Problème de son sous lenny

2009-10-01 Thread Olivier Basso

Bonjour,

J'ai plusieurs cartes sons sur mon système et
à chaque fois que je reboot mon système c'est toujours la carte son 
intégrée à ma carte mère qui se met par défaut or j'aimerais que ce soit 
plutôt celle choisie lorsque je configure avec alsaconf !

J'ai regardé du côté de la documentation alsa notamment cette page :
http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php/.asoundrc#A_brief_example. (voir 
section default PCM device)
Seulement lorsque je fais aplay -L comme il est dit de le faire je n'ai 
pas la carte son que j'aimerais faire fonctionner. Je dois d'abord faire 
alsaconf pour que aplay -L m'affiche la bonne carte !
Pareil quand je fais cat /proc/asound/modules après un reboot je n'ai 
que le module de ma carte son intégrée à ma carte mère qui s'affiche. Il 
faut que je lance alsaconf avant pour avoir ce que je souhaite.


J'ai essayé à la fois en créant le fichier /etc/asound et ~/.asoundrc 
mais ça ne marche pas


Donc j'aimerais ne plus avoir à lancer alsaconf au démarrage de ma 
machine pour avoir du son !


Merci d'avance


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Re: Problème de son sous lenny

2009-10-01 Thread fenark
Bonjour,


Solution de facilité,  mais efficace, désactiver la carte son intégré
dans le BIOS.





Le jeudi 01 octobre 2009 à 22:36 +0200, Olivier Basso a écrit :
 Bonjour,
 
 J'ai plusieurs cartes sons sur mon système et
 à chaque fois que je reboot mon système c'est toujours la carte son 
 intégrée à ma carte mère qui se met par défaut or j'aimerais que ce soit 
 plutôt celle choisie lorsque je configure avec alsaconf !
 J'ai regardé du côté de la documentation alsa notamment cette page :
 http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php/.asoundrc#A_brief_example. (voir 
 section default PCM device)
 Seulement lorsque je fais aplay -L comme il est dit de le faire je n'ai 
 pas la carte son que j'aimerais faire fonctionner. Je dois d'abord faire 
 alsaconf pour que aplay -L m'affiche la bonne carte !
 Pareil quand je fais cat /proc/asound/modules après un reboot je n'ai 
 que le module de ma carte son intégrée à ma carte mère qui s'affiche. Il 
 faut que je lance alsaconf avant pour avoir ce que je souhaite.
 
 J'ai essayé à la fois en créant le fichier /etc/asound et ~/.asoundrc 
 mais ça ne marche pas
 
 Donc j'aimerais ne plus avoir à lancer alsaconf au démarrage de ma 
 machine pour avoir du son !
 
 Merci d'avance
 
 

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Re: Problème de son sous lenny

2009-10-01 Thread waks
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Olivier Basso a écrit :
 Bonjour,
Bonsoir,

 J'ai plusieurs cartes sons sur mon système et
 à chaque fois que je reboot mon système c'est toujours la carte son
 intégrée à ma carte mère qui se met par défaut or j'aimerais que ce soit
 plutôt celle choisie lorsque je configure avec alsaconf !
 J'ai regardé du côté de la documentation alsa notamment cette page :
 http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php/.asoundrc#A_brief_example. (voir
 section default PCM device)
 Seulement lorsque je fais aplay -L comme il est dit de le faire je n'ai
 pas la carte son que j'aimerais faire fonctionner. Je dois d'abord faire
 alsaconf pour que aplay -L m'affiche la bonne carte !
 Pareil quand je fais cat /proc/asound/modules après un reboot je n'ai
 que le module de ma carte son intégrée à ma carte mère qui s'affiche. Il
 faut que je lance alsaconf avant pour avoir ce que je souhaite.
 
 J'ai essayé à la fois en créant le fichier /etc/asound et ~/.asoundrc
 mais ça ne marche pas

Ca peux fonctionner, mais il y a beaucoup plus simple, fénéantise oblige
je vais te proposer une autre solution.

 Donc j'aimerais ne plus avoir à lancer alsaconf au démarrage de ma
 machine pour avoir du son !
Il te suffit d'éditer le fichier /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
Ajoutes en fin de fichier options ton_module index=O pour celle que tu
veux mettre par défaut, ex :
options snd_hda_intel index=0
index=1 pour la suivante etc... mais c'est facultatif si ce qui
t'intéresse est juste d'avoir 1 carte précise utilisée par défaut.

Si tu ne connais pas les modules utilisés par ton matériel
#sudo lspci -v
tu trouveras ton bonheur à la ligne Kernel driver in use : .

 Merci d'avance
 

You're welcome.

WakS.

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Problem z zawieszaniem serwera

2009-10-01 Thread tower

Witajcie

Mam taki problem - od 4 dni systematycznie o 4.25AM zawiesza mi sie 
maszyna. W logach brak szczegółowego infa na temat problemu. Jedyny slad 
jaki serwer zrzuca to pare linijek w messages:


Sep 27 04:25:01 deb2 kernel: imklog 3.18.6, log source = /proc/kmsg started.
Sep 27 04:25:01 deb2 rsyslogd: [origin software=rsyslogd 
swVersion=3.18.6 x-pid=850 x-info=http://www.rsyslog.com;] restart

Sep 28 04:25:01 deb2 kernel: imklog 3.18.6, log source = /proc/kmsg started.
Sep 28 04:25:01 deb2 kernel: imklog 3.18.6, log source = /proc/kmsg started.
Sep 28 04:25:01 deb2 rsyslogd: [origin software=rsyslogd 
swVersion=3.18.6 x-pid=850 x-info=http://www.rsyslog.com;] restart

Sep 28 06:11:14 deb2 shutdown[6571]: shutting down for system reboot
Sep 28 06:11:22 deb2 kernel: [7909945.249017] nfsd: last server has exited
Sep 28 06:11:22 deb2 kernel: [7909945.249025] nfsd: unexporting all 
filesystems

Sep 28 08:11:32 deb2 kernel: imklog 3.18.6, log source = /proc/kmsg started.
Sep 28 08:11:32 deb2 kernel: [0.00] Initializing cgroup subsys 
cpuset

Sep 28 08:11:32 deb2 kernel: [0.00] Initializing cgroup subsys cpu
Sep 28 08:11:32 deb2 kernel: [0.00] Linux version 
2.6.26-2-xen-686 (Debian 2.6.26-15lenny2) (da...@debian.org) (gcc 
version 4.1.3
Sep 28 08:11:32 deb2 kernel: [0.00] Reserving virtual address 
space above 0xf580

Sep 28 08:11:32 deb2 kernel: [0.00] BIOS-provided physical RAM map:
Sep 28 08:11:32 deb2 kernel: [0.00]  Xen:  - 
4080 (usable)

Sep 28 08:11:32 deb2 kernel: [0.00] 304MB HIGHMEM available.
Sep 28 08:11:32 deb2 kernel: [0.00] 728MB LOWMEM available.


8:11 to restart serwera.


Serwer to jedna z wirtualek xenowych. Jest w necie troche infa przy 
połaczeniu 'imklog 3.18.6, log source = /proc/kmsg started. z 
zawieszaniem serwera, ale nie ma  konkretnych odpowiedzi. Jak juz to 
wspomina sie o problemach sprzetowych, natomiast to jest tylko 
wirtualka, która jako jedyna sposód 4 nawala. Na serwerze jest Apache, 
Mysql i PHP.



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Re: Problem z zawieszaniem serwera

2009-10-01 Thread Wojciech Ziniewicz
W dniu 1 października 2009 11:36 użytkownik tower tow...@gmail.com napisał:
 Witajcie

 Mam taki problem - od 4 dni systematycznie o 4.25AM zawiesza mi sie maszyna.
 W logach brak szczegółowego infa na temat problemu. Jedyny slad jaki serwer
 zrzuca to pare linijek w messages:

- podlacz sie xm console do tej wirtualki jesli dasz rade , i zobacz
co widać na ekranie (moze beda jakies oppsy, stack trejsy itd)
- jesli nie dasz rady sie podlaczyc to powiedz co siedzi w
/var/log/messages (bo tam powinny byc bardziej interesujace rzeczy)
- mozliwe ze polecenie screendump by pomoglo (wykonywane co 5 sekund
na przyklad i zrucajace do loga całą konsole)

czy na wirtualce xenowej masz zainstalowanego NFS-clienta czy serwer ?

pozdr.



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Re: Problem z zawieszaniem serwera

2009-10-01 Thread tower

Wojciech Ziniewicz wrote:

W dniu 1 października 2009 11:36 użytkownik tower tow...@gmail.com napisał:
  

Witajcie

Mam taki problem - od 4 dni systematycznie o 4.25AM zawiesza mi sie maszyna.
W logach brak szczegółowego infa na temat problemu. Jedyny slad jaki serwer
zrzuca to pare linijek w messages:



- podlacz sie xm console do tej wirtualki jesli dasz rade , i zobacz
co widać na ekranie (moze beda jakies oppsy, stack trejsy itd)
- jesli nie dasz rady sie podlaczyc to powiedz co siedzi w
/var/log/messages (bo tam powinny byc bardziej interesujace rzeczy)
- mozliwe ze polecenie screendump by pomoglo (wykonywane co 5 sekund
na przyklad i zrucajace do loga całą konsole)

czy na wirtualce xenowej masz zainstalowanego NFS-clienta czy serwer ?

pozdr.


  
xm console deb2 milczy. A co do /var/log/messages to wlaśnie powyższe 
logi stamtad pochodzą. Kernel.log nie krzyczy nic w newralgicznym 
momencie.  Na maszynie jest serwer NFS. W cronie nie mam wpisów z 4.25 a 
cron.daily startuje dopiero o 6.25.


W odniesieniu do tego artykułu: 
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=511562 zdecydowałem sie 
odinstalować rsysloga i zainstalowałem syslog-ng. Zobacze co bedzie 
nastepnego poranka.


Re: Problem z zawieszaniem serwera

2009-10-01 Thread Marcin Owsiany
On Thu, Oct 01, 2009 at 11:36:58AM +0200, tower wrote:
 Witajcie

 Mam taki problem - od 4 dni systematycznie o 4.25AM zawiesza mi sie  
 maszyna. W logach brak szczegółowego infa na temat problemu. Jedyny slad  
 jaki serwer zrzuca to pare linijek w messages:

Ja tutaj widzę trzy rzeczy:

1) 4:25 - restart rsysloga

 Sep 27 04:25:01 deb2 kernel: imklog 3.18.6, log source = /proc/kmsg started.
 Sep 27 04:25:01 deb2 rsyslogd: [origin software=rsyslogd  
 swVersion=3.18.6 x-pid=850 x-info=http://www.rsyslog.com;] restart
 Sep 28 04:25:01 deb2 kernel: imklog 3.18.6, log source = /proc/kmsg started.
 Sep 28 04:25:01 deb2 kernel: imklog 3.18.6, log source = /proc/kmsg started.
 Sep 28 04:25:01 deb2 rsyslogd: [origin software=rsyslogd  
 swVersion=3.18.6 x-pid=850 x-info=http://www.rsyslog.com;] restart

2) 6:11 - shutdown -r

 Sep 28 06:11:14 deb2 shutdown[6571]: shutting down for system reboot
 Sep 28 06:11:22 deb2 kernel: [7909945.249017] nfsd: last server has exited
 Sep 28 06:11:22 deb2 kernel: [7909945.249025] nfsd: unexporting all  
 filesystems

3) 8:11 - boot

 Sep 28 08:11:32 deb2 kernel: imklog 3.18.6, log source = /proc/kmsg started.
 Sep 28 08:11:32 deb2 kernel: [0.00] Initializing cgroup subsys  

 8:11 to restart serwera.

Widać że tak nie do końca zwisa po czwartej, skoro jeszcze o 6:11 daje
znak życia. Może spróbuj wyczaić co o tej 4:25 restartuje sysloga?

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Re: Ajustando las Xorg ( ahora Evita HTML)

2009-10-01 Thread fernandojoseGmail
Angel Claudio Alvarez wrote:
 El mié, 30-09-2009 a las 08:36 +0200, fernandojoseGmail escribió:
 Saludos y Muchas gracias
 Sylvia


 Por favor EVITA el html
 gracias

 Lo mismo digo, si no se va a aportar nada:  evitar los EVITA...
 (O por lo menos quitar el cuerpo del mensaje)

 desde tu punto de vista no aporta nada

No me gusta entrar en este tipo de discusiones porque no conducen a nada
y van en contra de mi forma de ver las cosas, pero como ahora no tengo
mucho trabajo te haré un par de comentarios.

Tu mensaje: En primer lugar no cambiaste el Asunto, con lo cual como
estaba interesado en el tema en vez de borrarlo directamente ha
provocado que yo y otros tantos como yo hayamos perdido el tiempo
bajando hasta el final del mismo para leer un por favor EVITA el html
(Si hubieras hecho top posting por lo menos no sería tan molesto :-) )

Te queda claro por qué desde mi punto de vista no aporta nada, ya he
visto que estaba en html y conozco la norma.

Ya que te gustan tanto las normas aplícate la de recortar la parte del
mensaje que no es necesaria, porque hay gente que todavía utiliza
conexiones por modem de baja velocidad y pierde mucho tiempo descargando
los mensajes de la lista.
También la de poner un asunto descriptivo, que ayuda mucho a filtrar los
correos que a uno no le interesan.

 
 Te recuerdo que hay personas que pueden estar interesadas en el asunto y
 utilizan un lector en linea de comandos, y leer html es bastante molesto

No hace falta que me lo recuerdes, creo que en mi comentario queda claro
que lo se...


 Las normas primero dicen que no hay que evitar el html, y simplemente le
 solicite que POR FAVOR evitara el html


Lo sé, recorté el mensaje para que quedara claro lo que decías, pero de
todas formas si lees mi mensaje no va dirigido contra ti, sino contra la
 proliferación de mensajes como el tuyo que solo meten ruido en la lista.

 Que nadie se lo tome a mal, respondo a este mensaje porque ya empiezo a
 estar cansado de tanto: No hagas top posting, debajo de un mensaje
 de mas de 50 lineas...
 Lo lamento por  vos

¿Qué lamentas, que empiece a cansarme?
pues tampoco sería tan extraño después de 10 años aguantando... :-)

 
 Me parece bien cuidar las formas, pero que el remedio no sea peor que la
 enfermedad.

 Hasta ahora no lo fue, y nunca lo es si se pide de forma correcta

Como tu dices, desde tu punto de vista, pero este mensaje no es
caprichoso, es consecuencia de esa desproporcionada tendencia al
puritanismo que nos invade. :-)

Quien esté libre de pecado que tire la primera piedra


Decirte tan solo que no es nada personal, que tu mensaje no es mas que
uno de tantos y posiblemente de los mas correctos en las formas, pero me
pilló con tiempo libre y decidí hacer una pequeña reflexión sobre el tema.

Un saludo.


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Re: Activar tarjeta inalámbrica.

2009-10-01 Thread Felix Perez
El día 1 de octubre de 2009 01:44, Giordano Bruno
clepsidrane...@hotmail.es escribió:
 On Thursday 01 October 2009 04:57:42 Felix Perez wrote:
 El día 30 de septiembre de 2009 17:41, haldrik hald...@gmail.com escribió:
  El día 30 de septiembre de 2009 15:55, Giordano Bruno
 
 Sí, lo he probado con un PDA y con un ACER (tiene el mismo driver pero utiliza
 4XXX), los dos sin problemas, conectan perfectamente con el router
 inalámbrico.


Haz en consola como root:
lsmod | grep 3945

y pega lo que te salga en pantalla, con esto veremos si los módulos
estan cargados o no.

Luego veremos lo del modconf.

Suerte

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Re: Activar tarjeta inalámbrica. (Solucionado)

2009-10-01 Thread Giordano Bruno
On Thursday 01 October 2009 18:28:36 Felix Perez wrote:
 El día 1 de octubre de 2009 01:44, Giordano Bruno

 clepsidrane...@hotmail.es escribió:
  On Thursday 01 October 2009 04:57:42 Felix Perez wrote:
  El día 30 de septiembre de 2009 17:41, haldrik hald...@gmail.com 
escribió:
   El día 30 de septiembre de 2009 15:55, Giordano Bruno
 
  Sí, lo he probado con un PDA y con un ACER (tiene el mismo driver pero
  utiliza 4XXX), los dos sin problemas, conectan perfectamente con el
  router inalámbrico.

 Haz en consola como root:
 lsmod | grep 3945

 y pega lo que te salga en pantalla, con esto veremos si los módulos
 estan cargados o no.

 Luego veremos lo del modconf.

El problema estaba en que no activaba la tarjeta. He tenido que cambiar el 
disco por el que tenía windows y activarla desde allí, ahora sí funciona. Por 
lo que he leído por ahí, desde linux no se puede activar la tarjeta, y si 
instalas linux  con la tarjeta apagada por windows no se puede acceder a 
ella, aunque la detecte y esté todo correcto.
Gracias a todos.

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Re: Activar tarjeta inalámbrica. (Solucionado)

2009-10-01 Thread Moises Brenes
2009/10/1 Giordano Bruno clepsidrane...@hotmail.es:
 On Thursday 01 October 2009 18:28:36 Felix Perez wrote:
 El día 1 de octubre de 2009 01:44, Giordano Bruno

 clepsidrane...@hotmail.es escribió:
  On Thursday 01 October 2009 04:57:42 Felix Perez wrote:
  El día 30 de septiembre de 2009 17:41, haldrik hald...@gmail.com
 escribió:
   El día 30 de septiembre de 2009 15:55, Giordano Bruno
 
  Sí, lo he probado con un PDA y con un ACER (tiene el mismo driver pero
  utiliza 4XXX), los dos sin problemas, conectan perfectamente con el
  router inalámbrico.

 Haz en consola como root:
 lsmod | grep 3945

 y pega lo que te salga en pantalla, con esto veremos si los módulos
 estan cargados o no.

 Luego veremos lo del modconf.

 El problema estaba en que no activaba la tarjeta. He tenido que cambiar el
 disco por el que tenía windows y activarla desde allí, ahora sí funciona. Por
 lo que he leído por ahí, desde linux no se puede activar la tarjeta, y si
 instalas linux  con la tarjeta apagada por windows no se puede acceder a
 ella, aunque la detecte y esté todo correcto.
 Gracias a todos.

He visto que hacen esto (yo no lo he tenido que hacer):
echo 1  /proc/driver/wireless/radio

Lo dejo, si sirve de algo, para otra :)


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Re: Activar tarjeta inalámbrica. (Solucionado)

2009-10-01 Thread haldrik
El día 1 de octubre de 2009 16:44, Moises Brenes
moises.bre...@gmail.com escribió:
 2009/10/1 Giordano Bruno clepsidrane...@hotmail.es:
 On Thursday 01 October 2009 18:28:36 Felix Perez wrote:
 El día 1 de octubre de 2009 01:44, Giordano Bruno

 clepsidrane...@hotmail.es escribió:
  On Thursday 01 October 2009 04:57:42 Felix Perez wrote:
  El día 30 de septiembre de 2009 17:41, haldrik hald...@gmail.com
 escribió:
   El día 30 de septiembre de 2009 15:55, Giordano Bruno
 
  Sí, lo he probado con un PDA y con un ACER (tiene el mismo driver pero
  utiliza 4XXX), los dos sin problemas, conectan perfectamente con el
  router inalámbrico.

 Haz en consola como root:
 lsmod | grep 3945

 y pega lo que te salga en pantalla, con esto veremos si los módulos
 estan cargados o no.

 Luego veremos lo del modconf.

 El problema estaba en que no activaba la tarjeta. He tenido que cambiar el
 disco por el que tenía windows y activarla desde allí, ahora sí funciona. Por
 lo que he leído por ahí, desde linux no se puede activar la tarjeta, y si
 instalas linux  con la tarjeta apagada por windows no se puede acceder a
 ella, aunque la detecte y esté todo correcto.
 Gracias a todos.

 He visto que hacen esto (yo no lo he tenido que hacer):
 echo 1  /proc/driver/wireless/radio

 Lo dejo, si sirve de algo, para otra :)


Yo tube que hacer ifconfig wlan0 up manualmente.

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Re: viaje a Fresno

2009-10-01 Thread haldrik
El día 30 de septiembre de 2009 17:06, carolina botero
carobot...@gmail.com escribió:
 vale, y crees qeu se puede incluir nuestro taller para el lunes?
 carolina

 2009/9/30 haldrik hald...@gmail.com

 El día 30 de septiembre de 2009 14:08, carolina botero
 carobot...@gmail.com escribió:
  grama que se tenga preparado en Fresno nos gustaria ofrecer un taller de
  redes sociales el lunes a las 10am por cuenta de Karisma y a cargo de
  Maritza Sanchez. Quedamos atentos a que nos indiquen si esto es posible
  y
  donde se haria

 Hola caro, porfa mira mi blog haldrik.blogspot.com hago un post con mas
 detalle
 que los anteriores.

 Respecto de los planes estamos esperando la opinión de ConVerGentes para
 ultimar
 el itinerario. El alojamiento no es problema por lo menos para 3 personas.


Claro que si. Es mas tengo muchas ganas de ese taller.
el asunto es que no habría mucha gente y vos sabes que
yo personalmente odio invitar gente que no le interesa la
materia, dime si esto sería una limitante.

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cuotas en dovecot

2009-10-01 Thread Yoandy Melero

Amigos listeros tengo implementado el postfix con dovecot y squirrelmail y es 
para
mi un problema que a mis usuarios se le llene el buzon de x cantidad de MB.

Y ya me tienen el servidor lleno de tantos correos. Necesito implementar las 
cuotas
con dovecot, ya tengo el pluguin para squirrelmail.

Lo unico que me falta es eso.


Este mensaje es OT???

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Re: viaje a Fresno

2009-10-01 Thread Felix Perez
El día 1 de octubre de 2009 22:06, haldrik hald...@gmail.com escribió:
 El día 30 de septiembre de 2009 17:06, carolina botero
 carobot...@gmail.com escribió:

 Claro que si. Es mas tengo muchas ganas de ese taller.
 el asunto es que no habría mucha gente y vos sabes que
 yo personalmente odio invitar gente que no le interesa la
 materia, dime si esto sería una limitante.


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Re: viaje a Fresno

2009-10-01 Thread Luis Lezcano Airaldi
Yo me fijaría dos veces antes de mandar un correo. Con este ya van
817543628 correos que se le escapan a la lista a haldrik.

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Re: [OT]oracle en debian ¿como instalar?

2009-10-01 Thread Felix Perez
El día 16 de septiembre de 2009 02:10, Diego Palomo
diegopal...@gmail.com escribió:


 El 16 de septiembre de 2009 08:05, Felix Perez felix.listadeb...@gmail.com
 escribió:



 Buenas, yo realice la instalación con los repos de Oracle y ningún problema,
 todo muy fácil.
 Sin duda te recomendaría ese tipo de instalación.

Gracias, por tu respuesta, había olvidado este tema y ahora probando
lo revise nuevamente.
el .deb me dio errores de dependencias que no pude solucionar y
efectivamente la instalación via repos es muy fácil y la configuración
tambien.

Nuevamente mil gracias.

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RE: Προδιαγραφές μαθητικών Netb ooks

2009-10-01 Thread Dimitris Kottas
Επίσης είναι και το ζήτημα της κερδοσκοπίας με τα νετμπουκ.
από tvxs http://www.tvxs.gr/v21967

Φαινόμενα κερδοσκοπίας παρουσιάστηκαν στην αγορά με αφορμή τα μαθητικά
λάπτοπ. Οι εταιρίες, που πριν το καλοκαίρι τιμολογούσαν ένα netbook από 240
έως 350 ευρώ, σήμερα, έχουν ανατιμήσει τους φορητούς υπολογιστές έως και 55%
πάνω από την αρχική τους αξία.




Στις 01 Οκτωβρίου 2009 5:30 μ.μ., ο χρήστης N. Pattakos pattak...@yahoo.com
 έγραψε:

Καλησπέρα σας,

 Φαντάζομαι ότι όλοι έχετε ακούσει για την επιδότηση μαθητών για την αγορά
 netbook. Ακουσα σήμερα ότι ανάμεσα στις προδιαγραφές για την επιδότηση είναι
 να έχουν windows. Έχοντας το πρόσφατο, επιτυχημένο, παράδειγμα ενός 15χρονου
 ξαδέρφου μου στον οποίο άλλαξα τα win στο laptop του με ubuntu, ξέρω ότι το
 να έχει ένα μηχάνημα GNU software μπορεί να εξυπηρετεί στο
 browsing/msn/facebook/openoffice.

 Δε νομίζετε ότι θα έπρεπε να διαμαρτυρηθούμε για αυτή την προδιαγραφή;
 Ξέρω ότι η λίστα είναι για το debian, αλλά δεν ξέρω ούτε που αλλού θα
 μπορούσα να ρωτήσω σχετικά ούτε τι θα μπορούσα να κάνω σχετικά. Είμαι
 ανοιχτός και πρόθυμος σε οποιαδήποτε πρόταση.

 Επίσης ξέρω ότι είμαστε στην Ελλάδα, αλλά και πάλι θα ήθελα να κάνω κάτι.

 Ευχαριστώ για το χρόνο σας και με συγχωρείτε για το spamming.


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RE: Προδιαγραφές μαθ ητικών Netbooks

2009-10-01 Thread Geo Kuu

Δεν ξέρω αν ακούγεται απίθανο αλλά εγω είδα το GNOME σε μερικά netbooks να 
τρέχει και διάβασα το καρτελάκι όλων των διαθέσιμων μαθητικών netbooks και όλα 
ήταν dual (Windows/Linux)

Από τη στιγμή που είναι dualboot το δικαίωμα της επιλογής νομίζω έχει καλυφθεί. 
Το θέμα είναι ότι χρεώνοντας για ένα πράγμα που 1) Είναι ελεύθερο και δωρεάν 2) 
Δεν παρέχουν υποστήριξη αυτοί που το πουλάνε, και νόμιμοι να είναι παραμένει 
κοροϊδία απέναντι στον καταναλωτή. εκτός αν το USB stick που είναι μαζί με το 
netbook ανέβασε την τιμή από τα 299 ευρό (όπως αυτό που είδα, το HP Compaq 
Mini) στα 450.

Λινκς σε 2 μεγάλα καταστήματα:
http://www.e-shop.gr/show_per.phtml?id=PER.900832
http://www.plaisio.gr/Laptop-Netbook-GPS/Notebook/Student-Netbooks/Mini-110c-1160ev-Pink-Student.htm

Μάλλον αυτό το Student Edition ανεβάζει το κόστος κατα 150 ευρό :P


Filika,
Koutsikos Giorgos


 Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 18:29:48 +0300
 From: pattak...@yahoo.com
 To: oeg...@hotmail.com
 Subject: Re: [Bulk] RE: Προδιαγραφές μαθητικών Netbooks

 Geo Kuu wrote:
 Τα netbooks είναι dualboot, τουλάχιστον χθες σε μια αλυσίδα καταστημάτων με 
 είδη πληροφορικής είδα
 τα μισά netbooks του stand με Ubuntu και τα υπόλοιπα με Windows και το 
 καρτελάκι έγραφε Λειτουργικό: Windows / Linux
 Αλλού όμως είναι το πρόβλημα. Υπήρχαν netbooks που κόστιζαν γύρω στα 290 
 ευρό και ξαφνικά πήγαν 450 (όμοια υπήρχαν netbooks
 που έκαναν 400 και πήγαν 450 - ίσα ίσα για να καλύψουν τα χρήματα που 
 πέρνουν από το κουπόνι) και η δικαιολογία των καταστημάτων
 είναι το επιπλέον λογισμικό εκτός των Windows και το flash stick που 
 αναφέρεται ότι πρέπει να δίνεται μαζί με τη συσκευή. Αίσχος αν
 χρεώνουν το ελεύθερο λογισμικό...

 Αυτό μου ακούγεται απίθανο να συμβαίνει. Αν είναι να πληρώσουν license γιατί 
 να
 βάλουν linux? Άσε που δεν έχουν κ πολύ χώρο.

 Οπως και να έχει, το θέμα για μένα είναι
 1) αν καταπατείται το δικαίωμα της επιλογής. Το να χρεώνουν για το ελεύθερο
 λογισμικό είναι δικαίωμα των καταστημάτων. Οι Ελληνες μαθητές και γονείς έχουν
 αντίστοιχα το δικαίωμα/δυνατότητα να αγοράσουν ένα μηχάνημα με GNU software;
 2) Αν όχι τι μπορώ(-ούμε) να κάνουμε.

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Re: Προδιαγραφές μαθητ ικών Netbooks

2009-10-01 Thread nikos roussos
On Thu, 1 Oct 2009 18:51:30 +0300
Geo Kuu oeg...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Δεν ξέρω αν ακούγεται απίθανο αλλά εγω είδα το GNOME σε μερικά netbooks να
 τρέχει και διάβασα το καρτελάκι όλων των διαθέσιμων μαθητικών netbooks και
 όλα ήταν dual (Windows/Linux)

καθόλου απίθανο. το επιτάσσουν οι προδιαγραφές:
http://ub0.cc/7J/5B

υπάρχει θέμα υπερ-κοστολόγησης των netbooks, αν και δεν υποχρεούνται να
παρέχουν καμία υποστήριξη για linux, όπως δεν παρέχουν και για τα windows


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Re: Προδιαγραφές μαθητικών Netbooks

2009-10-01 Thread V13
On Thursday 01 October 2009, Geo Kuu wrote:
  συσκευή. Αίσχος αν χρεώνουν το ελεύθερο λογισμικό...

Ayto poy grafeis parapano einai oligon-ti epipolaio. Profanos kai exoyn 
dikaioma na xreonoyn thn egkatastash kai parametropoihsh toy eleytheroy 
logismikoy. To pleonektima einai to oti exeis th dynatothta na exeis dorean to 
synolo toy kodika kai na ton kaneis oti theleis.

Genika, mporeis na katebaseis to debian net-inst, na to baleis se ena CD kai 
na xreoneis 100.000 euro to ena. Den tha einai oyte paranomo, oyte kata toy 
license, oyte aisxos

... kapoy mperdepses to noima toy eleytheroy logismikoy.

V13


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Re: Προδιαγραφές μαθητικ ών Netbooks

2009-10-01 Thread Alexandros Kosiaris

Geo Kuu wrote:
 Το θέμα είναι ότι χρεώνοντας για ένα πράγμα που
1) Είναι ελεύθερο και δωρεάν

Ελεύθερο είπαμε είναι το λογισμικό. Προφανώς και έχουν
το δικαίωμα να το πουλάνε. Ειδαλιώς δεν θα το λέγαμε
ελεύθερο αλλά τσάμπα. Το παραπάνω είναι κύριο χαρακτηριστικό
του ελεύθερου λογισμικού.

2) Δεν παρέχουν υποστήριξη αυτοί που το πουλάνε, και
νόμιμοι να είναι παραμένει κοροϊδία απέναντι στον καταναλωτή.

Δεν είναι υποχρεωμένοι να παρέχουν υποστήριξη οι ίδιοι για το 
λογισμικό(και πάλι καλά να λες γιατί κοροιδία θα ήταν να παρείχαν αυτοί 
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Re: Προδιαγραφές μα θητικών Netbooks

2009-10-01 Thread N. Pattakos
Genika, mporeis na katebaseis to debian net-inst, na to baleis se ena CD kai 
na xreoneis 100.000 euro to ena. Den tha einai oyte paranomo, oyte kata toy 
license, oyte aisxos


Kai an kapoios to kanei auto de 8a ton 8eorousa tpt allo ektos apo magka pou 
brhke tropo (i 8uma) na to kanei...



καθόλου απίθανο. το επιτάσσουν οι προδιαγραφές:
http://ub0.cc/7J/5B


me sugxoreite tote, la8os mou. H periorismenh fantasia mou me tin mikroskopiki 
logikh mou den mporoun na ftasoun thn paranoia tis ellhnikhs pragmatikotitas 
sunduasmenh me tis monopoliakes taktikes tis mikromalakhs!



Eksakolou8o na pisteuo oti 8a eprepe na diamarturi8o(-ume) gia tin uparksh 
windows sta mhxanhmata ton paidion.


Tespa, kalhnuxta sas.


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Re: Bug#549105: [xserver-xorg-input-synaptics] Tap don't work on DELL Latitude E6400

2009-10-01 Thread Ronaldo Reis Júnior
Thanks,

it works.

Att.
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Em Qua 30 Set 2009, Mattia Dongili escreveu:
 On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 04:22:27PM -0300, Prof. Ronaldo Reis Junior wrote:
  Package: xserver-xorg-input-synaptics
  Version: 1.1.2-1
  Severity: normal
 
  --- Please enter the report below this line. ---
 
  Hi,
 
  I have a latitude dell e6400. My touchpad work in several function, but
  the tap dont work. I try severals solution found on web but neither work.
 
 Could you please see if the suggestions given in
 /usr/share/doc/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/NEWS.Debian.gz help?
 
 Otherwise please attach the output of `synclient -l`, `lshal` and the
 contents of /var/log/Xorg.0.log.
 
 Thanks
 
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Re: Dhcp marrado por mac registrando no Bind

2009-10-01 Thread Eduardo Rodrigues da Luz
Olhe esse script do Leonardo Moreira, se eles te ajudam.
http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org/msg127414.html

2009/10/1  gilmarli...@agrovale.com.br:
 Dhcp marrado por mac registrando no Bind

 Ola a todos!
 Penso que alguem ira saber me informar, atualmente tenho um rede com dhcp, e
 todos os desktops buscao o ip do servidor dhcp porem marrado com mac, assim
 a estacao sempre busca sempre o ip que foi defenido para ela. Ate aki tudo
 bem.
 Entao fui iniciar a configuracao de um servidor Bind para resolver tanto
 enderecos externos como os nomes das estacoes. Na questao de resolver nomes
 externos funcionou 100%, e resolver os nomes internos, eu adicionei no
 arquivo de zonas os nomes e ips dos meus servidores e funcionou 100%.
 Para eu nao ter que adicionar cada ip e nome no arquivos de zona no bind, vi
 que e possivel fazer o dhcp registrar o ip e nomes no bind, entao foi isto
 que fui testar.
 Primeiro teste que fiz foi fazer o dhcp registrar os ips defenido no range
 de rede, sem marrar por mac, no bind, e o mesmo funcionou 100%. Entao fui
 pegar meu dhcp que possui todas estacos com o nome e mac (marrado por mac),
 e coloquei no dhcp para que o bind peque estas informacoes automaticamente e
 registra no bind, so que o mesmo nao acontece. Por algum motivo que ainda
 nao descobri o bind nao aceita registro de um dhcp onde a configuracoes dos
 host estao marrados por mac automaticamente no bind.
 Alguem sabe se e isto mesmo? para o bind aceitar o registro automatico de ip
 e nome nao posso ter um dhcp marrando o endereco por mac?
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Informações de diretórios

2009-10-01 Thread Marcelo Buess
Senhores,
Como ainda não sou tão experiente em linux gostaria de saber dos mais
experientes se existe alguma forma de pegar informações de utilização de
diretórios, ou seja, saber quanto cada diretório, e seus subdiretórios, está
ocupando de espaço em disco.

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Re: Informações de diretórios

2009-10-01 Thread Rafael Moraes
df -h - para visualizar as partições ( uso/tamanho e etc )
du -h - visualizar uso em diretórios


da uma lida no man destes dois, tem muitas opções.

2009/10/1 Marcelo Buess mcbu...@gmail.com

 Senhores,
 Como ainda não sou tão experiente em linux gostaria de saber dos mais
 experientes se existe alguma forma de pegar informações de utilização de
 diretórios, ou seja, saber quanto cada diretório, e seus subdiretórios, está
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Re: Informações de diretórios

2009-10-01 Thread Hudson Lacerda

info du

Marcelo Buess wrote:

Senhores,
Como ainda não sou tão experiente em linux gostaria de saber dos mais
experientes se existe alguma forma de pegar informações de utilização de
diretórios, ou seja, saber quanto cada diretório, e seus subdiretórios, está
ocupando de espaço em disco.




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Re: Informações de diretórios

2009-10-01 Thread Fred Maranhão
2009/10/1 Marcelo Buess mcbu...@gmail.com:
 Senhores,
 Como ainda não sou tão experiente em linux gostaria de saber dos mais
 experientes se existe alguma forma de pegar informações de utilização de
 diretórios, ou seja, saber quanto cada diretório, e seus subdiretórios, está
 ocupando de espaço em disco.

Tem um programinha chamado filelight. Ele dá de forma gráfica as
informações que você quer. Este é em qt. tem um equivalente em gtk.
não lembro agora o nome.


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Re: Informações de diretórios

2009-10-01 Thread Eduardo Rodrigues da Luz
Creio que o nome é baobab, creio que já vem na instalação padrão do
debian e ubuntu.

2009/10/1 Fred Maranhão fred.maran...@gmail.com:
 2009/10/1 Marcelo Buess mcbu...@gmail.com:
 Senhores,
 Como ainda não sou tão experiente em linux gostaria de saber dos mais
 experientes se existe alguma forma de pegar informações de utilização de
 diretórios, ou seja, saber quanto cada diretório, e seus subdiretórios, está
 ocupando de espaço em disco.

 Tem um programinha chamado filelight. Ele dá de forma gráfica as
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Horário do squid

2009-10-01 Thread Gustavo Tadeu
Boa Tarde Pessoal, 

 

Estou com um pequeno problema com o squid.

 

Ele está apresentando 3 horas adiantadas do horário do sistema.

Isso está causando um problema, pois tenho uma regra onde permito alguns sites 
no horário de almoço, desta forma quando chega o horário de almoço a regra não 
esta funcionando.

 

Existe algum item no squid.conf para configuração ou sincronização de horário?

Alguém tem alguma idéia do que pode ser?

 

 

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instalar VPN

2009-10-01 Thread Célio Roberto
Alguém tem um tutorial para implantação de uma VPN?
Tenho um servidor com Lenny e gostaria de acessar de outro escritório
através de máquinas com XP e Vista.




Obrigado


Re: instalar VPN

2009-10-01 Thread Alex Paulo Laner
http://everlinux.com/artigos/openvpn.html

Alex Paulo Laner aka rootsh

2009/10/1 Célio Roberto celioc...@gmail.com



 Alguém tem um tutorial para implantação de uma VPN?
 Tenho um servidor com Lenny e gostaria de acessar de outro escritório
 através de máquinas com XP e Vista.




 Obrigado



Servidor de arquivos

2009-10-01 Thread Christian Gmail

Pessoal !
Gostaria de saber como eu faço para criar um servidor de arquivos no 
Debian com autenticação no AD de um servidor WINDOWS 2008.


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Re: Servidor de arquivos

2009-10-01 Thread Tiago Almeida
Easy:

http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu-9.04-samba-server-integrated-with-active-directory

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[RESOLVIDO!!] Re: PROXY AUTENTICA + MSN-2009

2009-10-01 Thread Flávio R. Lopes

Galera, obrigado  pela ajuda, mas consegui resolver o problema!
No proprio site da Microsoft tem uma página que mostra quais as portas e 
os links que a merda do MSN-2009 usa!

Tem cerca de 27 dominios! (muitos CNAME uns dos outros!)

Fiz umas regras no meu firewall tirando estas portas e links da 
autenticação do squid!


Mas mesmo assim vcs me ajudaram!...abraço a todos!


Flávio R. Lopes escreveu:

Olá galera!
Depois que tive que atualizar o MSN em nossos clientes com a versão 
2009, estou tendo um problema que fica caindo direto...as vezes 
não carrega a lista de contatos, etc


Se eu fizer somente o NAT nas minhas regras de Firewall parece que 
fica mais estável!!pensando nisso coloquei regras no meu Firewall 
que faz uma passagem direta entre o servidor e as estações, mas 
ainda continua caindo!!


Não sei se coloquei todos os IP's que autenticam o MSN tipo 
live.com, msn.com, hotmail.com, etc


Alguém está passando por este problema?conseguiram resolver?

Abraço,
Flávio





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Receber cópia dos e-mails dos usuário s

2009-10-01 Thread Edson - PMSS




Como fao para receber cpia de todos os e-mails que os usurios
recebem. Eu uso sendmail.
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HD externo

2009-10-01 Thread Roberto Torres
Tem como fixar em qual /dev um HD externo vai aparecer ?

Tenho um HD externo aqui para backup no Debian.

E cada hora ele aparece de uma maneira: /dev/sdc , /dev/sdd e as vezes
/dev/sde

Quero que ele sempre apareça no mesmo /dev como pro exemplo /dev/sdc.

Tem como isso ser feito ?


Obrigado

Roberto


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não consigo criar sistema de arquivo ou montar particao de segundo HD

2009-10-01 Thread Vinicius

Vou explicar:

Debian squeeze, kernel 2.6.30

O Debian esta instalado em uma partição de um HD IDE, identificado como 
/dev/hda, que é o HD de inicialização do sistema, gerenciado pelo GRUB 2


Instalei um segundo HD SATA, que esta identificado como /dev/sda

Via cfdisk consigo criar e gerenciar partiçoes neste hd SATA, sem problemas.
Mas, ao tentar criar um sistema de arquivo em qualquer partição deste 
HD, via mkfs, me retorna uma mensagem de erro informando que o 
dispositivo pode estar em uso, e não consigo criar o FS.


Tentei formatar uma partição, fora do ambiente, via um live CD, com sucesso.
Ao reiniciar o debian, tentei montar esta partição, mas retorna a mesma 
mensagem de erro.
Então não consigo criar um sistema de arquivo e nem montar qualquer 
partição nesse HD SATA, apenas gerenciar suas partições via cfdisk.


A tempos atrás nessa mesma máquina estava instalado um outro HD SATA, 
identificado como /dev/sda, funcionando perfeitamente, mas o kernel não 
era o 2.6.30, acho que era versão anterior ao 2.6.26, antes do lenny 
ficar estável.


Alguem tem alguma luz? Onde começo a procurar?
Nesta maquina tambem tenho um gravador de dvd SATA, funcionando 
perfeitamente, identificado como /dev/sr0


obrigado

Vinicius


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Re: HD externo

2009-10-01 Thread Paulino Kenji Sato
2009/10/1 Roberto Torres jrtor...@bol.com.br:
 Tem como fixar em qual /dev um HD externo vai aparecer ?

 Tenho um HD externo aqui para backup no Debian.

 E cada hora ele aparece de uma maneira: /dev/sdc , /dev/sdd e as vezes
 /dev/sde

 Quero que ele sempre apareça no mesmo /dev como pro exemplo /dev/sdc.

 Tem como isso ser feito ?

Acredito que não.
O sub sistema do SCSI vai escolher o primeiro device que estiver vago.
O dispositivo pode ter sido removido mas o device não liberado.
Costuma ocorrer quando o reconectado muito rapidamente.

O seu problema, deve ser manter um ponto de montagem conhecido para
esse HD, para isso pode usar o identificador do volume, o nome (label)
do volume dentre outros.

Exemplos (baseados na man mount)
mount -L backup01 /mnt/backup01
mount -U D2F88582F8856617 /mnt/backup01

Isso pode ser automatizado através das regras do udev. (não sei assim
de imediato como fazer)


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Re: [RESOLVIDO!!] Re: PROXY AUTENTICA + MSN-2009

2009-10-01 Thread Rafael Bedendo

Posta o link por favor.

Flávio R. Lopes escreveu:

Galera, obrigado  pela ajuda, mas consegui resolver o problema!
No proprio site da Microsoft tem uma página que mostra quais as portas 
e os links que a merda do MSN-2009 usa!

Tem cerca de 27 dominios! (muitos CNAME uns dos outros!)

Fiz umas regras no meu firewall tirando estas portas e links da 
autenticação do squid!


Mas mesmo assim vcs me ajudaram!...abraço a todos!


Flávio R. Lopes escreveu:

Olá galera!
Depois que tive que atualizar o MSN em nossos clientes com a versão 
2009, estou tendo um problema que fica caindo direto...as vezes 
não carrega a lista de contatos, etc


Se eu fizer somente o NAT nas minhas regras de Firewall parece que 
fica mais estável!!pensando nisso coloquei regras no meu Firewall 
que faz uma passagem direta entre o servidor e as estações, mas 
ainda continua caindo!!


Não sei se coloquei todos os IP's que autenticam o MSN tipo 
live.com, msn.com, hotmail.com, etc


Alguém está passando por este problema?conseguiram resolver?

Abraço,
Flávio








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Re: HD externo

2009-10-01 Thread hamacker
Sim, é possivel.
Ao inves de identificar seu disco externo como /dev/sdN, use o label
que identifica o seu disco.

$ ls /dev/disk/by-uuid/ -l
total 0
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 2009-10-01 19:12 2C88743C8874071C - ../../sda2
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 2009-10-01 19:12
6379d808-1333-4a93-a1f6-4d7d04306392 - ../../sda4
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 2009-10-01 23:10 6414-748F - ../../sdb1
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 2009-10-01 19:12
c434f3fb-6040-402f-802d-1b263261f859 - ../../sda1
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 2009-10-01 19:12
fc08a559-9b19-484d-b706-f5e06122514e - ../../sda3

Ao inves do /dev/sdN, use como referencia o UUID que o está identificando, ex :
$ sudo mount -t auto /dev/disk/by-uuid/6414-748F /mnt/disco

ou melhor ainda :

sudo mount -t auto UUID=6414-748F /mnt/disco

Usando o UUID,não importa em que porta voce conecte seu disco, seja
USB, firewire, esata, ... voce sempre montará da mesma forma, só vai
mudar se voce reformatar o disco.

No ambiente grafico (estou falando do GNOME), as propriedades do disco
voce pode informar onde aquele dispositivo será montado. Mas vai com
cuidado, no meu teste eu errei as opcoes e não consegui consertar o
erro :(

[]'s e sucesso.

2009/10/1 Roberto Torres jrtor...@bol.com.br:
 Tem como fixar em qual /dev um HD externo vai aparecer ?

 Tenho um HD externo aqui para backup no Debian.

 E cada hora ele aparece de uma maneira: /dev/sdc , /dev/sdd e as vezes
 /dev/sde

 Quero que ele sempre apareça no mesmo /dev como pro exemplo /dev/sdc.

 Tem como isso ser feito ?


 Obrigado

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Re: Horário do squid

2009-10-01 Thread hamacker
execute o 'date' e 'date -u' e veja que hora ele tá dando.
O 'date' mostrará a hora local e o 'date -u' mostrará o horario UTC.
Se ambos forem iguais, basta acertar a hora do seu sistema seja na
bios ou diretamente no prompt.
Se 'date' estiver correto, aí teremos de ver o squid.conf e notar se
há algo nele que esteja compensando a hora local.

[]'s


2009/10/1 Gustavo Tadeu gust...@kontact.com.br:
 Boa Tarde Pessoal,



 Estou com um pequeno problema com o squid.



 Ele está apresentando 3 horas adiantadas do horário do sistema.

 Isso está causando um problema, pois tenho uma regra onde permito alguns
 sites no horário de almoço, desta forma quando chega o horário de almoço a
 regra não esta funcionando.



 Existe algum item no squid.conf para configuração ou sincronização de
 horário?

 Alguém tem alguma idéia do que pode ser?





 Obrigado,

 Gustavo Tadeu
 Analista de Suporte Técnico
 Phone: (55-11)  3931-2788
 E-Mail: gust...@kontact.com.br
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Re: OpenSSHD Server

2009-10-01 Thread Brent Clark

On 01/10/2009 05:29, Roman Gelfand wrote:

Everytime I am connecting to my server via ssh, memory utilizaiton
appears to be increasing.  Is there memory leak issues with sshd or,
perhaps, there is a maintenance that needs to be performed? or just
configuraiton setting?

Thanks in advance


   


When you say connect . Do you mean with just ssh for administrative 
tasks, or we talking connect with scp and downloading / uploading something.


Theres many way too look at this. You may want to give a more detailed 
idea as to what you are doing.


HTH

Kind Regards
Brent Clark


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Re: logging out fails in KDE4 (debian testing)

2009-10-01 Thread Γιώργος Πάλλας

Justin Piszcz wrote:

I installed xserver-xorg-video-intel-dbg but I don't know what to do
now. I reproduced it, and both at dmesg and /var/log/Xorg.log I get
exactly the same things that I posted earlier. With dbg, should I do
something different? Where does it write its trace?

Giorgos




Run ulimit -a and see if you have core files set to 0 or unlimited.

You want to run gdb against the core and run bt full for a full 
backtrace and include that along with the logs for your report.


$ gdb application core.Xorg

gdb bt full

Send this  logs in the bug report.





ulimit -a gives me:
core file size  (blocks, -c) 0
data seg size   (kbytes, -d) unlimited
scheduling priority (-e) 0
file size   (blocks, -f) unlimited
pending signals (-i) 16382
max locked memory   (kbytes, -l) 64
max memory size (kbytes, -m) unlimited
open files  (-n) 1024
pipe size(512 bytes, -p) 8
POSIX message queues (bytes, -q) 819200
real-time priority  (-r) 0
stack size  (kbytes, -s) 8192
cpu time   (seconds, -t) unlimited
max user processes  (-u) unlimited
virtual memory  (kbytes, -v) unlimited
file locks  (-x) unlimited

Other than that, I do not understand your instructions... For my case 
where the 'application' crashing is the Xserver, how will I run gdb on it?




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Re: using skype with a bluetooth headset

2009-10-01 Thread Micha Feigin
On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 09:45:03 -0700
Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote:

 On Sun, 2009-09-20 at 16:55 +0300, Micha Feigin wrote:
  I'm to get skype working with my bluetooth headset
 
  Any idea on what I'm missing?
 
 The part where you shouldn't use Skype to begin with because they're
 pirating GPL'd software, apparently.
 

Fine, then do you have a skype compatible software or any other voip software
that you can tell me how to use a bluetooth headset with?

BTW, I also use matlab, mathematica, nvidia drivers and a few other proprietary
software that I can't do without, sorry ...


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Re: Why can't I install skype on debian?

2009-10-01 Thread Micha Feigin
On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 09:54:41 -0700
Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote:

 On Thu, 2009-09-17 at 10:09 -0700, Charlie Dorff wrote:
  Hi...
  I installed debian using a netinstall and then tried to install skype
  but got an error message saying 
  could not open skype-debian_2.1.0.47-1_1386.deb. Does anyone know
  what I am doing wrong? Thanks in advance.
  
  Charlie
  
 
 Besides encouraging a known pirate of GPL software?
 

What GPL software did the pirate, why don't you sue them for it and why are you
anal?


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Re: How to compile and install the kernel

2009-10-01 Thread Pavlos Parissis
2009/10/1 surreal firewal...@gmail.com:
 This might seem lame but still, I would like to know about compiling a
 custom kernel using debian lenny.

 the usual /usr/src/linux-2.6.N/make menuconfig;make ;make
 modules_install;make bzImage;make install dosent seem to work.

 It only copies vmlinux* and bzImage file into /boot, but initrd and img
 files are missing..

 why? The above method used to work perfectly in RH derived distros, in
 debian it seems diff...


Take a look at this article,
http://www.howtoforge.com/roll_a_kernel_debian_ubuntu_way

Cheers,
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Re: free alternative acroread

2009-10-01 Thread Brad Rogers
On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 23:54:41 -0400
Celejar cele...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello Celejar,

  option Fit to printable area in the print dialog.  
 Can you describe exactly what that option does?

Just what it says;  Reduces pages to fit the printable area of the
currently selected paper size, whilst maintaining aspect ratio.

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Re: How to compile and install the kernel

2009-10-01 Thread Pavlos Parissis
2009/10/1 surreal firewal...@gmail.com:
 Thanks, I read that, compiled the kernel and its working.

 But now I have a problem.

 The kernel deb file gets installed, but it has got the same name ie Debian
 Kernel 2.6.26 in /boot/grub/menu.lst..

 I want to have the customized kernel name as default, any way to do this?

The following information from the article will help you

To build the kernel you'll invoke make-kpkg, a script which
automates and replaces the sequence make dep; make clean; make
bzImage; make modules. Take a few minutes and read over the manual
page for make-kpkg. The make-kpkg command line can be complex and at
first intimidating. Its basic syntax is

bash:/usr/src$ make-kpkg options target

Your target will be kernel_image. Let's examine two of the more
important and common options, --append-to-version and --revision.
--append-to-version

The first option lets you specify an addition to the kernel version,
which then becomes part of the kernel's name. You may use alphanumeric
characters, + and . (period or full stop); do not use underscore
_.

Here's the kernel I'm running now:

bash:/usr/src$ /usr/src/$ uname -a
Linux da5id 2.6.8.1-2-k7 #1 Sat Sep 18 11:23:11 BST 2004 i686 GNU/Linux

You should avoid using --append-to-version values such as -686,
-K7, and -sparc. They are commonly used for Debian pre-compiled
kernels.

Kernel modules live in subdirectories of /lib/modules; each kernel has
its own subdirectory. Every time you install a kernel image with a new
name, the package installer creates a new subdirectory of /lib/modules
to hold its modules.

This means that by using a new value for --append-to-version each time
you build a kernel image, you can ensure that the new kernel will have
a new name, and that its modules won't conflict with those of other
kernels.

/!\ If you install a kernel with the same name (the same version and
--append-to-version) as an already-installed kernel, installing the
new kernel package will overwrite the old kernel and its modules. You
will be warned and offered the chance to abort. Take it. Use another
value for --append-to-version and rebuild.
--revision

Another make-kpkg option is --revision, which affects the name of
the Debian package itself but not the kernel name. As with
--append-to-version, you may use only alphanumeric characters, + and
.. Do not use underscores _. If you do not supply a value for
--revision, make-kpkg will use 10.00.Custom.

Using different values of --revision will not prevent conflicts
between kernels with the same name. They are just for you to see the
difference, for example recompiling the same kernel with a very small
change.
Kernel package names

Debian kernel-image file names have the form

kernel-image-(kernel-version)(--append-to-version)_(--revision)_(architecture).deb

The package name is everything before the first underscore.

bash:/usr/src$ ls
kernel-image-2.6.8.1.181004_10.00.Custom_i386.deb

Now you can see why underscores are not allowed in make-kpkg options ?
they separate the elements of package names.

I recommend using a different --append-to-version value for each
kernel you compile, and letting make-kpkg assign the default revision.
Date-based values work for me, but you are free to invent your own
scheme.

{i} Please read /usr/share/doc/kernel-package/README.gz if
--append-to-version or --revision is unclear, or if you plan on using
options different from the ones I suggest. (One way to do this is
zless README.gz.) Ignore the discussions of flavours and epochs
until you are more familiar with make-kpkg and with Debian packages
generally; they are not likely to be useful to you now.
fakeroot


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xemacs crash caused by near-simultaneous keystrokes

2009-10-01 Thread Russell L. Harris
On a recent Debian Lenny installation on an amd64 system, Xemacs
crashes constantly.

The crashes appear to be caused by the near-simultaneous pressing of
two keys.  I am able to avoid crashing Xemacs only if I type very
slowly and carefully so as to hit only one key at a time.

This is not a problem on an i386 system running Etch.  The amd64 is
the only machine I have running Lenny.  I never have run Etch on the
amd64 machine.  

RLH


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Re: free alternative acroread

2009-10-01 Thread Lisi
On Thursday 01 October 2009 08:34:19 Brad Rogers wrote:
 On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 23:54:41 -0400
 Celejar cele...@gmail.com wrote:

   option Fit to printable area in the print dialog.
 
  Can you describe exactly what that option does?

 Just what it says;  Reduces pages to fit the printable area of the
 currently selected paper size, whilst maintaining aspect ratio.


Hi, Brad -

Does it not simply do exactly what it says - fit - so that it decreases the 
image if it is larger than the printable area, but _increases_ the image if 
it is smaller?

Lisi



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asymptote or tikz?

2009-10-01 Thread abdelkader belahcene
Hi,
I want to produce graphics to include them in latex, I used at now xfig,
but I something more automatic, which one is better  and maybe in which
case,  asymptote or tikz , may be another one ??

If somebody tried  them .
Thanks for hints, and help

best regards
bela


Re: free alternative acroread

2009-10-01 Thread David Baron
On Thursday 01 October 2009 08:54:45 debian-user-digest-
requ...@lists.debian.org wrote:
  really would like to use only free software, but unfortunately
 acroread has a feature I didn't find so far in free alternatives: The
 option Fit to printable area in the print dialog.
 
 I have that always switched on, and as I have eye problems it's really
 very helpful for me.
 
 Is there any free pdf-reader with a similar option? Or, is there any
 easy way to achieve the same effect with free pdf-readers which don't
 have the option?
 

I have not used acroread in ages. Okular or xpdf work just fine.
There is no specific fit to printable area option on either, but you could 
check out various pdf tools around which can edit/modify pdf files.


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Re: free alternative acroread

2009-10-01 Thread Brad Rogers
On Thu, 1 Oct 2009 09:30:11 +0100
Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello Lisi,

 Does it not simply do exactly what it says - fit - so that it
 decreases the image if it is larger than the printable area, but
 _increases_ the image if it is smaller?

Ah, good point.  Hang on

With the two options Fit to printable area and Shrink to printable
area yes, the former will also increase the size to fit.  The latter,
obviously, doesn't increase size to avoid any problems with images for
example.

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mail server manager WUI

2009-10-01 Thread Umarzuki Mochlis
Hi, is there a open source email manager that can

   1. view spam stats (spamassassin etc.)
   2. notify before mailbox is full via email
   3. resize users mailbox quota
   4. send email in bulk
   5. view mailbox remaining space

Webmail such as squirrelmail have a few nice plugins that can view mailbox
space etc. but not all that i want. Any suggestion?


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Re: [myoss] mail server manager WUI

2009-10-01 Thread Umarzuki Mochlis
thanks maulvi, after i giving my best on qmailtoaster, i'll check on webmin.

2009/10/1 Maulvi Bakar mau...@maulvi.net

 Hi

 Apologies if you expect an all in one solution..

 1. There's a bunch of SpamAssassin analyzers, configurable separately
 2. My experience is with Cyrus, also have to be configured manually
 3. Rather than doing it manually via CLI, I used Webmin-based Cyrus
 Module.  Gives a nice web interface, just for the imap mailbox management,
 size, permissions, shared mailbox.
 4. This I believe you need a mailman.  I am sure there are other solutions.
 5. See number 3.

 Basically, from admin's point of view - Webmin.  You can even manage
 postfix queue from Webmin.


 Sincere regards

 Maulvi



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 Hi, is there a open source email manager that can

1. view spam stats (spamassassin etc.)
2. notify before mailbox is full via email
3. resize users mailbox quota
4. send email in bulk
5. view mailbox remaining space

 Webmail such as squirrelmail have a few nice plugins that can view mailbox
 space etc. but not all that i want. Any suggestion?


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[OT] Relocation lookup

2009-10-01 Thread Rakotomandimby Mihamina

Hi all,

Given the Social and Political reality in my country (Madagascar),
I am obliged to look for a relocation.
This is my public profile:
http://www.linkedin.com/in/mihaminarakotomandimby

Would you be aware of a position I could fit in?
Thank you.

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Re: [myoss] mail server manager WUI

2009-10-01 Thread Maulvi Bakar
Hi

Apologies if you expect an all in one solution..

1. There's a bunch of SpamAssassin analyzers, configurable separately
2. My experience is with Cyrus, also have to be configured manually
3. Rather than doing it manually via CLI, I used Webmin-based Cyrus Module.
Gives a nice web interface, just for the imap mailbox management, size,
permissions, shared mailbox.
4. This I believe you need a mailman.  I am sure there are other solutions.
5. See number 3.

Basically, from admin's point of view - Webmin.  You can even manage postfix
queue from Webmin.


Sincere regards

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1. view spam stats (spamassassin etc.)
2. notify before mailbox is full via email
3. resize users mailbox quota
4. send email in bulk
5. view mailbox remaining space

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Re: logging out fails in KDE4 (debian testing)

2009-10-01 Thread Justin Piszcz



On Thu, 1 Oct 2009, ??? ?? wrote:


Justin Piszcz wrote:

I installed xserver-xorg-video-intel-dbg but I don't know what to do
now. I reproduced it, and both at dmesg and /var/log/Xorg.log I get
exactly the same things that I posted earlier. With dbg, should I do
something different? Where does it write its trace?

Giorgos




Run ulimit -a and see if you have core files set to 0 or unlimited.

You want to run gdb against the core and run bt full for a full backtrace 
and include that along with the logs for your report.


$ gdb application core.Xorg

gdb bt full

Send this  logs in the bug report.





ulimit -a gives me:
core file size  (blocks, -c) 0
data seg size   (kbytes, -d) unlimited
scheduling priority (-e) 0
file size   (blocks, -f) unlimited
pending signals (-i) 16382
max locked memory   (kbytes, -l) 64
max memory size (kbytes, -m) unlimited
open files  (-n) 1024
pipe size(512 bytes, -p) 8
POSIX message queues (bytes, -q) 819200
real-time priority  (-r) 0
stack size  (kbytes, -s) 8192
cpu time   (seconds, -t) unlimited
max user processes  (-u) unlimited
virtual memory  (kbytes, -v) unlimited
file locks  (-x) unlimited

Other than that, I do not understand your instructions... For my case where 
the 'application' crashing is the Xserver, how will I run gdb on it?





You need to enable core files.

In a console:
1. ulimit -c unlimited
2. then reproduce the problem in that console (it should generate a core file)
3. find / -type f | grep -i core  (it is normally in the directory where you 
run the program)
4. gdb /usr/bin/Xorg /path/to/core
5. bt full
6. Send that in a bug report.

Justin.



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Re: logging out fails in KDE4 (debian testing)

2009-10-01 Thread Γιώργος Πάλλας

Justin Piszcz wrote:



On Thu, 1 Oct 2009, ??? ?? wrote:


Justin Piszcz wrote:

I installed xserver-xorg-video-intel-dbg but I don't know what to do
now. I reproduced it, and both at dmesg and /var/log/Xorg.log I get
exactly the same things that I posted earlier. With dbg, should I do
something different? Where does it write its trace?

Giorgos




Run ulimit -a and see if you have core files set to 0 or unlimited.

You want to run gdb against the core and run bt full for a full 
backtrace and include that along with the logs for your report.


$ gdb application core.Xorg

gdb bt full

Send this  logs in the bug report.





ulimit -a gives me:
core file size  (blocks, -c) 0
data seg size   (kbytes, -d) unlimited
scheduling priority (-e) 0
file size   (blocks, -f) unlimited
pending signals (-i) 16382
max locked memory   (kbytes, -l) 64
max memory size (kbytes, -m) unlimited
open files  (-n) 1024
pipe size(512 bytes, -p) 8
POSIX message queues (bytes, -q) 819200
real-time priority  (-r) 0
stack size  (kbytes, -s) 8192
cpu time   (seconds, -t) unlimited
max user processes  (-u) unlimited
virtual memory  (kbytes, -v) unlimited
file locks  (-x) unlimited

Other than that, I do not understand your instructions... For my case 
where the 'application' crashing is the Xserver, how will I run gdb 
on it?





You need to enable core files.

In a console:
1. ulimit -c unlimited
2. then reproduce the problem in that console (it should generate a 
core file)
3. find / -type f | grep -i core  (it is normally in the directory 
where you run the program)

4. gdb /usr/bin/Xorg /path/to/core
5. bt full
6. Send that in a bug report.

Justin.




Sorry to bother you again (maybe this advanced stuff should be left to 
the advanced users but I would like to help with this bug...), but the 
second step troubles me.


This thread goes about the xserver crashing when the user is logging out 
of X. So, how should I do it? How should I start the xserver from a 
console (not in X), so that when it crashes it leaves a core file?


sorry for my ignorance...
G.


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Re: logging out fails in KDE4 (debian testing)

2009-10-01 Thread Justin Piszcz



On Thu, 1 Oct 2009, ??? ?? wrote:


Justin Piszcz wrote:



On Thu, 1 Oct 2009, ??? ?? wrote:


Justin Piszcz wrote:

I installed xserver-xorg-video-intel-dbg but I don't know what to do
now. I reproduced it, and both at dmesg and /var/log/Xorg.log I get
exactly the same things that I posted earlier. With dbg, should I do
something different? Where does it write its trace?

Giorgos




Run ulimit -a and see if you have core files set to 0 or unlimited.

You want to run gdb against the core and run bt full for a full backtrace 
and include that along with the logs for your report.


$ gdb application core.Xorg

gdb bt full

Send this  logs in the bug report.





ulimit -a gives me:
core file size  (blocks, -c) 0
data seg size   (kbytes, -d) unlimited
scheduling priority (-e) 0
file size   (blocks, -f) unlimited
pending signals (-i) 16382
max locked memory   (kbytes, -l) 64
max memory size (kbytes, -m) unlimited
open files  (-n) 1024
pipe size(512 bytes, -p) 8
POSIX message queues (bytes, -q) 819200
real-time priority  (-r) 0
stack size  (kbytes, -s) 8192
cpu time   (seconds, -t) unlimited
max user processes  (-u) unlimited
virtual memory  (kbytes, -v) unlimited
file locks  (-x) unlimited

Other than that, I do not understand your instructions... For my case 
where the 'application' crashing is the Xserver, how will I run gdb on it?





You need to enable core files.

In a console:
1. ulimit -c unlimited
2. then reproduce the problem in that console (it should generate a core 
file)
3. find / -type f | grep -i core  (it is normally in the directory where 
you run the program)

4. gdb /usr/bin/Xorg /path/to/core
5. bt full
6. Send that in a bug report.

Justin.




Sorry to bother you again (maybe this advanced stuff should be left to the 
advanced users but I would like to help with this bug...), but the second 
step troubles me.


This thread goes about the xserver crashing when the user is logging out of 
X. So, how should I do it? How should I start the xserver from a console (not 
in X), so that when it crashes it leaves a core file?


sorry for my ignorance...
G.



Either enable global core files and reboot or run startx from the command 
line, then logout of KDE and you should have a core file.


Justin.


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Re: Why can't I install skype on debian?

2009-10-01 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In 20091001093319.73c90...@vivalunalitshi.luna.local, Micha Feigin wrote:
On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 09:54:41 -0700
Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote:
 On Thu, 2009-09-17 at 10:09 -0700, Charlie Dorff wrote:
  Hi...
  I installed debian using a netinstall and then tried to install skype.
  Does anyone know
  what I am doing wrong?

 Besides encouraging a known pirate of GPL software?

What GPL software did the[y] pirate,

Probably the standard set: Linux, coreutils, fileutils, and binutils, maybe 
busybox.

why don't you sue them for it

An injunction was already filed in a German court.  Skype initially counter-
sued claiming the GPL was anti-competitive.  Before the judges took up that 
issue, Skype dropped their counter-suit and are, as I understand it, in the 
process of complying with the GPL.

GIYF.

and why are
 you anal?

He probably feels it is very important to protect and inform the community.
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Re: can exim reject all mail for one recipient?

2009-10-01 Thread Ric Otte
I'm certainly not knowledgeable on these matters, but a google search  
gave me:

http://www.ii.com/internet/robots/procmail/qs/#reject
That and other pages seemed to suggest it was better to have exim  
rather than procmail reject mail.

Ric

On Sep 30, 2009, at 8:48 PM, Girish Kulkarni wrote:


On Wed, 30 Sep 2009, Ric Otte wrote:

I believe it is bad to use procmail to reject mail, ...


Why is that?

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Problem gnome-keyring svn in sid

2009-10-01 Thread Juan Fernando Jaramillo Botero
Hello everybody, I have a problem when I make svn up in sid:

svn up
Password for 'login' GNOME keyring: 
svn: OPTIONS de 'https://svn.miginternacional.com/mig': falló la
autorización: Could not authenticate to server: rejected Basic challenge
(https://svn.miginternacional.com)

But if I use:
sudo su - myuser
svn up 

work well, I uninstall the gnome-keyring, but when I make: apt-get dis-upgrade, 
it reinstall it again.

Some body have an idea?

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Re: Why can't I install skype on debian?

2009-10-01 Thread Terence
and why are you anal?

 He probably feels it is very important to protect and inform the community.
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and there are a lot of a--holes on the list...

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Re: logging out fails in KDE4 (debian testing)

2009-10-01 Thread Γιώργος Πάλλας
Justin Piszcz wrote:


 On Thu, 1 Oct 2009, ??? ?? wrote:

 Justin Piszcz wrote:


 On Thu, 1 Oct 2009, ??? ?? wrote:

 Justin Piszcz wrote:
 I installed xserver-xorg-video-intel-dbg but I don't know what to do
 now. I reproduced it, and both at dmesg and /var/log/Xorg.log I get
 exactly the same things that I posted earlier. With dbg, should I do
 something different? Where does it write its trace?

 Giorgos



 Run ulimit -a and see if you have core files set to 0 or unlimited.

 You want to run gdb against the core and run bt full for a full
 backtrace and include that along with the logs for your report.

 $ gdb application core.Xorg

 gdb bt full

 Send this  logs in the bug report.




 ulimit -a gives me:
 core file size  (blocks, -c) 0
 data seg size   (kbytes, -d) unlimited
 scheduling priority (-e) 0
 file size   (blocks, -f) unlimited
 pending signals (-i) 16382
 max locked memory   (kbytes, -l) 64
 max memory size (kbytes, -m) unlimited
 open files  (-n) 1024
 pipe size(512 bytes, -p) 8
 POSIX message queues (bytes, -q) 819200
 real-time priority  (-r) 0
 stack size  (kbytes, -s) 8192
 cpu time   (seconds, -t) unlimited
 max user processes  (-u) unlimited
 virtual memory  (kbytes, -v) unlimited
 file locks  (-x) unlimited

 Other than that, I do not understand your instructions... For my
 case where the 'application' crashing is the Xserver, how will I
 run gdb on it?



 You need to enable core files.

 In a console:
 1. ulimit -c unlimited
 2. then reproduce the problem in that console (it should generate a
 core file)
 3. find / -type f | grep -i core  (it is normally in the directory
 where you run the program)
 4. gdb /usr/bin/Xorg /path/to/core
 5. bt full
 6. Send that in a bug report.

 Justin.



 Sorry to bother you again (maybe this advanced stuff should be left
 to the advanced users but I would like to help with this bug...), but
 the second step troubles me.

 This thread goes about the xserver crashing when the user is logging
 out of X. So, how should I do it? How should I start the xserver from
 a console (not in X), so that when it crashes it leaves a core file?

 sorry for my ignorance...
 G.


 Either enable global core files and reboot or run startx from the
 command line, then logout of KDE and you should have a core file.

 Justin.

Thanks for the help!
Does this look like it should? Is it useful for a bugreport?

mordor:~/tmp/xcrash# gdb /usr/bin/Xorg ./core
GNU gdb (GDB) 6.8.50.20090628-cvs-debian
Copyright (C) 2009 Free Software Foundation, Inc.   
License GPLv3+: GNU GPL version 3 or later
http://gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html
This is free software: you are free to change and redistribute
it.  
There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law.  Type show
copying  
and show warranty for
details.
This GDB was configured as
x86_64-linux-gnu.  
For bug reporting instructions, please
see: 
http://www.gnu.org/software/gdb/bugs/...  

(no debugging symbols
found)

warning: Can't read pathname for load map: Input/output error.
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libpciaccess.so.0...(no debugging symbols
found)...done.
Loaded symbols for
/usr/lib/libpciaccess.so.0
Reading symbols from /lib/libdl.so.2...(no debugging symbols
found)...done.  
Loaded symbols for
/lib/libdl.so.2   
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libXfont.so.1...(no debugging symbols
found)...done.   
Loaded symbols for
/usr/lib/libXfont.so.1
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libXau.so.6...(no debugging symbols
found)...done. 
Loaded symbols for
/usr/lib/libXau.so.6  
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libfontenc.so.1...(no debugging symbols
found)...done. 
Loaded symbols for
/usr/lib/libfontenc.so.1  
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libpixman-1.so.0...(no debugging symbols
found)...done.
Loaded symbols for
/usr/lib/libpixman-1.so.0 
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libhal.so.1...(no debugging symbols
found)...done. 
Loaded symbols for
/usr/lib/libhal.so.1  
Reading symbols from /lib/libdbus-1.so.3...(no debugging symbols
found)...done.  
Loaded symbols for
/lib/libdbus-1.so.3   
Reading symbols from /lib/libpthread.so.0...(no debugging symbols
found)...done. 
Loaded symbols for
/lib/libpthread.so.0  
Reading symbols from 

Re: logging out fails in KDE4 (debian testing)

2009-10-01 Thread Justin Piszcz
Yeah, it looks good, looks like it is an Xorg/Intel problem from the 
trace, adding x...@lists.freedesktop.org to the cc list to see if this 
report is sufficient or if they would like you to submit the bug somewhere 
specific (bug tracker, etc).


On Thu, 1 Oct 2009, ??? ?? wrote:


Justin Piszcz wrote:



On Thu, 1 Oct 2009, ??? ?? wrote:


Justin Piszcz wrote:



On Thu, 1 Oct 2009, ??? ?? wrote:


Justin Piszcz wrote:

I installed xserver-xorg-video-intel-dbg but I don't know what to do
now. I reproduced it, and both at dmesg and /var/log/Xorg.log I get
exactly the same things that I posted earlier. With dbg, should I do
something different? Where does it write its trace?

Giorgos




Run ulimit -a and see if you have core files set to 0 or unlimited.

You want to run gdb against the core and run bt full for a full
backtrace and include that along with the logs for your report.

$ gdb application core.Xorg

gdb bt full

Send this  logs in the bug report.





ulimit -a gives me:
core file size  (blocks, -c) 0
data seg size   (kbytes, -d) unlimited
scheduling priority (-e) 0
file size   (blocks, -f) unlimited
pending signals (-i) 16382
max locked memory   (kbytes, -l) 64
max memory size (kbytes, -m) unlimited
open files  (-n) 1024
pipe size(512 bytes, -p) 8
POSIX message queues (bytes, -q) 819200
real-time priority  (-r) 0
stack size  (kbytes, -s) 8192
cpu time   (seconds, -t) unlimited
max user processes  (-u) unlimited
virtual memory  (kbytes, -v) unlimited
file locks  (-x) unlimited

Other than that, I do not understand your instructions... For my
case where the 'application' crashing is the Xserver, how will I
run gdb on it?




You need to enable core files.

In a console:
1. ulimit -c unlimited
2. then reproduce the problem in that console (it should generate a
core file)
3. find / -type f | grep -i core  (it is normally in the directory
where you run the program)
4. gdb /usr/bin/Xorg /path/to/core
5. bt full
6. Send that in a bug report.

Justin.




Sorry to bother you again (maybe this advanced stuff should be left
to the advanced users but I would like to help with this bug...), but
the second step troubles me.

This thread goes about the xserver crashing when the user is logging
out of X. So, how should I do it? How should I start the xserver from
a console (not in X), so that when it crashes it leaves a core file?

sorry for my ignorance...
G.



Either enable global core files and reboot or run startx from the
command line, then logout of KDE and you should have a core file.

Justin.


Thanks for the help!
Does this look like it should? Is it useful for a bugreport?

mordor:~/tmp/xcrash# gdb /usr/bin/Xorg ./core
GNU gdb (GDB) 6.8.50.20090628-cvs-debian
Copyright (C) 2009 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
License GPLv3+: GNU GPL version 3 or later
http://gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html
This is free software: you are free to change and redistribute
it.
There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law.  Type show
copying
and show warranty for
details.
This GDB was configured as
x86_64-linux-gnu.
For bug reporting instructions, please
see:
http://www.gnu.org/software/gdb/bugs/...

(no debugging symbols
found)

warning: Can't read pathname for load map: Input/output error.
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libpciaccess.so.0...(no debugging symbols
found)...done.
Loaded symbols for
/usr/lib/libpciaccess.so.0
Reading symbols from /lib/libdl.so.2...(no debugging symbols
found)...done.
Loaded symbols for
/lib/libdl.so.2
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libXfont.so.1...(no debugging symbols
found)...done.
Loaded symbols for
/usr/lib/libXfont.so.1
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libXau.so.6...(no debugging symbols
found)...done.
Loaded symbols for
/usr/lib/libXau.so.6
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libfontenc.so.1...(no debugging symbols
found)...done.
Loaded symbols for
/usr/lib/libfontenc.so.1
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libpixman-1.so.0...(no debugging symbols
found)...done.
Loaded symbols for
/usr/lib/libpixman-1.so.0
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libhal.so.1...(no debugging symbols
found)...done.
Loaded symbols for
/usr/lib/libhal.so.1
Reading symbols from /lib/libdbus-1.so.3...(no debugging symbols
found)...done.
Loaded symbols for
/lib/libdbus-1.so.3
Reading symbols from /lib/libpthread.so.0...(no debugging symbols
found)...done.
Loaded symbols for
/lib/libpthread.so.0
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libXdmcp.so.6...(no debugging symbols
found)...done.
Loaded symbols for
/usr/lib/libXdmcp.so.6
Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libgcrypt.so.11...(no debugging symbols
found)...done.
Loaded symbols for
/usr/lib/libgcrypt.so.11
Reading symbols from /lib/libaudit.so.0...(no debugging symbols
found)...done.
Loaded symbols for
/lib/libaudit.so.0
Reading symbols from /lib/libselinux.so.1...(no debugging symbols

Re: logging out fails in KDE4 (debian testing)

2009-10-01 Thread Γιώργος Πάλλας
Justin Piszcz wrote:
 Yeah, it looks good, looks like it is an Xorg/Intel problem from the
 trace, adding x...@lists.freedesktop.org to the cc list to see if this
 report is sufficient or if they would like you to submit the bug
 somewhere specific (bug tracker, etc).


OK, thanks for all your help!
I submitted it also at debian bugs, as extra info to bug: 539064.


Giorgos



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Re: Another Firefox and sound problem

2009-10-01 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 20:59, Marc Shapiro mshapiro...@yahoo.com wrote:
 This is an intermittent problem with no discernible pattern, other than that
 it is a problem with sound and flash.  Most of the time flash works just
 fine.  Every now and then, however, the video will continue as it should,
 but the audio gets stuck in about a one second continuous loop.  So far, I
 have to close Firefox down and usually I find that there is a runaway
 Firefox process that needs to be shut down as well (just like in the thread
 about getting sound back). Does anyone know how to fix this?

I don't know about this problem specifically, but I stopped having
FF/Flash/sound problems when I installed PulseAudio. Of course,
many people are against PA, often along with most of the other
useful modern desktop technologies...


Cheers,
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Re: OpenSSHD Server

2009-10-01 Thread Roman Gelfand
Both scp for uploading files and putty when performing administrative tasks.

Thanks for your help.


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debdelta servers

2009-10-01 Thread Wayne Topa

Hi

  I recently discover the debdelta package and wonder, if anyone else 
using it, has found any other servers that support it?


  It does save me some $$ by keeping my downloads below my monthly 
limit but the one server, run by the maintainer, does not have a large 
number of the .debdelta available.


  I have search for other servers but for some reason it seems that it 
has not been integrated into the Debian system yet.  Hope that I am 
wrong on that.  :-)


Thanks
Wayne


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Re: Another Firefox and sound problem

2009-10-01 Thread Hugh Lawson
Kelly Clowers kelly.clow...@gmail.com writes:


 I don't know about this problem specifically, but I stopped having
 FF/Flash/sound problems when I installed PulseAudio. Of course,
 many people are against PA, often along with most of the other
 useful modern desktop technologies...

Can you point to a good primer on PA, something that explains how to
set it up in Lenny?

Hugh



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Re: Another Firefox and sound problem

2009-10-01 Thread Tiago Almeida
Just my 2 cents,

Starting firefox from a terminal (xterm, gnome-terminal, etc) should
be a good idea, since some error messages can be displayed there,
pointing the root of failure.

Have you done this already?

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Autoremove appears to want to remove most of Gnome

2009-10-01 Thread AG

Hi

Recently when installing a new package I noticed that apt-get seems to 
want to remove most (all?) of my Gnome-related applications, suggesting 
that I run autoremove to do so.


This is the (rather long) list:

The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer 
required:
 libmono-addins-gui0.2-cil mono-2.0-gac dmsetup mesa-utils 
libfreebob0   
 libempathy23 planner tomboy ekiga libgsf-gnome-1-114 
python-opengl  
 libnm-glib-vpn0 gcalctool gthumb telepathy-salut gnuchess-book 
gnome-nettool
 libgoffice-0-common epiphany-extensions-more 
gnome-games-extra-data 
 libgtk-vnc-1.0-0 libgnomepanel2.24-cil libopenraw1 
libboost-regex1.38.0 
 hal-cups-utils libdmraid1.0.0.rc15 libglade2.0-cil libtelepathy-glib0 
pkg-config
 libxml-libxml-common-perl libglib2.0-cil 
abiword-plugin-goffice
 libclutter-gtk-0.8-0 obex-data-server libbrasero-media0 
brasero-common 
 libdatetime-locale-perl python-gnome2-extras libopenrawgnome1 
gucharmap
 python-evince network-manager gnome-games cheese gdebi 
libparams-validate-perl 
 evolution-exchange libgconf2.0-cil libots0 
gnome-bluetooth 
 libxml-namespacesupport-perl libspectre1 update-manager-core 
hardinfo  
 libclass-accessor-perl gnome-power-manager gnome-cards-data 
gthumb-data
 liferea-data gparted cli-common libglew1.5 ggzcore-bin 
gnome-screensaver   
 gnome-themes-more rhythmbox libgtksourceview1.0-0 
libgstfarsight0.10-0 
 telepathy-mission-control libnm-util1 gtk2-engines-pixbuf 
gnome-office 
 system-config-printer libaiksaurusgtk-1.2-0c2a 
libmissioncontrol-client0   
 abiword-common update-manager-gnome evince-common 
abiword  
 abiword-plugin-mathview latex-xft-fonts python-gtkglext1 
libwww-curl-perl  
 libpcap0.8 libart2.0-cil libjs-jquery libaiksaurus-1.2-0c2a 
gnome-themes   
 update-notifier-common seahorse libggzmod4 libterm-readkey-perl 
empathy
 python-apt libempathy-common gdebi-core libempathy-gtk19 
libxml-sax-expat-perl 
 gvfs-bin vinagre swfdec-gnome gnumeric-common clive-utils 
update-notifier  
 libgnome2.24-cil python-gdl libndesk-dbus1.0-cil 
seahorse-plugins  
 libclutter-0.8-0 python-gtksourceview libmono-cairo2.0-cil 
gedit-plugins   
 libtelepathy-farsight0 network-manager-gnome python-gtkspell kpartx 
libpcsclite1
 libgnome-bluetooth2 gconf-defaults-service guile-1.8-libs 
wwwconfig-common 
 dnsmasq-base link-grammar-dictionaries-en 
python-gtkhtml2  
 libuniversal-require-perl gnome-themes-extras libalut0 
libopal3.6.4
 libmono-i18n-west2.0-cil libgssdp-1.0-1 libcryptui0 
libhtml-strip-perl 
 libxml-rss-libxml-perl libparted1.8-12 
libmono-addins0.2-cil   
 fast-user-switch-applet abiword-help libmono-posix2.0-cil 
gnome-volume-manager 
 libgnomeprint2.2-data libkpathsea4 libmono-security2.0-cil 
libt1-5 
 gtk2-engines-smooth libaiksaurus-1.2-data libio-stty-perl 
libwv-1.2-3  
 python-gnomeprint python-4suite-doc gnome-backgrounds clive 
libgdome2-0
 python-sexy libgtk2.0-cil libxml-libxml-perl mono-gac libnm-glib0 
python-vte   
 libggz2 libsub-name-perl abiword-plugin-grammar python-metacity 
libxml-sax-perl
 tsclient rdesktop libdatetime-perl libevince1 libgtksourceview-common 
vino 
 evince gnome-games-data python-rsvg gnome-app-install 
libffado1
 libboost-iostreams1.38.0 python-cupsutils ppp libgtkhtml2-0 
libgoffice-0-4 
 telepathy-gabble libgoffice-0-8 
libmissioncontrol-server1  
 libmono-sharpzip2.84-cil python-mediaprofiles 
libtelepathy2
 libcrypt-twofish-perl libpt2.6.4-plugins 
libmono-corlib2.0-cil 
 libgetopt-argvfile-perl libdatetime-format-w3cdtf-perl 
gstreamer0.10-nice  
 python-bugbuddy mono-runtime libpt2.6.4 libudev0 liferea 
libxml++2.6-2 
 wpasupplicant python-totem-plparser 
libgdome2-cpp-smart0c2a
 libclutter-cairo-0.8-0 libgupnp-1.0-2 libio-pty-perl 
python-cups   
 libcrypt-passwdmd5-perl xorg-docs libnl1 dmz-cursor-theme 
python-evolution 
 python-4suite-xml gnumeric javascript-common perl-tk 
libberkeleydb-perl rss-glx
 libndesk-dbus-glib1.0-cil libempathy-gtk-common libggzcore9 
gconf-editor   
 liblink-grammar4 libconfig-tiny-perl gnome-system-tools 
libgtkmathview0c2a 
 libdatetime-format-mail-perl python-gksu2 dmraid hamster-applet 
gnuchess   
 libgmime2.2a-cil python-nautilusburn gstreamer0.10-gnomevfs 
libnice0   
 binfmt-support python-gnome2-desktop libgnome-vfs2.0-cil 
libgnomeprint2.2-0
 libdatetime-timezone-perl libavahi-ui0 transmission-common 
lxsession-lite  
 libgtkglext1 liblist-moreutils-perl gstreamer0.10-tools lsb-release 
freeglut3  
 libclass-singleton-perl libgnomeprintui2.2-0 
libgupnp-igd-1.0-2
 libmono-system2.0-cil libgdl-1-0 

Re: OpenSSHD Server

2009-10-01 Thread Jesús M. Navarro
Hi, Roman:

On Thursday 01 October 2009 05:29:29 Roman Gelfand wrote:
 Everytime I am connecting to my server via ssh, memory utilizaiton
 appears to be increasing.  Is there memory leak issues with sshd or,
 perhaps, there is a maintenance that needs to be performed? or just
 configuraiton setting?

How do you know that memory is increasing?


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RE: Autoremove appears to want to remove most of Gnome

2009-10-01 Thread Kevin Ross
 From: AG [mailto:computing.acco...@googlemail.com]
 Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 12:14 PM
 
 Hi
 
 Recently when installing a new package I noticed that apt-get seems to
 want to remove most (all?) of my Gnome-related applications, suggesting
 that I run autoremove to do so.
 
 This is the (rather long) list:
 
 The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer
 required:
   libmono-addins-gui0.2-cil mono-2.0-gac dmsetup mesa-utils
 libfreebob0
   libempathy23 planner tomboy ekiga libgsf-gnome-1-114
 python-opengl
   libnm-glib-vpn0 gcalctool gthumb telepathy-salut gnuchess-book
 gnome-nettool
   libgoffice-0-common epiphany-extensions-more
 gnome-games-extra-data
   libgtk-vnc-1.0-0 libgnomepanel2.24-cil libopenraw1
 libboost-regex1.38.0
   hal-cups-utils libdmraid1.0.0.rc15 libglade2.0-cil libtelepathy-glib0
 pkg-config
   libxml-libxml-common-perl libglib2.0-cil
 abiword-plugin-goffice
   libclutter-gtk-0.8-0 obex-data-server libbrasero-media0
 brasero-common
   libdatetime-locale-perl python-gnome2-extras libopenrawgnome1
 gucharmap
   python-evince network-manager gnome-games cheese gdebi
 libparams-validate-perl
   evolution-exchange libgconf2.0-cil libots0
 gnome-bluetooth
   libxml-namespacesupport-perl libspectre1 update-manager-core
 hardinfo
   libclass-accessor-perl gnome-power-manager gnome-cards-data
 gthumb-data
   liferea-data gparted cli-common libglew1.5 ggzcore-bin
 gnome-screensaver
   gnome-themes-more rhythmbox libgtksourceview1.0-0
 libgstfarsight0.10-0
   telepathy-mission-control libnm-util1 gtk2-engines-pixbuf
 gnome-office
   system-config-printer libaiksaurusgtk-1.2-0c2a
 libmissioncontrol-client0
   abiword-common update-manager-gnome evince-common
 abiword
   abiword-plugin-mathview latex-xft-fonts python-gtkglext1
 libwww-curl-perl
   libpcap0.8 libart2.0-cil libjs-jquery libaiksaurus-1.2-0c2a
 gnome-themes
   update-notifier-common seahorse libggzmod4 libterm-readkey-perl
 empathy
   python-apt libempathy-common gdebi-core libempathy-gtk19
 libxml-sax-expat-perl
   gvfs-bin vinagre swfdec-gnome gnumeric-common clive-utils
 update-notifier
   libgnome2.24-cil python-gdl libndesk-dbus1.0-cil
 seahorse-plugins
   libclutter-0.8-0 python-gtksourceview libmono-cairo2.0-cil
 gedit-plugins
   libtelepathy-farsight0 network-manager-gnome python-gtkspell kpartx
 libpcsclite1
   libgnome-bluetooth2 gconf-defaults-service guile-1.8-libs
 wwwconfig-common
   dnsmasq-base link-grammar-dictionaries-en
 python-gtkhtml2
   libuniversal-require-perl gnome-themes-extras libalut0
 libopal3.6.4
   libmono-i18n-west2.0-cil libgssdp-1.0-1 libcryptui0
 libhtml-strip-perl
   libxml-rss-libxml-perl libparted1.8-12
 libmono-addins0.2-cil
   fast-user-switch-applet abiword-help libmono-posix2.0-cil
 gnome-volume-manager
   libgnomeprint2.2-data libkpathsea4 libmono-security2.0-cil
 libt1-5
   gtk2-engines-smooth libaiksaurus-1.2-data libio-stty-perl
 libwv-1.2-3
   python-gnomeprint python-4suite-doc gnome-backgrounds clive
 libgdome2-0
   python-sexy libgtk2.0-cil libxml-libxml-perl mono-gac libnm-glib0
 python-vte
   libggz2 libsub-name-perl abiword-plugin-grammar python-metacity
 libxml-sax-perl
   tsclient rdesktop libdatetime-perl libevince1 libgtksourceview-common
 vino
   evince gnome-games-data python-rsvg gnome-app-install
 libffado1
   libboost-iostreams1.38.0 python-cupsutils ppp libgtkhtml2-0
 libgoffice-0-4
   telepathy-gabble libgoffice-0-8
 libmissioncontrol-server1
   libmono-sharpzip2.84-cil python-mediaprofiles
 libtelepathy2
   libcrypt-twofish-perl libpt2.6.4-plugins
 libmono-corlib2.0-cil
   libgetopt-argvfile-perl libdatetime-format-w3cdtf-perl
 gstreamer0.10-nice
   python-bugbuddy mono-runtime libpt2.6.4 libudev0 liferea
 libxml++2.6-2
   wpasupplicant python-totem-plparser
 libgdome2-cpp-smart0c2a
   libclutter-cairo-0.8-0 libgupnp-1.0-2 libio-pty-perl
 python-cups
   libcrypt-passwdmd5-perl xorg-docs libnl1 dmz-cursor-theme
 python-evolution
   python-4suite-xml gnumeric javascript-common perl-tk
 libberkeleydb-perl rss-glx
   libndesk-dbus-glib1.0-cil libempathy-gtk-common libggzcore9
 gconf-editor
   liblink-grammar4 libconfig-tiny-perl gnome-system-tools
 libgtkmathview0c2a
   libdatetime-format-mail-perl python-gksu2 dmraid hamster-applet
 gnuchess
   libgmime2.2a-cil python-nautilusburn gstreamer0.10-gnomevfs
 libnice0
   binfmt-support python-gnome2-desktop libgnome-vfs2.0-cil
 libgnomeprint2.2-0
   libdatetime-timezone-perl libavahi-ui0 transmission-common
 lxsession-lite
   libgtkglext1 liblist-moreutils-perl gstreamer0.10-tools lsb-release
 freeglut3
   libclass-singleton-perl libgnomeprintui2.2-0
 libgupnp-igd-1.0-2
   libmono-system2.0-cil libgdl-1-0 libgnomeprintui2.2-common
 libexpect-perl
   serpentine libopenobex1 transmission-gtk python-gtop
 sound-juicer
   libgnomecups1.0-1 libgdl-1-common libgoffice-0-8-common
 
 
 I am rather concerned about doing so, and wonder - am I being
 unnecessarily paranoid or should I trust apt-get on 

Re: Autoremove appears to want to remove most of Gnome

2009-10-01 Thread AG

Kevin Ross wrote:

From: AG [mailto:computing.acco...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 12:14 PM

Hi

Recently when installing a new package I noticed that apt-get seems to
want to remove most (all?) of my Gnome-related applications, suggesting
that I run autoremove to do so.

This is the (rather long) list:

The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer
required:
  libmono-addins-gui0.2-cil mono-2.0-gac dmsetup mesa-utils
libfreebob0
  libempathy23 planner tomboy ekiga libgsf-gnome-1-114
python-opengl
  libnm-glib-vpn0 gcalctool gthumb telepathy-salut gnuchess-book
gnome-nettool
  libgoffice-0-common epiphany-extensions-more
gnome-games-extra-data
  libgtk-vnc-1.0-0 libgnomepanel2.24-cil libopenraw1
libboost-regex1.38.0
  hal-cups-utils libdmraid1.0.0.rc15 libglade2.0-cil libtelepathy-glib0
pkg-config
  libxml-libxml-common-perl libglib2.0-cil
abiword-plugin-goffice
  libclutter-gtk-0.8-0 obex-data-server libbrasero-media0
brasero-common
  libdatetime-locale-perl python-gnome2-extras libopenrawgnome1
gucharmap
  python-evince network-manager gnome-games cheese gdebi
libparams-validate-perl
  evolution-exchange libgconf2.0-cil libots0
gnome-bluetooth
  libxml-namespacesupport-perl libspectre1 update-manager-core
hardinfo
  libclass-accessor-perl gnome-power-manager gnome-cards-data
gthumb-data
  liferea-data gparted cli-common libglew1.5 ggzcore-bin
gnome-screensaver
  gnome-themes-more rhythmbox libgtksourceview1.0-0
libgstfarsight0.10-0
  telepathy-mission-control libnm-util1 gtk2-engines-pixbuf
gnome-office
  system-config-printer libaiksaurusgtk-1.2-0c2a
libmissioncontrol-client0
  abiword-common update-manager-gnome evince-common
abiword
  abiword-plugin-mathview latex-xft-fonts python-gtkglext1
libwww-curl-perl
  libpcap0.8 libart2.0-cil libjs-jquery libaiksaurus-1.2-0c2a
gnome-themes
  update-notifier-common seahorse libggzmod4 libterm-readkey-perl
empathy
  python-apt libempathy-common gdebi-core libempathy-gtk19
libxml-sax-expat-perl
  gvfs-bin vinagre swfdec-gnome gnumeric-common clive-utils
update-notifier
  libgnome2.24-cil python-gdl libndesk-dbus1.0-cil
seahorse-plugins
  libclutter-0.8-0 python-gtksourceview libmono-cairo2.0-cil
gedit-plugins
  libtelepathy-farsight0 network-manager-gnome python-gtkspell kpartx
libpcsclite1
  libgnome-bluetooth2 gconf-defaults-service guile-1.8-libs
wwwconfig-common
  dnsmasq-base link-grammar-dictionaries-en
python-gtkhtml2
  libuniversal-require-perl gnome-themes-extras libalut0
libopal3.6.4
  libmono-i18n-west2.0-cil libgssdp-1.0-1 libcryptui0
libhtml-strip-perl
  libxml-rss-libxml-perl libparted1.8-12
libmono-addins0.2-cil
  fast-user-switch-applet abiword-help libmono-posix2.0-cil
gnome-volume-manager
  libgnomeprint2.2-data libkpathsea4 libmono-security2.0-cil
libt1-5
  gtk2-engines-smooth libaiksaurus-1.2-data libio-stty-perl
libwv-1.2-3
  python-gnomeprint python-4suite-doc gnome-backgrounds clive
libgdome2-0
  python-sexy libgtk2.0-cil libxml-libxml-perl mono-gac libnm-glib0
python-vte
  libggz2 libsub-name-perl abiword-plugin-grammar python-metacity
libxml-sax-perl
  tsclient rdesktop libdatetime-perl libevince1 libgtksourceview-common
vino
  evince gnome-games-data python-rsvg gnome-app-install
libffado1
  libboost-iostreams1.38.0 python-cupsutils ppp libgtkhtml2-0
libgoffice-0-4
  telepathy-gabble libgoffice-0-8
libmissioncontrol-server1
  libmono-sharpzip2.84-cil python-mediaprofiles
libtelepathy2
  libcrypt-twofish-perl libpt2.6.4-plugins
libmono-corlib2.0-cil
  libgetopt-argvfile-perl libdatetime-format-w3cdtf-perl
gstreamer0.10-nice
  python-bugbuddy mono-runtime libpt2.6.4 libudev0 liferea
libxml++2.6-2
  wpasupplicant python-totem-plparser
libgdome2-cpp-smart0c2a
  libclutter-cairo-0.8-0 libgupnp-1.0-2 libio-pty-perl
python-cups
  libcrypt-passwdmd5-perl xorg-docs libnl1 dmz-cursor-theme
python-evolution
  python-4suite-xml gnumeric javascript-common perl-tk
libberkeleydb-perl rss-glx
  libndesk-dbus-glib1.0-cil libempathy-gtk-common libggzcore9
gconf-editor
  liblink-grammar4 libconfig-tiny-perl gnome-system-tools
libgtkmathview0c2a
  libdatetime-format-mail-perl python-gksu2 dmraid hamster-applet
gnuchess
  libgmime2.2a-cil python-nautilusburn gstreamer0.10-gnomevfs
libnice0
  binfmt-support python-gnome2-desktop libgnome-vfs2.0-cil
libgnomeprint2.2-0
  libdatetime-timezone-perl libavahi-ui0 transmission-common
lxsession-lite
  libgtkglext1 liblist-moreutils-perl gstreamer0.10-tools lsb-release
freeglut3
  libclass-singleton-perl libgnomeprintui2.2-0
libgupnp-igd-1.0-2
  libmono-system2.0-cil libgdl-1-0 libgnomeprintui2.2-common
libexpect-perl
  serpentine libopenobex1 transmission-gtk python-gtop
sound-juicer
  libgnomecups1.0-1 libgdl-1-common libgoffice-0-8-common


I am rather concerned about doing so, and wonder - am I being
unnecessarily paranoid or should I trust apt-get on this?

I am running an up-to-date version of Squeeze and Gnome is my preferred
DE.

Thanks for any advice.

AG




Re: Re: free alternative acroread

2009-10-01 Thread Andreas Goesele

IIUC this feature scalestranslates the document so as to minimize the
margin (and hence maximize the size of the printed text, without
cropping).


Yes, that's it.


If that's the case, no I sadly don't know of a Free Software tool that
does that for you.


Sad news.


I would love to see a tool that does this automatically for me
(especially if it can do it for 2-up as well).


Me too :-)


Fundamentally, it
shouldn't be that hard.  IIUC running the PS (or PDF) file through
gs -dSAFER -dNOPAUSE -dBATCH -sDEVICE=bbox should return the needed
info about area actual used by the document, after which it should be
easy to scale/translate/rotate to make it fit on a page of any
given size.  But I never got around to trying it out.


Would be nice, if somebody could take this up ...

Andreas Gösele


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Alternative to korganizer for gnome?

2009-10-01 Thread AG

Hi

Korganizer seems to have given up the ghost: it sits in the system 
notification area on my gnome desktop but cannot be opened by clicking 
on it - so hence I cannot add appointments nor check what might be 
coming up.


Is there an alternative to korganizer for the gnome DE?

TIA

AG


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very large fonts in gtk-gnutella

2009-10-01 Thread steef

hi list,

gtk-gnutella started today unexpected with very  - too - large fonts. is 
there a way to manipulate this phenomenon for which i cannot discover 
any reason??


hth.,

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Re: Another Firefox and sound problem

2009-10-01 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 11:31, Hugh Lawson hlaw...@triad.rr.com wrote:
 Kelly Clowers kelly.clow...@gmail.com writes:


 I don't know about this problem specifically, but I stopped having
 FF/Flash/sound problems when I installed PulseAudio. Of course,
 many people are against PA, often along with most of the other
 useful modern desktop technologies...

 Can you point to a good primer on PA, something that explains how to
 set it up in Lenny?

http://www.pulseaudio.org/wiki/PerfectSetup

Mostly you just need the first part, a lot of the app-specific stuff
is for older versions.


Cheers,
Kelly Clowers


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Re: Alternative to korganizer for gnome?

2009-10-01 Thread Claude Biver
Hi AG,

you may want to try Iceowl.

Cheers,

C.

AG wrote:
 Hi
 
 Korganizer seems to have given up the ghost: it sits in the system
 notification area on my gnome desktop but cannot be opened by clicking
 on it - so hence I cannot add appointments nor check what might be
 coming up.
 
 Is there an alternative to korganizer for the gnome DE?
 
 TIA
 
 AG
 
 


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Re: OpenSSHD Server

2009-10-01 Thread Roman Gelfand
monitoring with top command.


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Re: Alternative to korganizer for gnome?

2009-10-01 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Thu October 1 2009, AG wrote:
 Is there an alternative to korganizer for the gnome DE?

not exactly for gnome, but I run gnome  gdm, but I also have kontact 
installed..

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Re: can exim reject all mail for one recipient?

2009-10-01 Thread Håkon Alstadheim

Girish Kulkarni skrev:

On Wed, 30 Sep 2009, Ric Otte wrote:

I believe it is bad to use procmail to reject mail, ...


Why is that?

You got a link with a good technical explanation in another reply. The 
importance of that info may not be apparent if you are not familiar with 
how email works. Let me try an analogy. Imagine email is just like 
regular mail exept that everything is delivered by the sender in person 
to a local post-office, which runs a truck with the mail to the 
recipient's local post-office. All recipients pick up their mail at 
their local post-office. A mail-server is a post-office. Every time mail 
enters a post-office, it puts a Received line on the envelope, latest 
at the top.


Say you go pick up all your mail and bring it home to sort at the 
kitchen-table. The kitchen-table is procmail. You find junk-mail in the 
pile on your kitchen-table and label it return to sender and bring it 
back to the post-office. On the internet all junk-mail in practice has 
forged sender address, so some innocent soul will get his mail-box 
filled with returns that are actually not from him. The better way to 
deal with junk-mail is to have your local post-office simply refuse any 
mail from dubious commercial mass-mailers. That way innocent by-standers 
are protected, and resources taken by bringing the junk all the way to 
your kitchen-table are saved. If the mail was in fact not junk, the real 
sender will be notified by his own local post-office of the failure, 
because local post-offices will usually notify local customers when 
their truck was unable to deliver. The recipient's post-office can in 
some cases even inspect the contens of the mail WHILE THE DELIVERY VAN 
IS WAITING and say No thanks. This is the stage of delivery postfix 
calls Before-queue, and you want to reject as much as possible at this 
stage, before the mail is put into your P.O.Box. Postfix can also mark 
mail to be filtered, in effect have a clerk go over the mail that is to 
be put into your P.O.Box after the delivery truck has left. At this 
stage postfix can bounce stuff back to the sender (REJECT action), but 
usually it is not advisable to do so. Just let postfix drop it on the 
floor (DISCARD action). I imagine exim has similar options.


P.S: One effective way to send out loads of spam, is to send it to 
non-existant adresses hosted on innocent, but misconfigured, 
mail-servers. This misguided, old-fashioned post-office will then 
proceed to deliver the entire mail back to the sender in its own 
misguided mind, while it actually is helping spread spam by using its 
good name and delivery system to deliver the spam mail to a third party. 
In this day and age incompetence is actually just another name for evil, 
and such old-timers will be summarliy put into a lot of RBL-lists.





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Re: Autoremove appears to want to remove most of Gnome

2009-10-01 Thread Tony Baldwin

From: AG [mailto:computing.acco...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 12:14 PM

Hi

Recently when installing a new package I noticed that apt-get seems to
want to remove most (all?) of my Gnome-related applications, suggesting
that I run autoremove to do so.



Sounds like a good idea, to me.
Then you could install a better wm (not some bloated de), like ion3 or 
dwm or something.


(ducking...)

/tony

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Re: Alternative to korganizer for gnome?

2009-10-01 Thread Tony Baldwin

Claude Biver wrote:

Hi AG,

you may want to try Iceowl.



Evolution would be the default calendar app thingy for gnome, to my 
knowledge.
I just use google calendar and gcalcli, now. (iceowl, afaik, does not 
support the provider extension to get it to work with google 
calendar...at least, not the iceowl in the lenny repos.  On previous ubu 
installs, I have used tbird with the provider ext. and synched it w/ my 
google cal.  I'm not sure if evo works with a google cal...then again, 
you didn't ask about google cal, anyway.)


/tony




Cheers,

C.

AG wrote:

Hi

Korganizer seems to have given up the ghost: it sits in the system
notification area on my gnome desktop but cannot be opened by clicking
on it - so hence I cannot add appointments nor check what might be
coming up.

Is there an alternative to korganizer for the gnome DE?

TIA

AG








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Así también, la lengua es un miembro pequeño,
y se gloría de grandes cosas.
He aquí, un pequeño fuego
¡Cuán grande bosque enciende!


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Re: Alternative to korganizer for gnome?

2009-10-01 Thread S. Fishpaste
On Thu, 01 Oct 2009 21:49:33 -0400, Tony Baldwin in gmane.linux.debian.user 
wrote:
 Claude Biver wrote:
 Hi AG,
 
 you may want to try Iceowl.


 Evolution would be the default calendar app thingy for gnome, to my 
 knowledge.
 I just use google calendar and gcalcli, now. (iceowl, afaik, does not 
 support the provider extension to get it to work with google 
 calendar...at least, not the iceowl in the lenny repos.  On previous ubu 
 installs, I have used tbird with the provider ext. and synched it w/ my 
 google cal.  I'm not sure if evo works with a google cal...then again, 
 you didn't ask about google cal, anyway.)

Yes Evolution (at least in Testing/Unstable) works with Google web services.
There's a menu for Google when setting up e-mail/calendar. That alone is
was the clincher for me to switch to it from Outlook 2007. I'm quite
impressed with Evolution.


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Re: Alternative to korganizer for gnome?

2009-10-01 Thread David Purton
On Fri, Oct 02, 2009 at 12:00:41AM -0400, S. Fishpaste wrote:
 Yes Evolution (at least in Testing/Unstable) works with Google web services.
 There's a menu for Google when setting up e-mail/calendar. That alone is
 was the clincher for me to switch to it from Outlook 2007. I'm quite
 impressed with Evolution.

This moves the thread in a slightly different direction, but one of the
things that I haven't figured out with Evolution is how to work with
remote calendars when I am offline.

I run my calendar on a remote caldav server and connect to it using
Evolution. I have the option Copy calendar contents locally for offline
operation ticked, but this doesn't seem to make any difference. If I am
not connected to the internet, I can't work with my calendar. Ideally,
I'd like to be able to see my events and add to them when I'm offline,
then have evolution synchronise when I reconnect to the net.

Does anyone hae a solution to this?


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Re: Processen actief na uitloggen Gnome

2009-10-01 Thread Paul van der Vlis
Matijs van Zuijlen schreef:
 Paul van der Vlis wrote:
 Het valt me op dat soms processen van een user actief blijven na
 uitloggen in Lenny. Ik zie dit vooral bij bonobo-activation-server na
 het afsluiten van een Gnome sessie, dit gebeurd in ongeveer 50% van de
 gevallen, ook als ik niets heb gedaan in Gnome.
 
 Ja, dit is heel gebruikelijk. Het zijn (meestal) server-achtige processen.
 
 Verder hoor ik dat dit helemaal mis gaat als je later weer inlogt als
 die user vanaf een andere machine (/home via NFS).
 
 Hier heb ik geen ervaring mee.
 
 Kent iemand dit probleem, of misschien een oplossing?
 
 Ja dus. Ik zie het vooral als ik weer eens uitlog na een upgrade, als ik de
 nieuwe versies van de programma's en libraries wil laden. Ik schiet die
 overgebleven processen dan gewoon af, maar dat is voor het NFS-probleem dan 
 weer
 geen oplossing.
 
 Op http://projects.gnome.org/gconf/ staat een en ander over dit probleem. Het
 komt er op neer dat gconfd locks maakt om te zorgen dat er maar een van 
 draait.

Op zich heb ik daar natuurlijk geen problemen mee, maar ik zie geen
redenen om deze processen te laten draaien als de gebruiker is uitgelogt
en niets meer heeft draaien.

Het lijkt er echter op, dat sommige programma's niet altijd netjes
sluiten en dat daardoor ook de serverprocessen blijven draaien,
firefox-bin is een voorbeeld.

 gconfd is dan weer een van die processen die overblijven als de gebruiker
 uitlogt. Gelukkig staat er ook dit:
 
 How do I log in from two machines at once?
 
 You can only have one gconfd accessing a given configuration source at the 
 same
 time. This means you need to share the same gconfd between the two machines.
 
 This Just Works, with two common catches:
 
 * You have a firewall between the machines.
 * For security reasons, remote CORBA connections are normally disabled by
 default.
 
 To enable remote CORBA connections, add the line ORBIIOPIPv4=1 to 
 /etc/orbitrc
 and then restart gconfd using gconftool-2 --shutdown.
 
 Is het proberen waard, lijkt me.

Ter info:

Het probleem is 'opgelost' (overigens niet door mij) door vanuit
/etc/gdm/PostSession/Default een script aan te roepen wat processen
killt die soms problemen geven. Een extra file toevoegen in de directory
/etc/gdm/PostSession/ bleek overigens niet te werken.

Groet,
Paul.



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