

There are other tools: readvcd (which does just that) and vcdimager (a
vcd mastering tool) and vcdgear (a binary-only windo$ tool with *n*x
ports).



Re: Still looking to replace Eudora

2002-03-10 Thread csj
On Sat, 9 Mar 2002 23:28:31 -0800
"Karsten M. Self"  wrote:

>  In general, I find the MDI paradigm to be frustrating to the extreme,
>  and the alternatives provided by GNU/Linux are far superior (IMVAO).

Then why do you continuously plug galeon? ;-)



Re: dh-client setup problems

2002-03-10 Thread Jeff
Stephen Nosal, 2002-Mar-10 15:51 -0500:
> Well, folks, I'm still having no success here. Here's an excerpt from my 
> syslog files:
> 
> Mar 10 15:24:38 lambic dhclient-2.2.x: send_packet: Network is down
> Mar 10 15:24:53 lambic dhclient-2.2.x: DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 
> 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 14
> Mar 10 15:24:53 lambic dhclient-2.2.x: send_packet: Network is down
> Mar 10 15:25:07 lambic dhclient-2.2.x: DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 
> 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 11
> Mar 10 15:25:07 lambic dhclient-2.2.x: send_packet: Network is down
> Mar 10 15:25:18 lambic dhclient-2.2.x: DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 
> 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 2
> Mar 10 15:25:18 lambic dhclient-2.2.x: send_packet: Network is down
> Mar 10 15:25:20 lambic dhclient-2.2.x: No DHCPOFFERS received.
> Mar 10 15:25:20 lambic dhclient-2.2.x: No working leases in persistent 
> database.
> Mar 10 15:25:20 lambic dhclient-2.2.x: execve (/etc/dhclient-script, ...): No 
> such file or directory
> Mar 10 15:25:20 lambic dhclient-2.2.x: exiting.
> Mar 10 15:25:20 lambic dhclient-2.2.x: Sleeping.
> 
> As far as I know, roadrunner in NYC requires no host name - the modem 
> validates the mac address of the ethernet card. It works fine when I boot to 
> NT..., so I'm pretty confident the network is good, but I'm really at a loss 
> right now...
> 
> Thoughts?

Can you confirm that the DHCPDISCOVER packets really are going
out?  My thought is that the NIC driver isn't working properly.

jc

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Re: Truly stupid menu seting

2002-03-10 Thread Bjarne S . Næss
> also, xhost + is probably not the safest thing to do if untrusted machines
> have network access to your machine

xhost +localhost is better.

But if xforwarding is enabled in ssh I prefer ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Takes care of the 'long' line export DISPLAY=localhost:0  =)

Bjarne



Re: DVD players under Linux (was: Re: 2.4 kernels with potato and Movie players)

2002-03-10 Thread Rogério Brito
On Mar 10 2002, user list wrote:
> Thanks for responding to my question.
(...)
> I have upgraded my box to woody (testing) and I've installed mplayer.

That's good. Did you also use xine for watching the movies?
I'd recommend that you install xine-dvdnav as it will provide
you dvd menus.

Try also to get libdvdcss1 from Videolan's site
, since Debian cannot distribute it.
It will help you if you have CSS encrypted DVDs.

> I don't remember a liblame0.

Indeed, that's because liblame0 is not a part of Debian. You
would have to get the sources from the lame project
.

Unfortunately, the current stable version of lame (3.91)
doesn't have a nice division of packages and lacks liblame0.
After the 3.91 release, I joined the project as the Debian
packaging developer and I already included (what I feel is) a
nicer division of the package, including liblame0 and
liblame0-dev (needed for compiling mplayer/mencoder with MP3
support).

But the lack of it isn't going to cause your computer to be
slow. It will only mean that won't be able to create AVI files
with MP3-encoded tracks, as far as I know.

> I ask because the movies are pretty slow. Here are the specs. of my
> box
> 
> 600 MHz Athlon
> 756 M CRAM
> Matrox Millennium G200 (16 MB)
> 12x DVD-CD rom drive
> 
> 30GB Hard disk

No, it shouldn't be slow. In fact, it should be faster than my
computer, I think. Mine is a 600MHz Duron, with 128MB of RAM
and a Matrox G400 (16MB also).

> Two general questions:
> 
> 1. If this is a fast enough box, what are the switches that I need
> to improve speed.  I can't (or don't know how to) access DGA. Is
> this important?

Well, first of all, install xine on your machine. It is easier
to see if everything is working correctly with xine than with
mplayer. After you make it work with xine, then use mplayer if
you want to.

Some general guidelines:

1 - are you running XFree86 4 with XV support? This is
probably the most critical part of the system. X 4 is
much, much faster than X 3. See if XV is enabled (in X4)
with xdpyinfo and xvinfo.

2 - are your drives working with DMA enabled?

3 - what are the results of xine-check? They will almost
always tell you what are potential bottleneck points in
your system. To avoid it complaining, install libxine-dev.

> 2. If the box is not fast enough what is (are) the critical piece(s)
> to upgrade?

There shouldn't be any need to upgrade your machine, I think.

> Thanks again for the response.


Hope this helps, Roger...

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Re: files disappearing??? apt-get fun?

2002-03-10 Thread Jeff
Erik Steffl, 2002-Mar-10 04:17 -0800:
>   not sure how it happened but this is second time that I have found out
> files missing on my computer, I think it's after upgrade but can't be
> sure.
> 
>   some time ago I suddenly found out that xvncviewer file is no longer
> on my computer, it was still listed in locate output and xvncviewer
> package was installed but the program itself was gone. reinstalling
> xvncviewer worked, I didn't find anything else missing.
> 
>   today same thing happened with /usr/X11R6/bin/fvwm* files (they were
> in locate output, the package was listed as installed but the files were
> not there!)
> 
>   not sure if there's anything else missing - is there any way to easily
> check the integrity of debian system (whether the files that system
> thinks are installed are really there)?
> 
>   I used apt-get and aptitude (didn't find similar bug for apt, aptitude
> or dpkg).
> 
>   any ideas? TIA
> 
>   erik

I think the first thing you should do is check the integrity of
you HDD.  Also, verify that you BIOS supports the size of your
HDD, although Linux can usually get around this, I've had
problems like yours in that situation.

jc

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Acroread not displaying menu text

2002-03-10 Thread james
Hello

I am experiencing a problem with acroread (Acobat reader)v.4.05-5 on
what I believe is a typical Debian GNU/Linux 3 (Woody/Testing) system
running on a Compaq Professional Workstation 5000 (P-Pro SMP).

Acroread does not display any menu text at all (just gray line boxes
where the text should be) and when it is started from an xterm the
following error message is displayed:

Warning: charset of fontList (ISO10646-1) does not match locale
(ISO8859-1).

I suspect this has come about because recently I had to change the
user and root locales to ISO8859-1 (using dpkg-reconfigure locales)to
enable recent releases of multi-gnome-terminal (currently v1.3.13) to
run on my system.

Reluctantly (because ISO8859-1 seems to be ideal for a UK based Debian
box) I tried to set both the user and root locales to ISO10646-1. But
this option is not available using dpkg-reconfigure locales. My system
does have the following relevant looking file:

/usr/share/i18n/charmaps/ISO_10646.gz

But so far I have been unable to discover if it can be used to change
the locales.

I would be grateful for any suggestions on how to sort this problem
out, since I need to use acroread to read work related docs.

James

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Re: Incorporating testing or unstable

2002-03-10 Thread Craig Sampson
Thanks Tim.


On Fri, 8 Mar 2002 22:21:19 -0600, Timothy R. Butler wrote:

>Hi,
>> Can anyone tell me the process by which I might incorporate
>[...]
>> specific- instances of testing packages but on the whole 
remain
>> at stable.
>
>  First, create an /etc/apt/preferences file, and put 
something like this in 
>it:
>
>#--
>Package: *
>Pin: release a=stable
>Pin-Priority: 900
>
>Package: *
>Pin: release o=testing
>Pin-Priority: 500
>
>Package: *
>Pin: release o=unstable
>Pin-Priority: 1
>#--
>
>
>  Now, once you put that in there, add a testing and/or 
unstable mirror to 
>your sources.list file. By doing this, apt-get should default 
to stable, then 
>to testing, then finally to unstable.
>  To grab something from a specific version - say unstable - 
you can do this:
>
>  apt-get install -t unstable [packagename]
> 
>  -Tim


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Re: Installing from source

2002-03-10 Thread Jeff
William P Martin, 2002-Mar-10 02:01 -0800:
> Hi all,
> 
> I am currently building a server based on potato. The three servers I am
> going to be running on the box with be bind,apache, and sendmail. I am doing
> this for experience and as a project given to me by the admins at work so
> that I can learn, screw up and ask them questions.
> Their recommendation is to build all of these from source so I have
> familiarity with where the tarballs put the files by default and getting
> experience setting them up by hand. My question is do I need to do anything
> special for these three. I have installed them from deb's with very little
> difficulty. But is there any prereq's that I may need that aren't obvious.
> And could I install the newest versions of these on a potato box?
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Pat

Pat,

Isn't the point of this exercise to learn by doing?  I have to
admit that the most prominent lessons I've learned were from the
mistakes I've made, and were set in stone through the work it
took to recover from the mistake.  

Well, I'll throw you a small bone in spite of this, but this
bone is so small you may not take notice:

Read all the documentation on each package thoroughly before
beginning.  Read the release notes, changelongs, installation
docs, and take note of all the dependancies and make sure all the
dependancies are satisfied prior to starting.  I believe the
acronym goes like RTFM.  :-)

Oh, and just to let you know, another reason your colleagues want
you to build from source is that the .deb versions do most of the
configuration for you.  :-D  Those guys are so sneaky!

jc

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Re: (potato) dselect mess after upgrade to XFree 4.1.0 - how to get out of but keep XFree4.1!

2002-03-10 Thread Jerome Acks Jr
On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 03:10:31PM +, Martin Edward John Waller wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I upgraded to XFree 4.1 to support my Matrox
> Millenium G450.
> I had loads of dependency problems but eventually
> got there.
> 
> It appears hwoever I still have dependency
> problems and have got my system in a bit of a
> state.

Hi Martin,

Some of the packages listed for removal (like xbase-clients and xdm) 
are contained in subdirectories of http://people.debian.org/~cpbotha/.
Make sure you have all the packages from C P Botha installed and then
recheck to see if you still have all these dependency problems. 

> 
> Here's the output of dselect if I don't change any
> requested packages:
> 
> U*- Std develg++  The GNU C++
> compiler.
> U*- Std develg++-2.95
> U*- Std develgcc-2.95
> U*- Std devellibstdc++2.1 The GNU stdc++
> library (development files)
> U*- Opt x11  xbase-client miscellaneous X
> clients
[snip]
> **- Opt x11  xdm  X display manager
> **- Xtr devellibncurses4- Developer's
> libraries and docs for ncurses
[snip]
> 
> The gcc compiler installed is
> Reading specs from
> /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-linux/2.95.2/specs
> gcc version 2.95.2 2220 (Debian GNU/Linux)
> 
> and it works (rebuilt the kernel with it OK) but I
> can't install g++ and am in a knot.
> 
> What's the best way out without removing
> XFree4.1?  Upgrade to testing?  I'd prefer
> something stable-ish...

I've used woody/testing for over a year and find it very stable.
Sometimes a broken package gets installed, but this has become much
less frequent. Usually, work arounds for broken packages are posted to
this list fairly quickly. Also, if you don't delete downloaded packages
after installation, you'll find the prior version in apt's cache and
can reinstall prior version with dpkg.

Hope this helps.
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Re: Boottime keymap

2002-03-10 Thread Daniel Toffetti
On Sunday 10 March 2002 18:41, Rick Macdonald wrote:
> > > I've renamed boottime.kmap.gz in /etc/console to
> > > boottime.kmap.gz.bak and copied es.kmap.gz in
> > > /usr/share/keymaps/i386/qwerty to /etc/console/boottime.kmap.gz,
> > > so that the spanish keymap loads every time I boot.
> > > Is this the right way to do it ?
> >
> > I think the "right" way is:
> > # dpkg-reconfigure console-common
> >
>
> ...RickM...

Ooops... I guess you pressed the Send button too early ?

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Re: Truly stupid menu seting

2002-03-10 Thread Dale Hair
You can configure gdm to allow root login.
As user open xterm
su
root password
gdmconfig

Under options choose Expert and allow root to login with gdm. 

On Mon, 2002-03-11 at 00:08, Shri Shrikumar wrote:
> 
> >ON the default woody install, one of the Gnome menu picks is :IDE setup
> >tool". Trying to run this as a suer results in the message that you need
> >to be root to run it. Cool.
> >
> >Trying to login as root using gdm is not allowed.
> >
> >Can anyone explain what the **k somebody was thinking when tehy set
> >this up!
> 
> I think other "more user friendly" distros allow root logins and therefore
> comes in handy for them.
> 
> I only remember that this as possible with RH6 (which I tried at least two
> years ago) so I may be remembering wrong
> 
> also, xhost + is probably not the safest thing to do if untrusted machines
> have network access to your machine
> 
> 
> Shri
> 
> 
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Re: Compiling from source

2002-03-10 Thread Corrin Lakeland
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> [Compile from source]
>
> Question: does this really improve performance?

A little. How much depends on the package.  Remember that maintainers will 
compile with -O2 and other optimisations, so all you gain is arch specific 
optimisations.  For some applications these might be as much as 5%.

The real benefit is you can pass configure extra options without losing the 
advantages of a centralised software database.

> If compiling locally does improve
> performance, is there a way I can use these src urls to do it within
> Debian?

Yes, but it isn't as easy as portage.  You can use the program turtle (the 
Hurd autobuilder) to automatically download and recompile software you want.  
It will effectivly create a local mirror of a remote repository where 
everything in that mirror is compiled locally. It wouldn't be hard to script 
it to do the equivilant of a dist-upgrade each night.

You'll run into a few hassles when installing new software since your 
sources.list will point to file://.

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Re: copying/creating VCDs

2002-03-10 Thread Rogério Brito
On Mar 11 2002, Davor Balder wrote:
> Is there an easy way to create copies of VCDs (I just got one from a
> friend)?

I have never copied VCDs, but does the program readcd from the
cdrecord package help here?


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Re: dselect problems too much of what I don't want, nothing of what I need

2002-03-10 Thread Joey Hess
Craig Sampson wrote:
> At this point, what I really need to do is to somehow rebuild 
> the dselect database so that it can start afresh (if you like) 
> with only those packages that are actually installed.

perl -i.bak -pe 'if (/^Status: [^\s]+ ([^\s]+) ([^\s]+)/) { $_="Status: ".($2 
eq "installed" ? "install" : "purge")." $1 $2\n"}' /var/lib/dpkg/status

Not particulary tested, but it keeps a status.bak if it should go
horribly wrong.

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Re: placing a hold on package

2002-03-10 Thread René Seindal
On Sun, Mar 10, 2002 at 03:55:06PM -0700, Faruk Grozdanic wrote:
> 
> I do not wish the kernel-image package installed since I am already 
> running kernel 2.4.17 (downloaded kernel-source package & compiled it). 
> Reading the documentation & man pages, it seems that a hold needs to be 
> placed on the specified package for this to happen. I would like apt-get 
>  to permanently ignore this package. Can someone please tell me how to 
> do this or at least point me in the right direction. I do not know if 

Hi,

The command

echo " hold" | dpkg --set-selections

should put the package on hold for you.

René Seindal. 



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Re: Adding /dev/hdXX nodes

2002-03-10 Thread Jerome Acks Jr
On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 12:00:19PM -0900, Christopher S. Swingley wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> I'm trying to set up a software RAID-5 machine with 9 IDE drives (1
> for the OS, 8 for a RAID-5 array) and a CD-ROM drive using Promise
> IDE controllers.  The kernel detects and identifies the geometry on
> the drives (hda, c, e, g, i, k, m, o, q, s), but the device nodes in
> /dev only go up to hdh.  I looked in the /dev/MAKEDEV script, but it's
> not clear to me what I'm supposed to do in order to get new devices,
> and it looks like even if I could figure out how to add more than 'h'
> drives, this script only goes up to 'l' anyway.
> 
> Any suggestions?
> 
Hi Chris, I think you can make the devices you need with mknod.
Another alternative is to mount devfs and use devfs naming conventions
to access the drives.

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Re: custom kernel init probs

2002-03-10 Thread Florian Struck
Hi Thanx i just checked i have hotplug installed now  iadded hotplug-utils 
(which i dint have) im gonna try it out note that i have a fully funktional 
kernal-image 2.4.18 for k7 prcompiled from the mirror wich didnt complain 
about those thats what surprises me.
Anyhow ill try and we will see .
Thanx for help
Flo

On Sunday 10 March 2002 23:51, Faheem Mitha wrote:
> On 10 Mar 2002, Florian Struck wrote:
> > Hi i have just built my own (first ever =) ) kernel (2.4.18).
> > Well after about 4 tries (changing adding supports in menuconfig)
> > i got him boot and it all looks very promising until the point where it
> > inits runlevel2 first there is a weird 4 line message about hotplug some
> > comands not found (hotplug support is activated in kernel) but it
> > continues loading untill it bails out at klogd with following msg:
>
> If I remember correctly (someone correct me if I am wrong) you need the
> package hotplug (this contains /sbin/hotplug). See the package man page at
> http://packages.debian.org/testing/admin/hotplug.html . I would also
> recommend the packages hotplug-utils and usb-utils.
>
> Also check out http://www.linux-usb.org/FAQ.html See particularly the
> section on hotplugging, http://www.linux-usb.org/FAQ.html#gs4
>
> At least for me, this worked flawlessly right out of the box with
> Woody/2.4.17, though it does seem to be in a very early stage of
> development. I just installed the Debian packages hotplug-utils and
> hotplug. Note that I'm not using devfs.
>
> Here is a tip. When you see a command not found, go to the packages search
> page (packages.debian.org) and go to the "Search the contents of packages"
> section near the bottom, and input the command you are looking for. In
> this case, it would have led you straight to the package hotplug. It is
> usually also simply worth trying "apt-cache search whatever", which only
> searches package descriptions. In this case that would have worked too.
>
>Faheem.



placing a hold on package

2002-03-10 Thread Faruk Grozdanic

Hello,

I use apt-get dist-upgrade to update the Debian packages on my linux 
box. Today apt-get spewed these chunks:


bash#apt-get dist-upgrade
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Calculating Upgrade... Done
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  ash cramfsprogs initrd-tools kernel-image-2.4.17-686
41 packages upgraded, 4 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0  not upgraded.
Need to get 37.6MB of archives. After unpacking 26.8MB will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n]

I do not wish the kernel-image package installed since I am already 
running kernel 2.4.17 (downloaded kernel-source package & compiled it). 
Reading the documentation & man pages, it seems that a hold needs to be 
placed on the specified package for this to happen. I would like apt-get 
 to permanently ignore this package. Can someone please tell me how to 
do this or at least point me in the right direction. I do not know if 
the following output mignt help or not.


bash# dpkg -l | grep kernel
ii  kernel-source- 2.4.17-1   Linux kernel source for version 2.4.17
ii  pciutils   2.1.9-3Linux PCI Utilities (for 2.[1234].x 
kernels)
ii  pcmcia-modules 3.1.33-1k1 PCMCIA Modules for Linux (kernel 
2.4.17-686)


Thank youu

Faruk



Re: Printing: CUPS, foomatic, hpoj and HP OfficeJet G85

2002-03-10 Thread Bill Wohler
Dimitri Maziuk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >   Question 2: How can I configure CUPS to use this driver?
> 
> Drop the ppd into /etc/cups/ppd/your_printer_name.ppd

  I like that place better than /usr/share/cups/model, but
  unfortunately, cups didn't find it there. Thanks for the suggestion
  though.

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Re: custom kernel init probs

2002-03-10 Thread Faheem Mitha


On 10 Mar 2002, Florian Struck wrote:

> Hi i have just built my own (first ever =) ) kernel (2.4.18).
> Well after about 4 tries (changing adding supports in menuconfig)
> i got him boot and it all looks very promising until the point where it inits
> runlevel2 first there is a weird 4 line message about hotplug some comands
> not found (hotplug support is activated in kernel) but it continues loading
> untill it bails out at klogd with following msg:

If I remember correctly (someone correct me if I am wrong) you need the
package hotplug (this contains /sbin/hotplug). See the package man page at
http://packages.debian.org/testing/admin/hotplug.html . I would also
recommend the packages hotplug-utils and usb-utils.

Also check out http://www.linux-usb.org/FAQ.html See particularly the
section on hotplugging, http://www.linux-usb.org/FAQ.html#gs4

At least for me, this worked flawlessly right out of the box with
Woody/2.4.17, though it does seem to be in a very early stage of
development. I just installed the Debian packages hotplug-utils and
hotplug. Note that I'm not using devfs.

Here is a tip. When you see a command not found, go to the packages search
page (packages.debian.org) and go to the "Search the contents of packages"
section near the bottom, and input the command you are looking for. In
this case, it would have led you straight to the package hotplug. It is
usually also simply worth trying "apt-cache search whatever", which only
searches package descriptions. In this case that would have worked too.

   Faheem.




Compiling from source

2002-03-10 Thread Patrick Kirk
Hi all,

I decide to try a new distro as the win2k partition of my machine was just 
sitting there.  I had read articles by Daniel Robbins and decided to try Gentoo 
on www.gentoo.com.  cfdisk and goodbye win2k...pity in a way because I still 
think its the best OS ever produced by M$.  anyway, back to Gentoo.

Its a very interesting distro.  It has 2 unusual features.  Firstly, everything 
is compiled from source.  In /etc/ there's a make.conf where you put such 
optimisations as you think will suit your system and then gcc, glibc, etc. are 
bootstrapped followed by the distro being installed.  For this, you do need a 
broadband connection IMO.

Question: does this really improve performance?  

The other interesting feature is a system called portage which works by having 
a software map on your hard disk that you browse and then install the ones you 
want.  It has pretend installs, etc.  Very much influenced by BSD as the name 
suggests.

Now, in my sources.list I saw src type urls that I deleted to make my apt-get 
up#dates that little bit faster. If compiling locally does improve performance, 
is there a way I can use these src urls to do it within Debian?

I should add that this is not intended to start a Debian vs. whatever debate - 
I'm genuinely curious as to the advantages or not of compiling locally and as 
to how to use those src urls.

thanks in advance,

Patrick

PS - off topic here but vim is not text wrapping within mutt.  sorry its all 
over the place - would someone using vim with mutt please be so kind as to send 
me the relevant line from .muttrc to get the tw correct.



Re: upgraded, now X isn't working

2002-03-10 Thread Shyamal Prasad
"timothy" == timothy bauscher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

timothy> I upgraded from the stable 2.2r5 to the latest unstable
timothy> version. This upgrade removed a lot of packages,
timothy> including gcj. And, for reasons unknown to me, I no
timothy> longer boot into a graphical login and can't startx. I
timothy> realize I am not providing very much material to work
timothy> with, but I would appreciate any suggestions.
timothy> (==timothy==)

Some more information would really help.

What happens when you type 'startx'?

Is xserver-common installed?

Is xserver-xfree86 installed (XFree86 4.x)? (is 4.x what you want?)

Is xserver- installed (XFree86 3.x)? (or you want 3.x)?

What does ' ls -l /etc/X11/X' point at?

Cheers!
Shyamal



Re: latest Nvidia drivers

2002-03-10 Thread Phillip Deackes
On Sun, 10 Mar 2002 13:53:01 -0800
Roy Pluschke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Has anybody else found that the latest Nvidia drivers "1.0-2802" don't
> work! I have a tnt2 running on a 2.4 kernel in "testing". 

No - they work fine here - Riva TNT2, Debian Unstable, kernel 2.4.18.

Did you install the Debian package and follow the instructions in
/usr/share/doc to build the nvidia-kernel and nvidia-glx packages? (As
opposed to the tar.gz package). I used the Debian packages and everyhting
worked as it should.

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Samba and CUPS

2002-03-10 Thread Bill Wohler
  This has been a painful day. I've got printing working nicely now.
  However, Samba is another story.

  My Win2k clients could see the new printer during the create printer
  phase. However, I'm getting the message "Access denied, unable to
  connect." Some messages from a Google search said that one can still
  print, but that's not the case here.

  On the Debian side, I see the following error in
  /var/log/samba/log.smbd:

printing/print_cups.c:cups_job_submit(658)
Unable to print file to lp - client-error-document-format-not-supported

  Ideas?

  The relevant portions of my smb.conf:

[global]
...
printcap name = cups
printing = cups

[printers]
comment = All Printers
path = /tmp
read only = No
create mask = 0666
printable = Yes
browseable = No

[lp]
comment = HP OfficeJet G85
path = /tmp
read only = No
create mask = 0700
guest ok = Yes
printable = Yes
printer name = lp
oplocks = No


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Re: Truly stupid menu seting

2002-03-10 Thread Shri Shrikumar

>ON the default woody install, one of the Gnome menu picks is :IDE setup
>tool". Trying to run this as a suer results in the message that you need
>to be root to run it. Cool.
>
>Trying to login as root using gdm is not allowed.
>
>Can anyone explain what the **k somebody was thinking when tehy set
>this up!

I think other "more user friendly" distros allow root logins and therefore
comes in handy for them.

I only remember that this as possible with RH6 (which I tried at least two
years ago) so I may be remembering wrong

also, xhost + is probably not the safest thing to do if untrusted machines
have network access to your machine


Shri



Re: Truly stupid menu seting

2002-03-10 Thread Sebastiaan
High,

On Sun, 10 Mar 2002, stan wrote:

> ON the default woody install, one of the Gnome menu picks is :IDE setup
> tool". Trying to run this as a suer results in the message that you need
> to be root to run it. Cool.
>
> Trying to login as root using gdm is not allowed.
>
> Can anyone explain what the **k somebody was thinking when tehy set
> this up!
>

They were thinking very well: a normal user should not have access to
hardware drivers and running X as root is very NOT recommended. The path
you have to follow is very simple. Just as every other root task you
should log in as an ordinary user, open an xterm and su to root. Then
perform your tasks and leave the superuser environment. It's really the
safest.

For X apps you have to allow root to open windows, so:
- log in as a normal user
- open an xterm
$ xhost +   (gives other users/hosts authorization to open windows)
$ su

# myidesetuptool
# exit
$ xhost -

That's all. Why this is in the menu I have no idea: I do not use gnome.
Just figure out what the application is and do as described above.

Greetz,
Sebastiaan




latest Nvidia drivers

2002-03-10 Thread Roy Pluschke
Has anybody else found that the latest Nvidia drivers "1.0-2802" don't
work! I have a tnt2 running on a 2.4 kernel in "testing". 



Re: Boottime keymap

2002-03-10 Thread Rick Macdonald
On Fri, 8 Mar 2002, Timo Benk wrote:

> On Fri, Mar 08, 2002 at 12:10:06PM -0300, Daniel Toffetti wrote:
> > Hi !
> > 
> > I've renamed boottime.kmap.gz in /etc/console to boottime.kmap.gz.bak 
> > and copied es.kmap.gz in /usr/share/keymaps/i386/qwerty to 
> > /etc/console/boottime.kmap.gz, so that the spanish keymap loads every 
> > time I boot.
> > Is this the right way to do it ?
> I think the "right" way is:
> # dpkg-reconfigure console-common
> 
> -timo
> 
> -- 
> gpg key fingerprint = 6832 C8EC D823 4059 0CD1  6FBF 9383 7DBD 109E 98DC
> 
> 

...RickM...



Re: dh-client setup problems

2002-03-10 Thread Stephen Nosal
Well, folks, I'm still having no success here. Here's an excerpt from my syslog 
files:

Mar 10 15:24:38 lambic dhclient-2.2.x: send_packet: Network is down
Mar 10 15:24:53 lambic dhclient-2.2.x: DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 
port 67 interval 14
Mar 10 15:24:53 lambic dhclient-2.2.x: send_packet: Network is down
Mar 10 15:25:07 lambic dhclient-2.2.x: DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 
port 67 interval 11
Mar 10 15:25:07 lambic dhclient-2.2.x: send_packet: Network is down
Mar 10 15:25:18 lambic dhclient-2.2.x: DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 
port 67 interval 2
Mar 10 15:25:18 lambic dhclient-2.2.x: send_packet: Network is down
Mar 10 15:25:20 lambic dhclient-2.2.x: No DHCPOFFERS received.
Mar 10 15:25:20 lambic dhclient-2.2.x: No working leases in persistent database.
Mar 10 15:25:20 lambic dhclient-2.2.x: execve (/etc/dhclient-script, ...): No 
such file or directory
Mar 10 15:25:20 lambic dhclient-2.2.x: exiting.
Mar 10 15:25:20 lambic dhclient-2.2.x: Sleeping.

As far as I know, roadrunner in NYC requires no host name - the modem validates 
the mac address of the ethernet card. It works fine when I boot to NT..., so 
I'm pretty confident the network is good, but I'm really at a loss right now...

Thoughts?

- Stephen Nosal
  NY, NY

On Wed, Feb 27, 2002 at 06:13:15PM +0100, Bjorn Erik Gravingen wrote:
> On Tuesday 26 February 2002 20:16, dman wrote:
> > On Sat, Feb 23, 2002 at 05:32:53PM -0600, hanasaki wrote:
> >
> > | What are the pro/con of dhcp-client vs pump?
> >
> > pump is made by RH (IIRC), dh-client is made by ISC (same group who
> > makes dhcpd and bind).  I've heard complaints in the past of pump not
> > working.  Anyways, I figure that the folks who make dhcpd must know
> > something about DHCP, and why not use their client if I'm using their
> > server?
> >
> 
> I've tried both, and have had problems with both. I have a dual boot
> set-up and booting linux after a windows session I sometimes fail
> to get an IP-address. My ISP is running a MS server of some kind
> and using the "--win-client-ident" option in pump solved all my troubles.
> (well, for DHCP that is ;-))
> 
> Unfortunately, I didn't find a way to set this option using the if-up
> package, so I replaced it with a script.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Bj?rn Erik Gravingen
> 
> 
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Re: Printing: CUPS, foomatic, hpoj and HP OfficeJet G85

2002-03-10 Thread Bill Wohler
Bill Wohler  writes:
>   Question 2: How can I configure CUPS to use this driver?

  I figured this one out too:

# foomatic-datafile -t cups -d hpijs -p 421970 > 
/usr/share/cups/model/HP-OfficeJet_G95-hpijs-cups.ppd 
# /etc/init.d/cupsys restart

  Then the G95 printer appeared in the list of printers in the web
  interface. I believe the G95 is identical to the G85, only network
  enabled.

  Is this the intended usage? It seems to me that if one uses the CUPS
  web front-end, one should not have to do this.

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Re: ppp (Woody) broken?

2002-03-10 Thread Ray
On Sun, Mar 10, 2002 at 02:32:52AM -0700, Ray wrote:
> I'm putting togher a router/firelwall using Woody and I'm having trouble
> with ppp.  I can connect and download stuff all day long but if I upload a
> file via either ftp or scp the connection drops after the first 100k or so. 
> I've tried 2 different modems (one external serial and one usb), 2 ISPs and
> even just now tried a different computer.  
> 
> Has anyone else run into this?

Here is an update to my earlier message:

Everything I've been able to turn up on Google suggests that this is a flow
controll problem so I tried setting the port speed down to 38400 to reduce
the possibility of overruns.  Sure enough uploads lasted much longer before
the modem dropped the connection so it seems like I may be on the right
track.  I checked the primary modem (the serial one) and it IS set to use
hardware flow control and my /etc/ppp/options file does contain "crtscts"
and "modem" which should cause pppd to use hardware flow control as well. 
The only things I can think of are that either pppd is ignoring these
options or a cable problem.  I'll be picking up a new cable tonight but I'm
not really sure how to verify that pppd doesn't have a bug that is keeping
it from using flow control properly.

I'd really appreciate hearing from anyone who has large uploads working at
full speed on woody via ppp or anyone who is running into the same problem.

-- 
Ray



more spamassassin questions.

2002-03-10 Thread Corey Halpin
  when one runs spamd -x, is there a way to specify what default configuration 
should be used by spamd?
  or does it just use the "factory default" settings?

thanks,
crh
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Re: questions about fvwm config, XF86Setup, fonts

2002-03-10 Thread Simon Hepburn
xucaen wrote:

> > I would purge all of your X3.3.6 packages and install
> > x-window-system-core to ensure you have the essential X4 packages.
>
> quick question; is there a simple way to purge my X 3.3.6 packages or will
> I have to remove them all one by one? and does X4 still use the same file
> names for it's configuration (.Xsessions, startx, .xinitrc, .Xdefaults,
> etc...)?

If you originally installed X3.3 using a metapackage (task-x-window ? Been a 
while since I ran potato...) then you could try removing that, dselect should 
show you its deps when you do so. The main config file is now XF86Config-4. 
In woody and sid selecting stuff like WM's and DE's is done using 
update-alternatives.


-- 
Simon Hepburn.



Re: networking problems withe Linksys router [Solved]

2002-03-10 Thread Chris Jenks

At 07:21 PM 3/1/02, Chris Jenks wrote:
I've looked on google, and in the archives, but I'm not having much luck 
finding what is causing my problem.


I've got a dual boot box, windows 98 and Debian 2.2r3, connecting to my 
cable modem via a linksys router. It's a Linksys Wireless access point + 
cable/dsl router with 4 port switch. I'm using the MAC address cloning 
feature of the router (with the wireless part turned off unless I'm using 
my laptop from somewhere else in my house). I'm also using the router for 
a DHCP server.


Before I put the router in I had no problem connecting to my Comcast cable 
modem from either windows, or linux and even had woody installed. After 
putting the router in, I can no longer access the anywhere on the LAN or 
the Internet from the Linux. When in windows (like right now) I have no 
problem.


I reinstalled 2.2r3 tonight thinking that I had messed up something when 
changing DHCP around (after I put the router in) but when I used the 
option to let the networking options be configured by the network using, 
DHCP or BootP, it failed. I set a static ip address on the box, but was 
unable to ping out from the box my laptop or the linksys router.


I'm curious if the problem is being caused by the MAC address cloning. Has 
anyone else had problems like this when using the linksys routers?


I finally got some real time to sit down and play with this problem today. 
I turned off MAC Address cloning, with no change in Linux. After 
reinstalling potato a third time, and installing progeny, and still not 
having it work, I decided to try a different port on the built in switch. 
Port 4 is a split port, it's shared with the uplink port (which has nothing 
in it). Anyway, after about 3/4 hour of trying to get two more inches of 
cable, I was able to move the cable over to port 1, and bounced the 
interface (ifconfig down/up). It started working. I moved the cable back to 
port 4, and it died again.


Chris
Sometimes it's the dead chicken that fixes the problem. Yes it was that 
hard to get that extra cable length.






Re: "dpkg -l" redirection

2002-03-10 Thread Oliver Elphick
On Sun, 2002-03-10 at 19:26, Jim Woodruff wrote:
> Does anyone have a way of redirecting the standard output of "dpkg -l" to
> a file without the truncation that takes place?

$ COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l > file

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  Suppose a brother or sister is without clothes and
  daily food.   If one of you says to him, "Go, I wish
  you well; keep warm and well fed," but does nothing
  about his physical needs, what good is it? In the same
  way, faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by
  actions, is dead."  James 2:14-17 



Truly stupid menu seting

2002-03-10 Thread stan
ON the default woody install, one of the Gnome menu picks is :IDE setup
tool". Trying to run this as a suer results in the message that you need 
to be root to run it. Cool.

Trying to login as root using gdm is not allowed.

Can anyone explain what the **k somebody was thinking when tehy set
this up!

-- 
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neither liberty nor safety."
-- Benjamin Franklin



slrn + leafnode = heavy load

2002-03-10 Thread Ian Balchin
Hi,

I am running a low-spec machine comprising a Cyrix 120 processor,
120 Mb ram, ample hdd and swap space.  It is running potatoe in
console mode.

Having got the setup going with help from this group, i find that my
hdd is being continually thrashed when in slrn. This us being used
on a ppp dialup to my isp and so am set to retrieve headers only
when i first dial in, and then a later dialup should retrieve bodies
of selected messages for offline perusal.

I am subscribed to a dozen non-heavy groups (comp.databases.paradox
and uk.adverts.books are typical)

In fact, the set up is nigh unuseable as the response time is so
slow, it is a wait everytime that you want to read a new post or
change to a new group.

 Every single action is accompanied by waits of many seconds and hdd
activity.  To select a group, to enter a group, to select a post, to
open that post, is cumulatively time consuming. It takes over 30
seconds to close a post, move to the adjacent group, select and open
another post.

In answer to Glynn, I see only the groups selected when i open up
slrn.  I did not have a .slrnrc but have now copied over the one
from /slrn/examples and there is no difference. The leafnode config
is also bog-standard. I can forward these if no one has any bright
idea. I have nothing else running to consume resources.

my .jnewsrc is all but 1Mb in size, with my subscribed groups at the
top followed by 4 groups from zippo. to a.bsu. as downloaded
from my local server.

There are times when it seems to be ok, i can arrow down half a
dozen posts but then it sticks and it is back to waiting 10 seconds
to move down one group.

Surely there must be something wrong? top shows slrn consuming 20%
of CPU and 40% of memory just to change groups.

-- 
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"dpkg -l" redirection

2002-03-10 Thread Jim Woodruff
Does anyone have a way of redirecting the standard output of "dpkg -l" to
a file without the truncation that takes place?

Thanks in advance for any advice.

Jim

--
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AW: only root can start a x-session

2002-03-10 Thread arno.baier.linux
Shyamal wrote:

>I believe this is set in /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config. I suspect your
>allowed_users is set to root (or console, and you are not on a
>console). I would set this with 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-common'

i made a reconfigure and set the permissoins to console users, it works!
thanks

arno




upgraded, now X isn't working

2002-03-10 Thread timothy bauscher
I upgraded from the stable 2.2r5 to the latest unstable version. This upgrade 
removed a lot of packages, including gcj. And, for reasons unknown to me, I no 
longer boot into a graphical login and can't startx. I realize I am not 
providing very much material to work with, but I would appreciate any 
suggestions.

(==timothy==)



Re: Printing: CUPS, foomatic, hpoj and HP OfficeJet G85

2002-03-10 Thread Dimitri Maziuk
* Bill Wohler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) spake thusly:
...
>   I also see cdj970 in the output of "gs -h." So, the driver is
>   available, but there isn't any ppd file for it, which CUPS seems to
>   need.
> 
>   Question 2: How can I configure CUPS to use this driver?

Drop the ppd into /etc/cups/ppd/your_printer_name.ppd

>   The cupsomatic-ppd package says that new installations should use the
>   foomatic packages, which I have done, but it appears that CUPS isn't
>   using it. Or do I first have to run some foomatic program manually to
>   generate a ppd file for the cdj970 for CUPS to use?

Point your browser at linuxprinting.org and get it to generate
a ppd for you. YMMV with those -- manufacturer's ppds work much 
better for me, so try to find that first. Google is your friend.

Dima
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big deal to an important technology innovator like Microsoft. They did just that
by naming a major project dot-Net (".Net").  Before that, a period followed by a
capital letter was used to mark a sentence boundary. --T. Gottfried, RISKS 21.91



Re: only root can start a x-session

2002-03-10 Thread Shyamal Prasad
"arno" == arno baier linux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

arno> Hi i've installed a new woody box with xfree86 4.1.0. if a
arno> normal user will start up the x-server the following message
arno> apears: "user not authorized to run the x-server"

arno> where can i change the permission for the users?

I believe this is set in /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config. I suspect your
allowed_users is set to root (or console, and you are not on a
console). I would set this with 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-common'

Cheers!
Shyamal




custom kernel init probs

2002-03-10 Thread Florian Struck
Hi i have just built my own (first ever =) ) kernel (2.4.18).
Well after about 4 tries (changing adding supports in menuconfig)
i got him boot and it all looks very promising until the point where it inits 
runlevel2 first there is a weird 4 line message about hotplug some comands 
not found (hotplug support is activated in kernel) but it continues loading 
untill it bails out at klogd with following msg:

Mar 10 19:08:00 desktop kernel: usb.c: kusbd: /sbin/hotplug add 3
Mar 10 19:09:40 desktop init: Id "1" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 
minutes
Mar 10 19:09:40 desktop init: Id "2" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 
minutes
Mar 10 19:09:40 desktop init: Id "3" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 
minutes
Mar 10 19:09:40 desktop init: Id "5" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 
minutes
Mar 10 19:09:40 desktop init: Id "4" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 
minutes
Mar 10 19:09:40 desktop init: Id "6" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 
minutes
Mar 10 19:09:40 desktop init: no more processes left in this runlevel
Mar 10 19:16:21 desktop init: Id "1" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 
minutes
Mar 10 19:16:21 desktop init: Id "2" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 
minutes
Mar 10 19:16:21 desktop init: Id "3" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 
minutes
Mar 10 19:16:21 desktop init: Id "4" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 
minutes
Mar 10 19:16:21 desktop init: Id "5" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 
minutes
Mar 10 19:16:21 desktop init: Id "6" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 
minutes

Thats a snip from my syslog at startup its a little more verbose.
i can only ctrl-alt-del
Any hints?
Florian



Re: Printing: CUPS, foomatic, hpoj and HP OfficeJet G85

2002-03-10 Thread Bill Wohler
Bill Wohler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>   Question 1: How do you specify a different device in the web
>   interface?)
  
  I answered this question: Rather than specify a device of "Parallel
  port", specify "AppSocket/HP JetDirect", and then use
  "parallel:/dev/ptal-printd/mlc_par_0" for the device URI.

  Still working on improving the driver.

  Just read this in the hpoj docs which might superseded the cdj970
  driver:

For the best print quality, use the HP inkjet driver, which consists
of a modification to ghostscript and a separate "server" process
(hpijs).

  gs -h shows hpijs, and there is a hpijs package, so it seems to be
  possible that this can be used.

  Question 3: Does this comment apply to the OfficeJet G85, and if so,
  how does one use it?

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only root can start a x-session

2002-03-10 Thread arno.baier.linux
Hi
i've installed a new woody box with xfree86 4.1.0. if a normal user will
start up the x-server the following message apears:
 "user not authorized to run the x-server"

where can i change the permission for the users?

thx

arno



Re: woody install and X

2002-03-10 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On Sun, Mar 10, 2002 at 07:39:53 -0800, Jeff wrote:
> Rick Pasotto, 2002-Mar-09 19:33 -0500:
> > I just did a fresh install of woody and it installed X and gnome but
> > never asked about configuring them.
> > 
> > Did I miss something? 
> 
> Not every component of X and Gnome require configuring.  Are you
> sure they are all there?  Make sure xserver-xfree86 and
> gnome-session are installed.  The xserver will require the most
> configuring.

I think this is a real problem. I installed woody a week ago and was
asked to choose between gdm and kdm before configuring the X server
(I don't remember which one I chose). When I rebooted, this locked
my machine. I had to boot in single user and remove these packages.

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Printing: CUPS, foomatic, hpoj and HP OfficeJet G85

2002-03-10 Thread Bill Wohler
  I'm trying to print to my HP OfficeJet G85. I figured I could just use
  the CUPS web interface to install the printer, but didn't find it
  listed there.

  I was able to configure the printer with the following:

lpadmin -p lp -E -v parallel:/dev/ptal-printd/mlc_par_0
-m deskjet.ppd

  Note that the connectivity is provided by the hpoj package, so instead
  of /dev/lp0, one uses /dev/ptal-printd/mlc_par_0.

  Question 1: How do you specify a different device in the web
  interface?)

  However, the deskjet driver is pretty basic (read: poor image quality)
  and doesn't provide double-sided printing. I believe the best driver
  currently available for this printer is the cdj970 (correct me if I'm
  wrong).

  Now, I see this:

/usr/share/foomatic/db/source/driver/cdj970.xml

  I also see cdj970 in the output of "gs -h." So, the driver is
  available, but there isn't any ppd file for it, which CUPS seems to
  need.

  Question 2: How can I configure CUPS to use this driver?

  The cupsomatic-ppd package says that new installations should use the
  foomatic packages, which I have done, but it appears that CUPS isn't
  using it. Or do I first have to run some foomatic program manually to
  generate a ppd file for the cdj970 for CUPS to use?

  Thanks. I've been reading docs and scripts like mad, but haven't been
  able to put the pieces together.
  
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Re: starnge errors in dmesg

2002-03-10 Thread Marc Wilson
On Sat, Mar 09, 2002 at 10:12:48AM -0500, stan wrote:
> VFS: Disk change detected on device ide1(22,64)

From ./linux/Documentation/devices.txt:


 22 charDigiboard serial card
  0 = /dev/ttyD0First Digiboard port
  1 = /dev/ttyD1Second Digiboard port
...
block   Second IDE hard disk/CD-ROM interface
  0 = /dev/hdc  Master: whole disk (or CD-ROM)
 64 = /dev/hdd  Slave: whole disk (or CD-ROM)

Partitions are handled the same way as for the first
interface (see major number 3).


So... your CD-ROM is on hdd, right? ^_^

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Re: lite applications

2002-03-10 Thread Michel Clasquin
On Sunday 10 March 2002 19:34, Joe wrote:
> I'm on a 1.2 Ghz Athlon & still haven't found any mail reader better
> than mutt, but if you want a GUI one, there again I will suggest KDE-1
> kmail. 

IIRC, KDE1's kmail was declared broken last year on account of the UNIX 
epoch. Not sure if anyone thought it worthwhile to go and fix it with KDE2 
kmail already available. Still, that should only mean that your mail 
arrives with funny datestamps.

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Re: lite applications

2002-03-10 Thread Joe
On Sat, Mar 09, 2002 at 11:52:43PM -0800, Karsten M. Self wrote:
> on Fri, Mar 08, 2002, Nicholas Imfeld ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > I have set up an old 486 laptop with debian.  I am looking for an x
> > email client (preferably graphical as opposed to test based) and a web
> > browser that don't require a lot of space, memory, etc.  
> 
> I'd ***STRONGLY*** encourage you to stick with the text alternatives,
> unless you're using the 486 _just_ as an X11 terminal, you might be able
> to run more advanced apps on it.  Otherwise, I'd stick with mutt, w3m,
> lynx, and similar text-mode apps.
> 
> If X is an absolute requirement, look to BrowseX as a browser.  It's
> Tk/Tcl based and pretty light.  Nothing else I'm aware of comes close.
> Dillo's small of itself, but the gtk requirements are large.

If you install KDE 1.x you might try the kfm file manager as a browser
replacement. Other possiblities include Netscape 3 & Chimera.

I'm on a 1.2 Ghz Athlon & still haven't found any mail reader better
than mutt, but if you want a GUI one, there again I will suggest KDE-1
kmail. Another mail client people say is small & fast is called sylpheed
but I haven't tried it. I notice it depends on gtk+ and is not present
in the stable tree.

If you have trouble finding a Debian kde-1, try finding a mirror for
Stormix or old Libranet here's one place that has Storm:
http://download.sourceforge.net/pub/mirrors/storm

CraigW



Re: GnuCash vs MoneyDance

2002-03-10 Thread Bob Hauck
> > MoneyDance is a multi platform Java app and commercial.

> Is it 100% Java?  Same JAR runs on all OS's or OS' specific ports w/ JNI?

I'm using the older v2 of Moneydance.  Moved it from an Intel box to a
PowerPC one, kept the same jar files.  Works fine.  Both of those were
Debian though, haven't tried to run it on NT or anything.

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Re: Upgrading to testing with broken potato dselect?

2002-03-10 Thread user list
On Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 09:44:09AM +, Martin Edward John Waller wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I have potato with XFree 4.1 installed.  But
> whenever I run dselect now, it insists on removing
> 
> XFree4.1 (which I need for my video card).
> If i change my sources.list to point to testing
> and do
> 
> apt-get update --fix-broken
> 
> will that upgrade my system cleanly and let me
> keep Xfree4.1?
> 
> Or is there more to it than that?

Did you install 4.1 from testing? Did you install task-x-window-system?

I had difficulty becaus in testing task-x-window-system became x-window-system.
When I removed the former and installed the latter my life became much better.
> 
> Ta,
> 
> Martin
> 
> 
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Re: wheel mouse

2002-03-10 Thread Daniel Toffetti
On Sunday 10 March 2002 13:31, Nathan wrote:
> In all the posts i have seen so far there hasn't been a suggestion
> for
>
> Option "Buttons"  "5"
>
> all of this works well for me in that combination.
> I hope this will be able to help you.

Well... I restarted the xserver and it crashed. Perhaps there is any 
combination of this option and the other settings, as the protocol, 
that works OK, I'll keep trying.
Thanks !

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Re: Wheel mouse DIFFERENT PROBLEM

2002-03-10 Thread Daniel Toffetti
On Sunday 10 March 2002 04:47, Greg Murphy wrote:
> Hello,
> I've tried rebooting using gpm with the protocal imps2. Setting gpm
> to imps2 makes it bounce around the consol. Is it possible that it's
> not a imps2 mouse? It's got a wheel and it's plugged into the ps2
> port!
> -Greg Murphy

Check /usr/doc/xserver-xfree86/README.mouse.gz, there is a complete 
list of mice and the protocols that work with them. Perhaps you can try 
with some of those protocols.
Good luck !

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Re: DVD players under Linux (was: Re: 2.4 kernels with potato and Movie players)

2002-03-10 Thread user list
Thanks for responding to my question.

On Tue, Mar 05, 2002 at 11:13:57PM -0300, Rog?rio Brito wrote:
> On Mar 05 2002, user list wrote:
> > I'm thinking of installing a 2.4 kernel on a potato box. Is there
> > any problem with stability?
> 
>   Well, you'll have to upgrade some packages first (mainly those
>   related to kernel modules). If the box is not critical (i.e.,
>   if it is just a desktop), then upgrading to woody would be
>   better.
> 
> > Also, I'm trying to install a DVD player. What is the best linux
> > player with debian?
> 
>   Does it have to come with Debian? If yes, then the best one is
>   xine, which comes with woody and can have DeCSS, DVD
>   navigation and deinterlacing.
> 
>   If, on the other hand, you don't care that much if your player
>   comes with Debian, I'd recommend you to grab a copy of mplayer
>   (http://mplayer.sf.net/). It works very well with all the
>   above and the deinterlacing of DVDs is the best one that I
>   have ever seen in a Linux box.
> 
>   To be honest, mplayer with all the add-ons compiled
>   (libdvdread2, liblame0, libdvdcss1 etc) is much better than
>   the Windows DVD player from Cyberlink that came with my Asus
>   Motherboard, even regarding the deinterlacing of movies.
> 
>   The only "problem" with mplayer is that you'll have to compile
>   it yourself, but since it has a debian directory, compiling is
>   as easy as "dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc -rfakeroot" (be sure to
>   install the build dependencies and anything else you would
>   like installed, like development packages).
> 
>   I guess that you won't be able to compile it with potato,
>   though.
> 
>   You will also need quite a bit of cpu power to watch your DVDs
>   deinterlaced. And a relatively recent version of X, with
>   support for the xv extension for your card.
> 
I have upgraded my box to woody (testing) and I've installed mplayer. I don't
remember a liblame0. I ask because the movies are pretty slow. Here are the 
specs. of my box

600 MHz Athlon
756 M CRAM
Matrox Millennium G200 (16 MB)
12x DVD-CD rom drive

30GB Hard disk

Two general questions:

1. If this is a fast enough box, what are the switches that I need to
improve speed.  I can't (or don't know how to) access DGA. Is this important?

2. If the box is not fast enough what is (are) the critical piece(s) to 
upgrade?

Thanks again for the response.
> 
>   Hope this helps, Roger...
> 
> P.S.: Another problem with mplayer is that it is not exactly free,
> since it includes non-GPL'ed parts.
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Re: PINE, Rpm, not installed?

2002-03-10 Thread Joe
On Sun, Mar 10, 2002 at 12:26:36PM +0200, Michel Clasquin wrote:
> On Sunday 10 March 2002 04:55, Joe wrote:
> 
> > > > Rpm isnt there either...
> 
> > > We're *not* Red Hat.  Don't insult us with that.
> >
> > actually though, rpm & alien both are there, in stable, testing, and
> > unstable, and they seem to work quite well.
> >
> > If you wanted to go to rpmfind.net for something like pine, it just
> > might work.
> 
> But surely, only if you tried to install something with no dependencies at 
> all?  After all, all the library files are registered debian style, not in 
> the rpm database. Or is rpm only there because alien needs it?
> 

Yes, alien depends on rpm, and AFAIK that's about the only reason rpm is
there. Alien will generate a deb file from an rpm, which have their own
method of dependency checking, so one thing alien does is attempt to
translate that. Then you install it with dpkg, which will of course
catch any conflicts. The few times I've used it I've been quite pleased.

CraigW



Re: Woody CD ROM images?

2002-03-10 Thread Jeff
Randolph S. Kahle, 2002-Mar-09 17:40 -0700:
> I have found some "unofficial" Woody CDROM images and they are in files
> with names such as 
> 
> woody-i386-1.raw
> 
> Are these ISO images ready to be burned?
> 
> Also -- why eight (8) different images?
> 
> From what I understand reading the information at the site, all I need
> is the first CDROM image.
> 
> Thanks for any tips!
> 
> Randy

Yes, these images are ready to burn.  Treat it like an iso image.
I think the ".raw" extention indicates a raw file format, without
any fancy stuff, but I'm not sure.

jc

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Re: woody install and X

2002-03-10 Thread Jeff
Rick Pasotto, 2002-Mar-09 19:33 -0500:
> I just did a fresh install of woody and it installed X and gnome but
> never asked about configuring them.
> 
> Did I miss something? 
> 
> -- 
> If you wish to prosper, let your customer prosper. This is a
> lesson it has taken you a very long time to learn.
> When people have learned this lesson, everyone will seek his
> individual welfare in the general welfare. Then jealousies between
> man and man, city and city, province and province, nation and
> nation, will no longer trouble the world.
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Not every component of X and Gnome require configuring.  Are you
sure they are all there?  Make sure xserver-xfree86 and
gnome-session are installed.  The xserver will require the most
configuring.

jc

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Re: need advice on IRC client choice

2002-03-10 Thread Jeff
Gary Turner, 2002-Mar-09 14:33 -0600:
> It's hard to believe, but I haven't done chat (and I've been 'online'
> since Genie in '90 or '91).  I don't even have a chat client installed
> on any of my machines.
> 
> So, I figure -- let's stick one on the Debian box.  A quick
> 
> "apt-cache search irc | grep client"
> 
> yields 48 client packages.  There's everything from bitchx to zircon.
> As you might imagine, I need some suggestions on which irc-client to
> install.
> 
> I'm running Debian Woody, X11 v4, and Gnome-sawfish desktop.  I mention
> the X stuff because for this application I think a graphical interface
> will be more appropriate for me (panels, sizing, etc.).
> 
> Please don't start a religious war.  Just tell me what you like and why
> it's the next best thing to sliced bread :=)
> 
> tnx,
> --

Start with xchat.  It's pretty straight forward and easy to get
started with.  Bitchx is my favorite term-based client, and its
very powerful.  I suggest getting famialiar with both, as I have,
so that when you get into a situation where X is not possible,
you have a client you can still use.

jc

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Re: Wheel mouse

2002-03-10 Thread Cam Ellison
* Nathan E Norman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 09, 2002 at 09:58:09PM -0800, Cam Ellison wrote:
> > * csj ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > > On Fri, 08 Mar 2002 21:17:27 -0600
> > > Kent West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > 

> > So what are your settings?  I have one on my kids' machine, and it is as 
> > flaky as can be.
> 
> If you're talking about the Logitech Optical Mouse, I have several and
> with one exception found them easy to set up and get working.
> 
> My XF86Config-4 has
> 
>   Section "InputDevice"
>   Identifier  "Logitech Optical Mouse M-BJ58"
>   Driver  "mouse"
>   Option  "Buttons""5"
>   Option  "CorePointer"
>   Option  "Device" "/dev/misc/psaux"
>   Option  "Protocol"   "IMPS/2"
>   Option  "ZAxisMapping"   "4 5"
>   EndSection
> 
> However, I did have one machine with an el-cheapo athlon motherboard
> that would freak out if the optical mouse was plugged into it, usb or
> ps/2.  What was really strange is that this problem occurred in linux 
> and Win2k, and not with other mice! Finally I got pawned that system
> board off to someone who uses an intellimouse (and windows) instead.
> 
>
Thanks, Nathan.  That confirms most of what I have been seeing.  I set it up as 
per yours above, and it works like a dam.  Wiping out gpm helped, I think.  One 
weird (?) thing I noticed that probably caused much of the problem was the 
presence of two mice in XF86Config-4: a generic and the Logitech.  Both were 
listed as live.  Naturally, I have it set for one only.

Thanks for the assistance.

Cam

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Re: how to config net in WMware?

2002-03-10 Thread Meir Kriheli
On Sunday 10 March 2002 09:21, debian2002 wrote:
> hI:
> I try to install Potato 2.2r5 in VMware3.0 on Win2K. but how to and the
> model for the network card in the VM.
> i try some models, it said the device is busy,cannot add
> model,fail,something like that.
> Does anyone has the same problem with me?
>
>
> From:
> debian2002

The card vmware is using is AMD PCNet 32 (Don't know if supported in potato's 
 boot disks kernel - Maybe you can add it after the installation ?).
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Re: Woody CD ROM images?

2002-03-10 Thread Randolph S. Kahle
Caleb,

Thank you for this tip. It is working very well.

Randy


On Sat, 2002-03-09 at 17:56, Caleb Shay wrote:
> Well, if you've got a decent net connection, check out
> 
> http://people.debian.org/~ieure/netinst/
> 
> ~30MiB iso image that downloads almost everything over the net so you
> don't download gigs of isos that are mostly packages you won't be using.
> 
> Caleb




Re: Massive issues with WMaker and X

2002-03-10 Thread Charles Baker

--- Manoj Mathew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Do you have the package 'menu' installed?
> 
> mvm.
> 
> On Fri, Mar 08, 2002 at 01:42:56PM -0800, Jonathan
> Ard wrote:
> > 
> > Ok, so I am having some major issues with Window
> Maker.  When I start it
> > up, it tells me it can't load the Applications
> Menu, and that I should
> > check the output in the terminal to see what the
> problem is. 
> > Unfortunately, I am running wdm, so I don't have a
> terminal to look at. 
> > So, I stopped wdm, and tried to start X manually. 
> For some reason, it
> > doesn't work.  The screen blinks a few times then
> it just comes back to
> > the terminal.  Looked in the log file for X and it
> doesn't seem to have
> > encountered any errors.  
<>

I had this problem after doing an apt-get dist-upgrade
on Friday. I do use startx rather than gdm, xdm, wdm,
etc. I saw an error stating that /usr/bin/cpp couldn't
be found on the terminal I had started X from in X 's
output. I went and looked and sure enough, no cpp, but
cpp-2.95 and cpp-3.0. I created a symlink to cpp-2.95,
restarted Windowmaker, and got my application menu back.

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copying/creating VCDs

2002-03-10 Thread Davor Balder
Hello guys!

Is there an easy way to create copies of VCDs (I just got one from a friend)? I 
know there is a special format (two tracks according to specifications)... I 
guess I could just simply copy the actual mpeg file from the CD... But, is 
there an easy way to actually copy the VCD using the standard tools like 
cdrecord and the like? I hate using windows for this!!

TIA

Davor



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Re: How to Install Pine on Potato?

2002-03-10 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas
On Sat, 9 Mar 2002, Dave Scott wrote:

> Ok, three different installs of Potato and still cannot get pine to
> install. :-(
>

Unofficial pine 4.44 .debs are available from http://www.braincells.com/open/


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Re: need advice on IRC client choice

2002-03-10 Thread Michael C. Alonzo
On Sat, Mar 09, 2002 at 02:33:05PM -0600, Gary Turner wrote:
> It's hard to believe, but I haven't done chat (and I've been 'online'
> since Genie in '90 or '91).  I don't even have a chat client installed
> on any of my machines.
> 
> So, I figure -- let's stick one on the Debian box.  A quick
> 
> "apt-cache search irc | grep client"
> 
> yields 48 client packages.  There's everything from bitchx to zircon.
> As you might imagine, I need some suggestions on which irc-client to
> install.
> 
> I'm running Debian Woody, X11 v4, and Gnome-sawfish desktop.  I mention
> the X stuff because for this application I think a graphical interface
> will be more appropriate for me (panels, sizing, etc.).
> 
> Please don't start a religious war.  Just tell me what you like and why
> it's the next best thing to sliced bread :=)
> 
> tnx,
> --
> gt
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> 
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i use BitchX.. it's a very nice console client.. 

http://www.bitchx.org

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Re: Copying Partition, Using Reiser.

2002-03-10 Thread Michael C. Alonzo
On Sat, Mar 09, 2002 at 03:32:28PM -0600, Timothy R. Butler wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>   I have a 1.9 Gig install of Debian I would like to copy to a second 
> computer. Further more, I would like to format the hard disk on the new 
> computer with ReiserFS rather than ext2. Is there a simple way to do the 
> above steps?
>   If not, is there an easy way to do a netinst install using ReiserFS? The 
> only net_inst image I can find that offers Reiser seems to require ElTorrito 
> Alternate Boot Image support, which my notebook does not seem to support.
> 
>   Any suggestions/ideas?
> 
>   Thanks,
>Tim

i've already done this.. just read the Hard-Disk Upgrade mini-howto
and subs the filesystem specifics there with reiserfs.. and before you 
boot to your other disk(with reiserfs), make sure you've changed
fstab, and compile the kernel with reiserFS support...

HTH


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Run Levels (was: Primer needed on modconf and friends.)

2002-03-10 Thread Bill Moseley
At 02:25 PM 3/10/2002 +0100, Matijs van Zuijlen wrote:

>> This seems counter intuitive to me.  Can someone explain why it works that 
>> way?


>To me this makes perfect sense. The K's tell you what you don't want in
>a runlevel, the S's tell you what you do want. In your interpretation,
>if level 2 had service foo started (i.e., it has: Sfoo), and 3
>didn't (so it has Kfoo), it would never get stopped going from 2
>to 3. If you follow the manual, foo will always be running in level 2,
>and never in level 3.


Maybe I'm looking at the run levels wrong.  I must be.  Still it seems
backwards.

Say run level 3 is for X, graphical login and such on a machine.  I have a
service I want running only in level 3, perhaps a font server.  So the
current design means to start the service I need to add a S script (link)
in rc3.d.  That makes sense.  

But to stop that service when switching to other run levels means that a
Stop script must be added to *all* the other rcN.d directories.  It would
seem easier to add the Stop one place --- the directory where it was started.

Or another way to look at it, say I'm switching from run level 4 to level 2
-- that is I've never had X running at run level 3.

Why should "K" scripts be run to stop services related to run level 3 (or
any other run levels)?  Why does switching from run level 4 to 2 need to
worry about stopping services not started in run level 4?  If both run
level 4 and level 2 are text-based modes, why bother trying to stop the
font server if it was never running in the first place?

It just seems more logical to stop things you *know* are running then just
trying to stop things that *might* be running.

This is Linux, though, so there must be a reason I'm missing.


Bill Moseley
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Re: segfault with postponed and mutt_1.3.27-4_i386

2002-03-10 Thread Matijs van Zuijlen
On Sat, Mar 09, 2002 at 01:25:09PM -0800, Mike Fedyk wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 09, 2002 at 11:12:13AM +0100, Matijs van Zuijlen wrote:
> > On Fri, Mar 08, 2002 at 06:04:02PM -0800, Mike Fedyk wrote:
> > > Maybe the subject change will make more eyes look at the message...
> > > 
> > > If you *haven't* seen this problem yourself, I'd like to know, as well
> > > if you have.

Well, finally, I can give you an answer to that one ;). See below.

> > > Mike
> > > 
> > > On Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 02:20:54PM -0800, Mike Fedyk wrote:
> > > > If I have more than one message postponed, mutt segfaults, this
> > > > is with mbox or maildir postponed folders.
> > > > 
> > > > Has anyone else seen this?
> > 
> > I haven't seen it, because I haven't tried it. What are the steps that
> > lead to the segfault? Does it happen the moment you say yes the second
> > time mutt asks you if you want to postpone the message?
> >
> 
> Yes.  I have filed a bug against mutt with more specific information.
> 
> I just did it again...
> 
> One message in postponed?  works normally.
> 
> More than one? output below:
> 
> Reading /home/mfedyk/Mail/postponed... 1Segmentation fault
> 
> It also works if I don't relocate my postponed folder, or if it is in mbox
> or maildir format.

I see. Well, I tried it, and I don't have any problems. 2, 3 postponed
messages, no problem at all. I read the bug report, and I noticed that
it says your version of mutt is 1.3.27-2, not 1.3.27-4, like it says in
the title. Which version is it, really? Have you tried upgrading?

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Re: What is the difference between Potato and Woody?

2002-03-10 Thread Randolph S. Kahle
On Sat, 2002-03-09 at 23:13, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote:
> 
> On 10-Mar-2002 Randolph S. Kahle wrote:
> > I have started reading details about Woody. (I am running Potato on all
> > of my machines with the 2.4 kernel).
> > 
> > I was surprise to see that the 2.4 kernel is "optional". This leads me
> > to a fundamental question... What makes Woody different?
> > 
> > Are there structure changes (layout, etc.) that are incompatible with
> > Potato? If not, why not just keep upgrading the packages.
> > 
> 
> 2.4 is the default though, you still have the choice of using 2.2.
> 
> Woody is roughly 2 years worth of new code.  That is the big difference.  XFr
> ee 4.x not 3.3.x, etc.
> 

So, instead of looking at Debian as a bunch of interesting packages
running on top of a kernel, I should view each release as a stable set
of packages that all are known to work together. And that to get a
release (such as Woody) ready for release this involves:

* Release/Install processes, packages, and procedures are updated
and stabilized.

* New target kernel features are determined and stabilized

* Packages are stabilized against the new target kernel feature
set.
  
* Bugs and incompatibilities resulting from packages working
together are identified and fixed.

Is this a good way to view things?

Randy




Re: Primer needed on modconf and friends.

2002-03-10 Thread Matijs van Zuijlen
On Sat, Mar 09, 2002 at 05:38:42PM -0800, Bill Moseley wrote:
> Is there a good summary document that explains modconf and /etc/modules.conf 
> in Debian? 
>
> [snip about modules]

Sorry, I'm working in the blind there myself ... but:

> My wife just gave me a blank stare when I discussed this with her, so allow 
> me to ask something else:
> 
> In the /etc/rc*.d directories there are both K and S symlinks.  I always 
> assumed if you went from, say, runlevel 2 to run level 3 first all the 
> /etc/rc2.d/K* scripts were called with "stop" and then all the /etc/rc3.d/S* 
> scripts are run.  I read in the Debian Policy Manual 10.3.1 that's not how it 
> works.  Instead going from runlevel 2 to 3, all the K's are run in rc3.d and 
> then all the S scripts in rc3.d.
> 
> This seems counter intuitive to me.  Can someone explain why it works that 
> way?

To me this makes perfect sense. The K's tell you what you don't want in
a runlevel, the S's tell you what you do want. In your interpretation,
if level 2 had service foo started (i.e., it has: Sfoo), and 3
didn't (so it has Kfoo), it would never get stopped going from 2
to 3. If you follow the manual, foo will always be running in level 2,
and never in level 3.

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Matijs



how to config net in WMware?

2002-03-10 Thread debian2002
hI:
I try to install Potato 2.2r5 in VMware3.0 on Win2K. but how to and the
model for the network card in the VM.
i try some models, it said the device is busy,cannot add
model,fail,something like that.
Does anyone has the same problem with me?


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debian2002





SoundBlaster 128

2002-03-10 Thread Charlie Grosvenor
Hi
I am trying to get my sound blaster 128 card to work with debian woody.
In the /etc/modules file i have put es1371 the name of the required kernel
module, by doing this I can play sound, is there anything else i should put
in the /etc/modules file? What i am trying to do that doesn;'t work is get
eh ALSA driver to work, i use alsaconf to configure it for my sound card but
when ever i try and start it i get the error "modprobe: Can't locate module
snd failed" why do i get this? the module snd doens't seem to exist. I am
running kernel version 2.4.16-k7.

Thankyou

Charlie



files disappearing??? apt-get fun?

2002-03-10 Thread Erik Steffl
  not sure how it happened but this is second time that I have found out
files missing on my computer, I think it's after upgrade but can't be
sure.

  some time ago I suddenly found out that xvncviewer file is no longer
on my computer, it was still listed in locate output and xvncviewer
package was installed but the program itself was gone. reinstalling
xvncviewer worked, I didn't find anything else missing.

  today same thing happened with /usr/X11R6/bin/fvwm* files (they were
in locate output, the package was listed as installed but the files were
not there!)

  not sure if there's anything else missing - is there any way to easily
check the integrity of debian system (whether the files that system
thinks are installed are really there)?

  I used apt-get and aptitude (didn't find similar bug for apt, aptitude
or dpkg).

  any ideas? TIA

erik



Re: telnetd prompt

2002-03-10 Thread Jens Müller
Shyamal Prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> My somewhat uneducated guess is that your reverse DNS might be behind
> this. Notice what I get (apologies for the telnets to your box ;-):

debian.enode.de is not my box, it is just a name I use internally for
my box (as enode.de is my domain).

debian.enode.de resolved to my Web provider ...

My external name is enode.dyndns.org

> 
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dig debian.enode.de
> <..deleted...>
> ;; ANSWER SECTION:
> debian.enode.de.86388   IN  A   212.227.109.196
> <..deleted..>
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ telnet debian.enode.de
> Trying 212.227.109.196...
> Connected to kundenserver.de.
> Escape character is '^]'.
> Warning! 
>
> For security reasons all ssh and telnet sessions are logged, and may
> be monitored. By logging in you give consent to these conditions.
>
> <...deleted stuff where I get auto disconnected>
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dig 196.109.227.212.in-addr.arpa ptr
> <...deleted...>
>
> ;; ANSWER SECTION:
> 196.109.227.212.in-addr.arpa. 86400 IN  PTR kundenserver.de.
>
> <...deleted...>
> 
>
> So at least now I have a hint about where the kundenserver.de is
> coming from.

Yes, the telnetd resolves debian.enode.de and then reverse-resolves
the IP. But why doesn't it just take the hostname?

> I'm still not sure why your telnet issue looks the way it
> does, and further, I don't see the same thing from here.


Yes, because you have a proper hostname.

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Re: telnetd prompt

2002-03-10 Thread Jens Müller
"Eric C. Cooper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> The ai_canonname field gives the "official name of the host",
> according to "man getaddrinfo".  HTH.

Oh, OK ...

and because my hostname does not resolve to my host ...

Pretty clear now!
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dselect problems too much of what I don't want, nothing of what I need

2002-03-10 Thread Craig Sampson
G'day list,

I'm somehow managed to mung the dselect database to a point 
where it wants to uninstall a heap of critical packages and 
install a boatload of stuff I don't want.

I'm uninclined to ferret through the entire dselect package 
listing to try and work out whats happened - it would be far 
quicker to just reinstall Debian (potato).

At this point, what I really need to do is to somehow rebuild 
the dselect database so that it can start afresh (if you like) 
with only those packages that are actually installed.

I've read everything I can get my hands on in the system, also 
on dejanews and debian.org and cannot see any way to stop the 
persistance of package selection/deselection from previous 
dselect instances.

I noticed from my searching of dejanews that this is an often 
asked question, perhaps the 2nd most asked question of all time 
(after 'Is debian any good?') - yet no solutions seem to have 
ever been suggested that don't involve a huge amount of manual 
selection/deselection work.

Anyone got some ideas? 

Cheers,
Craig

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