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Re: Don't drink and dupload ;-) ( Colla de sosos !!! ... i potser alguna sosa. #2 )

2010-07-06 Thread xavi
ping broadcast i tal? o que?



El dv 25 de 06 de 2010 a les 13:02 +0200, en/na Orestes Mas va escriure:
 El Dimecres dia Dimecres 23 Juny 2010 hub...@telefonica.net  
 hub...@telefonica.net hub...@telefonica.net va escriure:
  Mensaje original
  De: lorajo...@paranoici.org
  Fecha: 22/06/2010 9:58
  Para: Orestes Masores...@tsc.upc.edu
  CC: debian-user-catalan@lists.debian.org
  Asunto: Re: Donamp;#39;t drink and dupload ;-) ( Colla de sosos !!! ... i
  potser  alguna sosa. #2 )
  
   Jo en principi m'apunto, i sospito que com a mínim en Hubble i Pinto
   vindrien...
  
  Ja sabia jo que acabaria sent sospitós d'alguna cosa.
  Dons sospites be.
  
  apa, a veure si ens decidim d'una vegada.
 
 A partir del 7, que és quan torna el Serni. Potser el divendres 9, estaria bé?
 
 Orestes.
 
 


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Re: Don't drink and dupload ;-) ( Colla de sosos !!! ... i potser alguna sosa. #2 )

2010-07-06 Thread hubble

Jo diria que falten 3 dies


El Tue, 06 Jul 2010 12:55:36 +0200
xavi lorajo...@paranoici.org va dir:

 ping broadcast i tal? o que?
 
 
 
 El dv 25 de 06 de 2010 a les 13:02 +0200, en/na Orestes Mas va escriure:
  El Dimecres dia Dimecres 23 Juny 2010 hub...@telefonica.net  
  hub...@telefonica.net hub...@telefonica.net va escriure:
   Mensaje original
   De: lorajo...@paranoici.org
   Fecha: 22/06/2010 9:58
   Para: Orestes Masores...@tsc.upc.edu
   CC: debian-user-catalan@lists.debian.org
   Asunto: Re: Donamp;#39;t drink and dupload ;-) ( Colla de sosos !!! ... i
   potseralguna sosa. #2 )
   
Jo en principi m'apunto, i sospito que com a mínim en Hubble i Pinto
vindrien...
   
   Ja sabia jo que acabaria sent sospitós d'alguna cosa.
   Dons sospites be.
   
   apa, a veure si ens decidim d'una vegada.
  
  A partir del 7, que és quan torna el Serni. Potser el divendres 9, estaria 
  bé?
  
  Orestes.
  
  
 
 
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Re: Don't drink and dupload ;-) ( Colla de sosos !!! ... i potser alguna sosa. #2 )

2010-07-06 Thread casti
Jo responc al ping abans de que passi el timeout
Per si falten catadors, eh?
Em faltara alguna dada espai-temps gps-utc-gmt i tal pero em sembla que
aixo li falta a tothom

On Tue, 6 Jul 2010 14:34:30 +0200, hubble hub...@telefonica.net wrote:
 Jo diria que falten 3 dies
 
 
 El Tue, 06 Jul 2010 12:55:36 +0200
 xavi lorajo...@paranoici.org va dir:
 
 ping broadcast i tal? o que?
 
 
 
 El dv 25 de 06 de 2010 a les 13:02 +0200, en/na Orestes Mas va
escriure:
  El Dimecres dia Dimecres 23 Juny 2010 hub...@telefonica.net  
  hub...@telefonica.net hub...@telefonica.net va escriure:
   Mensaje original
   De: lorajo...@paranoici.org
   Fecha: 22/06/2010 9:58
   Para: Orestes Masores...@tsc.upc.edu
   CC: debian-user-catalan@lists.debian.org
   Asunto: Re: Don#39;t drink and dupload ;-) ( Colla de sosos !!!
   ... i
   potser   alguna sosa. #2 )
   
Jo en principi m'apunto, i sospito que com a mínim en Hubble i
Pinto
vindrien...
   
   Ja sabia jo que acabaria sent sospitós d'alguna cosa.
   Dons sospites be.
   
   apa, a veure si ens decidim d'una vegada.
  
  A partir del 7, que és quan torna el Serni. Potser el divendres 9,
  estaria bé?
  
  Orestes.
  
  
 
 
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Re: Don't drink and dupload ;-) ( Colla de sosos !!! ... i potser alguna sosa. #2 )

2010-07-06 Thread Orestes Mas
A Dimarts, 6 de juliol de 2010 19:57:33, casti va escriure:
 Jo responc al ping abans de que passi el timeout
 Per si falten catadors, eh?
 Em faltara alguna dada espai-temps gps-utc-gmt i tal pero em sembla que
 aixo li falta a tothom
 
A veure si el Serni torna de vacances i fa una proposta.

Orestes.


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Re: mount: mounting /dev on /root/dev failed: No such file or directory

2010-07-06 Thread mess-mate

On 07/05/2010 09:51 PM, Erwan David wrote:

Le Mon  5/07/2010, mess-mate disait
   

c'est un noyau 2.6.30.
J'ai le noyau 2.6.32-5 de squeeze mais il ne fonctionne pas avec la
carte NVIDIA.
Installer le driver (binary de nvidia) comme je fait pour les noyaux
précédents ne marche pas non plus.
Faut-il que je compile un noyau moi-même ou en existe-il un de debian ?
amicalement
 

Tu peux essayer nouveau (marche très bien chez moi) ou utiliser le paquet 
nvidia-kernel-dkms qui compile un driver nvidia pour le kernel installé.

   

Bonjour,
merci à tous pour l'aide.
J'ai fini par compiler un noyau moi-même, le 2.6.34 que j'ai pris chez 
kernel.org.

Lors de la compilation j'avais un message 'asm-x86 does not exist' !!
Ca marche à merveille.
L'ennui c'est que ma lenny sur un autre dd ne boot toujours pas du fait 
qu'il utilise un autre noyau.

amicalement



Re: fax repondeur sous dedian

2010-07-06 Thread Yves Rutschle
On Tue, Jul 06, 2010 at 02:21:42AM +0200, JF Straeten wrote:
 - la certitude (technique) de l'envoi : le doc est craché directement
   sur l'appareil destinataire, sans intermédiaire qui induit un risque
   dans la chaîne de transmission ;

Sauf cas de réception logicielle, par ex. chez Free tu peux
recevoir un fax qui t'est ensuite transmis en PDF. Ou
appareil de réception defectueux qui marche suffisament pour
recevoir le doc et pas assez pour l'imprimer. Ou attaquant
qui se place entre ton fax et le destinataire et se fait
passer pour celui-ci.

Je ne vois pas comment on peut être certain de quoi que ce
soit.

 - la preuve (technique et juridique) de l'envoi : grâce au rapport de
   transmission. 

Certainement pas une preuve technique, et uniquement un
preuve juridique parce que les juristes ne comprenent pas
très bien la technique peut-être. Après tout, ces gens-là
trouvent qu'une signature au stylo peut prouver qqch :)

 À y regarder un peu, c'est plus fiable que le recommandé postal.

Je ne suis pas convaincu.

Y.

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Re: Forcer la déconnexion ssh

2010-07-06 Thread Rémi Vanicat
Goldy go...@goldenfish.info writes:

 
 Utiliser le caractère d'echapement. Par défaut c'est '~' et '~.' ferme la 
 connexion.
 Pour l'aide en ligne '~?' et 'man ssh' pour plus d'infos!
 A+

 Merci pour les réponses.

 J'avais essayé justement et ça n'avait pas marcher. Après un nouvel
 essai, ça fonctionne.

Il est parfois nécessaire d'utiliser la touche entrée avant le ~
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Re: fax repondeur sous dedian

2010-07-06 Thread Julien Demange

Bonjour,

Le 05/07/2010 22:13, Jean-Yves F. Barbier a écrit :


Dommage que les fabricants laissent tomber le modem RTC, surtout que tout
le monde n'a pas l'ISDN et que le fax reste quand même le seul moyen
juridique de contestation (à moins que je n'ai loupé une diarrhée
législative, ce qui est tout à fait possible, même le certificat
électronique n'est pas vraiment au point de ce côté là.)


J'ai bien peur que le fax n'ai jamais eut de vrai valeur juridique...

Attention, je ne suis pas juriste. Néanmoins, j'ai abordé ce point avec 
quelques personnes qui savent un peu de quoi elles parlent question 
validité juridique enfin je pense.


Contrairement à un mythe, tout à potentiellement une valeur juridique, 
mais rien n'est vraiment fiable.
En fait, même les paroles ont une valeur juridique, comme une 
conversation téléphonique. Mais il faut une preuve de ce qui a été 
dit/écrit pour que ça devienent opposable devant un tribunal. C'est la 
fiabilité de cette preuve qui va donner une valeur juridique au bouzin.
La preuve devant bien sur êtres obtenue légalement sans ça elle n'est 
pas recevable.
Une des personnes qui m'a expliqué cela travaille dans la finance, ou 
les ordres d'opérations doivent aller vite (pas question de faire un 
courrier). Et tout ce fait par téléphone (v'la que je demande un 
transfert de je ne sais combien d'Eur par téléphone...). Par question 
que ça soit contestable. Or dans les finaces (enfin dans certain cas) 
les conversation doivent êtres enregistré (pour permettre à la brigade 
financière d'écouter s'il y a eut délit) ; ces enregistrements peuvent 
servir pour prouver qu'un ordre d'un client à été donné.


A coté de ça, un courrier recommandé bien que pouvant servir de preuve 
peut êtres contestable. En fait, il permet à l'expéditeur de prouver 
qu'il a envoyé quelque chose ça en plus. Il ne permet par ex pas de 
prouve au destinataire que l'expéditeur est bien celui qu'il prétend 
(enfin pas de façon certaine).
C'est AMHA, un peu comme la sécurité informatique, ce qu'il y a à 
prouver /sécuriser va justifier les besoin de pouvoir le prouver 
juridiquement.


Personnellement, je dirais que le fax, à une fiabilité comparable au 
mail non signé : ce qu'il y a de moins sécurisé. Falsifier un fax est à 
la porté de n'importe quel faussaire, c'est une photocopie de mauvaise 
qualité ;un petit coup de Gimp est le tour est joué. Les indications 
ajoutées par le fax sont indiquées par l'expéditeur est facile à changer.
Il y a le cas d'une personne qui c'est fait évader de prison avec un 
faut fax !


Il y a quelques entreprises qui se contentent d'un mail pour valider une 
commande, même si c'est bien rare.


A l'opposé, le mail signé numériquement me semble le plus dur a 
contrefaire, est donc potentiellement la meilleur preuve juridique. 
Après c'est une histoire d'expert devans un tribunal (si un expert 
affirme que le fax est infalsifiable un magistrat pourrait le croire).




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2010-07-06 Thread Mike Genkin


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Re: fax repondeur sous dedian

2010-07-06 Thread Julien Demange

Bonjour,

Le 06/07/2010 02:21, JF Straeten a écrit :


On Mon, Jul 05, 2010 at 10:32:46PM +0200, Jean-Yves F. Barbier wrote:


Un fax a la même valeur qu'une photocpie. Le seul moyen
ncontestable c'est le Telex.



Vi, c'est vrai, mais en dessous de €3000 il me semble que le fax
fait aussi foi.


Je ne connais pas la valeur juridique ou du moins la fiabilité du telex.
Concernant la valeur juridique voir mon mail en réponse à J'an-Yves.



Connais pas la législation française, et on n'a rien tel en Belgique,
mais le fax n'est pas près de disparaître pour les raisons de :


Le fax n'est pas prêt de disparaitre, surtout car même dans une ML dédié 
à un OS aussi libre est fiable que débian, on trouve des gens pour lui 
donné des vertus que je fax n'a pourtant pas.




- la certitude (technique) de l'envoi : le doc est craché directement
   sur l'appareil destinataire, sans intermédiaire qui induit un risque
   dans la chaîne de transmission ;


Ouais, enfin de moins en moins. Car de plus en plus converti en PDF (ou 
autre) puis transmit par des procédés plutôt informatique.




- la preuve (technique et juridique) de l'envoi : grâce au rapport de
   transmission.


Preuve d'une fiabilité des plus discutable.
Prenons un cas concret : là ou je travail.
Les fax arrivent sur un copieur en réseaux, ce dernier les converti en 
PDF puis enregistre sur un serveur de fichier dans un répertoire qui va 
bien (*).
Si le serveur n'est pas accessible, et bien le fax est bel et bien 
perdu, l'expéditeur ayant bien reçus l'accusé de transmission. J'ai fait 
quelque test à ce sujet (j'avoue que je considère ça comme un bug du 
copieur/fax) !


'*) En fait ça ne concerne qu'un seul numéros de fax, on va passer à
   Hylafax un de ces quatre matins, pour ce fax est tous les autres.



À y regarder un peu, c'est plus fiable que le recommandé postal.


Le fax a été une superbe invention dans les années 80. quelque chose qui 
a énormément aidé toutes les entreprise et administrations.


Mais dans les annés 2000 le fax est totalement dépassé, il cumule tous 
les défauts : le fax est ce qu'il ya de moins fiable (très facile à 
falsifier), de moins sur (aucune certitude de transmission), n'a pas de 
valeur juridique réel...

Bref, vaut mieux un bon e-mail qu'un mauvais fax !

Vous comparer ça au courrier recommandé de La Poste, ça me fait peur. ;)


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Re: Driver 'sd' needs updating - please use bus_type methods

2010-07-06 Thread steve
Le 05-07-2010, à 19:43:32 +0200, mess-mate (messm...@free.fr) a écrit :

 Bonjour,

Salut,

 quelqu'un pourrait me dire ce qu'il faut faire exactement ?

Rien d'après ce que j'avais pu lire quelque part. D'ailleurs j'imagine
que ta machine fonctionne correctement malgré ce message, tout comme
chez moi. 

s.

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Re: fax repondeur sous dedian

2010-07-06 Thread Jérôme
Le mardi 06 juillet 2010 à 02:21 +0200, JF Straeten a écrit :
 Connais pas la législation française, et on n'a rien tel en Belgique,
 mais le fax n'est pas près de disparaître pour les raisons de :
 
 - la certitude (technique) de l'envoi : le doc est craché directement
   sur l'appareil destinataire, sans intermédiaire qui induit un risque
   dans la chaîne de transmission ;
 
 - la preuve (technique et juridique) de l'envoi : grâce au rapport de
   transmission. 

Ça c'est du pipo, on peut trafiquer du fax bien plus facilement que du
mail crypté-signé et la majorité des fax sont purement virtuels. Ce qui
était vrai autrefois ne l'est plus du tout avec l'évolution des
techniques. Par contre c'est vrai que le mail ne garantis pas la
lecture, donc sans réponse, pas d'élément de preuve.

 À y regarder un peu, c'est plus fiable que le recommandé postal. 

(-_-);  Le recommandé postal est quand même assez fiable dans les
régions ou le facteur (intérimaire) fait son boulot, en ne déposant pas
un unique avis de passage sur le paillasson pour économiser du temps, ou
en ne faisant pas signer le voisin ou le concierge sur un pli nominatif.

Bref, l'avantage du fax est essentiellement côté lecteur : Ça arrive
souvent imprimé et, par habitudes historique et manque
d'information/compétences, les gens le lisent chaque jour contrairement
à leur boite aux lettres spamifiée de FAI ou de hotmail.

Après ça conserve une certaine valeur juridique de présomption de
preuve, a mon avis injustifiée. Mais a une époque ou l'hado-IP forgée
par 3 gus dans un garage est censée être une preuve...

Amicalement
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Re: Driver 'sd' needs updating - please use bus_type methods

2010-07-06 Thread mess-mate

On 07/06/2010 11:00 AM, steve wrote:

Le 05-07-2010, à 19:43:32 +0200, mess-mate (messm...@free.fr) a écrit :

   

Bonjour,
 

Salut,

   

quelqu'un pourrait me dire ce qu'il faut faire exactement ?
 

Rien d'après ce que j'avais pu lire quelque part. D'ailleurs j'imagine
que ta machine fonctionne correctement malgré ce message, tout comme
chez moi.

s.

   

En effet, elle fonctionne comme il faut.
Selon mes googles ça date déjà et existe toujours.
Je ferais donc avce...
amicalement



[résolu] iceweasel -- Gestionaire de certificat -- vos certificats -- err eur import

2010-07-06 Thread hého
Bonjour,

J'avais des problèmes dans Iceweasel
pour importer mon certificat .pfx de impots.gouv.fr
afin d'accéder à mon espace:
voici l'erreur:

Échec de récupération du fichier PKCS#12 pour une raison inconnue.

j'ai trouvé ici la solution :

http://forum.debian-fr.org/viewtopic.php?f=3t=21498p=250178

il suffit de désactiver le module complémentaire torbutton

et depuis, ça a importé et j'accède.

En espérant que ça sera utile
parce que c'est pas évident évident ;)

cordialement
hého

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[HS] Apache en reverse proxy devant IIS

2010-07-06 Thread Romaric DEFAUX

Salut à tous,

J'ai mis apache en reverse proxy devant mon serveur IIS, et maintenant 
les urls qui contiennent des accents (graves ou aigus) ne sont plus 
trouvées... J'ai essayé de modifié le adddefaultcharset (à utf-8, à 
ISO-8859-15, à off), mais rien n'y fait...

Vous auriez une piste, de quelles infos avez-vous besoin ?

D'avance merci

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Re: [HS] Apache en reverse proxy devant IIS

2010-07-06 Thread Jean-Yves F. Barbier
Le Tue, 06 Jul 2010 17:36:02 +0200,
Romaric DEFAUX r...@audaxis.com a écrit :

 Salut à tous,
 
 J'ai mis apache en reverse proxy devant mon serveur IIS, et maintenant 
 les urls qui contiennent des accents (graves ou aigus) ne sont plus 
 trouvées... J'ai essayé de modifié le adddefaultcharset (à utf-8, à 
 ISO-8859-15, à off), mais rien n'y fait...
 Vous auriez une piste, de quelles infos avez-vous besoin ?

a2enmod recode?


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surveillance d'un raid materiel

2010-07-06 Thread C. Mourad Jaber

Bonjour,

Je cherche un outil pour pouvoir surveiller un RAID matériel sur un 
PowerEdge R310 (Contrôleur PERC H200).


J'ai vu openmanager qui est fournis pas DELL, mais il n'y a pas de 
paquet debian et ils sont assez floue sur le fonctionnement de ce 
programme ailleurs que sur Redhat, suse...


Avant que je me lance dans ce soft, est-ce qu'il y a une autre solution, 
de préférence open source et debian ?


++

Mourad

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Re: surveillance d'un raid materiel

2010-07-06 Thread Jean-Yves F. Barbier
Le Tue, 06 Jul 2010 20:33:13 +0200,
C. Mourad Jaber m...@nativobject.net a écrit :

 Je cherche un outil pour pouvoir surveiller un RAID matériel sur un 
 PowerEdge R310 (Contrôleur PERC H200).
 
 J'ai vu openmanager qui est fournis pas DELL, mais il n'y a pas de 
 paquet debian et ils sont assez floue sur le fonctionnement de ce 
 programme ailleurs que sur Redhat, suse...

Perso, j'ai plusieurs fois eu à faire avec de l'existant sous SuSe par le
passé, et l'adaptation à Debian n'a jamais vraiment posée de PB.
 
cependant, voici un post récent:
Issue: The H200 PERC RAID controller requires device drivers that are only
present in Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5.4 and above.

 Avant que je me lance dans ce soft, est-ce qu'il y a une autre solution, 
 de préférence open source et debian ?

Apparemment non à cette date; le driver semble avoir été réalisé
directement par dell et n'apparaît pas dans la base de connaissances de
LSI, cela veut dire en Gal que le donneur d'ordre a demandé un changement
dans le masquage du chip, le rendant donc inopérent avec l'original.
Beaucoup de constructeurs merdeux font cela, et de plus en plus, parce que
les Sces marketing leur disent que c'est la seule manière de garder leur
clients captifs (cf également le lecteur d'empreintes installé sur les vaïo
avec un firmware modifié par sony, au hasard.)

La seule solution est de ne pas manquer de les dénoncer publiquement dès
que l'occasion se présente et de ne pas utiliser un hardware drivé par une
solt proprio (ou même open-source, mais donc le developpement n'est pas
public et l'accès aux sources aléatoire.)
Pour éviter cela, il faut un minimum de veille technologique plus une étude
avant achat.

Dans ton cas, soit tu peux utiliser la carte juste en tant que contrôleur,
et tu passes par du Software RAID, soit tu essayes d'adapter la solt RH en
espérant qu'elle ne te pêtera pas dans le doigts, soit tu changes pour un
vrai contrôleur, référencé, supporté etc.

Maintenant, passer par du SW-RAID apporte rarement des PBs de perfs (sauf
cas très extrêmes); le code est très stable et a subi des tas de bonnes
modifs le rendant top-moumoute, donc pas d'inquiétude à avoir (sauf pour
ceux qui persistent à croire que la dernière version, c'est la
meilleure!, Pro, en informatique, ça veut d'abord dire stable et
éprouvé...)


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Re: surveillance d'un raid materiel

2010-07-06 Thread Daniel Huhardeaux

Le 06/07/2010 20:33, C. Mourad Jaber a écrit :

Bonjour,

Je cherche un outil pour pouvoir surveiller un RAID matériel sur un 
PowerEdge R310 (Contrôleur PERC H200).


J'ai vu openmanager qui est fournis pas DELL, mais il n'y a pas de 
paquet debian et ils sont assez floue sur le fonctionnement de ce 
programme ailleurs que sur Redhat, suse...


Avant que je me lance dans ce soft, est-ce qu'il y a une autre 
solution, de préférence open source et debian ?


Rajouter au source list

deb http://ftp./sara/./nl//pub/sara-/omsa/ dell sara

Cela dit, comme précisé par JYFB, je préfère nettement faire du raid 
logiciel sur mes Dell

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2010-07-06 Thread Mike Genkin


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Re: OT tomcat en servidor heardless

2010-07-06 Thread Trujillo Carmona, Antonio

El lun, 05-07-2010 a las 09:13 -0500, Moises Alberto Lindo Gutarra
escribió:
 Quita ese parametro. Sólo sirve si el servidor linux
 no tiene instalado el entorno gráfico y se quiere
 manipular en tiempo de ejecución imagenes.
 

Es que el servidor es dedicado, tipo blade y no tiene consola, por lo
que es absurdo instalarle un entorno gráfico que nadie va a poder usar. 

 El día 5 de julio de 2010 08:02, Trujillo Carmona, Antonio
 antonio.trujillo.s...@juntadeandalucia.es escribió:
 
  Estoy intentando montar un servidor (para paras el tomcat de windows a
  linux) me he encontrado con que hay que ponerle un parametro que no era
  necesario en windows (-Djava.awt.headless=true), pero así y todo A la
  hora de crear una clase que hereda de Applet se lanza la siguiente
  excepción: java.awt.HeadlessException
 
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Re: Problemas con Monitor HD (1920x1080)

2010-07-06 Thread Camaleón
El Tue, 06 Jul 2010 00:49:52 -0400, Francisco Javier Aravena Jimenez
escribió:

(...)
 
 Instale los Drivers privativos (Los ultimos) genere un XOrg y agregue
 los valores pero al reiniciar no entra en modo gráfico... 

¿Qué valores pusiste en el xorg.conf, exactamente? Sólo deberías tener 
dos cosas: 

- Sección Module Load glx
- Sección Device Driver nvidia

El resto, dejarlo como estaba. Si tienes algún problema, revisa el /var/
log/Xorg.0.log.

 si elimino Xorg, entra pero con una resolución de 1024x768...

Recuerda que también puedes probar con el driver nv (2D) y el nuevo, 
nouveau (para este último necesitas activar KMS).

 La verdad no se por donde empezar, solo una vez me dio la resolución
 correcta de hay nada mas, no se como poder forzarla al poner manualmente
 los datos al xorg no funca...

¿Qué entorno gráfico, GNOME, KDE, otro...? ¿Entrada VGA, DVI-D, otra...?

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Re: OT tomcat en servidor heardless

2010-07-06 Thread German Cardozo
2010/7/7 Trujillo Carmona, Antonio antonio.trujillo.s...@juntadeandalucia.es:

 El lun, 05-07-2010 a las 09:13 -0500, Moises Alberto Lindo Gutarra
 escribió:
 Quita ese parametro. Sólo sirve si el servidor linux
 no tiene instalado el entorno gráfico y se quiere
 manipular en tiempo de ejecución imagenes.


 Es que el servidor es dedicado, tipo blade y no tiene consola, por lo
 que es absurdo instalarle un entorno gráfico que nadie va a poder usar.

 El día 5 de julio de 2010 08:02, Trujillo Carmona, Antonio
 antonio.trujillo.s...@juntadeandalucia.es escribió:
 
  Estoy intentando montar un servidor (para paras el tomcat de windows a
  linux) me he encontrado con que hay que ponerle un parametro que no era
  necesario en windows (-Djava.awt.headless=true), pero así y todo A la
  hora de crear una clase que hereda de Applet se lanza la siguiente
  excepción: java.awt.HeadlessException
 


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Buenos Días:

Aunque esto sale de la línea de discusión de la lista, trataré de
ayudarte un poco. En efecto, la propiedad -Djava.awt.headless=true
es necesaria si estas haciendo render de imágenes, particularmente
si la aplicación trabaja en un  ambiente que no cuenta con un ambiente
gráfico iniciado. Es importante este ambiente, para que la JVM pueda
realizar y apoyar la generación de imágenes.

En aplicaciones WEB esto es particularmente importante, ya que la
mayoría de los casos, estas no cuentan con una cónsola gráfica para
desplegar las salidas. Y si usan JasperReport o cualquier otra
aplicación de generación de reportes, se debe especificar esta opción,
para que genere los gráficos asociados a los reportes (inclusive si
son sólamente texto).

Ahora bien, la clase Applet genera sus gráficas usando el sandbox
que le ofrece el navegador web, o el display según se use. Aunque
desconozco el uso que le das a la clase, si es presentar esta en el
navegador, ella debería ejecutarse en el JVM del navegador, que escapa
de los dominios del servidor.

Si lo usas internamente, dentro del servidor, la clase Applet no hace
caso a la propiedad headless, ya que su uso esta restringido a la
disponibilidad de un display. En este caso, pudieras hacer uso de un
FrameBuffer, y apuntar tu aplicación hacia él. Estos sitios explican
con un poco mas de detalle este problema, y presentan algunas
soluciones:

http://java.sun.com/developer/technicalArticles/J2SE/Desktop/headless/
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/445049/java-awt-headlessexception-applet-not-displayed
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/508733/java-awt-headlessexception-applet-not-displayed-part-2

Espero te sirva de ayuda.

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Problemas espacio.

2010-07-06 Thread Esteban Torres
Buenas,

En mi servidor samba me quedan unos 50 Gb libres de unos 2 Tb que tengo
para toda la empresa. No tengo montado cuotas y ahora me encuentro con el
problema de que los usuarios se han comido todo el espacio. Los jefes me
han dicho que no hay pasta para mas discos (esta crisis...). 

Entonces, para solucionar el problema he pensado en hacer un barrido y
buscar ficheros mp3, wav, avi, etc. y sobre todo copias de copias de
copias que han ido haciendo los propios usuarios. Por ejemplo, usuario1 q


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Re: Problemas espacio.

2010-07-06 Thread Odair Augusto Trujillo Orozco
El día 6 de julio de 2010 11:05, Esteban Torres etor...@dap.es escribió:
 Buenas,

 En mi servidor samba me quedan unos 50 Gb libres de unos 2 Tb que tengo
 para toda la empresa. No tengo montado cuotas y ahora me encuentro con el
 problema de que los usuarios se han comido todo el espacio. Los jefes me
 han dicho que no hay pasta para mas discos (esta crisis...).

 Entonces, para solucionar el problema he pensado en hacer un barrido y
 buscar ficheros mp3, wav, avi, etc. y sobre todo copias de copias de
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Es una buena idea, luego de bajar la información de cada usuario a una cantidad
decente, ahí si asignas cuotas.

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Fwd: Problemas espacio.

2010-07-06 Thread Esteban Torres
Por favor, borren el correo anterior. He pulsado el enter sin terminar

Buenas,

En mi servidor samba me quedan unos 50 Gb libres de unos 2 Tb que tengo
para toda la empresa. No tengo montado cuotas y ahora me encuentro con el
problema de que los usuarios se han comido todo el espacio. Los jefes me
han dicho que no hay pasta para mas discos (esta crisis...). 

Entonces, para solucionar el problema he pensado en hacer un barrido y
buscar ficheros mp3, wav, avi, etc. y sobre todo copias de copias de
copias que han ido haciendo los propios usuarios. Por ejemplo, usuario1
que hace todos los años backup de sus ficheros locales Mis documentos en
el servidor y que cuando quiere modificar algo vuelve a hacer otra copia de
los mismo por que ya no se acuerda si ha modificado algo mas.

En fin.

Se os ocurre alguna manera de liberar espacio? Como puedo averiguar
ficheros idénticos en diferentes directorios?

He pensado en hacer un hash a los ficheros, funcionaria?


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Re: Fwd: Problemas espacio.

2010-07-06 Thread mariodebian
El mar, 06-07-2010 a las 18:12 +0200, Esteban Torres escribió:
 Por favor, borren el correo anterior. He pulsado el enter sin terminar
 
 Buenas,
 
 En mi servidor samba me quedan unos 50 Gb libres de unos 2 Tb que tengo
 para toda la empresa. No tengo montado cuotas y ahora me encuentro con el
 problema de que los usuarios se han comido todo el espacio. Los jefes me
 han dicho que no hay pasta para mas discos (esta crisis...). 
 
 Entonces, para solucionar el problema he pensado en hacer un barrido y
 buscar ficheros mp3, wav, avi, etc. y sobre todo copias de copias de
 copias que han ido haciendo los propios usuarios. Por ejemplo, usuario1
 que hace todos los años backup de sus ficheros locales Mis documentos en
 el servidor y que cuando quiere modificar algo vuelve a hacer otra copia de
 los mismo por que ya no se acuerda si ha modificado algo mas.
 
 En fin.
 
 Se os ocurre alguna manera de liberar espacio? Como puedo averiguar
 ficheros idénticos en diferentes directorios?
 
 He pensado en hacer un hash a los ficheros, funcionaria?
 
 



Puedes usar un script con fdupes y hacer enlaces duros de los archivos
repetidos con eso ganarás bastante espacio y los usuarios no se
enterarán.

A largo plazo lo mejor será limpieza y aplicar quotas.




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Re: Thunderbird

2010-07-06 Thread Lester Pastrana

El 7/5/2010 9:28 AM, Camaleón escribió:

El Mon, 05 Jul 2010 08:48:40 -0400, Lester Pastrana escribió:

   

Uso thunderbird 3.0,1 y tengo una lista de filtros creados pero solo se
me ejecutan cuando los correos llegan y me interesa que se ejecuten
tanto para los correos que entran como para los que sales alguien puede
ayudarme?
 

Hasta donde sé, los de Mozilla tenían pensando incluir esa funcionalidad
en la rama 3.x, pero no sé si ya estará disponible.

Si no está (o no funciona) también puedes usar algún complemento:

Send Filter
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Saludos,

   

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[¿Solución?] [Workaround] Grub y dmraid. Fallo al actualizar squeeze

2010-07-06 Thread AngelD
El Tue, 6 Jul 2010 02:00:33 +0200
AngelD ang...@froga.net escribió:

 El Tue, 06 Jul 2010 00:35:35 +0200
 erl erl.lis...@chips-tips.com escribió:
 
  El 05/07/10 19:09, AngelD escribió:
 Al intentar actualizar con aptitude, este me dice este
   churro de errores:
  
 Configurando linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64 (2.6.32-15) ...
 Running depmod.
 Running update-initramfs.
 update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-5-amd64
 W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/rtl8168d-2.fw for
   module r8169 W: Possible missing
   firmware /lib/firmware/rtl8168d-1.fw for module r8169
   initrd.img(/boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-5-amd64 ) points
   to /boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-5-amd64
   (/boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-5-amd64) -- doing nothing
   at /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64.postinst line
   400. vmlinuz(/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-5-amd64 ) points
   to /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-5-amd64 (/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-5-amd64) --
   doing nothing
   at /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64.postinst line
   400. Running update-grub. Generating
   grub.cfg ... /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a GRUB drive
   for /dev/mapper/isw_bejfbiafd_raid11.  Check your device.map. User
   postinst hook script [update-grub] exited with value 1
  
   Si miramos la linea 400 del
   var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64.postinst:
  
 warn $kimage($vmlinuz_target) points to $target ($real_target)
   -- doing nothing
  
 por lo que intuyo puede haber algún problema entre el grub
   y la configuración de 'dmraid'. En su momento me costó bastante
   lograr que funcionara, pero ahora no recuerdo exactamente como lo
   hice, o si tiene alguna relación con el problema actual.
  
 Lo más parecido que he encontrado ha sido el bug 587754,
   pero sin solución ni apaño aparente.
  
 Saludos --- Angel
  
   http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=587754
  
  
  Creo q ese warning no es indicativo de nada. Si el siguiente:
  
  usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a GRUB drive
  
  y te apunta a lo q deberías mirar: Check your device.map.
 
   Mi /boot/grub/device.map dice:
 
  (hd0)/dev/sda
  (hd1)/dev/sdb
 
   que es lo normal. El comando me parece que falla cuando
 intenta chequear la partición /boot:
 
  grub-probe -d /dev/mapper/isw_bejfbiafd_raid11
 
   He intentado desmontar este grupo y montar uno de los discos
 que lo forman, pero sin desarmar el raid no hay manera que funcione.
 Si lograra esto, el grub-probe no se quejaría.
 
  Recuerdo haber tenido problemas con ext4 y grub2 . No será tu caso?
  También porque el update-initramfs me dejaba fuera el dmraid. No
  recuerdo bien como solucioné ni uno ni otro.
 
   Sip, también tuve problemas con ext4 y Grub que logré
 solucionar, y no recuerdo como. :-( 
 
   Ahora sospecho que es un problema con la versión actual de
 Grub en Squeeze, pero mientras en otro equipo (sin dmraid) logré
 solucionarlo instalando el Grub de Sid, en este no encuentro forma
 humana de apañarlo. 

Bueno, si que hay forma de apañarlo, aunque la solución sea
temporal y no muy limpia.

Como el problema parece reside en la utilidad 'grub-probe', he
cambiado esta (/usr/sbin/grub-probe) por un echo ext2, consiguiendo
siempre el resultado deseado, terminando la actualización correctamente.

Ahora sólo queda esperar que se resuelva el problema, para no
tener que repetir esta operación tras cada actualización.

Saludos --- Angel


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Re: Thunderbird

2010-07-06 Thread Camaleón
El Tue, 06 Jul 2010 14:34:03 -0400, Lester Pastrana escribió:

 El 7/5/2010 9:28 AM, Camaleón escribió:

 Si no está (o no funciona) también puedes usar algún complemento:

 Send Filter
 https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/5538/

 Bueno o no lo agregaron o no se como hacerlo :(

Prueba con el complemento a ver qué resultado te da.

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Re: Fwd: Problemas espacio.

2010-07-06 Thread German Cardozo
2010/7/7 mariodebian mariodeb...@gmail.com:
 El mar, 06-07-2010 a las 18:12 +0200, Esteban Torres escribió:
 Por favor, borren el correo anterior. He pulsado el enter sin terminar

 Buenas,

 En mi servidor samba me quedan unos 50 Gb libres de unos 2 Tb que tengo
 para toda la empresa. No tengo montado cuotas y ahora me encuentro con el
 problema de que los usuarios se han comido todo el espacio. Los jefes me
 han dicho que no hay pasta para mas discos (esta crisis...).

 Entonces, para solucionar el problema he pensado en hacer un barrido y
 buscar ficheros mp3, wav, avi, etc. y sobre todo copias de copias de
 copias que han ido haciendo los propios usuarios. Por ejemplo, usuario1
 que hace todos los años backup de sus ficheros locales Mis documentos en
 el servidor y que cuando quiere modificar algo vuelve a hacer otra copia de
 los mismo por que ya no se acuerda si ha modificado algo mas.

 En fin.

 Se os ocurre alguna manera de liberar espacio? Como puedo averiguar
 ficheros idénticos en diferentes directorios?

 He pensado en hacer un hash a los ficheros, funcionaria?





 Puedes usar un script con fdupes y hacer enlaces duros de los archivos
 repetidos con eso ganarás bastante espacio y los usuarios no se
 enterarán.

 A largo plazo lo mejor será limpieza y aplicar quotas.




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Muy Buenas Noches:

Pudieras realizar primeramente una localización de archivos candidatos
a ser borrados (*.mp?, *.wav, *.avi) y ver que tan significativo puede
ser esto. Para ello puedes usar el siguiente comando, desde el
directorio o punto de montura que contenga los archivos de usuarios:

host:~# find . -type f -and \( -name *.mp? -or -name *.avi \)
-exec du -h {} \;

Preferiblemente redirecciona tu búsqueda a un archivo. Si decides que
debes borrarlos todos, puedes ejecutar el mismo comando, cambiando el
argumento -exec por algo como rm -rf {}, es decir:

host:~# find . -type f -and \( -name *.mp? -or -name *.avi \)
-exec rm -rf {} \;

En caso de tener que ser mas selectivo, puedes ejecutar en cada
directorio de usuario que decidas realizar la limpieza.

Existen herramientas mas sofisticadas para realizar un inventario por
tipos de archivos o Disk Usage Analyzers, como Filelight, KDirStat
o Baobab. Estas de forma gráfica te pueden dat información relativa
a tu uso del espacio en disco, pero dependen de una interfaz gráfica
para su uso. Otro listado grande de herramientas aqui:
http://freshmeat.net/search/?q=disk+space.

Otra manera es ingresar en el directorio padre de todos los usuarios,
dependiendo de tu estructura (ej. /home/ing o /home/admon) y ejecutar
un:

host:~# du -hs *

para totalizar el espacio usado por cada usuario, ver quienes tienen
mas espacio usado y analizar según el criterio de la organización
quien debería tener menos espacio, y empezar a limpiar o realizar
advertencias a estos.

Te recomiendo también que revises % de inodos en uso, para verificar
si aún tienes disponibles:

host:~# df -i

De resto, como ya te recomendaron algún otro listero, trata de aplicar
cuotas de disco a tus usuarios, para garantizar un mejor control de
los recursos de disco.

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Re: en otra de ataque a mi servidor de correo

2010-07-06 Thread Carlos Lopez
Hola,


Otra cosa que puedes hacer es :

1- Si tienes control sobre el router, limitar las conexiones simultaneas de las 
IPs, ello, dado que las empresas responsables no envían emails de forma 
continua, sino, que sus programas de correos (servidores) los envian entre 3/5 
minutos de intervalos y cuando hay varios emails cuyo remitentes sean del mismo 
dominio, pues, usan la misma conexion y así se evitan el problema de ser 
baneados por el firewall. 

2- Puedes también SPF sobre el Remitente, asegurándote que la dirección de 
origen sea válida en un dominio.

3- Puedes implementar el bloqueo de IP desde la aplicación de correo basado en 
DNSBL, ej: http://www.spamhaus.org/

4- Si tienes usuarios que revisan su email, no trates de abrir el puerto 25, 
sino, utiliza el smtp-ssl, pop3-ssl ó imap-ssl, de esa forma si solamente 
tienes un solo servidor puedes aplicar desde el firewall diferentes políticas 
para los diferentes servicios.

Saludos.


--- El jue, 7/1/10, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió:

 De: Camaleón noela...@gmail.com
 Asunto: Re: en otra de ataque a mi servidor de correo
 A: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org
 Fecha: jueves, 1 de julio de 2010, 01:23 am
 El Wed, 30 Jun 2010 15:50:24 -0600,
 troxlinux escribió:
 
  El día 30 de junio de 2010 15:37, Camaleón
 escribió:
 
  Eso no puede ser :-/
 
  Supongo que estás con Postfix. Analiza el
 /var/log/mail y mira a ver
  qué es lo que está pasando realmente (origen y
 destino de esos
  mensajes, así como las direcciones IP) para
 descartar que tengas un
  relay abierto.
 
  Supongo que son rebotes, es decir, que alguien ha
 enviado correos con
  una dirección en el campo From: apuntando a tu
 dominio y un
  Reply-To: apuntando a un segundo dominio (o
 viceversa) y os estéis
  devolviendo mutuamente los correos.
  
  pues todos se conectar el port 25 de mi servidor y el
 localhost
 
 Claro, como debe ser, pero ese no es el problema...
  
  mira te muestro la cabecera de unos de mis correos
 atrapados por
  amavisd-new
  
  X-Spam-Flag: YES
 (...)
  From: Tanner Neidhardt qbxunshakea...@grupomunkel.com
 
  To: Jap345678 jap345...@aol.com
 
 El problema es qué hace tu servidor de correo atendiendo
 esas peticiones, 
 es decir, ninguno de tus dominios aparece como
 remitente/receptor. Si es 
 así, tienes un open relay, revisa la configuración del
 servidor. Ya 
 sabes que las cabeceras se pueden falsificar.
 
 Y revisa los registros para analizar si las peticiones son
 válidas o se 
 te están colando por algún lado. Esto lo podrás ver
 desde el registro del 
 servidor, no en las cabeceras de los correos y tienes que
 analizarlo con 
 lupa.
 
  Pero para saber cómo responder antes tienes que
 saber cuál es el origen
  del problema.
 
 
  y mira las conexiones a mi puerto 25 algunas en
 time_wait o otras
  activas
  
  tcp        0      0
 165.98.97.38:25     
    84.124.180.22:2819   
  TIME_WAIT 
 
 (...)
 
 Pero eso es normal. Tienes el puerto 25 abierto en el
 router y el 
 servidor respondiendo en ese puerto. Lo que no es normal es
 que tu 
 servidor de correo atienda esas peticiones.
 
 Si te molestan mucho (puede ser una ráfaga de spam
 pasajera), puedes usar 
 Postfix para bloquear/rechazar las peticiones que vienen
 desde 
 direcciones IP que están en las listas negras mediante 
 smtpd_recipient_restrictions = ... reject_rhsbl_recipient
 o 
 smtpd_sender_restrictions = ... reject_rhsbl_sender.
 Consulta el manual 
 de Postfix para ver cómo se configuran estos valores.
 
 Saludos,
 
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Re: dominio en dos ips publicas

2010-07-06 Thread Carlos Lopez
--- El jue, 7/1/10, jmramirez jmrami...@cosmantenimiento.com escribió:
     Tengo este escenario:
 
 Tengo 2 router's con ip's publicas.
 
 dominioA.com  Router 1
 dominioB.com  Router 2
 
     Me gustaria que cuando se caiga el route
 1 el dominioA.com se publique por el router 2 ( supongo que
 en otro puerto, lo desconozco) y viceversa.
 
     Todo esto sera para el correo y para las
 webs. La información que he visto por la red es esta:
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gateway_Load_Balancing_Protocol
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Address_Redundancy_Protocol
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Load_balancing_%28computing%29
 http://www.zytrax.com/books/dns/ch9/rr.html


Debes tener listo una configuración para que en tu router mantenga registros de 
las conexiones activas (ConnectionTrack) en caso de que se caiga el primer 
enlace y el router asigne a la segunda puerta de enlace, el firewall mantenga 
registros de toda la conexion anterior, ve este enlace (en Ingles) 
http://lartc.org/howto/lartc.rpdb.multiple-links.html



 
     Para el correo he visto esto:
 
 Dominio solucion.com
 Registros MX
 mail.solucion.com 10 IP del Local A.
 mailcorreo.solucion.com 20 IP del Local B.
 
     Entiendo que lo mismo me funcionaria
 para la web, pero estoy bastante perdido. Alguien hizo algo
 parecido, podéis pasarme algún buen link, a ser posible en
 castellano.
 

Para el caso de los emails puedes usar:

 MX 10 mail.midominio.com. (Conexion mas rapida)
 MX 20 mail2.midominio.com.

mail.midominio.com.  IN A IP1 
mail2.midominio.com. IN A IP2


En el servidor web solamente haces esto:

www.midominio.com. 10 IN A  IP1 (para la conexion mas rápida)
   10 IN A  IP2

de esa forma cuando hagas un nslookup en Win2 o dig en Linux te apareceran las 
IPs en la secuencia que la configurastes en el servidor DNS. El detalle estará 
en que hay navegadores con problemas que solamente utilizan la primera IP y no 
la segunda, ej (IEXplorer :( )

Saludos.





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Re: martian sources iptables

2010-07-06 Thread Carlos Lopez
Hola,

Esto sucede cuando tu router no puede enrutar los paquetes de origen --- 
destino, aun que todo este bien, un posible problema puede estar si está un 
router antes que el tuyo o si este router tiene la misma ip de uno de tus 
gateway eso causa un loop en tu router y te termina dando ese error o puedes 
leer también otras causas aca http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martian_packet

Saludos.



--- El jue, 7/1/10, cosme co...@gecgr.co.cu escribió:

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Asunto: martian sources iptables
A: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org
Fecha: jueves, 1 de julio de 2010, 07:32 pm



 
 


Hola
He puesto un iptables en Debian lenny y cuando lo 
reinicio me aparece un sin número de mensajes con martian sources.
Qué significan 
Jul 1 19:00:47 ns1 kernel: [ 5631.909505] martian source 192.168.13.83 from 
192.168.13.14, on dev eth0
Jul 1 19:00:47 ns1 kernel: [ 5631.909505] ll header: 
ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:00:30:4f:14:84:d7:08:06
Jul 1 19:00:56 ns1 kernel: [ 5640.928119] martian source 192.168.13.83 from 
192.168.13.14, on dev eth0
Jul 1 19:00:56 ns1 kernel: [ 5640.928119] ll header: 
ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:00:30:4f:14:84:d7:08:06
Jul 1 19:01:08 ns1 kernel: [ 5652.534306] martian source 192.168.13.255 from 
192.168.13.14, on dev eth0
Jul 1 19:01:08 ns1 kernel: [ 5652.534306] ll header: 
ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:00:30:4f:14:84:d7:08:00
Jul 1 19:01:10 ns1 kernel: [ 5654.445168] martian source 192.168.13.83 from 
192.168.13.14, on dev eth0
Jul 1 19:01:10 ns1 kernel: [ 5654.445168] ll header: 
ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:00:30:4f:14:84:d7:08:06
Jul 1 19:01:13 ns1 kernel: [ 5657.534790] martian source 192.168.13.83 from 
192.168.13.14, on dev eth0
Jul 1 19:01:13 ns1 kernel: [ 5657.534790] ll header: 
ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:00:30:4f:14:84:d7:08:06
Jul 1 19:01:18 ns1 kernel: [ 5662.542337] martian source 192.168.13.255 from 
192.168.13.14, on dev eth0
Jul 1 19:01:18 ns1 kernel: [ 5662.542337] ll header: 
ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:00:30:4f:14:84:d7:08:00
Jul 1 19:01:19 ns1 kernel: [ 5663.675305] martian source 192.168.13.83 from 
192.168.13.14, on dev eth0
Jul 1 19:01:19 ns1 kernel: [ 5663.675305] ll header: 
ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:00:30:4f:14:84:d7:08:06
Jul 1 19:01:31 ns1 kernel: [ 5675.743210] martian source 192.168.13.83 from 
192.168.13.14, on dev eth0
Jul 1 19:01:31 ns1 kernel: [ 5675.743210] ll header: 
ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:00:30:4f:14:84:d7:08:06
Jul 1 19:01:34 ns1 kernel: [ 5678.753428] martian source 192.168.13.83 from 
192.168.13.14, on dev eth0
Jul 1 19:01:34 ns1 kernel: [ 5678.753428] ll header: 
ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:00:30:4f:14:84:d7:08:06
Jul 1 19:01:35 ns1 kernel: [ 5679.422814] martian source 192.168.99.255 from 
192.168.99.2, on dev eth1
Jul 1 19:01:35 ns1 kernel: [ 5679.422814] ll header: 
ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:00:0c:29:0e:5f:cc:08:00
 


  

Re: Controles de Acceso y Sistemas de Seguridad - Biometricos

2010-07-06 Thread Carlos Lopez
Oye,

Eso que anuncias es GRATIS, por que este foro es solamente para compartir ideas 
y dar todo gratis (CONOCIMIENTOS Y EXPERIENCIAS), que sea Opensource también, 
lógico, basado en Linux mayormente.


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Asunto: Controles de Acceso y Sistemas de Seguridad - Biometricos
A: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org
Fecha: domingo, 4 de julio de 2010, 12:04 pm



 


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Mike Genkin invites you to use Boxbe

2010-07-06 Thread Mike Genkin


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Re: Αναφορά σφα λμάτων.

2010-07-06 Thread Serafeim Zanikolas
Σύντομη απάντηση: file all bugs in the Debian bts.

On Tue, Jul 06, 2010 at 03:37:55PM +, Πρεκατές Αλέξανδρος wrote [edited]:
 Υποθέτω δεν έχει καμιά υποχρέωση ο δημιουργός να κοιτάζει bugs από τις
 διανομές.

Όντως δεν έχει.

 Αρα κατα πόσο είναι έυλογο να προτρέπεται ένας χρήστης του debian να στέλνει
 το σφάλμα και upstream;

Το να στείλει κανείς το σφάλμα κ στο Debian κ upstream είναι waste of
community resources.

Αν είναι feature request (wishlist), μπορείς να το στείλεις κατ'ευθείαν
upstream.

Οτιδήποτε άλλο μπορεί να είναι είτε bug του upstream ή λόγω Debian-specific
αλλαγών (packaging/patches/etc). Αν δεν ξέρεις ποιο από τα δύο, υπέβαλε το bug
στο debian.

Για περισσότερα: /usr/share/doc/debian/bug-reporting.txt

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servidor de email

2010-07-06 Thread Márcio Pedroso
para montar um servidor de email preciso ter um dominio na maquina
registrado, correto?

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Re: servidor de email

2010-07-06 Thread Molinero
Não exatamente.
Mas se não quer ser tachado como spammer e cair em blacklists na
internet e ser bloqueado por vários domínios, te aconselho a usar um
domínio válido.

Att.,



Márcio Pedroso wrote:
 para montar um servidor de email preciso ter um dominio na maquina
 registrado, correto?

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Re: servidor de email

2010-07-06 Thread Leonardo Carneiro - Veltrac
Concordo com o Molinero. Se vc for montar um servidor para testar e 
talz, definitivamente não é necessário um domínio.



On 07/06/2010 12:55 PM, Molinero wrote:

Não exatamente.
Mas se não quer ser tachado como spammer e cair em blacklists na
internet e ser bloqueado por vários domínios, te aconselho a usar um
domínio válido.

Att.,



Márcio Pedroso wrote:
   

para montar um servidor de email preciso ter um dominio na maquina
registrado, correto?

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Re: servidor de email

2010-07-06 Thread China
Em 6 de julho de 2010 12:07, Márcio Pedroso
sarrafocapoe...@gmail.com escreveu:
 para montar um servidor de email preciso ter um dominio na maquina
 registrado, correto?

Não. Você não precisa ter um domínio registrado. O problema é que a
prática de SPAM ao longo dos anos levou a adoção de soluções que
privilegiam os domínios registrados, e um dos critérios de checagem é
justamente este, de formas que se você enviar um e-mail diretamente de
seu servidor sem registro você pode ser lançado em blacklists que
alimentam bancos de dados utilizados por filtros antispam, e aí você
não conseguira mais enviar mensagens.

Você pode contratar um servidor smarthost para que você mande e-mails
de seu servidor para este smarthost, e dele sair para os
destinatários. Você tem opções gratuitas, como o Gmail, ou pagas, em
qualquer provedor de esquina. Para configurar o Gmail, existem
trocentos tutoriais na rede.

Porém, se você quiser entrar nesse mercado como profissional, a melhor
pedida é registrar um domínio.

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SAMBA: Mais de um script logon

2010-07-06 Thread André
Pessoal,

Tenho aqui um server SAMBA em que o script logon está amarrado pelo GRUPO
padrão do usuário, no entanto surgiu a necessidade de ALÉM de carregar o
script logon do grupo do usuário, que carregasse também um OUTRO script
logon personalizado (amarrado pelo login do usuário), alguem sabe se isso é
possível no SAMBA? ou tem alguma idéia de resolver isso? (Já vi em alguns
tutoriais explicando OU pelo Usuário ou pelo GRUPO, mas nada dos dois
juntos).

Abraços,

André Menezes


Re: SAMBA: Mais de um script logon

2010-07-06 Thread Tadeu Cruz
Acho que esta procurando por isso:

http://www.stress-free.co.nz/customised_netlogon_scripts_for_samba

Em 6 de julho de 2010 15:16, André andre...@gmail.com escreveu:
 Pessoal,

 Tenho aqui um server SAMBA em que o script logon está amarrado pelo GRUPO
 padrão do usuário, no entanto surgiu a necessidade de ALÉM de carregar o
 script logon do grupo do usuário, que carregasse também um OUTRO script
 logon personalizado (amarrado pelo login do usuário), alguem sabe se isso é
 possível no SAMBA? ou tem alguma idéia de resolver isso? (Já vi em alguns
 tutoriais explicando OU pelo Usuário ou pelo GRUPO, mas nada dos dois
 juntos).

 Abraços,

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Problemas com o xorg.conf

2010-07-06 Thread Thiago Finardi
Caros Debianos,

Estou com um problema em meu notebook. Eu compilei o modulo da minha placa
de vídeo G210m para a
versão do kernel que estou usando, ate ai tudo tranquilo. Ao executar o
nvidia-xconfig ele cria o arquivo com
a configuração padrão, mas fica funcionando somente a saída vga do notebook
com o modulo rodando tranquilo.
Mas na tela do notebook não aparece nada. Vi que se eu gerasse um EDID do
display e utilizasse ele no xorg
tudo funcionaria, pois bem, realmente o LCD funciona beleza, so que agora o
que nao funciona e a saida VGA.
Como utilizo muito a saída VGA estou tentando deixar os dois funcionando.
Ele não reconhece os dois monitores, ou é um ou o outro. Vou colocar as duas
configurações da sessão screen
do xorg, gostaria da ajuda de vocês para conseguir resolver este
probleminha.*


Xorg funcionando somente o LCD do notebook*

Section Screen
Identifier Default Screen
Device Configured Video Device
MonitorConfigured Monitor
Option ConnectedMonitor DFP-0
Option CustomEDID DFP-0:/etc/X11/cw13fb.bin
SubSection Display
Modes  nvidia-auto-select
EndSubSection
EndSection


*Xorg funcionando somente a saída VGA *

Section Screen
Identifier Screen0
Device Device0
MonitorMonitor0
DefaultDepth24
SubSection Display
Depth   24
EndSubSection
EndSection



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Re: Problemas com o xorg.conf

2010-07-06 Thread Moisés Lima
  Thiago, segue abaixo a configuração que deves colocar no
/etc/X11/xorg.conf:



# nvidia-xconfig: X configuration file generated by nvidia-xconfig
# nvidia-xconfig:  version 1.0  (bui...@ninsei)  Fri Sep  5 22:23:08 UTC
2008


Section ServerLayout
Identifier Layout0
Screen  0  Screen0
InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard
InputDeviceMouse0 CorePointer
EndSection

Section Files
RgbPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb
EndSection

Section Module
Load   dbe
Load   extmod
Load   type1
Load   freetype
Load   glx
EndSection

Section InputDevice

# generated from default
Identifier Mouse0
Driver mouse
Option Protocol auto
Option Device /dev/psaux
Option Emulate3Buttons true
Option ZAxisMapping 4 5
EndSection

Section InputDevice

# generated from default
Identifier Keyboard0
Driver kbd
Option XkbRulesxorg
Option XkbModelabnt2
Option XkbLayoutbr
Option XkbVariantabnt2
EndSection

Section Monitor
Identifier Monitor0
VendorName Unknown
ModelName  Unknown
HorizSync   30.0 - 110.0
VertRefresh 50.0 - 150.0
Option DPMS
EndSection

Section Device
Identifier Device0
Driver nvidia
VendorName NVIDIA Corporation
EndSection

Section Screen
Identifier Screen0
Device Device0
MonitorMonitor0
DefaultDepth24
SubSection Display
Depth   24
EndSubSection
EndSection

3

Em 7 de julho de 2010 00:04, Thiago Finardi tfina...@gmail.com escreveu:

 Caros Debianos,

 Estou com um problema em meu notebook. Eu compilei o modulo da minha placa
 de vídeo G210m para a
 versão do kernel que estou usando, ate ai tudo tranquilo. Ao executar o
 nvidia-xconfig ele cria o arquivo com
 a configuração padrão, mas fica funcionando somente a saída vga do notebook
 com o modulo rodando tranquilo.
 Mas na tela do notebook não aparece nada. Vi que se eu gerasse um EDID do
 display e utilizasse ele no xorg
 tudo funcionaria, pois bem, realmente o LCD funciona beleza, so que agora o
 que nao funciona e a saida VGA.
 Como utilizo muito a saída VGA estou tentando deixar os dois funcionando.
 Ele não reconhece os dois monitores, ou é um ou o outro. Vou colocar as
 duas configurações da sessão screen
 do xorg, gostaria da ajuda de vocês para conseguir resolver este
 probleminha.*


 Xorg funcionando somente o LCD do notebook*

 Section Screen
 Identifier Default Screen
 Device Configured Video Device
 MonitorConfigured Monitor
 Option ConnectedMonitor DFP-0
 Option CustomEDID DFP-0:/etc/X11/cw13fb.bin
 SubSection Display
 Modes  nvidia-auto-select
 EndSubSection
 EndSection


 *Xorg funcionando somente a saída VGA *

 Section Screen
 Identifier Screen0
 Device Device0
 MonitorMonitor0
 DefaultDepth24
 SubSection Display
 Depth   24
 EndSubSection
 EndSection



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Dovecot Maildir

2010-07-06 Thread Gustavo Goulart
 Olá lista,

 Tive um problema aqui para configurar o dovecot com mysql mais consegui 
resolver. Agora quando logo so vejo minha pasta caixa de entrada, não vejo mais 
as subpastas do Maildir, Spam, Sent, Trash ... 
 É alguma configuração do dovecot, alguem pode dar uma ajuda ai ?


 Obrigado.
##
# Gustavo V. Goulart #
# Rio de Janeiro - RJ#
# Linux Debian Etch  #
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Re: How do I back up a running system?

2010-07-06 Thread Aniruddha
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 2:43 PM, Robert S
robert.spam.me.sensel...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have debian running on a headless system.  I'd like to back the entire
 system up.  Its difficult with a bootable disk without a monitor (so
 Clonezilla etc are out).  I've tried mondoarchive but it usually bails out
 before it completes the backup.

 Are there any suggestions?  A simple script would be nice.


What do you want to backup? How much time do you have to restore the
backup? Is it a server that needs to be up and running within minutes?
Or do you have a few hours to restore the server? I usually use a
combination of  rsnapshot, mysqldump and an offsite backup program
such as CrashPlan.


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Re: advice on amd64

2010-07-06 Thread Mark Allums

On 7/5/2010 5:40 PM, Jim McCloskey wrote:


I recently acquired a new Dell Studio 15 laptop and mean to install
Debian (squeeze) on it.


 The machine has a 1.6GHz

Intel Quad Core processor and 6GB of RAM. The GPU is an ATI Mobility
Radeon (HD 5470) with 1GB of onboard memory.



Do you not mean a 2.6 GHz CPU (rather than 1.6)?

I would go with amd64.  32-bit Flash also runs on amd64, and 
flashplayer-mozilla from Debian-multimedia (rather than 
flashplugin-nonfree) installs everything you need.  And though it seems 
to imply that it exists for iceweasel/firefox (or possibly epiphany) it 
works well with Chrome, too.





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Re: advice on amd64

2010-07-06 Thread Alan Chandler

On 05/07/10 23:40, Jim McCloskey wrote:


I recently acquired a new Dell Studio 15 laptop and mean to install
Debian (squeeze) on it. I'm trying to decide whether to do a 64-bit
install (amd64) or a 32-bit install (i386). My understanding is that
the amd64 port is now very complete, and that the principal difficulty
would probably be with flashplayer (since Adobe withdrew the 64-bit
version of flashplayer 10 for linux).

There seem to be various workarounds for this issue, but I was
wondering if the performance gain that one might expect from the
64-bit architecture over the 32-bit architecture would be worth the
extra trouble entailed by these workarounds. The machine has a 1.6GHz
Intel Quad Core processor and 6GB of RAM. The GPU is an ATI Mobility
Radeon (HD 5470) with 1GB of onboard memory.



I have a (now) ageing Intel Core2 Duo machine as my Desktop which I 
originally installed the 64 bit version of Debian. I found these little 
work arounds annoying and just occasionally they didn't work.


I had the opportunity after a disk upgrade to do a complete re-install 
and I chose to switch back to the 32 bit version.


I haven't noticed any performance degradation and I just don't get any 
hassel from issues with flash etc.


I only (sic) have 2GB memory - but again to be honest, I run mysql, 
postgres and a web server in the background (as well as the standard 
daemons such sshd and inetd) and I rarely even get to swap. I get the 
impression (but I haven't done any careful analysis) that the 32 bit 
stuff uses slightly less memory resources.


My main (non surfing the net) activity is web development although I 
have done a bit of video editing


The only downside I have had is that I recently was trying to install a 
64 bit version of Debian on a server I have and accidently installed the 
32 bit version from the install SD card I had made and had forgotten to 
label as 32 bit.




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Re: advice on amd64

2010-07-06 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Mark put forth on 7/5/2010 11:51 PM:

 I admire the OP's class in his response.  Thought that comment about youtube
 and pr0n was completely unnecessary and unsolicited when I read it.

Dry humor doesn't include emoticons.

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Re: strange freezes or lock ups on memory intensive tasks

2010-07-06 Thread Stan Hoeppner
H.S. put forth on 7/6/2010 12:42 AM:
 
 This is on an AMD 64 bit processor (AMD Phenom(tm) II X2 555 Processor)
 with Debian Unstable  (32 bit kernel) installed. I have noticed that
 when I am running a RAM intensive task, usually when browsing large
 photo files in geeqie and sometimes when starting firefox or chromium,
 the PC hangs or locks up or freezes. The only solution is to reboot the
 computer.

What motherboard?  Integrated video/GPU or add in card?  Have you tried a
different power supply yet?

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Re: Debian/kernel's policy for fatal errors, etc.

2010-07-06 Thread Alan Chandler

On 05/07/10 22:22, Merciadri Luca wrote:

Hi,

When a computer stays turned on for a long amount of time, some problems
could arise. I have the following questions:

1. What habitually makes a computer 'running Linux) go down (except
electric problems)?
2. What are Debian/kernel's adaptations to prevent such problems from
arising?

Thanks.




I have had a Debian based server at home running 24/7 for about 7 or 8 
years.  Living near London, we seem to have a reasonably stable 
electricity supply (I don't do anything special) and I have had uptimes 
of nearly a year, with the only downtime in the year being when my wife 
made me turn it off as we went on holiday.


Of course upgrades to the kernel have required bringing it down, and 
more recently I have had several updgrades of hardware to increase disk 
space and increase performance with a faster processes so I could build 
in mythtv.


From November 2009 to 10 days ago I went through a phase of using a 
Sheeva plug computer as the server (in order to use less electricity), 
but I am sad to say its (hardware) reliability wasn't good and I have 
now abandoned that.  Putting the old server back it has now been running 
24/7 for the last 10 days.


It runs exim and apache and mythtv as the three key applications 
supported by both mysql and postgres, but it is also a git server, dns 
server (along with dhcp and tftp - using dnsmasq), time server, 
firewall/router/internet gateway and automatically supports most of the 
backups via cron (when it is master of the process) or via rsyncd (when 
it is the slave).  I have never seen a memory leak or anything else that 
has required attention.



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Re: Virus or what?

2010-07-06 Thread Dirk Neumann
On Mon, 5 Jul 2010 23:19:57 +
lejkt lejkt jtam...@hotmail.com wrote:

 

 now with more than 20 GB on the partition  mounted on /
 
 I made the same installation, but after 2 days of use, i expected the same 
 problem, partition mounted on / become full and /etc/init.d/mysql: ERROR: The 
 partition with /var/lib/mysql is too full! failed!

What says

$ du -sh /var/log

 
 
 please help me solve this problem.

It seems like a problem for debian-u...@lists.debian.org.

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Restarting network

2010-07-06 Thread Johann Spies
Apparently '/etc/init.d/networking restart' is depricated.  It is not
doing the job any more on squeeze. 

'/etc/init.d/ifplugd restart' ignores virtual interfaces defined in
/etc/network/interfaces.

So how do I get my virtual interfaces active after a reboot or restart of the
network without having to do 'ifup eth0:0' by hand?

Regards
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Re: audio CDs and cdrdao vs. cdparanoia

2010-07-06 Thread Mark Allums

On 7/5/2010 3:43 PM, Urs Thuermann wrote:

Now my question is where these [CD-rip] differences come from and which results
are the correct (better) ones.



Audio CDs live in a world where there is no guarantee that any two 
passes across a sector will ever give the same result.  For one thing, 
there is no error correction.  Give up the idea of getting a correct, or 
perfect, rip; it's theoretically impossible.


In fact, that's why cdparanoia exists.  In the days of CD-ROM drives, 
the drives were not very good at ripping audio discs, and cdparanoia 
compensated for the problems.  It was also unbelievably slow.  Today, 
DVD drives have a much better disc transport, etc., and a lot of 
software is smarter than it used to be, so ripping is only a real 
problem with copy-protected CDs, and very damaged discs.




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Re: Restarting network

2010-07-06 Thread CaT
On Tue, Jul 06, 2010 at 09:15:35AM +0200, Johann Spies wrote:
 Apparently '/etc/init.d/networking restart' is depricated.  It is not
 doing the job any more on squeeze. 
 
 '/etc/init.d/ifplugd restart' ignores virtual interfaces defined in
 /etc/network/interfaces.
 
 So how do I get my virtual interfaces active after a reboot or restart of the
 network without having to do 'ifup eth0:0' by hand?

Why not use 'auto interface' before each interface definition?

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Re: audio CDs and cdrdao vs. cdparanoia

2010-07-06 Thread Mark Allums

On 7/5/2010 3:43 PM, Urs Thuermann wrote:

Now my question is where these [CD-rip] differences come from and
which results are the correct (better) ones.



Here is a nice web site about CDs.  It is about CD-Rs, but it has a lot 
of general info that anyone can benefit from, including about audio CDs. 
 It is a good starting point.


http://www.cdrfaq.org/


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Re: audio CDs and cdrdao vs. cdparanoia

2010-07-06 Thread Mark Allums

On 7/5/2010 3:43 PM, Urs Thuermann wrote:

Now my question is where these [CD-rip] differences come from and
which results are the correct (better) ones.



Audio CDs live in a world where there is no guarantee that any two
passes across a sector will ever give the same result. For one thing,
there is no error correction. Give up the idea of getting a correct, or
perfect, rip; it's theoretically impossible.



Oh, I forgot.  One more thing (and sorry to keep flooding the list 
replying to myself):  There is an analog output and a digital output, 
and they are not equal.  Your CD-drive or DVD-drive will treat them 
differently, and that conceivably may make a difference for you.


I'm sorry, I cannot offer advice about what, if anything, to do with the 
analog output, but since you are probably only interested in the digital 
output, anyway, it's just as well.



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Re: Restarting network

2010-07-06 Thread Johann Spies
On Tue, Jul 06, 2010 at 05:43:18PM +1000, CaT wrote:
 On Tue, Jul 06, 2010 at 09:15:35AM +0200, Johann Spies wrote:
  Apparently '/etc/init.d/networking restart' is depricated.  It is not
  doing the job any more on squeeze. 
  
  '/etc/init.d/ifplugd restart' ignores virtual interfaces defined in
  /etc/network/interfaces.
  
  So how do I get my virtual interfaces active after a reboot or restart of 
  the
  network without having to do 'ifup eth0:0' by hand?
 
 Why not use 'auto interface' before each interface definition?

I removed it because of this documentation from the Debian Reference Manual:
=
Here is how to use the ifplugd package for the internal Ethernet port,
e.g. eth0.

   1. Remove stanza in /etc/network/interfaces: auto eth0 or allow-hotplug 
eth0.
   2. Keep stanza in /etc/network/interfaces: iface eth0 inet … and 
mapping ….
   3. Install the ifplugd package.
   4. Run sudo dpkg-reconfigure ifplugd.
   5. Put eth0 as the static interfaces to be watched by ifplugd.
===

I did now put the 'auto eth0:0' back and did reboot the system.  This
time eth0:0 came up.

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2010-07-06 Thread Mike Genkin


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Re: Re: Network crashes under heavy load

2010-07-06 Thread Davide Mirtillo
On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 11:42 PM, Alexander Samad a...@samad.com.au wrote:
 [snip]

 An Intel NIC would usually be my first choice but since this board has
 no PCIe slots I'm hesitant to use a PCI NIC if it's going to limit
 network bandwidth.

 have you tried getting the realtek driver and compiling it, on some of
 my earlier boards, the nic was loaded by an in line kernel module
 but it didn't work properly I had to down load the realtek and compile it.

I was experiencing weird issues with my NIC aswell, check if you have
the r8169 kernel module loaded, if so, that might be the cause of your
crashes.

Get the proper drivers for your NIC on the realtek website, compile
them against your kernel, run depmod, blacklist the old module, update
initramfs and you shouldn't have any more trouble.

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Re: text to html

2010-07-06 Thread Richard Hector
On Sat, 2010-07-03 at 11:07 +0200, Jozsi Avadkan wrote:
 input:
 http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=MqPXZwc3
 
 output:
 http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=8QCkp4yv

Just for fun:
perl -ne 'm{^(([^/]*).*/([^/]*).html)}; exit unless defined($2); if ($d ne 
$2){defined($d)  print br\n; $d = $2; print brfont 
size=4$d/fontbr\n;} print qq{a href=$1$3/a | \n};'  input  output

Some tweaks required depending on whether you do or don't want trailing
|'s and/or trailing spaces, and I agree there are 2 entries in your
sample output that don't match :-)

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Re: audio CDs and cdrdao vs. cdparanoia

2010-07-06 Thread Mirko Parthey
On Mon, Jul 05, 2010 at 10:43:44PM +0200, Urs Thuermann wrote:
 For each CD I run
 
 cdrdao read-cd --datafile data.cdr --device /dev/sg0 toc
 and
 cdparanoia -d /dev/sg0 -B
 
 where /dev/sg0 refers to an Plextor Ultraplex 40max SCSI CDROM drive.
 
 [...]

 I can run cdrdao and cdparanoia
 repeatedly, say 10 times, and I get deterministic results, i.e. all
 runs of cdrdao give the same result and all runs of cdparanoia give
 the same result but the results of cdrdao and cdparanoia differ.
 
 Now my question is where these differences come from and which results
 are the correct (better) ones.

With a suitable CDROM drive such as yours and CDs in reasonably good
condition, there should be no need for cdparanoia's data correction
feature.  In fact, I found that it can sometimes do more harm than
good, so I recommend disabling it (-Z), if only for testing purposes.

You could compare your results to Exact Audio Copy (Windows, free for
non-commercial use), which reportedly also runs on WINE.

Another option would bei morituri, a CD ripper for Linux modelled after
Exact Audio Copy.

Regards,
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Re: The empty primary partition, where should it be

2010-07-06 Thread Richard Hector
On Tue, 2010-06-29 at 22:08 +, T o n g wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Do you have empty primary partitions? Have you noticed where they are?
 
 When leaving an empty primary partition, I'm thinking:
 
 /dev/hda1 Primary
 /dev/hda2 Primary
 /dev/hda3 Empty
 /dev/hda4 Extended
 /dev/hda5 Logical
 
 but what I found most existing partitions look like this:
 
 /dev/hda1 Primary
 /dev/hda2 Primary
 /dev/hda3 Extended
 /dev/hda4 Empty
 /dev/hda5 Logical

I never create that many partitions these days :-)

I might create one for /boot, and one for swap, but other than that
everything goes in LVM on the one partition. So max 3 (unless I have
more than one drive, of course). And they're all Primary.

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Ipsec problems

2010-07-06 Thread Pier
Hi.
I'm having some problems with ipsec.
The connections are running, but when the line goes down the vpn is not coming 
back again.
If i see the logs, i see these errors:

2010-07-06 13:23:22: ERROR: fatal INVALID-SPI notify messsage, phase1 should be 
deleted.


If i force a restart of the setkey and racoon services, then the vpns are 
coming back.
This is the conf:

remote AAA.AAA.AAA.AAA
{
exchange_mode main;
verify_cert on;
my_identifier address;
lifetime time 96 hour ;
dpd_delay 0;
proposal {
encryption_algorithm 3des;
hash_algorithm sha1;
authentication_method pre_shared_key;
dh_group 2;
}

}

sainfo address 192.168.1.0/24 any address 10.75.0.0/16 any
{
pfs_group 2;
lifetime time 8 hour ;
encryption_algorithm 3des ;
authentication_algorithm hmac_md5 ;
compression_algorithm deflate ;
}

sainfo address AAA.AAA.AAA.AAA/32 any address 10.75.0.0/16 any
{
pfs_group 2;
lifetime time 8 hour ;
encryption_algorithm 3des ;
authentication_algorithm hmac_md5 ;
compression_algorithm deflate ;
}

sainfo address BBB.BBB.BBB.BBB/32 any address AAA.AAA.AAA.AAA/32 any
{
pfs_group 2;
lifetime time 8 hour ;
encryption_algorithm 3des ;
authentication_algorithm hmac_md5 ;
compression_algorithm deflate ;
}

sainfo address 192.168.1.0/24 any address AAA.AAA.AAA.AAA/32 any
{
pfs_group 2;
lifetime time 8 hour ;
encryption_algorithm 3des ;
authentication_algorithm hmac_md5 ;
compression_algorithm deflate ;
}


10.75.0.0/16 is the remote network. 
192.168.1.0/24 is our net.
AAA.AAA.AAA.AAA is their remote public IP.
BBB.BBB.BBB.BBB is our public IP

Thanks





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Re: Deterring mail relay attempts

2010-07-06 Thread Richard Hector
On Thu, 2010-07-01 at 21:08 +0100, Alan Chandler wrote:

 I would like to cause as much disruption to these guys as possible.

I'd happily drop packets to save bandwidth, and load on my MTA, but I'd
think twice about that reason.

My understanding is that most spam comes from compromised home machines
these days - so the person getting disrupted is some poor sucker whose
machine is compromised, not the actual offender.

Dropping packets may save _them_ bandwidth as well, so as I say, I'd
happily do it :-)

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Re: strange freezes or lock ups on memory intensive tasks

2010-07-06 Thread H.S.
On 06/07/10 02:47 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
 
 What motherboard?  Integrated video/GPU or add in card?  Have you tried a
 different power supply yet?
 

Motherboard: Gigabyte MA790GPT-UD3H. Chipset: AMD 790GX/SB750
Onboard graphics: ATI Radeon HD 3300 Graphics
Audio chipset: Realtek ALC889A
LAN: Gigabit, Realtek 8111C

Presently I am using onboard graphics, but till a few weeks ago I was
using a PCIe Nvidia graphics card and the computer was still freezing
the same way.




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Re: Scim and iceweasel

2010-07-06 Thread H.S.
On 05/07/10 07:51 AM, Sridhar M.A. wrote:
 
 My question, how can I make iceweasel, OO and other packages like
 inkscape to use scim as the default input method?

This is on Debian Testing, Intel 32 bit processor. I can use scim on my
KDE desktop without any problems ... almost. The only hiccup is that its
applet does not start when I log in. This gives an option of switching
to my last changed keyboard using CTRL+SPC only (since I cannot click on
an applet to select a different layout). I have to kill its gtk instance
which forces some auto restart in scim and the kde applet appears.

Example, right now I have the following processes. I do not have the
scim applet, but I can switch to the alternate layout using CTRL+SPC.
$ ps uax | grep scim
hs   2214  0.0  0.1   9964  1772 ?Ss   Jul01   0:02
/usr/lib/scim-1.0/scim-launcher -d -c simple -e all -f socket --no-stay
hs   2218  0.0  0.0   6208   404 ?Ss   Jul01   0:00
/usr/lib/scim-1.0/scim-helper-manager
hs   2219  0.0  0.4  28844  5976 ?Ssl  Jul01   1:15
/usr/lib/scim-1.0/scim-panel-gtk --display :0.0 -c socket -d --no-stay
hs   2221  0.0  0.0   9180   540 ?Ss   Jul01   0:00
/usr/lib/scim-1.0/scim-launcher -d -c socket -e socket -f x11
hs  17527  0.0  0.0   3860   776 pts/6S+   10:30   0:00 grep scim

Terminating gtk instance prompts the scim to give me its applet in KDE's
panel:
$ kill -TERM 2219

Now I can select whichever layout I want from the applet.


Now, all that is well and good, but I am no sure why gtk related
instance starts. So I poked around /etc files and found this:
$ cat /etc/scim/global
/SupportedUnicodeLocales = en_US.UTF-8
/DefaultPanelProgram = scim-panel-gtk
/DefaultConfigModule = simple
/DefaultSocketFrontEndAddress = local:/tmp/scim-socket-frontend
/DefaultSocketIMEngineAddress = local:/tmp/scim-socket-frontend
/DefaultSocketConfigAddress = local:/tmp/scim-socket-frontend
/DefaultPanelSocketAddress = local:/tmp/scim-panel-socket
/DefaultHelperManagerSocketAddress = local:/tmp/scim-helper-manager-socket
/DefaultSocketTimeout = 5000


Perhaps the default panel program is the responsible for it. I wonder
how to make it so that gtk related scim starts in Gnome but kde related
in KDE only.


Another thing that might matter is the following file:
$ cat ~/.scim/global
/DefaultKeyboardLayout = kconfig
/DisabledIMEngineFactories = IMEngine-M17N-am-sera,  and so on: all
the disabled layout in my scim applet
/SupportedUnicodeLocales = en_CA.utf8,en_US.UTF-8,fr_FR.UTF-8



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Re: Deterring mail relay attempts

2010-07-06 Thread John Hasler
Richard Hector writes:
 My understanding is that most spam comes from compromised home
 machines these days - so the person getting disrupted is some poor
 sucker whose machine is compromised, not the actual offender.

The machine is compromised because the sucker failed to secure it.
While the botnet operator is the actual criminal the owner of the
compromised machine is still negligent.
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Re: strange freezes or lock ups on memory intensive tasks

2010-07-06 Thread briand
On Tue, 06 Jul 2010 09:15:03 -0400
H.S. hs.sa...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 06/07/10 02:47 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
  
  What motherboard?  Integrated video/GPU or add in card?  Have you
  tried a different power supply yet?
  
 
 Motherboard: Gigabyte MA790GPT-UD3H. Chipset: AMD 790GX/SB750
 Onboard graphics: ATI Radeon HD 3300 Graphics
 Audio chipset: Realtek ALC889A
 LAN: Gigabit, Realtek 8111C
 
 Presently I am using onboard graphics, but till a few weeks ago I was
 using a PCIe Nvidia graphics card and the computer was still freezing
 the same way.

Generally hard freezes of the type you are describing is due to bad
hardware.  I trust ATI as much as I trust M$, but since you had the
same symptoms with the Nvidia, the video card is probably not the
problem. The problems I have seen with this kind of locking are:

memory
video cards

in that order.

I guess there is a remote possibility something is overheating.

Can you get the temperature readouts ?

If it's easy to do, try underclocking the CPU and buses.  Timing on the
MB could be off due to poor design, and running things slower would
improve the margins.

Make sure the bios settings for the memory are correct.  These days
it's supposed to read it from memory, but maybe it got stuck in manual
mode for some reason and the timings are screwed up.


 Brian


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Re: audio CDs and cdrdao vs. cdparanoia

2010-07-06 Thread Mark
On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 4:04 AM, Mirko Parthey 
mirko.part...@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de wrote:

[...]


 You could compare your results to Exact Audio Copy (Windows, free for
 non-commercial use), which reportedly also runs on WINE.


+1.  Also if you use EAC with AccurateRip enabled you can have quite good
confidence in your results.

Mark


RAID Questions

2010-07-06 Thread Kent West

I am a RAID newb.

I have a brand-new Dell Precision T1500 workstation with two 700GB SATA 
drives, pre-loaded with Windows 7.


Of course, Win7 has already been wiped off.

My goal is to have a redundant Debian (Stable) system, such that the 
second drive is a mirror of the first drive. I would think RAID1 would 
be the route to go.


However, being a RAID newbie, I'm running into all sorts of problems, 
not least of which that I simply don't understand some of the basic 
concepts.


I thought there was HARDWARE RAID and SOFTWARE RAID. Not knowing 
anything about it, I would have thought that with HARDWARE RAID, you'd 
go into the BIOS of the special drive-controller hardware (Ctrl-I in 
this case, just after the POST), and tell the hardware to mirror this 
drive to that drive, and that then when you go into the installation of 
the OS (Debian, in this case), the OS's partitioner would see one drive 
(the main one) and not see the other one, because the hardware RAID 
controller would hide it. Or if the OS partitioner saw the drive, it 
would see it as a clone/mirror of the first. At any rate, I thought the 
OS installation would be essentially uninvolved in the RAID setup.


I thought that with SOFTWARE RAID, all the RAID stuff would be done in 
the OS, and there'd be no need for a hardware controller.


But apparently this RAID hardware controller (Intel Rapid Storage 
Technology - Option ROM - 9.5.0.1037) is some sort of hybrid FIRMWARE 
RAID system.


It has three RAID levels available in the controller BIOS screen - 
RAID0, RAID1, and RECOVERY. I've been unable to find any reference on 
Intel's web site (or Google generally) for an explanation of this 
RECOVERY level. My best guess is that it is RAID10 (RAID1+0 ?) and Intel 
can't be bothered to be consistent in what it calls things.


If I set up the controller's BIOS screen to either RAID1 or RECOVERY, 
when I start the Debian installer and get to the partitioning scheme, I 
see a single 700GB RAID partition with a 1MB unusable partition, and 
then the /dev/sda and /dev/sdb drives.


If I try to partition the /dev/sda drive, it warns that all the RAID 
information will be wiped out. If I leave that alone and try to 
partition the RAID partition, I have no option to create separate 
partitions and just have one huge partition that I can mount on / (or 
wherever).


If I set up the controller's BIOS screen to non-RAID for the drives, and 
then use only the installer's partitioner to manually setup all my 
partitions on both drives, making them identical, and then use the RAID 
option in the partitioner to create a RAID partition for each actual 
partition and set mount points, the installer continues, but then won't 
install grub or lilo. (Further, I can't toggle the bootable flag on the 
drive's first partition; it stays OFF no matter what. This may be a bug 
in the installer - I found similar references via Google, but could not 
understand the solution (or even if there really was a solution).) But 
I figured I might could fix that later, and went ahead and rebooted. Of 
course, the system didn't boot, so I used the installer CD to boot into 
recovery mode, and then mounted a partition or two, and as far as I can 
tell, the partitions are completely blank, even after what seemed to be 
a successful install (minus the boot loader problem).


In short, I have no idea what I'm doing, or how to do it.

Should I use RAID at all, or should I use some other cloning technique, 
perhaps dd or rsync from a periodic cron job? (I was able to 
successfully install/boot a complete Stable system with RAID off in the 
firmware BIOS, installing onto the first drive like it was the only 
drive in the system.)


If I use RAID, do I set the Intel Rapid Storage Technology BIOS options 
to RAID1, RECOVERY, or no RAID?


How do I get around the problems I'm seeing in the Debian paritioner (no 
bootable flag, can't create multiple partitions or partitions are empty 
after install)?


Thanks for any suggestions/hints/clues.


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Re: RAID Questions

2010-07-06 Thread Michal

On 06/07/2010 16:16, Kent West wrote:

I am a RAID newb.

I have a brand-new Dell Precision T1500 workstation with two 700GB SATA
drives, pre-loaded with Windows 7.

Of course, Win7 has already been wiped off.

My goal is to have a redundant Debian (Stable) system, such that the
second drive is a mirror of the first drive. I would think RAID1 would
be the route to go.

However, being a RAID newbie, I'm running into all sorts of problems,
not least of which that I simply don't understand some of the basic
concepts.




Boasting that you of course wiped W7 off to then run in to problems 
with RAID and then come here, is amusing. Maybe you should do some 
research on RAID and how to do it in Debian, there are many helpful 
guides on settings up systems, however these are only guides and you 
also need to know how to recover from disk failures, raid controller 
failures and other such fun things. W7 has some very easy to use 
software raid tools which would have at least given you a helping start, 
I'm not saying they are the best, but they certainly are easy to get 
your head around.


Checkout some guides, check the archives and look up basic terminology, 
my fear is you will get a RAID1 set up for your data, to then spend 
countless hours trying to get your data back when something goes wrong, 
because you don't know how to do it, something which can be all too commmon



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Re: printing stopped after sid update

2010-07-06 Thread Frank Miles

Can't be sure, but you might want to check the permissions of
/usr/lib/cups/backend
If the permissions are set to accessible only by root, try
(as root):
chmod go+rx  /usr/lib/cups/backend

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Re: RAID Questions

2010-07-06 Thread Kent West

On 07/06/2010 10:35 AM, Michal wrote:

On 06/07/2010 16:16, Kent West wrote:

I am a RAID newb.

I have a brand-new Dell Precision T1500 workstation with two 700GB SATA
drives, pre-loaded with Windows 7.

Of course, Win7 has already been wiped off.

My goal is to have a redundant Debian (Stable) system, such that the
second drive is a mirror of the first drive. I would think RAID1 would
be the route to go.

However, being a RAID newbie, I'm running into all sorts of problems,
not least of which that I simply don't understand some of the basic
concepts.




Boasting that you of course wiped W7 off to then run in to problems 
with RAID and then come here, is amusing. Maybe you should do some 
research on RAID and how to do it in Debian, there are many helpful 
guides on settings up systems, however these are only guides and you 
also need to know how to recover from disk failures, raid controller 
failures and other such fun things. W7 has some very easy to use 
software raid tools which would have at least given you a helping 
start, I'm not saying they are the best, but they certainly are easy 
to get your head around.


Checkout some guides, check the archives and look up basic 
terminology, my fear is you will get a RAID1 set up for your data, to 
then spend countless hours trying to get your data back when something 
goes wrong, because you don't know how to do it, something which can 
be all too commmon





So..., you're saying that if I want to learn to use RAID, I should use 
Windows?


I've been doing research on RAID for the past week, and none of the 
documentation I've found addresses my issues.



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Re: RAID Questions

2010-07-06 Thread Bob Proulx
Kent West wrote:
 I thought there was HARDWARE RAID and SOFTWARE RAID.

There is.

 Not knowing anything about it, I would have thought that with
 HARDWARE RAID, you'd go into the BIOS of the special
 drive-controller hardware (Ctrl-I in this case, just after the

Consider this problem of using hardware raid from the motherboard.  It
is typically a proprietary scheme and can only be replicated on
another similar motherboard.  If while using this scheme your
motherboard dies then you may find yourself with two perfectly good
disks but no way to get the data off of them other than to find
another similar motherboard.  In fact even in environments with lots
of similar hardware I have seen problems trying to move disks using
hardware raid from one system to another while preserving the raided
data.

I recommend that you use Linux kernel software raid instead.  It is
quite reliable.  On the negative side if your BIOS boots only the
first disk and that is the disk that dies then the machine cannot be
booted unattended after a disk failure even if the second disk has a
full good copy of everything.  You would need to rotate the drives in
that case.

 that then when you go into the installation of the OS (Debian, in
 this case), the OS's partitioner would see one drive (the main one)
 and not see the other one, because the hardware RAID controller

After hardware raid is set up then original drive will not be seen but
a single new raid raid device will be available.

 I thought that with SOFTWARE RAID, all the RAID stuff would be done in  
 the OS, and there'd be no need for a hardware controller.

Yes.  With Linux kernel software raid all of the raid is done in
software by the Linux kernel.  This is completely separate from using
on motherboard hardware raid.

 But apparently this RAID hardware controller (Intel Rapid Storage  
 Technology - Option ROM - 9.5.0.1037) is some sort of hybrid FIRMWARE  
 RAID system.

I recommend that you ignore the hardware raid and instead use software
raid.  The Debian installer can set up software raid for you at system
installation time.  It is easy.  But it is also a little confusing.

 If I set up the controller's BIOS screen to either RAID1 or RECOVERY,  

To use software raid you wouldn't set up any bios raid at all.  You
would leave the drives unconfigured so that each drive is available
individually.

 when I start the Debian installer and get to the partitioning scheme, I  
 see a single 700GB RAID partition with a 1MB unusable partition, and  
 then the /dev/sda and /dev/sdb drives.

Any partitions you are seeing here are probably left over from the
previous operating system that you had installed on the disk before.
You will probably need to erase the old partitions and start fresh.

 If I set up the controller's BIOS screen to non-RAID for the drives, and  
 then use only the installer's partitioner to manually setup all my  
 partitions on both drives, making them identical, and then use the RAID  
 option in the partitioner to create a RAID partition for each actual  

You have things in the wrong order.  First erase all partitions, then
set up the partitions for the physical raid.  That will create a new
logical device that is the raid of the two physical devices.  Then set
up your operating system partitions *once* on the newly created raid
device.

 partition and set mount points, the installer continues, but then won't  
 install grub or lilo.

I always create a separate /boot partition because I also configure
LVM and grub doesn't know how to boot off of lvm.  Therefore a
separate /boot (on a software raid /dev/md0 logical partition) enables
grub to boot.  (I am talking grub from Lenny stable and before.  I
don't know if grub2 in Squeeze and later adds this capability.)  I
still thinking having a separate /dev/md0 for /boot makes a lot of
sense.

Don't forget that you should also put your swap on raid as well.

 In short, I have no idea what I'm doing, or how to do it.

Take a deep breath.  Sit in a calm place for a bit.  Then go back to
it and start again from the beginning.  Configure the BIOS to not set
up any raid at all.  The drives are just two normal drives.  Then use
the debian-installer to erase all previous partitions.  Start with a
clean slate.

Read through one of the many guides about installing Debian that will
walk you through the installation process step by step.  I always set
up lvm and so off the top of my head I would repeat the steps for
using lvm.  I think lvm is the way to go but the extra layer may be
too much for you here.  In any case, set up the physical raid device
first and then set up the system partitions afterward.

Bob


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Re: audio CDs and cdrdao vs. cdparanoia

2010-07-06 Thread Mark Allums
First, I would like to second the suggestion of trying Exact Audio Copy 
(if a Windows environment is available) and comparing those results.  +1


Second, I apologize for beating a dead horse, but in the event that a 
few people read my earlier posts, I wanted to make a correction to what 
I originally wrote.  In particular, the statement that there is no 
error correction on audio CDs is wrong.  The following (taken from 
ttp://www.cdrfaq.org/faq02.html) is rather long, but interesting:



Subject: [2-15] What are jitter and jitter correction?
(1998/04/06)

(below)

Subject: [2-17] Why don't audio CDs use error correction?
(2007/08/08)

(below)



On 7/6/2010 2:27 AM, Mark Allums wrote:

On 7/5/2010 3:43 PM, Urs Thuermann wrote:

Now my question is where these [CD-rip] differences come from and
which results
are the correct (better) ones.



Audio CDs live in a world where there is no guarantee that any two
passes across a sector will ever give the same result. For one thing,
there is no error correction. Give up the idea of getting a correct, or
perfect, rip; it's theoretically impossible.

In fact, that's why cdparanoia exists. In the days of CD-ROM drives, the
drives were not very good at ripping audio discs, and cdparanoia
compensated for the problems. It was also unbelievably slow. Today, DVD
drives have a much better disc transport, etc., and a lot of software is
smarter than it used to be, so ripping is only a real problem with
copy-protected CDs, and very damaged discs.




Subject: [2-15] What are jitter and jitter correction?
(1998/04/06)


The first thing to know is that there are two kinds of jitter that 
relate to audio CDs. The usual meaning of jitter refers to a time-base 
error when digital samples are converted back to an analog signal; see 
the jitter article on http://www.digido.com/ for an explanation. The 
other form of jitter is used in the context of digital audio 
extraction from CDs. This kind of jitter causes extracted audio 
samples to be doubled-up or skipped entirely. (Some people will 
correctly point out that the latter usage is an abuse of the term 
jitter, but we seem to be stuck with it.)


Jitter correction, in both senses of the word, is the process of 
compensating for jitter and restoring the audio to its intended form. 
This section is concerned with the (incorrect use of) jitter in the 
context of digital audio extraction.


The problem occurs because the Philips CD specification doesn't require 
block-accurate addressing. While the audio data is being fed into a 
buffer (a FIFO whose high- and low-water marks control the spindle 
speed), the address information for audio blocks is pulled out of the 
subcode channel and fed into a different part of the controller. Because 
the data and address information are disconnected, the CD player is 
unable to identify the exact start of each block. The inaccuracy is 
small, but if the system doing the extraction has to stop, write data to 
disk, and then go back to where it left off, it won't be able to seek to 
the exact same position. As a result, the extraction process will 
restart a few samples early or late, resulting in doubled or omitted 
samples. These glitches often sound like tiny repeating clicks during 
playback.


On a CD-ROM, the blocks have a 12-byte sync pattern in the header, as 
well as a copy of the block's address. It's possible to identify the 
start of a block and get the block's address by watching the data FIFO 
alone. This is why it's so much easier to pull single blocks off of a 
CD-ROM.


With most CD-ROM drives that support digital audio extraction, you can 
get jitter-free audio by using a program that extracts the entire track 
all at once. The problem with this method is that if the hard drive 
being written to can't keep up, some of the samples will be dropped. 
(This is similar to a CD-R buffer underrun, but since the output buffer 
used during DAE is much smaller than a CD-R's input buffer, the problem 
is magnified.)


Most newer drives (as well as nearly every model Plextor ever made) are 
based on an architecture that enables them to accurately detect the 
start of a block.


An approach that has produced good results is to do jitter correction in 
software. This involves performing overlapping reads, and then sliding 
the data around to find overlaps at the edges. Most DAE programs will 
perform jitter correction.



Subject: [2-17] Why don't audio CDs use error correction?
(2007/08/08)


Actually, they do. It is true that audio CDs use all 2352 bytes per 
block for sound samples, while CD-ROMs use only 2048 bytes per block, 
with most of the rest going to ECC (Error Correcting Code) data. The 
error correction that keeps your CDs sounding the way they're supposed 
to, even when scratched or dirty, is applied at a lower level. So while 
there isn't as much protection on an audio CD as there is on a CD-ROM, 
there's still enough to provide perfect or near-perfect sound quality 
under 

Re: RAID Questions

2010-07-06 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 06 Jul 2010 10:16:17 -0500, Kent West wrote:

 I am a RAID newb.

(...)

 In short, I have no idea what I'm doing, or how to do it.

First, hardware raid and software raid are two different worlds 
(involving different management techniques and performance). There is 
still a third raid type (fake-raid) which I would avoid as much as 
possible (this involves using a firmware and dm raid setup under OS).

Second, are you sure you need a raid setup? :-)

If so, and being newbie, I would go for a hardware raid controller (easy 
to setup). If not possible, then I should try software raid (linux md) 
but this requires a bit more time to get used to. I would test first on a 
test environment because while playing with hard disks you can easily 
lose your data.

 Should I use RAID at all, or should I use some other cloning technique,
 perhaps dd or rsync from a periodic cron job? (I was able to
 successfully install/boot a complete Stable system with RAID off in the
 firmware BIOS, installing onto the first drive like it was the only
 drive in the system.)

You should use (regarding raided or not) a good backup strategy :-)
 
 If I use RAID, do I set the Intel Rapid Storage Technology BIOS options
 to RAID1, RECOVERY, or no RAID?

I would not go that way (Intel raid tends to be fake-raid) :-/

 How do I get around the problems I'm seeing in the Debian paritioner (no
 bootable flag, can't create multiple partitions or partitions are empty
 after install)?

If you want to use pure software raid (linux raid), there is no need to 
setup nothing in the BIOS. Just tell the partitioner you ant to setup a 
raid1 level between the 2 disks.

Debian Installation Guide will tell you about this:

6.3.2.3. Configuring Multidisk Devices (Software RAID)
http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch06s03.html.en#di-partition

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Re: RAID Questions

2010-07-06 Thread Michal



So..., you're saying that if I want to learn to use RAID, I should use
Windows?

I've been doing research on RAID for the past week, and none of the
documentation I've found addresses my issues.




No no, not at all. Have you tried running through a guide? A quick 
search will give you something like this 
http://www.howtoforge.com/software-raid1-grub-boot-debian-etch Running 
through guides is a good start to give you a feel of what's going on and 
how to do it, from there you can explore other ideas, ones that maybe 
better suited to you and your setup. Also you can see how you can 
recover. It's always best to test you actually know how to recoverer 
from raid failures rather then just think you know to find out that you 
where incorrect.


finding out what hardware and software raid is only needs a wikipedia 
search for example, and as to use soft or hardware raid, have a search 
at the archives or just debates on the internet. Just remember that if 
you use hardware raid and your controller fails you will need to replace 
that. Can you use any controller or does it have to the exact same one? 
If it needs to be the exact same one and it's built in to the 
motherboard, what do you do? These are the questions you need answers 
to. Setting up software raid in Linux is very easy and you can do it at 
install. Tools like mdstat and mdadm etc will help you out



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Re: RAID Questions

2010-07-06 Thread Kent West

On 07/06/2010 10:57 AM, Bob Proulx wrote:

Kent West wrote:
   

I thought there was HARDWARE RAID and SOFTWARE RAID.
 

There is.

   

Not knowing anything about it, I would have thought that with
HARDWARE RAID, you'd go into the BIOS of the special
drive-controller hardware (Ctrl-I in this case, just after the
 

Consider this problem of using hardware raid from the motherboard.  It
is typically a proprietary scheme and can only be replicated on
another similar motherboard.  If while using this scheme your
motherboard dies then you may find yourself with two perfectly good
disks but no way to get the data off of them other than to find
another similar motherboard.


That's a very good point. Thanks for making it.


I recommend that you use Linux kernel software raid instead.
   



I recommend that you ignore the hardware raid and instead use software
raid.



To use software raid you wouldn't set up any bios raid at all.  You
would leave the drives unconfigured so that each drive is available
individually.
   


Okay, thanks! That gets me farther along.



You have things in the wrong order.  First erase all partitions, then
set up the partitions for the physical raid.  That will create a new
logical device that is the raid of the two physical devices.  Then set
up your operating system partitions *once* on the newly created raid
device.

   

partition and set mount points, the installer continues, but then won't
install grub or lilo.
 

I always create a separate /boot partition because I also configure
LVM and grub doesn't know how to boot off of lvm.  Therefore a
separate /boot (on a software raid /dev/md0 logical partition) enables
grub to boot.  (I am talking grub from Lenny stable and before.  I
don't know if grub2 in Squeeze and later adds this capability.)  I
still thinking having a separate /dev/md0 for /boot makes a lot of
sense.

Don't forget that you should also put your swap on raid as well.
   


Thanks for the help! Just knowing what to do with the Intel RAID BIOS 
stuff gets me past a big hurdle.


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Re: Scim and iceweasel

2010-07-06 Thread Lisi
On Tuesday 06 July 2010 15:37:04 H.S. wrote:
 The only hiccup is that its
 applet does not start when I log in. This gives an option of switching
 to my last changed keyboard using CTRL+SPC only

I have it working, so far as I can see, perfectly on Lenny, applet and all, 
Oowriter and all.  Tho' I prefer ctrl+space as an access method.  But I have 
it working in Japanese.

I could dig out my notes if that would be any help.  (I set it up a while 
ago.)

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Re: RAID Questions

2010-07-06 Thread Kent West

On 07/06/2010 11:13 AM, Camaleón wrote:

On Tue, 06 Jul 2010 10:16:17 -0500, Kent West wrote:

   

I am a RAID newb.
 

(...)

   

In short, I have no idea what I'm doing, or how to do it.
 


Second, are you sure you need a raid setup? :-)
   


Nope; that's why I asked if I should go RAID or some other cloning 
technique.




You should use (regarding raided or not) a good backup strategy :-)
   


Yep; I've got an external Buffalo backup appliance that I will also be 
using.




If I use RAID, do I set the Intel Rapid Storage Technology BIOS options
to RAID1, RECOVERY, or no RAID?
 

I would not go that way (Intel raid tends to be fake-raid) :-/
   
If you want to use pure software raid (linux raid), there is no need to

setup nothing in the BIOS. Just tell the partitioner you ant to setup a
raid1 level between the 2 disks.
   


Ah. That's the piece of information I needed to get around my first 
hurdle. Thanks!



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how to automaticaly turn off touchpad using xinput

2010-07-06 Thread Martin Kraus
Hi. I've been running X without xorg for a year now to my complete
satisfaction. The only problem I have is a touchpad which I don't use and it
only gets in the way. I'm turning it off with xinput because the sl410 lenovo
I have doesn't allow to turn it off in bios as the ibm thinkpads I've owned
previously allowed.

The problem is that sometimes the xinput id of the touchpad differs and having
it in .xinputrc sometimes turned off the track point and sometimes even the
keyboard which really hinders its usability. Is there some automatic way to do
this in a secure fasion like using the name returned by input layer and used
by xinput?

Also after resume/suspend the touchpad is enabled again and I have to manualy
turn it off. 

thanks for any pointers
mk


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Re: Logitech MX 5500 Keyboard + mouse problem since recent squeeze upgrade

2010-07-06 Thread Jose G. López
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Mark Fletcher escribió:
 I am running amd64 squeeze on an Intel Core i7 920-based machine with
 8GB RAM. I built the machine about a year ago and have been running
 squeeze on it since.
 
 I use a Logitech (Logicool) MX5500 wireless keyboard and mouse combo. 
 
 For about the last month or so I hadn't updated packages -- not for any
 particular reason, just hadn't gotten around to it. The other day I did
 -- and now my keyboard is not working.
 
 The keyboard and mouse work fine in Windows (on another machine). The
 keyboard also is working as the machine is switched on as I can use it
 to select boot kernel in GRUB. It's once Debian starts booting that it
 breaks.
 
 This is exactly the same symptom I observed a few months ago when the
 upgrade from udev 151-1 to 151-3 or something introduced a mod
 to /lib/udev/rules.d/70-hid2hci.rules which was supposed to fix a udev
 bug but broke a lot of people's keyboards in the process. I successfully
 applied the manual fix for that at the time and have since allowed udev
 to upgrade naturally with no subsequent problems.
 
 So naturally, the first place I looked was udev. I note udev is now at
 version 157, so I wondered if it was broken again. There don't seem to
 be any bugs to this effect logged, so I thought I'd give udev from sid a
 go since it doesn't seem to introduce any dependency problems.
 Installing sid's udev (v158) did not fix it.
 
 I have googled around for this and don't see anything newer than the
 last flurry on this subject a few months ago as referenced above. It's
 almost like no one else is having this problem... :-(
 
 I noticed that the kernel has also been upgraded to 2.6.32-5-amd64, so I
 rebooted and selected the old kernel (2.6.32-3-amd64) and that did not
 help either. 
 
 Is anyone else experiencing similar problems? Any advice? I am not sure
 what other information I should provide that would help diagnose the
 problem... Right now I am having to use this
 easily-most-powerful-machine-in-my-network via ssh only from other
 machines as I don't have a spare keyboard and mouse to switch to it.
 Really want to get this machine fully back on its feet ASAP so any help
 appreciated...
 
 Thanks
 
 Mark
 
 
Hello Mark,

I have the same issue with same combo on my desktop computer. I had the
same problem a few months ago and it was repaired as you explained.
Sorry, I can't give you answers. I did a search and nothing helped.

I've read these bug reports but this time they didn't help:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bluez/+bug/272352
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/291269
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1465748

Some help would be very appreciated

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Re: strange freezes or lock ups on memory intensive tasks

2010-07-06 Thread Stan Hoeppner
H.S. put forth on 7/6/2010 8:15 AM:
 On 06/07/10 02:47 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote:

 What motherboard?  Integrated video/GPU or add in card?  Have you tried a
 different power supply yet?

 
 Motherboard: Gigabyte MA790GPT-UD3H. Chipset: AMD 790GX/SB750
 Onboard graphics: ATI Radeon HD 3300 Graphics
 Audio chipset: Realtek ALC889A
 LAN: Gigabit, Realtek 8111C
 
 Presently I am using onboard graphics, but till a few weeks ago I was
 using a PCIe Nvidia graphics card and the computer was still freezing
 the same way.

Have you tried a different power supply yet?  Launching an app like FF puts
simultaneous load on the CPU, memory, and hard disk(s).  A marginal PSU can
can cause problems like you are seeing under these conditions if it can't
output the current required by the load.  This is not uncommon.

Hardware is relatively easy, time wise, to test and eliminate as causes of
failure.  Troubleshooting kernels and drivers can be much more time consuming.

If you have another known good PSU swap it in and see if that fixes the
problem.  PSUs are the cheapest components in most PCs, and almost everyone
overlooks the importance of a quality PSU when building a machine.  They just
take whatever comes with the case they order.  Sometimes you get a lemon PSU
this way.  Only way to know is to swap it out.

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Re: RAID Questions

2010-07-06 Thread Miles Fidelman



On 06/07/2010 16:16, Kent West wrote:

I am a RAID newb.

My goal is to have a redundant Debian (Stable) system, such that the
second drive is a mirror of the first drive. I would think RAID1 would
be the route to go.

However, being a RAID newbie, I'm running into all sorts of problems,
not least of which that I simply don't understand some of the basic
concepts.

Well, perhaps you should read up on the basic concepts.  I'd start with:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAID
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAID_1

Then, for Linux (software) RAID:
https://raid.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Linux_Raid
or in a somewhat more readable (but older) form: 
http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Software-RAID-HOWTO.html


Then, for Debian RAID: Read the sections on RAID in the Debian 
installation manual.


Basic summary of steps:

1.  start installer, go through initial steps (keyboard, network, etc.)

2.  start up disk partitioner
-- create partitions - here's what I go with (but for servers) - do this 
for each drive (personally, I find it easer to do this with fdisk)

 part1 boot primary Linux RAID 2G
 part2 primary Linux RAID 3G for swap
 part3 primary Linux RAID rest of the space for root
-- set up RAIDs
 /dev/md0 - 2G - ext3 (or ext4) file system, mount point is /boot
 /dev/md1 - 3G - swap
 /dev/md2 - REMAINDER OF DRIVE - ext3(4) file system, mount point /

3. rest of the installation procedure

4. after you've rebooted and are into your newly set up system:

to make sure that you have grub installed on the MBRs of both drives (do 
some googling on boot +RAID1 to understand, also read up on grub)


shell grub-install hd0
shell grub-install hd1

and then edit /boot/grub/menu.lst:

#add these to boot off your second drive if the first fails
default 0
fallback n -- n depends on where you duplicate your boot clause

#duplicate your first boot clause, but change the line root (hd0,0) to 
root (hd1,0)


##test this - reboot, TAB to get into the boot screen, select the 
fallback boot, see if it works


5. One serious gotcha to watch out for, down the road:  If one drive 
starts failing, the first symptom is often long delays in access time 
(the internal drive software keeps trying to read data, and if it can, 
it will eventually return).  Unfortunately, Linux software RAID treats 
this as perfectly ok behavior - it will keep the drive in the array.  
But... your entire machine will slow to a complete crawl.  Confusing as 
hell, until you realize what's going on.  (On some laptops, a shorted 
battery causes the same symptom).


Some things to do:

- set up smart tools, keep an eye on the Raw_Read_Error_Rate value - if 
it's anything other than 0, start worrying


- install something like atop (or precisely like atop) - if it shows 
that that one of your drives is near 100% busy, it's probably failing


- if a drive is failing, use mdadm to fail the drive - things will 
start performing a lot better; then replace the drive


- be VERY careful during recovery, it's pretty easy to destroy the good 
copy of your data (I learned this the hard way, the first time I ran 
into this particular failure mode)


- as someone pointed out, RAID is not a substitute for backup - the 
first time I had to rebuild from a disk crash, despite RAID, I was glad 
all my user data was backed up.  Either set up an external drive or 
subscribe to something like CrashPlan.


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Re: how to automaticaly turn off touchpad using xinput

2010-07-06 Thread Arthur Machlas
 The problem is that sometimes the xinput id of the touchpad differs and having
 it in .xinputrc sometimes turned off the track point and sometimes even the
 keyboard which really hinders its usability. Is there some automatic way to do
 this in a secure fasion like using the name returned by input layer and used
 by xinput?

 Also after resume/suspend the touchpad is enabled again and I have to manualy
 turn it off.

Haven't tried this in a while, as I'm using synclient now to do the
job, but used to do what you're talking about by removing the psmouse
module.

If rmmod psmouse turns off your touchpad, and leaves the usb mice
working, perhaps that would be a simple solution, with blacklist
module, or rmmod script called by rc.local and a sleep.d hook assuming
pm-utils.

Best,
AM


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Re: password memory

2010-07-06 Thread Gary L. Roach
Sorry but the save password option is checked and the exception list is 
empty. No joy. Any other ideas?


Gary R.

On 07/05/2010 10:28 PM, debian-user-digest-requ...@lists.debian.org wrote:

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Re: password memory

2010-07-06 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Ma, 06 iul 10, 10:24:54, Gary L. Roach wrote:
 Sorry but the save password option is checked and the exception list
 is empty. No joy. Any other ideas?

Move the .mozilla directory somewhere else and retry or just creat a new 
account. If it works you'll know it's something in the user 
configuration.

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Re: RAID Questions

2010-07-06 Thread Alan Chandler

On 06/07/10 18:15, Miles Fidelman wrote:



1. start installer, go through initial steps (keyboard, network, etc.)

2. start up disk partitioner
-- create partitions - here's what I go with (but for servers) - do this
for each drive (personally, I find it easer to do this with fdisk)
 part1 boot primary Linux RAID 2G
 part2 primary Linux RAID 3G for swap


Personally. I can't see the point in using RAID for swap.  So I use this 
partion on each drive as just a SWAP partition and add each swap in to 
give (in your case) 6G of swap space.



 part3 primary Linux RAID rest of the space for root
-- set up RAIDs
 /dev/md0 - 2G - ext3 (or ext4) file system, mount point is /boot
What to you envisage going in /boot?  I make mine 100 M and that is 
always plenty.




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Re: RAID Questions

2010-07-06 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 06 Jul 2010 11:27:31 -0500, Kent West wrote:

 On 07/06/2010 11:13 AM, Camaleón wrote:
  
 Second, are you sure you need a raid setup? :-)


 Nope; that's why I asked if I should go RAID or some other cloning
 technique.

Is a home computer or a server/workstation? Can you (or your company) 
afford a disk going down or data loss?

 You should use (regarding raided or not) a good backup strategy :-)


 Yep; I've got an external Buffalo backup appliance that I will also be
 using.

Good. Remember that raid does not prevent from the human error factor ;-)

 I would not go that way (Intel raid tends to be fake-raid) :-/

 If you want to use pure software raid (linux raid), there is no need to
 setup nothing in the BIOS. Just tell the partitioner you ant to setup a
 raid1 level between the 2 disks.


 Ah. That's the piece of information I needed to get around my first
 hurdle. Thanks!

Fake-raid (firmware+bios raid) is more used on dual-boot systems (windows 
and linux) when windows OS was configured for using a raid setup. In such 
cases, one has no other chance and keep the fake-raid in order to use 
linux :-(

But if you are not binded to windows, better go with md (software 
linux) that is far more flexible and very well supported in linux. 
Although I'm not sure if today md setup allows booting from raid 
partition or still boot manager has to be dropped off the raid volume :-?

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Re: Network crashes under heavy load

2010-07-06 Thread Nathen
I posted this earlier but it's not appeared on the list for some reason:

Sorry about the delay I didn't have a chance to try anything yesterday.
Anyway I've just tried a direct connection, updating BIOS, compiling and
installing the latest drivers and it's still the same, if not worse - it
seems I can crash it with as little as two iperf runs now. I'm still
relatively inexperienced with Linux though so I might be doing something
wrong. I haven't managed to find that PCI card yet but I'll keep looking
or try to borrow one from a friend or something.

I'm using an Intel Atom D510MO board and no RAID.


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Re: RAID Questions

2010-07-06 Thread Alan Chandler

On 06/07/10 16:57, Bob Proulx wrote:

Kent West wrote:


partition and set mount points, the installer continues, but then won't
install grub or lilo.


I always create a separate /boot partition because I also configure
LVM and grub doesn't know how to boot off of lvm.  Therefore a
separate /boot (on a software raid /dev/md0 logical partition) enables
grub to boot.  (I am talking grub from Lenny stable and before.  I
don't know if grub2 in Squeeze and later adds this capability.)  I
still thinking having a separate /dev/md0 for /boot makes a lot of
sense.


I have just (about 10 days ago) set up just such a configuration.  I 
made my boot partition and used extlinux instead of grub or lilo.


This was a result of a thread on this list about grub v lilo and someone 
mentioned extlinux and I decided to give it a go.  REALLY easy to set up 
once I had installed the debian extlinux package (and removed grub pc). 
 It helps with kernel upgrades if you adjust /etc/kernel-img.conf to 
set link_in_boot = yes (as this gives symlinks vmlinuz and initrd.img in 
the /boot directory as opposed to the root directory - which makes it 
easier for the extlinux.conf file to have its default kernel as /vmlinuz)


(according to the syslinux/extlinux wiki you install it on the raid 
partition - but you then install an MBR into each original device's boot 
sector separately )



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Re: RAID Questions

2010-07-06 Thread Kent West

On 07/06/2010 11:21 AM, Michal wrote:



So..., you're saying that if I want to learn to use RAID, I should use
Windows?

I've been doing research on RAID for the past week, and none of the
documentation I've found addresses my issues.




No no, not at all. Have you tried running through a guide? A quick 
search will give you something like this 
http://www.howtoforge.com/software-raid1-grub-boot-debian-etch Running 
through guides is a good start to give you a feel of what's going on 
and how to do it, from there you can explore other ideas, ones that 
maybe better suited to you and your setup. Also you can see how you 
can recover. It's always best to test you actually know how to 
recoverer from raid failures rather then just think you know to find 
out that you where incorrect.


finding out what hardware and software raid is only needs a wikipedia 
search for example, and as to use soft or hardware raid, have a search 
at the archives or just debates on the internet. Just remember that if 
you use hardware raid and your controller fails you will need to 
replace that. Can you use any controller or does it have to the exact 
same one? If it needs to be the exact same one and it's built in to 
the motherboard, what do you do? These are the questions you need 
answers to. Setting up software raid in Linux is very easy and you can 
do it at install. Tools like mdstat and mdadm etc will help you out




As mentioned, none of the research I've done (including the Wikipedia 
article specifically addressing my hardware) has addressed my specific 
issues. But Bob and Camaleón have provided the extra umph I've needed 
to get over my first hurdle.


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Re: RAID Questions

2010-07-06 Thread Kent West

On 07/06/2010 11:13 AM, Camaleón wrote:

On Tue, 06 Jul 2010 10:16:17 -0500, Kent West wrote:
   

How do I get around the problems I'm seeing in the Debian paritioner (no
bootable flag ...




I'm thinking this must be a bug in the installer's partitioner. If I let 
the install create partitions automatically, the bootable flag is set. 
But if I unset it and then try to re-set it, or if I manually create 
partitions, I can not set the bootable flag. It stays off.



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Re: advice on amd64

2010-07-06 Thread Ron Johnson

On 07/06/2010 01:40 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote:

Mark put forth on 7/5/2010 11:51 PM:


I admire the OP's class in his response.  Thought that comment about youtube
and pr0n was completely unnecessary and unsolicited when I read it.


Dry humor doesn't include emoticons.



If you're that addicted to youtube and pr0n is only dryly humorous 
among friends.


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Re: RAID Questions

2010-07-06 Thread Alan Chandler

On 06/07/10 19:30, Kent West wrote:

On 07/06/2010 11:13 AM, Camaleón wrote:

On Tue, 06 Jul 2010 10:16:17 -0500, Kent West wrote:

How do I get around the problems I'm seeing in the Debian paritioner (no
bootable flag ...




I'm thinking this must be a bug in the installer's partitioner. If I let
the install create partitions automatically, the bootable flag is set.
But if I unset it and then try to re-set it, or if I manually create
partitions, I can not set the bootable flag. It stays off.




If you can't find a better alternative

Alt f2 (I think its alt) to get an alternative console and use fdisk

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