Re: Re: scsi tape drive - debian package

2003-09-17 Thread ross74
Thanks for responding everyone !

I found a very good tar script which I want to utilise, but I think I need to take a 
step back.
I think I'm missing something, everyone is mentioning, your tape device should 
be /dev/tape or /dev/st0  etc.. 

The only things I have under /dev/ are:
/dev/
MAKEDEV  ataraid  ccissfd   ida  inputprinter  pts  rd   usb

I'm not sure if it's there ?  ^above.

When I issue this command, it shows the tape drive there though.

 cat /proc/scsi/scsi
Attached devices:
Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 06 Lun: 00
  Vendor: DELL Model: 1x4 U2W SCSI BP  Rev: 5.35
  Type:   ProcessorANSI SCSI revision: 02
Host: scsi0 Channel: 02 Id: 00 Lun: 00
  Vendor: MegaRAID Model: LD0 RAID5 69356R Rev: 1.01
  Type:   Direct-AccessANSI SCSI revision: 02
Host: scsi1 Channel: 00 Id: 09 Lun: 00
  Vendor: SONY Model: SDX-300C Rev: 0400
  Type:   Sequential-AccessANSI SCSI revision: 02
Host: scsi2 Channel: 00 Id: 05 Lun: 00
  Vendor: NEC  Model: CD-ROM DRIVE:466 Rev: 1.06
  Type:   CD-ROM   ANSI SCSI revision: 02


Am I missing something ?

Thanks all !

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> Andrew Schulman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > 
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > I recently attached a SCSI tape drive to my raid box running
> Debian.
> > It's a  SONY Model: SDX-300C
> > 
> > I was hoping someone could point me in the right direction on how
> to get
> > it working, backing up.
> > I had a look at Amanda, that looked very complicated for me !
> > 
> > Is there a simpler software package ?
> 
> Try tar.  When I first got my tape drive, I tried a lot of fancy
> graphical
> backup utilities: Perfect Backup, Arkeia, and others.  But like you,
> my
> needs are simple.  In the end I just wrote a shell script to call
> tar. 
> It's completely adequate for my needs.
> 
> Remember, the most important thing a tape drive can do is to protect
> you in
> case of catastrophe, i.e. hard disk crash.  In that event, you may
> not have
> X working, you may be working in a very minimal environment after
> booting
> from a rescue disk.  tar will be there for you, but will you be able
> to run
> Arkeia or Amanda?
> 
> While we're on the subject, consider building a custom rescue CDROM. 
> There
> are several of them out there.  I followed and modified the
> instructions at
> http://www.phenix.bnl.gov/~purschke/RescueCD/, with good results. 
> With one
> of these you can boot your system from CD and be in a good position
> to call
> tar to get your files back.
> 
> Good luck!
> Andrew.
> 



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Re: grub/lilo question

2003-09-17 Thread Vineet Kumar
* Victory ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030917 13:51]:
> Some one please let me know the advantage/disadvantage
> about grub/lilo ext2/ext3.

Please don't post questions to the list by replying to unrelated posts.
While you changed the subject of your message to something appropriate,
your message includes headers (In-Reply-To and References) marking it as
a reply to the unrelated message.

This screws up people using mail readers capable of displaying the
threaded nature of the mailing list (which I advise you to use as well;
I can't imagine following a list of this volume without it!).  The
programs that run to generate the mailing list archives on the web also
display the messages sorted and referenced by thread, so stringing
together unrelated messages in the same thread is distracting and
potentially confusing to later readers of the archives as well.

If you don't understand what I'm talking about with threading, please go
see the list archives on the web.

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patch for bind, on verisign's act..

2003-09-17 Thread Louie Miranda

http://www.isc.org/products/BIND/delegation-only.html

Do we have a patch already?


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Re: grub/lilo question

2003-09-17 Thread Vineet Kumar
* Clive Menzies ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030917 14:50]:
> On (17/09/03 16:46), Victory wrote:
> > Some one please let me know the advantage/disadvantage
> > about grub/lilo ext2/ext3.
> > 
> 
> As I understand it lilo is the official debian bootloader [...]

default != official.

my grub systems are no less debian than any lilo systems!

IMO, grub is vastly superior to LILO.  The ability to reconfigure
everything at run-time is one of those features that you just can't go
back from.  LILO gets the job done for day-to-day work, generally, but
whenever you have to reconfigure the boot loader, if you're working
with a grub system, you're a much happier camper.

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Moz Firebird's dropdown list

2003-09-17 Thread Oki DZ
Hi,

How do you clear the dropdown lists created by Firebird? (eg: the lists
created on login forms).

Thanks in advance,
Oki


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Re: ssh + X11

2003-09-17 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 20:48:10 -0400, 
Rodrigo Valenzuela <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> hi everyone:
>   When i connect via ssh to my computers it goes fine, but when i
>   tried'startx ' it complains with
> 'X: user noy authorized to tun the x server'.  Obviously the user can
> startx with no complain when sitting in front of the computer, so it
> is authorized. 
> What is missing? Any comments? Pointers?

..next time, 'ssh -X [EMAIL PROTECTED]'.
 
> ps: is this the best option in order to access my desktop remotely,
> and do all the stuff I'm used to?
> thanks in advance

..you could run Xnest as an "app", chk the docs.

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Re: scsi tape drive - debian package

2003-09-17 Thread Andrew Schulman




> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I recently attached a SCSI tape drive to my raid box running Debian.
> It's a  SONY Model: SDX-300C
> 
> I was hoping someone could point me in the right direction on how to get
> it working, backing up.
> I had a look at Amanda, that looked very complicated for me !
> 
> Is there a simpler software package ?

Try tar.  When I first got my tape drive, I tried a lot of fancy graphical
backup utilities: Perfect Backup, Arkeia, and others.  But like you, my
needs are simple.  In the end I just wrote a shell script to call tar. 
It's completely adequate for my needs.

Remember, the most important thing a tape drive can do is to protect you in
case of catastrophe, i.e. hard disk crash.  In that event, you may not have
X working, you may be working in a very minimal environment after booting
from a rescue disk.  tar will be there for you, but will you be able to run
Arkeia or Amanda?

While we're on the subject, consider building a custom rescue CDROM.  There
are several of them out there.  I followed and modified the instructions at
http://www.phenix.bnl.gov/~purschke/RescueCD/, with good results.  With one
of these you can boot your system from CD and be in a good position to call
tar to get your files back.

Good luck!
Andrew.



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Re: Creating an diskimage of a debian system

2003-09-17 Thread Carla Schroder
On Wednesday 17 September 2003 8:57 pm, Karsten M. Self wrote:
> on Mon, Sep 15, 2003 at 03:33:32PM +0200, Jasper Metselaar 
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have a Debian testing system and would like to make a backup (image) of
> > it, so I can easily restore the system when I've messed things up.I
> > searched through the list archives, but the messages I found are
> > rather old.What's currently the best way to make an image of a debian
> > system?

My fave backup method is using Star and rsync, and backing up to another hard 
drive. It's fast and easy, and hard drives are so cheap you can have all the 
redundancy you want for not a lot of money.

Star is like Gnu tar, but IMO way better, 
http://www.fokus.gmd.de/research/cc/glone/employees/joerg.schilling/private/star.html

If you want to set up and configure your perfect system, then make bootable 
CDs from it, see http://tldp.net/HOWTO/Bootdisk-HOWTO/

If you're thinking of creating something like a Norton Ghost image, I don't 
know if there is a Linux equivalent.

>
> Please set your mailer/editor linewrap to 68-75 characters.  I strongly
> recommend 72 as a good default.
>

It reads fine in Kmail. Maybe your reader is funky. 

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Re: how to revert unstable package upgrade?

2003-09-17 Thread Travis Crump
Ivan Nestlerode wrote:
Hello debian-user,

I'm running Debian unstable and I would like to revert one package
upgrade that I did earlier this week.
I upgraded to version 0.6.1-5 of mozilla-firebird. After some testing
and attempts to do basic things with bookmarks, I've found it much too buggy
(the bugs are reported; I'm not ignoring them). Ideally, I would like to go
back to version 0.6.1-4.
Is there somewhere where I could find the i386 .deb file for version
0.6.1-4?
So to recap my questions:
1) Is there a secret place with the 0.6.1-4 i386 .deb?
There is a not so secret place: 


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how to revert unstable package upgrade?

2003-09-17 Thread Ivan Nestlerode
Hello debian-user,

I'm running Debian unstable and I would like to revert one package
upgrade that I did earlier this week.

I upgraded to version 0.6.1-5 of mozilla-firebird. After some testing
and attempts to do basic things with bookmarks, I've found it much too buggy
(the bugs are reported; I'm not ignoring them). Ideally, I would like to go
back to version 0.6.1-4.

Is there somewhere where I could find the i386 .deb file for version
0.6.1-4?

I tried looking in the pool at http://http.us.debian.org.
I did not find a .deb for 0.6.1-4. However, I found the .diff.gz and the
.dsc file for 0.6.1-4 which I thought was enough to recreate the source
for that version. But despite my best efforts, the build from source
failed.

The exact steps I followed:

1. downloaded these files (from http://http.us.debian.org/pool/m/...)
mozilla-firebird_0.6.1-4.diff.gz
mozilla-firebird_0.6.1-4.dsc
mozilla-firebird_0.6.1.orig.tar.gz

2. got the build depencies

As root, I did/saw:
# apt-get build-dep mozilla-firebird
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  libatk1.0-dev libglib2.0-dev libgtk2.0-dev libidl-dev liblinc-dev liblinc1
  liborbit2 liborbit2-dev libpango1.0-dev libpopt-dev sharutils
0 upgraded, 11 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
...

The 1 not upgraded is because I have libruby on hold (unrelated).

I think this was using the Build-Depends from 0.6.1-5 (since that is the
version shown by "apt-cache showsrc mozilla-firebird"). To double check, I
looked at the 0.6.1-4.dsc file and it had the same Build-Depends, so that
shouldn't be the issue.

3. extracted the source package

In the directory with the three files (src package), I did/saw this:
$ dpkg-source x mozilla-firebird_0.6.1-4.dsc
dpkg-source: extracting mozilla-firebird in mozilla-firebird-0.6.1

4. tried to build (from mozilla-firebird-0.6.1 directory)
$ dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -uc -b >../make.log 2>&1

It was long and it ended with errors. I can send make.log if it is
interesting, but the first few lines said this:
dpkg-buildpackage: source package is mozilla-firebird
dpkg-buildpackage: source version is 0.6.1-4
dpkg-buildpackage: source maintainer is Eric Dorland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
dpkg-buildpackage: host architecture is i386
 fakeroot debian/rules clean
...

The errors at the end said this:
/usr/bin/make -C config export
make[2]: Entering directory `/space/mozilla-firebird-0.6.1/config'
nsinstall.c
gcc -o host_nsinstall.o -c -DXP_UNIX -pipe MOZ_OPTIMIZE_LDFLAGS =-I../dist/include 
-I../dist/include -I/space/mozilla-firebird-0.6.1/dist/include/nspr  -I/usr/include 
-I/usr/include -I/usr/include -I/space/mozilla-firebird-0.6.1/dist/include/nspr  
nsinstall.c
gcc: cannot specify -o with -c or -S and multiple compilations
make[2]: *** [host_nsinstall.o] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/space/mozilla-firebird-0.6.1/config'
make[1]: *** [default] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/space/mozilla-firebird-0.6.1'
make: *** [build-stamp] Error 2


The MOZ_OPTIMIZE_LDFLAGS shouldn't be there, and I tracked it down to
config/autoconf.mk having these line (with a bogus slash):
MOZ_OPTIMIZE_FLAGS = -pipe\
MOZ_OPTIMIZE_LDFLAGS =

The slash puts the "MOZ_OPTIMIZE_LDFLAGS =" garbage on the command line.
I don't think I've done anything wrong, but I could be mistaken.

So to recap my questions:
1) Is there a secret place with the 0.6.1-4 i386 .deb?
2) Why is this build from source not working (have I done something wrong)?

Please cc: me on replies as I'm not subscribed to the list.

Thanks,
-Ivan


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Re: rsyncing via cron

2003-09-17 Thread Vineet Kumar
* Andy Firman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030917 20:17]:
> On Wed, Sep 17, 2003 at 10:30:05AM -0700, Vineet Kumar wrote:
> > * Andy Firman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030917 10:18]:
> > > I have never used ssh-add but I am doing the same thing you are
> > > and I used this very nice how-to that you may find useful:
> > > 
> > > http://killyridols.net/rsyncssh.shtml
> > 
> > Careful with that one.  I just took a glance at it, and it recommends
> > using an unencrypted private key without a forced command on the remote
> > host's authorized_keys.  This isn't _all_ bad, but I'd say it could be
> > better, by adding some options in the remote host's authorized_keys to
> > prevent this key from being used for anything but rsync, and only from a
> > specified host.  I think I wrote up something about this on this list a
> > while back; try http://google.com/search?q=vineet+rsync+authorized_keys
> > .  If you can't find anything, let me know and I'll write it again.
> 
> I should have mentioned that I personally always do this "inside" a VPN tunnel.
> 
> Good point though...and thanks for the tip.  I never even thought
> about the key not being encrypted.
> 
> Some day when I can't use a VPN for some reason, I will look further
> into your recommendations.

Well the problem isn't the network, so a VPN doesn't help anything.  The
network traffic is still encrypted.  This key is used only for
authentication.  The danger is that if someone gets ahold of that file,
they have full root access on the remote machine.  Traditionally, a
private key has a passphrase, so that an attacker needs both the
encrypted private key file and the passphrase, especially for a key that
is authorized for root.  Using a forced command means that even if this
key falls into untrusted hands, they can't get a root shell with it.

This is really sort of a "belt and suspenders" thing.  Generally, for
most people, this type of security is good enough.  But sometimes it's
just worth doing right, for example if you're building this system on a
machine with some sub-100% trusted users.  If you're just talking about
your home network, you're probably fine.

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Re: Creating an diskimage of a debian system

2003-09-17 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Mon, Sep 15, 2003 at 03:33:32PM +0200, Jasper Metselaar ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I have a Debian testing system and would like to make a backup (image) of
> it, so I can easily restore the system when I've messed things up.I
> searched through the list archives, but the messages I found are
> rather old.What's currently the best way to make an image of a debian
> system?

Please set your mailer/editor linewrap to 68-75 characters.  I strongly
recommend 72 as a good default.


You don't want to "image" your system, you want to back it up.

There's a short FAQ on GNU/Linux system backups you may find useful, at:

http://kmself.home.netcom.com/Linux/FAQs/backups.html

Thank you.


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Re: xserver crashes on switching to vitual console

2003-09-17 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Mon, Sep 15, 2003 at 11:58:58AM +0300, Alphonse Ogulla ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Hi all,
> First problem; X runs on my machine pretty well but crashes moments later (as 
> a result of a "fatal server lockup") on switching to a virtual console with 
> the Ctrl+Alt+Fn keystroke. My system specs are as follows:-

This sort of behavior sounds like a server/driver selection or
configuration error.  I'd try a different driver, or a different
configuration.  I'm not specifically familiar with the i810 video card,
but understand that developing support has been an ongoing issue,
particularly from conversations with the LNX-BBC developers.

From your log, looks like a possible buffer overflow.

> Machine: Dell Optiplex GX10
> Operating System: Debian GNU/Linux 3.0r1 "woody" Kernel 2.4.21
> X -version: XFree86 version 4.1.0.1 (protocol version 11, revision 0)
> Video card: Onboard intel 810E
> 
> The full server log is appended to the end of this message for your perusal.
> 
> A similar installation on an equivalent machine but with an ATI Mach64 GB 
> graphics card does not suffer from this problem. A little bit of tweaking 
> XF86Config-4 like negating the UseFBDev option did not help much. Any 
> solutions?
> 
> Second problem, issuing the command startx, fires up KDE 3.1.3 by default. How 
> do I set some other light weight window manager like fvwm to run by default 
> without using a desktop manager like gdm? Actually, I love KDE but arts has 
> issues with my sound card - Aureal Vortex au8220 and therefore want to kick 
> start some other wm. 

$ edit ~/.xinitrc

$ update-alternatives x-window-manager

> 
> X server output-



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Re: mplayer package for sid?

2003-09-17 Thread jjluza
Le Jeudi 18 Septembre 2003 04:48, Peter S Galbraith a écrit :
> Anyone know of a packaged mplayer for sid?
>
> Thanks,
> Peter

add this line to your sources.list :
deb http://marillat.free.fr/ unstable main


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Re: Non-US Packages

2003-09-17 Thread Paul E Condon
On Wed, Sep 17, 2003 at 08:04:22PM -0700, Juan Pablo wrote:
> It's not clear to me what does Non-US mean?
> I read at
> http://www.debian.org/mirrors/list-non-US.html and I
> conclude it's about software wich is restricted to US
> (i.e. prohibited to export but available from other
> countries)
> But then I found 
> http://www.debian.org/mirror/mirrors_full.html and it
> says this are " packages that can't be distributed in
 ^^ 
Instead of "in", you should read "from". Distributing them from the US
_to_ some other part of the world would violate USA law. In order to
avoid conflicts with a great power, Debian distributes programs that
have this problem from servers that are located outside the USA.

> the US due to software patents or use of encryption."
> So, what's the truth?
> 

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person who provokes it can get hurt.

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Re: Question on make-kpkg

2003-09-17 Thread Paul E Condon
On Wed, Sep 17, 2003 at 10:54:34PM -0400, Neal Lippman wrote:
> I've been using make-kpkg to build my new kernel,playing around with
> 2.6.0-test2. (aside: Thanks to all who responded to my earlier request
> for help.I've got a bootable 2.6.0-test built, but now I need to play
> with the config a bit and figure out what's causing some of the errors
> during boot; at least it hasn't crashed in about 24 hrs so far, though).
> 
> Anyway, as I play with the config parameters, I'd like to be able to
> create kernel packages with different names to help keep track of what's
> what. This is helpful by labelling packages with the build date, and
> also with some info, esp as I will eventually build a package for a
> different architecture as well (I'm going to swap my MSI
> motherboard/Athlon process for a new ASUS MB and P4, and I'd like to
> prebuild the kernel and have it ready to boot).
> 
> Anyway, I started out by using:
> fakeroot make-kpkg append-to-version=.20030915 kernel_image
> because I first did the build on 9/15. Now, if I try to issue
> fakeroot make-kpkg append-to-version=.20030917 kernel_image, I get an

Did you run make-kpkg clean ?

> error message telling me that the changelog wants to build
> vmlinuz-2.6.0-test2.20030915 "but I thought I was building
> vmlinuz-2.6.0-test2.20030917"
> 
> I was expecting that I could keep using make-kpkg in a given linux
> source tree and change the append-to-version on each build, but
> obviously I don't understand something important about make-kpkg. The
> man page isn't really helping me out here.
> 
> Can anyone shed some light?
> 
> THanks.
> 
> nl
> 
> 
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Re: mplayer package for sid?

2003-09-17 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Wed, Sep 17, 2003 at 10:48:02PM -0400, Peter S Galbraith wrote:
| Anyone know of a packaged mplayer for sid?

deb http://marillat.free.fr/ unstable main

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Re: Non-US Packages

2003-09-17 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Wed, Sep 17, 2003 at 08:04:22PM -0700, Juan Pablo ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> It's not clear to me what does Non-US mean?
> I read at
> http://www.debian.org/mirrors/list-non-US.html and I
> conclude it's about software wich is restricted to US (i.e. prohibited
> to export but available from other countries)

It depends on the restrictions.

Prior to ITAR regulations revision,s it was legal to import, but illegal
to export, strong crypto from/to the the US.  The rational response, of
course, was that most crypto development migrated offshore.

Additional restrictions arise from patent and other restrictions.  

The non-US mirrors consist of _just_ the packages 

All told, this accounts to 224 packages per my count (stable, testing,
and unstable).


> But then I found 
> http://www.debian.org/mirror/mirrors_full.html and it
> says this are " packages that can't be distributed in the US due to
> software patents or use of encryption."

The full mirrors include _both_ the non-US and the unrestricted
packages.

> So, what's the truth?

Very expensive.

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Re: ssh + X11

2003-09-17 Thread Erik Steffl
Rodrigo Valenzuela wrote:
hi everyone:
	When i connect via ssh to my computers it goes fine, but when i tried
'startx ' it complains with
'X: user noy authorized to tun the x server'.  Obviously the user can
startx with no complain when sitting in front of the computer, so it is
authorized. 
What is missing? Any comments? Pointers?

ps: is this the best option in order to access my desktop remotely, and
do all the stuff I'm used to?
thanks in advance

  there's no need to start X on remote comupter, as long as you have X 
on local computer you can use ssh X forwarding to run X programs from 
remote machine and display them on local machine (ssh -X host.com, make 
sure that both client and server have X forwarding enabled)

  another option is vnc (it's basically an X server that you can view 
remotely, using vncviewer, the advantage is that if your connection goes 
down you can reconnect or if you want to connect from different location 
you can do tht as well)

	erik

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Re: Equation system resolver

2003-09-17 Thread tb . nospam
On Wed, Sep 17, 2003 at 09:48:58PM -0400, Nicolas wrote:
> Is there a equation system resolver in debian or linux in general?
> Basicly, I need to resolv equation systems or simplify very long and 
> complicated equations.
> 
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Re: CUPS insisting on completing print job

2003-09-17 Thread Cam Ellison
* Pigeon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 15, 2003 at 12:00:23PM -0700, Deryk Barker wrote:
> > I'm running woody with CUPs controlling an Epson C82.
> > 
> > Problem: while configuring and testing a PDF converter in Open Office
> > I accidentally sent a raw pdf file to the printer. 200+KB...
> > 

> (Though it's odd that it survived a reboot... not that I've ever tried
> that method of stopping it. Perhaps cupsd saves some state when you
> shut it down and resumes when you restart it, in order to avoid
> possibly losing print jobs???)
> 
> Why you can't do this from within CUPS I don't know...
> 
> (BTW my printers are "idle, accepting jobs" even when switched off
> and/or physically disconnected...)
> 

I usually kill all the processes, and then go into /var/spool/cups, and
wipe out both the certificate and the spool file (it will be the one
at the bottom of the list), having first shut off the printer.  That
usually seems to do it, though the last couple of times I also deleted
the job through localhost:631/admin.  Some of that is probably
overkill, but it works.

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Re: rsyncing via cron

2003-09-17 Thread Andy Firman
On Wed, Sep 17, 2003 at 10:30:05AM -0700, Vineet Kumar wrote:
> * Andy Firman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030917 10:18]:
> > I have never used ssh-add but I am doing the same thing you are
> > and I used this very nice how-to that you may find useful:
> > 
> > http://killyridols.net/rsyncssh.shtml
> 
> Careful with that one.  I just took a glance at it, and it recommends
> using an unencrypted private key without a forced command on the remote
> host's authorized_keys.  This isn't _all_ bad, but I'd say it could be
> better, by adding some options in the remote host's authorized_keys to
> prevent this key from being used for anything but rsync, and only from a
> specified host.  I think I wrote up something about this on this list a
> while back; try http://google.com/search?q=vineet+rsync+authorized_keys
> .  If you can't find anything, let me know and I'll write it again.

I should have mentioned that I personally always do this "inside" a VPN tunnel.

Good point though...and thanks for the tip.  I never even thought
about the key not being encrypted.

Some day when I can't use a VPN for some reason, I will look further
into your recommendations.

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Non-US Packages

2003-09-17 Thread Juan Pablo
It's not clear to me what does Non-US mean?
I read at
http://www.debian.org/mirrors/list-non-US.html and I
conclude it's about software wich is restricted to US
(i.e. prohibited to export but available from other
countries)
But then I found 
http://www.debian.org/mirror/mirrors_full.html and it
says this are " packages that can't be distributed in
the US due to software patents or use of encryption."
So, what's the truth?

Thanks,

Juan Pablo

P.S. Both pages say at the bottom "Last modified: Thu
Sep 11 17:27:35 2003" so it is not about a recent
change, isn't it?

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Re: Equation system resolver

2003-09-17 Thread Shyamal Prasad
"ripley" == ripley   writes:

ripley> Is there a equation system resolver in debian or linux in
ripley> general?  Basicly, I need to resolv equation systems or
ripley> simplify very long and complicated equations.

It's been a very long time since I've looked for stuff like this, but
GNU Octave is a Matlab like system that might be what you are looking
for. 

Cheers!
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mplayer package for sid?

2003-09-17 Thread Peter S Galbraith
Anyone know of a packaged mplayer for sid?

Thanks,
Peter


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X/Gnome2.2 Keyboard/Mouse issues

2003-09-17 Thread Matt McMinn
A while back, I acquired a Compaq 2105us laptop.  I decided to put linux on it.  Just to see if everything worked, I threw in the knoppix cd, and lo and behold, all was good, so I did a hard drive based install from knoppix.  Yesterday, I got sick of kde, gnome wouldn't install for some reason, so I backed up all the important stuff, trashed the partition, and installed from scratch.  Everything seemed to install fine, I had kept the .config from the 2.4.21 kernel I installed on the knoppix system, so I successfully upgraded to that with the same settings that I had on the old system.  I also kept the XF86Config-4 file, so using that, I am able to get X to start.  I'm using XF86 version 4.2.1 (from www.fs.tum.de/~bunk/debian) and Gnome 2.2 (from debian.uni-klu.ac.at/GNOME22/) BTW.  Now here's the problem(s).

A.  The first time you run startx, it runs fine.  Once you close the session, the next time you run startx, the keyboard/mouse are locked up.  This happens no matter what user is logged in, and continues until a reboot, then you can run it once again.  The X logs show no difference between the two sessions (I saved and DIFF'd them to be sure).   There are no extra running processes that I could see (ps -A).  To close the X session, I had to ssh in from another box and do a 'chvt 1', and ctrl-c the running X - keyboard and mouse worked fine in other consoles.  This could be related to...

B.  gdm is pretty screwed up.  Fonts are too small to read, and the keyboard/mouse are always locked up if this is running.  I don't have it installed at the moment.  xdm did the same thing. 

Any ideas?  I don't think this is an X problem, as if it were, I think it would be consistant and not work the first time.  Just in case though, my XF86Config is below.  When I was using the knoppix install, X/KDE worked just fine, so it must be a gnome thing somewhere...

Thanks

Matt

* XF86Config-4 *
### BEGIN DEBCONF SECTION
# XF86Config-4 (XFree86 server configuration file) generated by dexconf, the
# Debian X Configuration tool, using values from the debconf database.
#
# Edit this file with caution, and see the XF86Config-4 manual page.
# (Type "man XF86Config-4" at the shell prompt.)
#
# If you want your changes to this file preserved by dexconf, only make changes
# before the "### BEGIN DEBCONF SECTION" line above, and/or after the
# "### END DEBCONF SECTION" line below.
#
# To change things within the debconf section, run the command:
#   dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86
# as root.  Also see "How do I add custom sections to a dexconf-generated
# XF86Config or XF86Config-4 file?" in /usr/share/doc/xfree86-common/FAQ.gz.
Section "Files"
FontPath"unix/:7100"  # local font server
# if the local font server has problems, we can fall back on these
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/CID"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi"
EndSection
Section "Module"
Load"GLcore"
Load"bitmap"
Load"dbe"
Load"ddc"
Load"dri"
Load"extmod"
Load"freetype"
Load"glx"
#   Load"int10"
Load"record"
Load"speedo"
Load"type1"
#   Load"vbe"
EndSection
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Generic Keyboard"
Driver  "keyboard"
Option  "CoreKeyboard"
Option  "XkbRules""xfree86"
Option  "XkbModel""pc101"
Option  "XkbLayout"   "us"
EndSection
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Configured Mouse"
Driver  "mouse"
Option  "CorePointer"
Option  "Device"  "/dev/psaux"
Option  "Protocol""ImPS/2"
Option  "Emulate3Buttons" "true"
Option  "ZAxisMapping""4 5"
Option  "Emulate3Timeout" "70"
Option  "SendCoreEvents"  "true"
EndSection
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Generic Mouse"
Driver  "mouse"
Option  "SendCoreEvents"  "true"
Option  "Device"  "/dev/input/mice"
Option  "Protocol""ImPS/2"
Option  "Emulate3Buttons" "true"
Option  "ZAxisMapping""4 5"
EndSection
Section "Device"
Identifier  "ATI Radeon M"
Driver  "vesa"
EndSection
Section "Monitor"
Identifier  "ViewSonic"
HorizSync   30-94
VertRefresh 50-75
Option  "DPMS"
EndSection
Section "Screen"
Identifier  "Default Screen

Question on make-kpkg

2003-09-17 Thread Neal Lippman
I've been using make-kpkg to build my new kernel,playing around with
2.6.0-test2. (aside: Thanks to all who responded to my earlier request
for help.I've got a bootable 2.6.0-test built, but now I need to play
with the config a bit and figure out what's causing some of the errors
during boot; at least it hasn't crashed in about 24 hrs so far, though).

Anyway, as I play with the config parameters, I'd like to be able to
create kernel packages with different names to help keep track of what's
what. This is helpful by labelling packages with the build date, and
also with some info, esp as I will eventually build a package for a
different architecture as well (I'm going to swap my MSI
motherboard/Athlon process for a new ASUS MB and P4, and I'd like to
prebuild the kernel and have it ready to boot).

Anyway, I started out by using:
fakeroot make-kpkg append-to-version=.20030915 kernel_image
because I first did the build on 9/15. Now, if I try to issue
fakeroot make-kpkg append-to-version=.20030917 kernel_image, I get an
error message telling me that the changelog wants to build
vmlinuz-2.6.0-test2.20030915 "but I thought I was building
vmlinuz-2.6.0-test2.20030917"

I was expecting that I could keep using make-kpkg in a given linux
source tree and change the append-to-version on each build, but
obviously I don't understand something important about make-kpkg. The
man page isn't really helping me out here.

Can anyone shed some light?

THanks.

nl


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Mailhost...

2003-09-17 Thread Greg Folkert
On Wed, 2003-09-17 at 18:30, Osamu Aoki wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 17, 2003 at 02:30:01AM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> > On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 01:04:51 +0100, 
> > "Karsten M. Self" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>^^
> Hmmm.. Karsten may have finally got DSL/cable ? :)

Nope he's still on Dial-up... 

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Re: Sound capture via fake driver

2003-09-17 Thread Carl Fink
On Wed, Sep 17, 2003 at 12:29:26PM +0200, Robert Vollmert wrote:

> Another solution is using vsound (debian package available) with

Already suggested on this list.  Unfortunately it randomly segfaults,
usually 45 minutes or so into a one hour recording.

> realplayer (or better, trplayer:

Cool program.  Thanks.
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Re: scsi tape drive - debian package

2003-09-17 Thread Rob VanFleet
On Thu, Sep 18, 2003 at 10:43:40AM +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I recently attached a SCSI tape drive to my raid box running Debian.
> It's a  SONY Model: SDX-300C
> 
> I was hoping someone could point me in the right direction on how to get it 
> working, backing up.
> I had a look at Amanda, that looked very complicated for me !

Amanda is probably overkill for your situation.
 
> Is there a simpler software package ?

Heh, well "simple" doesn't necessarily mean easy to use.  In that vein,
take a look at mt for controlling the drive, tar, dump (for ext2/3
only), or cpio for performing the actual backups.

> Any good HOW-TO's lying about ?  

Section 12 of the Linux System Administrators Guide has some examples of
using tar for tape backups.

http://www.tldp.org/LDP/sag/backups.html

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Re: ssh + X11

2003-09-17 Thread David Z Maze
Rodrigo Valenzuela <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> When i connect via ssh to my computers it goes fine, but when i
> tried 'startx ' it complains with 'X: user noy authorized to tun the
> x server'.

...and you don't actually want to succeed at this, since if you do
there will be an X server running attached to the monitor, keyboard,
and mouse on the machine that you're ssh'd into, not the one you're
sitting in front of.

> ps: is this the best option in order to access my desktop remotely, and
> do all the stuff I'm used to?

What do you actually want to do?  X-over-ssh is great for running
individual applications remotely (like the Emacs I'm writing this in),
doable with enough network but not actually great for running desktop
environments like GNOME remotely.

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Re: Not booting

2003-09-17 Thread Jerome R. Acks
On Sun, Sep 14, 2003 at 07:20:35PM -0300, Raul Montagne wrote:
> The boot process of my linux-debian-knoppix machine stops
> almost at the end

> Questions:
> 1.-How can I check what what other libraries are broken?

You can use debsums to verify installed Debian package files against
MD5 checksum lists. 

"dpkg -l lib*" will give you information on installed state of
libraries according dpkg's status file. 

> 2.- Is there any other way to see what is going wrong with the boot 
> procces (besides the demesg)?

You should be able to scroll through boot post messages with
[shift][page up] and [shift][page down]. 
 
> 3.- any clue how to fix whatever it may be ;-)

Not knowing what is wrong: 
http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-package.en.html#s-survival

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Equation system resolver

2003-09-17 Thread Nicolas
Is there a equation system resolver in debian or linux in general?
Basicly, I need to resolv equation systems or simplify very long and 
complicated equations.

Nic Cola
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Re: ssh + X11

2003-09-17 Thread Oki DZ
On Wed, Sep 17, 2003 at 08:48:10PM -0400, Rodrigo Valenzuela wrote:
> What is missing? Any comments? Pointers?

It's about "X forwarding"; please google around.
 
> ps: is this the best option in order to access my desktop remotely, and
> do all the stuff I'm used to?

You can try VNC (tightvncserver*deb); one of the benefits of having it 
is that when you get disconnected from the network, you can reconnect 
and get what you have left on your desktop. But, your connection is not 
quite yet secure (ie: clear text).

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scsi tape drive - debian package

2003-09-17 Thread ross74

Hi all,

I recently attached a SCSI tape drive to my raid box running Debian.
It's a  SONY Model: SDX-300C

I was hoping someone could point me in the right direction on how to get it 
working, backing up.
I had a look at Amanda, that looked very complicated for me !

Is there a simpler software package ?
Any good HOW-TO's lying about ?
I only want to backup files on this box, not across the network, they're all local 
files.

I'm pretty sure I'm halfway there as Debian can see the tape drive (see below)

==
cat /proc/scsi/scsi
Attached devices:
Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 06 Lun: 00
  Vendor: DELL Model: 1x4 U2W SCSI BP  Rev: 5.35
  Type:   ProcessorANSI SCSI revision: 02
Host: scsi0 Channel: 02 Id: 00 Lun: 00
  Vendor: MegaRAID Model: LD0 RAID5 69356R Rev: 1.01
  Type:   Direct-AccessANSI SCSI revision: 02
Host: scsi1 Channel: 00 Id: 09 Lun: 00
  Vendor: SONY Model: SDX-300C Rev: 0400
  Type:   Sequential-AccessANSI SCSI revision: 02
Host: scsi2 Channel: 00 Id: 05 Lun: 00
  Vendor: NEC  Model: CD-ROM DRIVE:466 Rev: 1.06
  Type:   CD-ROM   ANSI SCSI revision: 02
==

Any help would be greatly appreciated !

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ssh + X11

2003-09-17 Thread Rodrigo Valenzuela
hi everyone:
When i connect via ssh to my computers it goes fine, but when i tried
'startx ' it complains with
'X: user noy authorized to tun the x server'.  Obviously the user can
startx with no complain when sitting in front of the computer, so it is
authorized. 
What is missing? Any comments? Pointers?

ps: is this the best option in order to access my desktop remotely, and
do all the stuff I'm used to?
thanks in advance


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RE: failed upgrade to unstable... libxrender1

2003-09-17 Thread James Strandboge
On Wed, 2003-09-17 at 18:46, Michael Kahle wrote:
> James Strandboge wrote:
> >On Wed, 2003-09-17 at 16:28, Michael Kahle wrote:
> >>>Did you have the gnome2.2 woody backport installed?
> >> 
> >> Yes I did.  I was runny woody.  I then installed the backport at a 
> >> later date.  I the decided to switch to testing.
> >> 
> >Glad dselect helped.  It is not recommended to go from the backport 
> >to testing, but instead the backport to sid.  The reason being is 
> >that much of the backport is much farther ahead of testing.
> >
> >I did correct a dependency issue with libxrender1.1 (which is from 
> >the backport) and libxrender1.  You won't be able to install 
> >libxrender1 now without removing libxrender1.1.  This should help 
> >people attempting what you did.
> 
> I apologize.  I went from stable to unstable (sid).  I hope that my 
> slip did not prompt the propagation of a change that was unnecessary 
> or worse wrong!

Not at all.  You having the problem clearly showed it needed to be
done.  When I initially packaged libxrender1.1, there was no such
libxrender1 in sid.  I needed to account for it.

Jamie

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Re: grub/lilo question

2003-09-17 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 16:20:05 -0700, 
Carla Schroder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> On Wednesday 17 September 2003 1:46 pm, Victory wrote:
> > Some one please let me know the advantage/disadvantage
> > about grub/lilo ext2/ext3.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Victor.
> 
> 1. GRUB contains its own little command shell, for passing in or
> editing commands at boot time. It can read from a configuration file.
> It supports many filesystems, currently BSD FFS, DOS FAT16 and FAT32,
> Minix fs, Linux ext2fs, ReiserFS, and VSTa fs; and blocklists for
> files that do not appear in filesystems, such as chainloaders.
> 
> GRUB reads filesystems and kernel executables, rather than inflexibly 
> restricting the user to disk geometry.  Install and remove operating
> systems as needed. Boot bare kernels, passing in modules and
> parameters from the command line. GRUB will even download OS images
> over the network.
> 
> GRUB does not need a /boot partition, just let it own the MBR. 

..is Grub far from being able to boot off a cd now?

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Re: [OT] ML rejections

2003-09-17 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Thu, Sep 18, 2003 at 06:10:20AM +0800, csj ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Two of my last two posts appears not to have made it to the list.
> Is there a log somewhere I could consult if my posts were, let's
> say, spam-assassinated by the list server?

Note the difference (and I'm posting this for the information of others
more than yourself, as I suspect you know this already) between "my post
resulted in a bounce message", which unfortunatly happens with
distressing regularity from moronic users and/or mail admins, and "my
mail didn't make it to the list", which would be a legitimate concern.

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Filesystem I/O performance (was Re: Which FS to use ?)

2003-09-17 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Wed, Sep 17, 2003 at 10:52:15PM +0200, mess-mate ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 15:19:00 +0100
> Tom Badran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> | On Wednesday 17 Sep 2003 14:47, Shyamal Prasad wrote:
> | > What kind of application is it that is "way too slow" with ext2? I use
> | > ext3 with an 80G drive and it is never slow. ext2 should've been
> | > faster. I can recommend ext3 as a good choice, it works great for me.
> | >
> | > Perhaps you don't have DMA turned on?
> | 
> | If you have an application that needs to pull lots of data really fast (using 
> | directio) for long periods of time, you really should be using XFS. We tested 
> | a load of filesystems where i am working and only xfs got the throuput we 
> | needed (~430MB/s off a raid array) whereas the best ext3 and reiser (might 
> | not have been reiser4 though) could get was about 350MB/s
> | 
> | Tom
> | 
> Uuuhh,
> /dev/hda:
>  Timing buffer-cache reads:   128 MB in  0.17 seconds =752.94 MB/sec
>  Timing buffered disk reads:  64 MB in  1.47 seconds = 43.54 MB/sec
> mess-mate

RAID is going to speed this considerably.

For a comparison point -- SGI was involved in NSort, a project /
high-end data sorting system which attained a throughput capable of
sorting 1 terrabyte of data in 2.5 hours, in 1997:

http://www.ordinal.com/white/whitepaper.html

It attained this performance through several means:

  - 32 processors.
  - 8 GiB main memory.
  - 559 4 GiB disks, arrayed as 1 system disk, a single 280 disk XLV
volume, and 278 temporary disks.
  - A large number of independent controller channels (I remember this
from prior research of the topic, can't find a cite now).

The values attained are modest by today's standards, but the principles
are sound:  spread your head movements over as many spindles as
possible, keep your channels clean, and use gobs of memory.  You'll get
good performance.

Single-spindle ATA disk access is glacial by comparison.

Peace.

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Re: ..chroot-installs onto RAID-1 disks ,was: Evolving Debian from Red Hat

2003-09-17 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 00:30:20 +0200, 
Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> On Wed, Sep 17, 2003 at 02:30:01AM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> > On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 01:04:51 +0100, 
> > "Karsten M. Self" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>^^
> Hmmm.. Karsten may have finally got DSL/cable ? :)
> 
> > > So while I'd recommend a standard installation as first approach,
> > > a chroot install is a very handy trick to have up one's sleeve.
> > 
> > ..ah, well.  It looks like I need to learn how to roll my own 
> > debootstrap, pointers?   I'm plan to drop ipchains for mdadm 
> > and other Raid tools.
> 
> The definitive guide is:
>  http://people.debian.org/~blade/install/
> 
> I wrote something too:
>  http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-tips.en.html#s-chroot

..thanks, this helps me _use_ chroot and debootstrap, but 
where do I find info on _customizing_ my own debootstrap?

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Re: XFree86 Config

2003-09-17 Thread Chris McQueeny
The command "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" should get you to the utility you need.
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Re: [OT] ML rejections

2003-09-17 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Sep 18, 2003 at 06:10:20AM +0800, csj wrote:
> Two of my last two posts appears not to have made it to the list. Is
> there a log somewhere I could consult if my posts were, let's say,
> spam-assassinated by the list server?

The listmasters have such logs. I should imagine they're private for
general sanity reasons, but you could ask them.

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Locking pine to a folder

2003-09-17 Thread Rus Foster
Hi All,
Does anyone know a way in which it would be possible to lock pine to a
certain folder. This isn't for security but more convience. Basically I
want to do pine -f foldername and keep it open on that...

Cheers

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Re: grub/lilo question

2003-09-17 Thread Carla Schroder
On Wednesday 17 September 2003 1:46 pm, Victory wrote:
> Some one please let me know the advantage/disadvantage
> about grub/lilo ext2/ext3.
>
> Regards,
> Victor.

1. GRUB contains its own little command shell, for passing in or editing 
commands at boot time. It can read from a configuration file. It supports 
many filesystems, currently BSD FFS, DOS FAT16 and FAT32, Minix fs, Linux 
ext2fs, ReiserFS, and VSTa fs; and blocklists for files that do not appear in 
filesystems, such as chainloaders.

GRUB reads filesystems and kernel executables, rather than inflexibly 
restricting the user to disk geometry.  Install and remove operating systems 
as needed. Boot bare kernels, passing in modules and parameters from the 
command line. GRUB will even download OS images over the network.

GRUB does not need a /boot partition, just let it own the MBR. 

2. ext3 is the journaled version of ext2. It's really just an extension to 
ext2. You can convert back and forth, I don't know why you would want to, but 
you can. With other journaling filesystems, such as ReiserFS or JFS, there is 
no compatibility with other filesystems, so once you choose it, it's not easy 
to make a change. There is no reason I can think of to not use a journaling 
filesystem, any of the major Linux ones are good.

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RE: failed upgrade to unstable... libxrender1

2003-09-17 Thread Michael Kahle
James Strandboge wrote:
>On Wed, 2003-09-17 at 16:28, Michael Kahle wrote:
>>>Did you have the gnome2.2 woody backport installed?
>> 
>> Yes I did.  I was runny woody.  I then installed the backport at a 
>> later date.  I the decided to switch to testing.
>> 
>Glad dselect helped.  It is not recommended to go from the backport 
>to testing, but instead the backport to sid.  The reason being is 
>that much of the backport is much farther ahead of testing.
>
>I did correct a dependency issue with libxrender1.1 (which is from 
>the backport) and libxrender1.  You won't be able to install 
>libxrender1 now without removing libxrender1.1.  This should help 
>people attempting what you did.

I apologize.  I went from stable to unstable (sid).  I hope that my 
slip did not prompt the propagation of a change that was unnecessary 
or worse wrong!

Michael


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Re: grub/lilo question

2003-09-17 Thread Chris McQueeny
If you mean how well they (e.g., grub and ext2) work together, any 
combination of these should work harmoniously. If you have a seperate 
/boot partition though, it will need to be ~64 mb to use Ext/3. (This 
extra space is taken up by the journal file.)

If, on the other hand, you mean how are they individually, then I would 
first say that the choice between grub & lilo is mostly arbitrary. On a 
modern computer, either should work well; lilo has easier configuration 
syntax, but grub is much more advanced. As far as the filesystems are 
concerned, nowadays it is very clear-cut. As Ext/3 has matured a great 
deal since it was released, my opinion is that it is entirely superior 
to Ext/2 at least. The journalling capabilities greatly increase speed 
and reliability in many cases. I personally use SGI's XFS, but Ext/3 is 
a good choice.

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Re: sound in koules only

2003-09-17 Thread csj
At Wed, 17 Sep 2003 18:07:40 -0400,
Antonio Rodr wrote:
> 
> I have a sid installation in another machine, with an audigy
> card. I installed the emu* driver, alsa, etc. For a few days I
> couldn't figure out what was going on that I could not hear any
> sounds. I was surprised today when koules started with sound.
> xmms, cdplay are two of the applications that I haven't been
> able to make any sounds with.  Any ideas what the problem can
> be?  Thanks.

koules probably uses KDE's sound server, which might be properly
configured to interact with the ALSA sound system.  cdplay is
probably just "playing" your cdrom drive (making the drive spin)
and not passing the digital output to the soundcard.  xmms is
probably using the OSS driver, and you need to enable the OSS
emulation for ALSA.  Or install xmms's ALSA driver.


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Re: OT: email style flames, was: Can't mount cdrom

2003-09-17 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 14:23:14 -0700, 
Vineet Kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> * Arnt Karlsen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030917 06:09]:
> > ..what???  Where?  When?  Or, who?  ;-)
> > > > Since we're all picking on each other's email styles; Arnt,
> > > > what's up with all the ellipses? (Been wanting to ask that for a
> > > > while:-) )
> 
> d'oh! my bad.  Entering a mailing list style thread with a missing
> attribution.  Everybody hurl feces at me!
> 
> Also, I hope my previous email didn't seem like I was picking on your
> style; I just wanted to clarify what ellipses are.
> 
> Now I will pick on you a little bit, though ;-)

..excellent, that brings you _on_ topic in this wee somewhat 
off-topic thread.  ;-)
 
> How about shortening your attribution from 3 lines to 1?  I
> accidentally chopped it out before since I didn't immediately
> recognize it, since it

..booo.  ;-)

> was 3 lines separated from the other attributions by a blank.

..I use these 3 lines to attribute "when who wrote what", to help 
my readership keep track of context, and then leave a single line 
of whitespace to help enhance readability, all in keeping with in 
our proud old Norse tradition of civilized conversation.  ;-)

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Re: Bind patch for TLD Wildcarding

2003-09-17 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Wed, Sep 17, 2003 at 06:28:01AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> http://www.isc.org/products/BIND/delegation-only.html
> 
> Would something like this be considered a "Security Fix" and get into 
> Bind9 for Stable?
> 
> BTW -- is there a way in apt-cache or on the Debian site to see when a 
> package was uploaded?  I also wish I could look at the Changelog(s) in 
> the package from either apt-cache or the Debian packages web interface.

* What is the URL these days to just get a changelog?
   http://people.debian.org/~noel/changelogs/


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Re: valgrind-snapshot packaged (not officially)

2003-09-17 Thread Adam Heath
On Wed, 17 Sep 2003, Andrés Roldán wrote:

> Adam Heath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > On Wed, 17 Sep 2003, Andrés Roldán wrote:
> >
> >> PS: valgrind-snapshot conflicts with valgrind for obvious reasons.
> >
> > Er, why?  I see no reason for it to.  Just rename the binaries in the package.
>
> Both packages have the same shared object files (skins) located at
> /usr/lib/valgrind but may not be compatible each other.

So change that directory name.


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Re: ..chroot-installs onto RAID-1 disks ,was: Evolving Debian from Red Hat

2003-09-17 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Wed, Sep 17, 2003 at 02:30:01AM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 01:04:51 +0100, 
> "Karsten M. Self" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
   ^^
Hmmm.. Karsten may have finally got DSL/cable ? :)

> > So while I'd recommend a standard installation as first approach, a
> > chroot install is a very handy trick to have up one's sleeve.
> 
> ..ah, well.  It looks like I need to learn how to roll my own 
> debootstrap, pointers?   I'm plan to drop ipchains for mdadm 
> and other Raid tools.

The definitive guide is:
 http://people.debian.org/~blade/install/

I wrote something too:
 http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-tips.en.html#s-chroot


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Re: print HTML in "B" size

2003-09-17 Thread Vineet Kumar
* Derrick 'dman' Hudson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030917 12:31]:
> I want to print a certain web page[1], which includes color and
> images, on "B" size paper (aka "Ledger", 11"x17").  My printer can
> handle 11x17 just fine, but I don't know how to convert the HTML to PS
> for the printer.  Neither galeon nor mozilla allow choosing that paper
> size, nor do they let me choose an arbitrary size.
> 
> What tool(s) will fit the bill here?

What print command are you using in mozilla?  How about specifying an
argument to that?  Not sure if it would work, since mozilla also has a
paper size option, which may or may not override your intentions.

I also just pulled up about:config and found a few options which may be
of interest:

print.print.printer_PostScript/default.print_paper_width
print.print.printer_PostScript/default.print_paper_height
print.print.printer_PostScript/default.print_paper_name

scrolling down a bit further, I found the default paper sizes under
print.tmp.printerfeatures.Postscript/default.paper .  So you
could add an entry for tabloid by adding a new name, width, height, etc.
and incrementing the "count" option.

good times,
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Re: sid: kinit showing passwd!

2003-09-17 Thread Henning Moll
On Wednesday 17 September 2003 21:25, Anders Lennartsson wrote:
> Now should I consider the whole machine tainted, or is this only a
> bug?
Whenever you use inofficial packages in your system you should/could 
consider your system as beeing tainted. It's a question of trust.

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RE: failed upgrade to unstable... libxrender1

2003-09-17 Thread James Strandboge
On Wed, 2003-09-17 at 16:28, Michael Kahle wrote:
> >
> >Did you have the gnome2.2 woody backport installed?
> 
> Yes I did.  I was runny woody.  I then installed the backport at a later
> date.  I the decided to switch to testing.
> 

Glad dselect helped.  It is not recommended to go from the backport to
testing, but instead the backport to sid.  The reason being is that much
of the backport is much farther ahead of testing.

I did correct a dependency issue with libxrender1.1 (which is from the
backport) and libxrender1.  You won't be able to install libxrender1 now
without removing libxrender1.1.  This should help people attempting what
you did.

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sound in koules only

2003-09-17 Thread Antonio Rodr
I have a sid installation in another machine, with an audigy card. I installed the 
emu* driver, alsa, etc. For a few days I couldn't figure out what was going on that I 
could not hear any sounds. I was surprised today when koules started with sound.
xmms, cdplay are two of the applications that I haven't been able to make any sounds 
with.
Any ideas what the problem can be?
Thanks.


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[OT] ML rejections

2003-09-17 Thread csj
Two of my last two posts appears not to have made it to the list.
Is there a log somewhere I could consult if my posts were, let's
say, spam-assassinated by the list server?


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Re: Permission denied

2003-09-17 Thread Karol Czachorowski
On 17 Sep 2003 11:03:14 -0400
"David H. Clymer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I cannot uninstall/reinstall, do anything with the kdebase-doc package
> because of a problem with several files, which even as root, i do not 
> have permission to list/delete/modify. How is this so? Is there any way
> I can unlink these files?

What's your filesystem? If ext[23] then try `lsattr `. If files
have attribute +i set, then turn it off by: `chattr -i .


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Re: XFree86 Config

2003-09-17 Thread Erik Steffl
Rob VanFleet wrote:
On Wed, Sep 17, 2003 at 04:44:39PM -0400, Rishikesh wrote:

	I bought a new monitor and I want to reconfigure X.
	How can I get the debconf menus to configure X I got
	when I was installing debian. 


dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 
should do it.
  depends on whether the XFree config is managed manually or not (it 
asks during install/upgrade)

  if it's managed manually: look for monitor section, update the 
frequencies (most probably no modelines required), it's very simple. the 
config filename is /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 or, if it does not exist, 
/etc/X11/XF86Config

	erik



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'Sleep' fn. in unstable APM ?

2003-09-17 Thread Adam Bogacki
Hi, I'd like to be able to walk away from the machine for an hour
or so without logging or powering off. Is there a 'hibernation'
state I can use in unstable ? M$ has it via button on many of its
keyboards.
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Re: print HTML in "B" size

2003-09-17 Thread Donald Spoon
Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote:
I want to print a certain web page[1], which includes color and
images, on "B" size paper (aka "Ledger", 11"x17").  My printer can
handle 11x17 just fine, but I don't know how to convert the HTML to PS
for the printer.  Neither galeon nor mozilla allow choosing that paper
size, nor do they let me choose an arbitrary size.
What tool(s) will fit the bill here?

TIA!
-D
Hmm... my Mozilla (1.4-4) offers a "ledger" option under the "Print" --> 
"Properties" menu next to the selected printer. I don't have any legal 
paper here to test it out, though.  It does print color from web pages 
quite nicely on "letter" sized paper from my HP Deskjet 960C.  My 
current software setup here is:

1. Mozilla 1.4-4
2. xprt-xprintgorg 0.0.8.cvs2003050
3. CUPS version 1.1.19 final
Dunno which of the above is needed or is the "key", but I suspect it is 
the first two at least.  I started getting some different printer 
listings in the Mozilla print menu AFTER I got the xprt packages 
installed and working.  They seem to pick up my "defined" printers in 
CUPS and add a "...@:64" to their names.  Under the "Properties" menu I 
have a LOT of options on print sizes!!  Much more than under CUPS alone. 
  Dunno how it would work with other print systems.

Cheers & Good Luck!
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Re: OT: email style flames, was: Can't mount cdrom

2003-09-17 Thread Vineet Kumar
* Arnt Karlsen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030917 06:09]:
> ..what???  Where?  When?  Or, who?  ;-)
> > > Since we're all picking on each other's email styles; Arnt, what's
> > > up with all the ellipses? (Been wanting to ask that for a while
> > > :-) )

d'oh! my bad.  Entering a mailing list style thread with a missing
attribution.  Everybody hurl feces at me!

Also, I hope my previous email didn't seem like I was picking on your
style; I just wanted to clarify what ellipses are.

Now I will pick on you a little bit, though ;-)

How about shortening your attribution from 3 lines to 1?  I accidentally
chopped it out before since I didn't immediately recognize it, since it
was 3 lines separated from the other attributions by a blank.

good times,
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Weird network behaviour - can anyone explain it?

2003-09-17 Thread Oliver Elphick
We have a machine whose network configuration is in some way wrong, but
I don't know how.

When it boots, the network is configured correctly, according to
ifconfig, but it takes forever for things (a deliberately vague word) to
be processed.  Then it seems to handle a number of requests all at once
and goes back to sleep for a while.  The effect is illustrated by this
ping across the local ethernet (other machines on the same net have no
problems):

#  ping braydb
PING braydb.somedomain.com (192.168.1.18): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 192.168.1.18: icmp_seq=33 ttl=64 time=0.6 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.18: icmp_seq=34 ttl=64 time=0.8 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.18: icmp_seq=35 ttl=64 time=1.4 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.18: icmp_seq=18 ttl=64 time=17002.5 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.18: icmp_seq=19 ttl=64 time=16003.6 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.18: icmp_seq=20 ttl=64 time=15004.2 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.18: icmp_seq=21 ttl=64 time=14004.8 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.18: icmp_seq=22 ttl=64 time=13005.4 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.18: icmp_seq=23 ttl=64 time=12005.9 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.18: icmp_seq=24 ttl=64 time=11006.5 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.18: icmp_seq=25 ttl=64 time=10007.0 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.18: icmp_seq=26 ttl=64 time=9007.6 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.18: icmp_seq=27 ttl=64 time=8008.1 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.18: icmp_seq=28 ttl=64 time=7008.6 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.18: icmp_seq=29 ttl=64 time=6009.1 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.18: icmp_seq=30 ttl=64 time=5009.7 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.18: icmp_seq=31 ttl=64 time=4010.3 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.18: icmp_seq=32 ttl=64 time=3010.9 ms 

--- braydb.somedomain.com ping statistics ---
49 packets transmitted, 18 packets received, 63% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max = 0.6/8339.2/17002.5 ms

After some considerable time, this effect stops and normal response
times resume.  (I hope that this will also be the case on this occasion;
the machine has been running for 5 hours so far.)

Kernel is 2.4.20 SMP, built for this machine.
I can't identify the network card until the machine starts to respond
correctly (I am not on site).

The problem began a couple of months back; I do not know of any relevant
software change.  Since then, the machine has not been rebooted again
until today.

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Re: grub/lilo question

2003-09-17 Thread Clive Menzies
On (17/09/03 16:46), Victory wrote:
> Some one please let me know the advantage/disadvantage
> about grub/lilo ext2/ext3.
> 

As I understand it lilo is the official debian bootloader but is not as
flexible as grub for booting many different kernels.  I've used both and
lilo is automatically set up during the install.  Grub requires a bit of
configuring but once working it is straight forward and smooth ;)

http://linuxtoday.com/infrastructure/2002102200426NWDBSW describes the
grub set up well

ext2 v ext3 is a bit beyond my knowledge ;)

HTH

Clive


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DNS BIND 9.2.1 enabling dynamic updates

2003-09-17 Thread Sam Warren
I think I found what my problem was. Somehow I think DNS installed without
getting two required libraries. I decided to try updating to 9.2.2 and it
upgraded 1 package and installed 2 new packages. I think these new ones
should have already been there. Anyway, after the upgrade to 9.2.2 and
regenerating the name.conf file, the problem is no longer occurring. Thanks!
 
   


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Re: valgrind-snapshot packaged (not officially)

2003-09-17 Thread Adam Heath
On Wed, 17 Sep 2003, Andrés Roldán wrote:

> PS: valgrind-snapshot conflicts with valgrind for obvious reasons.

Er, why?  I see no reason for it to.  Just rename the binaries in the package.


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Re: valgrind-snapshot packaged (not officially)

2003-09-17 Thread Adam Heath
On Wed, 17 Sep 2003, Andrés Roldán wrote:

> I'm glad to announce that valgrind-snapshot has been packaged.
> I've made a script that makes the package daily.
>
> It is currently not on the official Debian archives so, please,
> do NOT report bugs to valgrind if you found a bug in valgrind-snapshot.
> Instead, send me an email with the description of the problem.
>
> The source is as follows:
>
> deb http://people.fluidsignal.com/~aroldan/debian unstable main

Upload this to experimental.  That's what's for.


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Re: XFree86 Config

2003-09-17 Thread Clive Menzies
On (17/09/03 16:44), Rishikesh wrote:
>   I bought a new monitor and I want to reconfigure X.
>   How can I get the debconf menus to configure X I got
>   when I was installing debian. 
> 
 
dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 should do it

HTH

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Installing Debian with no CD drive and only USB dsl modem.

2003-09-17 Thread Ed



Hi,
 
Im trrying hard to install Debian. I have no CDROM 
drive. And my connection
to the internet is through a USB dsl modem, which 
makes the net install extremely difficult, 
if not impossible.
 
I have tried a hard disk install by mounting the 
ISO image, but the
debian installer refuses to install from it. So now 
i am looking for ways to
do a Net install with the USB dsl modem. 

 
I have got the base system installed already, 
with the floppy disks.
I used the special kernel image that has support 
for USB devices. However, it doesn't seem to 

support VIA USB controllers, So ofcourse the modem will not work.
I know the USB modem can work under linux, because 
I have used it under Slackware.
 
I have a kernel image that I got from the peanut 
linux install files. They use this kernel in a very
similair way to how debian does, with a 'ram.bat' 
file and the initrd line.
I know the peanut kernel supports my USB 
setup, so i tried to replace linux.bin with that.
 
However, I get "invalid compressed format 
error". Back to square one.
 
Any help in getting out of this mess and installing 
Debian would be appreciated, thanks.
 
p.s: No, I don't know anyone who can lend me a CD 
drive.
 
 


Re: Javascript-enabled text-mode browser

2003-09-17 Thread Brian Potkin
On Wed, Sep 17, 2003 at 11:03:12PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I've ditched X-based browsers for most of my surfing needs.
> The only time I find them really useful is when I need
> to google for pictures *and* when I must navigate Javascript-
> enabled (or should I say disabled) sites.
> 
> The only text-mode browser I could find that can handle or
> at least claim to handle Javascript is netrik.  But it
> doesn't do a particularly good job in rendering HTML ATM.
> 
> So does anybody know of any other text-mode browsers out
> there in the wild that can handle Javascript?  Having
> seen the power of w3m's text-mode tabbed browsing, I
> would like to do all of my browsing from the console.
> (A text-mode front-end to the Mozilla-rendering engine
> would be real neat.)

You may be interested in the contents of

http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2003/debian-user-200308/msg01875.html

The JavaScript version of links it refers to worked to some extent for
me but it didn't handle well parts of some sites I visit.  Not knowing
much about JavaScript left me undecided as to whether it was the
software or the site.

Brian.


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Re: valgrind-snapshot packaged (not officially)

2003-09-17 Thread Andrés Roldán
Adam Heath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Wed, 17 Sep 2003, Andrés Roldán wrote:
>
>> PS: valgrind-snapshot conflicts with valgrind for obvious reasons.
>
> Er, why?  I see no reason for it to.  Just rename the binaries in the package.

Both packages have the same shared object files (skins) located at 
/usr/lib/valgrind but may not be compatible each other.

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Re: sid: kinit showing passwd!

2003-09-17 Thread David Z Maze
Anders Lennartsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> David Maze wrote:
>
>> kinit (from the MIT Kerberos packages, not Heimdal) works as I (and you)
>> expect.  Where does your kinit come from?
>>
>>  which kinit
>>  dpkg -S `which kinit`
>
> This is most disturbing. After a check at my home lan where it worked,
> of course,
> I followed up what kinit I was using at work, where I discovered the
> problem:
>
> ~$ type -all kinit
> kinit is /usr/bin/kinit
> ~$ ls -l /usr/bin/kinit 
> lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   23 Sep 16 14:43 /usr/bin/kinit
> -> /etc/alternatives/kinit
> ~$ ls -l /etc/alternatives/kinit 
> lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   27 Sep 16 14:44
> /etc/alternatives/kinit -> /usr/lib/j2se/1.4/bin/kinit

That's exciting.  Digging around, I also have a kinit (and klist, but
not kdestroy) alternative, but /usr/bin/kinit from krb5-user.  Using
Blackdown j2se1.4 mirrored from metalab.unc.edu.  I don't actually
know how dpkg reacts if one package thinks something is an alternative
and another doesn't; my suspicion is that, since I installed Kerberos
before Java, the real Kerberos won, but I don't actually know.

> The problem seems to be caused by the thing I did yesterday.
> For the first time ever, I installed an unofficial deb, the j2sdk1.4
> compiled with gcc-3.2, downloaded from jrfonseca.dyndns.org/debian.

...but maybe not.

> Interesting thing though, the java stuff worked with mozilla as I
> expected.

I haven't had much luck with it, but I'm also not actually sure what
gcc my JVM was compiled against.

> Now should I consider the whole machine tainted, or is this only a
> bug?

I'd guess that it's just a bug, and if it were me, I'd just reinstall
krb5-user and check that things you expect to be from that package
aren't really alternatives.

> With the "fake" kinit, when I write an incorrect password or none at
> all, the output looks like the following:
> (obviously incorrect password is here sdklakjfd)
>
> ~$ kinit
> Password for [EMAIL PROTECTED]:sdklakjfd
> Exception: krb_error 24 Pre-authentication information was invalid (24)
> - PREAUTH_FAILED Pre-authentication information was invalid

Right, that makes sense.  In the ancient days, you asked the KDC for a
TGT, and it handed you back a TGT encrypted in your password; kinit
then took the password you typed in, tried to decrypt it, and if you
succeeded, you were done.  But this enabled an attack where you asked
for a TGT, got back something encrypted, knew more-or-less what the
result should look like, and could do an offline dictionary attack.
So now there's an encrypted exchange where you give your password to
the KDC, it checks that the password is correct, and *then* gives you
the encrypted TGT; the "validate password first" step is the
pre-authentication.

> If I typed the correct I did actually get a TGT, at least the "fake"
> klist reported so. Everything was kind of sluggish with these
> programs.

...as are most things in Java, it seems.

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Re: valgrind-snapshot packaged (not officially)

2003-09-17 Thread Andrés Roldán
Adam Heath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Wed, 17 Sep 2003, Andrés Roldán wrote:
>
>> I'm glad to announce that valgrind-snapshot has been packaged.
>> I've made a script that makes the package daily.
>>
>> It is currently not on the official Debian archives so, please,
>> do NOT report bugs to valgrind if you found a bug in valgrind-snapshot.
>> Instead, send me an email with the description of the problem.
>>
>> The source is as follows:
>>
>> deb http://people.fluidsignal.com/~aroldan/debian unstable main
>
> Upload this to experimental.  That's what's for.

I won't use this package as the current "valgrind" package (at least not
for the moment because of the time) that's why I said it was not "official".
I even thought to ITP it but it would be hard and time-expensive to handle
bugs of two valgrind packages.

I will have this package out of the official Debian archives as long as I 
have time for that.

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Re: sed, bash script

2003-09-17 Thread csj
At Wed, 17 Sep 2003 11:40:31 +0100,
Karsten M. Self wrote:
> 
> on Wed, Sep 17, 2003 at 08:08:26AM +0800, csj ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

[...]

> > Is there anything intrinsically wrong with:
> > 
> > find directory -name "*.foo" | xargs sed -i -f sed_script
> 
> Well:
> 
>- It outputs everything to stdout, rather than a named file for each
>  input.

I used to think that way too.  But since I discovered option -i,
sed has replaced ed for most of my recursive search-and-replace
operations:

aldebaran:~> sed --help | grep -A1 in-place
  -i[suffix], --in-place[=suffix]
 edit files in place (makes backup if extension supplied)

>- You need to restrict the number of input files with 'xargs -n 1'

Why?  What happens?  I've never used that option myself.  Is it a
memory-allocation issue?

>- You could run into problems with filenames containing embeded IFS
>  characters.  "-print0 / -0" are useful arguments.

Yes.

> Personally, I'd do it as:
> 
> for f in $( find path -name \*.foo )
> do sed -e 'stuff' < "$f" > "$f.tmp" && mv "$f.tmp" "$f"; done

Which I used to do until I discovered option -i.


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Re: XFree86 Config

2003-09-17 Thread Rob VanFleet
On Wed, Sep 17, 2003 at 04:44:39PM -0400, Rishikesh wrote:
> 
>   I bought a new monitor and I want to reconfigure X.
>   How can I get the debconf menus to configure X I got
>   when I was installing debian. 

dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 
should do it.

Rob


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Re: Gnome 2.x backport

2003-09-17 Thread Rob VanFleet
On Wed, Sep 17, 2003 at 05:36:15PM -0300, Valter G. Nogueira Jr. wrote:
> where can I find  a Gnome 2.x backport?

See here:

http://debianplanet.org/node.php?id=992

Rob


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Re: sed, bash script

2003-09-17 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Wed, Sep 17, 2003 at 04:22:15AM -0700, Ric Otte ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 17, 2003 at 11:40:31AM +0100, Karsten M. Self wrote:
> > on Wed, Sep 17, 2003 at 08:08:26AM +0800, csj ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

> > > Is there anything intrinsically wrong with:
> > > 
> > > find directory -name "*.foo" | xargs sed -i -f sed_script
> > 
> > Well:
> > 
> >- It outputs everything to stdout, rather than a named file for each
> >  input.
> >- You need to restrict the number of input files with 'xargs -n 1'
> >- You could run into problems with filenames containing embeded IFS
> >  characters.  "-print0 / -0" are useful arguments.
> > 
> Hmm, I tried 'find directory -name "*.foo" | xargs sed -i -f sed_script'
> and it worked.  Evidently my version of sed knows about -i (4.0.7-1) and
> the changes showed up in the original filenames, not stdout.  

Damnit, stop that!

1.  I'm learning things.
2.  "-i" was a reason to start picking up Perl over sed.

;-)

Peace.

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Re: XFree86 Config

2003-09-17 Thread Donald Spoon
Rishikesh wrote:
	I bought a new monitor and I want to reconfigure X.
	How can I get the debconf menus to configure X I got
	when I was installing debian. 

	thank you

	Rishi


dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86

or

install gkdebconf package and run it on xserver-xfree86.

Cheers,
-Don Spoon-
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Re: rsyncing via cron

2003-09-17 Thread Rob VanFleet
On Wed, Sep 17, 2003 at 10:30:05AM -0700, Vineet Kumar wrote:
> * Andy Firman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030917 10:18]:
> > I have never used ssh-add but I am doing the same thing you are
> > and I used this very nice how-to that you may find useful:
> > 
> > http://killyridols.net/rsyncssh.shtml
> 
> Careful with that one.  I just took a glance at it, and it recommends
> using an unencrypted private key without a forced command on the remote
> host's authorized_keys.  This isn't _all_ bad, but I'd say it could be
> better, by adding some options in the remote host's authorized_keys to
> prevent this key from being used for anything but rsync, and only from a
> specified host.  I think I wrote up something about this on this list a
> while back; try http://google.com/search?q=vineet+rsync+authorized_keys
> .  If you can't find anything, let me know and I'll write it again.

I would also suggest using keychain (there's a version in stable, but it
might be worth checking out the latest at
http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/keychain.xml).  It will store the
ssh-agent info in a file, and the cron job can source the file before it
begins.  That way you don't need a passwordless private key.

Rob


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Re: sed, bash script

2003-09-17 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Wed, Sep 17, 2003 at 02:44:09PM +0200, Matthias Czapla ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 17, 2003 at 11:40:31AM +0100, Karsten M. Self wrote:

> > Personally, I'd do it as:
> > 
> > for f in $( find path -name \*.foo )
> > do sed -e 'stuff' < "$f" > "$f.tmp" && mv "$f.tmp" "$f"; done
> 
> And what if a file named $f.tmp already exists? Unlikely, but possible.

Generally, I manually check for that first, and am working on a
controlled subdirectory in which I don't encounter that problem.

Ideally, you'd script this more rigorously and use tempfile to create a
unique, secure, temporary file.

Peace.

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Re: Which FS to use ?

2003-09-17 Thread mess-mate
On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 15:19:00 +0100
Tom Badran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

| On Wednesday 17 Sep 2003 14:47, Shyamal Prasad wrote:
| > What kind of application is it that is "way too slow" with ext2? I use
| > ext3 with an 80G drive and it is never slow. ext2 should've been
| > faster. I can recommend ext3 as a good choice, it works great for me.
| >
| > Perhaps you don't have DMA turned on?
| 
| If you have an application that needs to pull lots of data really fast (using 
| directio) for long periods of time, you really should be using XFS. We tested 
| a load of filesystems where i am working and only xfs got the throuput we 
| needed (~430MB/s off a raid array) whereas the best ext3 and reiser (might 
| not have been reiser4 though) could get was about 350MB/s
| 
| Tom
| 
Uuuhh,
/dev/hda:
 Timing buffer-cache reads:   128 MB in  0.17 seconds =752.94 MB/sec
 Timing buffered disk reads:  64 MB in  1.47 seconds = 43.54 MB/sec
mess-mate


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Re: burning a lot of coasters

2003-09-17 Thread Mark Roach
On Wed, 2003-09-17 at 13:43, Vineet Kumar wrote:
> * Mark Roach ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030917 07:28]:
[...] 
> > I guess that would be a good thing to try. I have been trying to avoid
> > making the image beforehand because it increases the amount of time
> > required, and haven't been burning as root because the files are on an
> > nfs mount that squashes root, I guess I'll give both of those ideas a
> > try and see what happens. Thanks for the suggestion.
> 
> Couldn't you use growisofs as non-root and pipe into cdrecord running as
> root?
> 
> This will gain you the realtime scheduling, but won't protect against
> buffer underruns.  cdrecord should tell you some stats about the fifo,
> though, so you should be able to tell whether you need to worry about
> pre-creating the image or not.  Of course, since it's coming through
> NFS, there's always the possibility that it will just stall sometimes,
> Pre-creating the image is probably the best way to protect against that.
> Even if it usually looks okay, the process will be susceptible to
> failure due to transient network issues.

Actually cdrecord is not involved as it does not support dvd+rw.
growisofs launches mkisofs and uses dd somehow to send the data to the
drive. I have just discovered that you can do 'growisofs -Z
/dev/sr0=/dev/fd/0' and pipe the mkisofs output into it though, so the
same idea applies. I think I'll give that a shot as I don't think that
buffer underruns are the source of my problem. 

Thanks,

Mark


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Re: Sound capture via fake driver

2003-09-17 Thread csj
At Tue, 16 Sep 2003 21:23:15 -0400,
Carl Fink wrote:
> 
> On Wed, Sep 17, 2003 at 07:57:57AM +0800, csj wrote:
> 
> > Why not try mplayer?
> 
> Because it doesn't work well with streaming stuff in general and
> never with RealAudio, on my system.
> 
> > If the url's plain http://, wget.
> 
> Will wget work with rtsp streams?

cvs mplayer can, apparently.  Though I've done this with video
streams (with audio) only.


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RE: failed upgrade to unstable... libxrender1

2003-09-17 Thread Michael Kahle
James Strandboge wrote:
>On Wed, 2003-09-17 at 13:20, Michael Kahle wrote:
>> >Michael Kahle wrote:
>> >> I am getting an error when upgrading my distribution to unstable...
>> >> 
>> >> dpkg-divert: 'diversion of /usr/X11R6/lib/libXrender.so.1 to
>> >> /usr/X11R6/lib/libXrender-1.1.so.1 by libxrender1' clashes with 
>> >> 'diversion of /usr/X11R6/lib/libXrender.so.1 to 
>> >> /usr/share/libxrender1.1/diversions/libXrender.so.1 by libxrender1.1'
>> >> dpkg: error processing 
>> >> /var/cache/apt/archives/libxrender1_0.8.2-1_i386.deb
>> >> (--unpack):
>> >>   subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 2
>> >> 
>> >> Any clues as to what I can do to force (or fix) this install of 
>> >> this
>> >> so that I can move on?  apt just exists after this.
>
>Did you have the gnome2.2 woody backport installed?

Yes I did.  I was runny woody.  I then installed the backport at a later
date.  I the decided to switch to testing.

Michael


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grub/lilo question

2003-09-17 Thread Victory
Some one please let me know the advantage/disadvantage
about grub/lilo ext2/ext3.

Regards,
Victor.


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Re: sed, bash script

2003-09-17 Thread csj
At Wed, 17 Sep 2003 11:50:15 -0800,
Ken Irving wrote:
> 
> On Wed, Sep 17, 2003 at 04:22:15AM -0700, Ric Otte wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 17, 2003 at 11:40:31AM +0100, Karsten M. Self wrote:
> > > on Wed, Sep 17, 2003 at 08:08:26AM +0800, csj ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > > > At Tue, 16 Sep 2003 17:08:51 +0200,
> > > > Matthias Czapla wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Tue, Sep 16, 2003 at 07:39:39AM -0700, Ric Otte wrote:
> > > > > > Hi, I would like to run all of the files in some directories
> > > > > > through sed, in order to edit the files.  I can do it for
> > > > > > individual files by typing: cat filename|sed command>filename
> > > > > > But that requires me to run that command for each file.  I
> > > > > > was wondering if anyone could 1) give me a reference to a
> > > > > > simple bash tutorial that will explain how to set up a script
> > > > > > to do things like this,
> > > > > 
> > > > > http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO.html
> > > > > 
> > > > > > and 2) tell me how to do it.
> > > > > 
> > > > > for f in *; do tmp=`tempfile`; cat $f | sed command > $tmp ; mv $tmp $f; done
> > > > 
> > > > Is there anything intrinsically wrong with:
> > > > 
> > > > find directory -name "*.foo" | xargs sed -i -f sed_script
> > > 
> 
> Perl also provides the -i option to change files in place and optionally 
> save a backup copy, e.g.,
> 
>   $ perl -i -pe 'command' *.foo
>   $ perl -i.bak -pe 'command' *.foo

And so too can sed:

  -i[suffix], --in-place[=suffix]
 edit files in place (makes backup if extension
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XFree86 Config

2003-09-17 Thread Rishikesh

I bought a new monitor and I want to reconfigure X.
How can I get the debconf menus to configure X I got
when I was installing debian. 

thank you

Rishi


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Re: zope?

2003-09-17 Thread Mark Roach
On Wed, 2003-09-17 at 14:25, Pim Bliek wrote:
> I have to add, I just found this in my /var/log/zope/Z2-detailed.log.
> There is nothing in Z2.log. It generates the message below when I try to
> acces it on localhost:9673
> 
> B 150063372 2003-09-17T20:19:55 GET /
> I 150063372 2003-09-17T20:19:55 0

try http://localhost:9673/manage it looks like your / page is empty for
some reason.

-Mark


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Gnome 2.x backport

2003-09-17 Thread Valter G. Nogueira Jr.
where can I find  a Gnome 2.x backport?

Thanks

Valter


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Re: New Kernel Breaks... dhclient?

2003-09-17 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Wed, Sep 17, 2003 at 02:57:10PM -0400, Jonathan Anderson wrote:
| [New Kernel Breaks... dhclient?]

Did you check the README (/usr/share/doc/dhcp-client/README.gz)?

You must enable the options
CONFIG_PACKET (Packet socket)
CONFIG_FILTER (Socket Filtering)
in your kernel configuration.

Your logs should have a message to this effect as well.

| Oh, one more thing: if I type "ifdown eth0", I see the following
| error message:
| 
| "cat: /var/run/dhclient.pid: No such file or directory".

This means dhclient isn't running when you tried to shut it down.

-D

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Re: Apache access control

2003-09-17 Thread Roberto Sanchez
 --- Ismael Valladolid Torres <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: 
> El miércoles, 17 de septiembre de 2003, a las 17:30, Roberto Sanchez escribe:
> > I can't figure out why this will not prompt for a password.
> 
> Check out the AllowOverride directive for that directory. If this
> directive is set to None, then .htaccess files are completely
> ignored. You will need at least `AllowOverride AuthConfig'.
> 

I'll check that out.  I'm pretty sure that's the problem.

> > I kind of need to figure this out before I can take the site live
> > (the password protection is a requirement from higher headquarters).
> 
> That password protection is not what I would call "security", unless
> you are using SSL.
> 

Absolutely right, but the big wigs want password protection, so we make one
username/password combo and give it out to everyone that needs access.  There
is no real reason to have it, other than "because they said so."  There is
really nothing to protect.

> Regards, Ismael

-Roberto


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Re: GNUPG: down from v1.2.0 to v1.0.6

2003-09-17 Thread Rodney D. Myers
On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 20:45:01 +0200
daniel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Abdul Latip wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Since I have less clue on keeping the pace of SARGE,
> > I have down-graded back to WOODY.
> > 
> > The problem is that the GNUPG keys made by version
> > 1.2.0 can not be read by version 1.0.6.
> > 
> > May I know, if there is a quick and dirty way to
> > convert?
> > 
> > regards,
> > 
> I am in the same situation as you but havent had time to investigate.
> 
> If you get to find out please let me know also.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> -daniel
> http://www.debian-gnu.com
> 

Why not grab the source code, and compile it yourself?

I do this with "sarge", coupled with a program called CheckInstall,
which will make a *.deb for your, so your system stays all deb all of
the time.

Just my $0.02 worth.

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valgrind-snapshot packaged (not officially)

2003-09-17 Thread Andrés Roldán
I'm glad to announce that valgrind-snapshot has been packaged.
I've made a script that makes the package daily.

It is currently not on the official Debian archives so, please,
do NOT report bugs to valgrind if you found a bug in valgrind-snapshot.
Instead, send me an email with the description of the problem.

The source is as follows:

deb http://people.fluidsignal.com/~aroldan/debian unstable main

# apt-get update && apt-get install valgrind-snapshot


PS: valgrind-snapshot conflicts with valgrind for obvious reasons.

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Open "bounce" relay in Exim 3.35

2003-09-17 Thread Bill Moseley

I set up an extra machine to relay mail to another machine (as an MX
backup) using relay_domains.

The problem is that the relaying machine accepts the mail for the domain
regardless of the local part.  But if the localpart doesn't exist on the
final machine then the mail is bounced back to the envelope sender.

If the envelope sender is fake and rejected then the mail is frozen.  
But it also provides a way to send mail (in the form of a bounce) to a 
third party.

In other words, someone could send mail to a fake address at my backup 
MX, and use the Mail From: address the real intended recipient.  They 
would get a bounce, but their message would also be attached.

Short of not running the secondary MX is there a way to prevent this?  
Can I get exim on the secondary to verify the address on the primary MX 
before accepting the mail?  (And if so, what would happen if the primary 
MX was down for a period of time?)

Thanks,


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Re: print HTML in "B" size

2003-09-17 Thread Ken Irving
On Wed, Sep 17, 2003 at 03:20:37PM -0400, Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote:
> I want to print a certain web page[1], which includes color and
> images, on "B" size paper (aka "Ledger", 11"x17").  My printer can
> handle 11x17 just fine, but I don't know how to convert the HTML to PS
> for the printer.  Neither galeon nor mozilla allow choosing that paper
> size, nor do they let me choose an arbitrary size.
> 
> What tool(s) will fit the bill here?

In galeon I usually replace the printer command with:

psnup -n 1 > preview.ps

where psnup is in the psutils package.  Other options can be used to set
the output paper size, or the psresize command can be used to change the
target size.

Ken

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Re: Debian patches

2003-09-17 Thread Darik Horn
> I understand number 3, but... what are numbers 1 and 2 ??  8-?

The bk series is from the Bit Keeper repository, a tool that Marcello 
Tosatti (and other kernel developers) use for source code control.

The ac series is from Alan Cox, which tends to have cutting-edge stuff.

Numerous people maintain their own kernel trees, they usually append 
their initials to the tarballs that they release.

Joan Tur wrote:
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Hallo!

Having a look at http://www.linuxhq.com I can see that 2.4.22 is the last 
stable 2.4 kernel, and there are 3 different patches available:

1. 2.4.22-bk20,
2. 2.4.22-ac3,
3. 2.4.23-pre4
I understand number 3, but... what are numbers 1 and 2 ??  8-?

Thanks.

PD  the only thing I'm sure about is that in 2.4.22-ac3 I have found 
Centrino's speedstep support  ;)
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Re: sed, bash script

2003-09-17 Thread Ken Irving
On Wed, Sep 17, 2003 at 04:22:15AM -0700, Ric Otte wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 17, 2003 at 11:40:31AM +0100, Karsten M. Self wrote:
> > on Wed, Sep 17, 2003 at 08:08:26AM +0800, csj ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > > At Tue, 16 Sep 2003 17:08:51 +0200,
> > > Matthias Czapla wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > On Tue, Sep 16, 2003 at 07:39:39AM -0700, Ric Otte wrote:
> > > > > Hi, I would like to run all of the files in some directories
> > > > > through sed, in order to edit the files.  I can do it for
> > > > > individual files by typing: cat filename|sed command>filename
> > > > > But that requires me to run that command for each file.  I
> > > > > was wondering if anyone could 1) give me a reference to a
> > > > > simple bash tutorial that will explain how to set up a script
> > > > > to do things like this,
> > > > 
> > > > http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO.html
> > > > 
> > > > > and 2) tell me how to do it.
> > > > 
> > > > for f in *; do tmp=`tempfile`; cat $f | sed command > $tmp ; mv $tmp $f; done
> > > 
> > > Is there anything intrinsically wrong with:
> > > 
> > > find directory -name "*.foo" | xargs sed -i -f sed_script
> > 

Perl also provides the -i option to change files in place and optionally 
save a backup copy, e.g.,

  $ perl -i -pe 'command' *.foo
  $ perl -i.bak -pe 'command' *.foo

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Re: Re: sid: kinit showing passwd!

2003-09-17 Thread Anders Lennartsson
David Maze wrote:

> kinit (from the MIT Kerberos packages, not Heimdal) works as I (and you)
> expect.  Where does your kinit come from?
>
>  which kinit
>  dpkg -S `which kinit`

This is most disturbing. After a check at my home lan where it worked,
of course,
I followed up what kinit I was using at work, where I discovered the
problem:

~$ type -all kinit
kinit is /usr/bin/kinit
~$ ls -l /usr/bin/kinit 
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   23 Sep 16 14:43 /usr/bin/kinit
-> /etc/alternatives/kinit
~$ ls -l /etc/alternatives/kinit 
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   27 Sep 16 14:44
/etc/alternatives/kinit -> /usr/lib/j2se/1.4/bin/kinit

!!! On a correctly configured debian box with krb5-user, the
/usr/bin/kinit is a file, not a link!
And the test you suggested makes one think everything is ok, although it
should normally sort it out:

~$  dpkg -S `which kinit`
krb5-user: /usr/bin/kinit


The problem seems to be caused by the thing I did yesterday.
For the first time ever, I installed an unofficial deb, the j2sdk1.4
compiled with gcc-3.2, downloaded from jrfonseca.dyndns.org/debian.
Found the link on apt-get.org.
I didn't exactly read every line of the install progress, but there were
no flashing signs of it overwriting my krb5-user files, kinit and klist!
Yes the other file is also exchanged. There may be more, I haven't
checked yet. I'm really upset by this happening silently...

Interesting thing though, the java stuff worked with mozilla as I
expected.

Now should I consider the whole machine tainted, or is this only a bug?



As a note:
I use the krb5-xxx official packages at version 1.3, and they normally
works lika charm.
With the "fake" kinit, when I write an incorrect password or none at
all, the output looks like the following:
(obviously incorrect password is here sdklakjfd)

~$ kinit
Password for [EMAIL PROTECTED]:sdklakjfd
Exception: krb_error 24 Pre-authentication information was invalid (24)
- PREAUTH_FAILED Pre-authentication information was invalid
KrbException: Pre-authentication information was invalid (24) -
PREAUTH_FAILED
at sun.security.krb5.KrbAsRep.(DashoA6275:65)
at sun.security.krb5.KrbAsReq.getReply(DashoA6275:308)
at sun.security.krb5.KrbAsReq.getReply(DashoA6275:271)
at sun.security.krb5.internal.tools.Kinit.(DashoA6275:264)
at sun.security.krb5.internal.tools.Kinit.main(DashoA6275:104)
Caused by: KrbException: Identifier doesn't match expected value (906)
at sun.security.krb5.internal.af.a(DashoA6275:129)
at sun.security.krb5.internal.au.a(DashoA6275:58)
at sun.security.krb5.internal.au.(DashoA6275:53)
at sun.security.krb5.KrbAsRep.(DashoA6275:48)
... 4 more


If I typed the correct I did actually get a TGT, at least the "fake"
klist reported so. Everything was kind of sluggish with these programs.


Cheers,
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Re: Problem trying to start X-windows in a Debiam 3.0 installation under Virtual PC

2003-09-17 Thread Mike Dresser
On Wed, 17 Sep 2003, David Fokkema wrote:

> On Wed, 2003-09-17 at 20:39, Jaime Ash wrote:
>
> > Does anybody in this group have any clues?
>
> Yes. According to your logs, you have selected the nvidia driver, but
> that driver thinks there is no nvidia card in your pc. So, to be able to
> help you, we need some info. To begin with, what video card do you have
> installed?

Virtual PC may be different, but under vmware at least, you tell X you
have a vmware "video card" and vmware handles how to talk to your real
card.  VMware could hypothetically run on any hardware without haveing to
change the emulated session settings.

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