Re: Disc d'arranc pel Debian
El dj 03 de 01 del 2008 a les 00:22 +0100, en/na Roger Baig Viñas va escriure: Voldria poder arrancar el Debian des d'un CD-Rom o un DVD. Ara el tinc instal·lat en una partició, i arranca amb el Grub, però com que no faig cas de la gran màxima informàtica Si alguna cosa funciona NO LA TOQUIS , de tant en tant em trobo amb el sistema bloquejat i he de desempolsar el poc que sabia d'Unix per intentar salvar el que es pugui. amb qualsevol disc d'instal·lació hi ha l'opció d'arrancar en rescue mode, que és el que necessites. Inicialment, es fan les mateixes preguntes que per una instal·lació estàndard (idioma, teclat, etc.) però a partir d'un punt divergeix: se't demanarà quina partició vols muntar com a arrel, i llavors se t'obrirà una sessió de consola per poder remenar el que vulguis. Gràcies a tots, sobretot per la rapidesa. Suposava que una de les solucions es la que proposa el Roger, però a l'intentar arrancar des del DVD de la distro no arribava fins al punt divergent. Provaré també la sol·lució del disquet. Gràcies i bon any! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Disc d'arranc pel Debian
On 1/3/08, Daniel Elias wrote: El dj 03 de 01 del 2008 a les 00:22 +0100, en/na Roger Baig Viñas va escriure: Voldria poder arrancar el Debian des d'un CD-Rom o un DVD. Ara el tinc instal·lat en una partició, i arranca amb el Grub, però com que no faig cas de la gran màxima informàtica Si alguna cosa funciona NO LA TOQUIS , de tant en tant em trobo amb el sistema bloquejat i he de desempolsar el poc que sabia d'Unix per intentar salvar el que es pugui. amb qualsevol disc d'instal·lació hi ha l'opció d'arrancar en rescue mode, que és el que necessites. Inicialment, es fan les mateixes preguntes que per una instal·lació estàndard (idioma, teclat, etc.) però a partir d'un punt divergeix: se't demanarà quina partició vols muntar com a arrel, i llavors se t'obrirà una sessió de consola per poder remenar el que vulguis. Gràcies a tots, sobretot per la rapidesa. Suposava que una de les solucions es la que proposa el Roger, però a l'intentar arrancar des del DVD de la distro no arribava fins al punt divergent. per arribar a aquest punt divergent s'ha de tecleja rescue a la línia de comandes de l'inici (F1 per l'ajuda). Aquí hi ha unes captures del procés: http://www.howtoforge.com/linux_lvm_snapshots_p3 Provaré també la sol·lució del disquet. Gràcies i bon any! -- roger
[Résolu] controlleur usb 1.x ou 2.0 ?
Merci de vos réponses, et surtout pour le script. Étant donné que celui-ci m'a dit que mon port usb était en 480Mb/s, j'ai donc cherché d'autres choses: - la carte mère est en 2.0 - le périphérique est reconnu en 480Mb/s J'ai donc regardé un peu tout, et j'ai vu deux choses la première, c'est que je passe par un hub usb. J'ai branché directement sur la carte mère, mais là, rien n'y fait. J'ai ensuite eut la bonne idée de regarder dans le fstab, et j'ai enlevé l'option SYNC. C'est un peu plus dangereux, il faut démonter proprement, mais ça à l'air de bien mieux fonctionner. Je vous remercie tous pour votre aide. Amicalement Nicolas Folin -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianFrench Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Résolu] controlleur usb 1.x ou 2.0 ?
Le jeu 03 jan 2008 09:01:50 CET, Nicolas Folin [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : J'ai ensuite eut la bonne idée de regarder dans le fstab, et j'ai enlevé l'option SYNC. C'est un peu plus dangereux, il faut démonter proprement, mais ça à l'air de bien mieux fonctionner. Je ne sais pas ce que tu utilises pour monter/démonter ton disque, mais pour ma part, pour ma clé USB, j'utilise un auto-monteur (autofs) avec un timeout très petit (3 secondes) et sans l'option sync ... au bout de 3 secondes sans utilisation de la clé, elle est démontée automatiquement (ce qui peut prendre un certain temps). Fred.
Re: Liste debian et Spam.
Bonjour a tous (et bonne annee) pourquoi tu ne mets pas un reverse DNS avec un domaine à toi (maison.homelinux.net par exemple)? L'argument du moment est que si on ne fait pas d'efforts pour mettre un rDNS non générique, alors on ne sait pas si ton IP change de main en main (on ne peut donc pas la mettre dans une liste blanche), et comme il y a pas mal de virus sur les réseaux maison, la seule façon de faire est de les bloquer (je ne suis ni pour ni contre, bien au contraire :). Excusez-moi par avance de la naiveté de ma question. Comment faire un reverse DNS avec DynDNS, quand on est chez un FAI, et que l'on a un compte DynDNS ? Je croyais que c'etait systematique ? -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianFrench Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Liste debian et Spam.
Le Thu, 3 Jan 2008 09:46:24 +0100 (CET) Debian liste FR [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit: Excusez-moi par avance de la naiveté de ma question. Comment faire un reverse DNS avec DynDNS, quand on est chez un FAI, et que l'on a un compte DynDNS ? Je croyais que c'etait systematique ? Chez free, on peut personaliser le reverse DNS (dans la console de gestion). François Boisson -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianFrench Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Liste debian et Spam.
Debian liste FR wrote: Bonjour a tous (et bonne annee) pourquoi tu ne mets pas un reverse DNS avec un domaine à toi (maison.homelinux.net par exemple)? L'argument du moment est que si on ne fait pas d'efforts pour mettre un rDNS non générique, alors on ne sait pas si ton IP change de main en main (on ne peut donc pas la mettre dans une liste blanche), et comme il y a pas mal de virus sur les réseaux maison, la seule façon de faire est de les bloquer (je ne suis ni pour ni contre, bien au contraire :). Excusez-moi par avance de la naiveté de ma question. Comment faire un reverse DNS avec DynDNS, quand on est chez un FAI, et que l'on a un compte DynDNS ? Je croyais que c'etait systematique ? non, pour faire un rDNS conforme, il faut d'un coté: - que le propriétaire de l'IP soit d'accord - que le propriétaire du domaine soit d'accord donc, ça se fait en plusieurs étapes: 1- d'abord, mettre le forward: hostname - IP. 2- attendre que ça se propage. 3- demander la mise du reverse. chez free, la mise du reverse se fait dans l'interface d'admin de la freebox. il est conseillé de copier la valeur du reverse actuel, au cas où on regrette et qu'on ne veut plus de reverse custom (il suffit alors de remettre l'original). -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianFrench Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Liste debian et Spam.
Pour les autres opérateurs, Il faut demander au support technique de ton FAI. Ils pourront te faire cela, théoriquement cela doit être une prestation gratuite. (bien sur il te faut une IP FIXE) alex Francois Boisson a écrit : Le Thu, 3 Jan 2008 09:46:24 +0100 (CET) Debian liste FR [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit: Excusez-moi par avance de la naiveté de ma question. Comment faire un reverse DNS avec DynDNS, quand on est chez un FAI, et que l'on a un compte DynDNS ? Je croyais que c'etait systematique ? Chez free, on peut personaliser le reverse DNS (dans la console de gestion). François Boisson -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianFrench Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Liste debian et Spam.
Bonjour Mouss, et merci de ta reponse. chez free, la mise du reverse se fait dans l'interface d'admin de la freebox. il est conseillé de copier la valeur du reverse actuel, au cas où on regrette et qu'on ne veut plus de reverse custom (il suffit alors de remettre l'original). Je viens de faire un tour sur l'interface de la FreeBox, et cela n'est pas proposé. Sans doute est-ce dû a l'IP dynamique et/ou au NON degroupage ... Tant pis. Merci qd meme. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianFrench Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Carte réseau PCMCIA
Bonjour, J'ai recupéré un vieux portable Omnibook XT6200 mais la carte réseau ne fonctionne plus apparemment. Je voudrais prendre une carte réseau PCMCIA et voudrais savoir si vous aviez des modeles à conseiller ou à eviter. N'ayant jamais utilisé des cartes PCMCIA, dois-je prendre certaines précautions particulières ? Merci par avance, -- .''`. Edi Stojicevic (\___/) : :' : GPG: 0x1237B032(='.'=) `. `~' http://www.debianworld.org ()_() `-
Re: Carte réseau PCMCIA
Edi STOJICEVIC a écrit, le 03.01.2008 11:52 : Je voudrais prendre une carte réseau PCMCIA et voudrais savoir si vous aviez des modeles à conseiller ou à eviter. bonjour, il y en a surement beaucoup d'autres plus récentes mais j'ai ça sur toshiba tecra 8100 et ça marche: lspcmcia -v ls 0 Socket 0 Bridge:[yenta_cardbus] (bus ID: :00:0b.0) Configuration: state: on ready: unknown Voltage: 5.0V Vcc: 5.0V Vpp: 0.0V Socket 0 Device 0: [xirc2ps_cs](bus ID: 0.0) Configuration: state: on Product Name: Compaq Netelligent 10/100 PC Card CPQ-10/100 1.00 Identification: manf_id: 0x0183 card_id: 0x010a function: 6 (network) prod_id(1): Compaq (0x54f7c49c) prod_id(2): Netelligent 10/100 PC Card (0xefe96769) prod_id(3): CPQ-10/100 (0x7a590ccf) prod_id(4): 1.00 (0x83dbf271) N'ayant jamais utilisé des cartes PCMCIA, dois-je prendre certaines précautions particulières ? lors de l'install en janvier 2006 j'avais dû ruser pour faire reconnaitre la carte, mais cela à probablement dû évoluer depuis. (cf http://www.coagul.org/article.php3?id_article=158#forum622 ) cordialement hého. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianFrench Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Carte réseau PCMCIA
Edi STOJICEVIC a écrit, le 03.01.2008 11:52 : N'ayant jamais utilisé des cartes PCMCIA, dois-je prendre certaines précautions particulières ? ah oui sinon, je la débranche à chaud sans problème quand par exemple je mets à la place une pcmcia wifi. le temp que le kernel reconnaisse la nouvelle carte puis un /etc/init.d/network restart et ça repart. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianFrench Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Impression PDF et The Gimp
Bonjours la liste et bonne année, J'ai récemment voulu convertir une image en PDF dans The Gimp en passant par imprimer dans un fichier PDF mais visiblement The Gimp ne me propose pas cette fonctionnalité. Je précise que j'ai bien installé une imprimante avec CUPS-PDF et le pilote PostScript Printer, mais Gimp (v2.4) refuse de la voir. (même après avoir redémarré CUPS). Est-ce que j'aurais oublié quelque chose par hasard? Peut-être qu'il y a une manière particulière de configurer The Gimp? Quelqu'un a-t'il déjà configuré ceci? Leon -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianFrench Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Impression PDF et The Gimp
On 03.01.2008 14:45, Leon Gray wrote: Bonjours la liste et bonne année, J'ai récemment voulu convertir une image en PDF dans The Gimp en passant par imprimer dans un fichier PDF mais visiblement The Gimp ne me propose pas cette fonctionnalité. Je précise que j'ai bien installé une imprimante avec CUPS-PDF et le pilote PostScript Printer, mais Gimp (v2.4) refuse de la voir. (même après avoir redémarré CUPS). Est-ce que j'aurais oublié quelque chose par hasard? Peut-être qu'il y a une manière particulière de configurer The Gimp? Quelqu'un a-t'il déjà configuré ceci? Leon Bonjour, J'ai la même configuration et aucun problème de reconnaissance de l'imprimante PDF de cups, ni configuration particulière de gimp... As-tu les droits sur cette imprimante et est-elle visible dans les autres applications ? @ + Mourad -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianFrench Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Impression PDF et The Gimp
C. Mourad Jaber a écrit : On 03.01.2008 14:45, Leon Gray wrote: Bonjours la liste et bonne année, J'ai récemment voulu convertir une image en PDF dans The Gimp en passant par imprimer dans un fichier PDF mais visiblement The Gimp ne me propose pas cette fonctionnalité. Je précise que j'ai bien installé une imprimante avec CUPS-PDF et le pilote PostScript Printer, mais Gimp (v2.4) refuse de la voir. (même après avoir redémarré CUPS). Est-ce que j'aurais oublié quelque chose par hasard? Peut-être qu'il y a une manière particulière de configurer The Gimp? Quelqu'un a-t'il déjà configuré ceci? Leon Bonjour, J'ai la même configuration et aucun problème de reconnaissance de l'imprimante PDF de cups, ni configuration particulière de gimp... As-tu les droits sur cette imprimante et est-elle visible dans les autres applications ? @ + Mourad J'ai laissé les droits à tous les utilisateurs pour cette imprimante et elle fonctionne avec toute les autres applications que j'ai pu tester (openoffice, kate, kpdf, etc...). En revanche, il semblerait que l'imprimante aie des problèmes avec les logiciels basés sur le traitement de l'image. The Gimp ne vois pas l'imprimante, Kompozer plante lorsque je veux faire une impression, showPhoto et KolourPaint effectuent mal la convertion au format PDF lorsque j'imprime. quelqu'un voit-il d'où cela peut-il venir? -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianFrench Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[GNOME] Menu Applications Autre
Bonjour, ... Bonne année à tous. J'observe sur une machine sous testing/unstable que mon menu GNOME Applications Autre est rempli d'éléments, parfois même de doublons, de triplets... Et quand je dis remplis, je suis loin du compte. Sous une machine similaire au boulot (mais avec seulement quelques paquets de unstable), j'ai au contraire un menu très léger, comprenant quelques éléments qui n'appartiennent à aucune autre entrée. La première machine est sous Debian depuis Potato, La seconde depuis Etch. J'imagine que je traîne quelques casseroles sur la première. Je ne connais pas bien le fonctionnement de la construction des menus, aussi quelqu'un saurait-il comment je peux réinitialiser ou nettoyer drastiquement ce menu ? J'ai bien joué un peu avec alacarte, mais il me faudrait y passer une heure... Merci, -- David. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianFrench Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: transfer configuration serveur vers un nouveau
Bulot Grégory wrote: En fait je me posais la question pour le cas particulier du etc/shadow, le mot de passe sont cryptés, si je copie les entrée du shadow de trinity dans le shadow de persephone : y aura-t-il un problème de validation des mots de passe ça ne devrait pas poser de problème. Il n'y a de problèmes que si le second système ne connait pas la représentation utilisé sur le premier (genre si tu copies des password au format MD5 sur un vieux unix qui n'a que le crypt() DES). en tout cas, c'est facile à tester. tu ajoute un utilisateur sur la première, tu copies sur la seconde (juste les bonnes lignes de /etc/passwd et /etc/shadow) et tu testes. je copie les fichier avec rsync et ssh, les uid-GID d'origine (ceux de trinity) sont gardés sur persephone si tu fais le rsync après la copie des utilisateurs, rsync te donne l'option d'utiliser les ids ou les noms. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianFrench Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: non-dpkg owned copy of the libc6-i686
Vincent Gay wrote: mais apt-get -f install me dit : -- [...] Dépaquetage de libc6 (à partir de .../archives/libc6_2.7-5_i386.deb) ... A non-dpkg owned copy of the libc6-i686 package was found. It is not safe to upgrade the C library in this situation; please remove that copy of the C library and try again. Ça, c'est le gros problème. Une fois passé ça, tu pourras installer le reste (même si tu auras probablement besoin de packages de testing et/ou unstable) Ce message est dû à un ancien bug (de mémoire 'de l'installeur') qui a, à une époque, installé des packages sans le dire à dpkg. Résultat, tu te retrouve avec une libc6-i686 installé sur ton système sans que dpkg soit au courant. Pour l'instant, c'est bénin car libc6 (vu par dpkg) et libc6-i686 installé mais ignoré par dpkg sont relatifs à la même version majeure (2.6) Si tu demandes la mise à jour de libc6, dpkg est d'accord et ne voit pas de conflict. Or, il devrait : libc6-i686 a un pre-depend sur la libc6 correspondante pour une bonne raison. Une libc6 2.7.x avec une libc6-i686 2.6.y rend un système incapable de lancer presque n'importe quelle application. Il y a eu des rapports de bugs à cause de ça. Résultat, les maintainers de la libc6 ont ajouté une vérification à l'installation de la libc6 pour détecter le problème et arrêter tout avant que ça soit vraiment tout cassé. Dans le changelog : * debhelper.in/libc.preinst: check for non-dpkg owned versions of libc6-i686 before upgrade. Closes: #454557. La solution, virer la libc6-i686 installé sur le système mais pas enregistré par dpkg: mv /lib/i686 /lib/i686.old Et, une fois installé la libc6, je te conseille d'installer aussi libc6-i686 (au pire, tu perds un peu de place libre, mais généralement tu obtiens une libc mieux optimisée pour ton système) [tu peux ensuite faire le 'rm /lib/i686.old' s'il n'y a pas eu de pb supplémentaires] Et le mieux serait de faire un rapport de bug 'wishlist' pour que le message d'erreur de la libc6 2.7 donne une URL décrivant comment résoudre ce problème. [j'ai la flemme de le faire pour ma part :-) ] A+ Vincent -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianFrench Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: non-dpkg owned copy of the libc6-i686
Vincent Danjean a écrit : Ce message est dû à un ancien bug (de mémoire 'de l'installeur') qui a, à une époque, installé des packages sans le dire à dpkg. Résultat, tu te retrouve avec une libc6-i686 installé sur ton système sans que dpkg soit au courant. Pour l'instant, c'est bénin car libc6 (vu par dpkg) et libc6-i686 installé mais ignoré par dpkg sont relatifs à la même version majeure (2.6) ../.. La solution, virer la libc6-i686 installé sur le système mais pas enregistré par dpkg: Gloups, trop tard Sur la foi des derniers post j'ai essayé de modifier mon source.list et de repasser en etch apt-get -f install m'a proposé de faire le ménage, ce que j'ai malencontreusement accepté, et le chateau de carte s'est écroulé. Même plus possible de redémarrer. Réinstallation en cours. J'aurai du être plus patient Merci quand même
ralentir fermeture de la session
bonjour, je cherche à ralentir la fermeture de ma session, car ça coupe la jolie musique de 10 secondes que j'y ai associé. Comment faire (hormis fais un petit shell avec shutdown et sleep) ? Je voudrais modifier le programme de fermeture. Cordialement pmd
root perdu
Bonjour, Et bien voilà en voulant installer un nouveau shell, je suis allé un peu vite et j'ai fait une belle grosse bourde. Du coup je ne peux plus me logguer en tant que root. J'ai alors le message suivant: Impossible d'exécuter zsh: Aucun fichier ou répertoire de ce type Et ensuite je reviens au prompt de login... Comment puis-je de nouveau me relogguer en tant que root ? et donc réparer mes bêtises par la suite -- @ + Christophe MUSSEAU ossau.net (sous Etch)
Re: Configuration d'un DNS et forward
On Sat, Dec 29, 2007 at 10:52:18PM +0100, Thierry Leurent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote a message of 41 lines which said: j'ai du ajouter ces lignes dans le fichier de config de mon dns pour la zone asgardian.be. 60gp.ovh.net IN A 213.186.33.19 Il manque le point à la fin de 609gp.ovh.net donc si le serveur de noms est BIND, il a complété avec le nom de la zone, ce qui ne doit pas donner le résultat attendu. Mais, surtout, pourquoi diable indiquer l'adresse IP de la machine d'OVH ? Elle est déjà dans le DNS d'OVH. Un simple : www IN CNAME 60gp.ovh.net. devrait suffire (notez le point à la fin). Cela veut dire que je dois recréer la structure de DNS de ovh pour que cela fonctionne. Non. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianFrench Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: root perdu
OoO La nuit ayant déjà recouvert d'encre ce jour du jeudi 03 janvier 2008, vers 23:49, Christophe MUSSEAU [EMAIL PROTECTED] disait: Et bien voilà en voulant installer un nouveau shell, je suis allé un peu vite et j'ai fait une belle grosse bourde. Du coup je ne peux plus me logguer en tant que root. J'ai alors le message suivant: Impossible d'exécuter zsh: Aucun fichier ou répertoire de ce type Et ensuite je reviens au prompt de login... Comment puis-je de nouveau me relogguer en tant que root ? et donc réparer mes bêtises par la suite Si tu peux te logguer en tant qu'utilisateur, tu peux ensuite utiliser su -m pour te logguer en tant que root. Si tu ne peux pas te logguer en tant qu'utilisateur, il va falloir aller modifier /etc/passwd manuellement. Il me semble que le mode single te donne un shell arbitraire. Donc demande à booter en mode single (deuxième entrée dans Grub). Si cela ne fonctionne pas, tu dois booter en init=/bin/sh puis : mount -o remount,rw / vi /etc/passwd (modifie le shell de root) mount -o remount,ro / (reboote) Pour booter en init=/bin/sh, positionne toi sur l'entree de ton noyau dans Grub, tape sur e, positionne toi sur la ligne kernel, de nouveau e et ajoute init=/bin/sh en fin de ligne, entrée, entrée. -- BOFH excuse #388: Bad user karma. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianFrench Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cliente ftp con soporte socks v4,5
Hola queridos debianitas. Alguien me puede aconsejar algún cliente ftp con soporte de socks? Utilizo el gftp, pero este en particular creo que no tiene soporte para socks. Y el fileZilla? En este no he encontrado donde configurar el usuario socks nos vemos.
Re: cliente ftp con soporte socks v4,5
El día 3/01/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: Hola queridos debianitas. Alguien me puede aconsejar algún cliente ftp con soporte de socks? Utilizo el gftp, pero este en particular creo que no tiene soporte para socks. Y el fileZilla? En este no he encontrado donde configurar el usuario socks nos vemos. Podrías hecharle una mirada a http://www.iglooftp.com/linux/features.html que en sus caracteristicas nombran Enhanced Firewall support Including built-in SOCKSV5 protocol support with authentication methods, TIS Firewall Toolkit support (ftp-gw), WinGate FTP proxy and SOCKS proxy support as well as WinProxy support and many other firewalls. Saludos
Desensamblador Grafico
Alguien conoce o trabajó con algún desensamblador gráfico ? Usé gdb en modo texto, pero me gustaria usar algun front-end gráfico. Bajé kdbg (front-end de gdb), y lo puedo usar como depurador. Pero nose como hacer que desensamble. Muchas Gracias. Saludos
Re: Desensamblador Grafico
2008/1/3, Pablo Santamaria [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Alguien conoce o trabajó con algún desensamblador gráfico ? Usé gdb en modo texto, pero me gustaria usar algun front-end gráfico. Bajé kdbg (front-end de gdb), y lo puedo usar como depurador. Pero nose como hacer que desensamble. Muchas Gracias. Saludos Yo alguna vez he utilizado biew (consola), pero ¿has probado x86dis? parece ser gráfico y está en los repos. Saludos
Re: Desensamblador Grafico
El jue, 03-01-2008 a las 12:00 -0200, Pablo Santamaria escribió: Alguien conoce o trabajó con algún desensamblador gráfico ? Usé gdb en modo texto, pero me gustaria usar algun front-end gráfico. Bajé kdbg (front-end de gdb), y lo puedo usar como depurador. Pero nose como hacer que desensamble. Muchas Gracias. Saludos Puedes usar el ddd, es un front-end para el gdb. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cambio de arquitectura
Pero quien dijo que ia64 es la arquitectura que corresponde? :) Para los x86_64 tenés que usar la rama amd64. Saludos!!! -- Miguel Da Silva Administrador de Red Centro de Matemática - http://www.cmat.edu.uy Facultad de Ciencias - http://www.fcien.edu.uy Universidad de la República - http://www.rau.edu.uy En realidad nadie me lo dijo, lo supuse(es mas ,hasta me parecio obvio,jajaj) pero mas obvio es que me equivoque, les agradezco a los que me contestaron y la proxima leo antes de preguntar(aunque como les decia, me parecio tan obvio que tenia que ser para intel 64 que no se me hubiera ocurrido escarbar por ese lado ). gracias a todos AdeS Marcos Ariel Negrini Caleta Olivia Santa Cruz - Yahoo! Encuentros Ahora encontrar pareja es mucho más fácil, probá el nuevo Yahoo! Encuentros. Visitá http://yahoo.cupidovirtual.com/servlet/NewRegistration
Gambas VirtualBox, QT Apariencia en Gnome
Que paquete debo instalar para que la interfaz de gambas,de virtualbox, , y audacity, se vea con mejor apariencia desde gnome, ya que se ve los menus rústicos y con un gris obscuro, quiero que se vean tal como el de las aplicaciones qt de KDE, hace algún tiempo instale algo y se arreglo,pero ahora no lo recuerdo, puede alguien ayudarme? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Desensamblador Grafico
Ok, llego a casa y los pruebo. Muchas Gracias On Jan 3, 2008 1:28 PM, Jaume Martin Claramonte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: El jue, 03-01-2008 a las 12:00 -0200, Pablo Santamaria escribió: Alguien conoce o trabajó con algún desensamblador gráfico ? Usé gdb en modo texto, pero me gustaria usar algun front-end gráfico. Bajé kdbg (front-end de gdb), y lo puedo usar como depurador. Pero nose como hacer que desensamble. Muchas Gracias. Saludos Puedes usar el ddd, es un front-end para el gdb.
Sintonizadora DAB (Digital Audio Broadcasting) USB en Linux
Hola, me gustaría saber la forma de configurar una sintonizadora USB DAB bajo linux; pasos a seguir, etc... He intentado googlear pero no he visto nada al respecto. ¿Lo pillaría el linux automáticamente o habría que recompilar el kernel? ¿que programa se utilizaría para escuchar la radio? ?cómo? Gracias... -- .---. | Miguel J. Jiménez | | Programador Senior| | Área de Internet | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| :---: | ISOTROL, S.A. | | Edificio BLUENET, Avda. Isaac Newton nº3, 4ª planta. | | Parque Tecnológico Cartuja '93, 41092 Sevilla (ESP). | | Teléfono: +34 955 036 800 (ext.1805) - Fax: +34 955 036 849 | | http://www.isotrol.com| :---: | Una bandera une a los habitantes de un pais bajo unos ideales| | comunes y es por eso por lo que todos ellos deben aceptarlos de | | buena gana y no ser forzados a ello pues entonces dicha bandera | | no serviría de nada. - Emperador Ming, Flash Gordon (1x07)(2007) | '---' signature.asc Description: Esta parte del mensaje está firmada digitalmente
Re: Sintonizadora DAB (Digital Audio Broadcasting) USB en Linux
On 1/3/08, Miguel J. Jimenez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hola, me gustaría saber la forma de configurar una sintonizadora USB DAB bajo linux; pasos a seguir, etc... He intentado googlear pero no he visto nada al respecto. ¿Lo pillaría el linux automáticamente o habría que recompilar el kernel? ¿que programa se utilizaría para escuchar la radio? ?cómo? Gracias... Por favor envia la salida del comando lsusb para identificar el dispositivo y poder ayudarte, tambien seria de ayuda la salida de dmesg tan pronto como insertes el dispositivo en el puerto usb. salu2 fredyrivera -- .---. | Miguel J. Jiménez | | Programador Senior| | Área de Internet | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| :---: | ISOTROL, S.A. | | Edificio BLUENET, Avda. Isaac Newton nº3, 4ª planta. | | Parque Tecnológico Cartuja '93, 41092 Sevilla (ESP). | | Teléfono: +34 955 036 800 (ext.1805) - Fax: +34 955 036 849 | | http://www.isotrol.com| :---: | Una bandera une a los habitantes de un pais bajo unos ideales| | comunes y es por eso por lo que todos ellos deben aceptarlos de | | buena gana y no ser forzados a ello pues entonces dicha bandera | | no serviría de nada. - Emperador Ming, Flash Gordon (1x07)(2007) | '---' -- ~~~ Si quieres cambiar el mundo, Empieza usando GNU/Linux !! -- Software Libre de Gestión Médica mas info en http://galenux.com --
puertos compranet
Buenas tardes. Termine de montar un firewall, Debian+Squid+Dansguardian+ipp2p+sarg+ guarddog+guidedog el problema en el que me encuentro es que en Mexico se utiliza un sistema llamado compraNET para licitaciones, cuando utilizan este sistema tengo que abrir todos los puertos para que pueda funcionar correctamente al igual que en algunos sitios oficiales como http://pda.salud.gob.mx/cubos. ¿Alguno sabe que puertos utilizan estos sistemas?, de antemano gracias. -- Ing. Jesús Armando Paúl Céspedes [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] El signo más evidente de que se ha encontrado la verdad es la paz interior. --
PAQUETES COMBINADOS CON VUELOS REGULARES-BRASIL
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OT algun astronomo aficionado por aqui??
Aupa: Quería empezar con la astrofotografia. Con kstars tengo resueltas el 85% de mis necesidades astronómicas. Ahora bien, todas las referencias que tengo de momento (excepto el astronomy howto y alguna cosa mas) son en propietario. Me interesan metodos y herramientas libres. Con propietario tratan las imagenés captadas de la webcam y las procesan para conseguir mejores imagenes. He mirado este tema poco, pero he pensado que algún listero podía estar metido en astrofotografia. Yo de momento solo puedo hacer planetaria no me da pa mas el tele de 70mm Un saludo BasaBuru
soporte HP PAVILION TX1000
Hola a todos... tengo una laptop HP PAVILION TX1000, no tengo sonido, wireless, y el resto de aplicaciones Alguien me puede dar mano!!! Saludos. -- Douglas Flores. Linux no es Alternativa, es Solución Asterisk Users #1009.
Re: Servidor Debian: Servidor FTP - ProFTPD com suporte TLS/SSL
Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw faw at funlabs.org writes: On 02-01-2008 22:27, PinguimRibeiro wrote: O protocolo ftp é um protocolo inseguro, uma vez que transmite todos os dados (incluindo os nomes de utilizadores e respectivas senhas) em modo de texto, podendo ser facilmente interceptados e capturados por terceiros. No entanto o servidor ProFTPD pode ser configurado de modo a exigir a autenticação dos utilizadores e a encriptação de dados, se for activado o suporte TLS (Transport Layer Security): http://pinguimribeiro.wikidot.com/proftpd-tls-ssl PinguimRibeiro http://pinguimribeiro.wikidot.com/servidor-debian Se for falar de segurança em FTP fale de vsftpd não de ProFTPD. Abraço, -- Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) Debian. Freedom to code. Code to freedom! Olá Felipe, Na configuração que utilizei, a segurança é fornecida pelo layer TLS/SSL, não propriamente pelo ProFTPD. Assim, é tão segura como qualquer outra configuração que utilize TLS/SSL como camada de transporte seguro: https, Imaps, etc. (Configurações utilizadas por milhões diariamente para ver o correio electrónico, apenas para dar um exemplo.) No entanto, quando pretendo algo realmente seguro, utilizo SSH, com o que posso também transferir ficheiros. Abraço PinguimRibeiro http://pinguimribeiro.wikidot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Erro na limpeza de Epson
Em Fri, 28 Dec 2007 22:02:40 -0200 Still [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: escputil -c -r /dev/usb/lp0 Aqui em casa só funciona com o -r, que é raw device. Caramba! Eu tinha digitado o parâmetro -r antes porém, ao contrário: escputil -r -c /dev/usb/lp0 Agora funciona. -- Sávio M Ramos Arquiteto, Rio, RJ Só uso Linux desde 2000 www.debian.org
Re: Notebook gigabyte- Som não funciona.
Bom, eu já tinha olhado todas essas páginas que você citou Júnior, inclusive o wiki do ubuntu, todos sem sucesso. Mas continuei aqui lutando sozinho e fiz o seguinte, juntando as dicas que encontrei: compilei a versão mais nova do alsa ( já tinha feito isso, e não tinha dado em nada) e adicionei a linha options snd-hda-intel model=acer no /etc/modprobe.d/sound e funcionou! (eu já tinha tentado usar auto para a opção model, sem sucesso, resolvi apelar para essa opção acer e deu certo, o notebook é gigabyte, mas o que interessa é que funcionou..rs). Agora, o som está funcionando, o problema agora é outro: Quando coloco headfones nas entradas do notebook, o som não pára de sair nas caixinhas dele, o som sai ao mesmo tempo nas caixas e no headfone e o microfone não funciona. Eu não tenho controle individual dos sons das caixinhas e do headfone no alsamixer e o mic não está mudo, está tudo certo. Esse é o problema agora, estou trabalhando nisso. Junior Polegato - Linux [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: Jonathan Martins escreveu: Olá pessoal ninguém tem nenhuma dica sobre esse problema? Também tem isso: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Gutsy_Intel_HD_Audio_Controller Depois coloca a solução, falou? -- Atenciosamente, Junior Polegato Um peregrino de problemas; Um pergaminho de soluções! Página Profissional: http://www.juniorpolegato.com.br -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] J. R. Martins Linux user number 388562 - Abra sua conta no Yahoo! Mail, o único sem limite de espaço para armazenamento!
Re: BACKUP
Olá hugo, Também percebi que a instalacão cria o banco mas não cria as tabelas, andei procurando no site do bacula um dump da base mas não têm, sabe me dizer se esse dump existe? Valeu Hugo Brites wrote: Viva, Já uso bacula há uns tempos, e estou de momento a usá-lo para fazer backups na empresa. A nível de problemas o que tive dava-me uma mensagem esquisita e depois verifiquei que durante a instalação, estranhamente o script de instalação não tinha criado a base de dados bacula. Criei-a a mão, fiz um purge ao pacotes do bacula e voltei a instala-los, e funcionou. Apenas não me lembro se criei no mysql a conta de utilizador do bacula ou não. Estou com o lenny na máquina de backup's. Cumps Hugo ThEcHaCaL escreveu: Bom tarde lista, Estou implementando uma ferramenta de backup aqui na empresa, escolhi o bacula e fiz a instalacão sem problemas seguindo esse artigo: http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/bacula1.htm Até aí beleza, só que quando vou iniciar o bacula-director ele gera o seguinte erro: morpheus:/etc/bacula/scripts# /etc/init.d/bacula-director start Starting Bacula Director: bacula-dir. morpheus:/etc/bacula/scripts# bacula-dir: dird.c:875 Could not open Catalog MyCatalog, database bacula. bacula-dir: dird.c:880 Query failed: SELECT VersionId FROM Version: ERR=Table 'bacula.Version' doesn't exist 02-Jan 11:43 bacula-dir ERROR TERMINATION Please correct configuration file: /etc/bacula/bacula-dir.conf morpheus:/etc/bacula/scripts# Alguém já passou por isso e/ou usa o bacula? Valeu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fwd: ISO DEBIAN R2
Olá, bom dia Podes fazer Download daki DVD http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/4.0_r2/i386/iso-dvd/ CD http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/4.0_r2/i386/iso-cd/ Silvino Silva
ISO DEBIAN R2
Bom dia... Gostaria de saber onde eu baixo as iso de DVD do Debian 4.0 r2 Att. Israel Lehenen Silva.
Re: ISO DEBIAN R2
Obrigado! On Jan 3, 2008 10:50 AM, debiminho debiminho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Olá, bom dia Podes fazer Download daki DVD http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/4.0_r2/i386/iso-dvd/ CD http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/4.0_r2/i386/iso-cd/ Silvino Silva
Distro para Desktops
Bom dia galera, Estou em um projeto em uma empresa para utilização de Linux nos desktops, o ideal é que essas distros sejam o máximo parecido com Windows. Eu tenho duas opções em mente: -instalar ubuntu com gnome-art e colocar algum tema parecido com o windows -instalar alguma distro parecida com Windows (nao achei nenhuma interessante) Gostaria de saber a opinião de vcs, o q vcs acham que devo colocar? De preferencia que a distribuição seja baseada em Debian, se nao for pedir demais...rsrs Abra sua conta no Yahoo! Mail, o único sem limite de espaço para armazenamento! http://br.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: BACKUP ( RESOLVIDO )
Deu certo pessoal, quando instalei o bacula director ele criou em /usr/share/bacula-director/ os scripts make_mysql_tables, postinst-common e update_mysql_tables . Bastou o primeiro pra base ser construída. Valeu ThEcHaCaL wrote: Olá hugo, Também percebi que a instalacão cria o banco mas não cria as tabelas, andei procurando no site do bacula um dump da base mas não têm, sabe me dizer se esse dump existe? Valeu Hugo Brites wrote: Viva, Já uso bacula há uns tempos, e estou de momento a usá-lo para fazer backups na empresa. A nível de problemas o que tive dava-me uma mensagem esquisita e depois verifiquei que durante a instalação, estranhamente o script de instalação não tinha criado a base de dados bacula. Criei-a a mão, fiz um purge ao pacotes do bacula e voltei a instala-los, e funcionou. Apenas não me lembro se criei no mysql a conta de utilizador do bacula ou não. Estou com o lenny na máquina de backup's. Cumps Hugo ThEcHaCaL escreveu: Bom tarde lista, Estou implementando uma ferramenta de backup aqui na empresa, escolhi o bacula e fiz a instalacão sem problemas seguindo esse artigo: http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/bacula1.htm Até aí beleza, só que quando vou iniciar o bacula-director ele gera o seguinte erro: morpheus:/etc/bacula/scripts# /etc/init.d/bacula-director start Starting Bacula Director: bacula-dir. morpheus:/etc/bacula/scripts# bacula-dir: dird.c:875 Could not open Catalog MyCatalog, database bacula. bacula-dir: dird.c:880 Query failed: SELECT VersionId FROM Version: ERR=Table 'bacula.Version' doesn't exist 02-Jan 11:43 bacula-dir ERROR TERMINATION Please correct configuration file: /etc/bacula/bacula-dir.conf morpheus:/etc/bacula/scripts# Alguém já passou por isso e/ou usa o bacula? Valeu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ferramenta de becape fácil para desktop
On Jan 2, 2008 10:13 PM, Elias Diniz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Olá, Conhecem algum software simples e intuitivo para becape em desktop ?? Algo que um usuário leigo consiga usar :-) Depende para qual midia irá este backup. Eu uso o grsync que copio tudo para um pen para backups corriqueiros. Valeu... Abçs, Zandre.
Re: Distro para Desktops
On Jan 3, 2008 11:22 AM, PGT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bom dia galera, Estou em um projeto em uma empresa para utilização de Linux nos desktops, o ideal é que essas distros sejam o máximo parecido com Windows. Engraçado, tenho um pensamento de que o Gnome é mais parecido com Windows do que qualquer outra coisa, veja o comportamento do clique no mouse, diagrama das janelas, o item no painel Menu Principal, o extract here do file-roller . Enfim, nada de novo vindo como padrão. Mas acredito que o maior problema não será o GNU em si, mas a camada de software que já são utilizados, como navegador, leitor de email, comunicador de mensagens instantâneas, editor de textos, planilhas... Bem, resumindo, vc pode localizar temas como o do horrível XP em gnome-look.org e para KDE kde-look.org. Agora quanto as distros, tudo depende eu pessoalmente não me ligo muito nisto com a exceção do OpenNovel pelo acordo de sua patrocinadora com uma empresa monopolista. Enfim a que você consedirar melhor tá valendo, afinal é tudo GNU. Abçs, Zandre.
programas padrão
ae pessoal, como posso configurar os programas padrão para abrir determinadas extensões de arquivos. por exemplo, aqui o programa padrão para abrir mp3 é o totem, mas queria trocar, assim como outras extensões. como posso fazer isso? obrigadu!
Re: programas padrão
On Jan 3, 2008 12:04 PM, Fabio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ae pessoal, como posso configurar os programas padrão para abrir determinadas extensões de arquivos. por exemplo, aqui o programa padrão para abrir mp3 é o totem, mas queria trocar, assim como outras extensões. como posso fazer isso? O equivoco está que o GNU não utiliza a extensão para determinar com qual aplicativo abrir e sim seu conteúdo. Visualmente no Gnome você pode abrir o propriedades com o botão direito do mouse e ir na aba abrir com... No terminal tem o update-alternatives que lhe dá um controle muito maior. obrigadu! Abçs, Zandre.
Busca no MySQL
Olá Pessoal, Alguém sabe me dizer se nas buscas feitas através de um site fazem destinção de acentos? Ou seja, procurar por tarifação é o mesmo que procurar por tarifacao? Agradeço a atenção dos experts em MySQL :) -- Best regards, Ayesha mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
apt-get
Pessoal, boa tarde. Sou novo na distro debian. Como vcs são mais experientes queria uma orientação. devo sempre rodar o apt-get upgrade? Ao roda-lo não corro risco de perder a configuração de algum programa? Ex: a configuração de um servidor de email postfix. obrigado, Abra sua conta no Yahoo! Mail, o único sem limite de espaço para armazenamento! http://br.mail.yahoo.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
instalar atráves do fonte
Boa tarde! Tenho uma dúvida antiga que sempre acabei nunca perguntando...no instalar um programa através do fonte (make) preciso ter os fontes do kernel? Ou somente as dependências daquele programa que estou compilando? Desde já agradeço. Max _ Confira vídeos com notícias do NY Times, gols direto do Lance, videocassetadas e muito mais no MSN Video! http://video.msn.com/?mkt=pt-br
Re: Ferramenta de becape fácil para desktop
2008/1/3, Zandre Bran [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Jan 2, 2008 10:13 PM, Elias Diniz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Olá, Conhecem algum software simples e intuitivo para becape em desktop ?? Algo que um usuário leigo consiga usar :-) Depende para qual midia irá este backup. Eu uso o grsync que copio tudo para um pen para backups corriqueiros. Valeu... Abçs, Zandre. O becape seria para outro hd. Vou dar uma olhada no grsync. Valeu!
Re: Busca no MySQL
Em Qui, 2008-01-03 às 13:44 -0200, Ayesha escreveu: Olá Pessoal, Alguém sabe me dizer se nas buscas feitas através de um site fazem destinção de acentos? Ou seja, procurar por tarifação é o mesmo que procurar por tarifacao? A não ser que você faça algo de especial para que o sistema considere as duas coisas como iguais, elas serão consideradas como distintas. Assim como serão diferentes TaRiFaCaO e tarifacao. -- Goedson Teixeira Paixao http://mundolivre.wordpress.com/ Debian Project http://www.debian.org/ Jabber ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.jabber.org/ signature.asc Description: Esta é uma parte de mensagem assinada digitalmente
Re: instalar atráves do fonte
Max Dornelles escreveu: Boa tarde! Tenho uma dúvida antiga que sempre acabei nunca perguntando...no instalar um programa através do fonte (make) preciso ter os fontes do kernel? Ou somente as dependências daquele programa que estou compilando? Desde já agradeço. Max Olá, Somente as dependências, que são os programas necessários para compilação (gcc e companhia), as bibliotecas (.so [dinâmica] ou .a [estática]) e os cabeçalhos das bibliotecas (.h para C, por exemplo). Nunca é preciso ter os fontes de um outro programa para compilar um. O fonte do kernel é apenas necessário para incluir módulos ou atualizações no kernel em execução e carregar este novo numa próxima inicialização. Assim como ocorre com qualquer outro pacote/produto/programa. Até mesmo para compilar módulos para o kernel não é preciso ter o fonte, apenas os cabeçalho (que geralmente não está instalado num sistema de uso comum) e as bibliotecas do kernel, que já estão instaladas visto que o kernel precisa delas para rodar. -- Atenciosamente, Junior Polegato Um peregrino de problemas; Um pergaminho de soluções! Página Profissional: http://www.juniorpolegato.com.br -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: instalar atráves do fonte
Em Qui, 2008-01-03 às 20:39 +0300, Max Dornelles escreveu: Boa tarde! Tenho uma dúvida antiga que sempre acabei nunca perguntando...no instalar um programa através do fonte (make) preciso ter os fontes do kernel? Ou somente as dependências daquele programa que estou compilando? Desde já agradeço. Max __ Notícias direto do New York Times, gols do Lance, videocassetadas e muitos outros vídeos no MSN Videos! Confira já! Olá. Isso vai depender do que você for instalar. Se for compilar algum módulo ou driver com certeza vai precisar. Abraço. Fabiano. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
EDUx.pt (www.eduxpt.org) - Votação e disc ussão importante sobre Sistema Operativo.
http://www.escolaslivres.org/forum/index.php?topic=36.0 registe-se no forum e faça a vossa votação imparcial...discuta o assunto para que nada falhe na decisão final. Cumprimentos Rui Manuel Martins - [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bloqueio Skype
Caro Murilo, Veja http://l7-filter.sourceforge.net/HOWTO-kernel para mais informações sobre como implementar Layer 7 usando iptables no Linux okay? Abraços, Brivaldo Jr (condector) Em 02/01/08, Murilo Lima - Suporte Multicomp [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: Ola Pessoal alguem poderia me ajudar a bloquear o Skype, ouvi dizer que podemos bloquear com o Layer 7 alguém pode me dar um toque se tem como. -- Obrigado Murilo Lima Suporte Multicomp LPIC Nível I LPI000100944 -- -- AlgTEC (www.algtec.com.br) -- .''`. Debian GNU/Linux : :' : Free Operating System `. `' http://debian.org/ `- DEBIAN-MS
OFF-Topic - Treinamento em Debian e PostgreeSql
Olá Pessoal, Desculpem usar este espaço, mas a coisa ta feia. Preciso de um treinamento para 2 pessoas em ADM de Debian e de ADM de PostgreeSQL. Estou no MT e preciso com relativa urgência deste treinamento. Grato, fico no aguardo. Luciano -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: Busca no MySQL
Olá Rafael, Valew pela resposta :) Existe algum meio ou função que possa reverter isso? Sei que no SQL dá pra fazer! Thursday, January 3, 2008, 4:51:59 PM, you wrote: Sim, mySQL é sensivel a acentos, ele vai diferenciar acentos Em 03/01/08,Ayesha[EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: Olá Pessoal, Alguém sabe me dizer se nas buscas feitas através de um site fazem destinção de acentos? Ou seja, procurar por "tarifação" é o mesmo que procurar por "tarifacao"? Agradeço a atenção dos experts em MySQL :) -- Best regards, Ayesha mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Best regards, Ayesha mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[4]: Busca no MySQL
Olá Goedson, Caramba ... então deve ter algo muito errado com minha implementação, pois qdo faço uma query com locação por exemplo, me retorna um monte de dados, mas se faço como locacao não vem nenhum :( Por isso eu estava procurando alguma info sobre isso. Agora as coisas se danaram , rsrsrs Alguma idéia do porque disso? Valew Goedson :D Ayesha Thursday, January 3, 2008, 4:55:18 PM, you wrote: Em Qui, 2008-01-03 às 16:10 -0200, Ayesha escreveu: Olá Goedson, Obrigado por responder-me Existe algo que faça com que o sistema considere caracteres diferentes como iguais? Assim, TariFação igual a tarifação? Acabo de descobrir que, ao contrario do que eu pensava, por padrão o MySQL é case insensitive. Ou seja, por padrão ele vai considerar TariFação igual a tarifação. Veja [1] para saber como fazer ele considerar como diferentes. Provavelmente deve ter também um COLLATE que faça ele considerar letras com acento e sem acento como iguais. [1] http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/case-sensitivity.html -- Best regards, Ayeshamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
duvida no cups
estou tentaondo imprimir usando o cups 1.3.4 no debian lenny sendo que a impresssora esta em uma maquina winxp logada como administrador e com a senha em branco. entao o caminho para indicar a impressora no cups é assim? smb://Administrador:@ip/HPOfficeImpr o estranho é que a impressora começa a funcionar, faz alguns barulhos... mas nao imprime.. o log da impressora ta assim D [03/Jan/2008:18:49:40 -0200] cupsdReadClient: 8 GET /images/bottom-right.gif HTTP/1.1 D [03/Jan/2008:18:49:40 -0200] cupsdAuthorize: No authentication data provided. D [03/Jan/2008:18:49:40 -0200] cupsdSendError: 8 code=304 (Not Modified) D [03/Jan/2008:18:50:16 -0200] cupsdReadClient: 9 GET /admin/log/error_log HTTP/1.1 D [03/Jan/2008:18:50:16 -0200] cupsdAuthorize: No authentication data provided. no compartilhamento da impressora ja disponibilizei o convidado pra ter acesso de impressao.. -- linux user nº 432194 Eu sou livre e você?
Re: OFF-Topic - Treinamento em Debian e PostgreeSql
http://www.linuxbrasil.org.br/cursos.php 2008/1/3, Luciano Trescastro [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Olá Pessoal, Desculpem usar este espaço, mas a coisa ta feia. Preciso de um treinamento para 2 pessoas em ADM de Debian e de ADM de PostgreeSQL. Estou no MT e preciso com relativa urgência deste treinamento. Grato, fico no aguardo. Luciano -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- linux user nº 432194 Eu sou livre e você?
Iceweasel e autenticação no ISA com NTLM em dominio win2k3
Gente, Não estou conseguind autenticar o meu Iceweasel com o ticket kerberos da minha máquina. Para todos os outros serviçoes (nautilus,smbclient) ele funciona bem. Porem especificamente para o iceweasel ele nao funciona, acaba pedindo uma tela de autenticação que não devia aparecer. Testei com firefox no Ubuntu e funciona beleza. Ou seja não creio que existe erro na minha configuração... Alguém tem alguma luz ai ? Sds, --- Cesar Avalos. Jabber/XMPP/Gtalk: ↓ Avaløs·€esarØgmail·cøm In a World without Walls and Fences, who need Windows and Gates?
Re: apt-get
On Jan 3, 2008 2:43 PM, Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pessoal, boa tarde. Ôlas. Sou novo na distro debian. Como vcs são mais experientes queria uma orientação. devo sempre rodar o apt-get upgrade? Eu prefiro o aptitude, mas escrevi sobre o apt há algum tempo atrás quando estava iniciando no Debian GNU/Linux: http://zandrebran.sites.uol.com.br/pacotes_deb.htm Para saber mais Alex, você pode ver o guia de referência da Debian, muito bom por sinal: http://www.us.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ Tem mais em debian.org obrigado, Abçs, Zandre.
Acesso a rede atraves de um servidor VPN
Caros, Configurei um servidor de VPN ele esta funcionando sem problemas, instalei um cliente windows gerei as chaves o configurei, conecto no servidor sem problemas, pingo entre as pontas remotas sem problemas mas nao consigo acessar a rede interna, abaixo segue a topologia da rede: INTERNET --- FW SEREV_VPN O servidor encontra-se na mesma rede que o firewall (192.168.0.0), o tunel esta com a seguinte configuração matriz: 10.0.254.1 - filial: 10.0.254.2 A rota no servidor/cliente esta da seguinte forma: route add -net 10.0.254.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 gw $5 Alguem pode me ajudar, como faço para acessar a rede 192.168.0.0. O ip_forward esta ativado ele deveria estar fazendo o roteamento em teoria. Att. -- Leandro Moreira Linux Networks e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel.: + 55(32) 9197-7909 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apt-get
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03-01-2008 14:43, Alex wrote: Pessoal, boa tarde. Sou novo na distro debian. Como vcs são mais experientes queria uma orientação. devo sempre rodar o apt-get upgrade? A partir do Etch utilize o 'aptitude'. A partir do Lenny, ao invés de 'upgrade' utilize 'safe-upgrade'. Ao roda-lo não corro risco de perder a configuração de algum programa? Ex: a configuração de um servidor de email postfix. obrigado, Corre, sempre existem bugs, embora nestes últimos 4 anos eu não tenha visto isso acontecer na versão estável, já vi outras correções afetarem o funcionamento se alguns serviços. Abraço, - -- Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) Debian. Freedom to code. Code to freedom! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHfZAuCjAO0JDlykYRAlfyAKCfXlGQl8MKfscQX1GRV+wYdo0JwwCdGPzL gL3vCEiTfiRMOIFOhKh2beg= =yZV3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Busca no MySQL
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03-01-2008 17:05, Ayesha wrote: Olá Goedson, Caramba ... então deve ter algo muito errado com minha implementação, pois qdo faço uma query com locação por exemplo, me retorna um monte de dados, mas se faço como locacao não vem nenhum :( Duas coisas diferentes. Por padrão, o MySQL acha que TARIFAÇÃO = tarifação, mas ele acha que tarifacao != tarifação, o primeiro caso é sobre maiúsculas e minúsculas, o segundo sobre acentos. Por isso eu estava procurando alguma info sobre isso. Agora as coisas se danaram , rsrsrs Alguma idéia do porque disso? Desenho do funcionamento do banco. Você deveria ter uma função to_ascii() ou algo similar que permita converter os caracteres acentuados em ASCII puro (á - a) e com isso permitir a comparação ( to_ascii(locação) = locacao ). Abraço, - -- Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) Debian. Freedom to code. Code to freedom! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHfZENCjAO0JDlykYRAjyKAJ9kTe7sbHbLkG1aBTiI51uvRROknwCdHKge skcyOAMxNwIARmoeMmJ5mgU= =LfUg -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Servidor Debian: Servidor FTP - ProFTPD com suporte TLS/SSL
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03-01-2008 06:43, PinguimRibeiro wrote: Na configuração que utilizei, a segurança é fornecida pelo layer TLS/SSL, não propriamente pelo ProFTPD. Isso serve para autenticação de segurança e transporte de dados, mas não serve para evitar ataques the path injection por exemplo, ou seja, se quiser segurança, o ProFTPD não é a melhor alternativa (e isso há muitos anos). Basta olhar o histórico de falhas de segurança do ProFTPD e no vsftpd para ter uma idéia do que estou falando. Assim, é tão segura como qualquer outra configuração que utilize TLS/SSL como camada de transporte seguro: https, Imaps, etc. (Configurações utilizadas por milhões diariamente para ver o correio electrónico, apenas para dar um exemplo.) TLS/SSL são aplicações para transporte de dados e podem _ajudar_ na segurança, não adianta nada o canal ser seguro se a outra ponta é incompente para lidar com os dados e lidar com vetores de ataque, ainda mais quando lidando com sistemas de arquivos e caminhos relativos. No entanto, quando pretendo algo realmente seguro, utilizo SSH, com o que posso também transferir ficheiros. Excelente, o SSH (e sftp) são bons exemplos de ferramentas que além de utilizar criptografia no transporte de dados, são aplicações seguras. Abraço, - -- Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) Debian. Freedom to code. Code to freedom! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHfZIRCjAO0JDlykYRArStAJ41DIKLOeHPtkyktjkKjneWDodSWgCff/Y3 6NGNJ2Gd2tWLCJe6IDkDib8= =NBBX -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Busca no MySQL
Ola, A diferenciação ou não entre tarifação e tarifacao e feito pelo uso do collation. Que controla também a ordenação ou se vai ser case sensitive ou não. http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.1/en/charset-collation-effect.html -- Paulino Kenji Sato http://www.nobel.com.br
Re: su and administrator password fails in gnome
On 2008-01-03 05:07 +0100, Ron Johnson wrote: On my system, all the non-symlinks in /bin are 755 root:root. Then your system is rather unusual, to say the least. The following programs are 1755 on my system: /bin/su /bin/mount /bin/umount /bin/ping /bin/ping6 Not having /bin/su suid root is probably Rick's problem. Sven -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Any good todo manager?
You may get answers or better ones if you shared with us what good means to you: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html I use vim with todo.txt file for personal tasks, and enable folding for this file so I only see the top-level tasks by default. Request Tracker (RT) is what I use for public tasks, so my customers can see what I work on and get updates along the way. If you need something in between you may check out some of the stuff written in javascript like: http://stickwiki.sourceforge.net/ /Allan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: latest radeon driver and full screen video
Romain JACQUET a écrit : ... I have made some visuals to summarize the problem. 1. I display a video on the second screen. The video is 4:3 ratio (resolution 320x240). I see a correct display (see http://romainjacquet.free.fr/screenshot3.png) but all the screen is not used. I'm sorry the correct display is visible at http://romainjacquet.free.fr/screenshot1.png. 2. I make a right-click on gmplayer, I go on aspect ratio and I choose 16:9. 3. I see a incorrect display. The video is correctly stretched but it is not centered. (http://romainjacquet.free.fr/screenshot3.png). I strongly believe it is a mplayer bug... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
boot problems with the compiled kernel 2.6.23
hi all, I compiled the kernel 2.6.23 and did it in several ways but at each time end up in getting the following error at the boot time. Check root = bootarg cat /cmdline or missing module or devices; cat /proc/modules ls dev ALERT /dev/sda4 does not exist Dropping to shell BusyBox.. and then it drops to (initramfs) prompt. I checked the commands(cat /proc/cmdline) at that point which gives me /dev/sda4 response and my device map is also set to (hd0) /dev/sda4. Please help me in this to solve this.l The methods I followed were make O=/home/tharanga/kernels/2.6.23 menuconfig make O=... make O=.. modules_install install I also tried to do it in make O=/home/tharanga/kernels/2.6.23 menuconfig make O=... make O=.. modules make O=.. modules_install make install and then I use mkinitrd to genarate inird.img files which was did not give me any exceptions and then used update-initrams -c to do the same thing which was with out any exceptions. Then I did update-grub and when the booting falied with that I manually edited the mnu.list file which I double chekced and root = /dev/sda4 is correctly set. I am out of ideas now. can any body suggest me what should I do to for this. Thank you very much in advance and hope one of you guys will be assisting me in this. ~Tharanga Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
GNOME desktop internationalization?
Hello, for KDE there are tons of kde-i18n-xx language packages. Is there anything similar for the GNOME desktop? Or is it all built in and I just have to generate the appropriate locale... let's see... --D. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mutt and utf-8 (was: character encoding)
On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 13:50:59 +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: [...] I've found that if I generate an utf-8 locale it messes up the little arrows in mutt's index. Sometimes the locale settings do not get passed on to mutt correctly, depending on how mutt is started. I think the best test is to use ! to run locale from within mutt. Does that show all settings are correct? Also a lot of manpages don't show correctly. That could be a terminal or font problem (see below); sometimes, however, the manpages themselves are to blame. I have to set LC_CTYPE to a non utf-8 locale. But I wonder if it is also the choice of console font. Try these simple tests: echo -e \0303\0244 should give you an ä (lowercase a-umlaut) on a utf-8 terminal. If you see two characters instead it means that your terminal does not use utf-8. If you get one placeholder symbol, e.g. an empty square or a question mark, then your font does not provide the a-umlaut character. The a-umlaut is not a particularly fancy character, so you should also try this: echo -e \0342\0224\0224\0342\0224\0200\0076 should give you └─ (mutt's arrow showing a reply in a thread). -- Regards,| http://users.icfo.es/Florian.Kulzer Florian |
Re: Any good todo manager?
On 1/3/08, Allan Wind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You may get answers or better ones if you shared with us what good means to you: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html I use vim with todo.txt file for personal tasks, and enable folding for this file so I only see the top-level tasks by default. An excellent extension for vim is vimoutliner (packaged in vim-vimoutliner). It adds quite a bit over a simple text file with folding, without getting in your way. That's my tuppence anyway ;) /M
Re: Waiting for root file system problem
--- Daniel Burrows [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jan 02, 2008 at 10:24:07AM -0800, Andrew Sackville-West [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: On Wed, Jan 02, 2008 at 06:24:07AM -0500, dave N wrote: If you wait long enough (at least 30 seconds, maybe a couple minutes, I can't remember) you should get dropped to a busybox shell. Then look at /scripts/local-top and see what it's trying to run there. That may provide a clue. You can also pass break at the kernel command line. See initramfs-tools(8) for more boot options, including places you can break the init script. Daniel Well finally got in, followed somewhat what the other user did who had a similar problem and the messages on this thread. I've also found that the drive assignment varies depending on the boot device in my BIOS. If CDROM is 1st boot device and Hard drive is second: - my root partition, etc is on /dev/sda If Hard drive is 1st boot device and CDROM is second - my root partition, etc is on /dev/sdc ODD!! Setting labels in fstab caused many fsck errors and other problems, going back to device assignments everything worked fine. It seems that the partition devices and labels showed up differently with the older knoppix DVD I'm using and what is showing up with the Debian install. I'll need to verify this get an updated live DVD. Question: In the menu.lst grub file, how would I use the label assignment in the line: kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.18-5-686 root=/dev/sdc2 ro Thanks to everyone for the help. Dave -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Configuring laptop interfaces The Debian Way?
I'm trying to set up a laptop with both wired and wireless interfaces. Apart from difficulties in getting the wireless to work I'm a bit surprised by the way even the wired setup works. If I boot up the laptop when the wired ethernet is disconnected it spends quite a long time looking for a DHCP server! Surely this can't be correct behaviour? I'd expect default bootup behaviour to be IF wired ethernet link == up THENtry DHCP ELSEtry wireless ... Am I missing something? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
AC3D and libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3
This is slightly OT as it's about setting up AC3D .. but the error I'm getting is a library error Error-start ac3d: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory Error-end ..despite the fact that I've installed the 'libstdc++' pack using synaptic. Anyone got any suggestions as to why this should be... (probably something obvious... but not to me I'm afraid) Ian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mouse keyboard probs under X [WAS: usb mouse problems: etch/gnome/metacity]
On Wed, 2008-01-02 at 21:36 -0600, Adam Porter wrote: cs wrote: actually after using KDE for an hour today, the keyboard froze too... playing with the control centre somehow reset it such that keyboard started accepting USB input again it seems (under Gnome) openning many more application windows (that have not been previously openned?) somehow resets it so keyboard started accepting input again any ideas??! or ways to narrow this down? grep through your /var/logs for USB-related messages. Maybe something is going on. I have a PS/2 keyboard but my USB mouse is fine. Once in a while my USB hard disk will bork itself and, because of LVM, I'll have to reboot to fix it. Sometimes my SanDisk USB memory card reader will mess up too. I often wonder if it's something to do with the USB controllers on my motherboard (which is pretty old). I'd already checked and there was nothing USB related in syslog, Xorg.*.log etc. However, commenting out this line in xorg.conf: Option Protocol ImPS/2 seems to have helped (so far!) If that doesn't turn anything up, I'd suggest trying a different USB keyboard, and a PS/2 one if possible. If that doesn't help, I'd suggest seeing a psychiatrist; perhaps your original theory of your slowly going mad is correct. ;) ;) I'll post an update to the list once I'm sure the above line makes a diff or not Michael -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Configuring laptop interfaces The Debian Way?
On 1/3/08, John Stumbles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to set up a laptop with both wired and wireless interfaces. Apart from difficulties in getting the wireless to work I'm a bit surprised by the way even the wired setup works. If I boot up the laptop when the wired ethernet is disconnected it spends quite a long time looking for a DHCP server! Surely this can't be correct behaviour? Set both your interfaces to 'auto' and install network-manager. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mouse keyboard probs under X [WAS: usb mouse problems: etch/gnome/metacity]
On Thu, 2008-01-03 at 12:41 +, michael wrote: On Wed, 2008-01-02 at 21:36 -0600, Adam Porter wrote: cs wrote: actually after using KDE for an hour today, the keyboard froze too... playing with the control centre somehow reset it such that keyboard started accepting USB input again it seems (under Gnome) openning many more application windows (that have not been previously openned?) somehow resets it so keyboard started accepting input again any ideas??! or ways to narrow this down? grep through your /var/logs for USB-related messages. Maybe something is going on. I have a PS/2 keyboard but my USB mouse is fine. Once in a while my USB hard disk will bork itself and, because of LVM, I'll have to reboot to fix it. Sometimes my SanDisk USB memory card reader will mess up too. I often wonder if it's something to do with the USB controllers on my motherboard (which is pretty old). I'd already checked and there was nothing USB related in syslog, Xorg.*.log etc. However, commenting out this line in xorg.conf: Option Protocol ImPS/2 seems to have helped (so far!) If that doesn't turn anything up, I'd suggest trying a different USB keyboard, and a PS/2 one if possible. If that doesn't help, I'd suggest seeing a psychiatrist; perhaps your original theory of your slowly going mad is correct. ;) ;) I'll post an update to the list once I'm sure the above line makes a diff or not Okay, I spoke too soon :( The mouse just ''froze'' on me again (as in I could move it but clicking did nothing) - had to ALT-TAB (to 'nothing' then again to get current apps)... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Moving from WEP to WPA
Hi I have a relatively old (P3) Compaq Evo N600C laptop which I picked up from somewhere, in which I have installed a circa-2002 PCMCIA Buffalo 802.11a/b wireless LAN card which uses the orinoco driver in the kernel. I know that this combination of kernel, machine and laptop work since it's been working since I first started using the laptop several months ago, while my wireless LAN was configured to use WEP. However, I recently replaced my wireless router with a newer one which does 802.11g as well as a/b and supports WPA as well as WEP. I made the necessary additions to my /etc/network/interfaces file on both my laptops. My Toshiba laptop made the switch from WEP to WPA with the absolute minimum of fuss. My Compaq did not. Thinking that maybe I'd screwed up the setup somehow (I previously upgraded the Compaq to testing, then changed my mind and went back to etch -- result: a mess) I have just COMPLETELY WIPED AND RE-INSTALLED ETCH from the current dvd .iso images on debian.org. I have, as a result, a completely clean, unsullied installation. I chose to leave the network unconfigured at install time after discovering that the installation process doesn't support WPA, and instead configured it manually after install. I have wpasupplicant installed. But when I try to bring up the wireless network interface, I get this: START OF GENERATED OUTPUT kayo:~# ifup eth1 ioctl[SIOCSIWAUTH]: Operation not supported WEXT auth param 7 value 0x1 - ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Operation not supported ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODE]: Invalid argument ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Operation not supported ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODE]: Invalid argument ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Operation not supported ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODE]: Invalid argument ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Operation not supported ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODE]: Invalid argument ioctl[SIOCSIWAUTH]: Operation not supported WEXT auth param 4 value 0x0 - ioctl[SIOCSIWAUTH]: Operation not supported WEXT auth param 5 value 0x1 - Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Client V3.0.4 Copyright 2004-2006 Internet Systems Consortium. All rights reserved. For info, please visit http://www.isc.org/sw/dhcp/ Listening on LPF/eth1/00:02:2d:4f:8a:1e Sending on LPF/eth1/00:02:2d:4f:8a:1e Sending on Socket/fallback DHCPDISCOVER on eth1 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 7 DHCPDISCOVER on eth1 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 16 DHCPDISCOVER on eth1 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 15 DHCPDISCOVER on eth1 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 9 DHCPDISCOVER on eth1 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 14 No DHCPOFFERS received. No working leases in persistent database - sleeping. kayo:~# END OF GENERATED OUTPUT Now my interfaces file looks like this: auto lo iface lo inet loopback iface eth1 inet dhcp wpa-ssid My SSID wpa-psk My PSK, a 13-character alphanumeric code wpa-group CCMP,AES wpa-pairwise CCMP,AES auto eth1 This is the same on both laptops (except on the Toshiba, it's eth2 as eth0 is a wired Ethernet on both machines and on the Toshiba eth1 is a ethernet over IEEE1394 which I don't use). I've checked that the SSID and the PSK are correct. I don't get any of those Operation Not Supported or Invalid Argument messages on my Toshiba, which is also running etch and is running the same kernel (stock debian 2.6.18-5 i386 kernel) as the Compaq laptop. Clearly, however, something is different -- anyone able to help me figure out what? Thanks Mark -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Errors from repositories
http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-9944.html http://wiki.debian.org/SecureApt I get this error quite a lot with http://cs.wisc.edu. Waiting, or doing apt-get update several times seems to straighten it out. I also, out of habit only use the mirrors on the official debian download list. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote; Get:1 http://buckhill stable Release.gpg [378B] Ign http://buckhill testing Release.gpg Michael -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mutt and utf-8 (was: character encoding)
On Thu, 03 Jan 2008 12:20:10 +0100, Florian Kulzer wrote: On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 13:50:59 +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: [...] I've found that if I generate an utf-8 locale it messes up the little arrows in mutt's index. Sometimes the locale settings do not get passed on to mutt correctly, depending on how mutt is started. I think the best test is to use ! to run locale from within mutt. Does that show all settings are correct? You can also add set charset=utf8 to ~/.muttrc to force utf8 encoding, though you may also need a utf8 xterm/console font. -- Stephen Patterson :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] :: http://patter.mine.nu/ GPG: B416F0DE :: Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Don't be silly, Minnie. Who'd be walking round these cliffs with a gas oven? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Galeon R.I.P?
--- Hal Vaughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 02 January 2008, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: ... I can control my system, I can't control my clients' computers, so I want a minimum of possible errors on their computers. I would not want to make it easy for someone to grab my code and compete. Maybe later, but I'm still within a year of finishing all the development work. I can understand. And, as I said, I am not attempting to discuss your particular usage. Just the idea of open vs. closed source in general and the economic arguments in favor of clsoed source. And frankly, I'm not sure where I stand in a situation like yours. Likely in a similar position. I've considered this situation many times over. All the tools I use are open source. I avoid closed source programs whenever possible and have been quite keen to build my business on a grounds that I consider ethical and moral. My first post on this thread was in response to someone making what I consider a quite foolish statement that, essentially, closed source software was unethical. I know some people respect (such as RMS) say that, but I also think it's a statement that's more easily made by people who get nice tidy paychecks and aren't the ones who have to figure out how to do the marketing. fair enough, kinda hard to separate the ideal from the practical when you have to make a living at it If I write a program, a story, a song, a script, or anything else, or if I create a song or movie or any other IP work, I made it. Just as if I put the effort into making a chair or a car or anything else. It's up to me to decide what I do with it and how I'll find a way to get rewarded for my work. If I want to sell it as closed source software, I have every right to do it. If someone doesn't like it, then they don't have to buy it or deal with it. On the flip side, I do contribute to FOSS projects and hope, when this work is done, that any programming I do later will all be FOSS, but for now, I have the task of earning a living to deal with as well. It would level the playing field if everyone were on the same field. They're not. true. I think eventually we'll see more open source than closed source, but over the past 25 years or so, it seems the innovations have been made in closed source, then emulated in open source. There are advantages to different business models. i agree with both sides of the equasion here but, personally find that any reason to open source seems to make sense for the business as well. examples being in the updating and maintanece of systems, the fact that the company was going to pay for software either way, so why not develop it in a model that allows them to have it modified to meet their needs even if the origional programer is no longer with the company. further, the open source model seems to be of benefit in areas where sensitive data is concerned (anyone can write an encription program, but if it is available in an open source setting, like debugging it benefits from more eyes to see problems) like always just my 0.02 jwlockhart Registered Linux User #458799 Registered Kubuntu User #19678 this user is penguin powered Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Workaround for bug 44477: xserver-xorg: Xorg crashes with nvidia proprietary driver (during allocation)
Hi, In trying to solve my mouse foibles (previous post) I upgraded xserver-xorg-core on my Sid box. That upgrades xorg to 7.3. Starting X with the proprietary Nvidia driver 9631 one runs into bug 44477. The answer that was given to that bug (don't use that driver) gets tiresome: I don't use 9631 because I like to, but because I have to, and we can go OT on that: nv does not compare to nvidia in most situations but the simplest. For those getting the message: (EE) NVIDIA(0): = WARNING WARNING WARNING WARNING = (EE) NVIDIA(0): This server has a video driver ABI version of 2.0 but this (EE) NVIDIA(0): driver is designed to work with versions before 2.0. (EE) NVIDIA(0): Please check http://www.nvidia.com/ for driver updates or (EE) NVIDIA(0): downgrade to an X server with a supported driver ABI. (EE) NVIDIA(0): === a reported workaround is starting X with the option -ignoreABI. I'll report back if that is true. Hugo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Wodim Woes
Thomas H. George wrote: wodim --scanbus finds a cdrw device at 0,0,0 but wodim -v dev=0,0,0 data.iso goes crazy and says it is trying to access /dev/hda and then /dev/hdb My system is lenny with a linux-image-2.6.22-3-686 kernel. What is wrong and how can I fix it. Tom George I think you can directly pass the device name to wodim, like: wodim dev=/dev/cdrom [other opts] Works for me. -- Raj Kiran Grandhi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Wodim Woes
On Wed, Jan 02, 2008 at 09:24:43PM -0600, Adam Porter wrote: Thomas H. George wrote: wodim --scanbus finds a cdrw device at 0,0,0 but wodim -v dev=0,0,0 data.iso goes crazy and says it is trying to access /dev/hda and then /dev/hdb My system is lenny with a linux-image-2.6.22-3-686 kernel. What is wrong and how can I fix it. I don't know, but it might help for you to provide the actual console commands and output. Also, describe your system's hardware, and see if it works in other Linux distros or other OS'es. Those are the actual console commands given above. I have found that wodim --devices finds the two ide drives, a cdrom drive and a cdrw drive, but I normally burned cd's with a sony usb cdrw drive. After last night's adventures the usb drive appears to be dead. wodim --scanbus found it at 0,0,0 but as stated above went crazy trying to write to it. I then made the mistake of telling wodim to write to /dev/sg0, the location reported when the usb drive was connected. wodim tried and failed. After this the usb device is no longer recognized when it is connected. My fault. I'll miss the usb drive as it was an external drive I could move to another system. If wodim can work with an external usb drive I will replace it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: upgrading in sid
On 1/2/08, Daniel Burrows [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You didn't say what libraries they are or what packages they come from (use dpkg -S to find the latter out). But on my system the only 64-bit dpkg -S /lib64 returns libc6-amd64 for all the libraries in /lib64. So I ended up removing that package. I have no idea how the package got installed on my system. So that frees up about 9.7 megs of disk space :). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Custom Debian CD - Problem with APT-CDROM and GPGV
Hi, I'm trying to generate a custom install CD based on Etch. I've set up a local repository with reprepro, and I've installed and adapted simple-cdd to my needs. Everything was working just fine until I decided to include signatures (Release.gpg files). Now here's the problem. When installing my custom distro with my custom CD, base-installer throws the following error: [...] Copying package lists...gpgv: not a detached signature E: Sub-process gpgv returned an error code (2) W: Signature verification failed for /cdrom/dists/etch/Release.gpg [...] Of course, I've included my own keyring (/usr/share/keyrings/debian-archive-keyring.gpg and/etc/apt/trusted.gpg). When checking manually with gpgv (chroot /target gpgv /cdrom/dists/etch/Release.gpg), I noticed gpgv created /.gnupg/ and was looking for trustedkeys.gpg under that directory. So I forced the install process to copy my keyring to that location. Now, the manual signature check with gpgv is OK, but apt-cdrom still fails to verify the signature. Whatever the options I use (APT::Get::AllowUnauthenticated...) the problem remains. Now to my questions: - Why does apt-cdrom fail if gpgv succeeds when launched manually??? - Why does the install process complete when the Release.gpg file is not even present on the CD??? Thanks... _ Ne gardez plus qu'une seule adresse mail ! Copiez vos mails vers Yahoo! Mail http://mail.yahoo.fr
Re: Wodim Woes - Correction
On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 08:47:56AM -0500, Thomas H. George wrote: On Wed, Jan 02, 2008 at 09:24:43PM -0600, Adam Porter wrote: Thomas H. George wrote: wodim --scanbus finds a cdrw device at 0,0,0 but wodim -v dev=0,0,0 data.iso goes crazy and says it is trying to access /dev/hda and then /dev/hdb My system is lenny with a linux-image-2.6.22-3-686 kernel. What is wrong and how can I fix it. I don't know, but it might help for you to provide the actual console commands and output. Also, describe your system's hardware, and see if it works in other Linux distros or other OS'es. Those are the actual console commands given above. I have found that wodim --devices finds the two ide drives, a cdrom drive and a cdrw drive, but I normally burned cd's with a sony usb cdrw drive. After last night's adventures the usb drive appears to be dead. wodim --scanbus found it at 0,0,0 but as stated above went crazy trying to write to it. I then made the mistake of telling wodim to write to /dev/sg0, the location reported when the usb drive was connected. wodim tried and failed. After this the usb device is no longer recognized when it is connected. My fault. I'll miss the usb drive as it was an external drive I could move to another system. If wodim can work with an external usb drive I will replace it. Correction: I rebooted and the usb cdrw drive is alive and well. wodim --scanbus still reports it as device 0,0,0 but wodim --devices finds it as dev='/dev/scd0' and the command wodim -v dev='dev/scd0' data.iso works perfectly. Maybe everybody else knew to use the output of wodim --devices rather than wodim --scanbus but old habits die hard. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 3rd SATA scrambles drive order? Begin: Waiting for root file system . . . . . .
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jonathan Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a computer with an Intel mainboard (Ill look up the exact model later if it matters) running Etch. / is an 80G SATA on SATA1. /data is a 500G SATA drive on SATA2. I've never had any trouble with the system. I ran out of space on /data so I've installed a 3rd drive, 750G. I've only got 2 SATA ports left, 3 and 4. If I plug the new drive into either one, the machine boots, the bios recognizes the new drive just fine, the boot info shows sdc, but after all the drive and ethernet detection, I get the following message: Begin: Waiting for root file system . . .. . . (I'll note here that as soon as I unplug the SATA cable from the new drive and reboot everything works again, so the original two drives file systems are still just fine.) After some delay (two minutes?) I get this: Done. Check root= bootarg cat /proc/cmdline or missing modules, devices: cat /proc/modules ls /dev ALERT! /dev/sda2 does not exist. Dropping to a shell! Then I get a busybox/initramfs shell. ls /dev/sd* only shows: sda sdb sdb1 sdb2 sdc sdc1 From that I guessed that the boot order hand changed (obviously sdb now has the swap and root partitions, and c had the 1 data partition, and a is the blank new drive. So I rebooted and edited the GRUB commandline to make root=sdb2 and sure enough it works. Now, I guess I /can/ use this setup, and just modify /etc/fstab so that the thing will boot and mount properly on it's own, but I'd rather do something to it so that it doesn't get so confused about the order of the drives. The new drive should be sdc, and the old drives should be sda, and sdb, like they already were. Is there something I can do about this? To make the new drive be sdc, I mean? Thanks, JW Count yourself lucky. I have a system where the sata controllers come up in random order. sda is sometimes moved to sde. You can only use LABEL= for ext2/ext3 filesystems. Not for swap. So when my controllers get switched The system wont boot, drops to ramfs. Is there no way to control the order that the sata controllers get mapped ? Stuart -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
PAM failure?
Hello, When looking at /var/log/auth.log PAM seems to be logging a large amount. For example, every 30 minutes cron runs a script as root. It appears to me that each time the script is run, PAM adds 4 entries to auth.log, recording a the session open and close along with 2 other failures. Here's a snip from auth.log: Jan 3 13:30:01 hostname CRON[31753]: (pam_unix) session opened for user root by (uid=0) Jan 3 13:30:01 hostname pam_limits[31753]: setrlimit limit #11 to soft=-1, hard=-1 failed: Operation not permitted; uid=0 euid=0 Jan 3 13:30:01 hostname pam_limits[31753]: setrlimit limit #12 to soft=-1, hard=-1 failed: Operation not permitted; uid=0 euid=0 Jan 3 13:30:01 hostname CRON[31753]: (pam_unix) session closed for user root Does anyone know why PAM fails twice every time a script is run from cron? I'm running Debian 4.0. Many thanks, Craig. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Custom Debian CD - Problem with APT-CDROM and GPGV
Hi, I'm trying to generate a custom install CD based on Etch. I've set up a local repository with reprepro, and I've installed and adapted simple-cdd to my needs. Everything was working just fine until I decided to include signatures (Release.gpg files). Now here's the problem. When installing my custom distro with my custom CD, base-installer throws the following error: [...] Copying package lists...gpgv: not a detached signature E: Sub-process gpgv returned an error code (2) W: Signature verification failed for /cdrom/dists/etch/Release.gpg [...] Of course, I've included my own keyring (/usr/share/keyrings/debian-archive-keyring.gpg and/etc/apt/trusted.gpg). When checking manually with gpgv (chroot /target gpgv /cdrom/dists/etch/Release.gpg), I noticed gpgv created /.gnupg/ and was looking for trustedkeys.gpg under that directory. So I forced the install process to copy my keyring to that location. Now, the manual signature check with gpgv is OK, but apt-cdrom still fails to verify the signature. Whatever the options I use (APT::Get::AllowUnauthenticated...) the problem remains. Now to my questions: - Why does apt-cdrom fail if gpgv succeeds when launched manually??? - Why does the install process complete when the Release.gpg file is not even present on the CD??? Thanks... _ Ne gardez plus qu'une seule adresse mail ! Copiez vos mails vers Yahoo! Mail http://mail.yahoo.fr
Re: GNOME desktop internationalization?
2008/1/3, Dan H [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello, for KDE there are tons of kde-i18n-xx language packages. Is there anything similar for the GNOME desktop? Or is it all built in and I just have to generate the appropriate locale... let's see... Hi, look, http://www.gnome.org/i18n/ were you able to generate the locale ? Regards, Sergio Cuellar -- Meine Hoffnung soll mich leiten Durch die Tage ohne Dich Und die Liebe soll mich tragen Wenn der Schmerz die Hoffnung bricht -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PREEMPT kernel with nvidia
On Wednesday 02 January 2008 02:44, Florian Kulzer wrote: On Tue, Jan 01, 2008 at 23:25:47 +1000, Paul Andreassen wrote: Is it possible to have a PREEMPT kernel while using the closed source nVidia driver? I've compiled the stable kernel 2.6.18 and the backported kernel 2.6.22, and both kill random programs. Its strange because it some times kills the game I'm running, sometime faults on boot up and once gcc actually died. Such sporadic problems can be caused by faulty hardware. (bad RAM, power supply instability, insufficient cooling, ...) GCC for example can sometimes function as a sort of CPU-and-memory-stress-tester. Can you run your system (same load) on the nv driver without problems? Did you test this for a sufficiently long time so that you can be sure that the crashes only happen with the nvidia driver? Hi Florian, That's what I can't understand. The default Debian kernel 2.6.18 without PREEMPT works fine. Is it possible the PREEMPT option would bring to the surface faulty hardware that non PREEMPT could handle? On Wednesday 02 January 2008 01:40, David Baron wrote: Running it right now with 2.63.1-rt1, I believe which is real-time preempt. Using the older driver for mx400 cards. I believe you mean 2.6.23-1-rt1. Good to know it does work. On Wednesday 02 January 2008 00:50, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/sdb1$ uname -a Linux debian 2.6.23-1-686 #1 SMP PREEMPT Sun Dec 9 10:02:52 CST 2007 i686 GNU/Linux So I can conclude it is most likely a hardware problem on my end. Thanks, Paul -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: su and administrator password fails in gnome
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/03/08 02:07, Sven Joachim wrote: On 2008-01-03 05:07 +0100, Ron Johnson wrote: On my system, all the non-symlinks in /bin are 755 root:root. Then your system is rather unusual, to say the least. The following programs are 1755 on my system: No, just not noticing rws amongst all the rwx's. /bin/su /bin/mount /bin/umount /bin/ping /bin/ping6 Not having /bin/su suid root is probably Rick's problem. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA I'm not a vegetarian because I love animals, I'm a vegetarian because I hate vegetables! unknown -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHfQCRS9HxQb37XmcRAibnAKDpoa/c2PwQqbHiOHN6GtGIzwLFjgCgm0S5 scEypNuDKFOay0QufOtm8Ls= =ZjZG -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
