Re: logiciel collaboratif pour organisation (paquet debian)

2009-11-02 Thread Patrick Dos Santos

- tv debian tv.deb...@googlemail.com a écrit :

 Etienne Maynier a écrit :
  Salut,
  J'ai installé egroupware comme logiciel de travail collaboratif. Il
 est
  bien fait et très simple à utiliser par contre il se présente sous
 la
  forme d'une interface web, je ne sais pas si c'est exactement ce que
 tu
  cherche.
  Bye
  
  Le 1 novembre 2009 15:44, Louis-Philippe Gauthier
 lpgauth...@gmail.com
  mailto:lpgauth...@gmail.com a écrit :
  
  Bonjour,
  
  Je suis à la recherche d'un logiciel client/serveur pour le
 travail
  collaboratif: agenda, courriel, annuaire d'organisation, note
 de
  groupe, etc. Bref, c'est  comme Exchange/outlook de Microsofft
 ou
  GroupWize de Novell.  En paquet debian côté serveur avec
 logiciel
  client sous Debian et Windows.
  
  Il semble y avoir OpenXchange qui n'est malheureusement pas en
  paquet Debian encore...
  
  
  
  Merci de votre collaboration,
  
  
  Louis-Philippe Gauthier
  
  
 
 Salut,
 
 (je n'ai pas vu le début du sujet, excuses si ça fait doublon)
 
 j'ai récemment découvert SoGo a l'occasion de la sortie d'une
 nouvelle
 version, je pense que ça couvre tes besoins. Il y a un dépôt deb
 pour
 Debian Squeeze, je ne sais pas si c'est disponible pour Lenny. La
 même
 société (Inverse) développe une extension pour Thunderbird
 (Lightning)
 qui lui permet d'agir comme client. Il y aussi possibilité
 d'intégration
 avec Outlook 2003+ côté client Microsoft.
 
 http://www.scalableogo.org/fr.html
 
 


Pour ma part j'utilise Zimbra depuis plusieurs années
Paquet debian dispo 
Par contre il se comporte telle une appliance
Tous est intégré spam/antivirus/smtp/web/ldap etc
En plus un client lourd existe zimbra Desktop

Et pour finir Zimbra est OPENSOURCE ^^

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Mise à jour lenny - sid

2009-11-02 Thread Remi
Bonjour,

j'ai chez moi une Debian SID qui tourne plutot bien.
J'ai au travail une Debian Stable avec des bouts de SID pour quelques
paquets récents dont j'ai besoin.
J'aimerai cependant profiter des derniers packages de SID sur mon
poste de travail (notamment gnome 2.28), mais j'ai pas envie de tout
casser, vu que c'est la machine avec laquelle je bosse ;)

Hors, quand j'essaie de faire un aptitude full-upgrade, j'obtiens une
liste de paquets à supprimer assez conséquente, pareil pour les
paquets cassés, donc ça me refroidit un peu.

Voici le résultat de la commande (mis sur paste-bin car assez longue) :
http://debian.pastebin.com/m7ce922e9

Ce que je n'aime pas du tout c'est :

Remove the following packages:
gnome
gnome-desktop-environment
gnome-screensaver
xserver-xorg-video-all

D'après vous, que dois-je faire pour pouvoir migrer sur Debian SID
sans être sur de tout casser ? Est-ce normal de devoir supprimer
autant de paquets ?

Merci

Rémi

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Re: L'interface graphique ne se lance pas quand le portable est sur batterie.

2009-11-02 Thread Patrick Dos Santos

- VINZIO Maxime maxime.vin...@gmail.com a écrit :

 Bonjour à tous !
 
 Enchanté d'être parmis vous, c'est la première fois que je laisse un
 message sur cette liste pleine de sujets et problèmes interessants :).
 
 Voila, mon problème est dit, j'ai un ordinateur portable asus x56t
 equipé d'une ati radeon hd 3470. Je suis sous debian testing,
 J'ai installé le fglrx via le module assistant, tout marche très bien
 sauf quand j'essaye de démarrer sur batterie, (il me suffit de
 brancher le secteur pour que ça marche).
 
 Le serveur X me retourne alors ces erreurs :
 
 (...)
 
 (II) Loading PCS database from /etc/ati/amdpcsdb
 (WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID
 PCI:0...@1:5:0) found
 (--) Chipset Supported AMD Graphics Processor (0x95C4) found
 (WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID
 PCI:0...@0:17:0) found
 (WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID
 PCI:0...@0:18:0) found
 (WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID
 PCI:0...@0:18:1) found
 (WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID
 PCI:0...@0:18:2) found
 (WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID
 PCI:0...@0:19:0) found
 (WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID
 PCI:0...@0:19:1) found
 (WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID
 PCI:0...@0:19:2) found
 (WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID
 PCI:0...@0:20:0) found
 (WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID
 PCI:0...@0:20:1) found
 (WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID
 PCI:0...@0:20:2) found
 (WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID
 PCI:0...@0:20:3) found
 (WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID
 PCI:0...@0:20:4) found
 (WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID
 PCI:0...@0:20:5) found
 (WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID
 PCI:0...@2:0:1) found
 
 (...)
 
 (--) fglrx(0): Chipset: ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3400 Series (Chipset
 = 0x95c4)
 (--) fglrx(0): (PciSubVendor = 0x1043, PciSubDevice = 0x1875)
 (--) fglrx(0): board vendor info: third party graphics adapter - NOT
 original ATI
 (--) fglrx(0): Linear framebuffer (phys) at 0xd000
 (--) fglrx(0): MMIO registers at 0xfddf
 (--) fglrx(0): I/O port at 0xc000
 (==) fglrx(0): ROM-BIOS at 0x000c
 (II) fglrx(0): Battery is used
 (II) fglrx(0): Primary V_BIOS segment is: 0xc000
 (II) Loading sub module vbe
 (II) LoadModule: vbe
 (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules//libvbe.so
 (II) Module vbe: vendor=X.Org Foundation
 compiled for 1.6.5, module version = 1.1.0
 ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 5.0
 (II) fglrx(0): VESA BIOS detected
 (II) fglrx(0): VESA VBE Version 3.0
 (II) fglrx(0): VESA VBE Total Mem: 16384 kB
 (II) fglrx(0): VESA VBE OEM: ATI ATOMBIOS
 (II) fglrx(0): VESA VBE OEM Software Rev: 10.88
 (II) fglrx(0): VESA VBE OEM Vendor: (C) 1988-2005, ATI Technologies
 Inc.
 (II) fglrx(0): VESA VBE OEM Product: M82
 (II) fglrx(0): VESA VBE OEM Product Rev: 01.00
 (II) fglrx(0): ATI Video BIOS revision 9 or later detected
 (--) fglrx(0): Video RAM: 262144 kByte, Type: DDR2
 (II) fglrx(0): PCIE card detected
 (--) fglrx(0): Using per-process page tables (PPPT) as GART.
 (WW) fglrx(0): board is an unknown third party board, chipset is
 supported
 (II) fglrx(0): PCI bus 1 card 5 func 0
 (**) fglrx(0): Chipset: ATI Radeon HD 3200 Graphics  (Chipset =
 0x9612)
 (**) fglrx(0): (PciSubVendor = 0x1043, PciSubDevice = 0x1062)
 (**) fglrx(0): board vendor info: third party graphics adapter - NOT
 original ATI
 (--) fglrx(0): Linear framebuffer (phys) at 0xc000
 (--) fglrx(0): MMIO registers at 0xfdcf
 (--) fglrx(0): I/O port at 0xb000
 (==) fglrx(0): ROM-BIOS at 0x000c
 (II) fglrx(0): Battery is used
 
 Backtrace:
 0: /usr/bin/X(xorg_backtrace+0x26) [0x4ee056]
 1: /usr/bin/X(xf86SigHandler+0x39) [0x484199]
 2: /lib/libc.so.6 [0x7f16ac11bdb0]
 3:
 /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//fglrx_drv.so(atiddxDriverEntPriv+0x1)
 [0x7f16aa6becc1]
 4:
 /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//fglrx_drv.so(swlDalHelperGetLowVoltState+0x18)
 [0x7f16aa6e80d8]
 5:
 /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//fglrx_drv.so(swlAcpiGetAcState+0x13c)
 [0x7f16aa6fe63c]
 6: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//fglrx_drv.so(swlAcpiInit+0xcd)
 [0x7f16aa6feb9d]
 7: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//fglrx_drv.so [0x7f16aa6c6049]
 8: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//fglrx_drv.so(atiddxPreInit+0x1878)
 [0x7f16aa6c0cd8]
 9: /usr/bin/X(InitOutput+0xd7c) [0x46debc]
 10: /usr/bin/X(main+0x200) [0x4331d0]
 11: /lib/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0xe6) [0x7f16ac1085c6]
 12: /usr/bin/X [0x432819]
 
 Fatal server error:
 Caught signal 11. Server aborting
 
 Je ne sais quoi faire, même un X -configure sur batterie me renvoit
 ces erreurs.
 
 Voici mon xorg.conf, assez épuré : il a été généré par un aticonfig
 --initial (un X -configure renvoit les mêmes erreurs qu'il soit
 branché sur batterie ou non):
 
 
 Section ServerLayout
 

Re: L'interface graphique ne se lance pas quand le portable est sur batterie.

2009-11-02 Thread Patrick Dos Santos

 - VINZIO Maxime maxime.vin...@gmail.com a écrit :
 
  Bonjour à tous !
  
  Enchanté d'être parmis vous, c'est la première fois que je laisse
 un
  message sur cette liste pleine de sujets et problèmes interessants
 :).
  
  Voila, mon problème est dit, j'ai un ordinateur portable asus x56t
  equipé d'une ati radeon hd 3470. Je suis sous debian testing,
  J'ai installé le fglrx via le module assistant, tout marche très
 bien
  sauf quand j'essaye de démarrer sur batterie, (il me suffit de
  brancher le secteur pour que ça marche).
  
  Le serveur X me retourne alors ces erreurs :
  
  (...)
  
  (II) Loading PCS database from /etc/ati/amdpcsdb
  (WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID
  PCI:0...@1:5:0) found
  (--) Chipset Supported AMD Graphics Processor (0x95C4) found
  (WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID
  PCI:0...@0:17:0) found
  (WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID
  PCI:0...@0:18:0) found
  (WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID
  PCI:0...@0:18:1) found
  (WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID
  PCI:0...@0:18:2) found
  (WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID
  PCI:0...@0:19:0) found
  (WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID
  PCI:0...@0:19:1) found
  (WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID
  PCI:0...@0:19:2) found
  (WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID
  PCI:0...@0:20:0) found
  (WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID
  PCI:0...@0:20:1) found
  (WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID
  PCI:0...@0:20:2) found
  (WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID
  PCI:0...@0:20:3) found
  (WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID
  PCI:0...@0:20:4) found
  (WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID
  PCI:0...@0:20:5) found
  (WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID
  PCI:0...@2:0:1) found
  
  (...)
  
  (--) fglrx(0): Chipset: ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3400 Series
 (Chipset
  = 0x95c4)
  (--) fglrx(0): (PciSubVendor = 0x1043, PciSubDevice = 0x1875)
  (--) fglrx(0): board vendor info: third party graphics adapter -
 NOT
  original ATI
  (--) fglrx(0): Linear framebuffer (phys) at 0xd000
  (--) fglrx(0): MMIO registers at 0xfddf
  (--) fglrx(0): I/O port at 0xc000
  (==) fglrx(0): ROM-BIOS at 0x000c
  (II) fglrx(0): Battery is used
  (II) fglrx(0): Primary V_BIOS segment is: 0xc000
  (II) Loading sub module vbe
  (II) LoadModule: vbe
  (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules//libvbe.so
  (II) Module vbe: vendor=X.Org Foundation
  compiled for 1.6.5, module version = 1.1.0
  ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 5.0
  (II) fglrx(0): VESA BIOS detected
  (II) fglrx(0): VESA VBE Version 3.0
  (II) fglrx(0): VESA VBE Total Mem: 16384 kB
  (II) fglrx(0): VESA VBE OEM: ATI ATOMBIOS
  (II) fglrx(0): VESA VBE OEM Software Rev: 10.88
  (II) fglrx(0): VESA VBE OEM Vendor: (C) 1988-2005, ATI Technologies
  Inc.
  (II) fglrx(0): VESA VBE OEM Product: M82
  (II) fglrx(0): VESA VBE OEM Product Rev: 01.00
  (II) fglrx(0): ATI Video BIOS revision 9 or later detected
  (--) fglrx(0): Video RAM: 262144 kByte, Type: DDR2
  (II) fglrx(0): PCIE card detected
  (--) fglrx(0): Using per-process page tables (PPPT) as GART.
  (WW) fglrx(0): board is an unknown third party board, chipset is
  supported
  (II) fglrx(0): PCI bus 1 card 5 func 0
  (**) fglrx(0): Chipset: ATI Radeon HD 3200 Graphics  (Chipset =
  0x9612)
  (**) fglrx(0): (PciSubVendor = 0x1043, PciSubDevice = 0x1062)
  (**) fglrx(0): board vendor info: third party graphics adapter -
 NOT
  original ATI
  (--) fglrx(0): Linear framebuffer (phys) at 0xc000
  (--) fglrx(0): MMIO registers at 0xfdcf
  (--) fglrx(0): I/O port at 0xb000
  (==) fglrx(0): ROM-BIOS at 0x000c
  (II) fglrx(0): Battery is used
  
  Backtrace:
  0: /usr/bin/X(xorg_backtrace+0x26) [0x4ee056]
  1: /usr/bin/X(xf86SigHandler+0x39) [0x484199]
  2: /lib/libc.so.6 [0x7f16ac11bdb0]
  3:
 
 /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//fglrx_drv.so(atiddxDriverEntPriv+0x1)
  [0x7f16aa6becc1]
  4:
 
 /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//fglrx_drv.so(swlDalHelperGetLowVoltState+0x18)
  [0x7f16aa6e80d8]
  5:
 
 /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//fglrx_drv.so(swlAcpiGetAcState+0x13c)
  [0x7f16aa6fe63c]
  6: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//fglrx_drv.so(swlAcpiInit+0xcd)
  [0x7f16aa6feb9d]
  7: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//fglrx_drv.so [0x7f16aa6c6049]
  8:
 /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//fglrx_drv.so(atiddxPreInit+0x1878)
  [0x7f16aa6c0cd8]
  9: /usr/bin/X(InitOutput+0xd7c) [0x46debc]
  10: /usr/bin/X(main+0x200) [0x4331d0]
  11: /lib/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0xe6) [0x7f16ac1085c6]
  12: /usr/bin/X [0x432819]
  
  Fatal server error:
  Caught signal 11. Server aborting
  
  Je ne sais quoi faire, même un X -configure sur batterie me renvoit
  ces erreurs.
  
  Voici mon xorg.conf, assez épuré : il a été généré par un 

Re: L'interface graphique ne se lance pas quand le portable est sur batterie.

2009-11-02 Thread VINZIO Maxime

 A tu  laptop-detect d'installer ??


Il est installé et me retourne bien We're a laptop (dmidecode returned
Notebook)


Re: Configurer un modeline dans xorg

2009-11-02 Thread Sylvain Sauvage
’lut,

Goldy, samedi 31 octobre 2009, 19:37:07 CET
[…] 
 Mais le plus surprenant, c'est de voir qu'il n'est visiblement pas
 possible de mettre une résolution au pixel près, j'ai eu beaucoup de
 chance en réglant au pifomètre la résolution 1880*1010, mais j'ai
 remarqué qu'il était encore nécessaire de retirer 10 pixels environ à la
 largeur et en rajouter à la hauteur. Sauf que étrangement, si j'édite
 cette résolution, alors xorg refuse d'utiliser ce modeline.

  Au contraire, moi, ce qui m’étonne, c’est que l’on puisse
obtenir une définition qui ne soit pas standard…

  Pour plus d’explications, le plus simple serait d’aller sur la
liste Xorg (par là http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg/),
il y aura sûrement plus de connaissance et moins de devinette
qu’ici ou sur les fourms.

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Re: L'interface graphique ne se lance pas quand le portable est sur batterie.

2009-11-02 Thread Patrick Dos Santos

- VINZIO Maxime maxime.vin...@gmail.com a écrit :

 A tu laptop-detect d'installer ??
 
 
 Il est installé et me retourne bien We're a laptop (dmidecode
 returned Notebook)

Le désactiver devrait te permettre de pouvoir lancer X en mode batterie :)
Il doit y avoir une option a checker qui empêche le lancement de X pour 
économiser la batterie

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Re:[RESOLU] Rche CD netinstall avec un kernel ou 2.6.30 x64 --downgrade lenny64

2009-11-02 Thread yoda_testeur

Bonjour,
Re:[RESOLU] Recherche CD netinstall avec un kernel 2.6.29 ou 2.6.30 
x64 Recherche CD netinstall avec un kernel 2.6.29 ou 2.6.30 x64




Le 25/08/2009 23:49, thveillon.debian a Ă©crit :

yoda_testeur a Ă©crit :

Bonjour,
j'ai un PC portable de marque HP Elite 8530w
Le cd net install ave un kernel 2.6.26 se bloque et j'ai un Ă©cran 
noir.

J'ai testé ces 2 installateurs
cd net install 5.0.2 pour AMD64
cd net install testing AMD64

j'ai tenté une Parsix 3.0 test 1, mais hélas le kernel n'est pas 
récent

lui-non plus.

Pour le moment j'ai une Pardus 2009, (http://www.pardus-fr.org/) qui
inclus un 2.6.30.1 qui a trouvé tout les composant du pc
j'ai aussi utiliser un live Rescue system cd qui inclu un 2.6.29

J'e souhaite quand mĂŞme rester sous Debian, est-il possible de trouver
un cd net install avec un kernel recent ?
Dans unstable peut-ĂŞtre ?

merci pour vos lumière

yoda



LĂ :

http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/

utilisées il y a peu avec un portable... HP ;-)

Tom


Bonjour,

tu as des images journalières de Debian sur cette page :

http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/

Cordialement,

Rodolphe



Bonjour,
J'ai finalement attendu une Debian testing 86_x64 2.6.30-2-AMD64 (test 
ce jour datée du 02/11/2009)
afin que le portable puisse avoir sa Debian, (j'ai testée d'autres 
distribution en attendant passiament)

//
Ma question:
Est-il possible de remettre le fichiers sources.list d'une Lenny64 
sachant que je n'ai que le net-install _squeeze_
sur le disque dur avec le noyau 2.6.30-AMD64 (car je souhaite rester 
sous KDE 3.5.10)


merci

yoda
//

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Re: undefined

2009-11-02 Thread Gaëtan PERRIER
Le Fri, 30 Oct 2009 15:27:13 +0100
François Boisson user.anti-s...@maison.homelinux.net a écrit:

 Le Thu, 29 Oct 2009 20:50:05 +0100
 Thierry Chatelet tchate...@free.fr a écrit:
  
  Si je ne me trompe pas, ext3 garde 5% pour, je cois(?) la table de
  partition. $W les met dans une partition séparée, qu' l faut supprimer
  quand on passe de fat ou ntfs à un systeme linux.
 
 Non, il ne s'agit pas de 5% pour la table de partitions mais de 5% réservé à
 root, 5% que l'on peut supprimer via tune2fs -m 0 partition

Est-ce que ça veut dire que sur un disque où je n'ai que la partition /home je
peux supprimer ces 5% alloué à root ?

 Sinon il y a également les journaux d'ext3 qui prennent beaucoup de place.
 Mais là c'est avant tout formattage ou quoi que ce soit, seule la partition
 est crée (si j'ai bien compris, gparted formatte les partitions crées ou
 non?

Non avec gparted tu peux tout faire séparément ou tout d'un coup comme tu
veux. Moi je suis juste à l'étape où je supprime la partition et la recrée, je
n'ai pas encore choisit de système de fichier.

 Peut être faut il essayer avec fdisk, je n'ai jamais eu de soucis de ce
 genre). Si c'est vraiement un  souci de partitionnement différent suivant
 linux/windows, c'est surprenant.

Ça ne le fait pas avec toute les clés. J'en ai essayé une 3e et là tout est
cohérent. J'ai aussi analysé les MBR et entêtes de partition des clés en
question et il y a bien dedans des valeurs correspondant au formatage actuel.
Par ailleurs je sais pourquoi j'ai un warning de la part de gparted sur une
des clés (la plus petite). Ça semble du au fait qu'elle n'a pas de MBR.
Enfin quand je fais un dd if=/dev/sdX of=/tmp/cle il me lit 129499136 octets
soit bien 123,5 Mio. Je ne comprends donc pas d'où gparted sort 117.66Mio ...

Gaëtan

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Re: undefined

2009-11-02 Thread David Prévot
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Gaëtan PERRIER a écrit :
 Le Fri, 30 Oct 2009 15:27:13 +0100
 François Boisson user.anti-s...@maison.homelinux.net a écrit:

 Non, il ne s'agit pas de 5% pour la table de partitions mais de 5% réservé à
 root, 5% que l'on peut supprimer via tune2fs -m 0 partition
 
 Est-ce que ça veut dire que sur un disque où je n'ai que la partition /home je
 peux supprimer ces 5% alloué à root ?

Oui, sinon quand ton disque est plein à 95%, seul root a encore le droit
d'écrire. Cela est particulièrement intéressant pour le disque contenant
/var, et éventuellement / (ça dépend du partitionnement). Pour ma part
quand j'ai besoin de place sur d'autre partitions, j'annule le
pourcentage réservé à root avec la commande indiquée ci-dessous par
François.

Amicalement

David

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Re: próba instalacji debiana kończy się błędem

2009-11-02 Thread Andrzej Kosmala
Dnia pią, 30 paź 2009 o 10:20 GMT Marcin Owsiany porri...@debian.org 
napisał/a:
 Mam jeszcze parę pytań, może naiwnych, ale jak mówię dawno się tym nie
 bawiłem:

 On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 09:55:45AM +, Andrzej Kosmala wrote:
 md0 zdegradowana  /dev/sda1
 md1  /dev/hda7 /dev/hdc1
 md2  /dev/sda2 /dev/hdc3

 Takie konfiguracje macierzy miałeś już przed instalacją, czy takie
 chciałeś osiągnąć w czasie instalacji? Czy instalator pokazywał te
Tak było przed instalacją i partycję /dev/md2 zamierzałem wykorzystać jako
root filesystem. Program partycjonujący wyświetlał wszystko prawidłowo a więc
matryce i wchodzące w ich skład dyski. Dopiero po zmianie oznaczenia dysków
z fd na 83 wyświetlał same matryce bez dysków.
 macierze na etapie partycjonowania? Czy na każdej macierzy
 miałeś/chciałeś zrobić po jednym systemie plików, czy dodatkowo
 podzielić je na partycje? (nie wiem czy w lennym tak się da, ale kiedyś
 słyszałem że w w jakiejś redhatopodobnej dystrybucji tak można).


 Błąd zawsze pojawiał się przy partycjonowaniu dysków:
 1. 
 Jeśli wybrałem tylko jeden dysk to po zatwierdzeniu zmian przechodził do
 formatowania wskaźnik postępu na 52% i czekał.

 Tego fragment rozumiem tylko mniej więcej. Czy mógłbyś opisać krok po
 kroku co instalator pokazywał, a co Ty robiłeś, poczynając od wybrania
 podział dysków na partycje (czy jak to się tam nazywa) w main-menu?
zaznaczałem partykcję i wybierałem:
system plików ext3
formatować
zamontować jako /
potem coś o tym, że zakończono i ustawianie partycji i wracałem do menu
wyświetlające wszystkie dyski systemowe gdzie na dole było coś w stylu
zapisz zmiany i kontynuuj instalację.
 2.
 Jeśli chciałem zdefinować do użycia inne partycje to wskaźnik postępu
 pojawiał się natychmiast i komputer czekał.

 natychmiast to znaczy jeszcze przed zatwierdzeniem zmian?
Tak, przed zapisaniem zmian natychmiast po wybraniu następnej partycji.
 Czy przy instalacji po angielsku wygląd menu partycjonowania był taki
 sam jak przy polskim? Czy na przykład system pokazywał coś więcej?
Menu wyglądało zawsze tak samo.

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Re: próba instalacji debiana kończy się błędem

2009-11-02 Thread Wojciech Ziniewicz
W dniu 2 listopada 2009 10:15 użytkownik Andrzej Kosmala
kos...@cyberia.pl napisał:
[...]
Moze w momencie kiedy instalator stanie w miejsu, sprawdz liste
procesów na konsoli z shellem. Czesto ladnie tam widac jaki proces
zatrzymuje sie i na jakim problemie.

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Re: próba instalacji debiana kończy się błędem

2009-11-02 Thread TENEG - Tomasz Gołębiewski

Witam
Ja miałem problemy z instalacją różnych systemów jak miałem walniętą 
fabrycznie nową kość Kingston HyperX DDR2 1066 MHz.

Win7 zgłaszał mi
- a to uszkodzony dysk (zmieniłem RAID0 na RAID1 i się zainstalował ale 
nie chciał się odpalić)

- a to błąd CPU (Knoppix nie chciał wystartować)
- a to inne podobne symptopy..

Nie sprawdziłem podstawowej rzeczy jaką jest pamięć RAM. Memtest od razu 
zalał ekran czerwonymi komunikatami. Tak to jest jak się wierzy, że nowy 
sprzęt jest wolny od wad...


Wojciech Ziniewicz pisze:

W dniu 2 listopada 2009 10:15 użytkownik Andrzej Kosmala
kos...@cyberia.pl napisał:
[...]
Moze w momencie kiedy instalator stanie w miejsu, sprawdz liste
procesów na konsoli z shellem. Czesto ladnie tam widac jaki proces
zatrzymuje sie i na jakim problemie.

pozdr.



  


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Re: Versiones nuevas de soft en lenny

2009-11-02 Thread Victor Moral
On Friday 30 October 2009 15:17:52 Mario Daniel Carugno wrote:
 Uf, no sabia como escribir el Subject.
 El tema es asi, si quisiera instalar la ultima version de un programa
 en Lenny, puedo bajarme los fuentes y compilarlo.
 Pero en algunos casos, las versiones de las bibliotecas necesarias
 para compilar son tambien antiguas, y no sirven.
 Entonces, cual es la forma de actualizar bibliotecas en lenny ?
 Tengo que bajar los fuentes de las mismas y compilarlas ? Pueden
 convivir en el mismo sistema distintas versiones de
 una misma biblioteca ?

Yo tengo todos mis sistemas en estable y también me he visto en la 
necesidad 
de usar últimas versiones de algunos programas, como gramps y gnucash, y la 
manera menos disruptiva de hacerlo ha sido empleando chroot. En mi caso me ha 
bastado con emplear testing en un caso y sid en otro (vamos, sid al final en 
los dos, pero no comencé así), y con los montajes adecuados funcionan con 
facilidad y rapidez. Eso sí, es necesario mantener dos sistemas de paquetes, 
pero tampoco es demasiado molesto empleando algún pequeño script que otro.

Un buen sitio donde encontrar información de partida para ello es 
http://wiki.debian.org/chroot.

También es posible emplear LD_CONFIG en un programa envoltorio pero a 
mí me 
parece una solución innecesariamente compleja y difícil de mantener.

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Sobre como agregar texto al comienzo de cada linea con vim

2009-11-02 Thread adriancito

Hola Lista.

Luego de hacer un $ ls  lista tengo en el archivo lista el listado 
de cada uno de los archivos del directorio actual.


Estoy utilizando vi para editarlo, pero lo que no puedo hacer es 
agregar al principio de cada línea una frase en todo el archivo.


Utilizando el punto . para repetir la última acción, pero lo que no 
puedo es repetir de una sola vez esa frase al principio de cada linea en 
todo el archivo.


Podré hacer esto con vi?

Muchas Gracias.

Salu2.


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Re: Sobre como agregar texto al comienzo de cada linea con vim

2009-11-02 Thread Francisco Paniagua

adriancito escribió:

Hola Lista.

Luego de hacer un $ ls  lista tengo en el archivo lista el 
listado de cada uno de los archivos del directorio actual.


Estoy utilizando vi para editarlo, pero lo que no puedo hacer es 
agregar al principio de cada línea una frase en todo el archivo.


Utilizando el punto . para repetir la última acción, pero lo que no 
puedo es repetir de una sola vez esa frase al principio de cada linea 
en todo el archivo.


Podré hacer esto con vi?


Creo que lo mejor es que ulilices un pequeño script para generar eso

#!/bin/sh

linea=principio linea.

for i in `ls`
do
 echo $linea$i  lista
done

Con esto te añadirá al principio de cada linea lo que tú quieras, está 
pensado para que lo ejecutes desde dentro del directorio que intentas 
listar, si quieres utilizarlo desde otro sitio, basta con cambiar en el 
for la ruta de lo quieres listar.
Si por ejemplo lo que quieres listar está dentro de /home/usuario y el 
script lo quieres colocar en otro lugar bastaría con cambiar el for:


for i in `ls /home/usuario`


Saludos.


Muchas Gracias.

Salu2.





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Re: Sobre como agregar texto al comienzo de cada linea con vim

2009-11-02 Thread fernandojoseGmail
Francisco Paniagua wrote:
 adriancito escribió:
 Hola Lista.

 Luego de hacer un $ ls  lista tengo en el archivo lista el
 listado de cada uno de los archivos del directorio actual.

 Estoy utilizando vi para editarlo, pero lo que no puedo hacer es
 agregar al principio de cada línea una frase en todo el archivo.

 Utilizando el punto . para repetir la última acción, pero lo que no
 puedo es repetir de una sola vez esa frase al principio de cada linea
 en todo el archivo.

 Podré hacer esto con vi?

 Creo que lo mejor es que ulilices un pequeño script para generar eso
 
 #!/bin/sh
 
 linea=principio linea.
 
 for i in `ls`
 do
  echo $linea$i  lista
 done
 
 Con esto te añadirá al principio de cada linea lo que tú quieras, está
 pensado para que lo ejecutes desde dentro del directorio que intentas
 listar, si quieres utilizarlo desde otro sitio, basta con cambiar en el
 for la ruta de lo quieres listar.
 Si por ejemplo lo que quieres listar está dentro de /home/usuario y el
 script lo quieres colocar en otro lugar bastaría con cambiar el for:
 
 for i in `ls /home/usuario`
 
 
 Saludos.
 
 Muchas Gracias.

 Salu2.


 
 

Si quieres hacerlo con el vi, puedes buscar y reemplazar el fin de linea
\n por \ncadena. (man vi)

Saludos.


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Re: Sobre como agregar texto al comienzo de cada linea con vim

2009-11-02 Thread José Miguel Sánchez Alés
Estrictamente lo que quieres hacer en vim se hace así:


En modo comando escribes:

:%s:^:PRINCIPIO_LINEA:

Eso te añadirá la cadena PRINCIPIO_LINEA antes de todas las líneas
del documento. De todos modos no hacía falta recurrir al editor:
podías haberlo hecho directamente desde la línea de comandos, así:

$ ls -1 | while read L; do echo PRINCIPIO_LINEA$L; done  listado.txt

o bien:

$ for L in *; do echo PRINCIPIO_LINEA$L; done  listado.txt

Creo no haberme equivocado.


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Re: Consulta relativa a virtualizacion de apps

2009-11-02 Thread Federico Alberto Sayd

mrami...@iciuchile.cl escribió:

Sres.
Quizas es basica mi pregunta, pero si uds me orientan donde 
resolverla, les agradecere.


Donde trabajo tenemos problemas con el uso de software Windows 
licenciado. Se quiere dar uso, pero no se quiere pagar. Se que con 
herramientas Citrix (Xenapp) y otras como Go-Global de Graphon se 
puede hacer que una app instalada en un equipo, pueda ser ejecutada 
por otros usuarios distribuidos, en forma concurrente, pero solo se 
usa una licencia del software que es restringido. Ademas, tiene la 
virtud de que la aplicacion ademas optimiza su funcionamiento, pues 
solo se transmite las pantallas al usuario final. Ademas se puede 
guardar los archivos localmente en el usuario e incluso imprimir, y 
todo ejecutado en un servidor central, pero sus usuarios son remotos.


La pregunta es: existe herramienta similar en opensource, basada en 
Linux?


He visto por ahi soluciones de virtualizacion como Xen, pero no se si 
esa es lo que busco. Alguna idea? Por ejemplo, instalar MS Office u 
otro en una maquina, en forma licenciada para uso en ese equipo, pero 
que otros usuarios se conecten remotamente y en forma transparente 
este equipo y lo usen como si estuviera instalado en sus equipos locales?


Algun proyecto interesante que tenga que revisar para solucionar mi duda?

Saludos y gracias por la ayuda,

M.A.R.C.


No sé si es lo que buscas porque nunca he trabajado con Citrix, pero el 
servidor gráfico de Linux X.Org permite de forma nativa mostrar las 
aplicaciones que se ejecutan en un equipo en otro a través de la red. Si 
estás interesado en tener aplicaciones de un server Linux mostrandose en 
clientes Windows puedes usar Xming que solo te muestra la ventana de la 
aplicación Linux en tu escritorio Windows.


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Re: Sobre como agregar texto al comienzo de cada linea con vim

2009-11-02 Thread Mauricio J. Adonis C.
El lun, 02-11-2009 a las 12:40 +0100, Francisco Paniagua escribió:
 Creo que lo mejor es que ulilices un pequeño script para generar eso
 
 #!/bin/sh
 
 linea=principio linea.
 
 for i in `ls`
  do
   echo $linea$i  lista
  done 

Gracias, también me dio la idea para poder desinstalar una lista larga
de paquetes obsoletos que tenía y no sabía como hacerlo
automáticamente...

#!/bin/sh

#
# Desinstalar automáticamente un listado de paquetes
# --

for paquete in `cat lista_de_paquetes`
 do
  sudo aptitude --assume-yes purge $paquete
 done
 sudo aptitude clean

Supongo que se podrá hacer lo mismo de una mejor manera, pero funciona
bien...

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hola dudas con squid

2009-11-02 Thread jorgito
hola a la comunidad debian es la primera vez que hago una pregunta y me 
gustaria saber donde puedo hallar un tutorial desente sobre squid+iptables que 
sea potable jajajajajajajajajaa bueno es que estoy montando un servidor proxy y 
necesito un poco de informacion gracias

Re: Kvm, VirtualBox, Xen, ect., pero cual elegirl?

2009-11-02 Thread Pablo Jiménez
On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 08:45:33AM +0100, Angel L. Mateo wrote:
 El jue, 29-10-2009 a las 13:26 -0300, Pablo Jiménez escribió:
 
  Para eso existen los proyectos de instalación automatizada, deployment y
  monitoreo. Si siempre necesitas acceder a tus máquinas (virtuales o
  reales), es que no has planeado bien tu infraestructura de TI:
  
  http://www.infrastructures.org
  
   Eso es lo que quiero decir con que el xm se queda corto.

Entonces el problema no es de xm. xm es una buena herramienta, pero uno no
debe abordarla con la mentalidad de para un martillo, todo son clavos.
Por algo los alquimistas se gastaron la vida buscando la panacea y nunca la
encontraron...

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Re: Instalacion de Debian desde la Intranet

2009-11-02 Thread Pablo Jiménez
On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 12:10:53PM -0700, Carlos Lopez wrote:

 Pablo:
 
 Gracias por tu método, voy a probarlo.

Carlos:

Si tienes éxito con el procedimiento, compártelo con la lista. Más de
alguien se puede beneficiar con esa información.

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Re: Modificar Sistema debian

2009-11-02 Thread Pablo Jiménez
On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 11:35:44AM -0400, Walber Zaldivar Herrera wrote:
 Amaury Viera Hernández escribió:
 Hola a todos, quiero tomar un sistema Debian, previamente
 configurado con entorno gráfico y demás personalizaciones y
 brindar la posibilidad de instalar el sistema en cualquier
 computadora. Es algo parecido al remasterizado o lo mismo tal vez.
 He investigado y existen varias herramientas, ejemplo, el
 remastersys me permite crear un iso del sistema, y luego de
 quemado en un cd se puede ejecutar como DVD y además se puede
 instalar; es decir, al instalar el grub en el CD/DVD te da la
 posibilidad de probarlocomo una opción del Grub y la posibilidad
 de entrar a instalarlo como otra opción del Grub. En ubuntu
 funciona sin problemas, pero me interesa hacer esto para un
 sistema Debian y en Debian esta aplicación no da la posibilidad de
 instalar en el disco duro, sino de Live CD/DVD solamente. Conocen
 alguna herramienta para hacer este trabajo en Debian?
 
 
 Te recomiendo que leas sobre Debian Blends. Aca en Cuba estuvimos un
 grupo de socios trabajando en SiXdeb un proyecto **personal** para
 facilitar el uso de Debian en Cuba. Los dos objetivos principales
 del proyecto eran crear Blends de Debian para las condiciones reales
 de Cuba (maquinas viejas, poca ram, etc) y facilitar la información
 para que cualquiera en Cuba pudiera hacer su propio Blend de Debian
 segun sus necesidades. Pero a falta de tiempo y con la muerte
 (aparentemente sin resurrección) de softwarelibre.cu el proyecto
 esta super parado :(, de todos modos no se me ha quitado la idea de
 la cabezota ;)
 
 Te dejo un enlace
 
 http://wiki.debian.org/DebianPureBlends

Hola:

Me parece que el requerimiento de Amaury, más que el uso de Blends, huele a
que necesita un sistema de instalación que le permita preconfigurar ciertos
valores (configuración de las aplicaciones, paquetes seleccionados y
otros). Lo más conveniente en ese caso, es que te valgas del Preseeding que
permite el Debian-Installer:

http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/apb.html.en

Otro sitio interesante al respecto (aunque ya algo viejo) es:

http://www.infrastructures.org

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Re: Servidores

2009-11-02 Thread Pablo Jiménez
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 09:55:10AM -0300, Mauricio J. Adonis C. wrote:
 El lun, 26-10-2009 a las 13:25 -0500, Amaury Viera Hernández escribió:
  Pero, lo has probado en Debian?
  porque para Debian solo te crea un iso que sirve como live cd, más
  nada, 
  y el objetivo es crear además un sistema que sea instalable
 
 Se puede hacer lo mismo en Debian (crear un live Cd instalable),
 siguiendo ciertas instrucciones específicas...
 
 http://www.geekconnection.org/remastersys/debian.html

Si necesitas quemar un DVD por cada una de las instalaciones que tienes,
implica un gasto de recursos extra. La solución más adecuada es valerse de
un servidor de instalación, que permita boot (TFTP, PXEboot), tenga
disponible los parámetros de configuración (Preseeding por FTP/HTTP) y
contar con un mirror de Debian, para realizar la instalación por red.
Si a eso le agregar un sistema para la gestión de configuraciones
(cfengine, puppet u otros), te facilitarás la vida enormemente.

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Re: hola dudas con squid

2009-11-02 Thread Leonel Hernández Grandela

El 02/11/2009 9:18, jorgito escribió:
hola a la comunidad debian es la primera vez que hago una pregunta y 
me gustaria saber donde puedo hallar un tutorial desente sobre 
squid+iptables que sea potable jajajajajajajajajaa bueno es que estoy 
montando un servidor proxy y necesito un poco de informacion gracias
te comento que yo era fan al iptable spero me pase al firehol y es 
barbaro te lo recomiendo ;) .. saludos ..


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Re: hola dudas con squid

2009-11-02 Thread haldrik
El día 2 de noviembre de 2009 17:42, Leonel Hernández Grandela
maxpa...@filialfcm.ssp.sld.cu escribió:
 El 02/11/2009 9:18, jorgito escribió:

 hola a la comunidad debian es la primera vez que hago una pregunta y me
 gustaria saber donde puedo hallar un tutorial desente sobre squid+iptables
 que sea potable jajajajajajajajajaa bueno es que estoy montando un servidor
 proxy y necesito un poco de informacion gracias

 te comento que yo era fan al iptable spero me pase al firehol y es barbaro
 te lo recomiendo ;) .. saludos ..

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No conozco un squid portable, tampoco iptables ya que hace parte de los
programas que están en /sbin, osea que es parte del sistema. Aunque se
supone  que las reglas que apliques las puedes llevar a cualquier parte.
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Imposibilidad de usar el driver privativo «fglrx» de ATI con núcleo 2.6.30

2009-11-02 Thread dayer
Queridos listeros,

he tenido que volver a echar mano de una antigua tarjeta gráfica. Una
ATI 9600. Pero mi sorpresa ha sido que no he conseguido tener
aceleración gráfica ni con el driver de la web de ATI, ni con el
privativo de los de los paquetes de Debian ni con el driver libre
«ati».

- Con el de la web de ATI, la versión 9.3 a la que me manda cuando le
indico el modelo de tarjeta, me da el siguiente error nada más lanzar
el instalador:

Error: ./default_policy.sh does not support version
default:v2:x86_64:lib32::none:2.6.30-2-amd64; make sure that the
version is being
correctly set by --iscurrentdistro

Removing temporary directory: fglrx-install.vZdx1o

- Con el privativo por paquetes la instalación parece funcionar sin
problema, tanto los paquetes como luego el module-assistant, pero a la
hora de cargar el módulo obtengo las siguientes líneas y no se carga:

fglrx: module license 'Proprietary. (C) 2002 - ATI Technologies,
Starnberg, GERMANY' taints kernel.
Disabling lock debugging due to kernel taint
[fglrx] Maximum main memory to use for locked dma buffers: 2812 MBytes.
[fglrx:drm_alloc] *ERROR* [driver] Allocating 0 bytes
[fglrx:firegl_init_device_list] *ERROR* Out of memory when allocating
device heads
[fglrx:firegl_init_module] *ERROR* firegl_init_devices failed

- Con el driver libre no consigo arrancar las X con una resolución
mayor de 640x480 pixel a pesar de que se lo indique en el archivo
/etc/X11/xorg.conf

Así que finalmente he optado por borrar el archivo xorg.conf y dejar
que las propias X se auto-configuren al arrancarse, que al menos logro
una resolución cómoda a 1280x1024 pixel a pesar de que cuando ejecuto
glxinfo obtenga:

name of display: :0.0
Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display :0.0.
Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display :0.0.
Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display :0.0.
Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display :0.0.
Violación de segmento

Pero al menos puedo darle al equipo un uso normal. ¿Alguien conoce un
arreglo al fallo que dan los drivers privativos? Según tengo entendido
es porque las versiones recientes ya no dan soporte para mi tarjeta
gráfica y las antiguas no son compatibles con los núcleos modernos.
Vamos, que a usar el libre y punto. Pero la gente de esta lista es muy
sabia y lo mismo alguien conoce alguna solución para que pueda seguir
jugando al X-Plane.

Un saludo y perdón por la superexplicación.

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Re: hola dudas con squid

2009-11-02 Thread Juan Lavieri

Hola.

Leonel Hernández Grandela escribió:

El 02/11/2009 9:18, jorgito escribió:
hola a la comunidad debian es la primera vez que hago una pregunta y 
me gustaria saber donde puedo hallar un tutorial desente sobre 
squid+iptables que sea potable jajajajajajajajajaa bueno es que estoy 
montando un servidor proxy y necesito un poco de informacion gracias
te comento que yo era fan al iptable spero me pase al firehol y es 
barbaro te lo recomiendo ;) .. saludos ..



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Re: hola dudas con squid

2009-11-02 Thread Freddy Taborda
El día 2 de noviembre de 2009 21:28, Juan Lavieri jlavi...@gmail.com escribió:
 Hola.

 Leonel Hernández Grandela escribió:

 El 02/11/2009 9:18, jorgito escribió:

 hola a la comunidad debian es la primera vez que hago una pregunta y me
 gustaria saber donde puedo hallar un tutorial desente sobre squid+iptables
 que sea potable jajajajajajajajajaa bueno es que estoy montando un servidor
 proxy y necesito un poco de informacion gracias

 te comento que yo era fan al iptable spero me pase al firehol y es barbaro
 te lo recomiendo ;) .. saludos ..

 y ¿Qué crees que hay detrás del firehol?  http://firehol.sourceforge.net

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Rapido y sencillo Squid + Shorewall.

Es muy facil, revisa la documentacion de shirewall.net, y el squid
esta full documentado en el arhivo de configuracion, de igual manera
si no le llegas avisas.

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Re: hola dudas con squid

2009-11-02 Thread Leonel Hernández Grandela

El 02/11/2009 20:58, Juan Lavieri escribió:

Hola.

Leonel Hernández Grandela escribió:

El 02/11/2009 9:18, jorgito escribió:
hola a la comunidad debian es la primera vez que hago una pregunta y 
me gustaria saber donde puedo hallar un tutorial desente sobre 
squid+iptables que sea potable jajajajajajajajajaa bueno es que 
estoy montando un servidor proxy y necesito un poco de informacion 
gracias
te comento que yo era fan al iptable spero me pase al firehol y es 
barbaro te lo recomiendo ;) .. saludos ..



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squid portable no creo que haya ninguno saludos ..

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Re: hola dudas con squid

2009-11-02 Thread Marcos Delgado
El día 2 de noviembre de 2009 17:43, haldrik hald...@gmail.com escribió:
 El día 2 de noviembre de 2009 17:42, Leonel Hernández Grandela
 maxpa...@filialfcm.ssp.sld.cu escribió:
 El 02/11/2009 9:18, jorgito escribió:

 hola a la comunidad debian es la primera vez que hago una pregunta y me
 gustaria saber donde puedo hallar un tutorial desente sobre squid+iptables
 que sea potable jajajajajajajajajaa bueno es que estoy montando un servidor
 proxy y necesito un poco de informacion gracias

 te comento que yo era fan al iptable spero me pase al firehol y es barbaro
 te lo recomiendo ;) .. saludos ..

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 No conozco un squid portable, tampoco iptables ya que hace parte de los
 programas que están en /sbin, osea que es parte del sistema. Aunque se
 supone  que las reglas que apliques las puedes llevar a cualquier parte.
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potable != portable

Potable quiere decir bebible:
http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agua_potable
Manera coloquial de pedir una lectura fácil de entender.

Saludos.
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impressora instalada em win xp e cliente linux

2009-11-02 Thread Márcio Pedroso
estou usando uma impressora instalada no windows xp professional(mal
necessario), e uso no meu pc conectado a rede o debian squeeze, e nao
consigo fazer imprimir de jeito nenhum. a impressora em questao é uma
officejet 4335. o que acontece é o seguinte configurei para imprimir via
samba(pacote do samba instalado) usando o cups.. mando imprimir uma pagina
teste, ou qualquer outra.. ele me informa que o pacote foi enviado com
sucesso, a impressora começa a trabalhar e fica nisso.. observei que na
janela da impressora mostra que tem  um trabalho imprimindo mas aonde
informa a quantidade de paginas monstra N/D e fica parado nos 64kb da
pagina de teste que ele acusa ter 2.45Mb. o meu printer.conf
Printer officejet
Info hp officejet 4335
Location pc01
MakeModel HP Officejet 4300 Series hpijs, 3.9.4b
DeviceURI smb://10.1.1.4/HPOffice
State Idle
StateTime 1256875688
Type 8425484
Filter application/vnd.cups-raw 0 -
Filter application/vnd.cups-postscript 100 foomatic-rip
Filter application/vnd.cups-pdf 0 foomatic-rip
Accepting Yes
Shared No
JobSheets none none
QuotaPeriod 0
PageLimit 0
KLimit 0
OpPolicy default
ErrorPolicy stop-printer
/Printer

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Re: Linguagem de programação

2009-11-02 Thread Marcelo de Assis
Bianchi,

Trabalho com PHP e digo que aprendi as malicias da linguagem com muita
facilidade. Sempre fui acostumado com paradigmas mas próximos do
C/C++.
Na minha opinião o PHP é uma linguagem de desenvolvimento rápido, sem
muitas restrições. Pode ser usada de forma robusta ou de forma mais
infantil - isso vai depender de quem está desenvolvendo.

PHP é extensível a praticamente todos os sistemas de banco de dados -
até hoje usei apenas MySQL, PostgreSQL e Oracle.
http://br.php.net/manual/en/refs.database.vendors.php

Como você disse, as aplicações em java são mais bonitas pois os
programadores em java geralmente são mais maduros. O mercado está
saturado de programadores PHP. Atualmente, estou começando a mexer com
JSF - plataforma web mais moderna do java.


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Re: Compiz sem borda da janela no Gnome

2009-11-02 Thread Sávio M. Ramos
Em Sat, 31 Oct 2009 10:55:58 -0200
Mateus Kern mateus.k...@gmail.com escreveu:

 # apt-get install compiz compiz-gnome compizconfig-settings-manager
 libcompizconfig-backend-gconf compiz-fusion-*

Lendo informações estendidas de estado... Pronto
Inicializando estados de pacotes... Pronto
Não foi possível encontrar nenhum pacote cujo nome ou descrição combinasse com 
libcompizconfig-backend-gconf
Não foi possível encontrar nenhum pacote cujo nome ou descrição combinasse com 
compiz-fusion-*
Não foi possível encontrar nenhum pacote cujo nome ou descrição combinasse com 
libcompizconfig-backend-gconf
Não foi possível encontrar nenhum pacote cujo nome ou descrição combinasse com 
compiz-fusion-*
Nenhum pacote será instalado, atualizado ou removido.


O que tenho instalado na máquina é:

aptitude search compiz
i   compiz   - gerenciador de janelas e 
de composição em OpenGL   
i   compiz-core  - OpenGL window and 
compositing manager  
v   compiz-core-abiversion-20090207  -  
  
p   compiz-dev   - gerenciador de janelas e 
composição em OpenGL - arquivos de
p   compiz-fusion-bcop   - Compiz Fusion option 
code generator
i   compiz-fusion-plugins-extra  - Compiz Fusion plugins - 
extra collection   
i   compiz-fusion-plugins-main   - Compiz Fusion plugins - 
main collection
p   compiz-fusion-plugins-unsupported- Compiz Fusion plugins - 
unsupported collection   
i   compiz-gnome - OpenGL window and 
compositing manager - GNOME window decora
i   compiz-gtk   - OpenGL window and 
compositing manager - Gtk window decorato
p   compiz-kde   - OpenGL window and 
compositing manager - KDE window decorato
i   compiz-plugins   - OpenGL window and 
compositing manager - plugins
i   compizconfig-backend-gconf   - Compiz Fusion 
configuration system - gconf backend 
p   compizconfig-backend-kconfig - Compiz Fusion 
configuration system - kconfig backend   
i   compizconfig-settings-manager- Compizconfig Settings 
Manager  
p   libcompizconfig-dev  - Configuration settings 
library for compiz-fusion - developm
i   libcompizconfig0 - Configuration settings 
library for compiz-fusion   
i   python-compizconfig  - Compizconfig bindings 
for python   

Sávio M Ramos
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Re: Compiz sem borda da janela no Gnome

2009-11-02 Thread Sávio M. Ramos
Em Sat, 31 Oct 2009 16:48:50 -0200
Flavio Alberto Lopes Soares flaviothun...@terra.com.br escreveu:

 a reinstalar o driver da NVidia (meu laptop usa uma GeForce Go7400).
 Verifique se não está ocorrendo nada parecido.

Minha placa é Intel...

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Re: diferenças entre i386 3 i486

2009-11-02 Thread Sinval Júnior
Isto é uma otimização feita no kernel do linux feito geralmente em todas
distribuição(ou manualmente quando se compila o kernel).

i386 - Processadores INTEL a partir do 386.
i468 - Processadores x86.
i686 - Pentium Pro/Celeron/Pentium II/Pentium III/Pentium 4


2009/10/30 Thiago Silveira Alexandre thsa...@gmail.com

 Senhores,
 Estou precisando de fontes que falem tecnicamente a respeito da diferença
 entre as plataformas i386 e i468, já procurei na net mas só acho coisas
 superficias. Alguém pode me ajudar?
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Re: Recommended Linux Backup

2009-11-02 Thread lrhorer
Tony Nelson wrote:

 On 09-11-01 02:01:18, lrhorer wrote:
  I don't see any mention of that venerable *nix utility, dump.
  Other than not looking like a mounted filesystem and possibly the
  sheer size of the data, dump should fulfill your requirements.
 
 I thought about dump, but I did notthink it would stop when a
 volume is full and prompt for another volume (at least not if the
 volume is a hard drive).
 
 dump normally stops when the media is full (see `man dump` for details
 and other options), and can either just pause or run a script.  I back
 up semi-manually to DVD via a temporary file, with this command:
 
 # dump -0 -L xxx -b 32 -B 4590200 -f /tmp/dvd /mnt/point
 
 -0  Full dump
 -L  Label
 -b  Blocksize
 -B  Set the size of the output tape
 -f  Output file

Well,OK.  Still, dar better suits my requirements.
  
  You'd certainly want to rotate between several dump sets for
  redundancy.
 
 No, I'm gong to be doing differential backups. The bckuip
 array added tot he offline storage is enough redundancy.
 
 Well, if you say so.

There is no such thing as too many backups, but yes, I have enough
redundancy.


  That would mean more hard drives.  It might make sense
  to also dump to DVDs, just to have a different failure mode.
 
 You're kidding,right?  Back up the data to more than 900 Dual
 Layer DVDs?  Admittedly they are cheap, but... no, thanks.
 
 It depends on the consequences of data loss.  If they are severe,
 there should have several live copies at different locations and
 providers or at least two offline copies, preferably one with

Then I would use multiple hard drive sets.  Hard drives cost as little
as $.073 per Gigabyte, can read and write upwards of 75 MB/sec, and can
store up to 2 TB (soon 3 TB) in a space 1 x 3.5 x 6.  By comparison,
DVDs cost about $.11 per Gigabyte, usually cannot read or write more
than 10 MB/sec, and take up easily 5 or 6 times the space per Terabyte.

 completely
 different failure modes.  On the other hand, if data loss is of little
 consequence, then sure, one copy is enough.

You aren't reading what I am writing, and are assuming much.  First of
all I already have at least TWO copies of all my data, even the least
significant.  Both of these copies are on fault tolerant RAID arrays. 
Secondly, any more than ordinarily important data is also backed up
with multi-generation copies on local hard drives.  All critical data
is stored in no fewer than four geographically diverse locations.  This
backup strategy will simply augment an already robust set of backups,
and provide geographic diversity for the individually less important
but massively voluminous videos on the arrays.


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Re: Disabling the timeout in Expect

2009-11-02 Thread lrhorer
Mike Ayers wrote:

 am writing a script which may need to sit and wait for many hours or
 even
 days for a response without timing out.  Barring some way to disable
 the timeout, what is the maximum value which can be set for the
 timeout?
 
 
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 check out
 http://oreilly.com/catalog/expect/chapter/ch03.html
 
 it looks like a timeout value of -1 will tell it to wait forever
 
 hope this helps

Thanks.  That link came up in Google every time I did a search, but I
could never get it to go beyond the first page.  I'm not sure why. 
From a vague memory, I did try setting the timeout to -1, but it didn't
seem to work.  The script still was bombing after a few seconds.  For
reasons not related to this issue, I have abandoned Expect for this
project.  I may come back to it just out of curiosity to find why and
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Re: No Shut Down... option in System menu

2009-11-02 Thread Merciadri Luca
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 Hello,

 I have no shut down... option in my System menu (I am using GNOME
 front-end). I am thus obliged to shut down using the terminal. How can
 I make these buttons appearing?

 Guess . . .

 Perhaps a permissions issue. That is, perhaps the user doesn't have
 the permissions necessary to shutdown and Gnome doesn't offer the
 option to such a user. What happens if you start you Gnome session as
 root? Do you have the shutdown option then?
I receive ``the administrator is not allowed to log in from this
screen.'' I am thus unable to log graphically in as root.

Very special...
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Re: No Shut Down... option in System menu

2009-11-02 Thread Jean-François Pirlet

 I receive ``the administrator is not allowed to log in from this
 screen.'' I am thus unable to log graphically in as root.

If you're trying to log in as root from gdm, this behaviour is normal.
You should log in as root from another console (tty1, for example), kill
GDM and then startx.

For the No shutdown problem, are you running stable? If not, did you
upgrade gnome-power-manager recently? This package has caused such
problems already.


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Re: CPU default frequency is at 75%

2009-11-02 Thread Merciadri Luca
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Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org writes:

 On Sat, 2009-09-19 at 10:45 +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote:

 However, the whole problem is that it does *not* automatically adjust
 the CPU freq, according to its load.

 cpufreqd installed?
Thanks, Paul: I had to install cpufreqd. It now works as desired.

(Sorry for my late answer.)

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Re: CPU default frequency is at 75%

2009-11-02 Thread Merciadri Luca
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Tixy debianu...@tixy.myzen.co.uk writes:

 On Sat, 2009-09-19 at 10:45 +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote:
 However, the whole problem is that it does *not* automatically adjust
 the CPU freq, according to its load.

 When doing some video transcoding a while ago, on a Lenny install, I
 noticed that it was using 100% CPU time with the CPU running at only
 1/3rd of its maximum frequency - this was with it set to 'on demand'.

 Changing the process 'niceness' to less than zero made the CPU crank up
 to full speed and the video transcoding doubled in speed. So its
 possible that 'on demand' also means 'but only if you're not too
 nice' :-)
I can feel the difference too, now that I use it conjointly with
cpufreqd. Thanks.
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Re: CPU default frequency is at 75%

2009-11-02 Thread Merciadri Luca
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Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org writes:

 On Fri, 2009-09-18 at 12:10 +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote:

 I am using GNOME with Debian Lenny, with a 2.6.26-2-686 kernel. I have
 added to one of my panels the GNOME's default CPU scaling applet. It
 allows me to modify CPUs' frequency (not independently, as I have 4
 CPUs on the same machine) easily.

 What's the default applet?  I'm not familiar, I chose the laptop task
 and didn't get it.
I do not know the name of the default applet, but it is a built-in in GNOME.

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Re: No Shut Down... option in System menu

2009-11-02 Thread Merciadri Luca
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Jean-François Pirlet jf.deb...@gmail.com writes:

 I receive ``the administrator is not allowed to log in from this
 screen.'' I am thus unable to log graphically in as root.

 If you're trying to log in as root from gdm, this behaviour is normal.
 You should log in as root from another console (tty1, for example), kill
 GDM and then startx.

 For the No shutdown problem, are you running stable? If not, did you
 upgrade gnome-power-manager recently? This package has caused such
 problems already.
Jean-François, I am running stable. I did not upgrade gnome-power
manager recently. When logging as you ask me to do, I have a
``shutdown'' button, yes.
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Tgz Backups

2009-11-02 Thread Merciadri Luca
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Hi,

I often backup everything of my Debian systems with the tgz utility.

Is it possible to boot a LiveCD, to put the whole content of the tgz
(assuming it is complete) on the partition (assuming there is enough
free space), and to reboot (assuming GRUB is okay)?

I would like to hear others' experience about this.

Thanks.
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Reading from a .tgz takes a long long time

2009-11-02 Thread Merciadri Luca
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Hello folks,

I use tar to make (not necessarily incremental) backups of my /etc/*,
/home/*, and other important folders. I am encountering a problem:
reading a file in a .tgz takes a really long time. I use the
Archive Manager GUI (of GNOME) to go through all the folders of my
.tgz. My archive is ~5 Gigs.

For example, let's say that I want to read my old /etc/fstab in my
.tgz. It takes something like 10 min to open it. The external HDD
where the .tgz is saved is connected through USB2 (same problem with
firewire) and other tasks are performed in a reasonable amount of
time.

Any ideas?

Thanks.
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Re: Reading from a .tgz takes a long long time

2009-11-02 Thread Alexey Salmin
Since tgz is .tar.gz (a tar file compressed via gzip) there is no
surprise that it's slow to get a single file from it. The whole
tarball will be decompressed first and it's definitely expensive.
If you have enough space on your hdd you can store a plain tarball
instead of compressed file - that should work faster. It's also worth
splitting a single archive into multiple files. E.g. you can store
your /home in home.tgz and your /etc (which is small) in a separate
etc.tar file.

Alexey

On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 4:54 PM, Merciadri Luca
luca.mercia...@student.ulg.ac.be wrote:
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 Hello folks,

 I use tar to make (not necessarily incremental) backups of my /etc/*,
 /home/*, and other important folders. I am encountering a problem:
 reading a file in a .tgz takes a really long time. I use the
 Archive Manager GUI (of GNOME) to go through all the folders of my
 .tgz. My archive is ~5 Gigs.

 For example, let's say that I want to read my old /etc/fstab in my
 .tgz. It takes something like 10 min to open it. The external HDD
 where the .tgz is saved is connected through USB2 (same problem with
 firewire) and other tasks are performed in a reasonable amount of
 time.

 Any ideas?

 Thanks.
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Re: Tgz Backups

2009-11-02 Thread Alexey Salmin
What exactly do you want to get? A working system on a new partition
without the installation process?

Alexey

On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 4:58 PM, Merciadri Luca
luca.mercia...@student.ulg.ac.be wrote:
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 Hi,

 I often backup everything of my Debian systems with the tgz utility.

 Is it possible to boot a LiveCD, to put the whole content of the tgz
 (assuming it is complete) on the partition (assuming there is enough
 free space), and to reboot (assuming GRUB is okay)?

 I would like to hear others' experience about this.

 Thanks.
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increase usr partition

2009-11-02 Thread Roy Stuivenberg
Dear Debian fellows,

I would like to increase my /usr partition.
It's 5 gig and full.
Is this possible with gparted? because when I try .. device busy
Or is there a directory that I could empty?

Running Debian Lenny amd64.

Thanks in advance,
Regards,

Roy Stuivenberg.


Re: OT: Standards was Re: Does everything depend on everything?

2009-11-02 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
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John Hasler wrote:
 The difference is that US residents are still permitted the liberty of
 using the units with which they are comfortable rather than those which
 the all-knowing government imposes.
 
 Of course, units is always there to do the conversions for you...

Unfortunately units fails to convert any of my nice set of metric
allen wrenches to 3/64 inch. And that is the point of my signature. The
US system of units puts unnecessary barriers on trade and use of
hardware from other countries.

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Three nations have not officially adopted the International System
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Liberia, and the United States.

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Re: increase usr partition

2009-11-02 Thread Umarzuki Mochlis
2009/11/2 Roy Stuivenberg roys1...@gmail.com

 Dear Debian fellows,

 I would like to increase my /usr partition.
 It's 5 gig and full.
 Is this possible with gparted? because when I try .. device busy
 Or is there a directory that I could empty?



Could it be that partition is mounted when you're trying to resize it? Try
booting a live cd with gparted instead.


 Running Debian Lenny amd64.

 Thanks in advance,
 Regards,

 Roy Stuivenberg.




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Help, the template debian/rules is too simple

2009-11-02 Thread waixy zhou
hi,
I want to package the cross-complie tools for RTEMS(a realtime operation
used in embedded system), and use dh_make to generate the template of
debian/ directory, then i find the file *debian/rules* is too simple, just
3 lines left after eliminating the comments, as follows:
  #! /usr/bin/make -f
  %:
  dh   $@

This is very different from the ***Debian New Maintainers' Guide**. *This is
my first time to do package, so I am confused. How can I generate the
template debian/rules file containing the details as New Maintainers' Guide?
I do not want the cross-complie tools such as gcc/gdb mix up with my
host-complie tools. So I want to assign at least these complie options:
--prefix and --target. How can I do that?

Thanks.

Waixy


Re: Recommended Linux Backup

2009-11-02 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
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lrhorer wrote:
 You're kidding,right?  Back up the data to more than 900 Dual
 Layer DVDs?  Admittedly they are cheap, but... no, thanks.
 It depends on the consequences of data loss.  If they are severe,
 there should have several live copies at different locations and
 providers or at least two offline copies, preferably one with
 
 Then I would use multiple hard drive sets.  Hard drives cost as little
 as $.073 per Gigabyte, can read and write upwards of 75 MB/sec, and can
 store up to 2 TB (soon 3 TB) in a space 1 x 3.5 x 6.  By comparison,
 DVDs cost about $.11 per Gigabyte, usually cannot read or write more
 than 10 MB/sec, and take up easily 5 or 6 times the space per Terabyte.

... and DVDs can not be reused as often/reliably as hard disks.

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Liberia, and the United States.

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Re: PPP / ADSL / demand / GUI prompt question

2009-11-02 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi,

On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 08:15:25PM -0700, stephen...@yahoo.com wrote:
 --- On Sat, 10/31/09, Stan Hoeppner s...@hardwarefreak.com wrote:
  Maybe I missed something in a previous post.  If you
  don't have
  ethernet, then how are you connecting to the dsl
  modem?  USB?
 
 Yes USB to ADSL modem to POTS.  I think your suggestion of buying a
 router was still valid however, I found several recommendations to do
 this when I was Googling to find out how to get pon and poff working.
 However I was and am determined that I shouldn't need to buy any more
 hardware than Windows has needed, and I felt vindicated in this when I
 did get pon and poff working.

Assuming your USB-ADSL modem does not need funkey firmware binary
loaded, you may get this system working.

If your so called USB-ADSL modem is internally combination of
USB-ethernet adapter plus ADSL modem, you just need to enable
supporting kernel module for USB-ethernet adapter and use pppoeconf.

I guess you may need usbnet module.

http://www.linux-usb.org/usbnet/

Good luck.

Osamu

 With that I now have almost everything I want, so the case for buying
 more hardware is even weaker now than it was when I started out.  I
 could even put 'pon' in the initrc file (or whatever it's called these
 days), or perhaps in users' .profiles, so that nobody would need to
 type it explicitly.  However I would prefer to get the 'demand'
 feature working - since it is supposed to work, and it is cooler - and
 I also still like the idea of having a GUI dialog.  Maybe it's because
 I have used Windows for too long and have developed Stockholm
 syndrome, but I like the way it lets me see, and approve, connection
 attempts.

I do not understand what you mean but posting model number or doing
googling on it may help you.

Also, please read basics at

 http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch05.en.html

Osamu


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Re: Tgz Backups

2009-11-02 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Mon, Nov 02, 2009 at 11:58:07AM +0100, Merciadri Luca wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I often backup everything of my Debian systems with the tgz utility.
 
 Is it possible to boot a LiveCD, to put the whole content of the tgz
 (assuming it is complete) on the partition (assuming there is enough
 free space), and to reboot (assuming GRUB is okay)?
 
 I would like to hear others' experience about this.

I do not do this type of backup.

But I know these is specific tool to do what you wish.

 mondo http://packages.debian.org/sid/mondo

http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch10.en.html#_backup_utility_suites

Good luck.

Osamu

PS: You may wish to have grub-disk and create grub boot CD.



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Re: jre installation

2009-11-02 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, Nov 01, 2009 at 07:53:07PM +0100, roberto wrote:
 hello,
 i try to install geogebra using its .bin.sh script and i get the
 following message:
 
 
 Extracting the installation resources from the installer archive...
 Configuring the installer for this system's environment...
 No Java virtual machine could be found from your PATH
 environment variable.  You must install a VM prior to
 running this program.
 
 but i have already installed the package sun-java6-jre and its
 dependencies; so i cannot fix the problem by now;

maybe an explicit entry in your PATH to get it pointed directly at the
jvm would help. Also, you could look at the script and see how it's
detecting the java environment and then either tweak the script or
tweak the environment.

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Re: Help, the template debian/rules is too simple

2009-11-02 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Mon, Nov 02, 2009 at 08:25:01PM +0800, waixy zhou wrote:
 hi,
 I want to package the cross-complie tools for RTEMS(a realtime operation
 used in embedded system), and use dh_make to generate the template of
 debian/ directory, then i find the file *debian/rules* is too simple, just
 3 lines left after eliminating the comments, as follows:
   #! /usr/bin/make -f
   %:
   dh   $@

I have not used dh_make under squeeze recently ...  but I know lenny one
now comes with option to create package with cdbs.  This cdbs is not
covered by NM guide.
 
 This is very different from the ***Debian New Maintainers' Guide**. *This is
 my first time to do package, so I am confused. 

You should have answered differently to the question.

 How can I generate the
 template debian/rules file containing the details as New Maintainers' Guide?

Read:

$ man dh_make

 I do not want the cross-complie tools such as gcc/gdb mix up with my
 host-complie tools. So I want to assign at least these complie options:
 --prefix and --target. How can I do that?

I guess, if you have not created normal package, you are doing something
beyond your current skill.  You need to lean step by step.

Osamu


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Re: wifi

2009-11-02 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi,

On Sun, Nov 01, 2009 at 08:10:55PM -0500, peter bouchard wrote:
 Hello
 I am new to the debian scene and i have no idea how to get the wifi
 suport i have looked online and cannot find anything. if you could
 please send me a link to a site that has a tutorial or please send me
 one. thank you very much and i like your operating system very much
 thank you verey much

If you are thinking to get wifi working, use network-manager or wicd.

http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch05.en.html#_the_network_configuration_for_desktop

Since these package in lenny was not mature enough at the time of
release, you may find backported packages to be more useful.  

Osamu


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Re: Network manager doesn't autoconnect to wireless networks in stable?

2009-11-02 Thread chombee
Does no one know the answer to this? Is not reconnecting automatically 
the default behaviour of network manager in Debian 5 stable or am I the 
only one who has this behaviour?

On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 11:26:14PM +, chombee wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I've noticed that in Debian 5 network manager doesn't automatically 
 reconnect to wireless networks that it has connected to before, e.g. 
 after logging in, you have to use the mouse to tell the applet which 
 wireless network to connect to. I've been googling and looking through 
 the man files but I can't seem to find out why the behaviour is disabled 
 or how to re-enable it. Is there a way to enable network manager's usual 
 automatic reconnecting behaviour in Debian 5?
 
 Thanks
 
 
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Re: System logs are being logged to wrong files

2009-11-02 Thread P K
Hi,

NOTE: Kindly CC me when replying, I am not subscribed.

I picked up the reply from the list archive.

On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 02:15:19 +0200 Jari Fredriksson wrote:
 30.10.2009 22:56, P K kirjoitti:
  Hi,
 
  Kindly CC me when replying, I am not subscribed. Thanks. Now:
 
  I am using Debian/Sid (sidux actually) on a i686 machine. Over the
  past few months, I have seen various logs being logged to the wrong
  files, ie, they are being logged to the xyzlog.1 file instead of the
  xyzlog files. For example, consider the datestamps  sizes of the
  following files (obtained using [1], output edited):
 
  Modification Change   Size   Filename
  2009-10-30 14:59:14  2009-10-30 14:59:14  0 auth.log
  2009-10-30 16:43:18  2009-10-30 16:43:18  4901  auth.log.1
 
  As you can see from the size and timestamps:
  1. logs for auth, daemon, kern, syslog are sent to the wrong file (*.1)
  2. logs for dpkg, kdm, mail, user seems to be OK.
  Does anyone know what may be causing such a behavior? I can provide
  further information, as needed.

 This is just a wild guess, but it seems that your logger is keeping the
 files open, and it was not restarted when the logrotate named the logs
 again. Seems that the logger had auth.log open, and Linux just keeps
 writing to that file (INODE) no matter if the name was changed.


Thanks for the reply.
So, I assume this is not a common problem. Any ways to fix / or
further investigate this?

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Re: Network manager doesn't autoconnect to wireless networks in stable?

2009-11-02 Thread Patrick Wiseman
On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 10:44 AM, chombee chom...@lavabit.com wrote:
 Does no one know the answer to this? Is not reconnecting automatically
 the default behaviour of network manager in Debian 5 stable or am I the
 only one who has this behaviour?

 On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 11:26:14PM +, chombee wrote:
 Hi,

 I've noticed that in Debian 5 network manager doesn't automatically
 reconnect to wireless networks that it has connected to before, e.g.
 after logging in, you have to use the mouse to tell the applet which
 wireless network to connect to. I've been googling and looking through
 the man files but I can't seem to find out why the behaviour is disabled
 or how to re-enable it. Is there a way to enable network manager's usual
 automatic reconnecting behaviour in Debian 5?

Can't you right-click on the app and choose edit connections, and then
select any connection to which you wish to autoconnect?  (I'm on
testing, not stable, so maybe that's not an option for you.)

Patrick


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Re: Reading from a .tgz takes a long long time

2009-11-02 Thread Merciadri Luca
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Alexey Salmin alexey.sal...@gmail.com writes:

 Since tgz is .tar.gz (a tar file compressed via gzip) there is no
 surprise that it's slow to get a single file from it. The whole
 tarball will be decompressed first and it's definitely expensive.
 If you have enough space on your hdd you can store a plain tarball
 instead of compressed file - that should work faster. It's also worth
 splitting a single archive into multiple files. E.g. you can store
 your /home in home.tgz and your /etc (which is small) in a separate
 etc.tar file.
Thanks. I did not know this. I never used big .tgz before.
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Re: Tgz Backups

2009-11-02 Thread Merciadri Luca
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 What exactly do you want to get? A working system on a new partition
 without the installation process?
This looks like a lofty question. I would like to
* install the minimal system,
* use a LiveCD to complete some missing files.

Okay, it is clear that it is always better to install things with
installers, package managers, etc., but the only thing which would not
be done directly, when copying files manually, is the files' linking,
wouldn't it?


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Re: Tgz Backups

2009-11-02 Thread Merciadri Luca
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Osamu Aoki os...@debian.org writes:

 On Mon, Nov 02, 2009 at 11:58:07AM +0100, Merciadri Luca wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I often backup everything of my Debian systems with the tgz utility.
 
 Is it possible to boot a LiveCD, to put the whole content of the tgz
 (assuming it is complete) on the partition (assuming there is enough
 free space), and to reboot (assuming GRUB is okay)?
 
 I would like to hear others' experience about this.

 I do not do this type of backup.

 But I know these is specific tool to do what you wish.

  mondo http://packages.debian.org/sid/mondo

 http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch10.en.html#_backup_utility_suites

 Good luck.
Thanks, Osamu. I knew this tool, and it is pretty useful. My question
was about manual .tgz backups, but I keep your note.

Thanks.
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Re: Network manager doesn't autoconnect to wireless networks in stable?

2009-11-02 Thread Klistvud
Dne, 02. 11. 2009 16:44:55 je chombee napisal(a):
 Does no one know the answer to this? Is not reconnecting 
 automatically
 
 the default behaviour of network manager in Debian 5 stable or am I
 the 
 only one who has this behaviour?
 
 On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 11:26:14PM +, chombee wrote:
  Hi,
  
  I've noticed that in Debian 5 network manager doesn't automatically 
  reconnect to wireless networks that it has connected to before, 
 e.g.
 
  after logging in, you have to use the mouse to tell the applet 
 which
 
  wireless network to connect to. I've been googling and looking
 through 
  the man files but I can't seem to find out why the behaviour is
 disabled 
  or how to re-enable it. Is there a way to enable network manager's
 usual 
  automatic reconnecting behaviour in Debian 5?
  
  Thanks
  
  
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Actually, it does reconnect. Every once in a while, I have to select my 
network by hand (LEFT-clicking on the little network icon on the 
panel), but that's it. Maybe editing your Default Networks would 
help, as suggested by Patrick Wiseman?

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Re: a cautionary tale w/ successful recovery

2009-11-02 Thread Charles Kroeger
 I am truly grateful that I had
  good ones and the recovery went well.
 
For those of us not as Debian educated, you know like me who use Arno-iptables- 
firewall instead of Shorewall, I like Terabyte's image for Linux v.2. and if 
you're squeamish about paying a fee for this you can have the v.1.99 with less 
options for free. You can run it from its own partition or a CD as a boot disk 
for imaging any partition including the MBR on your choice of detachable or 
internal storage, the network version (v.2x) goes beyond the local host.

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Re: Re: xpdf printing with pdftops

2009-11-02 Thread Andreas Goesele

 gs -q -dSAFER -sDEVICE=pswrite -dFIXEDMEDIA -dPDFFitPage -sPAPERSIZE=a4 -o 
%pipe%lpr -
 
 Thanks for the suggestion. The first line works (more or less) on the command line, but gives the warning:


GPL Ghostscript 8.62:  Could not open the file lpr .

 (I say more or less, because an image isn't printed correctly but replaced by 
a blurry box.)



I would call that not working at all.



You are very strict ;-) or I didn't express myself very well:

Despite the warning the file is printed, just that additionally I get the 
warning and a non-essential image is
replaced by a blurry box.

The first variant:

cat test.pdf | gs -q -dSAFER -dNOPAUSE -dBATCH -sDEVICE=pswrite -dFIXEDMEDIA 
-dPDFFitPage -sPAPERSIZE=a4 -sOutputFile='%pipe%lpr' -

gives the same warning.

The second variant:

cat test.pdf | gs -q -dSAFER -dNOPAUSE -dBATCH -sDEVICE=pswrite -dFIXEDMEDIA 
-dPDFFitPage -sPAPERSIZE=a4 -sOutputFile=- - | lpr

works without warning (but still with the blurred box replacing the image).

Inside xpdf

gs -q -dSAFER -dNOPAUSE -dBATCH -sDEVICE=pswrite -dFIXEDMEDIA -dPDFFitPage 
-sPAPERSIZE=a4 -sOutputFile=- - | lpr

prints the page without warning, with the blurred box and unfortunately without 
expanding the page.

Thanks again

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Re: xpdf printing with pdftops

2009-11-02 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Mon, Nov 02, 2009 at 17:58:51 +0100, Andreas Goesele wrote:
  gs -q -dSAFER -sDEVICE=pswrite -dFIXEDMEDIA -dPDFFitPage -sPAPERSIZE=a4 
  -o %pipe%lpr -
   Thanks for the suggestion. The first line works (more or less)
 on the command line, but gives the warning:
 
 GPL Ghostscript 8.62:  Could not open the file lpr .

[...]

 Despite the warning the file is printed, just that additionally I get
 the warning and a non-essential image is replaced by a blurry box.

Is the page expanded to fit the paper?

 The first variant:
 
 cat test.pdf | gs -q -dSAFER -dNOPAUSE -dBATCH -sDEVICE=pswrite -dFIXEDMEDIA 
 -dPDFFitPage -sPAPERSIZE=a4 -sOutputFile='%pipe%lpr' -
 
 gives the same warning.
 
 The second variant:
 
 cat test.pdf | gs -q -dSAFER -dNOPAUSE -dBATCH -sDEVICE=pswrite -dFIXEDMEDIA 
 -dPDFFitPage -sPAPERSIZE=a4 -sOutputFile=- - | lpr
 
 works without warning (but still with the blurred box replacing the
 image).
 
 Inside xpdf
 
 gs -q -dSAFER -dNOPAUSE -dBATCH -sDEVICE=pswrite -dFIXEDMEDIA -dPDFFitPage 
 -sPAPERSIZE=a4 -sOutputFile=- - | lpr
 
 prints the page without warning, with the blurred box and
 unfortunately without expanding the page.

Hmm, I am starting to think that maybe we should try a different
approach. Which printing system do you use? CUPS, for example, has the
fitplot option which might do what you want, or e.g. scaling=95 to
scale the file to 95% of the page size. 

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Re: jre installation

2009-11-02 Thread roberto
On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 3:31 PM, Andrew Sackville-West
and...@farwestbilliards.com wrote:
 On Sun, Nov 01, 2009 at 07:53:07PM +0100, roberto wrote:
 hello,
 i try to install geogebra using its .bin.sh script and i get the
 following message:


 Extracting the installation resources from the installer archive...
 Configuring the installer for this system's environment...
 No Java virtual machine could be found from your PATH
 environment variable.  You must install a VM prior to
 running this program.

 but i have already installed the package sun-java6-jre and its
 dependencies; so i cannot fix the problem by now;

 maybe an explicit entry in your PATH to get it pointed directly at the
 jvm would help. Also, you could look at the script and see how it's
 detecting the java environment and then either tweak the script or
 tweak the environment.
i'd better tweak the environment:
can you (or anyone) past the the name of the variable to be defined in
the environment to enable the of the (already installed) jvm ?

moreover, i use currently other softwares which relies upon jvm and
they run smoothly !

i cannot figure out the problem
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apt-get does not resume downloading

2009-11-02 Thread Sthu Deus
Good day.

apt-get does not resume downloading - on bad connections it just starts 
downloading all over again. Is it fixable? How?

apt 0.7.20.2+lenny1

Thank You for Your time.


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Re: Does everything depend on everything?

2009-11-02 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Saturday 31 October 2009 12:55:36 Johannes Wiedersich wrote:
 Micha wrote:
  On 31/10/2009 16:06, Johannes Wiedersich wrote:
  I've been running 'lenny' on my workstations for some
  time and it works great.
 
  I also know people who still run windows 98 and it works great, it
  doesn't mean that it's the right desktop solution

 As I wrote, your mileage may vary and there can be valid reasons to use
 testing or sid on workstations. One of the is that the next stable
 version of workstation software will benefit from a larger number of
 testers.

 However, your claim that 'stable is not a right desktop solution' is an
 offence against our developers and the security team who put a lot of
 work and effort in releasing stable versions of gnome, kde, iceweasel to
 name a few -- and then continue their efforts and work on security
 updates for those workstation packages.

+1

 BTW, did I mention that lenny works great as a desktop system?

I agree, mostly.  I wanted to try out the latest-and-greatest KDE 4.2, so I've 
pulled them from the Squeeze repositories, but current stable is actually very 
good for desktop use.

Running Squeeze (and especially Sid) requires more knowledge than running 
Lenny, and (for me) the advantages are not that great.  Even fairly severe 
bugs in testing don't get always fixed until trickle-down from unstable, which 
means you'll want to run a mixed system anyway.  Either that or run pure 
unstable and have to fight dependencies during each transition (many of which 
happen during a release cycle).

By the time you have enough knowledge to run a mixed system and/or fight those 
dependencies, you might as well run stable for most software, which occasional 
installs out of testing/unstable/experimental for the new features you need or 
development you are following.

I recommend Debian stable for a computer you want to use for work or play, 
desktop or otherwise.  If you want to experiment with Debian, or if you just 
can't be satisfied with the software in the latest release, I recommend a 
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Wireless and the rate

2009-11-02 Thread Scurz
Hi,

My wireless key works almost fine. I just have a problem with the rate.
Here is the output from iwconfig :

wlan1 IEEE 802.11bg  ESSID:xx 
  Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.457 GHz  Access Point:
00:18:39:3A:21:4C  
  Bit Rate=11 Mb/s   Tx-Power=27 dBm  
  Retry min limit:7   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
  Encryption key:   Security mode:open
  Power Management:off
  Link Quality=63/70  Signal level=-47 dBm 
  Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
  Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0x

The bit rate is at 11 Mb/s but I download all files at 300 ko/s, not
more. The rate seems to be limited.

What to do ? If I do iwconfig wlan1 rate 54M, the connection freezes.

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Re: Does everything depend on everything?

2009-11-02 Thread Celejar
On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 13:38:55 -0600
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. b...@iguanasuicide.net wrote:

...

 system anyway.  Either that or run pure unstable and have to fight
 dependencies during each transition (many of which happen during a
 release cycle).
 
 By the time you have enough knowledge to run a mixed system and/or
 fight those dependencies, you might as well run stable for most
 software, which occasional installs out of
 testing/unstable/experimental for the new features you need or
 development you are following.

I'm not sure that I understand what you mean by 'fighting
dependencies'.  I run Sid, and while I occasionally have to hold back
a few packages, and can't always do a complete, full upgrade, it's
simply a matter of holding back a few packages until they get into sync
again; I certainly don't have the skill to do anything particularly
sophisticated with dependencies.

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Re: Help, the template debian/rules is too simple

2009-11-02 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Monday 02 November 2009 06:25:01 waixy zhou wrote:
 I use dh_make to generate the template of
 debian/ directory, then i find the file *debian/rules* is too simple,
 just 3 lines left after eliminating the comments, as follows:
   #! /usr/bin/make -f
   %:
   dh   $@

dh is so awesome now, that's all a lot of programs need.  I'm serious.

 This is very different from the ***Debian New Maintainers' Guide**. *This
 is my first time to do package, so I am confused. 

[...]

 I do not want the cross-complie tools such as gcc/gdb mix up with my
 host-complie tools. So I want to assign at least these complie options:
 --prefix and --target. How can I do that?

The wildcard is only used for targets without explicit commands.  If you need 
to do something unusual in a target you could always simply append your 
version of the target to the makefile.

I'm betting there's a document on the new dh features somewhere, but I don't 
know a link handy.  Have you checked the dh-* manpages from Sid?

Finally, you might get better help on packaging issues (i.e. making your own 
packages) on the debian-mentors mailing list.
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Cron authentication issues

2009-11-02 Thread Erik Lattimore
After moving to Lenny, we've had issues running cron jobs from non- 
local accounts.  We use kerberos and hesiod as our authentication  
infrastructure and cron isn't too happy with those types of accounts.   
This is what we see in /var/log/syslog:


Nov  2 13:41:01 so-much-for-subtlety CRON[21205]: Authentication  
service cannot retrieve authentication info
Nov  2 13:42:01 so-much-for-subtlety CRON[21295]: Authentication  
service cannot retrieve authentication info
Nov  2 13:43:01 so-much-for-subtlety CRON[21385]: Authentication  
service cannot retrieve authentication info
Nov  2 13:44:01 so-much-for-subtlety CRON[21476]: Authentication  
service cannot retrieve authentication info


This is for a cronjob that's set to run every minute.  Cronjobs that  
run as root work fine.  As a work-around, adding any entry to /etc/ 
shadow similar to this seems to fix the problem:


nightly:*:14410:0:9:7:::

Here's the contents of some of the relevant /etc/pam.d files:

# /etc/pam.d/common-account
account sufficient pam_krb5.so ignore_root
account required   pam_unix.so

# /etc/pam.d/common-auth
authsufficient pam_unix.so nullok_secure
authrequired   pam_krb5.so use_first_pass

# /etc/pam.d/common-login
sessionoptional pam_lastlog.so
sessionoptional pam_motd.so
sessionoptional pam_mail.so standard
sessionrequired pam_mkhomedir.so

# /etc/pam.d/common-password
password   required   pam_unix.so nullok obscure md5

# /etc/pam.d/common-password
session requiredpam_unix.so

# /etc/pam.d/cron
@include common-auth
auth   required   pam_env.so
@include common-account
@include common-session
# Sets up user limits, please define limits for cron tasks
# through /etc/security/limits.conf
sessionrequired   pam_limits.so



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Re: Wireless and the rate

2009-11-02 Thread Celejar
On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 20:46:03 +0100
Scurz sfan...@snurf.info wrote:

...

 The bit rate is at 11 Mb/s but I download all files at 300 ko/s, not
 more. The rate seems to be limited.

Is that KB/s or kb/s?  If the former, then we're talking something like
~2.5 mb/s, and from what I understand, the maximum practical throughput
of 11Mbps is anyway only about ~5.5 Mbps, and that's under ideal
conditions.

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Re: apt-get does not resume downloading

2009-11-02 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Monday 02 November 2009 12:36:22 Sthu Deus wrote:
 apt-get does not resume downloading - on bad connections it just starts
 downloading all over again.

It does resume downloading, just not in the middle of a single file.  (It will 
only download files that are missing.)  Resuming in the middle of a file has 
shown to be problematic and is not supported by all the mirrors anyway.  
Resuming in the middle of a file results in a file with a bad checksum more 
often than restarting the file entirely.
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Re: apt-get does not resume downloading

2009-11-02 Thread Celejar
On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 14:00:12 -0600
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. b...@iguanasuicide.net wrote:

 On Monday 02 November 2009 12:36:22 Sthu Deus wrote:
  apt-get does not resume downloading - on bad connections it just
  starts downloading all over again.
 
 It does resume downloading, just not in the middle of a single file.
 (It will only download files that are missing.)  Resuming in the
 middle of a file has shown to be problematic and is not supported by
 all the mirrors anyway. Resuming in the middle of a file results in a
 file with a bad checksum more often than restarting the file entirely.

But under some poor network conditions that I, and probably others,
have experienced, the current system renders it virtually impossible to
download large packages (e.g., openoffice.org-common, wesnoth-data),
while resuming would give us at least a fighting chance.  Perhaps a
user-configurable setting would make the most sense?

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Re: Wireless and the rate

2009-11-02 Thread Scurz
Celejar wrote:
 On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 20:46:03 +0100
 Scurz sfan...@snurf.info wrote:

 ...

   
 The bit rate is at 11 Mb/s but I download all files at 300 ko/s, not
 more. The rate seems to be limited.
 

 Is that KB/s or kb/s?  If the former, then we're talking something like
 ~2.5 mb/s, and from what I understand, the maximum practical throughput
 of 11Mbps is anyway only about ~5.5 Mbps, and that's under ideal
 conditions.

 Celejar
   

The 300 are in ko. (or = kb). But anyway, 11Mbps are different of the
300ko/s. How to remove the limit of the 300 ?


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Re: Does everything depend on everything?

2009-11-02 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Monday 02 November 2009 13:47:05 Celejar wrote:
 On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 13:38:55 -0600
 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. b...@iguanasuicide.net wrote:
  system anyway.  Either that or run pure unstable and have to fight
  dependencies during each transition (many of which happen during a
  release cycle).
 
  By the time you have enough knowledge to run a mixed system and/or
  fight those dependencies, you might as well run stable for most
  software, which occasional installs out of
  testing/unstable/experimental for the new features you need or
  development you are following.

 I'm not sure that I understand what you mean by 'fighting
 dependencies'.  I run Sid, and while I occasionally have to hold back
 a few packages, and can't always do a complete, full upgrade, it's
 simply a matter of holding back a few packages until they get into sync
 again; I certainly don't have the skill to do anything particularly
 sophisticated with dependencies.

That, among other things, is exactly what I mean by fighting dependencies.  
Sometimes I am not happy with a package that is held back, which calls for 
more dependency wrangling.  Downgrade or upgrade something else, de-install 
some software I'm not really using right now (like a Recommend or Suggest), 
satisfy an OR dependency with a different package, or some combination of the 
three.  Keeping the number of packages I pull from 
testing/unstable/experimental as minimal as possible results in more (aptitude 
safe-upgrade)s that just work.

Mixed systems are just as supported as running testing or unstable, which is 
to say, not officially.  IME, they result in a system with the advantages of 
both stable and unstable.
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Re: apt-get does not resume downloading

2009-11-02 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Monday 02 November 2009 14:01:20 Celejar wrote:
 On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 14:00:12 -0600
 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. b...@iguanasuicide.net wrote:
  On Monday 02 November 2009 12:36:22 Sthu Deus wrote:
   apt-get does not resume downloading - on bad connections it just
   starts downloading all over again.
 
  It does resume downloading, just not in the middle of a single file.
  (It will only download files that are missing.)  Resuming in the
  middle of a file has shown to be problematic and is not supported by
  all the mirrors anyway.

 But under some poor network conditions that I, and probably others,
 have experienced, the current system renders it virtually impossible to
 download large packages (e.g., openoffice.org-common, wesnoth-data),
 while resuming would give us at least a fighting chance.  Perhaps a
 user-configurable setting would make the most sense?

In this case, I suggest downloading the .deb using the tool of your choice to 
/var/cache/apt/archives.

I'm also not against a user-configurable option.  There may already be one, 
and I simply do not know of it.
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Re: jre installation

2009-11-02 Thread steef

roberto schreef:

On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 3:31 PM, Andrew Sackville-West
and...@farwestbilliards.com  wrote:
   

On Sun, Nov 01, 2009 at 07:53:07PM +0100, roberto wrote:
 

hello,
i try to install geogebra using its .bin.sh script and i get the
following message:

   

..
   


do something like:

@PATH=/home/u s e r/jXre1.y.z_0/bin:$PATH ./geogebra

that should do the trick.

steef


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Re: 2.6.31 kernels

2009-11-02 Thread Emanoil Kotsev
Dave Witbrodt wrote:

 My impression is that the kernel team considers 2.6.31 to have been a
 bit buggier than usual, but they are feeling better about 2.6.32 and
 plan to use it for Squeeze (when released).
 

I've just compiled and installed .31.5 (from kernel.org) and it seems my
notebook likes it.

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2.6.31 kernels

2009-11-02 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Emanoil Kotsev put forth on 11/2/2009 3:48 PM:
 Dave Witbrodt wrote:
 
 My impression is that the kernel team considers 2.6.31 to have been a
 bit buggier than usual, but they are feeling better about 2.6.32 and
 plan to use it for Squeeze (when released).

 
 I've just compiled and installed .31.5 (from kernel.org) and it seems my
 notebook likes it.

Running a customized (stripped) little 2.6.31.1 from kernel.org under
Lenny since Oct 3, on an old dual 550MHz i440BX board.  Fairly stripped
down install running a Postfix mail firewall and Lighty.  Been running
great, no issues.  I've probably got everything stripped out that was on
the kernel team's buggy list. ;)  My vmlinuz is only 1.1MB and all my
drivers (two--disk and NIC) are compiled in.  I actually went so far as
to strip module support completely out of the kernel.  No initramfs, no
this, no that.  Pretty lean and mean kernel.

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Re: 2.6.31 kernels

2009-11-02 Thread Emanoil Kotsev
Stan Hoeppner wrote:

 
 Running a customized (stripped) little 2.6.31.1 from kernel.org under
 Lenny since Oct 3, on an old dual 550MHz i440BX board.  Fairly stripped
 down install running a Postfix mail firewall and Lighty.  Been running
 great, no issues.  I've probably got everything stripped out that was on
 the kernel team's buggy list. ;)  My vmlinuz is only 1.1MB and all my
 drivers (two--disk and NIC) are compiled in.  I actually went so far as
 to strip module support completely out of the kernel.  No initramfs, no
 this, no that.  Pretty lean and mean kernel.
 
 --
 Stan

sounds cute. 

In fact I'm using the code from kernel org most of the time, because of the
exact same reason. Except stripping off a lot of code you don't need you
can optimize (fine tune) specifically for the machine you are using.

But back to the topic. The 2.6.30 line was really buggy :-) at least for me.
But this (2.6.31.5) seems to be useful.

I'm using it on a notebook Dell D520 (lenny).

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Re: Does everything depend on everything?

2009-11-02 Thread Jochen Schulz
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.:
 On Monday 02 November 2009 13:47:05 Celejar wrote:
 
 I'm not sure that I understand what you mean by 'fighting
 dependencies'.  I run Sid, and while I occasionally have to hold back
 a few packages, and can't always do a complete, full upgrade, it's
 simply a matter of holding back a few packages until they get into sync
 again; I certainly don't have the skill to do anything particularly
 sophisticated with dependencies.
 
 That, among other things, is exactly what I mean by fighting dependencies.  
 Sometimes I am not happy with a package that is held back, which calls for 
 more dependency wrangling.  Downgrade or upgrade something else, de-install 
 some software I'm not really using right now (like a Recommend or Suggest), 
 satisfy an OR dependency with a different package, or some combination of the 
 three.  Keeping the number of packages I pull from 
 testing/unstable/experimental as minimal as possible results in more 
 (aptitude 
 safe-upgrade)s that just work.

My sid safe-upgrades in sid usually just work. I am a long-time sid
user (5 years) and the current state (the LVM-Gnome problem) is a
rare exception. I don't recommend running sid, but to be honest, it
almost always runs smoothly on machines I update daily.

It's a different beast when you upgrade only once a month. I have a
seldomly used and therefore irregularly updated machine which suffers
from problems more often. But that may just be my misguided perception
because the machine has an nVidia card. ;-)

Another reason for my success may be the fact that in the past I most
often found it easier to reinstall on certain occasions (disk exchange,
re-partitioning) than to restore from a backup (which in turn may be due
to the fact that most of the time I don't have a recent backup). My
installations never get really old. Now I finally use LVM, so I hope
these special occasions happen less often. :)

 Mixed systems are just as supported as running testing or unstable, which 
 is 
 to say, not officially.  IME, they result in a system with the advantages of 
 both stable and unstable.

Running testing/unstable might not be supported, but that's what the
developers/maintainers are working at. If sid is broken, they fix it.

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Re: Does everything depend on everything?

2009-11-02 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Monday 02 November 2009 16:31:26 Jochen Schulz wrote:
 Another reason for my success may be the fact that in the past I most
 often found it easier to reinstall on certain occasions (disk exchange,
 re-partitioning) than to restore from a backup (which in turn may be due
 to the fact that most of the time I don't have a recent backup). My
 installations never get really old. Now I finally use LVM, so I hope
 these special occasions happen less often. :)

I didn't install Debian until a while after I was fed up with Gentoo.  So, my 
oldest install was originally Etch.  I virtually never reinstall unless I'm 
switching distros.  Upgrading openSUSE from 10.3 to 11.0 wasn't even 
supported, but I didn't even consider a re-install.

 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.:
  Mixed systems are just as supported as running testing or unstable,
  which is to say, not officially.  IME, they result in a system with the
  advantages of both stable and unstable.

 Running testing/unstable might not be supported, but that's what the
 developers/maintainers are working at. If sid is broken, they fix it.

You don't have to run unstable to be a maintainer.  Source packages should be 
compiled in a Sid environment before being sent to the buildds, but there's a 
lot of good ways to compile in a unstable environment without running 
unstable.  It's also suggested to use unstable's lintian most of the time, 
especially when (like now) it installs on stable or testing without any other 
package from testing/unstable.

You should test your package as much as possible, but if you don't have a 
running unstable installation, you do not have to test your package there.

The developers/maintainers also work on stable (RC bugs, e.g.) and that is the 
product they have agreed to provide official support for.

Of course, unstable is not meant to imply that repository is full of bugs.  It 
just means that it changes often.  Unfortunately, change it often the source 
of bugs, and I, most of the time, prefer older software that may be missing 
features (stable) rather than constantly fluctuating software that may or may 
not have the feature I need working today.

To all those out there that do, thanks for running testing or unstable.  The 
more bugs you find the better the stable release is for me. :)
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Re: HP G60-249WM Notebook overheats (on lenny)

2009-11-02 Thread Brian C. Wells
On Fri, 2009-10-30 at 21:05 -1000, Joel Roth wrote:
 On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 04:47:55PM -0700, Brian C. Wells wrote:
  Vacuuming brought the idle temperature down by 5C.  sauerbraten now runs
  great at about 80C, but glchess/gnuchess still gets up to 95C or more!
 
 You might look to see where the vents are located. I have my
 notebook up on spacers so that vents underside can get more 
 airflow.

The heat exhaust is near the bottom on the back of the laptop.  Intake
is on the bottom.  When I vacuumed, dust came out of the intake vents.
I already have spacers and a cooling pad underneath my laptop; I
mentioned this in the original post.

At this point, I don't think there is much that can be done to solve
this problem.  Others have said HP laptops have a reputation for
overheating, so I'll just have to remember that next time I'm buying.

Thanks,
Brian



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displays

2009-11-02 Thread John Lindsay

Greetings all

Is anyone running any of the following displays
1)Dell S199WFPV  19 wide
2)LG L226WTY 22' wide
3)LG L19WTY-BF 19 wide
4)Acer X223WBO  22' wide

I am currently running a Benq T904. Nothing wrong with it but for less 
the 1/2 what I originally paid for the Benq I can get one of the above. 
Also where can I find information as to what displays are supported 
under debian? I looked under System-preferences and admin but saw 
nothing that would tell me if the above monitors are supported.


Thanks

John


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Re: Re: xpdf printing with pdftops

2009-11-02 Thread Andreas Goesele

Despite the warning the file is printed, just that additionally I get
the warning and a non-essential image is replaced by a blurry box.



Is the page expanded to fit the paper?



On the command line, yes. Not in xpdf


Hmm, I am starting to think that maybe we should try a different
approach. Which printing system do you use? CUPS, for example, has the
fitplot option which might do what you want, or e.g. scaling=95 to
scale the file to 95% of the page size. 


I'm using CUPS. On the command line the option fitplot expands the size.

Inside xpdf it doesn't have any effect.

Regards

Andreas Gösele


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Re: displays

2009-11-02 Thread Dale
2009/11/3 John Lindsay jcl...@sentex.net:
 Greetings all

 Is anyone running any of the following displays
 1)Dell S199WFPV  19 wide
 2)LG L226WTY 22' wide
 3)LG L19WTY-BF 19 wide
 4)Acer X223WBO  22' wide

 I am currently running a Benq T904. Nothing wrong with it but for less the
 1/2 what I originally paid for the Benq I can get one of the above. Also
 where can I find information as to what displays are supported under debian?
 I looked under System-preferences and admin but saw nothing that would tell
 me if the above monitors are supported.

TBH, Displays are the least of your worries theses days.



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Re: 2.6.31 kernels

2009-11-02 Thread Alex Samad
On Mon, Nov 02, 2009 at 11:29:54PM +0100, Emanoil Kotsev wrote:
 Stan Hoeppner wrote:
 
  
  Running a customized (stripped) little 2.6.31.1 from kernel.org under
  Lenny since Oct 3, on an old dual 550MHz i440BX board.  Fairly stripped
  down install running a Postfix mail firewall and Lighty.  Been running
  great, no issues.  I've probably got everything stripped out that was on
  the kernel team's buggy list. ;)  My vmlinuz is only 1.1MB and all my
  drivers (two--disk and NIC) are compiled in.  I actually went so far as
  to strip module support completely out of the kernel.  No initramfs, no
  this, no that.  Pretty lean and mean kernel.
  
  --
  Stan
 
 sounds cute. 
 
 In fact I'm using the code from kernel org most of the time, because of the
 exact same reason. Except stripping off a lot of code you don't need you
 can optimize (fine tune) specifically for the machine you are using.
 
 But back to the topic. The 2.6.30 line was really buggy :-) at least for me.
 But this (2.6.31.5) seems to be useful.

isn't there some issue with the broadcom-sta drivers and .31 ?

 
 I'm using it on a notebook Dell D520 (lenny).
 
 regards
 
 

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Re: required packages for squeeze

2009-11-02 Thread tom stoddard
On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 7:19 PM, tom stoddard tomstodd...@gmail.com wrote:
 I use squeeze. Who became God and decided that I must have certain
 packages (nano, w3m, telnet, procmail, dhcp3-client, dhcp3-common and
 a slew of lib* packages related to DNS)? After letting the system
 install these packages ('cause I could not remember all the names and
 unselect them, you only get one pass to unselect them) they are all
 reported as installed even though I went through them and did a 'dpkg
 --purge package'



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Re: A laptop installation challenge

2009-11-02 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, Nov 01, 2009 at 11:16:55AM +, AG wrote:
[...]
 I'm thinking that the way forward would be via the GRUB prompt I was
 able to get off of an old floppy, but to do so would mean being able
 to by-pass LILO and boot into the first partition on the HD (/), and
 then go into LILO.conf and change it to accommodate the larger
 kernel or dispense with LILO in favour of GRUB.

if you have a grub prompt, you may be in luck. You can do quite a lot
from a grub prompt. YOu don't even need to know the contents of the
partitions to make it work because it will do tab completion for you
(depending on the version, I suppose, but I don't know) as well as find.

Probably you need to do something like 

root (hd0,1)
initrd /path/to/initrd
kernel /path/to/kernel kernel-opts here
boot

YOu'll probably have to play around with it, but on the assumption
that the *only* problem is the boot loader, any grub disk should get
you going. 

A


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Re: Help, the template debian/rules is too simple

2009-11-02 Thread waixy zhou
I admit what I'm doing is a little beyond my current skill, after all, I'm
just a user of Debian not a developer. But I think it is better using
apt/dpkg to manage the software/tools I need in my research than just using
./configure  make  make install. I prefer to use the ready-made
packages if there is any. I googled, but unfortunately I can't find any.

I find a way to solve the this issue by answering 'b' to the question asked
by dh_make, that is using cdbs, then setting the variables

DEB_CONFIGURE_EXTRA_FLAGS and DEB_CONFIGURE_PREFIX in debian/rules.

I am not sure weather this is the right way or the best way, but at
least it works.

Thanks anyway!

Waixy


2009/11/2 Osamu Aoki os...@debian.org

 On Mon, Nov 02, 2009 at 08:25:01PM +0800, waixy zhou wrote:
  hi,
  I want to package the cross-complie tools for RTEMS(a realtime operation
  used in embedded system), and use dh_make to generate the template of
  debian/ directory, then i find the file *debian/rules* is too simple,
 just
  3 lines left after eliminating the comments, as follows:
#! /usr/bin/make -f
%:
dh   $@

 I have not used dh_make under squeeze recently ...  but I know lenny one
 now comes with option to create package with cdbs.  This cdbs is not
 covered by NM guide.

  This is very different from the ***Debian New Maintainers' Guide**. *This
 is
  my first time to do package, so I am confused.

 You should have answered differently to the question.

  How can I generate the
  template debian/rules file containing the details as New Maintainers'
 Guide?

 Read:

 $ man dh_make

  I do not want the cross-complie tools such as gcc/gdb mix up with my
  host-complie tools. So I want to assign at least these complie options:
  --prefix and --target. How can I do that?

 I guess, if you have not created normal package, you are doing something
 beyond your current skill.  You need to lean step by step.

 Osamu



Re: Wireless and the rate

2009-11-02 Thread Sjoerd Hardeman
Scurz schreef:
 Celejar wrote:
 On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 20:46:03 +0100
 Scurz sfan...@snurf.info wrote:

 ...

   
 The bit rate is at 11 Mb/s but I download all files at 300 ko/s, not
 more. The rate seems to be limited.
 
 Is that KB/s or kb/s?  If the former, then we're talking something like
 ~2.5 mb/s, and from what I understand, the maximum practical throughput
 of 11Mbps is anyway only about ~5.5 Mbps, and that's under ideal
 conditions.

 Celejar
   
 
 The 300 are in ko. (or = kb). But anyway, 11Mbps are different of the
 300ko/s. How to remove the limit of the 300 ?
Are you sure it is your wireless that's at fault? Try a cable to see if
you get better rates. Else, it seems that you still have an old b-mode
(11 Mbit) card, or at least that the driver doesn't support more. If
that's the case, you'll have to buy a g or n-mode card for a better
throughput, trying to change that with iwconfig will not help.
What kind of wireless card do you have?

Sjoerd



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