date:20041220

On Tue, Dec 21, 2004 at 06:11:52AM +0100, housetier wrote:
> I don't think that #debian is a place for newbies to turn to when they
> need help. When newbis ask for help they face a very urgent problem
> and are usually overwhelmed by it. For their questions to be answered

That's precisely the wrong type of question to ask in IRC.
Those types of questions are answered by the innumerable "here's how to 
do X on hardware Y" webpages enthusiasts all over the world have 
published.  When you're getting started you're way too stupid to 
understand conversational answers to those type of questions.  You 
*have* to read a good deal.

It would be like taking a newborn to a restaurant.  They're not going to 
be able to order off the menu and they will continue to go hungry.

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Qmail Replacement?

2004-12-20 Thread Jacob S

Ok, I know Postfix is the mail server most people use when they're
leaving qmail, but that's only the first part of the solution I'm
looking for.

My current setup is using qmail in conjunction with vpopmail and
qmailadmin. Vpopmail is handy not just because I host several virtual
domains, but also because it allows me to setup e-mail accounts that
aren't tied to a user account. I prefer this method since pop3 sends
passwords in clear text. Qmailadmin is then handy to allow domain admins
to add e-mail accounts, users to change passwords, etc., without having
to e-mail me to get it done.

Does anyone know of some good software and/or howtos for replacing a
qmail, vpopmail and qmailadmin installation with postfix and friends, or
maybe exim?

TIA,
Jacob

Oh and it's not that I dislike qmail, I just seem to be having a problem
with patches that don't work on my 64bit cpu (Sun Ultra 10).


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Re: The Debian IRC channel

2004-12-20 Thread housetier

I don't think that #debian is a place for newbies to turn to when they
need help. When newbis ask for help they face a very urgent problem
and are usually overwhelmed by it. For their questions to be answered
in #debian they must follow a certain protocol which is strictly
enforced with all means possible (+q or +b).

This protocol is to make the life of those (who claim to be most)
"helpful" easier so they don't have to answer the same questions over
and over again, day after day. However, it is my opinion this protocol
(and its strict enforcement) violates one (maybe even more) rules of
the freenode channel guidelines, which can be found here

http://freenode.net/channel_guidelines.shtml

I am most concerned about the paragraph "Don't be elitist." there.

I have to point out, I do not doubt the willingness of the #debian
guys to help. What I am doubting is the way newbies are helped these
days. Being a mere user and not even a #debian regular anymore I am
uncertain if I can do this (*1) but I move that a new #debian channel
policy is found, one that more closely follows the freenode channel
guidelines.

Now for the time bein I would like the #debian channel owners to point
those they ban to #debian-friendly, which is where I will happily try
to assist them. #debian's door might be barred but that shouldnt mean
"they may not find what they seek".

Maybe over time the #debian channel policy is changed and we don't
need a newbie only channel anymore, rather we can have a
#debian-advanced channel or so for those that do not face the usual
newbie's problem.

Since I am sure I stepped on many people's feet with this, rest
assured I did not mean to insult you or talk little of your efforts to
help others. I know it's difficult, I know some newbies are very
stubborn, but I also know they usually appreciate the help being
given.

Debian is great, let us make the community as great to attract yet
more newbies who gladly will "spread the fire"


(*1) I know I could participate more in the debian community and one
day become a decision maker. But why would I have to do it myself if I
can try to persuade others first...

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Re: Old Release

2004-12-20 Thread Muhammad Reza


Ok, you are asking two questions here, Before answering them, can I point 
you at http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html which will make 
getting answers to your debian based questions easier. 
 

Thanks for the link,
This is because you are running woody, also known as stable. The idea behind 
stable is that it is very stable, stable enough to run for years without 
crashing, stable enough that you could forget your root password to a woody 
server and it wouldn't be a problem, stable enough that the very earth 
could be rent asunder a woody box and it wouldn't fall over. 

Because most people don't have the need for such a platform, and would 
prefer a more up to date packages, debian has two other streams. They are 
called steams because your can't really install them. Instead you install 
stable and then jump on a stream. 

The two streams:
Testing aka Sarge
This is the next stable release and the debian devs upload new packages in a 
effort to fix all the bugs in it. It will be released to replace woody at 
some point.

unstable aka sid
This is where the newest packages are tested. Unstable is very cutting edge, 
with new versions as up to date as possible. to give an example of this, 
when kde 3.3 was released, it was in unstable before any other distro had 
it. 

More information about both streams is just a google away.
to switch to one of the two streams open the file /etc/apt/sources.list and 
change all references to stable with testing or unstable. Then run apt-get 
update && apt-get dist-upgrade . Warning: this may well break your system. 

once again, more information is a google away
 

my /etc/apt/source.list get file from /cdrom, i have 7 CD of woody, and 
all line references to unstable.
here is some snip for detail;
deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 3.0r3 _Woody_ - Official i386 Binary-6 
(20041027)]/ unstable contrib main non-US/contrib non-US/main 
non-US/non-free non-free

debian:/# apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Calculating Upgrade... Done
0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0  not upgraded.
how do i upgrade my package, (ex:KDE), should i switch my source to 
debian package repository ? and if yes, what repository should i use ?

please enlight this noob.
regards
reza

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Re: usb flash stick on 2.6.8.1 kernel

2004-12-20 Thread Vijaya S

Hi .

I compiled it myself  as
make bzImage
make modules
make modules_install
cp arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.8.1

other way too i treid using make-kpkg

make-kpkg --revision-=custom-1.0 kernel-image kernel-headers

dpkg -i kernel-image-custom-1.0.deb

But the same thing for the other machine works fine and uname -r yields
2.6.8.1
any other reason for usb not to work?

Regards,
Vijaya


Darryl Clarke wrote:

> On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 17:09:53 +0530, Vijaya S <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >  Hi all,
>
> [snip]
>
> > uname -r 2.6.8.1
> > How to get usb flash stick working on 2.6.8.1 kernel debian sarge
>
> your uname -r result does not look like a debian kernel image.
>
> A debian kernel result looks like:
> halifax:~# uname -r
> 2.6.8-1-k7
>
> Did you compile the kernel yourself? If you did, I would suggest
> installing a proper debian built kernel image ( apt-get install
> kernel-image-2.6.8-1-k7 ) and it will install proper modules as well.
>
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Re: /etc writeable [was: etc writeable blah]

On Mon, Dec 20, 2004 at 08:34:10PM -0800, Alvin Oga wrote:
> if space and mem is an issue, motd is bells & whistles
> for gigb-byte sized installs

Actually, since I don't use KDE or Gnome, but use only
gnome-control-center and kcontrol and fluxbox, I have been
able to install almost everything on my host PC (except tex
and games) -- including a great deal of dev headers, on the BootCD
and the ISO is only up to 471MB compressed.

I'm shocked at how slick this is going to be.

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Re: /etc writeable [was: etc writeable blah]

2004-12-20 Thread Alvin Oga



On Mon, 20 Dec 2004, William Ballard wrote:

> > most everything under /var/log /var/spool /var/run /var/tmp
> 
> My bad.  I should have said "what other files in /etc 

think you did say /etc ... but i added the other junk about /var
and gazillion other places

> need  to be writeable."

not many files if you get rid of /var

>  BootCD already cleans /var and /tmp and
> they use < 200K of the ramfile at boot.

200K is nice and small..

1.2MB floppy or less is the smallest boot i've seen
that blows up into a 8MB system running in /dev/ram or /dev/loop

> BTW, I ran "find /etc -mmin -10" and got:
> mtab

mtab is not needed ... it'd still mount afaik
mount -n 

>, motd,

if space and mem is an issue, motd is bells & whistles
for gigb-byte sized installs

> network/, network/ifstate

i dont use dhcp, but if its config'd for dhcp,
does the system write to /etc or just use it in memory ?

> I also added fstab and hostname as these will be
> convenient to edit.

fstab is read only
hostname is read only unless you allow dhcp to overwrite it
every time

c ya
alvin


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Re: Novice Questions

On Mon, Dec 20, 2004 at 09:49:06AM -0800, Joseph Schumacher wrote:
> I will sincerely appreciate any advice you might offer. Many thanks - Joe

Make a list of the hardware in your machine.
Download and burn a Mandrake ISO, and a Knoppix ISO.
use the lspci command
Keep a windows PC up with google.  Use Google a lot.

Download a Sarge RC2 netinst ISO.
Take what you've learned and do it in Sarge.
Nothing will work out of the box.

It'll take you a month to figure how to make everything
work.  But then you won't be ignorant anymore :-)

If you use an "easy" distro where "it just works"
you'll remain ignorant forever.


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/etc writeable [was: etc writeable blah]

On Mon, Dec 20, 2004 at 12:36:04PM -0800, Alvin Oga wrote:
> On Mon, 20 Dec 2004, William Ballard wrote:
> > What other files  need to be writeable?
> 
> most everything under /var/log /var/spool /var/run /var/tmp

My bad.  I should have said "what other files in /etc need
to be writeable."  BootCD already cleans /var and /tmp and
they use < 200K of the ramfile at boot.

BTW, I ran "find /etc -mmin -10" and got:
mtab, motd, network/, network/ifstate, and adjtime
Plus several lockfiles in /etc/vmware/.../smb/.../lock
and etc/hotplug/net.enable.

I also added fstab and hostname as these will be
convenient to edit.

I haven't tested it yet.

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Re: debian boot slow due to 2min 40 sec pause during exportfs in S20nfs-kernel-server

2004-12-20 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Monday 20 December 2004 11:09 pm, Darryl Clarke wrote:

> Do you have host-name based authroity in your /etc/exports file?
> ex:
> /mirror host1,host2(ro)
Bingo!!  
you are amazing.
here is my /etc/exports
/mirror192.168.*.*(ro)
is what it is. 
Also, to compound problem, i was booting with ip address 10.14.1.2 cause i had 
to connect to another network today.
>
> If you do, NFS will try and resolve all hostnames first and cause a
> really long timeout if it can not.
So what should i do? 
I am dns challenged, and have to switch the static networks 192.168.*.* and 
10.14.*.*  and I must figure this out. What can I read?
Mitchell 
>
> Just an idea...
>
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Re: nVidia Video Drivers Need Reinstalled After Reboot

Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote:
That problem has been solved.  As per someone else's suggestion in this
thread,  a simple modprobe nvidia installed the drivers without having
to run the nVidia installer.  After that, I added nvidia to
/etc/modules, and now the drivers load automatically.
So that is one task down, a buttload more to go.  Next on the list is
getting the TV Tuner working properly, and then getting the on-board
3Com NIC working so I can access the rest of my network here at home.
   

thanks for sharing the solution. I have the same problem and enabling
the nvidia module in modconf menu solves it. Excellent indeed!
 

I'm pleased to be able to contribute to the community in someway at 
least.  :D

One of the most frustrating things with Google or other searches is 
finding many posts describing the same problem, but all of the posts 
going unanswered.  So that is why I am trying to get into the habit of 
posting my solutions here when a problem gets resolved.  That way, the 
next time someone is having a similar problem, they _should_ be able to 
find the answer with a Google search.

Oh, and getting the second on-board NIC working was real simple too.  
All I had to do was add it manually to /etc/network/interfaces, then 
issue the command networking restart.

Since I couldn't quite remember the format for a static entry, I cheated 
a bit and booted up one of my project systems, an old 48MB P-Pro 200 
running Damn Small Linux (it is eventually going to be sold as a low-end 
Linux workstation once I finish a few tweaks).  A simple cat 
/etc/network/interfaces showed me all the info I needed to plug in 
here.  Now to get Samba installed.

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Re: nVidia Video Drivers Need Reinstalled After Reboot

2004-12-20 Thread Kamaraju Kusumanchi

> That problem has been solved.  As per someone else's suggestion in this
> thread,  a simple modprobe nvidia installed the drivers without having
> to run the nVidia installer.  After that, I added nvidia to
> /etc/modules, and now the drivers load automatically.
> 
> So that is one task down, a buttload more to go.  Next on the list is
> getting the TV Tuner working properly, and then getting the on-board
> 3Com NIC working so I can access the rest of my network here at home.
> 

thanks for sharing the solution. I have the same problem and enabling
the nvidia module in modconf menu solves it. Excellent indeed!

raju

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Re: debian boot slow due to 2min 40 sec pause during exportfs in S20nfs-kernel-server

2004-12-20 Thread Darryl Clarke

On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 22:52:22 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi. I am using a notebook to share a debian mirror via a nfs mount.
> 
> However the bootup of the notebook has become very slow, due to a 2minute 40
> second 'pause' in the script S20nfs-kernel-server in /etc/rc2.d while the
> program /sbin/exportfs -r is run. I am booting up not connected to the
> network.
> 
> What is causing this timeout? I think that dns may be screwed up on the
> system... i know this cause I had to add the explicit ip addresses of device
> on the network to /etc/hosts to avoid a 10 second timeout for ssh between
> other systems and the notebook.
> 
> I am struggling to understand cacheing nameservers.
> Of course my  nfs - exportfs issues  may be unrelated to my dns issues :). I
> just may be a multifactorial newbie/screwup here. :)
> Mitchell
> 

Do you have host-name based authroity in your /etc/exports file?
ex:
/mirror host1,host2(ro)

If you do, NFS will try and resolve all hostnames first and cause a
really long timeout if it can not.

Just an idea...

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Re: best IRC client for Debian

Kirk Strauser wrote:
>> Yes, it's a problem with AOL. The date was 05/09/1953 and variations of it.
>> The page kept returning an error with the date highlighted.
> 
> Lie.  No, seriously: lie.

01/01/1981 got me in, but it all ended up in "/:misc error"
 I'll have to give it another shot later. Maybe I need
to do AOL wearing my undies.. ;-)

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debian boot slow due to 2min 40 sec pause during exportfs in S20nfs-kernel-server

2004-12-20 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi. I am using a notebook to share a debian mirror via a nfs mount.

However the bootup of the notebook has become very slow, due to a 2minute 40 
second 'pause' in the script S20nfs-kernel-server in /etc/rc2.d while the 
program /sbin/exportfs -r is run. I am booting up not connected to the 
network.

What is causing this timeout? I think that dns may be screwed up on the 
system... i know this cause I had to add the explicit ip addresses of device 
on the network to /etc/hosts to avoid a 10 second timeout for ssh between 
other systems and the notebook. 

I am struggling to understand cacheing nameservers.
Of course my  nfs - exportfs issues  may be unrelated to my dns issues :). I 
just may be a multifactorial newbie/screwup here. :)
Mitchell


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Re: nVidia Video Drivers Need Reinstalled After Reboot

Pau Capdevila wrote:
I just solved this issue removing the package nvidia-glx.
Firstly chek the nvidia kernel module loading in /etc/modules
 

That problem has been solved.  As per someone else's suggestion in this 
thread,  a simple modprobe nvidia installed the drivers without having 
to run the nVidia installer.  After that, I added nvidia to 
/etc/modules, and now the drivers load automatically.

So that is one task down, a buttload more to go.  Next on the list is 
getting the TV Tuner working properly, and then getting the on-board 
3Com NIC working so I can access the rest of my network here at home.


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TV Tuner Not Working - scantv Finds No Channels

Here is another problem that had been resolved at one time, but it has 
been so long, I don't remember how it was achieved.

I am trying to get my TV Tuner card working with either xawtv or 
TVTime.  The card is a bt878 type, and connected to the TV cable 
(us-cable, NTSC).  However, neither scantv nor TVTime detect any 
channels.  Here is what I get when I run scantv...

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ scantv
please select your TV norm
  0: PAL
  1: NTSC
  2: SECAM
  3: PAL-Nc
  4: PAL-M
  5: PAL-N
  6: NTSC-JP
  7: PAL-60
nr ? 1
please select a frequency table
  0: us-bcast
  1: us-cable
  2: us-cable-hrc
  3: japan-bcast
  4: japan-cable
  5: europe-west
  6: europe-east
  7: italy
  8: newzealand
  9: australia
 10: ireland
 11: france
 12: china-bcast
 13: southafrica
 14: argentina
 15: australia-optus
 16: russia
nr ? 1
[global]
freqtab = us-cable
[defaults]
input = Television
norm = NTSC
scanning channel list us-cable...
1( 73.25 MHz): no station
2( 55.25 MHz): no station
3( 61.25 MHz): no station
4( 67.25 MHz): no station
5( 77.25 MHz): no station
6( 83.25 MHz): no station
7(175.25 MHz): no station
8(181.25 MHz): no station
9(187.25 MHz): no station
10   (193.25 MHz): no station
11   (199.25 MHz): no station
12   (205.25 MHz): no station
13   (211.25 MHz): no station
14   (121.25 MHz): no station
15   (127.25 MHz): no station
16   (133.25 MHz): no station
17   (139.25 MHz): no station
18   (145.25 MHz): no station
19   (151.25 MHz): no station
20   (157.25 MHz): no station
21   (163.25 MHz): no station
22   (169.25 MHz): no station
23   (217.25 MHz): no station
24   (223.25 MHz): no station
25   (229.25 MHz): no station
etc, etc, through over 100 channels...
FWIW, here is the output of
hwinfo --tv
19: PCI 10a.0: 11200 TV Card
[Created at pci.244]
Unique ID: HJNj.s+Tm+MFkcrC
Parent ID: RE4e.f9Q95vpHUcA
SysFS ID: /devices/pci:00/:00:08.0/:01:0a.0
SysFS BusID: :01:0a.0
Hardware Class: tv card
Model: "Brooktree Bt878"
Vendor: pci 0x109e "Brooktree Corporation"
Device: pci 0x036e "Bt878"
Revision: 0x02
Driver: "bttv"
Memory Range: 0xd800-0xd8000fff (rw,prefetchable)
IRQ: 201 (no events)
Driver Info #0:
Driver Status: bttv is active
Driver Activation Cmd: "modprobe bttv"
Config Status: cfg=new, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown
Attached to: #15 (PCI bridge)
And here is the output of lsmod
Module Size Used by
tvaudio 22752 0
tuner 20580 0
nvsound 1535112 0
ipv6 261568 8
iptable_nat 26696 0
iptable_mangle 2752 0
af_packet 22536 2
ipt_state 1856 128
ip_conntrack 47508 2 iptable_nat,ipt_state
ipt_REJECT 6976 4
ipt_limit 2368 6
ipt_LOG 7040 6
iptable_filter 2880 1
ip_tables 18368 7 
iptable_nat,iptable_mangle,ipt_state,ipt_REJECT,ipt_limit,ipt_LOG,iptable_filter
snd_bt87x 13256 0
btaudio 17296 0
bt878 11636 0
bttv 155788 1 bt878
video_buf 22020 1 bttv
firmware_class 10368 1 bttv
i2c_algo_bit 9928 1 bttv
v4l2_common 6016 1 bttv
btcx_risc 4616 1 bttv
i2c_core 24016 4 tvaudio,tuner,bttv,i2c_algo_bit
videodev 9920 1 bttv
shpchp 100644 0
pciehp 97188 0
pci_hotplug 34160 2 shpchp,pciehp
snd_intel8x0 35020 0
snd_ac97_codec 72208 1 snd_intel8x0
snd_pcm 97608 2 snd_bt87x,snd_intel8x0
snd_timer 25604 1 snd_pcm
snd_page_alloc 9928 3 snd_bt87x,snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm
snd_mpu401_uart 7872 1 snd_intel8x0
snd_rawmidi 25060 1 snd_mpu401_uart
snd_seq_device 8072 1 snd_rawmidi
snd 57188 8 
snd_bt87x,snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device
nvidia_agp 7708 1
analog 11744 0
gameport 4544 2 snd_intel8x0,analog
parport_pc 37188 0
parport 41416 1 parport_pc
floppy 60176 0
tsdev 7616 0
mousedev 11480 1
psmouse 21832 0
pcspkr 3560 0
rtc 12664 0
evdev 9472 0
ehci_hcd 31428 0
ohci_hcd 21124 0
usbcore 118564 4 ehci_hcd,ohci_hcd
i810_audio 37268 0
ac97_codec 18508 1 i810_audio
soundcore 10272 4 nvsound,btaudio,snd,i810_audio
3c59x 39464 0
forcedeth 17664 0
agpgart 34472 2 nvidia_agp
capability 4488 0
commoncap 7040 1 capability
nvnet 70372 0
nvidia 3470172 12
ide_cd 42464 0
cdrom 40540 1 ide_cd
ext3 125672 10
jbd 63256 1 ext3
mbcache 9092 1 ext3
ide_generic 1344 0
ide_disk 20480 13
amd74xx 14044 1
ide_core 141936 4 ide_cd,ide_generic,ide_disk,amd74xx
sd_mod 17808 0
ata_piix 9092 0
libata 45252 1 ata_piix
scsi_mod 125132 2 sd_mod,libata
unix 28468 339
fbcon 40064 0
font 8256 1 fbcon
vesafb 6688 0
cfbcopyarea 3904 1 vesafb
cfbimgblt 2944 1 vesafb
cfbfillrect 3520 1 vesafb

As far as I can tell, all the required modules are loaded.  So, what 
else might I be missing?  I've already done the requisite Google search, 
and found no useful information.  Although there were a few search 
results that showed other people having the same problem.  
Unfortunately, as almost always happens, those posts received no 
answers, at least not publically.

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OT Debugging PHP "Error 500" errors

Helping a friend debug a PHP error on a hosted site.
A certain operation (building a large PDF) causes an Error 500.
Running same operation offline doesn't throw error.
A larger PDF (running different code) succeeds.

How can I debug this error?
I can't find wherever the hosting provider hid apache's error.log.

I don't think I have global write access to php.ini.
I definitely don't have root.

Can I trace the app or trace apache somehow?


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Re: Sarge with an Ensoniq Soundscape Elite ISA sound card





Adam Aube wrote:

  Etienne Fontaine-Lavoie wrote:

  
  
I already used the alsaconf tools.  It says "No supported PnP or PCI
card found. Would you like to probe legacy ISA sound cards/chips?"  I
answer yes and then it starts probing for ISA card.  It didn't find any.

  
  
That was the only suggestion I had.

What kernel are you using?

Adam


  

I use kernel 2.6.7-1-686.  The card is not detected.  I
should be able to tell the sound driver what is my hardware.

I'm clueless.





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Re: discover seems to have changed my NICs

2004-12-20 Thread H. S.

Apparently, _Jeremy Turner_, on 20/12/04 17:39,typed:
On Mon, Dec 20, 2004 at 03:59:15PM -0500, H. S. wrote:
I then realized that I had updated discover just recently. Maybe that 
detected the NICs in a different way and made eth0 as eth1 and vice versa.

That sounds like what happened.  When you move between kernel versions
(atleast a 2.4 to a 2.6) the order in which modules load might change.
If you use a kernel with modules for your NICs, I would suggest using
aliases to explicitly name your ethernet cards.  Something like:
# echo "alias eth0 3c59x" >> /etc/modprobe.d/alias
# echo "alias eth1 tulip" >> /etc/modprobe.d/alias
# update-modules
Replace "3c59x" and "tulip" with your NIC module names.
Jeremy


{modprobe.d}> ls -l /etc/modprobe.d/alias
ls: /etc/modprobe.d/alias: No such file or directory
However, I do have a "aliases" file in this directory, but which says:
"# These are the standard aliases for devices and kernel drivers.
# This file does not need to be modified.
#
# Please file a bug against module-init-tools if a package needs a entry
# in this file."
So apparently I am supposed to edit myself. What's the deal here?
->HS
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Re: Debian file check

MJang wrote:
> Just wondering if there's a dpkg (or maybe debsums) command functionally
> equivalent to 
> 
> rpm -Vf /path/to/filename
> 
> Which checks and verifies a specific file against the original package -
> or do I need to resort to a Tripwire check.

Yes, debsums. Some packages don't have the md5sums though, but if you
have the original deb:

  debsums -gap /mirrors/debian/pool/main/m/mawk/ mawk

Generating missing md5sums for /mirrors/debian/pool/main/m/mawk/ ...
/mawk_1.3.3-11_i386.deb...done.

usr/bin/mawkOK
usr/share/man/man1/mawk.1.gzOK
usr/share/doc/mawk/copyrightOK
usr/share/doc/mawk/README.gzOK
usr/share/doc/mawk/ACKNOWLEDGMENT.gzOK
usr/share/doc/mawk/changelog.gz OK
usr/share/doc/mawk/changelog.Debian.gz  OK
usr/share/doc/mawk/examples/decl.awk.gz FAILED
usr/share/doc/mawk/examples/deps.awk.gz OK
usr/share/doc/mawk/examples/gdecl.awk.gzOK
usr/share/doc/mawk/examples/hcal.gz OK
usr/share/doc/mawk/examples/hical.gzOK
usr/share/doc/mawk/examples/nocomment.awk.gzOK
usr/share/doc/mawk/examples/primes.awk.gz   OK
usr/share/doc/mawk/examples/qsort.awk.gzOK
usr/share/doc/mawk/examples/ct_length.awk.gzOK
usr/share/doc/mawk/examples/eatc.awk.gz OK


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Re: discover seems to have changed my NICs

2004-12-20 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Monday 20 December 2004 05:39 pm, Jeremy Turner wrote:

> (atleast a 2.4 to a 2.6) the order in which modules load might change.
>
> If you use a kernel with modules for your NICs, I would suggest using
> aliases to explicitly name your ethernet cards.  Something like:
>
> # echo "alias eth0 3c59x" >> /etc/modprobe.d/alias
> # echo "alias eth1 tulip" >> /etc/modprobe.d/alias
> # update-modules

I am a debian newbie, learning the ropes. I have seen the update-modules 
command on a few mailings to debian-user. But when I go to the man page to 
find out what it does, it says:
UPDATE-MODULES(8) Debian
UPDATE-MODULES(8)
NAME
   update-modules - obsolete command

what is it doing? I am running sid and I see files 
a /etc/modules  /etc/modules.conf  /etc/modules.conf.old
and a /etc/modprobe.d/ directory with aliases.
Is there a nice document to explain the relative roles of these 
files/directories and their associated shell commands in a modern debian 
environment?
Thanks,
MItchell 
>
> Replace "3c59x" and "tulip" with your NIC module names.
>
> Jeremy


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Re: Sarge with an Ensoniq Soundscape Elite ISA sound card

Etienne Fontaine-Lavoie wrote:

> I already used the alsaconf tools.  It says "No supported PnP or PCI
> card found. Would you like to probe legacy ISA sound cards/chips?"  I
> answer yes and then it starts probing for ISA card.  It didn't find any.

That was the only suggestion I had.

What kernel are you using?

Adam


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Re: Re: Cdrom Problems

2004-12-20 Thread bill

I beleve it was kio_audiocd preventing me from ejecting the cd.
I removed the kdemultimedia-plugin package and it seems to fix the 
problem. I don't use music cd's on the system anyway.

Thanks for your time.
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Re: Sarge with an Ensoniq Soundscape Elite ISA sound card

Please don't top post (which is replying above the original message, making
the thread hard to follow).

Etienne Fontaine-Lavoie wrote:
> Adam Aube wrote:
>> Etienne Fontaine-Lavoie wrote:

>>Please turn off HTML when posting to mailing lists.

> I'm sorry.  Here it is again in plain text

Thanks.

[reposted content snipped]

>>> I'm running Sarge with an old Ensoniq Sounscape Elite ISA card.  I
>>> read a lot during the past few month to get this card working but
>>> everything I tried didn't work so far.

>>> I know the dma, irq, etc.but it didn't work when I entered them as
>>> options in the alsa file in /etc/modutil/alsa (I did an "update-modules"
>>> after) 

>>> When I start alsa (/etc/init.d/alsa start), I got this message:"Starting
>>> ALSA.../etc/init.d/alsa: Error: alsactl restore failed with message
>>> 'alsactl: load_state:1134: No soundcards found...'"

>> Install the alsa-utils package, then use alsaconf to configure your
>> sound. 

So did you try using alsaconf?

Adam


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Re: Cdrom Question

bill wrote:

> When I mount the cdrom in kde, half the time, I can't unmount it or
> can't eject it
> Can anyone offer me some information on this or let me know where I
> might find it?

Try using fuser to see what is keeping the CD-ROM busy:

fuser -m /media/cdrom

(Change /media/cdrom to the mountpoint of your CD-ROM)

Adam


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Re: Sarge with an Ensoniq Soundscape Elite ISA sound card

I already used the alsaconf tools.  It says "No supported PnP or PCI 
card found. Would you like to probe legacy ISA sound cards/chips?"  I 
answer yes and then it starts probing for ISA card.  It didn't find any. 
I got:

Unloading sound driver modules...done.
modinfo: could not find module snd-opl3sa2
modinfo: could not find module snd-cs4236
modinfo: could not find module snd-cs4232
modinfo: could not find module snd-cs4231
modinfo: could not find module snd-es18xx
modinfo: could not find module snd-es1688
modinfo: could not find module snd-sb16
modinfo: could not find module snd-sb8
Is there a way I can tell my card's irq, dma, io.  I tried in 
/etc/modutil/alsa and update-modules but it didn't change anything.

Adam Aube wrote:
Please turn off HTML when posting to mailing lists.
Etienne Fontaine-Lavoie wrote:
 

I'm running Sarge with an old Ensoniq Sounscape Elite ISA card.  I
read a lot during the past few month to get this card working but
everything I tried didn't work so far.
   

 

I know the dma, irq, etc.but it didn't work when I entered them as options
in the alsa file in /etc/modutil/alsa (I did an "update-modules" after)
   

 

When I start alsa (/etc/init.d/alsa start), I got this message:"Starting
ALSA.../etc/init.d/alsa: Error: alsactl restore failed with message
'alsactl: load_state:1134: No soundcards found...'"
   

Install the alsa-utils package, then use alsaconf to configure your sound.
Adam
 


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Re: best IRC client for Debian

2004-12-20 Thread Kirk Strauser

On Monday 20 December 2004 07:10 pm, James Vahn wrote:

> Yes, it's a problem with AOL. The date was 05/09/1953 and variations of it.
> The page kept returning an error with the date highlighted.

Lie.  No, seriously: lie.

> My daughter is an AOL'er. She was camped out there and I couldn't reach
> her by phone (dialup), so I drove over and there she was, in her UNDERWEAR
> sitting in front of the computer.

Is she cute?

DARN!  Too many years on IRC/Slashdot/Fark have made that a reflex.  Sorry 
'bout that.
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Re: Sarge with an Ensoniq Soundscape Elite ISA sound card

I'm sorry. Here it is again in plain text
I'm running Sarge with an old Ensoniq Sounscape Elite ISA card. I read
a lot during the past few month to get this card working but everything
I tried didn't work so far. It's a pretty old card and all the
information I could find was outdated. One thing I know is that I had
sound with this card on Redhat (can't remember the version but it was in
1998!). The card is not discovered by the system because I got nothing
when I try the isapnp tool. I know the dma, irq, etc. but it didn't
work when I entered them as options in the alsa file in
/etc/modutil/alsa (I did an "update-modules" after). When I start alsa
(/etc/init.d/alsa start), I got this message:"Starting
ALSA.../etc/init.d/alsa: Error: alsactl restore failed with message
'alsactl: load_state:1134: No soundcards found...'".

Here is a part of the lsmod
snd_sscape 17184 0
snd_cs4231_lib 28128 1 snd_sscape
snd_pcm98440 1 snd_cs4231_lib
snd_timer 25924 2 snd_cs4231_lib,snd_pcm
snd_page_alloc 10120 3 snd_sscape,snd_cs4231_lib,snd_pcm
snd_hwdep 9668 1 snd_sscape
snd_mpu401_uart 8128 1 snd_sscape
snd_rawmidi25224 1 snd_mpu401_uart
snd_seq_device 9004 1 snd_rawmidi
snd57828 8
snd_sscape,snd_cs4231_lib,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_hwdep,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device
soundcore 10336 1 snd

Also, after doing a lot of things, I heard some scrachy sounds but this
was a few weeks ago.

I don't know if my webcam's microphone interfere with the sound card.
I was thinking about getting a newer card but I want to give a try with
this one before doing so.

Thanks in advance.
Etienne
Adam Aube wrote:
Please turn off HTML when posting to mailing lists.
Etienne Fontaine-Lavoie wrote:

I'm running Sarge with an old Ensoniq Sounscape Elite ISA card. I
read a lot during the past few month to get this card working but
everything I tried didn't work so far.

I know the dma, irq, etc.but it didn't work when I entered them as options
in the alsa file in /etc/modutil/alsa (I did an "update-modules" after)

When I start alsa (/etc/init.d/alsa start), I got this message:"Starting
ALSA.../etc/init.d/alsa: Error: alsactl restore failed with message
'alsactl: load_state:1134: No soundcards found...'"

Install the alsa-utils package, then use alsaconf to configure your sound.
Adam

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Re: best IRC client for Debian

Peter wrote:
> On Monday 20 Dec 2004 21:02, James Vahn wrote:
>> Just this morning I was trying to get kopete to talk AIM and it led
>> me to an AOL registration page, which kept refusing my birthdate.
>> Methinks it is broken, although I'd like to refuse any more birthdays
>> too..
> 
> From my quick look at the button, it points you to a aol page, so it isn't 
> really kopete's fault. If you think it is a problem, file it at 
> bugs.kde.org. Can you provide the date you are using?

Yes, it's a problem with AOL. The date was 05/09/1953 and variations of it.
The page kept returning an error with the date highlighted. 

My daughter is an AOL'er. She was camped out there and I couldn't reach
her by phone (dialup), so I drove over and there she was, in her UNDERWEAR
sitting in front of the computer. I was hoping next time I could send a
warning of impending visit via Instant Message..

That's probably more info than you wanted, but there you go. :-)

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Re: Cdrom Problems

2004-12-20 Thread Kent West

tech wrote:
When I mount the cdrom in kde, half the time, I can't unmount it or 
can't eject it Can anyone offer me some information on this or let me 
know where I might find it?

 Thanks for your time,  Bill H.

I believe it may have to do with famd; try killing that process and see 
if it releases the CD-ROM. I have no detailed knowledge of this problem, 
however.

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Re: Cdrom Question

2004-12-20 Thread Robert Vangel

Posting the same question twice, under different names/emails isn't 
likely to get you help quicker.. if anything, slower due to people being 
annoyed.

bill wrote:
When I mount the cdrom in kde, half the time, I can't unmount it or 
can't eject it Can anyone offer me some information on this or let me 
know where I might find it?

  Thanks for your time,  Bill H.



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Re: hangup during boot (kernel 2.4.27)

Michiel wrote:
> Yes, this is all built into the kernel (including ext3 and jbd).
> I read something about that you need to use an initrd image file when 
> the root partition has an ext3 filesystem. But I guess this is only 
> needed when the ext3 drivers are loaded as a module?

I have an ext3 root and no initrd. Found make-kpkg frustrating
though, I will say that. Could only get it to work with the
--initrd flag, and it kept ignoring my .config .. The symptoms
were exactly as you described. 

What happens if you try it the "hard way":

make menuconfig  (just to verify things)
make bzImage modules modules_install
cp vmlinux /
cp System.map /
lilo
reboot


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Cdrom Question

2004-12-20 Thread bill

When I mount the cdrom in kde, half the time, I can't unmount it or 
can't eject it 
Can anyone offer me some information on this or let me know where I 
might find it?

  Thanks for your time,  Bill H.
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Cdrom Problems

2004-12-20 Thread tech

When I mount the cdrom in kde, half the time, I can't unmount it or 
can't eject it Can anyone offer me some information on this or let me 
know where I might find it?

 Thanks for your time,  Bill H.
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Re: discover seems to have changed my NICs

H. S. wrote:

> Yesterday, due to some weird reason, my network went down yesterday.
> When I rebooted into Fedora to see if it worked, it did. Then I rebooted
> into 2.4.26 kernel in Debian. That worked too. Then I tried again in
> 2.6.9 and 2.6.7 kernels in Debian and networking failed again.

> The solution was to interchange the configuration of eth1 and eth0 in
> Debian and then my networking worked perfectly.

> Has anyone else experienced something like this recently? And how come
> the detection in Debian did not need to be changed when I ran 2.4.26
> kernel?

The 2.6 kernel changed the detection order for PCI devices compared to 2.4.

Adam


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Re: Novice Questions

2004-12-20 Thread Kent West

Adam Aube wrote:
Kent West wrote:
 

(PS, don't bottom post.)
   

Like you just did?
I think you meant "don't top post".
Adam
 

Oops. Thanks for catching that :-^
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Re: Novice Questions

Kent West wrote:

> (PS, don't bottom post.)

Like you just did?

I think you meant "don't top post".

Adam


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Sony Vaio Problems

2004-12-20 Thread Sergio Basurto Juarez

Hello All,
Kernel: 2.6.8-1
Debian: Testing

I have a couple of problems I hope someone can help
me:
First the hardware that I have:
:00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 82852/855GM Host
Bridge (rev 02)
:00:00.1 System peripheral: Intel Corp. 855GM/GME
GMCH Memory I/O Control Registers (rev 02)
:00:00.3 System peripheral: Intel Corp. 855GM/GME
GMCH Configuration Process Registers (rev 02)
:00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corp.
82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02)
:00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corp.
82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02)
:00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corp.
82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI
Controller #1 (rev 03)
:00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corp.
82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI
Controller #2 (rev 03)
:00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp.
82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI
Controller #3 (rev 03)
:00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB/DBM
(ICH4/ICH4-M) USB 2.0 EHCI Controller (rev 03)
:00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82801 PCI Bridge
(rev 83)
:00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82801DBM LPC
Interface Controller (rev 03)
:00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801DBM
(ICH4) Ultra ATA Storage Controller (rev 03)
:00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corp. 82801DB/DBL/DBM
(ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) SMBus Controller (rev 03)
:00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp.
82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio
Controller (rev 03)
:00:1f.6 Modem: Intel Corp. 82801DB/DBL/DBM
(ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Modem Controller (rev 03)
:02:05.0 CardBus bridge: Ricoh Co Ltd RL5c475 (rev
b8)
:02:05.1 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Ricoh Co Ltd R5C551
IEEE 1394 Controller
:02:08.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corp. 82801BD
PRO/100 VE (MOB) Ethernet Controller (rev 83)
:02:0b.0 Network controller: Intel Corp.
PRO/Wireless 2200BG (rev 05)

What is not working is:
1. Sound, I already configure alsa, and use alsaconf
without problems, I set the volume on and at 100% with
alsamixer but I have not sound.

2. Firewire I already have the modules loaded
nevertheless I recieved a messages at boot time that
said:

eth1: unknown hardware address type 24
listening on LPF/eth1/
listening on LPF/eth1/

and did not get an ipaddress from the DHCP server.

Which modules I have loaded?, please see attachment.

I will really appreciate any help on this issues, I
have been googling and reading a lot but I can get
this work.

Regards.

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Re: hangup during boot (kernel 2.4.27)

Michiel Jansen wrote:
> James Vahn wrote:
>> Michiel Jansen wrote:

>>>No my customized kernel does not load an initrd.img file. It is also not
>>>generated during kernel compilation.

>>Is ATA/IDE/MFM/RLL support built in?
>>PCI IDE chipset support?

> Yes, this is all built into the kernel (including ext3 and jbd).

Boot using the working kernel, then use diff to show the differences between
the kernel configs (both are in /boot). That might give you a hint.

> I read something about that you need to use an initrd image file when
> the root partition has an ext3 filesystem. But I guess this is only
> needed when the ext3 drivers are loaded as a module?

Correct.

Adam


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Re: Sarge with an Ensoniq Soundscape Elite ISA sound card

Please turn off HTML when posting to mailing lists.

Etienne Fontaine-Lavoie wrote:

> I'm running Sarge with an old Ensoniq Sounscape Elite ISA card.  I
> read a lot during the past few month to get this card working but
> everything I tried didn't work so far.

> I know the dma, irq, etc.but it didn't work when I entered them as options
> in the alsa file in /etc/modutil/alsa (I did an "update-modules" after)

> When I start alsa (/etc/init.d/alsa start), I got this message:"Starting
> ALSA.../etc/init.d/alsa: Error: alsactl restore failed with message
> 'alsactl: load_state:1134: No soundcards found...'"

Install the alsa-utils package, then use alsaconf to configure your sound.

Adam


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Re: questions about disk partitions

2004-12-20 Thread Alvin Oga



On Mon, 20 Dec 2004, Eric wrote:

> Hello all. 
> 
> I was in need of some more hard disk space and so I figured I'd reclaim some
> of the unused space in my rarely used XP partition. XP is located on hda1.
> I resized hda1 from 35GB to 15GB using ntfsresize leaving ~20GB of free
> space, but I can't create a new partition since I've already got 3 primary
> partitions (+ 1 extended). Is there any way I can create a logical
> partition out of the now unused space on hda1 (keeping in mind that the
> free space is physically located between hda1 and hda2)?

assuming ntfsresize worked properly and correctly 

0) -- do NOT use random number for partition scheme assigned by 
   the default installers 
- use all 3 primary partitions before using logical partitions

1) remember the start and end cylinder number of hda1 and the current
   hda2
- backup any data BEFORE you play with partitions

2) delete hda2
3) create a new hda2 at the end of hda1  and before your previous hda2
- insert the new partition
4) create a new partition hda3 of the previous old hda2
- run e2fsck or equivalent on the new hda3
- rename any references to hda2 to be the new hda3

5) format hda2 after the system is working properly like before
   and than mount and use the new space

c ya
alvin


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Re: make-kpkg modules_image

2004-12-20 Thread John

On (20/12/04 15:30), Matt Zagrabelny wrote:
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> hello,
> trying to get the hostap modules working:
> # aptitude install hostap-source
> $ make-kpkg --append-to-version=.20041220.0 kernel_image modules_image
> # dpkg -i /usr/src/kernel-image2.6.9.20041220.0_10.00.Custom_i386.deb
> # dpkg -i /usr/src/hostap-modules-2.6.9.20041220.0_0.2.5-1
> +10.00.Custom_i386.deb
> everything is fine.
> reboot.
> # modprobe hostap
> FATAL: Module hostap not found.
> # insmod /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/hostap.ko
> works.
> i would like to get the modprobe of that module to work.
> any tips, hints, or recommendations?
> thanks,
> matt zagrabelny

Adding "hostap_pci" to /etc/modules worked for me (custom 2.6.8
kernel).


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Unidentified subject!

2004-12-20 Thread John

On (20/12/04 15:30), Matt Zagrabelny wrote:
> hello,
> trying to get the hostap modules working:
> # aptitude install hostap-source
> $ make-kpkg --append-to-version=.20041220.0 kernel_image modules_image
> # dpkg -i /usr/src/kernel-image2.6.9.20041220.0_10.00.Custom_i386.deb
> # dpkg -i /usr/src/hostap-modules-2.6.9.20041220.0_0.2.5-1
> +10.00.Custom_i386.deb
> everything is fine.
> reboot.
> # modprobe hostap
> FATAL: Module hostap not found.
> # insmod /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/hostap.ko
> works.
> i would like to get the modprobe of that module to work.
> any tips, hints, or recommendations?
> thanks,
> 
> matt zagrabelny

With a custom 2.6.8 kernel, adding hostap_pci to /etc/modules worked
for me.


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ot, changing screen numbers

2004-12-20 Thread Robert Vangel

This isn't specifically debian, but everyone seems to know what they are 
talking about so I figured what the hey :)

Does anyone know if it's possible to change the number of each 
individual screen, in a screen session.

eg.. I run screen from my login, it gives me a new screen session with 
bash prompt.

I then run `screen irssi' and `screen centericq' to open up my first two 
screens that I know I am going to be keeping open for as long as the box 
is staying up.

At a later stage, I open up another screen with another bash prompt, and 
while that one is open I open another irssi.

So now we have:
0. bash
1. irssi
2. centericq
3. bash
4. irssi
If I close screen 3, is there a way for me to renumber screen 4 back to 
3 (so that if I open another screen, the NEW one will be 4, rather than 
filling the gap 3 left).

On another note (similar topic), is there a way to reorder the screens, 
so from the above example I could make them:

0. bash
1. bash
2. irssi
3. irssi
4. centericq
I don't know why (but some people may agree), but I have always liked 
similar sessions grouped together, just makes stuff easier to use (and 
easier to remember what screen is doing what).

I have been looking through archives of lists, but keywords such as 
'screen' and 'change' aren't terribly specific.


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Re: pdftohtml

2004-12-20 Thread Gerard Robin

On Sun, Dec 19, 2004 at 01:39:49PM -0800, Karsten M. Self wrote:
> on Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 01:48:33AM +0100, Gerard Robin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
> wrote:
> > Hello,
> > 
> > I have a few problems with pdftohtml (unstable) :
> > 
> > with one pdf file I get a suitable html file but with another one I get an 
> > unreadable html file.
> > 
> > I tried "pdftohtml -c -l 1 file.pdf"  but the output is always unreadable 
> > and I get the message:  
> > 
> > free(): invalid pointer 0x80f02e0!
> > Page-1
> > 
> > 
> > However xpdf (or gv) displays correctly this file.pdf.
> > 
> > I guess that the problem comes out of the feature of this pdf file and
> > I would like to know if it 
> 
> Note first that 'PDF' isn't a simple file format.  Some PDFs are little
> more than marked-up text, others are essentially large image files
> (scanned in faxes from lawyers, such as are posted to Groklaw, are
> infamous for this).
> 
> There are also a few different versions of the PDF and PS formats.
> 
> 
> If you can post or point to the file you're trying to convert, this
> could be helpful.  Knowing how that file was created and with what
> tools, ditto.
> 
> 'ps2ps' on a Postscript file sometimes works around bugs that stymie
> some viewers (or printers).  It's a roundabout way, but:
> 
>pdf2ps file.pdf file.ps
>ps2ps file.ps file-new.ps
>ps2pdf file-new.ps file-new.pdf
>pdftohtml file-new.pdf file-new.html
> 
> ...might get you somewhere.  Most likely, a really broken hash of a
> file.
> 
> 
> Alternatively, if the source of the PDF file is available, converting
> *it* to HTML directly should provide far superior results.

I have joined the pdftohtml-general list and I obtained part of the solution:

We have to copy the file /etc/xpdf/xpdfrc in our home directoty (.xpdfrc)and 
add int it the line:

unicodeMap Latin2 /usr/share/xpdf/latin2/Latin2.unicodeMap

After that, we must launch the command:

pdftohtml -enc Latin2 file.pdf

Normaly we expected a file: file.html, but I obtained : segmentation fault ;-)

I tried again pdftohtml -c -enc Latin2 file.pdf and then it works.

The result was better than with the command: pdftohtml file.pdf, but it was 
not perfect yet:

The accents are almost right except the è and the ê and the 
underline 
(image.png) which was not in the right place.

The user of the list pdftohtml-general who helped me was surprised that the 
command: 

pdftohtml -enc Latin2 file.pdf gave me segmentation fault whereas for him this 
command
worked fine.

He wondered if it was my OS (unstable) which had problem ? 

There is the link where the pdf file (cobjet.pdf) that I use is located:

http://perso.wanadoo.fr/aymeric.sabine/developpement/bibliotheque/c/libal.zip


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questions about disk partitions

2004-12-20 Thread Eric

Hello all. 

I was in need of some more hard disk space and so I figured I'd reclaim some
of the unused space in my rarely used XP partition. XP is located on hda1.
I resized hda1 from 35GB to 15GB using ntfsresize leaving ~20GB of free
space, but I can't create a new partition since I've already got 3 primary
partitions (+ 1 extended). Is there any way I can create a logical
partition out of the now unused space on hda1 (keeping in mind that the
free space is physically located between hda1 and hda2)?


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Re: best IRC client for Debian

2004-12-20 Thread Robert Vangel

I only ever use XChat for gui (whether I'm in KDE or Gnome), just 
because it looks nice and fairly easy to use.

For CLI, I'm most partial to irssi. Once again, it looks fairly nice, 
easier to use, and just seems a whole lot easier than bitchx/epic.

Shaikh Quader wrote:
What is the best IRC client for Debian?
In particular, I am looking for an IRC Client which is functionally 
similar to mIRC.

Thanks,
Shaikh



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Debian file check

2004-12-20 Thread MJang

Folks, 

Just wondering if there's a dpkg (or maybe debsums) command functionally
equivalent to 

rpm -Vf /path/to/filename

Which checks and verifies a specific file against the original package -
or do I need to resort to a Tripwire check.

Thanks,
Mike


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Re: No CD sound

2004-12-20 Thread Ted Parks

Andrea,

I am using ALSA. I now have gotten XMMS to work, I think consistently,
by configuring the CD plugin to read the CD through Digital Audio
Extraction.

But I still don't understand why, before, XMMS would work some of the
time. And is there a way to configure GNOME-CD or KsCD to read the CD
through Digital Audio Extraction?

And why do I have to use DAE on the Toshiba anyway?

I appreciate your help,
Ted


On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 20:12:58 +0100, Andrea Vettorello
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 11:14:43 -0600, Ted Parks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Running Sarge, my Toshiba Tecra 8000 laptop loads the proper sound
> > module, snd-OPL3SA2. But XMMS and GNOME-CD will only occasionally play
> > the sound from an audio-CD, even though they read the titles from the
> > CD tracks.
> >
> > What's the problem?
> >
> > Somebody recommended that I upgrade the kernel to 2.6. Would this help?
> >
> 
> You can try, if you have a net access is trivial to install a Debian
> kernel image, but i suspect is only a misconfiguration of your sound
> card mixer. Are you using ALSA or OSS?
> 
> Andrea
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Re: Sarge with an Ensoniq Soundscape Elite ISA sound card

2004-12-20 Thread Antonio Rodriguez

On Mon, Dec 20, 2004 at 06:00:11PM -0500, Etienne Fontaine-Lavoie wrote:

> html
> 
>   meta content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type">
>   title>
> /head>
> body bgcolor="#ff" text="#00">
> Hi, 
> 
> I'm running Sarge with an old Ensoniq Sounscape Elite ISA card.  I read
> a lot during the past few month to get this card working but everything
> I tried didn't work so far.  It's a pretty old card and all the
> information I could find was outdated.  One thing I know is that I had
> sound with this card on Redhat (can't remember the version but it was
> in 1998!).  The card is not discovered by the system because I got
> nothing when I try the isapnp tool.  I know the dma, irq, etc. but it
> didn't work when I entered them as options in the alsa file in
> /etc/modutil/alsa (I did an "update-modules" after).  When I start alsa
> (/etc/init.d/alsa start), I got this message:"Starting
> ALSA.../etc/init.d/alsa: Error: alsactl restore failed with message
> 'alsactl: load_state:1134: No soundcards found...'".  
> 
> Here is a part of the lsmod
> 
> snd_sscape
>  17184  0
> snd_cs4231_lib 28128  1 
> snd_sscape
> snd_pcm   
>  98440  1 snd_cs4231_lib
> snd_timer 
>  25924  2 snd_cs4231_lib,snd_pcm
> snd_page_alloc 10120  3 
> snd_sscape,snd_cs4231_lib,snd_pcm
> snd_hwdep  
>  9668  1 snd_sscape
> snd_mpu401_uart 8128  1 
> snd_sscape
> snd_rawmidi    
> 25224  1 snd_mpu401_uart
> snd_seq_device  
> 9004  1 snd_rawmidi
> snd   
>  57828  8
> snd_sscape,snd_cs4231_lib,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_hwdep,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device
> soundcore 
>  10336  1 snd
> 
> Also, after doing a lot of things, I heard some scrachy sounds but this
> was a few weeks ago.
> 
> I don't know if my webcam's microphone interfere with the sound card.
> 
> I was thinking about getting a newer card but I want to give a try with
> this one before doing so.
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Etienne
> 


I changed your html file a little bit, just enough to make you see how
it looks when seen as text. In this list we don't use html messages,
please use text. html makes it difficult to read, and therefore to provide
any help.


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Re: best IRC client for Debian

2004-12-20 Thread Peter Nuttall

On Monday 20 Dec 2004 21:02, James Vahn wrote:
> Peter Nuttall wrote:
> > guy then it should be good for you. Kopete is in the style of a IM
> > client, and in fact supports all the common IM protocols, but if you
> > are a power irc users it isn't for you.
>
> Just this morning I was trying to get kopete to talk AIM and it led
> me to an AOL registration page, which kept refusing my birthdate.
> Methinks it is broken, although I'd like to refuse any more birthdays
> too..

From my quick look at the button, it points you to a aol page, so it isn't 
really kopete's fault. If you think it is a problem, file it at 
bugs.kde.org. Can you provide the date you are using?

Pete

Re: NeverEverNoSanity WebWorm???????

2004-12-20 Thread Roberto Sanchez

Simon Buchanan wrote:
Hi, A little over an hour ago.. all our PHP and HTML files got changed 
to this on my little develpoment box:



This site is defaced!!!

This site is defaced!!!

NeverEverNoSanity WebWorm generation 11.

this is wierd, you cant ssh into the box. its got 
pureftpd/apache/php/mysql running on it. with only ftp/http ports open, 
all else firewalled out

WTF!!!?
I cant find any reference to this on google??
It means that you have been p0wned.  Someone has gained root access
to your box and obviously defaced your website.  Since they had root
access, there is no telling what other damage they may have done.
You will need to wipe the machine clean and start with a fresh install.
-Roberto Sanchez


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Sarge with an Ensoniq Soundscape Elite ISA sound card





Hi, 

I'm running Sarge with an old Ensoniq Sounscape Elite ISA card.  I read
a lot during the past few month to get this card working but everything
I tried didn't work so far.  It's a pretty old card and all the
information I could find was outdated.  One thing I know is that I had
sound with this card on Redhat (can't remember the version but it was
in 1998!).  The card is not discovered by the system because I got
nothing when I try the isapnp tool.  I know the dma, irq, etc. but it
didn't work when I entered them as options in the alsa file in
/etc/modutil/alsa (I did an "update-modules" after).  When I start alsa
(/etc/init.d/alsa start), I got this message:"Starting
ALSA.../etc/init.d/alsa: Error: alsactl restore failed with message
'alsactl: load_state:1134: No soundcards found...'".  

Here is a part of the lsmod

snd_sscape 17184  0
snd_cs4231_lib 28128  1 snd_sscape
snd_pcm    98440  1 snd_cs4231_lib
snd_timer  25924  2 snd_cs4231_lib,snd_pcm
snd_page_alloc 10120  3 snd_sscape,snd_cs4231_lib,snd_pcm
snd_hwdep   9668  1 snd_sscape
snd_mpu401_uart 8128  1 snd_sscape
snd_rawmidi    25224  1 snd_mpu401_uart
snd_seq_device  9004  1 snd_rawmidi
snd    57828  8
snd_sscape,snd_cs4231_lib,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_hwdep,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device
soundcore  10336  1 snd

Also, after doing a lot of things, I heard some scrachy sounds but this
was a few weeks ago.

I don't know if my webcam's microphone interfere with the sound card.

I was thinking about getting a newer card but I want to give a try with
this one before doing so.

Thanks in advance.

Etienne





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swsusp wipes out the swap file

2004-12-20 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Hi Debian!
I am trying to get swsusp working in the 2.6.8 kernel that comes with 
the installer rc2. I have asked this question before, but now I know more.

So I recompiled the kernel with:
# Power management options (ACPI, APM)
#
CONFIG_PM=y
CONFIG_SOFTWARE_SUSPEND=y
CONFIG_PM_DISK=y
CONFIG_PM_DISK_PARTITION="/dev/hda13"
but all other options, including initrd, exactly the same.
According to the Documentation one can suspend either with:
echo 4 >/proc/acpi/sleep
or:
echo disk >/sys/power/state
That works. It suspends the system and shuts off power. (Minor matter: 
it seems you cannot use framebuffers or have mysql running ;-) )

But... on rebooting with append="resume=/dev/hda13" I get a message:
kernel: Unable to find swap-space signature.
swsusp messed up the swap. Now you cannot suspend anymore: he will 
complain there is no swap space, and he's right.

So mkswap /dev/hda13 sets that right and he will suspend again.
Googling in http://groups.google.com.au/groups with the good googler I 
came across exactly this symptom, but more than a year ago and for 2.6.0.

So a question: has anyone got software_suspend (not the one from here:
http://softwaresuspend.berlios.de/index.html)
to work with resume?
It also happens with 2.6.9.
Thanks!
H

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NeverEverNoSanity WebWorm???????

2004-12-20 Thread Simon Buchanan

Hi, A little over an hour ago.. all our PHP and HTML files got changed to 
this on my little develpoment box:



This site is defaced!!!

This site is defaced!!!

NeverEverNoSanity WebWorm generation 11.

this is wierd, you cant ssh into the box. its got pureftpd/apache/php/mysql 
running on it. with only ftp/http ports open, all else firewalled out

WTF!!!?
I cant find any reference to this on google??
_
Theres never been a better time to get Xtra JetStream @  
http://xtra.co.nz/jetstream

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Re: discover seems to have changed my NICs

2004-12-20 Thread Jeremy Turner

On Mon, Dec 20, 2004 at 03:59:15PM -0500, H. S. wrote:
> I then realized that I had updated discover just recently. Maybe that 
> detected the NICs in a different way and made eth0 as eth1 and vice versa.

That sounds like what happened.  When you move between kernel versions
(atleast a 2.4 to a 2.6) the order in which modules load might change.

If you use a kernel with modules for your NICs, I would suggest using
aliases to explicitly name your ethernet cards.  Something like:

# echo "alias eth0 3c59x" >> /etc/modprobe.d/alias
# echo "alias eth1 tulip" >> /etc/modprobe.d/alias
# update-modules

Replace "3c59x" and "tulip" with your NIC module names.

Jeremy

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Re: hangup during boot (kernel 2.4.27)

James Vahn wrote:
No my customized kernel does not load an initrd.img file. It is also not 
generated during kernel compilation.
   

Is ATA/IDE/MFM/RLL support built in?
PCI IDE chipset support?
I'm out of guesses, sorry.
 

Yes, this is all built into the kernel (including ext3 and jbd).
I read something about that you need to use an initrd image file when 
the root partition has an ext3 filesystem. But I guess this is only 
needed when the ext3 drivers are loaded as a module?

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Re: The Debian IRC channel

2004-12-20 Thread Chris Metzler

On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 13:49:31 -0800
Paul Johnson wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> That being said: Why is this so hard to grasp?  Until you can comply 
> with this list's rules on conduct, this conversation is over.

Paul, are you sure he's hitting "reply to all"?  There certainly might
be something munged on my end; but I'm not seeing his replies to you.
It looks from here like he's mailing you and you alone.

-c

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Re: hangup during boot (kernel 2.4.27)

> No my customized kernel does not load an initrd.img file. It is also not 
> generated during kernel compilation.

Is ATA/IDE/MFM/RLL support built in?
PCI IDE chipset support?

I'm out of guesses, sorry.


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Re: The Debian IRC channel

2004-12-20 Thread Paul Johnson

On Monday 20 December 2004 11:32 am, you wrote:

> Ok, so where did I say that?? I NEVER talked about switching IP's. So 
> this is the time when I am right to start adressing you as a FOOL!? 
> Because you made a mistake? According to you and a couple of other 
> geeks it is! 
> [...]
> If both supporting people with debian at work and later on after work 
> makes you so stressed that you must treat people bad, you should 
> change work!

1) I haven't treated you in any way I would not expect myself to be 
treated if I were out of line.  

2) Your outburst is uncalled for.  People on this list and on IRC 
participate because they *love* this job, but don't like handholding 
people through every last bit.  Do your homework, this is in the 
archives of many mailing lists, not just debian related ones.  You 
committed many faux pas common to trolls and people who somehow have 
this misguided notion that people will hand-hold everybody for nothing.

> >>My quess is that you are one of those persons whom I am adressing.
> > 
> > 
> > No.  I'm baloo on IRC just as I am here, I was not on #debian last 
> > night.
> >  
> 
> Yeah right! But even if you wasn't you make a good demonstration.

Go check last night's IRC logs if you don't believe me.  I haven't been 
on #debian in a couple weeks now.

> I couldn't care less about your support! I wasn't asking about support 
> yesterday! I was adressing the spirit on the channel!

Which I don't see as being much different from any other channel on 
freenode.  People in any channel *will* get annoyed when you start 
pushing the hot buttons no matter what channel you go into, and whether 
or not you chose to ignore such issues.

> Nobody has apointed you as head of support. If you chose to give 
> people help on freenode you must do so in accordance with the freenode 
> rules and spirit. They clearly state to treat people nice and not to 
> become personal - but I guess you have read those rules!?   

You're the only one making it personal.  You're expecting a level of 
service that you're just not going to get out of mailing lists or 
freenode in general.

Speaking of making it personal, this is *NOT* a personal discussion, and 
does *NOT* belong in personal email.  Reply to the list or don't reply.  
That's in this mailing list's rules on lists.debian.org.

> Someone would say: well if you followed the rules why did you get 
> banned? I got banned because one of the clique was the admin that 
> night.  
> The issue is going to be adressed.

It was addressed:  You were being an obnoxious jerk to the channel 
regulars in a fashion warned against in the #debian FAQ.  You chose to 
ignore such warning.  Nobody on Freenode (or any other network, for 
that matter) tolerates ignorance of the appropriate channel FAQ.  If 
you want to play curmudgeon, do your homework.  

Frankly, that's what this whole thread is about.  You don't want to do 
your homework for anything and are angry that nobody else will do it 
for you.  This isn't about cliques or personal issues or anything like 
that; if it had been anybody else, making the same mistakes, they would 
have gotten the same reception.

That being said: Why is this so hard to grasp?  Until you can comply 
with this list's rules on conduct, this conversation is over.

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Re: best IRC client for Debian

Ben Bettin wrote:
I think I've always found Xchat to be the best GUI, especially in
terms of it's similarity to mIRC.  I'd be curious to see what
everyone's favorite CLI client is.  I've heard a few mentions of irssi
in the past, but I've never tried it.
Ben
On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 14:02:21 -0400, Shaikh Quader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 

What is the best IRC client for Debian?
In particular, I am looking for an IRC Client which is functionally similar
to mIRC.
   

I'm partial to GAIM myself.  It's another multiprotocol chat client 
(IRC, YIM, AIM, MSN-Messenger, and more).  Only problem I'm having with 
it is an inability to figure out how to increase the font size, 
especially for the tool bar.  I'm running at 1280x1024, and the fonts 
are so small, they can cause headaches.

For text mode, BitchX seems to be a pretty popular IRC client.

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Re: Fresh Sarge Install - 2.6.8 Kernel Panic

2004-12-20 Thread technoMyst

Roby wrote:
Kent West wrote:
 

Ryan Foley wrote:
   

Hey,
I'm new to this mailing list. I'm pretty familiar with linux
administration but I'm fairly new to using it as a workstation. I'm
hoping to solve a problem that I've run into several times with sarge,
usually causing me to fallback on pre-compiled kernel images from apt.
I have a fresh sarge installation on a Dell Inspiron 8500 laptop. I
have everything configured as well as I can with the kernel image, so
I've compiled a 2.6.8 kernel. However, booting into the new kernel
gives me the following panic:
VFS: Cannot open root device "hda2" or unknown-block(0,0)
Please append a correct "root=" boot option
Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)
I have WinXP on hda1 with the Debian installation on a single
partition, hda2. Here's the config from my menu.list:
title   Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.820041219
root(hd0,1)
kernel  /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.820041219 root=/dev/hda2 ro vga=791
savedefault
boot

 

If it's a stock 2.6.x kernel, I believe it uses initrd. I'm not familiar
with grub, but lilo needs to be informed of the initrd file. grub
probably does also; I'd try adding "initrd=/initrd.img" to the
parameters on the kernel line.
   

Agreed.  I think you also need two additional parameters in the kernel line:
ramdisk_size=10  init=/etc/init
... so it was with my menu.lst modifications to boot Knoppix on hard drive.
Roby

 

There is no initrd.img file for my current kernel in /boot. I tried 
making a new one with "mkinitrd -k -o /boot/initrd.img -r /dev/hda2" but 
booting with it caused the following error to repeat and eventially give 
a kernel panic:

modprobe: FATAL: Could not load /lib/modules/2.6.820041219/modules.dep: 
No such file or directory

-Ryan
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make-kpkg modules_image

2004-12-20 Thread Matt Zagrabelny

hello,

trying to get the hostap modules working:

# aptitude install hostap-source

$ make-kpkg --append-to-version=.20041220.0 kernel_image modules_image

# dpkg -i /usr/src/kernel-image2.6.9.20041220.0_10.00.Custom_i386.deb
# dpkg -i /usr/src/hostap-modules-2.6.9.20041220.0_0.2.5-1
+10.00.Custom_i386.deb

everything is fine.
reboot.

# modprobe hostap
FATAL: Module hostap not found.

# insmod /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/hostap.ko

works.

i would like to get the modprobe of that module to work.

any tips, hints, or recommendations?

thanks,

matt zagrabelny


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Re: hangup during boot (kernel 2.4.27)

James Vahn wrote:
Michiel wrote:
 

Everything boots fine, but I wanted to recompile a customized kernel,
because of a new video driver that I want to install, but I cannot get
it to boot with my customized kernel.
   

Look in /boot/grub/menu.lst and see if you are telling grub to use
a non-existant initrd.img .. 

 

No my customized kernel does not load an initrd.img file. It is also not 
generated during kernel compilation.
I am building it, using:
make-kpkg -rev Custom.1 --append-to-version "-20041218" kernel_image

and installing, using:
dpkg -i /usr/src/kernel-image-2.4.27-20041218_Custom.1_i386.deb
Then the menu.lst file is filled automatically with this kernel (without 
initrd line).

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Re: best IRC client for Debian

Peter Nuttall wrote:
> guy then it should be good for you. Kopete is in the style of a IM client, 
> and in fact supports all the common IM protocols, but if you are a power 
> irc users it isn't for you. 

Just this morning I was trying to get kopete to talk AIM and it led
me to an AOL registration page, which kept refusing my birthdate.
Methinks it is broken, although I'd like to refuse any more birthdays too..

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Re: Sarge and sound

Ted Parks wrote:
> I am trying to configure the sound card on a Toshiba Tecra 8000 using
> Alsa drivers. The Sarge kernel includes OSS drivers, I think.
> 
> I cannot get the snd-opl3sa2 driver to load, despite the fact that
> modinfo shows the driver is there.

I had the same trouble with an HP ze5607wm: ALSA in the default kernel.
Once I disabled it and went to OSS, I have sound. It took a custom
2.6.9 kernel to get ACPI, sound, DMA and DRI all working together.

Yes! DRI on the laptop, finally. Foobillard! :-)

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discover seems to have changed my NICs

2004-12-20 Thread H. S.

Yesterday, due to some weird reason, my network went down yesterday. 
When I rebooted into Fedora to see if it worked, it did. Then I rebooted 
into 2.4.26 kernel in Debian. That worked too. Then I tried again in 
2.6.9 and 2.6.7 kernels in Debian and networking failed again.

This morning I ran pppoeconf again (in Debain) and noticed with surprise 
that it was detecting my pppoe connection on the different NIC. I have 
two NICs, eth0 and eth1. Once connects to the ADSL modem and the other 
to my LAN switch for masquarading.

I then realized that I had updated discover just recently. Maybe that 
detected the NICs in a different way and made eth0 as eth1 and vice versa.

The solution was to interchange the configuration of eth1 and eth0 in 
Debian and then my networking worked perfectly.

BTW, in Fedora, the detection was opposite to that Debian till yesterday 
(eth1 in Debian was eth0 in Fedora and eth0 was eth1). Now eth0 is same 
as the one in Fedora.

Has anyone else experienced something like this recently? And how come 
the detection in Debian did not need to be changed when I ran 2.4.26 kernel?

->HS
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Re: hangup during boot (kernel 2.4.27)

Michiel wrote:
> Everything boots fine, but I wanted to recompile a customized kernel,
> because of a new video driver that I want to install, but I cannot get
> it to boot with my customized kernel.

Look in /boot/grub/menu.lst and see if you are telling grub to use
a non-existant initrd.img .. 


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Re: Novice Questions

2004-12-20 Thread Kent West

Joseph Schumacher wrote:
Hope you do not mind an inquiry from a Linux novice.

Not at all. We do usually expect you to do your homework first, which 
you indicate you've done further down, when you mention googling. Good 
for you.

I do not know much about Linux but I do know that I'm tired of 
Microsoft and I write to seek advice as to whether or not my system is 
suitable for Linux.

Be aware, Linux is not a drop-in replacement for Microsoft, any more 
than Macintosh would be. They're different operating systems, that 
function in different ways, and have different strengths/weaknesses, 
although you can pretty much accomplish what you want to accomplish on 
any of these OSes.

It is a Dell Dimension 2400 bought about a year ago. Pentium IV, 
2.2GHz, 1GB memory, 6 USB 2.0 ports, and 3 bootable devices (1.44MB 
Floppy/CD-RW Unit/Hard Disk ”C”). A home system, it has no network 
connections and uses a dial-up telephone connection.

I can't speak directly to the compatibility of this hardware, but I 
doubt you'll have any real problems with it for a basic text-mode based 
Debian box. You might have some issues with the graphics system in X 
(the "Windows" GUI), or with the sound system, or with the NIC (if you 
had a LAN, which you say you don't). You will almost certainly have 
problems with the modem, if it's an internal PCI modem. If it's an 
external serial (not USB) modem, you will almost certainly have no 
problems with the modem.

Knoppix is a quick and easy test for how compatible the hardware is with 
Debian. If it works with Knoppix, it'll work with Debian (although it 
might take some work in some cases). If it doesn't work with Knoppix, it 
still might work with Debian, but it might again take some work.

Next step was building a resource base for both Linux and Windows so I 
installed 2 internal 160GB drives and formatted them as single 
partitions in FAT32.

I assume you're allocating one of these 160GB drives to Debian? It 
should work just fine (although you'll need to get rid of the FAT32 
partition, which you'll be able to do during the Debian installation 
process).

For backup purposes, I picked up 2, self-powered, external drive 
housings which can link standard EIDE drives to the system via USB 
2.0. These were fitted with 200GB drives and rotating the units will 
provide an on-going solution for backups.

I've never used an external USB drive with Linux, but I suspect these 
will work just fine.

As to Linux, a second carrier for the removable “C” drive has been 
loaded with a new 120GB drive and it is ready to be formatted to get 
started.

Oh, so you're going to use a removable 120 for Linux instead of the 160 
mentioned above. No problem (probably). Unless you're going to store a 
lot of movies or large files or host a lot of email for a lot of users, 
etc, 120GB is way more than comfortable. Way more.

1) The system uses a wireless, RF, keyboard and mouse with both 
communicating through a single receiver module that plugs into a USB 
2.0 port. I have already had to add a second PS/2 mouse since some 
applications could not detect the wireless model so I wonder if Linux 
will be able to run with such hardware.

If the hardware "sees" the keyboard and mouse as standard ps/2 or USB 
devices, Debian should see them likewise. I suspect you'll have little 
trouble with these devices, but I offer no guarantees. Try it with 
Knoppix and see how it handles these units.

2) Another potential problem may result from the system not having a 
separate card to drive the display, it instead uses an Intel chipset 
dedicated to the function on the motherboard. Would this present a 
problem?

If Knoppix can bring up a nice GUI in 1024x768 or better, you can do the 
same with Debian, probably without too much hassle (but you'll want to 
install Sarge (testing) or Sid (unstable) rather than Woody (stable) in 
order to get a new enough version of X to handle this chipset). The 
problem (if there is one) is not with having integrated video; it's with 
the particular chipset which is integrated. Regardless, I can fairly 
well guarantee that text-mode will work just fine.

3) Next question involves allocation of the Linux “C” drive. Being new 
to Linux, I hear of EXT2, EXT3, swap files, etc., and have flashbacks 
of spending many hours over past years attempting to master MS-DOS 
setups only to still have Windows continue giving me “blue screens” on 
a regular basis. With 320GB of shared resources aboard the system and 
120GB exclusively available to Linux on it's dedicated “C” drive, can 
you recommend how I might format and/or partition the 120GB drive to 
provide the best environment for Debian?
This is a religious question, and has an infinite amount of answers. The 
easy way would be to create one large partition (perhaps formatted as 
EXT3) of about 119GB and a swap partition of the remaining 1GB, and put 
all of Debian on the large 199GB partition. However, I prefer multiple 
partitions, and what

Re: What files in /etc must be writable?

2004-12-20 Thread Alvin Oga

On Mon, 20 Dec 2004, William Ballard wrote:

> However, the liveCD had errors during boot, because some files 
> apparently have to be writeable during boot.  

what error messages ?? it tells you what it can't write to

> For example, I guess, /etc/mtab.

yup
and your hostname, ip# and gateway info ...

>  Does /etc/fstab have to be writeable?

nope

> What other files  need to be writeable?

most everything under /var/log /var/spool /var/run /var/tmp

lots of whacky stuff to turn off that uses /proc, /tmp

.. gazillion ittty-bitty files ...

just look at knoppix as what is symlink to memory
or turn off that feature or any other cdrom based distro that works
properly .. ( most don't .. ie.. i want a cd distro that allows 
the cd to be popped out so that other apps can be loaded )

> I want to conserve every bit of space in the Ram disk possible.

memory is cheap compared to file-by-file analysis of what needs
to be writeable or not is gonna take more $$$ and time than
the memory

and if things are meant to be kept small .. 

boot off 8MB compact flash or floppy and have everything
running on it or in (precious) memory 

have fun
alvin

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Re: /etc/apt/preferences problem - might cause problems when Sarge goes stable!

2004-12-20 Thread Osamu Aoki

On Fri, Dec 17, 2004 at 03:21:47PM +, Ben Bettin wrote:
> I recently started using the /etc/apt/preferences file to get
> Firestarter from unstable into my testing install of Sarge.  My file
> follows:
> 
> --
> Package: *
> Pin: release a=testing
> Pin-Priority: 900
> 
> Package: firestarter
> Pin: release a=unstable
> Pin-Priority: 1100
> 
> Package: *
> Pin: release o=Debian
> Pin-Priority: -10
> --

Why mix o and a ?

> A few moments ago I updated my sources.list in preparation for Sarge
> going to stable.  I changed all references to 'testing' to 'sarge'.  I
> did this because I do NOT want to automatically upgrade to the new
> testing right away, I'll probably stick with Sarge for a few months
> after he goes stable.  I had to leave the nerim entry as testing and
> unstable because he doesn't appear to support the release names.  My
> sources.list follows:
> 
> --
> deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian sarge main contrib non-free
> deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US sarge/non-US main contrib non-free
> deb http://security.debian.org/ sarge/updates main contrib non-free
> 
> deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ testing main
> 
> deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian sid main contrib non-free
> deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US sid/non-US main contrib non-free
> 
> deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable main
> --
> 
> After starting up aptitude I had to update my cache, but after that
> everything looked fine.  So I edited my /etc/apt/preferences and
> changed 'testing' to 'sarge' and 'unstable' to 'sid'.  When I started
> up aptitude and updated, things weren't right.  

Where in man page say you can use release codename instead of archive
name.

| APT_PREFERENCES(5)  APT_PREFERENCES(5)
| 
| 
|the Archive: line
|   names  the  archive  to  which all the packages in the directory
|   tree belong. For example, the line "Archive:  stable"  specifies
|   that  all of the packages in the directory tree below the parent
|   of the Release file are in a  stable  archive.  Specifying  this
|   value in the APT preferences file would require the line:
| 
| 
|   Pin: release a=stable
| 
| 
| 
|All of the Packages and Release files retrieved from  locations  listed
|in   the   sources.list(5)   file   are   stored   in   the   directory
|/var/lib/apt/lists,  or   in   the   file   named   by   the   variable
|Dir::State::Lists   in   the  apt.conf  file.  For  example,  the  file
|debian.lcs.mit.edu_debian_dists_unstable_contrib_binary-i386_Release
|contains  the  Release  file retrieved from the site debian.lcs.mit.edu
|for binary-i386 architecture files from the contrib  component  of  the
|unstable distribution.

> 
> The conclusion I came to is that /etc/apt/preferences doesn't support
> the release specific names (woody, sarge, sid, etc) and only the
> generic names (stable, testing, and unstable).  So I changed the
> entries in my preferences back to testing and unstable as listed
> above.

Good.

> It seems to me that the discrepency between /etc/apt/sources.list and

There you are pointing to directory name.  These directory name has also
symlink.  So both archive name and release code name works for
/etc/apt/sources.list.

But Release file looks like (read one form /var/lib/apt/lists/*):

Archive: testing
Component: contrib
Origin: Debian
Label: Debian
Architecture: i386

So we must use real Archive name for /etc/apt/preferences 

> /etc/apt/preferences could cause some serious problems for people when
> Sarge goes stable, especially if they have mixed distros.  I don't
> have any automated updating, so I'll just have to remember to read the
> news before updating every day...that way I can alter the two files
> correctly before I update.  But for people that have scripts which
> automate the update process, they could get fubar'd.  Any thoughts?

So this is not the problem of having external package source but the way
you set up preferences.

Osamu

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Re: Sarge and sound

2004-12-20 Thread Midnight

On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 15:20:39 +
 "Pedro M (Morphix User)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I think we would create debian-sound list.

Now that is a brilliant idea.

Cheers
Midn


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Re: distro for novices

2004-12-20 Thread Osamu Aoki

Hi,

On Tue, Dec 14, 2004 at 12:56:03PM -0500, Matt Price wrote:
> Hi folks,
> 
> this is not a troll, really! I'm just looking for some advice.
> 
> I've been using Debian exclusively for about 2.5 years, and it's the
> only linux with which I really have any experience.  I teach in the
> history department at a Canadian university and have been asked to
> teach a somewhat unusual coursee next semester:  not history at all,
> but a kind of "technical self-sufficiency" not-for-credit
> community-based course in a local housing project.  Students will
> asssemble their own computers, install an operating system, and learn
> how to use it.  

I sounds interesting ...  how many hours does it take to do this class,
that is one major factor.

> The students will come from a pretty wide variety of backgrounds; many
> will be refugees and refugee claimants, others are new immigrants to
> Canada.  In other courses offered in this program, a high percentage
> of students have been (HIGHLY motivated) middle-aged women, and that
> will probably be the case with this one again.

You seem to have many well intended objectives but you need to assess
people attending class:
 * their expectation of accomplishment
 * theie readyness
 * how much time you spend foe explanation
 * in-depth vs. overview approach and student expectation on this
   direction issue.

> I'm very excited about the course but a little worried about which
> distro to use in the class.  As I said, am only really familiar with
> Debian and quite love it; but I do all my sysad work on the command
> line and use the menu system very little, so I'm not sure my
> experience is especially relevant.  I'm worried
> that's not the best approach for this class.  So, I guess I want to
> ask, which distros would folks recommend for the following situation:
> 
> - novice computer users, who probably know how to use a web browser,
> an email client, and a mouse on windows, but little else;

For this, I think supported commercial distribution.

> - relatively slow hardware (hopefully not ancienct, but in any case
> not cutting edge);

(If you are thinking 486, then sarge is practically out.)

> I'm not looking for beauty or even speed, really; I *am* looking for
> out-of-the-box usability, compatibility with both old and new hardware
> (especially plugin devices like mp3 players, which are likely used by
> the kids of some students), and accessability.  
> 
> I had a bit of a wake up call this week when I tried out Ubuntu.  I
> know it's based on Debian, and uses gnome, which really isn't so far
> from my desktop, xfce.  But I found it surprisingly confusing to use;
> having everything hidden behind the gui layer seems quite foreign to
> me now.  

I think if you want user experience through GUI as objective, this kind
of situation happen with any distro.

If you had to do something manually under such environment, distro was
not mature.

> so I really don't want to give folks a distro in which the
> ocnf files need constant tweaking, as I've found they sometimes do
> in Debian (at least in Sid, which I guess is an unfair comparison).  
> 
> anyway, thanks as always,

I do not have easy answer.

If the system has enough memory, I suggest installing live CD based
system.  There user have enough initial experience. (Knoppix etc.) 
That is good start.

Then tell people to install woody, ubunts, mandrake, ...  hoppefuly the
version supported by the vender.

I have to admit that standard debian is not yet ready to be called easy
to use by the non-technical minds.  I have problem even as a DD.

OA


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Re: Need help with XF86 config

Andrew Konosky wrote:
> After I got the base system installed, I selected "Desktop Environment" 
> and apt installed both KDE and Gnome, Gnome as default.

I would like to see "KDE Desktop" and "GNOME Desktop", and not have
both installed.

> I switched it over to KDE and KDM, but the installer didn't set up my
> graphical config right.

yes, had a similar problem here. But as the man said, 
  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86

> My Radeon 8500 graphics card and my Philips 107P monitor are detected 
> right, and I chose the resolutions I wanted to use during the config, 
> but both KDE and gnome defaulted to 800x600 @ 75Hz, and no higher 
> resolutions were available.

Available where?  Look in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 towards the end:

SubSection "Display"
Depth   16
Modes   "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"

What do you see in yours? You can edit this file and change the order, but
heed the notice at the top of it about customizing the file. Might take a
look at /var/log/XFree86.0.log to see what ails it...

(II) R128(0): Not using default mode "640x350" (vrefresh out of range)
(II) R128(0): Not using default mode "320x175" (vrefresh out of range)
(II) R128(0): Not using default mode "640x400" (vrefresh out of range)
...etc..

> I tried removing all other resolutions than the 1280x1024 which I want to
> use, but I still get 800x600 and 1280x1024 is not even an option. I have
> all these other low resolutions available, but where are they coming from
> and what command do I run to reconfigure the graphics setup?

Sometimes you have to bump the VertRefresh and/or HorizSync up a bit. 

Section "Monitor"
Identifier  "Generic Monitor"
HorizSync   28-49
VertRefresh 43-72
Option  "DPMS"
Gamma   3.10  3.10  3.10  # created by KGamma

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Re: best IRC client for Debian

2004-12-20 Thread Peter Nuttall

 On Monday 20 Dec 2004 18:02, Shaikh Quader wrote:
> What is the best IRC client for Debian?
> In particular, I am looking for an IRC Client which is functionally
> similar to mIRC.
>
> Thanks,
> Shaikh

Hi,

I have used four over the last couple of months, kopete, konversation, 
x-chat and irssi. If you are looking for a GUI client then irssi isn't for 
you. If you are using gnome or lots of gtk apps then x-chat will blend in 
well. konversation is similar to x-chat but is for kde, so if you are a kde 
guy then it should be good for you. Kopete is in the style of a IM client, 
and in fact supports all the common IM protocols, but if you are a power 
irc users it isn't for you. 

Pete

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Why do I have to set PKG_CONFIG_PATH & LD_LIBRARY_PATH to compile, link, and run my app??

2004-12-20 Thread Ibrahim Mubarak

Hi,

I am currently developing an app that uses two libraries (ClanLib & MySQL++). I 
installed clanlib
through configure, make, make install as the clanlib package for debian is way 
too old. Clanlib is
installed in /usr/local/lib, /usr/local/include, and /usr/local/lib/pkgconfig. 
If I don't set the path variables (PKG_CONFIG_PATH & LD_LIBRARY_PATH) to the 
paths mentioned, I
get errors about header and library files (.pc, .so.0) not found. 
PKG_CONFIG_PATH comes in for
both compilation and linkage. LD_LIBRARY_PATH comes in when I actually run my 
app.
My question is why is pkg-config not configured to check in /usr/local/lib? I 
thought it was by
default.
I tried to search the web on how my app searches for shared libraries, but 
couldn't find anything
helpful. Can you show me some docs that talk about that?

I know I am a newbie when it comes to Linux (less than a year using it 
extensively). So excuse my
lack of knowledge about this. I did try to check manuals, google, etc.. but I 
got not answer to my
questions.

Thanks,
ib

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Re: Fresh Sarge Install - 2.6.8 Kernel Panic

2004-12-20 Thread Roby

Kent West wrote:

> Ryan Foley wrote:
> 
>>Hey,
>>
>>I'm new to this mailing list. I'm pretty familiar with linux
>>administration but I'm fairly new to using it as a workstation. I'm
>>hoping to solve a problem that I've run into several times with sarge,
>>usually causing me to fallback on pre-compiled kernel images from apt.
>>
>>I have a fresh sarge installation on a Dell Inspiron 8500 laptop. I
>>have everything configured as well as I can with the kernel image, so
>>I've compiled a 2.6.8 kernel. However, booting into the new kernel
>>gives me the following panic:
>>
>>VFS: Cannot open root device "hda2" or unknown-block(0,0)
>>Please append a correct "root=" boot option
>>Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)
>>
>>I have WinXP on hda1 with the Debian installation on a single
>>partition, hda2. Here's the config from my menu.list:
>>
>>title   Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.820041219
>>root(hd0,1)
>>kernel  /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.820041219 root=/dev/hda2 ro vga=791
>>savedefault
>>boot
>>
>>
>>  
>>
> If it's a stock 2.6.x kernel, I believe it uses initrd. I'm not familiar
> with grub, but lilo needs to be informed of the initrd file. grub
> probably does also; I'd try adding "initrd=/initrd.img" to the
> parameters on the kernel line.
> 

Agreed.  I think you also need two additional parameters in the kernel line:

 ramdisk_size=10  init=/etc/init

... so it was with my menu.lst modifications to boot Knoppix on hard drive.

Roby



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Re: The Debian IRC channel

2004-12-20 Thread Steve Lamb

Kim wrote:
Saying that I soon experienced a lot of rudeness and after only posting 
I think about 5 messages in total I got banned. And since I sit on a wan 
which has only one public IP the entire wan is actually banned.
aptitude -t unstable install tor
What do you think?
But ya didn't hear that from me.  ;)
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hangup during boot (kernel 2.4.27)

Hello,
I've installed debian Sarge on my system successfully, using the iso
image sarge-i386-netinst.iso
Everything boots fine, but I wanted to recompile a customized kernel,
because of a new video driver that I want to install, but I cannot get
it to boot with my customized kernel.
Debian is installed on an ext3 filesystem on the first partition of my
second harddrive (hdb1). So I enabled all ext3 FS options in the
Filesystem section of the kernel configuration (not as modules, but
embedded in the kernel).
The kernel itself boots fine (using Grub), it also says that it mounts
the root device, but it hangs after the message: "INIT: version 2.86
booting"
The only thing I can do is reboot again and startup with the original
kernel.
I have no idea why this happens, because I see no error messages from
the kernel. Also no error messages are written to /var/log/kern.log or
/var/log/messages.
I already added an echo line in the /etc/init/d/rcS script, but it is
never printed.
So I have the feeling that 'init' is somehow unable to read the script
files.
Is it possible to pass a debug/verbose option to 'init' so that it tells
me where it hangs?
Does anyone have other suggestion of a way to track down this problem?
Thanks,
Michiel
PS My system is an AMD Athlon 64 3200+ with a Asus K8V SE motherboard.
Harddisk is: Western Digital 80GB
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Re: What files in /etc must be writable?

2004-12-20 Thread Steve Lamb

Sam Watkins wrote:
You can find out which /etc files are touched during boot by taking a
look at the `date`, then booting, then typing:

	ls -ltc /etc | less
Wouldn't this be better?
find /etc -mmin -5 | less
ls -ltc presumes all the modified files are in the top level of etc. 
Find  with a -mmin argument will find any files modified even in subdirectories.

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hangup during boot (kernel 2.4.27)

Hello,
I've installed debian Sarge on my system successfully, using the iso
image sarge-i386-netinst.iso
Everything boots fine, but I wanted to recompile a customized kernel,
because of a new video driver that I want to install, but I cannot get
it to boot with my customized kernel.
Debian is installed on an ext3 filesystem on the first partition of my
second harddrive (hdb1). So I enabled all ext3 FS options in the
Filesystem section of the kernel configuration (not as modules, but
embedded in the kernel).
The kernel itself boots fine (using Grub), it also says that it mounts
the root device, but it hangs after the message: "INIT: version 2.86
booting"
The only thing I can do is reboot again and startup with the original
kernel.
I have no idea why this happens, because I see no error messages from
the kernel. Also no error messages are written to /var/log/kern.log or
/var/log/messages.
I already added an echo line in the /etc/init/d/rcS script, but it is
never printed.
So I have the feeling that 'init' is somehow unable to read the script
files.
Is it possible to pass a debug/verbose option to 'init' so that it tells
me where it hangs?
Does anyone have other suggestion of a way to track down this problem?
Thanks,
Michiel
PS My system is an AMD Athlon 64 3200+ with a Asus K8V SE motherboard.
Harddisk is: Western Digital 80GB




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Re: OT: Re: Hardware hassles: Linux vs. Windows

2004-12-20 Thread Steve Lamb

Karsten M. Self wrote:
   # aptitude install mencal
...now if we can just get Bill and Steve's start days
According to my wife I don't have a stop day.  :P
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Re: Gnome Volume Control, not the panel applet

2004-12-20 Thread Andrea Vettorello

On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 17:21:59 +, Cliff Flood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi, running Unstable.
> 
> When I use bound keys to modify my volume up or down I see the volume
> bar move up and down but there is no change to the volume of the audio I
> hear, probably because the volume on the wrong channel is being changed.
> Using the volume control panel applet I've selected "Headphone" and that
> works when I use the slider.
> 
> How can I specify the channel that the system wide applet should change?
> 

Try using the applet "Preferences" to choose what channel to control.


Andrea


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Re: No CD sound

2004-12-20 Thread Andrea Vettorello

On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 11:14:43 -0600, Ted Parks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Running Sarge, my Toshiba Tecra 8000 laptop loads the proper sound
> module, snd-OPL3SA2. But XMMS and GNOME-CD will only occasionally play
> the sound from an audio-CD, even though they read the titles from the
> CD tracks.
> 
> What's the problem?
> 
> Somebody recommended that I upgrade the kernel to 2.6. Would this help?
> 

You can try, if you have a net access is trivial to install a Debian
kernel image, but i suspect is only a misconfiguration of your sound
card mixer. Are you using ALSA or OSS?


Andrea


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Re: Novice Questions

2004-12-20 Thread Paul E Condon

On Mon, Dec 20, 2004 at 01:39:44PM -0500, Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote:
> > 
> > 4) Lastly, I hope you will not mind me mentioning Knoppix but I have seen
> > impressive screen shots of it while there are very few available for Debian.
> > Knoppix however appears to be merely an introductory vehicle for Linux so my
> > thinking is that I may as well skip it and instead go straight to the full
> > capabilities of Debian even though it will likely involve considerable
> > research before I can fully utilize it. Any thoughts for a novice about to
> > venture into Debian? 
> 
> Yes. I would suggest to directly install Debian without bothering
> about knoppix. Knoppix is useful for seeing if a particular works with
> linux or not. Knoppix has very good hardware detection capabilities.
> But for long term usage, debian is the way to go.
> 

Just an anecdote: On my most recent installation of Debian on hardware
with which I was unfamiliar, I attempted to use Knoppix to check out
the hardware. It did not install successfully, but I went on to try
NetInstall anyway and NetInstall worked. 

It turns out it was kind of a pyrrhic victory because there was only
30 MB of RAM on the box and the intended use was User Desktop with
GUI. But NetInstall did work where Knoppix did not.

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Re: Novice Questions

2004-12-20 Thread Clive Menzies

On (20/12/04 13:39), Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote:
> > 
> > 4) Lastly, I hope you will not mind me mentioning Knoppix but I have seen
> > impressive screen shots of it while there are very few available for Debian.
> > Knoppix however appears to be merely an introductory vehicle for Linux so my
> > thinking is that I may as well skip it and instead go straight to the full
> > capabilities of Debian even though it will likely involve considerable
> > research before I can fully utilize it. Any thoughts for a novice about to
> > venture into Debian? 
> 
> Yes. I would suggest to directly install Debian without bothering
> about knoppix. Knoppix is useful for seeing if a particular works with
> linux or not. Knoppix has very good hardware detection capabilities.
> But for long term usage, debian is the way to go.
> 
> You might be aware of this already. But I will mention it anyway. The
> most easiest way to install debian is to download the net install
> image (aroung 150 mb) and install a base system using that. Then
> afterwards you can choose and install any additional packages at your
> will.
> 
> The net install images can be found at http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/
However, you may find the new "sarge" (currently testing - due to be the
next stable shortly) installer much quicker and easier; it should auto
discover much of your hardware:
http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/

For the differences between the various releases see:
http://www.debian.org/releases/

HTH

Clive

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Re: The Debian IRC channel

2004-12-20 Thread Paul Johnson

On Monday 20 December 2004 10:20 am, Peter Nuttall wrote:

> > 01:39 PerfDave> macon: But the people who are less than entirely
> > friendly are also the people who are most helpful 
and
> > knowlegeable. Which is why they get to be so snarky,
> > when confronted with comparative idiots all day and
> > getting no reward for volunteering their services.
> 
> he has a point

No kidding.  To put it in perspective for the non-career geeks:  Many 
folks involved in supporting Debian, myself included, do so 
professionally as well.  We do it all day.  So when we have a free 
moment, and we want to help people on our own time, we're going to help 
people who are trying to find the answer, not expecting us to hand it 
to them.  After all, we get paid to go through *all* the trouble of 
handholding *customers* at work.  On this list and on IRC, nobody 
writing in is a customer, so there isn't a need for customer service.

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Re: Novice Questions

2004-12-20 Thread Paul E Condon

On Mon, Dec 20, 2004 at 09:49:06AM -0800, Joseph Schumacher wrote:
> Hi Folks -
> 
> Hope you do not mind an inquiry from a Linux novice. I do not know much about 
> Linux but I do know that I'm tired of Microsoft and I write to seek advice as 
> to whether or not my system is suitable for Linux.
> 
> It is a Dell Dimension 2400 bought about a year ago. Pentium IV, 2.2GHz, 1GB 
> memory, 6 USB 2.0 ports, and 3 bootable devices (1.44MB Floppy/CD-RW 
> Unit/Hard Disk ?C?). A home system, it has no network connections and uses a 
> dial-up telephone connection.
> 
> As to hard disks -
> 
> I rewired the system into a somewhat different configuration. I made my boot 
> drive removable and the entire system simply becomes a resource for any 
> operating system plugged in as ?C?.
> 
> The system uses EIDE UDMA Mode 5 internally and it was delivered with Windows 
> XP on a 40GB drive formatted entirely in NTFS (the drive now being pluggable, 
> for Linux purposes it will be set aside and ignored).
> 
> Next step was building a resource base for both Linux and Windows so I 
> installed 2 internal 160GB drives and formatted them as single partitions in 
> FAT32.
> 
> For backup purposes, I picked up 2, self-powered, external drive housings 
> which can link standard EIDE drives to the system via USB 2.0. These were 
> fitted with 200GB drives and rotating the units will provide an on-going 
> solution for backups.
> 
> As to Linux, a second carrier for the removable ?C? drive has been loaded 
> with a new 120GB drive and it is ready to be formatted to get started.
> 
> A few questions arise and research on the web has found many contradictory 
> results, most apparently being ?best guesses? posted by users in various 
> forums, so I seek your advice regarding what may be potential problems:
> 
> 1) The system uses a wireless, RF, keyboard and mouse with both communicating 
> through a single receiver module that plugs into a USB 2.0 port. I have 
> already had to add a second PS/2 mouse since some applications could not 
> detect the wireless model so I wonder if Linux will be able to run with such 
> hardware.
> 
> 2) Another potential problem may result from the system not having a separate 
> card to drive the display, it instead uses an Intel chipset dedicated to the 
> function on the motherboard. Would this present a problem?
> 
> 3) Next question involves allocation of the Linux ?C? drive. Being new to 
> Linux, I hear of EXT2, EXT3, swap files, etc., and have flashbacks of 
> spending many hours over past years attempting to master MS-DOS setups only 
> to still have Windows continue giving me ?blue screens? on a regular basis. 
> With 320GB of shared resources aboard the system and 120GB exclusively 
> available to Linux on it's dedicated ?C? drive, can you recommend how I might 
> format and/or partition the 120GB drive to provide the best environment for 
> Debian?
> 
> 4) Lastly, I hope you will not mind me mentioning Knoppix but I have seen 
> impressive screen shots of it while there are very few available for Debian. 
> Knoppix however appears to be merely an introductory vehicle for Linux so my 
> thinking is that I may as well skip it and instead go straight to the full 
> capabilities of Debian even though it will likely involve considerable 
> research before I can fully utilize it. Any thoughts for a novice about to 
> venture into Debian?
> 
> I will sincerely appreciate any advice you might offer. Many thanks - Joe

This is a Debian list, and I am a Debian user, so I will concentrate
on answers where I assume that you are going to use a Debian
distribution for Linux.

1. Be warry of advise and HOWTOs that are target at users of other
distributions. The details are usually not right for Debian. Debian is
in many ways easier, and has fewer gotchas.

2. Get a copy of the latest Sarge NetInstall CD.

3. Do Sarge NetInstall in its basic mode on your hardware. Don't try
to install everything that you think you might need. Stop at what you
think is just enough to tell you whether or not you are succeeding at
the install process.

4. Poke around in you new Sarge installation and see what is there,
and what does not seem to be there.

5. Go to the Debian web site and read top level documentation. If
there is something in the docs that puzzles you, check it out on your
own installation. Maybe you are misreading, or are unused to the
writer's choise of words. I.e., learn how to read the documentation.

6. Based on what you learn from Debian docs., install Debian packages
for things that you actually want on your system. Necessary supporting
packages are automatically installed. Don't worry about forgetting
something that you really want. You can install it later. Don't 
worry about installing something, and then deciding you really don't
want it. You can remove it. If you 'purge' it all traces that you
had it installed are removed. (Well maybe not all. Log files may
contain entries from when it was there

Re: Need help with XF86 config

2004-12-20 Thread Kamaraju Kusumanchi

On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 12:35:47 -0600, Andrew Konosky
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> what command do I run to reconfigure
> the graphics setup?
>
dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86
might be what you are looking for.

You can also source /etc/bash_completion and then press tab after
entering the command midway.

#source /etc/bash_completion
#dpkg-reconfigure xserver-x

will give you
#dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86

enjoy
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