Re: XOrg+Radeon = No Direct Rendering?

[seeker5528]

On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 09:53:47 +0100
Renato Serodio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Oh, I forgot about the xorg.conf file..
> 

I have a Radeon 8500 LE

The most significant differences between your and mine are the
following sections. 

> Section "Module"
>   Load"GLcore"
>   Load"bitmap"
>   Load"dbe"
>   Load"ddc"
>   Load"glx"
>   Load"dri"
> # Load"extmod"
>   Load"freetype"
>   Load"int10"
>   Load"record"
>   Load"type1"
>   Load"v4l"
>   Load"vbe"
>   SubSection  "extmod"
>   Option "omit xfree86-dga"
>   EndSubSection
> EndSection

Section "Module"
Load"bitmap"
Load"dbe"
Load"ddc"
Load"dri"
Load"evdev"
Load"extmod"
Load"freetype"
Load"glx"
Load"int10"
Load"record"
Load"type1"
Load"vbe"
EndSection

I have not GLcore line and direct rendering works fine for me. Also I
don't know what the purpose of 'Option "omit xfree86-dga"' was, but I
think it was dropped at the time X.org entered unstable or shortly after
in my configuration.

> 
> 
> Section "Device"
>   Identifier  "ATI Technologies, Inc. Radeon R250 Lf [FireGL 9000]"
>   Driver  "radeon"
>   BusID   "PCI:1:0:0"
> 
>   Option  "UseInternalAGPART" "yes"
>   Option  "RenderAccel" "true"
>   Option  "AccelMethod" "EXA"
> EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier  "ATI Technologies Inc Radeon R200 QL [Radeon
  8500 LE]"
Driver  "ati"
BusID   "PCI:1:0:0"
EndSection

I don't know if it is valid to specify radeon any more? I had a problem
with it at one point and when I did 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' it
wasn't shown as an option anymore. I never tried any of the extra
options so I don't have any input to give there.

Later, Seeker


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Re: XOrg+Radeon = No Direct Rendering?

[seeker5528]

On Thu, 9 Feb 2006 09:12:43 -0600
Jacob S <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I mentioned ppracer as a bit of a sidenote, since not all applications
> in Sid could handle Xorg's dri at first. Up until just recently,
> glxgears/glxinfo would show I had dri enabled in Xorg, but applications
> like ppracer would only show about 20fps (and cpu usage would go
> through the roof). 
> 
> If you prefer glxgears stats, though... I'm currently getting ~1400fps. 

Interesting. I have a Radeon 8500 LE and I get around 2095 with
glxgears an it's pretty constently within 2 or 3 frames either way.

Glxgears by it's self does not really seem like that much of an
indicator of what you can expect for performance in general though.

Later, Seeker


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Wireless Card on linux

[Deboo ^]

Hello,

I have a Compaq Armada with a Netgear wireless PC card (the one
which is linux supported), could someone detail the steps needed to
make it work fully?

And how to make both the wired lan and wireless lan work together. I
guess it has to do something with routing but not very sure. Last time
I made a script to make one interface down and other up, but that's a
pain for others to do who like to use the gui.

 I have the ndiswrapper already installed and detecting the card
hardware. What oither steps are needed, what commands etc and how to
configure?

Regards,
Deboo

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udev is ruining my life

[Mitchell Laks]

Hi,

I want to provoke some comment.  Maybe we can salvage this situation. 

(Mitchell dons his flame retardent  clothes and jumps into swimming pool).

I am getting creamed by udev. 

I just installed sarge on a ibook. I upgraded to sid and upgraded to latest 
debian kernel 2.6.15. I then tried to get alsa working. I was killed by "no 
device" for sound. 

apt-get remove --purge udev

Then I could get some sound.

I have about 15 sarge servers, about 10 terabytes of data stored on sarge 
boxen. 

I set up new Sarge systems all the time, system on a ide single drive and then  
create storage raids on separate drives. 
If I try on a fresh install of sarge, then when I try to run
mdadm -Cv /dev/md0 -l1 -n2 /dev/sda1 /dev/sda2 
or
mdadm -Cv /dev/md0 -l5 -n4 /dev/sda1 /dev/sda2 /dev/sdc1 /dev/sdd1

Guess what I get???

"no device /dev/md0"

So guess what I do? 

apt-get remove --purge udev

Then I reboot and now I have /dev/md0.

This is crazy. Why cant udev just leave us alone in basic situations. 

We all need sound. We all can use software raid. Why cant udev meet our needs 
out of the box? Why are we being tortured?

I have gamely tried to  go along with   udev. I have dutifully read the udev 
documentation. I have read the original articles proposing it. I have read 
flamewars about it. I have even tried vainly to understand  and create rules.

But frankly, I feel that there devices I am talking about are so basic and the 
whole idea of devices should not be so complicated.

Now we cant upgrade debian provided kernels beyond 2.6.11 without udev? Why is 
this a prerequisite?? I can install my own kernel without it.

Devices are a basic thing, usually dealt with at initial system put together, 
or perhaps when I plug in a usb device, that it is a special annoying 
headache to spend days to figure these special rules things out. 

.

MItchell


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Re: source for downloadable music?

[Matthew Lenz]

www.emusic.com no drm.   not going to have every last song you'll want but 
they ahve a decent selection.  or did last time I looked


-Matt

- Original Message - 
From: "Ross Boylan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Cc: "Ross Boylan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 12:17 AM
Subject: source for downloadable music?



I want to make a CD of songs for my daughter's birthday party.  Is
there a site that has a good selection of songs that will work with
Linux?  I'm willing to pay for the songs.

Yahoo has a music site but it seems to require software that they say
only works on XP (though I'm willing to try wine, if it worked).  My
vague understanding of Apple's iTunes are that they tend to produce
stuff that's locked to a specific piece of hardware; I'm not sure if
it's OS specific.

Any suggestions?

Ross Boylan


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Re: debugger command history

[linux china]

Thanks you very much, libterm-readline-perl-perl solved my issue.
On 2/10/06, Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
linux china wrote:> I use 'perl -d ' to debug my code, and use up and down arrow to view the> debugger command that I have inputed, but in my Debian 
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source for downloadable music?

[Ross Boylan]

I want to make a CD of songs for my daughter's birthday party.  Is
there a site that has a good selection of songs that will work with
Linux?  I'm willing to pay for the songs.

Yahoo has a music site but it seems to require software that they say
only works on XP (though I'm willing to try wine, if it worked).  My
vague understanding of Apple's iTunes are that they tend to produce
stuff that's locked to a specific piece of hardware; I'm not sure if
it's OS specific.

Any suggestions?

Ross Boylan


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Re: How to get SSH to work on my box?

[Edward Shornock]

On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 09:27:58PM -0800, Tyson Varosyan wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> I have the 2 CD text-only load of Debian kernel 2.6. I am looking for
> information on how to get SSH to work on the machine. Ideally, I would like
> to start up on it's own when the box is powered on. 
> 
> I did a search on the debian support forums, but the links to guides that I
> found were all dead. Google did not have much debian-specific stuff.

It should just *work* once it's installed.


apt-get/aptitude/wajig/{and others} are the programs that you can use to
install software in debian from a repository.  Just type

apt-get install ssh 

to install the ssh package which includes both the client and the
server.  If you want it to run at start up, pick "yes" when prompted.

Might be useful:
http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/apt-get-intro.html



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Setting up autofs....

[Rob Blomquist]

I am following the page at http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/127 
on setting up autofs to work with udev, so flashdrives and card readers can 
be auto mounted.

(Please note, automounting humbugs are not appreciated voicing their opinion 
in this thread. If you want to help me out, great, but no soapboxing.)

Here is the contents of /var/log/messages as the card reader, then the card 
are detected:
Feb  9 21:47:36 localhost kernel: usb 3-3: new high speed USB device using 
address 4
Feb  9 21:47:37 localhost kernel: scsi1 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage 
devices
Feb  9 21:47:37 localhost kernel:   Vendor: SMSC  Model: 223 U HS-CF   
Rev: 1.95
Feb  9 21:47:37 localhost kernel:   Type:   Direct-Access  
ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Feb  9 21:47:37 localhost kernel: Attached scsi removable disk sda at scsi1, 
channel 0, id 0, lun 0
Feb  9 21:47:37 localhost kernel:   Vendor: SMSC  Model: 223 U HS-MS   
Rev: 1.95
Feb  9 21:47:37 localhost kernel:   Type:   Direct-Access  
ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Feb  9 21:47:37 localhost scsi.agent[5750]:  sd_mod: loaded sucessfully 
(for disk)
Feb  9 21:47:37 localhost kernel: Attached scsi removable disk sdb at scsi1, 
channel 0, id 0, lun 1
Feb  9 21:47:37 localhost kernel:   Vendor: SMSC  Model: 223 U HS-SM   
Rev: 1.95
Feb  9 21:47:37 localhost kernel:   Type:   Direct-Access  
ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Feb  9 21:47:37 localhost scsi.agent[5769]:  sd_mod: loaded sucessfully 
(for disk)
Feb  9 21:47:37 localhost kernel: Attached scsi removable disk sdc at scsi1, 
channel 0, id 0, lun 2
Feb  9 21:47:37 localhost kernel:   Vendor: SMSC  Model: 223 U HS-SD/MMC   
Rev: 1.95
Feb  9 21:47:37 localhost kernel:   Type:   Direct-Access  
ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Feb  9 21:47:37 localhost kernel: Attached scsi removable disk sdd at scsi1, 
channel 0, id 0, lun 3
Feb  9 21:47:37 localhost scsi.agent[5837]:  sd_mod: loaded sucessfully 
(for disk)
Feb  9 21:47:38 localhost scsi.agent[5818]:  sd_mod: loaded sucessfully 
(for disk)
Feb  9 21:47:38 localhost usb.agent[5850]:  usb-storage: already loaded
Feb  9 21:47:54 localhost kernel: SCSI device sdd: 498176 512-byte hdwr 
sectors(255 MB)
Feb  9 21:47:54 localhost kernel: sdd: assuming Write Enabled
Feb  9 21:47:54 localhost kernel: SCSI device sdd: 498176 512-byte hdwr 
sectors(255 MB)
Feb  9 21:47:54 localhost kernel: sdd: assuming Write Enabled
Feb  9 21:47:54 localhost kernel:  /dev/scsi/host1/bus0/target0/lun3: p1

I see where it has been picked up and become /dev/sdd1.

Now, I have both udev and autofs running and configured almost exactly like 
the page at debian-administration.org. They are just modified for my 
hardware.

What could be going on? I thought I would see kernel messages for the 
connection with autofs, but /var/autofs/ does not have removable in it.
Here's what's in the significant files.

timmy:~# cat /etc/udev/rules.d/local.rules
BUS="scsi", SYSFS{model}="PNY USB 2.0 FD", KERNEL="sd?1", NAME="%k", 
SYMLINK="flashdrive"
BUS="scsi", SYSFS{model}="223 U HS-CF", NAME{all_partitions}="card_cf"
BUS="scsi", SYSFS{model}="223 U HS-MS", NAME{all_partitions}="card_ms"
BUS="scsi", SYSFS{model}="223 U HS-SM", NAME{all_partitions}="card_sm"
BUS="scsi", SYSFS{model}="223 U HS-SD/MMC", NAME{all_partitions}="card_sd"

timmy:~# cat /etc/auto.master
#
# $Id: auto.master,v 1.4 2005/01/04 14:36:54 raven Exp $
#
# Sample auto.master file
# This is an automounter map and it has the following format
# key [ -mount-options-separated-by-comma ] location
# For details of the format look at autofs(5).
#/misc  /etc/auto.misc --timeout=60
#/smb   /etc/auto.smb
#/misc  /etc/auto.misc
#/net   /etc/auto.net

/var/autofs/removable   /etc/auto.removable --timeout=2timmy:~#

timmy:~# cat /etc/udev/rules.d/local.rules
BUS="scsi", SYSFS{model}="PNY USB 2.0 FD", KERNEL="sd?1", NAME="%k", 
SYMLINK="flashdrive"
BUS="scsi", SYSFS{model}="223 U HS-CF", NAME{all_partitions}="card_cf"
BUS="scsi", SYSFS{model}="223 U HS-MS", NAME{all_partitions}="card_ms"
BUS="scsi", SYSFS{model}="223 U HS-SM", NAME{all_partitions}="card_sm"
BUS="scsi", SYSFS{model}="223 U HS-SD/MMC", NAME{all_partitions}="card_sd"

Thanks,

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Re: How to get SSH to work on my box?

[Brent Clark]

Tyson Varosyan wrote:

Hi All,

I have the 2 CD text-only load of Debian kernel 2.6. I am looking for
information on how to get SSH to work on the machine. Ideally, I would like
to start up on it's own when the box is powered on. 


I did a search on the debian support forums, but the links to guides that I
found were all dead. Google did not have much debian-specific stuff.


Hi

What do you mean by "work".

Do you mean you want sshd installed and working, or do you mean the ssh client.

You need to be more specific in your question.

Check you apt cache to see if it available
 e.g.

apt-cache search ssh

If you get the packages available then

apt-get install ssh -y

HTH

Kind Regards
Brent Clark


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How to get SSH to work on my box?

[Tyson Varosyan]

Hi All,

I have the 2 CD text-only load of Debian kernel 2.6. I am looking for
information on how to get SSH to work on the machine. Ideally, I would like
to start up on it's own when the box is powered on. 

I did a search on the debian support forums, but the links to guides that I
found were all dead. Google did not have much debian-specific stuff.

Thanks,

Tyson Varosyan
Technical Manager, Uptime Technical Solutions LLC.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.up-times.com
206-715-TECH (8324)

UpTime/OnTime/AnyTime 



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Re: Struggling with Xf86config

[Jonathan Kaye]

pinecone wrote:

> I am unable to get X going from the installer because of a mouse
> problem.. The mouse is a plain old wheel mouse from acer but the install
> cacks saying there is no /dev/input/mice, even after lengthy running of
> Xf86config and choosing most of the mouse options. What is needed here?
> 
> pinecone
Hi Pinecone,
It would help if you gave us some details. Which Debian are you running, how
your mouse is connected (ps2?, usb? serial?) etc. I'm using 2.6.12 Etch
(now with Xorg not XFree86) with a PS2 optical mouse and scrollwhell and
the xorg.conf file looks like this:
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Configured Mouse"
Driver  "mouse"
Option  "CorePointer"
Option  "Device""/dev/psaux"
Option  "Protocol"  "imPS/2"
Option  "Emulate3Buttons"   "true"
Option  "ZAxisMapping"  "4 5"
EndSection
Cheers,
Jonathan


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Re: _some_ DVDs won't play

[Andrew Porter]

mplayer shows some of the same problems,
but I don't think my instalation of it is completely correct.

Will experiment with vlc; didn't know about it.  

ogle is not installed correctly.  

thanks / Andrew Porter, [EMAIL PROTECTED]


On Wed, 08 Feb 2006 20:42:19 -0800
Andrew Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Troubles playing about half of the 12 _Lord of the Rings_ DVDs
> in a set purchased from amazon,




have you tried anything besides xine?  maybe vlc or mplayer?  vlc is a 
pretty easy install, #apt-get install vlc


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Struggling with Xf86config

[pinecone]

I am unable to get X going from the installer because of a mouse 
problem.. The mouse is a plain old wheel mouse from acer but the install 
cacks saying there is no /dev/input/mice, even after lengthy running of 
Xf86config and choosing most of the mouse options. What is needed here?


pinecone


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Postfix failing to install in Etch

[Carl Fink]

I ran "apt-get upgrade" yesterday.  Postix upgraded, but fails to start
with:

Running newaliases
Starting Postfix Mail Transport Agent: postfixpostfix/postfix-script: fatal:
usage: postfix start (or stop, reload, abort, flush, check, set-permissions,
upgrade-configuration)
 failed!
invoke-rc.d: initscript postfix, action "start" failed.
dpkg: error processing postfix (--configure):
 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1

Now I can't upgrade, for instance, lsb because it depends on
mail-transfer-agent, but an unconfigured Postfix doesn't supply one.

So, this appears to be bug 348645, only that's supposedly fixed in 2.2.8-6,
and Apt just installed 2.2.8-9.

Should I reopen 348645?  I await opinions?
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   government when it deserves it."
  - Mark Twain


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Re: netinst question

[dafydd hughes]

Hi all

Thanks everybody for your help.  Turns out all I needed to do was  
execute a shell.  Whee-hawken!  I'm off.


I'm sure I'll have a ton more questions, so we'll talk again soon.

cheers
dafydd

www.sideshowmedia.ca


On 9-Feb-06, at 5:45 PM, cga wrote:


Andrei Popescu wrote:


On Thu, 9 Feb 2006 16:06:43 -0500
dafydd hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Hi folks

I'm new here, so please point me in the right direction if this   
question's answered elsewhere.


This is my first attempt at installing debian via internet -  
I've  been using the Agnula distribution, but for various reasons  
I'm  trying the netinst install.  Trouble is, my laptop (hp  
omnibook xe2,  p2 333, 3com cardbus network card) isn't  
automatically bringing up  eth0 after the base install, so the  
fist steps of apt configuration  fail because it can't find the  
mirror.


Is there a way to interrupt the install program at this point  
and  manually bring up the interface with ifup?  I tried ctl-alt- 
F6 and  logged in as root.  ifup eth0 works, but I can't figure  
out how to  return to the install program after that.


Again, I apologize if this is covered elsewhere - I couldn't  
find  anything in the archives.


cheers
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Did you try Alt-F1, Alt-F2, ..., Alt-F5 (in console mode you don't  
need Ctrl)?


Andrei

When you get to the partitioning step which comes just after  
network configuration you can "go back" to return to the install  
"main menu". Last-but-one entry lets you start a shell. Not sure if  
you can access ifup but you do have access to the ifconfig and ip  
commands. Hopefully that will be sufficient to configure eth0 to  
your liking.. Once you're done, you can type "exit" to return to  
the main menu and resume the installation. I haven't checked but in  
cases like this the "expert mode" install may give you more control/ 
flexibility..?


HTH


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Re: http://ftp.debian-unofficial.org/debian/dists/sarge/Release.gpg problem.

[Edward Shornock]

On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 02:40:37PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote:
> Edward Shornock wrote:
> > As demonstrated in my earlier follow-up, this is a three step process.
> > 1) Import the missing key with gpg --recv-keys [keyid]
> > 2) Add the key to apt-key with "gpg --export [keyid]|apt-key add -"
> > 3) run "apt-get update"
> 
> Step one is inneceesary, just download the key and apt-key add it.

I was using step one to download the key.  I know that for "official"
Debian repositories, all one has to do is download
http://ftp-master.debian.org/ziyi_key_2006.asc and add that with
apt-key.  For the "unofficial" repositories, is there another way to
download the key without importing it into GPG? 

I've been doing it "my way" because step one seems to me to be the
easiest way to download the missing key. If there's an easier way, I'm
all for it. :)


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xmms caught laryngitis

[hendrik]

xmms stopped making any sounds as of a week or two ago.  Other audio 
players still work, but xmms goes through all the motions of playing 
audio files without a peep.

It's not mission critical, but disconcerting.

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Re: your mail - Matrox video card help on Alpha

[Shawn Lamson]

On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 12:04:20 -0600
Steve Block <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 12:29:23PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >Which video card is supported for a DEC Alpha?
> >X-Accept-Language: en
> >Priority: normal
> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> >Content-Disposition: inline
> >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> >
> >I have installed Debian Linux v. 3.1 (sarge) for an Alpha computer system.  
> >I am using a DEC Alpha motherboard 164-LX running at 533 MHZ.  I have tried 
> >using a Matrox Millennium II video card in both MGA and VGA modes and have 
> >been getting an xfree86 server crash saying that the "screen is not found".  
> >I have also tried an older Trident video card running it in VGA mode with 
> >the same error.
> >
> >I would like to know which video card is supported for a DEC Alpha by Debian 
> >Linux without having to modify the kernel?  I am sure that someone is out 
> >there who is actually running a system like mine with a working video card?  
> >I would like to know the make and model of the card that you are using and 
> >the extent to which it works.
> >
> >I am looking ahead for a reply that can be helpful to me in getting this 
> >system running in x-windows mode with bothe the KDE and Gnome desktops.
> 
> I can't answer your question but I can suggest that you use an 
> appropriate subject in your emails so that those who just skim the list 
> can see what you're asking about.

true 'dat... OP "screen not found" wouldn't have anything to do with the video 
drivers necessarily.. it could mean that there is no screen defined in 
/etc/X11/xorg.conf

 
# **
# Screen sections
# **

# Any number of screen sections may be present.  Each describes
# the configuration of a single screen.  A single specific screen section
# may be specified from the X server command line with the "-screen"
# option.
Section "Screen"
Identifier  "Screen 1"
Device  "rosewill gf 6600"
Monitor "Sceptre"
DefaultDepth 24

> 

you can try #xorgconfig if you haven't configured an xorg.conf file yet... have 
your specs handy.



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Re: _some_ DVDs won't play

[Shawn Lamson]

On Wed, 08 Feb 2006 20:42:19 -0800
Andrew Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Troubles playing about half of the 12 _Lord of the Rings_ DVDs
> in a set purchased from amazon,
> and on its replacement,
> and on a third set set from Best Buy.
> 
> Drive: a Sony CD-RW, CRX320EE, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM 
> Using libdvdcss, from libdvdcss2_1.2.8-1_i386.deb
> xine-ui 0.99.3-1
> 
> Most of the bad discs just won't play. 
> On some discs, the video has a lot of square holes in it.
> On some, the DVD makes xine crash.
> One disk even made X crash.  
> 
> No trouble playing almost all other DVDs.
> A borrowed set of LOTR discs will play on all machines.
> Don't know when they were purchased, but not recently.  
> 
> QUESTIONS: 
> 
> Are the failures in reading LOTR discs 
> known to be deliberately caused by the manufacturer, 
> perhaps in revenge for DeCSS?  
> So that common equipment will play the DVDs,
> but not read them error-free?  
> A sort of kludgy copy-protection scheme?  
> 
> Just speculating ... 
> 
> I was told recently that the cheapest DVD drives
> have the best success rates and the least failures.
> 
> Any experience from the list? 
> Better to buy trash than quality,
> because trashy drives work better? 



> All disks play just fine on a stand-alone DVD player connected to the TV set.
> 
> > Have you tried them on a stand alone DVD player yet?  That seems like
> > the logical next step in troubleshooting, y'know, making sure that they
> > weren't from a bad batch of disks at the factory.  Yeah, I know.  It's
> > three seperate sets from at least two different vendors (you didn't say
> > whether or not the replacement set was from the same seller on Amazon).
> > But there's still a small chance that it could just be bad disks anyway.
> >

have you tried anything besides xine?  maybe vlc or mplayer?  vlc is a pretty 
easy install, #apt-get install vlc

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Re: ntp strangeness

[hendrik]

On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 10:52:18AM -0600, John Hasler wrote:
> hendrik writes:
> > [Chrony} doesn't seem to talk through IP-masquerading.
> 
> It does for me (I'm the Chrony maintainer).  What is your configuration?

Dead, I'm afraid -- I was describing the state of affairs before mu 
gateway was broken into last December, and I wiped my gateway machine 
clean to prevent further trouble for myself and others.  I seem to 
recall that at the time I tried running chrony through masquerading the 
gateway machine was running woody.  It could be that masquerading back 
then wasn't handling the relevant port(s) properly?  Even if I were to 
look at my forensic backup. it would only tell me what was up after I 
stopped trying to symch everything with the outside world.

Anyway, it's more important to me that my machines are properly synched 
with each other than with the rest of the world, so I think this 
two-stage approach is probably the one I want.

By the way, chrony is great.  Thanks.

Would it help to see my old masquerading configuration, hand-built with 
iptables?

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Re: Backport Questions

[Marc Shapiro]

Andrei Popescu wrote:


On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 13:27:15 -0800
Marc Shapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

[major snip]

 

ALSO, apt-cache show says that it is for desktop integration. 
Is that for Gnome and KDE? I am using fvwm2 and do not use an integrated 
desktop environment. Do I even need that package?
   



AFAIK Debian has a menu system that does not depend on the Environment/Window 
Manager. I'm using IceWM and I still get the new menu entries when I install 
something (after I restart IceWM).

Andrei
 

I do, too, which is why it suddenly occured to me that maybe this was 
not a problem after all.


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Re: ntp strangeness

[Gene Heskett]

On Thursday 09 February 2006 15:37, Chris Howie wrote:
>Chris Howie wrote:
>> Jacob S wrote:
>>>After I did an apt-get update/upgrade Monday I've had problem
>>> keeping the time set properly on my computer. I have both ntpdate
>>> and ntp-server installed, running a strictly Sid machine.
>>
>> Welcome to the club.  #debian suggested booting with 'noacpi
>> nolacpi' but that does nothing.  =(
>
>Yeah, and that's why it didn't work.  I meant to say "noapic nolapic",
> and apparently I made the same typo in lilo.
>
>Whoever picked those acronyms needs to be shot.

Where do I send the shells, and what caliber?  Damn thats confusing.

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domain in resolv.conf using resolvconf

[Ryan Nowakowski]

I'm trying to get "domain mydomain.com" to show up in my resolv.conf.
I'm using Sarge with resolvconf.  Even if I put dns-domain in my
/etc/network/interfaces file, domain doesn't show up in resolv.conf.
Any ideas?

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instructions for switching to kernel 2.6 on Debian Sarge?

[Daniel B.]

Where are instructions on how to upgrade to kernel 2.6 (ideally,
specifically in Debian's Sarge release)?

The instructions I've found so far are quite sketchy.  (For example,
although I have found instructions that tell me that my mouse is no
longer at /dev/psaux but is now at /dev/input/mouse (or .../mouse0
or .../mice), they don't say what all I need to do to get /dev/input
or /dev/input/mouse to appear in the first place.)

Are there any Debian-specific instructions out there (e.g., specifying
which packages (beside udev and its prerequisites) I need to install
and what other changes I might need to make (e.g., mounting new special
file systems (/sys? /dev?), dropping or changing old special filesystems
or real directoryes (/dev?), etc))?

If not, are they any non-Debian-specific instructions that explain
what all is needed?

(This is for a fairly basic desktop system--non-USB keyboard and
mouse, USB only for camera and other lower-priority devices.)

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Re: netinst question

[cga]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[...]


Quite brave to install debian from the INET with a laptop IMHO.

 

one's mvv..  new to debian and yet I got sarge net-installed w/o a 
glitch in about ten minutes - needless to say this is an old machine and 
I stay away from the gnome/kde behemoths..


everything pcmcia - nic and scsi cd burner were recognized and 
configured out of the box..


for obscure reasons the etch installer does not do such a seamless job 
of it.. see my other post for details..





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Network issues

[Antonio Rafael C. Paiva]

Hi everyone.

I'm having network problems, with my ethernet connection (Accton 
something, uses "tulip" module) and with the wireless card (Asus 
WL-100). I'm running Debian testing, but kernel 2.8.14.


I've been using my laptop as a desktop replacement for a while and 
everything worked fine but recently I took my laptop to the lab, 
connected with ethernet (everything fine), even did an update, but 
when I returned home the computer fails to get an IP (through DHCP). I 
already got a similar behavior some time ago when I tried different 
kernels.


Wireless card was also properly configured before but I did used 
recently until yesterday, now the interface doesn't show up when I 
plug the pcmcia card on. No messages in the system log! The problem 
might be with the udev thing, which I don't fully understand, and have 
no idea how to use it.


Any ideas are most welcome.
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Re: netinst question

[cga]

Andrei Popescu wrote:


On Thu, 9 Feb 2006 16:06:43 -0500
dafydd hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 


Hi folks

I'm new here, so please point me in the right direction if this  
question's answered elsewhere.


This is my first attempt at installing debian via internet - I've  
been using the Agnula distribution, but for various reasons I'm  
trying the netinst install.  Trouble is, my laptop (hp omnibook xe2,  
p2 333, 3com cardbus network card) isn't automatically bringing up  
eth0 after the base install, so the fist steps of apt configuration  
fail because it can't find the mirror.


Is there a way to interrupt the install program at this point and  
manually bring up the interface with ifup?  I tried ctl-alt-F6 and  
logged in as root.  ifup eth0 works, but I can't figure out how to  
return to the install program after that.


Again, I apologize if this is covered elsewhere - I couldn't find  
anything in the archives.


cheers
dafydd



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Did you try Alt-F1, Alt-F2, ..., Alt-F5 (in console mode you don't need Ctrl)?

Andrei
 

When you get to the partitioning step which comes just after network 
configuration you can "go back" to return to the install "main menu". 
Last-but-one entry lets you start a shell. Not sure if you can access 
ifup but you do have access to the ifconfig and ip commands. Hopefully 
that will be sufficient to configure eth0 to your liking.. Once you're 
done, you can type "exit" to return to the main menu and resume the 
installation. I haven't checked but in cases like this the "expert mode" 
install may give you more control/flexibility..?


HTH


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Re: Disk checks on restart

[Bill Marcum]

On Wed, Feb 08, 2006 at 06:32:24PM -0500, Tony Heal wrote:
> I have a server (woody) that is rarely restarted, but when it is a disk
> check is preformed that can take as log as 20 minutes. I believe it is
> running fsck at boot up before mounting  the partitions and when it gets to
> /var (92GB) and /opt (92GB) it take it a while to complete each. So I have 2
> questions.
>  
> 1. Is it actually running fsck
Probably.

> 2. is there an online way to perform these checks so that it takes less time
> to restart when required.
>  
(1) Use tune2fs to set how often a full fsck is done, based on the 
number of mounts or the amount of time since the last one.
(2) Convert your filesystems from ext2 to ext3, if your kernel supports 
it (tune2fs -j).
(3) You can change the last field of the line in /etc/fstab to zero, so 
the filesystem will not be checked at boot.
(4) You can run fsck on an unmounted filesystem or one that is mounted 
read-only.


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Re: Pictures, music = video

[Ron Johnson]

On Thu, 2006-02-09 at 22:43 +0100, Luis Fernando Llana Díaz wrote:
> Hello,
>   I want to combine some photgraphs with music to obtain a movie that I can 
> record in a video CD or a DVD (I plan to play it in a ordinary DVD player). I 
> am wondering is there is a software to do it easely.

A slideshow creator?

$ wajig search slideshow dvd | sort
dvd-slideshow - tools to create dvd slideshow with menus
kipi-plugins - image manipulation/handling plugins for KIPI aware
programs
qdvdauthor - GUI frontend for dvdauthor and other related tools


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Re: instructions for switching to kernel 2.6 on Debian Sarge?

[Digby Tarvin]

I can only speak from personal experience, but on my Sarge 2.6.8-2-386:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc/X11$ uname -a
Linux voyager3 2.6.8-2-386 #1 Tue Aug 16 12:46:35 UTC 2005 i586 GNU/Linux
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc/X11$ ls -l /dev/psaux
crw-rw  1 root root 10, 1 2006-02-06 15:49 /dev/psaux

And from my /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 which works on 2.4 or 2.6:
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Configured Mouse"
Driver  "mouse"
Option  "CorePointer"
Option  "Device""/dev/psaux"
Option  "Protocol"  "PS/2"
Option  "Emulate3Buttons"   "true"
Option  "ZAxisMapping"  "4 5"
EndSection

I do seem to have /dev/input/mouse0, but it doesn't seem that I
need to use it..

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc/X11$ ls -l /dev/input
total 0
crw-rw  1 root root 13,  64 2006-02-06 15:49 event0
crw-rw  1 root root 13,  65 2006-02-06 15:49 event1
crw-rw  1 root root 13,  66 2006-02-06 15:50 event2
crw-rw  1 root root 13,  63 2006-02-06 15:49 mice
crw-rw  1 root root 13,  32 2006-02-06 15:49 mouse0
crw-rw  1 root root 13, 128 2006-02-06 15:49 ts0

Perhaps I was just lucky and by installing 2.6 from the start
the installation process did everything for me...


Regards,
DigbyT

On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 04:59:23PM -0500, Daniel B. wrote:
> Digby Tarvin wrote:
> >I didn't think there was much more to it than just doing a
> > apt-get intall kernel-image-2.6.8
> 
> Actually, there is (or sure seems to be).
> 
> As I mentioned, the documentation that I found did warn me that my
> mouse device (/dev/psaux) would change (and therefore gpm and X might
> break), but the device the documentation said the mouse would change
> to (/dev/input/mouse...) doesn't exist, and the documentation didn't
> say anything about what one needs to do to get it to exist (install
> packages?  run a new equivalent of MAKEDEV?  mount /sys or similar?).
> 
> 
> Daniel

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Re: netinst question

[Mark-Walter]

Hi List,

> I'm new here, so please point me in the right direction if this  
> question's answered elsewhere.

you're very welcome :-)

> This is my first attempt at installing debian via internet - I've  
> been using the Agnula distribution, but for various reasons I'm  
> trying the netinst install.  Trouble is, my laptop (hp omnibook xe2,  
> p2 333, 3com cardbus network card) isn't automatically bringing up  
> eth0 after the base install, so the fist steps of apt configuration  
> fail because it can't find the mirror.

try to burn an image from debian.org in the case you can't get it to
work. With a fresh install a not detected network card is not important
(only for /etc/init.d/networking).

Then you can log in to make: 

ifconfig -a 

and you can load the appropriate kernel module (but afterward's you should let 
modules out of the kernel due to security reason's in the case you're using the 
internet).

> Is there a way to interrupt the install program at this point and  
> manually bring up the interface with ifup?  I tried ctl-alt-F6 and  
> logged in as root.  ifup eth0 works, but I can't figure out how to  
> return to the install program after that.

Is your installer running ? Try ps -ax to have look what processes are
running.

> Again, I apologize if this is covered elsewhere - I couldn't find  
> anything in the archives.

Quite brave to install debian from the INET with a laptop IMHO.

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Re: ntp strangeness

[Chris Howie]

Chris Howie wrote:
> Jacob S wrote:
> 
>>After I did an apt-get update/upgrade Monday I've had problem keeping
>>the time set properly on my computer. I have both ntpdate and
>>ntp-server installed, running a strictly Sid machine. 
> 
> 
> Welcome to the club.  #debian suggested booting with 'noacpi nolacpi' but that
> does nothing.  =(
> 

Yeah, and that's why it didn't work.  I meant to say "noapic nolapic", and
apparently I made the same typo in lilo.

Whoever picked those acronyms needs to be shot.

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Re: Configuring pcmcia cards at boot-up

[Antonio Rafael C. Paiva]

Udo,

I think the only thing extra to include is that you need to specify in 
the interface file that both interfaces need to activated when on. For 
that just add the interface name to the line beginning with auto.


Antonio

Udo Klein wrote:

Hi,

I'm trying to use an old Toshiba Satellite laptop as a gateway. To do 
this I use two ethernet pcmcia cards (both 3c589), one connected to the 
cable modem (external interface), one connected to a switch (internal 
interface).


What I want is (1) to have both cards permanently plugged in ("cold 
plugged") and (2) to have both interfaces configured during boot-up.


I worded out how to configure the file /etc/network/interfaces to allow 
for the two cards to be hotplugged, so I can FIRST boot up, THEN insert 
both cards into the slots, and they get automatically configured. I also 
worked out how to configure the same file to allow for the external 
interface card to be plugged in before boot-up, and to be configured 
during boot-up, but this only works if the second card is not yet 
plugged in! As soon as both cards are plugged in at boot up, the 
external interface card doesn't get configured properly, resulting in no 
connectivity.


Can somebody please tell me which files need to be configured and how?


The ethernet howto has a section discussing the configuration of two 
ethernet interfaces, but I remember having read somewhere that this only 
applies to PCI cards, not PCMCIA cards.


Specifications: Debian Sarge, kernel 2.4.27-2-386, on a Toshiba 
Satellite Pro 430CDS. The ethernet cards are both 3c589.


Thanks, Udo K.




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Re: instructions for switching to kernel 2.6 on Debian Sarge?

[Andrei Popescu]

On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 16:59:23 -0500
"Daniel B." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Digby Tarvin wrote:
> > I didn't think there was much more to it than just doing a
> > apt-get intall kernel-image-2.6.8
> 
> Actually, there is (or sure seems to be).
> 
> As I mentioned, the documentation that I found did warn me that my
> mouse device (/dev/psaux) would change (and therefore gpm and X might
> break), but the device the documentation said the mouse would change
> to (/dev/input/mouse...) doesn't exist, and the documentation didn't
> say anything about what one needs to do to get it to exist (install
> packages?  run a new equivalent of MAKEDEV?  mount /sys or similar?).

udev will take care of that. Just install the kernel (and don't uninstall the 
2.4). If something doesn't work, you can still boot with 2.4 and research. If X 
won't start, the first thing to try is 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86' 
(assuming you have XFree86). 

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Re: instructions for switching to kernel 2.6 on Debian Sarge?

[Daniel B.]

Digby Tarvin wrote:

I didn't think there was much more to it than just doing a
apt-get intall kernel-image-2.6.8


Actually, there is (or sure seems to be).

As I mentioned, the documentation that I found did warn me that my
mouse device (/dev/psaux) would change (and therefore gpm and X might
break), but the device the documentation said the mouse would change
to (/dev/input/mouse...) doesn't exist, and the documentation didn't
say anything about what one needs to do to get it to exist (install
packages?  run a new equivalent of MAKEDEV?  mount /sys or similar?).


Daniel


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Re: Backport Questions

[Andrei Popescu]

On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 13:27:15 -0800
Marc Shapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

[major snip]

> ALSO, apt-cache show says that it is for desktop integration. 
> Is that for Gnome and KDE? I am using fvwm2 and do not use an integrated 
> desktop environment. Do I even need that package?

AFAIK Debian has a menu system that does not depend on the Environment/Window 
Manager. I'm using IceWM and I still get the new menu entries when I install 
something (after I restart IceWM).

Andrei
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Re: ntp strangeness

[Chris Howie]

Ken Wahl wrote:
> I've heard of it but not tried it. I did try the openntp package before
> NTP but tossed it for reasons I can't remember. I'm holding out to see
> if a fix for bug  #342887 corrects things or not. The original bugreport
> sounds exactly like the same symptoms I've been having.

Try booting the kernel with the "noapic nolapic" parameters.

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Re[solved]: debian-user and mutt...

[Digby Tarvin]

Thanks Ken,

Looks like another neat feature I hadn't stumbled across before..

I also found (by trial and error - havn't found it stated in the
docs yet) that by using 'lists' instead of 'subscribe' I can
get the L command to work without changing the listing format,
which is what I initially wanted..

My mutt seems to accept either version of the commands you 
suggested, which for the 'lists' version gives me: 

1156  s  02/09 [ 0] Ken Wahl(1.7K) Re: debian-user and mutt...

and for 'subscrube' gives:

1156  sL 02/09 [ 0] Ken Wahl(1.7K) Re: debian-user and mutt...

The latter seems to do everything I want...

So the bottom line seems to be that the Debian way of organizing
a list is superior, so long as you have a suitable MUA and are
sufficiently familiar with its features - or know someone else
who is ;)..

Regards,
DigbyT

On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 02:38:18PM -0500, Ken Wahl wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 07:02:34PM +, Digby Tarvin wrote:
> > My remaining grip is that the 'subscribe' command also causes the
> > identification of the originator of the message to be replaced by
> > the list name in the display:
> >1183   L Feb 09 To debian-user@ (  46) debian-user and mutt...
> >1184 r L Feb 09 To debian-user@ (  38) Re: debian-user and mutt...
> >1188  sL Feb 09 To debian-user@ (  67) Re: debian-user and mutt...
> >1190  sL Feb 09 To debian-user@ (  47) Re: debian-user and mutt...
> >1193 O L Feb 09 To debian-user@ (  70) Re: debian-user and mutt...
> 
> 
> Try adding this to your muttrc:
> set hdr_format="%4C %Z %{%m/%d} [%2N] %-15.15F (%4c) %s"
> 
> If that is rejected then use:
> set index_format="%4C %Z %{%m/%d} [%2N] %-15.15F (%4c) %s"
> 
> I actually think your version uses index_format but I have hdr_format in
> my muttrc.
> 
> This is configurable and you can see how to customize it at:
> http://www.mutt.org/doc/manual/manual-6.html#ss6.3
> (scroll down to index format)
> 
> You can also use folder-hooks to make it different depending on what folder
> you are browsing. One of the many beauties of mutt.
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Re: netinst question

[Andrei Popescu]

On Thu, 9 Feb 2006 16:06:43 -0500
dafydd hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi folks
> 
> I'm new here, so please point me in the right direction if this  
> question's answered elsewhere.
> 
> This is my first attempt at installing debian via internet - I've  
> been using the Agnula distribution, but for various reasons I'm  
> trying the netinst install.  Trouble is, my laptop (hp omnibook xe2,  
> p2 333, 3com cardbus network card) isn't automatically bringing up  
> eth0 after the base install, so the fist steps of apt configuration  
> fail because it can't find the mirror.
> 
> Is there a way to interrupt the install program at this point and  
> manually bring up the interface with ifup?  I tried ctl-alt-F6 and  
> logged in as root.  ifup eth0 works, but I can't figure out how to  
> return to the install program after that.
> 
> Again, I apologize if this is covered elsewhere - I couldn't find  
> anything in the archives.
> 
> cheers
> dafydd
> 
> 
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Did you try Alt-F1, Alt-F2, ..., Alt-F5 (in console mode you don't need Ctrl)?

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Re: gpg key error in unstable

[Andreas Janssen]

Hello

L.V.Gandhi (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:

> On 2/9/06, Andreas Janssen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> The first time you tried to export the key from gpg to apt, but you
>> didn't have the key in your gpg keyring. The second time, you
>> imported the key to gpg, but didn't feed it to apt.
> 
> Thanks Andreas. Clear explanation.
> How to get keys for various sites?

You can get official debian keys from the debian-archive-keyring
package. Never just download keys from some gpg server just because
someone tells you some key id, only get the keys from the project
servers directly, or at least get the key id from there to make sure it
is the correct key.

best regards
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Re: ntp strangeness

[John Verhoeven]

On Friday 10 February 2006 01:57, Chris Howie wrote:
> Jacob S wrote:
> > After I did an apt-get update/upgrade Monday I've had problem keeping
> > the time set properly on my computer. I have both ntpdate and
> > ntp-server installed, running a strictly Sid machine.
>
> Welcome to the club.  #debian suggested booting with 'noacpi nolacpi' but
> that does nothing.  =(

What about acpi=off?

Fixed my problem - AMD64 X2, Giagbyte GA-K8NS.

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Pictures, music = video

[Luis Fernando Llana Díaz]

Hello,
  I want to combine some photgraphs with music to obtain a movie that I can 
record in a video CD or a DVD (I plan to play it in a ordinary DVD player). I 
am wondering is there is a software to do it easely.

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Configuring pcmcia cards at boot-up

[Udo Klein]

Hi,

I'm trying to use an old Toshiba Satellite laptop as a gateway. To do 
this I use two ethernet pcmcia cards (both 3c589), one connected to the 
cable modem (external interface), one connected to a switch (internal 
interface).


What I want is (1) to have both cards permanently plugged in ("cold 
plugged") and (2) to have both interfaces configured during boot-up.


I worded out how to configure the file /etc/network/interfaces to allow 
for the two cards to be hotplugged, so I can FIRST boot up, THEN insert 
both cards into the slots, and they get automatically configured. I also 
worked out how to configure the same file to allow for the external 
interface card to be plugged in before boot-up, and to be configured 
during boot-up, but this only works if the second card is not yet 
plugged in! As soon as both cards are plugged in at boot up, the 
external interface card doesn't get configured properly, resulting in no 
connectivity.


Can somebody please tell me which files need to be configured and how?


The ethernet howto has a section discussing the configuration of two 
ethernet interfaces, but I remember having read somewhere that this only 
applies to PCI cards, not PCMCIA cards.


Specifications: Debian Sarge, kernel 2.4.27-2-386, on a Toshiba 
Satellite Pro 430CDS. The ethernet cards are both 3c589.


Thanks, Udo K.


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Re: Backport Questions

[Marc Shapiro]

Steve Block wrote:


On Wed, Feb 08, 2006 at 09:01:23PM -0800, Marc Shapiro wrote:

Nothing replaces, or conflicts with openoffice.org-debian-files (that 
I can see),



^^^
s/b openoffice.org-debian-menus

yet it is being removed. I'm not surprised that it is not mentioned 
(in apt-cache show) for any of the packages to be installed, since it 
was from the package that I dl'd directly from www.openoffice.org 
that I used to install v 2.0 previously. IOW it is not from a Debian 
package, at all.


So, as near as I can tell, doing this dist-upgrade whould leave me 
without a mysql server, will remove my help for oo.o 1.1 while not 
providing any for oo.o 2.0 and will break the version 2.0 of oo.o 
that I currently have installed.


Is this correct, or am I missing something here?



The idea of the backports is not that you use them as a regular 
package repository for keeping your system up to date, but that you 
bring in certain packages that you know you want that aren't in 
stable. Say you are working on a web server and the new content system 
needs php5. You can use the backports packages to migrate (carefully) 
to php5. I would not recommend using it as a generic upgrade system.


The mysql issues you saw were because backports provides mysql-common 
in the 5.0 range, which replaces the 4.1. This requires removing all 
the 4.1 mysql packages since they depend on that, but won't cause the 
5.0 mysql packages to automatically be installed.


My recommendation is to keep backports in your sources.list file, but 
add the following to /etc/apt/preferences:


Package: *
Pin: release a=sarge-backports
Pin-Priority: 200

This will keep all the packages in the backports repository at a lower 
priority (200) than the main sarge repositories (500). After that you 
can carefully install whichever backported packages you want to use. 
Sometimes that may involve manually tracking down issues. For example 
to upgrade mysql to 5.0 you now need to override the package priority 
on mysql-common to install the 5.0 version or the other mysql 5 
packages will be broken. Using aptitude in curses mode makes this 
pretty easy.



I had not, actually, intended to do a complete upgrade. I did that only 
to see what was out there so I could determine what, if anything, to use 
from backports. The main thing that I was looking for was 
openoffice.org-2.0, since I currently have that installed (seperate from 
my 1.1.3 install) from the files obtained directly from 
www.openoffice.org. Someone else has posted that the missing help 
package can be safely obtained from Sid with no dependancy problems. 
That should work. My only remaining issue with oo.o, then, is that I 
would like to keep the 2.0 version that I have installed untill I am 
sure that the new one works, but openoffice.org-debian-menus, which came 
directly from www.openoffice.org along with the rest of the 2.0 files is 
going to be removed. Why? The debian package shouldn't know anything 
about it, so I would think that it would be left alone (along with all 
the rest of the 2.0 files from www.openoffice.org). WAIT A MINUTE -- 
apt-cache search says that it IS a debian package. Did openoffice.org 
just grab it from the debian archives and provide it along with their 
package? ALSO, apt-cache show says that it is for desktop integration. 
Is that for Gnome and KDE? I am using fvwm2 and do not use an integrated 
desktop environment. Do I even need that package?


MySQL 5.0 is also of interest. Why is it that the packages that I am 
interested in appear to be the only ones that would obviously break if I 
install them? I did not really undestand what should be done to correct 
that problem. I use apt-get, not aptitude and have never dealt with 
pinning, or priorities, before. I will probably just wait until Etch 
goes stable and I will get 5.0 then, unless something comes up to really 
require that I upgrade sooner.


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Re: gpg key error in unstable

[L.V.Gandhi]

On 2/9/06, Andreas Janssen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> You can get official debian keys from the debian-archive-keyring
> package. Never just download keys from some gpg server just because
> someone tells you some key id, only get the keys from the project
> servers directly, or at least get the key id from there to make sure it
> is the correct key.
I have both sid and sarge on my dell 600m. In sid I could get
debian-archive-keyring. But in sarge that is not there. I installed
apt from bacports in sarge. How to get debian-archive-keyring for
sarge?
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Re: ntp strangeness

[Jacob S]

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Ken Wahl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I've had the same problem for about 6 weeks. I'm not sure but I think
> it is bug #342887. Doesn't NTP usually use the system clock as a
> fallback?
> 
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=342887
> 
> NTP has been pretty much useless and I've had to keep time by calling
> ntpdate hourly from cron.

Thanks for the link, it was very helpful. 

My /usr is in the / partition, so that wasn't the problem. I ended up
moving /etc/rcS.d/S18hwclockfirst.sh to /etc/rcS.d/S09hwclockfirst.sh
(right before S10checkroot.sh) as per the above bugreport. 4 hours
after rebooting, my time is still correct so it looks like it fixed it.
(No, I didn't reboot to check the clock... I was trying to boot a new
kernel with usb & scsi debugging enabled.) Now why running
S18hwclockfirst.sh, then S10checkroot.sh and finally S22hwclock.sh in
that order wouldn't fix it without a reboot is beyond me, but
fortunately somebody in the bugreport knew what they were talking about.

Thanks to everyone for the tips and suggestions.

Jacob
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Re: latex letterpaper & dvipdf

[Michael Marsh]

On 2/9/06, roberto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> i am struggling at writing a paper and i have to respect the options
> "letterpaper"
> which is default in IEEEtran.cls
> but when i open the pdf by acrobat it defaults to
> 8.26*11.69in
>
> instead of:
> 8.50*11in
>
> my header contains:
>
> \documentclass[letterpaper]{IEEEtran}
>
> so i do not know if it may be a problem in dvipdf conversion after
> that i generate the pdf from the dvi.
> do you know how to set the option "letter" in dvipdf?
> man page seems to be rather short...

dvipdf calls dvips behind the scenes, so if you pass it "-t letter",
you should end up with an 8.5"x11" PDF document.

If you want to change this globally, not just for this particular
case, you can create a file "~/.dvipsrc" with the line
t tetter

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Re: instructions for switching to kernel 2.6 on Debian Sarge?

[Digby Tarvin]

I didn't think there was much more to it than just doing a
apt-get intall kernel-image-2.6.8

When I did my net-install I arbitrarily chose a 2.6 kernel
from which to install, and found that I had both a 2.4 and
a 2.6 kernel installed at the end of it.

I can switch between the two kernels with no more than a
reboot. So I think the most you would need to do is to
perhaps go through and make sure all of your drivers
still work (my PCMCIA for 2.4 wasn't originally installed)

Regards,
DigbyT

On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 02:47:00PM -0500, Daniel B. wrote:
> Where are instructions on how to upgrade to kernel 2.6 (ideally,
> specifically in Debian's Sarge release)?
> 
> The instructions I've found so far are quite sketchy.  (For example,
> although I have found instructions that tell me that my mouse is no
> longer at /dev/psaux but is now at /dev/input/mouse (or .../mouse0
> or .../mice), they don't say what all I need to do to get /dev/input
> or /dev/input/mouse to appear in the first place.)
> 
> Are there any Debian-specific instructions out there (e.g., specifying
> which packages (beside udev and its prerequisites) I need to install
> and what other changes I might need to make (e.g., mounting new special
> file systems (/sys? /dev?), dropping or changing old special filesystems
> or real directoryes (/dev?), etc))?
> 
> If not, are they any non-Debian-specific instructions that explain
> what all is needed?
> 
> (This is for a fairly basic desktop system--non-USB keyboard and
> mouse, USB only for camera and other lower-priority devices.)
> 
> Thanks,
> Daniel
> 
> 
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netinst question

[dafydd hughes]

Hi folks

I'm new here, so please point me in the right direction if this  
question's answered elsewhere.


This is my first attempt at installing debian via internet - I've  
been using the Agnula distribution, but for various reasons I'm  
trying the netinst install.  Trouble is, my laptop (hp omnibook xe2,  
p2 333, 3com cardbus network card) isn't automatically bringing up  
eth0 after the base install, so the fist steps of apt configuration  
fail because it can't find the mirror.


Is there a way to interrupt the install program at this point and  
manually bring up the interface with ifup?  I tried ctl-alt-F6 and  
logged in as root.  ifup eth0 works, but I can't figure out how to  
return to the install program after that.


Again, I apologize if this is covered elsewhere - I couldn't find  
anything in the archives.


cheers
dafydd



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latex letterpaper & dvipdf

[roberto]

hello

i am struggling at writing a paper and i have to respect the options
"letterpaper"
which is default in IEEEtran.cls
but when i open the pdf by acrobat it defaults to
8.26*11.69in

instead of:
8.50*11in

my header contains:

\documentclass[letterpaper]{IEEEtran}

so i do not know if it may be a problem in dvipdf conversion after
that i generate the pdf from the dvi.
do you know how to set the option "letter" in dvipdf?
man page seems to be rather short...

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Re: http://ftp.debian-unofficial.org/debian/dists/sarge/Release.gpg problem.

[Joey Hess]

Edward Shornock wrote:
> As demonstrated in my earlier follow-up, this is a three step process.
> 1) Import the missing key with gpg --recv-keys [keyid]
> 2) Add the key to apt-key with "gpg --export [keyid]|apt-key add -"
> 3) run "apt-get update"

Step one is inneceesary, just download the key and apt-key add it.

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Re: debian-user and mutt...

[Ken Wahl]

On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 07:02:34PM +, Digby Tarvin wrote:
> My remaining grip is that the 'subscribe' command also causes the
> identification of the originator of the message to be replaced by
> the list name in the display:
>1183   L Feb 09 To debian-user@ (  46) debian-user and mutt...
>1184 r L Feb 09 To debian-user@ (  38) Re: debian-user and mutt...
>1188  sL Feb 09 To debian-user@ (  67) Re: debian-user and mutt...
>1190  sL Feb 09 To debian-user@ (  47) Re: debian-user and mutt...
>1193 O L Feb 09 To debian-user@ (  70) Re: debian-user and mutt...


Try adding this to your muttrc:
set hdr_format="%4C %Z %{%m/%d} [%2N] %-15.15F (%4c) %s"

If that is rejected then use:
set index_format="%4C %Z %{%m/%d} [%2N] %-15.15F (%4c) %s"

I actually think your version uses index_format but I have hdr_format in
my muttrc.

This is configurable and you can see how to customize it at:
http://www.mutt.org/doc/manual/manual-6.html#ss6.3
(scroll down to index format)

You can also use folder-hooks to make it different depending on what folder
you are browsing. One of the many beauties of mutt.
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Re: Which video card is supported for a DEC Alpha?

[Frank Gevaerts]

On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 12:31:48PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I have installed Debian Linux v. 3.1 (sarge) for an Alpha computer system.  I 
> am using a DEC Alpha motherboard 164-LX running at 533 MHZ.  I have tried 
> using a Matrox Millennium II video card in both MGA and VGA modes and have 
> been getting an xfree86 server crash saying that the "screen is not found".  
> I have also tried an older Trident video card running it in VGA mode with the 
> same error.

I would think the mga should work. Maybe it needs a BusID line in the X
config. Try asking [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Frank

> 
> I would like to know which video card is supported for a DEC Alpha by Debian 
> Linux without having to modify the kernel?  I am sure that someone is out 
> there who is actually running a system like mine with a working video card?  
> I would like to know the make and model of the card that you are using and 
> the extent to which it works.
> 
> I am looking ahead for a reply that can be helpful to me in getting this 
> system running in x-windows mode with bothe the KDE and Gnome desktops.
> 
> 
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Re: debian-user and mutt...

[Edward Shornock]

On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 01:07:54PM -0500, Erik Karlin wrote:
> To sort of interrupt this thread as it seems to be somewhat resolved,
> does anyone know why DU is the only mailing list that mutt can correctly
> identify signed messages? How and where is that configured, and how can
> I check/debug that one.

In my .muttrc, I have the following and it works for every mailing list:


set pgp_decode_command="gpg %?p?--passphrase-fd 0? --no-verbose \
--batch --output - %f"
set pgp_verify_command="gpg --no-verbose --batch --output - \
--verify %s %f"
set pgp_decrypt_command="gpg --passphrase-fd 0 --no-verbose \
--batch --output - %f"
set pgp_sign_command="gpg --no-verbose --batch --output - \
--passphrase-fd 0 --armor --detach-sign \
--textmode %?a?-u %a? %f"
set pgp_clearsign_command="gpg --no-verbose --batch --output - \
--passphrase-fd 0 --armor --textmode --clearsign %?a?-u %a? %f"
set pgp_encrypt_only_command="/usr/lib/mutt/pgpewrap gpg --batch \
--quiet --no-verbose --output - --encrypt --textmode --armor \
--always-trust --encrypt-to 0x[mykeyid] -- -r %r -- %f"
set pgp_encrypt_sign_command="/usr/lib/mutt/pgpewrap gpg \
--passphrase-fd 0 --batch --quiet --no-verbose --textmode \
--output - --encrypt --sign %?a?-u %a? --armor --always-trust \
--encrypt-to 0x[mykeyid] -- -r %r -- %f"
set pgp_import_command="gpg --no-verbose --import -v %f"
set pgp_export_command="gpg --no-verbose --export --armor %r"
set pgp_verify_key_command="gpg --no-verbose --batch \
--fingerprint --check-sigs %r"
set pgp_list_pubring_command="gpg --no-verbose --batch \
--with-colons --list-keys %r"
set pgp_list_secring_command="gpg --no-verbose --batch \
--with-colons --list-secret-keys %r"
set pgp_autosign=yes
set pgp_sign_as=0x[mykeyid]
set pgp_replyencrypt=yes
set pgp_timeout=1800
set pgp_good_sign="^gpg: Good signature from"


HTH


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Re: debian-user and mutt...

[Digby Tarvin]

Thanks Ken, hendrik and all the others that offered
suggestions.

I couldn't add the 'set honor_follow_up_to=yes' because it doesn't
seem to be recognised in my version of mutt, but the rest were
ok.

If this posting went to the right place, then it worked..

In addition to activating the 'L' command, it also seems to
add an 'L' flag to the message listings, which is nice.

My remaining grip is that the 'subscribe' command also causes the
identification of the originator of the message to be replaced by
the list name in the display:
   1183   L Feb 09 To debian-user@ (  46) debian-user and mutt...
   1184 r L Feb 09 To debian-user@ (  38) Re: debian-user and mutt...
   1188  sL Feb 09 To debian-user@ (  67) Re: debian-user and mutt...
   1190  sL Feb 09 To debian-user@ (  47) Re: debian-user and mutt...
   1193 O L Feb 09 To debian-user@ (  70) Re: debian-user and mutt...

which I would rather was controlled separately because I think it was
useful to be able to see the authors when deciding which messages to
read...

But I am still reading through your link so maybe there is a solution
in there somewhere...

Thanks again,
DigbyT

On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 12:09:25PM -0500, Ken Wahl wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 03:27:22PM +, Digby Tarvin wrote:
> > It seems you are right, in as much as there is an L command that appears
> > to be intended to deal with lists, but on your message it just gives me
> > 
> > No mailing lists found!
> 
> 
> The section of the mutt manual dealing with mailing lists is here:
> 
> http://www.mutt.org/doc/manual/manual-3.html#lists
> 
> The relevant parts of my muttrc for dealing with mailing lists:
> 
> set followup_to
> set honor_follow_up_to=yes
> set ignore_list_reply_to=no
> set reply_to
> set reply_regexp="^(re:[ \t]*)+"
> alias debian-user Debian User List 
> alias debian-kde Debian KDE List 
> subscribe debian-user debian-kde
> 
> The above allows me to use "L" to reply to the list.
> 
> HTH
> -- 
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Re: http://ftp.debian-unofficial.org/debian/dists/sarge/Release.gpg problem.

[Edward Shornock]

On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 06:55:03PM +, L.V.Gandhi wrote:
[..]
> W: GPG error: http://ftp.debian-unofficial.org sarge Release: The
> following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is
> not available: NO_PUBKEY F82E5CC04B2B2B9E
> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
> Any solutions?
> How to get these keys?

As demonstrated in my earlier follow-up, this is a three step process.
1) Import the missing key with gpg --recv-keys [keyid]
2) Add the key to apt-key with "gpg --export [keyid]|apt-key add -"
3) run "apt-get update"


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Re: http://ftp.debian-unofficial.org/debian/dists/sarge/Release.gpg problem.

[Edward Shornock]

On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 06:55:03PM +, L.V.Gandhi wrote:
> Thanks Edward. Your solution worked for nerim and backports. For this
> I tried and got
> lvgdell600m:~# gpg --recv-keys 2D230C5F
> gpg: requesting key 2D230C5F from hkp server subkeys.pgp.net
> gpg: key 2D230C5F: "Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (2006)
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" 2 new signatures
> gpg: no ultimately trusted keys found
> gpg: Total number processed: 1
> gpg: new signatures: 2
> lvgdell600m:~# gpg --export 2D230C5F |apt-key add -
> gpg: no ultimately trusted keys found
> OK
> lvgdell600m:~# apt-get update
> ..
> W: GPG error: http://ftp.debian-unofficial.org sarge Release: The
> following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is
> not available: NO_PUBKEY F82E5CC04B2B2B9E
> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
> Any solutions?
> How to get these keys?


This worked for me (I just added that repository to
/etc/apt/sources.list):

Reading package lists... Done
W: GPG error: ftp://ftp.debian-unofficial.org sarge Release: The following 
signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: 
NO_PUBKEY F82E5CC04B2B2B9E
W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
darkside:~# gpg --recv-keys F82E5CC04B2B2B9E
gpg: requesting key 4B2B2B9E from hkp server random.sks.keyserver.penguin.de
gpg: key 4B2B2B9E: public key "Daniel Baumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" imported
gpg: 3 marginal(s) needed, 1 complete(s) needed, classic trust model
gpg: depth: 0  valid:   1  signed:   1  trust: 0-, 0q, 0n, 0m, 0f, 1u
gpg: depth: 1  valid:   1  signed:   0  trust: 1-, 0q, 0n, 0m, 0f, 0u
gpg: next trustdb check due at 2006-03-22
gpg: Total number processed: 1
gpg:   imported: 1
darkside:~# gpg --export 4B2B2B9E |apt-key add -
gpg: no ultimately trusted keys found
OK
darkside:~# apt-get update
[snip]
Hit ftp://ftp.nerim.net sid Release.gpg
Hit ftp://ftp.nerim.net sid Release
Get: 6 ftp://ftp.debian-unofficial.org sarge Release.gpg [189B]
Hit ftp://ftp.nerim.net sid/main Packages
Hit ftp://ftp.nerim.net sid/main Sources
Hit ftp://ftp.debian-unofficial.org sarge Release
Hit ftp://ftp.debian-unofficial.org sarge/main Packages
Fetched 194B in 2s (78B/s)
Reading package lists... Done
darkside:~#




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Re: Pb with etch netinstall - laptop/pcmcia/firewire - 3Com 3574

[cga]

cga wrote:

I tried a net install with the current etch iso image and the 
installer seems to have trouble recognizing my 3com PC card (LAN + 
56K). It asks me whether I would like to do the install through the 
firewire interface, which sounds like a "last resort" attempt and is 
probably not relevant. The laptop does not even have a firewire port 
so I reply "no" and the installer proceeds to ask me if I would like 
to do the configuration manually and presents me with a list of 
modules. I select the correct 3574c module but the installer takes me 
back to the screen that informs me that it cannot not find the nic.. 
would I like to select the module manually.. etc. Only way I can get 
out of this is by hitting Escape. The installer then takes me to the 
next step (partitioning the hard drive) .. which is where I abort the 
installation.


I searched google & found a couple of laptop users who had experienced 
the same problem over the last year or so, but no resolution.


I use the default install - ie. I just hit enter at the boot prompt. 
Wondering if there's anything I need  to specify when I start the 
install to indicate that I need to enable pcmcia..?  
Incidentally I did a sarge "net install" prior to this and did not run 
into any problem.


 


Quick update and additional questions:

1. tried with the etch full-cd #1 with identical results.

2. tried the sarge netinstall and I get a message to the effect that PC 
card services start successfully. I never get to see the "no nic found" 
error message and the install proceeds automatically to the disk 
partitioning screen. At this point I went back to the main menu and I 
started an ash shell where I was able to verify that I can access the 
network - I did a wget of the debian.org home page. Everything works as 
expected both with the default install and the "linux26" install.


3. went back to the etch netinstall and after some fiddling with the 
different options relative to the network - amounted to manually loading 
the 3c574 module as requested.. backing out of the "firewire loop" and 
manually selecting the "configure network" option on the  main menu.. I 
was also able to wget the debian.org page.


So it appears that there is a minor problem (non-problem?) with the etch 
installer where PC cards are concerned. I have to assume that the 
install would be successful after this since I did not go any further so 
I have no evidence that the install would proceed normally. I do have my 
doubts concerning pcmcia and network setup, though..


So, not being familiar with debian I'm not sure if I should report this 
as a bug or check whether this has already been reported - quite likely 
since this is by no means exotic hardware.. chances are someone has run 
into this problem before me and reported it.


In any case as far as my particular hardware is concerned there appears 
to have been some regression in hardware recognition between etch and sarge.




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Re: http://ftp.debian-unofficial.org/debian/dists/sarge/Release.gpg problem.

[L.V.Gandhi]

On 2/9/06, Edward Shornock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 04:01:38PM +, L.V.Gandhi wrote:
> > I am using sarge with apt from backports. It needs gpg keys. For
> > http://ftp.debian-unofficial.org/debian/dists/sarge/ I did
> > lvgdell600m:~# GET
> > http://ftp.debian-unofficial.org/debian/dists/sarge/Release.gpg | gpg
> > --import
> > gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found.
> > gpg: Total number processed: 0
> > I d/l Release.gpg and then did
>
> > lvgdell600m:~# cat /home/lvgandhi/Release.gpg  | gpg --import
> > gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found.
> > gpg: Total number processed: 0
>
> try:
>
> gpg --recv-keys 2D230C5F
> gpg --export 2D230C5F |apt-key add -
>
> if you want this key:
> pub   1024D/2D230C5F 2006-01-03 [expires: 2007-02-07]
> uid  Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (2006)
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Thanks Edward. Your solution worked for nerim and backports. For this
I tried and got
lvgdell600m:~# gpg --recv-keys 2D230C5F
gpg: requesting key 2D230C5F from hkp server subkeys.pgp.net
gpg: key 2D230C5F: "Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (2006)
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" 2 new signatures
gpg: no ultimately trusted keys found
gpg: Total number processed: 1
gpg: new signatures: 2
lvgdell600m:~# gpg --export 2D230C5F |apt-key add -
gpg: no ultimately trusted keys found
OK
lvgdell600m:~# apt-get update
..
W: GPG error: http://ftp.debian-unofficial.org sarge Release: The
following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is
not available: NO_PUBKEY F82E5CC04B2B2B9E
W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
Any solutions?
How to get these keys?

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Re: gpg key error in unstable

[L.V.Gandhi]

On 2/9/06, Andreas Janssen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> The first time you tried to export the key from gpg to apt, but you
> didn't have the key in your gpg keyring. The second time, you imported
> the key to gpg, but didn't feed it to apt.

Thanks Andreas. Clear explanation.
How to get keys for various sites?
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Re: debugger command history

[Joey Hess]

linux china wrote:
> I use 'perl -d ' to debug my code, and use up and down arrow to view the
> debugger command that I have inputed, but in my Debian 3.1 system, the up 
> arrow
> doesn't function. I don't know why, anyone could help?

Try installing libterm-readline-gnu-perl or libterm-readline-perl-perl.

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Re: gpg key error in unstable

[Andreas Janssen]

Hello

L.V.Gandhi (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:

> I have sarge system. I use other repositories like
> http://ftp.nerim.net, http://ftp.debian-unofficial.org,
> http://www.backports.org. I upgraded apt to 0.6.43. it needs gpg keys
> for all. I went to nerim and saw merillat key. I did
> lvgdell600m:~# gpg --armor --export 1F41B907 | apt-key add -
> gpg: directory `/root/.gnupg' created
> [...]
> gpg: WARNING: nothing exported

> gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found.
^^^
> even then I got warning during apt-get update. then I tried
> lvgdell600m:~# gpg --keyserver hkp://wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net --recv-keys
> 1F41B907 gpg: requesting key 1F41B907 from hkp server
> wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net gpg: /root/.gnupg/trustdb.gpg: trustdb created
> gpg: key 1F41B907: public key "Christian Marillat
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" imported
> gpg: no ultimately trusted keys found
> gpg: Total number processed: 1
> gpg:   imported: 1
> even now I got warning during apt-get update
> what to do?

The first time you tried to export the key from gpg to apt, but you
didn't have the key in your gpg keyring. The second time, you imported
the key to gpg, but didn't feed it to apt.

best regards
Andreas Janssen

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Re: your mail

[Steve Block]

On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 12:29:23PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Which video card is supported for a DEC Alpha?
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I have installed Debian Linux v. 3.1 (sarge) for an Alpha computer system.  I am using a 
DEC Alpha motherboard 164-LX running at 533 MHZ.  I have tried using a Matrox Millennium 
II video card in both MGA and VGA modes and have been getting an xfree86 server crash 
saying that the "screen is not found".  I have also tried an older Trident 
video card running it in VGA mode with the same error.

I would like to know which video card is supported for a DEC Alpha by Debian 
Linux without having to modify the kernel?  I am sure that someone is out there 
who is actually running a system like mine with a working video card?  I would 
like to know the make and model of the card that you are using and the extent 
to which it works.

I am looking ahead for a reply that can be helpful to me in getting this system 
running in x-windows mode with bothe the KDE and Gnome desktops.


I can't answer your question but I can suggest that you use an 
appropriate subject in your emails so that those who just skim the list 
can see what you're asking about.


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Re: debian-user and mutt...

[Erik Karlin]

On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 05:01:35PM +, Digby Tarvin wrote:
> Hi - thanks for the link.
> 
> A quick survey and it does indeed seem that 'Reply-To munging' is
> what is used on nearly all of the other lists I am subscribed to.
> 
> The arguments made against it in that link certainly make sense,
> although the author's prefered solution seems to be the
> 'reply to all' option which sends to the list and the originator,
> and hence seems to cause so many complaints here.
> 
> A 'reply-to-list' command does seem like a good solution, although
> I don't know how universally applicable it is. 
> 
> Not all of the mailing lists seem to be adding a 'X-Mailing-List'
> header into the message. Or does 'reply-to-list' use something
> else?
> 
> On the 'Libretto' list, for example, the only place in the headers
> other than the munged 'Reply-To' field in which the list address appears
> is in the 'To' field - so I suppose it would have to be using that
> field???
> 
> Regards,
> DigbyT
> 
> On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 10:56:37AM -0500, cga wrote:
> > Just subscribed and may have missed some messages.. so I hope this is 
> > not redundant.
> > 
> > Check this out for an argumentation against:
> > 
> > http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html

To sort of interrupt this thread as it seems to be somewhat resolved,
does anyone know why DU is the only mailing list that mutt can correctly
identify signed messages? How and where is that configured, and how can
I check/debug that one.

Thanks


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Re: gpg key error in unstable

[Edward Shornock]

On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 03:30:40PM +, L.V.Gandhi wrote:
> even then I got warning during apt-get update. then I tried
> lvgdell600m:~# gpg --keyserver hkp://wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net --recv-keys 1F41B907
> gpg: requesting key 1F41B907 from hkp server wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net
> gpg: /root/.gnupg/trustdb.gpg: trustdb created
> gpg: key 1F41B907: public key "Christian Marillat
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" imported
> gpg: no ultimately trusted keys found
> gpg: Total number processed: 1
> gpg:   imported: 1
> even now I got warning during apt-get update


Now that you have that key in your keyring, do the following:

gpg --export 1F41B907 |apt-key add -
apt-get update


The errors should stop.


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Which video card is supported for a DEC Alpha?

[hcohen14]

I have installed Debian Linux v. 3.1 (sarge) for an Alpha computer system.  I 
am using a DEC Alpha motherboard 164-LX running at 533 MHZ.  I have tried using 
a Matrox Millennium II video card in both MGA and VGA modes and have been 
getting an xfree86 server crash saying that the "screen is not found".  I have 
also tried an older Trident video card running it in VGA mode with the same 
error.

I would like to know which video card is supported for a DEC Alpha by Debian 
Linux without having to modify the kernel?  I am sure that someone is out there 
who is actually running a system like mine with a working video card?  I would 
like to know the make and model of the card that you are using and the extent 
to which it works.

I am looking ahead for a reply that can be helpful to me in getting this system 
running in x-windows mode with bothe the KDE and Gnome desktops.



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Re: ntp strangeness

[Chris Howie]

Jacob S wrote:
> After I did an apt-get update/upgrade Monday I've had problem keeping
> the time set properly on my computer. I have both ntpdate and
> ntp-server installed, running a strictly Sid machine. 

Welcome to the club.  #debian suggested booting with 'noacpi nolacpi' but that
does nothing.  =(

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[no subject]

[hcohen14]

Which video card is supported for a DEC Alpha?
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Priority: normal
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I have installed Debian Linux v. 3.1 (sarge) for an Alpha computer system.  I 
am using a DEC Alpha motherboard 164-LX running at 533 MHZ.  I have tried using 
a Matrox Millennium II video card in both MGA and VGA modes and have been 
getting an xfree86 server crash saying that the "screen is not found".  I have 
also tried an older Trident video card running it in VGA mode with the same 
error.

I would like to know which video card is supported for a DEC Alpha by Debian 
Linux without having to modify the kernel?  I am sure that someone is out there 
who is actually running a system like mine with a working video card?  I would 
like to know the make and model of the card that you are using and the extent 
to which it works.

I am looking ahead for a reply that can be helpful to me in getting this system 
running in x-windows mode with bothe the KDE and Gnome desktops.





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Re: LVM question SOLVED

[Gabe Granger]

I managed to work out what was wrong! instead of using /dev/mapper/onboard--sata-static I should have used /dev/onboard-sata/static as soon as i made this simple change everything worked :) sorry for being such a newbieOn 9 Feb 2006, at 16:47, Gabe Granger wrote:Thanks for pointing me in the right direction, i did the followingresize_reiserfs -s-14G /dev/mapper/onboard--sata-static Which finished saying "resize_reiserfs: Resizing finished successfully."But when I then tried to resize the LV using lvreduce -L -14G /dev/mapper/onboard--sata-staticI get the following errorVolume group mapper doesn't existWhat have I done wrong?On 9 Feb 2006, at 16:08, M. Maas wrote:Hi Gabe,Gabe Granger wrote: I've just installed linux on a new machine and thought I'd give RAID +LVM a go :) I've now discovered that I've created them the wrong sizes. I now need to shrink one and extend the other.I want to shrink LV /dev/onboard-sata/static by 20GB then extend LV/dev/onboard-sata/home by 20Gb.  I'm using reiserfs and not sure how Ishould correctly resize these volumes.  what is right way to do this? For the reducing, go here:http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/reducelv.html(Go down a bit until you see the section for reiserfs)For the extending go here:http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/extendlv.html(Again, do down for Reiserfs)Later,Mark 

Re: rsync and chown

[Johannes Wiedersich]

Edward Speyer wrote:

Hi!

I'm stuck trying to find a nice way to allow rsync / rdiff-backup enough
permissions to keep ownership information intact at the backup-receiving
end.

I /could/ run as root on the backup-reciever, but it'd be nice if there
was a less sledge-hammer approach to the chown problem :)

What's the generally accepted method for network backups using
rsync-like tools?


I found this link useful:

http://www.arctic.org/~dean/rdiff-backup/unattended.html

It uses rdiff-backup. It works along the lines of
- fetch the backup as ordinary user "backup"
- allow ssh-access as user root, but limit the access to exactly one 
well defined command, ie. rdiff-backup with the appropriate options.


In my case the backup runs via a cron job as root, in order to keep the 
owners. This is the least 'dangerous' sledge-hammer approach I know. If 
you are more paranoid than I, you could run your backup from a chroot.


Johannes


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Re: debian-user and mutt...

[Digby Tarvin]

Hi - thanks for the link.

A quick survey and it does indeed seem that 'Reply-To munging' is
what is used on nearly all of the other lists I am subscribed to.

The arguments made against it in that link certainly make sense,
although the author's prefered solution seems to be the
'reply to all' option which sends to the list and the originator,
and hence seems to cause so many complaints here.

A 'reply-to-list' command does seem like a good solution, although
I don't know how universally applicable it is. 

Not all of the mailing lists seem to be adding a 'X-Mailing-List'
header into the message. Or does 'reply-to-list' use something
else?

On the 'Libretto' list, for example, the only place in the headers
other than the munged 'Reply-To' field in which the list address appears
is in the 'To' field - so I suppose it would have to be using that
field???

Regards,
DigbyT

On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 10:56:37AM -0500, cga wrote:
> Just subscribed and may have missed some messages.. so I hope this is 
> not redundant.
> 
> Check this out for an argumentation against:
> 
> http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html
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Re: ntp strangeness

[John Hasler]

hendrik writes:
> [Chrony} doesn't seem to talk through IP-masquerading.

It does for me (I'm the Chrony maintainer).  What is your configuration?
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Re: debian-user and mutt...

[Ken Wahl]

On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 03:27:22PM +, Digby Tarvin wrote:
> It seems you are right, in as much as there is an L command that appears
> to be intended to deal with lists, but on your message it just gives me
> 
>   No mailing lists found!


The section of the mutt manual dealing with mailing lists is here:

http://www.mutt.org/doc/manual/manual-3.html#lists

The relevant parts of my muttrc for dealing with mailing lists:

set followup_to
set honor_follow_up_to=yes
set ignore_list_reply_to=no
set reply_to
set reply_regexp="^(re:[ \t]*)+"
alias debian-user Debian User List 
alias debian-kde Debian KDE List 
subscribe debian-user debian-kde


The above allows me to use "L" to reply to the list.

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Re: (Free)Radius + windows Wi-Fi client

[José Manuel Pérez]

El 09/02/2006, a las 17:35, Rafal Jankowski escribió:


Hello,

I use debian testing and I'd like to set Freeradius (or any other  
radius) for encrypted authentication for windows Wi-Fi clients, but  
when I set TLS, which is required by mschapv2, freeradius does not  
start, and there is in logfile:
Error: rlm_eap: Failed to link EAP-Type/tls: rlm_eap_tls.so: cannot  
open

shared object file: No such file or directory

Is it possible to adapt freeradius to ms windows EAP without  
recompilation? If so, I would be gratefull for config files.


Hello.

I've set up something similar, but I couldn't do it with debian  
package. That package does not include rlm_eap_tls.so, so it does not  
work. Finally I've downloaded source from freeradius web site and  
I've compiled it (version 1.0.5). Now it works ok.
It is not a config problem but a compilation problem, I mean, library  
rlm_eap_tls.so is needed for TLS but it's not included (I don't know  
why) in the package.
Compiling from source is easy. Now I have it working with EAP-TLS and  
PAP with users in LDAP and clients with OS/X, Windows XP, Windows  
Mobile 2005 and Linux.





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Re: debian-user and mutt...

[Digby Tarvin]

On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 11:22:50AM -0500, Edward Shornock wrote:
> > Is there a list FAQ I should have consulted - I didn't find one on
> > http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/
> > 
> > That is usually the best way to avoid having the same questions
> > asked over and over..
> > 
> > Alternatively, is there a searcheable archive? 
> 
> Ironically, it's linked on that URL you pasted.  You can search the
> archives at http://lists.debian.org/search.html and/or
> http://lists.debian.org/google.html

Curses - how did I miss that :-o

Thanks for pointing that out..

Regards,
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squirrelmail, debian testing [Fatal error: Call to a member function on a non-object...]

[Rafal Jankowski]

php4 4.4.2-1
apache-ssl   1.3.34-2
squirrelmail 1.4.5-2

I use squirrelmail from debian testing and for a few months and get the 
following php error:


Fatal error: Call to a member function on a non-object in 
/usr/share/squirrelmail/src/read_body.php on line 431


when I enter any attachment twice during one session. I have to log out 
and log in again to read attachment again.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.


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Re: debian-user and mutt...

[Andrei Popescu]

On Thu, 9 Feb 2006 15:27:22 +
Digby Tarvin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi
> 
> Thanks for your message..
> 
> On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 03:25:44PM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> > > 
> > > Why is it that on the other lists I subscribe to a 'reply' to
> > > a posting by default goes to the list, but on this list it
> > > goes only to the original poster, and a 'replay-all' goes to
> > > the list with CC to the poster, which is presumably what
> > > the signature abore refers to...
> > 
> > This has been discussed, I think once per month (at least) :)
> > It has to do with Reply-To munging and is a BIG flame-bait on
> > this list. So please don't start
> 
> Looks like I didn't wait long enough then - I've only been
> subscribed since Jan 25th..
> 
> Is there a list FAQ I should have consulted - I didn't find one on
>   http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/
> 
> That is usually the best way to avoid having the same questions
> asked over and over..

Kamaraju Kusumanchi (Raju) (I hope I didn't misspell his name) was putting 
together something like this. You can search for his posts. The thread was 
embedded in another thread about newbies ... a long thread.

> Alternatively, is there a searcheable archive? 

This is the official search page: http://lists.debian.org/search.html
Optionally the archive is hosted at gmane and google groops and I think a few 
other places. You can search, browse, post through their interfaces
 
[snip]
> > P.S. Reply-ing to your mail (in Sylpheed) put your address in CC.
> > It usually does not ...
> 
> There is nothing incorrect in my headers as far as I know, but I do
> use a 'Reply-to:' to make sure that mail goes to my mailbox rather
> than just back to wherever I happened to originate a message from...
> 
> Perhaps that causes your MUA to behave differently for some reason?
> 
> Regards,
> DigbyT
> -- 
> Digby R. S. Tarvin  
> digbyt(at)digbyt.com
> http://www.digbyt.com

That explains it. On a mailing list like this one, the Reply-To is normally 
used if you happen to post from a different address then the one subscribed (or 
you are not subscribed at all) and you want a CC to that address. BTW setting a 
Reply-To on other mailing list is useless as they are rewriting it. It's all 
explained very well in the link from cga

Regards
Andrei
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(Free)Radius + windows Wi-Fi client

[Rafal Jankowski]

Hello,

I use debian testing and I'd like to set Freeradius (or any other 
radius) for encrypted authentication for windows Wi-Fi clients, but when 
I set TLS, which is required by mschapv2, freeradius does not start, and 
there is in logfile:

Error: rlm_eap: Failed to link EAP-Type/tls: rlm_eap_tls.so: cannot open
shared object file: No such file or directory

Is it possible to adapt freeradius to ms windows EAP without 
recompilation? If so, I would be gratefull for config files.



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Re: LVM question

[Gabe Granger]

Thanks for pointing me in the right direction, i did the followingresize_reiserfs -s-14G /dev/mapper/onboard--sata-static Which finished saying "resize_reiserfs: Resizing finished successfully."But when I then tried to resize the LV using lvreduce -L -14G /dev/mapper/onboard--sata-staticI get the following errorVolume group mapper doesn't existWhat have I done wrong?On 9 Feb 2006, at 16:08, M. Maas wrote:Hi Gabe,Gabe Granger wrote: I've just installed linux on a new machine and thought I'd give RAID +LVM a go :) I've now discovered that I've created them the wrong sizes. I now need to shrink one and extend the other.I want to shrink LV /dev/onboard-sata/static by 20GB then extend LV/dev/onboard-sata/home by 20Gb.  I'm using reiserfs and not sure how Ishould correctly resize these volumes.  what is right way to do this? For the reducing, go here:http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/reducelv.html(Go down a bit until you see the section for reiserfs)For the extending go here:http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/extendlv.html(Again, do down for Reiserfs)Later,Mark 

Re: debian-user and mutt...

[hendrik]

On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 03:27:22PM +, Digby Tarvin wrote:
> Hi
> 
> Thanks for your message..
> 
> On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 03:25:44PM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> > > 
> > > Why is it that on the other lists I subscribe to a 'reply' to
> > > a posting by default goes to the list, but on this list it
> > > goes only to the original poster, and a 'replay-all' goes to
> > > the list with CC to the poster, which is presumably what
> > > the signature abore refers to...
> > 
> > This has been discussed, I think once per month (at least) :)
> > It has to do with Reply-To munging and is a BIG flame-bait on
> > this list. So please don't start
> 
> Looks like I didn't wait long enough then - I've only been
> subscribed since Jan 25th..
> 
> Is there a list FAQ I should have consulted - I didn't find one on
>   http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/
> 
> That is usually the best way to avoid having the same questions
> asked over and over..
> 
> Alternatively, is there a searcheable archive? 
> 
> I did browse the archive, but certainly not exhaustively, and
> didn't spot anything relevent.
> 
> I also checked the welcome messgage sent after subscribing, but
> didn't see any mention of FAQs or archive searches to consult
> before posting..
> 
> > > To avoid making that mistake I have been manually editing
> > > the header of each response, but that is a bit tedious, so I
> > > assume there is a better way which I have just never needed
> > > to find before..
> > > 
> > > I am using mutt - a bit over two years old (1.4.1i - I'm not
> > > reading my mail on the Debian machine) but it has done what I
> > > need up until now...
> > 
> > AFAIK in mutt you have to hit L to reply-to-list (I don't use mutt)
> > The rest are for mutt experts...
> 
> It seems you are right, in as much as there is an L command that appears
> to be intended to deal with lists, but on your message it just gives me
> 
>   No mailing lists found!

You may need to configure the mailing lists in your .muttrc file.
I used to have this done, but the mutt I have now doesn't seem to 
require it.

Here's the entire contents of the .muttrc file I used back when I needed 
it. (I found it on a backup -- always keep backups)

subscribe debian-user
subscribe fom.cs.nyu.edu
subscribe monotone-devel
subscribe smarteiffel.loria.fr
subscribe m3devel
subscribe tunes.tunes.org
subscribe plt-scheme.list.cs.brown.edu
subscribe stratego.cs.uu.nl
subscribe debian-testing.lists.debian.org

Maybe this helps?  There seems to be some way of abbreviating list names 
that I don't fully understand yet -- and probably never will, now that I 
don't seem to need it.

-- hendrik

> There is nothing incorrect in my headers as far as I know, but I do
> use a 'Reply-to:' to make sure that mail goes to my mailbox rather
> than just back to wherever I happened to originate a message from...

And that's what other mailing lists fuck up -- they mung the reply-to 
header to point to themselves, with the result that it may no longer be 
possible to reply personally to the original poster.

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Re: http://ftp.debian-unofficial.org/debian/dists/sarge/Release.gpg problem.

[Edward Shornock]

On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 04:01:38PM +, L.V.Gandhi wrote:
> I am using sarge with apt from backports. It needs gpg keys. For
> http://ftp.debian-unofficial.org/debian/dists/sarge/ I did
> lvgdell600m:~# GET
> http://ftp.debian-unofficial.org/debian/dists/sarge/Release.gpg | gpg
> --import
> gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found.
> gpg: Total number processed: 0
> I d/l Release.gpg and then did

> lvgdell600m:~# cat /home/lvgandhi/Release.gpg  | gpg --import
> gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found.
> gpg: Total number processed: 0

try:

gpg --recv-keys 2D230C5F
gpg --export 2D230C5F |apt-key add -

if you want this key:
pub   1024D/2D230C5F 2006-01-03 [expires: 2007-02-07]
uid  Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (2006)
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Re: Should I Abandon Mutt and Exim4?

[Thomas H. George]

On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 03:53:35AM -0700, Paul Scott wrote:
> Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> 
> >On 2006-01-13 17:04:23 +0100, Joachim Fahnenmüller wrote:
> > 
> >
> >>I also find exim difficult to configure.
> >>   
> >>
> >
> >Under Debian, there's almost nothing to do! Just answer a few questions.
> > 
> >
> That's great if you really understand the questions!
> 
> Paul Scott
> 
Actually it is not always a matter of answering a few questions.  In my
case it was necessary to edit the file exim.conf.template as
password.client did not work.  I have the instructions to do this in a
file but I have forgotten the vim command to attach it to this message.
I'll re-post it if anyone needs it.

Tom George
> 
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Re: gpg key for backports

[Edward Shornock]

On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 04:21:16PM +, L.V.Gandhi wrote:
> How to get and sign gpg keys for http://www.backports.org

If you need the backports key, try

gpg --recv-keys 16BA136C
gpg --export |apt-key add -

Found at
http://lists.backports.org/lurker/message/20051219.231854.feae4c8a.en.html


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Re: How to disable certain usb device discovery

[John W. M. Stevens]

On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 02:59:48PM +0800, Kai Cui wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> Our server is running latest debian (3.1r1). I'd like to know how to config
> the environment to prevent the kernel from auto discovering and making
> available any hard drive or cdrom attached via usb. By the way, the keyboard
> is of usb kind too.

Well, the easiest way would be to remove the USB mass storage driver.

However, this isn't strictly necessary because if you turn off automounting,
and don't put any user options into your fstab, regular users won't
be able to use USB devices anyway (if you don't slap a user option
on a device in fstab, only root can mount it).

For safeties sake, don't use udev, or if you do, make sure it creates
USB mass storage device special files with root.root ownership, and
0600 permissions.

This allows root to still use USB mass storage for system administration,
purposes and is just as safe as removing the driver (since, after all,
root can always reinstall the driver, being root), while still retaining
useful functionality.

Thanks,
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Re: debian-user and mutt...

[Edward Shornock]

On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 03:27:22PM +, Digby Tarvin wrote:
> Is there a list FAQ I should have consulted - I didn't find one on
>   http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/
> 
> That is usually the best way to avoid having the same questions
> asked over and over..
> 
> Alternatively, is there a searcheable archive? 

Ironically, it's linked on that URL you pasted.  You can search the
archives at http://lists.debian.org/search.html and/or
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[L.V.Gandhi]

How to get and sign gpg keys for http://www.backports.org

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http://ftp.debian-unofficial.org/debian/dists/sarge/Release.gpg problem.

[L.V.Gandhi]

I am using sarge with apt from backports. It needs gpg keys. For
http://ftp.debian-unofficial.org/debian/dists/sarge/ I did
lvgdell600m:~# GET
http://ftp.debian-unofficial.org/debian/dists/sarge/Release.gpg | gpg
--import
gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found.
gpg: Total number processed: 0
I d/l Release.gpg and then did

lvgdell600m:~# cat /home/lvgandhi/Release.gpg  | gpg --import
gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found.
gpg: Total number processed: 0

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Re: synaptic will not display after upgrade

[Rodney D. Myers]

On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 05:08:01 -0600
Hugo Vanwoerkom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Rodney D. Myers wrote:
> > I'm running debain sarge on my laptop. After I got out of hispital, I 
> > ran upgrate/upgrade, but did not pay any attention to what was being 
> > upgraded.
> > 
> > Now when I try to run "sudo synaptic:, I keep getting this error;
> > 
> > sudo synaptic
> > 
> > (synaptic:22313): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
> > 
> > I've even tried ssh'ing into this laptop, yet I get this same error 
> > message.
> > 
> 
> It's because in Sarge sudo was updated to version 1.6.8p7-1.3 and that 
> put restrictions on environment variables.
> 
> You now have to add into your sudoers:
> 
> Defaults env_reset, env_keep+="DISPLAY"
> 
> and then sudo /usr/sbin/synaptic will work again.
> 
> H
> 

Thank you very much. With the above added, it now functions again. :-)

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Re: debian-user and mutt...

[cga]

Digby Tarvin wrote:


On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 01:11:29AM -0200, Eduardo wrote:
 


Please do not CC me! Get a proper mailer instead: www.mutt.org
   



Ok, since someone has brought this up

Why is it that on the other lists I subscribe to a 'reply' to
a posting by default goes to the list, but on this list it
goes only to the original poster, and a 'replay-all' goes to
the list with CC to the poster, which is presumably what
the signature abore refers to...

To avoid making that mistake I have been manually editing
the header of each response, but that is a bit tedious, so I
assume there is a better way which I have just never needed
to find before..

I am using mutt - a bit over two years old (1.4.1i - I'm not
reading my mail on the Debian machine) but it has done what I
need up until now...

Do I need to install a newer release to interact with this
list conveniently, or is there a command/configuration option I
just havn't stumbled across?

While on the subject, I am having a lot more trouble finding a way
to identify messages from this list using mutt (so I can separate
them out from the spam...)

Most other lists either have something inserted in the subject line
to idenify the origin, or they appear to come from the least such 
that selecting messages from 'debian-user@lists.debian.org' would

suffice...

Is there a tricky way to do this, or is this something an upgrade
to a newer mutt would supply.?

Regards,
DigbyT
 

Just subscribed and may have missed some messages.. so I hope this is 
not redundant.


Check this out for an argumentation against:

http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html


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Re: debian-user and mutt...

[Digby Tarvin]

Hi

Thanks for your message..

On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 03:25:44PM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> > 
> > Why is it that on the other lists I subscribe to a 'reply' to
> > a posting by default goes to the list, but on this list it
> > goes only to the original poster, and a 'replay-all' goes to
> > the list with CC to the poster, which is presumably what
> > the signature abore refers to...
> 
> This has been discussed, I think once per month (at least) :)
> It has to do with Reply-To munging and is a BIG flame-bait on
> this list. So please don't start

Looks like I didn't wait long enough then - I've only been
subscribed since Jan 25th..

Is there a list FAQ I should have consulted - I didn't find one on
http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/

That is usually the best way to avoid having the same questions
asked over and over..

Alternatively, is there a searcheable archive? 

I did browse the archive, but certainly not exhaustively, and
didn't spot anything relevent.

I also checked the welcome messgage sent after subscribing, but
didn't see any mention of FAQs or archive searches to consult
before posting..

> > To avoid making that mistake I have been manually editing
> > the header of each response, but that is a bit tedious, so I
> > assume there is a better way which I have just never needed
> > to find before..
> > 
> > I am using mutt - a bit over two years old (1.4.1i - I'm not
> > reading my mail on the Debian machine) but it has done what I
> > need up until now...
> 
> AFAIK in mutt you have to hit L to reply-to-list (I don't use mutt)
> The rest are for mutt experts...

It seems you are right, in as much as there is an L command that appears
to be intended to deal with lists, but on your message it just gives me

No mailing lists found!

> P.S. Reply-ing to your mail (in Sylpheed) put your address in CC.
> It usually does not ...

There is nothing incorrect in my headers as far as I know, but I do
use a 'Reply-to:' to make sure that mail goes to my mailbox rather
than just back to wherever I happened to originate a message from...

Perhaps that causes your MUA to behave differently for some reason?

Regards,
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Re: g++ problem - Thanks

[Thomas H. George]

Thanks - I was just out of date.  It works now.

Tom


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Re: localhost -- MARK -- ????????

[cga]

Gene Heskett wrote:
[...]

Not Sigh.  The question as I see it, must be 'how do we adjust this hey 
I'm bored interval' to something a little bit less distracting, like 
maybe once a day at midnight or some such sillyness?  I'd much druther 
have real data in MY logs thank you. :)


 


man syslogd

-m interval
 The  syslogd  logs  a  mark  timestamp  regularly.   The  
default  interval between two -- MARK -- lines is 20 minutes.  This can 
be changed with this option.  Setting the interval to zero turns it off

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Re: debian-user and mutt...

[Kevin Mark]

On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 12:37:31PM +, Digby Tarvin wrote:
> 
> Most other lists either have something inserted in the subject line
> to idenify the origin, or they appear to come from the least such 
> that selecting messages from 'debian-user@lists.debian.org' would
> suffice...
Hi Digby,

in your muttrc use 'subscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED]'
and reply to messages by using 'L' for list reply
for mail sorting check for the 'List-Id' mail header
and match it for ''
This could be done with various mail tools like procmail.
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Re: ntp strangeness

[hendrik]

On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 04:18:38AM -0500, Ken Wahl wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 02:57:11AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > Sounds like your mobo is messed up.  My old mobo (a Shuttle SK41G)
> > drifted ~0.05 every 3 hours.  My new board (an Abit KV-81), drifts
> > more than 1/2 a second every 3 hours.
> 
> I had considered that at first but my gut still tells me that's not the
> case. It was keeping perfect time with NTP until a big dist-upgrade and
> a reboot. The board is 15 months old - an Abit AN7.
> 
> > Also, have you checked chrony?  It is an independent implementation
> > of the ntp protocol.
> 
> I've heard of it but not tried it. I did try the openntp package before
> NTP but tossed it for reasons I can't remember. I'm holding out to see
> if a fix for bug  #342887 corrects things or not. The original bugreport
> sounds exactly like the same symptoms I've been having.

I believe chrony not only checks the time with time servers, it also 
compensates in some way for hardware clock drift.
I use it on my boxes.  It doesn't seem to talk through IP-masquerading.
So I have chrony running on my IP-masquerading box and have the others 
talk to that one.

I no longer have any problems with clock drift.

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Re: Installing Debian from a DOS partition SOLVED

[M. Maas]

> 
> Here's an extremely inelegant way:
> 
> 1) install Woody base using floppies
> 
> Get those here:
> http://www.debian.org/releases/woody/i386/ch-appendix.en.html#s-obtain
> (Go to the section called 11.2.3.4.1 Base System Images:)
> Various driver disk images are in sections above this one
> 
> 2) apt-get distupgrade to Sarge off the web
> 
> Would this strategy work for you?
> 
> Rob
> 

Inelegant yes, but very effective! The link pointed to some other means
of booting.

Namely:
http://www.debian.org/releases/woody/i386/ch-rescue-boot.en.html#s-install-from-dos

So these two links together solve my problem!

Thanks!

Mark


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Re: gpg key error in unstable

[L.V.Gandhi]

I have sarge system. I use other repositories like
http://ftp.nerim.net, http://ftp.debian-unofficial.org,
http://www.backports.org. I upgraded apt to 0.6.43. it needs gpg keys
for all. I went to nerim and saw merillat key. I did
lvgdell600m:~# gpg --armor --export 1F41B907 | apt-key add -
gpg: directory `/root/.gnupg' created
gpg: new configuration file `/root/.gnupg/gpg.conf' created
gpg: WARNING: options in `/root/.gnupg/gpg.conf' are not yet active
during this run
gpg: keyring `/root/.gnupg/secring.gpg' created
gpg: keyring `/root/.gnupg/pubring.gpg' created
gpg: WARNING: nothing exported
gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found.
even then I got warning during apt-get update. then I tried
lvgdell600m:~# gpg --keyserver hkp://wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net --recv-keys 1F41B907
gpg: requesting key 1F41B907 from hkp server wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net
gpg: /root/.gnupg/trustdb.gpg: trustdb created
gpg: key 1F41B907: public key "Christian Marillat
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" imported
gpg: no ultimately trusted keys found
gpg: Total number processed: 1
gpg:   imported: 1
even now I got warning during apt-get update
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Re: debian-user and mutt...

[Magnus Therning]

On Thu, Feb 09, 2006 at 03:25:44PM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote:
>On Thu, 9 Feb 2006 12:37:31 +
>Digby Tarvin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[..]
>> To avoid making that mistake I have been manually editing
>> the header of each response, but that is a bit tedious, so I
>> assume there is a better way which I have just never needed
>> to find before..
>> 
>> I am using mutt - a bit over two years old (1.4.1i - I'm not
>> reading my mail on the Debian machine) but it has done what I
>> need up until now...
>
>AFAIK in mutt you have to hit L to reply-to-list (I don't use mutt) The
>rest are for mutt experts...

Yes, 'L' is the default key bound to reply-to-list. You may need to
modify the variable 'lists' as well. It's all well documented in the
muttrc manpage.

Mutt-ng (and possibly newer versions of mutt) can often work out if a
mail is from a list or not (using the mail headers I guess). Then you
don't need to worry about setting 'lists' except if you are on lists
that don't use appropriate headers. (Mutt-ng is available from Debian's
experimental repo.)

/M

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Re: XOrg+Radeon = No Direct Rendering?

[Jacob S]

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On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 09:53:47 +0100
Renato Serodio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Oh, I forgot about the xorg.conf file..
> 
> # xorg.conf (Xorg X Window System server configuration file)
> #
> # This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool,
> 
> Section "Module"
>   Load"GLcore"
>   Load"bitmap"
>   Load"dbe"
>   Load"ddc"
>   Load"glx"
>   Load"dri"
> # Load"extmod"
>   Load"freetype"
>   Load"int10"
>   Load"record"
>   Load"type1"
>   Load"v4l"
>   Load"vbe"
>   SubSection  "extmod"
>   Option "omit xfree86-dga"
>   EndSubSection
> EndSection

Section "Module"
Load"GLcore"
Load"bitmap"
Load"dbe"
Load"ddc"
Load"dri"
Load"extmod"
Load"freetype"
Load"glx"
Load"int10"
Load"record"
Load"speedo"
Load"type1"
Load"vbe"
EndSection

> 
> Section "Device"
>   Identifier  "ATI Technologies, Inc. Radeon R250 Lf
> [FireGL 9000]" Driver "radeon"
>   BusID   "PCI:1:0:0"
> 
>   Option  "UseInternalAGPART" "yes"
>   Option  "RenderAccel" "true"
>   Option  "AccelMethod" "EXA"
> EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier  "ATI Technologies, Inc. RV280 [Radeon 9200 SE]"
Driver  "radeon"
# Driver"ati"
# ChipId0x4967 - might be needed for dual-head
Option  "EnablePageFlip" "on"
EndSection

> Section "Monitor"
>   Identifier  "Generic Monitor"
>   Option  "DPMS"
>   HorizSync   30-90
>   VertRefresh 50-60
> EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier  "Generic Monitor"
HorizSync   31.0-60.0
VertRefresh 56.2-75.0
Option  "DPMS"
EndSection
 
> Section "Screen"
>   Identifier  "Default Screen"
>   Device  "ATI Technologies, Inc. Radeon R250 Lf
> [FireGL 9000]" Monitor"Generic Monitor"
>   DefaultDepth24
>   SubSection "Display"
>   Depth   24
>   Modes   "1680x1050"
>   EndSubSection
> EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier  "Default Screen"
Device  "ATI Technologies, Inc. RV280 [Radeon 9200 SE]"
Monitor "Generic Monitor"
DefaultDepth16
SubSection "Display"
Depth   1
Modes   "1024x768"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth   4
Modes   "1024x768"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth   8
Modes   "1024x768"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth   15
Modes   "1024x768"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth   16
Modes   "1024x768"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth   24
Modes   "1024x768"
EndSubSection
EndSection
 
> Section "ServerLayout"
>   Identifier  "Default Layout"
>   Screen  "Default Screen"
>   InputDevice "Generic Keyboard"
>   InputDevice "Configured Mouse"
>   InputDevice "Synaptics Touchpad"
> EndSection

Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier  "Default Layout"
Screen  "Default Screen"
InputDevice "Generic Keyboard"
InputDevice "Configured Mouse"
# InputDevice   "Generic Mouse"
EndSection
 
> Section "DRI"
>   Mode0666
> EndSection

Section "DRI"
Mode0666
EndSection

It looks like our xorg.conf files are pretty close. What happens if you
comment out the BusID and Option lines in your video card "Device"
section? After restarting X, try a glxinfo/glxgears and let us know
what they say. Which Intel chipset is on your motherboard?

Also, I wouldn't bother installing/compiling the ATI drivers. From what
I hear, the drivers in the Linux kernel are a lot better.

HTH,
Jacob
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Re: Technical Cyber Security Alert TA06-038A on Mozilla products

[Ralph Katz]

On 02/08/2006 07:40 AM, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> The following appeared yesterday on vulnerabilities in Mozilla products:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> National Cyber Alert System
> 
>  Technical Cyber Security Alert TA06-038A
> 
> 
> Multiple Vulnerabilities in Mozilla Products
> 
>Original release date: February 7, 2006
>Last revised: --
>Source: US-CERT
> 
> 
> Systems Affected
> 
>Mozilla software, including the following, is affected:
>  * Mozilla web browser, email and newsgroup client
>  * Mozilla SeaMonkey
>  * Firefox web browser
>  * Thunderbird email client
> 
> 
> Overview
> 
>Several vulnerabilities exist in the Mozilla web browser and derived
>products, the most serious of which could allow a remote attacker to
>execute arbitrary code on an affected system.

[...]

>  
> 
>The most recent version of this document can be found at:
> 
>  
>  


Of course firefox 1.5.0.1 is available in sid and at backports.org for
sarge.  I'm using the backports.org version for sarge.

Regards,
Ralph


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