Re: Cliente P2P en deb y que funcione!

2003-11-30 Thread Alberto

Woody :)

A fecha de Sunday 30 November 2003 14:10, Ekeko escribió:
 ¿Woody - Sarge - Sid?

 El dom, 30-11-2003 a las 07:14, Alberto escribió:
  Hola gente,
 
  he provado soulseek, y me mandaron a nicotine. Probé nicotine pero tenia
  problemas con le python, probé mldonkey y tampoco. Busqué en
  apt-cacheme instalé gtk-gnutella y bingo! pero va como el culo y los
  servidores estan anticuados.
 
  ¿Existe alguno en .deb que vaya bien y que use entorno gráfico?
 
 
  Hasta luego!
 
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Re: Problema con disquettera

2003-11-30 Thread Pablo Bitreras
el Sun, 30 Nov 2003 16:39:53 +0100
Mario - Vila-real [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribio:

 Hola a todos.
 
   Resulta que he intentado montar la disquetera y solo me deja
 montarla en modo solo lectura.
 
 No la habia utilizado antes, (con eso de los cd's, se esta quedando
 obsoleta la pobre, y sin utilizar), por tanto no se si esta rota, o es
 un fallo de configuracion. He mirado hasta donde sé y no he podido
 solucionarlo.
 
 Mi linea en /etc/fstab es :
 
 /dev/fd0/floppy autouser,noauto 0 0
 
 En el fichero /var/log/messages me dice :
 
 Cuando hago:   mount /dev/fd0
 
 Nov 28 11:09:47 Makkina kernel: FAT: bogus cluster size 41
 Nov 28 11:09:47 Makkina kernel: VFS: Can't find a valid FAT filesystem
 on dev 02:00.
 Nov 28 11:09:47 Makkina kernel: sr0: CDROM not ready.  Make sure there
 is a disc in the drive.
 
 Cuando hago mount -t ext2 /dev/fd0 /floppy
 
 Nov 28 11:23:16 Makkina kernel: VFS: Can't find ext2 filesystem on dev
 fd(2,0).
 Nov 28 11:23:16 Makkina kernel: sr0: CDROM not ready.  Make sure there
 is a disc in the drive.
 
   Dice algo de mi grabadora.

metiste manos en el kernel?, si es asi, prueba con modprobe vfat, si te dice 
que
no se encuentra reconfigura el kernel con soporte para fat.

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[SOLUCIONADO]Re: archivo .patch

2003-11-30 Thread SoTaNeZ

== El problema es que el directorio de las fuentes lo busca como linux-2.5.
== Prueba a hacer un enlace simbólico que se llame así, y haz otra vez el
== patch.
== 
== Salu2

Con esto casi se solucionaba el problema, pero tuve que copiar dos archivos a 
mano al kernel que no se por qué los ponía en una carpeta aparte llamada 
supermount 2.5. Si a alguien le interesa pongo el proceso exacto. Saludos.



Re: Cliente P2P en deb y que funcione!

2003-11-30 Thread Ekeko
La mayoría de las herramientas P2P más actuales están en =Sarge.
Googlea, hay muchas guías sobre como incluír paquetes de Sarge-Sid en
Woody, también puedes buscar directorios de apt-get para woody
no-oficiales que puede haber por ahí.

El dom, 30-11-2003 a las 13:22, Alberto escribió:
 Woody :)
 
 A fecha de Sunday 30 November 2003 14:10, Ekeko escribió:
  ¿Woody - Sarge - Sid?
 
  El dom, 30-11-2003 a las 07:14, Alberto escribió:
   Hola gente,
  
   he provado soulseek, y me mandaron a nicotine. Probé nicotine pero tenia
   problemas con le python, probé mldonkey y tampoco. Busqué en
   apt-cacheme instalé gtk-gnutella y bingo! pero va como el culo y los
   servidores estan anticuados.
  
   ¿Existe alguno en .deb que vaya bien y que use entorno gráfico?
  
  
   Hasta luego!
  
   ---Publicidad
   Juega con Ventura24.es, lotería inteligente y multiplica tus
   posibilidades!! http://www.iespana.es/_reloc/email.ventura
 
 ---Publicidad
 Juega con Ventura24.es, lotería inteligente y multiplica tus
 posibilidades!! http://www.iespana.es/_reloc/email.ventura
 
 



Re: Me está llegando spam

2003-11-30 Thread Jaume Furor
On Sat, Nov 29, 2003 at 09:15:55PM +, Miguel Angel Santana Dí­az wrote:
 Hola a todos. Les cuento esto para ver si tienen el mismo problema.
 
 Hace unas 2 semanas me suscribí a esta lista, y hasta ahora, todo bien, 
 pero hace 2 dias empezo a llegarme una gran cantidad de basura en mensajes 
 disfrazados de parches de M$ y errores de envío de correo (undeliverable 
 mail). Esta dirección solo se la he dado a la lista y a 2 amigos. Tendrá 

Cambia esto  [EMAIL PROTECTED] por esto [EMAIL PROTECTED] y veras como 
bajarán drásticamente, a mi desde que cambie el e-mail sólo me llega de 1 a 2 
al día sin poner ningún antispam y antes me llegaban más de 100, creo que de 
100 a 1 ó 2 al día sólo cambiando el e-mail esta bien... .

Salut,
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Ayuda con DHCP

2003-11-30 Thread Angel (4Caños)
Tengo un pc con 3 tarjetas de red, no se como configurar el DHCP para que
solo de Ip´s a dos de ellos
los interfaces a los que quiero que les de ip´s son
eth0 192.168.0.0 / 24
eth2 10.34.80.0 / 26

El caso es que si no declaro las 3 subnets me da un error, dice que la
subnet 10.34.82.0 (que es eth1 no esta declarada) y el DHCP no va.
Si dejo las 3 subnets declaradas tampoco va. Me interesa que de Ip´s nada
mas que eth0 y eth1.

¿Hay alguna manera de configurar el dhcp dependiendo del interface de red
que se quiera tratar?

¿Cuando se le da una ip a un cliente dependiendo de su Mac, se le puede dar
una u otra en funcion del interface que le contiene?

Gracias de antemano, envio como tengo el dhcp.conf por si es necesario para
la aclaración

Saludos


# dhcpd.conf
#
# Sample configuration file for ISC dhcpd
#

# option definitions common to all supported networks...
# option domain-name ayasystems.com;
# option domain-name-servers toccata.fugue.com;

default-lease-time 600;
max-lease-time 7200;

subnet 192.168.0.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {
  range 192.168.0.193 192.168.0.200;
  option broadcast-address 192.168.0.255;
  option routers 192.168.0.191;
}

subnet 10.34.80.0 netmask 255.255.255.224{
range 10.34.80.2 10.34.80.30;
option broadcast-address 10.34.80.31;
option routers 10.34.80.1;
option domain-name ayasystems.com;
}

subnet 10.34.82.0 netmask 255.255.255.192{
range 10.34.82.47 10.34.82.48;
option broadcast-address 10.34.82.63;
option routers 10.34.82.58;
option domain-name zulemawireless.com;
}




Recompilar Kernel

2003-11-30 Thread Fernando Becerra




Hola, soy nuevo en la lista y también en el 
ambiente linux,
tengo debian 3.0.con kernel 2.2.20-idepci y 
he tenido algunos problemas configurando la tarjetade sonido SB live 5.1 y 
un winmodem, debido a estoquiero actualizar elkernel, ahora tengo el 
archivo: linux-2.4.22.tar.bz2, inicie el proceso depara recompilar, 
descomprimí, guarde en usr/src, cree un enlace simbólico a linux-2.4.22, 
copieel archivo configde la carpeta boot,llame a make dep, y 
luego a make bzImage y allí fue el problema, boto el siguiente 
error:

fercho:/usr/src/linux-2.4.22# make bzImagemake: 
*** No rule to make target `include/linux/autoconf.h', needed by 
`include/config/MARKER'. 
Stop.fercho:/usr/src/linux-2.4.22#

y bueno hasta allí llego mi intento, ya instale los 
kernel headers con apt-get, que mas puedo hacer???

Gracias por la atención prestada.

Fernando.


Re: Ayuda con DHCP

2003-11-30 Thread Xavier Andrade
On Mon, 1 Dec 2003, Angel (4Caños) wrote:

 Tengo un pc con 3 tarjetas de red, no se como configurar el DHCP para que
 solo de Ip´s a dos de ellos
 los interfaces a los que quiero que les de ip´s son
 eth0 192.168.0.0 / 24
 eth2 10.34.80.0 / 26

 El caso es que si no declaro las 3 subnets me da un error, dice que la
 subnet 10.34.82.0 (que es eth1 no esta declarada) y el DHCP no va.
 Si dejo las 3 subnets declaradas tampoco va. Me interesa que de Ip´s nada
 mas que eth0 y eth1.

En /etc/defaults/dhcp le dices en que interfaces escuche.


 ¿Hay alguna manera de configurar el dhcp dependiendo del interface de red
 que se quiera tratar?

Mira la documentacion acerca de como configurar un hosts particular
basandose en la MAC address.

Es algo como:
host antar {
fixed-address 10.0.0.2;
hardware ethernet 00:50:44:d8:f2:ff;
}

 ¿Cuando se le da una ip a un cliente dependiendo de su Mac, se le puede dar
 una u otra en funcion del interface que le contiene?

Supongo que si, por que las definiciones para cado host van dentro de la
subred, pero no lo he probado.

Xavier



Re: Recompilar Kernel

2003-11-30 Thread Javier Aragones

Hola:
Lo que has hecho es tratar de compilar el kernel 2.4.22 con las opciones 
del 2.2.20.
Lo que te conviene hacer es instalar algunos de los kernel-image de los 
CDs, de la versión 2.4.x, con sus fuentes, luego para usar el que 
descargaste ( el 2.4.22), usas su configuración y modificas lo que sea 
mas de tu arquitectura. O bien compilas el kernel que descargaste con 
las opciones que prefieras, de cero, es decir configuras de acuerdo a tu 
máquina. Luego creas el kernel-image con el make-pkpg, o el método 
tradicional. Al tener los dos kernel operativos, es decir seleccionables 
desde el lilo, si hay algún error de falta de algo, podes iniciar el 
sistema con el kernel viejo y solucionar el asunto.

Veamos.


Fernando Becerra escribió:

Hola, soy nuevo en la lista y también en el ambiente linux,
tengo debian 3.0. con kernel 2.2.20-idepci y he tenido algunos problemas 
configurando la tarjeta de sonido SB live 5.1 y un winmodem, debido a 
esto quiero actualizar el kernel, ahora tengo el archivo: 
linux-2.4.22.tar.bz2, inicie el proceso de para recompilar, descomprimí, 
guarde en usr/src, cree un enlace simbólico a linux-2.4.22, copie el 
archivo config de la carpeta boot, llame a make dep, y luego a make 
bzImage y allí fue el problema, boto el siguiente error:
 
fercho:/usr/src/linux-2.4.22# make bzImage
make: *** No rule to make target `include/linux/autoconf.h', needed by 
`include/config/MARKER'.  Stop.
fercho:/usr/src/linux-2.4.22# 
 
y bueno hasta allí llego mi intento, ya instale los kernel headers con 
apt-get, que mas puedo hacer???
 
Gracias por la atención prestada.
 
Fernando.


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Problemas con el sonido

2003-11-30 Thread capitan_buscapina



Si me conecto con un usuario normal no me deja usar 
el sonido, me dice que no tiene permisos /dev/dsp, agregue al usuario al grupo 
sonido y cd, pero sigue sin funcionar, tambien le di permisos de ejecucion al 
/dev/dsp
Que es lo que me esta faltando?
Gracias y saludos


Re: Me está llegando spam

2003-11-30 Thread Maby
CHEE A mi tambien me llega spam y otra vez el virus alert
- Mensaje original -
De: Ismael Valladolid Torres [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Para: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org
Enviado: domingo, 30 de noviembre de 2003 10:22
Asunto: Re: Me está llegando spam





Re: instalar driver modem

2003-11-30 Thread Daniel M.
me rindo, voy a cambiar el modem y ya, por ahi ecuche que cualquier modem
que ande con DOS no da problemas en linux, voy a buscar uno de esos.
Pero de todas formas me tiene preocupado lo que me paso compilando el
driver, porque creer que me da este error de version de kernel :


 make install da error, trate d hacer a mano lo que decia el readme en caso
 de que el script no funcione y me dice que los .o estan compilados para el
 kernel 2.4.18 y que yo estoy usando 2.4.18bf.
 y ahora? no son las mismas fuentes? estaban en el mismo cd, el kernel y su
 fuente ...


  Daniel M. escribió:
  Hasta aquí llegan mis humildes conocimientos entonces :-(
  Yo descomprimí el tar.gz y ahí estaban el ham.o y hamcore.o, no sé en
tu
  caso.
  
   yo no tube esa suerte =)
  
  Ahora bien, sé que para instalar los kernel headers y usarlos para
  compilar, hay que instalarlos, luego descomprimirlos, porque son un
  tar.gz, y luego crear un link simbólico que me parece que va de
  usr/src/linux a /usr/src/kernel-headers-2.4.18, y sé también que
  autoconf.h debería estar en /usr/include/linux/ ...pero no sé donde se
  relaciona una cosa con la otra... así que si ayuda alguien más sabio,
  nos aclara a los dos :-)
  
  
   ahh bien...esto me gusta mas...yo solo instale el pakete del
source...y
   ahora?
   es verdad..tengo todos los fuentes comprimidos, donde los descomprimo?
   y que hay de ese link?
   tambien lei algo de que antes de intalar un driver tengo que
recompilar
 el
   kernel por primera vez, y si no lei mal era algo de
   make menuconfig, pero esto tambien me da error
  
   pd...estoy usando woody 3.0r1 recien instalado
 
  No, la cosa no va por el lado de recompilar el kernel, no es necesario
  que te metas en esos problemas aún.
 
  Se trata de descomprimir los kernel-headers ahí mismo donde han quedado
  instalados en /usr/src, y hacer el o los links simbólicos necesarios
  para que el script de instalación del driver los encuentre.
 
  A lo mejor si le das una leída a los scripts de instalación como el
  makefile te de más pistas... o, bueno, googleando un poco ;-)
 
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Re: Recompilar Kernel

2003-11-30 Thread R Leon

te recomiendo la siguiente ayuda

http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=2949

esta muy bien explicado, a mi la primera ves solo me fallo el seleccionar bien 
los modulos, pero la segunda ves quedo perfecto


Fernando Becerra wrote:

Hola, soy nuevo en la lista y también en el ambiente linux,
tengo debian 3.0. con kernel 2.2.20-idepci y he tenido algunos problemas 





Ayúdenme a recuperar unos archivos

2003-11-30 Thread RODRIGO HUMBERTO GIRON









Hola:

Me facilitaron unos archivos que se encuentran en Word
Perfect 5.1 creo, ¿puedo hacer algo para recuperarlos con Word?

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Re: Me está llegando spam

2003-11-30 Thread R Leon

hola
como se hace ese cambio
si hago el cambio en mi configuracion de correo, ya no puedo enviar nada, ya que 
necesito identificarme con mi nombre de usuario para poder enviar y recibir correos
he buscado en google algo como fake address para ocultar mi direccion pero no 
doy una,


saludos

Jaume Furor wrote:



Cambia esto  [EMAIL PROTECTED] por esto [EMAIL PROTECTED] y veras como bajarán drásticamente, a 
mi desde que cambie el e-mail sólo me llega de 1 a 2 al día sin poner ningún antispam y antes me llegaban 
más de 100, creo que de 100 a 1 ó 2 al día sólo cambiando el e-mail esta bien... .

Salut,





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mldonkey

2003-11-30 Thread Daniel López
Hablando de macanas , los otros dias me borre el  directorio temp (donde
guardo los temporales :D) del mldonkey , entonces me quede sin nada,pero
despues me di con la sorpresa que para mledonkey las cosas siguen como
si nada.

Es decir despues de borrar el directorio  y darme cuenta del moco, lo
volvi a crear  , entonces me volvio a  crear archivos temporales, pero
desde el servidor de html  se ve que  esta por la mitad  de bajada ,
cunado la primera mitad la borre ya .

Habra alguna forma de resetear las bajadas  o de recuperar la lista de 
bajando, cosa de empesar de nuevo , pero con archivos temporales
correctos.

Daniel



Re: compilando con VIM

2003-11-30 Thread Francisco J. Rueda
El sáb, 29-11-2003 a las 04:25, David Vargas escribió:
 On Saturday 29 November 2003 11:22, Aitor Fernández wrote:
  Si lo que buscar es compilar directamente el codigo fuente hazlo con:
 
 gcc -o archivo_binario  Archivo_fuente..
 
 o con
 
 cc -o archivo_binario Archivo_fuente...
 

Uops... Parece que sí me fallaba un poco la memoria...jejeje.

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Re: Ayúdenme a recuperar unos archivos

2003-11-30 Thread Francisco J. Rueda
El mar, 02-12-2003 a las 04:11, RODRIGO HUMBERTO GIRON escribió:
 ¿puedo hacer algo para recuperarlos con Word?

Sí, claro. Sigue estos pasos:

1. Haz format c: desde la línea de comandos. Esto te dejará el disco
duro libre del virus Güindous X

2. Consigue los CD's de una distribución Linux. Me imagino que si no
sabes distinguir entre una lista Linux y una Güindous, te irá bien una
Mandrake, o algo así facilito

3.- Instálate OpenOffice en la forma en que lo tengas que instalar desde
la distribución que hayas elegido

4.- Abre el archivo tal cual

P.D.: Intenta que los próximos correos no sólo vayan en HTML, sino que
además éstos estén cargados de imágenes y, si puede ser, sonidos. Eso
gusta mucho en las listas.

Salu2x

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Re: Ayúdenme a recuperar unos archivos

2003-11-30 Thread Ismael Fanlo
El Lunes, 1 de Diciembre de 2003 06:37, Francisco J. Rueda escribió:

 3.- Instálate OpenOffice en la forma en que lo tengas que instalar desde
 la distribución que hayas elegido

 4.- Abre el archivo tal cual


Estaría muy bien si no fuese porque OpenOffice no lee ficheros word perfect 
directamente. :-P

(es más... al principio me ha parecido que era ese el problema que planteaba, 
luego me he dado cuenta de que hablaba de bord)

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Re: Routing-problem forts

2003-11-30 Thread Anders Wallenquist

Anders Wallenquist wrote:



Har problem med en brandväggskonfiguration (Woody + Shorewall).

Problemet är att routingen inte sätter ingång. Netstat -r ser 
korrekt ut, har gjort echo 1  /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward. Vad har 
jag glömt?


/Anders W



Skiss över konfigurationen:

 Internet
  |
   Telias router
  |
   net
  |
  *
  /\

  locdmz 


loc = dmz OK
dmz = net fungerar ej
*  = net OK

Telias router är konfigurerad som default gateway i *

16 RIPE-adresserna är  delade i två nät med nätmasken 255.255.255.248

loke:/home/aw# route
Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse 
Iface

dmz  *   255.255.255.248 U 0  00 eth1
net  *255.255.255.248 U 0  00 eth0
loc*   255.255.255.0   U 0  00 eth2
default h1.kreawit.se   0.0.0.0 UG0  00 
eth0  

Misstänker att nätmasken i teliaroutern är 255.255.255.240 istället för 
255.255.255.248, dvs pekar ut hela nätet med de 16 RIPE-adresserna. Är 
det tillräckligt för att ställa till ovastående problem? Är det någon 
annan inställning som måste göras
i Telias router, t ex peka på min fw/gw (* i skissen ovan)?  Var i 
kontakt med deras prolain-grupp, men de hävdade att
deras grejer var korrekt inställda och var mest upprörd över att jag 
hade valt Debian/netfilter för brandväggen/dmz istället
för Cisco/vlan. Tror inte att teknikern iddes logga in på routern för 
att kontrollera inställningen.


Det skulle vara skönt att veta att jag inte gjort fel innan jag gnäller 
för mycket på Telia. Har en handfull liknande maskiner i drift
men med shorewall från Debian stable (1.2?). Denna gång hämtade jag 
shorewalls eget debianpaket med shorewall 1.4  och var tungen att även 
uppdatera iptables med en från testing för att hålla Shorewall nöjd. Kan 
problemen finns här? Någon på listan har jag för mig rekommenderade att 
hänga med till 1.4 och det känns ofta tryggare att ha det senast när det 
gäller denna typ av grejer.


/Anders W







Paketrensning och arkiv

2003-11-30 Thread Anders Wallenquist
Hur gör man paketrensning i ett arkiv? Samlar på mig högvis med 
nedladdade och uppdaterade paket som jag gärna sparar på
CD eller lokala/centrala egna arkiv för att uppdatera andra maskiner 
utan att på nytt behöva hämta dem på nytt via mitt smalband.


dpkg-scanpackages på arkivet ger mig en fräsch Packages-lista men gamla 
dubletter ligger kvar.


1) Finns det något smart sätt att radera och behålla endast den senaste 
i mitt privata arkiv?


2) Kan jag lösenordsskydda mitt privata debian-arkiv och ändå lägga upp 
det i /etc/apt/source.list? Skulle vara smart att skilja på arkiv med 
allmänt intresse och arkiv där endast mina privata maskiner hämtar 
speciella deb-paket.


/Anders W





skummiteter efter IP-byte

2003-11-30 Thread Henrik Johansson
Hej allihopa!

Ursäkta om detta blir en dubbel-post. Jag skickade det för ett par
dagar sedan men det verkar ha kommit bort. murphy kanske inte var helt
kry än.


Jag sköter en woody-burk åt en kompis som har den som kombinerad
brandvägg (ipchains med masquerade) och mailserver. Innanför står en
burk med windowsXP. När han nyligen bytte internetabonnemang (från
bostreams X-stream till scream) hände konstiga saker.

Alla nedladdningar av filer större än pyttesmå stannar snabbt av och
timear efter ett tag ut. De börjar normal i OK fart och små filer går
bra (mail och vanlig surfning t ex, ssh funkar också i båda
rikningarna). Upstream data flyter på utan några problem alls. Det här
beteendet visar sig oavsett om man försöker hämta data till
windowsburken från internet (via woodyburken) eller om loggar in på
woodyburken och försöker hämta dit det istället. Enligt tptest
påverkas både TCP och UDP ungefär likadant. Om man kopplar
windowsburken direkt till internet flyter datat på problemfritt i båda
rikningarna.

Bägge abonnemangen har fasta IP, det enda man skall behöva göra är att
koppla in ethernetsladden från modemet och ställa in IP, gateway,
nätmask samt dns-er.

När det nya abonnemanget med nytt IP osv kopplats in uppdaterade vi
/etc/network/interfaces, /etc/hosts, /etc/networks och
/etc/resolv.conf. För säkerhets skull grepade jag rekursivt i /etc
efter de första siffrorna i det gamla IPt utan att hitta något. Sedan
startades alla relavanta processer om. När problemen märktes bootades
till och med hela burken om för säkerhets skull.

Jag har kollat minnes och processor-användnig på woodyburken (den kör
på gammal skraltig hårdvara), men det ser ut som vanligt. Symtomen ser
lite ut som MTU-mismatch, men jag har kollat den, den står på 1500 på
både inre och yttre nätverkskortet (== det wintendo sägs
använda). Loggarna visar inte heller någonting intressant.

Det känns som att jag har missat någonting. Det verkar inte vara något
fel på uppkopplingen (den funkar ju utmärkt med wintendo), och woodyburken
fungerade finfint före bytet.

Har någon några ideér om vad jag kan ha missat?


Hälsningar,

Henrik Johansson



ide para linux

2003-11-30 Thread Bruno N. L. Faria
ae galera, alguem sabe de algum IDE bom p/ linux de C/C++??
queria algo do tipo borland c++, mas kylix tá fora...alguma sugestao?

vlw
Bruno



Re:ide para linux

2003-11-30 Thread rafa_c

Glade, Anjuta, DDD...

e por aí vai!!!



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 ae galera, alguem sabe de algum IDE bom p/ linux de C/C++??
 queria algo do tipo borland c++, mas kylix tá fora...alguma sugestao?
 
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Re: Cavalo de Troia LKM

2003-11-30 Thread Stefano Martins

Cláudio Max wrote:


Alguém tem alguma idéia da gravidade desta mensagem do chkrootkit?

Checking `lkm'... 
You have 4 process hidden for readdir command

You have 4 process hidden for ps command
Warning: Possible LKM Trojan installed

Andei examinando na rede e parece que é uma sacanagem que altera módulos
do núcleo. Detalhe, eu mesmo compilo meu núcleo e o crio monolítico, sem
gerenciador de módulos ou seja no modulos, señor.

Não estou em rede e só me conecto na internet por algum tempo à noite,
via linha discada.
Debian testing/unstable.

Aparentemente não é nada, mas se alguém tiver algo a acrescentar eu 
adoraria.



Abraço

Cláudio

 


caro claudio
eu nem sabia que existiam trojans pra gnu/linux
mas de qualquer jeito, eu acho que vc devia rodar um nmap ai

#apt-get install nmap

#nmap seuipexterno

tem que ser o seu endereco ip externo, pra saber se seu pc estah 
vulneravel para pessoas foram da sua rede interna


espero ter ajudado

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MSN no linux

2003-11-30 Thread Franz Gustav Niederheitmann
alguém aí já conseguiu emular o MSN Messenger c/ o wine???
existe algum programa for Linux q tenha suporte p o MSN Messenger 6.0
incluindo o chat via audio e vídeo?

já tentei o Koppete, mas naum tem o suporte p/ video...

como eu emularia o MSN no wine? o que preciso mudar no
/home/USUARIO/.wine/config???

obrigado pela atenção...

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Boeder PC Chat Webcam -- como fazer funcionar

2003-11-30 Thread Franz Gustav Niederheitmann
tenho uma webcam - Boeder Pc Chat Webcam - e gostaria de usá-la no
gnomemeeting, mas não sei como fazer para ela funcionar
alguma dica?

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Lexmark Z-45

2003-11-30 Thread fapec
Olá pessoal,

Tem alguém usando a lexmark Z-45 no debian? Se positivo, quais os arquivos
necessários para o suporte?

Antecipadamente obrigado...

Francisco de Assis Pereira Cavalcante





Xchat2 e xmms...

2003-11-30 Thread Franz Gustav Niederheitmann

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alguém sabe como q eu faço p pegar a saida de titulo+tempo+nome da
musica do xmms e colocar como se fosse um alias p q eu possa diser ql
musica eu to escutando no xmms no Xchat2?

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Xchat2 e xmms...

2003-11-30 Thread Franz Gustav Niederheitmann
alguém sabe como q eu faço p pegar a saida de titulo+tempo+nome da
musica do xmms e colocar como se fosse um alias p q eu possa diser ql
musica eu to escutando no xmms no Xchat2?

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xmms no Xchat 2

2003-11-30 Thread Franz Gustav Niederheitmann
alguém sabe como q eu faço p pegar a saida de titulo+tempo+nome da
musica do xmms e colocar como se fosse um alias p q eu possa diser ql
musica eu to escutando no xmms no Xchat2?

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Re: [Clube do Pingüim] MSN no linux

2003-11-30 Thread Antonio F. Zago
Em Dom, 2003-11-30 às 13:42, Franz Gustav Niederheitmann escreveu:
 alguém aí já conseguiu emular o MSN Messenger c/ o wine???
 existe algum programa for Linux q tenha suporte p o MSN Messenger 6.0
 incluindo o chat via audio e vídeo?
 
 já tentei o Koppete, mas naum tem o suporte p/ video...
 
 como eu emularia o MSN no wine? o que preciso mudar no
 /home/USUARIO/.wine/config???

Olá
Não testei mas tem msm pra Linux, talvez seja melhor que usar via wine,
veja este FAQ

http://www.zago.eti.br/msn.txt


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Re: MSN no linux

2003-11-30 Thread Boni

Franz Gustav Niederheitmann wrote:

alguém aí já conseguiu emular o MSN Messenger c/ o wine???
existe algum programa for Linux q tenha suporte p o MSN Messenger 6.0
incluindo o chat via audio e vídeo?

já tentei o Koppete, mas naum tem o suporte p/ video...

como eu emularia o MSN no wine? o que preciso mudar no
/home/USUARIO/.wine/config???

obrigado pela atenção...

Tenta o amsn.. ele é default no Kurumin, não uso pq não gosto de msn.. 
bom gosto e b... todo mundo tem um  :)


Falou

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Emulação IDE-SCSI (Gravadora)

2003-11-30 Thread Marcos José Setim
Pessoal preciso habilitar a emulação IDE-SCSI para o meu debian, já fiz
os seguintes processos:

No lilo:

append=hdc=ide-scsi

Habilitei via modconf o módulo ide-scsi

Mas agora quando vou montar o dispositivo da essa mensagem:

zeus:/home/mjs# mount /dev/cdrom /cdrom
/dev/cdrom: Erro de entrada/saída
mount: you must specify the filesystem type
zeus:/home/mjs#

Aí tentei especificar o tipo de arquivo mas mesmo assim não deu:

zeus:/home/mjs# mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /cdrom
mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/cdrom,
   or too many mounted file systems
   (could this be the IDE device where you in fact use
   ide-scsi so that sr0 or sda or so is needed?)


Se eu desabilitar o append ele monta normalmente mas aí não posso gravar
cd's pois o cdrecord precisa da emulação :(



Re: bootsplash, ta quase tudo funcionando

2003-11-30 Thread Allan
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Ronaldo escreveu:
 Ronaldo;

consegui botar o bootsplash para funcionar

Tudo o que eu consegui, foi colocar em verbose mode (uma imagem de fundo no 
tty1). Quando ativo a opção silent mode recebo um kernel panic. Compilei e 
reconpilei meu kernel com patches do bootsplash de 2 diferentes autores. Suei 
e suei, mas nada. Alguém teve alguma experiência semelhante??

Abraços
Allan
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Re: Emulação IDE-SCSI (Gravadora)

2003-11-30 Thread José Antonio Boyd Cardoso
Câmbio Marcos !

Quando se ativa a emulação, o dispositivo passa a ser outro. Um
cdrecord -scanbus vai lhe ajudar. Olha o meu aqui:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# cdrecord -scanbus
Cdrecord 1.10 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2001 Jörg Schilling
Linux sg driver version: 3.1.25
Using libscg version 'schily-0.5'
scsibus0:
0,0,0 0) 'HP  ' 'CD-Writer+ 9100 ' '1.0c' Removable CD-ROM
0,1,0 1) *
0,2,0 2) *
0,3,0 3) *
0,4,0 4) *
0,5,0 5) *
0,6,0 6) *
0,7,0 7) *
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~#

E eu uso ele como /dev/sr0...

Boa sorte !

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Em Sun, 30 Nov 2003 18:16:18 -0200
Marcos José Setim [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:

 Pessoal preciso habilitar a emulação IDE-SCSI para o meu debian, já
 fiz os seguintes processos:
 
 No lilo:
 
 append=hdc=ide-scsi
 
 Habilitei via modconf o módulo ide-scsi
 
 Mas agora quando vou montar o dispositivo da essa mensagem:
 
 zeus:/home/mjs# mount /dev/cdrom /cdrom
 /dev/cdrom: Erro de entrada/saída
 mount: you must specify the filesystem type
 zeus:/home/mjs#
 
 Aí tentei especificar o tipo de arquivo mas mesmo assim não deu:
 
 zeus:/home/mjs# mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /cdrom
 mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/cdrom,
or too many mounted file systems
(could this be the IDE device where you in fact use
ide-scsi so that sr0 or sda or so is needed?)
 
 
 Se eu desabilitar o append ele monta normalmente mas aí não posso
 gravar cd's pois o cdrecord precisa da emulação :(
 



Re: Emulação IDE-SCSI (Gravadora)

2003-11-30 Thread Marcos José Setim
Consegui resolver!!! 

Quando eu dou o:

alias scd0 sr_mod

Ele passa a emular o scsi ali entaum bastou eu montar a partir deste
dispositivo:

#mount -t iso9660 /dev/scd0 /cdrom

Que funcionou :=)

Em Dom, 2003-11-30 às 19:15, José Antonio Boyd Cardoso escreveu:
 Câmbio Marcos !
 
 Quando se ativa a emulação, o dispositivo passa a ser outro. Um
 cdrecord -scanbus vai lhe ajudar. Olha o meu aqui:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# cdrecord -scanbus
 Cdrecord 1.10 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2001 Jörg Schilling
 Linux sg driver version: 3.1.25
 Using libscg version 'schily-0.5'
 scsibus0:
 0,0,0 0) 'HP  ' 'CD-Writer+ 9100 ' '1.0c' Removable CD-ROM
 0,1,0 1) *
 0,2,0 2) *
 0,3,0 3) *
 0,4,0 4) *
 0,5,0 5) *
 0,6,0 6) *
 0,7,0 7) *
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~#
 
 E eu uso ele como /dev/sr0...
 
 Boa sorte !
 
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 Em Sun, 30 Nov 2003 18:16:18 -0200
 Marcos José Setim [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:
 
  Pessoal preciso habilitar a emulação IDE-SCSI para o meu debian, já
  fiz os seguintes processos:
  
  No lilo:
  
  append=hdc=ide-scsi
  
  Habilitei via modconf o módulo ide-scsi
  
  Mas agora quando vou montar o dispositivo da essa mensagem:
  
  zeus:/home/mjs# mount /dev/cdrom /cdrom
  /dev/cdrom: Erro de entrada/saída
  mount: you must specify the filesystem type
  zeus:/home/mjs#
  
  Aí tentei especificar o tipo de arquivo mas mesmo assim não deu:
  
  zeus:/home/mjs# mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /cdrom
  mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/cdrom,
 or too many mounted file systems
 (could this be the IDE device where you in fact use
 ide-scsi so that sr0 or sda or so is needed?)
  
  
  Se eu desabilitar o append ele monta normalmente mas aí não posso
  gravar cd's pois o cdrecord precisa da emulação :(
  
 



Re: Impressora Canon BJC-250

2003-11-30 Thread Claudio Clemens
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2003-11-28, 01:44 -, Guilherme de Freitas Figueiredo:
 Pessoal, tenho uma impressora Canon BJC-250 e nao conseguir configurar
 ela por nada, ja tentei com lpr, lprng, falo que ela ta no /dev/lp0 e
 funciona so que ela na hora de imprimir imprime tudo desconfigurado e
 nada do que eu mandei imprimir, alguem ai tem alguma solu��o?

Eu tinha uma bjc240 e usava o driver bjc600 ou bj600 e funcionava legal.
INstale o apsfilter e seja feliz.

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Impressora Ricoh

2003-11-30 Thread Boni
Ola galera, estou com uma impressora Ricoh Aficio 1013/1013F com IP fixo 
no trampo e não consigo fazer funcionar em meu Debian, alguem teria uma 
dica?


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Re: bootsplash, ta quase tudo funcionando

2003-11-30 Thread eduardob
Aí cara,

Talvez tu tenhas que recompilar o kernel com suporte a framebuffer..
E tambem adicionar os patches do bootsplash.

Eu instalei aqui no meu kernel 2.4.22 o suporte a bootsplash e funcionou tanto 
no modo silent como no verbose. Só nao consegui ainda colocar a progressbar, 
mas ainda estou tentando.


Att,
Eduardo


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 Ronaldo escreveu:
  Ronaldo;
 
 consegui botar o bootsplash para funcionar
 
 Tudo o que eu consegui, foi colocar em verbose mode (uma imagem de fundo no 
 tty1). Quando ativo a opção silent mode recebo um kernel panic. Compilei e 
 reconpilei meu kernel com patches do bootsplash de 2 diferentes autores. Suei
 
 e suei, mas nada. Alguém teve alguma experiência semelhante??
 
 Abraços
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Re: Impressora Ricoh

2003-11-30 Thread Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra
Em Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:42:36 -0200, Boni escreveu:

 alguem teria uma dica?

http://linuxprinting.org./


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Re: Lexmark Z-45

2003-11-30 Thread Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra
Em Sun, 30 Nov 2003 15:06:55 -0200, fapec escreveu:

 quais os arquivos necessários para o suporte?

Vide http://linuxprinting.org./


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Re: Re:ide para linux

2003-11-30 Thread Leandro Guimarães Faria Corsetti Dutra
Em Sun, 30 Nov 2003 10:52:02 -0300, rafa_c escreveu:

 Glade

O Glade é um pintor de telas.


 DDD

O DDD é apenas um depurador.  Já o GNU Emacs é um IDE e muito mais...


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Re: Nautilus nao exibe maquinas Win9x/Smb

2003-11-30 Thread Stefano Martins

Rauklei P. S. Guimarães wrote:

Alguem conseguiu utilizar o Nautilus no modo Network para exibir as 
estacoes Win9x ?

Ja tentei na URL:smb://estacao ou smb:///estacao
-Versao do Nautilus e 2.4.1-3 (Woody)
Obs: Todos os pacotes Gnome-vfs ou libgnome-vfs, libgnomevfs2
Ja tentei tambem via, aplicacao/servidores de rede, que e a mesma 
coisa e nada acontece.

Obrigado a todos!
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eu sempre coloquei os mounts das outras maquinas no /etc/fstab e 
funciona muito bem, pq nao tenta? dai vc pode abrir com um navegador 
qualuqer.





qmail Re: freebsd - Re: recommended Virus Scanner?

2003-11-30 Thread Alvin Oga


On Sat, 29 Nov 2003, Tom wrote:

 On Sat, Nov 29, 2003 at 09:55:59AM -0500, Paul Morgan wrote:
  On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 04:34:43 -0800, Karsten M. Self wrote:
  
   
   Bernstein pays $500 for each verifiable security hole in qmail.
   Following the same premise as for Knuth, you should find this a
   similarly lucrative opportunity.  You might find the page detailing this
   offer of interest:
   
  http://cr.yp.to/qmail/guarantee.html
   
   
   
   Peace.
  
  Actually, the reward is for the *first* verifiable security hole in qmail.
  Six years now, and no-one's found one.
 
 I have an out: I said arbitrary *large* block of code.  When I said 
 large, I was thinking operating-system sized set of code, i.e., many 
 programs.

and you weren't in it for the $$$ ??  
(just that bugs and exploits exists? )
 
 The site itself says that people have experienced many problems with the 
 total set of programs surrounding qmail.  And that confirms my belief.

6 yrs w/o a exploitable security hole is a very good track record (
security wise )  .. wonder how many people are looking for one ..
vs it seems to be standard proceedre for everybody to go looking for
holes in sendmail :-)

smiley
and i'd hate to hire/be the dude working for 6yrs and still looking for a
security hole for the $500 :-)
/smiley

c ya
alvin


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Godel [was Re: qmail Re: freebsd - Re: recommended Virus Scanner?]

2003-11-30 Thread Tom
On Sat, Nov 29, 2003 at 11:19:37PM -0800, Alvin Oga wrote:
 and you weren't in it for the $$$ ??  
 (just that bugs and exploits exists? )

When I learned about Godel's work I really freaked out.

When I learned there are certain true statements which are not 
expressible by manipulation of symbols, and that in any sufficiently 
complex formal system there are no guarantees it won't grind out 
falsehoods, I started to see it's applicabiity everywhere around me.

(It doesn't say there are no true statements.)

Everything that happens in all aspects of life makes so much more sense 
to me once you start from that point.  Lots of unexpected events to me 
are truths that weren't expressible in somebody's system of belief.

(Again, it doesn't say that there are no true statements.)

I've been waiting for somebody to get rid of the Axiom of Choice.  A 
math prof at Stanford told me they came very close with the Lambda 
calculus and Lisp to getting past the issues I'm worried about, but I 
don't think they've nailed it yet.

Once somebody disproves Godel I will rest easy...


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APT::Default-Release doesn't seem to affect upgrades

2003-11-30 Thread Ross Boylan
I have a testing system (with a few items built from unstable
sources), and just added unstable to my apt sources.list.  As
recommended in the HOWTO, I put
APT::Default-Release testing;
in apt.conf.  I do not have an apt/preferences file.

When I tried apt-get upgrade (or dist-upgrade) it wanted to upgrade a
bunch of packages, all from unstable.  I tried commenting out unstable
from my sources.list, and apt-get upgrade becomes a no-op.

I expected apt would not use unstable unless I explicitly told it to.
What am I missing?

Many of the packages to be upgraded were from mozilla, which is
something I did build from source.  So I could sort of see this
drawing from unstable, even if I don't understand why.  But others are
definitely not like that, e..g, gnome-pim, install-doc, openuniverse.

As a side mystery, 
# apt-show-versions -a gnome-pin
Not installed
No stable version
No testing version
No unstable version
gnome-pin not installed: No available versions

But it is installed.


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SID: Webmin will not let me edit, systems users

2003-11-30 Thread John Foster
I have webmin installed from Debian.org not from the upstream developer. 
I have always been able to use it to add users, groups ,  edit them. 
Now it has a warning that I can not,  it will not let me edit the 
existing users or add new ones. What gives. I have been using it since 
before it was a debian package.

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problems installing java

2003-11-30 Thread tripolar
having problems installing java
first using apt-get or aptitude what should I install?
2) any tricks to have konqueror, mozilla, netscape find java?
3. Any links I should set up and how?
I have main non-free  contrib in my sources.list
unstable
thanks


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Re: Linux Sound Issues

2003-11-30 Thread ScruLoose
On Sat, Nov 29, 2003 at 04:37:08PM -0800, Paul Burkett wrote:

snip
 Could it
 be ext3 is just a lot slower than ext2 and can't
 handle it? Is there anything I can do to tweak this?
 Or should I move onto XFS or ResierFS? Should I buy a
 new sound card? Should I try ALSA? Any suggestions
 would be helpful. Thanks again guys and gals.
 
 System Info:
snip *more* than adequate hardware

I use alsa with an SB live value (5.1), also on ext3, and I
don't have this problem... I get a hiccup or two during an
apt[-get|itude] install, but not much else will make it skip.

So you might want to try alsa...
OR
It might be your HD settings... check hdparm, and make sure that uhh...
DMA (I think that's the parameter) is enabled.

Your hardware is twice as fast as mine, twice as much RAM, so it may be
the ALSA difference (no idea how likely that is) or it may be that
something's hitting your HD performance pretty hard... But it's
definitely not a question of needing more processor, RAM, or sound card.

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(OT) Re: Godel

2003-11-30 Thread Nicos Gollan
On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 00:00:05 -0800
Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Once somebody disproves Godel I will rest easy...

The one(s) doing this wouldn't survive the lynching parties the
theoreticians would start, and AFAIK, the Goedel stuff is rather well
proven. So don't hold your breath.

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Re: nvidia vs ati

2003-11-30 Thread Nicos Gollan
On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 00:15:32 +0100
Frank Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I recommend you to buy a video card with a nVidia chipset. Why?
 I mailed the ATI support in this summer regarding their linux drivers,
 read the answer below. For me this was very disappointing.

ATI seems to have changed their stance on Linux drivers lately. They
integrated at least part of the development with the regular Catalyst
releases and the last few drivers offered pretty good performance and
compatibility. The only problems I encountered so far are a rather
touchy AGPGART integrated driver, instability under kernel 2.6.0-testX
(although you wonder why those are running anyway) and problems with TV
overlay in conjunction with 2.6.0 kernels. 3D support absolutely rocks
and 2D performence has gotten a *lot* better in the last few months.

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Re: (OT) Re: Godel

2003-11-30 Thread Tom
On Sun, Nov 30, 2003 at 10:11:39AM +0100, Nicos Gollan wrote:
 On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 00:00:05 -0800
 Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Once somebody disproves Godel I will rest easy...
 
 The one(s) doing this wouldn't survive the lynching parties the
 theoreticians would start, and AFAIK, the Goedel stuff is rather well
 proven. So don't hold your breath.
 

Good.  I was hoping someone smart would speak up.  (I was a lousy 
mathematician which is why I switched to computers.  Much easier.)

I accept Godel.  Does it matter much in day to day life?  Or is it just 
something not to worry about.

I mean, life goes on, but if Godel is true, I kind of just keep waiting 
for the train to derail (and it usually does).  Is it an important 
result?  How does one sleep at night :-) ?

This is just one of those little things that I worry about...


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Re: nvidia vs ati

2003-11-30 Thread Elie De Brauwer
On Sunday 30 November 2003 00:15, Frank Thomas wrote:
 Gerard Ceraso wrote:
  I am planning on getting a new video card. I have a nvidia geforce2 right
  now and it works great under linux. I have not had any problems. I have
  noticed that some of the Ati cards seem to have a bit better performance
  in some of the tests on the hardware review sites. I was wondering how
  the Ati support for linux is. My system is currently has an Asus A7N8X
  Deluxe with an AMD 2400+ and 1G of 3200 ram.


Let's do some benchmarking 
I have a PIV 2.8 ghz (800 mhz fsb), 1 gig ddr 400 ram and an geforce fx 5900 
ultra with 256 meg ram. When running X at 1600x1200 resolution I get about 
4800 fps in glxgears

Any other results ?
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USB audio driver problem

2003-11-30 Thread David Selby
Good Morning

I have a quickcam pro 4000 USB webcam  with a built in microphone which 
I am trying to get working.
I have installed USB drivers, pwcx-2.4.20  pwc which give me video,

According to
/usr/src/linux-2.4.22/Documentation/philips.txt
I need to install USB audio support for the microphone to work.
I have installed the audio.o as a module  call it in /etc/module
lsmod indicates it has loaded .. and this is where I am stuck ...
There is no Kernel documentation for this module, not can I find 
anything useful in ../Documentation/devices.txt, a google trawl reveals 
little.

I am assuming I need to point my app (in this case gnomemeeting) at 
/dev/dsp, and I am assuming that the microphone audio can be read from 
there? However all is silent.

Can anyone help ? :-)

Dave

PS does anyone know of a VU meter so I can see the audio data ?









  

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Re: problems installing java

2003-11-30 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Sun, Nov 30, 2003 at 02:56:16AM -0600, tripolar wrote:
 having problems installing java
 first using apt-get or aptitude what should I install?
 2) any tricks to have konqueror, mozilla, netscape find java?
I did the following do get the java plugin working on my
testing/unstable box:

Download:
ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/languages/java/linux/JDK-1.4.1/i386/01/j2sdk-1.4.1-01-linux-i586-gcc3.2.bin

Unpack it with bash j2sdk-1.4.1-01-linux-i586-gcc3.2.bin
Move the newly created dir to /usr/local/
Include the path to the bin dir in your PATH
link the plugin into the mozilla plugin dir.

Restart mozilla and you're done.

Sven

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Re: problems installing java

2003-11-30 Thread Kristian Niemi
Well ... I don't know if there's a `debian-way' that could be used, but 
I installed it by downloading it from the web ...

From the following address, I believe: 
http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/download.html

I use Mozilla Firebird, and there I had to put a symbolic link from a 
file `from java' to Mozilla Fb's plugin-folder. I think the file was 
'/usr/java/j2re1.4.2_02/plugin/i386/ns610-gcc32'. Found out about it 
from a Mozilla.org page. I.e., for me it was done by ln -s 
/usr/java/j2re1.4.2_02/plugin/i386/ns610-gcc32 /usr/lib/mozilla-firebird/

I'd imagine Mozilla and Netscape would require a similar action; 
probably exactly the same. I haven't got a clue about konqueror though. ;)

Oh, and this shouldn't be a problem for you, since you don't use 
Firebird, but this particular build of FB that debian `has' right now 
(unstable), has a bug that doesn't allow it to show java pages. So all 
of this didn't do me any good, I'll have to wait until debian starts 
updating their 'unstable' packages again. Heh. I'd imagine Mozilla 
doesn't have a bug like this.

Krisse

tripolar wrote:
having problems installing java
first using apt-get or aptitude what should I install?
2) any tricks to have konqueror, mozilla, netscape find java?
3. Any links I should set up and how?
I have main non-free  contrib in my sources.list
unstable
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Re: unchecked 31 times

2003-11-30 Thread Jan-Marek Glogowski
Hi

That's not really a problem. The system does run the check programs
(e2fsck etc.) on every startup. These programs mainly check, if the
partition was umounted correctly. If there was a correct umount they
increase the mount counter, if not they check the full prtition and reset
the counter to 0. If the partition was mounted coorectly a fixed amount
(in the normal case 31 / ~ month), the programs force a check, and reset
the counter to 0.

I think all Linux distributions do something like that and don't enforce a
full check on bootup. So no problem with unchecked partitions.

ATB

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Re: Compiling kernel - problems

2003-11-30 Thread John Peter
Cruncher wrote:

I'm running Debian woody on a Pentium machine, installed from DVD and 
using kernel vmlinuz-2.4.18-bf2.4.
 
I'm trying to play around with different kernel settings, so I thought 
I start by recompiling this one.  I installed kernel-package and 
kernel-source-2.4.18.
 
I go to directory /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.18, and then follow the 
instructions in various Debian documents.  First one is make dep.  
This results in some errors which relate to hdc (my cdrom) the first 
one being:
 
hdc: read_intr: status=0x59 {DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error}
 
followed by various others and then the program exits with Error 135.
 
What am I doing wrong?
 
- C
 
First, go here : http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/kernel-pkg.html

put it on paper and follow every directions by the letter.
If you still have problems come back and post it with all the pertinent info
you can get.
Good luck

Cheers!

John

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Re: mailinglists and mailclient usage?

2003-11-30 Thread smurfd
Ah,cool, noticed just now, that Evolution has that basic feature too..
Thanks :)

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  Is that the way to do it?!
 
 That's one way.  Though it's easier to use your client's reply-to-list
 feature.  If yours is under-featured and doesn't have such basic
 functionality yet, I know kmail and mutt have reply-to-list
 functionality, and rumors that Sylpheed Claws does as well.
 
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Re: Linux Sound Issues

2003-11-30 Thread John Peter
Paul Burkett wrote:

I've been having a helluva time to get sound working
decently in Linux. The issue isn't so much quality
(though I do notice a slight difference in quality
compared to Windows, nothing to complain about) but
that fact that is skips whenever I do anything that
requires CPU resources. I've tried recompiling the
kernel to make it more efficient and I've tried using
the latest drivers from Creative. It doesn't skip as
much but there are times when it does skip when
playing an mp3. Usually it happens when I'm running
any apt tools. Now I don't know if it is so much the
fault of the CPU (an AMD Tbird 1GHz) or the soundcard
(a POS SB Live), but I do notice kjournald running in
the background when I check it out using top. Could it
be ext3 is just a lot slower than ext2 and can't
handle it? Is there anything I can do to tweak this?
Or should I move onto XFS or ResierFS? Should I buy a
new sound card? Should I try ALSA? Any suggestions
would be helpful. Thanks again guys and gals.
System Info:

AMD 1GHz Thunderbird
512MB of RAM
Running KDE
Ext3 Filesystem
Kernel 2.4.22 compiled for i686
Debian Unstable
40GB Maxtor 740DX HDD Dedicated to Linux
SB Live! Sound Card (OEM)
Via686B Chipset (Abit KT7A-RAID MB)
AFAIK I didn't have this problem in Mandrake 8 but
that was so long ago.
 

Hi, Paul

I also have the same card, 1.3Ghz processor and ATA 100 disk
and it does eventually hik up now and then...
I'm ussing the OSS drivers.
I think we have to fidlle with the priorities of the prog. processing sound.
I use noatun.
Still didn't have time to think about this subject but I think I'll give 
it a try.
I'll post if anything comes out of this ...

John

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kde 3 on testing/unstable -- newbie query

2003-11-30 Thread Dr. Sharukh K. R. Pavri.
I am a newbie to debian (former RH user.) I have a set of woody CDs. I
installed a base system, upgrade to testing using the go-woody script.

I then installed X with apt-get install x-window-system. I now have a
working X install with twm.

I now want to install kde 3.1.4 (it's present in knoppix). I added the
line 

deb http://download.kde.org/stable/3.1.4/Debian stable main

to /etc/apt/sources.list and ran apt-get update. Unfortunately when I run
apt-get install kde I get the following errors:


Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that
the package is simply not installable and a bug report against
that package should be filed.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
  kde: Depends: kdelibs3 but it is not installable
   Depends: libarts but it is not installable or
libarts-alsa but it is not installable or
libarts-bin but it is not installable
   Depends: libkmid but it is not installable or
libkmid-alsa but it is not installable or
libkmid-bin but it is not installable
   Depends: kdebase but it is not going to be installed or
kdebase3 but it is not installable
   Depends: kdebase-audiolibs but it is not installable or
kdebase3-audiolibs but it is not installable
   Depends: kdebase-libs but it is not installable or
kdebase3-libs but it is not installable
   Depends: kdebase-doc but it is not installable or
kdebase3-doc but it is not installable
   Depends: kab but it is not installable
   Depends: kpm but it is not installable
   Depends: kfract but it is not installable
E: Broken packages
--

What am I doing wrong ? I really would like to start working with kde on
my debian install.

any pointers would be welcome.

Sharukh.

ps: speaking of knoppix, the line for kde in sources.list is commented
out.
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Now We Are Rollin'

2003-11-30 Thread Scarletdown
I finally fixed my XF86 problems at last.  It seems
that all I had to 
do to stop both the flickering and the crashing is
lower the default 
resolution and color depth.  Previously, I was running
1024x768 24-
Bit color.  Changing to 800x600 16-Bit color seems to
have done the 
trick.  It's kind of a bummer not being able to use
the higher 
settings (since a 4MB S3 Virge should be able to
handle it just 
fine), but it is worth the trade-off, and both the
GNOME and KDE 
desktops look really nice now.  Perhaps one of these
days I will 
score a cheap used 8MB PCI video card at one of the
thrift stores, 
then I can give the higher resolutions another go.

I also managed to get GDM configured and customized to
my tastes, and 
I went ahead and set it up so I could log in directly
as root if I 
feel like it.  I know that that is a security
vulnerability, but this 
is my experimentation platform.  And when and if I do
start setting 
up Debian systems for other people, I will of course
configure them 
so that they can only operate as root by logging in
normally and then 
using su to become root.  Heck, I'll be doing that for
my primary 
workstation as well.

So much to still tweak now, it's hard to fecide what
to work on next. 
 Actually, I think the next thing I will do is get my
Samba 
configuration file properly set up.  She is visible on
the LAN 
already, but I still need to define some shares, and
also set her up 
so she automatically mounts shared folders on the
LAN's other three 
systems (currently Windows-98 all of them) at boot
time.

After that, I think it will be time to optimize her by
deactivating 
services she doesn't need to have running,
uninstalling extraneous 
packages, and installing packages I may have missed
initially.

Other plans for this system will include possibly
trying to compile 
the 2.4.22 kernel and then giving SE Linux a try (that
is Security 
Enhanced Linux, freely available from the NSA)

http://www.nsa.gov/selinux/index.html

Anyway, it's been a good evening, Linuxwise this time
around.  Now I 
can go to bed with the feeling that I have gained some
major 
experience points.  :)


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Re: I have xp 2000-and aol as my carrier-

2003-11-30 Thread Hoyt Bailey

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Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2003 19:07
Subject: Re: I have xp 2000-and aol as my carrier-


 On Sat, 2003-11-29 at 20:40, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  My cd movies  I can't hear,my you've got mail,no longer
  works-goodbye-when logging off--What is the problem?
 
 
 Maybe xp 2000 and aol as your carrier???
 
sounds about right.


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Re: Mounting disks

2003-11-30 Thread Paul Morgan
James Hosken wrote:

Quoting Paul Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 

On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 11:46:13 +, James Hosken wrote:

   

Quoting Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 

On Wed, Nov 26, 2003 at 07:03:57PM +, James Hosken wrote:

   

mount -t ext2 /dev/hdb5 /mnt/old-disk/

and I get the error

mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdb5,
  or too many mounted file systems
I'm pritty sure that it is the right file systems, I was using Mandrake
 

8.1
   

standard setup. I think the disk may be a bit dodgy. Is there any thing
 

that I
   

can do? I know there are several superblocks for this soer of thing.
 

Well, starting from the end:  how many filesystems do you have mounted?

Run fdisk or cfdisk on /dev/hdb and see what partition type /dev/hdb5
really is.
If it's ext2, run e2fsck on it.
   

Thanks for the reply, it is hdb8 that I'm really intrested in rather than
 

hdb5
   

Here's he result from fdisk

Disk /dev/hdb: 41.1 GB, 41174138880 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 5005 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
  Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
/dev/hdb1   * 117 510 3164805b  W95 FAT32
/dev/hdb2 511500536106087+   f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)
/dev/hdb5 511 573  506016   83  Linux
/dev/hdb6 574 604  248976   82  Linux swap
/dev/hdb7 605 986 3068383+  83  Linux
/dev/hdb8 987500532282586   83  Linux
Here is the result from fsck /dev/hdb8

fsck 1.35-WIP (21-Aug-2003)
e2fsck 1.35-WIP (21-Aug-2003)
fsck.ext2: Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read
 

while tr
   

ying to open /dev/hdb8
Could this be a zero-length partition?


I have run fsck on hdb5 and hdb7 as well and they come back with the same
 

error.
   

Any surgestions?
Thanks
 

James,

What happens if you try to mount any of these without specifying a type? 
And, if mount is successful, what did it mount it as?

Example - what's the output from this?

mount /dev/hdb5 /mnt/old-disk/
mount | grep /mnt/old-disk
   



I have tried  that before, here the output

fork:/etc/apache# mount /dev/hdb5 /mnt/old-disk/
/dev/hdb5: Input/output error
mount: mount point /mnt/old-disk/ does not exist


I know that there are multiple superblock incase one gets knackered, would using
one of these help? How do I do that?
Is there a way of finding the superblocks?
James

 

James,

You must have mistakenly sent this to me rather than the list.

You could run mke2fs -n ... which would tell you where it would put the 
superblocks if it built the filesystem (-n tells it not to actually do 
it).  Then you could try giving one of those superblock values to mount. 
However, as it was built on a different system and we don't know the 
parameters mke2fs used to build it, there are no guarantees, but it's 
worth a try.  See man mke2fs.

I assume that sfdisk thinks that your partition table is OK.  I mean, I 
assume that you are sure that the issue is the filesystem.

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Re: Unable to reach greeter screen

2003-11-30 Thread Hoyt Bailey

- Original Message - 
From: Hoyt Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: debian-user [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2003 21:32
Subject: Unable to reach greeter screen


 I had to reinstall libernet 2.7 due to apg-get refusing to install,
remove,
 or ignore a program.  After reinstall things looked good and I started to
 rebuild.  I did a update and upgrade which went well.  Then I went to KDE
 and started pkg manager and did 2 or 3 sessions of installing various
 programs, which also went well.  Then apitude falted on a program while
 installing after downloading and hung, would not continue. I exited and
 later returned and did a apt-get update  apt-get install and three
 different programs were downloaded and none were installed.  Then I
 discovered that I could not enter gnome or KDE because startx put me into
 icewm instead of the greeter. I discovered that I no longer had gdm, kdm
or
 xdm.  Therefore I downloaded gdm and still could now get into gdm.  Then I
 edited gdm config file and tryed again. No luck.  I would like to get back
 to the greeter so I can select KDE or Gnome . How?
 Regards;
 Hoyt

I just went back to debian and the system came up just like I wanted so this
is void.
Hoyt



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Re: Now We Are Rollin'

2003-11-30 Thread Paul Morgan
On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 02:43:25 -0800, Scarletdown wrote:

 I finally fixed my XF86 problems at last.  It seems
 that all I had to 
 do to stop both the flickering and the crashing is
 lower the default 
 resolution and color depth.  Previously, I was running
 1024x768 24-
 Bit color.  Changing to 800x600 16-Bit color seems to
 have done the 
 trick.  It's kind of a bummer not being able to use
 the higher 
 settings (since a 4MB S3 Virge should be able to
 handle it just 
 fine), but it is worth the trade-off, and both the
 GNOME and KDE 
 desktops look really nice now.  Perhaps one of these
 days I will 
 score a cheap used 8MB PCI video card at one of the
 thrift stores, 
 then I can give the higher resolutions another go.
 
 I also managed to get GDM configured and customized to
 my tastes, and 
 I went ahead and set it up so I could log in directly
 as root if I 
 feel like it.  I know that that is a security
 vulnerability, but this 
 is my experimentation platform.  And when and if I do
 start setting 
 up Debian systems for other people, I will of course
 configure them 
 so that they can only operate as root by logging in
 normally and then 
 using su to become root.  Heck, I'll be doing that for
 my primary 
 workstation as well.
 
 So much to still tweak now, it's hard to fecide what
 to work on next. 
  Actually, I think the next thing I will do is get my
 Samba 
 configuration file properly set up.  She is visible on
 the LAN 
 already, but I still need to define some shares, and
 also set her up 
 so she automatically mounts shared folders on the
 LAN's other three 
 systems (currently Windows-98 all of them) at boot
 time.
 
 After that, I think it will be time to optimize her by
 deactivating 
 services she doesn't need to have running,
 uninstalling extraneous 
 packages, and installing packages I may have missed
 initially.
 
 Other plans for this system will include possibly
 trying to compile 
 the 2.4.22 kernel and then giving SE Linux a try (that
 is Security 
 Enhanced Linux, freely available from the NSA)
 
 http://www.nsa.gov/selinux/index.html
 
 Anyway, it's been a good evening, Linuxwise this time
 around.  Now I 
 can go to bed with the feeling that I have gained some
 major 
 experience points.  :)
 
 

You have a fair chance of gaining some unexpected experience points by
logging into X as root, unless you are unplugging all external network
devices first.  Not allowing root access to X is pretty much at the top of
my never, ever do this under any circumstances list.  There are several
ways in which you can get hurt, none of which I wish to advertise in an
open forum.

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util-linux and mount w/ linux 2.4.23 crypto

2003-11-30 Thread David Butts
Hello, folks-

I recently upgraded to a 2.4.23 kernel on an otherwise vanilla sarge
install (sparc64, though I suspect this to be general to all of the
supported archs), and discovered that the default mount package
(2.12-3) doesn't seem to handle the new CryptoAPI interface.

Although the usage claims to support the new /proc/crypto interface,
the source code for lomount.c refers only to the older, nested tree
under /proc/crypto/ciphers.

Based on the (fairly acrimonious) discussion that took place on the
cryptoapi-devel list in february[1], there seems to be a fair amount
of controversy surrounding how best to handle the new api, as well
as significant differences between distros.

Given that ftp.kernel.org only has util-linux 2.12pre sources, I'm
not expecting there to be any official word, but I was hoping that
there were some opinions on which of the various patches out there
are most appropriate for a sarge/2.4.23 combination:

  Ben Slusky's:
http://www.spinics.net/lists/crypto/msg02271.html
http://www.stwing.org/~sluskyb/util-linux/

  Fruhwirth Clemens':
http://www.kerneli.org/pipermail/cryptoapi-devel/2003-February/000451.html
http://clemens.endorphin.org/patches/

  Jari Ruusu's:
http://www.kerneli.org/pipermail/cryptoapi-devel/2003-February/000464.html

Thanks,
David

[1] http://www.kerneli.org/pipermail/cryptoapi-devel/2003-February/000451.html


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Re: problems installing java

2003-11-30 Thread Jiele
tripolar wrote:
having problems installing java
first using apt-get or aptitude what should I install?
2) any tricks to have konqueror, mozilla, netscape find java?
3. Any links I should set up and how?
I have main non-free  contrib in my sources.list
unstable
thanks

This is what I did.

There are some java mirror below:
http://www.blackdown.org/java-linux/mirrors.html
Add some to your source list, and you can apt-get java stuff.

There is a debian java howto somewhere, but I can't remember where it is 
now.

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apt-get problem (on debian sid)

2003-11-30 Thread Tim Broddin
Since some days I don't get any upgradable packages when doing an
apt-get update  apt-get dist-upgrade (0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0
to remove and 3 not upgraded). 

First I thought it had something to do with an old Packages file being
cached in the proxy server.

I then did a grep on the Packages file for gaim (which I knew was at
version 0.72) and it showed up correctly.

I have this idea that my local package database might be broken (?)
since it's impossible that there haven't been any package updates to sid
last week.

Anyone has any ideas on fixing this?

Kind regards

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Re: apt-get problem (on debian sid)

2003-11-30 Thread Albert Dengg
On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 13:32:56 +0100
Tim Broddin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
 I have this idea that my local package database might be broken (?)
 since it's impossible that there haven't been any package updates to
 sid last week.
 
 Anyone has any ideas on fixing this?
...
Hi
It is possible and is tue the compromise of some debian project servers
(this was also discussed on this listif you take a look at
incoming.debian.org you will see that there are packages hanging
there...so be patient and wait until all problems are fixed...
(for more information have a look at the maillinglist)

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Re: nvidia vs ati

2003-11-30 Thread Roberto Sanchez
Elie De Brauwer wrote:
On Sunday 30 November 2003 00:15, Frank Thomas wrote:

Gerard Ceraso wrote:

I am planning on getting a new video card. I have a nvidia geforce2 right
now and it works great under linux. I have not had any problems. I have
noticed that some of the Ati cards seem to have a bit better performance
in some of the tests on the hardware review sites. I was wondering how
the Ati support for linux is. My system is currently has an Asus A7N8X
Deluxe with an AMD 2400+ and 1G of 3200 ram.

Let's do some benchmarking 
I have a PIV 2.8 ghz (800 mhz fsb), 1 gig ddr 400 ram and an geforce fx 5900 
ultra with 256 meg ram. When running X at 1600x1200 resolution I get about 
4800 fps in glxgears

Any other results ?
Athlon XP 2500+ (233 MHz FSB, or 333, but I don't remember)
1 GB RAM
Raden 9000 Pro 128 MB
nForce2 chipset (I know, nVidia + ATi == bad)
X 4,3, 1280x1024
glxgears w/dri: 2400 fps
glxgears w/ATi driver: 1920 fps
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Re: Linux Sound Issues

2003-11-30 Thread Ismael Valladolid Torres
El sábado, 29 de noviembre de 2003, a las 16:37, Paul Burkett escribió:
 Should I buy a new sound card? Should I try ALSA? Any suggestions

Yes, you should try ALSA. You also can try recompiling your kernel
including one (or both) low latency patches. As you are running
unstable, you can easily do this using make-kpkg, as the patches are
packaged.

$ apt-cache show kernel-patch-2.4-lowlatency kernel-patch-2.4-preempt

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Re: tuning the machine after a knoppix install... keyboard in X, sources.list and using

2003-11-30 Thread Joris Huizer
Jacob S. wrote:

On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:40:29 +0100
Joris Huizer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
 

Now, its STILL a mess! in X, the keyboard seems to have some kind of 
german setup I ve never seen before (and which wasnt there at all when

booting with knoppix), the sources.list is one big mess of illegal
lines or something , it gives an hole lot of errors, and the kdm login
program sucks
   

In KDE, click on the German flag in the lower right corner by the
clock until it shows a US flag. Now you should be back to an English
keyboard. To make this change permanent, open the Control Center and
change the Region, Accessibility and Language and Keyboard Layout
settings under Regional  Accessibility. 
 

Thanks, that solved the first problem allright..

Can you copy and paste some of the apt-get errors for us? Sorry, there
are too many possibilities for us to know which error messages you're
seeing on your screen.
 

I tried to fix the /etc/apt/sources.list but obviously that didn't solve 
anything.. I attached the sources.list and the `apt update` output.
Can anybody tell me what to change - or, better - can someone post his 
(her?) version of /etc/apt/sources.list with - at least, stable and 
testing lines, for both binary packages and source packages ?

I'm hoping to get this knoppix installation to use gdm instead of kdm
(I don't like the fact kdm lists the users on the login screen!), and to 
allow me to choose between kde, gnome, and fluxbox;

Can anybody help me in these steps? I couldn't find that much on knoppix 
~ 'clean' debian steps... ?

Thanks for your help,

Joris Huizer
# See sources.list(5) for more information, especialy
# Remember that you can only use http, ftp or file URIs
# CDROMs are managed through the apt-cdrom tool.

# Security updates for stable
deb http://security.debian.org stable/updates main contrib 
deb http://security.debian.org testing/updates main contrib 

# Stable
deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/pub/debian stable main contrib 
deb http://ftp.nl.debian.org/pub/debian-non-US stable/non-US main contrib 


# Stable
deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/pub/debian stable main contrib
deb http://ftp.nl.debian.org/pub/debian-non-US stable/non-US main contrib
#deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/pub/debian stable main contrib non-free
#deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/pub/debian-non-US stable/non-US main contrib non-free

# Sources
deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/pub/debian stable main contrib 
deb-src http://ftp.nl.debian.org/pub/debian-non-US stable/non-US main contrib
#deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/pub/debian stable main contrib non-free
#deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/pub/debian-non-US stable/non-US main contrib non-free

# Testing
#deb http://ftp.debian.org/pub/debian testing main contrib non-free
#deb http://ftp.debian.org/pub/debian-non-US testing/non-US main contrib non-free
#deb http://ftp.debian.org/pub/debian testing main contrib non-free
#deb http://ftp.debian.org/pub/debian-non-US testing/non-US main contrib non-free

# Sources
#deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/pub/debian testing main contrib non-free
#deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/pub/debian-non-US testing/non-US main contrib non-free

# Unstable
# deb http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free
# deb http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian-non-US unstable/non-US main contrib non-free

# Sources
#deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free
#deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian-non-US unstable/non-US main contrib non-free

# Experimental
# deb http://debian.uni-essen.de/debian ../project/experimental main contrib non-free
# deb-src http://debian.uni-essen.de/debian ../project/experimental main contrib 
non-free

# GNOME 2.0
# deb http://www.gnome.nl/debian/ ./

# KDE 3
# deb http://ktown.kde.org/~nolden/kde stable main
# deb-src http://ktown.kde.org/~nolden/kde stable main
# We get packages from testing/unstable for now

# cdbakeoven
# deb http://coyote.asoc.euitt.upm.es/mud/debian/ ./

# XFree 4.2/4.3
# deb http://people.debian.org/~branden/packages sid/i386/
# deb-src http://people.debian.org/~branden/packages sid/source/
# deb http://www.penguinppc.org/~daniels/sid/i386 ./
# deb-src http://www.penguinppc.org/~daniels/sid/source ./

# Java
# deb ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/languages/java/linux/debian woody main non-free
# deb-src ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/languages/java/linux/debian woody main non-free
# deb ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/languages/java/linux/debian unstable main non-free
# deb-src ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/languages/java/linux/debian unstable main non-free
# deb http://people.debian.org/~sgybas/jdk13

# LyX  others (now in debian/unstable)
# deb ftp://ntama.uni-mainz.de/pub/debian unofficial/
# deb-src ftp://ntama.uni-mainz.de/pub/debian unofficial/

# Evolution
#deb ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/debian stable main
#deb-src ftp://ftp.ximian.com/pub/debian stable main

# Blades Repository (pppoeconf  co)
# deb http://people.debian.org/~blade/testing ./
# deb-src http://people.debian.org/~blade/testing ./

# deb 

Re: Getting CDRW to work in Debian

2003-11-30 Thread Paul Morgan
On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 01:08:04 -0500, Walter Dnes wrote:

   I have a DVD (hdc) and a CDRW (hdd) on a machine.  The only defined
 mount is /cdrom, which is actually the DVD.  In Redhat, I simply added
 append=hdc=ide-scsi hdd=ide-scsi to lilo.conf, ran lilo and re-boot
 and both of them worked as did cdrecord.  This does not work in Debian
 (2.4.18-bf2.4).  Further Googling suggested that I add a line to
 modules.conf.  Looking at modules.conf, I saw dire warnings against
 manual editing, and that I was to use update-modles instead.  According
 to the manpage, I'm supposed to create a file in /etc/modutils.  There
 are, however, no examples whatsoever.  Can somebody who's gotten a
 similar setup running please post their files? Thanks.
 
   Alternatively, there's supposed to be undocumented native support for
 ATAPI devices in cdrecord; has anybody figured that out?

Create a file in /etc/modutils containing the following:

options ide-cd ignore=\hdc hdd\
alias scd0 sr_mod
alias scd1 sr_mod
pre-install sg modprobe ide-scsi
pre-install sr_mod modprobe ide-scsi

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Re: Man pages in unstable don't display right--third try

2003-11-30 Thread Curt Daugaard
I had originally set locale to utf8 but have since reverted to 
en_US.ISO-8859-1 (via 'dpkg-reconfigure locales').  The man pages are 
still screwed up.  Is there some further step I need to take?

I tried searching Debian mailing list archives but couldn't find the 
posts you mention.

Thanks.

Curt

duck wrote:

On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 12:10:12 +0100, Curt Daugaard wrote:

 

The majority of the man pages I bring up display raw escape characters.  
Some exceptions are calendar, finger, and hd.  The pager is most.

This happens at the console and in xterms.

Can anyone point me to a possible cause?
   

...

i had problem with man pages with the locale set to utf8 if that helps. i
think it was mentioned on one list or other some time ago. search the
archives.
 



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Re: problem loading ide-scsi module

2003-11-30 Thread dooble M
Paul Morgan a écrit :

On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 22:02:11 +0100, dooble M wrote:

 

hi everybody, I'm new on this list !

I'm runing with woody and i'm trying to use my ide cd-burner.
Since I read that I need scsi emulation to make it work, I just 
recompiled my kernel (2.4.22 with make-kpkg) with sg, sr, ide-scsi, and 
without ide-cd, all as modules.
My burner is hdd, so I added the line: append=hdd=ide-scsi to my 
lilo.conf (and ran lilo after).
The kernel is working well, when I run modconf and add the scsi_mod, 
sr_mod and sg modules, the modules are loaded normaly and i see them 
with lsmod:

# lsmod
Module  Size  Used byNot tainted
isofs  18764   0  (autoclean)
snd-pcm-oss39716   0  (autoclean) (unused)
snd-pcm60740   0  (autoclean) [snd-pcm-oss]
snd-timer  15268   0  (autoclean) [snd-pcm]
snd-page-alloc  6228   0  (autoclean) [snd-pcm]
snd-mixer-oss  13592   0  (autoclean) [snd-pcm-oss]
autofs410324   2  (autoclean)
snd29476   0  [snd-pcm-oss snd-pcm snd-timer 
snd-mixer-oss]
soundcore   3876   0  [snd]
nls_iso8859-1   2844   2  (autoclean)
vfat   10828   1  (autoclean)
fat32728   0  (autoclean) [vfat]
serial 46788   0  (autoclean)
sg 28924   0  (unused)
sr_mod 14328   0  (unused)
scsi_mod   58804   2  [sg sr_mod]
cdrom  29248   0  [sr_mod]
parport_pc 13700   1  (autoclean)
lp  6496   0  (unused)
parport14688   1  [parport_pc lp]
af_packet  10600   0  (unused)

but when I try to load the module ide-scsi with modconf, I get an 
installation failed, and a few seconds after, a lot of code with 
something like that at the end:
Code: Bad EIP Value
Kernel panic: aiee...

then my system freezes and i'm forced to push the reset button.

I already made a lot of researches over the web, without success.
Help !!
Thanks in advance and sorry for my english.
dooble M
   

It looks like you're loading modules in the wrong order.

See the CD-Burning HowTo.

 

Thanks, but it does exactly the same when I load the ide-scsi module 
first. I'll check again the archives and I'll try to compile another 
kernel version.
Thanks again.
dooble M

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Re: questions/comments about new sarge installer LILO

2003-11-30 Thread Paul Morgan
On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 19:42:43 -0600, tripolar wrote:

 I have used the new sarge installer alot in the last week and am pretty
 impressed. Thanks to all responsible.
 A few things that seem different are
 1) the way discs are labeled in lilo
 for example:
 /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/disc
 I am guessing because Debian is the Universal OS and all the different
 platforms it supports has warranted this change from /dev/hda1.
 I need to figure out how to get lilo to pick up and boot /dev/hda2.
 I ran lilo after editing lilo.conf- it didnt pick up m$ partition and
 commented about name change because I used /dev/hda2 versus
 .../target0/lun0/disc 
 Where are docs about /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/disc naming
 scheme?
 
 2)I was surprised to see lilo start straight way without any prompt nor
 any delay. maybe I did something wrong :-)

You have devfs installed, hence the new naming scheme.  You should still
be able to use the old /dev/hdXX sceme in lilo if you wish.

Info on devfs from the author:

http://www.atnf.csiro.au/people/rgooch/linux/docs/devfs.html

You don't have to mess with devfs generally.  You can just leave it as it
is.  It is, on the whole, a Good Thing (tm).


Re your second question, examine your lilo.conf file.

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Re: problems installing java

2003-11-30 Thread Ismael Valladolid Torres
El domingo, 30 de noviembre de 2003, a las 02:56, tripolar escribió:
 having problems installing java

I assume you mean installing the java plug-in for your browser.

 first using apt-get or aptitude what should I install?

If you were using woody, things would be easy, just make your
sources.list point to one of www.blackdown.org mirrors, and apt-get
install j2re1.3.

As you are using sid, things get trickier. Packaged browsers are
compiled using current sid gcc version which is 3.2, where packaged
Blackdown j2re packages are still compiled using gcc 2.95, and they
simply won't work together. In this case you can download, also from
one of their mirrors, the latest tarball, this compiled using the same
gcc version sid features, but check out, you will have to RTFM in
order to install the plug-in manually.

ftp://ftp.tux.org/packages/java/JDK-1.4.1/i386/01/j2re-1.4.1-01-linux-i586-gcc3.2.bin

Remember to ldd the plug-in to check if your system lacks needed
libraries!

Lastly, if you are not running on Intel, forget about this, for the
moment. :)

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Re: nvidia vs ati

2003-11-30 Thread Paul Morgan
On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 10:12:07 +0100, Elie De Brauwer wrote:

 On Sunday 30 November 2003 00:15, Frank Thomas wrote:
 Gerard Ceraso wrote:
  I am planning on getting a new video card. I have a nvidia geforce2 right
  now and it works great under linux. I have not had any problems. I have
  noticed that some of the Ati cards seem to have a bit better performance
  in some of the tests on the hardware review sites. I was wondering how
  the Ati support for linux is. My system is currently has an Asus A7N8X
  Deluxe with an AMD 2400+ and 1G of 3200 ram.

 
 Let's do some benchmarking 
 I have a PIV 2.8 ghz (800 mhz fsb), 1 gig ddr 400 ram and an geforce fx 5900 
 ultra with 256 meg ram. When running X at 1600x1200 resolution I get about 
 4800 fps in glxgears
 
 Any other results ?

AMD Athlon 1.34 GHz, 233MHz FSB
1GB DDR266 nonreg
ATI XPERT 2000 AGP 32MB
X 4.2.1, 1600x1200

4030 fps

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Re: problems installing java

2003-11-30 Thread jqdkf
On Sun, Nov 30, 2003 at 11:34:15AM +0200, Kristian Niemi wrote:
 Well ... I don't know if there's a `debian-way' that could be used, but 
 I installed it by downloading it from the web ...
 
 From the following address, I believe: 
 http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/download.html
 
 I use Mozilla Firebird, and there I had to put a symbolic link from a 
 file `from java' to Mozilla Fb's plugin-folder. I think the file was 
 '/usr/java/j2re1.4.2_02/plugin/i386/ns610-gcc32'. Found out about it 
 from a Mozilla.org page. I.e., for me it was done by ln -s 
 /usr/java/j2re1.4.2_02/plugin/i386/ns610-gcc32 /usr/lib/mozilla-firebird/
 
 I'd imagine Mozilla and Netscape would require a similar action; 
 probably exactly the same. I haven't got a clue about konqueror though. ;)
 
 Oh, and this shouldn't be a problem for you, since you don't use 
 Firebird, but this particular build of FB that debian `has' right now 
 (unstable), has a bug that doesn't allow it to show java pages. So all 
 of this didn't do me any good, I'll have to wait until debian starts 
 updating their 'unstable' packages again. Heh. I'd imagine Mozilla 
 doesn't have a bug like this.
 

I use the same version as you and java works fine. Maybe you should link
libjavaplugin_oji.so to /usr/lib/mozilla-firebird/plugins/ instead of 
mozilla-firebird.

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Re: nvidia vs ati

2003-11-30 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 10:12:07 +0100, 
Elie De Brauwer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 On Sunday 30 November 2003 00:15, Frank Thomas wrote:
  Gerard Ceraso wrote:
   I am planning on getting a new video card. I have a nvidia
   geforce2 right now and it works great under linux. I have not had
   any problems. I have noticed that some of the Ati cards seem to
   have a bit better performance in some of the tests on the hardware
   review sites. I was wondering how the Ati support for linux is. My
   system is currently has an Asus A7N8X Deluxe with an AMD 2400+ and
   1G of 3200 ram.
 
 
 Let's do some benchmarking 
 I have a PIV 2.8 ghz (800 mhz fsb), 1 gig ddr 400 ram and an geforce
 fx 5900 ultra with 256 meg ram. When running X at 1600x1200 resolution
 I get about 4800 fps in glxgears

..and when you run it full screen at 1600x1200?

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Re: Spamassassin, woody, tricked

2003-11-30 Thread Tom Allison
Scott Ehrlich wrote:
Well, the link to
http://dman13.dyndns.org/~dman/config_docs/exim-spamassassin/node11.html
was helpful, but my email, I've discovered, is not properly getting
spam-tagged.
I sent myself spam email from another account and it was getting caught,
but I didn't realize the other account had spamassassin running and was
tagging the email, thus the false impression when I redirected it to my
home account.
So now, I have exim 3 updated with the rules, but don't know what add next
(exim.conf and/or .procmailrc) to actually tag email.
I've tried adding /usr/bin/spamc at the top of my .procmailrc but that did
nothing.
Any additional help would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

Scott




Set the logging to verbose=yes and see what the logs tell you.  You 
should get a procmail log entry for every statement that the email hits, 
including filtering line (* [EMAIL PROTECTED]) and 
executables (| /usr/bin/spamc).

If you have the logging turned on, the procmail logs will indicate that 
it ran spamc and the results may also be posted depending on the 
logging/debugging level you have spamassassin set to.

Whenever debugging, turn everything up a high debug level and work your 
way down from there.

It is a ton of data coming off into the logs, but you need that when 
you're in the dark.

Start with that.  If spamc/spamd is running, it will tell you.  If 
something is failing in the code and quiting early, it will tell you. 
If it succeeds, it will tell you with the resuling scores, time to 
complete, blah..blah..blah..



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fetchmail problem (maybe bug)

2003-11-30 Thread Christian Schoenebeck
Hi!

I'm using fetchmail 5.9.11-6.2 from woody since a while without any problems, 
but now mail retrieval fails with the following error messages:

fetchmail: POP3 RETR 1
fetchmail: POP3 -ERR cannot open disk file error 2
fetchmail: cannot open disk file error 2
fetchmail: POP3 QUIT
fetchmail: POP3 +OK POP3 server closing connection
fetchmail: client/server protocol error while fetching from mail.epost.de
fetchmail: 5.9.11 querying mail.epost.de (protocol POP3) at Sun 30 Nov 2003
14:40:45 CET: poll completed
fetchmail: Query status=4 (PROTOCOL)
fetchmail: normal termination, status 4

This happened from one day to another without changing anything. I have plenty 
enogh of disk space and also plenty enough free inodes so I'm clueless what 
this could be or what I could do to fix it. Perhaps my mail provider changed 
something, but I can read and download my mails directly with kmail without 
any problems.

As it claims to be a 'protocol error' I also tried IMAP, but then I get the 
following error messages:

fetchmail: client/server synchronization error while fetching from
mail.epost.de
fetchmail: 5.9.11 querying mail.epost.de (protocol IMAP) at Sun 30 Nov 2003
14:54:17 CET: poll completed
fetchmail: Query status=7 (ERROR)
fetchmail: normal termination, status 7

Any ideas or suggestions appreciated!

Please reply directly to me, because I'm not subscribed to the list at the 
moment.

Thanks
Christian


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Re: Hot to be a Guru

2003-11-30 Thread Ismael Valladolid Torres
El sábado, 29 de noviembre de 2003, a las 22:05, Brendan Sleight escribió:
 I would be interested in how other people have made
 the step passed newbie.

Socrates never did.

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Re: Improved Debian Project Emergency Communications

2003-11-30 Thread John Hasler
Monique wrote:
 Agreed.  But I wanted to be clear, both to you and to everyone else, that
 slashdot's front page is *not* in any way guaranteed to be accurate.
 Taking any of their blurbs at face value tends to make an ass out of you
 ...

Same applies to the front page of any newspaper.
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Re: Now We Are Rollin'

2003-11-30 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 02:43:25 -0800 (PST), 
Scarletdown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Previously, I was running 1024x768 24-Bit color.  Changing to 800x600
 16-Bit color seems to have done the trick.  It's kind of a bummer not
 being able to use the higher settings (since a 4MB S3 Virge should be
 able to handle it just fine), 

..I run 1152x864x16 on my 2MB ati card and an embedded 
Cirrus Logic GD 5480 (rev 23), and 1024x768x16 on an 
Cirrus Logic GD 5465 [Laguna] (rev 03), it runs out of vram.

..you wanna stay at 16, possibly 15 bit color, and hike up your
resolution until it flickers.  With 800x600 you oughtta get 24 bit 
working.

 but it is worth the trade-off, and both
 the GNOME and KDE desktops look really nice now.  Perhaps one of these
 days I will score a cheap used 8MB PCI video card at one of the thrift
 stores, then I can give the higher resolutions another go.

..I run my ati 3D Rage IIC AGP (rev 7a) at 1600x1200x24bit, is as far as
I can push it until someone advices me how I gun up the card from 162MHz
to 230MHz. And 1600x1200 I guess is too far for accellerated graphics.

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Re: Godel [was Re: qmail Re: freebsd - Re: recommended Virus Scanner?]

2003-11-30 Thread Carl Fink
On Sun, Nov 30, 2003 at 12:00:05AM -0800, Tom wrote:

 ... that in any sufficiently complex formal system there are no guarantees
 it won't grind out falsehoods ...

But Goedel's Theorem actually says that in any formal system, there will be
true propositions that cannot be proved (without going outside the system). 
Nothing I've seen about grinding out falsehoods.
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Re: problem loading ide-scsi module

2003-11-30 Thread Gregory K. Johnson
Alf Werder [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 There were a similar thread some days ago. I *think* the problem was a
 known issue with the kernel 2.4.22. Check the archives for this or give
 2.4.23 a try.

The problem was in 2.4.22-3. The changelog for 2.4.22-4 reads:

  * Fixed initialisation lockup in drivers/scsi/ide-scsi.c
(bk, closes: #213663).

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please send me the software

2003-11-30 Thread VitoPower




Re: nvidia vs ati

2003-11-30 Thread Elie De Brauwer
On Sunday 30 November 2003 15:05, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
 On Sun, 30 Nov 2003 10:12:07 +0100,
 Elie De Brauwer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  On Sunday 30 November 2003 00:15, Frank Thomas wrote:
   Gerard Ceraso wrote:
I am planning on getting a new video card. I have a nvidia
geforce2 right now and it works great under linux. I have not had
any problems. I have noticed that some of the Ati cards seem to
have a bit better performance in some of the tests on the hardware
review sites. I was wondering how the Ati support for linux is. My
system is currently has an Asus A7N8X Deluxe with an AMD 2400+ and
1G of 3200 ram.
 
  Let's do some benchmarking
  I have a PIV 2.8 ghz (800 mhz fsb), 1 gig ddr 400 ram and an geforce
  fx 5900 ultra with 256 meg ram. When running X at 1600x1200 resolution
  I get about 4800 fps in glxgears

 ..and when you run it full screen at 1600x1200?

nope, default size 
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Re: APT::Default-Release doesn't seem to affect upgrades

2003-11-30 Thread Jamin W. Collins
On Sun, Nov 30, 2003 at 12:25:06AM -0800, Ross Boylan wrote:
 I have a testing system (with a few items built from unstable
 sources), and just added unstable to my apt sources.list.  As
 recommended in the HOWTO, I put
 APT::Default-Release testing;
 in apt.conf.  I do not have an apt/preferences file.
 
 When I tried apt-get upgrade (or dist-upgrade) it wanted to upgrade a
 bunch of packages, all from unstable.  I tried commenting out unstable
 from my sources.list, and apt-get upgrade becomes a no-op.
 
 I expected apt would not use unstable unless I explicitly told it to.
 What am I missing?

You've probably installed one (or more) package(s) with version(s) newer
than that available in testing but older than that available in
unstable.  With a Default-Release of testing you've set the priority
for testing packages to 990, and all other releases that your system
knows about to 500.  The problem is that installed versions that only
exist in /var/lib/dpkg/status get a priority of 100.  This means that if
the installed version is newer than what is in testing and older than
what is in unstable, unstable is seen as a desirable upgrade.  Now, when
you preform and apt-get upgrade it will pull the newer version of the
package from unstable _if_ there are new packages that are needed that
wouldn't be upgraded of their own accord.

 Many of the packages to be upgraded were from mozilla, which is
 something I did build from source.  So I could sort of see this
 drawing from unstable, even if I don't understand why.  But others are
 definitely not like that, e..g, gnome-pim, install-doc, openuniverse.
 
 As a side mystery, 
 # apt-show-versions -a gnome-pin

Perhaps you mean gnome-pim?

To get a better idea of why a package is being upgraded from a specific
release take a look at the output of apt-cache policy $package.

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Re: Godel [was Re: qmail Re: freebsd - Re: recommended Virus Scanner?]

2003-11-30 Thread Tom
On Sun, Nov 30, 2003 at 09:27:37AM -0500, Carl Fink wrote:
 On Sun, Nov 30, 2003 at 12:00:05AM -0800, Tom wrote:
 
  ... that in any sufficiently complex formal system there are no guarantees
  it won't grind out falsehoods ...
 
 But Goedel's Theorem actually says that in any formal system, there will be
 true propositions that cannot be proved (without going outside the system). 
 Nothing I've seen about grinding out falsehoods.

I thought it was neither complete (the doesn't capture all truths thing) 
nor consistent (may contain both a statement and its complement)[1].
But I can look that up.

The Stanford prof told me the Lambda calculus (Lisp-ish stuff) almost 
proved one of the two.  It looks like current metamathematics can have a 
set theory for intiutionists, one for computationalists, or other richer 
things, kind of like all the Non-euclidean geometries.

I have many other things to say but this requires precision and this is 
OT.  I'd love a crisp answer of does this matter in everyday life.

[1]-This was the assertion in Illusion of Technique

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Re: please send me the software

2003-11-30 Thread John Smith
On Sun, 2003-11-30 at 15:19, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Anybody care to mailbomb this guy with a few .iso's ?

ROFL!

Jan.



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Re: Godel [was Re: qmail Re: freebsd - Re: recommended Virus Scanner?]

2003-11-30 Thread Tom
On Sun, Nov 30, 2003 at 07:01:16AM -0800, Tom wrote:
 On Sun, Nov 30, 2003 at 09:27:37AM -0500, Carl Fink wrote:
  On Sun, Nov 30, 2003 at 12:00:05AM -0800, Tom wrote:
  
   ... that in any sufficiently complex formal system there are no guarantees
   it won't grind out falsehoods ...
  
  But Goedel's Theorem actually says that in any formal system, there will be
  true propositions that cannot be proved (without going outside the system). 
  Nothing I've seen about grinding out falsehoods.
 
 I thought it was neither complete (the doesn't capture all truths thing) 
 nor consistent (may contain both a statement and its complement)[1].
 But I can look that up.

[The lack of consistency in arithmetic was shown by Skolem not Goedel]

 
 The Stanford prof told me the Lambda calculus (Lisp-ish stuff) almost 
 proved one of the two.  It looks like current metamathematics can have a 
 set theory for intiutionists, one for computationalists, or other richer 
 things, kind of like all the Non-euclidean geometries.
 
 I have many other things to say but this requires precision and this is 
 OT.  I'd love a crisp answer of does this matter in everyday life.
 
 [1]-This was the assertion in Illusion of Technique
 
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Re: questions/comments about new sarge installer LILO

2003-11-30 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
tripolar wrote:
I have used the new sarge installer alot in the last week and am pretty
impressed. Thanks to all responsible.


But where do you get the iso file from? I still cannot get to gluck on 
Debian.

Hugo.


A few things that seem different are
1) the way discs are labeled in lilo
for example:
/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/disc
I am guessing because Debian is the Universal OS and all the different
platforms it supports has warranted this change from /dev/hda1.
I need to figure out how to get lilo to pick up and boot /dev/hda2.
I ran lilo after editing lilo.conf- it didnt pick up m$ partition and
commented about name change because I used /dev/hda2 versus
.../target0/lun0/disc 
Where are docs about /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/disc naming
scheme?

2)I was surprised to see lilo start straight way without any prompt nor
any delay. maybe I did something wrong :-)






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