Re: lenny : pb avec flash

2008-08-09 Thread Grégory BULOT

François TOURDE a écrit :

Le 14099ième jour après Epoch,
David Hautbois écrivait:

  

Gaëtan PERRIER wrote:


[...]
  

Moi j'ai désintallé juste le plugin mozilla de swfdec qui certe impose de virer 
le paquet gnome mais comme ce n'est qu'un paquet vide juste là pour imposer 
l'installation d'autres paquets ce n'est pas génant.
Ensuite j'utlise le paquet flash de debian-multimedia.org et pas de soucis ça 
marche correctement.

Gaëtan

  
  

Quel paquet est un paquet vide ? gnome ?



Oui. C'est un méta paquet, dont le seul rôle est de procurer des
dépendances pour installer tous les autres.
  

le vide chez debian fait son pesant de cacahuètes : [...]167 à enlever
Il est nécessaire de télécharger 0o d'archives. Après dépaquetage, 514Mo 
seront libérés.


impossible de retirer un paquet en laissant des dépendances orphelines ?

Sinon je ferais ce que propose David Hautbois
En fait je voyais un script pour déplacer les fichiers et liens, car y'a 
des choses sympa dans swfdec : lancement d'une animation par action 
volontaire de l'utilisateur, car avec 1 pentium 3 cela prends tout son 
sens avec toutes ces pages qui débordent de flash dans tous les sens


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Re: LaCie big Disk 1To Linux

2008-08-09 Thread Grégory BULOT

jerome moliere a écrit :

Salut a tous les poilus,
j'ai voulu résoudre mes soucis d'espace disque surmon portable et j'ai 
investi dans cejolijoujou qui malheureusement ne marche pas
du tout, donc je me dirige vers vous pour savoir s'il ya une ruse, 
gogle n'est pas mon ami surle coup -)

Alors en testant j'aipu apercevoir un autre souci:
- connaissez vous une carte firewire en express card  qui marche sans 
soucis sous Linux? debian etch/lenny ou ubuntu 8.04?
- comment gérer ce joujou avec ses 2 disks en raid 0, car dans le 
meilleur des cas,je ne vois qu'une partition de 10Mo...en lecture seule...


merci d'avance



j'utilise une carte 'noname' de chez auchan qui a 4 usb  (dont 1 
interne) et un port firewire qui me donne entière satisfaction depuis 2 
ans, ce qui a du coûter cher était l'emballage je pense ...


00:0b.0 USB Controller: ALi Corporation USB 1.1 Controller (rev 03)
00:0b.1 USB Controller: ALi Corporation USB 1.1 Controller (rev 03)
00:0b.2 USB Controller: ALi Corporation USB 1.1 Controller (rev 03)
00:0b.3 USB Controller: ALi Corporation USB 2.0 Controller (rev 01)
00:0b.4 FireWire (IEEE 1394): ALi Corporation M5253 P1394 OHCI 1.1 
Controller


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Re: lenny : pb avec flash

2008-08-09 Thread Jean-Yves F. Barbier

Grégory BULOT a écrit :
...
En fait je voyais un script pour déplacer les fichiers et liens, car y'a 
des choses sympa dans swfdec : lancement d'une animation par action 
volontaire de l'utilisateur, car avec 1 pentium 3 cela prends tout son 
sens avec toutes ces pages qui débordent de flash dans tous les sens


y'a mieux: le module FlashBlock pour iceweasel

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Re: lenny : pb avec flash

2008-08-09 Thread Grégory BULOT

Jean-Yves F. Barbier a écrit :


y'a mieux: le module FlashBlock pour iceweasel



Sous etch, je ne l'ais pas trouvé intéressant

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lenny, amavisd-new avg antivirus

2008-08-09 Thread patrick
bonsoir,

pour le fun j'ai monté un serveur exim4 avec spamassasin et
antivirus...
jusqu'ici (depuis deux ans) ça fonctionnait nickel sous etch, mais
depuis ma migration sous lenny et le changement de version de
amavisd-new l'antivirus avg-free n'est plus compris par amavisd-new:
- pouvez-vous m'aider à définir clairement l'erreur déjà?
- je me demandais si on pouvait rattacher ce bug au bug#491084 ou si je
dois créer un rapport de bug exprès (ça serait une première...)

- sortie actuelle erronée---
# cat /var/log/mail.log | grep AVG
Aug  8 08:37:57 hermes amavis[17460]: (17460-13) ask_av Using (AVG
Anti-Virus): SCAN /var/lib/amavis/tmp/amavis-20080808T000$
Aug  8 08:37:57 hermes amavis[17460]: (17460-13) AVG Anti-Virus:
Connecting to socket  127.0.0.1:5
Aug  8 08:37:57 hermes amavis[17460]: (17460-13) AVG Anti-Virus: Sending
SCAN /var/lib/amavis/tmp/amavis-20080808T39-174$
Aug  8 08:37:57 hermes amavis[17460]: (17460-13) (!!)run_av (AVG
Anti-Virus) FAILED - unexpected , output=220-AVG7 Anti-Vir$
Aug  8 08:37:57 hermes amavis[17460]: (17460-13) (!!)AVG Anti-Virus
av-scanner FAILED: CODE(0xa761a68) unexpected , output=$

-- sortie antérieure à la migration ---

Jul 27 09:18:04 hermes amavis[17996]: (17996-06) Using AVG Anti-Virus:
(built-in interface)
Jul 27 09:18:04 hermes amavis[17996]: (17996-06) Using (AVG Anti-Virus)
on dir: SCAN /var/lib/amavis/tmp/amavis-20080727T073$
Jul 27 09:18:04 hermes amavis[17996]: (17996-06) AVG Anti-Virus:
Connecting to socket  127.0.0.1:5
Jul 27 09:18:04 hermes amavis[17996]: (17996-06) AVG Anti-Virus: Sending
SCAN /var/lib/amavis/tmp/amavis-20080727T073617-179$
Jul 27 09:18:05 hermes amavis[17996]: (17996-06) ask_av (AVG
Anti-Virus): /var/lib/amavis/tmp/amavis-20080727T073617-17996/p$
Jul 27 09:18:05 hermes amavis[17996]: (17996-06) AVG Anti-Virus result:
clean

quand je fais un telnet:
# telnet 127.0.0.1 5

Trying 127.0.0.1...
Connected to 127.0.0.1.
Escape character is '^]'.
220-AVG7 Anti-Virus daemon mode scanner
220-Program version 7.5.51, engine 442
220-Virus Database: Version 270.6.0/1601  2008-08-08
220 Ready

la connexion entre amavis et avg est établie mais amavis ne
l'interprète plus correctement.

quelqu'un a une idée?

merci (évidemment j'ai googlisé sans résultat).

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Re: XDM et résolution éc ran

2008-08-09 Thread Philippe Pepiot
Salut,
Tu peux peut être regarder comment xdm lance la session X dans
/etc/X11/xdm/Xservers et changer quelques arguments (-dpi VALUE par
exemple)...

Bonne journée !

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Re: Rappel : il est URGENT de mettre à jour les serveurs DNS récursifs, si ce n'est pas déjà fait

2008-08-09 Thread François Boisson
Le Mon, 28 Jul 2008 11:31:29 +0200
Guy Roussin [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit:

  J'ai fait un backport de bind9 etch pour sarge. Je suis en train de le
  tester sur un serveur. Tu le trouveras ici
  
  deb http://boisson.homeip.net/debian sarge divers
  
  Il utilises un backport de lsb-base de debian-backports que j'ai mis sur le
  serveur.
 Merci François. J'utilise les paquets i386 de ton dépot.
 Peux t-on avoir quelques détails supplémentaires sur la façon dont tu as
 procédé pour construire ce backport de bind9 ?

C'est relativement simple, chargement des sources de etch, installation des
dépendances via apt-get build-dep bind9, puis compilation en forçant
l'utilisation de debhelper version 4 (cela se fait en modifiant le fichier
debian/compat). Il n'y a pas eu de réelles difficultés, la seule chose est de
conserver un environnement sarge de développement (installé via debootstrap).

Je n'ai pas grand mérite pour bind9, il n'y a pas eu de difficulté...


François Boisson

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Re: [OT] : Microsoft SFU - Problème de permissions

2008-08-09 Thread Yves Rutschle
On Fri, Aug 08, 2008 at 03:42:17PM +0200, Thierry Leurent
wrote:
 Chaque users à les mêmes droits sur les fichiers mais ils
 n'ont pas les mêmes droits.

Personnellement, je ne comprend pas cette phrase: quelles
sont les commandes que tu as tapées et que répondent-elles?
(coté Debian comme coté Windows).

Y.

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Re: lenny : pb avec flash

2008-08-09 Thread Gaëtan PERRIER
On Sat, 09 Aug 2008 09:14:47 +0200
Grégory BULOT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 François TOURDE a écrit :
  Le 14099ième jour après Epoch,
  David Hautbois écrivait:
 

  Gaëtan PERRIER wrote:
  
  [...]

  Moi j'ai désintallé juste le plugin mozilla de swfdec qui certe impose de 
  virer le paquet gnome mais comme ce n'est qu'un paquet vide juste là pour 
  imposer l'installation d'autres paquets ce n'est pas génant.
  Ensuite j'utlise le paquet flash de debian-multimedia.org et pas de 
  soucis ça marche correctement.
 
  Gaëtan
 


  Quel paquet est un paquet vide ? gnome ?
  
 
  Oui. C'est un méta paquet, dont le seul rôle est de procurer des
  dépendances pour installer tous les autres.

 le vide chez debian fait son pesant de cacahuètes : [...]167 à enlever
 Il est nécessaire de télécharger 0o d'archives. Après dépaquetage, 514Mo 
 seront libérés.
 
 impossible de retirer un paquet en laissant des dépendances orphelines ?
 
 Sinon je ferais ce que propose David Hautbois
 En fait je voyais un script pour déplacer les fichiers et liens, car y'a 
 des choses sympa dans swfdec : lancement d'une animation par action 
 volontaire de l'utilisateur, car avec 1 pentium 3 cela prends tout son 
 sens avec toutes ces pages qui débordent de flash dans tous les sens
 

Bizarre chez moi en testing quand je lui demande de retirer swfdec-mozilla il 
me dit juste que ça va supprimer le paquet gnome mais pas ce qui dépend du 
paquet gnome...
Tu utilises quoi pour le faire?

Gaëtan

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Re: lenny : pb avec flash

2008-08-09 Thread Leopold BAILLY
Gaëtan PERRIER [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Sat, 09 Aug 2008 09:14:47 +0200
 Grégory BULOT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 François TOURDE a écrit :
  Le 14099ième jour après Epoch,
  David Hautbois écrivait:
 

  Gaëtan PERRIER wrote:
  
  [...]

  Moi j'ai désintallé juste le plugin mozilla de swfdec qui certe impose 
  de virer le paquet gnome mais comme ce n'est qu'un paquet vide juste là 
  pour imposer l'installation d'autres paquets ce n'est pas génant.
  Ensuite j'utlise le paquet flash de debian-multimedia.org et pas de 
  soucis ça marche correctement.
 
  Gaëtan
 


  Quel paquet est un paquet vide ? gnome ?
  
 
  Oui. C'est un méta paquet, dont le seul rôle est de procurer des
  dépendances pour installer tous les autres.

 le vide chez debian fait son pesant de cacahuètes : [...]167 à enlever
 Il est nécessaire de télécharger 0o d'archives. Après dépaquetage, 514Mo 
 seront libérés.
 
 impossible de retirer un paquet en laissant des dépendances orphelines ?
 
 Sinon je ferais ce que propose David Hautbois
 En fait je voyais un script pour déplacer les fichiers et liens, car y'a 
 des choses sympa dans swfdec : lancement d'une animation par action 
 volontaire de l'utilisateur, car avec 1 pentium 3 cela prends tout son 
 sens avec toutes ces pages qui débordent de flash dans tous les sens
 

 Bizarre chez moi en testing quand je lui demande de retirer
 swfdec-mozilla il me dit juste que ça va supprimer le paquet gnome
 mais pas ce qui dépend du paquet gnome...

Ça dépend de l'historique de tes installations. Aptitude fait la
différence entre ce que tu installes explicitement et les dépendances
qui s'installent implicitement.

Par exemple, si pour l'installation de gnome, tu installes le paquet
gnome, les dépendances vont s'installer implicitement et lorsque
tu désinstalleras gnome, toutes les dépendances suivront.

Au contraire, si tu installes gnome-desktop-environment,
gstreamer, etc explicitement, ils ne seront pas désinstallés en
cascade si gnome est désinstallé.

Pour en finir, il me semble qu'il y a bien une anomalie, gnome
devrait /Depends: swf-player/ et les 2 plugins (swfdec et flashplayer)
devraient /Provides: swf-player/, ce qui permettrait de les remplacer
l'un par l'autre de façon transparente, mais ce n'est pas le cas.

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Re: lenny : pb avec flash

2008-08-09 Thread David Hautbois



Gaëtan PERRIER wrote:

On Sat, 09 Aug 2008 09:14:47 +0200
Grégory BULOT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  

François TOURDE a écrit :


Le 14099ième jour après Epoch,
David Hautbois écrivait:

  
  

Gaëtan PERRIER wrote:



[...]
  
  

Moi j'ai désintallé juste le plugin mozilla de swfdec qui certe impose de virer 
le paquet gnome mais comme ce n'est qu'un paquet vide juste là pour imposer 
l'installation d'autres paquets ce n'est pas génant.
Ensuite j'utlise le paquet flash de debian-multimedia.org et pas de soucis ça 
marche correctement.

Gaëtan

  
  
  

Quel paquet est un paquet vide ? gnome ?



Oui. C'est un méta paquet, dont le seul rôle est de procurer des
dépendances pour installer tous les autres.
  
  

le vide chez debian fait son pesant de cacahuètes : [...]167 à enlever
Il est nécessaire de télécharger 0o d'archives. Après dépaquetage, 514Mo 
seront libérés.


impossible de retirer un paquet en laissant des dépendances orphelines ?

Sinon je ferais ce que propose David Hautbois
En fait je voyais un script pour déplacer les fichiers et liens, car y'a 
des choses sympa dans swfdec : lancement d'une animation par action 
volontaire de l'utilisateur, car avec 1 pentium 3 cela prends tout son 
sens avec toutes ces pages qui débordent de flash dans tous les sens





Bizarre chez moi en testing quand je lui demande de retirer swfdec-mozilla il 
me dit juste que ça va supprimer le paquet gnome mais pas ce qui dépend du 
paquet gnome...
Tu utilises quoi pour le faire?

Gaëtan

  

Chez moi, aptitude veut enlever 272 paquets.
Je suis tombé sur ce problème car j'ai dû tout réinstaller suite à une 
bête manip.
Mon système précédent avait bien le paquet gnome sans swfdec-mozilla, 
sans les dépendances soient cassées.

Je soupçonne le fait que c'était une lenny mise à jour depuis une etch.

D'ailleurs, au boulot, ma lenny est aussi dans cet état.

David.

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Re: LaCie big Disk 1To Linux

2008-08-09 Thread jerome moliere
Merci Grégory pour cette information,le problème c'est que cela va être dur
de la retrouver non?
Je pensais à quelque chose:
puis je imaginer d'exploser les partitions créées par LaCie de manière à
recréer un RAID soft sous Linux?
si je fais cela, est ce que j'ai la garantie que mon RAID sera bien géré de
la même manière d'une machine à une autre ?
C'est le noyau Linux qui gère l'empreinte des data donc si j'ai pas le même
noyau sous une autre machine,verrais je bien la même data ?
Je dis cela en présupposant que le RAID marche un peu comme en hard avec une
empreinte qui dépend du contrôleur hard utilisé non?

Merci de vos lumières
Jerome

2008/8/9 Grégory BULOT [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 jerome moliere a écrit :

 Salut a tous les poilus,
 j'ai voulu résoudre mes soucis d'espace disque surmon portable et j'ai
 investi dans cejolijoujou qui malheureusement ne marche pas
 du tout, donc je me dirige vers vous pour savoir s'il ya une ruse, gogle
 n'est pas mon ami surle coup -)
 Alors en testant j'aipu apercevoir un autre souci:
 - connaissez vous une carte firewire en express card  qui marche sans
 soucis sous Linux? debian etch/lenny ou ubuntu 8.04?
 - comment gérer ce joujou avec ses 2 disks en raid 0, car dans le meilleur
 des cas,je ne vois qu'une partition de 10Mo...en lecture seule...

 merci d'avance


 j'utilise une carte 'noname' de chez auchan qui a 4 usb  (dont 1 interne)
 et un port firewire qui me donne entière satisfaction depuis 2 ans, ce qui a
 du coûter cher était l'emballage je pense ...

 00:0b.0 USB Controller: ALi Corporation USB 1.1 Controller (rev 03)
 00:0b.1 USB Controller: ALi Corporation USB 1.1 Controller (rev 03)
 00:0b.2 USB Controller: ALi Corporation USB 1.1 Controller (rev 03)
 00:0b.3 USB Controller: ALi Corporation USB 2.0 Controller (rev 01)
 00:0b.4 FireWire (IEEE 1394): ALi Corporation M5253 P1394 OHCI 1.1
 Controller

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RAID 5 fonctionnel?

2008-08-09 Thread jerome moliere
Bonjour à tous,
je m'occupe un peu de mes machines donc mes questions fusent..Navré

Sur une box (debian Lenny 64 bits) j'ai 5 disks (1To chaque ) et j'ai créée
un RAID 5 dessus...
Seulement voilà je trouve bizarre qu'il me parle d'un disk en spare et d'un
fonctionnement dégradé? Est ce normal ?

voilà le résultat de la commande mdadm sur le status du premier array de
disks:
linuxbackup:/home/romje# mdadm --detail /dev/md0
/dev/md0:
Version : 00.90
  Creation Time : Sun Aug 10 03:20:25 2008
 Raid Level : raid5
 Array Size : 3907039744 (3726.04 GiB 4000.81 GB)
  Used Dev Size : 976759936 (931.51 GiB 1000.20 GB)
   Raid Devices : 5
  Total Devices : 5
Preferred Minor : 0
Persistence : Superblock is persistent

Update Time : Sun Aug 10 03:20:25 2008
  State : clean, degraded
 Active Devices : 4
Working Devices : 5
 Failed Devices : 0
  Spare Devices : 1

 Layout : left-symmetric
 Chunk Size : 4K

   UUID : 06844b0b:13c88974:737037b3:d0d8ed01 (local to host
linuxbackup)
 Events : 0.1

Number   Major   Minor   RaidDevice State
   0   8   170  active sync   /dev/sdb1
   1   8   331  active sync   /dev/sdc1
   2   8   492  active sync   /dev/sdd1
   3   8   653  active sync   /dev/sde1
   4   004  removed

   5   8   81-  spare   /dev/sdf1



donc ma question est : est ce normal ou dois je m'inquiéter ? l'état est
clean mais degradé non? le disk /dev/sdf1 est à l'écart des autres non?
est ce normal?

Merci d'avance pour vos remarques

Jerome
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Re: [OT] ¿Que conocimientos se requieren.. ?

2008-08-09 Thread Salvador Garcia Z.

Julián Esteban Perconti escribió:

Roger Orellana escribió:

On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 10:52 PM, Julián Esteban Perconti
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

Hola gente, recurro hacia ustedes, ya que estoy necesitando un switch
ethernet, algo de buena calidad y que no se cuelge cada 24 hs, en fin.
Estoy buscando en eBay, y me fui para el lado de cisco y 3com.
Lo que me llamo la atención es que estos switches, (hasta los de 12 
puertos)
tienen algo distinto.., (se ven bastantes mas complejos) que los 
switches
hogareños, esos que tienen los puertos y el input a 220 y nada mas; 
ya que
estos vienen con puertos de tipo db9, tienen como un fan atras, el 
input a

220 es como el de una fuente atx, y algunos tienen mas cosas aun.
Bueno, mi pregunta es: ¿estos aparatos se enchufan y listo? o hay que
realizar algun tipo de configuracion especial? (lo que me asusta mas 
es el

db9. (para algo esta)

les dejo el link de algunos de lo que me interesaron son:

http://cgi.ebay.com/3Com-Super-Stack-II-Switch-3000-12-Port_W0QQitemZ270125384081QQihZ017QQcategoryZ51268QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1638Q2em118Q2el1247 



http://cgi.ebay.com/Genuine-Cisco-WS-C2950-12-Catalyst-2950-Warranty-MINT_W0QQitemZ280251944908QQihZ018QQcategoryZ51268QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting 



http://cgi.ebay.com/Cisco-2900-Series-12-Port-Switch-WS-C2912-XL-EN_W0QQitemZ320283731291QQihZ011QQcategoryZ51268QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem 



En fin son algunos.

Desde ya muchas gracias, y perdon por el off topic, espero no ofender.

  Saludos a todos.





   Espero que ya hayas analizado que el switch es el problema y que
con cambiarlo se resolverá.

   De los tres, yo te recomiendo le segundo en primer lugar, y luego el
tercero.

   Por lo del DB9 no te preocupes. Ya que es un switch no es necesario
configurar nada, con que conectes los dispositivos funcionará 
correctamente.
Ahora bien, si lo que quieres en manipular y ver cómo trabaja, 
necesitaras

conectar una computadora al DB9. Pero te repito, no es necesario
para que funcione.

   Este tipo de switch están hechos para brindar gran confiabilidad
y es por ello que son más robustos. Además, permiten realizar
ciertas tareas administrativas y proporcionan estadísticas.

   Si tienes más dudas, consulta en Google cómo funciona
un switch y si no entiendes o necesitas más ayuda, preguntas
por acá.


   Saludos,


  
Me olvide de comentarte que si, es el switch, (los switch en 
realidad...) por que en realidad tengo un switch 3com 10/100 hogareño 
(muy) y un hub officeconect al cual le calló un rayo y tiene 2 bocas 
que no funcionan, estos estan puenteados con un patch cord cruzado.



Tengo el segundo que posteaste y no da ningún problema pero revisa si 
una tarjeta de red es la que te este ocasionando alguna colisión, suele 
pasar ese tipo de problemas y te tira toda la red



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Re: [OT] ¿Que conocimientos se requieren.. ?

2008-08-09 Thread Julián Esteban Perconti

Salvador Garcia Z. escribió:

Julián Esteban Perconti escribió:

Roger Orellana escribió:

On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 10:52 PM, Julián Esteban Perconti
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

Hola gente, recurro hacia ustedes, ya que estoy necesitando un switch
ethernet, algo de buena calidad y que no se cuelge cada 24 hs, en fin.
Estoy buscando en eBay, y me fui para el lado de cisco y 3com.
Lo que me llamo la atención es que estos switches, (hasta los de 12 
puertos)
tienen algo distinto.., (se ven bastantes mas complejos) que los 
switches
hogareños, esos que tienen los puertos y el input a 220 y nada mas; 
ya que
estos vienen con puertos de tipo db9, tienen como un fan atras, el 
input a

220 es como el de una fuente atx, y algunos tienen mas cosas aun.
Bueno, mi pregunta es: ¿estos aparatos se enchufan y listo? o hay que
realizar algun tipo de configuracion especial? (lo que me asusta 
mas es el

db9. (para algo esta)

les dejo el link de algunos de lo que me interesaron son:

http://cgi.ebay.com/3Com-Super-Stack-II-Switch-3000-12-Port_W0QQitemZ270125384081QQihZ017QQcategoryZ51268QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1638Q2em118Q2el1247 



http://cgi.ebay.com/Genuine-Cisco-WS-C2950-12-Catalyst-2950-Warranty-MINT_W0QQitemZ280251944908QQihZ018QQcategoryZ51268QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting 



http://cgi.ebay.com/Cisco-2900-Series-12-Port-Switch-WS-C2912-XL-EN_W0QQitemZ320283731291QQihZ011QQcategoryZ51268QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem 



En fin son algunos.

Desde ya muchas gracias, y perdon por el off topic, espero no ofender.

  Saludos a todos.





   Espero que ya hayas analizado que el switch es el problema y que
con cambiarlo se resolverá.

   De los tres, yo te recomiendo le segundo en primer lugar, y luego el
tercero.

   Por lo del DB9 no te preocupes. Ya que es un switch no es necesario
configurar nada, con que conectes los dispositivos funcionará 
correctamente.
Ahora bien, si lo que quieres en manipular y ver cómo trabaja, 
necesitaras

conectar una computadora al DB9. Pero te repito, no es necesario
para que funcione.

   Este tipo de switch están hechos para brindar gran confiabilidad
y es por ello que son más robustos. Además, permiten realizar
ciertas tareas administrativas y proporcionan estadísticas.

   Si tienes más dudas, consulta en Google cómo funciona
un switch y si no entiendes o necesitas más ayuda, preguntas
por acá.


   Saludos,


  
Me olvide de comentarte que si, es el switch, (los switch en 
realidad...) por que en realidad tengo un switch 3com 10/100 hogareño 
(muy) y un hub officeconect al cual le calló un rayo y tiene 2 bocas 
que no funcionan, estos estan puenteados con un patch cord cruzado.



Tengo el segundo que posteaste y no da ningún problema pero revisa si 
una tarjeta de red es la que te este ocasionando alguna colisión, 
suele pasar ese tipo de problemas y te tira toda la red




y como podria revisar eso?
es los cuelges son en cualquier momento, no tengo margen de nada.. :S
algo comandito magico?


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Re: [OT] Tuneleo/Proxy puerto 110/80, es posible?

2008-08-09 Thread Jose Luis Gómez
El vie, 08-08-2008 a las 19:22 -0500, Roberto Velázquez escribió:
 El día 8 de agosto de 2008 18:13, Jose Luis Gómez [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 escribió:
  El vie, 08-08-2008 a las 19:58 -0300, Victor H De la Luz escribió:
  2008/8/8 Jose Luis Gómez [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
   El sáb, 09-08-2008 a las 00:38 +0200, Jose Luis Gómez escribió:
   El vie, 08-08-2008 a las 17:20 -0500, Roberto V. escribió:
Jose Luis Gómez escribió:
 El vie, 08-08-2008 a las 16:54 -0500, Roberto V. escribió:
 Que tal lista,

 He buscado por google y no me ha quedado bien lo que a continuación
 pregunto:

 En mi trabajo han bloqueado el puerto 80, es decir ya no podemos 
 ver
 páginas web, pero tenemos acceso al correo a través del puerto 110 
 de
 pop3 y salida de correo por el puerto 25 que es smtp. Entonces me
 gustaria saber si es posible usar algún proxy o tunnel para salir a
 través del 110. Es decir en mi casa, por ejemplo, mi PC que tiene 
 salida
 a internet sin restricción estaria el proxy/tunnel.
 Lo que tenia pensado era cambiar en el firefox la conexión de 
 conexión
 directa a internet a usar un proxy y en poner la dir. de la
 computadora de mi casa y en el puerto poner el puerto 110. y la PC 
 de mi
 casa estaria escuchando por ese puerto y me devolveria las 
 peticiones
 por el 110. ¿Es posible?

 Si es asi, que programa (claro, en debian) me serviria? ¿Serviria 
 para
 esto el squid?

 Saludos y gracias


 En principio si, con un squid en tu casa te sobraría.

 Digo en principio pq depende de un millón de cosas.:

   1) Dices que tienes salida por smtp : Si se han molestado en 
 caparte la
 navegación, casi seguro que tienes filtrado por IP destino las
 conexiones smtp. Permitirán al relay de donde te den el 
 hosting/housing
 del correo y poco más.

   2) Que no tengan filtro a nivel de capa 7 : Si solo filtran por
 protocolo pasas, pero si filtran a nivel de aplicación, por mucho 
 que lo
 pases por el puerto que sea, van a pescar que es navegación (o lo 
 que
 proceda).

 Dudo que las máquinas estén habilitadas para el acceso directo a
 internet, este tema se suele montar con proxy y despues un firewall 
 de
 primera linea que deja salir a ciertas IPs a Internet mediante NAT. 
 Así
 controlas que máquinas salen y con que IP pública salen.

 OrigenDestino ServicioOrigen  
 Destino
 MáquinaX  OriginalANY Interface-NAT   Original

 Esto en término de NAT, despues capas puertos con firewall.

 En resumen ... depende de lo chapucera que sea tu empresa.

 Un Saludo.


Pues aun no entiendo bien si tienen filtrado por capa 7, pero puedo
comentar que para la navegación, tambien tienen restricciones, es 
decir.
Los usuarios normales no tenemos acceso a nada de http, solo correo. 
Los
jefes intermedios, por asi llamarlos, tienen acceso a páginas web,
pero solo las que sean http, no https ni tampoco tienen acceso a 
ciertas
páginas ni pueden bajar ciertos archivos (audio, video, comprimidos,
exe, etc). y los jefes de alto rango si tienen acceso total al 
internet.
Esto lo logran logueandose al firewall y dependiendo del usuario es 
el
nivel de acceso a internet. La empresa tiene un firewall llamadao
Firebox/Watchguard.
Con esta información un poco más amplia es posible saber si se puede
hacer lo que planteaba yo en mi pregunta original?
   
Saludos y gracias.
   
   
   Todo lo que comentas puede realizarse con mucha o poca logística, eso
   tampoco determina las medidas proactivas de seguridad que tengan. Me
   explico ...
  
   Que haya distintos perfiles a la hora de navegación garantiza que hay
   por ahí un proxy (además del firewall) ... si tu empresa es Windowsiana,
   casi seguro que tendrá un ISA y las políticas de grupo las mira contra
   el AD. Si es Linuxera, tendrá un Squid y gestiona esos perfiles con ACLs
   o un LDAP, OAS o la madre que me parió.
  
   Por lo que comentas, casi estoy seguro, que tendrá una configuración del
   tipo Firewall+Proxy+Gestor de contenidos (websense o los millones que
   hay) ... eso suele ser lo más normal.
  
   También existe la posibilidad, de que tu empresa maneje panoja y se haya
   gastado 30.000 € en la implantación de un IPS/IDS estilo Intrushield o
   gaitas similares, con lo que a parte del Firewall + Gestor de
   Contenidos, tendrá filtro capa 7.
  
   Siento no darte ninguna respuesta concreta, quiero que te llegue el
   mensaje de que con los datos que disponemos no podemos determinar nada.
   Aun caben todas las posibilidades.
  
   Para saber más sobre el ámbito en el que te estás moviendo, si no
   conoces la topología de red, te aconsejo tirar de herramientas tipo
   netdiscover y 

Re: [OT] ¿Que conocimientos se requieren..?

2008-08-09 Thread Iñigo Tejedor Arrondo
2008/8/9 Julián Esteban Perconti [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Hola gente, recurro hacia ustedes, ya que estoy necesitando un switch
 ethernet, algo de buena calidad y que no se cuelge cada 24 hs, en fin.
 Estoy buscando en eBay, y me fui para el lado de cisco y 3com.
 Lo que me llamo la atención es que estos switches, (hasta los de 12 puertos)
 tienen algo distinto.., (se ven bastantes mas complejos) que los switches
 hogareños, esos que tienen los puertos y el input a 220 y nada mas; ya que
 estos vienen con puertos de tipo db9, tienen como un fan atras, el input a
 220 es como el de una fuente atx, y algunos tienen mas cosas aun.
 Bueno, mi pregunta es: ¿estos aparatos se enchufan y listo? o hay que
 realizar algun tipo de configuracion especial? (lo que me asusta mas es el
 db9. (para algo esta)

 les dejo el link de algunos de lo que me interesaron son:

Hola Julian,

  Con los 3Com y HP, con la configuración de fábrica te van a funcionar
como un switch sencillo no gestionable.

  Pero, como bien dices, los administrables, te van a dar mucho más juego:

Consola de administración (telnet, ssh, puerto serie y web)
Te permiten jugar con vlans:
   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_LAN
Tienen logs, filtros, alertas, SNMP para monitorizar con cati,
nagios, etc...
Tienen NTP para sincronizar la hora.
Puedes gestionarlos con un menú tipo ncurses o directamente a comandos
Suelen tener QoS
Te permiten hacer configuraciones avanzadas del bonding de linux:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Link_aggregation
En los que tienen Spanning Tree, puedes protegerte de loops en la red.
Y muchas más cosas.

  Como puedes ver, poco tienen que ver con un switch no gestionable.

  En la página del fabricante, deberías poder encontrar las especificaciones de
cada uno y que es lo que pueden hacer, para poder elegir.

  Si son muy viejos, tal ve te conviene actualizar el firmware:

 http://inigo.homeunix.net/node/49

Saludos
Iñigo


VNC y Xen

2008-08-09 Thread boube
Hola a todos,

Ando estos días viendo algo de Xen, más concretamente como instalar un
SO sin modificar (Full virtualization).

El problema que tengo es que no consigo que Xen abra la sesión de VNC
para conectarme a la máquina virtual. También lo he intentado con SDL,
con idéntico resultado.

*Este es el fichero de configuración de xen:

(network-script network-bridge)
(vif-script vif-bridge)
(dom0-min-mem 196)
(dom0-cpus 0)
(vnc-listen '0.0.0.0')



*El de la máquina:

builder = 'hvm'
memory = '512'
kernel = '/usr/lib/xen-3.0.3-1/boot/hvmloader'
disk = [ 'file:/mnt/home/boube/xen/domains/full/disk.img,ioemu:hda,w',
'file:/mnt/home/boube/isos/full.iso,hdb:cdrom,r' ]
name = 'full'
vif = [ 'type=ioemu, mac=00:16:3e:74:74:a5' ]
on_poweroff = 'destroy'
on_reboot = 'restart'
on_crash = 'restart'
boot='d'
device_model = 'qemu-dm'
ne2000 = 1
acpi = 1
sdl = 0
vnc = 1
vncviewer = 0



Paquetes relacionados:

buzz:/etc/xen# dpkg -l | egrep ^ii .*(xen|vnc|sdl) | awk '{print $2}'
libc6-xen
libsdl1.2debian
libsdl1.2debian-alsa
linux-image-2.6.18-6-xen-686
linux-modules-2.6.18-6-xen-686
tightvncserver
vnc-common
vnc4server
vncserver
xen-hypervisor-3.0.3-1-i386-pae
xen-ioemu-3.0.3-1
xen-linux-system-2.6.18-6-xen-686
xen-utils-3.0.3-1
xen-utils-common
xenman
xtightvncviewer


Cualquier ayda será bienvenida

Saludos a todos

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Re: traducción de security/

2008-08-09 Thread Roger Orellana
2008/8/7 Antonio Galindo Castro [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
   Hola Enrique, pues me gustaría apoyarte en este misión :)

   Habría que ver quién más está interesado.

  me gustaría empezar a traducir la sección de fallos de seguridad de la 
 página
 web. Creo que es una página importante para que Debian se extienda entre los

 --
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 Fingerprint: 237E EFE1 6055 BCEB ACD0 7A49 30FC A883 0044 A85E


 --

   Cuál es el mecanismo de traducción de las alertas de seguridad?
El mismo que es los .po?

   Yo podría hacer un poco de tiempo y ayudar.


   Saludos,



-- 
Roger Orellana


Re: [OT] ¿Que conocimientos se requieren..?

2008-08-09 Thread Roger Orellana

 y como podria revisar eso?
 es los cuelges son en cualquier momento, no tengo margen de nada.. :S
 algo comandito magico?



   Para esto, tienes que hacer un análisis del tráfico de paquetes en la red.
Puedes probar con darkstat que está en los paquetes de Debian.
Hay muchos otros paquetes que te siren para esto.

   Instalas darkstat y monitoreas en tráfico. Si todo parece normal, no
creo que sea problema de la red. Aunque ya me ha pasado que hay
dispositivos que crean un tráfico impresionante saturando la red e impidiendo
la comunicación. Si este es tu caso, el switch no podrá hacer mucha
diferencia.

   Comenta un poco más tu situación para hacernos una idea más clara.


   Saludos,

-- 
Roger Orellana


Re: [OT] Tuneleo/Proxy puerto 110/80, es posible?

2008-08-09 Thread Miguel Da Silva - Centro de Matemática

Roberto V. escreveu:

Que tal lista,

He buscado por google y no me ha quedado bien lo que a continuación 
pregunto:


En mi trabajo han bloqueado el puerto 80, es decir ya no podemos ver 
páginas web, pero tenemos acceso al correo a través del puerto 110 de 
pop3 y salida de correo por el puerto 25 que es smtp. Entonces me 
gustaria saber si es posible usar algún proxy o tunnel para salir a 
través del 110. Es decir en mi casa, por ejemplo, mi PC que tiene salida 
a internet sin restricción estaria el proxy/tunnel.
Lo que tenia pensado era cambiar en el firefox la conexión de conexión 
directa a internet a usar un proxy y en poner la dir. de la 
computadora de mi casa y en el puerto poner el puerto 110. y la PC de mi 
casa estaria escuchando por ese puerto y me devolveria las peticiones 
por el 110. ¿Es posible?


Si es asi, que programa (claro, en debian) me serviria? ¿Serviria para 
esto el squid?


Saludos y gracias




Bueno... realmente querés buscar una manerar de saltear las medidas de 
seguridad que la empresa para la cual trabajás puso a funcionar? Creo 
que estás buscando problemas.


Independientemente del tipo de como esté armado todo el mecanismo, 
seguramente tendrán un control de tráfico y les resultará extraño ver 
que de tu PC sale mucho correo electrónico. Más extraño aún será ver que 
el tráfico en cuestión está encriptado y va hacia una PC hogareña!!! 
Peor todavía, hay mucho tráfico hacia la PC hogareña, siendo que en una 
conexión POP3 la mayoría del tráfico viene hacia el cliente (en este 
caso, tu estación de trabajo)!!!


Puede llevar 1 dia, 1 semana o 1 año para que se den cuenta, pero van a 
percibir ese tipo de comportamiento.


En fin... suerte.
--
Miguel Da Silva
Administrador Junior de Sistemas Unix
Centro de Matemática - http://www.cmat.edu.uy
Facultad de Ciencias - http://www.fcien.edu.uy
Universidad de la República - http://www.rau.edu.uy


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Re: Ejecutar scripts .sh en pareticion ext3 en un lapiz USB

2008-08-09 Thread mylinuxmaillists-2007
Hola Fernando.

Efectivamente, tienes razon, lo que yo buscaba era la manera de ponerle a la 
particion un atributo de ejecutable y no tener que hacer eso cada vezno 
he encontrado nada.

En fin, si no queda otro remedio pues lo haremos:)

Saludos
Josep



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 De: fernandojoseGmail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Asunto: Re: Ejecutar scripts .sh en pareticion ext3 en un lapiz USB
 Para: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org
 Fecha: viernes, 8 agosto, 2008 12:26
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hola Fernando.
 
  Efectivamente, lo he mirado y si, pero me explico un
 poco mas lo que quiero hacer:
 
 
  Tengo un lapiz usb en el cual he puesto todos los
 paquetes que necesito  para lenny , mi idea es arrancar con
 el netinst cd  e instalar solo lo minimo,
 despues copiar los paquetes a /var/cache/apt/archives,
 despues ejecuto dselect y apt-get install y ya tengo todos
 los paquetes instalados.
 
  Todo queria hacerlo desde el usb por eso queria
 asignar a esa particion permisos de que se pueda ejecutar
 desde ella, siempre, no cada vez que me toque instalar
 linux.
 
 
  Saludos
  Josep
 
 

 No te entiendo bien, no es problema de la partición, es
 problema de la
 forma en que se
 monta la partición.
 En algún momento tu montas la partición, si lo hace el
 sistema de forma
 automática
 lo hará con los parámetros por defecto que te comentaba,
 con users
 que implica
 el noexec por lo que deberías desmontarla y
 montarla manualmente con
 el parámetro
 exec

 Un saludo.

 

  Tengo un lapiz usb formateado en ext3 que
 cuando

  quiero ejecutar algun script.sh por ejemplo me
 dice que
  acceso denegado, copiando ese script al hd
 funciona sin
  problemas.
  
  Problema de permisos de directorio no es, debe
 ser

  algo de como esta montada la unidad..alguien sabe
 que hay
  que hacer?
  
  Saludos
  Josep
 




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[OT] es necesario reiniciar las estaciones para restaurar la navegacion

2008-08-09 Thread kazabe
Holas.

Hace unos meses monte un servidor con firewall, correo y proxy.  Tambien
administra el DHCP. Desde hace unos dias, se esta notando que todos los
equipos quedan sin navegacion, y es necesario reiniciarlos para que puedan
volver a navegar.

Los mas raro es que el correo sigue fucionandoles sin problema durante ese
lapso, asi que no es que se caiga en enlace de red.  Es como si solo fallara
la navegacion, pero al reiniciar las estaciones vuelven a navegar, asi que
el proxy se supone que esta bien.

Alguno de ustedes ha tenido una experiencia similar?

El switch que usamos no es administrable, asi que no se como descartar
problemas en el mismo.

http://www.trendnet.com/products/proddetail.asp?prod=265_TE100-S16Epluscat=114

Gracias de antemano por su colaboracion

saludos

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el universo y la estupidez humana... y no estoy muy seguro de la primera» :
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atascado con un script menu

2008-08-09 Thread sercuto
Hola a todos.

Quiero hacer un script que presente un menu en la consola (elije 1, 2,
3), y añadirle la funcionalidad de un timeout, el cual trancurridos
unos segudos elija una opción por defecto.

Lo estoy intentando en Perl (pero si se puede hacer en bash o incluso
C me viene bien, la idea es que se pueda ejecutar en debian), pero me
estoy liando.

El menú lo tengo claro, un stdin y unos cuantos if, el problema es que
no sé como implementar el timeout.

Buscando por el google, he leido que para realizar menus interactivos
no se utiliza el stdin ya que no permite automatizar el proceso de
entrada de datos.

Mirando en cpan he encontrado cosas como expect, send, spawn y en C he
visto que la librerias tipo conio y iostream me pueden venir bien.

El caso es que cada vez me estoy perdiendo más y por eso os pido ayuda.

Ni que decir tiene que todo esto es porque estoy muy justito en
programación.

¿Por donde he de enfocar la cosa?

De momento solo he llegado a esto:

#!/usr/bin/perl
use Term::ANSIColor;

imprime_menu();

close(STDIN);
print STDOUT Por favor elije una opción:\n;
$input = STDIN;
print STDOUT The number is $input\n;
chop($input);  

if ($input =='') {
sleep 5;
print 'vacio!';
print Han pasado 5 valiosos segundos!!\n;
$input = 5\r;
print $input;
close(STDIN);
} 
if ($input == '1') {
print 'opcion1!';
}
if ($input eq '2') {
print \nopcion2\n;
} 

Gracias



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Re: atascado con un script menu

2008-08-09 Thread Abraham Pérez
El 5 de agosto de 2008 19:24, [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:

 Hola a todos.

 Quiero hacer un script que presente un menu en la consola (elije 1, 2,
 3), y añadirle la funcionalidad de un timeout, el cual trancurridos
 unos segudos elija una opción por defecto.

 Lo estoy intentando en Perl (pero si se puede hacer en bash o incluso
 C me viene bien, la idea es que se pueda ejecutar en debian), pero me
 estoy liando.


Por supuesto que se podría hacer en bash... echa un vistazo a esto:
http://linux.die.net/man/1/dialog



 El menú lo tengo claro, un stdin y unos cuantos if, el problema es que
 no sé como implementar el timeout.

 Buscando por el google, he leido que para realizar menus interactivos
 no se utiliza el stdin ya que no permite automatizar el proceso de
 entrada de datos.

 Mirando en cpan he encontrado cosas como expect, send, spawn y en C he
 visto que la librerias tipo conio y iostream me pueden venir bien.

 El caso es que cada vez me estoy perdiendo más y por eso os pido ayuda.

 Ni que decir tiene que todo esto es porque estoy muy justito en
 programación.

 ¿Por donde he de enfocar la cosa?

 De momento solo he llegado a esto:

 #!/usr/bin/perl
 use Term::ANSIColor;

 imprime_menu();

 close(STDIN);
 print STDOUT Por favor elije una opción:\n;
 $input = STDIN;
 print STDOUT The number is $input\n;
 chop($input);

 if ($input =='') {
sleep 5;
print 'vacio!';
print Han pasado 5 valiosos segundos!!\n;
$input = 5\r;
print $input;
close(STDIN);
 }
 if ($input == '1') {
print 'opcion1!';
 }
 if ($input eq '2') {
print \nopcion2\n;
 }

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haya sido de ayuda.


Consulta sobre proxy reverso con Apache2

2008-08-09 Thread Daniel Bareiro
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Hola!

Tengo un Apache que sirve localmente varios virtual hosts donde me
gustaría agregar otros virtual hosts que se encuentren en otro servidor
Apache de mi red interna. Para ello agregué un archivo
reverse-sites.freesoftware.org en sites-available donde agrupar todos
los virtual hosts que se encuentren en el otro servidor, lo habilité,
agregué los módulos proxy y rewrite y usé una configuración como esta:

- 
VirtualHost *

ServerAdmin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ServerName host.dominio

# Rerverse proxy. No usamos ProxyPass porque impide que mod_rewrite
# funcione.
ProxyRequests Off
ProxyPassReverse / http://host.dominio/
ProxyPreserveHost on

# Esta linea es la que hace el reverse proxy.
RewriteRule ^/(.*)$ http://host.dominio/$1 [P]

Proxy *
Order Deny,Allow
Allow from all
/Proxy

ErrorLog |/usr/bin/cronolog
/var/log/apache2/ws1/%Y%m/%Y%m%d_host.dominio_error.log
CustomLog |/usr/bin/cronolog
/var/log/apache2/ws1/%Y%m/%Y%m%d_host.dominio_access.log
combined

# Possible values include: debug, info, notice, warn, error, crit,
# alert, emerg.
LogLevel warn

ServerSignature On

# Para solucionar errores:
# Error reading from remote server
SetEnv force-proxy-request-1.0 1
SetEnv proxy-nokeepalive 1

/VirtualHost
- 

El tema es que cuando intento acceder a host.dominio desde afuera,
obtengo algo como esto:

Not Found. The requested URL / was not found on this server.

¿Puede ser que me esté faltando algo? Me habían hecho un comentario que
puede haber problemas si el mismo Apache está sirviendo sitios
localmente.

Gracias anticipadas por responder.

Saludos,
Daniel

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Re: [OT] Tuneleo/Proxy puerto 110/80, es posible?

2008-08-09 Thread Jose Luis Gómez
El sáb, 09-08-2008 a las 13:28 -0300, Miguel Da Silva - Centro de
Matemática escribió:
 Roberto V. escreveu:
  Que tal lista,
  
  He buscado por google y no me ha quedado bien lo que a continuación 
  pregunto:
  
  En mi trabajo han bloqueado el puerto 80, es decir ya no podemos ver 
  páginas web, pero tenemos acceso al correo a través del puerto 110 de 
  pop3 y salida de correo por el puerto 25 que es smtp. Entonces me 
  gustaria saber si es posible usar algún proxy o tunnel para salir a 
  través del 110. Es decir en mi casa, por ejemplo, mi PC que tiene salida 
  a internet sin restricción estaria el proxy/tunnel.
  Lo que tenia pensado era cambiar en el firefox la conexión de conexión 
  directa a internet a usar un proxy y en poner la dir. de la 
  computadora de mi casa y en el puerto poner el puerto 110. y la PC de mi 
  casa estaria escuchando por ese puerto y me devolveria las peticiones 
  por el 110. ¿Es posible?
  
  Si es asi, que programa (claro, en debian) me serviria? ¿Serviria para 
  esto el squid?
  
  Saludos y gracias
  
  
 
 Bueno... realmente querés buscar una manerar de saltear las medidas de 
 seguridad que la empresa para la cual trabajás puso a funcionar? Creo 
 que estás buscando problemas.
 
 Independientemente del tipo de como esté armado todo el mecanismo, 
 seguramente tendrán un control de tráfico y les resultará extraño ver 
 que de tu PC sale mucho correo electrónico. Más extraño aún será ver que 
 el tráfico en cuestión está encriptado y va hacia una PC hogareña!!! 
 Peor todavía, hay mucho tráfico hacia la PC hogareña, siendo que en una 
 conexión POP3 la mayoría del tráfico viene hacia el cliente (en este 
 caso, tu estación de trabajo)!!!
 
 Puede llevar 1 dia, 1 semana o 1 año para que se den cuenta, pero van a 
 percibir ese tipo de comportamiento.
 
 En fin... suerte.
 -- 
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 Administrador Junior de Sistemas Unix
 Centro de Matemática - http://www.cmat.edu.uy
 Facultad de Ciencias - http://www.fcien.edu.uy
 Universidad de la República - http://www.rau.edu.uy
 
 

Pues yo en este punto discrepo. Creo que una vez saltadas las medidas de
seguridad perimetrales, ya no te pescan.

Tengo el culo ya un poco pelao y aun no vi lugar en que se realicen
las actividades que dices ...

¿Monitorizar Tráfico de Workstations? -- Bastante trabajoso es
monitorizar las cosas importantes (servidores, routers, switches ...)
como para ponerte a monitorizar Workstations.

¿Detectar tráfico cifrado? -- Más cosas pasarán por SSL , supongo (y
espero) que la gente que tiene navegación les dejen utilizar el https.

¿Monitorizar IPs destino y detectar la de tu casa? -- Ojú, una empresa
medio normal ... conecta a unas cuantas IPs al día eh?.

Aunque claro, todo es relativo, si la infraestructura TI se reduce a tu
Workstation y las conexiones salientes permitidas a 2 IPs en
concreto ... tonces si que pueden pescarte.

Un Saludo.


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Re: [OT] Tuneleo/Proxy puerto 110/80, es posible?

2008-08-09 Thread Miguel Da Silva - Centro de Matemática

Jose Luis Gómez escreveu:

El sáb, 09-08-2008 a las 13:28 -0300, Miguel Da Silva - Centro de
Matemática escribió:

Roberto V. escreveu:

Que tal lista,

He buscado por google y no me ha quedado bien lo que a continuación 
pregunto:


En mi trabajo han bloqueado el puerto 80, es decir ya no podemos ver 
páginas web, pero tenemos acceso al correo a través del puerto 110 de 
pop3 y salida de correo por el puerto 25 que es smtp. Entonces me 
gustaria saber si es posible usar algún proxy o tunnel para salir a 
través del 110. Es decir en mi casa, por ejemplo, mi PC que tiene salida 
a internet sin restricción estaria el proxy/tunnel.
Lo que tenia pensado era cambiar en el firefox la conexión de conexión 
directa a internet a usar un proxy y en poner la dir. de la 
computadora de mi casa y en el puerto poner el puerto 110. y la PC de mi 
casa estaria escuchando por ese puerto y me devolveria las peticiones 
por el 110. ¿Es posible?


Si es asi, que programa (claro, en debian) me serviria? ¿Serviria para 
esto el squid?


Saludos y gracias


Bueno... realmente querés buscar una manerar de saltear las medidas de 
seguridad que la empresa para la cual trabajás puso a funcionar? Creo 
que estás buscando problemas.


Independientemente del tipo de como esté armado todo el mecanismo, 
seguramente tendrán un control de tráfico y les resultará extraño ver 
que de tu PC sale mucho correo electrónico. Más extraño aún será ver que 
el tráfico en cuestión está encriptado y va hacia una PC hogareña!!! 
Peor todavía, hay mucho tráfico hacia la PC hogareña, siendo que en una 
conexión POP3 la mayoría del tráfico viene hacia el cliente (en este 
caso, tu estación de trabajo)!!!


Puede llevar 1 dia, 1 semana o 1 año para que se den cuenta, pero van a 
percibir ese tipo de comportamiento.


En fin... suerte.
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Administrador Junior de Sistemas Unix
Centro de Matemática - http://www.cmat.edu.uy
Facultad de Ciencias - http://www.fcien.edu.uy
Universidad de la República - http://www.rau.edu.uy




Pues yo en este punto discrepo. Creo que una vez saltadas las medidas de
seguridad perimetrales, ya no te pescan.

Tengo el culo ya un poco pelao y aun no vi lugar en que se realicen
las actividades que dices ...

¿Monitorizar Tráfico de Workstations? -- Bastante trabajoso es
monitorizar las cosas importantes (servidores, routers, switches ...)
como para ponerte a monitorizar Workstations.

¿Detectar tráfico cifrado? -- Más cosas pasarán por SSL , supongo (y
espero) que la gente que tiene navegación les dejen utilizar el https.

¿Monitorizar IPs destino y detectar la de tu casa? -- Ojú, una empresa
medio normal ... conecta a unas cuantas IPs al día eh?.

Aunque claro, todo es relativo, si la infraestructura TI se reduce a tu
Workstation y las conexiones salientes permitidas a 2 IPs en
concreto ... tonces si que pueden pescarte.

Un Saludo.




Si vos lo decís... bien por vos.

Suerte en pila.
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Facultad de Ciencias - http://www.fcien.edu.uy
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Re: Tarjeta Gigabyte...

2008-08-09 Thread Felix Perez
El día 8 de agosto de 2008 20:35, Félix E. Urbina C.
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 2008/8/7 Félix E. Urbina C. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Hola a todos,

 He estado probando la instalación de Debian Etch en una PC clon, las
 especificaciones exactas son las siguientes:

 - Tarjeta madre Gigabyte GA-VM900M
 - Ram de 1G DDR II 667
 - Disco sata de 80G

 El detalle que tengo es cuando llega la etapa de crear las particiones,
 no reconoce el disco duro, intenté cambiando algunas variables del BIOS
 igualmente sigue sin reconocer el disco.



 Tienes el cable de sata conectado a SATA 0 a la mother  ?

 Caramba, si tengo conectado el cable.

 Que release de etch es ?


 Es la Etch r3


 Si alguien tiene otra idea en los modos de inicio de instalación o algo
 diferente se lo agradezco. Ya intenté deshabilitando noapic nolapic u
 otras ayudas del disco de instalación de Debian.

 Saludos...




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 No quiero instalarle Lenny, por que es para un amigo y resulta que él
 sabe muy poco de Debian, está aprendiendo, se le hará traumático empezar
 dando tumbos, pienso yo. Bueno, espero que le funcione bien como le hice
 la instalación de Ubuntu a la final, pero seguiré buscando las maneras
 de instalarle Debian como sea. Quizás cuando tenga mas tiempo usando el
 Ubuntu, le instalo la Lenny.


Y cual es el problema de lenny?  ubuntu se basa en testing luego
congela una release la pule un poco y la lanza cada seis mese, ahora
que lenny se ha congelado no le veo el problema.  Incluso ahora con
testing cero problemas en dos notebooks y un pc de escritorio.


http://doc.ubuntu-es.org/Debian_y_Ubuntu

Suerte.


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Re: Consulta sobre proxy reverso con Apache2

2008-08-09 Thread Carlos Miranda
2008/8/9 Daniel Bareiro [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Tengo un Apache que sirve localmente varios virtual hosts donde me
 gustaría agregar otros virtual hosts que se encuentren en otro servidor
 Apache de mi red interna. Para ello agregué un archivo
 reverse-sites.freesoftware.org en sites-available donde agrupar todos
 los virtual hosts que se encuentren en el otro servidor, lo habilité,
 agregué los módulos proxy y rewrite y usé una configuración como esta:

 - 
 Not Found. The requested URL / was not found on this server.

 ¿Puede ser que me esté faltando algo? Me habían hecho un comentario que
 puede haber problemas si el mismo Apache está sirviendo sitios
 localmente.

El .conf de ese VirtualHosta esta solamente en
/etc/apache2/sites-available/  ?
le hiciste un
~:# ln -s /etc/apach2/site-available/everse-sites.freesoftware.org
/etc/apache2/sites-enabled/

Con eso vas a poder seguir viendo que esta fallando.

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Re: [OT] es necesario reiniciar las estaciones para restaurar la navegacion

2008-08-09 Thread Carlos Miranda
On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 3:28 PM, kazabe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Holas.

 Hace unos meses monte un servidor con firewall, correo y proxy.  Tambien
 administra el DHCP. Desde hace unos dias, se esta notando que todos los
 equipos quedan sin navegacion, y es necesario reiniciarlos para que puedan
 volver a navegar.

 Los mas raro es que el correo sigue fucionandoles sin problema durante ese
 lapso, asi que no es que se caiga en enlace de red.  Es como si solo fallara
 la navegacion, pero al reiniciar las estaciones vuelven a navegar, asi que
 el proxy se supone que esta bien.

 Alguno de ustedes ha tenido una experiencia similar?

 El switch que usamos no es administrable, asi que no se como descartar
 problemas en el mismo.

 http://www.trendnet.com/products/proddetail.asp?prod=265_TE100-S16Epluscat=114
Pueden ser en principio 2 cosas.

Los trendnet son excelentes equipos.
me suena a un problema de DNS, la configuracion del correo en los
clientes cuando apunta al server POP3/IMAP esta con una IP o un FQDN
(ej: mail.dominio.com)?  si tiene una IP y no pierde conectividad,
y en cambio los navegadores dependen de /etc/resolv.conf para navegar
y el DNS no esta funcionando tienes un problema alli.

Comprueba que los DNS que tienes estan funcionando y resuelven como se
debe. Si el problema era ese, puedes usar los de
http://www.opendns.com o instalarte un bind9 que en el paquete de
Debian ya funciona como DNSCache y resuelve con los DNS Root de
internet, no usa los de tu proveedor.

Lo otro que tenia pensado es que tuvieras puertos cerrados o algo por el estilo.
De todas maneras revisar los logs no esta de mas.

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Re: atascado con un script menu

2008-08-09 Thread angel
El mar, 05-08-2008 a las 19:24 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:
 Hola a todos.
 
 Quiero hacer un script que presente un menu en la consola (elije 1, 2,
 3), y añadirle la funcionalidad de un timeout, el cual trancurridos
 unos segudos elija una opción por defecto.
 
 Lo estoy intentando en Perl (pero si se puede hacer en bash o incluso
 C me viene bien, la idea es que se pueda ejecutar en debian), pero me
 estoy liando.
 
 El menú lo tengo claro, un stdin y unos cuantos if, el problema es que
 no sé como implementar el timeout.
 
 Buscando por el google, he leido que para realizar menus interactivos
 no se utiliza el stdin ya que no permite automatizar el proceso de
 entrada de datos.
 
 Mirando en cpan he encontrado cosas como expect, send, spawn y en C he
 visto que la librerias tipo conio y iostream me pueden venir bien.
 
 El caso es que cada vez me estoy perdiendo más y por eso os pido ayuda.
 
 Ni que decir tiene que todo esto es porque estoy muy justito en
 programación.
 
 ¿Por donde he de enfocar la cosa?
 

En perl es muy simple
utiliza el SIGNAL alarm()
hay muchos ejemplos en la web, si no encontras despues te puedo pasar
alguno
Y por favor NO hagas crossposting (estas mandando lo mismo a la lista de
ubuntu)

 De momento solo he llegado a esto:
 
 #!/usr/bin/perl
 use Term::ANSIColor;
 
 imprime_menu();
 
 close(STDIN);
 print STDOUT Por favor elije una opción:\n;
 $input = STDIN;
 print STDOUT The number is $input\n;
 chop($input);  
 
 if ($input =='') {
   sleep 5;
   print 'vacio!';
   print Han pasado 5 valiosos segundos!!\n;
   $input = 5\r;
   print $input;
   close(STDIN);
 } 
 if ($input == '1') {
   print 'opcion1!';
 }
 if ($input eq '2') {
 print \nopcion2\n;
 } 
 
 Gracias
 
 
 


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Re: Consulta sobre proxy reverso con Apache2

2008-08-09 Thread Daniel Bareiro
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El sábado 09 de agosto del 2008 a las 19:23:45 -0300,
Carlos Miranda escribió:

 Tengo un Apache que sirve localmente varios virtual hosts donde me
 gustaría agregar otros virtual hosts que se encuentren en otro
 servidor Apache de mi red interna. Para ello agregué un archivo
 reverse-sites.freesoftware.org en sites-available donde agrupar todos
 los virtual hosts que se encuentren en el otro servidor, lo habilité,
 agregué los módulos proxy y rewrite y usé una configuración como
 esta:


 
 Not Found. The requested URL / was not found on this server.

 ¿Puede ser que me esté faltando algo? Me habían hecho un comentario que
 puede haber problemas si el mismo Apache está sirviendo sitios
 localmente.

 El .conf de ese VirtualHosta esta solamente en
 /etc/apache2/sites-available/  ?

Sí.

 le hiciste un
 ~:# ln -s /etc/apach2/site-available/everse-sites.freesoftware.org
 /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/

Sí, a eso me refería cuando decía que lo había habilitado.

Gracias por responder.

Saludos,
Daniel

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Svn Actualizar sitio

2008-08-09 Thread Manolet Gmail
Hola, tengo un servidor dedicado con cpanel donde tambien cuento con
un servidor svn para todos mis repositorios.

Una de las cuentas tiene un sitio que quiero actualizar
automaticamente con cada commit, asi que edite el hook post-commit y
agregue esto:

/usr/bin/svn update /home/lugoherm/www/ --username XXX --password lXX

ejecute ./post-commit

actualizo el repo.

luego hice un commit pero no actualizo nada.

alguna idea?


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Como se une las partes de un fichero partido con Winrar en Debian

2008-08-09 Thread José Manuel (EB8CXW)

Hola a [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Me podéis indicar que paquete, programa,  me uniría  un fichero (en este 
caso comprimido), que esta partido en trozos con WinRar,  gracias de 
antemano.


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Si vas a escribir.. piensa en esto:
no digas nada que no sea mas precioso que el silencio!!!


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Re: Como se une las partes de un fichero partido con Winrar en Debian

2008-08-09 Thread Maximiliano Marin Bustos
On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 7:09 PM, José Manuel (EB8CXW) 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hola a [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Me podéis indicar que paquete, programa,  me uniría  un fichero (en este
 caso comprimido), que esta partido en trozos con WinRar,  gracias de
 antemano.

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 Un saludo,
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 Si vas a escribir.. piensa en esto:
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Nada mas escribes unrar e archivo.part1.rar y solo junta las partes :D

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Re: Como se une las partes de un fichero partido con Winrar en Debian

2008-08-09 Thread Santiago José López Borrazás

El 10/08/2008 1:09, José Manuel (EB8CXW) escribió:

Hola a [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Me podéis indicar que paquete, programa,  me uniría  un fichero (en este 
caso comprimido), que esta partido en trozos con WinRar,  gracias de 
antemano.


Con el mismo rar lo puedes hacer, mira en el manual del rar, que tienes una 
opción para partirlos en cachos.


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Re: Consulta sobre proxy reverso con Apache2

2008-08-09 Thread Miguel Da Silva - Centro de Matemática

Daniel Bareiro escreveu:

El sábado 09 de agosto del 2008 a las 19:23:45 -0300,
Carlos Miranda escribió:


Tengo un Apache que sirve localmente varios virtual hosts donde me
gustaría agregar otros virtual hosts que se encuentren en otro
servidor Apache de mi red interna. Para ello agregué un archivo
reverse-sites.freesoftware.org en sites-available donde agrupar todos
los virtual hosts que se encuentren en el otro servidor, lo habilité,
agregué los módulos proxy y rewrite y usé una configuración como
esta:





Not Found. The requested URL / was not found on this server.

¿Puede ser que me esté faltando algo? Me habían hecho un comentario que
puede haber problemas si el mismo Apache está sirviendo sitios
localmente.



El .conf de ese VirtualHosta esta solamente en
/etc/apache2/sites-available/  ?


Sí.


le hiciste un
~:# ln -s /etc/apach2/site-available/everse-sites.freesoftware.org
/etc/apache2/sites-enabled/


Sí, a eso me refería cuando decía que lo había habilitado.

Gracias por responder.

Saludos,
Daniel



Habilitaste el módulo mod_proxy_http?

Otra consulta... probaste usar apenas una regla de re-escritura de URL?

En un servidor que adminitro hay reglas con el formato:

RewriteRule exp1http://servidor2.com/ [P]

Y esto ha funcionado.

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Re: traducción de security/

2008-08-09 Thread Roger Orellana
   OK, quedo a la espera de cualquier información. Mientras tanto,
investigo un poco los DSA ;-)


   Saludos,

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Re: Consulta sobre proxy reverso con Apache2

2008-08-09 Thread Daniel Bareiro
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El sábado 09 de agosto del 2008 a las 21:36:52 -0300,
Miguel Da Silva - Centro de Matemática escribió:

 Tengo un Apache que sirve localmente varios virtual hosts donde me
 gustaría agregar otros virtual hosts que se encuentren en otro
 servidor Apache de mi red interna. Para ello agregué un archivo
 reverse-sites.freesoftware.org en sites-available donde agrupar
 todos los virtual hosts que se encuentren en el otro servidor, lo
 habilité, agregué los módulos proxy y rewrite y usé una
 configuración como esta:

 Habilitaste el módulo mod_proxy_http?

Había habilitado el proxy pero no el proxy_http. Por lo que veo, si
habilitamos este último con a2enmod, automáticamente se habilita el
módulo proxy.

 Otra consulta... probaste usar apenas una regla de re-escritura de URL?

 En un servidor que adminitro hay reglas con el formato:

 RewriteRule exp1http://servidor2.com/ [P]

Sí, la que puse en el modelo de archivo de configuración que mandé en el
mensaje inicial del hilo:

RewriteRule ^/(.*)$ http://host.dominio/$1 [P]

De todas maneras, esto no era suficiente ya que me estaba faltando la
linea:

RewriteEngine On

Con esto y dejando todo lo demás igual funciona de maravilla.

Gracias por responder, Miguel.

Saludos,
Daniel

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Re: Program för EDA

2008-08-09 Thread Erik Aronsson
 Letar efter ett bra program för EDA. Kanske någon här
 på listan som kan rekommendera något?

 De jag hittills hittat och som verkar mest intressanta
 är gEDA och KiCad.

 Har du stött på de här:
 http://www.staticfreesoft.com/
 http://www.opencollector.org/

Eagle från Cadsoft[1] finns i en gratisversion som duger gott att göra det
mesta. Begränsingen är antal lager och storlek på kort. (Finns för både
Linux och windows)

För avr finns paketen gcc-avr avr-libc avrdude. Det finns fler om du söker
i repositoryt efter avr. Länkar en guide som kanske ger dig lite hjälp.
[2]

//erik

1. http://www.cadsoft.de/
2. http://projekt.auml.se/homeautomation:guides:devenv

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Re: Backport frågor

2008-08-09 Thread Peter Krefting

Mikael Rudberg:

1) Finns det nån apt-get command line för att uppgradera ett stable packet 
till ett från backports? Jag kollade på backports.org och där sa dom att man 
skulle använda pinning men det verkar lite bökit att underhålla.


Du kan ange vilken distribution du vill installera paket från på apt-gets 
kommandorad:


  apt-get -t etch-backports install foobar

eller

  apt-get install foobar/etch-backports

*men*, detta ändrar inte standarddistribution för paketet, vilket innebär 
att du inte automatiskt får uppdateringar. För att det ska fungera måste du 
nåla fast (pin) paketet i inställningarna.


2) Om man använder sig av backports packet och senare vill göra en 
dist-upgrade till t.ex. lenny kommer backports paketen automatiskt 
uppgraderas till den som finns i lenny eller måste man avinstallera 
backports paketen ?


Backportsversionen bygger på Lenny-versionen med versionsnumret sänkt ett 
steg, vilket innebär att det automatiskt kommer uppgraderas till versionen 
från Lenny när det släpps.


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Re: Program för EDA

2008-08-09 Thread Peter Carlsson

Erik Aronsson skrev:

Letar efter ett bra program för EDA. Kanske någon här
på listan som kan rekommendera något?

De jag hittills hittat och som verkar mest intressanta
är gEDA och KiCad.


Har du stött på de här:
http://www.staticfreesoft.com/
http://www.opencollector.org/


Eagle från Cadsoft[1] finns i en gratisversion som duger gott att göra det
mesta. Begränsingen är antal lager och storlek på kort. (Finns för både
Linux och windows)

För avr finns paketen gcc-avr avr-libc avrdude. Det finns fler om du söker
i repositoryt efter avr. Länkar en guide som kanske ger dig lite hjälp.
[2]

//erik

1. http://www.cadsoft.de/
2. http://projekt.auml.se/homeautomation:guides:devenv


Stort tack för länkarna. Särskilt den sista var riktigt
intressant och jag ska ta en närmare titt.

/Peter


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Receptor de TV USB MultiLaser (Yuan?)no Debian

2008-08-09 Thread Vinicius De Mario

Meu Debian (Lenny):
Linux vdm-deb 2.6.25-2-686 #1 SMP Fri Jul 18 17:46:56 UTC 2008 i686 
GNU/Linux


Estou com um receptor de TV Digital da Multilaser (DVB-T), cujo firmware 
é da Yuan.

Digitando lsusb, tenho:
Bus 005 Device 004: ID 1164:0918 YUAN High-Tech Development Co., Ltd

Pesquisei no site da Yuan e aparenta ser o modelo Yuan PD300 DVB-T mini
Pesquisando no site www.linuxtv.org, descobri que o modelo acima consta 
como funcional no linux e necessita do modulo do kernel:


dvb-usb-dtt200u.ko

Verifiquei na configuração do meu kernel (2.6.25-2) e este modulo está 
presente, assim como diversos outros.

Em /var/syslog tenho:
Aug  9 16:31:35 vdm-deb kernel: [  790.322666] usb 5-6: new high speed USB 
device using ehci_hcd and address 7
Aug  9 16:31:35 vdm-deb kernel: [  790.375189] usb 5-6: configuration #1 chosen 
from 1 choice
Aug  9 16:31:35 vdm-deb kernel: [  790.376275] usb 5-6: New USB device found, 
idVendor=1164, idProduct=0918
Aug  9 16:31:35 vdm-deb kernel: [  790.376285] usb 5-6: New USB device strings: 
Mfr=0, Product=0, SerialNumber=0

Bom, parece que o dispositivo não é reconhecido e não sobe o módulo, saida 
parcial de lsmod:
ehci_hcd   32620  0 
uhci_hcd   22352  0 
usbcore   130032  4 usbhid,ehci_hcd,uhci_hcd



Alguem tem alguma experiência com este receptor para trocar uma idéia?

obrigado

Vinicius


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Converter arquivo para .amv

2008-08-09 Thread Eduardo Santos Nascimento
Olá Pessoal

Comprei um mp4, mas ele só reproduz arquivos de vídeo no formato .amv.
Existe alguma maneira de converter arquivos de vídeo para o formato .amv ?

Obrigado


Re: Ajudem,... nao consigo ver o erro do shaper

2008-08-09 Thread Fabiano Pires
Se bem me recordo, você não pode limitar o download, apenas o upload (então
em um firewall de duas portas, para limitar o download para a rede interna
você tem de controlar o upload da interface interna ou utilizar o IMQ.

Fabiano

2008/8/8 gunix [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Galera,

 to colocando meu controle de banda funcionando.
 To com este problema e nao consigo echergar o que fiz de errado.

 Criei os arquivos limitando minha mauqina, porem a banda liberada pra mim
 nao corresponde ao que esta no arquivo.

 cbq-0002.r61-ti01-wlan-in
 ==
 DEVICE=eth0,100Mbit,10Mbit
 RATE=600Kbit
 WEIGHT=60Kbit
 PRIO=5
 RULE=10.1.1.1
 BOUNDED=yes
 ISOLATED=yes

 cbq-0002.r61-ti01-wlan-out
 ===
 DEVICE=eth0,100Mbit,10Mbit
 RATE=600Kbit
 WEIGHT=60Kbit
 PRIO=5
 RULE=10.1.1.1,
 BOUNDED=yes
 ISOLATED=yes

 Porem nao esta sendo respeitado o que esta no arquivo.
 Meu download chega somente em 40 Kpbs
 E o upload ta normal. no caso mesmo limitando a 600 kpbs ele ta cehgando a
 256 que o maximo do velox.

 Alguem pode me dizer o que pode ta havendo ocm o download?

 Att
 Gustavo

 PS Se eu der stop no shaper volta o normal




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Problemas impressoras locais LTSP5

2008-08-09 Thread gunix
Galera,

estou com um probleminha bam...
Implantei um cliente co ltsp5 para poder sentir as difereças entre o mesmo e
o ltsp4-2.
Bom de cara, tive problemas com as impressoras locais.

Se eu for localmente e digitas echo TESTE  /dev/lp0 consigo imprimir
normalmente.
Mas se colocar o cups para imprimir por jet direct ele nao funciona.

Li em uma documentacao, ... nao me recordo qual, que o pacote lp_server for
removido da imagem do debian. Por nao ser um pacote Livre. E que o ubuntu
finciona perfeitamente.

Porem li uma documentacao naweb que é possivel colocar rodando o lp_server
no 5 instalando o lp_server e ajustand o arquivos de conf do ltsp.
Alguem ja pasosu por este prolema e ja conseguiu resolver o problema? Nao
quero usar o ubuntu... se alguem tiver um help agradeço.

Att
Gustavo


Re: Converter arquivo para .amv

2008-08-09 Thread Fabian (Bian) Corrêa Marques
Olá Pessoal
Olá Eduardo

[...] Existe alguma maneira de converter arquivos de vídeo para o formato
.amv ?
Procurando no google[0] encontrei um tutorial no VivaOLinux[1]

[0]
http://www.google.com.br/search?hl=pt-BRq=ffmpeg+avi+amvbtnG=Pesquisa+Googlemeta=
[1]
http://www.vivaolinux.com.br/artigo/Convertendo-de-AVI-para-AMV-nativamente

Abraço
Fabian (Bian) Corrêa Marques
http://biangaucho.com.br


Re: Drag n drop iceweasel X openoffice

2008-08-09 Thread Tiago Saboga
On Fri, Aug 08, 2008 at 10:53:29AM -0300, Rafael Gomes Dantas wrote:
 No linux vc consegue copiar e colar, mas acho que não usando Drag'n'Drop.

Consigo copiar e colar com drag'n'drop do konqueror para o OO, mas não
do iceweasel, o que parece descartar a hipótese seguinte:

 Talvez seja uma coisa do window manager/desktop manager, ou do proprio X...


[]s,

Tiago.


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Re: Receptor de TV USB MultiLaser (Yuan?)no Debian

2008-08-09 Thread Paulino Kenji Sato
2008/8/9 Vinicius De Mario [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Meu Debian (Lenny):
 Linux vdm-deb 2.6.25-2-686 #1 SMP Fri Jul 18 17:46:56 UTC 2008 i686
 GNU/Linux

 Estou com um receptor de TV Digital da Multilaser (DVB-T), cujo firmware é
 da Yuan.

Você quer usar esse adaptador para assistir a TV Digital Brasileira?
Como todo mundo sabe, o sistema brasileiro de TV digital segue o
esquema de modulação do sistema japonês,
tendo algumas diferenças em relação ao DVB-T.
Dependendo de como um adaptador desses e implementado, pode receber o
sinal do sistema brasileiro, ou qualquer outro.
Se comprou ele com sendo para o sistema brasileiro, então, todo o
processamento do sinal (demodulação) e decodificação do codec e feito
pelo computadar, ou seja, esse adaptador e só um sintonizador e um
conversor ADC de alta velocidade.

 Digitando lsusb, tenho:
 Bus 005 Device 004: ID 1164:0918 YUAN High-Tech Development Co., Ltd


 dvb-usb-dtt200u.ko


Pelo modinfo desse modulo, não suporta o ID acima mencionado (1164:0918)

E um
grep 1164.*0918 /lib/modules/`uname -r`/modules.usbmap
não mostra nenhum modulo associado a esse ID.


 Alguem tem alguma experiência com este receptor para trocar uma idéia?
Não sei se tem algum realmente interessado em SBTVD e Linux.
Por exemplo, um grupo de estudos para analisar a compatibilidade
desses adaptadores USB ou PCI no Linux e outros sistemas operacionais
abertos.


TV Digital ainda não chegou por aqui.

No windows, esses adaptadores somente sintonizam o 'canal' 1seg, de
baixa resolução (352x244), para ser usando em receptores portateis de
tela pequena. Ou seja. não pega o 'canal' de alta resolução.


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Re: [OT] Debian stickers in India

2008-08-09 Thread Thomas Preud'homme
Saturday 09 August 2008, Santanu Chatterjee wrote :
 Hello Everybody,

 This is probably a bit off topic but I don't know where else to ask.
 Does anyone here know where can I get Debian Stickers (you know,
 with the Debian swirl) in India... anybody who sells such stickers?

 I really want to stick that to my laptop :-)

 Regards,
 Santanu Chatterjee

Why don't buy stickers online ? Look at the misc section on debian 
website (http://www.debian.org/misc/merchandise)

Regards,

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Re: [OT] Debian stickers in India

2008-08-09 Thread Jos Collin
You have to order it online from Debian shop.

http://www.debianshop.com/

But it will not be delivered in India, I think.
Anyway, If you have someone in United States, you can order it by giving
his/her address as the shipping address.

Also if you are interested in free software why can't you donate the amount,
which you pay for the sticker to fsf.org?

- Jos Collin

On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 11:20 AM, Santanu Chatterjee [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

 Hello Everybody,

 This is probably a bit off topic but I don't know where else to ask.
 Does anyone here know where can I get Debian Stickers (you know,
 with the Debian swirl) in India... anybody who sells such stickers?

 I really want to stick that to my laptop :-)

 Regards,
 Santanu Chatterjee


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Re: what's the best IDE for C programming in Debian?

2008-08-09 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2008-08-09 07:09 +0200, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:

 But emacs I've used for writing code. Not a lot of code, but enough to
 get the basic stuff wired in. I also use it as a general purpose
 editor (it's my default editor in mutt, for example, with it's own
 .emacs just for mutt, so I don't load up a bunch of unneeded stuff.

As a believing member of the Church of Emacs I have to step in here and
accuse you of severe abuse. ;-) Your habit is very inconvenient and
clumsy, really.  The Right Thing is to put (server-start) in your .emacs
and use emacsclient as $EDITOR.  There's no need to start more than one
instance of Emacs!

Sven


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Re: New Debian Install Blackscreen

2008-08-09 Thread Mumia W..

On 08/08/2008 09:57 PM, Taahir wrote:

I am a fairly new linux user, and have recently installed Debian on its own hard
disk in what will eventually become a dual-boot system.  The Windows drive is
currently not connected, so that isn't a factor.  My graphics card is an nvidia
8800 gts.

My problem is that when I start up Debian, I get the initialization screen, 
which
runs fully, and disappears just after GNOME starts up.  I then get what I think
is a password-prompt beep from the motherboard, but the monitor remains off,
which is how it normally handles being given an incorrect resolution.

I can, however, successfully log into the single-user root option that grub 
gives
me, and get a fully functioning terminal.  My question is how to go about 
setting
GNOME into VGA (or some low resolution) through the terminal.

Thanks in advance,



Go into a virtual console by doing Control-Alt-F2 on the keyboard. You 
should get a text mode screen that will allow you to log in. After 
you've logged in, you can edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf to use another driver, 
e.g. vesa. First copy xorg.conf to a backup file:


cd /etc/X11
cp xorg.conf xorg.conf.bak

You didn't say what distribution of Debian you're using, but what you do 
to xorg.conf differs with the distribution.



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Re: what's the best IDE for C programming in Debian?

2008-08-09 Thread Ron Johnson

On 08/09/08 01:19, Sven Joachim wrote:

On 2008-08-09 07:09 +0200, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:


But emacs I've used for writing code. Not a lot of code, but enough to
get the basic stuff wired in. I also use it as a general purpose
editor (it's my default editor in mutt, for example, with it's own
.emacs just for mutt, so I don't load up a bunch of unneeded stuff.


As a believing member of the Church of Emacs I have to step in here and
accuse you of severe abuse. ;-) Your habit is very inconvenient and
clumsy, really.  The Right Thing is to put (server-start) in your .emacs
and use emacsclient as $EDITOR.  There's no need to start more than one
instance of Emacs!


That seems redundant, since Emacs is the OS, and thus is running 
soon after POST.


Does that age me?  Emacs-as-OS comments just don't have the same 
impact when using a 2GB AMD 64X2 machine as they on a 8MB Sun3...


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can be a healthy motivator, but each has the ability to turn a
good scientist into a bad one; and in some cases, they can turn
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Re: New Debian Install Blackscreen

2008-08-09 Thread Ron Johnson

On 08/09/08 00:32, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
[snip]


there are several ways to go about this. What you need to do first,
I think, is find out which video driver is trying to run that
card. Realise that the 8xxx series cards are having lots of trouble
with the nvidia drivers. I've given up on getting decent 2d
performance for now and moved back to the nv driver. But that's
another story. 


I think that's because they don't have internal frame buffers, but 
are strongly tuned towards DX10 performance.


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Jefferson LA  USA

Scientists are people, too.  IOW, they also crave power, money,
respect, and influence, and they also fear for their jobs. Each
can be a healthy motivator, but each has the ability to turn a
good scientist into a bad one; and in some cases, they can turn
a good scientist into a charlatan.
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Re: Using Logitech Quickcam on Debian 4.0

2008-08-09 Thread Shachar Or
On Saturday 09 August 2008 08:14, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
 On Sat, Aug 09, 2008 at 11:37:47AM +0800, Bret Busby wrote:
  On Sat, 9 Aug 2008, Shachar Or wrote:
  there is both a gspca-source and gspca-modules-... packages. IIRC, the
  spca5xx is being replaced upstream...
 
  All this talk about spca... Isn't there a quickcam specific driver? I
  know there is... qc-usb-source is the package. I used for some logitech
  quickcam some time ago.
 
  That's what I thought, when I was reading the list of packages found by
  Synaptic, when I searched for webcam.
 
  However, ... we are all of differing levels of Debian system
  administration competency, and I rely on packages being ready to go -
  either using Synaptic to download and install a package, and then
  expecting for it to be ready to use, or, using apt-get install, or,
  downloading a package and using dpkg -i . But, not having to compile and
  build a package.
 
  I found
  The qc-usb-source package is a skeleton for creating a kernel module
  to drive Logitech's QuickCam Express webcam and other webcams with
  similar chipsets.
  and
  qc-usb-utils
  Utility programs for the qc-usb kernel module
  Utilities to tweak paramters of your QuickCam Express or similar
  webcam. These programs are completely useless without a
  qc-usb-modules package.
 
  That sounds like that needs a kernel build to use - much too advanced
  for me.

 no no not at all. you can use module assistant, I'd bet.I just
 checked, it is one of the packages you can build with
 module-assistant.

 at a minimum, you can do:

 aptitude install module-assistant
 m-a update
 m-a prepare
 m-a a-i qc-usb

 if all goes well, you'll be done.

 module-assistant also has a curses interface you can play with. Be
 sure to check out /usr/share/doc/module-assistant/HOWTO

 it's very easy.

Very.

 A

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Re: [OT] Debian stickers in India

2008-08-09 Thread Santanu Chatterjee
Hello Thomas and Jos,

Thanks for your replies.

I started with the URLs suggested by you http://www.debian.org/misc/merchandise
(Thomas Preud'homme) and http://www.debianshop.com (Jos Collin) but they seem to
require credit card for any purchase. But I don't use any credit card
or online money
transfer (I am kind of paranoid about these things).

Anyways, starting with these links I got to a site called
http://openranger.org.
They offer cash on delivery option, and the debian sticker they sell looks cool
too (just the right size for a smallish laptop).
So I ordered from them. Let's see what happens.

In the meantime, I am looking at http://www.debian.org/events/material#stickers
and am trying to make one myself :-)


Jos Collin:
 Also if you are interested in free software why can't you donate the amount,
 which you pay for the sticker to fsf.org?

Donation (whatever little I can) has never been any problem. Only thing is that
I don't use a Credit Card (or any kind of online money transactions). Instead I
do whatever I can to spread the spirit of Free Software among my students and
friends.
Occasionally I also file bug reports and send a patch to some project I care
about. That way I try to pay back a little bit to the community that means so
much to me.

Regards,
Santanu Chatterjee


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Re: New Debian Install Blackscreen

2008-08-09 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, Aug 09, 2008 at 02:46:44AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
 On 08/09/08 00:32, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
 [snip]

 there are several ways to go about this. What you need to do first,
 I think, is find out which video driver is trying to run that
 card. Realise that the 8xxx series cards are having lots of trouble
 with the nvidia drivers. I've given up on getting decent 2d
 performance for now and moved back to the nv driver. But that's
 another story. 

 I think that's because they don't have internal frame buffers, but are 
 strongly tuned towards DX10 performance.

I wouldn't know about that. The nvnews thread about sucky drivers for
the 8xxx cards is quite long now. Some people seem to be getting
improved performance out of 177 beta, but some people seem to be
getting no improvement at all. 

I was playing around with fun stuff... compositing and so forth but
have subsequently given up... just a distraction anyway. I honestly
thought that nv wouldn't do xrandr and dual head. I was wrong. I'm
happy now. I've turned off all the glitzy stuff and gotten back to
work. 

I suppose nouveau might fix some of that. When they claim even
rudimentary support for the series, I'll try it out. 

I sort of regret buying the card. I knew there were problems with it,
but figured it wouldn't be that big a deal and the fix would be out
sooner or later. shrug.

A



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Re: what's the best IDE for C programming in Debian?

2008-08-09 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, Aug 09, 2008 at 08:19:14AM +0200, Sven Joachim wrote:
 On 2008-08-09 07:09 +0200, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
 
  But emacs I've used for writing code. Not a lot of code, but enough to
  get the basic stuff wired in. I also use it as a general purpose
  editor (it's my default editor in mutt, for example, with it's own
  .emacs just for mutt, so I don't load up a bunch of unneeded stuff.
 
 As a believing member of the Church of Emacs I have to step in here and
 accuse you of severe abuse. ;-)

please do!

 Your habit is very inconvenient and
 clumsy, really.  The Right Thing is to put (server-start) in your .emacs
 and use emacsclient as $EDITOR.  There's no need to start more than one
 instance of Emacs!

but will those instance of emacsclient start up with their own version
of .emacs tailored to that specific use? If so, then I'm all for
it. (I know, the proof is in the execution)

A


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Re: New Debian Install Blackscreen

2008-08-09 Thread Richard Möhn
On Sat, Aug 09, 2008 at 01:08:37AM -0500, Mumia W.. wrote:
 On 08/08/2008 09:57 PM, Taahir wrote:
 I am a fairly new linux user, and have recently installed Debian on its 
 own hard
 disk in what will eventually become a dual-boot system.  The Windows drive 
 is
 currently not connected, so that isn't a factor.  My graphics card is an 
 nvidia
 8800 gts.
 
 My problem is that when I start up Debian, I get the initialization 
 screen, which
 runs fully, and disappears just after GNOME starts up.  I then get what I 
 think
 is a password-prompt beep from the motherboard, but the monitor remains 
 off,
 which is how it normally handles being given an incorrect resolution.
 
 I can, however, successfully log into the single-user root option that 
 grub gives
 me, and get a fully functioning terminal.  My question is how to go about 
 setting
 GNOME into VGA (or some low resolution) through the terminal.
 
 Thanks in advance,
 
 
 Go into a virtual console by doing Control-Alt-F2 on the keyboard. You 
 should get a text mode screen that will allow you to log in. After 
 you've logged in, you can edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf to use another driver, 
 e.g. vesa. First copy xorg.conf to a backup file:
 
 cd /etc/X11
 cp xorg.conf xorg.conf.bak
 
 You didn't say what distribution of Debian you're using, but what you do 
 to xorg.conf differs with the distribution.
 
I don't think, that this will work.  I had the same problem and the
only possibility to log in was in the single-user-mode.

If you are running etch, it is possible to configure the graphic
settings with
dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
I think.
With the more unstable distributions you have to edit the
/etc/X11/xorg.configure.

Nice greetings

Richard


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Re: Any isencrypted function available?

2008-08-09 Thread Todd A. Jacobs
On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 09:12:33AM +0900, buyoppy wrote:

  Is there any 'isencrypted 'function available on Debian which judges
  whether some data is encrypted or not?

Unless the ciphertext contains some sort of standard header (e.g. *.gpg
files), then no. The file utility will report file types for anything it
knows about, such as pgp/gpg messages, but will report unmarked
ciphertext as data or text in most cases.

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Re: what's the best IDE for C programming in Debian?

2008-08-09 Thread Antonio Diaz


  Hi,

  I have been using Vim and Emacs for years but I've to admit that 
Netbeans and Eclipse are really great, specialized IDEs for these kind 
of tasks. I'd try some of them. For example, last two years I've been 
developing in C++ for my company and Netbeans has all you need and more: 
intelligentsense, subversion integration (amazing!!),  great editor, 
. I don't know, simply wonderful. Moreover, both Netbeans and Eclipse 
are free software. I hope it helps.







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Re: what's the best IDE for C programming in Debian?

2008-08-09 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2008-08-09 10:23 +0200, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:

 but will those instance of emacsclient start up with their own version
 of .emacs tailored to that specific use? If so, then I'm all for
 it. (I know, the proof is in the execution)

No, but why is there a need for it?  Probably you want a specific major
mode for editing mail, such as post-mode from Debian's post-el package.
If you have special needs, you put some code into the mode's hook.  All
this can be done from _one_ .emacs.

Sven


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USB to IDE Interfaces

2008-08-09 Thread Martin McCormick
I want to be able to connect various IDE drives to a Linux
system via USB port for backups, restores, and diagnostics such
as: Is this drive good for anything other than a paper weight?

I'd hate to buy an interface and find out I need some
special driver that only exists under Windows.

I have used dedicated USB devices that had IDE drives in
them and they worked fine all be it slo-o-owly on a USB2 port,
but this would be  different because each IDE drive is going to
be formatted differently and be anywhere from gigabytes to 40
megabytes in capacity.

If I understand things right, the IDE drive itself
registers its parameters so this may not be an issue and the
device should respond to mount, dd, and fdisk like any other
device.

I am hoping to upgrade the IDE drives on some older
Linux systems from 10 GB to larger and use the USB to IDE
converter to assist in transfering files and using the still
functional smaller drives as archival storage.

Any ideas and recommendations as to which interfaces are
good or which should be avoided are appreciated.

Thank you.

Martin McCormick WB5AGZ  Stillwater, OK 
Systems Engineer
OSU Information Technology Department Telecommunications Services Group


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Problems with an old nvidia 6100 GO

2008-08-09 Thread Nicolas FRANCOIS
Hi.

I have a laptop with the above mentioned GC, and have two big problems
with it :

1) if I use the proprietary driver (the nvidia one), when I boot, I see
a black screen. X (and gdm) starts OK, no mention of any error in the
Xorg.0.log file, but the screen is black. I can switch to a console (the
first I switch to goes red, but after another switch, it's OK), I can
even blindly login from the X console, but that's not what I would dream
of since the screen stays black !

2) if I use the free driver (the nv one), everything is fine... except
I don't have ANY access to OpenGL ! All applications requiring OpenGL
fail : games, blender... Kpovmodeler starts, but the graphic widgets show
an error message.

Can you help me on one of those two problems at least ?

Thanks.

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Re: Problems with an old nvidia 6100 GO

2008-08-09 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Sat August 9 2008, Nicolas FRANCOIS wrote:
 2) if I use the free driver (the nv one), everything is fine... except
 I don't have ANY access to OpenGL ! All applications requiring OpenGL
 fail : games, blender... Kpovmodeler starts, but the graphic widgets show
 an error message.

 Can you help me on one of those two problems at least ?

 Thanks.

I used this script, it makes it very easy..
just run ( from a alt-F1 terminal session)
#sgfxi -c 

once you have the right apps installed.

http://blog.creonfx.com/linux/how-to-install-nvidia-driver-on-2625-2-debian-kernel-with-xen



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Re: Benefits (and risks) of using Sid

2008-08-09 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Wed, Aug 06, 2008 at 20:01:46 -0700, Daniel Burrows wrote:

[ snip: a bit of goofing off ]

   I actually am curious to hear what people like about the program,
 because I'm (slowly) working out ideas for redesigning the interface
 and I don't want to accidentally break useful features.  Any breakage
 should be fully intentional, that's my motto.
 
   Hence my oh-so-subtle prodding...

Here is a list of my favorite aptitude-interactive-UI features (I run
Sid; many of them are probably less relevant for stable users):

- browsing the list of new packages, then clearing it

- the quick way to evaluate aptitude's proposals for resolving
  dependency conflicts during an upgrade

- the summary of the scheduled actions, especially the sorting in
  categories (upgraded, installed as a dependency, removed since no
  longer needed, etc.)

- Fine-grained control of installation of recommended and suggested
  packages: Before any scheduled action is carried out, I can look at
  the relevant list of recommended and suggested packages and decide
  which ones I want to install and if I want to mark any given one as
  automatic.

- quickly put a hold or a forbid-version on a package

- looking at changelogs before I let aptitude do something

- consulting apt-listbugs and apt-listchanges before things actually
  happen (I think that this one is the same in command-line use,
  though.)

- the limit view function combined with the powerful search patterns
  when I don't yet know which packages I need for $FEATURE

- quick traversal of dependency chains, forward and reverse, for the
  rare cases in which aptitude cannot figure out what to do by itself

Some very subjective ideas for possible improvements (not necessarily
simplifications of the UI, though):

- Sometimes it would be handy if I could fine-tune the aggressiveness of
  aptitude's conflict resolution behavior, i.e. when I notice that the
  normal U behavior leads to undesirable actions then I would like to
  be able to gradually move from safe-upgrade to full-upgrade
  behavior while I can see what is going to happen in the interactive
  interface. I could stop at the optimal point and would only have to
  fix a few things manually.

- I would like to be able to declare favorites among packages, to
  guide conflict resolution.

- It would be nice to have apt-cache policy-equivalent information in
  the versions display of packages. Right now I find it difficult to
  figure out in which archive a given version can be found. (As a matter
  of fact, that is the only reason I still use apt-cache, aside from
  very simple searches for which apt-cache's dumber-but-faster search
  function is sufficient.) 

I am also looking forward to seeing how the summer-of-code GTK+
interface will turn out; maybe that will help to bring the remaining
benighted souls towards the light... 

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Re: CIFS mount errors

2008-08-09 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Thu, Aug 07, 2008 at 12:01:31 +1000, Robert S wrote:
 I have several mounted CIFS shares to a Win XP Pro server.  This
 usually functions well for a few days/hours then I get input/output
 errors.  When I unmount them and try to reconnect I get:
 
 # mount -a -t cifs
 mount error 5 = Input/output error
 Refer to the mount.cifs(8) manual page (e.g.man mount.cifs)
 mount error 5 = Input/output error
 Refer to the mount.cifs(8) manual page (e.g.man mount.cifs)
 
 
 I get this in my syslog
 
 Aug  7 11:39:38 debian kernel:  CIFS VFS: Send error in SessSetup = -5
 Aug  7 11:39:38 debian kernel:  CIFS VFS: cifs_mount failed w/return code = -5
 Aug  7 11:39:38 debian kernel:  CIFS VFS: Send error in SessSetup = -5
 Aug  7 11:39:39 debian kernel:  CIFS VFS: cifs_mount failed w/return code = -5
 
 I hope somebody can help with this - its a very frustrating problem.
 I haven't found a fix anywhere on the net.

This is a stab in the dark: Did you already try to explicitly disable
the Linux extensions? Run

echo 0  /proc/fs/cifs/LinuxExtensionsEnabled

before you mount the share.

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Re: Router IPv6

2008-08-09 Thread Alex Samad
On Fri, Aug 08, 2008 at 10:16:30PM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
 On Sat, Aug 09, 2008 at 09:08:56AM +0700, Zaki Akhmad wrote:
  On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 4:25 AM, Alex Samad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   modprobe ipv6
  
  I can't see anything happens here
  # modprobe ipv6
 
 I suspect that what Alex is getting at is simple. to use ipv6 you

yep, sorry

 need, at a minimum, to have the module inserted. Then perhaps you
 should do a little research on using ipv6. Specific questions about
 problems you encounter while *trying* to us ipv6 will likely get you
 better results. 

have a look at ip6tables and ip especially ip -6 a and ip -6 r, packages to 
look at
radvd. Also sysctl -a | grep ipv6



 
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Re: Benefits (and risks) of using Sid

2008-08-09 Thread Nate Bargmann
* Florian Kulzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008 Aug 09 07:29 -0500]:
 On Wed, Aug 06, 2008 at 20:01:46 -0700, Daniel Burrows wrote:
 
 [ snip: a bit of goofing off ]
 
I actually am curious to hear what people like about the program,
  because I'm (slowly) working out ideas for redesigning the interface
  and I don't want to accidentally break useful features.  Any breakage
  should be fully intentional, that's my motto.
  
Hence my oh-so-subtle prodding...
 
 Here is a list of my favorite aptitude-interactive-UI features (I run
 Sid; many of them are probably less relevant for stable users):
 
 - browsing the list of new packages, then clearing it
 
 - the quick way to evaluate aptitude's proposals for resolving
   dependency conflicts during an upgrade
 
 - the summary of the scheduled actions, especially the sorting in
   categories (upgraded, installed as a dependency, removed since no
   longer needed, etc.)
 
 - Fine-grained control of installation of recommended and suggested
   packages: Before any scheduled action is carried out, I can look at
   the relevant list of recommended and suggested packages and decide
   which ones I want to install and if I want to mark any given one as
   automatic.
 
 - quickly put a hold or a forbid-version on a package
 
 - looking at changelogs before I let aptitude do something
 
 - consulting apt-listbugs and apt-listchanges before things actually
   happen (I think that this one is the same in command-line use,
   though.)
 
 - the limit view function combined with the powerful search patterns
   when I don't yet know which packages I need for $FEATURE
 
 - quick traversal of dependency chains, forward and reverse, for the
   rare cases in which aptitude cannot figure out what to do by itself

Excellent summary, Florian, and I found myself nodding that I've used
each and every one of these features on multiple occasions.

 Some very subjective ideas for possible improvements (not necessarily
 simplifications of the UI, though):
 
 - Sometimes it would be handy if I could fine-tune the aggressiveness of
   aptitude's conflict resolution behavior, i.e. when I notice that the
   normal U behavior leads to undesirable actions then I would like to
   be able to gradually move from safe-upgrade to full-upgrade
   behavior while I can see what is going to happen in the interactive
   interface. I could stop at the optimal point and would only have to
   fix a few things manually.

Nice.  That would be sweet.

 - I would like to be able to declare favorites among packages, to
   guide conflict resolution.

Yes!

 - It would be nice to have apt-cache policy-equivalent information in
   the versions display of packages. Right now I find it difficult to
   figure out in which archive a given version can be found. (As a matter
   of fact, that is the only reason I still use apt-cache, aside from
   very simple searches for which apt-cache's dumber-but-faster search
   function is sufficient.) 

Okay, here I'm out in left field as I don't know what apt-cache policy
would do.  I tend to avoid policy whenever I can.  ;-)

 I am also looking forward to seeing how the summer-of-code GTK+
 interface will turn out; maybe that will help to bring the remaining
 benighted souls towards the light...

What convinced me to use Aptitude back in 2000/01 or whenever was the
improved way packages were grouped and displayed.  Being informed of
new packages and then easily forgetting them has led me to discover
some things over the years that I would have missed.  To me the killer
function of Aptitude is being able to start at some arbitrary package
and work one's way through its dependency chain, either what it depends
on or what depends on it.

For the record, I've yet to use Aptitude in commandline mode as I
always use the UI.  I've nothing against a GUI package manager per se,
but I guess I'd rather reach for Aptitude since I now know it rather
than something else.  Synaptic was going to involve its own learning
curve that I didn't care to devote time to so I just open a term window
and fire up Aptitude.  Also, Aptitude does carry forward some of the
good aspects of dselect in the way the packages are presented.  This is
very much like the IDE thread where some philosophies of EMACS and Vim
are presented.  I can relate as far as Aptitude is concerned even
though I avoid both editors like the plague even though I spent a lot
of time last winter wanting to like EMACS.  Go figure.  :-/

- Nate 

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Re: Benefits (and risks) of using Sid

2008-08-09 Thread Damon L. Chesser
On Fri, 2008-08-08 at 22:31 -0700, Daniel Burrows wrote:
 On Fri, Aug 08, 2008 at 07:00:52PM -0400, Damon L. Chesser [EMAIL 
 PROTECTED] was heard to say:
  On Fri, 2008-08-08 at 06:58 -0700, Daniel Burrows wrote:
 One of my active anti-goals is making aptitude the best package
   manager after you enter 500 configuration options to enable all the
   useful features.  (hello, mutt)  The new code will be the default
   behavior, with configuration options to selectively re-enable old
   behavior for people who prefer it.  c.f. the change in the behavior
   of the installation commands several years ago.
   
 Daniel
  
  Daniel,
  
  I would suggest you use EMACS as a front end.
 
   Already been done, and by none less than Junichi Uekawa:
 
 http://www.netfort.gr.jp/~dancer/software/apt-mode.html
 
   Sadly, though, there do not appear to be Debian packages of it.
 
   Daniel

Impressive.  Currently I am running F9 on this box. (Don't hate me!  I
am just forcing myself to learn the RHEL way of thought, and I hate
every min. of it.)  But to be honest, This thread makes me want to
re-install Sid on this box (the one I use the most) just so I can poke
at aptitude ncurses again.  I hope you know that mostly I was poking fun
and not serious, except for the part about aptitude (ncurses) not
working the way I think, that is serious, but it reflects badly on my
short comings, not your code.  Thanks for taking the time to write it in
the first place and for upgrading it.  With you you guys, Vista would
feel warm and fuzzy.
 
 
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Re: Benefits (and risks) of using Sid

2008-08-09 Thread Damon L. Chesser
On Fri, 2008-08-08 at 01:05 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
 On 08/07/08 23:42, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
  On Thu, Aug 07, 2008 at 09:56:19PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
  On 08/07/08 20:20, s. keeling wrote:
  Damon L. Chesser [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
   On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 17:45 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
  On 08/07/08 17:14, Damon L. Chesser wrote:
  Displeasure?  Synaptic is brain dead simple, what's not to like?
  It's a GUI app?
   Very funny Ron.  Really.
  No, I think he was serious, and I agree with him.  Do you want
  your access to the pkging system to be borked when X is borked?
  Especially in this nvidia crazed age?
  I agree with the point you are trying to make, but best to:
  s/nvidia/ati
 
  More especially:
  s/nvidia/display manager/
 
  
  
  no kidding... have to debug why gdm (work machine, for the general
  user...) locks the machine hard when a user logs out... sheesh. I may
  have to teach people how to login properly. ;-O
 
 I put this at the bottom of my family members' .bashrc files.  Works 
 like a charm.
 
 if [ $TERM == linux ]; then
  startx
  exit
 fi
 
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Ron,

I like that.  Alleviates the need for a login manager at all and if all
win users snooping around would not even know what to type at the login:
prompt.  But does this not kill any vt's for that user?  ie,
cntrl-alt-F2, login, wham, GUI and not a term.

I am sitting here turning over diff. scenarios in my head, how to
accomplish them using this login script.  That is one of them.  I need
more time!  I don't have enough to play with.

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Aptitude oddity

2008-08-09 Thread Bob Cox
I have some packages on hold for a while and they have remained on hold
during several safe-upgrades.  Now, all of a sudden, aptitude wants to
upgrade two of them.

trantor:/home/bob# aptitude search ~ahold
ih  iceweasel- lightweight web browser based on Mozilla
ih  iceweasel-l10n-en-gb - English (Great Britain) language package for 
Iceweasel
ihA linux-image-2.6-686  - Linux 2.6 image on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/P4

trantor:/home/bob# aptitude safe-upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Reading extended state information
Initializing package states... Done
Reading task descriptions... Done
The following packages have been kept back:
  cupsys-driver-gutenprint libneon25
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  libmyspell3c2{u}
The following packages will be upgraded:
  iceweasel iceweasel-l10n-en-gb
2 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 2 not upgraded.
Need to get 0B/1268kB of archives. After unpacking 23.5MB will be freed.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n/?]

Does this look like a bug or am I missing something obvious?

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Re: Aptitude oddity

2008-08-09 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2008-08-09 17:11 +0200, Bob Cox wrote:

 I have some packages on hold for a while and they have remained on hold
 during several safe-upgrades.  Now, all of a sudden, aptitude wants to
 upgrade two of them.

 trantor:/home/bob# aptitude search ~ahold
 ih  iceweasel- lightweight web browser based on Mozilla
 ih  iceweasel-l10n-en-gb - English (Great Britain) language package for 
 Iceweasel
 ihA linux-image-2.6-686  - Linux 2.6 image on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/P4

 trantor:/home/bob# aptitude safe-upgrade
 Reading package lists... Done
 Building dependency tree
 Reading state information... Done
 Reading extended state information
 Initializing package states... Done
 Reading task descriptions... Done
 The following packages have been kept back:
   cupsys-driver-gutenprint libneon25
 The following packages will be REMOVED:
   libmyspell3c2{u}
 The following packages will be upgraded:
   iceweasel iceweasel-l10n-en-gb
 2 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 2 not upgraded.
 Need to get 0B/1268kB of archives. After unpacking 23.5MB will be freed.
 Do you want to continue? [Y/n/?]

 Does this look like a bug or am I missing something obvious?

It's a bug.  If aptitude safe-upgrade can't find any packages that are
_not_ on hold (or forbidden), it will try to upgrade packages that you
don't want to.  See http://bugs.debian.org/466228.

Sven


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Re: Aptitude oddity

2008-08-09 Thread Bob Cox
On Sat, Aug 09, 2008 at 17:21:32 +0200, Sven Joachim ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: 

 On 2008-08-09 17:11 +0200, Bob Cox wrote:
 
  I have some packages on hold for a while and they have remained on hold
  during several safe-upgrades.  Now, all of a sudden, aptitude wants to
  upgrade two of them.

[...]

 It's a bug.  If aptitude safe-upgrade can't find any packages that are
 _not_ on hold (or forbidden), it will try to upgrade packages that you
 don't want to.  See http://bugs.debian.org/466228.

Thank you Sven.  I had already done a safe-upgrade earlier today so that
explains why I encountered this bug for the first time.  (I did look
through the list of outstanding bugs but missed yours because it was a
long way down the list!)

Thanks again.

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Re: Benefits (and risks) of using Sid

2008-08-09 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Sat, Aug 09, 2008 at 02:11:43PM +0200, Florian Kulzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
was heard to say:
 - I would like to be able to declare favorites among packages, to
   guide conflict resolution.

  I was actually working on this a few weeks ago but I got sidetracked
by the fact that the GTK+ interface was starting to become interesting
to hack on...

  I was looking at something like this:

Aptitude::Resolver::Hints {
  // To reject a package completely, like pressing r on
  // all its versions:
  reject dselect;

  // To reject a particular version, like pressing r on it:
  reject foopackage=1.0.0.bad-version-number;

  // To always take a package over alternatives:
  accept aptitude-doc-cs;

  // To always take a particular package version over alternatives:
  accept linux-2.6/etch;

  // We can use patterns too.  Maybe we want to prefer German docs:
  accept ?name(.*-doc-de);

  // Weights can be adjusted, too.  Give a bonus to emacs and
  // a penalty to vi:
  +100 ?name(^emacs);
  -100 ?name(^vi);
};

  Daniel


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Re: Aptitude oddity

2008-08-09 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Sat, Aug 09, 2008 at 05:21:32PM +0200, Sven Joachim [EMAIL PROTECTED] was 
heard to say:
 It's a bug.  If aptitude safe-upgrade can't find any packages that are
 _not_ on hold (or forbidden), it will try to upgrade packages that you
 don't want to.  See http://bugs.debian.org/466228.

  That shouldn't happen now: the dependency resolver should refuse to
break holds unless you set Aptitude::ProblemResolver::Allow-Break-Holds
to true (it defaults to false).  There's one exception I know of, which
is that the greedy apt resolver will happily break holds (see #470035),
but that doesn't even apply in the case of safe-upgrade.  I would be
interested in adding -o Aptitude::CmdLine::Resolver-Debug=true to the
command line and seeing what you get.

  Daniel


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Re: Aptitude oddity

2008-08-09 Thread Bob Cox
On Sat, Aug 09, 2008 at 09:13:33 -0700, Daniel Burrows ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote: 

 On Sat, Aug 09, 2008 at 05:21:32PM +0200, Sven Joachim [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 was heard to say:
  It's a bug.  If aptitude safe-upgrade can't find any packages that are
  _not_ on hold (or forbidden), it will try to upgrade packages that you
  don't want to.  See http://bugs.debian.org/466228.
 
   That shouldn't happen now: the dependency resolver should refuse to
 break holds unless you set Aptitude::ProblemResolver::Allow-Break-Holds
 to true (it defaults to false).  There's one exception I know of, which
 is that the greedy apt resolver will happily break holds (see #470035),
 but that doesn't even apply in the case of safe-upgrade.  I would be
 interested in adding -o Aptitude::CmdLine::Resolver-Debug=true to the
 command line and seeing what you get.

I don't quite follow this Daniel, sorry.  Doing the above would start
aptitude in interactive mode?  I'm afraid I only use it from the command
line but can assure you that it is still trying to safe-upgrade two of
my three held packages as per my original post.

Aptitude version 0.4.11.8-1 with lenny.

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our bittorrent tracker's gone senile?

2008-08-09 Thread Shachar Or
rtorrent shows me this:

   debian-40r4a-amd64-DVD-1.iso
   1.0 / 4473.5 MB Rate:   0.0 /   0.0 KB Uploaded: 0.0 MB [ 
0%] --d --:-- [   R: 0.00]
  Tracker: [Failure reason Requested download is not authorized for use with 
this tracker.]
   debian-40r4a-amd64-netinst.iso
   1.5 /  147.0 MB Rate:   0.0 /   0.0 KB Uploaded: 0.0 MB [ 
1%] --d --:-- [   R: 0.00]
  Tracker: [Failure reason Requested download is not authorized for use with 
this tracker.]
   debian-40r4a-i386-DVD-2.iso
   0.0 / 4479.6 MB Rate:   0.0 /   0.0 KB Uploaded: 0.0 MB [ 
0%] --d --:-- [   R: 0.00]
  Tracker: [Failure reason Requested download is not authorized for use with 
this tracker.]
   debian-40r4a-i386-DVD-3.iso
   0.1 / 4320.1 MB Rate:   0.0 /   0.0 KB Uploaded: 0.0 MB [ 
0%] --d --:-- [   R: 0.00]
  Tracker: [Failure reason Requested download is not authorized for use with 
this tracker.]
   debian-40r4a-amd64-DVD-2.iso
   0.0 / 4460.9 MB Rate:   0.0 /   0.0 KB Uploaded: 0.0 MB [ 
0%] --d --:-- [   R: 0.00]
  Tracker: [Failure reason Requested download is not authorized for use with 
this tracker.]
   debian-40r4a-amd64-DVD-3.iso
   0.3 / 4171.3 MB Rate:   0.0 /   0.0 KB Uploaded: 0.0 MB [ 
0%] --d --:-- [   R: 0.00]
  Tracker: [Failure reason Requested download is not authorized for use with 
this tracker.]
   debian-40r4a-i386-DVD-1.iso
   0.1 / 4480.1 MB Rate:   0.0 /   0.0 KB Uploaded: 0.0 MB [ 
0%] --d --:-- [   R: 0.00]
  Tracker: [Failure reason Requested download is not authorized for use with 
this tracker.]

Now what is this?
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Problems with CUPS Error 401

2008-08-09 Thread Hartmut
Hi,

I have the following config file and got the followed error.
Has anyone a clue what the problem could be?
The .15 IP is a Windows XP Client. Why is the client not authorized
(cupsdSendError: 8 code=401 (Unauthorized))? Printing works perfect.

Thanks a lot,
Hartmut


--[cupsd.conf]--
LogLevel debug #warning
SystemGroup lpadmin

Listen localhost:631
Listen 172.16.0.104:631
Listen /var/run/cups/cups.sock

Browsing On
BrowseOrder allow,deny
BrowseAllow @LOCAL
BrowseAllow 172.16.0.0/24

DefaultAuthType Basic
DefaultEncryption Never # Required

Location /
  Require group printers
  Order allow,deny
  Allow localhost
  Allow 172.16.0.0/24
/Location

Location /admin
  Encryption Required
  Require user @SYSTEM
  Order allow,deny
  Allow localhost
  Allow 172.16.0.0/24
/Location

Location /admin/conf
  AuthType Basic
  Require user @SYSTEM
  Order allow,deny
  Allow localhost
  Allow 172.16.0.0/24
/Location

Policy default
  Limit Send-Document Send-URI Hold-Job Release-Job Restart-Job
Purge-Jobs Set-Job-Attributes Create-Job-Subscription Renew-Subscription
Cancel-Subscription Get-Notifications Reprocess-Job Cancel-Current-Job
Suspend-Current-Job Resume-Job CUPS-Move-Job
Require user @OWNER @SYSTEM
Order deny,allow
Allow 172.16.0.0/24
  /Limit

  Limit Pause-Printer Resume-Printer Set-Printer-Attributes
Enable-Printer Disable-Printer Pause-Printer-After-Current-Job
Hold-New-Jobs Release-Held-New-Jobs Deactivate-Printer Activate-Printer
Restart-Printer Shutdown-Printer Startup-Printer Promote-Job
Schedule-Job-After CUPS-Add-Printer CUPS-Delete-Printer CUPS-Add-Class
CUPS-Delete-Class CUPS-Accept-Jobs CUPS-Reject-Jobs CUPS-Set-Default
AuthType Basic
Require user @SYSTEM
Order deny,allow
Allow 172.16.0.0/24
  /Limit

  Limit Cancel-Job CUPS-Authenticate-Job
Require user @OWNER @SYSTEM
Order deny,allow
Allow 172.16.0.0/24
  /Limit

  Limit All
Order deny,allow
Allow 172.16.0.0/24
  /Limit
/Policy

Printcap /var/run/cups/printcap




and get the following error:

== /var/log/cups/access_log ==
172.16.0.15 - - [09/Aug/2008:18:21:18 +0200] POST
/printers/BrotherHL1650 HTTP/1.1 401 0 - -
172.16.0.15 - - [09/Aug/2008:18:21:18 +0200] POST
/printers/BrotherHL1650 HTTP/1.1 401 0 - -
172.16.0.15 - - [09/Aug/2008:18:21:18 +0200] POST
/printers/BrotherHL1650 HTTP/1.1 401 0 - -

== /var/log/cups/error_log ==
D [09/Aug/2008:18:21:18 +0200] cupsdCloseClient: 8
D [09/Aug/2008:18:21:18 +0200] cupsdAcceptClient: 8 from 172.16.0.15:631
(IPv4)
D [09/Aug/2008:18:21:18 +0200] cupsdReadClient: 8 POST
/printers/BrotherHL1650 HTTP/1.1
D [09/Aug/2008:18:21:18 +0200] cupsdAuthorize: No authentication data
provided.
D [09/Aug/2008:18:21:18 +0200] cupsdSendError: 8 code=401 (Unauthorized)
D [09/Aug/2008:18:21:18 +0200] cupsdCloseClient: 8
D [09/Aug/2008:18:21:18 +0200] cupsdAcceptClient: 8 from 172.16.0.15:631
(IPv4)
D [09/Aug/2008:18:21:18 +0200] cupsdReadClient: 8 POST
/printers/BrotherHL1650 HTTP/1.1
D [09/Aug/2008:18:21:18 +0200] cupsdAuthorize: username=hartmut
D [09/Aug/2008:18:21:18 +0200] Get-Printer-Attributes
http://172.16.0.104:631/printers/BrotherHL1650
D [09/Aug/2008:18:21:18 +0200] cupsdProcessIPPRequest: 8 status_code=0
(successful-ok)
D [09/Aug/2008:18:21:18 +0200] cupsdCloseClient: 8
D [09/Aug/2008:18:21:18 +0200] cupsdAcceptClient: 8 from 172.16.0.15:631
(IPv4)
D [09/Aug/2008:18:21:18 +0200] cupsdReadClient: 8 POST
/printers/BrotherHL1650 HTTP/1.1
D [09/Aug/2008:18:21:18 +0200] cupsdAuthorize: No authentication data
provided.
D [09/Aug/2008:18:21:18 +0200] cupsdSendError: 8 code=401 (Unauthorized)
D [09/Aug/2008:18:21:18 +0200] cupsdCloseClient: 8
D [09/Aug/2008:18:21:18 +0200] cupsdAcceptClient: 8 from 172.16.0.15:631
(IPv4)
D [09/Aug/2008:18:21:18 +0200] cupsdReadClient: 8 POST
/printers/BrotherHL1650 HTTP/1.1
D [09/Aug/2008:18:21:18 +0200] cupsdAuthorize: username=hartmut
D [09/Aug/2008:18:21:18 +0200] Get-Printer-Attributes
http://172.16.0.104:631/printers/BrotherHL1650
D [09/Aug/2008:18:21:18 +0200] cupsdProcessIPPRequest: 8 status_code=0
(successful-ok)
[...]



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Re: Aptitude oddity

2008-08-09 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Sat, Aug 09, 2008 at 06:17:47PM +0100, Bob Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard 
to say:
 On Sat, Aug 09, 2008 at 09:13:33 -0700, Daniel Burrows ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
 wrote: 
 
  On Sat, Aug 09, 2008 at 05:21:32PM +0200, Sven Joachim [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  was heard to say:
   It's a bug.  If aptitude safe-upgrade can't find any packages that are
   _not_ on hold (or forbidden), it will try to upgrade packages that you
   don't want to.  See http://bugs.debian.org/466228.
  
That shouldn't happen now: the dependency resolver should refuse to
  break holds unless you set Aptitude::ProblemResolver::Allow-Break-Holds
  to true (it defaults to false).  There's one exception I know of, which
  is that the greedy apt resolver will happily break holds (see #470035),
  but that doesn't even apply in the case of safe-upgrade.  I would be
  interested in adding -o Aptitude::CmdLine::Resolver-Debug=true to the
  command line and seeing what you get.
 
 I don't quite follow this Daniel, sorry.  Doing the above would start
 aptitude in interactive mode?  I'm afraid I only use it from the command
 line but can assure you that it is still trying to safe-upgrade two of
 my three held packages as per my original post.

  No, it'll spew large amounts of debugging information to your
terminal which you can then paste into a mail to me. :-)

$ aptitude -s -o Aptitude::CmdLine::Resolver-Debug=true safe-upgrade

  Actually, it would also be helpful if you could produce a resolver
trace:

$ aptitude -s -o Aptitude::ProblemResolver::Trace-File=/tmp/somefilename

  (pick a file that doesn't exist: aptitude will overwrite it)

 Thanks,
  Daniel


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instabillity with eclipse on lenny

2008-08-09 Thread martin
Hi,

I'm running eclipse (3.3 and 3.4) under debian lenny. Last week the program 
runned fine without any problems. This week however, the program is very 
instable and crash on regular basis (can be after 5 minutes sometimes). The 
only differers is that I have been updating my lenny distribution every day 
for the last weeks.

I have been using 3.3 (binary downloaded from eclipse.org) for sometime, when 
the crashing was starting, I tried to download 3.4 with the same result.

I know that this is not an ideal situation here with binary programs and from 
non-free section (sun jdk). What I'm looking for is some tips on how to trace 
down this problem so maybe I can fix it. Anyone have any good hints?

 Martin


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can't get to printer admin page using Iceweasel.

2008-08-09 Thread Paul Cartwright
I am having difficulty doing any printer admin using Iceweasel. I have:
Debian Lenny 2.6.25-2

IW 3.0.1
Opera 9.51

Opera works fine, Iceweasel just sets and spins...
trying to open:
https://192.168.10.2:631/printers/start printer

I can get to the main admin page, but clicking on start printer... whatever.. 
just hangs
Opera snaps right back with the appropriate page.
here is what IW shows for my printer:
Description: EPSON USB2.0 MFP(Hi-Speed)
Location: Local Printer
Printer Driver: Epson Stylus Photo R380 - CUPS+Gutenprint v5.0.2
Printer State: idle, accepting jobs, published.
Device URI: epson:/dev/usb/lp0 


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Re: Does apt keep old packages?

2008-08-09 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 14:32 +0200, Aniruddha wrote:
 On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 09:26 -0300, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote:
  Aniruddha escreveu:
   Unfortunately I have a fresh install, does
   this mean I can't install an older package?
 
  
  You should be able to find them at http://snapshot.debian.net/ 

 Thanks! This is exactly what I was looking for :) Do you happen to know
 if this site is an official Debian project?

All official Debian project sites are *.debian.org.  The .net sites
aren't official, as far as I am aware of.

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Re: Benefits (and risks) of using Sid

2008-08-09 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tue, 2008-08-05 at 21:07 -0700, Daniel Burrows wrote:
 On Tue, Aug 05, 2008 at 01:00:44PM -0700, Paul Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] was 
 heard to say:
  aptitude makes it easy to plan the updates
 
   How so?

You can easily mark packages for installation, upgrade, reinstallation
or removal without doing it right then.  You can easiliy set marks, then
quit aptitude to save the changes.  This is especially handy if your
users also log into their shell accounts:  Curious users can run
aptitude and see what changes are planned for the system the next time
packages get upgrades.

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Re: TTY 1 to 6 are garbled

2008-08-09 Thread Paul Johnson
On Wed, 2008-08-06 at 15:57 +0200, Aniruddha wrote:
 I hope someone can help me with this. TTY 1 to 6 have a garbled display.
 To clarify what I mean I've uploaded a screenshot, you can find it here: 
 http://img510.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tty1xh3.jpg I run Debian testing.
 I have never seen this before, any help to fix this would be
 appreciated!

I believe that's a bug; installing fglrx seems to fix it.  I've yet to
reproduce it on anything but a Radeon-based display.

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APT recommendations/suggestions not obvious

2008-08-09 Thread Shachar Or
Hi.

why doesn't aptitude show me for what purpose a package reccomends or suggests 
another?

I'd very much like that because sometimes, perhaps many times, I can't guess 
it and even if I can guess it, how do I know?

I find that many times README.Debian doesn't mention those things.

Any thoughts about this?

Good week!

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Re: Replacing hda - Easiest Way?

2008-08-09 Thread Paul Johnson
On Mon, 2008-08-04 at 11:52 -0700, Scarletdown wrote:
 I'm going to be upgrading my primary hard drive (80GB) with a new 500GB
 drive today.  The old drive has 7 assorted partitions on it:

[...]

 So, what would be the easiest way to transfer everything from the old
 drive to the new one?

Check out the Hard Disk Upgrade HOWTO.
http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Hard-Disk-Upgrade/index.html

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Re: Benefits (and risks) of using Sid

2008-08-09 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tue, 2008-08-05 at 14:09 +0100, andy wrote:
 Hi all
 
 This is just a general enquiry about the benefits of using Sid on a 
 desktop or a workstation. Aside from obtaining up-to-the-minute software 
 (and related patches), are there any other benefits to using Sid? I am 
 aware of the risks - i.e. frequently broken applications - but to be 
 honest, how often does this happen?

This happens fairly often.  I strongly reccommend testing instead unless
you're adventurous and willing to file good bug reports.  Testing has at
least been in unstable long enough to not pick up showstopping bug
reports before moving on to testing.

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Re: Benefits (and risks) of using Sid

2008-08-09 Thread Florian Kulzer

Quoting Nate Bargmann n0nb AT n0nb DOT us:

* Florian Kulzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008 Aug 09 07:29 -0500]:


[...]


- It would be nice to have apt-cache policy-equivalent information in
  the versions display of packages. Right now I find it difficult to
  figure out in which archive a given version can be found. (As a matter
  of fact, that is the only reason I still use apt-cache, aside from
  very simple searches for which apt-cache's dumber-but-faster search
  function is sufficient.)


Okay, here I'm out in left field as I don't know what apt-cache policy
would do.  I tend to avoid policy whenever I can.  ;-)


My statement was a bit unclear; I use the apt-cache policy command to see
which versions are available for a given package and in which archives they
are included. Aptitude tells me the former on its package information page,
but not the latter (unless I missed something).

Even if there is only one known version of a given package, I find it handy
to be able to distinguish the following cases:

- The package only exists in stable: time to check out the reasons for its
  removal and to look for alternatives

- The package has the same version in stable, testing and unstable: probably
  well tested and mature, but maybe unlikely to get new features

- The package only exists in unstable (and maybe testing): probably has
  interesting new features and bugs, it might be fun to play with it

Right now I use the limit view function with appropriate search terms to
get this kind of information; it would be nice if aptitude displayed the
archive(s) next to the version number automatically.

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Re: chkrootkit infected ports 2881

2008-08-09 Thread Paul Johnson
On Mon, 2008-08-04 at 14:52 +0100, Adam Hardy wrote:

 Yes, you are right, and I have been too slack to get around to changing it. I 
 am 
 looking at installing tripwire (after a fresh install) to be able to check up 
 what is going on after the fact.

If you have more than one machine, you might consider talking to
Tripwire, Inc. about getting Tripwire Enterprise.  The open edition
isn't bad for a few machines and a small number of users, but if you
really need to track changes made by many administrators on many
machines, Tripwire Enterprise is going to be better suited.

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Re: chkrootkit infected ports 2881

2008-08-09 Thread Paul Johnson
On Mon, 2008-08-04 at 13:19 -0400, Joey Hess wrote:

 filtered != open
 
Filtered means that a firewall, filter,
or other network obstacle is blocking the port so that Nmap cannot 
 tell whether
it is open or closed. -- man nmap

I wish nmap would call filtered by a more accurate description:
broken.  Firewalls and routers must send back that the port is closed,
not just silently ignore the connection.  That's in the STDs.

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Re: Benefits (and risks) of using Sid

2008-08-09 Thread Florian Kulzer

Quoting Daniel Burrows dburrows AT debian DOT org:


On Sat, Aug 09, 2008 at 02:11:43PM +0200, Florian Kulzer was heard to say:

- I would like to be able to declare favorites among packages, to
  guide conflict resolution.


  I was actually working on this a few weeks ago but I got sidetracked
by the fact that the GTK+ interface was starting to become interesting
to hack on...

  I was looking at something like this:

Aptitude::Resolver::Hints {
  // To reject a package completely, like pressing r on
  // all its versions:
  reject dselect;

  // To reject a particular version, like pressing r on it:
  reject foopackage=1.0.0.bad-version-number;

  // To always take a package over alternatives:
  accept aptitude-doc-cs;

  // To always take a particular package version over alternatives:
  accept linux-2.6/etch;

  // We can use patterns too.  Maybe we want to prefer German docs:
  accept ?name(.*-doc-de);

  // Weights can be adjusted, too.  Give a bonus to emacs and
  // a penalty to vi:
  +100 ?name(^emacs);
  -100 ?name(^vi);
};


Ooh, that will be nice to have, thanks a lot!

(Also, I really like the Monty-Pythonesque absurd humor in the last example.)

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Re: nVidia G70 with 32 bit Etch Problem

2008-08-09 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tue, 2008-08-05 at 10:36 -0400, Thomas H. George wrote:

 Where can I find and download a binary nvidia driver?

m-a a-i nvidia-kernel

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Re: nVidia G70 with 32 bit Etch Problem

2008-08-09 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tue, 2008-08-05 at 09:40 -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
 Thomas H. George wrote:
  Objective: 32 bit chroot Etch on a system with an AMD 64 bit processor.  
  Problem: Incorrect video driver for nVidia G70 card.
  
  To start I copied xorg.conf from the  primary system - Lenny with  an 
  x86_64  linux kernel image.  The display works fine on the primary 
  system using the nv driver.  When it failed on the  chroot Etch I went 
  to the nVidia website and downloaded a program to produce a driver and 
  ran it from the chroot Etch.  It detected the 64 bit processor and 
  aborted.  Next I installed and ran nvidia-xconfig.  This changed the 
  driver from nv to nvidia but when I tried to start gdm it failed with a 
  message Failed to load module 'nvidia' (module does not exist, 0)
  
  Where can I find and download a binary nvidia driver?
  
 
 Did you ask this question on the nVidia Linux forum?

That's not the best answer to this question, given that there is a
Debian way to do this, and it's in the wiki.

http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers

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Re: swappiness of 2.6 kernel

2008-08-09 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tue, 2008-08-05 at 08:28 +0100, thveillon.debian wrote:

 On a Desktop workstation (multimedia edit, 4Gb ram, timer freq being set 
 @ 1000HZ) I've been using 20 for a long time, no problem whatsoever and 
 no swapping at all.

How sure are you on that?  I've 2GB of RAM¹ and eventually something
sitting in memory that hasn't done anything in a long time will get
swapped out as a pre-emptive measure to keep more RAM available for disk
cache and other programs.

¹ I'm kind of curious where Tom got gigabits of RAM.  :o)

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Re: Nvidia GeForce FX5200 problems

2008-08-09 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thu, 2008-07-31 at 23:08 -0400, Frank McCormick wrote:
 On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 21:18:47 -0500
 Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   Is this:
Disabledri
   or this:
Load   dri
   in your xorg.conf?
  
  No.
   
   Is this:
Option AIGLX   true
   in the ServerLayout section of your xorg.conf?
  
   
  xorg.conf has Option AIGLX false in it.
  
  Hmmm.  Very interesting.  In a confusing sort of way...
 
I have just about given up on this card. Ubuntu Gutsy for some reason
 ( different xorg I guess ) handled it with no problem. On Sid I can't even
 get X up. I'm in Sid now again using (uuugh) Intel video.

Ubuntu uses the proprietary video drivers for that card
(nvidia-glx-legacy-96xx, iirc).  See
http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers for information on how to
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gramps fails to start on sid

2008-08-09 Thread Kent West
I'm remoted into a sid box, from a sid box, and when I run gramps, it 
pops up the following and then just hangs; I eventually have to KILL it.


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ gramps
Upgrading INI file
Hspell: can't open /usr/share/hspell/hebrew.wgz.sizes.
Hspell: can't open /usr/share/hspell/hebrew.wgz.sizes.

If I run strace gramps, I see a lot of no such file errors, and it 
seems that maybe they repeat over and over; the end of my strace, when 
it finally hangs, looks like below. I can run gramps when I remote from 
this box to a third box (running testing instead of sid).



munmap(0xb6935000, 4096)= 0
mmap2(NULL, 593920, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 
0) = 0xb6433000

open(/usr/share/myspell/dicts/en_US.aff, O_RDONLY) = 22
fstat64(22, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=3045, ...}) = 0
mmap2(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 
0) = 0xb6935000

read(22, SET ISO8859-1\nTRY esianrtolcdugmp..., 4096) = 3045
read(22, ..., 4096)   = 0
close(22)   = 0
munmap(0xb6935000, 4096)= 0
brk(0xa0c9000)  = 0xa0c9000
open(/home/westk/.config/enchant/en_US.dic, O_RDONLY|O_CREAT, 0600) = 22
close(22)   = 0
stat64(/home/westk/.config/enchant/en_US.dic, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0600, 
st_size=0, ...}) = 0

open(/home/westk/.config/enchant/en_US.dic, O_RDONLY) = 22
flock(22, LOCK_EX)  = 0
fstat64(22, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0600, st_size=0, ...}) = 0
mmap2(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 
0) = 0xb6935000

read(22, ..., 4096)   = 0
flock(22, LOCK_UN)  = 0
close(22)   = 0
munmap(0xb6935000, 4096)= 0
open(/home/westk/.config/enchant/en_US.exc, O_RDONLY|O_CREAT, 0600) = 22
close(22)   = 0
stat64(/home/westk/.config/enchant/en_US.exc, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0600, 
st_size=0, ...}) = 0

open(/home/westk/.config/enchant/en_US.exc, O_RDONLY) = 22
flock(22, LOCK_EX)  = 0
fstat64(22, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0600, st_size=0, ...}) = 0
mmap2(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 
0) = 0xb6935000

read(22, ..., 4096)   = 0
flock(22, LOCK_UN)  = 0
close(22)   = 0
munmap(0xb6935000, 4096)= 0
munmap(0xb6433000, 593920)  = 0
brk(0x9fb8000)  = 0x9fb8000
access(/home/westk/.config/enchant/myspell/hy.dic, F_OK) = -1 ENOENT 
(No such file or directory)
access(/home/westk/.enchant/myspell/hy.dic, F_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such 
file or directory)
access(/usr/share/enchant/myspell/hy.dic, F_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such 
file or directory)
access(/usr/share/myspell/dicts/hy.dic, F_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such 
file or directory)
open(/home/westk/.config/enchant/myspell, 
O_RDONLY|O_NONBLOCK|O_LARGEFILE|O_DIRECTORY|O_CLOEXEC) = -1 ENOENT (No 
such file or directory)
open(/home/westk/.enchant/myspell, 
O_RDONLY|O_NONBLOCK|O_LARGEFILE|O_DIRECTORY|O_CLOEXEC) = -1 ENOENT (No 
such file or directory)
open(/usr/share/enchant/myspell, 
O_RDONLY|O_NONBLOCK|O_LARGEFILE|O_DIRECTORY|O_CLOEXEC) = -1 ENOENT (No 
such file or directory)
open(/usr/share/myspell/dicts, 
O_RDONLY|O_NONBLOCK|O_LARGEFILE|O_DIRECTORY|O_CLOEXEC) = 22

fstat64(22, {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=4096, ...}) = 0
getdents64(22, /* 9 entries */, 4096)   = 288
close(22)   = 0
access(/usr/share/myspell/dicts/hyph_en_US.aff, F_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No 
such file or directory)

futex(0x9de64b4, FUTEX_WAIT_PRIVATE, 2, NULL


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Re: APT recommendations/suggestions not obvious

2008-08-09 Thread Ron Johnson

On 08/09/08 15:40, Shachar Or wrote:

Hi.

why doesn't aptitude show me for what purpose a package reccomends or suggests 
another?


I'd very much like that because sometimes, perhaps many times, I can't guess 
it and even if I can guess it, how do I know?


I find that many times README.Debian doesn't mention those things.

Any thoughts about this?


At times like this, I just flip to another open xterm and do 
apt-cache show.


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