Re: Slow Firefox performance scrolling macslash.org
On May 29 2005, Marty wrote: > The FAQ on maclash.org says they use the slashdot.org blog software, called > slashcode, so that explains the page resemblence. I have emailed the site > maintainers to ask if they have made any changes to the code that could > account for the slowdown. Thanks for the interest in pursuing this "problem". I think that maybe the slowdowns may be due to iframes that macslash.org uses? I sincerely don't know. Let's see if others see the problem like we do. Thanks again, Rogério Brito. -- Rogério Brito : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Homepage of the algorithms package : http://algorithms.berlios.de Homepage on freshmeat: http://freshmeat.net/projects/algorithms/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Slow Firefox performance on P4 1.7 GHz 1 GB system
On May 29 2005, John Hasler wrote: > Rogério Brito writes: > > Don't you see the problem while scrolling www.macslash.org? > > I don't see it here either. Firefox 1.0.4-1, FVWM 2.4.15-1, XFree86 > 4.2.1-6, kernel 2.6.4, dual PIII-500 with 384M. Hummm, perhaps its the dual thing that is doing the magic here, since then both Mozilla/Firefox would run in one processor and X in another. Could you boot with only one CPU enabled and see if the problem appears? Thanks in advance, Rogério. -- Rogério Brito : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Homepage of the algorithms package : http://algorithms.berlios.de Homepage on freshmeat: http://freshmeat.net/projects/algorithms/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Slow Firefox performance on P4 1.7 GHz 1 GB system
On May 29 2005, Ionut Georgescu wrote: > On Sun, 2005-05-29 at 04:07 -0300, Rogério Brito wrote: > > Don't you see the problem while scrolling www.macslash.org? What about > > scrolling a page with many comments, in flat mode? And what about the same > > thing done in slashdot.org? Do you see any difference in speed? > > > > Where is your Firefox/Mozilla from? And which processor do you have? > > Well, I don't think it is the X only. Take Opera. On Linux it is much > faster than Firefox. My intention asking if other people see slow scrolling with www.macslash.org (as compared, to, say, www.slashdot.org) is to know if there is something intrinsic to that site that every Debian/Linux user sees. Only after we have stablished that is that we should be looking at how the alternatives (Konqueror, Opera, whatever) deal with that site. Again, the curious fact is that, under the very same machine, Firefox in Linux is way too slow to scroll that site (again, for example, when you have a page with many comments), while the same version of Firefox in Windows 2k is quite fast. Quite puzzling. Rogério Brito. -- Rogério Brito : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Homepage of the algorithms package : http://algorithms.berlios.de Homepage on freshmeat: http://freshmeat.net/projects/algorithms/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: webmin on debian testing.
Are you using Konqueror to log into Webmin? If so, don't. Use Firefox. I had the exact same issue. Konqueror would not let me log in as anybody but root, but Firefox was OK. I probably should report this as a bug. cheers, Robert On Monday 30 May 2005 08:47, John Fleming wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "Steven Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "debian-user list" > Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2005 6:27 PM > Subject: webmin on debian testing. > > > Hi, > > I have an issue with webmin, I can login as root to 127.0.0.1:1 with > the unix root password, but I cannot login to its external IP, > 130.195.20.24:1 > > I have set allow=130.195.0.0/255.255.0.0 127.0.0.1 in miniserv.conf > > But still no joy. > > I tried to enable ssl and generate new keys...no joy but 127.0.0.1 still > works (mozilla on 127.0.0.1 gives me warnings about new keys but > connects OK) > > > > What happens when you try to login? > > The default webmin install in Sarge/testing has https enabled by default. > When I first set mine up, I ssh'd in from home, then ran Lynx to get to the > allow IP page and set my external IP that way. Roundabout, newbie > approach, but it does work. Not sure what your exact problem is. > > Oh yeah - firewall OK? > > GL - John > > > What do I have to do to get webmin working on the external Debian box > that differs to every other Unix/Linux? > > Regards > > Thing -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
36 hours of freedom.
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Re: USB Pen Drive
--- Software Development Group <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I am putting a pen drive on the USB port and I can't see it. How do I link > to it? Mount it?... try to read the dmesg output and find out which device was allocated to it. On mine, the device is usually the /dev/sda1, so I can mount it with mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/pen. att, Rafael Sasaki -- Free Software: A matter of Liberty "As we enjoy great advantages from inventions of others, we should be glad of an opportunity to serve others by any invention of ours; and this we should do freely and generously." Benjamin Franklin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Frozen Sarge?
On Sun, May 29, 2005 at 04:13:45AM -0300, Rogério Brito wrote: > On May 29 2005, Jonathan Kaye wrote: > > Today I got 77 updates to installed packages and I update 4-5 times a > > week. > > I update my system every day and today the most conspicuous upgrade was > that X was upgraded with some security fixes. I don't think that the > developers are rushing to get the updates now. > > I do think that they were in the pipeline for settling things --- oh, and > the "release date" for sarge is the 30th of May, but I don't really know if > it will be possible to declare sarge the new stable tomorrow. According to debian-release@lists.debian.org it is 4/5 June. -- Chris. == -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The sound problem
I have Debian Sid. When I was using the 2.6.8 stock kernel, my onboard intel-8x0 soundcard worked well. But when I upgraded to 2.6.11, the rear channels and the sub stopped working at all. I'm using mplayer to redirect 2-channels stereo to subwoofer. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kernel-image-2.6.11-1-386 (2.6.11-5) detection problem with Zaurus (OpenZaurus)
Mary & Mark Pinderski & Johnso wrote: >Any ideas on what happened? I've checked the >kernel-image 2.6.11 doc files "changelog.Debian.gz" >and "Debian.src.changelog.gz", but I didn't see >anything related to the Zaurus or to usbnet. > > I just wanted to add that you should look at the changelog for kernel-source-2.6.11, http://packages.debian.org/unstable/devel/kernel-source-2.6.11 http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/k/kernel-source-2.6.11/kernel-source-2.6.11_2.6.11-5/changelog Also, my Zaurus seems to have crashed. This might be the cause of the USB problems with the host. - Adam -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cannot boot Debian Unstable after shutdown.
Adam Majer wrote: > > If this doesn't help, I would boot from the installation media and see > if the file system is still intact. > > - Adam > I had checked the file system and the hard disk status too before posting(using Knoppix). I didn't see anything wrong and only then posted as it seemed something beyond my knowledge. It seems to be working now, though I still can't make out what caused the problem. /KS -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kernel-image-2.6.11-1-386 (2.6.11-5) detection problem with Zaurus (OpenZaurus)
Mary & Mark Pinderski & Johnso wrote: >I ran dmesg to a file, plugged in the Zaurus, then ran >dmesg again. This is what diff showed (without the "<" >">" characters). ># dmesg >usb 4-1.1: new full speed USB device using ehci_hcd >and address 3 >usb 4-1.1: khubd timed out on ep0in >usb 4-1.1: device not accepting address 3, error -32 >usb 4-1.1: new full speed USB device using ehci_hcd >and address 4 >usb 4-1.1: device descriptor read/64, error -32 >usb 4-1.1: device descriptor read/64, error -32 > > I can verify this, usb 3-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 3 usb 3-2: device descriptor read/64, error -32 usb 3-2: device descriptor read/64, error -32 usb 3-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 4 usb 3-2: device descriptor read/64, error -32 usb 3-2: device descriptor read/64, error -32 I'll file a bug report against the kernel-source-2.6.11 - Adam -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cannot boot Debian Unstable after shutdown.
Carl Fink wrote: >On Sun, May 29, 2005 at 09:19:28PM -0400, KS wrote: > > > >>And the last = sign keeps on blinking, nothing happens. The rescue disk >>also gave similar results! >> >> > >Bootloaders need to know the physical location of the kernel. If it moved >and you didn't rerun whatever Grub uses to update the bootloader (I only >know Lilo), you'd get something much like that. > > You don't do this for grub. Grub reads the kernel from the file system. It knows about ext2/ext3, xfs, etc.. From the messages, it seems that the kernel and initrd are loaded. It just doesn't boot. This can happen if the kernel image is corrupted. What I would do is remove the save default option. I would also type in the boot commands by hand on the command line. That is, root(hd1,0) kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.11-1-686 root=/dev/hdb7 single initrd /initrd.img-2.6.11-1-686 boot Maybe menu.lst got corrupted or something. What is weird is that the root seems to be /dev/hdb1, but the root partition is /dev/hdb7... I thought the days of a /boot partition were long gone. If this doesn't help, I would boot from the installation media and see if the file system is still intact. - Adam -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cannot boot Debian Unstable after shutdown.
Carl Fink wrote: > On Sun, May 29, 2005 at 09:19:28PM -0400, KS wrote: > > >>And the last = sign keeps on blinking, nothing happens. The rescue disk >>also gave similar results! > > > Bootloaders need to know the physical location of the kernel. If it moved > and you didn't rerun whatever Grub uses to update the bootloader (I only > know Lilo), you'd get something much like that. > > Boot off a LiveCD of some kind (Knoppix, Gnoppix, whatever) and rerun Grub's > "tell me where the kernel is" program. In Lilo you'd just edit a config > file and run /sbin/lilo. Thanks for all the info. The system is back running as normal. Everything seemed to be fine when I booted with Knoppix and checked the links and kernels installed. After checking while in Knoppix, I tried booting in Debian 2.6.11-1-686 by just removing the vga=0x31B option in the kernel line. Booting went on as normal. The next time I rebooted in the same kernel without editing vga=0x31B option and it booted fine again. It still eludes me what actually went wrong. But the system seems to boot fine now after 3 tries in 2 different kernels. Thanks, /KS -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
sarge install grub problem
Have a buddy that just called. He's having trouble getting debian testing installed. On first reboot, He gets no grub screen at all, the system simply reboots. As I recall, he has a epox board with onboard raid and the hard drive is hooked to the raid port. (He's a combo cd and a regular cd-rom hooked to the ide ports.) Ideas? BTW, I suggested putting the drive on the regular ide port, but he'd like to keep both cd's on separate ide ports... He's hard headed. -- Highest Regards, Rodney Richison RCR Computing http://www.rcrnet.net 118 N. Broadway Cleveland, OK 74020 918-358- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Making LiveCDs
Hello, One example of livecd based on debian is the ubuntu one. You can get more info about it at: https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/LiveCDCustomizationHowTo I know. Ubuntu isn't debian. But you can take a look in order to learn more about it. Relative to the error you are getting on the kernel, please continue reading.. On 5/29/05, Matthew T. Atkinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > $ mkisofs -b lib/grub/i386-pc/stage2_eltorito -no-emul-boot > -boot-load-size 1 -boot-info-table -pad -R -o live.iso live Seems that you need to use more magic here. You can read some useful instructions: http://wiki.osuosl.org/display/LNX/Making+a+Custom+Boot+CD+for+Debian I hope all this could help you. G'luck. Mauro
Re: Cannot boot Debian Unstable after shutdown.
On Sun, May 29, 2005 at 09:19:28PM -0400, KS wrote: > And the last = sign keeps on blinking, nothing happens. The rescue disk > also gave similar results! Bootloaders need to know the physical location of the kernel. If it moved and you didn't rerun whatever Grub uses to update the bootloader (I only know Lilo), you'd get something much like that. Boot off a LiveCD of some kind (Knoppix, Gnoppix, whatever) and rerun Grub's "tell me where the kernel is" program. In Lilo you'd just edit a config file and run /sbin/lilo. -- Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you attempt to fix something that isn't broken, it will be. -Bruce Tognazzini -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
HD-3000 - No /dev/dvb ?
Hello, I'm running Debian Sid. I'm trying to use my HD-3000 with 2.6.12-rc5-git4. I've compiled and booted the kernel without a problem. Modules dvb_core, dvb_p11 & or51132 all loaded successfully, but despite having an up to date udev package installed and running I don't have a /dev/dvb. I've tried restarting udev but there is still no /dev/dvb. Shouldn't the stock udev package create these device files? Thanks, Patrick.
Re: Cannot boot Debian Unstable after shutdown.
KS wrote: On Sun, 29 May 2005 18:40:54 -0400, "KS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: It doesn't even start the kernel loading stage. It is as if Grub is there, but no Linux installation! I feel a bit handicapped as I can't even copy the text that I see after I hit [Enter] to boot from Grub. Below is what the screen shows if I try to boot into any kernel (even in recovery mode): -- Booting `Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.11-1-686 (recovery mode)' root(hd1,0) Filesystem type is ext2fs, partition type 0x83 kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.11-1-686 root=/dev/hdb7 ro single [Linux-bzimage, setup=0x1600, size=0x12fac0] initrd /initrd.img-2.6.11-1-686 [Linux-initrd @ 0xfab5000, 0x47b000 bytes] save default boot = That doesn't look familiar to me, so it must be grub. Hopefully somebody who knows grub can help. --- And the last = sign keeps on blinking, nothing happens. The rescue disk also gave similar results! I was referring to the generic Debian install floppies which double as rescue disks, since they can either run standalone out of a ram drive or else boot directly into your root partition. (I would try the later first, by typing "linux root=/dev/hdb7" at the lilo "boot:" prompt.) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: USB Pen Drive
I have sarge with a 2.6 kernel, and running gnome-volume-manager automatically mounts my usb pen drive, the device automatically appears in KDE Konqueror. --- Software Development Group <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi. > > I am putting a pen drive on the USB port and I can't see it. How do I link > to it? Mount it?... > > Thanks. > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new Resources site http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: webmin on debian testing.
- Original Message - From: "Steven Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "debian-user list" Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2005 6:27 PM Subject: webmin on debian testing. Hi, I have an issue with webmin, I can login as root to 127.0.0.1:1 with the unix root password, but I cannot login to its external IP, 130.195.20.24:1 I have set allow=130.195.0.0/255.255.0.0 127.0.0.1 in miniserv.conf But still no joy. I tried to enable ssl and generate new keys...no joy but 127.0.0.1 still works (mozilla on 127.0.0.1 gives me warnings about new keys but connects OK) What happens when you try to login? The default webmin install in Sarge/testing has https enabled by default. When I first set mine up, I ssh'd in from home, then ran Lynx to get to the allow IP page and set my external IP that way. Roundabout, newbie approach, but it does work. Not sure what your exact problem is. Oh yeah - firewall OK? GL - John What do I have to do to get webmin working on the external Debian box that differs to every other Unix/Linux? Regards Thing -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cannot boot Debian Unstable after shutdown.
On Sun, 29 May 2005 18:40:54 -0400, "KS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > It doesn't even start the kernel loading stage. It is as if Grub is > there, but no Linux installation! I feel a bit handicapped as I can't > even copy the text that I see after I hit [Enter] to boot from Grub. > Below is what the screen shows if I try to boot into any kernel (even in recovery mode): -- Booting `Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.11-1-686 (recovery mode)' root(hd1,0) Filesystem type is ext2fs, partition type 0x83 kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.11-1-686 root=/dev/hdb7 ro single [Linux-bzimage, setup=0x1600, size=0x12fac0] initrd /initrd.img-2.6.11-1-686 [Linux-initrd @ 0xfab5000, 0x47b000 bytes] save default boot = --- And the last = sign keeps on blinking, nothing happens. The rescue disk also gave similar results! -- KS [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X.org 6.8.2
On Sun, May 29, 2005 at 09:25:51PM +0200, Sven Arvidsson wrote: > gustavo halperin wrote: > > I almost try it, but isn't the problem. > > There is also a problem with a "LD_LIBRARY_PATH", the aren't contain the > > "/usr/X11R6/lib" > > and nothing almost is work at the time that I add manually this path. > > After it if I try manually for example the next command: > > > setxkbmap > > Always I receive the next error: > > > Error loading new keyboard description. > > > > That looks like some bug in the process of : "make install" from the X.org. > > Before it I wasn't this problems with the XFree86 4.3. > > Did you follow this guide? > http://blogs.vislab.usyd.edu.au/index.php/Steve/2004/09/09/installing_a_non_intrusive_x > > Especially the steps about adding the corrects paths to > LD_LIBRARY_PATH? > > Hopefully debian packages for Xorg will show up in the exeperimental > archive soon. Hi Sven, I have for the past 2 month been using an unofficial Xorg from [EMAIL PROTECTED] at: deb http://www.acm.cs.rpi.edu/~dilinger/xorg/ ./ deb-src http://www.acm.cs.rpi.edu/~dilinger/xorg/ ./ its 6.8.2-10sarge1. If you want some details about my transition, let me know. Cheers, kev -- counter.li.org #238656 -- goto counter.li.org and be counted! `$' $' $ $ _ ,d$$$g$ ,d$$$b. $,d$$$b`$' g$b $,d$$b ,$P' `$ ,$P' `Y$ $$' `$ $ "' `$ $$' `$ $$ $ $$g$ $ $ $ ,$P"" $ $$ `$g. ,$$ `$$._ _. $ _,g$P $ `$b. ,$$ $$ `Y$$P'$. `YP $$$P"' ,$. `Y$$P'$ $. ,$. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
kernel-image-2.6.11-1-386 (2.6.11-5) detection problem with Zaurus (OpenZaurus)
I am running Debian Sid. Yesterday I upgraded my kernel image. My kernel went from 2.6.11-? (I'm not sure if it was 2.6.11-2 or -3) to the latest (2.6.11-5). After the reboot, my Zaurus (running OpenZaurus 3.2) was no longer detected. Here are some excerpts from commands that may help show what's happening: Debian (sid) edited results from a dpkg listing: # dpkg -l Name version kernel-image-2.6.11-1-386 2.6.11-5 for i386 kernel-image-2.6.10-1-386 2.6.10-4 for i386 libusb-0.1-4 0.1.10a-11 usbutils 0.71-1 Results using the 2.6.11-5 kernel image # lsusb Bus 004 Device 002: ID 04b4:6560 Cypress Semiconductor Corp. CY7C65640 USB-2.0 "TetraHub" Bus 004 Device 001: ID : Bus 003 Device 001: ID : Bus 002 Device 001: ID : Bus 001 Device 001: ID : I ran dmesg to a file, plugged in the Zaurus, then ran dmesg again. This is what diff showed (without the "<" ">" characters). # dmesg usb 4-1.1: new full speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 3 usb 4-1.1: khubd timed out on ep0in usb 4-1.1: device not accepting address 3, error -32 usb 4-1.1: new full speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 4 usb 4-1.1: device descriptor read/64, error -32 usb 4-1.1: device descriptor read/64, error -32 Since I still had an old 2.6.10 kernel installed, I tried booting from it, making *no* other changes to the system. After rebooting, I then connected the Zaurus. When I plug in the Zaurus, dmesg shows this: #dmesg usb 4-1.1: new full speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 3 usb0: register usbnet at usb-:00:10.3-1.1, Sharp Zaurus SL-5x00 usbcore: registered new driver usbnet usb0: no IPv6 routers present Results from lsusb running 2.6.10-4 kernel image # lsusb Bus 004 Device 003: ID 04dd:8004 Sharp Corp. Zaurus SL-5000D/SL-5500 PDA Bus 004 Device 002: ID 04b4:6560 Cypress Semiconductor Corp. CY7C65640 USB-2.0 "TetraHub" Bus 004 Device 001: ID : Bus 003 Device 001: ID : Bus 002 Device 001: ID : Bus 001 Device 001: ID : Any ideas on what happened? I've checked the kernel-image 2.6.11 doc files "changelog.Debian.gz" and "Debian.src.changelog.gz", but I didn't see anything related to the Zaurus or to usbnet. Should I post a bug report on this, and if so, is what I've listed here enough information for a bug report? Thanks, Mark Johnson -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HP 3325 Inkjet on Sarge
Am Sonntag, 29. Mai 2005 19:55 schrieb Adam Majer: > shatam bhattacharya wrote: > > Hi list, > > I am facing problems installing my HP printer (make 3325 > > inkjet). > > This could be of some help, > > http://linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-DeskJet_3325 This is no help. I have the saem prob with a 3845. -- MfG usw. Werner Mahr registered Linuxuser: 295882 pgpV22d1mD86F.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Posting to the list ver 3
Apologies all 'round On Sun, May 29, 2005 at 04:51:31PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Sunday May 29 2005 9:45 am, David A. Patterson wrote: > > I'm not seeing the response come back from the list of my own mail > > to it, but I don't know if anybody else can see it either. Check > > of the list online at lists.debian.org shows that it's hitting the > > archive. > > Two things to remember with mailing lists in general: > > 1) If you can read it, you can post; there is no need to test on-list. > 2) If you see it in the archives, then you're definitely making it > out. -- Regards, Dave You will live to see your grandchildren. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: 3 unrelated Questions (ipmasq, vncserver, and IceWM)
Scarletdown wrote: As per the subject line, the following three questions are unrelated to each other. However, I felt it best to put them all in one post instead of doing 3 seperate posts. 1: I'm having some minor problems with ipmasq on a router I just built (Deabian Sid). After the network interfaces are brought up, ipmasq and GuardDog get started. However, none of the systems on the network, other than the router, are able to access the Internet until I manually run ipmasq. Is there some reason why you are not using guidedog for your IP routing configuration? It's intended to work as a pair with guarddog and I'm not surprised if you see problems with other packages. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Posting to the list ver 3
On Sunday May 29 2005 9:45 am, David A. Patterson wrote: > I'm not seeing the response come back from the list of my own mail > to it, but I don't know if anybody else can see it either. Check > of the list online at lists.debian.org shows that it's hitting the > archive. Two things to remember with mailing lists in general: 1) If you can read it, you can post; there is no need to test on-list. 2) If you see it in the archives, then you're definitely making it out. -- Paul Johnson Email and Instant Messenger (Jabber): [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://ursine.ca/~baloo/ pgpasxPJAN0YS.pgp Description: PGP signature
webmin on debian testing.
Hi, I have an issue with webmin, I can login as root to 127.0.0.1:1 with the unix root password, but I cannot login to its external IP, 130.195.20.24:1 I have set allow=130.195.0.0/255.255.0.0 127.0.0.1 in miniserv.conf But still no joy. I tried to enable ssl and generate new keys...no joy but 127.0.0.1 still works (mozilla on 127.0.0.1 gives me warnings about new keys but connects OK) What do I have to do to get webmin working on the external Debian box that differs to every other Unix/Linux? Regards Thing
Re: display problem?
On 29/05/05 18:06 kenny B wrote: I've just done a new installation > On 5/28/05, Adam Hardy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 28/05/05 22:10 kenny B wrote: Hi. i need to know if my problem with my display settings or with RAM (or other). my problem is: I must move my cursor around to get things to show up. they dont "refresh" automatically. if its is the display, could someone tell me how to change the settings? thanks. did this just start happening on a system that worked fine previously? or have you just done a new installation? you mean in the gui right? Console is ok? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: exim SMTP Authentication (Follow-up)
> Hopefully this will assist others running into these problems. > > What is very sad is that the only way I can reliably send mail to > mailing lists, and having them passed through the server, is with > Kmail in X. My beloved mutt with exim is just not reliable. I blame > this on the setup of the 'smarthost'. :-( > > Wayne > Don't give up yet! Try setting your exim4 to local delivery only: not on a network, and running MSMTP as your sendmail. apt-get install msmtp look here: http://punclox.blogon.com/archives/001996.html and the examples that come with msmtp. I now use gmail as my 'smarthost' - can do w/local isp, too -- Regards, Dave Tomorrow, you can be anywhere. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ndiswrapper WN825G wireless
I am running Debian unstable. I have compiled kernel from Debian kernel-source: dpkg -l |grep kernel-source ii kernel-source- 2.6.8-15 Linux kernel source for version 2.6.8 with D uname -a Linux denis 2.6.8 #5 Sun May 29 13:33:57 PDT 2005 i586 GNU/Linux I am not certain whether I have all necessary kernel options. I will attach .config at end. --- ndiswrapper --- ndiswrapper -l Installed ndis drivers: bcmwl5 driver present (I have tried with and without bcmwl5a.inf) Files in /etc/ndiswrapper: ls -lR total 8 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 May 29 14:21 bcmwl5 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 May 29 14:50 bcmwl5a ./bcmwl5: total 1536 lrwxr-xr-x 1 root root 50 May 29 14:21 14E4:4320.5.conf -> /etc/ndiswrapper/bcmwl5/14E4:4320:1057:7010.5.conf -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 513 May 29 14:21 14E4:4320:1057:7010.5.conf -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 513 May 29 14:21 14E4:4320:1057:7025.5.conf -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1267574 May 29 14:21 bcmwl5.inf -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 285056 May 29 14:21 bcmwl5.sys ./bcmwl5a: total 336 lrwxr-xr-x 1 root root 51 May 29 14:50 14E4:4320.5.conf -> /etc/ndiswrapper/bcmwl5a/14E4:4320:1057:7010.5.conf -rw-r--r-- 1 root root513 May 29 14:50 14E4:4320:1057:7010.5.conf -rw-r--r-- 1 root root513 May 29 14:50 14E4:4320:1057:7025.5.conf -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 285056 May 29 14:50 bcmwl5.sys -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 40976 May 29 14:50 bcmwl5a.inf --- insert modules --- insmod ndiswrapper.ko ndiswrapper version 1.1 loaded (prempt=no,smp=no) lsmod Module Size Used by ndiswrapper 124980 0 ds 14792 4 i82365 18480 0 pcmcia_core60424 2 ds,i82365 apm17600 1 evdev 6880 0 parport_pc 35332 0 parport31464 1 parport_pc 8250_pnp7744 0 8250 15808 1 8250_pnp serial_core17184 1 8250 uhci_hcd 27916 0 ohci_hcd 29636 0 ehci_hcd 36068 0 usbcore 104932 4 ndiswrapper,uhci_hcd,ohci_hcd,ehci_hcd At this point the Power and link light on the wireless card are supposed to light up on the card, but they do not. --- --- iwconfig lono wireless extensions. sit0 no wireless extensions. So I am stuck at this point. Does anyone have any suggestions? TIA, Dennis Krinke __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com config Description: 3341867309-config
Re: Cannot boot Debian Unstable after shutdown.
On Sun, 29 May 2005 23:44:59 +0100, "Matthew T. Atkinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > If 'doze has overwritten something that grub needed, perhaps booting a > grub floppy and using it to boot the system (or install grub again) > would help? > > That's all I can think of -- though TBH I would expect Grub to have been > totally wiped out if 'doze had meant to do that... > > bye just now, > Grub seems to be working fine as the system is running windows right now :( The problem arises only if I want to boot with a Linux kernel. /KS -- KS [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
3 unrelated Questions (ipmasq, vncserver, and IceWM)
As per the subject line, the following three questions are unrelated to each other. However, I felt it best to put them all in one post instead of doing 3 seperate posts. 1: I'm having some minor problems with ipmasq on a router I just built (Deabian Sid). After the network interfaces are brought up, ipmasq and GuardDog get started. However, none of the systems on the network, other than the router, are able to access the Internet until I manually run ipmasq. What configuration files do I need to change to get this system routing properly unattended. In other words, I need to know how to set it up to where once it gets to the login prompt, other systems on the network can get to the Internet without having to first log into the router and manually start ipmasq. eth0 is connected to the cable modem, and eth1 (the gateway for the other systems) is connected to the ethernet switch. 2: When I am away, I would like to be able to manage my network remotely via VNC. Is there any way to set up vncserver to run as a daemon or whatever? I need to figure out how to get a vnc server loaded at boot time, one for each user account (2, not counting root), while the router sits at the login prompt. Is this possible, or do I need to be logged in at the console before running vncserver? 3: And this one is only of minor importance, but something I have still been trying to figure out. Is there anyway to have multiple desktop wallpapers (a different one for each virtual desktop) with IceWM? I didn't see any options for this in Icepref, and Google searches have only turned up others asking this same question, but with no answers. I've switched over pretty much permanently to IceWM, even though my system has more than enough horsepower for KDE. However, the multiple wallpapers feature is about the only bit of "fluff" from KDE that I really miss. Is there any way at all to do thise with IceWM (or Fluxbox or GNOME for that matter)? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cannot boot Debian Unstable after shutdown.
If 'doze has overwritten something that grub needed, perhaps booting a grub floppy and using it to boot the system (or install grub again) would help? That's all I can think of -- though TBH I would expect Grub to have been totally wiped out if 'doze had meant to do that... bye just now, -- Matthew T. Atkinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cannot boot Debian Unstable after shutdown.
On Sun, 29 May 2005 18:28:02 -0400, "Marty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > KS wrote: > > Hi All, > > > > Today, I booted my dual boot Debian and Windows box to update virus > > definitions in the Windows partition. After using Windows for about > > 5min, I shutdown the machine to boot to Debian. After selecting kernel > > 2.6.11 to boot in, the screen just showed the kernel, bzimage, boot > > commands and stalled there. Nothing happened after that, just a blinking > > cursor! (same behaviour for single user and older kernels). > > > > Any guesses to the possible problems will be highly appreciated. > > There are two standard boot loaders in debian, lilo and grub, and there > a number of commercial boot loaders available which also can boot debian. I'm using Grub. > Each of them can be used in a variety of ways to do single or multi-stage > OS boots, and each method provides different possible points of failure, > and each boot loader gives different diagnostic signals or hints when it > fails. As I said above, it stops after the kernel, bzimage, and boot commands. It never reaches the kernel! And no error messages are displayed :( > > If the kernel loads but fails during the init process, then that's a > completely different problem. Your description does not match that. It doesn't even start the kernel loading stage. It is as if Grub is there, but no Linux installation! I feel a bit handicapped as I can't even copy the text that I see after I hit [Enter] to boot from Grub. Thanks /KS -- KS [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: problems with eps
Felix Natter wrote: I am using a standard LaTeX document class for presentations (prosper), which requires me to use latex+dvips+ps2pdf, and dvips only supports .eps for images... It appears to me that you goal is to get a PDF file as I would expect. Do you know that you can convert from GIF to PNG (and therefore preserve transparency) and include this figure in the latex file? Use \includegraphics from the graphics package, and instead of latex run pdflatex. pdflatex does basically the same thing as latex but the output is directly in PDF format. Furthermore, pdflatex take image formats such as PNG and JPG, but not postscript based. Hope this helps (in something), -- António Rafael C. Paiva Graduate student Computational NeuroEngineering Laboratory Electrical & Computer Engineering Department University of Florida Gainesville, FL 32611 WWW: arpaiva.webhop.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cannot boot Debian Unstable after shutdown.
KS wrote: Hi All, Today, I booted my dual boot Debian and Windows box to update virus definitions in the Windows partition. After using Windows for about 5min, I shutdown the machine to boot to Debian. After selecting kernel 2.6.11 to boot in, the screen just showed the kernel, bzimage, boot commands and stalled there. Nothing happened after that, just a blinking cursor! (same behaviour for single user and older kernels). Any guesses to the possible problems will be highly appreciated. There are two standard boot loaders in debian, lilo and grub, and there a number of commercial boot loaders available which also can boot debian. Each of them can be used in a variety of ways to do single or multi-stage OS boots, and each method provides different possible points of failure, and each boot loader gives different diagnostic signals or hints when it fails. I suspect your description is a little too vague to allow for useful guesswork. Since I use lilo, I know only its failure modes. It prints one of the four letters of "lilo" for each of the four initial booting stages, and then prints a serious of dots (periods) each of which represents a unit of loaded kernel data (though I don't recall what that unit is). If you use grub, then I can't help you much, but supposedly it has its own command line and built in debugging features, which I've never used. If the kernel loads but fails during the init process, then that's a completely different problem. Your description does not match that. If you want to just be done with it and fix the problem instead of debugging it, then just boot it up with a rescue floppy and rerun lilo, grub, or whatever boot loader you use. I recommend debugging the problem though, since it's likely to recur if you don't fix the root cause. It seems possible to me that the Windows system takes an antagonistic view of Linux and will disable it from booting. (At least I've heard stories about such malevolent behaviors by Windows.) Updating the "virus" checker would be a perfect pretext for taking such an action, but that's as far as I will take the guesswork. (Personally I consider Windows to be a virus, but that's just my own opinion.) I hope this helps. Good luck. Thanks, /KS -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Two internet connections
Hans du Plooy wrote: >My feeling is that the mailserver tries to respond to the connection via >it's default gateway. How do I tell it to respond via the interface >that the connection was made on? > > You need to set up routing tables with the ip(8) tool. That is in the iproute package. You essentially need to set up a new routing table that has its own default route for each interface. For example, I have, # ip rule 32762: from lookup AAA 32763: from lookup BBB 32764: from 10.10.10.10 lookup AAA 32765: from 10.10.10.11 lookup BBB 32767: from all lookup default (some names and IPs were changed :). # ip route list table BBB 192.168.3.0/24 dev eth2 scope link 10.0.0.0/8 dev eth1 scope link default via XYZ dev ppp1 # ip route list table AAA 192.168.3.0/24 dev eth2 scope link 10.0.0.0/8 dev eth1 scope link default via XYZ dev ppp0 This enables me to have connections coming from exp-ip-addr2 to receive a response though ppp1. extp-ip-addr1 gets response on ppp0. I needed two IPs on one host for the DMZ (10.10 network) because I lose routing information after the packet leaves me and all replies from DMZ would go through ppp0 (deafult routing table). >Any links to relevant documentation would be appreciated. > > Check out the Advanced Routing HOWTO, http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/other-formats/html_single/Adv-Routing-HOWTO.html - Adam -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Making LiveCDs
Hello, I have read the recent guides on debian-adminstration.org on how to use bootcd and dfsbuild to make Live CDs. I thought that the best approach would be to make a chroot system and configure it to my liking, then burn that to CD. I did the following but it falls down in the end; would appreciate it if someone could tell me what I can do to fix is... $ mkdir live $ debootstrap sarge live/ I copied my /etc/apt/sources.list to the chroot, then chrooted into it and mounted /proc. I installed grub and then exited the chroot and used: $ mkisofs -b lib/grub/i386-pc/stage2_eltorito -no-emul-boot -boot-load-size 1 -boot-info-table -pad -R -o live.iso live to make an ISO. Of course I'd forgotten to put a kernel on there ;-) so I went back into the chroot and tried to install kernel-image-2.4.27-speakup. It failed on trying to make the initrd, saying it couldn't determine the correct root device. How can I get around this? Any advice would be greatly appreciated. bye just now, -- Matthew T. Atkinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Slow Firefox performance on P4 1.7 GHz 1 GB system
On Sun, 2005-05-29 at 13:32 +0100, Lee Braiden wrote: > On Sunday 29 May 2005 12:30, Ionut Georgescu wrote: > > Well, I don't think it is the X only. Take Opera. On Linux it is much > > faster than Firefox. > > Except that it lacks freedom, the main feature many of us are using Linux for Of course, I just assumed I don't need to mention it on this list anymore :-) Greetings, Ionut > in the first place. Konqueror is real fast, if you want a Firefox > alternative. > > -- > Lee. > -- *** * Ionut Georgescu * http://www.physik.tu-cottbus.de/~george/ * Registered Linux User #244479 * * "In Windows you can do everything Microsoft wants you to do; in Unix *you can do anything the computer is able to do." signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Cannot boot Debian Unstable after shutdown.
Hi All, Today, I booted my dual boot Debian and Windows box to update virus definitions in the Windows partition. After using Windows for about 5min, I shutdown the machine to boot to Debian. After selecting kernel 2.6.11 to boot in, the screen just showed the kernel, bzimage, boot commands and stalled there. Nothing happened after that, just a blinking cursor! (same behaviour for single user and older kernels). Any guesses to the possible problems will be highly appreciated. Thanks, /KS -- KS [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: problems with eps
Steve A <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sun, May 29, 2005 at 05:30:20PM +0200 or thereabouts, Felix Natter wrote: >> hi, >> >> when I try to save this file: >> http://home.t-online.de/~fam.natter/prosper/LDCLogosm.gif >> as .eps (for inclusion in LaTeX-document), the resulting .eps >> looks unsharp: >> http://home.t-online.de/~fam.natter/prosper/LDCLogo.eps >> >> Using gimp I tried to save in indexed or rgb mode, >> no difference. I also tried imagemagick: >> $ convert LDCLogosm.gif LDCLogo.eps >> it gave the same results. > > Is there any particular reason for using '.eps' ? Is it to be printed ? I > would > use gif or png and make the background transparent. I am using a standard LaTeX document class for presentations (prosper), which requires me to use latex+dvips+ps2pdf, and dvips only supports .eps for images... Do you have the same problems? I can't imagine why a simple bitmap->bitmap conversion (without loss, as opposed to jpeg!) would have this kind of effect. Must be a bug somewhere! > You should be able to make > the eps transparent as well -- I'm not sure of the GIMPs capabilities in that > format. GIMP reports that "eps does not support transparency". -- Felix Natter -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: problems with eps
On Sun, May 29, 2005 at 05:30:20PM +0200, Felix Natter wrote: > when I try to save this file: > http://home.t-online.de/~fam.natter/prosper/LDCLogosm.gif > as .eps (for inclusion in LaTeX-document), the resulting .eps > looks unsharp: > http://home.t-online.de/~fam.natter/prosper/LDCLogo.eps I don't think there's anything wrong with the EPS file. Your GIF is only 150x80 pixels in size, so the resulting EPS file will certainly not look any better than the original :) In PostScript, rasterized images are embedded simply as is (no vectorization attempts are being made), and that's exactly what happened. Any perceived 'unsharpness' stems from rescaling/resampling effects that occur when looking at the image at different sizes -- i.e. ghostscript, acroread, etc. will most likely _not_ show the image representing 1 image pixel as 1 screen pixel... In case you don't believe the actual image is still the same in the EPS, try the following: * load the GIF in Gimp and zoom it up to 400% (view->zoom->4:1) * uncomment line 16 in the EPS file as follows (removes margin offset) % 14.173228346456694 14.173228346456694 translate * then display it with ghostscript like this $ gs -dDEVICEWIDTHPOINTS=150 -dDEVICEHEIGHTPOINTS=80 -r288x288 LDCLogo.eps Now you should have two windows of same size where each image pixel has been magnified to 4 screen pixels (in both cases), and you can easily verify that they're very much the same -- at least that's what they look like to me... ;) To achieve better results for printing, you'll probably want a better image resolution to start with. In case you can't get at one, the best results will be achieved, if you at least make sure that 1 image pixel will be represented by 1 halftoning cell when printed. Unfortunately, that's not always as easy as it sounds, 'cos quite a number of things do come into play here... (and it would get even more complex if you plan to print indirectly via PDF). Feel free to contact me off-list if you need to go that route -- but as I said, a better original image resolution would definitely be preferable. > > When I try to embed the .eps in a LaTeX-presentation, it looks > even worse (the white background is semi-yellow): Not sure what further processing steps LaTeX has applied here... the final result looks somewhat like a smoothed, low quality JPEG to me. I'm afraid I can't help with this problem... Cheers, Almut -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MySQL won't start
On Sunday 29 May 2005 22:58, Felix Natter wrote: > May 29 18:59:21 localhost mysqld[4420]: 050529 18:59:21 Can't start server: > cannot resolve hostname!: No such file or directory > I am guessing that either: > - /etc/hosts does not contain localhost > - "ifconfig lo" does not exist > - /etc/hostname does not exist 1 and 2 are in place, working and readable. Lo makes no difference - I have tried with both, up and down. However, after some more hours of trying I have found a fix in this way: just commented the line (in my.cnf): #bind-address= 127.0.0.1 This makes mysql start and listen: tcp0 0 0.0.0.0:33060.0.0.0:* LISTEN I have not yet had time to see if everything works :) but at least it doesn't give errors at startup... -- Palantir === http://www.netpalantir.it icq:57482808 === MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nightfall, quietly crept in and changed us all -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: problems with eps
On Sun, May 29, 2005 at 05:30:20PM +0200 or thereabouts, Felix Natter wrote: > hi, > > when I try to save this file: > http://home.t-online.de/~fam.natter/prosper/LDCLogosm.gif > as .eps (for inclusion in LaTeX-document), the resulting .eps > looks unsharp: > http://home.t-online.de/~fam.natter/prosper/LDCLogo.eps > > Using gimp I tried to save in indexed or rgb mode, > no difference. I also tried imagemagick: > $ convert LDCLogosm.gif LDCLogo.eps > it gave the same results. Is there any particular reason for using '.eps' ? Is it to be printed ? I would use gif or png and make the background transparent. You should be able to make the eps transparent as well -- I'm not sure of the GIMPs capabilities in that format. -- Steve A. --- Sunday May 29 2005 16:00:02 EDT --- Guillotine, n.: A French chopping center. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Sound over X (was Re: X and sound on debian, really wanted!)
TreeBoy wrote: Hi, again. Managed to get it working (sort of!). I have a desktop machine that sits in another room because the flashing lights and the noisy fans would not be allowed into the living room. I have a laptop that I use all the time connected to the desktop. I run X on the desktop and view it's contents on the laptop with the following command; X -query desktop :1 What version of X? I don't see the "-query" option in either "X --help" or the X man page. (I am using sarge with XFree86.) > > I am not able to get to log in remotely using kdm. Did you try xdm or gdm? KDE shouldn't need kdm to work properly. Now I'm wondering whether any of this will work over ssh. I abandoned networked X long ago due for security reasons, and I would hate to take a huge step backwards just to get sound. Funny I didn't think of that before. Anyway thanks for the update. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to move debian from one drive to another and keep it working?
Can anybody improve the page http://wiki.debian.net/?Move about the same topic ?. Thank you a lot. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Slow Firefox performance on P4 1.7 GHz 1 GB system
Rogério Brito wrote: Indeed. One thing that has puzzled me is that scrolling in www.macslash.org is simply *slow* on my system while I am using Debian. On the other hand, when I boot Windows 2000 SP4 on this very same machine, I have no problems with slow scrolling on that site. I wouldn't even notice that something were different with that particular site. Are there others that see the same behaviour under Debian? I have not tested other distributions, unfortunately. Thanks in advance for any feedback, Rogério. May I ask which processor and video card you are using, and at what resolution are you running in both operating systems? The reason I ask is that my desktop exhibits not only the same slow down symptoms with websites, but also very noticeable slow redraw of firefox windows (and GTK2 app windows) when switching workspaces. All this with unstable/sid and debian stock kernels 2.6.10 or 2.6.11 and blackbox or openbox. Initially I thought that my P4 2.4Ghz, 512MB RAM was starting to show its age, but a recent upgrade to a A64 3000+ with 1 GB ram (ASUS A8V) didn't seem to make things any better in this area. This all being used with a ATI Radeon 9200 (also tried an older ATI 9000 pro) driving a 20" flat panel at 1600x1200. This all started with the purchase of a new laptop. All of these signs and symptoms became very noticeable after recently purchasing a new IBM Thinkpad X40 and installing debian unstable. It's a slower machine with half the ram: Pentium-M 1.5Ghz driving a 12" lcd at 1024x768. The video card is on board Intel 855gm with 8mb shared memory. I just booted up the laptop while wrting this expecting to get the same super slow scrolling of www.macslash.org and expecting the CPU to be pegged at 100%. It's noticeably faster on may little laptop, cpu increases to a max of 50%. Plus, swicthing workspaces with openbox or blackbox results in instantaneous window redraw, with no sluggishness. I'm wondering if this might be a video card issue. Maybe the Intel open source drivers are better? Maybe X.org fixes many of these issues? Dunno. I tried running the 20" flat panel at 1024x768, but that didn't cure anything. My current video card needs for linux are excellent 2d to drive a 20" panel at 1600x1200 (and a possible upgrade to 1900x1200 in the future) with a fanless adapter. A quick Google search shows that a Matrox g450 is a good chioce, but there might be some performacne issues with driving hi-res displays. My other option is to wait 'till the Open Graphics team actually produces a card sometime next fall. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X.org 6.8.2
gustavo halperin wrote: > I almost try it, but isn't the problem. > There is also a problem with a "LD_LIBRARY_PATH", the aren't contain the > "/usr/X11R6/lib" > and nothing almost is work at the time that I add manually this path. > After it if I try manually for example the next command: > > setxkbmap > Always I receive the next error: > > Error loading new keyboard description. > > That looks like some bug in the process of : "make install" from the X.org. > Before it I wasn't this problems with the XFree86 4.3. Did you follow this guide? http://blogs.vislab.usyd.edu.au/index.php/Steve/2004/09/09/installing_a_non_intrusive_x Especially the steps about adding the corrects paths to LD_LIBRARY_PATH? Hopefully debian packages for Xorg will show up in the exeperimental archive soon. Also, don't answer back to me directly, but back to the list so all can read :-) -- Cheers, Sven Arvidsson http://www.whiz.se PGP Key ID 760BDD22 signature.asc Description: Digital signature
problems with eps
hi, when I try to save this file: http://home.t-online.de/~fam.natter/prosper/LDCLogosm.gif as .eps (for inclusion in LaTeX-document), the resulting .eps looks unsharp: http://home.t-online.de/~fam.natter/prosper/LDCLogo.eps Using gimp I tried to save in indexed or rgb mode, no difference. I also tried imagemagick: $ convert LDCLogosm.gif LDCLogo.eps it gave the same results. When I try to embed the .eps in a LaTeX-presentation, it looks even worse (the white background is semi-yellow): http://home.t-online.de/~fam.natter/prosper/ReklaMan.pdf (In case you don't see the problem I have uploaded a screenshot: http://home.t-online.de/~fam.natter/prosper/ReklaMan_pdf_sshot.png) I am also having problems displaying some pdfs with adobe reader 5 (no problems with xpdf, gpdf or adobe reader 7). http://home.t-online.de/~fam.natter/prosper/prettybox_ar5.png I am using debian testing weekly isos from 12/04. thanks, -- Felix Natter -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sound over X (was Re: X and sound on debian, really wanted!)
Hi, again. Managed to get it working (sort of!). I have a desktop machine that sits in another room because the flashing lights and the noisy fans would not be allowed into the living room. I have a laptop that I use all the time connected to the desktop. I run X on the desktop and view it's contents on the laptop with the following command; X -query desktop :1 I am not able to get to log in remotely using kdm. First of all, I had to install nas (the server package) on the laptop. Then I installed nas-bin (the client utils) on the desktop. I then had to change the /etc/default/nas file on the laptop to have the "-aa" option to allow unauthenticated connections. I was then able to run auinfo on the laptop's konsole and it said everything was fine. I was also able to execute the following on a remote konsole on the desktop (i.e. sat at the laptop in KDE on the desktop): auinfo -audio tcp/laptop:8000 and get the results I needed. When I then execute: audial -audio tcp/laptop:8000 -volume 50 0123 and get the tones come out of the laptop!!! Unfortunately, when I then tell KDE to use the NAS, I get segfaults - so it does not work. Next I'm going to look at ESD and then aRTS if that fails. Will let you know. Cheers, TreeBoy On Thursday 26 May 2005 00:46, Marty wrote: > TreeBoy wrote: > > Do you mean NAS (Network Audio System) which is available on Debian now. > > That seems to be something else. The slashdot discussion is about X.org's > MAS (media application server), and the posting links to this web site: > > http://www.mediaapplicationserver.net/ > > Since this is an X.org project, I suspect we have to wait until Debian > completes the transition from XFree86 to X.org. > > > I'm intending to try and sort this out for myself this very weekend. > > > > I'll post if you're interested. > > I would be interested. Thanks. > > > Cheers, > > TreeBoy -- Marriage is the triumph of imagination over intelligence. Second marriage is the triumph of hope over experience. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problems with my network
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 En/La Master Millenium ha escrit, a 29/05/05 15:50: | When I try to netinstall sarge, I need to give my network adapter. | There's a list of some but I can't find it (VIA Networking Velocity | Family Giga-bit Ethernet Adapter), so I move forwards and it asks for | the floppy, but I haven't got a that could preinstall the adapter. What | should I do? I would be very pleased if someone knows the answer to this. | Hmmm. If I remember correctly when I netinstalled sarge some time ago, it spotted my network adapter w/o asking me about it. You might try running a Knoppix CD and see what it makes of your network adapter. If it works (it always seems to, at least in my experience), write down the configuration and try feeding it to sarge when you netinst the next time. cheers, Jonathan -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCmgWU64+f0AXUe+4RAsn3AJ9VI1Ju8GBYIzUFtL3YJsKa4SvwLwCcCraT rh3JhfRQyaFytJYEF0FJUS0= =7ISr -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Slow Firefox performance scrolling macslash.org
Rogério Brito wrote: On May 28 2005, Marty wrote: The difference is measurable, not subjective. I don't even have to measure in my system to see that there's something wrong: the difference is really drastic here. Slashdot, which you mention as a similar-looking page, is fast, but I don't think that that's the right comparison, because even thought the "looks" are similar, their code might not be. The FAQ on maclash.org says they use the slashdot.org blog software, called slashcode, so that explains the page resemblence. I have emailed the site maintainers to ask if they have made any changes to the code that could account for the slowdown. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sarge: Software RAID1
Hi, I have installed Debian GNU/Linux Sarge on IDE Software RAID1, kernel 2.4.27-2-k7, however I had only one disk at that time, so I setup a RAID1 with only one disk. I bought another disk. I have added the second disk to the RAID1 with mdadm --add /dev/md0 /dev/hdc1 and I have added /dev/hdc1 to the /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf file. See attached. Now, If I reboot the host, the disk which I have added with 'mdadm' and configured at 'mdadm.conf' is not used. See attached the dmesg output. However, If I * compile a custom kernel-image 2.4.27 with the RAID1 module in kernel, * boot on that kernel, * execute "mdadm --add /dev/md0 /dev/hdc1" again, * and reboot both disks are used!. If I reboot again using the official sarge 2.4.27-2-k7 kernel only one disk is used again. I remember when I installed the host, and setup the raid, I set the disk as ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part1,1 or something similar. Note that the dmesg output reports it is using that partition but not the one of the second hard disk, which was added with 'mdadm'. What file must I modify to be able to use both disks, using the official 2.4.27-2-k7 kernel image ?. Davi DEVICE partitions ARRAY /dev/md0 level=raid1 num-devices=2 UUID=23fd294f:743ab8ba:8e8aa4d1:48ef7762 devices=/dev/hda1,/dev/hdc1 BIOS-e820: 0009fc00 - 000a (reserved) BIOS-e820: 000f - 0010 (reserved) BIOS-e820: 0010 - 1fff (usable) BIOS-e820: 1fff - 1fff3000 (ACPI NVS) BIOS-e820: 1fff3000 - 2000 (ACPI data) BIOS-e820: fec0 - fec01000 (reserved) BIOS-e820: fee0 - fee01000 (reserved) BIOS-e820: - 0001 (reserved) 0MB HIGHMEM available. 511MB LOWMEM available. found SMP MP-table at 000f4b80 hm, page 000f4000 reserved twice. hm, page 000f5000 reserved twice. hm, page 000f reserved twice. hm, page 000f1000 reserved twice. On node 0 totalpages: 131056 zone(0): 4096 pages. zone(1): 126960 pages. zone(2): 0 pages. ACPI: RSDP (v000 GBT ) @ 0x000f6460 ACPI: RSDT (v001 GBTAWRDACPI 0x42302e31 AWRD 0x01010101) @ 0x1fff3000 ACPI: FADT (v001 GBTAWRDACPI 0x42302e31 AWRD 0x01010101) @ 0x1fff3040 ACPI: MADT (v001 GBTAWRDACPI 0x42302e31 AWRD 0x01010101) @ 0x1fff6880 ACPI: DSDT (v001 GBTAWRDACPI 0x1000 MSFT 0x010c) @ 0x ACPI: Local APIC address 0xfee0 ACPI: LAPIC (acpi_id[0x00] lapic_id[0x00] enabled) Processor #0 Pentium(tm) Pro APIC version 16 ACPI: LAPIC_NMI (acpi_id[0x00] dfl dfl lint[0x1]) Using ACPI for processor (LAPIC) configuration information Intel MultiProcessor Specification v1.4 Virtual Wire compatibility mode. OEM ID: OEM0 Product ID: PROD APIC at: 0xFEE0 I/O APIC #2 Version 17 at 0xFEC0. Enabling APIC mode: Flat. Using 1 I/O APICs Processors: 1 Kernel command line: root=/dev/md0 ro hdd=ide-scsi Initializing CPU#0 Detected 2009.343 MHz processor. Console: colour VGA+ 80x25 Calibrating delay loop... 4010.80 BogoMIPS Memory: 511532k/524224k available (1186k kernel code, 12304k reserved, 452k data, 116k init, 0k highmem) Dentry cache hash table entries: 65536 (order: 7, 524288 bytes) Inode cache hash table entries: 32768 (order: 6, 262144 bytes) Mount cache hash table entries: 512 (order: 0, 4096 bytes) Buffer cache hash table entries: 32768 (order: 5, 131072 bytes) Page-cache hash table entries: 131072 (order: 7, 524288 bytes) CPU: L1 I Cache: 64K (64 bytes/line), D cache 64K (64 bytes/line) CPU: L2 Cache: 256K (64 bytes/line) Intel machine check architecture supported. Intel machine check reporting enabled on CPU#0. CPU: After generic, caps: 0383fbff c1c3fbff CPU: Common caps: 0383fbff c1c3fbff CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+ stepping 00 Enabling fast FPU save and restore... done. Enabling unmasked SIMD FPU exception support... done. Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK. POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX enabled ExtINT on CPU#0 ESR value before enabling vector: ESR value after enabling vector: ENABLING IO-APIC IRQs Setting 2 in the phys_id_present_map ...changing IO-APIC physical APIC ID to 2 ... ok. init IO_APIC IRQs IO-APIC (apicid-pin) 2-0, 2-10, 2-11, 2-17, 2-18, 2-20, 2-23 not connected. ..TIMER: vector=0x31 pin1=2 pin2=0 number of MP IRQ sources: 23. number of IO-APIC #2 registers: 24. testing the IO APIC... IO APIC #2.. register #00: 0200 ...: physical APIC id: 02 ...: Delivery Type: 0 ...: LTS : 0 register #01: 00178003 ... : max redirection entries: 0017 ... : PRQ implemented: 1 ... : IO APIC version: 0003 IRQ redirection table: NR Log Phy Mask Trig IRR Pol Stat Dest Deli Vect: 00 000 00 100 0 00000 01 001 01 000 0 01139 02 001 01 00
MySQL won't start
Hello! I have been trying to solve this since this morning, but I seem to be going nowhere :( Using debian testing, installed today. My computer is called "firewall" and the command resolveip localhost or resolveip firewall correctly return 127.0.0.1 When I try to start mysql from command line I get: firewall:/etc/mysql# /etc/init.d/mysql start Starting MySQL database server: mysqld...failed. Please take a look at the syslog. /usr/bin/mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed error: 'Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)' Check that mysqld is running and that the socket: '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' exists! firewall:/etc/mysql# while syslog says: May 29 18:59:21 localhost mysqld_safe[4416]: started May 29 18:59:21 localhost mysqld[4420]: 050529 18:59:21 Can't start server: cannot resolve hostname!: No such file or directory May 29 18:59:21 localhost mysqld_safe[4422]: ended May 29 18:59:29 localhost /etc/init.d/mysql[4485]: 0 processes alive and '/usr/bin/mysqladmin --defaults-file=/etc/mysql/debian. cnf ping' resulted in May 29 18:59:29 localhost /etc/init.d/mysql[4485]: ^G/usr/bin/mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed May 29 18:59:29 localhost /etc/init.d/mysql[4485]: error: 'Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/m ysqld.sock' (2)' May 29 18:59:29 localhost /etc/init.d/mysql[4485]: Check that mysqld is running and that the socket: '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.soc k' exists! May 29 18:59:29 localhost /etc/init.d/mysql[4485]: Any help is appreciated! Thanks Palantir -- Palantir === http://www.netpalantir.it icq:57482808 === MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nightfall, quietly crept in and changed us all -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to move debian from one drive to another and keep it working?
Andres Järv wrote: Would anybody care to explain me why the tar version is better for example doing cp -ax /* /mnt/ ? It has to do with the limitations of the linux kernel. cp -a changes the time/date stamps on symbolic links during recursive copies, due (according to the maintainer) to the absence of the "lutimes" system call in Linux. I don't know about tar. The only copying utility I have utmost confidence in is rsync, which compensates for the linux shortcomings, and that's only if I run it at least twice to catch all the hard link targets it missed on its first pass. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to move debian from one drive to another and keep it working?
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Re: Slow Firefox performance scrolling macslash.org
Rogério Brito wrote: On May 28 2005, Marty wrote: The difference is measurable, not subjective. I don't even have to measure in my system to see that there's something wrong: the difference is really drastic here. Slashdot, which you mention as a similar-looking page, is fast, but I don't think that that's the right comparison, because even thought the "looks" are similar, their code might not be. I am not familiar with web page coding. If there is a major difference then maybe a "web monkey" can take a look and tell us what is different. On the other hand, it could be something subtle like anti-aliased fonts, since the slowdown seems to be mainly in X routines. On the other hand, the puzzling thing is that macslash.org is quite slow under Linux, while it is much faster in Windows, with the same versions of Firefox (yes, the Windows version was taken from Mozilla.org and the Linux version was taken from Debian). That's consistent with my observations that 80% of the CPU time is spent in X, and that the problem exists in Mozilla and Konqueror. Perhaps there's a difference in optimizations used during compilation or, say, the GTK 2 is really slow and macslash.org "forces" Firefox to use more widgets than slashdot.org? I sincerely don't know, but surely this is confusing as we both discovered. It's some kind of bad interaction. For me the biggest puzzle is why some people don't see the problem at all. I think the key to this problem is finding out what's different in those systems that don't exhibit the problem. I recently upgraded all my boxes to sarge, with similar configurations, so they all exhibit the problem. :-( Thanks for taking the time to verify "the phenomenon", Rogério. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HP 3325 Inkjet on Sarge
shatam bhattacharya wrote: > Hi list, > I am facing problems installing my HP printer (make 3325 inkjet). > This could be of some help, http://linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-DeskJet_3325 - Adam -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Two internet connections
On Sat, 2005-05-28 at 10:57 +0200, Meni Shapiro wrote: > Hi, > > You failed to mention what SMTP server you are running. Sorry, I didn't think that would make a difference. The SMTP issue is a side effect of the routing problem. The machine responds to all connections from foreign networks via the default gateway, instead of the interface that the connection was made two. It's postfix by the way :-) The setup looks like this. eth0 is local network, 192.168.1.1 is the default gateway (IP-COP firewall). eth1 is connected to a router, which is connected to a least line. For argument's sake, lets say eth1 is 203.203.203.21 (and the router is .20). eth1 is a publicly routeable IP. It used to be the only internet connection, but the leased line is going to be axed soon. This machine used to be the firewall for the network too, doing NAT with iptables, nothing fancy, as well as being the mail gateway for an exchange server in the network. Now it's just running postfix. So what happens is a connection comes in on eth1 from somewhere on the internet, and the box tries to reply via the default gateway, which is connected to a different ISP. I found this: http://linux-ip.net/html/adv-multi-internet.html which seems to be the answer to my problem, will try it out tomorrow when I have access to the building. Thanks -- Hans du Plooy SagacIT (Pty) Ltd hansdp at sagacit dot com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: please help a poor student
On Sunday 29 May 2005 15:40, ratikanta rath wrote: Note- I began liking debian after i heard of it. Please help this poor student by mailing me the CDs if you have This mail looks like a hoax to me, but anyway... Go to the Ubuntu website below http://shipit.ubuntulinux.org/ and they will send you the CDs for Ubuntu Linux for free. It' not the best distro, but it's based on it ;-) -- BAP -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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display problem?
I've just done a new installation On 5/28/05, Adam Hardy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 28/05/05 22:10 kenny B wrote: > > Hi. i need to know if my problem with my display settings or with RAM > > (or other). > > my problem is: I must move my cursor around to get things to show up. > > they dont "refresh" > > automatically. > > if its is the display, could someone tell me how to change the settings? > > thanks. > > did this just start happening on a system that worked fine previously? > > or have you just done a new installation? > > > Adam > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
Posting to the list ver 3
I'm not seeing the response come back from the list of my own mail to it, but I don't know if anybody else can see it either. Check of the list online at lists.debian.org shows that it's hitting the archive. Will somebody please respond so I know this thing is working? -- Regards, Dave Your best consolation is the hope that the things you failed to get weren't really worth having. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: exim SMTP Authentication (Follow-up)
Wayne Topa([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: > Adam > > Thanks for the tip. I have exim4, with exim4-daemon-light, installed and > am > still fighting to get AUTH working. Here is what I have found. > > Telnet smtp.intergate.com 25 > EHLO intergate.com > 250-corpweb.trip.net Hello host-69-95-14-38.roc.choiceone.net [69.95.14.38], > ple > ased to meet you > 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES > 250-PIPELINING > 250-8BITMIME > 250-SIZE 4000 > 250-DSN > 250-ETRN > 250-AUTH LOGIN PLAIN DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 > 250-DELIVERBY > 250 HELP > > seems to indicate cram-md5 'should' work but here is what I get when I try to > send from this address: > cram_md5 authenticator failed H=smtp.intergate.com [216.139.64.8] 535 5.7.0 > authentication failed > if I comment the cram_md5 authenticator out, leaving only the plain and login > authenticators I get (trying to get on the exim4 mail list) > [EMAIL PROTECTED] R=smarthost > T=remote_smtp_smarthost: SMTP error from remote mailer after > RCPT TO:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: host > smtp.intergate.com [216.139.64.8]: 550 5.7.1 > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>. > .. Relaying denied. Proper authentication required. Further testing shows that the 'smarthost' does not like the cram_md5 and will only accept mail with the LOGIN authentication. On occasion the 'smarthost' passes mail that it had previously denied. The error: RCPT TO: is caused by my having "set followup_to" in my .muttrc. Commenting that out has stopped the RCPT TO: notice from the server. I have also added "set ignore_list_reply_to=yes" to the muttrc. This is a windoze server so I guess it is to be expected that what works for other ISP's does not necessarally work there. Hopefully this will assist others running into these problems. What is very sad is that the only way I can reliably send mail to mailing lists, and having them passed through the server, is with Kmail in X. My beloved mutt with exim is just not reliable. I blame this on the setup of the 'smarthost'. :-( Wayne -- Don't compute and drive; the life you save may be your own. ___ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: please help a poor student
On Sunday 29 May 2005 15:40, ratikanta rath wrote: > Note- I began liking debian after i heard of it. > Please help this poor student by mailing me the CDs if > you have If you search, you may find a LUG (Linux User Group) in your area. If you attend a meeting, or contact them through their mailing lists, you should be able to find someone in your area who will help you get a CD, and to get you started. Good luck :) -- Lee. Please do not CC replies directly to me. I'll read them on the list. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
postings disappearing..
Oh. They're posted. At least to the archive on line. I just don't get them back. -- Regards, Dave Q: What is the difference between a duck? A: One leg is both the same. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Slow Firefox performance on P4 1.7 GHz 1 GB system
I wrote: > I don't see it here either. Firefox 1.0.4-1, FVWM 2.4.15-1, XFree86 > 4.2.1-6, kernel 2.6.4, dual PIII-500 with 384M. And a Matrox G400. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
please help a poor student
Note- I began liking debian after i heard of it. Please help this poor student by mailing me the CDs if you have Dear Sir/Madam, I am Ratikanta Rath from Angul(Orissa). I am a below middle-class(above poverty) boy living in a village of Jarasigha, near Angul town. Two months ago, I heard of linux and I became interested in it after I heard of it from my friend. He described its features in a manner which made me to lay awake whole night. I have a very low-end computer with 5GB hard disk and 122MB RAM. It can boot from CDROM. I am running WinXP Pro successfully on it. I can not upgrade my PC due to money problems. My friend gave me a live CD and i liked it. It was BhavyaOS from November 2003 issue of LFY(I do not even have enough money to buy magazines). I now wanted a user friendly, stable and fast Linux. So I wanted a good, user friendly, stable linux OS which can work smoothly on my machine without crashing like WinXP Pro. But I could not find a good, stable distribution having very good GUI for a begginner which could run on 122.8MB of RAM. I don't have money either for buying. Here there is no body to help and I don't know of any linux user who can help other than my friend who can not help. I don't have internet access. Please help this poor student who wants to learn linux by mailing me some good linux distribution CDs which can run on 122.8 RAM. I am writing this email from an internet cafe from my friends email adress for requesting some well-known kind persons for mailing me some CDs as I can't buy them and they are sold in Angul very costly (Rs 500 per distro). If you can understand my situation please mail me some old distros lying in your house. I am soory if i caused any trouble to you. My address: Ratikanta Rath At/PO: Jarasingha Dist.: Angul Orissa, India Postal Code: 759143 Yahoo! India Matrimony: Find your life partner online Go to: http://yahoo.shaadi.com/india-matrimony -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to move debian from one drive to another and keep it working?
, but the installer didn't recognize the card, so I was forced to install Debian to the old drive. Then, the installer installed a kernel that _did_ recognize the PCI controller, so now that Debian is installed to the wrong place I am able to partition and use the drive where I wanted Debian to be in the first place! > > > > There's a package out there called Mondo that may help you automate things a bit... -- Regards, Dave You have the power to influence all with whom you come in contact. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: How to move debian from one drive to another and keep it working?
On Fri, 27 May 2005, David Witbrodt wrote: I just installed Debian for the first time. I have two hard drives, one on the motherboard IDE controller and a bigger, better one on a PCI controller card. I wanted to install Debian to the drive attached to the PCI controller, but the installer didn't recognize the card, so I was forced to install Debian to the old drive. Then, the installer installed a kernel that _did_ recognize the PCI controller, so now that Debian is installed to the wrong place I am able to partition and use the drive where I wanted Debian to be in the first place! I need advice from experienced users on how to move a working Debian from here: / /dev/hda7 swap /dev/hda5 to here: /dev/hdg5/ /dev/hdg2/boot /dev/hdg6/usr /dev/hdg7/tmp /dev/hdg8/var /dev/hdg9/home You will need to setup /etc/fstab and grub appropriately, these are the main disk dependent settings IIRC. As a newbie, I'm in danger of doing some real stupid things. My first guess at a solution would involve the following steps: 1. Copy (recursive) each corresponding directory to the appropriate partitions Recursive copy isn't the best solution since you need to preserve symbolic links, ownership and special files. IIRC you should do cp -a as root, but check the man page for cp just to make sure. You also don't want to copy /proc and if you are using 2.6 kernel, /sys. If you are not using devfs or udev I think the MAKEDEV script (or somthings similar which sits in /dev IIRC) is a better way then recursive copy of the devices. > 2. Modify certain config files to point at the new partitions 3. Modify grub settings, especially 'menu.lst' and use grub-install to write the MBR on the new drive. (I am going to alter the BIOS settings so that the new drive boots first -- the controller card has its own BIOS and supports this feature -- but that means the original install of grub to the old drive's MBR will no longer operate.) Help, either in the form of recommended steps or references to the appropriate documents, would be much appreciated! Thanks, Dave Witbrodt +++ This Mail Was Scanned By Mail-seCure System at the Tel-Aviv University CC. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to move debian from one drive to another and keep it working?
Would anybody care to explain me why the tar version is better for example doing cp -ax /* /mnt/ ?
Re: mailing list archive bug?
On 29/05/05 13:13 Maurits van Rees wrote: On Sat, May 28, 2005 at 11:49:41PM +0100, Adam Hardy wrote: Has anyone else noticed that the mailing list search engine will return zero results if you select zero max-lines-per-msg? I presume I'm not misinterpreting the option and it should just return message titles? The search page http://lists.debian.org/search.html says: "Max lines per message Selecting zero will return message titles only." So your interpretation seems correct. I don't see any results either, so it looks like a bug. You may want to file a bug to the listarchives pseudopackage: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=listarchives Just tried but reportbug failed to connect to SMTP because my SMTP server required a password which reportbug's auto-config had failed to set up. Is that another bug? :O I submitted direct. Some of those bugs are very old so it's almost like it's not getting maintained. And this bug is trivial in comparison. Adam -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Slow Firefox performance on P4 1.7 GHz 1 GB system
Rogério Brito writes: > Don't you see the problem while scrolling www.macslash.org? I don't see it here either. Firefox 1.0.4-1, FVWM 2.4.15-1, XFree86 4.2.1-6, kernel 2.6.4, dual PIII-500 with 384M. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Kernel Headers
Stephen Grant Brown wrote: Got tarball of Linux Kernel 2.6.11.7, and compilled and installed it. Modules do not work. Tried to re-install tarball of faubackup but it fails too. How do I correctly install the Linux Kernel tarball, the faubackup tarball and the correct header files? If it is RTFM, which one do I read and where do I find it? I agree with the other poster. If you installed the kernel The Debian Way(tm), then the modules would load properly. Install the kernel-package package and follow those instructions and the kernel should install fine. My guess about not loading the kernel modules is that the module-init-tools package is not installed which the kernel-package will install automatically. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Problems with my network
When I try to netinstall sarge, I need to give my network adapter. There's a list of some but I can't find it (VIA Networking Velocity Family Giga-bit Ethernet Adapter), so I move forwards and it asks for the floppy, but I haven't got a that could preinstall the adapter. What should I do? I would be very pleased if someone knows the answer to this. _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Slow Firefox performance on P4 1.7 GHz 1 GB system
Rather than a Debian build, have you compared speeds with Mozilla.org's upstream? I've always run upstream and a few days ago tried Debian's 1.0.4 from Sarge and am noticing Firefox is much more sluggish. But then, I need to compare it when running IceWM as I'm also playing with KDE on this box for the first time. - Nate >> -- Wireless | Amateur Radio Station N0NB | Successfully Microsoft Amateur radio exams; ham radio; Linux info @ | free since January 1998. http://www.qsl.net/n0nb/ | "Debian, the choice of My Kawasaki KZ-650 SR @| a GNU generation!" http://www.networksplus.net/n0nb/ | http://www.debian.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CVS checkout behind firewall proxy
On Sun, May 29, 2005 at 03:46:02PM +0300, Alphonse Ogulla wrote: > Hi All, > > I'm trying to do a cvs checkout from a debian beast on the company > network but get the error. > > cvs [login aborted]: connect to cvs.digium.com(66.250.69.240):2401 > failed: No route to host > > I'm connected to the internet via a proxy firewall. Does this imply > specific ports required by cvs are closed? Can cvs use the http port > number? How else can I get to use cvs from behind a firewall? I've > read about cvs-proxy but it seems to do a totally different thing. > Shall appreciate your assitance. > Get the admins to open that port. Seriously. If you need access to servers on that port for work-related functions you should be able to make a case for it. The problem with proxying the way you are talking about is that you need to someone listening on port 80 outside your network that then translates the traffic over to port 2401. That poses some risks for whoever proxies for you since they either need to authenticate you or take some other measure to restrict the flow of traffic to trusted individuals. The other possibility is to see if the site you are trying to download from offers anonymous CVS over SSH. This has the advantage that port 22 is usually not blocked. Of not, you could always email the developers, explain your situation and see if they will post a recent CVS snapshot to their webpage or email you the tarball. -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://familiasanchez.net/~sanchezr pgpR3bDCMjifu.pgp Description: PGP signature
CVS checkout behind firewall proxy
Hi All, I'm trying to do a cvs checkout from a debian beast on the company network but get the error. cvs [login aborted]: connect to cvs.digium.com(66.250.69.240):2401 failed: No route to host I'm connected to the internet via a proxy firewall. Does this imply specific ports required by cvs are closed? Can cvs use the http port number? How else can I get to use cvs from behind a firewall? I've read about cvs-proxy but it seems to do a totally different thing. Shall appreciate your assitance. -- Thanks and regards, Alphonse, Nairobi, Kenya.
Re: Slow Firefox performance on P4 1.7 GHz 1 GB system
On Sunday 29 May 2005 12:30, Ionut Georgescu wrote: > Well, I don't think it is the X only. Take Opera. On Linux it is much > faster than Firefox. Except that it lacks freedom, the main feature many of us are using Linux for in the first place. Konqueror is real fast, if you want a Firefox alternative. -- Lee. Please do not CC replies directly to me. I'll read them on the list. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problems with VIA serial ATA RAID Driver
On Sun, 2005-05-29 at 14:55 +0300, Master Millenium wrote: > When I try to install Debian, it says that it can't find my hard drive. I > have a Maxtor 7 Y250M0 SCSI Disk Device (233 GB) that I have splitted in two > pieces. I had the same problem with WinXP but I fixed it by giving the SATA > Driver Disk. The problem is I can't use the disk with Debian because it only > supports Windows. Can somebody help me with this problem? I want Debian on > my computer! By the way, I'm going to keep WinXP on so called C and install > Debian on so called D. > Hello Master :-) I think it has been previosuly suggested on this list to use the sarge installer with the 2.6 kernel (press F1 on boot to see how to do that). Cheers, Ionut -- *** * Ionut Georgescu * Max-Plank-Institut für Physik komplexer Systeme * Nöthnitzer Str. 38 * D-01187 Dresden * * Tel: +49 (351) 871-1109 * Fax: +49 (351) 871-1999 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Slow Firefox performance on P4 1.7 GHz 1 GB system
On Sun, 2005-05-29 at 04:07 -0300, Rogério Brito wrote: > On May 28 2005, Josh Rehman wrote: > > While I do not share this same problem, > > Don't you see the problem while scrolling www.macslash.org? What about > scrolling a page with many comments, in flat mode? And what about the same > thing done in slashdot.org? Do you see any difference in speed? > > Where is your Firefox/Mozilla from? And which processor do you have? > > I am quite interested in what others see before I file a bug report. > > Well, I don't think it is the X only. Take Opera. On Linux it is much faster than Firefox. Ionut -- *** * Ionut Georgescu * Max-Plank-Institut für Physik komplexer Systeme * Nöthnitzer Str. 38 * D-01187 Dresden * * Tel: +49 (351) 871-1109 * Fax: +49 (351) 871-1999 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: mailing list archive bug?
On Sat, May 28, 2005 at 11:49:41PM +0100, Adam Hardy wrote: > Has anyone else noticed that the mailing list search engine will return > zero results if you select zero max-lines-per-msg? > > I presume I'm not misinterpreting the option and it should just return > message titles? The search page http://lists.debian.org/search.html says: "Max lines per message Selecting zero will return message titles only." So your interpretation seems correct. I don't see any results either, so it looks like a bug. You may want to file a bug to the listarchives pseudopackage: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=listarchives -- Maurits van Rees | http://maurits.vanrees.org/ [Dutch/Nederlands] Public GnuPG key: keyserver.net ID 0x1735C5C2 "Let your advance worrying become advance thinking and planning." - Winston Churchill signature.asc Description: Digital signature
HP 3325 Inkjet on Sarge
Hi list, I am facing problems installing my HP printer (make 3325 inkjet). I have done the following - [EMAIL PROTECTED] apt-get install hplip Added a printer on the web based interface at http://localhost:631/ Stopped and restarted cupsd. lspci does not show a usb printer. The dmesg has some entry (which I am not sure of :-() [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dmesg | grep usb usb.c: registered new driver usbdevfs usb.c: registered new driver hub usb-uhci.c: $Revision: 1.275 $ time 11:16:14 Jan 20 2005 usb-uhci.c: High bandwidth mode enabled usb-uhci.c: USB UHCI at I/O 0xe800, IRQ 16 usb-uhci.c: Detected 2 ports usb.c: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 1 usb-uhci.c: USB UHCI at I/O 0xe880, IRQ 19 usb-uhci.c: Detected 2 ports usb.c: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 2 usb-uhci.c: USB UHCI at I/O 0xec00, IRQ 18 usb-uhci.c: Detected 2 ports usb.c: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 3 usb-uhci.c: v1.275:USB Universal Host Controller Interface driver usb.c: registered new driver usbkbd usbkbd.c: :USB HID Boot Protocol keyboard driver usb.c: registered new driver usblp printer.c: usblp0: USB Bidirectional printer dev 2 if 0 alt 0 proto 2 vid 0x03F0 pid 0x7004 The proc/devices does show usb device and lp [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat /proc/devices Character devices: 1 mem 2 pty/m%d 3 pty/s%d 4 tts/%d 5 cua/%d 6 lp 7 vcs 10 misc 13 input 14 sound 29 fb 116 alsa 128 ptm 136 pts/%d 162 raw 180 usb 226 drm Block devices: 1 ramdisk 3 ide0 The hp probe utility is working - [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ hp-probe HP Linux Imaging and Printing System (ver. 0.9.2) Device Detection (Probe) Utility ver. 1.1 Copyright (c) 2003-5 Hewlett-Packard Development Company, LP This software comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY. This is free software, and you are welcome to distribute it under certain conditions. See COPYING file for more details. Device URI Model --- hp:/usb/deskjet_3320?serial=TH2A4221F84I HP deskjet_3320 The printer gets configured properly using hp-toolbox. I have also added the usb -> printer modules using modconf. The problem is when I try to print a test page, the printer is unresponsive. Using the web interface the error shown is - client-error-not-possible Any clues?? Shatam
Problems with VIA serial ATA RAID Driver
When I try to install Debian, it says that it can't find my hard drive. I have a Maxtor 7 Y250M0 SCSI Disk Device (233 GB) that I have splitted in two pieces. I had the same problem with WinXP but I fixed it by giving the SATA Driver Disk. The problem is I can't use the disk with Debian because it only supports Windows. Can somebody help me with this problem? I want Debian on my computer! By the way, I'm going to keep WinXP on so called C and install Debian on so called D. _ Don't just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Non-US packages in Sarge
Amira Youssef wrote: > Hello, > > I can't find the option to install Sarge from Non-US mirror site. > I'm afraid that the available packages has some Export restriction from USA. > > Do you've an idea where is the non-us CD-iso for Sarge? non-us is no longe usefull. Look at: http://lists.debian.org/debian-release/2005/05/msg01163.html and at http://lists.debian.org/debian-release/2005/05/msg01354.html Greets, Martin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: cd player blocks the soundcard for xmms
On 29/05/05 00:18 Adam Majer wrote: >>I searched the mailing list and saw quite a few people with the opposite problem, but for me, I can play CDs happily but doing so blocks the soundcard for XMMS and I can only free it up by rebooting. My soundcard is otherwise configured fine and plays sounds for most things I've tried - mp3s, DVDs etc. Any hints? Config below You you running ALSA or OSS? What kernel are you running? Can you play multiple streams at the same time? I'm really not sure. I played around a bit more with XMMS and realised that my problem is actually restricted to totem. In XMMS I chose the 'eSound Output Plugin' and XMMS works fine now, and in fact the sound driver mixes CD, XMMS and system noises perfectly. In fact, when totem is having problems, then I just start XMMS and totem will be OK again. So it's just totem. And it seems that I am using neither ALSA nor OSS, according to the output plugins in XMMS. Is that so? Where in my config do I check what is going on? When I do lsmod |grep snd I get quite a few modules listed: snd_intel8x0 33068 0 snd_ac97_codec 59268 1 snd_intel8x0 snd_pcm85384 1 snd_intel8x0 snd_timer 23172 1 snd_pcm snd_page_alloc 11144 2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm snd_mpu401_uart 7296 1 snd_intel8x0 snd_rawmidi23204 1 snd_mpu401_uart snd_seq_device 7944 1 snd_rawmidi snd50660 7 snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device gameport4736 2 snd_intel8x0,analog soundcore 9824 4 snd,i810_audio -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: update to dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 advisable for wheel mouse [was: mouse scroll...]
On 29/05/05 05:55 Jonathan Kaye wrote: |> Ok I will reveal all and hide nothing from you ;-) |> I'm running Sarge 2.6.8. Yup, definitely a ps/2 mouse. I don't know what |> dmesg is on about with USB. You've got something about a serial port? |> Anyway my XF86Config-4 looks like this: |> # Identifier and driver |> |> ~Identifier"Mouse1" |> ~Driver "mouse" |> ~Option "Protocol" "ImPS/2" |> ~Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" |> ~Option "Device" "/dev/psaux" |> EndSection | | Answer: | | Option "Protocol" "ExplorerPS/2" | | Finally found that solution! | | i think the choices in 'dpkg-reconfigure' for xserver-xfree86 needs to | be extended to cover this for the benefit of other wheelmouse users. | | there is also the option "protocol" "auto" which isn't offered either. That's great Adam! I found this link which may be of use to others. What do you think? http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Mouse_Scrollwheel Yes I'm sure it all helps. My mouse is just a simple logitech mouse - only 5 buttons - in that link they are talking about the 6th & 7th buttons! Who knows what you would use them for. Adam -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Non-US packages in Sarge
Hello, I can't find the option to install Sarge from Non-US mirror site. I'm afraid that the available packages has some Export restriction from USA. Do you've an idea where is the non-us CD-iso for Sarge? Thanks & Rgds, Amira.__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Frozen Sarge?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 En/La Rogério Brito ha escrit, a 29/05/05 09:13: | On May 29 2005, Jonathan Kaye wrote: | |>Today I got 77 updates to installed packages and I update 4-5 times a |>week. | | | I update my system every day and today the most conspicuous upgrade was | that X was upgraded with some security fixes. I don't think that the | developers are rushing to get the updates now. | | I do think that they were in the pipeline for settling things --- oh, and | the "release date" for sarge is the 30th of May, but I don't really know if | it will be possible to declare sarge the new stable tomorrow. | Thanks for the info, Adam and Rogério. As always debian.user is the best source of information. This list is one of the best reasons for using debian. Cheers guys -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCmXZv64+f0AXUe+4RAiVBAKCJvRTWIMbWbsaxUtlPZ93xLxNFqQCfUhyJ 2VtXP3bz6X5dZdoFOIj8nl8= =4ntM -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Frozen Sarge?
On May 29 2005, Jonathan Kaye wrote: > Today I got 77 updates to installed packages and I update 4-5 times a > week. I update my system every day and today the most conspicuous upgrade was that X was upgraded with some security fixes. I don't think that the developers are rushing to get the updates now. I do think that they were in the pipeline for settling things --- oh, and the "release date" for sarge is the 30th of May, but I don't really know if it will be possible to declare sarge the new stable tomorrow. -- Rogério Brito : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Homepage of the algorithms package : http://algorithms.berlios.de Homepage on freshmeat: http://freshmeat.net/projects/algorithms/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Slow Firefox performance on P4 1.7 GHz 1 GB system
On May 28 2005, Josh Rehman wrote: > While I do not share this same problem, Don't you see the problem while scrolling www.macslash.org? What about scrolling a page with many comments, in flat mode? And what about the same thing done in slashdot.org? Do you see any difference in speed? Where is your Firefox/Mozilla from? And which processor do you have? I am quite interested in what others see before I file a bug report. Thanks in advance, Rogério Brito. -- Rogério Brito : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Homepage of the algorithms package : http://algorithms.berlios.de Homepage on freshmeat: http://freshmeat.net/projects/algorithms/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Slow Firefox performance on P4 1.7 GHz 1 GB system
On May 28 2005, Carl Fink wrote: > Suspicion: the version of X you're using isn't as accelerated as Windows > XP's driver. I don't suppose you're about to install X.Org? I'm using a Matrox G400 here. I suspect that there isn't much to optimize for this card. BTW, the version of Windows that I have here is an evaluation version of "Windows 2000 Server" (it's trial period is terminating) and the X that I am using is Debian's (from testing). Hope this clarifies, Rogério Brito. -- Rogério Brito : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Homepage of the algorithms package : http://algorithms.berlios.de Homepage on freshmeat: http://freshmeat.net/projects/algorithms/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Slow Firefox performance scrolling macslash.org (was: Re: Slow Firefox performance on P4 1.7 GHz 1 GB system)
On May 28 2005, Marty wrote: > The difference is measurable, not subjective. I don't even have to measure in my system to see that there's something wrong: the difference is really drastic here. Slashdot, which you mention as a similar-looking page, is fast, but I don't think that that's the right comparison, because even thought the "looks" are similar, their code might not be. On the other hand, the puzzling thing is that macslash.org is quite slow under Linux, while it is much faster in Windows, with the same versions of Firefox (yes, the Windows version was taken from Mozilla.org and the Linux version was taken from Debian). Perhaps there's a difference in optimizations used during compilation or, say, the GTK 2 is really slow and macslash.org "forces" Firefox to use more widgets than slashdot.org? I sincerely don't know, but surely this is confusing as we both discovered. Thanks for taking the time to verify "the phenomenon", Rogério. -- Rogério Brito : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Homepage of the algorithms package : http://algorithms.berlios.de Homepage on freshmeat: http://freshmeat.net/projects/algorithms/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Slow Firefox performance on P4 1.7 GHz 1 GB system
On May 28 2005, Jacob S wrote: > Yea, or even compare window managers. My sistem is quite minimal here. I use fluxbox without any bells and whistles (I use the Minimal Style, since, as I said, my box is not that powerful). -- Rogério Brito : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Homepage of the algorithms package : http://algorithms.berlios.de Homepage on freshmeat: http://freshmeat.net/projects/algorithms/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Slow Firefox performance on P4 1.7 GHz 1 GB system
On May 28 2005, Jacob S wrote:
> On Sat, 28 May 2005 19:31:00 -0400
> Marty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Rogério Brito wrote:
> > > Indeed. One thing that has puzzled me is that scrolling in
> > > www.macslash.org
> > > is simply *slow* on my system while I am using Debian.
> >
> > I see it too. Not only that, but the PageDown key seems to work
> > incorrectly.
>
> Are ya'll using unstable? If so, I'll make sure not to upgrade.
No, I'm using testing/sarge. I have no extensions installed. My Firefox is
from Debian's repository. Even with a clean installation/new user.
BTW, I am obsessive with things being clean and I delete all my cookies,
cache, *{rdf,dat} files etc under Firefox's directory after each session so
that my backups are smaller. The only things that I keep are my bookmarks
and my preferences.
I don't know exactly what makes that site slow under Firefox/Linux, but
absolutely normal under Firefox/Windows, but it is quite strange, to say
the least.
I have already thought of downloading Firefox's sources and enabling insane
compilation switches, just to see if it would be slightly faster.
Please bear in mind that my processor is a Duron 600MHz and people with GHz
processors may not see the slowdowns that those using more modest hardware
see.
Anyway, I am really interested in seeing if others see the same slow
behaviour that I see with that site (while scrolling the page -- something
that doesn't happen on, say, slashdot.org).
Thanks for your reports, Rogério.
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Re: Frozen Sarge?
Jonathan Kaye wrote: > Hi all, > I know that Sarge has been "frozen" for a while now but updates keep > coming in. Today I got 77 updates to installed packages and I update 4-5 > times a week. Are these updates that were already in the pipeline and > the package maintainers are pushing them through to get them into the > official stable release? Release Critical bugs are getting fixed. There are no more new versions except for some bug fixes. Even normal bugs are no longer fixed for Sarge. The latest Sarge release report is at, http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2005/05/msg00020.html according to which release is a week away. - Adam -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
