Re: Installing Sarge -- Any reason to wait?

[Rick Taylor]

On Mon, 2005-05-30 at 17:16 -0400, Hal Vaughan wrote:
> I'm not worried about more updates.  I expect that.  I just want to be sure 
> that it is already being treated like stable -- i.e. I can count on updates 
> not breaking anything.

I've been running it for months. Nothing's broken yet. It seems fine to
me.
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Re: MySQL Performance Woody Vs Sarge

[Simon]

Jacob S wrote:


What does 'hdparm' return for the RAID drive on each server when you
don't give it any options (ie. 'hdparm /dev/hda')? You might also
include the same output for hdparm run each of the hard drives used
to make the array. 


What are the specs on the hard drives/RAID setup on both servers?
Are they hardware raid or software raid?


Both software RAID 0, both use Promise 2 channel PCI cards, Hard
Drives  are IBM deskstar(?) 7200 40GB.



live: # hdparm /dev/md0


  ^
  Woody
  faster



/dev/md0:
 readonly =  0 (off)
 readahead= 256 (on)
 geometry = 25248/2/4, sectors = 80418048, start = 0



dev: hdparm /dev/md0


  
  Sarge
  slower 



/dev/md0:
 BLKROGET failed: Invalid argument
 geometry = 23632/2/4, sectors = 80405120, start = 0


Jacob - Nearly Right:

woody(dev) = faster (Linux version 2.4.18-bf2.4):

# hdparm /dev/md0
/dev/md0:
 BLKROGET failed: Invalid argument
 geometry = 23632/2/4, sectors = 80405120, start = 0

The above raid consists of:

# hdparm /dev/hde

/dev/hde:
 multcount=  0 (off)
 I/O support  =  0 (default 16-bit)
 unmaskirq=  0 (off)
 using_dma=  1 (on)
 keepsettings =  0 (off)
 nowerr   =  0 (off)
 readonly =  0 (off)
 readahead=  8 (on)
 geometry = 5005/255/63, sectors = 80418240, start = 0
 busstate =  1 (on)

# hdparm /dev/hdg

/dev/hdg:
 multcount=  0 (off)
 I/O support  =  0 (default 16-bit)
 unmaskirq=  0 (off)
 using_dma=  1 (on)
 keepsettings =  0 (off)
 nowerr   =  0 (off)
 readonly =  0 (off)
 readahead=  8 (on)
 geometry = 79780/16/63, sectors = 80418240, start = 0
 busstate =  1 (on)


sarge(production) = slower (Linux version 2.6.8-2-k7):

# hdparm /dev/md0
/dev/md0:
 readonly =  0 (off)
 readahead= 256 (on)
 geometry = 25248/2/4, sectors = 80418048, start = 0

The above raid consists of:

# hdparm /dev/hde

/dev/hde:
 multcount=  0 (off)
 IO_support   =  0 (default 16-bit)
 unmaskirq=  0 (off)
 using_dma=  1 (on)
 keepsettings =  0 (off)
 readonly =  0 (off)
 readahead= 256 (on)
 geometry = 65535/16/63, sectors = 80418240, start = 0

# hdparm /dev/hdg

/dev/hdg:
 multcount=  0 (off)
 IO_support   =  0 (default 16-bit)
 unmaskirq=  0 (off)
 using_dma=  1 (on)
 keepsettings =  0 (off)
 readonly =  0 (off)
 readahead= 256 (on)
 geometry = 65535/16/63, sectors = 80418240, start = 0


[Cc'ed back to the debian-user list, as I'm sure there are people that
know more about this than I do. :-)]

What is the kernel version on each server? Are they both using the same
kernel module for the Promise controller? I'm getting the two boxes
confused... let me know if my notes above are correct.


See above.


The md0 devices should consist of two /dev/hd* devices. Please show
hdparm output for them as well.


See above.


I'm grasping at straws a little bit, as the results aren't what I first
expected (unless I'm mixing previous facts about the servers). But maybe
somebody else here will have some more clues.


Thanks
Simon


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Re: MySQL Performance Woody Vs Sarge

[Simon]

Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:


Step 1.  Switch to Postgres.



Life's far too short to waste time reading replies like that.



Why.  I was serious.  He has a database that is approaching 1 million
records.  MySQL simply does not perform as well with large databases.
Thus, the most logical thing to do to increase performance of the
database is to switch to a better one.

Now, other folks in this thread have suggested potential hardware
tweaks.  If those work, then great.  If not, then I think the next best
thing to do for performance is to use a DB that was designed to handle
larger amounts of data like that.


Well we have woody running on a 1GHz compaq server box with 1GB of RAM 
and the database has over 4million records in one table alone.. It runs 
fine. A record looks up, within 1 second.


So i KNOW that its not MySQL which is the problem. Also you might note 
that one server (with Mysql) is running fine, where as the other server 
(with MySQL) is not. These servers both have the same data with nearly 
1million records. So again. Not Mysql's problem.






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Re: Problems seeing USB mp3 player... any help?

[Paul Smith]

%% Carl Fink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

  >> According to everything I can find, you don't need any special
  >> drivers.  For example, it says that in Windows >98SE you don't need
  >> to install anything, it just works.

  >> Because of this, I'm ass-u-me-ing it uses a standard filesystem/etc.

  cf> Seemingly not so.  Presumably that just means Windows ships with the
  cf> appropriate driver. 

  cf> However:

  cf> http://www.world.co.uk/sba/ravemp.html

  cf> 
http://rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/redhat/6.2/cpan/i386/perl-Audio-RaveMP-0.04-6.i386.html
  cf> http://sourceforge.net/projects/ravempgui/

  cf> This stuff looks pretty obsolete.

  cf> None appear to be packaged for Debian.  At least one other effort
  cf> seems to have been abandoned due to DMCA fears.

Thanks for looking Carl; all of the links above are for the RaveMP 2100,
which is a _way_ old mp3 player that uses a parallel port (!)
connection, not USB.

I can easily imagine that a parallel port connection would utilize
proprietary protocols since there aren't any standard ones.  I'd be more
surprised for these new, USB-based devices to require proprietary
drivers.


Did you find anything newer, related to the new Rave MP 128/256/512
sport mp3 players?  I couldn't find anything.  I'm going to ask on the
linux-usb-users mailing list to see if they have any ideas.

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Re: (SOLVED) Unable to properly install 2 packages

[Marty]

J.F.Gratton wrote:

Marty has been a good help to help me reinstall the guile-1.6 package,
but I could not remove it either since the postrm script was corrupted,
too. Here's a way I thought of to force apt to reinstall a package you
think might have been corrupted along the install process.

apt-get autoclean ; apt-get -d --reinstal $PACKAGE_NAME ;
cd /var/cache/apt/archives ; dpkg -i --force-all $PACKAGE_FILE.

One caveat : I'm assuming here that the source of your problem was some
kind of corruption and that the package would install properly (no
dependencies problems, etc) in normal times; the --force-all might be a
bit risky otherwise.

-- J.F. (Jeff)


You could probably just replace the postrm script with something like
"exit 0" and them purge and reinstall it again.

You probably already know about debsums to verify all my installed
packages.  (I use it with the -generate=all option against my local
archive mirror, although that's probably overkill.)  I suspect that
debsums should verify all your install scripts too.


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Re: Possibility of personalizing OpenOffice documents automatically?

[Kevin Mark]

On Tue, May 31, 2005 at 12:36:51PM +0200, Hervé Piedvache wrote:
> On Tuesday 31 May 2005 12:08, Lee Braiden wrote:
> > On Tuesday 31 May 2005 11:06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > No I want the operators to not be able to modify the original document
> > > ... And to have only a main administrator of the documents ...
> > > It's a kind of contact center, where people manage phone calls and for
> > > each call they will attribute to the customer a status ... and this
> > > status will produce a postal mail ... to be generated immediatly or by
> > > batch at the end of the day ... all the mail will be printed and put in
> > > wrap to be posted !
> > >
> > > It's clearer ? ;o)
> >
> > The usual way to do this sort of thing would be with a webserver running on
> > your intranet, which is linked to a database, and keeps a list of your
> > customers.  Staff can then pull up a webpage, click a button, and have the
> > server generate reports.
> 
> Yes ... marvelous ... but with what kind of tool do you manage the production 
> of the mail ? 
> Yes It'll be a web application .. no problem for this ... but I want to 
> manage 
> about 100 mail style sheet ... and be able to do the redaction of thoses mail 
> easily ... and then have a system to produce them in file and print them ...
> 
> So how to do that ?
> 
Hi Hervé,
openoffice document are gzip'd xml documents with a simple markup. you
can un-gzip the docuemtns and process them with any xml tools.
Cheers,
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Re: fortune bug ?

[Kevin Mark]

On Tue, May 31, 2005 at 08:15:52PM +0200, Aurélien Campéas wrote:
> Le mardi 31 mai 2005 à 16:09 +0200, Aurélien Campéas a écrit :
> [...]
> > a lot of crap here, but look at the last stat64 syscalls near the end :
> > it looks like a bug related to localisation (fortune tries to open a
> > file named "fr_FR.UTF ..." instead of a real file). Indeed for this
> > system I had the funny idea to ask for encoding of all files in UTF-8
> > instead of iso-latin-1 as I usually do.
> 
> 
> So, am I the only one out there that uses UTF8-something as default
> encoding for filenames ?
> 
> Aurélien.
> 

Hi,
maybe run the command prefixed with LANG= or LANGUAGE= or LC_ALL= 
LC_ALL=en_US fortune

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Re: Problems seeing USB mp3 player... any help?

[Carl Fink]

On Tue, May 31, 2005 at 09:31:47PM -0400, Paul Smith wrote:

> http://www.rave-mp.com/ProductInfo.aspx?productid=AMP256

> According to everything I can find, you don't need any special drivers.
> For example, it says that in Windows >98SE you don't need to install
> anything, it just works.
> 
> Because of this, I'm ass-u-me-ing it uses a standard filesystem/etc.

Seemingly not so.  Presumably that just means Windows ships with the
appropriate driver. 

However:

http://www.world.co.uk/sba/ravemp.html

http://rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/redhat/6.2/cpan/i386/perl-Audio-RaveMP-0.04-6.i386.html
(presumably obtainable directly from CPAN but that's the first link my
search found)

http://sourceforge.net/projects/ravempgui/

This stuff looks pretty obsolete.

None appear to be packaged for Debian.  At least one other effort seems to
have been abandoned due to DMCA fears.
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Re: Unable to properly install 2 packages

[=?iso-8859-1?Q?Rog=E9rio?= Brito]

On May 31 2005, J.F.Gratton wrote:
> I never took any time to delve into the innards of the install system on
> Debian since I never had any problems. Well, tonite is the nite ! :)

I would suggest that you run fsck on the involved filesystems. It may find
other corruptions. I would stop using the system *now*, if I were you.

Use something like (as root):

shutdown -F -r now


Hope this helps, Rogério Brito.

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Re: Latex Q - page number appears on pg 1 with empty pagestyle

[=?iso-8859-1?Q?Rog=E9rio?= Brito]

On May 31 2005, Christiane Reher wrote:
> Try this \addtocounter{page}{-1}
> This worked for me!

I think that the proper/clean way to avoid numbers on the first page is to
issue the command:

\thispagestyle{empty}

right before the contents of what will be in the first page.


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Re: (SOLVED) Unable to properly install 2 packages

[J.F.Gratton]

Marty has been a good help to help me reinstall the guile-1.6 package,
but I could not remove it either since the postrm script was corrupted,
too. Here's a way I thought of to force apt to reinstall a package you
think might have been corrupted along the install process.

apt-get autoclean ; apt-get -d --reinstal $PACKAGE_NAME ;
cd /var/cache/apt/archives ; dpkg -i --force-all $PACKAGE_FILE.

One caveat : I'm assuming here that the source of your problem was some
kind of corruption and that the package would install properly (no
dependencies problems, etc) in normal times; the --force-all might be a
bit risky otherwise.

-- J.F. (Jeff)


On Tue, 2005-31-05 at 22:13 -0400, J.F.Gratton wrote:
> Marty, thank you !
> 
> I clobbered my clunky version of guile-1.6.postinst with the one you
> supplied, and voila.
> 
> I never took any time to delve into the innards of the install system on
> Debian since I never had any problems. Well, tonite is the nite ! :)
> 
> Thanks for getting me out of this predicament.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Jeff
> 
> On Tue, 2005-31-05 at 22:01 -0400, Marty wrote:
> > J.F.Gratton wrote:
> > > On Tue, 2005-31-05 at 21:24 -0400, Marty wrote:
> > >> J.F.Gratton wrote:
> > >> [snip snip]
> > >> > Setting up guile-1.6 (1.6.7-1) ...
> > >> > dpkg (subprocess): unable to execute post-installation script: Exec
> > >> > format error
> > >> > dpkg: error processing guile-1.6 (--configure):
> > >> >  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2
> > >> 
> > >> That script would be /var/lib/dpkg/info/guile-1.6.postinst
> > > 
> > > OK, here's a start. 'cept that the file looks some kind of informational
> > > file used by apt/dpkg, *not* a script file or anything
> > 
> > Oh my. That's bad!
> > 
> >   (at the bottom of
> > > this message you'll have the contents of the file.
> > 
> > Well, I don't see it down there, but here ar the contents of my version:
> > 
> > --
> > #!/bin/sh
> > 
> > set -e
> > 
> > if [ "$1" != "upgrade" ] ; then
> >  update-alternatives \
> >--install /usr/bin/guile guile /usr/bin/guile-1.6 160 \
> >--slave /usr/bin/guile-config guile-config /usr/bin/guile-1.6-config 
> > \
> >--slave /usr/bin/guile-snarf guile-snarf /usr/bin/guile-1.6-snarf \
> >--slave /usr/bin/guile-tools guile-tools /usr/bin/guile-1.6-tools
> > fi
> > 
> > # Automatically added by dh_installmenu
> > if [ "$1" = "configure" ] && [ -x /usr/bin/update-menus ]; then 
> > update-menus ; fi
> > # End automatically added section
> > ---
> > 
> > Looks like something got clobbered in your installation attempt.
> > 
> > > 
> > >> If it exists and is uncorrupted, then you can try to debug it manually,
> > >> or else just try purging the package and starting over again.
> > > 
> > > As the file does not contain any commands, I don't see anything to
> > > debug.
> > > 
> > > My question remains, then:
> > > 
> > >> > 
> > >> > How do I get out of the "Exec format error" ?
> > >> > 
> > >> > On a related topic : is there a way to make apt "forget" a package,
> > >> > and/or completely purge it from the disk, its installed packages list,
> > >> > etc ? Just so I'd be able to reinstall it or a newer version sometime
> > >> > later ?
> > >> 
> > >> dpkg -P 
> > > 
> > > OK, OK, my question was poorly phrased :). I've been using Deb for
> > > now... 4-5 years, so hopefully I know about dpkg :) What I meant to ask
> > > is how do I completely dump a package (manually remove all traces of it)
> > > when apt-get remove and dpkg -P fail ? My problem with guile is not only
> > > when I try to install it, but also when I try to remove/purge the
> > > package.
> > 
> > The only thing that comes to mind is dlocate or cruft.  Maybe others have
> > better suggestions.
> > 
> > 
> >   You see, I had a power failure when dist-upgrading my system.
> > 
> > Yep.  That could easily explain it.  :-)
> > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Thanks again,
> > > 
> > > Jeff
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 


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Re: Need help converting Quicktime/MOV to DVD

[Paul Stolp]

* Scott Ehrlich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-05-31 20:45]:
> I captured home video from a Sony camcorder to my G3 running 10.3 via
> iMovie.   I then used iMovie to convert the captured files to MOV -
> averaging 12 - 13 gig per file.
> 
> I now want to perform the final step of burning the MOV files to DVD.
> 
> I tried doing this with Roxio Toast 6 Lite but its encoder was so horrible
> the resulting video on DVD was horrendous.   I tried one burn to test
> timing and quality.   I have since learned I probably need to convert the
> MOV files to MPEG2, and then to DVD format?   My G3 is too underpowered
> and my budget cannot affort the expense of testing various utilities for
> 10.3 to see whether or not they might work.
> 
> What is the best way under Debian to:
> 
> - Prepare the MOV files for DVD?
> 
> - Burn the resulting files to DVD?
> 
> 
> I have a Pentium II with 384 Meg RAM and a Pentium III with 384 Meg RAM.
> Ample disk space on both.


Scott, I'm not sure how long it'll take, but on my PII
400 w/320 Meg RAM, it takes about 8 hours to transcode
390 megabyte divx to 50 minutes of DVD. I have no idea
how the long the MOV files will take. I do know you
will get better results if you can use the original
source file vs. the MOV. The best resource I found for
this type of task is:
http://mightylegends.zapto.org/dvd/dvdauthor_howto.php

This resource has been invaluable to me, and works
well, though it is quite painstaking to follow. Hope
this helps, and I think you should plan on using the
PIII if you can!
Paul


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Re: No .jigdo files

[Marc Wilson]

On Tue, May 31, 2005 at 11:57:09AM -0400, Sebastian Canagaratna wrote:
>   For the last two weeks or so, the debian-unofficial site at ftp.fsn.hu
>   gives only the .iso files. There is a jigdo folder, but no .jigdo
>   files there.

And you don't ask the administrators of fsn.hu why they stopped providing
the unofficial files *they* were generating... why?

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Re: Unable to properly install 2 packages

[J.F.Gratton]

Marty, thank you !

I clobbered my clunky version of guile-1.6.postinst with the one you
supplied, and voila.

I never took any time to delve into the innards of the install system on
Debian since I never had any problems. Well, tonite is the nite ! :)

Thanks for getting me out of this predicament.

Regards,

Jeff

On Tue, 2005-31-05 at 22:01 -0400, Marty wrote:
> J.F.Gratton wrote:
> > On Tue, 2005-31-05 at 21:24 -0400, Marty wrote:
> >> J.F.Gratton wrote:
> >> [snip snip]
> >> > Setting up guile-1.6 (1.6.7-1) ...
> >> > dpkg (subprocess): unable to execute post-installation script: Exec
> >> > format error
> >> > dpkg: error processing guile-1.6 (--configure):
> >> >  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2
> >> 
> >> That script would be /var/lib/dpkg/info/guile-1.6.postinst
> > 
> > OK, here's a start. 'cept that the file looks some kind of informational
> > file used by apt/dpkg, *not* a script file or anything
> 
> Oh my. That's bad!
> 
>   (at the bottom of
> > this message you'll have the contents of the file.
> 
> Well, I don't see it down there, but here ar the contents of my version:
> 
> --
> #!/bin/sh
> 
> set -e
> 
> if [ "$1" != "upgrade" ] ; then
>  update-alternatives \
>--install /usr/bin/guile guile /usr/bin/guile-1.6 160 \
>--slave /usr/bin/guile-config guile-config /usr/bin/guile-1.6-config \
>--slave /usr/bin/guile-snarf guile-snarf /usr/bin/guile-1.6-snarf \
>--slave /usr/bin/guile-tools guile-tools /usr/bin/guile-1.6-tools
> fi
> 
> # Automatically added by dh_installmenu
> if [ "$1" = "configure" ] && [ -x /usr/bin/update-menus ]; then update-menus 
> ; fi
> # End automatically added section
> ---
> 
> Looks like something got clobbered in your installation attempt.
> 
> > 
> >> If it exists and is uncorrupted, then you can try to debug it manually,
> >> or else just try purging the package and starting over again.
> > 
> > As the file does not contain any commands, I don't see anything to
> > debug.
> > 
> > My question remains, then:
> > 
> >> > 
> >> > How do I get out of the "Exec format error" ?
> >> > 
> >> > On a related topic : is there a way to make apt "forget" a package,
> >> > and/or completely purge it from the disk, its installed packages list,
> >> > etc ? Just so I'd be able to reinstall it or a newer version sometime
> >> > later ?
> >> 
> >> dpkg -P 
> > 
> > OK, OK, my question was poorly phrased :). I've been using Deb for
> > now... 4-5 years, so hopefully I know about dpkg :) What I meant to ask
> > is how do I completely dump a package (manually remove all traces of it)
> > when apt-get remove and dpkg -P fail ? My problem with guile is not only
> > when I try to install it, but also when I try to remove/purge the
> > package.
> 
> The only thing that comes to mind is dlocate or cruft.  Maybe others have
> better suggestions.
> 
> 
>   You see, I had a power failure when dist-upgrading my system.
> 
> Yep.  That could easily explain it.  :-)
> 
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks again,
> > 
> > Jeff
> > 
> > 
> 
> 


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ion2 + x2vnc + multiple workspaces = possible?

[Stefhen Hovland]

Hi,

I just started using ion2 on my home laptop. I would also like to be
able to use it at work while using x2vnc to connect to my windows box
which I am forced to also use. I can't stand working in just one
workspace, so I usually have about three workspaces minimum at all
times to separate my shells, firefox instances, cplay window, etc..

But it looks like when I start an instance of x2vnc in workspace one,
and then i switch to workspace two, my mouse and keyboard movements
are not passed over to my windows box, it effectively doesnt "see"
x2vnc running in any other instances than the one it was started in. I
do not know if there is a way to share this x2vnc session over all
workspaces, or if this is an inherit limitation in design, in that all
workspaces are separate entities and cannot share this type of
information. Anyone else encounter this and know if there is a
solution?

Thanks,
Stefhen

Re: Problems seeing USB mp3 player... any help?

[Paul Smith]

%% Carl Fink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

  cf> On Tue, May 31, 2005 at 05:05:21PM -0400, Paul Smith wrote:
  >> My wife bought me a Rage MP 256M MP3 player for my birthday.

  cf> I can't find a reference to this player in Google.  Could you post the
  cf> manufacturer and model number?

Gak!  s/Rage/Rave/

http://www.rave-mp.com/ProductInfo.aspx?productid=AMP256

Sorry 'bout that.


According to everything I can find, you don't need any special drivers.
For example, it says that in Windows >98SE you don't need to install
anything, it just works.

Because of this, I'm ass-u-me-ing it uses a standard filesystem/etc.

>From my reading of the errors I get it doesn't even seem to get that
far... it can't even recognize the device much less start trying to
mount filesystems or whatever.

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source for xvkbd

[hja]

hi,
i have searched thro' package dir and file for source of 'xvkbd, but
found none. Have I done right? Or it is not available at all?

Cheers
hja123


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Re: Unable to properly install 2 packages

[Marty]

J.F.Gratton wrote:

On Tue, 2005-31-05 at 21:24 -0400, Marty wrote:

J.F.Gratton wrote:
[snip snip]
> Setting up guile-1.6 (1.6.7-1) ...
> dpkg (subprocess): unable to execute post-installation script: Exec
> format error
> dpkg: error processing guile-1.6 (--configure):
>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2

That script would be /var/lib/dpkg/info/guile-1.6.postinst


OK, here's a start. 'cept that the file looks some kind of informational
file used by apt/dpkg, *not* a script file or anything


Oh my. That's bad!

 (at the bottom of

this message you'll have the contents of the file.


Well, I don't see it down there, but here ar the contents of my version:

--
#!/bin/sh

set -e

if [ "$1" != "upgrade" ] ; then
update-alternatives \
  --install /usr/bin/guile guile /usr/bin/guile-1.6 160 \
  --slave /usr/bin/guile-config guile-config /usr/bin/guile-1.6-config \
  --slave /usr/bin/guile-snarf guile-snarf /usr/bin/guile-1.6-snarf \
  --slave /usr/bin/guile-tools guile-tools /usr/bin/guile-1.6-tools
fi

# Automatically added by dh_installmenu
if [ "$1" = "configure" ] && [ -x /usr/bin/update-menus ]; then update-menus ; 
fi
# End automatically added section
---

Looks like something got clobbered in your installation attempt.




If it exists and is uncorrupted, then you can try to debug it manually,
or else just try purging the package and starting over again.


As the file does not contain any commands, I don't see anything to
debug.

My question remains, then:

> 
> How do I get out of the "Exec format error" ?
> 
> On a related topic : is there a way to make apt "forget" a package,

> and/or completely purge it from the disk, its installed packages list,
> etc ? Just so I'd be able to reinstall it or a newer version sometime
> later ?

dpkg -P 


OK, OK, my question was poorly phrased :). I've been using Deb for
now... 4-5 years, so hopefully I know about dpkg :) What I meant to ask
is how do I completely dump a package (manually remove all traces of it)
when apt-get remove and dpkg -P fail ? My problem with guile is not only
when I try to install it, but also when I try to remove/purge the
package.


The only thing that comes to mind is dlocate or cruft.  Maybe others have
better suggestions.


 You see, I had a power failure when dist-upgrading my system.

Yep.  That could easily explain it.  :-)




Thanks again,

Jeff





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Re: Unable to properly install 2 packages

[J.F.Gratton]

... I'm quite dumb.. forgot to include the so-called
guile-1.6.postinst sorry :)

here it is :


 minimum.
 .
 This package also contains a wrapper "pmount-hal" which reads some
 information like device labels and mount options from hal and passes
 them to pmount. Install the package "hal" if you want to use this
 feature.

Package: menu-xdg
Status: install ok installed
Priority: optional
Section: admin
Installed-Size: 32
Maintainer: Christopher L Cheney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Architecture: all
Version: 0.2
Recommends: menu
Conflicts: menu (<< 2.1.14)
Conffiles:
 /etc/menu-methods/xdg-desktop-entry-spec-apps 14ad37


there IS data corruption, as you can guess.

On Tue, 2005-31-05 at 21:45 -0400, J.F.Gratton wrote:
> On Tue, 2005-31-05 at 21:24 -0400, Marty wrote:
> > J.F.Gratton wrote:
> > [snip snip]
> > > Setting up guile-1.6 (1.6.7-1) ...
> > > dpkg (subprocess): unable to execute post-installation script: Exec
> > > format error
> > > dpkg: error processing guile-1.6 (--configure):
> > >  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2
> > 
> > That script would be /var/lib/dpkg/info/guile-1.6.postinst
> 
> OK, here's a start. 'cept that the file looks some kind of informational
> file used by apt/dpkg, *not* a script file or anything (at the bottom of
> this message you'll have the contents of the file.
> 
> > If it exists and is uncorrupted, then you can try to debug it manually,
> > or else just try purging the package and starting over again.
> 
> As the file does not contain any commands, I don't see anything to
> debug.
> 
> My question remains, then:
> 
> > > 
> > > How do I get out of the "Exec format error" ?
> > > 
> > > On a related topic : is there a way to make apt "forget" a package,
> > > and/or completely purge it from the disk, its installed packages list,
> > > etc ? Just so I'd be able to reinstall it or a newer version sometime
> > > later ?
> > 
> > dpkg -P 
> 
> OK, OK, my question was poorly phrased :). I've been using Deb for
> now... 4-5 years, so hopefully I know about dpkg :) What I meant to ask
> is how do I completely dump a package (manually remove all traces of it)
> when apt-get remove and dpkg -P fail ? My problem with guile is not only
> when I try to install it, but also when I try to remove/purge the
> package. You see, I had a power failure when dist-upgrading my system.
> 
> 
> Thanks again,
> 
> Jeff
> 
> 


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Re: Unable to properly install 2 packages

[J.F.Gratton]

On Tue, 2005-31-05 at 21:24 -0400, Marty wrote:
> J.F.Gratton wrote:
> [snip snip]
> > Setting up guile-1.6 (1.6.7-1) ...
> > dpkg (subprocess): unable to execute post-installation script: Exec
> > format error
> > dpkg: error processing guile-1.6 (--configure):
> >  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2
> 
> That script would be /var/lib/dpkg/info/guile-1.6.postinst

OK, here's a start. 'cept that the file looks some kind of informational
file used by apt/dpkg, *not* a script file or anything (at the bottom of
this message you'll have the contents of the file.

> If it exists and is uncorrupted, then you can try to debug it manually,
> or else just try purging the package and starting over again.

As the file does not contain any commands, I don't see anything to
debug.

My question remains, then:

> > 
> > How do I get out of the "Exec format error" ?
> > 
> > On a related topic : is there a way to make apt "forget" a package,
> > and/or completely purge it from the disk, its installed packages list,
> > etc ? Just so I'd be able to reinstall it or a newer version sometime
> > later ?
> 
> dpkg -P 

OK, OK, my question was poorly phrased :). I've been using Deb for
now... 4-5 years, so hopefully I know about dpkg :) What I meant to ask
is how do I completely dump a package (manually remove all traces of it)
when apt-get remove and dpkg -P fail ? My problem with guile is not only
when I try to install it, but also when I try to remove/purge the
package. You see, I had a power failure when dist-upgrading my system.


Thanks again,

Jeff


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Need help converting Quicktime/MOV to DVD

[Scott Ehrlich]

I captured home video from a Sony camcorder to my G3 running 10.3 via
iMovie.   I then used iMovie to convert the captured files to MOV -
averaging 12 - 13 gig per file.

I now want to perform the final step of burning the MOV files to DVD.

I tried doing this with Roxio Toast 6 Lite but its encoder was so horrible
the resulting video on DVD was horrendous.   I tried one burn to test
timing and quality.   I have since learned I probably need to convert the
MOV files to MPEG2, and then to DVD format?   My G3 is too underpowered
and my budget cannot affort the expense of testing various utilities for
10.3 to see whether or not they might work.

What is the best way under Debian to:

- Prepare the MOV files for DVD?

- Burn the resulting files to DVD?


I have a Pentium II with 384 Meg RAM and a Pentium III with 384 Meg RAM.
Ample disk space on both.

Thanks.

Scott


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Re: Unable to properly install 2 packages

[Marty]

J.F.Gratton wrote:

Hi all,

I've never been good to fix packages that break down at install (I'm not
blaming maintainers for the packages, btw... I guess I'm responsible for
the mess here).

Here's what happened :

-
helsinki:~# apt-get dist-upgrade
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Calculating Upgrade... Done
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
2 not fully installed or removed.
Need to get 0B of archives.
After unpacking 0B of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y
Setting up guile-1.6 (1.6.7-1) ...
dpkg (subprocess): unable to execute post-installation script: Exec
format error
dpkg: error processing guile-1.6 (--configure):
 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2


That script would be /var/lib/dpkg/info/guile-1.6.postinst

If it exists and is uncorrupted, then you can try to debug it manually,
or else just try purging the package and starting over again.

You can ignore the rest of the messages.


dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of libgwrapguile1:
 libgwrapguile1 depends on guile-1.6; however:
  Package guile-1.6 is not configured yet.
dpkg: error processing libgwrapguile1 (--configure):
 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
Errors were encountered while processing:
 guile-1.6
 libgwrapguile1
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)


---

How do I get out of the "Exec format error" ?

On a related topic : is there a way to make apt "forget" a package,
and/or completely purge it from the disk, its installed packages list,
etc ? Just so I'd be able to reinstall it or a newer version sometime
later ?


dpkg -P 




Thanks,

Jeff





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Grub and dual booting

[Peter Jay Salzman]

Hi all,

I'm a recent lilo convert, so I'm rather new to grub.


Summary
===

I recently had to reinstall MS Windows XP (sigh), and I'm now having trouble
getting grub to boot it.  Debian boots OK.  When booting XP, I see:

   Disk error
   Press any key to restart
   Missing operating system



The System
==

BIOS is set to boot off the PATA drive.  The drives on the system are:

   hda PATA: (all ext3)
  Various backup partitions.  Expendable.  Contains the system's MBR.

   hde SATA: MS Windows XP (all FAT32)

  hde1 (hd1,0) MS Windows OS (bootable)
  hde2 (hd1,1) D drive
  hde3 (hd1,2) E drive

   hdg SATA: GNU/Linux (all ext3)

  hdg1 (hd2,0) /boot
  hdg2 (hd2,1) /var
  hdg3 (hd2,2) swap
  hdg5 (hd2,4) /home
  hdg6 (hd2,5) /
  hdg7 (hd2,6) /usr/local



Grub Configuration
==

Grub was installed on /dev/hda.  My grub menu looks like this:

   titleDebian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.10
   root (hd2,0)
   kernel  /vmlinuz-2.6.10 root=/dev/hdg6 ro
   savedefault
   boot

   titleWindows NT/2000/XP
   map (hd0) (hd1)
   map (hd1) (hd0)
   rootnoverify (hd1,0)
   savedefault
   makeactive
   chainloader +1



What I tried


When I installed XP, I removed the PATA drive so XP thought it was
installing itself onto the "first drive".

After finding that XP wouldn't boot, I tried:

   1. disconnect the PATA drive
   2. run the Windows XP recovery console
   3. use "fixmbr" and "fixboot".
   4. reconnect the PATA drive

But it didn't work.  I'm a little reluctant to repeat the above procedure
without taking the PATA drive out because I don't want to lose the ability
to boot into Debian.  I'm also very unknowledgable with Microsoft's
operating systems.

I don't understand why this isn't working:

   * BIOS boots of the PATA drive.
   * Grub is installed in the MBR on the PATA drive.
   * Windows first bootloader is on the MBR of (hd1)
   * I'm not sure how Windows boots after that, but I assume this is where
 the problem is.  What exactly happens once the MS first bootloader
 is loaded?

Any ideas?  I'm on unfamiliar ground all around.  Should I try running
fixboot with the PATA drive still connected?

Thanks!
Pete

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Re: KSnapshot

[Lee Braiden]

On Tuesday 31 May 2005 14:48, hja123 wrote:
> I am using KSnapshot 0.7. There is a 'Capture Mode' which has a
> selection of 'Region'. It is supposed to be for selecting a resion of
> the screen mapped out by clicking and dragging the mouse. After
> selecting region, the mouse does not go into 'click-and-drag' mode.
>
> Is there a bug or the feature has not been implemented?

Works for me, with 0.7.  You need to choose region, then choose new snapshot, 
*then* draw the region after the ksnapshot window is hidden.  Is that not 
working for you?

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xvnc4viewer and other vnc questions?

[J F]

What is the difference between these two:
xvnc4viewer (1)  - VNC viewer for X
xvncviewer (1)   - VNC viewer for X

http://packages.debian.org/testing/net/xvnc4viewer

>From what I have read, tightvnc is prefered.

A guy who runs different version of linux
recommended this as:
http://xf4vnc.sourceforge.net/doc.html

He said it was more efficient in that it uses
your desktop X server that supply all the desktops
your CRT and also supplies the vnc desktop without
starting another x-server.

x11vnc must do something similar for debian, but
seemed slow.  I tested it out running the client
and server on the same machine.  The infinite
cascade of windows inside vnc windows confused me
at first.

What vnc are you guys using?
There seems to be also a java version in debian.





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KSnapshot

[hja123]

Hi,

I am using KSnapshot 0.7. There is a 'Capture Mode' which has a
selection of 'Region'. It is supposed to be for selecting a resion of
the screen mapped out by clicking and dragging the mouse. After
selecting region, the mouse does not go into 'click-and-drag' mode.

Is there a bug or the feature has not been implemented?


hja123


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Re: SC420 problem with Debian make-kpkg (fwd)

[David Jardine]

On Tue, May 31, 2005 at 04:10:46PM -0700, Chris Gray wrote:
> Hi:
> 
> Yes, my issues with the 2.4.28 kernel are similar plus I need to 
> incorporate a module for a VOIP card.
> 
> A couple questions:
> 
> I've been using as my reference in learning how to do this:
> 
>  Debian Reference
>  
>Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Editor: David Sewell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> I want to be clear about your procedure so have these questions.
> 
> For context, here are the very recent steps from that text used.  The 
> exception is that the text expects one to use fakeroot and I'm logged in as 
> root.  Thus, we have a kernel source loaded and their recommended packages 
> loaded, and:
> 
> Prompt# cd /usr/src# build directory
> Prompt# tar --bzip2 -xvf kernel-source-2.6.10.tar.bz2
> Prompt# cd kernel-source-2.6.10   # if this is your kernel source
> # cp /boot/config-<2.4.18-386>.config # get current config as default

I think there's a vital space missing here. You should be copying

/boot/config-2.14.18-36

to

.config

so the line should be

cp /boot/config-2.4.18-386 .config

> 
> Here, I may have screwed up.  I interpretted "current" in the accompanying 
> comment as my current 2.4.28 config.  In fact, in /boot I do not have a 
> 2.6.10 config file of any kind I don't believe.  That's why I interpretted 
> the text as I did. So, are you saying that instead of the command
> 
> # cp /boot/config-<2.4.28.config 
> /usr/src/kernel-source-2.6.10/config-2.4.28.config
> 
> I should use the command
> 
> prompt#cp /boot/config-2.6.10-1-686.config 
> /usr/src/kernel-source-2.6.10/config-2.6.10-1-686.config
> 
> I can see where a wrong config file could make a big difference.  I'll 
> check around and see if I did receive this file in the Debian package.
> 
> prompt# make menuconfig# customize as one wishes
> 
> I did not run this command, electing to use the default configuration for 
> experimental purposes.
> 
> The reference then instruct one to run:
> 
> make-kpkg clean
> 
> which is where I fail.  Are you saying that maybe this is a wrong 
> instruction or a misunderstood instruction and that I should :
> 
> # make-kpkg --append-to-version "-1-686" --revision 2.6.10-1 |
>--config config-2.6.10-1-686.config
> 
> Thanks very much.
> 
> Chris
> 
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Re: Problems seeing USB mp3 player... any help?

[Carl Fink]

On Tue, May 31, 2005 at 05:05:21PM -0400, Paul Smith wrote:

> My wife bought me a Rage MP 256M MP3 player for my birthday.

I can't find a reference to this player in Google.  Could you post the
manufacturer and model number?
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Re: Discover device drivers built into a kernel image

[Paulo M C =?iso-8859-1?Q?Arag=E3o?=]

Keeling,

s. keeling wrote on May, 31:
> If it's installed, you might learn more than you want to by running
> "si":
> 
>   i   si- /proc system information viewer   
> 
> aptitude update && aptitude upgrade && aptitude install si

I installed si (from stable) on my sarge laptop and ran it. It had
unusual effects: abends with segmentation fault after it reads from
/proc/mttr and messes up the terminal (disables echos and linefeeds).

Pity since it looked really informative.

Paulo


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Re: SC420 problem with Debian make-kpkg

[Greg Madden]

On Tuesday 31 May 2005 03:07 pm, Chris Gray wrote:
> Yes, but as you will see from a message I posted here, but that may
> not have gotten through yet, I did not use a current config file.  I
> used the file from 2.4.28 because that is the only .config file I
> could find.

Not sure of the complete ramifications of copying a 2.4 .config to a 2.6 
source, but generally if you use an existing .config file you need to 
run 'make oldconfig' and answer the questions presented.

>
> Perhaps this is the problem?
>
> Chris
>
> On -1 xxx -1, it was written:
> > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> > Subject: Re: SC420 problem with Debian make-kpkg
> > Resent-Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 17:54:55 -0500 (CDT)
> > Resent-Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 17:54:55 -0500 (CDT)
> > Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> >
> > On Tue, 2005-05-31 at 13:45 -0700, Chris Gray wrote:
> >> Hi:
> >>
> >> In February, I got, from the Dell website, a 2.4.28 kernel and got
> >> my SC420
> >> working with the ATA disk software built into that kernel and with
> >> the right module for the network adapter.  However, I need to add
> >> other things like USB and sound support, and also need to update
> >> to a 2.6 kernel for other reasons.
> >>
> >> I got 2.6.10 from the Debian site via aptitude, got it unpacked,
> >> and it's sitting in /usr/src/linux-2.6.10/kernel-source-2.6.10. 
> >> There are lower subdirectories like arch and arch/i386, but you
> >> get the idea.
> >>
> >> I should now be ready to start building a Debian package and
> >> modifying my kernel configuration as needed.  But, When I issue
> >> the command:
> >>
> >> make-kpkg clean
> >>
> >> from usr/src/linux-2.6.10/kernel-source-2.6.10 or any other
> >> directory level from /usr/src on down, I get a message saying
> >>
> >> "We do not seem to be in a top-level kernel source directory
> >> tree...".
> >>
> >> The message suggested upgrading the Debian kernel-package which I
> >> have done to no good effect.  I also looked through some Debian
> >> archives and saw many messages about people installing
> >> modules/drivers that caused this message. Could there be something
> >> about the Dell installation that is causing make-kpkg to choke?
> >>
> >> Also, I am issuing the make-kpkg clean as root.
> >>
> >> Does anybody know what this message really means and what to do
> >> about it? It seems pretty clear there's something very basic that
> >> make-kpkg isn't finding that it wants, given that not even the
> >> clean option works.
> >>
> >> Thanks.
> >>
> >> Chris
> >
> > Do you have a .config file in
> > usr/src/linux-2.6.10/kernel-source-2.6.10, or anywhere under
> > /usr/src/linux* ?
> >
> > Ionut
>
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Re: Discover device drivers built into a kernel image

[Paulo M C =?iso-8859-1?Q?Arag=E3o?=]

Keeling,

s. keeling wrote on May, 31:
> If it's installed, you might learn more than you want to by running
> "si":
> 
>   i   si- /proc system information viewer   
> 
> aptitude update && aptitude upgrade && aptitude install si

Do you know why `si' isn't included in sarge ?

Paulo


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Re: All browsers crash on button click (java?)

[Winston Smith]

Winston (this poster) writes:
> $ ls -l /etc/alternatives/*java*
> #edited
> java -> /usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/bin/java
> javac -> /usr/bin/jikes-sablevm
> javadoc -> /usr/bin/gjdoc
> javah -> /usr/bin/javah-cp
> javap -> /usr/bin/javap-cp
> javaws -> /usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/bin/javaws
> firefox-javaplugin.so -> 
>   /usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so
> mozilla-javaplugin.so -> 
>   /usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so
> netscape-javaplugin.so -> 
>   /usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/plugin/i386/ns4/libjavaplugin.so
> 

I installed the sdk (sun-j2sdk1.5_1.5.0+update03_i386.deb)
and ran java-alt-setup, so the relavent links above all point to 
files in the /usr/lib/j2sdk1.5-sun/ directory now.

Mozilla and Firefox still crash on the epa link.

Winston


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Re: can ping but mozilla doesn't work

[Daniel McBrearty]

Thanks Kent and Meni. 

Hmmm. Yes, things got a bit better after I sorted out the router (I
had been tweaking in desperation, restored factory defaults and set up
the DSL iface).

I now have all OK with my 2.4.27 kernel. But with 2.6.8 kernel, still problems:
- can ping hosts by name
- can ping hosts by IP
- can lookup hosts using nslookup
- can see sites with mozilla if I use the IP address
- CANNOT see sites by name with mozilla.

I'm baffled. It's such an odd combination of things to be
kernel-version dependent. I have looked through kernel config for
anything that MIGHT affect DNS in any way, but no joy. I've booted up
twice into each kernel with same results, nothing else was changed in
between.

Any ideas? This has to be some glaringly obvious stupid thing that I
just can't see for looking, right  ?

Dan

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Re: SC420 problem with Debian make-kpkg (fwd)

[Chris Gray]

Hi:

Yes, my issues with the 2.4.28 kernel are similar plus I need to incorporate a 
module for a VOIP card.


A couple questions:

I've been using as my reference in learning how to do this:

 Debian Reference
 
   Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Editor: David Sewell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I want to be clear about your procedure so have these questions.

For context, here are the very recent steps from that text used.  The exception 
is that the text expects one to use fakeroot and I'm logged in as root.  Thus, 
we have a kernel source loaded and their recommended packages loaded, and:


Prompt# cd /usr/src# build directory
Prompt# tar --bzip2 -xvf kernel-source-2.6.10.tar.bz2
Prompt# cd kernel-source-2.6.10   # if this is your kernel source
# cp /boot/config-<2.4.18-386>.config # get current config as default

Here, I may have screwed up.  I interpretted "current" in the accompanying 
comment as my current 2.4.28 config.  In fact, in /boot I do not have a 2.6.10 
config file of any kind I don't believe.  That's why I interpretted the text as 
I did. So, are you saying that instead of the command


# cp /boot/config-<2.4.28.config 
/usr/src/kernel-source-2.6.10/config-2.4.28.config


I should use the command

prompt#cp /boot/config-2.6.10-1-686.config 
/usr/src/kernel-source-2.6.10/config-2.6.10-1-686.config


I can see where a wrong config file could make a big difference.  I'll check 
around and see if I did receive this file in the Debian package.


prompt# make menuconfig# customize as one wishes

I did not run this command, electing to use the default configuration for 
experimental purposes.


The reference then instruct one to run:

make-kpkg clean

which is where I fail.  Are you saying that maybe this is a wrong instruction 
or a misunderstood instruction and that I should :


# make-kpkg --append-to-version "-1-686" --revision 2.6.10-1 |
   --config config-2.6.10-1-686.config

Thanks very much.

Chris


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Adaptec AIC-8130 and HP ML150 G2

[David Harrison]

Hi all,

I'm having a large amount of trouble finding out how to use an Adaptec
AIC-8130 under Linux (specifically Debian) [it came as the SATA
controller in a HP ML150 G2].

It certainly isn't detected using the latest build of Testing, and I
can't even find references to the specific driver to use in the kernel
for it ??!!

Has anyone seen these cards before ?  Anyone know what they use ?

Cheers
Dave


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Re: SC420 problem with Debian make-kpkg

[Chris Gray]

Yes, but as you will see from a message I posted here, but that may 
not have gotten through yet, I did not use a current config file.  I 
used the file from 2.4.28 because that is the only .config file I 
could find.


Perhaps this is the problem?

Chris

On -1 xxx -1, it was written:


To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: SC420 problem with Debian make-kpkg
Resent-Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 17:54:55 -0500 (CDT)
Resent-Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 17:54:55 -0500 (CDT)
Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org

On Tue, 2005-05-31 at 13:45 -0700, Chris Gray wrote:

Hi:

In February, I got, from the Dell website, a 2.4.28 kernel and got my
SC420
working with the ATA disk software built into that kernel and with the right
module for the network adapter.  However, I need to add other things like USB
and sound support, and also need to update to a 2.6 kernel for other
reasons.

I got 2.6.10 from the Debian site via aptitude, got it unpacked, and it's
sitting in /usr/src/linux-2.6.10/kernel-source-2.6.10.  There are lower
subdirectories like arch and arch/i386, but you get the idea.

I should now be ready to start building a Debian package and modifying my
kernel configuration as needed.  But, When I issue the command:

make-kpkg clean

from usr/src/linux-2.6.10/kernel-source-2.6.10 or any other directory level
from /usr/src on down, I get a message saying

"We do not seem to be in a top-level kernel source directory tree...".

The message suggested upgrading the Debian kernel-package which I have done to
no good effect.  I also looked through some Debian archives and saw many
messages about people installing modules/drivers that caused this message.
Could there be something about the Dell installation that is causing make-kpkg
to choke?

Also, I am issuing the make-kpkg clean as root.

Does anybody know what this message really means and what to do about
it? It seems pretty clear there's something very basic that make-kpkg
isn't finding that it wants, given that not even the clean option works.

Thanks.

Chris




Do you have a .config file in usr/src/linux-2.6.10/kernel-source-2.6.10,
or anywhere under /usr/src/linux* ?

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Unable to properly install 2 packages

[J.F.Gratton]

Hi all,

I've never been good to fix packages that break down at install (I'm not
blaming maintainers for the packages, btw... I guess I'm responsible for
the mess here).

Here's what happened :

-
helsinki:~# apt-get dist-upgrade
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Calculating Upgrade... Done
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
2 not fully installed or removed.
Need to get 0B of archives.
After unpacking 0B of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y
Setting up guile-1.6 (1.6.7-1) ...
dpkg (subprocess): unable to execute post-installation script: Exec
format error
dpkg: error processing guile-1.6 (--configure):
 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of libgwrapguile1:
 libgwrapguile1 depends on guile-1.6; however:
  Package guile-1.6 is not configured yet.
dpkg: error processing libgwrapguile1 (--configure):
 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
Errors were encountered while processing:
 guile-1.6
 libgwrapguile1
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)


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How do I get out of the "Exec format error" ?

On a related topic : is there a way to make apt "forget" a package,
and/or completely purge it from the disk, its installed packages list,
etc ? Just so I'd be able to reinstall it or a newer version sometime
later ?


Thanks,

Jeff


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Re: knowing my IP address behind NAT firewall

[Lee Braiden]

On Tuesday 31 May 2005 23:48, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
> On Tue, May 31, 2005 at 11:25:10PM +0100, Lee Braiden wrote:
> > ping -c 1 hop www.google.com | grep 'bytes from' | cut -d ' ' -f 5 | cut
> > -d '(' -f 2 | cut -d ')' -f 1
>
> Try this:
> lynx -dump http://checkip.dyndns.org |sed -n '/Current/s/.*: \(.*\)/\1/p'
>
> It doesn't rely on ICMP packaets, which are blocked by many ISPs and/or
> network admins.

I guess the hop thing is unreliable, then?

p.s.: Dexter, you might be able to use Roberto's example to parse the output 
of the webserver built into your router.  That would be awkward on my router, 
but I've heard of other people doing that.  Not sure if it was easy on 
theirs, or if they just liked hard work ;)

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Re: SC420 problem with Debian make-kpkg

[Ionut Georgescu]

On Tue, 2005-05-31 at 13:45 -0700, Chris Gray wrote:
> Hi:
> 
> In February, I got, from the Dell website, a 2.4.28 kernel and got my 
> SC420 
> working with the ATA disk software built into that kernel and with the right 
> module for the network adapter.  However, I need to add other things like USB 
> and sound support, and also need to update to a 2.6 kernel for other 
> reasons.
> 
> I got 2.6.10 from the Debian site via aptitude, got it unpacked, and it's 
> sitting in /usr/src/linux-2.6.10/kernel-source-2.6.10.  There are lower 
> subdirectories like arch and arch/i386, but you get the idea.
> 
> I should now be ready to start building a Debian package and modifying my 
> kernel configuration as needed.  But, When I issue the command:
> 
> make-kpkg clean
> 
> from usr/src/linux-2.6.10/kernel-source-2.6.10 or any other directory level 
> from /usr/src on down, I get a message saying
> 
> "We do not seem to be in a top-level kernel source directory tree...".
> 
> The message suggested upgrading the Debian kernel-package which I have done 
> to 
> no good effect.  I also looked through some Debian archives and saw many 
> messages about people installing modules/drivers that caused this message. 
> Could there be something about the Dell installation that is causing 
> make-kpkg 
> to choke?
> 
> Also, I am issuing the make-kpkg clean as root.
> 
> Does anybody know what this message really means and what to do about 
> it? It seems pretty clear there's something very basic that make-kpkg 
> isn't finding that it wants, given that not even the clean option works.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Chris
> 


Do you have a .config file in usr/src/linux-2.6.10/kernel-source-2.6.10,
or anywhere under /usr/src/linux* ?

Ionut


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Re: knowing my IP address behind NAT firewall

[Roberto C. Sanchez]

On Tue, May 31, 2005 at 11:25:10PM +0100, Lee Braiden wrote:
> 
> Since you asked, and I had wondered about this myself previously, I just 
> worked it out (or, rather, stumbled across it).  The following works for me:
> 
> ping -c 1 hop www.google.com | grep 'bytes from' | cut -d ' ' -f 5 | cut -d 
> '(' -f 2 | cut -d ')' -f 1
> 
> Since the ping manpage doesn't actually seem to explain what the hop keyword 
> does, I'd love to know... :)

Try this:

lynx -dump http://checkip.dyndns.org |sed -n '/Current/s/.*: \(.*\)/\1/p'

It doesn't rely on ICMP packaets, which are blocked by many ISPs and/or
network admins.

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getmail4 and python2.3

[Kevin Coyner]

I've been using getmail4 for some time with no problems.  My python
version is 2.3.

Today I upgraded the kernel from 2.6.8 to 2.6.11.  Since then I've
been getting the following error message whenever I execute getmail:

/usr/lib/python2.3/optparse.py:668: FutureWarning: %u/%o/%x/%X of
negative int will return a signed string in Python 2.4 and up
  return ("<%s at 0x%x: %r>"

I find it hard to imagine that the kernel upgrade has anything to do
with this error.

But anyway, has anyone seen this before?

I checked the getmail site, and in their FAQ they mention this
error, but simply say it's a bug in Python2.3.  Yet just this
morning this was working for me, so I don't think Python2.3 has a
bug.

Thanks,
Kevin

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Re: knowing my IP address behind NAT firewall

[Lee Braiden]

On Tuesday 31 May 2005 22:22, dexter2 wrote:
> Each time i connect to internet, i have diferent IP, that my ISP assign
> to me. If i want to know my IP, that i use on internet, I have to
> connect to DSL modem via HTTP and read it there.
> Is there a unix command, that will get my internet IP? How does this
> command get this IP?
> It must be posible, becouse Valknut is able to get my actual internet
> IP.

I don't want to encourage anyone to ask questions that can be found in other 
ways, *but*... :)

Since you asked, and I had wondered about this myself previously, I just 
worked it out (or, rather, stumbled across it).  The following works for me:

ping -c 1 hop www.google.com | grep 'bytes from' | cut -d ' ' -f 5 | cut -d 
'(' -f 2 | cut -d ')' -f 1

Since the ping manpage doesn't actually seem to explain what the hop keyword 
does, I'd love to know... :)

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SQUID using NAT

[Romulo Sousa]

Hi folks,

I'm reading squid's howto's and I'm missing one information regarding
the topology I built at home: where should I use my proxy if it is
part of a LAN? In other words, it has a not public IP address??

INTERNET =HUB= HOST_A  (lab) //eth0 (dinamic) // eth1: 192.a.b.c
|
|
 HOST_B (squid) //eth0: 192.x.y.z 

I have squid runnin into the HOST_A and i wanna migrate it to HOST_B.
My doubt is, how wil it work if it has no communication w/ the
internet? should I change my topology? If not, what should I do to
squid poiter to outside interface of HOST_A?

Thanks,

Romulo Sousa

Re: knowing my IP address behind NAT firewall

[Roberto C. Sanchez]

On Tue, May 31, 2005 at 11:22:42PM +0200, dexter2 wrote:
> Hi,
> i'm connected to internet via DSL line. I have DSL modem with 4 eth
> ports. DSL modem serve also as NAT firewall.
> Each time i connect to internet, i have diferent IP, that my ISP assign
> to me. If i want to know my IP, that i use on internet, I have to
> connect to DSL modem via HTTP and read it there. 
> Is there a unix command, that will get my internet IP? How does this
> command get this IP?
> It must be posible, becouse Valknut is able to get my actual internet
> IP.
>   Thanks
>  Dexter2

This has been discussed more than once.  Please search the list archives
at http://lists.debian.org and look for those threads.

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Re: Discover device drivers built into a kernel image

[s. keeling]

Incoming from Paulo M C Aragão:
> Hi Keeling, Jacob and Peter,
> 
> On Tue, May 31, 2005 at 03:52:58PM -0400, Peter Jay Salzman wrote:
> 
> > If it's enabled in the kernel, you can also do
> > 
> > zcat /proc/config.gz
> > 
> > It's been a long time since I've used a stock Debian kernel, so I don't know
> > if they have it enabled by default.
> 
> Thanks to you all. I appreciate your patience with newbies.

If it's installed, you might learn more than you want to by running
"si":

  i   si- /proc system information viewer   

aptitude update && aptitude upgrade && aptitude install si


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Problems seeing USB mp3 player... any help?

[Paul Smith]

Hi all;

My wife bought me a Rage MP 256M MP3 player for my birthday.  I'm having
a devil of a time getting my Linux system to recognize it so I can stock
it up with k00l t00n3s.  When I plug it in, I get messages like this in
/var/log/syslog:

  May 31 01:17:09 homebase kernel: usb 4-3: new high speed USB device using 
address 4
  May 31 01:17:10 homebase kernel: usb 4-3: device not accepting address 4, 
error -71
  May 31 01:17:10 homebase kernel: usb 4-3: new high speed USB device using 
address 5
  May 31 01:17:10 homebase kernel: usb 4-3: device not accepting address 5, 
error -71
  May 31 01:18:12 homebase kernel: usb 4-3: new high speed USB device using 
address 6
  May 31 01:18:12 homebase kernel: usb 4-3: device not accepting address 6, 
error -71
  May 31 01:18:12 homebase kernel: usb 4-3: new high speed USB device using 
address 7
  May 31 01:18:13 homebase kernel: usb 4-3: device not accepting address 7, 
error -71

Sometimes I only get a few addresses, other times it tries up to at
least address 9.  Error -71 is EPROTO, so that doesn't help me much :-/.

I've googled and grepped and gnashed (teeth :-)) but haven't found
anything really relevant.  Most of the docs I find are all really old:
for 2.4 kernels and stuff.  They don't seem to say much--am I missing
the docs?  I tried booting with acpi=off but besides breaking some other
stuff that didn't make any difference.  I checked /proc/interrupts and
they do seem to go up when I plug in the player.


I'm running Debian "sarge", quite up to date, but with my own kernel:
2.6.9 downloaded from kernel.org with no patches applied (unfortunately
I have a limited set of kernels I can use, since I need to use a
Contivity VPN client w/ kernel modules to get into work).  I do have the
USB kernel config settings:

  CONFIG_USB=y
  CONFIG_USB_DEVICEFS=y
  CONFIG_USB_EHCI_HCD=m
  CONFIG_USB_EHCI_SPLIT_ISO=y
  CONFIG_USB_OHCI_HCD=m
  CONFIG_USB_UHCI_HCD=m
  CONFIG_USB_MIDI=m
  CONFIG_USB_ACM=m
  CONFIG_USB_PRINTER=m
  CONFIG_USB_STORAGE=m

and various other USB options are set.  I have SCSI enabled, and SCSI
disk support enabled.  I have the hotplug package installed.  If I use
lsmod I see these (among others of course):

  ehci_hcd   39556  0 
  uhci_hcd   28428  0 
  usb_storage60224  0 
  scsi_mod  106444  1 usb_storage

For hardware I have one of those VIA on-board USB modules.  It has 4 USB
ports (in the back of the system--grr!), and lspci says:

  :00:10.0 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82x UHCI USB 1.1 
Controller (rev 80)
  :00:10.1 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82x UHCI USB 1.1 
Controller (rev 80)
  :00:10.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82x UHCI USB 1.1 
Controller (rev 80)
  :00:10.3 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB 2.0 (rev 82)

It _seems_ like this means only one of them is a USB 2.0 port (which I
need for my player).  But, I cannot figure out which one: they all look
the same to me.  I've tried all four of them, though, and none of them
"just works".

One odd thing is my logs all talk about devices as above, numbered 4-1,
4-2, 4-3, and 4-4 depending on which USB port in the back I plug it
into, but lspci and the kernel boot log lists them as 10.0, 10.1, 10.2,
and 10.3.  I don't know how they relate (is it just the obvious, 4-1 <->
10.0, etc.?)


Any help or hints or places to look next?

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Re: Installing a program from source

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> Hey there,
> 
> I want to install a program from source.  For example, I have
> downloaded the 
> latest CVS snapshot of xmms to put my own patches onto.  I know how
> to 
> compile and install.

Try this as a read:

http://www.hants.lug.org.uk/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?LinuxHints/CompileFromSource

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Re: can't find compile option for 2.6.8 kernel module uninstall

[Daniel McBrearty]

somewhat redfaced, I realised that I didn't remove the "linux" link,
and was in fact trying to configure an old kernel ...

thanks for the help rafi!

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Re: [solved] Squid and Transparent Proxy for just one box

[Romulo Sousa]

Hi Joe,

Thanks for your help. It's working! ;)
Next step: authentication for using my proxy. If you have any doc that
should be helpfull I would appreciate that.

[]'s

Romulo

On 5/31/05, Joe Potter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Romulo Sousa wrote:
> > On 5/30/05, Joe Potter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >>Joe Potter wrote:
> >>
> >>>Hello All,
> >>>
> >>>I need to test some proxy methods for our school lab. I seem to have hit
> >>>a brick wall.
> >>>
> >>>I have squid running just fine on this Debian Sid box. I use Firefox and
> >>>manually tell it where to find the proxy, i.e. at 127.0.0.1 and port
> >>>3128. The logs (/var/log/squid/access.log) show everything working just
> >>>fine.
> >>>
> >>>The problem is that I can not get the transparent portion working. The
> >>>how-tos on the net (http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/TransparentProxy.html)
> >>>seem to all involve setting up a server with two nic cards and so forth.
> >>>I will need that at some point, but right now I just want to redirect
> >>>all calls to port 80 on this one box for all users to port 3128 so the
> >>>use of squid becomes mandatory. In fact, I just want to see it work one
> >>>time on my account.
> >>>
> >>>I am sitting behind a firewall router and do not run an iptables
> >>>firewall now. Hence, I can use any fire wall to get this job done. It is
> >>>just this one box I would love to see work.
> >>>
> >>>A little help please?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Regards, Joe
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>Hello all,
> >>
> >>I found it. I forgot to let squid itself talk to port 80. Seems that
> >>caused a bit of trouble.
> >
> > Hi Joe,
> >
> > I'm having a similiar problem. How did u solve the problem of redirect
> > the port http (80) to another higher port (3128 in your case)?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Romulo
> >
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> that I did not realize that squid runs as user "proxy" by default. So,
> leave that alone and adjust the how-to accordingly is the way I did it.
> In other words, replace "squid" with "proxy". (on Debian at least)
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knowing my IP address behind NAT firewall

[dexter2]

Hi,
i'm connected to internet via DSL line. I have DSL modem with 4 eth
ports. DSL modem serve also as NAT firewall.
Each time i connect to internet, i have diferent IP, that my ISP assign
to me. If i want to know my IP, that i use on internet, I have to
connect to DSL modem via HTTP and read it there. 
Is there a unix command, that will get my internet IP? How does this
command get this IP?
It must be posible, becouse Valknut is able to get my actual internet
IP.
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Latex Q - page number appears on pg 1 with empty pagestyle

[Christiane Reher]

Try this \addtocounter{page}{-1}

This worked for me!

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Re: Discover device drivers built into a kernel image

[Paulo M C =?iso-8859-1?Q?Arag=E3o?=]

Hi Keeling, Jacob and Peter,

On Tue, May 31, 2005 at 03:52:58PM -0400, Peter Jay Salzman wrote:

> If it's enabled in the kernel, you can also do
> 
> zcat /proc/config.gz
> 
> It's been a long time since I've used a stock Debian kernel, so I don't know
> if they have it enabled by default.

Thanks to you all. I appreciate your patience with newbies.

Peter, /proc/config.gz doesn't exist on my machine, so I suppose the
stock Debian kernel I'm using (2.4.27-2-686) doesn't enable it by
default.

Peter, BTW, your web pages are really useful. Someone had recommended
the one about System.map and I browsed around all of them. I liked your
method of writing pages to structure and clear up what you've been
learning.

Paulo


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SC420 problem with Debian make-kpkg

[Chris Gray]

Hi:

In February, I got, from the Dell website, a 2.4.28 kernel and got my 
SC420 
working with the ATA disk software built into that kernel and with the right 
module for the network adapter.  However, I need to add other things like USB 
and sound support, and also need to update to a 2.6 kernel for other 
reasons.


I got 2.6.10 from the Debian site via aptitude, got it unpacked, and it's 
sitting in /usr/src/linux-2.6.10/kernel-source-2.6.10.  There are lower 
subdirectories like arch and arch/i386, but you get the idea.


I should now be ready to start building a Debian package and modifying my 
kernel configuration as needed.  But, When I issue the command:


make-kpkg clean

from usr/src/linux-2.6.10/kernel-source-2.6.10 or any other directory level 
from /usr/src on down, I get a message saying


"We do not seem to be in a top-level kernel source directory tree...".

The message suggested upgrading the Debian kernel-package which I have done to 
no good effect.  I also looked through some Debian archives and saw many 
messages about people installing modules/drivers that caused this message. 
Could there be something about the Dell installation that is causing make-kpkg 
to choke?


Also, I am issuing the make-kpkg clean as root.

Does anybody know what this message really means and what to do about 
it? It seems pretty clear there's something very basic that make-kpkg 
isn't finding that it wants, given that not even the clean option works.


Thanks.

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Re: Discover device drivers built into a kernel image

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Hi Cameron,

On Tue, May 31, 2005 at 12:49:14PM -0700, Cameron Matheson wrote:

> I don't know if this is the best way, but you can see
> the config file your kernel was built by in
> /boot/config*

Thanks a lot ! It's all there. I suppose all entries '=y' are built into
the kernel and the '=m' entries are made available as modules.

Thanks again
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Re: All browsers crash on button click (java?)

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Wulfmann writes:
> I'm currently on a WinME machine, Mozilla 1.7.5, Java 1.5.  When I go to 
> the page and click on the "generate map" button I get a page with the 
> following error:
>   "Error connecting to the SAS server ...
Thanks. That may be relevant. I don't know.

Jonathan writes:
> I can confirm that your link does crash Firefox. It does NOT crash
> Konqueror, however and the map seems to work normally. I can make it
> bigger or smaller. I'm using jre-1_5_0_02 that I got from Sun (part of
> JDK) on Sarge 2.6.8-2-386
> Hope this helps,

Thanks for mentioning Konqueror. I found that Konqueror works for me
too.  Yeah Konqueror! Also thanks for the crash confirmation.

Greg C. Madden writes:
> Map generation works here with jre-1_5_0_03-linux-i586.bin, note, one 
> version off from what you posted, also used the make-jpkg, with Sarge.

Thanks. I upgraded from update 1_5_0_02 to '03 motivated by your post
and still no go with anything but Konqueror.

Roberto writes:
> FF 1.0.4 on Sarge with Sun JDK 1.5.0 update 03.  Works like a champ for
> me.

That's great. So it's possible. I'm running testing up to date (same
FF). Maybe I should intall the JDK instead of the just the JRE, but that
shouldn't matter.

Maybe I have something mis-configured. Stupidity on my part
is likely. I checked some obvious things:

$ ls -l /etc/alternatives/*java*
#edited
java -> /usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/bin/java
javac -> /usr/bin/jikes-sablevm
javadoc -> /usr/bin/gjdoc
javah -> /usr/bin/javah-cp
javap -> /usr/bin/javap-cp
javaws -> /usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/bin/javaws
firefox-javaplugin.so -> 
/usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so
mozilla-javaplugin.so -> 
/usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so
netscape-javaplugin.so -> 
/usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/plugin/i386/ns4/libjavaplugin.so

I did an strace on mozilla. Towards the end there was mention of
"java/lang/System" followed by incomprehensible stuff followed by
boring stuff.

Thanks to all who responded.

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Re: amaroK 1.2 crashing too often

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Hello

Basajaun (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:

> [...]
> One friend of mine runs amaroK 1.2 on Slackware 10.1, and it barely
> crashes on him (although it does crash). If these crashes are a
> "feature" of the amaroK package, I am amazed by the fact that it is
> included in a distribution (Sarge) that is about to become Stable. In
> fact, its instability should not entitle it to be anyware but Sid,
> IMHO.

I have similar problems. Although I think amarok made some great
advances, the versioning is quite optimistic. In fact I think even the
latest version should be versiones 0.x, not 1.x. However some of the
problems I had vanishes after I deactivates the onscreen display and
the crossfading. If you are looking for something similar that /seems/
to be running more stable (at least the few times I tried it), install
madman.

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Re: CUPS? Printer.

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On Tue, May 31, 2005 at 11:30:45AM -0500, Jay Zach wrote:

> I'm not really sure where to go with this problem , but it's frustrating.

File a bug report?

(Trim your quotes?)
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Re: Possibility of personalizing OpenOffice documents automatically?

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On Tue, May 31, 2005 at 12:10:38PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> What are you thingking about ? LaTeX  or something like that ? Not usefull 
> for 
> "common" user to manage the document in my point of view 

But in other messages to the list, you say you don't want the operators to
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Re: Discover device drivers built into a kernel image

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On Tue 31 May 05,  1:51 PM, s. keeling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Incoming from Paulo M C Aragão:
> > 
> > How do I discover which device drivers are built into a given kernel
> > image, not accessing the sources ?
> 
> Check the config file that came with it?
> 
>   cd /boot
>   ls -l config*
>   uname -a

If it's enabled in the kernel, you can also do

zcat /proc/config.gz

It's been a long time since I've used a stock Debian kernel, so I don't know
if they have it enabled by default.

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Re: Leafnode timing out on news server that works with a news client.

[Steve A]

On Tue, May 31, 2005 at 04:09:38PM +0100 or thereabouts, Adam Funk wrote:
> Steve A wrote:
> 
> > Run leafnode in full verbose mode to see what's happening. Then you should
> > see what the "previous condition" is.
> > 
> > I've run into this once, I seem to recall it can be a previous instance of
> > Leafnode running. Did you check running processes ?
> 
> Thanks for your advice.  I now think the problem is that my ISP's news
> server is dropping the connection while leafnode is "considering" the
> articles.

Sorry I wasn't more helpful.

I assume you've played with the leafnode config option for slow upstream servers
? One should be able to increase the time out variable.

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Re: Discover device drivers built into a kernel image

[s. keeling]

Incoming from Paulo M C Aragão:
> 
> How do I discover which device drivers are built into a given kernel
> image, not accessing the sources ?

Check the config file that came with it?

  cd /boot
  ls -l config*
  uname -a


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Re: Discover device drivers built into a kernel image

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On Tue, 31 May 2005 16:42:26 -0300
Paulo M C Aragão <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Apologies in advance for the basic question. I'm counting on the
> everlasting patience and generosity of the list members. I googled to
> no avail in search of an answer.
> 
> How do I discover which device drivers are built into a given kernel
> image, not accessing the sources ?

Have you tried /boot/config-`uname -r`?

HTH,
Jacob

Discover device drivers built into a kernel image

[Paulo M C Aragão]

Hi,

Apologies in advance for the basic question. I'm counting on the
everlasting patience and generosity of the list members. I googled to no
avail in search of an answer.

How do I discover which device drivers are built into a given kernel
image, not accessing the sources ?

Thanks
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Re: Corrupted Gecko print.xul?

[Ron Johnson]

On Tue, 31 May 2005 13:18:17 -0400
Patrick Wiseman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On 5/31/05, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Tue, 31 May 2005 12:18:33 -0400
> > Patrick Wiseman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > > Hi, all:
> > >
> > > I'm on a 'testing' system, recently updated.
> > >
> > > When I try to print a page from Mozilla-Firefox (using either Ctrl-P
> > > or the Printer icon), I get this error:
> > >
> > > XML Parsing Error: not well-formed
> > > Location: chrome://global/content/printdialog.xul
> > > Line Number 1, Column 2:
> > >
> > > followed by a bit of gibberish.
> > >
> > > How can I restore a good printdialog.xul (and how did mine get 
> > > corrupted?)?
> > 
> > Did you, by chance, upgrade FF without restarting it?
> 
> Indeed I did.  A restart fixed it.  Thanks!

Something similar happened to me with mozilla-browser and Edit->
"Find in this page".

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Re: Installing a program from source

[Rhys Hardwick]

On Tuesday 31 May 2005 19:20, Lee Braiden wrote:
> Use dh_make, if you can, or else checkinstall, to make and install an
> appropriate debian package.  Then, it can be uninstalled (often
> automatically) when a newer package is available.
checkinstall seems to be the better of the two, but as Cameron says, make 
uninstall is better if you have it, at least for me, as I am not installing 
many programs.

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Re: CUPS? Printer.

[Jay Zach]

Jim Hall wrote:


Brendan wrote:


On Wednesday 25 May 2005 12:02 pm, Stephen Queen wrote:


I can think of a couple of things to try here, depending on
how you do things.

1. When you run kprinter, make sure that the pull down list
about 75% down in the kprinter window that is labeled
"Print system currently used:" is set to CUPS.

2. From the application you are running, when you click on
file-print, try entering kprinter, rather than the lpr or lp
command. When the kprinter dialogue appears, check as in 1.
above.




I've done both of those many times, now and in the past.
It shows up, but no printing commences.





If I may, a comment. I had the printer in our church computer lab 
working. Now, it only works for the Windoze systems. I'm going to 
hazard a guess that something is broken and will eventually be fixed. 
If people with your levels of expertise and experience are puzzeled, I 
see no other conclusion.


Good luck,
Jim


Well, Ithe same thing, and started digging through the cups error log, 
and noticed the following errors occurring whenever I tried to print:


E [31/May/2005:13:35:46 -0500] Unable to convert file 0 to printable 
format for job 5!

I [31/May/2005:13:35:46 -0500] Hint: Do you have ESP Ghostscript installed?
I [31/May/2005:13:35:46 -0500] Hint: Try setting the LogLevel to "debug".


So I did a:

apt-get install gs-esp 


followed by a :

/etc/init.d/cupsys restart

and all seems to be well.

I'm not familiar enough with it to know why 'gs-esp' isn't a dependency 
or know why it used to work and doesn't now --- although I suspect it 
was removed with my last 'apt-get dist-upgrade' that I did to get kde-3.4



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Re: Installing a program from source

[Cameron Matheson]

You could (assuming you specified the entire path of
which xmms you wanted to load), but i would think it
would be a lot cleaner to 'make uninstall' in the xmms
cvs source tree when you decide to install the debian
version.

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> compile and install.
> 
> Is it ok to compile and install, and then, if
> another version is released 
> under apt that I want to install, just install it
> over the top, like 
> upgrading any other package.  Is there something
> specific I should do?
> 
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Re: Installing a program from source

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On Tuesday 31 May 2005 18:33, Rhys Hardwick wrote:
> Is it ok to compile and install, and then, if another version is released
> under apt that I want to install, just install it over the top, like
> upgrading any other package.  Is there something specific I should do?

Use dh_make, if you can, or else checkinstall, to make and install an 
appropriate debian package.  Then, it can be uninstalled (often 
automatically) when a newer package is available.

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Re: fortune bug ?

[=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Aur=E9lien_Camp=E9as?=]

Le mardi 31 mai 2005 à 16:09 +0200, Aurélien Campéas a écrit :
[...]
> a lot of crap here, but look at the last stat64 syscalls near the end :
> it looks like a bug related to localisation (fortune tries to open a
> file named "fr_FR.UTF ..." instead of a real file). Indeed for this
> system I had the funny idea to ask for encoding of all files in UTF-8
> instead of iso-latin-1 as I usually do.


So, am I the only one out there that uses UTF8-something as default
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Installing a program from source

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Hey there,

I want to install a program from source.  For example, I have downloaded the 
latest CVS snapshot of xmms to put my own patches onto.  I know how to 
compile and install.

Is it ok to compile and install, and then, if another version is released 
under apt that I want to install, just install it over the top, like 
upgrading any other package.  Is there something specific I should do?

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Re: Debian woody instalation problem

[Marty]

Software Development Group wrote:
I have installed DEBIAN woody on a new machine plus most of the software I 
could think of. When booting I can't get into X. When I manually do X I get 
normal messages (XF86Config-4 data) and then:


(EE) VESA(0): No matching modes
(EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration

Fatal error:
no screens found


Any ideas?




Check the X log file /var/log/XFree86.0.log.  9 times out of 10
the problem will be obvious.  Then reconfigure X accordingly, or
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Re: Corrupted Gecko print.xul?

[Patrick Wiseman]

On 5/31/05, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, 31 May 2005 12:18:33 -0400
> Patrick Wiseman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Hi, all:
> >
> > I'm on a 'testing' system, recently updated.
> >
> > When I try to print a page from Mozilla-Firefox (using either Ctrl-P
> > or the Printer icon), I get this error:
> >
> > XML Parsing Error: not well-formed
> > Location: chrome://global/content/printdialog.xul
> > Line Number 1, Column 2:
> >
> > followed by a bit of gibberish.
> >
> > How can I restore a good printdialog.xul (and how did mine get corrupted?)?
> 
> Did you, by chance, upgrade FF without restarting it?

Indeed I did.  A restart fixed it.  Thanks!

Patrick

Re: Corrupted Gecko print.xul?

[Ron Johnson]

On Tue, 31 May 2005 12:18:33 -0400
Patrick Wiseman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi, all:
> 
> I'm on a 'testing' system, recently updated.
> 
> When I try to print a page from Mozilla-Firefox (using either Ctrl-P
> or the Printer icon), I get this error:
> 
> XML Parsing Error: not well-formed
> Location: chrome://global/content/printdialog.xul
> Line Number 1, Column 2:
> 
> followed by a bit of gibberish.
> 
> How can I restore a good printdialog.xul (and how did mine get corrupted?)?

Did you, by chance, upgrade FF without restarting it?

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Re: Debian woody instalation problem

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On Tue, May 31, 2005 at 12:57:52PM -0400, Software Development Group wrote:
> I have installed DEBIAN woody on a new machine plus most of the software I 
> could think of. When booting I can't get into X. When I manually do X I get 
> normal messages (XF86Config-4 data) and then:
> 
> (EE) VESA(0): No matching modes
> (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration
> 
> Fatal error:
> no screens found
> 
> 
> Any ideas?

Install Sarge instead of Woody.  Sarge will officially be released in a
week or two.  The new installer has significantly better hardware
detection and a much better interface.

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Debian woody instalation problem

[Software Development Group]

I have installed DEBIAN woody on a new machine plus most of the software I 
could think of. When booting I can't get into X. When I manually do X I get 
normal messages (XF86Config-4 data) and then:


(EE) VESA(0): No matching modes
(EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration

Fatal error:
no screens found


Any ideas?


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Re: tun failing: SIOCSIFADDR: No such device

[Roberto C. Sanchez]

On Tue, May 31, 2005 at 09:05:18PM +1000, Geoff Reidy wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I am running sid and since upgrading kernel-image-2.6.11-1-k7 from version 
> 2.6.11-3 to 2.6.11-5 I can't get a tun interface to work.
> The tun module is loaded and the device is there:
> 
> crw-rw  1 root root 10, 200 2005-05-31 20:25 /dev/net/tun
> 
> but the interface won't come up:
> 
> # ifconfig tun0 127.20.0.1
> SIOCSIFADDR: No such device
> tun0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
> 
> Is it a bug or have I broken something?

Have you tried Google?  It could be one of several things and there are
literally hundreds of mailing list and support forum posts encompassing
pretty much every version of the kernel on every distro out there.  Try
that first.

-Roberto

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Re: CUPS? Printer.

[Jay Zach]

Jay Zach wrote:


Jay Zach wrote:


Jim Hall wrote:


Brendan wrote:


On Wednesday 25 May 2005 12:02 pm, Stephen Queen wrote:


I can think of a couple of things to try here, depending on
how you do things.

1. When you run kprinter, make sure that the pull down list
about 75% down in the kprinter window that is labeled
"Print system currently used:" is set to CUPS.

2. From the application you are running, when you click on
file-print, try entering kprinter, rather than the lpr or lp
command. When the kprinter dialogue appears, check as in 1.
above.






I've done both of those many times, now and in the past.
It shows up, but no printing commences.





If I may, a comment. I had the printer in our church computer lab 
working. Now, it only works for the Windoze systems. I'm going to 
hazard a guess that something is broken and will eventually be 
fixed. If people with your levels of expertise and experience are 
puzzeled, I see no other conclusion.


Good luck,
Jim




I don't do much printing , but my wife noticed this same problem on 
my desktop.  I had a working CUPS install to my HP1100 laserjet.  All 
of a sudden it won't print.  I get no error messages when sending a 
print job.  I tried sending a test job, and don't see it queue up, it 
just disappears.   When I go to the web interface and 'show completed 
jobs' , it shows the jobs as cancelled.  I'm running 
testing/unstable, and believe there may be a bug in the newest CUPS 
packages.  I've tried deleting and re-installing the printer with the 
same results.  I've been running Linux since '98, and Debian for 
about a year and a half, so I'm not exactly a noob either.  I even 
had a 30 printer CUPS print server set up at one time (although I 
can't say that I'm really a Cups 'expert'.  I'm not sure on how to 
file a bug report for CUPS either.




I believe that bug #219892 at bugs.debian.org is the same thing we are 
experiencing.  Reading through it, it sounds like it may be something 
with the gimpprint driver.  I'm going to fiddle with it a bit.  I'd 
like to contribute to a resolution, but not quite sure how, and I'm 
not sure if I'm quite good enough with printing to help out much.


Ooops, guess I'm wrong again... Everything from that bug report was a 
year old.  :(


I'm not really sure where to go with this problem , but it's frustrating.

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Re: Moving Debian Installation from Intel Celeron to Mobile AMD Sempron

[Roberto C. Sanchez]

On Tue, May 31, 2005 at 08:39:08PM +0530, Deepak, R. (Masatran, R.) wrote:
> I am using Debian "testing" on an Intel Celeron desktop. I intend to buy a
> Mobile AMD Sempron laptop, to which I will move the Debian installation.
> 
> For installation, should I use the "i386" binaries or should I use something
> else?
> 
> Does anyone have any experience with Debian on Mobile AMD Sempron (or on
> similar AMD processors)?

I once moved from a Pentium Pro to a VIA Cyrix-based CPU.  Choosing the
generic i386 will ensure that everything works at first.  Then you can
take the time to pick a more optimized kernel.

-Roberto
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Re: Horde login

[Roberto C. Sanchez]

On Tue, May 31, 2005 at 10:58:42AM +0200, Jacob Friis Larsen wrote:
> Having installed Horde i'm unable to login.
> Should I create a user in the db?
> 

Jacob,

Sarge or Woody? horde3 or horde2?  Have you read every document in
/usr/share/doc/horde?/?  Carefully?  Twice?  I have installed horde on a
few machines.  It is crucial that you read the docs becuase there are
many manual steps you need to take.  If you still have problems, post
specificly what they are to the list and I'll do my best to help you
out.

-Roberto

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aptitude --with-recommends

[Michael Haak]

I also understood the documentation to mean that the --with-recommends
option of aptitude would install any new recommended packages, but I
couldn't get it to work that way either.  As a workaround, after the
command to upgrade, I run three more:

aptitude -y -d install '(!~i)~Rrecommends:((~i)(~Brecommends))'
aptitude -y markauto '(!~i)~Rrecommends:((~i)(~Brecommends))'
aptitude -y install

The first one only downloads the uninstalled packages that are
recommended by installed packages with unsatisfied recommendations. 
Since they're not installed yet, I can still use the same expression to
mark them all automatically installed in the second command.  The final
command finishes up by actually doing the installation.

Hope this helps.
Mike


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Re: Leafnode timing out on news server that works with a news client.

[Adam Funk]

Steve A wrote:

> Run leafnode in full verbose mode to see what's happening. Then you should
> see what the "previous condition" is.
> 
> I've run into this once, I seem to recall it can be a previous instance of
> Leafnode running. Did you check running processes ?

Thanks for your advice.  I now think the problem is that my ISP's news
server is dropping the connection while leafnode is "considering" the
articles.

I'll check with the ISP's Linux-users' newsgroup, but I think I may have to
try something else (cnews?) instead of leafnode.


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Corrupted Gecko print.xul?

[Patrick Wiseman]

Hi, all:

I'm on a 'testing' system, recently updated.

When I try to print a page from Mozilla-Firefox (using either Ctrl-P
or the Printer icon), I get this error:

XML Parsing Error: not well-formed
Location: chrome://global/content/printdialog.xul
Line Number 1, Column 2:

followed by a bit of gibberish.

How can I restore a good printdialog.xul (and how did mine get corrupted?)?

Thanks
Patrick

Re: CUPS? Printer.

[Jay Zach]

Jay Zach wrote:


Jim Hall wrote:


Brendan wrote:


On Wednesday 25 May 2005 12:02 pm, Stephen Queen wrote:


I can think of a couple of things to try here, depending on
how you do things.

1. When you run kprinter, make sure that the pull down list
about 75% down in the kprinter window that is labeled
"Print system currently used:" is set to CUPS.

2. From the application you are running, when you click on
file-print, try entering kprinter, rather than the lpr or lp
command. When the kprinter dialogue appears, check as in 1.
above.





I've done both of those many times, now and in the past.
It shows up, but no printing commences.





If I may, a comment. I had the printer in our church computer lab 
working. Now, it only works for the Windoze systems. I'm going to 
hazard a guess that something is broken and will eventually be fixed. 
If people with your levels of expertise and experience are puzzeled, 
I see no other conclusion.


Good luck,
Jim




I don't do much printing , but my wife noticed this same problem on my 
desktop.  I had a working CUPS install to my HP1100 laserjet.  All of 
a sudden it won't print.  I get no error messages when sending a print 
job.  I tried sending a test job, and don't see it queue up, it just 
disappears.   When I go to the web interface and 'show completed jobs' 
, it shows the jobs as cancelled.  I'm running testing/unstable, and 
believe there may be a bug in the newest CUPS packages.  I've tried 
deleting and re-installing the printer with the same results.  I've 
been running Linux since '98, and Debian for about a year and a half, 
so I'm not exactly a noob either.  I even had a 30 printer CUPS print 
server set up at one time (although I can't say that I'm really a Cups 
'expert'.  I'm not sure on how to file a bug report for CUPS either.




I believe that bug #219892 at bugs.debian.org is the same thing we are 
experiencing.  Reading through it, it sounds like it may be something 
with the gimpprint driver.  I'm going to fiddle with it a bit.  I'd like 
to contribute to a resolution, but not quite sure how, and I'm not sure 
if I'm quite good enough with printing to help out much. 


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wear their climbing boots to work in case a mountain should suddenly
spring up in the middle of the machine room.

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amaroK 1.2 crashing too often

[Basajaun]

Hi all,

I am running Debian Sarge with kernel 2.6.8-2-686. When I discovered
amaroK, it was version 1.1 in Sarge, and 1.2 in Sid (I think). Although
1.2 has some nice features that 1.1 does not have, I waited until 1.2
eventually made it to Sarge (at present the same version of amaroK is
in both Sarge and Sid, that is, 1.2.3-1).

My problem is that it crashes every couple of ours or less, sometimes
even freezing the keyboard (not the mouse). I have read in this list
(http://makeashorterlink.com/?A48721C2B) that the libflac4 in Sid is
bugged, and that using liblac4 1.1.0-11 (from Sarge) is recommended,
but that is the one I am using. Also JuK, for example, does not crash,
so the problem does not seem to be related to that library.
Additionally, I have to say that amaroK 1.1 did not crash half as much
as 1.2 does.

One friend of mine runs amaroK 1.2 on Slackware 10.1, and it barely
crashes on him (although it does crash). If these crashes are a
"feature" of the amaroK package, I am amazed by the fact that it is
included in a distribution (Sarge) that is about to become Stable. In
fact, its instability should not entitle it to be anyware but Sid,
IMHO.

I would greatly appreciate any help to either fix this problem or
suggest a replacement. Right now I am using JuK, but I like amaroK
better... if it just didn't crash so much...

Thanks in advance,

 Basajaun


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No .jigdo files

[Sebastian Canagaratna]

Hi:

  For the last two weeks or so, the debian-unofficial site at ftp.fsn.hu
  gives only the .iso files. There is a jigdo folder, but no .jigdo
  files there. Is there any reason for this change? Are we now supposed
  to use jigo-lite to download the .iso file, or is there some temporary
  problem?

  Thanks for any information.

  Sebastian Canagaratna
  Department of Chemistry
  Ohio Northern University.


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Re: CUPS? Printer.

[Jay Zach]

Jim Hall wrote:


Brendan wrote:


On Wednesday 25 May 2005 12:02 pm, Stephen Queen wrote:


I can think of a couple of things to try here, depending on
how you do things.

1. When you run kprinter, make sure that the pull down list
about 75% down in the kprinter window that is labeled
"Print system currently used:" is set to CUPS.

2. From the application you are running, when you click on
file-print, try entering kprinter, rather than the lpr or lp
command. When the kprinter dialogue appears, check as in 1.
above.




I've done both of those many times, now and in the past.
It shows up, but no printing commences.





If I may, a comment. I had the printer in our church computer lab 
working. Now, it only works for the Windoze systems. I'm going to 
hazard a guess that something is broken and will eventually be fixed. 
If people with your levels of expertise and experience are puzzeled, I 
see no other conclusion.


Good luck,
Jim




I don't do much printing , but my wife noticed this same problem on my 
desktop.  I had a working CUPS install to my HP1100 laserjet.  All of a 
sudden it won't print.  I get no error messages when sending a print 
job.  I tried sending a test job, and don't see it queue up, it just 
disappears.   When I go to the web interface and 'show completed jobs' , 
it shows the jobs as cancelled.  I'm running testing/unstable, and 
believe there may be a bug in the newest CUPS packages.  I've tried 
deleting and re-installing the printer with the same results.  I've been 
running Linux since '98, and Debian for about a year and a half, so I'm 
not exactly a noob either.  I even had a 30 printer CUPS print server 
set up at one time (although I can't say that I'm really a Cups 
'expert'.  I'm not sure on how to file a bug report for CUPS either.


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nfs-common in sarge (Re: erroneous SM_UNMON request)

[Jose Luis Marin]

Hi there,

Package nfs-common in sarge is still at upstream version 1.0.6, which
has the "Received erroneous SM_UNMON request" bug (see
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=165744&archive=yes).

In essence, the bug is that when a nfs server receives a request to
"stop monitoring" a lock, the kernel lockd sends a SM_UNMON message to
statd; then statd performs an (erroneous) double-check, to see if such
request comes from localhost.  Since the server's name does not map to
127.0.0.1, statd logs an erroneous request.

The bug is closed & fixed in sid (nfs-common 1.0.7).

So my question is, ¿what's the recommended fix for this in sarge, if
1.0.7 does not make it for the final freeze?



TIA,

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Oops when Sony USB dvdrw is disconnected

[Thomas H. George]

Only my Sony DRX-510UL USB dvdrw drive is a problem.

I am using hotplug and can disconnect and reconnect jumpdrives and other 
USB devices with no problems.


If  I shutdown the system or disconnect the Sony drive I get the 
following messages:


   SCSI: Device offlined - not ready after error recovery: host 0 
channel 0 id 0 lum 0

   sr 0:0:0:0: Illegal state transition cancel -> offline

followed by a bunch of BAD messages and then a kernel Oops.

I have lived with this problem for some weeks since so long as I don't 
shut down the system or unplug the device it is working perfectly with 
both cdparanoia and cdrecord as /dev/sg0.


I have posted this problem twice previously and have received no 
responses.  If I am way off base I will continue to live with the 
problem but I do need to shut down my system occasionally - today to 
install a kernel built from the latest kernel-source-2.6.8 release and 
this evening when my grandson wants windows to play his computer game.   
After each Oops fsck must be run on all the partitions to repair the 
damage.  I can avoid the problem by falling back on a 2.4.26 kernel 
which has no diffilculty with the Sony device but then I have only USB1 
connections.


As noted in the previous postings the Oops is avoided if I install 
discorvey or discovery1 but


   If discovery is installed there is no mount point for the device!

   If discovery1 is installed the mount point is /dev/sr0 and the 
device can only be mounted to read data cd's.


If anyone has any suggestions as how to correct the problem or what 
references I should read to understand it I would greatly appreciate the 
help.


Tom George



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Moving Debian Installation from Intel Celeron to Mobile AMD Sempron

[Deepak, R. (Masatran, R.)]

I am using Debian "testing" on an Intel Celeron desktop. I intend to buy a
Mobile AMD Sempron laptop, to which I will move the Debian installation.

For installation, should I use the "i386" binaries or should I use something
else?

Does anyone have any experience with Debian on Mobile AMD Sempron (or on
similar AMD processors)?
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Re: grub vs lilo

[Marty]

Jon Roed wrote:

This is my lilo.conf file, i took out all the comments as requested.

lba32

boot=/dev/hda1


I use 'boot=/dev/hda' here.  The MBR is not specific to a partition.


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grub vs lilo

[Jon Roed]

This is my lilo.conf file, i took out all the comments as requested.

lba32

boot=/dev/hda1

root=/dev/hda1

bitmap=/boot/sid.bmp
bmp-colors=1,,0,2,,0
bmp-table=120p,173p,1,15,17
bmp-timer=254p,432p,1,0,0


install=bmp
prompt
timeout=50

map=/boot/map

vga=normal

image=/boot/vmlinuz
label="Lin img0"
read-only

image=/usr/src/kernel-source-2.6.10/arch/i386/boot/bzImage
label="Custom Kernel"
read-only

image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.27-1-386
label="Lin 2.4.27img1"
initrd=/boot/initrd.img-2.4.27-1-386
read-only

image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.10
label="Lin 2.6.10img2"
initrd=/boot/initrd.img-2.6.10
read-only

image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.10.old
label="Lin img3"
read-only

image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.11-1-k7
label="Lin 2.6.11img4"
initrd=/boot/initrd.img-2.6.11-1-k7
read-only

image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.8-2-k7
label="Lin 2.6.8img5"
  initrd=/boot/initrd.img-2.6.8-2-k7
read-only

image=/boot/vmlinuz.old
label="Lin img6"
read-only


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Re: grub vs lilo

[Marty]

Jon Roed wrote:

On May 31, 2005 12:44 am, Alex Malinovich wrote:

Grub is uninstalled, but it is still written to your MBR. You'll need to
run 'lilo' as root (no options necessary) to get it to re-write itself
to the MBR and overwrite Grub.

Just out of curiosity, why are you switching FROM grub TO lilo? Most
people (myself included) do just the opposite.


I tried running lilo (as root)  and i get two warnings:

Warning: boot record relocation beyond BPB is necessary: /dev/hda1
Warning: Unable to determine video adapter in use in the present system.


You might get more useful information with the -v option.  (Increase the number
of "-v's for more debug information.)


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Re: CUPS? Printer.

[Ionut Georgescu]

What if you try:

cp /etc/network/interfaces /etc/network/interfaces.bak
dpkg-reconfigure etherconf

This will regenerate interfaces according to the debian configuration.
Being an automated process, it should generate a correct file. Now try
again.

ifdown lo
ifup lo

Could you send me the output of strace ? It can be very usefull for such
debugging purposes.

Now, how to override the normal ifupdown configuration:

create /etc/init.d/my_localhost with these 2 lines

#!/bin/sh
ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1 up

then

chmod 755 /etc/init.d/my_localhost
ln -s /etc/init.d/my_localhost /etc/rcS.d/S38my_localhost

This script will be executed on boot, just before ifupdown (S39) is
executed.

Good Luck!
Ionut


On Mon, May 30, 2005 at 10:48:32PM -0400, David R. Litwin wrote:
> ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1  up worked. The other things you 
> suggest tell me that it can't read the interfaces file (which may or may not 
> be a problem unto itself).
> 
> Any way, how do I make it run ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1  up 
> with out my having to do that?
> 
> Thank you very much.
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Re: Debian Sarge 3.1

[Werner Mahr]

Am Dienstag, 31. Mai 2005 13:10 schrieb Chris Bannister:

> Are these steps correct?
>
> 1. apt-get update

Not necessary.

> 2. If necessary apt-get upgrade

Not necessary.

> 3. change sources.list to point to Sarge

OK

> 4. apt-get update

OK

> 5. apt-get upgrade

Not necessary.

> 6. perform step 5 as necessary

Not necessary.

> 7. apt-get dist-upgrade

OK, but I would suggest you to do an apt-get install apt before that.

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Re: fortune bug ?

[=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Aur=E9lien_Camp=E9as?=]

Le mardi 31 mai 2005 à 14:52 +0100, Lee Braiden a écrit :
> On Tuesday 31 May 2005 14:41, Aurélien Campéas wrote:
> > if (stat(file, &staat) == 0)
> > default:
> > perror("fortune: bad juju in is_existant");
> > exit(1);
> > Do someone knows a tool to expose the call graph of a C program ?
> 
> The easiest way might be to run it through strace (strace 2>log fortune), 
> find 
> (near the end of the log) where it writes that error message, then look for 
> the first stat() call before that in the same log.  Hopefully it'll show what 
> it's trying to access.
> 

good idea !


execve("/usr/games/fortune", ["fortune"], [/* 28 vars */]) = 0
uname({sys="Linux", node="eve", ...})   = 0
brk(0)  = 0x805
old_mmap(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 
0xb7fe9000
access("/etc/ld.so.nohwcap", F_OK)  = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
open("/etc/ld.so.preload", O_RDONLY)= -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
open("/etc/ld.so.cache", O_RDONLY)  = 3
fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=59815, ...}) = 0
old_mmap(NULL, 59815, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0xb7fda000
close(3)= 0
access("/etc/ld.so.nohwcap", F_OK)  = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
open("/usr/lib/librecode.so.0", O_RDONLY) = 3
read(3, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0p/\3\000"..., 512) = 512
fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=1279588, ...}) = 0
old_mmap(NULL, 1279048, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0xb7ea1000
old_mmap(0xb7fac000, 188416, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED, 3, 
0x10b000) = 0xb7fac000
close(3)= 0
access("/etc/ld.so.nohwcap", F_OK)  = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
open("/lib/tls/libc.so.6", O_RDONLY)= 3
read(3, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0`Z\1\000"..., 512) = 512
fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=1254468, ...}) = 0
old_mmap(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 
0xb7ea
old_mmap(NULL, 1264780, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0xb7d6b000
old_mmap(0xb7e95000, 36864, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED, 3, 
0x129000) = 0xb7e95000
old_mmap(0xb7e9e000, 7308, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, 
MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0xb7e9e000
close(3)= 0
set_thread_area({entry_number:-1 -> 6, base_addr:0xb7ea0800, limit:1048575, 
seg_32bit:1, contents:0, read_exec_only:0, limit_in_pages:1, seg_not_present:0, 
useable:1}) = 0
munmap(0xb7fda000, 59815)   = 0
stat64("[EMAIL PROTECTED]", 0xbfffcc5c)  = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
open("[EMAIL PROTECTED]", O_RDONLY)  = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
brk(0)  = 0x805
brk(0x8071000)  = 0x8071000
brk(0)  = 0x8071000
stat64("/usr/local/share/games/fortunes/[EMAIL PROTECTED]", 0xbfffc7ac) = -1 
EACCES (Permission denied)
dup(2)  = 3
fcntl64(3, F_GETFL) = 0x2 (flags O_RDWR)
fstat64(3, {st_mode=S_IFCHR|0620, st_rdev=makedev(136, 2), ...}) = 0
mmap2(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 
0xb7fe8000
_llseek(3, 0, 0xbfffc6a8, SEEK_CUR) = -1 ESPIPE (Illegal seek)
write(3, "fortune: bad juju in is_existant"..., 52fortune: bad juju in 
is_existant: Permission denied
) = 52
close(3)= 0
munmap(0xb7fe8000, 4096)= 0
exit_group(1)   = ?



a lot of crap here, but look at the last stat64 syscalls near the end :
it looks like a bug related to localisation (fortune tries to open a
file named "fr_FR.UTF ..." instead of a real file). Indeed for this
system I had the funny idea to ask for encoding of all files in UTF-8
instead of iso-latin-1 as I usually do.






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Re: Possibility of personalizing OpenOffice documents automatically?

[Gregory Seidman]

On Tue, May 31, 2005 at 12:36:51PM +0200, Herv? Piedvache wrote:
} On Tuesday 31 May 2005 12:08, Lee Braiden wrote:
} > On Tuesday 31 May 2005 11:06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
} > > No I want the operators to not be able to modify the original document
} > > ... And to have only a main administrator of the documents ...
} > > It's a kind of contact center, where people manage phone calls and for
} > > each call they will attribute to the customer a status ... and this
} > > status will produce a postal mail ... to be generated immediatly or by
} > > batch at the end of the day ... all the mail will be printed and put in
} > > wrap to be posted !
} > >
} > > It's clearer ? ;o)
} >
} > The usual way to do this sort of thing would be with a webserver running on
} > your intranet, which is linked to a database, and keeps a list of your
} > customers.  Staff can then pull up a webpage, click a button, and have the
} > server generate reports.
} 
} Yes ... marvelous ... but with what kind of tool do you manage the production 
} of the mail ? 
} Yes It'll be a web application .. no problem for this ... but I want to 
manage 
} about 100 mail style sheet ... and be able to do the redaction of thoses mail 
} easily ... and then have a system to produce them in file and print them ...
} 
} So how to do that ?

An OOo file is a zip file containing XML files. I don't have deep insight
into the XML schema used, but it is well-documented and with a little
examination of a sample file I find that it is pretty simple. Importantly,
simple (same-styled) spans of text in a document show up as actual text
strings in the XML. It is therefore possible to put in something like
X_1_X in the running text and decompress/find/replace/recompress to
produce a new file. Note that it is content.xml that you want to modify.

The following script works for at least a simple case, though I recommend
rewriting this for performance reasons (note that in this implementation
replacements should be listed one per line in the replacements file, in
order, and must not contain the # character):

#!/bin/sh

if test $# -ne 3
then
echo "Usage: $0   "
exit 1
fi

PROCDIR=/tmp/$$
EDFILE=$PROCDIR/edscr
export PROCDIR

mkdir $PROCDIR
awk '{ printf("1,$s#X_%d_X#%s#g\n", NR, $0) }' "$3" > $EDFILE
echo w >> $EDFILE
echo q >> $EDFILE
cp "$1" $PROCDIR/file.sxw
(
cd $PROCDIR
unzip file.sxw content.xml
ed -s content.xml < edscr
zip -r file.sxw content.xml
)
cp $PROCDIR/file.sxw "$2"
rm -rf $PROCDIR

} regards,
} Herv? Piedvache
--Greg


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Re: system.map files

[Peter Jay Salzman]

On Tue 31 May 05,  1:49 PM, Jon Dowland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> LeVA wrote:
> 
> >Hi!
> >
> >Would someone please tell me what are those /boot/System.map* files for?
> >
> >Thanks!
> >
> >Daniel
> > 
>
> The website   (via google) 
> describes it so well that any attempt to summarize would pale in 
> comparison. So I won't :)
 

Whoa!!!

Very nice complement.  Thanks, Jon.  It took me a long time to research all
that information.

You just made my morning!

Pete

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Re: fortune bug ?

[Lee Braiden]

On Tuesday 31 May 2005 14:41, Aurélien Campéas wrote:
> if (stat(file, &staat) == 0)
>   default:
>   perror("fortune: bad juju in is_existant");
>   exit(1);
> Do someone knows a tool to expose the call graph of a C program ?

The easiest way might be to run it through strace (strace 2>log fortune), find 
(near the end of the log) where it writes that error message, then look for 
the first stat() call before that in the same log.  Hopefully it'll show what 
it's trying to access.

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