Re: Random System Crashes

2007-10-02 Thread Daniel Santos

Hello,

System lock ups are most likely related to some hardware interfacing 
problem. Look at the drivers you have installed, and remove them from 
the kernel. Then start adding them while trying to reproduce the problem.


Daniel Santos

Michael Pobega wrote:

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Lately (For the past month or so) I've been experiencing random system
crashes. My system would just completely lock up and not respond to
anything but a power-down (I've tried switching to TTY1, among other
things, but nothing works).

I don't even know where to start diagnosing this problem...I'm looking
for help on where to start. ANY help would be appreciated.

If you need any more information just ask, besides the fact that I'm
running Debian Lenny with a teeny bit of Sid (amd64 as well).

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programs, by the same token they deserve to be punished if they
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Re: Random System Crashes

2007-10-02 Thread Kelly Clowers
On 10/2/07, Michael Pobega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Lately (For the past month or so) I've been experiencing random system
> crashes. My system would just completely lock up and not respond to
> anything but a power-down (I've tried switching to TTY1, among other
> things, but nothing works).
>
> I don't even know where to start diagnosing this problem...I'm looking
> for help on where to start. ANY help would be appreciated.
>
> If you need any more information just ask, besides the fact that I'm
> running Debian Lenny with a teeny bit of Sid (amd64 as well).

It may be this xorg freezing problem that some people have been
having. Can do a remote login? If so does everything seem to work
alright in the new session?

There was some discussion related to this on the list[1] a while back
and today on a blog on planet Ubuntu[2]. However, AFAIK no one has
come up with anything.

Sorry I can't be of more help.

[1]http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2007/09/msg01265.html
[2]http://admiralchicago.wordpress.com/2007/10/02/head-desk/


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Random System Crashes

2007-10-02 Thread Michael Pobega
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Lately (For the past month or so) I've been experiencing random system
crashes. My system would just completely lock up and not respond to
anything but a power-down (I've tried switching to TTY1, among other
things, but nothing works).

I don't even know where to start diagnosing this problem...I'm looking
for help on where to start. ANY help would be appreciated.

If you need any more information just ask, besides the fact that I'm
running Debian Lenny with a teeny bit of Sid (amd64 as well).

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programs, by the same token they deserve to be punished if they
restrict the use of these programs. 
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Re: Debian packages without md5sums

2007-10-02 Thread Carl Johnson
Daniel Burrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 05:37:51AM +, Felix Karpfen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> was heard to say:
> > >> But How do you use the key(s) listed in "/etc/apt/trusted.gpg" to
> > >> authenticate the individual installed packages. 
> > > 
> > > Oh, dpkg automatically checks it for you when you use apt-get/aptitude
> > > to install package.  (Unless you disable it.)
> > 
> > So is the answer to my question:
> > 
> > "use aptitude and not Synaptic" for installing packages?
> 
>   It shouldn't matter which frontend you use.  All the major frontends
> check the signature of the Release file when you download package lists
> from the archive.  The Release file contains a cryptographic checksum
> for the Packages file, which contains checksums for each individual .deb
> package.
> 
>   dpkg performs no key checking, at least on packages in the Debian
> archive.  There was some experimental code to stick embedded signatures
> into .deb files, but I don't know what it's status is and packages
> containing signatures aren't allowed in the archive last I heard.

Is there some way to get the system to re-read the release file?  I
installed the key after I upgradeed the system to etch, so all
packages on my DVDs show as being unverified.  I have tried to get it
to clear that, but nothing I have tried has worked.  I also noticed
recently that some packages show multiple entries in aptitude, so
possibly clearing the entries would clear that.

I am not the OP, but this looks like it relates to my problem.

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Pertenecer a la empresa

2007-10-02 Thread César Augusto García García
Solicito detalles para pertenecer a la empresa...César



Re: Printer setup problem in Etch

2007-10-02 Thread Bob C
On Sun, Mar 11, 2007 at 08:31:16PM -0400, Bob C wrote:
> 
> I am having a difficult time getting my printer to work on Etch with
> CUPS 1.2.7. When I print a page from Openoffice the printer responds,
> but prints a line of meaningless symbols.
> 

I had hoped that doing regular updates on my system, which is now Lenny,
would eventually solve the problem, but it still would not print until
today. 

I finally found how to fix the problem after reading this report of Bug
#38805 in Debian. They found the parallel port settings in the bios were
involved in the problem.
https://bugs.launchpad.net/debian/+bug/38805

I checked my bios setup and under Parellel Port Mode found four choices.
Normal, Bi-directional, EPP and ECP. I experienced the printer problem
with the bios set to ECP. 

When I choose Normal, the printer now works.

Bob C





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Re: cups yet again

2007-10-02 Thread Bob C
I have had what seems to be the same printer problem you describe, ever
since I installed Debian Etch in February 2007 on my new computer with
an amd64 type processor. My printer is an HP Deskpro 500, and the
computer has a Asus p5b mainboard with Intel E6300 processor. 

>From time to time I have looked into this problem and finally today
solved it after reading this report of Bug #38805 in Debian.
https://bugs.launchpad.net/debian/+bug/38805

I checked my bios setup and under Parellel Port Mode found four choices.
Normal, Bi-directional, EPP and ECP. I had the problem with it set at
ECP but when I choose Normal, the printer works.

Hope this fixes your problem as well,

Bob C



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Re: wake-on-lan

2007-10-02 Thread jacek2



Roel Schroeven wrote:
> 
>  From the man page, it indeed looks like that should help. Unfortunately 
> it doesn't seem to work. I'll investigate further tomorrow.
> 
> 

I do power ON/OFF my PC using this card and remote browser or cell phone if
you will:

  https://ool-43537bf6.dyn.optonline.net/Power%20Web%20Button.htm
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Re: FLOSS support for signed PDFs

2007-10-02 Thread Celejar
On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 05:36:58 +0530
Raj Kiran Grandhi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > I wrote:
> >> How are they doing this detection [of Acroread]?
> > 
> > Celejar writes:
> >> I don't know.
> 
> I suspect they rely on internet explorer being the browser, install some 
> sort of activex control and retrieve whatever information they can about 
> the users' computer. (This can potentially include sensitive information)
> 
> If it is not a requirement for you to deal with this particular 
> financial institution, I recommend switching to someone else having 
> better standards support (and inform the original institution about it 
> and your reasons for the change).
> 
> Otherwise, try the version of adobe reader that is available for linux, 
> though I guess they won't be able to detect that it is installed if you 
> access their site using linux. If this check for 'reader' is a one time 
> process, you can probably try connecting to their site from a trusted 
> windows machine with adobe reader installed, get through with the 
> verification step and then continue your transactions from your normal 
> machine.

The detection was apparently through the browser, as per my other posts
in this thread.  Installing the linux Reader made them happy.

> HTH,
> rajkiran

Thanks,
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Re: FLOSS support for signed PDFs

2007-10-02 Thread Celejar
On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 13:17:30 -0500
John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Celejar writes:
> > I installed the linux tarball (as a non-priveleged user, and to a
> > non-standard location under $HOME, to minimize pollution), and dropped
> > the plugin (nppdf.so) into $HOME/.mozilla/plugins (I'm using IW), which
> > was enough for the website to accept my system as having Acrobat
> > installed.
> 
> So the first thing that is needed for outfits like you bank is a plugin
> that causes Firefox/Iceweasel to lie and say that Acroread is available.
> 
> > I haven't yet tried to open a downloaded PDF in Acrobat since I'm
> > reluctant to agree to the EULA.
> 
> What happens when you open them with Evice or Xpdf?  Should work.

It does indeed; I am just interested in a way to check the signature,
although I'm not actually sure that the statement I downloaded is
signed.

> John Hasler

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Re: FLOSS support for signed PDFs

2007-10-02 Thread Celejar
On Tue, 2 Oct 2007 14:26:14 -0700
Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 04:18:13PM -0400, Celejar wrote:
> > On Tue, 2 Oct 2007 11:13:12 -0700
> > Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > > On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 12:45:58PM -0400, Celejar wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > Oddly enough, when I try to download PDFs from the institution's site,
> > > > the plugin doesn't pick them up, although IW recognizes them as "PDF
> > > > documents", and "about:plugins" shows Acrobat as being installed.  [IW
> > > > only offers to open the PDFs with the default app (Evince) or to save
> > > > them to disk]. 
> > > > 
> > > > pdfinfo gives:
> > > > 
> > > > > Producer:   iText by lowagie.com (r1.02b;p128)
> > > > > CreationDate:   Tue Oct  2 11:39:33 2007
> > > > > ModDate:Tue Oct  2 11:39:33 2007
> > > > > Tagged: no
> > > > > Pages:  4
> > > > > Encrypted:  no
> > > 
> > > they're not encrypted, so can you open them with evince/xpdf?  I'm not
> > 
> > Yes.
> > 
> > > sure what the problem is, I thought you were just trying to cross the
> > > hurdle of getting them to allow d/l. Or do you need to confirm the
> > > signatures?
> > 
> > The main hurdle was indeed getting it to just give me the PDFs, but if
> > they are indeed signed, I'd certainly like to be able to verify
> > the signatures, and I'm also just curious now as to why the plugin isn't
> > being called for these PDFs as it is for others.
> 
> with the binary in another location, maybe the plugin is failing and
> control passes on to another mechanism within iceweasel. Try running
> iceweasel from the command line (or check ~/.xsession-errors) to see
> if anything pertinent shows up. also, I don't know how iceweasel
> handles these things, but if there is a mime entry for .pdf that
> points to evince, maybe those get called before the plugins? heck,
> maybe the pluginb just doesn't work, too...

The plugin is working; when I access a PDF at another site, the Acrobat
EULA comes up (and I decline).  The other site's url ends in '.pdf',
while my FI's has some parameters after the filename; I don't know
whether that could have anything to do with it.

> A

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Re: Gnome delete user

2007-10-02 Thread Jim Hall

Andrew Sackville-West wrote:

On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 04:26:27PM -0500, Jim Hall wrote:


Douglas A. Tutty wrote:



...



You could set his box up to allow you to ssh into it, or dial in if he
has a modem.

* I could, but I don't really want to be THAT available!



don't tell him. just make things magically work when you're on the
phone... ;)

A



Now, that would be funny. As long as I can maintain a straight face. :-)

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Re: Gnome delete user

2007-10-02 Thread Jim Hall

Douglas A. Tutty wrote:

On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 04:26:27PM -0500, Jim Hall wrote:
 

* After I've done the above, I can change the conf file (incl. 
below). Am I correct in assumeing that changing any "=0" to "=1" 
activates that option?



man deluser.conf

Actually, having looked at it, if you want it will remove every file
owned by the user.  I would consider that dangerous.  You may want to
run a find instead.

Doug.





I did look at the man page. It says the choices are '0' or '1'. I can 
infer that if things are disabled now, that's '0'. To enable is '1'. I 
just wanted verification because inference can be dangerous. Your 
comment seems to provide that verification.


I like your idea of using find.

Jim


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Problem Resolved - Was Re: Dependency Error == Unable to Install Anything Else

2007-10-02 Thread Scarletdown
On Tue, 2007-10-02 at 17:20 -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 04:52:36PM -0700, Scarletdown wrote:
> > On Tue, 2007-10-02 at 23:36 +0200, David Paleino wrote:
> > > dpkg --force-overwrite
> > > -i /var/cache/apt/archives/libpth20_2.0.7-8_i386.deb
> > 
> > That worked.  I was at least able to update the kernel.  Now there's a
> > problem installing the latest nVidia video drivers.
> > 
> > The kernel was compiled with GCC 4.1 apparently, and the drivers require
> > 4.2, which I have installed.  However, the installation fails due to the
> > kernel having been compiled with 4.1.
> 
> are you running a mixed system? it sounds like you are and you likely
> need to address a number of issue that just haven't shown up yet.

She's just running pure Sid.  Anyway, the problem has been resolved.
And for future reference for others who may encounter the same problem
but come up with search results showing only the problem, but no
solution; all I had to do was simply install the kernel headers.




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Re: Trouble with downloaded images...

2007-10-02 Thread Amit Uttamchandani
On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 17:43:15 -
blues <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I just dl'ed the latest release from www.debian.org.  The first CD
> (debian-40r1-i386-CD-1) seems to be corrupted...so I used the torrent
> link and tried to download the CD again, and still cannot get a clean
> installAny suggestions??
> 
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Sorry to hear that you are having trouble with this. Have you tried checking 
the md5sum of the downloaded images to see if it matches the md5sum given on 
the download site?


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Trouble with downloaded images...

2007-10-02 Thread blues
I just dl'ed the latest release from www.debian.org.  The first CD
(debian-40r1-i386-CD-1) seems to be corrupted...so I used the torrent
link and tried to download the CD again, and still cannot get a clean
installAny suggestions??


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Re: SuperTux displays blank screen on launch

2007-10-02 Thread Matthew K Poer
On Tuesday 02 October 2007 2:18 pm, Amit Uttamchandani wrote:
> Hi thanks for the reply.
>
> I tried --sdl option and --opengl but still to no avail. I tried googling
> and it looks like some others have experienced the problem but I can't seem
> to find a concrete solution to it.
>
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That sounds pretty odd. Can you try another linux game that uses SDL? 
Armagetron, netpanzer and penguin-command all use libsdl-*. 

Try starting one or the other from a xterm, and let us know anything and 
everything that it spits out at you.

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Re: bash expansion crap...

2007-10-02 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 02:22:41PM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 01:57:44PM -0700, ss11223 wrote:
> > On Oct 2, 3:40 pm, Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > > Hey folks, help me out with this...please
> > >
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ for i in {1..3}; do echo $i; done
> > > 1
> > > 2
> > > 3
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ TEST=3; for i in {1..$TEST}; do echo $i; done
> > > {1..3}
> > >
> > > in the first example, its obvious. In the second, $TEST gets replaced
> > > with 3, but then the {} doesn't get expanded. I'm sure I have to do
> > > some kind of wacky $({[ type thing, but I'm not able to grok it. any
> > > ideas?
> > >
> > > the purpose is to be able to easily update some loops in a script for
> > > different numbers of object to iterate over. obvious, I guess.
> > >
> > > A
> > >
> > >  signature.asc
> > > 1KDownload
> > 
> > This works for me, BASH can do arithmetic!
> > 
> >  TEST=3;  for (( i=1; i<=$TEST; i++)); do echo $i; done
> 
> okay, that's much better than Mike Bird's
> 
> for i in $(eval echo {1..$TEST}) 
> 
> in that it's much clearer, to my eye, what's happening.
> thanks

just to wrap up this whole thing... looks I was having trouble seeing
the forest for the one large tree right in front of me. I love how
that happens -- encounter a problem like trying to get this variable
to expand, spend a bit of time trying to suss out the problem of
getting that variable to expand when all around me were numerous
alternative ways to do the same thing. 

Someone give me some nails for my hammer here...

A


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Re: bash expansion crap...

2007-10-02 Thread Miles Bader
You could also use the "seq" program instead (which comes with
coreutils):

  for i in `seq 1 $TEST`; do ...

I'm not sure if that's more or less portable than using all these
various bash features...

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Re: capping the apt-getting of packages from ftp.xy.debian.org to < 50KBps?

2007-10-02 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 11:51:16PM +0100, Frank Wilson wrote:
> > I gather that you've tried several different mirrors, right? What kind
> > of d/l speed do you get using any of the free bandwidth testers?
> >
> 
> Well I went to speedtest.net (I don't know if that's a good one or
> not!). They gave me 275Kbps down and 354Kbps up (that's bits this
> time!). Those figures look the wrong way around but it seems i have
> more upstream than downstream (i tested it twice).

interesting. sounds like, if there is lots to p2p going an as you
mention below, that they're mostly leeching. 

> 
> The thing is when I use a download accelerator (parallel downloads) to
> download say eclipse ornetbeans. My download speed is more or less
> alright(100-150KBytes/sec). So I guess maybe I'm just fighting it out
> with with people doing lots of p2p.

sounds like you're having some serious QoS issues there. What kind of
connection? what are the expected speed? 

A


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Re: Dependency Error == Unable to Install Anything Else

2007-10-02 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 04:52:36PM -0700, Scarletdown wrote:
> On Tue, 2007-10-02 at 23:36 +0200, David Paleino wrote:
> > dpkg --force-overwrite
> > -i /var/cache/apt/archives/libpth20_2.0.7-8_i386.deb
> 
> That worked.  I was at least able to update the kernel.  Now there's a
> problem installing the latest nVidia video drivers.
> 
> The kernel was compiled with GCC 4.1 apparently, and the drivers require
> 4.2, which I have installed.  However, the installation fails due to the
> kernel having been compiled with 4.1.

are you running a mixed system? it sounds like you are and you likely
need to address a number of issue that just haven't shown up yet.

A


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Re: cdrecord vs. wodim again

2007-10-02 Thread Wayne Topa
Andrew Sackville-West([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
> On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 03:46:51PM -0400, Wayne Topa wrote:
> > steef([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
> > >
> > > hi all and *especially jörg s., long-term initiator of cdrecord and 
> > > cdrtools*.
> > >
> > > two weeks ago i asked on this list 'what is better': cdrecord or wodim. 
> > > on 
> > > one of the responses i answered that the most recent version of 
> > > cdrecord/cdr-tools completely damaged two brandnew cdrom's. jörg asked me 
> > > for more info: and here comes some.
> > >
> > > 1. only one cd/dvd-burner om my machine produced this undesirable effect. 
> > > a 
> > > couple of other burners worked flawlessly with the most recent bêta of 
> > > jörg 
> > > sch.
> > > so it could be that jörg did not make this beta recognize this burner: 
> > > see 
> > > /dev/hdb (from dmesg |less): 
> > > hda: MAXTOR STM3250820A, ATA DISK drive
### > > > hdb: Optiarc DVD RW AD-7173A, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
> > > ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
> > > Probing IDE interface ide1...
> > > hdc: ST3120026A, ATA DISK drive
> > 
> > Right!  Neither cdrecord or wodim can burn to a _Hard Disk_.
> 
> where do you get this? He provided no info on what command he used and
> if you look, hdb is clearly an optical drive... are you drinking too
  ^^^  But I didn't see that!
> much coffee? ;)

I wish.  The line ### commented was not on my radar.  I saw the
line above my comment and thought "Why is he trying to burn a cd on an
ATA Disk Dirve".

My bad.  With the mail being so light today, I was working on a couple
of laptops and just missed the hdb line.  

Easily confused ... need ...MORE COFFEE.

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Re: P-II ASUS box won't boot another drive

2007-10-02 Thread Russell L. Harris
* Douglas A. Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [071002 18:21]:
> On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 04:38:38PM -0500, Russell L. Harris wrote:
>  
> > In order to get the system to boot, I found it necessary to install
> > the 32Gbyte clip jumper on any drive larger than 32Gbyte.  
> > 
> > Once the system boots, W2000 thinks it is running on a 32Gbyte drive.
> > However, Debian sees the entire drive, despite the clip jumper.
> > 
> 
> What is a clip jumper?
> 
> Doug.


Doug,

On the back of a typical IDE drive, between the power and data
connectors, there is a double-row configuration header; it looks just
like the data connector, except it typically has only four sets of
pins.  

One or more shorting jumpers are plugged onto the pins in order to
configure the drive as master, slave, or cable-select.  And one pair
of jumpers provides a 32Gbyte clip, so that the BIOS thinks that the
drive is smaller than it really is.  The jumper doesn't change the
physical characteristics of the drive; it simply deceives the BIOS.

Somewhere on the label of the drive, the manufacturer should have
provided a diagram or a table showing which pins to jumper for the
various configuration options.  If not, then you need to check the web
site of the manufacturer for a diagram or table.  

When installed, a jumper "shorts" or "bridges" a pair of pins.  The
jumper has a plastic body and a gold-plated brass insert; it is about
6 mm long, 2.5 mm wide, and 5 mm high.

A new drive typically ships with at least two jumpers.  Sometimes an
extra pair of dummy pins provides a place to "park" a spare jumper.
The same type of jumper is used on the back of CD-ROM drives.  So if
you need a jumper and there is not a spare jumper on the drive, look
around for an old disk drive or an old CD-ROM drive.

RLH


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Re: Dependency Error == Unable to Install Anything Else

2007-10-02 Thread Scarletdown
On Tue, 2007-10-02 at 23:36 +0200, David Paleino wrote:
> dpkg --force-overwrite
> -i /var/cache/apt/archives/libpth20_2.0.7-8_i386.deb

That worked.  I was at least able to update the kernel.  Now there's a
problem installing the latest nVidia video drivers.

The kernel was compiled with GCC 4.1 apparently, and the drivers require
4.2, which I have installed.  However, the installation fails due to the
kernel having been compiled with 4.1.

I tried export CC=gcc-4.2, but that didn't fix the problem.  What other
tricks can I try to get these video drivers installed?  (Going through
City of Heroes withdrawls here because of this...)  :)




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Re: [Off Topic] Sourceforge putting MS ads in developer emails

2007-10-02 Thread Ron Johnson
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On 10/02/07 17:42, Nate Bargmann wrote:
> * Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007 Oct 02 17:30 -0500]:
> 
>> 1) sf needs to pay for electricity, servers and bandwidth.
>> 2) *Many* of the projects hosted on sf run on Windows.
> 
> Fine, I understand that.  They can host advertisements on their Web
> pages and on the project pages they create, that's not my gripe.  But
> to shove it into the developer emails is absurd.

How much do you pay for this service?

>   Where are they going
> to start mucking around in next?  And since they have sole control of
> the CVS/SVN repositories AND they've obviously cozied up to MS, that
> opens a nice gateway into planting patented code into some high-profile
> projects.

> Before someone says, "They'd never do that!"  Do you think MS cares
> one whit about Sourceforge other than to destroy it?  Do they care one
> whit about the ISO standards process?

What's forcing you to host your project on Sourceforge?

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Re: [Off Topic] Sourceforge putting MS ads in developer emails

2007-10-02 Thread David Brodbeck


On Oct 2, 2007, at 3:42 PM, Nate Bargmann wrote:


...AND they've obviously cozied up to MS...


What evidence do you have that they've "cozied up to" MS?  So far all  
we know is that MS has bought some ad space from them.


I see a lot of knee-jerk overreaction in this thread, but not much else.


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Re: bash expansion crap...

2007-10-02 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 01:57:44PM -0700, ss11223 wrote:
> On Oct 2, 3:40 pm, Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > Hey folks, help me out with this...please
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ for i in {1..3}; do echo $i; done
> > 1
> > 2
> > 3
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ TEST=3; for i in {1..$TEST}; do echo $i; done
> > {1..3}
> >
> > in the first example, its obvious. In the second, $TEST gets replaced
> > with 3, but then the {} doesn't get expanded. I'm sure I have to do
> > some kind of wacky $({[ type thing, but I'm not able to grok it. any
> > ideas?
> >
> > the purpose is to be able to easily update some loops in a script for
> > different numbers of object to iterate over. obvious, I guess.
> >
> > A
> >
> >  signature.asc
> > 1KDownload
> 
> This works for me, BASH can do arithmetic!
> 
>  TEST=3;  for (( i=1; i<=$TEST; i++)); do echo $i; done

okay, that's much better than Mike Bird's

for i in $(eval echo {1..$TEST}) 

in that it's much clearer, to my eye, what's happening.
thanks

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Re: Emacs and python programming language

2007-10-02 Thread Pál Csányi
On Mon, Oct 01, 2007 at 08:26:09PM +0200, P?l Cs?nyi wrote:
>>
>> I learn how to use Emacs because I want to programming in python language.

> They have nothing to do with each other.  You can use any editor to
> create python progams.  To learn python, install the python docs package
> that comes with a tutorial.

Yes, but for me Emacs is an interesting editor that I want to use in
the future. :)

I installed python docs already on my Etch system.

Also I try DrPython package (editor for python).

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Re: cdrecord vs. wodim again

2007-10-02 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 10:11:29AM +, steef wrote:
> 
> two weeks ago i asked on this list 'what is better': cdrecord or wodim. 
> on one of the responses i answered that the most recent version of 
> cdrecord/cdr-tools completely damaged two brandnew cdrom's.

Just to clarify, do you mean that the cdrom (the $1 or so disc) or do
you mean that it damanged the drive itself (the $50-100 drive)?

Since the drive has a laser, I can see that a bad app/driver could point
that thing at the wrong spot on the disc and wreck it.  It would be a
whole 'nother ball of wax if we risk killing hardware running a standard
app.

Doug.


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Re: P-II ASUS box won't boot another drive

2007-10-02 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 04:38:38PM -0500, Russell L. Harris wrote:
 
> In order to get the system to boot, I found it necessary to install
> the 32Gbyte clip jumper on any drive larger than 32Gbyte.  
> 
> Once the system boots, W2000 thinks it is running on a 32Gbyte drive.
> However, Debian sees the entire drive, despite the clip jumper.
> 

What is a clip jumper?

Doug.


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Re: capping the apt-getting of packages from ftp.xy.debian.org to < 50KBps?

2007-10-02 Thread Frank Wilson
> I gather that you've tried several different mirrors, right? What kind
> of d/l speed do you get using any of the free bandwidth testers?
>

Well I went to speedtest.net (I don't know if that's a good one or
not!). They gave me 275Kbps down and 354Kbps up (that's bits this
time!). Those figures look the wrong way around but it seems i have
more upstream than downstream (i tested it twice).

The thing is when I use a download accelerator (parallel downloads) to
download say eclipse ornetbeans. My download speed is more or less
alright(100-150KBytes/sec). So I guess maybe I'm just fighting it out
with with people doing lots of p2p.

There doesn't seem to be a nice way of integrating apt-get with axel.
I've only seen people doing apt-get in two stages with axel (in short
get the dependencies from apt-get, then download with axel, then
install with apt-get). I found a shell script someone wrote to
automate this called apt-axel, but it didn't work for me.

> its not a big deal and once setup, then the second machine to d/l a
> package gets it pretty much instantly. Couple that with machines
> running cron-apt and you you pretty much never see a real download,
> only the cached copies. I am using approx. ymmv.

I might give it a go if my connection stays this poor. I have one
spare machine (it's noisy mind!).

Thanks for the replies.


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Motherboard Recommendation

2007-10-02 Thread Eric Estes
Can anyone recommend a good AMD (socket A2 - Athlon 64 X2) motherboard that has 
good Linux support? I'm sending back my Shuttle to newegg and need a 
replacement asap.


Thanks.



Re: URGENT: Intel Corporation Q963/Q965 : xorg problem

2007-10-02 Thread Henrique G. Abreu
It doesn't solve your problem, but at least you are not alone.

I also have this card and if I switch from X to console (sometimes it
happens only if I do it twice).
The console becomes unreadable, with some kind of rows and letters overlaying.
Again, if I use vesa driver, it doesn't happen.

On 10/2/07, Stephane Durieux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have a serious problem with Q963/Q965 graphic intel
> card. I use the driver i810 and everything seems ok
> except when I try to switch from X to console and to
> back to X.
> Then the display seems to be desynchronised.
>
> I have tried a X restart but without success ...
> The only thing wich succeeds is to reboot
>
> Here are the logs that could help :
>
> (WW) I810(0): Successfully set original devices (WW)
> I810(0): Setting the original video mode instead of
> restoring
>the saved state
> (WW) I810(0): Extended BIOS function 0x5f05 not
> supported.
> (II) I810(0): BIOS call 0x5f05 not supported, setting
> refresh with VBE 3 method.(II) I810(0):
> xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 8 (II) I810(0):
> xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 0
> (II) I810(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 1
> (II) I810(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 3
> (II) I810(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 2
> (II) I810(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 4
> (II) I810(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 5
> (II) I810(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 6
> (II) I810(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 7
> (WW) I810(0): Successfully set original devices (2)
> (II) I810(0): [drm] removed 1 reserved context for
> kernel
> (II) I810(0): [drm] unmapping 8192 bytes of SAREA
> 0xf8a9c000 at 0xb7b0f000
>
>
> At the beginning, I have suspected a problem with the
> keyboard cause I have a message describing a problem
> with setkeycode .
> So I tried getkeycodes which returned :
>
> Plain scancodes xx (hex) versus keycodes (dec)
> 0 is an error; for 1-88 (0x01-0x58) scancode equals
> keycode
>
> KDGETKEYCODE: Aucun périphérique de ce type
> failed to get keycode for scancode 0x5a
>  0x58:   88  89
>
> But, when I replace i810 by vga driver the problem
> disappears ...
>
> can someone help me ...
>
>
>
> Stephane Durieux
>
>
>
>
>  
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Re: Intel Corporation Q963/Q965: xorg problem

2007-10-02 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 18:05:31 +0200, Stephane Durieux wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I have a serious problem with Q963/Q965 graphic intel
> card. I use the driver i810 and everything seems ok
> except when I try to switch from X to console and to
> back to X.
> Then the display seems to be desynchronised.
> 
> I have tried a X restart but without success ... 
> The only thing wich succeeds is to reboot 

For a start, please post the output of the following commands:

lspci | egrep -i 'vga|graphic|display'

apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-video-i{810,ntel}

X -version

uname -a

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Re: [Off Topic] Sourceforge putting MS ads in developer emails

2007-10-02 Thread Nate Bargmann
* Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007 Oct 02 17:30 -0500]:

> 1) sf needs to pay for electricity, servers and bandwidth.
> 2) *Many* of the projects hosted on sf run on Windows.

Fine, I understand that.  They can host advertisements on their Web
pages and on the project pages they create, that's not my gripe.  But
to shove it into the developer emails is absurd.  Where are they going
to start mucking around in next?  And since they have sole control of
the CVS/SVN repositories AND they've obviously cozied up to MS, that
opens a nice gateway into planting patented code into some high-profile
projects.

Before someone says, "They'd never do that!"  Do you think MS cares
one whit about Sourceforge other than to destroy it?  Do they care one
whit about the ISO standards process?

- Nate >>

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Re: bash expansion crap...

2007-10-02 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Oct 03, 2007 at 12:23:17AM +0200, Gerard Robin wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 11:49:16AM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
>> From: Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>> Subject: bash expansion crap...
>> Mail-Followup-To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>> X-Spam_score: -4.4
>> X-Spam_score_int: -43
>> X-Spam_bar: 
>> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.396 tagged_above=3.6 required=5.3
>>  tests=[AWL=1.068, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135]
>> X-Spam-Level: 
>> Hey folks, help me out with this...please
>>
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ for i in {1..3}; do echo $i; done
>> 1
>> 2
>> 3
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ TEST=3; for i in {1..$TEST}; do echo $i; done
>> {1..3}
>>
> max=3;for i in `seq $max`; do echo $i; done

also nice. thanks

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Re: iscan frustration Compounded!

2007-10-02 Thread Chris Davies
Felix Karpfen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The problem is similar because Debian Etch (kernel 2.6.18) is looking for
> the firmware file in the wrong directory. [...]

Why should the kernel be looking for a firmware file to send to the
scanner? Are you /sure/ this is a kernel issue?

Can you post the exact set of messages relating to this, please?
Chris


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Re: [Off Topic] Sourceforge putting MS ads in developer emails

2007-10-02 Thread Ron Johnson
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On 10/02/07 17:12, Nate Bargmann wrote:
> I noticed yesterday an advertising block in an email for a developers'
> list for a Free Software project hosted on SourceForge.net which I
> don't wish to reproduce here as to avoid giving MS free advertising. 
> Suffice it to say, I am not pleased that Free Software developers are
> being force fed MS advertising and that my name and email address are
> being associated with MS.
> 
> I don't intend this as a flame war, but I just want to alert anyone
> involved in a project hosted at SourceForge that this being done.

1) sf needs to pay for electricity, servers and bandwidth.
2) *Many* of the projects hosted on sf run on Windows.

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Re: bash expansion crap...

2007-10-02 Thread Gerard Robin

On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 11:49:16AM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:

From: Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: bash expansion crap...
Mail-Followup-To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
X-Spam_score: -4.4
X-Spam_score_int: -43
X-Spam_bar: 
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X-Spam-Level: 


Hey folks, help me out with this...please

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ for i in {1..3}; do echo $i; done
1
2
3
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ TEST=3; for i in {1..$TEST}; do echo $i; done
{1..3}


max=3;for i in `seq $max`; do echo $i; done

works for me


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Re: Dependency Error == Unable to Install Anything Else

2007-10-02 Thread David Paleino
Il giorno Tue, 02 Oct 2007 14:00:29 -0700
Scarletdown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto:

> 
> ...
> 
> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libpth20_2.0.7-8_i386.deb
> (--unpack): trying to overwri /usr/lib/libpth.so.20.0.27 which is also
> in package libpth2.
> 
> So, I am at a standstill here.  How do I fix this and make my system
> useable again?

dpkg --force-overwrite -i /var/cache/apt/archives/libpth20_2.0.7-8_i386.deb

Be warned that this might be a dangerous command.

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[Off Topic] Sourceforge putting MS ads in developer emails

2007-10-02 Thread Nate Bargmann
I noticed yesterday an advertising block in an email for a developers'
list for a Free Software project hosted on SourceForge.net which I
don't wish to reproduce here as to avoid giving MS free advertising. 
Suffice it to say, I am not pleased that Free Software developers are
being force fed MS advertising and that my name and email address are
being associated with MS.

I don't intend this as a flame war, but I just want to alert anyone
involved in a project hosted at SourceForge that this being done.

- Nate >>

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Remove ne"network places" in Network-Manager under Gnome

2007-10-02 Thread Miguel J. Jiménez
Hi, I want to remove a network place I made using the network manager of 
gnome (network-admin). The problem is that when I try to remove it using 
the same tool it takes LONG. Where is the "network places" configuration 
saved? To just edit by hand... thanks in advance.


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Re: iscan frustration Compounded!

2007-10-02 Thread Chris Davies
Thomas H. George <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> There was no esfw41.bin in my system.  I added a line "usb 0x048b 0x011b"
> to snapscan.conf and after this gimp ran 4 succesful color scans with
> the Perfection 2400 before locking up on the fifth scan.  There is still 
> no esfw41.bin in my system.

I found this would work for me, provided that /something/ had previously
downloaded the firmware to the scanner since its last power-up. (That
"something" might be WinXP yesterday when you dual booted it.)

Chris


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Re: problem with postfix and libsasl2

2007-10-02 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 11:17:28 +0200, Daniele Salatti wrote:

[ top-posted reply shifted to proper place below ] 

> 2007/10/1, Florian Kulzer:
> > On Mon, Oct 01, 2007 at 00:14:42 +0200, Daniele Salatti wrote:
> > > Hi!
> > > I'm trying to set up a mailserver on Debian etch for the first time, but
> > I
> > > have a problem: every time I restart postfix I get this message:
> > >
> > > /usr/sbin/postconf: /usr/local/lib/libsasl2.so.2: no version information
> > > available (required by /usr/sbin/postconf)
> > >
> > > Any idea on how can I fix it? I can't use SASL...
> >
> > Where does /usr/local/lib/libsasl2.so.2 come from? The libsasl2-2
> > package puts the library and this symlink into /usr/lib/. (Debian
> > packages never touch the /usr/local/... directories.) You seem to have
> > a non-Debian library installed which is broken.
>
> Hi,
> I used apt to set up everything. How could this happen?

The output of these commands would be interesting:

dpkg -S libsasl2.so.2
file /usr/local/lib/libsasl2.so.2
stat -L /usr/local/lib/libsasl2.so.2
file /usr/lib/libsasl2.so.2
stat -L /usr/lib/libsasl2.so.2

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cupsdDoSelect() failed - Function not implemented! in unstable cupsys 1.3.2-1 source package

2007-10-02 Thread Andreas G

Hello.

I have a problem installing the unstable cupsys 1.3.2-1 source package 
on my Debian etch system.


I have installed the package using:
apt-get -b source -t unstable cupsys
dpkg -i cupsys_1.3.2-1_i386.deb cupsys-bsd_1.3.2-1_i386.deb 
cupsys-client_1.3.2-1_i386.deb ...



I have the following cups packages installed:
neoiss:~/src# dpkg --list | grep cups
ii  cupsys   1.3.2-1
ii  cupsys-bsd   1.3.2-1
ii  cupsys-client1.3.2-1
ii  cupsys-common1.3.2-1
ii  cupsys-dbg   1.3.2-1
ii  libcupsimage21.3.2-1
ii  libcupsimage2-dev1.3.2-1
ii  libcupsys2   1.3.2-1
ii  libcupsys2-dev   1.3.2-1


When I try to start cups with /etc/init.d/cupsys start, I get the 
following error in /var/log/cups/error_log:


Notice the "cupsdDoSelect() failed - Function not implemented!"

I [29/Sep/2007:15:08:43 +0200] Listening to 127.0.0.1:631 (IPv4)
I [29/Sep/2007:15:08:43 +0200] Listening to /var/run/cups/cups.sock 
(Domain)
I [29/Sep/2007:15:08:43 +0200] Loaded configuration file 
"/etc/cups/cupsd.conf"
I [29/Sep/2007:15:08:43 +0200] Using default TempDir of 
/var/spool/cups/tmp...

I [29/Sep/2007:15:08:43 +0200] Configured for up to 100 clients.
I [29/Sep/2007:15:08:43 +0200] Allowing up to 100 client connections per 
host.

I [29/Sep/2007:15:08:43 +0200] Using policy "default" as the default!
I [29/Sep/2007:15:08:43 +0200] Full reload is required.
I [29/Sep/2007:15:08:43 +0200] Loaded MIME database from 
'/usr/share/cups/mime:/etc/cups': 36 types, 40 filters...

D [29/Sep/2007:15:08:43 +0200] Loading printer hp8150...
D [29/Sep/2007:15:08:43 +0200] Loading printer SharpMX2300N...
D [29/Sep/2007:15:08:43 +0200] Loading printer SharpMX2300N-bw...
D [29/Sep/2007:15:08:43 +0200] cupsdLoadRemoteCache: Not loading remote 
cache.
I [29/Sep/2007:15:08:43 +0200] Loading job cache file 
"/var/cache/cups/job.cache"...

I [29/Sep/2007:15:08:43 +0200] Full reload complete.
I [29/Sep/2007:15:08:43 +0200] Cleaning out old temporary files in 
"/var/spool/cups/tmp"...

I [29/Sep/2007:15:08:43 +0200] Listening to 127.0.0.1:631 on fd 2...
I [29/Sep/2007:15:08:43 +0200] Listening to /var/run/cups/cups.sock on 
fd 3...

I [29/Sep/2007:15:08:43 +0200] Resuming new connection processing...
X [29/Sep/2007:15:08:43 +0200] cupsdDoSelect() failed - Function not 
implemented!

X [29/Sep/2007:15:08:43 +0200] Listeners[0] = 2
X [29/Sep/2007:15:08:43 +0200] Listeners[1] = 3
X [29/Sep/2007:15:08:43 +0200] BrowseSocket = -1
X [29/Sep/2007:15:08:43 +0200] CGIPipes[0] = 4
X [29/Sep/2007:15:08:43 +0200] printer[hp8150] 0
X [29/Sep/2007:15:08:43 +0200] printer[SharpMX2300N] 0
X [29/Sep/2007:15:08:43 +0200] printer[SharpMX2300N-bw] 0
E [29/Sep/2007:15:08:43 +0200] Scheduler shutting down due to program 
error.

D [29/Sep/2007:15:08:43 +0200] Saving remote.cache...
I [29/Sep/2007:15:08:43 +0200] Saving job cache file 
"/var/cache/cups/job.cache"...



The stable binary package works just fine. What can cause the "Function 
not implemented!" error? Have I not installed cupsys properly? Am I 
missing a dependency?


Best regards,
Andreas



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Re: disks available

2007-10-02 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 04:50:23PM +0200, Ivan Glushkov wrote:
> a simple question: Is there a way under linux, as a user (i.e. without 
> superuser privileges) to find out how many hard drives are physically 
> connected on the computer? I am not interested in the info given by 
> /etc/fstab or by the df command, since both of them are showing mounted 
> disks, which is not what I want...

$ dmesg | less

will show you everything that the kernel reports

As will, e.g., /proc/ide/ide0/hda/model

Doug.


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Re: Gnome delete user

2007-10-02 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 04:26:27PM -0500, Jim Hall wrote:
> Douglas A. Tutty wrote:

...

>
> You could set his box up to allow you to ssh into it, or dial in if he
> has a modem.
>
> * I could, but I don't really want to be THAT available!

don't tell him. just make things magically work when you're on the
phone... ;)

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Re: Dependency Error == Unable to Install Anything Else

2007-10-02 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 02:00:29PM -0700, Scarletdown wrote:
> I'm trying to install a new kernel (going from 2.8.18-3-k7 to
> 2.6.22-2-k7) so that I can update my video drivers.  However, I keep
> getting this annoyance that causes anything I try to install to fail:
> 
> You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these:
> The following packages have unmet dependencies.
>   gnupg-agent: Depends: libpth20 (>= 2.0.7-2) but it is not going to be
> installed
>   gpgsm: Depends: libpth20 (>= 2.0.7-2) but it is not going to be
> installed
>   libgpgme11: Depends: libpth20 (>= 2.0.7-2) but it is not going to be
> installed
> 
> 
> Of course, I did the suggested apt-get -f install.  Apt tried to install
> libpth20, but failed with this error:
> 
> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libpth20_2.0.7-8_i386.deb
> (--unpack): trying to overwri /usr/lib/libpth.so.20.0.27 which is also
> in package libpth2.
> 

you have libpth2 installed which looks like it conflicts with
libpth20. libpth20 *provides* libpth2, so I think you'd be safe to
remove libpth2 and install libpth20. that should clear you up. It may
be that you need a dist-upgrade to clear that out. What are you
running? etch, lenny, sid?

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Re: FLOSS support for signed PDFs

2007-10-02 Thread John Hasler
Celejar writes:
> I installed the linux tarball (as a non-priveleged user, and to a
> non-standard location under $HOME, to minimize pollution), and dropped
> the plugin (nppdf.so) into $HOME/.mozilla/plugins (I'm using IW), which
> was enough for the website to accept my system as having Acrobat
> installed.

So the first thing that is needed for outfits like you bank is a plugin
that causes Firefox/Iceweasel to lie and say that Acroread is available.

> I haven't yet tried to open a downloaded PDF in Acrobat since I'm
> reluctant to agree to the EULA.

What happens when you open them with Evice or Xpdf?  Should work.
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Re: Gnome delete user

2007-10-02 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 04:26:27PM -0500, Jim Hall wrote:
 
> * After I've done the above, I can change the conf file (incl. 
> below). Am I correct in assumeing that changing any "=0" to "=1" 
> activates that option?

man deluser.conf

Actually, having looked at it, if you want it will remove every file
owned by the user.  I would consider that dangerous.  You may want to
run a find instead.

Doug.


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Re: P-II ASUS box won't boot another drive

2007-10-02 Thread Russell L. Harris
* Mumia W.. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [071002 15:42]:
> On 10/02/2007 11:48 AM, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
>> Hello all,
>> I bought an 8 GB drive for my P-II so that I don't have to scrimp so much 
>> when installing (see previous theads).  I also found a 1.1 GB drive.  The 
>> box used to have an 8 GB drive that died last year.
>> This computer seems very picky over what drives it will actually boot. The 
>> origional 8 GB and the new 8GB drive are the same WD.  The 1.1 GB is also 
>> a WD.  Of the drives, it will only boot an 850 MB Quantum.
>> I tried all the different geometry settings (NORMAL, LBA, LARGE) and 
>> reinstalled Etch and OpenBSD each time.  No boots.  Put in the 850 MB, 
>> install Etch, boots OK.
>> Has anyone run into this before?  My IBM PS/ValuePoint 486 will boot all 
>> of the drives no problem.
>> As it is now, my 486 has the two WD drives so has lots of room for OBSD 
>> (since Etch won't install).
>> Doug.

I have running here a PII with Asus P2B-F motherboard and a 40Gbyte
IDE drive.  The manual for the P2B-F is rather poor, and fails to
provide a number of vital details.

I have been running a dual-boot Debian/W2000 scheme, with Debian
"testing" on one drive and W2000 on the other, and using GRUB as the
boot loader.  With a 366 MHz process, performance with W2000 and with
the Gnome desktop is acceptable, but sometimes a bit frustrating.  

In order to get the system to boot, I found it necessary to install
the 32Gbyte clip jumper on any drive larger than 32Gbyte.  

Once the system boots, W2000 thinks it is running on a 32Gbyte drive.
However, Debian sees the entire drive, despite the clip jumper.

RLH


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Re: Gnome delete user

2007-10-02 Thread Jim Hall

Douglas A. Tutty wrote:

On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 12:23:19PM -0500, Jim Hall wrote:


Background: Two Etch installs literally accross the street from each
other with different owners. Mixed up my notes and installed a user
account from the first on the second. The Gnome user manager tool won't
remove the home directory (I don't know if that's the only thing it
won't remove). I would really like to completely remove the user before
adding the correct one so I can show the owner a GUI way of doing it.
BTW, "completely" means not a speck or trace of the removed user left.

Question: Is there what might be called an "industrial strength" GUI
user manager tool that will remove a user as though it never existed?




I would guess that it follows the /etc/deluser.conf file's options with
default to not removing the home directory.

Why not just remove it as root?

Doug.





>
> If the users home directory is all I need to be concerned about, I can
> show him how to do that (he'll have to learn how to use a file manager
> anyway). I need to be certain that that is all I need to show him to do
> after removing from the GUI tool. At this point, having him modify a
> conf file could be a disaster in the making.
>


Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
 First, sorry for getting my reply mixed up. I inserted yours. 

deluser only worries about the user's home directory.  It doesn't go
perusing the whole filesystem looking for files owned by that user.
Most user's can only write to their home directories and to /tmp and
/var/tmp so it shouldn't matter.

* OK, that tells me what I need to know. If I want to stay GUI (at 
least to start) the user manager plus deleting the home directory works.




As for the conf file, its only one line to uncomment.  You could email
it to him.

* After I've done the above, I can change the conf file (incl. 
below). Am I correct in assumeing that changing any "=0" to "=1" 
activates that option?


# /etc/deluser.conf: `deluser' configuration.

# Remove home directory and mail spool when user is removed
REMOVE_HOME = 0

# Remove all files on the system owned by the user to be removed
REMOVE_ALL_FILES = 0

# Backup files before removing them. This options has only an effect if
# REMOVE_HOME or REMOVE_ALL_FILES is set.
BACKUP = 0

# target directory for the backup file
BACKUP_TO = "."

# delete a group even there are still users in this group
ONLY_IF_EMPTY = 0

# exclude these filesystem types when searching for files of a user to 
backup

EXCLUDE_FSTYPES = "(proc|sysfs|usbfs|devpts|tmpfs)"




You could set his box up to allow you to ssh into it, or dial in if he
has a modem.

* I could, but I don't really want to be THAT available!



Teach him how to use mc so that he has something not GUI incase X ever
breakes on him.  It has a nice editor too.

* True. I usually install mc, but only for my use. Most Windoze 
users don't seem to get it early on so I forgot about that use for it. 
Good reminder.




Doug.



Thanks,
Jim


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Dependency Error == Unable to Install Anything Else

2007-10-02 Thread Scarletdown
I'm trying to install a new kernel (going from 2.8.18-3-k7 to
2.6.22-2-k7) so that I can update my video drivers.  However, I keep
getting this annoyance that causes anything I try to install to fail:

You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these:
The following packages have unmet dependencies.
  gnupg-agent: Depends: libpth20 (>= 2.0.7-2) but it is not going to be
installed
  gpgsm: Depends: libpth20 (>= 2.0.7-2) but it is not going to be
installed
  libgpgme11: Depends: libpth20 (>= 2.0.7-2) but it is not going to be
installed


Of course, I did the suggested apt-get -f install.  Apt tried to install
libpth20, but failed with this error:

dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libpth20_2.0.7-8_i386.deb
(--unpack): trying to overwri /usr/lib/libpth.so.20.0.27 which is also
in package libpth2.

So, I am at a standstill here.  How do I fix this and make my system
useable again?



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Re: cdrecord vs. wodim again

2007-10-02 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 03:46:51PM -0400, Wayne Topa wrote:
> steef([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
> >
> > hi all and *especially jörg s., long-term initiator of cdrecord and 
> > cdrtools*.
> >
> > two weeks ago i asked on this list 'what is better': cdrecord or wodim. on 
> > one of the responses i answered that the most recent version of 
> > cdrecord/cdr-tools completely damaged two brandnew cdrom's. jörg asked me 
> > for more info: and here comes some.
> >
> > 1. only one cd/dvd-burner om my machine produced this undesirable effect. a 
> > couple of other burners worked flawlessly with the most recent bêta of jörg 
> > sch.
> > so it could be that jörg did not make this beta recognize this burner: see 
> > /dev/hdb (from dmesg |less): 
> > hda: MAXTOR STM3250820A, ATA DISK drive
> > hdb: Optiarc DVD RW AD-7173A, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
> > ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
> > Probing IDE interface ide1...
> > hdc: ST3120026A, ATA DISK drive
> 
> Right!  Neither cdrecord or wodim can burn to a _Hard Disk_.

where do you get this? He provided no info on what command he used and
if you look, hdb is clearly an optical drive... are you drinking too
much coffee? ;)

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Re: FLOSS support for signed PDFs

2007-10-02 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 04:18:13PM -0400, Celejar wrote:
> On Tue, 2 Oct 2007 11:13:12 -0700
> Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 12:45:58PM -0400, Celejar wrote:
> > > 
> > > Oddly enough, when I try to download PDFs from the institution's site,
> > > the plugin doesn't pick them up, although IW recognizes them as "PDF
> > > documents", and "about:plugins" shows Acrobat as being installed.  [IW
> > > only offers to open the PDFs with the default app (Evince) or to save
> > > them to disk]. 
> > > 
> > > pdfinfo gives:
> > > 
> > > > Producer:   iText by lowagie.com (r1.02b;p128)
> > > > CreationDate:   Tue Oct  2 11:39:33 2007
> > > > ModDate:Tue Oct  2 11:39:33 2007
> > > > Tagged: no
> > > > Pages:  4
> > > > Encrypted:  no
> > 
> > they're not encrypted, so can you open them with evince/xpdf?  I'm not
> 
> Yes.
> 
> > sure what the problem is, I thought you were just trying to cross the
> > hurdle of getting them to allow d/l. Or do you need to confirm the
> > signatures?
> 
> The main hurdle was indeed getting it to just give me the PDFs, but if
> they are indeed signed, I'd certainly like to be able to verify
> the signatures, and I'm also just curious now as to why the plugin isn't
> being called for these PDFs as it is for others.

with the binary in another location, maybe the plugin is failing and
control passes on to another mechanism within iceweasel. Try running
iceweasel from the command line (or check ~/.xsession-errors) to see
if anything pertinent shows up. also, I don't know how iceweasel
handles these things, but if there is a mime entry for .pdf that
points to evince, maybe those get called before the plugins? heck,
maybe the pluginb just doesn't work, too...

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Re: bash expansion crap...

2007-10-02 Thread ss11223
On Oct 2, 3:40 pm, Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Hey folks, help me out with this...please
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ for i in {1..3}; do echo $i; done
> 1
> 2
> 3
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ TEST=3; for i in {1..$TEST}; do echo $i; done
> {1..3}
>
> in the first example, its obvious. In the second, $TEST gets replaced
> with 3, but then the {} doesn't get expanded. I'm sure I have to do
> some kind of wacky $({[ type thing, but I'm not able to grok it. any
> ideas?
>
> the purpose is to be able to easily update some loops in a script for
> different numbers of object to iterate over. obvious, I guess.
>
> A
>
>  signature.asc
> 1KDownload

This works for me, BASH can do arithmetic!

 TEST=3;  for (( i=1; i<=$TEST; i++)); do echo $i; done

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cxoffice graphical resolution

2007-10-02 Thread remigio
Hi,
I've installed cxoffice 6.0.0 professional on my Debian Etch and it
runs fine.
When I launch a windows application (i.e. Microsoft Access) cxoffice
executes it at a too higher graphical resolution and I can't read the
screen!
How may I set the resolution lower?
Thanks.

Remigio


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Re: bash expansion crap...

2007-10-02 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 12:48:04PM -0700, Mike Bird wrote:
> On Tuesday 02 October 2007 11:49, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> > Hey folks, help me out with this...please
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ for i in {1..3}; do echo $i; done
> > 1
> > 2
> > 3
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ TEST=3; for i in {1..$TEST}; do echo $i; done
> > {1..3}
> >
> >
> > in the first example, its obvious. In the second, $TEST gets replaced
> > with 3, but then the {} doesn't get expanded. I'm sure I have to do
> > some kind of wacky $({[ type thing, but I'm not able to grok it. any
> > ideas?
> >
> > the purpose is to be able to easily update some loops in a script for
> > different numbers of object to iterate over. obvious, I guess.
> 
> From man bash:
> 
>Brace expansion is performed before any other expansions, and any 
> char???
>acters  special to other expansions are preserved in the result.  It is
>strictly textual.  Bash does not apply any syntactic interpretation  to
>the context of the expansion or the text between the braces.
> 
> This is not pretty but it works:
> 
>TEST=3; for i in $(eval echo {1..$TEST}); do echo $i; done

Andrew,

This I why I use phthon for such scripts.  Its much prettier.

[UNTESTED, but enough to point you in the right direction]
I added a sample sanity check.


#! /usr/bin/python

import os

try:
TEST_env = os.environ['TEST']
except KeyError:
print "TEST environment variable not set"
os.exit()

try:
TEST = int(TEST_env)
except ValueError:
print "TEST environment variable not an integer"
os.exit()

# do whatever other sanity checks you want.

### without sanity checkes, this would be:
# TEST = int(os.environ['TEST'])

for i in range(1, (TEST + 1)):
print i

###

### Without sanity checks and a one-liner:

for i in range(1, (int(os.environ['TEST']) +1)): print i



Doug.


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Re: bash expansion crap...

2007-10-02 Thread Ken Irving
On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 11:49:16AM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ for i in {1..3}; do echo $i; done
> 1
> 2
> 3

I don't get that result (you did say 'bash', right?):

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/ 0$  for i in {1..3}; do echo $i; done
{1..3}

Hmm... that was on a sarge system, with bash 2.05b-26; on a sid box,
bash 3.1dfsg-8, I do get your result.

> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ TEST=3; for i in {1..$TEST}; do echo $i; done
> {1..3}
> 
> 
> in the first example, its obvious. In the second, $TEST gets replaced
> with 3, but then the {} doesn't get expanded. I'm sure I have to do
> some kind of wacky $({[ type thing, but I'm not able to grok it. any
> ideas? 

I don't see the {1..3} construct in bash(1), so not sure how it's working
for you in the first place.  Brace expansion is a different animal,
not applicable to what you're doing.  But that was on sarge... On sid,
the construct is described (26% into the manpage):

   A sequence expression takes the form {x..y}, where x and y are either 
integers
   or single characters.  When integers are supplied, the expression  expands  
to
   each  number  between  x  and y, inclusive.  When characters are supplied, 
the
   expression expands to each character lexicographically between x and y, 
inclu-
   sive.  Note that both x and y must be of the same type.

I think this is to taken at face value, and the parameters have to be
integers (or characters), and not variables which would expand to same.
I'm not a bash basher, but the language has its share of quirks (and
then some).  I've been pushing at it quite a bit, though, and there's
a lot you can get done using bash.

> the purpose is to be able to easily update some loops in a script for
> different numbers of object to iterate over. obvious, I guess.

Maybe the for loop would be appropriate?

   for (( expr1 ; expr2 ; expr3 )) ; do list ; done
  First,  the  arithmetic  expression expr1 is evaluated according to the
  rules described below  under  ARITHMETIC  EVALUATION.   The  arithmetic
  ...

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Re: bash expansion crap...

2007-10-02 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 12:48:04PM -0700, Mike Bird wrote:
> On Tuesday 02 October 2007 11:49, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> > Hey folks, help me out with this...please
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ for i in {1..3}; do echo $i; done
> > 1
> > 2
> > 3
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ TEST=3; for i in {1..$TEST}; do echo $i; done
> > {1..3}
> >
> >
> > in the first example, its obvious. In the second, $TEST gets replaced
> > with 3, but then the {} doesn't get expanded. I'm sure I have to do
> > some kind of wacky $({[ type thing, but I'm not able to grok it. any
> > ideas?
> >
> > the purpose is to be able to easily update some loops in a script for
> > different numbers of object to iterate over. obvious, I guess.
> 
> From man bash:
> 
>Brace expansion is performed before any other expansions, and any char‐
>acters  special to other expansions are preserved in the result.  It is
>strictly textual.  Bash does not apply any syntactic interpretation  to
>the context of the expansion or the text between the braces.
> 
> This is not pretty but it works:
> 
>TEST=3; for i in $(eval echo {1..$TEST}); do echo $i; done

okay, yeah. thanks. that's sure annoying.

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Re: P-II ASUS box won't boot another drive

2007-10-02 Thread Mumia W..

On 10/02/2007 11:48 AM, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:

Hello all,

I bought an 8 GB drive for my P-II so that I don't have to scrimp so 
much when installing (see previous theads).  I also found a 1.1 GB 
drive.  The box used to have an 8 GB drive that died last year.


This computer seems very picky over what drives it will actually boot. 
The origional 8 GB and the new 8GB drive are the same WD.  The 1.1 GB is 
also a WD.  Of the drives, it will only boot an 850 MB Quantum.


I tried all the different geometry settings (NORMAL, LBA, LARGE) and 
reinstalled Etch and OpenBSD each time.  No boots.  Put in the 850 MB, 
install Etch, boots OK.


Has anyone run into this before?  My IBM PS/ValuePoint 486 will boot 
all of the drives no problem.


As it is now, my 486 has the two WD drives so has lots of room for OBSD 
(since Etch won't install).


Doug.




Beware of the 1024th-cylinder limit on machines like those. Create a 
small (<512MB) /boot partition to contain the kernel and other files for 
booting.


If /boot doesn't work, try using Lilo rather than Grub.

If Lilo fails, create a MSDOS partition at the head of the disk and 
install syslinux onto it; see if you can get syslinux to boot the OS 
(this might be moderately challenging, since syslinux is designed for 
boot floppies).


If syslinux fails, consider wiping the MBR and attempting the install 
all over again.


There are also some more exotic boot loaders available with Debian, chas 
and palo.


I wish you well on your adventures with old equipment :-)



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Re: FLOSS support for signed PDFs

2007-10-02 Thread Celejar
On Tue, 2 Oct 2007 11:13:12 -0700
Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 12:45:58PM -0400, Celejar wrote:
> > On Mon, 01 Oct 2007 12:49:13 -0500
> > John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > > I wrote:
> > > > How are they doing this detection [of Acroread]?
> > > 
> > > Celejar writes:
> > > > I don't know.
> > > 
> > > I suggest you concentrate your efforts on finding out (and publish your
> > > results, of course).  Once you can spoof their detection method you can 
> > > get
> > > them to send you the files which you should be able to read despite the
> > > signature.  Verifying the signature can come later.
> > 
> > I installed the linux tarball (as a non-priveleged user, and to a
> > non-standard location under $HOME, to minimize pollution), and dropped
> > the plugin (nppdf.so) into $HOME/.mozilla/plugins (I'm using IW), which
> > was enough for the website to accept my system as having Acrobat
> > installed.  I assume it was the plugin that did it, since I doubt there
> > were any heuristics that could have found the files I installed under
> > $HOME/some_location.
> > 
> > Oddly enough, when I try to download PDFs from the institution's site,
> > the plugin doesn't pick them up, although IW recognizes them as "PDF
> > documents", and "about:plugins" shows Acrobat as being installed.  [IW
> > only offers to open the PDFs with the default app (Evince) or to save
> > them to disk]. 
> > 
> > pdfinfo gives:
> > 
> > > Producer:   iText by lowagie.com (r1.02b;p128)
> > > CreationDate:   Tue Oct  2 11:39:33 2007
> > > ModDate:Tue Oct  2 11:39:33 2007
> > > Tagged: no
> > > Pages:  4
> > > Encrypted:  no
> 
> they're not encrypted, so can you open them with evince/xpdf?  I'm not

Yes.

> sure what the problem is, I thought you were just trying to cross the
> hurdle of getting them to allow d/l. Or do you need to confirm the
> signatures?

The main hurdle was indeed getting it to just give me the PDFs, but if
they are indeed signed, I'd certainly like to be able to verify
the signatures, and I'm also just curious now as to why the plugin isn't
being called for these PDFs as it is for others.

> A

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Re: cdrecord vs. wodim again

2007-10-02 Thread Wayne Topa
steef([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
>
> hi all and *especially jörg s., long-term initiator of cdrecord and 
> cdrtools*.
>
> two weeks ago i asked on this list 'what is better': cdrecord or wodim. on 
> one of the responses i answered that the most recent version of 
> cdrecord/cdr-tools completely damaged two brandnew cdrom's. jörg asked me 
> for more info: and here comes some.
>
> 1. only one cd/dvd-burner om my machine produced this undesirable effect. a 
> couple of other burners worked flawlessly with the most recent bêta of jörg 
> sch.
> so it could be that jörg did not make this beta recognize this burner: see 
> /dev/hdb (from dmesg |less): 
> hda: MAXTOR STM3250820A, ATA DISK drive
> hdb: Optiarc DVD RW AD-7173A, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
> ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
> Probing IDE interface ide1...
> hdc: ST3120026A, ATA DISK drive

Right!  Neither cdrecord or wodim can burn to a _Hard Disk_.
>
> a good day to you all,
>
And to you.

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Re: bash expansion crap...

2007-10-02 Thread Mike Bird
On Tuesday 02 October 2007 11:49, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> Hey folks, help me out with this...please
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ for i in {1..3}; do echo $i; done
> 1
> 2
> 3
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ TEST=3; for i in {1..$TEST}; do echo $i; done
> {1..3}
>
>
> in the first example, its obvious. In the second, $TEST gets replaced
> with 3, but then the {} doesn't get expanded. I'm sure I have to do
> some kind of wacky $({[ type thing, but I'm not able to grok it. any
> ideas?
>
> the purpose is to be able to easily update some loops in a script for
> different numbers of object to iterate over. obvious, I guess.

From man bash:

   Brace expansion is performed before any other expansions, and any char‐
   acters  special to other expansions are preserved in the result.  It is
   strictly textual.  Bash does not apply any syntactic interpretation  to
   the context of the expansion or the text between the braces.

This is not pretty but it works:

   TEST=3; for i in $(eval echo {1..$TEST}); do echo $i; done

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Re: disks available

2007-10-02 Thread Nyizsnyik Ferenc
On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 16:50:23 +0200
Ivan Glushkov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> a simple question: Is there a way under linux, as a user (i.e.
> without superuser privileges) to find out how many hard drives are
> physically connected on the computer? I am not interested in the info
> given by /etc/fstab or by the df command, since both of them are
> showing mounted disks, which is not what I want...
> 
>   Thanks in advance,
>   Ivan
> 
> 

lshw (and lshw-gtk) is a good tool to find out things about hardware.
It doesn't need root privileges.

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Re: FLOSS support for signed PDFs

2007-10-02 Thread Amit Uttamchandani
Hey there,

Just came across this small utility. It might help. Install 'pdftk' from 
aptitude or apt-get. I was using it this morning to combine pdf files. It has a 
'decrypt' option. I am not sure if this is for passwords or it can work for the 
signed pdfs. Hopefully it works. Check it out.

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Re: capping the apt-getting of packages from ftp.xy.debian.org to < 50KBps?

2007-10-02 Thread Alex Samad
On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 10:07:17AM +0100, Frank Wilson wrote:
> I seem to find it hard to get a decent speed for any of the ftp
> archive mirrors. I've tried using net-select but I rarely get over
> 50KBps and often get less than 30KBps (big B stands for bytes here!).
> I have considered using axel instead of wget with apt-get (to increase
> my download speed by downloading in parallel), but if debian is
> capping the download speed on its servers by this much then I would
> not like to "hammer" them by trying to circumvent the cap.
> 
> I only have a couple of computers running debian so running a local
> mirror might be a bit overkill.
> 
> Are downloads from the debian package archive capped? Is there an apt
> setting I may have missed? It could be my isp, but I'd like to rule
> these out before I spend a fortune on their tech support line. 8-)
> 
> Thanks for any help or advice you can give me,
I haven't seen any sort of limiting, I use the .au mirrors. You might want to 
look at apt-cache, point all of your machines to your apt-cache server
> 
> Frank
> 
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bash expansion crap...

2007-10-02 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
Hey folks, help me out with this...please

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ for i in {1..3}; do echo $i; done
1
2
3
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ TEST=3; for i in {1..$TEST}; do echo $i; done
{1..3}


in the first example, its obvious. In the second, $TEST gets replaced
with 3, but then the {} doesn't get expanded. I'm sure I have to do
some kind of wacky $({[ type thing, but I'm not able to grok it. any
ideas? 

the purpose is to be able to easily update some loops in a script for
different numbers of object to iterate over. obvious, I guess.


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Re: webcam html and ftp servers: restricting access

2007-10-02 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 03:34:57AM -0500, Russell L. Harris wrote:
> * Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [071002 00:28]:
> > On Mon, Oct 01, 2007 at 11:49:35PM -0500, Russell L. Harris wrote:
> >> * Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [071001 23:00]:
> >>> On Mon, Oct 01, 2007 at 07:30:06PM -0500, Russell L. Harris wrote:
>  * Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [071001 17:42]:
> > I'm not sure if motion is what you really need, but it seems like a
> > close enough fit, at the outset, that its worth more of your time to
> > investigate it.
> 
> Andrew,
> 
> Motion looks good; it has been a long time since I last looked at it.
> I now am printing out and reading the manual/wiki and the FAQ.
> 
> To get started with motion, would I likely be OK with the Debian
> packages, which are 3.2.3 in the testing repository, or should I
> install the 3.2.8 release from SourceForge?

read the changelogs to see if they apply to your use. I'd choose .deb
over source myself, but that's my preference. There are a couple
issues that plague me that I haven't bothered to pursue yet -- the app
borks if it runs out of storage space and has to be restarted, and
sometimes I lose one of my three cameras, but a lot of those issues
may be a flaky driver and a lack of really good USB busses on the
machine. Start with the debs and move up if you need it. 

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cdrecord vs. wodim again

2007-10-02 Thread steef



hi all and *especially jörg s., long-term initiator of cdrecord and 
cdrtools*.


two weeks ago i asked on this list 'what is better': cdrecord or wodim. 
on one of the responses i answered that the most recent version of 
cdrecord/cdr-tools completely damaged two brandnew cdrom's. jörg asked 
me for more info: and here comes some.


1. only one cd/dvd-burner om my machine produced this undesirable 
effect. a couple of other burners worked flawlessly with the most recent 
bêta of jörg sch.
so it could be that jörg did not make this beta recognize this burner: 
see /dev/hdb (from dmesg |less): 


hda: MAXTOR STM3250820A, ATA DISK drive
hdb: Optiarc DVD RW AD-7173A, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
Probing IDE interface ide1...
hdc: ST3120026A, ATA DISK drive


my machine: ($lspci -v)

0:00.0 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Host Bridge (rev a2)
  Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Unknown device 81c0
  Flags: bus master, 66MHz, fast devsel, latency 0
  Capabilities: 

00:00.1 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 0 (rev a2)
  Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Unknown device 81c0
  Flags: 66MHz, fast devsel

00:00.2 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 1 (rev a2)
  Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Unknown device 81c0
  Flags: 66MHz, fast devsel

00:00.3 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 5 (rev a2)
  Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Unknown device 81c0
  Flags: 66MHz, fast devsel

00:00.4 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 4 (rev a2)
  Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Unknown device 81c0
  Flags: bus master, 66MHz, fast devsel, latency 0

00:00.5 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Host Bridge (rev a2)
  Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Unknown device 81c0
  Flags: bus master, 66MHz, fast devsel, latency 0
  Capabilities: 

00:00.6 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 3 (rev a2)
  Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Unknown device 81c0
  Flags: 66MHz, fast devsel

00:00.7 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 2 (rev a2)
  Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Unknown device 81c0
  Flags: 66MHz, fast devsel

00:02.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation C51 PCI Express Bridge (rev a1) 
(prog-if 00 [Normal decode])

  Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0
  Bus: primary=00, secondary=01, subordinate=01, sec-latency=0
  I/O behind bridge: d000-dfff
  Memory behind bridge: fd80-fd8f
  Prefetchable memory behind bridge: fd70-fd7f
  Capabilities: 

00:03.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation C51 PCI Express Bridge (rev a1) 
(prog-if 00 [Normal decode])

  Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0
  Bus: primary=00, secondary=02, subordinate=02, sec-latency=0
  I/O behind bridge: b000-bfff
  Memory behind bridge: fde0-fdef
  Prefetchable memory behind bridge: fdd0-fddf
  Capabilities: 

00:04.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation C51 PCI Express Bridge (rev a1) 
(prog-if 00 [Normal decode])

  Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0
  Bus: primary=00, secondary=03, subordinate=03, sec-latency=0
  I/O behind bridge: e000-efff
  Memory behind bridge: fdc0-fdcf
  Prefetchable memory behind bridge: fd90-fd9f
  Capabilities: 

00:05.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation C51PV [GeForce 
6150] (rev a2) (prog-if 00 [VGA])

  Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Unknown device 81cd
  Flags: bus master, 66MHz, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 58
  Memory at fc00 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M]
  Memory at e000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M]
  Memory at fb00 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M]
  [virtual] Expansion ROM at 5000 [disabled] [size=128K]
  Capabilities: 

00:09.0 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation MCP51 Host Bridge (rev a2)
  Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Unknown device 81c0
  Flags: bus master, 66MHz, fast devsel, latency 0
  Capabilities: 

00:0a.0 ISA bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP51 LPC Bridge (rev a3)
  Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Unknown device 81c0
  Flags: bus master, 66MHz, fast devsel, latency 0

00:0a.1 SMBus: nVidia Corporation MCP51 SMBus (rev a3)
  Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Unknown device 81c0
  Flags: 66MHz, fast devsel, IRQ 5
  I/O ports at 4c00 [size=64]
  I/O ports at 4c40 [size=64]
  Capabilities: 

00:0a.2 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation MCP51 Memory Controller 0 (rev a3)
  Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Unknown device 81c0
  Flags: 66MHz, fast devsel

00:0b.0 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation MCP51 USB Controller (rev a3) 
(prog-if 10 [OHCI])

  Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Unknown device 81c0
  Flags: bus master, 66MHz, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 217
  Memory at fe02f000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable)

Re: capping the apt-getting of packages from ftp.xy.debian.org to < 50KBps?

2007-10-02 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 10:07:17AM +0100, Frank Wilson wrote:
> I seem to find it hard to get a decent speed for any of the ftp
> archive mirrors. I've tried using net-select but I rarely get over
> 50KBps and often get less than 30KBps (big B stands for bytes here!).
> I have considered using axel instead of wget with apt-get (to increase
> my download speed by downloading in parallel), but if debian is
> capping the download speed on its servers by this much then I would
> not like to "hammer" them by trying to circumvent the cap.

I gather that you've tried several different mirrors, right? What kind
of d/l speed do you get using any of the free bandwidth testers? 

> 
> I only have a couple of computers running debian so running a local
> mirror might be a bit overkill.

its not a big deal and once setup, then the second machine to d/l a
package gets it pretty much instantly. Couple that with machines
running cron-apt and you you pretty much never see a real download,
only the cached copies. I am using approx. ymmv.

> 
> Are downloads from the debian package archive capped? Is there an apt
> setting I may have missed? It could be my isp, but I'd like to rule
> these out before I spend a fortune on their tech support line. 8-)

I doubt its an apt setting. most likely you're hitting some
bottle-neck between you and the repository. I don't know if any of the
repositories are capped, but depending on when you do stuff, they may
just be getting hit pretty hard. There are lots of variables in the
transaction and it'd be hard to pin down much beyond those things
*you* have control of -- local network settings, choice of repo, etc.

there used to be an app called apt-spy that would test the repos and
find the fastest one for you, but i *think* its dead ATM. 

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Re: SuperTux displays blank screen on launch

2007-10-02 Thread Amit Uttamchandani
Hi thanks for the reply.

I tried --sdl option and --opengl but still to no avail. I tried googling and 
it looks like some others have experienced the problem but I can't seem to find 
a concrete solution to it.

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Re: FLOSS support for signed PDFs

2007-10-02 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 12:45:58PM -0400, Celejar wrote:
> On Mon, 01 Oct 2007 12:49:13 -0500
> John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > I wrote:
> > > How are they doing this detection [of Acroread]?
> > 
> > Celejar writes:
> > > I don't know.
> > 
> > I suggest you concentrate your efforts on finding out (and publish your
> > results, of course).  Once you can spoof their detection method you can get
> > them to send you the files which you should be able to read despite the
> > signature.  Verifying the signature can come later.
> 
> I installed the linux tarball (as a non-priveleged user, and to a
> non-standard location under $HOME, to minimize pollution), and dropped
> the plugin (nppdf.so) into $HOME/.mozilla/plugins (I'm using IW), which
> was enough for the website to accept my system as having Acrobat
> installed.  I assume it was the plugin that did it, since I doubt there
> were any heuristics that could have found the files I installed under
> $HOME/some_location.
> 
> Oddly enough, when I try to download PDFs from the institution's site,
> the plugin doesn't pick them up, although IW recognizes them as "PDF
> documents", and "about:plugins" shows Acrobat as being installed.  [IW
> only offers to open the PDFs with the default app (Evince) or to save
> them to disk]. 
> 
> pdfinfo gives:
> 
> > Producer:   iText by lowagie.com (r1.02b;p128)
> > CreationDate:   Tue Oct  2 11:39:33 2007
> > ModDate:Tue Oct  2 11:39:33 2007
> > Tagged: no
> > Pages:  4
> > Encrypted:  no

they're not encrypted, so can you open them with evince/xpdf?  I'm not
sure what the problem is, I thought you were just trying to cross the
hurdle of getting them to allow d/l. Or do you need to confirm the
signatures?

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URGENT: Intel Corporation Q963/Q965 : xorg problem

2007-10-02 Thread Stephane Durieux
Hello,

I have a serious problem with Q963/Q965 graphic intel
card. I use the driver i810 and everything seems ok
except when I try to switch from X to console and to
back to X.
Then the display seems to be desynchronised.

I have tried a X restart but without success ... 
The only thing wich succeeds is to reboot 

Here are the logs that could help :

(WW) I810(0): Successfully set original devices (WW)
I810(0): Setting the original video mode instead of
restoring
the saved state
(WW) I810(0): Extended BIOS function 0x5f05 not
supported.
(II) I810(0): BIOS call 0x5f05 not supported, setting
refresh with VBE 3 method.(II) I810(0):
xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 8 (II) I810(0):
xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 0
(II) I810(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 1
(II) I810(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 3
(II) I810(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 2
(II) I810(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 4
(II) I810(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 5
(II) I810(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 6
(II) I810(0): xf86UnbindGARTMemory: unbind key 7
(WW) I810(0): Successfully set original devices (2)
(II) I810(0): [drm] removed 1 reserved context for
kernel
(II) I810(0): [drm] unmapping 8192 bytes of SAREA
0xf8a9c000 at 0xb7b0f000


At the beginning, I have suspected a problem with the
keyboard cause I have a message describing a problem
with setkeycode .
So I tried getkeycodes which returned :

Plain scancodes xx (hex) versus keycodes (dec)
0 is an error; for 1-88 (0x01-0x58) scancode equals
keycode

KDGETKEYCODE: Aucun périphérique de ce type
failed to get keycode for scancode 0x5a
 0x58:   88  89

But, when I replace i810 by vga driver the problem
disappears ... 

can someone help me ...



Stephane Durieux 




  
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Re: Possible Interrupt problem?

2007-10-02 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 01:41:04AM -0400, Eric Estes wrote:
> I recently purchased a Shuttle XPC SN27P2 which uses the Nvidia nForce
> 570 Ultra chipset. Getting Debian installed (or any other distro) is
> easy enough and my onboard NIC is detected (Marvell 88E1116) but my
> network speed is as slow or slower than dial-up.
> 
> I've turned off the onboard NIC in the BIOS and installed an Intel NIC
> and it was also detected fine but my speeds are still just as slow.
> 
> I've tried multiple distros with the same success: Debian 4.0r0,
> Debian 4.0r1, Debian Lenny, Kubuntu 7.04 (Live CD), CentOS 5.0,
> Knoppix v5.1 (Live CD) and Sabayon (Live CD). The only distro that has
> my network speeds working properly is PCLinuxOS 2007 (Live CD).

I don't know.  I would install sysstat as a good tool for this sort of
thing.  

For comparision, you could try OpenBSD.

Doug.


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Re: webcam html and ftp servers: restricting access

2007-10-02 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Mon, Oct 01, 2007 at 10:22:25PM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
 
> so turn off remote control of the motion app and just put up the web
> images. As I said originally, I'm sure you could tunnel it through ssh
> if you wanted, though what the use of that is, i don't know. make use
> of dynamic dns, and then you can surf to the web image whenever you
> want. Now, that puts your images in the public view, and I'm not sure
> how to avoid that as motion doesn't seem to authenticate for viewing,
> just for controlling. You'll have to research that a bit. 

I've never run a web server but I do use ssh a lot.

Could you use putty from Windows to run ssh?  Can it forward X somehow
to Windows (never used a recent windows)?

If I was doing this remotely from a unix/linux box, I'd run ssh -X and
run a web browser on the local (webcam) box and have it display on my
remote box.  I don't know if windows can do this.

This would permit the remote 'pull' with full security.

As for having the webcam app mail you notice of motion, it could just
email you the picture too.

Doug.


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disks available

2007-10-02 Thread Ivan Glushkov

Hi all,

a simple question: Is there a way under linux, as a user (i.e. without 
superuser privileges) to find out how many hard drives are physically 
connected on the computer? I am not interested in the info given by 
/etc/fstab or by the df command, since both of them are showing mounted 
disks, which is not what I want...


Thanks in advance,
Ivan


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Re: Gnome delete user

2007-10-02 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Tue, Oct 02, 2007 at 12:23:19PM -0500, Jim Hall wrote:
> Background: Two Etch installs literally accross the street from each
> other with different owners. Mixed up my notes and installed a user
> account from the first on the second. The Gnome user manager tool won't
> remove the home directory (I don't know if that's the only thing it
> won't remove). I would really like to completely remove the user before
> adding the correct one so I can show the owner a GUI way of doing it.
> BTW, "completely" means not a speck or trace of the removed user left.
> 
> Question: Is there what might be called an "industrial strength" GUI
> user manager tool that will remove a user as though it never existed?
> 

I would guess that it follows the /etc/deluser.conf file's options with
default to not removing the home directory.

Why not just remove it as root?

Doug.


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gpib

2007-10-02 Thread Ólafur Jens Sigurðsson
Hi

I am trying to get the gpib kernel modules to compile on my computer by
using the debian package but when issuing the module-assistant auto-install
gpib command I get the follwing errors:

dh_clean
find /usr/src/modules/gpib \( -name '*.[oas]' -o -name '*.ko' \
-o -name core -o -name '.*.cmd' \) -type f -exec rm -f {} \;
pyversions: missing XS-Python-Version in control file, fall back to
debian/pyver
sions
pyversions: missing debian/pyversions file, fall back to supported versions
/usr/bin/make  -f debian/rules kdist_clean kdist_config binary-modules
pyversions: missing XS-Python-Version in control file, fall back to
debian/pyver
sions
pyversions: missing debian/pyversions file, fall back to supported versions
make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/modules/gpib'
dh_clean
find /usr/src/modules/gpib \( -name '*.[oas]' -o -name '*.ko' \
-o -name core -o -name '.*.cmd' \) -type f -exec rm -f {} \;
for templ in ; do \
cp $templ `echo $templ | sed -e 's/_KVERS_/2.6.22-2-k7/g'` ; \
  done
for templ in `ls debian/*.modules.in` ; do \
test -e ${templ%.modules.in}.backup || cp ${templ%.modules.in}
${templ%.modu
les.in}.backup 2>/dev/null || true; \
sed -e 's/##KVERS##/2.6.22-2-k7/g ;s/#KVERS#/2.6.22-2-k7/g ;
s/_KVERS_/2.6.2
2-2-k7/g ; s/##KDREV##/2.6.22-4/g ; s/#KDREV#/2.6.22-4/g ;
s/_KDREV_/2.6.22-4/g
 ' < $templ > ${templ%.modules.in}; \
  done
dh_testdir
dh_testroot
dh_clean -k
/usr/bin/make -C /lib/modules/2.6.22-2-k7/build V=1 MODVERSIONS=detect
modules\
CC="gcc-4.1 -I/usr/src/modules/gpib
-I/usr/src/modules/gpib/include" \
SUBDIRS=" /usr/src/modules/gpib/agilent_82350b/
/usr/src/modules/gpib/agilent_82357a/  /usr/src/modules/gpib/cb7210/
/usr/src/modules/gpib/cec/  /usr/src/modules/gpib/hp82335/
/usr/src/modules/gpib/hp_82341/  /usr/src/modules/gpib/ines/
/usr/src/modules/gpib/nec7210/  /usr/src/modules/gpib/pc2/
/usr/src/modules/gpib/sys/  /usr/src/modules/gpib/tms9914/
/usr/src/modules/gpib/tnt4882/  /usr/src/modules/gpib/ni_usb/" \
MODVERDIR="/usr/src/modules/gpib/.tmp-versions"
make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.22-2-k7'
test -e include/linux/autoconf.h -a -e include/config/auto.conf ||
(\
echo;   \
echo "  ERROR: Kernel configuration is invalid.";   \
echo " include/linux/autoconf.h or include/config/auto.conf
are missing.";  \
echo " Run 'make oldconfig && make prepare' on kernel src to
fix it.";  \
echo;   \
/bin/false)
mkdir -p /usr/src/modules/gpib/.tmp-versions
rm -f /usr/src/modules/gpib/.tmp-versions/*
/usr/bin/make -f scripts/Makefile.build
obj=/usr/src/modules/gpib/agilent_82350b
  gcc-4.1 -I/usr/src/modules/gpib -I/usr/src/modules/gpib/include
-Wp,-MD,/usr/src/modules/gpib/agilent_82350b/.agilent_82350b_init.o.d
-nostdinc -isystem /usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.1.3/include -D__KERNEL__
-Iinclude  -include include/linux/autoconf.h -Wall -Wundef
-Wstrict-prototypes -Wno-trigraphs -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common  -Os
-pipe -msoft-float -mregparm=3 -freg-struct-return
-mpreferred-stack-boundary=2  -march=athlon -ffreestanding
-maccumulate-outgoing-args -DCONFIG_AS_CFI=1 -DCONFIG_AS_CFI_SIGNAL_FRAME=1
-Iinclude/asm-i386/mach-default -fomit-frame-pointer  -fno-stack-protector
-Wdeclaration-after-statement -Wno-pointer-sign   -DMODULE
-D"KBUILD_STR(s)=#s" -D"KBUILD_BASENAME=KBUILD_STR(agilent_82350b_init)"
-D"KBUILD_MODNAME=KBUILD_STR(agilent_82350b)" -c -o
/usr/src/modules/gpib/agilent_82350b/.tmp_agilent_82350b_init.o
/usr/src/modules/gpib/agilent_82350b/agilent_82350b_init.c
/usr/src/modules/gpib/agilent_82350b/agilent_82350b_init.c: In function
'agilent_82350b_generic_attach':
/usr/src/modules/gpib/agilent_82350b/agilent_82350b_init.c:289: warning:
'deprecated_irq_flag' is deprecated (declared at
include/linux/interrupt.h:66)
/usr/src/modules/gpib/agilent_82350b/agilent_82350b_init.c:289: warning:
passing argument 2 of 'request_irq' from incompatible pointer type
  gcc-4.1 -I/usr/src/modules/gpib -I/usr/src/modules/gpib/include
-Wp,-MD,/usr/src/modules/gpib/agilent_82350b/.agilent_82350b_read.o.d
-nostdinc -isystem /usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.1.3/include -D__KERNEL__
-Iinclude  -include include/linux/autoconf.h -Wall -Wundef
-Wstrict-prototypes -Wno-trigraphs -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common  -Os
-pipe -msoft-float -mregparm=3 -freg-struct-return
-mpreferred-stack-boundary=2  -march=athlon -ffreestanding
-maccumulate-outgoing-args -DCONFIG_AS_CFI=1 -DCONFIG_AS_CFI_SIGNAL_FRAME=1
-Iinclude/asm-i386/mach-default -fomit-frame-pointer  -fno-stack-protector
-Wdeclaration-after-statement -Wno-pointer-sign   -DMODULE
-D"KBUILD_STR(s)=#s"
-D"KBUILD_BASENAME=KBUILD_STR(agilennt_82350b/agilent_82350b_init.c
/usr/src/modules/gpib/agilent_82350b/agilent_82350b_init.c: In function
'agilent_82350

Re: Etch-backports and gpg problems (SOLVED)

2007-10-02 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Tue, Sep 25, 2007 at 08:37:12AM -0500, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was 
heard to say:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> What about:
> sudo (command_1 | command_2)

  Won't work -- the ()s are shell metacharacters, and sudo knows
nothing about them.  What you would need to do this with just one
sudo is something like:

sudo sh -c "command_1 | command_2"

  with appropriate wariness towards quoting gremlins.

  Daniel


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Re: Debian packages without md5sums

2007-10-02 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 05:37:51AM +, Felix Karpfen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was 
heard to say:
> >> But How do you use the key(s) listed in "/etc/apt/trusted.gpg" to
> >> authenticate the individual installed packages. 
> > 
> > Oh, dpkg automatically checks it for you when you use apt-get/aptitude
> > to install package.  (Unless you disable it.)
> 
> So is the answer to my question:
> 
>   "use aptitude and not Synaptic" for installing packages?

  It shouldn't matter which frontend you use.  All the major frontends
check the signature of the Release file when you download package lists
from the archive.  The Release file contains a cryptographic checksum
for the Packages file, which contains checksums for each individual .deb
package.

  dpkg performs no key checking, at least on packages in the Debian
archive.  There was some experimental code to stick embedded signatures
into .deb files, but I don't know what it's status is and packages
containing signatures aren't allowed in the archive last I heard.

  Daniel


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cdrecord vs. wodim again

2007-10-02 Thread steef


hi all and *especially jörg s., long-term initiator of cdrecord and 
cdrtools*.


two weeks ago i asked on this list 'what is better': cdrecord or wodim. 
on one of the responses i answered that the most recent version of 
cdrecord/cdr-tools completely damaged two brandnew cdrom's. jörg asked 
me for more info: and here comes some.


1. only one cd/dvd-burner om my machine produced this undesirable 
effect. a couple of other burners worked flawlessly with the most recent 
bêta of jörg sch.
so it could be that jörg did not make this beta recognize this burner: 
see /dev/hdb (from dmesg |less): 


hda: MAXTOR STM3250820A, ATA DISK drive
hdb: Optiarc DVD RW AD-7173A, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
Probing IDE interface ide1...
hdc: ST3120026A, ATA DISK drive


my machine: ($lspci -v)

0:00.0 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Host Bridge (rev a2)
   Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Unknown device 81c0
   Flags: bus master, 66MHz, fast devsel, latency 0
   Capabilities: 

00:00.1 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 0 (rev a2)
   Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Unknown device 81c0
   Flags: 66MHz, fast devsel

00:00.2 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 1 (rev a2)
   Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Unknown device 81c0
   Flags: 66MHz, fast devsel

00:00.3 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 5 (rev a2)
   Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Unknown device 81c0
   Flags: 66MHz, fast devsel

00:00.4 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 4 (rev a2)
   Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Unknown device 81c0
   Flags: bus master, 66MHz, fast devsel, latency 0

00:00.5 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Host Bridge (rev a2)
   Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Unknown device 81c0
   Flags: bus master, 66MHz, fast devsel, latency 0
   Capabilities: 

00:00.6 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 3 (rev a2)
   Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Unknown device 81c0
   Flags: 66MHz, fast devsel

00:00.7 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation C51 Memory Controller 2 (rev a2)
   Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Unknown device 81c0
   Flags: 66MHz, fast devsel

00:02.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation C51 PCI Express Bridge (rev a1) 
(prog-if 00 [Normal decode])

   Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0
   Bus: primary=00, secondary=01, subordinate=01, sec-latency=0
   I/O behind bridge: d000-dfff
   Memory behind bridge: fd80-fd8f
   Prefetchable memory behind bridge: fd70-fd7f
   Capabilities: 

00:03.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation C51 PCI Express Bridge (rev a1) 
(prog-if 00 [Normal decode])

   Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0
   Bus: primary=00, secondary=02, subordinate=02, sec-latency=0
   I/O behind bridge: b000-bfff
   Memory behind bridge: fde0-fdef
   Prefetchable memory behind bridge: fdd0-fddf
   Capabilities: 

00:04.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation C51 PCI Express Bridge (rev a1) 
(prog-if 00 [Normal decode])

   Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0
   Bus: primary=00, secondary=03, subordinate=03, sec-latency=0
   I/O behind bridge: e000-efff
   Memory behind bridge: fdc0-fdcf
   Prefetchable memory behind bridge: fd90-fd9f
   Capabilities: 

00:05.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation C51PV [GeForce 
6150] (rev a2) (prog-if 00 [VGA])

   Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Unknown device 81cd
   Flags: bus master, 66MHz, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 58
   Memory at fc00 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M]
   Memory at e000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M]
   Memory at fb00 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M]
   [virtual] Expansion ROM at 5000 [disabled] [size=128K]
   Capabilities: 

00:09.0 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation MCP51 Host Bridge (rev a2)
   Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Unknown device 81c0
   Flags: bus master, 66MHz, fast devsel, latency 0
   Capabilities: 

00:0a.0 ISA bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP51 LPC Bridge (rev a3)
   Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Unknown device 81c0
   Flags: bus master, 66MHz, fast devsel, latency 0

00:0a.1 SMBus: nVidia Corporation MCP51 SMBus (rev a3)
   Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Unknown device 81c0
   Flags: 66MHz, fast devsel, IRQ 5
   I/O ports at 4c00 [size=64]
   I/O ports at 4c40 [size=64]
   Capabilities: 

00:0a.2 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation MCP51 Memory Controller 0 (rev a3)
   Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Unknown device 81c0
   Flags: 66MHz, fast devsel

00:0b.0 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation MCP51 USB Controller (rev a3) 
(prog-if 10 [OHCI])

   Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Unknown device 81c0
   Flags: bus master, 66MHz, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ

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Re: FLOSS support for signed PDFs

2007-10-02 Thread Celejar
On Mon, 01 Oct 2007 12:49:13 -0500
John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I wrote:
> > How are they doing this detection [of Acroread]?
> 
> Celejar writes:
> > I don't know.
> 
> I suggest you concentrate your efforts on finding out (and publish your
> results, of course).  Once you can spoof their detection method you can get
> them to send you the files which you should be able to read despite the
> signature.  Verifying the signature can come later.

I installed the linux tarball (as a non-priveleged user, and to a
non-standard location under $HOME, to minimize pollution), and dropped
the plugin (nppdf.so) into $HOME/.mozilla/plugins (I'm using IW), which
was enough for the website to accept my system as having Acrobat
installed.  I assume it was the plugin that did it, since I doubt there
were any heuristics that could have found the files I installed under
$HOME/some_location.

Oddly enough, when I try to download PDFs from the institution's site,
the plugin doesn't pick them up, although IW recognizes them as "PDF
documents", and "about:plugins" shows Acrobat as being installed.  [IW
only offers to open the PDFs with the default app (Evince) or to save
them to disk]. 

pdfinfo gives:

> Producer:   iText by lowagie.com (r1.02b;p128)
> CreationDate:   Tue Oct  2 11:39:33 2007
> ModDate:Tue Oct  2 11:39:33 2007
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Re: SuperTux displays blank screen on launch

2007-10-02 Thread Matthew K Poer
On Tuesday 02 October 2007 3:15 am, Amit Uttamchandani wrote:
> Hey guys,
>
> Recently installed Debian Etch on an old PowerBook G4. Running beautifully.
> I installed supertux from aptitude and install went fine. I tried launching
> but all I get is a blank screen. I can hear the sounds but that is it.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks.
>
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Supertux freezes up for me, too, but only when using it with OpenGL mode. Try 
running 'supertux -sdl' for the SDL rendering, instead of OpenGL.

I don't think OpenGL is the default, but this sounds like the problem you are 
having. Let us know if it works.

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Re: Emacs and python programming language

2007-10-02 Thread Pál Csányi
2007/10/1, Levi Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> On Mon, 2007-10-01 at 20:26 +0200, Pál Csányi wrote:
> > But, it seems to me that that Emacs has no major mode for the python 
> > language.
> > Is it true? :(
>
> no it's not, do apt-get install -y python-mode to install it.

Thanks! I installed it and open in Emacs a program.py.
The Python mode appears automatically. :)

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Gnome delete user

2007-10-02 Thread Jim Hall

Background: Two Etch installs literally accross the street from each
other with different owners. Mixed up my notes and installed a user
account from the first on the second. The Gnome user manager tool won't
remove the home directory (I don't know if that's the only thing it
won't remove). I would really like to completely remove the user before
adding the correct one so I can show the owner a GUI way of doing it.
BTW, "completely" means not a speck or trace of the removed user left.

Question: Is there what might be called an "industrial strength" GUI
user manager tool that will remove a user as though it never existed?

Thanks,
Jim



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Re: etch + xp

2007-10-02 Thread Marcelo Chiapparini
On Tue, 2007-10-02 at 05:10 +0530, Raj Kiran Grandhi wrote:
> Marcelo Chiapparini wrote:
> > 
> > But I want to install XP in another disk, different from which etch is
> > installed. So XP will install its own bootmanager into the mbr of this
> > different disk. Am I wright? Remember that I can tell the bios from what
> > disk the system boots. I gues I can use this in order to make the system
> > boot from the second disk, where XP is being installed, making XP ignore
> > the disk where etch is installed.
> > 
> 
> The safest way to do this:
> 
> Disconnect your disk with linux (hdc)
> 
> Install windows as you normally would on your other hard disk (hdd). The 
> windows installer will write its boot loader onto the master boot record 
> of hdd.
> 
> After windows is installed and working, reconnect your linux disk (hdc).
> 
> Ensure that the boot order in bios is set to boot from hdc. Boot into 
> linux, edit '/boot/grub/menu.lst' and add an entry for windows:
> 
> title Microsoft Windows XP Professional
> root  (hd1,0)
> savedefault
> makeactive
> map   (hd0) (hd1)
> map   (hd1) (hd0)
> chainloader   +1
> 
> The 'map' lines are required because windows can only boot from the 
> first hard disk.

Thank you! My brother told me to do the some thing. Your information on
how to tell grub to discover XP is really valuable.

Regards

Marcelo


> HTH,
> rajkiran
> 
> 
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P-II ASUS box won't boot another drive

2007-10-02 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
Hello all,

I bought an 8 GB drive for my P-II so that I don't have to scrimp so
much when installing (see previous theads).  I also found a 1.1 GB
drive.  The box used to have an 8 GB drive that died last year.

This computer seems very picky over what drives it will actually boot.
The origional 8 GB and the new 8GB drive are the same WD.  The 1.1 GB is
also a WD.  Of the drives, it will only boot an 850 MB Quantum.

I tried all the different geometry settings (NORMAL, LBA, LARGE) and
reinstalled Etch and OpenBSD each time.  No boots.  Put in the 850 MB,
install Etch, boots OK.

Has anyone run into this before?  My IBM PS/ValuePoint 486 will boot
all of the drives no problem.

As it is now, my 486 has the two WD drives so has lots of room for OBSD
(since Etch won't install).

Doug.


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Re: PATH to java in X11

2007-10-02 Thread Liam O'Toole
On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 05:46:01 +0530
Raj Kiran Grandhi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Henrique G. Abreu wrote:
> > I'm running Lenny.
> > I've inserted the lines to .bashrc as you sad
> > but it only worked to the terminal
> > it had no effect in gnome (eg: using Alt+F2)
> > 
> > I inserted 'source /etc/profile' directly into
> > /etc/X11/Xsession.d/55gnome-session_gnomerc
> > 
> > and it's working now!
> > I still want to know the correct way to do this.
> > if you someone knows, please send.
> 
> Create a file .xsession in your home directory with the following:
> ===cut===
> source ~/.bashrc
> PATH=
> exec gnome-session
> ===cut===
> 
> Log out of gnome and log back in specifying the session as "User 
> default" or some such thing in the gdm menu.
> 
> HTH,
> rajkiran
> 
> 

Another approach is to run .xsession in a login shell:

#!/bin/sh -l
exec gnome-session

Then your X session will inherit your full profile.

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Re: PATH to java in X11

2007-10-02 Thread Nyizsnyik Ferenc
On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 20:39:28 -0300
"Henrique G. Abreu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I've created /etc/environment file like this
> JAVA_HOME="/opt/jdk1.5.0_12"
> export JAVA_HOME

There's no need to export the variables defined in /etc/environment...

> PATH="$PATH:$JAVA_HOME/bin"
> export PATH

...nor is to set them in $PATH. Try creating an /etc/environment file
consisting only 
JAVA_HOME=/opt/jdk1.5.0_12
It should work from then on.

> The first time I started and logged into gdm, it failed.
> Then I went to /etc/ and changed environment permissions.
> Ok, I managed to log in, but PATH doesn't have /opt/jdk1.5.0_12/bin
> I can't run a program that uses java from the menu link
> Only if a open gnome-terminal with any user and call the program, it
> works.

So when you type for example
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the program "example" starts? Then it works. Menu links can be edited
to include the full path to java like
Exec=java example
==>
Exec=/opt/jdk1.5.0_12/bin/java example

This has to be done only once.

> I know its possible to make a "workaround" starting everything thought
> terminal, but it's horrible!
> Or go to "/usr/bin" and "ln -s ..." everything in JAVA_HOME/bin
> but that is not the point, I MUST know how to set PATH variable
> because its ridiculous. I no windows user.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> On 9/30/07, Henrique G. Abreu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > In my /etc there is no environment file
> > Must I create one?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > On 9/30/07, Nyizsnyik Ferenc <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> > >
> > > On Sun, 30 Sep 2007 12:01:57 -0300
> > > "Henrique G. Abreu" < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I've read many forums and threads in debian lists, but no
> > > > solution worked to me.
> > > >
> > > > I've downloaded and unpacked to /opt the jdk1.5.0_12
> > > > I didn't used apt-get because I need this specific version.
> > > >
> > > > Then, I need to set java environment variables globally
> > > > And include /opt/jdk1.5.0_12/bin to PATH
> > > >
> > > > I inserted in /etc/bash.bashrc:
> > > > export PATH=$PATH:/opt/jdk1.5.0_12/bin
> > > >
> > > > it works to all terminals, but don't to X11
> > > > for example: I can't start Azureus from menu link
> > > >
> > > > Then I tried /etc/profile
> > > > but it didn't work either
> > > >
> > > > thanks,
> > >
> > > I have the following line in /etc/environment:
> > > JAVA_HOME=/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun
> > >
> > > I hope this helps.
> > >
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Re: problem with postfix and libsasl2

2007-10-02 Thread Daniele Salatti
Hi,
I used apt to set up everything. How could this appen?

Daniele

2007/10/1, Florian Kulzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> On Mon, Oct 01, 2007 at 00:14:42 +0200, Daniele Salatti wrote:
> > Hi!
> > I'm trying to set up a mailserver on Debian etch for the first time, but
> I
> > have a problem: every time I restart postfix I get this message:
> >
> > /usr/sbin/postconf: /usr/local/lib/libsasl2.so.2: no version information
> > available (required by /usr/sbin/postconf)
> >
> > Any idea on how can I fix it? I can't use SASL...
>
> Where does /usr/local/lib/libsasl2.so.2 come from? The libsasl2-2
> package puts the library and this symlink into /usr/lib/. (Debian
> packages never touch the /usr/local/... directories.) You seem to have
> a non-Debian library installed which is broken.
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Re: problem with postfix and libsasl2

2007-10-02 Thread Daniele Salatti
Already installed...

2007/10/1, Miles Bader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> You need to install the package "libsasl2-modules".
>
> -Miles
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capping the apt-getting of packages from ftp.xy.debian.org to < 50KBps?

2007-10-02 Thread Frank Wilson
I seem to find it hard to get a decent speed for any of the ftp
archive mirrors. I've tried using net-select but I rarely get over
50KBps and often get less than 30KBps (big B stands for bytes here!).
I have considered using axel instead of wget with apt-get (to increase
my download speed by downloading in parallel), but if debian is
capping the download speed on its servers by this much then I would
not like to "hammer" them by trying to circumvent the cap.

I only have a couple of computers running debian so running a local
mirror might be a bit overkill.

Are downloads from the debian package archive capped? Is there an apt
setting I may have missed? It could be my isp, but I'd like to rule
these out before I spend a fortune on their tech support line. 8-)

Thanks for any help or advice you can give me,

Frank


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Re: webcam html and ftp servers: restricting access

2007-10-02 Thread Russell L. Harris
* Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [071002 00:28]:
> On Mon, Oct 01, 2007 at 11:49:35PM -0500, Russell L. Harris wrote:
>> * Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [071001 23:00]:
>>> On Mon, Oct 01, 2007 at 07:30:06PM -0500, Russell L. Harris wrote:
 * Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [071001 17:42]:
> I'm not sure if motion is what you really need, but it seems like a
> close enough fit, at the outset, that its worth more of your time to
> investigate it.

Andrew,

Motion looks good; it has been a long time since I last looked at it.
I now am printing out and reading the manual/wiki and the FAQ.

To get started with motion, would I likely be OK with the Debian
packages, which are 3.2.3 in the testing repository, or should I
install the 3.2.8 release from SourceForge?

RLH


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SuperTux displays blank screen on launch

2007-10-02 Thread Amit Uttamchandani
Hey guys,

Recently installed Debian Etch on an old PowerBook G4. Running beautifully. I 
installed supertux from aptitude and install went fine. I tried launching but 
all I get is a blank screen. I can hear the sounds but that is it.

Any ideas?

Thanks.

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Re: Recommended MPLAYER config for old computers

2007-10-02 Thread Amit Uttamchandani
Hey there,

Thanks for the reply.

> 
> ~/.mplayer/config:
> 
> vo=xv
> ao=alsa
> cache=4096 (but this was due to playing some .avi from network drive)
> autoq=6
> vf=pp
> framedrop=yes
> 

I tried out the settings but it still doesn't seem to help. I get a bunch of 
these errors repeatedly.

a52: CRC check failed!
a52: error at resampling
a52: CRC check failed!  5.666 ct:  0.295 138/135 13%  5% 100.0% 127 0 1%
a52: error at resampling
a52: CRC check failed!
a52: error at resampling

I'm guessing this is due to the speed.

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