Re: Aucun son sur Asus notebook F6E

2009-08-24 Thread Fabien LUCE
Salut,

as tu installe la distrib orientée eeepc?

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On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 12:01:35AM +0200, Emmanuel wrote:
 Bonsoir la liste,
 
 J'ai installé une Debian Lenny sur un portable Asus F6Eseries.
 Tout c'est bien passé, mis à part pour le son et le firmware !
 
 En effet, je n'ai aucun son qui sort et pas grand chose sur notre ami
 Google concernant ce problème sur le F6Eseries.
 
 Auriez-vous des pistes à ce sujet ?
 
 Merci à toutes et à tous.
 
 Emmanuel.
 
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Re: [SOLVED] Re: raid 1 qui foire ?

2009-08-24 Thread steve
Le 23-08-2009, à 23:32:23 +0200, Sylvain Sauvage 
(sylvain.sauv...@metanoesis.net) a écrit :

 steve, dimanche 23 août 2009, 22:27:06 CEST
  
  Bonjour la liste,
 
 ’soir,
  
 […]
  PS : quelle est la meilleure traduction en français de « array » ?
 
   Dans ce cas, « matrice (de disque) ».
 
   Cf. http://www.granddictionnaire.com (Office québécois de la
 langue française, les propositions sont parfois un peu, euh, on
 dira belles-provinciales mais c’est bien fait.)


Merci.
 
 

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Re: [SOLVED] Re: raid 1 qui foire ?

2009-08-24 Thread Frédéric Massot
steve a écrit :
 Bonjour la liste,
 
 Bon je suis de retour et je me suis attaqué au remplacement du disque
 dur (sda) qui me donnait des soucis. La procédure est maintenant terminée avec
 succès. Pour les archives et pour ceux qui se retrouveraient dans la même
 situation que moi, voici comment j'ai fait.
 
[...]
 
 2) Remplacement du disque dur
 
 Alors que la machine est toujours allumée, je retire l'alimentation et
 le câble sata de l'ancien disque, le retire, et le remplace par le
 nouveau, le connecte et branche l'alimentation. syslog me montre que le
 nouveau disque est vu sous le nom /dev/sdc. (Au premier redémarrage, il
 deviendra /dev/sda, mais pour le moment c'est sdc.)

Tu as remplacé les disques à chaud, tu as un système hotplug ?

Le SATA est sensé supporter le hotplug, mais tout les chipsets et
drivers ne le supporte pas : http://linux-ata.org/driver-status.html

http://linux-ata.org/software-status.html#hotplug

 PS : quelle est la meilleure traduction en français de « array » ?

Matrice ou grappe, c'est selon que l'on préfère les mathématiques ou les
fruits.

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Problème tableau en sh et pas en bash

2009-08-24 Thread Alexandre DECORNY

Bonjour à la liste,

J'utilise depuis quelques années un script backup mysql maison en sh. Je 
me suis rendu compte qu'une maj sur un de mes serveurs debian testing 
plantait mon script.


Voici la partie du code incriminée :

#!/bin/sh
#TAB_BASE_SQL[0]=mysql
#TAB_BASE_SQL[1]=dotclear
#TAB_BASE_SQL[2]=bddtest2

Renvoi :

/root/backupweb.sh: 9: TAB_BASE_SQL[0]=mysql: not found
/root/backupweb.sh: 10: TAB_BASE_SQL[1]=dotclear: not found
/root/backupweb.sh: 11: TAB_BASE_SQL[2]=bddtest2: not found



Ce script continu de tourner sans problème sur mes serveurs debian stable.

Chose très étrange j'ai changé l'environnement d'execution par bash 
(#!/bin/bash) et maintenant mon script fonctionne à nouveau.


J'ai un peu chercher mais je ne trouve pas de documentation sur le 
sujet. Quelqu'un a t'il déjà rencontré ce genre de problème ? Avez vous 
vu passé un changelog au niveau de l'environnement sh concernant les 
tableaux ?


Par avance merci pour votre aide.

Alex

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Re: Problèm e tableau en sh et pas en bash

2009-08-24 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 10:34:53AM +0200, Alexandre DECORNY a écrit :

 Chose très étrange j'ai changé l'environnement d'execution par bash  
 (#!/bin/bash) et maintenant mon script fonctionne à nouveau.

Bonjour Alexandre,

le lien symbolique /bin/sh pointe désormais par défaut sur /bin/dash dans les
systèmes fraîchement installés. Les scripts nécessitant des fonctions
spécifiques à bash doivent exécuter bash spécifiquement.

S'agissant des systèmes mis à jour, /bin/sh devrait continuer à pointer sur
/bin/bash à moins que l'utilisateur n'accepte le changement lors d'un dialogue
Debconf. Si le changement est arrivé automatiquement, c'est un bug…

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Re: Problème tableau en sh et pas en bash

2009-08-24 Thread Julien Valroff
Le lundi 24 août 2009 à 17:40 +0900, Charles Plessy a écrit :
 
 S'agissant des systèmes mis à jour, /bin/sh devrait continuer à
 pointer sur
 /bin/bash à moins que l'utilisateur n'accepte le changement lors d'un
 dialogue
 Debconf. Si le changement est arrivé automatiquement, c'est un bug…

`dpkg-reconfigure dash' devrait permettre de vérifier cela (la priorité
debconf est peut-être mal ajustée sur ton système si la question ne t'a
pas été posée).

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Re: Problème tableau en sh et pas en bash

2009-08-24 Thread Alexandre DECORNY

Charles Plessy a écrit :

Le Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 10:34:53AM +0200, Alexandre DECORNY a écrit :
  
Chose très étrange j'ai changé l'environnement d'execution par bash  
(#!/bin/bash) et maintenant mon script fonctionne à nouveau.



Bonjour Alexandre,

le lien symbolique /bin/sh pointe désormais par défaut sur /bin/dash dans les
systèmes fraîchement installés. Les scripts nécessitant des fonctions
spécifiques à bash doivent exécuter bash spécifiquement.

S'agissant des systèmes mis à jour, /bin/sh devrait continuer à pointer sur
/bin/bash à moins que l'utilisateur n'accepte le changement lors d'un dialogue
Debconf. Si le changement est arrivé automatiquement, c'est un bug…

Amicalement,

  
Je viens de vérifier sur ce serveur, en effet le lien a changé vers 
dash. Je n'ai pas souvenir d'avoir autorisé ce changement. A moins que 
pour ce paquet la réponse par défaut est l'acceptation du changement de 
lien (ce serait étonnant).


En tout cas, je comprend mieux le pourquoi du comment :)

Merci

Alex

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Re: [SOLVED] Re: raid 1 qui foire ?

2009-08-24 Thread steve
Le 24-08-2009, à 10:06:52 +0200, Frédéric Massot 
(frede...@juliana-multimedia.com) a écrit :

 steve a écrit :
  Bonjour la liste,
  
  Bon je suis de retour et je me suis attaqué au remplacement du disque
  dur (sda) qui me donnait des soucis. La procédure est maintenant terminée 
  avec
  succès. Pour les archives et pour ceux qui se retrouveraient dans la même
  situation que moi, voici comment j'ai fait.
  
 [...]
  
  2) Remplacement du disque dur
  
  Alors que la machine est toujours allumée, je retire l'alimentation et
  le câble sata de l'ancien disque, le retire, et le remplace par le
  nouveau, le connecte et branche l'alimentation. syslog me montre que le
  nouveau disque est vu sous le nom /dev/sdc. (Au premier redémarrage, il
  deviendra /dev/sda, mais pour le moment c'est sdc.)
 
 Tu as remplacé les disques à chaud, tu as un système hotplug ?

Je ne sais pas si j'ai un système hotplug (comment vérifier ?), mais je
l'ai effectivement fait à chaud (mais après avoir noté comme failed le
disque sda). J'avais fait une tentative sans le faire, et le système a
tenu environ 2 minutes avant de se geler complètement. J'ai dû éteindre
sauvagement puis redémarrer, sans gros problème.
 
 Le SATA est sensé supporter le hotplug, mais tout les chipsets et
 drivers ne le supporte pas : http://linux-ata.org/driver-status.html
 
 http://linux-ata.org/software-status.html#hotplug

Bon vu ce lien, il doit être hotplug.
 
  PS : quelle est la meilleure traduction en français de « array » ?
 
 Matrice ou grappe, c'est selon que l'on préfère les mathématiques ou les
 fruits.

J'apprécie les deux ;-)

steve

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Re: Problème tableau en sh et pas en bash

2009-08-24 Thread Alexandre DECORNY

Julien Valroff a écrit :

Le lundi 24 août 2009 à 17:40 +0900, Charles Plessy a écrit :
  

S'agissant des systèmes mis à jour, /bin/sh devrait continuer à
pointer sur
/bin/bash à moins que l'utilisateur n'accepte le changement lors d'un
dialogue
Debconf. Si le changement est arrivé automatiquement, c'est un bug…



`dpkg-reconfigure dash' devrait permettre de vérifier cela (la priorité
debconf est peut-être mal ajustée sur ton système si la question ne t'a
pas été posée).

Julien

  
Le problème doit venir de moi. J'ai bien le dialogue qui apparait. Voila 
ce que c'est que d'intervenir sur un serveur pendant les vacances :)



Merci à vous,

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[Résolu] Re: Subversion impossible de contacter un dépot via http

2009-08-24 Thread Yann Cohen
[...]
Bonjour,

La mise à jour de la station de travail (apt-get dist-upgrade sur
squeeze) a remis le système en place et maintenant fonctionne.
Je ne sais pas pourquoi mais c'est opérationnel alors...


merci.
Yann

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Logiciel d'analyse de site visite

2009-08-24 Thread Daniel Huhardeaux

Bonjour,

quelqu'un utiliserai un outil simple à mettre en place et ayant un 
client utilisable sous Windows ou en connection http? Ce logiciel serait 
à installer sous Etch et servirai à pouvoir visualiser les sites visités 
depuis l'intranet.


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Re: Logiciel d'analyse de site visite

2009-08-24 Thread GanGan

essaye ceci :

http://www.system-linux.eu/index.php?post/2008/12/04/Statistique-pour-vos-sites-internet



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 Bonjour,
 
 quelqu'un utiliserai un outil simple à mettre en place et ayant un 
 client utilisable sous Windows ou en connection http? Ce logiciel serait 
 à installer sous Etch et servirai à pouvoir visualiser les sites
 visités 
 depuis l'intranet.
 
 Merci.
 
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[HS] Gestionnaire de fichier web

2009-08-24 Thread steve
Salut la liste,

Je cherche un gestionnaire de fichier avec interface web. Les
utilisateurs doivent pouvoir

° uploader et downloader des fichiers (avec possibilité de les chiffrer),
° les envoyer par mails via l'interface web,
° être avertis quand de nouveaux fichiers sont chargés,
° les déplacer dans l'arborescence,
° localisation de l'interface,
° être robuste, sécurisé
° autres ...


J'ai trouvé un truc qui s'appelle phpfilenavigator mais il semble au
point mort.

Auriez-vous svp d'autres suggestions ?

Merci d'avance,
steve


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Re: [HS] Gestionnaire de fichier web

2009-08-24 Thread Thomas Courbeil
Salut steve,
Regarde du coté de dmanager, il ne fait pas tout ce que tu souhaite,
mais il en fait pas mal
http://www.dmanager.org
Codialement

steve a écrit :
 Salut la liste,
 
 Je cherche un gestionnaire de fichier avec interface web. Les
 utilisateurs doivent pouvoir
 
 ° uploader et downloader des fichiers (avec possibilité de les chiffrer),
 ° les envoyer par mails via l'interface web,
 ° être avertis quand de nouveaux fichiers sont chargés,
 ° les déplacer dans l'arborescence,
 ° localisation de l'interface,
 ° être robuste, sécurisé
 ° autres ...
 
 
 J'ai trouvé un truc qui s'appelle phpfilenavigator mais il semble au
 point mort.
 
 Auriez-vous svp d'autres suggestions ?
 
 Merci d'avance,
 steve
 
 

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Re: Logiciel d'analyse de site visite

2009-08-24 Thread Daniel Huhardeaux

GanGan a écrit :

essaye ceci :

http://www.system-linux.eu/index.php?post/2008/12/04/Statistique-pour-vos-sites-internet
  
Merci mais j'ai du mal m'expliquer: je voudrai connaitre les sites 
*extérieurs visités* par les personnes de _mon intranet_, le contraire 
en somme ;-).



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Bonjour,

quelqu'un utiliserai un outil simple à mettre en place et ayant un 
client utilisable sous Windows ou en connection http? Ce logiciel serait 
à installer sous Etch et servirai à pouvoir visualiser les sites
visités 
depuis l'intranet.


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Re: Logiciel d'analyse de site visite

2009-08-24 Thread Kevin Hinault
Le 24 août 2009 22:51, Daniel Huhardeaux daniel.huharde...@tootai.com a
écrit :



Merci mais j'ai du mal m'expliquer: je voudrai connaitre les sites
 *extérieurs visités* par les personnes de _mon intranet_, le contraire en
 somme ;-).


Ce que tu veux c'est un proxy transparent avec des logs mais c'est de
l'espionnage ca tout de même ...

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Re: Logiciel d'analyse de site visite

2009-08-24 Thread Jean-Yves F. Barbier
Daniel Huhardeaux a écrit :
 Bonjour,
 
 quelqu'un utiliserai un outil simple à mettre en place et ayant un
 client utilisable sous Windows ou en connection http? Ce logiciel serait
 à installer sous Etch et servirai à pouvoir visualiser les sites visités
 depuis l'intranet.
 
 Merci.

wwwoffle ou squid, mais si ça n'est pas marqué dans le règlement intérieur
(que légalement, tout employé est censé avoir signé si l'entreprise veut
qu'il lui soit opposable), c'est totalement illégal (et ça coûte très cher).
1- poser la question au service juridique.
 
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Re: Logiciel d'analyse de site visite

2009-08-24 Thread GanGan

oui squid avec une interface espion

On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 01:13:12 +0200, Kevin Hinault hina...@gmail.com
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 Le 24 août 2009 22:51, Daniel Huhardeaux daniel.huharde...@tootai.com
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 écrit :



 Merci mais j'ai du mal m'expliquer: je voudrai connaitre les sites
 *extérieurs visités* par les personnes de _mon intranet_, le contraire
 en
 somme ;-).

 
 Ce que tu veux c'est un proxy transparent avec des logs mais c'est de
 l'espionnage ca tout de même ...
 

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Re: Logiciel d'analyse de site visite

2009-08-24 Thread Jean-Yves F. Barbier
GanGan a écrit :
 oui squid avec une interface espion
 

remarque y'a mieux: tcpdump, comme ça il est sur de ne rien manquer ;-)

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Re: [HS] Gestionnaire de fichier web

2009-08-24 Thread mlrx

steve a écrit :

Salut la liste,

Je cherche un gestionnaire de fichier avec interface web. Les
utilisateurs doivent pouvoir

° uploader et downloader des fichiers (avec possibilité de les chiffrer),
° les envoyer par mails via l'interface web,
° être avertis quand de nouveaux fichiers sont chargés,
° les déplacer dans l'arborescence,
° localisation de l'interface,
° être robuste, sécurisé
° autres ...


J'ai trouvé un truc qui s'appelle phpfilenavigator mais il semble au
point mort.

Auriez-vous svp d'autres suggestions ?

Merci d'avance,
steve




Bonjour Steve,
Même réponse que Thomas C., mais avec AjaXplorer.
http://www.ajaxplorer.info/wordpress/
Amicalement...


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iptables i pptp

2009-08-24 Thread dr_zgon

Witam wszystkich jako nowy użytkowanik forum. Mam problem ze skonfigurowaniem
firewalla na serwerze, żeby przepuszczał VPN (PPTP). Firewall bazuje na
regułach iptables. Nie wiem, ile czasu spędziłem na googlowaniu i szukaniu
odpowiednich reguł ale jestem bliski kapitulacji. Głównym założeniem VPN-a
ma być możliwość łączenia się z odległej lokalizacji z modemu po GSM
(iPlus). Problem polega na tym, że komputer łączy się siecią prywatną,
dostaje IP, ale nie ma łączności ani z serwerem, ani żadnycm innym
urządzeniem w sieci. (pingi nie wracają). Dopiero po ustawieniu default
policy na ACCEPT wszystko śmiga, stąd wniosek że brakuje jakichś
kluczowych reguł. W skrypcie do firewalla mam niezły burdel, wpakowałem tam
masę reguł, które miały mi w jakikolwiek sposób puścić pakiety po VPN,
jednak bez rezultatu. Oto kod:

==
#!/bin/sh 
echo -e \n\nSETTING UP IPTABLES FIREWALL... 
UNIVERSE=0.0.0.0/0 

LOIF=lo 
LOIP=127.0.0.1 

INTIF=eth0 
EXTIF=eth1 

INTNET=10.0.0.0/24 
INTIP=10.0.0.1/24 

EXTIP=xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx 
EXT_BROADCAST=xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx 
echo Loading required stateful/NAT kernel modules... 

/sbin/depmod -a 
/sbin/modprobe ip_tables 
/sbin/modprobe ip_conntrack 
/sbin/modprobe iptable_filter 
/sbin/modprobe iptable_mangle 
/sbin/modprobe iptable_nat 
/sbin/modprobe ipt_LOG 
/sbin/modprobe ipt_limit 
/sbin/modprobe ipt_state 
# 
/sbin/modprobe ipt_owner 
/sbin/modprobe ipt_REJECT 
/sbin/modprobe ipt_MASQUERADE 
/sbin/modprobe ip_conntrack_ftp 
/sbin/modprobe ip_conntrack_irc 
/sbin/modprobe ip_nat_ftp 
/sbin/modprobe ip_nat_irc 
echo Enabling IP forwarding... 
echo 1  /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward 
echo External interface: $EXTIF 
echoExternal interface IP address is: $EXTIP 
echo Loading firewall server rules... 
iptables -P INPUT DROP 
iptables -F INPUT 
#iptables -A INPUT -m mac --mac-source 00:19:D2:80:39:8B -j ACCEPT 
iptables -P OUTPUT DROP 
iptables -F OUTPUT 
iptables -P FORWARD DROP 
iptables -F FORWARD 
iptables -t nat -F 
### 
# allow vpn client 
iptables -I INPUT -p udp --dport 500 -j ACCEPT 
iptables -I OUTPUT -p udp --sport 500 -m state --state ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT 
iptables -I INPUT -p udp --dport 1 -j ACCEPT 
iptables -I OUTPUT -p udp --sport 1 -m state --state ESTABLISHED -j
ACCEPT 
#ESP/AH Stuff 
iptables -A INPUT -p 50 -m state --state ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT 
iptables -A OUTPUT -p 50 -m state --state NEW,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT 
iptables -A INPUT -p 50 -mstate --state NEW,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT 
iptables -A OUTPUT -p 50 -mstate --state ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT 
iptables -A INPUT -p 51 -m state --state ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT 
iptables -A OUTPUT -p 51 -m state --state NEW,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT 
iptables -A INPUT -p 51 -mstate --state NEW,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT 
iptables -A OUTPUT -p 51 -mstate --state ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT 
### 
#delete previous user chains 
iptables -X 
#reset counters 
iptables -Z 
#crate user chains 
iptables -N bad_tcp_packets 

iptables -N allowed 
iptables -N tcp_packets 
iptables -N udp_packets 
iptables -N icmp_packets 

# 
#bad_tcp_packets chain rules 
# 

iptables -A bad_tcp_packets -p tcp --tcp-flags SYN,ACK SYN,ACK \ 
-m state --state NEW -j REJECT --reject-with tcp-reset 
iptables -A bad_tcp_packets -p tcp ! --syn -m state --state NEW -j LOG \ 
--log-prefix New not syn: 
iptables -A bad_tcp_packets -p tcp ! --syn -m state --state NEW -j DROP 

# 
# allowed chain 
# 

iptables -A allowed -p TCP --syn -j ACCEPT 
iptables -A allowed -p TCP -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT 
iptables -A allowed -p TCP -j DROP 

# 
# TCP rules 
# 

iptables -A tcp_packets -p TCP -s 0/0 --dport 21 -j allowed #FTP 
iptables -A tcp_packets -p TCP -s 0/0 --dport 22 -j allowed #SSH 
iptables -A tcp_packets -p TCP -s 0/0 --dport 80 -j allowed #HTTP 
iptables -A tcp_packets -p TCP -s 0/0 --dport 113 -j allowed #IDENTD 
iptables -A tcp_packets -p TCP -s 0/0 --dport 9050 -j allowed #Radio
Horyzont 
iptables -A tcp_packets -p TCP -s 0/0 --dport 3350 -j allowed #RDP 
iptables -A tcp_packets -p TCP -s 0/0 --dport 1723 -j allowed #VPN 
# 
### 
iptables -A INPUT -p TCP -s 0/0 --dport 1723 -j allowed 
iptables -A FORWARD -p TCP -s 0/0 --dport 1723 -j allowed 
iptables -A OUTPUT -p TCP -s 0/0 --dport 1723 -j allowed 
iptables -A INPUT -i eth0 -p tcp --dport 1723 -j ACCEPT 
iptables -A INPUT -i eth0 -p gre -j ACCEPT 
# 
iptables -A INPUT -i eth1 -p tcp --dport 1723 -j ACCEPT 
iptables -A INPUT -i eth1 -p gre -j ACCEPT 
# 
iptables -A FORWARD -p 47 -m state --state NEW -i eth0 -o eth1 -j ACCEPT 
iptables -A FORWARD -p tcp -m state --state NEW --dport 1723 -i eth0 -o eth1
-j ACCEPT 
# 
iptables -A FORWARD -i eth0 -o eth1 -m state --state NEW -p gre -j ACCEPT 
iptables -A FORWARD -i eth1 -o eth0 -m state --state NEW -p gre -j ACCEPT 
iptables -A FORWARD -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT 
# 
iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -d $EXTIP -p gre -j DNAT --to $10.0.0.1 
# 


Re: iptables i pptp

2009-08-24 Thread Mariusz Kruk
On Mon, 2009-08-24 at 04:22 -0700, dr_zgon wrote:
 Witam wszystkich jako nowy użytkowanik forum. Mam problem ze skonfigurowaniem
 firewalla na serwerze, żeby przepuszczał VPN (PPTP). Firewall bazuje na
 regułach iptables. Nie wiem, ile czasu spędziłem na googlowaniu i szukaniu
 odpowiednich reguł ale jestem bliski kapitulacji. Głównym założeniem VPN-a
 ma być możliwość łączenia się z odległej lokalizacji z modemu po GSM
 (iPlus). Problem polega na tym, że komputer łączy się siecią prywatną,
 dostaje IP, ale nie ma łączności ani z serwerem, ani żadnycm innym
 urządzeniem w sieci. (pingi nie wracają). Dopiero po ustawieniu default
 policy na ACCEPT wszystko śmiga, stąd wniosek że brakuje jakichś
 kluczowych reguł. W skrypcie do firewalla mam niezły burdel, wpakowałem tam
 masę reguł, które miały mi w jakikolwiek sposób puścić pakiety po VPN,
 jednak bez rezultatu. Oto kod:

1. 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Point-to-point_tunneling_protocol#PPTP_security_concerns
2. Pośledź pakiety na interfejsach. Zobacz gdzie faktycznie giną. Potem
się zabierz za robienie bałaganu.

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Re: iptables i pptp

2009-08-24 Thread Wojciech Borowski
Dnia 2009-08-24, pon o godzinie 04:22 -0700, dr_zgon pisze:
 Witam wszystkich jako nowy użytkowanik forum. Mam problem ze skonfigurowaniem
 firewalla na serwerze, żeby przepuszczał VPN (PPTP). Firewall bazuje na
 regułach iptables. Nie wiem, ile czasu spędziłem na googlowaniu i szukaniu
 odpowiednich reguł ale jestem bliski kapitulacji. Głównym założeniem VPN-a
 ma być możliwość łączenia się z odległej lokalizacji z modemu po GSM
 (iPlus). Problem polega na tym, że komputer łączy się siecią prywatną,
 dostaje IP, ale nie ma łączności ani z serwerem, ani żadnycm innym
 urządzeniem w sieci. (pingi nie wracają). Dopiero po ustawieniu default
 policy na ACCEPT wszystko śmiga, stąd wniosek że brakuje jakichś
 kluczowych reguł. W skrypcie do firewalla mam niezły burdel, wpakowałem tam
 masę reguł, które miały mi w jakikolwiek sposób puścić pakiety po VPN,
 jednak bez rezultatu. Oto kod:
 

Witam

Rozumiem ze masz PPTP'a za natem, czyli 

modprobe ip_nat_pptp
modprobe ip_conntrack_pptp

bo bez tego ani rusz. 

Do tego przy PPTP uzyj protokołu -p gre. 

To tak na szybko bez czytania reguł, moze cos pomoze.


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Re: iptables i pptp

2009-08-24 Thread Mariusz Kruk
On Mon, 2009-08-24 at 13:46 +0200, Wojciech Borowski wrote:
 Rozumiem ze masz PPTP'a za natem, czyli 
 
 modprobe ip_nat_pptp
 modprobe ip_conntrack_pptp
 
 bo bez tego ani rusz. 

E, bez tego po prostu byłby problem z więcej niż jednym połaczeniem
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Re: iptables i pptp

2009-08-24 Thread Mariusz Sielicki
W dniu 24 sierpnia 2009 14:21 użytkownik Mariusz Kruk
k...@epsilon.eu.org napisał:
 On Mon, 2009-08-24 at 13:46 +0200, Wojciech Borowski wrote:
 Rozumiem ze masz PPTP'a za natem, czyli

 modprobe ip_nat_pptp
 modprobe ip_conntrack_pptp

 bo bez tego ani rusz.

 E, bez tego po prostu byłby problem z więcej niż jednym połaczeniem
 równocześnie.

Widze ze protokol GRE natujesz, a co z pakietami na tcp/1723 ?


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Re: Debian estropedado tras intalar adobe-flashplugin de Ubuntu

2009-08-24 Thread JL

Me parece que no habeis entendido mi problema.

Ya se que ma bajo de adobe.com el tar.gz , extraigo el archivo *.so 
resultante, lo meto en la carpeta plugins del navegador que proceda y a 
correr.


El problema es que no puedo acceder a los repositorios de debian, no 
puedo actualizar el sistema ni instalar nuevos paquetes, ni siquiera me 
arranca el Synaptic, ese es el problema,  y cada vez que hago  un purge 
o un install o lo que sea me dice que no puede porque el paquete 
adobe-flashplugin esta mal instalado/configurado, me da error tanto con 
el aptitude como con el apt-get, no puedor usar purge ni install ni 
remove ni na de na.


He leido vuestros consejos pero no me han funcionado. Lo que necesitaria 
saber es como puedo desinstalar el paquete adobe-flashplugin.



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Re: Instalar JDownloader en Debian Squeeze

2009-08-24 Thread JL

tq escribió:

Buenas compañeros.

Alguien tiene instalado y funcionando correctamente el JDownloader?

Lo he bajado del home mediante un script que tira de wget pero al 
momento de ejecutarse pone todo por demas de lento y debo terminar 
cerrando la sesión gráfica (KDE 4.2).


Desde ya muchas gracias a todos.-


A mi como me funciona en mi Debian Testing es usando openjdk , con 
sun-java no me va.



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[solucionado] Debian estropedado tras intalar adobe-flashplugin de Ubuntu

2009-08-24 Thread JL

Al final encontre la solucion en Google :P

Te vas a la carpeta /var/lib/dpkg/info y borras todos los archivos que 
se refieren al paquete en cuestion, que en mi caso han sido los que 
empiezan por adobe (son cuatro).


Despues ejecutamos en una consola de root dpkg -r 
--force-remove-reinstreq adobe-flashplugin . Y ya esta solucionado.



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Re: Debian estropedado tras intalar adobe-flashplugin de Ubuntu

2009-08-24 Thread Gtvo
El dom, 23-08-2009 a las 18:16 -0500, Marco escribió:
 
 
 2009/8/23 Galileo Galilei correo...@gmail.com
 El dom, 23-08-2009 a las 10:43 -0500, haldrik escribió:
 
  El 23 de agosto de 2009 09:35, Mauricio J. Adonis C.
  mike.alfa.2...@gmail.com escribió:
  El dom, 23-08-2009 a las 15:52 +0200, Manolo Díaz
 escribió:
 
   El Sun, 23 Aug 2009 09:12:33 +0200
   JL jl...@telefonica.net escribió:
  
JL escribió:
 Uso Debian testing.

 Me fui a la pagina de Adobe para instalar el
 Adobe Flash
  Player, y
 ante la falta de un paquete para Debian decidi
  instalarle el que
 habia para Ubuntu.

 No solo no se me ha instalado, sino que ahora
 no puedo
  actualizar
 Debian, ya que me dice que adobe-flashplugin
 esta mal
  instalado y
 debo arreglarlo manualmente, y no se como se
 hace eso.
  No puedo
 removerlo ni purgarlo con aptitude desde la
 linea de
  comandos, y no
 puedo abrir Synaptic.


Me respondo a mi mismo con nuevos datos.
   
   
dpkg -C
Los siguientes paquetes están en un estado de
 desorden
  debido a serios
problemas durante la instalación. Deben ser
 reinstalados
  para que
ellos (y los paquetes que dependen de ellos)
 funcionen
  correctamente:
 adobe-flashpluginAdobe Flash Player plugin
 version 10
   
   
   
dpkg -i flash.deb
Seleccionando el paquete adobe-flashplugin
 previamente no
seleccionado. (Leyendo la base de datos ...  00%
145375 ficheros y directorios instalados
 actualmente.)
Preparando para reemplazar adobe-flashplugin
 10.0.32.18-1
  (usando
flash.deb) ...
update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for
  iceape-flashplugin.
update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for
  iceape-flashplugin.
dpkg: warning: script de `pre-removal' antiguo
 returned
  error exit
status 2 dpkg - probando el script del nuevo
 paquete en su
  lugar...
update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for
  iceape-flashplugin.
update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for
  iceape-flashplugin.
dpkg: error al procesar flash.deb (--install):
 el subproceso script pre-removal nuevo devolvió
 el código
  de salida
de error 2
postinst called with argument `abort-upgrade'
dpkg: error al reorganizar:
 el subproceso installed post-installation
 script devolvió
  el código
de salida de error 1
Se encontraron errores al procesar:
 flash.deb
   
   
  
   adobe-flashplugin tampoco es un paquete de Debian,
 sino de
  Ubuntu. Si
   de verdad tienes instalada una Debian mejor usa
   flashplugin-nonfree y no mezcles distribuciones.
 Si lo que
  tienes es una
   Ubuntu entonces mira la opción --force-help de
 dpkg. Tal vez
  te ayude.
  
   Suerte. Un saludo.
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  Amigo, instalar el plugin de flash player es tan
 re-fácil...
  que no era
  necesario que pasaras por todos estos
 inconvenientes.
 
  Basta descargar el paquete .tar.gz del plugin (en
 vez de
  selccionar .deb
  selecionas .tar.gz) y descomprimirlo
 (libflashplayer.so) en el
  directorio /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins, si usas
 Firefox.
 
  IceWeasel me parece que tiene los plugins en otra
 parte, no
  estoy
  seguro, pero 

problemas gnome-session

2009-08-24 Thread Alberto Molina Molina

Estimados:

Aún tengo problemas para arrancar session en gnome me falla y sale 
un mensaje al comienzo que revise ~/.xsession-errors que dice lo 
siguiente:


/etc/gdm/Xsession: Beginning session setup...
/etc/gdm/Xsession: Executing gnome-session failed, will try to run 
x-terminal-emulator
/home/amolina/.themes/clearsky/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:151: Clearlooks 
configuration option sunkenmenu is not supported and will be ignored.
/home/amolina/.themes/clearsky/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:152: Clearlooks 
configuration option menuitemstyle is not supported and will be ignored.
/home/amolina/.themes/clearsky/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:153: Clearlooks 
configuration option listviewitemstyle is not supported and will be 
ignored.
/home/amolina/.themes/clearsky/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:154: Clearlooks 
configuration option progressbarstyle is not supported and will be 
ignored.


Se me abre un terminal después escribo gnome-session y ahí si arranca

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Ipod Firewire en Debian Lenny

2009-08-24 Thread Jose Carlos Farfan Gonzalez
Hola a todos

Uso debian lenny y mi PC actual tiene un puerto firewire, tambien tengo un Ipod 
firewire (puedo conectarlo por usb pero se descarga demaciado rapido), el 
problema es que no me ve el ipod y ya he probado con otras distros que si lo 
ven. 
¿Como puedo hacer para poder verlo?
gracias de antemano...
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Re: problemas gnome-session

2009-08-24 Thread Felix Perez
2009/8/24 Alberto Molina Molina dicker...@gmail.com:
 Estimados:

 Aún tengo problemas para arrancar session en gnome me falla y sale un
 mensaje al comienzo que revise ~/.xsession-errors que dice lo siguiente:

 /etc/gdm/Xsession: Beginning session setup...
 /etc/gdm/Xsession: Executing gnome-session failed, will try to run
 x-terminal-emulator
 /home/amolina/.themes/clearsky/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:151: Clearlooks configuration
 option sunkenmenu is not supported and will be ignored.
 /home/amolina/.themes/clearsky/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:152: Clearlooks configuration
 option menuitemstyle is not supported and will be ignored.
 /home/amolina/.themes/clearsky/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:153: Clearlooks configuration
 option listviewitemstyle is not supported and will be ignored.
 /home/amolina/.themes/clearsky/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:154: Clearlooks configuration
 option progressbarstyle is not supported and will be ignored.

 Se me abre un terminal después escribo gnome-session y ahí si arranca

 Y has probado cambiando el tema de gnome?

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Re: problemas gnome-session

2009-08-24 Thread Alberto Molina Molina

Felix Perez escribió:

2009/8/24 Alberto Molina Molina dicker...@gmail.com:
  

Estimados:

Aún tengo problemas para arrancar session en gnome me falla y sale un
mensaje al comienzo que revise ~/.xsession-errors que dice lo siguiente:

/etc/gdm/Xsession: Beginning session setup...
/etc/gdm/Xsession: Executing gnome-session failed, will try to run
x-terminal-emulator
/home/amolina/.themes/clearsky/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:151: Clearlooks configuration
option sunkenmenu is not supported and will be ignored.
/home/amolina/.themes/clearsky/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:152: Clearlooks configuration
option menuitemstyle is not supported and will be ignored.
/home/amolina/.themes/clearsky/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:153: Clearlooks configuration
option listviewitemstyle is not supported and will be ignored.
/home/amolina/.themes/clearsky/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:154: Clearlooks configuration
option progressbarstyle is not supported and will be ignored.

Se me abre un terminal después escribo gnome-session y ahí si arranca



 Y has probado cambiando el tema de gnome?

Suerte


  
Si ya probé cambiando el tema el problema continúa... estoy con debian 
sid podría ser algun bug... me tira algunos errores de dbus


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problema mute xmodmap kde

2009-08-24 Thread Alejandro Daniel Garcia Area
saludos amigos


tengo un problema me instale lenny en la maquina de mi casa, como entorno 
instale kde pero luego instale gnome para probar el problema del mute, tengo 
un teclado multimedia instalado y como todos sabemos para las teclas 
multimedia muchos usamos xmodmap ok dichas teclas las configure y todas 
funcionan, pero... en kde hay una única tecla que no funciona y esta es la 
del mute en cambio en gnome si funciona.

busque en unos foros y vi que la tecla del mute la asocian con este comando:

amixer set 'Master',0 toggle 21 /dev/null

probé el comando y pone en mute el audio (funciona!!).

pero el detalles es como lo asocio con la tecla mute ya que dicha tecla 
en .xmodmap acepta solo algo como XF86AudioMute

como haria para llamar el comando que hago referencia desde el xmodmap??? otra 
cosa cuando pulso la tecla de mute en kde muestra la pantalla de mute 
activado y desactivado pero no logra que el audio deje de sonar.

lo mas raro que el xmodmap en gnome funciona el mute y todas las teclas que 
configure.


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Re: problema mute xmodmap kde

2009-08-24 Thread Alejandro Daniel Garcia Area
On Monday 24 August 2009 11:23:35 am you wrote:
 On Monday 24 August 2009 11:11:18 am you wrote:
  saludos amigos
 
 
  tengo un problema me instale lenny en la maquina de mi casa, como entorno
  instale kde pero luego instale gnome para probar el problema del mute,
  tengo un teclado multimedia instalado y como todos sabemos para las
  teclas multimedia muchos usamos xmodmap ok dichas teclas las configure y
  todas funcionan, pero... en kde hay una única tecla que no funciona y
  esta es la del mute en cambio en gnome si funciona.
 
  busque en unos foros y vi que la tecla del mute la asocian con este
  comando:
 
  amixer set 'Master',0 toggle 21 /dev/null
 
  probé el comando y pone en mute el audio (funciona!!).
 
  pero el detalles es como lo asocio con la tecla mute ya que dicha tecla
  en .xmodmap acepta solo algo como XF86AudioMute
 
  como haria para llamar el comando que hago referencia desde el xmodmap???
  otra cosa cuando pulso la tecla de mute en kde muestra la pantalla de
  mute activado y desactivado pero no logra que el audio deje de sonar.
 
  lo mas raro que el xmodmap en gnome funciona el mute y todas las teclas
  que configure.

mi auto respondo xbindkeys pero igual no me funciona. con eso no logro
el mute.



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dudas sobre redes!!!

2009-08-24 Thread Willy ;)
Hola amigos tengo un problema y me imagino algo pero tengo temor a
equivocarme, les comparto mi problema...

Mi red esta diseñada de forma de 2 estrellas debido a que mi empresa
consta de dos edificios.
y se me acaba de romper la memoria ram del server que tenia montado el dhcp.

Aproveché y puse un switch nuevo que tenía.
Que clase de problema, tengo la red saturada, cuando tengo solo las pc
de mi local la red funciona y en cuanto conecto la que se supone que
sea la unión de las dos estrellas se cae todo y esto esta echo un
caos.

que se supone que tenga que hacer ir por cada switch reiniciandolos...

Gracias de antemano!!!

Willy ;)


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Re: Exedido en correos

2009-08-24 Thread Cristian Mitchell
El 21 de agosto de 2009 11:31, Yacellyac...@rc.gr.rimed.cu escribió:
 En Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:22:15 -0400, Manolo Díaz du...@pleione.es escribió:

 El Fri, 21 Aug 2009 09:59:19 -0400
 Yacell yac...@rc.gr.rimed.cu escribió:

 Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 16777216 bytes exhausted (tried
 to allocate 4864 bytes)
 in /usr/share/squirrelmail/functions/mime.php(674) : regexp code on
 line 1

 Por lo que dice ahí se trata de un límite de la memoria configurada
 para php y no de tu buzón. ¿Has intentado usar un cliente de correo que
 no dependa de la web (y por tanto de php en última instancia).

 Si te es posible comunícale la situación al administrador de correo.

 Saludos.

 El problema es que esos correos son copias  de todo el trafico de mensajeria
   y por eso lo tengo en mi mailserver y al no poseer una pc donde guardarlos
 tengo que dejarlo ahí por el momento.


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Mama mama!! me duele
entonces saca la mano del fuego.

estoy tratando de seguirte el hilo, y no entindeo nada de nada!

como cheques el webmail

si no tenes internet!
siendo asi que importa si tenes muchos o pocos mail!.

segundo no comentas que posibilidades de administracion del servidor
que tiene la cuenta.

que otros metodos de acceso tenes al mismo.

porbaste imap?

creaste subbandejas en el servidor de mail?

resumiendo: tenes muchos mails, que no podes acceder por que te tira
error, y no tenes internet, no podes borrar,
no podes bajarlos, no podes compactarlos, etc

resumen ESTAS JODIDO!




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Re: dudas sobre redes!!!

2009-08-24 Thread gvr
Pregunta, toda la red trabaja sobre el mismo segmento??

Osea tanto las Pc del edificio1 y el edificio2 tenian direcciones IP del
tipo:

192.168.1.xxx

Slds

GVr



El 24 de agosto de 2009 15:02, Willy ;) willim...@gmail.com escribió:

 Hola amigos tengo un problema y me imagino algo pero tengo temor a
 equivocarme, les comparto mi problema...

 Mi red esta diseñada de forma de 2 estrellas debido a que mi empresa
 consta de dos edificios.
 y se me acaba de romper la memoria ram del server que tenia montado el
 dhcp.

 Aproveché y puse un switch nuevo que tenía.
 Que clase de problema, tengo la red saturada, cuando tengo solo las pc
 de mi local la red funciona y en cuanto conecto la que se supone que
 sea la unión de las dos estrellas se cae todo y esto esta echo un
 caos.

 que se supone que tenga que hacer ir por cada switch reiniciandolos...

 Gracias de antemano!!!

Willy ;)


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Re: dudas sobre redes!!!

2009-08-24 Thread Ximo Nadal

Willy ;) escribió:

Hola amigos tengo un problema y me imagino algo pero tengo temor a
equivocarme, les comparto mi problema...

Mi red esta diseñada de forma de 2 estrellas debido a que mi empresa
consta de dos edificios.
y se me acaba de romper la memoria ram del server que tenia montado el dhcp.

Aproveché y puse un switch nuevo que tenía.
Que clase de problema, tengo la red saturada, cuando tengo solo las pc
de mi local la red funciona y en cuanto conecto la que se supone que
sea la unión de las dos estrellas se cae todo y esto esta echo un
caos.

que se supone que tenga que hacer ir por cada switch reiniciandolos...



Hola Willy,

No acabo de entender la estructura de la red.

No veo que tiene que ver el dhcp caido para poner un nuevo switch.

¿El enrutado entre las dos redes lo haces con un pc?, si es asi, depende 
de como este puesto el nuevo switch puedes estar creando un bucle.


Un consejo es que no cambies varias cosas a la vez. Por ejemplo: Si el 
problema original era el dhcp, reemplazalo. Y a partir de que funcione 
cambia o añade el switch nuevo.


Un cordial saludo.

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Montar un servidor proxy

2009-08-24 Thread lin lista
Hola muy buenas lista,

Me gustaría montar un servidor proxy en un servidor de pruebas que
tengo en mi casa y tengo una serie de dudas.
Mis dudas son mas de carácter físico, no se bien como organizarlo todo.
tengo 2 equipos 1 seria el servidor y un router (si aria falta tengo
también un swich) normal, el de telefónica vamos, No se si e de
conectar el servidor al router y los equipos clientes al servidor con
2 tarjetas de red..una para conectarla al router y la otra a los
equipos (aquí si hay mas de un equipo supongo que habría que usar el
swich).
o mi otra opción los 2 equipos conectados al router...y en la
configuracion de red del equipo cliente decirle que apunte al servidor
para autentificarse y eso...pero claro yo hay le veo un fallo... que
con solo cambiar la puerta de enlace del cliente y decirle que apunte
al router ya te estarías saltando todo el proxy...
Mi duda a grandes rasgos es esa, de sofware tenia pensado ponerle
squid y en la parte software creo que tendria menos problemas.
Bueno si necesitáis mas datos me los pedís.
Un saludo y gracias de antemano



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Re: Exedido en correos

2009-08-24 Thread Felix Perez
El 24 de agosto de 2009 16:36, Cristian
Mitchellmitchell6...@gmail.com escribió:
 El 21 de agosto de 2009 11:31, Yacellyac...@rc.gr.rimed.cu escribió:

Este hilo ya se dió por solucionado por el iniciador del hilo, asi que
llegó tarde estimado :-)


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Re: Montar un servidor proxy

2009-08-24 Thread Felix Perez
El 24 de agosto de 2009 23:05, lin listalistas...@gmail.com escribió:
 Hola muy buenas lista,

 Me gustaría montar un servidor proxy en un servidor de pruebas que
 tengo en mi casa y tengo una serie de dudas.
 Mis dudas son mas de carácter físico, no se bien como organizarlo todo.
 tengo 2 equipos 1 seria el servidor y un router (si aria falta tengo
 también un swich) normal, el de telefónica vamos, No se si e de
 conectar el servidor al router y los equipos clientes al servidor con
 2 tarjetas de red..una para conectarla al router y la otra a los
 equipos (aquí si hay mas de un equipo supongo que habría que usar el
 swich).
 o mi otra opción los 2 equipos conectados al router...y en la
 configuracion de red del equipo cliente decirle que apunte al servidor
 para autentificarse y eso...pero claro yo hay le veo un fallo... que
 con solo cambiar la puerta de enlace del cliente y decirle que apunte
 al router ya te estarías saltando todo el proxy...
 Mi duda a grandes rasgos es esa, de sofware tenia pensado ponerle
 squid y en la parte software creo que tendria menos problemas.
 Bueno si necesitáis mas datos me los pedís.
 Un saludo y gracias de antemano


Aqui tienes todo:
http://www.squid-cache.org/

Suerte

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Re: dudas sobre redes!!!

2009-08-24 Thread Felix Perez
El 24 de agosto de 2009 16:02, Willy ;)willim...@gmail.com escribió:
 Hola amigos tengo un problema y me imagino algo pero tengo temor a
 equivocarme, les comparto mi problema...

 Mi red esta diseñada de forma de 2 estrellas debido a que mi empresa
 consta de dos edificios.
 y se me acaba de romper la memoria ram del server que tenia montado el dhcp.

 Aproveché y puse un switch nuevo que tenía.
 Que clase de problema, tengo la red saturada, cuando tengo solo las pc
 de mi local la red funciona y en cuanto conecto la que se supone que
 sea la unión de las dos estrellas se cae todo y esto esta echo un
 caos.

 que se supone que tenga que hacer ir por cada switch reiniciandolos...

Que tipo de switch estas colocando?

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SV: ipv6 (fwd)

2009-08-24 Thread Martin Bagge / brother
Nedanstående kanske mer var ämnat till listan, jag har inte koll nog att 
peka på fallgropar eller liknande.


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Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 07:24:10 +0200
From: mattias m...@mjw.se
To: 'Martin Bagge / brother' mar...@bagge.nu
Subject: SV: ipv6

Instruktionerna på  http://www.ipv6tunnel.ssc.net
Visserligen på norska men det går att tolka

-Ursprungligt meddelande-
Från: Martin Bagge / brother [mailto:mar...@bagge.nu]
Skickat: den 23 augusti 2009 22:37
Till: mattias
Kopia: debian-user-swedish@lists.debian.org
Ämne: Re: ipv6


On Fri, 21 Aug 2009, mattias wrote:


Har gjort enligt instruktionerna men får det inte att funka


vilken instruktion? adress?


Har debian stöd för ipv6 över huvudtaget?


det är påslaget som standard. kolla med ifconfig att du fått den/de
ipv6-adress(er) du förväntar dig på ditt/dina nätverksgränssnitt.

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Ladda upp filer större än 5MB via websida/PHP?

2009-08-24 Thread timebandit

Hej på er.

Har laddat ner Shutter Image Gallery för att hålla koll på mina
album/bilder. Jag har ändrat i programmets egna kod till 10MB stora
filer som max.
Även så har jag ändrat i php5.ini i alla kataloger under /etc/php5/ men
detta hjälper inte.
Hittar inga felmeddelanden i några loggar eller dyligt.

Har ni några tips på vad som kan begränsa filstorleken vid uppladdning?


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Re: Ladda upp filer större än 5MB via websida/PHP?

2009-08-24 Thread timebandit
Jag löste mitt problem och problemet låg inte i Apache/PHP.

Felet låg i en .htaccess fil som jag inte lagt märke till och där i var
det specifierat till max 5MB.

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Re: ipv6

2009-08-24 Thread Anders Jackson
Den 21 augusti 2009 20.01 skrev mattias m...@mjw.se:

 Försöker få upp en ipv6 tunnel från ipv6tunnel.ssc.net


Ok, har inte provat dem.  Ser trevlig ut.


 Har gjort enligt instruktionerna men får det inte att funka


Instruktionerna är generella och inte specifika för debian.  Men du behöver
paketet 'iproute' för att få tillgång till kommandot 'ip'.


 Har debian stöd för ipv6 över huvudtaget?


Jadå, debian har IPv6-stöd från början.  Jag surfar med IPv6 just nu, med en
tunnel från tunnelbroker i en OpenWRT-router (http://openwrt.org/).  Har du
varit inne på #debian-se på irc.debian.org ? Där kan man ställa en del
frågor direkt.

I vart fall, du ger alldeles för lite information för att vi skall kunna
göra några avancerade gissningar för hur du vill göra.
Hur har du tänkt använda tunneln och IPv6? Bara för din maskin eller för
ditt lokala nätverk?
Har din maskin ett fast IP-nummer (eller i vart fall ganska stabilt)? Dvs
sitter den bakom en router/NAT/brandvägg, isf vilken?  Jag kör en OpenWPR
som IPv6 router nu.

http://wiki.debian.org/DebianIPv6  (Om hur man sätter upp en tunnel.
wiki.d.o är riktigt bra ställe att leta Debianrelaterad information på)

http://madduck.net/docs/ipv6/  (mycket bra information, synd att han
använder sixx och aiccu.  Men det finns info om brandvägg och radvd)

http://tunnelbroker.net/usage/tunnels_by_country.php
http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/category/ipv6/

/Jackson


Re: possible SYN flooding on port 3128. Sending cookies

2009-08-24 Thread Luciano Cassemiro
Tiago Matias escreveu:
 Será que pode ser isso ? virus na rede, pode ser sim, pq esse squid é
 um servidor squid para +/- 2 mil clientes diretamente
 Esse servidor squid atende outros 6 servidores que gerencia controle
 de banda, firewall, QoS etc, em cada servidor deste 6 tenho media de
 350 clientes.
 Como eu poderia aumentar essa quantidade de conexões que o kernel
 poderia receber ou suportar ? ou eu teria que colocar mais servidores
 squid na rede, assim diminuindo o trafego apenas em uma maquina.

 abraços

 2009/8/20 Fábio Rabelo fa...@fabiorabelo.wiki.br
 mailto:fa...@fabiorabelo.wiki.br

 flood = inundar

 Alguém ( alguma máquina da sua rede ) está inindando  o squid
 com um número muito grande de requisições .

 Eu chutaria que o Sr. tem uma ou mais máquinas contaminadas com
 vírus dentro da sua rede 

 Fábio Rabelo
  



Caro Tiago,

Esse erro é no log do squid ou no log do sistema?

Desses tunings q vc mencionou, acho que o mais válido é aumentar os file
descriptors para o squid.
Eu não deixaria o backlog tão alto assim. Visto que se chegou no
backlog, gargalo. Não faz diferença mais ou menos backlog, as
requisições chegando vão ter que esperar.
Nem o file descriptors global. Eu só iria alterar se eu notasse que
fosse necessário olhando a saída do cat /proc/sys/fs/file-nr

Seja virus ou não, pra resolver:

Veja se os syncookies estão ativados:
# sysctl -a | grep syncookies

Desligue os syncookies.

Veja o pq:

Syncookies are discouraged these days. - http://lwn.net/Articles/277217/
Desvantagens dos Syncookies - 
http://ckdake.com/content/2007/disadvantages-of-tcp-syn-cookies.html

Aah..não esqueça de fazer a devida alteração no sysctl.conf, como vc deve saber.

Bom, faça o teste e me fale se funcionou :)

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Re: [OFF-TOPIC] Projeto Sniffer de email

2009-08-24 Thread Ygor da Rocha Parreira

Ola,

Sem querer jogar um balde de agua fria no teu projeto, vou tentar passar o 
esquema de como eu faria isto hoje com ferramentas convencionais.

# tcpdump -s 1514 -i ethX host IP.DO.MAIL.SERVER and port 110 -w out.pcap

Todo software decente de análise de pacotes entende o formato pcap, logo, a 
análise disto a partir do arquivo gerado ficaria bem fácil.

Depois analisaria a saida com o chaosreader.

# ./chaosreader out.pcap

- http://chaosreader.sourceforge.net/

Ele gera as saídas em HTML (Tai uma dica pra teu analisador web).

De toda forma seria mais legal se vc fizesse um analisador de pacotes a partir 
de arquivos pcap (que qualquer sniffer hoje em dia gera arquivos pcap), dai vc 
grava as análises no banco, vc pode começar com e-mails e posteriormente 
extender isto pra outros protocolos. Já que você programa bem em C você vai ter 
facilidade de trabalhar com a libpcap.

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Ajuda com script

2009-08-24 Thread Leandro Moreira
Caros,
Estou montando a seguinte estrutura em um script:

for i in `$CAT $TMP_ARQ_IP`;
do

   HOSTNAME=`$NBT $i | $GRP -v Do | $GRP -F 10 | $AWK '{print$2}'`
#   $ECH $HOSTNAME
if [ $HOSTNAME ==   ] ; then

 for x in $(seq 254)
 do

 #$ECH host$x  $TMP_ARQ_HOST
 $ECH $x
 done
else

$ECH $HOSTNAME  $TMP_ARQ_HOST

 fi

done

O script pega o arquivo dhcpd.lease corta o ip e o mac, em seguida ele pega
o ip para verificar quando possivil o hostname da maquina, nesse ponto estou
tendo problemas pois quando ele retornar   vazio, preciso que ele crie um
hostname generico host[1-254] quando ele encontrar o hostname ele atribui a
um arquivo esse hostname.
Estou tendo dificuldade no ponto onde tenho q testar a variavel como vazio,
quando o a variavel retorno vazio ele da erro.
Alguem tem alguma dica ou documentaçao que possa me ajuda.

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Re: Empathy não conecta

2009-08-24 Thread hamacker
Cara,

Tô usando ele nesse instante com Jabber, MSN e GoogleTalk.
Dá uma verificada na versão que tú tá usando, estou usando Empathy
2.27.5 e com ele é tudo de bom.
Se estiver usando a mesma versão, provavelmente você tá esquecendo
alguma coisa na configuração de sua conta.
Na prática, o empathy foi mais fácil de configurar do que o Pidgin.

[]'s e sucesso.

2009/8/23 escravot...@gmail.com escravot...@gmail.com:

 bom dia! bem meu problema é que quero testar o empathy, mas ele não conecta
 e nem importa contas do pidgin, alguém teria a solução? [usando squeeze]

 Agradeço desde já!


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Re: Ajuda com script

2009-08-24 Thread Fabiano Pires
2009/8/24 Leandro Moreira lean...@leandromoreira.eti.br:
 Caros,
 Estou montando a seguinte estrutura em um script:

 for i in `$CAT $TMP_ARQ_IP`;
 do

    HOSTNAME=`$NBT $i | $GRP -v Do | $GRP -F 10 | $AWK '{print$2}'`
     #   $ECH $HOSTNAME
     if [ $HOSTNAME ==   ] ; then

  for x in $(seq 254)
  do

  #$ECH host$x  $TMP_ARQ_HOST
  $ECH $x
  done
     else

     $ECH $HOSTNAME  $TMP_ARQ_HOST

  fi

 done

 O script pega o arquivo dhcpd.lease corta o ip e o mac, em seguida ele pega
 o ip para verificar quando possivil o hostname da maquina, nesse ponto estou
 tendo problemas pois quando ele retornar   vazio, preciso que ele crie um
 hostname generico host[1-254] quando ele encontrar o hostname ele atribui a
 um arquivo esse hostname.
 Estou tendo dificuldade no ponto onde tenho q testar a variavel como vazio,
 quando o a variavel retorno vazio ele da erro.
 Alguem tem alguma dica ou documentaçao que possa me ajuda.

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Re: Empathy não conecta

2009-08-24 Thread Marcos Goulart
Alguém conhece algum tutorial para instalar o Empathy no Debian Lenny?


Em Seg, 2009-08-24 às 11:27 -0300, hamacker escreveu:

 Cara,
 
 Tô usando ele nesse instante com Jabber, MSN e GoogleTalk.
 Dá uma verificada na versão que tú tá usando, estou usando Empathy
 2.27.5 e com ele é tudo de bom.
 Se estiver usando a mesma versão, provavelmente você tá esquecendo
 alguma coisa na configuração de sua conta.
 Na prática, o empathy foi mais fácil de configurar do que o Pidgin.
 
 []'s e sucesso.
 
 2009/8/23 escravot...@gmail.com escravot...@gmail.com:
 
  bom dia! bem meu problema é que quero testar o empathy, mas ele não conecta
  e nem importa contas do pidgin, alguém teria a solução? [usando squeeze]
 
  Agradeço desde já!
 
 
  Use Software livre e seja feliz, longe de virus,tela azul,
  erros, etc...
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chave+APT+etch

2009-08-24 Thread Moksha Tux
Estou com o seguinte problema e gostaria de saber se alguém poderia me
ajudar... Quando eu executo o comando apt-get update em um servidor que
possuo ele me retorna que:

W: GPG error: http://security.debian.org etch/updates Release: As
assinaturas a seguir não puderam ser verificadas devido a chave pública não
estar disponível: NO_PUBKEY 9AA38DCD55BE302B

Sei que o problema é de chave do repositório como eu também sei que o ETCH
não é mas a versão stable e sim o LENNY, mas, eu gostaria de saber como eu
faço para corrigir isto. alguém poderia me ajudar? grato desde já,

Moksha


Re: Empathy não conecta

2009-08-24 Thread Alex Bruno
http://www.vivaolinux.com.br/dica/Empathy-O-substituto-do-Pidgin-no-Ubuntu

2009/8/24 Marcos Goulart mgoul...@riseup.net

  Alguém conhece algum tutorial para instalar o Empathy no Debian Lenny?


 Em Seg, 2009-08-24 às 11:27 -0300, hamacker escreveu:

 Cara,

 Tô usando ele nesse instante com Jabber, MSN e GoogleTalk.
 Dá uma verificada na versão que tú tá usando, estou usando Empathy
 2.27.5 e com ele é tudo de bom.
 Se estiver usando a mesma versão, provavelmente você tá esquecendo
 alguma coisa na configuração de sua conta.
 Na prática, o empathy foi mais fácil de configurar do que o Pidgin.

 []'s e sucesso.

 2009/8/23 escravot...@gmail.com escravot...@gmail.com:
 
  bom dia! bem meu problema é que quero testar o empathy, mas ele não conecta
  e nem importa contas do pidgin, alguém teria a solução? [usando squeeze]
 
  Agradeço desde já!
 
 
  Use Software livre e seja feliz, longe de virus,tela azul,
  erros, etc...
  http://www.vivaolinux.com.br/
 
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Tar - descompactar apenas um diretório do aruivo tar

2009-08-24 Thread Evaldo
Boa tarde, como eu poderia descompactar apenas um diretório de um arquivo tar?

por exemplo: tenho o diretórios:
/home/evaldo
/home/bin

dentro de um arquivo dados.tar, 

eu queria extrair apenas o /home/bin e seu conteúdo, como poderia ser  feito?
 

 
Obrigado!


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Re: Empathy não conecta

2009-08-24 Thread Marcos Goulart
Mas esse é para instalar o Empathy no Ubuntu e não no Debian Lenny.
Mesmo assim, obrigado

Em Seg, 2009-08-24 às 11:53 -0300, Alex Bruno escreveu:

 http://www.vivaolinux.com.br/dica/Empathy-O-substituto-do-Pidgin-no-Ubuntu
 
 
 2009/8/24 Marcos Goulart mgoul...@riseup.net
 
 Alguém conhece algum tutorial para instalar o Empathy no
 Debian Lenny?
 
 
 Em Seg, 2009-08-24 às 11:27 -0300, hamacker escreveu: 
 
  Cara,
  
  Tô usando ele nesse instante com Jabber, MSN e GoogleTalk.
  Dá uma verificada na versão que tú tá usando, estou usando Empathy
  2.27.5 e com ele é tudo de bom.
  Se estiver usando a mesma versão, provavelmente você tá esquecendo
  alguma coisa na configuração de sua conta.
  Na prática, o empathy foi mais fácil de configurar do que o Pidgin.
  
  []'s e sucesso.
  
  2009/8/23 escravot...@gmail.com escravot...@gmail.com:
  
   bom dia! bem meu problema é que quero testar o empathy, mas ele 
 não conecta
   e nem importa contas do pidgin, alguém teria a solução? [usando 
 squeeze]
  
   Agradeço desde já!
  
  
   Use Software livre e seja feliz, longe de virus,tela azul,
   erros, etc...
   http://www.vivaolinux.com.br/
  
   Enviado pelo Mozilla Thunderbird
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[off-topic] wmware esxi

2009-08-24 Thread Marcos Ferreira
Olá Pessoal,

Instalei o vmware esxi 4.0 num dell 1900. Baixei uma versão customizada para
dell.
No entanto, o cliente para gerenciar as máquinas virtuais é um executável.
Tentei instalar via wine e não consegui.
Gostaria de saber se há algum software para fazer esse gerenciamento no
debian?
Já dei uma pesquisa no google e não encontrei nada.


obrigado,

Marcos Ferreira


OFF Ajuda com o vmware

2009-08-24 Thread Márcio Pedroso
pessoal, uso o squeeze e recentemente o kernel foi atualizado para o 2.6.30.
tentei reajustar o vmware e nao obtive sucesso. a saida do erro:

Your kernel was built with gcc version 4.3.3, while you are trying to
use
/usr/bin/gcc version 4.3.4. This configuration is not recommended and
VMware Server may crash if you'll continue. Please try to use exactly same
compiler as one used for building your kernel. Do you want to go with
compiler
/usr/bin/gcc version 4.3.4 anyway? [no] yes

What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your
running
kernel? [/lib/modules/2.6.30-1-686/build/include]

Extracting the sources of the vmmon module.

Building the vmmon module.

Using 2.6.x kernel build system.
make: Entrando no diretório `/tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only'
make -C /lib/modules/2.6.30-1-686/build/include/.. SUBDIRS=$PWD
SRCROOT=$PWD/. modules
make[1]: Entrando no diretório `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.30-1-686'
  CC [M]  /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/linux/driver.o
In file included from /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/linux/driver.c:31:
/tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/./include/compat_wait.h:78: error:
conflicting types for ‘poll_initwait’
/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.30-1-common/include/linux/poll.h:67: error:
previous declaration of ‘poll_initwait’ was here
/tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/linux/driver.c: In function
‘LinuxDriverSyncCallOnEachCPU’:
/tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/linux/driver.c:1423: error: too many
arguments to function ‘smp_call_function’
/tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/linux/driver.c: In function
‘LinuxDriver_Ioctl’:
/tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/linux/driver.c:1987: error: ‘struct
task_struct’ has no member named ‘euid’
/tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/linux/driver.c:1987: error: ‘struct
task_struct’ has no member named ‘uid’
/tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/linux/driver.c:1988: error: ‘struct
task_struct’ has no member named ‘fsuid’
/tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/linux/driver.c:1988: error: ‘struct
task_struct’ has no member named ‘uid’
/tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/linux/driver.c:1989: error: ‘struct
task_struct’ has no member named ‘egid’
/tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/linux/driver.c:1989: error: ‘struct
task_struct’ has no member named ‘gid’
/tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/linux/driver.c:1990: error: ‘struct
task_struct’ has no member named ‘fsgid’
/tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/linux/driver.c:1990: error: ‘struct
task_struct’ has no member named ‘gid’
/tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/linux/driver.c:2007: error: too many
arguments to function ‘smp_call_function’
make[4]: ** [/tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/linux/driver.o] Erro 1
make[3]: ** [_module_/tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only] Erro 2
make[2]: ** [sub-make] Erro 2
make[1]: ** [all] Erro 2
make[1]: Saindo do diretório `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.30-1-686'
make: ** [vmmon.ko] Erro 2
make: Saindo do diretório `/tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only'
Unable to build the vmmon module.

For more information on how to troubleshoot module-related problems, please
visit our Web site at http://www.vmware.com/go/unsup-linux-products; and
http://www.vmware.com/go/unsup-linux-tools;.

Execution aborted.

fiz esse comando para ver se resolvia:

export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-4.3
ln -s -f /usr/bin/gcc-4.3 /usr/bin/gcc

mas nao obtive resposta.



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Fwd: SVN

2009-08-24 Thread Debiminho
Olá,

Estou a ter problemas com o svn, sempre funcionou e de repente dá este erro,

svn: OPTIONS of 'https://svn.debiminho.com/opencart': could not
connect to server (https://svn.debiminho.com)

Tenho acesso via browser.

Um pouco enervante... Eu li na net que podia ser resolvido se
actualiza-se alguns pacotes,
pelo que terminei por actualizar de testing para unstalble os seguintes;

libapache2-svn
libgssapi-krb5-2
libgssrpc4
libk5crypto3
libkadm5srv6
libkdb5-4
libkrb5-3
libkrb5-dev
libkrb5support0
libneon27
libsvn1
libsvn-dev
libsvn-perl
python-subversion
subversion
subversion-tools

Mas nada, o erro continua,

Obrigado
Silvino


Olá,

Resolvi, encontrei uma solução,

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=531338

hi,

i suffer of it too, but somehow found a workaround:

add the line http-library=serf to ~/.subversion/servers.

hope this will work for you too.

alex


Olá,

O svn voltou a falhar, desta vez não consigo dar com o gato,
não sou o único a ter o erro, mas não está simples encontrar
a solução.

Está descrito aqui,

http://www.svnforum.org/2017/viewtopic.php?p=12332

Estou a usar o squeeze...

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Re: [off-topic] wmware esxi

2009-08-24 Thread Rafael Moraes
infelizmente so tem pra windao


2009/8/24 Marcos Ferreira marca...@gmail.com

 Olá Pessoal,

 Instalei o vmware esxi 4.0 num dell 1900. Baixei uma versão customizada
 para dell.
 No entanto, o cliente para gerenciar as máquinas virtuais é um executável.
 Tentei instalar via wine e não consegui.
 Gostaria de saber se há algum software para fazer esse gerenciamento no
 debian?
 Já dei uma pesquisa no google e não encontrei nada.


 obrigado,

 Marcos Ferreira



Re: Tar - descompactar apenas um diretório do aruiv o tar

2009-08-24 Thread Catulo Hansen
Caro Evaldo,

Vocẽ faz o seguinte:

tar xvf arquivo.tar.gz home/bin

2009/8/24 Evaldo evaldoave...@yahoo.com.br:
 Boa tarde, como eu poderia descompactar apenas um diretório de um arquivo
 tar?

 por exemplo: tenho o diretórios:
 /home/evaldo
 /home/bin

 dentro de um arquivo dados.tar,

 eu queria extrair apenas o /home/bin e seu conteúdo, como poderia ser
 feito?


 Obrigado!

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Fwd: [off-topic] wmware esxi

2009-08-24 Thread Rafael Moraes
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From: Rafael Moraes raf...@bsd.com.br
Date: 2009/8/24
Subject: Re: [off-topic] wmware esxi
To: Tiago Matias tiagomat...@linuxap.com.br


Exato, ele é bare metal, ou seja, direto no hardware.

Porém o que o Marcos precisa é uma interface de gerenciamento. Grande parte
senao todas sao apenas para Windows, XenServer, VMWARE e o KVM...

2009/8/24 Tiago Matias tiagomat...@linuxap.com.br

na verdade pelo que vi aqui no site da vmware o vmware esxi ele já é o
 sistema operacional em si.

 2009/8/24 Rafael Moraes raf...@bsd.com.br

 infelizmente so tem pra windao



 2009/8/24 Marcos Ferreira marca...@gmail.com

 Olá Pessoal,

 Instalei o vmware esxi 4.0 num dell 1900. Baixei uma versão customizada
 para dell.
 No entanto, o cliente para gerenciar as máquinas virtuais é um
 executável. Tentei instalar via wine e não consegui.
 Gostaria de saber se há algum software para fazer esse gerenciamento no
 debian?
 Já dei uma pesquisa no google e não encontrei nada.


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Re: Empathy não conecta

2009-08-24 Thread Marcos Santos

É só usar o aptitude.


#aptitude install empathy telepathy-butterfly telepathy-haze 
telepathy-idle telepathy-inspector \
telepathy-salut telepathy-sofiasip telepathy-specification 
telepathy-stream-engine telepathy-gabble telepathy-connection-manager


Até,

Marcos João
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visite: www.watchtower.org




Marcos Goulart escreveu:

Mas esse é para instalar o Empathy no Ubuntu e não no Debian Lenny.
Mesmo assim, obrigado

Em Seg, 2009-08-24 às 11:53 -0300, Alex Bruno escreveu:

http://www.vivaolinux.com.br/dica/Empathy-O-substituto-do-Pidgin-no-Ubuntu

2009/8/24 Marcos Goulart mgoul...@riseup.net 
mailto:mgoul...@riseup.net 


Alguém conhece algum tutorial para instalar o Empathy no Debian
Lenny?


Em Seg, 2009-08-24 às 11:27 -0300, hamacker escreveu: 


Cara,

Tô usando ele nesse instante com Jabber, MSN e GoogleTalk.
Dá uma verificada na versão que tú tá usando, estou usando Empathy
2.27.5 e com ele é tudo de bom.
Se estiver usando a mesma versão, provavelmente você tá esquecendo
alguma coisa na configuração de sua conta.
Na prática, o empathy foi mais fácil de configurar do que o Pidgin.

[]'s e sucesso.

2009/8/23 escravot...@gmail.com mailto:escravot...@gmail.com 
escravot...@gmail.com mailto:escravot...@gmail.com:

 bom dia! bem meu problema é que quero testar o empathy, mas ele não 
conecta
 e nem importa contas do pidgin, alguém teria a solução? [usando squeeze]

 Agradeço desde já!


 Use Software livre e seja feliz, longe de virus,tela azul,
 erros, etc...
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Re: Tar - descompactar apenas um diretório d o aruivo tar

2009-08-24 Thread Evaldo
Obrigado!

 





From: Catulo Hansen catu...@gmail.com
To: Evaldo evaldoave...@yahoo.com.br
Cc: debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 1:13:48 PM
Subject: Re: Tar - descompactar apenas um diretório do aruivo tar

Caro Evaldo,

Vocẽ faz o seguinte:

tar xvf arquivo.tar.gz home/bin

2009/8/24 Evaldo evaldoave...@yahoo.com.br:
 Boa tarde, como eu poderia descompactar apenas um diretório de um arquivo
 tar?

 por exemplo: tenho o diretórios:
 /home/evaldo
 /home/bin

 dentro de um arquivo dados.tar,

 eu queria extrair apenas o /home/bin e seu conteúdo, como poderia ser
 feito?


 Obrigado!

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Re: Ajuda com script

2009-08-24 Thread Leandro Moreira
Caros,
Estou criando uma variavel contador da seguinte forma:

Blogo geral:

for i in `$CAT $TMP_ARQ_IP`;
do

   HOSTNAME=`$NBT $i | $GRP -v Do | $GRP -F 10 | $AWK '{print$2}'`

   #if [ $HOSTNAME -z ] ; then
   if [ $HOSTNAME != $HOSTNAME ] ; then

   #for x in $(seq 5)
   for x in {1..100}
   do

$ECH host_$x  $TMP_ARQ_HOST

   done

  else

  $ECH $HOSTNAME  $TMP_ARQ_HOST

  fi
done

Bloco do contador

 for x in $(seq 5)
   do

$ECH host_$x  $TMP_ARQ_HOST

   done

Eu preciso que ele a cada volta que ele nao econtrar um hostname, ele
cremente um valor na variavel host_$x  so que el esta criando q sequencia
dentro de um mesmo laço, ou seja, ele pega a variavel hostname vazia e cria
254 entradas.
Alguem pode me ajudar.

Att.

Leandro Moreira

2009/8/24 Fabiano Pires fabiano.pi...@gmail.com

 2009/8/24 Leandro Moreira lean...@leandromoreira.eti.br:
  Caros,
  Estou montando a seguinte estrutura em um script:
 
  for i in `$CAT $TMP_ARQ_IP`;
  do
 
 HOSTNAME=`$NBT $i | $GRP -v Do | $GRP -F 10 | $AWK '{print$2}'`
  #   $ECH $HOSTNAME
  if [ $HOSTNAME ==   ] ; then
 
   for x in $(seq 254)
   do
 
   #$ECH host$x  $TMP_ARQ_HOST
   $ECH $x
   done
  else
 
  $ECH $HOSTNAME  $TMP_ARQ_HOST
 
   fi
 
  done
 
  O script pega o arquivo dhcpd.lease corta o ip e o mac, em seguida ele
 pega
  o ip para verificar quando possivil o hostname da maquina, nesse ponto
 estou
  tendo problemas pois quando ele retornar   vazio, preciso que ele crie
 um
  hostname generico host[1-254] quando ele encontrar o hostname ele atribui
 a
  um arquivo esse hostname.
  Estou tendo dificuldade no ponto onde tenho q testar a variavel como
 vazio,
  quando o a variavel retorno vazio ele da erro.
  Alguem tem alguma dica ou documentaçao que possa me ajuda.
 
  Att.
 
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  Tel.: + 55(32) 9906-5713
 

 Ao invés de [$HOSTNAME ==   ]  tente [ $HOSTNAME -z ]

 Veja mais em man test

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Re: Ajuda com script

2009-08-24 Thread Leandro Moreira
Lesle,
Muito obrigado funcionou perfeitamente.

Att.

Leandro Moreira.

2009/8/24 Leslie H. Watter lesl...@celepar.pr.gov.br

 Olá Leandro,

 |Blogo geral:
 |
 |for i in `$CAT $TMP_ARQ_IP`;
 |do
 |
 |   HOSTNAME=`$NBT $i | $GRP -v Do | $GRP -F 10 | $AWK '{print$2}'`
 |
 |   #if [ $HOSTNAME -z ] ; then
 |   if [ $HOSTNAME != $HOSTNAME ] ; then
 |
 |   #for x in $(seq 5)
 |   for x in {1..100}
 |   do
 |
 |$ECH host_$x  $TMP_ARQ_HOST
 |
 |   done
 |
 |  else
 |
 |  $ECH $HOSTNAME  $TMP_ARQ_HOST
 |
 |  fi
 |done
 |
 |Bloco do contador
 |
 | for x in $(seq 5)
 |   do
 |
 |$ECH host_$x  $TMP_ARQ_HOST
 |
 |   done
 |
 |Eu preciso que ele a cada volta que ele nao econtrar um hostname, ele
 |cremente um valor na variavel host_$x  so que el esta criando q
 sequencia
 |dentro de um mesmo lac,o, ou seja, ele pega a variavel hostname vazia
 e
 |cria 254 entradas.
 |Alguem pode me ajudar.

 Para isso que vc quer fazer, não pode usar o for ali no if ($HOSTNAME !=
 $HOSTNAME ]).

 Declare o x fora do for principal (for i in `$CAT $TMP_ARQ_IP`;) assim:
 ---
 x=1;
 ---

 e, dentro do if ($HOSTNAME != ...) incremente ele assim

 ---
 x=$(($x + 1));
 ---

 Por exemplo:


 ~$ export x=1; for i in {1..10}; do x=$(($x + 1)); echo $x; done
 2
 3
 4
 5
 6
 7
 8
 9
 10
 11
 ~$


 Att.

 LEslie
 |
 |Att.
 |
 |Leandro Moreira
 |
 |2009/8/24 Fabiano Pires fabiano.pi...@gmail.com
 |
 |  2009/8/24 Leandro Moreira lean...@leandromoreira.eti.br:
 |   Caros,
 |   Estou montando a seguinte estrutura em um script:
 |  
 |   for i in `$CAT $TMP_ARQ_IP`;
 |   do
 |  
 |  HOSTNAME=`$NBT $i | $GRP -v Do | $GRP -F 10 | $AWK
 '{print$2}'`
 |   #   $ECH $HOSTNAME
 |   if [ $HOSTNAME ==   ] ; then
 |  
 |for x in $(seq 254)
 |do
 |  
 |#$ECH host$x  $TMP_ARQ_HOST
 |$ECH $x
 |done
 |   else
 |  
 |   $ECH $HOSTNAME  $TMP_ARQ_HOST
 |  
 |fi
 |  
 |   done
 |  
 |   O script pega o arquivo dhcpd.lease corta o ip e o mac, em seguida
 ele
 |  pega
 |   o ip para verificar quando possivil o hostname da maquina, nesse
 ponto
 |  estou
 |   tendo problemas pois quando ele retornar   vazio, preciso que
 ele
 |  crie um
 |   hostname generico host[1-254] quando ele encontrar o hostname ele
 |  atribui a
 |   um arquivo esse hostname.
 |   Estou tendo dificuldade no ponto onde tenho q testar a variavel
 como
 |  vazio,
 |   quando o a variavel retorno vazio ele da erro.
 |   Alguem tem alguma dica ou documentac,ao que possa me ajuda.
 |  
 |   Att.
 |  
 |   --
 |   Leandro Moreira
 |   Linux Administrator: LPIC-1
 |   e-mail/msn: lean...@leandromoreira.eti.br
 |   Tel.: + 55(32) 9906-5713
 |  
 |
 |  Ao inves de [$HOSTNAME ==   ]  tente [ $HOSTNAME -z ]
 |
 |  Veja mais em man test
 |
 |  --
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Re: Ajuda com script

2009-08-24 Thread Leslie H. Watter
Olá Leandro,

|Blogo geral:
| 
|for i in `$CAT $TMP_ARQ_IP`;
|do
| 
|   HOSTNAME=`$NBT $i | $GRP -v Do | $GRP -F 10 | $AWK '{print$2}'`
| 
|   #if [ $HOSTNAME -z ] ; then
|   if [ $HOSTNAME != $HOSTNAME ] ; then
| 
|   #for x in $(seq 5)
|   for x in {1..100}
|   do
| 
|$ECH host_$x  $TMP_ARQ_HOST
| 
|   done
| 
|  else
| 
|  $ECH $HOSTNAME  $TMP_ARQ_HOST
| 
|  fi
|done
| 
|Bloco do contador
| 
| for x in $(seq 5)
|   do
| 
|$ECH host_$x  $TMP_ARQ_HOST
| 
|   done
| 
|Eu preciso que ele a cada volta que ele nao econtrar um hostname, ele
|cremente um valor na variavel host_$x  so que el esta criando q sequencia
|dentro de um mesmo lac,o, ou seja, ele pega a variavel hostname vazia e
|cria 254 entradas.
|Alguem pode me ajudar.

Para isso que vc quer fazer, não pode usar o for ali no if ($HOSTNAME !=
$HOSTNAME ]).

Declare o x fora do for principal (for i in `$CAT $TMP_ARQ_IP`;) assim:
---
x=1;
---

e, dentro do if ($HOSTNAME != ...) incremente ele assim

---
x=$(($x + 1)); 
---

Por exemplo:


~$ export x=1; for i in {1..10}; do x=$(($x + 1)); echo $x; done
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
~$


Att.

LEslie
| 
|Att.
| 
|Leandro Moreira
| 
|2009/8/24 Fabiano Pires fabiano.pi...@gmail.com
| 
|  2009/8/24 Leandro Moreira lean...@leandromoreira.eti.br:
|   Caros,
|   Estou montando a seguinte estrutura em um script:
|  
|   for i in `$CAT $TMP_ARQ_IP`;
|   do
|  
|  HOSTNAME=`$NBT $i | $GRP -v Do | $GRP -F 10 | $AWK '{print$2}'`
|   #   $ECH $HOSTNAME
|   if [ $HOSTNAME ==   ] ; then
|  
|for x in $(seq 254)
|do
|  
|#$ECH host$x  $TMP_ARQ_HOST
|$ECH $x
|done
|   else
|  
|   $ECH $HOSTNAME  $TMP_ARQ_HOST
|  
|fi
|  
|   done
|  
|   O script pega o arquivo dhcpd.lease corta o ip e o mac, em seguida ele
|  pega
|   o ip para verificar quando possivil o hostname da maquina, nesse ponto
|  estou
|   tendo problemas pois quando ele retornar   vazio, preciso que ele
|  crie um
|   hostname generico host[1-254] quando ele encontrar o hostname ele
|  atribui a
|   um arquivo esse hostname.
|   Estou tendo dificuldade no ponto onde tenho q testar a variavel como
|  vazio,
|   quando o a variavel retorno vazio ele da erro.
|   Alguem tem alguma dica ou documentac,ao que possa me ajuda.
|  
|   Att.
|  
|   --
|   Leandro Moreira
|   Linux Administrator: LPIC-1
|   e-mail/msn: lean...@leandromoreira.eti.br
|   Tel.: + 55(32) 9906-5713
|  
| 
|  Ao inves de [$HOSTNAME ==   ]  tente [ $HOSTNAME -z ]
| 
|  Veja mais em man test
| 
|  --
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Re: [OFF-TOPIC] Projeto Sniffer de email

2009-08-24 Thread Edson Marquezani Filho
2009/8/24 Ygor da Rocha Parreira y...@securitylabs.com.br:

 Ola,

 Sem querer jogar um balde de agua fria no teu projeto, vou tentar passar o 
 esquema de como eu faria isto hoje com ferramentas convencionais.

 # tcpdump -s 1514 -i ethX host IP.DO.MAIL.SERVER and port 110 -w out.pcap

 Todo software decente de análise de pacotes entende o formato pcap, logo, a 
 análise disto a partir do arquivo gerado ficaria bem fácil.

 Depois analisaria a saida com o chaosreader.

 # ./chaosreader out.pcap

 - http://chaosreader.sourceforge.net/

Bom, essa é uma maneira manual de se fazer isso. Uma coisa é você ter
esse trabalho quando é necessário, outra é você ter algo que te provê
uma funcionalidade dessa vinte e quatro horas por dia, no caso em que
há algum interesse nisso.

Além disso, eu penso que salvar as mensagens em um banco de dados,
separar os campos mais pertinentes, fazer algum pré-processamento,
etc, é diferente de ter os dados simplesmente crus em arquivo. É
claro, você pode muito bem adicionar mais uma etapa nesse processo que
citou, fazendo um script que faça esse trabalho, mas daí já estamos
falando de um esforço quase correspondente ao meu, com o agravante de
necessitar de um processo manual de várias etapas sempre.

 Ele gera as saídas em HTML (Tai uma dica pra teu analisador web).

Meu problema não é remontar o fluxo TCP. Isso a bliblioteca Libnids
faz. A interface web terá disponível os dados prontos e organizados. O
nó é renderizar os emails, por assim dizer, porque afinal eles são
puro texto ASCII de 7 bits.

 De toda forma seria mais legal se vc fizesse um analisador de pacotes a 
 partir de arquivos pcap (que qualquer sniffer hoje em dia gera arquivos 
 pcap), dai vc grava as análises no banco, vc pode começar com e-mails e 
 posteriormente extender isto pra outros protocolos. Já que você programa bem 
 em C você vai ter facilidade de trabalhar com a libpcap.

Eu até gostaria de ter uma modularidade no programa, o que é sempre
ideal, o que não tenho hoje. Isso possibilitaria estender os
protocolos entendidos pelo programa, talvez sem muito re-trabalho ou
reescrita de código. Mas, considerando protocolo de email, só falta
IMAP, então o molho sairia mais caro que o peixe.

Além do mais, remontar o fluxo TCP de um dump bruto de pacotes não é
trivial, como pode parecer, nem muito entusiasmante. Prefiro continuar
usando a libnids. =)

É claro que algumas pessoas acharão a idéia do programa inútil, e
talvez realmente seja. Até há um tempo atrás, antes de surgir o
MSN-Proxy, via muita gente usando IMSniff para monitorar MSN dentro da
empresa. E o que ele faz também é tranquilamente substituível por esse
processo citado. Daí depende mais de uma questão de um sentimento
pessoal do que convém ou não usar para determinada tarefa. De qualquer
forma, acho que uma coisa não anula a outra.

Se, naturalmente surgir algum interesse nisso que justifque, gostaria
de levar adiante, mas não tenho nenhum compromisso.


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Re: [OFF-TOPIC] Projeto Sniffer de email

2009-08-24 Thread Ygor da Rocha Parreira

Opa,

Já que vc insiste (isto é bom, valorizo isso, nego cabeça dura... - sem 
ofenças, eu tbm sou cabeça dura, hehehe),

1 - Escuta telemática é crime.
2 - Pra renderizar o e-mail a partir do texto é simplão, os anexos estão em 
base64 encapsulado por um cabeçalho mime com nome do arquivo e tudo mais. Fica 
fácil assim, não?

Abraço.

Att.:
Ygor da Rocha Parreira.
Consultor de Segurança da Informação.
Security Labs | Intruders Tiger Team Division
http://www.intruders.com.br/
http://www.securitylabs.com.br/

- Mensagem original -
De: Edson Marquezani Filho edsonmarquez...@gmail.com
Para: Ygor da Rocha Parreira y...@securitylabs.com.br
Cc: Eduardo Rodrigues da Luz eduardo.r@gmail.com, Lista Debian 
debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org
Enviadas: Segunda-feira, 24 de Agosto de 2009 18:35:55 (GMT-0300) Auto-Detected
Assunto: Re: [OFF-TOPIC] Projeto Sniffer de email

2009/8/24 Ygor da Rocha Parreira y...@securitylabs.com.br:

 Ola,

 Sem querer jogar um balde de agua fria no teu projeto, vou tentar passar o 
 esquema de como eu faria isto hoje com ferramentas convencionais.

 # tcpdump -s 1514 -i ethX host IP.DO.MAIL.SERVER and port 110 -w out.pcap

 Todo software decente de análise de pacotes entende o formato pcap, logo, a 
 análise disto a partir do arquivo gerado ficaria bem fácil.

 Depois analisaria a saida com o chaosreader.

 # ./chaosreader out.pcap

 - http://chaosreader.sourceforge.net/

Bom, essa é uma maneira manual de se fazer isso. Uma coisa é você ter
esse trabalho quando é necessário, outra é você ter algo que te provê
uma funcionalidade dessa vinte e quatro horas por dia, no caso em que
há algum interesse nisso.

Além disso, eu penso que salvar as mensagens em um banco de dados,
separar os campos mais pertinentes, fazer algum pré-processamento,
etc, é diferente de ter os dados simplesmente crus em arquivo. É
claro, você pode muito bem adicionar mais uma etapa nesse processo que
citou, fazendo um script que faça esse trabalho, mas daí já estamos
falando de um esforço quase correspondente ao meu, com o agravante de
necessitar de um processo manual de várias etapas sempre.

 Ele gera as saídas em HTML (Tai uma dica pra teu analisador web).

Meu problema não é remontar o fluxo TCP. Isso a bliblioteca Libnids
faz. A interface web terá disponível os dados prontos e organizados. O
nó é renderizar os emails, por assim dizer, porque afinal eles são
puro texto ASCII de 7 bits.

 De toda forma seria mais legal se vc fizesse um analisador de pacotes a 
 partir de arquivos pcap (que qualquer sniffer hoje em dia gera arquivos 
 pcap), dai vc grava as análises no banco, vc pode começar com e-mails e 
 posteriormente extender isto pra outros protocolos. Já que você programa bem 
 em C você vai ter facilidade de trabalhar com a libpcap.

Eu até gostaria de ter uma modularidade no programa, o que é sempre
ideal, o que não tenho hoje. Isso possibilitaria estender os
protocolos entendidos pelo programa, talvez sem muito re-trabalho ou
reescrita de código. Mas, considerando protocolo de email, só falta
IMAP, então o molho sairia mais caro que o peixe.

Além do mais, remontar o fluxo TCP de um dump bruto de pacotes não é
trivial, como pode parecer, nem muito entusiasmante. Prefiro continuar
usando a libnids. =)

É claro que algumas pessoas acharão a idéia do programa inútil, e
talvez realmente seja. Até há um tempo atrás, antes de surgir o
MSN-Proxy, via muita gente usando IMSniff para monitorar MSN dentro da
empresa. E o que ele faz também é tranquilamente substituível por esse
processo citado. Daí depende mais de uma questão de um sentimento
pessoal do que convém ou não usar para determinada tarefa. De qualquer
forma, acho que uma coisa não anula a outra.

Se, naturalmente surgir algum interesse nisso que justifque, gostaria
de levar adiante, mas não tenho nenhum compromisso.


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RE: motherboad for desktop

2009-08-24 Thread David Christensen
Francesco Pietra wrote:
 new [desktop motherboard] for the same service (running 32bit graphic
 scientific programs, besides office use, and establishing scp
 connection with my amd64 computing machines).  Absolutely no need of
 multicore, rather, a single fast processor would be of use for
 scientific purposes as parallelized codes are rare stuff.

See this for some background:

http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2009/07/msg01216.html


I'm currently considering the Intel DG45ID motherboard.  It has everything I 
need, including Intel's best video chip (X4500ID):


http://www.intel.com/products/desktop/motherboards/DG45ID/DG45ID-overview.htm


The DG45ID does not support the older generation Pentium processors (4 and D), 
which should tell you something.  Furthermore, this benchmark shows that modern 
Core 2 Duo cores are faster than any Pentium, past or present (see 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moore's_law ):

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_list.php

Intel Pentium 4 3.80GHz   615/1 =  615/core

Intel Pentium D 3.40GHz   900/2 =  450/core

Intel Pentium E6300 @ 2.80GHz1811/2 =  905/core

Intel Core2 Duo E7400 @ 2.80GHz  1871/2 =  935/core

Intel Core2 Duo E8600 @ 3.33GHz  2417/2 = 1208/core

The modern Core 2 Quad cores run at lower frequencies (heat?):

Intel Core2 Quad Q8300 @ 2.50GHz 3553/4 =  888/core

Intel Core2 Quad Q9650 @ 3.00GHz 4426/4 = 1106/core

But, the smallest i7 core is faster than any Core 2:

Intel Core i7 920 @ 2.67GHz  5444/4 = 1361/core


If 3-D video is important, Intel's G45 doesn't compare against generation 9 and 
10 NVIDIA cards:

http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu_list.php

G45/G43 Express Chipset  191

GeForce 9500 GT  376

GeForce GTX 260 1719

(NVIDIA's drivers seem to work better now, but are still closed source.)


So, I'm also considering the Intel DX58SO motherboard plus an NVIDIA card:


http://www.intel.com/products/desktop/motherboards/DX58SO/DX58SO-overview.htm

The DX58SO has over-clocking capabilities, if you're into that (I typically run 
my machines at specified settings):


http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=262Itemid=69limit=1limitstart=9


As always, benchmarks must be taken with a grain of salt (gram? gallon?).  If 
you have a specification application in mind and can map it to specific 
assembler/ compiler/ processor/ GPU features, disregard all of the above.  
Also, recompiling/ redesigning your application for multiprocessing will allow 
for multi-core possibilities and beyond ( 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beowulf_cluster ).


Surfing for prices and min-maxing a modest 32-bit motherboard + CPU + RAM [+ 
video] setup:

~$300 for DG45ID/ Core 2 Duo/ 2 GB

~$450 for DG45ID/ Core 2 Quad/ 4 GB

 ~$700 for DX58SO/ Core i7/ 3 GB/ NVIDIA PCIe x16


Give Page's Law ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Page's_law ) and my personal 
usage patterns, I'd label the DG45ID/ Core 2 Duo as a 3+ year desktop and the 
DX58SO as a 5+ year desktop.


HTH,

David



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a pseudo-clone facility for migrating to new hardware?

2009-08-24 Thread Robert P. J. Day

  into the final stages of my debian upgrade adventure, and here's the
final phase.  at the moment, i have a couple more upgrade steps to get
the existing server (old dell P4 system) up to a fully-upgraded lenny
system, and make sure all the software still works properly (web
server, mail server, etc.).  and this is on a system where there is a
single root filesystem (/dev/sda1), so it's a very simple partitioning
layout.

  once that upgrade is done, i want to pick up the entire install, and
move it to a new dual-drive poweredge server, obviously keeping
everything in place.  but i want to format the new system with LVM and
multiple filesystems for robustness.  so what's the best way to do
that?

  the obvious solution is to take the running server offline, reboot
to a rescue CD, and copy the entire rootfs verbatim to a backup
device, connect that backup device to the new server, and restore with
a directory-oriented restoration which will honour the new LVM layout.
but that suggests that the new server already has a debian install on
it, so that restoration will obviously end up writing over top of an
existing install.  is that safe?

  i find it hard to believe that would work cleanly as the old log
files (dpkg, aptitude and so on) would overwrite the ones on the new
server, and i'm betting i'd end up with all sorts of inconsistencies.
the only way i can think of avoiding that kind of grief would be for
me to do the barest install on the new server, where the packages i
installed there would be an absolute subset of the ones on the old
server.  or, better yet, just arrange for empty filesystems to be
sitting there, waiting to be filled.

  is there, perhaps, a utility for this sort of thing?  after all,
this has to be a fairly common occurrence -- moving a working debian
system from an aging, old system to a newer one.  thoughts?

rday
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Re: top, www-data and other using LDAP?

2009-08-24 Thread Jordi Espasa Clofent

¿Anyone?

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gnuserv

2009-08-24 Thread Johann Spies
I use this script to implement gnuserv: 
===
#!/bin/sh
if [ -z $1 ]
then
   LEER=/tmp/gnuserv.`date +'%H%M%S'`
else
   LEER=$1
fi

pidof emacs  gnuclient -q $LEER || emacs -r -f gnuserv-start $LEER
===

Resulting int he following error.

command-line-1: Symbol's function definition is void: gnuserv-start

When I put (gnuserv-start) in .emacs I also get a complaint although
/usr/share/doc/gnuserv/README.Debian says:
===
Debian specific documentation for gnuserv:
-

In order to start the server automatically, place the following line
in your .emacs:
   
   (gnuserv-start)
===

What now?

Regards
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Re: a pseudo-clone facility for migrating to new hardware?

2009-08-24 Thread Joe

Robert P. J. Day wrote:

  into the final stages of my debian upgrade adventure, and here's the
final phase.  at the moment, i have a couple more upgrade steps to get
the existing server (old dell P4 system) up to a fully-upgraded lenny
system, and make sure all the software still works properly (web
server, mail server, etc.).  and this is on a system where there is a
single root filesystem (/dev/sda1), so it's a very simple partitioning
layout.

  once that upgrade is done, i want to pick up the entire install, and
move it to a new dual-drive poweredge server, obviously keeping
everything in place.  but i want to format the new system with LVM and
multiple filesystems for robustness.  so what's the best way to do
that?

  the obvious solution is to take the running server offline, reboot
to a rescue CD, and copy the entire rootfs verbatim to a backup
device, connect that backup device to the new server, and restore with
a directory-oriented restoration which will honour the new LVM layout.
but that suggests that the new server already has a debian install on
it, so that restoration will obviously end up writing over top of an
existing install.  is that safe?

  i find it hard to believe that would work cleanly as the old log
files (dpkg, aptitude and so on) would overwrite the ones on the new
server, and i'm betting i'd end up with all sorts of inconsistencies.
the only way i can think of avoiding that kind of grief would be for
me to do the barest install on the new server, where the packages i
installed there would be an absolute subset of the ones on the old
server.  or, better yet, just arrange for empty filesystems to be
sitting there, waiting to be filled.

  is there, perhaps, a utility for this sort of thing?  after all,
this has to be a fairly common occurrence -- moving a working debian
system from an aging, old system to a newer one.  thoughts?



Not that I know of. My advice would be to grit your teeth and install a 
completely new system, based on your existing packages. Then copy the 
data and as much configuration information as possible. Sorry.


Upgrading isn't a totally clean job: I upgraded from etch to lenny, and 
there were a few hiccups. If you use exim4, and you haven't upgraded it 
yet, the configuration model is a bit different, and if you tell it to 
use the existing configuration, it will die horribly. It won't accept 
any debconf directives, and once the daemon is installed, it can't be 
configured, and it won't allow either the installation to complete or 
for the broken bit to be removed. Not even with the more brutal options 
of dpkg. I had to resort to manually deleting files to clean that up. 
Just one example, though to be fair it was the worst. Apache/php is also 
very slightly different, and I still have a couple of minor quirks I 
haven't tracked down yet. Unavoidable whichever way you go.


As you're also changing hardware and moving to LVM, I'd think there are 
enough potential gotchas to do a clean install. That way, you also get 
to bring it up in parallel, and can fix some problems with reference to 
a running system. I was in almost exactly the same position, having 
upgraded old hardware to lenny prior to moving, and the experience of 
the upgrade led me to do a clean install and data migration, which 
wasn't difficult.


There is also the point that an upgraded system is not identical to a 
clean install. Some things will end up slightly different, particularly 
configurations, as some shortcuts will clearly be possible if there's no 
existing system to stay compatible with. My etch was already an upgrade 
from sarge, which may have complicated things. I'm sure it is possible 
to just keep upgrading, and that a number of people will jump in and 
tell me they have done this from potato or earlier, but I run a live 
mail server with no backup and I really don't want it to be down for 
more than a couple of hours. Parallel running was very attractive.

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Re: How could I change the limit of defined keyboard variants ?

2009-08-24 Thread Sever P A
Thanks, Mr. Celejar !

Obviously, switching among 300 keyboard variants by a keystroke is not
an operative method, but I thought that this limit, as some in linux,
could to be changed.

S.

2009/8/24 Celejar cele...@gmail.com:
 On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 19:40:44 +0200
 Sever P A gnu.se...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello guys,

 gnome-keyboard-properties allows to define up to 4 keyboard variants...

 My question is:

 Is it possible to change this limit ?

 I believe that this is a hard-coded limit of X itself, not Gnome:

 You can use multi-layouts xkb configuration. What does it mean?
 Basically it allows to load up to four different keyboard layouts at a
 time. Each such layout would reside in its own group. The groups
 (unlike complete keyboard remapping) can be switched very fast from one
 to another by a combination of keys.

 http://www.x.org/archive/X11R7.0/doc/html/XKB-Config2.html#2

 This is old, but AFAIK, still current.

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Re: Fetchmail and Gmail

2009-08-24 Thread Rob Gom
On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 9:30 PM, Ron Johnsonron.l.john...@cox.net wrote:
 On 2009-08-23 14:09, Rob Gom wrote:

 Hi all,
 could anyone explain to me why fetchmail is needed in the first place?

 Now *this* is an excellent flame!

Why do you consider my opinion as flamewar, whereas I only expect some
simple answers?


 From user's point of view it is something additional. Instead of
 configuring mail setup in single place (MUA, mail program), one has to
 set it up both in MUA (retrieve mail from local mail box) and
 fetchmail configuration file.

 It's not that difficult.  Really.

In my (ordinary user) opinion configuring mail program from its gui
and text file somewhere in the filesystem is more difficult than
editing only one place. And, believe me or not, there are people who
prefer graphical interfaces for some tasks, finding them more
convenient than command line.


                               The latter (IMHO) has very limited
 functionality of password encryption handling,

 Sure it doess, with POPS.

Maybe I haven't been understood well. My mail provider gives me a
password. In mail program I add it to some wallet or let mail program
to encrypt it after setting up. If I want to use fetchmail, I have to
write it there in plain text (correct me if I'm wrong), which is not
what I like doing.


                                                no gui integration

 Boo fscking hoo.

I beg your pardon?


                                                                   - it
 is needed to launch text editor to edit specific file...

 Again, boo fscking hoo.

 Does this setup have any advantages?

 Yes, it does, since it fetches your mail *for you* from your ISP's POP
 server, and can send it to an MTA, which passes it thru SpamAssassin and
 then an MDA, which then filters your email into separate folders depending
 on topic or sender.


So? Where's the advantage? My mail program fetches mail *for me* from
my ISP's POP server, passes it thru any filter (let it be
spamassassin), then writes it to separate folders depending on
basically anything. Fetchmail, MTA, MDA avoided, whereas the same
purpose achieved. Easier.

 Another benefit: for the longest time, ISPs had very small mailbox sizes,
 and some still do.  fetchmail/getmail running in daemon mode or through cron
 every X minutes will keep your ISP mailbox relatively empty, even if you go
 away on vacation.

Only if my computer (desktop) stays powered on all the time which is
not the case. And mailboxes are big enough.


                                     It is counterintuitive

 Remember, *ix is both a desktop and serve at the same time.  Thus, break out
 of your Windows Mentality.


It seems that you strongly believe in that. Please, don't
underestimate others technical knowledge. I am able to set up
fetchmail et al, but I don't find it necessary nor logical. Let the
engine be complicated as hell (fetchmail, MUA, MTA, MDA, spamassassin,
others), but also let user only touch the steering wheel and ignition
button.

                                                            and non
 ergonomic, isn't it?

 Ergonomics has nothing to with fetchmail.


But it has something to do with setting up your working environment.

 Unless automatically fetching mail so that you don't have to is considered
 ergonomic.


The above makes no sense to me, sorry.

 Are there any mail programs which allow seamless integration with
 fetchmail/getmail?

 All MTAs and MDAs, and Maildir, seamlessly integrate with fetchmail.


Are there any mail programs, which allow all mail server settings
(server, port, user, password, ..) to be passed to/handled by
fetchmail? Like a checkbox don't download it by yourself, let
fetchmail to do it for you.

Regards,
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Re: a pseudo-clone facility for migrating to new hardware?

2009-08-24 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Mon, 24 Aug 2009, Joe wrote:

[regarding moving debian install from old HW to new HW ...]

 My advice would be to grit your teeth and install a completely new
 system, based on your existing packages. Then copy the data and as
 much configuration information as possible. Sorry.

  that was one of my considerations.  i just didn't know if there was
an existing utility to automate a lot of that.  apparently not.

 Upgrading isn't a totally clean job: I upgraded from etch to lenny,
 and there were a few hiccups.

  that part of it will be happening later today.  as i've mentioned
before, i'm upgrading to lenny on the *old* server first, so the
migration will be as easy as possible.  actually, i'm upgrading in
several phases -- safe upgrade, wait for things to settle and tweak as
necessary, followed by a dist-upgrade ... repeat until done.

  what's been done so far on the old server, one step at a time,
debugging and tweaking all the while:

  * upgrade sarge
  * safe upgrade to etch
  * dist upgrade to etch
  * upgrade etch kernel to 2.6.18, discover it's broken
  * upgrade etch hernel to 2.6.24, still broken
  * upgrade etch kernel to 2.6.26, working again

and that's the state of the old server as we speak.  the last two
phases:

  * switch /etc/apt/sources.list to stable, safe upgrade, tweak
  * dist upgrade to lenny, tweak, beer

at which point i'm as up to date as i'm going to get on the old
server, and it will be time to migrate it over to the new HW.

 If you use exim4, and you haven't upgraded it yet, the configuration
 model is a bit different, and if you tell it to use the existing
 configuration, it will die horribly...

  no exim.  apparently, mercifully.  :-)

 Apache/php is also very slightly different, and I still have a
 couple of minor quirks I haven't tracked down yet. Unavoidable
 whichever way you go.

  i figured the apache upgrade would have some issues, so is there any
problem with just sticking with apache1 for the time being?  that's
what's running on the etch system now, should it still run nicely on
lenny until i know exactly what the upgrade process is to move to
apache2?

 As you're also changing hardware and moving to LVM, I'd think there
 are enough potential gotchas to do a clean install. That way, you
 also get to bring it up in parallel, and can fix some problems with
 reference to a running system. I was in almost exactly the same
 position, having upgraded old hardware to lenny prior to moving, and
 the experience of the upgrade led me to do a clean install and data
 migration, which wasn't difficult.

  hmm ... i'm thinking that i could cheat a bit and, since the new
hard drives are massively larger than the single existing one, i could
just set up another single root filesystem on the new first drive and
copy everything over, then switch to LVM sometime down the road by
manually formatting the (unused) second drive, copying over the entire
install, and switching drives.  that would have the advantage of being
able to *exactly* reproduce the running system, without having to load
it into a previous debian install.  or is that overkill?

  in any event, i have more than enough room to migrate onto a single
drive, and use the second drive to slowly and carefully duplicate that
install until i'm ready to switch to what i want long-term.

 There is also the point that an upgraded system is not identical to
 a clean install. Some things will end up slightly different,
 particularly configurations, as some shortcuts will clearly be
 possible if there's no existing system to stay compatible with. My
 etch was already an upgrade from sarge, which may have complicated
 things.

  deja vu. :-)  what i'm going to do later today is peruse the
installed packages and see if there are any that are obviously
redundant or obsolete, just so i can strip the running system down as
much as possible to simplify things and avoid interactions and side
effects.

 I'm sure it is possible to just keep upgrading, and that a number of
 people will jump in and tell me they have done this from potato or
 earlier, but I run a live mail server with no backup and I really
 don't want it to be down for more than a couple of hours. Parallel
 running was very attractive.

  i'll bet it was.  thanks for the advice.

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Re: How to play iso dvd without kde?

2009-08-24 Thread Liviu Andronic
On 8/24/09, Juan Lavieri jlavi...@cantv.net wrote:
  Please, do you have any idea of what to do?

gnome-mplayer (which is not necessarily gnome-dependent)
Liviu


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Re: Fetchmail and Gmail

2009-08-24 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Mon,24.Aug.09, 11:37:53, Rob Gom wrote:
 
 Maybe I haven't been understood well. My mail provider gives me a
 password. In mail program I add it to some wallet or let mail program
 to encrypt it after setting up. If I want to use fetchmail, I have to
 write it there in plain text (correct me if I'm wrong), which is not
 what I like doing.

Storing the password encrypted in some file has no benefit over storing 
the password in plain text, because anyone who gets the hash will be 
able to access your mail.

And if you don't use SSL for connecting to the mail server you can 
encrypt the password as much as you like on your system, because it will 
be transmitted in clear over the wire. A potential attacker doesn't even 
have to break in your system.

Even if you manage to avoid all these issues, root would still be able 
to get your password (basically you must assume you can't protect 
yourself from root).

Regards,
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Re: Re: -- SPAM -- webcam is not always detected

2009-08-24 Thread belahcene

Thanks,

The outputs I sent, while it is running.
The power of  webcam is direcly from usb cable.


Here is the part of dmesg :


[7.389760] input: ImPS/2 Generic Wheel Mouse as 
/devices/platform/i8042/serio1/input/input5


[7.476164] Linux video capture interface: v2.00
[7.509144] uvcvideo: Found UVC 1.00 device USB 2.0 Camera (0c45:62c0)
[7.519722] input: USB 2.0 Camera as 
/devices/pci:00/:00:1d.0/usb1/1-2/1-2:1.0/input/input6

[7.519820] usbcore: registered new interface driver uvcvideo
[7.519866] USB Video Class driver (v0.1.0)


So the material is detected ???.


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Re: Fetchmail and Gmail

2009-08-24 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Mon,24.Aug.09, 11:37:53, Rob Gom wrote:
 
 So? Where's the advantage? My mail program fetches mail *for me* from
 my ISP's POP server, passes it thru any filter (let it be
 spamassassin), then writes it to separate folders depending on
 basically anything. Fetchmail, MTA, MDA avoided, whereas the same
 purpose achieved. Easier.

Yes, in many cases it is, but the separate tools approach is more 
flexible and more powerful.

Initially moved my mail retrieval+sorting outside the GUI client because 
it couldn't download mail in a separate thread. Then I also moved the 
sending for similar reasons. The added benefit is that switching mail 
clients is much easier now:

SMTP server: localhost
IMAP server: localhost

and I'm done.

Regards,
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Re: a pseudo-clone facility for migrating to new hardware?

2009-08-24 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Mon, 24 Aug 2009, Joe wrote:

 My advice would be to grit your teeth and install a completely new
 system, based on your existing packages. Then copy the data and as
 much configuration information as possible. Sorry.

  it only just occurred to me that, yes, that's what i have to do
since it's currently a 32-bit system and i'm moving it to a 64-bit
server.  duh.  (yes, i know i could install a 32-bit OS but that would
be a waste of all that 64-bit processing power.)

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kde4 and show desktop button

2009-08-24 Thread Γιώργος Πάλλας

Hello all!

Is there any progress with that? I miss so much this simple feature, and 
as I see googling, I am not the only one...


For the time being I use the desktop shortcut WIN KEY + D, as in 
windows, but the whole point is to just use the mouse pressing a button 
on the panel...


G.


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Re: Fetchmail and Gmail

2009-08-24 Thread Micha

...






 From user's point of view it is something additional. Instead of
configuring mail setup in single place (MUA, mail program), one has to
set it up both in MUA (retrieve mail from local mail box) and
fetchmail configuration file.


It's not that difficult.  Really.


In my (ordinary user) opinion configuring mail program from its gui
and text file somewhere in the filesystem is more difficult than
editing only one place. And, believe me or not, there are people who


That is your opinion, others don't think that way. That is why there are 
different options. Plus, fetchmail is MUCH older than gui email programs.


Personally I use fetchmail + procmail to fetch and filter my mail

This way I can easily switch mail clients, also my mail client doesn't have to 
be running all the time using up memory and cpu.



prefer graphical interfaces for some tasks, finding them more
convenient than command line.




   The latter (IMHO) has very limited
functionality of password encryption handling,


Sure it doess, with POPS.


Maybe I haven't been understood well. My mail provider gives me a
password. In mail program I add it to some wallet or let mail program
to encrypt it after setting up. If I want to use fetchmail, I have to
write it there in plain text (correct me if I'm wrong), which is not
what I like doing.




no gui integration


Boo fscking hoo.


I beg your pardon?




   - it
is needed to launch text editor to edit specific file...


Again, boo fscking hoo.


Does this setup have any advantages?


Yes, it does, since it fetches your mail *for you* from your ISP's POP
server, and can send it to an MTA, which passes it thru SpamAssassin and
then an MDA, which then filters your email into separate folders depending
on topic or sender.



So? Where's the advantage? My mail program fetches mail *for me* from
my ISP's POP server, passes it thru any filter (let it be
spamassassin), then writes it to separate folders depending on
basically anything. Fetchmail, MTA, MDA avoided, whereas the same
purpose achieved. Easier.


Another benefit: for the longest time, ISPs had very small mailbox sizes,
and some still do.  fetchmail/getmail running in daemon mode or through cron
every X minutes will keep your ISP mailbox relatively empty, even if you go
away on vacation.


Only if my computer (desktop) stays powered on all the time which is
not the case. And mailboxes are big enough.




 It is counterintuitive


Remember, *ix is both a desktop and serve at the same time.  Thus, break out
of your Windows Mentality.



It seems that you strongly believe in that. Please, don't
underestimate others technical knowledge. I am able to set up
fetchmail et al, but I don't find it necessary nor logical. Let the
engine be complicated as hell (fetchmail, MUA, MTA, MDA, spamassassin,
others), but also let user only touch the steering wheel and ignition
button.


and non
ergonomic, isn't it?


Ergonomics has nothing to with fetchmail.



But it has something to do with setting up your working environment.


Unless automatically fetching mail so that you don't have to is considered
ergonomic.



The above makes no sense to me, sorry.


Are there any mail programs which allow seamless integration with
fetchmail/getmail?


All MTAs and MDAs, and Maildir, seamlessly integrate with fetchmail.



Are there any mail programs, which allow all mail server settings
(server, port, user, password, ..) to be passed to/handled by
fetchmail? Like a checkbox don't download it by yourself, let
fetchmail to do it for you.

Regards,
Robert





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Re: Fetchmail and Gmail

2009-08-24 Thread Rob Gom
On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 1:01 PM, Andrei Popescuandreimpope...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon,24.Aug.09, 11:37:53, Rob Gom wrote:

[cut]
Ok, so now I see the reasons to move:
1. Power  flexibility:
(if one needs something more than what mail application can offer)

 Yes, in many cases it is, but the separate tools approach is more
 flexible and more powerful.

[cut]

2. Mail program limitations:
 Initially moved my mail retrieval+sorting outside the GUI client because
 it couldn't download mail in a separate thread. Then I also moved the
(this is also my case - KMail famous bug)


As for:
Storing the password encrypted in some file has no benefit over storing
the password in plain text, because anyone who gets the hash will be
able to access your mail.

And if you don't use SSL for connecting to the mail server you can
encrypt the password as much as you like on your system, because it will
be transmitted in clear over the wire. A potential attacker doesn't even
have to break in your system.

To clarify: I don't send passwords in plain text over the net (mainly
SSL/TLS). And I believe that storing passwords encrypted is always
safer than storing them unencrypted.

Regards,
Robert


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Re: kde4 and show desktop button

2009-08-24 Thread Florian Kriener
On Monday 24 August 2009 13:13:53 Γιώργος Πάλλας wrote:
 Is there any progress with that? I miss so much this simple feature,
 and as I see googling, I am not the only one...

There is a Plasmoid for that purpose that you can put in your panel. 
Furthermore, if you only want to see your widgets, you can utilize your 
screen edges. System Settings  Display  Screen Edges - Show Dashboard 
might be, what you are looking for.

 For the time being I use the desktop shortcut WIN KEY + D, as in
 windows, but the whole point is to just use the mouse pressing a
 button on the panel...


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Re: [OT] Online downloadable books

2009-08-24 Thread Micha

On 8/24/2009 2:17 AM, ow...@netptc.net wrote:




 Original Message 
From: mi...@post.tau.ac.il
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: [OT] Online downloadable books
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 20:26:42 +0300


On 8/22/2009 8:12 PM, Rodolfo Medina wrote:

From:

   http://www.4shared.com

I downloaded a book I was looking for: Takeuti-Zaring's

Introduction to

Axiomatic Set Theory.

It comes in .djvu format.  I'd be curious to know how it was

formatted that

way: certainly not by scanning it page to page.

I think in future more and more books will be available on line,

and many

already are; but the problem is with old editions: either scanning

them page

after page, either re-write them from scratch.

Another book I was looking for: Quine's Set Theory and Its Logic,

was not

anywhere in internet.  Can anyone suggest a place where it's

downloadable?


Rodolfo




You are talking about illegal copies of the books, I don't think

that this is

the right list for that.

Some books are also available as ebooks, you can check amazon if

they sell the

books you want as ebooks. They are usually in pdf form quite often

with drm.


I've never ran into a book legal distributes as djvu


The format is described on djvu.org.  there's also a GPLed version of
the library.
L


The format is free, not problem with the format. Books distributed in djvu form 
generally aren't (at least I never ran into such). All books I've seen in this 
format are scanned copies, and if you check the cover of just about any book you 
will see a notice telling you that it is illegal to make full or partial copies 
without authorization.


The few free books I've seen were always pdf format.

BTW, if you want to find bootlegged books, google is your friend.



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Re: Iceweasel 3.5

2009-08-24 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 10:48:28AM -0400, S. Fishpaste wrote:
 On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 08:37:30 +1200, Chris Bannister in 
 gmane.linux.debian.user wrote:
  On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 05:44:47PM -0400, S. Fishpaste wrote:
 
 [snip]
 
  So how does one use the latest version of this web browser on Stable ?
 
  http://glandium.org/blog/?p=391
 
 Thanks for your hard work.

Eh? I didn't write that blog, and besides, hard work can shorten your
lifespan.

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Re: Blender GUI not working anymore on Debian sid.

2009-08-24 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 11:26:09AM +0900, Dietrich Bollmann wrote:
 Hi, 
 
 Recently, when trying to work with /usr/bin/blender-bin, the blender
 menus are not displayed anymore.  Any idea how this could be caused?

Its a wonder it works as well as it does:
http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-de...@lists.debian.org/msg275131.html

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Re: How could I change the limit of defined keyboard variants ?

2009-08-24 Thread Celejar
[please don't cc. me, as per the list's Coc, and please don't top post]

On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 11:02:37
+0200 Sever P A gnu.se...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks, Mr. Celejar !
 
 Obviously, switching among 300 keyboard variants by a keystroke is not
 an operative method, but I thought that this limit, as some in linux,
 could to be changed.

Note that you may be able to emulate the built-in layout / variant
switching by manually composing 'setxkbmap' commands and binding them
to key combos, either with xbindkeys or similar, or via Gnome's method
(whatever that may be).

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Re: How to play iso dvd without kde?

2009-08-24 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 09:24:19PM -0430, Juan Lavieri wrote:
 Hi everybody.

 I'm trying to play an iso dvd in my box.

 If I do with kaffeine or Dragon player it works fine but If I try to do  
 with totem it fails. The fact is that I want to do it on my laptop and I  
 don't want any kde library in that system.

 I search in google and many people says they do this job with totem, but  
 I've been trying and never works, neither on my laptop nor my desktop.   
 Maybe I need a totem plugin or so.

 Please, do you have any idea of what to do?

I'd use mplayer-nogui, and just run it under a basic X environment,
i.e.,

mplayer dvd://1-99

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Re: [OT] Online downloadable books

2009-08-24 Thread Micha

On 8/24/2009 6:48 AM, Celejar wrote:

On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 20:26:42 +0300
Michami...@post.tau.ac.il  wrote:

...


You are talking about illegal copies of the books, I don't think that this is
the right list for that.

Some books are also available as ebooks, you can check amazon if they sell the
books you want as ebooks. They are usually in pdf form quite often with drm.

I've never ran into a book legal distributes as djvu


And you an Israeli, too (or at least posting from an Israeli email
address and with an Israeli name) ;)  Jnul makes hundreds of books


Guilty as charged ... ;)


freely available online in djvu format:

http://www.jnul.huji.ac.il/heb/digibook.html



Didn't run into that one, looks interesting. First time I've seen 
non-copyrighted books in djvu form. Up to now I've only seen project Gutenberg 
and opensourced books and since the text file is available they are generally 
distributed as text of pdf although I've just checked and there are quite a few 
others these days, djvu is not one of them (I think that it's optimized for 
scanned texts)


In high school I found some nice books about magic circa 17th century, how to 
summon demons in such in the huji library in one of the collections. Wonder if 
they are up there also (although damned if I know where to find a proper sword 
for the spell)



Perhaps you meant that modern, copyrighted books are not generally
legally available in djvu format.



You read my mind

And if you look at the title the OP mentioned it doesn't seem to be out of 
copyright or opensource


http://www.amazon.com/Set-Theory-Its-Logic-Revised/dp/0674802071
http://www.amazon.com/Introduction-axiomatic-theory-Graduate-mathematics/dp/0387906835/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8s=booksqid=1251116935sr=1-2

only 25$ and 35$ but still ...

and both have a link to

Tell the Publisher!
I’d like to read this book on Kindle

Although can't say I like the way amazon handles kindle. Good idea, too 
restrictive.

This one looks nice though once the price drops enough and I think that it runs 
linux BTW

http://www.irextechnologies.com/products/iliad


Celejar



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Re: Fetchmail and Gmail

2009-08-24 Thread Micha

On 8/24/2009 3:05 PM, Rob Gom wrote:

On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 1:01 PM, Andrei Popescuandreimpope...@gmail.com  
wrote:

On Mon,24.Aug.09, 11:37:53, Rob Gom wrote:



[cut]
Ok, so now I see the reasons to move:
1. Power  flexibility:
(if one needs something more than what mail application can offer)


Yes, in many cases it is, but the separate tools approach is more
flexible and more powerful.


[cut]

2. Mail program limitations:

Initially moved my mail retrieval+sorting outside the GUI client because
it couldn't download mail in a separate thread. Then I also moved the

(this is also my case - KMail famous bug)


As for:
Storing the password encrypted in some file has no benefit over storing
the password in plain text, because anyone who gets the hash will be
able to access your mail.

And if you don't use SSL for connecting to the mail server you can
encrypt the password as much as you like on your system, because it will
be transmitted in clear over the wire. A potential attacker doesn't even
have to break in your system.

To clarify: I don't send passwords in plain text over the net (mainly
SSL/TLS). And I believe that storing passwords encrypted is always
safer than storing them unencrypted.


On the other hand I forgot my password several times (way too many password 
protected accounts each with it's own password restrictions) and it saved me 
that I could just open the file and see the password.


After I download the mail it's on my system anyway, and if you occasionally 
change the password then the problem is solved




Regards,
Robert





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Re: kde4 and show desktop button

2009-08-24 Thread Γιώργος Πάλλας

Florian Kriener wrote:

On Monday 24 August 2009 13:13:53 Γιώργος Πάλλας wrote:
  

Is there any progress with that? I miss so much this simple feature,
and as I see googling, I am not the only one...



There is a Plasmoid for that purpose that you can put in your panel. 
Furthermore, if you only want to see your widgets, you can utilize your 
screen edges. System Settings  Display  Screen Edges - Show Dashboard 
might be, what you are looking for.
  


Is anybody on debian using this plasmoid? I see that on a kubuntu 
machine of mine it exists and works, but I can't find how to install it 
on debian...





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Re: kde4 and show desktop button

2009-08-24 Thread Florian Kriener
On Monday 24 August 2009 15:37:05 Γιώργος Πάλλας wrote:
 Florian Kriener wrote:
  On Monday 24 August 2009 13:13:53 Γιώργος Πάλλας wrote:
  Is there any progress with that? I miss so much this simple
  feature, and as I see googling, I am not the only one...
 
  There is a Plasmoid for that purpose that you can put in your
  panel. Furthermore, if you only want to see your widgets, you can
  utilize your screen edges. System Settings  Display  Screen Edges
  - Show Dashboard might be, what you are looking for.

 Is anybody on debian using this plasmoid? I see that on a kubuntu
 machine of mine it exists and works, but I can't find how to install
 it on debian...

I just checked and it's here, having installed kde-full.

BTW: please don't cc me or I'll get all your mails twice.

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Re: kde4 and show desktop button

2009-08-24 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 15:47:04 +0200, Florian Kriener wrote:
 On Monday 24 August 2009 15:37:05 Γιώργος Πάλλας wrote:
  Florian Kriener wrote:
   On Monday 24 August 2009 13:13:53 Γιώργος Πάλλας wrote:
   Is there any progress with that? I miss so much this simple
   feature, and as I see googling, I am not the only one...
  
   There is a Plasmoid for that purpose that you can put in your
   panel. Furthermore, if you only want to see your widgets, you can
   utilize your screen edges. System Settings  Display  Screen Edges
   - Show Dashboard might be, what you are looking for.
 
  Is anybody on debian using this plasmoid? I see that on a kubuntu
  machine of mine it exists and works, but I can't find how to install
  it on debian...
 
 I just checked and it's here, having installed kde-full.

This plasmoid (/usr/lib/kde4/plasma_applet_showdesktop.so) is in the
package plasma-widgets-addons. It works fine for me as well, on Sid with
KDE 4.3. (I do not recall any problems with it under KDE 4.2 either, so
I would guess that it should also work in Squeeze.)

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Repeating Debian icon on gnome panel

2009-08-24 Thread Francesco Pietra
My old K7S5A/SIS735/Athlon/i386 debian lenny, now upgraded to squeeze
(no 3D graphics), has developed a tendency to repeat unasked commands
when in gnome, or console in gnome. No problems using the Debian
console without starting gnome.

This has installed a number of unmovable Debian icons in the gnome
panel, each icon functioning for main menu, while the gnome foot has
disappeared.

Neither dmesg nor lshw or lspci from the debian console, without
starting gnome, reveal - to my eyes - any hardware failure.

I use this old stuff for scp communication with computing clusters or UMA.

Upgrading to squeeze, gnome 26, did not help. Grateful for suggestions
how to remedy or decide to replace the desktop (actually i asked
yesterday for advice on mainboards and i received advice; now i am
trying to resuscitate the desktop to save time; otherwise i have a
couple of Raptors for a new sata mainboard)

thanks
francesco pietra


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Re: gpgv

2009-08-24 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Saturday 22 August 2009 10:00:02 Ron Johnson wrote:
 On 2009-08-22 00:46, Osamu Aoki wrote:
  Securit archive seems to lack Contents-i386.gz, Contents-ia64.gz, ...
 How does one file a bug about this?

Use reportbug.  I think the pseudo-package you want is project; I'd double-
check before filing.

But, one already exists, sort of.

There's a bug against apt-file to have it know that the security archive 
doesn't have Contents files.  From what I understand, the maintainers of the 
security repository are reluctant to generate the Contents files, for whatever 
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