Re: Don't drink and dupload ;-) ( Colla de sosos !!! ... i potser alguna sosa. #2 )

2010-06-21 Thread Orestes Mas
A Dilluns, 21 de juny de 2010 11:29:14, Lluís Gras va escriure:
 A veure !!!
 
 Hi ha una proposta sobre la taula per quedar, des de el 2007 que no ho fem,
 cruspir-se
 alguna cosa i fer-una cata del vinet de la DebConf9.
 
 http://www.cafe-libertad.de/shop/essen-trinken/wein-rum/debian-wein.html
 
 perquè casualment, disposem d'una capseta de sis unitats  i a les
 instruccions d'ús així ho específica.
 
 
 Getting started
 
 1. Gather a group of Debian wine lovers ( en això estem ... )
 2. Open the bottle, share de wine, share the software and if you're drunk
 enough, run for DPL!
 3. Profit.
 
 
 Please report bugs and sucess stories to v...@debian-comunity.org
 
 
 
 De moment només en Javier Silva i un servidor han donat senyals de birra,
 l'Eloi Notario estava atrafegat amb els codis d'estat HTTP i s'ha oblidat
 de dir si birrava o no birrava, ,potser per al cas millor si, vinava o no
 vinava ... i la resta?

Pensava que els meus senyals de vida comptaven com a mà alçada, però no devien 
ser prou evidents. Que el present missatge serveixi doncs com a mà alçada.

Tot dependrà de la data concreta, però vaja, no crec que tingui massa 
restriccions.

El divendres 2 de juliol es faran les IX jornades de programari lliure 
(http://www.jornadespl.org) després de les quals acostuma a haver-hi un sopar. 
Potser millor mirar de no coincidir, per si algú vol anar als dos 
esdeveniments.

Orestes.


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Archivage de Etch

2010-06-21 Thread Jean-Bernard Yata


Bonjour a tous,

Pour ceux qui ne suivent ni la liste des devel-annonces ni des mirroirs 
officiels, Etch passe en archive.


we will soon be moving etch from the main mirrors to archive.debian.org.
Security support for Etch ended in February 2010, and 4.0r9 was the final
roll-up release following this.

L'operation de deplacement vers le mirroir d'archive a été planifiée le 
dans la nuit du 20juin UTC. On y est donc.
Elle va disparaitre progressivement des differentes arborescences des 
mirroirs de production.


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Re: [testing] Iceweasel et correction orthograpique

2010-06-21 Thread Thomas Blein

Au passage, savez-vous s'il y a moyen de changer la langue du correcteur
orthographique à la volée ?



Si le dictionnaire de la langue concerné est installé, tu peux changer  
la langue de correction dans le menu contextuel du le champs de saisie  
(clique droit), il y a un sous menu Languages (Firefox en anglais...)


Amicalement,

Thomas

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Re: Désinstaller un paquet sans toucher aux dépend ances

2010-06-21 Thread Etienne CROMBEZ
Bonjour

Dans ce cas il faudra marquer les paquetages à conserver comme installés
manuellement.

 Et comment on fait ?

Dans aptitude, supprime gnome, passe à la fenêtre de résumé (en
pressant g une fois) tu devrais avoir au moins 2 groupes de paquets :

 paquets à enlever (1) qui contient gnome ; et
 Paquets qui vont être enlevé parce qu'ils ne sont plus utilisés (...)

au niveau de ce dernier groupe tapes + et tous les paquets seront noté
comme installé manuellement et tu pourras désinstaller gnome
tu devrais cependant prendre le temps de marquer toutes les librairies
comme installé automatiquement pour éviter des conflits
ultérieurement.
Je penses que si tu n'as pas installé de librairie manuellement tu
devrais toutes les mettre dans cet état en pressant M au niveau du
groupe libs de la fenêtre principale

Cordialement

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Re: [testing] Iceweasel et correction orthograpique

2010-06-21 Thread David Prévot
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Le 21/06/2010 04:26, Thomas Blein a écrit :
 Au passage, savez-vous s'il y a moyen de changer la langue du correcteur
 orthographique à la volée ?

 [...] le menu contextuel du le champs de saisie
 (clique droit), il y a un sous menu Languages (Firefox en anglais...)

\o/

Rhalala, je l'avais cherché presque partout sauf ici celui-là, merci
beaucoup !

Amicalement

David

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Flash et debian amd64

2010-06-21 Thread C. Mourad Jaber

Bonjour,

Ce n'est pas un troll, je précise...

J'ai des soucis de flash depuis que la 10.1 est sortie (mise à jour de 
flashplugin-nonfree), j'ai évidement vu que adobe a toujours autant de 
problème à produire un logiciel en 64bits.


J'ai supprimé flashplugin-nonfree et installé le .deb 32bits (frounis 
par adobe) avec le nspluginwrapper, mais j'ai le message suivant :

$ nspluginwrapper -i /usr/lib/adobe-flashplugin/libflashplayer.so
nspluginwrapper: no appropriate viewer found for 
/usr/lib/adobe-flashplugin/libflashplayer.so


Y'a-t-il quelque chose de particulier à faire pour permettre 
l'utilisation de cette version ?


Je ne trouve rien de récent sur le net concernant ce problème, tous les 
tuto ou le forums que je trouve sont très vieux (avant la v10 de flash) 
et ne concerne généralement pas debian :(


++

Mourad

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Re: [testing] Iceweasel et correction orthograpique

2010-06-21 Thread giggz
Le 21/06/2010 12:07, David Prévot a écrit :
 Le 21/06/2010 04:26, Thomas Blein a écrit :
 Au passage, savez-vous s'il y a moyen de changer la langue du correcteur
 orthographique à la volée ?
 
 [...] le menu contextuel du le champs de saisie
 (clique droit), il y a un sous menu Languages (Firefox en anglais...)
 
 \o/
 
 Rhalala, je l'avais cherché presque partout sauf ici celui-là, merci
 beaucoup !
 

pareil! enfin je sais comment on change ce put* de dico!

merci

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Re: Flash et debian amd64

2010-06-21 Thread Sylvain Sauvage
C. Mourad Jaber, lundi 21 juin 2010, 13:41:20 CEST
 
 Bonjour,

’soir,

 Ce n'est pas un troll, je précise...

  Mais non, même les DD en parlent 
(http://www.kirya.net/weblog/2010/06/19/my-experience-without-adobe%c2%ae-flash%e2%84%a2-player/
 ).

 J'ai des soucis de flash depuis que la 10.1 est sortie (mise à jour de 
 flashplugin-nonfree), j'ai évidement vu que adobe a toujours autant de 
 problème à produire un logiciel en 64bits.
 
 J'ai supprimé flashplugin-nonfree et installé le .deb 32bits (frounis 
 par adobe) avec le nspluginwrapper, mais j'ai le message suivant :
 $ nspluginwrapper -i /usr/lib/adobe-flashplugin/libflashplayer.so
 nspluginwrapper: no appropriate viewer found for 
 /usr/lib/adobe-flashplugin/libflashplayer.so

  Hmm, j’ai pris le tarball (qui ne contient en fait qu’un .so,
qu’y a-t-il d’autre dans le .deb ?) et collé le .so dans
/usr/local/lib…, et l’installation a fonctionné (j’ai d’abord eu
une erreur sur libnss3, celle-ci a disparu après l’installation
de ia32-libs-libnss3).

  Bon, ça c’est pour l’installation. Pour le flash dans les
navigateurs, c’est pas gagné : queue d’chi.

  Pff, ça fonctionnait pourtant bien avec le paquet spécial qui
existait quand Adobe n’avait pas encore sorti de version 64 bits…

  Du coup, j’ai essayé Gnash : fonctionne avec Iceweasel (pas
tout (vidéos → gel) mais j’ai mon http://www.orneryboy.com ) ;
en revanche, avec Konqueror/rekonq :
1. déjà, ne pas installer konqueror-plugin-gnash (dans
  about:plugins, il annonce prendre en charge la version 7
  seulement), de plus, si on a konqueror-nsplugin en parallèle,
  on récupère deux versions qui se marchent sur les pieds…
2. ça voudrait fonctionner mais les images/animations sont
  décalées…

 Y'a-t-il quelque chose de particulier à faire pour permettre 
 l'utilisation de cette version ?
 
 Je ne trouve rien de récent sur le net concernant ce problème, tous les 
 tuto ou le forums que je trouve sont très vieux (avant la v10 de flash) 
 et ne concerne généralement pas debian :(

  Itou.

  Pourvu qu’on ne soit pas obligés de revenir à un chroot
32 bits…

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Re: Flash et debian amd64

2010-06-21 Thread mahashakti89

On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 01:41:20PM +0200, C. Mourad Jaber wrote:


Bonjour,

Ce n'est pas un troll, je précise...

J'ai des soucis de flash depuis que la 10.1 est sortie (mise à jour 
de flashplugin-nonfree), j'ai évidement vu que adobe a toujours 
autant de problème à produire un logiciel en 64bits.


Bon, je vais peut-être raconter des bêtises mais j'ai viré
flashplugin-nonfree et remplacé par flashplayer-mozilla qui fonctionne
plutôt bien. J'ai manqué quelque chose ???


A+

mahashakti89


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Re: Flash et debian amd64

2010-06-21 Thread giggz
Le 21/06/2010 21:00, mahashakti89 a écrit :
 On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 01:41:20PM +0200, C. Mourad Jaber wrote:

 Bonjour,

 Ce n'est pas un troll, je précise...

 J'ai des soucis de flash depuis que la 10.1 est sortie (mise à jour de
 flashplugin-nonfree), j'ai évidement vu que adobe a toujours autant de
 problème à produire un logiciel en 64bits.
 
 Bon, je vais peut-être raconter des bêtises mais j'ai viré
 flashplugin-nonfree et remplacé par flashplayer-mozilla qui fonctionne
 plutôt bien. J'ai manqué quelque chose ???
 

t'es en 32bits ou en 64 bits ?

je crois que le flashplugin-nonfree installe le 32 sur le 32 et le 64
sur le 64. tandis que flashplayer-mozilla installe le 32 en chroot sur
le 64. je dis pitêtre des bêtises...à vérifier...

bye


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Pingwinaria-2010.

2010-06-21 Thread Krzysztof Zubik

Krzysztof Zubik pisze:
 Krzysztof Zubik pisze:
 Witam.
 Pragne powiedziec, ze od pewnego czasu trwaja zapisy na
 Pingwinaria-2010. O nich jak zwykle
 pod http://pingwinaria.linux.org.pl
 One beda od 15 do 18 kwietnia.(od 14 do 18 kwietnia 5-dniowe.)
 Miejsce tak jak poprzednio Osrodek Wypoczynkowy Zacisze w Spale.
 .
Witam.
Och juz od tej pieknej imprezy minelo kilka miesiecy.
Zapraszam do ogldania zdjec. One pod 
http://www.kzubik.cba.pl/pingwinaria-2010-1.html

Zycze Milego Ogladania. :) Moje filmy beda juz niedlugo.

Open Source jest dziś największym i najważniejszym nurtem w sektorze IT 
- albo dasz się ponieść na fali, albo utoniesz próbując płynąć pod prąd..

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realtek 8187

2010-06-21 Thread manolo manolo
Gracias Fernanado,

El problema que tengo no es de recepción, recibo un mogollon de señales. Lo
que no tengo es suficiente potencia para enviar, y pense que con esta
tarjeta lo solventaria. Pero, no ha sido asi y tengo que averiguar como es
que no envia lo suficiente si tiene 1 wat.

Saludos


Papelera en recurso Samba

2010-06-21 Thread Camaleón
Hola,

¿Sabéis si es posible configurar la papelera en un recurso de samba 
definiendo un tamaño determinado? ¿O si se se puede definir una 
configuración global para todos los recursos compartidos? ¿Existe 
documentación o alguna página de consulta?

Sería interesante poder configurarlo en algunos directorios, para que 
cuando los usuarios eliminen documentos, se almacenen ahí, en lugar de 
eliminarse directamente.

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RE: Papelera en recurso Samba

2010-06-21 Thread Angel Vicente
 Hola,
 
 ¿Sabéis si es posible configurar la papelera en un recurso de 
 samba definiendo un tamaño determinado? ¿O si se se puede 
 definir una configuración global para todos los recursos 
 compartidos? ¿Existe documentación o alguna página de consulta?
 
 Sería interesante poder configurarlo en algunos directorios, 
 para que cuando los usuarios eliminen documentos, se 
 almacenen ahí, en lugar de eliminarse directamente.

En smb.conf existe el parametro vfs objects, creo que con el se puede hacer,
pero va a nivel de share, no es global; es algo que tengo pendiente de
probar.


 
 Saludos,

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Re: Papelera en recurso Samba

2010-06-21 Thread Camaleón
El Mon, 21 Jun 2010 11:14:53 +0200, Angel Vicente escribió:

 ¿Sabéis si es posible configurar la papelera en un recurso de samba
 definiendo un tamaño determinado? ¿O si se se puede definir una
 configuración global para todos los recursos compartidos? ¿Existe
 documentación o alguna página de consulta?

 En smb.conf existe el parametro vfs objects, creo que con el se puede
 hacer, pero va a nivel de share, no es global; es algo que tengo
 pendiente de probar.

¡Bingo! :-)

http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/VFS.html#id2651247

Muchas gracias, tengo que investigarlo. 

Definiendo vfs objects = recycle ya funciona, pero me gustaría 
configurarlo un poco (básicamente los permisos del directorio y que no 
sea visible para los usuarios, son tan manazas que capaces son de 
eliminar no sólo los archivos originales sino también los de la papelera 
:-P).

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integrar y derivar en debian

2010-06-21 Thread islanis
hola amigos saben de alguna aplicacion parecida al derive de windows que 
me sirva en debian  para poder hacer mis integrales y mis derivadas de 
la universidad, se los agradesco a todos..



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Re: integrar y derivar en debian

2010-06-21 Thread Walber Zaldivar Herrera

islanis escribió:
hola amigos saben de alguna aplicacion parecida al derive de windows que 
me sirva en debian  para poder hacer mis integrales y mis derivadas de 
la universidad, se los agradesco a todos..




Si mal no recuerdo scilab es la respuesta, me parece que octave no lo 
hace pero tengo mis dudas


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Re: integrar y derivar en debian

2010-06-21 Thread Walber Zaldivar Herrera

De: Vicens Juan Tomas Montserrat

On 21/06/10 14:28, Walber Zaldivar Herrera wrote:
 islanis escribió:
 hola amigos saben de alguna aplicacion parecida al derive de windows
 que me sirva en debian  para poder hacer mis integrales y mis
 derivadas de la universidad, se los agradesco a todos..


 Si mal no recuerdo scilab es la respuesta, me parece que octave no lo
 hace pero tengo mis dudas

 s...@lu2 Walber


Yo uso maxima. También con GUI (wxmaxima).

Saludos!

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Re: respuesta lenta cuando resuelve dns no atribuible al mismo

2010-06-21 Thread Jorge A. Secreto
El 18 de junio de 2010 17:13, Odair Augusto Trujillo Orozco 
hald...@gmail.com escribió:

 El 18 de junio de 2010 13:59, Jorge A. Secreto
 jorgesecr...@gmail.com escribió:
 
 
  El 18 de junio de 2010 13:32, Odair Augusto Trujillo Orozco 
 hald...@gmail.com escribió:
 
  ...
 
El Wed, 16 Jun 2010 12:49:50 -0300, Jorge A. Secreto escribió:
   
 A ver si a alguien se le ocurre que puede estar pasando (o cómo
 tengo que buscar la solución):
 Tengo la pc conectada en una red con dos puertas de enlace. Una
 es un modem de speedy, routeado.
 Este modem es mi servidor DNS y mi puerta de enlace a internet.
 La otra es un Brazil-fw discando un modem de speedy, que a su
 vez, también es puerta de enlace a otra red.
 La cuestión es que si hago un ping (o trato de cargar la pagina
 en el navegador) a google o cualquier otro servidor hay una
 demora de no menos de 15 o 20 segundos, antes de que la empiece
 a cargar, o responder los ping. De hecho cada ping individual
 tarda menos de 1 segundo en volver, pero entre cada ping se
 vuelve a producir la demora. Si, en vez de buscar la dirección
 por URL pongo la dirección IP, las respuesta son inmediatas,
 siempre.
   ...
 
  Desactiva ipv6, busca en google como se hace y pruebas.
 
  Se lo desactivé al Iceweasel poniendo en true el parámetro
  network.dns.disableIPv6
  en el about:config y desapareció el retardo en el navegador. :-)
 
  Lo desactivé del sistema agregando
  install ipv6 /bin/true
  en /etc/modprobe.conf y el ping sigue igual. :-(
 
  Muchas gracias por el dato. parece que viene por ahí la mano. Aunque no
 se
  todavía porque el ping sigue sufriendo el retraso.
 
  Igual muchas gracias otra vez.
 
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 Hiciste esto para el sistema?

 editar /etc/sysctl.conf

 Y agregar al final la siguiente linea:

 net.ipv6.conf.all.disable_ipv6=1

 Reiniciar el equipo y voilá
 --


Sip, pero no deshabilitó el ipv6. Bueno, por lo menos el módulo se seguía
cargando.
Ahora no recuerdo si probé si se mantenía el retardo.
Mañana pruebo.
Muchas gracias por pensar en mi problema.



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Re: respuesta lenta cuando resuelve dns no atribuible al mismo

2010-06-21 Thread Jorge A. Secreto
perdon haldrik, por el privado

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Re: realtek 8187

2010-06-21 Thread Felix Perez
El día 21 de junio de 2010 04:36, manolo manolo chatman...@gmail.com escribió:
 Gracias Fernanado,

 El problema que tengo no es de recepción, recibo un mogollon de señales. Lo
 que no tengo es suficiente potencia para enviar, y pense que con esta
 tarjeta lo solventaria. Pero, no ha sido asi y tengo que averiguar como es
 que no envia lo suficiente si tiene 1 wat.

Deja de iniciar un nuevo hilo cada vez que te dirijas a la lista,
sigue respondiendo al correo que originalmente dio origen al tema.
Cuando quieras iniciar un nuevo tema ahí envias un nuevo correo.

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CUPS no funciona bien en debian testing

2010-06-21 Thread jEsuSdA 8)
Hola a todos,

Hace unas semanas se me ocurrió actualizar Cups a la última versión de Debian 
testing.

El caso es que, desde entonces, no logro imprimir en las impresoras remotas.

He quitado las impresoras y las he vuelto a añadir. Las locales van más o menos 
bien (a veces también se paran), las de 
red, se detectan automáticamente en el asistente (en Gnome, en KDE y vía CUPS 
web), pero al terminar de configurarlas, 
dan error y quedan inactivas.

MENSAJE DE ERROR: En pausa - /usr/lib/cups/backend/dnssd failed

Probando y probando, he logrado imprimir haciendo esto:

Solución cutre-provisional:

1 - /etc/init.d/avahi-daemon restart
2 - despausar la impresora desde cups
3- imprimir - entonces imprime, pero cups peta.
4- reiniciar cups


En el paso 3, si son pocas hojas, la impresion termina, pero sin son muchas, 
cups falla antes de terminar, de modo que 
hay que hacer el paso 4, el 1 y 2 de nuevo, entonces la impresión continúa 
donde se quedó.

Mis preguntas son:

- ¿Es cosa mía, o alguno de vosotros también ha experimentado fallos de este 
tipo con la nueva versión de Cups?
- ¿A alguien se le ocurre qué puedo hacer para solucionar este problema?


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Re: [OT] Teléfono USB para Ekiga

2010-06-21 Thread Camaleón
El Thu, 17 Jun 2010 09:14:52 -0500, Hector Garcia escribió:

 El día 17 de junio de 2010 09:04, Camaleón escribió:

 Pues muchas gracias de nuevo por probarlo :-)

 Al final he ido recopilando los datos que me habéis pasado todos y he
 comprado un headset de Plantronics, este modelo en concreto:

 Plantronics .Audio™ 626
 http://www.plantronics.com/europe_union/spa/products/computer/voip-
headsets/audio-626-dsp
 
 Muy buena eleccion, es básicamente lo mismo que te sugerí (Un DSP USB y
 una diadema), pero de aplicacion más domestica.

Y lo mejor de todo: funciona perfectamente :-)

Me ha llegado hoy mismo, lo he conectado a una Debian Lenny, el sistema 
lo ha detectado como:

[28126.895521] usb 1-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 2
[28127.706875] usb 1-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[28127.920373] usb 1-2: New USB device found, idVendor=047f, idProduct=c006
[28127.920373] usb 1-2: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0
[28127.920373] usb 1-2: Product: Plantronics .Audio 626 DSP
[28127.920373] usb 1-2: Manufacturer: Plantronics
[28128.094965] usbcore: registered new interface driver hiddev
[28128.166372] input: Plantronics Plantronics .Audio 626 DSP as 
/class/input/input6
[28128.202286] input,hiddev96,hidraw0: USB HID v1.00 Device [Plantronics 
Plantronics .Audio 626 DSP] on usb-:00:1a.0-2
[28128.327238] usbcore: registered new interface driver usbhid
[28128.327238] usbhid: v2.6:USB HID core driver
[28128.327238] usbcore: registered new interface driver snd-usb-audio

He iniciado Ekiga, y ahí estaba, listo para configurar como dispositivo 
de audio. He hecho la llamada de rigor (a un teléfono fijo) y se escucha 
(y me escuchan) muy bien.

Muchas gracias.

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Intel 82G33/G31 cuelga el sistema

2010-06-21 Thread Mario Daniel Carugno
Hola lista,

Estoy usando Sid y tengo esta placa de video, que funciona bien en general.
Pero a veces, cuando estoy viendo videos a pantallas completa o con
algun juego, tambien en pantalla completa, de repente la pantalla
queda negra y el sistema se cuelga por completo. Las luces del teclado
quedan fijas y no queda mas que reiniciar por las malas.

Alguna idea de que puede ser ? Tenia entendido que estas placas de
video tienen buen soporte, por lo que me extrañaria que el driver
tenga problemas.
Podra ser culpa de compiz, que tengo activado  ?

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Nueva en la lista

2010-06-21 Thread Beltza ...
Buenas tardes a t...@s,
Me llamo Beltza y soy nueva en la lista. Espero poder comentar cosillas con
vos...@s. Me he decidido a entrar en la lista, por un curso de programacion
de la shell bash que estoy haciendo con Debian 5.0.4.

Un saludo a t...@s


Re: Nueva en la lista

2010-06-21 Thread Liuber Hernández Leyva
On Monday 21 June 2010 20:48:06 Beltza ... wrote:
 Buenas tardes a t...@s,
 Me llamo Beltza y soy nueva en la lista. Espero poder comentar cosillas con
 vos...@s. Me he decidido a entrar en la lista, por un curso de programacion
 de la shell bash que estoy haciendo con Debian 5.0.4.

 Un saludo a t...@s

Sería muy bueno compartas documentación. 
me gustaria, tenerle a mano. 


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Re: Nueva en la lista

2010-06-21 Thread Camaleón
El Mon, 21 Jun 2010 19:48:06 +0100, Beltza ... escribió:

 Me llamo Beltza y soy nueva en la lista. Espero poder comentar cosillas
 con vos...@s. Me he decidido a entrar en la lista, por un curso de
 programacion de la shell bash que estoy haciendo con Debian 5.0.4.

Hola :-)

Espero que después del curso sigas con Debian :-P

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Re: Intel 82G33/G31 cuelga el sistema

2010-06-21 Thread Camaleón
El Mon, 21 Jun 2010 15:38:16 -0300, Mario Daniel Carugno escribió:

 Estoy usando Sid y tengo esta placa de video, que funciona bien en
 general. Pero a veces, cuando estoy viendo videos a pantallas completa o
 con algun juego, tambien en pantalla completa, de repente la pantalla
 queda negra y el sistema se cuelga por completo. Las luces del teclado
 quedan fijas y no queda mas que reiniciar por las malas.

Quizá sólo se quede colgado el servidor gráfico (las X). Cuando te pase, 
intenta acceder al equipo vía ssh a ver si te deja.
 
 Alguna idea de que puede ser ? Tenia entendido que estas placas de video
 tienen buen soporte, por lo que me extrañaria que el driver tenga
 problemas.

Bueno, las tarjetas gráficas Intel no son las mejores para ver vídeos a 
pantalla completa... ni tampoco el driver está muy fino últimamente :-/

 Podra ser culpa de compiz, que tengo activado  ?

Sí, podría ser. 

Lo más sencillo es que pruebes desactivando los efectos del escritorio 
para ir descartando culpables. Si te vuelve a pasar con Compiz 
desactivado, pues ya sabes que no se trata de eso :-)

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Re: Nueva en la lista

2010-06-21 Thread julio
El lun, 21-06-2010 a las 19:48 +0100, Beltza ... escribió:
 Me llamo Beltza y soy nueva en la lista

Pues bienvenida. Espero que te sirva de ayuda.

Un saludo

JulHer



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Re: Nueva en la lista

2010-06-21 Thread Gonzalo Rivero
El lun, 21-06-2010 a las 19:48 +0100, Beltza ... escribió:
 
 Buenas tardes a t...@s,
 Me llamo Beltza y soy nueva en la lista. Espero poder comentar
 cosillas con vos...@s. Me he decidido a entrar en la lista, por un
 curso de programacion de la shell bash que estoy haciendo con Debian
 5.0.4. 
 
 Un saludo a t...@s

holas 
para evitar que te salten al cuello cuando vayas a preguntar algo, y en
realidad para mantener un orden mínimo que nos ayude a ayudarnos, te
recomiendo leerte esto:
http://wiki.debian.org/NormasLista
y como usás gmail, si te manejás por el webmail al contestar un mensaje
fijate que tenés que cambiar el destinatario manualmente, además tiene
otros problemas, así que te recomiendo esto:
http://wiki.debian.org/Normas_Lista_Gmail

Sobre tu curso, o mas bien para el futuro cuando quieras hacer un script
y no tengas ganas de pensar xD , te recomiendo el Advanced Bash
Scripting Guide que básicamente es un montón de ejemplos:
http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/  (obviamente, como dicen en su primera
página, «la única manera de aprender a hacer scripts /de verdad/ es
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Re: Reinicio misterioso del servidor

2010-06-21 Thread Javier San Roman
El Viernes, 18 de Junio de 2010, kazabe escribió:
 Holas.
 
 Tengo un servidor que desde hace varias se esta reiniciando sin razon
 aparente.
 
 Tiene doble fuente de poder, ambas conectadas a la UPS.  La misma UPS
 sostiene otro debian, el cual no ha fallado en ningun momento.  Esto
 me hace descartar problemas con la UPS.
 
 He revisado hasta el cansancio todos los logs del servidor, los
 procesos, etc buscando algun indicio de reinicio, pero no encuentro
 nada.  Segun veo todos los registros relativos a las horas de los
 reinicios, muestran los logs como si se hubiera reiniciado por fallo
 electrico.
 
 Miren por ejemplo este fragmento del syslog.
 
 Jun 17 17:25:51 matero postfix/qmgr[3661]: D3C9E3A03E: removed
 Jun 17 17:25:52 matero postfix/smtp[2718]: 958033A06E:
 to=olymaahe3...@etb.net.co, relay=mx2.etb.n
 et.co[200.69.107.59]:25, delay=1.5, delays=0/0/1.4/0.11, dsn=5.0.0,
 status=bounced (host mx2.etb.net
 .co[200.69.107.59] said: 550 #5.1.0 Address rejected
 olymaahe3...@etb.net.co (in reply to RCPT TO co
 mmand))
 Jun 17 17:25:52 matero postfix/qmgr[3661]: 958033A06E: removed
 Jun 17 17:27:46 matero kernel: imklog 3.18.6, log source = /proc/kmsg
 started. Jun 17 17:27:46 matero rsyslogd: [origin software=rsyslogd
 swVersion=3.18.6 x-pid=3073 x-info=
 http://www.rsyslog.com;] restart
 Jun 17 17:27:46 matero kernel: [0.00] Initializing cgroup subsys
 cpuset Jun 17 17:27:46 matero kernel: [0.00] Initializing cgroup
 subsys cpu Jun 17 17:27:46 matero kernel: [0.00] Linux version
 2.6.26-1-xen-686 (Debian 2.6.26-13lenny2
 ) (da...@debian.org) (gcc version 4.1.3 20080704 (prerelease) (Debian
 4.1.2-25)) #1 SMP Fri Mar 13 2
 2:30:40 UTC 2009
 
 Como veran, a las 17:25:52 se estaba eliminando un mensaje de la cola
 de postfix y dos minutos despues, a las 17:27:46 el servidor estaba
 arrancando nuevamente.
 
 Todos los logs muestran la informacion similar.  Procesos normales, y
 luego, de la nada, procesos de arranque.
 
 He buscado en la BIOS del servidor si existe algun registro de
 problemas electricos, pero nada.
 
 El equipo se mantiene a temperatura promedio de 23 grados.
 
 Alguno de ustedes ha tenido un problema similar?

Si. Tuve que cambiar la placa madre.
También podría ser la fuente de alimentación, memoria o procesador..

 
 lo logro entender que puede estar pasando.
 
 Gracias de antemano por cualquier ayuda que me puedan facilitar.
 
 saludos
 
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 el universo y la estupidez humana... y no estoy muy seguro de la primera» :
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Re: Reinicio misterioso del servidor

2010-06-21 Thread David Reese

El 21/06/10 23:09, Javier San Roman escribió:

El Viernes, 18 de Junio de 2010, kazabe escribió:
   

Holas.

Tengo un servidor que desde hace varias se esta reiniciando sin razon
aparente.

Tiene doble fuente de poder, ambas conectadas a la UPS.  La misma UPS
sostiene otro debian, el cual no ha fallado en ningun momento.  Esto
me hace descartar problemas con la UPS.

He revisado hasta el cansancio todos los logs del servidor, los
procesos, etc buscando algun indicio de reinicio, pero no encuentro
nada.  Segun veo todos los registros relativos a las horas de los
reinicios, muestran los logs como si se hubiera reiniciado por fallo
electrico.

Miren por ejemplo este fragmento del syslog.

Jun 17 17:25:51 matero postfix/qmgr[3661]: D3C9E3A03E: removed
Jun 17 17:25:52 matero postfix/smtp[2718]: 958033A06E:
to=olymaahe3...@etb.net.co, relay=mx2.etb.n
et.co[200.69.107.59]:25, delay=1.5, delays=0/0/1.4/0.11, dsn=5.0.0,
status=bounced (host mx2.etb.net
.co[200.69.107.59] said: 550 #5.1.0 Address rejected
olymaahe3...@etb.net.co (in reply to RCPT TO co
mmand))
Jun 17 17:25:52 matero postfix/qmgr[3661]: 958033A06E: removed
Jun 17 17:27:46 matero kernel: imklog 3.18.6, log source = /proc/kmsg
started. Jun 17 17:27:46 matero rsyslogd: [origin software=rsyslogd
swVersion=3.18.6 x-pid=3073 x-info=
http://www.rsyslog.com;] restart
Jun 17 17:27:46 matero kernel: [0.00] Initializing cgroup subsys
cpuset Jun 17 17:27:46 matero kernel: [0.00] Initializing cgroup
subsys cpu Jun 17 17:27:46 matero kernel: [0.00] Linux version
2.6.26-1-xen-686 (Debian 2.6.26-13lenny2
) (da...@debian.org) (gcc version 4.1.3 20080704 (prerelease) (Debian
4.1.2-25)) #1 SMP Fri Mar 13 2
2:30:40 UTC 2009

Como veran, a las 17:25:52 se estaba eliminando un mensaje de la cola
de postfix y dos minutos despues, a las 17:27:46 el servidor estaba
arrancando nuevamente.

Todos los logs muestran la informacion similar.  Procesos normales, y
luego, de la nada, procesos de arranque.

He buscado en la BIOS del servidor si existe algun registro de
problemas electricos, pero nada.

El equipo se mantiene a temperatura promedio de 23 grados.

Alguno de ustedes ha tenido un problema similar?
 


Si. Tuve que cambiar la placa madre.
También podría ser la fuente de alimentación, memoria o procesador..

   
Yo tuve el mismo problema hace algun tiempo, se reiniciaba el server sin 
razon aparente y los logs limpios...
Pero no tardamos mucho en darnos cuenta que era la placa madre ya que a 
los 15 días más o menos se reinicio otra vez sin motivo, pero esta vez 
ya no pudo arrancar... y segun todas las verificaciones era causa de la 
placa madre, la cambiamos y todo normal nuevamente...

lo logro entender que puede estar pasando.

Gracias de antemano por cualquier ayuda que me puedan facilitar.

saludos

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el universo y la estupidez humana... y no estoy muy seguro de la primera» :
Albert Einstein
 



   




Zoom sin compiz

2010-06-21 Thread Juan Marcos Delgado Alcantar

Hola colis...@s.
He instado tcosmonitor y para mostrar a mis alumnos algún detalle de lo 
que estoy haciendo en pantalla quiero poder mostrarlo con un 
acercamiento, un zoom pues.
La opción con compiz me parece la más adecuada, pero compiz me parece 
pesado para mostrarlo por VNC, así que estoy buscando opciones.
Si alguien sabe de alguna de dichas opciones le agradeceré que lo comente.

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Re: w32codecs

2010-06-21 Thread Junior Polegato - Linux

Em 19-06-2010 18:55, Carlos Alberto escreveu:
Não encontro o w32codecs para lenny em nenhum repositorio, o que 
acontesse?


Olá,

Até onde eu sei, em 2007/2008 o MPlayer incorporou os codecs e 
vários outros programas fizeram a mesma coisa. O repositório oficial, eu 
acho, para multimídia no Debian é o www.debian-multimedia.org, lá mostra 
que tem o w32codecs para Etch [1] e já não tem mais para Lenny [2] e 
futuros [3,4].


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[1] http://www.debian-multimedia.org/dists/oldstable/main/binary-i386/
[2] http://www.debian-multimedia.org/dists/stable/main/binary-i386/
[3] http://www.debian-multimedia.org/dists/testing/main/binary-i386/
[4] http://www.debian-multimedia.org/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/


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software para videoconferência

2010-06-21 Thread Moksha Tux
Boa tarde Lista!

Estou a procura de um software para linux que participe de
videosconferências tipo um GUI assim como o Polycom PVX para o Windows, eu
preciso de um que funcione do mesmo jeito mas para o linux. Alguém conhece?
Obrigado,

Moksha


Re: O particionador não grava as modificações no disco

2010-06-21 Thread Bruno Schneider
2010/6/14 Paulino Kenji Sato escreveu:
 Pelo visto nenhum instalador esta funcionando a contento.
 Testing não formata;
 Unstable, via netinstall (190MB) particiona formata nas dão erros
 relacionados a não conseguir instalar os pacotes.
 :(
 Testados com imagens gerados no dia 14/07/2010.


Se alguém testar a imagem de hoje (21/JUN) do testing, por favor avise
se está boa.

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Re: Driver vídeo ATI RS780M

2010-06-21 Thread Joelias Júnior
Problema resolvido!

Para quem interessar a solução coloquei-a em meu blog:
http://joeliasjunior.blogspot.com/2010/06/placa-de-video-ati-rs780mrs780mn-no.html

2010/6/18 Joelias Júnior joeliasjun...@gmail.com

 Olá pessoal!

 Gostaria de ajuda com a instalação da minha placa de vídeo ATI. O Modelo
 dela é:
  ATI Technologies Inc RS780M/RS780MN [Radeon HD 3200 Graphics]

 Inicialmente instalei o driver fornecido pela própria ATI, fornecido nessa
 página:
 http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx

 A qualidade dos gráficos não ficou muito boa e o tempo de resposta um pouco
 lento.
 Então eu pesquisei mais e segui esta dica:

 http://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary

 Sequer funcionou... o X não conseguiu encontrar o módulo!

 Alguma sugestão???

 Desde já, obrigado!

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Re: Torrents killing my conection

2010-06-21 Thread Mark

 On 6/20/2010 11:30 PM, Huang, Tao wrote:


 no, we don't want download managers here.
 we are trying to isolate the cause of the problem.


Exactly.  I'm hoping his dvd download via Iceweasel fails, since that would
point directly to a driver issue.  If it succeeds, that means the problemo
is with the torrent software.


Re: Well, this is interesting... (was Re: Torrents killing my connection)

2010-06-21 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Du, 20 iun 10, 17:18:21, ABS Doug wrote:
 On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 3:59 AM, Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote:
 
  When someone sends you a direct email, the expectation is that you will
  send a direct reply.
 
 No problem. From now on, I'm hitting reply to all.

I think you misunderstood:
- private messages should be replied in private, even if you think it 
  was by mistake (can and does happen)
- list messages should stay on list, and only on list (no CCs unless 
  specifically requested)

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Re: Torrents killing my connection

2010-06-21 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Du, 20 iun 10, 00:41:29, Andrei Popescu wrote:
 On Sb, 19 iun 10, 02:02:17, ABS Doug wrote:
 
 [problems with torrents]
 
 If you're on wireless try a wired connection for a while.

Did you get to trying wired only?

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Re: Torrents killing my connection

2010-06-21 Thread Ron Johnson

On 06/21/2010 12:01 AM, Robert Holtzman wrote:

On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 11:44:17PM -0400, ABS Doug wrote:

 .snip



Ok now I REALIZE what people have been trying to communicate. I
hope I can help those smarter than I... please REALIZE, we noobs don't
even KNOW what info to give until the pros ask! Dmesg? Ok, I know I
type that in terminal  post what happens next, but I don't know what
Dmesg is or how it helps until someone asks! I'd LOVE to progress
further to know all about Dmesg, but until someone brings it up, I
don't know about a LOT of stuff!


  snip.

It sounds like the most effective thing you could do would be to pick up
a comprehensive Linux book and spend some quality time with it.



I found the best way was to install Mandrake (the Ubuntu of it's 
day) and then, as much as possible at any one time, use CLI tools 
instead of GUI tools.


At first that meant lots'o'GUI and little cli, but that changed over 
time.  Knowing how to program and having deep CLI/scripting 
experience on a minicomputer surely helped.


Also, having a *task* to accomplish always helps focus the mind.

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Re: Torrents killing my connection

2010-06-21 Thread Ron Johnson

On 06/21/2010 01:06 AM, Andrei Popescu wrote:

On Du, 20 iun 10, 00:41:29, Andrei Popescu wrote:

On Sb, 19 iun 10, 02:02:17, ABS Doug wrote:

[problems with torrents]

If you're on wireless try a wired connection for a while.


Did you get to trying wired only?



I don't think he can.

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Re: Torrents killing my conection

2010-06-21 Thread Huang, Tao
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote:
[snip]
 he won't be able to get the 4.4G iso file without pausing and
 resuming, if a misconfigured networking enviroment (or flaky wireless)
 was the reason.


 From what I can remember of his claims, it (downloading a torrent) over the
 wireless connection works fine with XP and with UNR.  It's just some form of
 straight Debian where torrent downloads fail.

i'm aware of that.
by misconfigured and flaky i mean possible flaws within his debian
setup and wireless driver.


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Re: From UTF-8 to octal and back

2010-06-21 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 20 Jun 2010 20:36:49 +0300, Alexander Batischev wrote:

(...)
 
 The problem is: I don't know how to convert from usual string
 (Введение) to octal (represented above) and back. I mean, I understand
 algorithm, but I don't know how to do it in a simple way. I thought
 about writing small C program to do that, but I guess there are some
 piece of software performing this task already, so I better ask in
 mailing list first.
 
 Any advices?

Maybe uni2ascii can help. It is included in Debian main repo.

http://billposer.org/Software/uni2ascii.html

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Re: Torrents killing my conection

2010-06-21 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Huang, Tao put forth on 6/21/2010 2:36 AM:
 On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote:
 [snip]
 he won't be able to get the 4.4G iso file without pausing and
 resuming, if a misconfigured networking enviroment (or flaky wireless)
 was the reason.


 From what I can remember of his claims, it (downloading a torrent) over the
 wireless connection works fine with XP and with UNR.  It's just some form of
 straight Debian where torrent downloads fail.
 
 i'm aware of that.
 by misconfigured and flaky i mean possible flaws within his debian
 setup and wireless driver.

He stated his torrent failures occur on both one rev of Ubuntu and one rev of
Debian--two Linux platforms.  My somewhat educated guess is that both revs use
the same version of the wireless driver and likely other network kernel code
that is different from the rev of Ubuntu which he has no torrent problems
with.  They may even use the exact same kernel rev.  I've not researched this
however.

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Re: Torrents killing my conection

2010-06-21 Thread ABS Doug
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 2:04 AM, Mark mamar...@gmail.com wrote:

 Exactly.  I'm hoping his dvd download via Iceweasel fails, since that would
 point directly to a driver issue.  If it succeeds, that means the problemo
 is with the torrent software.

Iceweasel, jigdo both worked. Also I've tried I think 5 different
torrent software.


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Re: Torrents killing my conection

2010-06-21 Thread ABS Doug
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 12:43 AM, Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote:

 From what I can remember of his claims, it (downloading a torrent) over the
 wireless connection works fine with XP and with UNR.  It's just some form of
 straight Debian where torrent downloads fail.

XP  UNR 9.10 work, Debian  UNE 10.04 do not.

I've successfully downloaded via Iceweasel, Usenet an now jigdo.


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Re: Well, this is interesting... (was Re: Torrents killing my connection)

2010-06-21 Thread ABS Doug
On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 9:20 PM, Huang, Tao deb...@huangtao.me wrote:

 When replying to messages on the mailing list, do not send a carbon
 copy (CC) to the original poster unless they explicitly request to be
 copied.

That's what I thought... well we're all going to have to live with a
mistake every now  again. Gets to be a habit to hit reply, then
change the To to the list.


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Re: Torrents killing my connection

2010-06-21 Thread ABS Doug
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 12:22 AM, Huang, Tao deb...@huangtao.me wrote:

 so the torrents render you wireless disconnected.

 if your wifi adapter driver supports auto-reconnecting, everything
 should be solved. but i have no idea on how to get there.

 correct me if i get it wrong.

My visual indicator something is wrong is when Skype goes offline. The
signal meter shows a connection, but once Skype goes offline, I can't
do anything until I disconnect  reconnect. I'd be able to live with
the problem if there was a auto-reconnection, but since the connection
doesn't actually disconnect...?


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Re: How to change the console into UTF-8 mode for FreeBSD kernels?

2010-06-21 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 20 Jun 2010 19:51:51 +0800, Michael Tsang wrote:

 It's really annoying if the console isn't in UTF-8 mode as every bit of
 my system is in Unicode to prevent any compatibility problems.

Dunno if you alredy did it, but maybe you get more lucky by asking your 
question here:

http://lists.debian.org/debian-bsd/

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mising ~/include/linux/version.h 686-bigmem

2010-06-21 Thread Greg Madden
I am using 32bit Lenny.  I added more memory ,I wanted to use the 686-bigmem 
kernel. 

The Nvidia package install, from nvidia's site, complains about missing the 
version.h file. 

Searching I found the solution was to install the kernel source and do a 'make 
oldconfig' with the .config file from the bigmem kernel.This works but I 
haven't had to do this with the stock 686 kernel  headers so I was wondering 
if it is a Debian header issue for the 686-bigmem kernel.
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Re: Torrents killing my connection

2010-06-21 Thread ABS Doug
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 2:13 AM, Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote:

 It sounds like the most effective thing you could do would be to pick up
 a comprehensive Linux book and spend some quality time with it.

I do have a book. It is quite handy  I do read it often. The CLI
stuff... I'd have to take a really methodical approach to. At present
I have similar distaste for it that I had back in 1980 with Basic,
TRS-80, my Vic 20. I went to this computer summer camp, I remember
copying code for a Pac Man type game. It didn't work  when the
teacher said, We'll have to go back  see where you mistyped I was
d-o-n-e. I didn't get back into computers till Window 3.11  to be
honest never did learn anything but GUI. CLI is great if you can
remember *exactly* what needs to be typed, but my brain doesn't
naturally learn like that. I'd have to study. I'm guessing I'm not
grasping the over pattern of thinking with the CLI  once I start
really trying to learn, I'll have a breakthrough. Right now it seems
like a lot of random, unfamiliar, exact instructions that are seldom
used over  I'm pretty sure that can't be the case.


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Re: status of Snd soundfile-editor in squeeze???

2010-06-21 Thread Alessio Treglia
Hi Jim,

On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 3:10 AM, Jim McCloskey mccl...@ucsc.edu wrote:
 After installation of the basic infrastructure (the snd package itself) you 
 need
 to install one of the user interface packages---snd-gtk-jack, snd-gtk-pulse, 
 or
 snd-gtk. The first builds in Jack support, the second builds in pulse-audio
 support, and the third (which I have always used) should just interface 
 directly
 with Alsa.

snd-gtk and snd-alsa are virtual packages provided by snd-gtk-{jack,pulse}.

 The upgrade process was quite fraught, because on startup, snd complained 
 about
 missing extension files and faulty load-paths. I got past those problems by
 removing a .snd_guile_prefs file in my home directory left there by the 
 previous
 version of the package.


Could you provide me a full detailed log? It would be useful in order
to collect more information about this issue.

  can't play: open read /dev/dsp: No such file or directory
              [audio.c[1825] linux_audio_open_with_error]

This needs investigation too. Which snd packages have you installed now?

 I notice that the version of snd-gtk available in the repositories is very old
 (7.18-2.2 0 from lenny, with no version at all in squeeze or sid)

[...]

As said above, it isn't a real binary package anymore, it's just
provided by both snd-gtk-pulse and snd-gtk-jack.


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Re: Torrents killing my connection

2010-06-21 Thread Klistvud

Dne, 21. 06. 2010 04:10:28 je H.S. napisal(a):


I think he is over-simplifying the problem of flaky wireless, but I
understand where he is coming from. I have discovered that a buggy
driver, or buggy firmware on the wireless card, or both, can cause
wireless connectivity problems over time. It doesn't need to be  
torrents

of course, any network traffic will give similar results.


+1


A workaround is to
restart the networking.



In my experience, this is not *always* true. On some platforms, ifdown  
followed by ifup helps. On some platforms, restarting network-manager  
helps. On some platforms, unloading the wireless kernel module and  
re-inserting it helps. On some platforms, such as my HP 6715b laptop w/  
the proprietary Broadcom wl driver, sometimes putting the laptop to  
sleep and then waking it up again helps (short of rebooting, of course).


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Re: Torrents killing my conection

2010-06-21 Thread Ron Johnson

On 06/21/2010 03:00 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote:

Huang, Tao put forth on 6/21/2010 2:36 AM:

On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Ron Johnsonron.l.john...@cox.net  wrote:
[snip]

he won't be able to get the 4.4G iso file without pausing and
resuming, if a misconfigured networking enviroment (or flaky wireless)
was the reason.



 From what I can remember of his claims, it (downloading a torrent) over the
wireless connection works fine with XP and with UNR.  It's just some form of
straight Debian where torrent downloads fail.


i'm aware of that.
by misconfigured and flaky i mean possible flaws within his debian
setup and wireless driver.


He stated his torrent failures occur on both one rev of Ubuntu and one rev of
Debian--two Linux platforms.  My somewhat educated guess is that both revs use
the same version of the wireless driver and likely other network kernel code
that is different from the rev of Ubuntu which he has no torrent problems
with.  They may even use the exact same kernel rev.  I've not researched this
however.



Lets not forget that my *wired* system crapped out at 86% while 
downloading the torrent he supplied.  Bouncing my WRT56GL solved the 
problem.


However, two other torrents I've downloaded (both legally on 
torrent) downloaded just fine.


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Re: mising ~/include/linux/version.h 686-bigmem

2010-06-21 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2010-06-21, Greg Madden gomadtr...@gci.net wrote:
 I am using 32bit Lenny.  I added more memory ,I wanted to use the 686-bigmem 
 kernel. 

 The Nvidia package install, from nvidia's site, complains about missing the 
 version.h file. 

 Searching I found the solution was to install the kernel source and do a 
 'make 
 oldconfig' with the .config file from the bigmem kernel.This works but I 
 haven't had to do this with the stock 686 kernel  headers so I was wondering 
 if it is a Debian header issue for the 686-bigmem kernel.

You just need to install the linux-headers package corresponding to the
kernel against which you want to compile the module. It helps to keep
the dummy packages linux-headers-2.6-686-bigmem and
linux-image-2.6-686-bigmem installed: then the headers will always
match the kernel.

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Re: mising ~/include/linux/version.h 686-bigmem

2010-06-21 Thread Greg Madden
On Monday 21 June 2010 01:47:42 Liam O'Toole wrote:
 On 2010-06-21, Greg Madden gomadtr...@gci.net wrote:
  I am using 32bit Lenny.  I added more memory ,I wanted to use the
  686-bigmem kernel.
 
  The Nvidia package install, from nvidia's site, complains about missing
  the version.h file.
 
  Searching I found the solution was to install the kernel source and do a
  'make oldconfig' with the .config file from the bigmem kernel.This works
  but I haven't had to do this with the stock 686 kernel  headers so I was
  wondering if it is a Debian header issue for the 686-bigmem kernel.

 You just need to install the linux-headers package corresponding to the
 kernel against which you want to compile the module. It helps to keep
 the dummy packages linux-headers-2.6-686-bigmem and
 linux-image-2.6-686-bigmem installed: then the headers will always
 match the kernel.

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I see I was not very clear, i have the headers package installed, which Is why 
i was wondering why the 686-bigmem headers didn't work.

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Ralink 2500 connects at 1M

2010-06-21 Thread Rob Owens
My Lenny laptop with a Ralink 2500 wireless card always connects at a
speed of 1M, which is unbearably slow.  I can issue this command which
fixes it, but I have to do it every time:

iwconfig wlan0 rate 54M

Anybody know a better way?

-Rob


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NetworkManager and if-up.d

2010-06-21 Thread Rob Owens
I need to run a script every time my wireless connection comes up, but
putting one in /etc/network/if-up.d does not work.  NetworkManager has
provisions for scripts in /etc/NetworkManager/dispatcher.d, but it looks
like the script that is already there (01ifupdown) is designed to run
everything in if-up.d -- but it's not working.

How can I get a script to run when NetworkManager brings up my wireless
connection?

-Rob


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Re: How do I back up a running system?

2010-06-21 Thread Robert S
I have debian running on a headless system.  I'd like to back the 
entire system up.  Its difficult with a bootable disk without a monitor 
(so Clonezilla etc are out).  I've tried mondoarchive but it usually 
bails out before it completes the backup.


And what does mondoarchive.log say?


Calling MINDI to create boot+data disks
Your boot loader is GRUB and it boots from /dev/sda
/var/tmp/mondo-temp/tmp.mondo.9418/tmp.mondo.8981

The log gets this far then nothing happens:

# tail /var/log/mondo-archive.log
You are using Mindi-Linux v2.2.0-r881 to make boot+data disks
Analyzing dependency requirements   Done.
Making complete dependency list 100% 
|cp: cannot stat `/usr/games/petris': No such file or directory

Cannot find /usr/games/petris. You will not
be able to play petris during restore.
Done.
Analyzing your keyboard's configuration.

Adding the following keyboard mapping tables:   Done.
Dropping i686-optimized libraries if appropriate.

I am running mondoarchive with the following options:

mondoarchive -OiF -k /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.26-2-686 -d 
/var/tmp/mondoarchive -S /var/tmp/mondo-scratch -T /var/tmp/mondo-temp -E 
/home /mnt /root/packages /var/cache/apt/archives




I don't know what version that is: I run Mindi v2.0.7.2-r2575 and Mondo 
Archive v2.2.9.3-r2622.

If I were in your situation I would download the latest from upstream:
http://mondorescue.muskokamug.org/debian/5.0/
because Debian is backleveled, do it again, and then save my mondoarchive 
+ mindi logs in their entirety and post the error and the logs on the 
mondo forum where the response is excellent:

mondo-de...@lists.sourceforge.net
and also post what you posted here: your calling parameters, and see what 
Bruno Cornec says, he is the lead developer and on top of things.




The latest version seems to work from the upstream site.  I did a restore on 
a vmware virtual machine and it died during bootup.  I didn't have any 
problems using an older version of vmware.


I managed to back my system up successfully using a combination of 
backupninja and genisoimage.  A much cruder but more straightforward 
approach. 




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Version in use

2010-06-21 Thread Cliff Ayling

Hallo,

I have a CnMbook netbook and from what I can find it has a Debian Linux 
system (distribution, I think it is called).


How do I find out which version of operating system I have? Please.

Thanks,

Cliff Ayling




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Re: Version in use

2010-06-21 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 12:18:31 +0100, Cliff Ayling wrote:

 I have a CnMbook netbook and from what I can find it has a Debian Linux
 system (distribution, I think it is called).
 
 How do I find out which version of operating system I have? Please.

As it seems to run a modified version of Debian, it can be anything.

http://194.150.201.35/cnmlifestyle/cnmbook/cnmbookspecification.htm

You better try with  uname -r to know the kernel version.

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ATI video issue on Lenny

2010-06-21 Thread Open Source.Lives
Hi there,

Is anyone having any issues with ATI latest drivers rending the screen
(blank) useless to use at random times, this doesn't allow me to use the
ctl+alt+(F1,F2,F3,F4,F5,F6) to restart Xorg? But instead requires me to
press the recycle button. This happen often.

 I wanted to see if it was only happening on Lenny AMD64, so I tried another
Linux AMD64 distribution only to have the same thing happing again, so now I
have switched back to Windows to see if it is a hardware or software
issueSo far the ATI drivers for Windows has been solid so far and has
not render the screen into unuseable mode, as I have been running it for
nearly two days straight without the screen becoming useless on me and no
need for me to RMA on the motherboard.

After concluding that it was the ATI drivers for Linux and not hardware
fault, I wish to get back to using Debian as soon as possible.

The motherboard has 512MB onboard video, with the memory coming from system
RAM. My current hardware setup is

Antec 300 Three-Hundred Three Hundred Gaming Case
Vantec ION2 460W PSU
ECS A790GXM-AD3
Socket AM3 socket for AMD Phenom™ II processors
Supports CPU up to 140W TDP only
On Chip (AMD 790GX-based with ATI™ Radeon HD3300 graphics )
4 x 240-pin DDR3 DIMM socket support up to 32GB
Support DDR3 up to 1333/1066 DDR3 SDRAM
2 x PCI Express Gen 2.0 x16 slots, 2 x PCI Express x1 slots, 2 x PCI slots
2 x Ultra DMA 100/66/33 devices, 6 x Serial ATAII 3.0Gb/s devices RAID0,
RAID1, RAID5, RAID 10 configuration, 1 x eSATA
Realtek RTL 8111C Gigabit Fast Ethernet NIC
CPU - AMD Phenom II X2 Dual Core 550 CPU BLACK EDITION, 3.1GHz, 7 MB Cache
socket AM3 45nm SOI (80W)
Type of Memory Supported Support for unregistered DIMMs up to PC2-6400
(DDR2-800MHz) -AND- PC3-8500 (DDR3-1066MHz)
Ram - G.Skill PI 4GB Kit (2GB X 2) PC3-10666 PC-10600 DDR3 1333 CL 7-7-7-18
LG GH22NS30 OEM 22x SATA Dual Layer, DVD+-RW DVDRW Black DL DVD Writer Pack
(24.3W)
Samsung HD103UJ
Wireless PCI - TP Link WN651G 108M

 Thanks for your time.

Quan


Re: Version in use

2010-06-21 Thread Huang, Tao
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 7:18 PM, Cliff Ayling
cliffayl...@btinternet.com wrote:
 How do I find out which version of operating system I have? Please.

cat /etc/issue /proc/version


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Re: mising ~/include/linux/version.h 686-bigmem

2010-06-21 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 12:44:14AM -0800, Greg Madden wrote:
 I am using 32bit Lenny.  I added more memory ,I wanted to use the 686-bigmem 
 kernel. 
 
 The Nvidia package install, from nvidia's site, complains about missing the 
 version.h file. 

  
http://packages.debian.org/lenny/i386/linux-headers-2.6.26-2-686-bigmem/filelist

does show

  /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.26-2-686-bigmem/include/linux/version.h

 
 Searching I found the solution was to install the kernel source and do a 
 'make 
 oldconfig' with the .config file from the bigmem kernel.This works but I 
 haven't had to do this with the stock 686 kernel  headers so I was wondering 
 if it is a Debian header issue for the 686-bigmem kernel.

I suspect that this is a bug with the nVidia script.

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Re: Torrents killing my conection

2010-06-21 Thread ABS Doug
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 5:28 AM, Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote:

 Lets not forget that my *wired* system crapped out at 86% while downloading
 the torrent he supplied.  Bouncing my WRT56GL solved the problem.

 However, two other torrents I've downloaded (both legally on torrent)
 downloaded just fine.

   I've had problems with torrents not finishing, but *never* knocking
out my connection! Boy this is REALLY weird. Your wired connection on
the same torrent... wow, I'm just totally confused. So what
technically happening when a torrent takes down your wired
connection??


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Re: Torrents killing my conection

2010-06-21 Thread Eero Volotinen
2010/6/21 ABS Doug absd...@gmail.com:
 On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 5:28 AM, Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote:

 Lets not forget that my *wired* system crapped out at 86% while downloading
 the torrent he supplied.  Bouncing my WRT56GL solved the problem.

 However, two other torrents I've downloaded (both legally on torrent)
 downloaded just fine.

   I've had problems with torrents not finishing, but *never* knocking
 out my connection! Boy this is REALLY weird. Your wired connection on
 the same torrent... wow, I'm just totally confused. So what
 technically happening when a torrent takes down your wired
 connection??

Well, it knocks out your router by eating it's memory and cpu time too much.

This is typical problem on low end routers, buy better one..

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Re: mising ~/include/linux/version.h 686-bigmem

2010-06-21 Thread Greg Madden
On Monday 21 June 2010 03:55:57 Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
 On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 12:44:14AM -0800, Greg Madden wrote:
  I am using 32bit Lenny.  I added more memory ,I wanted to use the
  686-bigmem kernel.
 
  The Nvidia package install, from nvidia's site, complains about missing
  the version.h file.

  
 http://packages.debian.org/lenny/i386/linux-headers-2.6.26-2-686-bigmem/fil
elist

 does show

   /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.26-2-686-bigmem/include/linux/version.h

  Searching I found the solution was to install the kernel source and do a
  'make oldconfig' with the .config file from the bigmem kernel.This works
  but I haven't had to do this with the stock 686 kernel  headers so I was
  wondering if it is a Debian header issue for the 686-bigmem kernel.

 I suspect that this is a bug with the nVidia script.

It may be my mistake. I have a link from some kernel-headers for a kernel I 
use for an older version of vmware. The headers were linked 
to '/usr/src/linux', wrong headers compared to the new running kernel , wrong 
version.h file.  

I suppose nvidia's script looked at the '/usr/src/linux/...' path instead of 
the matching linux-header path for the running kernel.

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Between a Rock and a Hard Place (Installing Squeeze)

2010-06-21 Thread Alan Chandler
I have spent the last couple of days (intermittently) failing get a usb 
bootable installation for squeeze that will work with my hardware and 
AMD-64 (I have inadvertently built an i386 system [twice] - because I 
have an old squeeze installation on an SD card that I failed to add the 
architecture label to).


I have a server which has no cd.  Only real possibility is to boot from 
a usb memory stick.  Fortunately with the fact that I have an SDHC card 
to USB adaptor I have plenty of them large enough.


Following the instructions in the installation manual section 4.3.2 
Copying the files - the flexible way I can get a bootable installation 
provided I can get an .iso


However my new system will be comprised of ext2 and ext4 filesystems and 
right now there is a bug which prevents versions 2.16 of libblkid1 
making such systems  2.17 works - and is available in sid (and can be 
back copied into squeeze) but until it can migrate into testing (which I 
had expected to happen last night - but something has now delayed it 
another two days)


So downloading the weekly .iso of CD1 of testing doesn't work - because 
it fails in the partitioning process of making the new filesystems.


I have also downloaded the daily netboot install which has the sid 
installer (although it installs squeeze) but that seems not to recognize 
either of my two ethernet cards so installation doesn't even get started.


I am not sure where to go next. Possibilities seem like

a) Get a SID CD .iso - install that and then change my sources.list to 
point at the squeeze repositories once it has installed the base system.


b) Try and dynamically change the libblkid1.so.1 file once the installer 
has booted.


Neither seem perfect.  Has anyone any other suggestions?

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Re: UUID in fstab? - Gave Up

2010-06-21 Thread Christopher Judd
On Saturday 19 June 2010 12:57:22 Thomas H. George wrote:

 On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 01:15:48PM -0400, Thomas H. George wrote:
 snip  ...
 
 I deleted the vfat partition and created a new ext2 partition in its
 place.  Ran e2fsck on all of my partitions.  The result was clean in
 every case.  Tried to install linux-base and the installation failed
 with the same dosfslabel message.  Filed bug report.
 

This is a long shot, but do you have any USB devices attached?  When I went 
through this linux-base upgrade on my home system, I kept getting an error 
about something being open (I don't remember the exact message).  Running 
e2fsck on all the partitions didn't help.  Then I turned of the USB printer 
(which has an SDRAM card reader), and the upgrade worked.  Certainly remove 
any USB memory sticks.

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Re: Version in use

2010-06-21 Thread Alexander Batischev
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 12:18:31PM +0100, Cliff Ayling wrote:
 Hallo,
 
 I have a CnMbook netbook and from what I can find it has a Debian
 Linux system (distribution, I think it is called).
 
 How do I find out which version of operating system I have? Please.

  $ lsb_release -a

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SOLVED: From UTF-8 to octal and back

2010-06-21 Thread Alexander Batischev
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 07:57:24AM +, Camaleón wrote:
 On Sun, 20 Jun 2010 20:36:49 +0300, Alexander Batischev wrote:
 
 (...)
  
  The problem is: I don't know how to convert from usual string
  (Введение) to octal (represented above) and back. I mean, I understand
  algorithm, but I don't know how to do it in a simple way. I thought
  about writing small C program to do that, but I guess there are some
  piece of software performing this task already, so I better ask in
  mailing list first.
  
  Any advices?
 
 Maybe uni2ascii can help. It is included in Debian main repo.
 
 http://billposer.org/Software/uni2ascii.html

Ah, thank you, Camaleón! That's exactly what I was looking for!

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Can't restart certain crashed applications without rebooting (in this case Noatun)

2010-06-21 Thread Randy Kramer
Sorry this is so long--maybe I can summarize the problem here, then you 
can go on and read the background and a more detailed explanation of 
the problem:

Sometimes after a program hangs (in this case noatun), I have trouble 
restarting it without rebooting my entire system.  I do look for all 
the processes associated with the application (noatun, using ps -Al | 
grep noatun) and kill them, with either kill -9 or kill -15, but 
afterwards, when I try to start the application, I just get a spinning 
hourglass indication in the taskbox (on the taskbar) and a small 
bouncing blue ball elsewhere on the screen, both of which eventually 
disappear without having started the application.

Hmm, maybe with that you don't even need the Background and Problem 
listed below.  I've tried googling, but don't really have a good clue 
for what to google.

A dead end (I think):

Oh, wait, I might have a clue:  now I try to start noatun in a terminal 
(with  or without) and I very quickly (sometimes) get exit 255--hmm, 
on the next try I didn't get the exit 255--what does exit 255 mean?:

r...@s17:~$ noatun 
[2] 11248
[1]   Exit 255  noatun
r...@s17:~$

Well, I haven't found out what exit 255 means, but I don't think it 
matters, it doesn't consistently happen, just sometimes.

Background:

This is surely not a Debian specific question, but I'll try asking here 
to see if anyone can give me one or more hints--I've tried to do some 
googling, but really don't have a good clue for what to google.

I've had the same thing happen for applications besides Noatun (iirc) 
(and on Linuxes that I used before installing Debian 5.0), but because 
the current problem is Noatun, I'll mention Noatun in this example.

I was running Noatun and it hung.  It may have been something I 
did--specifically, at the time it hung, I had the playlist up and was 
unchecking checkboxes on the playlist.

In an effort to restart noatun, I looked (using ps -Al | grep noatun) 
for all noatun processes and killed them with (the first time)  
kill -9.  Later (on subsequent attempts), I tried kill -15.

Either one wipes out all the processes with noatun in the name.

The problem:

Here's the problem: when I go to restart noatun, it won't restart.  On 
the taskbar (is that the right name in KDE) I see a task labeled noatun 
seemingly attempt to start--I see an hourglass spinning, and elsewhere 
on my screen I see some sort of small bouncing blue ball, but after 15 
seconds or so, both disappear and noatun hasn't restarted.  If I go 
look at the processes using ps -Al | grep noatun, I find something like 
the following:

s17:~# ps -Al | grep noatun
1 S  1000 11039  3039  0  80   0 -  8589 -  ?00:00:00 noatun
1 S  1000 11040 11039  0  80   0 -  9670 -  ?00:00:00 noatun
1 S  1000 11141  3039  0  80   0 -  8589 -  ?00:00:00 noatun
1 Z  1000 11142 11141  0  80   0 - 0 -  ?00:00:00 noatun  
defunct
s17:~#

If I wipe those out (using kill -9 or kill -15), they disappear, but 
when I try to noatun again I get the same result.

In the past, the only way I found to recover from a situation like this 
was to reboot.  (Potentially just restarting KDE might also solve the 
problem, but from my point of view, restarting KDE is as drastic a 
solution as rebooting, so when I think about restarting KDE I just go 
ahead and do a (cold) reboot with the hope of cleaning up any other 
possible garbage that might be floating around in my system.)

I see that the one process is a Zombie.  I've googled on things like 
zombie, process, noatun, restart, and combinations thereof--even a good 
suggestion on appropriate search terms might get me started here (of 
course, a nice clear explanation and course of action would be nicer).

Thanks!
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Re: Torrents killing my conection

2010-06-21 Thread Ron Johnson

On 06/21/2010 07:22 AM, Eero Volotinen wrote:

2010/6/21 ABS Dougabsd...@gmail.com:

On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 5:28 AM, Ron Johnsonron.l.john...@cox.net  wrote:


Lets not forget that my *wired* system crapped out at 86% while downloading
the torrent he supplied.  Bouncing my WRT56GL solved the problem.

However, two other torrents I've downloaded (both legally on torrent)
downloaded just fine.


   I've had problems with torrents not finishing, but *never* knocking
out my connection! Boy this is REALLY weird. Your wired connection on
the same torrent... wow, I'm just totally confused. So what
technically happening when a torrent takes down your wired
connection??


Well, it knocks out your router by eating it's memory and cpu time too much.

This is typical problem on low end routers, buy better one..



The why does it succeed when XP is the client, and for me when the 
torrent is non-pirate?


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Re: Can't restart certain crashed applications without rebooting (in this case Noatun)

2010-06-21 Thread Randy Kramer
Hmm, as is too often the case, after sending an email seeking, I start 
to get some other clues--I found a suggestion to restart arts--I tried 
that, still no luck so I'm still looking for help (but maybe I have 
some kind of clue now).

Randy Kramer

On Monday 21 June 2010 09:38:55 am Randy Kramer wrote:
 Sorry this is so long--maybe I can summarize the problem here, then
 you can go on and read the background and a more detailed explanation
 of the problem:

 Sometimes after a program hangs (in this case noatun), I have trouble
 restarting it without rebooting my entire system.  I do look for all
 the processes associated with the application (noatun, using ps -Al |
 grep noatun) and kill them, with either kill -9 or kill -15, but
 afterwards, when I try to start the application, I just get a
 spinning hourglass indication in the taskbox (on the taskbar) and a
 small bouncing blue ball elsewhere on the screen, both of which
 eventually disappear without having started the application.

 Hmm, maybe with that you don't even need the Background and Problem
 listed below.  I've tried googling, but don't really have a good clue
 for what to google.

 A dead end (I think):

 Oh, wait, I might have a clue:  now I try to start noatun in a
 terminal (with  or without) and I very quickly (sometimes) get exit
 255--hmm, on the next try I didn't get the exit 255--what does exit
 255 mean?:

 r...@s17:~$ noatun 
 [2] 11248
 [1]   Exit 255  noatun
 r...@s17:~$

 Well, I haven't found out what exit 255 means, but I don't think it
 matters, it doesn't consistently happen, just sometimes.

 Background:

 This is surely not a Debian specific question, but I'll try asking
 here to see if anyone can give me one or more hints--I've tried to do
 some googling, but really don't have a good clue for what to google.

 I've had the same thing happen for applications besides Noatun (iirc)
 (and on Linuxes that I used before installing Debian 5.0), but
 because the current problem is Noatun, I'll mention Noatun in this
 example.

 I was running Noatun and it hung.  It may have been something I
 did--specifically, at the time it hung, I had the playlist up and was
 unchecking checkboxes on the playlist.

 In an effort to restart noatun, I looked (using ps -Al | grep noatun)
 for all noatun processes and killed them with (the first time)
 kill -9.  Later (on subsequent attempts), I tried kill -15.

 Either one wipes out all the processes with noatun in the name.

 The problem:

 Here's the problem: when I go to restart noatun, it won't restart. 
 On the taskbar (is that the right name in KDE) I see a task labeled
 noatun seemingly attempt to start--I see an hourglass spinning, and
 elsewhere on my screen I see some sort of small bouncing blue ball,
 but after 15 seconds or so, both disappear and noatun hasn't
 restarted.  If I go look at the processes using ps -Al | grep noatun,
 I find something like the following:

 s17:~# ps -Al | grep noatun
 1 S  1000 11039  3039  0  80   0 -  8589 -  ?00:00:00
 noatun 1 S  1000 11040 11039  0  80   0 -  9670 -  ?   
 00:00:00 noatun 1 S  1000 11141  3039  0  80   0 -  8589 -  ?
00:00:00 noatun 1 Z  1000 11142 11141  0  80   0 - 0 -  ? 
   00:00:00 noatun defunct
 s17:~#

 If I wipe those out (using kill -9 or kill -15), they disappear, but
 when I try to noatun again I get the same result.

 In the past, the only way I found to recover from a situation like
 this was to reboot.  (Potentially just restarting KDE might also
 solve the problem, but from my point of view, restarting KDE is as
 drastic a solution as rebooting, so when I think about restarting KDE
 I just go ahead and do a (cold) reboot with the hope of cleaning up
 any other possible garbage that might be floating around in my
 system.)

 I see that the one process is a Zombie.  I've googled on things like
 zombie, process, noatun, restart, and combinations thereof--even a
 good suggestion on appropriate search terms might get me started here
 (of course, a nice clear explanation and course of action would be
 nicer).

 Thanks!
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Re: Version in use

2010-06-21 Thread Ron Johnson

On 06/21/2010 06:50 AM, Huang, Tao wrote:

On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 7:18 PM, Cliff Ayling
cliffayl...@btinternet.com  wrote:

How do I find out which version of operating system I have? Please.


cat /etc/issue /proc/version



And /etc/debian_version.

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Re: Torrents killing my connection

2010-06-21 Thread H.S.
On 06/20/10 17:30, ABS Doug wrote:
 On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 10:37 AM, H.S. hs.sa...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 If torrents were acting all weird in my case, I would do the following,
 in the given order.

 1. Try a safe torrent, e.g. of a Linux distribution (Ubuntu is a good
 example). The idea is to exclude the possibility of using bad or
 intentionally malformed torrents (see klistvud's reply). If this safe
 torrent works without problems, then you know what is wrong. If it
 doesn't, then go to next step.
 
 I'm gunna start one now, see what happens. Good idea, nothing should
 be at issue there.

So, is the verdict out? How did it go?




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Re: Torrents killing my connection

2010-06-21 Thread H.S.
On 06/20/10 23:10, ABS Doug wrote:
 On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 10:47 PM, Huang, Tao deb...@huangtao.me wrote:

 you have no control at all on how the wifi hotspots were configured,
 which is also the case of ABS Doug.
 port-forwarding (or upnp) is needed for good torrents performance.
 if the number of connections is not limited, the router resouces will
 be used up pretty soon, especially on share hotspots.
 downloading over http can be resumed smoothly after a networking
 restarting, but torrents suffer more on this.
 
 I DO have access to the router, just not able to run a cable to it. I
 have the password  can modify settings as long as I'm not screwing
 anyone else in house.
 
 

I have used WR54G for some time. I do not recall having any issue with
it. But I was using it with a cable  I have learned never to trust a
wireless connection for a sustained and reliable connection. Besides,
its stock firmware was quickly replace with an open source one, IIRC DD-WRT.



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Re: Ralink 2500 connects at 1M

2010-06-21 Thread xuyuanwei
在 2010-06-21一的 06:15 -0400,Rob Owens写道:
 My Lenny laptop with a Ralink 2500 wireless card always connects at a
 speed of 1M, which is unbearably slow.  I can issue this command which
 fixes it, but I have to do it every time:
 
 iwconfig wlan0 rate 54M

Try: In /etc/network/interfaces, in the wlan0 section,add  pre-up
iwconfig wlan0 rate 54M below the iface ... line.
 
 Anybody know a better way?
 
 -Rob
 
 



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Re: 32bits and 3G memory limit

2010-06-21 Thread T o n g
Thanks everyone who replied,

On Sun, 20 Jun 2010 17:26:08 +, Camaleón wrote:

 I mean, does 32bits Linux (the i386 architecture) has such 3G limit as
 well?
 
 No, 32 bits architecture can make use of PAE and add/use/address as much
 as 64 GiB of RAM.
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_Address_Extension

in which it says:

,-
| The Linux kernel supports PAE  as a build option and most major
| distributions provide a PAE kernel either as the default or as an
| option.
`-

How can I know if the PAE support is built in my kernel?

$ grep -i pae /boot/config* || echo no found 
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Re: 32bits and 3G memory limit

2010-06-21 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 14:38:27 +, T o n g wrote:

 Thanks everyone who replied,

You're welcome.
 
 On Sun, 20 Jun 2010 17:26:08 +, Camaleón wrote:
 
 I mean, does 32bits Linux (the i386 architecture) has such 3G limit as
 well?
 
 No, 32 bits architecture can make use of PAE and add/use/address as
 much as 64 GiB of RAM.
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_Address_Extension
 
 in which it says:
 
 ,-
 | The Linux kernel supports PAE  as a build option and most major |
 distributions provide a PAE kernel either as the default or as an |
 option.
 `-
 
 How can I know if the PAE support is built in my kernel?

In Debian, PAE enabled kernels are named linux-image-*-bigmem (note the 
bigmem).

 $ grep -i pae /boot/config* || echo no found no found

uname -r will tell :-)

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Re: 32bits and 3G memory limit

2010-06-21 Thread Aaron Toponce
On 6/20/2010 10:32 AM, T o n g wrote:
 Is the 3G memory access limit is the natural one, or something 
 superficial imposed by M$? I mean, does 32bits Linux (the i386 
 architecture) has such 3G limit as well? 

I'm not familiar with M$, but if you're referring to MS, short for
Microsoft, then no. Sorry, pet peeve, but M$, Micro$oft, and the
like, come across as quite immature, and very fanboy.

A 32-bit system, is a system that can address at most 2^32 bits of
memory for any given process. Most 32-bit kernels these days, however,
can address much more thanks to the physical address extensions (PAE),
typically 64 GB. But that still means that each process can only address
2^32, or 4GB of RAM.

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Re: 32bits and 3G memory limit

2010-06-21 Thread Eero Volotinen
2010/6/21 T o n g mlist4sunt...@yahoo.com:
 Thanks everyone who replied,

 On Sun, 20 Jun 2010 17:26:08 +, Camaleón wrote:

 I mean, does 32bits Linux (the i386 architecture) has such 3G limit as
 well?

 No, 32 bits architecture can make use of PAE and add/use/address as much
 as 64 GiB of RAM.

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_Address_Extension

 in which it says:

 ,-
 | The Linux kernel supports PAE  as a build option and most major
 | distributions provide a PAE kernel either as the default or as an
 | option.
 `-

 How can I know if the PAE support is built in my kernel?

 $ grep -i pae /boot/config* || echo no found
 no found

I think it is included in bigmem kernel ?

try apt-cache search linux-image | grep bigmem ?

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Re: Version in use

2010-06-21 Thread Aaron Toponce
On 6/21/2010 5:18 AM, Cliff Ayling wrote:
 I have a CnMbook netbook and from what I can find it has a Debian Linux
 system (distribution, I think it is called).
 
 How do I find out which version of operating system I have? Please.

dpkg -l base-files

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Re: 32bits and 3G memory limit

2010-06-21 Thread deloptes
Eero Volotinen wrote:

 $ grep -i pae /boot/config* || echo no found
 no found
 
 I think it is included in bigmem kernel ?
 
 try apt-cache search linux-image | grep bigmem ?

thanks for pointing out this, because I was curious and grepped the config
files on my 32bit system.

grep -i pae /boot/config*
/boot/config-2.6.26.2s1:# CONFIG_X86_PAE is not set
/boot/config-2.6.26.2s1.old:# CONFIG_X86_PAE is not set
/boot/config-2.6.26.5s1:# CONFIG_X86_PAE is not set

but it seems that in newer once it's gone

ls -1 /boot/config*
/boot/config
/boot/config-2.4.26-acl-emo
/boot/config-2.4.26-h323-acl-emo
/boot/config-2.6.26.2s1
/boot/config-2.6.26.2s1.old
/boot/config-2.6.26.5s1
/boot/config-2.6.28.5eko2
/boot/config-2.6.28.5eko2.old
/boot/config-2.6.30.10eko2
/boot/config-2.6.30.6eko2
/boot/config-2.6.30.6eko2.old
/boot/config-2.6.31eko2
/boot/config-2.6.31eko2.old
/boot/config-2.6.32.7eko2
/boot/config-2.6.32.7eko2.old
/boot/config-2.6.33eko2
/boot/config.old

surprise surprise - when making statements by theory people should check in
practice

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Re: 32bits and 3G memory limit

2010-06-21 Thread Jon Dowland
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 02:38:27PM +, T o n g wrote:
 Thanks everyone who replied,
 
 On Sun, 20 Jun 2010 17:26:08 +, Camaleón wrote:
 
  I mean, does 32bits Linux (the i386 architecture) has such 3G limit as
  well?
  
  No, 32 bits architecture can make use of PAE and add/use/address as much
  as 64 GiB of RAM.
  
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_Address_Extension
 
 in which it says:
 
 ,-
 | The Linux kernel supports PAE  as a build option and most major
 | distributions provide a PAE kernel either as the default or as an
 | option.
 `-
 
 How can I know if the PAE support is built in my kernel?
 
 $ grep -i pae /boot/config* || echo no found 
 no found

You are looking for the HIGHMEM64 config option,

and apparently the -bigmem suffixed kernel packages.


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Re: KVM with non-standard floppy image size

2010-06-21 Thread Randy Kramer
Tong,

Do you actually have a floppy drive (and media) that can handle 8 
megabytes?  That seems rather unlikely, as the standard 3 1/2 (iirc) 
floppy is 1.44 MB.

Randy Kramer

On Monday 21 June 2010 11:01:33 am T o n g wrote:
 Does anyone has positive experience with KVM using non-standard
 floppy image size?

 SIZEKB=8192
 mkdosfs -I -v -C dosfs-8M.img $SIZEKB
 sudo mount -o loop dosfs-8M.img /mnt/tmp1/
 echo aaa  /mnt/tmp1/a
 kvm -fda MSDOS71B.IMG -fdb dosfs-8M.img

 I get drive not formatted error when trying to access B: from dos.




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Re: 32bits and 3G memory limit

2010-06-21 Thread Eero Volotinen
2010/6/21 deloptes delop...@yahoo.com:
 Eero Volotinen wrote:

 $ grep -i pae /boot/config* || echo no found
 no found

 I think it is included in bigmem kernel ?

 try apt-cache search linux-image | grep bigmem ?

 thanks for pointing out this, because I was curious and grepped the config
 files on my 32bit system.

 grep -i pae /boot/config*
 /boot/config-2.6.26.2s1:# CONFIG_X86_PAE is not set
 /boot/config-2.6.26.2s1.old:# CONFIG_X86_PAE is not set
 /boot/config-2.6.26.5s1:# CONFIG_X86_PAE is not set

 but it seems that in newer once it's gone

 ls -1 /boot/config*
 /boot/config
 /boot/config-2.4.26-acl-emo
 /boot/config-2.4.26-h323-acl-emo
 /boot/config-2.6.26.2s1
 /boot/config-2.6.26.2s1.old
 /boot/config-2.6.26.5s1
 /boot/config-2.6.28.5eko2
 /boot/config-2.6.28.5eko2.old
 /boot/config-2.6.30.10eko2
 /boot/config-2.6.30.6eko2
 /boot/config-2.6.30.6eko2.old
 /boot/config-2.6.31eko2
 /boot/config-2.6.31eko2.old
 /boot/config-2.6.32.7eko2
 /boot/config-2.6.32.7eko2.old
 /boot/config-2.6.33eko2
 /boot/config.old

 surprise surprise - when making statements by theory people should check in
 practice

PAE is enabled on 686-bigmem kernels at least, I just checked it.

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Re: Between a Rock and a Hard Place (Installing Squeeze)

2010-06-21 Thread Alan Chandler

On 21/06/10 14:10, Alan Chandler wrote:
...


b) Try and dynamically change the libblkid1.so.1 file once the installer
has booted.


Touch wood! After a couple of abortive attempts due to finger trouble 
and some strange loop the partitioner got into wanting to change 
partition tables but not format filesystems I seem to have created my 
filesystems and am in to the Installing the Base System phase now.


So it does seem to work

To be clear, I downloaded the sid .deb for this package and extracted 
the libblkid.so.1.1.0 file in it and copied into the root directory of 
the installation usb stick I had created earlier


I booted up the installer and got to the part where it wanted to 
partition the  disks.  I then used ALT f2 to get another console


The original media was mounted on /hd-media, so I just copied it across 
from there are put it in the /lib directory


I then removed the libblkid.so.1 file in that directory and symlinked 
that file instead to the new file I just copied in.


I then went back to the installation (using ALT f1) and selected GO 
BACK and then re-entered through the Detect Disks phase (I am not 
sure it is necessary, but I was playing it safe).


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Re: Between a Rock and a Hard Place (Installing Squeeze)

2010-06-21 Thread Huang, Tao
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 9:10 PM, Alan Chandler
a...@chandlerfamily.org.uk wrote:
 I have spent the last couple of days (intermittently) failing get a usb
 bootable installation for squeeze that will work with my hardware and AMD-64
 (I have inadvertently built an i386 system [twice] - because I have an old
 squeeze installation on an SD card that I failed to add the architecture
 label to).

 I have a server which has no cd.  Only real possibility is to boot from a
 usb memory stick.  Fortunately with the fact that I have an SDHC card to USB
 adaptor I have plenty of them large enough.

if you already have grub, no external boot media is needed for debian
installation. fetch the netinst vmlinuz and initrd files, boot with
them and install from the internet.

happy to know that you've found a workaround.


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Re: ATI video issue on Lenny

2010-06-21 Thread Roger Leigh
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 09:49:13PM +1000, Open Source.Lives wrote:
 Hi there,
 
 Is anyone having any issues with ATI latest drivers rending the screen
 (blank) useless to use at random times, this doesn't allow me to use the
 ctl+alt+(F1,F2,F3,F4,F5,F6) to restart Xorg? But instead requires me to
 need for me to RMA on the motherboard.

I noticed problems a few days back when I upgraded from
linux-image-2.6.32-3-amd64 (which worked) to linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64
which does not (-3 works mostly OK, though some opengl programs display
as black squares in place of windows which -5 has random flickering
pixels all over the screen and sometimes is completely black from boot,
though opengl works OK when it's displaying).

Might be worth trying a slightly older kernel in case it's just this
regresssion biting you.  I'm using a Mobility Radeon HD 3400 on a
Toshiba laptop.


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Re: Torrents killing my conection

2010-06-21 Thread Mark
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 1:24 AM, ABS Doug absd...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 2:04 AM, Mark mamar...@gmail.com wrote:

  Exactly.  I'm hoping his dvd download via Iceweasel fails, since that
 would
  point directly to a driver issue.  If it succeeds, that means the
 problemo
  is with the torrent software.

 Iceweasel, jigdo both worked. Also I've tried I think 5 different
 torrent software.



Thanks for testing it, so at this point you know it has to be something
specific to torrents - you can rule out any advice people are giving about
buying a better router, blah blah blah, since it works in XP and Ubuntu
9.04.


On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 6:44 AM, Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote:



  Then why does it succeed when XP is the client, and for me when the
torrent is non-pirate?


Yeah this is just a weird scenario now that he's said he can download via
Iceweasel and jigdo in the same Debian installation.  So it's not a driver
issue apparently.


Re: 32bits and 3G memory limit

2010-06-21 Thread Ron Johnson

On 06/21/2010 10:09 AM, Aaron Toponce wrote:

On 6/20/2010 10:32 AM, T o n g wrote:

Is the 3G memory access limit is the natural one, or something
superficial imposed by M$? I mean, does 32bits Linux (the i386
architecture) has such 3G limit as well?


I'm not familiar with M$, but if you're referring to MS, short for
Microsoft, then no. Sorry, pet peeve, but M$, Micro$oft, and the
like, come across as quite immature, and very fanboy.


Very 1990s, I'd say.


A 32-bit system, is a system that can address at most 2^32 bits of
memory for any given process.


The traditional definition of a CPU's bitness is the width of it's 
registers, not the amount memory it can access.



  Most 32-bit kernels these days, however,
can address much more thanks to the physical address extensions (PAE),
typically 64 GB. But that still means that each process can only address
2^32, or 4GB of RAM.



Because address lines are not the same as data lines.  (Unless 
they are multiplexed, but conceptually they are still different. 
Anyway, engineers only do that when die space is more important that 
performance, and that hasn't been the case on the desktop is 20 
years.)


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Re: How to change the console into UTF-8 mode for FreeBSD kernels?

2010-06-21 Thread Zoran Kolic
  It's really annoying if the console isn't in UTF-8 mode as every bit of
  my system is in Unicode to prevent any compatibility problems.

I run freebsd as my everyday node. Pure ascii is what it has.
Unicode could be seen and written if you use uxterm in graphi-
cal mode. Setting language and keyboard layout might be very
different on debian, so I hesitate to answer for console mode.
The bsd kernel and debian surrounding are not my cup of tea at
this moment. Bsd tribes stick to ascii as possible. I would
avoid to trick the kernel with unicode calls.
Best regards

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Re: Configuring the Huawei E620 dongle to work using wvdial

2010-06-21 Thread Ken Heard
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Further to my original post in this thread, these lines in it seem to be
the crucial ones:

 -- Carrier detected.  Waiting for prompt.
 -- Don't know what to do!  Starting pppd and hoping for the best.

Wvdial appears to be waiting for a response but is not getting it; so it
consequently disconnects the modem.

Since the dongle modem I tried to use has not been registered or paid
for -- either for the modem itself or for time on it (I want to pay as I
go, rather than have a contract) -- I wonder whether it is locked.

I asked one of the Vodafone people at the local shop whether the modem
is locked until a Vodafone person unlocks it, whether or not a payment
is made.  He claimed that they are not locked.

I don't think he is correct, and so my question to you is whether you
know if such modems are locked until unlocked when someone buys one.

I think they must be locked at first.  Otherwise anybody could use it
without paying.

The Vodafone people know how to install these modems on machines using a
Windows or Mac operating system, but they don't know what happens when
the files stored on the memory part of the dongle are run.  So, they
would not know whether the modem would be locked or not, nor probably
would they care as long as it works.  If if did not they would not know
what to do.

I expect before the week is out to use the same dongle a Windows laptop.
 If works on such a machine after it is paid and some time is bought for
it, and then afterwards it works on my Debian Lenny box, then I will
know that the modem must have been locked when I was trying it earlier.

In the meantime I would appreciate any views on the locking issue.

Regards, Ken Heard
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Re: Torrents killing my conection

2010-06-21 Thread Klistvud

Dne, 21. 06. 2010 15:44:47 je Ron Johnson napisal(a):


The why does it succeed when XP is the client, and for me when the  
torrent is non-pirate?




Well, for one, XP is a castrated OS (the notorious limit on concurrent  
'half-open' connections being just one of its many self-imposed  
limitations); if you could castrate your Debian in a similar way, it  
would probably become just as router-friendly, the question is, who'd  
really *want* a Debian that was *that* powerless. As for why it  
succeeds with non-pirate torrents, two possibilities come to mind:  
firstly, these torrents may be more correct/compliant, and the trackers  
may be more stable than the pirate ones; secondly, it could be  
related to the number of active p2p connections that get established  
for a particular torrent (you'll hardly overload a router with only a  
couple of active peers).


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Re: Torrents killing my connection

2010-06-21 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 04:30:56AM -0400, ABS Doug wrote:
 On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 12:22 AM, Huang, Tao deb...@huangtao.me wrote:
 
  so the torrents render you wireless disconnected.
 
  if your wifi adapter driver supports auto-reconnecting, everything
  should be solved. but i have no idea on how to get there.
 
  correct me if i get it wrong.
 
 My visual indicator something is wrong is when Skype goes offline. The
 signal meter shows a connection, but once Skype goes offline, I can't
 do anything until I disconnect  reconnect. I'd be able to live with
 the problem if there was a auto-reconnection, but since the connection
 doesn't actually disconnect...?

I have no real help to your specific problem, but you need to provide
some solid useful data so others can debug the problem. Based on stuff
in the other thread about what versions work and don't work, and the
above, I recommend you do the following:

1. provide for each of the two Ubuntu's and Debian the output of:

uname -a

2. provide for each of the two ubuntu's and debian the output of:

lsmod

3. provide for the working ubuntu the output of:

ifconfig -a
iwconfig -a

4. provide for the broken ubuntu and debian *before* it breaks:

ifconfig -a
iwconfig -a

5. provide for the broken ubuntu and debian *after* it breaks, but
before you do whatever you might do to fix it:

ifconfig -a
iwconfig -a

6. from any one of the version, provide the output of:

lspci

7. in the debian version, open a terminal and run, as root, `tail -f
/var/log/syslog`, then start a torrent that you know will fail. Watch
the log output in the terminal and when the torrent fails note if
there is any output. If there is any output that looks remotely
relevant, then paste that in as well.

The idea here is to give concrete information about known working
states and known broken states so people can see the difference and
maybe diagnose the problem. 

The output may be pretty long, so if you are uncomfortable submitting
it in an email, then put it up on the web somewhere. A pastebin would
be appropriate. 

hope this helps.

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2010-06-21 Thread Todd A. Jacobs
Is there some functionality in apt-cache or aptitude for displaying
recommended files, other than having to visually parse the output of
apt-cache show?

Basically, I'd just like to get a list of recommended packages from a
list of installed or prospective packages without having to use the
aptitude GUI.

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Re: Torrents killing my conection

2010-06-21 Thread Tim Clewlow

 On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 1:24 AM, ABS Doug absd...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 2:04 AM, Mark mamar...@gmail.com wrote:

  Exactly.  I'm hoping his dvd download via Iceweasel fails, since
 that
 would
  point directly to a driver issue.  If it succeeds, that means
 the
 problemo
  is with the torrent software.

 Iceweasel, jigdo both worked. Also I've tried I think 5 different
 torrent software.



 Thanks for testing it, so at this point you know it has to be
 something
 specific to torrents - you can rule out any advice people are giving
 about
 buying a better router, blah blah blah, since it works in XP and
 Ubuntu
 9.04.


 On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 6:44 AM, Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net
 wrote:



  Then why does it succeed when XP is the client, and for me when
 the
 torrent is non-pirate?


 Yeah this is just a weird scenario now that he's said he can
 download via
 Iceweasel and jigdo in the same Debian installation.  So it's not a
 driver
 issue apparently.

.

I would still like to know the answer to one simple question.

Does restarting the modem/router bring the network back up?

If the answer is yes, then the problem is on the modem/router.

Tim


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Re: Torrents killing my conection

2010-06-21 Thread Mark
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 11:12 AM, Tim Clewlow t...@clewlow.org wrote:


 I would still like to know the answer to one simple question.

 Does restarting the modem/router bring the network back up?

 If the answer is yes, then the problem is on the modem/router.


How can this be true when the same machine, same hardware, different OS's
downloads the torrent fine?  The modem/router/ISP is common to all
situations here.  If the modem/router needs to be brought back up wouldn't
it be because something in Debian or the non-working Ubuntu isn't handling
the torrents properly?


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