Download debs of installed packages

2007-07-29 Thread Rage Callao
Hi,

How do I download the .debs of packages already installed in my system
without having to reinstall them first via apt?

The command I'm using right now is:

apt-get --yes --reinstall install `cat package_list.txt`

where package_list.txt contains the package names per line.

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Re: new Etch install fails to boot

2007-07-29 Thread Mumia W..

On 07/29/2007 04:43 PM, Steve Kleene wrote:

I just made a fresh Etch Netinst CD and successfully completed an install on
a PC that I bought six years ago.  When I try to boot, this is as far as it
gets:

  Verifying DMI Pool Data ..
  GRUB Loading stage1.5.
  Read

It may or may not be relevant to mention an issue I had in the past with this
box.  I used to run Red Hat on it but with a Windows partition at the start
of the disk.  During the Red Hat installation, I had to select "Force LBA32"
or it wouldn't find the Linux boot partition.

Now, though, I have given the whole disk to Etch, so I'd be surprised if this
is the issue.  There are just two partitions:

  IDE5 master (hde) - 41.2 GB IC35L040AVER07-0
#1 primary   39.9 GB B f ext3   /
#5 logical1.5 GB   f swap   swap

The BIOS (AWARD 1998 / PCI/PNP 686 / 276079428) shows:
  IDE Primary Master Auto (other choices are None, Manual)
  Access Mode Auto (other choices are Normal, LBA, Large)

I've tried various combinations, including LBA, to no avail.  The hard drives
are IBM Deskstar 40-GB IDE hard drives, model IC35L040AVER07-0.

Any ideas how to fix this?  Thanks.




Older BIOSes have restrictions on where the Linux kernel and other boot 
files must be located. LBA32 should be able to get past these 
restrictions, but in your case it might not be working.


If you can, try to get the boot files placed before the 1024th cylinder 
boundary. Sometimes this is at 0.5GB, 2.1GB or 8GB. Try a partition 
layout like so:


/boot (primary #1, 2.1GB)
/ (primary #2, 37.8GB)
swap (logical #5, 1.5GB)

/boot must be the first partition, and try to keep all of it below the 
1024th cylinder.



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Re: dumb question about Adobe Acrobat....

2007-07-29 Thread Alan Ianson
On Sun, 2007-29-07 at 15:12 -0500, Mumia W.. wrote:
> On 07/29/2007 02:20 PM, Kelly Clowers wrote:
> > 
> > The next version of Evince, due this fall, will also support form filling.
> > 
> 
> Can anyone point me to example of PDFs that have fillable forms? I just 
> want to play with the various form-filling features in OO.o, Evince, 
> pdftk and the others.

There are a few at http://www.rto.gov.bc.ca/

Click the forms & fee's link.


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Re: new Etch install fails to boot

2007-07-29 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Sun, Jul 29, 2007 at 11:00:30PM -0400, Steve Kleene wrote:
> [I wrote that my fresh Etch install calls grub and then stops.]

What happens if you reboot the installer in rescue mode and tell it to
install grub again?

Does the box have a floppy and do you have a grub-disk (I've never made
a grub-stick)?  Will that get you to a grub command line?

Doug.


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Re: Fonts -

2007-07-29 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Sun, Jul 29, 2007 at 11:04:23PM -0400, Rick wrote:
> On Sunday 29 July 2007 10:56:41 pm Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:
> > On Sun, Jul 29, 2007 at 10:27:27PM -0400, Rick wrote:
> > > Wonder, if there are any good mono-fonts for debian,
> > > that I can install extra.
> >
> > What is a mono-font?
> 
> fonts characters that are equally space apart from each other, and with the 
> same height.. 
> 

Oh, monospaced (not monochrome or monoline [as from a plotter] ).  What
about those in the dejavu??  package, or in gsfonts-x11.  Terminus?
Courier?  

Doug.


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Re: Fonts -

2007-07-29 Thread Mathias Brodala
Hi Rick.

Rick, 30.07.2007 04:27:
> Wonder, if there are any good mono-fonts for debian,
> that I can install extra.

Just search the web for a font you like. As long as they are in the usual
TrueType format, you can just drop them into /usr/local/share/fonts/truetype.

My all time favorites are Monaco and Lucida Console.


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Re: Fonts -

2007-07-29 Thread Rick
On Sunday 29 July 2007 10:56:41 pm Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 29, 2007 at 10:27:27PM -0400, Rick wrote:
> > Wonder, if there are any good mono-fonts for debian,
> > that I can install extra.
>
> What is a mono-font?
>
> Doug.

fonts characters that are equally space apart from each other, and with the 
same height.. 

Richard


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Re: dumb question about Adobe Acrobat....

2007-07-29 Thread Mumia W..

On 07/29/2007 02:20 PM, Kelly Clowers wrote:


The next version of Evince, due this fall, will also support form filling.



Can anyone point me to example of PDFs that have fillable forms? I just 
want to play with the various form-filling features in OO.o, Evince, 
pdftk and the others.




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Re: new Etch install fails to boot

2007-07-29 Thread Steve Kleene
[I wrote that my fresh Etch install calls grub and then stops.]

On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 07:56:04 +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] replied:
> Sometimes older bios has a virus protection enabled in the bios itself.
> This does not allow anything to be written to the MBR to protect MBR
> viruses. ...  Can you check your bios once again and try disabling the
> virus protection (re-enable it later once things are working)
> and re-install the grub and check ?

Thanks for a good suggestion.  However, my BIOS already has "Virus Warning"
set to "Disabled".  This feature is described as follows:

 "Allows you to choose the VIRUS warning feature for IDE Hard Disk boot
  sector protection.  If this function is enabled and someone attempts to
  write data into this area, BIOS will show a warning message on screen and
  alarm beep."

Since this is already set to "Disabled", and since I didn't see a warning
message, I'm not sure that this can account for the problem.


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pidgin problem

2007-07-29 Thread Magicloud Magiclouds

Dear all,
   I am using unstable brench. Today I did an "apt-get update; apt-get 
upgrade; reboot", then my pidgin can not response to keyboard at all. I 
can not key in anything, but my mouse works well (click, and paste text 
by right-click menu). And all other programs (firefox, and so on) have 
no problems.


Thanks.


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Re: Fonts -

2007-07-29 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Sun, Jul 29, 2007 at 10:27:27PM -0400, Rick wrote:
> Wonder, if there are any good mono-fonts for debian,
> that I can install extra.

What is a mono-font?

Doug.


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Re: how to set network io priority for a process?

2007-07-29 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Sun, Jul 29, 2007 at 10:42:29PM -0400, Celejar wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 20:11:43 -0400
> Douglas Allan Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > On Sun, Jul 29, 2007 at 03:32:44PM -0400, Celejar wrote:
> >  
> > > I have issues similar to Doug's, and I have also wondered whether
> > > kernel based traffic shaping is what I need.  Since we both use
> > > shorewall, which has an interface to the kernel's shaping capabilities,
> > > I suppose we ought to read shorewall-doc/html/traffic_shaping.htm
> > > 
> > 
> > As expected, shorewall can't help in this regard.
> 
> Why not?
> 

At best, it can duplicate wondershaper.  However, its designed for
high-speed internet access.  Its hysteresis is larger than my dialup
bandwidth.  

The big issue is that none of the available shaping methods work by
throttling outgoing requests for a chunck of incoming data.  They are
intended to limit the rate of outbound data.

What we need is a multi-protocol proxy server that does proper
throttling of download requests.

Doug.


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Re: Ok, one problem solved. Now another.

2007-07-29 Thread Allan Wind
On 2007-07-29T21:20:37-0500, Brad B wrote:
> I managed to get the errors mentioned in my last message to cease by
> switching from my PCI to onboard video cards, but now X  won't start. It
> says it can't detect my screen, even though it seems to be correctly
> configured to my onboard card when i view the data in xorg.conf. Anyone have
> some input on why this is happening?

Do you have the ability to post your xorg.conf, and the Xorg.log file 
somewhere?  If not at least show us monitor, device, screen, and 
screenlayout sections, as well as the part of the log file showing the 
error.  My wild guess is that your screenlayout points to the old 
graphics card.


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Re: how to set network io priority for a process?

2007-07-29 Thread Celejar
On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 20:11:43 -0400
Douglas Allan Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Sun, Jul 29, 2007 at 03:32:44PM -0400, Celejar wrote:
>  
> > I have issues similar to Doug's, and I have also wondered whether
> > kernel based traffic shaping is what I need.  Since we both use
> > shorewall, which has an interface to the kernel's shaping capabilities,
> > I suppose we ought to read shorewall-doc/html/traffic_shaping.htm
> > 
> 
> As expected, shorewall can't help in this regard.

Why not?

> Doug.

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Fonts -

2007-07-29 Thread Rick
Wonder, if there are any good mono-fonts for debian,
that I can install extra.

Thanks -
Richard


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Re: new Etch install fails to boot

2007-07-29 Thread Bhasker C V
Hi,

 Sometimes older bios has a virus protection enabled in the bios itself.
This does not allow anything to be written to the MBR to protect MBR
viruses. I have faced this problem whereby the MBR gets cooked and the
GRUB does not get written  properly. Looking at your information it
looks like grub is not able to proceed. Can you check your bios once
again and try disabling the virus protection (re-enable it later once
things are working) and re-install the grub and check ?

On Sun, 2007-07-29 at 17:43 -0400, Steve Kleene wrote:
> I just made a fresh Etch Netinst CD and successfully completed an install on
> a PC that I bought six years ago.  When I try to boot, this is as far as it
> gets:
> 
>   Verifying DMI Pool Data ..
>   GRUB Loading stage1.5.
>   Read
> 
> It may or may not be relevant to mention an issue I had in the past with this
> box.  I used to run Red Hat on it but with a Windows partition at the start
> of the disk.  During the Red Hat installation, I had to select "Force LBA32"
> or it wouldn't find the Linux boot partition.
> 
> Now, though, I have given the whole disk to Etch, so I'd be surprised if this
> is the issue.  There are just two partitions:
> 
>   IDE5 master (hde) - 41.2 GB IC35L040AVER07-0
> #1 primary   39.9 GB B f ext3   /
> #5 logical1.5 GB   f swap   swap
> 
> The BIOS (AWARD 1998 / PCI/PNP 686 / 276079428) shows:
>   IDE Primary Master Auto (other choices are None, Manual)
>   Access Mode Auto (other choices are Normal, LBA, Large)
> 
> I've tried various combinations, including LBA, to no avail.  The hard drives
> are IBM Deskstar 40-GB IDE hard drives, model IC35L040AVER07-0.
> 
> Any ideas how to fix this?  Thanks.
> 
> 
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Ok, one problem solved. Now another.

2007-07-29 Thread Brad B
I managed to get the errors mentioned in my last message to cease by
switching from my PCI to onboard video cards, but now X  won't start. It
says it can't detect my screen, even though it seems to be correctly
configured to my onboard card when i view the data in xorg.conf. Anyone have
some input on why this is happening?


Re: Lost /home partition

2007-07-29 Thread Dotan Cohen
On 30/07/07, Douglas Allan Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 30, 2007 at 04:04:29AM +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote:
> > The disk simply was not mounted! I've now mounted it, and I'm backing
> > it up. Reading up on rsync, as well. Sorry for the false alarm...
> >
>
> df is your friend.
>
> Once you have it backed up, compare it with your previous backup.  It is
> possible that some files may be missing.
>
> Doug.
>

Thanks, Doug. That last backup is way out of date, so it would not be
an accurate check. But I will go through it and check for missing
files. Thanks.

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Re: Lost /home partition

2007-07-29 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Mon, Jul 30, 2007 at 04:04:29AM +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote:
> The disk simply was not mounted! I've now mounted it, and I'm backing
> it up. Reading up on rsync, as well. Sorry for the false alarm...
> 

df is your friend.

Once you have it backed up, compare it with your previous backup.  It is
possible that some files may be missing.

Doug.


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Re: Lost /home partition

2007-07-29 Thread Dotan Cohen
The disk simply was not mounted! I've now mounted it, and I'm backing
it up. Reading up on rsync, as well. Sorry for the false alarm...

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Re: [solved] Re: Problems with text file going from Linux to MS Windows

2007-07-29 Thread - Tong -
On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 12:19:17 +1000, Andy Goss wrote:

> Rodolfo Medina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
>>> If I want to send a text file to an MS Windows user there are problems: in
>>> fact, in MS Windows a text file which has been composed under Linux is not
>>> correctly read: the line ends are not recognised. 

>>> Can anybody suggest some solution to this problem?

Use MS-DOS-file format, if you want to share text files between Linux and
Windoze. 

As most have pointed out, most Linux text editors can recognize and use
the MS-DOS-file format files. I'll add emacs to the list.

>>> The remedy is to cut the text
>>> and paste it into an MS Word file, then cut it again and re-paste it into 
>>> the
>>> text file, which is not so good because this way I need rebooting every time
>>> into the Windows partition.

That's too much troublesome. Use 
unix2dos (/usr/bin/unix2dos) and dos2unix (/usr/local/bin/dos2unix)
to convert file formats between Unix & Dos. 

The unix2dos & dos2unix is from the tofrodos package.

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Re: how to set network io priority for a process?

2007-07-29 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Sun, Jul 29, 2007 at 03:32:44PM -0400, Celejar wrote:
 
> I have issues similar to Doug's, and I have also wondered whether
> kernel based traffic shaping is what I need.  Since we both use
> shorewall, which has an interface to the kernel's shaping capabilities,
> I suppose we ought to read shorewall-doc/html/traffic_shaping.htm
> 

As expected, shorewall can't help in this regard.

Doug.


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Re: Lost /home partition

2007-07-29 Thread Jeff D

On Mon, 30 Jul 2007, Dotan Cohen wrote:


On 30/07/07, Douglas Allan Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Mon, Jul 30, 2007 at 02:05:38AM +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote:

In a Debian-based distro (Ubuntu) I have had a corruption of my /home
partition, which resides on sda4 of my Dell Inspiron laptop. Not
knowing what to do, and with no way to boot and google the situation,
I played Y, Y, Y to all fsck's questions. Now, /home is empty. I do
have a backup from 4 weeks ago, as I backup the first of every month,
but I have done quite a bit of work this past month. I'm very
interested in recovering the data.


A corrupted /home should not keep you from booting.  You may need to go
single-user or init=/bin/sh but it should boot.

Probably should have backed up more recently.  It sounds like you made
things worse with the YYY.

Good luck.

Doug.



Maybe something additional was corrupted, bu I only remember seeing
references to sda4, which is /home. Any idea how to get the data back?

Dotan Cohen



Hi Dotan,

So, when you boot up and get a prompt, I take it that /home is indeed
being mounted?  If so, one thing you might want to do, is look in
/home/lost+found , in there you might be able to find your files, but they
won't be named the same though.  If they are there, they will be named
numerically..


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Re: Lost /home partition

2007-07-29 Thread Jeff D

On Mon, 30 Jul 2007, Dotan Cohen wrote:


In a Debian-based distro (Ubuntu) I have had a corruption of my /home
partition, which resides on sda4 of my Dell Inspiron laptop. Not
knowing what to do, and with no way to boot and google the situation,
I played Y, Y, Y to all fsck's questions. Now, /home is empty. I do
have a backup from 4 weeks ago, as I backup the first of every month,
but I have done quite a bit of work this past month. I'm very
interested in recovering the data.

More info: This is a Dell Inspiron machine, 2.0GHz dual-core Intel
processor, 2GB RAM, 80GB 7000RPM hard drive, ATI X1400 video. The disk
is partitioned with sda1: 15GB /; sda2: 15 GB blank (Fedora was to go
here) ; sda3: 3GB swap ; sda4: ~47 GB /home. I set these partitions a
few months ago when I last installed Ubuntu. I had begun install of
Fedora 7 when the machine crashed- I didn't get to the real install
part. Upon rebooting (into Ubuntu), it complained something about
inodes. I gave it the root paassword (yes, I had previously set a root
password) and ran fsck (or something else resembling a rather
unacceptable work, appropriate name by the way). A few Y, Y, Y's later
I could boot the system. However, as soon as I logged into KDE I was
returned to the login screen. I CTRL-ALT-F4ed into a terminal and
logged in as root. I then cd'ed into /home, and ls showed that there
was nothing there. I immediatly ran shutdown -h and now that I'm home
I'm writing from the wife's desktop.

Any help in recovering the /home/user directory, or even specific
files therein, whould be very much appreciated. Thank you in advance.

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Hi Dotan,

So, when you boot up and get a prompt, I take it that /home is indeed 
being mounted?  If so, one thing you might want to do, is look in 
/home/lost+found , in there you might be able to find your files, but they 
won't be named the same though.  If they are there, they will be named 
numerically..



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Re: Lost /home partition

2007-07-29 Thread John Hasler
Dotan Cohen wrote:
> Now, /home is empty.

Look in /home/lost+found.
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Re: Lost /home partition

2007-07-29 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Mon, Jul 30, 2007 at 02:34:55AM +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote:
> On 30/07/07, Douglas Allan Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Mon, Jul 30, 2007 at 02:05:38AM +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote:
> > > In a Debian-based distro (Ubuntu) I have had a corruption of my /home
> > > partition, which resides on sda4 of my Dell Inspiron laptop. Not
> > > knowing what to do, and with no way to boot and google the situation,
> > > I played Y, Y, Y to all fsck's questions. Now, /home is empty. I do
> > > have a backup from 4 weeks ago, as I backup the first of every month,
> > > but I have done quite a bit of work this past month. I'm very
> > > interested in recovering the data.
> >
> > A corrupted /home should not keep you from booting.  You may need to go
> > single-user or init=/bin/sh but it should boot.

> Maybe something additional was corrupted, bu I only remember seeing
> references to sda4, which is /home. Any idea how to get the data back?
> 

Undeletion in *NIX is either very difficult, expensive, or impossible.
Unless you got lucky and they ended up in lost+found only slightly
mangled.

If you want to try recovery, unmount sda4 and remove it from fstab.
With it mounted, things change.  Then aptitude search ~drecover and look
at some tools.  Try something like foremost or magicrescue.  Read the
documentation, follow the instructions, and only mount the partition
again if it says to.  Often such tools work by reading the block device
itself, bypassing the filesystem.

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Re: Lost /home partition

2007-07-29 Thread Andy Smith
On Mon, Jul 30, 2007 at 02:34:55AM +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote:
> Maybe something additional was corrupted, bu I only remember seeing
> references to sda4, which is /home. Any idea how to get the data back?

It may have been placed in /home/lost+found named after its inode
number, i.e. filenames that are all numbers.  Failing that, no,
probably not.

If they are text files you may be able to unmount the device and
grep the raw device file for known text in the files, e.g.

# less /dev/sda4

'/' to search for text

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Re: Lost /home partition

2007-07-29 Thread Dotan Cohen
On 30/07/07, Douglas Allan Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 30, 2007 at 02:05:38AM +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote:
> > In a Debian-based distro (Ubuntu) I have had a corruption of my /home
> > partition, which resides on sda4 of my Dell Inspiron laptop. Not
> > knowing what to do, and with no way to boot and google the situation,
> > I played Y, Y, Y to all fsck's questions. Now, /home is empty. I do
> > have a backup from 4 weeks ago, as I backup the first of every month,
> > but I have done quite a bit of work this past month. I'm very
> > interested in recovering the data.
>
> A corrupted /home should not keep you from booting.  You may need to go
> single-user or init=/bin/sh but it should boot.
>
> Probably should have backed up more recently.  It sounds like you made
> things worse with the YYY.
>
> Good luck.
>
> Doug.
>

Maybe something additional was corrupted, bu I only remember seeing
references to sda4, which is /home. Any idea how to get the data back?

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Re: Lost /home partition

2007-07-29 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Mon, Jul 30, 2007 at 02:05:38AM +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote:
> In a Debian-based distro (Ubuntu) I have had a corruption of my /home
> partition, which resides on sda4 of my Dell Inspiron laptop. Not
> knowing what to do, and with no way to boot and google the situation,
> I played Y, Y, Y to all fsck's questions. Now, /home is empty. I do
> have a backup from 4 weeks ago, as I backup the first of every month,
> but I have done quite a bit of work this past month. I'm very
> interested in recovering the data.

A corrupted /home should not keep you from booting.  You may need to go
single-user or init=/bin/sh but it should boot.

Probably should have backed up more recently.  It sounds like you made
things worse with the YYY.

Good luck.

Doug.


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Lost /home partition

2007-07-29 Thread Dotan Cohen
In a Debian-based distro (Ubuntu) I have had a corruption of my /home
partition, which resides on sda4 of my Dell Inspiron laptop. Not
knowing what to do, and with no way to boot and google the situation,
I played Y, Y, Y to all fsck's questions. Now, /home is empty. I do
have a backup from 4 weeks ago, as I backup the first of every month,
but I have done quite a bit of work this past month. I'm very
interested in recovering the data.

More info: This is a Dell Inspiron machine, 2.0GHz dual-core Intel
processor, 2GB RAM, 80GB 7000RPM hard drive, ATI X1400 video. The disk
is partitioned with sda1: 15GB /; sda2: 15 GB blank (Fedora was to go
here) ; sda3: 3GB swap ; sda4: ~47 GB /home. I set these partitions a
few months ago when I last installed Ubuntu. I had begun install of
Fedora 7 when the machine crashed- I didn't get to the real install
part. Upon rebooting (into Ubuntu), it complained something about
inodes. I gave it the root paassword (yes, I had previously set a root
password) and ran fsck (or something else resembling a rather
unacceptable work, appropriate name by the way). A few Y, Y, Y's later
I could boot the system. However, as soon as I logged into KDE I was
returned to the login screen. I CTRL-ALT-F4ed into a terminal and
logged in as root. I then cd'ed into /home, and ls showed that there
was nothing there. I immediatly ran shutdown -h and now that I'm home
I'm writing from the wife's desktop.

Any help in recovering the /home/user directory, or even specific
files therein, whould be very much appreciated. Thank you in advance.

Dotan Cohen

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Re: poll: use of kernel schedulers?

2007-07-29 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Andrei Popescu wrote:

On Sun, Jul 29, 2007 at 11:00:30PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:

On Sun, Jul 29, 2007 at 08:18:57AM -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:


I am currently running Debian's:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ uname -a
Linux debian 2.6.22-1-k7 #1 SMP PREEMPT Sun Jul 29 07:39:18 CDT 2007 i686 

  ^^^
Is this because of the -ck patch?


I mean the 'PREEMPT' (if there are troubles with the alignement).



I follow the Debian guide to recompiling its 2.6.22-1-k7 completely, 
except, I apply 2.6.22-ck1, apply debian-logo patch and change these 
configs:


Preemption Model (Preemptible Kernel (Low-Latency Desktop))
[*]   Debian GNU/Linux Open Use logo
[*] Show timing information on printks

Hugo


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Re: RAD tool for debian?

2007-07-29 Thread - Tong -
On Fri, 06 Jul 2007 15:50:45 -0500, will trillich wrote:

> RAD/rapid-application-development tool sought... (web page forms
> interface to a database we define)

"RAD tool for debian"? 

I think the subject needs to be fixed, 'cause when talking about RAD tool,
you would definitely want that it is not limited within Debian. 

Nahh, just kidding...

> i've got a friend who's trying to get a license-free solution that'll
> provide an html/web front-end to a database... similar to ms access,
> but we're seeking 1) no licensing fees 2) an html interface, not a
> proprietary interface. we're NOT looking for a cms like joomla, but
> rather an engine for presenting forms to interact with a back-end
> database.

IMHO, for such requirement, no tools fit better than symfony. 
http://xpt.sourceforge.net/techdocs/language/php/symfony/sf01-SymfonyGeneral/ar01s02.html#_What_is_symfony_

Extract:

It is based on the following concepts:

* compatible with as many environments as possible
* easy to install and configure
* simple to learn
* enterprise ready
* convention rather than configuration, supporting fallback calls
* simple in most cases, but still flexible enough to adapt to complex cases
* most common web features included
* compliant with most of the web "best practices" and web "design patterns"
* very readable code with easy maintenance
* open source 

FYI, Symfony uses some code fragments of other open source projects:

* Creole, for the database abstraction layer
* Propel, for the object-relational mapping layer
* Mojavi, for the Model-View-Controller model layer 

On seeing that, I told myself, "boy! That's it, That's what I want!"
And it turned out that I made the right choice -- all you need to do
is to describe your database schema in .xml file, or better a more
human-readable, more easy .yml format. That's it!

Put it this way, you only need to focus on the logical of your database
design, ie, the schema, and describe it in a format much obvious and more
human-readable than .xml, then Symfony takes care of the rest!!!

"for presenting forms to interact with a back-end database" I bet I could
finish all your preliminary requirements and give you such presenting
forms within a day or even half a day! 

And definitely, Symfony does not simply ends there. Need to build a blog?
Want AJAX support? How about drag and drop (shopping cart)? ... Your limit
is only your imagination. Check it out:

http://xpt.sourceforge.net/techdocs/language/php/symfony/
http://xpt.sourceforge.net/techdocs/language/php/symfony/sf01-SymfonyGeneral/index.html#_symfony


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new Etch install fails to boot

2007-07-29 Thread Steve Kleene
I just made a fresh Etch Netinst CD and successfully completed an install on
a PC that I bought six years ago.  When I try to boot, this is as far as it
gets:

  Verifying DMI Pool Data ..
  GRUB Loading stage1.5.
  Read

It may or may not be relevant to mention an issue I had in the past with this
box.  I used to run Red Hat on it but with a Windows partition at the start
of the disk.  During the Red Hat installation, I had to select "Force LBA32"
or it wouldn't find the Linux boot partition.

Now, though, I have given the whole disk to Etch, so I'd be surprised if this
is the issue.  There are just two partitions:

  IDE5 master (hde) - 41.2 GB IC35L040AVER07-0
#1 primary   39.9 GB B f ext3   /
#5 logical1.5 GB   f swap   swap

The BIOS (AWARD 1998 / PCI/PNP 686 / 276079428) shows:
  IDE Primary Master Auto (other choices are None, Manual)
  Access Mode Auto (other choices are Normal, LBA, Large)

I've tried various combinations, including LBA, to no avail.  The hard drives
are IBM Deskstar 40-GB IDE hard drives, model IC35L040AVER07-0.

Any ideas how to fix this?  Thanks.


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Re: Unable to handle Kernel paging request

2007-07-29 Thread Brad B
Hey,
thanks for the reply.
I have two harddrives; one is never in the computer, and was blank. I bought
it awhile ago and meant to put debian on it then, but never did. The other
one has Windows XP on it, and it isn't in the computer right now.

So put simply, I only have one computer, and the only HD in it right now is
a linux hard drive.
--Brad


On 7/29/07, Douglas Allan Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Sun, Jul 29, 2007 at 03:56:26PM -0500, Brad B wrote:
> > I recently did the network installation of Debian to a spare HD, and
> tried
> > running it by itself in my PC, which usually runs windows. It boots into
> > grub, but I get serveral different error messages at different times.
> I'm
> > never able to load the kernel, I believe. Here're the most common
> errors:
> > Unable to handle kernal paging request
> > Kernal Panic -- Not Syncing
>
> Are you saying that you installed with the drive in one computer but are
> trying to boot it in another computer?  My guess is that the two
> different computers would need different initramfs.
>
> Since I've never run into this, I've never had to fitz with initramfs;
> just a pointer.
>
> Doug.
>
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Re: dumb question about Adobe Acrobat....

2007-07-29 Thread Alan Ianson
On Sun July 29 2007 13:14, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 29, 2007 at 12:32:18PM -0700, Alan Ianson wrote:
> > > The next version of Evince, due this fall, will also support form
> > > filling.
> >
> > That is such good news.. exactly what I have been hoping to read.. I've
> > been looking for a way to fill in pdf forms for an amd64 box I have
> > here.
>
> I have been under the impression that evince and kpdf use xpdf behind
> the scenes.  Does this mean that xpdf will be able to do this too, or 
> are evince (and perhaps kpdf) more functional than xpdf?

I'm not certain, I don't use pdf's often. I need to fill in forms in pdf files 
and print them at work quite regularly but aside from that I never use/see 
them.

Once one of them can do it I'm sure the code will make the rounds (in a gpl 
compliant way, of course) and it won't be long until the others can do it to.

I recently installed debian at work and struggled to get the printer and these 
pdf issues working so that is why I'm so glad to see we will have an easy way 
to edit forms in pdf's. :)


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Re: Unable to handle Kernel paging request

2007-07-29 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Sun, Jul 29, 2007 at 03:56:26PM -0500, Brad B wrote:
> I recently did the network installation of Debian to a spare HD, and tried
> running it by itself in my PC, which usually runs windows. It boots into
> grub, but I get serveral different error messages at different times. I'm
> never able to load the kernel, I believe. Here're the most common errors:
> Unable to handle kernal paging request
> Kernal Panic -- Not Syncing

Are you saying that you installed with the drive in one computer but are
trying to boot it in another computer?  My guess is that the two
different computers would need different initramfs.

Since I've never run into this, I've never had to fitz with initramfs;
just a pointer.

Doug.


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Re: how to set network io priority for a process?\

2007-07-29 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Sun, Jul 29, 2007 at 01:54:36PM -0700, Mike Bird wrote:
 
> Traffic "shaping" usually applies to output.  "Policing"[0] usually applies
> to input.  Since we often can't shape on the router transmitting data to
> us, in such cases we instead have to police on the receiving end and rely
> on the sender's TCP flow control to reduce rates to the point where
> packets aren't lost.  This doesn't work for UDP and ICMP and works poorly
> for varying loads.

Right, but downloads happen by blocks.  Couldn't something sit somewhere
on the data stream and delay the requests for the net ftp or rsync block
if there's an active http transfer in progress?  In other words,
controll the download bandwidth by throttling the rate of upbound
requests.

Doug.


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Unable to handle Kernel paging request

2007-07-29 Thread Brad B
Hey,
I recently did the network installation of Debian to a spare HD, and tried
running it by itself in my PC, which usually runs windows. It boots into
grub, but I get serveral different error messages at different times. I'm
never able to load the kernel, I believe. Here're the most common errors:
Unable to handle kernal paging request
Kernal Panic -- Not Syncing
And another which only consists of addresses.
I've tried modifying grub.conf to try and find the kernel, but that didn't
help.

Here're the specs on my system:
80GB Maxtor HD (With debian netinst'd on it)
1GB RAM
Intel Celeron Processer, 2.7 ghz
nVidia 6200 video card
One CD-RW drive, one DVD-ROM drive

If you think you'd be up to it, you could also give me a call by phone to
help. (251)-978-1092

 I'd like it if anyone pretty experienced with Debian could help me.

--Brad


Re: how to set network io priority for a process?

2007-07-29 Thread Mike Bird
On Sunday 29 July 2007 13:11, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 29, 2007 at 03:32:44PM -0400, Celejar wrote:
> > I have issues similar to Doug's, and I have also wondered whether
> > kernel based traffic shaping is what I need.  Since we both use
> > shorewall, which has an interface to the kernel's shaping capabilities,
> > I suppose we ought to read shorewall-doc/html/traffic_shaping.htm
>
> That's what I'm about to do.  I've only recently (within the past hour
> or two) determined that traffic shaping is what I'm trying to do.

This is not a solution, just a tip to guide your research.

Traffic "shaping" usually applies to output.  "Policing"[0] usually applies
to input.  Since we often can't shape on the router transmitting data to
us, in such cases we instead have to police on the receiving end and rely
on the sender's TCP flow control to reduce rates to the point where
packets aren't lost.  This doesn't work for UDP and ICMP and works poorly
for varying loads.

--Mike Bird

[0] http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/105/policevsshape.html#policingvsshaping


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Re: poll: use of kernel schedulers?

2007-07-29 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sun, Jul 29, 2007 at 11:00:30PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 29, 2007 at 08:18:57AM -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
> 
> > I am currently running Debian's:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ uname -a
> > Linux debian 2.6.22-1-k7 #1 SMP PREEMPT Sun Jul 29 07:39:18 CDT 2007 i686 
> ^^^
> Is this because of the -ck patch?

I mean the 'PREEMPT' (if there are troubles with the alignement).

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Re: dumb question about Adobe Acrobat....

2007-07-29 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 12:20:55 -0700
"Kelly Clowers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hello Kelly,

> The next version of Evince, due this fall, will also support form
> filling.

More choice;  I love it.   :-)

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Re: IM on a home debian network

2007-07-29 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sun, Jul 29, 2007 at 04:22:23PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:
 
> > > There was a time when I had Ctrl-Alt-UP set in inittab to open a new vt.
> > 
> > Never heard of 'screen'?
> > 
> 
> I have heard of it, but it relies, like so many other gnu tools, on the
> operator (me) having either a good memory or a cheat-sheet for
> keystrokes.  I have a poor memory (learning disability) and a
> cheat-sheet makes using it very slow.  Whereas, Ctrl-Alt-UP is simple.

The keybindings are configurable.

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Re: dumb question about Adobe Acrobat....

2007-07-29 Thread Kelly Clowers
On 7/29/07, Douglas Allan Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 29, 2007 at 12:32:18PM -0700, Alan Ianson wrote:
>  >
> > > The next version of Evince, due this fall, will also support form filling.
> >
> > That is such good news.. exactly what I have been hoping to read.. I've
> > been looking for a way to fill in pdf forms for an amd64 box I have
> > here.
> >
>
> I have been under the impression that evince and kpdf use xpdf behind
> the scenes.  Does this mean that xpdf will be able to do this too, or
> are evince (and perhaps kpdf) more functional than xpdf?

Evince uses poppler, which was forked from xpdf quite some time ago.
Kpdf upstream uses xpdf, but some distros hacked it to use poppler
(I'm not sure if Debian did or not). I believe xpdf development is mostly
dead.

Okular, the KDE 4 universal viewer, will use poppler for pdfs.


Cheers,
Kelly


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Re: IM on a home debian network

2007-07-29 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Sun, Jul 29, 2007 at 10:54:34PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 28, 2007 at 11:30:05PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:
>  
> > and leave this VC 1 open.  VC 2 is ssh'd to the box and either mutt or
> > $watch -n 20 "from -c"
> > 
> > VC 3 is for net-related curses stuff (currently a wget session).
> > VC 4 is where I type startx when I need to.
> > 
> > There was a time when I had Ctrl-Alt-UP set in inittab to open a new vt.
> 
> Never heard of 'screen'?
> 

I have heard of it, but it relies, like so many other gnu tools, on the
operator (me) having either a good memory or a cheat-sheet for
keystrokes.  I have a poor memory (learning disability) and a
cheat-sheet makes using it very slow.  Whereas, Ctrl-Alt-UP is simple.

Doug.


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Re: curses-interface ftp client with resume?

2007-07-29 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Sun, Jul 29, 2007 at 10:51:14PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 28, 2007 at 09:44:28PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:
> > I'm on dialup and often access the internet via a slow computer by
> > sshing into my fast computer (which has the modem).
> > 
> > Right now, if I want to download something like an iso file via ftp
> > (there being no rsync mirror available), I put the url in a file, e.g.
> 
> No torrents either?

No.  For my current download, I found a mirror that also offers rsync
(although it doesn't advertise it).  However, lots of things are
available via FTP that aren't available any other way.

> > 3.  It would be nice to have a curses interface like mc that lets me
> > browse to the correct file, then tag the file for downloading which puts
> > it into the above queue.
> 
> AFAIK mc can do ftp. I didn't use it much, but it might do most of what 
> you need.

mc  can't resume; it only wants to overwrite, append, or cancel.

Doug.


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Re: /bin/login listening?

2007-07-29 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Sun, Jul 29, 2007 at 12:44:56PM -0700, Jeff D wrote:
> On that note, one thing that you might want to consider as part of the 
> hardening process is to install aide or some other file integrity checker.
> Using something like that greatly helps in detecting and identifying issues 
> such as this.

I use samhain.  However, since a compromised system can't reliably check
for an intrusion, I use it as a check agains JFS.  Since JFS doesn't
journal data (just meta-data), it is possible that after a power
failure, a file may be missing.  Samhain would detect this.

For security, you should have the samhain on a live-CD or something with
the checksums stored on a CD or USB stick.

Doug.


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Re: dumb question about Adobe Acrobat....

2007-07-29 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Sun, Jul 29, 2007 at 12:32:18PM -0700, Alan Ianson wrote:
 > 
> > The next version of Evince, due this fall, will also support form filling.
> 
> That is such good news.. exactly what I have been hoping to read.. I've
> been looking for a way to fill in pdf forms for an amd64 box I have
> here.
> 

I have been under the impression that evince and kpdf use xpdf behind
the scenes.  Does this mean that xpdf will be able to do this too, or
are evince (and perhaps kpdf) more functional than xpdf?

Doug.


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Re: utf8 Problems

2007-07-29 Thread Kelly Clowers
On 7/28/07, Bernhard Kuemel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi debian-user!
>
> I converted to utf8 in the hope that my non ASCII character problems
> would disappear. They are now ... different.
>
> I used utf8migrationtool and locale now says:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ locale
> LANG=en_US.UTF-8



> I wanted to print a German text containing umlauts from a web page.
> I marked it in iceweasel and pasted it into a 'konsole' running bash
> running 'cat >x'. 'lpr x' printed only a page with the character 'K'.
>
> 'hexdump -C x' says:
>
> 0010  20 20 20 20 20 20 4b fc  6e 64 69 67 75 6e 67 73  |
> K.ndigungs|
> 0020  62 65 73 63 68 72 e4 6e  6b 75 6e 67 65 6e 0a 0a
> |beschr.nkungen..|
>
> so ü is 0xfc, ä is 0xf4, and the characters are printed as
> periods '.'.
>
> mc's viewer says:
>
> 0010 20 20 20 20  20 20 4B FC  6E 64 69 67  75 6E 67 73
> Kündigungs
> 0020 62 65 73 63  68 72 E4 6E  6B 75 6E 67  65 6E 0A 0A
> beschränkungen..
>
> Here ü is still only the single byte 0xFC, but it gets printed
> as 'A' with a tilde and a '1/4' character. ä is again 0xE4 but
> printed as 'A' with a tilde and a circle with 4 short lines
> extending from the circle diagonally.
>
> Opening x in openoffice writer shows rhombuses with question marks
> for each umlaut.
>
> Opening x.html in openoffice writer I was unable to remove all the
> table etc. stuff and so was unable to reformat the text so it would
> fit on one page. Hmm, it might work, if I copied the text from there
> into a new document. But here I want to solve the locale problems,
> or what should I call the problem?

I think this has to do with the use of HTML entities (ä)
instead of actual UTF-8 characters. An additional possible issue
is that the web page may not be UTF-8.

When I want to fix up an html page before printing it, I use a
WYSIWYG html editor (I use vim when writing my own html).
SeaMonkey Composer / Nvu / KompoZer (which are basically
all the same program in different forms) have worked well for
me.

> mc (midnight commander, a norton commander clone) of course goes
> crazy again, but I was not surprised and accepted that it prints 'a'
> with '^' instead of line art, etc. More serious was that when I
> 'ssh'ed to a different computer (not sure which) it got confused
> about which line it was on and I messed up editing /etc/fstab.
>
> man gets quote characters wrong, printing 'a' with '^' instead and
> so does gcc.
>
> I also have problems with kvirc. IIRC I can get it to display
> iso8859-1 correctly, but not utf8, and the smart utf8/iso8859-1 mode
> does not work. I chat with users who use iso8859-1 and utf8.

This sounds more like a real locale problem. Have you tried running
"dpkg-reconfigure locales"? That can fix some locale problems.


Cheers,
Kelly


Re: how to set network io priority for a process?

2007-07-29 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Sun, Jul 29, 2007 at 03:32:44PM -0400, Celejar wrote:
 
> I have issues similar to Doug's, and I have also wondered whether
> kernel based traffic shaping is what I need.  Since we both use
> shorewall, which has an interface to the kernel's shaping capabilities,
> I suppose we ought to read shorewall-doc/html/traffic_shaping.htm
> 

That's what I'm about to do.  I've only recently (within the past hour
or two) determined that traffic shaping is what I'm trying to do.

Ideally, I would just set ftp and rync to second priority and let
everything else be normal.

I'll keep the list posted.

Doug.


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Re: poll: use of kernel schedulers?

2007-07-29 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sun, Jul 29, 2007 at 08:18:57AM -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

> I am currently running Debian's:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ uname -a
> Linux debian 2.6.22-1-k7 #1 SMP PREEMPT Sun Jul 29 07:39:18 CDT 2007 i686 
  ^^^
Is this because of the -ck patch?

To answer your question, no, I generally use only stock Debian kernels.

Regards,
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Re: IM on a home debian network

2007-07-29 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sat, Jul 28, 2007 at 11:30:05PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:
 
> and leave this VC 1 open.  VC 2 is ssh'd to the box and either mutt or
>   $watch -n 20 "from -c"
> 
> VC 3 is for net-related curses stuff (currently a wget session).
> VC 4 is where I type startx when I need to.
> 
> There was a time when I had Ctrl-Alt-UP set in inittab to open a new vt.

Never heard of 'screen'?

Regards,
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Re: curses-interface ftp client with resume?

2007-07-29 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sat, Jul 28, 2007 at 09:44:28PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:
> I'm on dialup and often access the internet via a slow computer by
> sshing into my fast computer (which has the modem).
> 
> Right now, if I want to download something like an iso file via ftp
> (there being no rsync mirror available), I put the url in a file, e.g.

No torrents either?

> 1.After so many interruptions, often there has been an error creep
> in and the md5sum doesn't match.  Without rsync, I don't know how to fix
> a file that is the correct lenght but doesn't match.

torrent solves this ...

> 3.It would be nice to have a curses interface like mc that lets me
> browse to the correct file, then tag the file for downloading which puts
> it into the above queue.

AFAIK mc can do ftp. I didn't use it much, but it might do most of what 
you need.

Regards,
Andrei
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Re: /bin/login listening?

2007-07-29 Thread Jeff D

On Sun, 29 Jul 2007, Tyler Smith wrote:


On 2007-07-29, Mathias Brodala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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Hi Douglas.

Douglas Allan Tutty, 29.07.2007 18:35:

Boot the box from something like the install CD, go to a shell, mount
your / partition ro, noexec.
=20
I think the install CD has md5sum installed.  Run:
#md5sum /bin/login.
=20
On my i386, I get:
=20
2ee32ff74e474c4d9fc9df6f1460980f /bin/login


You should also tell the exact version of the "login" package you are usi=
ng.
Otherwise this number is useless.

With 1:4.0.18.1-11 on i386 I get this:


004a41bb9196f1888bd89c2245910f46  /bin/login




Which is just what I got too. I found an old Mepis CD, booted into
that, mounted my / partition, ran md5sum on /bin/login, and out came
the same answer, for the same version of /bin/login.

So I'm going to proceed as if I've been lucky, have not been
rootkit-ed, and will continue on with hardening my laptop without
reinstalling.

Thanks for your help!

Tyler



On that note, one thing that you might want to consider as part of the 
hardening process is to install aide or some other file integrity checker.
Using something like that greatly helps in detecting and identifying issues 
such as this.



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Re: how to set network io priority for a process?

2007-07-29 Thread Celejar
On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 15:28:17 -0400
"Andrew J. Barr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On 7/29/07, Douglas Allan Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I'm on slow dialup.  Downloads of iso's take days. Yet, I still want to
> > be able to browse the internet.
> >
> > I would like to set up something like trickle that will run something
> > but limit its bandwidth so that it lower's its priority.
> 
> I think the QoS or traffic shaping features of the kernel may be able
> to do what you want.

I have issues similar to Doug's, and I have also wondered whether
kernel based traffic shaping is what I need.  Since we both use
shorewall, which has an interface to the kernel's shaping capabilities,
I suppose we ought to read shorewall-doc/html/traffic_shaping.htm

> Andrew Barr

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Re: dumb question about Adobe Acrobat....

2007-07-29 Thread Alan Ianson
On Sun, 2007-29-07 at 12:20 -0700, Kelly Clowers wrote:
> On 7/29/07, Brad Rogers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 20:20:59 +0200
> > Florian Kulzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Hello Florian,
> >
> > > pdftk can be used to fill in PDF forms. It can generate an FDF file
> >
> > Yet another package I've not heard of.  Hardly surprising, really,
> > given that there seem to be dozens of ways of achieving one's goals
> > with *nix OSs.  Which is a good thing, of course.
> >
> > > Unfortunately I am not sure if this works with all versions of PDF
> > > forms or only with older ones.
> >
> > PDF, like many formats, is an ever moving goalpost.  Consequently,
> > we're playing "catch-up" all the time.
> 
> The next version of Evince, due this fall, will also support form filling.

That is such good news.. exactly what I have been hoping to read.. I've
been looking for a way to fill in pdf forms for an amd64 box I have
here.

You made my day.. :)


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Re: how to set network io priority for a process?

2007-07-29 Thread Andrew J. Barr
On 7/29/07, Douglas Allan Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm on slow dialup.  Downloads of iso's take days. Yet, I still want to
> be able to browse the internet.
>
> I would like to set up something like trickle that will run something
> but limit its bandwidth so that it lower's its priority.

I think the QoS or traffic shaping features of the kernel may be able
to do what you want.

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Re: dumb question about Adobe Acrobat....

2007-07-29 Thread Kelly Clowers
On 7/29/07, Brad Rogers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 20:20:59 +0200
> Florian Kulzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hello Florian,
>
> > pdftk can be used to fill in PDF forms. It can generate an FDF file
>
> Yet another package I've not heard of.  Hardly surprising, really,
> given that there seem to be dozens of ways of achieving one's goals
> with *nix OSs.  Which is a good thing, of course.
>
> > Unfortunately I am not sure if this works with all versions of PDF
> > forms or only with older ones.
>
> PDF, like many formats, is an ever moving goalpost.  Consequently,
> we're playing "catch-up" all the time.

The next version of Evince, due this fall, will also support form filling.


Cheers,
Kelly


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Re: dumb question about Adobe Acrobat....

2007-07-29 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 20:20:59 +0200
Florian Kulzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hello Florian,

> pdftk can be used to fill in PDF forms. It can generate an FDF file

Yet another package I've not heard of.  Hardly surprising, really,
given that there seem to be dozens of ways of achieving one's goals
with *nix OSs.  Which is a good thing, of course.

> Unfortunately I am not sure if this works with all versions of PDF
> forms or only with older ones.
 
PDF, like many formats, is an ever moving goalpost.  Consequently,
we're playing "catch-up" all the time.

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Re: /bin/login listening?

2007-07-29 Thread Tyler Smith
On 2007-07-29, Mathias Brodala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Hi Douglas.
>
> Douglas Allan Tutty, 29.07.2007 18:35:
>> Boot the box from something like the install CD, go to a shell, mount
>> your / partition ro, noexec.
>>=20
>> I think the install CD has md5sum installed.  Run:
>>  #md5sum /bin/login.
>>=20
>> On my i386, I get:
>>=20
>> 2ee32ff74e474c4d9fc9df6f1460980f /bin/login
>
> You should also tell the exact version of the "login" package you are usi=
> ng.
> Otherwise this number is useless.
>
> With 1:4.0.18.1-11 on i386 I get this:
>
>> 004a41bb9196f1888bd89c2245910f46  /bin/login
>

Which is just what I got too. I found an old Mepis CD, booted into
that, mounted my / partition, ran md5sum on /bin/login, and out came
the same answer, for the same version of /bin/login.

So I'm going to proceed as if I've been lucky, have not been
rootkit-ed, and will continue on with hardening my laptop without
reinstalling.

Thanks for your help!

Tyler


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Re: bindgraph

2007-07-29 Thread Gilles Mocellin
Le Saturday 28 July 2007 08:49:50 koffiejunkie, vous avez écrit :
> Gilles Mocellin wrote:
> > Strange !
> > I just installed it today, and I found what is the problem.
> > It is not compatible with rrdtool 1.2.
> > I found it trying to display directly the image (look in the HTMl
> > source). RRD says it doesn't understand the data format...
> >
> > I backported the testing/unstable version 0.2a.
> > I saw this bug in BTS which was corrected.
>
> Hi Gilles,
>
> Thanks for this.  I looked at the code for a long time, but it's greek
> to me - my perl is limited to "hello" world...
>
> I'm just on the way out for the weekend, will look into this again
> tomorrow night.  As far as I remember I don't even get the images
> generated (that is triggered by the .cgi, isn't it?).
>
> # ./bindgraph.cgi
> Use of uninitialized value in substitution (s///) at
> /usr/share/perl/5.8/File/Basename.pm line 338.
> fileparse(): need a valid pathname at ./bindgraph.cgi line 181
>
> When I strace it, I get this snipped some of the "file not found" lines:
>
> stat64("/usr/lib/perl/5.8/re.pm", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=1340,
> ...}) = 0
> open("/usr/lib/perl/5.8/re.pm", O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = 5
> ioctl(5, SNDCTL_TMR_TIMEBASE or TCGETS, 0xbfffec48) = -1 ENOTTY
> (Inappropriate ioctl for device)
> _llseek(5, 0, [0], SEEK_CUR)= 0
> read(5, "package re;\n\nour $VERSION = 0.05"..., 4096) = 1340
> read(5, "", 4096)   = 0
> close(5)= 0
> read(4, "[:>\\]])?(.*)/s);\n$dirpath ||"..., 4096) = 4096
> brk(0x8235000)  = 0x8235000
> read(4, ".\'.  fileparse() would return \'f"..., 4096) = 3069
> read(4, "", 4096)   = 0
> close(4)= 0
> read(3, "t_date {\n\tmy ($when) = @_;\n\n\tmy "..., 4096) = 2195
> read(3, "", 4096)   = 0
> close(3)= 0
> uname({sys="Linux", node="rimwards", ...}) = 0
> write(2, "Use of uninitialized value in su"..., 100Use of uninitialized
> value in substitution (s///) at /usr/share/perl/5.8/File/Basename.pm
> line 338.
> ) = 100
> [snip]
> stat64("/usr/share/perl/5.8/Carp/Heavy.pm", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644,
> st_size=5747, ...}) = 0
> open("/usr/share/perl/5.8/Carp/Heavy.pm", O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = 3
> ioctl(3, SNDCTL_TMR_TIMEBASE or TCGETS, 0xb598) = -1 ENOTTY
> (Inappropriate ioctl for device)
> _llseek(3, 0, [0], SEEK_CUR)= 0
> read(3, "# Carp::Heavy uses some variable"..., 4096) = 4096
> brk(0x8256000)  = 0x8256000
> read(3, "s($called, $caller, $cache);\n   "..., 4096) = 1651
> read(3, "", 4096)   = 0
> close(3)= 0
> write(2, "fileparse(): need a valid pathna"..., 63fileparse(): need a
> valid pathname at ./bindgraph.cgi line 181
> ) = 63
> exit_group(255) = ?
> Process 28639 detached
>
>
> Is this what you got too?

No, but I didn't try to execute the cgi on the command line.
I got RRD errors. The rrd command that generates images did not work for a 
formatting reason.
The error was well known to me, since I had several time problems with 
mailgraph / amavis-stats which are tools very similar to bindgraph.

Just try the newer version, no need to backport it since it's just a perl 
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Re: dumb question about Adobe Acrobat....

2007-07-29 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 23:39:18 +0100, Brad Rogers wrote:

[...]

> IIRC, Xpdf doesn't have the ability to do form filling.  With acroread,
> you can fill out forms (they have to be set up to allow it, of course),
> and then print them, already filled in.  Obviously, you can't save the
> filled out form.

pdftk can be used to fill in PDF forms. It can generate an FDF file from
the form fields of a PDF. You can edit the data in the FDF file with an
ASCII editor and then use pdftk again to produce a "filled-in" PDF from
the edited FDF and the original PDF file. You can furthermore "flatten"
this new PDF file so that other people cannot change your data anymore
if you send them this file. However, if someone wants you to submit the
form electronically then it is important to send the file non-flattened
because the other party will probably want to extract the data directly
from the file.

Unfortunately I am not sure if this works with all versions of PDF forms
or only with older ones.

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Re: how to set network io priority for a process?

2007-07-29 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Sun, Jul 29, 2007 at 06:14:46PM -, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Jul 29, 11:10 am, Douglas Allan Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I'm on slow dialup.  Downloads of iso's take days. Yet, I still want to
> > be able to browse the internet.
> >
> > I would like to set up something like trickle that will run something
> > but limit its bandwidth so that it lower's its priority.
> [...]
> > What I want is something like ionice but for network bandwidth.
> 
> I'm not sure if that's workable, but if you have your own home
> network,
> you might look into setting up your own squid cache.  Squid is a web
> proxy that maintains it's own cache of items people on your network
> have already visited.  If you use offline mode, you may have to force
> a refresh on sites you know have new content (shift-refresh in most
> browsers), but items you've already downloaded for viewing before
> will load much more quickly on subsequent visits.
> 

I already have polipo cache set up and working.  

Perhaps this is something else I'll have to write from scratch.  I'll
have to see how, at any given time, one sees what is using the
bandwidth.

Thanks,

Doug.


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Re: essential services? ssh, nfs?

2007-07-29 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Sun, Jul 29, 2007 at 05:52:12PM +, Tyler Smith wrote:
 
> Now that I have nothing listening to the outside world, do I still
> need a firewall? I have been using firestarter, but not consistently. 
> 

I look at a firewall as icing on the cake.  If you reject and log local
to net, anything trying to go out that you haven't configured gives you
something to trace.  For example, I recently put etch onto my 486 and
installed ntp.  Between the time I installed it and when I configured it
to look to my main box, it came configured to try to access the debian
ntp pool.  Those packets were rejected but I go an email from my main
box warning me about it.

Doug.


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Re: essential services? ssh, nfs?

2007-07-29 Thread Tyler Smith
On 2007-07-29, Jeff D <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> the general rule of thumb, is if you dont use it, turn it off.  I'd turn 
> off almost every thing.  You can leave exim and famd on.
> to turn auth off, you can edit /etc/inetd.conf and comment out the line 
> that starts with ident.
>
> for portmap:
> update-rc.d -f portmap remove
> for rpc.statd:
> update-rc.d -f rpc.statd remove
> ssh:
> update-rc.d -f ssh remove
>
> to bind apache to the localhost, in /etc/apache2/ports.conf change the 
> Listen 80 to Listen 127.0.0.1:80, then restart apache.
>
>

Thanks Jeff, Doug, and everyone!

I purged the ssh-server, and followed Jeff's advice to remove
everything else. On rebooting now I have:

root:tyler# netstat -tap | grep LISTEN
 localhost:www   *:* LISTEN 4371/apache 
 localhost:smtp  *:* LISTEN 3331/exim4  

I don't know what happened to famd, but it's gone now. I did have to
change my bookmarks for doc-central from blackbart.mynetwork/dc to
localhost/dc, and that's working. The actual change in the apache conf
was in the file /etc/apache/httpd.conf. Other than that there were no
surprises. 

Now that I have nothing listening to the outside world, do I still
need a firewall? I have been using firestarter, but not consistently. 

Cheers,

Tyler


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how to set network io priority for a process?

2007-07-29 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
I'm on slow dialup.  Downloads of iso's take days. Yet, I still want to
be able to browse the internet.

I would like to set up something like trickle that will run something
but limit its bandwidth so that it lower's its priority.

For example, wget and rsync allow one to limit the bandwidth to a set
rate.  However, if nothing else wants the connection, this wastes
available bandwidth.  Conversely, if I try to view a big web site, it
would like the wget or rsync to get out of the way while I'm doing it.

Trickle allows one to set a rate for programs that don't give the
option.  ionice does something similar for disk io.

What I want is something like ionice but for network bandwidth.

Any suggestions?

Thanks,

Doug.


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Re: searching for graphical torrent client

2007-07-29 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Fri, Jul 27, 2007 at 01:07:17PM +0300, Giorgos D. Pallas wrote:
> I tried google but can't seem to find something that both looks decent
> *and* is available for debian (testing) as a binary. For example I tried
> qtorrent, but it is so minimal that I don't like it... Or to put it in
> another way: Which client resembles most the windows utorrent? (I also
> tried ktorrent for KDE and it crashes often...)

ktorrent crashed on me only when using DHT.

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Re: essential services? ssh, nfs?

2007-07-29 Thread mouss

Tyler Smith wrote:

Hi,

I'm working through the security quick start how to, and I'm not clear
on what services are required and which ones I can safely remove. I'm
running a single laptop, which I connect to the net via wireless at
home or at cafes, and via an ethernet cable at work. 


1) I never login remotely, so I think I can safely do away with
openssh-server? 

tcp6*:ssh   *:*   LISTEN 3026/sshd   


2) The how-to suggests that for my setup I don't need anything to do
with NFS - netstat reports rpc.statd and portmap as listening. Can I
just purge nfs-common and portmap?

tcp *:37381 *:*   LISTEN 2603/rpc.statd  
tcp *:sunrpc*:*   LISTEN 2578/portmap



3) I have apache installed as a dependency of doc-central. netstat
shows it to be listening to all interfaces. Is there a way to set it
to listen only for local connections? I don't understand this very
well, but it seems I shouldn't need to listen to anyone from the
outside to connect to my docs.

tcp *:www   *:*   LISTEN 3826/apache 

  


you need to edit apache config file. look for "Listen" and replace the 
wildcard IP by 127.0.0.1. I personally avoid changing config files that 
come with packages. so here, just use an iptables rule to block incoming 
traffic unless you want it.



4) The only remaining listeners I have are:

tcp localhost:929   *:*   LISTEN 3721/famd   
tcp *:auth  *:*   LISTEN 3661/inetd  
tcp localhost:smtp  *:*   LISTEN 3385/exim4  


What is auth?


This is the (obsolete?) ident service. you can disable it (after all, 
windows people don't have it and they have no problem surfing...).


If you use a firewall, make sure to reject packets coming in to this 
port, instead of a DROP. Otherwise, services that use ident will be slow 
at connection time.



 Since famd and exim4 are only listening to localhost,
can I conclude they are not a security risk?
  


In general, it's ok, but you still need to keep your eyes open:

- make sure incoming traffic to localhost is blocked (just drop). 127.* 
should not appear on the wire. This really belongs to the IP stack, but 
as I am not sure it is filtered there, stay safe and add an explicit rule.


- make sure you have no NAT rule that redirects incoming traffic to 
localhost.





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Re: essential services? ssh, nfs?

2007-07-29 Thread Jeff D

On Sun, 29 Jul 2007, Tyler Smith wrote:


Hi,

I'm working through the security quick start how to, and I'm not clear
on what services are required and which ones I can safely remove. I'm
running a single laptop, which I connect to the net via wireless at
home or at cafes, and via an ethernet cable at work.

1) I never login remotely, so I think I can safely do away with
openssh-server?

tcp6*:ssh   *:*   LISTEN 3026/sshd

2) The how-to suggests that for my setup I don't need anything to do
with NFS - netstat reports rpc.statd and portmap as listening. Can I
just purge nfs-common and portmap?

tcp *:37381 *:*   LISTEN 2603/rpc.statd
tcp *:sunrpc*:*   LISTEN 2578/portmap


3) I have apache installed as a dependency of doc-central. netstat
shows it to be listening to all interfaces. Is there a way to set it
to listen only for local connections? I don't understand this very
well, but it seems I shouldn't need to listen to anyone from the
outside to connect to my docs.

tcp *:www   *:*   LISTEN 3826/apache

4) The only remaining listeners I have are:

tcp localhost:929   *:*   LISTEN 3721/famd
tcp *:auth  *:*   LISTEN 3661/inetd
tcp localhost:smtp  *:*   LISTEN 3385/exim4

What is auth? Since famd and exim4 are only listening to localhost,
can I conclude they are not a security risk?

Thanks for your help,

Tyler


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erf, it's too early, not enough coffee yet, but you might want to add this 
one to the list too:

update-rc.d -f nfs-common remove


You can also just remove the packages that control these though.  But, 
personally I like to keep them around, just incase I need to turn them 
back on at some point.  It's come in handy for me a few time to have the 
services available


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Re: essential services? ssh, nfs?

2007-07-29 Thread Jeff D

On Sun, 29 Jul 2007, Tyler Smith wrote:


Hi,

I'm working through the security quick start how to, and I'm not clear
on what services are required and which ones I can safely remove. I'm
running a single laptop, which I connect to the net via wireless at
home or at cafes, and via an ethernet cable at work.

1) I never login remotely, so I think I can safely do away with
openssh-server?

tcp6*:ssh   *:*   LISTEN 3026/sshd

2) The how-to suggests that for my setup I don't need anything to do
with NFS - netstat reports rpc.statd and portmap as listening. Can I
just purge nfs-common and portmap?

tcp *:37381 *:*   LISTEN 2603/rpc.statd
tcp *:sunrpc*:*   LISTEN 2578/portmap


3) I have apache installed as a dependency of doc-central. netstat
shows it to be listening to all interfaces. Is there a way to set it
to listen only for local connections? I don't understand this very
well, but it seems I shouldn't need to listen to anyone from the
outside to connect to my docs.

tcp *:www   *:*   LISTEN 3826/apache

4) The only remaining listeners I have are:

tcp localhost:929   *:*   LISTEN 3721/famd
tcp *:auth  *:*   LISTEN 3661/inetd
tcp localhost:smtp  *:*   LISTEN 3385/exim4

What is auth? Since famd and exim4 are only listening to localhost,
can I conclude they are not a security risk?

Thanks for your help,

Tyler


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off almost every thing.  You can leave exim and famd on.
to turn auth off, you can edit /etc/inetd.conf and comment out the line 
that starts with ident.


for portmap:
update-rc.d -f portmap remove
for rpc.statd:
update-rc.d -f rpc.statd remove
ssh:
update-rc.d -f ssh remove

to bind apache to the localhost, in /etc/apache2/ports.conf change the 
Listen 80 to Listen 127.0.0.1:80, then restart apache.



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Re: dumb question about aAdobe Acrobat....

2007-07-29 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 21:12:31 -0400
Douglas Allan Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hello Douglas,

> Sounds like a crazy propriatary scheme.  Whatever happened to sending

Quite probably.  

> out the Latex of a document.  Recipients can latex it to view it, make
> changes, get it right, then email the latex back.

Because most people are completely unaware of TeX for generating
documents.

> As for printing but not saving an altered pdf, can't you print to file
> (or get your print spooler to do it) so that you have a ps of the pdf?

I've not tried, TBH.  The odd PDF that I've come across that allowed
data entry wasn't the sort of thing I needed to keep a copy of.  I
might play around and see what I can do.

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Re: /bin/login listening?

2007-07-29 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Sun, Jul 29, 2007 at 06:40:05PM +0200, Mathias Brodala wrote:
 
> You should also tell the exact version of the "login" package you are using.
> Otherwise this number is useless.

Sorry.  Stock, up-to-date Etch.  Aptitude shows it as version
1:4.0.18.1-7.

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Re: essential services? ssh, nfs?

2007-07-29 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Sun, Jul 29, 2007 at 04:11:55PM +, Tyler Smith wrote:
> 
> I'm working through the security quick start how to, and I'm not clear
> on what services are required and which ones I can safely remove. I'm
> running a single laptop, which I connect to the net via wireless at
> home or at cafes, and via an ethernet cable at work. 
> 
> 1) I never login remotely, so I think I can safely do away with
> openssh-server? 

If you don't need it, and a package isn't there to meet a dependancy,
get rid of it.

> 
> tcp6*:ssh   *:*   LISTEN 3026/sshd   
> 
> 2) The how-to suggests that for my setup I don't need anything to do
> with NFS - netstat reports rpc.statd and portmap as listening. Can I
> just purge nfs-common and portmap?
> 
> tcp *:37381 *:*   LISTEN 2603/rpc.statd  
> tcp *:sunrpc*:*   LISTEN 2578/portmap
> 

Ditto.


> 3) I have apache installed as a dependency of doc-central. netstat
> shows it to be listening to all interfaces. Is there a way to set it
> to listen only for local connections? I don't understand this very
> well, but it seems I shouldn't need to listen to anyone from the
> outside to connect to my docs.
> 
> tcp *:www   *:*   LISTEN 3826/apache 
> 

I've never run apache so don't know.

> 4) The only remaining listeners I have are:
> 
> tcp localhost:929   *:*   LISTEN 3721/famd   
> tcp *:auth  *:*   LISTEN 3661/inetd  
> tcp localhost:smtp  *:*   LISTEN 3385/exim4  
> 
> What is auth? Since famd and exim4 are only listening to localhost,
> can I conclude they are not a security risk?
> 

What do you have uncommented in /etc/inetd.conf?  I don't have anything,
so inetd doesn't start up at boot.

Finally,  as the last defence, do you have a good firewall setup?  I use
shorewall with a default net to all DROP and everything else REJECT,
then open ports as needed in rules.

Doug.


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Re: IM on a home debian network

2007-07-29 Thread John Hasler
Ron Johnson wrote:
> What ever happened to diald?

It was obsoleted by the demand-dial feature of pppd which can be configured
with pppconfig.

Doug writes:
> Its an external Courier.  I meant push the button to turn it on.

Why do you turn it off?
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Re: /bin/login listening?

2007-07-29 Thread Mathias Brodala
Hi Douglas.

Douglas Allan Tutty, 29.07.2007 18:35:
> Boot the box from something like the install CD, go to a shell, mount
> your / partition ro, noexec.
> 
> I think the install CD has md5sum installed.  Run:
>   #md5sum /bin/login.
> 
> On my i386, I get:
> 
> 2ee32ff74e474c4d9fc9df6f1460980f /bin/login

You should also tell the exact version of the "login" package you are using.
Otherwise this number is useless.

With 1:4.0.18.1-11 on i386 I get this:

> 004a41bb9196f1888bd89c2245910f46  /bin/login


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essential services? ssh, nfs?

2007-07-29 Thread Tyler Smith
Hi,

I'm working through the security quick start how to, and I'm not clear
on what services are required and which ones I can safely remove. I'm
running a single laptop, which I connect to the net via wireless at
home or at cafes, and via an ethernet cable at work. 

1) I never login remotely, so I think I can safely do away with
openssh-server? 

tcp6*:ssh   *:*   LISTEN 3026/sshd   

2) The how-to suggests that for my setup I don't need anything to do
with NFS - netstat reports rpc.statd and portmap as listening. Can I
just purge nfs-common and portmap?

tcp *:37381 *:*   LISTEN 2603/rpc.statd  
tcp *:sunrpc*:*   LISTEN 2578/portmap


3) I have apache installed as a dependency of doc-central. netstat
shows it to be listening to all interfaces. Is there a way to set it
to listen only for local connections? I don't understand this very
well, but it seems I shouldn't need to listen to anyone from the
outside to connect to my docs.

tcp *:www   *:*   LISTEN 3826/apache 

4) The only remaining listeners I have are:

tcp localhost:929   *:*   LISTEN 3721/famd   
tcp *:auth  *:*   LISTEN 3661/inetd  
tcp localhost:smtp  *:*   LISTEN 3385/exim4  

What is auth? Since famd and exim4 are only listening to localhost,
can I conclude they are not a security risk?

Thanks for your help,

Tyler


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Re: /bin/login listening?

2007-07-29 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Sun, Jul 29, 2007 at 03:56:08PM +, Tyler Smith wrote:
 
> So if I'm compromised nothing is safe, and the only guaranteed way to
> clear this up is to format my harddrive and reinstall. Given that the
> only evidence of a problem is a warning about /bin/login listening
> from rkhunter, which happened only once, and I have had no other
> problems with my net connection or general performance of my laptop,
> let alone mysterious withdrawals from my bank account or other signs
> of stolen passwords, what should I be doing? 
> 
> >From the advice received and what I'm reading, I'm getting two very
> different messages - I must reinstall to be 100% certain that I'm
> safe, and while I can't be 100% certain I'm safe it's pretty unlikely
> that I have a real problem.
> 
> What would you do in my situation?
> 

Try this:

Boot the box from something like the install CD, go to a shell, mount
your / partition ro, noexec.

I think the install CD has md5sum installed.  Run:
#md5sum /bin/login.

On my i386, I get:

2ee32ff74e474c4d9fc9df6f1460980f /bin/login

If /bin/login is fine, then I'd forget about it.
If it differs, I'd wipe the drive and reinstall; from backups before
your first indication of a problem.  Then examine the difference between
that backup's data and your most recent backup.

Actually, to put your mind at ease, I've attached a file bin-MD5SUMS
which is the output of:

$md5sum /bin/* > bin-MD5SUMS

Put this onto a floppy and mount it when you boot your install CD.  Then
edit it so that, for example the /bin/login reads /mnt/bin/login.

You can then verify the whole /bin with
#md5sum -c bin-MD5SUMS

Here's the file, and good luck.

Doug.

be2bfd8feb6bfb826593c087817be9d5  /bin/arch
72e1a7bbf8478e3dd08693bec6f4c50e  /bin/bash
01fcfa4919953518bbbc97b2637a27ad  /bin/bunzip2
a60f3c2c4dcedeec5b0e6cce4fd777c8  /bin/busybox
01fcfa4919953518bbbc97b2637a27ad  /bin/bzcat
dfaba3a92070a1881dd8ec64a26069a4  /bin/bzcmp
dfaba3a92070a1881dd8ec64a26069a4  /bin/bzdiff
2b11565d85da178b3a1942a22d20c624  /bin/bzegrep
ea97408418bc4c3a77c0048003198acc  /bin/bzexe
2b11565d85da178b3a1942a22d20c624  /bin/bzfgrep
2b11565d85da178b3a1942a22d20c624  /bin/bzgrep
01fcfa4919953518bbbc97b2637a27ad  /bin/bzip2
d231db40e391032509c4c4782653cb6e  /bin/bzip2recover
e243255b6cf3b9403df53cb9cd6176e1  /bin/bzless
e243255b6cf3b9403df53cb9cd6176e1  /bin/bzmore
c12e12da393d90fba841aa678aef5094  /bin/cat
117baf5142bb451a8a0c501cdbf43726  /bin/chgrp
aa1ab822de26dd9d455c8ac9163ba30e  /bin/chmod
b28ba00d8345041e4955ed970ed174ee  /bin/chown
a096cd237ee340b66f84a7867a2da2a7  /bin/cp
901cc68b293e3249a681ab4f396d1cd4  /bin/cpio
a9a89a3beefb30729ea4ae80d6335cb6  /bin/csh
2af9162bd0c10ecd3b77983a56d79f6c  /bin/date
02aec16981ffee391d957a28cd1190af  /bin/dd
53f20746bb14718e54a65b86510bcb82  /bin/df
1c4d91adb9b1fa383247d0334a389975  /bin/dir
5c54d6f8b6af629e4be985f52c21adb6  /bin/dmesg
638cead25982bc413a287e30a6b3fea4  /bin/dnsdomainname
177e77531159a20fbcf741136c02ce05  /bin/echo
73a8a6f1948231171a6586aef43f26a6  /bin/ed
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aca6202f58b4e514ac9c0501505c2076  /bin/kernelversion
083ec3e06bc9de75e00fcb6d6292b378  /bin/kill
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68de2870b06443403332c81022010a24  /bin/rnano
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d9be68996d0b87faeb83d1ad8951a481  /bin/sash
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Re: /bin/login listening?

2007-07-29 Thread Tyler Smith
On 2007-07-29, Celejar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>> That's what I was thinking. But is there any way a rootkit could
>> interfere with my downloading and compiling from source? I was hoping
>> that doing things 'by hand' would limit the possibilities for
>> compromising the result.
>
> In theory, certainly.  Your downloading agent is probably invoking
> system libraries, which may be compromised and substituting bad
> source.  The system may not even be running your download agent at
> all!  Or it may subsequently lie to you and assure you that it's
> running the downloaded app when it really isn't.  Whether all this is
> at all plausible is a different question.
>

So if I'm compromised nothing is safe, and the only guaranteed way to
clear this up is to format my harddrive and reinstall. Given that the
only evidence of a problem is a warning about /bin/login listening
from rkhunter, which happened only once, and I have had no other
problems with my net connection or general performance of my laptop,
let alone mysterious withdrawals from my bank account or other signs
of stolen passwords, what should I be doing? 

>From the advice received and what I'm reading, I'm getting two very
different messages - I must reinstall to be 100% certain that I'm
safe, and while I can't be 100% certain I'm safe it's pretty unlikely
that I have a real problem.

What would you do in my situation?

Thanks,

Tyler


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Re: Disable gnome-power-manager?

2007-07-29 Thread Alan Ianson
On Sun July 29 2007 06:25, Stefan Monnier wrote:
> Am I the only one who finds the gnome-power-manager to be
> fundamentally flawed?  A power daemon needs intrinsically to be
> system-global and not specific to a particular login session.
> This becomes obvious when there are several logins active at the same time
> (on different virtual consoles), typically with different users.
>
> Now, recent versions of the gnome-desktop-environment depend on
> gnome-power-management, so it makes it inconvenient to deinstall the
> gnome-power-management package.  Is there a way to keep it installed but to
> deactivate it?

When I install gnome I don't install gnome-desktop-environment. I enter that 
in aptitude and pick the items I want from there. gnome-power-management is 
recommended by gnome-screen-saver so when I install that I temporarily 
disable aptitude from automatically installing recommended packages.

Maybe the long way around but it gets me where I want to be.. :)


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Re: /bin/login listening?

2007-07-29 Thread John Hasler
> That's what I was thinking. But is there any way a rootkit could
> interfere with my downloading and compiling from source?

Of course.  They could have trojaned any of the tools you would use.  _No_
software on a rooted box can be trusted.  Including the shell.
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Re: How Debian BTS and its tools can be improved (user poll).

2007-07-29 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Thu, Jul 26, 2007 at 10:49:29AM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 26, 2007 at 03:34:58PM +, Oleg Verych wrote:
> > What, on your opinion, can be done better in Debian BTS, reportbug?
> 
> 1)I agree with kamaraju (sp?) that submitter should be automatically
> subscribed to the bug, or even better, given the option to subscribe
> from within reportbug at submittal time. 

Or making the subscription as easy as replying to the ACK mail (without 
and additional ACK, as the reply already verifies that I'm not a 
computer).

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Re: /bin/login listening?

2007-07-29 Thread Celejar
On 29 Jul 2007 13:47:30 GMT
Tyler Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On 2007-07-29, Douglas Allan Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Sun, Jul 29, 2007 at 12:48:16PM +, Tyler Smith wrote:
> >> On 2007-07-29, Jeff D <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >  
> >> I ran rkhunter again, and then for good measure I aptitude --purged
> >> it, reinstalled, and ran again. And then I thought maybe the whole
> >> thing was compromised, so I purged it again, installed rkhunter 1.30
> >> from sourceforge, and ran again. And I also ran chkrootkit. In all
> >> cases they showed nothing happening, except for warning me that some
> >> of my /bin executables had been replaced by scripts -- stuff like
> >> egrep, fgrep etc.
> >> 
> >> So perhaps it was just a false positive. I'm going to read up on
> >> security stuff now, so maybe I'll have some idea how to proceed the
> >> next time.
> >> 
> >
> > Its tricky.  If you have been rooted, you can't trust anything on the
> > system, including aptitude.  As for reading, try the package harden-doc.
> >
> 
> That's what I was thinking. But is there any way a rootkit could
> interfere with my downloading and compiling from source? I was hoping
> that doing things 'by hand' would limit the possibilities for
> compromising the result.

In theory, certainly.  Your downloading agent is probably invoking
system libraries, which may be compromised and substituting bad
source.  The system may not even be running your download agent at
all!  Or it may subsequently lie to you and assure you that it's
running the downloaded app when it really isn't.  Whether all this is
at all plausible is a different question.

> I will look at harden-doc. I'm working through the Linux how-to
> security quick start at the moment.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Tyler

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Re: /bin/login listening?

2007-07-29 Thread Tyler Smith
On 2007-07-29, Douglas Allan Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 29, 2007 at 12:48:16PM +, Tyler Smith wrote:
>> On 2007-07-29, Jeff D <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  
>> I ran rkhunter again, and then for good measure I aptitude --purged
>> it, reinstalled, and ran again. And then I thought maybe the whole
>> thing was compromised, so I purged it again, installed rkhunter 1.30
>> from sourceforge, and ran again. And I also ran chkrootkit. In all
>> cases they showed nothing happening, except for warning me that some
>> of my /bin executables had been replaced by scripts -- stuff like
>> egrep, fgrep etc.
>> 
>> So perhaps it was just a false positive. I'm going to read up on
>> security stuff now, so maybe I'll have some idea how to proceed the
>> next time.
>> 
>
> Its tricky.  If you have been rooted, you can't trust anything on the
> system, including aptitude.  As for reading, try the package harden-doc.
>

That's what I was thinking. But is there any way a rootkit could
interfere with my downloading and compiling from source? I was hoping
that doing things 'by hand' would limit the possibilities for
compromising the result.

I will look at harden-doc. I'm working through the Linux how-to
security quick start at the moment.

Thanks,

Tyler
 


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Re: Disable gnome-power-manager?

2007-07-29 Thread Mathias Brodala
Hi again.

Mathias Brodala, 29.07.2007 15:50:
> Hi Stefan.
> 
> Stefan Monnier, 29.07.2007 15:25:
>> Now, recent versions of the gnome-desktop-environment depend on
>> gnome-power-management, so it makes it inconvenient to deinstall the
>> gnome-power-management package.  Is there a way to keep it installed but to
>> deactivate it?
> 
> I don’t have it installed, but maybe
> /etc/dbus-1/system.d/gnome-power-manager.conf is of help.

Apparently, it is not. But README.Debian.gz is:

> GNOME Users: Starting GNOME Power Manager with your GNOME Session
> =
> 
> 1) Add yourself to the powerdev group; this group is created by hal
>>= 0.5.6+cvs20060219-1.
> 2) Open System -> Preferences -> Sessions
> 3) In the Startup Programs tab, click Add
> 4) Type "gnome-power-manager", click OK.
> 5) Log out of your gnome session, and log back in again.

You obviously can do the opposite to disable it.


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Re: Disable gnome-power-manager?

2007-07-29 Thread Mathias Brodala
Hi Stefan.

Stefan Monnier, 29.07.2007 15:25:
> Now, recent versions of the gnome-desktop-environment depend on
> gnome-power-management, so it makes it inconvenient to deinstall the
> gnome-power-management package.  Is there a way to keep it installed but to
> deactivate it?

I don’t have it installed, but maybe
/etc/dbus-1/system.d/gnome-power-manager.conf is of help. It suggest that
gnome-power-manager is launched through DBUS, so you should be able to disable
it that way.


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Disable gnome-power-manager?

2007-07-29 Thread Stefan Monnier
Am I the only one who finds the gnome-power-manager to be
fundamentally flawed?  A power daemon needs intrinsically to be
system-global and not specific to a particular login session.
This becomes obvious when there are several logins active at the same time
(on different virtual consoles), typically with different users.

Now, recent versions of the gnome-desktop-environment depend on
gnome-power-management, so it makes it inconvenient to deinstall the
gnome-power-management package.  Is there a way to keep it installed but to
deactivate it?


Stefan


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Re: dumb question about aAdobe Acrobat....

2007-07-29 Thread Michael Fothergill





From: Douglas Allan Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: dumb question about aAdobe Acrobat
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 21:12:31 -0400

On Sat, Jul 28, 2007 at 11:39:18PM +0100, Brad Rogers wrote:
> On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 15:57:11 -0500
> John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hello John,
>
> > Do you actually _need_ acroread?  Xpdf isn't good enough?
>
> IIRC, Xpdf doesn't have the ability to do form filling.  With acroread,
> you can fill out forms (they have to be set up to allow it, of course),
> and then print them, already filled in.  Obviously, you can't save the
> filled out form.
>
> With my cruddy handwriting, I need all the help I can get.   :-)

Sounds like a crazy propriatary scheme.  Whatever happened to sending
out the Latex of a document.  Recipients can latex it to view it, make
changes, get it right, then email the latex back.


Nevertheless it was chosen by the UK authorities as a method of filing 
accounts electronically.


As for printing but not saving an altered pdf, can't you print to file
(or get your print spooler to do it) so that you have a ps of the pdf?
Burst the ps pages apart, turn them into eps, encorporate them into your
latex document and away you go.


I am not interested in printing it.  Just editing it and submitting it and 
filing the accounts.

It may be that I could do it with an ordinary editor



Adobe just had to reinvent their own wheel, convince everyone else that
it was the only wheel around (so to speak) and make life difficult for
us.



Doug.


That may be in part true.  But there are a very large number of companies 
registered here and so a way of avoiding Adobe software is probably useful 
if I can figure it out and then point it out to others.


Even if it is a slightly funny work around.

Who knows, maybe I will discover some useful information in doing this that 
you can't find  already by searching the web after all


Or maybe not.

Regards

Michael Fothergill






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Re: lenny: getting non-free nvidia drivers issue

2007-07-29 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:

On Sun, Jul 29, 2007 at 06:19:47AM -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
 >

Yes I'm running amd64.  However, since I'm on slow dialup and the amd64
box is the only one with a CD burner and lots of drive space, it would
be a major headache to have something happen that caused stuff to not
work.  
But what could happen if you tried it on a duplicate partition? So it 
doesn't work. You go back to the working partition.




The box uses LVM so I can't give Lenny its own actual disk
partitions.  Also, downloading a whole new installation is non-trivial
at 28.8 Kb/s (sometimes 14.4, sometimes 9600).  I'm many miles from the
telephone exchange.  It took a few days to install an ia32 chroot with
just base, mc, lynx, and iceweasel.



True. I forgot: you stated before that you were using LVM. I am running 
on a dialup modem myself and the last Sid upgrade took 2.5 days.


Hugo


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Re: /bin/login listening?

2007-07-29 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Sun, Jul 29, 2007 at 12:48:16PM +, Tyler Smith wrote:
> On 2007-07-29, Jeff D <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 
> I ran rkhunter again, and then for good measure I aptitude --purged
> it, reinstalled, and ran again. And then I thought maybe the whole
> thing was compromised, so I purged it again, installed rkhunter 1.30
> from sourceforge, and ran again. And I also ran chkrootkit. In all
> cases they showed nothing happening, except for warning me that some
> of my /bin executables had been replaced by scripts -- stuff like
> egrep, fgrep etc.
> 
> So perhaps it was just a false positive. I'm going to read up on
> security stuff now, so maybe I'll have some idea how to proceed the
> next time.
> 

Its tricky.  If you have been rooted, you can't trust anything on the
system, including aptitude.  As for reading, try the package harden-doc.

Good luck.

Doug.


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poll: use of kernel schedulers?

2007-07-29 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Hi,

I am curious, how many of you play with kernel schedulers that are not 
in mainline?


To name just a few, there is CFS:
http://www.linuxinsight.com/cfs-scheduler-to-appear-in-linux-kernel-2.6.23.html

And there still is ck1 for 2.6.22 (and previous), but there will not be 
for 2.6.23 or beyond:

http://members.optusnet.com.au/ckolivas/kernel/

I have used both, with good results "feeling-wise" but statistics-wise 
there only is the current flame war on the kernel list, ultimately the 
reason that Con Kolivas quit.


I am currently running Debian's:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ uname -a
Linux debian 2.6.22-1-k7 #1 SMP PREEMPT Sun Jul 29 07:39:18 CDT 2007 
i686 GNU/Linux


to which 2.6.22-ck1 has been added.

Hugo


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Re: Asus P5K WS motherboard / Marvell IDE - CDrom not detected by installer

2007-07-29 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Sun, Jul 29, 2007 at 03:55:18AM -0800, Mike Messick wrote:
> 
> I'm using the latest debian-testing-amd64-businesscard installer on an
> Asus P5K motherboard with an ICH9 Southbridge and  Marvell 88SE61xx SATA /
> PATA chipset.  I'm using an HP dvd1040i CDrom drive for installation.
> 
> The installer boots fine but cannot find any cdrom device to use.  When I
> look at dmesg, I get the following output relating to the ide devices: 
> 

[snip dmesg]

> an lspci yields the following IDE devices:

[snip lspci]
 
> So it looks like my 2 hard drives are showing up just fine, but I'm fairly
> clueless as to why the kernel (2.6.21-2-amd64) isn't finding the CDrom
> drive.
> 
> I've verified that the Marvell IDE/eSATA controller is enabled in the BIOS
> as well (hence the initial booting of the installer CD).
> 
> I'm hoping someone on the list can point me in the right direction; if
> this isn't the appropriate list then please accept my apologies for the
> noise.

Its not noise.  However, check out the installation manual.  It tells
you how to submit an installation report via the BTS with email to
bugs.debian.org to the (I think) installation-reports psudo-package.

The 'maintainer' for the reports is the debian-boot team who write the
installer.  

I would suggest that you subscribe to debian-boot, follow the
instructions in the manual and submit an installation report.  Since
they know how the installer works, they can be of more specific help.
They certainly were when I was in your shoes 8 months ago.

Good luck,

Doug.


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Re: /bin/login listening?

2007-07-29 Thread Tyler Smith
On 2007-07-29, Jeff D <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>From the looks of it, it could have just been a false positive.  ive seen 
> rkhunter report a few, not very often though.  I'd run rkhunter again, 
> install chkrootkit, run that, see if the two match up.
>
> As far as debsums reporting back on the rkhunter files, those will 
> probably not match, as they can get updated.
>

I ran rkhunter again, and then for good measure I aptitude --purged
it, reinstalled, and ran again. And then I thought maybe the whole
thing was compromised, so I purged it again, installed rkhunter 1.30
from sourceforge, and ran again. And I also ran chkrootkit. In all
cases they showed nothing happening, except for warning me that some
of my /bin executables had been replaced by scripts -- stuff like
egrep, fgrep etc.

So perhaps it was just a false positive. I'm going to read up on
security stuff now, so maybe I'll have some idea how to proceed the
next time.

Thanks for your help,

Tyler


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Re: lenny: getting non-free nvidia drivers issue

2007-07-29 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Sun, Jul 29, 2007 at 06:19:47AM -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
 >
> >Yes I'm running amd64.  However, since I'm on slow dialup and the amd64
> >box is the only one with a CD burner and lots of drive space, it would
> >be a major headache to have something happen that caused stuff to not
> >work.  
> 
> But what could happen if you tried it on a duplicate partition? So it 
> doesn't work. You go back to the working partition.
> 

The box uses LVM so I can't give Lenny its own actual disk
partitions.  Also, downloading a whole new installation is non-trivial
at 28.8 Kb/s (sometimes 14.4, sometimes 9600).  I'm many miles from the
telephone exchange.  It took a few days to install an ia32 chroot with
just base, mc, lynx, and iceweasel.

Doug.


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Re: A question of fonts

2007-07-29 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 22:28:13 +0100, andy wrote:

[...]

> I do have the latest msttcorefonts installed. It just looks crap with
> Xmms and sometimes Iceweasel seems difficult to read too. But
> certainly Xmms is the worst of the bunch.

This could also be a problem with your settings for font display rather
than with the fonts themselves. I do not use XMMS, so here is a
demonstration of the influence of font settings on iceweasel (PNG image,
55.6 KB):

http://users.icfo.es/Florian.Kulzer/fontconfig/iceweasel-font-comparison.png

Maybe you can post your font settings and we can have a look:

awk '/fontconfig/,/^$/' /var/cache/debconf/config.dat

xrdb -query | grep Xft

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Asus P5K WS motherboard / Marvell IDE - CDrom not detected by installer

2007-07-29 Thread Mike Messick

Hi Folks,

I'm using the latest debian-testing-amd64-businesscard installer on an
Asus P5K motherboard with an ICH9 Southbridge and  Marvell 88SE61xx SATA /
PATA chipset.  I'm using an HP dvd1040i CDrom drive for installation.

The installer boots fine but cannot find any cdrom device to use.  When I
look at dmesg, I get the following output relating to the ide devices: 

Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 7.00alpha2
ide: Assuming 33MHZ system bus speed for PIO modes; override with
idebus=xx
pnp: the driver 'ide' has been registered
ata_piix: :00:1f.2: version 2.10ac1
ata_piix: :00:1f.2: MAP [ P0 P2 P1 P3 ]
ata1: SATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0x000101f0 ctl 0x000103f6
bmdma 0x0001ff90 irq 14
ata1: SATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0x000101f0 ctl 0x00010376
bmdma 0x0001ff98 irq 15
scsi0: ata_piix
ata1.00: ATA-7: ST3500630AS, 3.AAK, max UDMA/133
ata1.00: 976773168 sectors, multi 16: LBA48 NCQ (depth 0/32)
ata1.00: configured for UDMA/133
scsi1: ata_piix
ata2.00: ATA-7: ST3500630AS, 3.AAK, max UDMA/133
ata2.00: 976773168 sectors, multi 16: LBA48 NCQ (depth 0/32)
ata2.00: configured for UDMA/133
scsi: 0:0:0:0: Direct-Access   ATA  ST3500630AS 3.AA PQ: 0 ANSI: 5
scsi: 1:0:0:0: Direct-Access   ATA  ST3500630AS 3.AA PQ: 0 ANSI: 5
ata_piix :00:1f.5: MAP [ P0 P2 P1 P3 ]
ata3: SATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0x0001a000 ctl 0x00019c02
bmdma 0x00019480 irq 22
ata4: SATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0x00019880 ctl 0x00019802
bmdma 0x00019488 irq 22
scsi2: ata_piix
ATA: abnormal status 0x7F on port 0x0001a007
scsi3: ata_piix
ATA: abnormal status 0x7F on port 0x00019887
SCSI device sda: 976773168 512-byte hdwr sectors (500108 MB)
sda: Write protect is off
sda: Mode Sense: 00 3a 00 00
SCSI device sda: write cache: enabled, read cache: enabled, doesn't
support DPO or FUA
SCSI device sda: 976773168 512-byte hdwr sectors (500108 MB)
sda: Write protect is off
sda: Mode Sense: 00 3a 00 00
SCSI device sda: write cache: enabled, read cache: enabled, doesn't
support DPO or FUA
  sda: unknown partition table
sd: 0:0:0:0: Attached scsi disk sda
SCSI device sdb: 976773168 512-byte hdwr sectors (500108 MB)
sdb: Write protect is off
sdb: Mode Sense: 00 3a 00 00
SCSI device sdb: write cache: enabled, read cache: enabled, doesn't
support DPO or FUA
SCSI device sdb: 976773168 512-byte hdwr sectors (500108 MB)
sdb: Write protect is off
sdb: Mode Sense: 00 3a 00 00
SCSI device sdb: write cache: enabled, read cache: enabled, doesn't
support DPO or FUA
  sdb: unknown partition table
sd: 1:0:0:0: Attached scsi disk sdb
ide0: I/O resource 0x3F6-0x3F6 not free.
ide0: ports already in use, skipping probe
ide1: I/O resource 0x376-0x376 not free.
ide1: ports already in use, skipping probe

an lspci yields the following IDE devices:

00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation Unknown device 2920 (rev 02)
(prog-if 8a [Master SecP PriP])
  Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Unknown device 8277
  Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 22
  I/O ports at 01f0 [size=8]
  I/O ports at 03f4 [size=1]
  I/O ports at 0170 [size=8]
  I/O ports at 0374 [size=1]
  I/O ports at ff90 [size=16]
  I/O ports at ffa0 [size=16]
  Capabilities: [70] Power Management version 3
  Capabilities: [b0] Vendor Specific Information

00:1f.5 IDE interface: Intel Corporation Unknown device 2926 (rev 02)
(prog-if 85 [Master SecO PriO])
  Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Unknown device 8277
  Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 22
  I/O ports at a000 [size=8]
  I/O ports at 9c00 [size=4]
  I/O ports at 9880 [size=8]
  I/O ports at 9800 [size=4]
  I/O ports at 9480 [size=16]
  I/O ports at 9400 [size=16]
  Capabilities: [70] Power Management version 3
  Capabilities: [b0] Vendor Specific Information

01:00.0 IDE interface: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. Unknown device 6121
(rev b1) (prog-if 8f [Master SecP SecO PriP PriO])
  Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Unknown device 8296
  Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 10
  I/O ports at bc00 [size=8]
  I/O ports at b880 [size=4]
  I/O ports at b800 [size=8]
  I/O ports at b480 [size=16]
  I/O ports at b400 [size=16]
  Memory at fe7ffc00 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=1K]
  Capabilities: [48] Power Management version 2
  Capabilities: [50] Messsage Signalled Interrupts: Mask- 64bit- Queue=0/0
Enable-
  Capabilities: [e0] Express Legacy Endpoint IRQ 0

So it looks like my 2 hard drives are showing up just fine, but I'm fairly
clueless as to why the kernel (2.6.21-2-amd64) isn't finding the CDrom
drive.

I've verified that the Marvell IDE/eSATA controller is enabled in the BIOS
as well (hence the initial booting of the installer CD).

I'm hoping someone on the list can point me in the right direction; if
this isn't the appropriate list then please accept my apologies for the
noise.

Thanks in advance,
-Mike.

==
Mike Messick   Dona n

Re: lenny: getting non-free nvidia drivers issue

2007-07-29 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:

On Sat, Jul 28, 2007 at 05:23:26PM -0700, Alan Ianson wrote:

On Sat July 28 2007 15:45, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:


Difficulty with nvidia is the main reason that I'm sticking with Etch.
Are you running an amd64 there? I have had no trouble on the amd64 with the 
nvidia drivers. There a couple issues that I know of for the i386 but amd64 
has been painless.. :)




Yes I'm running amd64.  However, since I'm on slow dialup and the amd64
box is the only one with a CD burner and lots of drive space, it would
be a major headache to have something happen that caused stuff to not
work.  



But what could happen if you tried it on a duplicate partition? So it 
doesn't work. You go back to the working partition.




My other boxes are a 486 and a PII and etch stuff needs so much

memory that using them to 'rescue' the amd64 is painful.  I've tried it
as part of verifying my backup strategy but its difficult.  


So, in effect, my Athlon box for me is mission-critical and I'll stick
with stable now that its etch.




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Documented NFS/statd Debian Bug

2007-07-29 Thread Justin Piszcz

Subject: nfs-common: NFS volume no longer mounted on boo

Sun Jul 29 08:31:18 2007: Setting up networking
Sun Jul 29 08:31:18 2007: Configuring network interfaces...Starting 
portmap daemon
Sun Jul 29 08:31:19 2007: mount.nfs: rpc.statd is not running but is 
required for remote locking
Sun Jul 29 08:31:19 2007:Either use "-o nolocks" to keep locks local, 
or start statd.
Sun Jul 29 08:31:19 2007: mount.nfs: rpc.statd is not running but is 
required for remote locking
Sun Jul 29 08:31:19 2007:Either use "-o nolocks" to keep locks local, 
or start statd.
Sun Jul 29 08:31:20 2007: mount.nfs: rpc.statd is not running but is 
required for remote locking
Sun Jul 29 08:31:20 2007:Either use "-o nolocks" to keep locks local, 
or start statd.
Sun Jul 29 08:31:20 2007: mount.nfs: rpc.statd is not running but is 
required for remote locking
Sun Jul 29 08:31:20 2007:Either use "-o nolocks" to keep locks local, 
or start statd.
Sun Jul 29 08:31:20 2007: mount.nfs: rpc.statd is not running but is 
required for remote locking
Sun Jul 29 08:31:20 2007:Either use "-o nolocks" to keep locks local, 
or start statd.

Sun Jul 29 08:31:21 2007: done.
Sun Jul 29 08:31:21 2007: Starting portmap daemon...Already running..
Sun Jul 29 08:31:21 2007: Starting NFS common utilities: statd idmapd.

http://groups.google.com/group/linux.debian.bugs.dist/browse_frm/thread/5872ffd5eb89d1bd/8f82d66c7f9870d3?lnk=st&q=mount.nfs%3A+rpc.statd+is+not+running+but+is+required+for+remote+locking&rnum=10#8f82d66c7f9870d3
http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg369274.html

Besides adding a manual fix for this, is there any ETA for a proper fix of 
the init scripts as NFS no longer mount due to statd not being started 
before it attempts to mount the shares from other machines?


Justin.


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Re: clamav returns an ERROR in exim 4 mainlog

2007-07-29 Thread Mathias Chauvin
Hi Robert,

I've had the same problem on my server. I think this is due to an access
deny on the mail data.
You may want to add clamav user to the Debian-exim group and restart
clamd so that the clamd process is able to access
/var/spool/exim4/scan/whatever.

Have a nice Sunday!


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> Hi all,
>
> I'm getting this error message in my exim mainlog and I have no idea why 
> and what to do about it, please help:
>
> malware acl condition: clamd: ClamAV returned 
> /var/spool/exim4/scan/1IF2JG-0004Oy-Sh: lstat() failed. ERROR
>
> I'm running debian etch and I suspect I need to add clamav as a trusted 
> user, in other words I need to change some permissions, but I'm not sure 
> where.  I'm using exim in the combined configuration mode.
>
> So what's the best way to clear-up this problem?
>
> Thanks in advance!
> Robert
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Re: A question of fonts

2007-07-29 Thread Glen Pfeiffer
On 07/28/2007 01:30 PM, Alan Ianson wrote:
> On Sat July 28 2007 12:30, Glen Pfeiffer wrote:
>> msttcorefonts
>>
>> It is available in the debian-multimedia repository.
>> http://www.debian-multimedia.org/
> 
> This package is in contrib. No need for debian-multimedia for 
> this one.

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