Mike Genkin invites you to use Boxbe
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Re: Don't drink and dupload ;-) ( Colla de sosos !!! ... i potser alguna sosa. #2 )
ping broadcast i tal? o que? El dv 25 de 06 de 2010 a les 13:02 +0200, en/na Orestes Mas va escriure: El Dimecres dia Dimecres 23 Juny 2010 hub...@telefonica.net hub...@telefonica.net hub...@telefonica.net va escriure: Mensaje original De: lorajo...@paranoici.org Fecha: 22/06/2010 9:58 Para: Orestes Masores...@tsc.upc.edu CC: debian-user-catalan@lists.debian.org Asunto: Re: Donamp;#39;t drink and dupload ;-) ( Colla de sosos !!! ... i potser alguna sosa. #2 ) Jo en principi m'apunto, i sospito que com a mínim en Hubble i Pinto vindrien... Ja sabia jo que acabaria sent sospitós d'alguna cosa. Dons sospites be. apa, a veure si ens decidim d'una vegada. A partir del 7, que és quan torna el Serni. Potser el divendres 9, estaria bé? Orestes. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-catalan-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1278413736.8090.0.ca...@chryse-64
Re: Don't drink and dupload ;-) ( Colla de sosos !!! ... i potser alguna sosa. #2 )
Jo diria que falten 3 dies El Tue, 06 Jul 2010 12:55:36 +0200 xavi lorajo...@paranoici.org va dir: ping broadcast i tal? o que? El dv 25 de 06 de 2010 a les 13:02 +0200, en/na Orestes Mas va escriure: El Dimecres dia Dimecres 23 Juny 2010 hub...@telefonica.net hub...@telefonica.net hub...@telefonica.net va escriure: Mensaje original De: lorajo...@paranoici.org Fecha: 22/06/2010 9:58 Para: Orestes Masores...@tsc.upc.edu CC: debian-user-catalan@lists.debian.org Asunto: Re: Donamp;#39;t drink and dupload ;-) ( Colla de sosos !!! ... i potseralguna sosa. #2 ) Jo en principi m'apunto, i sospito que com a mínim en Hubble i Pinto vindrien... Ja sabia jo que acabaria sent sospitós d'alguna cosa. Dons sospites be. apa, a veure si ens decidim d'una vegada. A partir del 7, que és quan torna el Serni. Potser el divendres 9, estaria bé? Orestes. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-catalan-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1278413736.8090.0.ca...@chryse-64 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-catalan-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100706143430.0e05ec4c.hub...@telefonica.net
Re: Don't drink and dupload ;-) ( Colla de sosos !!! ... i potser alguna sosa. #2 )
Jo responc al ping abans de que passi el timeout Per si falten catadors, eh? Em faltara alguna dada espai-temps gps-utc-gmt i tal pero em sembla que aixo li falta a tothom On Tue, 6 Jul 2010 14:34:30 +0200, hubble hub...@telefonica.net wrote: Jo diria que falten 3 dies El Tue, 06 Jul 2010 12:55:36 +0200 xavi lorajo...@paranoici.org va dir: ping broadcast i tal? o que? El dv 25 de 06 de 2010 a les 13:02 +0200, en/na Orestes Mas va escriure: El Dimecres dia Dimecres 23 Juny 2010 hub...@telefonica.net hub...@telefonica.net hub...@telefonica.net va escriure: Mensaje original De: lorajo...@paranoici.org Fecha: 22/06/2010 9:58 Para: Orestes Masores...@tsc.upc.edu CC: debian-user-catalan@lists.debian.org Asunto: Re: Don#39;t drink and dupload ;-) ( Colla de sosos !!! ... i potser alguna sosa. #2 ) Jo en principi m'apunto, i sospito que com a mínim en Hubble i Pinto vindrien... Ja sabia jo que acabaria sent sospitós d'alguna cosa. Dons sospites be. apa, a veure si ens decidim d'una vegada. A partir del 7, que és quan torna el Serni. Potser el divendres 9, estaria bé? Orestes. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-catalan-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1278413736.8090.0.ca...@chryse-64 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-catalan-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87f8dbc13d29afd05093408bfbf92...@sindominio.net
Re: Don't drink and dupload ;-) ( Colla de sosos !!! ... i potser alguna sosa. #2 )
A Dimarts, 6 de juliol de 2010 19:57:33, casti va escriure: Jo responc al ping abans de que passi el timeout Per si falten catadors, eh? Em faltara alguna dada espai-temps gps-utc-gmt i tal pero em sembla que aixo li falta a tothom A veure si el Serni torna de vacances i fa una proposta. Orestes. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-catalan-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201007062230.40942.ores...@tsc.upc.edu
Re: mount: mounting /dev on /root/dev failed: No such file or directory
On 07/05/2010 09:51 PM, Erwan David wrote: Le Mon 5/07/2010, mess-mate disait c'est un noyau 2.6.30. J'ai le noyau 2.6.32-5 de squeeze mais il ne fonctionne pas avec la carte NVIDIA. Installer le driver (binary de nvidia) comme je fait pour les noyaux précédents ne marche pas non plus. Faut-il que je compile un noyau moi-même ou en existe-il un de debian ? amicalement Tu peux essayer nouveau (marche très bien chez moi) ou utiliser le paquet nvidia-kernel-dkms qui compile un driver nvidia pour le kernel installé. Bonjour, merci à tous pour l'aide. J'ai fini par compiler un noyau moi-même, le 2.6.34 que j'ai pris chez kernel.org. Lors de la compilation j'avais un message 'asm-x86 does not exist' !! Ca marche à merveille. L'ennui c'est que ma lenny sur un autre dd ne boot toujours pas du fait qu'il utilise un autre noyau. amicalement
Re: fax repondeur sous dedian
On Tue, Jul 06, 2010 at 02:21:42AM +0200, JF Straeten wrote: - la certitude (technique) de l'envoi : le doc est craché directement sur l'appareil destinataire, sans intermédiaire qui induit un risque dans la chaîne de transmission ; Sauf cas de réception logicielle, par ex. chez Free tu peux recevoir un fax qui t'est ensuite transmis en PDF. Ou appareil de réception defectueux qui marche suffisament pour recevoir le doc et pas assez pour l'imprimer. Ou attaquant qui se place entre ton fax et le destinataire et se fait passer pour celui-ci. Je ne vois pas comment on peut être certain de quoi que ce soit. - la preuve (technique et juridique) de l'envoi : grâce au rapport de transmission. Certainement pas une preuve technique, et uniquement un preuve juridique parce que les juristes ne comprenent pas très bien la technique peut-être. Après tout, ces gens-là trouvent qu'une signature au stylo peut prouver qqch :) À y regarder un peu, c'est plus fiable que le recommandé postal. Je ne suis pas convaincu. Y. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100706065420.gf12...@naryves.com
Re: Forcer la déconnexion ssh
Goldy go...@goldenfish.info writes: Utiliser le caractère d'echapement. Par défaut c'est '~' et '~.' ferme la connexion. Pour l'aide en ligne '~?' et 'man ssh' pour plus d'infos! A+ Merci pour les réponses. J'avais essayé justement et ça n'avait pas marcher. Après un nouvel essai, ça fonctionne. Il est parfois nécessaire d'utiliser la touche entrée avant le ~ -- Rémi Vanicat -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87eifhuker@debian.org
Re: fax repondeur sous dedian
Bonjour, Le 05/07/2010 22:13, Jean-Yves F. Barbier a écrit : Dommage que les fabricants laissent tomber le modem RTC, surtout que tout le monde n'a pas l'ISDN et que le fax reste quand même le seul moyen juridique de contestation (à moins que je n'ai loupé une diarrhée législative, ce qui est tout à fait possible, même le certificat électronique n'est pas vraiment au point de ce côté là.) J'ai bien peur que le fax n'ai jamais eut de vrai valeur juridique... Attention, je ne suis pas juriste. Néanmoins, j'ai abordé ce point avec quelques personnes qui savent un peu de quoi elles parlent question validité juridique enfin je pense. Contrairement à un mythe, tout à potentiellement une valeur juridique, mais rien n'est vraiment fiable. En fait, même les paroles ont une valeur juridique, comme une conversation téléphonique. Mais il faut une preuve de ce qui a été dit/écrit pour que ça devienent opposable devant un tribunal. C'est la fiabilité de cette preuve qui va donner une valeur juridique au bouzin. La preuve devant bien sur êtres obtenue légalement sans ça elle n'est pas recevable. Une des personnes qui m'a expliqué cela travaille dans la finance, ou les ordres d'opérations doivent aller vite (pas question de faire un courrier). Et tout ce fait par téléphone (v'la que je demande un transfert de je ne sais combien d'Eur par téléphone...). Par question que ça soit contestable. Or dans les finaces (enfin dans certain cas) les conversation doivent êtres enregistré (pour permettre à la brigade financière d'écouter s'il y a eut délit) ; ces enregistrements peuvent servir pour prouver qu'un ordre d'un client à été donné. A coté de ça, un courrier recommandé bien que pouvant servir de preuve peut êtres contestable. En fait, il permet à l'expéditeur de prouver qu'il a envoyé quelque chose ça en plus. Il ne permet par ex pas de prouve au destinataire que l'expéditeur est bien celui qu'il prétend (enfin pas de façon certaine). C'est AMHA, un peu comme la sécurité informatique, ce qu'il y a à prouver /sécuriser va justifier les besoin de pouvoir le prouver juridiquement. Personnellement, je dirais que le fax, à une fiabilité comparable au mail non signé : ce qu'il y a de moins sécurisé. Falsifier un fax est à la porté de n'importe quel faussaire, c'est une photocopie de mauvaise qualité ;un petit coup de Gimp est le tour est joué. Les indications ajoutées par le fax sont indiquées par l'expéditeur est facile à changer. Il y a le cas d'une personne qui c'est fait évader de prison avec un faut fax ! Il y a quelques entreprises qui se contentent d'un mail pour valider une commande, même si c'est bien rare. A l'opposé, le mail signé numériquement me semble le plus dur a contrefaire, est donc potentiellement la meilleur preuve juridique. Après c'est une histoire d'expert devans un tribunal (si un expert affirme que le fax est infalsifiable un magistrat pourrait le croire). -- Debiannement, Julien -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c32e948.6010...@remiremont.fr
Mike Genkin invites you to use Boxbe
I'd like to share approved contacts with you on Boxbe Here's the link: https://www.boxbe.com/register?tc=3568602843_959471398 -Mike This message was sent at the request of genkstar...@yahoo.com. If you want to opt-out of invitations from Boxbe members, use this link: https://www.boxbe.com/unsubscribe?email=debian-user-fre...@lists.debian.orgtc=3568602843_959471398 Boxbe, Inc. | 2390 Chestnut Street #201 | San Francisco, CA 94123
Re: fax repondeur sous dedian
Bonjour, Le 06/07/2010 02:21, JF Straeten a écrit : On Mon, Jul 05, 2010 at 10:32:46PM +0200, Jean-Yves F. Barbier wrote: Un fax a la même valeur qu'une photocpie. Le seul moyen ncontestable c'est le Telex. Vi, c'est vrai, mais en dessous de €3000 il me semble que le fax fait aussi foi. Je ne connais pas la valeur juridique ou du moins la fiabilité du telex. Concernant la valeur juridique voir mon mail en réponse à J'an-Yves. Connais pas la législation française, et on n'a rien tel en Belgique, mais le fax n'est pas près de disparaître pour les raisons de : Le fax n'est pas prêt de disparaitre, surtout car même dans une ML dédié à un OS aussi libre est fiable que débian, on trouve des gens pour lui donné des vertus que je fax n'a pourtant pas. - la certitude (technique) de l'envoi : le doc est craché directement sur l'appareil destinataire, sans intermédiaire qui induit un risque dans la chaîne de transmission ; Ouais, enfin de moins en moins. Car de plus en plus converti en PDF (ou autre) puis transmit par des procédés plutôt informatique. - la preuve (technique et juridique) de l'envoi : grâce au rapport de transmission. Preuve d'une fiabilité des plus discutable. Prenons un cas concret : là ou je travail. Les fax arrivent sur un copieur en réseaux, ce dernier les converti en PDF puis enregistre sur un serveur de fichier dans un répertoire qui va bien (*). Si le serveur n'est pas accessible, et bien le fax est bel et bien perdu, l'expéditeur ayant bien reçus l'accusé de transmission. J'ai fait quelque test à ce sujet (j'avoue que je considère ça comme un bug du copieur/fax) ! '*) En fait ça ne concerne qu'un seul numéros de fax, on va passer à Hylafax un de ces quatre matins, pour ce fax est tous les autres. À y regarder un peu, c'est plus fiable que le recommandé postal. Le fax a été une superbe invention dans les années 80. quelque chose qui a énormément aidé toutes les entreprise et administrations. Mais dans les annés 2000 le fax est totalement dépassé, il cumule tous les défauts : le fax est ce qu'il ya de moins fiable (très facile à falsifier), de moins sur (aucune certitude de transmission), n'a pas de valeur juridique réel... Bref, vaut mieux un bon e-mail qu'un mauvais fax ! Vous comparer ça au courrier recommandé de La Poste, ça me fait peur. ;) -- Librement, Julien -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c32efa5.7040...@remiremont.fr
Re: Driver 'sd' needs updating - please use bus_type methods
Le 05-07-2010, à 19:43:32 +0200, mess-mate (messm...@free.fr) a écrit : Bonjour, Salut, quelqu'un pourrait me dire ce qu'il faut faire exactement ? Rien d'après ce que j'avais pu lire quelque part. D'ailleurs j'imagine que ta machine fonctionne correctement malgré ce message, tout comme chez moi. s. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100706090049.ga24...@localdomain
Re: fax repondeur sous dedian
Le mardi 06 juillet 2010 à 02:21 +0200, JF Straeten a écrit : Connais pas la législation française, et on n'a rien tel en Belgique, mais le fax n'est pas près de disparaître pour les raisons de : - la certitude (technique) de l'envoi : le doc est craché directement sur l'appareil destinataire, sans intermédiaire qui induit un risque dans la chaîne de transmission ; - la preuve (technique et juridique) de l'envoi : grâce au rapport de transmission. Ça c'est du pipo, on peut trafiquer du fax bien plus facilement que du mail crypté-signé et la majorité des fax sont purement virtuels. Ce qui était vrai autrefois ne l'est plus du tout avec l'évolution des techniques. Par contre c'est vrai que le mail ne garantis pas la lecture, donc sans réponse, pas d'élément de preuve. À y regarder un peu, c'est plus fiable que le recommandé postal. (-_-); Le recommandé postal est quand même assez fiable dans les régions ou le facteur (intérimaire) fait son boulot, en ne déposant pas un unique avis de passage sur le paillasson pour économiser du temps, ou en ne faisant pas signer le voisin ou le concierge sur un pli nominatif. Bref, l'avantage du fax est essentiellement côté lecteur : Ça arrive souvent imprimé et, par habitudes historique et manque d'information/compétences, les gens le lisent chaque jour contrairement à leur boite aux lettres spamifiée de FAI ou de hotmail. Après ça conserve une certaine valeur juridique de présomption de preuve, a mon avis injustifiée. Mais a une époque ou l'hado-IP forgée par 3 gus dans un garage est censée être une preuve... Amicalement -- Jérôme -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1278414224.3609.25.ca...@jdautz.aranha.ici
Re: Driver 'sd' needs updating - please use bus_type methods
On 07/06/2010 11:00 AM, steve wrote: Le 05-07-2010, à 19:43:32 +0200, mess-mate (messm...@free.fr) a écrit : Bonjour, Salut, quelqu'un pourrait me dire ce qu'il faut faire exactement ? Rien d'après ce que j'avais pu lire quelque part. D'ailleurs j'imagine que ta machine fonctionne correctement malgré ce message, tout comme chez moi. s. En effet, elle fonctionne comme il faut. Selon mes googles ça date déjà et existe toujours. Je ferais donc avce... amicalement
[résolu] iceweasel -- Gestionaire de certificat -- vos certificats -- err eur import
Bonjour, J'avais des problèmes dans Iceweasel pour importer mon certificat .pfx de impots.gouv.fr afin d'accéder à mon espace: voici l'erreur: Échec de récupération du fichier PKCS#12 pour une raison inconnue. j'ai trouvé ici la solution : http://forum.debian-fr.org/viewtopic.php?f=3t=21498p=250178 il suffit de désactiver le module complémentaire torbutton et depuis, ça a importé et j'accède. En espérant que ça sera utile parce que c'est pas évident évident ;) cordialement hého -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/i0v9p1$4u...@dough.gmane.org
[HS] Apache en reverse proxy devant IIS
Salut à tous, J'ai mis apache en reverse proxy devant mon serveur IIS, et maintenant les urls qui contiennent des accents (graves ou aigus) ne sont plus trouvées... J'ai essayé de modifié le adddefaultcharset (à utf-8, à ISO-8859-15, à off), mais rien n'y fait... Vous auriez une piste, de quelles infos avez-vous besoin ? D'avance merci Romaric -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c334d62.3080...@audaxis.com
Re: [HS] Apache en reverse proxy devant IIS
Le Tue, 06 Jul 2010 17:36:02 +0200, Romaric DEFAUX r...@audaxis.com a écrit : Salut à tous, J'ai mis apache en reverse proxy devant mon serveur IIS, et maintenant les urls qui contiennent des accents (graves ou aigus) ne sont plus trouvées... J'ai essayé de modifié le adddefaultcharset (à utf-8, à ISO-8859-15, à off), mais rien n'y fait... Vous auriez une piste, de quelles infos avez-vous besoin ? a2enmod recode? -- Astrology... just a bunch of Taurus. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100706183915.180e1...@anubis.defcon1
surveillance d'un raid materiel
Bonjour, Je cherche un outil pour pouvoir surveiller un RAID matériel sur un PowerEdge R310 (Contrôleur PERC H200). J'ai vu openmanager qui est fournis pas DELL, mais il n'y a pas de paquet debian et ils sont assez floue sur le fonctionnement de ce programme ailleurs que sur Redhat, suse... Avant que je me lance dans ce soft, est-ce qu'il y a une autre solution, de préférence open source et debian ? ++ Mourad -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c3376e9.2050...@nativobject.net
Re: surveillance d'un raid materiel
Le Tue, 06 Jul 2010 20:33:13 +0200, C. Mourad Jaber m...@nativobject.net a écrit : Je cherche un outil pour pouvoir surveiller un RAID matériel sur un PowerEdge R310 (Contrôleur PERC H200). J'ai vu openmanager qui est fournis pas DELL, mais il n'y a pas de paquet debian et ils sont assez floue sur le fonctionnement de ce programme ailleurs que sur Redhat, suse... Perso, j'ai plusieurs fois eu à faire avec de l'existant sous SuSe par le passé, et l'adaptation à Debian n'a jamais vraiment posée de PB. cependant, voici un post récent: Issue: The H200 PERC RAID controller requires device drivers that are only present in Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5.4 and above. Avant que je me lance dans ce soft, est-ce qu'il y a une autre solution, de préférence open source et debian ? Apparemment non à cette date; le driver semble avoir été réalisé directement par dell et n'apparaît pas dans la base de connaissances de LSI, cela veut dire en Gal que le donneur d'ordre a demandé un changement dans le masquage du chip, le rendant donc inopérent avec l'original. Beaucoup de constructeurs merdeux font cela, et de plus en plus, parce que les Sces marketing leur disent que c'est la seule manière de garder leur clients captifs (cf également le lecteur d'empreintes installé sur les vaïo avec un firmware modifié par sony, au hasard.) La seule solution est de ne pas manquer de les dénoncer publiquement dès que l'occasion se présente et de ne pas utiliser un hardware drivé par une solt proprio (ou même open-source, mais donc le developpement n'est pas public et l'accès aux sources aléatoire.) Pour éviter cela, il faut un minimum de veille technologique plus une étude avant achat. Dans ton cas, soit tu peux utiliser la carte juste en tant que contrôleur, et tu passes par du Software RAID, soit tu essayes d'adapter la solt RH en espérant qu'elle ne te pêtera pas dans le doigts, soit tu changes pour un vrai contrôleur, référencé, supporté etc. Maintenant, passer par du SW-RAID apporte rarement des PBs de perfs (sauf cas très extrêmes); le code est très stable et a subi des tas de bonnes modifs le rendant top-moumoute, donc pas d'inquiétude à avoir (sauf pour ceux qui persistent à croire que la dernière version, c'est la meilleure!, Pro, en informatique, ça veut d'abord dire stable et éprouvé...) -- X-rated movies are all alike ... the only thing they leave to the imagination is the plot. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100706210615.32dff...@anubis.defcon1
Re: surveillance d'un raid materiel
Le 06/07/2010 20:33, C. Mourad Jaber a écrit : Bonjour, Je cherche un outil pour pouvoir surveiller un RAID matériel sur un PowerEdge R310 (Contrôleur PERC H200). J'ai vu openmanager qui est fournis pas DELL, mais il n'y a pas de paquet debian et ils sont assez floue sur le fonctionnement de ce programme ailleurs que sur Redhat, suse... Avant que je me lance dans ce soft, est-ce qu'il y a une autre solution, de préférence open source et debian ? Rajouter au source list deb http://ftp./sara/./nl//pub/sara-/omsa/ dell sara Cela dit, comme précisé par JYFB, je préfère nettement faire du raid logiciel sur mes Dell -- Daniel -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c339181.4010...@tootai.net
Mike Genkin invites you to use Boxbe
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Re: OT tomcat en servidor heardless
El lun, 05-07-2010 a las 09:13 -0500, Moises Alberto Lindo Gutarra escribió: Quita ese parametro. Sólo sirve si el servidor linux no tiene instalado el entorno gráfico y se quiere manipular en tiempo de ejecución imagenes. Es que el servidor es dedicado, tipo blade y no tiene consola, por lo que es absurdo instalarle un entorno gráfico que nadie va a poder usar. El día 5 de julio de 2010 08:02, Trujillo Carmona, Antonio antonio.trujillo.s...@juntadeandalucia.es escribió: Estoy intentando montar un servidor (para paras el tomcat de windows a linux) me he encontrado con que hay que ponerle un parametro que no era necesario en windows (-Djava.awt.headless=true), pero así y todo A la hora de crear una clase que hereda de Applet se lanza la siguiente excepción: java.awt.HeadlessException -- Por favor, NO utilice formatos de archivo propietarios para el intercambio de documentos, como DOC y XLS, sino HTML, RTF, TXT, CSV o cualquier otro que no obligue a utilizar un programa de un fabricante concreto para tratar la información contenida en él. SALUD. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1278334971.2468.14.ca...@trujo.huvn.diraya.sspa.junta-andalucia.es -- Atentamente, Moisés Alberto Lindo Gutarra Asesor - Desarrollador Java / Open Source Linux Registered User #431131 - http://counter.li.org/ Cel: (511) 995081720 MSN: mli...@tumisolutions.com -- Por favor, NO utilice formatos de archivo propietarios para el intercambio de documentos, como DOC y XLS, sino HTML, RTF, TXT, CSV o cualquier otro que no obligue a utilizar un programa de un fabricante concreto para tratar la información contenida en él. SALUD. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1278397766.2456.1.ca...@trujo.huvn.diraya.sspa.junta-andalucia.es
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Re: Problemas con Monitor HD (1920x1080)
El Tue, 06 Jul 2010 00:49:52 -0400, Francisco Javier Aravena Jimenez escribió: (...) Instale los Drivers privativos (Los ultimos) genere un XOrg y agregue los valores pero al reiniciar no entra en modo gráfico... ¿Qué valores pusiste en el xorg.conf, exactamente? Sólo deberías tener dos cosas: - Sección Module Load glx - Sección Device Driver nvidia El resto, dejarlo como estaba. Si tienes algún problema, revisa el /var/ log/Xorg.0.log. si elimino Xorg, entra pero con una resolución de 1024x768... Recuerda que también puedes probar con el driver nv (2D) y el nuevo, nouveau (para este último necesitas activar KMS). La verdad no se por donde empezar, solo una vez me dio la resolución correcta de hay nada mas, no se como poder forzarla al poner manualmente los datos al xorg no funca... ¿Qué entorno gráfico, GNOME, KDE, otro...? ¿Entrada VGA, DVI-D, otra...? Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.07.06.13.23...@gmail.com
Re: OT tomcat en servidor heardless
2010/7/7 Trujillo Carmona, Antonio antonio.trujillo.s...@juntadeandalucia.es: El lun, 05-07-2010 a las 09:13 -0500, Moises Alberto Lindo Gutarra escribió: Quita ese parametro. Sólo sirve si el servidor linux no tiene instalado el entorno gráfico y se quiere manipular en tiempo de ejecución imagenes. Es que el servidor es dedicado, tipo blade y no tiene consola, por lo que es absurdo instalarle un entorno gráfico que nadie va a poder usar. El día 5 de julio de 2010 08:02, Trujillo Carmona, Antonio antonio.trujillo.s...@juntadeandalucia.es escribió: Estoy intentando montar un servidor (para paras el tomcat de windows a linux) me he encontrado con que hay que ponerle un parametro que no era necesario en windows (-Djava.awt.headless=true), pero así y todo A la hora de crear una clase que hereda de Applet se lanza la siguiente excepción: java.awt.HeadlessException -- Atentamente, Moisés Alberto Lindo Gutarra Asesor - Desarrollador Java / Open Source Linux Registered User #431131 - http://counter.li.org/ Cel: (511) 995081720 MSN: mli...@tumisolutions.com Buenos Días: Aunque esto sale de la línea de discusión de la lista, trataré de ayudarte un poco. En efecto, la propiedad -Djava.awt.headless=true es necesaria si estas haciendo render de imágenes, particularmente si la aplicación trabaja en un ambiente que no cuenta con un ambiente gráfico iniciado. Es importante este ambiente, para que la JVM pueda realizar y apoyar la generación de imágenes. En aplicaciones WEB esto es particularmente importante, ya que la mayoría de los casos, estas no cuentan con una cónsola gráfica para desplegar las salidas. Y si usan JasperReport o cualquier otra aplicación de generación de reportes, se debe especificar esta opción, para que genere los gráficos asociados a los reportes (inclusive si son sólamente texto). Ahora bien, la clase Applet genera sus gráficas usando el sandbox que le ofrece el navegador web, o el display según se use. Aunque desconozco el uso que le das a la clase, si es presentar esta en el navegador, ella debería ejecutarse en el JVM del navegador, que escapa de los dominios del servidor. Si lo usas internamente, dentro del servidor, la clase Applet no hace caso a la propiedad headless, ya que su uso esta restringido a la disponibilidad de un display. En este caso, pudieras hacer uso de un FrameBuffer, y apuntar tu aplicación hacia él. Estos sitios explican con un poco mas de detalle este problema, y presentan algunas soluciones: http://java.sun.com/developer/technicalArticles/J2SE/Desktop/headless/ http://stackoverflow.com/questions/445049/java-awt-headlessexception-applet-not-displayed http://stackoverflow.com/questions/508733/java-awt-headlessexception-applet-not-displayed-part-2 Espero te sirva de ayuda. Saludos, -- German Cardozo Chirinos -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktimpejvalwtmnlf0c-ancez3cxfaejbksncqy...@mail.gmail.com
Problemas espacio.
Buenas, En mi servidor samba me quedan unos 50 Gb libres de unos 2 Tb que tengo para toda la empresa. No tengo montado cuotas y ahora me encuentro con el problema de que los usuarios se han comido todo el espacio. Los jefes me han dicho que no hay pasta para mas discos (esta crisis...). Entonces, para solucionar el problema he pensado en hacer un barrido y buscar ficheros mp3, wav, avi, etc. y sobre todo copias de copias de copias que han ido haciendo los propios usuarios. Por ejemplo, usuario1 q -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/3097dd4d1d657b63ec0db489556f5...@unamuno.dap.es
Re: Problemas espacio.
El día 6 de julio de 2010 11:05, Esteban Torres etor...@dap.es escribió: Buenas, En mi servidor samba me quedan unos 50 Gb libres de unos 2 Tb que tengo para toda la empresa. No tengo montado cuotas y ahora me encuentro con el problema de que los usuarios se han comido todo el espacio. Los jefes me han dicho que no hay pasta para mas discos (esta crisis...). Entonces, para solucionar el problema he pensado en hacer un barrido y buscar ficheros mp3, wav, avi, etc. y sobre todo copias de copias de copias que han ido haciendo los propios usuarios. Por ejemplo, usuario1 q -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/3097dd4d1d657b63ec0db489556f5...@unamuno.dap.es Es una buena idea, luego de bajar la información de cada usuario a una cantidad decente, ahí si asignas cuotas. -- LARGA VIDA Y PODEROSA. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlkting37djcvnnycly6swjvcyc7ygwiwjwpv0p5...@mail.gmail.com
Fwd: Problemas espacio.
Por favor, borren el correo anterior. He pulsado el enter sin terminar Buenas, En mi servidor samba me quedan unos 50 Gb libres de unos 2 Tb que tengo para toda la empresa. No tengo montado cuotas y ahora me encuentro con el problema de que los usuarios se han comido todo el espacio. Los jefes me han dicho que no hay pasta para mas discos (esta crisis...). Entonces, para solucionar el problema he pensado en hacer un barrido y buscar ficheros mp3, wav, avi, etc. y sobre todo copias de copias de copias que han ido haciendo los propios usuarios. Por ejemplo, usuario1 que hace todos los años backup de sus ficheros locales Mis documentos en el servidor y que cuando quiere modificar algo vuelve a hacer otra copia de los mismo por que ya no se acuerda si ha modificado algo mas. En fin. Se os ocurre alguna manera de liberar espacio? Como puedo averiguar ficheros idénticos en diferentes directorios? He pensado en hacer un hash a los ficheros, funcionaria? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/6fbfda87ac4abe651f5451826845a...@unamuno.dap.es
Re: Fwd: Problemas espacio.
El mar, 06-07-2010 a las 18:12 +0200, Esteban Torres escribió: Por favor, borren el correo anterior. He pulsado el enter sin terminar Buenas, En mi servidor samba me quedan unos 50 Gb libres de unos 2 Tb que tengo para toda la empresa. No tengo montado cuotas y ahora me encuentro con el problema de que los usuarios se han comido todo el espacio. Los jefes me han dicho que no hay pasta para mas discos (esta crisis...). Entonces, para solucionar el problema he pensado en hacer un barrido y buscar ficheros mp3, wav, avi, etc. y sobre todo copias de copias de copias que han ido haciendo los propios usuarios. Por ejemplo, usuario1 que hace todos los años backup de sus ficheros locales Mis documentos en el servidor y que cuando quiere modificar algo vuelve a hacer otra copia de los mismo por que ya no se acuerda si ha modificado algo mas. En fin. Se os ocurre alguna manera de liberar espacio? Como puedo averiguar ficheros idénticos en diferentes directorios? He pensado en hacer un hash a los ficheros, funcionaria? Puedes usar un script con fdupes y hacer enlaces duros de los archivos repetidos con eso ganarás bastante espacio y los usuarios no se enterarán. A largo plazo lo mejor será limpieza y aplicar quotas. -- Saludos -- http://mariodebian.com signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Thunderbird
El 7/5/2010 9:28 AM, Camaleón escribió: El Mon, 05 Jul 2010 08:48:40 -0400, Lester Pastrana escribió: Uso thunderbird 3.0,1 y tengo una lista de filtros creados pero solo se me ejecutan cuando los correos llegan y me interesa que se ejecuten tanto para los correos que entran como para los que sales alguien puede ayudarme? Hasta donde sé, los de Mozilla tenían pensando incluir esa funcionalidad en la rama 3.x, pero no sé si ya estará disponible. Si no está (o no funciona) también puedes usar algún complemento: Send Filter https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/5538/ Saludos, Bueno o no lo agregaron o no se como hacerlo :( __ Información de ESET NOD32 Antivirus, versión de la base de firmas de virus 5254 (20100706) __ ESET NOD32 Antivirus ha comprobado este mensaje. http://www.eset.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c33771b.70...@psico.uh.cu
[¿Solución?] [Workaround] Grub y dmraid. Fallo al actualizar squeeze
El Tue, 6 Jul 2010 02:00:33 +0200 AngelD ang...@froga.net escribió: El Tue, 06 Jul 2010 00:35:35 +0200 erl erl.lis...@chips-tips.com escribió: El 05/07/10 19:09, AngelD escribió: Al intentar actualizar con aptitude, este me dice este churro de errores: Configurando linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64 (2.6.32-15) ... Running depmod. Running update-initramfs. update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-5-amd64 W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/rtl8168d-2.fw for module r8169 W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/rtl8168d-1.fw for module r8169 initrd.img(/boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-5-amd64 ) points to /boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-5-amd64 (/boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-5-amd64) -- doing nothing at /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64.postinst line 400. vmlinuz(/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-5-amd64 ) points to /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-5-amd64 (/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-5-amd64) -- doing nothing at /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64.postinst line 400. Running update-grub. Generating grub.cfg ... /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a GRUB drive for /dev/mapper/isw_bejfbiafd_raid11. Check your device.map. User postinst hook script [update-grub] exited with value 1 Si miramos la linea 400 del var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64.postinst: warn $kimage($vmlinuz_target) points to $target ($real_target) -- doing nothing por lo que intuyo puede haber algún problema entre el grub y la configuración de 'dmraid'. En su momento me costó bastante lograr que funcionara, pero ahora no recuerdo exactamente como lo hice, o si tiene alguna relación con el problema actual. Lo más parecido que he encontrado ha sido el bug 587754, pero sin solución ni apaño aparente. Saludos --- Angel http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=587754 Creo q ese warning no es indicativo de nada. Si el siguiente: usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a GRUB drive y te apunta a lo q deberías mirar: Check your device.map. Mi /boot/grub/device.map dice: (hd0)/dev/sda (hd1)/dev/sdb que es lo normal. El comando me parece que falla cuando intenta chequear la partición /boot: grub-probe -d /dev/mapper/isw_bejfbiafd_raid11 He intentado desmontar este grupo y montar uno de los discos que lo forman, pero sin desarmar el raid no hay manera que funcione. Si lograra esto, el grub-probe no se quejaría. Recuerdo haber tenido problemas con ext4 y grub2 . No será tu caso? También porque el update-initramfs me dejaba fuera el dmraid. No recuerdo bien como solucioné ni uno ni otro. Sip, también tuve problemas con ext4 y Grub que logré solucionar, y no recuerdo como. :-( Ahora sospecho que es un problema con la versión actual de Grub en Squeeze, pero mientras en otro equipo (sin dmraid) logré solucionarlo instalando el Grub de Sid, en este no encuentro forma humana de apañarlo. Bueno, si que hay forma de apañarlo, aunque la solución sea temporal y no muy limpia. Como el problema parece reside en la utilidad 'grub-probe', he cambiado esta (/usr/sbin/grub-probe) por un echo ext2, consiguiendo siempre el resultado deseado, terminando la actualización correctamente. Ahora sólo queda esperar que se resuelva el problema, para no tener que repetir esta operación tras cada actualización. Saludos --- Angel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100706205424.69fe0...@x32
Re: Thunderbird
El Tue, 06 Jul 2010 14:34:03 -0400, Lester Pastrana escribió: El 7/5/2010 9:28 AM, Camaleón escribió: Si no está (o no funciona) también puedes usar algún complemento: Send Filter https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/5538/ Bueno o no lo agregaron o no se como hacerlo :( Prueba con el complemento a ver qué resultado te da. Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.07.06.20.24...@gmail.com
Re: Fwd: Problemas espacio.
2010/7/7 mariodebian mariodeb...@gmail.com: El mar, 06-07-2010 a las 18:12 +0200, Esteban Torres escribió: Por favor, borren el correo anterior. He pulsado el enter sin terminar Buenas, En mi servidor samba me quedan unos 50 Gb libres de unos 2 Tb que tengo para toda la empresa. No tengo montado cuotas y ahora me encuentro con el problema de que los usuarios se han comido todo el espacio. Los jefes me han dicho que no hay pasta para mas discos (esta crisis...). Entonces, para solucionar el problema he pensado en hacer un barrido y buscar ficheros mp3, wav, avi, etc. y sobre todo copias de copias de copias que han ido haciendo los propios usuarios. Por ejemplo, usuario1 que hace todos los años backup de sus ficheros locales Mis documentos en el servidor y que cuando quiere modificar algo vuelve a hacer otra copia de los mismo por que ya no se acuerda si ha modificado algo mas. En fin. Se os ocurre alguna manera de liberar espacio? Como puedo averiguar ficheros idénticos en diferentes directorios? He pensado en hacer un hash a los ficheros, funcionaria? Puedes usar un script con fdupes y hacer enlaces duros de los archivos repetidos con eso ganarás bastante espacio y los usuarios no se enterarán. A largo plazo lo mejor será limpieza y aplicar quotas. -- Saludos -- http://mariodebian.com Muy Buenas Noches: Pudieras realizar primeramente una localización de archivos candidatos a ser borrados (*.mp?, *.wav, *.avi) y ver que tan significativo puede ser esto. Para ello puedes usar el siguiente comando, desde el directorio o punto de montura que contenga los archivos de usuarios: host:~# find . -type f -and \( -name *.mp? -or -name *.avi \) -exec du -h {} \; Preferiblemente redirecciona tu búsqueda a un archivo. Si decides que debes borrarlos todos, puedes ejecutar el mismo comando, cambiando el argumento -exec por algo como rm -rf {}, es decir: host:~# find . -type f -and \( -name *.mp? -or -name *.avi \) -exec rm -rf {} \; En caso de tener que ser mas selectivo, puedes ejecutar en cada directorio de usuario que decidas realizar la limpieza. Existen herramientas mas sofisticadas para realizar un inventario por tipos de archivos o Disk Usage Analyzers, como Filelight, KDirStat o Baobab. Estas de forma gráfica te pueden dat información relativa a tu uso del espacio en disco, pero dependen de una interfaz gráfica para su uso. Otro listado grande de herramientas aqui: http://freshmeat.net/search/?q=disk+space. Otra manera es ingresar en el directorio padre de todos los usuarios, dependiendo de tu estructura (ej. /home/ing o /home/admon) y ejecutar un: host:~# du -hs * para totalizar el espacio usado por cada usuario, ver quienes tienen mas espacio usado y analizar según el criterio de la organización quien debería tener menos espacio, y empezar a limpiar o realizar advertencias a estos. Te recomiendo también que revises % de inodos en uso, para verificar si aún tienes disponibles: host:~# df -i De resto, como ya te recomendaron algún otro listero, trata de aplicar cuotas de disco a tus usuarios, para garantizar un mejor control de los recursos de disco. Saludos, -- German Cardozo Chirinos -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktinpsjm2neb4ounxzvj3f_fldxxrxsikp_bqk...@mail.gmail.com
Re: en otra de ataque a mi servidor de correo
Hola, Otra cosa que puedes hacer es : 1- Si tienes control sobre el router, limitar las conexiones simultaneas de las IPs, ello, dado que las empresas responsables no envían emails de forma continua, sino, que sus programas de correos (servidores) los envian entre 3/5 minutos de intervalos y cuando hay varios emails cuyo remitentes sean del mismo dominio, pues, usan la misma conexion y así se evitan el problema de ser baneados por el firewall. 2- Puedes también SPF sobre el Remitente, asegurándote que la dirección de origen sea válida en un dominio. 3- Puedes implementar el bloqueo de IP desde la aplicación de correo basado en DNSBL, ej: http://www.spamhaus.org/ 4- Si tienes usuarios que revisan su email, no trates de abrir el puerto 25, sino, utiliza el smtp-ssl, pop3-ssl ó imap-ssl, de esa forma si solamente tienes un solo servidor puedes aplicar desde el firewall diferentes políticas para los diferentes servicios. Saludos. --- El jue, 7/1/10, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: De: Camaleón noela...@gmail.com Asunto: Re: en otra de ataque a mi servidor de correo A: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org Fecha: jueves, 1 de julio de 2010, 01:23 am El Wed, 30 Jun 2010 15:50:24 -0600, troxlinux escribió: El día 30 de junio de 2010 15:37, Camaleón escribió: Eso no puede ser :-/ Supongo que estás con Postfix. Analiza el /var/log/mail y mira a ver qué es lo que está pasando realmente (origen y destino de esos mensajes, así como las direcciones IP) para descartar que tengas un relay abierto. Supongo que son rebotes, es decir, que alguien ha enviado correos con una dirección en el campo From: apuntando a tu dominio y un Reply-To: apuntando a un segundo dominio (o viceversa) y os estéis devolviendo mutuamente los correos. pues todos se conectar el port 25 de mi servidor y el localhost Claro, como debe ser, pero ese no es el problema... mira te muestro la cabecera de unos de mis correos atrapados por amavisd-new X-Spam-Flag: YES (...) From: Tanner Neidhardt qbxunshakea...@grupomunkel.com To: Jap345678 jap345...@aol.com El problema es qué hace tu servidor de correo atendiendo esas peticiones, es decir, ninguno de tus dominios aparece como remitente/receptor. Si es así, tienes un open relay, revisa la configuración del servidor. Ya sabes que las cabeceras se pueden falsificar. Y revisa los registros para analizar si las peticiones son válidas o se te están colando por algún lado. Esto lo podrás ver desde el registro del servidor, no en las cabeceras de los correos y tienes que analizarlo con lupa. Pero para saber cómo responder antes tienes que saber cuál es el origen del problema. y mira las conexiones a mi puerto 25 algunas en time_wait o otras activas tcp 0 0 165.98.97.38:25 84.124.180.22:2819 TIME_WAIT (...) Pero eso es normal. Tienes el puerto 25 abierto en el router y el servidor respondiendo en ese puerto. Lo que no es normal es que tu servidor de correo atienda esas peticiones. Si te molestan mucho (puede ser una ráfaga de spam pasajera), puedes usar Postfix para bloquear/rechazar las peticiones que vienen desde direcciones IP que están en las listas negras mediante smtpd_recipient_restrictions = ... reject_rhsbl_recipient o smtpd_sender_restrictions = ... reject_rhsbl_sender. Consulta el manual de Postfix para ver cómo se configuran estos valores. Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.07.01.06.23...@gmail.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/638583.11250...@web45105.mail.sp1.yahoo.com
Re: dominio en dos ips publicas
--- El jue, 7/1/10, jmramirez jmrami...@cosmantenimiento.com escribió: Tengo este escenario: Tengo 2 router's con ip's publicas. dominioA.com Router 1 dominioB.com Router 2 Me gustaria que cuando se caiga el route 1 el dominioA.com se publique por el router 2 ( supongo que en otro puerto, lo desconozco) y viceversa. Todo esto sera para el correo y para las webs. La información que he visto por la red es esta: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gateway_Load_Balancing_Protocol http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Address_Redundancy_Protocol http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Load_balancing_%28computing%29 http://www.zytrax.com/books/dns/ch9/rr.html Debes tener listo una configuración para que en tu router mantenga registros de las conexiones activas (ConnectionTrack) en caso de que se caiga el primer enlace y el router asigne a la segunda puerta de enlace, el firewall mantenga registros de toda la conexion anterior, ve este enlace (en Ingles) http://lartc.org/howto/lartc.rpdb.multiple-links.html Para el correo he visto esto: Dominio solucion.com Registros MX mail.solucion.com 10 IP del Local A. mailcorreo.solucion.com 20 IP del Local B. Entiendo que lo mismo me funcionaria para la web, pero estoy bastante perdido. Alguien hizo algo parecido, podéis pasarme algún buen link, a ser posible en castellano. Para el caso de los emails puedes usar: MX 10 mail.midominio.com. (Conexion mas rapida) MX 20 mail2.midominio.com. mail.midominio.com. IN A IP1 mail2.midominio.com. IN A IP2 En el servidor web solamente haces esto: www.midominio.com. 10 IN A IP1 (para la conexion mas rápida) 10 IN A IP2 de esa forma cuando hagas un nslookup en Win2 o dig en Linux te apareceran las IPs en la secuencia que la configurastes en el servidor DNS. El detalle estará en que hay navegadores con problemas que solamente utilizan la primera IP y no la segunda, ej (IEXplorer :( ) Saludos. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/962173.37339...@web45102.mail.sp1.yahoo.com
Re: martian sources iptables
Hola, Esto sucede cuando tu router no puede enrutar los paquetes de origen --- destino, aun que todo este bien, un posible problema puede estar si está un router antes que el tuyo o si este router tiene la misma ip de uno de tus gateway eso causa un loop en tu router y te termina dando ese error o puedes leer también otras causas aca http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martian_packet Saludos. --- El jue, 7/1/10, cosme co...@gecgr.co.cu escribió: De: cosme co...@gecgr.co.cu Asunto: martian sources iptables A: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org Fecha: jueves, 1 de julio de 2010, 07:32 pm Hola He puesto un iptables en Debian lenny y cuando lo reinicio me aparece un sin número de mensajes con martian sources. Qué significan Jul 1 19:00:47 ns1 kernel: [ 5631.909505] martian source 192.168.13.83 from 192.168.13.14, on dev eth0 Jul 1 19:00:47 ns1 kernel: [ 5631.909505] ll header: ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:00:30:4f:14:84:d7:08:06 Jul 1 19:00:56 ns1 kernel: [ 5640.928119] martian source 192.168.13.83 from 192.168.13.14, on dev eth0 Jul 1 19:00:56 ns1 kernel: [ 5640.928119] ll header: ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:00:30:4f:14:84:d7:08:06 Jul 1 19:01:08 ns1 kernel: [ 5652.534306] martian source 192.168.13.255 from 192.168.13.14, on dev eth0 Jul 1 19:01:08 ns1 kernel: [ 5652.534306] ll header: ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:00:30:4f:14:84:d7:08:00 Jul 1 19:01:10 ns1 kernel: [ 5654.445168] martian source 192.168.13.83 from 192.168.13.14, on dev eth0 Jul 1 19:01:10 ns1 kernel: [ 5654.445168] ll header: ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:00:30:4f:14:84:d7:08:06 Jul 1 19:01:13 ns1 kernel: [ 5657.534790] martian source 192.168.13.83 from 192.168.13.14, on dev eth0 Jul 1 19:01:13 ns1 kernel: [ 5657.534790] ll header: ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:00:30:4f:14:84:d7:08:06 Jul 1 19:01:18 ns1 kernel: [ 5662.542337] martian source 192.168.13.255 from 192.168.13.14, on dev eth0 Jul 1 19:01:18 ns1 kernel: [ 5662.542337] ll header: ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:00:30:4f:14:84:d7:08:00 Jul 1 19:01:19 ns1 kernel: [ 5663.675305] martian source 192.168.13.83 from 192.168.13.14, on dev eth0 Jul 1 19:01:19 ns1 kernel: [ 5663.675305] ll header: ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:00:30:4f:14:84:d7:08:06 Jul 1 19:01:31 ns1 kernel: [ 5675.743210] martian source 192.168.13.83 from 192.168.13.14, on dev eth0 Jul 1 19:01:31 ns1 kernel: [ 5675.743210] ll header: ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:00:30:4f:14:84:d7:08:06 Jul 1 19:01:34 ns1 kernel: [ 5678.753428] martian source 192.168.13.83 from 192.168.13.14, on dev eth0 Jul 1 19:01:34 ns1 kernel: [ 5678.753428] ll header: ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:00:30:4f:14:84:d7:08:06 Jul 1 19:01:35 ns1 kernel: [ 5679.422814] martian source 192.168.99.255 from 192.168.99.2, on dev eth1 Jul 1 19:01:35 ns1 kernel: [ 5679.422814] ll header: ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:00:0c:29:0e:5f:cc:08:00
Re: Controles de Acceso y Sistemas de Seguridad - Biometricos
Oye, Eso que anuncias es GRATIS, por que este foro es solamente para compartir ideas y dar todo gratis (CONOCIMIENTOS Y EXPERIENCIAS), que sea Opensource también, lógico, basado en Linux mayormente. ¡¡¡ADMIN, DEBERIAN BLOQUEAR ESTAS CHARADAS! --- El dom, 7/4/10, Only Control S.A. market...@onlycontrol.com escribió: De: Only Control S.A. market...@onlycontrol.com Asunto: Controles de Acceso y Sistemas de Seguridad - Biometricos A: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org Fecha: domingo, 4 de julio de 2010, 12:04 pm Estimados: Nos es grato dirigirnos a ustedes y presentarles nuestras soluciones de Software y Hardware que han sido desarrolladas cumpliendo estándares internacionales (AFIS, BASC, NIST, entre otras) y se encuentran implementados en más de 300 Empresas de primer orden en el Ecuador. Sistemas de Seguridad y Acceso. a. Access Control (Software para Registro, Control y Administración de Controles de Acceso) b. Access Monitor (Software Monitor Transaccional, Integra Dispositivos Biométricos TCP/IP, con las siguientes Base de Datos (SQL Server, Oracle, Sysbase) c. Time Control (Software para Control de Presencias, Tiempos, Permisos, Vacaciones ETC). d. Bitácora Digital (Software de Bitácora Digital, Control de Visitas, Verificación de Visitantes con Huellas Digitales, Reconocimiento Facial de Visitantes, Validación con Bases de Datos de Criminales, Estadísticas). e. Coffe Control (Sistema para Automatización de Cafeterías, Verificación de Identidad, Impresión de Tikets, Costos, Pago a proveedor). f. Permisos Provisionales (Sistemas para Generación de Permisos Provisionales, Vehiculares y Personales, se integra con dispositivos Móviles PDA, Celulares). Nuestras soluciones de software y Hardware se han integrado de manera transparente a las plataformas transaccionales de nuestros Clientes, proporcionando automatización en procesos de identificación Segura de Usuarios, Clientes, Visitantes y Vehículos. Por lo antes expuesto, nos gustaría poder visitarles y realizar una presentación ejecutiva de las soluciones mencionadas, lo cual nos permitirá explicarlas más ampliamente y responder cualquier inquietud al respecto. Saludos cordiales, Jorge Ortiz Merchán Marketing Only Control S.A Representantes Exclusivos Virdi en el Ecuador Urdesa Central Av. Víctor Emilio Estrada y Bálsamos 200 2do Piso Oficina 5 Teléfonos: +593 4 6022472 / +593 4 2808153 Celular : +593 9 4633-234 - 098263-562 Mail.- jor...@onlycontrol.com Sabías que… Para producir una hoja de papel se necesita más de 10 litros de nuestra valiosa agua potable. Por favor no imprimas este correo electrónico al menos que sea verdaderamente necesario. AVISO DE CONFIDENCIALIDAD: El presente mensaje y los archivos que lleven adjuntos, va dirigido de manera exclusiva a su destinatario y puede contener información confidencial. La opinión y/o punto de vista expresado en el contenido es exclusiva de su autor y no representa necesariamente la opinión de ONLY CONTROL S.A en ECUADOR. Si usted no es el destinatario de este mensaje (o la persona responsable de su entrega), considérese advertido de que lo ha recibido por error, así como de la prohibición legal de realizar cualquier tipo de uso, difusión, reenvío, impresión o copia del mismo. Si ha recibido este mensaje por error, por favor notifíquelo al remitente y proceda a destruirlo inmediatamente. This message and the attached documents may contain privileged/confidential information and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent the opinion of ONLY CONTROL S.A - ECUADOR . If you are not the intended recipient (or responsible for delivery of the message to such a person) be advised that you have received this message in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error please notify it to the sender and destroy it immediately.
Mike Genkin invites you to use Boxbe
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Re: Αναφορά σφα λμάτων.
Σύντομη απάντηση: file all bugs in the Debian bts. On Tue, Jul 06, 2010 at 03:37:55PM +, Πρεκατές Αλέξανδρος wrote [edited]: Υποθέτω δεν έχει καμιά υποχρέωση ο δημιουργός να κοιτάζει bugs από τις διανομές. Όντως δεν έχει. Αρα κατα πόσο είναι έυλογο να προτρέπεται ένας χρήστης του debian να στέλνει το σφάλμα και upstream; Το να στείλει κανείς το σφάλμα κ στο Debian κ upstream είναι waste of community resources. Αν είναι feature request (wishlist), μπορείς να το στείλεις κατ'ευθείαν upstream. Οτιδήποτε άλλο μπορεί να είναι είτε bug του upstream ή λόγω Debian-specific αλλαγών (packaging/patches/etc). Αν δεν ξέρεις ποιο από τα δύο, υπέβαλε το bug στο debian. Για περισσότερα: /usr/share/doc/debian/bug-reporting.txt -S -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-greek-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100706175045.ga7...@mobee
Mike Genkin invites you to use Boxbe
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servidor de email
para montar um servidor de email preciso ter um dominio na maquina registrado, correto? -- linux user nº 432194 Eu sou livre e você?
Re: servidor de email
Não exatamente. Mas se não quer ser tachado como spammer e cair em blacklists na internet e ser bloqueado por vários domínios, te aconselho a usar um domínio válido. Att., Márcio Pedroso wrote: para montar um servidor de email preciso ter um dominio na maquina registrado, correto? -- linux user nº 432194 Eu sou livre e você? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c335206.5080...@gmail.com
Re: servidor de email
Concordo com o Molinero. Se vc for montar um servidor para testar e talz, definitivamente não é necessário um domínio. On 07/06/2010 12:55 PM, Molinero wrote: Não exatamente. Mas se não quer ser tachado como spammer e cair em blacklists na internet e ser bloqueado por vários domínios, te aconselho a usar um domínio válido. Att., Márcio Pedroso wrote: para montar um servidor de email preciso ter um dominio na maquina registrado, correto? -- linux user nº 432194 Eu sou livre e você? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c335c09.8060...@veltrac.com.br
Re: servidor de email
Em 6 de julho de 2010 12:07, Márcio Pedroso sarrafocapoe...@gmail.com escreveu: para montar um servidor de email preciso ter um dominio na maquina registrado, correto? Não. Você não precisa ter um domínio registrado. O problema é que a prática de SPAM ao longo dos anos levou a adoção de soluções que privilegiam os domínios registrados, e um dos critérios de checagem é justamente este, de formas que se você enviar um e-mail diretamente de seu servidor sem registro você pode ser lançado em blacklists que alimentam bancos de dados utilizados por filtros antispam, e aí você não conseguira mais enviar mensagens. Você pode contratar um servidor smarthost para que você mande e-mails de seu servidor para este smarthost, e dele sair para os destinatários. Você tem opções gratuitas, como o Gmail, ou pagas, em qualquer provedor de esquina. Para configurar o Gmail, existem trocentos tutoriais na rede. Porém, se você quiser entrar nesse mercado como profissional, a melhor pedida é registrar um domínio. -- @chinabhz -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktiku1zbzlffxunainq79mu9thfakp7v_ejrbs...@mail.gmail.com
SAMBA: Mais de um script logon
Pessoal, Tenho aqui um server SAMBA em que o script logon está amarrado pelo GRUPO padrão do usuário, no entanto surgiu a necessidade de ALÉM de carregar o script logon do grupo do usuário, que carregasse também um OUTRO script logon personalizado (amarrado pelo login do usuário), alguem sabe se isso é possível no SAMBA? ou tem alguma idéia de resolver isso? (Já vi em alguns tutoriais explicando OU pelo Usuário ou pelo GRUPO, mas nada dos dois juntos). Abraços, André Menezes
Re: SAMBA: Mais de um script logon
Acho que esta procurando por isso: http://www.stress-free.co.nz/customised_netlogon_scripts_for_samba Em 6 de julho de 2010 15:16, André andre...@gmail.com escreveu: Pessoal, Tenho aqui um server SAMBA em que o script logon está amarrado pelo GRUPO padrão do usuário, no entanto surgiu a necessidade de ALÉM de carregar o script logon do grupo do usuário, que carregasse também um OUTRO script logon personalizado (amarrado pelo login do usuário), alguem sabe se isso é possível no SAMBA? ou tem alguma idéia de resolver isso? (Já vi em alguns tutoriais explicando OU pelo Usuário ou pelo GRUPO, mas nada dos dois juntos). Abraços, André Menezes -- http://blog.tadeucruz.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktil8tmef3p7uqcb7sbg1hy9ixzf8negvt18ic...@mail.gmail.com
Problemas com o xorg.conf
Caros Debianos, Estou com um problema em meu notebook. Eu compilei o modulo da minha placa de vídeo G210m para a versão do kernel que estou usando, ate ai tudo tranquilo. Ao executar o nvidia-xconfig ele cria o arquivo com a configuração padrão, mas fica funcionando somente a saída vga do notebook com o modulo rodando tranquilo. Mas na tela do notebook não aparece nada. Vi que se eu gerasse um EDID do display e utilizasse ele no xorg tudo funcionaria, pois bem, realmente o LCD funciona beleza, so que agora o que nao funciona e a saida VGA. Como utilizo muito a saída VGA estou tentando deixar os dois funcionando. Ele não reconhece os dois monitores, ou é um ou o outro. Vou colocar as duas configurações da sessão screen do xorg, gostaria da ajuda de vocês para conseguir resolver este probleminha.* Xorg funcionando somente o LCD do notebook* Section Screen Identifier Default Screen Device Configured Video Device MonitorConfigured Monitor Option ConnectedMonitor DFP-0 Option CustomEDID DFP-0:/etc/X11/cw13fb.bin SubSection Display Modes nvidia-auto-select EndSubSection EndSection *Xorg funcionando somente a saída VGA * Section Screen Identifier Screen0 Device Device0 MonitorMonitor0 DefaultDepth24 SubSection Display Depth 24 EndSubSection EndSection --
Re: Problemas com o xorg.conf
Thiago, segue abaixo a configuração que deves colocar no /etc/X11/xorg.conf: # nvidia-xconfig: X configuration file generated by nvidia-xconfig # nvidia-xconfig: version 1.0 (bui...@ninsei) Fri Sep 5 22:23:08 UTC 2008 Section ServerLayout Identifier Layout0 Screen 0 Screen0 InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard InputDeviceMouse0 CorePointer EndSection Section Files RgbPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb EndSection Section Module Load dbe Load extmod Load type1 Load freetype Load glx EndSection Section InputDevice # generated from default Identifier Mouse0 Driver mouse Option Protocol auto Option Device /dev/psaux Option Emulate3Buttons true Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 EndSection Section InputDevice # generated from default Identifier Keyboard0 Driver kbd Option XkbRulesxorg Option XkbModelabnt2 Option XkbLayoutbr Option XkbVariantabnt2 EndSection Section Monitor Identifier Monitor0 VendorName Unknown ModelName Unknown HorizSync 30.0 - 110.0 VertRefresh 50.0 - 150.0 Option DPMS EndSection Section Device Identifier Device0 Driver nvidia VendorName NVIDIA Corporation EndSection Section Screen Identifier Screen0 Device Device0 MonitorMonitor0 DefaultDepth24 SubSection Display Depth 24 EndSubSection EndSection 3 Em 7 de julho de 2010 00:04, Thiago Finardi tfina...@gmail.com escreveu: Caros Debianos, Estou com um problema em meu notebook. Eu compilei o modulo da minha placa de vídeo G210m para a versão do kernel que estou usando, ate ai tudo tranquilo. Ao executar o nvidia-xconfig ele cria o arquivo com a configuração padrão, mas fica funcionando somente a saída vga do notebook com o modulo rodando tranquilo. Mas na tela do notebook não aparece nada. Vi que se eu gerasse um EDID do display e utilizasse ele no xorg tudo funcionaria, pois bem, realmente o LCD funciona beleza, so que agora o que nao funciona e a saida VGA. Como utilizo muito a saída VGA estou tentando deixar os dois funcionando. Ele não reconhece os dois monitores, ou é um ou o outro. Vou colocar as duas configurações da sessão screen do xorg, gostaria da ajuda de vocês para conseguir resolver este probleminha.* Xorg funcionando somente o LCD do notebook* Section Screen Identifier Default Screen Device Configured Video Device MonitorConfigured Monitor Option ConnectedMonitor DFP-0 Option CustomEDID DFP-0:/etc/X11/cw13fb.bin SubSection Display Modes nvidia-auto-select EndSubSection EndSection *Xorg funcionando somente a saída VGA * Section Screen Identifier Screen0 Device Device0 MonitorMonitor0 DefaultDepth24 SubSection Display Depth 24 EndSubSection EndSection --
Dovecot Maildir
Olá lista, Tive um problema aqui para configurar o dovecot com mysql mais consegui resolver. Agora quando logo so vejo minha pasta caixa de entrada, não vejo mais as subpastas do Maildir, Spam, Sent, Trash ... É alguma configuração do dovecot, alguem pode dar uma ajuda ai ? Obrigado. ## # Gustavo V. Goulart # # Rio de Janeiro - RJ# # Linux Debian Etch # ## -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/792440.81638...@web37001.mail.mud.yahoo.com
Re: How do I back up a running system?
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 2:43 PM, Robert S robert.spam.me.sensel...@gmail.com wrote: I have debian running on a headless system. I'd like to back the entire system up. Its difficult with a bootable disk without a monitor (so Clonezilla etc are out). I've tried mondoarchive but it usually bails out before it completes the backup. Are there any suggestions? A simple script would be nice. What do you want to backup? How much time do you have to restore the backup? Is it a server that needs to be up and running within minutes? Or do you have a few hours to restore the server? I usually use a combination of rsnapshot, mysqldump and an offsite backup program such as CrashPlan. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktikobp1_73vzigudw2xttp4ir8ugaonxhnfnh...@mail.gmail.com
Re: advice on amd64
On 7/5/2010 5:40 PM, Jim McCloskey wrote: I recently acquired a new Dell Studio 15 laptop and mean to install Debian (squeeze) on it. The machine has a 1.6GHz Intel Quad Core processor and 6GB of RAM. The GPU is an ATI Mobility Radeon (HD 5470) with 1GB of onboard memory. Do you not mean a 2.6 GHz CPU (rather than 1.6)? I would go with amd64. 32-bit Flash also runs on amd64, and flashplayer-mozilla from Debian-multimedia (rather than flashplugin-nonfree) installs everything you need. And though it seems to imply that it exists for iceweasel/firefox (or possibly epiphany) it works well with Chrome, too. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c32c80f.9000...@allums.com
Re: advice on amd64
On 05/07/10 23:40, Jim McCloskey wrote: I recently acquired a new Dell Studio 15 laptop and mean to install Debian (squeeze) on it. I'm trying to decide whether to do a 64-bit install (amd64) or a 32-bit install (i386). My understanding is that the amd64 port is now very complete, and that the principal difficulty would probably be with flashplayer (since Adobe withdrew the 64-bit version of flashplayer 10 for linux). There seem to be various workarounds for this issue, but I was wondering if the performance gain that one might expect from the 64-bit architecture over the 32-bit architecture would be worth the extra trouble entailed by these workarounds. The machine has a 1.6GHz Intel Quad Core processor and 6GB of RAM. The GPU is an ATI Mobility Radeon (HD 5470) with 1GB of onboard memory. I have a (now) ageing Intel Core2 Duo machine as my Desktop which I originally installed the 64 bit version of Debian. I found these little work arounds annoying and just occasionally they didn't work. I had the opportunity after a disk upgrade to do a complete re-install and I chose to switch back to the 32 bit version. I haven't noticed any performance degradation and I just don't get any hassel from issues with flash etc. I only (sic) have 2GB memory - but again to be honest, I run mysql, postgres and a web server in the background (as well as the standard daemons such sshd and inetd) and I rarely even get to swap. I get the impression (but I haven't done any careful analysis) that the 32 bit stuff uses slightly less memory resources. My main (non surfing the net) activity is web development although I have done a bit of video editing The only downside I have had is that I recently was trying to install a 64 bit version of Debian on a server I have and accidently installed the 32 bit version from the install SD card I had made and had forgotten to label as 32 bit. -- Alan Chandler http://www.chandlerfamily.org.uk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c32cc68.7030...@chandlerfamily.org.uk
Re: advice on amd64
Mark put forth on 7/5/2010 11:51 PM: I admire the OP's class in his response. Thought that comment about youtube and pr0n was completely unnecessary and unsolicited when I read it. Dry humor doesn't include emoticons. -- Stan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c32cfc7.4060...@hardwarefreak.com
Re: strange freezes or lock ups on memory intensive tasks
H.S. put forth on 7/6/2010 12:42 AM: This is on an AMD 64 bit processor (AMD Phenom(tm) II X2 555 Processor) with Debian Unstable (32 bit kernel) installed. I have noticed that when I am running a RAM intensive task, usually when browsing large photo files in geeqie and sometimes when starting firefox or chromium, the PC hangs or locks up or freezes. The only solution is to reboot the computer. What motherboard? Integrated video/GPU or add in card? Have you tried a different power supply yet? -- Stan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c32d179.4000...@hardwarefreak.com
Re: Debian/kernel's policy for fatal errors, etc.
On 05/07/10 22:22, Merciadri Luca wrote: Hi, When a computer stays turned on for a long amount of time, some problems could arise. I have the following questions: 1. What habitually makes a computer 'running Linux) go down (except electric problems)? 2. What are Debian/kernel's adaptations to prevent such problems from arising? Thanks. I have had a Debian based server at home running 24/7 for about 7 or 8 years. Living near London, we seem to have a reasonably stable electricity supply (I don't do anything special) and I have had uptimes of nearly a year, with the only downtime in the year being when my wife made me turn it off as we went on holiday. Of course upgrades to the kernel have required bringing it down, and more recently I have had several updgrades of hardware to increase disk space and increase performance with a faster processes so I could build in mythtv. From November 2009 to 10 days ago I went through a phase of using a Sheeva plug computer as the server (in order to use less electricity), but I am sad to say its (hardware) reliability wasn't good and I have now abandoned that. Putting the old server back it has now been running 24/7 for the last 10 days. It runs exim and apache and mythtv as the three key applications supported by both mysql and postgres, but it is also a git server, dns server (along with dhcp and tftp - using dnsmasq), time server, firewall/router/internet gateway and automatically supports most of the backups via cron (when it is master of the process) or via rsyncd (when it is the slave). I have never seen a memory leak or anything else that has required attention. -- Alan Chandler http://www.chandlerfamily.org.uk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c32d150.70...@chandlerfamily.org.uk
Re: Virus or what?
On Mon, 5 Jul 2010 23:19:57 + lejkt lejkt jtam...@hotmail.com wrote: now with more than 20 GB on the partition mounted on / I made the same installation, but after 2 days of use, i expected the same problem, partition mounted on / become full and /etc/init.d/mysql: ERROR: The partition with /var/lib/mysql is too full! failed! What says $ du -sh /var/log please help me solve this problem. It seems like a problem for debian-u...@lists.debian.org. Dirk. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100706090712.9ade4f0b.neu...@yahoo.de
Restarting network
Apparently '/etc/init.d/networking restart' is depricated. It is not doing the job any more on squeeze. '/etc/init.d/ifplugd restart' ignores virtual interfaces defined in /etc/network/interfaces. So how do I get my virtual interfaces active after a reboot or restart of the network without having to do 'ifup eth0:0' by hand? Regards Johann -- Johann Spies Telefoon: 021-808 4599 Informasietegnologie, Universiteit van Stellenbosch Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you. Matthew 7:7 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100706071535.gb29...@sun.ac.za
Re: audio CDs and cdrdao vs. cdparanoia
On 7/5/2010 3:43 PM, Urs Thuermann wrote: Now my question is where these [CD-rip] differences come from and which results are the correct (better) ones. Audio CDs live in a world where there is no guarantee that any two passes across a sector will ever give the same result. For one thing, there is no error correction. Give up the idea of getting a correct, or perfect, rip; it's theoretically impossible. In fact, that's why cdparanoia exists. In the days of CD-ROM drives, the drives were not very good at ripping audio discs, and cdparanoia compensated for the problems. It was also unbelievably slow. Today, DVD drives have a much better disc transport, etc., and a lot of software is smarter than it used to be, so ripping is only a real problem with copy-protected CDs, and very damaged discs. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c32dae1.70...@allums.com
Re: Restarting network
On Tue, Jul 06, 2010 at 09:15:35AM +0200, Johann Spies wrote: Apparently '/etc/init.d/networking restart' is depricated. It is not doing the job any more on squeeze. '/etc/init.d/ifplugd restart' ignores virtual interfaces defined in /etc/network/interfaces. So how do I get my virtual interfaces active after a reboot or restart of the network without having to do 'ifup eth0:0' by hand? Why not use 'auto interface' before each interface definition? -- A search of his car uncovered pornography, a homemade sex aid, women's stockings and a Jack Russell terrier. - http://www.news.com.au/story/0%2C27574%2C24675808-421%2C00.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100706074318.gt2...@zip.com.au
Re: audio CDs and cdrdao vs. cdparanoia
On 7/5/2010 3:43 PM, Urs Thuermann wrote: Now my question is where these [CD-rip] differences come from and which results are the correct (better) ones. Here is a nice web site about CDs. It is about CD-Rs, but it has a lot of general info that anyone can benefit from, including about audio CDs. It is a good starting point. http://www.cdrfaq.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c32dea6.5020...@allums.com
Re: audio CDs and cdrdao vs. cdparanoia
On 7/5/2010 3:43 PM, Urs Thuermann wrote: Now my question is where these [CD-rip] differences come from and which results are the correct (better) ones. Audio CDs live in a world where there is no guarantee that any two passes across a sector will ever give the same result. For one thing, there is no error correction. Give up the idea of getting a correct, or perfect, rip; it's theoretically impossible. Oh, I forgot. One more thing (and sorry to keep flooding the list replying to myself): There is an analog output and a digital output, and they are not equal. Your CD-drive or DVD-drive will treat them differently, and that conceivably may make a difference for you. I'm sorry, I cannot offer advice about what, if anything, to do with the analog output, but since you are probably only interested in the digital output, anyway, it's just as well. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c32e05b.5080...@allums.com
Re: Restarting network
On Tue, Jul 06, 2010 at 05:43:18PM +1000, CaT wrote: On Tue, Jul 06, 2010 at 09:15:35AM +0200, Johann Spies wrote: Apparently '/etc/init.d/networking restart' is depricated. It is not doing the job any more on squeeze. '/etc/init.d/ifplugd restart' ignores virtual interfaces defined in /etc/network/interfaces. So how do I get my virtual interfaces active after a reboot or restart of the network without having to do 'ifup eth0:0' by hand? Why not use 'auto interface' before each interface definition? I removed it because of this documentation from the Debian Reference Manual: = Here is how to use the ifplugd package for the internal Ethernet port, e.g. eth0. 1. Remove stanza in /etc/network/interfaces: auto eth0 or allow-hotplug eth0. 2. Keep stanza in /etc/network/interfaces: iface eth0 inet and mapping . 3. Install the ifplugd package. 4. Run sudo dpkg-reconfigure ifplugd. 5. Put eth0 as the static interfaces to be watched by ifplugd. === I did now put the 'auto eth0:0' back and did reboot the system. This time eth0:0 came up. Regards Johann -- Johann Spies Telefoon: 021-808 4599 Informasietegnologie, Universiteit van Stellenbosch Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you. Matthew 7:7 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100706081120.ga3...@sun.ac.za
Mike Genkin invites you to use Boxbe
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Re: Re: Network crashes under heavy load
On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 11:42 PM, Alexander Samad a...@samad.com.au wrote: [snip] An Intel NIC would usually be my first choice but since this board has no PCIe slots I'm hesitant to use a PCI NIC if it's going to limit network bandwidth. have you tried getting the realtek driver and compiling it, on some of my earlier boards, the nic was loaded by an in line kernel module but it didn't work properly I had to down load the realtek and compile it. I was experiencing weird issues with my NIC aswell, check if you have the r8169 kernel module loaded, if so, that might be the cause of your crashes. Get the proper drivers for your NIC on the realtek website, compile them against your kernel, run depmod, blacklist the old module, update initramfs and you shouldn't have any more trouble. -- Davide Mirtillo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktilrtcz3fut2zoq2-wqwnfkoybvfuid1uqeji...@mail.gmail.com
Re: text to html
On Sat, 2010-07-03 at 11:07 +0200, Jozsi Avadkan wrote: input: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=MqPXZwc3 output: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=8QCkp4yv Just for fun: perl -ne 'm{^(([^/]*).*/([^/]*).html)}; exit unless defined($2); if ($d ne $2){defined($d) print br\n; $d = $2; print brfont size=4$d/fontbr\n;} print qq{a href=$1$3/a | \n};' input output Some tweaks required depending on whether you do or don't want trailing |'s and/or trailing spaces, and I agree there are 2 entries in your sample output that don't match :-) Richard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1278411378.30144.7.ca...@diamond.lan.walnut.gen.nz
Re: audio CDs and cdrdao vs. cdparanoia
On Mon, Jul 05, 2010 at 10:43:44PM +0200, Urs Thuermann wrote: For each CD I run cdrdao read-cd --datafile data.cdr --device /dev/sg0 toc and cdparanoia -d /dev/sg0 -B where /dev/sg0 refers to an Plextor Ultraplex 40max SCSI CDROM drive. [...] I can run cdrdao and cdparanoia repeatedly, say 10 times, and I get deterministic results, i.e. all runs of cdrdao give the same result and all runs of cdparanoia give the same result but the results of cdrdao and cdparanoia differ. Now my question is where these differences come from and which results are the correct (better) ones. With a suitable CDROM drive such as yours and CDs in reasonably good condition, there should be no need for cdparanoia's data correction feature. In fact, I found that it can sometimes do more harm than good, so I recommend disabling it (-Z), if only for testing purposes. You could compare your results to Exact Audio Copy (Windows, free for non-commercial use), which reportedly also runs on WINE. Another option would bei morituri, a CD ripper for Linux modelled after Exact Audio Copy. Regards, Mirko -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100706110434.ga20...@titus.informatik.tu-chemnitz.de
Re: The empty primary partition, where should it be
On Tue, 2010-06-29 at 22:08 +, T o n g wrote: Hi, Do you have empty primary partitions? Have you noticed where they are? When leaving an empty primary partition, I'm thinking: /dev/hda1 Primary /dev/hda2 Primary /dev/hda3 Empty /dev/hda4 Extended /dev/hda5 Logical but what I found most existing partitions look like this: /dev/hda1 Primary /dev/hda2 Primary /dev/hda3 Extended /dev/hda4 Empty /dev/hda5 Logical I never create that many partitions these days :-) I might create one for /boot, and one for swap, but other than that everything goes in LVM on the one partition. So max 3 (unless I have more than one drive, of course). And they're all Primary. Richard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1278416568.30144.10.ca...@diamond.lan.walnut.gen.nz
Ipsec problems
Hi. I'm having some problems with ipsec. The connections are running, but when the line goes down the vpn is not coming back again. If i see the logs, i see these errors: 2010-07-06 13:23:22: ERROR: fatal INVALID-SPI notify messsage, phase1 should be deleted. If i force a restart of the setkey and racoon services, then the vpns are coming back. This is the conf: remote AAA.AAA.AAA.AAA { exchange_mode main; verify_cert on; my_identifier address; lifetime time 96 hour ; dpd_delay 0; proposal { encryption_algorithm 3des; hash_algorithm sha1; authentication_method pre_shared_key; dh_group 2; } } sainfo address 192.168.1.0/24 any address 10.75.0.0/16 any { pfs_group 2; lifetime time 8 hour ; encryption_algorithm 3des ; authentication_algorithm hmac_md5 ; compression_algorithm deflate ; } sainfo address AAA.AAA.AAA.AAA/32 any address 10.75.0.0/16 any { pfs_group 2; lifetime time 8 hour ; encryption_algorithm 3des ; authentication_algorithm hmac_md5 ; compression_algorithm deflate ; } sainfo address BBB.BBB.BBB.BBB/32 any address AAA.AAA.AAA.AAA/32 any { pfs_group 2; lifetime time 8 hour ; encryption_algorithm 3des ; authentication_algorithm hmac_md5 ; compression_algorithm deflate ; } sainfo address 192.168.1.0/24 any address AAA.AAA.AAA.AAA/32 any { pfs_group 2; lifetime time 8 hour ; encryption_algorithm 3des ; authentication_algorithm hmac_md5 ; compression_algorithm deflate ; } 10.75.0.0/16 is the remote network. 192.168.1.0/24 is our net. AAA.AAA.AAA.AAA is their remote public IP. BBB.BBB.BBB.BBB is our public IP Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/792006.31695...@web28616.mail.ukl.yahoo.com
Re: Deterring mail relay attempts
On Thu, 2010-07-01 at 21:08 +0100, Alan Chandler wrote: I would like to cause as much disruption to these guys as possible. I'd happily drop packets to save bandwidth, and load on my MTA, but I'd think twice about that reason. My understanding is that most spam comes from compromised home machines these days - so the person getting disrupted is some poor sucker whose machine is compromised, not the actual offender. Dropping packets may save _them_ bandwidth as well, so as I say, I'd happily do it :-) Richard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1278418867.30144.14.ca...@diamond.lan.walnut.gen.nz
Re: strange freezes or lock ups on memory intensive tasks
On 06/07/10 02:47 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: What motherboard? Integrated video/GPU or add in card? Have you tried a different power supply yet? Motherboard: Gigabyte MA790GPT-UD3H. Chipset: AMD 790GX/SB750 Onboard graphics: ATI Radeon HD 3300 Graphics Audio chipset: Realtek ALC889A LAN: Gigabit, Realtek 8111C Presently I am using onboard graphics, but till a few weeks ago I was using a PCIe Nvidia graphics card and the computer was still freezing the same way. -- Please reply to this list only. I read this list on its corresponding newsgroup on gmane.org. Replies sent to my email address are just filtered to a folder in my mailbox and get periodically deleted without ever having been read. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/i0va8o$6q...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Scim and iceweasel
On 05/07/10 07:51 AM, Sridhar M.A. wrote: My question, how can I make iceweasel, OO and other packages like inkscape to use scim as the default input method? This is on Debian Testing, Intel 32 bit processor. I can use scim on my KDE desktop without any problems ... almost. The only hiccup is that its applet does not start when I log in. This gives an option of switching to my last changed keyboard using CTRL+SPC only (since I cannot click on an applet to select a different layout). I have to kill its gtk instance which forces some auto restart in scim and the kde applet appears. Example, right now I have the following processes. I do not have the scim applet, but I can switch to the alternate layout using CTRL+SPC. $ ps uax | grep scim hs 2214 0.0 0.1 9964 1772 ?Ss Jul01 0:02 /usr/lib/scim-1.0/scim-launcher -d -c simple -e all -f socket --no-stay hs 2218 0.0 0.0 6208 404 ?Ss Jul01 0:00 /usr/lib/scim-1.0/scim-helper-manager hs 2219 0.0 0.4 28844 5976 ?Ssl Jul01 1:15 /usr/lib/scim-1.0/scim-panel-gtk --display :0.0 -c socket -d --no-stay hs 2221 0.0 0.0 9180 540 ?Ss Jul01 0:00 /usr/lib/scim-1.0/scim-launcher -d -c socket -e socket -f x11 hs 17527 0.0 0.0 3860 776 pts/6S+ 10:30 0:00 grep scim Terminating gtk instance prompts the scim to give me its applet in KDE's panel: $ kill -TERM 2219 Now I can select whichever layout I want from the applet. Now, all that is well and good, but I am no sure why gtk related instance starts. So I poked around /etc files and found this: $ cat /etc/scim/global /SupportedUnicodeLocales = en_US.UTF-8 /DefaultPanelProgram = scim-panel-gtk /DefaultConfigModule = simple /DefaultSocketFrontEndAddress = local:/tmp/scim-socket-frontend /DefaultSocketIMEngineAddress = local:/tmp/scim-socket-frontend /DefaultSocketConfigAddress = local:/tmp/scim-socket-frontend /DefaultPanelSocketAddress = local:/tmp/scim-panel-socket /DefaultHelperManagerSocketAddress = local:/tmp/scim-helper-manager-socket /DefaultSocketTimeout = 5000 Perhaps the default panel program is the responsible for it. I wonder how to make it so that gtk related scim starts in Gnome but kde related in KDE only. Another thing that might matter is the following file: $ cat ~/.scim/global /DefaultKeyboardLayout = kconfig /DisabledIMEngineFactories = IMEngine-M17N-am-sera, and so on: all the disabled layout in my scim applet /SupportedUnicodeLocales = en_CA.utf8,en_US.UTF-8,fr_FR.UTF-8 Regards. -- Please reply to this list only. I read this list on its corresponding newsgroup on gmane.org. Replies sent to my email address are just filtered to a folder in my mailbox and get periodically deleted without ever having been read. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/i0vf2g$q4...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Deterring mail relay attempts
Richard Hector writes: My understanding is that most spam comes from compromised home machines these days - so the person getting disrupted is some poor sucker whose machine is compromised, not the actual offender. The machine is compromised because the sucker failed to secure it. While the botnet operator is the actual criminal the owner of the compromised machine is still negligent. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/878w5opuq9@thumper.dhh.gt.org
Re: strange freezes or lock ups on memory intensive tasks
On Tue, 06 Jul 2010 09:15:03 -0400 H.S. hs.sa...@gmail.com wrote: On 06/07/10 02:47 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: What motherboard? Integrated video/GPU or add in card? Have you tried a different power supply yet? Motherboard: Gigabyte MA790GPT-UD3H. Chipset: AMD 790GX/SB750 Onboard graphics: ATI Radeon HD 3300 Graphics Audio chipset: Realtek ALC889A LAN: Gigabit, Realtek 8111C Presently I am using onboard graphics, but till a few weeks ago I was using a PCIe Nvidia graphics card and the computer was still freezing the same way. Generally hard freezes of the type you are describing is due to bad hardware. I trust ATI as much as I trust M$, but since you had the same symptoms with the Nvidia, the video card is probably not the problem. The problems I have seen with this kind of locking are: memory video cards in that order. I guess there is a remote possibility something is overheating. Can you get the temperature readouts ? If it's easy to do, try underclocking the CPU and buses. Timing on the MB could be off due to poor design, and running things slower would improve the margins. Make sure the bios settings for the memory are correct. These days it's supposed to read it from memory, but maybe it got stuck in manual mode for some reason and the timings are screwed up. Brian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100706080442.35101...@windy.deldotd.com
Re: audio CDs and cdrdao vs. cdparanoia
On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 4:04 AM, Mirko Parthey mirko.part...@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de wrote: [...] You could compare your results to Exact Audio Copy (Windows, free for non-commercial use), which reportedly also runs on WINE. +1. Also if you use EAC with AccurateRip enabled you can have quite good confidence in your results. Mark
RAID Questions
I am a RAID newb. I have a brand-new Dell Precision T1500 workstation with two 700GB SATA drives, pre-loaded with Windows 7. Of course, Win7 has already been wiped off. My goal is to have a redundant Debian (Stable) system, such that the second drive is a mirror of the first drive. I would think RAID1 would be the route to go. However, being a RAID newbie, I'm running into all sorts of problems, not least of which that I simply don't understand some of the basic concepts. I thought there was HARDWARE RAID and SOFTWARE RAID. Not knowing anything about it, I would have thought that with HARDWARE RAID, you'd go into the BIOS of the special drive-controller hardware (Ctrl-I in this case, just after the POST), and tell the hardware to mirror this drive to that drive, and that then when you go into the installation of the OS (Debian, in this case), the OS's partitioner would see one drive (the main one) and not see the other one, because the hardware RAID controller would hide it. Or if the OS partitioner saw the drive, it would see it as a clone/mirror of the first. At any rate, I thought the OS installation would be essentially uninvolved in the RAID setup. I thought that with SOFTWARE RAID, all the RAID stuff would be done in the OS, and there'd be no need for a hardware controller. But apparently this RAID hardware controller (Intel Rapid Storage Technology - Option ROM - 9.5.0.1037) is some sort of hybrid FIRMWARE RAID system. It has three RAID levels available in the controller BIOS screen - RAID0, RAID1, and RECOVERY. I've been unable to find any reference on Intel's web site (or Google generally) for an explanation of this RECOVERY level. My best guess is that it is RAID10 (RAID1+0 ?) and Intel can't be bothered to be consistent in what it calls things. If I set up the controller's BIOS screen to either RAID1 or RECOVERY, when I start the Debian installer and get to the partitioning scheme, I see a single 700GB RAID partition with a 1MB unusable partition, and then the /dev/sda and /dev/sdb drives. If I try to partition the /dev/sda drive, it warns that all the RAID information will be wiped out. If I leave that alone and try to partition the RAID partition, I have no option to create separate partitions and just have one huge partition that I can mount on / (or wherever). If I set up the controller's BIOS screen to non-RAID for the drives, and then use only the installer's partitioner to manually setup all my partitions on both drives, making them identical, and then use the RAID option in the partitioner to create a RAID partition for each actual partition and set mount points, the installer continues, but then won't install grub or lilo. (Further, I can't toggle the bootable flag on the drive's first partition; it stays OFF no matter what. This may be a bug in the installer - I found similar references via Google, but could not understand the solution (or even if there really was a solution).) But I figured I might could fix that later, and went ahead and rebooted. Of course, the system didn't boot, so I used the installer CD to boot into recovery mode, and then mounted a partition or two, and as far as I can tell, the partitions are completely blank, even after what seemed to be a successful install (minus the boot loader problem). In short, I have no idea what I'm doing, or how to do it. Should I use RAID at all, or should I use some other cloning technique, perhaps dd or rsync from a periodic cron job? (I was able to successfully install/boot a complete Stable system with RAID off in the firmware BIOS, installing onto the first drive like it was the only drive in the system.) If I use RAID, do I set the Intel Rapid Storage Technology BIOS options to RAID1, RECOVERY, or no RAID? How do I get around the problems I'm seeing in the Debian paritioner (no bootable flag, can't create multiple partitions or partitions are empty after install)? Thanks for any suggestions/hints/clues. -- Kent West*))) http://kentwest.blogspot.com Praise Yah! \o/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c3348c1.8000...@acu.edu
Re: RAID Questions
On 06/07/2010 16:16, Kent West wrote: I am a RAID newb. I have a brand-new Dell Precision T1500 workstation with two 700GB SATA drives, pre-loaded with Windows 7. Of course, Win7 has already been wiped off. My goal is to have a redundant Debian (Stable) system, such that the second drive is a mirror of the first drive. I would think RAID1 would be the route to go. However, being a RAID newbie, I'm running into all sorts of problems, not least of which that I simply don't understand some of the basic concepts. Boasting that you of course wiped W7 off to then run in to problems with RAID and then come here, is amusing. Maybe you should do some research on RAID and how to do it in Debian, there are many helpful guides on settings up systems, however these are only guides and you also need to know how to recover from disk failures, raid controller failures and other such fun things. W7 has some very easy to use software raid tools which would have at least given you a helping start, I'm not saying they are the best, but they certainly are easy to get your head around. Checkout some guides, check the archives and look up basic terminology, my fear is you will get a RAID1 set up for your data, to then spend countless hours trying to get your data back when something goes wrong, because you don't know how to do it, something which can be all too commmon -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c334d5b.2020...@ionic.co.uk
Re: printing stopped after sid update
Can't be sure, but you might want to check the permissions of /usr/lib/cups/backend If the permissions are set to accessible only by root, try (as root): chmod go+rx /usr/lib/cups/backend HTH-- -f -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/alpine.lrh.2.01.1007060814030.28...@homer01.u.washington.edu
Re: RAID Questions
On 07/06/2010 10:35 AM, Michal wrote: On 06/07/2010 16:16, Kent West wrote: I am a RAID newb. I have a brand-new Dell Precision T1500 workstation with two 700GB SATA drives, pre-loaded with Windows 7. Of course, Win7 has already been wiped off. My goal is to have a redundant Debian (Stable) system, such that the second drive is a mirror of the first drive. I would think RAID1 would be the route to go. However, being a RAID newbie, I'm running into all sorts of problems, not least of which that I simply don't understand some of the basic concepts. Boasting that you of course wiped W7 off to then run in to problems with RAID and then come here, is amusing. Maybe you should do some research on RAID and how to do it in Debian, there are many helpful guides on settings up systems, however these are only guides and you also need to know how to recover from disk failures, raid controller failures and other such fun things. W7 has some very easy to use software raid tools which would have at least given you a helping start, I'm not saying they are the best, but they certainly are easy to get your head around. Checkout some guides, check the archives and look up basic terminology, my fear is you will get a RAID1 set up for your data, to then spend countless hours trying to get your data back when something goes wrong, because you don't know how to do it, something which can be all too commmon So..., you're saying that if I want to learn to use RAID, I should use Windows? I've been doing research on RAID for the past week, and none of the documentation I've found addresses my issues. -- Kent West*))) http://kentwest.blogspot.com Praise Yah! \o/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c3351b6.4040...@acu.edu
Re: RAID Questions
Kent West wrote: I thought there was HARDWARE RAID and SOFTWARE RAID. There is. Not knowing anything about it, I would have thought that with HARDWARE RAID, you'd go into the BIOS of the special drive-controller hardware (Ctrl-I in this case, just after the Consider this problem of using hardware raid from the motherboard. It is typically a proprietary scheme and can only be replicated on another similar motherboard. If while using this scheme your motherboard dies then you may find yourself with two perfectly good disks but no way to get the data off of them other than to find another similar motherboard. In fact even in environments with lots of similar hardware I have seen problems trying to move disks using hardware raid from one system to another while preserving the raided data. I recommend that you use Linux kernel software raid instead. It is quite reliable. On the negative side if your BIOS boots only the first disk and that is the disk that dies then the machine cannot be booted unattended after a disk failure even if the second disk has a full good copy of everything. You would need to rotate the drives in that case. that then when you go into the installation of the OS (Debian, in this case), the OS's partitioner would see one drive (the main one) and not see the other one, because the hardware RAID controller After hardware raid is set up then original drive will not be seen but a single new raid raid device will be available. I thought that with SOFTWARE RAID, all the RAID stuff would be done in the OS, and there'd be no need for a hardware controller. Yes. With Linux kernel software raid all of the raid is done in software by the Linux kernel. This is completely separate from using on motherboard hardware raid. But apparently this RAID hardware controller (Intel Rapid Storage Technology - Option ROM - 9.5.0.1037) is some sort of hybrid FIRMWARE RAID system. I recommend that you ignore the hardware raid and instead use software raid. The Debian installer can set up software raid for you at system installation time. It is easy. But it is also a little confusing. If I set up the controller's BIOS screen to either RAID1 or RECOVERY, To use software raid you wouldn't set up any bios raid at all. You would leave the drives unconfigured so that each drive is available individually. when I start the Debian installer and get to the partitioning scheme, I see a single 700GB RAID partition with a 1MB unusable partition, and then the /dev/sda and /dev/sdb drives. Any partitions you are seeing here are probably left over from the previous operating system that you had installed on the disk before. You will probably need to erase the old partitions and start fresh. If I set up the controller's BIOS screen to non-RAID for the drives, and then use only the installer's partitioner to manually setup all my partitions on both drives, making them identical, and then use the RAID option in the partitioner to create a RAID partition for each actual You have things in the wrong order. First erase all partitions, then set up the partitions for the physical raid. That will create a new logical device that is the raid of the two physical devices. Then set up your operating system partitions *once* on the newly created raid device. partition and set mount points, the installer continues, but then won't install grub or lilo. I always create a separate /boot partition because I also configure LVM and grub doesn't know how to boot off of lvm. Therefore a separate /boot (on a software raid /dev/md0 logical partition) enables grub to boot. (I am talking grub from Lenny stable and before. I don't know if grub2 in Squeeze and later adds this capability.) I still thinking having a separate /dev/md0 for /boot makes a lot of sense. Don't forget that you should also put your swap on raid as well. In short, I have no idea what I'm doing, or how to do it. Take a deep breath. Sit in a calm place for a bit. Then go back to it and start again from the beginning. Configure the BIOS to not set up any raid at all. The drives are just two normal drives. Then use the debian-installer to erase all previous partitions. Start with a clean slate. Read through one of the many guides about installing Debian that will walk you through the installation process step by step. I always set up lvm and so off the top of my head I would repeat the steps for using lvm. I think lvm is the way to go but the extra layer may be too much for you here. In any case, set up the physical raid device first and then set up the system partitions afterward. Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: audio CDs and cdrdao vs. cdparanoia
First, I would like to second the suggestion of trying Exact Audio Copy (if a Windows environment is available) and comparing those results. +1 Second, I apologize for beating a dead horse, but in the event that a few people read my earlier posts, I wanted to make a correction to what I originally wrote. In particular, the statement that there is no error correction on audio CDs is wrong. The following (taken from ttp://www.cdrfaq.org/faq02.html) is rather long, but interesting: Subject: [2-15] What are jitter and jitter correction? (1998/04/06) (below) Subject: [2-17] Why don't audio CDs use error correction? (2007/08/08) (below) On 7/6/2010 2:27 AM, Mark Allums wrote: On 7/5/2010 3:43 PM, Urs Thuermann wrote: Now my question is where these [CD-rip] differences come from and which results are the correct (better) ones. Audio CDs live in a world where there is no guarantee that any two passes across a sector will ever give the same result. For one thing, there is no error correction. Give up the idea of getting a correct, or perfect, rip; it's theoretically impossible. In fact, that's why cdparanoia exists. In the days of CD-ROM drives, the drives were not very good at ripping audio discs, and cdparanoia compensated for the problems. It was also unbelievably slow. Today, DVD drives have a much better disc transport, etc., and a lot of software is smarter than it used to be, so ripping is only a real problem with copy-protected CDs, and very damaged discs. Subject: [2-15] What are jitter and jitter correction? (1998/04/06) The first thing to know is that there are two kinds of jitter that relate to audio CDs. The usual meaning of jitter refers to a time-base error when digital samples are converted back to an analog signal; see the jitter article on http://www.digido.com/ for an explanation. The other form of jitter is used in the context of digital audio extraction from CDs. This kind of jitter causes extracted audio samples to be doubled-up or skipped entirely. (Some people will correctly point out that the latter usage is an abuse of the term jitter, but we seem to be stuck with it.) Jitter correction, in both senses of the word, is the process of compensating for jitter and restoring the audio to its intended form. This section is concerned with the (incorrect use of) jitter in the context of digital audio extraction. The problem occurs because the Philips CD specification doesn't require block-accurate addressing. While the audio data is being fed into a buffer (a FIFO whose high- and low-water marks control the spindle speed), the address information for audio blocks is pulled out of the subcode channel and fed into a different part of the controller. Because the data and address information are disconnected, the CD player is unable to identify the exact start of each block. The inaccuracy is small, but if the system doing the extraction has to stop, write data to disk, and then go back to where it left off, it won't be able to seek to the exact same position. As a result, the extraction process will restart a few samples early or late, resulting in doubled or omitted samples. These glitches often sound like tiny repeating clicks during playback. On a CD-ROM, the blocks have a 12-byte sync pattern in the header, as well as a copy of the block's address. It's possible to identify the start of a block and get the block's address by watching the data FIFO alone. This is why it's so much easier to pull single blocks off of a CD-ROM. With most CD-ROM drives that support digital audio extraction, you can get jitter-free audio by using a program that extracts the entire track all at once. The problem with this method is that if the hard drive being written to can't keep up, some of the samples will be dropped. (This is similar to a CD-R buffer underrun, but since the output buffer used during DAE is much smaller than a CD-R's input buffer, the problem is magnified.) Most newer drives (as well as nearly every model Plextor ever made) are based on an architecture that enables them to accurately detect the start of a block. An approach that has produced good results is to do jitter correction in software. This involves performing overlapping reads, and then sliding the data around to find overlaps at the edges. Most DAE programs will perform jitter correction. Subject: [2-17] Why don't audio CDs use error correction? (2007/08/08) Actually, they do. It is true that audio CDs use all 2352 bytes per block for sound samples, while CD-ROMs use only 2048 bytes per block, with most of the rest going to ECC (Error Correcting Code) data. The error correction that keeps your CDs sounding the way they're supposed to, even when scratched or dirty, is applied at a lower level. So while there isn't as much protection on an audio CD as there is on a CD-ROM, there's still enough to provide perfect or near-perfect sound quality under
Re: RAID Questions
On Tue, 06 Jul 2010 10:16:17 -0500, Kent West wrote: I am a RAID newb. (...) In short, I have no idea what I'm doing, or how to do it. First, hardware raid and software raid are two different worlds (involving different management techniques and performance). There is still a third raid type (fake-raid) which I would avoid as much as possible (this involves using a firmware and dm raid setup under OS). Second, are you sure you need a raid setup? :-) If so, and being newbie, I would go for a hardware raid controller (easy to setup). If not possible, then I should try software raid (linux md) but this requires a bit more time to get used to. I would test first on a test environment because while playing with hard disks you can easily lose your data. Should I use RAID at all, or should I use some other cloning technique, perhaps dd or rsync from a periodic cron job? (I was able to successfully install/boot a complete Stable system with RAID off in the firmware BIOS, installing onto the first drive like it was the only drive in the system.) You should use (regarding raided or not) a good backup strategy :-) If I use RAID, do I set the Intel Rapid Storage Technology BIOS options to RAID1, RECOVERY, or no RAID? I would not go that way (Intel raid tends to be fake-raid) :-/ How do I get around the problems I'm seeing in the Debian paritioner (no bootable flag, can't create multiple partitions or partitions are empty after install)? If you want to use pure software raid (linux raid), there is no need to setup nothing in the BIOS. Just tell the partitioner you ant to setup a raid1 level between the 2 disks. Debian Installation Guide will tell you about this: 6.3.2.3. Configuring Multidisk Devices (Software RAID) http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch06s03.html.en#di-partition Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.07.06.16.13...@gmail.com
Re: RAID Questions
So..., you're saying that if I want to learn to use RAID, I should use Windows? I've been doing research on RAID for the past week, and none of the documentation I've found addresses my issues. No no, not at all. Have you tried running through a guide? A quick search will give you something like this http://www.howtoforge.com/software-raid1-grub-boot-debian-etch Running through guides is a good start to give you a feel of what's going on and how to do it, from there you can explore other ideas, ones that maybe better suited to you and your setup. Also you can see how you can recover. It's always best to test you actually know how to recoverer from raid failures rather then just think you know to find out that you where incorrect. finding out what hardware and software raid is only needs a wikipedia search for example, and as to use soft or hardware raid, have a search at the archives or just debates on the internet. Just remember that if you use hardware raid and your controller fails you will need to replace that. Can you use any controller or does it have to the exact same one? If it needs to be the exact same one and it's built in to the motherboard, what do you do? These are the questions you need answers to. Setting up software raid in Linux is very easy and you can do it at install. Tools like mdstat and mdadm etc will help you out -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c335827.60...@ionic.co.uk
Re: RAID Questions
On 07/06/2010 10:57 AM, Bob Proulx wrote: Kent West wrote: I thought there was HARDWARE RAID and SOFTWARE RAID. There is. Not knowing anything about it, I would have thought that with HARDWARE RAID, you'd go into the BIOS of the special drive-controller hardware (Ctrl-I in this case, just after the Consider this problem of using hardware raid from the motherboard. It is typically a proprietary scheme and can only be replicated on another similar motherboard. If while using this scheme your motherboard dies then you may find yourself with two perfectly good disks but no way to get the data off of them other than to find another similar motherboard. That's a very good point. Thanks for making it. I recommend that you use Linux kernel software raid instead. I recommend that you ignore the hardware raid and instead use software raid. To use software raid you wouldn't set up any bios raid at all. You would leave the drives unconfigured so that each drive is available individually. Okay, thanks! That gets me farther along. You have things in the wrong order. First erase all partitions, then set up the partitions for the physical raid. That will create a new logical device that is the raid of the two physical devices. Then set up your operating system partitions *once* on the newly created raid device. partition and set mount points, the installer continues, but then won't install grub or lilo. I always create a separate /boot partition because I also configure LVM and grub doesn't know how to boot off of lvm. Therefore a separate /boot (on a software raid /dev/md0 logical partition) enables grub to boot. (I am talking grub from Lenny stable and before. I don't know if grub2 in Squeeze and later adds this capability.) I still thinking having a separate /dev/md0 for /boot makes a lot of sense. Don't forget that you should also put your swap on raid as well. Thanks for the help! Just knowing what to do with the Intel RAID BIOS stuff gets me past a big hurdle. -- Kent West*))) http://kentwest.blogspot.com Praise Yah! \o/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c335851.3050...@acu.edu
Re: Scim and iceweasel
On Tuesday 06 July 2010 15:37:04 H.S. wrote: The only hiccup is that its applet does not start when I log in. This gives an option of switching to my last changed keyboard using CTRL+SPC only I have it working, so far as I can see, perfectly on Lenny, applet and all, Oowriter and all. Tho' I prefer ctrl+space as an access method. But I have it working in Japanese. I could dig out my notes if that would be any help. (I set it up a while ago.) Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201007061723.10730.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: RAID Questions
On 07/06/2010 11:13 AM, Camaleón wrote: On Tue, 06 Jul 2010 10:16:17 -0500, Kent West wrote: I am a RAID newb. (...) In short, I have no idea what I'm doing, or how to do it. Second, are you sure you need a raid setup? :-) Nope; that's why I asked if I should go RAID or some other cloning technique. You should use (regarding raided or not) a good backup strategy :-) Yep; I've got an external Buffalo backup appliance that I will also be using. If I use RAID, do I set the Intel Rapid Storage Technology BIOS options to RAID1, RECOVERY, or no RAID? I would not go that way (Intel raid tends to be fake-raid) :-/ If you want to use pure software raid (linux raid), there is no need to setup nothing in the BIOS. Just tell the partitioner you ant to setup a raid1 level between the 2 disks. Ah. That's the piece of information I needed to get around my first hurdle. Thanks! -- Kent West*))) http://kentwest.blogspot.com Praise Yah! \o/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c335973.4090...@acu.edu
how to automaticaly turn off touchpad using xinput
Hi. I've been running X without xorg for a year now to my complete satisfaction. The only problem I have is a touchpad which I don't use and it only gets in the way. I'm turning it off with xinput because the sl410 lenovo I have doesn't allow to turn it off in bios as the ibm thinkpads I've owned previously allowed. The problem is that sometimes the xinput id of the touchpad differs and having it in .xinputrc sometimes turned off the track point and sometimes even the keyboard which really hinders its usability. Is there some automatic way to do this in a secure fasion like using the name returned by input layer and used by xinput? Also after resume/suspend the touchpad is enabled again and I have to manualy turn it off. thanks for any pointers mk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100706165022.GA510@/bin/hostname
Re: Logitech MX 5500 Keyboard + mouse problem since recent squeeze upgrade
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mark Fletcher escribió: I am running amd64 squeeze on an Intel Core i7 920-based machine with 8GB RAM. I built the machine about a year ago and have been running squeeze on it since. I use a Logitech (Logicool) MX5500 wireless keyboard and mouse combo. For about the last month or so I hadn't updated packages -- not for any particular reason, just hadn't gotten around to it. The other day I did -- and now my keyboard is not working. The keyboard and mouse work fine in Windows (on another machine). The keyboard also is working as the machine is switched on as I can use it to select boot kernel in GRUB. It's once Debian starts booting that it breaks. This is exactly the same symptom I observed a few months ago when the upgrade from udev 151-1 to 151-3 or something introduced a mod to /lib/udev/rules.d/70-hid2hci.rules which was supposed to fix a udev bug but broke a lot of people's keyboards in the process. I successfully applied the manual fix for that at the time and have since allowed udev to upgrade naturally with no subsequent problems. So naturally, the first place I looked was udev. I note udev is now at version 157, so I wondered if it was broken again. There don't seem to be any bugs to this effect logged, so I thought I'd give udev from sid a go since it doesn't seem to introduce any dependency problems. Installing sid's udev (v158) did not fix it. I have googled around for this and don't see anything newer than the last flurry on this subject a few months ago as referenced above. It's almost like no one else is having this problem... :-( I noticed that the kernel has also been upgraded to 2.6.32-5-amd64, so I rebooted and selected the old kernel (2.6.32-3-amd64) and that did not help either. Is anyone else experiencing similar problems? Any advice? I am not sure what other information I should provide that would help diagnose the problem... Right now I am having to use this easily-most-powerful-machine-in-my-network via ssh only from other machines as I don't have a spare keyboard and mouse to switch to it. Really want to get this machine fully back on its feet ASAP so any help appreciated... Thanks Mark Hello Mark, I have the same issue with same combo on my desktop computer. I had the same problem a few months ago and it was repaired as you explained. Sorry, I can't give you answers. I did a search and nothing helped. I've read these bug reports but this time they didn't help: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bluez/+bug/272352 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/291269 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1465748 Some help would be very appreciated -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkwzYKwACgkQ5iAh9f/+MxpnGwCfU9uOqSVNWYCqA9c+KdNzCInj MxYAnA6sfdfJdH/9Hr1eNKCgoL8oGAI4 =LzP4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c3360b0.2040...@gmail.com
Re: strange freezes or lock ups on memory intensive tasks
H.S. put forth on 7/6/2010 8:15 AM: On 06/07/10 02:47 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: What motherboard? Integrated video/GPU or add in card? Have you tried a different power supply yet? Motherboard: Gigabyte MA790GPT-UD3H. Chipset: AMD 790GX/SB750 Onboard graphics: ATI Radeon HD 3300 Graphics Audio chipset: Realtek ALC889A LAN: Gigabit, Realtek 8111C Presently I am using onboard graphics, but till a few weeks ago I was using a PCIe Nvidia graphics card and the computer was still freezing the same way. Have you tried a different power supply yet? Launching an app like FF puts simultaneous load on the CPU, memory, and hard disk(s). A marginal PSU can can cause problems like you are seeing under these conditions if it can't output the current required by the load. This is not uncommon. Hardware is relatively easy, time wise, to test and eliminate as causes of failure. Troubleshooting kernels and drivers can be much more time consuming. If you have another known good PSU swap it in and see if that fixes the problem. PSUs are the cheapest components in most PCs, and almost everyone overlooks the importance of a quality PSU when building a machine. They just take whatever comes with the case they order. Sometimes you get a lemon PSU this way. Only way to know is to swap it out. -- Stan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c336341.8060...@hardwarefreak.com
Re: RAID Questions
On 06/07/2010 16:16, Kent West wrote: I am a RAID newb. My goal is to have a redundant Debian (Stable) system, such that the second drive is a mirror of the first drive. I would think RAID1 would be the route to go. However, being a RAID newbie, I'm running into all sorts of problems, not least of which that I simply don't understand some of the basic concepts. Well, perhaps you should read up on the basic concepts. I'd start with: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAID http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAID_1 Then, for Linux (software) RAID: https://raid.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Linux_Raid or in a somewhat more readable (but older) form: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Software-RAID-HOWTO.html Then, for Debian RAID: Read the sections on RAID in the Debian installation manual. Basic summary of steps: 1. start installer, go through initial steps (keyboard, network, etc.) 2. start up disk partitioner -- create partitions - here's what I go with (but for servers) - do this for each drive (personally, I find it easer to do this with fdisk) part1 boot primary Linux RAID 2G part2 primary Linux RAID 3G for swap part3 primary Linux RAID rest of the space for root -- set up RAIDs /dev/md0 - 2G - ext3 (or ext4) file system, mount point is /boot /dev/md1 - 3G - swap /dev/md2 - REMAINDER OF DRIVE - ext3(4) file system, mount point / 3. rest of the installation procedure 4. after you've rebooted and are into your newly set up system: to make sure that you have grub installed on the MBRs of both drives (do some googling on boot +RAID1 to understand, also read up on grub) shell grub-install hd0 shell grub-install hd1 and then edit /boot/grub/menu.lst: #add these to boot off your second drive if the first fails default 0 fallback n -- n depends on where you duplicate your boot clause #duplicate your first boot clause, but change the line root (hd0,0) to root (hd1,0) ##test this - reboot, TAB to get into the boot screen, select the fallback boot, see if it works 5. One serious gotcha to watch out for, down the road: If one drive starts failing, the first symptom is often long delays in access time (the internal drive software keeps trying to read data, and if it can, it will eventually return). Unfortunately, Linux software RAID treats this as perfectly ok behavior - it will keep the drive in the array. But... your entire machine will slow to a complete crawl. Confusing as hell, until you realize what's going on. (On some laptops, a shorted battery causes the same symptom). Some things to do: - set up smart tools, keep an eye on the Raw_Read_Error_Rate value - if it's anything other than 0, start worrying - install something like atop (or precisely like atop) - if it shows that that one of your drives is near 100% busy, it's probably failing - if a drive is failing, use mdadm to fail the drive - things will start performing a lot better; then replace the drive - be VERY careful during recovery, it's pretty easy to destroy the good copy of your data (I learned this the hard way, the first time I ran into this particular failure mode) - as someone pointed out, RAID is not a substitute for backup - the first time I had to rebuild from a disk crash, despite RAID, I was glad all my user data was backed up. Either set up an external drive or subscribe to something like CrashPlan. Miles Fidelman -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. Infnord practice, there is. Yogi Berra -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c3364b5.8000...@meetinghouse.net
Re: how to automaticaly turn off touchpad using xinput
The problem is that sometimes the xinput id of the touchpad differs and having it in .xinputrc sometimes turned off the track point and sometimes even the keyboard which really hinders its usability. Is there some automatic way to do this in a secure fasion like using the name returned by input layer and used by xinput? Also after resume/suspend the touchpad is enabled again and I have to manualy turn it off. Haven't tried this in a while, as I'm using synclient now to do the job, but used to do what you're talking about by removing the psmouse module. If rmmod psmouse turns off your touchpad, and leaves the usb mice working, perhaps that would be a simple solution, with blacklist module, or rmmod script called by rc.local and a sleep.d hook assuming pm-utils. Best, AM -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktinbszeqxsn-ednpyyureefnukr1ey8yhnxs7...@mail.gmail.com
Re: password memory
Sorry but the save password option is checked and the exception list is empty. No joy. Any other ideas? Gary R. On 07/05/2010 10:28 PM, debian-user-digest-requ...@lists.debian.org wrote: Re: password memory -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c3366e6.1040...@verizon.net
Re: password memory
On Ma, 06 iul 10, 10:24:54, Gary L. Roach wrote: Sorry but the save password option is checked and the exception list is empty. No joy. Any other ideas? Move the .mozilla directory somewhere else and retry or just creat a new account. If it works you'll know it's something in the user configuration. Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: RAID Questions
On 06/07/10 18:15, Miles Fidelman wrote: 1. start installer, go through initial steps (keyboard, network, etc.) 2. start up disk partitioner -- create partitions - here's what I go with (but for servers) - do this for each drive (personally, I find it easer to do this with fdisk) part1 boot primary Linux RAID 2G part2 primary Linux RAID 3G for swap Personally. I can't see the point in using RAID for swap. So I use this partion on each drive as just a SWAP partition and add each swap in to give (in your case) 6G of swap space. part3 primary Linux RAID rest of the space for root -- set up RAIDs /dev/md0 - 2G - ext3 (or ext4) file system, mount point is /boot What to you envisage going in /boot? I make mine 100 M and that is always plenty. -- Alan Chandler http://www.chandlerfamily.org.uk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c33702b.9050...@chandlerfamily.org.uk
Re: RAID Questions
On Tue, 06 Jul 2010 11:27:31 -0500, Kent West wrote: On 07/06/2010 11:13 AM, Camaleón wrote: Second, are you sure you need a raid setup? :-) Nope; that's why I asked if I should go RAID or some other cloning technique. Is a home computer or a server/workstation? Can you (or your company) afford a disk going down or data loss? You should use (regarding raided or not) a good backup strategy :-) Yep; I've got an external Buffalo backup appliance that I will also be using. Good. Remember that raid does not prevent from the human error factor ;-) I would not go that way (Intel raid tends to be fake-raid) :-/ If you want to use pure software raid (linux raid), there is no need to setup nothing in the BIOS. Just tell the partitioner you ant to setup a raid1 level between the 2 disks. Ah. That's the piece of information I needed to get around my first hurdle. Thanks! Fake-raid (firmware+bios raid) is more used on dual-boot systems (windows and linux) when windows OS was configured for using a raid setup. In such cases, one has no other chance and keep the fake-raid in order to use linux :-( But if you are not binded to windows, better go with md (software linux) that is far more flexible and very well supported in linux. Although I'm not sure if today md setup allows booting from raid partition or still boot manager has to be dropped off the raid volume :-? Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.07.06.18.05...@gmail.com
Re: Network crashes under heavy load
I posted this earlier but it's not appeared on the list for some reason: Sorry about the delay I didn't have a chance to try anything yesterday. Anyway I've just tried a direct connection, updating BIOS, compiling and installing the latest drivers and it's still the same, if not worse - it seems I can crash it with as little as two iperf runs now. I'm still relatively inexperienced with Linux though so I might be doing something wrong. I haven't managed to find that PCI card yet but I'll keep looking or try to borrow one from a friend or something. I'm using an Intel Atom D510MO board and no RAID. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktimbj6bnr662npm6lllxxibci-fooljsggwtk...@mail.gmail.com
Re: RAID Questions
On 06/07/10 16:57, Bob Proulx wrote: Kent West wrote: partition and set mount points, the installer continues, but then won't install grub or lilo. I always create a separate /boot partition because I also configure LVM and grub doesn't know how to boot off of lvm. Therefore a separate /boot (on a software raid /dev/md0 logical partition) enables grub to boot. (I am talking grub from Lenny stable and before. I don't know if grub2 in Squeeze and later adds this capability.) I still thinking having a separate /dev/md0 for /boot makes a lot of sense. I have just (about 10 days ago) set up just such a configuration. I made my boot partition and used extlinux instead of grub or lilo. This was a result of a thread on this list about grub v lilo and someone mentioned extlinux and I decided to give it a go. REALLY easy to set up once I had installed the debian extlinux package (and removed grub pc). It helps with kernel upgrades if you adjust /etc/kernel-img.conf to set link_in_boot = yes (as this gives symlinks vmlinuz and initrd.img in the /boot directory as opposed to the root directory - which makes it easier for the extlinux.conf file to have its default kernel as /vmlinuz) (according to the syslinux/extlinux wiki you install it on the raid partition - but you then install an MBR into each original device's boot sector separately ) -- Alan Chandler http://www.chandlerfamily.org.uk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c3373a3.3000...@chandlerfamily.org.uk
Re: RAID Questions
On 07/06/2010 11:21 AM, Michal wrote: So..., you're saying that if I want to learn to use RAID, I should use Windows? I've been doing research on RAID for the past week, and none of the documentation I've found addresses my issues. No no, not at all. Have you tried running through a guide? A quick search will give you something like this http://www.howtoforge.com/software-raid1-grub-boot-debian-etch Running through guides is a good start to give you a feel of what's going on and how to do it, from there you can explore other ideas, ones that maybe better suited to you and your setup. Also you can see how you can recover. It's always best to test you actually know how to recoverer from raid failures rather then just think you know to find out that you where incorrect. finding out what hardware and software raid is only needs a wikipedia search for example, and as to use soft or hardware raid, have a search at the archives or just debates on the internet. Just remember that if you use hardware raid and your controller fails you will need to replace that. Can you use any controller or does it have to the exact same one? If it needs to be the exact same one and it's built in to the motherboard, what do you do? These are the questions you need answers to. Setting up software raid in Linux is very easy and you can do it at install. Tools like mdstat and mdadm etc will help you out As mentioned, none of the research I've done (including the Wikipedia article specifically addressing my hardware) has addressed my specific issues. But Bob and Camaleón have provided the extra umph I've needed to get over my first hurdle. Thanks! -- Kent West*))) http://kentwest.blogspot.com Praise Yah! \o/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c3374ef.70...@acu.edu
Re: RAID Questions
On 07/06/2010 11:13 AM, Camaleón wrote: On Tue, 06 Jul 2010 10:16:17 -0500, Kent West wrote: How do I get around the problems I'm seeing in the Debian paritioner (no bootable flag ... I'm thinking this must be a bug in the installer's partitioner. If I let the install create partitions automatically, the bootable flag is set. But if I unset it and then try to re-set it, or if I manually create partitions, I can not set the bootable flag. It stays off. -- Kent West*))) http://kentwest.blogspot.com Praise Yah! \o/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c337641.7010...@acu.edu
Re: advice on amd64
On 07/06/2010 01:40 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: Mark put forth on 7/5/2010 11:51 PM: I admire the OP's class in his response. Thought that comment about youtube and pr0n was completely unnecessary and unsolicited when I read it. Dry humor doesn't include emoticons. If you're that addicted to youtube and pr0n is only dryly humorous among friends. -- Seek truth from facts. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c337712.7000...@cox.net
Re: RAID Questions
On 06/07/10 19:30, Kent West wrote: On 07/06/2010 11:13 AM, Camaleón wrote: On Tue, 06 Jul 2010 10:16:17 -0500, Kent West wrote: How do I get around the problems I'm seeing in the Debian paritioner (no bootable flag ... I'm thinking this must be a bug in the installer's partitioner. If I let the install create partitions automatically, the bootable flag is set. But if I unset it and then try to re-set it, or if I manually create partitions, I can not set the bootable flag. It stays off. If you can't find a better alternative Alt f2 (I think its alt) to get an alternative console and use fdisk -- Alan Chandler http://www.chandlerfamily.org.uk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c3378b2.40...@chandlerfamily.org.uk