Re: is it safe to reomve all the other video card driver?

[Andrei Popescu]

On Fri,15.May.09, 12:08:55, 明覺 wrote:
> my video card is nVidia Corporation GeForce 9500 GT, but i found that
> my debian system also installed all the other drivers, like ati,
> arp.., is it safe to remove all the other drivers except the
> xserver-xorg-video-nv? thanks.

Yes, unless you expect to move the installation to a different computer 
or change the video card. I always keep -vesa, for my friend JustIn 
Case.

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Re: No console from X

[Andrei Popescu]

On Thu,14.May.09, 20:57:29, Ed Jabbour wrote:
> I can't get to a console from X.  I.e., alt-ctrl-f1, 2  get me only a 
> black screen with no prompt.  The same thing happens if I try "console login" 
> from kdm.  inittab is the default.  Graphics driver NVidia 173.14.09.  Any 
> hints, pointers, appreciated.

Does 'chvt 1' (as root) work? What Debian version (lenny/stable, ...) 
are you using?

Regards,
Andrei
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update-manager: internet access not working since update [was: Re: Help! Lost GDM-based Internet Access in Squeeze]

[Andrei Popescu]

On Thu,14.May.09, 14:03:37, Ken L. Klaser wrote:
 
> The basic problem is this: I updated Debian Squeeze last night using a
> weekly scheduled Update Manager update (may have been first one since
> dist-upgrade, and since last night's update, Network Manager in Gnome
> (or the display manager GUI), doesn't seem to allow an Internet
> connection, while prior to the update it worked fine.  At terminal
> level, there certainly seems to be access (for example, elinks works),
> but in Gnome or the GUI level, not so.

Hello,

According to several reports here, update-manager is not working quite 
right. The better alternative would be wicd, so you might try installing 
that instead.

Regards,
Andrei
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RE: response from the host command for a private address listed in /etc/hosts

[Peter Crawford]

Aaron,

> Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 23:02:17 -0500
> ... If you tell your LAN
> machines to use the router (with dnsmasq) as their DNS server, that
> should work.
>
> Or do I misunderstand?

Exactly what I want.  Thanks,... p. crawford


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RE: response from the host command for a private address listed in /etc/hosts

[Aaron Hall]

On Thu, 14 May 2009, Peter Crawford wrote:

> Boyd & others,
>
> > Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 14:52:12 -0500
> > ...
> > So, it always uses DNS, not paying attention to your settings in
> > nsswitch.conf. In particular, it doesn't read /etc/hosts because it
> > doesn't use the "files" NS module.
>
> OK, thanks.
>
> dnsmasq on a linux router can provide a subordinate machine on the LAN
> with a public ip address.  Can someone offer a little direction to
> allow me to have the private addresses specified in /etc/hosts also
> available to the LAN machines.

dnsmasq uses /etc/hosts as its DNS database as well as its DHCP
configuration. If /etc/hosts includes private addresses, that's what
dnsmasq will report. It'll forward any DNS queries that /etc/hosts can't
answer to an outside DNS server of your choice. If you tell your LAN
machines to use the router (with dnsmasq) as their DNS server, that
should work.

Or do I misunderstand?

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is it safe to reomve all the other video card driver?

[明覺]

my video card is nVidia Corporation GeForce 9500 GT, but i found that
my debian system also installed all the other drivers, like ati,
arp.., is it safe to remove all the other drivers except the
xserver-xorg-video-nv? thanks.

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Re: Upgrading mdadm-based RAID arrays

[Henrique de Moraes Holschuh]

On Fri, 15 May 2009, Alex Samad wrote:
> I wouldn't make up raid devices with other raid device (I think its
> possible), but I seem to remember thats its not advisable.

You're correct.  Don't stack md devices if you want to be on the safe side.
Nobody tests that regularly, and it has caused problems in the past.

> I would suggest though, when you get to around 5 or 6 drives you look at
> raid6 instead.

Indeed, especially with such big drives.

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No console from X

[Ed Jabbour]

I can't get to a console from X.  I.e., alt-ctrl-f1, 2  get me only a 
black screen with no prompt.  The same thing happens if I try "console login" 
from kdm.  inittab is the default.  Graphics driver NVidia 173.14.09.  Any 
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Re: Using terminal output as input

[tyler]

Dotan Cohen  writes:

> I am using a Debian-based distro (Ubuntu). Often I need to use the
> output of one terminal command as the input for another. A classic
> example is the  which command:
> $ which firefox
> /usr/bin/firefox
> $

This may be a stupid question, but what's the difference between firefox
and $(which firefox)? They both run the first executable named firefox
in your path, don't they?

Tyler

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Re: Upgrading mdadm-based RAID arrays

[Alex Samad]

On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 02:06:59PM -0700, Tyler MacDonald wrote:
> Got an answer: RTFM! :-)
> 
>-z, --size=
> [...]
>   This value can be set with --grow for RAID level 1/4/5/6. If the
>   array  was created with a size smaller than the currently active
>   drives, the extra space can be accessed using --grow.  The size
>   can  be given as max which means to choose the largest size that
>   fits on all current drives.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Tyler MacDonald  wrote:
> > Hello debian!
> > 
> >   I have a RAID-5 mdadm array with 4x500GB drives (1.4TB usable). I'm
> > running out of space and am going to buy a new drive, but I would like to
> > move to 1TB drives (either RAID-5 or RAID-10, haven't quite decided yet). I
> > can't afford to buy all new 1TB drives at once so I'm thinking about just
> > adding a fifth drive to the array now, and then upgrading the remaining
> > drives as I can afford it.
> > 
> >   I've dug around trying to find information on how to do this and haven't
> > seen anything yet. I've imagined the process to be something like: ("Plan
> > A")
> > 
> > 1. One-by-one, replace the 500GB drives with 1TB drives, rebuilding the
> >array using only the first 500GB of each drive.
> > 
> > 2. Once all drives are 1TB, do something to tell mdadm to reshape the
> >array so that the full 1TB from each drive is used
> > 
> > 3. e2fsck -f /dev/md0 && resize2fs /dev/md0
> > 
> >   Does step #2 exist? If so, how is it done?
> > 
> >   If that's not possible, I'm considering the following plan: ("Plan B")
> > 
> > 1. Buy 2x1TB drives, set them up as RAID-5 (1TB usable)
> > 
> > 2. Copy 1TB of the 1.4TB to the new array
> > 
> > 3. Degrade my existing 4x500GB array, freeing up 1x500GB drive
> > 
> > 4. Copy the remaining 400GB to the "spare" drive
> > 
> > 5. Tear down the 3x500GB array
> > 
> > 6. Set up 2x500GB from the old array as a 1TB RAID-0 stripe
> > 
> > 7. Add the 2x500GB RAID-0 to the new RAID-5 as a "1TB drive",
> >making the new array have 2TB capacity, eg;
> >  mdadm --add /dev/md0 /dev/md1
> >  mdadm --grow /dev/md0 ...
> > 
> > 8. Copy the data from the "spare" drive over to the new array
> > 
> > 9. Repeat step #7 with the remaining 2x500GB drives, resulting in
> >3TB capacity on the array
> > 
> >   I'd really prefer to go with "Plan A". It's cheaper to get started with,
> > far less complicated, and doesn't risk data loss during the move.
> > 
> >   Any ideas? Is this possible?

I wouldn't make up raid devices with other raid device (I think its
possible), but I seem to remember thats its not advisable.

the first option would be my preference ( I have done it previously), I
have taken a 3 drive 500Gb and replaced it slowly with 1TB drives, take
out drive, let it rebuild and then replace another drive let it rebuild,
till I have 3x1T but still using the same space as before, then use the
grow as you suggested above, you can also grow to go from 3 drives to 4
drives.

I would suggest though, when you get to around 5 or 6 drives you look at
raid6 instead.



> > 
> >   Thanks,
> > Tyler
> > 
> 
> 

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Upgrading mdadm-based RAID arrays

[Tyler MacDonald]

Hello debian!

  I have a RAID-5 mdadm array with 4x500GB drives (1.4TB usable). I'm
running out of space and am going to buy a new drive, but I would like to
move to 1TB drives (either RAID-5 or RAID-10, haven't quite decided yet). I
can't afford to buy all new 1TB drives at once so I'm thinking about just
adding a fifth drive to the array now, and then upgrading the remaining
drives as I can afford it.

  I've dug around trying to find information on how to do this and haven't
seen anything yet. I've imagined the process to be something like: ("Plan
A")

1. One-by-one, replace the 500GB drives with 1TB drives, rebuilding the
   array using only the first 500GB of each drive.

2. Once all drives are 1TB, do something to tell mdadm to reshape the
   array so that the full 1TB from each drive is used

3. e2fsck -f /dev/md0 && resize2fs /dev/md0

  Does step #2 exist? If so, how is it done?

  If that's not possible, I'm considering the following plan: ("Plan B")

1. Buy 2x1TB drives, set them up as RAID-5 (1TB usable)

2. Copy 1TB of the 1.4TB to the new array

3. Degrade my existing 4x500GB array, freeing up 1x500GB drive

4. Copy the remaining 400GB to the "spare" drive

5. Tear down the 3x500GB array

6. Set up 2x500GB from the old array as a 1TB RAID-0 stripe

7. Add the 2x500GB RAID-0 to the new RAID-5 as a "1TB drive",
   making the new array have 2TB capacity, eg;
 mdadm --add /dev/md0 /dev/md1
 mdadm --grow /dev/md0 ...

8. Copy the data from the "spare" drive over to the new array

9. Repeat step #7 with the remaining 2x500GB drives, resulting in
   3TB capacity on the array

  I'd really prefer to go with "Plan A". It's cheaper to get started with,
far less complicated, and doesn't risk data loss during the move.

  Any ideas? Is this possible?

  Thanks,
Tyler


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Re: mount.crypt, LUKS volumes and keyfiles

[Michael Iatrou]

When the date was Wednesday 13 May 2009, Γιώργος Πάλλας wrote:

> Has anybody managed to mount a LUKS volume using a key-file, with
> 'mount.crypt'? (or 'just mount')


Have you tried pmount?


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Help! Lost GDM-based Internet Access in Squeeze

[Ken L. Klaser]

Hi,

I need to file a bug report, but I'm a new Debian and Linux user, and am
having some problems doing so, Reportbug seems to fail. I've never used
Reportbug before!  Therefore I've followed the instructions at
http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting#whatpackage which says, "If you are
unable to determine which package your bug report should be filed
against, please send e-mail to the Debian user mailing list asking for
advice."

The basic problem is this: I updated Debian Squeeze last night using a
weekly scheduled Update Manager update (may have been first one since
dist-upgrade, and since last night's update, Network Manager in Gnome
(or the display manager GUI), doesn't seem to allow an Internet
connection, while prior to the update it worked fine.  At terminal
level, there certainly seems to be access (for example, elinks works),
but in Gnome or the GUI level, not so.

So, when trying to file a bug report with Reportbug, because that seems
to run within Gnome under GTK, it also fails, presumably due to the same
problem.  Here are rebortbug's error messages, and please keep in mind
I've retyped these manually into another computer from which I'm
submitting this to the listserve, so there may be typos, it's not a "cut
and paste".

*begin First Reportbug error

Unable to connect to Debian BTS.

*/end First Reportbug error

**begin Second Reportbug error

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.5/reportbug/ui/gtk2_ui.py", line 459,
in callback
 func (*args, **kwargs)
  File "/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.5/reportbug/ui/gtk2_ui.py", line 507,
in execute_operation self.execute (*args, **kwargs)
  File "/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.5/reportbug/ui/gtk2_ui.py", line 801,
in execute iter - self.model.append ((highlight (option), options[option]))
KeyError: 'non-critical'

**/end Second Reportbug error

Can anyone help?

Background: I updated to Squeeze or testing distribution because there
were some libraries that were required for running a program I want to
use quite a bit, and updating to testing seemed easiest, though it also
seemed there were other ways to approach the problem.  However, at this
point, I'm wondering if I should just wipe the install and start over
with a clean version of Lenny, and stay with Lenny.  I don't yet have a
Linux backup system that makes rolling back relatively easy yet, it's on
a very long todo list with something of a low priority (getting outside
in the sun and working in the yard and dirt etc. is actually higher on
my personal priority list, at least right now as it's spring, I'm
supposed to be working on a fruit tree irrigation project, it has a
higher personal priority).  So, rolling back would involve a lot of
setup. Oh well!

If anyone can help it would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Ken


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Re: Why is the kernel in testing so far behind what's current?

[Michael Iatrou]

When the date was Thursday 14 May 2009, thveillon.debian wrote:

> Raffaele Morelli wrote:
> > 2009/5/14 Daryl Styrk  > >
> >
> > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> > Hash: SHA1
> >
> > On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 06:15:42AM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote:
> > > I dumped Network Manager and went with WiCD.  No regrets for
> > > doing so.
> > >
> > > - Nate >>
> >
> > Same here much better.
> >
> > - --
> >
> >
> > +1
>
> Just for the records, +1.
> nm keeps freezing my system.

Indeed wicd is so much better than NetworkManager in terms of stability.

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Re: Upgrading mdadm-based RAID arrays

[Tyler MacDonald]

Got an answer: RTFM! :-)

   -z, --size=
[...]
  This value can be set with --grow for RAID level 1/4/5/6. If the
  array  was created with a size smaller than the currently active
  drives, the extra space can be accessed using --grow.  The size
  can  be given as max which means to choose the largest size that
  fits on all current drives.




Tyler MacDonald  wrote:
> Hello debian!
> 
>   I have a RAID-5 mdadm array with 4x500GB drives (1.4TB usable). I'm
> running out of space and am going to buy a new drive, but I would like to
> move to 1TB drives (either RAID-5 or RAID-10, haven't quite decided yet). I
> can't afford to buy all new 1TB drives at once so I'm thinking about just
> adding a fifth drive to the array now, and then upgrading the remaining
> drives as I can afford it.
> 
>   I've dug around trying to find information on how to do this and haven't
> seen anything yet. I've imagined the process to be something like: ("Plan
> A")
> 
> 1. One-by-one, replace the 500GB drives with 1TB drives, rebuilding the
>array using only the first 500GB of each drive.
> 
> 2. Once all drives are 1TB, do something to tell mdadm to reshape the
>array so that the full 1TB from each drive is used
> 
> 3. e2fsck -f /dev/md0 && resize2fs /dev/md0
> 
>   Does step #2 exist? If so, how is it done?
> 
>   If that's not possible, I'm considering the following plan: ("Plan B")
> 
> 1. Buy 2x1TB drives, set them up as RAID-5 (1TB usable)
> 
> 2. Copy 1TB of the 1.4TB to the new array
> 
> 3. Degrade my existing 4x500GB array, freeing up 1x500GB drive
> 
> 4. Copy the remaining 400GB to the "spare" drive
> 
> 5. Tear down the 3x500GB array
> 
> 6. Set up 2x500GB from the old array as a 1TB RAID-0 stripe
> 
> 7. Add the 2x500GB RAID-0 to the new RAID-5 as a "1TB drive",
>making the new array have 2TB capacity, eg;
>  mdadm --add /dev/md0 /dev/md1
>  mdadm --grow /dev/md0 ...
> 
> 8. Copy the data from the "spare" drive over to the new array
> 
> 9. Repeat step #7 with the remaining 2x500GB drives, resulting in
>3TB capacity on the array
> 
>   I'd really prefer to go with "Plan A". It's cheaper to get started with,
> far less complicated, and doesn't risk data loss during the move.
> 
>   Any ideas? Is this possible?
> 
>   Thanks,
> Tyler
> 


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Re: Re: mpirun problem

[Eftaxiopoulos Dimitrios]

I installed the openssh-server package and now I can use mpirun. Thanks

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Re: Vicam missing firmware

[Florian Kulzer]

On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 08:46:33 +0200, Raven wrote:
> Hi all. I recently upgraded my desktop box to a more powerful hardware
> configuration. Before the upgrade (and the re-install of debian
> unstable) I was running a vanilla kernel, but now I switched to the one
> from the repositories, "2.6.29-2-amd64".
> 
> I plugged in a 3com HomeConnect USB webcam and the "vicam" module was
> loaded successfully. Unfortunately when I try to grab video from it I
> get syslog entries complaining about a missing firmware file:
> 
> [65770.532020] usb 4-1: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 2
> [65770.701070] usb 4-1: New USB device found, idVendor=04c1, idProduct=009d
> [65770.701073] usb 4-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, 
> SerialNumber=3
> [65770.701075] usb 4-1: Product: 3Com HomeConnect USB Camera 
> [65770.701076] usb 4-1: Manufacturer: 3Com
> [65770.701077] usb 4-1: SerialNumber: 23G6BB59D5TM
> [65770.701146] usb 4-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
> [65770.817811] Linux video capture interface: v2.00
> [65770.829649] ViCam based webcam connected
> [65770.829691] ViCam webcam driver now controlling video device 0
> [65770.829703] usbcore: registered new interface driver vicam
> [66185.544395] usb 4-1: firmware: requesting vicam/firmware.fw
> [66185.560383] Failed to load "vicam/firmware.fw": -2

[...]

The firmware seems to have been removed from the Debian kernel. You can
download the firmware blob from git.kernel.org

wget -O firmware.fw 
"http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/dwmw2/linux-firmware-from-kernel.git;a=blob_plain;f=vicam/firmware.fw;hb=HEAD";

and try if copying it to 

/lib/firmware/vicam/firmware.fw

makes the firmware available to the driver.

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Re: keyboard problem

[Florian Kulzer]

On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 11:09:17 -0700, Enrique Morfin wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> 
> I just installed testing (laptop and system) in hp dv6420la. I upgraded to 
> testing (changed sources.list and dist-upgrade)

Note: My comment below assumes that you meant upgrading from testing to
  unstable here. (AFAIK, testing does not yet have the new input
  subsystem.)

> Then i install xorg xserver-xorg (xorg.conf empty)
> Then nvidia driver (it creates a non-empty xorg.conf).
> 
> If i type xinit, i got X running, but the keyboard has some trubles:
> 
> Each time i press any key, eg "a" it apears one "a".
> When i release the key, it apears another "a".
> So, each time i press and release any key, i always got 2 letters (sometimes 
> 3).
> 
> xorg.conf:
> 
> Section "InputDevice"
> Identifier "Keyboard0"
> Driver "kbd"
> Option "XkbRules" "xorg"
> Option "XkbModel" "hpzt11xx"
> Option "XkbLayout" "latam"
> EndSection
> 
> I have tried XkbModel as pc104, pc105, the problem remains.
> I had also tried changing AutoRepeat option, with no luck.
> 
> Any idea?

Comment out the input section or disable the addition of devices from
HAL events. More info here:

http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/InputHotplugGuide

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Re: Using terminal output as input

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In <78582fa40905141033n6248df7fy35fb1727e260d...@mail.gmail.com>, S Scharf 
wrote:
>$(ekiga 2>/dev/stdout | head -2 | tail -1)

More portable, but the same results:
$(ekiga 2>&1 | head -n 2 | tail -n 1)
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Re: differences of gfortran on amd64 and i386

[Davide Mancusi]

> Hello list,
> 
> I have a rather funny and annoying problem with a third-party fortran
> program. It is a non-free scientific program for some physical
> calculations. I get different output values, if I compile and run the
> same fortran code on amd64 or i386.
> 
> In fact, depending on the input file it exits with some error message
> in i386, when the same file runs fine on amd64. This is even true of
> the 'test' file provided with the program. Therefore it seems there is
> something wrong with my configuration or the compiler on i386.
> 
> I can run the binary compiled on i386 on amd64, but the binary
> compiled on amd64 is different and yields different results. The
> i386-binary runs without errors on amd64, however, when it exits on
> error on i386.
> 
> I have no idea, where to start looking for what is wrong here.
> 
> I run lenny on both systems.
> 
> I get the same behaviour for -i868 and -amd64 kernels on i386.

Try compiling with -ffloat-store on i386. Also, is it a pure
FORTRAN program or do you have some parts written in other languages?
And finally, are you linking to some external library (like CERNLIB)?

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RE: DNS lookups in Sid

[Peter Crawford]

> This doesn't look like a problem with DNS.
>
> But what could it be?

Does /etc/hosts begin thus?

127.0.0.1localhost.localdomainlocalhost 
127.0.1.1mycomputer.invalidmycomputer

If so, try commenting the 2nd line.

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Re: DNS lookups in Sid

[Dave Patterson]

* Old Crankbuster  [2009-05-14 19:25:48 +0700]:

> * Old Crankbuster  [2009-05-14 19:22:14 +0700]:
> 
>  
> > $ nslookup security.debian.org
> > Server: 127.0.0.1
> > Address:127.0.0.1#53
> > 
> Oops wrong output, should read:
> 
> Server:   192.168.1.1
> Address:  192.168.1.1#53
>  

This doesn't look like a problem with DNS.

But what could it be?

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Re: Using terminal output as input

[S Scharf]

On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 1:26 PM, S Scharf  wrote:

>
>
> On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 11:13 AM, Dotan Cohen wrote:
>
>> > Not pretty but how about
>> > `ekiga | head -2 | tail -1`
>> >
>> > (note use of backticks)
>> >
>>
>> That's creative! It doesn't seem to work on this system, I will try on
>> Real Debian (tm) when I get home. However, it does require
>> foreknowledge of the output, which I suppose is all right if the user
>> can run the same command again.
>
>
> Oops, the output of ekiga is going to stderr and not stdout. Only stdout
> gets piped.
>
> Anyone know how to capture and pipe stdout?
>


to answer my own question try this:

$(ekiga 2>/dev/stdout | head -2 | tail -1)

Stuart




>
>
> Stuart
>
>
>>
>>
>> I just thought that there would be a command made for this, as it
>> seems to be a common situation. I did not think that it would have to
>> resort to hacks.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> --
>> Dotan Cohen
>>
>> http://what-is-what.com
>> http://gibberish.co.il
>>
>
>

Re: Using terminal output as input

[S Scharf]

On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 11:13 AM, Dotan Cohen  wrote:

> > Not pretty but how about
> > `ekiga | head -2 | tail -1`
> >
> > (note use of backticks)
> >
>
> That's creative! It doesn't seem to work on this system, I will try on
> Real Debian (tm) when I get home. However, it does require
> foreknowledge of the output, which I suppose is all right if the user
> can run the same command again.


Oops, the output of ekiga is going to stderr and not stdout. Only stdout
gets piped.

Anyone know how to capture and pipe stdout?

Stuart


>
>
> I just thought that there would be a command made for this, as it
> seems to be a common situation. I did not think that it would have to
> resort to hacks.
>
> Thanks!
>
> --
> Dotan Cohen
>
> http://what-is-what.com
> http://gibberish.co.il
>

Re: 5.0.1 MD5SUMS

[Lisi Reisz]

On Thursday 14 May 2009 16:37:19 green wrote:
> Lisi Reisz wrote at 2009-05-14 09:33 -0500:
> > I am clearly going either blind or mad.  In spite of spending quite some
> > time looking, I cannot find the MD5sum for 5.0.1, which I have just
> > downloaded. It surely must be there - but where is there?
>
> This?
> http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.1/i386/iso-cd/MD5SUMS

Thanks.  Appreciated. :-)

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Re: Using terminal output as input

[Ken Irving]

On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 05:55:35PM +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote:
> I am using a Debian-based distro (Ubuntu). Often I need to use the
> output of one terminal command as the input for another. A classic
> example is the  which command:
> $ which firefox
> /usr/bin/firefox
> $
> 
> Now, I would like to use that output as input, to start firefox. Other
> than manually typing it in, is there a way for the user to use the
> output directly?
> 
> Another example is when the OS lets the user know that she needs to
> install a program and gives her the command to install it:
> $ ekiga
> The program 'ekiga' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
> sudo apt-get install ekiga
> bash: ekiga: command not found
> $
> 
> In contrast to the "which" example, the text that the user needs is
> buried in the output. Is there a way to use it anyway, without
> retyping (and without using the mouse, which I often do not have).
> Thanks!

I'm not sure, but you may be seeing the 'command-not-found' hook that was
added to bash 3.x as a patch in debian and ubuntu, and I think programmed
in ubuntu to install the program (or maybe just to suggest doing that,
as in your example).  This scheme was accepted into bash 4.0 with some
improvements, e.g., giving access to the failed command's argument list,
vs the older patch which only kept the command itself.

(If you're interested, you could check for a function called
command_not_found_handler() or similar in your shell environment, and
just see what it contains.  That function could be redefined for other
purposes, but, again, it only provides access to the command, not to
the arguments (unless that's been fixed since I've looked.)

I'm not sure how that relates to the subject question.  These things
differ according to what shell you're using, but in bash `backticks` are
the "old" way of treating shell output as input, and the $(...) construct
is the "new" way.

You might try something like this, which works for me on bash in lenny:

$ exec $(which iceweasel)

If you don't use exec the process will run as a child process of the
shell, while exec replaces the shell with the new process.

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Re: 5.0.1 MD5SUMS

[green]

Lisi Reisz wrote at 2009-05-14 09:33 -0500:
> I am clearly going either blind or mad.  In spite of spending quite some time 
> looking, I cannot find the MD5sum for 5.0.1, which I have just downloaded.  
> It surely must be there - but where is there?

This?
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Re: Using terminal output as input

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In <880dece00905140755w67aefd85uacffa635c306...@mail.gmail.com>, Dotan Cohen 
wrote:
>I am using a Debian-based distro (Ubuntu). Often I need to use the
>output of one terminal command as the input for another.

UNIX-ish OSes and programs are designed for this, but you'll have to learn 
the small tools in order to build the custom tools you want.

In general, terminal commands read from "standard input" and write to 
"standard output" and "standard error".  These names are often shorted:
standard input  = stdin  = file descriptor 0 = fd 0
standard output = stdout = file descriptor 1 = fd 1
standard error  = stderr = file descriptor 2 = fd 2

By default, all of these are attached to your terminal.  However, you can 
use redirection and pipes to have a terminal command read or write to other 
files or other commands.

"> file"  makes a command's standard output write to a new, empty file.
">> file" makes a command's standard output append to an existing file.
"< file"  makes a command's standard input read from an existing file.
"cmd1 | cmd2" makes cmd1's standard output write cmd2's standard input.

"$(cmd1)" captures a command's standard output (removing the last '\n' if 
there is one) and uses it as part of the shell's input -- similar to a 
variable expansion.

info:/bash/Redirections and info:/bash/Pipelines has more details.

http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/95399/utilities/xcu_chap02.html is 
the canonical reference, but it is dry, technical, and probably has a lot 
more details that you are not interested in immediately.  The link also may 
require registration.

These are particularly useful when combined with the "UNIX filter commands" 
tr, grep, sed, cut, paste, and awk plus the tee command.
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Re: Installing xfce 4.6 on Lenny

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On Thu,14.May.09, 13:01:25, Adam Hardy wrote:
> Hi you German users,
>
> is the keyboard layout switcher plugin for xfce working in 4.6?
>
> I'm using 4.4 (default pkg from the repo) and the switcher is up the 
> creek - work-around requires CLI commands.

As far as I can tell it works now.

> Also, are there massive improvements between 4.4 and 4.6?

Not massive, but there are improvements.

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Re: 5.0.1 MD5SUMS - thank you

[Lisi Reisz]

On Thursday 14 May 2009 16:16:42 Chris Burkhardt wrote:
> Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > I am clearly going either blind or mad.  In spite of spending quite some
> > time looking, I cannot find the MD5sum for 5.0.1, which I have just
> > downloaded. It surely must be there - but where is there?
>
> On the FTP server in the same directory as the image you downloaded is a
> file named MD5SUMS (and there's also SHA1SUMS). For example, this file has
> the sums for all of the the i386 CD images:
>
> http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.1/i386/iso-cd/MD5SUMS

Thanks, Chris.  As I said, I must be going blind, mad or both.  I downloaded 
by torrent, but I searched, I thought, all the servers for this, and also 
searched using the Debian site search utility and searched via Google.

So - as I said, thank you for rescuing me.  :-)

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Re: Using terminal output as input

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Dotan Cohen wrote:
>> Not pretty but how about
>> `ekiga | head -2 | tail -1`
>>
>> (note use of backticks)
>>
>> 
>
> That's creative! It doesn't seem to work on this system, I will try on
> Real Debian (tm) when I get home. However, it does require
> foreknowledge of the output, which I suppose is all right if the user
> can run the same command again.
>
> I just thought that there would be a command made for this, as it
> seems to be a common situation. I did not think that it would have to
> resort to hacks.
>   

Like you said, it does require foreknowledge of the output. So there is
no way to make a one-size-fits-all solution, be it a command-line trick
or a program.

If you told us exactly what you want to achieve, we might be able to
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Re: Why is the kernel in testing so far behind what's current?

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> 
>> - Nate >>
> 
> Same here much better. 
> 
Alternatively can setup /etc/network/interfaces (if you mainly use 1
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Re: Using terminal output as input

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On 05/14/09 15:55, Dotan Cohen wrote:
> I am using a Debian-based distro (Ubuntu). Often I need to use the
> output of one terminal command as the input for another. A classic
> example is the  which command:
> $ which firefox
> /usr/bin/firefox
> $
> 
> Now, I would like to use that output as input, to start firefox. Other
> than manually typing it in, is there a way for the user to use the
> output directly?

As well as all the other answers, you could pipe the output to bash.
This will work with any command where the command you want to run is the
only output displayed.

$ which firefox | bash


> Another example is when the OS lets the user know that she needs to
> install a program and gives her the command to install it:
> $ ekiga
> The program 'ekiga' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
> sudo apt-get install ekiga
> bash: ekiga: command not found
> $
> 
> In contrast to the "which" example, the text that the user needs is
> buried in the output. Is there a way to use it anyway, without
> retyping (and without using the mouse, which I often do not have).
> Thanks!
> 
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RE: Udev and device name unstable

[Peter Crawford]

> /dev/fujitsu which it gets from the ...

That was meant to indicate the serial number.
/dev/fujitsu1234567 for example.  Hotmail 
omitted some of the text in the prior message.

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RE: Udev and device name unstable

[Peter Crawford]

Andrei Popescu wrote,
> Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 10:20:31 +0300
> ...
> Those are usually symbolic links to the real device:
>
> $ ls -l /dev/dvd*
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 2009-05-12 09:05 /dev/dvd -> hda
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 2009-05-12 09:05 /dev/dvdrw -> hda

With scsi storage, which includes USB flash storage, 
the device name frequently changes with rebooting.
For example, a swap drive alone can be /dev/sda but 
if the system starts with a store connected by USB, 
the swap drive can be /dev/sdb.  Is there any way to 
have the kernel use a name such as 
/dev/fujitsu which it gets from the 
scsi bus?

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Re: 5.0.1 MD5SUMS

[Chris Burkhardt]

Lisi Reisz wrote:
> I am clearly going either blind or mad.  In spite of spending quite some time 
> looking, I cannot find the MD5sum for 5.0.1, which I have just downloaded.  
> It surely must be there - but where is there?

On the FTP server in the same directory as the image you downloaded is a file
named MD5SUMS (and there's also SHA1SUMS). For example, this file has the sums
for all of the the i386 CD images:

http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.1/i386/iso-cd/MD5SUMS

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Re: Using terminal output as input

[Dotan Cohen]

> Also note that
>
> $(ekiga | head -2 | tail -1)
>
> is a more portable equivalent.  $() is the same as `` but unlike `` can
> be nested, and has less quoting issues.  You can enclose it in
> double quotes, for example since it behaves like a variable expansion.
>

That also does not work on Debian-derived Ubuntu, so I do not know how
portable that is! But thanks for the tip, I certainly did learn
something and that's most important.

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Re: Using terminal output as input

[Dotan Cohen]

> Not pretty but how about
> `ekiga | head -2 | tail -1`
>
> (note use of backticks)
>

That's creative! It doesn't seem to work on this system, I will try on
Real Debian (tm) when I get home. However, it does require
foreknowledge of the output, which I suppose is all right if the user
can run the same command again.

I just thought that there would be a command made for this, as it
seems to be a common situation. I did not think that it would have to
resort to hacks.

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Re: Using terminal output as input

[Roger Leigh]

On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 11:08:14AM -0400, S Scharf wrote:
> On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 10:55 AM, Dotan Cohen  wrote:
> 
> > I am using a Debian-based distro (Ubuntu). Often I need to use the
> > output of one terminal command as the input for another. A classic
> > example is the  which command:
> > $ which firefox
> > /usr/bin/firefox
> > $
> >
> > Now, I would like to use that output as input, to start firefox. Other
> > than manually typing it in, is there a way for the user to use the
> > output directly?
> >
> > Another example is when the OS lets the user know that she needs to
> > install a program and gives her the command to install it:
> > $ ekiga
> > The program 'ekiga' is currently not installed.  You can install it by
> > typing:
> > sudo apt-get install ekiga
> > bash: ekiga: command not found
> > $
> 
> 
> Not pretty but how about
> `ekiga | head -2 | tail -1`

Also note that

$(ekiga | head -2 | tail -1)

is a more portable equivalent.  $() is the same as `` but unlike `` can
be nested, and has less quoting issues.  You can enclose it in
double quotes, for example since it behaves like a variable expansion.


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Re: Using terminal output as input

[S Scharf]

On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 10:55 AM, Dotan Cohen  wrote:

> I am using a Debian-based distro (Ubuntu). Often I need to use the
> output of one terminal command as the input for another. A classic
> example is the  which command:
> $ which firefox
> /usr/bin/firefox
> $
>
> Now, I would like to use that output as input, to start firefox. Other
> than manually typing it in, is there a way for the user to use the
> output directly?
>
> Another example is when the OS lets the user know that she needs to
> install a program and gives her the command to install it:
> $ ekiga
> The program 'ekiga' is currently not installed.  You can install it by
> typing:
> sudo apt-get install ekiga
> bash: ekiga: command not found
> $


Not pretty but how about
`ekiga | head -2 | tail -1`

(note use of backticks)

Stuart


>
>
> In contrast to the "which" example, the text that the user needs is
> buried in the output. Is there a way to use it anyway, without
> retyping (and without using the mouse, which I often do not have).
> Thanks!
>
> --
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>
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[Dotan Cohen]

> do you mean using the back-quote
> `which firefox`
> the above command will fire the firefox command

Thanks, Bhasker. I meant to ask, in the more general sense, how to use
the terminal output as input. The second example in the OP describes
that more.

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RE: response from the host command for a private address listed in /etc/hosts

[Peter Crawford]

Boyd & others,

> Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 14:52:12 -0500
> ...
> So, it always uses DNS, not paying attention to your settings in
> nsswitch.conf. In particular, it doesn't read /etc/hosts because it doesn't
> use the "files" NS module.

OK, thanks.

dnsmasq on a linux router can provide a subordinate 
machine on the LAN with a public ip address.
Can someone offer a little direction to allow me to 
have the private addresses specified in /etc/hosts 
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Re: Using terminal output as input

[Bhasker C V]

On Thu, 14 May 2009, Dotan Cohen wrote:


I am using a Debian-based distro (Ubuntu). Often I need to use the
output of one terminal command as the input for another. A classic
example is the  which command:
$ which firefox
/usr/bin/firefox
$


do you mean using the back-quote
`which firefox`
the above command will fire the firefox command


Now, I would like to use that output as input, to start firefox. Other
than manually typing it in, is there a way for the user to use the
output directly?

Another example is when the OS lets the user know that she needs to
install a program and gives her the command to install it:
$ ekiga
The program 'ekiga' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
sudo apt-get install ekiga
bash: ekiga: command not found
$

In contrast to the "which" example, the text that the user needs is
buried in the output. Is there a way to use it anyway, without
retyping (and without using the mouse, which I often do not have).
Thanks!

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Using terminal output as input

[Dotan Cohen]

I am using a Debian-based distro (Ubuntu). Often I need to use the
output of one terminal command as the input for another. A classic
example is the  which command:
$ which firefox
/usr/bin/firefox
$

Now, I would like to use that output as input, to start firefox. Other
than manually typing it in, is there a way for the user to use the
output directly?

Another example is when the OS lets the user know that she needs to
install a program and gives her the command to install it:
$ ekiga
The program 'ekiga' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
sudo apt-get install ekiga
bash: ekiga: command not found
$

In contrast to the "which" example, the text that the user needs is
buried in the output. Is there a way to use it anyway, without
retyping (and without using the mouse, which I often do not have).
Thanks!

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Re: 5.0.1 MD5SUMS

[Bhasker C V]

On Thu, 14 May 2009, Lisi Reisz wrote:


I am clearly going either blind or mad.  In spite of spending quite some time
looking, I cannot find the MD5sum for 5.0.1, which I have just downloaded.
It surely must be there - but where is there?

dpkg -S `which md5sum`
coreutils: /usr/bin/md5sum
server:~# which md5sum
/usr/bin/md5sum



Help anyone?

TIA
Lisi


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5.0.1 MD5SUMS

[Lisi Reisz]

I am clearly going either blind or mad.  In spite of spending quite some time 
looking, I cannot find the MD5sum for 5.0.1, which I have just downloaded.  
It surely must be there - but where is there?

Help anyone?

TIA
Lisi


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Re: Strange printing problem in iceweasel -pelase help.

[Ramasubramanian Ramesh]

Thank you. But my trouble has nothing to do with printer as I cannot 
print to a file either. It seems to be a iceweasel problem in printing 
selected pages.


Ramesh


Andrew Malcolmson wrote:

On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 6:46 PM, Ramasubramanian Ramesh  wrote:
  

Can you please tell me why this might be happening and what experiments I
can do to further investigate? I tried googling and got nowhere.




Take a look at the Ubuntu wiki page on debugging printing issues:

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingPrintingProblems

  



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Re: Strange printing problem in iceweasel -pelase help.

[Andrew Malcolmson]

On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 6:46 PM, Ramasubramanian Ramesh  wrote:
> Can you please tell me why this might be happening and what experiments I
> can do to further investigate? I tried googling and got nowhere.
>

Take a look at the Ubuntu wiki page on debugging printing issues:

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingPrintingProblems


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differences of gfortran on amd64 and i386

[Johannes Wiedersich]

Hello list,

I have a rather funny and annoying problem with a third-party fortran
program. It is a non-free scientific program for some physical
calculations. I get different output values, if I compile and run the
same fortran code on amd64 or i386.

In fact, depending on the input file it exits with some error message in
i386, when the same file runs fine on amd64. This is even true of the
'test' file provided with the program. Therefore it seems there is
something wrong with my configuration or the compiler on i386.

I can run the binary compiled on i386 on amd64, but the binary compiled
on amd64 is different and yields different results. The i386-binary runs
without errors on amd64, however, when it exits on error on i386.

I have no idea, where to start looking for what is wrong here.

I run lenny on both systems.

I get the same behaviour for -i868 and -amd64 kernels on i386.

Thanks for any pointers!

Johannes

NB: please cc me.


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Re: if no NFS server clients are waiting..

[Michael Casey]

the fstab entry is this

vim /etc/fstab
192.168.1.1:/mnt/share/ /home/user/Desktop/Share/ nfs
defaults,ro,nfsvers=3,nolock 0 0

Re: if no NFS server clients are waiting..

[Michael Casey]

I tried "ls --color=never"
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=468049
it still waits

I tried on the client side with other mount options: intr, soft
it still waits


update :D :
I turn the NFS server down
Clients hang
reboot client
client cant see the NFS share, but at least it doesn't wait's for it
I start the NFS server
reboot client
It can see the shares again

Client's are Lenny's

ps.: amm...the nfs server is really an unfs3 server in an openwrt kamikaze
8.09 router... :) :S

Re: Why is the kernel in testing so far behind what's current?

[thveillon.debian]

Raffaele Morelli wrote:
> 
> 
> 2009/5/14 Daryl Styrk mailto:darylst...@gmail.com>>
> 
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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> On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 06:15:42AM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote:
> >
> > I dumped Network Manager and went with WiCD.  No regrets for doing so.
> >
> > - Nate >>
> 
> Same here much better.
> 
> - --
> 
> 
> +1
> 

Just for the records, +1.
nm keeps freezing my system.

Tom


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Re: gnome setup question

[George]

Klistvud wrote:

Dne, 13. 05. 2009 01:09:09 je Jude DaShiell napisal(a):
  
Does debian flavor of gnome come with sound that can play on the 
sound


card when gnome starts up?  If so, what needs to be done to turn that 
capability on?




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If you're talking about "system sounds", the answer is NO, they are 
disabled as default. You have to enable them via 
System>Settings>Sound>Sound>Play System Sounds.



  
I seem to remember something too when I use to use gnome that you need 
to run alsaconfig(?) from a terminal and follow the on screen 
directions. You may have to install packages too ie: alsa alsa-util. I 
don't remember 100% what it was but it should help steer you in the 
right direction.


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Re: DNS lookups in Sid

[Old Crankbuster]

* Old Crankbuster  [2009-05-14 19:22:14 +0700]:

 
> $ nslookup security.debian.org
> Server:   127.0.0.1
> Address:  127.0.0.1#53
> 
Oops wrong output, should read:

Server: 192.168.1.1
Address:192.168.1.1#53
 
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Re: Why is the kernel in testing so far behind what's current?

[Raffaele Morelli]

2009/5/14 Daryl Styrk 

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> On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 06:15:42AM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote:
> >
> > I dumped Network Manager and went with WiCD.  No regrets for doing so.
> >
> > - Nate >>
>
> Same here much better.
>
> - --
>

+1

Re: DNS lookups in Sid

[Old Crankbuster]

* Jörg-Volker Peetz  [2009-05-14 12:17:01 +0200]:

> What is the outcome of the command
> 
>   dig +short 
> 
> or alternatively
> 
>   nslookup 
> 
> ?

# apt-get update:
(truncated, all repositories return the same)
Err http://security.debian.org lenny/updates Release.gpg
  Could not resolve 'security.debian.org'
(truncated) 

$ nslookup security.debian.org
Server: 127.0.0.1
Address:127.0.0.1#53

Non-authoritative answer:
Name:   security.debian.org
Address: 195.20.242.89
Name:   security.debian.org
Address: 212.211.132.32
Name:   security.debian.org
Address: 212.211.132.250
Name:   security.debian.org
Address: 128.31.0.36
Name:   security.debian.org
Address: 130.89.149.225
Name:   security.debian.org
Address: 149.20.20.6

$ dig +short security.debian.org

212.211.132.32
212.211.132.250
128.31.0.36
130.89.149.225
149.20.20.6
195.20.242.89

PING security.debian.org (212.211.132.250) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from lobos.debian.org (212.211.132.250): icmp_seq=1 ttl=49
time=261 ms
64 bytes from lobos.debian.org (212.211.132.250): icmp_seq=2 ttl=49
time=260 ms

--- security.debian.org ping statistics ---
2 packets transmitted, 2 received, 0% packet loss, time 999ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 260.516/261.079/261.643/0.760 ms

Strangeness...

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Re: Installing xfce 4.6 on Lenny

[Adam Hardy]

Hi you German users,

is the keyboard layout switcher plugin for xfce working in 4.6?

I'm using 4.4 (default pkg from the repo) and the switcher is up the creek - 
work-around requires CLI commands.


Also, are there massive improvements between 4.4 and 4.6?

regards
Adam



Christoph Pilka on 12/05/09 01:52, wrote:
Some weeks ago I installed XFCE 4.6 on many Lenny boxes and documented 
the installation in a howto I have published in my wiki:


http://debian.asconix.com/xfce-debian-lenny-howto

Following step-by-step results in a clean and properly working XFCE 
4.6 installation.


Greets,
Chris

Magnus Pedersen wrote:


Matteo Riva wrote:
Hello everybody.  I have been using Debian for a while, I had an 

old
system which went through many dist upgrades and I always played 

with

testing and unstable stuff, even before I actually knew what I was
doing.

Now since I'm running a fresh and "clean" Lenny install I'm here
to ask what is the correct way to handle packages from the testing
branch, in case I want to use a newer version of some software 

(namely

xfce in this specific case).

Do I have to do a full dist-upgrade or can I just mix packages from
stable and testing branches?

Any input appreciated, thanks.



I wouldn't mix stable and testing, get XFCE from backports if it is
available or run testing.

YMMV

/Magnus








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Re: Internationalisation packages for KDE

[Brad Rogers]

On Thu, 14 May 2009 13:01:17 +0200
Sven Joachim  wrote:

Hello Sven,

> suit because no packages _depend_ on the KDE translations.  Since there
> was no schedule for KDE 4 to enter testing, this action was certainly
> premature.

Thanks for the explanation, Sven.

> Should not be a big problem though, as you can install kde-i18n-*
> packages from stable.

Already done it.

Once again, thanks.

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Re: Why is the kernel in testing so far behind what's current?

[Daryl Styrk]

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On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 06:15:42AM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote:
> 
> I dumped Network Manager and went with WiCD.  No regrets for doing so.
> 
> - Nate >>

Same here much better. 

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Re: Why is the kernel in testing so far behind what's current?

[Nate Bargmann]

* Patrick Wiseman  [2009 May 13 08:43 -0500]:

> The reason I asked is that network-manager has been freezing my system
> and the maintainer, who believes it's a kernel problem, asked me to
> test it against the latest kernel.  But I really don't want to get
> ahead of, or out of sync with, where testing is.

I dumped Network Manager and went with WiCD.  No regrets for doing so.

- Nate >>

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Re: Internationalisation packages for KDE

[Sven Joachim]

On 2009-05-14 12:38 +0200, Brad Rogers wrote:

> I've been trying to find out why the KDE internationalisation packages
> are no longer available in testing.  Searches of Google have provided no
> useful info.  Similarly, searching debian.org revealed nothing.  Maybe I
> can't fathom the correct incantations.
>
> Does anyone know why?

They have been removed from unstable, since they are uninstallable and
superseded by kde-l10n-* packages for KDE 4 there, and testing followed
suit because no packages _depend_ on the KDE translations.  Since there
was no schedule for KDE 4 to enter testing, this action was certainly
premature.

Should not be a big problem though, as you can install kde-i18n-*
packages from stable.

Sven


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Internationalisation packages for KDE

[Brad Rogers]

Hello All,

I've been trying to find out why the KDE internationalisation packages
are no longer available in testing.  Searches of Google have provided no
useful info.  Similarly, searching debian.org revealed nothing.  Maybe I
can't fathom the correct incantations.

Does anyone know why?

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Re: DNS lookups in Sid

[Jörg-Volker Peetz]

What is the outcome of the command

  dig +short 

or alternatively

  nslookup 

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RT3.6 failing mysteriously after lenny upgrade

[Dave Sherohman]

I finally got around to upgrading from etch to lenny about a week ago
and, since then, my Request Tracker installation has been returning
blank pages after about 24 hours of operation.  An `apache2ctl graceful`
will get it working again, but, the next day, I'm right back to blank
pages.

These white pages were initially associated with a segfault being logged
on each request, which gave me something to google for, and I turned up
some posts stating that it was likely caused by an incomplete upgrade
which did not make all necessary database changes.  A specific change
was mentioned, which did indeed put an end to the segfaults (it now logs
no errors when failing), but the blank pages are still coming back.

Some of my google hits mentioned that the change I'd made was not the
only one and that you should go through the steps listed in
UPGRADING.mysql or re-run upgrade-mysql-schema.pl, but neither of these
files appears to exist on my system.  (`locate` doesn't find them and
`dpkg -L` doesn't list them as being present in the request-tracker3.6
or rt3.6-db-mysql packages.)

What do I need to do to recover from this and get RT to stay up 24/7
again?

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Re: gnome setup question

[Klistvud]

Dne, 13. 05. 2009 01:09:09 je Jude DaShiell napisal(a):
> Does debian flavor of gnome come with sound that can play on the 
> sound
> 
> card when gnome starts up?  If so, what needs to be done to turn that 
> capability on?
> 
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If you're talking about "system sounds", the answer is NO, they are 
disabled as default. You have to enable them via 
System>Settings>Sound>Sound>Play System Sounds.


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Re: Why is the kernel in testing so far behind what's current?

[Brent Clark]

Patrick Wiseman wrote:

Thanks, guys, for suggesting that - I used to build a custom kernel
the "Debian way" all the time, but am out of the habit.  I'll get back
into it.

Patrick

  

Personally I dont know why you would.

My suggestion, get unstables version, if that does not work, then try 
rolling your own.


Regards
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P.s. I use unstables 2.6.29 ... I havent had any problems.


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Re: mpirun problem

[Micha Feigin]

Dimitrios Eftaxiopoulos wrote:
I created the key by using 


ssh-keygen

but then when I try to copy the public key to the node (my laptop) by using

ssh-copy-id machine_name

I get 


ssh: connect to host machine_name port 22: Connection refused

Dimitris




You probably need to install a ssh server (look for a sshd package, I don't know 
your distro so I don't know what package to suggest)



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Re: Re: mpirun problem

[Dimitrios Eftaxiopoulos]

I created the key by using 

ssh-keygen

but then when I try to copy the public key to the node (my laptop) by using

ssh-copy-id machine_name

I get 

ssh: connect to host machine_name port 22: Connection refused

Dimitris


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Re: DNS lookups in Sid

[Old Crankbuster]

* Andrei Popescu  [2009-05-14 08:59:58 +0300]:

> Maybe this NEWS entry?
> 
> ,[ /usr/share/doc/libc6/NEWS.Debian ]
> | glibc (2.9-8) unstable; urgency=low
> |
> |   Starting with version 2.9-8, unified IPv4/IPv6 lookup have been enabled
> |   in the glibc's resolver. This is faster, fixes numerous of bugs, but is
> |   problematic on some broken DNS servers and/or wrongly configured 
> |   firewalls. 
> |   
> |   If such a DNS server is detected, the resolver switches (permanently
> |   for that process) to a mode where the second request is sent only when
> |   the first answer has been received. This means the first request will
> |   be timeout, but subsequent requests should be fast again. This 
> |   behaviour   can be enabled permanently by adding 'single-request' to 
> |   /etc/resolv.conf.  
> |
> |  -- Aurelien Jarno   Thu, 23 Apr 2009 21:14:32 +0200
> `

Hmm, no joy there, my other OS is a hybrid Lenny/Sid running
libc6-2.9-12

For grins, I manually installed the resolvconf package, edited
/etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/tail to include the line 'single-request',

so now my /etc/resolv.conf reads:

nameserver 192.168.1.1
single-request

across boots.  Still same behavior.  Oddly, all links work from the BBC
rss feed on the iceweasel stock install.

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Hal and xorg

[J R]

What is the status of hal and xorg integration?
Are package maintainers going to make hal rekomended package or leave it as
is (depends)?
On BTS* #515214 is marked wontfix, but wiki page** says it might be changed.

JR

* http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=515214
** http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/CurrentProblemsInUnstable

Re: I can not set up postfix to send email through SSL-connection

[Tzafrir Cohen]

On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 08:05:27AM +0100, Harry Rickards wrote:
> On 14 May 2009, at 07:54, Sthu Deus  wrote:
>
>> Thank You for Your time and answer, James and, especially, Andrei:
>>
>>> I assume you want to send mail via smarthost. Please provide
>>> /etc/postfix/main.cf
>>
>> It is big - is it ok if post it whole here? Or, may I will use grep  
>> for some exact info?

You can grep for the exact info. but better first just grep-out comments
and empty lines.

$ wc /etc/postfix/main.cf
  40  143 1312 /etc/postfix/main.cf
$ egrep -v '^(#|$)' /etc/postfix/main.cf | wc
 20  63 786

>
> If it's big, try using Pastebin (http://pastebin.com/).

For the purpose of archiving, I prefer to keep it in the list. If you do
use a pastebin, make sure your paste never expires.

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Re: I can not set up postfix to send email through SSL-connection

[Andrei Popescu]

On Jo,14.mai.09, 13:54:14, Sthu Deus wrote:
> Thank You for Your time and answer, James and, especially, Andrei:
> 
> > I assume you want to send mail via smarthost. Please provide 
> > /etc/postfix/main.cf
> 
> It is big - is it ok if post it whole here? Or, may I will use grep for
> some exact info?

I'll post snippets out of my config and you can compare:

,[ /etc/postfix/main.cf ]
| # Enable authentication
| smtp_sasl_auth_enable = yes
|
| # The file that contains the passwords per user
| smtp_sasl_password_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/sasl/sasl_passwd
|
| # Other options
| smtp_sasl_type = cyrus
|
| # Is this still neded? Yes
| smtp_sasl_security_options =
`

,[ /etc/postfix/sasl/sasl_passwd ]
| [smtp.gmail.com]:587 andreimpope...@gmail.com:MySecretPassword
`

You also need to run 'postmap' (as root) on this file.

> Also, I think that my problem is w/ firewall... At least I would check

Are you blocking *outgoing* traffic? (not that it's impossible, but not 
the most common case)

> > dpkg -l postfix
> 2.5.5-1.1

Same as mine
 
> > dpkg -l libsasl*
> un  libsasl2(no
> description available) ii  libsasl2-2
> 2.1.22.dfsg1-23+b1   Cyrus SASL - authentication abstraction
> library un  libsasl2-gssapi-mit  
> (no description available) un  libsasl2-krb4-mit
>(no description available) ii
> libsasl2-modules 2.1.22.dfsg1-23+b1   Cyrus SASL -
> pluggable authentication modules un  libsasl2-modules-gssapi-heim
>(no description available) un
> libsasl2-modules-gssapi-mit (no
> description available) un  libsasl2-modules-ldap
>(no description available) un
> libsasl2-modules-otp(no
> description available) ii  libsasl2-modules-sql
> 2.1.22.dfsg1-23+b1   Cyrus SASL - pluggable authentication
> modules (SQL)

If I read this right you have libsasl2-2 and libsasl2-modules installed 
(status ii), which is ok.

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Re: ps merge problem

[Johannes Wiedersich]

adel azadehfar wrote:
> hi when i use of 
> gswin32.exe gs -q -dNOPAUSE -dBATCH -sDEVICE=pswrite -sOutputFile=ali3.ps -f 
> ali1.ps ali2.ps
> 
> don't working .can do u help me ?

Just go to http://goodbye-microsoft.com/, install debian and you will
get a free and more powerful OS and maybe even some support from this
list. It will also free you from the lock imposed by having to succumb
to silly licence conditions, that often prevent efficient use of your
computer (for example to get a full backup or a running system).

Cheers,
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Re: I can not set up postfix to send email through SSL-connection

[Harry Rickards]

On 14 May 2009, at 07:54, Sthu Deus  wrote:


Thank You for Your time and answer, James and, especially, Andrei:


I assume you want to send mail via smarthost. Please provide
/etc/postfix/main.cf


It is big - is it ok if post it whole here? Or, may I will use grep  
for

some exact info?

Also, I think that my problem is w/ firewall... At least I would check
it first - may we will escape then some work in vain. Could You please
tell me the ports I have to open in order to send through SMTP SSL?

For now I have tried this:

160 ACCEPT tcp  --  eth0   *   0.0.0.0/0
0.0.0.0/0   tcp dpt:465

0 0 ACCEPT tcp  --  eth0
*   0.0.0.0/0 0.0.0.0/0   tcp dpt:10025

W/ no success. From the above I see a connection trial, but I see no
any relating stuff in the /var/log/mail.log though.

Now, how I did it w/ my email client: I use ClawsMail 3.5.0 and  
there I
have set user account and passwords for both - POP and SMTP then in  
SSL

tab I've set 'Use SSL for' both protocols.

My problem is also that the mail client does not specigy what the
problem is except saying something like, Connection problem - and
that's all.



dpkg -l postfix

2.5.5-1.1


dpkg -l libsasl*

un  libsasl2(no
description available) ii  libsasl2-2
2.1.22.dfsg1-23+b1   Cyrus SASL - authentication abstraction
library un  libsasl2-gssapi-mit  
(no description available) un  libsasl2-krb4-mit
   (no description available) ii
libsasl2-modules 2.1.22.dfsg1-23+b1   Cyrus SASL -
pluggable authentication modules un  libsasl2-modules-gssapi-heim
   (no description available) un
libsasl2-modules-gssapi-mit (no
description available) un  libsasl2-modules-ldap
   (no description available) un
libsasl2-modules-otp(no
description available) ii  libsasl2-modules-sql
2.1.22.dfsg1-23+b1   Cyrus SASL - pluggable authentication
modules (SQL)

Thank You for Your time, again.


If it's big, try using Pastebin (http://pastebin.com/).

Thanks
Harry Rickards


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