Carte SD défectueuse

2008-01-26 Thread Zelos

Bonjour à tous,

J'ai fait l'acquisition d'une carte SD pour mes vacances et elle est 
pleine de photos et vidéos maintenant (1Go).
Mon portable (Fujitsu/Siemens : Amilo M7405, en dual boot XP/Debian) 
possède un lecteur de cartes SD. J'ai donc lu la carte (avec la 
protection en écriture activée) par l'intermédiaire de XP car le lecteur 
de la carte SD n'est pas actif sous Linux. Malheureusement, la carte est 
devenue illisible et je n'ai récupéré qu'une partie des photos...


1) Quelqu'un peut-il m'indiquer comment configurer ma Debian afin de 
pouvoir utiliser ce lecteur de cartes ?

(en fin de mail, le résultat d'un lspci -v)

2) Quelles solutions envisagez-vous pour récupérer ces photos ? J'ai 
pensé à un cat /dev/macartesd  tmp puis récupérer les images et vidéos 
dans ce fichier. Qu'en pensez-vous ?


Merci d'avance,
Zelos






neptune:/home/jp# lspci -v
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82852/82855 GM/GME/PM/GMV 
Processor to I/O Controller (rev 02)

   Subsystem: Fujitsu Siemens Computer GmbH Unknown device 106a
   Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0
   Memory at unassigned (32-bit, prefetchable)
   Capabilities: [40] Vendor Specific Information

00:00.1 System peripheral: Intel Corporation 82852/82855 GM/GME/PM/GMV 
Processor to I/O Controller (rev 02)

   Subsystem: Fujitsu Siemens Computer GmbH Unknown device 106a
   Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0

00:00.3 System peripheral: Intel Corporation 82852/82855 GM/GME/PM/GMV 
Processor to I/O Controller (rev 02)

   Subsystem: Fujitsu Siemens Computer GmbH Unknown device 106a
   Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0

00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM 
Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [VGA])

   Subsystem: Fujitsu Siemens Computer GmbH Unknown device 106a
   Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 17
   Memory at d800 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M]
   Memory at e038 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=512K]
   I/O ports at ec00 [size=8]
   Capabilities: [d0] Power Management version 1

00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated 
Graphics Device (rev 02)

   Subsystem: Fujitsu Siemens Computer GmbH Unknown device 106a
   Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0
   Memory at d000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [disabled] [size=128M]
   Memory at e030 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled] [size=512K]
   Capabilities: [d0] Power Management version 1

00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM 
(ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller #1 (rev 03) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])

   Subsystem: Fujitsu Siemens Computer GmbH Unknown device 106a
   Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 17
   I/O ports at e480 [size=32]

00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM 
(ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller #2 (rev 03) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])

   Subsystem: Fujitsu Siemens Computer GmbH Unknown device 106a
   Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 18
   I/O ports at e800 [size=32]

00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM 
(ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller #3 (rev 03) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])

   Subsystem: Fujitsu Siemens Computer GmbH Unknown device 106a
   Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 19
   I/O ports at e880 [size=32]

00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-M) USB2 
EHCI Controller (rev 03) (prog-if 20 [EHCI])

   Subsystem: Fujitsu Siemens Computer GmbH Unknown device 106a
   Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 20
   Memory at e02ffc00 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=1K]
   Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2
   Capabilities: [58] Debug port

00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev 83) 
(prog-if 00 [Normal decode])

   Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0
   Bus: primary=00, secondary=01, subordinate=09, sec-latency=64
   I/O behind bridge: c000-cfff
   Memory behind bridge: e000-e00f
   Prefetchable memory behind bridge: 2000-27ff

00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801DBM (ICH4-M) LPC Interface 
Bridge (rev 03)

   Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0

00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801DBM (ICH4-M) IDE 
Controller (rev 03) (prog-if 8a [Master SecP PriP])

   Subsystem: Fujitsu Siemens Computer GmbH Unknown device 106a
   Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 19
   I/O ports at 01f0 [size=8]
   I/O ports at 03f4 [size=1]
   I/O ports at 0170 [size=8]
   I/O ports at 0374 [size=1]
   I/O ports at ffa0 [size=16]
   Memory at 2800 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=1K]

00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) 
SMBus Controller (rev 03)

   Subsystem: Fujitsu Siemens Computer GmbH Unknown device 106a
   Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 16
   I/O ports at dc00 [size=32]

00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: 

Re: Carte SD défectueuse

2008-01-26 Thread Philippe
Le samedi 26 janvier 2008 à 10:14 +0100, Zelos a écrit :
avec mon packard bell easy note, sous etch, le lecteur de carte sd
intégré a été reconnu automatiquement dès l'installation (introduction
d'une carte sd ouvre automatiquement)
 Bonjour à tous,
 
 J'ai fait l'acquisition d'une carte SD pour mes vacances et elle est 
 pleine de photos et vidéos maintenant (1Go).
 Mon portable (Fujitsu/Siemens : Amilo M7405, en dual boot XP/Debian) 
 possède un lecteur de cartes SD. J'ai donc lu la carte (avec la 
 protection en écriture activée) par l'intermédiaire de XP car le lecteur 
 de la carte SD n'est pas actif sous Linux. Malheureusement, la carte est 
 devenue illisible et je n'ai récupéré qu'une partie des photos...
 
 1) Quelqu'un peut-il m'indiquer comment configurer ma Debian afin de 
 pouvoir utiliser ce lecteur de cartes ?
 (en fin de mail, le résultat d'un lspci -v)
 
 2) Quelles solutions envisagez-vous pour récupérer ces photos ? J'ai 
 pensé à un cat /dev/macartesd  tmp puis récupérer les images et vidéos 
 dans ce fichier. Qu'en pensez-vous ?
 
 Merci d'avance,
 Zelos
 
 
 
 
 
 
 neptune:/home/jp# lspci -v
 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82852/82855 GM/GME/PM/GMV 
 Processor to I/O Controller (rev 02)
 Subsystem: Fujitsu Siemens Computer GmbH Unknown device 106a
 Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0
 Memory at unassigned (32-bit, prefetchable)
 Capabilities: [40] Vendor Specific Information
 
 00:00.1 System peripheral: Intel Corporation 82852/82855 GM/GME/PM/GMV 
 Processor to I/O Controller (rev 02)
 Subsystem: Fujitsu Siemens Computer GmbH Unknown device 106a
 Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0
 
 00:00.3 System peripheral: Intel Corporation 82852/82855 GM/GME/PM/GMV 
 Processor to I/O Controller (rev 02)
 Subsystem: Fujitsu Siemens Computer GmbH Unknown device 106a
 Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0
 
 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM 
 Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [VGA])
 Subsystem: Fujitsu Siemens Computer GmbH Unknown device 106a
 Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 17
 Memory at d800 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M]
 Memory at e038 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=512K]
 I/O ports at ec00 [size=8]
 Capabilities: [d0] Power Management version 1
 
 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated 
 Graphics Device (rev 02)
 Subsystem: Fujitsu Siemens Computer GmbH Unknown device 106a
 Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0
 Memory at d000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [disabled] [size=128M]
 Memory at e030 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled] [size=512K]
 Capabilities: [d0] Power Management version 1
 
 00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM 
 (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller #1 (rev 03) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])
 Subsystem: Fujitsu Siemens Computer GmbH Unknown device 106a
 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 17
 I/O ports at e480 [size=32]
 
 00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM 
 (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller #2 (rev 03) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])
 Subsystem: Fujitsu Siemens Computer GmbH Unknown device 106a
 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 18
 I/O ports at e800 [size=32]
 
 00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM 
 (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller #3 (rev 03) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])
 Subsystem: Fujitsu Siemens Computer GmbH Unknown device 106a
 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 19
 I/O ports at e880 [size=32]
 
 00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-M) USB2 
 EHCI Controller (rev 03) (prog-if 20 [EHCI])
 Subsystem: Fujitsu Siemens Computer GmbH Unknown device 106a
 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 20
 Memory at e02ffc00 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=1K]
 Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2
 Capabilities: [58] Debug port
 
 00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev 83) 
 (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
 Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0
 Bus: primary=00, secondary=01, subordinate=09, sec-latency=64
 I/O behind bridge: c000-cfff
 Memory behind bridge: e000-e00f
 Prefetchable memory behind bridge: 2000-27ff
 
 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801DBM (ICH4-M) LPC Interface 
 Bridge (rev 03)
 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0
 
 00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801DBM (ICH4-M) IDE 
 Controller (rev 03) (prog-if 8a [Master SecP PriP])
 Subsystem: Fujitsu Siemens Computer GmbH Unknown device 106a
 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 19
 I/O ports at 01f0 [size=8]
 I/O ports at 03f4 [size=1]
 I/O ports at 0170 [size=8]
 I/O ports at 

Re: Carte SD défectueuse

2008-01-26 Thread Christophe Alonso

Le samedi 26 janvier 2008 à 10:14 +0100, Zelos a écrit :
 Bonjour à tous,

Bonjour,

 J'ai fait l'acquisition d'une carte SD pour mes vacances et elle est 
 pleine de photos et vidéos maintenant (1Go).
 Mon portable (Fujitsu/Siemens : Amilo M7405, en dual boot XP/Debian) 
 possède un lecteur de cartes SD. J'ai donc lu la carte (avec la 
 protection en écriture activée) par l'intermédiaire de XP car le lecteur 
 de la carte SD n'est pas actif sous Linux. Malheureusement, la carte est 
 devenue illisible et je n'ai récupéré qu'une partie des photos...
 
 1) Quelqu'un peut-il m'indiquer comment configurer ma Debian afin de 
 pouvoir utiliser ce lecteur de cartes ?
 (en fin de mail, le résultat d'un lspci -v)
 
 2) Quelles solutions envisagez-vous pour récupérer ces photos ? J'ai 
 pensé à un cat /dev/macartesd  tmp puis récupérer les images et vidéos 
 dans ce fichier. Qu'en pensez-vous ?

Vérifier que le module mmc soit bien chargé, peut-être ?

 Merci d'avance,
 Zelos



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Re: Carte SD défectueuse

2008-01-26 Thread Jean-Michel OLTRA

Bonjour,


Le samedi 26 janvier 2008, Zelos a écrit...


 2) Quelles solutions envisagez-vous pour récupérer ces photos ? J'ai  
 pensé à un cat /dev/macartesd  tmp puis récupérer les images et vidéos  
 dans ce fichier. Qu'en pensez-vous ?


Ne peux tu pas directement brancher ton apn sur l'usb, et la lire en
mass storage ?

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Re: Carte SD défectueuse

2008-01-26 Thread zecrazytux
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Bonjour,

J'ai donc lu la carte (avec la
 protection en écriture activée) par l'intermédiaire de XP car le lecteur
 de la carte SD n'est pas actif sous Linux. Malheureusement, la carte est
 devenue illisible et je n'ai récupéré qu'une partie des photos...

étrange, mais j'ai déja eu moi même des corruptions de FS sur des SD
(sur un zaurus sur des kernels 2.4 ou 2.6.16, depuis il y a eu de nettes
améliorations sur les drivers mmc)

 1) Quelqu'un peut-il m'indiquer comment configurer ma Debian afin de
 pouvoir utiliser ce lecteur de cartes ?

# modprobe mmc_core
# modprobe mmc_block

et peut être # modprobe driver: pour les cartes SDHCI, il est bon de
charger ce module, il y a un driver tifm_7xx1 aussi... essayer ?


 2) Quelles solutions envisagez-vous pour récupérer ces photos ? J'ai
 pensé à un cat /dev/macartesd  tmp puis récupérer les images et vidéos
 dans ce fichier. Qu'en pensez-vous ?

J'en pense que c'est là une bien étrange manière de faire ! La partition
d'une carte SD se monte sans problème du moment que la carte est bien
reconnue (device du style /dev/mmcblp1)


A noter que jusqu'il y a peu, je devais lancer un setpci afin de
désactiver un des contrôleur... La dernière fois que j'ai utilisé mon
lecteur sur ma SID, j'ai été surpris de n'avoir rien à faire ;)

Bonne journée,

Seb - zecrazytux


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Konqueror, Coloration Syntaxique ?

2008-01-26 Thread Tonio F
Bonjour,

Je me permets de poster après quelques recherches infructueuses sur le
net et sur divers forums.
Je suis tombé par hasard sur l'option Affichage de texte dans le menu
Affichage de Konqueror (3.5) , et je trouve le principe intéressant.
Toutefois tel que je l'ai pour l'instant, je retrouve le résultat
insuffisant (nom de répertoire en noir, et fichier en vert). Je
voudrais savoir si il existe un fichier de conf à modifier pour
obtenir une coloration syntaxique un peu plus affinée, en fonction du
type de fichiers, un peu comme celle que j'ai lors d'un ls dans le
shell ? J'ai regardé du côté de fichiers genre konqlistviewrc, et
konq_textview.rc, mais je n'ai rien trouvé de probant. Est ce que
quelqu'un aurait une petite idée ?
Merci d'avance pour toute suggestion.

Antoine



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Re: problèm e fetchmail (Suite)

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Re: Carte SD défectueuse

2008-01-26 Thread Zelos
Merci à tous pour vos indications. Malheureusement, je n'ai toujours pas 
réussi à lire la carte j'y ai pourtant ajouté les modules:

mmc_core
mmc_block
tifm_7xx1
mais je ne dispose pas de /dev/mmc (même avec une autre carte SD).

De plus, la carte n'est plus lisible non plus dans l'appareil...

D'autres pistes ?



zecrazytux wrote:

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Bonjour,

J'ai donc lu la carte (avec la
  

protection en écriture activée) par l'intermédiaire de XP car le lecteur
de la carte SD n'est pas actif sous Linux. Malheureusement, la carte est
devenue illisible et je n'ai récupéré qu'une partie des photos...



étrange, mais j'ai déja eu moi même des corruptions de FS sur des SD
(sur un zaurus sur des kernels 2.4 ou 2.6.16, depuis il y a eu de nettes
améliorations sur les drivers mmc)

  

1) Quelqu'un peut-il m'indiquer comment configurer ma Debian afin de
pouvoir utiliser ce lecteur de cartes ?



# modprobe mmc_core
# modprobe mmc_block

et peut être # modprobe driver: pour les cartes SDHCI, il est bon de
charger ce module, il y a un driver tifm_7xx1 aussi... essayer ?


  

2) Quelles solutions envisagez-vous pour récupérer ces photos ? J'ai
pensé à un cat /dev/macartesd  tmp puis récupérer les images et vidéos
dans ce fichier. Qu'en pensez-vous ?



J'en pense que c'est là une bien étrange manière de faire ! La partition
d'une carte SD se monte sans problème du moment que la carte est bien
reconnue (device du style /dev/mmcblp1)


A noter que jusqu'il y a peu, je devais lancer un setpci afin de
désactiver un des contrôleur... La dernière fois que j'ai utilisé mon
lecteur sur ma SID, j'ai été surpris de n'avoir rien à faire ;)

Bonne journée,

Seb - zecrazytux


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Re: Carte SD défectueuse

2008-01-26 Thread Jean-Yves F. Barbier

Zelos a écrit :
Merci à tous pour vos indications. Malheureusement, je n'ai toujours pas 
réussi à lire la carte j'y ai pourtant ajouté les modules:

mmc_core
mmc_block
tifm_7xx1
mais je ne dispose pas de /dev/mmc (même avec une autre carte SD).

De plus, la carte n'est plus lisible non plus dans l'appareil...

D'autres pistes ?


vi: vérifier que le support de generic scsi est intégré au kernel (avec les
HD scsi oeufcorse)

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Re: Freeze de l'affichage

2008-01-26 Thread Jean-Yves F. Barbier

Thierry Leurent a écrit :

Bonso


Bonjo


Je viens de réinstaller Debian sur mon portable.

Comme, je ne peux m'empêcher de faire comme les autres, j'y ai mis un 
mixe d'applis kde 3.5.8 / kde 4.0.0 avec un zeste de drivers nvidia proprio.
Je constate que l'affichage freeze, lorsqu'il sort du mode économie 
d'énergie.
J'ai regardé les logs et je ne vois rien. Avec mon ancienne version (kde 
3.5.8, drivers nv de xorg), je n'avais pas le problème.

Une recherche dans mes paquets me donne :
kpowersave install
libpowersave10 install
powermgmt-base install
powersaved install
powertop install
Je viens aussi de retire klaptopdaemon, je ne sais pas ce que cela peut 
entrainer.


il-y-a des chances que ça soit un device qui ne supporte pas la mise en
sommeil (ou plus exactement le type de réveil); tu n'as plus qu'à tester:)

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Re: Carte SD défectueuse

2008-01-26 Thread Sylvain Sauvage
Jean-Yves F. Barbier, samedi 26 janvier 2008, 17:56:27 CET
 
 Zelos a écrit :
  Merci à tous pour vos indications. Malheureusement, je n'ai
  toujours pas réussi à lire la carte j'y ai pourtant ajouté
  les modules: mmc_core
  mmc_block

  Quasiment tous les modules sont chargés automatiquement de nos
jours. De plus, ils vérifient les identifiants (constructeur et
produit), forcer leur chargement les force rarement à prendre en
charge un produit qu’il ne veulent pas prendre en compte.

  tifm_7xx1

  Ce module sert aux lecteurs Texas Instrument (lesquels,
semble-t-il, nécessitent en outre des bidouilles au niveau PCI).

  Tu pourrais aussi essayer les autres pilotes mmc
(/lib/modules/2.6.*/kernel/drivers/mmc/hosts/*) mais il y a peu
de chance qu’ils veuillent bien s’occuper d’un périphérique
qu’ils ne connaissent pas.
  Note que tous les pilotes MMC ne sont pas compilés dans les
noyaux Debian mais, d’après les docs et les sources, je ne les
crois pas gérer les O2.

  Enfin bref, une recherche sur internet et dans les sources du
noyau montre que les lecteurs O2 ne sont pas (encore) gérés.

  Désolé.

  (Il y a quelques fausses pistes avec des pilotes pour d’autres
lecteurs de chez O2 Micro, mais pas le tien.)

  (Note : pour les recherches, les ID PCI sont plus pratiques
que les noms, lesquels sont parfois tronqués ou orthographiés
différemment (O2Micro ou O2 Micro…), surtout dans les sources.)

  mais je ne dispose pas de /dev/mmc (même avec une autre
  carte SD).
  
  De plus, la carte n'est plus lisible non plus dans
  l'appareil...

  Ça, c’est plus embêtant. Il faudrait la tester dans d’autres
lecteurs, p.ex. USB.

[…]

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Re: Carte SD défectueuse

2008-01-26 Thread Zelos

D'accord. Mon lecteur de cartes SD n'est pas reconnu sous Linux :(
Penseez-vous que je puisse arriver à récupérer la carte depuis 
l'appareil photo en le connectant en usb ?

Même mes appareils photos veulent formater la carte.
Comment accéder à l'apperail photo par /dev/qqchose ? Le but est de 
récupèrer la carte sous forme de fichier afin de le parcourir et y 
extraire les photos. Je sais que c'est possible à partir d'un disque dur 
(ex: qd on les a effacés, on peut les récupèrer en y accédant par /dev/hda).


Avez-vous une solution ? J'ai bien peur que le SAV formate ma carte...

Sylvain Sauvage wrote:

Jean-Yves F. Barbier, samedi 26 janvier 2008, 17:56:27 CET
  

Zelos a écrit :


Merci à tous pour vos indications. Malheureusement, je n'ai
toujours pas réussi à lire la carte j'y ai pourtant ajouté
les modules: mmc_core
mmc_block
  


  Quasiment tous les modules sont chargés automatiquement de nos
jours. De plus, ils vérifient les identifiants (constructeur et
produit), forcer leur chargement les force rarement à prendre en
charge un produit qu’il ne veulent pas prendre en compte.

  

tifm_7xx1
  


  Ce module sert aux lecteurs Texas Instrument (lesquels,
semble-t-il, nécessitent en outre des bidouilles au niveau PCI).

  Tu pourrais aussi essayer les autres pilotes mmc
(/lib/modules/2.6.*/kernel/drivers/mmc/hosts/*) mais il y a peu
de chance qu’ils veuillent bien s’occuper d’un périphérique
qu’ils ne connaissent pas.
  Note que tous les pilotes MMC ne sont pas compilés dans les
noyaux Debian mais, d’après les docs et les sources, je ne les
crois pas gérer les O2.

  Enfin bref, une recherche sur internet et dans les sources du
noyau montre que les lecteurs O2 ne sont pas (encore) gérés.

  Désolé.

  (Il y a quelques fausses pistes avec des pilotes pour d’autres
lecteurs de chez O2 Micro, mais pas le tien.)

  (Note : pour les recherches, les ID PCI sont plus pratiques
que les noms, lesquels sont parfois tronqués ou orthographiés
différemment (O2Micro ou O2 Micro…), surtout dans les sources.)

  

mais je ne dispose pas de /dev/mmc (même avec une autre
carte SD).

De plus, la carte n'est plus lisible non plus dans
l'appareil...
  


  Ça, c’est plus embêtant. Il faudrait la tester dans d’autres
lecteurs, p.ex. USB.

  

[…]



  



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Re: Carte SD défectueuse

2008-01-26 Thread Jean-Yves F. Barbier

Zelos a écrit :

D'accord. Mon lecteur de cartes SD n'est pas reconnu sous Linux :(
Penseez-vous que je puisse arriver à récupérer la carte depuis 
l'appareil photo en le connectant en usb ?

Même mes appareils photos veulent formater la carte.
Comment accéder à l'apperail photo par /dev/qqchose ? Le but est de 
récupèrer la carte sous forme de fichier afin de le parcourir et y 
extraire les photos. Je sais que c'est possible à partir d'un disque dur 
(ex: qd on les a effacés, on peut les récupèrer en y accédant par 
/dev/hda).


Avez-vous une solution ? J'ai bien peur que le SAV formate ma carte...


trouver un pote qui a un lecteur USB (int ou ext) et essayer de la lire
soit chez lui, soit chez toi (si le lecteur est connu du kernel)

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Re: Carte SD défectueuse

2008-01-26 Thread Jean-Yves F. Barbier

oops, je n'avais pas relu le post d'org

il semble malheureusement que la carte soit en cause (en Gal l'électronique
pète soit dans le 1er mois, soit bien après)

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conserver propriété avec cp sur vfat

2008-01-26 Thread Remys Morrissette


Bonjour

comment faire pour :

- conserver les propriété date d'un fichier

   lors d'une copie, de ext2 vers vfat,

en simple utilisateur ?


le tout fonctionne bien avec sudo.

:~$ cp -a /home/remys/test /media/hdb12/
cp: préservation des dates pour `/media/hdb12/test': Opération non permise

:~$ sudo cp -a /home/remys/test /media/hdb12/
cp: échec de préservation du propriétaire pour `/media/hdb12/test': 
Opération non permise


voici le mtab :

/dev/hdb5 / ext3 rw,errors=remount-ro 0 0
/dev/hdb7 /home ext3 rw 0 0
/dev/hdb10 /media/hdb10 ext3 rw 0 0
/dev/hdb11 /media/hdb11 vfat rw,umask=000 0 0
/dev/hdb12 /media/hdb12 vfat rw,umask=000 0 0
/dev/hdb8 /media/hdb8 ext3 rw 0


Merci
Remys


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Texte invisible dans les applis GTK

2008-01-26 Thread Jb Van Puyvelde
Hello la liste !

depuis un dist-upgrade de ma Sid, le texte et les images des boutons ont 
dispparus des applications GTK. Il ne s'agit pas d'un problème de couleur 
ou de thème. Seul persisste le trait qui souligne la lettre qui sert de 
raccourci clavier.

Un bug similaire (#376714) avait été déclaré en 2006 indiquant un 
problème avec la libcairo 1.2.0-1. Une mise à jour vers la version 
1.0.4-2 résolvait le problème. Dans la Sid actuelle, la version de la 
libcairo est encore plus récente (1.4.14-1), le problème ne devrait donc 
pas venir de là, même si les symptomes sont similaires.

J'ai verifier la configuration de Xorg et tout semble ok. Aucun message 
d'erreur dans les logs non plus. 

Une fois, je ne serais pas expliqué pourquoi ni comment, le texte est 
revenu : je m'amusais à inspecter le package libcairo2 avec aptitude et 
en relançant gdm, tout est revenu dans l'ordre. Pourtant je n'ai fais 
qu'un reinstall et un show du packet, pas de downgrad. Mais après un 
reboot, le problème était de retour. Dans le doute, j'ai essayé de 
refaire ce qui aurait pu régler le problème, c-à-d relancer gdm et 
réinstaller la libcairo, mais cette fois le texte reste invisible.

Bref, je n'ai aucune idée d'où peut venir le problème, en avez-vous ?

Merci d'avance,

Jb


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Problème après avoir installé Compiz

2008-01-26 Thread Patrice OLIVER
Bonjour,

Après avoir installé compiz, je ne peut plus utiliser la touche AltGr
de mon clavier. Elle ne donne plus accès aux caractères pipe,
backslash, arobase ... de mon clavier en environnement graphique, même
dans konsole (je suis sous KDE). Par contre, si je prend une session
dans les terminaux virtuels de 1 à 6, aucun problème. Ce problème
s'est donc greffé sur xorg. De plus, quand je travaille dans konsole
et que j'affiche beaucoup d'information ('apt-get search ...' par
exemple), les espaces sont remplacés par des petits points, un peu
comme dans openoffice quand on demande à afficher tous les caractères
d'un document ...

Je suis preneur de toute piste.
:)

Patrice.



Lecture d'une image ISO avec Xine

2008-01-26 Thread David BERCOT
Bonjour,

Savez-vous s'il est possible, avec Xine, de lire un fichier ISO, image
d'un DVD ? Lorsque j'essaye, j'ai systématiquement un message d'erreur
me disant qu'il n'a pas le bon plug-in de démultiplexage... J'ai essayé
de rajouter toutes les librairies relatives à Xine, sans succès...

Merci d'avance.

David.


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Nautilus - problem z montowaniem.

2008-01-26 Thread yxq
Witam,

Gdy jestem w Gnome w Przeglądarce plików i na pasku Położenia próbuję 
wybrać jakąś partycję (ntfs, bądź ext3), to dostaję komunikat:
Nie można zamontować woluminu.
Nie masz uprawnień do zamontowania woluminu 'data'
Gdzie data to nazwa partycji, którą próbuję zamontować.
W Ubuntu, gdy zrobiłem to samo, to pojawiło się okno gksudo, w którym podałem 
hasło zalogowanego użytkownika i wtedy partycja została zamontowana i miałem do 
niej dostęp.
Co trzeba zrobić w Debianie, żeby jego zachowanie było podobne, czyli pojawiało 
się okienko gksudo przy próbie zamontowania partycji?




tłumaczeniach intefejsu błędy

2008-01-26 Thread fnm...@poczta.neostrada.pl
Błedy znalezione w pakietach polonizujących synaptic.mo i
libapt-pkg3.11.mo (Etech).
==
synaptic.mo --- jest ,,Pomyślnie zainstalowany wszystkie pakiety z
wybranego nośnika. Aby''

powinno być --- ,,Pomyślnie zainstalowano wszystkie pakiety z wybranego
nośnika. Aby''

==
libapt-pkg3.11.mo --- jest ,,Skawnowanie płyty w poszukiwaniu plików
indeksu..''

powinno być --- ,,Skanowanie płyty w poszukiwaniu plików indeksu...''
==

Błedy te, występują w tym miejscu, włacznie od wersji Sarge do
najnowszych wersji (właczając w to pakiety *buntu).

pozdrawiam

fnmirk --- Debian



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Re: Revista Tuxinfo Nro 3

2008-01-26 Thread rferroni
Felicitaciones por otra entrega más.
Saludos a todos los que hacen la hacen posible.

Rodrigo.



Re: [lenny][fglrx][Bloqueo completo del sistema]

2008-01-26 Thread ChEnChO
Para saber si es el driver, por qué no lo deshabilitas y usas el free?
De hecho, por qué no usas el free?


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Re: Recuperar MBR o tabla de particiones.

2008-01-26 Thread francisco

El vie, 25-01-2008 a las 16:43 +0100, Manolo Díaz escribió:
 El Fri, 25 Jan 2008 05:35:27 -0800
 francisco [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:
 
  El dom, 20-01-2008 a las 17:27 +0100, Manolo Díaz escribió:
   El Sun, 20 Jan 2008 07:48:58 -0800
   francisco [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:
   
El dom, 20-01-2008 a las 14:22 +0100, Manolo Díaz escribió:
 El Sun, 20 Jan 2008 05:13:58 -0800
 francisco [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:
 
 
  
  El disco /dev/sdb no contiene una tabla de particiones válida
  
 
 Si no recuerdo mal testdisk puede intentar descubrir qué
 particiones existen en el disco y, a partir de ahí, recrear la
 tabla de particiones. Tan sólo lo he usado una vez, con un
 disco con varias particiones NTFS, y a mí me funcionó.
 
 Saludos y suerte.

Si, pero el problema esta en darle el numero exacto de Cilindros,
H= cabezas y Sectores. Sin ese dato, dificilmente encuentra la
particion.

Si puedes y quieres, podrias decir como hacerlo o como lo
hicistes?

Gracias.


   
   Si conoces los valores correctos (ej. mirando el modelo y buscando
   sus características) puedes usar la opcion geometry de testdisk
   para reestablecerlos.
   
   Espero que ayude. Saludos
   
  
  hola, gracias por ayudar.
  
  El DD es un Seagate, Barracuda 7200.10, 320 Gbytes, ST3320620A, 255
  Heads, 63 Sectors/Track, Guarantead sectors = 625,142,448.
  
  Pero, tambien dice: Heads 4, Disc 2, Bytes/sector 512, Default heads
  16, Default Cilinders 16,383 y Units = Cilinders of 16,065 * 512 =
  8,225,280.
  
  Sorpresa, el resultado NO es 320 Gbytes, ni la medida exacta usando
  1024/Mb
  
  
 
 El caso es que son 320GB, no 320GiB. Haz las cuentas: 625.142.448
 sectores de 512B cada uno; un GB es igual a 10 elevado a 9 bytes.
 625.142.448 * 512 / 1000.000.000 es aproximadamente igual a 320.
 
 Sin embargo, tomando los datos del segundo párrafo no me salen las
 cuentas (uno 135GB). Esto puede deberse a:
 
 1 mi ignorancia sobre el tema. Lo más probable.
 2 Usando esa configuración se desaprovecha gran parte del disco.
 
 Saludos
 

hola

La geometria correcta es:
Disco /dev/sdb: 320.0 GB, 320072933376 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 38913 cylinders
Units = cilindros of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x009a49ec

Disposit. InicioComienzo  Fin  Bloques  Id  Sistema
/dev/sdb1   *   1   38913   312568641   83  Linux

Cual es la diferencis entre GB y GiB?

El asunto ya esta solucionado!

El problema es con el USB Acomdata, no funciona correctamente, despues
de conectarlo al Vista; compre un Smart-Drive y ya no tengo problemas.

Es curioso que la mayoria de paquetes o programas que use, no reportaban
nada con respecto al bloqueo del flujo de informacion; gracias a ese
bloqueo, los DDs no se danaron.

Gracias y hasta pronto.


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Re: Duda sobre wget [SOLUCIONADO]

2008-01-26 Thread Marcel Rodolfo Sanchez Gongora
El vie, 25-01-2008 a las 21:49 -0200, Matías A. Bellone escribió:
 Marcel Rodolfo Sanchez Gongora wrote:
  Hola amigos. Tengo un problema que no he podido resolver usando wget y
  es el siguiente. Cuando tengo una url de descarga que me redirecciona a
  otra no se me descarga el archivo sino la pagina.
 
 Esto no es problema de wget sino es un comportamiento deseado. No por el 
 usuario sino por el dueño de la página que tiene controles internos para 
 evitar este tipo de cosas.
 
 Normalmente ésto se hace restringiendo los accesos a determinados 
 User-Agents. Los que son identificados por una cabecera esepcial. Por 
 suerte wget está al tanto de esto y - basándome en tu ejemplo y 
 utlizando el wget disponible en Lenny - se puede modificar el User-Agent 
 que reporta wget con la opción -U.
 
 Lo que es más -U  hace que dicha cabecera ni siquiera sea enviada. 
 Probé utilizar esta opción con tu ejemplo y aparenta funcionar como esperas.
Muchas gracias por la respuesta Matías... 

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Linux User #382151
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Universidad de las Ciencias Informáticas
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Re: Montar um servidor cache!

2008-01-26 Thread Brivaldo Junior
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Eduardo,

  Bem para controle de navegação você pode:

  * Usar o Squid em modo transparente.
  * QoS para controle de banda por computador usando HTB (procure na
lista, esses dias um rapaz perguntou sobre isso)
  * E configurar um bom firewall para não ter problemas depois, uma
idéia legal seria usar um IDS como o SNORT + Guardian.

Abraços,
Brivaldo Jr (condector)
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Re: Problemas com LDAP Client no Debian Testing

2008-01-26 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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On 25-01-2008 10:11, Rodrigo Tavares wrote:
 Pessoal,
 
 Estou penando para fazer a minha estação Debian
 testing logar no meu servidor de LDAP.

Isso é uma combinação de nsswitch e PAM.


 Existe um arquivo de exemplo em
 /usr/share/doc/libnss-ldap/examples/nsswitch.ldap

Na verdade, você só precisa adicionar a opção 'ldap'
no passwd: group: e shadow:


 Mesmo usando o exemplo não consigo com o comando
 getent passwd para retornar todos os usuários no LDAP.

Isso depende da configuração da sua árvore, das
políticas de bind e ACLs. Você também tem que configurar
o /etc/ldap/ldap.conf de acordo.



 Alguma ja configurou o ldap no debian testing ?
 
 Att,


 #arquivo de exemplo
 # the following two lines obviate the + entry in
 /etc/passwd and /etc/group.
 passwd: files ldap
 group:  files ldap

E precisa do shadow

shadow: files ldap


Se você pegar o arquivo padrão do nsswitch é
só mudar as linhas para adicionar o ldap. Depois você
precisa ajustar o pam_ldap.

http://wiki.debian.org/LDAP

Abraço,
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Documentaçao de como criar OpenLDAP com S amba

2008-01-26 Thread Rodrigo Tavares
Pessoal,

Há um ano atrás fiz um servidor SMB + LDAP, porém na
época não tinha documentado, mesmo se tivesse creio
que não iria ajudar muito.

Alguém me indica uma boa documentação para levantar o
ldap com samba ?

Pesquisei alguma soluções na internet mas algumas
estão desatualizadas e confusas.

Att,

Faria


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Re: #433131 Etch'de giderilebilir mi?

2008-01-26 Thread Mert Dirik
Recai Bey;

Öncelikle ayrıntılı ve tatmin edici yanıtınız için çok teşekkür ederim.
Aklımda hiç bir soru işareti bırakmadınız.


Recai Oktaş yazmış:
 Merhaba,
 
 * Mert Dirik [2008-01-25 21:21:28+0200]
 1. Bu hata Etch'in bir sonraki point release'inde giderilebilir mi?
 
 (1) Debian X grubu önerir ve (2) release yöneticileri onaylarsa mümkün.  Bu
 öneriler point-release'den önce 'etch-proposed-updates' arşivine gider.  Bu
 onay görüşmesi çoğunlukla arşive yükleme yapılmadan önce yapılır.
 
 (4.0r3) Hatanın önem derecesi normal, fakat bir şekilde hatanın önemli
 olduğuna ikna edebilirsek hatanın stable sürümde düzeltilme şansı var
 mı? (Ubuntu'da bu hatanın veri kaybına neden olduğu sonucuna varıldı ve
 hata yakında LTS sürümde düzeltilecek gibi duruyor. [1])
 
 Hatanın önem derecesi yanıltıcı olabilir.  Muhtemelen hatayı bildiren kişi
 bu işlemi öntanımlı değerlerle çabucak yapmıştır.  Görebildiğim kadarıyla
 bu hata sadece 433131 ile bildirilmemiş: 411287 396774 395354 ile de aynı
 sorun bildirilmiş ve bunların bir kısmında önem derecesi RC.
 
433131 önemli olarak bildirilmiş, fakat daha sonra Lior Kaplan
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) tarafından normal olarak değiştirilmiş. Eğer Kaplan
X takımındaysa takımı ikna etmem biraz daha zor olacak :D

 2. Bu isteğimi geliştiricilere iletmenin uygun yolu nedir? BTS yoluyla
 mı, yoksa debian-x listesi yoluyla mı?
 
 Yukarıdaki prosedür gereği önce debian-x grubunu ikna etmek gerekiyor.
 Fikir vermesi için xorg-server'a önerilen güncellemelere bir bakalım.
 Mesela şu (24 Ocak tarihli yükleme):
 
 http://altruistic.lbl.gov/mirrors/debian/dists/etch-proposed-updates/xorg-server_1.1.1-21etch4_i386.changes
 
 Burada bazen bunaltıcı bir hal alan bir bürokrasi olduğunun farkındayım
 (maalesef Debian'da işler bazen çok yavaş ilerleyebiliyor).
 
 Hatayla ilgili düşüncelerime gelince:
 
 - Bu ciddi bir hata ve bence de kararlı sürümde düzeltilmeli.
 - Öte yandan, her ciddi düzeltme kararlı sürüme uygulanmaz.  Kararlı sürüme
   uygulanan düzeltmeler çoğunlukla güvenlik amaçlıdır.  Veri kaybı da bazı
   çekincelerle dikkate alınır, bunu çok açık şekilde ispatlamanız ve
   düzeltmenin regresyona yol açmadığını göstermeniz kaydıyla.
 - 433131'ü çözen yama basit ve temiz görünüyor.  Fakat xorg-server görece
   geniş bir etki alanına sahip olduğundan bu yamanın _kararlı sürümde_ bir
   regresyona yol açabileceği endişesini dile getirebilirler.  Mesela
   önceden hatalarıyla da olsa _beklenen_ şekilde çalışan bazı betikler veya
   programlar beklenmeyen davranışlar sergileyebilir.

X'te Geçen hafta yapılan bir güvenlik güncellemesi de ufak bir
regresyona yol açmıştı. İşim daha da zorlaşıyor :D

Belki de yamanın önce Ubuntu 6.06'ya girmesini beklemek iyi olur. Eğer
Ubuntu'da bir sorun çıkmazsa aynı yama Etch'e de uygulanabilir. Fakat bu
X takımının vereceği bir karar, ben isteğimi hemen ileteceğim.
(sonradan gelen düzenleme: ilettim bile :D [0])

İyi çalışmalar

Mert Dirik

[0] http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.devel.x/62947


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Re: cd seen as blank cd - solved

2008-01-26 Thread Thierry Chatelet
After multiple trials, nothing made sense. So I change again the cd-drive, but 
I used another brand this time. And everything is OK now.
The brand that did not work was an Soni NEC Optiarc
Thierry


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Re: mscompress

2008-01-26 Thread Nyizsnyik Ferenc
On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 18:17:23 -0800
David Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 1/25/08, Angus Auld [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Way above my head, but interesting just the same. I
  just
  sort of wanted to know how to use mscompress to
  de-compress
 
 Angus:
 
 I think you'll find that ordinary unzip or 7zip can do that for you.
 There basically are two kinds of compressed executables
 
 1) the executable archive, basically a zip file with a little bit of
 program code that basically says to unzip me. These files are far
 more common, and handle very well on Linux.
 
 2) the expand type compressed exes. These are distinct because they
 all have a trailing _ as part of their name, and only seems to be
 common on Windows installation media, to save space on the disks. I
 don't think there is a tool that will handle this natively on Linux.
 

Actually mscompress and msexpand were made to handle this type of files.

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Re: cd seen as blank cd - solved

2008-01-26 Thread Thierry Chatelet
On Saturday 26 January 2008 09:28, Thierry Chatelet wrote:
 After multiple trials, nothing made sense. So I change again the cd-drive,
 but I used another brand this time. And everything is OK now.
 The brand that did not work was an Soni NEC Optiarc
 Thierry

Euh, I am on the run, but it does not uxcuse myself for not saiing a 
big Thank you to Douglas!!!


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exim question

2008-01-26 Thread Daniel Haude
Hello,

Due a to an error in my /etc/exim4/passwd.client, quite a bit of mail was
refused by the remote SMTP relay host. I now fixed it but can't find the
messages any more. Does exim dump them? I still have them in my sent-mail
folder and can bounce them, but I thought there maybe was some queue
seomwhere.

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How to set up simple cgi web

2008-01-26 Thread hce
Hi,

I thought if I create /www or /etc/www in my debian PC, and add an
index.htm and cgi file to cgi-bin directory, I should be able to
access http://my_ip_address/index.html. But, it did not work. how can
I make that work?

Thank you.

Jim


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Re: Strange boot message

2008-01-26 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Fri, Jan 25, 2008 at 14:31:53 -0800, Bob McGowan wrote:
 Frank McCormick wrote:
 Can anyone tell  me what this message in syslog is all about ???

[...]

 intel_rng:
   Firmware space is locked read-only.  If you can't or don't want to  
 disable this in firmware setup, and if you are certain that your system  
 has a functional RNG, try using the 'no_fwh_detect' option.

 See  
 http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-559170-highlight-.html?sid=a7efc65428c708b5d3986e327046a049
 for some info on RNG (Random Number Generator).

 Since the error is that the space is locked, rather than missing (not  
 detected), it may be safe to use the no_fwh-detect option for loading  
 this kernel module.

 The only issue now is how to do it.  I've never done anything with  
 options on autoloaded modules, so I have no suggestions, perhaps others  
 can help here.

According to modinfo intel-rng:

parm:   no_fwh_detect:Skip FWH detection:
 positive value - skip if FWH space locked read-only
 negative value - skip always (int)

So I would try to create a new configuration file in /etc/modprobe.d/;
call it, for example, local-intel-rng. The name does not matter as
long as you avoid special characters (hyphen and underscore are OK), but
it is advisable to choose a name that indicates the relevant module and
the fact that you created the file yourself. This configuration file
should contain one line (see man modprobe.d):

options intel-rng no_fwh_detect=1

Then reboot (or unload/reload the module) and check if the message is
gone.

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RE: Where do you put your swap partition?

2008-01-26 Thread Mike Kuhar
I think that's quite reasonable.

-mike


(Sorry to be late to the show.)

All my systems run from a single disk drive.  I put the 
swap partition as close to the middle of the disk on the 
theory that that'll minimize seek time for a function I want 
to run as quickly as possible.  Is this reasonable?

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bootcd, boocdwrite, kernel with CD support built in

2008-01-26 Thread Paul Csanyi
Hello!

I want to use bootcd to write my Debian system onto a CD.

That CD want then use to install this system on my old Toshiba laptop.

The laptop requires other kernel, then my Pentium 4 machine.

I think I must to build a custom kernel for this pourpose.

I red man bootcdwrite and there stand this:
It is important that the kernel can access the cdrom on the system,
where you want to boot from the CD, without having to load any modules.
(Because to load  modules  from  CD,  the kernel  must have access to
CD before).
If this is not the case you have first to create a new kernel with
CD-support built in.

I have installed 2.6.18-5-686 SMP linux-image.

I searched in config-2.6.18-5-686 file for the CD support line, but
not shore whether
I finded it.
Is it the following lines?

CONFIG_IDE=m
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDE=m

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Re: How to set up simple cgi web

2008-01-26 Thread Micaela Gallerini
2008/1/26, hce [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Hi,

 I thought if I create /www or /etc/www in my debian PC, and add an
 index.htm and cgi file to cgi-bin directory, I should be able to
 access http://my_ip_address/index.html. But, it did not work. how can
 I make that work?

 Thank you.


hi,
   apache work on var/www not etc/www. Afterwards, you create the directory on

/var/www not in /etc

if you use apache2, you manually set the dir /var/www in:

/etc/apache2/apache2.conf

regards,

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Re: problemas

2008-01-26 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Mon, Jan 21, 2008 at 10:56:27PM -0500, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
 
 The ipmasq package sets up a basic masquerading firewall based on the
 'net' being in the direction of the default route.  If you want more
 control of the firewall, install the shorewall-doc package, read it,
 then remove ipmasq and install shorewall.  While some people write raw
 iptables firewalls themselves, most on this list (last I saw a poll) use
 shorewall.  If you know PF on BSD, you'll feel comfortable with
 shorewall.
  
 You'll also need to turn on IP forwarding in /etc/sysctl.conf

Shorewall can do that too. Just set

IP_FORWARDING=On

in /etc/shorewall/shorewall.conf

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linuxdcpp and xchat2 unusable after KDE4 upgrade?

2008-01-26 Thread Nenad Markovic

Hi,
Im not sure this is somehow conected and it's very strange.
First, I've upgraded to KDE4 whren it was in experimental (3.96, 3.97
and 3.98SVN later on). Then my problems with linuxdcpp and xchat
started. i thought that they would fix when KDE4 is moved to unstable,
but this never happend.
Here what happens when linuxdcpp is started from konsole:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ linuxdcpp
Loading: Hash database
Loading: Shared Files
Loading: Download Queue

(linuxdcpp:19171): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_box_reorder_child: assertion
`GTK_IS_WIDGET (child)' failed
The program 'linuxdcpp' received an X Window System error.
This probably reflects a bug in the program.
The error was 'BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)'.
  (Details: serial 2111 error_code 8 request_code 2 minor_code 0)
  (Note to programmers: normally, X errors are reported asynchronously;
   that is, you will receive the error a while after causing it.
   To debug your program, run it with the --sync command line
   option to change this behavior. You can then get a meaningful
   backtrace from your debugger if you break on the gdk_x_error()
function.)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$

xchat2 runs ok, until right mouse button is clicked for menu, then it's
same thing as with linuxdcpp:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ xchat
The program 'xchat' received an X Window System error.
This probably reflects a bug in the program.
The error was 'BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)'.
  (Details: serial 49250 error_code 8 request_code 2 minor_code 0)
  (Note to programmers: normally, X errors are reported asynchronously;
   that is, you will receive the error a while after causing it.
   To debug your program, run it with the --sync command line
   option to change this behavior. You can then get a meaningful
   backtrace from your debugger if you break on the gdk_x_error()
function.)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$

In gnome from unstable(2.20.2) this 2 apps run ok.
Please help? :)
TIA
Nenad


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Re: brasero - not a bug in unstable [SOLVED]

2008-01-26 Thread Jozef Peterka
ok :) I am happy to announce that that nonsense so called bug was
closed, and that brasero is going in testing today :)
thanx to anyone who read my mail and did something about it 

KaiSVK

On Wed, 2008-01-23 at 09:37 +0100, Kai AKA KaiSVK wrote:
 Hi all,
 I am not sure, If I hit the right mailing list, but:
 I am using testing and I wanted to install brasero, but brasero is only
 in unstable, cause there is reported bug against it. The problem is, as
 the author of the bug report explains here
 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=454640, is not a bug AT
 ALL !!! this only one bug is blocking the way of brasero to testing.
 My question is, who can I turn to, when the brasero package maintainer
 doesn't answer my e-mails.
 
 Thanx in advance
 KaiSVK 
 
 


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Re: OT: How to detect a keypress, and in which language?

2008-01-26 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Kent West wrote:

Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

Kent West wrote:
Too bad; I think a lot of the hams would have enjoyed writing a 
simple little program to turn their PCs into a Morse keyer.




I am no radio hammmer (?) no morse code since I was a boyscout 60 
years ago. But I would think that one would rather use let's say the 
space bar as a key for either dit's or dah's. Or alternatively just 
type text and the program would translate in dit's and dah's. More 
interesting would be to use the key and see if the program can read 
what is being keyed.




The space bar as a keyer would be fine as a straight-key (just the 
single up-down paddle you see in the movies about the Old West), but I 
was thinking more along the lines of emulating a paddle (two side-ways 
keys mounted back-to-back, so that your thumb produces dits and  your 
fore/middle finger produces dahs as you barely move your hand 
left-right-left). But it would be trivial to modify the program from one 
mode to the other. The hard part, as we've all discovered, is reading 
the keys while bypassing the buffer and controlling the speaker.


That would indeed be interesting for the program to recognize and 
display what is being keyed; that would be a good training aid for 
producing clean code; if the computer can't read your hand, the ham on 
the other side of the world will have trouble reading it also.




Aha! Good explanation. Forgive the ignorance. I did not know about the 
'paddles'.


Let me give the single up-down paddle a try. It appears that amidst all 
the uncertainties here one cannot depend on a wait interval *always* 
to be that long to one's ears. This in relation to both the sound 
duration and the wait between sounds.


I played with playing 'SOS' in the background (=forked) and I never get 
anything recognizable:

http://www.esnips.com/doc/da934a43-a63a-4276-b39c-a4cb385444fa/do_dit_dah_working


Hugo


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Re: OT: How to detect a keypress, and in which language?

2008-01-26 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Daniel Burrows wrote:

On Sun, Jan 20, 2008 at 04:27:50PM -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
was heard to say:
Turns out that keypress access *is* the hardest. You have that in Qt but  
you have to be running in X and within a widget. It's ridiculous to do  
all that to find out if a key is pressed.


I have no idea how to find out in low-level programming whether a key is  
depressed.


Any kernel savvy people out there?


  Have you looked at SDL?  It gives you fairly simple access to the
keyboard, and I *think* it can work outside X.



Package: libsdl1.2debian (1.2.13-1 and others)

SDL is a library that allows programs portable low level access to a 
video framebuffer, audio output, mouse, and keyboard.


have not tried that.

Hugo


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Prism54 Wlan (lenny)

2008-01-26 Thread Klaus Kreuzpaintner
Hello everbody,

i installed Debian Sid 2 days and i cann't not get my wireless (Netgear 
WG 511) card to work. If I plug it in the PCMCIA slot the prism54 module 
gets loaded properly but it seems that the firmware is not uploaded to 
the card. I've put it in all possible direcotries (for example /lib/
firmware/ /usr/lib/firmware/hotplug etc. etc), so it should be found by 
the module. Also the output of 'dmesg' doesn't contain any error message.

I also compiled my own kernel (2.4.26rc8) with the debian config but 
neither the debian kernel nor my own kernel make my wifi card work :-(.

I also read a bit about google and found that the hotplug package is 
needed, but that was replaced by udev. Has my problem somthing to do with 
that?

Thanks for helping!

Best wishes
Klaus


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Re: Installation of hard drive

2008-01-26 Thread Pantor

Andres Migliazzo wrote:

Hi,
Please, login as root and run the comand mount, then show us the 
standar output AND the /etc/fstab file. Tell us which is the file 
systems that you have used on new disk partitions (VFAT, EXT2/3, NTFS, 
UFS, REISERFS, etc).


Regards

On Jan 25, 2008 4:13 PM, Pantor [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


KS wrote:
  Pantor wrote:
  KS wrote:
  Pantor wrote:
  Lads,
 
  would you be able to advice please, how to install a second
hard drive
  which have preinstalled Windows. PC booting Windows after hard
drive has
  been plugged in. Windows should be cleared, but how thee partition
  works?
 
  Thank you,
 
  Andrius
  I would just connect the hard disk and boot. My new/old hard
disks have
  been detected without a hitch when booting. Then comes the use of a
  partitioning tool like cfdisk, fdisk, etc. and after that you
can use
  mkfs to create the file system. If you like using the GUI more,
install
  gparted or qtparted and use that to partition and format the
hard disk.
 
  HTH
  If to boot then windows will boot. Gparted
  shows:
89-125-103-244:/home/andrius# gparted
  ==
  libparted : 1.7.1
  automounting disabled
  ==
  Unable to open /dev/hda read-write (Read-only file system).
 /dev/hda
  has been opened read-only.
  Unable to open /dev/hda - unrecognised disk label.
  Andrius
 
 
  Where do you have Debian installed? /dev/hdb? Where did you install
  Grub? You need to give more details about your setup.
 
 

Debian installed on sda,
New disk hdc installed and partitioned, but still not visible in media:/


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 It seems tha a mistake was made in last line.
   # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
# file system mount point   type  options   dump  pass
proc/proc   procdefaults0   0
/dev/sda1   /   ext3defaults,errors=remount-ro 0   1
/dev/sda5   noneswapsw  0   0
/dev/hda/media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0   0
/dev/fd0/media/floppy0  autorw,user,noauto  0   0
/dev/hdc1 /mnt/hdc1 ext3 default 2 1

Instead default should be defaults. But after change a error message 
permission denied appear in Konqueror window.



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Re: Installation of hard drive

2008-01-26 Thread Pantor

Pantor wrote:

Andres Migliazzo wrote:

Hi,
Please, login as root and run the comand mount, then show us the 
standar output AND the /etc/fstab file. Tell us which is the file 
systems that you have used on new disk partitions (VFAT, EXT2/3, NTFS, 
UFS, REISERFS, etc).


Regards

On Jan 25, 2008 4:13 PM, Pantor [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


KS wrote:
  Pantor wrote:
  KS wrote:
  Pantor wrote:
  Lads,
 
  would you be able to advice please, how to install a second
hard drive
  which have preinstalled Windows. PC booting Windows after hard
drive has
  been plugged in. Windows should be cleared, but how thee 
partition

  works?
 
  Thank you,
 
  Andrius
  I would just connect the hard disk and boot. My new/old hard
disks have
  been detected without a hitch when booting. Then comes the 
use of a

  partitioning tool like cfdisk, fdisk, etc. and after that you
can use
  mkfs to create the file system. If you like using the GUI more,
install
  gparted or qtparted and use that to partition and format the
hard disk.
 
  HTH
  If to boot then windows will boot. Gparted
  shows:
89-125-103-244:/home/andrius# gparted
  ==
  libparted : 1.7.1
  automounting disabled
  ==
  Unable to open /dev/hda read-write (Read-only file system).
 /dev/hda
  has been opened read-only.
  Unable to open /dev/hda - unrecognised disk label.
  Andrius
 
 
  Where do you have Debian installed? /dev/hdb? Where did you 
install

  Grub? You need to give more details about your setup.
 
 

Debian installed on sda,
New disk hdc installed and partitioned, but still not visible in 
media:/



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 It seems tha a mistake was made in last line.
# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
# file system mount point   type  options   dump  pass
proc/proc   procdefaults0   0
/dev/sda1   /   ext3defaults,errors=remount-ro 
0   1

/dev/sda5   noneswapsw  0   0
/dev/hda/media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0   0
/dev/fd0/media/floppy0  autorw,user,noauto  0   0
/dev/hdc1 /mnt/hdc1 ext3 default 2 1

Instead default should be defaults. But after change a error message 
permission denied appear in Konqueror window.




And mount still does not work
89-125-103-244:/home/andrius# mount /dev/hdc1
mount: mount point /mnt/hdc1 does not exist


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Cable Modem setup

2008-01-26 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Hi,

This box (Sid: now on a dialup modem) is to be moved to a different 
location where there is only a cable modem.


So once there I either connect or I don't. I cannot get anything from 
the net in any other way.


Having googled the subject, the HOWTO (from 2004) says:
Most, if not all, cable modems are easily configured for use with Linux

So please check me if what I think is right:

1. The box has an (presently unused) ethernet port and lspci shows it:
00:12.0 Ethernet controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6102 [Rhine-II] 
(rev 78)


2. dhcp client is installed:
ii  dhcp3-client 3.0.6-1DHCP client
ii  dhcp3-common 3.0.6-1common 
files used by all the dhcp3* packages


3. All I have to do is change /etc/networking/interfaces from:
auto lo
iface lo inet loopback
auto ppp0
iface ppp0 inet ppp
post-up iptables-restore  /etc/iptables.up.rules

to:
auto lo
iface lo inet loopback
auto eth0
iface eth0 inet dhcp
post-up iptables-restore  /etc/iptables.up.rules

and issue: ifup

4. I have the DVD's for Etch. I could also do a new install for Etch (I 
now have all Sid) and that should automatically find the cable modem 
in the new installation.


Sound right?

Hugo






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Re: bootcd, boocdwrite, kernel with CD support built in

2008-01-26 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Paul Csanyi wrote:

Hello!

I want to use bootcd to write my Debian system onto a CD.

That CD want then use to install this system on my old Toshiba laptop.

The laptop requires other kernel, then my Pentium 4 machine.

I think I must to build a custom kernel for this pourpose.

I red man bootcdwrite and there stand this:
It is important that the kernel can access the cdrom on the system,
where you want to boot from the CD, without having to load any modules.
(Because to load  modules  from  CD,  the kernel  must have access to
CD before).
If this is not the case you have first to create a new kernel with
CD-support built in.

I have installed 2.6.18-5-686 SMP linux-image.

I searched in config-2.6.18-5-686 file for the CD support line, but
not shore whether
I finded it.
Is it the following lines?

CONFIG_IDE=m
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDE=m



I would use mondo first. That writes everything to CD and makes the CD 
bootable with your present kernel.


Then try to boot that on the Toshiba and see what you get: you lose 
nothing. Then you can adjust your present kernel to correct any errors.


Hugo


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Re: mscompress

2008-01-26 Thread owens

 --- Paul Cartwright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thu January 24 2008, Angus Auld wrote:
  Thanks for your reply Paul. So, if I understand, a
  windows binary
  installation package .exe isn't like a nix binary
 like
  .deb or .rpm?

 not exactly. look for the homepage, maybe it
 explains better:

 MsCompress for Windows

 MsCompress: compress data using LZ77 algorithm
 Version

 0.3
 Description

 MsCompress is a Microsoft compress.exe/expand.exe
 compatible (de)compressor.
 This package contains two programs:

 * msexpand, which decompresses files compressed
 by Microsoft compress.exe
 utility (e.g. Win 3.x installation files)
 * mscompress, which compresses files using LZ77
 compression algorithm.
 Output files can be decompressed using Microsoft
 expand.exe or msexpand(1).

 Homepage

 ftp://ftp.penguin.cz/pub/users/mhi/mscompress


  I thought it was, well sort of anyway.
  What exactly is mscompress/msexpand supposed to
 do?
 
  I want to extract some icons from an
 MSN_Messenger.exe
 
  binary package. Is there no way to do that?

 no, you don't extract icons from an EXE. try google:
 icons msn messenger
 I got this site ( for one):

 http://www.msnicon.com/

 it has 3,000 icons
 
  Sorry if I have misunderstood.

 no need to be sorry, we are all learning here!


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 Registered Ubuntu User #12459

 Thanks Paul for the help. I sort of wanted to look
 inside of an exe,
 as I am rather curious about such things. I thought
 maybe I could
 find some nice icons while in there.

 Thanks for the link to the site as well. It should
 more than satisfy
 may iconic (?) needs.

 I can't seem to find very much info about mscompress,
 and what
 it does or how to use it. That seems strange to me.
 I have searched quite a bit, but remain in the dark
 more or less
 about it.
 The link you provided to the mscompress homepage is
 requiring
 login. I tried as guest, but it was no go.
 I found this listed as homepage of mscompress from
 freshmeat.net:

 http://martin.hinner.info/mscompress/

 But, there is little info of help there either.
 Mysterious.

 Thanks again.
 Regards.

 -- Angus

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 ###Reg. Linux User #278931###
Angus
To find out how the mscompress works google LZ77 or merely Lempel-Ziv
compression (this is the Lempel-Ziv compression algorithm-it has been used
in multiple compression schemes since it is in the public domain)
Larry

   
 
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Re: Prism54 Wlan (lenny)

2008-01-26 Thread Jochen Schulz
Klaus Kreuzpaintner:
 
 i installed Debian Sid 2 days and i cann't not get my wireless (Netgear 
 WG 511) card to work. If I plug it in the PCMCIA slot the prism54 module 
 gets loaded properly but it seems that the firmware is not uploaded to 
 the card. I've put it in all possible direcotries (for example /lib/
 firmware/ /usr/lib/firmware/hotplug etc. etc),

I think it should be /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware/.

 so it should be found by 
 the module. Also the output of 'dmesg' doesn't contain any error message.

Don't tell, just show. :)


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Re: mscompress

2008-01-26 Thread Angus Auld

--- Nyizsnyik Ferenc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 18:17:23 -0800
 David Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On 1/25/08, Angus Auld [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
   Way above my head, but interesting just the
 same. I
   just
   sort of wanted to know how to use mscompress to
   de-compress
  
  Angus:
  
  I think you'll find that ordinary unzip or 7zip
 can do that for you.
  There basically are two kinds of compressed
 executables
  
  1) the executable archive, basically a zip file
 with a little bit of
  program code that basically says to unzip me.
 These files are far
  more common, and handle very well on Linux.
  
  2) the expand type compressed exes. These are
 distinct because they
  all have a trailing _ as part of their name, and
 only seems to be
  common on Windows installation media, to save
 space on the disks. I
  don't think there is a tool that will handle this
 natively on Linux.
  
 
 Actually mscompress and msexpand were made to handle
 this type of files.
 
 -- 
 Szia:
   Nyizsa.

That is what the sparse description, and the even
sparser documentation would indicate, at least to me
it did. :)

I have tried unzip, and it will not handle exe's. I
have not tried 
7zip, since I do not have that prog installed, but
documentation 
indicates that it will not either.

I will not trouble the list any further on this issue.


Thanks to all who responded.
Best regards.

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Re: Cable Modem setup

2008-01-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, Jan 26, 2008 at 07:03:52AM -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

 Most, if not all, cable modems are easily configured for use with Linux

 So please check me if what I think is right:

 1. The box has an (presently unused) ethernet port and lspci shows it:
 00:12.0 Ethernet controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6102 [Rhine-II] (rev 
 78)

good.


 2. dhcp client is installed:
 ii  dhcp3-client 3.0.6-1DHCP client
 ii  dhcp3-common 3.0.6-1common 
 files used by all the dhcp3* packages

good


 3. All I have to do is change /etc/networking/interfaces from:
...

 to:
 auto lo
 iface lo inet loopback
 auto eth0
 iface eth0 inet dhcp
 post-up iptables-restore  /etc/iptables.up.rules

 and issue: ifup

yup


 4. I have the DVD's for Etch. I could also do a new install for Etch (I now 
 have all Sid) and that should automatically find the cable modem in the 
 new installation.

no need to do the reinstall. no need to find the cable modem. It is
(most likely) just like any router/hub/switch with a dhcp
server. simply plug in, ifup and you should be good to go. 

A


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Re: Strange boot message

2008-01-26 Thread Frank McCormick
On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 11:36:26 +0100
Florian Kulzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Fri, Jan 25, 2008 at 14:31:53 -0800, Bob McGowan wrote:
  Frank McCormick wrote:
  Can anyone tell  me what this message in syslog is all about ???
 
 [...]
 
  intel_rng:
Firmware space is locked read-only.  If you can't or don't want
  to disable this in firmware setup, and if you are certain that your
  system has a functional RNG, try using the 'no_fwh_detect' option.
/snip/
 
  The only issue now is how to do it.  I've never done anything with  
  options on autoloaded modules, so I have no suggestions, perhaps
  others can help here.
 
 
 So I would try to create a new configuration file in /etc/modprobe.d/;
 call it, for example, local-intel-rng. The name does not matter as
 long as you avoid special characters (hyphen and underscore are OK),




  That did it. Below is the relevant snip of the syslog.

Jan 26 09:08:23 debian kernel: parport0: PC-style at 0x378, irq 7
[PCSPP,TRISTATE] 
Jan 26 09:08:23 debian kernel: Intel 82802 RNG detected
Jan 26 09:08:23 debian kernel: intel8x0_measure_ac97_clock: measured
52011 usecs 
Jan 26 09:08:23 debian kernel: intel8x0: clocking to 48000
Jan 26 09:08:23 debian kernel: hda: selected mode 0x42

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Re: Cable Modem setup

2008-01-26 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Andrew Sackville-West wrote:

On Sat, Jan 26, 2008 at 07:03:52AM -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:


Most, if not all, cable modems are easily configured for use with Linux

So please check me if what I think is right:

1. The box has an (presently unused) ethernet port and lspci shows it:
00:12.0 Ethernet controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6102 [Rhine-II] (rev 
78)


good.


2. dhcp client is installed:
ii  dhcp3-client 3.0.6-1DHCP client
ii  dhcp3-common 3.0.6-1common 
files used by all the dhcp3* packages


good


3. All I have to do is change /etc/networking/interfaces from:

...

to:
auto lo
iface lo inet loopback
auto eth0
iface eth0 inet dhcp
post-up iptables-restore  /etc/iptables.up.rules

and issue: ifup


yup

4. I have the DVD's for Etch. I could also do a new install for Etch (I now 
have all Sid) and that should automatically find the cable modem in the 
new installation.


no need to do the reinstall. no need to find the cable modem. It is
(most likely) just like any router/hub/switch with a dhcp
server. simply plug in, ifup and you should be good to go. 



Thanks Andrew.
If and when the move occurs I'll report back.

Hugo












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Re: Memory Stick is sg1?

2008-01-26 Thread Thomas H. George
On Fri, Jan 25, 2008 at 03:15:47PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
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 On 01/25/08 15:05, Thomas H. George wrote:
  I have a usb memory stick which I successfully used for a netinst
  several months ago.  When I connected it today it was recognized as sg1
  but it was not recognized as a block device when I tried to mount it.
  Returning to the Debian-Installer directions I found I can mount it
  with  the command mount /dev/sda /mnt but only as root.  At the moment I
  just want to store some files and there is plenty of space free so I
  don't really have a problem.  I'm just puzzled as I have an entry in
  /etc/fstab reading /dev/sda1 /usbkeyvfat   rw,user,noauto   0   0
  and I believe in the past the memory stick was recognized as sda1 and I
  could mount it as an ordinary user.  If using it for netinst has
  modified it how can I restore the original configuration?
 
 To install Debian onto the machine that now recognizes it as sg1?
 
No, just to use it to store data.  As it is I can only mount it as root
and to just store data I would prefer to mount it as a normal user.
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Re: exim question

2008-01-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, Jan 26, 2008 at 10:25:35AM +0100, Daniel Haude wrote:
 Hello,
 
 Due a to an error in my /etc/exim4/passwd.client, quite a bit of mail was
 refused by the remote SMTP relay host. I now fixed it but can't find the
 messages any more. Does exim dump them? I still have them in my sent-mail
 folder and can bounce them, but I thought there maybe was some queue
 seomwhere.

mailq will tell you what's in the queue. And look in
/var/log/exim4/mainlog to see what might have happened to mail that
isn't in the queue. If your relay host refused the mail, it should
either be in the queue or bounced back to the sender. If it's bounced,
then exim is done with it and won't have it anymore.

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Re: mscompress

2008-01-26 Thread Nyizsnyik Ferenc
On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 05:59:36 -0800 (PST)
Angus Auld [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 --- Nyizsnyik Ferenc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 18:17:23 -0800
  David Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   On 1/25/08, Angus Auld [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
Way above my head, but interesting just the
  same. I
just
sort of wanted to know how to use mscompress to
de-compress
   
   Angus:
   
   I think you'll find that ordinary unzip or 7zip
  can do that for you.
   There basically are two kinds of compressed
  executables
   
   1) the executable archive, basically a zip file
  with a little bit of
   program code that basically says to unzip me.
  These files are far
   more common, and handle very well on Linux.
   
   2) the expand type compressed exes. These are
  distinct because they
   all have a trailing _ as part of their name, and
  only seems to be
   common on Windows installation media, to save
  space on the disks. I
   don't think there is a tool that will handle this
  natively on Linux.
   
  
  Actually mscompress and msexpand were made to handle
  this type of files.
  
  -- 
  Szia:
  Nyizsa.
 
 That is what the sparse description, and the even
 sparser documentation would indicate, at least to me
 it did. :)
 
 I have tried unzip, and it will not handle exe's. I
 have not tried 
 7zip, since I do not have that prog installed, but
 documentation 
 indicates that it will not either.
 
 I will not trouble the list any further on this issue.
 
 
 Thanks to all who responded.
 Best regards.
 
 -- Angus
 

One more thing, just to clarify things:
msexpand is not for zipped exe files, it is for compressed files on the
windows install media, like, for example, notepad.ex_ and winipsec.dl_.
They were compressed by (ms)compress and will be expanded as notepad.exe
and winipsec.dll. 

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Re: Memory Stick is sg1?

2008-01-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Jan 25, 2008 at 04:05:38PM -0500, Thomas H. George wrote:
 I have a usb memory stick which I successfully used for a netinst several 
 months ago.  When I connected it today it was recognized as sg1 but it was 
 not recognized as a block device when I tried to mount it.

well, if the kernel/udev recignized it as /dev/sg1 then your command
below won't work because that command tries to mount /dev/sda. 

 Returning to the Debian-Installer directions I found I can mount it with  
 the command mount /dev/sda /mnt but only as root.  At the moment I just 


that won't work with a /dev/sdg*

try

mount /dev/sdg1 /mnt

 want to store some files and there is plenty of space free so I don't 
 really have a problem.  I'm just puzzled as I have an entry in /etc/fstab 
 /dev/sda1 /usbkeyvfat   rw,user,noauto   0   0 

that also tries to mount /dev/sda1. With your memory stick id'ed as
/dev/sdg1, it won't work. 

 and I believe in 
 the past the memory stick was recognized as sda1 and I could mount it as an 
 ordinary user.

the 'user' option in the fstab line above allows the user to mount the
device. But again, it needs to specify the right device...


 If using it for netinst has modified it how can I restore 
 the original configuration?

all the netinst has done is but some files on it, essentially. That
doesn't affect how the stick is recognized by the kernel or
udev. SOmething else is causing the change to sdg. If you want to
revert the stick to it's original, pre-netinst condition, probably you
need to just reformat the filesystem. 

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Re: Memory Stick is sg1?

2008-01-26 Thread Ron Johnson
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On 01/26/08 08:43, Thomas H. George wrote:
 On Fri, Jan 25, 2008 at 03:15:47PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
 On 01/25/08 15:05, Thomas H. George wrote:
 I have a usb memory stick which I successfully used for a netinst
 several months ago.  When I connected it today it was recognized as sg1
 but it was not recognized as a block device when I tried to mount it.
 Returning to the Debian-Installer directions I found I can mount it
 with  the command mount /dev/sda /mnt but only as root.  At the moment I
 just want to store some files and there is plenty of space free so I
 don't really have a problem.  I'm just puzzled as I have an entry in
 /etc/fstab reading /dev/sda1 /usbkeyvfat   rw,user,noauto   0   0
 and I believe in the past the memory stick was recognized as sda1 and I
 could mount it as an ordinary user.  If using it for netinst has
 modified it how can I restore the original configuration?

 To install Debian onto the machine that now recognizes it as sg1?
 
 No, just to use it to store data.  As it is I can only mount it as root
 and to just store data I would prefer to mount it as a normal user.


What I mean is:
The first sentence of your original mail indicates that *this*
exact stick was used to install Debian on *this* exact machine.

Is that what you meant to say?

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Re: Web browser cannot see due to proxy server?

2008-01-26 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Thu, Jan 24, 2008 at 16:26:32 -0800, wathavy wathavy wrote:
 Hi, 
 I have Debian set up and run. I can ping to any address and get
 replies. And I also set up proxy server name and port number exactly
 same as Windows which I am writing this mail, now. But any browser
 reject saying 'proxy server may be not set right'. I asked the server
 administrator if Linux is blocked he says he does not block by seeing
 OS types, just MAC and IP only.

Did you check that you have the same IP address with Linux? (This should
be OK, assuming that your network uses MAC-based DHCP assignments, but
check it just to be sure.)

Can you ping the proxy server?

 When Windows running it can see browser, but I cannot figure out how I
 can use bowser with Linux(Debian).

I would try this in a terminal:

export http_proxy=http://your.proxy.server:PORT

(replace your.proxy.server and PORT with the correct data for your
 network)

Then do this:

wget -v --delete-after http://slashdot.org

to check if you can download the frontpage of slashdot via the proxy. If
you get errors or a slow download speed then post the (error) messages
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Re: problemas

2008-01-26 Thread Håkon Alstadheim

Carlos Enrique Carleos Artime wrote:

Hello!

I have a home network with three computers (A, B and C).

Computer A has a direct connection to internet by a cable-modem.
It has interfaces:
- eth0 to internet, uses DHCP
- eth1 to computer B, static IP-address: 192.168.0.2
Its operating system is Debian etch, with default 
IPMASQ configuration.  I added:

 route add -net 192.168.2.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 gw 192.168.0.1 eth1
to /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh (first) and to /etc/init.d/ipmasq (then)

Computer B is connected to both A and C.
Its interfaces:
- rl0 to computer A, IP 192.168.0.1
- ural0 to computer B, IP 192.168.2.1
It runs FreeBSD 6.3, confirgured while install to be gateway.

Computer C is connected to B.  Interface:
- ural0 to computer B, IP 192.168.2.2
It has FreeBSD 6.3 and OpenBSD 4.0.

  

(snip)

One more information item to check: what range of addresses is assigned 
on eth0? Better make sure that it is not in 192.168.0.0/16 (i.e. not in 
a subnet of that /16).




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Re: Installation of hard drive

2008-01-26 Thread Andres Migliazzo
But after change a error message permission denied appear in Konqueror
window.

Well... check the permissions and ownership of the /mnt/hdc1 folder.

Then try to mount the partition using the command line:
$ mount -t ext3 /dev/hdc1 /mnt/hdc1 -o rw
Do it as your user, and then try with root user.

Did you try to mount it on a different directory...like floppy?
$ mount -t ext3 -o rw /dev/hdc1 /media/floppy

Just to check if is a permissions issue.

If does not works... show us the output of the command:
#sfdisk -ls /dev/hdc

Bye

On Jan 26, 2008 10:59 AM, Pantor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Pantor wrote:
  Andres Migliazzo wrote:
  Hi,
  Please, login as root and run the comand mount, then show us the
  standar output AND the /etc/fstab file. Tell us which is the file
  systems that you have used on new disk partitions (VFAT, EXT2/3, NTFS,
  UFS, REISERFS, etc).
 
  Regards
 
  On Jan 25, 2008 4:13 PM, Pantor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  KS wrote:
Pantor wrote:
KS wrote:
Pantor wrote:
Lads,
   
would you be able to advice please, how to install a second
  hard drive
which have preinstalled Windows. PC booting Windows after
 hard
  drive has
been plugged in. Windows should be cleared, but how thee
  partition
works?
   
Thank you,
   
Andrius
I would just connect the hard disk and boot. My new/old hard
  disks have
been detected without a hitch when booting. Then comes the
  use of a
partitioning tool like cfdisk, fdisk, etc. and after that you
  can use
mkfs to create the file system. If you like using the GUI
 more,
  install
gparted or qtparted and use that to partition and format the
  hard disk.
   
HTH
If to boot then windows will boot. Gparted
shows:
  89-125-103-244:/home/andrius# gparted
==
libparted : 1.7.1
automounting disabled
==
Unable to open /dev/hda read-write (Read-only file system).
   /dev/hda
has been opened read-only.
Unable to open /dev/hda - unrecognised disk label.
Andrius
   
   
Where do you have Debian installed? /dev/hdb? Where did you
  install
Grub? You need to give more details about your setup.
   
   
 
  Debian installed on sda,
  New disk hdc installed and partitioned, but still not visible in
  media:/
 
 
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   It seems tha a mistake was made in last line.
  # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
  #
  # file system mount point   type  options   dump  pass
  proc/proc   procdefaults0   0
  /dev/sda1   /   ext3defaults,errors=remount-ro
  0   1
  /dev/sda5   noneswapsw  0   0
  /dev/hda/media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0   0
  /dev/fd0/media/floppy0  autorw,user,noauto  0   0
  /dev/hdc1 /mnt/hdc1 ext3 default 2 1
 
  Instead default should be defaults. But after change a error message
  permission denied appear in Konqueror window.
 
 
 And mount still does not work
 89-125-103-244:/home/andrius# mount /dev/hdc1
 mount: mount point /mnt/hdc1 does not exist



Re: Memory Stick is sg1?

2008-01-26 Thread Jochen Schulz
Thomas H. George:
 
 No, just to use it to store data.  As it is I can only mount it as root
 and to just store data I would prefer to mount it as a normal user.

I still don't understand your problem, but what a user is able to mount
is determined by the contents of /etc/fstab.

If you want ordinary users to be able to mount a specific filesystem,
just add the user option:

$ grep user /etc/fstab
/dev/iriver1 /media/iriver   vfat noauto,user,noatime0 0
/dev/stick1  /media/stickvfat noauto,user,noatime,async,utf8=true0 0
/dev/sda1/media/usbdisk  auto noauto,user,noatime,async  0 0
/dev/hdc /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto,ro  0 0

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Re: Installation of hard drive

2008-01-26 Thread Pantor

Andres Migliazzo wrote:
But after change a error message permission denied appear in 
Konqueror window.


Well... check the permissions and ownership of the /mnt/hdc1 folder.

Then try to mount the partition using the command line:
$ mount -t ext3 /dev/hdc1 /mnt/hdc1 -o rw
Do it as your user, and then try with root user.

Did you try to mount it on a different directory...like floppy?
$ mount -t ext3 -o rw /dev/hdc1 /media/floppy

Just to check if is a permissions issue.

If does not works... show us the output of the command:
#sfdisk -ls /dev/hdc

Bye

On Jan 26, 2008 10:59 AM, Pantor [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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Pantor wrote:
  Andres Migliazzo wrote:
  Hi,
  Please, login as root and run the comand mount, then show us the
  standar output AND the /etc/fstab file. Tell us which is the file
  systems that you have used on new disk partitions (VFAT, EXT2/3,
NTFS,
  UFS, REISERFS, etc).
 
  Regards
 
  On Jan 25, 2008 4:13 PM, Pantor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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  KS wrote:
Pantor wrote:
KS wrote:
Pantor wrote:
Lads,
   
would you be able to advice please, how to install a
second
  hard drive
which have preinstalled Windows. PC booting Windows
after hard
  drive has
been plugged in. Windows should be cleared, but how thee
  partition
works?
   
Thank you,
   
Andrius
I would just connect the hard disk and boot. My new/old
hard
  disks have
been detected without a hitch when booting. Then comes the
  use of a
partitioning tool like cfdisk, fdisk, etc. and after
that you
  can use
mkfs to create the file system. If you like using the
GUI more,
  install
gparted or qtparted and use that to partition and
format the
  hard disk.
   
HTH
If to boot then windows will boot. Gparted
shows:
  89-125-103-244:/home/andrius# gparted
==
libparted : 1.7.1
automounting disabled
==
Unable to open /dev/hda read-write (Read-only file system).
   /dev/hda
has been opened read-only.
Unable to open /dev/hda - unrecognised disk label.
Andrius
   
   
Where do you have Debian installed? /dev/hdb? Where did you
  install
Grub? You need to give more details about your setup.
   
   
 
  Debian installed on sda,
  New disk hdc installed and partitioned, but still not visible in
  media:/
 
 
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   It seems tha a mistake was made in last line.
  # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
  #
  # file system mount point   type  options   dump
 pass
  proc/proc   procdefaults0   0
  /dev/sda1   /   ext3defaults,errors=remount-ro
  0   1
  /dev/sda5   noneswapsw  0   0
  /dev/hda/media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0   0
  /dev/fd0/media/floppy0  autorw,user,noauto  0   0
  /dev/hdc1 /mnt/hdc1 ext3 default 2 1
 
  Instead default should be defaults. But after change a error
message
  permission denied appear in Konqueror window.
 
 
And mount still does not work
89-125-103-244:/home/andrius# mount /dev/hdc1
mount: mount point /mnt/hdc1 does not exist


sfdisk -ls /dev/hdc


Well, not looks as fine. Here is sfdisk

89-125-103-244:/home/andrius# sfdisk -ls /dev/hdc
19938240

Disk /dev/hdc: 39560 cylinders, 16 heads, 63 sectors/track
Warning: The partition table looks like it was made
  for C/H/S=*/255/63 (instead of 39560/16/63).
For this listing I'll assume that geometry.
Units = cylinders of 8225280 bytes, blocks of 1024 bytes, counting from 0

   Device Boot Start End   #cyls#blocks   Id  System
/dev/hdc1  0+   24812482-  19936633+  83  Linux
/dev/hdc2  0   -   0  00  Empty
/dev/hdc3  0   -   0  00  Empty
/dev/hdc4  0   -   0  00  Empty
89-125-103-244:/home/andrius#


There is only one problem now about new disc: impossible to write or 

Re: DSL modems over USB?

2008-01-26 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Sat, Jan 26, 2008 at 03:12:22PM +0900, Paul Wise wrote:
 
 On Fri, 2008-01-25 at 22:29 +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote:
  
  As I see web pages, Speedstream 4200 supports ethernet too.  Why not
  connect it by ethernet unless you have some feature limitted version.
 
 I wanted to connect 2 computers to it - one via USB and one via DHCP.
 After finding the drivers for Vista I was able to discover that it only
 allows one computer at a time to be connected - USB or Ethernet, but not
 both. Since then I've noticed that it reboots at regular intervals so I
 switched to an older non-ADSL2 modem.

Why not place hub or switch between modem and other computers.  Then you
can communicate between 2 computers.  If for any reason, ethernet side
can have one host address but if you have 2 ethernet card on LInux
server, then run NAT server on Linux server connected to the ADSL modem so
windows can hide behind Linux server.  (Of course, you can do the same
with windows but why...)


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[OT] Using aliases or functions in bash script

2008-01-26 Thread T o n g
On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 20:47:15 -0900, Ken Irving wrote:

 I'm wondering if you have read my OP or not. Read it again pls.
 
 source ~/.bashrc

Guess that I am having bad lucks now, having two people replied without
even reading my question, and the two replies are the only replies that I
get... 

Here is the full OP -- let me try for the last time:

Hi, 

An advanced bash alias expansion question -- 
How can I use my aliases or functions in my bash script?

I have the following alias and function defined in my ~/.bashrc:

  $ alias rd
  alias rd='rmdir'

  $ type dt
  dt is a function
  dt () 
  { 
  pushd +$1
  }

How can I use them in my script?

Looking through the man pages, I think the following content is related 
to my question:

   Aliases  are not expanded when the shell is not interactive, unless the
   expand_aliases shell option is set using shopt.

   [-+]O [shopt_option]
 shopt_option  is  one  of  the  shell options accepted by the
 shopt  builtin  (see  SHELL  BUILTIN  COMMANDS  below).If
 shopt_option is present, -O sets the value of that option; +O
 unsets it.  If shopt_option is not supplied,  the  names  and
 values  of the shell options accepted by shopt are printed on
 the standard output.  If the invocation  option  is  +O,  the
 output  is displayed in a format that may be reused as input.

  expand_aliases
  If set, aliases are expanded as  described  above  under
  ALIASES.  This option is enabled by default for interac-
  tive shells.

And this is what I've tried: 

  $ bash -c 'shopt -s expand_aliases; alias rd'
  bash: line 0: alias: rd: not found

  $ bash -O expand_aliases -c 'rd /tmp/ttt; alias rd; dt bin; type dt'
  bash: rd: command not found
  bash: line 0: alias: rd: not found
  bash: dt: command not found
  bash: line 0: type: dt: not found

Looking for the answer myself, I found a similar symptom has been reported
as bug 148505: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=148505
And it is reported as being fixed. 

Am I hitting a new bug or I'm doing something wrong? Please comment,
otherwise I'm going to file a bug report.

Thanks

PS. I even tried the following but it didn't work either:

  $ bash -O expand_aliases -c '. ~/.bashrc; (rd /tmp/ttt; alias rd; dt bin; 
type dt)'


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Re: Nice GUI/CLI Password Manager for Linux

2008-01-26 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi,

Just to follow up:

On Fri, Jan 25, 2008 at 01:25:15PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote:
 Amit Uttamchandani wrote:
  Recently moved from Mac to Debian Linux. I am looking for a nice and 
  powerful FLOSS password manager similar to Keychain on Mac OS X.
  
  I preferably would want a CLI tool...so I could remote login using SSH and 
  look at some passwords that I have forgotten.
 
 vim + gpg

 Dump the following in your .vimrc:
 
  Transparent editing of gpg encrypted files.
  By Wouter Hanegraaff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 augroup encrypted
 au!
...
 autocmd BufWritePre,FileWritePre*.gpg   '[,']!gpg 
 --default-key=80BF97AA --default-recipient-self -ae 2/dev/null

Of course you need to change --default-key=80BF97AA to yours, of course.
...
 augroup END

There is a package: vim-scripts.  With this package, you type less :-)

You only use vim-addons command to enable gnupg.

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Re: OT: How to detect a keypress, and in which language?

2008-01-26 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

Kent West wrote:

Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

Kent West wrote:
Too bad; I think a lot of the hams would have enjoyed writing a 
simple little program to turn their PCs into a Morse keyer.




I am no radio hammmer (?) no morse code since I was a boyscout 60 
years ago. But I would think that one would rather use let's say the 
space bar as a key for either dit's or dah's. Or alternatively just 
type text and the program would translate in dit's and dah's. More 
interesting would be to use the key and see if the program can read 
what is being keyed.




The space bar as a keyer would be fine as a straight-key (just the 
single up-down paddle you see in the movies about the Old West), but I 
was thinking more along the lines of emulating a paddle (two side-ways 
keys mounted back-to-back, so that your thumb produces dits and  your 
fore/middle finger produces dahs as you barely move your hand 
left-right-left). But it would be trivial to modify the program from 
one mode to the other. The hard part, as we've all discovered, is 
reading the keys while bypassing the buffer and controlling the speaker.


That would indeed be interesting for the program to recognize and 
display what is being keyed; that would be a good training aid for 
producing clean code; if the computer can't read your hand, the ham on 
the other side of the world will have trouble reading it also.




Aha! Good explanation. Forgive the ignorance. I did not know about the 
'paddles'.


Let me give the single up-down paddle a try. It appears that amidst all 
the uncertainties here one cannot depend on a wait interval *always* 
to be that long to one's ears. This in relation to both the sound 
duration and the wait between sounds.




Guess what? kbhit() returns a non-zero value at a variable rate: between 
65 and 300 ms. So you cannot distinguish between rapis key strokes and 
holding a key down.


Hugo




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Re: Using aliases or functions in bash script

2008-01-26 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Thu, Jan 24, 2008 at 03:55:51AM +, T o n g wrote:

 I'm wondering if you have read my OP or not. Read it again pls.

Yes I have. Use functions. Don't use aliases.

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Re: Nice GUI/CLI Password Manager for Linux

2008-01-26 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Fri, Jan 25, 2008 at 10:26:21PM +0100, Andrew Henry wrote:
 Just a thought...
 
 can you stop a password from being displayed in the terminal if using
 Vim--copy it to the buffer directly?  I use a GUI tool called Keepass
 and it allows me to copy the password to the clipboard without being
 displayed on screen, so that nobody can look over my shoulder.
 

KDE users: that is a great way to have your passwords recorded by
klipper.

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Re: OT: How to detect a keypress, and in which language?

2008-01-26 Thread Kent West

Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

Kent West wrote:
The space bar as a keyer would be fine as a straight-key (just the 
single up-down paddle you see in the movies about the Old West), but 
I was thinking more along the lines of emulating a paddle (two 
side-ways keys mounted back-to-back, so that your thumb produces 
dits and  your fore/middle finger produces dahs as you barely move 
your hand left-right-left). But it would be trivial to modify the 
program from one mode to the other. The hard part, as we've all 
discovered, is reading the keys while bypassing the buffer and 
controlling the speaker.




Guess what? kbhit() returns a non-zero value at a variable rate: 
between 65 and 300 ms. So you cannot distinguish between rapis key 
strokes and holding a key down.



Mmm; I wonder if it could be done with the mouse buttons instead of the 
keyboard, or if the same problem exists there 


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Accessing a TV adapter via my network

2008-01-26 Thread Barry Samuels
I would like to get a Hauppauge WinTV Nova T 500 adapter which I 
understand works with Linux.

That's the easy part.

It would be very inconvenient to install it in my desktop because it 
would require a connection to a TV aerial socket and I don't have one 
near my desktop.

My idea would be to assemble another computer using some spare parts 
that I have together with some parts that I would have to re-aquire. I 
say 're-aquire' because I would have had all the necessary parts if I 
hadn't given away a lot of them (CPUs, hard drives, RAM) to a local 
computer recycling charity a few months ago. Why is it that one does 
not have a use for these parts until they've gone?

I'm assuming that if I assemble the said computer with the TV 
adapter in it (putting it near a TV aerial socket) and can connect 
wirelessly to my desktop then I could access the TV adapter from my 
desktop using something like MythTV. Would such a thing be possible?

I would be looking at a minimal install of Linux on the new box with 
all the processing done on my desktop.

This would assume that I could connect the two boxes using nothing more 
than a wireless adapter in each i.e. no router. My desktop has an on-
board wireless adapter and I have two spare PCI adapters one of which I 
could use in the new box. Is it possible to get two wireless adapters 
to communicate in this way? Would that be fast enough to cope with the 
data from the TV adapter?

What sort of specification for the new machine would be required? I 
have a Gigabyte GA-7ZXE mainboard which takes a Socket A Athlon (which 
I would have to aquire) and it takes PC-133 SDRam (which I would also 
have to aquire). What's the minimum RAM I would need?

I would also need to aquire an IDE hard drive. What's the minimum size 
I could get away with for an appropriate Debian system? TV recording 
will be done on my main desktop via the network.

I wouldn't normally want to use a screen or keyboard after the machine 
has been setup - would that cause problems when booting?

What else haven't I thought of?

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Re: nvidia driver problem [Was: new user question: debian on a Thinkpad T61]

2008-01-26 Thread David Baron
On Friday 25 January 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Actually, nv was what the installer picked by default and that didn't
 work for me (I was surprised by that, but maybe stable uses an older
 version of nv or something).  Anyways, vesa worked, and it still does
 now, so that's what I'm using.  It's nvidia that doesn't work.

Question might be: What card do you have (or on-MB equivalent) in the 
Thinkpad? Nvidia's newer drivers (and Debian Sid equivalents) do NOT support 
older hardware. For example, I have a GEForce2 mx400 chipset card and must 
use the version 96.43.01 driver.

I had mixed results in the past using the Debian versions. Once they did not 
work at all, once I got them working with half!! the frame rate in 
pengineracer or such. Installing correct versions from Nvidia (their site has 
dialogs to find which one) worked first time every time.

(Caveat: unless you use arguments to their installer to set alternate folders, 
their libglx.so gets put in the same place as xorg's  so when you upgrade 
xorg, well ... can always move xorg's out of the way and replace with the 
symlink to the Nvidia one each time this happens.)




Re: Using aliases or functions in bash script

2008-01-26 Thread Daniel Dickinson
On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 17:12:56 +
Tzafrir Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thu, Jan 24, 2008 at 03:55:51AM +, T o n g wrote:
 
  I'm wondering if you have read my OP or not. Read it again pls.
 
 Yes I have. Use functions. Don't use aliases.
 

On command-line:

function dt () {
push +$1
}

In test.sh

#!/bin/bash

pwd
$(dt $(pwd))
cd /tmp
popd
pwd

./test.sh
Line 2 errors out.  I imagine the same thing happens with his attempt
to use his bashrc-defined functions in a script without defining them
again in the script.

IIUC he wants to know how to use already defined functions/aliases in a
shell script.

A possible way around would be to define the functions in .bashrc and
then source .bashrc, but I am curious myself as to how one would
achieve the other (using existing functions rather then defining them
again in a new script).

Regards,

Daniel

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ffmpeg and mpeg2video codec

2008-01-26 Thread Daniel Dickinson
Anyone know what happened to the mpeg2video video codec in the lenny
version of ffmpeg?  It seems to have been removed.  Is it a patent
issue, and if so will it eventually also effect players such as vlc,
mplayer and xine?

Regards,

Daniel

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Re: Using aliases or functions in bash script

2008-01-26 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Sat, Jan 26, 2008 at 12:44:42PM -0500, Daniel Dickinson wrote:
 On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 17:12:56 +
 Tzafrir Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Thu, Jan 24, 2008 at 03:55:51AM +, T o n g wrote:
  
   I'm wondering if you have read my OP or not. Read it again pls.
  
  Yes I have. Use functions. Don't use aliases.
  
 
 On command-line:
 
 function dt () {
   push +$1

And this should do? Is this supposed to be pushd? Why the '+'?
pushd +1? 

 }
 
 In test.sh
 
 #!/bin/bash
 
 pwd
 $(dt $(pwd))
 cd /tmp
 popd
 pwd
 
 ./test.sh
 Line 2 errors out.  

And those error are?

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Re: OT: How to detect a keypress, and in which language?

2008-01-26 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sat, Jan 26, 2008 at 11:22:05AM -0600, Kent West wrote:
 
 Mmm; I wonder if it could be done with the mouse buttons instead of the 
 keyboard, or if the same problem exists there 

What's the problem using two status lines on a serial port?  AFAIK,
those are totally unbuffered and the python serial module should give
you portable access.

Hams shouldn't have any trouble wiring their paddles to an RS-232.

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Re: How to set up simple cgi web

2008-01-26 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Sat, Jan 26, 2008 at 09:33:00PM +1100, hce wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I thought if I create /www or /etc/www in my debian PC, and add an
 index.htm and cgi file to cgi-bin directory, I should be able to
 access http://my_ip_address/index.html. But, it did not work. how can
 I make that work?

By default the web root in Debian is /var/www and the CGI root is
/usr/lib/cgi-bin .

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Re: Memory Stick is sg1?

2008-01-26 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sat, Jan 26, 2008 at 06:51:47AM -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
 
 all the netinst has done is but some files on it, essentially. That
 doesn't affect how the stick is recognized by the kernel or
 udev. SOmething else is causing the change to sdg. If you want to
 revert the stick to it's original, pre-netinst condition, probably you
 need to just reformat the filesystem. 

And while you're at it, add a label to the filesystem, then mount with
LABEL= instead of /dev/.  

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Re: How to set up simple cgi web

2008-01-26 Thread Chris Henry
On Jan 26, 2008 6:33 PM, hce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I thought if I create /www or /etc/www in my debian PC, and add an
 index.htm and cgi file to cgi-bin directory, I should be able to
 access http://my_ip_address/index.html. But, it did not work. how can
 I make that work?


Hmm. Shall start from the simplest. Did you install apache web server?
Or is this a just installed Debian (and you have no idea what was
installed). If you didn't, install it first.

$ su
# apt-get install apache2

After that you can follow the others' suggestions. (:

Good luck!
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Re: OT: How to detect a keypress, and in which language?

2008-01-26 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Douglas A. Tutty wrote:

On Sat, Jan 26, 2008 at 11:22:05AM -0600, Kent West wrote:
 
Mmm; I wonder if it could be done with the mouse buttons instead of the 
keyboard, or if the same problem exists there 


What's the problem using two status lines on a serial port?  AFAIK,
those are totally unbuffered and the python serial module should give
you portable access.

Hams shouldn't have any trouble wiring their paddles to an RS-232.



I found a package for serial access for ham use. But I have to go back 
and look for it.


Mouse buttons is a good idea. Let me look around.

Hugo


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Re: Using aliases or functions in bash script

2008-01-26 Thread Daniel Dickinson
On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 18:03:32 +
Tzafrir Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sat, Jan 26, 2008 at 12:44:42PM -0500, Daniel Dickinson wrote:
  On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 17:12:56 +
  Tzafrir Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   On Thu, Jan 24, 2008 at 03:55:51AM +, T o n g wrote:
   
I'm wondering if you have read my OP or not. Read it again pls.
   
   Yes I have. Use functions. Don't use aliases.
   
  
  On command-line:
  
  function dt () {
  push +$1
 
 And this should do? Is this supposed to be pushd? Why the '+'?
 pushd +1?

Erm, rather pushd +$1
I just copied the example function the original poster gave, since it
is his question.
 
  }
  
  In test.sh
  
  #!/bin/bash
  
  pwd
  $(dt $(pwd))
  cd /tmp
  popd
  pwd
  
  ./test.sh
  Line 2 errors out.  
 
 And those error are?
 
./test.sh: line 4: dt: command not found
./test.sh: line 6: popd: directory stack empty

However, the point isn't the particular script, that was just an quick
example I cooked up to demonstrate the original poster's problem.  A
function defined in the current shell is not available to a script
executed from that shell (perhaps it would with sh test.sh, I didn't
test that).

IOW I decided to see what his problem was rather than just shooting in
the dark.

Regards,

Daniel

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Re: Using aliases or functions in bash script

2008-01-26 Thread Wayne Topa
T o n g([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
 Hi, 
 
 A (adv) bash alias expansion question -- 
 How can I use my aliases or functions in my bash script?
 
 I have the following alias and function defined in my ~/.bashrc:
 
   $ alias rd
   alias rd='rmdir'
 
   $ type dt
   dt is a function
   dt () 
   { 
   pushd +$1
   }
 
 How can I use them in my script?

Sorry, I thought you and already worked theis out.  Here is an example
I threw together.  YMMV

** ---
#!/bin/sh

# Test calling a function in .bashrc

#  The function
#   make (create) an gzip archive
#   tarc() { tar czvf $1.tar.gz $1; }


# let this script know what the functions/aliases are
source .bashrc

#test tarc function
echo Name of file to gzip: 
read file

tarc $file


#  Test of an alias in .bashrc
#
# the alias
#  alias show=apt-cache show $1

# Test show alias
echo Search Debian for filename: 
read name

show $name
** ---

HTH

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Re: Exim question

2008-01-26 Thread Gregory Seidman
On Fri, Jan 25, 2008 at 07:48:22PM +0100, Dan H. wrote:
 Hello,
 
 When the fetchmail demon starts running, it often gets large amounts of mail
 in one bunch an tries to shove it into exim for local delivery. However,
 exim doesn't like that and logs:
 
 2008-01-25 19:30:43 1JITK7-ps-J9 no immediate delivery: more than 10
 messages received in one connection
 
 I then can kick loose the mail flood using exim -q as root. But how can I
 convince exim to automatically do the delivery? 

Actually, you want to throttle fetchmail. In your fetchmailrc, for each
poll line add batchlimit 10 in the options. I experienced the same problem
and that fix has solved it and has been working for years now.

 Thanks,
 --D.
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Exim question

2008-01-26 Thread Dan H.
Hello,

When the fetchmail demon starts running, it often gets large amounts of mail
in one bunch an tries to shove it into exim for local delivery. However,
exim doesn't like that and logs:

2008-01-25 19:30:43 1JITK7-ps-J9 no immediate delivery: more than 10
messages received in one connection

I then can kick loose the mail flood using exim -q as root. But how can I
convince exim to automatically do the delivery? 

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wine broken after Etch reinstall

2008-01-26 Thread tom arnall
I recently reinstalled Etch and found afterwards that 'wine' failed when 
trying to run ChessBaseLight (it was working before reinstall). In the course 
of trying to solve the problem, i removed 'wine' and tried to install the 
winehq.org version, which is a newer version than from debian repository. so 
far i have not been able to reinstall 'wine'. the gory details:


sudo wget 
http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/sources.list.d/etch.list -O 
/etc/apt/sources.list.d/winehq.list

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/sD/kloro/zips$ sudo apt-get update
Ign cdrom://[Debian GNU/Linux 4.0 r2 _Etch_ - Official i386 NETINST Binary-1 
20080103-00:44] etch Release.gpg
Ign cdrom://[Debian GNU/Linux 4.0 r2 _Etch_ - Official i386 NETINST Binary-1 
20080103-00:44] etch Release
Ign cdrom://[Debian GNU/Linux 4.0 r2 _Etch_ - Official i386 NETINST Binary-1 
20080103-00:44] etch/contrib Packages/DiffIndex
Ign cdrom://[Debian GNU/Linux 4.0 r2 _Etch_ - Official i386 NETINST Binary-1 
20080103-00:44] etch/main Packages/DiffIndex
Get:1 http://ftp.debian.org etch Release.gpg [378B]
Get:2 http://security.debian.org etch/updates Release.gpg [189B]
Hit http://ftp.debian.org etch Release
Hit http://security.debian.org etch/updates Release

.
.
.
.
Hit http://ftp.gva.es etch/main Packages
Hit http://ftp.gva.es etch/non-free Packages
Hit http://ftp.gva.es etch/contrib Packages
Fetched 1202B in 3s (371B/s)
Reading package lists... Done
W: GPG error: http://wine.budgetdedicated.com etch Release: The following 
signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: 
NO_PUBKEY 58403026387EE263
W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/sD/kloro/zips$



[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/sD/kloro/zips$ sudo apt-get install wine
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  wine
0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 5 not upgraded.
Need to get 0B/10.0MB of archives.
After unpacking 51.1MB of additional disk space will be used.
WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!
  wine
Install these packages without verification [y/N]? y
(Reading database ... 106863 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking wine (from .../wine_0.9.53~winehq0~debian~4.0-1_i386.deb) ...
dpkg: error 
processing /var/cache/apt/archives/wine_0.9.53~winehq0~debian~4.0-1_i386.deb 
(--unpack):
 trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/wine/msacm32.drv.so', which is also in package 
libwine
dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
Errors were encountered while processing:
 /var/cache/apt/archives/wine_0.9.53~winehq0~debian~4.0-1_i386.deb
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/sD/kloro/zips$


thanks very much in advance,

tom arnall
arcata





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Re: ffmpeg and mpeg2video codec

2008-01-26 Thread Gilles Mocellin
Le Saturday 26 January 2008 18:47:07 Daniel Dickinson, vous avez écrit :
 Anyone know what happened to the mpeg2video video codec in the lenny
 version of ffmpeg?  It seems to have been removed.  Is it a patent
 issue, and if so will it eventually also effect players such as vlc,
 mplayer and xine?

Unfortunately, it has been removed for patent risks, I've seen it in the 
changelog.

This forbid me to use the capacity of my ISP's ADSL box to view videos on my 
TV (freeplayer, using vlc).

I thought that debian-multimedia.org would have provide an alternative, but 
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Re: Exim question

2008-01-26 Thread Wayne Topa
Dan H.([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
 Hello,
 
 When the fetchmail demon starts running, it often gets large amounts of mail
 in one bunch an tries to shove it into exim for local delivery. However,
 exim doesn't like that and logs:
 
 2008-01-25 19:30:43 1JITK7-ps-J9 no immediate delivery: more than 10
 messages received in one connection
 
 I then can kick loose the mail flood using exim -q as root. But how can I
 convince exim to automatically do the delivery? 

Put this at the beginning of /etc/exim4/exim4.conf.template

smtp_accept_queue_per_connection = 150

The default is 10, as your logs show.  

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Re: OT: How to detect a keypress, and in which language?

2008-01-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, Jan 26, 2008 at 12:32:00PM -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
 Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
 On Sat, Jan 26, 2008 at 11:22:05AM -0600, Kent West wrote:
  
 Mmm; I wonder if it could be done with the mouse buttons instead of the 
 keyboard, or if the same problem exists there 

what does xev use? it detects keypress and release

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Re: [OT] Using aliases or functions in bash script

2008-01-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, Jan 26, 2008 at 04:48:18PM +, T o n g wrote:
 On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 20:47:15 -0900, Ken Irving wrote:
 
  I'm wondering if you have read my OP or not. Read it again pls.
  
  source ~/.bashrc
 
 Guess that I am having bad lucks now, having two people replied without
 even reading my question, and the two replies are the only replies that I
 get... 

how does this not answer your question? Ken suggests that you need to
source .bashrc. That makes sense to me. The aliases defined in .bashrc
are not in scope unless you source .bashrc. You probably still need to
mess around with the shoptions to expand the aliases, but you
certainly can't expand them if they aren't even in scope.

.02

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Re: Exim question

2008-01-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, Jan 26, 2008 at 02:58:11PM -0500, Gregory Seidman wrote:
 On Fri, Jan 25, 2008 at 07:48:22PM +0100, Dan H. wrote:
  Hello,
  
  When the fetchmail demon starts running, it often gets large amounts of mail
  in one bunch an tries to shove it into exim for local delivery. However,
  exim doesn't like that and logs:
  
  2008-01-25 19:30:43 1JITK7-ps-J9 no immediate delivery: more than 10
  messages received in one connection
  
  I then can kick loose the mail flood using exim -q as root. But how can I
  convince exim to automatically do the delivery? 
 
 Actually, you want to throttle fetchmail. In your fetchmailrc, for each
 poll line add batchlimit 10 in the options. I experienced the same problem
 and that fix has solved it and has been working for years now.

much nicer solution than allowing exim to be flooded like that. I
suspect leaving exim open to 150 mails per connection would be a
spammer's dream... (ignoring the fact that your exim is secured
properly ;)

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Re: Installation of hard drive - SOLVED

2008-01-26 Thread Pantor

Andres Migliazzo wrote:

man chmod, man chown.

Wll be also good for you if you learn how to use the number notation for 
chmod command.


Please add the mark [SOLVED]: to the subject when you finish.

Cheers!

On Jan 26, 2008 2:20 PM, Pantor [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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Andres Migliazzo wrote:
  But after change a error message permission denied appear in
  Konqueror window.
 
  Well... check the permissions and ownership of the /mnt/hdc1 folder.
 
  Then try to mount the partition using the command line:
  $ mount -t ext3 /dev/hdc1 /mnt/hdc1 -o rw
  Do it as your user, and then try with root user.
 
  Did you try to mount it on a different directory...like floppy?
  $ mount -t ext3 -o rw /dev/hdc1 /media/floppy
 
  Just to check if is a permissions issue.
 
  If does not works... show us the output of the command:
  #sfdisk -ls /dev/hdc
 
  Bye
 
  On Jan 26, 2008 10:59 AM, Pantor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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  Pantor wrote:
Andres Migliazzo wrote:
Hi,
Please, login as root and run the comand mount, then
show us the
standar output AND the /etc/fstab file. Tell us which is
the file
systems that you have used on new disk partitions (VFAT,
EXT2/3,
  NTFS,
UFS, REISERFS, etc).
   
Regards
   
On Jan 25, 2008 4:13 PM, Pantor
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KS wrote:
  Pantor wrote:
  KS wrote:
  Pantor wrote:
  Lads,
 
  would you be able to advice please, how to
install a
  second
hard drive
  which have preinstalled Windows. PC booting Windows
  after hard
drive has
  been plugged in. Windows should be cleared, but
how thee
partition
  works?
 
  Thank you,
 
  Andrius
  I would just connect the hard disk and boot. My
new/old
  hard
disks have
  been detected without a hitch when booting. Then
comes the
use of a
  partitioning tool like cfdisk, fdisk, etc. and after
  that you
can use
  mkfs to create the file system. If you like
using the
  GUI more,
install
  gparted or qtparted and use that to partition and
  format the
hard disk.
 
  HTH
  If to boot then windows will boot. Gparted
  shows:
89-125-103-244:/home/andrius# gparted
  ==
  libparted : 1.7.1
  automounting disabled
  ==
  Unable to open /dev/hda read-write (Read-only
file system).
 /dev/hda
  has been opened read-only.
  Unable to open /dev/hda - unrecognised disk label.
  Andrius
 
 
  Where do you have Debian installed? /dev/hdb?
Where did you
install
  Grub? You need to give more details about your setup.
 
 
   
Debian installed on sda,
New disk hdc installed and partitioned, but still not
visible in
media:/
   
   
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Re: [OT] Using aliases or functions in bash script

2008-01-26 Thread T o n g
On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 13:32:57 -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:

  I'm wondering if you have read my OP or not. Read it again pls.
  
  source ~/.bashrc
 
 Guess that I am having bad lucks now, having two people replied without
 even reading my question, and the two replies are the only replies that I
 get... 
 
 how does this not answer your question? Ken suggests that you need to
 source .bashrc. That makes sense to me. . .

Sigh Read it again pls, my OP, the last line.

3rd now. 

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Re: Using aliases or functions in bash script

2008-01-26 Thread T o n g
On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 12:44:42 -0500, Daniel Dickinson wrote:

 ./test.sh
 Line 2 errors out.  I imagine the same thing happens with his attempt
 to use his bashrc-defined functions in a script without defining them
 again in the script.
 
 IIUC he wants to know how to use already defined functions/aliases in a
 shell script.

Thanks a thousand Daniel!!! Finally! there is someone who really read my
post and try to understand it before jumping to conclusions.

 A possible way around would be to define the functions in .bashrc and
 then source .bashrc, but I am curious myself as to how one would
 achieve the other (using existing functions rather then defining them
 again in a new script).

Sorry if I was not clear in my OP, to all those people who were trying to
understand what I was saying. 

I have the following alias and function *already* defined in my ~/.bashrc:

  $ bash 

  $ alias rd
  alias rd='rmdir'

  $ type dt
  dt is a function
  dt () 
  { 
  pushd +$1
  }

  $ exit
  exit

I.e., there are there in the interactive shell. Now I want to use them in
my script:

  $ bash -O expand_aliases -c '. ~/.bashrc; (rd /tmp/ttt; alias rd; dt 3; type 
dt)'
  bash: line 0: alias: rd: not found
  bash: dt: command not found
  bash: line 0: type: dt: not found

I.e., even sourcing .bashrc won't work.


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Re: Using aliases or functions in bash script

2008-01-26 Thread T o n g
On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 17:12:56 +, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:

 I'm wondering if you have read my OP or not. Read it again pls.
 
 Yes I have. Use functions. Don't use aliases.

Despite its limitations, why one can't use aliases in scripts?
This sounds like Don't use #define in C to me (again, despite alias'
limitations please)

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2008-01-26 Thread i'll teach you to turn away.
is there a way to have gimp or whatever print a sample of each 
font on the system without manually writing them all out? tia.

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Re: [OT] Using aliases or functions in bash script

2008-01-26 Thread Daniel Dickinson
On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 21:40:12 + (UTC)
T o n g [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 13:32:57 -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
 
   I'm wondering if you have read my OP or not. Read it again pls.
   
   source ~/.bashrc
  
  Guess that I am having bad lucks now, having two people replied
  without even reading my question, and the two replies are the only
  replies that I get... 
  
  how does this not answer your question? Ken suggests that you need
  to source .bashrc. That makes sense to me. . .
 
 Sigh Read it again pls, my OP, the last line.
 
 3rd now. 

Ok, here's a question (as I missed the very first message): what are you
trying to accomplish? If you just want to use functions that are
in .bashrc in some other script then you can define the function
in .bashrc and then

source ~/.bashrc

so, .bashrc has:

...
function dt () {
pushd +$1
}
...

and other-script.sh has

#!/bin/bash

source ~/.bashrc

pwd
$(dt $(pwd))
cd /tmp
popd
pwd

That will execute function dt (which is a pushd) with the current
working directory, the function dt being the one which was defined
in .bashrc

Now, for the alias you could define a function that does whatever it is
want the alias to do, then create an alias that executes the function.

Then in other-script.sh you either recreate the alias (if for some
reason you really have to have an alias), or you can execute the
function as with dt.

If there is more to it than that you need to try doing your OP over
again, only stating your problem more clearly.

Regards,

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How to insure a US/Canada ip for programs ?

2008-01-26 Thread Jabka Atu
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Good day,...

While you can easily set your  favorite application to work  with a
proxy (Browser chat specific game etc) or even route by port (iptables).
But what to do when you need to transfer information ?
for example the game ( warrock) or any other new program ?

Maybe some Tor + tun  solution ?
since i don't have any end point server i guess ssh isn't a solutione .

any ideas are welcome .
the problem arised since this game denies user from outside the US or
Canada.


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Re: [OT] Using aliases or functions in bash script

2008-01-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
Sigh... sorry I wasted your time. 

You know those of us who voluntarily help out here are just that,
volunteers. We do it because we like to help and because we enjoy
problem solving. But, speaking for myself, I really only like to help
those who help us help them. 

All you have done is post a question and then respond to all the
answers with the equivalent of you are stupid and didn't read my post
and are no help. Did it ever occcur to you that maybe you could give
people the benefit of the doubt, assume that people made a reasonable
effort and honestly missed something? 

Allow me to demonstrate more appropriate responses below:

On Sat, Jan 26, 2008 at 09:40:12PM +, T o n g wrote:
 On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 13:32:57 -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
 
   I'm wondering if you have read my OP or not. Read it again pls.
   
Ken said:
   source ~/.bashrc
  
  Guess that I am having bad lucks now, having two people replied without
  even reading my question, and the two replies are the only replies that I
  get... 

Instead of complaining pointlessly, maybe you could have said
something like: 

Well, in my OP, I tried sourcing ~/.bashrc like this:

bash -O expand . ~/.bashrc; (foo bar baz);

and it didn't work. 

That would have made it perfectly clear where Ken had gone wrong. It
would have allowed me to see that you had in fact tried that option
from a couple of emails back and that it failed. Then I wouldn't have
seen you just spouting off about how unhelpful everyone was being but
actually proactively trying to solve your problem. In a situation
where someone missed the implication of the very last line of your
post, Ken's suggestion was very reasonable.

  
  how does this not answer your question? Ken suggests that you need to
  source .bashrc. That makes sense to me. . .
 
 Sigh Read it again pls, my OP, the last line.

No. I don't want to go back into my archive of 20,000 d-u posts and
find your OP and read it in close detail now that we are several
levels into this thread. Do you see? You are asking for help but
asking the helpers to jump through hoops because you are unwilling to
repeat yourself. That's just pointless arrogance, I guess.

 
 3rd now. 

whatever.

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