Re: No sound from Flash, but other methods work well

[Jimmy Johnson]

Ron Johnson wrote:

On 07/17/2010 04:09 PM, Jimmy Johnson wrote:



Ron I've had that problem a couple times before, what I found was one of
my channels was "not" selected in the volume control in Kmix.


That's kinda where my thoughts have been leaning, since USB Audio only 
have Bass, Treble and PCM in it's mixer.  But I don't know what to do 
about it.



I hate sound problems, for me the channel was there, I only had to 
select it. Good luck.

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Re: Confirming submission of bug report

[briand]

On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 03:09:07 + (UTC)
T o n g  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> >From time to time, my bug report that sent to sub...@bugs.debian.org
> >get 
> lost to nowhere. I.e., I don't hear anything back from the Debian Bug 
> Tracking System (I haven't received anything for my bug report sent
> this morning yet).
> 
> Since the failure might happens two ways, is there anyway for me to 
> confirm that my bug report has arrived safely, like checking to
> official mailing list archives to check if my mlist post arrives
> safely?
> 

That's never happened to me before.  I believe that the initial
confirmation is automated and wouldn't depend on somebody "doing
something".  It may be that you won't hear back from the package
maintainer...

You can easily look at the package at debian.org and look under bugs.
There will be a link on the package page.  Make sure you are looking at
the correct system (i386, amd64, etc..) and release level (stable,
testing, etc...) !

Brian


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Confirming submission of bug report

[T o n g]

Hi,

>From time to time, my bug report that sent to sub...@bugs.debian.org get 
lost to nowhere. I.e., I don't hear anything back from the Debian Bug 
Tracking System (I haven't received anything for my bug report sent this 
morning yet).

Since the failure might happens two ways, is there anyway for me to 
confirm that my bug report has arrived safely, like checking to official 
mailing list archives to check if my mlist post arrives safely?

Thanks

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Re: Problem Replacing LVM on RAID1 Disk

[Gabor Heja]

Hello,

The four failures seem really high to me too. This might be a silly
question but: have you checked/replaced the controller and cables yet?

I had a machine with four disks and one of them picked randomly were
reported as bad every few weeks (all of them connected to the motherboard).
I ruled out the cables and HDDs so I decided to put a PCI controller card
in the machine and since then I got no errors. (Of course, my best choice
would be to replace the motherboard, but that was not an option at that
time.)

Are you sure your disks are bad? Have you ran badblocks on them ("badblocks
-vws" for read-WRITE mode, check man page before running)?

Regards,
Gabor

On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 15:19:30 -0500, Stan Hoeppner 
wrote:
> Matthew Glubb put forth on 7/17/2010 3:11 AM:
> 
>> Normally in the past when a disk has failed, I have dropped the
> offending disk from the array, replaced the disk, booted, rebuilt the
> filesystem on the new disk and re-synced the array. I've done this about
> four times with this method.
> 
> Once you fix your immediate problem you really need to address the larger
> issue, which is:
> 
> Why are you suffering so many disk failures, apparently on a single host?
> 
> The probability of one OP/host suffering 4 disk failures, even over a
long
> period such as 10 years, is astronomically low.  If you manage a server
> farm
> of a few dozen or more hosts and had one disk failure on each of four of
> them,
> the odds are bit higher.  However in your case we're not talking about a
> farm
> situation are we?
> 
> Are these disks really failing, or are you seeing the software RAID
driver
> flag disks that aren't really going bad?  What make/model disk drives are
> these that are apparently failing?  Do you have sufficient airflow in the
> case
> to cool the drives?  Is the host in an environment with a constant
ambient
> temperature over 80 degrees Fahrenheit?
> 
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> 
> 
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Re: No sound from Flash, but other methods work well

[Ron Johnson]

On 07/17/2010 05:57 PM, Camaleón wrote:

On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 17:13:35 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:


On 07/17/2010 04:30 PM, Camaleón wrote:



Run "alsamixer" and check the volume for all the channels :-?



First thing I did.

Note, though, that for USB Audio there are only three channels: Bass,
Treble, PCM.

No "Master".  That may very well be the problem, but I don't know what
to do about it.


Yep, but having no master channel should also make no sound for the rest
of the applications and not just Icewasel :-?

It's quite bizarre...

Wait, is the USB device a headset or an external sound card?


Speakers.  But effectively big headsets.


 I say that
beacuse of this:

http://www.google.com/webhp?hl=en#hl=en&q=firefox+flash+headset+sound+linux&fp=6c67857170793776



They all reference asoundconf which has apparently been deprecated 
for PA.



Maybe is not just Flash the only app having no sound in Iceweasel.



MP3s play just fine.

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Re: No sound from Flash, but other methods work well

[Camaleón]

On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 17:13:35 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:

> On 07/17/2010 04:30 PM, Camaleón wrote:

>> Run "alsamixer" and check the volume for all the channels :-?
>>
>>
> First thing I did.
> 
> Note, though, that for USB Audio there are only three channels: Bass,
> Treble, PCM.
> 
> No "Master".  That may very well be the problem, but I don't know what
> to do about it.

Yep, but having no master channel should also make no sound for the rest 
of the applications and not just Icewasel :-?

It's quite bizarre...

Wait, is the USB device a headset or an external sound card? I say that 
beacuse of this:

http://www.google.com/webhp?hl=en#hl=en&q=firefox+flash+headset+sound+linux&fp=6c67857170793776

Maybe is not just Flash the only app having no sound in Iceweasel. 

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Re: No sound from Flash, but other methods work well

[Ron Johnson]

On 07/17/2010 04:30 PM, Camaleón wrote:

On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 16:16:01 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:


On 07/17/2010 03:24 PM, Camaleón wrote:



Are you getting any output errors when launching Iceweasel from console
and loading any flash video?



Nope...


Run "alsamixer" and check the volume for all the channels :-?



First thing I did.

Note, though, that for USB Audio there are only three channels:
Bass, Treble, PCM.

No "Master".  That may very well be the problem, but I don't know 
what to do about it.


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Re: No sound from Flash, but other methods work well

[Camaleón]

On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 16:16:01 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:

> On 07/17/2010 03:24 PM, Camaleón wrote:

>> Are you getting any output errors when launching Iceweasel from console
>> and loading any flash video?
>>
>>
> Nope...

Run "alsamixer" and check the volume for all the channels :-?

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Re: Home directory viewable from another profile

[Bob Proulx]

AG wrote:
> I have created another account for someone who will need to use my  
> computer for a while.  However, when checking this, I found that my own  
> files are viewable from this second account.

By default files in the home are readable but not writable.

> How do I set the permissions so that the contents of my own /home/ag  
> account are not viewable from the new user account?

  $ chmod o-rwx ~/

That is 'o' for 'other' minus read-write-execute permissions.  You can
run that recursively if you like with 'chmod -R'.

> For obvious reasons, I want to be careful about the permissions I
> set so I don't lock myself out.  I think that it is chown 700
> /home/ag -R but can someone please confirm that this will do what I
> want before I screw things up.

I commend you for asking.  Using 'chown 700 /home/ag -R' would
probably fail but does something completely different on two counts.
One is that you want chmod not chown.  'chown 700' would try to change
the ownership to user number 700, but would probably fail since only
root can give away file ownership[1].

But then if you had actually used 'chmod 700' it would be bad because
that hard sets the execute bit on every file!  You don't want that
either.  Also you really have no reason to lock out your own group, it
is your own group after all, so leave off the group restriction.  Read
up on UPG (user private groups) for more information.

Using the symbolic modes is the modern way (modern as in as of around
twenty years ago modern) and avoids the trap of hard setting all of
the bits.  I think they are easier for people to understand too.  If
you want to do it the old way with hard numbers then using 'find' is
the way to go.  And if you have messed things up then some creative
find commands can repair things.

Bob

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Re: No sound from Flash, but other methods work well

[Ron Johnson]

On 07/17/2010 04:09 PM, Jimmy Johnson wrote:

Ron Johnson wrote:

Hi,

My Google-fu must not be up to snuff, because I've Googled much
without any luck.

USB Audio
32-bit Sid
ALSA 1.0.23+dfsg-1
Flash 10.1r53 (from adobe.com)
Iceweasel 3.6.4-1 (experimental)
vlc 1.1.0
users are in group audio

Sound plays fine from local sources but not from Flash/Iceweasel.
(Yes, Flash *video* works.)

Any thoughts on how to solve this would be much appreciated, since
otherwise my wife will insist on moving back to Windows.



Ron I've had that problem a couple times before, what I found was one of
my channels was "not" selected in the volume control in Kmix.


That's kinda where my thoughts have been leaning, since USB Audio 
only have Bass, Treble and PCM in it's mixer.  But I don't know what 
to do about it.


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Re: No sound from Flash, but other methods work well

[Ron Johnson]

On 07/17/2010 03:24 PM, Camaleón wrote:

On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 14:28:50 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:


On 07/17/2010 02:08 PM, Camaleón wrote:



Maybe related to this?

***
Adobe Flash Player: does not produce audio on playback
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=565423 ***


I don't have flashplugin-nonfree installed,


That package is basically the same that the original flash from Adobe.


and the correct device
(USB-Audio) is the ALSA default.

$ cat /proc/asound/cards
   0 [Device ]: USB-Audio - USB Audio Device
Elite Silicon USB Audio Device at
usb-:00:13.0-1, full speed
   1 [IXP]: ATIIXP - ATI IXP
ATI IXP rev 80 with ALC658D at 0xfe02a000, irq 17


It looks correct.

Are you getting any output errors when launching Iceweasel from console
and loading any flash video?



Nope...

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Re: [Solved ??? Please do not follow web resources without checking]: Scim and iceweasel

[Osamu Aoki]

Hi,

On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 08:56:13AM -0700, Kelly Clowers wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 07:54, H.S.  wrote:
> > On 17/07/10 07:49 AM, Osamu Aoki wrote:
> >>
> >> Sourcing ~/.bashrc does not work for programs started by menu as I
> >> understand.  So this is not the best solution.
> >
> > Isn't the file read when one logs in to a DE? That is what appears to be
> > happening when I log in to KDE. Since I put those variables in ~/.bashrc,
> > scim is working flawlessly for me. But this may be happening due my
> > ~/.profile which sources .bashrc file. Sorry, I always get confused in these
> > files intended order/situations of reading (including ~/.bash_profile).
> 
> .bash_profile is always read at login. .bashrc is often read at login as well,
> due to being sourced in .bash_profile, but not all systems are set up this 
> way.
> .bashrc is read for every non-login shell that is started.

There were discussion how to initialize X environment. Debian is
different from RH.

Environment are set
1. PAM for gdm via /etc/environment
2. /etc/X11/Xsession with $HOME/.xsessionrc

Unlike RedHat, Debian do not source $HOME/.profile in obvious way as I
see.  (I did not check if $HOME/.profile is sourced somewhere but above
are the main location to set it.  Otherwise use hooks provided by glue
software such as im-switch or im-config run in /etc/X11/xinit/xinput.d/)


> Currently, my ibus env setting are in /etc/X11/xinit/xinput.d/

That is im-switch

> I think ibus actually set them up itself, as I don't remember doing it (I set 
> up
> scim in /etc/profile, back when I used it, I think)

Are you sure you were using Debian ?


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Re: No sound from Flash, but other methods work well

[Jimmy Johnson]

Ron Johnson wrote:

Hi,

My Google-fu must not be up to snuff, because I've Googled much without 
any luck.


USB Audio
32-bit Sid
ALSA 1.0.23+dfsg-1
Flash 10.1r53 (from adobe.com)
Iceweasel 3.6.4-1 (experimental)
vlc 1.1.0
users are in group audio

Sound plays fine from local sources but not from Flash/Iceweasel. (Yes, 
Flash *video* works.)


Any thoughts on how to solve this would be much appreciated, since 
otherwise my wife will insist on moving back to Windows.


Thanks



Ron I've had that problem a couple times before, what I found was one of
my channels was "not" selected in the volume control in Kmix.
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Re: No sound from Flash, but other methods work well

[Jimmy Johnson]

Ron Johnson wrote:

Hi,

My Google-fu must not be up to snuff, because I've Googled much without 
any luck.


USB Audio
32-bit Sid
ALSA 1.0.23+dfsg-1
Flash 10.1r53 (from adobe.com)
Iceweasel 3.6.4-1 (experimental)
vlc 1.1.0
users are in group audio

Sound plays fine from local sources but not from Flash/Iceweasel. (Yes, 
Flash *video* works.)


Any thoughts on how to solve this would be much appreciated, since 
otherwise my wife will insist on moving back to Windows.


Thanks



Ron I've had that problem a couple times before, what I found was one of 
my channels was selected in the volume control in Kmix.

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Home directory viewable from another profile

[AG]

Hi

I have created another account for someone who will need to use my 
computer for a while.  However, when checking this, I found that my own 
files are viewable from this second account.


How do I set the permissions so that the contents of my own /home/ag 
account are not viewable from the new user account?  For obvious 
reasons, I want to be careful about the permissions I set so I don't 
lock myself out.  I think that it is chown 700 /home/ag -R but can 
someone please confirm that this will do what I want before I screw 
things up.


Many thanks

AG


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Re: where's udevinfo ?

[Florian Kulzer]

On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 13:12:44 -0700, bri...@aracnet.com wrote:
> pretty much every tutorial out there refers to udevinfo.
> 
> the debian web search shows that it's in the udev unstable package, but
> when I look at the list of files under udev, it's not present.
> 
> has it been replaced by something else ?

All the udev... commands are integrated into udevadm now, e.g.:

udevinfo -> udevadm info
udevtest -> udevadm test

etc.

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Re: where's udevinfo ?

[Sven Joachim]

On 2010-07-17 22:12 +0200, bri...@aracnet.com wrote:

> pretty much every tutorial out there refers to udevinfo.
>
> the debian web search shows that it's in the udev unstable package, but
> when I look at the list of files under udev, it's not present.

Presumably packages.debian.org finds it in the outdated m68k package;
other architectures should no longer have it.

> has it been replaced by something else ?

Yes, by "udevadm info".  In udev 117, udevadm was introduced and
udevinfo and other programs turned into compatibility symlinks.  The
symlinks were deprecated in udev 128 and removed for good in udev 147.

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Re: No sound from Flash, but other methods work well

[Camaleón]

On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 14:28:50 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:

> On 07/17/2010 02:08 PM, Camaleón wrote:

>> Maybe related to this?
>>
>> ***
>> Adobe Flash Player: does not produce audio on playback
>> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=565423 ***
> 
> I don't have flashplugin-nonfree installed, 

That package is basically the same that the original flash from Adobe.

> and the correct device
> (USB-Audio) is the ALSA default.
> 
> $ cat /proc/asound/cards
>   0 [Device ]: USB-Audio - USB Audio Device
>Elite Silicon USB Audio Device at
> usb-:00:13.0-1, full speed
>   1 [IXP]: ATIIXP - ATI IXP
>ATI IXP rev 80 with ALC658D at 0xfe02a000, irq 17

It looks correct.

Are you getting any output errors when launching Iceweasel from console 
and loading any flash video?

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Re: Problem Replacing LVM on RAID1 Disk

[Stan Hoeppner]

Matthew Glubb put forth on 7/17/2010 3:11 AM:

> Normally in the past when a disk has failed, I have dropped the offending 
> disk from the array, replaced the disk, booted, rebuilt the filesystem on the 
> new disk and re-synced the array. I've done this about four times with this 
> method.

Once you fix your immediate problem you really need to address the larger
issue, which is:

Why are you suffering so many disk failures, apparently on a single host?

The probability of one OP/host suffering 4 disk failures, even over a long
period such as 10 years, is astronomically low.  If you manage a server farm
of a few dozen or more hosts and had one disk failure on each of four of them,
the odds are bit higher.  However in your case we're not talking about a farm
situation are we?

Are these disks really failing, or are you seeing the software RAID driver
flag disks that aren't really going bad?  What make/model disk drives are
these that are apparently failing?  Do you have sufficient airflow in the case
to cool the drives?  Is the host in an environment with a constant ambient
temperature over 80 degrees Fahrenheit?

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where's udevinfo ?

[briand]

pretty much every tutorial out there refers to udevinfo.

the debian web search shows that it's in the udev unstable package, but
when I look at the list of files under udev, it's not present.

has it been replaced by something else ?

Thanks,

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Re: No sound from Flash, but other methods work well

[Paul Cartwright]

On Sat July 17 2010, Ron Johnson wrote:
> My Google-fu must not be up to snuff, because I've Googled much
> without any luck.
>
> USB Audio
> 32-bit Sid
> ALSA 1.0.23+dfsg-1
> Flash 10.1r53 (from adobe.com)
> Iceweasel 3.6.4-1 (experimental)
> vlc 1.1.0
> users are in group audio

here is what I have installed:
dpkg --list|grep flash
ii  adobe-flashplugin                                       10.0.32.18-1        
                 
Adobe Flash Player plugin version 10
ii  flashplugin-nonfree-extrasound                          0.0.svn2431-3       
                 
Adobe Flash Player platform support library for Esound and OSS

you might try installing them, or uninstalling/reinstalling..
but my iceweasel is only:

ii  iceweasel                                               3.0.6-3             
and LOTS of alsa:
ii  alsa-base                                               1.0.21+dfsg-2       
                 
ALSA driver configuration files
ii  alsa-firmware-loaders                                   1.0.22-1            
                 
ALSA software loaders for specific hardware
ii  alsa-modules-2.6.18-6-686                               
1.0.13-5etch1+2.6.18.dfsg.1-18etch3  ALSA modules for kernel 2.6.18-6-686
ii  alsa-source                                             1.0.21+dfsg-2       
                 
ALSA driver sources
ii  alsa-utils                                              1.0.22-1            
                 
Utilities for configuring and using ALSA
ii  alsamixergui                                            0.9.0rc2-1-9        
                 
graphical soundcard mixer for ALSA soundcard driver
ii  alsaplayer-alsa                                         0.99.80-5           
                 
PCM player designed for ALSA (ALSA output module)
ii  alsaplayer-common                                       0.99.80-5           
                 
PCM player designed for ALSA (common files)
ii  alsaplayer-gtk                                          0.99.80-5           
                 
PCM player designed for ALSA (GTK+ version)
ii  gstreamer0.10-alsa                                      0.10.19-2           
                 
GStreamer plugin for ALSA
ii  libpt-1.10.10-plugins-alsa                              1.10.10-3           
                 
Portable Windows Library Audio Plugin for the ALSA Interface
rc  libsdl1.2debian-alsa                                    1.2.13-2            
                 
Simple DirectMedia Layer (with X11 and ALSA options)
ii  libsox-fmt-alsa                                         14.0.1-2+b1         
                 
SoX alsa format I/O library
ii  libwine-alsa                                            1.0.1-2             
                 
Windows API implementation - ALSA sound module
ii  xfce4-mixer-alsa                                        4.4.2-3             
                 
Xfce4 Mixer ALSA backend

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Re: No sound from Flash, but other methods work well

[Ron Johnson]

On 07/17/2010 02:26 PM, Alan Chandler wrote:

On 17/07/10 19:02, Ron Johnson wrote:

Hi,

My Google-fu must not be up to snuff, because I've Googled much without
any luck.

USB Audio
32-bit Sid
ALSA 1.0.23+dfsg-1
Flash 10.1r53 (from adobe.com)
Iceweasel 3.6.4-1 (experimental)
vlc 1.1.0
users are in group audio

Sound plays fine from local sources but not from Flash/Iceweasel. (Yes,
Flash *video* works.)

Any thoughts on how to solve this would be much appreciated, since
otherwise my wife will insist on moving back to Windows.



Have you tried blacklisting the pcspeaker module. I think I had a
problem like this a while ago. For some reason alsa would find two sound
cards - the pcspeaker being one of them. It used the default (which just
happened to be the pcspeaker).



This is as it should be:

$ cat /proc/asound/cards
 0 [Device ]: USB-Audio - USB Audio Device
  Elite Silicon USB Audio Device at 
usb-:00:13.0-1, full speed

 1 [IXP]: ATIIXP - ATI IXP
  ATI IXP rev 80 with ALC658D at 0xfe02a000, irq 17


Otherwise, audio wouldn't work at all.

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Re: Debian way to essentially call block phone number

[Alan Chandler]

On 17/07/10 20:18, Alan Chandler wrote:
 The other, I don't have the exact name of

right now, but is a similar type of box to the PAP2T except one of the
ports connects to the old telephone network.


I found out - its an SPA3102.  This has one port for a phone, one port 
for a phone line, plus an ethernet port.  It has a built in web server 
which you use to configure it.


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Re: No sound from Flash, but other methods work well

[Ron Johnson]

On 07/17/2010 02:08 PM, Camaleón wrote:

On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 13:02:58 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:


My Google-fu must not be up to snuff, because I've Googled much without
any luck.

USB Audio
32-bit Sid
ALSA 1.0.23+dfsg-1
Flash 10.1r53 (from adobe.com)
Iceweasel 3.6.4-1 (experimental)
vlc 1.1.0
users are in group audio

Sound plays fine from local sources but not from Flash/Iceweasel. (Yes,
Flash *video* works.)

Any thoughts on how to solve this would be much appreciated, since
otherwise my wife will insist on moving back to Windows.


Maybe related to this?

***
Adobe Flash Player: does not produce audio on playback
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=565423
***


I don't have flashplugin-nonfree installed, and the correct device 
(USB-Audio) is the ALSA default.


$ cat /proc/asound/cards
 0 [Device ]: USB-Audio - USB Audio Device
  Elite Silicon USB Audio Device at 
usb-:00:13.0-1, full speed

 1 [IXP]: ATIIXP - ATI IXP
  ATI IXP rev 80 with ALC658D at 0xfe02a000, irq 17


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Re: No sound from Flash, but other methods work well

[Alan Chandler]

On 17/07/10 19:02, Ron Johnson wrote:

Hi,

My Google-fu must not be up to snuff, because I've Googled much without
any luck.

USB Audio
32-bit Sid
ALSA 1.0.23+dfsg-1
Flash 10.1r53 (from adobe.com)
Iceweasel 3.6.4-1 (experimental)
vlc 1.1.0
users are in group audio

Sound plays fine from local sources but not from Flash/Iceweasel. (Yes,
Flash *video* works.)

Any thoughts on how to solve this would be much appreciated, since
otherwise my wife will insist on moving back to Windows.

Thanks



Have you tried blacklisting the pcspeaker module.  I think I had a 
problem like this a while ago.  For some reason alsa would find two 
sound cards - the pcspeaker being one of them.  It used the default 
(which just happened to be the pcspeaker).


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Re: No sound from Flash, but other methods work well

[Paul Cartwright]

On Sat July 17 2010, Ron Johnson wrote:
> My Google-fu must not be up to snuff, because I've Googled much
> without any luck.
>
> USB Audio
> 32-bit Sid
> ALSA 1.0.23+dfsg-1
> Flash 10.1r53 (from adobe.com)
> Iceweasel 3.6.4-1 (experimental)
> vlc 1.1.0
> users are in group audio

here is what I have installed:
dpkg --list|grep flash
ii  adobe-flashplugin   10.0.32.18-1
 
Adobe Flash Player plugin version 10
ii  flashplugin-nonfree-extrasound  0.0.svn2431-3   
 
Adobe Flash Player platform support library for Esound and OSS

you might try installing them, or uninstalling/reinstalling..
but my iceweasel is only:

ii  iceweasel   3.0.6-3 
and LOTS of alsa:
ii  alsa-base   1.0.21+dfsg-2   
 
ALSA driver configuration files
ii  alsa-firmware-loaders   1.0.22-1
 
ALSA software loaders for specific hardware
ii  alsa-modules-2.6.18-6-686   
1.0.13-5etch1+2.6.18.dfsg.1-18etch3  ALSA modules for kernel 2.6.18-6-686
ii  alsa-source 1.0.21+dfsg-2   
 
ALSA driver sources
ii  alsa-utils  1.0.22-1
 
Utilities for configuring and using ALSA
ii  alsamixergui0.9.0rc2-1-9
 
graphical soundcard mixer for ALSA soundcard driver
ii  alsaplayer-alsa 0.99.80-5   
 
PCM player designed for ALSA (ALSA output module)
ii  alsaplayer-common   0.99.80-5   
 
PCM player designed for ALSA (common files)
ii  alsaplayer-gtk  0.99.80-5   
 
PCM player designed for ALSA (GTK+ version)
ii  gstreamer0.10-alsa  0.10.19-2   
 
GStreamer plugin for ALSA
ii  libpt-1.10.10-plugins-alsa  1.10.10-3   
 
Portable Windows Library Audio Plugin for the ALSA Interface
rc  libsdl1.2debian-alsa1.2.13-2
 
Simple DirectMedia Layer (with X11 and ALSA options)
ii  libsox-fmt-alsa 14.0.1-2+b1 
 
SoX alsa format I/O library
ii  libwine-alsa1.0.1-2 
 
Windows API implementation - ALSA sound module
ii  xfce4-mixer-alsa4.4.2-3 
 
Xfce4 Mixer ALSA backend

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Re: Debian way to essentially call block phone number

[Alan Chandler]

On 17/07/10 17:37, Mike Viau wrote:

Hello list,

I was wondering if anyone runs a system that essentially blocks unwanted
calls from a list of programmed phone numbers. I have the caller display
option on my phones service that returns the phone number of most
incoming calls.

I came across this idea after reading:

If you want to go the freebie route, you can download free software that
claims to block unwanted calls. This software works by hooking up your
phone to your computer and letting the software screen incoming calls.
Some of these downloads require you to have other hardware though. [1]

Is there a package in Debian I should be aware of, something I can run
on a personal computer? I was also considering designing embedded system
to do the job, but I cringe at the thought of integrating a POTS (Plain
Old Telephone System) modem in the embedded world.




I haven't got it set up right now, but in the past I have run 
freeswitch.  Its essentially a better package than asterisk.  You can 
download a .deb file from freeswitch.org.  You can configure it pretty 
easily to do almost anything you want.


I have some linksys boxes one of which takes standard phones and turns 
them into voip phones and the other of which will connect to a standard 
POTS line and convert the data from it into SIP traffic. PAP2T is the 
one that supports two phones.  The other, I don't have the exact name of 
right now, but is a similar type of box to the PAP2T except one of the 
ports connects to the old telephone network.


My guess is some combination of these might help.

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Re: Problem Replacing LVM on RAID1 Disk

[Alan Chandler]

On 17/07/10 09:11, Matthew Glubb wrote:

Hi All,

I have a problem replacing a failed disk with a LVM volume on a RAID1 array. 
Normally in the past when a disk has failed, I have dropped the offending disk 
from the array, replaced the disk, booted, rebuilt the filesystem on the new 
disk and re-synced the array. I've done this about four times with this method. 
However, I recently upgraded from Etch to Lenny. This week, I had a degraded 
array warning; a disk is failing.

So. I duly repeated the steps to replace the disk but on booting with the new 
unformatted disk, I get the following error:

"Alert! dev/mapper/vg00-lv01 does not exist ...
...Dropping to shell"

At the moment, I have had to reinstall the old, failing disk in order to be 
able to boot and run the system. Has anyone had this problem before? Does 
anyone know of any solution to it?

I've included the relevant disk/raid configuration at the end of this email. 
The device /dev/sdb is the one that is failing.



You don't include the one piece of information that shows that the 
volume group sits on the raid device.


Can you do either pvdisplay, or vgdisplay -v

Does it show the volume group sitting on raid device
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Re: No sound from Flash, but other methods work well

[Camaleón]

On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 13:02:58 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:

> My Google-fu must not be up to snuff, because I've Googled much without
> any luck.
> 
> USB Audio
> 32-bit Sid
> ALSA 1.0.23+dfsg-1
> Flash 10.1r53 (from adobe.com)
> Iceweasel 3.6.4-1 (experimental)
> vlc 1.1.0
> users are in group audio
> 
> Sound plays fine from local sources but not from Flash/Iceweasel. (Yes,
> Flash *video* works.)
> 
> Any thoughts on how to solve this would be much appreciated, since
> otherwise my wife will insist on moving back to Windows.

Maybe related to this?

***
Adobe Flash Player: does not produce audio on playback
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=565423
***

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Re: Synaptic / Could not download all repository indexes

[scar]

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Andrei Popescu @ 07/16/2010 11:57 PM:
> On Vi, 16 iul 10, 16:34:59, scar wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> when i try to check for updates with synaptic or the update manager, i
>> get that error above.  further information in the error message:
>>
>> http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/lenny/updates/main/source/Sources:
>> 404 Not Found [IP: 35.9.37.225 80]
> ... 
>> $ cat /etc/apt/sources.list
> ... 
>> deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main
>> deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ lenny/updates main
> ^^
> This one should be:
> 
> deb-src http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main

Thanks.  while i never manually edited the sources.list file, i did use
software-properties-gtk to "select best server" (Main tab, Download From
dropdown menu, Other, select best server button).  it seems like there
is a bug in that algorithm and i was able to reproduce it just now.

after correcting my sources.list with the line you provided and reloaded
my repositories, everything finished fine without any error.  then, i
went back to 'select best server' and, oddly, it picked a server in new
zealand, ftp.nz.debian.org.  i then checked my sources.list and it
looked like this:

$ cat /etc/apt/sources.list
# deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ lenny main

deb ftp://ftp.nz.debian.org/debian/ lenny main
deb-src ftp://ftp.nz.debian.org/debian/ lenny main

deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main
deb-src ftp://ftp.nz.debian.org/debian/ lenny/updates main

deb http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile lenny/volatile main
deb-src http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile lenny/volatile main

# Backported packages for Debian Lenny
deb http://www.backports.org/debian lenny-backports main contrib non-free
$

and, after checking for updates, i got the initial error again.
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Re: No sound from Flash, but other methods work well

[Kelly Clowers]

On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 11:02, Ron Johnson  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> My Google-fu must not be up to snuff, because I've Googled much without any
> luck.
>
> USB Audio
> 32-bit Sid
> ALSA 1.0.23+dfsg-1
> Flash 10.1r53 (from adobe.com)
> Iceweasel 3.6.4-1 (experimental)
> vlc 1.1.0
> users are in group audio
>
> Sound plays fine from local sources but not from Flash/Iceweasel. (Yes,
> Flash *video* works.)
>

Ah, Flash, one of the last two major realms of audio suckage (the other is
Wine, of course). I used to have that problem, and also sometimes Flash
audio working, but then nothing else would play.

Actually, I fixed it by using PulseAudio, but maybe you are one of those
against PA?

Of course, my Wine instance still refuses to play sound if any other audio
application is active (e.g. a music player playing or even a finished Flash
video, until you get rid of the Flash process).


Cheers,
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Re: [Solved ??? Please do not follow web resources without checking]: Scim and iceweasel

[Michelle Konzack]

Hello H.S.,

Am 2010-07-17 10:54:15, hacktest Du folgendes herunter:
> While asking for help in this thread, I was hoping that I would not
> need to hack around various config file to get scim working. Looking
> at the readme file also made me recall wondering in the past as to
> why the heck do the kind of things like the following still remain,
> "...There is one limitation in SCIM, that you must tell SCIM the
> UTF-8 locale you want to use SCIM in..." *Mus*t I? If I *must*, and
> this has been like this for quite a while, why can't the package
> installer just ask for a default locale during installation?

Because each user can have a different UTF-8 locale and seting it global
can habve nexpected results?

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Re: No sound from Flash, but other methods work well

[Ron Johnson]

On 07/17/2010 01:09 PM, Thierry Chatelet wrote:

On Saturday 17 July 2010 20:02:58 Ron Johnson wrote:

Hi,


Any thoughts on how to solve this would be much appreciated, since
otherwise my wife will insist on moving back to Windows.

Thanks


One solution will be to change your wife!!


Wanting to watch /Desperate Housewives/ at abc.com isn't really 
specific to her.


Besides, my kids want to watch YouTube and play Flash games, and 
trading them isn't really feasible.


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Re: No sound from Flash, but other methods work well

[Thierry Chatelet]

On Saturday 17 July 2010 20:02:58 Ron Johnson wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> 
> Any thoughts on how to solve this would be much appreciated, since
> otherwise my wife will insist on moving back to Windows.
> 
> Thanks

One solution will be to change your wife!!
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No sound from Flash, but other methods work well

[Ron Johnson]

Hi,

My Google-fu must not be up to snuff, because I've Googled much 
without any luck.


USB Audio
32-bit Sid
ALSA 1.0.23+dfsg-1
Flash 10.1r53 (from adobe.com)
Iceweasel 3.6.4-1 (experimental)
vlc 1.1.0
users are in group audio

Sound plays fine from local sources but not from Flash/Iceweasel. 
(Yes, Flash *video* works.)


Any thoughts on how to solve this would be much appreciated, since 
otherwise my wife will insist on moving back to Windows.


Thanks
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Re: Debian way to essentially call block phone number

[Camaleón]

On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 12:37:55 -0400, Mike Viau wrote:

> I was wondering if anyone runs a system that essentially blocks unwanted
> calls from a list of programmed phone numbers. I have the caller display
> option on my phones service that returns the phone number of most
> incoming calls.

(...)

Ah, you look for the "Holy Grail" that any sacrified user around the 
world is also seeking to reject/discard unwanted/spam telemarketing 
calls :-)

Well, I know there are some solutions (scripts or plugins) to achieve 
this for "VOIP" integrated solutions (such Asterisk) but I dunno if there 
is something similar for standalone applications :-?

Oh... look, a Google search returned this:

***
Telemarketing (Junk) Call Blocker
http://sourceforge.net/projects/jcblock/

Program: jcblock

Description:
A program to block telemarketing (junk) calls.

Description:
A program to block telemarketing (junk) calls.
This program connects to a serial port modem and listens for
the caller ID string that is sent between the first and second
rings. It records the string in file callerID.dat. It then
reads strings from file whitelist.dat and scans them against
the caller ID string for a match. If it finds a match it accepts
the call. If a match is not found, it reads strings from file
blacklist.dat and scans them against the caller ID string for a
match. If it finds a match to a string in the blacklist, it sends
an off-hook command (ATH1) to the modem, followed by an on-hook
command (ATH0). This terminates the junk call.
***

I have not tested but sounds very good :-)

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Fwd: kernel panic error

[Anand Sivaram]

On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 12:23, Andrei Popescu wrote:

> On Sb, 17 iul 10, 09:06:02, Anand Sivaram wrote:
> > >
> > It is necessary to use initrd image while using UUID.  So UUID method may
> > not work with custom kernels where drivers are compiled in.
>
> Could you please elaborate on that? How can UUID fail if you have
> modules compiled in the kernel, since UUID is a property of the
> filesystem?
>
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@Andrei,

Even if every driver is compiled into the kernel, an initrd may be required
to
use root=UUID=format.
That is what my experience too, finally I swithed to root=/dev/sda2
There are many suggestions that root=/dev/disk/by-uuid/
could be used instead without an initrd.

See the link,
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=61451

Re: kernel panic error

[Anand Sivaram]

On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 12:23, Andrei Popescu wrote:

> On Sb, 17 iul 10, 09:06:02, Anand Sivaram wrote:
> > >
> > It is necessary to use initrd image while using UUID.  So UUID method may
> > not work with custom kernels where drivers are compiled in.
>
> Could you please elaborate on that? How can UUID fail if you have
> modules compiled in the kernel, since UUID is a property of the
> filesystem?
>
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@Andrei,

Even if every driver is compiled into the kernel, an initrd may be required
to
use root=UUID=format.
That is what my experience too, finally I swithed to root=/dev/sda2
There are many suggestions that root=/dev/disk/by-uuid/
could be used instead without an initrd.

See the link,
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=61451

Debian way to essentially call block phone number

[Mike Viau]

Hello list,

I was wondering if anyone runs a system that essentially blocks unwanted calls 
from a list of programmed phone numbers. I have the caller display option on my 
phones service that returns the phone number of most incoming calls.

I came across this idea after reading:

If you want to go the freebie route, you can download free
software that claims to block unwanted calls. This software works by 
hooking up
your phone to your computer and letting the software screen incoming calls.
Some of these downloads require you to have other hardware though. [1]

Is there a package in Debian I should be aware of, something I can run on a 
personal computer? I was also considering designing embedded system to do the 
job, but I cringe at the thought of integrating a POTS (Plain Old Telephone 
System) modem in the embedded world.

Any help or further comments are welcomed :)

Thanks


[1] - http://communication.howstuffworks.com/blocking-incoming-call1.htm

  
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Re: Securely deleting *Windows* files (was Re: simple way to securely destroy deleted files in a file system)

[Christian Jaeger]

PS. and I personally would:

- either write a program that scans the partition for known fragments
of the files you want to be gone (perl with Sys::Mmap is an efficient
choice) to verify;
- or backup all good files from the partition, then overwriting the
block device, recreate the partition and copy the files back. You just
have to double check whether no Windows metadata is lost this way, I
don't know.

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Re: Securely deleting *Windows* files (was Re: simple way to securely destroy deleted files in a file system)

[Christian Jaeger]

Why calculate the sizes when you can just use cat until it stops
because the disk is full?

 cat /dev/zero > /mnt/yourfilesystem/thebigfile

BTW don't forget to proberly umount /mnt/yourfilesystem afterwards, of
course, to force a sync. (Just in case there might be a file system
that doesn't send the data immediately to the block device, you might
want to umount right after filling the disk, *before* removing the
file.)

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Re: help needed in installing 3G+ usb modem

[Christian Jaeger]

> Whenever I plug that modem in a usb slot, it first acts as if it was a mass
> storage device. Nothing wrong with this, have I been told : the data space
> contains programs for MSWIN install. The device must therefore be switched
> so as to be reckognized as a modem, which may be done using various means.
> You need "usb-modeswitch" and "comgt" packages. None of them were on my
> system, nor were they available in the 'Hardy' repositories, so I went
> fetching them as .deb packages meant for a more recent distro. They seemed
> to have installed flawlessly. However, I can't get any result.

Check my email "How to get Bell Canada 3G USB network up?" from july
9. I posted the script that works for my modem, maybe you can adapt it
for yours.

Although I'm still stuck trying to get ppp to work for my modem, I'm
now on my way trying HSO (feedback welcome).

Christian.


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Re: [Solved ??? Please do not follow web resources without checking]: Scim and iceweasel

[Kelly Clowers]

On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 07:54, H.S.  wrote:
> On 17/07/10 07:49 AM, Osamu Aoki wrote:
>>
>> Sourcing ~/.bashrc does not work for programs started by menu as I
>> understand.  So this is not the best solution.
>
> Isn't the file read when one logs in to a DE? That is what appears to be
> happening when I log in to KDE. Since I put those variables in ~/.bashrc,
> scim is working flawlessly for me. But this may be happening due my
> ~/.profile which sources .bashrc file. Sorry, I always get confused in these
> files intended order/situations of reading (including ~/.bash_profile).

.bash_profile is always read at login. .bashrc is often read at login as well,
due to being sourced in .bash_profile, but not all systems are set up this way.
.bashrc is read for every non-login shell that is started.

Currently, my ibus env setting are in /etc/X11/xinit/xinput.d/
I think ibus actually set them up itself, as I don't remember doing it (I set up
scim in /etc/profile, back when I used it, I think)


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Re: Alternative to snapshot.debian.net

[Sven Hoexter]

On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 02:37:21PM +, T o n g wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Since the snapshot.debian.net has stopped updating, is there any other 
> debian snapshot servers that I can use?

http://snapshot.debian.org/

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Re: [Solved ??? Please do not follow web resources without checking]: Scim and iceweasel

[H.S.]

On 17/07/10 07:49 AM, Osamu Aoki wrote:


Sourcing ~/.bashrc does not work for programs started by menu as I
understand.  So this is not the best solution.


Isn't the file read when one logs in to a DE? That is what appears to be 
happening when I log in to KDE. Since I put those variables in 
~/.bashrc, scim is working flawlessly for me. But this may be happening 
due my ~/.profile which sources .bashrc file. Sorry, I always get 
confused in these files intended order/situations of reading (including 
~/.bash_profile).


In any case, I should have mentioned this, the main point my posting of 
the solution was that in a newly installed system, apart from installing 
those methods I just had to set those variables. It doesn't matter how 
one sets those (perhaps in /etc/profile), but without setting those scim 
did not work for me.




We as Debian puts glue layer for user.  Although you have power to
override it, please do not advatize methods which break thigs for


Well, I don't think these kind of warnings really have any meaning when 
it comes to looking who posts what on the internet :)


Don't get me wrong, I know where you are coming from, but posting one's 
experience, even if it may come from off beat path or from unusual 
recommendations, is really what makes the internet what it is: highly 
inaccurate, extremely helpful and quite interesting. What a mix!



Debian.  There are many documentation in /usr/share/doc/scim and
/usr/share/doc/skim .  Please read them.  If they are wrong, please file
bug report.


Thank you for pointing this out. Yes, I do refer to those docs. Didn't 
for this particular situation this time though. I looked them up again. 
They are excellent. To the future reader, to get scim working, the most 
important sections are "Locales" and "Using Scim" in 
/usr/share/doc/scim/README.Debian.gz.


While asking for help in this thread, I was hoping that I would not need 
to hack around various config file to get scim working. Looking at the 
readme file also made me recall wondering in the past as to why the heck 
do the kind of things like the following still remain, "...There is one 
limitation in SCIM, that you must tell SCIM the UTF-8 locale you want to 
use SCIM in..." *Mus*t I? If I *must*, and this has been like this for 
quite a while, why can't the package installer just ask for a default 
locale during installation?


And reading the file further is liable it make a causal user confused as 
to what method to choose. After some years of my first having read the 
file, nothing seems to have changed in this regard. I wonder how Ubuntu 
does this. Do they also want users editing system files after choosing 
one of the various options listed in the docs? Browsing the internet a 
bit, i looks like they solved the problem from Ubuntu 8.10 and beyond.



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Alternative to snapshot.debian.net

[T o n g]

Hi,

Since the snapshot.debian.net has stopped updating, is there any other 
debian snapshot servers that I can use?

Thanks

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Re: replacement for webcalendar

[Miles Fidelman]

Camaleón wrote:

On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 23:07:51 -0400, john wrote:

   

Webcalendar has been removed from squeeze and above. Can anyone suggest
a similar replacement?

I used it on a small local network for family type appointments, at
home.
 

"Webcalendar" is still able to download from upstream, why not use it :-?

Being a php app, I'd expect the installation and/or update be
straightfoward, involving a few steps as placing the files where
webserver can found them and launching the wizard template.
   

I've always installed webcalendar from upstream.  It's pretty trivial.

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Re: When is best time to upgrade lenny to squeeze

[Jesús M. Navarro]

Johnny:

On Wednesday 14 July 2010 17:52:57 Johnny wrote:
> Hi
> I am sorry if someone has already has asked this ? on the list
> When is best time to upgrade from lenny to squeeze.
> I use my computer daily

What do you mean by "best"?  Maybe what is "best" for you is not "best" for 
others.

That's the real concern.

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[Solved ??? Please do not follow web resources without checking]: Scim and iceweasel

[Osamu Aoki]

Hi,

There are many ways to solve issues.

On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 01:17:22AM -0400, H.S. wrote:
> > Now I have the skim applet on my KDE panel but I am not able to switch
> > the languages. I have done no other modifications in any files though. I
> > was hoping that using scim (in KDE, using skim?) would be quite
> > straightforward. Could you show some insights on how to get it to work
> > in KDE, hopefully without having to edit any text files?

You should install im-switch or im-config to get easier time
configuring.  I admit new im-config needs update to cover skim but
installing im-switch should give you configuration. Then follow
documentation in /usr/share/doc/im-switch/
 
> On a newly installed amd64 Testing system, it was quite simple to get
> scim working in KDE.
...
> STEP 2:
> Next, based on
> http://lorenzod8n.wordpress.com/2008/01/17/setting-up-scim-on-debian/, I
> put these lines in my ~/.bashrc:
> #for scim
> export XMODIFIERS='@im=SCIM'
> export GTK_IM_MODULE="scim"
> export QT_IM_MODULE="scim"

Sourcing ~/.bashrc does not work for programs started by menu as I
understand.  So this is not the best solution.  

We as Debian puts glue layer for user.  Although you have power to
override it, please do not advatize methods which break thigs for
Debian.  There are many documentation in /usr/share/doc/scim and
/usr/share/doc/skim .  Please read them.  If they are wrong, please file
bug report.

Thanks.

Osamu -- scim and im-switch packager ..


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Re: replacement for webcalendar

[Camaleón]

On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 23:07:51 -0400, john wrote:

> Webcalendar has been removed from squeeze and above. Can anyone suggest
> a similar replacement?
> 
> I used it on a small local network for family type appointments, at
> home.

"Webcalendar" is still able to download from upstream, why not use it :-?

Being a php app, I'd expect the installation and/or update be 
straightfoward, involving a few steps as placing the files where 
webserver can found them and launching the wizard template.

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Re: Debian virus/spy-ware detection and detection technique.

[Camaleón]

On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 14:06:58 +0700, Sthu Deus wrote:

> I have 3 questions on virus/spy-ware detection and detection technique.

He, sounds like a test...
 
> 1. Which software (may that is even packaged for Debian) is the best at
> Your opinion and why for virus/spy-ware (the software that scans for
> interesting data and sends it to some host) detection?

- For scanning/detecting virus/malware for Windows systems or linux 
systems?

- For local scanning (e-mails, Internet browsing) or a bunch of network 
share files?

- By "(sic) and sends it to some host" you mean "keep the admin informed 
by sending an alert to a host" or you mean "collaborative tools to 
benefit others"?

> 2. What's the technique of scanning for the malicious software? - As I
> can understand it should be absolutely trustworthy and at the same time
> - up-to-date (the bases it uses) - so, should I have a separate HDD for
>   the goal that stands most the time separately (on a shelf), updating
>   alone in computer, then again removed and being used only as a primary
>   disk for scanning attached disks - as the secondary? Or there is more
>   easy to perform way of accomplishing this?

Not sure what OS we are talking here...

If you want to assure a true clean environment, better reformat and start 
from scratch. As soon as you plug the disk in a network (or via USB port 
to an infected machine) data on it can be also compromised.
 
> 3. Is it possible to scan for this very purposes (virus & spy-ware) the
> distro CD/DVD -s - as it is from the media, without explicit manual
> unpacking - to be sure the software is OK (in case when check sums are
> not available OR it is impossible for some reasons to re-download the
> images)?

I think yes. Many AV scanners will scan ISO files (no "unpacking" 
required) but that depends on the AV engine itself.

But (and I think this is important) when you scan and ISO file for 
malware and the result is clean/passed, that is not proving the ISO image 
could have been manipulated and/or changed. Checksum (or similiar 
techniques) is a must. 

...

Final words: In general, I do not trust AV scanners so much, neither for 
Windows nor other OS. They are still basing their detection score on 
rather older techniques (stock antimalware firm definition files). Any 
good designed OS has to have its own defenses... and the user has to be 
always alert.

> Thank You for Your time.

I hope I've passed the test :-P

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Re: Debian virus/spy-ware detection and detection technique.

[Jordon Bedwell]

On Sb, 17 iul 10, 14:06:58, Sthu Deus wrote:
> Good day.
>
> I have 3 questions on virus/spy-ware detection and detection technique.
> 

If you must because of incoming mail try using ClamAV. Which a lot of
servers are readily able to integrate and unless you're dumb enough (and
this is just a subjective opinion) to allow elevated privileges without
knowing what the program is, or you run as root, you won't run into any
problems (normally ~ lets not forget the possible potential security
hole ~ it's happened before) with something jacking your system.  Even
though Linux is open too, if it's in the repo somebody manages it, so
you can always assume that software found in official repositories is safe.

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Problem Replacing LVM on RAID1 Disk

[Matthew Glubb]

Hi All,

I have a problem replacing a failed disk with a LVM volume on a RAID1 array. 
Normally in the past when a disk has failed, I have dropped the offending disk 
from the array, replaced the disk, booted, rebuilt the filesystem on the new 
disk and re-synced the array. I've done this about four times with this method. 
However, I recently upgraded from Etch to Lenny. This week, I had a degraded 
array warning; a disk is failing.

So. I duly repeated the steps to replace the disk but on booting with the new 
unformatted disk, I get the following error:

"Alert! dev/mapper/vg00-lv01 does not exist ... 
...Dropping to shell"

At the moment, I have had to reinstall the old, failing disk in order to be 
able to boot and run the system. Has anyone had this problem before? Does 
anyone know of any solution to it?

I've included the relevant disk/raid configuration at the end of this email. 
The device /dev/sdb is the one that is failing.

Thanks very much,


Matt

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# cat /etc/fstab 
# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
#
proc/proc   procdefaults0   0
/dev/mapper/vg00-lv01 /   ext3defaults,errors=remount-ro 0  
 1
/dev/md0/boot   ext3defaults0   2
/dev/mapper/vg00-lv00 noneswapsw  0   0
/dev/fd0/media/floppy0  autorw,user,noauto  0   0

#df -h
FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/mapper/vg00-lv01
  442G   80G  340G  20% /
tmpfs 1.7G 0  1.7G   0% /lib/init/rw
udev   10M  720K  9.3M   8% /dev
tmpfs 1.7G 0  1.7G   0% /dev/shm
/dev/md0  942M   46M  849M   6% /boot

# cat /proc/mdstat 
Personalities : [raid1] 
md1 : active raid1 sda2[0]
  478512000 blocks [2/1] [U_]
  
md0 : active raid1 sda1[0]
  979840 blocks [2/1] [U_]
  
# lvdisplay /dev/mapper/vg00-lv01
  --- Logical volume ---
  LV Name/dev/vg00/lv01
  VG Namevg00
  LV UUIDtvzjKH-hSpH-sDYk-YlWY-osUY-VxrA-ka2UCW
  LV Write Accessread/write
  LV Status  available
  # open 1
  LV Size448.34 GB
  Current LE 114776
  Segments   1
  Allocation inherit
  Read ahead sectors auto
  - currently set to 256
  Block device   253:1

The next one is swap space:

# lvdisplay /dev/mapper/vg00-lv00
  --- Logical volume ---
  LV Name/dev/vg00/lv00
  VG Namevg00
  LV UUIDaosfiq-oBUr-70Xn-Y5OJ-lsSV-i59V-nTXJG6
  LV Write Accessread/write
  LV Status  available
  # open 2
  LV Size8.00 GB
  Current LE 2048
  Segments   1
  Allocation inherit
  Read ahead sectors auto
  - currently set to 256
  Block device   253:0

# fdisk -l

Disk /dev/sda: 750.1 GB, 750156374016 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 91201 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x

   Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sda1   *   1 122  979933+  fd  Linux raid autodetect
/dev/sda2 123   59694   478512090   fd  Linux raid autodetect

Disk /dev/sdb: 750.1 GB, 750156374016 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 91201 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x

   Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sdb1   *   1 122  979933+  fd  Linux raid autodetect
/dev/sdb2 123   59694   478512090   fd  Linux raid autodetect



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Re: Debian virus/spy-ware detection and detection technique.

[Andrei Popescu]

On Sb, 17 iul 10, 14:06:58, Sthu Deus wrote:
> Good day.
> 
> I have 3 questions on virus/spy-ware detection and detection technique.

[snip]

This has been discussed several times, but IMVHO the time and resources 
invested in scanning for malware on Debian are better used in securing 
the system.

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Re: Re: How to reread changed udev rules without rebooting?

[jaan vaart]

udevadm trigger perhaps?

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Re: simple way to securely destroy deleted files in a file system

[Andre Majorel]

On 2010-07-16 23:43 +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> On Vi, 16 iul 10, 21:03:42, Andre Majorel wrote:
> 
> >   perl -e '$bytes = int (1e4 + 1e6 * rand);
> > for $n (1..$bytes) { $noise .= chr (int (rand (256))) }
> > while (print $noise) {}' >/mnt/sdc1/zeros.bin; sync
> 
> dd if=/dev/random of=/bigfile_to_fill_the_disk
> 
> (or /dev/urandom if /dev/random is too slow)

You could do that, but why would you want to ? /dev/urandom is way
too slow to saturate a disk.

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Debian virus/spy-ware detection and detection technique.

[Sthu Deus]

Good day.

I have 3 questions on virus/spy-ware detection and detection technique.

1. Which software (may that is even packaged for Debian) is the best at
Your opinion and why for virus/spy-ware (the software that scans for
interesting data and sends it to some host) detection?

2. What's the technique of scanning for the malicious software? - As I
can understand it should be absolutely trustworthy and at the same time
- up-to-date (the bases it uses) - so, should I have a separate HDD for
  the goal that stands most the time separately (on a shelf), updating
  alone in computer, then again removed and being used only as a
  primary disk for scanning attached disks - as the secondary? Or there
  is more easy to perform way of accomplishing this?

3. Is it possible to scan for this very purposes (virus & spy-ware) the
distro CD/DVD -s - as it is from the media, without explicit manual
unpacking - to be sure the software is OK (in case when check sums are
not available OR it is impossible for some reasons to re-download the
images)?

Thank You for Your time.


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