on-screen-all-desktop-log-watch for Gnome2.4
Hello all! I reinstalled my Sid box few days ago and switched from sawfish to metacity and from iso... to utf-8 locales. Now I can't run root-portal, that I used to use for watch what was happening down inside. Is there any other tool for watching logfiles, that works with Gnome2.4 AND shows on all my desktops? Thanks Mody signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: UUCP & Usenet (was Re: NTP packages (was: setting hardware clock from NIST))
Ron Johnson wrote: > Bob Proulx wrote: > > In the beginning systems were isolated. There was no net. Then UUCP > > brought light unto the darkness. This was called USENET and we saw > > > > I thought that "Unix-Unix cp" was for, well, copying files, of which > Usenet files were only a subset? UUCP enabled mail and news which IMNHO were the foundation for USENET. The underlying foundation to both mail and news is to be able to copy files between systems. UUCP was a reasonable networking technology back in the day. If you can copy data then you can implement anything[1]. Until you start networking you don't really care what time systems are keeping. How many people ever reset the time on their watch while getting away from it all camping? It is only in interaction that good time keeping was important. How many times do you see people post messages here with bad system times and the comments that produces from the readers? USENET provided a way for people to flame^Winteract with others. But of course it was only part of it. Bob [1] http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2549.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian install went fine, but windoze slowed to a crawl
David Millet wrote: so i just finished my first successful installation of debian (thank you, thank you, i'll be signing autographs until tuesday), originally it was just my win2000 drive in, i left it in there as the master (hda) and put in a new drive as slave (hdb) which i installed debian is. i can boot flawlessly into one or the other through lilo, problem is that windows has now slowed to a crawl (i know, its windows what do i expect but it wasnt like this before). if i select windows at the lilo prompt, it takes literally ten minutes before i get a login prompt. its seriously slow. i'm trying to figure out what it could be other than a power issue, which it very well may be. maybe my 300 watts power supply isnt enough for my hardware, but i think it should be... but i wanted to hear if you folks had any other ideas about what it could be. what do you think? david I'd try unplugging hdb to see if that has any effect. I suspect Windows is seeing another drive and trying to read it and can't. But that's just a guess. -- Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: An apology
On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 09:30:00PM -0800, Mark Healey wrote: > I've been having quite a bit of trouble getting a debian system > installed. Because it wasn't nearly as easy as I was told I've been > getting quite petulant and taken it out on people who've been nothing > but helpful. I understand the frustration. I really do hope that you get it sorted out okay. And I realize I was pretty snippy back at you, too. Sorry 'bout that. > I am sorry. No hard feelings as far as I'm concerned. Cheers -- ,-. > -ScruLoose- |They that can give up essential liberty< > Please do not | to obtain a little temporary safety < > reply off-list. | deserve neither liberty nor safety. < > | - Benjamin Franklin < `-' pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: how to make unicode mode default for all virtual consoles?
on Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 12:58:34PM +0100, Miernik ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Currently Unicode mode come's up as default on the first console, but > for consoles 2 to 6 I need to run unicode_start on every console. What > is the proper Debian way to have unicode mode on all vc's by default? > > Second thing: I have created a polish unicode keymak myslef in > /usr/share/keymaps/i386/qwerty/pl-uni.kmap.gz > and set it as a default keymap with install-keymap pl-uni. > But the system doesn't like it as a bootup default. It says > > Mon Nov 3 19:42:45 2003: Loading /etc/console/boottime.kmap.gz > Mon Nov 3 19:42:45 2003: loadkeys: warning: this map uses Unicode symbols > Mon Nov 3 19:42:45 2003: (perhaps you want to do `kbd_mode -u'?) > > And I still need to run 'loadkeys pl-uni' on every console after > bootup to make it work. Then my unicode keyboard works OK. > How to make it automatic? Check /etc/init.d/*console* scripts. Those *should* set up loadkeys on all consoles if I'm RTFMing properly. You likely need to add the '-u' flag. man loadkeys ...for more info. Peace. -- Karsten M. Self <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What Part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? The [Wall Street] Journal's editorial page made the mistake of relying on the accuracy and completeness of The Journal's reporting. - Warren E. Buffett, letter to the Wall Street Journal, October 7, 2003 signature.asc Description: Digital signature
debian install went fine, but windoze slowed to a crawl
so i just finished my first successful installation of debian (thank you, thank you, i'll be signing autographs until tuesday), originally it was just my win2000 drive in, i left it in there as the master (hda) and put in a new drive as slave (hdb) which i installed debian is. i can boot flawlessly into one or the other through lilo, problem is that windows has now slowed to a crawl (i know, its windows what do i expect but it wasnt like this before). if i select windows at the lilo prompt, it takes literally ten minutes before i get a login prompt. its seriously slow. i'm trying to figure out what it could be other than a power issue, which it very well may be. maybe my 300 watts power supply isnt enough for my hardware, but i think it should be... but i wanted to hear if you folks had any other ideas about what it could be. what do you think? david -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
An apology
I've been having quite a bit of trouble getting a debian system installed. Because it wasn't nearly as easy as I was told I've been getting quite petulant and taken it out on people who've been nothing but helpful. I am sorry. Mark Healey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Giving debian a chance. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Faked Browser with Mozilla Firebird
on Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 10:21:45PM +, Clive Menzies ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > I'm intrigued. why would you want to do this? I understand Opera > does it because MS had found a way to lock them out of certain sites. > Is this also a problem for Mozilla? http://twiki.iwethey.org/Main/UserAgentString The user-agent string has been the source of many of the Web's worst ills. It's strongly encouraged that it be done away with in a way that encourages better practices from site authors. Peace. -- Karsten M. Self <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What Part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? Information is not power after all: Old-fashioned power is power. If you aren't big industry or government, you have very little power. Once they've hacked the electronic voting system, you'll have no power at all. - Robert X. Cringely signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Abiword in testing unusable
On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 08:32:51PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 20:25, Carl Fink wrote: > > Same thing as you, as I quoted above. So what's apt-get trying to > > install? > > Dunno. Show us the whole command + all messages. Okay, here's what happens with abiword proper: nitpicking:/home/carlf/News/video# apt-get install abiword Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that the package is simply not installable and a bug report against that package should be filed. The following information may help to resolve the situation: The following packages have unmet dependencies: abiword: Depends: libperl5.6 (>= 5.6.1-8.3) but 5.6.1-8.2 is to be installed E: Broken packages And with abiword-GTK: nitpicking:/home/carlf/News/video# apt-get install abiword-GTK Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that the package is simply not installable and a bug report against that package should be filed. The following information may help to resolve the situation: The following packages have unmet dependencies: abiword-gtk: Depends: libpspell4 (>= 0.12.2-5) but it is not going to be installed Depends: abiword-common (= 1.0.2+cvs.2002.06.05-1) but 2.0.0+cvs.2003.09.25-0jds1 is to be installed E: Broken packages Thanks for the effort, Ron. -- Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabootu's Minister of Proofreading http://www.jabootu.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: F-Prot and Amavis, exim
on Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 11:31:38AM +0100, Mark Maas ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Hello all, > > I have the following system running smoothly for some tim enow: > Exim3, Amavis, spamassassin and Clamav-antivirus. > > I just wanted to add F-prot to the list, so Installed it and uncommented the > appropriate lines in amavis.conf (so the scanner is actually used) Please ensure that you *DON'T* enable the autoresponder option of any of these virus filters. With the amount of spoofed virus headers out and about these days, such responses are more often than not spam, and dilute the significance of legitimate messages. You may find your site blacklisted as a spam source. Major AV vendors have been uncooperative in modifying their configuration settings on this matter. > But now i'm getting these is the syslog: > > Nov 6 10:31:45 menem amavis[441]: (00441-08) FRISK F-Prot Daemon: Can't > connect to INET socket 127.0.0.1:10204: Connection refused, retrying (15) Is the daemon open? Can you telnet to the port? Peace. -- Karsten M. Self <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What Part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? "The ships hung in the sky in much the same way that bricks don't" -- HHGTG signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: heres my noob install questions, smart people please help
On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 05:25:24PM -0700, David Millet wrote: > ok so i've been doing this linux desktop thing for about a year now, > started with redhat, then went to mandrake, now i want to move on to > debian, i'm still a noob so i've been reading up on the install > instructions on http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/install but > before i got started i wanted to ask you all a few questions: > > 1) are these instructions > http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/install the best for a noob > like me or are there some better ones out there somewhere? > 2) i have 2 harddrives, hda and hdb, hda has win2000 on it, its divided > into 3 fat32 partitions, hdb has an old install of mandrake on it, i > want to put debian on hdb, is the filesystem manager on the install cds > comprehensible enough to where i'll be able to format the partitions on > hdb without messing up hda? all my important data is on hda, so if > something happens to hda i'm screwed It has already been suggested that you back up /dev/hda , but if you don't have a means for doing that, you can keep your Windoze stuf safe by opening your computer box and disconnecting the power cable from the /dev/hda drive before you attempt the install on /deb/hdb (do this with the power OFF). In fact, I would recommend disconnecting the hda drive whenever you are doing major surgery on /dev/hdb . During the surgery, access to Windoze is not needed, so put that stuff in a condition where spilt blood won't damage it. After the patient recovers from the operation, you can give it access to the Windoze stuf. -- Paul E Condon [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"
On Thu, 06 Nov 2003 17:58:51 -0700 David Millet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >Complain to the store's owner that his employees overwrote your > >data, and demand compensation. Contact the BSA, and tell them > >about the unlicensed Windows. > > > > > hell ya! > > Contact MS and tell them about the unlicensed windows install. Give them the name and address of the dealer, and say that you have it on good authority that he is the coordinator for the MSBlaster programme. Buy your sister a brand new Omni with Debian installed out of the reward money. Regards, David. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
exim3 + amavis-new + clamav (clamd) - Help!
Okay, I've got exim working. Courier-imap is working well, and messages are popping into folders. I decided to try ClamAV, and am running into trouble. I installed clamav, clamav-daemon and amavis-new. I can run a clamscan from the command promptand scan user directories. I don't see where amavis-new is coming into the picture. I edited my amavis.conf to use Exim3 format and use ClamAV. Amavis-new starts up automatically. clamd is also running. When I go to http://www.declude.com/tools/mailsend.html and send a virus to my server, it does not pick it up and quarantine it. I looked in /var/log and do not see logging for amavis. Where do I start looking? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] SCO's crack legal team
Greg Norris wrote: On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 09:35:53AM +0800, csj wrote: Speaking of IP hassles, maybe you should have exported that into the free png format. The original version was png, actually... I converted it to gif because more browsers handle that format, and it has a significantly smaller file size in this instance. The site it's hosted on has a minimal bandwidth allocation, so size was not an insignificant concern. In addition, the gif patent has expired in the USA (and is very close to doing so elsewhere), and simply isn't an issue which troubles me all that much. If anyone requests the png version, I'd be happy to email it. People are welcome to share either version (email, posting on the web, whatever). Just out of curiousity, did you originally save it as a 24-bit or 8-bit PNG? IIRC, GIFs are always 8-bit and 8-bit PNGs are comparable in size. I can understand how a 24-bit PNG would be bigger, but I can't see how an 8-bit would be that much different in size. -Roberto pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Separate /home drive?
On Thu, 06 Nov 2003 22:57:50 +0100 Andreas Janssen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello > > David Palmer. (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote: > > > I've been reading different partitioning howtos but can't find any > > reference to a situation I thought I would like to install. > > It's probably a newbie idea, but I wondered if it would be possible to > > have system partitions on one drive, and posting to /home on another. > > Yes, it is possible. If you do not yet have installed Debian, create the > two partitions (you can do this during the installation). Next format > and mount them. The installation program lets you choose where you want > to mount your partitions, choose /home for the home partition. > > If you already have installed Debian, create a new partition, format it > (for example with mke2fs if you want to use ext2 or ext3). Next, mount > it somewhere, move your stuff from /home to the new partition (/don't/ > move the home dir itself there, only it's contents), unmount it and > remount it in /home. Now all you have to do is to add a line to your > fstab to have it mounted at boottime automatically. > > best regards > Andreas Janssen > Thank you Paul, Andreas, Miernik and Ron. Regards, David. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ssh-agent
On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 10:39:58PM +, Geoff Thurman wrote: > Forgive me if this is cretinous beyond compare, but I am confused. I am > on a standalone machine, and never use SSH, and yet there is an > SSH-agent in my /tmp. Is this normal? I believe that Debian's default X session scripts run your X session inside an ssh-agent. It shouldn't cause any kind of problem, security-related or otherwise; it's just there if you want it. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: heres my noob install questions, smart people please help
On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 05:56:44PM -0700, David Millet wrote: > hey thanx so much for your help, just one quick question > > >Yes, but I wouldn't recommend it. The FAT filesystem semantics aren't the > >same > >as Unix, and it's not a very good filesystem anyway. I would leave your > >Unix > >homedir on a Unix filesystem, and mount the fat32 partition somewhere else. > > > > > i want to easily be able to share certain files between windoze and > linux, for example .fla macromedia flash files, flash has issues under > wine so i'd prefer to boot into windoze when i need to use flash and i > thought it would be easiest to just mount that windoze logical drive as > my /home/david drive, would you suggest something else? obviously i > cant format that windows partition with a non-bill-gates-approved > filesystem, so i guess i could mount it to /home/david/windozefiles or > something like that. I think the traditional (and likely easiest) way to share stuff back and forth is to just create a directory somewhere (like /mnt/windows, or /home/david/windozefiles if you prefer) to use as a mount-point for that fat32 partition. > if i were to mount it to /home/david would linux > corrupt the fat32 or something? No. But lots of programs save stuff to your home dir, and some of them will later check back to see if those files have the right permissions on them. fat32 doesn't _have_ permissions, so those programs may barf. It's just going to be less of a headache for you to leave /home/david on an appropriate linux filesystem, and mount your windows partition someplace else. Cheers! -- ,-. > -ScruLoose- | < > Please do not | Bwahahaha-- I mean, oops. < > reply off-list. | < `-' pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: What's the best package manager for single-package upgrades?
On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 11:19:47AM -0800, Joe Rhett wrote: > Colin Watson wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 04:41:50PM -0600, DePriest, Jason R. wrote: > > > Try adding this line to your /etc/apt/apt.conf file and see if you get > > > better results with your 'apt-get update': > > > APT::Default-Release "testing"; > > > > That's unnecessary if you only have one release listed in > > /etc/apt/sources.list (which is the configuration I'd strongly > > recommend) and may just introduce confusion in that case. > > Although I totally understand your logic, the idea I am hoping can work is > to run 'stable' by default, and upgrade to 'testing' versions of packages > only as necessary to fulfill a given need. While it's a nice idea, it won't actually work as you want, because packages in testing almost always depend on testing's libc6. Once you've upgraded to that, there's really very little point in trying to run stable for everything else, because you've already upgraded one of the parts of the system most likely to introduce instability. Also, other packages, particularly those related to interpreters like perl and python, frequently require the upgrade of surprisingly large swathes of your system. This is why I recommend against trying to mix stable and testing. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What's the best package manager for single-package upgrades?#
On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 11:53:12AM -0800, Joe Rhett wrote: > Colin Watson wrote: > > Ah, that would explain your confusion. 'apt-get upgrade' isn't what you > > want, since as documented in the apt-get(8) man page it will not install > > new packages. In particular, if you attempt to use 'apt-get upgrade' to > > upgrade from stable to testing, it will refuse to upgrade libc6 because > > of that package's new dependency on libdb1-compat, and therefore > > virtually nothing else will be upgraded because it almost all depends on > > the new libc6. > > Actually, it does attempt that when I prefer 'unstable' .. and it fails. > I had to manually back that stuff out. Perhaps you could actually show us what's happening when you try to upgrade to testing, i.e. a complete transcript of what you're doing? Guesswork isn't really so much fun. > > Don't use 'apt-get upgrade' to upgrade from one version of the > > distribution to the next. That said, it should have told you that some > > big number of packages were being held back. > > Nope. "No updates are available" or whatever. "Or whatever"? Again, exact transcripts please, including /etc/apt/sources.list. > > > Updates to the wireless drivers to improve device support would be > > > useful. > > > > Kernel updates go in pretty quickly, as a rule. wireless-tools is up to > > date in testing, and linux-wlan-ng is only a fraction behind unstable. > > Why isn't it showing me these? Kernel package names change, therefore package management tools don't upgrade them automatically, which is probably a good thing for kernels. Use a real package manager (not apt-get) which shows you new packages. > > > Stuff that has been safe and stable within Sid for over a year now > > > (according to the package pages) still isn't appearing in testing. > > > > Examples, please? I'd be happy to look at them and see what I can do; I > > can certainly explain what problems are involved. > > Perhaps related to above? Am I doing something wrong that I'm not seeing > this stuff? As I said, I need examples and transcripts. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Lynx vs xli
On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 09:27:02PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I've managed to fight through a bunch of problems, some my own, some > caused by Debian's way of doing things. (For example, although my > display is now mostly configured to my liking, I still have no clue where > XFConfig-4 is getting its modelines from.) They're built into the server, of course. Isn't it wonderful that 99.9% of the time, you don't have to worry in the slightest about specifying modelines any more, yet the functionality is still available to you if you want it? This is hardly a "Debian way of doing things"... unless you want to claim that Debian controls XFree or something. -- Marc Wilson | "Problem solving under linux has never been the [EMAIL PROTECTED] | circus that it is under AIX." (By Pete Ehlke in | comp.unix.aix) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sawfish debian menu compatibility?
On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 11:31:48AM -0600, andy bezella wrote: > a few sid upgrades ago (i believe starting with the recent cvs > checkouts) it appears that sawfish lost compatibility (to some extent) > with the debian menu system. the apps menu does not appear on the root > window menu. At some point, sawfish's menu-method file started creating 'debian-menu.jl' in /var/lib/sawfish instead of /etc/X11/sawfish. I have no idea if that's related to the issue you're having... I haven't used sawfish in several years. Just looked at the current unstable package, and that's what it's still doing. Where does your root menu expect to find the Debian menu? -- Marc Wilson | The nice thing about Windows is - It does not just [EMAIL PROTECTED] | crash, it displays a dialog box and lets you press | 'OK' first. (Arno Schaefer's .sig) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Going to give it another shot-need more help
Mark Healey wrote: On Thu, 6 Nov 2003 13:09:24 -0500, ScruLoose wrote: First off. I am doing this because none of the kernels on the cds support my nic. Consequently, any suggestions that involve using apt-get show that the suggestor is a moron who doesn't pay attention. Whereas I might agree that the person is not paying attention, I don't believe I'd agree that s/he's a moron. There are lots of messages that go by on this list. If you mention something in a post, and four or twenty postings later in the same thread someone makes a comment even if he's been reading the thread all along, he may not remember that detail from four postings ago, particularly if he's been reading two or three other threads that are similar to the one in question. Also, from the post to which this message is a reply, I'm not sure if Mark Healy or ScruLoose wrote the paragraph mentioning a moron. We all make mistakes in quote attribution at times, and have been the victim of incorrect attribution. Also, my X isn't working either so the same applies to people who suggest using some X program to fix the problem. I know I've responded to Mark a time or two, maybe about X; maybe about the network; I just don't remember, and I don't keep the messages around too long, and I'm too lazy to go search the archives every time I need to remember a detail. If I've offended you by saying things that seem stupid to you, I apologize. It's not that I'm particularly stupid; it's that I can't remember who I told what when about what issue. One thing that helps in this regard is to keep different topics in different threads, and to title the subject line accordingly. For example, X issues might be titled something like "X won't start for this newbie", and network issues might be titled something like "3c59x module loads, but can't ping". This also helps other users when they go searching the archives for answers to their similar dilemmas. So, what's wrong again with your X setup? Buying another nic card isn't an option either. Why? I vaguely remember someone saying they couldn't get to town to get a nic because they have a broken/missing accelerator cable. Perhaps that was you? Or is it because you can't afford one? Don't have the slots available for one? Experience has shown that I'm going to have to include the above in every post. Sorry I'm so dense. But yep, I need lots of repetition. I've decided to roll my own (this is hacker shit that an ordinary user should never have to even think about) becasue none of the precompiled kernels match what I have very well. You're right; ordinary users shouldn't have to think about rolling their own if they're paying for service. However, if you're getting something free, sometimes you have to accept the flaws in that product. Debian coders are volunteers; I'm sure they'd love to have real paying jobs where they could scratch their itch and yours. Instead, they scratch their itch because they want to, and if you benefit from it, great!. And part of that itch scratching for many of them is to solve problems for you, but that's lower on the priority list for most. I certainly understand your frustration. I've been there a time or two. I've learned to blame the hardware manufacturers for not supporting Debian instead of blaming Debian for not supporting certain hardware. I hope that lesson has made me a better citizen of the Debian community. I've managed to get the tarball for 2.4.22 which is what kernel.org says is the latest stable one. I need instructions. Someone suggested: Also check out "The Very Verbose Guide to Updating and Compiling Your Debian Kernel" http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=2949 Which was close but unfortunately is apt-get and X dependent. Is there a site that has instructions in comparable depth that only depend on console apps? I would suggest (modestly?) that you read "Kent's 10-Step Procedure to Compiling a Debian Kernel", which is the bottom section of "README.gz" in /usr/share/doc/kernel-package (you'll need to "apt-get install kernel-package" to ge this document). It also seems to be online here: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2002/debian-user-200205/msg02951.html. It may not answer your questions, but it covers the things that I saw as issues. -- Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Going to give it another shot-need more help
On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 04:51:54PM -0800, Mark Healey wrote: > On Thu, 6 Nov 2003 13:09:24 -0500, ScruLoose wrote: > > First off. I am doing this because none of the kernels on the cds > support my nic. Consequently, any suggestions that involve using > apt-get show that the suggestor is a moron who doesn't pay attention. > Also, my X isn't working either so the same applies to people who > suggest using some X program to fix the problem. Or maybe some of the people offering you their suggestions (for free, remember) actually have a life and haven't been following your thread from the beginning. > Buying another nic card isn't an option either. Fair enough. I felt the same way, and I got the damn thing to work. > Experience has shown that I'm going to have to include the above in > every post. Yep. Give people enough context that they can make an informed answer. Do not assume they've read preceding posts. Often they haven't. > I've decided to roll my own (this is hacker shit that an ordinary user > should never have to even think about) Well, if you're not prepared to spend the $15 on better-supported hardware... You've made your choice. Admittedly it's the same choice I made, but I didn't go around bitching about how it was all somebody's fault and how put-upon poor little me was about the whole thing. > becasue none of the precompiled kernels match what I have very well. Yep. Again, that's my situation exactly. I had a NIC, the precompiled kernels didn't want to work with it, no X installed on machine... > I've managed to get the tarball for 2.4.22 which is what kernel.org > says is the latest stable one. You could instead get a kernel-source debian package. Rumour has it that they come already-patched, although I have no idea personally how significant the differences would be. And please don't tell me that I'm a) assuming you have apt working and b) a moron. You got the tarball somehow, right? Get the deb somehow. Once it's on the machine in question, dpkg -i will install it (which in the case of a kernel-source package means that it'll unpack it into the appropriate /usr/src/ subdirectory for you). http://packages.debian.org is your starting point to manually download deb packages, and kernel-source packages depend on very little (nothing that's branch-specific, so you can go ahead and take the 2.4.22 even though it's listed as testing/unstable). > I need instructions. Someone suggested: Yep. "Someone" was me. > >Also check out "The Very Verbose Guide to Updating and Compiling Your > >Debian Kernel" > > http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=2949 > > Which was close but unfortunately is apt-get and X dependent. > Is there a site that has instructions in comparable depth that only > depend on console apps? That guide is not dependent on apt-get OR X. Substitude make menuconfig for make xconfig, and ta-da, you can do it from the console. That fact is explicitly pointed out in the article. You might want to be careful throwing around terms like "moron" when you can't be bothered to actually _read_ the resources you've been offered. People in glass houses and all that. You _do_ need to install the tools mentioned in that article, but nobody really cares whether you apt-get them or download them onto another machine, put them on a CDR(W), and dpkg -i them onto the system you need them on. Or, much tidier, if you've got a Knoppix disk and your NIC works under Knoppix: you can boot knoppix, mount your hard drive read-write, download packages, reboot into Debian and dpkg -i to install them. Tidier yet, apt-get them off your CDs (if you have the woody CDs that include those packages, of course. I don't know what's on which disk). Whatever. Just use whatever method you used on your kernel-source tarball to get the relevant .deb files to the machine, install them, and quit insulting the people who are trying to help you. I had a NIC-not-supported problem just last week (on a machine with no X, by the way), and that worked for me. I didn't need that last step, though, because I wasn't tossing insults around in the first place. > Giving debian a chance. With this attitude? -- ,-. > -ScruLoose- | If fifty million people say a foolish thing, < > Please do not | it's still a foolish thing. < > reply off-list. | - Bertrand Russell < `-' pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [OT] SCO's crack legal team
On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 09:35:53AM +0800, csj wrote: > Speaking of IP hassles, maybe you should have exported that into > the free png format. The original version was png, actually... I converted it to gif because more browsers handle that format, and it has a significantly smaller file size in this instance. The site it's hosted on has a minimal bandwidth allocation, so size was not an insignificant concern. In addition, the gif patent has expired in the USA (and is very close to doing so elsewhere), and simply isn't an issue which troubles me all that much. If anyone requests the png version, I'd be happy to email it. People are welcome to share either version (email, posting on the web, whatever). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Testing URIs not working
> From: Wayne Topa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Have you read any of the below? > > /usr/share/doc/newbiedoc/newbiedoc-html/apt-get-intro/index-apt-get-intro.html > /usr/share/doc/newbiedoc/newbiedoc-html/apt-get-intro/apt-and-install.html > /usr/share/doc/newbiedoc/newbiedoc-html/apt-get-intro/info.html > /usr/share/doc/newbiedoc/newbiedoc-html/apt-get-intro/intro.html > /usr/share/doc/newbiedoc/newbiedoc-html/apt-get-intro/more.html > /usr/share/doc/newbiedoc/newbiedoc-html/apt-get-intro/index.html > /usr/share/doc/newbiedoc/newbiedoc-ps/apt-get-intro.ps > /usr/share/doc/Debian/apt-howto/ch-apt-get.en.html Not on my system. Sniffing with google, I found a source, but I would have to join the newbieDoc group, and this would mean registering with Yahoo. They would not be part of a package, would they? Thanks, though, for the suggestion Haines -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: User looses access to DISPLAY (resolved)
> Haines Brown wrote: > > Finally bringing to conclusion my first debian (3.0r.1) install, I > > ran aptitude update. When I subsequently rebooted, user cannot > > start x, but root can. Sorry to reply to myself, but thought the information might be useful. After spending much of the day sniffing about, a likely cause was that my update had filled /var, and that would prevent X from starting. However, that was not so in my case, although it is something good to keep in mind. I finally discovered that changing my window manager executable in ~/.xsession from icewm to icewm-session, as I was advised to do, caused the X server to die once I had booted. Changing it back to "icemn" allowed user to start X. Haines Brown -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kde under sid
On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 12:55, Debian User wrote: > I removed gdm, invoked startx, and it launched gnome. I tried to > install kde again, and I receive the following: > > The following packages have unmet dependencies: > kde: Depends: kde-core but it is not going to be installed >Depends: kde-amusements but it is not going to be installed >Depends: kdemultimedia but it is not going to be installed > E: Broken packages "-u" is your friend. It looks like "kde" still refers to v3.1.1, and there's a mixture of 3.1.[123] in the repository. > On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 19:15, Ron Johnson wrote: > > On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 11:57, Debian User wrote: > > > I just upgraded from woody to sid. Gnome will start up fine, but kde > > > crashes instantly when started from the gdm login. I can use apt-get to > > > install kde components(i.e. konsole, kpackage) just fine. Is this a > > > known issue? > > > > What happens if you remove gdm and start X from the console using > > startx? -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jefferson, LA USA "Man, I'm pretty. Hoo Hah!" Johnny Bravo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: heres my noob install questions, smart people please help
David Millet wrote: 1) are these instructions http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/install the best for a noob like me or are there some better ones out there somewhere? These instructions cover lots of different methods of installation and lots of different situations. As a result, they are vague in spots. It would be ideal if you could find instructions tailored to your hardware and your desires for what you want to do with the box, but you're not likely to find that. So I'd highly recommend you read these instructions, and then google for two or three other documents that cover Debian installation, just so you can compare concepts as one author leaves out some detail that another author includes. Even better, do an installation, use it for about thirty minutes, then wipe it and do it again. Repeat about three times. Then, if you can swing it, do the same thing on some different type of hardware, like a Macintosh or a Sparc. Nothing beats experience. 2) i have 2 harddrives, hda and hdb, hda has win2000 on it, its divided into 3 fat32 partitions, hdb has an old install of mandrake on it, i want to put debian on hdb, is the filesystem manager on the install cds comprehensible enough to where i'll be able to format the partitions on hdb without messing up hda? all my important data is on hda, so if something happens to hda i'm screwed If it's really important, make a backup first. Having said that, you won't have any trouble. Probably. 3) i see that lilo is the default bootloader, i know that if i put the windows lines in lilo.conf and i run /sbin/lilo it should let me choose between booting into windows or linux when i restart, are there any hangups or problems i need to look out for? i have some experience editing the lilo.conf file with good success in mandrake... It's been my experience that the installation program doesn't include Windows in lilo.conf (that may have changed in more recent versions). So you may have to add that back in manually after your reboot into Debian. Also, if you upgrade kernels (the "default" on a Woody install is 2.2.x I believe), you'll need to make the change in lilo.conf mentioned during the upgrade, about adding "initrd=/initrd.img" into the kernel stanza. (You can ignore the other tip for now, about editing kernel-img.conf - that's just for convenience on subsequent kernel upgrades.) I also believe that the default lilo.conf doesn't present you with the prompt/menu; you'll have to uncomment the appropriate lines and re-run lilo. 4) once i get debian up and running, i want to set it up to where the second partition on hda, my win2000 fat32 drive, is mounted as my home directory as a user. in other words, i want one of my fat32 partitions mounted at /home/david/ after i create the david user account. can that be done? It can be done, but I wouldn't. Instead, I'd create a directory something like /home/david/SharedWithWin and mount the partition there. -- Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kde under sid
I removed gdm, invoked startx, and it launched gnome. I tried to install kde again, and I receive the following: The following packages have unmet dependencies: kde: Depends: kde-core but it is not going to be installed Depends: kde-amusements but it is not going to be installed Depends: kdemultimedia but it is not going to be installed E: Broken packages On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 19:15, Ron Johnson wrote: > On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 11:57, Debian User wrote: > > I just upgraded from woody to sid. Gnome will start up fine, but kde > > crashes instantly when started from the gdm login. I can use apt-get to > > install kde components(i.e. konsole, kpackage) just fine. Is this a > > known issue? > > What happens if you remove gdm and start X from the console using > startx? > > -- > - > Ron Johnson, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jefferson, LA USA > > The difference between Rock&Roll and Country Music? > Old Rockers still on tour are pathetic, but old Country singers > are still great. > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cannot install, upgrade, remove, etc.
Papadopoulos Alexis wrote: Installing is impossible, whatever I do I mustn't need dpkg, it doesn't work. Now as for the copying files from somewhere else solution, it would be great but I have 2 problems : 1) I don't know where I could get those files 2) even if I did, as I said before if I try to replace one of the broken files, my system immediatly reboots (now I know why) Actually the more I'm thinking it, the more I feel in a dead-end... If you're that bad off, I'd try to make a backup of /home and /etc, and maybe try to get the list of packages that are installed (something like "dpkg --get-selections > MyPackageSet", but I never do it right), then do a clean install. Normally you don't need to reinstall Linux, but that might be the quickest, easiest fix. Also, as Ron mentions, it might be hardware-related, so I'd probably first run Knoppix on the box for half-an-hour or so to make sure things "feel" okay hardware-wise. -- Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Abiword in testing unusable
On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 20:25, Carl Fink wrote: > On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 08:19:16PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 19:25, Carl Fink wrote: > > > > > $ apt-cache policy abiword > > > > abiword: > > > > Installed: (none) > > > > Candidate: 2.0.0+cvs.2003.09.25-1.1 > > > > Version Table: > > > > 2.0.0+cvs.2003.09.25-1.1 0 > > > > 500 ftp://mirrors.kernel.org unstable/main Packages > > > What happens when you run 'apt-cache policy abiword' > > Same thing as you, as I quoted above. So what's apt-get trying to > install? Dunno. Show us the whole command + all messages. -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jefferson, LA USA 4 degrees from Vladimir Putin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Abiword in testing unusable
On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 08:19:16PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 19:25, Carl Fink wrote: > > > $ apt-cache policy abiword > > > abiword: > > > Installed: (none) > > > Candidate: 2.0.0+cvs.2003.09.25-1.1 > > > Version Table: > > > 2.0.0+cvs.2003.09.25-1.1 0 > > > 500 ftp://mirrors.kernel.org unstable/main Packages > What happens when you run 'apt-cache policy abiword' Same thing as you, as I quoted above. So what's apt-get trying to install? -- Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabootu's Minister of Proofreading http://www.jabootu.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"
On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 20:09, Paul Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 08:27:22PM +0100, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: > > OTOH: Yesterday I was told by Linux folks that the sound problems on > > Linux that I have from time to time might need a simple restart of the > > system. Which was a surprise for me as I thought this sort of "fix" > > is something I had left behind after moving to Linux ... > > The only times you need to reboot that I've experienced: 1) New kernel > you wanna try out. 2) Physical flaw in the hardware or internal > hardware needing a power cycle. 3) Power failure. Don't forget: kernel bug -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jefferson, LA USA "A C program is like a fast dance on a newly waxed dance floor by people carrying razors." Waldi Ravens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Abiword in testing unusable
On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 19:25, Carl Fink wrote: > On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 07:15:44PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > Hmmm. Have you done an 'apt-get update' lately? > > This afternoon. > > > $ apt-cache policy abiword > > abiword: > > Installed: (none) > > Candidate: 2.0.0+cvs.2003.09.25-1.1 > > Version Table: > > 2.0.0+cvs.2003.09.25-1.1 0 > > 500 ftp://mirrors.kernel.org unstable/main Packages > > I don't know how to interpret this. Are you saying it's not in > Testing? Then why do I get the messages I posted in my previous? That's what it looks like to me. For example: $ apt-cache policy smartmontools smartmontools: Installed: 5.1.18-1 Candidate: 5.1.18-2 Version Table: 5.1.18-2 0 500 ftp://mirrors.kernel.org unstable/main Packages *** 5.1.18-1 0 500 ftp://mirrors.kernel.org testing/main Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status What happens when you run 'apt-cache policy abiword' -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jefferson, LA USA Spit in one hand, and wish for peace in the other. Guess which is more effective... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kde under sid
On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 11:57, Debian User wrote: > I just upgraded from woody to sid. Gnome will start up fine, but kde > crashes instantly when started from the gdm login. I can use apt-get to > install kde components(i.e. konsole, kpackage) just fine. Is this a > known issue? What happens if you remove gdm and start X from the console using startx? -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jefferson, LA USA The difference between Rock&Roll and Country Music? Old Rockers still on tour are pathetic, but old Country singers are still great. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 08:27:22PM +0100, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: > OTOH: Yesterday I was told by Linux folks that the sound problems on > Linux that I have from time to time might need a simple restart of the > system. Which was a surprise for me as I thought this sort of "fix" > is something I had left behind after moving to Linux ... The only times you need to reboot that I've experienced: 1) New kernel you wanna try out. 2) Physical flaw in the hardware or internal hardware needing a power cycle. 3) Power failure. - -- .''`. Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' : `. `'` proud Debian admin and user `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fix a system -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/qv7AUzgNqloQMwcRAv+zAJ9qJcvWFUi7ZzJAQQH4IeqIKlGYcACfdxGh wI6gR+cQdMAJg6damcH93tI= =33i6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
efax - SOLVED
> I'm trying to use efax to receive faxes. I've read the man page and it > seems reasonably clear enough. > > However, I'm only able to get efax to work if I'm root. As an > individual user, this is what I get when I try to put the fax modem > into receive mode: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ efax -d /dev/ttyS0 > efax: Fri Nov 7 07:46:18 2003 efax v 0.9a-001114 Copyright 1999 Ed Casas > efax: Fri Nov 7 07:46:18 2003 efax v 0.9a-001114 Copyright 1999 Ed Casas > efax: 46:18 compiled Apr 7 2003 16:44:31 > efax: 46:18 Error: can't open serial port /dev/ttyS0: Permission denied > efax: 46:18 done, returning 2 (unrecoverable error) Thanks to those who replied. User bob was already a member of group dialout. However, the problem was that /dev/ttyS0 had permissions set to 600 - I had to reset this to 660 and then it worked. There was another problem, also now solved. I wanted to use the nice user-friendly front end to efax, which is efax-gtk. The problem is that efax always defaults to /dev/ttyS1, and my computer only has one serial port, /dev/ttyS0. You can override the default on the command line with the -d option, but no way to do that in the graphic mode. I solved this by moving /dev/ttyS1 to a bogus name, and created a symbolic link, as follows: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:mv /dev/ttyS1 /dev/ttyS1-x [EMAIL PROTECTED]:ln -s /dev/ttyS0 /dev/ttyS1 This is the result: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/dev# ls -l ttyS* crw-rw1 root dialout4, 64 Nov 7 09:37 ttyS0 lrwxrwxrwx1 root root 10 Nov 7 09:35 ttyS1 -> /dev/ttyS0 crw-rw1 root dialout4, 65 Jul 14 12:05 ttyS1-x crw-rw1 root dialout4, 66 Jul 14 12:05 ttyS2 crw-rw1 root dialout4, 67 Jul 14 12:05 ttyS3 crw-rw1 root dialout4, 68 Jul 14 12:06 ttyS4 crw-rw1 root dialout4, 69 Jul 14 12:06 ttyS5 crw-rw1 root dialout4, 70 Jul 14 12:06 ttyS6 crw-rw1 root dialout4, 71 Jul 14 12:06 ttyS7 crw-rw1 root dialout4, 72 Jul 14 12:06 ttyS8 And now it works. regards, Robert -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Voice dictation
On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 17:14:30 -0800, Bill Wohler wrote: > > Once upon a time, long, long, ago, I used ViaVoice from IBM to > do dictation. Pretty good stuff. > > Earlier this year I replaced my system; today I tried to > reinstall ViaVoice from the CD I had originally received from > IBM. No joy. It depends on some shared libraries that are long > gone. > > Since IBM no longer supports it, I think I just need to forget > about ViaVoice. > > Is anyone familiar with any other voice dictation programs for > Linux? Try "sphinx". I suspect it might not fall into your "pretty good" category. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
kde under sid
I just upgraded from woody to sid. Gnome will start up fine, but kde crashes instantly when started from the gdm login. I can use apt-get to install kde components(i.e. konsole, kpackage) just fine. Is this a known issue? Thanks, Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Exim4 - current spam setup
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 05:08:13PM -0800, Bill Moseley wrote: > A added a warn test for dsn and postmaster. Postmaster (and abuse) > wipes out yahoo.com. Unfortunatelly a lot of people have accounts > at yahoo. I reject on dsn, whois and ipwhois. - -- .''`. Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' : `. `'` proud Debian admin and user `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fix a system -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/qvR8UzgNqloQMwcRAljWAJ4sFVW+Edc3ofnBjxZSnbFjvH5kywCeLN1J 0MRtv5RHwct64M4QCv4Powc= =IqR+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Abiword in testing unusable
On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 07:15:44PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > Hmmm. Have you done an 'apt-get update' lately? This afternoon. > $ apt-cache policy abiword > abiword: > Installed: (none) > Candidate: 2.0.0+cvs.2003.09.25-1.1 > Version Table: > 2.0.0+cvs.2003.09.25-1.1 0 > 500 ftp://mirrors.kernel.org unstable/main Packages I don't know how to interpret this. Are you saying it's not in Testing? Then why do I get the messages I posted in my previous? -- Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabootu's Minister of Proofreading http://www.jabootu.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Abiword in testing unusable
On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 18:36, Carl Fink wrote: > It's impossible to install either abiword or abiword-GTK in the current > Testing. Abiword proper depends on > > libperl5.6 (>= 5.6.1-8.3) but 5.6.1-8.2 is to be installed > > and abiword-GTK depends on > > libpspell4 (>= 0.12.2-5) but it is not going to be installed > abiword-common (= 1.0.2+cvs.2002.06.05-1) but 2.0.0+cvs.2003.09.25-0jds1 > is to be installed > > I *use* abiword, dammit. Is it worth writing bug reports given the current > fluid state of Testing? Hmmm. Have you done an 'apt-get update' lately? My sources.list has both testing & unstable, but doesn't show that abiword is in testing. $ apt-cache policy abiword abiword: Installed: (none) Candidate: 2.0.0+cvs.2003.09.25-1.1 Version Table: 2.0.0+cvs.2003.09.25-1.1 0 500 ftp://mirrors.kernel.org unstable/main Packages -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jefferson, LA USA Some former UNSCOM officials are alarmed, however. Terry Taylor, a British senior UNSCOM inspector from 1993 to 1997, says the figure of 95 percent disarmament is "complete nonsense because inspectors never learned what 100 percent was. UNSCOM found a great deal and destroyed a great deal, but we knew [Iraq's] work was continuing while we were there, and I'm sure it continues," says Mr. Taylor, now head of the Washington http://www.csmonitor.com/2002/0829/p01s03-wosc.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"
- Original Message - From: "BruceG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Debian-User" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 7:53 PM Subject: Re: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers" > > - Original Message - > From: "Ron Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Debian-User" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 7:34 PM > Subject: Re: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers" > > > > On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 18:02, BruceG wrote: > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > From: David Millet > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Cc: Debian-User > > > Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 6:52 PM > > > Subject: Re: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers" > > > > > > > > all I have to say is that I personally want linux to rule > the desktop, > > > > > simply because I will stand to make alot of money when big > companies > > > > > start picking it up. a lot of us will, in fact. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not until Broderbund releases a Calendar Creator that works > with > > > > > Linux. Ditto for Reader Rabbit, Math Blaster, etc, etc, ad > nauseum. > > > > > > > > Or not until wine begins running these and every windoze app > > > that everyone uses flawlessly, which hopefully happens soon. > > > > > > david > > > > > > *** > > > > > > My experience with the wonderful world of Linux and end users > > > - or normal people. My sister needed a laptop to help her > > > start a new business writing grant proposals. I figured I'd > > > help by buying her a laptop (used, but still good, a Dell > > > Latitude PIII, 256Meg RAM, 12 Gig hard disk, CD-RW, external > > > floppy, Xircom 10/100+56 card. I tested Mandrake 9.1, SuSE 8.2 > > > Personal and Knoppix installed to harddisk. Decided to ship it > > > with SuSE with all updates done, and with OOo 1.1.0 and > > > Scribus 1.0.1. Paid for Internet access, and configured dial > > > on demand. Also configured KMail,Evolution, Mozilla Mail and > > > KNode. > > > > > > She called today. Had a problem with it (trouble-shooting was > > > turn it upside down and shake it). Brought it to computer > > > repair shop. He installed non-licensed Windows and MS Office. > > > I'm discouraged. It truely was 'point 'n click'. Everything > > > was installed, tested and working. Literally plug it in, turn > > > it on, connect the included phone cord and your online. Just > > > click the Seagull and you have a choice of OOo1.0.2 or > > > OOo1.1.0. > > > > > > Think I want my SuSE 8.2 Personal boxed set, SuSE Live Eval > > > CD, and boot floppy back! But on the good side, my 7 year old > > > son and 14 year old son are perfectly comfortable with SuSE, > > > Mandrake and RedHat. Maybe Debian in a while. > > > > Complain to the store's owner that his employees overwrote your > > data, and demand compensation. Contact the BSA, and tell them > > about the unlicensed Windows. (You reinstalled SuSE, right?) > > > > No, I'm a 12 hour drive away from her - so it is back into the Windows > world. > I just don't understand installing pirated software. Not when better > software is > available free or at a reasonable cost. SuSE boxed set only cost $40. OOo is > free, > and available on just about any platform. With project Fedora and Debian > people > have a choice of some great truely free systems. To me it's well worth the > time it > takes to learn something new. Let's say you buy a licensed version of > Windows > and a licensed version of MSOffice. To my way of thinking - if you can learn > the > basics of a new system in 20-30 hours, you're way ahead of the game. > > At least she found the value of the laptop from the computer shop and > thanked > me for it. That's on the plus side. > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > I HATE the way posts look from Outlook Express. Argh! Just wrapping up one more job, then back to Linux-land. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Exim4 - current spam setup
On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 09:39:15PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 02:30:12PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > 2) What RBL entries (dnslists) are you using in Exim4's ACL list? > > bl.spamcop.net, and a couple of ones from rfc-ignorant.org to weed out > some of the fishy sources. Which ones from rfc-ignorant.org? A added a warn test for dsn and postmaster. Postmaster (and abuse) wipes out yahoo.com. Unfortunatelly a lot of people have accounts at yahoo. -- Bill Moseley [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 3Com Gigabit Server NIC Product #: 3C996B-T
On 2003-11-06T16:28:58-0600, Dale Schroeder wrote: > Does the linux driver that comes with this NIC work straight out of the > box on Woody? Aka Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5701. Not sure what you use in woody or which modules are installed, but the card works like a charm with the tg3 driver of 2.4.20. I do recall having any issues with either bcm5700-2.0.28 and 5.0.5 from 3com either. /Allan -- Allan Wind P.O. Box 2022 Woburn, MA 01888-0022 USA signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"
- Original Message - From: "Ron Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Debian-User" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 7:34 PM Subject: Re: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers" > On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 18:02, BruceG wrote: > > > > - Original Message - > > From: David Millet > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Cc: Debian-User > > Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 6:52 PM > > Subject: Re: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers" > > > > > > all I have to say is that I personally want linux to rule the desktop, > > > > simply because I will stand to make alot of money when big companies > > > > start picking it up. a lot of us will, in fact. > > > > > > > > > > > > Not until Broderbund releases a Calendar Creator that works with > > > > Linux. Ditto for Reader Rabbit, Math Blaster, etc, etc, ad nauseum. > > > > > > Or not until wine begins running these and every windoze app > > that everyone uses flawlessly, which hopefully happens soon. > > > > david > > > > *** > > > > My experience with the wonderful world of Linux and end users > > - or normal people. My sister needed a laptop to help her > > start a new business writing grant proposals. I figured I'd > > help by buying her a laptop (used, but still good, a Dell > > Latitude PIII, 256Meg RAM, 12 Gig hard disk, CD-RW, external > > floppy, Xircom 10/100+56 card. I tested Mandrake 9.1, SuSE 8.2 > > Personal and Knoppix installed to harddisk. Decided to ship it > > with SuSE with all updates done, and with OOo 1.1.0 and > > Scribus 1.0.1. Paid for Internet access, and configured dial > > on demand. Also configured KMail,Evolution, Mozilla Mail and > > KNode. > > > > She called today. Had a problem with it (trouble-shooting was > > turn it upside down and shake it). Brought it to computer > > repair shop. He installed non-licensed Windows and MS Office. > > I'm discouraged. It truely was 'point 'n click'. Everything > > was installed, tested and working. Literally plug it in, turn > > it on, connect the included phone cord and your online. Just > > click the Seagull and you have a choice of OOo1.0.2 or > > OOo1.1.0. > > > > Think I want my SuSE 8.2 Personal boxed set, SuSE Live Eval > > CD, and boot floppy back! But on the good side, my 7 year old > > son and 14 year old son are perfectly comfortable with SuSE, > > Mandrake and RedHat. Maybe Debian in a while. > > Complain to the store's owner that his employees overwrote your > data, and demand compensation. Contact the BSA, and tell them > about the unlicensed Windows. (You reinstalled SuSE, right?) > No, I'm a 12 hour drive away from her - so it is back into the Windows world. I just don't understand installing pirated software. Not when better software is available free or at a reasonable cost. SuSE boxed set only cost $40. OOo is free, and available on just about any platform. With project Fedora and Debian people have a choice of some great truely free systems. To me it's well worth the time it takes to learn something new. Let's say you buy a licensed version of Windows and a licensed version of MSOffice. To my way of thinking - if you can learn the basics of a new system in 20-30 hours, you're way ahead of the game. At least she found the value of the laptop from the computer shop and thanked me for it. That's on the plus side. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: heres my noob install questions, smart people please help
On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 04:32:33PM -0800, Mark Ferlatte wrote: > David Millet said on Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 05:25:24PM -0700: > > 4) once i get debian up and running, i want to set it up to where > > the second partition on hda, my win2000 fat32 drive, is mounted as > > my home directory as a user. in other words, i want one of my fat32 > > partitions mounted at /home/david/ after i create the david user > > account. can that be done? > > Yes, but I wouldn't recommend it. The FAT filesystem semantics aren't > the same as Unix, and it's not a very good filesystem anyway. I would > leave your Unix homedir on a Unix filesystem, and mount the fat32 > partition somewhere else. > > If, however, you wanted to do this, you could by putting > > /dev/hda2 /home/david vfatdefaults 0 0 > > in your /etc/fstab. You may also run into some problems regarding permissions. Some applications specifically check the permissions on the user configuration data files and I'm not sure if these applications will work with the data files residing on a FAT32 partition. As Mark has suggested you'd be better off mounting the FAT32 partition elsewhere. -- Jamin W. Collins -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Going to give it another shot-need more help
On Thu, 6 Nov 2003 13:09:24 -0500, ScruLoose wrote: First off. I am doing this because none of the kernels on the cds support my nic. Consequently, any suggestions that involve using apt-get show that the suggestor is a moron who doesn't pay attention. Also, my X isn't working either so the same applies to people who suggest using some X program to fix the problem. Buying another nic card isn't an option either. Experience has shown that I'm going to have to include the above in every post. I've decided to roll my own (this is hacker shit that an ordinary user should never have to even think about) becasue none of the precompiled kernels match what I have very well. I've managed to get the tarball for 2.4.22 which is what kernel.org says is the latest stable one. I need instructions. Someone suggested: >Also check out "The Very Verbose Guide to Updating and Compiling Your >Debian Kernel" > http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=2949 Which was close but unfortunately is apt-get and X dependent. Is there a site that has instructions in comparable depth that only depend on console apps? Mark Healey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Giving debian a chance. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"
Complain to the store's owner that his employees overwrote your data, and demand compensation. Contact the BSA, and tell them about the unlicensed Windows. hell ya! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: heres my noob install questions, smart people please help
hey thanx so much for your help, just one quick question Yes, but I wouldn't recommend it. The FAT filesystem semantics aren't the same as Unix, and it's not a very good filesystem anyway. I would leave your Unix homedir on a Unix filesystem, and mount the fat32 partition somewhere else. i want to easily be able to share certain files between windoze and linux, for example .fla macromedia flash files, flash has issues under wine so i'd prefer to boot into windoze when i need to use flash and i thought it would be easiest to just mount that windoze logical drive as my /home/david drive, would you suggest something else? obviously i cant format that windows partition with a non-bill-gates-approved filesystem, so i guess i could mount it to /home/david/windozefiles or something like that. if i were to mount it to /home/david would linux corrupt the fat32 or something? david -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: exim .forward - mail in mbox format, not Mailbox format
- Original Message - From: "Ron Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Debian-User" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 7:30 PM Subject: Re: exim .forward - mail in mbox format, not Mailbox format > On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 18:11, BruceG wrote: > > - Original Message - > > From: "BruceG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "Debian-User" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 6:04 PM > > Subject: exim .forward - mail in mbox format, not Mailbox format > > > > > > > Hey all, > > >[snip] > > > > Outlook Express doesn't seem to recognize it, and just lumps stuff together > > in my inbox - but the server shows them in the correct locations. Think I'll > > try Evolution to see if it behaves differently. > > If the emails are dropped in, for example, Maildir.ALE, how can, > OE think they are in INBOX? > > Evo works fine. My wife and I are using using courier-imap, and > if mail comes in when Evo is running, sometimes you'll see it > appear in the sub-folder. Other times, "Send/Receive" will make > it show up. Note, though, that I use "maildrop" as filter, not > exim. > It's confusing to say the least. But I know they are in /Maildir.ALE, I jumped onthe console and went to that directory and there the messages were in all their IMAP glory. I went into OE and clicked on IMAP Folders, Reset List - and can see the ALE and Fedora lists. So OE sees them as well. Time to boot out of Win2K and into RH9.0 to see what it looks like (work laptop, dual-boot. office "allows" RH9.0 and Win2K). It's time for ClamAV and Amavisd-new. Don't know if that will make my old PC roll over, but will give it a shot. I want AntiVir running before giving out e-mail addrs. to the family (running WinXP, Win98 and SuSE 8.2). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Abiword in testing unusable
It's impossible to install either abiword or abiword-GTK in the current Testing. Abiword proper depends on libperl5.6 (>= 5.6.1-8.3) but 5.6.1-8.2 is to be installed and abiword-GTK depends on libpspell4 (>= 0.12.2-5) but it is not going to be installed abiword-common (= 1.0.2+cvs.2002.06.05-1) but 2.0.0+cvs.2003.09.25-0jds1 is to be installed I *use* abiword, dammit. Is it worth writing bug reports given the current fluid state of Testing? -- Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabootu's Minister of Proofreading http://www.jabootu.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"
On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 18:02, BruceG wrote: > > - Original Message - > From: David Millet > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: Debian-User > Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 6:52 PM > Subject: Re: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers" > > > > all I have to say is that I personally want linux to rule the desktop, > > > simply because I will stand to make alot of money when big companies > > > start picking it up. a lot of us will, in fact. > > > > > > > > > Not until Broderbund releases a Calendar Creator that works with > > > Linux. Ditto for Reader Rabbit, Math Blaster, etc, etc, ad nauseum. > > > > Or not until wine begins running these and every windoze app > that everyone uses flawlessly, which hopefully happens soon. > > david > > *** > > My experience with the wonderful world of Linux and end users > - or normal people. My sister needed a laptop to help her > start a new business writing grant proposals. I figured I'd > help by buying her a laptop (used, but still good, a Dell > Latitude PIII, 256Meg RAM, 12 Gig hard disk, CD-RW, external > floppy, Xircom 10/100+56 card. I tested Mandrake 9.1, SuSE 8.2 > Personal and Knoppix installed to harddisk. Decided to ship it > with SuSE with all updates done, and with OOo 1.1.0 and > Scribus 1.0.1. Paid for Internet access, and configured dial > on demand. Also configured KMail,Evolution, Mozilla Mail and > KNode. > > She called today. Had a problem with it (trouble-shooting was > turn it upside down and shake it). Brought it to computer > repair shop. He installed non-licensed Windows and MS Office. > I'm discouraged. It truely was 'point 'n click'. Everything > was installed, tested and working. Literally plug it in, turn > it on, connect the included phone cord and your online. Just > click the Seagull and you have a choice of OOo1.0.2 or > OOo1.1.0. > > Think I want my SuSE 8.2 Personal boxed set, SuSE Live Eval > CD, and boot floppy back! But on the good side, my 7 year old > son and 14 year old son are perfectly comfortable with SuSE, > Mandrake and RedHat. Maybe Debian in a while. Complain to the store's owner that his employees overwrote your data, and demand compensation. Contact the BSA, and tell them about the unlicensed Windows. (You reinstalled SuSE, right?) -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jefferson, LA USA "You ask us the same question every day, and we give you the same answer every day. Someday, we hope that you will believe us..." U.S. Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, to a reporter -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: heres my noob install questions, smart people please help
David Millet said on Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 05:25:24PM -0700: > 1) are these instructions > http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/install the best for a noob > like me or are there some better ones out there somewhere? They are probably best. > 2) i have 2 harddrives, hda and hdb, hda has win2000 on it, its divided > into 3 fat32 partitions, hdb has an old install of mandrake on it, i > want to put debian on hdb, is the filesystem manager on the install cds > comprehensible enough to where i'll be able to format the partitions on > hdb without messing up hda? all my important data is on hda, so if > something happens to hda i'm screwed Then, if I were you, I would back up hda before doing anything. Mistakes can happen. That being said, you shouldn't have any trouble installing onto hdb; I have done it before. > 3) i see that lilo is the default bootloader, i know that if i put the > windows lines in lilo.conf and i run /sbin/lilo it should let me choose > between booting into windows or linux when i restart, are there any > hangups or problems i need to look out for? i have some experience > editing the lilo.conf file with good success in mandrake... Nothing that I'm aware of; it's always worked well for me. You no longer need to make the 10MB /boot partition. > 4) once i get debian up and running, i want to set it up to where the > second partition on hda, my win2000 fat32 drive, is mounted as my home > directory as a user. in other words, i want one of my fat32 partitions > mounted at /home/david/ after i create the david user account. can that > be done? Yes, but I wouldn't recommend it. The FAT filesystem semantics aren't the same as Unix, and it's not a very good filesystem anyway. I would leave your Unix homedir on a Unix filesystem, and mount the fat32 partition somewhere else. If, however, you wanted to do this, you could by putting /dev/hda2 /home/david vfatdefaults 0 0 in your /etc/fstab. > thanx in advance for the help. i'm really excited about debian. Good luck. M pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: exim .forward - mail in mbox format, not Mailbox format
On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 18:11, BruceG wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "BruceG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Debian-User" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 6:04 PM > Subject: exim .forward - mail in mbox format, not Mailbox format > > > > Hey all, > >[snip] > > Outlook Express doesn't seem to recognize it, and just lumps stuff together > in my inbox - but the server shows them in the correct locations. Think I'll > try Evolution to see if it behaves differently. If the emails are dropped in, for example, Maildir.ALE, how can, OE think they are in INBOX? Evo works fine. My wife and I are using using courier-imap, and if mail comes in when Evo is running, sometimes you'll see it appear in the sub-folder. Other times, "Send/Receive" will make it show up. Note, though, that I use "maildrop" as filter, not exim. -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jefferson, LA USA "(Women are) like compilers. They take simple statements and make them into big productions." Pitr Dubovitch -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"
My experience with the wonderful world of Linux and end users - or normal people. My sister needed a laptop to help her start a new business writing grant proposals. I figured I'd help by buying her a laptop (used, but still good, a Dell Latitude PIII, 256Meg RAM, 12 Gig hard disk, CD-RW, external floppy, Xircom 10/100+56 card. I tested Mandrake 9.1, SuSE 8.2 Personal and Knoppix installed to harddisk. Decided to ship it with SuSE with all updates done, and with OOo 1.1.0 and Scribus 1.0.1. Paid for Internet access, and configured dial on demand. Also configured KMail,Evolution, Mozilla Mail and KNode. She called today. Had a problem with it (trouble-shooting was turn it upside down and shake it). Brought it to computer repair shop. He installed non-licensed Windows and MS Office. I'm discouraged. It truely was 'point 'n click'. Everything was installed, tested and working. Literally plug it in, turn it on, connect the included phone cord and your online. Just click the Seagull and you have a choice of OOo1.0.2 or OOo1.1.0. Think I want my SuSE 8.2 Personal boxed set, SuSE Live Eval CD, and boot floppy back! But on the good side, my 7 year old son and 14 year old son are perfectly comfortable with SuSE, Mandrake and RedHat. Maybe Debian in a while. Thats too bad about your sister. I can't get my wife to use Linux either. Linux desktop domination needs a few years yet. I'm thinking it will happen pretty soon and I can't wait. I try to tell everyone about Linux when I get the chance. I'm like a missionary for Linux. I love this crap. david -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
heres my noob install questions, smart people please help
ok so i've been doing this linux desktop thing for about a year now, started with redhat, then went to mandrake, now i want to move on to debian, i'm still a noob so i've been reading up on the install instructions on http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/install but before i got started i wanted to ask you all a few questions: 1) are these instructions http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/install the best for a noob like me or are there some better ones out there somewhere? 2) i have 2 harddrives, hda and hdb, hda has win2000 on it, its divided into 3 fat32 partitions, hdb has an old install of mandrake on it, i want to put debian on hdb, is the filesystem manager on the install cds comprehensible enough to where i'll be able to format the partitions on hdb without messing up hda? all my important data is on hda, so if something happens to hda i'm screwed 3) i see that lilo is the default bootloader, i know that if i put the windows lines in lilo.conf and i run /sbin/lilo it should let me choose between booting into windows or linux when i restart, are there any hangups or problems i need to look out for? i have some experience editing the lilo.conf file with good success in mandrake... 4) once i get debian up and running, i want to set it up to where the second partition on hda, my win2000 fat32 drive, is mounted as my home directory as a user. in other words, i want one of my fat32 partitions mounted at /home/david/ after i create the david user account. can that be done? thanx in advance for the help. i'm really excited about debian. david -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: exim .forward - mail in mbox format, not Mailbox format
- Original Message - From: "BruceG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Debian-User" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 6:04 PM Subject: exim .forward - mail in mbox format, not Mailbox format > Hey all, > >Been playing with a .forward file for Exim, but am missing something in > it's interaction with Courier. I created a .forward file in my home > directory and did the "chmod go-wx .forward". > >When I do a fetchmail, I see the new messages going in the right > directory, but rather than a different file per message like Courier does, I > get a large file with multiple messages in mbox format. It's kinda half-way > there. > >How do I specify the mailbox format? How do I make sure it's in mailbox > format so my IMAP reader can read it? OE isn't seeing the new folders being > created. > > My .forward is here for your amusement: > # Exim filter > # Handle mailing lists > > if $h_to: contains "fedora" > then save Maildir/Fedora/ > > elif $h_to: contains [EMAIL PROTECTED] > then save Maildir/ALE/ > > elif $h_to: contains "squirrelmail" > then save Maildir/Squirrelmail/ > > elif $h_to: contains "madwifi" > then save Maildir/madwifi/ > > endif > > # If you didn't enable site wide Maildir > # your users will need to have this catch all > # entry, or it'll end up in MBox format. > # > save Maildir/ > > # Done > -- > > Also - I did not create the ALE, Fedora, or Squirrelmail folders. I let them > be created during mail processing. > > Another RTFM for me. Urgh! I deleted the newly created mbox format folders, then edited my .forward file. I had to put in an ending / on each directory name. Stuff is going in the right directories in the right format. Outlook Express doesn't seem to recognize it, and just lumps stuff together in my inbox - but the server shows them in the correct locations. Think I'll try Evolution to see if it behaves differently. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problem unravaling mixed system
Colin Watson wrote: > > strace -o /tmp/trace dpkg -i doc-linux-text_2003.10-1_all.deb > > > > and attach output. There are some errors at the end but I am afraid > > this is way beyond my level of expertise (this is actualy the first time > > I have used strace). > [...] > > write(8, "\37\213\10\10]\307u?\2\3Encrypted-Root-Filesys"..., 4302) = -1 ENOSPC > > (No space left on device) > > Yup, ENOSPC == out of disk space, as you said in a separate mail. > > By the way, please keep all e-mails on the list; others may be > interested in helping and I don't always have time to see a problem > through from beginning to end. I have also seen dpkg segfault when out of space during d-i install testing. -- see shy jo signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: efax
Robert Story <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Dear All, > > I'm trying to use efax to receive faxes. I've read the man page and it seems > reasonably clear enough. > > However, I'm only able to get efax to work if I'm root. As an individual user, this > is what I get when I try to put the fax modem into receive mode: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ efax -d /dev/ttyS0 > efax: Fri Nov 7 07:46:18 2003 efax v 0.9a-001114 Copyright 1999 Ed Casas > efax: Fri Nov 7 07:46:18 2003 efax v 0.9a-001114 Copyright 1999 Ed Casas > efax: 46:18 compiled Apr 7 2003 16:44:31 > efax: 46:18 Error: can't open serial port /dev/ttyS0: Permission denied > efax: 46:18 done, returning 2 (unrecoverable error) > > I added user "bob" to the group "fax" but that doesn't solve the problem. Hoping > that someone has a suggestion. Add him to group "dialout" > > regards, > Robert > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- Andres Roldan Fluidsignal Group <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The Debian Project <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> GPG Key-ID: 0xB29396EB Home Page http://people.fluidsignal.com/~aroldan pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Faked Browser with Mozilla Firebird
On (06/11/03 16:48), Kent West wrote: > Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2003 16:48:50 -0600 > From: Kent West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Faked Browser with Mozilla Firebird > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Clive Menzies wrote: > > >I'm intrigued. why would you want to [make Firebird/Mozilla look > >like IE to websites]? I understand Opera does it because MS had > >found a way to lock them out of certain sites. Is this also a problem > >for Mozilla? > > It's not that MS had found a way to lock out Opera; it's that > lazy/sloppy web designers tend to code their pages to IE and to a lesser > extent Netscape. Mozilla, _being_ Netscape, had fewer problems than > Opera, but there are still times you bump up against incompetent web > designers. Thanks Kent Apologies for the "loose" language, I couldn't remember exactly what the issue was. It makes sense now ;) Regards Clive -- http://www.clivemenzies.co.uk strategies for business -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"
- Original Message - From: David Millet To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Debian-User Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 6:52 PM Subject: Re: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers" all I have to say is that I personally want linux to rule the desktop, simply because I will stand to make alot of money when big companies start picking it up. a lot of us will, in fact. Not until Broderbund releases a Calendar Creator that works with Linux. Ditto for Reader Rabbit, Math Blaster, etc, etc, ad nauseum. Or not until wine begins running these and every windoze app that everyone uses flawlessly, which hopefully happens soon.david *** My experience with the wonderful world of Linux and end users - or normal people. My sister needed a laptop to help her start a new business writing grant proposals. I figured I'd help by buying her a laptop (used, but still good, a Dell Latitude PIII, 256Meg RAM, 12 Gig hard disk, CD-RW, external floppy, Xircom 10/100+56 card. I tested Mandrake 9.1, SuSE 8.2 Personal and Knoppix installed to harddisk. Decided to ship it with SuSE with all updates done, and with OOo 1.1.0 and Scribus 1.0.1. Paid for Internet access, and configured dial on demand. Also configured KMail,Evolution, Mozilla Mail and KNode. She called today. Had a problem with it (trouble-shooting was turn it upside down and shake it). Brought it to computer repair shop. He installed non-licensed Windows and MS Office. I'm discouraged. It truely was 'point 'n click'. Everything was installed, tested and working. Literally plug it in, turn it on, connect the included phone cord and your online. Just click the Seagull and you have a choice of OOo1.0.2 or OOo1.1.0. Think I want my SuSE 8.2 Personal boxed set, SuSE Live Eval CD, and boot floppy back! But on the good side, my 7 year old son and 14 year old son are perfectly comfortable with SuSE, Mandrake and RedHat. Maybe Debian in a while.
Re: efax
On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 17:49, Robert Story wrote: > Dear All, > > I'm trying to use efax to receive faxes. I've read the man page > and it seems reasonably clear enough. > > However, I'm only able to get efax to work if I'm root. As an > individual user, this is what I get when I try to put the fax > modem into receive mode: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ efax -d /dev/ttyS0 > efax: Fri Nov 7 07:46:18 2003 efax v 0.9a-001114 Copyright 1999 Ed Casas > efax: Fri Nov 7 07:46:18 2003 efax v 0.9a-001114 Copyright 1999 Ed Casas > efax: 46:18 compiled Apr 7 2003 16:44:31 > efax: 46:18 Error: can't open serial port /dev/ttyS0: Permission denied > efax: 46:18 done, returning 2 (unrecoverable error) > > I added user "bob" to the group "fax" but that doesn't solve > the problem. Hoping that someone has a suggestion. What does 'ls -aFl /dev/ttyS0' look like? Were you still logged in as bob when you added bob to fax? -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jefferson, LA USA "Those who would give up essential Liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither Liberty nor safety." or something like that Ben Franklin, maybe -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
efax
Dear All, I'm trying to use efax to receive faxes. I've read the man page and it seems reasonably clear enough. However, I'm only able to get efax to work if I'm root. As an individual user, this is what I get when I try to put the fax modem into receive mode: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ efax -d /dev/ttyS0 efax: Fri Nov 7 07:46:18 2003 efax v 0.9a-001114 Copyright 1999 Ed Casas efax: Fri Nov 7 07:46:18 2003 efax v 0.9a-001114 Copyright 1999 Ed Casas efax: 46:18 compiled Apr 7 2003 16:44:31 efax: 46:18 Error: can't open serial port /dev/ttyS0: Permission denied efax: 46:18 done, returning 2 (unrecoverable error) I added user "bob" to the group "fax" but that doesn't solve the problem. Hoping that someone has a suggestion. regards, Robert -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"
all I have to say is that I personally want linux to rule the desktop, simply because I will stand to make alot of money when big companies start picking it up. a lot of us will, in fact. i'm extremely confident that it will rule the desktop market, because of the speed at which the desktops have improved, which i have been lucky to observe during the past year i've been doing the linux thing. i've seen major improvements, unlike how windows upgrades their operating systems these days. i use winXP at work and haven't seen yet too much of an improvement from win2000. i agree with that guy from red hat. give kde, gnome, etc a few more years to mature and it will be night-night time for the M$ monopoly. Not until Broderbund releases a Calendar Creator that works with Linux. Ditto for Reader Rabbit, Math Blaster, etc, etc, ad nauseum. Or not until wine begins running these and every windoze app that everyone uses flawlessly, which hopefully happens soon. david
Re: Help!
On (06/11/03 17:32), Ken Gilmour wrote: > Do you work in sales or something? > > > Replying to the message sent by David Palmer. ?on Thu, 6 Nov 2003 14:02:34 +0800, > received at 17:32:09 on 06/11/2003. David Palmer. wrote: > > >Stick with it! > >Some kind person is trying to save you. > >Now, the first thing we have to do is stop that thing you are employing > >as a mail client from polluting the internet any more than it has done > >already, and to do that we need to stop that piece of filth under it > >from taking up any space on what is potentially a good hard drive. > > > >Do a Google search on Debian.org and you will find screeds of > >information that will assist you in the direction of actually enjoying > >life, rather than feeling this overwhelming therapeutic desire to smash > >your monitor through the wall. > >If you want to leave a mailing list, Debian will actually allow you to > >do it. > >Once you have installed Debian, come back here and talk to us. We like > >people that have good operating systems. > >Regards, > > > >David. Hehe! Yes he is and will receive no reward other than having converted someone to Debian and showing them better alternative to Windows ;) Good luck Clive -- http://www.clivemenzies.co.uk strategies for business -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cannot install, upgrade, remove, etc.
On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 16:53, Papadopoulos Alexis wrote: > Installing is impossible, whatever I do I mustn't need dpkg, it doesn't > work. Now as for the copying files from somewhere else solution, it would > be great but I have 2 problems : > 1) I don't know where I could get those files > 2) even if I did, as I said before if I try to replace one of the broken > files, my system immediatly reboots (now I know why) > > Actually the more I'm thinking it, the more I feel in a dead-end... I'd check for a h/w problem. -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jefferson, LA USA Thanks to the good people in Microsoft, a great deal of the data that flows is dependent on one company. That is not a healthy ecosystem. The issue is that creativity gets filtered through the business plan of one company. Mitchell Baker, "Chief Lizard Wrangler" at Mozilla -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: lilo+ext3 guru needed...
hi ya schrieb try the following options in /etc/fstab ( at least none of my boxes has any lilo/grub boot problems into ext3 ( or i havent noticed any funky stuff going on /dev/hda1/ ext3defaults 1 1 ( hda7 in your case ) c ya alvin On Thu, 6 Nov 2003, Dennis Stosberg wrote: > Am 06.11.2003 um 18:03 schrieb LeVA: > > > So it seems I can not use data=journal with my root partition. I have to > > edit /etc/fstab , and change /dev/hda7 ...,data=ordered, if I want > > to start my system. > > Is this normal? I don't think so... Anybody knows the cure for this > > problem? Is there a way to specify some mount options to lilo, so I can > > put data=journal, and lilo mounts the root partition with journal data > > mode. Or do I have to use another boot manager (grub?) instead of lilo, > > to use data=journal with my root partition? > > Have you tried the "rootflags" boot option? With that option you > should be able to pass mount options for the root file system to the > kernel: > > rootflags=data=journal > > Does this work? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Lynx vs xli
On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 09:27:02PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [Snip question about XFConfig-4 and modelines] > According to what I've found in Google, bug 4918 has been fixed for > years. But I can't get Lynx to recognize either XLOADIMAGE_COMMAND or > VIEWER to change from ImageMagick to xli as the viewer. I've checked > /etc/mime.types to verify that it's set correctly. I've made sure that > Lynx is reading the correct config file. I don't know what to do next. You should be able to achieve this by altering either /etc/mailcap or $HOME/.mailcap and this is stated in /etc/lynx.cfg. Create .mailcap in your home directory if it does not exist and add to it the line: image/jpeg; xli '%s'; test=test -n "$DISPLAY" Brian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: lilo 22.5.8-4
When lilo finds the field bitmap= on lilo.conf, it assumes "install=bmp". The syntaxis "install=/boot/*.b" is now deprecated as LILO has put together all those *.b files into its binary. You can even remove that install= line or, for avoiding problems, just put install=bmp and all will work fine. Regards. Robin Gerard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hello, > > I installed lilo 225.8-4 in my box and I added in lilo.conf: > > bitmap=/usr/share/lilo/contrib/sid.bmp > bmp-color=1,,0,2,,0 > bmp-table=120p,173p,1,15,17 > bmp-timer=254p,432p,1,0,0 > install=/boot/boot-map.b > > afterward I ran /sbin/lilo and when I rebooted I saw the nice picture sid.bmp, > but there is not file boot-map.b in /boot, however when I ran /sbin/lilo > there was not: > error: /boot/boot-map.b no such file or directory. > > Can I delete the line install=/boot/boot-map.b safely ? > > TIA > -- > Gerard > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- Andres Roldan Fluidsignal Group <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The Debian Project <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> GPG Key-ID: 0xB29396EB Home Page http://people.fluidsignal.com/~aroldan pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Faked Browser with Mozilla Firebird
On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 10:21:45PM +, Clive Menzies wrote: > On (06/11/03 17:35), Joseph Jones wrote: > > > > Lukas Ruf wrote: > > > > >Dear all, > > > > > >is there any way to make Mozilla Firebird send a faked browser > > >identification to the server? I would like it to send for some sites > > >the MSIE identification, while for others Netscape 4.7. > > > > > >Can I do this with Mozilla Firebird? And how? > > > > > >Thanks for any help! > > > > > >wbr, > > >Lukas > > > > > > > > Try out this little extension: http://prefbar.mozdev.org/ > > > > It adds an optional toolbar to Firebird that, amongst other things, > > allows you to select a spooked user agent. > > > > Joe > OK Guys ;) > > I'm intrigued. why would you want to do this? I understand Opera > does it because MS had found a way to lock them out of certain sites. > Is this also a problem for Mozilla? > > Regards > Some sites, particularly banks and other financial businesses, don't want the business of non-M$ people. Its rather like the way they used to treat people of color. -- Paul E Condon [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
exim .forward - mail in mbox format, not Mailbox format
Hey all, Been playing with a .forward file for Exim, but am missing something in it's interaction with Courier. I created a .forward file in my home directory and did the "chmod go-wx .forward". When I do a fetchmail, I see the new messages going in the right directory, but rather than a different file per message like Courier does, I get a large file with multiple messages in mbox format. It's kinda half-way there. How do I specify the mailbox format? How do I make sure it's in mailbox format so my IMAP reader can read it? OE isn't seeing the new folders being created. My .forward is here for your amusement: # Exim filter # Handle mailing lists if $h_to: contains "fedora" then save Maildir/Fedora/ elif $h_to: contains [EMAIL PROTECTED] then save Maildir/ALE/ elif $h_to: contains "squirrelmail" then save Maildir/Squirrelmail/ elif $h_to: contains "madwifi" then save Maildir/madwifi/ endif # If you didn't enable site wide Maildir # your users will need to have this catch all # entry, or it'll end up in MBox format. # save Maildir/ # Done -- Also - I did not create the ALE, Fedora, or Squirrelmail folders. I let them be created during mail processing. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ssh-agent
Hello all, Forgive me if this is cretinous beyond compare, but I am confused. I am on a standalone machine, and never use SSH, and yet there is an SSH-agent in my /tmp. Is this normal? I have tried to put my mind at rest by reading the man pages, but couldn't convince myself that the thing should be on my machine at all. I've also googled some, but am nervous of spending too much time online if I might have a problem. Reassurance would be much appreciated. Cheers, Geoff -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cannot install, upgrade, remove, etc.
Installing is impossible, whatever I do I mustn't need dpkg, it doesn't work. Now as for the copying files from somewhere else solution, it would be great but I have 2 problems : 1) I don't know where I could get those files 2) even if I did, as I said before if I try to replace one of the broken files, my system immediatly reboots (now I know why) Actually the more I'm thinking it, the more I feel in a dead-end... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Buildin Soun Card: How?
Phillipus Gunawan wrote: G'day, I am having trouble to listen to any song song from my woody. I have a Celeron 400 with everything_build_in_features, one of them is sound card. Is there any good doc that I can read to configure the sound card? I've tried googling around, and all I can find are PCI_sloted_sound_card. This is my last conf of /etc/alsa/modutils/0.9: # ALSA alias char-major-116 snd alias snd-card-0 snd-intel8x0 # OSS/Free alias char-major-14 soundcore alias sound-slot-0snd-card-0 # Soundcard alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss options snd snd_major=116 snd_cards_limit=1 snd_device_mode=0666 snd_device_gid=29 snd_device_uid=0 options snd-card-intel8x0 snd_index=0 snd_id=CARD_0 snd_pbk_frame_size=128 snd_cap_frame_size=128 snd_mic_frame_size=128 But I always got an error saying "Intel ICH Sound Card not found or device busy Intel8x0-failed" I am a newbiez in debian, hopping I can learn more in this forum. Best Regards, What kernel are you running? If it's a 2.2 kernel, you might seriously consider moving up to a 2.4 version. IIRC, support for the i810 chipset was mostly non-existent in 2.2. -- Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Separate /home drive?
On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 16:20, David Palmer. wrote: > On Thu, 06 Nov 2003 15:38:06 -0600 > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 15:24, David Palmer. wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > > > I've been reading different partitioning howtos but can't find any > > > reference to a situation I thought I would like to install. > > > It's probably a newbie idea, but I wondered if it would be possible > > > to have system partitions on one drive, and posting to /home on > > > another. If it is possible, does anybody have a reference they could > > > point me to? > > > > Sure, why not? > > > I'm aware that there is a standard cross balance/reference configuration > from server box to server box to copy information from one to the other > in case of server failure. Is it possible to employ the same or similar > mechanism to copy from drive to drive within the PC environment, or is > this only possible by way of a periodic backup procedure, perhaps > through cron, anacron, or another utility? > I'm looking at maintaining a copy of the /home drive in the above > configuration in the case of drive failure. I can always boot into > system partitions with a rescue disc, but I want to be able to preserve > the info on /home. I think I'd do nightly rsync's or tars. Directing it to an external firewire disk that you can umount and take with you would be great. -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jefferson, LA USA LUKE: Is Perl better than Python? YODA: No... no... no. Quicker, easier, more seductive. LUKE: But how will I know why Python is better than Perl? YODA: You will know. When your code you try to read six months from now. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Faked Browser with Mozilla Firebird
Clive Menzies wrote: I'm intrigued. why would you want to [make Firebird/Mozilla look like IE to websites]? I understand Opera does it because MS had found a way to lock them out of certain sites. Is this also a problem for Mozilla? It's not that MS had found a way to lock out Opera; it's that lazy/sloppy web designers tend to code their pages to IE and to a lesser extent Netscape. Mozilla, _being_ Netscape, had fewer problems than Opera, but there are still times you bump up against incompetent web designers. -- Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
3Com Gigabit Server NIC Product #: 3C996B-T
Does the linux driver that comes with this NIC work straight out of the box on Woody? Some of 3Com's drivers only work with a few distributions, but they are unclear in their literature about this one. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
NForce audio chipset, alsa and dmix
I use an nforce2 based motherboard and use the audio chipset included in. I use it with snd_intel8x0 (alsa driver) and it works well, except a very usefull feature : mixing of multiple stream I would like to know how to get software mixing working ? I don't want to use program such as arts or esound. I would like to use dmix, but I don't succeed in making it working. I try with this following doc, but it doesn't work : http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/asoundrc.php3 I try : aplay -D hw:0,0 test.wav it doesn't work while aplay -D default test.wav works. Maybe there is a configuration problem with the alsa debian package, isn't there ? I need help a lot because no mixing is very annoying on a desktop system :/ Thanks in advance ;) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
installing kde cvs packages on sid
hi im trying to apt-get the kde cvs packages, but i get conflicts which go down as far as xlibs (i found this out by apt-get install libarts1, and so on). this is the output i get when trying to update the packages. i have put the apt repositories mentioned on the opendoorsoftware website in my sources.list file. i cant seem to get the system to install xlibs<4.3.0, even though it is in my sources list thanks # sudo apt-get install arts kdelibs kdebase Reading Package Lists... Building Dependency Tree... Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. The following information may help to resolve the situation: Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies: arts: Depends: libartsc0 (>= 1.2.0-0+cvs20031018+orth) but 1.1.4-3 is to be installed Depends: libarts1 (>= 1.2.0-0+cvs20031018+orth) but it is not going to be installed Depends: kde-cvs-snapshot but it is not going to be installed kdebase: Depends: kappfinder (>= 4:3.2.0-0+cvs20031103+orth) but it is not going to be installed Depends: kate (>= 4:3.2.0-0+cvs20031103+orth) but it is not going to be installed Depends: kcontrol (>= 4:3.2.0-0+cvs20031103+orth) but it is not going to be installed Depends: kdebase-bin (>= 4:3.2.0-0+cvs20031103+orth) but it is not going to be installed Depends: kdebase-data (>= 4:3.2.0-0+cvs20031103+orth) but 4:3.1.3-1 is to be installed Depends: kdebase-kio-plugins (>= 4:3.2.0-0+cvs20031103+orth) but it is not going to be installed Depends: kdeprint (>= 4:3.2.0-0+cvs20031103+orth) but it is not going to be installed Depends: kdesktop (>= 4:3.2.0-0+cvs20031103+orth) but it is not going to be installed Depends: kfind (>= 4:3.2.0-0+cvs20031103+orth) but it is not going to be installed Depends: khelpcenter (>= 4:3.2.0-0+cvs20031103+orth) but it is not going to be installed Depends: kicker (>= 4:3.2.0-0+cvs20031103+orth) but it is not going to be installed Depends: klipper (>= 4:3.2.0-0+cvs20031103+orth) but it is not going to be installed Depends: kmenuedit (>= 4:3.2.0-0+cvs20031103+orth) but it is not going to be installed Depends: konqueror-nsplugins (>= 4:3.2.0-0+cvs20031103+orth) but it is not going to be installed Depends: konqueror (>= 4:3.2.0-0+cvs20031103+orth) but it is not going to be installed Depends: konsole (>= 4:3.2.0-0+cvs20031103+orth) but it is not going to be installed Depends: kpager (>= 4:3.2.0-0+cvs20031103+orth) but it is not going to be installed Depends: kpersonalizer (>= 4:3.2.0-0+cvs20031103+orth) but it is not going to be installed Depends: ksmserver (>= 4:3.2.0-0+cvs20031103+orth) but it is not going to be installed Depends: ksplash (>= 4:3.2.0-0+cvs20031103+orth) but it is not going to be installed Depends: ksysguard (>= 4:3.2.0-0+cvs20031103+orth) but it is not going to be installed Depends: ktip (>= 4:3.2.0-0+cvs20031103+orth) but it is not going to be installed Depends: kwin (>= 4:3.2.0-0+cvs20031103+orth) but it is not going to be installed Depends: libkonq4 (>= 4:3.2.0-0+cvs20031103+orth) but it is not going to be installed kdelibs: Depends: kdelibs4 (>= 4:3.2.0-0+cvs20031103+orth) but it is not going to be installed Depends: kdelibs-bin (>= 4:3.2.0-0+cvs20031103+orth) but it is not going to be installed Depends: kdelibs-data (>= 4:3.2.0-0+cvs20031103+orth) but 4:3.1.4-3 is to be installed -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cannot install, upgrade, remove, etc.
Papadopoulos Alexis wrote: This is the message I get but apparently I was wrong, I'm not positive that this message is in any way related to my problem : "ide0(3,5):vs-7000: search_by_entry_key: search_by_key returned item position == 0" Still I'm sure the problem is the fs. Now as for unmounting everything except /, well it's / which has the problem (didn't bother to much to partition, one / and /home partition, and I do now regret it!). I still took the risk to execute fsck on my mounted / partition (i'm starting to believe that I have nothing to loose now, except another half a day to get everything up (full reinstall) and nothing changed except as I said that there seem to be 30 files messy... I think what I'd try now is to copy those 30 files from a working machine (assuming they're the same files (same versions)), or reinstall the packages containing those files. For example, if one of the files is named "libss.so.2.0", do a "dpkg -S libss.so.2.0 *", which tells you that you need to reinstall the "libss2" package. You said earlier that you can't install anything. Does that mean you can't even do something like "dpkg -i libss2.deb"? If so, I'd do the first thing mentioned above; try copying the files from a working system. -- Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: lilo+ext3 guru needed...
Dennis Stosberg írta: Am 06.11.2003 um 18:03 schrieb LeVA: So it seems I can not use data=journal with my root partition. I have to edit /etc/fstab , and change /dev/hda7 ...,data=ordered, if I want to start my system. Is this normal? I don't think so... Anybody knows the cure for this problem? Is there a way to specify some mount options to lilo, so I can put data=journal, and lilo mounts the root partition with journal data mode. Or do I have to use another boot manager (grub?) instead of lilo, to use data=journal with my root partition? Have you tried the "rootflags" boot option? With that option you should be able to pass mount options for the root file system to the kernel: rootflags=data=journal Does this work? Regards, Dennis Hello! Yes, it is working. Raly big thanks!!! Daniel -- LeVA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GUI login screen.
- Original Message - From: "Rob Weir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "debian-user" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 11:21 Subject: Re: GUI login screen. I must admit I dont know I thought I fixed it but must not have done so. I printed your note this time and I'll get it done. Thanks; Hoyt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Separate /home drive?
On Thu, 6 Nov 2003 16:53:39 -0500 "Jason Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ahh... reminds me of that old adage: > Home is where your fstab tells it to be. > > (Hint: man fstab) > > Regards, > Jason Thank you, Jason. Regards, David. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Faked Browser with Mozilla Firebird
On (06/11/03 17:35), Joseph Jones wrote: > > Lukas Ruf wrote: > > >Dear all, > > > >is there any way to make Mozilla Firebird send a faked browser > >identification to the server? I would like it to send for some sites > >the MSIE identification, while for others Netscape 4.7. > > > >Can I do this with Mozilla Firebird? And how? > > > >Thanks for any help! > > > >wbr, > >Lukas > > > > > Try out this little extension: http://prefbar.mozdev.org/ > > It adds an optional toolbar to Firebird that, amongst other things, > allows you to select a spooked user agent. > > Joe OK Guys ;) I'm intrigued. why would you want to do this? I understand Opera does it because MS had found a way to lock them out of certain sites. Is this also a problem for Mozilla? Regards Clive -- http://www.clivemenzies.co.uk strategies for business -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Separate /home drive?
On Thu, 06 Nov 2003 15:46:03 -0600 Kent West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > David Palmer. wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I've been reading different partitioning howtos but can't find any > > reference to a situation I thought I would like to install. > > It's probably a newbie idea, but I wondered if it would be possible > > to have system partitions on one drive, and posting to /home on > > another. If it is possible, > > Sure, easy. > > does anybody have a reference they could point me to? > > > It depends on where you're starting from. Assuming you have a > functional system, and you've just added in a new drive: > > 1) Partition the new drive, say "cfdisk /dev/hdb". To keep things > conceptually easy here, we'll assume the entire drive will be one > partition. So create a new partition, using the entire drive. It'll be > > of type "linux". > > 2) Format the new partition, say "mkfs /dev/hdb1". > > 3) Inform /etc/fstab of the new partition, say: > > /dev/hdb1 /home ext2 rw 02 > > 4) Temporarily mount your new partition, say: > mkdir /tmpHome > mount /dev/hdb1 /tmpHome > > 5) Copy over your existing /home directory, say "cp -a /home/ > /tmpHome" > > 6) Switch to single user mode, say "init S". > > 7) Make sure /home is not mounted, say > mount > if it's mounted, "umount /home" > > 8) Rename your current home directory, say "mv /home /home.bak" > > 9) Create a new home directory, with the same permissions/ownership as > > the old one, say: > mkdir /home > ls -ld /home.bak (to see old perms) > chown and chmod as necessary > > 10) Mount the new directory to make sure it looks right, say: > mount /home > > 11) Return to normal mode, say "init 2". > > That should do it. > > -- > Kent > Thanks for that. I don't understand what half of it means, but finding out is what it's all about. Regards, David. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: icewm problems
On Nov 06 at 14:00, Thomas H. George spoke: > /etc/init.d/kdm and added /usr/games to the path list. This didn't > solve the problem so I edited .icewm/toolbar in my home directory and > changed the entry to prog "Pysol" /usr/games/pysol pysol. This didn't Try prog Pysol pysol /usr/games/pysol -Hanspeter -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xfce
On (06/11/03 17:24), JG wrote: > Kent West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Hi Kent, > > > > > >> Not knowing what your level of *nix knowledge is, it's hard to answer > > >> without being too terse or too simplistic. > > > I've been using Redhat for about a year now. I know it fairly well, but > > > I have to admit I'm a bit "gui dependent". > > > > > >> You should be able to install tasksel, and then run it, and select "X > > >> window system" to get a basic system up and running. > > > I didn't see X window system, but I did see desktop system. I went > > > ahead > > > and installed it. Unfortunately, it installed kde and gnome with it. I > > > didn't see an option to have it not do that. Anyway, after installing I > > > type "startx" and get this error message: > > > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/xservrc: /usr/bin/X11/X: No such file or > > > directory > > > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/xservrc: exec: /usr/bin/X11/X: cannot execute: > > > No such file or directory > > > > I never have quite trusted tasksel . . . . > > > > Okay, do this instead. > > > > "apt-get install xbase-clients xserver-common xserver-xfree86 > > xfonts-base xfonts-75dpi xfonts-100dpi xfonts-scalable" and that should > > get you a minimal X system going. > > > > A shorter line would be: > > $ apt-get install x-window-system-core > > You could also install: > > $ apt-get install x-window-system > > and you obtain xterm, xdm (a graphical login), and some other things in > addition. > Whilst the suggestions of wiser souls above will achieve what you want, I would suggest you look at dselect as a means to see exactly what packages are available. It will also deal with dependencies etc. Regards Clive -- http://www.clivemenzies.co.uk strategies for business -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Separate /home drive?
On Thu, 06 Nov 2003 15:38:06 -0600 Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 15:24, David Palmer. wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I've been reading different partitioning howtos but can't find any > > reference to a situation I thought I would like to install. > > It's probably a newbie idea, but I wondered if it would be possible > > to have system partitions on one drive, and posting to /home on > > another. If it is possible, does anybody have a reference they could > > point me to? > > Sure, why not? > I'm aware that there is a standard cross balance/reference configuration from server box to server box to copy information from one to the other in case of server failure. Is it possible to employ the same or similar mechanism to copy from drive to drive within the PC environment, or is this only possible by way of a periodic backup procedure, perhaps through cron, anacron, or another utility? I'm looking at maintaining a copy of the /home drive in the above configuration in the case of drive failure. I can always boot into system partitions with a rescue disc, but I want to be able to preserve the info on /home. Regards and thanks, David. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Separate /home drive?
On 2003-11-06, David Palmer. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's probably a newbie idea, but I wondered if it would be possible to > have system partitions on one drive, and posting to /home on another. Of course it's possible. It's even possible to have /home mounted on a different machine over the network (NFS). To mount /home on a different drive, just create an empty /home directory on the drive where your root partition is, and then in /etc/fstab insert a line like: /dev/hdc7/homeext2user,errors=remount-ro 0 2 If you need more details: man fstab -- Miernik jabber:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___/__ tel: +48608233394 __/ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] No Iraq war http://www.globalexchange.org/campaigns/iraq/invadeIraq082702.html Please call the White House +1-202-456- or fax +1-202-456-2461 and say no! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Separate /home drive?
Hello David Palmer. (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote: > I've been reading different partitioning howtos but can't find any > reference to a situation I thought I would like to install. > It's probably a newbie idea, but I wondered if it would be possible to > have system partitions on one drive, and posting to /home on another. Yes, it is possible. If you do not yet have installed Debian, create the two partitions (you can do this during the installation). Next format and mount them. The installation program lets you choose where you want to mount your partitions, choose /home for the home partition. If you already have installed Debian, create a new partition, format it (for example with mke2fs if you want to use ext2 or ext3). Next, mount it somewhere, move your stuff from /home to the new partition (/don't/ move the home dir itself there, only it's contents), unmount it and remount it in /home. Now all you have to do is to add a line to your fstab to have it mounted at boottime automatically. best regards Andreas Janssen -- Andreas Janssen [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP-Key-ID: 0xDC801674 Registered Linux User #267976 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Fwd: Re: Cannot install, upgrade, remove, etc.]
The first time I runned it, it said something like that (sorry forgot), but it now says : /dev/hda1: clean, 30/8032 files, 11794/32098 blocks the 30 above means there are 30 corrupted files no ? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cannot install, upgrade, remove, etc.
This is the message I get but apparently I was wrong, I'm not positive that this message is in any way related to my problem : "ide0(3,5):vs-7000: search_by_entry_key: search_by_key returned item position == 0" Still I'm sure the problem is the fs. Now as for unmounting everything except /, well it's / which has the problem (didn't bother to much to partition, one / and /home partition, and I do now regret it!). I still took the risk to execute fsck on my mounted / partition (i'm starting to believe that I have nothing to loose now, except another half a day to get everything up (full reinstall) and nothing changed except as I said that there seem to be 30 files messy... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: file and directory permissions question...
On (06/11/03 14:39), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Eric,
>
> > /foo - Only folks in the 'users' group can read, write and delete
> > files/dirs.
>
> The permissions of directory foo do not influence whether someone can
> open a given file in it for reading or writing, only whether he can
> delete, create, or rename a file. Read permission for the directory
> means you can read what files are in it, e.g. issue the ls command and
> have filename completion. Once someone without read permission to a
> directory /knows/ the exact name of a file that's in it, however, he
> can write to, read, or execute that file if its permissions permit it.
> Precondition to do anything _at_all_ in the directory, however, is to
> have "execute" permission on it (even if you only want to "pass
> through" and do something in a subdirectory).
>
> Thus, the permissions of directory foo rule who is allowed to enter it
> at all (= "execute" permission), read its contents (the filenames and
> other information about the files) (= read permission), and who is
> allowed to create, rename, or delete files in it (= write permission).
>
> There are, however, two permission bits, which, when set on a
> directory, influence something beyond this:
>
> - the sticky bit, when set on a directory, has the effect of
> restricting write operations on the directory a little more: to
> delete or rename a file within it, it is no more enough to have
> write permission to the directory, but you have to be the owner of
> either the directory or the file (or the superuser, of course).
>
> - the setgid bit, when set on a directory, causes any new file created
> in it to take on the group ownership of the directory, rather than
> the default group of the user who created that file.
>
>
> Thus, for directory /foo, you need an ls -l output like this:
>
> dxrwxrw--- rootusers foo
>
> (say 'chmod 770 /foo' and 'chgrp users /foo'). As far as I can see,
> this is the closest you can get to what you want: it allows the owner
> of the directory (arbitrarily root here) and members of the group
> users to create, rename, and delete files inside /foo, as well as get
> information _about_ the files in it. It excludes "the rest of the
> world" from doing anything inside it.
>
> > /bar - Only folks in the 'admin' group can read, write and delete
> > files/dirs.
>
> ditto: (say 'chmod 770 /bar' and 'chgrp admin /bar'.
>
> > For both: New files/dirs are created as owner=the person that
> > created it.
>
> This is always the case, AFAIK (no permission bit influences that).
>
> > New files/dirs are created as group='users'|'admin', respectively.
>
> Set the setgid bit: say 'chmod 2770 ...' instead of '770'.
>
> > User fred is in groups fred,user
> > User barney is in group barney
> > User betty is in groups betty,user,admin
> >
> > I'd like Betty to be able to read/write in both foo and bar.
> > Barney is hosed, he cannot read or write in neither foo nor bar
> > I'd like Fred to be able to read/write only in foo.
>
> That should be achieved here; I think your group assignment is
> logical.
>
> > I've tried logging in as betty and touching a new file in bar, but no
> > luck (permission denied), even when
> > drwxrwx--T 13 admin admin 4096 Nov 05 10:52 bar
>
> You have set the sticky bit ('chmod 1770 ...' instead of the setgid
> bit, ('chmod 2770 ...'). Permissions in ls -l output must be
> 'drwxrws---', not 'drwxrwx--T'.
>
> Compare with what is said above: If the sticky bit is set, betty must
> be either the owner of the directory (which is not the case: the owner
> is called admin), the owner of the file (apparently not her), or the
> superuser (apparently not).
>
Thanks Florian
I learn so much from this list ;)
Regards
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Re: Separate /home drive?
On Fri, Nov 07, 2003 at 05:24:25AM +0800, David Palmer. wrote: > > Hello, > > I've been reading different partitioning howtos but can't find any > reference to a situation I thought I would like to install. > It's probably a newbie idea, but I wondered if it would be possible to > have system partitions on one drive, and posting to /home on another. > If it is possible, does anybody have a reference they could point me to? > Thanks for any information. > Regards, > > David. > It is certainly possible, and in some situations, a good idea. In fact, the Woody install process allows you to set up /home on a separate partition during install. So it not just my opinion, but also has some authority backing it. To actually *do* it, you need to give some thought to the order in which the several steps are done, so that you don't loose your home directory and its contents. Here is my first cut, from memory. 1. Prepare the separate partition, suppose it is /dev/hdc2 2. Create a mount point at /mnt/home2 3. Mount /dev/hdc2 at /mnt/home2 4. Copy /home to /mnt/home2 5. Check that /mnt/home2 is a true copy of /home 6. Change some non-essential file on /mnt/home so that you can tell it apart from the original /home . 7. Edit /etc/fstab to mount /dev/hdc2 at /home (This will hide and make unavailable the original home directory, and place the new home partition in use.) 8. Umount /mnt/home2 and mount /home . Check that /home now has the change that you made to /mnt/home in step 6 above. This proves that you actually have your new partition mounted at /home . 9. Later, after you have seen your new home partition working as you wish, you can temporarily umount /home, and delete the old contents of /home . Deleting the old version will release disk space on your root drive. Don't be in a rush to do this. There may be something that makes you wish to go back. Be sure to leave /home as an empty directory. You need this as a mount point for your partition. -- Paul E Condon [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Separate /home drive?
Ahh... reminds me of that old adage: Home is where your fstab tells it to be. (Hint: man fstab) Regards, Jason -Original Message- From: David Palmer. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 4:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Separate /home drive? Hello, I've been reading different partitioning howtos but can't find any reference to a situation I thought I would like to install. It's probably a newbie idea, but I wondered if it would be possible to have system partitions on one drive, and posting to /home on another. If it is possible, does anybody have a reference they could point me to? Thanks for any information. Regards, David. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
lilo 22.5.8-4
Hello, I installed lilo 225.8-4 in my box and I added in lilo.conf: bitmap=/usr/share/lilo/contrib/sid.bmp bmp-color=1,,0,2,,0 bmp-table=120p,173p,1,15,17 bmp-timer=254p,432p,1,0,0 install=/boot/boot-map.b afterward I ran /sbin/lilo and when I rebooted I saw the nice picture sid.bmp, but there is not file boot-map.b in /boot, however when I ran /sbin/lilo there was not: error: /boot/boot-map.b no such file or directory. Can I delete the line install=/boot/boot-map.b safely ? TIA -- Gerard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Fwd: Re: Cannot install, upgrade, remove, etc.]
On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 15:37, Papadopoulos Alexis wrote: > Original Message > Subject: Re: Cannot install, upgrade, remove, etc. > From:"Papadopoulos Alexis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date:Thu, November 6, 2003 3:33 pm > To: "Kent West" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > -- > > Actually ls is in /bin/ for me. It doesn't change anything. > I'm positive now that the problem is due to the fs, some weird messages > appear in the boot process, that must be it. Now, is there at least (so as > to begin) any way to get rid of these corrupted files (I cannot remove > them, since rm responds that there is no such file, and rm -f isn't > working) ? > fsck didn't help, though saying that 30 are messy... fsck says that there are 30 corrupt files? > Anyone has a clue ? > > Thanks again > > > Papadopoulos Alexis wrote: > >> Apparently the problem is somewhat bigger than that... > >> I just typed ls -l in /var/lib/dpkg/info > >> Here are the first lines : > >> ls: libidl0.postrm: No such file or directory > >> ls: bash.postinst: No such file or directory > > > > > > > >> ls: klipper.list: No such file or directory > >> ls: reading directory .: Input/output error > >> > >> Now I must say that I'm a little bit confused... How can that be ? This is > >> the origin of the problem but what is IT ? > >> > >> Can that be that the files got corrupted or something like that ? Can I do > >> something to solve this ? Strange though, I'm using ReiserFS, are these > kind of things supposed to be avoided ? Oh, and if I try to replace for > instance xfree86-common.list my PC reboots immediatly! > > > > Try "/usr/bin/ls -l"; any difference? -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jefferson, LA USA "Perl is worse than Python because people wanted it worse." Larry Wall, 10/14/1998 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"
On Thursday 06 November 2003 14:27, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: > So, yes: It seems it makes some sense what the RedHat chief executive > said. If your brother or sister starts a new venture, you wouldn't use the local newspaper to say that their venture is immature and folks should check back in a few years. That makes sense and it's true, but if you did, your brother or sister would be terribly hurt and angry. (I use "you" in the general sense and not in the directly personal sense.) I'm working hard to create a widget that runs on Linux. Others are doing the same. We don't need Mr RH CEO working with Bill and Darryl to tarnish the reputation of good software because it changes their world. MBA-boy screwed up with his public passive-aggressive comments. What next from RH - a public admission that Linux really does infringe on SCO property rights? Hell has no wrath like a CEO scorned. -- Mike Mueller 324881 (08/20/2003) Make clockwise circles with your right foot. Now use your right hand to draw the number "6" in the air. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cannot install, upgrade, remove, etc.
Papadopoulos Alexis wrote: Actually ls is in /bin/ for me. It doesn't change anything. I'm positive now that the problem is due to the fs, some weird messages appear in the boot process, What are the messages? Strange though, I'm using ReiserFS, are these I've never used ReiserFS, so am unfamiliar with possible issues. I'd try switching to single-user mode (init S), and unmounting everything but /, then trying fsck on whatever partition is having the problems. (But again, not being familiar with Reiser, this may not be the right thing to do.) -- Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
