Re: sqwebmail
On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 11:38:04AM -0500, David Gaudine wrote.. I'm having trouble with sqwebmail. I'm using sarge, but a quick attempt on a Woody system seemed the same. I followed the instructions in README.Debian; -copied /usr/lib/courier/sqwebmail/html to /home/mywebmail (I used cp -a, so the directory en-us and the link us were copied) - Added SetEnv SQWEBMAIL_TEMPLATEDIR /home/mywebmail to httpd.conf Apache wouldn't accept the SetEnv, so I uncommented the line in httpd.conf that loads mod_env. Now, if I go to http://systemname/cgi-bin/sqwebmail it works, but isn't the SetEnv supposed to make http://systemname/sqwebmail work? the longer url works with or without the SetEnv. I put the SetEnv line at the end of httpd.conf, was it supposed to go somewhere else? Unless you are using VirtualHost, it can go just about anywhere. Here's what I've added to get mine to work: SetEnv SQWEBMAIL_TEMPLATEDIR /home/my_domain_name/sqwebmail ScriptAlias /webmail /usr/lib/cgi-bin/sqwebmail Alias /sqwebmail /usr/share/sqwebmail The first line tells Sqwebmail to use /home/my_domain_name/sqwebmail as its home directory instead of the debian default of /usr/lib/courier/sqwebmail/html/en-us/. This is where all of the files like login.html, etc reside. I've set it up this way because I do use VirtualHosts and this allows each virtual host to have a customized look. The second line is what gets the user to Sqwebmail. A simple alias, all they have to do is type '/webmail' after the website name. The third line is where all of the .gif images are kept. All images for all of my virtualhosts are kept in this directory. It would probably make sense for me to break out the images to virtualhost specific image directories, but I haven't bothered yet. In my setup, which could probably be streamlined a bit, I need all 3 of these lines to make it work for the virtualhosts. Lastly, in my httpd.conf, I have mod_env as a live line (not commented out): LoadModule env_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_env.so Hope this helps rather than confuses you. Kevin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Running SCO RM-COBOL under Debian GNU/Linux 3.0r1
Hi all, I have received the task of doing a migration from a SCO Unix server to a Debian GNU/Linux one, the only problem its a COBOL app that is running on the SCO system, I have found information about using SCO binaries under Linux, but it's quite old, does anyone have recent information about this?. What will I need? appart from the SCO binaries and libs. Best Regards -- _ _ // Raúl A. Betancort Santana/ A Dream is an answer to __ \\ // [EMAIL PROTECTED] // question that we don't know (oo) \\ // Dimensión Virtual S.L. // how to ask. / \/ \ // \ A Linux Solution Provider / `V__V' / signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Need a user-friendly, low-requirement desktop
On Tuesday 25 November 2003 13:58, Alex Malinovich wrote: In this particular case, however, I'm dealing with a Pentium 233 MHz with 32 MB of RAM. While I'd love to put Gnome and Nautilus on there and call it a day, waiting 10 minutes for the desktop to load and another 2 minutes for the file-manager just won't cut it I'm afraid. I gave my old computer (P200, 32MB) to my brother, who had no experience with computers. I installed XFCE 3 and he's been very happy with that. I don't know if XFCE 4 needs more memory, but i doubt it. XFCE comes with filemanager (very fast) etc. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Are the main archives back online yet?
On Tue, Nov 25, 2003 at 08:55:45AM -0500, Paul Smith wrote: %% Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: t I've read http://www.wiggy.net/debian/status/ but it's not clear if t the main archives are back up yet. The system housing the main archive was not compromised, so it never went down in the first place. I'm still scared. Sometimes when I'm walking around I feel like I could just fall straight up (i.e., anything is possible). This feels like one of those times... Time for a leap of faith, I guess. Say something reassuring. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: running script from cdrom fails
Micha Feigin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When I try to run shell scripts from cdrom I get the following message: bash: ./INSTALLDOCS.SH: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Permission denied I got this with several bash scripts and in fact, I don't remmember one that did work. Any idea? Probably your CD-ROM is listed in /etc/fstab (the configuration file that tells mount about your filesystems) with a line something like: /dev/cdrom /cdrom iso9660 ro,user,noauto According to the mount(8) manpage: user Allow an ordinary user to mount the file system. The name of the mounting user is written to mtab so that he can unmount the file system again. This option implies the options noexec, nosuid, and nodev (unless overridden by subsequentoptions,asintheoption line user,exec,dev,suid). noexec Do not allow execution of any binaries on the mounted file system. This option might be useful for a server that has file systems containing binaries for architectures other than its own. Thus, adding exec at some point after user in the list mount options will do the trick: /dev/cdrom /cdrom iso9660 ro,user,exec,noauto With this configuration, anyone who can mount a CD on your machine can run the executables on the CD. This isn't a problem because (a) if someone nefarious has physical access to your machine, you're a goner anyway, (b) under a typical setup, users can install whatever executables they want (and thus could copy 'em from a CD to a home directory), and (c) if a nefarious user can run mount /cdrom there are almost certainly lots of other ways he can get executables onto the machine. -- Gregory K. Johnson -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Anaconda, where's the beef?
On Saturday 15 November 2003 07:00, David Palmer. wrote: I don't know why we have to go to Red Hat for something that Debian requires. My reason for being interested in anaconda-debian is kickstart, that's the entire reason, the only reason. I agree that debian-installer is the way to go for a normal Debian install and I have done several test installs with it over the past 6 months. However, AFAIK debian-installer still doesn't support unattended installs (or perhaps they just aren't documented?). I can understand progeny's reasons for doing the anaconda port somewhat but I don't see why they wouldn't have been better served by helped d-i and then getting it ported to work with redhat. All questions aside, the anaconda port was apparently done and the work does sound useful as a stop-gap measure. -- Fraser Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.wehave.net/ Halton Hills, Ontario, Canada Debian GNU/Linux -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Learning debian Linux
On Thu, Nov 20, 2003 at 09:15:48PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Nov 20, 2003 at 10:42:31AM +0100, Knut Willy wrote: 5. Is it possible to go ahead as I have mentioned above? Well, if it is at all possible to get that machine online, you'll be glad you did. Then you can use one of the netinst images (just one CD) and upgrade semiautomagically when new releases come out. The hard way is to burn the whole set, much of it you won't need. http://cdimage.debian.org/ IIRC, the OP specified that there's no CDROM in the machine... It is still _well_ worthwhile to get the machine online somehow. That being said, it is possible to install the base system from (about 20) floppies. This is, of course, a _very_ minimal system, but I found it useful recently to do that for an archaic laptop. The installation manual is an obvious place to start: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual Of course, a few days later, I discovered just how little use I have for a machine with no network connection, so I bit the bullet and bought a NIC for it... Cheers! -- ,-. -ScruLoose- | I do not agree with what you have to say, Please |but I'll defend to the death your right to say it. do not Cc me. |- Voltaire `-' pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: finding what is using a mount point
On Fri, Nov 21, 2003 at 03:43:49PM +0200, Micha Feigin wrote: I mounted an image through a loop interface and now when I try to unload it I get a message: umount: /home/micha/tmp: device is busy I made sure no file is open from there but nothing helps. How do I see what is using that mount point? I believe fuser may be the tool for this job. Cheers! -- ,-. -ScruLoose- |You don't *have* a soul. You *are* a soul. Please | You *have* a body, temporarily. do not Cc me. |- A Canticle For Liebowitz `-' pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Can't Re-Subscribe
My subscription to this list must have been cancelled - but not by me! -as I have resceived no new postings in the last two days. Several times I have gone to the Debian web site and tried to re-subscribe. Each time, after a long wait, I get a message that the site is not responding. I wont be able to see any responses to this message since I have been removed from the list. I am posting it in hopes that others have had the same problem and the cifficulty will soon be resolved. Tom -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apt-getting source for my kernel
Mark Healey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I need to compile the nic driver for my Broadcom bcm4401. I have the source but it needs the kernel source. I installed from disk 5 which means I have kernel 2.4.18-bf2.4. I tried apt-getting kernel-source-2.4.18-bf2.4 and was told it doesn't exist. (1) 'apt-get install aptitude' (2) 'aptitude' (3) '/ kernel-source' (4) '\', until you find 2.4.18 source (5) '+' to mark it for installation (6) 'g', twice, to actually install it (7) 'q y' to get out of aptitude -- David Maze [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://people.debian.org/~dmaze/ Theoretical politics is interesting. Politicking should be illegal. -- Abra Mitchell -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Can't Re-Subscribe
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Nov 24, 2003 at 08:40:44AM -0500, Thomas H. George wrote: My subscription to this list must have been cancelled - but not by me! -as I have resceived no new postings in the last two days. Not really, no. Subscribe to debian-announce and you would have had known what was up. - -- .''`. Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] : :' : `. `'` proud Debian admin and user `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fix a system -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/w2rZUzgNqloQMwcRAo+SAJ9euuBtobK8j12XI2CYfVPk3UPlMQCeOb8i ErsCxufKaUIH0xUPNou+LaI= =wO3D -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Need a user-friendly, low-requirement desktop
Alex Malinovich wrote: I've finally managed to get a few friends and family members with very little computer knowledge to switch to Linux. One in particular at the moment has me at a bit of a loss as to what to suggest. My friend's mother is fed up with Windows 98 and wants something better. Every time before I've had to go with a newbie-friendly GUI for people who don't know computers and more importantly DON'T WANT TO LEARN about them, I've gone with either a Gnome or KDE setup. In this particular case, however, I'm dealing with a Pentium 233 MHz with 32 MB of RAM. While I'd love to put Gnome and Nautilus on there and call it a day, waiting 10 minutes for the desktop to load and another 2 minutes for the file-manager just won't cut it I'm afraid. At any other time, I'd suggest one of the *box variants. But with a user with this little knowledge and this little patience, anything that she can't just pick up and use right away simply won't cut it. So any ideas? (If only I could get her to learn emacs... emacs + w3m + XF86 + gnus = perfection! :) Here are two alternatives : http://www.xfce.org/ http://rox.sourceforge.net/phpwiki/index.php/ROX-Filer John -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: finding what is using a mount point
On Fri, Nov 21, 2003 at 02:16:06PM -0500, ScruLoose wrote: ,-. -ScruLoose- |You don't *have* a soul. You *are* a soul. Please | You *have* a body, temporarily. do not Cc me. |- A Canticle For Liebowitz `-' This reminds me of some text from my favorite book: The Illusion of Technique by William Barret, p.79: In his sudden and abrupt fashion Wittgenstein lets fall the observation: `My attitude toward him is an attitude toward a soul. I am not of the iopinion/i that he has a soul.' [178e] The statement dangles there in the text, and is not given the further explanation it cries out for. I do not think my friend ihas/i a soul, in the sense of some Cartesian substance hidden in his head or diffused throughout his body. Nevertheless, my attitude toward him is still that toward a soul. It would be more correct to say that he iis/i a soul, rather than that he ihas/i as soul -- just as, by the way, it is more correct to say that he is a body than that he has a body. // Your second statement's disagreement with the text is what caught my eye. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
how do I subscribe to debian-announce?
I had previously used the web interface at lists.debian.org to get on this debian mailing list, but now that redirects me here: http://www.debian.org/distrib/ftplist Should I just wait until it can be restored or is there another way to subscribe? Many thanks to the entire Debian team and community for restoring my precious apt-servers and doing a great job. Rohit -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Need a user-friendly, low-requirement desktop
Alex Malinovich wrote: I've finally managed to get a few friends and family members with very little computer knowledge to switch to Linux. One in particular at the moment has me at a bit of a loss as to what to suggest. My friend's mother is fed up with Windows 98 and wants something better. Every time before I've had to go with a newbie-friendly GUI for people who don't know computers and more importantly DON'T WANT TO LEARN about them, I've gone with either a Gnome or KDE setup. In this particular case, however, I'm dealing with a Pentium 233 MHz with 32 MB of RAM. While I'd love to put Gnome and Nautilus on there and call it a day, waiting 10 minutes for the desktop to load and another 2 minutes for the file-manager just won't cut it I'm afraid. At any other time, I'd suggest one of the *box variants. But with a user with this little knowledge and this little patience, anything that she can't just pick up and use right away simply won't cut it. So any ideas? (If only I could get her to learn emacs... emacs + w3m + XF86 + gnus = perfection! :) Here are two alternatives : http://www.xfce.org/ http://rox.sourceforge.net/phpwiki/index.php/ROX-Filer Sorry, this is the right link : http://rox.sourceforge.net/phpwiki/ John -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
NoMailAudit error
I'm trying to get Spamassassin to work with Postfix and Procmail. I
got to the point of creating a filter account, and went to it to
test it by running:
# cat notspam.txt | ./sa-filter.sh -f brownh -- brownh
I message I received as a result lacked body and spam test. There were
at least two reasons:
I installed the deb spamassassin file, and it put things into
different locations than had I compiled it, apparently. The
spamassassin executable is in /usr/bin, not /usr/local/bin. So when I
run this test:
cat: notspam.txt: no such file or directory
I get:
./sa-filter.sh: /usr/local/bin/spamassassin: No such file or directory
I simply copied over the spamassasin executable into /usr/local/bin
and now when I run the test command:
Couldn't open /var/mail/brownh: Permission denied at
/usr/share/Perl5/Mail/Spamassassin/NoMailAudit.pm line 365
I get the test message, but it lacks any body and lacks any spam
test.
The file NoMailAudit.pm has permission rw-r--r--
Line 365:
if ($gotlock || $nodotlocking) {
if (!open (MBOX, $file)) {
die Couldn't open $file: $!;
}
I'm lost. I'm not sure if I can simply copy over the executable as I
did. I'm running this with rmail, not mutt. Isn't mbox for mutt? Rmail
uses RMAIL instead.
Haines Brown
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Re: apt-getting source for my kernel
I need to compile the nic driver for my Broadcom bcm4401. I have the source but it needs the kernel source. I installed from disk 5 which means I have kernel 2.4.18-bf2.4. I tried apt-getting kernel-source-2.4.18-bf2.4 and was told it doesn't exist. Where are you trying to gett it from? (the lines in your sources.list) How are you doing it? Are you shure it is that kernel? Did you try uname -r in a terminal to check it? John -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Anaconda, where's the beef?
On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 14:11:01 -0500 Fraser Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 15 November 2003 07:00, David Palmer. wrote: I don't know why we have to go to Red Hat for something that Debian requires. My reason for being interested in anaconda-debian is kickstart, that's the entire reason, the only reason. I agree that debian-installer is the way to go for a normal Debian install and I have done several test installs with it over the past 6 months. However, AFAIK debian-installer still doesn't support unattended installs (or perhaps they just aren't documented?). I can understand progeny's reasons for doing the anaconda port somewhat but I don't see why they wouldn't have been better served by helped d-i and then getting it ported to work with redhat. All questions aside, the anaconda port was apparently done and the work does sound useful as a stop-gap measure. Hello Fraser, A package directory search for kickstart is somewhat pointless at the moment, but I believe I have seen some reference to a Debian package of that name on this list at some stage. Regards, David. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how do I subscribe to debian-announce?
On Tue, Nov 25, 2003 at 09:50:32AM -0500, Rohit Kumar Mehta wrote: I had previously used the web interface at lists.debian.org to get on this debian mailing list, but now that redirects me here: http://www.debian.org/distrib/ftplist The list archives (lists.debian.org) are hosted on master.debian.org which hasn't been fully re-established yet, hence that page doesn't work fully yet. Should I just wait until it can be restored or is there another way to subscribe? Send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED], with a subject of subscribe. Make sure you spell subscribe properly or it won't work. In general, you can subscribe to any debian list by email listname[EMAIL PROTECTED], where you should replace listname with the actual name of the list. Cheers, Pasc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apt-getting source for my kernel: Second post since the list server seemed to be down.
Mark Healey wrote: I need to compile the nic driver for my Broadcom bcm4401. I have the source but it needs the kernel source. I installed from disk 5 which means I have kernel 2.4.18-bf2.4. I tried apt-getting kernel-source-2.4.18-bf2.4 and was told it doesn't exist. Without networking how do I get it. Or if it is under a different name what is it? I believe you want kernel-source-2.4.18 (no -bf2.4). Then you may have to compile a kernel in order for your source headers and your kernel to match. If you don't want to compile a kernel, you might try just the header files for your vf2.4 kernel, which is probably named kernel-headers-2.4.18-bf2.4. Try apt-cache search kernel-source-2.4.18 and/or apt-cache search kernel-head | grep 2.4 for a listing of what 2.4 kernel stuff is available on your CDs. -- Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: running script from cdrom fails
On Fri, Nov 21, 2003 at 03:58:43PM +0200, Micha Feigin wrote: When I try to run shell scripts from cdrom I get the following message: bash: ./INSTALLDOCS.SH: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Permission denied I got this with several bash scripts and in fact, I don't remmember one that did work. Any idea? Just a guess here, but is your cdrom mounted with exec permissions? Cheers! -- ,-. -ScruLoose- | I do not agree with what you have to say, Please |but I'll defend to the death your right to say it. do not Cc me. |- Voltaire `-' pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
apt-get etiquette
I'm a Mandrake user hoping to trade up. As such, I expect to break my install beyond my capacity to fix it at least a few times. Does it matter that I upgrade from stable to unstable, and pull many packages from the server, each time? Is there a (n easy) way to use a local cache? Once up and running, how often should I update? Every night? Richard -- Art is not a reproducible result. Creativity is a profoundly subjective act. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: evolution usability (somewhat OT)
On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 00:27:54 -0800 Erik Steffl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Erik, Go to the 'view' menu, and click 'hide deleted messages.' That will solve your first two points. they don't seem to go to trash (I would like the emails from IMAP server go to trash on the same server, just like it can be set in mozilla) I know what you want, but it's not currently available in Evolution. All deleted mails in Evo go to a Virtual Trash folder - the actual messages are left in the original folders and cannot be moved. There have been many, many requests for it though and there's an open Wish List bug at Ximian that you may want to sign on to. Too bad Evo can't do this - it's a show-stopper for me as well as many others. -- Todd Pytel Signature attached PGP Key ID 77B1C00C pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Xaw-based applications have XOpenFont failures, but only locally
Brian Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
David Z Maze [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Starting sometime within the past week, something has broken on my
(x86 unstable) system, such that Xaw-based applications won't start
up. For example:
{53} dmaze% xcalc
X Error of failed request: BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation)
Is there any way to find out which font is being looked for?
Not really the answer you're looking for, but strace?
strace actually did turn out to be useful here: since the X clients
and X server are logically separate, I could watch the client send the
XOpenFont request to the server, which included the font name.
Tracking this down further revealed that the ttf-bitstream-vera font
was causing the problem; Xaw was somehow picking this as its default
font and things were dying. I had similar problems trying with
ttf-dustin, but the TrueType fonts I have in /usr/local/share/fonts
work fine. So it could be a problem in the ttf-* packages (but
multiple of them showed the problem), or in the XFree86 TrueType
renderer (but non-packaged fonts work fine). I uninstalled
ttf-bitstream-vera and went on with life.
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Re: 3rd Attempt at installing Debian
Mark Healey wrote: There is no networking. I need to build a module for my nic which doesn't have a .deb package. I have the source but need the kernel source which wasn't installed. I discovered that unilike what many people told me I don't need to rebuild the kernel. I fought with a machine last week that had a broadcom nic. I found that I could not get it to work with a 2.2 kernel without recompiling the kernel, which I did, just long enough to hit the network so I could upgrade to a 2.4 kernel. It's been a week, so I'm not sure I remember correctly, but I think it worked out of the box with the 2.4 kernel. I also need to figure out why X isn't working. There is also no mouse detection. Whenever I boot it it tries to start X. Several error messages. This is a hassle. Before I do anything else I'd like to stop this. I know it has something to to with something called runlevel What do I put in what file to change this. I would suggest you break these issues out into separate email threads, and give each thread a meaninful subject line, like broadcom nic fails on 2.2 kernel or X tries to start on boot but can't or mouse not detected in X or mouse not detected in console or mouse not detected in console or X. No, in Debian, the starting up of X is not dependent on the runlevel. That's the way some other distros, like RH and Mandrake I believe, do it. But Debian does not. Instead, you'll need to uninstall or otherwise deactivate the login manager, which is most likely xdm, wdm, kdm, or gdm. The quickest/easiest fix is probably to get to a console and run apt-get remove xdm and then repeat the command, replacing xdm with wdm, kdm, and gdm. Later, when you've gotten X working, you can reinstall your preferred login manager with a command like apt-get install gdm. -- Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Importing Corel Draw
On Tuesday 25 November 2003 01:07 am, Thanasis Kinias wrote: scripsit Luis Fernando Llana Díaz: I have some pictures made with Corel Draw. Is there any possibility of use them under Linux? I haven't been able to find any. I have many of these, too, from an earlier career -- as well as many WordPerfect and QuattroPro files. No one has ever been able to point me to a converter for any of these, and neither the Gnome apps nor OpenOffice can read the files last time I chedked. :( If anyone knows differently, let us both know, please! Sketch (http://sketch.sourceforge.net = sketch package) can import Corel Draw CMX format files. The author and some of the more involved users are former Corel Draw users. HTH, Terry -- Terry Hancock ( hancock at anansispaceworks.com ) Anansi Spaceworks http://www.anansispaceworks.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How to downgrade a package
I'm having problems since upgrading to the latest apache-perl in Sid. How can I downgrade to the previous package (including all dependencies)? I want to verify what I think is wrong. I still have these in my cache. I'd like to downgrade to the 1.3.28-4, which is the last version that I was using and where my logs show it was working. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ locate apache-perl | grep deb | xargs ls -lt -rw-r--r--1 root root 477276 2003-11-05 10:17 /var/cache/apt/archives/apache-perl_1.3.29-1_i386.deb -rw-r--r--1 root root 472368 2003-10-14 06:02 /var/cache/apt/archives/apache-perl_1.3.28-4_i386.deb -rw-r--r--1 root root 472044 2003-10-06 09:32 /var/cache/apt/archives/apache-perl_1.3.28-1_i386.deb -rw-r--r--1 root root 453626 2003-09-03 10:02 /var/cache/apt/archives/apache-perl_1.3.27.1-3_i386.deb -rw-r--r--1 root root 382 2003-04-25 05:41 /usr/share/doc/apache-perl/examples/htaccess.debian -rw-r--r--1 root root 251784 2003-02-03 15:47 /var/cache/apt/archives/apache-perl_1.3.27-0.1-1.27-3-1_i386.deb -rw-r--r--1 root root 192994 2002-06-23 14:32 /var/cache/apt/archives/apache-perl_1.3.26-1-1.26-0woody1_i386.deb (The problem is suexec, although I don't see any notes about suexec changes between 1.3.28-4 and 1.3.29-1.) -- Bill Moseley [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: .db files
On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 12:20:35 +, amit tiwari wrote: hi i have come to know through google will u pls tell me how to open .db files $ cat foo.db $ vim foo.db $ less foo.db What do you want to do with it? Also, what *type* of file is it? Note that *type* and *name* are two independent properties of a file. Name is merely that - the name. The type is an abstraction of the structure of the contents. Certain file types have conventions for the names, solely to aid human observers, but the name does not indicate the type. (Even windows people ought to know that by now with the number of exploits they receive via email and the www) -D -- GUIs normally make it simple to accomplish simple actions and impossible to accomplish complex actions. --Doug Gwyn (22/Jun/91 in comp.unix.wizards) www: http://dman13.dyndns.org/~dman/jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: finding what is using a mount point
Micha Feigin wrote: I mounted an image through a loop interface and now when I try to unload it I get a message: umount: /home/micha/tmp: device is busy I made sure no file is open from there but nothing helps. How do I see what is using that mount point? The 'fuser' command. fuser -m /home/micha/tmp Very useful. Bob pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: (unofficial) Debian project list status
On (25/11/03 02:48), Karsten M. Self wrote: I've been lurking on the #debian-devel IRC channel, some info on lists. This is an unofficial informational posting. If you weren't already aware, several Debian project servers were compromised by what appears to have been a password capture through one of the Debian Developers. This includes murphy, the listserver. Debian archives do _not_ appear to have been compromised. More details will be forthcoming through official sources. - Lists are processing again. - There's an adminstrative hold on messages posted between when the lists went down and were brought up again. Depending on your timezone -- late Thursday the 20th through late Monday the 24th. If you desperately need to see your message(s) posted, you might resubmit. Expect some out-of-order delivery for a while. - There was a postfix upgrade which may be related to the above. - Things may be a little shakey for a few days yet, so be patient. Systems are being rebuilt from scratch, developers are resetting passwords and ssh access, and a lot of people are checking personal and project systems. Pascal Hakim (listmaster for the Debian project) may have more to say but is holding off until he can speak more authoritatively (I've clearly got no such scruples). Overall the response and speed of disclosure by the Debian project team is commendable. For updates: Back online, with informational links. http://www.debian.org/ Out-of-band information on the exploit, affected systems, cleanup/detection procedures, http://www.wiggy.net/debian/ Major informational sites: http://slashdot.org/ http://lwn.net/ http://www.sourceforge.net/ IRC: *READ THE TOPIC BEFORE ASKING QUESTIONS! /please irc://irc.debian.org/#debian irc://irc.freenode.net/#debian You might want to check that you're subscribed to debian-announce and/or debian-security-announce. Some notifications were posted to these lists before murphy went down, not all subscribers saw these apparently. Again, this is unofficial, though I've had some dd's look over the bullet points above. Thought it would be useful to subscribers. Thanks Karsten There didn't seem to be much news available other than the story dated 21 Nov on slashdot. The weekend was something of a black hole ;) Regards Clive -- http://www.clivemenzies.co.uk strategies for business -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: *plonk* Re: Code of Conduct (was Re: Totally [OT] Re: Opium)
On November 21, 2003 at 7:27PM +0800, David Palmer. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:24:16 + ben [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:50:09 -0800 Karsten M. Self [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 04:49:14AM +, ben ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 13:23:48 +0800 csj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:54:17 -0800, Karsten M. Self wrote: on Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 09:19:48AM +0800, csj ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 08:48:14 -0800, Karsten M. Self wrote: Karsten and Colin are two completely different individuals, their approach to a situation is therefore also going to be individually different. This goes without saying. We're not clones. If we have individuals here who feel a requirement to totally usurp the situation for their own personal needs, then obviously they are in the wrong place. I don't think there were individuals who wanted to usurp the list. Their usurpation was a product of their combined postings. It's like a riot that gets started because two bar patrons bumped into each other, started hitting, and because they were fighting in a crowded room, started hitting others, who started hitting back. With two individuals in a situation, one personality does not predominate, there is an interaction involved. One factor is Karstens' manner, but the other is your perception of it. The vocal personalities involved at the moment, have a completely different reaction to Karsten than I do. I don't mind a bit of straight talk. As far as I'm concerned there isn't enough of it in the world, and considering that there were more than 'one and a half' personalities still involved in the situation after Colins' request for 'moderation', perhaps there is a place for a manner that has the ability to cut through in situations of persistent idiocy. Then the mass-emailing shouldn't have been used. The private emails should have been sent to the recalcitrant individuals. Even in such case, the emails should have phrased with a bit more care. I don't mind straight talk when it comes to talk. Unfortunately you can't convey the nuances of speech in a one-sentence email, especially in a list that isn't limited to native speakers of the language. (This after isn't debian-user-us or debian-user-uk. Maybe it's really time for another poster's debian-user-world suggestion.) I'm not saying that the thread didn't have some excellent material, I'm saying that it had deteriorated, as I have said in a previous post, into a load of drivel. Agreed. I got an email from Karsten, not the first one I've received from him either, but I didn't feel challenged by it. I woke up, wandered out, half asleep, clicked on send/receive, and Karstens' fist leapt out of the screen and smashed me in the face. It woke me up, set me up for the day. It smashed into me as well. Guess what? It had a different effect on me. To paraprhase your opening paragraph, our reactions to the situation became individually different. Which is why I insist the direct email was wrong. It was not written with concern for those who might take it the wrong way. A private email to an individual has greater power than a public posting. And, to borrow the words of the great Spiderman, with greater power comes greater responsibility. This world is full of different kinds of people, that's one of the many interesting aspects of it. Leave Karsten alone. He's got his own kind of value. I just wish he'd take into account the values of people from cultures where straight talk isn't necessarily the most effective form of communication. Don't worry Karsten, you've got back-up. I'm sure there's no plot to get Karsten. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Asus A7N8X Deluxe and Debian?
On 21 Nov 2003 at 11:05, John Peter wrote: Roberto is right - don't let yourself be intimidated with it ! Put everything on paper and follow the guide step by step, you will succed and it's not that hard - it just seems so... Don't forget to unninstall and clean everything you did before, not to mess things up. Good luck Well, before the suggestion came up to compile 2.4.22, I attempted to switch to 2.4.18, and now she won't boot up on her Linux side without the rescue disk. After sleeping on it, I think I am going to go ahead and start from scratch, now that I have a better grep on the process. Once I get the basic system up and running, I will then attempt to compile and install 2.4.22. The other reason I am going to start over is because I am hoping to eventually start deploying Debian-based systems and networks for low to middle income families and small businesses; as my way of promoting Linux and Open Source software. So that being the case, starting over will be the best way for me to document my own installation process step by step so that i can eventually get these systems up and running as smoothly as I can do a Windows98-Lite system. --Alt-Boundary-19047.43714910-- Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now
Woody on Sparc
I could install woody on a dual cpu SparcStation20. Everything is working fine except X. For the xserver, I tried fbdev, sunfbdev, suncg3, suncg14 in 8, 16 and 24 bit depths. Every time startx fails. Searched the archives and googled. Could not find much info on getting X on such a machine. If anyone on the list is using such a machine with Woody and has got X running on it, can he/she post the instructions? Regards, -- Sridhar M.A.GPG KeyID : F0225B2C Fingerprint: F7CC 61A8 C6C1 D29C 2863 4E20 8A78 A19D F022 Money is a powerful aphrodisiac. But flowers work almost as well. -- Lazarus Long pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: apt-get update not working properly 11/21/03
On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 10:41:23 -0600, red [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: All, Im getting this from many of my my deb boxen any ideas? ..it has been shut down on suspicion of a dns crack attempt, see the www.debian.org thread. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;-) ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: finding what is using a mount point
On Fri, Nov 21, 2003 at 03:43:49PM +0200, Micha Feigin wrote: I mounted an image through a loop interface and now when I try to unload it I get a message: umount: /home/micha/tmp: device is busy I made sure no file is open from there but nothing helps. How do I see what is using that mount point? /usr/sbin/lsof | grep micha/tmp HTH -- Joachim Fahnenmüller # Hi! I'm a .signature virus. Copy me into # your ~/.signature to help me spread! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
.note.GNU-stack in XFree86.0.log file
Hi XFree86 version is 4.2.1-14 (apt-cache show xserver-xfree86); I use NVIDIA's installer for my graphics card rather than the nv driver. /var/log/XFree86.0.log shows [snip] XFree86 Version 4.2.1.1 (Debian 4.2.1-14 20031113215638 [EMAIL PROTECTED]) / X Window System (protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6600) Release Date: 18 October 2002 (II) Loader running on linux (II) LoadModule: bitmap (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libbitmap.a Not loading .note.GNU-stack ... [snip] (II) LoadModule: pcidata (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libpcidata.a Not loading .note.GNU-stack (II) Module pcidata: vendor=The XFree86 Project compiled for 4.2.1.1, module version = 0.1.0 ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.5 [snip] (II) LoadModule: scanpci (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libscanpci.a Not loading .note.GNU-stack [snip] (II) LoadModule: ddc (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libddc.a Not loading .note.GNU-stack Not loading .note.GNU-stack Not loading .note.GNU-stack Not loading .note.GNU-stack Not loading .note.GNU-stack Not loading .note.GNU-stack Not loading .note.GNU-stack (II) Module ddc: vendor=The XFree86 Project compiled for 4.2.1.1, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.5 (II) LoadModule: dbe (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdbe.a Not loading .note.GNU-stack Not loading .note.GNU-stack Not loading .note.GNU-stack (II) Module dbe: vendor=The XFree86 Project compiled for 4.2.1.1, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: XFree86 Server Extension ABI class: XFree86 Server Extension, version 0.1 (II) Loading extension DOUBLE-BUFFER (II) LoadModule: extmod (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libextmod.a Not loading .note.GNU-stack [snip] (II) Module extmod: vendor=The XFree86 Project compiled for 4.2.1.1, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: XFree86 Server Extension ABI class: XFree86 Server Extension, version 0.1 (II) Loading extension SHAPE [snip] (II) Loading extension GLX (II) LoadModule: record (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/librecord.a Not loading .note.GNU-stack [snip] (II) LoadModule: freetype (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libfreetype.a Not loading .note.GNU-stack [snip] (II) Loading font FreeType (II) LoadModule: speedo (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libspeedo.a Not loading .note.GNU-stack ... etc. I've googled '.note.GNU-stack' (there's a bit of an explanation sort of at http://www.linuxsir.org/postnuke/print.php?sid=1435) but what's it doing in the log file? Jonathan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What up with www.debian.org ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 21 November 2003 09:33, Raghavendra Bhat wrote: Maybe the first thing you should do is to downgrade all the upgraded packages to stable/woody. Backup critical data and wait! Let us hear the extent of damage and then proceed forward. How do you downgrade packages? - -- John L. Fjellstad web: http://www.fjellstad.org/ Quis custodiet ipsos custodes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAj++ajAACgkQkz0vhQtHHRiZ7gCg3C2fvcLGAqitfZBeGWAbJV38 +5EAn3Dg884RFYeYxZVR/NsAWigjZ2jz =Y0gY -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Experiment: Neophyte versus Windows XP Debian Woody
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 20 November 2003 16:16, John Cichy wrote: This is when you find something that you need to run on your RPM based system, you download the RPM and attempt to install it, only to find out you need another RPM (actually a lib from another RPM) you search for the required RPM and download it and attempt the install, only to find out you need another RPM (actually a lib from another RPM) you search for the the required RPM and download it and attempt the install, only to find ... Didn't the rpm people already solve this with up2date, and whatever Mandrake and SuSe is using. There is even an apt-rpm port. - -- John L. Fjellstad web: http://www.fjellstad.org/ Quis custodiet ipsos custodes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAj++sL0ACgkQkz0vhQtHHRhvIACdHrEgekyWEP5N1LLEQldHRdMK uD0An2EDHqhmUOkT8RyYuKcLhrGsbwnV =b/fp -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Learning debian Linux
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 20 November 2003 22:36, sda wrote: Actually I don't think it's hard at all, remember, many 1st timers haven't installed anything before. Most consumers don't ever install a Windoze OS, they buy it pre-installed. I think it's more of an issue of newbies, not knowing how to install *any* operating system. It is hard, because presume that you know more about your systems than most people do, again dselect is not easy (you can avoid it now, but you couldn't when I started out). Yep, that's why I recommended another Debian distro, specifically for newbies. ;) I don't think we're doing anyone a favour by recommending Mandrake, who knows how long they'll be around? One can only be a for profit corporation and beg for $ for so long, before investors bail. You know, Debian users need to get over this commercial distribution fobia. You are all on the same side. I haven't been reading this list for a couple of months now, and when I signed up again, the first thing I read is another rant about RedHat. It's getting pretty boring. Debian works for me. For other people, Mandrake, or SuSe, or RedHat or Slackware, or Knoopix, or Gentoo might be better. I don't bother them about their choice, but try to be a good Linux user to them. And I try to recommend distribution depending on what they want to do with their system and how comfortable they are with computers. Remember, it's libre not gratis. - -- John L. Fjellstad web: http://www.fjellstad.org/ Quis custodiet ipsos custodes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAj++r7QACgkQkz0vhQtHHRhqWACeLAwCBhoVHmq88VeW2OtFCo+V M8sAnioOjsK9yb/Sp4zxXH2hSfJvI6zX =v4yI -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: evolution usability (somewhat OT)
On Fri, Nov 21, 2003 at 12:27:54AM -0800, Erik Steffl wrote: On Thu, 2003-11-20 at 22:50, David Palmer. wrote: On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 14:58:24 -0800 Erik Steffl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (unstable debian, evolution) I find evolution to be fairly nice MUA but: - is there a way for it to move deleted mails to trash? - is there a way for it not to show deleted emails (it shows them striked out) Hello Erik, Go to the 'view' menu, and click 'hide deleted messages.' That will solve your first two points. they don't seem to go to trash (I would like the emails from IMAP server go to trash on the same server, just like it can be set in mozilla) Shift-delete seems to do this for me. HTH, Bec -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Need a user-friendly, low-requirement desktop
- Original Message - From: Ilkka Lindroos [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 9:13 AM Subject: Re: Need a user-friendly, low-requirement desktop On Tuesday 25 November 2003 13:58, Alex Malinovich wrote: In this particular case, however, I'm dealing with a Pentium 233 MHz with 32 MB of RAM. While I'd love to put Gnome and Nautilus on there and call it a day, waiting 10 minutes for the desktop to load and another 2 minutes for the file-manager just won't cut it I'm afraid. I gave my old computer (P200, 32MB) to my brother, who had no experience with computers. I installed XFCE 3 and he's been very happy with that. I don't know if XFCE 4 needs more memory, but i doubt it. XFCE comes with filemanager (very fast) etc. My main desktop is an old PII, 266Mhz and it does very well with KDE and all the goodies. I haven't installed Debian on it, but had good success with Mandrake and SuSE. I DID however, increase memory from 92MB to 384MB. That made a great difference. If you can add more memory beyond the 32MB already in there, you'll notice a big improvement. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
woody vs. raid array
i've managed to get an actual budget to put together a woody server with a real raid -- and of course, it's not going smoothly. athlon xp 1800+ 768mb eec-registered ddr ram dual 160gb (western digital, 7200rpm) drives, raid1 (mirror) fasttrak100 lite yet, during startup from the woody iso (which is exactly the same as what i get when booting the 2.4.21-pre3 fd .bin image i got from http://ttul.org/~rrsadler/linux-promise/ ) i see in dmesg that Promise Fasttrak(tm) Software raid driver is loaded and being tested, but not finding any raid arrays: Promise Fasttrak(tm) Softwareraid driver 0.03beta: No raid array found Highpoint HPT370 Softwareraid driver for linux version 0.01 No raid array found snip md: linear personality registered as nr 1 md: raid0 personality registered as nr 2 md: raid1 personality registered as nr 3 md: raid5 personality registered as nr 4 raid5: measuring checksumming speed snip md: multipath personality registered as nr 7 md: md driver 0.90.0 MAX_MD_DEVS=256, MD_SB_DISKS=27 md: Autodetecting RAID arrays. md: autorun ... md: ... autorun DONE. snip i noticed that the instructions at http://ttul.org/~rrsadler/linux-promise/ mention the FastTrak TX2000 Ultra ATA/133 UDMA RAID Card (the 133) whereas mine is the fastrak100 lite... is that a significant difference? at bootup, after DEL is no longer an option, ^F gets me into the raid configuration area, before the lilo boot (whether from cd or floppy) and all seems healthy, there. when i boot the boot-floppies (which, like the cd-rom, also apologize for being called boot floppies :) all seems smooth sailing until partition hard disk which lists only /dev/hdc and /dev/hda; these appear to be the two drives composing the raid array. each worked fine plugged in as a sole ide-drive; complete install went like a dream -- without the raid setup, of course. now it's supposed to be under /dev/ataraid/d0, but cfdisk (alt-f2 to get to a command line from the install console) says Cannot open disk drive. what tests can i make to pin down what's stuck? == note -- all these log entries are re-keyed, of course, since i can't get the raid system up and running. two keyboards, two monitors, two hands :), two disks, no raid :( == i found the above resources at http://colby.tjs.org/~brendandg/promise-ft66-howto/howto.html -- I use Debian/GNU Linux version 3.0; Linux boss 2.4.18-bf2.4 #1 Son Apr 14 09:53:28 CEST 2002 i586 unknown DEBIAN NEWBIE TIP #4 from Will Trillich [EMAIL PROTECTED] : Want to know WHAT FILES ARE PROVIDED BY PACKAGE x-y-z? This is a job for dpkg: enter dpkg -L package-name at the command prompt. Try dpkg -L netbase | pager for example. Also see http://newbieDoc.sourceForge.net/ ... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mutt - saving message to disk (not mail folder)
scripsit Pete Harlan: On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 08:37:29PM +, p wrote: On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 09:22:01PM +0200, Micha Feigin wrote: How do I save a mail message to disk with mutt? I want to save it to disk, not another mail folder (saving to a different mail folder appears quite clearly in the docs but couldn't find save to disk). [snip] | cat [file name] Does that differ from 's' (save), then entering the filename? (Besides the fact that will overwrite an existing file while 's' will append, and the fact that 's' will mark the mail for deletion (use 'C' instead of 's', I believe, if you don't want that.)) `s' creates a mailbox, which adds control headers. In the case of your post, the new headers are (after all other headers, before the body): ] Status: RO ] Content-Length: 950 ] Lines: 30 If I pipe to cat, those added headers are removed. -- Pax vobiscum; pax cum omnibus. Thanasis Kinias tkinias at asu.edu Doctoral Student, Department of History Arizona State University Tempe, Arizona, U.S.A. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apt-get update not working properly 11/21/03
On Fri, November 21 at 10:41 AM EST red [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All, Im getting this from many of my my deb boxen any ideas? Err http://non-us.debian.org unstable/non-US/contrib Release Could not connect to non-us.debian.org:80 (194.109.137.218). - connect (111 Connection refused) Err http://security.debian.org stable/updates/contrib Packages Could not connect to security.debian.org:80 (194.109.137.218). - connect (111 Connection refused) Err http://non-us.debian.org unstable/non-US/non-free Packages Could not connect to non-us.debian.org:80 (194.109.137.218). - connect (111 Connection refused) Err http://security.debian.org stable/updates/contrib Release Could not connect to security.debian.org:80 (194.109.137.218). - connect (111 Connection refused) Err http://non-us.debian.org unstable/non-US/non-free Release Could not connect to non-us.debian.org:80 (194.109.137.218). - connect (111 Connection refused) Err http://security.debian.org stable/updates/non-free Packages Could not connect to security.debian.org:80 (194.109.137.218). - connect (111 Connection refused) Err http://non-us.debian.org unstable/non-US/main Sources Could not connect to non-us.debian.org:80 (194.109.137.218). - connect (111 Connection refused) Err http://security.debian.org stable/updates/non-free Release Could not connect to security.debian.org:80 (194.109.137.218). - connect (111 Connection refused) Err http://non-us.debian.org unstable/non-US/main Release Could not connect to non-us.debian.org:80 (194.109.137.218). - connect (111 Connection refused) Err http://non-us.debian.org unstable/non-US/contrib Sources Could not connect to non-us.debian.org:80 (194.109.137.218). - connect (111 Connection refused) Err http://non-us.debian.org unstable/non-US/contrib Release Could not connect to non-us.debian.org:80 (194.109.137.218). - connect (111 Connection refused) Err http://non-us.debian.org unstable/non-US/non-free Sources Could not connect to non-us.debian.org:80 (194.109.137.218). - connect (111 Connection refused) Err http://non-us.debian.org unstable/non-US/non-free Release Could not connect to non-us.debian.org:80 (194.109.137.218). - connec I would think that box would be redundant ? am I wrong? Thanks red I am getting the same from security.debian.org Err http://security.debian.org woody/updates/main Packages Could not connect to security.debian.org:80 (194.109.137.218). - connect (111 Connection refused) You're saying it only happens on some of your computers but not others? Shawn Lamson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Woody on Sparc
I could install woody on a dual cpu SparcStation20. Everything is working fine except X. For the xserver, I tried fbdev, sunfbdev, suncg3, suncg14 in 8, 16 and 24 bit depths. Every time startx fails. Searched the archives and googled. Could not find much info on getting X on such a machine. If anyone on the list is using such a machine with Woody and has got X running on it, can he/she post the instructions? Regards, -- Sridhar M.A.GPG KeyID : F0225B2C Fingerprint: F7CC 61A8 C6C1 D29C 2863 4E20 8A78 A19D F022 Money is a powerful aphrodisiac. But flowers work almost as well. -- Lazarus Long Can you attach the XFree86.log file (/var/log), or just grep it for EE and WW at it and paste it here? Bojan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Xfree86 and a Matrox G550
On 21 Nov 2003, James Hosken wrote: Hi Has any one had experience of installing Debian with a Matrox G550 Graphics Card? I've just installed Woody and XFree86 will not work. I've found some drivers at matrox.com, http://matrox.com/mga/support/drivers/latest/home.cfm They say that you need the kernel 2.4, so I upgraded to that OK. But when I run the matrox driver install script it say it can't find X (sorry I don't have the full error message) On the XFree website it says that the G550 is supported under 4.3.0 http://the.earth.li/XFree86/current/Status18.html#18 I'm new to Debian and I really don't know what to do from here. Please can any one help? Thanks in advance James I have one of these cards and it is working perfectly with the 4.2.x series of X. As Christian Schnobrich says, you don't need the Matrox proprietary drivers for routine operation and in fact one of them does something funny with the mouse pointer so you're better off with the driver included with X. Your /etc/X11/XF86Config file should contain the following: Section Device Identifier Matrox G550 Driver mga I found I had to comment out 'Load glx in the Modules section, otherwise X wouldn't run. I tried to get this working without success, but I didn't bother much because I don't play games. Anthony -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]|| http://www.acampbell.org.uk using Linux GNU/Debian || for book reviews, electronic Windows-free zone || books and skeptical articles -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X Won't Start
On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 07:44:14 -0600, Kent West wrote: Mark Healey wrote: On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 21:13:24 -0600, Kent West wrote: Mark Healey wrote: My X won't work with the default installation. snippage here and elsewhere Someone Suggested that I boot knoppix and copy /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 from there to my hd and reboot. I did that. X started but with no mouse movement. Just a cursor. Get out of X11 to a plain text screen. Since X won't start that isn't a problem. Move the mouse. Do you see a white cursor block moving around on the screen? No. If you do, then you have gpm installed/running. If not, then no gpm. Appearantly I have no gpm. I was surprised when I had no text mode mouse but figured that it was something I could use. Is this somethihg I might be able to install? Yes. apt-get install gpm. Did that, still no cursor. Mark Healey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Don't bothor CCing or emailing this address. Since spammers seem to be harvesting this list anything that doesn't come from the list server is assumed to be spam and deleted. ASUS A87V8X mobo w AMD Athalon Broadcom 4401 onboard nic with static IP Address ATI All-In-Wonder 9700 Video card. Sampo Alphascan 17mx monitor -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apt-get etiquette
RichardA [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm a Mandrake user hoping to trade up. As such, I expect to break my install beyond my capacity to fix it at least a few times. Does it matter that I upgrade from stable to unstable, and pull many packages from the server, each time? Is there a (n easy) way to use a local cache? I've never worried about it terribly. It probably is reasonably important that you find a local mirror; there's a list at http://www.debian.org/mirrors/list. If you were configuring dozens of machines at once you might find it more convenient to set of a local mirror of the Debian archive, or use something like a Squid caching proxy. But for one machine that you'll install a few times, it's probably more trouble than it's worth. (FWIW, my impression has been that people rarely need to install the world multiple times on the same machine. If you're really set on going straight to unstable, you also might consider testing the debian-installer release candidate, though I don't have a pointer to it handy at the moment.) Once up and running, how often should I update? Every night? I generally update my unstable machines daily, yeah, for both the latest features and the latest bugs. -- David Maze [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://people.debian.org/~dmaze/ Theoretical politics is interesting. Politicking should be illegal. -- Abra Mitchell -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apt-get etiquette
On Fri, Nov 21, 2003 at 10:56:50PM +, RichardA said I'm a Mandrake user hoping to trade up. As such, I expect to break my install beyond my capacity to fix it at least a few times. Does it matter that I upgrade from stable to unstable, Well, unstable does break, and you need to know how to use the basic tools to fix it: dpkg, ar, apt, sometimes even editing the maintainer scripts in /var/lib/dpkg/info/ (carefully!). and pull many packages from the server, each time? if you mean will upgrading lots of packages at once increase the chance of things breaking horribly?, then not really. Is there a (n easy) way to use a local cache? apt-proxy works well enough, most of the time. Once up and running, how often should I update? Every night? Depends on how often you can be bothered to sit through a dist-upgrade. I find I only bother every few weeks, nowadays, unless there's something I really want right away, or some serious bug has been fixed. -- Rob Weir [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Do I look like I want a CC? Words of the day: unclassified Ermes class struggle Hacker SCUD missile signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: finding what is using a mount point
Micha Feigin [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003:11:21:15:43:49+0200] scribed: I mounted an image through a loop interface and now when I try to unload it I get a message: umount: /home/micha/tmp: device is busy I made sure no file is open from there but nothing helps. How do I see what is using that mount point? # dpkg -S /usr/bin/lsof lsof: /usr/bin/lsof -- Best Regards, mds mds resource 877.596.8237 - Dare to fix things before they break . . . - Our capacity for understanding is inversely proportional to how much we think we know. The more I know, the more I know I don't know . . . -- pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Segmentation Faults and Paging Errors
The problem: Intermittent kernel paging errors, errors during shutdown which result in boot to runlevel 1 on reboot. After a second shutdown the system reboots properly. My system - testing with a 2.4.22 kernel - was stable, no problems whatsoever. Wishing to take advantage of USB 2, I downloaded the source and built kernel-2.6.0-test9. With this kernel I was unable to access my Netgear MA311 PCI Adapter. To solve this I downloaded and installed linux-wlan-ng-0.2.1-pre14 from the tarball. At this point I began to have problems - segmentation faults - so I tried to go back to my original setup. In /usr/src I have the following directories: linux kernel-source-2.4.22 kernel-source-2.6.0-test9 linux-wlan-ng-0.1.16-pre10 linux-wlan-ng-0.2.1-pre14 In directory linux-wlan-ng-0.1.16-pre10 I ran make mrproper make config(choosing the pci option and pointing it at the kernel-source-2.4.22 directory) make all make install and rebooted with the 2.4.22 kernel. I thought this should restore the original stable operation but it hasn't. To confuse the issue, during this period I ran a dist-upgrade of the testing distribution. At this time it is fullly up-to-date. Is it something I ate - i.e. the result of the dist-upgrade (I understand thatthe testing distribution is not guaranteed to be stable) or a problem introduced by linux-wlan-ng-0.2.1-pre14? If the latter, why hasn't the return to the 2.4.22 kernel and the linux-wlan-ng-0.1.16-pre10 setup corrected the problem? Tom -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Keine Umlaute auf der Konsole
This will install too many unneeded packages. I do not want to have german stuff (docs etc.), just want my umlauts to be displayed on the console. On my pc it helped to set convert-meta on in inputrc. This basically turns on 8-bit characters on the console. For more info see man 3 readline. HTH Johannes -- More than machinery we need humanity -- Charlie Chaplin, The Great Dictator pgp0.pgp Description: signature
Re: cdrom
on Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 09:46:05PM +0100, Jose Colmenares ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I have a HP Pentium I. The cdrom sudenly stopped working, and I replaced it for an used one (wich worked just fine). As it turns out, the cdrom I just installed isn´t working either... I get a message like: /dev/cdrom/ is a bad block device The cdrom was working just fine. I brought it home and conected it to the PI, and now is dead. It won't even boot. I checked the conections, and they seem to be well. it won't boot, or mount. ¿what could the cause of the trouble be? I'm a newbe to linux (have been using it for about a month) and have no idea of what to do. Please set your mailer/editor linewrap to 68-75 characters. I strongly recommend 72 as a good default. Thank you. Check the file /dev/cdrom and what sort of file it is. It *should* be a symbolic link pointing to your real cdrom device file (/dev/hdc or /dev/hdb, most likely). An 'ls -l' should show something like: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 2003-03-28 11:16 /dev/cdrom - hdc Note the initial l and the - pointing to hdc. /dev/hdc, in my case, is a character block device, major number 22, minor 0: brw-rw 1 root cdrom 22, 0 2002-03-14 13:51 /dev/hdc If you don't have an equivalent device file: $ sudo bash -l # cd /dev/ # ./MAKEDEV hdc # Or appropriate device file # ln -sf hdc cdrom # Or appropriate device file Peace. -- Karsten M. Self [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What Part of Gestalt don't you understand? George W. is deceptive to be sure. Dissembling, too. And let's not forget deceitful. He is lacking veracity and frankness, and void of sooth, though seemingly sincere in his proclivity for pretense. But he did not lie. http://www.jointhebushwhackers.com/not_a_liar.cfm pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Learning debian Linux
You know, Debian users need to get over this commercial distribution fobia. You are all on the same side. I haven't been reading this list for a couple of months now, and when I signed up again, the first thing I read is another rant about RedHat. It's getting pretty boring. Debian works for me. For other people, Mandrake, or SuSe, or RedHat or Slackware, or Knoopix, or Gentoo might be better. I don't bother them about their choice, but try to be a good Linux user to them. And I try to recommend distribution depending on what they want to do with their system and how comfortable they are with computers. Remember, it's libre not gratis. Well put. When I first starting using Linux, a friend of mine helped me install debian. I don't want to necessarily say it was a huge mistake, but it was at the time. Because Debian was so damned hard to use and there was not a good office program (OOo was pre-1.0 and the filters sucked), I ended up back with Win98, then 2k, and finally XP. Last year, I finally had the time and resources to play with Linux again and built myself a box, finally installing Mandrake. Why Mandrake? It was an easy install to get me where I needed to be. When I started playing with and tweaking, Mandrake wasn't enough and I harkened back to those few months when I actually had debian working and remembered how easy it was to upgrade/update and tweak. I installed debian and have loved it ever since. About 6 months ago, I obtained a laptop and put Mandrake on it, again, because it was easy and I was unsure of the laptop. Because I was used to the debian way, I hated Mandrake, but it was an easy install. I got so fed up one day that I popped in a Knoppix CD. I thought about my options and did an HD install on a 4 gb partition (on a 10 GB hdd), leaving /home/ intact and formatting a couple of other partitions. When Knoppix rebooted, I moved /home/ back to it's previous partition, set up /var/ and then uninstalled all the crap that said knoppix- or knx-. It wasn't easy, I ended up having to copy a file from my Linux box and putting it in place by hand. Total time to install/de-knoppix-ize: about 2.5 hours. Bonus: everything was configured. Double bonus: I had a debian system (which, I will say, still would not be properly configured). The point, you ask? There are multiple ways of going about things. Mandrake is still Linux, and for newbies, Mandrake, SuSE, or RedHat are really the only way to go. What do I envision as the next step? Managing to get knoppix on a harddrive and then remove all the knoppix/knx packages (which are good for a CD distro, not for a hd install). Actually, when I purchase a new laptop in a few months, that's what I intend to do. I'll be damned if it's not easy. And really, to get Linux on a desktop, we don't need more packages, we need easier setup and configuration. In my experience, that's where Mandrake and Knoppix far exceed a traditional boot floppy or debian cd install. If the individual has progressed in their Linux experience to a point where they are comfortable setting up everything using dpkg or by hand, then that's fine. But, most of us don't have that time or knowledge. That's why Mandrake exists and so many people use it. Peace, DAVE -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: unsubscribe
On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 10:23:40 -0200 Cassio Druziani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [Some dumb unnecessary quoting, including THIS:] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] How did you subscribe without being able to READ? -- Got Backup? Jabber: Shadowdancer at jabber.fsinf.de pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: running script from cdrom fails
on Fri, Nov 21, 2003 at 03:58:43PM +0200, Micha Feigin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: When I try to run shell scripts from cdrom I get the following message: bash: ./INSTALLDOCS.SH: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Permission denied I got this with several bash scripts and in fact, I don't remmember one that did work. Any idea? Is the CDROM mounted noexec? 'mount' and look at the options for your CDROM device. Peace. -- Karsten M. Self [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What Part of Gestalt don't you understand? Life is pain, Highness. Anyone who says differently is selling something. - Princess Bride pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: finding what is using a mount point
On Fri, Nov 21, 2003 at 03:43:49PM +0200, Micha Feigin wrote: I mounted an image through a loop interface and now when I try to unload it I get a message: umount: /home/micha/tmp: device is busy I made sure no file is open from there but nothing helps. How do I see what is using that mount point? Try this to see who is using that directory: # lsof | grep '/home/micha/tmp' -marc -- Marc Nozell [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.nozell.com/blog -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CTRL+ALT+Backspace will kill the X-server
John Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Or, if you want to get X out of the way, edit /etc/inittab , look for the lines : # The default runlevel. id:2:initdefault: and replace the runlevel 2 with 1. ...which will also conveniently stop your Web server, your ssh server, your power-management daemon, your print system, multiple console logins, and so on. Far less brutal to just remove the /etc/rc2.d/S99xdm link. -- David Maze [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://people.debian.org/~dmaze/ Theoretical politics is interesting. Politicking should be illegal. -- Abra Mitchell -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Debian and Ultra Ata 133 Controller
I want to install Debian on a Harddisc, which is plugged into an Ata 133 Controller. Unfortunately the installation program doesn't recognize the disc and asks for a floppy with additional drivers in directory boot... Any hints? regards Stefan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CTRL+ALT+Backspace will kill the X-server
On November 21, 2003 at 8:13AM +0800, Dan Jacobson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: is that the usual way to get rid of X windows if in case one wants just to use the humble console? I know there is a startx program, but no stopx. Preston CTRL+ALT+Backspace will kill the X-server. Indeed it does, with no questions asked. But then it just springs back to life again, with a login prompt (at least with xdm here). Let's pretend my monitor is being borrowed for a few days and being replaced by a VT100, and I want to properly end all X processes and revert to plain tty mode, without rebooting or editing any files. The stop xdm. At least with gdm, I can do /etc/init.d gdm stop. Doesn't xdm have a file in /etc/init.d? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: www.debian.org
Replying to the message sent by Lukas Ruf on Fri, 21 Nov 2003 14:44:21 +0100, received at 15:58:11 on 21/11/2003. Lukas Ruf wrote: snip If I may kindly ask you to set the line-length to 72 characters... Done -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: *plonk* Re: Code of Conduct (was Re: Totally [OT] Re: Opium)
On November 20, 2003 at 8:50PM -0800, Karsten M. Self [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 04:49:14AM +, ben ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 13:23:48 +0800 csj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 19:54:17 -0800, Karsten M. Self wrote: on Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 09:19:48AM +0800, csj ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 08:48:14 -0800, Karsten M. Self wrote: [...] As several (in or out of the) closet anarchists have replied that self-control is apparently beyond their mein, I'll remind them that consequences for actions are also their responsibility. Including finding themselves ignored by those who value s over n. while some of us may have got carried away on the exuberance of our collective velocity, where colin requested that the thread be closed, i think that there were only one or two respondents who failed to respect that request. karsten's manner, on the other hand, comes across as an order, I'd individually contacted most (all I could find) participants of the thread, after it had persisted for several days. Contacting the participants individually was wrong insofar as the off-topicality was the product of all the amusing, analytic, angry, perhaps even anarchistic posts of list members who, I'm sure, didn't plan on wreaking collective havoc. Saying participants makes it sound as if there was a conspiracy of some sort. Most of these either didn't respond (but ceased posting to the thread) or replied apologetically. I suspect most of them were responding to Colin Watson's public request. Several disputed the basis of my request. Which is: - List charter: Help and discussion among users of Debian. - Code of conduct: Speaking for myself, I disputed the means you employed, a direct email written with a curtness that sounded condescending (even if it wasn't). Colin's approach was better, even if the language was more brutal, shouting at the mob to stop. Think of it this way. When you emailed me, I'd thought I was being singled out. Nowhere in your first email did you mention that you contacted others. OTOH Colin's post managed to spread the blame so that nobody felt directly responsible for causing the riot. and, as such, is damn near guaranteed to raise the ire of anyone with a brain. particularly, comments such as the anarchist reference above are totally unwarranted Several of the individuals who chose to dispute (at length) my request with me made specific reference to anarchist principles. I'd recommend you speak of what you know. In this case, you are beyond your depth. This is what I do know. You emailed me the very day (given some allowance for the off-line time zone difference) I made two off-topic posts. I assumed you thought those two posts of mine were excessive and so thought you were being hypocritcal for having participated in other off-topic threads in the past. In a later email you claimed that you immediately took off-topic discussions off-list when requested. So would I, if requested. But your first email was more like a gag order: Could you please restrict your d-u postings to on-topic subjects? Am I being too harsh on that one sentence? Yes. Because that was the entire contents of your first email. You probably would have gotten a better response if the request came with an explanation about list etiquette and how world politics isn't really the subject of Debian User. Yes, people do have to be reminded from time to time not to cross when the light is red or not to smoke in a no-smoking area. Your explanation came later, when anger had taken possession of my keyboard. [...] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: www.debian.org
On Fri, Nov 21, 2003 at 01:22:27PM +0100, Lukas Ruf wrote: Cristi Banciu [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-11-21 13:17]: http://cert.uni-stuttgart.de/files/fw/debian-security-20031121.txt after having read: I have run upgrades on various machines this morning. Is there any chance that these machines have been compromised too? If you got security updates, maybe - from the txt you read: The archive is not affected by this compromise! In particular the following machines have been affected: ... . klecker (security, non-us, web search, www-master) -- Jon Dowland http://jon.dowland.name/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: running script from cdrom fails
On Fri, Nov 21, 2003 at 03:58:43PM +0200, Micha Feigin wrote: When I try to run shell scripts from cdrom I get the following message: bash: ./INSTALLDOCS.SH: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Permission denied I got this with several bash scripts and in fact, I don't remmember one that did work. Any idea? file permission does not include 'x' (executable)? cdrom mounted with 'noexec' option? HTH -- Joachim Fahnenmüller # Hi! I'm a .signature virus. Copy me into # your ~/.signature to help me spread! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Need a user-friendly, low-requirement desktop
Conrad Newton wrote: From Alex Malinovich on Tuesday, 2003-11-25 at 05:58:25 -0600: I've finally managed to get a few friends and family members with very little computer knowledge to switch to Linux. snip In this particular case, however, I'm dealing with a Pentium 233 MHz with 32 MB of RAM. While I'd love to put Gnome and Nautilus on there and call it a day, waiting 10 minutes for the desktop to load and another 2 minutes for the file-manager just won't cut it I'm afraid. Same specs as my old laptop. I would recommend icewm or xfce. icewm has a smaller footprint, plus in appearance it is more like windows, so maybe it is the best pick. I, too, like icewm. It's got the Windows-like taskbar at the bottom (or top, or hidden in either place) that shows the different apps you have running, so switching between them is easy. (You'll want the icepref package if you want to configure icewm, unless you want to tweak the config files manually.) There are three disadvantages to icewm: 1) The menus aren't drag-n-drop like with something like KDE's menus, so modifying the menus aren't as easy (icemenu might help). 2) No desktop icons without another package that provides that capability (actually, I'm not so sure this is a disadvantage). 3) No integrated file manager (again, I'm not so sure this is a disadvantage). -- Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: running script from cdrom fails
Micha Feigin [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-11-21 17:16]: When I try to run shell scripts from cdrom I get the following message: bash: ./INSTALLDOCS.SH: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Permission denied I got this with several bash scripts and in fact, I don't remmember one that did work. Any idea? Maybe the mount-options for your cdrom does not allow to execution. Try sh INSTALLDOCS.SH. wbr, Lukas -- Lukas Ruf | Wanna know anything about raw | http://www.lpr.ch | IP? - http://www.rawip.org | eMail Style Guide: http://www.rawip.org/style.html| -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Apt error in Debian/Sid with Python
Hello I have a Debian/Sid distrib and after an apt-update/apt-upgrade i`ve encounterred this error : Reading changelogs... (Reading database ... 26901 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to replace python 2.3.2-4 (using .../python_2.3.2-6_all.deb) ... Unpacking replacement python ... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/python_2.3.2-6_all.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite /usr/share/doc/python2.3/python-policy.html', which is also in package python2.3 dpkg: considering removing python in favour of python2.3 ... dpkg: no, cannot remove python (--auto-deconfigure will help): python-apt depends on python ( 2.4) python is to be removed. dpkg: regarding .../python2.3_2.3.2-6_i386.deb containing python2.3: python2.3 conflicts with python (= 2.3.2-5) python (version 2.3.2-4) is installed. dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/python2.3_2.3.2-6_i386.deb (--unpack): conflicting packages - not installing python2.3 Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/python_2.3.2-6_all.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/python2.3_2.3.2-6_i386.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) Someone knows what it means and how it could be solved ? Is this a bug ? TIA Cristian Stefan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RUS-CERT: Several Debian hosts compromised, archive not affected
http://cert.uni-stuttgart.de/files/fw/debian-security-20031121.txt [Note: The original announcement didn't have a GnuPG signature.] Why did the original announcement not have a GnuPG signature? Is no one else bothered by this? Why has there been no announcement on debian.org? -- To reply by email, replace deadspam.com by alumni.utexas.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xterm ignores Xresources when run as x-terminal-emulator
On Fri, Nov 21, 2003 at 02:32:36PM +0200, Micha Feigin wrote: | I set up some setting for xterm in .Xresources as | xterm.foreground=white | ... | when running xterm this works fine, when running x-terminal-emulater | when it is pointing to xterm this doesn't work and the same lines for | x-terminal-emulator doesn't seem to help. | how do I set the Xresources for x-terminal-emulator ? Use the right name. I don't recall where I read this (it's on my machine or the web somewhere) but the way Xresources work is as follows : First, resource names are case-sensitive. XTerm*VT100*background: black XTerm.VT100.background: black xterm*VT100*background: black XTerm refers to the widget type. xterm is the program name. '*' is a loose binding, '.' is a tight binding. (IIRC, but it may be the other way around) This is significant when items are nested. For example, if there was a foo component in between the XTerm component and the VT100 component, the second example above would apply only to the XTerm.VT100 component, not the XTerm.foo.VT100 component, however the loose binding in the first example would. Without seeing what you tried to set for the resources, I'd venture a guess that you used 'xterm' instead of 'XTerm' and that's why you're seeing different behavior when it is run in different ways. Note that that is a feature, not a bug. Perhaps you _want_ some aspect to differ, and these semantics with the X resources allows you to do that. HTH, -D -- Thy Word is a lamp unto my feet and a light unto my path. Psalms 119:105 www: http://dman13.dyndns.org/~dman/jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: pppd boring problem...
On Thu, 2003-11-20 at 12:03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I get this error after a while with pppd with persist option. I need to kill the pppd and restart it. Any hints would be welcome... Here is a more complete log... [...] Couldn't create new ppp unit: Inappropriate ioctl for device Google shows a lot of people having this problem with post 2.4.19 kernels but no solutions. You might want to harrass the kernel-list, the more noise they hear about it, the more likely someone is to do something about it. (But don't tell them I said that ;-) -- Mark Roach -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Learning debian Linux
On Thu, 2003-11-20 at 11:44, Clive Menzies wrote: On (20/11/03 10:42), Knut Willy wrote: I am a novice at Linux. Never used it, but want to teach myself. 1. Have a Windows-98 PC, which has internet connection. Do not intend to use Linux on this one. Afraid of having two operating systems on same machine. If you have a broadband connection and a enough disk space, installing a dual boot system will be much easier than trying to install the whole system via floppies. FWIW, I am relatively new to Linux and Debian (my first distro) and have installed dual booting systems on both Intel and Mac PC's. It is a steep learning curve but v satisfying. 2. Have a portable Compaq PC, (Windows-95) on which I intend to install Linux. This Compaq has no internet connection, no CD station. Only a A: station for 1,44 mb diskettes. I guess this is a fairly low spec machine; if you really want to use this one, installing an ethernet connection (if possible) would be a better way forward. Exactly. It's probably not worth the pain to copy the whole Debian stuff manually to your laptop.I'd try it the Debian way, which for me means trying to let the system do the work for me ... :) I'd firstly try to have an open Internet connection for the laptop. And then try to do the install via this Internet connection. Here is a Debian page telling about the floppies you might need: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch-install-methods.en.html#s-where-files Not being sure on that: I'd try it with the .../current/images-1.44/bf2.4/rescue.bin and .../current/images-1.44/bf2.4/root.bin You probably have to copy each of these files to a floppy, and IIRC: you boot the machine with the rescue.bin floppy (and later insert the root.bin one ...) You might need to read the docs on http://www.debian.org/distrib/floppyinst This will give you, AFAICS, an excellent introduction to what will be waiting for you if you decide to install Debian. I tell you very clearly: I don't like the docs on the pages I saw there, although in the end they might be able to help installing a Linux system: I don't think they're straight forward, and sometimes I think they're frustrating: For example, on this page: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch-rescue-boot.en.html#s-install-from-dos I read: Please note, there is currently a loadlin problem (#142421) which precludes install.bat from being used with the bf2.4 flavor. The symptom of the problem is an `invalid compressed format' error. with no explanation that I saw, on how to fix the problem (besides mentioning #142421 which seems to be related to a bug; but how can a Debian newbie know about this? ...). The basic Debian system was relatively easy to install for me on a powerpc ... the problems came later, when I tried to fine-tune the system I know a guy who's writing software for Linux: IIRC it took him about 6 months to fine-tune his latest Debian installation. Debian is a great system. The docs are sometimes not. HTH Best Regards, Wolfgang [ ... ] -- Profile, Links: http://profiles.yahoo.com/wolfgangpfeiffer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mutt and forwarded mail
Hey everyone, I have mail being bounced from my school account. However it is a dumb system and not easily configured. It's a First Class system, for those of you who know it. For those of you who don't--be grateful. My incoming mail from that address has the following headers: X-FC-AutoForward-By: Person [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: EmmaJane Hogbin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is it possible to have mutt read the X-FC-AutoForward-By: line instead of the From: line if the From: line is me? Or would it be something other than mutt that handled this for me? thanks, emma :) -- Emma Jane Hogbin [[ 416 417 2868 ][ www.xtrinsic.com ]] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Debian Wireless help...
I'm new to Debian and wireless networking at the same time. I've successfully installed Woody on my laptop, but I have yet to get the wlan-ng drivers to build. (Or build and install a kernel, for that matter -- something I consider routine on RH.) I'm hoping I'll have things sorted out by tomorrow night when I head out to the coffee house with my new WPC11v3. I doubt anyone at the coffee house knows their SSID or anything like that. Will I need any special tools to discover these things, or will it just work the way it apparently does in Windows? Here's a rundown of the problems I'm having: I tried using make-kpkg kernel-image. The resulting .deb contained the kernel but no modules. On subsequent attempts (with a freshly untarred source tree) I used the standard make dep/make clean/make modules/make modules_install/make install. I still didn't get any modules. I tried again, changing a few modules and being extra careful with my configuration this time, and now it won't build at all; something about undefined symbols. I should have written down exactly what it was, but building a kernel takes a couple hours on my laptop (P166/48MB) so I'm not going to do it again right now. I'm using gcc-2.95. Should I install 3.x? How do I do that on Debian? My attempts at upgrading anything have so far resulted in disaster... I then tried building linux-wlan-ng against kernel-headers-2.4.18-bf2.4, but I get a warning from make config that the headers are for kernel version . and the resulting module contains no version info and will not load even with -f. I guess you need an actual configured kernel tree to build the wlan drivers. Where do I get the source for -bf2.4? apt-get isn't listing it among the candidates for kernel-source. Thanks, Krum -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: finding what is using a mount point
On Fri, 2003-11-21 at 14:43, Micha Feigin wrote: I mounted an image through a loop interface and now when I try to unload it I get a message: umount: /home/micha/tmp: device is busy I made sure no file is open from there but nothing helps. How do I see what is using that mount point? lsof | grep /home/micha/tmp -alf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Experiment: Neophyte versus Windows XP Debian Woody
On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 12:27:33 -0700 Paul E Condon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, I wonder why the RH powers never tried to copy dselect, apt-get, etc. Surely, they were aware of their existence. They did; it's called redhat-config-packages. But it's GUI-only, AFAIK. There's also apt-rpm, but I never tried it. Krum -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: scsi emulation for CD burner
Gregory K. Johnson a écrit : I got an error much like this a few days ago while updating my kernel. I stayed up late looking into and found: * It's a known bug, #213663.[1] * The changelog for the upstream 2.4.23-rc2 kernel release says: Fix ide-scsi initialization lockup (kudos to Alan).[2] * The changelog for Debian's kernel-source-2.4.22 package, version 2.4.22-4 (11/15/2003), says: Fixed initialisation lockup in drivers/scsi/ide-scsi.c (bk, closes: #213663).[3] I was using kernel-source-2.4.22_2.4.22-3 and, indeed, updating to 2.4.22-4 fixed my problem. Thank you Greg ! I updated to 2.4.22-4 and now it works fine. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bad fonts after upgrade to X4.3
I upgraded to X4.3 and now larger fonts are blocky. Look at the Not Found at http://hank.org/images/blocky.png I've listed below my files section. I used dpkg-reconfigure to create a new XF86Config-4 file from the 4.3 package (assuming that the configure script would best know how to configure X). Section Files RgbPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb ModulePath /usr/X11R6/lib/modules FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi:unscaled FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/PEX # Additional fonts: Locale, Gimp, TTF... FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic # FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/latin2/75dpi # FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/latin2/100dpi # True type and type1 fonts are also handled via xftlib, see /etc/X11/XftConfig! FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1 FontPath /usr/share/fonts/ttf/western FontPath /usr/share/fonts/ttf/decoratives FontPath /usr/share/fonts/truetype FontPath /usr/share/fonts/truetype/openoffice FontPath /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-bitstream-vera FontPath /usr/share/fonts/latex-ttf-fonts FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/defoma/CID FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/defoma/TrueType EndSection I have to say I'm really sick of screwing with fonts. Can someone explain why, in 2003, fonts are such a pain in the ass to get working? And why and end user needs to mess with it at all? -- Bill Moseley [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X Won't Start
Mark Healey wrote: On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 07:44:14 -0600, Kent West wrote: Mark Healey wrote: Appearantly I have no gpm. I was surprised when I had no text mode mouse but figured that it was something I could use. Is this somethihg I might be able to install? Yes. apt-get install gpm. Did that, still no cursor. Which means that gpm is not configured properly, or you have a hardware problem with your mouse/mouse port, or you have a usb mouse and usb stuff is not installed/configured. I vaguely remember that you have a standard ps/2-style mouse, plugged into a ps/2 port. Is that correct? If so, run gpmconfig and specify: mouse location: /dev/psaux mouse type: ps/2 repeat type: raw If that does not give you a mouse cursor, I would suspect a bad mouse/port. However, you can try experimenting with the type (enter help when asked about the type IIRC for types). You might also want to boot into Knoppix to see if the mouse works there (to check to make sure the hardware is working), and if so, take a look at what mouse settings it uses (look in /etc/X11/XF86Config; I don't think Knoppix uses gpm). -- Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CTRL+ALT+Backspace will kill the X-server
Sridhar M.A. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If you want to temporarily disable booting to xdm on your VT100 and revert to xdm once you get back the monitor, just disable the xdm startup from all levels. # update-rc.d -f xdm remove After you get back the monitor, # update-rc.d xdm defaults Neither of these are the right answer. (a) will cause the /etc/rc?.d links to be put back into place if the package gets upgraded; (b) will put the links back, but at the wrong priority, so xdm would get started before things like cron. Not a huge deal, but it's probably easier to leave one runlevel (say, 5) in the pristine state; delete /etc/rc2.d/S99xdm if you don't want xdm to start, and then use 'ln -s' to make a link identical to what's in /etc/rc5.d if you want to bring it back. -- David Maze [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://people.debian.org/~dmaze/ Theoretical politics is interesting. Politicking should be illegal. -- Abra Mitchell -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apt-get update not working properly 11/21/03
On Fri, 2003-11-21 at 17:41, red wrote: any ideas? http://cert.uni-stuttgart.de/files/fw/debian-security-20031121.txt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: antivirus recomendation?
On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 14:10:16 +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:14:41 -0700, Monique Y. Herman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 at 21:12 GMT, Arnt Karlsen penned: ..other wintendo compiler and virus signatures, anyone? filename\=.*\.(pif|scr|exe|bat|com|vbs) Be aware that this is incomplete and could also yield false positives. Just suppose, for a dumb off-the-top-of-my-head example, I send a file to you named shell.commands. You'll reject it as being an MS executable. That's the false positive portion. You need to anchor the pattern, according to MIME rules, but then you need lots of variation due to variations allowed in the MIME rules. Your list of extensions is also about 3 or 4 times as short as the more complete ones I've seen on the web. To be truly accurate, you need an actual MIME parser, not a regex here. ..thanks Monique, that I guess leaves other wintendo compiler signatures, anyone?. ;-) ..does anyone have a good guess which compiler was used compiling Swen? MSVC. (Microsoft Visual C / C++, aka Visual Studio) What else would a windows person use? (Ok, Borland perhaps. I wouldn't be surprised if that generated the same this app needs windows, not dos header) -D -- Misfortune pursues the sinner, but prosperity is the reward for the righteous. Proverbs 13:21 www: http://dman13.dyndns.org/~dman/jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: running script from cdrom fails
On Fri, 21 Nov 2003, Micha Feigin wrote: When I try to run shell scripts from cdrom I get the following message: bash: ./INSTALLDOCS.SH: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Permission denied I got this with several bash scripts and in fact, I don't remmember one that did work. Any idea? The cdrom must be mounted with the noexec option (i think is the default whe mounted by a user). Mount as root o with the exec option or run scripts as 'sh INSTALLDOCS.SH`. Xavier -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: hmm debian.org..?
On Fri, 2003-11-21 at 14:49, smurfd wrote: Have a little faith in the debian folks! I sure do! What i dont trust, is some one claiming such things, and not having a @debian.org mailadress :) Me too. On top of that, I won't trust any email in this matter (as I don't know how to check the validity of digitally signed mail). I wonder why I still don't see anything on http://www.debian.org/News/ -- the latest news there being from 10-Nov-2003. cu, Schnobs -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: finding what is using a mount point
Micha Feigin wrote: I mounted an image through a loop interface and now when I try to unload it I get a message: umount: /home/micha/tmp: device is busy I made sure no file is open from there but nothing helps. How do I see what is using that mount point? lsof /home/micha/tmp pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: finding what is using a mount point
on Fri, Nov 21, 2003 at 03:43:49PM +0200, Micha Feigin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I mounted an image through a loop interface and now when I try to unload it I get a message: umount: /home/micha/tmp: device is busy I made sure no file is open from there but nothing helps. How do I see what is using that mount point? $ fuser -vm /mount/point Peace. -- Karsten M. Self [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What Part of Gestalt don't you understand? GNU/Linux web browsing mini review: Galeon. Kicks ass. http://galeon.sourceforge.org/ pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: finding what is using a mount point
Micha Feigin wrote: I mounted an image through a loop interface and now when I try to unload it I get a message: umount: /home/micha/tmp: device is busy I made sure no file is open from there but nothing helps. How do I see what is using that mount point? Try with 'lsof | grep \/home\/micha\/tmp' and 'fuser -v /home/micha/tmp'. Regards. -- _ _ Marcelo Ramos| \/ __| Debian Sid GNU/Linux 2.6.0-test9 ||_// Socio UYLUG Nro 125 | \ Linux registered user #118109||\/||\__\ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: running script from cdrom fails
Micha Feigin wrote: When I try to run shell scripts from cdrom I get the following message: bash: ./INSTALLDOCS.SH: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Permission denied I got this with several bash scripts and in fact, I don't remmember one that did work. Any idea? Check if the shell scripts are in dos format. If that is the case you will see ^M's at the end of every line and those control chars are the cause of the error. If the shell scripts were on a writtable media I would tell you to remove those ^M's. Regards. -- _ _ Marcelo Ramos| \/ __| Debian Sid GNU/Linux 2.6.0-test9 ||_// Socio UYLUG Nro 125 | \ Linux registered user #118109||\/||\__\ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: finding what is using a mount point
Micha Feigin wrote: I mounted an image through a loop interface and now when I try to unload it I get a message: umount: /home/micha/tmp: device is busy I made sure no file is open from there but nothing helps. How do I see what is using that mount point? # lsof /home/micha/tmp -- AvH -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: finding what is using a mount point
Micha Feigin wrote: I mounted an image through a loop interface and now when I try to unload it I get a message: umount: /home/micha/tmp: device is busy I made sure no file is open from there but nothing helps. How do I see what is using that mount point? # lsof /home/micha/tmp -- AvH -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: antivirus recomendation?
On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:02:49 -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: [-- text/plain, encoding 7bit, charset: us-ascii, 15 lines --] Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote: On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:59:00 -0500, Stephen wrote: What antivirus agent have given good results with Stable Exim3? ^ --- /etc/postfix/body_checks ^^^ Uh did you mean to do that? :P Actually, yes. I did a straight copy-n-paste from my postfix configuration. Since both my postfix installation and exim use the same pcre implementation, the pattern is the same. Putting the pattern into the exim configuration is an exercise left for the reader. (really trivial, if you know how to configure exim or how to search the manual) -D -- If your life is a hard drive, Christ can be your backup. www: http://dman13.dyndns.org/~dman/jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
signed package information
I was just reading slashdot about the Debian distro and there was some discussion about the md5 signature of packages. Is there some way that this (is already or can be) implimented by default on package installations? I didn't know about this and would like to know more if I could. Thanks. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Any tool for access NTFS partition of damaged hard drive
On Fri, 2003-11-21 at 06:03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi. I have a hard drive that is damaged and the BIOS can't recognize it. Could I access using some tool of Linux? I'm only interested in one file. Is the .pst file where Outlook saves the mail, it's a very large file but I would be pleased if that file isn't damaged. If the BIOS won't recognize the drive you're not likely to be able to see it under any OS. If you absolutely must have that file, there are data recovery companies out there, unfortunately they tend to charge around $1000 US to recover data. If you find out what's wrong with the drive, it's occasionally possible to revive the drive even if only temporarily using some unlikely fixes. (i.e. if the heads are jammed, freezing the drive overnight, or giving it a sharp twist along the axis of rotation can sometimes free the head.) If you can get the drive to actually be recognized by the BIOS and then you still need a way to get at your data, there's tools to help you. (Though, judging by the fact that you're trying to recover an outlook data file, I'm guessing you already have windows installed on there so you might as well just let Windows boot up and copy over the file you need.) -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: apt-get update not working properly 11/21/03
On Fri, Nov 21, 2003 at 10:41:23AM -0600, red wrote: All, Im getting this from many of my my deb boxen any ideas? Err http://non-us.debian.org unstable/non-US/contrib Release Could not connect to non-us.debian.org:80 (194.109.137.218). - connect (111 Connection refused) SNIP I suspect this has to do with the apparent security breach that some of debian.org's machines suffered in the last day or so. Details here: http://cert.uni-stuttgart.de/files/fw/debian-security-20031121.txt In particular, note the line The archive is not affected by this compromise! ...which seems to me to indicate there's no need to get all paranoid about trojaned packages and such. Cheers! -- ,-. -ScruLoose- | Forward he cried from the rear; and the front rank died Please | and the General sat, and the lines on the map do not Cc me. | moved from side to side. | - Pink Floyd `-' pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Best Current Pratice Postgres upgrade 6.5--7.2
On Thu, 2003-11-20 at 16:23, Monique Y. Herman wrote: On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 at 02:50 GMT, Henry Hollenberg penned: Hello, I have a database running on potato using postgres 6.5 that I'd like to upgrade to Woody running postgres 7.2. ... I believe the install notes say, somewhere, that it's best to do incremental jumps, so rather than doing 6.5-7.2 you would do every step in between. But my memory may be faulty ... A few weeks ago, I tried to convert my source install of 7.0 to 7.2, and even that seemed fraught with difficulty. To be honest, as I don't have an immediate need for a database, I ended up putting the conversion project on the back burner. I say in the migration notes that large version jumps may cause problems. However they are not guaranteed to cause problems. The main difficulty is that pg_dump has been buggy in the past. One important thing to remember is that you should keep your existing software available in case you need to go back. I think there may be places which still archive Debian packages of 6.5, but I don't have them any more myself, so it's wise to make sure you've got that software safe in case of need. If you need to provide a service, it's better to go back to an old version while you get things sorted out than disable the service altogether because you weren't prepared. If there are problems, they may come from things' being dumped in the wrong order. I don't think that a dump from 6.5 will contain bad SQL; as far as I can remember, incompatibiities in language are only found in earlier versions. All problems can be fixed by editing the dump file to make it valid; the only difficulty is where the mass of data is large so that the editing task is burdensome. If you upgrade =7.2 to =7.3 it is a good thing to run the contrib adddepends script, which will build the dependencies that are nowadays created automatically for such things as triggers. -- Oliver Elphick[EMAIL PROTECTED] Isle of Wight, UK http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver GPG: 1024D/3E1D0C1C: CA12 09E0 E8D5 8870 5839 932A 614D 4C34 3E1D 0C1C A new commandment I give unto you; That ye love one another. As I have loved you, so ye also must love one another. By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another. John 13:34,35 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Running SCO RM-COBOL under Debian GNU/Linux 3.0r1
Hi all, I have received the task of doing a migration from a SCO Unix server to a Debian GNU/Linux one, the only problem its a COBOL app that is running on the SCO system, I have found information about using SCO binaries under Linux, but it's quite old, does anyone have recent information about this?. What will I need? appart from the SCO binaries and libs. No expert here, but how does this relate to the linux project tiny cobol ??? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
aspell with mutt
What's the syntax to use to invoke aspell rather than ispell in ones muttrc? I've perused the fine manual, but I can't find an example of the syntax for this function, as mutt assumes ispell by default. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
recommended Virus Scanner?
Hello: What virus scanner is the choice for most Debian users? I'm using Woody, and rather than download and install several, I would like to have actual user feedback, on the pros/cons of any/either. Thank-you. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xterm ignores Xresources when run as x-terminal-emulator
Micha Feigin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I set up some setting for xterm in .Xresources as xterm.foreground=white ... when running xterm this works fine, when running x-terminal-emulater when it is pointing to xterm this doesn't work and the same lines for x-terminal-emulator doesn't seem to help. how do I set the Xresources for x-terminal-emulator ? You could set a couple of things: ! set foreground for x-terminal-emulator, too x-terminal-emulator.foreground: white ! set background for all xterms, regardless of name XTerm.background: black -- David Maze [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://people.debian.org/~dmaze/ Theoretical politics is interesting. Politicking should be illegal. -- Abra Mitchell -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: finding what is using a mount point
On Fri, 2003-11-21 at 10:06, Ken Gilmour wrote: Replying to the message sent by Micha Feigin on Fri, 21 Nov 2003 15:43:49 +0200, received at 16:06:15 on 21/11/2003. Micha Feigin wrote: I mounted an image through a loop interface and now when I try to unload it I get a message: umount: /home/micha/tmp: device is busy I made sure no file is open from there but nothing helps. How do I see what is using that mount point? Maybe there is a swap file open of a file you were previously editing? Or if you're running famd, it loves to keep mount points busy. If I had a penny for every time I had to restart famd before unmounting... I'd have almost a dollar by now! :) -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Which GCC version for kernels?
Davor Balder wrote: On Tue, Nov 25, 2003 at 12:54:21AM -0500, Kevin Krumwiede wrote: Should I be using GCC 3.x for building kernels on Woody? I'm using 2.95 and I keep getting errors like undefined symbols and modules not being built or installed. I've tried both 'make-kpkg kernel-image' and the standard 'make dep make clean make bzImage make modules make modules_install make install'. I'm also having trouble building the wlan-ng drivers, but I want to get a nice clean kernel build before I try to sort that one out. (I got make-kpkg to build a package once, but it didn't contain any modules. Do I have to use 'make-kpkg modules' or something?) Incidentally, what is the command to upgrade GCC? I'm quite new to Debian and I've had to install it three times already. I'm sure that even with apt I'll find a way to screw it up. :o) Thanks, Krum Hi Krum, Did you try running 'make-kpkg clean' first? I think this may well be your problem. I think GCC version may not be your problem. For your reference, this is the procedure most commonly used: 1.) while in kernel directory run 'make-kpkg clean' 2.) make-kpkg --revision=your_kernel_name.1.0 kernel_image 3.) once you've built your kernel, you can go one directory up and dpkg -i your_kernel_name.1.0 I hope this helps (and works for you). Cheers, Davor A couple of links which I found useful when I finally started building kernels, the first one (which I used the most) I DLed and made it part of my local documentation. http://myrddin.org/howto/debian-kernel-recompile.html http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/kernel-pkg.html ..paul -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
