JSP, emacs y mmm-mode

[Luis Fernando Llana Díaz]

Hi all, 
  I am sorry for the previous message in spanish, I have made a mistake when 
posting the message.  I am trying to configure the emacs editor to work 
properly with JSP files. I have installed 'mmm-mode', I haved followed the 
instructions in the documentation wiht I have no results. 

  I have put the following line in my .emacs file:

(setq mmm-global-mode 'maybe)

and it does no work, then I have put the following ones:

(mmm-add-group 'jsp
 `((jsp-code
:submode java
:match-face (("<%!" . mmm-declaration-submode-face)
 ("<%=" . mmm-output-submode-face)
 ("<%"  . mmm-code-submode-face))
:front "<%[!=]?"
:back "%>"
:insert ((?% jsp-code nil @ "<%" @ " " _ " " @ "%>" @)
 (?! jsp-declaration nil @ "<%!" @ " " _ " " @ "%>" @)
 (?= jsp-expression nil @ "<%=" @ " " _ " " @ "%>" @))
)
   (jsp-directive
:submode text-mode
:face mmm-special-submode-face
:front "<%@"
:back "%>"
:insert ((?@ jsp-directive nil @ "<%@" @ " " _ " " @ "%>" @))
)))

but it still does not work, any ideas? please help!!!

Luis Llana


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Re: aliases versus functions

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> (Conventional wisdom, at least in my world, seems to be that you want
> to do as little customization in the root account as possible.  If I
> were setting up a system like this, I'd probably just mount all of the
> relevant partitions all the time; it doesn't really cost anything.)

After having clobbered libc a few times, any box I have root on gets
it's root shell changed to /bin/sash right quick.  I strongly
recommend everybody do this.  The nice thing about sash is it's
statically linked and has builtin equivilents of some commands to help
you get running right again for when you toast things like libc.

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Re: Frontpage

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> I'm trying to install Frontpage extensions on a web site I have.

DO NOT DO THIS.  Frontpage extentions are an excellent way to get
your box rooted so hard it'll need a grief counselor.

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Re: Evolution UI fonts in Gnome 2 on Woody

[Mark L. Kahnt]

On Sat, 2003-06-07 at 00:27, Bret Comstock Waldow wrote:
> I am running Woody, with the evilgeniuses backport for Gnome 2. 
> Evolution has been upgraded to 1.2.4.
> 
> The fonts in most of Gnome 2 are nicely anti-aliased, and I can select
> TrueType fonts to use.
> 
> The Evolution list of mail messages, in fact the entire UI, has an ugly
> font, and when I try to use "Tools - Settings - Font Preferences" to
> change it, I don't see the TrueType fonts, and the changes I make don't
> show up in the UI for Evolution, although they appear to affect the
> message text (like now while I'm editing it, for instance).  The UI is
> definitely not anti-aliased.
> 
> How do I affect the UI font for Evolution?  How can I get the fonts
> available for the rest of Gnome 2 available for Evolution?  My TrueType
> fonts don't show in the list of fonts for Evolution, although they are
> in the fonts available for Gnome 2.
> 
> I upgraded an existing Gnome 1.4 Woody install to get this Gnome 2
> install (removing all my KDE in the process, but that's another gripe
> for another time).  Is it a legacy Gnome 1.4 setting that's lurking
> somewhere?
> 
> Thanks for any clues.
> 
> Cheers,
> Bret
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Simple consideration: Evolution 1.2 series is not Gnome 2, it is still
Gnome 1.4, so the Gnome 2 font tools don't affect it. There is a Gnome 2
edition in Experimental (version 1.3.92 currently,) but it is called
Experimental for a reason.
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Italicized fonts in latest GNOME release, Debian unstable

[Stephen Touset]

I'm not sure whether or not this has to do with GNOME (it probably
doesn't...), but all my fonts have become italicized. Italics are now
much more italicized, and normal fonts are slanted to the right. This
has only occurred after my latest apt-get dist-upgrade. What's the
problem and how do I fix it? =\

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Re: Evolution UI fonts in Gnome 2 on Woody

[Mario Vukelic]

On Sat, 2003-06-07 at 06:27, Bret Comstock Waldow wrote:
> Is it a legacy Gnome 1.4 setting that's lurking
> somewhere?

Something like that. Evo 1.2.4 is still a Gnome 1.4 program, so changes
to Gnome 2 settings don't affect it. Evo 1.4 for G2 should be released
on June 9, and I guess it will be ported to woody rather quickly, so
maybe you shouldn't bother too much.
In any case, here's what you can do: 

In ~/.gtkrc add this: 

style "user-font"
{
fontset="-bitstream-bitstream vera
sans-medium-r-normal-*-*-80-*-*-p-*-iso8859-15"  [all on one line]
}
widget_class "*" style "user-font"

(Get the font name from gtkfontsel).
For availability of the fonts: check the font section of your
/etc/X11/XF86Config-4 (and /etc/X11/fs/config if you use the font
server). Is /usr/share/fonts/truetype listed?


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Trouble with PCI hardware modem

[Steve Kennedy]

Hi,

I'm having no success getting my PCI hardware modem working. Hope
someone here can help.

I've been following Jason McCarty's Linux PCI-Modem Micro-HOW-TO, and
here's what I've done so far.

As root, ran:
cd /dev && ./MAKEDEV ttyS4

ls -l /dev/ttyS4 shows:
crw-rw  1  root  dialout  4, 68  Jun 6 19:10  /dev/ttyS4

dmesg|grep ttyS shows:
ttyS00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
ttyS01 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A
ttyS04 at port 0xa000 (irq = 17) is a 16550A

This matches the output of lspci -v:
00:09.0  Serial controller: US Robotics/3Com 56K FaxModem Model
5610(rev 01) (prog-if 02 [16550])
   Subsystem: US Robotics/3Com USR 56K Internal Voice Modem (Model
2976)
   Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 17
   I/O ports at a000 [size=8]
   Capabilities: [dc] Power Management version 2

After running pppconfig, and triple-checking the information I keyed
in, I ran pon. It fails to connect, in fact the modem makes no sound at
all. (Yes, the phone jack is plugged into the wall and the back of the
computer). I checked tail -f /var/log/messages, but there's no reply to
the initial challenge and the program exits after a few "alerts".

Any suggestions?
Thanks for your help.
Steve

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Frontpage

[Reaz Baksh]

Hello

I’m trying to install Frontpage extensions on a web
site I have.  When I install ‘libapache-mod-frontpage-mirfak
1.6.2-6.deb’ it fails because it said apache not installed.  Well I
do have Apache installed but not through apt-get.  I installed it from source. 
Is there a way I can get this to recognize my installation of Apache or is there
another way to get frontpage extensions installed?

 

Reaz

Re: Graphics card, PCI modem recognition probs in Woody

[Steve Kennedy]

 --- Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 2003-06-05 at
22:38, Steve Kennedy wrote:
> >  --- Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun,
> 2003-06-01 at
> > 15:11, Steve Kennedy wrote:
> > > > Hi folks:
> [snip]
> > > Are you telling XFree which PCI device to use?
> > > 
> > > $ lspci|grep VGA
> > > 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV5M64
> [RIVA
> > > TNT2
> > > Model 64/Model 64 Pro] (rev 15)
> > > 
> > > $ grep BusID /etc/X11/XF86Config-4
> > > BusID   "AGP:01:00:0"
> > > 
> > Thanks for the hint, but it didn't work:
> > 
> > $ lspci|grep VGA
> > 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown
> device
> > 5157
> > 
> > Added this info using debconf to /etc/X11/XF86Config-4:
> > 
> > $ grep BusID /etc/X11/XF86Config-4
> >  BusID   "AGP:01:00:0"
> > 
> > Tried startx:
> > 
> > (II) RADEON: Driver for ATI Radeon chipsets: ATI Radeon QD (AGP),
> > ATI Radeon QE (AGP), ATI Radeon QF (AGP), ATI Radeon QG (AGP), ATI
> > Radeon VE (AGP)
> > (EE) No devices detected.
> 
> Since you use PCI instead of AGP, try:
>BusID   "PCI:01:00:0"
> ^^^
> Regarding your "part 2" email, what driver are you trying to use?
> 
The graphics card is in an AGP slot on the mainboard so I figured AGP
was the way to go. I tried your PCI suggestion, but it produced the 
same error: No devices detected.

The driver I need is the ATI Radeon 7500 QW, which isn't listed in the
error message above. I believe it was included in the newer version of
XFree86 in "testing." 

Thanks for your help.
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Evolution UI fonts in Gnome 2 on Woody

[Bret Comstock Waldow]

I am running Woody, with the evilgeniuses backport for Gnome 2. 
Evolution has been upgraded to 1.2.4.

The fonts in most of Gnome 2 are nicely anti-aliased, and I can select
TrueType fonts to use.

The Evolution list of mail messages, in fact the entire UI, has an ugly
font, and when I try to use "Tools - Settings - Font Preferences" to
change it, I don't see the TrueType fonts, and the changes I make don't
show up in the UI for Evolution, although they appear to affect the
message text (like now while I'm editing it, for instance).  The UI is
definitely not anti-aliased.

How do I affect the UI font for Evolution?  How can I get the fonts
available for the rest of Gnome 2 available for Evolution?  My TrueType
fonts don't show in the list of fonts for Evolution, although they are
in the fonts available for Gnome 2.

I upgraded an existing Gnome 1.4 Woody install to get this Gnome 2
install (removing all my KDE in the process, but that's another gripe
for another time).  Is it a legacy Gnome 1.4 setting that's lurking
somewhere?

Thanks for any clues.

Cheers,
Bret
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Re: Integrated sound on Via VT8235 South Bridge

[Jerry Quinn]

Brad Sawatzky writes:
 > Hi Denis,
 > 
 > I've found the newest ALSA  driver works quite well.
 > 
 > -- Brad
 > 
 > On Fri, 06 Jun 2003, Denis Pihulya wrote:
 > 
 > > Hello!
 > > Please inform me about support in debian voody 3.0 and kernel 2.4.x for
 > > integrated sound on Via VT8235 South Bridge.
 > > 

Unfortunately, the kernel via82cxxx_audio doesn't work, although it
should.

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Re: aliases versus functions

[David Z Maze]

alex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> For example, I use an alias ' win+ ' to get into my Windows 98SE
> From Debian
>   alias win+='mount -t vfat /dev/hda1 /mnt/da1; cd /mnt/da1;
>   ls'
>
>   alias win-='cd; umount /mnt/da1' (to unmount)
> (I created da1/  in /mnt/
>
>
> I have multiple Linux distributions installed and can access any of
> them from another with aliases constructed along the lines of the
> above example. I keep them in /root/.bashrc

Why not:

  dist() { mount /mnt/$1; cd /mnt/$1; ls; }
  nodist() { cd; umount /mnt/$1; }

Then you could run 'dist win' and 'nodist win' to get the equivalent
of your aliases above, provided you explain this /mnt/win concept in
/etc/fstab.

> 'Functions' just take up too much spacealiases of compound
> commands are much more compact and as far as I can tell work as well
> as 'Functions'.  So, why is everyone so set against using aliases for
> compound commands?It's like telling bees not to fly because
> they're aerodynamically unsuited for flight.

I'm not sure I can answer the deeper religious question, though.  The
best argument I can come up with is with command-line parameters: if
you typed 'win+ foo' with your alias, the foo would wind up being
passed as a parameter to the ls at the end, but my 'dist win foo'
would result in the foo being ignored.  Also, an 'alias' line might
confuse csh junkies; the function syntax is very similar to
traditional shell script syntax.

(Conventional wisdom, at least in my world, seems to be that you want
to do as little customization in the root account as possible.  If I
were setting up a system like this, I'd probably just mount all of the
relevant partitions all the time; it doesn't really cost anything.)

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Re: cupsys works, lpr does not

[Shyamal Prasad]

"Emma" == Emma Jane Hogbin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Emma> I've been trying to get my printer working again and it does
Emma> not want to print pages. I can print a "test page" from cups
Emma> (through a web browser) but I couldn't print any actual
Emma> pages because "lpr" didn't want to/couldn't read my
Emma> /etc/printcap file.

Be sure you've got cupsys-bsd

~$ dpkg -l 'cups*' | grep ^i
ii  cupsys 1.1.14-4.4 Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - server
ii  cupsys-bsd 1.1.14-4.4 Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - BSD comman
ii  cupsys-client  1.1.14-4.4 Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - client pro
ii  cupsys-driver- 4.2.0-4gimp-print printer driver for CUPS
ii  cupsys-pstoras 1.1.14-4.4 Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - pstoraster

Cheers!
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Speeding up debian ... ?

[David selby]

Hello,

A while ago I read about speeding up linux by re-compiling libc & the 
XF86 to take advantages of the installed processor. In my case a 700MHz 
PIII.

Would there be much of a speed increase, enough to warrent doing it ?

It also strikes me as potentialy dangerous to my systems health, any 
comments ?

Dave



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Re: lilo broken after upggrade

[Richard Cochinos]

On Sat, 7 Jun 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> On Fri, Jun 06, 2003 at 06:13:38PM -0700, Richard Cochinos wrote:
> > On Fri, 6 Jun 2003, John covici wrote:
> >
> > > Just specify lba32 in your global section of lilo.conf -- that is all
> > > you need.  Also, I would be sure to use version 1:22.5.4-1 because
> > > there have been some problems, but it works now.
> > >
> > It's the first thing in the lilo.conf file:
> > # Support LBA for large hard disks.
> > #
> > lba32
> >
> > I had assumed I needed something more specific b/c it was uncommented by
> > default. I tried commenting it out, but that was no help either. Is there
> > a way to apt-get an earlier version? I'm not sure what I was running under
> > woody, but it worked fine.
> >
>
> The config file changed a little, maybe you should use liloconfig to
> make a new one, then run lilo again to see if it works fine, if not,
> please post the error message.

Right. running liloconfig fixed the problem. I can't say I know what it
was though, but it is booting fine now.


 -richard


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Re: web hosting setup/admin

[Jeremy Gaddis]

Kevin Coyner writes: 

Ultimately I think I'd like to create a small web hosting service,
complete with a control panel for each site.  Can anyone suggest a good
mix of programs for this (whether debs or not)? 

Obviously this is a bit of trying to provide a service for known
friends/associates and also 'learn as you go' web hosting admin.
Fortunately none of the sites are mission critical types.
I'll probably get flamed for saying this, but... qmail! 

Properly set up, qmail just rocks.  By itself it's not all that
great, but when you add in all the other software, you get a
helluva combination.  I've got qmail + Courier-IMAP + vpopmail +
qmailadmin + vqadmin + ezmlm-idx + { a bunch of other stuff } +
SqWebMail, and it just rocks.  I'm running all this on a P200
w/ 32 MB of RAM, and it performs way better than Exim + UW-IMAPD +
SquirrelMail did on a 1.2 GHz box w/ 256 MB of RAM. 

j. 

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Re: lilo broken after upggrade

[jqdkf]

On Fri, Jun 06, 2003 at 06:13:38PM -0700, Richard Cochinos wrote:
> On Fri, 6 Jun 2003, John covici wrote:
> 
> > Just specify lba32 in your global section of lilo.conf -- that is all
> > you need.  Also, I would be sure to use version 1:22.5.4-1 because
> > there have been some problems, but it works now.
> >
> It's the first thing in the lilo.conf file:
> # Support LBA for large hard disks.
> #
> lba32
> 
> I had assumed I needed something more specific b/c it was uncommented by
> default. I tried commenting it out, but that was no help either. Is there
> a way to apt-get an earlier version? I'm not sure what I was running under
> woody, but it worked fine.
> 

The config file changed a little, maybe you should use liloconfig to
make a new one, then run lilo again to see if it works fine, if not,
please post the error message.

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aliases versus functions

[alex]

I've been using a collection of aliases for a few years and I've 
been told many times that I should be using 'functions ' to do the 
same job that my aliases do quite well.  I'm told that aliases are 
not suited for running compound commands but should be limited to 
simple equivalents such as

 alias cd..='cd ..'.   or alias ls='ls -aF --color=auto'

For example, I use an alias ' win+ ' to get into my Windows 98SE 
from Debian
 alias win+='mount -t vfat /dev/hda1 /mnt/da1; cd /mnt/da1;
 ls'

 alias win-='cd; umount /mnt/da1' (to unmount)
(I created da1/  in /mnt/
I have multiple Linux distributions installed and can access any of
them from another with aliases constructed along the lines of the 
above example. I keep them in /root/.bashrc

Just a few minutes ago, I had need of a file which wasn't in knoppix
/dev/ but was available in Lycoris /dev/.   Alias came to the 
rescue.  I was in knoppix so I typed ' lyco+ ' and copied the file 
from Lycoris /dev/  to knoppix  /dev/   where it works perfectly..

'Functions' just take up too much spacealiases of compound 
commands are much more compact and as far as I can tell work as well
as 'Functions'.  So, why is everyone so set against using aliases 
for compound commands?It's like telling bees not to fly because 
they're aerodynamically unsuited for flight.

alex





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Re: How to unsubscribe?

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Re: lilo broken after upggrade

[John covici]

What errors are you getting -- please be specific and give the error
message -- then someone may be able to help you.

on Friday 06/06/2003 Richard Cochinos([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote
 > On Fri, 6 Jun 2003, John covici wrote:
 > 
 > > Just specify lba32 in your global section of lilo.conf -- that is all
 > > you need.  Also, I would be sure to use version 1:22.5.4-1 because
 > > there have been some problems, but it works now.
 > >
 > It's the first thing in the lilo.conf file:
 > # Support LBA for large hard disks.
 > #
 > lba32
 > 
 > I had assumed I needed something more specific b/c it was uncommented by
 > default. I tried commenting it out, but that was no help either. Is there
 > a way to apt-get an earlier version? I'm not sure what I was running under
 > woody, but it worked fine.
 > 
 > 
 > 
 > > on Friday 06/06/2003 Richard Cochinos([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote
 > >  >
 > >  > Hello -
 > >  >
 > >  > Lilo broke after an upgrade to testing. I get as far as 'Li' and then it
 > >  > freezes up.
 > >  >
 > >  > I read in the README file that I need to specify the 'lba32' in lilo.conf
 > >  > to fix it.
 > >  >
 > >  > Anyone know what the lba32 is and how I would go about finding
 > >  > its specifics specifing for my machine?
 > >  >
 > >  >
 > >  >  -richard
 > >  >
 > >  >
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Re: lilo broken after upggrade

[Richard Cochinos]

On Fri, 6 Jun 2003, John covici wrote:

> Just specify lba32 in your global section of lilo.conf -- that is all
> you need.  Also, I would be sure to use version 1:22.5.4-1 because
> there have been some problems, but it works now.
>
It's the first thing in the lilo.conf file:
# Support LBA for large hard disks.
#
lba32

I had assumed I needed something more specific b/c it was uncommented by
default. I tried commenting it out, but that was no help either. Is there
a way to apt-get an earlier version? I'm not sure what I was running under
woody, but it worked fine.



> on Friday 06/06/2003 Richard Cochinos([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote
>  >
>  > Hello -
>  >
>  > Lilo broke after an upgrade to testing. I get as far as 'Li' and then it
>  > freezes up.
>  >
>  > I read in the README file that I need to specify the 'lba32' in lilo.conf
>  > to fix it.
>  >
>  > Anyone know what the lba32 is and how I would go about finding
>  > its specifics specifing for my machine?
>  >
>  >
>  >  -richard
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Re: JPG's poor quality

[Colin Watson]

On Fri, Jun 06, 2003 at 05:37:34PM -0500, Charles Logan wrote:
> I'll put a jpg and a gif, both created with Gimp up on our website and
> if anyone wants to take a look at them and see if it's really a
> problem or if I just need to increase my medication.  :)I'm not
> sure if it violates the rules to post a URL here,

Posting URLs here is fine.

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Re: How to unsubscribe?

[David]

On Fri, Jun 06, 2003 at 01:17:15PM +0200, Nicolas Kratz wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 05, 2003 at 11:31:10PM -0600, Jamin W. Collins wrote:
> > Here are the headers on my end from your message, no bounce address header:
> > 
> > Received: (qmail 3670 invoked from network); 6 Jun 2003 05:20:26 -
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> > by murphy.debian.org (Postfix) with QMQP
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> > Old-Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> At least three other places come to mind where the From-bounce header
> should show up (it does here, as well as in mutt):
> 
> - Raw mbox

Here's the complete header for this message, read from my mbox file as
saved by exim:

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> - Procmail log
> - MTA log (exim here)

And here's an exim log entry for an email coming from this list:

2003-06-06 18:08:05 19OQJZ-9v-00 <= [EMAIL PROTECTED] H=localhost.localdomain 
(localhost) [127.0.0.1] P=esmtp S=4315 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

> If it's not there, it's really not there.

Well.. from the log entry, especically, you'd think so.

In my case, Exim sorts my mail using ~/.forward..  I'd wondered if Exim
might be rewriting the From header, perhaps in the process of forwarding
the mail, but it would seem that the log entry above would be showing
the bounce=address..

I'm beginning to believe that mine really does come in as
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apt-get - install additional libraries

[Rodney D. Myers]

I want to install, not upgrade to gtk2.0.

How do I go about keeping my current gtk stuff around, and install the
gtk2.0 as well?

Thanks

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lilo broken after upggrade

[John covici]

Just specify lba32 in your global section of lilo.conf -- that is all
you need.  Also, I would be sure to use version 1:22.5.4-1 because
there have been some problems, but it works now.

on Friday 06/06/2003 Richard Cochinos([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote
 > 
 > Hello -
 > 
 > Lilo broke after an upgrade to testing. I get as far as 'Li' and then it
 > freezes up.
 > 
 > I read in the README file that I need to specify the 'lba32' in lilo.conf
 > to fix it.
 > 
 > Anyone know what the lba32 is and how I would go about finding
 > its specifics specifing for my machine?
 > 
 > 
 >  -richard
 > 
 > 
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Re: testing -- kdebase-audiolibs dependency

[Harshwardhan Nagaonkar]

Carlos Sousa wrote:
On Fri, 06 Jun 2003 14:45:37 -0600 Harshwardhan Nagaonkar wrote:

Please don't Cc: me on list mail. Just reply to the list, I'll be sure to
read it :)
okay I won't do it anymore, I just have this habit of hitting reply-all 
for mailing lists ever since this one incident long long ago. (when I 
was in high school ~2 years ago. Hope you understand :)

Don't fight the package management. As long as kde and kdebase-dev are
on the system, apt will try to satisfy its dependencies. Just try:
   dpkg --remove kdebase-audiolibs kde kdebase-dev

and you should be ok.
Yes, that worked. Thanks so much. Does this mean that we can post to the 
debian bug-list place and tell them to put this solution there. Or is it 
just a really good workaround? But thats secondary. Thanks for the help, 
I really appreciate it.
Good luck.
The luck came in handy.

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Re: JPG's poor quality

[Alan Shutko]

Charles Logan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> The problem is most noticeable if text is used, but any object
> placed on a canvas with any drawing program will have a smudgy,
> ghost like shadow 20-40 pixels around the object, as well as washed
> out and blotchy looking color in the object itself.

JPEG compression is designed for photographs, which have smoother
gradations in color.  When it's used for text or line art, or
anything which has sharp transitions between different colors, JPEG
compression will end up "smudging" it.

You can sort of solve this by upping the JPEG compression quality all
the way, but that will result in a very large JPEG.  It's better for
this kind of image to use PNG or GIF files because their lossless
compression will not affect the image, and will result in a
significantly smaller image file.

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lilo broken after upggrade

[Richard Cochinos]

Hello -

Lilo broke after an upgrade to testing. I get as far as 'Li' and then it
freezes up.

I read in the README file that I need to specify the 'lba32' in lilo.conf
to fix it.

Anyone know what the lba32 is and how I would go about finding
its specifics specifing for my machine?


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Re: ACPI HOWTO (draft #2)

[iain d broadfoot]

* Emma Jane Hogbin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> For those who are interested I've got my second draft of an ACPI HOWTO 
> online.
> 
> http://xtrinsic.com/geek/articles/acpi.phtml
> 
> Please feel free to let me know if you there are any parts which are 
> unclear or flat-out wrong. :)

looks fine to me - the only differences between your methods and mine
are probably bugs in my head anyway. :D

this howto would have been welcome last year, when i first started
struggling through getting my laptop into a happy place.

cheers,

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Re: Using make-kpkg

[Chris Metzler]

On Fri, 6 Jun 2003 17:07:02 -0400
Kevin McKinley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Fri, 6 Jun 2003 08:24:09 -0400
>Chris Metzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> No.  The kernel is built *and* then a .deb file containing the kernel
>> is built, which you can then install using "deb -i".
> 
> Methinks that's "dpkg -i kernel-image..."

D'oh!  Thanks for catching that.

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Re: how to tell which key was pressed to execute a script?

[Vineet Kumar]

* Andrej Hocevar ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030606 14:10]:
> On Fri, Jun 06, 2003 at 12:05:10PM -0400, David Z Maze wrote:
> > So use command-line arguments, or write a separate script for each
> > key.  They're cheap.  :-)

> So I thought I'd map more keys to that function, which always
> executes one script -- and the script would know how it was called,
> so that it could execute a different function for each key. 
> 
> Does anyone know how this could be accomplished?

I don't understand why David's idea was no good.  If you want different
keys to do different things, why not use different scripts for each?
The typical ways for a program to react differently based on how it was
invoked include command-line arguments (indlucing $0, the program name
itself) and the environment.  If the way it's run doesn't get something
like HOTKEY=F1 in its environment, you're probably only left with
command-line-arguments.  You could use many links to the same script
which checks $0, but I don't see why this is preferable over multiple
independent scripts (unless there's a lot of shared code).

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Re: JPG's poor quality

[Vineet Kumar]

* Charles Logan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030606 14:34]:
> I'm not sure when this little problem began, but the only system changes have 
> been updates from security.debian.  The system is an all stable Woody box.
> The problem is that images saved in the jpg format appear horribly blurred and 
> smudged.  This is true no matter which application saves the image.  Gimp, 
> Kpaint, Xv, etc all exhibit the same behavior.  If an image is saved in any 
> other format, gif, png, bmp, xbm, etc, when displayed, it looks fine.  The 
> problem is most noticeable if text is used, but any object placed on a canvas 
> with any drawing program will have a smudgy, ghost like shadow 20-40 pixels 
> around the object, as well as washed out and blotchy looking color in the 
> object itself.  I made a simple black text on white back ground image with 
> Gimp and saved it in jpg, gif, and tif formats.  gif and tif look nice and 
> crisp and clean when the image is viewed with a web browser or a image 
> viewing program, but the jpg version looks terrible.  Other jpg images from 
> other sources appear fine, so it has to be something happening when a program 
> on this system saves a jpg image.  My default desktop is KDE 2.2.2, with X11 
> 4.2.0.  I have also tried other window managers, Gnome, Fvwm, IceWm but the 
> same results occur no matter what.  All other graphics related items seem to 
> be fine.  The default desktop is 800x600 with 24 bit depth, although I have 
> also tried lower resolutions and color depth with no change.  The video card 
> is a Trident CyberBlade AGP.  I'm quite sure that this problem is something 
> fairly new as I have used Gimp previously to create many web images that were 
> saved in jpg format without this happening.  Any ideas as to what might be 
> causing this?Thanks!

Chris's advice is good.  I agree that this just sounds like the way that
JPEG works, and not a problem with your system (although trying some of
the things Chris suggested may get you better results).  Really, thouhg,
rather than trying to optimize the JPEG output in this particular case,
I'd recommend only using JPEG for photos, and PNG for graphics like what
you describe above.  Anything with text should almost certainly be a PNG
instead of a JPEG.  Google around for jpg vs png, you'll see some
examples of it.  You might also get good examples searching for gif vs
jpg, which still apply, but you should use PNG instead of GIF, because
it's Free, superior, and (at long last) widely supported.

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Re: JPG's poor quality

[Charles Logan]

>> You didn't mention trying different JPEG quality settings

 I did try playing with some of the quality settings in Gimp, forgot to 
mention that.  It seems that I can make the image go from kind of bad to 
really nasty with the settings, but nothing I tried seemed to make any real
improvment.  I tried all sorts of combinations of smoothing and quality 
settings with no real gain.  I admittedly have no idea what the DCT and 
subsampling settings actually do, but in trying different settings there, 
little if anything was gained.  I have also made sure to use a 'fresh' image, 
rather than recycling the same one so as not to 'wear it out' with multiple 
saves.   I'm starting to wonder if it's possibly a problem with my hardware, 
either video or monitor... maybe it looks ok to everybody but me.
I'll put a jpg and a gif, both created with Gimp up on our website and if 
anyone wants to take a look at them and see if it's really a problem or if I 
just need to increase my medication.  :)I'm not sure if it violates the 
rules to post a URL here, so if anyone wants to see a couple examples of my 
problem, email me directly and I'll give you the link.  Thanks, gang!

 


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Re: lpr still won't print

[Jamin W. Collins]

On Fri, Jun 06, 2003 at 04:18:53PM -0400, Mark Roach wrote:

> what is the output of:
> 
> dpkg -S /usr/bin/lpr
> 
> if it is not 
> 
> cupsys-bsd: /usr/bin/lpr
> 
> you need to apt-get install cupsys-lpr

you mean "apt-get install cupsys-bsd"

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ACPI HOWTO (draft #2)

[Emma Jane Hogbin]

For those who are interested I've got my second draft of an ACPI HOWTO 
online.

http://xtrinsic.com/geek/articles/acpi.phtml

Please feel free to let me know if you there are any parts which are 
unclear or flat-out wrong. :)

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Re: [OT] ergonomic setups

[Pigeon]

On Fri, Jun 06, 2003 at 12:10:31PM -0500, Alex Malinovich wrote:
> Other than that, I don't really bother with chair adjustments, monitor
> adjustments, fancy chairs, etc. After all, your employer is much more
> likely to get you a comfortable keyboard than a new, ergonomically
> designed office setup...

Where from? The only genuine IBM clicky keyboard I've seen for ages
and ages and ages is the one I'm typing this on, which I pulled out of
a skip... (Thank you, Lord, for skips.)

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Re: dpkg-reconfigure ntp-simple not working?

[Ben Kal]

On 5 Jun 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I made a mistake and canceled out of the configuration screen when I
> apt-get installed ntp-simple.  Now when I try running "dpkg-reconfigure
> ntp-simple" all it does is restart the ntpd.  It doesn't bring up the
> config menu.
>
> I've tried removing the package with the purge option and reinstalling.

If you really *purged* the package I think it is odd that on reinstalling
you do not see a configuration screen again if you did get one the very
first time you installed it. On the other hand, with the great majority of
packages configuring or reconfiguring is a matter of putting files in the
right places with some sensible default content, without any questions
(needing to be) asked.

If re-installing ntp-simple does not generate *error messages* probably all
is well, and you only have to configure it to your liking. How to do that
should be explained in the documentation that comes with it.

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Re: D-Link DFE-530TX under 2.4.16-686

[Ben Kal]

On 4 Jun 2003 ScruLoose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Wanting to replace my prehistoric 10base-T card with something that can do
>100, I bought myself a D-Link DFE-530TX and stuffed it into a free PCI
>slot. So I Googled for drivers and I keep being told that the card *is*
>supported, and uses the via-rhine drivers/module.  But modprobe via-rhine
>fails.
>
>lspci shows the card as:
>00:10.0 Ethernet controller: VIA Technologies, Inc.: Unknown device 3106 (rev 86)
>
>The output of modprobe via-rhine is:
>/lib/modules/2.4.16-686/kernel/drivers/net/via-rhine.o: init_module: No such device
>Hint: insmod errors can be caused by incorrect module parameters, including invalid
> IO or IRQ parameters
>/lib/modules/2.4.16-686/kernel/drivers/net/via-rhine.o: insmod /lib/modules/2.4.16-
>686/kernel/drivers/net/via-rhine.o failed
>/lib/modules/2.4.16-686/kernel/drivers/net/via-rhine.o: insmod via-rhine failed
>
> So I'm suspecting that I need to pass it some command-line parameters, but
> *what* parameters?  Do I need to be specifying IO or IRQ parameters, as
> mentioned in the hint above, and if so where do I get the values to pass
> to it?

All I can say is that if you do
  # cat /proc/interrupts
  # cat /proc/ioports
  # cat /proc/iomem
you will find out what settings the card actually has or expects (or does
a device whose driver fails to load not show up in these files?), and that
  # cd /lib/modules/2.4.16-686/kernel/drivers/net
  # modinfo -p via-rhine.o
should tell you what parameters you can pass to the via-rhine driver.

Maybe the web site of the card's manufacturer, or that of the company that
wrote the driver, has information on what parameter values the driver
needs, or on what other voodoo is necessary to make the card work?

Ben

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Re: Missing virtual desktops and open-new-session in gnome

[Ben Kal]

On 5 Jun 2003 Ronald Capel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> About two weeks ago I upgraded testing and I saw that quite some gnome
> packages were upgraded. Unfortunately I'm now missing 2 things:
>
> - The gnome desk guide applet only shows 1 desktop, instead of 4. I cannot
> find anything wrong in the applet' settings nor can I find anything about
> virtual desktops in the gnome control centre. Any idea's what happend
> and/or how to restore it?

Are you now running Gnome 2? In Gnome 2 the Control Centre has indeed no
facility to set the number of virtual desktops. You must use a panel menu to
add a 'desktop switcher' (suppose that is the same as the 'desk guide
applet') to a panel, if there isn't already one. That 'desktop switcher'
allows you to set the number of desktops as well as how to show them on the
panel.

> - The menu-item "new gnome login" (or something like that) which opened a
> second gnome session at tty8 is gone. Can anybody tell me what command is
> for that menu-item?

Never seen that one. But never installed *all* of Gnome.

Ben

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Re: Laptop Pcmcia question -- follow up question

[Ben Kal]

On 5 Jun 2003 Larry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Yes, I do have pcmcia-cs installed.  The cardmgr I see is loaded at boot. 
> But when, for example, I run cardinfo, I get an idcation of no card, even
> if I've put a flashdisk or ethernet card in.
>
> Perhaps I need to load a driver for whatever card I insert, 

Of course.

>  though I thought that's what cardmgr did.

Indeed, IF it can find the driver.

'man cardmgr' tells us:
"When a card is inserted, cardmgr looks up the card in a database of known
cards. If the card can be identified, appropriate device drivers will be
loaded and bound to the card".

The 'database of known cards' is the file
  /etc/pcmcia/config
I think you must search that file for cards you insert, and check if the
drivers mentioned in their 'bind' instructions are present in
  /lib/modules//pcmcia/

If they are and your pcmcia cards nevertheless do not work, I am stuck.
Otherwise, I believe that you have to get the package
  pcmcia-source
Use it to compile a package called
  pcmcia-modules-
after configuring pcmcia-source to produce all the driver modules you may
possibly want to use. Finally install your
  pcmcia-modules-
package and your pcmcia subsystem should be ok.

Ben

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Re: Converting OE6 .dbx folders -dbx2mbox

[Ben Kal]

On 5 Jun 2003 "SRIKANTH NS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I use OE6 with OE-Quote fix in win98 and I use sylpheed under Linux. I
> have a  voluminous mail box folder under OE which I would like to conver
> to standard mbox format which can be read by sylpheed so that I need not
> go back to OE for email.

> I searched for a utility and found dbx2mbox-0.3.0. I downloaded  the
> source and installed it. I copied one of my OE6 folders and ran ./dbx2mbox
> on it. It ran alright but I do not know where it has placed the converted
> mbox file to be read in sylpheed.

Without knowing anything about dbx2mbox: are you sure that your command was
to produce a file? If you say "It ran alright", do you mean you saw output
scrolling fast over your screen? In that case, it could be that dbx2mbox
sends the results of the conversion to standard output by default, and if
you want it in a file you have to redirect standard output to that file.

On the other hand, if dbx2mbox accepts the name of an output file as
argument, you can make sure that you can find that file afterwards by
specifying it as a full pathname, that is as something like
/home/srikanth/converted_OE6folder

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Re: vnc

[Ben Kal]

On 5 Jun 2003 jserrachinha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Why ou why vncserver dont work in gnome-session. I get a grey screen, 
> but in kde works. What must i do?

Sorry, know nothing about vncserver.

> What's de + sign in option 2?

The + indicates which alternative is considered 'best', that is, has the
highest priority assigned to it by the system administrator.

> sid:/home/net# update-alternatives --config x-session-manager
> 
> There are 2 alternatives which provide `x-session-manager'.
> 
>   SelectionAlternative
> ---
> * 1/usr/bin/gnome-session
>  +2/usr/bin/kde3
>
> Enter to keep the default[*], or type selection number:

So type 2 if vncserver is essential to you and only works in KDE, and leave
it that way until you find someone who knows how to make it work in Gnome.

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Re: LS_COLORS error

[Ben Kal]

On 5 Jun 2003 Neilen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'm running sid.  Some time in the last week (did unfortunately not notice
> exactly when), I started getting the following error from ls:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/public_html$ ls
> ls: unrecognized prefix: do
> ls: unparsable value for LS_COLORS environment variable.
>
> LS_COLORS is:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/public_html$ echo $LS_COLORS
> no=00:fi=00:di=01;34:ln=01;36:pi=40;33:so=01;35:do=01;35:bd=40;33;01:cd=40;33;01:or=40;31;01:ex=01;32:*.tar=01;31:*.tgz=01;31:*.arj=01;31:*.taz=01;31:*.lzh=01;31:*.zip=01;31:*.z=01;31:*.Z=01;31:*.gz=01;31:*.bz2=01;31:*.deb=01;31:*.rpm=01;31:*.jar=01;31:*.jpg=01;35:*.jpeg=01;35:*.gif=01;35:*.bmp=01;35:*.pbm=01;35:*.pgm=01;35:*.ppm=01;35:*.tga=01;35:*.xbm=01;35:*.xpm=01;35:*.tif=01;35:*.tiff=01;35:*.png=01;35:*.mpg=01;35:*.mpeg=01;35:*.avi=01;35:*.fli=01;35:*.gl=01;35:*.dl=01;35:*.xcf=01;35:*.xwd=01;35:*.ogg=01;35:*.mp3=01;35:*.wav=01;35:

Weird. Your $LS_COLORS is exactly the same as mine, and my colours are ok.

Could it be that the real problem is indicated by
> ls: unrecognized prefix: do
No idea what it means, though. ls still works, only without colours?

Ben

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Re: Evolution segmentation faulting on me now

[Ben Kal]

On 5 Jun 2003 Jason Self <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> The nearest I can tell all of this mess started yesterday when I did an 
> apt-get upgrade and an apt-get dist-upgrade.  But for some reason 
> whenever I try launch Ximian Evolution I get the following message and a 
> gui segfault warning:
>
> (Evolution:1008): Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by C library
>
> so in an effort to work with some advice that I had gotten I tried to do 
> a locale-gen, that worked but didn't fix anything and then a 
> dpkg-reconfigure locale.  It ran me through all the questions that I 
> answered as best I could (I just found out what a locale is today and 
> still didnt really understand my selections) and made sure to select C  
> when it asked me.

Let me first admit I also still do not know all there is to know about
locales, but I am pretty sure that:
- installing locales and running locale-gen only make the locales of your
  choice available on your system;
- which locale will be used is determined by the values of the LANG and LC_*
  environment variables;
- some programs have trouble with certain locales, or with all locales
  other than C, but C should always work.

So try
  export LANG=C LC_ALL=C
in your .xsession and/or .bash_profile and see if the problem persists.
If it does I have no immediate clue about what to do next. Maybe upgrade
Gdk and/or the C library.

If it turns out Evolution only wants to run with the C locale while your
first choice is the locale corresponding to your own language, then you
can set LANG and LC_ALL to the latter locale as default for your sessions
and still use Evolution and other programs that only understand the C locale
by changing the environment to their liking when starting them. This is done
by prefixing the command to start them with an env statement, like so:
  env LANG=C LC_ALL=C 

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Re: a problem when use 'apt-get install' command install 'mysql-server', help !!

[Ben Kal]

On 5 Jun 2003 Jojo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  I had got a 'apt-install error' problem when I used command:
>
>  "apt-get -u install mysql-server mysql-client"
>
> laptop:~# apt-get -u install mysql-server mysql-client Reading Package
> 
> Selecting previously deselected package mysql-server.
> Unpacking mysql-server (from .../mysql-server_3.23.51-1woody5_i386.deb) ...
> Setting up mysql-client (3.23.51-1woody5) ...
>
> Setting up mysql-server (3.23.51-1woody5) ...
> Stopping MySQL database server: mysqld.
> dpkg: error processing mysql-server (--configure):
>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
> Errors were encountered while processing:
>  mysql-server
> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)

I have had an error message like this
>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
when installing 'gstreamer' packages.

It turned out that in all their post-installation scripts the first two lines
were:
  set -e
  unset DISPLAY
This causes the scripts to prematurely exit if there is no DISPLAY set.
And I had no DISPLAY set because I was not working in X.

The simple work-around was to enter the command
  # export DISPLAY=
before
  # dpkg --configure gstreamer-

Now I am not suggesting this is the solution to your problem, only that,
if no other solution comes up, it is worth the trouble to extract the
post-inst script from the mysql-server .deb package file and study
its contents. You may find that the script fails because of some
peculiarity of the environment it runs in on your system.

Ben

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Re: Where is the kernel config file?

[David List]

On Fri, 6 Jun 2003, Kevin McKinley wrote:

>On Fri, 6 Jun 2003 18:10:34 +0200 (CEST)
>David List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> I see. I thank you and mr. Saunders for answering my question.
>
>Here's an answer for a question you didn't ask:  :)
>
>http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/kernel-pkg.html

Thanks.

Best regards,
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Re: testing -- kdebase-audiolibs dependency

[Carlos Sousa]

On Fri, 06 Jun 2003 14:45:37 -0600 Harshwardhan Nagaonkar wrote:

Please don't Cc: me on list mail. Just reply to the list, I'll be sure to
read it :)

> Carlos Sousa wrote:
> > On Fri, 06 Jun 2003 12:34:28 -0600 Harshwardhan Nagaonkar wrote:
> > 
> >>Hello all,
> >>   I have been trying to upgrade a testing system for about 2 weeks now. 
> 
> > The problem went away when I uninstalled kdebase-audiolibs. You'll lose
> > packages kde (virtual, no harm done) and kdebase-dev (development, not
> > needed for kde usage).
> 
> I read the bug report. It was interesting, but I only saw your bug 
> filed, I couldn't see the solution if it was there. If I did miss it, 
> please forgive my inability to see and post it here please.

That's it, there are no further postings to the bug.

> Here is what 
> I did by interpreting what you said about removing kdebase-audiolibs...
> 
> I tried to uninstall kdebase-audiolibs with #apt-get remove 
> kdebase-audiolibs , but it gave the following error:
> ***
> # apt-get remove kdebase-audiolibs
> Reading Package Lists... Done
> Building Dependency Tree... Done
> Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
> distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
> or been moved out of Incoming.
> 
> Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that
> the package is simply not installable and a bug report against
> that package should be filed.
> The following information may help to resolve the situation:
> 
> Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies:
>kde: Depends: kdebase-audiolibs but it is not going to be installed or
>  kdebase3-audiolibs but it is not installable
> E: Sorry, broken packages
> ***

Should have warned you about this and advise you to use dpkg. Sorry :(

> Then I tried many combinations of forcing it to do it like apt-get 
> remove -m kdebase-audiolibs, but to no avail.
> 
> Then I read up some more in $man apt-get and it suggested manually 
> uninstalling using dpkg in extreme cases. So I used dpkg, but it would 
> not let me do it right away. So I used dpkg with forcing :
> *
> #dpkg --remove --force-all kdebase-audiolibs
> dpkg: kdebase-audiolibs: dependency problems, but removing anyway as you 
> request:
>   kde depends on kdebase-audiolibs | kdebase3-audiolibs; however:
>Package kdebase-audiolibs is to be removed.
>Package kdebase3-audiolibs is not installed.
> (Reading database ... 76702 files and directories currently installed.)
> Removing kdebase-audiolibs ...
> ***
> 
> Then when I try to an apt-get dist-upgrade, it installs 
> kdebase-audiolibs again and nothing else!!!

Don't fight the package management. As long as kde and kdebase-dev are
on the system, apt will try to satisfy its dependencies. Just try:

   dpkg --remove kdebase-audiolibs kde kdebase-dev

and you should be ok.

> What is the command/route that you used to get rid of kdebase-audiolibs 
> in such a way as to solve the problem (apt-get remove -fm, dpkg --force 
> etc) ? And once you got it to uninstall, which command fixed things 
> back to normal?

Try the above, you should be fine.

Good luck.

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Re: [OT] ergonomic setups

[Allan Wind]

On 2003-06-06 16:58:49, Kevin McKinley wrote:
> I strongly concur with "drink lots of plain water". I wish I'd discovered
> the importance of this much earlier in life.

Sounds like you guys should run a hose instead :-)


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Re: JPG's poor quality

[Chris Kenrick]

On Fri, Jun 06, 2003 at 04:11:42PM -0500, Charles Logan wrote:
> I'm not sure when this little problem began, but the only system changes have 
> been updates from security.debian.  The system is an all stable Woody box.
> The problem is that images saved in the jpg format appear horribly blurred and 
> smudged.  This is true no matter which application saves the image.  Gimp, 
> Kpaint, Xv, etc all exhibit the same behavior.  If an image is saved in any 
> other format, gif, png, bmp, xbm, etc, when displayed, it looks fine.  The 
> problem is most noticeable if text is used, but any object placed on a canvas 
> with any drawing program will have a smudgy, ghost like shadow 20-40 pixels 
> around the object, as well as washed out and blotchy looking color in the 
> object itself.  I made a simple black text on white back ground image with 
> Gimp and saved it in jpg, gif, and tif formats.  gif and tif look nice and 
> crisp and clean when the image is viewed with a web browser or a image 
> viewing program, but the jpg version looks terrible.  Other jpg images from 
> other sources appear fine, so it has to be something happening when a program 
> on this system saves a jpg image.  My default desktop is KDE 2.2.2, with X11 
> 4.2.0.  I have also tried other window managers, Gnome, Fvwm, IceWm but the 
> same results occur no matter what.  All other graphics related items seem to 
> be fine.  The default desktop is 800x600 with 24 bit depth, although I have 
> also tried lower resolutions and color depth with no change.  The video card 
> is a Trident CyberBlade AGP.  I'm quite sure that this problem is something 
> fairly new as I have used Gimp previously to create many web images that were 
> saved in jpg format without this happening.  Any ideas as to what might be 
> causing this?Thanks!

Hmm, the symptoms sound to me like artifacts of the JPEG compression
itself.  You didn't mention trying different JPEG quality settings, so
I'd try that first.  What settings did you use in the JPEG save dialog
box in gimp?  You should see one if you try and resave a non JPEG image
into jpeg (eg save myfile.tiff as myfile.jpg).  Also, what happens if
you use imagemagick to convert, like so:

convert -quality 100 myfile.tiff myfile.jpg

The other thing is that since jpeg compression is lossy, repeated saves
of the same file will cause it to lose quality.  Where possible, try to
edit the file in a lossless format (like tiff or xcf) and then convert
to JPEG at the end of the cycle.  And keep a non lossy version around in
case you need to edit it again later.

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Re: [OT] ergonomic setups

[Alan Shutko]

Vineet Kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I hear you on that one.  I've found that the best way for my wrists is
> to place the keyboard on my lap.

Me too!  (Laptopping professionally for over 3 years.)

> Unfortunately, for a laptop, that means I'm looking almost straight
> down, which strains the neck.

I use chairs like
http://www.ikea-usa.com/product_presentation/show.asp?productnumber=00010027&type=III&id=6396,415
which come with or work well with a footstool.  That way, I'm only
looking a few degrees down from the horizontal, in a position that's
very natural with the chair.  I don't have neck problems this way.
(While before I started using this setup, I was in pain after every
day of work.)

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Re: Missing characters in utf-8 fonts?

[Aryan Ameri]

On Friday 06 June 2003 10:23, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 05, 2003 at 06:01:11PM +0300, Aryan Ameri wrote:
> > This means that the font that Mozila and Opera use, do not have
> > support for those characters. Most of the fonts (unfortunately) do
> > not support many utf-8 charcters. Try using a different Unicode
> > font.
>
> Hmm, I'll look for some. But I think its something else, because
> Opera and Mozila use msttfcore fonts... They should be quite
> complete...

Try using "Arial Unicode MS". The font is 20 MB or something like that, 
and I haven't been able to find it on the internet lately (after 
microsoft discontinued their fontd download service), but I use it 
myself, and it is the most complete Unicode font I have founnd todate. 
If you have a a windoze box available, you can get it from there.

Cheers
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Re: Galeon 1.3.4

[Kevin McKinley]

On Fri, 6 Jun 2003 15:23:45 +0100
Pigeon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Thu, Jun 05, 2003 at 03:59:42PM +, Jason Lunz wrote:
> > I haven't found a solution for this one. For now I've been using google
> > as my home page.
> 
> What else would you possibly want as your home page? :-)

http://www.debian.org, of course.

You asked for it. :)

Kevin


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JPG's poor quality

[Charles Logan]

I'm not sure when this little problem began, but the only system changes have 
been updates from security.debian.  The system is an all stable Woody box.
The problem is that images saved in the jpg format appear horribly blurred and 
smudged.  This is true no matter which application saves the image.  Gimp, 
Kpaint, Xv, etc all exhibit the same behavior.  If an image is saved in any 
other format, gif, png, bmp, xbm, etc, when displayed, it looks fine.  The 
problem is most noticeable if text is used, but any object placed on a canvas 
with any drawing program will have a smudgy, ghost like shadow 20-40 pixels 
around the object, as well as washed out and blotchy looking color in the 
object itself.  I made a simple black text on white back ground image with 
Gimp and saved it in jpg, gif, and tif formats.  gif and tif look nice and 
crisp and clean when the image is viewed with a web browser or a image 
viewing program, but the jpg version looks terrible.  Other jpg images from 
other sources appear fine, so it has to be something happening when a program 
on this system saves a jpg image.  My default desktop is KDE 2.2.2, with X11 
4.2.0.  I have also tried other window managers, Gnome, Fvwm, IceWm but the 
same results occur no matter what.  All other graphics related items seem to 
be fine.  The default desktop is 800x600 with 24 bit depth, although I have 
also tried lower resolutions and color depth with no change.  The video card 
is a Trident CyberBlade AGP.  I'm quite sure that this problem is something 
fairly new as I have used Gimp previously to create many web images that were 
saved in jpg format without this happening.  Any ideas as to what might be 
causing this?Thanks!


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Re: dpkg-reconfigure ntp-simple not working?

[Kevin McKinley]

On Fri, 06 Jun 2003 09:10:55 -0700
"cfactor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'm at my wits end...  Is there some other manual method I can use to run
> the configure utility besides dpkg-reconfigure?

Yes.

Use the attached ntp.conf.

That qualifies as "manual" I think. :)

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Re: Using make-kpkg

[Kevin McKinley]

On Fri, 6 Jun 2003 08:24:09 -0400
Chris Metzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> No.  The kernel is built *and* then a .deb file containing the kernel
> is built, which you can then install using "deb -i".

Methinks that's "dpkg -i kernel-image..."
 
> Please read http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/kernel-pkg.html

Thanks for the plug.

Kevin


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Re: Where is the kernel config file?

[Kevin McKinley]

On Fri, 6 Jun 2003 18:10:34 +0200 (CEST)
David List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I see. I thank you and mr. Saunders for answering my question.

Here's an answer for a question you didn't ask:  :)

http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/kernel-pkg.html

Kevin


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Re: [OT] ergonomic setups

[Kevin McKinley]

On Fri, 6 Jun 2003 12:27:37 -0400
Nori Heikkinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> i'd like your opinions/feedback about what kind of ergonomic setups
> you use at home and in the office.  as i mentioned a couple of days
> ago, i've been issued a laptop at work, and i can barely use it for
> the wrist strain.  i can have a desktop if i want, and i think i'm
> going to ask for one ... they're less convenient and less mobile, but
> i'd like to keep my wrists.

You may be able to improve the laptop ergonomics by placing something under
the near edge, so that the keyboard slants downward away from you. That
combined with a portable wrist rest might make the laptop OK for you.

Have you considered using an external keyboard with the laptop? Cheap,
doesn't eat up your space, and you still have the portability of the laptop.

A really good chair can be very expensive, but that's not extravagant when
you consider that you're spending a third of your life in it. The armrests
should be adjustable to the correct height so you can rest your elbows on
them.

I strongly concur with "drink lots of plain water". I wish I'd discovered
the importance of this much earlier in life.

Kevin


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Re: how to tell which key was pressed to execute a script?

[Andrej Hocevar]

On Fri, Jun 06, 2003 at 12:05:10PM -0400, David Z Maze wrote:
> So use command-line arguments, or write a separate script for each
> key.  They're cheap.  :-)

No, that won't go. Suppose you'd want -- as do I -- to press only
the F1 key every time you'd like to check your mail. You'd do it
with loadkeys and using a string, such as "fetchmail\n".

That's quite ok but if you'd map it to something like "loadkeys us\n",
what do you think would happen if you pressed that in your editor?
Will it really change your keyboard-layout? No; you'd merely see it
written out in your text. If you check what "dumpkeys" says, you'll
note the absence of a function like "loadkeys ...". (Which is quite
natural, right?)

Now here you have two possibilities: you can either add a custom
function to the kernel sources or use the "KeyboardSignal" function.
You map it to a key and edit your /etc/inittab to activate it. Then
you may press your magic key and your keyboard becomes different, if
that's what you want. You can do it from within your editor and you
won't even notice it until you try it out.

So I thought I'd map more keys to that function, which always
executes one script -- and the script would know how it was called,
so that it could execute a different function for each key. 

Does anyone know how this could be accomplished?

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Re: testing -- kdebase-audiolibs dependency

[Harshwardhan Nagaonkar]

Carlos Sousa wrote:
On Fri, 06 Jun 2003 12:34:28 -0600 Harshwardhan Nagaonkar wrote:

Hello all,
  I have been trying to upgrade a testing system for about 2 weeks now. 

The problem went away when I uninstalled kdebase-audiolibs. You'll lose
packages kde (virtual, no harm done) and kdebase-dev (development, not
needed for kde usage).

I read the bug report. It was interesting, but I only saw your bug 
filed, I couldn't see the solution if it was there. If I did miss it, 
please forgive my inability to see and post it here please. Here is what 
I did by interpreting what you said about removing kdebase-audiolibs...

I tried to uninstall kdebase-audiolibs with #apt-get remove 
kdebase-audiolibs , but it gave the following error:
***
# apt-get remove kdebase-audiolibs
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.

Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that
the package is simply not installable and a bug report against
that package should be filed.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:
Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies:
  kde: Depends: kdebase-audiolibs but it is not going to be installed or
kdebase3-audiolibs but it is not installable
E: Sorry, broken packages
***
Then I tried many combinations of forcing it to do it like apt-get 
remove -m kdebase-audiolibs, but to no avail.

Then I read up some more in $man apt-get and it suggested manually 
uninstalling using dpkg in extreme cases. So I used dpkg, but it would 
not let me do it right away. So I used dpkg with forcing :
*
#dpkg --remove --force-all kdebase-audiolibs
dpkg: kdebase-audiolibs: dependency problems, but removing anyway as you 
request:
 kde depends on kdebase-audiolibs | kdebase3-audiolibs; however:
  Package kdebase-audiolibs is to be removed.
  Package kdebase3-audiolibs is not installed.
(Reading database ... 76702 files and directories currently installed.)
Removing kdebase-audiolibs ...
***

Then when I try to an apt-get dist-upgrade, it installs 
kdebase-audiolibs again and nothing else!!!

What is the command/route that you used to get rid of kdebase-audiolibs 
in such a way as to solve the problem (apt-get remove -fm, dpkg --force 
etc) ? And once you got it to uninstall, which command fixed things 
back to normal?

I really appreciate the prompt response.

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Re: cupsys works, lpr does not

[Harshwardhan Nagaonkar]

Emma Jane Hogbin wrote:
On Fri, Jun 06, 2003 at 03:03:24PM -0400, Emma Jane Hogbin wrote:

On Fri, Jun 06, 2003 at 01:01:50PM -0600, Harshwardhan Nagaonkar wrote:

worked for me. I also removed the "Loopbreak" after I was done since I 
didn't want to leave options turned on which I don;t know about and 
which are not turned on by default.
Will a # suffice to comment it out? I'm assuming that # is standard...but
assuming often gets me into trouble. ;)


The answer to that is "no, it will not suffice. Move the file to
aptdotconf if you would like to keep it around for reference purposes."
emma :)

Wow, you got the answer fast. I guess my mind-solution-transmitting 
system finally works now. Thanks for being the first zombie of the 
system, your beta-tester t-shirt will be mind-warped to you. Now to file 
the patent. hehehehe :p

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Re: lpr still won't print

[Jamin W. Collins]

On Fri, Jun 06, 2003 at 03:49:48PM -0400, Emma Jane Hogbin wrote:
> Ok, now that I've got cupsys back I have the same problem with lpr. (which
> is installed, btw) I can "print a test page" from cupsys but when I try to
> print the page (with mozilla and lpr), the page doesn't print. The printer
> gets all excited as if it's going to print, but it doesn't feed a page
> through.

Did you install "cupsys-bsd".  This will provide the cups compatible
version of lpr.  Without it, you're using some other non-compatible
lpr.

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you absolutely need it. -- Vineet Kumar


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Re: Remotly changing emil users passwords

[Chris Kenrick]

On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 03:29:33PM +1000, Ivan Wills wrote:
> Hi
> I am setting up a Debian system (Woody) as primarily as mail server (exim).
> Is there a way I can allow users to remotly change their passwords with 
> out using ssh (or any other shell)
> I world also like the majority of users, not to be able to login through 
> a terminal (I don't trust their passwords and I
> cannot enforce strong passwords, particularly for the CEO)
> 
> Any suggestions on how to acheive this?

How about setting their shell in /etc/passwd to be /usr/bin/passwd?
That way the only thing they can do when logging in is to change their
password.  You'd probably have to add /usr/bin/passwd to /etc/shells for
this to work...

- Chris


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Re: lpr still won't print

[Mark Roach]

On Fri, 2003-06-06 at 15:49, Emma Jane Hogbin wrote:
> Ok, now that I've got cupsys back I have the same problem with lpr. (which
> is installed, btw) I can "print a test page" from cupsys but when I try to
> print the page (with mozilla and lpr), the page doesn't print. The printer
> gets all excited as if it's going to print, but it doesn't feed a page
> through.

what is the output of:

dpkg -S /usr/bin/lpr

if it is not 

cupsys-bsd: /usr/bin/lpr

you need to apt-get install cupsys-lpr

-Mark


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Re: font issues with xpdf

[Emma Jane Hogbin]

On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 03:44:34PM -0400, Emma Jane Hogbin wrote:
> When I try to use xpdf nothing appears on the page and i get the following
> error message:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ xpdf
> LTK Error: Unknown font '-*-helvetica-medium-r-normal-*-14-*-*-*-*-*-*-*'
> Does anyone know where I can configure the fonts that xpdf uses?

Make sure the following packages are installed: xfonts-100dpi, xfonts-75dpi.
You should already have xfonts-base. As another option you may also want
to install msttcorefonts (microsoft true type fonts). Thanks to the
techtalk list for the hints re. the 100dpi and 75dpi packages.

emma :)

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Re: cupsys works, lpr does not

[Emma Jane Hogbin]

On Fri, Jun 06, 2003 at 11:12:28AM -0800, Greg Madden wrote:
> The best success I think is having 'only' cups installed, no LPR stuff 
> installed. From your account it seems cups worked from the browser tool but 
> it appears you had LPR stuff installed at the same time. Start fresh,  
> purge all printing systems except cups. It looks like you are not using 
> Woody so I can't say how to fix the conflicts issue.

There are too many things (like browsers, muttprint, etc) that want to use
lpr. I had everything working nicely before my system hosed, so I'm sure
it's possible. I'm also pretty sure that I configured everything with
cupsys (i.e. even printcap for lpr). That's what has me totally confused
about why it's not working this time.

> Cups uses a different printcap file, /etc/printcap.cups. I

I don't think so... that file is totally empty!

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Re: cupsys works, lpr does not

[Emma Jane Hogbin]

On Fri, Jun 06, 2003 at 03:03:24PM -0400, Emma Jane Hogbin wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 06, 2003 at 01:01:50PM -0600, Harshwardhan Nagaonkar wrote:
> > worked for me. I also removed the "Loopbreak" after I was done since I 
> > didn't want to leave options turned on which I don;t know about and 
> > which are not turned on by default.
> 
> Will a # suffice to comment it out? I'm assuming that # is standard...but
> assuming often gets me into trouble. ;)

The answer to that is "no, it will not suffice. Move the file to
aptdotconf if you would like to keep it around for reference purposes."

emma :)

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Re: cupsys works, lpr does not

[Emma Jane Hogbin]

On Fri, Jun 06, 2003 at 01:22:49PM -0600, Jamin W. Collins wrote:
> Have you install the "cupsys-bsd" package?  You'll need to for lpr to
> work with cups.

Bingo!! Thanks. :) Printer now printing from browsers!!

emma :)

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squirrelmail + uw-imapd broken after upgrade

[Lindsey Simon]

I recently upgraded a box with the mime-type fix and for some reason
since then, my squirrelmail setup has become unstable. It takes a really
long time to login. I don't see any connection, but I wonder if anyone
else has noticed something similar.


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lpr still won't print

[Emma Jane Hogbin]

Ok, now that I've got cupsys back I have the same problem with lpr. (which
is installed, btw) I can "print a test page" from cupsys but when I try to
print the page (with mozilla and lpr), the page doesn't print. The printer
gets all excited as if it's going to print, but it doesn't feed a page
through.

There's nothing in the /var/log/lpr.log other than a couple of restarts.
Jun  6 14:06:04 debian lpd[1180]: restarted
Jun  6 14:06:26 debian lpd[1191]: restarted
Jun  6 14:16:52 debian lpd[1384]: restarted
Jun  6 14:42:49 debian lpd[242]: restarted

In /var/log/messages I get "MARK" each time it tries to print:
Jun  6 15:42:48 debian -- MARK --

There's nothing in the syslog when I grep through it for "lpr" and nothing
within the right time period when I grep through it for "lpd".

My /etc/printcap file looks like this:
lp:\
:sd=/var/spool/lpd/ml4500:\
:mx#0:\
:sh:\
:lp=/dev/lp0:\
:TEXT_SEND_EOF=NO:

Which means it is NOT using my configuration options from CUPsys where my
printer is named "ml4500".

Any ideas on what other logs to check for errors?

thanks!

emma

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Mounting Sprint PCS 8100 and USB???

[Jake Johnson]

Hello
Has anyone had any luck mounting a sprint phone using the usb cable?  Any
info would be great.


Jake Johnson
http://www.plutoid.com


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Re: Galeon 1.3.4

[Jason Lunz]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
> On Thu, Jun 05, 2003 at 03:59:42PM +, Jason Lunz wrote:
>> I haven't found a solution for this one. For now I've been using google
>> as my home page.
> 
> What else would you possibly want as your home page? :-)

Well, with galeon 1.2 I had alt+g bound to the google smartbookmark.
that was far better. The new galeon doesn't let you do that.

Jason


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Re: libc6-dev conflicting with kernel-source

[Bruno Diniz de Paula]

Thanks, David! Solved the problem...

Bruno.

On Fri, 2003-06-06 at 11:58, David Z Maze wrote:
> Bruno Diniz de Paula <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > I'm writting a program that deals with some kernel structures (defined
> > on the kernel source includes), as well as with some definitions from
> > libc6-dev under asm/... and linux/... The problem is that some of the
> > symbols are duplicated and, what is worse, with different definitions.
> > What would be a solution for this?
> 
> Set the include path for your compiler to explicitly include the
> kernel headers you care about.
> (-I/home/dmaze/src/kernel-source-2.4.20, or some such)
> 
> > I mean, why glibc also defines something that is strictly related to
> > the kernel itself? I thought that everything inside libc6 concerning
> > kernel stuff was taken directly from the kernel source includes
> > instead of redeclared...
> 
> See /usr/share/doc/libc6/README.Debian.gz.
> 
> -- 
> David Maze [EMAIL PROTECTED]  http://people.debian.org/~dmaze/
> "Theoretical politics is interesting.  Politicking should be illegal."
>   -- Abra Mitchell
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Re: newbie's question: how to undo dselect

[Brian McGroarty]

On Fri, Jun 06, 2003 at 10:54:15AM -0700, Robert Fu wrote:
> Thanks you all for your help!
> 
> One of my friends helped me with a workaround, which
> is to use apt-get to install the packages I want. I'll
> wait for Colin's patch for dselect, and clean up the
> mess later. It seems I should mostly use apt-get from
> now on.


Sorry I'm coming into this late.


I would run dselect, then cursor to the head line for the installed
package group, hit "+" to select that whole tree, and hit shift-Q to
ignore any extra changes it prescribes from that.

Then, I would cursor to the head of the uninstalled packages, hit "_"
and again shift-Q.

Those two steps should revert everything to wanting to be in
the system's currently installed state.

If there's a section at the very top with updated packages, you'll
probably want to "+" that group as well, and if there's a newly
available section, you may want to "-" that group and hand-pick
anything you really want to add.

If you leave dselect and go back in, you should be fine, assuming
you're not looking at a legitimate large update from a KDE version
bump or similar.


For better management in the future, once you get the system the way
you want it, I'd install "debfoster." debfoster which does a wonderful
job of helping you keep your intended packages straight. If you get a
chain of things you don't really want installed from suggestions, you
can find and prune those.


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Re: testing -- kdebase-audiolibs dependency

[Carlos Sousa]

On Fri, 06 Jun 2003 12:34:28 -0600 Harshwardhan Nagaonkar wrote:
> Hello all,
>I have been trying to upgrade a testing system for about 2 weeks now. 
> I have noticed that there is this following issue:
[...]
> #apt-get upgrade
> Reading Package Lists... Done
> Building Dependency Tree... Done
> Calculating Upgrade... Failed
> Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies:
>kde: Depends: kdebase-audiolibs but it is not going to be installed or
>  kdebase3-audiolibs but it is not installable
> E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be 
> caused by held packages.
[...]
> If I try to fix this manually with:
[...]
> #apt-get install kdebase3-audiolibs
[...]
> E: Package kdebase3-audiolibs has no installation candidate
[...]
> So then I tried this:
[...]
> #apt-get install kdebase-audiolibs
[...]
> Sorry, kdebase-audiolibs is already the newest version.
[...]

Happened to me also, see bug #194224 ( http://bugs.debian.org/194224 )

The problem went away when I uninstalled kdebase-audiolibs. You'll lose
packages kde (virtual, no harm done) and kdebase-dev (development, not
needed for kde usage).

Also, upgrading to kde 3.1.2 in unstable will take care of it, but that's
a whole new ballgame...

HTH,

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Re: dpkg-reconfigure ntp-simple not working?

[Dale Hair]

On Fri, 2003-06-06 at 13:30, cfactor wrote:
> On Fri, 06 Jun 2003 19:40:05 +0200, Dale Hair wrote:
> 
> > I think you would have to apt-get remove --purge ntp-simple for the
> > install to create a new ntp.conf file
> 
> Yup, done that as well.  :p  I'm really stumpted...
> 
> John
> 

Have you purged ntp, ntpdate, & ntp-simple and made sure the files
/etc/ntp.conf & /etc/default/ntp.servers were deleted before
reinstalling?  If so then you should probably just create the config
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Re: cupsys works, lpr does not

[Jamin W. Collins]

On Fri, Jun 06, 2003 at 02:15:46PM -0400, Emma Jane Hogbin wrote:
> I've been trying to get my printer working again and it does not want to
> print pages. I can print a "test page" from cups (through a web browser)
> but I couldn't print any actual pages because "lpr" didn't want
> to/couldn't read my /etc/printcap file.

Have you install the "cupsys-bsd" package?  You'll need to for lpr to
work with cups.

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Re: Mounting an NFS disk with knoppix hard disk install

[J F]

Sadly, I have rlogin on old machine and
ssh on new machine.
$ rlogin maui
ssh: connect to host maui port 22: Connection refused
It is a great suggestion since I just want to copy the whole
6G partition onto spare space on my new 80G hard drive.


Kevin Mark wrote:
On Fri, 2003-06-06 at 00:56, J F wrote:

Mounting an old NFS disk with my new knoppix hard disk install.

My old linux machine has files on it and I would
like to rcp or copy the files over.

Why not just use ssh? 
-K


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Re: cupsys works, lpr does not

[Greg Madden]

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On Friday 06 June 2003 10:15 am, Emma Jane Hogbin wrote:
> I've been trying to get my printer working again and it does not want to
> print pages. I can print a "test page" from cups (through a web browser)
> but I couldn't print any actual pages because "lpr" didn't want
> to/couldn't read my /etc/printcap file.
>
> The printcap file was not updated by cupsys. So I decided to install
> printtool to see if it would fix things. Of course it didn't, so now I'm
> trying to go back to cupsys. I get the following error message though:
>
> debian:/home/emmajane# apt-get install cupsys
> Reading Package Lists... Done
> Building Dependency Tree... Done
> The following extra packages will be installed:
>   debconf debconf-utils debhelper gcc-3.3-base gettext gs-esp
> libcupsimage2
>   libcupsys2 libdb3 libgcc1 libgcrypt1 libgimpprint1 libgnutls5 liblzo1
>   libopencdk4 libpam-modules libpam0g libpopt0 libstdc++5 libtasn1-0
> passwd
>   po-debconf
> The following packages will be REMOVED:
>   cupsys-pstoraster lpr-ppd modconf pppoeconf whiptail
> The following NEW packages will be installed:
>   cupsys gcc-3.3-base gettext gs-esp libcupsimage2 libgcc1 libgcrypt1
>   libgnutls5 liblzo1 libopencdk4 libstdc++5 libtasn1-0 po-debconf
> 10 packages upgraded, 13 newly installed, 5 to remove and 156  not
> upgraded.
> Need to get 0B/8865kB of archives. After unpacking 14.3MB will be used.
> Do you want to continue? [Y/n]
> E: This installation run will require temporarily removing the essential
> package libpam-modules due to a Conflicts/Pre-Depends loop. This is often
> bad, but if you really want to do it, activate the APT::Force-LoopBreak
> option.
> E: Internal Error, Could not early remove libpam-modules
>
>
> SoI guess I need to "active the APT::Force-LoopBreak"? Or something?
> I tried apt-get remove libpam-modules but aborted that pretty quickly
> when I saw what it was going to remove.
>
> Any ideas?
>
>
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The best success I think is having 'only' cups installed, no LPR stuff 
installed. From your account it seems cups worked from the browser tool but 
it appears you had LPR stuff installed at the same time. Start fresh,  
purge all printing systems except cups. It looks like you are not using 
Woody so I can't say how to fix the conflicts issue.

Cups uses a different printcap file, /etc/printcap.cups. I
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Re: cupsys works, lpr does not

[Emma Jane Hogbin]

On Fri, Jun 06, 2003 at 01:01:50PM -0600, Harshwardhan Nagaonkar wrote:
> However I did get it to work by adding a line in my /etc/apt/apt.conf

Perfect!!

> worked for me. I also removed the "Loopbreak" after I was done since I 
> didn't want to leave options turned on which I don;t know about and 
> which are not turned on by default.

Will a # suffice to comment it out? I'm assuming that # is standard...but
assuming often gets me into trouble. ;)

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Re: [OT] ergonomic setups

[Vineet Kumar]

* Nori Heikkinen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030606 09:54]:
> hey debian folk,
> 
> i'd like your opinions/feedback about what kind of ergonomic setups
> you use at home and in the office.  as i mentioned a couple of days
> ago, i've been issued a laptop at work, and i can barely use it for
> the wrist strain.  i can have a desktop if i want, and i think i'm
> going to ask for one ... they're less convenient and less mobile, but
> i'd like to keep my wrists.

I hear you on that one.  I've found that the best way for my wrists is
to place the keyboard on my lap.  Unfortunately, for a laptop, that
means I'm looking almost straight down, which strains the neck.

If you don't need the portability, go with a desktop.  If you do want
the portability but will be spending most of your time at the desk, do
get a docking station.  Ideally, get a good monitor at a good eye-level,
and get a big-enough keyboard (the little laptop keyboards make me bend
my hands in fnuny ways) to use on your lap.  Of course, that's what's
comfortable for me; it may or may not work for you.

Also, the water suggestion is a good one.

> do you all use some combination of careful keyboard height/placement,
> a good chair, and a good keyboard?  is there some other component that
> you take into account?  i'm interested in whatever you do to make your
> work area more ergonomically sound.

I'm not all that careful about keyboard placement; I just plop it down
on my lap.  I usually bounce my knees, too, and I've developed a strange
habit of sometimes typing just by moving my fingers into the right
places while bouncing they keyboard up and down on my knees.  Bizarre,
really.  At home I use a Dell QuietKey keyboard.  I like it enough.  At
work, I'm using a thinkpad.  I dislike it for the reasons I gave above,
but portability is critical on this job.  I generally put it on the
desk and raise my chair up too high.  This can result in sore calves
without frequent-enough breaks, but this is more tolerable than sore
wrists, IMO.

Aso for other components, depending on your workplace (and if you're
taking that laptop on the plane, definitely), you might think about
sound and noise.  (mmm ... bose noise-canceling headphones )

good times,
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Re: dpkg-reconfigure ntp-simple not working?

[Mike Dresser]

On Fri, 6 Jun 2003, cfactor wrote:

> Yup, done that as well.  :p  I'm really stumpted...

If you have ntp installed, it will use/steal/abuse ntp-simple's config
file and might cause the problem you're having.

I've ran into where removing either ntp/ntpdate or ntp-simple will blow
away the ntp.conf file, leaving the other package broken since it can no
longer sync.

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Re: cupsys works, lpr does not

[Harshwardhan Nagaonkar]

Emma Jane Hogbin wrote:

E: This installation run will require temporarily removing the essential
package libpam-modules due to a Conflicts/Pre-Depends loop. This is often
bad, but if you really want to do it, activate the APT::Force-LoopBreak
option.
E: Internal Error, Could not early remove libpam-modules
SoI guess I need to "active the APT::Force-LoopBreak"? Or something? I
tried apt-get remove libpam-modules but aborted that pretty quickly when I
saw what it was going to remove.

Heheh, I had the same feeling when I tried to remove libpam-modules 
manually!

However I did get it to work by adding a line in my /etc/apt/apt.conf

**/etc/apt/apt.confcontains 2 lines as shown**
Acquire::http::Proxy "http://getyourownproxy.dontusemine";*** already 
there previously
APT::Force-LoopBreak "true";**this line is what I added
**

I found this out from a brief look at $man apt.conf and by following the 
advice in the error from apt. It may not be the best thing, but it 
worked for me. I also removed the "Loopbreak" after I was done since I 
didn't want to leave options turned on which I don;t know about and 
which are not turned on by default.

I am also sure someone else more knowledgeable on this list will explain 
why this happened and other interesting details about this. I just found 
out how to fix it :)

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Connecting to a WinCE based PDA

[Timo -Blazko- Boewing]

Hello together,

I have been searcing the web a long time, but could not find much
information. I was given a Windows CE based pocket pc (why not an
ipaq?!?). Although it has got a card slot (MMC / SD), i wonder if i can
communicate with this device via USB. I mean, it must not be data sync
with my apps, but just plain data transmission.

This device can be connected via USB serial on /dev/ttyUSB0, and there
is an app called "minicom" that can be used to talk to that pocket pc.
However, you have to use AT commands - thus it seems to be usefull for
using that thing as a modem. However, i just want to use it for copying
data.
Has anyone experiences and application hints on doing that?

The device:

USB major:  0bb4 (High Tech Computer Corp.)
USB minor:  00ce

This pocket pc is sold by - as:
- O2XDA GSM/GPRS Pocket PC
- OrangeSPV
- T-Mobile  MDA

Thank you for any hints!!!


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JSP, emacs y mmm-mode

[Luis Fernando Llana Díaz]

Hola,
  He visto que para editar JSP con emacs hay un modo llamado mmm-mode que 
permite convinar los modos del JDE y del HTML. Me he leido y releido las 
instrucciones de instalación y no consigo que funcione. He puesto las línea

(setq mmm-global-mode 'maybe)

en mi .emacs y no funciona, después he puesto 
(mmm-add-group 'jsp
 `((jsp-code
:submode java
:match-face (("<%!" . mmm-declaration-submode-face)
 ("<%=" . mmm-output-submode-face)
 ("<%"  . mmm-code-submode-face))
:front "<%[!=]?"
:back "%>"
:insert ((?% jsp-code nil @ "<%" @ " " _ " " @ "%>" @)
 (?! jsp-declaration nil @ "<%!" @ " " _ " " @ "%>" @)
 (?= jsp-expression nil @ "<%=" @ " " _ " " @ "%>" @))
)
   (jsp-directive
:submode text-mode
:face mmm-special-submode-face
:front "<%@"
:back "%>"
:insert ((?@ jsp-directive nil @ "<%@" @ " " _ " " @ "%>" @))
)))

y la cosa sigue sin funcionar. Por favor, ¡¡¡Ayuda!!!

Besos:
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What is the best TV-Out Card???

[Jake Johnson]

Hi All,
I am going to be buying a new video card soon and I want to watch divx
movies on my TV from my Computer.  What is the best card on the market in
terms of configuration and features?

Thanks,

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Re: a problem when use 'apt-get install' command install 'mysql-server',help !!

[Jake Johnson]

Why don't you just try apt-get update; apt-get upgrade;

This will ensure that all your programs are current on your system.

Jake Johnson
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On Thu, 5 Jun 2003, Jojo wrote:

> hi, all
>
>   I had got a 'apt-install error' problem when I used command:
>
>   "apt-get -u install mysql-server mysql-client"
>
>   Could you help me ??
>
>   it tips me:
>
> laptop:~# apt-get -u install mysql-server mysql-client
> Reading Package Lists... Done
> Building Dependency Tree... Done
> The following NEW packages will be installed:
>   mysql-client mysql-server
> 0 packages upgraded, 2 newly installed, 0 to remove and 11  not upgraded.
> Need to get 0B/2946kB of archives. After unpacking 8032kB will be used.
> Preconfiguring packages ...
> Selecting previously deselected package mysql-client.
> (Reading database ... 19449 files and directories currently installed.)
> Unpacking mysql-client (from .../mysql-client_3.23.51-1woody5_i386.deb) ...
> Selecting previously deselected package mysql-server.
> Unpacking mysql-server (from .../mysql-server_3.23.51-1woody5_i386.deb) ...
> Setting up mysql-client (3.23.51-1woody5) ...
>
> Setting up mysql-server (3.23.51-1woody5) ...
> Stopping MySQL database server: mysqld.
> dpkg: error processing mysql-server (--configure):
>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
> Errors were encountered while processing:
>  mysql-server
> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
>
>
>
>   I try use "apt-get remove mysql-server", "dpkg -l mysql-server"
>
>
> laptop:~# dpkg -l mysql-server
> Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
> | Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed
> |/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
> ||/ NameVersion Description
> +++-===-===-==
> iF  mysql-server3.23.51-1woody5 mysql database server 
> binaries
>
>
>
> --
> Best Regards
>
> Jojo
>
>
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testing -- kdebase-audiolibs dependency

[Harshwardhan Nagaonkar]

Hello all,
  I have been trying to upgrade a testing system for about 2 weeks now. 
I have noticed that there is this following issue:


#apt-get upgrade
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Calculating Upgrade... Failed
Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies:
  kde: Depends: kdebase-audiolibs but it is not going to be installed or
kdebase3-audiolibs but it is not installable
E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be 
caused by held packages.


If I try to fix this manually with:

*
#apt-get install kdebase3-audiolibs
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Package kdebase3-audiolibs has no available version, but exists in the 
database.
This typically means that the package was mentioned in a dependency and
never uploaded, has been obsoleted or is not available with the contents
of sources.list
E: Package kdebase3-audiolibs has no installation candidate
**

So then I tried this:
***
#apt-get install kdebase-audiolibs
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Sorry, kdebase-audiolibs is already the newest version.
0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 64  not upgraded.

I remember checking more into this about 2 weeks ago. Somehow after some 
digging, I stumbled on to some libvorbis dependency stuff for 
kdebase-audiolibs in which one vorbis package was getting replaced by 
about 2-3 other vorbis related packages.

So I decided to wait it out since it takes some time for all the 
packages to get sorted out in testing and I certainly do not expect 
every apt-get upgrade to go smoothly in testing. (but I do in unstable :)

Anyone have any pointers as to if this issue can be solved. In any case, 
I am just going to wait for it work itself out over the next few 
days/weeks or so. So I can just wait, but if there is a solution out 
there, I would like to use it!

Thanks for all the great help,
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Re: exim

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* [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030606 05:24]:
> 2. How can I tell exim to relay (accept email) the 10.100.0.0/255.255.0.0 network?

host_accept_relay = 10.100.0.0/16

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Re: dpkg-reconfigure ntp-simple not working?

[cfactor]

On Fri, 06 Jun 2003 19:40:05 +0200, Dale Hair wrote:

> I think you would have to apt-get remove --purge ntp-simple for the
> install to create a new ntp.conf file

Yup, done that as well.  :p  I'm really stumpted...

John


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cupsys works, lpr does not

[Emma Jane Hogbin]

I've been trying to get my printer working again and it does not want to
print pages. I can print a "test page" from cups (through a web browser)
but I couldn't print any actual pages because "lpr" didn't want
to/couldn't read my /etc/printcap file.

The printcap file was not updated by cupsys. So I decided to install
printtool to see if it would fix things. Of course it didn't, so now I'm
trying to go back to cupsys. I get the following error message though:

debian:/home/emmajane# apt-get install cupsys
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
The following extra packages will be installed:
  debconf debconf-utils debhelper gcc-3.3-base gettext gs-esp
libcupsimage2
  libcupsys2 libdb3 libgcc1 libgcrypt1 libgimpprint1 libgnutls5 liblzo1
  libopencdk4 libpam-modules libpam0g libpopt0 libstdc++5 libtasn1-0
passwd
  po-debconf 
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  cupsys-pstoraster lpr-ppd modconf pppoeconf whiptail 
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  cupsys gcc-3.3-base gettext gs-esp libcupsimage2 libgcc1 libgcrypt1
  libgnutls5 liblzo1 libopencdk4 libstdc++5 libtasn1-0 po-debconf 
10 packages upgraded, 13 newly installed, 5 to remove and 156  not
upgraded.
Need to get 0B/8865kB of archives. After unpacking 14.3MB will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] 
E: This installation run will require temporarily removing the essential
package libpam-modules due to a Conflicts/Pre-Depends loop. This is often
bad, but if you really want to do it, activate the APT::Force-LoopBreak
option.
E: Internal Error, Could not early remove libpam-modules


SoI guess I need to "active the APT::Force-LoopBreak"? Or something? I
tried apt-get remove libpam-modules but aborted that pretty quickly when I
saw what it was going to remove.

Any ideas?


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Re: [Alsa-user] Re: bizarre ALSA problems with SBLive... -- SOLVED

[Nathan Poznick]

Thus spake Greg Norris:
> I couldn't find any relevant technical docs at Dell's site, but
> according to their FAQ it uses the "EMU10K1X software-accelerated
> Digital Signal Processor".  The card lists the model as SB0200, and the
> chip has "EMU10K1X-DBQ" printed on it.  Apparently there's also a
> SB0203 model, which is just a minor revision.

The emu10k1 driver doesn't support it... to the best of my knowledge,
the only Linux driver for it can be found at:
http://www.opensound.com/linux-x86.html
It's not an open source driver however.  It's neither Free nor free.
http://www.opensound.com/readme/README.EMU10K1X.html  for a little
information on that specific card.  A co-worker of mine purchased the
drivers from them, but has not been satisfied with the sound quality.
Last I'd heard, he was going to purchase a separate _normal_ sblive pci
card and use it instead.


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Re: How to unsubscribe?

[Vineet Kumar]

* Jamin W. Collins ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030605 22:53]:
> On Thu, Jun 05, 2003 at 10:02:05PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
> > On Thu, Jun 05, 2003 at 09:57:48PM -0600, Jamin W. Collins wrote:
> > > FWIW, I don't see the header on this end either.
> > 
> > OK, here's the headers I got from your message...the very first line
> > of the headers is rarely inaccurate unless we're dealing with spam.

Just to be pedantic, it's not really the first line of the headers.
It's actually envelope information, which may or may not (depending on
the MTA and its configuration) appear in the message once it's been
delivered.  Generally, yes, it is stuck on the top of the message on a
line starting with "From ", especially for mbox deliveries.

> > From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Jun 05 21:16:39 2003
> > Received: from mail by ursine.ca with spam-scanned (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian))
> > id 19O8ec-0001Sy-00
> > for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 05 Jun 2003 21:16:39 -0700
> 
> Here are the headers on my end from your message, no bounce address header:
> 
> Received: (qmail 3670 invoked from network); 6 Jun 2003 05:20:26 -
> Received: from unknown (HELO murphy.debian.org) (146.82.138.6)
>   by forseti.asgardsrealm.net with SMTP; 6 Jun 2003 05:20:26 -
> Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1])
> by murphy.debian.org (Postfix) with QMQP
> id 30D8C1F58D; Fri,  6 Jun 2003 00:20:20 -0500 (CDT)
> Old-Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

qmail generally puts this info in Return-Path:.  You don't necessarily
have an mbox "From " line unless you're delivering to an mbox (and even
then, it's not necessarily correct; for example, some fetchmail
(mis?)configurations have been known to clobber it).  My exim setup
doesn't include "From " lines at all in Maildir deliveries, but I do
have it add a few headers with the envelope information:

Return-path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Envelope-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Delivery-date: Thu, 05 Jun 2003 22:53:33 -0700

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Re: Galeon 1.3.4

[Bill Moseley]

On Fri, Jun 06, 2003 at 03:23:45PM +0100, Pigeon wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 05, 2003 at 03:59:42PM +, Jason Lunz wrote:
> > I haven't found a solution for this one. For now I've been using google
> > as my home page.
> 
> What else would you possibly want as your home page? :-)

  file:///usr/share/doc/mozilla-browser/localstart.html



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Re: newbie's question: how to undo dselect

[Robert Fu]

Thanks you all for your help!

One of my friends helped me with a workaround, which
is to use apt-get to install the packages I want. I'll
wait for Colin's patch for dselect, and clean up the
mess later. It seems I should mostly use apt-get from
now on.

Thanks a lot,
Robert Fu

--- Ben Kal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 4 Jun 2003 Robert Fu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > I'm a newbie to Debian Linux. Somehow I made a
> mistake, and now whenever I
> > run dselect, it'll try to uninstall about 200 KDE
> packages. Thus I cannot
> > install or remove any package without risk of
> messing up the whole system.
> 
> I ran into the same problem last year.
> 
> > It seems to be a lot of work to manually re-select
> the 200 KDE packages in
> > dselect. I hope there is way to reset package
> selection in dselect so that
> > I can keep current installed packages and install
> new packages. I did some
> > search, and cannot find a solution.
> 
> I could not either.
> 
> > I saw somebody submitted Bug#35639: dpkg: No undo
> for operations in
> > dselect
> >
>
(http://lists.debian.org/debian-dpkg/1999/debian-dpkg-199904/msg9.html).
> > It seems the bug was closed without any code
> changes. 
> 
> Probably what we both dream of, a command to force
> the package management
> system to clean up a dependencies mess while
> retaining most if not all of
> the packages we need, is just too tall an order.
> 
> > Does anyone know how to undo dselect after
> mistakes are made in previous
> > execution of dselect?
> 
> Unfortunately, I do not. In the end, what I did was
> back up all user data,
> configuration files, downloaded programs and the
> like, reinstalled Linux
> from scratch, restored the backed up data, and never
> used dselect again
> as anything else than a tool to VIEW information on
> packages.
> 
> The commands I use the most for package management
> are apt-get, apt-cache,
> dpkg and dpkg-deb. The number of flags and options
> you have to remember is
> a bit annoying, but you have more control over what
> happens than with
> dselect.
> 
> But I would be still be grateful if some wizard were
> to reveal that there
> IS a powerful 'packages clean up' command after all.
> 
> Ben
> 
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Apply a linux patch to a Debian kernel

[Joe User]

Hi,

I would like to install kernel.org's prepatch 2.4.21-rc7.  I currently
have Debian's 2.4.20 (from kernel-source using kernel-package).  I
noticed that changes were made to the 2.4.20 source to "Debianize" it.

How do I go about applying the patch?  Can I patch the Debian source?
Should I get origional kernel source and patch that, and if so, do I
need to "Debianize" it somehow??   Something else?


Thanks,
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Re: exim + mutt

[Dave Sherohman]

On Fri, Jun 06, 2003 at 03:03:25PM +0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Although I am using Debian for a long time now, I have some problems on a new 
> installation:
> 
> 1. mutt opens the mail folders of a user in read-only mode. How can I change it?

Are the mail folders in an NFS-mounted directory?  If so, you need to
switch the NFS server over to using the kernel-space NFS daemon
(which will require rebuilding the kernel with NFS support if it's not
already there) because the user-space NFS daemon doesn't support file
locking and mutt will refuse to write to files it can't lock.

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Re: Galeon 1.3.4

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On Thu, Jun 05, 2003 at 03:59:42PM +, Jason Lunz wrote:
> I haven't found a solution for this one. For now I've been using google
> as my home page.

What else would you possibly want as your home page? :-)

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Re: Backporting of debhelper: loops in dependencies !?

[Colin Watson]

On Fri, Jun 06, 2003 at 12:10:45PM -0400, David Z Maze wrote:
> I don't actually know whether the testing scripts check build-depends
> or not;

They don't, currently. Even so, gradual upgrades of debconf and
debhelper in step would have got around such a restriction.

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