Re: Small footprint window manager

[Ron Johnson]

On Sun, 2002-05-12 at 19:42, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote:
> > 
> > Isn't this all rather academic, since Miroslav has a _386_ with
> > only SIXTEEN MB RAM?  Running X would be folly!!  Not only is the
> > CPU old and slow, but so is the RAM, HDD, video card, etc.  And 
> > the HDD will tiny!!!
> > 
> 
> sufficient X to have multiple term windows open at once.  He won't be running
> KDE or what not, but that is not a requirement.  Web browsing, simple file
> editing, etc can be done there.  My first Debian machine was a 486 dx2 66 with
> 16 megs of ram and a 800mb (top of the line for the time) hard drive.

Your CPU was _much_ faster, you had 2x as much RAM, and I bet your
HDD was faster than Miroslavs.  And, as I question in another post,
you were probably running the 2.0 (or lower?) kernel, and libc5,
both of which are much smaller than kernel 2.2 with libc6 2.2.x.
Don't forget the really old versions of XFree86 and gcc.

In other words, RedHat 5.2 or what ever Debian was out then.  He'd
have to find binaries from back then, since newer s/w assumes libc6

What would you _do_ with it, nowadays?

The 2.2 kernel and apps like elvis and links or lynx in virtual
terminals would be great (well, adequate) though.

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Re: Small footprint window manager

[Ron Johnson]

On Sun, 2002-05-12 at 18:04, John Hasler wrote:
> Ron Johnson writes:
> > Isn't this all rather academic, since Miroslav has a _386_ with only
> > SIXTEEN MB RAM?  Running X would be folly!!
> 
> I used to run X on a 386/33 with 8MB.  Slow, but usable.

The 2.0 kernel, libc5, XFree 3.1 (or some other much older X)
and gcc 2.7x?

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Debian packages MD5 sums

[Sandeep Gopal Nijsure]

Hi all,

I am looking for MD5 sums of the latest versions of clean Debian packages
for "testing"  distribution. I wanted them so that I could compare them
with the sums of packages installed on a machine to see if a machine has
been compromised. Please let me know the URL where they are made public,
if at all they are.

Thanks a lot
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Re: affichage déporté (fwd)

[Robert Walker]

-- french ---

Bonjour,

Il suffit de lancer xterm avec la commande
xterm -display serveur:0.0
Pour dire l'ecran 0 du poste 0 nomme serveur.
Il est probablement plus efficace de changer la variable d'environement
DISPLAY
$ DISPLAY=serveur:0.0
$ export DISPLAY
( dans un shell bourne) ou
$ setenv DISPLAY serveur:0.0 (sans un shell c)

Ce qui permet d'afficher toutes vos applications sur serveur:0.0 . ..
Notez que si vous etes connecte par ssh (a partir de serveur) cette
variable devrait deja etre initialisee et contenir la bonne valeur.
Pour verifier l'etat d'une variable environement vous n'avez qu'a
$ echo $NOM_VARIABLE

Ciao.
Robert.

> Bonjour,
>
> J'ai un petit pbm pour d?port? mon affichage X.
> Sur le poste ou mon serveur X tourne, j'ai fait "xhost +".
> Sur le client, je lance l'applicarion "xterm -display serveur:0"
> Et il me dit "Can't open display: serveur:0.
> Quelqu'un aurait-il une id?e pour rem?dier ? ce probl?me, car ? part un
> xhost +, je ne vois pas ce que je peux faire.
>
> Merci.
>
> Antoine
>
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>
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Re: xfree redux

[Tom Cook]

This is purely how *I* would do it, there is sure to be a Better Way
(TM).

On  0, Jeff Maxson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Awhile back I purchased a video card that was only supported by version
> 4.1 of Xfree86.  At the time, woody didn't have it in it's repertoire, so
> I installed it manually from the tar.gz files found at the homepage of
> xfree.  Of course, now woody has the 4.1 version in it.  I have installed
> the debian version with apt-get, but I am not sure if the "X" that is
> actually being used is the one from my self-installation or the one from
> the apt-got version...(is it overwritten? that would solve the whole
> thing) So,
> 
> 1) how do I know which one is actually running?

ps auwx | grep X

will tell you which executable is running.

dpkg -L xserver-common

will tell you where apt put the woody version.

With any luck you know where you put your version.

> 3) how do I delete the self-installed version and not hurt the debianized
> one?

I wouldn't worry.

> 2) how do I convert from the self-installed to the apt-got version?

rm -rf /path/to/where/you/installed/X
apt-get --reinstall install xserver-common

and all the other X packages.

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Re: Hard drive performance, new kernel?

[Kirk Strauser]

At 2002-05-13T02:16:41Z, Matthew Daubenspeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I have tried multiple things to speed up my hard drive access, and the
> best I can seem to squeeze out of a 7200RPM 40GB HDD is 23 MB/s. That just
> doesn't sound right... I have another box with another linux distro with
> an ATA66 5400RPM drive that gets 40 MB/s without even tweaking anything.
> 
> The only possibility I can thing of is that I never told the debian
> installer what IDE controller I was using, and it is just loading a
> generic. Is this possible?

More likely is that your Debian box is reporting accurate transfer rates,
while your other Linux box is spitting out rather wild numbers.  40MB/s?  On
a 5400RPM drive?  That's not terribly likely, except in the situation where
you're repeatedly reading the same blocks in many consecutive transaction.
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Re: driver

[Jamin W . Collins]

On Mon, 13 May 2002 10:33:44 +0900 (JST)
"salasa nawang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> What happen to the Linux support of the Promise TEchnology, INC.
> In their site www.promise.com, it was shown items on lists that there
> are Linux supports for various products like controllers, etc...
> But when you brouse it, it says
> No corresponding data

Don't think this is really a Debian question per-say.  However, the
promise site appears to be working fine on this end.  I'm able to browse
to Linux information in their support section without problem.

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Re: debconf config

[Jerome Acks Jr]

On Sun, May 12, 2002 at 09:30:58PM -0400, Dave L. wrote:
> while installing debconf_1.1.2_all.deb on Potato 2.2r6 (in order to install
   ^---^
debconf_ 1.1.2? woody and sid only have 1.0.32.

For X4.1 on potato look at
http://people.debian.org/~cpbotha/xf410_potato/ 
   
> xfree 4.1.0), during configure stage...
> 
> 'no type given for question at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/Question.pm line
> 15.'
> 
> i even tried to comment out the check ('die') to no avail :)
> 
> help  :]

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Hard drive performance, new kernel?

[Matthew Daubenspeck]

I have tried multiple things to speed up my hard drive access, and the
best I can seem to squeeze out of a 7200RPM 40GB HDD is 23 MB/s. That
just doesn't sound right... I have another box with another linux
distro with an ATA66 5400RPM drive that gets 40 MB/s without even
tweaking anything.

The only possibility I can thing of is that I never told the debian
installer what IDE controller I was using, and it is just loading a
generic. Is this possible?

Is there any easy way to recompile the kernel, or do I have to
download the sources and do it the old fashion way?


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xfree redux

[Jeff Maxson]

Hi all,

Awhile back I purchased a video card that was only supported by version
4.1 of Xfree86.  At the time, woody didn't have it in it's repertoire, so
I installed it manually from the tar.gz files found at the homepage of
xfree.  Of course, now woody has the 4.1 version in it.  I have installed
the debian version with apt-get, but I am not sure if the "X" that is
actually being used is the one from my self-installation or the one from
the apt-got version...(is it overwritten? that would solve the whole
thing) So,

1) how do I know which one is actually running?

2) how do I convert from the self-installed to the apt-got version?

3) how do I delete the self-installed version and not hurt the debianized
one?

I just don't want to take up hard drive space with two copies of all those
fonts...

TIA,
Jeff

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driver

[salasa nawang]

What happen to the Linux support of the Promise TEchnology, INC.
In their site www.promise.com, it was shown items on lists that there are 
Linux supports for various products like controllers, etc...
But when you brouse it, it says
No corresponding data

Any idea?
Thanks


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debconf config

[Dave L.]

while installing debconf_1.1.2_all.deb on Potato 2.2r6 (in order to install
xfree 4.1.0), during configure stage...

'no type given for question at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/Question.pm line
15.'

i even tried to comment out the check ('die') to no avail :)

help  :]



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Re: Don't install lvm2!

[Adam Heath]

On Sun, 12 May 2002, Andres Salomon wrote:

> As for the really-bad-shape part; they work for me (tm); I don't have a
> system w/ /usr on a separate partition.  I apologize for the bug, but
> they happen.


Read -policy and/or the packaging manual.  Things in /{{s,}bin,lib} can not
use thinks in /usr.


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Re: Small footprint window manager

[Sean 'Shaleh' Perry]

> 
> Isn't this all rather academic, since Miroslav has a _386_ with
> only SIXTEEN MB RAM?  Running X would be folly!!  Not only is the
> CPU old and slow, but so is the RAM, HDD, video card, etc.  And 
> the HDD will tiny!!!
> 

sufficient X to have multiple term windows open at once.  He won't be running
KDE or what not, but that is not a requirement.  Web browsing, simple file
editing, etc can be done there.  My first Debian machine was a 486 dx2 66 with
16 megs of ram and a 800mb (top of the line for the time) hard drive.


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masqmail problem

[Brian Schramm]

OK.  I have changed the mailer from sendmail to
masqmail.  I had a problem with sendmail not working
right on my machine.  I tried exim and that did not
work either.  My needs are simple.  I have one phone
line dedicated as a modem line for my computer's
internet access.  I have had this type of a setup for
years and never had any trouble with it.  In the past
year I had some hardware problems so I fixed them and
got a fresh install of Debian Woody on the machine. 
It is update every week.  

To make a long story short, I have had a lot of
trouble getting my email.  So much so that I have set
up the family on yahoo.  I decided that I need to get
my mail up on my machine so I installed masqmail.  As
soon as I did, fetchmail started pulling mail into my
system!  But I cannot get it to send now.  I am
figureing that I do not have a setting right but I
have not found that setting yet.  

Can someone help with the settings?  I figure that is
all I need to change and I will have my email working
again.  

Thank you in advance for any help rendered.

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Re: HP DeskJet 610C

[Mario Vukelic]

On Mon, 2002-05-13 at 01:07, andrej hocevar wrote:

> Based on my experience one can configure and adjust some programs
> more easily than others -- so you use those you can figure out,
> right?

Has been known to happen, yes

> So which are the main reasons for
> choosing CUPS? 
> Since you were answering someone trying to set things up, would it
> be the ease of configuration?

Partly yes. Web-based administration. Partly, because it was a driver
issue and CUPS can use gimp-print drivers. I don't know if lpr/lprng
can, but I know CUPS does.

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Re: Don't install lvm2!

[Andres Salomon]

Welcome to beta packages.  :)  A fix for this is up at
http://chunk.mp3revolution.net/lvm2 (apt-gettable); They'll be uploaded
tonight.  Feel free to try 'em out and provide feedback before they're
uploaded.

As for the really-bad-shape part; they work for me (tm); I don't have a
system w/ /usr on a separate partition.  I apologize for the bug, but
they happen.


On Sun, May 12, 2002 at 10:08:57PM +0200, Andreas Rottmann wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> 
> I just want to put out a warning since I messed up my system today
> just by installing lvm2. I already filed a bug (#146754) and there is
> a related one (#146257).
> 
> The problem is that /sbin/lvm, which is symlinked to by the varous LVM
> utils is linked against a library in /usr (libdevmapper), which may
> (and is likely to) be on an LVM managed filesystem. Thus one can't
> boot and must either get that library from somewhere else and put it
> in /lib/ or revert to lvm10 somehow.
> 
> I cleaned up the mess by creating tarfiles of the lvm10 and lvm-common
> .debs (excluding the usr/ parts) and untarring those on the system,
> then fixing the symlinks in /sbin/. Then one can boot without failure
> and 'apt-get install lvm10' to get things in shape again.
> 
> Furthermore the LVM init script uses tools not (on every system)
> available in the root FS (at least awk). This is bug #146257.
> 
> So everebody TAKE CARE AND DO _NOT_ INSTALL LVM2!!! This package is in
> a really bad shape and WILL RENDER YOUR SYSTEM UNUSABLE (given /usr is
> on a logical volume, which I guess is a common configuration). For
> recovery intructions see above.
> 
> I hope the maintainer stands up and fixes this soon.
> 
> Regards, Andy
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Re: dselect doesn't list Woody packages

[Jerome Acks Jr]

On Sat, May 11, 2002 at 03:21:20PM -0700, Rob Mosher wrote:
> Hi,
> I recently made the update from Potato to Woody, yet for some
> reason in dselect it does not list all of the packages availible
> for Woody. I've run apt-get update (invoked from dselect and
> otherwise) but this hasn't helped. If I look up a package at
> http://packages.debian.org/testing/ I can get it with apt, and
> it will then show up as installed in dselect, but unistalled
> packages just don't show up in the list. Any ideas on how I can
> get dselect to list all the packages availible to me?
> 

Hi Rob,
Check configuration files in /etc/apt or /etc/dpkg to see if one of
them has an option limiting what is displayed in dselect, or sets
dselect to use stable/potato. One posibility is /etc/apt/preferences. If
Pin-Priority for testing/woody is set below 100, dselect will probably
behave as you describe. My /etc/preferences is:

Package: *
Pin: release a=testing
Pin-Priority: 900

Package: *
Pin: release a=unstable
Pin-Priority: 90

Package: *
Pin: release a=stable
Pin-Priority: 600

I can use apt-get to install unstable/sid packages, but sid packages
are not listed by dselect unless they are installed.

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Re: Small footprint window manager

[John Hasler]

Ron Johnson writes:
> Isn't this all rather academic, since Miroslav has a _386_ with only
> SIXTEEN MB RAM?  Running X would be folly!!

I used to run X on a 386/33 with 8MB.  Slow, but usable.
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Re: Symbios 53c1010 chip quetion.

[Jamin W . Collins]

On Mon, 13 May 2002 01:54:38 +0300 (EET DST)
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I have onboard dual Ultra 160 LVD SCSI with LSI Symbios 53c1010 chip
> and also dual Socet 370 Intel Pentium III processors. I want to install
> (from CD with Woody) Debian on my machine. How do include the support 
> of SCSI disk? Do standard kernels with pool (2.4.18+SMP or 2.2.20+SMP)
> support sym53c1010 controller? What options do I shall have to include
> in kernel during recompilation it in my configuration?

Looks like this chip uses the "sym53c8xx" kernel module.  The default
kernel for Woody is 2.2.20 with appears to have this driver built in:

grep -i sym53c8xx config-2.2.20 
CONFIG_SCSI_SYM53C8XX=y

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Symbios 53c1010 chip quetion.

[petrov]

Hi All!
I have onboard dual Ultra 160 LVD SCSI with LSI Symbios 53c1010 chip
and also dual Socet 370 Intel Pentium III processors. I want to install
(from CD with Woody) Debian on my machine. How do include the support 
of SCSI disk? Do standard kernels with pool (2.4.18+SMP or 2.2.20+SMP)
support sym53c1010 controller? What options do I shall have to include
in kernel during recompilation it in my configuration?
Thanx.



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Re: HP DeskJet 610C

[Ron Johnson]

On Sun, 2002-05-12 at 18:07, andrej hocevar wrote:
> On Sun, May 12, 2002 at 08:15:16PM +0200, Mario Vukelic wrote:
> > You could try to use CUPS
> 
> Could someone tell me why use CUPS instead of lpr/lprng? 

The web-based administration is very simple.
 
> Based on my experience one can configure and adjust some programs
> more easily than others -- so you use those you can figure out,
> right? Unless of course, you need some features included only in
> some other program, you'll be happy with a working computer. I've
> never had problems with lpr/lprng. So which are the main reasons for
> choosing CUPS? 
> Since you were answering someone trying to set things up, would it
> be the ease of configuration? 
> 
> N.B.: I have had no problems with lpr/lprng. (See my previous mail.)

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tool to extract SZDD files?

[Bruno Boettcher]

Hello!

i am  confronted with a windows program compressend in a M$ special
fashion. there are lots of .tx_ etc files i want to extract,
  anything to do this?
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Re: Small footprint window manager

[Ron Johnson]

On Sat, 2002-05-11 at 20:08, craigw wrote:
> On Sat May 11, 2002 at 11:57:19PM +0200, Mario Vukelic wrote:
> > On Sat, 2002-05-11 at 23:37, Miroslav Mazurek wrote:
> > > 
> > > I need som recomendation for some realy small footprint window manager 
> > > (it 
> > > should run on 386/16MB). What's best choice?
> > 
> > Choose: http://www.plig.org/xwinman/others.html
> > 
> > blackbox is nice, as is icewm. Personally I always recommend to at least
> > try Ion http://www.students.tut.fi/~tuomov/ion/ (on any machine, 386 or
> > P4). It needs some getting used to since it's a totally different
> > approach (and handles multi-window apps like gimp rather badly) but wow,
> > is it cool. Also a great choice for smaller screens (laptops)
> > -- 
> I highly recommend blackbox, fluxbox, & icewm.
> 
> I have never tried ion, but there is another nice, unusual, and
> extremely lightweight & easily configurable (keybindings & such) window
> manager called pwm:
> http://www.students.tut.fi/~tuomov/pwm/
> For some reason, I had the feeling that pwm had evolved from ion, but
> when I went to retrieve that link just now, I see it calls ion 
> "A keyboard friendly window manager based on PWM."

Isn't this all rather academic, since Miroslav has a _386_ with
only SIXTEEN MB RAM?  Running X would be folly!!  Not only is the
CPU old and slow, but so is the RAM, HDD, video card, etc.  And 
the HDD will tiny!!!

Stick with text.  Maybe TWIN would suffice.
  http://linuz.sns.it/~max/twin/
  http://sourceforge.net/projects/twin/

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Re: Evolution has no help or email properties

[Dale Hair]

 
> Under KDE Control Center/File Browsing/File Associations I don't find
> any mention of ghelp.  It does list HTML files, which are associated
> with my browser.  I've looked through the list and compared it to my
> laptop, which is also running Debian testing, and I find no difference. 
> Am I looking in the wrong place?

I don't know much about KDE.  I expect ghelp to be part of the gnome
desktop.  You might try the ximian evolution list, evolution@ximian.com
if you don't want to subscribe.


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Re: Colors in term?

[Hans Ekbrand]

On Thu, May 09, 2002 at 09:36:44PM +0200, Jan Johansson wrote:
> > What's the value of the TERM environment variable?  
> > env|grep TERM should tell you, at least under bash.
> 
> TERM=vt220
> 
> BitchX gives me color tho. but MC, ls and stuff does not.  

~>infocmp vt220 | grep color

~>infocmp | grep color 
colors#8, cols#132, it#8, lines#24, pairs#64,

~/doc/musik>infocmp ansi-color-2-emx | grep color
#   Reconstructed via infocmp from file:
/usr/share/terminfo/a/ansi-color-2-emx
ansi-color-2-emx|ANSI.SYS color 2,
colors#16, cols#80, it#8, lines#25, pairs#64,

I have no colors on my (real) vt 320, has (a real) vt 220 colors?

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Re: Video Editing

[Sven Hoexter]

On Sun, May 12, 2002 at 06:39:26PM +0100, Hereward Cooper wrote:
> ** I'm off list so please CC: me!
> 
> Does anyone know of some video editing software that can chop some
> frames from a DivX avi? The only ones I have seen do camcorder stuff.
There is no good software for linux avaible atm.
I use the windos box from my brother with the free software from sf.net
called VirtualDub.

Maybe if you get it managed to install the divx codec under wine you can
run VDub with wine ...

840kb of real good Windows software ;))

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Re: HP DeskJet 610C

[dman]

On Sun, May 12, 2002 at 01:12:52PM +0200, Björn Lindström wrote:
| Has anyone got the printer HP DeskJet 610C working in Debian?

Yep, it works quite well with CUPS and the cupsomatic-ppd package.
The only problem is a little clipping on the left margin.  I haven't
tried to work it out yet (and probably won't, it's not that big of a
deal in my situation).

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gFTP

[Patrick Lane]

Is it just me, or does anyone else have stability problems with gFTP? It
crashes on me often.

I'm using testing, kernel 2.4.18, nvidia X driver, everything
up-to-date.

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Re: Evolution has no help or email properties

[Daniel D Jones]

On Sun, 2002-05-12 at 13:36, Dale Hair wrote:
> On Sun, 2002-05-12 at 07:17, Daniel D Jones wrote:
> > Running Evolution 1.0.3 on Debian testing.  Whenever I click on any of 
> > the "Help" topics, nothing is happens.  I can go to
> > /usr/share/gnome/help/evolution/C/index.html and
> > the file is present.  I can double click it in a file manager or enter
> > it manually in the browser's path and it opens fine.  But selecting any
> > "Help" menu item does nothing.
> 
> It used to display in galeon for me until galeon quit working, error
> message /usr/lib/libgtkembedmoz.so: undefined symbol:
> GetFlatBufferHandle__C10nsACString.  Anyway, using Gnome, in the Control
> Center I changed  Document Handlers > URL Handlers to
> 
> ghelp gnome-moz-remote --newwin %s

Under KDE Control Center/File Browsing/File Associations I don't find
any mention of ghelp.  It does list HTML files, which are associated
with my browser.  I've looked through the list and compared it to my
laptop, which is also running Debian testing, and I find no difference. 
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Re: HP DeskJet 610C

[Joachim Fahnenmueller]

On Sun, May 12, 2002 at 01:12:52PM +0200, Björn Lindström wrote:
> Has anyone got the printer HP DeskJet 610C working in Debian?
> 
> It is not listed by magicfilterconfig, so I have tried some
> other DeskJet filters, but none of them work.
> 
> What do I do now?

Hi Björn,

I got it with apsfilter (IIRC the driver for HP DJ 670). Far better, though not 
free software, is turboprint (http://www.turboprint.de). With this, the printer 
works even much better than in windoze.

HTH, Joachim

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Re: HP DeskJet 610C

[Kevin C. Smith]

On Sun, May 12, 2002 at 01:12:52PM +0200, Bj?rn Lindstr?m wrote:
> Has anyone got the printer HP DeskJet 610C working in Debian?
> 
> It is not listed by magicfilterconfig, so I have tried some
> other DeskJet filters, but none of them work.
> 
> What do I do now?
> 

If you wish to use magicfilter: choose the hp550 filter. It works fine.

Or you can use lprngtool, and set your printcap up with that. It also
work fine. Just switched to using lprngtool a week ago with the same
printer. Used magicfilter before.

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Problems installing with A7A266 mobo

[Astardok]

I am having some problems getting Debian to install 
on my system.  Actually, it is one specific problem that keeps on popping 
up again and again.  I don't know if anyone can help me out, but I figure 
it's worth asking.
 
The problem is, when I try to install Debian on my 
system, either from the boot floppies or from the full ISO off the net (the most 
recent ISO as of about 5 days ago), I get an error while it's loading the 
installation kernel.  It says:
 
keyboard timeout: AT keyboard not 
detected
 
I ran into the same problem about a half year or so 
ago, last time I tried to install Debian on my machine.  My keyboard will 
function perfectly fine until the kernel starts to boot, then it refuses to 
respond; even numlock won't turn on or off.
 
 
If you think you might be able to help, here's some 
quick details about my system.  It's a 1.2GHz Athlon system with an ASUS 
A7A266 motherboard, with 256 of DDR ram.  It installed Mandrake 7 fine 
several months ago, though attempts at installing SuSE or Debian have failed due 
to the same error.
 
One thing I did notice when running the latest ISO, 
was that the "bootfloppy" portion of the install was still dated as of 
mid-2001.  I don't know if maybe that might be why, maybe an outdated boot 
kernel or something - though I don't know how to resolve that.
 
Anyway, any ideas are welcome.  
Thanks!
 
- Paul Goins
Windows / (Wannabe) Linux 
Developer

Don't install lvm2!

[Andreas Rottmann]

Hi!

I just want to put out a warning since I messed up my system today
just by installing lvm2. I already filed a bug (#146754) and there is
a related one (#146257).

The problem is that /sbin/lvm, which is symlinked to by the varous LVM
utils is linked against a library in /usr (libdevmapper), which may
(and is likely to) be on an LVM managed filesystem. Thus one can't
boot and must either get that library from somewhere else and put it
in /lib/ or revert to lvm10 somehow.

I cleaned up the mess by creating tarfiles of the lvm10 and lvm-common
.debs (excluding the usr/ parts) and untarring those on the system,
then fixing the symlinks in /sbin/. Then one can boot without failure
and 'apt-get install lvm10' to get things in shape again.

Furthermore the LVM init script uses tools not (on every system)
available in the root FS (at least awk). This is bug #146257.

So everebody TAKE CARE AND DO _NOT_ INSTALL LVM2!!! This package is in
a really bad shape and WILL RENDER YOUR SYSTEM UNUSABLE (given /usr is
on a logical volume, which I guess is a common configuration). For
recovery intructions see above.

I hope the maintainer stands up and fixes this soon.

Regards, Andy
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Re: HP DeskJet 610C

[andrej hocevar]

On Sun, May 12, 2002 at 08:15:16PM +0200, Mario Vukelic wrote:
> You could try to use CUPS

Could someone tell me why use CUPS instead of lpr/lprng? 

Based on my experience one can configure and adjust some programs
more easily than others -- so you use those you can figure out,
right? Unless of course, you need some features included only in
some other program, you'll be happy with a working computer. I've
never had problems with lpr/lprng. So which are the main reasons for
choosing CUPS? 
Since you were answering someone trying to set things up, would it
be the ease of configuration? 

N.B.: I have had no problems with lpr/lprng. (See my previous mail.)

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Re: linksys pc card FIXED

[Seneca]

On Sun, May 12, 2002 at 11:42:34AM -0400, Michael P. Soulier wrote:
> On 11/05/02 Michael P. Soulier did speaketh:
> 
> > Hey people,
> > 
> > Is anyone using the Linksys EtherFast 10/100 PC card, model PCMPC100, in
> > their laptop under Debian? I can't get this one working, using the version
> > 0.93 tulip driver. I borrowed a 3Com card that works beautifully, 
> > autodetected
> > and all by the card manager. 
> 
> I just installed a 2.4.18 kernel, and the card manager automagickally
> loaded the axnet_cs module, which works perfectly with this card.

What did you do to get the axnet_cs module to work perfectly with the
card? I've got a PCMPC100v3 (the one that uses axnet_cs), and it works
fine for 0.5-24h, but then the kernel starts complaining (and I am also
using a 2.4.18 kernel). The only way after that happens that I can get
back online is to reinsert the card.

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Re: Galeon quit working

[Dale Hair]

On Sun, 2002-05-12 at 13:14, Mario Vukelic wrote:
> On Sun, 2002-05-12 at 20:05, Dale Hair wrote:
> 
> > /usr/bin/galeon-bin: relocation error: /usr/lib/libgtkembedmoz.so:
> > undefined symbol: GetFlatBufferHandle__C10nsACString 
> 
> Did you upgrade mozilla?

I relied on apt-get dist-upgrade to handle dependences.

I just tried galeon again on the testing only box and it works today, I
got the same error message on it yesterday.  So now I downgraded the
testing/unstable box to testing.  I'm not sure the proper/best way to do
this, but I apt-get remove galeon mozilla mozilla-psm libnss3 libnspr4 (
I think that was all) and apt-get install the same with -t testing.  I
am now at the testing versions and still get the same error.


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Re: HP DeskJet 610C

[andrej hocevar]

On Sun, May 12, 2002 at 01:12:52PM +0200, Bj?rn Lindstr?m wrote:
> Has anyone got the printer HP DeskJet 610C working in Debian?
> 
> It is not listed by magicfilterconfig, so I have tried some
> other DeskJet filters, but none of them work.

Yes, I have one, works well with the dj690c filter. However, I used
to have two filters for that one installed (the other one being
dj550c) -- just until now! Once my friend I share the flat with (and
that printer on our small network) discovered it won't print plain 
text. With the other filter we could print plain text as well. 
Since we also have a Laserjet III, I didn't bother much -- but now
in reply to your answer I've checked the magicfilters. Compare the
last lines of /etc/magicfilter/dj550c-filter and dj690c-filter:
you'll see the 690 uses "djscript" for plain text while the other
doesn't -- and it wasn't installed. :)
You can experiment with different filters, more will work. Since I
print mostly .dvi and .ps files, I've found out that prints with the
dj690c filter were better aligned.

ps: Works with lpr(ng)

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examples for hotplug manager?

[Martin Maciaszek]

I'm trying to set up the hotplug manager to start pppd on ttyUSB1 whenever 
my Palm shows up on the bus. I finde the documentation a bit terse. Can 
someone provide me with some examples?


Cheers
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NIC logging?

[Alex Hunsley]

I want to debug my NIC, so I've changed the appropriate line in /etc/modules
to:

3c59x debug=6

which turns debugging onto a maximum. I've restarted the machine, now the
question is: where are the debug messages going? I can't find much in /var/logs
apart from standard messages about the module being loaded

thanks
alex


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Re: HP DeskJet 610C

[Ted]

Björn Lindström wrote:


Has anyone got the printer HP DeskJet 610C working in Debian?

It is not listed by magicfilterconfig, so I have tried some
other DeskJet filters, but none of them work.

What do I do now?




Hi..
I have my hp610c working using printtool..It is better in linux than xp 
pro...First class colour and layout


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Re: HP DeskJet 610C

[Andreas Eichner]

Am Sonntag, 12. Mai 2002 13:12 schrieb Björn Lindström:
> Has anyone got the printer HP DeskJet 610C working in Debian?

I have an HP Deskjet 615C. Works fine with CUPS and it's filters for the 
Deskjet 670. May also work with your 610C. Test it.

Have fun!


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Re: HP DeskJet 610C

[Mario Vukelic]

On Sun, 2002-05-12 at 13:12, Björn Lindström wrote:
> Has anyone got the printer HP DeskJet 610C working in Debian?
> 
> It is not listed by magicfilterconfig, so I have tried some
> other DeskJet filters, but none of them work.
> 
> What do I do now?

You could try to use CUPS
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Re: Galeon quit working

[Mario Vukelic]

On Sun, 2002-05-12 at 20:05, Dale Hair wrote:

> /usr/bin/galeon-bin: relocation error: /usr/lib/libgtkembedmoz.so:
> undefined symbol: GetFlatBufferHandle__C10nsACString 

Did you upgrade mozilla?
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How to get working xpdf in Alpha Netscape 4.7

[Jeffrey Chimene]

Originally posted on debian-alpha@lists.debian.org

Hi:

This is probably the wrong list, but in Netscape 4.7, how does one get
working Netscape applications? Are they not supported on Alpha version
of this
product? It seems that other platforms (VMS, Win, &c) all one does is
update the Netscape applications entry.


I'm trying to add xpdf. I've tried /usr/bin/xpdf, xpdf %s, /usr/bin/xpdf
%s, &c all to no avail. I also tried an application definition along the
lines
of "xpdf %s /dev/null 2>&1" but this also produces no results. There are
no other examples of applications in the Netscape distribution. xpdf
does work, and is installed in /usr/bin.

I've tried loading a pdf using "open page", but all I get is "document
loaded" message, a blank screen, no xpdf window.

Could this be a privlege issue? Perhaps lusers don't get applications
under Netscape... I'm going to investigate this line of attack.

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Galeon quit working

[Dale Hair]

After last dist-upgrade on two machines Galeon quit working.  One is
running testing with galeon from unstable, the other is testing only. 
When I try to run it from xterm I get 

/usr/bin/galeon-bin: relocation error: /usr/lib/libgtkembedmoz.so:
undefined symbol: GetFlatBufferHandle__C10nsACString 


I hope there is a fix for this. Now I'm using opera, pretty nice and
there is even a deb package, but I miss galeon.


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HP DeskJet 610C

[Björn Lindström]

Has anyone got the printer HP DeskJet 610C working in Debian?

It is not listed by magicfilterconfig, so I have tried some
other DeskJet filters, but none of them work.

What do I do now?

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Video Editing

[Hereward Cooper]

** I'm off list so please CC: me!

Does anyone know of some video editing software that can chop some
frames from a DivX avi? The only ones I have seen do camcorder stuff.

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Re: Evolution has no help or email properties

[Dale Hair]

On Sun, 2002-05-12 at 07:17, Daniel D Jones wrote:
> Running Evolution 1.0.3 on Debian testing.  Whenever I click on any of 
> the "Help" topics, nothing is happens.  I can go to
> /usr/share/gnome/help/evolution/C/index.html and
> the file is present.  I can double click it in a file manager or enter
> it manually in the browser's path and it opens fine.  But selecting any
> "Help" menu item does nothing.

It used to display in galeon for me until galeon quit working, error
message /usr/lib/libgtkembedmoz.so: undefined symbol:
GetFlatBufferHandle__C10nsACString.  Anyway, using Gnome, in the Control
Center I changed  Document Handlers > URL Handlers to

ghelp   gnome-moz-remote --newwin %s

Now it displays in mozilla.  It is probably similar in KDE.  

> The same thing (which is absolutely nothing) happens if I open an email
> and select the "Properties" item under the "Edit" menu.  I'm not sure if
> these problems are related or not.

I'm sure this is the same thing,  mine displays Control Center > HTML
Viewer > Fonts


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Re: Getting a stable LVM for woody

[Osamu Aoki]

Hi,
On Sun, May 12, 2002 at 03:07:34AM -0700, Alexander Konovalenko wrote:
> I would like to install a more-or-less production quality 
> version of LVM with woody on i386.
I was thinking in the same line :)
> Sistina.com says that the latest stable release of LVM is 
> 1.0.4, while both 1.1-rc2 and LVM2 are beta versions.
> 
> But the current situation with LVM packages is as follows:
>  * potato contains lvm 0.8i-1
>  * woody has lvm10 1.1rc1-2 and lvm-common 1.5.5
>  * unstable contains lvm2 0.95.05-2
So you are looking at lvm10

> Was version 1.0.4 packaged for Debian by the lvm maintainer? 
> (Robert (rvdm), are you that maintainer?)

Look at changelog.debian in /usr/share/doc/lvm10.  It was tracking 1.0.1
up to 1.0.1release-1 then startied to track 1.1. Latest entry say:

lvm10 (1.1rc1-2) unstable; urgency=high

  * Fixed lvmsadc lock bug (Closes: #139169)
  * Fixed lvm name check bug (Closes: #140957)
  * lvm is been working fine with debian kernels a while now (Closes: #122753)

 -- Robert van der Meulen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  Mon, 29 Apr 2002 12:14:20 +0200

Considering woody is freeze mode after around May1, this is very new.  

As usual, he is not blindly following upstream but keep applying local
patch.  It is second build (1.1rc1-2) With last statement it sounds
good to me.

> Is there a place from where the (source) package(s), preferably
> official, can be fetched?

$ apt-get source lvm10
$ mc
...
# apt-get -d install lvm10 # provided you set up deb-src on sources.list
# cd /var/cache/apt/archives; mc
...

If you did not know these basics, read "Debian reference" available on
debian server:
   http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/

> Cc: rvdm at debian org
> Do You Yahoo!?
> LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience
> http://launch.yahoo.com
Of you want to get response from maintainer, use real address.
If you use these free mail account, you may be filtered as possible
spam.  Sad but ...
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Re: Apt-get upgrade holding back

[steve downes]

Many thanks Daniel, Clearly correct & I have installed all the held
packages & they all had additional packages to install.

Regards

Steve

On Sun, May 12, 2002 at 07:42:47AM -0400, Daniel D Jones wrote:
> On Sun, 2002-05-12 at 05:48, steve downes wrote:
> > Apt-get upgrade is holding back a number of packages without giving a
> > reason. It seems to have them on hold & a few days later it still has
> > them on hold.
> > 
> > Had a look in logs etc & cant find any reason. Anybody know why &
> > ideally what I can do about it.
> > 
> > Packages are
> > 
> > 
> > abiword afterstep gettext gimp1.2 initrd-tool libwine rpm wine
> > scrollkeeper xpdf
> 
> My understanding is that packages are held back if updating requires
> them to install additional packages - that is, a package that wasn't
> required when the app was originally installed is now required.  You can
> fix it by apt-get installing the packages again.
> 


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Re: X just locks up

[Michael P. Soulier]

On 11/05/02 Michael P. Soulier did speaketh:

> Mine didn't get that far. The screen just blanks. No desktop, nothing.

Hmm. A friend on a local LUG mailing list just told me that S3 chipsets
under X4 have problems, and that there was a recent fix. I guess I'll go look
for that. 

Mike

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Re: linksys pc card FIXED

[Michael P. Soulier]

On 11/05/02 Michael P. Soulier did speaketh:

> Hey people,
> 
> Is anyone using the Linksys EtherFast 10/100 PC card, model PCMPC100, in
> their laptop under Debian? I can't get this one working, using the version
> 0.93 tulip driver. I borrowed a 3Com card that works beautifully, autodetected
> and all by the card manager. 

I just installed a 2.4.18 kernel, and the card manager automagickally
loaded the axnet_cs module, which works perfectly with this card.

Mike

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OpenOffice installation problem with XFree4

[Jan Willem Stumpel]

It seems that with XFree4, OpenOffice will work in one of two
circumstances:

a) "load freetype" is set in XF86Config-4
b) "load xtt" is set AND an font server is active.

If "load xtt" is set and a font server is NOT active,
OpenOffice goes (on my system) into a "weird" state.

What I want is:

- OpenOffice should work;
- Truetype fonts (msttcorefonts) should be usable in OO;
- In Mozilla, I want to be able to display Japanese using
  MS (actually, Ricoh) Japanese truetype fonts;
- In Mozilla, Japanese e-mail (both headers and e-mail
  bodies) should be readably displayed (bodies with
  truetype);
- and preferably, everything should be displayed with
  anti-aliasing.

Now I tried (I think) everything, and have run out of things
to try. I can fulfill at most 3 points of the above list. Who can
help? Things are described in more detail at

.

regards, Jan



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Re: Small footprint window manager

[ktb]

On Sat, May 11, 2002 at 11:37:37PM +0200, Miroslav Mazurek wrote:
> 
> I need som recomendation for some realy small footprint window manager (it 
> should run on 386/16MB). What's best choice?
> 

Take a look at PWM.  Has great customizable keyboard support.  It also
allows you to stick windows together and then quickly iterate though
them.  http://www.students.tut.fi/~tuomov/pwm/
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Re: paralel cable

[Mirek Dobsicek]

Thanx,
 I setup it, but something goes wrong ...

I'm able to ping between machines few times
but soon or later it ends with

plip0: transmit timeout (1,87)
(this message I see on laptop)

I think the cable is OK, coz I'm trasnfering files on him
between windows without problems 


sure, my notebook has serial port, but why use serial
when have paralel with cable 


Mirek


Elizabeth Barham wrote:

Hi Mirek,

There is plip. It's IP via parallel port.

HOWTO 

I'm surprised your notebook does not have a serial port. If it does,
you can purchase a NULL serial cable for communications.

Elizabeth

Mirek Dobsicek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:



Greetings,

I've just succeded installing PotatoR6 on an old laptop (486/66, 8MB 
RAM, 510 HDD).


I've installed base system using floppies ... uff, it was pain.
Then I coppied debs of vim and mc to next floppies and installed
vim and mc using dpkg -i . It took me about 3 hours.
50MB off HDD is used now ... sounds good.

I'd like to add more packages but not using floppies anymore.

The notebook does not have network card, either modem. So I have
to use parallel cable and connect it to my "big" machine.

And here comes my questions:
What to setup, config and run on notebook and big machine
to be able to on the notebook then simply type

apt-get install 


If this task is too hard to do, it would also fine if I could
downloaded debs on my big machine transfer using paralel cable
to notebook.









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Re: affichage déporté

[Joop Stakenborg]

On Sunday 12 May 2002 11:39, Antoine Jacoutot wrote:
> Bonjour,
>
> J'ai un petit pbm pour déporté mon affichage X.
> Sur le poste ou mon serveur X tourne, j'ai fait "xhost +".
> Sur le client, je lance l'applicarion "xterm -display serveur:0"
> Et il me dit "Can't open display: serveur:0.
> Quelqu'un aurait-il une idée pour remédier à ce problème, car à part un
> xhost +, je ne vois pas ce que je peux faire.
>

Please, can you try english?

> Merci.
>
> Antoine


Joop


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sparc headers??

[Michael P. Soulier]

Ok, I just tried to install kernel-headers-2.2.18pre21, and it installed
kernel-headers-2.2.18pre21-sparc. I'm on a Celeron! What the hell??

Mike

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Re: usb permissions + export display

[Jan Exss]

On Sun, 12 May 2002, Colin Watson wrote:

> On Sun, May 12, 2002 at 02:39:43PM +0200, Jan Exss wrote:
> >
> > I seriously recommend to use ssh instead of unencrypted X11 connections.
>
> Seconded.
>
> > Please use ssh instead. Try
> >
> > $ ssh -x client
>
> Minor correction: that should be 'ssh -X client', at least with openssh.
>
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>

Sure. Thank you for the comment.

$ ssh -x client

forces ssh to NOT forward X11, even if requested by default. I usually
modify /etc/ssh/ssh(d)_config, so that I don't have to use any option at
all and so I always mix the options when forced to use one ;-)

Thanks, Colin.


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Re: problems with cyrus (sid) on woody

[Carel Fellinger]

On Fri, May 10, 2002 at 06:39:52PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I have installed the cyrus-Server from sid on a debian woody installation:

How did you manage?
Whatever I try, I can't get authorisation to work:(

...
> For whatever reason, I seem to have problems with some permission:
...
> user Zulu  
> +OK Name is a valid mailbox
> pass ***
> -ERR [SYS/PERM] Unable to open maildrop

Mayby a stupid thought, but did you set the acl rights on the mailbox?
like with cyradm: sam Zulu Zulu all


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Re: usb permissions + export display

[Colin Watson]

On Sun, May 12, 2002 at 02:39:43PM +0200, Jan Exss wrote:
> On 12 May 2002, Antoine Jacoutot wrote:
> > 2. I want to export my display on anothre computer. On the server
> > running X, I issued the following command: "xhost +", and on the client,
> > when I launch an application, like "xterm -display server:0", I get this
> > error message: "xterl Xt error: Can't open display: server:0".
> 
> I seriously recommend to use ssh instead of unencrypted X11 connections.

Seconded.

> Please use ssh instead. Try
> 
> $ ssh -x client

Minor correction: that should be 'ssh -X client', at least with openssh.

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Re: usb permissions + export display

[Jan Exss]

On 12 May 2002, Antoine Jacoutot wrote:

> 1. When I plug my didgital usb camera, I can only access it under root,
> not as a regular user. I know this is because /proc/bus/usb/000/...
> entries are accessible only by root, and I can't change it since as soon
> as I re-plug my camera, the permissions are back only for root.

I had the same problem and decided to install the USB perimssion daemon by
myself, because I couldn't find any Debian package to deal with that
problem. Take a look at

http://www.xena.uklinux.net/Linux/usb_perms.html

The init script is made for SuSE I think, so you must create one by
yourself.

> 2. I want to export my display on anothre computer. On the server
> running X, I issued the following command: "xhost +", and on the client,
> when I launch an application, like "xterm -display server:0", I get this
> error message: "xterl Xt error: Can't open display: server:0".

I seriously recommend to use ssh instead of unencrypted X11 connections.

However, It seems that your X server has been started with the "-nolisten
tcp" option for security reasons. Are you using "gdm"? Look at
/etc/gdm/gdm.conf. Using xdm? Try /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers. Change the line
that starts the X server you are dealing with (probably :0).

Please use ssh instead. Try

$ ssh -x client

and look at

$ echo $DISPLAY

It should look like "localhost:10" or so. If not, enable X11 forwarding in
/etc/ssh/sshd_config at the X11 clients side. When done, just type
"xterm".

Hope this will help you. If not, request more details.


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Evolution has no help or email properties

[Daniel D Jones]

Running Evolution 1.0.3 on Debian testing.  Whenever I click on any of 
the "Help" topics, nothing is happens.  I can go to
/usr/share/gnome/help/evolution/C/index.html and
the file is present.  I can double click it in a file manager or enter
it manually in the browser's path and it opens fine.  But selecting any
"Help" menu item does nothing.

The same thing (which is absolutely nothing) happens if I open an email
and select the "Properties" item under the "Edit" menu.  I'm not sure if
these problems are related or not.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.





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Re: File size limit exceeded

[Ian D. Stewart]

On 2002.05.12 02:16 Dr. Christoph H. LARSEN wrote:

Everything went
well, until I wanted to format a hard drive. By then mkfs.ext2,
mkfs.ext3, mkfs.reiserfs, and even mkfs.vfat and mkfs.msdos gave me
the
error message:
File size limit exceeded
As this error has never occured prior to my recent library update I
presume that there must be a bug in the latter. Any idea how to fix or
avoid it?


Run lsof (should reside in /usr/sbin/lsof) to get a list of the open 
files.  I ran into this problem because wmheader (which runs once every 
30 minutes) failed to clean up after itself.  If you find you have 
similiar problem, you'll need to kill the running processes then remove 
the cron entry (look in /etc/cron.d, /etc/cron.daily and 
/etc/cron.weekly).



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Re: Problems with display on VIA chipset motherboard

[Paolo Alexis Falcone]

Thus spake shyamk last Sun, May 12, 2002 at 02:36:31PM +0530:
> I use a AMD-Duron processor on a  VIA chipset motherboard ,
> I installed the S3Virge stuff that came with
> the CD supplied by my vendor ,and now am having some problems 
> with the display.
> 
> o In XWindows , my ps/2 mouse pointer hangs after lurking in the corners
> ofthe screen.

Did you load gpm, or at least configured X to use gpm as the mouse
driver? If you plan to use gpm, edit the XF86Config (or XF86Config-4)
file to use gpm as the mouse driver.
 
> o zgv , text-console - based picture viewer , shows either a blank
> screen for JPG or a white screen for GIF !

what video card are you using? and what version of X? It might be a
problem on driver compatibility. I suggest you configure X properly.

> Strange , Windoze does not seem to be causing
> this much of a headache.
> Can somebody please help me out ?
> 
> Thanks,
> Shyam
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Re: Apt-get upgrade holding back

[Colin Watson]

On Sun, May 12, 2002 at 10:48:04AM +0100, steve downes wrote:
> Apt-get upgrade is holding back a number of packages without giving a
> reason.

The upgrade method is designed to hold back packages if dependencies
change. Try dist-upgrade instead.

You can find out exactly what's going on using '-o
Debug::pkgProblemResolver=1', but the output may not be very easy to
understand. You might want to consider using a real frontend like
dselect or aptitude instead.

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Getting a stable LVM for woody

[Alexander Konovalenko]

I would like to install a more-or-less production quality 
version of LVM with woody on i386.

Sistina.com says that the latest stable release of LVM is 
1.0.4, while both 1.1-rc2 and LVM2 are beta versions.

But the current situation with LVM packages is as follows:
 * potato contains lvm 0.8i-1
 * woody has lvm10 1.1rc1-2 and lvm-common 1.5.5
 * unstable contains lvm2 0.95.05-2

Was version 1.0.4 packaged for Debian by the lvm maintainer? 
(Robert (rvdm), are you that maintainer?)

Is there a place from where the (source) package(s), preferably
official, can be fetched?

If no, could the maintainer please put (an) appropriate .deb(s) 
of 1.0.4 on a web site?

Thank you for help,
  Alexander Konovalenko.

Cc: rvdm at debian org



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Apt-get upgrade holding back

[steve downes]

Apt-get upgrade is holding back a number of packages without giving a
reason. It seems to have them on hold & a few days later it still has
them on hold.

Had a look in logs etc & cant find any reason. Anybody know why &
ideally what I can do about it.

Packages are


abiword afterstep gettext gimp1.2 initrd-tool libwine rpm wine
scrollkeeper xpdf


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usb permissions + export display

[Antoine Jacoutot]

Hello everybody !

I'm new to Debian but not (quite!) to Linux.
I used to run RedHat, and today I'm under Woody. I have to little
problems that I never had to deal with under RH:

1. When I plug my didgital usb camera, I can only access it under root,
not as a regular user. I know this is because /proc/bus/usb/000/...
entries are accessible only by root, and I can't change it since as soon
as I re-plug my camera, the permissions are back only for root. Someone
mentionned the hotplug package (right now, I'm using usbmgr, I don't
really know the difference), but I read the manual and didn't see
anything helpfull regarding my problem.

2. I want to export my display on anothre computer. On the server
running X, I issued the following command: "xhost +", and on the client,
when I launch an application, like "xterm -display server:0", I get this
error message: "xterl Xt error: Can't open display: server:0".
Isn't it odd since my X server is supposed to accept connections from
any host ?

Thanks in advance for your help in those 2 problems.

Antoine
ps: I hope you understood my questions because of my poor English.




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Re: IP aliasing and PCMCIA network cards

[Colin Watson]

On Sun, May 12, 2002 at 09:02:43AM +0100, Niall Mansfield wrote:
> What is the "official" way to set up extra IP addresses on a single
> PCMICA card?

I use this in /etc/network/interfaces:

iface eth0 inet static
address 192.168.124.34
network 192.168.124.0
netmask 255.255.255.0
broadcast 192.168.124.255
up /sbin/ifup --force eth0:1
down /sbin/ifdown --force eth0:1

iface eth0:1 inet static
address 192.168.124.100
network 192.168.124.0
netmask 255.255.255.0
broadcast 192.168.124.255

It may not be perfect - I'm not convinced about the --force above, but
it seemed to be necessary to stop ifup/ifdown getting confused about
which interfaces had been configured in certain situations.

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Re: CPU load testing

[Alex Hunsley]

dman wrote:
> 
> On Sat, May 11, 2002 at 09:08:55PM -0500, Kirk Strauser wrote:
> |
> | At 2002-05-11T23:43:31Z, Scott Henson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> |
> | > On Sat, 2002-05-11 at 16:37, Sven Hoexter wrote:
> |
> | >> I prefer cat /dev/urandom > /dev/null
> |
> | > Dont hose your system entropy.  Try
> | >
> | >cat /dev/zero > /dev/null
> | >
> | > same result but you still have your entropy.
> |
> | Both of those would get the CPU nice and hot, but if I'm not mistaken,
> | neither one would really exercise the FPUs or memory busses.
> 
> Right.
> 
> | Wouldn't a better test be, say, a looped Quake timedemo in
> | software-3D mode?
> 
> This will likely test your video card, if you have a decent one
> (unlike mine).
> 
> | Or perhaps Seti-at-home (doesn't it use FP vs.  integer math?) run
> | multiple times?
> 
> That sounds like a good idea.
> 
> If you want to test the memory bus, use memtest86.  It's designed for
> that :-).  (or compile a kernel, that tends to identify bad memory
> when you see gcc segfault)

Thanks to all who wrote back - lots of good ideas!

I've just discovered something new which points the finger at the net card /
network even more - when doing "ifconfig" during a copying of lots of files
over the network, I noticed the "collisions:" reading for eth0 was in the
thousands and going up constantly! A look at my hub confirmed this: the
"collision" light was flashing constantly, which assumedly shouldn't be
happening. (The other two machines can talk for ages over the network and you
never get collisions.)

alex


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affichage déporté

[Antoine Jacoutot]

Bonjour,

J'ai un petit pbm pour déporté mon affichage X.
Sur le poste ou mon serveur X tourne, j'ai fait "xhost +".
Sur le client, je lance l'applicarion "xterm -display serveur:0"
Et il me dit "Can't open display: serveur:0.
Quelqu'un aurait-il une idée pour remédier à ce problème, car à part un
xhost +, je ne vois pas ce que je peux faire.

Merci.

Antoine





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Re: text converted into bar codes - tough reading !!

[shamad]

Ian, to let you know, I got an another advice which was to add in the
section Device of my /etc/X11/XF86Config file the following: Option
"NoAccel" and this worked!! It seems to be related to the xserver not
properly managing the accelerated fonts for my old video card..

Thanks very much for your assistance! Serge

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Subject: Re: text converted into bar codes - tough reading !!


> Ian,
>
> I've tried many of them (KDE, Gnome, icewm ...) same problem with all of
> them
>
> Anyway.. Thanks very much! It helped as I will try to figure out how to
> change those fonts Good lead!
> - Original Message -
> From: "Ian D. Stewart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "shamad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: "Ian D. Stewart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> 
> Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2002 2:52 PM
> Subject: Re: text converted into bar codes - tough reading !!
>
>
> > On 2002.05.11 08:57 shamad wrote:
> > > Ian,
> > > thanks! Please bear with me but how can I cahnge the font in command
> > > line
> > > mode? I'm sure it is very basic but I am (unluckily) style a GUI type
> > > of
> > > guy..
> >
> > Good question!  The changes I made were in Gnome (which only effects
> > the GUI).  Only thing I can think of is maybe trying out different TERM
> > settings.  Check out /etc/terminfo for a list of installed terminal
> > types.
> >
> > Hopefully, someone who is a little more clueful will respond...
> >
> >
> > HTH,
> > Ian
> > > Thanks - Serge
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Ian D. Stewart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "shamad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2002 1:49 PM
> > > Subject: Re: text converted into bar codes - tough reading !!
> > >
> > >
> > > > On 2002.05.11 04:31 shamad wrote:
> > > > > With SID some of the fonts look like bar codes not all
> > > > > As an eemple in the Gnome Control Center all text in the right
> > > window
> > > > > is
> > > > > readable, in the left window unreadable (bar codes)
> > > > > Interestingly, if  open a window ( bash.. whatever else) and move
> > > it
> > > > > over
> > > > > the 'bar codes' suddenly they get converted in readble text.
> > > >
> > > > I ran into this problem with colored fonts using ISO 10681 (I think
> > > > that's what it is).  I converted over to 8859-1, and the blocks went
> > > > away.  Think it might have had something to do with the former being
> > > a
> > > > unicode font (i.e., 2 bytes v. one).
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > HTH,
> > > > Ian
> > > >
> > >
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Problems with display on VIA chipset motherboard

[shyamk]

I use a AMD-Duron processor on a  VIA chipset motherboard ,
I installed the S3Virge stuff that came with
the CD supplied by my vendor ,and now am having some problems 
with the display.

o In XWindows , my ps/2 mouse pointer hangs after lurking in the corners
ofthe screen.

o zgv , text-console - based picture viewer , shows either a blank
screen for JPG or a white screen for GIF !

Strange , Windoze does not seem to be causing
this much of a headache.
Can somebody please help me out ?

Thanks,
Shyam
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A strange error

[shyamk]

Since today morning my Debian Potato r3 box has
been behaving strangely :

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[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/mnt7/Penguin_logo$ sudo /sbin/ask
Password:hda: status timeout: status=0xd0 { Busy }
hda: no DRQ after issuing WRITE
ide0: reset: success

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~

   In addition to this , I notice that the processor 
   seems to be aggressively working even when nothing 
   is being done -or- even when all users have logged 
   out ! Strange , Windoze does not seem to be causing
   this kind of problems.
   
What can the possible reason be ? Is this indicative of 
some major/minor anomaly ?

Regards,
Shyam


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Re: rsync over ssh without password

[Francois Chenais]

Try the --password-file option as described in man rsyncd.conf.

Doesn't work yet for me but it's in the man and somebody on rsync 
maillinglist said me that's work ! ;-)

François



On Sat, 11 May 2002 02:48:09 +0100
Rory Campbell-Lange <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'd like to automate a backup of a user's machine to the server. I've
> set up the backup with rsync using ssh (not rsyncd on the server). I
> know that it is easy to set this up with rsyncd, but I'd prefer to learn
> how to do this with ssh!
> 
> I'd like to be able to run the backup without providing a password, but
> rather just the user's id key. I've had a look at the sshd man page and
> tried setting up this system to no avail.
> 
> I've generated the user's keys and then logged into the user's server
> area and created ~/.ssh/authorized_keys. That file contains the user's
> public key in the form:
>   
>   1024 35 [key] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> I've tried messing around with
> 
>   command="touch hi" 1024 35 [key] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> and I have uncommented the AuthorizedKeysFile setting in
> /etc/ssh/sshd_config, but otherwise left this alone.
> 
> I'd be grateful for any help.
> Thanks
> Rory
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IP aliasing and PCMCIA network cards

[Niall Mansfield]

What is the "official" way to set up extra IP addresses on a single
PCMICA card?

I can obviously add a line like:
ifconfig eth0:1 10.2.3.4 netmask 255.0.0.0 up
to /etc/pcmcia/network.opts but:
(a) it would be invoked even in the case of a "network stop"
(b) doesn't remove the interface when the card is removed

Or, I could add "ifconfig ... up" and "ifconfig ... down" lines
to /etc/pcmcia/network, but:
(a) editing the "program" file is inelegant
(b) it will be executed for every PCMCIA network card if I have more
than one


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Re: rsync over ssh without password

[Mark Roach]

On Fri, 2002-05-10 at 20:48, Rory Campbell-Lange wrote:
> rather just the user's id key. I've had a look at the sshd man page and
> tried setting up this system to no avail.

when you attempt to connect, does it prompt you for password for the
key, or just user password? Did you create the correct version key? In
other words, if you are using ssh2 you need an ssh2 key, also depending
on the version of openssh you are using, the keys might need to go in
~/.ssh/authorized_keys2

doing an ssh -v [EMAIL PROTECTED] will give you some debug info that might be
useful. Also check permissions on both the client's private key file and
the server's authorized_keys file (both need to be 0600)

hope that helps

-Mark Roach


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File size limit exceeded

[Dr. Christoph H. LARSEN]

Dear All,
I am running Debian Potato 2.2 r5 on an AMD Athlon single processor
machine with a variety of IDE and SCSI hard drives atteched to it.
No problems so far.
A few day ago, I ran dselect for a system update, and it seems that
Debian automagically installed a few libraries (not quite sure which
ones, but I think glibc and consorts were involved). Everything went
well, until I wanted to format a hard drive. By then mkfs.ext2,
mkfs.ext3, mkfs.reiserfs, and even mkfs.vfat and mkfs.msdos gave me the
error message:
File size limit exceeded
As this error has never occured prior to my recent library update I
presume that there must be a bug in the latter. Any idea how to fix or
avoid it?
Thanks a million.

Chris


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Re: copy of dual boot lilo.conf

[craigw]

On Sat May 11, 2002 at 07:03:31PM -0700, Jaye Inabnit ke6sls wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
> 
> 
> Greetings:
> 
> Would anyone care to drop me a copy of their lilo.conf for booting Debian and 
> another *nix on the same hard drive?  I am out of practice, and could use it 
> as a quick reference to get both Debian and his old RedHat booting via lilo.  
> The box in question is a new installation of Woody.
> 
boot=/dev/hda
root=/dev/hda8

install=/boot/mboot.b
message=/boot/message.mandrake
ignore-table

prompt
timeout=50
# delay=20
lba32
map=/boot/System.map-2.2.20

vga=extended

default=Woody

image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.20
label=Woody
read-only
root=/dev/hda8

image=/mnt/debian/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.18
label=Progeny
read-only
root=/dev/hda12

image=/mnt/debian/boot/bzImage.2.4.18
label=RockstarIII
read-only
root=/dev/hda12

image=/mnt/corel/boot/bzImage
label=Corel_Supra
read-only
root=/dev/hda6
append="mem=378M"

image=/mnt/redhat/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.7-10
label=RedHat
read-only
root=/dev/hda11
append="hdd=ide-scsi"

image=/mnt/mandrake/boot/vmlinuz
label=Mandrake
root=/dev/hda9
initrd=/mnt/mandrake/boot/initrd.img
append="quiet devfs=mount hdd=ide-scsi"
vga=788
read-only

other=/dev/hda1
label=winblows


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