Re: Anyone else suddenly got debian-user-digest messages?
* Aaron Maxwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-06-21 07:10] wrote: > On Saturday 19 June 2004 09:49 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > Starting yesterday I suddenly started to receive debian-user-digest > > messages from murphy. I most surely didn't subscribe myself to the > > digests, so something else must have happened. Anyone else > > experienced the same? > > > > Grx HdV > > I haven't. Based on the lack of response, probably not many others have > either. Smile, you're special. > > -- > Best, > Aaron Maxwell - http://redsymbol.com > Internet Joint Ventures - http://amusene.com > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Hi All, Actually I have gotten a few of these as well. Not very many, but enough to make me wonder what's going on. The only reason I noticed is because they end up in my personal inbox. -- Med Vänlig Hälsning / Best Regards Nicolaus Kedegren I wish you humans would leave me alone. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: firewire, iPod and Linux
Emma Jane Hogbin wrote: On Sun, Jun 20, 2004 at 06:05:39PM -0700, Erik Steffl wrote: note that you need both HFS+ filesytem AND mac style partitions kernel support to be able to work with the iPod. I have both... From File Systems -> Miscellaneous filesystems: x x<*> Apple Macintosh file system support (EXPERIMENTAL) x x<*> Apple Extended HFS file system support that's not it, those are both file systems (in .config: # Miscellaneous filesystems), you need support for mac style partitions: # Partition Types ... CONFIG_PARTITION_ADVANCED=y # not sure what this does ... CONFIG_MAC_PARTITION=y # this is what you need ... I had the same problem... once you have the mac partition support you should be able to use iPod with e.g. gtkpod erik -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Another "testing" vs "unstable" question
Michael Satterwhite wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 20 June 2004 18:44, richard lyons wrote: On Sunday 20 June 2004 16:10, Michael Satterwhite wrote: [...] Although I've had to use Windows at some client sites, my personal machines have been essentially MS free for over a year. Some exceptions, there - I can't live without Quicken / Quickbooks [...] Look at sql-ledger. You might like it. Really effective bookkeeping which runs in a browser, so you can set up remote access should you wish to. It's the electronic banking that I use. For obvious reasons, I don't really want to play games with that. Hence cxoffice. I haven't sql-ledger and will look into it but gnucash will read Quicken files from your bank and you may like using accounts completely instead of using Quicken categories which are just weakened accounts. This reference may help with Quickbooks to GnuCash conversion: http://www.aerospacesoftware.com/GNU_Cash_for_Business_users_Howto_Guide.html Paul Scott -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: moving to the 2.6 kernel?
Jules Dubois wrote: On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 10:47:10 -0500, Kent West wrote: Just install a Debian box like you normally do, then "apt-get install kernel-image-2.6.whateverfitsyourarchitecture". Thanks for the advice, Kent. A foolish question: There's really nothing more to it than installing a kernel-image package (and, in my case, updating initrd-tools)? If you're not already running an initrd kernel, you may have to add one line to /etc/lilo.conf, but you're warned about it during the install. -- Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Gnumeric broken in sarge ?
On Mon, Jun 21, 2004 at 07:16:48 +0200, Tim Timmerman wrote: > I did my usual apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade last saturday, > and discovered that gnumeric wouldn't run anymore. The only message > printed is: > > Cannot allocate memory. Most likely the gnumeric process is being loaded against both gnutls7 and gnutls10. Sarge's base GNOME libraries are now GNOME 2.6 ones linked against gnutls10, but it still has a libgnomeprint linked against a libcupsys2 linked against gnutls7. > I've tried rebuilding the package from scratch, and reinstalling it, > but that didn't make any difference. That's because the problem isn't in gnumeric itself, but rather the result of a conflict among gnumeric's dependencies. > Anyone have any suggestions ? If you can do without printing via CUPS, "rm /usr/lib/libgnomeprint/2.4.2/modules/libgnomeprintcups.so", else - wait for the cupsys transition to happen in sarge (see http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=gnumeric) or - install libcupsys2-gnutls10 and libgnomeprint2.2-0 from sid. HTH, Ray -- "The software `wizard' is the single greatest obstacle to computer literacy since the Mac." http://www.osopinion.com/Opinions/MichaelKellen/MichaelKellen1.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How to replicate debian system on Local Network?
I have a Debian system set up on one PC and would like to replicate it onto another (to eventually replace my Redhat 9.0 system.). What would be the easist way to accomplish this? 1. use an NFS mount of /var/apt/cache/archives/ frommy first Debian system, and enter into /etc/apt/sources.list : deb file: deb-src file: 2. use my first Debian system as an ftp server and specify in /etc/apt/sources.list : deb ftp:/hostname/ deb-src ftp:/hostname/ would they work? and even if they did, is there an easier way? TIA James - James Sinnamon jps at westnet com auStralia ph +61 412 319669, +61 2 95692123, +61 2 95726357 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gnumeric broken in sarge ?
On Mon, 21 Jun 2004 07:16:48 +0200 Tim Timmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > I did my usual apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade last saturday, > and discovered that gnumeric wouldn't run anymore. The only message > printed is: > > Cannot allocate memory. > > This is mildly annoying, since I kep some essential dat ain a > gnumeric spreadsheet. ( I do keep a woody install around, so all is > not lost ;-) [ snip ] > Anyone have any suggestions ? Yes: looking in the Debian BTS to see whether such a bug has been reported for the version of gnumeric you're running, and what that bug report might say about possible resolutions. (hint hint) -c -- Chris Metzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (remove "snip-me." to email) "As a child I understood how to give; I have forgotten this grace since I have become civilized." - Chief Luther Standing Bear pgpP2uKrM9BxJ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Another "testing" vs "unstable" question
On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 12:15:59 -0500, Michael Satterwhite wrote: > On Sunday 20 June 2004 11:47, Chris Metzler wrote: >> What you're not aware of is that something similar happened last year with >> KDE in testing. More specifically, last year, KDE was uninstallable >> in testing for *several months*. > > How did you handle this? Patience, Grasshopper. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gnumeric broken in sarge ?
Hi, I did my usual apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade last saturday, and discovered that gnumeric wouldn't run anymore. The only message printed is: Cannot allocate memory. This is mildly annoying, since I kep some essential dat ain a gnumeric spreadsheet. ( I do keep a woody install around, so all is not lost ;-) (By the way: bugbuddy sees to be broken too: just hangs trying to collect data .) I've tried rebuilding the package from scratch, and reinstalling it, but that didn't make any difference. Anyone have any suggestions ? TimT. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] 040-2683613 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Voodoo Programmer/Keeper of the Rubber Chicken There's a pizza place near where I live that sells only slices. In the back you can see a guy tossing a triangle in the air. -- The information contained in this communication and any attachments is confidential and may be privileged, and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by replying to this message and destroy all copies of this message and any attachments. ASML is neither liable for the proper and complete transmission of the information contained in this communication, nor for any delay in its receipt. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Another "testing" vs "unstable" question
On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 11:13:37 -0500, Michael Satterwhite wrote: > I've been watching the various discussions on this, and note that most > experienced types think that the unstable distribution is better than > the testing distribution. This leads me to one more question / > observation It happened in Sarge/testing when KDE 3.1 was entering. I haven't had any "problems" with unstable (current) that I didn't have with testing (both Woody and Sarge)... ... with one exception: I tried installing GNOME 2.0 from Ximian onto a new Woody/testing system and I could neither get it to work nor downgrade to GNOME 1.4. > How does one recover from something like this short of doing a reload? * Buddha enlightenment * Expert assistance * Educated guesses * Trial and error > Other than this, the arguments for the unstable over testing seem valid. I'm convinced; also, my combination of "expert assistance", "educated guesses" and "trial and error" have corrected the few things that have gone wrong. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Anyone else suddenly got debian-user-digest messages?
On Saturday 19 June 2004 09:49 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi all, > > Starting yesterday I suddenly started to receive debian-user-digest > messages from murphy. I most surely didn't subscribe myself to the > digests, so something else must have happened. Anyone else > experienced the same? > > Grx HdV I haven't. Based on the lack of response, probably not many others have either. Smile, you're special. -- Best, Aaron Maxwell - http://redsymbol.com Internet Joint Ventures - http://amusene.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What am I doing wrong(Motor unresponsive)
On Sunday 20 June 2004 12:27 am, cecil wrote: > I tried to start using motor today. But I could never actually get > off that silly menu bar to code... I just kept going from 1 option to > the next, left to right, right to left. How do I get down so I can > actually do something? I tried escape, I tried rab... I even > rtfm. No dice. Try this: 1) In the Project menu, select "Files..." 2) Highlight "Source files" (using up and down arrow keys). In the lower-right hand selection, choose "Add" (using the left and right arrows) and press enter. 3) The minibuffer at the bottom of the screen says "add file:" Type in the name of the new file, e.g. foo.c 4) foo.c now shows up under "Source files". Highlight foo.c, and in the lower-right hand selection, choose "Edit". 5) You should now be editing foo.c; press F1 for online help. Aaron -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KPackage and apt-get basics
On Sun, Jun 20, 2004 at 05:05:12PM -0700, Brenden wrote: > On Sunday 20 June 2004 02:15 pm, Andreas Janssen wrote: > > Hello > > > > Brenden (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote: > > > I'm trying out KPackage and apt-get for the first time. > > > > > > One thing I'm missing is a way to get a list of installed packages. > > > Is this available someplace from either tool? > > > > dpkg --get-selections > > dpkg -L > > aptitude (if it is installed) > > > > > The second thing is how do I get dependencies to install? I tried > > > installing package apache but it told me apache-common was needed and > > > missing. > > > > If you use apt-get, it should be able to get the necessary packages > > automatically. Try > > > > apt-get install apache > > This doesn't install apache-common. It just says that apache-common is needed > but won't be installed, and quits. > > Hi B, if apt-get or aptitude says it cant do something, it means that there is some thing preventing it: 1) the 'sources.list' does not contain all the required dependencies 2) the needed packages are not in your distribution if you use apt-get, its jobs is to find the dependencies and install them. -Kev signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: apt-get update lists - Thanks
Thanks to all those helpful people who responded. I have three HDs and around 70G free, so I'll keep Knoppix as my working system and gradually "work up" a true Debian system on a separate partition. From discussions on this list it seems that "testing" (sarge) is the way to go initially. I have downloaded several docs, including Debian Reference (Osamu insisted ) and hope all goes well from here. -- Regards, Brian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: moving to the 2.6 kernel?
On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 10:47:10 -0500, Kent West wrote: > Just install a Debian box like you normally do, then "apt-get install > kernel-image-2.6.whateverfitsyourarchitecture". Thanks for the advice, Kent. A foolish question: There's really nothing more to it than installing a kernel-image package (and, in my case, updating initrd-tools)? > Then you can download the sources and roll your own if you like. (Or you > can do this first, and bypass the pre-compiled version.) I've been doing that for so long, I've forgotten how automation works. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: firewire, iPod and Linux
On Sun, Jun 20, 2004 at 06:05:39PM -0700, Erik Steffl wrote: > note that you need both HFS+ filesytem AND mac style partitions > kernel support to be able to work with the iPod. I have both... >From File Systems -> Miscellaneous filesystems: x x<*> Apple Macintosh file system support (EXPERIMENTAL) x x<*> Apple Extended HFS file system support ieee1394: Node added: ID:BUS[0-00:1023] GUID[000a27000266158c] ieee1394: Node changed: 0-00:1023 -> 0-01:1023 scsi0 : SCSI emulation for IEEE-1394 SBP-2 Devices ieee1394: sbp2: Logged into SBP-2 device ieee1394: Node 0-00:1023: Max speed [S400] - Max payload [2048] Vendor: Apple Model: iPod Rev: 1.50 Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02 sda: Spinning up diskready SCSI device sda: 39063024 512-byte hdwr sectors (2 MB) sda: test WP failed, assume Write Enabled sda: asking for cache data failed sda: assuming drive cache: write through sda: unknown partition table Attached scsi removable disk sda at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0 When I check the partitions with fdisk I can hear the iPod spin up, but it doesn't see any of the partitions... thanks emma -- Emma Jane Hogbin [[ 416 417 2868 ][ www.xtrinsic.com ]] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: bash profile not working
John Taber said: > I want to set some environmental variables - I tried putting them in > bash_profile (which works in RH) but it doesn't seem to work X under Debian does not source /etc/profile or ~/.bash_profile. I don't know why exactly but the correct fix is to change the file: /etc/X11/Xsession.d/99xfree86-common_start to read: exec -l $SHELL -c "$STARTUP" That way the initial environment is delegated to the user's default shell which in the case of bash will result in /etc/profile and ~/.bash_profile being sourced. Mike -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Linux Gcomm 2.4.18-bf2.4 #1 Son Apr 14 09:53:28 CEST 2002 i686 unknown
I have two HP computers on my Gateway 500 system: HP 697C (parallel port) and HP psc 1210 on a USB port. I found a CUPs and a Ghostscript tarball files, and printer-magicfilter.tgz.tar during my browsing since it might be better to use the Debian packaging to track this stuff. The Linux definitely assigns the HP 697C to lp0. It seems only to detect the USB printer. I also have gotten the HP-DeskJet_697C-hpijs.ppd file from the Internet where I browsed through Sourceforge and Debian.org. I need to finish setting up the printers and the scanners. Is the use of magicfilter entirely different from CUPS and Ghostscript? I also need to get my USB Zip 250 drive recognized. My floppy drive is an LS120 which is assigned to /dev/hdd so I cannot format any floppies. However, I can mount an already formatted floppy. I would also like to access Amiga DOS floppies; however, the kernel gives an error that says it doesn't recognize it. I tried to choose vfat, msdos, afs, the Mac filesystem during setup. It would be nice to be able to use superformat. Perhaps a script to use dd? Or a custom block device? I also want to set up my home Intranet on the Linux system where the addresses are as follows: 192.168.128.1 Gcomm 192.168.128.2 Windows 98SE machine 192.168.128.3 Commodore Amiga 2000HD 192.168.128.4 Windows XP The system doesn't seem to recognize my Ethernet card. 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 440BX/ZX - 82443BX/ZX Host bridge (rev 03) 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 440BX/ZX - 82443BX/ZX AGP bridge (rev 03) 00:07.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82371AB PIIX4 ISA (rev 02) 00:07.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82371AB PIIX4 IDE (rev 01) 00:07.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82371AB PIIX4 USB (rev 01) 00:07.3 Bridge: Intel Corp. 82371AB PIIX4 ACPI (rev 02) 00:0e.0 Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq ES1371 [AudioPCI-97] (rev 06) 00:0f.0 Unknown mass storage controller: Promise Technology, Inc. 20262 (rev 01) 00:10.0 Communication controller: US Robotics/3Com WinModem 00:11.0 Ethernet controller: Linksys Network Everywhere Fast Ethernet 10/100 model NC100 (rev 11) 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: 3Dfx Interactive, Inc. Voodoo 3 (rev 01) I appear to have the following modules: Module Size Used byTainted: P ppp_deflate38944 0 (autoclean) bsd_comp3936 0 (autoclean) ppp_async 6464 0 (autoclean) tdfx 35064 1 evdev 4544 0 (unused) mousedev3776 0 parport_pc 25704 1 (autoclean) lp 6912 0 ppdev 7908 0 (unused) sg 24452 0 (unused) msr 1376 0 (unused) cpuid 1184 0 (unused) apm 9148 1 dummy960 1 affs 27360 0 (unused) msdos 4668 0 (unused) scanner 8480 0 (unused) printer 5632 0 (unused) parport21728 1 [parport_pc lp ppdev] ppp_generic18728 0 [ppp_deflate bsd_comp ppp_async] slhc4432 0 [ppp_generic] soundcore 3236 0 (unused) agpgart29824 0 (unused) keybdev 1664 0 (unused) usbkbd 2848 0 (unused) input 3072 0 [evdev mousedev keybdev usbkbd] usb-uhci 20708 0 (unused) usbcore48032 0 [scanner printer usbkbd usb-uhci] I haven't tried to use the fax on the Hayes external fax modem on COM1. I installed it since Linux doesn't seem able to use the US Robotics internal Win voice modem on COM2. I can get to my ISP on the Hayes external modem. I am enjoying this new Linux system. I got tired of the inexplicable pauses on Windows. I missed Unix at work since they switched from Unix to Windows. I purchased the woody CDROMs from Abexia which is one of the vendors listed on Debian.org. Sincerely, (Mr.) Gayle Lee Fairless -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
new X update screwing up xfce4
I updated with some package the other day, and my icons on my xfce taskbar are all chopped off on the edges. sreenshot: http://www.geocities.com/emperorrob I'm not sure what package did it though. Also I noticed I have new mouse cursors so I'm thinking it's an X package. Anybody else run into this? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KPackage and apt-get basics
On Sun, Jun 20, 2004 at 02:09:23PM -0700, Brenden wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm trying out KPackage and apt-get for the first time. > > One thing I'm missing is a way to get a list of installed packages. Is this > available someplace from either tool? > aptitude ~i will do it, or run aptitude with no command line, this will bring up the ncurses interface and then scroll with arrows to the line saying installed packages and press [ > The second thing is how do I get dependencies to install? I tried installing > package apache but it told me apache-common was needed and missing. Hello! > Just install it pls! > try 'aptitude install apache'. The package is there at least in unstable, or try also selecting apache-common explicitly. > Any pointers? > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > +++ > This Mail Was Scanned By Mail-seCure System > at the Tel-Aviv University CC. > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: All mozilla-based browsers crash on some sites
On Sun, Jun 20, 2004 at 07:46:27PM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote: > * Dan Korostelev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004 Jun 20 18:19 -0500]: > > I have a problem (for two weeks) with Mozilla browsers on my unstable > > box. > > > > I have three mozilla-based browsers installed: Mozilla itself, Firefox > > and Epiphany (my main browser), and each of them crash on some sites. > > For example on http://incoming.debian.org/ or > > http://people.debian.org/~mvo and other (non-debian too) > > > > Did anyone have a problem like this??? > > No problems with the links you posted. I am running Firefox 0.9 > (official Mozilla.org build) on Testing. > Running standard firefox on unstable, no problems either. > - Nate >> > > -- > Wireless | Amateur Radio Station N0NB | Successfully Microsoft > Amateur radio exams; ham radio; Linux info @ | free since January 1998. > http://www.qsl.net/n0nb/ | "Debian, the choice of > My Kawasaki KZ-650 SR @| a GNU generation!" > http://www.networksplus.net/n0nb/ | http://www.debian.org > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > +++ > This Mail Was Scanned By Mail-seCure System > at the Tel-Aviv University CC. > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Another "testing" vs "unstable" question
On Sun, Jun 20, 2004 at 01:01:01PM -0400, Curt Howland wrote: > Michael Satterwhite <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > A few weeks ago (I don't know about now), the KDE distribution in > unstable > > simply would not run ... > > I was effected by this as well, yet not effected at all. This is where > doing things by hand comes in very handy. > > When I ran dselect, it reported a huge number of KDE packages which > were effected by broken dependency. At that point, I ctrl-C out of > dselect, which leaves my system just as it was before. I checked the > bug tracking and user mailing lists, noticed other people having the > same problem, and relaxed. It wasn't an isolated problem. > > Every couple of days I would run dselect, update the list of packages, > and if the same dependency problem happened I would simply break out > and try later. One day, someone reported that the problem had been > corrected, and sure enough dselect did not give me the list of > dependency problems. > > The only people who's systems were twisted by this error were ones who > do updates automatically. Automatic can work on Stable, where bug > fixes are the rule. I would no more run automatic updates on Unstable > or Testing than I would set the cruise control and go to sleep in my > car at 75mph on a twisty road. > > > How does one recover from something like this short of doing a > reload? > > That shouldn't be a question by someone running Unstable. Unstable is > exactly that, and should be considered to be an interactive learning > experience. > > One of the reasons that I like dselect, other than that's what I used > first, is it is a command line application. No matter how crippled > the system gets, if it will boot it will run dselect. > also apt and aptitude ;-) > Curt- > -- > September 11th, 2001 > The proudest day for gun control and central > planning advocates in American history > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > +++ > This Mail Was Scanned By Mail-seCure System > at the Tel-Aviv University CC. > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Another "testing" vs "unstable" question
On Sun, Jun 20, 2004 at 04:37:12PM -0400, Carl Fink wrote: > On Sun, Jun 20, 2004 at 02:35:32PM -0500, Kent West wrote: > > > > > Yes, unstable does indeed break sometimes, sometimes seriously so. But > > in the five or so years I've been running Debian, I've seen far less > > breakage on Debian unstable boxes than on Windows boxes (and much, much, > > much more recoverability). So if you've been able to live with Windows > > for the past few years, you can probably handle Debian unstable. > > Sure, but the apropos comparison is against SuSE or Mandrake or > something, not Windows. At least IMO. > Don't know whats their state now after they all adopted the apt methodology, but it used to be near to impossible to upgrade those systems. I used to run mandrake at work about two years ago and it took me less then a month to break it in a way that needed resinstalling. My previous computer running debian unstable ran fine for over six years with constant upgrades (until I stopped using it and it moved to my girlfriend who can't get used to linux). Actually it was an installation that migrated between two computers and three different hard-drives (went from 486 to PIII with no problem), not to mention the exotic hardware it ran along the years. > Mind you, tracking Testing for the past two years I've had one > significant problem (the KDE thing) which was only a difficulty at > all in that I couldn't use Konqueror for a few weeks. > -- > Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jabootu's Minister of Proofreading > http://www.jabootu.com > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > +++ > This Mail Was Scanned By Mail-seCure System > at the Tel-Aviv University CC. > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Another "testing" vs "unstable" question
On Sun, Jun 20, 2004 at 12:10:30PM -0500, Michael Satterwhite wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Sunday 20 June 2004 11:25, Kent West wrote: > > > > In the meantime, use something other than KDE, such as Gnome, icewm, > > wmaker, fluxbox, ion, twm, sawfish, saffire, xfce, qvwm etc etc etc. > > That works for KDE, but what about the reported problems where the machine > locks / won't boot / crashes / etc.? Fixing it without a computer is > problematic at best . Even waiting for a fix (go without a computer for a > few days?) doesn't seem feasible as loading the fix requires a running > computer. > Never had a computer that won't boot due to something that wasn't my fault (and even that was hard to achieve file system corruption), and I believe except for one time (my fault) I could still log in using single user mode or worst case scenario using init=/bin/bash (never had to use that one either). > I'm not trying to be difficult, just learn. Obviously, you more experienced > types have been through this; how do you handle it. > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFA1cUXjeziQOokQnARAlkAAJsGZTk1mWoOVTEL8ypyTU0hZ4RBxQCfet71 > qJKpvkVwEean7ViZ+H50qyE= > =lm1A > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > > +++ > This Mail Was Scanned By Mail-seCure System > at the Tel-Aviv University CC. > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
/etc/hostname
My /etc/hostname file contains only the machine name and not the FQDN of the machine. This is causing problems with procmail, squirrelmail and probably 50 other things out there. How do I set this once and for all? And should it be a FQDN or just the machine name? I'm actually thinking it needs to be the machine name only because if you are running multiple domains on a machine you need to be able to tell the difference for email and web services. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Another "testing" vs "unstable" question
On Sun, Jun 20, 2004 at 11:25:30AM -0500, Kent West wrote: > Michael Satterwhite wrote: > > >A few weeks ago (I don't know about now), the KDE distribution in unstable > >simply would not run. I've noted several of the messages recommending the > >unstable branch say that there were some updates that caused the receiving > >machines to crash / lock / not start. > > > >How does one recover from something like this short of doing a reload? > > > > Fix the problem yourself -- a lot of times an error message will point > you to the exact line in the exact file that's causing the problem, and > a quick look will reveal a missing quote mark in the preceding line or a > misspelled word in the line, etc. > And if you don't know how to fix it but know which file is the problem you can find which package it came from using dpkg -S I think that there is also apt-file which will let you search for specific files, or in the debian package search page you also have an option to search bu file. > or > > Wait for the problem to be fixed and for the fixed packages to become > available; then install the fixed packages. > > In the meantime, use something other than KDE, such as Gnome, icewm, > wmaker, fluxbox, ion, twm, sawfish, saffire, xfce, qvwm etc etc etc. > > -- > Kent > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > +++ > This Mail Was Scanned By Mail-seCure System > at the Tel-Aviv University CC. > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Recording sound from microphone
I use Audacity a lot, looking in my mixer I see that the Mic is not muted, the volume is just all the way down. I hope that helps. On Sun, 2004-06-20 at 17:36, Daniel Klein wrote: > Hey all, > > I want to record sound from microphone. I am trying to use Audacity, but > the rec program from sox would be cool as well. > > Here's what I did, back when I was running SuSE: > > I brought up KMix, selected microphone as input source, muted it (so > there'd be no echo over speakers/headphones), started record (curses > based recording proggy) and went ahead. Worked fine. > > Now, doing the same stuff and using rec/audacity, I get no signal from > the microphone. In Audacity I can even select the input device, so I > select mic there on top of having it selected as input source in either > KMix or Alsamixer (I've tried both). I know the mic is working because > if I unmute it, I can hear my voice coming out of the speakers (and I > can create wonderful feedback sounds, tried that one out a lot! :P) If I > turn the mic up, unmute it and select mix as source, everything works > just fine (cept for the fact that anything else that's playing while I'm > recording also shows up - not good). So I would like to exclude hardware > failure (besides, it's absolutely the same system that used to work > before I dumped SuSE and went for debian - a step I have surely not > regretted at all so far.. apt-get alone would make me want to stay here > even if I had to give up a kidney). > > I am using a Terratec XFire 1024 card (CS46xx chip), alsa 1.0.5, using > kernel 2.6.6 and everything else is from unstable as well. Any help > would be greatly appreciated. > > Daniel signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Another "testing" vs "unstable" question
On Sun, Jun 20, 2004 at 12:11:35PM -0500, Michael Satterwhite wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Sunday 20 June 2004 11:40, David Fokkema wrote: > > On Sun, Jun 20, 2004 at 11:22:57AM -0500, Michael Satterwhite wrote: > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > > > On Sunday 20 June 2004 11:16, Carl Fink wrote: > > > > On Sun, Jun 20, 2004 at 11:13:37AM -0500, Michael Satterwhite wrote: > > > > > A few weeks ago (I don't know about now), the KDE distribution in > > > > > unstable simply would not run ... > > > > > > > > > > How does one recover from something like this short of doing a > > > > > reload? > > > > > > > > Don't run KDE for a week or so until it's fixed? Downgrade to the > > > > version in Testing, which will still work? > > > > > > > > I mean, you DO know how to do both of those things from the command > > > > line, right? And how to get to the command line when X won't work? > > > > Otherwise, really, you shouldn't use Unstable. > > > > > > Certainly I can turn off KDE; cripples KDevelop which is needed, but can > > > be done easily. As to downgrading, I've read answers to several questions > > > saying that can't be done with apt. Unless those answers were wrong, no, > > > I don't know how to - short of a reload. > > > > You can downgrade with apt, that's no problem at all! What you _can't_ > > do, is downgrading _all_ packages to the version numbers available in > > testing. If you downgrade, you have to specify things like > > Ah ... important information here! Thanks much > BTW if all else fails and you need to go farther back then you can always load the packages with whatever version you want manually from http://snapshot.debian.net/ and install it using dpkg -i > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFA1cVHjeziQOokQnARAisgAJ4yaBHo4wDKW6WOH4iWuuLlazkF+wCeIofN > IaQb/4bhz2WCqrGCIICB8Vs= > =FaSe > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > +++ > This Mail Was Scanned By Mail-seCure System > at the Tel-Aviv University CC. > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Another "testing" vs "unstable" question
On Sun, Jun 20, 2004 at 11:22:57AM -0500, Michael Satterwhite wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Sunday 20 June 2004 11:16, Carl Fink wrote: > > On Sun, Jun 20, 2004 at 11:13:37AM -0500, Michael Satterwhite wrote: > > > A few weeks ago (I don't know about now), the KDE distribution in > > > unstable simply would not run ... > > > > > > How does one recover from something like this short of doing a reload? > > > > Don't run KDE for a week or so until it's fixed? Downgrade to the > > version in Testing, which will still work? > > > > I mean, you DO know how to do both of those things from the command > > line, right? And how to get to the command line when X won't work? > > Otherwise, really, you shouldn't use Unstable. > > Certainly I can turn off KDE; cripples KDevelop which is needed, but > can be That would depend on why kde wouldn't start. If its just kde window manager or kdm then you wouldn't have a problem running it in any other window manager. > done easily. As to downgrading, I've read answers to several questions saying > that can't be done with apt. Unless those answers were wrong, no, I don't > know how to - short of a reload. > > I'll take this for one vote that testing is actually a better choice than > unstable. > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFA1bnhjeziQOokQnARAq9UAJ9YYymDxyNU5mlTCpNy5yLtfD/92ACfd1Jw > 4RZjkGNJypftRLfhhm85b28= > =QeFr > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > > +++ > This Mail Was Scanned By Mail-seCure System > at the Tel-Aviv University CC. > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Which version?
Kent West wrote: Ethan Vos wrote: Can I run this from a Win98 C: drive and install to a Linux D: or E: drive? The instructions seem a little daunting... Ethan Robert Sheets wrote: On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 17:19:59 -0400, Ethan Vos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Good afternoon all. The mirrors that I have looked at have binary-1 through binary-7. Which is the correct one to use? The binary-1 CD has most of the commonly wanted software. The other CDs have additional software, but you can start out with the first one and get the other stuff as needed/desired (either by downloading and using the extra CDs, or better still, just directly downloading the various packages). Concerning your second question (which was top-posted, a practice frowned upon on this list; instead, post your responses so anybody can come in six months later and start reading the post at the top and understand what's going on in the conversation): Debian is a completely different animal than Windows; it requires its own partitions and/or drives. I assume by your question that you already have a D: and E: partition and/or drive. Yes, Linux can be installed on those partitions/drives, but they'll have to be repartitioned/reformatted, and they'll essentially become invisible to Windows. The names "D:" and "E:" will no longer apply; that's strictly a Microsoft invention. Rather than running from the Win98 C: drive, you'll probably want to boot off the binary-1 CD, and install it from the CD to what you currently are calling D: and/or E: (wiping out any data on those partitions/drives in the process). Normally this won't affect your current Windows setup, but if you don't understand partitioning, you can make a mistake and wipe your Windows setup completely. So either make sure you know what you're doing, or make a backup of the entire Windows drive first (which is a good idea anyway). If D: and E: are separate drives and not just separate partitions, you might feel more comfortable unplugging the data/power cable from the C: drive to make sure nothing happens to it during the install. The problem with that is that because of the way the boot-up process gets installed, your machine probably won't be able to boot into Debian after the install (I'm assuming that since you have Win98 you have an older machine that expects to boot off the first drive on IDE0), or if it does, you'll find you can't boot Windows after the install without some tweaking on the Debian side. My suggestion to you is to make sure you understand the installation instructions, which seem a little daunting, or decided to do away with Win98 completely for now until you've had some experience with Debian, or to get your feet wet with a Knoppix CD (http://www.knoppix.org) instead of installing Debian to your machine. The Knoppix CD lets you boot off the CD into a fully-functioning Linux environment, and then when you exit out of Knoppix and remove the CD and reboot you're back in Win98 like Knoppix never existed. It's considerably slower than a real Linux installation (since everything's running off the CD), but it's a good way to introduce yourself to Linux. Before I installed Debian on my Gateway 500 I had only a 12 GB hard drive. I installed more system memory and installed a second hard drive. I read the installation guide off Debian.org and made notes on all the stuff attached to the computer such as COM ports, the type of printers, graphic card, modem type, floppy drive, ZIP drive, etc. I also read a couple of books about Linux: Running Linux, 3rd Edition (BTW, the fourth edition is out), and Linux Cookbook. Both of these are listed on Debian.org. In the Linux Cookbook, be sure to read the section about the virtual consoles. Once installed, my Linux boots into the GUI. Ctrl_ALT-Fx (where x is a number from 1 to 6 inclusive) will get the user into one of the virtual consoles. On my system then Ctrl-Alt_Del will reboot the system, (but the GUI screen will capture those keys). Rebooting the system allows you to get back to the LILO menu. I used a utility from the vendor that made the second hard drive to set up the partitions and to format it. From the installation guide I know that I wanted a large partition or partitions for the root system and data areas. I also set up a small partition to use as the swap partition. On your Windows boot diskette you should have Fdisk. If you accidentally destroy your MBR, remember thatfdisk /MBR will restore the Master Boot Record. When you answer questions about the X sessions, it might be a good idea to choose medium or simple. The advanced selection is for those hardware gurus whose equipment is so specialized that only God and they know what the parameters are. This section is where you answer questions about the graphics card, type of mouse, keyboard, etc.. You may wish to know whether you want gdm, tdm, or xdm as your windows manager. You'
Re: wput? automatic ftp login/upload?
On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 16:26:04 -0400, Silvan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I need to log into the FTP server with a username and password, then upload > some files, allowing them to overwrite the existing files automagically. > Hands off is strongly preferred. You should be able to use curl. Look at the --upload-file option. -B -- Brandon High [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED] '04 ZX-10R, '98 ZX-7R "Wasabi", '02 BMW R1150RS "Troll" Adventure is what happens to the incompetent. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: update-rc.d and package upgrades
martin f krafft writes: > So what's the recommended way of disabling services? I suggest sysvconfig. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, Wisconsin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: "sarge" install: "Install base system" bombs and disk errors(?)
Allen Williams wrote: From: Kent West [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Folks, trim your posts, please. <>Sorry...:>( from now on... No problem. 'ppreciate the cooperation. -- Kent <> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: "sarge" install: "Install base system" bombs and disk errors(?)
Sorry...:>( from now on... > -Original Message- > From: Kent West [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2004 9:42 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: "sarge" install: "Install base system" bombs and disk > errors(?) > > > Gregory Pierce wrote: > > >On Sun, 2004-06-20 at 20:20, Allen Williams wrote: > > > > > >Lots and lots and lots of stuff without snippage. > > > > Folks, trim your posts, please. > > Thanks! > > -- > Kent > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: "sarge" install: "Install base system" bombs and disk errors(?)
I don't know if I got a bad CD image or what. I'm in the process of trying
jigdo (after a little internet research) like you said, but, previously, the
install hangs when it is trying to install the base system, and there are CD
errors, the:
June 20 00:58:56 (none) syslog.warn klogd: hdc: media error (bad sector):
status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
error.
I'm hoping jigdo will make me a good image. The woody image I have is OK,
but it doesn't have my network driver. Any idea how to add a new driver to
an older kernel image?
TIA,
Allen
> -Original Message-
> From: Gregory Pierce [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2004 9:21 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: "sarge" install: "Install base system" bombs and disk
> errors(?)
>
>
> On Sun, 2004-06-20 at 20:20, Allen Williams wrote:
> > Greg,
> >
> > Thanks for the help. What do you mean, you used jigdo? I just ftp'd it
> > (onto a Windows NT4.0 machine) and burned an iso image. It
> booted OK, but
> > I'm getting all kinds of CD errors.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Allen
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Gregory Pierce [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2004 4:56 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: RE: "sarge" install: "Install base system" bombs and disk
> > > errors(?)
> > >
> > >
> > > Allen,
> > >
> > > Having just installed sarge on my laptop I think I may be
> able to help.
> > > I initially attempted to install sarge from a cd I burned using jigdo.
> > > This failed repeatedly...I kept getting corrupted media messages part
> > > way through the installation, though it would boot nicely. So, I went
> > > to a net-install version of sarge
> > > (http://www.nl.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/) and downloaded the
> > > files using jigdo on WindowsXP box, burned it as a CD (.iso)
> image, and
> > > booted fron it just fine. On my laptop i typed at the boot prompt
> > > expert vga=771
> > > and everything installed fine. I chose unstable and things
> still worked
> > > fine. I would suggest having important peripherals like wireless cards
> > > attached as the installer will detect them, making less work in the
> > > future.
> > > The installer also detected my built-in ethernet cards
> > > which work fine
> > > as well. I am a relatively newcomer with Linux, and I
> couldn't begin to
> > > unravel the mysteries of why net-install worked and why the usual CD
> > > installation failed.
> > >
> > > Greg
> > >
> > > On Sun, 2004-06-20 at 16:37, Allen Williams wrote:
> > > > OK, fixed that problem, but, with "sarge", I still get the
> > > following errors
> > > > (same as original problem):
> > > >
> > > > modprobe: failed to load module floppy
> > > > eval: 3: Syntax error: newline unexpected (expected ")")
> > > >
> > > > With "woody", it can't find my network hardware (Intel 82547EI
> > > Gigabit LAN
> > > > controller).
> > > >
> > > > Any help with either of these would be greatly appreciated.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Allen
> > > >
> > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > From: Kent West [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2004 3:48 PM
> > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Subject: Re: "sarge" install: "Install base system" bombs and disk
> > > > > errors (?)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Allen Williams wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >This is a brand new system- no data to worry about, but
> > > would like to get
> > > > > >the system installed. Given a brand new system, don't think my
> > > > > hardware is
> > > > > >dying, but, of course, anything is possible.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>-Original Message-
> > > > > >>From: J.H.M. Dassen (Ray) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > >>Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2004 1:04 PM
> > > > > >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > >>Subject: Re: "sarge" install: "Install base system"
> bombs and disk
> > > > > >>errors (?)
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>On Sun, Jun 20, 2004 at 11:08:59 -0400, Allen Williams wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>>and, on console alt-F4, I am getting these error messages:
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>June 20 00:58:56 (none) syslog.warn klogd: hdc: media error
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>(bad sector):
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>>status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>Is there anyplace that tells me how to decode these
> error messages?
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>The usual decoding is "your disk is dying, hope you have a good
> > > > > backup. If
> > > > > >>not, try to backup any data you want to keep NOW."
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > /dev/hdc is usually (but not always) the CD-ROM drive. This is
> > > > > indicative of a bad/scratched/dirty CD, or a faulty
> CD-ROM drive, or a
> > > > > bad CD-ROM cable/controller. I'd start by trying a different
> > > install CD
> > > > > (or a different CD-ROM drive if you have one available).
> > >
Re: "sarge" install: "Install base system" bombs and disk errors(?)
Gregory Pierce wrote: On Sun, 2004-06-20 at 20:20, Allen Williams wrote: Lots and lots and lots of stuff without snippage. Folks, trim your posts, please. Thanks! -- Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: bash profile not working
John Taber wrote: I want to set some environmental variables - I tried putting them in bash_profile (which works in RH) but it doesn't seem to work although when I manually type in the same lines at the command prompt it works (using Knoppix on HD). Any suggestions? thks John If you're setting these in an Xterm (or equivalent), they will only affect that shell, not other shells/applications not started from that shell. Also, are you just setting them, or are you exporting them also (which is necessary)? -- Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: update-rc.d and package upgrades
On Mon, 21 Jun 2004, martin f krafft wrote: > The recommended way to disable a service, or to move its > initialisation priority is update-rc.d. However, when the package is update-rc.d is for THE PACKAGING SYSTEM. It is not meant as an admin tool. It could be made smarter, like dpkg-divert, and then it would be usable as an admin tool. But right now, it isn't. > upgraded, it is likely that the choice I made for update-rc.d will > be overwritten. Since update-rc.d does not have a similar backend Not really. In fact, not at all. As long as one link remains, update-rc.d won't change anything. Now, if you want to *disable* the service, as in *keep it stopped*, then change all links to "K" links. If you want to *leave the service alone*, policy-rc.d is the only way, otherwise package upgrades will cause the service to be restarted right now (but if you left one stop link, e.g. for runlevel 0, in place, they will not screw around with your runlevel setup). > or `exit 0` at the top of the init script? (ugh!) That one certainly works, even with buggy packages, or those which haven't switched to invoke-rc.d yet. -- "One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond where the shadows lie." -- The Silicon Valley Tarot Henrique Holschuh -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: "sarge" install: "Install base system" bombs and disk errors(?)
On Sun, 2004-06-20 at 20:20, Allen Williams wrote:
> Greg,
>
> Thanks for the help. What do you mean, you used jigdo? I just ftp'd it
> (onto a Windows NT4.0 machine) and burned an iso image. It booted OK, but
> I'm getting all kinds of CD errors.
>
> Thanks,
> Allen
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Gregory Pierce [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2004 4:56 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: "sarge" install: "Install base system" bombs and disk
> > errors(?)
> >
> >
> > Allen,
> >
> > Having just installed sarge on my laptop I think I may be able to help.
> > I initially attempted to install sarge from a cd I burned using jigdo.
> > This failed repeatedly...I kept getting corrupted media messages part
> > way through the installation, though it would boot nicely. So, I went
> > to a net-install version of sarge
> > (http://www.nl.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/) and downloaded the
> > files using jigdo on WindowsXP box, burned it as a CD (.iso) image, and
> > booted fron it just fine. On my laptop i typed at the boot prompt
> > expert vga=771
> > and everything installed fine. I chose unstable and things still worked
> > fine. I would suggest having important peripherals like wireless cards
> > attached as the installer will detect them, making less work in the
> > future.
> > The installer also detected my built-in ethernet cards
> > which work fine
> > as well. I am a relatively newcomer with Linux, and I couldn't begin to
> > unravel the mysteries of why net-install worked and why the usual CD
> > installation failed.
> >
> > Greg
> >
> > On Sun, 2004-06-20 at 16:37, Allen Williams wrote:
> > > OK, fixed that problem, but, with "sarge", I still get the
> > following errors
> > > (same as original problem):
> > >
> > > modprobe: failed to load module floppy
> > > eval: 3: Syntax error: newline unexpected (expected ")")
> > >
> > > With "woody", it can't find my network hardware (Intel 82547EI
> > Gigabit LAN
> > > controller).
> > >
> > > Any help with either of these would be greatly appreciated.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Allen
> > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Kent West [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2004 3:48 PM
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: Re: "sarge" install: "Install base system" bombs and disk
> > > > errors (?)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Allen Williams wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >This is a brand new system- no data to worry about, but
> > would like to get
> > > > >the system installed. Given a brand new system, don't think my
> > > > hardware is
> > > > >dying, but, of course, anything is possible.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >>-Original Message-
> > > > >>From: J.H.M. Dassen (Ray) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > >>Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2004 1:04 PM
> > > > >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > >>Subject: Re: "sarge" install: "Install base system" bombs and disk
> > > > >>errors (?)
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>On Sun, Jun 20, 2004 at 11:08:59 -0400, Allen Williams wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>>and, on console alt-F4, I am getting these error messages:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>June 20 00:58:56 (none) syslog.warn klogd: hdc: media error
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>(bad sector):
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>>status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>Is there anyplace that tells me how to decode these error messages?
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>The usual decoding is "your disk is dying, hope you have a good
> > > > backup. If
> > > > >>not, try to backup any data you want to keep NOW."
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > /dev/hdc is usually (but not always) the CD-ROM drive. This is
> > > > indicative of a bad/scratched/dirty CD, or a faulty CD-ROM drive, or a
> > > > bad CD-ROM cable/controller. I'd start by trying a different
> > install CD
> > > > (or a different CD-ROM drive if you have one available).
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Kent
> > > >
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My mistake...you don't need jigdo. Here's the page for the daily
releases
http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/daily/
You can use ftp as you did but make sure that you burn the CD as an iso
file. I used a windowsXP machine and roxio in which I had to
specifically tell it to copy the file as a CD image. It sounds like you
got this far. Make sure you are then connected to the internet through
your wireless card or ethernet card. It should guide you pretty much
the rest of the way. If you choose expert26 vga=771 at the boot prompt
you should be on your way. Having said that I just tried doing the same
thing on a different brand of laptop and no luck with th
Re: firewire, iPod and Linux
Emma Jane Hogbin wrote: On Sun, Jun 20, 2004 at 04:44:58PM -0500, James Abella wrote: When sbp2 can log in, use fdisk to get basic partition info of /dev/sda. If there are only sda1 and sda2, it's Win mode. If not, the easiest way to convert it to Win mode is to install iTune on one Windows box. Ok, I'm back to the laptop seeing the iPod. I upgraded udev and re-wrote the rules. Then I made a new symbolic link. I also have leftover in /etc/fstab the following (I'm not sure if it makes a difference or not): /dev/sda2 /mnt/ipod2 auto ro,user 0 0 dmesg says: ieee1394: Node added: ID:BUS[0-00:1023] GUID[000a27000266158c] ieee1394: Node changed: 0-00:1023 -> 0-01:1023 scsi0 : SCSI emulation for IEEE-1394 SBP-2 Devices ieee1394: sbp2: Logged into SBP-2 device ieee1394: Node 0-00:1023: Max speed [S400] - Max payload [2048] Vendor: Apple Model: iPod Rev: 1.50 Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02 sda: Spinning up diskready SCSI device sda: 39063024 512-byte hdwr sectors (2 MB) sda: test WP failed, assume Write Enabled sda: asking for cache data failed sda: assuming drive cache: write through sda: unknown partition table Attached scsi removable disk sda at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0 And finally fdisk smeagol:~ 19:22:11 $ sudo fdisk /dev/sda Device contains neither a valid DOS partition table, nor Sun, SGI or OSF disklabel Building a new DOS disklabel. Changes will remain in memory only, until you decide to write them. After that, of course, the previous content won't be recoverable. The number of cylinders for this disk is set to 19073. There is nothing wrong with that, but this is larger than 1024, and could in certain setups cause problems with: 1) software that runs at boot time (e.g., old versions of LILO) 2) booting and partitioning software from other OSs (e.g., DOS FDISK, OS/2 FDISK) Warning: invalid flag 0x of partition table 4 will be corrected by w(rite) Disk /dev/sda: 20.0 GB, 2268288 bytes 64 heads, 32 sectors/track, 19073 cylinders Units = cylinders of 2048 * 512 = 1048576 bytes Device BootStart EndBlocks Id System (and then nothing) My laptop appears to think it's an empty iPod. I guess that means it's HFS? Unfortunately I do not have a Windows machine with firewire that I can try it with (and I am not willing to install Windows on my laptop). I do have HFS support enabled in the kernel, I guess I'll try updating the automount scripts to try reading the device as HFS? note that you need both HFS+ filesytem AND mac style partitions kernel support to be able to work with the iPod. erik -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
bash profile not working
I want to set some environmental variables - I tried putting them in bash_profile (which works in RH) but it doesn't seem to work although when I manually type in the same lines at the command prompt it works (using Knoppix on HD). Any suggestions? thks John -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: resolv.conf gets reset
On Sun, Jun 20, 2004 at 09:11:40AM -0700, Brenden wrote: > My resolv.conf file keeps getting reset to nothing (well, just the two comment > > To set resolv.conf, I su then type "echo 'nameserver 10.0.0.1' > | /sbin/resolvconf -a eth0" which takes care of the problem for one session. i've never heard of /sbin/resolvconf. there isn't one on this machine. it's probably dhcp overwriting it. the easiest thing is probably put a script in /etc/rc.boot/ that copies the correct resolv.conf over the bad one. -- Tom Vier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> DSA Key ID 0x15741ECE -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: All mozilla-based browsers crash on some sites
* Dan Korostelev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004 Jun 20 18:19 -0500]: > I have a problem (for two weeks) with Mozilla browsers on my unstable > box. > > I have three mozilla-based browsers installed: Mozilla itself, Firefox > and Epiphany (my main browser), and each of them crash on some sites. > For example on http://incoming.debian.org/ or > http://people.debian.org/~mvo and other (non-debian too) > > Did anyone have a problem like this??? No problems with the links you posted. I am running Firefox 0.9 (official Mozilla.org build) on Testing. - Nate >> -- Wireless | Amateur Radio Station N0NB | Successfully Microsoft Amateur radio exams; ham radio; Linux info @ | free since January 1998. http://www.qsl.net/n0nb/ | "Debian, the choice of My Kawasaki KZ-650 SR @| a GNU generation!" http://www.networksplus.net/n0nb/ | http://www.debian.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: moving to the 2.6 kernel?
* Kent West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004 Jun 20 11:33 -0500]: > stan wrote: > > >If I want to build a new Debian machine to start expolring the 2.6 kernel > >what's the best way to go about this? > > > > > > > Just install a Debian box like you normally do, then "apt-get install > kernel-image-2.6.whateverfitsyourarchitecture". Be aware that some hardware is not yet supported in .deb packages for the 2.6 kernels. I have a Soyo VIA 686 mainboard that the lm-sensors modules for 2.4 includes the ddcmon module that is needed to read the CPU and system temp. The lmsensors modules in the 2.6 kernel-image package does not yet have this module. I've not yet tried a 2.6 kernel on this laptop as the Lucent modem folks have yet to release a .deb package for ltmodem on 2.6. So, I'm in wait and see mode. - Nate >> -- Wireless | Amateur Radio Station N0NB | Successfully Microsoft Amateur radio exams; ham radio; Linux info @ | free since January 1998. http://www.qsl.net/n0nb/ | "Debian, the choice of My Kawasaki KZ-650 SR @| a GNU generation!" http://www.networksplus.net/n0nb/ | http://www.debian.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: firewire, iPod and Linux
On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 19:26:13 -0400, Emma Jane Hogbin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>Device BootStart EndBlocks Id System > > (and then nothing) > My laptop appears to think it's an empty iPod. I guess that means it's > HFS? Unfortunately I do not have a Windows machine with firewire that I > can try it with (and I am not willing to install Windows on my laptop). I > do have HFS support enabled in the kernel, I guess I'll try updating the > automount scripts to try reading the device as HFS? You still can convert it into FAT32 in linux. The tricky thing is how you are going to put the firmware into sda1. I remember there's a discussion before on slashdot about how to get the firmware from the new iPod updates. Other than that, it's quite straight forward. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: "sarge" install: "Install base system" bombs and disk errors(?)
Greg,
Thanks for the help. What do you mean, you used jigdo? I just ftp'd it
(onto a Windows NT4.0 machine) and burned an iso image. It booted OK, but
I'm getting all kinds of CD errors.
Thanks,
Allen
> -Original Message-
> From: Gregory Pierce [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2004 4:56 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: "sarge" install: "Install base system" bombs and disk
> errors(?)
>
>
> Allen,
>
> Having just installed sarge on my laptop I think I may be able to help.
> I initially attempted to install sarge from a cd I burned using jigdo.
> This failed repeatedly...I kept getting corrupted media messages part
> way through the installation, though it would boot nicely. So, I went
> to a net-install version of sarge
> (http://www.nl.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/) and downloaded the
> files using jigdo on WindowsXP box, burned it as a CD (.iso) image, and
> booted fron it just fine. On my laptop i typed at the boot prompt
> expert vga=771
> and everything installed fine. I chose unstable and things still worked
> fine. I would suggest having important peripherals like wireless cards
> attached as the installer will detect them, making less work in the
> future.
> The installer also detected my built-in ethernet cards
> which work fine
> as well. I am a relatively newcomer with Linux, and I couldn't begin to
> unravel the mysteries of why net-install worked and why the usual CD
> installation failed.
>
> Greg
>
> On Sun, 2004-06-20 at 16:37, Allen Williams wrote:
> > OK, fixed that problem, but, with "sarge", I still get the
> following errors
> > (same as original problem):
> >
> > modprobe: failed to load module floppy
> > eval: 3: Syntax error: newline unexpected (expected ")")
> >
> > With "woody", it can't find my network hardware (Intel 82547EI
> Gigabit LAN
> > controller).
> >
> > Any help with either of these would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Allen
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Kent West [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2004 3:48 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: "sarge" install: "Install base system" bombs and disk
> > > errors (?)
> > >
> > >
> > > Allen Williams wrote:
> > >
> > > >This is a brand new system- no data to worry about, but
> would like to get
> > > >the system installed. Given a brand new system, don't think my
> > > hardware is
> > > >dying, but, of course, anything is possible.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>-Original Message-
> > > >>From: J.H.M. Dassen (Ray) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >>Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2004 1:04 PM
> > > >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >>Subject: Re: "sarge" install: "Install base system" bombs and disk
> > > >>errors (?)
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>On Sun, Jun 20, 2004 at 11:08:59 -0400, Allen Williams wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>and, on console alt-F4, I am getting these error messages:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>June 20 00:58:56 (none) syslog.warn klogd: hdc: media error
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>(bad sector):
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>Is there anyplace that tells me how to decode these error messages?
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>The usual decoding is "your disk is dying, hope you have a good
> > > backup. If
> > > >>not, try to backup any data you want to keep NOW."
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > /dev/hdc is usually (but not always) the CD-ROM drive. This is
> > > indicative of a bad/scratched/dirty CD, or a faulty CD-ROM drive, or a
> > > bad CD-ROM cable/controller. I'd start by trying a different
> install CD
> > > (or a different CD-ROM drive if you have one available).
> > >
> > > --
> > > Kent
> > >
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update-rc.d and package upgrades
I have not found a clean solution to this, so let me pester y'all... The recommended way to disable a service, or to move its initialisation priority is update-rc.d. However, when the package is upgraded, it is likely that the choice I made for update-rc.d will be overwritten. Since update-rc.d does not have a similar backend like the alternatives system, there is little one can do. So what's the recommended way of disabling services? a policy for invoke-rc.d? or `exit 0` at the top of the init script? (ugh!) Thanks for your comments. -- Please do not CC me when replying to lists; I read them! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer, admin, and user `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fixing a system Invalid/expired PGP subkeys? Use subkeys.pgp.net as keyserver! signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Another "testing" vs "unstable" question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 20 June 2004 18:44, richard lyons wrote: > On Sunday 20 June 2004 16:10, Michael Satterwhite wrote: > [...] > > > Although I've had to use Windows at some client sites, my personal > > machines have been essentially MS free for over a year. Some > > exceptions, there - I can't live without Quicken / Quickbooks > > [...] > > Look at sql-ledger. You might like it. Really effective bookkeeping > which runs in a browser, so you can set up remote access should you > wish to. It's the electronic banking that I use. For obvious reasons, I don't really want to play games with that. Hence cxoffice. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFA1ibMjeziQOokQnARApBaAJoDZ1LRun8HUMkbWInQCU9GLAlFkACgimkS R8dURZQ60+dyYjXrpxQ9P80= =KosS -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: USB memory stick?
On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 15:32:54 -0400, stan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I was given a USB memory stick, as a promotional giveawau by a vrndor, > Friday. > > How can I use this with my Debian laptop? You need to use something called hotplug and ensure that you have various SCSI modules built for your kernel - sd_mod.o is necessary. some very out-of-date details at http://jon.dowland.name/unix/twinmos/ -- Jon Dowland -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KPackage and apt-get basics
On Sunday 20 June 2004 02:15 pm, Andreas Janssen wrote: > Hello > > Brenden (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote: > > I'm trying out KPackage and apt-get for the first time. > > > > One thing I'm missing is a way to get a list of installed packages. > > Is this available someplace from either tool? > > dpkg --get-selections > dpkg -L > aptitude (if it is installed) > > > The second thing is how do I get dependencies to install? I tried > > installing package apache but it told me apache-common was needed and > > missing. > > If you use apt-get, it should be able to get the necessary packages > automatically. Try > > apt-get install apache This doesn't install apache-common. It just says that apache-common is needed but won't be installed, and quits. Thanks for your ideas anyway, the listings are useful. > apt-cache show apache-common -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Most Polite Apps for Window Managers?
On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 07:39:55 -0700, William Ballard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If you apt-get kcontrol and apt-get gnome-control-center, you will have > "just enough" KDE and Gnome to run apps -- just make sure aptitude > doesn't bring in the display managers, session managers, and window > managers. Then you'll need to run gnome-settings-daemon and kdeinit in > your startup so that settings are loaded. Indeed... but why do this? just apt-get the apps themselves and get the most minimum set of dependencies. -- Jon Dowland -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Pse help Debian/ uw-imapd with Win OE
Could someone engage me off-list about setting up a Win box IMAP account to interface with Debian uw-IMAP please? I think I just need to know the proper root folder path to enter in the OE IMAP account settings. I've done this successfully with a Fedora box running uw-imap, but with my Debian install it wants to download thousands of folders and I can't seem to limit it correctly. Thanks any help - John -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Another "testing" vs "unstable" question
On Sunday 20 June 2004 16:10, Michael Satterwhite wrote: [...] > > Although I've had to use Windows at some client sites, my personal > machines have been essentially MS free for over a year. Some > exceptions, there - I can't live without Quicken / Quickbooks [...] Look at sql-ledger. You might like it. Really effective bookkeeping which runs in a browser, so you can set up remote access should you wish to. -- richard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Another "testing" vs "unstable" question
On Sunday 20 June 2004 12:48, Carl Fink wrote: > On Sun, Jun 20, 2004 at 11:22:57AM -0500, Michael Satterwhite wrote: > > Certainly I can turn off KDE; cripples KDevelop which is needed, > > but can be done easily. > > Cripples how? I run Konqueror without any other KDE component. > Granted it still loads a lot of KDE and QT libraries, but it isn't > "crippled" because I hate the K environment. And I run Kmail (still, for a while...), Kile, Konqueror, and occasional other k-ish things from icewm with no problems. BTW, I have both sarge and sid running reasonable smoothly with precious little expertise here. -- richard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: firewire, iPod and Linux
On Sun, Jun 20, 2004 at 04:44:58PM -0500, James Abella wrote: > When sbp2 can log in, use fdisk to get basic partition info of > /dev/sda. If there are only > sda1 and sda2, it's Win mode. If not, the easiest way to convert it > to Win mode is to install iTune on one Windows box. Ok, I'm back to the laptop seeing the iPod. I upgraded udev and re-wrote the rules. Then I made a new symbolic link. I also have leftover in /etc/fstab the following (I'm not sure if it makes a difference or not): /dev/sda2 /mnt/ipod2 auto ro,user 0 0 dmesg says: ieee1394: Node added: ID:BUS[0-00:1023] GUID[000a27000266158c] ieee1394: Node changed: 0-00:1023 -> 0-01:1023 scsi0 : SCSI emulation for IEEE-1394 SBP-2 Devices ieee1394: sbp2: Logged into SBP-2 device ieee1394: Node 0-00:1023: Max speed [S400] - Max payload [2048] Vendor: Apple Model: iPod Rev: 1.50 Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02 sda: Spinning up diskready SCSI device sda: 39063024 512-byte hdwr sectors (2 MB) sda: test WP failed, assume Write Enabled sda: asking for cache data failed sda: assuming drive cache: write through sda: unknown partition table Attached scsi removable disk sda at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0 And finally fdisk smeagol:~ 19:22:11 $ sudo fdisk /dev/sda Device contains neither a valid DOS partition table, nor Sun, SGI or OSF disklabel Building a new DOS disklabel. Changes will remain in memory only, until you decide to write them. After that, of course, the previous content won't be recoverable. The number of cylinders for this disk is set to 19073. There is nothing wrong with that, but this is larger than 1024, and could in certain setups cause problems with: 1) software that runs at boot time (e.g., old versions of LILO) 2) booting and partitioning software from other OSs (e.g., DOS FDISK, OS/2 FDISK) Warning: invalid flag 0x of partition table 4 will be corrected by w(rite) Disk /dev/sda: 20.0 GB, 2268288 bytes 64 heads, 32 sectors/track, 19073 cylinders Units = cylinders of 2048 * 512 = 1048576 bytes Device BootStart EndBlocks Id System (and then nothing) My laptop appears to think it's an empty iPod. I guess that means it's HFS? Unfortunately I do not have a Windows machine with firewire that I can try it with (and I am not willing to install Windows on my laptop). I do have HFS support enabled in the kernel, I guess I'll try updating the automount scripts to try reading the device as HFS? emma -- Emma Jane Hogbin [[ 416 417 2868 ][ www.xtrinsic.com ]] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Which version?
Ethan Vos wrote: Can I run this from a Win98 C: drive and install to a Linux D: or E: drive? The instructions seem a little daunting... Ethan Robert Sheets wrote: On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 17:19:59 -0400, Ethan Vos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Good afternoon all. The mirrors that I have looked at have binary-1 through binary-7. Which is the correct one to use? The binary-1 CD has most of the commonly wanted software. The other CDs have additional software, but you can start out with the first one and get the other stuff as needed/desired (either by downloading and using the extra CDs, or better still, just directly downloading the various packages). Concerning your second question (which was top-posted, a practice frowned upon on this list; instead, post your responses so anybody can come in six months later and start reading the post at the top and understand what's going on in the conversation): Debian is a completely different animal than Windows; it requires its own partitions and/or drives. I assume by your question that you already have a D: and E: partition and/or drive. Yes, Linux can be installed on those partitions/drives, but they'll have to be repartitioned/reformatted, and they'll essentially become invisible to Windows. The names "D:" and "E:" will no longer apply; that's strictly a Microsoft invention. Rather than running from the Win98 C: drive, you'll probably want to boot off the binary-1 CD, and install it from the CD to what you currently are calling D: and/or E: (wiping out any data on those partitions/drives in the process). Normally this won't affect your current Windows setup, but if you don't understand partitioning, you can make a mistake and wipe your Windows setup completely. So either make sure you know what you're doing, or make a backup of the entire Windows drive first (which is a good idea anyway). If D: and E: are separate drives and not just separate partitions, you might feel more comfortable unplugging the data/power cable from the C: drive to make sure nothing happens to it during the install. The problem with that is that because of the way the boot-up process gets installed, your machine probably won't be able to boot into Debian after the install (I'm assuming that since you have Win98 you have an older machine that expects to boot off the first drive on IDE0), or if it does, you'll find you can't boot Windows after the install without some tweaking on the Debian side. My suggestion to you is to make sure you understand the installation instructions, which seem a little daunting, or decided to do away with Win98 completely for now until you've had some experience with Debian, or to get your feet wet with a Knoppix CD (http://www.knoppix.org) instead of installing Debian to your machine. The Knoppix CD lets you boot off the CD into a fully-functioning Linux environment, and then when you exit out of Knoppix and remove the CD and reboot you're back in Win98 like Knoppix never existed. It's considerably slower than a real Linux installation (since everything's running off the CD), but it's a good way to introduce yourself to Linux. -- Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Pros/Cons Kde vs Gnome?
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Re: /lib/modules//build -- why a link?
> That's right, but why do the headers not get installed 'physically' > there when the kernel-headers package is installed? It may be because many systems' root filesystem is quite small, and the kernel headers are somewhat large. That's just a guess, though. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Which version?
Can I run this from a Win98 C: drive and install to a Linux D: or E: drive? The instructions seem a little daunting... Ethan Robert Sheets wrote: On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 17:19:59 -0400, Ethan Vos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Good afternoon all. The mirrors that I have looked at have binary-1 through binary-7. Which is the correct one to use? I would not recommend using the binary-X CD images unless the machine you're installing onto doesn't have a fast internet connection. One of the various netinstall methods, or better yet the new debian-installer[1] would be much easier and involve less downloading and use fewer CDs. [1] http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: wput? automatic ftp login/upload?
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RE: "sarge" install: "Install base system" bombs and disk errors(?)
Thanks, but I'm still getting the base install error, and also the disk
errors associated with my cdrom. My cdrom is a DVD-RW, but the CD in it was
written on my Windows (old) CD burner, so should be OK. I burned it with
"Joliet" file specified, as ISO 9660 only allows 8 char file names. I have
a feeling if I get this fixed, all will be well.
Any help appreciated.
> -Original Message-
> From: Gregory Pierce [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2004 4:56 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: "sarge" install: "Install base system" bombs and disk
> errors(?)
>
>
> Allen,
>
> Having just installed sarge on my laptop I think I may be able to help.
> I initially attempted to install sarge from a cd I burned using jigdo.
> This failed repeatedly...I kept getting corrupted media messages part
> way through the installation, though it would boot nicely. So, I went
> to a net-install version of sarge
> (http://www.nl.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/) and downloaded the
> files using jigdo on WindowsXP box, burned it as a CD (.iso) image, and
> booted fron it just fine. On my laptop i typed at the boot prompt
> expert vga=771
> and everything installed fine. I chose unstable and things still worked
> fine. I would suggest having important peripherals like wireless cards
> attached as the installer will detect them, making less work in the
> future.
> The installer also detected my built-in ethernet cards
> which work fine
> as well. I am a relatively newcomer with Linux, and I couldn't begin to
> unravel the mysteries of why net-install worked and why the usual CD
> installation failed.
>
> Greg
>
> On Sun, 2004-06-20 at 16:37, Allen Williams wrote:
> > OK, fixed that problem, but, with "sarge", I still get the
> following errors
> > (same as original problem):
> >
> > modprobe: failed to load module floppy
> > eval: 3: Syntax error: newline unexpected (expected ")")
> >
> > With "woody", it can't find my network hardware (Intel 82547EI
> Gigabit LAN
> > controller).
> >
> > Any help with either of these would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Allen
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Kent West [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2004 3:48 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: "sarge" install: "Install base system" bombs and disk
> > > errors (?)
> > >
> > >
> > > Allen Williams wrote:
> > >
> > > >This is a brand new system- no data to worry about, but
> would like to get
> > > >the system installed. Given a brand new system, don't think my
> > > hardware is
> > > >dying, but, of course, anything is possible.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>-Original Message-
> > > >>From: J.H.M. Dassen (Ray) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >>Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2004 1:04 PM
> > > >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >>Subject: Re: "sarge" install: "Install base system" bombs and disk
> > > >>errors (?)
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>On Sun, Jun 20, 2004 at 11:08:59 -0400, Allen Williams wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>and, on console alt-F4, I am getting these error messages:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>June 20 00:58:56 (none) syslog.warn klogd: hdc: media error
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>(bad sector):
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>Is there anyplace that tells me how to decode these error messages?
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>The usual decoding is "your disk is dying, hope you have a good
> > > backup. If
> > > >>not, try to backup any data you want to keep NOW."
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > /dev/hdc is usually (but not always) the CD-ROM drive. This is
> > > indicative of a bad/scratched/dirty CD, or a faulty CD-ROM drive, or a
> > > bad CD-ROM cable/controller. I'd start by trying a different
> install CD
> > > (or a different CD-ROM drive if you have one available).
> > >
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Re: Which version?
When I ordered Debian woody i686 CDROM's from a vendor listed on Debian.org, I got a set of seven. The first one gave me a list of kernels to try. I wound up using the 2.4 kernel. I am now running Windows 98SE and Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 woody 2.4.18 on this Gateway 500. Ethan Vos wrote: Good afternoon all. The mirrors that I have looked at have binary-1 through binary-7. Which is the correct one to use? Also, I am using a second HDD for the install. Will the CD ask which HDD to use? Will the install give me way to chose which OS to boot? Thanks in advance for the help. Dropout -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Pros/Cons Kde vs Gnome?
Steve Lamb wrote: Daniel Barclay wrote: Actually the shell is, for cases like "rm *.o". (That's why I wish graphical shells retained the advantages of command lines when they added the graphical advantages. I should have said "partial, non-continuious selections across a large list." Simple cases like *.o, yeah, shell does fine. I mean like a list of, 2-300 files which have no common denominator. Suddenly the globbing gets rather convoluted or you need to go through several passes whereas in a GUI selection you can just go down the list holding CNTL and SHIFT-select ranges and then execute one operation at the end. Right. That's when you bring up a dired buffer in emacs. dircha -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: firewire, iPod and Linux
On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 17:24:03 -0400, Emma Jane Hogbin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And if I try creating a fresh directory I get: > smeagol:/mnt 17:19:49 $ sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda2 /mnt/ipod2 > mount: special device /dev/sda2 does not exist When sbp2 can log in, use fdisk to get basic partition info of /dev/sda. If there are only sda1 and sda2, it's Win mode. If not, the easiest way to convert it to Win mode is to install iTune on one Windows box. > > ieee1394: sbp2: Error logging into SBP-2 device - login timed-out > sbp2: probe of 000a27000266158c-0 failed with error -16 It's bad. You need to be able to "login" first, like you did in your previous try. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KPackage and apt-get basics
Hello Brenden (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote: > I'm trying out KPackage and apt-get for the first time. > > One thing I'm missing is a way to get a list of installed packages. > Is this available someplace from either tool? dpkg --get-selections dpkg -L aptitude (if it is installed) > The second thing is how do I get dependencies to install? I tried > installing package apache but it told me apache-common was needed and > missing. If you use apt-get, it should be able to get the necessary packages automatically. Try apt-get install apache apt-cache show apache-common apt-cache policy apache-common best regards Andreas Janssen -- Andreas Janssen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> PGP-Key-ID: 0xDC801674 ICQ #17079270 Registered Linux User #267976 http://www.andreas-janssen.de/debian-tipps.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Most Polite Apps for Window Managers?
Esteban Martinez wrote: Ed Sutherland wrote: I'm considering moving from one of the giant desktop environments (Gnome) to a svelter window manager (blackbox or windowmaker.) I no need to consider:-) you can just try different WMs, most of them even without restarting X (last time I tried it KDE didn't alow this), just go to the main (debian) menu and pick a WM from Window Manager menu. understand some apps require only the gnome or kde toolkits, while others require the whole kit-and-kaboodle to operate. I'm wondering if these app categories can politely run in a window manager (that is, using just the gnome toolkit.) E-mail (Thunderbird) Web (Firefox) Office (OpenOffice) these run ok with different WMs in general there are (almost) no problems related to running apps in different WMs Contacts (Rubrica) never tried this one, erik -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Recording sound from microphone
Hey all, I want to record sound from microphone. I am trying to use Audacity, but the rec program from sox would be cool as well. Here's what I did, back when I was running SuSE: I brought up KMix, selected microphone as input source, muted it (so there'd be no echo over speakers/headphones), started record (curses based recording proggy) and went ahead. Worked fine. Now, doing the same stuff and using rec/audacity, I get no signal from the microphone. In Audacity I can even select the input device, so I select mic there on top of having it selected as input source in either KMix or Alsamixer (I've tried both). I know the mic is working because if I unmute it, I can hear my voice coming out of the speakers (and I can create wonderful feedback sounds, tried that one out a lot! :P) If I turn the mic up, unmute it and select mix as source, everything works just fine (cept for the fact that anything else that's playing while I'm recording also shows up - not good). So I would like to exclude hardware failure (besides, it's absolutely the same system that used to work before I dumped SuSE and went for debian - a step I have surely not regretted at all so far.. apt-get alone would make me want to stay here even if I had to give up a kidney). I am using a Terratec XFire 1024 card (CS46xx chip), alsa 1.0.5, using kernel 2.6.6 and everything else is from unstable as well. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Daniel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Which version?
On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 17:19:59 -0400, Ethan Vos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Good afternoon all. > > The mirrors that I have looked at have binary-1 through binary-7. Which > is the correct one to use? I would not recommend using the binary-X CD images unless the machine you're installing onto doesn't have a fast internet connection. One of the various netinstall methods, or better yet the new debian-installer[1] would be much easier and involve less downloading and use fewer CDs. [1] http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: firewire, iPod and Linux
On Sun, Jun 20, 2004 at 03:10:42PM -0500, James Abella wrote: > log looks good. Did you try this as root: > mount -t vfat /dev/sda2 /mnt/ipod lrwxr-xr-x1 emmajane root 26 Jun 20 00:27 ipod -> /var/autofs/removable/ipod smeagol:/home/emmajane# mount -t vfat /dev/sda2 /mnt/ipod mount: mount point /mnt/ipod is a symbolic link to nowhere And if I try creating a fresh directory I get: smeagol:/mnt 17:19:49 $ sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda2 /mnt/ipod2 mount: special device /dev/sda2 does not exist The last time I booted the iPod was actually spinning up and spinning down when I popped it into the cradle. This time it isn't -- although I'm pretty sure I didn't change anything. When I unplug the iPod my computer knows that it's been unplugged. >From dmesg: ieee1394: Node changed: 0-01:1023 -> 0-00:1023 ieee1394: Node suspended: ID:BUS[0-00:1023] GUID[000a27000266158c] ieee1394: Node changed: 0-00:1023 -> 0-01:1023 ieee1394: Node resumed: ID:BUS[0-01:1023] GUID[000a27000266158c] ieee1394: The root node is not cycle master capable; selecting a new root node and resetting... ieee1394: Node changed: 0-01:1023 -> 0-00:1023 ieee1394: Node changed: 0-00:1023 -> 0-01:1023 scsi7 : SCSI emulation for IEEE-1394 SBP-2 Devices ieee1394: sbp2: Error logging into SBP-2 device - login timed-out sbp2: probe of 000a27000266158c-0 failed with error -16 After unplugging: ieee1394: Node changed: 0-01:1023 -> 0-00:1023 ieee1394: Node suspended: ID:BUS[0-00:1023] GUID[000a27000266158c] I'll try rebooting again to see if it makes a difference. thanks again, emma -- Emma Jane Hogbin [[ 416 417 2868 ][ www.xtrinsic.com ]] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Which version?
Good afternoon all. The mirrors that I have looked at have binary-1 through binary-7. Which is the correct one to use? Also, I am using a second HDD for the install. Will the CD ask which HDD to use? Will the install give me way to chose which OS to boot? Thanks in advance for the help. Dropout -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: "sarge" install: "Install base system" bombs and disk errors (?)
Allen,
Having just installed sarge on my laptop I think I may be able to help.
I initially attempted to install sarge from a cd I burned using jigdo.
This failed repeatedly...I kept getting corrupted media messages part
way through the installation, though it would boot nicely. So, I went
to a net-install version of sarge
(http://www.nl.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/) and downloaded the
files using jigdo on WindowsXP box, burned it as a CD (.iso) image, and
booted fron it just fine. On my laptop i typed at the boot prompt
expert vga=771
and everything installed fine. I chose unstable and things still worked
fine. I would suggest having important peripherals like wireless cards
attached as the installer will detect them, making less work in the
future.
The installer also detected my built-in ethernet cards which work fine
as well. I am a relatively newcomer with Linux, and I couldn't begin to
unravel the mysteries of why net-install worked and why the usual CD
installation failed.
Greg
On Sun, 2004-06-20 at 16:37, Allen Williams wrote:
> OK, fixed that problem, but, with "sarge", I still get the following errors
> (same as original problem):
>
> modprobe: failed to load module floppy
> eval: 3: Syntax error: newline unexpected (expected ")")
>
> With "woody", it can't find my network hardware (Intel 82547EI Gigabit LAN
> controller).
>
> Any help with either of these would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Regards,
> Allen
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Kent West [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2004 3:48 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: "sarge" install: "Install base system" bombs and disk
> > errors (?)
> >
> >
> > Allen Williams wrote:
> >
> > >This is a brand new system- no data to worry about, but would like to get
> > >the system installed. Given a brand new system, don't think my
> > hardware is
> > >dying, but, of course, anything is possible.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >>-Original Message-
> > >>From: J.H.M. Dassen (Ray) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2004 1:04 PM
> > >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>Subject: Re: "sarge" install: "Install base system" bombs and disk
> > >>errors (?)
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>On Sun, Jun 20, 2004 at 11:08:59 -0400, Allen Williams wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>and, on console alt-F4, I am getting these error messages:
> > >>>
> > >>>June 20 00:58:56 (none) syslog.warn klogd: hdc: media error
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>(bad sector):
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>Is there anyplace that tells me how to decode these error messages?
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>The usual decoding is "your disk is dying, hope you have a good
> > backup. If
> > >>not, try to backup any data you want to keep NOW."
> > >>
> > >>
> > /dev/hdc is usually (but not always) the CD-ROM drive. This is
> > indicative of a bad/scratched/dirty CD, or a faulty CD-ROM drive, or a
> > bad CD-ROM cable/controller. I'd start by trying a different install CD
> > (or a different CD-ROM drive if you have one available).
> >
> > --
> > Kent
> >
> >
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All mozilla-based browsers crash on some sites
I have a problem (for two weeks) with Mozilla browsers on my unstable box. I have three mozilla-based browsers installed: Mozilla itself, Firefox and Epiphany (my main browser), and each of them crash on some sites. For example on http://incoming.debian.org/ or http://people.debian.org/~mvo and other (non-debian too) Did anyone have a problem like this??? Sorry for lack of info, I dunno what to write about. I have latest unstable version of all stuff installed and use 2.6-k7 linux kernel. Just ask me what you want if you need more info. Thanks. -- Dan Korostelev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
KPackage and apt-get basics
Hi all, I'm trying out KPackage and apt-get for the first time. One thing I'm missing is a way to get a list of installed packages. Is this available someplace from either tool? The second thing is how do I get dependencies to install? I tried installing package apache but it told me apache-common was needed and missing. Hello! Just install it pls! Any pointers? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gDesklets -- Which Work?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I'm running mixed unstable/experimental here and frankly there are lots of funny stuff here: 1. when I start gdesklets I find this error message: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ gdesklets gDesklets 0.26.2 Copyright (C) 2003, 2004 The gDesklets Team This software is licensed under the terms of the GNU GPL. /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init__.py:83: GtkDeprecationWarning: gtk.mainloop is deprecated, use gtk.main instead ~ self.warn(message, DeprecationWarning) /usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init__.py:83: GtkDeprecationWarning: gtk.mainquit is deprecated, use gtk.main_quit instead ~ self.warn(message, DeprecationWarning) Can someone tell me what is wrong? 2. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dpkg -l gdesklets-data Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold | Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed |/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad) ||/ Name VersionDescription +++-==-==- ii gdesklets-data 0.30.0.14 displays and sensors for gdesklets [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dpkg -l gdesklets Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold | Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed |/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad) ||/ Name VersionDescription +++-==-==- ii gdesklets 0.26.2-5 an advanced architecture for desktop applets [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ apt-cache policy gdesklets gdesklets: ~ Installed: 0.26.2-5 ~ Candidate: 0.26.2-5 ~ Version Table: ~ *** 0.26.2-5 0 ~500 ftp://ftp.cz.debian.org unstable/main Packages ~100 /var/lib/dpkg/status ~ 0.26.2-1 0 ~500 ftp://ftp.cz.debian.org testing/main Packages ~ Is it normal the package and package-data are different? Thanks for all help Vlada Ed Sutherland wrote: | I'm using Gnome 2.6 and trying to get gDesklets to work. The several | desklets I've tried have all complained about 'possible broken sensors.' | Does anyone know for certain which desklets actually work with debian | and Gnome 2.6? Thanks. | | Ed | | - -- Ing. Vladimir M. Kerka Klukovicka 1530 155 00 Praha 5 - Stodulky Czech Republic e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~[EMAIL PROTECTED] web:www.dinmont.cz NOTE: rm -rf /bin/ladin Nedostavam a nerozesilam viry, protoze nepouzivam M$ Windows -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFA1frqizaXOOTBYxcRAlhVAJ0ZpFDDZWC1hZrsiyX6VeqwApnxYgCfVDBZ v2mLpQXPOrpxESiIVAO3ruw= =hzSl -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: USB memory stick?
stan wrote: I was given a USB memory stick, as a promotional giveawau by a vrndor, Friday. How can I use this with my Debian laptop? If I understand correctly you're talking about an USB drive. If this is the case, Linux will see it as an SCSI disk and probably assign it to /dev/sda1 if you otherwise use IDE drives. Adding a line such as: /dev/sda1 /mnt/usbvfatnoauto,user 0 0 and creating a directory: /mnt/usb should allow you to mount it with a command: mount /mnt/usb Have a nice time with it. Jaka -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: USB memory stick?
On Sun, Jun 20, 2004 at 03:32:54PM -0400, stan wrote: > I was given a USB memory stick, as a promotional giveawau by a vrndor, > Friday. > > How can I use this with my Debian laptop? Plug it into the USB port. For more information, post your Debian version, what kind of memory stick, etc. -- Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabootu's Minister of Proofreading http://www.jabootu.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Another "testing" vs "unstable" question
On Sun, Jun 20, 2004 at 02:35:32PM -0500, Kent West wrote: > > Yes, unstable does indeed break sometimes, sometimes seriously so. But > in the five or so years I've been running Debian, I've seen far less > breakage on Debian unstable boxes than on Windows boxes (and much, much, > much more recoverability). So if you've been able to live with Windows > for the past few years, you can probably handle Debian unstable. Sure, but the apropos comparison is against SuSE or Mandrake or something, not Windows. At least IMO. Mind you, tracking Testing for the past two years I've had one significant problem (the KDE thing) which was only a difficulty at all in that I couldn't use Konqueror for a few weeks. -- Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabootu's Minister of Proofreading http://www.jabootu.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: "sarge" install: "Install base system" bombs and disk errors (?)
OK, fixed that problem, but, with "sarge", I still get the following errors
(same as original problem):
modprobe: failed to load module floppy
eval: 3: Syntax error: newline unexpected (expected ")")
With "woody", it can't find my network hardware (Intel 82547EI Gigabit LAN
controller).
Any help with either of these would be greatly appreciated.
Regards,
Allen
> -Original Message-
> From: Kent West [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2004 3:48 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: "sarge" install: "Install base system" bombs and disk
> errors (?)
>
>
> Allen Williams wrote:
>
> >This is a brand new system- no data to worry about, but would like to get
> >the system installed. Given a brand new system, don't think my
> hardware is
> >dying, but, of course, anything is possible.
> >
> >
> >
> >>-Original Message-
> >>From: J.H.M. Dassen (Ray) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2004 1:04 PM
> >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>Subject: Re: "sarge" install: "Install base system" bombs and disk
> >>errors (?)
> >>
> >>
> >>On Sun, Jun 20, 2004 at 11:08:59 -0400, Allen Williams wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>and, on console alt-F4, I am getting these error messages:
> >>>
> >>>June 20 00:58:56 (none) syslog.warn klogd: hdc: media error
> >>>
> >>>
> >>(bad sector):
> >>
> >>
> >>>status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Is there anyplace that tells me how to decode these error messages?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>The usual decoding is "your disk is dying, hope you have a good
> backup. If
> >>not, try to backup any data you want to keep NOW."
> >>
> >>
> /dev/hdc is usually (but not always) the CD-ROM drive. This is
> indicative of a bad/scratched/dirty CD, or a faulty CD-ROM drive, or a
> bad CD-ROM cable/controller. I'd start by trying a different install CD
> (or a different CD-ROM drive if you have one available).
>
> --
> Kent
>
>
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wput? automatic ftp login/upload?
I don't have time to go research this at the moment, so I'm going to be lazy and ask here. I'm writing some documentation, some of which is in CVS, but I have a printable PDF version that I want to host myself, so as not to waste SourceForge resources needlessly. I'd like to build an upload of the latest version into my document build/index/publish script, but I have no idea what the command line equivalent of a "wput" would be. I need to log into the FTP server with a username and password, then upload some files, allowing them to overwrite the existing files automagically. Hands off is strongly preferred. Any ideas? Thanks. -- Michael McIntyre Silvan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621 http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Another "testing" vs "unstable" question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 20 June 2004 14:35, Kent West wrote: > I run stable on my important boxes, like servers, that need to be up > 24x7, and I run unstable on my workstations. I have less pain on > unstable workstations with their occasional breakages than I do on > stable workstations with their ancient package versions. That's an interesting observation. Thanks >And I have > _far_ less pain on unstable workstations than on any version of > Windows-based workstation, even those with 1 GB of RAM on a 2.0 GHz P4 > running Windows XP Professional and very little application software. I consider Windows XP an abomination by any standard. No question there. > Yes, unstable does indeed break sometimes, sometimes seriously so. But > in the five or so years I've been running Debian, I've seen far less > breakage on Debian unstable boxes than on Windows boxes (and much, much, > much more recoverability). So if you've been able to live with Windows > for the past few years, you can probably handle Debian unstable. Although I've had to use Windows at some client sites, my personal machines have been essentially MS free for over a year. Some exceptions, there - I can't live without Quicken / Quickbooks / Final Draft. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFA1e9RjeziQOokQnARAvp9AKCmYieQN0eilOUnN+mWGNXShOI8kwCeMSmX DgfcjwHWqgw77cNaiwH/abs= =IqN0 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: firewire, iPod and Linux
log looks good. Did you try this as root: mount -t vfat /dev/sda2 /mnt/ipod On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 15:36:28 -0400, Emma Jane Hogbin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Sun, Jun 20, 2004 at 12:06:39PM -0500, James Abella wrote: > > On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 12:54:25 -0400, Emma Jane Hogbin > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > I just won an iPod (yay!) and I'm trying to get it to mount with the > > > 2.6.6 kernel. I've recompiled to get firewire working and the device is > > > recognized when it's plugged in; however, I can't get the device to mount. > > > > show us dmsg. Is it a new one? Win/Mac mode? > > It's one of the new 20Gig ones (version 2.1 according to the device itself). It > should be Win mode (all of the stuff in the prize pack was > Windows-related), but I'm not entirely sure how to tell from the device > itself. The outside of the box says both Mac and Windows... > > and dmesg: > agpgart: Found an AGP 2.0 compliant device at :00:00.0. > agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at :00:00.0 into 4x mode > agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at :01:00.0 into 4x mode > atkbd.c: Unknown key released (translated set 2, code 0x7a on isa0060/serio0). > atkbd.c: This is an XFree86 bug. It shouldn't access hardware directly. > atkbd.c: Unknown key released (translated set 2, code 0x7a on isa0060/serio0). > atkbd.c: This is an XFree86 bug. It shouldn't access hardware directly. > ieee1394: Node changed: 0-00:1023 -> 0-01:1023 > ieee1394: Node resumed: ID:BUS[0-01:1023] GUID[000a27000266158c] > ieee1394: The root node is not cycle master capable; selecting a new root node and > resetting... > ieee1394: Node changed: 0-01:1023 -> 0-00:1023 > ieee1394: Node changed: 0-00:1023 -> 0-01:1023 > scsi1 : SCSI emulation for IEEE-1394 SBP-2 Devices > ieee1394: sbp2: Logged into SBP-2 device > ieee1394: Node 0-00:1023: Max speed [S400] - Max payload [2048] > Vendor: Apple Model: iPod Rev: 1.50 > Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02 > sda: Spinning up diskready > SCSI device sda: 39063024 512-byte hdwr sectors (2 MB) > sda: test WP failed, assume Write Enabled > sda: asking for cache data failed > sda: assuming drive cache: write through > sda: unknown partition table > Attached scsi removable disk sda at scsi1, channel 0, id 0, lun 0 > > > > > -- > Emma Jane Hogbin > [[ 416 417 2868 ][ www.xtrinsic.com ]] > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: firewire, iPod and Linux
On Sun, Jun 20, 2004 at 12:06:39PM -0500, James Abella wrote: > On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 12:54:25 -0400, Emma Jane Hogbin > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I just won an iPod (yay!) and I'm trying to get it to mount with the > > 2.6.6 kernel. I've recompiled to get firewire working and the device is > > recognized when it's plugged in; however, I can't get the device to mount. > > show us dmsg. Is it a new one? Win/Mac mode? It's one of the new 20Gig ones (version 2.1 according to the device itself). It should be Win mode (all of the stuff in the prize pack was Windows-related), but I'm not entirely sure how to tell from the device itself. The outside of the box says both Mac and Windows... and dmesg: agpgart: Found an AGP 2.0 compliant device at :00:00.0. agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at :00:00.0 into 4x mode agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at :01:00.0 into 4x mode atkbd.c: Unknown key released (translated set 2, code 0x7a on isa0060/serio0). atkbd.c: This is an XFree86 bug. It shouldn't access hardware directly. atkbd.c: Unknown key released (translated set 2, code 0x7a on isa0060/serio0). atkbd.c: This is an XFree86 bug. It shouldn't access hardware directly. ieee1394: Node changed: 0-00:1023 -> 0-01:1023 ieee1394: Node resumed: ID:BUS[0-01:1023] GUID[000a27000266158c] ieee1394: The root node is not cycle master capable; selecting a new root node and resetting... ieee1394: Node changed: 0-01:1023 -> 0-00:1023 ieee1394: Node changed: 0-00:1023 -> 0-01:1023 scsi1 : SCSI emulation for IEEE-1394 SBP-2 Devices ieee1394: sbp2: Logged into SBP-2 device ieee1394: Node 0-00:1023: Max speed [S400] - Max payload [2048] Vendor: Apple Model: iPod Rev: 1.50 Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02 sda: Spinning up diskready SCSI device sda: 39063024 512-byte hdwr sectors (2 MB) sda: test WP failed, assume Write Enabled sda: asking for cache data failed sda: assuming drive cache: write through sda: unknown partition table Attached scsi removable disk sda at scsi1, channel 0, id 0, lun 0 -- Emma Jane Hogbin [[ 416 417 2868 ][ www.xtrinsic.com ]] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to install
Shane C wrote: I have a Toshiba A30 Satellite laptop currently running XP Home. I want, at minimum, to have a dual boot situation with Debian/GNU Linux. Would I be better advised to install what I have and upgrade or install a later version? The best connection I can get up here - Georgian Bay area of Ontario, Canada - is 56k. I assume a net install would be unrealistic. You don't specify what you currently have, so it's hard to offer any suggestions. However, I've done a netinstall over a 2400 modem a few years back. It takes forever, but it works (for Testing; Unstable changes too often and by the time you've downloaded a package, a new version is already in the repository). I've done several netinstalls over a 56K modem; as long as you're not paying by the minute, and are willing to tie up your phone line all night while you sleep for two or three nights, that's a perfectly suitable way to go. Again, you may run into issues with new packages becoming available in Unstable before you can finish the upgrade process, but generally that's only a mild irritant, requiring another few hours of downloading. -- Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: user x login fails
Tadek wrote: Louiso, It worked!!! Oh well. Almost. In the midst of trying to fix the problem, on advised of other gurus, I first created new user xxx. Initially it had the same behaviour, but after your sticky bit change I login OK and KDE wizard ask me few configuration questions and it runs beatifully. But when I tried with original user (tad), the login disapears, debian splash screen stays on, but KDE initialization screen is not apearing at all and I have to ALT-CTL-F1 to restart. Remove any KDE-related directorie's in that user's home folder. -- Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: user x login fails
Luiso, Yes it works. In addition I had to delete /home/tad/.kderc to make kde work again (kde wizard for new user created previously deleted .kde and recreated .kderc). My second problem (in original posting) of not being able to close kde shell Konsole remains. Thank you again for your help, Tad Luiso Pérez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... > chmod 1777 /tmp > will fixed it. > > On 20 Jun 2004 06:53:42 -0700, Tadek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Hi Kent, > > Thank you for quick reply. My answers are embedded. > > Kent West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED] > .it>... > > > Tadek wrote: > > > > > > >(sorry for double posting but my initial post in lists.debian.org was > > > >rejected since I had to > > > >subscribe first and after I did 2nd email address was given to me for > > > >posting) > > > > > > > >Dear friends, > > > > > > > >I encountered following problem (using debian sarge): > > > >- after installing k3b (apt-get), opera (dpkg from opera for sarge) > > > >and adobe reader in this order, I can not x login as ordinary user; I > > > >can still X login as a root; kde and gnome behave the same. When I > > > >enter user name and password in x client login dialog, screen blanks > > > >for second or two, X grey screen appears with X cursor and login > > > >dialog appears again. > > > > > > > >- in addition if I after successful login as root and starting kde ses > sion, > > > >I cannot close kde shell konsole; windows stays on but shell console i > s > > > >dead; > > > > > > > > > > > >I tried: > > > >- removed file /home/xxx/.kde > > > >- removed k3b and opera > > > >- upgraded installed packages > > > >- reinstalled k3b and opera > > > > > > > >I am relatively new to linux and very new to debian distribution. Any > help > > > >and/or pointers will be > > > >appreciated. > > > > > > > >Regards, > > > >Tad > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shell out of the graphical login manager (Ctrl-Alt-F2 should do it) and > > > log in as a normal user there. Then shut down your login manager (with > > > something like "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop", replacing "sudo" with > > > whatever method you use to perform this function as root, and replacing > > > "kdm" with the name of whatever login manager you're using, almost > > > certainly kdm, wdm, gdm or xdm). Then try starting X with "startx" (as > > > the normal user). > > Error output: > > > > /usr/bin/X11/startx: line 132: cannot create temp file for here > > document: Permission denied > > /usr/bin/X11/startx: line 132: cannot create temp file for here > > document: Permission denied > > > > X: unable to open wrapper config file /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config > > X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting. > > giving up. > > xinit: No such file or directory (errno 2): unable to connect to X > > server > > xinit: No such process (errno 3): unexpected signal 2. > > > > > > > > Does it work? > > > Yes - then something's wrong with the login manager's setup. > > > No - then try creating a "~/.xinitrc" file and putting the single line > > > of "icewm" in it, and make sure icewm is installed (sudo apt-get instal > l > > > icewm). Now try "startx". > > > > Doesn't work. Same error output as above. BTW what does icewm do? > > > > > > Does it work? > > > Yes - then something is wrong with your normal window manager / desktop > > > environment (KDE)? > > > No - then something's wrong with X itself. > > > > > I noticed earlier that Xwrapper.config was missing (I found posted > > message with reference to this file). > > > > > > > > > Let us know the results, and we'll go from there. > > > > > > -- > > > Kent > > > > -- > > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > .org > > > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: "sarge" install: "Install base system" bombs and disk errors (?)
Allen Williams wrote:
This is a brand new system- no data to worry about, but would like to get
the system installed. Given a brand new system, don't think my hardware is
dying, but, of course, anything is possible.
-Original Message-
From: J.H.M. Dassen (Ray) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, June 20, 2004 1:04 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: "sarge" install: "Install base system" bombs and disk
errors (?)
On Sun, Jun 20, 2004 at 11:08:59 -0400, Allen Williams wrote:
and, on console alt-F4, I am getting these error messages:
June 20 00:58:56 (none) syslog.warn klogd: hdc: media error
(bad sector):
status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
Is there anyplace that tells me how to decode these error messages?
The usual decoding is "your disk is dying, hope you have a good backup. If
not, try to backup any data you want to keep NOW."
/dev/hdc is usually (but not always) the CD-ROM drive. This is
indicative of a bad/scratched/dirty CD, or a faulty CD-ROM drive, or a
bad CD-ROM cable/controller. I'd start by trying a different install CD
(or a different CD-ROM drive if you have one available).
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Re: Another "testing" vs "unstable" question
Michael Satterwhite wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 20 June 2004 11:25, Kent West wrote: In the meantime, use something other than KDE, such as Gnome, icewm, wmaker, fluxbox, ion, twm, sawfish, saffire, xfce, qvwm etc etc etc. That works for KDE, but what about the reported problems where the machine locks / won't boot / crashes / etc.? Fixing it without a computer is problematic at best . Even waiting for a fix (go without a computer for a few days?) doesn't seem feasible as loading the fix requires a running computer. In that case, you boot off some other bootable medium (boot floppies, Knoppix CD, etc), fix the problem, and then go on with life. Unless you have some really esoteric combination of hardware/software so that no one else is seeing the problem, by the time your problem hits you, somebody else has already hit the problem, figured it out, and posted a work-around on the net, most times. In the worst case scenario, run off a Knoppix CD for a couple of days until the problem gets fixed (although if the problem is that severe, other people are probably aware of it and a fix will be forthcoming in hours instead of days). -- Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Another "testing" vs "unstable" question
Michael Satterwhite wrote: On Sunday 20 June 2004 11:47, Chris Metzler wrote: You're right that this happened recently with KDE in unstable. What you're not aware of is that something similar happened last year with KDE in testing. More specifically, last year, KDE was uninstallable in testing for *several months*. Whoa!! You're right, I *DIDN'T* know that. I may need to rethink things. Debian Stable isn't a good choice for me; packages running nearly 2 years old aren't a good thing. Now I'm hearing that the current testing branch may not work either - and it's a given that the unstable won't from time to time. How did you handle this? I run stable on my important boxes, like servers, that need to be up 24x7, and I run unstable on my workstations. I have less pain on unstable workstations with their occasional breakages than I do on stable workstations with their ancient package versions. And I have _far_ less pain on unstable workstations than on any version of Windows-based workstation, even those with 1 GB of RAM on a 2.0 GHz P4 running Windows XP Professional and very little application software. Yes, unstable does indeed break sometimes, sometimes seriously so. But in the five or so years I've been running Debian, I've seen far less breakage on Debian unstable boxes than on Windows boxes (and much, much, much more recoverability). So if you've been able to live with Windows for the past few years, you can probably handle Debian unstable. -- Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
USB memory stick?
I was given a USB memory stick, as a promotional giveawau by a vrndor, Friday. How can I use this with my Debian laptop? -- "They that would give up essential liberty for temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Secure VNC from Windows?
On Mon, Jun 21, 2004 at 02:22:19AM +0800, Alexander Nordström wrote: > On Monday, 21 Jun 2004 00:33, David Fokkema wrote: > > Is there some sort of secure vnc available with a client running on > > windows? Of course, on decent systems, ssh -X is the way to go. The > > problem is that I can't just install a Cygwin environment or something > > like that. > > Why not? What can you install, if anything? Well, a program or two neatly placed in a folder with my name. No registry links, please. And that's because it's not my machine. > I personally have my parents SSH into my box using Putty (because their ISP > does not allow incoming TCP connections to be established) and tunnel VNC > through that so I can administer their poor Windows computers 13,450 km away > and put more free software on them. The compression of SSH is even said to > make this faster than unencrypted VNC. > > It's not quite clear from your question what you wish to do and what your > constraints are, but putty, tunnel, and vnc would be good things to feed > Google. I did now, thanks! Now I know how to connect vnc to putty, which connects to my machine, :-) David -- Hi! I'm a .signature virus. Copy me into your ~/.signature to help me spread! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 'DriveReady SeekComplete Error' ?
Hi Adam,
Your hard disk isn't broken, there is a problem whith the bios and
linux, probe tu disable ulra dma on bios setup.
Please tell me since it has gone to you!!
- Original Message -
From: Adam Bogacki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 23:09:44 +1200
Subject: 'DriveReady SeekComplete Error' ?
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks. I tried
rm -rf /dev/dvd
ln -s /dev/hdc /dev/dvd
... but am not having success in mounting dvd and dmesg is giving me
the output below
which I can't interpret. Can someone tell me what
'DriveReady SeekComplete Error' means ?
Adam Bogacki,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tux:~# mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdc /mnt/dvd
mount: block device /dev/hdc is write-protected, mounting read-only
mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdc,
or too many mounted file systems
This error message is new. Mounting a Pioneer dvd player - which plays
CD's -
and *also* mounting a CDRW should not be a problem (allowing me
to use cdrecord).
Tux:~# dmesg
hdc: ATAPI DVD-ROM drive, 512kB Cache, UDMA(33)
Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.20
hdd: ATAPI 32X CD-ROM CD-R/RW drive, 2048kB Cache, DMA
SCSI subsystem initialized
Linux Kernel Card Services
options: [pci] [cardbus] [pm]
input: ImExPS/2 Generic Explorer Mouse on isa0060/serio1
hdc: command error: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
hdc: command error: error=0x50
end_request: I/O error, dev hdc, sector 64
isofs_fill_super: bread failed, dev=hdc, iso_blknum=16, block=16
hdc: command error: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
hdc: command error: error=0x50
end_request: I/O error, dev hdc, sector 64
isofs_fill_super: bread failed, dev=hdc, iso_blknum=16, block=16
udf: registering filesystem
UDF-fs DEBUG fs/udf/lowlevel.c:57:udf_get_last_session: XA disk: no,
vol_desc_s tart=0
UDF-fs DEBUG fs/udf/super.c:1546:udf_fill_super: Multi-session=0
UDF-fs DEBUG fs/udf/super.c:534:udf_vrs: Starting at sector 16 (2048
byte secto rs)
hdc: command error: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
hdc: command error: error=0x50
end_request: I/O error, dev hdc, sector 64
UDF-fs DEBUG fs/udf/super.c:1282:udf_check_valid: Failed to read byte
32768. As suming open disc. Skipping validity check
hdc: command error: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
hdc: command error: error=0x50
end_request: I/O error, dev hdc, sector 1280796
hdc: command error: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
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Re: Secure VNC from Windows?
On Sun, Jun 20, 2004 at 02:27:24PM -0400, Adam Aube wrote: > David Fokkema wrote: > > >> You could create a secure tunnel between the two systems, then run VNC > >> over it. SSH port forwarding + PuTTY would work, as would Stunnel. > > > > Just to be certain: are you saying it is possible on a windows platform > > to tunnel a vnc viewer through putty? > > Yes, though I generally prefer PuTTY's command line tool (Plink) for this - > easier to script. > > Setup PuTTY or Plink to forward a local port to the VNC port on your remote > server. Then use your preferred VNC viewer and connect to that port over > localhost. I will try that, thanks! David -- Hi! I'm a .signature virus. Copy me into your ~/.signature to help me spread! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
software suspend on 2.6.5-1-686-smp
Can someone help me how to get software suspend working on debian unstable machine? In particular I would like to try the hibernating feature. I am using default kernel-image and the /boot/config-2.6.5-1-686-smp has the following lines # # Power management options (ACPI, APM) # CONFIG_PM=y CONFIG_SOFTWARE_SUSPEND=m Now my question is what lines should I add to /etc/modules inorder to load this module? I tried running modconf, but could not find an entry relating swsusp. I was able to get acpi up and running though. thanks for your help raju -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How to install
I have a Toshiba A30 Satellite laptop currently running XP Home. I want, at minimum, to have a dual boot situation with Debian/GNU Linux. Would I be better advised to install what I have and upgrade or install a later version? The best connection I can get up here - Georgian Bay area of Ontario, Canada - is 56k. I assume a net install would be unrealistic. Shane --- Windows 95, n. 32-bit extentions and a graphical interface for a 16-bit patch for an 8-operating system origianlly written for a 4-bit microprocessor by a 2-bit company that can't stand 1-bit of competition. An excerpt from a 1996 Microsleaze ad campaign, " . . . the less you know computers the more you'll want Microsoft". See, they do get some things right. - To reply, remove the characters NOSPAM from the reply address Need a new email address that people can remember Check out the new EudoraMail at http://www.eudoramail.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Secure VNC from Windows?
David Fokkema wrote: >> You could create a secure tunnel between the two systems, then run VNC >> over it. SSH port forwarding + PuTTY would work, as would Stunnel. > > Just to be certain: are you saying it is possible on a windows platform > to tunnel a vnc viewer through putty? Yes, though I generally prefer PuTTY's command line tool (Plink) for this - easier to script. Setup PuTTY or Plink to forward a local port to the VNC port on your remote server. Then use your preferred VNC viewer and connect to that port over localhost. Adam -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Secure VNC from Windows?
On Monday, 21 Jun 2004 00:33, David Fokkema wrote: > Is there some sort of secure vnc available with a client running on > windows? Of course, on decent systems, ssh -X is the way to go. The > problem is that I can't just install a Cygwin environment or something > like that. Why not? What can you install, if anything? I personally have my parents SSH into my box using Putty (because their ISP does not allow incoming TCP connections to be established) and tunnel VNC through that so I can administer their poor Windows computers 13,450 km away and put more free software on them. The compression of SSH is even said to make this faster than unencrypted VNC. It's not quite clear from your question what you wish to do and what your constraints are, but putty, tunnel, and vnc would be good things to feed Google. -- Alex Nordstrom -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Another "testing" vs "unstable" question
On Sun, Jun 20, 2004 at 02:24:45PM -0400, Travis Crump wrote: > David Fokkema wrote: > >On Sun, Jun 20, 2004 at 11:22:57AM -0500, Michael Satterwhite wrote: > > > >>-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > >>Hash: SHA1 > >> > >>On Sunday 20 June 2004 11:16, Carl Fink wrote: > >> > >>>On Sun, Jun 20, 2004 at 11:13:37AM -0500, Michael Satterwhite wrote: > >>> > A few weeks ago (I don't know about now), the KDE distribution in > unstable simply would not run ... > > How does one recover from something like this short of doing a reload? > >>> > >>>Don't run KDE for a week or so until it's fixed? Downgrade to the > >>>version in Testing, which will still work? > >>> > >>>I mean, you DO know how to do both of those things from the command > >>>line, right? And how to get to the command line when X won't work? > >>>Otherwise, really, you shouldn't use Unstable. > >> > >>Certainly I can turn off KDE; cripples KDevelop which is needed, but can > >>be done easily. As to downgrading, I've read answers to several questions > >>saying that can't be done with apt. Unless those answers were wrong, no, > >>I don't know how to - short of a reload. > > > > > >You can downgrade with apt, that's no problem at all! What you _can't_ > >do, is downgrading _all_ packages to the version numbers available in > >testing. If you downgrade, you have to specify things like > > > >apt-get install gs=7.07-1 > > > >Doing that for hundreds of packages is no fun. > > > > Not exactly, if you put: > > Package: * > Pin: release a=testing > Pin-Priority: 1001 > > in /etc/apt/preferences, and do an apt-get dist-upgrade, apt will > happily /try/ to downgrade every package to its testing > version[alternatively adding that to /etc/apt/preferences will let you > do apt-get install without needing the version > number]. It just isn't guaranteed to work, and isn't considered a bug > if it doesn't. Wow! I didn't know that, thanks! So debian is even better than I thought, :-) But then, I don't want to downgrade, and indeed, it might still not work. David -- Hi! I'm a .signature virus. Copy me into your ~/.signature to help me spread! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Faxing from Debian
David Baron wrote: > I have gotten this to work using a couple of efax front-ends, efax-gtk and > kdeprintfax. Kdeprintfax can be set up called as a printer choice from kde > applications. However, direct applications such as OpenOffice and others > will only see the regular printers attached to the system, for example, on > a parallel port using a known driver such as for Epson or HP. You could setup a printer in these applications that calls the KDE Printing subsystem, which would give you access to all the printers configured there (including your fax printers). The full command line to setup as the printer is : /usr/bin/kprinter --stdin Adam -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
