Base-config en Etch

2007-09-29 Thread Melkor
Hello World!

He estat mirant per Internet i base-config ha sigut eliminat de la
rama estable de Debian. En aquest cas que es pot fer per a utilitzar
aquest programa en Etch?
Coneixeu alguna alternativa a aquest programa? Necessite que l'he
d'invocar via ssh.

Gràcies.

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prochain pilote NVIDIA

2007-09-29 Thread Pierre Crescenzo
Bonjour,

C'est un thème qui revient assez souvent sur la liste mais... Savez-vous
s'il y a une chance qu'un pilote NVIDIA (avec 3D et optimisations)
apparaisse dans les paquets Debian pour les noyaux 2.6.21 ou suivants ?
(Ma question concerne les paquets de pilote Debian, pas les paquets de
source ni les pilotes fournis sur le site de NVIDIA.)

Merci. Bon week-end !

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Re: prochain pilote NVIDIA

2007-09-29 Thread Benjamin Lannoy
Le Sat, 29 Sep 2007 10:05:55 +0200,
Pierre Crescenzo [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :

 Bonjour,
Salut. :)

 C'est un thème qui revient assez souvent sur la liste mais...
 Savez-vous s'il y a une chance qu'un pilote NVIDIA (avec 3D et
 optimisations) apparaisse dans les paquets Debian pour les noyaux
 2.6.21 ou suivants ? (Ma question concerne les paquets de pilote
 Debian, pas les paquets de source ni les pilotes fournis sur le site
 de NVIDIA.)
Heu... Je ne sais pas si tu es en stable/testing/unstable, mais le
pilote propriétaire est bien disponible dans la partie non-free de
unstable, et doit l'être très probablement aussi dans stable et testing.
Ce qui manque par contre, c'est bien le module pour le noyau, mais qui
s'installe très bien par un :
# m-a a-i nvidia-kernel
Un paquet pour ça serait un poil plus confortable, certes... mais bon.
C'est propre quand-même.

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Re: prochain pilote NVIDIA

2007-09-29 Thread Pierre Crescenzo
Bonjour,

Je dois être à côté de la plaque...

 Heu... Je ne sais pas si tu es en stable/testing/unstable,

testing

 mais le pilote propriétaire est bien disponible dans la partie
 non-free de unstable, et doit l'être très probablement aussi dans
 stable et testing.

Si c'est le cas en testing, je ne le trouve pas (pour le noyau 2.6.21
notamment) mais j'ai peut-être mal cherché. Quel serait le nom du paquet
en testing ? Quel est-il en unstable ?

 Ce qui manque par contre, c'est bien le module pour le noyau, mais qui
 s'installe très bien par un : # m-a a-i nvidia-kernel

C'est quoi cette commande « m-a », c'est quoi cette option « a-i »,
c'est quoi ce fichier « nvidia-kernel » ? :-)

 Un paquet pour ça serait un poil plus confortable, certes... mais bon.
 C'est propre quand-même.

Donc, je suis preneur ! :-) Quelques précisions ?

Merci. A+

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corecteur ortographique evolution

2007-09-29 Thread nono
Salut


J'utilise le client de messagerie evolution mais je coince sur la
configuration de correction ortographique. La fenêtre
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est vide dans l'encadré «Langue».

Si quelqu'un pouvais m'aiguiller

merci

nono

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Re: prochain pilote NVIDIA

2007-09-29 Thread mpg
Le (on) samedi 29 septembre 2007 10:50, Pierre Crescenzo a écrit (wrote) :
 C'est quoi cette commande « m-a », c'est quoi cette option « a-i »,
 c'est quoi ce fichier « nvidia-kernel » ? :-)
 
m-a a-i est un raccourci pour 'module-assistant auto-install'.
module-assistant est l'utilitaire debian pour compiler et installer des
modules du noyau sans douleur. auto-install est l'opération la plus simple
(pour l'utilisateur) : m-a s'occupe tout seul d'aller récupérer les sources
dans les dépôts, de les compiler et de les installer, sans intervention de
l'utilisateur.

Ne pas oublier avant la première utilisation de m-a (ou après un changement
de noyau) de faire un petit 'm-a prepare' qui s'occupe de tout faire propre
comme il faut, avec les en-têtes du noyau où il faut et les outils de
compilation à jour.

Manuel.


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Re: corecteur ortographique evolution

2007-09-29 Thread Jean-Michel OLTRA

Bonjour,


Le samedi 29 septembre 2007, nono a écrit...



 J'utilise le client de messagerie evolution mais je coince sur la
 configuration de correction ortographique. La fenêtre
 Édition-Préférences-Préférence de l'éditeur-Correction-ortographique
 est vide dans l'encadré «Langue».

 Si quelqu'un pouvais m'aiguiller

Première chose qui me vient à l'esprit (je n'ai pas évolution, mais
...Mutt), un paquet est manquant, qui gère le dictionnaire français.

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Re: corecteur ortographique evolution

2007-09-29 Thread Christophe Alonso
Le samedi 29 septembre 2007 à 12:05 +0200, nono a écrit :
 Salut
 
 
 J'utilise le client de messagerie evolution mais je coince sur la
 configuration de correction ortographique. La fenêtre
 Édition-Préférences-Préférence de l'éditeur-Correction-ortographique
 est vide dans l'encadré «Langue».
 
 Si quelqu'un pouvais m'aiguiller

Il suffit d'installer gnome-spell.

 merci
 
 nono

De rien



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Re: prochain pilote NVIDIA

2007-09-29 Thread Pierre Crescenzo
Bonjour,

 m-a a-i est un raccourci pour 'module-assistant auto-install'.
 module-assistant est l'utilitaire debian pour compiler et installer
 des modules du noyau sans douleur. auto-install est l'opération la
 plus simple (pour l'utilisateur) : m-a s'occupe tout seul d'aller
 récupérer les sources dans les dépôts, de les compiler et de les
 installer, sans intervention de l'utilisateur.

 Ne pas oublier avant la première utilisation de m-a (ou après un
 changement de noyau) de faire un petit 'm-a prepare' qui s'occupe de
 tout faire propre comme il faut, avec les en-têtes du noyau où il faut
 et les outils de compilation à jour.

OK. Merci. Je comprends désormais cette partie-là et l'ai
réalisée. Maintenant, avec « module-assistant », comment installer un
module du noyau pour NVIDIA (avec 3D et optimisations) sous testing ?
« module-assistant auto-install nvidia-kernel » ne trouve rien dans
testing. Il faut encore attendre un peu quelques arrivées de paquets
depuis unstable ?

Merci ! A+

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Re: prochain pilote NVIDIA

2007-09-29 Thread Benjamin Lannoy
Le Sat, 29 Sep 2007 13:52:54 +0200,
Pierre Crescenzo [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :

 OK. Merci. Je comprends désormais cette partie-là et l'ai
 réalisée. Maintenant, avec « module-assistant », comment installer un
 module du noyau pour NVIDIA (avec 3D et optimisations) sous testing ?
 « module-assistant auto-install nvidia-kernel » ne trouve rien dans
 testing. Il faut encore attendre un peu quelques arrivées de paquets
 depuis unstable ?
As-tu activé les dépôts non-free dans ton
fichier /etc/apt/sources.list ?

deb http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free

Ensuite, aptitude update  aptitude install nvidia-glx.

Enfin, éditer en conséquence /etc/X11/xorg.conf (mais je suppose qu'il
t'es déjà arrivé de le faire, puisque tu as parlé de l'installeur sur
le site de NVidia).

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Re: prochain pilote NVIDIA

2007-09-29 Thread Georges
Bonjour,

Dans quelques jours (4?) avec un peu de chance on vas avoir nvidia-glx de
retour dans testing et pourquoi pas un paquet pour le 2.6.21, faut juste
patienter.
En attendant ATI/AMD.

regarde ici pour patienter
http://packages.qa.debian.org/n/nvidia-graphics-drivers.html

Georges



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Re: prochain pilote NVIDIA

2007-09-29 Thread Pierre Crescenzo
Bonjour,

 As-tu activé les dépôts non-free dans ton fichier
 /etc/apt/sources.list ?

 deb http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free

Oui. C'était déjà fait.

 Ensuite, aptitude update  aptitude install nvidia-glx.

Déjà fait aussi.

 Enfin, éditer en conséquence /etc/X11/xorg.conf (mais je suppose qu'il
 t'es déjà arrivé de le faire, puisque tu as parlé de l'installeur sur
 le site de NVidia).

Sauf erreur, déjà fait aussi. Mais rien de concluant en 2.6.21 alors que
cela fonctionne bien en 2.6.18.

Merci. A+

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Re: prochain pilote NVIDIA

2007-09-29 Thread Pierre Crescenzo
Bonjour,

 Dans quelques jours (4?) avec un peu de chance on vas avoir nvidia-glx
 de retour dans testing et pourquoi pas un paquet pour le 2.6.21, faut
 juste patienter. En attendant ATI/AMD.

 regarde ici pour patienter
 http://packages.qa.debian.org/n/nvidia-graphics-drivers.html

Merci ! C'est une page instructive. :-) Question induite : quel est
exactement le rapport entre les paquets « nvidia-graphics-drivers » et
« nvidia-glx » ?

A+

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Re: prochain pilote NVIDIA

2007-09-29 Thread mpg
Le (on) samedi 29 septembre 2007 14:00, Benjamin Lannoy a écrit (wrote) :
 « module-assistant auto-install nvidia-kernel » ne trouve rien dans
 testing. Il faut encore attendre un peu quelques arrivées de paquets
 depuis unstable ?
 As-tu activé les dépôts non-free dans ton
 fichier /etc/apt/sources.list ?
 
 deb http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free
 
Il n'y a pas que ça. Chez moi :
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ apt-cache policy nvidia-kernel-source
nvidia-kernel-source:
  Installé : (aucun)
  Candidat : 1.0.8776-4
 Table de version :
 100.14.19-1 0
660 http://ftp.fr.debian.org sid/non-free Packages
 1.0.8776-4 0
860 http://ftp.fr.debian.org stable/non-free Packages
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ apt-cache policy nvidia-glx
nvidia-glx:
  Installé : (aucun)
  Candidat : 1.0.8776-4
 Table de version :
 100.14.19-1 0
660 http://ftp.fr.debian.org sid/non-free Packages
 1.0.8776-4 0
860 http://ftp.fr.debian.org stable/non-free Packages

Ce qui prouve en passant que c'est souvent une bonne idée que d'avoir les
dépôts de stable dans son source.list quand on est en testing.

Manuel.


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Re: corecteur ortographique evolution

2007-09-29 Thread nono
Le samedi 29 septembre 2007 à 12:54 +0200, Christophe Alonso a écrit :
 Le samedi 29 septembre 2007 à 12:05 +0200, nono a écrit :
  Salut
  
  
  J'utilise le client de messagerie evolution mais je coince sur la
  configuration de correction ortographique. La fenêtre
  Édition-Préférences-Préférence de l'éditeur-Correction-ortographique
  est vide dans l'encadré «Langue».
  
  Si quelqu'un pouvais m'aiguiller
 
 Il suffit d'installer gnome-spell.
 
  merci
  
  nono
 
 De rien
 
Super et merci pour la réponse rapide et efficace. ah oui «correcteur»
prend 2 «r»  j'ai tapé un peu vite le titre ;)

merci beaucoup
nono


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Re: corecteur ortographique evolution

2007-09-29 Thread joelle

nono a écrit :

Super et merci pour la réponse rapide et efficace. ah oui «correcteur»
prend 2 «r»  j'ai tapé un peu vite le titre ;)


  

oui et toujours sur le titre  ortographique prend un h ;-)
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Re: corecteur ortographique evolution

2007-09-29 Thread François TOURDE
Le 13785ième jour après Epoch,
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 nono a écrit :
 Super et merci pour la réponse rapide et efficace. ah oui «correcteur»
 prend 2 «r»  j'ai tapé un peu vite le titre ;)



 oui et toujours sur le titre  ortographique prend un h ;-)
 Joëlle

Comme quoi, il n'a pas besoin de correcteur orthographique, la liste
s'en charge aussi :)

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Re: corecteur ortographique evolution

2007-09-29 Thread nono
Le samedi 29 septembre 2007 à 14:47 +0200, joelle a écrit :
 nono a écrit :
  Super et merci pour la réponse rapide et efficace. ah oui «correcteur»
  prend 2 «r»  j'ai tapé un peu vite le titre ;)
 
 

 oui et toujours sur le titre  ortographique prend un h ;-)
 Joëlle
 
Celle là, je ne l'avais pas vue :(

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Re: prochain pilote NVIDIA

2007-09-29 Thread mpg
Le (on) samedi 29 septembre 2007 19:00, fred a écrit (wrote) :

 mpg [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
 
 Le (on) samedi 29 septembre 2007 10:50, Pierre Crescenzo a écrit (wrote)
 :
 C'est quoi cette commande « m-a », c'est quoi cette option « a-i »,
 c'est quoi ce fichier « nvidia-kernel » ? :-)
 
 m-a a-i est un raccourci pour 'module-assistant auto-install'.
 module-assistant est l'utilitaire debian pour compiler et installer des
 modules du noyau sans douleur. auto-install est l'opération la plus
 simple
 Hmmm, elle est où la douleur, dans l'installation des modules du noyau.
 
Pour le newbie comme moi, elle commencerait par exemple au moment où
j'essaie de lire des howtos sur le web, en essayant d'évaluer tant bien que
mal leur fiabilité, et que ça commence par dire qu'il faut récupérer les
en-têtes du noyau, placer le lien symbolique kivabien® mais que attention
sur les systèmes debian c'est pas tout à fait comme ailleurs, etc. 

La plupart du temps j'aime beaucoup comprendre ce qui se passe avec ma
babasse, et debian est très bien pour ça, mais des fois j'ai juste envie
que ma carte wi-fi fonctionne et debian est très bien pour ça aussi.

 (pour l'utilisateur) : m-a s'occupe tout seul d'aller récupérer les
 sources dans les dépôts, de les compiler et de les installer, sans
 intervention de l'utilisateur.
 C'est bien ça que je n'aime pa.
 
Je peux comprendre. J'ai dit le plus simple, j'ai pas dit que c'était le
mieux.

Manuel.


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htaccess

2007-09-29 Thread i-pawe...@tlen.pl

Witam,
Czy w htaccess da sie zrobic przekierowanie w zaleznosci od loginu do 
danego katalogu.
Mam katalog o nazwie 111 w nim dwa katalogi 111a i 111b plik htaccess 
znajduje sie z glownym katalogu 111.
Osoba podaje login user1 haslo user1 i ma dostep tylko do 111a, a osoba 
podajaca login user2 i haslo user2 ma dostep tylko do 111b.

Z gory dziekuje za pomoc i sugestie.

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Modificar particiones

2007-09-29 Thread Jorge Guerrero
Hola, tengo el siguiente problema:
Instalé debian etch y el instalador me generó 3 particiones automáticamente
según el espacio libre en disco.
Las particiones quedaron así.
1giga para swap
12 gigas para /home
6 gigas para el resto del sistema
El problema que tengo es que me quedó chica la partición de 6 gigas, muy
lento el sistema, y me surgen varias preguntas.

¿Es recomendable dejar 2 particiones (una para swap y otra para el resto del
sistema) para no tener problemas de disco?
En caso de ser recomendable ¿Es posible juntar la partición de 12 con la de
6 gigas?
¿Me conviene dejar el sistema como está y solucionar el problema de alguna
manera?
¿Alguna sugerencia o alternativa?

De antemano gracias por su ayuda

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octet-stream

2007-09-29 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
agradezco de antemano la ayuda.

Tengo lenny con kde en un portatil que funcionaba a la perfeccion(o al
menos como yo queria),resulta que ayer luego de hacer las
actualizaciones (sin problemas) al querer apagar el portatil este no lo
hacia,he tenido que apagarlo de pesado con el boton de encendido.
Cuando lo prendo nuevamente arranca todo normalmente hasta que comienza
a cargar el escritorio,donde me aparece 4 o 5 veces la ventana con el
siguiente error: No se pudo encontrar el tipo MIME application/octet-stream.
Cierro estas ventanas de error y el escritorio carga pero desconfigurado
,osea colores diversos en las letras,con boton derecho del mouse no pasa
nada etc etc

alguien me podria decir que caspita es este octet-stream y que es lo que
puede haber pasado? ha sido problema del apagado o de las actualizaciones?



gracias.
saludos



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Re: Iceweasel

2007-09-29 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Alberto Rivera escribió:
 Marcelo Pereyra escribió:
 Santiago José López Borrazás escribió:
  
 El 19/08/07 18:39, Marcelo Pereyra escribió:

 Primero que nada agradezco la vuestra atencion.
   El problema que me aqueja es el siguiente.
   Tengo instalado Iceweasel 2.0.0.6 en lenny,he notado que
 requiere un
 tiempo considerable para arrancar la aplicacion.
 Lo he hecho correr desde consola con :
 $ time iceweasel
   
 Comprueba las extensiones que tengas instaladas. Igual, una de ellas, te
 esté haciendo el tonto y esté ralentizando tu Iceweasel.

 Para probarlo, deshabilita alguno, o todos, y prueba de uno en uno hasta
 encontrar el culpable y borrarlo del navegador.

 
 Bueno una parte del problema esta solucionado.
 tenia una de las extensiones que me lo demoraba un poco.
 Sigo sin resolver el tema de que se cierra solo,he hecho un strace
 iceweasel pero no he logrado encontrar el error.(ojo !! no lo he
 encontrado por ignorancia mia.)
 seguire buscando.
 
 gracias.
   
 Hola Marcelo, sabes que tengo el mismo problema tuyo y no he encontrado
 ninguna solución ni tampoco mucha información en las pruebas que he
 hecho no aparece nada ... así que ya no sé que hacer, solucionaste el
 problema tu, si es así me podrías decir como por favor.
 
 salu2 y gracias


pues no,no lo he solucionado,se me sigue cerrando solito solito !!
no puedo descargar ni guardar nada usando el menu archivo.
Lamento no poder ayudarte.

saludos


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octet-stream

2007-09-29 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
agradezco a todos anticipadamente.

Tengo corriendo Lenny con kde en un portatil,el cual funcionaba a la
perfeccion (o almenos como yo queria).
el problema surgio ayer luego de realizar las actualizaciones ( sin
inconvenientes).Cuando quise apagar la pc esta no lo hizo,asi que lo
hice a lo pesado con el boton de apagado.
Al volverla a prender me aparecen 5 ventanas de error (cuando comienza a
cargar el Desktop) diciendo:
No se pudo encontrar el tipo MIME  application/octet-stream.
Cerrando las ventanas termina de cargar el desktop pero con algunas
desconfiguraciones.al lanzar alguna aplicacion siempre vuelve a aparecer
este mismo mensaje.


alguien me podria decir que caspita es este octet-stream?
el error sera por el apagado mal hecho o por las actualizaciones?


gracias


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Re: octet-stream

2007-09-29 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Odair Augusto Trujillo escribió:
 Hola, te cuento que a mi también me pasó pero cuando traté de hacer que los
 .dat se abriesen con el mplayer, empezó a salirme ese mensaje
 constantemente, lo solucioné agregando el tipo de archivo octec-stream a los
 tipos de dato de kde. Pero realmente esta solución no me dejó contento, me
 pareció un machetazo.
 
 Entiendo que el octet-stream es para reconocer el tipo de archivo por su
 contenido pero no estoy seguro de ello.
 
 Tu solución probablemente esté a la mano de crear el octec-stream vacio
 dentro de la sección applications o incluso crear un nuevo usuario.
 
habia pensado de crear un nuevo usario tan solo para ver si seguia el
error.Lo hare.

 Por otro lado y para los que le sirva esta información, para agregar un tipo
 de archivo nuevo como los .dat de vcd, lo mejor es no asociar el programa
 directamente en el konqueror si no ir a el kcontrol en asociaciones de
 archivos, crear el nuevo tipo vcd en la sección video y agregar los
 programas con los que se va a usar, así como el ícono deseado y las
 extensiones que manejará.
 
Pido disculpas por repetir el mensaje.Pense que no habia llegado a la
lista y escribi uno nuevo.
me disculpo nuevamente y aceptare castigo fisico si es necesario para
que no vuelva a suceder.


gracias.


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Re: Modificar particiones

2007-09-29 Thread Rhonny Lanz
Buenas tardes,

El día 29/09/07, Jorge Guerrero [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:

 Hola, tengo el siguiente problema:
 Instalé debian etch y el instalador me generó 3 particiones
 automáticamente según el espacio libre en disco.
 Las particiones quedaron así.
 1giga para swap
 12 gigas para /home
 6 gigas para el resto del sistema
 El problema que tengo es que me quedó chica la partición de 6 gigas, muy
 lento el sistema, y me surgen varias preguntas.

 ¿Es recomendable dejar 2 particiones (una para swap y otra para el resto
 del sistema) para no tener problemas de disco?
 En caso de ser recomendable ¿Es posible juntar la partición de 12 con la
 de 6 gigas?
 ¿Me conviene dejar el sistema como está y solucionar el problema de alguna
 manera?
 ¿Alguna sugerencia o alternativa?

 De antemano gracias por su ayuda

 Saludos!
 --
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Si apenas tienes recien instalado debian, te recomiendo que vuelvas a
repetir el proceso de instalacion, y te hagas particiones utilizando
volumenes logicos, es mucho mas facil de manejar y de administrar a la hora
de queres cambiar tamaño, crear otras particiones, etc, por ejemplo: yo lo
tengo de la siguiente manera:

/boot primaria
swap primaria
/ primaria
EXTENDIDA --- con volumenes logicos:
 /home
 /usr
 /var

Ese es el esquema que yo utilizo, tambien depende del uso que tendra esa
maquina.

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Re: octet-stream

2007-09-29 Thread Angel Claudio Alvarez
El sáb, 29-09-2007 a las 21:05 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:
 Odair Augusto Trujillo escribió:
  Hola, te cuento que a mi también me pasó pero cuando traté de hacer que los
  .dat se abriesen con el mplayer, empezó a salirme ese mensaje
  constantemente, lo solucioné agregando el tipo de archivo octec-stream a los
  tipos de dato de kde. Pero realmente esta solución no me dejó contento, me
  pareció un machetazo.
  
  Entiendo que el octet-stream es para reconocer el tipo de archivo por su
  contenido pero no estoy seguro de ello.
  
  Tu solución probablemente esté a la mano de crear el octec-stream vacio
  dentro de la sección applications o incluso crear un nuevo usuario.
  
 habia pensado de crear un nuevo usario tan solo para ver si seguia el
 error.Lo hare.
 
  Por otro lado y para los que le sirva esta información, para agregar un tipo
  de archivo nuevo como los .dat de vcd, lo mejor es no asociar el programa
  directamente en el konqueror si no ir a el kcontrol en asociaciones de
  archivos, crear el nuevo tipo vcd en la sección video y agregar los
  programas con los que se va a usar, así como el ícono deseado y las
  extensiones que manejará.
  
 Pido disculpas por repetir el mensaje.Pense que no habia llegado a la
 lista y escribi uno nuevo.
 me disculpo nuevamente y aceptare castigo fisico si es necesario para
 que no vuelva a suceder.
 
OK como castigo fisico ( e intelectual) 2 horas diarias durante una
semana de uso de win9x o ME
jua
 
 gracias.
 
 


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Re: Modificar particiones

2007-09-29 Thread Angel Claudio Alvarez
El sáb, 29-09-2007 a las 11:27 -0400, Jorge Guerrero escribió:
 Hola, tengo el siguiente problema:
 Instalé debian etch y el instalador me generó 3 particiones
 automáticamente según el espacio libre en disco.
 Las particiones quedaron así.
 1giga para swap
 12 gigas para /home 
 6 gigas para el resto del sistema
 El problema que tengo es que me quedó chica la partición de 6 gigas,
 muy lento el sistema, y me surgen varias preguntas.
 
 ¿Es recomendable dejar 2 particiones (una para swap y otra para el
 resto del sistema) para no tener problemas de disco? 
 En caso de ser recomendable ¿Es posible juntar la partición de 12 con
 la de 6 gigas?
 ¿Me conviene dejar el sistema como está y solucionar el problema de
 alguna manera?
 ¿Alguna sugerencia o alternativa?
 
Yo utilizaria un particionado tradicional, /, /usr, /home,  /var, /tmp
y /boot

Tenes mucha documentacion al respecto
Pero basicamente /tmp / por si se te llena de logs no deja de funcionar
el sistema lo mismo para /var. /home por motivos obvios /boot para poder
manejar el booteo independientemente del filesystem utilizado ( Yo
recomiendo xfs)
Para los porcentajes, manejate con la data que hay en ineternet, pero
teniendo en cuenta tus necesidades


 De antemano gracias por su ayuda
 
 Saludos!
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Re: Corregir inicio de aplicaciones (kcmhviewer)

2007-09-29 Thread Gabo

 Hola lista:

 Es que tengo un problema con el kchmviewer y es que cuando abro algún
 archivo chm desde kde sale un error que dice: unable to load the chm
 file system:/home bueno la ruta del archivo. Pero cuando en la
 consola (sin ser root) ejecuto chmviewer si se deja abrir sin ningún
 problema. Como se puede corregir esto?. Instalé chmviewer a traveś de
 synaptic.

 A veces me pasa lo mismo con otras aplicaciones, p ej Matlab, que
 desde consola funciona pero no con alt+F2 matlab..


 Gracias



Re: Roundcube webmail

2007-09-29 Thread Mikael Rudberg
Det tror jag inte går utan du får tanka ner det från deras site och 
kopiera det till där din web server har sina web sidor


typ /var/www

jag har lagt min på

/var/www/apps/rc

(Jag kör lighttpd )

mattias wrote:

Hur installera roundcube webmail i debian med apt-get?


  




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SV: Roundcube webmail

2007-09-29 Thread mattias
Ok fattade google på att det fanns

-Ursprungligt meddelande-
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Skickat: den 29 september 2007 09:12
Till: mattias
Kopia: debian-user-swedish@lists.debian.org
Ämne: Re: Roundcube webmail


Det tror jag inte går utan du får tanka ner det från deras site och 
kopiera det till där din web server har sina web sidor

typ /var/www

jag har lagt min på

/var/www/apps/rc

(Jag kör lighttpd )

mattias wrote:
 Hur installera roundcube webmail i debian med apt-get?


   






Linuxfråga

2007-09-29 Thread Magnus Borefur
Vart kan man ta reda på vad de olika orden (operationer och 
destinatoner) man skriver in i terminalfönstret betyder?



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Re: Linuxfråga

2007-09-29 Thread Martin Leben

Magnus Borefur wrote:
Vart kan man ta reda på vad de olika orden (operationer och 
destinatoner) man skriver in i terminalfönstret betyder?


Hej!

Det var verkligen en allmänt ställd fråga, så svaret kan inte bli så 
specifikt heller. Om du undrar vad ett specifikt kommando gör så är 
man och info din vän. Exempel:


$ man ls
$ info ls

... om du vill veta mer om just programmet ls.

Jag kan bara gissa vad du menar med destinationer. Kanske undrar du vad 
man använder olika kataloger till? I så fall rekommenderar jag lite 
läsning om Filesystem Hierarchy Standard (FHS):

http://www.pathname.com/fhs/

Några andra tips och idéer kan du nog få på dessa ställen:
http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-tutorial.en.html
http://newbiedoc.berlios.de/wiki/Debian_newbie_documentation
http://www.debianhelp.org/

Dra dej inte för att fråga igen om nåt specifikt, men kom också ihåg att 
Google är din vän. Lycka till och välkommen åter.


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Re: Flash Player nonfree

2007-09-29 Thread Deusemar Junior
Concordo plenamente com o Tiago Saboga,

E tudo que ele falou vale para formato de documento em editores de
escritório, tomara que consigam padronizar isto logo antes que de um
parafuso no usuario mais leigo, seja ODF, OpenDocument...

Abraços
Deusemar Jr

Em 28/09/07, Tiago Saboga [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:

 On Fri, Sep 28, 2007 at 07:22:51PM -0300, Thadeu Penna wrote:
  Em 28/09/07, Still[EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:
   * Konnichiwa Sávio Ramos-sama:
   
Como se usa este adblock. É um recurso do Iceweaseal?
  
   Na verdade é uma extensão para o firefox.
  
 
  O que pode ser melhor que o Iceweasel 

 flame
 O konqueror.
 /flame

 É sério, prefiro em geral o konqueror. Mas não foi por isso que resolvi
 responder, mas para colocar para fora algo que não me sai da cabeça há
 um tempo: as duas ferramentas mais usadas no computador ainda estão em
 estágios de desenvolvimento muito inicial, a meu ver. São o navegador
 e o processador de texto. Não estou falando do linux, aqui, mas de
 qualquer sistema operacional (entre os que conheço, claro, mas acho
 que já passei pelos principais... *bsd, solaris, linux. windows, macos).

 Para navegadores, claro, o problema central é a intercompatibilidade,
 mas também a usabilidade e configurabilidade (ou acessibilidade).

 Para processadores de texto, é só comparar os recursos de um oo com um
 emacs para ter uma idéia da tragédia. E aqui a intercompatibilidade
 também ainda é um problema (mesmo, infelizmente, entre programas que
 implementam o opendocument).

 Foi mal pelo desabafo, mas é sexta-feira e ainda estou trabalhando...

 Tiago.


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Como saber quantos slots de memória tem meu latitude D400

2007-09-29 Thread Ronaldo Reis Junior
Pessoal,

como faço para saber quantos slots de memória meu laptop tem?

Tenho 512mb e quero expandir para 1024 mb, eu abri o módulo de memória que tem 
no fundo e está vazio. Será que isto significa que tenho dois slots de 
memória com um único pente de 512 MB? Aí bastaria eu comprar outro pente 512 
MB e colocar no módulo de memória. Tem como saber estas coisas sem abrir o 
laptop todo?

Valeu
Inte
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acl e http_access em texto squid

2007-09-29 Thread Carlos Alberto
Pessoal gostaria de colocar no squid as acl's e http_access em dois arquivos
externos, como faço?

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acl e http_access em texto squid correção

2007-09-29 Thread Carlos Alberto
Pessoal gostaria de colocar no squid as acl's e http_access em dois arquivos
externos ao squid.conf, como faço?


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Baixar de vários repos simultaneamente

2007-09-29 Thread Ronaldo Reis Junior
Pessoal,

tem como fazer o synaptic baixar de vários repositórios simultaneamente? Ou 
seja, eu defino vários repos no source.list e ao pedir para atualizar ele vai 
baixando arquivos de todos simultanemante.

VAleu
Inte
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Re: Baixar de vários repos simultaneamente

2007-09-29 Thread Adauto Serpa

Ronaldo Reis Junior escreveu:

Pessoal,

tem como fazer o synaptic baixar de vários repositórios simultaneamente? Ou 
seja, eu defino vários repos no source.list e ao pedir para atualizar ele vai 
baixando arquivos de todos simultanemante.


VAleu
Inte
Ronaldo
  

Ronaldo,


Acho que o Synaptic já faz isso automaticamente.
Pelo menos pude ver isso acontecer no Debian 4.0 Etch rc0.
Acho que isso é uma função do apt.


até mais,


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Re: Debian Etch - VMware - Baixa Performance

2007-09-29 Thread Adauto Serpa

Vinícius de Morais escreveu:

Pessoal,

Comecei a utilizar o VMware e fiz uma instalação em um P4, utilizando 
o Debian etch como host.


A instalação da Debian foi a do mínimo necessário suficiente.rs

E após isso instalei os pré-req do VMware e o VMware.

A máquina está ótima...

Agora fui fazer a mesma instalação em um Core 2 Duo, a performance 
está terrível, parece que só está conseguindo utilizar um núcleo do 
processador. Estou utilizando a versão 2.6.18-4-686 do kernel.


Alguém já teve algum problema de performance com o Core 2 Duo?

--
Vinícius 

Vinícius,

Já verificou se o kernel reconheceu os dois núcleos.

cat /proc/cpuinfo


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Re: ServerRAID-8k-l

2007-09-29 Thread Luiz Gonzaga da Mata
Rodolfo,

Em Sab, Setembro 29, 2007 01:01, Rodolfo Allan escreveu:

Veja o changelog do kernel 2.6.21 = [SCSI] aacraid: Begin adding support
for new adapter type

http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/ChangeLog-2.6.21.


Tem o backport abaixo para o Etch que utiliza o 2.6.21

http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/

Baixe o iso e faça um teste.

Um abraço,

Gonzaga.



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[OFF] Controle de estoque - SL

2007-09-29 Thread RGU
Alguém conhece e poderia me indicar algum software livre para controle 
de estoque, vendas, cadastro de clientes e de revendedores.. etc, que 
faça comunicação com impressora fiscal serial. Não sei se ajuda, mas é 
uma micro-empresa.

=)


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Re: [OFF] Controle de estoque - SL

2007-09-29 Thread Guilherme Rocha
http://www.stoq.com.br/   ??

Em 29/09/07, RGU[EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:
 Alguém conhece e poderia me indicar algum software livre para controle
 de estoque, vendas, cadastro de clientes e de revendedores.. etc, que
 faça comunicação com impressora fiscal serial. Não sei se ajuda, mas é
 uma micro-empresa.
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Re: Como saber quantos slots de memória tem meu latitude D400

2007-09-29 Thread Fabio Guerrazzi

 Ronaldo Reis Junior wrote:
 Pessoal,

 como faço para saber quantos slots de memória meu laptop tem?

 Tenho 512mb e quero expandir para 1024 mb, eu abri o módulo de memória que
 tem
 no fundo e está vazio. Será que isto significa que tenho dois slots de
 memória com um único pente de 512 MB? Aí bastaria eu comprar outro pente
 512
 MB e colocar no módulo de memória. Tem como saber estas coisas sem abrir o
 laptop todo?

Eu ligaria para o suporte Dell.

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Re: Instalar Driver Nvidia

2007-09-29 Thread Rafael Leandro
Minha placa de video é uma Gforce4 MX4000

Instalei o Automatix2
Depois, através dele, instalei a minha placa de video. Focou demais!
Intalei também:
Adobe Reader 9
Java Run Time
FlashPlayer
e outras coisas



Em 28/09/07, Tiago Saboga [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu:

 On Fri, Sep 28, 2007 at 02:23:42PM -0300, Adauto Serpa wrote:
  Boa tarde Pessoal,
 
  Quais são os pacotes ao certo que devo instalar para
  Aceleração 3D da Nvidia ?
  Ou é melhor instalar pelo arquivo baixado no site da Nvidia ?

 Veja qual a versão do núcleo (kernel) que você tem instalado, por
 exemplo com

 $ uname -a

 E instale o pacote nvidia-kernel-[versão] (por exemplo
 nvidia-kernel-k7) e o pacote nvidia-glx. Recomendo também o
 nvidia-settings e nvidia-xconfig. Usando a versão estável do Debian,
 acho que é o melhor caminho. O problema é se você tiver uma placa que
 ainda não era ssuportada pelo driver quando do lançamento do etch.
 Nesse caso, siga o link indicado na outra resposta.

 Tiago.


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çekirdek capabilities özelliği

2007-09-29 Thread Zeki Çatav
Merhaba,
Dazuko derlerken aşağıdaki hatayı alıyorum. Debian Etch için çekirdek 
derlemeden bu özellik kernel module olan hazır çekirdek var mıdır? Yoksa 
derleme sırasında sadece bu özelliği bulup değiştirmek sistem geneli için 
başka sorun, sıkıntı v.b... yapar mı?

~/dazuko-2.3.3$ ./configure
checking host system type... Linux
checking for make utility... ok (make)
checking for C compiler... ok (cc)
kernel source in /lib/modules/2.6.18-5-686/source... no
kernel build source in /lib/modules/2.6.18-5-686/build... yes
kernel source in /lib/modules/2.6.18-5-686/build... yes
acquiring Linux kernel code configuration... ok
checking if Linux is RSBAC patched... no
checking if devfs is enabled... no
discovered host system... Linux (2.6.18)
checking if security module support is enabled... yes
verifying capabilities are not built-in... built-in :(
error: capabilities are built-in to the kernel:
   you will need to recompile a kernel with capabilities
   as a kernel module

İyi çalışmalar.



Re: efficiency of windows managers

2007-09-29 Thread Pál Csányi
What about stumpwm?

http://www.nongnu.org/stumpwm/

Use this window manager somebody on Debian Etch?

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Re: xterm .Xdefaults font size

2007-09-29 Thread Pál Csányi
2007/9/29, Liam O'Toole [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 23:08:21 +0200
 Pál Csányi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  2007/9/28, Neil Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
   On Fri, Sep 28, 2007 at 10:43:38PM +0200, Pál Csányi wrote:
   Where can I pass the -fn argument to xterm to set up font size,
   using dwm?
  
   You can assign you xterm properties in .Xdefaults:
  
   # fonts
   xterm*faceName: Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:style=Bold
 
  I edit the .Xdefaults :
  xterm.*faceName: -biznet-fixed-*-*-*-*-24-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
 
  run xterm but the font do not changes. Why?
 

 The faceName resource is used to select fonts using the FreeType
 library. I am not familiar with the 'biznet' font. Is it available to
 FreeType? You can check using the 'fc-list' command.

No, it is not available. I checked out with 'fc-list'.

So, I decide to use rxvt (xterm that support the biznet fonts).

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Re: xterm .Xdefaults font size

2007-09-29 Thread Pál Csányi
2007/9/28, Andrew Sackville-West [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 On Fri, Sep 28, 2007 at 11:37:36PM +0200, Pál Csányi wrote:
  2007/9/28, Peter Smerdon [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
   Pál Csányi [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
2007/9/28, Neil Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Fri, Sep 28, 2007 at 10:43:38PM +0200, Pál Csányi wrote:
Where can I pass the -fn argument to xterm to set up font size, using 
dwm?
   
You can assign you xterm properties in .Xdefaults:
   
# fonts
xterm*faceName: Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:style=Bold
   
I edit the .Xdefaults :
xterm.*faceName: -biznet-fixed-*-*-*-*-24-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
   

 The closest I have to xterm installed is aterm and it specifies that
 for '-fn' argument, use the resource name 'font' so try

 xterm*font: -biznetblachblahblah
 xterm*boldfont: -biznetblahblhablah

run xterm but the font do not changes. Why?
  
   did you run 'xrdb -merge ~/.Xresources' to add the changed resources or 
   login/out of X?
 
  Yes, I did, I logout/login of X.

 that may require a full restart of X, I'm not sure, but just FTR,
 if you're already editing ~/.Xdefaults on a cli somewhere, its pretty
 darn easy to do the `xrdb -merge ~/.Xdefaults  xterm` and see
 results immediately. Also, I use ~/.Xdefaults not ~/.Xresources. I'm
 not sure if that's critical, but sure could be.

Thank you all for help!

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[FIXED] Re: lirc on Debian with AMD64

2007-09-29 Thread Greg Vickers

Hi all,

Marty wrote:

Greg Vickers wrote:

Hi Marty,


snip

Sorry.  I'm not familiar with udev or lirc, nor how they interact in 
deciding device names.  It's surprising to me because I'm using the 
upstream lirc, 0.8.2, and I get /dev/lirc0, as Debian's udev expects.




I'll try my mitigation strategy of removing the Hauppauge and 
installing my Compro DVB card.


OK, I found out that Debian Etch uses a new input layer, and that the IR 
inputs are in /dev/input/eventX where X corresponds the event number of 
your input devices in 'cat /proc/bus/input/devices'


So my IR device is /dev/input/event1, instead of /dev/lirc or /dev/lirc0.

Wooties!

Greg


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Re: Sound stopped working in Sid

2007-09-29 Thread Chris Lale
Anthony Campbell wrote:
[...]

 Have you tried running udevtrigger as user root? This is from bug no 430624 
 [1]:

 # udevtrigger --verbose

 This should reload the modules you need. On next reboot, your system will 
 find
 your soundcard. The module management is done by udev. You should not need to
 use alsaconf any more.

 [1] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=430624

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 I do have /etc/modprobe-d though I'm not sure what it does. I tried
 udevtrigger but it didn't reload the module after alsaconf; I did it
 with insmod, I think. Anyway, it's all fairly academic since now that I
 have the entry in /etc/modules it loads automatically at each reboot.
 

Thanks for trying these suggestions out. udevtrigger didn't work for me either.
It's nice to know that I'm not being completely stupid :).

I'm glad you've got it all working now.

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accessibility install question

2007-09-29 Thread Jude DaShiell
On debian when a system gets a text environment installed on it first then 
gets gnome-orca installed on it, gnome and gnome-orca get installed but X 
does not get installed.  If X is required to run gnome; gtk, and kde and 
isn't found already installed on a system when a gnome-orca install gets 
done why aren't X and X associated packages also made dependencies and 
installed?  It can be more difficult for users with accessibility 
requirements to install the g.u.i. part of debian correctly especially 
without sighted assistance when trying the installation and then have the 
G.U.I. environment come up accessibly when finished.  I suppose one could 
use gdm to start gnome and not use startx but you'd still have the issue 
for setting the correct display and blind users tend to run debian without 
monitors or mice connected unless they can get sighted assistance on a 
maintenance issue.




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Re: udev and automounting

2007-09-29 Thread André Berger
* Jesus Arocho (2007-09-28):
 Try an entry in /etc/udev/10-local.rules; great howtos on the net.
 
 On Thursday 27 September 2007 07:50, Dan H wrote:
[...]

There's also great information on quoting, e.g.
http://www.vranx.de/mail/tofu.html

-André

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Re: accessibility install question

2007-09-29 Thread Kevin Mark
On Sat, Sep 29, 2007 at 03:14:02AM -0500, Jude DaShiell wrote:
 On debian when a system gets a text environment installed on it first then 
 gets gnome-orca installed on it, gnome and gnome-orca get installed but X 
 does not get installed.  If X is required to run gnome; gtk, and kde and 
 isn't found already installed on a system when a gnome-orca install gets 
 done why aren't X and X associated packages also made dependencies and 
 installed?  It can be more difficult for users with accessibility 
 requirements to install the g.u.i. part of debian correctly especially 
 without sighted assistance when trying the installation and then have the 
 G.U.I. environment come up accessibly when finished.  I suppose one could 
 use gdm to start gnome and not use startx but you'd still have the issue 
 for setting the correct display and blind users tend to run debian without 
 monitors or mice connected unless they can get sighted assistance on a 
 maintenance issue.
Hi Jude,
if I recall correctly, there is no x windows dependency because of the
split between x server and x client. What this means is that you can use
an x client on your server with an x server on another machine, thus you
do not need an x server installed on your machine. Now the issue I guess
is to communicate this to blind users and where to document it. Maybe
this is for a debian accessiblity list or the debian-devel list?
hope this explains,
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iceweasel freezing X

2007-09-29 Thread Attilio Cucchieri


Hi,

  I have installed Debian etch, basically using the packages
from Standard and Desktop, on two different computers.
In both cases, if one starts sevaral Iceweasel windows, the
X session gets frozen when the windows are closed (only when
they are closed!). The two PC's have

PIV 2.4, 512 KB cache, 512 MB memory

PIV 2.8, 2 MB cache, 512 MB memory

Note: it is only the X session that gets frozen. When this happens,
I can still connect to the machines from another PC and work
on it.

Any ideas of what's going on?
Best
  Attilio



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Re: Upgrading from Etch to Lenny

2007-09-29 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 10:25:24PM -0700, Michael M. wrote:
  Testing is not a released version of Debian; testing exists to get 
  bugs fixed. You only use testing if you want to test software.
 
 
 Speak for yourself.  No one is testing Evolution 2.10, or GNOME 2.18,
 or much of the other software in testing.  Much of it isn't even the
 most recently released version of any given piece of software.  What is
 being tested is how well everything fits together in the Debian system,
 and most of that gets fixed in Sid.

Why do think it is called testing?
Why do you think it is not advertised as a Debian release.
Check the debian-release archives as to why the later version of GNOME
did not go into Etch, (it was not technical, but human reasons)

 Debian has the most conservative release policy of any Linux distro I
 know of.  That suits some types of users very well, particularly those
 who need reliability that's as close to 100% as you can get, those who's
 servers truly are mission-critical and can't afford a few minor glitches
 that might temporarily mess something up.  It does not suit many
 garden-variety desktop users who systems are less than a few years old
 and who don't want to be stuck in early 2006 for the next year while
 Debian drags itself kicking and screaming through yet another protracted
 and endlessly delayed release cycle.

So why do garden-variety desktop users complain then?
If you want later versions of software why not download the source and
compile it yourself, running it from under /usr/local/bin if need be?

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Re: OT: Choice of OOo and LaTeX (Was: Tool for document management)

2007-09-29 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Sep 26, 2007 at 10:21:04AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
 One has to change the tool so if one is advocating LaTeX because of the
 merits of LaTeX over WYSIWYG one cannot offer up WYSIWYG as a front end for
 LaTeX without invalidating the argument that it is superior.

Humbug! It allows people who have not yet seen the light to access its
features in a familiar way until they at last see the light and turf the
WSYIWG THINGAMAJIG out the window.

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Re: How to reply in the mailing lists

2007-09-29 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Sep 25, 2007 at 01:11:32AM -0400, Eric d'Alibut wrote:
 
 And I'm much too lazy to bother using a newsreader for anything other
 news. What is it with you guys and newsreaders? Ick.

You are going to have to try harder than that to get the Gnus users to
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Re: Debian may lose a user

2007-09-29 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Sep 25, 2007 at 11:12:02PM -0400, Kevin Mark wrote:
 more likely to give better reports if asked by a nice dd. But since its
 not 'policy', its not something that is required. There is the obvious
 situation where DD have real lives and can not respond to every user,

Apparently policy does not list requirements but best practices. IOW
policy is not (supposed to be(?)) used to enforce behaviour.

Please correct my statement(s) if I am off target.

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Re: Nspluginwrapper on AMD64

2007-09-29 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Sat, Sep 29, 2007 at 13:06:20 +0530, Sridhar M.A. wrote:

[...]

 Since, I am tracking sid, I have the latest version of
 flashplugin-nonfree on the system (9.0.48.0.2).

OK, I just wanted to make sure. As I said before, this version works
out of the box for me on my Sid/amd64 system. Unfortunately, this also
means that I don't know too much about the details of the
plugin-wrapping mechanism.

[...]

 I purged nspluginwrapper and flashplugin-nonfree and installed them
 again. Here is the final result:
 
 snip
 Download done.
 Flash Plugin installed.
 /usr/lib/nspluginwrapper/i386/linux/npviewer.bin: 
 /usr/lib/nspluginwrapper/i386/linux/npviewer.bin: cannot execute binary file
 nspluginwrapper: no appropriate viewer found for 
 /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so
 dpkg: error processing flashplugin-nonfree (--configure):
  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
 Errors were encountered while processing:
  flashplugin-nonfree
 E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)

[...]

 Am I missing something in the installation chain that is causing this? 

Maybe the viewer cannot be executed because you are missing some
component of X (or some other library) which is assumed to be present
and therefore not specified as an explicit dependency. Do you run an
unusually minimalistic Xorg install?

Looking at the post-installation script, it seems that things go wrong
at the very last step, which is:

nspluginwrapper -n -i /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so

According to the manpage, this is meant to install the wrapper for
libflashplayer.so into the mozilla plugins directory. It also seems to
test if the viewer itself is executable and that is not the case on your
system.

I would first run these commands:

ldd /usr/bin/nspluginwrapper
ldd /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so
ldd /usr/lib/nspluginwrapper/i386/linux/npviewer.bin

Maybe that will turn up a missing library.

Also, just to be sure, check if your running kernel supports 32-bit ELF
executables:

$ egrep 'ELF|IA32' /boot/config-$(uname -r)
CONFIG_ELF_CORE=y
CONFIG_BINFMT_ELF=y
CONFIG_IA32_EMULATION=y
CONFIG_IA32_AOUT=y

Finally, you could try to run

nspluginwrapper -v -n -i /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so

and hope that the verbose mode provides additional clues.

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Re: Debian may lose a user

2007-09-29 Thread Kevin Mark
On Sat, Sep 29, 2007 at 10:30:29AM -0400, Chris Bannister wrote:
 On Tue, Sep 25, 2007 at 11:12:02PM -0400, Kevin Mark wrote:
  more likely to give better reports if asked by a nice dd. But since its
  not 'policy', its not something that is required. There is the obvious
  situation where DD have real lives and can not respond to every user,
 
 Apparently policy does not list requirements but best practices. IOW
 policy is not (supposed to be(?)) used to enforce behaviour.
 
 Please correct my statement(s) if I am off target.
 
That is why I used the quotes ('policy' vs policy).
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Re: bittorent thru a proxy

2007-09-29 Thread abdelkader belahcene
thanks for reply,
I did it, it works with jidgo but not with bittorent, so it is an
application  problem and not a system problem.

thanks
bela

On 9/26/07, Wei Wang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Try
 export http_proxy=address
 or
 Click desktop/pereferences/network proxy

 On Tue, 2007-09-25 at 09:59 +0100, abdelkader belahcene wrote:
  Hi,
  I want to use gnome-btdownload, to download a bittorent cd.
  I works fine when there is no proxy.
  But I can't use it when there is   a proxy
  help please
  best regards




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Re: apt-get file:/; unloading kernel modules (2.6.18).

2007-09-29 Thread Vivek.M
 See the manpage of apt_preferences. (search for local
 site)

Hi, and thanks for helping out. It's not working :(
I tried:
Package: *
Pin: origin 
Pin-Priority: 1001

Also tried: Pin: origin

apt-cache policy xchat; prints a priority of 500 for both file and
http. I took a look at the apt-howto and then looked at the following
file:
/var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.us.debian.org_debian_dists_etch_main_binary-
i386_Packages

This file is supposed to contain:
 *Archive: stable
 Version: 2.2r3
 *Component: main
 *Origin: Debian
 *Label: Debian
 Architecture: i386

But the *'d info is missing.


I also took a look at this file:
/var/lib/apt/lists/_usr_share_debian_disc1_dists_etch_main_binary-
i386_Packages

It has only this info:

Package: adduser
Priority: important
Section: admin
Installed-Size: 900
Maintainer: Debian Adduser Developers adduser-
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Architecture: all
Version: 3.102

Note that this meta-data lacks an information regarding origin (http/
file/ftp) is missing? Since, Pin: release/origin need to be fed
parameters (Label, Archive, Origin) to filter on, i guess that
is the reason why it doesn't work??


 See blacklist in the manpage of modprobe.conf. Sometimes  it can be 
 necessary to use install MODULENAME /bin/true  in addition to the 
 blacklisting.

This didn't work either :(

darkstar cat /etc/modprobe.d/blockedMods
install fan   /bin/true
install thermal   /bin/true
install processor /bin/true

Also, contents of: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist

blacklist fan
blacklist thermal
blacklist processor


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unable to install mysql (lamp) (post-installation script returned error exit status 1)

2007-09-29 Thread Jabka Atu
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package: mysql-server

version: 5.0.45-1

Hello,...


debian lenny lest update (29.9.2007 12:00 GMT).

when working on this howto :
http://linux.justinhartman.com/Setting_up_a_LAMP_Server


i did :


apt-get update

apt-get install apache2 php5 libapache2-mod-php5 mysql-server
mysql-client php5-mysql phpmyadmin


acerium:/# apt-get install apache2 php5 libapache2-mod-php5
mysql-server mysql-client php5-mysql phpmyadmin
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer
required:
  apache-common
Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
The following extra packages will be installed:
  libmcrypt4 php5-common php5-mcrypt
Suggested packages:
  php-pear libmcrypt-dev mcrypt
Recommended packages:
  php5-gd php4-gd
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  libapache2-mod-php4
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  apache2 libapache2-mod-php5 libmcrypt4 mysql-client mysql-server php5
  php5-common php5-mcrypt php5-mysql phpmyadmin
0 upgraded, 10 newly installed, 1 to remove and 305 not upgraded.
1 not fully installed or removed.
Need to get 5948kB/6086kB of archives.
After unpacking 14.9MB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]? Y
Get:1 http://mirror.isoc.org.il testing/main php5-common 5.2.3-1+b1
[234kB]
Get:2 http://mirror.isoc.org.il testing/main libapache2-mod-php5
5.2.3-1+b1 [2663kB]
Get:3 http://mirror.isoc.org.il testing/main libmcrypt4 2.5.7-5 [86.7kB]
Get:4 http://mirror.isoc.org.il testing/main php5 5.2.3-1 [1034B]
Get:5 http://mirror.isoc.org.il testing/main php5-mcrypt 5.2.3-1+b1
[13.8kB]
Get:6 http://mirror.isoc.org.il testing/main php5-mysql 5.2.3-1+b1
[73.4kB]
Get:7 http://mirror.isoc.org.il testing/main phpmyadmin 4:2.11.0-1
[2875kB]
Fetched 5948kB in 44s (134kB/s)
Preconfiguring packages ...
(Reading database ... 197242 files and directories currently installed.)
Removing libapache2-mod-php4 ...
Module php4 does not exist!
Selecting previously deselected package apache2.
(Reading database ... 197239 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking apache2 (from .../apache2_2.2.4-3_all.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package php5-common.
Unpacking php5-common (from .../php5-common_5.2.3-1+b1_amd64.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package libapache2-mod-php5.
Unpacking libapache2-mod-php5 (from
.../libapache2-mod-php5_5.2.3-1+b1_amd64.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package libmcrypt4.
Unpacking libmcrypt4 (from .../libmcrypt4_2.5.7-5_amd64.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package mysql-client.
Unpacking mysql-client (from .../mysql-client_5.0.45-1_all.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package mysql-server.
Unpacking mysql-server (from .../mysql-server_5.0.45-1_all.deb) ...
Stopping MySQL database server: mysqld.
Selecting previously deselected package php5.
Unpacking php5 (from .../archives/php5_5.2.3-1_all.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package php5-mcrypt.
Unpacking php5-mcrypt (from .../php5-mcrypt_5.2.3-1+b1_amd64.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package php5-mysql.
Unpacking php5-mysql (from .../php5-mysql_5.2.3-1+b1_amd64.deb) ...
Selecting previously deselected package phpmyadmin.
Unpacking phpmyadmin (from .../phpmyadmin_4%3a2.11.0-1_all.deb) ...
Setting up mysql-server-5.0 (5.0.45-1) ...
Stopping MySQL database server: mysqld.
Starting MySQL database server: mysqld . . . . . . . . . . . . . . failed!
invoke-rc.d: initscript mysql, action start failed.
dpkg: error processing mysql-server-5.0 (--configure):
 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
Setting up apache2 (2.2.4-3) ...
Setting up php5-common (5.2.3-1+b1) ...
Setting up libapache2-mod-php5 (5.2.3-1+b1) ...
Replacing config file /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini with new version

Setting up libmcrypt4 (2.5.7-5) ...

Setting up mysql-client (5.0.45-1) ...
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of mysql-server:
 mysql-server depends on mysql-server-5.0; however:
  Package mysql-server-5.0 is not configured yet.
dpkg: error processing mysql-server (--configure):
 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
Setting up php5 (5.2.3-1) ...
Setting up php5-mcrypt (5.2.3-1+b1) ...

Setting up php5-mysql (5.2.3-1+b1) ...

Setting up phpmyadmin (4:2.11.0-1) ...
Reloading web server config: apache2invoke-rc.d: unknown initscript,
/etc/init.d/apache not found.
invoke-rc.d: unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/apache-ssl not found.
invoke-rc.d: unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/apache-perl not found.

Errors were encountered while processing:
 mysql-server-5.0
 mysql-server
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)


I don't if it is a bug or iam doing some thing wrong ...



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Mobo+CPU suggestions request

2007-09-29 Thread Jesus Arocho
I want to build a box to use with Musix and debian.  Reccomendations for an 
inexpensive 64 bit (100 to 200US) combos?

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how to use man in packages ?

2007-09-29 Thread Jabka Atu
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Hello ,...


im working on smser package (on
http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/s/smser)


i started to use the normal rules file (auto genrated).


after that i started to get errors with man file:

lintian told me that there is no man file (but there is as you can see).


also why does the noraml rule file don't deleate the stamp files ?


P.s

ill be glad to get any relvent comments on this prog .

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Debian with Wireless

2007-09-29 Thread Dennis
When will there be a distro available that will include the setting up
of wireless networks, for those that want the setup in their laptops?  I
have a laptop, and so far the only one that allows me to setup wireless
as I install, is Ubuntu.  I begin to tell you how much I dislike Ubuntu.

Thank you


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Re: Num Lock nor Caps Lock LEDs working in Sid

2007-09-29 Thread Nate Bargmann
Here is the Free desktop.org thread decrying these issues we've
noticed.  Seems the LED issue has been known for months.  :-(

http://lists.freedesktop.org/pipermail/xorg/2007-September/028659.html

- Nate 

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Re: iceweasel freezing X

2007-09-29 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sat, Sep 29, 2007 at 06:32:12AM -0300, Attilio Cucchieri wrote:
 
 Note: it is only the X session that gets frozen. When this happens,
 I can still connect to the machines from another PC and work
 on it.

Maybe you can find some clues in top.

HTH,
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Re: Num Lock nor Caps Lock LEDs working in Sid

2007-09-29 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, Sep 29, 2007 at 09:05:42AM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote:
 Here is the Free desktop.org thread decrying these issues we've
 noticed.  Seems the LED issue has been known for months.  :-(
 
 http://lists.freedesktop.org/pipermail/xorg/2007-September/028659.html
 

the upside to debian's perceived slowness in upgrading...

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Re: unable to install mysql (lamp) (post-installation script returned error exit status 1)

2007-09-29 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, Sep 29, 2007 at 02:47:23PM +0200, Jabka Atu wrote:
 package: mysql-server
 
 version: 5.0.45-1
 

...copious apt output...

 Setting up mysql-server-5.0 (5.0.45-1) ...
 Stopping MySQL database server: mysqld.
 Starting MySQL database server: mysqld . . . . . . . . . . . . . . failed!
 invoke-rc.d: initscript mysql, action start failed.
 dpkg: error processing mysql-server-5.0 (--configure):
  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1


the problem is self-explanatory. The service failed to start which
propogated an error. You should investigate why it failed to
start. Perhaps look at some log files. perhaps try it manually, etc
etc.


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Re: hp psc driver question

2007-09-29 Thread steef

Andrew Sackville-West wrote:

On Fri, Sep 28, 2007 at 10:01:37AM +0200, steef wrote:
  

Andrew Sackville-West wrote:


On Thu, Sep 27, 2007 at 11:53:44AM +0200, steef wrote:
  
  

hi,

cups gives a driver for the hp-printer psc (all in one) 2500. does 
anybody know if this driver works also for the hp psc 2575?



according to:

http://hplip.sourceforge.net/supported_devices/inkjet_aio.html

its not (not listed) but since all the listed PSC's are supported as
of version .9.5 and sid's got 1.6.blah I think you're good to go. 
Note that google provides several hits that claim this printer works
as well. 
A
  
  
...thanks [again] andrew. yes, i saw the annotations via google, and, under 
suse 10 (i use debian!) the machine seems to be supported by the same hplip 
version as under etch (which i am using as production machine). so: taken 
together with your advice i am convinced and will buy the hp psc2575 within 
the hour (it's morning here)..



note that I'm not responsible if it doesn't work ;-) 


let us know!

A
  

hi andrew and others possibly intersted:

the hp psc2575 printer works excellent under etch with the 
hplip-driverpackage.


regards,

steef


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Re: efficiency of windows managers

2007-09-29 Thread s. keeling
Pál Csányi [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  What about stumpwm?
 
  http://www.nongnu.org/stumpwm/
 
  Use this window manager somebody on Debian Etch?

You could (aptitude search):

p   stumpwm - a Common Lisp window manager

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Re: efficiency of windows managers

2007-09-29 Thread cothrige
Pál Csányi [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 What about stumpwm?

 http://www.nongnu.org/stumpwm/

 Use this window manager somebody on Debian Etch?

Yes, I have it installed using etch, and like it very much.  Though it
was kind of hard to get going. You may have already set it up, but just
in case you have not, of in case somebody else is trying, I will briefly
mention what I found worked.  It may help somebody out there.

Firstly, I never got the Debian version working at all.  I am sure I
goofed it up, but I just couldn't find a way to make it start.  The docs
didn't seem to offer anything useful at all either.  In the end I used
the CVS version of stumpwm.  It has a real README which actually has
decent instructions.  By following them I had a working executable in
just a couple of minutes.  However, sbcl from Debian also does not work
right, and under any kind of load the entire system becomes uselessly
unresponsive.  I removed the SBCL installed via apt, and recompiled it
from source.  Then I installed clx using asdf (require 'asdf) (require
'asdf-install) (asdf-install:install 'clx) and recompiled stump.  This
worked fine, though the final product tends not to be very lightweight.

I was also able to get stump with clisp working, though in the end it
was less than reliable.  The up-side though is that it is much, much
lighter than sbcl.  Again, I could not get the clisp I installed via apt
to work, and had to compile from source.  It failed again and again to
work with stump though, until I tried CVS on that too.  I also had to
use new-clx instead of mit-clx.  Unfortunately, even after getting it to
work it crashes X fairly regularly (anytime certain dialog boxes are
used, such as print or downloads) and so is rather less than useful.
Really too bad as I was much impressed with its generally faster,
lighter feel than stump with sbcl.

But, I did get sbcl going okay, and with it stump seems solid and
usable.  It is fast overall, and certainly has the nice feel of
ratpoison, with the bonus of a mode-line.  And even though it is not
terribly lightweight considering the sparsity of the thing I still think
it is an excellent choice for a tiling WM.

However, as much as I liked it, xmonad (http://xmonad.org/) was even
more pleasing than everything else.  It also took a little work to get
going, though nothing like stump, but it was worth it in the end.  It is
unbelievably light and fast and even seems smaller than ratpoison.  And
dzen2, a separate app, as a status-bar is much more full-featured than
stump's, and seems about as good as what ion has.  Additionally, it
handles transient windows much more realistically than does stump or
ratpoison.  With it you can also grab the window and resize it making
that window a floating one rather than tiling, all without the hoops you
seemingly had to jump through with ion3 to do the same thing.  Without a
doubt, xmonad with dzen has been the most satisfying and simple approach
I have yet tried in the window manager market.

Patrick



Re: syslog recommendations?

2007-09-29 Thread Michael Shuler
On 09/28/2007 11:29 PM, Rogelio Bastardo wrote:
 I'm looking for a few F/OSS syslog programs -- one easy to use (sort of
 like Kiwi syslog) and another that's much more scalable and would let
 me, say, aggregate logs from lots of different boxes and maybe even do
 other sorts of cool things (find patterns, etc).

I am not aware of a single package that will do all that you want, but a
combination of a few packages should get you there.  I use syslog-ng for
aggregating logs from many servers, and I think it far surpasses the
standard udp syslog daemon for reliability.  Running logcheck and/or
logtool on the syslog server to parse the raw logs will get you pattern
matching and various reporting possibilities.

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Re: Debian may lose a user

2007-09-29 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 10:30:29 -0400, Chris Bannister [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: 

 On Tue, Sep 25, 2007 at 11:12:02PM -0400, Kevin Mark wrote:
 more likely to give better reports if asked by a nice dd. But since
 its not 'policy', its not something that is required. There is the
 obvious situation where DD have real lives and can not respond to
 every user,

 Apparently policy does not list requirements but best practices. IOW
 policy is not (supposed to be(?)) used to enforce behaviour.

No, Policy must directives are things package must comply
 with, or they are thrown out of the release (unless release managers
 offer dispensation).

However, policy _changes_ tend to be conservative, and policy is
 not where you do design and tinkering. So  new stuff needs to be
 tested, and deployed, and  _then_ policy changes.  Policy also does not
 tend to change rapidly and make gazillions of packages instantly
 buggy.

 Please correct my statement(s) if I am off target.

You are.

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Re: udev and automounting

2007-09-29 Thread Max Hyre

Andrei Popescu wrote:

The package usbmount might be what you need.


   The description of usbmount says:

This package automatically mounts USB mass
storage devices (typically  USB pens) when they
are plugged in, and unmounts them when they are
removed.

   Does this limit filesystems to FAT?  FAT doesn't care if 
you rip it out without doing any cleanup.  If you've 
formatted your thumbdrive as an ext2 filesystem, how can it 
be properly unmounted if you simply unplug it?  Won't that 
mean you have to run fsck every time you plug it in again?



Best wishes,

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Re: unable to install mysql (lamp) (post-installation script returned error exit status 1)

2007-09-29 Thread Jabka Atu
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Andrew Sackville-West wrote:

 On Sat, Sep 29, 2007 at 02:47:23PM +0200, Jabka Atu wrote:
 package: mysql-server

 version: 5.0.45-1


 ...copious apt output...

 Setting up mysql-server-5.0 (5.0.45-1) ... Stopping MySQL
 database server: mysqld. Starting MySQL database server: mysqld .
 . . . . . . . . . . . . . failed! invoke-rc.d: initscript mysql,
 action start failed. dpkg: error processing mysql-server-5.0
 (--configure): subprocess post-installation script returned error
 exit status 1


 the problem is self-explanatory. The service failed to start which
 propogated an error. You should investigate why it failed to start.
 Perhaps look at some log files. perhaps try it manually, etc etc.

ok i tried running it manualy :
acerium:/# /etc/init.d/mysql start
Starting MySQL database server: mysqld . . . . . . . . . . . . . . failed!

dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server
/usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: mysql-server is broken or not fully installed

apt-get install mysql-server
.
.
.
.

Starting MySQL database server: mysqld . . . . .dpkg: error processing
mysql-server-5.0 (--configure):
 subprocess post-installation script killed by signal (Interrupt)
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of mysql-server:
 mysql-server depends on mysql-server-5.0; however:
  Package mysql-server-5.0 is not configured yet.
dpkg: error processing mysql-server (--configure):   


ok install mysql-server-5.0 ?

acerium:/# apt-get install mysql-server-5.0
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
mysql-server-5.0 is already the newest version.
mysql-server-5.0 set to manual installed.
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 305 not upgraded.
2 not fully installed or removed.
Need to get 0B of archives.
After unpacking 0B of additional disk space will be used.
Setting up mysql-server-5.0 (5.0.45-1) ...
Stopping MySQL database server: mysqld.

invoke-rc.d: initscript mysql, action start failed.
dpkg: error processing mysql-server-5.0 (--configure):
 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of mysql-server:
 mysql-server depends on mysql-server-5.0; however:
  Package mysql-server-5.0 is not configured yet.
dpkg: error processing mysql-server (--configure):
 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
Errors were encountered while processing:
 mysql-server-5.0
 mysql-server

wtf ?

acerium:/# apt-cache policy mysql-server
mysql-server:
  Installed: 5.0.45-1
  Candidate: 5.0.45-1
  Version table:
 *** 5.0.45-1 0
500 http://mirror.isoc.org.il testing/main Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
acerium:/# apt-cache policy mysql-server-5.0
mysql-server-5.0:
  Installed: 5.0.45-1
  Candidate: 5.0.45-1
  Version table:
 *** 5.0.45-1 0
500 http://mirror.isoc.org.il testing/main Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status







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Re: Debian may lose a user

2007-09-29 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 07:44:58 -0400, Kevin Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: 

 On Sat, Sep 29, 2007 at 10:30:29AM -0400, Chris Bannister wrote:
 On Tue, Sep 25, 2007 at 11:12:02PM -0400, Kevin Mark wrote:
  more likely to give better reports if asked by a nice dd. But since
  its not 'policy', its not something that is required. There is the
  obvious situation where DD have real lives and can not respond to
  every user,
 
 Apparently policy does not list requirements but best practices. IOW
 policy is not (supposed to be(?)) used to enforce behaviour.
 
 Please correct my statement(s) if I am off target.
 
 That is why I used the quotes ('policy' vs policy).

Hmm. I wondered why kevin was saying this, since he is generally
 clued in, and knows policy is to be followed. The distinction is that
 Debian technical policy, the entity Chris is referring to (I presume),
 does not govern people. It governs technical aspects of  packaging
 Debian software, so it has no jurisdiction in how reports are responded
 to.

Sorry if my previous mail was confusing.

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Re: apt-get file:/; unloading kernel modules (2.6.18).

2007-09-29 Thread Vivek.M
Update: This works:
Package: *
Pin: origin http.us.debian.org
Pin-Priority: 100

But, this does not work:
Package: *
Pin: origin
Pin-Priority: 100

I did not run dpkg-scanpackages. Instead i mounted my iso images via
loop, and put this in source.list.
deb file:/usr/share/debian/pkg/disc1/ etch contrib main


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Env var on the fly

2007-09-29 Thread Francesco Pietra
Having defined (in my .bashrc) the environmental variables for computing suites
X and Y (PATH to them) it happens - because of some bug in X - that on running
certain programs of Y, executables of X are called (and of course not found).

If I undefine the env var X, all programs of Y run perfectly.

Is any simple way to define the env var X on the fly, when X is needed, without
having to use X as another user? (which would overcomplicate the matter because
there is an scp link from the computing machine to and from a desktop, where I
am).

debian linux amd64 etch on the computing machine, where my .bashrc. deain linux
i386 etch on the desktop.

Thanks 
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Re: soekris net5501 and vpn14[01]1

2007-09-29 Thread Martin Marcher
2007/9/29, Kevin Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 On Sat, Sep 29, 2007 at 12:31:06AM +0200, Martin Marcher wrote:
  Hello,
 
  Is the mentioned vpn card[1] ready to use in the stock debian kernel,
  and (this is something in found in several openbsd mailing lists) will
  openssl/gnutls use it's capabilities or would that be lost money?
 
  thanks for your input
 
  [1] http://www.soekris.com/vpn1401.htm

 http://pyramid.metrix.net/trac/wiki/FrequentlyAskedQuestions

Interesting distribution, but neither the soekris net5501 nor any of
the vpn cards are mentioned there.

Also the task of this distribution isn't in any way related to what
I'd like to build. I'm not working on a router, or borderline box for
a network.

Which of the FAQ point should be related to my questions?

thanks
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Re: udev and automounting

2007-09-29 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, Sep 29, 2007 at 11:27:35AM -0400, Max Hyre wrote:
 Andrei Popescu wrote:
 The package usbmount might be what you need.

The description of usbmount says:

   This package automatically mounts USB mass
   storage devices (typically  USB pens) when they
   are plugged in, and unmounts them when they are
   removed.

Does this limit filesystems to FAT?  FAT doesn't care if you rip it out 
 without doing any cleanup.  If you've formatted your thumbdrive as an ext2 
 filesystem, how can it be properly unmounted if you simply unplug it?  
 Won't that mean you have to run fsck every time you plug it in again?

maybe mount with sync instead of async, though mount warns of
life-shortening possibilities with flash stuff. probably a good idea
to go for noatime also to help coutneract that. Both of those would
minimise the risk of damage -- so long as the current process was
done, you could pull it. that just a guess. check man mount.



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Re: Env var on the fly

2007-09-29 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, Sep 29, 2007 at 08:23:59AM -0700, Francesco Pietra wrote:
 Having defined (in my .bashrc) the environmental variables for computing 
 suites
 X and Y (PATH to them) it happens - because of some bug in X - that on running
 certain programs of Y, executables of X are called (and of course not found).
 
 If I undefine the env var X, all programs of Y run perfectly.
 
 Is any simple way to define the env var X on the fly, when X is needed, 
 without
 having to use X as another user? (which would overcomplicate the matter 
 because
 there is an scp link from the computing machine to and from a desktop, where I
 am).

export X=blah

or do you need it to happen automatically? in which case your
application needs to do this. 

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how to get keyboard layout with symbols

2007-09-29 Thread H.S.
Hello,

How do I export the current keyboard layout to a file (eps preferably)
with symbols?

I am trying with Indic layouts (IN) with the following command:
$ xkbprint -eps -label symbols   :0 -o ~/tmp/kb.eps

But the labels of the keys in the eps file I get are the Unicode codes
for the keys, I get no symbols. What am I missing? For the US keyboard
layout, however, I get the symbols. This is on Debian Testing.

thanks,
-HS


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Re: unable to install mysql (lamp) (post-installation script returned error exit status 1)

2007-09-29 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, Sep 29, 2007 at 05:28:54PM +0200, Jabka Atu wrote:
 Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
 
  On Sat, Sep 29, 2007 at 02:47:23PM +0200, Jabka Atu wrote:
  package: mysql-server
 
  version: 5.0.45-1
 
 
  ...copious apt output...
 
  Setting up mysql-server-5.0 (5.0.45-1) ... Stopping MySQL
  database server: mysqld. Starting MySQL database server: mysqld .
  . . . . . . . . . . . . . failed! invoke-rc.d: initscript mysql,
  action start failed. dpkg: error processing mysql-server-5.0
  (--configure): subprocess post-installation script returned error
  exit status 1
 
 
  the problem is self-explanatory. The service failed to start which
  propogated an error. You should investigate why it failed to start.
  Perhaps look at some log files. perhaps try it manually, etc etc.
 
 ok i tried running it manualy :
 acerium:/# /etc/init.d/mysql start
 Starting MySQL database server: mysqld . . . . . . . . . . . . . . failed!

why does it fail to start? have you looked at any of the relevant
logs? Frankly I don't have much experience with mysql, but the reason
you are getting apt errors is because it fails to start. I suppose the
information apt is giving you is a little mis-leading because it has
appaerntly completed all its installation tasks except for restarting
the server. The fact that the server failed to restart is generating
the error in apt. So, you need to figure out why its not starting. 

No permutation of apt/dpkg stuff will solve this problem except
perhaps removing and reinstalling it. 

If I had this problem, I would stop messing with apt/dpkg and start
figuring out why its not starting. Read the logs. start it from a
command line directly instead of the init-script. figure out how to
turn up the verbosity. etc etc etc. Once you get it to start, then you
can re-run the apt commands and it will clear out just fine. 


 
 acerium:/# apt-cache policy mysql-server
 mysql-server:
   Installed: 5.0.45-1
   Candidate: 5.0.45-1
   Version table:
  *** 5.0.45-1 0
 500 http://mirror.isoc.org.il testing/main Packages
 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
 acerium:/# apt-cache policy mysql-server-5.0
 mysql-server-5.0:
   Installed: 5.0.45-1
   Candidate: 5.0.45-1
   Version table:
  *** 5.0.45-1 0
 500 http://mirror.isoc.org.il testing/main Packages
 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
 
 

you are running testing. It is entirely possible that there is a bug
that is preventing mysqld from starting. It might be worth your while
to search BTS and see if anything applies. 

But, to restate. Apt is failing because the service won't restart. If
you can make the service start, then apt will no longer fail.

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Re: Nspluginwrapper on AMD64

2007-09-29 Thread Sridhar M.A.
On Sat, Sep 29, 2007 at 01:01:41PM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote:

Also, just to be sure, check if your running kernel supports 32-bit ELF
executables:

$ egrep 'ELF|IA32' /boot/config-$(uname -r)
CONFIG_ELF_CORE=y
CONFIG_BINFMT_ELF=y
CONFIG_IA32_EMULATION=y
CONFIG_IA32_AOUT=y

Thanks. That was the problem. Recompiled my kernel and flash is working
now. 

Regards,

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entropy gathering module

2007-09-29 Thread John K Masters
Just configured a new VPS and when I try to get mail for the user (as
opposed to root) I get 'no entropy gathering module detected' as a fatal
error. If I run 'mail' as root there are no errors (and no mail)

I've googled for this but the few results yeild no solutions except to
point to a permissions problem, but no solution.

Can anyone help?

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Re: syslog recommendations?

2007-09-29 Thread s. keeling
Michael Shuler [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  On 09/28/2007 11:29 PM, Rogelio Bastardo wrote:
  I'm looking for a few F/OSS syslog programs -- one easy to use (sort of
  like Kiwi syslog) and another that's much more scalable and would let
  me, say, aggregate logs from lots of different boxes and maybe even do
  other sorts of cool things (find patterns, etc).
 
  I am not aware of a single package that will do all that you want, but a
  combination of a few packages should get you there.  I use syslog-ng for
  aggregating logs from many servers, and I think it far surpasses the
  standard udp syslog daemon for reliability.  Running logcheck and/or

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Re: efficiency of windows managers

2007-09-29 Thread Pál Csányi
Hello Patrick!

2007/9/29, cothrige [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Pál Csányi [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  What about stumpwm?
 
  http://www.nongnu.org/stumpwm/
 
  Use this window manager somebody on Debian Etch?

 Yes, I have it installed using etch, and like it very much.  Though it
 was kind of hard to get going. You may have already set it up, but just
 in case you have not, of in case somebody else is trying, I will briefly
 mention what I found worked.  It may help somebody out there.

No, I have not set it up.  :(
Thank you for help! :)

 Firstly, I never got the Debian version working at all.  I am sure I ...
 the CVS version of stumpwm.  It has a real README which actually has
 decent instructions.  By following them I had a working executable in
 just a couple of minutes.  However, sbcl from Debian also does not work
 right, and under any kind of load the entire system becomes uselessly
 unresponsive.  I removed the SBCL installed via apt, and recompiled it
 from source.  Then I installed clx using asdf (require 'asdf) (require
 'asdf-install) (asdf-install:install 'clx) and recompiled stump.  This
 worked fine, though the final product tends not to be very lightweight.

The debian stumpwm package dependency are: sbcl cl-clx-sbcl.

Would you please give for us the step by step advices how to install
from CVS stumpwm?

Just in any case, if you have stumpwm installed from CVS on Debian,
how can you uninstall (purge) it? (For case if the Debian stumpwm
package come usable.)

 But, I did get sbcl going okay, and with it stump seems solid and
 usable.  It is fast overall, and certainly has the nice feel of
 ratpoison, with the bonus of a mode-line.  And even though it is not
 terribly lightweight considering the sparsity of the thing I still think
 it is an excellent choice for a tiling WM.

I wish to try it out! :)

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RE: unable to install mysql (lamp) (post-installation script returned error exit status 1)

2007-09-29 Thread Jabka Atu
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acerium:/var/log# less syslog
acerium:/var/log# cat syslog|grep 18:3
Sep 29 18:34:27 acerium mysqld_safe[16477]: PLEASE REMEMBER TO SET A
PASSWORD FOR THE MySQL root USER !
Sep 29 18:34:27 acerium mysqld_safe[16477]: To do so, start the
server, then issue the following commands:
Sep 29 18:34:27 acerium mysqld_safe[16477]: /usr/bin/mysqladmin -u
root password 'new-password'
Sep 29 18:34:27 acerium mysqld_safe[16477]: /usr/bin/mysqladmin -u
root -h acerium password 'new-password'
Sep 29 18:34:27 acerium mysqld_safe[16477]: See the manual for more
instructions.
Sep 29 18:34:27 acerium mysqld_safe[16477]: Please report any problems
with the /usr/bin/mysqlbug script!
Sep 29 18:34:27 acerium mysqld_safe[16477]:
Sep 29 18:34:27 acerium mysqld_safe[16477]: The latest information
about MySQL is available on the web at
Sep 29 18:34:27 acerium mysqld_safe[16477]: http://www.mysql.com
Sep 29 18:34:27 acerium mysqld_safe[16477]: Support MySQL by buying
support/licenses at http://shop.mysql.com
Sep 29 18:34:28 acerium mysqld_safe[16542]: ERROR: 1046  No database
selected
Sep 29 18:34:28 acerium mysqld_safe[16542]: 070929 18:34:28 [ERROR]
Aborting
Sep 29 18:34:28 acerium mysqld_safe[16542]:
Sep 29 18:34:28 acerium mysqld_safe[16542]: 070929 18:34:28 [Note]
/usr/sbin/mysqld: Shutdown complete
Sep 29 18:34:28 acerium mysqld_safe[16542]:
Sep 29 18:34:28 acerium mysqld_safe[16625]: started
Sep 29 18:34:28 acerium mysqld[16628]: InnoDB: The first specified
data file ./ibdata1 did not exist:
Sep 29 18:34:28 acerium mysqld[16628]: InnoDB: a new database to be
created!
Sep 29 18:34:28 acerium mysqld[16628]: 070929 18:34:28  InnoDB:
Setting file ./ibdata1 size to 10 MB
Sep 29 18:34:28 acerium mysqld[16628]: InnoDB: Database physically
writes the file full: wait...
Sep 29 18:34:29 acerium mysqld[16628]: 070929 18:34:29  InnoDB: Log
file ./ib_logfile0 did not exist: new to be created
Sep 29 18:34:29 acerium mysqld[16628]: InnoDB: Setting log file
./ib_logfile0 size to 5 MB
Sep 29 18:34:29 acerium mysqld[16628]: InnoDB: Database physically
writes the file full: wait...
Sep 29 18:34:29 acerium mysqld[16628]: 070929 18:34:29  InnoDB: Log
file ./ib_logfile1 did not exist: new to be created
Sep 29 18:34:29 acerium mysqld[16628]: InnoDB: Setting log file
./ib_logfile1 size to 5 MB
Sep 29 18:34:29 acerium mysqld[16628]: InnoDB: Database physically
writes the file full: wait...
Sep 29 18:34:29 acerium mysqld[16628]: InnoDB: Doublewrite buffer not
found: creating new
Sep 29 18:34:30 acerium mysqld[16628]: InnoDB: Doublewrite buffer created
Sep 29 18:34:30 acerium mysqld[16628]: InnoDB: Creating foreign key
constraint system tables
Sep 29 18:34:30 acerium mysqld[16628]: InnoDB: Foreign key constraint
system tables created
Sep 29 18:34:30 acerium mysqld[16628]: 070929 18:34:30  InnoDB:
Started; log sequence number 0 0
Sep 29 18:34:30 acerium mysqld[16628]: 070929 18:34:30 [ERROR] Can't
start server: Bind on TCP/IP port: Cannot assign requested address
Sep 29 18:34:30 acerium mysqld[16628]: 070929 18:34:30 [ERROR] Do you
already have another mysqld server running on port: 3306 ?
Sep 29 18:34:30 acerium mysqld[16628]: 070929 18:34:30 [ERROR] Aborting
Sep 29 18:34:30 acerium mysqld[16628]:
Sep 29 18:34:30 acerium mysqld[16628]: 070929 18:34:30  InnoDB:
Starting shutdown...
Sep 29 18:34:32 acerium mysqld[16628]: 070929 18:34:32  InnoDB:
Shutdown completed; log sequence number 0 43655
Sep 29 18:34:32 acerium mysqld[16628]: 070929 18:34:32 [Note]
/usr/sbin/mysqld: Shutdown complete
Sep 29 18:34:32 acerium mysqld[16628]:
Sep 29 18:34:32 acerium mysqld_safe[16688]: ended
Sep 29 18:34:42 acerium /etc/init.d/mysql[16856]: 0 processes alive
and '/usr/bin/mysqladmin --defaults-file=/etc/mysql/debian.cnf ping'
resulted in
Sep 29 18:34:42 acerium /etc/init.d/mysql[16856]:
^G/usr/bin/mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed
Sep 29 18:34:42 acerium /etc/init.d/mysql[16856]: error: 'Can't
connect to local MySQL server through socket
'/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)'
Sep 29 18:34:42 acerium /etc/init.d/mysql[16856]: Check that mysqld is
running and that the socket: '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' exists!
Sep 29 18:34:42 acerium /etc/init.d/mysql[16856]:

-  Original Message 
Subject: [Fwd: unable to install mysql (lamp) (post-installation
script returned error exit status 1)]
Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2007 18:29:53 +0200
From: Jabka Atu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Im not sure but i guess it is related to this bug

-  Original Message 
Subject: unable to install mysql (lamp) (post-installation script
returned error exit status 1)
Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2007 14:47:23 +0200
From: Jabka Atu
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org



package: mysql-server

version: 5.0.45-1

Hello,...


debian lenny lest update (29.9.2007 12:00 GMT).

when working on this howto :
http://linux.justinhartman.com/Setting_up_a_LAMP_Server


i did :


apt-get update


Re: unable to install mysql (lamp) (post-installation script returned error exit status 1)

2007-09-29 Thread Jabka Atu
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I forgot to say that it was on clean install .
also found some usfull(?) info in syslog posted to bug (444107) couse
it is related .
anyone ?

Jabka Atu wrote:

 Andrew Sackville-West wrote:

 On Sat, Sep 29, 2007 at 02:47:23PM +0200, Jabka Atu wrote:
 package: mysql-server

 version: 5.0.45-1

 ...copious apt output...

 Setting up mysql-server-5.0 (5.0.45-1) ... Stopping MySQL
 database server: mysqld. Starting MySQL database server: mysqld
 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . failed! invoke-rc.d: initscript
 mysql, action start failed. dpkg: error processing
 mysql-server-5.0 (--configure): subprocess post-installation
 script returned error exit status 1

 the problem is self-explanatory. The service failed to start
 which propogated an error. You should investigate why it failed
 to start. Perhaps look at some log files. perhaps try it
 manually, etc etc.

 ok i tried running it manualy : acerium:/# /etc/init.d/mysql start
 Starting MySQL database server: mysqld . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
 failed!

 dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure:
 mysql-server is broken or not fully installed

 apt-get install mysql-server . . . .

 Starting MySQL database server: mysqld . . . . .dpkg: error
 processing mysql-server-5.0 (--configure): subprocess
 post-installation script killed by signal (Interrupt) dpkg:
 dependency problems prevent configuration of mysql-server:
 mysql-server depends on mysql-server-5.0; however: Package
 mysql-server-5.0 is not configured yet. dpkg: error processing
 mysql-server (--configure):


 ok install mysql-server-5.0 ?

 acerium:/# apt-get install mysql-server-5.0 Reading package
 lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information...
 Done mysql-server-5.0 is already the newest version.
 mysql-server-5.0 set to manual installed. 0 upgraded, 0 newly
 installed, 0 to remove and 305 not upgraded. 2 not fully installed
 or removed. Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B of
 additional disk space will be used. Setting up mysql-server-5.0
 (5.0.45-1) ... Stopping MySQL database server: mysqld.

 invoke-rc.d: initscript mysql, action start failed. dpkg: error
 processing mysql-server-5.0 (--configure): subprocess
 post-installation script returned error exit status 1 dpkg:
 dependency problems prevent configuration of mysql-server:
 mysql-server depends on mysql-server-5.0; however: Package
 mysql-server-5.0 is not configured yet. dpkg: error processing
 mysql-server (--configure): dependency problems - leaving
 unconfigured Errors were encountered while processing:
 mysql-server-5.0 mysql-server

 wtf ?

 acerium:/# apt-cache policy mysql-server mysql-server: Installed:
 5.0.45-1 Candidate: 5.0.45-1 Version table: *** 5.0.45-1 0 500
 http://mirror.isoc.org.il testing/main Packages 100
 /var/lib/dpkg/status acerium:/# apt-cache policy mysql-server-5.0
 mysql-server-5.0: Installed: 5.0.45-1 Candidate: 5.0.45-1 Version
 table: *** 5.0.45-1 0 500 http://mirror.isoc.org.il testing/main
 Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status






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should a package compile on installation ?

2007-09-29 Thread Jabka Atu
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Hello ,..


im thinkg about giving a package the abuilty to download and compile
the last source is it wise ?

since i don't know how to create sevral arch binary package
(amd64,i386,etc .. ).

and the auther is releasing relvtly fast (on svn) updates


the compile time isn't so big (the program is some where around 1k
lines of code) and it is one source file .


so i thought about downloading from svn and compiling each time .


p.s.

also adding sevral dependencies like : gcc ,make ,kernel-hedares

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Re: Does lilo still have a limit on it's menu entries?

2007-09-29 Thread Nigel Henry
On Saturday 29 September 2007 01:54, C. G. Montgomery wrote:
 In linux.debian.user Nigel Henry wrote:
  I read a while back that earlier versions of lilo could only have 6
  entries on the menu. My lilo version is 1:22.6.1-9.3.

 I think it may not be a limit on the number of lilo entries.  Not long
 ago, an upgrade to 2.6.21-2-k7 was done on a machine of mine.  This put
 the initrd.img, System.map, and vmlinuz files into /boot but didn't
 change lilo.conf.  In fact I decided to stay with the kernel I had been
 using, so it's just waiting there.  I don't know whether grub is handled
 differently.

I had the same when I installed the 2.6.18-5-686 kernel. The files were 
in /boot, but /etc/lilo.conf hadn't been updated, therefore running lilo did 
nothing. I commented out the stanzas for the bf2 kernel, and added the 
stanzas for the new 2.6.18-5 one, ran lilo, and now it's on lilo's menu.

The reason I asked about the 6 menu items limit was because I seem to remember 
that during the adding of new kernels previously, that apt-get would prompt 
you for lilo, mentioning something about the boot block, and if you wanted to 
run lilo, and install it in the MBR. Now my lilo's arn't in the MBR, but in 
the / partition for my 2 Debian installs on this drive. Grub for FC2 is in 
the MBR, as it is the 1st Linux install on the drive. Not wishing Grub to be 
replaced, I said no to the apt-get yes/no request, and ran lilo after the 
install had completed. Now that I've effectively removed the references to 
the bf2 kernel I may remove this latest kernel, and try reinstalling it, just 
to see if I get this prompt for lilo with apt-get.

Regarding Grub. At least on Fedora it works fine, and all kernel updates are 
added to it's menu. You can add as many kernels as you like. I suspect after 
a while you get a scroll bar to look through them. Saying that though, with 
fedora I also use Apt, but if you use Yum, which is the default package 
manager on Fedora, it only keeps 2 kernels as default, but you can change 
that behaviour so that all kernels are saved. Personally I think it's best 
that all kernels are saved, then you can decide which ones are no longer 
required.

  The original kernel when I installed Woody 3.0r2 was a bf one. It is
  still listed in /boot, and on lilo's menu. but is nowhere to be seen in
  synaptic, and no longer will boot with Etch. On the face of it, I can't
  see how to remove this original boot floppy kernel.
 
  Can I just delete all references to the 2.4.18-bf2.4 kernel in /boot?
  Then run lilo again. It seems a bit of a hack, but I can't see any way
  around it as synaptic doesn't even list the bf kernel, and you can't
  uninstall something that's not on the list.

 Yes, I've done just that to get rid of old kernels.  Just edit lilo.conf
 to include only the stanzas you want and run lilo.

As I mention above I commented out the stanzas for the bf2 in /etc/lilo.conf, 
and renamed the bf2 files in /boot. I'll clean that up later on as everything 
appears to be working ok now.

 hth   cgm

Thanks for your reply.

Nigel.


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Re: How to reduce pdf file size with open source software?

2007-09-29 Thread Amit Uttamchandani
Yes I think you are right. python-imaging is the package mac os x uses to 
resize images and pdf.

Thanks!

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Re: efficiency of windows managers

2007-09-29 Thread Amit Uttamchandani
 
 Where can I pass the -fn argument to xterm to set up font size, using dwm?

Edit your config.h file. There are mod keys defined for specific programs. Edit 
the arguments there.

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Spring clean

2007-09-29 Thread andy

Hi all

Even though it is now approaching fall/autumn (in the northern 
hemisphere anyway), I am wanting to do some spring cleaning of my hard 
drive. In my enthusiasm for Debian's apt-get I have gorged myself on a 
load of packages that I probably don't need. One example is multiple 
language versions of OOo, but there are likely others too.


Can someone recommend a newbie-friendly easy, and safe way of cleaning 
house so that I can retain those packages that I need (and want) but can 
clear out the dust bunnies, etc..?


Many thanks

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Re: Does lilo still have a limit on it's menu entries?

2007-09-29 Thread Nigel Henry
On Saturday 29 September 2007 05:04, Mumia W.. wrote:
 On 09/28/2007 03:18 PM, Nigel Henry wrote:
  All my Debian installs, Sarge, Etch, and Lenny, originally started off as
  Woody 3.0r2, and LiLo was, and still is the bootloader. I installed on
  Etch yesterday the 2.6.18-5 kernel, which shows up in /boot ok, but
  running lilo doesn't add it to lilo's menu.
 
  I read a while back that earlier versions of lilo could only have 6
  entries on the menu. My lilo version is 1:22.6.1-9.3.
 
  The original kernel when I installed Woody 3.0r2 was a bf one. It is
  still listed in /boot, and on lilo's menu. but is nowhere to be seen in
  synaptic, and no longer will boot with Etch. On the face of it, I can't
  see how to remove this original boot floppy kernel.
 
  Can I just delete all references to the 2.4.18-bf2.4 kernel in /boot?
  Then run lilo again. It seems a bit of a hack, but I can't see any way
  around it as synaptic doesn't even list the bf kernel, and you can't
  uninstall something that's not on the list.
 
  /etc/lilo.conf is below. [...]

 I have very little experience with Lilo under Debian, though I used it
 under Slackware.

I first encountered lilo on Mandrake 9.2, and must admit that I had terrible 
problems with both LiLo, and Grub when I first started off with Linux, and 
setting up dual, and triple boot installs. I've sort of got them under 
control now, but it wasn't much fun at the time. Now the bootloader for the 
first install goes in the MBR, and the bootloaders for the subsequent 
installs go in their respective / partitions. Then I boot up the first 
install and add chainloaders pointing to the / partitions of the other 
distros on the drive.

 I don't know about the six item limit, but I suggest you manually delete
 the references to the bf kernels, but read man liloconfig and man
 update-lilo first. If the bf kernels do not appear in /boot,
 update-lilo may remove them from /etc/lilo.conf automatically.

I've temporarily renamed the bf2 files in /boot, and commented out the stanzas 
for the bf2 kernel in /etc/lilo.conf, but am going to remove them completely 
as they are no longer useable on Etch.

 I also suggest that you remove, possibly using synaptic, any kernels
 that don't boot the system up properly.

I usually keep all kernels. Alright the ones that don't boot properly can go, 
but sometimes older, non udev ones, are usefull to keep if you are appearing 
to have problems with the udev ones. I constantly get problems with udev 
kernels and my TVcard /dev/video0, and the webcam /dev/video1. Very hit and 
miss as to which app gets which video device.

Someone on the list gave me some rules for udev, but they don't appear to be 
working. I'll have to start a new thread on that one.

Thanks for the reply.

Nigel.


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Re: syslog recommendations?

2007-09-29 Thread Martin Marcher
2007/9/29, s. keeling [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Michael Shuler [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
   On 09/28/2007 11:29 PM, Rogelio Bastardo wrote:
   I'm looking for a few F/OSS syslog programs -- one easy to use (sort of
   like Kiwi syslog) and another that's much more scalable and would let
   me, say, aggregate logs from lots of different boxes and maybe even do
   other sorts of cool things (find patterns, etc).

rsyslog may be what you are searching for


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