Re: Per a la posteritat ...

2010-07-18 Thread Xavier De Yzaguirre i Maura
Va ser una vetllada molt agradable i em vareu fer sentir com si fes molt
que ens coneguéssim.
Gràcies serni i Santa Susanna, per l'acolliment, i gràcies a tots els
altres, Hubble, Orestes, Lluís, Eva i Xavi per la vetllada.
A partir de l'ú d'agost podré mirar sols un cop a la setmana el correu,
però no descarto si s'en programa una per el 16 (dl. crec) poder-mi
apropar.
Fins a la propera sempre ens queda l'amic Debian i la llista.

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Re: pb sid dvd

2010-07-18 Thread François Cerbelle
Le Sunday 18 Jul 2010 à 03:52:08 (+0200), Jean-Yves F. Barbier a écrit :
 Salut liste,
 depuis qq jours ma sid s'amuse à monter les DVDz sur:
 /media/titre_du_dvd au lieu de les monter sur /media/cdrom0|1
 qqun sait-il où fixer ça parce que c'est gonflant?!

Salut,

Es tu bien sûr qu'elle n'a pas toujours fait ça ? Je n'utilise pas SID,
mais il me semble que le média est monté dans un répertoire portant le
nom du label du FS monté, ce qui correspond à ce que tu dis, mais qu'un
lien symbolique est créé du style (cdrom0 - titre_du_dvd). Ce serait
peut etre ce lien uniquement qui manquerait.

Mais je n'utilise pas SID, ce n'est qu'une idée.

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icedove : pas de nouveaux messages au lancement

2010-07-18 Thread Manu

Bonjour,

Avec Icedove, au démarrage de celui-ci, je n'ai pas de nouveaux 
messages. Pourtant, cette option est cochée dans les paramètres du serveur.

Bref, ça ne marche pas. Je suis tout seul ?


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Re: pb sid dvd

2010-07-18 Thread Jean-Yves F. Barbier

Le 18/07/2010 09:03, François Cerbelle a écrit :

Le Sunday 18 Jul 2010 à 03:52:08 (+0200), Jean-Yves F. Barbier a écrit :

Salut liste,
depuis qq jours ma sid s'amuse à monter les DVDz sur:
/media/titre_du_dvd au lieu de les monter sur /media/cdrom0|1
qqun sait-il où fixer ça parce que c'est gonflant?!


Salut,

Es tu bien sûr qu'elle n'a pas toujours fait ça ? Je n'utilise pas SID,


Nan, et pour cause: je monte sur un micro et je passe par samba pour lire
sur un autre; d'où le côté gonflant: mnt il faut que je retouche le symlink
à chaque nouveau montage.

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Re: pb sid dvd

2010-07-18 Thread ~TraydenT~
 Le 18/07/2010 12:39, Jean-Yves F. Barbier a écrit :
 Le 18/07/2010 09:03, François Cerbelle a écrit :
 Le Sunday 18 Jul 2010 à 03:52:08 (+0200), Jean-Yves F. Barbier a écrit :
 Salut liste,
Bonjour,
 depuis qq jours ma sid s'amuse à monter les DVDz sur:
 /media/titre_du_dvd au lieu de les monter sur /media/cdrom0|1
 qqun sait-il où fixer ça parce que c'est gonflant?!

 Salut,

 Es tu bien sûr qu'elle n'a pas toujours fait ça ? Je n'utilise pas SID,

 Nan, et pour cause: je monte sur un micro et je passe par samba pour lire
 sur un autre; d'où le côté gonflant: mnt il faut que je retouche le
 symlink
 à chaque nouveau montage.

Mettre une entrée dans le fstab pour le montage de /dev/sr0 ou
/dev/cdrom0 permet de «corriger» ce problème. C'est en fait pour rester
cohérent avec le système de montage des clés USB je pense qui se font
dans /media/nom du périphérique.

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Re: pb sid dvd

2010-07-18 Thread Jean-Yves F. Barbier

Le 18/07/2010 14:14, ~TraydenT~ a écrit :

Mettre une entrée dans le fstab pour le montage de /dev/sr0 ou
/dev/cdrom0 permet de «corriger» ce problème. C'est en fait pour rester
cohérent avec le système de montage des clés USB je pense qui se font
dans /media/nom du périphérique.


les entrées cdromN existent; mais effectivement je n'avais pas vu que mnt
c'est srN; je teste.  


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Re: pb sid dvd

2010-07-18 Thread Jean-Yves F. Barbier

Le 18/07/2010 14:14, ~TraydenT~ a écrit :
...

Mettre une entrée dans le fstab pour le montage de /dev/sr0 ou
/dev/cdrom0 permet de «corriger» ce problème. C'est en fait pour rester
cohérent avec le système de montage des clés USB je pense qui se font
dans /media/nom du périphérique.


Ok merci, c'était bien ça.

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Re: HS Convertir du texte encodé UTF8 en son c aractère représenté (et son inverse)

2010-07-18 Thread daniel huhardeaux

Le 17/07/2010 19:06, Sylvain Sauvage a écrit :

Bonsoir

j'ai le texte suivant dans le corps d'une courriel


R=C3=A9sultat =C3=A0 la m=C3=AAme =C3=A9tag=C3=A8re


et aimerai le récupérer dans une variable dans son format lisible soit


Résultat à la même étagère


iconv ne fait rien, quelles autres solutions seraient susceptibles de
convenir?
 

   Quoted-printable n’est pas un charset, c’est une « surface ».
Donc paquet recode :

   recode u8/QP..u8
ou, en long :
   recode UTF-8/Quoted-Printable..UTF-8/

   Ici : prend l’entrée en « UTF-8/qp » et transforme « .. » en
« UTF-8[/défaut pour UTF-8] ».
   


Et si je veux revenir à la représentation UTF8, soit donc après un 
recode retrouver


R=C3=A9sultat =C3=A0 la m=C3=AAme =C3=A9tag=C3=A8re

quelle est la manipulation?

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Re: HS Convertir du texte encodé UTF8 en son caractère représenté (et son inverse)

2010-07-18 Thread Jean-Sébastien Kroll-Rabotin
 Et si je veux revenir à la représentation UTF8, soit donc après un 
 recode retrouver
 
 R=C3=A9sultat =C3=A0 la m=C3=AAme =C3=A9tag=C3=A8re
 
 quelle est la manipulation?
 

En suivant les informations données par Daniel Huhardeaux :

recode UTF-8..UTF-8/Quoted-Printable

C’est aussi simple que ça.


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Re: HS Convertir du texte encodé UTF8 en son caractère représenté (et son inverse)

2010-07-18 Thread Sylvain Sauvage
daniel huhardeaux, dimanche 18 juillet 2010, 19:33:23 CEST
 
 Le 17/07/2010 19:06, Sylvain Sauvage a écrit :
 
 Bonsoir

’soir,

[…]
 Quoted-printable n’est pas un charset, c’est une « surface ».
  Donc paquet recode :
 
 recode u8/QP..u8
  ou, en long :
 recode UTF-8/Quoted-Printable..UTF-8/
 
 Ici : prend l’entrée en « UTF-8/qp » et transforme « .. » en
  « UTF-8[/défaut pour UTF-8] ».
 
 
 Et si je veux revenir à la représentation UTF8,

  Ce n’est pas une « représentation UTF-8 », c’est un codage (ce
que recode appelle une surface) pour représenter des octets en
n’utilisant que des octets de valeur inférieure à 128.
  Il se trouve que, dans ton exemple, les dits octets codent de
l’UTF-8, mais ça peut être n’importe quel encodage (latin-1,
windows-1252, LaTeX…).
  Et le codage peut être « rien » (ou « par défaut », qui se dit
'' ou '/'), base64 ('/b64'), octal ('/o')…

  Pour résumer les termes :
– Unicode : jeu de caractères, donne un n° à chaque caractère
  (et un peu plus) ;
— UTF-8 : [format de] codage de caractères, définit comment
  représenter Unicode avec des octets ;
– Quoted-Printable : [format de] codage de données, définit
  comment représenter des octets avec des octets de valeur
  inférieure à 128.

 soit donc après un 
 recode retrouver
 
 R=C3=A9sultat =C3=A0 la m=C3=AAme =C3=A9tag=C3=A8re
 
 quelle est la manipulation?

  C’est simplement l’inverse : 'recode u8..u8/qp' (ou simplement
'../qp' pour conserver les valeurs par défaut locales).
Les '..' sont la séparation entre la source et la cible.

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Re: HS Convertir du texte encodé UTF8 en son c aractère représenté (et son inverse)

2010-07-18 Thread daniel huhardeaux

Le 18/07/2010 21:17, Jean-Sébastien Kroll-Rabotin a écrit :

Et si je veux revenir à la représentation UTF8, soit donc après un
recode retrouver

R=C3=A9sultat =C3=A0 la m=C3=AAme =C3=A9tag=C3=A8re

quelle est la manipulation?

 

En suivant les informations données par Daniel Huhardeaux :
   


Petite erreur, c'est Sylvain Sauvage qui avait répondu, moi je n'ai fait 
que poser la question ;-) Rendons à César ce qui lui appartient :-)

recode UTF-8..UTF-8/Quoted-Printable

C’est aussi simple que ça.
   


Effectivement, merci.
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VPN Checkpoint

2010-07-18 Thread Mourad Jaber

Bonsoir,

Je cherche à me connecter d'une debian testing à un VPN checkpoint...

Je ne trouve pas de client linux alors qu'il est sensé exister... Et 
donc je cherche un alternative libre pour se connecter !


Est-ce que quelqu'un aurait un idée ?

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Re: HS Convertir du texte encodé UTF8 en son c aractère représenté (et son inverse)

2010-07-18 Thread daniel huhardeaux

Le 18/07/2010 21:26, Sylvain Sauvage a écrit :

[…]

Quoted-printable n’est pas un charset, c’est une « surface ».
Donc paquet recode :

recode u8/QP..u8
ou, en long :
recode UTF-8/Quoted-Printable..UTF-8/

Ici : prend l’entrée en « UTF-8/qp » et transforme « .. » en
« UTF-8[/défaut pour UTF-8] ».

   

Et si je veux revenir à la représentation UTF8,
 

   Ce n’est pas une « représentation UTF-8 », c’est un codage (ce
que recode appelle une surface) pour représenter des octets en
n’utilisant que des octets de valeur inférieure à 128.
   Il se trouve que, dans ton exemple, les dits octets codent de
l’UTF-8, mais ça peut être n’importe quel encodage (latin-1,
windows-1252, LaTeX…).
   Et le codage peut être « rien » (ou « par défaut », qui se dit
'' ou '/'), base64 ('/b64'), octal ('/o')…

   Pour résumer les termes :
– Unicode : jeu de caractères, donne un n° à chaque caractère
   (et un peu plus) ;
— UTF-8 : [format de] codage de caractères, définit comment
   représenter Unicode avec des octets ;
– Quoted-Printable : [format de] codage de données, définit
   comment représenter des octets avec des octets de valeur
   inférieure à 128.
   


OK, c'est là ou je me perds. Pour moi UTF est de l'unicode or c'est la 
représentation de l'unicode à tes dires.



soit donc après un
recode retrouver

R=C3=A9sultat =C3=A0 la m=C3=AAme =C3=A9tag=C3=A8re

quelle est la manipulation?
 

   C’est simplement l’inverse : 'recode u8..u8/qp' (ou simplement
'../qp' pour conserver les valeurs par défaut locales).
Les '..' sont la séparation entre la source et la cible.
   


Oui, c' est bien cela.

Pour information, mon problème est la gestion des SMS: j'ai développé ma 
passerelle mail2SMS sur laquelle je me suis rendu compte que les SMS à 
l'arrivée n'affichaient pas les lettres accentuées, elles sont soit 
remplacées par des espaces, soit affichées par la surface (codage) :-(


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[testing] Gnucash et point du clavier numérique

2010-07-18 Thread Gaëtan PERRIER
Bonjour,

Depuis quelques temps (je ne sais pas exactement quand) le point du clavier
numérique ne fonctionne plus dans Gnucash. Avant il faisait une virgule.
Maintenant, plus rien, même pas le point.
Une idée de la cause de ce changement?

Gaëtan

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Re: HS Convertir du texte encodé UTF8 en son caractère représenté (et son inverse)

2010-07-18 Thread François TOURDE
Le 14808ième jour après Epoch,
daniel huhardeaux écrivait:

 Le 18/07/2010 21:26, Sylvain Sauvage a écrit :
 […]
 Quoted-printable n’est pas un charset, c’est une « surface ».
 Donc paquet recode :

 recode u8/QP..u8
 ou, en long :
 recode UTF-8/Quoted-Printable..UTF-8/

 Ici : prend l’entrée en « UTF-8/qp » et transforme « .. » en
 « UTF-8[/défaut pour UTF-8] ».


 Et si je veux revenir à la représentation UTF8,
  
Ce n’est pas une « représentation UTF-8 », c’est un codage (ce
 que recode appelle une surface) pour représenter des octets en
 n’utilisant que des octets de valeur inférieure à 128.
Il se trouve que, dans ton exemple, les dits octets codent de
 l’UTF-8, mais ça peut être n’importe quel encodage (latin-1,
 windows-1252, LaTeX…).
Et le codage peut être « rien » (ou « par défaut », qui se dit
 '' ou '/'), base64 ('/b64'), octal ('/o')…

Pour résumer les termes :
 – Unicode : jeu de caractères, donne un n° à chaque caractère
(et un peu plus) ;
 — UTF-8 : [format de] codage de caractères, définit comment
représenter Unicode avec des octets ;
 – Quoted-Printable : [format de] codage de données, définit
comment représenter des octets avec des octets de valeur
inférieure à 128.


 OK, c'est là ou je me perds. Pour moi UTF est de l'unicode or c'est la
 représentation de l'unicode à tes dires.

UTF c'est l'unicode. Après, tu peux décider de le transmettre tel quel,
ou bien de l'encoder en Base64, ou en Quoted-printable (c'est ton cas).

Il faut différencier l'encodage des caractères, et leur mode de
transport, ou surface pour recode.

 Pour information, mon problème est la gestion des SMS: j'ai développé
 ma passerelle mail2SMS sur laquelle je me suis rendu compte que les
 SMS à l'arrivée n'affichaient pas les lettres accentuées, elles sont
 soit remplacées par des espaces, soit affichées par la surface
 (codage) :-(

Je pense que dans ton cas, ça doit dépendre de ce que les terminaux
savent gérer, mais je ne suis pas sûr. Il faudrait que tu te procures
les spécifications claires des SMS, car vu que les terminaux
(téléphones) sont vendus dans plein de pays UTF8, ils doivent être
capables d'afficher ce que tu veux.

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skype squeeze webcam

2010-07-18 Thread Ricardo Delgado
Gente, buenas, estoy teniendo problemas con mi webcam, esta configurada y 
funcionando con cheese, el problema surge con skype.

 No me detecta la camara, aunque si me muestra el dispositivo.

En un momento lo habia solucionado con un script tomado de la web

#!/bin/sh
cd /usr/bin
if [ -n /usr/bin ]; then
if [ ${LD_LIBRARY_PATH+set} = set ]; then
export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=${LD_LIBRARY_PATH}:/usr/bin
else
export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/bin
fi
fi
LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so exec /usr/bin/skype $@

Luego, no funciona mas, o sea abre bien skype y conecta pero al 
tratar de activar la webcam se cierra.


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Re: skype squeeze webcam

2010-07-18 Thread Sergio
Perdón Ricardo se me fue a tu privado, (esta bendita configuración de la 
lista de Debian...!!) Reenvío a la lista


Sergio escribió:

Ricardo Delgado escribió:
Gente, buenas, estoy teniendo problemas con mi webcam, esta 
configurada y funcionando con cheese, el problema surge con skype.


  No me detecta la camara, aunque si me muestra el dispositivo.

En un momento lo habia solucionado con un script tomado de la web

#!/bin/sh
cd /usr/bin
if [ -n /usr/bin ]; then
 if [ ${LD_LIBRARY_PATH+set} = set ]; then
 export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=${LD_LIBRARY_PATH}:/usr/bin
 else
 export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/bin
 fi
fi
LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so exec /usr/bin/skype $@

 Luego, no funciona mas, o sea abre bien skype y conecta 
pero al tratar de activar la webcam se cierra.



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A mí me pasó algo similar. Descargué Skype desde su página oficial y 
lo descomprimí en /opt Arreglé los disparadores en los menús y 
solucionado el tema. La versión oficial de Skype me reconoció audio y 
video sin problemas en Testing


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Re: skype squeeze webcam

2010-07-18 Thread José Gregorio Díaz Unda
Saludos ricardo.

Me sucedió algo parecido y al final mi conclusión fue que la última versión de 
skype tiene problemas con v4l.

Lo que hice fue instalar una versión anterior y voilá! ... Funcionó perfecto.

Por cierto que el .deb que está en el repo debian de skype.com no me funcionó. 
Esta es la ùltima versión.

La única diferencia perceptible entre la última versión y otras anteriores es 
que no viene incorporada la función de compartir el escritorio, pero eso no me 
quitó el sueño para nada.

Espero haberte ayudado.

éxitos!

José Gregorio.


Enviado desde mi dispositivo movil BlackBerry® de Digitel.

-Original Message-
From: Ricardo Delgado ricardodelgad...@yahoo.com.ar
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 16:12:40 
To: debian.listadebian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org
Subject: skype squeeze webcam

Gente, buenas, estoy teniendo problemas con mi webcam, esta configurada y 
funcionando con cheese, el problema surge con skype.

 No me detecta la camara, aunque si me muestra el dispositivo.

En un momento lo habia solucionado con un script tomado de la web

#!/bin/sh
cd /usr/bin
if [ -n /usr/bin ]; then
if [ ${LD_LIBRARY_PATH+set} = set ]; then
export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=${LD_LIBRARY_PATH}:/usr/bin
else
export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/bin
fi
fi
LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so exec /usr/bin/skype $@

Luego, no funciona mas, o sea abre bien skype y conecta pero al 
tratar de activar la webcam se cierra.


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[ITT] po-debconf://ssl-cert/pt_BR.po

2010-07-18 Thread Flamarion Jorge
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Re: [ITT] po-debconf://ssl-cert/pt_BR.po

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dhcp - master e slave

2010-07-18 Thread Caio Abreu Ferreira
Lista

No DNS/Bins é possivel ter uma configuração master/slave. Se por
acaso o Master é desativado, o Slave assume as funções do Master. Alguém
saberia me dizer se é possivel fazer algo parecido com o dhcp? Em uma rede
existir dois servidores dhcp, um master e um slave.

Obrigado

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gerenciamento de dispositivos

2010-07-18 Thread Frederico Martins
Oi Lista , Boa Noite !

Eu preciso de informações de como gerenciar dispositivos no Linux , se os
módulos na versão do kernel 2.4 são os mesmo na versão 2.6 ,
como criar módulo para comunicações usb-serial , como usar o udev mais
profissionalmente .

Alguém pode indicar sites úteis relacionados a esse assunto ?

Desde já agradeço

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Re: Antivirus

2010-07-18 Thread Sergio Luiz
www.clamav.net

existe a versão para Linux e Windows.

Para linux o clamav é muito utilizado rodando junto com scanner de e-mail e
também como scanner de arquivos no Samba.

No Windows funciona bem também.

Sérgio

Em 16 de julho de 2010 17:34, DIEGO MONTE diego.smo...@gmail.com escreveu:

 Galera,

 Alguem sabe se existe algum anti-virus opensource que possa ser instalado
 no server linux(Samba) com cliente nas estações e que baixe a atualização no
 servidor disponibilizando para as demais máquinas?



 Valeu!
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Re: OpenVPN

2010-07-18 Thread André Luiz Fraga Moreira
Verifique os logs em /var/log/openvpn/openvpn.log. Se o firewall não está 
bloqueando, pode ser algum erro na negociação das chaves.

On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 19:45:24 -0300
Vinicius De Mario deb...@git.eti.br wrote:

 Em 17-07-2010 18:50, gunix escreveu:
  Galera,
 
  tenho dois server debian rodando com openvpn para ligar os dois.
  Porem derrepente hoje pela manhã a vpn entre os dois servidores 
  pararam de funcionar.
 
  Alguem pode me ajudar a identificar o problema?
 
  Os dois lados startam sem problemas algum, sem erros.
  Criei uma nova chame e mesmo assim nao vai.
 
  Tudo UP sem funcionar.
  Liberei o firewall e mesmo assim nada.
 
  Se alguem tiver uma dica agradeço.
 
  att
  Gunix
 Bom, antes de mais nada, verifique os logs tanto do cliente como do 
 servidor nos arquivos /var/log/syslog de ambas as maquinas.
 
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Re: [Solved ??? Please do not follow web resources without checking]: Scim and iceweasel

2010-07-18 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 13:55, Osamu Aoki os...@debian.org wrote:
 Hi,

 On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 08:56:13AM -0700, Kelly Clowers wrote:
 On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 07:54, H.S. hs.sa...@gmail.com wrote:
  On 17/07/10 07:49 AM, Osamu Aoki wrote:
 
  Sourcing ~/.bashrc does not work for programs started by menu as I
  understand.  So this is not the best solution.
 
  Isn't the file read when one logs in to a DE? That is what appears to be
  happening when I log in to KDE. Since I put those variables in ~/.bashrc,
  scim is working flawlessly for me. But this may be happening due my
  ~/.profile which sources .bashrc file. Sorry, I always get confused in 
  these
  files intended order/situations of reading (including ~/.bash_profile).

 .bash_profile is always read at login. .bashrc is often read at login as 
 well,
 due to being sourced in .bash_profile, but not all systems are set up this 
 way.
 .bashrc is read for every non-login shell that is started.

 There were discussion how to initialize X environment. Debian is
 different from RH.

What? RH doesn't have anything to do with this that I can see.

 Environment are set
 1. PAM for gdm via /etc/environment
 2. /etc/X11/Xsession with $HOME/.xsessionrc

Sure, that works for X-specific stuff. I was going to say ~/.bash_profile still
applies as well, but it seems it does not if you use a *dm (unless you
explicitly source it somewhere). Very silly, in my opinion.

 Unlike RedHat, Debian do not source $HOME/.profile in obvious way as I
 see.  (I did not check if $HOME/.profile is sourced somewhere but above
 are the main location to set it.  Otherwise use hooks provided by glue
 software such as im-switch or im-config run in /etc/X11/xinit/xinput.d/)

I have a ~/.profile, and it says:
# ~/.profile: executed by the command interpreter for login shells.
# This file is not read by bash(1), if ~/.bash_profile or ~/.bash_login
# exists.

 Currently, my ibus env setting are in /etc/X11/xinit/xinput.d/

 That is im-switch

ah, so it is

 I think ibus actually set them up itself, as I don't remember doing it (I 
 set up
 scim in /etc/profile, back when I used it, I think)

 Are you sure you were using Debian ?

I haven't used any other distro on my computer since 2004 or earlier.


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Re: kernel panic error

2010-07-18 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sb, 17 iul 10, 23:10:39, Anand Sivaram wrote:
 
  Could you please elaborate on that? How can UUID fail if you have
  modules compiled in the kernel, since UUID is a property of the
  filesystem?
 
 Even if every driver is compiled into the kernel, an initrd may be required
 to
 use root=UUID=format.
 That is what my experience too, finally I swithed to root=/dev/sda2
 There are many suggestions that root=/dev/disk/by-uuid/
 could be used instead without an initrd.
 
 See the link,
 https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=61451

The link only talks about /dev/disk/by-uuid/... which is correct. Those 
are actually symlinks created by udev and I'm guessing they are not 
present if you don't have an initrd. But passing root=UUID=... should 
not require an initrd, because it doesn't rely on /dev being present.

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Re: Synaptic / Could not download all repository indexes

2010-07-18 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sb, 17 iul 10, 11:53:29, scar wrote:
 
 Thanks.  while i never manually edited the sources.list file, i did use
 software-properties-gtk to select best server (Main tab, Download From
 dropdown menu, Other, select best server button).  it seems like there
 is a bug in that algorithm and i was able to reproduce it just now.
 
 after correcting my sources.list with the line you provided and reloaded
 my repositories, everything finished fine without any error.  then, i
 went back to 'select best server' and, oddly, it picked a server in new
 zealand, ftp.nz.debian.org.  i then checked my sources.list and it
 looked like this:
 
 $ cat /etc/apt/sources.list
 # deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ lenny main
 
 deb ftp://ftp.nz.debian.org/debian/ lenny main
 deb-src ftp://ftp.nz.debian.org/debian/ lenny main
 
 deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main
 deb-src ftp://ftp.nz.debian.org/debian/ lenny/updates main
 
 deb http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile lenny/volatile main
 deb-src http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile lenny/volatile main
 
 # Backported packages for Debian Lenny
 deb http://www.backports.org/debian lenny-backports main contrib non-free
 $
 
 and, after checking for updates, i got the initial error again.

This was already reported
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=525409

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input from a file for 'ed'

2010-07-18 Thread Ariful Hossain
Can anyone explain what happens 
$edtemp

it ends up with a ken thompson's infamaous '?'

certainly first temp is created if not existed previously. and it may
also suppy an EOF(if read systemcall is called first).  But i'm lost why
it behaves in this way?
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Re: Nvidia card and Xen in lenny

2010-07-18 Thread Panayiotis Karabassis

On 07/16/2010 07:06 PM, Sven Joachim wrote:

On 2010-07-16 14:33 +0200, Panayiotis Karabassis wrote:

   

Yes I am using Squeeze. Sorry. How did you figure it out? :-)
 

Your Xorg.0.log showed xserver and kernel versions from Squeeze.

   

On 07/16/2010 11:04 AM, Sven Joachim wrote:
 

Which version of x11-xkb-utils is installed, and what are the contents
of /etc/default/keyboard?

Sven
   

Version 7.5+2
 

You may want to upgrade to 7.5+5 from sid.  I don't think this
is related to your problem, but trying can't really hurt.

   

/etc/default/keyboard

# If you change any of the following variables and HAL and X are
# configured to use this file, then the changes will become visible to
# X only if HAL is restarted.  In Debian you need to run
# /etc/init.d/hal restart

# The following variables describe your keyboard and can have the same
# values as the XkbModel, XkbLayout, XkbVariant and XkbOptions options
# in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.

XKBMODEL=pc105
XKBLAYOUT=us,gr
XKBVARIANT=,
XKBOPTIONS=grp:alt_shift_toggle,grp_led:scroll

# If you don't want to use the XKB layout on the console, you can
# specify an alternative keymap.  Make sure it will be accessible
# before /usr is mounted.
# KMAP=/etc/console-setup/defkeymap.kmap.gz
 

This works fine here.  I'm running out of ideas, so you might want to
file a bug against xserver-xorg-core (that might not be the package at
fault, but the X Strike Force is very responsive and will hopefully help
you to diagnose and solve the problem).

Sven


   

I filed a bug. Thank you all.


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Re: Home directory viewable from another profile

2010-07-18 Thread AG

On 17/07/10 22:19, Bob Proulx wrote:

AG wrote:
   

I have created another account for someone who will need to use my
computer for a while.  However, when checking this, I found that my own
files are viewable from this second account.
 

By default files in the home are readable but not writable.

   

How do I set the permissions so that the contents of my own /home/ag
account are not viewable from the new user account?
 

   $ chmod o-rwx ~/

That is 'o' for 'other' minus read-write-execute permissions.  You can
run that recursively if you like with 'chmod -R'.

   

For obvious reasons, I want to be careful about the permissions I
set so I don't lock myself out.  I think that it is chown 700
/home/ag -R but can someone please confirm that this will do what I
want before I screw things up.
 

I commend you for asking.  Using 'chown 700 /home/ag -R' would
probably fail but does something completely different on two counts.
One is that you want chmod not chown.  'chown 700' would try to change
the ownership to user number 700, but would probably fail since only
root can give away file ownership[1].

But then if you had actually used 'chmod 700' it would be bad because
that hard sets the execute bit on every file!  You don't want that
either.  Also you really have no reason to lock out your own group, it
is your own group after all, so leave off the group restriction.  Read
up on UPG (user private groups) for more information.

Using the symbolic modes is the modern way (modern as in as of around
twenty years ago modern) and avoids the trap of hard setting all of
the bits.  I think they are easier for people to understand too.  If
you want to do it the old way with hard numbers then using 'find' is
the way to go.  And if you have messed things up then some creative
find commands can repair things.

Bob

[1] 
http://www.gnu.org/software/coreutils/faq/#Why-can-only-root-chown-files_003f
   

Bob

Thanks for the excellent advice.  I executed the command you suggested 
and did so recursively and that has achieved the result I wanted.


Thanks for the information as well.  My head always gets a little 
muddled when it comes to setting permissions, so I'm glad I asked first.


Cheers

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Re: No sound from Flash, but other methods work well

2010-07-18 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 18:41:35 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
 On 07/17/2010 05:57 PM, Camaleón wrote:
 On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 17:13:35 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
 
 On 07/17/2010 04:30 PM, Camaleón wrote:
 
 Run alsamixer and check the volume for all the channels :-?
 
 
 First thing I did.
 
 Note, though, that for USB Audio there are only three channels: Bass,
 Treble, PCM.
 
 No Master.  That may very well be the problem, but I don't know what
 to do about it.
 
 Yep, but having no master channel should also make no sound for the rest
 of the applications and not just Icewasel :-?
 
 It's quite bizarre...
 
 Wait, is the USB device a headset or an external sound card?
 
 Speakers.  But effectively big headsets.
 
  I say that
 beacuse of this:
 
 http://www.google.com/webhp?hl=en#hl=enq=firefox+flash+headset+sound+linuxfp=6c67857170793776
 
 
 They all reference asoundconf which has apparently been deprecated
 for PA.
 
 Maybe is not just Flash the only app having no sound in Iceweasel.
 
 
 MP3s play just fine.

Knowing which audio devices are grabbed by which processes might shed
some light on the situation; I would be interested to see the output of

  lsof +c0 $(find /dev/ -group audio)

both when flashplayer tries and fails to play sound and when other
plugins of iceweasel do so successfully.

Another test would be if killing the pulseaudio daemon makes the sound
devices accessible to flashplayer.

Also, which value of ICEWEASEL_DSP is set in /etc/iceweasel/iceweaselrc?

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Unable to load the kernel module 'nvidia.ko' in 2.6.32-5-686 kernel

2010-07-18 Thread Jason Filippou
Hello list,

I just installed the new 2.6.32-5-686 kernel and I've been having
trouble installing the NVIDIA linux display driver. Usually this
process required of me only to download the linux-headers for the
relevant kernel release and then running the shell script provided by
NVIDIA on their website. I tried doing this with the 190.53 driver,
which is an old driver that worked perfectly for me, and the newest
256.35 driver provided by NVIDIA. In both cases, I get the ordinary
message about the CC check that failed because the gcc version that
was used to compile my kernel was not the same as the one used to
compile the driver and I also see the compiling kernel module
progress bar filling up to 100%. After this, I get the following
message:

Unable to load the kernel module 'nvidia.ko'. This happens most
frequently when this kernel module was build against the wrong or
improperly configured kernel sources, with a version of gcc that
differs from the one used to build the target kernel, or if a driver
such as rivafb/nvidiafb is present apd prevents the NVIDIA kernel
module from obtaining ownership of the NVIDIA graphics device(s), or
NVIDIA GPU installed in this system is not supported by the NVIDIA
LINUX graphics driver release.

And after that I'm suggested to check some log files. My gcc version is:

ja...@debian:~$ gcc -v | grep version
gcc version 4.4.4 (Debian 4.4.4-6)

I googled a bit and the most complete solution to the problem that I
found was manny's response to this thread:
http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=7t=2797

Yet my problem's still not been solved. I've also installed the proper
linux-headers package, as can be verified through aptitude:

ja...@debian:~$ sudo aptitude show linux-headers-2.6.32-5-686
[sudo] password for root:
Package: linux-headers-2.6.32-5-686
New: yes
State: installed
Automatically installed: yes
Version: 2.6.32-15
Priority: optional
Section: kernel
Maintainer: Debian Kernel Team debian-ker...@lists.debian.org
Uncompressed Size: 6,885k
Depends: linux-headers-2.6.32-5-common (= 2.6.32-15),
linux-kbuild-2.6.32, gcc-4.3
Provides: linux-headers, linux-headers-2.6
Description: Header files for Linux 2.6.32-5-686
 This package provides the architecture-specific kernel header files
for Linux kernel 2.6.32-5-686, generally used for building out-of-tree
kernel modules.  These files are going
 to be installed into /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.32-5-686, and can be
used for building modules that load into the kernel provided by the
linux-image-2.6.32-5-686 package.

Which steps should I follow to compile the NVIDIA driver into the new kernel?

Thanks for your time.


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Re: Unable to load the kernel module 'nvidia.ko' in 2.6.32-5-686 kernel

2010-07-18 Thread Mathieu Malaterre
On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 11:22 AM, Jason Filippou
jason.filip...@gmail.com wrote:
...
 Which steps should I follow to compile the NVIDIA driver into the new kernel?

Are you using squeeze ? If so I would suggest:

http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/nvidia-kernel-dkms

- apt-get install nvidia-kernel-dkms

I am using module-assistant on my debian lenny box, but this require
some tweaking.

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Re: Unable to load the kernel module 'nvidia.ko' in 2.6.32-5-686 kernel

2010-07-18 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2010-07-18 11:22 +0200, Jason Filippou wrote:

 I just installed the new 2.6.32-5-686 kernel and I've been having
 trouble installing the NVIDIA linux display driver. Usually this
 process required of me only to download the linux-headers for the
 relevant kernel release and then running the shell script provided by
 NVIDIA on their website. I tried doing this with the 190.53 driver,
 which is an old driver that worked perfectly for me, and the newest
 256.35 driver provided by NVIDIA.

I would recommend to use the Debian packages (nvidia-glx etc.) instead.

 In both cases, I get the ordinary
 message about the CC check that failed because the gcc version that
 was used to compile my kernel was not the same as the one used to
 compile the driver and I also see the compiling kernel module
 progress bar filling up to 100%. After this, I get the following
 message:

 Unable to load the kernel module 'nvidia.ko'. This happens most
 frequently when this kernel module was build against the wrong or
 improperly configured kernel sources, with a version of gcc that
 differs from the one used to build the target kernel, or if a driver
 such as rivafb/nvidiafb is present apd prevents the NVIDIA kernel
 module from obtaining ownership of the NVIDIA graphics device(s), or
 NVIDIA GPU installed in this system is not supported by the NVIDIA
 LINUX graphics driver release.

The reason is that a driver such as rivafb/nvidiafb is present…,
namely the nouveau module which is new in 2.6.32-5.  You need to
blacklist it (see modprobe.conf(5) and reboot to get rid of it.

If you had used the Debian packages this would not have happened,
because the nvidia-kernel-common package blacklists nouveau for you.

Sven


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Re: Unable to load the kernel module 'nvidia.ko' in 2.6.32-5-686 kernel

2010-07-18 Thread Angus Hedger
On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 10:51 AM, Sven Joachim svenj...@gmx.de wrote:
 On 2010-07-18 11:22 +0200, Jason Filippou wrote:

 I just installed the new 2.6.32-5-686 kernel and I've been having
 trouble installing the NVIDIA linux display driver. Usually this
 process required of me only to download the linux-headers for the
 relevant kernel release and then running the shell script provided by
 NVIDIA on their website. I tried doing this with the 190.53 driver,
 which is an old driver that worked perfectly for me, and the newest
 256.35 driver provided by NVIDIA.

 I would recommend to use the Debian packages (nvidia-glx etc.) instead.

 In both cases, I get the ordinary
 message about the CC check that failed because the gcc version that
 was used to compile my kernel was not the same as the one used to
 compile the driver and I also see the compiling kernel module
 progress bar filling up to 100%. After this, I get the following
 message:

 Unable to load the kernel module 'nvidia.ko'. This happens most
 frequently when this kernel module was build against the wrong or
 improperly configured kernel sources, with a version of gcc that
 differs from the one used to build the target kernel, or if a driver
 such as rivafb/nvidiafb is present apd prevents the NVIDIA kernel
 module from obtaining ownership of the NVIDIA graphics device(s), or
 NVIDIA GPU installed in this system is not supported by the NVIDIA
 LINUX graphics driver release.

 The reason is that a driver such as rivafb/nvidiafb is present…,
 namely the nouveau module which is new in 2.6.32-5.  You need to
 blacklist it (see modprobe.conf(5) and reboot to get rid of it.

 If you had used the Debian packages this would not have happened,
 because the nvidia-kernel-common package blacklists nouveau for you.

 Sven

Or, you can use the sgfxi scrip if you need/want newer drivers than
are in squeeze

See here: http://techpatterns.com/forums/about933.html

Regards,

Angus

ps I had some problems with the problems with the 32bit compat libs on
AMD64 not being install correctly via sgfxi, unfortunately I had to
run the nvidia installer again to fix it (ie not via sgfxi) but the
script did the blacklisting for me so that helped.


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Re: No sound from Flash, but other methods work well

2010-07-18 Thread Justin The Cynical
On 7/17/10 11:02 AM, Ron Johnson wrote:
 Hi,
 
 My Google-fu must not be up to snuff, because I've Googled much without
 any luck.
 
 USB Audio
 32-bit Sid
 ALSA 1.0.23+dfsg-1
 Flash 10.1r53 (from adobe.com)
 Iceweasel 3.6.4-1 (experimental)
 vlc 1.1.0
 users are in group audio
 
 Sound plays fine from local sources but not from Flash/Iceweasel. (Yes,
 Flash *video* works.)
 
 Any thoughts on how to solve this would be much appreciated, since
 otherwise my wife will insist on moving back to Windows.

Try this:

http://www.macewan.org/2006/06/01/howto-firefox-flash-video-sound-on-ubuntu-linux-dapper/

IIRC, I had this problem on an old Linux install I was using for MythTV,
and it did come down to a lack of OSS support with the installed ALSA.

(And I googled for 'linux flash sound' and that was the first hit :-) )


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Re: udev not assigning group correctly for scanner

2010-07-18 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 08:09:05PM -0700, bri...@aracnet.com wrote:
 device `epson2:/dev/sg1' is a Epson GT-9700 flatbed scanner
 
 crw-rw+ 1 root root 21, 1 Jul 14 18:57 /dev/sg1
 
 here's the rule it looks like it should be matching :
 
 
 # Epson Perfection 2450 | Epson GT-9700F | Epson Perfection 2450 PHOTO
 ATTRS{idVendor}==04b8, ATTRS{idProduct}==0112, MODE=0664,
 GROUP=scanner, ENV{libsane_matched}=yes

Where should $libsane_matched be set?

 
 Because, you know, that's the scanner I have :-)
 
 So I'm not clear on how I can figure out whether a rule was matched at
 all, and if it was, which one was matched.

1. Have you reloaded udev rules after your changes?

  udevadm control --reload-rules

On Lenny:

  udevadm control --reload_rules

2. udevmonitor (udevadm monitor) can help you see what you actually get
with the events. Use the option --env.

3. You seem to have quite a few conditions. Consider removing some of
them to see which one is the offender that does not apply.

 
 Also, what's the best way to add rules to /etc/udev to force my rules
 to be checked first.  Do I simply add a rules file with a low prefix
 number ??

Are there any other rules that apply?

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[SOLVED] Re: Unable to load the kernel module 'nvidia.ko' in 2.6.32-5-686 kernel

2010-07-18 Thread Jason Filippou
On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 12:48 PM, Mathieu Malaterre
mathieu.malate...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 11:22 AM, Jason Filippou
 jason.filip...@gmail.com wrote:
 ...
 Which steps should I follow to compile the NVIDIA driver into the new kernel?

 Are you using squeeze ? If so I would suggest:

 http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/nvidia-kernel-dkms

 - apt-get install nvidia-kernel-dkms

 I am using module-assistant on my debian lenny box, but this require
 some tweaking.

 HTH
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Thanks Mathieu, nvidia-kernel-dkms worked like a charm.

Marking this solved.


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Re: input from a file for 'ed'

2010-07-18 Thread Bob Proulx
Ariful Hossain wrote:
 Can anyone explain what happens 
 $edtemp

Two possibilities.  You are at a command prompt $ and are invoking
the 'ed' text editor and redirecting input from a file temp.  Or you
are running a command $ed where $ed is an environment variable of
unknown content and redirecting the input from a file temp.  Without
any spaces or other information it isn't possible to tell the difference.

 it ends up with a ken thompson's infamaous '?'

What are the contents of the file temp?  That is providing command
input to your 'ed' command.  Since you haven't shown us what your ed
script is telling 'ed' to do it isn't possible to know.

 certainly first temp is created if not existed previously.

Huh?  You say certainly as if we should know what the commands in
temp do.  Please show us the temp file that we may know what
commands are being executed.

 and it may also suppy an EOF(if read systemcall is called first).
 But i'm lost why it behaves in this way?

You have not yet shown us enough information to help you.

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cloning/saving system

2010-07-18 Thread John Lindsay
I am currently using debian lenny as my primary computer. It's a Dell 
Dimension 8300, P4, 3.4G with 1G Ram. 60G HD.
I also have a Dell Optiplex GX620 which currently has win7 on a 300G HD 
with 1.5g ram. I will be removing files from the win7 and storing them 
on DVDs and installing Debian on it. How can I clone/transfer my current 
working machine with all it's files/programs like thunderbird/iceweasel 
etc to the GX520 and still retain a working system?


John

PS I have file backup manager 'Pybackpack' currently running but I don't 
think that is what I want.



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Re: cloning/saving system

2010-07-18 Thread Jordon Bedwell
On 7/18/2010 7:20 AM, John Lindsay wrote:
 I am currently using debian lenny as my primary computer. It's a Dell
 Dimension 8300, P4, 3.4G with 1G Ram. 60G HD.
 I also have a Dell Optiplex GX620 which currently has win7 on a 300G HD
 with 1.5g ram. I will be removing files from the win7 and storing them
 on DVDs and installing Debian on it. How can I clone/transfer my current
 working machine with all it's files/programs like thunderbird/iceweasel
 etc to the GX520 and still retain a working system?
 
 John
 
 PS I have file backup manager 'Pybackpack' currently running but I don't
 think that is what I want.
 
 

Backup Windows first, put the old HD into the new computer, boot up to
Linux (you might have to edit Grub at this point) then dd the MBR to the
new drive on the new computer, then sync the rest of the drive either
using rsync, copy or dd. Then move the HD's back in their original
places and edit grub again.

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Re: No sound from Flash, but other methods work well

2010-07-18 Thread Ron Johnson

On 07/18/2010 06:03 AM, Justin The Cynical wrote:
[snip]


Try this:

http://www.macewan.org/2006/06/01/howto-firefox-flash-video-sound-on-ubuntu-linux-dapper/

IIRC, I had this problem on an old Linux install I was using for MythTV,
and it did come down to a lack of OSS support with the installed ALSA.

(And I googled for 'linux flash sound' and that was the first hit :-) )



Is that 4yo post regarding Flash v7 or v9?

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Re: Unable to load the kernel module 'nvidia.ko' in 2.6.32-5-686 kernel

2010-07-18 Thread Amax
On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 11:40:02 +0200, Jason Filippou wrote:

 Hello list,
 
 I just installed the new 2.6.32-5-686 kernel and I've been having
 trouble installing the NVIDIA linux display driver. Usually this process
 required of me only to download the linux-headers for the relevant
 kernel release and then running the shell script provided by NVIDIA on
 their website. I tried doing this with the 190.53 driver, which is an
 old driver that worked perfectly for me, and the newest 256.35 driver
 provided by NVIDIA. In both cases, I get the ordinary message about the
 CC check that failed because the gcc version that was used to compile my
 kernel was not the same as the one used to compile the driver and I also
 see the compiling kernel module progress bar filling up to 100%. After
 this, I get the following message:
 
 Unable to load the kernel module 'nvidia.ko'. This happens most
 frequently when this kernel module was build against the wrong or
 improperly configured kernel sources, with a version of gcc that differs
 from the one used to build the target kernel, or if a driver such as
 rivafb/nvidiafb is present apd prevents the NVIDIA kernel module from
 obtaining ownership of the NVIDIA graphics device(s), or NVIDIA GPU
 installed in this system is not supported by the NVIDIA LINUX graphics
 driver release.
 
 And after that I'm suggested to check some log files. My gcc version is:
 
 ja...@debian:~$ gcc -v | grep version gcc version 4.4.4 (Debian 4.4.4-6)
 
 I googled a bit and the most complete solution to the problem that I
 found was manny's response to this thread:
 http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=7t=2797
 
 Yet my problem's still not been solved. I've also installed the proper
 linux-headers package, as can be verified through aptitude:
 

 snip 

 
 Which steps should I follow to compile the NVIDIA driver into the new
 kernel?
 
 Thanks for your time.

I found out that the newer NVIDIA drivers no longer have the binary 
included that allows the install file to integrate with your current 
kernel.

What has to be done now is:

./NVIDIA-Linux-x86-256.35.run -a (automatically accepts the annoying 
licencing agreement) -e (the expert option will go step-by-step, giving 
you more control) --use-this-kernel

The --use-this-kernel option will produce another NVIDIA install file 
marked CUSTOM or something similar to differentiate it from the original.

Install this new file and you should be good to go.

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Re: RAID Questions

2010-07-18 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 06 Jul 2010, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
 On Tuesday 06 July 2010 13:04:27 Alan Chandler wrote:
  On 06/07/10 18:15, Miles Fidelman wrote:
    part2 primary Linux RAID 3G for swap
  
  Personally. I can't see the point in using RAID for swap.
 
 If your system is actively using swap [1], and the disk that swap resides on 
 fails you will experience abnormal process termination at the time of the 
 failure or in the future as processes need those pages.  Since some parts of 
 kernel memory are considered swappable this could result in a kernel panic.

I have seen it hard-hang the kernel, not causing even a panic.  It was
sometime ago, but it is not something that is tested very often.

Anyway, it can certainly result in data loss (and even filesystem
corruption if you're really unlucky) should it bring the kernel down, so
people should either remove swap entirely, or have it on RAID if they
care about their filesystems.

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Re: Is it gdm3 that is logging me out?

2010-07-18 Thread Alan Chandler

On 15/07/10 07:28, Alan Chandler wrote:

On 14/07/10 17:25, Bob Proulx wrote:

Florian Kulzer wrote:

Do you see signs of an X server restart or
anything else that looks suspicious in /var/log/Xorg.0.log or
/var/log/Xorg.0.log.old or /var/log/syslog?


See also the ~/.xsesssion-errors file.

Bob


Nothing in either of these files this morning - but I just booted up and
didn't have any problems since the last time I booted. Thanks for the
heads up though,I will check them out if it happens again.



It has happened again whilst I was having lunch today.  System had been 
idle for about 4 hours and when I came back to it I had been logged out. 
 Only 15 minutes ago (so it had worked perfectly up until then) it 
created an /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old file with ...


Fatal server error:
Failed to submit batchbuffer: Input/output error


Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support
 at http://wiki.x.org
 for help.
Please also check the log file at /var/log/Xorg.0.log for additional 
informati

on.

(II) Power Button: Close
(II) UnloadModule: evdev
(II) Sleep Button: Close
(II) UnloadModule: evdev
(II) Logitech USB-PS/2 Optical Mouse: Close
(II) UnloadModule: evdev
(II) Logitech Logitech Illuminated Keyboard: Close
(II) UnloadModule: evdev
(II) Logitech Logitech Illuminated Keyboard: Close
(II) UnloadModule: evdev
(II) AIGLX: Suspending AIGLX clients for VT switch


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Re: cloning/saving system

2010-07-18 Thread Mark
On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 6:14 AM, Jordon Bedwell jor...@envygeeks.comwrote:

 On 7/18/2010 7:20 AM, John Lindsay wrote:
  I am currently using debian lenny as my primary computer. It's a Dell
  Dimension 8300, P4, 3.4G with 1G Ram. 60G HD.
  I also have a Dell Optiplex GX620 which currently has win7 on a 300G HD
  with 1.5g ram. I will be removing files from the win7 and storing them
  on DVDs and installing Debian on it. How can I clone/transfer my current
  working machine with all it's files/programs like thunderbird/iceweasel
  etc to the GX520 and still retain a working system?
 
  John
 
  PS I have file backup manager 'Pybackpack' currently running but I don't
  think that is what I want.
 
 

 Backup Windows first, put the old HD into the new computer, boot up to
 Linux (you might have to edit Grub at this point) then dd the MBR to the
 new drive on the new computer, then sync the rest of the drive either
 using rsync, copy or dd. Then move the HD's back in their original
 places and edit grub again.


Or you could just use Clonezilla.


Re: No sound from Flash, but other methods work well

2010-07-18 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 18:41:35 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:

 On 07/17/2010 05:57 PM, Camaleón wrote:

 Wait, is the USB device a headset or an external sound card?
 
 Speakers.  But effectively big headsets.
 
  I say that
 beacuse of this:

 http://www.google.com/webhp?hl=en#hl=enq=firefox+flash+headset+sound
+linuxfp=6c67857170793776


 They all reference asoundconf which has apparently been deprecated for
 PA.

Uh? No, there are many reports about flash outputing sound to the wrong 
audio device, even using PA:

http://forum.sabayon.org/viewtopic.php?f=56t=18983

It's even documented in Ubuntu wiki:

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio#Firefox/Flash%20and%20PulseAudio
 
 Maybe is not just Flash the only app having no sound in Iceweasel.


 MP3s play just fine.

Then the problem is just affecting flash plugin within Iceweasel. I'd 
follow the suggestions made by Florian.

Mmm... have you tested with another browser (i.e., Epiphany, 
Konqueror...)?

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Re: clamscan vs. clamscan with mb2md

2010-07-18 Thread Jeffrey B. Green

In a previous msg, I wrote:


Running clamscan over a PDC/BDC with roaming profiles will (obviously) generate 
sporadic alerts on mbox files assoicated with assorted mail clients,
icedove/tbird in this case. In order to track down the specific message, I've 
used mbox2maildir (in the past) and mb2md presently to convert them into
a broken out situation, i.e. a structure where each message is its own file. 
I now have a case where the clamscan on the Inbox gives a positive and
clamscan on the mb2md (or mbox2maildir) directory of messages gives a negative. 
Is this case known? I believe it has occurred for me in the past
(forgotten exactly how long ago) and so it seems to be a neglected bug. 
However, I'm not sure which package (or support package) is responsible here.
Is clamscan giving a false positive/false negative or is mb2md changing the 
message in question so that clamscan misses it? It is a user's mailbox and
therefore not properly public for debugging purposes.

The clamscan alert is .../Inbox: Email.Phishing.Webmail-37 FOUND.



I found some time to track down the offending message in the Inbox and 
the only difference wrt causing a clamscan alert or not is the initial 
From line on the message. The Inbox had the line and the broken out 
mb2md files did not. If I put just that line back into the broken out 
message, then the alert returned when scanning the maildir messages. 
(This is on a lenny system with clamav 0.96.1+dfsg-1~volatile1, so if it 
is a known bug fixed in squeeze, then let me know. thx) I'll go ahead, 
if no one objects, and file a bug on clamav since mbox2maildir preserves 
a modified form of the from line (prefixes the line with MBOX-Line: ) 
but still doesn't trigger a clamscan alert.


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Re: udev not assigning group correctly for scanner

2010-07-18 Thread briand
On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 11:36:25 +
Tzafrir Cohen tzaf...@cohens.org.il wrote:


 1. Have you reloaded udev rules after your changes?
 
   udevadm control --reload-rules

that was one mistake I was making so I did

/etc/init.d/udev restart

 
 On Lenny:
 
   udevadm control --reload_rules
 
 2. udevmonitor (udevadm monitor) can help you see what you actually
 get with the events. Use the option --env.
 

yes ! I figured this out.  in fact I've been spending quality time with
udevadm.

 
 Are there any other rules that apply?
 

what I was really asking was where do I put MY rules to make sure that
you dev tries to match them first.  The answer I came up with was to
put a file 10-local.rules in /etc/udev/rules.d.

This works just fine and now everything works as expected.

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Re: Unable to load the kernel module 'nvidia.ko' in 2.6.32-5-686 kernel

2010-07-18 Thread Greg Madden
On Sunday 18 July 2010 01:22:00 Jason Filippou wrote:
 Hello list,

 I just installed the new 2.6.32-5-686 kernel and I've been having
 trouble installing the NVIDIA linux display driver. Usually this
 process required of me only to download the linux-headers for the
 relevant kernel release and then running the shell script provided by
 NVIDIA on their website. I tried doing this with the 190.53 driver,
 which is an old driver that worked perfectly for me, and the newest
 256.35 driver provided by NVIDIA. In both cases, I get the ordinary
 message about the CC check that failed because the gcc version that
 was used to compile my kernel was not the same as the one used to
 compile the driver and I also see the compiling kernel module
 progress bar filling up to 100%. After this, I get the following
 message:

 Unable to load the kernel module 'nvidia.ko'. This happens most
 frequently when this kernel module was build against the wrong or
 improperly configured kernel sources, with a version of gcc that
 differs from the one used to build the target kernel, or if a driver
 such as rivafb/nvidiafb is present apd prevents the NVIDIA kernel
 module from obtaining ownership of the NVIDIA graphics device(s), or
 NVIDIA GPU installed in this system is not supported by the NVIDIA
 LINUX graphics driver release.

 And after that I'm suggested to check some log files. My gcc version is:

 ja...@debian:~$ gcc -v | grep version
 gcc version 4.4.4 (Debian 4.4.4-6)

 I googled a bit and the most complete solution to the problem that I
 found was manny's response to this thread:
 http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=7t=2797

 Yet my problem's still not been solved. I've also installed the proper
 linux-headers package, as can be verified through aptitude:

 ja...@debian:~$ sudo aptitude show linux-headers-2.6.32-5-686
 [sudo] password for root:
 Package: linux-headers-2.6.32-5-686
 New: yes
 State: installed
 Automatically installed: yes
 Version: 2.6.32-15
 Priority: optional
 Section: kernel
 Maintainer: Debian Kernel Team debian-ker...@lists.debian.org
 Uncompressed Size: 6,885k
 Depends: linux-headers-2.6.32-5-common (= 2.6.32-15),
 linux-kbuild-2.6.32, gcc-4.3
 Provides: linux-headers, linux-headers-2.6
 Description: Header files for Linux 2.6.32-5-686
  This package provides the architecture-specific kernel header files
 for Linux kernel 2.6.32-5-686, generally used for building out-of-tree
 kernel modules.  These files are going
  to be installed into /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.32-5-686, and can be
 used for building modules that load into the kernel provided by the
 linux-image-2.6.32-5-686 package.

 Which steps should I follow to compile the NVIDIA driver into the new
 kernel?

 Thanks for your time.

to make it work with the stuff from Nvidia's site,

1. Squeeze kernel 2.6.32-5 is configured with gcc 4.3.5
2. gcc that is installed on Squeeze is 4.4.4  4.3.5
3. installing gcc creates a  symbolic link to  version of gcc-4.4.4
4. gcc is a depend of a few packages, dkms for one, but is not installed by 
default, or as a depend of the kernel or matching headers.

I had to create the symlink : 'ln -s /usr/bin/gcc-4.3  /usr/bin/gcc'

'cat /proc/version' shows the version of gcc that was used
'gcc -v' shows what version of gcc is being used.

btw, is this a bug ? 

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Re: Unable to load the kernel module 'nvidia.ko' in 2.6.32-5-686 kernel

2010-07-18 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2010-07-18 19:18 +0200, Greg Madden wrote:

 to make it work with the stuff from Nvidia's site,

 1. Squeeze kernel 2.6.32-5 is configured with gcc 4.3.5
 2. gcc that is installed on Squeeze is 4.4.4  4.3.5
 3. installing gcc creates a  symbolic link to  version of gcc-4.4.4
 4. gcc is a depend of a few packages, dkms for one, but is not installed by 
 default, or as a depend of the kernel or matching headers.

You have to use gcc-4.3, and linux-headers-2.6.32-5-$flavour depends on
it.

 I had to create the symlink : 'ln -s /usr/bin/gcc-4.3  /usr/bin/gcc'

This is wrong and may break at any time: as soon as the gcc package is
upgraded, it will overwrite your symlink.  Instead, set CC=gcc-4.3 if
necessary.

 'cat /proc/version' shows the version of gcc that was used
 'gcc -v' shows what version of gcc is being used.

 btw, is this a bug ? 

No.

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Re: Is it gdm3 that is logging me out?

2010-07-18 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Du, 18 iul 10, 15:34:22, Alan Chandler wrote:
 
 Fatal server error:
 Failed to submit batchbuffer: Input/output error

I've never seen this error, but did you try to google it? Do you have 
enough space on all partitions (especially /tmp)? How about a full fsck?

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Re: Is it gdm3 that is logging me out?

2010-07-18 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 15:34:22 +0100, Alan Chandler wrote:
 On 14/07/10 17:25, Bob Proulx wrote:
 Florian Kulzer wrote:
 Do you see signs of an X server restart or
 anything else that looks suspicious in /var/log/Xorg.0.log or
 /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old or /var/log/syslog?
 
 See also the ~/.xsesssion-errors file.

[...]

 It has happened again whilst I was having lunch today.  System had
 been idle for about 4 hours and when I came back to it I had been
 logged out.  Only 15 minutes ago (so it had worked perfectly up
 until then) it created an /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old file with ...
 
 Fatal server error:
 Failed to submit batchbuffer: Input/output error

That is a problem with the video driver; your GPU is choking on a set of
instructions that it is supposed to execute. Which video chipset do you
use, which version of the X server and which kernel? (An Intel 845
series chipset with Sid's Xorg and kernel, maybe?)

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Re: No sound from Flash, but other methods work well

2010-07-18 Thread Ron Johnson

On 07/18/2010 03:54 AM, Florian Kulzer wrote:

On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 18:41:35 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:

On 07/17/2010 05:57 PM, Camaleón wrote:

On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 17:13:35 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:


On 07/17/2010 04:30 PM, Camaleón wrote:



Run alsamixer and check the volume for all the channels :-?



First thing I did.

Note, though, that for USB Audio there are only three channels: Bass,
Treble, PCM.

No Master.  That may very well be the problem, but I don't know what
to do about it.


Yep, but having no master channel should also make no sound for the rest
of the applications and not just Icewasel :-?

It's quite bizarre...

Wait, is the USB device a headset or an external sound card?


Speakers.  But effectively big headsets.


 I say that
beacuse of this:

http://www.google.com/webhp?hl=en#hl=enq=firefox+flash+headset+sound+linuxfp=6c67857170793776



They all reference asoundconf which has apparently been deprecated
for PA.


Maybe is not just Flash the only app having no sound in Iceweasel.



MP3s play just fine.


Knowing which audio devices are grabbed by which processes might shed
some light on the situation; I would be interested to see the output of

   lsof +c0 $(find /dev/ -group audio)

both when flashplayer tries and fails to play sound and when other
plugins of iceweasel do so successfully.



Attached are 3 files.

I'm sure it's relevant (and I deeply apologize for forgetting about 
this) that sound only plays *at all* when I've got this ~/.asoundrc 
file:


$ cat .asoundrc
pcm.!default {
type hw
card Device
}


Another test would be if killing the pulseaudio daemon makes the sound
devices accessible to flashplayer.



I don't use PA.


Also, which value of ICEWEASEL_DSP is set in /etc/iceweasel/iceweaselrc?



none

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$ lsof +c0 $(find /dev/ -group audio)
COMMANDPID USER   FD   TYPE DEVICE SIZE/OFF NODE NAME
mixer_applet2 2193  ron   21r   CHR  116,9  0t0 3204 /dev/snd/controlC0
aqualung  3251  ron  memCHR  116,8  3201 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p
aqualung  3251  ron4r   CHR  116,8  0t0 3201 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p
$ lsof +c0 $(find /dev/ -group audio)
COMMANDPID USER   FD   TYPE DEVICE SIZE/OFF NODE NAME
mixer_applet2 2193  ron   21r   CHR  116,9  0t0 3204 /dev/snd/controlC0
$ cat dsp.quiet.txt
 lsof +c0 $(find /dev/ -group audio)
COMMANDPID USER   FD   TYPE DEVICE SIZE/OFF NODE NAME
mixer_applet2 2193  ron   21r   CHR  116,9  0t0 3204 /dev/snd/controlC0


Re: No sound from Flash, but other methods work well

2010-07-18 Thread Ron Johnson

On 07/18/2010 09:48 AM, Camaleón wrote:

On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 18:41:35 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:

On 07/17/2010 05:57 PM, Camaleón wrote:



Wait, is the USB device a headset or an external sound card?


Speakers.  But effectively big headsets.


  I say that
beacuse of this:

http://www.google.com/webhp?hl=en#hl=enq=firefox+flash+headset+sound

+linuxfp=6c67857170793776




They all reference asoundconf which has apparently been deprecated for
PA.


Uh? No, there are many reports about flash outputing sound to the wrong
audio device, even using PA:

http://forum.sabayon.org/viewtopic.php?f=56t=18983



$ apt-file search libflashsupport
acroread: 
/usr/lib/Adobe/Reader9/Reader/intellinux/lib/libflashsupport.so


libflashsupport doesn't really seem to exist anymore.

Anyway, I don't use PA.


It's even documented in Ubuntu wiki:

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio#Firefox/Flash%20and%20PulseAudio


Maybe is not just Flash the only app having no sound in Iceweasel.



MP3s play just fine.


Then the problem is just affecting flash plugin within Iceweasel. I'd
follow the suggestions made by Florian.



Haven't had a chance.

pause

Just sent that email.


Mmm... have you tested with another browser (i.e., Epiphany,
Konqueror...)?



Good thought, but no luck.  Same in epiphany-browser (webkit) 
2.30.2-3 as with IW.


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Re: Unable to load the kernel module 'nvidia.ko' in 2.6.32-5-686 kernel

2010-07-18 Thread Greg Madden
On Sunday 18 July 2010 09:31:46 Sven Joachim wrote:
 On 2010-07-18 19:18 +0200, Greg Madden wrote:
  to make it work with the stuff from Nvidia's site,
 
  1. Squeeze kernel 2.6.32-5 is configured with gcc 4.3.5
  2. gcc that is installed on Squeeze is 4.4.4  4.3.5
  3. installing gcc creates a  symbolic link to  version of gcc-4.4.4
  4. gcc is a depend of a few packages, dkms for one, but is not installed
  by default, or as a depend of the kernel or matching headers.

 You have to use gcc-4.3, and linux-headers-2.6.32-5-$flavour depends on
 it.

  I had to create the symlink : 'ln -s /usr/bin/gcc-4.3  /usr/bin/gcc'

 This is wrong and may break at any time: as soon as the gcc package is
 upgraded, it will overwrite your symlink.  Instead, set CC=gcc-4.3 if
 necessary.

Thanks, what I don't understand though is why when gcc is installed it does a 
symlink to gcc-4.4, on Squeeze.  It could be an issue with using non-Debian 
sources as they do fail because they look at 'usr/bin/gcc' and whatever it is 
liked to. 

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 7 July 18 10:46 /usr/bin/gcc - /usr/bin/gcc-4.4




  'cat /proc/version' shows the version of gcc that was used
  'gcc -v' shows what version of gcc is being used.
 
  btw, is this a bug ?

 No.

 Sven



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Re: Unable to load the kernel module 'nvidia.ko' in 2.6.32-5-686 kernel

2010-07-18 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2010-07-18 21:02 +0200, Greg Madden wrote:

 Thanks, what I don't understand though is why when gcc is installed it does a 
 symlink to gcc-4.4, on Squeeze.

Because gcc-4.4 is the default compiler, but the kernel has been
compiled with gcc-4.3 (mainly to avoid regressions that may show up when
building the kernel with the newer compiler).

That the kernel folks are rather insane and insist on building
third-party modules with the same GCC version as the kernel is another
problem (consider what would happen if libraries were handled that way).

 It could be an issue with using non-Debian
 sources as they do fail because they look at 'usr/bin/gcc' and whatever it is 
 liked to. 

They should look at the CC environment variable first.  I don't quite
know if/how Debian's linux-kbuild infrastructure takes care of setting
that, but there is a file
/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.32-5-$flavour/.kernelvariables in the
linux-headers-2.6.32-5-$flavour package that seems to set CC.

Sven


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Re: No sound from Flash, but other methods work well

2010-07-18 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 12:44:10 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
 On 07/18/2010 03:54 AM, Florian Kulzer wrote:
 On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 18:41:35 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
 On 07/17/2010 05:57 PM, Camaleón wrote:
 On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 17:13:35 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
 On 07/17/2010 04:30 PM, Camaleón wrote:
 
 Run alsamixer and check the volume for all the channels :-?
 
 
 First thing I did.
 
 Note, though, that for USB Audio there are only three channels: Bass,
 Treble, PCM.
 
 No Master.  That may very well be the problem, but I don't know what
 to do about it.

[...]

 Maybe is not just Flash the only app having no sound in Iceweasel.
 
 
 MP3s play just fine.
 
 Knowing which audio devices are grabbed by which processes might shed
 some light on the situation; I would be interested to see the output of
 
lsof +c0 $(find /dev/ -group audio)
 
 both when flashplayer tries and fails to play sound and when other
 plugins of iceweasel do so successfully.
 
 
 Attached are 3 files.
 
 I'm sure it's relevant (and I deeply apologize for forgetting about
 this) that sound only plays *at all* when I've got this ~/.asoundrc
 file:
 
 $ cat .asoundrc
 pcm.!default {
 type hw
 card Device
 }

Strace shows that the plugin does try to access ~/.asoundrc, but I don't
know what it makes of the information in that file. (I don't use
~/.asoundrc at the moment.)

 Another test would be if killing the pulseaudio daemon makes the sound
 devices accessible to flashplayer.
 
 I don't use PA.

OK, I misinterpreted your earlier remark about PA.
 
 Also, which value of ICEWEASEL_DSP is set in /etc/iceweasel/iceweaselrc?
 
 none

That has been working for me for years.

 $ lsof +c0 $(find /dev/ -group audio)
 COMMANDPID USER   FD   TYPE DEVICE SIZE/OFF NODE NAME
 mixer_applet2 2193  ron   21r   CHR  116,9  0t0 3204 /dev/snd/controlC0
 aqualung  3251  ron  memCHR  116,8  3201 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p
 aqualung  3251  ron4r   CHR  116,8  0t0 3201 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p

 $ lsof +c0 $(find /dev/ -group audio)
 COMMANDPID USER   FD   TYPE DEVICE SIZE/OFF NODE NAME
 mixer_applet2 2193  ron   21r   CHR  116,9  0t0 3204 /dev/snd/controlC0

 $ cat dsp.quiet.txt
  lsof +c0 $(find /dev/ -group audio)
 COMMANDPID USER   FD   TYPE DEVICE SIZE/OFF NODE NAME
 mixer_applet2 2193  ron   21r   CHR  116,9  0t0 3204 /dev/snd/controlC0

Everything is normal with aqualung, but it looks like flashplayer does
not even try to play audio. On my Sid systems it is not bothered at all
by the fact that kmix has /dev/snd/controlC0 open, it simply uses
/dev/snd/pcmC0D0p and /dev/snd/timer as needed.

You could run iceweasel under strace:

  strace -f -efile -o iceweasel-flash.strace iceweasel

Let a flash video play silently for a few seconds and then close the
browser. Afterwards you can check what has been accessed:

  grep -E 'a(lsa|sound)|/dev/(a?dsp|audio|mixer|snd)' iceweasel-flash.strace

Before you break out the big guns, though, you can try to set
ICEWEASEL_DSP to aoss (assuming you have oss-compat installed), or
maybe installing flashplugin-nonfree-extrasound will help, or switching
from flashplugin-nonfree to flashplayer-mozilla, or vice versa. (I did
not read the entire thread, maybe some of these things were already
suggested.)

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Re: No sound from Flash, but other methods work well

2010-07-18 Thread Ralph Katz
On 07/17/2010 02:02 PM, Ron Johnson wrote:
 Sound plays fine from local sources but not from Flash/Iceweasel. (Yes,
 Flash *video* works.)

I sure remember struggling with flash audio issues over the years!
While I am clueless to offer additional hints on possible solutions, I
do have a trusty workaround for many (not all) flash renditions and
confess to using this regularly for playback navigation and speed control:

Pause playback in flashplayer.  The file will continue to download.
Launch mplayer, play the file.   Enjoy the movie.
ra...@spike ~$ cd /tmp;ls  |grep Flash |xargs mplayer

Regards and good luck,
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Re: No sound from Flash, but other methods work well

2010-07-18 Thread Ron Johnson

On 07/18/2010 04:05 PM, Florian Kulzer wrote:

On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 12:44:10 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:

On 07/18/2010 03:54 AM, Florian Kulzer wrote:

On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 18:41:35 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:

On 07/17/2010 05:57 PM, Camaleón wrote:

On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 17:13:35 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:

On 07/17/2010 04:30 PM, Camaleón wrote:



Run alsamixer and check the volume for all the channels :-?



First thing I did.

Note, though, that for USB Audio there are only three channels: Bass,
Treble, PCM.

No Master.  That may very well be the problem, but I don't know what
to do about it.


[...]


Maybe is not just Flash the only app having no sound in Iceweasel.



MP3s play just fine.


Knowing which audio devices are grabbed by which processes might shed
some light on the situation; I would be interested to see the output of

   lsof +c0 $(find /dev/ -group audio)

both when flashplayer tries and fails to play sound and when other
plugins of iceweasel do so successfully.



Attached are 3 files.

I'm sure it's relevant (and I deeply apologize for forgetting about
this) that sound only plays *at all* when I've got this ~/.asoundrc
file:

$ cat .asoundrc
pcm.!default {
 type hw
 card Device
}


Strace shows that the plugin does try to access ~/.asoundrc, but I don't
know what it makes of the information in that file. (I don't use
~/.asoundrc at the moment.)


Another test would be if killing the pulseaudio daemon makes the sound
devices accessible to flashplayer.


I don't use PA.


OK, I misinterpreted your earlier remark about PA.


Also, which value of ICEWEASEL_DSP is set in /etc/iceweasel/iceweaselrc?


none


That has been working for me for years.



As it does on my computer, which is 64-bit, Flash 1.0.r45 but with 
a real sound card.



$ lsof +c0 $(find /dev/ -group audio)
COMMANDPID USER   FD   TYPE DEVICE SIZE/OFF NODE NAME
mixer_applet2 2193  ron   21r   CHR  116,9  0t0 3204 /dev/snd/controlC0
aqualung  3251  ron  memCHR  116,8  3201 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p
aqualung  3251  ron4r   CHR  116,8  0t0 3201 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p



$ lsof +c0 $(find /dev/ -group audio)
COMMANDPID USER   FD   TYPE DEVICE SIZE/OFF NODE NAME
mixer_applet2 2193  ron   21r   CHR  116,9  0t0 3204 /dev/snd/controlC0



$ cat dsp.quiet.txt
  lsof +c0 $(find /dev/ -group audio)
COMMANDPID USER   FD   TYPE DEVICE SIZE/OFF NODE NAME
mixer_applet2 2193  ron   21r   CHR  116,9  0t0 3204 /dev/snd/controlC0


Everything is normal with aqualung, but it looks like flashplayer does
not even try to play audio. On my Sid systems it is not bothered at all
by the fact that kmix has /dev/snd/controlC0 open, it simply uses
/dev/snd/pcmC0D0p and /dev/snd/timer as needed.

You could run iceweasel under strace:

   strace -f -efile -o iceweasel-flash.strace iceweasel

Let a flash video play silently for a few seconds and then close the
browser. Afterwards you can check what has been accessed:

   grep -E 'a(lsa|sound)|/dev/(a?dsp|audio|mixer|snd)' iceweasel-flash.strace



http://members.cox.net/ron.l.johnson/iceweasel-flash.strace.grep.txt

This might not be useful, since v3.6.4 uses plugin process separation.


Before you break out the big guns, though, you can try to set
ICEWEASEL_DSP to aoss (assuming you have oss-compat installed), or


Didn't work.
members.cox.net/ron.l.johnson/iceweasel-flash.aoss.strace.grep.txt


maybe installing flashplugin-nonfree-extrasound will help, or switching


Didn't work either.

http://members.cox.net/ron.l.johnson/iceweasel-flash.aoss.extra.strace.grep.txt


from flashplugin-nonfree to flashplayer-mozilla, or vice versa. (I did
not read the entire thread, maybe some of these things were already
suggested.)



flashplayer-mozilla has never worked for me.

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Re: Is it gdm3 that is logging me out?

2010-07-18 Thread Alan Chandler

On 18/07/10 18:34, Andrei Popescu wrote:

On Du, 18 iul 10, 15:34:22, Alan Chandler wrote:


Fatal server error:
Failed to submit batchbuffer: Input/output error


I've never seen this error, but did you try to google it? Do you have
enough space on all partitions (especially /tmp)? How about a full fsck?



I did try to google it - vague references to problems with the Intel 
Chipset - but no solutions that I could find.


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Re: No sound from Flash, but other methods work well

2010-07-18 Thread Rob Owens
On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 10:37:21PM -0700, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
 Ron Johnson wrote:
 On 07/17/2010 04:09 PM, Jimmy Johnson wrote:

 Ron I've had that problem a couple times before, what I found was one of
 my channels was not selected in the volume control in Kmix.

 That's kinda where my thoughts have been leaning, since USB Audio only  
 have Bass, Treble and PCM in it's mixer.  But I don't know what to do  
 about it.


 I hate sound problems, for me the channel was there, I only had to  
 select it. Good luck.

I've found that sometimes gnome-alsamixer has channels/options that
regular alsamixer does not have.  Maybe give it a try.

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Re: No sound from Flash, but other methods work well

2010-07-18 Thread Rob Owens
On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 01:02:58PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
 Hi,

 My Google-fu must not be up to snuff, because I've Googled much without 
 any luck.

 USB Audio
 32-bit Sid
 ALSA 1.0.23+dfsg-1
 Flash 10.1r53 (from adobe.com)
 Iceweasel 3.6.4-1 (experimental)
 vlc 1.1.0
 users are in group audio

 Sound plays fine from local sources but not from Flash/Iceweasel. (Yes, 
 Flash *video* works.)

 Any thoughts on how to solve this would be much appreciated, since  
 otherwise my wife will insist on moving back to Windows.

It's working for me.  If you'd like to see any specific config files,
let me know.  I'm running amd64 Lenny with flashplayer-mozilla from
debian-multimedia.  I'm also running pulseaudio.

If you don't get this working, try googling for greasemonkey scripts
that play flash videos with the mplayer plugin.  HQtube is one that
worked for me at one time (haven't tried recently), but there are others.

-Rob


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Re: No sound from Flash, but other methods work well

2010-07-18 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 16:59:44 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
 On 07/18/2010 04:05 PM, Florian Kulzer wrote:
 On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 12:44:10 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:

[...]

 $ lsof +c0 $(find /dev/ -group audio)
 COMMANDPID USER   FD   TYPE DEVICE SIZE/OFF NODE NAME
 mixer_applet2 2193  ron   21r   CHR  116,9  0t0 3204 /dev/snd/controlC0
 aqualung  3251  ron  memCHR  116,8  3201 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p
 aqualung  3251  ron4r   CHR  116,8  0t0 3201 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p
 
 $ lsof +c0 $(find /dev/ -group audio)
 COMMANDPID USER   FD   TYPE DEVICE SIZE/OFF NODE NAME
 mixer_applet2 2193  ron   21r   CHR  116,9  0t0 3204 /dev/snd/controlC0
 
 $ cat dsp.quiet.txt
   lsof +c0 $(find /dev/ -group audio)
 COMMANDPID USER   FD   TYPE DEVICE SIZE/OFF NODE NAME
 mixer_applet2 2193  ron   21r   CHR  116,9  0t0 3204 /dev/snd/controlC0
 
 Everything is normal with aqualung, but it looks like flashplayer does
 not even try to play audio. On my Sid systems it is not bothered at all
 by the fact that kmix has /dev/snd/controlC0 open, it simply uses
 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p and /dev/snd/timer as needed.
 
 You could run iceweasel under strace:
 
strace -f -efile -o iceweasel-flash.strace iceweasel
 
 Let a flash video play silently for a few seconds and then close the
 browser. Afterwards you can check what has been accessed:
 
grep -E 'a(lsa|sound)|/dev/(a?dsp|audio|mixer|snd)' iceweasel-flash.strace
 
 
 http://members.cox.net/ron.l.johnson/iceweasel-flash.strace.grep.txt
 
 This might not be useful, since v3.6.4 uses plugin process separation.

The -f should take care of that. I use iceweasel 3.6.4 (from
experimental), too, so we can compare:

The first difference that I notice is that after reading your
~/.asoundrc, no further configuration is taken into account:

3470  access(/home/ron/.asoundrc, R_OK) = 0
3470  open(/home/ron/.asoundrc, O_RDONLY) = 17
3470  open(/dev/snd/controlC0, O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = 17

In my case, without ~/.asoundrc, more configuration files are read:

6066  access(/home/florian/.asoundrc, R_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or 
directory)
6066  open(/usr/share/alsa/cards/aliases.conf, O_RDONLY) = 17
6066  open(/usr/share/alsa/pcm/default.conf, O_RDONLY) = 18
6066  open(/usr/share/alsa/pcm/dmix.conf, O_RDONLY) = 18
6066  open(/usr/share/alsa/pcm/dsnoop.conf, O_RDONLY) = 18
6066  open(/dev/snd/controlC0, O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = 17

Maybe you should try to include these other configuration files in your
~/.asoundrc. I would also be tempted to test the effect of temporarily
removing your ~/.asoundrc. (You already said that this breaks all other
sound, but what does it do to flashplayer?)

After that, your flashplayer repeats this over and over:

3470  open(/dev/snd/controlC0, O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = 17
3470  open(/dev/snd/controlC0, O_RDWR|O_CLOEXEC) = 17
3470  open(/dev/snd/controlC0, O_RDWR|O_CLOEXEC) = 17
3470  open(/dev/snd/pcmC0D0p, O_RDWR|O_NONBLOCK|O_CLOEXEC) = 18
3470  stat64(/usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=8967, 
...}) = 0

In my case, it opens some chipset-specific configuration files:

6066  open(/dev/snd/controlC0, O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = 17
6066  stat64(/usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=8967, 
...}) = 0
6066  open(/dev/snd/controlC0, O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = 17
6066  open(/dev/snd/controlC0, O_RDWR|O_CLOEXEC) = 17
6066  access(/usr/share/alsa/cards/ICH4.conf, R_OK) = 0
6066  open(/usr/share/alsa/cards/ICH4.conf, O_RDONLY) = 17
6066  open(/usr/share/alsa/pcm/front.conf, O_RDONLY) = 18
6066  open(/usr/share/alsa/pcm/surround40.conf, O_RDONLY) = 18
6066  open(/usr/share/alsa/pcm/surround41.conf, O_RDONLY) = 18
6066  open(/usr/share/alsa/pcm/surround50.conf, O_RDONLY) = 18
6066  open(/usr/share/alsa/pcm/surround51.conf, O_RDONLY) = 18
6066  open(/usr/share/alsa/pcm/iec958.conf, O_RDONLY) = 18

Then my flashplayer tries to open all other controls (controlCxx),
probably to check for further soundcards, and finally it accesses
controlC0, pcmC0D0p and timer.

It seems that your flashplayer does access the correct device and there
are no indications of problems with permissions or lockout by another
process, but it just does not know how to configure and use your
hardware properly. (Further thoughts from real ALSA experts would be
appreciated...)

 Before you break out the big guns, though, you can try to set
 ICEWEASEL_DSP to aoss (assuming you have oss-compat installed), or
 
 Didn't work.
 members.cox.net/ron.l.johnson/iceweasel-flash.aoss.strace.grep.txt
 
 maybe installing flashplugin-nonfree-extrasound will help, or switching
 
 Didn't work either.
 
 http://members.cox.net/ron.l.johnson/iceweasel-flash.aoss.extra.strace.grep.txt

Indeed, neither of these changes seems to make a difference.

 from flashplugin-nonfree to flashplayer-mozilla, or vice versa. (I did
 not read the entire thread, maybe some of these things were already
 suggested.)
 
 
 flashplayer-mozilla has never worked for me.

My 

Re: Is it gdm3 that is logging me out?

2010-07-18 Thread Alan Chandler

On 18/07/10 18:19, Florian Kulzer wrote:

On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 15:34:22 +0100, Alan Chandler wrote:

On 14/07/10 17:25, Bob Proulx wrote:

Florian Kulzer wrote:

Do you see signs of an X server restart or
anything else that looks suspicious in /var/log/Xorg.0.log or
/var/log/Xorg.0.log.old or /var/log/syslog?


See also the ~/.xsesssion-errors file.


[...]


It has happened again whilst I was having lunch today.  System had
been idle for about 4 hours and when I came back to it I had been
logged out.  Only 15 minutes ago (so it had worked perfectly up
until then) it created an /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old file with ...

Fatal server error:
Failed to submit batchbuffer: Input/output error


That is a problem with the video driver; your GPU is choking on a set of
instructions that it is supposed to execute. Which video chipset do you
use, which version of the X server and which kernel? (An Intel 845
series chipset with Sid's Xorg and kernel, maybe?)



I am running Squeeze, with Xorg and latest kernel - the chipset is an 
Intel 965 (I think - motherboard is an Intel DG965S)


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Re: No sound from Flash, but other methods work well

2010-07-18 Thread Ron Johnson

On 07/18/2010 05:53 PM, Rob Owens wrote:

On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 10:37:21PM -0700, Jimmy Johnson wrote:

Ron Johnson wrote:

On 07/17/2010 04:09 PM, Jimmy Johnson wrote:



Ron I've had that problem a couple times before, what I found was one of
my channels was not selected in the volume control in Kmix.


That's kinda where my thoughts have been leaning, since USB Audio only
have Bass, Treble and PCM in it's mixer.  But I don't know what to do
about it.



I hate sound problems, for me the channel was there, I only had to
select it. Good luck.


I've found that sometimes gnome-alsamixer has channels/options that
regular alsamixer does not have.  Maybe give it a try.



Is that System-Properties-Sound?

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Re: cloning/saving system

2010-07-18 Thread H.S.

On 18/07/10 09:14 AM, Jordon Bedwell wrote:



Backup Windows first, put the old HD into the new computer, boot up to
Linux (you might have to edit Grub at this point) then dd the MBR to the
new drive on the new computer,


Regarding the dd'ing of grub, why not just do (after booting in to the 
system as you described):

# grub-install /dev/sdX

where /dev/sdX is the new drive?







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Re: No sound from Flash, but other methods work well

2010-07-18 Thread Rob Owens
On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 06:22:23PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
 On 07/18/2010 05:53 PM, Rob Owens wrote:
 On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 10:37:21PM -0700, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
 Ron Johnson wrote:
 On 07/17/2010 04:09 PM, Jimmy Johnson wrote:

 Ron I've had that problem a couple times before, what I found was one of
 my channels was not selected in the volume control in Kmix.

 That's kinda where my thoughts have been leaning, since USB Audio only
 have Bass, Treble and PCM in it's mixer.  But I don't know what to do
 about it.


 I hate sound problems, for me the channel was there, I only had to
 select it. Good luck.

 I've found that sometimes gnome-alsamixer has channels/options that
 regular alsamixer does not have.  Maybe give it a try.


 Is that System-Properties-Sound?

I'm not sure, actually, since I normally use Fluxbox.  It might be what
gets run when you double-click on the volume icon.  But try running
gnome-alsamixer from the command line just to be sure.

-Rob


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Re: No sound from Flash, but other methods work well

2010-07-18 Thread Ron Johnson

On 07/18/2010 07:40 PM, Rob Owens wrote:

On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 06:22:23PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:

On 07/18/2010 05:53 PM, Rob Owens wrote:

On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 10:37:21PM -0700, Jimmy Johnson wrote:

Ron Johnson wrote:

On 07/17/2010 04:09 PM, Jimmy Johnson wrote:



Ron I've had that problem a couple times before, what I found was one of
my channels was not selected in the volume control in Kmix.


That's kinda where my thoughts have been leaning, since USB Audio only
have Bass, Treble and PCM in it's mixer.  But I don't know what to do
about it.



I hate sound problems, for me the channel was there, I only had to
select it. Good luck.


I've found that sometimes gnome-alsamixer has channels/options that
regular alsamixer does not have.  Maybe give it a try.



Is that System-Properties-Sound?


I'm not sure, actually, since I normally use Fluxbox.  It might be what
gets run when you double-click on the volume icon.  But try running
gnome-alsamixer from the command line just to be sure.



$ apt-cache policy gnome-alsamixer
gnome-alsamixer:
  Installed: 0.9.7~cvs.20060916.ds.1-2
  Candidate: 0.9.7~cvs.20060916.ds.1-2
  Version table:
 *** 0.9.7~cvs.20060916.ds.1-2 0
500 ftp://mirrors.kernel.org unstable/main Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

That's a *really old* application!

Anyway, it shows what all the rest show: Bass, Treble, PCM.

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Re: No sound from Flash, but other methods work well

2010-07-18 Thread Javier Vasquez
On 7/17/10, Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote:
 Hi,

 My Google-fu must not be up to snuff, because I've Googled much
 without any luck.

 USB Audio
 32-bit Sid
 ALSA 1.0.23+dfsg-1
 Flash 10.1r53 (from adobe.com)
 Iceweasel 3.6.4-1 (experimental)
 vlc 1.1.0
 users are in group audio

 Sound plays fine from local sources but not from Flash/Iceweasel.
 (Yes, Flash *video* works.)

 Any thoughts on how to solve this would be much appreciated, since
 otherwise my wife will insist on moving back to Windows.

 Thanks
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Hmm, I saw so many feedback that I don't know if any covers what I'll
suggest...  As you mentioned that it works for you on other
applications, it might be silly what I suggest, but perhaps you
haven't covered it...

I have an USB audio device as well, one of those cheap ones, :-)  But
when there's no other sound device in the box, there's a problem with
them, because some applications do not look for secondary devices,
they just look for the first one (make sense that if there's no first
then there's no second).  But debian has its way of deciding things,
so the alsa team decided it's best to always set the usb devices as
secondary ones, never as first ones...  So to solve all problems I had
with usb audio devices, what I did is to comment out the trick debian
uses...

% grep usb /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
23:# Keep snd-usb-audio from beeing loaded as first soundcard
24:options snd-usb-audio index=-2

Line 24 of alsa-base.conf makes snd-usb-audio to get second, no matter
what...  That makes some applications blind to it...

What I did to correct that is to comment out line 24, as follows:

% grep usb /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
23:# Keep snd-usb-audio from beeing loaded as first soundcard
24:# options snd-usb-audio index=-2

Then I never faced usb audio devices problems again...

Again, I apologize if this has been covered already.  I myself do not
use any desktop manager, just plain old good fluxbox, so I wouldn't
know if suggestions about gnome-* and all that stuff is the real
answer...  Any ways, this I'm pointing out might be so basic that no
one mantioned it, and you might have done it already, so I just wanted
to make sure this basic thing got covered...

Good luck,


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Re: No sound from Flash, but other methods work well

2010-07-18 Thread Ron Johnson

On 07/18/2010 08:09 PM, Javier Vasquez wrote:
[snip]


I have an USB audio device as well, one of those cheap ones, :-)  But
when there's no other sound device in the box, there's a problem with
them, because some applications do not look for secondary devices,
they just look for the first one (make sense that if there's no first
then there's no second).  But debian has its way of deciding things,
so the alsa team decided it's best to always set the usb devices as
secondary ones, never as first ones...  So to solve all problems I had
with usb audio devices, what I did is to comment out the trick debian
uses...

% grep usb /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
23:# Keep snd-usb-audio from beeing loaded as first soundcard
24:options snd-usb-audio index=-2

Line 24 of alsa-base.conf makes snd-usb-audio to get second, no matter
what...  That makes some applications blind to it...

What I did to correct that is to comment out line 24, as follows:

% grep usb /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
23:# Keep snd-usb-audio from beeing loaded as first soundcard
24:# options snd-usb-audio index=-2

Then I never faced usb audio devices problems again...



I actually did do something similar to that, and for exactly the 
reason you mention.  That was my first hurdle.  Flash is my 2nd.


$ grep usb /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
# Keep snd-usb-audio from beeing loaded as first soundcard
## But I *want* snd-usb-audio to be the first soundcard...
options snd-usb-audio index=0

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Re: No sound from Flash, but other methods work well

2010-07-18 Thread Javier Vasquez
On 7/18/10, Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote:
 On 07/18/2010 04:05 PM, Florian Kulzer wrote:
 On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 12:44:10 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
 On 07/18/2010 03:54 AM, Florian Kulzer wrote:
 On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 18:41:35 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
 On 07/17/2010 05:57 PM, Camaleón wrote:
 On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 17:13:35 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
 On 07/17/2010 04:30 PM, Camaleón wrote:

 Run alsamixer and check the volume for all the channels :-?


 First thing I did.

 Note, though, that for USB Audio there are only three channels: Bass,
 Treble, PCM.

 No Master.  That may very well be the problem, but I don't know
 what
 to do about it.

 [...]

 Maybe is not just Flash the only app having no sound in Iceweasel.


 MP3s play just fine.

 Knowing which audio devices are grabbed by which processes might shed
 some light on the situation; I would be interested to see the output of

lsof +c0 $(find /dev/ -group audio)

 both when flashplayer tries and fails to play sound and when other
 plugins of iceweasel do so successfully.


 Attached are 3 files.

 I'm sure it's relevant (and I deeply apologize for forgetting about
 this) that sound only plays *at all* when I've got this ~/.asoundrc
 file:

 $ cat .asoundrc
 pcm.!default {
  type hw
  card Device
 }

 Strace shows that the plugin does try to access ~/.asoundrc, but I don't
 know what it makes of the information in that file. (I don't use
 ~/.asoundrc at the moment.)

 Another test would be if killing the pulseaudio daemon makes the sound
 devices accessible to flashplayer.

 I don't use PA.

 OK, I misinterpreted your earlier remark about PA.

 Also, which value of ICEWEASEL_DSP is set in /etc/iceweasel/iceweaselrc?

 none

 That has been working for me for years.


 As it does on my computer, which is 64-bit, Flash 1.0.r45 but with
 a real sound card.

 $ lsof +c0 $(find /dev/ -group audio)
 COMMANDPID USER   FD   TYPE DEVICE SIZE/OFF NODE NAME
 mixer_applet2 2193  ron   21r   CHR  116,9  0t0 3204
 /dev/snd/controlC0
 aqualung  3251  ron  memCHR  116,8  3201
 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p
 aqualung  3251  ron4r   CHR  116,8  0t0 3201
 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p

 $ lsof +c0 $(find /dev/ -group audio)
 COMMANDPID USER   FD   TYPE DEVICE SIZE/OFF NODE NAME
 mixer_applet2 2193  ron   21r   CHR  116,9  0t0 3204
 /dev/snd/controlC0

 $ cat dsp.quiet.txt
   lsof +c0 $(find /dev/ -group audio)
 COMMANDPID USER   FD   TYPE DEVICE SIZE/OFF NODE NAME
 mixer_applet2 2193  ron   21r   CHR  116,9  0t0 3204
 /dev/snd/controlC0

 Everything is normal with aqualung, but it looks like flashplayer does
 not even try to play audio. On my Sid systems it is not bothered at all
 by the fact that kmix has /dev/snd/controlC0 open, it simply uses
 /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p and /dev/snd/timer as needed.

 You could run iceweasel under strace:

strace -f -efile -o iceweasel-flash.strace iceweasel

 Let a flash video play silently for a few seconds and then close the
 browser. Afterwards you can check what has been accessed:

grep -E 'a(lsa|sound)|/dev/(a?dsp|audio|mixer|snd)'
 iceweasel-flash.strace


 http://members.cox.net/ron.l.johnson/iceweasel-flash.strace.grep.txt

 This might not be useful, since v3.6.4 uses plugin process separation.

 Before you break out the big guns, though, you can try to set
 ICEWEASEL_DSP to aoss (assuming you have oss-compat installed), or

 Didn't work.
 members.cox.net/ron.l.johnson/iceweasel-flash.aoss.strace.grep.txt

 maybe installing flashplugin-nonfree-extrasound will help, or switching

 Didn't work either.

 http://members.cox.net/ron.l.johnson/iceweasel-flash.aoss.extra.strace.grep.txt

 from flashplugin-nonfree to flashplayer-mozilla, or vice versa. (I did
 not read the entire thread, maybe some of these things were already
 suggested.)


 flashplayer-mozilla has never worked for me.

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Sorry to be stubborn...  And this time?  The flashplayer-mozilla from
debian-multimedia has always worked for me on both both i686 and newer
amd64 boxes, including old boxes with just usb audio device.  The
amd64 unstable version of flashplayer-mozilla from debian multimedia
depends upon some ia32 libraries as of current unstable...  Right now
1:10.1.53.64-0.0 (i686) or 2:10.1.53.64-0.0 (amd64)...  I don't have
any other flash player supplier installed, just in case...

BTW, alsamixer only shows to me PCM and Auto Gain Control, and that
doesn't seem to be a problem...

Hope you find what's inhibiting flash to work on your box...  And
again, sorry to suggest something you already discarded given your
experience...

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Xorg vt07 is abnormal

2010-07-18 Thread T o n g
Hi,

Due to some unknown error to me, having quit my malfunctioning X, my 
startx can't get into vt07 any more, but only into vt08. 

I.e., CTRL-ALT-F7 gives me a black text screen, while CTRL-ALT-F8 is my 
started X. 

 startx -- :1

starts xorg in vt08 as well. If the vt08 is occupied, then I got the 
following error:


$ sudo cat /var/log/Xorg.1.log
_XSERVTransSocketINETCreateListener: ...SocketCreateListener() failed
_XSERVTransMakeAllCOTSServerListeners: server already running

Fatal server error:
Cannot establish any listening sockets - Make sure an X server isn't 
already running

Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support 
 at http://wiki.x.org
 for help. 
Please also check the log file at /var/log/Xorg.1.log for additional 
information.

(WW) xf86CloseConsole: KDSETMODE failed: Bad file descriptor
(WW) xf86CloseConsole: VT_GETMODE failed: Bad file descriptor


Also, under console doing ps -eaf doesn't show anything related to x.

How can I fix my current situation? Please help. 

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Re: Synaptic / Could not download all repository indexes

2010-07-18 Thread scar
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 This was already reported
 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=525409

good job finding that!  how were you able?  i searched for many strings
in the bugs and didn't find anything

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