Re: php cgi

[Didar Hossain]

On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 11:26 AM, Umarzuki Mochlis  wrote:
>
>
> 2009/10/11 Thierry Chatelet 
>>
>> On Sunday 11 October 2009 07:36:43 Umarzuki Mochlis wrote:
>> > I want to know how to set up a debian server capable of running php cgi
>> > script and how to create and run cgi script. Where can I find articles
>> > on
>> > that?
>> > I had search for a few hours but still could not find a good one.
>> >
>>
>> Hi,
>> Have a look at wikipedia. It gives lot of links, and even explanation why
>> not
>> to use cgi.
>> Thierry
>>
> thanks for that info but that's what I had done since yesterday.
> What I want to find is how to use view linux server's information (ie.
> network interface IP) on a web browser and if there's any other way to do it
> with php, please share it with me.

I do not know of any web application which gives you a browser interface to view
linux system information, someone else could update on that*. However, writing
such a script is possible in PHP although is not a trivial exercise if
you one is not
experienced with Linux commands and some shell scripting

*There is something called `webmin' though I would not recommend it to most
people. It is a Perl application.

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Re: php cgi

[Umarzuki Mochlis]

2009/10/11 Thierry Chatelet 

> On Sunday 11 October 2009 07:36:43 Umarzuki Mochlis wrote:
> > I want to know how to set up a debian server capable of running php cgi
> > script and how to create and run cgi script. Where can I find articles on
> > that?
> > I had search for a few hours but still could not find a good one.
> >
>
> Hi,
> Have a look at wikipedia. It gives lot of links, and even explanation why
> not
> to use cgi.
> Thierry
>
> thanks for that info but that's what I had done since yesterday.
What I want to find is how to use view linux server's information (ie.
network interface IP) on a web browser and if there's any other way to do it
with php, please share it with me.


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Re: php cgi

[Thierry Chatelet]

On Sunday 11 October 2009 07:36:43 Umarzuki Mochlis wrote:
> I want to know how to set up a debian server capable of running php cgi
> script and how to create and run cgi script. Where can I find articles on
> that?
> I had search for a few hours but still could not find a good one.
> 

Hi,
Have a look at wikipedia. It gives lot of links, and even explanation why not 
to use cgi.
Thierry


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Libata in Debian GNU/Linux Lenny

[Stan Hoeppner]

Kelly Clowers put forth on 10/10/2009 10:45 PM:

> You know you can find the module in use with lsmod, right?
> And you can blacklist modules to prevent the wrong one
> from being used.

Sure.  But why work backwards?

I know exactly what hardware I have, and I'd rather put my drivers in
the kernel, for a variety of reasons.  The aforementioned was just one.
 Simplicity is another.  I boot with LILO and without initramfs, which
is required for using modules.  My 2.6.31.1 kernel image is only 1.1MB
including all necessary drivers, and without using modules.  That's a
pretty tight 2.6.x kernel.

For _me_, the module method is inefficient, somewhat bloated, and
unnecessary.  I don't run desktop Debian, only servers, and I optimize
the !...@#$ out of them.  I have no need to dynamically unload drivers
while the system is running, ala USB thumb drives et al.

This is one of the great things about Linux and Debian.  You can do with
it exactly what you want, even if others disagree and think you're !...@#$
for doing so.

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php cgi

[Umarzuki Mochlis]

I want to know how to set up a debian server capable of running php cgi
script and how to create and run cgi script. Where can I find articles on
that?
I had search for a few hours but still could not find a good one.

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Re: Libata in Debian GNU/Linux Lenny

[Kelly Clowers]

On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 17:54, Daniel Bareiro  wrote:
> Hi all!
>
> I'm using Debian GNU/Linux Lenny with linux-image-2.6.26-2-amd64 stock
> kernel installed from a binary image from Debian repositories.
>
> In this case the disks are seen like hdX but using kernel 2.6.31.2
> compiled by myself with the sources of kernel.org the disks are seen
> like sdX. I consider that this difference is because with 2.6.31.2
> libata is being used whereas in 2.6.26 it is disabled. Is it possible?
>
> Reviewing the compilation options of the stock kernel and comparing them
> with those of kernel 2.6.31.2 I see that the following options are the
> same in both cases:
>
> CONFIG_ATA=m
> CONFIG_ATA_PIIX=m
> CONFIG_ATA_GENERIC=m
> CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SD=m
> CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SR=m
> CONFIG_IDE=m
>

It might be that libata was not used for your specific IDE
chipset in 2.6.26, but libata in general was definitely not
disabled.

You can find your IDE chipset with lspci -v and then look
for "IDE interface" or "SATA controller" or similar.


On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 18:31, Stan Hoeppner  wrote:
>
> Are your disks IDE or SATA?  Sure it's possible if you're using disk
> driver modules.  Compiling the exact driver module you want used into
> the kernel eliminates all doubt.  Thus, one of the reasons I compile
> kernels the way I do.  Eliminates the guesswork.

You know you can find the module in use with lsmod, right?
And you can blacklist modules to prevent the wrong one
from being used.


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Re: Iceape video problem

[Kelly Clowers]

On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 13:50, Thomas H. George  wrote:
>
> Ah-ha! Found the difference.  The listing for Shockwave Flash is
> identical to that shown below except for the entry for the File Name:
>
> For the system that doen't play videos: npwrapper.libflashplayer.so
>
> For the system that plays videos: libflashplayer.so
>
> I deleted all the npwrapper entries in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins and
> added a symbolic link to /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so.
> Now the iceape browser plays youtube videos.  All OK.

That would definitely cause a problem. At least it is working now.

> iceape is apparently different from iceweasel - I cannot find any
> about:config.

Iceape is SeaMonkey is Mozilla. Mozilla had about:config before
Firefox even existed.


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Re: How much RAM can debian support?

[Marc Shapiro]

Andrew Sackville-West wrote:

On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 12:50:41PM +0200, Magnus Pedersen wrote:

Alex Samad wrote:


[...]

God can you remember when 16M used to be a lot ...

My first one, a commedore vic-20, I think I was 8 years old and it was my 
first real love...

1MHz CPU I think is was a 6502
5K RAM


but IIRC, you could only access 3.5 as the other 1.5 was taken up by
the system. And I could outtype my modem (300 baud) with one hand.


I remember my first 300 baud modem.  And downloading e-mail from 
Compuserve with a script that would connect, download and disconnect so 
as not to spend any more time actually connected (at per minute charges) 
than was absolutely necessary.


Maybe those weren't the "Good, old days."

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acpid not logging - or doing other things

[Matthew Smith]

Hi folks

I'm trying to get this machine running Lenny to suspend to disc when I 
press the power button.


The problem that I'm having is that modifying /etc/acpi/powerbtn.sh or 
/etc/acpi/powerbtn-acpi-support.sh seems to have no effect.  After 
restarting acpid, pressing the button has no effect at all - neither the 
one in the original version of the file (do a shutdown) nor mine.


Same issue with the lid.

Thought I'd have a look in /var/log to see what events are being picked 
up, but can find no acpi events being logged in either messages, syslog, 
daemon.log, kern.log or appearing in dmesg, for that matter.


I know that I must have some acpi support here as I'm able to look at my 
battery info through /proc/acpi/battery/BAT1/state.


If it's relevant, I'm running the 2.6.30-bpo.1-amd64, which I need for 
wlan support.


Ideas?

Cheers

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Re: Libata in Debian GNU/Linux Lenny

[Stan Hoeppner]

Daniel Bareiro put forth on 10/10/2009 7:54 PM:
> Hi all!
> 
> I'm using Debian GNU/Linux Lenny with linux-image-2.6.26-2-amd64 stock
> kernel installed from a binary image from Debian repositories.
> 
> In this case the disks are seen like hdX but using kernel 2.6.31.2
> compiled by myself with the sources of kernel.org the disks are seen
> like sdX. I consider that this difference is because with 2.6.31.2
> libata is being used whereas in 2.6.26 it is disabled. Is it possible?

If this helps your troubleshooting any...

Lenny 5.0, self compiled kernel, source tarball from kernel.org, no
module support, stripped to the bone, Intel PIIX IDE and e100: Intel(R)
PRO/100 compiled into the kernel, again, module support disabled in
menuconfig.  Built 7 days ago.

greer:/# uname -a
Linux greer 2.6.31.1 #1 SMP Sat Oct 3 10:43:14 CDT 2009 i686 GNU/Linux

greer:/# dmesg
..
Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver
piix :00:07.1: IDE controller (0x8086:0x7111 rev 0x01)
piix :00:07.1: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
ide: disallowing DMA for hda
ide: disallowing DMA for hdb
ide0: BM-DMA at 0xf000-0xf007
ide1: BM-DMA at 0xf008-0xf00f
Probing IDE interface ide0...
hda: ST340823A, ATA DISK drive
hda: host max PIO4 wanted PIO255(auto-tune) selected PIO4
hda: host max PIO4 wanted PIO255(auto-tune) selected PIO4
Probing IDE interface ide1...
ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15
ide-gd driver 1.18
hda: max request size: 128KiB
hda: 78165360 sectors (40020 MB) w/512KiB Cache, CHS=65535/16/63
hda: cache flushes not supported
 hda: hda1 hda2 hda3

I disable DMA at boot as the Seagate disk is flaky.  I'm posting merely
to show IDE device naming on a hand built 2.6.31.1 kernel with a built
in PIIX driver.

Are your disks IDE or SATA?  Sure it's possible if you're using disk
driver modules.  Compiling the exact driver module you want used into
the kernel eliminates all doubt.  Thus, one of the reasons I compile
kernels the way I do.  Eliminates the guesswork.

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Libata in Debian GNU/Linux Lenny

[Daniel Bareiro]

Hi all!

I'm using Debian GNU/Linux Lenny with linux-image-2.6.26-2-amd64 stock
kernel installed from a binary image from Debian repositories.

In this case the disks are seen like hdX but using kernel 2.6.31.2
compiled by myself with the sources of kernel.org the disks are seen
like sdX. I consider that this difference is because with 2.6.31.2
libata is being used whereas in 2.6.26 it is disabled. Is it possible?

Reviewing the compilation options of the stock kernel and comparing them
with those of kernel 2.6.31.2 I see that the following options are the
same in both cases:

CONFIG_ATA=m
CONFIG_ATA_PIIX=m
CONFIG_ATA_GENERIC=m
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SD=m
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SR=m
CONFIG_IDE=m

Is there some other compilation option that makes the difference?

Thanks in advance for your reply.

Regards,
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Re: Could you recommend CD/DVD writer program?

[David Fox]

On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 7:33 AM, J.Hwan.Kim  wrote:
> Hi, everyone
>
> Could you recommend CD/DVD writer program except gnomebaker ?
>
> Thanks in advance.

k3b works well for easily transferring a set of files over to a CD, or
to put a bunch of mp3s or what have you and convert them on the fly to
CD format.

But for writing DVDs, mostly images or output of other conversion
programs (mpeg2) I stick to growisofs with a wrapper sometimes, or
straight from the command line. In my experience, I've had better
success with growisofs early on.



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Re: Could you recommend CD/DVD writer program?

[Alex Samad]

On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 03:38:09PM -0400, JoeHill wrote:
> randall wrote: 
> 
> > it might be more productive to send a polite request to change this
> > default behavior to the list maintainer instead of some other remarks
> > made in this thread.
> 
> I suppose that was indirectly aimed at me...
> 
> Seriously, I asked politely for the guy to not CC me, and he _deliberately_
> ignored my request. He actually looked at what I asked him to do, thought 
> 'no',
> and did it anyway.
> 
> I deal with this kind of crap all day from a 5 year old, I really don't need 
> it

easy make him use windows when he gives you crap that should sort him
out quick smart.  My 2 yo has decide to take her nappies off before she
gets to the toilet - luckly we have had not trails to follow 

> from someone who is presumably an adult who can do up his own goddamned pants.
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Re: Upgrade from Lenny to Squeeze: X failed.

[Daniel Burrows]

On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 11:24:02AM -0500, Chris  was 
heard to say:
> The upgrade seemed to go well however, on reboot it failed to go into X.
> The suspected video culprit is nVidia Corporation GeForce 8400 GS (rev
> a1).

  What's in the X server log? (usually /var/log/Xorg.0.log)

  Daniel


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Re: Ubuntu noninteractive aptitude mysql install

[Daniel Burrows]

On Tue, Oct 06, 2009 at 09:42:57AM -0700, Chad Woolley 
 was heard to say:
> When scripting an aptitude install of mysql on ubuntu, how can I avoid
> blocking at aptitude's interactive root password prompt?

  aptitude doesn't prompt for a root password at the command line.

> I tried the following, but it doesn't work on when I run it on a clean
> EC2 image:
> 
> http://github.com/thewoolleyman/rails/blob/master/ci/setup_rails_dependencies.rb#L26
> 
> Maddeningly, it works fine when I immediately do the same thing again.

  You're becoming root like this:

$ run "sudo su -c 'echo \"#{pw_file}\" > /var/cache/debconf/passwords.dat'"

  It sounds like you're getting a prompt from sudo?

  Daniel


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Looking for simple s2disk implementation

[Matthew Smith]

Hi Folks

I am in the process of setting up Leny on a Sony Vaio VGN-CS110E.  So 
far, so good, although I've had to use a kernel from backports to get 
the Wifi going.  This has actually been my all-time easiest Linux on a 
laptop installation.


Much to my delight, I have found that s2disk just works.  If I invoke 
s2disk from the command line (as root,) it suspends fine.  Shut the lid. 
 Open the lid again and it resumes.


The only minor issue is that the wireless network interface *thinks* 
that it is working after a resume, but isn't.  I am, therefore, writing 
a bit of Perl to look at the state of the network interfaces, record 
that state, down the interfaces and then call s2disk.


What I can't figure out how to do is how to get a script to run after 
resume.  I've looked at the hibernate system but it appear overly 
complex for what I want and besides, I have a bash allergy ;-)


The man pages for s2disk/resume the uswsusp.conf are not forthcoming on 
how to execute something after resume has done it's business.


Ideas, anyone?

Cheers

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Re: D-Link's Shareport USB Utility

[Stan Hoeppner]

Merciadri Luca put forth on 10/10/2009 2:40 PM:
> Merciadri Luca  writes:
> 
> I receive the same answer with
> #smbclient -L //192.168.0.1
> 
> The problem with non-noname devices is that their internal config is
> often misunderstood, or simply unknown...

Would you please backup to the very beginning and tell us what you're
trying to accomplish?  Here's what I'm reading:

You're trying to hook up a USB HDD correct?  Most laptops and desktops
have a gazillion USB ports on them these days.  Why are you hell bent on
connecting the HDD to the el cheapo DLink router instead of directly to
your Debian PC?  ESPECIALLY given the fact that DLink obviously doesn't
offer Linux support for your particular router.

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Re: Could you recommend CD/DVD writer program?

[green]

Tim Beauregard wrote at 2009-10-10 14:27 -0500:
> My choice is cdrdao, as it can identify burn-proof technology without
> switches.

Surely wodim does too?  And I don't see mention of 'burn-proof' in cdrdao(1) 
(v1:1.2.2-16).


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Re: D-Link's Shareport USB Utility

[Stan Hoeppner]

Merciadri Luca put forth on 10/10/2009 7:44 AM:
> Stan Hoeppner  writes:
> 
>> A better question is why aren't you using ethernet instead of USB?  Use
>> the right tool for the job.
> I think you misunderstood what I wanted. I have no Ethernet capability
> on my HDDs and it is still too expensive to use this solution.

Obviously I misunderstood.  Maybe you can give us a quick explanation of
exactly what "DLink SharePort" is/does; what it is for.  I was under the
impression you were merely trying to connect (network) your Debian box
to the router via USB instead of via ethernet.  There was no mention of
a hard disk drive in your original post.  I think you assumed everyone
here knows what DLink's "SharePort" is--but we don't.

So, now we've gone from "Win Problem" to "can't connect to my HDD".  Two
very different issues.

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Re: Upgrade from Lenny to Squeeze: X failed.

[Chris]

On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 11:24:02 -0500
Chris  wrote:

> Greetings and happy weekend folks,
> 
> I previously tried upgrading from Lenny to squeeze:
> 
> 1. Edit /etc/apt/sources.list to reflect squeeze
> 
> 2. aptitude update
> 
> 3. aptitude install apt dpkg aptitude
> 
> 4. aptitude full-upgrade
> 
> 
> The upgrade seemed to go well however, on reboot it failed to go into
> X. The suspected video culprit is nVidia Corporation GeForce 8400 GS
> (rev a1).
> 
> I have since reinstalled but would still prefer Squeeze. I would
> appreciate and advice on how to proceed. I do apologize for the lack
> of log entries and the vagueness of the question.
> 
> 


Nix this thread - this upgrade went just fine.

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Re: Sound - handmade how?

[S. Fishpaste]

On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 23:10:56 -0700, Kelly Clowers in gmane.linux.debian.user 
wrote:


Kelly, just wanted to say great write-up. Everything I wanted to know about
Linux Audio, was succinctly covered!


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Re: Iceape video problem

[Thomas H. George]

On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 03:20:49PM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 09, 2009 at 13:57:41 -0400, Thomas H. George wrote:
> > On Fri, Oct 09, 2009 at 02:19:41PM -0300, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote:
> > > On Sex, 09 Out 2009, "Thomas H. George" wrote:
> > > >I have two computers with uptodate Squeeze sytems including gdm, icewm
> > > >and the iceape suite.  In one system the iceape browser can play youtube
> > > >videos, in the other system cannot.
> > > >
> > > >The system that cannot play youtube videos has installed same plugins
> > > >for iceape as the system which can play the videos.  The system that
> > > >cannot play youtube videos has three additional plugins installed -
> > > >Adobe Reader 9.1, Java plugin 1.6.0-14 and Java plugin 1.6.0-16.
> 
> [...]
> 
> > > Java is not involved in playing Youtube videos.
> > > 
> > > >The problem does not seem to be with gdm and icewm as it is possible to
> > > >open a terminal window and play a video with the command totem test.flv.
> > > 
> > > Neither are stand-alone video players.
> > > 
> > > >I have beat my head against this problem for two days now and still have
> > > >no clue as to the difference between the two systems.
> > > >
> > > >Any suggests as to where to look would be greatly appreciated.
> > > 
> > > You need the flash plugin. Install the flashplugin-nonfree package
> > > and it should work.
> > > 
> > flashplugin-nonfree is already the newest verion.
> 
> I think you should check if iceape actually uses the correct plugin (and
> not some outdated file that was left behind during an earlier attempt to
> get flash working, for example).
> 
> Here is how to do that (for iceweasel, I hope it also works for iceape):

Ah-ha! Found the difference.  The listing for Shockwave Flash is
identical to that shown below except for the entry for the File Name:

For the system that doen't play videos: npwrapper.libflashplayer.so

For the system that plays videos: libflashplayer.so

I deleted all the npwrapper entries in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins and
added a symbolic link to /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so.
Now the iceape browser plays youtube videos.  All OK.


iceape is apparently different from iceweasel - I cannot find any
about:config.  In preferences/helper applications there is a box "Always
use the Netscape Plug-In Finder Service (PFS) to get plugins"  This box
has always been checked.  In the top menu bar the pull down from Help
includes an item About Plug-ins.  


> Go to "about:config", put "plugin" into the filter box and find the
> setting called "plugin.expose_full_path". Change it to "true"
> (right-click on the setting and choose "Toggle"). The "about:plugin"
> page will now show you the full paths to all the plugin files that
> iceweasel uses. Check the entry for "Shockwave Flash"; for comparison,
> here is what I have on my Sid system:
> 
> Shockwave Flash
>   File name: /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so
>   Shockwave Flash 10.0 r32
> 
> MIME Type | Description | Suffixes | Enabled
> application/x-shockwave-flash | Shockwave Flash | swf  | Yes
> application/futuresplash  | FutureSplash Player | spl  | Yes
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Re: Drupal 6.13 warning: call_user_func_array() First argument is expected to be a valid callback

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David Christensen wrote:
warning: call_user_func_array() [function.call-user-func-array]: 
First argument is expected to be a valid callback, 'imce_access' was 
given in /home/jdenha09/drupal-6.13/includes/menu.inc on line 452.


I found and fixed a couple of issues, and the problems went away:

1.  I was missing some modules on the development server.  So, I added them.

2.  I must have messed with the Garland theme colors on the production 
server, which created a CSS style sheet in the file system that was 
missing on the development server.  So, I reset the colors to default.



HTH,

David


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Re: How much RAM can debian support?

[Andrew Sackville-West]

On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 12:50:41PM +0200, Magnus Pedersen wrote:
> Alex Samad wrote:
> 
[...]
> > God can you remember when 16M used to be a lot ...
> > 
> My first one, a commedore vic-20, I think I was 8 years old and it was my 
> first real love...
> 1MHz CPU I think is was a 6502
> 5K RAM

but IIRC, you could only access 3.5 as the other 1.5 was taken up by
the system. And I could outtype my modem (300 baud) with one hand.

Oh the luxury of the upgrade to the C-64. I mean, you could really
stretch out on that thing!

oh and get off of my lawn!

;-)

A


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Re: bash question

[Alex Samad]

On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 07:45:14AM -0400, Antonio Perez wrote:
> Alex Samad wrote:
> 
> > Hi, i have this:
> 
> > RDSCHM="--remote-schema 'ssh -i /root/.ssh/id_backup -C  %s rdiff-backup 
> > --server'"
> 
> > and trying this
> > 
> > rdiff-backup \
> > $RDSCHM \
> > $RDRM \
> > "$DEST/"
> 
> > with sh -x i get this
>  
> > + rdiff-backup --remote-schema ''\''ssh' -i /root/.ssh/id_backup -C %s 
> > rdiff-backup '--server'\''' --remove-older-than '"10B"' --force 
> > max::/backups/test/system/
> 
> I am pretty sure you are using bash as the sh link, do 'ls -la /bin/sh' to 
> get: /bin/sh --> /bin/bash
> If it were dash the responses would be different.

true - I could have sworn I had installed the latest dash package which
moves sh to dash
> 
> Testing: set up a "test" file with:
> #!/bin/sh
> RDSCHM="--remote-schema 'ssh -i /root/.ssh/id_backup -C %s 
> rdiff-backup --server'"
> echo $RDSCHM
> echo "$RDSCHM"
> with: bash -x test, I get:
> + RDSCHM='--remote-schema '\''ssh -i /root/.ssh/id_backup -C %s 
> rdiff-backup --server'\'''
> + echo --remote-schema ''\''ssh' -i /root/.ssh/id_backup 
> $'-C\302\240%s' 'rdiff-backup --server'\'''
> --remote-schema 'ssh -i /root/.ssh/id_backup -C %s rdiff-backup 
> --server'
> + echo '--remote-schema '\''ssh -i /root/.ssh/id_backup -C %s 
> rdiff-backup --server'\'''
> --remote-schema 'ssh -i /root/.ssh/id_backup -C %s rdiff-backup 
> --server'
> 
> with: dash -x test, I get:
> + RDSCHM=--remote-schema 'ssh -i /root/.ssh/id_backup -C %s 
> rdiff-backup --server'
> + echo --remote-schema 'ssh -i /root/.ssh/id_backup -C %s 
> rdiff-backup --server'
> --remote-schema 'ssh -i /root/.ssh/id_backup -C %s rdiff-backup 
> --server'
> + echo --remote-schema 'ssh -i /root/.ssh/id_backup -C %s 
> rdiff-backup --server'
> --remote-schema 'ssh -i /root/.ssh/id_backup -C %s rdiff-backup 
> --server'
> 
> with dash there is no «  ''\''ssh'  »
> 
> Also, did you notice the difference between a command on an unquoted variable 
> and a quoted one?
> + echo --remote-schema ''\''ssh' -i /root/.ssh/id_backup 
> $'-C\302\240%s' 'rdiff-backup --server'\'''
> + echo '--remote-schema '\''ssh -i /root/.ssh/id_backup -C %s 
> rdiff-backup --server'\'''
> 
> Conclusion: Quoting the variable will solve your problem, as this:
> rdiff-backup \
>   "$RDSCHM" \
>   "$RDRM" \
>   "$DEST/"

I tried this but then rdiff-backup tried to execute the whole variable
as 1 command and not such command ssh\ -i\ /roo.

> 
> 
> > the ''\''ssh' is the confusing bit it is seperate out the ssh and the -i.
> 
> Yes, on a bash shell, but only while quoting with -x, the actual command does 
> the right thing.
> 
> > what can I do to prevent this.
> 
> Just put « $RDSCHM »  inside quotes as this: « "$RDSCHM" »
> 
> > My reading has lead me to IFS variable
> > but I don't want to start playing with this yet ! I think I am just
> > missing something. Hopefully the ml eyes will be able to see what i
> > can't
> 
> No need to
> 
> > oh and its using dash well sh
> 
> It does not really matter which shell it is, when the issue is about correct 
> quoting of variables.

Thanks I will investigate more

> 



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Re: How much RAM can debian support?

[Alex Samad]

On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 08:40:42PM +0200, Micha Feigin wrote:
> On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 10:51:40 +0100
> Kelly Harding  wrote:
> 
> > 2009/10/9 Dean Chester :

[snip]

> 
> I've seen machines going to the area of 160GB, not regular consumer ones 
> though
> Nehalem usually has 6 slots (3 channels, 2 slots per channel) and if you put 
> in
> 8gb sticks you can go up to 48gb on a run of the mill board

we have a HP DL785 g5 at work with 256G of main memory - running deb
amd64

at the cost though definitely not a consumer grade box 


> 
> Won't come cheap though ... especially since with so much memory you usually 
> should opt for ecc
> http://www.amazon.com/Kingston-Memory-DIMM-240-pin-registered/dp/B0028R3NC0/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&s=pc&qid=1255199747&sr=1-9
> 
> > Even though a motherboard can support upto 16Gb+ of ram, with most
> > only having 4 slots, it'd be rather difficult/expensive to fill it
> > so 8Gb is the realistic limit in terms of cost.
> > 
> > Kelly
> > 
> > 
> 
> 



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Re: D-Link's Shareport USB Utility

[Merciadri Luca]

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I receive the same answer with
#smbclient -L //192.168.0.1

The problem with non-noname devices is that their internal config is
often misunderstood, or simply unknown...

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Re: Could you recommend CD/DVD writer program?

[JoeHill]

randall wrote: 

> it might be more productive to send a polite request to change this
> default behavior to the list maintainer instead of some other remarks
> made in this thread.

I suppose that was indirectly aimed at me...

Seriously, I asked politely for the guy to not CC me, and he _deliberately_
ignored my request. He actually looked at what I asked him to do, thought 'no',
and did it anyway.

I deal with this kind of crap all day from a 5 year old, I really don't need it
from someone who is presumably an adult who can do up his own goddamned pants.

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Fwd: Configure wifi access / Free.Fr / WPA (TKIP/AES)

[Kelly Clowers]

On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 05:03, Mathieu Malaterre
 wrote:
> Hi there,
>
>  I am trying a very simple task: connect to my wifi using a my debian box.
>  Setup: My wifi box is made by Free.Fr (French ADSL provider). I did
> setup the SSID to be foobar, no broadcast, and security "WPA
> (TKIP+AES)". I hit generate and it gives me a password. I can connect
> using WinXP no problem.
>
>  Now if I try to connect with my debian box, I click on the
> network-manager and select 'Connect to Hidden Network', set security
> to 'WPA/WPA2 Personal' and copy paste the password as I would do on
> winxp. It does not connect at all.
>  I tried then:
> http://wiki.debian.org/Manual-Howto#AuthenticatewithwpausingPSKTKIP.
> It still does not work and I get (*). What am I doing wrong ? What are
> the tool to understand what is going on wrong ? Should I select
> another type of security ?

Have you tried:
wpa-driver nl80211

I think wpasupplicant defaults to wext, but as the Intel 4965 is a mac80211-
using card, it should be using the new netlink/cfg80211 interface.

Also, read /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.modes.gz


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Re: Could you recommend CD/DVD writer program?

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re: How much RAM can debian support?

[Micha Feigin]

On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 10:51:40 +0100
Kelly Harding  wrote:

> 2009/10/9 Dean Chester :
> > Hi
> > I'm moving to a Macbook soon(staying with debian tho:p) and apple keep
> > advertising that snow leopard can support 16 exobytes of RAM. Im just
> > wondering how much can 64-bit debian support?
> > Thanks in advance
> > Dean
> >
> 
> In theory at least Debian will support the limits of the kernel
> version it uses. So it is a bit subjective really.
> 
> IIRC, only the latest X58 chipsets (for desktop consumer PCs) support
> upto either 16Gb or 32Gb of RAM (forget which),
> and the P3x chipsets only support upto 8Gb, with the P45 supporting
> upto 16Gb. IIRC Intel laptop chipsets are derived from
> their desktop counterparts to some extent.
> 

I've seen machines going to the area of 160GB, not regular consumer ones though
Nehalem usually has 6 slots (3 channels, 2 slots per channel) and if you put in
8gb sticks you can go up to 48gb on a run of the mill board

Won't come cheap though ... especially since with so much memory you usually 
should opt for ecc
http://www.amazon.com/Kingston-Memory-DIMM-240-pin-registered/dp/B0028R3NC0/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&s=pc&qid=1255199747&sr=1-9

> Even though a motherboard can support upto 16Gb+ of ram, with most
> only having 4 slots, it'd be rather difficult/expensive to fill it
> so 8Gb is the realistic limit in terms of cost.
> 
> Kelly
> 
> 


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Re: Transfer email files?

[Kelly Clowers]

On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 07:40, randall  wrote:
> Thomas H. George wrote:
>> I have two computers with uptodate Squeeze systems, gdm, icewm and
>> iceape internet suite.  On one the iceape browser and email client can
>> play videos on the other they can't.  I have been unable to find the
>> reason for this difference.
>>
>> I want to move the email file and address book from the system that
>> can't play videos to the one that can without losing anything.  This is
>> important to me as I receive emails with video clips attached, upload
>> the video clips to a web site and use the browser to view the videos on
>> the web site.
>>
>> Perhaps such a move is a trivial operation but I want to be certain that
>> it suceeds.
>>
>> I would appreciate any descriptions of successful moves.
>>
>> Tom
>>
>>
> i'm not familair with the iceape suite but i do use Thunderbird+Firefox
> on 20 desktops and have moved the mail on numerous occasions without
> problems. (I GUESS, that iceape uses the same principle as the other
> mozilla products!)

SeaMonkey 1.1 has mail handling code that is very close to that in
Thunderbird 2. SeaMonkey 2.0 and Thunderbird 3 share the same mail
handling code.


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Re: When to expect a kernel commit in Debian stable's kernel?

[Brian Marshall]

On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 03:02:32PM +0200, Felix H. Dahlke wrote:
> On Sat, 2009-10-10 at 14:04 +0200, thveillon.debian wrote:
> > > However, I'm wondering why aptitude search and aptitude install show and
> > > install packages from backports when I'm not specifically using -t
> > > lenny-backports. That's a bit creepy.
> > 
> > You can use preferences for that purpose.
> 
> I never felt like fiddling with pinning, which is why I never did.
> That's why I was quite surprised that some packages where offered per
> default. It turned out that the only packages affected by this behaviour
> are those related to kernel 2.6.30, I assume the maintainers have a
> reason for this.

Each kernel version has its own package. If you try to install a 2.6.30
kernel package in lenny, it *has* to come from backports because it's
*only* available from backports.

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[green]

Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote at 2009-10-10 01:21 -0500:
> You can also force your to work correctly under dash / sh, but you'll have to 
> understand how to use eval, which can get a bit tricky.  It would look 
> something like this:

I second the eval suggestion, it has helped me several times to simplify things 
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Re: D-Link's Shareport USB Utility

[Eduardo M KALINOWSKI]

Merciadri Luca wrote:
> Thanks for this trick. Unfortunately,
> # smbclient 192.168.0.1 password -U Admin
>
> 192.168.0.1: Not enough '\' characters in service
>
> # smbclient -U Admin -L 192.168.0.1
> Connection to 192.168.0.1 failed (Error NT_STATUS_CONNECTION_REFUSED)
>
> I have seen in smbclient's manpages that a password can be
> given. Where do I have to put it? I tried everywhere in
> # smbclient -U Admin -L 192.168.0.1
> but I always read
> 192.168.0.1: Not enough '\' characters in service
>
> Any idea?

OK, it should be smbclient -L //192.168.0.1 (or whatever IP is used)

> You use the fact that the share is CIFS-based, but I am not sure that
> it is. I read the whole (trivial) manual, and various messages on the
> Internet, but I never found any standard specification about the
> sharing protocol D-Link uses. Thanks for any idea.

In this case, it might not be possible to access the driver under Linux.
If they use some proprietary protocol, someone has to write Linux
support for it. And if it's not published anywhere, it becomes quite
difficult for someone else to implement the protocol.


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Re: How much RAM can debian support?

[Micha Feigin]

On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 10:51:40 +0100
Kelly Harding  wrote:

> 2009/10/9 Dean Chester :
> > Hi
> > I'm moving to a Macbook soon(staying with debian tho:p) and apple keep
> > advertising that snow leopard can support 16 exobytes of RAM. Im just
> > wondering how much can 64-bit debian support?
> > Thanks in advance
> > Dean
> >
> 
> In theory at least Debian will support the limits of the kernel
> version it uses. So it is a bit subjective really.
> 
> IIRC, only the latest X58 chipsets (for desktop consumer PCs) support
> upto either 16Gb or 32Gb of RAM (forget which),
> and the P3x chipsets only support upto 8Gb, with the P45 supporting
> upto 16Gb. IIRC Intel laptop chipsets are derived from
> their desktop counterparts to some extent.
> 

I've seen machines going to the area of 160GB, not regular consumer ones though
Nehalem usually has 6 slots (3 channels, 2 slots per channel) and if you put in
8gb sticks you can go up to 48gb on a run of the mill board

Won't come cheap though ... especially since with so much memory you usually 
should opt for ecc
http://www.amazon.com/Kingston-Memory-DIMM-240-pin-registered/dp/B0028R3NC0/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&s=pc&qid=1255199747&sr=1-9

> Even though a motherboard can support upto 16Gb+ of ram, with most
> only having 4 slots, it'd be rather difficult/expensive to fill it
> so 8Gb is the realistic limit in terms of cost.
> 
> Kelly
> 
> 


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Re: Could you recommend CD/DVD writer program?

[John Hasler]

randall writes:
> this list sets the "reply to" to the original sender of the message
> instead of the list itself.

It does no such thing.  Here is the relevant part of the header of your
message as received here.  No "reply to" present.

  Message-ID: <4ad0c8f8.4040...@songshu.org>
  Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 19:48:40 +0200
  From: randall 
  User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817)
  MIME-Version: 1.0
  To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
  Subject: Re: Could you recommend CD/DVD writer program?
  References: <4ad09b1d.6080...@gmail.com>  
<20091010104314.314bb...@teksavvy.com>  
<3eb61c3d0910100805g3aadc10fvb7a9ae9abc52e...@mail.gmail.com>   
<20091010115121.1f696...@teksavvy.com>  
<3eb61c3d0910100935j1cfa415dhbf93a8492effd...@mail.gmail.com> 
<874oq7uq67@thumper.dhh.gt.org>
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> i always need to remove the TO and change the CC into TO, not sure if
> it works the same on all mail clients but i use Thunderbird.

Use "reply-to-list":

I found that in five seconds with Google.

> it might be more productive to send a polite request to change this
> default behavior to the list maintainer instead of some other remarks
> made in this thread.

Pointless.  This has been discussed repeatedly for years.  Your problem
is not that the list sets something you don't want but that it does not
set something you do want: "reply-to-list".  That is not going to
change.
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Re: Could you recommend CD/DVD writer program?

[Paul E Condon]

On 2009-10-10_19:48:40, randall wrote:
> John Hasler wrote:
> > Mark Goldshtein writes:
> >> Looks like I am really sorry what Debian Mailing List works this way.
> > 
> > The mailing list merely sends each subscriber one copy of each message
> > it receives.  That's all.  It has nothing to do with cc's and it never
> > sends more than one copy to each subscriber.  You are sending your
> > messages to JoeHill and cc'ing the list.  Here is the relevant part of
> > the header:
> > 
> > Message-ID: <3eb61c3d0910100935j1cfa415dhbf93a8492effd...@mail.gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: Could you recommend CD/DVD writer program?
> > From: Mark Goldshtein 
> > To: JoeHill 
> > Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> > 
> > Why are you doing this?
> 
> 
> 
> i have the same problem,
> 
> this list sets the "reply to" to the original sender of the message
> instead of the list itself.
> this is the only list i know that acts this way, i think i saw a thread
> on this or another debian list on this as well recently.
> 
> i always need to remove the TO and change the CC into TO, not sure if it
> works the same on all mail clients but i use Thunderbird.
> 
> it might be more productive to send a polite request to change this
> default behavior to the list maintainer instead of some other remarks
> made in this thread.
> 

I use Mutt to read my mail. In Mutt, the "L" key starts the composing
of a reply-to-list email.

I think that the developers, that is the people who are very important
to getting useful answers on this list, would be very unhappy if this
request, however politely phrased, were to be implemented.

IMHO, there are some things that are more important grand ideas of
social policy and open software. One is text-only email (no html), and
more important than that is MUAs that properly handle the
reply-to-list headers. ;-)

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Re: D-Link's Shareport USB Utility

[Merciadri Luca]

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> Merciadri Luca wrote:
>> No problem, I have already installed everything which is linked to my
>> router, using its web interface. But, as I said at the top of this
>> message, I do know how to *reach* its USB port.
>
> I'd suppose the hard-drive is shared via CIFS (the Windows protocol for
> sharing drivers, printers, etc), so it's accessible via SAMBA under
> Linux.
Note that without D-Link's utility, it is not recognized by Microsoft
Windows. I am thus doubtful about the fact that it would be shared using CIFS.
>
> Try smbclient -L 192.168.0.1 to see a list of shares. Then you can mount
> it with mount.cifs //192.168.0.1/share_name /some/local/directory
Thanks for this trick. Unfortunately,
# smbclient 192.168.0.1 password -U Admin

192.168.0.1: Not enough '\' characters in service

# smbclient -U Admin -L 192.168.0.1
Connection to 192.168.0.1 failed (Error NT_STATUS_CONNECTION_REFUSED)

I have seen in smbclient's manpages that a password can be
given. Where do I have to put it? I tried everywhere in
# smbclient -U Admin -L 192.168.0.1
but I always read
192.168.0.1: Not enough '\' characters in service

Any idea?


>
> There are other tools for browsing and accessing SAMBA shares too, but I
> don't know them well so I can't really recommend one.
You use the fact that the share is CIFS-based, but I am not sure that
it is. I read the whole (trivial) manual, and various messages on the
Internet, but I never found any standard specification about the
sharing protocol D-Link uses. Thanks for any idea.
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Re: Could you recommend CD/DVD writer program?

[randall]

John Hasler wrote:
> Mark Goldshtein writes:
>> Looks like I am really sorry what Debian Mailing List works this way.
> 
> The mailing list merely sends each subscriber one copy of each message
> it receives.  That's all.  It has nothing to do with cc's and it never
> sends more than one copy to each subscriber.  You are sending your
> messages to JoeHill and cc'ing the list.  Here is the relevant part of
> the header:
> 
> Message-ID: <3eb61c3d0910100935j1cfa415dhbf93a8492effd...@mail.gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Could you recommend CD/DVD writer program?
> From: Mark Goldshtein 
> To: JoeHill 
> Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> 
> Why are you doing this?



i have the same problem,

this list sets the "reply to" to the original sender of the message
instead of the list itself.
this is the only list i know that acts this way, i think i saw a thread
on this or another debian list on this as well recently.

i always need to remove the TO and change the CC into TO, not sure if it
works the same on all mail clients but i use Thunderbird.

it might be more productive to send a polite request to change this
default behavior to the list maintainer instead of some other remarks
made in this thread.


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Re: Could you recommend CD/DVD writer program?

[John Hasler]

Mark Goldshtein writes:
> Looks like I am really sorry what Debian Mailing List works this way.

The mailing list merely sends each subscriber one copy of each message
it receives.  That's all.  It has nothing to do with cc's and it never
sends more than one copy to each subscriber.  You are sending your
messages to JoeHill and cc'ing the list.  Here is the relevant part of
the header:

Message-ID: <3eb61c3d0910100935j1cfa415dhbf93a8492effd...@mail.gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Could you recommend CD/DVD writer program?
From: Mark Goldshtein 
To: JoeHill 
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org

Why are you doing this?
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Caution on ssh in mixed configuration

[Ross Boylan]

A few weeks ago, just after an upgrade, ssh stopped working, that is, it
my passphrase did not work:
r...@markov:~/.ssh$ ssh-keygen -v -v -v -y -f id_rsa
debug3: Not a RSA1 key file id_rsa.
debug1: PEM_read_PrivateKey failed
debug1: read PEM private key done: type 
Enter passphrase:
debug3: Not a RSA1 key file id_rsa.
debug1: PEM_read_PrivateKey failed
debug1: read PEM private key done: type 
load failed

The upgrade made the following packages post-lenny:
kvm/sid upgradeable from 72+dfsg-5 to 85+dfsg-4
libgcrypt11/sid uptodate 1.4.4-4
libgnutls26/sid upgradeable from 2.8.3-3 to 2.8.4-1
libgpg-error0/sid uptodate 1.6-1
libtasn1-3/sid uptodate 2.3-1
linux-headers-2.6.30-2-amd64/sid upgradeable from 2.6.30-7 to 2.6.30-8
linux-headers-2.6.30-2-common/sid upgradeable from 2.6.30-7 to 2.6.30-8
linux-image-2.6.30-1-amd64 2.6.30-5 installed: No available version in
archive
linux-image-2.6.30-2-amd64/sid upgradeable from 2.6.30-7 to 2.6.30-8
linux-kbuild-2.6.30/sid uptodate 2.6.30-1
linux-libc-dev/sid upgradeable from 2.6.30-1 to 2.6.30-8
linux-source-2.6.30/sid upgradeable from 2.6.30-5 to 2.6.30-8

I updated my 2.6.30 kernel and tried a newer kvm version, which drew in
the other packages.

I tried deleting my key and regenerating; it was still unreadable.

Today I downgraded, successively,
2009-10-10 09:48:05 status installed linux-libc-dev 2.6.26-17lenny2
2009-10-10 09:50:26 status installed man-db 2.5.2-4
2009-10-10 09:50:28 status installed libgnutls26 2.4.2-6+lenny1
2009-10-10 09:50:29 status installed kvm 72+dfsg-5~lenny2
2009-10-10 09:52:03 status installed libgcrypt11 1.4.1-1
2009-10-10 09:54:17 status installed libgpg-error0 1.4-2
2009-10-10 09:54:17 status installed libtasn1-3 1.4-1

After each package downgrade I tried verifying the key and failed.
Finally, after all the downgrades I made another new key.  This time it
was readable.

I couldn't find any bugs in the obvious package suspects, but there was
something about this combination that didnt work.

If anyone has insights into what was going on, I'd love to hear them.


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Re: D-Link's Shareport USB Utility

[Eduardo M KALINOWSKI]

Merciadri Luca wrote:
> No problem, I have already installed everything which is linked to my
> router, using its web interface. But, as I said at the top of this
> message, I do know how to *reach* its USB port.

I'd suppose the hard-drive is shared via CIFS (the Windows protocol for
sharing drivers, printers, etc), so it's accessible via SAMBA under Linux.

Try smbclient -L 192.168.0.1 to see a list of shares. Then you can mount
it with mount.cifs //192.168.0.1/share_name /some/local/directory

There are other tools for browsing and accessing SAMBA shares too, but I
don't know them well so I can't really recommend one.

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virtualbox: RTR3Init failed with rc=-1912 (rc=-1912)

[Mathieu Malaterre]

Hi there,

  I am trying to play with virtual box. Once I finish setting up my
virtual machine, and I hit start, I get the following error:

RTR3Init failed with rc=-1912 (rc=-1912)

The VirtualBox kernel modules do not fit to this version of
VirtualBox. The installation of VirtualBox was apparently not
successful. Executing

'/etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup'

should fix that problem. Make sure that you don't mix the OSE version
and the PUEL version of VirtualBox.



  I did follow *exactly* steps on:
http://wiki.debian.org/VirtualBox#Lenny

  system:
Linux mattbox 2.6.26-2-amd64 #1 SMP Wed Aug 19 22:33:18 UTC 2009
x86_64 GNU/Linux

$ apt-cache policy virtualbox-ose-modules-2.6.26-2-amd64
virtualbox-ose-modules-2.6.26-2-amd64:
  Installed: 2.6.26+1.6.6-dfsg-6+lenny1
  Candidate: 2.6.26+1.6.6-dfsg-6+lenny1
  Version table:
 *** 2.6.26+1.6.6-dfsg-6+lenny1 0
500 http://ftp.fr.debian.org lenny/main Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

$ apt-cache policy virtualbox-ose
virtualbox-ose:
  Installed: 3.0.6-dfsg-1~bpo50+1
  Candidate: 3.0.6-dfsg-1~bpo50+1
  Version table:
 3.0.6-dfsg-1 0
 -1 http://ftp.fr.debian.org testing/main Packages
 -1 http://ftp.fr.debian.org sid/main Packages
 *** 3.0.6-dfsg-1~bpo50+1 0
850 http://www.backports.org lenny-backports/main Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
 1.6.6-dfsg-3 0
500 http://ftp.fr.debian.org lenny/main Packages


$ lsmod | grep vboxdrv
vboxdrv  1658672  0


$ id
uid=1000(mathieu) gid=1000(mathieu)
groups=20(dialout),24(cdrom),25(floppy),29(audio),44(video),46(plugdev),110(netdev),114(powerdev),119(fuse),129(vboxusers),1000(mathieu)


There is no /etc/init.d/vboxdrv AFAIK, so what should I do instead ?

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Re: Could you recommend CD/DVD writer program?

[JoeHill]

Mark Goldshtein wrote: 

> On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 7:51 PM, JoeHill  wrote:
> > Please _do not_ cc me, I am subscribed to the list, and I really don't care
> > what your needs might be in this regard.  
> 
> Looks like I am really sorry what Debian Mailing List works this way.

No it does _not_ work this way. _You_ are doing it this way, and I have asked
you politely not to. If you continue, I will not be polite, and you will
fucking regret it.

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Re: Could you recommend CD/DVD writer program?

[Mark Goldshtein]

On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 7:51 PM, JoeHill  wrote:
> Please _do not_ cc me, I am subscribed to the list, and I really don't care
> what your needs might be in this regard.

Looks like I am really sorry what Debian Mailing List works this way.


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Upgrade from Lenny to Squeeze: X failed.

[Chris]

Greetings and happy weekend folks,

I previously tried upgrading from Lenny to squeeze:

1. Edit /etc/apt/sources.list to reflect squeeze

2. aptitude update

3. aptitude install apt dpkg aptitude

4. aptitude full-upgrade


The upgrade seemed to go well however, on reboot it failed to go into X.
The suspected video culprit is nVidia Corporation GeForce 8400 GS (rev
a1).

I have since reinstalled but would still prefer Squeeze. I would
appreciate and advice on how to proceed. I do apologize for the lack of
log entries and the vagueness of the question.


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Re: Could you recommend CD/DVD writer program?

[Nuno Magalhães]

Brasero works well for me.


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Re: Could you recommend CD/DVD writer program?

[JoeHill]

Mark Goldshtein wrote: 

> On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 6:43 PM, JoeHill  wrote:
> > J.Hwan.Kim wrote:
> >  
> >> Could you recommend CD/DVD writer program except gnomebaker ?  
> >
> > Brasero is awesome.  
> 
> According to my experience, Brasero is not such stable. Also, a
> support for external devices is not as good as it supposed to be for a
> component of a "stable" distro.

Do you have any actual facts to back that up, or just a baseless opinion?

> So, sorry for mix up KDE and Gnome - k3b is the choice.
> 
> O course, if you feel yourself familiar with a console - all the tools
> are already there.

Please _do not_ cc me, I am subscribed to the list, and I really don't care
what your needs might be in this regard.

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Re: Could you recommend CD/DVD writer program?

[green]

Mark Goldshtein wrote at 2009-10-10 10:05 -0500:
> On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 6:43 PM, JoeHill  wrote:
> > J.Hwan.Kim wrote:
> >
> >> Could you recommend CD/DVD writer program except gnomebaker ?
> >
> > Brasero is awesome.
> 
> According to my experience, Brasero is not such stable. Also, a
> support for external devices is not as good as it supposed to be for a
> component of a "stable" distro.
> 
> So, sorry for mix up KDE and Gnome - k3b is the choice.
> 
> O course, if you feel yourself familiar with a console - all the tools
> are already there.

Which are: wodim, genisoimage, icedax.

wodim(1) has an excellent example section.

cdw has a ncurses interface.


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Re: Redirect internet connection to wireless router (was: Sharing ppp [...])

[green]

Vinicius Massuchetto wrote at 2009-10-10 08:44 -0500:
> On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 4:03 PM, green  wrote:
> > Here is one way:
> > 1. Set the IP address statically on the laptop for eth0 (192.168.0.1).
> 
> I did this. My eth1 is on 192.168.1.1.

eth0 is on the WAN/internet side?

> > 2. Set up a DHCP server (I use dnsmasq) on the laptop, listening on eth0.
> 
> And this:
> $ cat /etc/dnsmasq.conf
> domain-needed
> bogus-priv
> interface=eth1
> dhcp-range=192.168.1.3,192.169.1.100,12h

That looks okay; hopefully nothing is missing.

> > 3. Configure the DHCP server to give the router a specific IP address, using
> > the MAC address of the router (IP 192.168.0.2).
> 
> The router configuration allows me to fix its IP. Is it still necessary?
> The router is on 192.168.1.2

That should work.

> > 4. Disable the DHCP server on the router.
> 
> I did this too. On LAN and WLAN interface.

Good.

> > 5. Install the ipmasq package, and configure as necessary.
> 
> ipmasq is not available on sid. What package replaces it?

Well, I'm not sure.  I've always just used the ipmasq package.

You could try
echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward

To apply this permanently put the following line in /etc/sysctl.conf:
net.ipv4.ip_forward=1

If that doesn't work, maybe someone else knows how.  I'm sure you can do it 
with nothing more than Linux + iptables, but I don't know how.


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Re: Configure wifi access / Free.Fr / WPA (TKIP/AES)

[Giff Hammar]

One thing you might try is using hex instead of clear text for your
password in /etc/network/interfaces. My WPA wouldn't work with the clear
text password in quotes, so I converted it to hex and it came up.

On Sat, 2009-10-10 at 14:03 +0200, Mathieu Malaterre wrote:
> Hi there,
>
>   I am trying a very simple task: connect to my wifi using a my debian box.
>   Setup: My wifi box is made by Free.Fr (French ADSL provider). I did
> setup the SSID to be foobar, no broadcast, and security "WPA
> (TKIP+AES)". I hit generate and it gives me a password. I can connect
> using WinXP no problem.
> 
>   Now if I try to connect with my debian box, I click on the
> network-manager and select 'Connect to Hidden Network', set security
> to 'WPA/WPA2 Personal' and copy paste the password as I would do on
> winxp. It does not connect at all.
>   I tried then:
> http://wiki.debian.org/Manual-Howto#AuthenticatewithwpausingPSKTKIP.
> It still does not work and I get (*). What am I doing wrong ? What are
> the tool to understand what is going on wrong ? Should I select
> another type of security ?
> 
> Config:
> Linux dietfry 2.6.30-bpo.1-686 #1 SMP Mon Aug 17 14:57:26 UTC 2009
> i686 GNU/Linux
> Wifi (output of lshw)
> 
>*-network
> description: Wireless interface
> product: PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or AGN [Kedron] Network 
> Connection
> vendor: Intel Corporation
> physical id: 0
> bus info: p...@:0c:00.0
> logical name: wmaster0
> version: 61
> serial: 00:21:5c:a0:55:17
> width: 64 bits
> clock: 33MHz
> capabilities: pm msi pciexpress bus_master cap_list
> logical ethernet physical wireless
> configuration: broadcast=yes driver=iwlagn latency=0
> module=iwlagn multicast=yes wireless=IEEE 802.11abgn
> 
> And software:
>  apt-cache policy wpasupplicant
> wpasupplicant:
>   Installed: 0.6.4-3
>   Candidate: 0.6.4-3
>   Version table:
>  0.6.9-3 0
> 200 http://ftp.fr.debian.org testing/main Packages
> 100 http://ftp.fr.debian.org unstable/main Packages
>  *** 0.6.4-3 0
> 500 http://ftp.fr.debian.org lenny/main Packages
> 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
> 
> 
> Thanks for your help !!
> -Mathieu
> 
> (*)
> $ sudo ifup eth0
> ioctl[SIOCSIWMODE]: Operation not supported
> Could not configure driver to use managed mode
> ioctl[SIOCGIWRANGE]: Operation not supported
> ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Operation not supported
> ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODE]: Operation not supported
> ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Operation not supported
> ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODE]: Operation not supported
> ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Operation not supported
> ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODE]: Operation not supported
> ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Operation not supported
> ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODE]: Operation not supported
> Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Client V3.1.1
> Copyright 2004-2008 Internet Systems Consortium.
> All rights reserved.
> For info, please visit http://www.isc.org/sw/dhcp/
> 
> Listening on LPF/eth0/00:21:70:b3:9b:cc
> Sending on   LPF/eth0/00:21:70:b3:9b:cc
> Sending on   Socket/fallback
> DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 8
> DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 18
> DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 17
> DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 7
> DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 11
> No DHCPOFFERS received.
> No working leases in persistent database - sleeping.
> 
> 


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Re: Could you recommend CD/DVD writer program?

[Mark Goldshtein]

On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 6:43 PM, JoeHill  wrote:
> J.Hwan.Kim wrote:
>
>> Could you recommend CD/DVD writer program except gnomebaker ?
>
> Brasero is awesome.

According to my experience, Brasero is not such stable. Also, a
support for external devices is not as good as it supposed to be for a
component of a "stable" distro.

So, sorry for mix up KDE and Gnome - k3b is the choice.

O course, if you feel yourself familiar with a console - all the tools
are already there.

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Re: Transfer email files?

[randall]

Thomas H. George wrote:
> I have two computers with uptodate Squeeze systems, gdm, icewm and
> iceape internet suite.  On one the iceape browser and email client can
> play videos on the other they can't.  I have been unable to find the
> reason for this difference.
> 
> I want to move the email file and address book from the system that
> can't play videos to the one that can without losing anything.  This is
> important to me as I receive emails with video clips attached, upload
> the video clips to a web site and use the browser to view the videos on
> the web site.
> 
> Perhaps such a move is a trivial operation but I want to be certain that
> it suceeds.
> 
> I would appreciate any descriptions of successful moves.
> 
> Tom
> 
> 
i'm not familair with the iceape suite but i do use Thunderbird+Firefox
on 20 desktops and have moved the mail on numerous occasions without
problems. (I GUESS, that iceape uses the same principle as the other
mozilla products!)

on my system there is a .mozilla-thunderbird (yours might be .iceape or
something) folder in the users /home dir  holds all user mails , address
books and settings, just copy these over to the other computer.

p.s.
check your browser to show the "hidden files" that start with a . if you
can't see any files that start with a .

p.p.s.
you might need to change the owner permissions if you run it as a
another user


p.p.s.
in case the other computer already has a folder like this and you would
like to keep these configs you need to back that up first, in case you
would like to "merge" these 2 its a slightly different story but i'm not
sure if you want that.

p.p.p.s.
as long as you do not delete and backup before you overwrite any folders
you can't go wrong)

have fun


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Re: Could you recommend CD/DVD writer program?

[randall]

Mihira Fernando wrote:
> On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 23:33:01 +0900
> "J.Hwan.Kim"  wrote:
> 
>> Hi, everyone
>>
>> Could you recommend CD/DVD writer program except gnomebaker ?
> 
> K3b
> 
> 
Brasero is another good one


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Re: Could you recommend CD/DVD writer program?

[Vinicius Massuchetto]

Brasero, or even Nautilus.
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On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 11:35 AM, Mihira Fernando
 wrote:
> On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 23:33:01 +0900
> "J.Hwan.Kim"  wrote:
>
>> Hi, everyone
>>
>> Could you recommend CD/DVD writer program except gnomebaker ?
>
> K3b
>
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Re: Could you recommend CD/DVD writer program?

[JoeHill]

J.Hwan.Kim wrote: 

> Could you recommend CD/DVD writer program except gnomebaker ?

Brasero is awesome.

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Re: How much RAM can debian support?

[owens]

>
>
>
> Original Message 
>From: lisi.re...@gmail.com
>To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>Subject: Re: How much RAM can debian support?
>Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 09:46:56 +0100
>
>>On Saturday 10 October 2009 05:23:45 Umarzuki Mochlis wrote:
>>> 2009/10/10 Marc Shapiro 
>>>
>>> > My first computer (a TRS-80 Model III) had 16K (that kilobites)
>of RAM
>>> > and 16k of ROM, then I quickly upgraded to its maximum of 48K.
>>> >
>>> > The times, they are a-changin'.
>>>
>>> 80's, 70's? You guys sure are senior citizens.
>>
>>Mere babes in arms.  I, probably like many of us, remember the early
>sixties.  
>>We may even have some here who remember the birth of Colossus??
>>
>>Lisi
>>
>>
Good old Sam Colossus.  He was my roommate in college in the 50's
(that part is true)
Larry
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Re: Could you recommend CD/DVD writer program?

[Mihira Fernando]

On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 23:33:01 +0900
"J.Hwan.Kim"  wrote:

> Hi, everyone
> 
> Could you recommend CD/DVD writer program except gnomebaker ?

K3b


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Could you recommend CD/DVD writer program?

[J.Hwan.Kim]

Hi, everyone

Could you recommend CD/DVD writer program except gnomebaker ?

Thanks in advance.

Best Regards,
J.Hwan Kim


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Transfer email files?

[Thomas H. George]

I have two computers with uptodate Squeeze systems, gdm, icewm and
iceape internet suite.  On one the iceape browser and email client can
play videos on the other they can't.  I have been unable to find the
reason for this difference.

I want to move the email file and address book from the system that
can't play videos to the one that can without losing anything.  This is
important to me as I receive emails with video clips attached, upload
the video clips to a web site and use the browser to view the videos on
the web site.

Perhaps such a move is a trivial operation but I want to be certain that
it suceeds.

I would appreciate any descriptions of successful moves.

Tom


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Re: How much RAM can debian support?

[Eduardo M KALINOWSKI]

David Fox wrote:
> Personally, I don't see a need to go 128 bit on a main cpu unless you
> have a desire to count and enumerate every elementary particle in the
> known universe, without a) running out of RAM, or b) spilling the
> content into a multiregister add/adc pair. :)
>   

Well, with 128 bits one avoids the year 4,292,277,026,596 problem[0].
It's nice to plan ahead, you know.

[0]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_2038_bug



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Re: Iceape video problem

[Eduardo M KALINOWSKI]

Thomas H. George wrote:
> flashplugin-nonfree is already the newest verion.
>   

This should happen automatically, but it won't hurt to run
update-flashplugin-nonfree --install

Afterwards, check if your browser detects the plugin as Florian said.


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Re: Redirect internet connection to wireless router (was: Sharing ppp [...])

[Vinicius Massuchetto]

On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 4:03 PM, green  wrote:
> Vinicius Massuchetto wrote at 2009-10-02 11:54 -0500:

[...]

> Here is one way:
> 1. Set the IP address statically on the laptop for eth0 (192.168.0.1).

I did this. My eth1 is on 192.168.1.1.

> 2. Set up a DHCP server (I use dnsmasq) on the laptop, listening on eth0.

And this:
$ cat /etc/dnsmasq.conf
domain-needed
bogus-priv
interface=eth1
dhcp-range=192.168.1.3,192.169.1.100,12h

> 3. Configure the DHCP server to give the router a specific IP address, using
> the MAC address of the router (IP 192.168.0.2).

The router configuration allows me to fix its IP. Is it still necessary?
The router is on 192.168.1.2

> 4. Disable the DHCP server on the router.

I did this too. On LAN and WLAN interface.

> 5. Install the ipmasq package, and configure as necessary.

ipmasq is not available on sid. What package replaces it?

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Re: Iceape video problem

[Florian Kulzer]

On Fri, Oct 09, 2009 at 13:57:41 -0400, Thomas H. George wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 09, 2009 at 02:19:41PM -0300, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote:
> > On Sex, 09 Out 2009, "Thomas H. George" wrote:
> > >I have two computers with uptodate Squeeze sytems including gdm, icewm
> > >and the iceape suite.  In one system the iceape browser can play youtube
> > >videos, in the other system cannot.
> > >
> > >The system that cannot play youtube videos has installed same plugins
> > >for iceape as the system which can play the videos.  The system that
> > >cannot play youtube videos has three additional plugins installed -
> > >Adobe Reader 9.1, Java plugin 1.6.0-14 and Java plugin 1.6.0-16.

[...]

> > Java is not involved in playing Youtube videos.
> > 
> > >The problem does not seem to be with gdm and icewm as it is possible to
> > >open a terminal window and play a video with the command totem test.flv.
> > 
> > Neither are stand-alone video players.
> > 
> > >I have beat my head against this problem for two days now and still have
> > >no clue as to the difference between the two systems.
> > >
> > >Any suggests as to where to look would be greatly appreciated.
> > 
> > You need the flash plugin. Install the flashplugin-nonfree package
> > and it should work.
> > 
> flashplugin-nonfree is already the newest verion.

I think you should check if iceape actually uses the correct plugin (and
not some outdated file that was left behind during an earlier attempt to
get flash working, for example).

Here is how to do that (for iceweasel, I hope it also works for iceape):

Go to "about:config", put "plugin" into the filter box and find the
setting called "plugin.expose_full_path". Change it to "true"
(right-click on the setting and choose "Toggle"). The "about:plugin"
page will now show you the full paths to all the plugin files that
iceweasel uses. Check the entry for "Shockwave Flash"; for comparison,
here is what I have on my Sid system:

Shockwave Flash
  File name: /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so
  Shockwave Flash 10.0 r32

MIME Type | Description | Suffixes | Enabled
application/x-shockwave-flash | Shockwave Flash | swf  | Yes
application/futuresplash  | FutureSplash Player | spl  | Yes

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Re: [pecon...@mesanetworks.net: Re: D-Link's Shareport USB Utility]

[Merciadri Luca]

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Paul E Condon  writes:

> Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 20:43:24 -0600
> From: Paul E Condon 
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: D-Link's Shareport USB Utility
> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17)
>
> On 2009-10-09_17:17:26, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
>> Merciadri Luca put forth on 10/9/2009 4:42 PM:
>> > Hello,
>> > 
>> > I am using a D-Link router which D-Link's SharePort utility can be
>> > used with. Unfortunately, this utility seems not to work at all
>> > under Debian (Lenny). Shareport aims at allowing the OS to use the
>> > router's USB port. Shareport is built for Windows, but Wine does not
>> > want to install it correctly, as the installation ends prematurely.
>> > 
>> > I do not even know how Shareport works. Is there any solution out
>> > there to allow Debian to look at my router's USB port?
>> 
>> A better question is why aren't you using ethernet instead of USB?  Use
>> the right tool for the job.
>> 
>
> I have several D-Link routers. I have always configured them using firefox
> and, more recently, iceweasel. I think any browser will do. 
>
> Point your browser at the default D-Link url, which is 192.168.0.1
> The router has a tiny local web server inside. The log-in dialog expects
> username, admin , and NO password. The documentation makes a big point of
> setting a password -- Don't set a password, if you do set a password make
> sure it is one that is totally obvious and impossible for you to forget, 
> like your given name. Note that the url is in the private network url space.
> You can change it to something else, but doing so just makes your life more
> difficult. Don't change it. 
>
> If you do set a password or change the url, you can recover from your
> error by using a paper-clip to press a reset switch that hides inside
> a little hole near the power jack.
>
> HTH
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Thanks for your help, but I know these things: I have already
configured everything on my router, but I do know *how* to access its
USB port without the D-Link Shareport utility: is there a port on,
say, 192.168.0.1 (the local IP of my LAN DHCP server, i.e. my router),
where I can reach its USB port?

Osamu Aoki  writes:

> Hi,
> 
> Please note I am just guessing.

>> On Fri, Oct 09, 2009 at 11:42:52PM +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote:
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I am using a D-Link router which D-Link's SharePort utility can be
>> used with. Unfortunately, this utility seems not to work at all
>> under Debian (Lenny). Shareport aims at allowing the OS to use the
>> router's USB port. Shareport is built for Windows, but Wine does not
>> want to install it correctly, as the installation ends prematurely.
>> 
>> I do not even know how Shareport works. Is there any solution out
>> there to allow Debian to look at my router's USB port?
>
> Basically, hardware configuration tools are quite platform specific.  If
> you expect it to work under wine, you may not be so lucky.
>
> It is usually better to think about using device than using proprietary
> configuration tools.
I know.
> 
> What do you want to do with that USB port.  Attach HDD? Attach
> Printer?
I would like to attach HDD.
> 
> Once you know how it communicates with clients, you may find tools to
> access it.  My bet is: 
>
> * CUPS for printer
> * SAMBA for HDD
To use such clients, my router needs to use a Linux distro, doesn't
it? But how do I know which OS it is shipped with?
>
> As I understand most of these routers, they can be accessed by HTTP for
> their configuration via web page.  Do you know your routers address.
Yes.
> Suppose it is 192.168.0.1 , point your browser to it.  You may need to
> read manual to find out password for it.  My router uses:
> http://web.setup/ .
No problem, I have already installed everything which is linked to my
router, using its web interface. But, as I said at the top of this
message, I do know how to *reach* its USB port. 

A solution?
> 
> Good luck,
> 
> Osamu
>
> PS: My router has USB port which can be attached to HDD.  I have not
> tried it but it seems it provide files via SAMBA for Linux.
Which is model is your router?

Thanks.
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Re: D-Link's Shareport USB Utility

[Merciadri Luca]

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Osamu Aoki  writes:

> Hi,
>
> Please note I am just guessing.
>
> On Fri, Oct 09, 2009 at 11:42:52PM +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote:
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I am using a D-Link router which D-Link's SharePort utility can be
>> used with. Unfortunately, this utility seems not to work at all
>> under Debian (Lenny). Shareport aims at allowing the OS to use the
>> router's USB port. Shareport is built for Windows, but Wine does not
>> want to install it correctly, as the installation ends prematurely.
>> 
>> I do not even know how Shareport works. Is there any solution out
>> there to allow Debian to look at my router's USB port?
>
> Basically, hardware configuration tools are quite platform specific.  If
> you expect it to work under wine, you may not be so lucky.
>
> It is usually better to think about using device than using proprietary
> configuration tools.
>
> What do you want to do with that USB port.  Attach HDD? Attach Printer?
>
> Once you know how it communicates with clients, you may find tools to
> access it.  My bet is: 
>
>  * CUPS for printer
>  * SAMBA for HDD
>
> As I understand most of these routers, they can be accessed by HTTP for
> their configuration via web page.  Do you know your routers address.
> Suppose it is 192.168.0.1 , point your browser to it.  You may need to
> read manual to find out password for it.  My router uses:
> http://web.setup/ .
>
> Good luck,
>
> Osamu
>
> PS: My router has USB port which can be attached to HDD.  I have not
> tried it but it seems it provide files via SAMBA for Linux.
>
>> Thanks.
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>> See http://www.student.montefiore.ulg.ac.be/~merciadri/
>> 
>> 
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Please find my answer here.

Paul E Condon  writes:

> Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 20:43:24 -0600
> From: Paul E Condon 
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: D-Link's Shareport USB Utility
> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17)
>
> On 2009-10-09_17:17:26, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
>> Merciadri Luca put forth on 10/9/2009 4:42 PM:
>> > Hello,
>> > 
>> > I am using a D-Link router which D-Link's SharePort utility can be
>> > used with. Unfortunately, this utility seems not to work at all
>> > under Debian (Lenny). Shareport aims at allowing the OS to use the
>> > router's USB port. Shareport is built for Windows, but Wine does not
>> > want to install it correctly, as the installation ends prematurely.
>> > 
>> > I do not even know how Shareport works. Is there any solution out
>> > there to allow Debian to look at my router's USB port?
>> 
>> A better question is why aren't you using ethernet instead of USB?  Use
>> the right tool for the job.
>> 
>
> I have several D-Link routers. I have always configured them using firefox
> and, more recently, iceweasel. I think any browser will do. 
>
> Point your browser at the default D-Link url, which is 192.168.0.1
> The router has a tiny local web server inside. The log-in dialog expects
> username, admin , and NO password. The documentation makes a big point of
> setting a password -- Don't set a password, if you do set a password make
> sure it is one that is totally obvious and impossible for you to forget, 
> like your given name. Note that the url is in the private network url space.
> You can change it to something else, but doing so just makes your life more
> difficult. Don't change it. 
>
> If you do set a password or change the url, you can recover from your
> error by using a paper-clip to press a reset switch that hides inside
> a little hole near the power jack.
>
> HTH
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>
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Thanks for your help, but I know these things: I have already
configured everything on my router, but I do know *how* to access its
USB port without the D-Link Shareport utility: is there a port on,
say, 192.168.0.1 (the local IP of my LAN DHCP server, i.e. my router),
where I can reach its USB port?

Osamu Aoki  writes:

> Hi,
> 
> Please note I am just guessing.

>> On Fri, Oct 09, 2009 at 11:42:52PM +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote:
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I am using a D-Link router which D-Link's SharePort utility can be
>> used with. Unfortunately, this utility seems not to work at all
>> under Debian (Lenny). Shareport aims at allowing the OS to use the
>> router's USB port. Shareport is built for Windows, but Wine does not
>> want to install it correctly, as the installation ends prematurely.
>> 
>> I do not even know how Shareport works. Is there any solution out
>> there to allow Debian to look at my router's USB port?
>
> Basically, hardware configuration tools are quite platform specific.  If
> you expect it to work under wine, you may not be so lucky.
>
> It is

Re: D-Link's Shareport USB Utility

[Merciadri Luca]

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Stan Hoeppner  writes:

>
> A better question is why aren't you using ethernet instead of USB?  Use
> the right tool for the job.
I think you misunderstood what I wanted. I have no Ethernet capability
on my HDDs and it is still too expensive to use this solution.
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Re: When to expect a kernel commit in Debian stable's kernel?

[Osamu Aoki]

Hi,

On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 01:36:59PM +0200, Felix H. Dahlke wrote:
> On Sat, 2009-10-10 at 12:42 +0200, thveillon.debian wrote:
> > gspca has been inside the kernel since 2.6.27 onward.
> 
> Ah, the missing link, thank you!
> 
> > So from 2.6.27 you don't need any other source package, just userland tools.
> > If you add debian backport to your sources.list I believe you'll have
> > access to a 2.6.30 kernel, with gspca compiled as a module most probably.
> 
> Yes, it was my mistake to assume that the 2.6.30 kernel offered to me by
> aptitude search was from the stable repositories - I already have the
> lenny backports repository.
> 
> However, I'm wondering why aptitude search and aptitude install show and
> install packages from backports when I'm not specifically using -t
> lenny-backports. That's a bit creepy.

No.  It is for your sake :-)  You may not wish to use all of the
backported packages.  We make this kind of archives as NotAutomatic
archives.  

 
http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch02.en.html#_volatile_and_backports_org
 
http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch02.en.html#_archive_level_release_files
 
> Nonetheless, I've installed linux-image-2.6.30-bpo.2-686 (I think the
> bpo stands for backport, but what does the .2 stand for? If a .3 was
> released, would I automatically get it when updating?) and the webcam is
> recognised properly - this solves my case.

That depends on how you set up /etc/apt/preferences .  Default is not.

 
http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch02.en.html#_tweaking_candidate_version
 
> In fact, it doesn't work (merely a black screen in cheese), so I'll just
> return it to the shop. Anyways, thanks for the fast help, really
> appreciated!

For my case, I needed to put some non-free driver binary from MacOS to
USB connected camera.  Please google info specific to your hardware.

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Re: When to expect a kernel commit in Debian stable's kernel?

[Felix H. Dahlke]

On Sat, 2009-10-10 at 14:04 +0200, thveillon.debian wrote:
> > However, I'm wondering why aptitude search and aptitude install show and
> > install packages from backports when I'm not specifically using -t
> > lenny-backports. That's a bit creepy.
> 
> You can use preferences for that purpose.

I never felt like fiddling with pinning, which is why I never did.
That's why I was quite surprised that some packages where offered per
default. It turned out that the only packages affected by this behaviour
are those related to kernel 2.6.30, I assume the maintainers have a
reason for this.

> Sorry about that, could you share what this bad apple usb ID is (lsusb
> output) ?

Why of course: The USB ID is 093a:2620.
Here's what lsusb has to say:
Bus 002 Device 002: ID 093a:2620 Pixart Imaging, Inc. 

The reason why I was interested in that particular commit was it's
message:
"gspca - pac7311: Webcam 093a:2620 added."

Here's the URL: http://linuxtv.org/hg/v4l-dvb/rev/5d1d221f596f

But my webcam is _not_ an Apollo AC-905, it's from a cheap brand
ironically called "Superior" which, I believe, only exists in Germany.

Their model number for it is PC731, but Google doesn't know anything
about it.

I hoped that those "Superior" folks merely took some webcam (which
happened to have the ID 093a:2620) and put their branding on it.
Apparently, something else is different about it.

I'm pretty unsure about whether to annoy the pac7311 developer with that
device, since it's obviously not exactly widespread, plus I'm going to
return it anyways, because the person I'm trying to install it for needs
a webcam ASAP.

During my research on this problem, I've at least finally found a couple
of places to look for webcam compatibility, so I'll hopefully make a
better buy next time.


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Re: D-Link's Shareport USB Utility

[Osamu Aoki]

Hi,

Please note I am just guessing.

On Fri, Oct 09, 2009 at 11:42:52PM +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I am using a D-Link router which D-Link's SharePort utility can be
> used with. Unfortunately, this utility seems not to work at all
> under Debian (Lenny). Shareport aims at allowing the OS to use the
> router's USB port. Shareport is built for Windows, but Wine does not
> want to install it correctly, as the installation ends prematurely.
> 
> I do not even know how Shareport works. Is there any solution out
> there to allow Debian to look at my router's USB port?

Basically, hardware configuration tools are quite platform specific.  If
you expect it to work under wine, you may not be so lucky.

It is usually better to think about using device than using proprietary
configuration tools.

What do you want to do with that USB port.  Attach HDD? Attach Printer?

Once you know how it communicates with clients, you may find tools to
access it.  My bet is: 

 * CUPS for printer
 * SAMBA for HDD

As I understand most of these routers, they can be accessed by HTTP for
their configuration via web page.  Do you know your routers address.
Suppose it is 192.168.0.1 , point your browser to it.  You may need to
read manual to find out password for it.  My router uses:
http://web.setup/ .

Good luck,

Osamu

PS: My router has USB port which can be attached to HDD.  I have not
tried it but it seems it provide files via SAMBA for Linux.



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> 
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Re: bash question

[Antonio Perez]

Alex Samad wrote:

> Hi, i have this:

> RDSCHM="--remote-schema 'ssh -i /root/.ssh/id_backup -C  %s rdiff-backup 
> --server'"

> and trying this
> 
> rdiff-backup \
> $RDSCHM \
> $RDRM \
> "$DEST/"

> with sh -x i get this
 
> + rdiff-backup --remote-schema ''\''ssh' -i /root/.ssh/id_backup -C %s 
> rdiff-backup '--server'\''' --remove-older-than '"10B"' --force 
> max::/backups/test/system/

I am pretty sure you are using bash as the sh link, do 'ls -la /bin/sh' to get: 
/bin/sh --> /bin/bash
If it were dash the responses would be different.

Testing: set up a "test" file with:
#!/bin/sh
RDSCHM="--remote-schema 'ssh -i /root/.ssh/id_backup -C %s rdiff-backup 
--server'"
echo $RDSCHM
echo "$RDSCHM"
with: bash -x test, I get:
+ RDSCHM='--remote-schema '\''ssh -i /root/.ssh/id_backup -C %s 
rdiff-backup --server'\'''
+ echo --remote-schema ''\''ssh' -i /root/.ssh/id_backup 
$'-C\302\240%s' 'rdiff-backup --server'\'''
--remote-schema 'ssh -i /root/.ssh/id_backup -C %s rdiff-backup 
--server'
+ echo '--remote-schema '\''ssh -i /root/.ssh/id_backup -C %s 
rdiff-backup --server'\'''
--remote-schema 'ssh -i /root/.ssh/id_backup -C %s rdiff-backup 
--server'

with: dash -x test, I get:
+ RDSCHM=--remote-schema 'ssh -i /root/.ssh/id_backup -C %s 
rdiff-backup --server'
+ echo --remote-schema 'ssh -i /root/.ssh/id_backup -C %s rdiff-backup 
--server'
--remote-schema 'ssh -i /root/.ssh/id_backup -C %s rdiff-backup 
--server'
+ echo --remote-schema 'ssh -i /root/.ssh/id_backup -C %s rdiff-backup 
--server'
--remote-schema 'ssh -i /root/.ssh/id_backup -C %s rdiff-backup 
--server'

with dash there is no «  ''\''ssh'  »

Also, did you notice the difference between a command on an unquoted variable 
and a quoted one?
+ echo --remote-schema ''\''ssh' -i /root/.ssh/id_backup 
$'-C\302\240%s' 'rdiff-backup --server'\'''
+ echo '--remote-schema '\''ssh -i /root/.ssh/id_backup -C %s 
rdiff-backup --server'\'''

Conclusion: Quoting the variable will solve your problem, as this:
rdiff-backup \
  "$RDSCHM" \
  "$RDRM" \
  "$DEST/"


> the ''\''ssh' is the confusing bit it is seperate out the ssh and the -i.

Yes, on a bash shell, but only while quoting with -x, the actual command does 
the right thing.

> what can I do to prevent this.

Just put « $RDSCHM »  inside quotes as this: « "$RDSCHM" »

> My reading has lead me to IFS variable
> but I don't want to start playing with this yet ! I think I am just
> missing something. Hopefully the ml eyes will be able to see what i
> can't

No need to

> oh and its using dash well sh

It does not really matter which shell it is, when the issue is about correct 
quoting of variables.

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Re: When to expect a kernel commit in Debian stable's kernel?

[thveillon.debian]

Felix H. Dahlke wrote:
> On Sat, 2009-10-10 at 12:42 +0200, thveillon.debian wrote:
>> gspca has been inside the kernel since 2.6.27 onward.
> 
> Ah, the missing link, thank you!
> 
>> So from 2.6.27 you don't need any other source package, just userland tools.
>> If you add debian backport to your sources.list I believe you'll have
>> access to a 2.6.30 kernel, with gspca compiled as a module most probably.
> 
> Yes, it was my mistake to assume that the 2.6.30 kernel offered to me by
> aptitude search was from the stable repositories - I already have the
> lenny backports repository.
> 
> However, I'm wondering why aptitude search and aptitude install show and
> install packages from backports when I'm not specifically using -t
> lenny-backports. That's a bit creepy.
>

You can use preferences for that purpose. Create a /etc/apt/preferences
file (it will work for aptitude too) with this inside :

Package: *
Pin: release a=lenny-backports
Pin-Priority: 1

The number you put at the "Pin-Priority" line will set the
install/update behavior for the entire backport repo. If you use
something over 991 they will have the highest priority, at 1 they won't
 be installed unless you ask for it (with aptitude -t), and they won't
be automatically updated either.
As a guideline something in between 101 and 200 should do what you want
(no auto-install, auto-update).

See "man apt_preferences" for more subtle use of this "package pinning"
feature, or http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-apt-get.en.html

(chapter 3.8 "mixed system)



> Nonetheless, I've installed linux-image-2.6.30-bpo.2-686 (I think the
> bpo stands for backport, but what does the .2 stand for? If a .3 was
> released, would I automatically get it when updating?) and the webcam is
> recognised properly - this solves my case.
> 
> In fact, it doesn't work (merely a black screen in cheese), so I'll just
> return it to the shop. Anyways, thanks for the fast help, really
> appreciated!

Sorry about that, could you share what this bad apple usb ID is (lsusb
output) ?

Tom


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Configure wifi access / Free.Fr / WPA (TKIP/AES)

[Mathieu Malaterre]

Hi there,

  I am trying a very simple task: connect to my wifi using a my debian box.
  Setup: My wifi box is made by Free.Fr (French ADSL provider). I did
setup the SSID to be foobar, no broadcast, and security "WPA
(TKIP+AES)". I hit generate and it gives me a password. I can connect
using WinXP no problem.

  Now if I try to connect with my debian box, I click on the
network-manager and select 'Connect to Hidden Network', set security
to 'WPA/WPA2 Personal' and copy paste the password as I would do on
winxp. It does not connect at all.
  I tried then:
http://wiki.debian.org/Manual-Howto#AuthenticatewithwpausingPSKTKIP.
It still does not work and I get (*). What am I doing wrong ? What are
the tool to understand what is going on wrong ? Should I select
another type of security ?

Config:
Linux dietfry 2.6.30-bpo.1-686 #1 SMP Mon Aug 17 14:57:26 UTC 2009
i686 GNU/Linux
Wifi (output of lshw)

   *-network
description: Wireless interface
product: PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or AGN [Kedron] Network Connection
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 0
bus info: p...@:0c:00.0
logical name: wmaster0
version: 61
serial: 00:21:5c:a0:55:17
width: 64 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm msi pciexpress bus_master cap_list
logical ethernet physical wireless
configuration: broadcast=yes driver=iwlagn latency=0
module=iwlagn multicast=yes wireless=IEEE 802.11abgn

And software:
 apt-cache policy wpasupplicant
wpasupplicant:
  Installed: 0.6.4-3
  Candidate: 0.6.4-3
  Version table:
 0.6.9-3 0
200 http://ftp.fr.debian.org testing/main Packages
100 http://ftp.fr.debian.org unstable/main Packages
 *** 0.6.4-3 0
500 http://ftp.fr.debian.org lenny/main Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status


Thanks for your help !!
-Mathieu

(*)
$ sudo ifup eth0
ioctl[SIOCSIWMODE]: Operation not supported
Could not configure driver to use managed mode
ioctl[SIOCGIWRANGE]: Operation not supported
ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Operation not supported
ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODE]: Operation not supported
ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Operation not supported
ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODE]: Operation not supported
ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Operation not supported
ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODE]: Operation not supported
ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Operation not supported
ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODE]: Operation not supported
Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Client V3.1.1
Copyright 2004-2008 Internet Systems Consortium.
All rights reserved.
For info, please visit http://www.isc.org/sw/dhcp/

Listening on LPF/eth0/00:21:70:b3:9b:cc
Sending on   LPF/eth0/00:21:70:b3:9b:cc
Sending on   Socket/fallback
DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 8
DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 18
DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 17
DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 7
DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 11
No DHCPOFFERS received.
No working leases in persistent database - sleeping.


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Re: When to expect a kernel commit in Debian stable's kernel?

[Felix H. Dahlke]

On Sat, 2009-10-10 at 12:42 +0200, thveillon.debian wrote:
> gspca has been inside the kernel since 2.6.27 onward.

Ah, the missing link, thank you!

> So from 2.6.27 you don't need any other source package, just userland tools.
> If you add debian backport to your sources.list I believe you'll have
> access to a 2.6.30 kernel, with gspca compiled as a module most probably.

Yes, it was my mistake to assume that the 2.6.30 kernel offered to me by
aptitude search was from the stable repositories - I already have the
lenny backports repository.

However, I'm wondering why aptitude search and aptitude install show and
install packages from backports when I'm not specifically using -t
lenny-backports. That's a bit creepy.

Nonetheless, I've installed linux-image-2.6.30-bpo.2-686 (I think the
bpo stands for backport, but what does the .2 stand for? If a .3 was
released, would I automatically get it when updating?) and the webcam is
recognised properly - this solves my case.

In fact, it doesn't work (merely a black screen in cheese), so I'll just
return it to the shop. Anyways, thanks for the fast help, really
appreciated!


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Re: How much RAM can debian support?

[Magnus Pedersen]

Alex Samad wrote:

> On Fri, Oct 09, 2009 at 05:14:32PM -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
>> Dean Chester put forth on 10/9/2009 3:44 PM:
>> > Hi
>> > I'm moving to a Macbook soon(staying with debian tho:p) and apple keep
>> > advertising that snow leopard can support 16 exobytes of RAM. Im just
>> > wondering how much can 64-bit debian support?
>> > Thanks in advance
>> > Dean
>> 
>> You've got other constraints to worry about other than theoretical 64
>> bit CPU/OS maximums.  Fist is power, second is space.  You'll be hard
>> pressed to find a laptop/notebook/whatever that will accept more than
>> 8GB worth of SODIMMs any time soon, from any vendor.  In another couple
>> of years you may see laptops supporting up to 16GB as RAM manufacturers
>> move to smaller transistor geometries.
> 
> God can you remember when 16M used to be a lot ...
> 
>> 
> 
My first one, a commedore vic-20, I think I was 8 years old and it was my 
first real love...
1MHz CPU I think is was a 6502
5K RAM

/Magnus


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Re: How much RAM can debian support?

[Magnus Pedersen]

David Fox wrote:

> b) spilling the
> content into a multiregister add/adc pair. :)

...or your coffee into the keyboard 



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Re: When to expect a kernel commit in Debian stable's kernel?

[thveillon.debian]

Felix H. Dahlke wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-10-09 at 18:25 -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
>> Between releases, stable is only updated to fix RC bugs.
> 
> Does that imply that there is no kernel release within one stable life
> cycle? If so, why are there 2.6.30 packages in lenny?
> What I'm currently hoping for is that the package gspca-modules will be
> released for kernel 2.6.30 (and that it will indeed contain the commit I
> desire) - should I?
> I don't think my issue (support for a particular webcam) qualifies as an
> RC bug.
> 
> The package I'm looking for (gspca-modules) is not yet in testing or
> unstable. However, the source package it apparently originates from
> (linux-modules-extra), _is_ in testing, at version 2.6.30.
> 
> Although Stan posted a lovely guide, I'd prefer to not build my own
> kernel if I can avoid it - this is not for my own PC.
> What I could imagine is installing the linux-2.6.30 binary kernel and
> building my own linux-modules-extra. Would anything (besides gspca) be
> missing if I'm using linux-2.6.30 in lenny?

Hi,

gspca has been inside the kernel since 2.6.27 onward. This is from the
actual Squeeze stock Debian kernel :

grep -i gspca /boot/config-2.6.30-2-amd64
CONFIG_USB_GSPCA=m
CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_CONEX=m
CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_ETOMS=m
CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_FINEPIX=m
CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_MARS=m
CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_MR97310A=m
CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_OV519=m
CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_OV534=m
CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_PAC207=m
CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_PAC7311=m
CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_SONIXB=m
CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_SONIXJ=m
CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_SPCA500=m
CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_SPCA501=m
CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_SPCA505=m
CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_SPCA506=m
CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_SPCA508=m
CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_SPCA561=m
CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_SQ905=m
CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_SQ905C=m
CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_STK014=m
CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_SUNPLUS=m
CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_T613=m
CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_TV8532=m
CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_VC032X=m
CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_ZC3XX=m
modprobe -l | grep gspca
kernel/drivers/media/video/gspca/gspca_main.ko
kernel/drivers/media/video/gspca/gspca_conex.ko
kernel/drivers/media/video/gspca/gspca_etoms.ko
kernel/drivers/media/video/gspca/gspca_finepix.ko
kernel/drivers/media/video/gspca/gspca_mars.ko
kernel/drivers/media/video/gspca/gspca_mr97310a.ko
kernel/drivers/media/video/gspca/gspca_ov519.ko
kernel/drivers/media/video/gspca/gspca_ov534.ko
[...]

So from 2.6.27 you don't need any other source package, just userland tools.
If you add debian backport to your sources.list I believe you'll have
access to a 2.6.30 kernel, with gspca compiled as a module most probably.

Hope it helps.

Tom


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Re: When to expect a kernel commit in Debian stable's kernel?

[Felix H. Dahlke]

On Fri, 2009-10-09 at 18:25 -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> Between releases, stable is only updated to fix RC bugs.

Does that imply that there is no kernel release within one stable life
cycle? If so, why are there 2.6.30 packages in lenny?
What I'm currently hoping for is that the package gspca-modules will be
released for kernel 2.6.30 (and that it will indeed contain the commit I
desire) - should I?
I don't think my issue (support for a particular webcam) qualifies as an
RC bug.

The package I'm looking for (gspca-modules) is not yet in testing or
unstable. However, the source package it apparently originates from
(linux-modules-extra), _is_ in testing, at version 2.6.30.

Although Stan posted a lovely guide, I'd prefer to not build my own
kernel if I can avoid it - this is not for my own PC.
What I could imagine is installing the linux-2.6.30 binary kernel and
building my own linux-modules-extra. Would anything (besides gspca) be
missing if I'm using linux-2.6.30 in lenny?


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Re: How much RAM can debian support?

[Kelly Harding]

2009/10/9 Dean Chester :
> Hi
> I'm moving to a Macbook soon(staying with debian tho:p) and apple keep
> advertising that snow leopard can support 16 exobytes of RAM. Im just
> wondering how much can 64-bit debian support?
> Thanks in advance
> Dean
>

In theory at least Debian will support the limits of the kernel
version it uses. So it is a bit subjective really.

IIRC, only the latest X58 chipsets (for desktop consumer PCs) support
upto either 16Gb or 32Gb of RAM (forget which),
and the P3x chipsets only support upto 8Gb, with the P45 supporting
upto 16Gb. IIRC Intel laptop chipsets are derived from
their desktop counterparts to some extent.

Even though a motherboard can support upto 16Gb+ of ram, with most
only having 4 slots, it'd be rather difficult/expensive to fill it
so 8Gb is the realistic limit in terms of cost.

Kelly


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Re: How much RAM can debian support?

[Tim Clewlow]

> On Saturday 10 October 2009 05:23:45 Umarzuki Mochlis wrote:
>> 2009/10/10 Marc Shapiro 
>>
>> > My first computer (a TRS-80 Model III) had 16K (that kilobites)
>> of RAM
>> > and 16k of ROM, then I quickly upgraded to its maximum of 48K.
>> >
>> > The times, they are a-changin'.
>>
>> 80's, 70's? You guys sure are senior citizens.
>
> Mere babes in arms.  I, probably like many of us, remember the early
> sixties.
> We may even have some here who remember the birth of Colossus??
>
> Lisi
>

But, but, I thought no-one was supposed to mention the forbin
project!?!?!

Oh good god, what have we done !!!

Cheers, Tim. :-)


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Re: How much RAM can debian support?

[Lisi]

On Saturday 10 October 2009 05:23:45 Umarzuki Mochlis wrote:
> 2009/10/10 Marc Shapiro 
>
> > My first computer (a TRS-80 Model III) had 16K (that kilobites) of RAM
> > and 16k of ROM, then I quickly upgraded to its maximum of 48K.
> >
> > The times, they are a-changin'.
>
> 80's, 70's? You guys sure are senior citizens.

Mere babes in arms.  I, probably like many of us, remember the early sixties.  
We may even have some here who remember the birth of Colossus??

Lisi


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Re: bash question

[Alex Samad]

On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 01:21:30AM -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> In <20091010042217.gd2...@samad.com.au>, Alex Samad wrote:
> >Hi
> >
> >i have this
> >
> >RDSCHM="--remote-schema 'ssh -i /root/.ssh/id_backup -C  %s
> >rdiff-backup  --server'"
> >
> >
> >and trying this
> >
> >rdiff-backup \
> > $RDSCHM \
> > $RDRM \
> > "$DEST/"
> 
> Sorry, there's no clean, portable way to have both multiple command-line 
> arguments in a single variable and have an IFS character in one of those 
> arguments.

Oh well, time to play with IFS or eval

> 
> When you do this rdiff-backup gets these arguments:
> argv = {
>  [0] = "rdiff-backup"
>  [1] = "--remote-schema"
>  [2] = "'ssh"
>  [3] = "-i"
>  [4] = "/root/.ssh/id_backup"
>  [5] = "-C"
>  ... /* etc. */
> }
> 
> If you force your script to be executed with bash (NOT dash or just sh) you 
> can use shell arrays to do what you want:
> 
> RDSCHM=(
>  '--remote-schema'
>  'ssh -i /root/.ssh/id_backup -C %s rdiff-backup --server'
> )
> 
> rdiff-backup \
>   "$rdsc...@]" \
>   $RDRM \
>   "$DEST/"
> 
> 
> You can also force your to work correctly under dash / sh, but you'll have to 
> understand how to use eval, which can get a bit tricky.  It would look 
> something like this:


I wanted to try and stick to non bashisms

> 
> RDSCHM="--remote-schema \
> 'ssh -i /root/.ssh/id_backup -C %s rdiff-backup --server'"
> 
> eval "rdiff-backup $RDSCHM $RDRM "'"$DEST/"'

thanks

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