Re: editing protected fiels in a word document/remove password

[Frank Lin PIAT]

On Thu, 2009-06-25 at 18:14 -0600, lee wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> how do I remove a password or at least edit protected fields in a MS
> word document that I'm editing with openoffice?
> 
> I'm trying to fill out a form, but some of the information requested
> is not applicable. I need to replace some Yes/No boxes with my own
> text ("does not apply"), but openoffice doesn't let me edit
> this. These fields appear to be in a table.

I am definetly not a OOo expert, but you probably have to show the
Toolbar "View>Toolbars>Form Controls",

Then click on the "Design mode On/Off", to be able to change the
properties.

My 2¢,

Franklin


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Re: my apt-get behaves weird in Lenny

[Γιώργος Πάλλας]

Ricky Breaky wrote:

Dear my friends,

I am new in Debian Lenny. I have installed lenny on my laptop but I can
not install any other software with apt-get.

This was my try:
===
DebbyLenny:/# apt-get install mysql-server
Paketlisten werden gelesen... Fertig
Abhängigkeitsbaum wird aufgebaut   
Lese Status-Informationen ein... Fertig

Probieren Sie »apt-get -f install«, um dies zu korrigieren:
Die folgenden Pakete haben nicht erfüllte Abhängigkeiten:
  amule-utils: Hängt ab: libgd2-xpm (>= 2.0.36~rc1~dfsg) soll aber nicht
installiert werden
  mozilla-plugin-vlc: Hängt ab: vlc-nox (= 0.8.6.h-4+lenny2) soll aber
nicht installiert werden
  mysql-server: Hängt ab: mysql-server-5.1 soll aber nicht installiert
werden
  vlc: Hängt ab: vlc-nox (= 0.8.6.h-4+lenny2) soll aber nicht
installiert werden
  vlc-plugin-arts: Hängt ab: vlc-nox soll aber nicht installiert werden
  vlc-plugin-esd: Hängt ab: vlc-nox soll aber nicht installiert werden
  vlc-plugin-ggi: Hängt ab: vlc-nox soll aber nicht installiert werden
  vlc-plugin-glide: Hängt ab: vlc-nox soll aber nicht installiert werden
  vlc-plugin-jack: Hängt ab: vlc-nox (= 0.8.6.h-4+lenny2) soll aber
nicht installiert werden
  vlc-plugin-sdl: Hängt ab: vlc-nox soll aber nicht installiert werden
  vlc-plugin-svgalib: Hängt ab: vlc-nox (= 0.8.6.h-4+lenny2) soll aber
nicht installiert werden
E: Nicht erfüllte Abhängigkeiten. Versuchen Sie »apt-get -f install«
ohne jegliche Pakete (oder geben Sie eine Lösung an).
DebbyLenny:/# 

  


Hmmm First of all, since you are new, start with a simpler 
sources.list file:


deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ lenny main contrib non-free

deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org lenny main

deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main contrib non-free
deb-src http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main contrib non-free


Then, instead of using 'apt-get', use 'aptitude'.
Give:
# aptitude update
# aptitude install mysql-server

That should play just fine...

Welcome to debian!

G.



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Re: Fwd: 2.6.26 and 2.6.29 kernel image , Couldn't find valid RAM disk image starting at 0

[Sven Joachim]

On 2009-06-26 03:09 +0200, Szabolcs Tóth wrote:

> I have a Proliant DL380 G5 server with a HP Smart Array P400
> Controller which provide 2 logical drive.
>
> I used 2.6.18 debian kernel. After I upgraded to lenny I installed the
> 2.6.26 amd64 kernel package but the system hanged with the following
> error msg.
>
> I installed the the 2.6.29 kernel too from the lenny-backport but I
> got the same error msg. I tried to upgrade lilo, adding the
> lage-memory option but nothing.

You could try grub instead, it is considered somewhat less broken than
lilo.  Or rebuild the initramfs after setting `MODULES=dep' in
/etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf to reduce its size.

> [4.550063] checking if image is initramfs...it isn't (bad gzip
> magic numbers); looks like an initrd
> [4.690037] Freeing initrd memory: 6392k freed
> [7.920170] Waiting 12sec before mounting root device...
> [   19.988876] RAMDISK: Couldn't find valid RAM disk image starting at 0.
> [   20.067490] List of all partitions:
> [   20.142760] No filesystem could mount root, tried:
> [   20.200934] Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root
> fs on unknown-block(104,2)

http://bugs.debian.org/479607 looks related to your problem, however
using the large-memory option should have solved it.

Sven


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Re: GNU Screen draws artifacts with Vim

[Amit Uttamchandani]

On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 18:53:53 -0700
"Todd A. Jacobs"  wrote:

> On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 12:01:09PM -0700, Amit Uttamchandani wrote:
> 
> > I use screen extensively with Vim. Recently I tried a new color scheme
> > that has a grey background. When scrolling using the keyboard...black
> > artifacts are left behind where the cursor position was. My terminal
> > background is black.
> 
> You might want to try toggling the allpartial on|off setting in screen,
> and see if that helps. There's also a -a fklag that affects your
> termcap, which might also be helpful.
> 
> For a manual process, CTRL-L or CTRL-A,SHIFT-F will usually get rid of
> screen artifacts, some of which are simply inevitable when dealing with
> curses-based screen updates.
> 

Thanks for the reply.

allpartial on or off does not help. I tried the -a but still no luck.

Ctrl-L does the trick but I wish this was done automatically.

This does not happen with putty however.

Amit


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Re: Fwd: 2.6.26 and 2.6.29 kernel image , Couldn't find valid RAM disk image starting at 0

[Sven Joachim]

On 2009-06-26 05:38 +0200, Alex Samad wrote:

> On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 03:09:40AM +0200, Szabolcs Tóth wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I have a Proliant DL380 G5 server with a HP Smart Array P400 Controller 
>> which provide 2 logical drive.
>>
>> I used 2.6.18 debian kernel. After I upgraded to lenny I installed the  
>> 2.6.26 amd64 kernel package but the system hanged with the following  
>> error msg.
>>
>> I installed the the 2.6.29 kernel too from the lenny-backport but I got 
>> the same error msg. I tried to upgrade lilo, adding the lage-memory 
>> option but nothing.
>>
>> [4.550063] checking if image is initramfs...it isn't (bad gzip magic 
>> numbers); looks like an initrd
>> [4.690037] Freeing initrd memory: 6392k freed
>> [7.920170] Waiting 12sec before mounting root device...
>> [   19.988876] RAMDISK: Couldn't find valid RAM disk image starting at 0.
>> [   20.067490] List of all partitions:
>> [   20.142760] No filesystem could mount root, tried:
>> [   20.200934] Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs 
>> on unknown-block(104,2)
>
> try booting with kernel options init=/bin/bash

This is not going to help because the kernel cannot even find the root
filesystem.

Sven


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SOLVED: update to xserver-xorg-core (2:1.6.1.901-3) killed performance

[Lachlan]

>been running what was fairly stable sid system but once i log in to
>gnome it comes to a screeching halt, with slow redraw and pretty much
>slow everything else graphically.the xorg-core package was updated
>this morning and started causing problems immediately after restarting
>
>Sid/Squeeze
>2.6.30
>intel driver with uxa enabled (2:2.7.1-1))

disabled UXA and it's okay again, looks like UXA (which was running
pretty well till today) is the culprit.

>xserver-xorg-core (2:1.6.1.901-3)
>
>anyone else having troubles with this update?


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reportbug crashes with sendmail usage error

[Foss User]

When I launch reportbug in Squeeze, fill up the details and click
"Submit the bug report via email" on the last dialog box, reportbug
crashes and I get this message in the shell:
Usage: /usr/sbin/sendmail -f f...@address.com -h relayhost [OPTIONS]
(use -H for help)

* How can I report a bug if it crashes?

* Is there a way to report a bug in reportbug?

* The old console based reportbug of Lenny used to work. Can I revert
to the console based reportbug?


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Re: Fwd: 2.6.26 and 2.6.29 kernel image , Couldn't find valid RAM disk image starting at 0

[Alex Samad]

On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 03:09:40AM +0200, Szabolcs Tóth wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have a Proliant DL380 G5 server with a HP Smart Array P400 Controller 
> which provide 2 logical drive.
>
> I used 2.6.18 debian kernel. After I upgraded to lenny I installed the  
> 2.6.26 amd64 kernel package but the system hanged with the following  
> error msg.
>
> I installed the the 2.6.29 kernel too from the lenny-backport but I got 
> the same error msg. I tried to upgrade lilo, adding the lage-memory 
> option but nothing.
>
> [4.550063] checking if image is initramfs...it isn't (bad gzip magic 
> numbers); looks like an initrd
> [4.690037] Freeing initrd memory: 6392k freed
> [7.920170] Waiting 12sec before mounting root device...
> [   19.988876] RAMDISK: Couldn't find valid RAM disk image starting at 0.
> [   20.067490] List of all partitions:
> [   20.142760] No filesystem could mount root, tried:
> [   20.200934] Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs 
> on unknown-block(104,2)
>
> Please help me to solve my problem.
> thanx
> Szabolcs Toth
>


try booting with kernel options init=/bin/bash


this will give you a command line prompt.

try 
cat /proc/partitions
lsmod 

see what the kernel can see on boot up and what modiles have been
loaded.

I do not think this is a mem issue more a can't find hard drives


Alex


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Fwd: 2.6.26 and 2.6.29 kernel image , Couldn't find valid RAM disk image starting at 0

[Szabolcs Tóth]

Hello,

I have a Proliant DL380 G5 server with a HP Smart Array P400  
Controller which provide 2 logical drive.


I used 2.6.18 debian kernel. After I upgraded to lenny I installed the  
2.6.26 amd64 kernel package but the system hanged with the following  
error msg.


I installed the the 2.6.29 kernel too from the lenny-backport but I  
got the same error msg. I tried to upgrade lilo, adding the  
lage-memory option but nothing.


[4.550063] checking if image is initramfs...it isn't (bad gzip  
magic numbers); looks like an initrd

[4.690037] Freeing initrd memory: 6392k freed
[7.920170] Waiting 12sec before mounting root device...
[   19.988876] RAMDISK: Couldn't find valid RAM disk image starting at 0.
[   20.067490] List of all partitions:
[   20.142760] No filesystem could mount root, tried:
[   20.200934] Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root  
fs on unknown-block(104,2)


Please help me to solve my problem.
thanx
Szabolcs Toth



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Re: GNU Screen draws artifacts with Vim

[Todd A. Jacobs]

On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 12:01:09PM -0700, Amit Uttamchandani wrote:

> I use screen extensively with Vim. Recently I tried a new color scheme
> that has a grey background. When scrolling using the keyboard...black
> artifacts are left behind where the cursor position was. My terminal
> background is black.

You might want to try toggling the allpartial on|off setting in screen,
and see if that helps. There's also a -a fklag that affects your
termcap, which might also be helpful.

For a manual process, CTRL-L or CTRL-A,SHIFT-F will usually get rid of
screen artifacts, some of which are simply inevitable when dealing with
curses-based screen updates.

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Re: trying to pin down a php mysql error

[Ross Tsolakidis]

I resolved this, it seemed to be an issue with boxes using php4 and
apache2.
Basically, for the boxes which reported the mysql error, I installed
libapache2-mod-php5, which replaced all of php4*, it needed some extra
php5 packages, just copy the ones that were removed, change the 4 to 5
:)
I also did an apt-get remove --purge phpmyadmin and re-installed it,
which then asked me which webserver I use, chose the correct one, and
presto, all working. 

I'm sure it's had something to do with the upgrades from apache1 to
apache2 and php4 to php5, somewhere along the line, it got sad and broke
:)

Anyway, all good.
Hope this helps someone.

Regards,
Ross.


>>Hi all,
>>
>>Over the last few days a lot of my Debian boxes are giving me errors
via
>>the phpmyadmin login page.
>>

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editing protected fiels in a word document/remove password

[lee]

Hi,

how do I remove a password or at least edit protected fields in a MS
word document that I'm editing with openoffice?

I'm trying to fill out a form, but some of the information requested
is not applicable. I need to replace some Yes/No boxes with my own
text ("does not apply"), but openoffice doesn't let me edit
this. These fields appear to be in a table.

When I just copy the whole form and paste it into a new "text
document", the fields in the form are not the same as in the original.


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Re: etckeeper - keeping /etc under version control

[Joseph Rawson]

On Wednesday 17 June 2009 09:28:36 Oliver Schneider wrote:
> > > I do not see how this solves the metadata issue if you use a version
> > > control system directly without the smartness etckeeper brings to the
> > > table e.g. by using its .gitignore settings.
> > >
> > > svk is an attempt to inject the notion of being a decentralized scm
> > > into a centralized one (which svn happens to be) ... that has nothing
> > > to do with putting /etc under version control
> >
> > metadata = data stored in .svn/ ?
>
> Yes. In this case all the metadata stored by SVN.
>
> Certainly there is more metadata which is nowadays simply ignored by many
> VCS, partially due to the discrepancies between different platforms and
> there implementation of, say, file permissions, partially out of negligence
> or lack of a *proper* solution.
>
I considered that svn used the *proper* solution with it properties system.  
Using subversion properties allows you to store arbitrary metadata on a per 
file/directory basis.  This allows each svn client to handle that metadata in 
the most appropriate way, without having the application try to decide this 
for you (It does make some assumptions for you, such as svn:executable, which 
doesn't make sense on windows platforms, but is necessary for unixy systems.

I solved most of these problems a few years ago by making a program, etcsvn,  
to handle this stuff for me.  After using it for around a year or so, with 
many machines, I found that it was less hassle to keep from placing the 
complete /etc directory in subversion, and just track certain files (i.e. 
those that were changed or new).
> Also, as far as I understand SVK it's using only one Subversion library,
> not the whole thing. It's not just a distributed SVN in that sense ... also
> see: 
>
> // Oliver

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my apt-get behaves weird in Lenny

[Ricky Breaky]

Dear my friends,

I am new in Debian Lenny. I have installed lenny on my laptop but I can
not install any other software with apt-get.

This was my try:
===
DebbyLenny:/# apt-get install mysql-server
Paketlisten werden gelesen... Fertig
Abhängigkeitsbaum wird aufgebaut   
Lese Status-Informationen ein... Fertig
Probieren Sie »apt-get -f install«, um dies zu korrigieren:
Die folgenden Pakete haben nicht erfüllte Abhängigkeiten:
  amule-utils: Hängt ab: libgd2-xpm (>= 2.0.36~rc1~dfsg) soll aber nicht
installiert werden
  mozilla-plugin-vlc: Hängt ab: vlc-nox (= 0.8.6.h-4+lenny2) soll aber
nicht installiert werden
  mysql-server: Hängt ab: mysql-server-5.1 soll aber nicht installiert
werden
  vlc: Hängt ab: vlc-nox (= 0.8.6.h-4+lenny2) soll aber nicht
installiert werden
  vlc-plugin-arts: Hängt ab: vlc-nox soll aber nicht installiert werden
  vlc-plugin-esd: Hängt ab: vlc-nox soll aber nicht installiert werden
  vlc-plugin-ggi: Hängt ab: vlc-nox soll aber nicht installiert werden
  vlc-plugin-glide: Hängt ab: vlc-nox soll aber nicht installiert werden
  vlc-plugin-jack: Hängt ab: vlc-nox (= 0.8.6.h-4+lenny2) soll aber
nicht installiert werden
  vlc-plugin-sdl: Hängt ab: vlc-nox soll aber nicht installiert werden
  vlc-plugin-svgalib: Hängt ab: vlc-nox (= 0.8.6.h-4+lenny2) soll aber
nicht installiert werden
E: Nicht erfüllte Abhängigkeiten. Versuchen Sie »apt-get -f install«
ohne jegliche Pakete (oder geben Sie eine Lösung an).
DebbyLenny:/# 


Why does my apt-get behaves like that? Why Can I not download and
install any single software automatically. That dependancy problem
always appears like that even I've defined complete enough apt.sources.

Whatever software I want to install the same error message will always
appears.

Please tell me why.

Thank you very much in advance.
===
This is my apt-sources.
$ cat /etc/apt/sources.list
# 
# deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 5.0.0 _Lenny_ - Official i386 DVD Binary-1
20090214-16:54]/ lenny contrib main

deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 5.0.0 _Lenny_ - Official i386 DVD Binary-1
20090214-16:54]/ lenny contrib main

# Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:
#deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main contrib
# Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:
#deb-src http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main contrib

# Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:
#deb http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile lenny/volatile main
contrib
# Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:
#deb-src http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile lenny/volatile main
contrib

#Afulinux
deb http://www.afulinux.de/debian lenny all
deb-src http://www.afulinux.de/debian lenny all
#deb http://www.afulinux.de/debian lenny ax25start linkt
#deb-src http://www.afulinux.de/debian lenny ax25start linkt
deb http://debian.wgdd.de/debian stable main contrib non-free
deb-src http://debian.wgdd.de/debian stable main contrib non-free
deb http://debian.wgdd.de/debian lenny main contrib non-free
deb-src http://debian.wgdd.de/debian lenny main contrib non-free
deb http://debian.wgdd.de/debian sid main contrib non-free
deb-src http://debian.wgdd.de/debian sid main contrib non-free
deb-src http://debian.wgdd.de/debian unstable main contrib non-free
deb http://apt.steve.org.uk/lenny lenny main non-free contrib
deb-src http://apt.steve.org.uk/lenny lenny main non-free contrib

deb http://packages.dotdeb.org stable all 

deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ lenny main contrib non-free
deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ lenny main contrib non-free

deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ lenny main contrib non-free
deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ lenny main contrib non-free

deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main contrib
deb-src http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main contrib


#deb http://www.virtualbox.org/debian etch non-free

deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org/ lenny main
deb-src http://www.debian-multimedia.org/ lenny main

# Repositorios de Musix GNU+Linux /etc/apt/sources.list
deb ftp://musix.ourproject.org/pub/musix/deb/ ./
# Musix-testing
deb ftp://musix.ourproject.org/pub/musix/deb-testing/ ./

#deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ experimental main non-free contrib
#deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ experimental main non-free
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Re: Goodbye debian

[Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.]

Thus spoke Master Foo:
>Uncommented code can be a nightmare in ANY language!
and Nubi was enlightened.
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Re: Goodbye debian

[Hal Vaughan]

On Jun 25, 2009, at 4:37 PM, Roger Leigh wrote:


On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 08:30:33AM +0200, Javier Barroso wrote:

Hi,
2009/6/25 明覺 :

I do not have time to read your replies about another discussion
anymore for they are useless, and I do not feel happy with all you
debian guys, so I leave this mailing list, also debian has no
attraction to me anymore, I will stop using it from now.
As I have decalared, I will build my own OS and applications by a
"Only One Programming Lanuguage" way.
Good bye! :)


Your original question was about installing debian without perl, it  
is

not possible now. If you want to do it, you would have asked in
debian-devel, because debian users can't do anything with this issue.


Given the ghastliness of maintaining Perl code, rewriting it in
C++ does have a certain attraction.  However, one first has to
understand what the code *does*, and a few thousand lines of
uncommented regular expressions are a fairly impenetrable mess!


I was teaching myself 6502 Assembler in college while I was taking a  
course on the Vax 11/780.  My instructor had a rule in Assembler:  
EVERY line of code HAD to have a comment.  Most people had lame  
comments, like, "Transfer from register to memory."  I had learned  
from reading Nibble Magazine, which published programs for the Apple ] 
[, ][+, and //e computers so if I had a task to do, I'd put in  
comments like, "Take the given value and add the offset we need, then  
transfer it to use as an index."  That might be split over 2-3 lines  
of code, but the teacher commented that he liked my comments because  
it made it clear what the program was doing.  That was enough to start  
a lifelong habit.  I don't comment every line now, but I use block  
comments for sections and subroutines and that habit has made my life  
MUCH easier.


Also, by the time I started using Java, I had learned that many times  
when I write something, I'm revisiting later and have forgotten it, so  
making sure my Javadoc comments were clear enough that I wouldn't have  
to dig up the code just re-enforced that. I'm still surprised at the  
number of uncommented regex stuff I see in Perl.  If I'm using a regex  
that has ANY degree of complexity (other than pulling out, say, one  
string with a wildcard or two), then I comment that line of code  
specifically.


I've been thankful, many times, for the habit that teacher created  
with his requirements.


I might add that it's not just Perl, it really depends on who wrote  
the code.  Uncommented code can be a nightmare in ANY language!



Hal

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Re: OT: launching jobs in a combined serial parallel way

[Napoleon]

Douglas A. Tutty wrote:

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 10:05:20PM -0400, Scott Gifford wrote:

"Douglas A. Tutty"  writes:

On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 08:17:44PM -0400, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote:



While you may think its terribly inefficient, it isn't really.  A fancy
"wait" function is just polling anyway, you're just making it overt.

Just to clarify, wait(2) and the shell wait builtin do not poll, they
instruct the kernel to put the process to sleep until a child process
finishes, then wake it up and return from the wait call.  Because of
that they are very efficient.  Still, if the programs in question are
doing a great deal of work, the extra work required by polling will
not be very significant in comparison.


Isn't that just passing the polling on to the kernel?  At some level,
some process has to see if a pid exists, if not, wait a period, then
check again.  


Doug.




No, the OS doesn't poll, either.  It keeps track of waits and what they 
are waiting for, and when that event completes the os performs the 
required action.




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Re: Goodbye debian

[Roger Leigh]

On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 08:30:33AM +0200, Javier Barroso wrote:
> Hi,
> 2009/6/25 明覺 :
> > I do not have time to read your replies about another discussion
> > anymore for they are useless, and I do not feel happy with all you
> > debian guys, so I leave this mailing list, also debian has no
> > attraction to me anymore, I will stop using it from now.
> > As I have decalared, I will build my own OS and applications by a
> > "Only One Programming Lanuguage" way.
> > Good bye! :)
> 
> Your original question was about installing debian without perl, it is
> not possible now. If you want to do it, you would have asked in
> debian-devel, because debian users can't do anything with this issue.

Given the ghastliness of maintaining Perl code, rewriting it in
C++ does have a certain attraction.  However, one first has to
understand what the code *does*, and a few thousand lines of
uncommented regular expressions are a fairly impenetrable mess!

I've been maintaining the "sbuild" package in Debian for a few
years now.  It's written in Perl, and is a core part of our
package autobuilding infrastructure, also used by individual
developers for cleanly building packages prior to upload.  I once
had the desire to rewrite it in C++, but even for this one smallish
(but rather complex) program, this is a very time consuming
challenge.

It's taken several *years* of my spare time (I'm a Biologist IRL) to
refactor it do the point where it's mostly understandable and clean,
and this is not even yet complete.  Once this is finally done,
conversion is a remote possibility.  But this will likely never
happen due to the sheer man hours required, as well as the danger of
breaking such a critical tool.  If I was employed full-time to work
on it, it would only be a few months of work, but as it is, I have
my real job to do as well...  When you scale this problem up to all
the *working and tested* tools and programs currently used, one
would soon conclude that the cost/benefit of changing is too high.

Perl certainly has its place for more complex scripts; it's when
it gets to be too large and require long-term maintenence that one
finds it is less than ideal.  What I would give for static analysis
and compile-type type-checking!


Regards,
Roger

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Re: Can postfix misconfiguration lead to OS breakage?

[Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.]

In <4a43cd93.1c07d00a.02ca.3...@mx.google.com>, Sthu Deus wrote:
>Thank You for Your time and answer, Todd:
>> You can probably screw up any service if you try hard enough. Postfix is
>> relatively secure, at least when compared to sendmail. As root, though,
>> you're responsible for the security of your configurations if you
>> deviate from the defaults.
>
>Well. I did not press on it hard. I just made the service to do what it
> should. Yet I'm not a developer nor security expert and therefore do not
> know which security issues the software brings up just because something
> is not turned on or off. Here comes my question: is it possible to have
> such issues (that an attacker can get *root* privileges) or not.

Yes, it is possible.

It is not likely unless you are running, as part of the mail exchange and 
delivery process, (a) a script or binary you wrote yourself, as root (b) a 
script or binary that is not meant to be run as root, as root, or (c) a 
suid-root binary, as any user.

It is even less likely unless you are running, as part of the mail exchange 
and delivery process, a script or binary you wrote yourself, as non-root, 
and a local privilege escalation attack is released for the kernel or one of 
the suid-root binaries on your system.

There may be other vectors I haven't covered.  I have no formal security 
credentials and have never held a position that was security-focused.

You should educate yourself about security issues until you are fairly 
confident that you are safe or have a security expert audit your 
configuration.  At the end of the day, *you* are responsible for the 
security of your systems -- both free software and proprietary software 
(generally) explicitly disclaim any liability no matter what their marketing 
may say.

>Also it is interesting just out of curiosity - is it possible that some
>malicious software can remain in hardware somewhere if I reformatted the
>previously hacked install?

Can your kernel flash your BIOS?  In theory it could hide there and in 
whatever NVRAM your system has.

When you "reformat" do you simply repartition and recreate filesystems, 
leaving your MBR intact?  It could hide there.

It would take some effort and luck, but it could hide in data drives and 
wait for an unsuspecting user to run it, or add data directories to some 
users' PATHs by modifying their profile.
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Re: installing from usb

[Suno Ano]

 abdelkader> Hi, I followed the doc, to install lenny from usb. I put
 abdelkader> the full CD1 iso in the usb

Maybe using a network install when using an USB stick to install Debian
would do a better job for you?!

http://sunoano.name/ws/public_xhtml/debian_notes_cheat_sheets.html#install_debian_from_USB_stick

That way you do not really need to bother about "some CD" but actually,
what you install, are software packages scattered over a bunch of "CDs"
i.e. what you want is to only grab the software packages you need and be ok.


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Re: mounting ntfs partition

[Nima Azarbayjany]

Yes, you're right.  So can anyone tell me why is this message that the file
system is unknown in printed?

2009/6/25 Γιώργος Πάλλας 

> Nima Azarbayjany wrote:
>
>> Yes Johannes, I guess I just identified the problem.
>>
>> After the system is up everything works.  However, during start up a
>> message is printed that reports a failure: it says ntfs-3g is not a know
>> file type.  I don't remember the exact message but it clearly says the
>> driver is not available.
>>
>> After boot up everything works when the driver should be available.  I
>> changed the configuration so that the default ntfs module is used (which
>> provides read-only access) and it worked.  I don't have access to my PC now,
>> but adding the ntfs-3g driver to the initial ramdisk should solve the
>> problem, right?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Nima
>>
>
> I don't think that the initrd needs this driver. I think that filesystems
> other than root, they get mounted when the initrd image has finished its
> job...
>
> G.
>

Re: Version mismatch between kqemu module and qemu

[thveillon.debian]

Sthu Deus wrote:
> Thank You for Your time and answer, me:
> 
>> NOTE: kvm is based on qemu and uses the same command syntax, so it's easy to
>> confuse between KVM and QEMU.
> 
> While qemu hangs, kvm just works! - Excellent! Now, You say kvm is based on
> qemu, but I do not want to have the same thing twice - therefore I have tried
> to purge the qemu* w/ apt-get - interesting that it requires no dependency w/
> kvm. As I have no more install packages, therefore would not get not working
> VM, can You tell me if it is safe to purge the qemu yet kvm remain still
> working?
> 
> Thank You, again.
> 
> 

Hi,
No need for qemu, "kvm" package ships a modified version already. I use
kvm and I don't have qemu package installed.

Cheers.

Tom


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Re: Can postfix misconfiguration lead to OS breakage?

[Sthu Deus]

Thank You for Your time and answer, Todd:

> You can probably screw up any service if you try hard enough. Postfix is
> relatively secure, at least when compared to sendmail. As root, though,
> you're responsible for the security of your configurations if you
> deviate from the defaults.

Well. I did not press on it hard. I just made the service to do what it should.
Yet I'm not a developer nor security expert and therefore do not know which
security issues the software brings up just because something is not turned on
or off. Here comes my question: is it possible to have such issues (that an
attacker can get *root* privileges) or not.

Also it is interesting just out of curiosity - is it possible that some
malicious software can remain in hardware somewhere if I reformatted the
previously hacked install?


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Re: Version mismatch between kqemu module and qemu

[Sthu Deus]

Thank You for Your time and answer, me:

> NOTE: kvm is based on qemu and uses the same command syntax, so it's easy to
> confuse between KVM and QEMU.

While qemu hangs, kvm just works! - Excellent! Now, You say kvm is based on
qemu, but I do not want to have the same thing twice - therefore I have tried
to purge the qemu* w/ apt-get - interesting that it requires no dependency w/
kvm. As I have no more install packages, therefore would not get not working
VM, can You tell me if it is safe to purge the qemu yet kvm remain still
working?

Thank You, again.


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installing from usb

[abdelkader belahcene]

Hi,
I followed the  doc, to install lenny from usb.
I put the full CD1 iso in the usb

I succeed, untill the full image, it didn't search for the image in the usb,
it searced elsewhere ??  or may be it searched for other type of image !!!??

I THINK that because the error is : installer  image not found  ???I
have the image debian.iso both in the hard disk and usb ?? the image
corresponds to the installer version.!!


It would be wonderfull to  have a full installer ( containing  CD1 ) to put
it directly  on usb


thanks for help
bela

Visiontek ATI Radeon "All-In-Wonder" Delux card

[John W Foster]

Any one here using this card effectively with Linux?
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GNU Screen draws artifacts with Vim

[Amit Uttamchandani]

Hi,

I use screen extensively with Vim. Recently I tried a new color scheme
that has a grey background. When scrolling using the keyboard...black
artifacts are left behind where the cursor position was. My terminal
background is black.

This does not happen with putty.

Any ideas on which setting to use to have screen auto-refresh/redraw?

Thanks,
Amit


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Re: is it possible to install a desktop-manager without python and perl?

[Tom Furie]

On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 01:16:10AM +0300, Micha Feigin wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 13:17:33 +0100
> Tom Furie  wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 02:11:31PM +0800, 明覺 wrote:
> > > On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 12:36 AM, Micha Feigin 
> > > wrote:
> > 
> > > > is far from simple. There are things you can do in python in one line 
> > > > that you
> > > > would need 100s of lines of code with c.
> > > 100s of lines of C code? how about drop the 100 lines into a function?
> > 
> > You still need to put those 100s of lines of code in somewhere.
> 
> Thats not my problem. Even with python the 100s of lines are there behind the

I naver said it was your problem, I was responding to 明覺. My point
being that for him to drop those 100's of lines into a function and be
able to make it a one line function call, those 100's of lines of code
still have to be produced.

The thing with higher level languages, libraries, etc. is those 100's or
1000's of lines of code are all still there but someone else has done
the grunt work, and we get a nice easy way to make use of it.

Cheers,
Tom

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Need help with Mail::Sender

[Dennis Wicks]

Greetings;

Following the docs I have it working basically, but it is 
not handling html w/inline images correctly.


Instead of getting a html message with inline image it is 
sending a blank email with both the html and the jpg image 
as attachments.


Here is my program. Does anyone see the problem?

Many TIA!
Dennis

 === === program follows  === ===


#!/usr/bin/perl

use strict;
use warnings;
use Mail::Sender;

my $image = 'kitten.jpg';

my $sender = Mail::Sender->new( {
smtp=> 'smtpout.secureserver.net',
port=> '3535',
from=> 't...@mgssub.com',
auth=> 'LOGIN',
authid  => 't...@mgssub.com',
authpwd => 'xxx'
} );
ref $sender or die
  "Object creation failed: $Mail::Sender::Error\n";

my $recipients = 'gra...@mgssub.com';

 if (ref $sender->OpenMultipart({
   to => $recipients,
   subject => 'Test Sending HTML and inline message',
   boundary => '--boundarytest1',
   multipart => 'related'})) {
   $sender->Attach(
   {description => 'html body',
   ctype => 'text/html; charset=us-ascii',
   encoding => '7bit',
   disposition => 'NONE',
   file => 'test-inline.html'
   });
   $sender->Attach({
   description => 'kitten-1',
   ctype => 'image/jpg',
   encoding => 'base64',
   disposition => "inline; filename=\"$image\";\r\nContent-ID: ",
   file => "$image"
   });
 $sender->Close() or die "Close failed! $Mail::Sender::Error\n";
   } else {
   die "Cannot send mail: $Mail::Sender::Error\n";}



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Re: Debian Etch r8 64bit installation problem

[Jimmy Johnson]

Richard Pijnenburg wrote:

Hi,

I get the error while installing with the netboot.
I've also tried 3 different mirrors.

So, how to solve this? Or is this an error within the netboot installer?



This system I'm using now is from the latest Etch net-installer and I 
get no error, did you check the md5sum of the downloaded iso file and 
the burned cd?

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Re: [OT] Linksys wireless router on debian

[Raffaele Morelli]

First of all, thank you all.
I love debian and know the kindness of its users :-)

I am now browsing connected to the Linksys which has the dhcp turned
on as Jochen suggested.

But now, as Sjoerd suggested I need to setup wlan stuffs on the
Linksys from my debian box. 192.168.1.1 give me the web config for my
dsl modem.

-r


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Re: OT: launching jobs in a combined serial parallel way

[Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.]

In <20090625143028.ga7...@blitz.hooton>, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
>On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 10:05:20PM -0400, Scott Gifford wrote:
>> "Douglas A. Tutty"  writes:
>> > While you may think its terribly inefficient, it isn't really.  A
>> > fancy "wait" function is just polling anyway, you're just making it
>> > overt.
>>
>> Just to clarify, wait(2) and the shell wait builtin do not poll.
>> Because of
>> that they are very efficient.  Still, if the programs in question are
>> doing a great deal of work, the extra work required by polling will
>> not be very significant in comparison.
>
>Isn't that just passing the polling on to the kernel?  At some level,
>some process has to see if a pid exists, if not, wait a period, then
>check again.

No, it really doesn't.

At the kernel level, it is possible to add a function to a list of functions 
to be run when another process exits.  The wait/waitpid calls without a 
timeout basically do that and then put the waiting process to sleep.  Once 
the does process exits, the kernel runs through the list of registered 
functions and eventually calls one that wakes up the sleeping process.

True asynchronous / event-based programming is ultimately more efficient 
that polling solutions not because the polling is done elsewhere, but 
because the polling is eliminated entirely.  (It's actually rare to see much 
of an end-to-end improvement in throughput by moving the polling around.)
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Re: OT: launching jobs in a combined serial parallel way

[Scott Gifford]

"Douglas A. Tutty"  writes:

> On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 10:05:20PM -0400, Scott Gifford wrote:
>> "Douglas A. Tutty"  writes:
>> > On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 08:17:44PM -0400, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote:
>
>> > While you may think its terribly inefficient, it isn't really.  A fancy
>> > "wait" function is just polling anyway, you're just making it overt.
>> 
>> Just to clarify, wait(2) and the shell wait builtin do not poll, they
>> instruct the kernel to put the process to sleep until a child process
>> finishes, then wake it up and return from the wait call.  Because of
>> that they are very efficient.  Still, if the programs in question are
>> doing a great deal of work, the extra work required by polling will
>> not be very significant in comparison.
>
> Isn't that just passing the polling on to the kernel?  At some level,
> some process has to see if a pid exists, if not, wait a period, then
> check again.  

I don't believe so.  I believe that the parent process is suspended
completely, then when the child process exits, the kernel checks to
see if the parent process is currently waiting, then wakes it up.  So
the wakeup is initiated when the child process exits, not checked
periodically.

Perhaps a kernel hacker can confirm this, but looking in
$KERNEL_SRC/kernel/exit.c, sys_exit() calls do_exit() which calls
exit_notify(); that calls do_notify_parent() from signal.c, which
re-activates the parent process.

It's much like a blocking read(2) or select(2) is put to sleep by the
kernel, to be woken up again when the condition it's waiting for
occurs.

Scott.


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Debian Etch r8 64bit installation problem

[Richard Pijnenburg]

Hi,

I get the error while installing with the netboot.
I've also tried 3 different mirrors.

So, how to solve this? Or is this an error within the netboot installer?

On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 11:58 AM, Jimmy Johnson 
wrote:

Richard Pijnenburg wrote:

Hi all,

I've downloaded the newest PXE files from the mirror for the 64bit version.

I've tried 3 different mirrors but i still get the error regarding the key
signing which i had before also after the key change.

The 32bit version I've updated works perfectly but 64bit doesn't.

Is this a known issue?

Regards,

Richard

 

Just reinstall the key from your repos and that should should take care of
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Re: cannot install skype on unstable

[Mr. Wang Long]

On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 13:12, Jonathan
Wheelhouse wrote:
> Hi
>
> I used to have skype installed but I think a recent dist-upgrade got rid
> of it (now my wife _really_ wants it back).
>
> /etc/apt/sources.list has
> deb http://people.debian.org/~rafael/skype-amd64 ./
>
> # aptitude install skype
>
> produces
>
> The following packages are BROKEN:
>  libc6-i386
> The following NEW packages will be installed:
>  ia32-libs{a} ia32-libs-gtk{a} lib32asound2{a} lib32gcc1{a} lib32ncurses5{a} 
> lib32stdc++6{a} lib32z1{a} skype
> 0 packages upgraded, 8 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
> Need to get 55.8MB of archives. After unpacking 123MB will be used.
> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
>  libc6-i386: Breaks: ia32-libs (<= 2.7) but 2.7 is to be installed.
>              Breaks: ia32-libs-gtk (<= 2.7) but 2.7 is to be installed.
>              Breaks: lib32asound2 (<= 1.0.20-2) but 1.0.20-2 is to be 
> installed.
>              Breaks: lib32ncurses5 (<= 5.7+20090523-1) but 5.7+20090523-1 is 
> to be installed.
>              Breaks: lib32z1 (<= 1:1.2.3.3.dfsg-13) but 1:1.2.3.3.dfsg-13 is 
> to be installed.
>
>
> I'm not sure what's going on here; libc6-i386 seems to break the other
> libraries; apparently <= 2.7 but 2.7 is to be installed; that's still
> OK, isn't it?  Less than or equal to 2.7 still matches 2.7 so what's
> going on?
>
> --
> Jonathan
>
Hi,

Downgrading libc6 (and any other packages that would be broken by this
downgrading) to its previous version might be helpful. I installed
skype and those ia32-lib's several months ago, and now they are
preventing libc6 and 11 other packages upgrade to the newest version.

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Re: [OT] Linksys wireless router on debian

[alex]

Jochen Schulz wrote:

Raffaele Morelli:
  

1. assign a static ip to the WRT in the range of 192.168.1.0/24 but
different from the one of DSL modem



Most probably you will not need to do that since this is the default
behaviour of the WRT. The public (modem) interface gets its IP address
assigned automatically.

  

2. disable dhcp and routing on the WRT



Why?

  

3. connect the internet to the DSL modem and connect the WRT to the
modem using the eth ports (not the internet port on the WRT)



ACK. But to dial in, you probably have to tell the WRT your login
credentials. This is easily done in the web interface.

  

4. connect my debian box to the WRT and use dhcpclient to obtain a
valid ip address tunnelled to the WRT by the DSL modem



Ok, now I am sure you do not know what you are doing? :) But it doesn't
matter, just keep DHCP on the WRT enabled, plug in your Debian box and
try to dial in.

J.
  

I'm using that Linksys router, my setup is very simple
Internet  >Linux Router > Linksys Router
I keep the linux router in front for more flexibility ( tunelling, 
source routing , NAT etc ) , Linksys router does just dhcp and routing ( 
not NAT )

You could do the same


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Re: Synaptics touchpad two-finger scrolling

[Jerome BENOIT]

Hello,

I have a UnibodyMacBook with the ClickPad:
the box is a Lenny box running kernel 2.6.30

The two fingers stuff is working well (but not the secondary click).

synclient -l gives:
Parameter settings:
   LeftEdge= 0
   RightEdge   = 1280
   TopEdge = 0
   BottomEdge  = 800
   FingerLow   = 20
   FingerHigh  = 30
   FingerPress = 256
   MaxTapTime  = 150
   MaxTapMove  = 220
   MaxDoubleTapTime= 180
   SingleTapTimeout= 180
   ClickTime   = 100
   FastTaps= 0
   EmulateMidButtonTime= 75
   EmulateTwoFingerMinZ= 257
   VertScrollDelta = 5
   HorizScrollDelta= 0
   VertEdgeScroll  = 0
   HorizEdgeScroll = 0
   CornerCoasting  = 0
   VertTwoFingerScroll = 1
   HorizTwoFingerScroll= 1
   MinSpeed= 0.94
   MaxSpeed= 1
   AccelFactor = 0.0015
   TrackstickSpeed = 40
   EdgeMotionMinZ  = 30
   EdgeMotionMaxZ  = 160
   EdgeMotionMinSpeed  = 1
   EdgeMotionMaxSpeed  = 80
   EdgeMotionUseAlways = 0
   UpDownScrolling = 1
   LeftRightScrolling  = 1
   UpDownScrollRepeat  = 1
   LeftRightScrollRepeat   = 1
   ScrollButtonRepeat  = 100
   TouchpadOff = 0
   GuestMouseOff   = 0
   LockedDrags = 0
   LockedDragTimeout   = 5000
   RTCornerButton  = 2
   RBCornerButton  = 0
   LTCornerButton  = 3
   LBCornerButton  = 0
   TapButton1  = 1
   TapButton2  = 2
   TapButton3  = 3
   CircularScrolling   = 0
   CircScrollDelta = 0.1
   CircScrollTrigger   = 0
   CircularPad = 0
   PalmDetect  = 1
   PalmMinWidth= 10
   PalmMinZ= 200
   CoastingSpeed   = 0
   PressureMotionMinZ  = 30
   PressureMotionMaxZ  = 160
   PressureMotionMinFactor = 1
   PressureMotionMaxFactor = 1
   GrabEventDevice = 1

hth,
Jerome

Stackpole, Chris wrote:

From: Sjoerd Hardeman [mailto:sjo...@lorentz.leidenuniv.nl]
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 7:18 AM
Subject: Re: Synaptics touchpad two-finger scrolling

Sjoerd Hardeman wrote:

Hi list,

I had two-finger scrolling working with explicit lines in the

xorg.conf.
[snip]

yet in X it doesn't. Two-finger scrolling does not work, and trying
synclient of gsynaptics gives a message like

Can't access shared memory area. SHMConfig disabled?

Does anybody know what's going on?

Nobody? Should I file a bug for the driver?


I don't know if it is worth filing a bug report over yet, but I would at
least try to contact some of the dev's working on it. I have not seen
much discussion on two-touch devices on this list so I suspect that
there are not a lot of people using it.

In my experience, two touch is one of those things that people were
drooling over a couple months ago but now no one I know is using it
(even the Apple guys I know with the Macbooks and iPhones don't care).
*shrug* I am not saying that it is bad or isn't useful to people out
there, just that I don't know how much help you will get on just the
user lists when there are so few people using it. 


I usually don't advocate talking to the devs ( as I don't want to bother
them with trivial problems ) but they are probably the most likely to be
able to help you. I would check to see who the Synaptics devs are and
see if they hang out on a particular list / IRC. Then, if no answer,
maybe send them an email directly.

Good luck and have fun!

~Stack~

PS: Now watch as I find out a ton of people are using it on the list and
it is just the tiny bubble of people I interact with that don't. :-D
Haha!




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Re: OT: launching jobs in a combined serial parallel way

[Douglas A. Tutty]

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 10:05:20PM -0400, Scott Gifford wrote:
> "Douglas A. Tutty"  writes:
> > On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 08:17:44PM -0400, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote:

> > While you may think its terribly inefficient, it isn't really.  A fancy
> > "wait" function is just polling anyway, you're just making it overt.
> 
> Just to clarify, wait(2) and the shell wait builtin do not poll, they
> instruct the kernel to put the process to sleep until a child process
> finishes, then wake it up and return from the wait call.  Because of
> that they are very efficient.  Still, if the programs in question are
> doing a great deal of work, the extra work required by polling will
> not be very significant in comparison.

Isn't that just passing the polling on to the kernel?  At some level,
some process has to see if a pid exists, if not, wait a period, then
check again.  

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Re: [OT] Linksys wireless router on debian

[Jochen Schulz]

Raffaele Morelli:
> 
> 1. assign a static ip to the WRT in the range of 192.168.1.0/24 but
> different from the one of DSL modem

Most probably you will not need to do that since this is the default
behaviour of the WRT. The public (modem) interface gets its IP address
assigned automatically.

> 2. disable dhcp and routing on the WRT

Why?

> 3. connect the internet to the DSL modem and connect the WRT to the
> modem using the eth ports (not the internet port on the WRT)

ACK. But to dial in, you probably have to tell the WRT your login
credentials. This is easily done in the web interface.

> 4. connect my debian box to the WRT and use dhcpclient to obtain a
> valid ip address tunnelled to the WRT by the DSL modem

Ok, now I am sure you do not know what you are doing? :) But it doesn't
matter, just keep DHCP on the WRT enabled, plug in your Debian box and
try to dial in.

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Re: Synaptics touchpad two-finger scrolling

[Sjoerd Hardeman]

Stackpole, Chris wrote:

From: Stackpole, Chris [mailto:cstackp...@barbnet.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 8:44 AM
Subject: RE: Synaptics touchpad two-finger scrolling

[snip]

I usually don't advocate talking to the devs ( as I don't want to

bother

them with trivial problems ) but they are probably the most likely to

be

able to help you.


I re-read this after it was sent and decided that I don't like my
wording.
So just thought I would clarify that I am not trying to imply that you
have
a trivial problem. Just that since you have now tried the user list, you
should escalate up to the devs. :-)
Don't worry, I understood that. I'll wait for one more day and then try 
with the devs.


Sjoerd



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RE: Synaptics touchpad two-finger scrolling

[Stackpole, Chris]

> From: Stackpole, Chris [mailto:cstackp...@barbnet.com]
> Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 8:44 AM
> Subject: RE: Synaptics touchpad two-finger scrolling
[snip]
> I usually don't advocate talking to the devs ( as I don't want to
bother
> them with trivial problems ) but they are probably the most likely to
be
> able to help you.

I re-read this after it was sent and decided that I don't like my
wording.
So just thought I would clarify that I am not trying to imply that you
have
a trivial problem. Just that since you have now tried the user list, you
should escalate up to the devs. :-)

~Stack~


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RE: Synaptics touchpad two-finger scrolling

[Stackpole, Chris]

> From: Sjoerd Hardeman [mailto:sjo...@lorentz.leidenuniv.nl]
> Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 7:18 AM
> Subject: Re: Synaptics touchpad two-finger scrolling
> 
> Sjoerd Hardeman wrote:
> > Hi list,
> >
> > I had two-finger scrolling working with explicit lines in the
xorg.conf.
[snip]
> > yet in X it doesn't. Two-finger scrolling does not work, and trying
> > synclient of gsynaptics gives a message like
> >> Can't access shared memory area. SHMConfig disabled?
> >
> > Does anybody know what's going on?
> Nobody? Should I file a bug for the driver?

I don't know if it is worth filing a bug report over yet, but I would at
least try to contact some of the dev's working on it. I have not seen
much discussion on two-touch devices on this list so I suspect that
there are not a lot of people using it.

In my experience, two touch is one of those things that people were
drooling over a couple months ago but now no one I know is using it
(even the Apple guys I know with the Macbooks and iPhones don't care).
*shrug* I am not saying that it is bad or isn't useful to people out
there, just that I don't know how much help you will get on just the
user lists when there are so few people using it. 

I usually don't advocate talking to the devs ( as I don't want to bother
them with trivial problems ) but they are probably the most likely to be
able to help you. I would check to see who the Synaptics devs are and
see if they hang out on a particular list / IRC. Then, if no answer,
maybe send them an email directly.

Good luck and have fun!

~Stack~

PS: Now watch as I find out a ton of people are using it on the list and
it is just the tiny bubble of people I interact with that don't. :-D
Haha!


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Re: [OT] Linksys wireless router on debian

[Sjoerd Hardeman]

Raffaele Morelli schreef:
> 2009/6/25 Johannes Wiedersich :
>> Raffaele Morelli wrote:
>>> 2009/6/25 Jochen Schulz :
 Raffaele Morelli:
> I bought a LinkSys WRT54GL wirelss router and I am going to configure
> it to extend my DSL connection at home.
> I am not new to debian but network(ing) skills are modest.
> I am going to use it as a router connected to the dsl modem, i.e.
> 
> 1. assign a static ip to the WRT in the range of 192.168.1.0/24 but
> different from the one of DSL modem
> 2. disable dhcp and routing on the WRT
> 3. connect the internet to the DSL modem and connect the WRT to the
> modem using the eth ports (not the internet port on the WRT)
> 4. connect my debian box to the WRT and use dhcpclient to obtain a
> valid ip address tunnelled to the WRT by the DSL modem
Keep it simple. Connect the wan port to your dsl modem, and let the wrt
do its nat-routing. If your dsl modem has an address like 192.168.1.1,
then you have to choose an address from a different range for your wrt
router, eg 192.168.2.1, also set the netmask accordingly (255.255.255.0
in this case). This way you can still reach your dsl modem to set stuff
there.
The outbound address of your wrt can be provided by the dsl modem's dhcp
server. This will be blocked by the wrt, and clients of the wrt will
acquire their address from the dhcp server on the wrt router.
This is my setup, and works without any problems.

If you want your router to be reachable from the world, set the dsl
modem to forward all traffic to the wrt router. Similarly, if you have a
server behind the wrt, you can set forwarding (global or port based) in
your wrt.
Good luck!

Sjoerd



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Re: mounting ntfs partition

[Γιώργος Πάλλας]

Nima Azarbayjany wrote:

Yes Johannes, I guess I just identified the problem.

After the system is up everything works.  However, during start up a 
message is printed that reports a failure: it says ntfs-3g is not a 
know file type.  I don't remember the exact message but it clearly 
says the driver is not available.


After boot up everything works when the driver should be available.  I 
changed the configuration so that the default ntfs module is used 
(which provides read-only access) and it worked.  I don't have access 
to my PC now, but adding the ntfs-3g driver to the initial ramdisk 
should solve the problem, right?


Thanks,
Nima


I don't think that the initrd needs this driver. I think that 
filesystems other than root, they get mounted when the initrd image has 
finished its job...


G.


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Re: [OT] Linksys wireless router on debian

[Raffaele Morelli]

2009/6/25 Johannes Wiedersich :
> Raffaele Morelli wrote:
>> 2009/6/25 Jochen Schulz :
>>> Raffaele Morelli:
 I bought a LinkSys WRT54GL wirelss router and I am going to configure
 it to extend my DSL connection at home.
 I am not new to debian but network(ing) skills are modest.

 Does anyone own this device and running debian?
>>> Yes, I do. I am running OpenWrt on it, though.
>>>
 Any hint /solution about debian specific setup/trick is appreciated.
>
> Without following this thread to great detail, I think there are two
> points in question:
> - configure your WRT device to work with your existing dsl modem
> - configure your debian boxen to work with your device
>
> Where exactly are you stuck in this process?

Actually I am not stucked still, but I expect I surely will

> How did you configure the WRT?

I am going to use it as a router connected to the dsl modem, i.e.

1. assign a static ip to the WRT in the range of 192.168.1.0/24 but
different from the one of DSL modem
2. disable dhcp and routing on the WRT
3. connect the internet to the DSL modem and connect the WRT to the
modem using the eth ports (not the internet port on the WRT)
4. connect my debian box to the WRT and use dhcpclient to obtain a
valid ip address tunnelled to the WRT by the DSL modem


> Johannes

regards
-r


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Re: [OT] Linksys wireless router on debian

[Johannes Wiedersich]

Raffaele Morelli wrote:
> 2009/6/25 Jochen Schulz :
>> Raffaele Morelli:
>>> I bought a LinkSys WRT54GL wirelss router and I am going to configure
>>> it to extend my DSL connection at home.
>>> I am not new to debian but network(ing) skills are modest.
>>>
>>> Does anyone own this device and running debian?
>> Yes, I do. I am running OpenWrt on it, though.
>>
>>> Any hint /solution about debian specific setup/trick is appreciated.

Without following this thread to great detail, I think there are two
points in question:
- configure your WRT device to work with your existing dsl modem
- configure your debian boxen to work with your device

Where exactly are you stuck in this process?
How did you configure the WRT?

Johannes


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Re: [OT] Linksys wireless router on debian

[Raffaele Morelli]

2009/6/25 Jochen Schulz :
> Raffaele Morelli:
>>
>> I bought a LinkSys WRT54GL wirelss router and I am going to configure
>> it to extend my DSL connection at home.
>> I am not new to debian but network(ing) skills are modest.
>>
>> Does anyone own this device and running debian?
>
> Yes, I do. I am running OpenWrt on it, though.
>
>> Any hint /solution about debian specific setup/trick is appreciated.
>
> There isn't anything Debian specific, I think. What exactly are you
> trying to do and what did you try? The only mildly frustrating thing to
> configure is WPA. If you are not the console type of guy you might want
> to install wicd (which replaces Network Manager) which gives you a nice
> GUI to set up your Debian system.

Let's say I am the console type of guy with wicd installed :-)

I don't want to do something special, just setup the WRT correctly for
my wlan so... mildly frustrating things to do.
Anyway I would like to learn more about routing/dhcp/lan configuration stuffs

>
> Oh, and with wireless it is generally a good idea to try it first
> without any encryption and if that works, turn it on.

> J.

cheers
-r


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Re: Synaptics touchpad two-finger scrolling

[Sjoerd Hardeman]

Sjoerd Hardeman wrote:

Hi list,

I had two-finger scrolling working with explicit lines in the xorg.conf.
Yet, trying to keep up and using hal instead I edited
/usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/20thirdparty/11-x11-synaptics.fdi and added

On
1
1

to the synaptics section. When checking lshal, it all seems to work

udi = 
'/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/platform_i8042_i8042_AUX_port_logicaldev_input'
  info.capabilities = {'input', 'input.touchpad'} (string list)
  info.category = 'input'  (string)
  info.parent = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/platform_i8042_i8042_AUX_port'  
(string)
  info.product = 'SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad'  (string)
  info.subsystem = 'input'  (string)
  info.udi = 
'/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/platform_i8042_i8042_AUX_port_logicaldev_input'  
(string)
  input.device = '/dev/input/event13'  (string)
  input.originating_device = 
'/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/platform_i8042_i8042_AUX_port'  (string)
  input.product = 'SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad'  (string)
  input.x11_driver = 'synaptics'  (string)
  input.x11_options.HorizTwoFingerScroll = '1'  (string)
  input.x11_options.SHMConfig = 'On'  (string)
  input.x11_options.VertTwoFingerScroll = '1'  (string)
  linux.device_file = '/dev/input/event13'  (string)
  linux.hotplug_type = 2  (0x2)  (int)
  linux.subsystem = 'input'  (string)
  linux.sysfs_path = '/sys/class/input/input13/event13'  (string)

yet in X it doesn't. Two-finger scrolling does not work, and trying
synclient of gsynaptics gives a message like

Can't access shared memory area. SHMConfig disabled?


Does anybody know what's going on?

Nobody? Should I file a bug for the driver?

Sjoerd



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Re: Goodbye debian

[Daryl Styrk]

On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 07:08:34AM -0500, Allen Meyers wrote:
> I have not followed this thread and getting in only at the end but it
> caught my attention simply because I left Ubuntu for the very same
> reason, but my ire was directed towards the idiots not the experienced
> users.
> I have tried 6 Linux OS to date and without a doubt it is far superior
> to the other I have tried and I will continue with "you guys"

Everyone climbs the tree soon enough.. 

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Re: Goodbye debian

[Allen Meyers]

On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 6:33 AM, Daryl Styrk wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 08:26:25AM +0800, 明覺 wrote:
>> I do not have time to read your replies about another discussion
>> anymore for they are useless, and I do not feel happy with all you
>> debian guys, so I leave this mailing list, also debian has no
>> attraction to me anymore, I will stop using it from now.
>> As I have decalared, I will build my own OS and applications by a
>> "Only One Programming Lanuguage" way.
>> Good bye! :)
>
> Ah.. Progress in Debian how nice...
>
> --
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> Naples FL, USA
I have not followed this thread and getting in only at the end but it
caught my attention simply because I left Ubuntu for the very same
reason, but my ire was directed towards the idiots not the experienced
users.
I have tried 6 Linux OS to date and without a doubt it is far superior
to the other I have tried and I will continue with "you guys"

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Re: [OT] Linksys wireless router on debian

[Jochen Schulz]

Raffaele Morelli:
> 
> I bought a LinkSys WRT54GL wirelss router and I am going to configure
> it to extend my DSL connection at home.
> I am not new to debian but network(ing) skills are modest.
> 
> Does anyone own this device and running debian?

Yes, I do. I am running OpenWrt on it, though.

> Any hint /solution about debian specific setup/trick is appreciated.

There isn't anything Debian specific, I think. What exactly are you
trying to do and what did you try? The only mildly frustrating thing to
configure is WPA. If you are not the console type of guy you might want
to install wicd (which replaces Network Manager) which gives you a nice
GUI to set up your Debian system.

Oh, and with wireless it is generally a good idea to try it first
without any encryption and if that works, turn it on.

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Re: Problem with apache2

[Javier Barroso]

On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 1:30 PM, Jesus arteche wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have an Apache2 server, it is working with 2 virtual directories, with the
> next conf:
>
>
>
> NameVirtualHost *
> 
>     ServerAdmin dpto.siste...@acme.es
>     ServerName web1.acme.com
>     DocumentRoot /var/www/web1/web/
>     
>     Options Indexes MultiViews
>     AllowOverride None
>     Order allow,deny
>     allow from all
>     
>
>     
>    DAV On
>    AuthType Basic
>    AuthName "webdav"
>    AuthUserFile /var/www/web1/passwd.dav
>    Require valid-user
>    
>     # Logfiles
>     ErrorLog  /var/www/web1/logs/error.log
>     CustomLog /var/www/web1/logs/access.log combined
>
>
>
> 
>
>
>
> #
> #  Example.org (/etc/apache2/sites-available/www.example.org)
> #
> 
>     ServerAdmin dpto.siste...@acme.es
>     ServerName  web2.acme.es
>
>     # Indexes + Directory Root.
>     DirectoryIndex auth.php
>     DocumentRoot /var/www/web2/
>
>
>     # Logfiles
>     ErrorLog  /var/www/web2/logs/error.log
>     CustomLog /var/www/web2/logs/access.log combined
> 
>
> The problem is that when I try to access http://web1.acme.es everything is
> ok, the browser ask me for a password and the show me the files, but when i
> try to access http://web1_acme_es_ip/web1 it shos me the files without ask
> me any password, i need to solve this security failure. Someone knows how
> can i do it?
Reverse the order [1] and your ip will be server by web2.acme.com.

Did you clear auth cache before access these files by ip ?

[1] From http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/vhosts/examples.html
" Due to the fact that www.example1.com is first in the configuration
file, it has the highest priority and can be seen as the default or
primary server. That means that if a request is received that does not
match one of the specified ServerName directives, it will be served by
this first VirtualHost."


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Re: Goodbye debian

[Daryl Styrk]

On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 08:26:25AM +0800, 明覺 wrote:
> I do not have time to read your replies about another discussion
> anymore for they are useless, and I do not feel happy with all you
> debian guys, so I leave this mailing list, also debian has no
> attraction to me anymore, I will stop using it from now.
> As I have decalared, I will build my own OS and applications by a
> "Only One Programming Lanuguage" way.
> Good bye! :)

Ah.. Progress in Debian how nice... 

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Problem with apache2

[Jesus arteche]

Hello,

I have an Apache2 server, it is working with 2 virtual directories, with the
next conf:



NameVirtualHost *

ServerAdmin dpto.siste...@acme.es
ServerName web1.acme.com
DocumentRoot /var/www/web1/web/

Options Indexes MultiViews
AllowOverride None
Order allow,deny
allow from all



   DAV On
   AuthType Basic
   AuthName "webdav"
   AuthUserFile /var/www/web1/passwd.dav
   Require valid-user
   
# Logfiles
ErrorLog  /var/www/web1/logs/error.log
CustomLog /var/www/web1/logs/access.log combined







#
#  Example.org (/etc/apache2/sites-available/www.example.org)
#

ServerAdmin dpto.siste...@acme.es
ServerName  web2.acme.es

# Indexes + Directory Root.
DirectoryIndex auth.php
DocumentRoot /var/www/web2/


# Logfiles
ErrorLog  /var/www/web2/logs/error.log
CustomLog /var/www/web2/logs/access.log combined


The problem is that when I try to access http://web1.acme.es everything is
ok, the browser ask me for a password and the show me the files, but when i
try to access http://web1_acme_es_ip/web1 it shos me the files without ask
me any password, i need to solve this security failure. Someone knows how
can i do it?

Thank you very much

Re: cannot install skype on unstable

[Amar Cosic]

On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 1:13 PM, Jonathan Wheelhouse <
jonathan.wheelho...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Sjoerd Hardeman  writes:
>
> > Jonathan Wheelhouse schreef:
> >> Andreas Juch  writes:
> >>
> >>> Am Wed, 24 Jun 2009 21:27:25 +1000
> >>> schrieb Jonathan Wheelhouse :
> >>>
>  Andrei Popescu  writes:
> 
> > On Mon,22.Jun.09, 15:12:18, Jonathan Wheelhouse wrote:
> >> Hi
> >>
> >> I used to have skype installed but I think a recent dist-upgrade
> >> got rid of it (now my wife _really_ wants it back).
> >>
> >> /etc/apt/sources.list has
> >> deb 
> >> http://people.debian.org/~rafael/skype-amd64./
> >>
> >> # aptitude install skype
> >>
> >> produces
> >>
> >> The following packages are BROKEN:
> >>   libc6-i386
> >> The following NEW packages will be installed:
> >>   ia32-libs{a} ia32-libs-gtk{a} lib32asound2{a} lib32gcc1{a}
> >> lib32ncurses5{a} lib32stdc++6{a} lib32z1{a} skype 0 packages
> >> upgraded, 8 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need
> >> to get 55.8MB of archives. After unpacking 123MB will be used. The
> >> following packages have unmet dependencies: libc6-i386: Breaks:
> >> ia32-libs (<= 2.7) but 2.7 is to be installed. Breaks:
> >> ia32-libs-gtk (<= 2.7) but 2.7 is to be installed. Breaks:
> >> lib32asound2 (<= 1.0.20-2) but 1.0.20-2 is to be installed.
> >> Breaks: lib32ncurses5 (<= 5.7+20090523-1) but 5.7+20090523-1 is to
> >> be installed. Breaks: lib32z1 (<= 1:1.2.3.3.dfsg-13) but
> >> 1:1.2.3.3.dfsg-13 is to be installed.
> >   ^^
>  
> >> Anyhow, hopefully the maintainers will make the ia32-libs etc
> >> installable with libc6-i386 so I can get skype working.
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >> --
> >> Jonathan
> > I use the 64bit version for ubuntu,
> > http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-linux-ubuntu-amd64. Works great on
> testing.
>
> Thanks for your suggestion but ...
>
> lappy:/home/jonathan/dwhelper# dpkg -i skype_ubuntu-2.0.0.72-1_amd64.deb
> (Reading database ... 167561 files and directories currently installed.)
> Preparing to replace skype 2.0.0.72-1 (using
> skype_ubuntu-2.0.0.72-1_amd64.deb) ...
> Unpacking replacement skype ...
> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of skype:
>  skype depends on lib32stdc++6 (>= 4.1.1-21); however:
>  Package lib32stdc++6 is not installed.
>  skype depends on lib32asound2 (>> 1.0.14); however:
>  Package lib32asound2 is not installed.
>  skype depends on ia32-libs (>= 1.6); however:
>  Package ia32-libs is not installed.
>  skype depends on lib32gcc1 (>= 1:4.1.1-21+ia32.libs.1.19); however:
>  Package lib32gcc1 is not installed.
> dpkg: error processing skype (--install):
>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
> Processing triggers for desktop-file-utils ...
> Errors were encountered while processing:
>  skype
>
>
> And I can't install those packages; I get unresolvable dependency
> errors.
>
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Re: cannot install skype on unstable

[Jonathan Wheelhouse]

Sjoerd Hardeman  writes:

> Jonathan Wheelhouse schreef:
>> Andreas Juch  writes:
>> 
>>> Am Wed, 24 Jun 2009 21:27:25 +1000
>>> schrieb Jonathan Wheelhouse :
>>>
 Andrei Popescu  writes:

> On Mon,22.Jun.09, 15:12:18, Jonathan Wheelhouse wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> I used to have skype installed but I think a recent dist-upgrade
>> got rid of it (now my wife _really_ wants it back).
>>
>> /etc/apt/sources.list has 
>> deb http://people.debian.org/~rafael/skype-amd64 ./
>>
>> # aptitude install skype
>>
>> produces
>>
>> The following packages are BROKEN:
>>   libc6-i386 
>> The following NEW packages will be installed:
>>   ia32-libs{a} ia32-libs-gtk{a} lib32asound2{a} lib32gcc1{a}
>> lib32ncurses5{a} lib32stdc++6{a} lib32z1{a} skype 0 packages
>> upgraded, 8 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need
>> to get 55.8MB of archives. After unpacking 123MB will be used. The
>> following packages have unmet dependencies: libc6-i386: Breaks:
>> ia32-libs (<= 2.7) but 2.7 is to be installed. Breaks:
>> ia32-libs-gtk (<= 2.7) but 2.7 is to be installed. Breaks:
>> lib32asound2 (<= 1.0.20-2) but 1.0.20-2 is to be installed.
>> Breaks: lib32ncurses5 (<= 5.7+20090523-1) but 5.7+20090523-1 is to
>> be installed. Breaks: lib32z1 (<= 1:1.2.3.3.dfsg-13) but
>> 1:1.2.3.3.dfsg-13 is to be installed.
>   ^^
 
>> Anyhow, hopefully the maintainers will make the ia32-libs etc
>> installable with libc6-i386 so I can get skype working.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> --
>> Jonathan
> I use the 64bit version for ubuntu,
> http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-linux-ubuntu-amd64. Works great on testing.

Thanks for your suggestion but ...

lappy:/home/jonathan/dwhelper# dpkg -i skype_ubuntu-2.0.0.72-1_amd64.deb 
(Reading database ... 167561 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace skype 2.0.0.72-1 (using skype_ubuntu-2.0.0.72-1_amd64.deb) 
...
Unpacking replacement skype ...
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of skype:
 skype depends on lib32stdc++6 (>= 4.1.1-21); however:
  Package lib32stdc++6 is not installed.
 skype depends on lib32asound2 (>> 1.0.14); however:
  Package lib32asound2 is not installed.
 skype depends on ia32-libs (>= 1.6); however:
  Package ia32-libs is not installed.
 skype depends on lib32gcc1 (>= 1:4.1.1-21+ia32.libs.1.19); however:
  Package lib32gcc1 is not installed.
dpkg: error processing skype (--install):
 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
Processing triggers for desktop-file-utils ...
Errors were encountered while processing:
 skype


And I can't install those packages; I get unresolvable dependency
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Re: [OT] Linksys wireless router on debian

[Lisi Reisz]

On Thursday 25 June 2009 11:24:23 Raffaele Morelli wrote:
> 2009/6/25 Tony Baldwin :
> > On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 10:27:59AM +0200, Raffaele Morelli wrote:
> >> Hi you all,
> >>
> >> I bought a LinkSys WRT54GL wirelss router and I am going to configure
> >> it to extend my DSL connection at home.
> >> I am not new to debian but network(ing) skills are modest.
> >>
> >> Does anyone own this device and running debian?
> >> Any hint /solution about debian specific setup/trick is appreciated.
> >
> > That's my router.
> > I didn't do a thing to it.
> > I have two debian desktops connected via ethernet and 3 ubuntu
> > laptops connected via wifi all sharing the internet connection.
> > I haven't actually networked the machines, beyond sharing the internet
> > connection, though.
> > I just use sshs and sshfs to move files around, etc.
> > My networking fu is about as sharp as a mud puddle after a thunderstorm.
> >
> > /tony
>
> Reading the user manual  it shows that I must use the WRT in
> conjunction with my dsl modem/router.
> Is this mandatory or what?

Yes - you need a DSL modem to connect to the Internet, and the LinkSys WRT54GL 
wireless router does not contain one, so must be connected to one for access 
to the Internet.

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Re: Query on Debian 5.0.1 -- Installation of DVD2,3,4,5 & updates dvd

[Lisi Reisz]

> Dimple Patel wrote:
> > Thank you for the clarification.  But if I use 'apt-cdrom add', i
> > think it will ask me to load the DVD everytime.

Johannes Wiedersichwrote
> Why do you think that?

On Thursday 25 June 2009 11:08:30 Dimple Patel wrote:
> The reason why I think that way is, that is wot had happened when I tried
> 'apt-cdrom add' on my friend's laptop.

I also find that.  If I don't want that to happen, I comment the (in my case) 
CD out in the sources.list.

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Re: About i18n dir in ftp debian sid contrib and non-free

[Javier Barroso]

On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 11:18 AM, Javier Barroso wrote:
> Hi list,
>
> I'm having trouble configuring apt-cacher-ng with apache2 like proxypass.
>
> Without any proxy, Translation-es files from sid/contrib and
> sid/non-free are ignore (they doesn't exists)
> # aptitude update
> Obj http://ftp.es.debian.org sid Release.gpg
> Obj http://ftp.es.debian.org sid/main Translation-es
> Ign http://ftp.es.debian.org sid/contrib Translation-es
> Ign http://ftp.es.debian.org sid/non-free Translation-es
> Obj http://ftp.es.debian.org sid Release
> Obj http://ftp.fi.debian.org sid Release.gpg
> Obj http://ftp.es.debian.org sid/main Packages/DiffIndex
> Obj http://ftp.fi.debian.org sid Release
> Obj http://ftp.es.debian.org sid/contrib Packages/DiffIndex
> Obj http://ftp.es.debian.org sid/non-free Packages/DiffIndex
> Obj http://ftp.fi.debian.org sid/main Sources/DiffIndex
> Obj http://ftp.fi.debian.org sid/contrib Sources/DiffIndex
> Obj http://ftp.fi.debian.org sid/non-free Sources/DiffIndex
>
> I suppose I can ignore this issue, but could be better downloading a
> empty? file or aptitude doesn't search these files.
>
> With apt-cacher-ng configured via 02proxy apt hook, aptitude show me
> everything idem.
>
> But I would like do it transparently, with apache proxypass. My
> apache2 config for this virtual host is:
>
> 
> ServerName debian-ng
>
> CustomLog /var/log/apache2/debian/access.log combined
> ErrorLog /var/log/apache2/debian/error.log
>  ProxyRequests Off
>  
>  Order deny,allow
>  Allow from all
>  
>  ProxyPass /debian http://debian-ng:3142/ftp.fi.debian.org/debian timeout=5
>  ProxyPassReverse /debian http://debian-ng:3142/ftp.fi.debian.org/debian
> 
>
> Then with "deb http://debian-ng/debian main contrib non-free" in my
> sources.list and not proxy conf in apt conf, aptitude shows me:
> # aptitude update
> Des:1 http://debian-ng sid Release.gpg [835B]
> Obj http://debian-ng sid/main Translation-es
> Ign http://debian-ng sid/contrib Translation-es
> Err http://debian-ng sid/non-free Translation-es
>  Error leyendo del servidor, el lado remoto cerró la conexión.
>
> My translation (if you don't understand spanish):
> Error reading server, remote side closed connexion
>
> Do you know any workaround ? or debian should have i18n directory in
> contrib/non-free ?
As workaround I added rewrite rules to apache2.conf, and create a new
empty Translation-es.bz2 in my web server:

RewriteRule /debian/dists/sid/contrib/i18n/Translation-es.bz2
/Translation-es.bz2 [PT]
RewriteRule /debian/dists/sid/non-free/i18n/Translation-es.bz2
/Translation-es.bz2 [PT]

It is not the finnest solution, but it seems to work.


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Re: [OT] Linksys wireless router on debian

[Raffaele Morelli]

2009/6/25 Tony Baldwin :
> On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 10:27:59AM +0200, Raffaele Morelli wrote:
>> Hi you all,
>>
>> I bought a LinkSys WRT54GL wirelss router and I am going to configure
>> it to extend my DSL connection at home.
>> I am not new to debian but network(ing) skills are modest.
>>
>> Does anyone own this device and running debian?
>> Any hint /solution about debian specific setup/trick is appreciated.
>>
>
> That's my router.
> I didn't do a thing to it.
> I have two debian desktops connected via ethernet and 3 ubuntu
> laptops connected via wifi all sharing the internet connection.
> I haven't actually networked the machines, beyond sharing the internet
> connection, though.
> I just use sshs and sshfs to move files around, etc.
> My networking fu is about as sharp as a mud puddle after a thunderstorm.
>
> /tony

Reading the user manual  it shows that I must use the WRT in
conjunction with my dsl modem/router.
Is this mandatory or what?

I am told that my configuration should be.

- DSL Router: operating as dhcp client vs WAN, acting as a getaway for the WRT)
- WRT: configured with a static IP address (!= from the one assigned
by my ISP to my DSL router), packets are routed to the DSL router
which configured as default getaway
- My PC's connected to the WRT and using dchp client to obtain IP addresses

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Re: Query on Debian 5.0.1 -- Installation of DVD2,3,4,5 & updates dvd

[Dimple Patel]

[Please keep the discussion on the list so that others can contribute as
well.]
Sorry didnt realise.  

The reason why I think that way is, that is wot had happened when I tried 
'apt-cdrom add' on my friend's laptop.

I wud like to add the ISO image to the repository coz our network connection is 
very slow at office :-)  But am not sure whether that is the right way to do it.

Regards,

Dimple.

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wrote:

From: Johannes Wiedersich 
Subject: Re: Query on Debian 5.0.1 -- Installation of DVD2,3,4,5 & updates dvd
To: "Dimple Patel" , "Debian Users" 

Date: Thursday, 25 June, 2009, 3:03 PM

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[Please keep the discussion on the list so that others can contribute as
well.]

Dimple Patel wrote:
> Thank you for the clarification.  But if I use 'apt-cdrom add', i
> think it will ask me to load the DVD everytime. 

Why do you think that?

from man apt-cdrom:
DESCRIPTION
       apt-cdrom is used to add a new CDROM to APTs list of available
sources.

>                                                 I have the iso image
> files.  Can i add them to the repositories, instead of using
> 'apt-cdrom add'?

I think that this is what apt-cdrom does. (I don't use apt-cdrom myself,
though, I install from the online resources.)

Johannes
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Re: Query on Debian 5.0.1 -- Installation of DVD2,3,4,5 & updates dvd

[Johannes Wiedersich]

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[Please keep the discussion on the list so that others can contribute as
well.]

Dimple Patel wrote:
> Thank you for the clarification.  But if I use 'apt-cdrom add', i
> think it will ask me to load the DVD everytime. 

Why do you think that?

from man apt-cdrom:
DESCRIPTION
   apt-cdrom is used to add a new CDROM to APTs list of available
sources.

> I have the iso image
> files.  Can i add them to the repositories, instead of using
> 'apt-cdrom add'?

I think that this is what apt-cdrom does. (I don't use apt-cdrom myself,
though, I install from the online resources.)

Johannes
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Re: [OT] Linksys wireless router on debian

[Jerome BENOIT]

Hello Raffaele,

emDebian ( www.emdebian.org ) might be what you want, but it is not yet ready.

You may give a try to OpenWRT  ( www.openwrt.org ).

Jerome


Raffaele Morelli wrote:

Hi you all,

I bought a LinkSys WRT54GL wirelss router and I am going to configure
it to extend my DSL connection at home.
I am not new to debian but network(ing) skills are modest.

Does anyone own this device and running debian?
Any hint /solution about debian specific setup/trick is appreciated.

regards
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About i18n dir in ftp debian sid contrib and non-free

[Javier Barroso]

Hi list,

I'm having trouble configuring apt-cacher-ng with apache2 like proxypass.

Without any proxy, Translation-es files from sid/contrib and
sid/non-free are ignore (they doesn't exists)
# aptitude update
Obj http://ftp.es.debian.org sid Release.gpg
Obj http://ftp.es.debian.org sid/main Translation-es
Ign http://ftp.es.debian.org sid/contrib Translation-es
Ign http://ftp.es.debian.org sid/non-free Translation-es
Obj http://ftp.es.debian.org sid Release
Obj http://ftp.fi.debian.org sid Release.gpg
Obj http://ftp.es.debian.org sid/main Packages/DiffIndex
Obj http://ftp.fi.debian.org sid Release
Obj http://ftp.es.debian.org sid/contrib Packages/DiffIndex
Obj http://ftp.es.debian.org sid/non-free Packages/DiffIndex
Obj http://ftp.fi.debian.org sid/main Sources/DiffIndex
Obj http://ftp.fi.debian.org sid/contrib Sources/DiffIndex
Obj http://ftp.fi.debian.org sid/non-free Sources/DiffIndex

I suppose I can ignore this issue, but could be better downloading a
empty? file or aptitude doesn't search these files.

With apt-cacher-ng configured via 02proxy apt hook, aptitude show me
everything idem.

But I would like do it transparently, with apache proxypass. My
apache2 config for this virtual host is:


ServerName debian-ng

CustomLog /var/log/apache2/debian/access.log combined
ErrorLog /var/log/apache2/debian/error.log
 ProxyRequests Off
 
 Order deny,allow
 Allow from all
 
  ProxyPass /debian http://debian-ng:3142/ftp.fi.debian.org/debian timeout=5
  ProxyPassReverse /debian http://debian-ng:3142/ftp.fi.debian.org/debian


Then with "deb http://debian-ng/debian main contrib non-free" in my
sources.list and not proxy conf in apt conf, aptitude shows me:
# aptitude update
Des:1 http://debian-ng sid Release.gpg [835B]
Obj http://debian-ng sid/main Translation-es
Ign http://debian-ng sid/contrib Translation-es
Err http://debian-ng sid/non-free Translation-es
  Error leyendo del servidor, el lado remoto cerró la conexión.

My translation (if you don't understand spanish):
Error reading server, remote side closed connexion

Do you know any workaround ? or debian should have i18n directory in
contrib/non-free ?

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Re: [OT] Linksys wireless router on debian

[Tony Baldwin]

On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 10:27:59AM +0200, Raffaele Morelli wrote:
> Hi you all,
> 
> I bought a LinkSys WRT54GL wirelss router and I am going to configure
> it to extend my DSL connection at home.
> I am not new to debian but network(ing) skills are modest.
> 
> Does anyone own this device and running debian?
> Any hint /solution about debian specific setup/trick is appreciated.
> 

That's my router.
I didn't do a thing to it.
I have two debian desktops connected via ethernet and 3 ubuntu 
laptops connected via wifi all sharing the internet connection.
I haven't actually networked the machines, beyond sharing the internet
connection, though.
I just use sshs and sshfs to move files around, etc.
My networking fu is about as sharp as a mud puddle after a thunderstorm.

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[OT] Linksys wireless router on debian

[Raffaele Morelli]

Hi you all,

I bought a LinkSys WRT54GL wirelss router and I am going to configure
it to extend my DSL connection at home.
I am not new to debian but network(ing) skills are modest.

Does anyone own this device and running debian?
Any hint /solution about debian specific setup/trick is appreciated.

regards
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Re: mounting ntfs partition

[Nima Azarbayjany]

Yes Johannes, I guess I just identified the problem.
After the system is up everything works.  However, during start up a message
is printed that reports a failure: it says ntfs-3g is not a know file type.
 I don't remember the exact message but it clearly says the driver is not
available.

After boot up everything works when the driver should be available.  I
changed the configuration so that the default ntfs module is used (which
provides read-only access) and it worked.  I don't have access to my PC now,
but adding the ntfs-3g driver to the initial ramdisk should solve the
problem, right?
Thanks,
Nima



On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 8:26 AM, Johannes Wiedersich <
johan...@physik.blm.tu-muenchen.de> wrote:

> Nima Azarbayjany wrote:
> > I have been trying to use the disk-manager utility to mount my NTFS
> > partition on /dev/sda1.  The utility successfully identifies the
> partition
> > and has added the following line to my fstab:
> >
> > /dev/sda1/media/sda1ntfs-3gdefaults,locale=en_US.UTF-80
>  0
> >
> > The partition is not automatically mounted during boot up.  I am really
> > confused.  Can anyone tell what should I do?  I have installed the
> ntfs-3g
> > package.  The partition successfully mounts using the utility itself or
> the
> > mount command in terminal.  Should it not mount automatically at startup
> > when it has been added to fstab?
>
> Maybe the kernel tries to mount the partition at a stage when the
> required modules are not yet available.
>
> Does 'mount -a' (as root) work after bootup?
>
> Johannes
>
>

Re: Problem with Debian 4.0 security

[Bret Busby]

On Thu, 25 Jun 2009, Kousik Maiti wrote:


Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 12:03:04 +0530
From: Kousik Maiti 
To: Bret Busby 
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Problem with Debian 4.0 security

Are you login as root user?? From root you can't use lock screen facility.

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 12:50 PM, Bret Busby  wrote:


Hello.

I am running Debian 4.0 on this computer.

The facility Desktop -> Lock Screen, is not working.

The facility Applications -> Debian -> Screen -> Lock -> KTux, raises a
screensaver, but that screen can simply be closed, by clicking on the cross
in the top right corner of the window, and does not require a login, to
unlock the screen.

The facility Desktop -> Logout -> Switch User, goes to a login screen, but
then, when the screen is turned off, and, turned back on, some hours later,
the display is returned to how it was before using that facility, without
the login scren appearing, and, without logging in.

As, in these circumstances, the computer can apparently, only be secured,
by shutting it down, a security issue appears apparent.

As the above facilities for locking the screen, do not work properly, is
there any other reliable way to lock the screen, without losing the log in
session?

Thank you in anticipation.

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No.

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Re: Problem with Debian 4.0 security

[Bret Busby]

On Thu, 25 Jun 2009, Johannes Wiedersich wrote:



Bret Busby wrote:

I am running Debian 4.0 on this computer.

The facility Desktop -> Lock Screen, is not working.


It's quite probable that this is just a configuration issue. What is
your configuration?



Which configuration?

In which file would I find the specific configuration to which you 
refer?



If you are concerned about security, you should schedule your upgrade to
Debian "lenny" 5.0, which is the current version of Debian.



It doesn't look as nice.

<:{)}


Cheers,
Johannes


"So once you do know what the question actually is,
 you'll know what the answer means."


What was your question, exactly?



Actually, ...

The question was the last sentence/paragraph, before the Thank you 
sentence, in my original message.



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Re: Query on Debian 5.0.1 -- Installation of DVD2,3,4,5 & updates dvd

[Johannes Wiedersich]

Dimple Patel wrote:
> I have installed the Debian 5.0.1 base system using the first DVD.  I
> need to install the other dvds as well.  Can somebody let me know the
> procedure to install the other dvds of Debian?

You don't install dvds, you install software packages. Just install the
packages you need, the installer will fetch them from where they are
available (usually via the internet, but dvds are fine as well. The
installer will prompt you for the right dvd once they have been added
with 'apt-cdrom add'.).

Note that it is not possible nor desirable to install all programs
available for debian. (Some packages are conflicting. For example it
makes no sense to have more than one mail program listening for incoming
mails. It is possible to have several mail agents, though.)

Cheers,
Johannes


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Query on Debian 5.0.1 -- Installation of DVD2,3,4,5 & updates dvd

[Dimple Patel]

Hello All,

I have installed the Debian 5.0.1 base system using the first DVD.  I need to 
install the other dvds as well.  Can somebody let me know the procedure to 
install the other dvds of Debian?

Thanks in advance.

Regards,

Dimple


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Re: mounting ntfs partition

[Johannes Wiedersich]

Nima Azarbayjany wrote:
> I have been trying to use the disk-manager utility to mount my NTFS
> partition on /dev/sda1.  The utility successfully identifies the partition
> and has added the following line to my fstab:
> 
> /dev/sda1/media/sda1ntfs-3gdefaults,locale=en_US.UTF-800
> 
> The partition is not automatically mounted during boot up.  I am really
> confused.  Can anyone tell what should I do?  I have installed the ntfs-3g
> package.  The partition successfully mounts using the utility itself or the
> mount command in terminal.  Should it not mount automatically at startup
> when it has been added to fstab?

Maybe the kernel tries to mount the partition at a stage when the
required modules are not yet available.

Does 'mount -a' (as root) work after bootup?

Johannes


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