[lenny]Hibernation depuis gdmgreeter
Bonjour, Je viens de constater que l'hibernation n'est pas proposer depuis gdmgreeter (login pour session graphique), alors qu'il l'est depuis ma session, et cela fonctionne très bien. Est-ce un choix Debian de ne pas avoir cette option avec gdmgreeter. Est-il possible de l'activer avec gdmgreeter ? -- Cordialement Grégory BULOT -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100815124959.148dd...@morpheus.bulot-fr.com
Xchat: problème avec DCC - WAS: 3G Orange vs SFR
Bonjour à tous, Voulant tester la fonction DCC (Direct Chat: dialogue en direct) du client IRC Xchat avec une connexion 3G+ Orange, je m'aperçois que cela ne fonctionne pas chez moi, ET CE, QUELLE QUE SOIT LA LIAISON avec Internet (3G ou ADSL filiaire ou WiFi). Il y a 5-6 ans et avant, j'étais un habitué des irc chats... J'avais débuté avec mIRC sous MSWIN 3.1... çà fait un bail... puis j'étais passé à XChat sous RedHat 6.0, puis sous RedHat 7.2. Dans ces temps anciens, il s'agissait de connexions RTC. Le DCC fonctionnait à merveille, sans jamais le moindre problème. Les versions dont je disposais alors, fonctionnaient avec leur propre GUI, pas sous Gnome, que je n'avais pas installé, mon interface graphique par défaut étant alors fvwm. Je ne suis pas certain d'avoir jamais jusqu'à ce jour testé Xchat avec une connexion ADSL Depuis lors, les versions ont évolué. Celles dont je dispose aujourd'hui sont les suivantes : - XChat 2.8.6 sur mon Desktop sous Debian Lenny - XChat 2.8.4 sur mon Laptop sous Ubuntu Hardy Heron Si je me connecte à un réseau et que je rejoigne un channel, tout se passe bien, et je puis dialoguer avec les personnes en ligne sur le forum. Mais, si je lance un DCC (/dcc chat Untel), cela ne fonctionne pas. J'ai d'abord essayé entre mes deux ordis, connectés, l'un sur mon ADSL filiaire, l'autre en WiFi de la même Livebox. Après le constat d'échec, j'ai demandé à une personne du forum de me lancer un DCC... Même échec. On a refait la manip en sens inverse (c'est moi qui ai lancé le DCC), et ce, sans plus de succès. Voici ce qui était observé : Depuis mon Desktop vers mon Laptop (Wolfcub vers Bernard78), je lance : /dcc chat Bernard78 Apparaît alors une boîte de dialogue: XChat : liste de Chat DCC Etat : Attente Pseudonyme : Bernard78 Reçu : 0B Envoyé : 0B deux boutons : Interrompre, et accepter. Accepter est grisé (normal puisque c'est moi qui ai lancé la demande) Sur l'autre ordi, le Laptop, apparaît aussi une boîte de dialogue : Etat : Attente Pseudonyme : Wolfcub Reçu : 0B Envoyé : 0B et deux boutons : interrompre et accepter, aucun n'étant grisé. Je clique sur Accepter Alors :Etat passe de Attente à Actif, et ce, sur chacun des deux ordis. Mais le bouton Accepter ne se grise pas après cette acceptation, et la boîte ne disparaît pas. Dans la fenêtre de dialogue, celle du canal (aucune nouvelle fenêtre ne s'étant ouverte pour le dialogue en direct sur cet ordi destinataire), apparaît le message: Connexion DCC CHAT établie à Wolfcub [ 90.3.74.46:44726]. Par contre, sur l'ordinateur émetteur de la demande, une nouvelle fenêtre s'est bien ouverte. Il s'y affiche le message suivant : Connexion DCC CHAT établie à Bernard78 [91.121.58.120:44726]. Et la boîte de dialogue n'a pas disparu (Interrompre, Accepter (grisé)) Si je tape un message pour Bernard78, il s'affiche bien dans la fenêtre Bernard78 du même ordi émetteur, mais rien n'arrive chez Bernard78 sur l'ordi récepteur, ou alors je ne sais pas où trouver le message, puisqu'aucune nouvelle fenêtre ne s'est ouverte pour le DCC Chat. Sur cet ordi là, si je reclique sur Accepter (non grisé), rien de nouveau ne se produit J'ai ainsi essayé au moins une dizaine de fois, dont deux fois avec une personne extérieure. Une fois et une seule - c'était entre mes deux ordis - j'ai obtenu une connexion DCC Chat avec les deux fenêtres opérationnelles : c'était après divers essais, je crois me souvenir que c'était après un clic sur Interrompre, mais je n'ai pas su reproduire le phénomène. Il s'agit là d'une demande depuis mon Desktop (Lenny, XChat 2.8.6) vers mon Laptop (Ubuntu Hardy Heron, XChat 2.8.4). L'essai inverse a bien évidemment été fait, avec les mêmes résultats. Une personne contactée sur un canal du réseau Epiknet, devant le récit de mes échecs, a eu ces mots : De toutes façons, le DCC CHAT çà déconne 90% du temps Qu'est-ce à dire ? Cà fonctionnait à merveille autrefois... S'il s'agit bien là d'une réalité, est-ce dû au mode de connexion (ADSL au lieu de RTC autrefois), ou bien à un bug dans les nouvelles versions, ou encore, au fait qu'Orange (mon FAI) aurait mis des verrous même pour les connexions ADSL filiaires comme il avoue le faire avec le 3G ? J'ai également essayé avec le 3G+ de SFR : çà donne exactement les mêmes résultats... Ceci étant fait, je suis passé à l'essai du 3G+ d'Orange : même résultat, ou presque... Voici ce qui justifie le presque : Avec Orange 3G, (et contrairement à SFR 3G et à Orange ADSL filiaire ou WiFi), la connexion au réseau IRC (irc.epiknet.org ici, mais c'est pareil avec irc.dalnet.org etc...), j'ai à peu près ceci (de mémoire) : Votre réseau a été trouvé. Connexion à Epiknet. Could not identify your hostname. Using your IP address instead... Ensuite la connexion finit par se réaliser, et, une fois rejoint un canal, la discussion est possible sur le forum (mais le DCC CHAT n'est pas plus opérationnel que lors des
Ma Debian victime de l'exploit dd_ssh ... Oh my god !
Bonjour, Mardi, mon serveur a été victime de l'exploit dd_ssh/vm.c http://news.softpedia.com/news/Compromised-Web-Servers-Used-to-Build-SSH-Brute-Force-Botnet-151779.shtml Mon fournisseur m'a vérrouillé mon serveur. J'ai une copie en lecture seule si nécessaire (accès FTP). Ce serveur était update-to-date Debian (pas d'autre dépôt). A priori, la faille provient de phpMyAdmin, une version ancienne (mais qui doit être celle de ma Debian 5.0.4). Je suis entrain de rechercher d'autres preuves d'intrusion... Question: Perso, mon système est compromis, je serais dans l'obligation de le réainstaller plustard et ça ne me pose aucune soucis (sauvegarde distante ok) Pour Debian: Existe-il un groupe intéressé par ce genre d'attaque ? Si nécesssaire je peux mettre mon système (une copie) à dispo sur le net pour diag En espérant que ça puisse aider à d'autre. Bonne journée. Salokine -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201008151600.24865.salokine.ter...@free.fr
Re: Xchat: problème avec DCC - WAS: 3G Orange vs SF R
bonjour, les DCC chats requiert l ouverture de ports dans le routeur ( idem pour toutes les formes de dcc ). suite a divers tests, il s avere ( pour une raison que j ignore ) qu il faut ouvrir plusieurs ports . 59 en tcp et des fois mais bon pas toujours : 1024 en tcp 1025 en udp ( bizarre mais aucune explication ) je n ai pas d explication precise sur les raisons. par contre concernant la 3G, etant donné que si je ne me trompe pas, il est impossible d ouvrir les ports, cela risque de poser quelques soucis. mes 2 centimes ours_en_pluche
[HS]Re: Ma Debian victime de l'exploit dd_ssh ... Oh my god !
Bonjour, Mardi, mon serveur a été victime de l'exploit dd_ssh/vm.c j'ai pas de réponse à votre problème, mais merci d'avoir posté, car je ne connaissais pas cette faille/attaque je tacherais d'être vigilant -- Cordialement Grégory BULOT -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100815162947.3eb00...@morpheus.bulot-fr.com
Re: Ma Debian victime de l'exploit dd_ssh ... Oh my god !
salut, plus d'info ici: http://isc.sans.edu/diary.html?nstoryid=9370 je serai d'ailleurs intéressé pour consulter les logs dont tu disposes. merci Le 15 août 2010 16:00, Salokine Terata salokine.ter...@free.fr a écrit : Bonjour, Mardi, mon serveur a été victime de l'exploit dd_ssh/vm.c http://news.softpedia.com/news/Compromised-Web-Servers-Used-to-Build-SSH-Brute-Force-Botnet-151779.shtml Mon fournisseur m'a vérrouillé mon serveur. J'ai une copie en lecture seule si nécessaire (accès FTP). Ce serveur était update-to-date Debian (pas d'autre dépôt). A priori, la faille provient de phpMyAdmin, une version ancienne (mais qui doit être celle de ma Debian 5.0.4). Je suis entrain de rechercher d'autres preuves d'intrusion... Question: Perso, mon système est compromis, je serais dans l'obligation de le réainstaller plustard et ça ne me pose aucune soucis (sauvegarde distante ok) Pour Debian: Existe-il un groupe intéressé par ce genre d'attaque ? Si nécesssaire je peux mettre mon système (une copie) à dispo sur le net pour diag En espérant que ça puisse aider à d'autre. Bonne journée. Salokine -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201008151600.24865.salokine.ter...@free.fr
Re: Xchat: problème avec DCC - WAS: 3G Orange vs SFR
sebastien delbarre wrote: bonjour, les DCC chats requiert l ouverture de ports dans le routeur ( idem pour toutes les formes de dcc ). suite a divers tests, il s avere ( pour une raison que j ignore ) qu il faut ouvrir plusieurs ports . 59 en tcp et des fois mais bon pas toujours : 1024 en tcp 1025 en udp ( bizarre mais aucune explication ) je n ai pas d explication precise sur les raisons. par contre concernant la 3G, etant donné que si je ne me trompe pas, il est impossible d ouvrir les ports, cela risque de poser quelques soucis. mes 2 centimes ours_en_pluche Merci pour cette réponse. Voilà donc pourquoi cela fonctionnait en RTC (le FAI devait avoir ces ports ouverts dans son routeur), et pas en ADSL (car je ne me suis pas soucié d'ouvrir ces ports) -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c6801e1.9020...@teaser.fr
[lenny]Redmine c'est possible ?
Bonjour, ça fait plusieurs tutos que j'essais pour installer redmine, mais c'est toujours un échec pour les pré-requis. je bloque toujours au même endroit : rake db:migrate RAILS_ENV=production (in /home/redmine/redmine-1.0.0) rake aborted! Could not find RubyGem rack (~ 1.0.1) # gem install -v=1.0.1 rails ERROR: could not find gem rails locally or in a repository # gem environment RubyGems Environment: - RUBYGEMS VERSION: 1.2.0 - RUBY VERSION: 1.8.7 (2008-08-11 patchlevel 72) [i486-linux] - INSTALLATION DIRECTORY: /var/lib/gems/1.8 - RUBY EXECUTABLE: /usr/bin/ruby1.8 - EXECUTABLE DIRECTORY: /var/lib/gems/1.8/bin - RUBYGEMS PLATFORMS: - ruby - x86-linux - GEM PATHS: - /var/lib/gems/1.8 - GEM CONFIGURATION: - :update_sources = true - :verbose = true - :benchmark = false - :backtrace = false - :bulk_threshold = 1000 - REMOTE SOURCES: - http://gems.rubyforge.org/ # gem install rails ERROR: could not find gem rails locally or in a repository $ dpkg -l rubygems rails rack ii rails 2.1.0-7 ii rubygems 1.2.0-3 Aucun paquet ne correspond à rack. # gem list *** LOCAL GEMS *** # gem update --system ERROR: While executing gem ... (RuntimeError) gem update --system is disabled on Debian. RubyGems can be updated using the official Debian repositories by aptitude or apt-get. j'ai fais du : aptitude install install ruby rake librmagick-ruby subversion aptitude libmysql-ruby mysql-client rubygems aptitude install libfcgi-ruby1.8 97 aptitude install ruby rake rubygems aptitude aptitude install libmysql-ruby libopenssl-ruby aptitude install rails note : un tuto type essayé (celui est pour etch, mais ceux pour lenny sont équivalent pour le résultat) : http://howto.landure.fr/gnu-linux/debian-4-0-etch/installer-le-gestionnaire-de-projet-redmine-sur-debian-4-0-etch il y a eu un test ou je suis allé plus loin mais c'est activesupport qui foirait (sur incompatibilité de version entre rails et activesupport ) -- Cordialement Grégory BULOT -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100815170913.1a4d7...@morpheus.bulot-fr.com
Re: Xchat: problème avec DCC - WAS: 3G Orange vs SF R
de rien :) par contre, en dcc chat, n oublie pas que tu donnes ton ip reelle a l utilisateur, et sur xchat tu peux configurer un proxy au cas ou uniquement pour les dccs. apres si tu souhaites d autres renseignement concernant xchat, qui ne concerne pas la ML, n hesites pas en hors liste. mes 2 centimes ours_en_pluche
Re: Xchat: problème avec DCC - WAS: 3G Orange vs SFR
sebastien delbarre wrote: bonjour, les DCC chats requiert l ouverture de ports dans le routeur ( idem pour toutes les formes de dcc ). suite a divers tests, il s avere ( pour une raison que j ignore ) qu il faut ouvrir plusieurs ports . 59 en tcp et des fois mais bon pas toujours : 1024 en tcp 1025 en udp ( bizarre mais aucune explication ) Au final, il n'est pas certain que ce soit le problème. En effet, voici ce que me dit ma Livebox, lorsque j'en affiche les paramètres avec Firefox (http://192.168.1.1) : http://www.teaser.fr/~bdebreil/Livebox/Livebox1.jpg Sur l'image, on voit que UPnP est activé. Et que, normalement, si j'ai bien compris, les ports s'ouvrent en cas de besoin. Par ailleurs, mon système me dit : Connexion DCC établie avec xyz... (même si aucune fenêtre n'apparaît et si donc la gestion de ladite connexion paraît impossible). Je me demande si ce n'est pas un problème de GUI, ou encore, il se pourrait que l'ouverture de la nouvelle fenêtre soit sensé être déclenché par un PING, lequel n'arrive pas car cette fonction n'est pas activée en réception (voir plus loin). Pour le reste, les images qui suivent montrent la config de ma Livebox, et ce qu'il est possible d'y changer. Le mode DHCP est bien activé. Les options d'ouvertures de nouveaux ports ne me semblent pas appropriés quant aux plages proposées pour chaque mode et, de toutes façons, il est bien précisé qu'il est indispensable d'ouvrir également lesdits ports dans le pare feu, ce qui paraît très risqué ici. En effet, pour pouvoir accéder à ce re-paramètrage, il est nécessaire de désactiver le mode par défaut sécurité moyenne, et alors je ne saurais pas quels autres paramètres indiquer. Cette manip risquée serait pourtant indispensable si je souhaitais activer la réception des PING. Voici donc les autres images des options de config disponibles pour ma Livebox, à visualiser de préférence dans l'ordre : http://www.teaser.fr/~bdebreil/Livebox/Livebox2.jpg http://www.teaser.fr/~bdebreil/Livebox/Livebox3.jpg http://www.teaser.fr/~bdebreil/Livebox/Livebox3a.jpg http://www.teaser.fr/~bdebreil/Livebox/2970.jpg http://www.teaser.fr/~bdebreil/Livebox/2971.jpg http://www.teaser.fr/~bdebreil/Livebox/Livebox3b.jpg http://www.teaser.fr/~bdebreil/Livebox/Livebox4.jpg http://www.teaser.fr/~bdebreil/Livebox/Livebox4a.jpg http://www.teaser.fr/~bdebreil/Livebox/Livebox4b.jpg je n ai pas d explication precise sur les raisons. par contre concernant la 3G, etant donné que si je ne me trompe pas, il est impossible d ouvrir les ports, cela risque de poser quelques soucis. mes 2 centimes ours_en_pluche -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c68225e.3060...@teaser.fr
Re: Xchat: problème avec DCC - WAS: 3G Orange vs SFR
Le Sun, 15 Aug 2010 19:22:38 +0200, Bernard bdebr...@teaser.fr a écrit : ... Sur l'image, on voit que UPnP est activé. Et que, normalement, si j'ai bien compris, les ports s'ouvrent en cas de besoin. Par ailleurs, mon Encore faut-il que le pgm en question utilise aussi l'uPNP (et soit donc à même de négocier ce dont il a besoin avec la box)... -- It's illegal in Wilbur, Washington, to ride an ugly horse. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100815201413.01232...@anubis.defcon1
Re: Ma Debian victime de l'exploit dd_ssh ... Oh my god !
Bonjour Je comprends mieux pourquoi j'ai eu ça dans mon error.log Fri Aug 13 21:14:00 2010] [error] [client 83.170.113.47] File does not exist: /var/www/phpMyAdmin-2 [Fri Aug 13 21:14:00 2010] [error] [client 83.170.113.47] File does not exist: /var/www/php-my-admin [Fri Aug 13 21:14:00 2010] [error] [client 83.170.113.47] File does not exist: /var/www/phpMyAdmin-2.2.3 [Fri Aug 13 21:14:00 2010] [error] [client 83.170.113.47] File does not exist: /var/www/phpMyAdmin-2.2.6 [Fri Aug 13 21:14:00 2010] [error] [client 83.170.113.47] File does not exist: /var/www/phpMyAdmin-2.5.1 [Fri Aug 13 21:14:00 2010] [error] [client 83.170.113.47] File does not exist: /var/www/phpMyAdmin-2.5.4 [Fri Aug 13 21:14:00 2010] [error] [client 83.170.113.47] File does not exist: /var/www/phpMyAdmin-2.5.5-rc1 [Fri Aug 13 21:14:00 2010] [error] [client 83.170.113.47] File does not exist: /var/www/phpMyAdmin-2.5.5-rc2 [Fri Aug 13 21:14:01 2010] [error] [client 83.170.113.47] File does not exist: /var/www/phpMyAdmin-2.5.5 [Fri Aug 13 21:14:01 2010] [error] [client 83.170.113.47] File does not exist: /var/www/phpMyAdmin-2.5.5-pl1 [Fri Aug 13 21:14:01 2010] [error] [client 83.170.113.47] File does not exist: /var/www/phpMyAdmin-2.5.6-rc1 [Fri Aug 13 21:14:01 2010] [error] [client 83.170.113.47] File does not exist: /var/www/phpMyAdmin-2.5.6-rc2 [Fri Aug 13 21:14:01 2010] [error] [client 83.170.113.47] File does not exist: /var/www/phpMyAdmin-2.5.6 [Fri Aug 13 21:14:01 2010] [error] [client 83.170.113.47] File does not exist: /var/www/phpMyAdmin-2.5.7 [Fri Aug 13 21:14:01 2010] [error] [client 83.170.113.47] File does not exist: /var/www/phpMyAdmin-2.5.7-pl1 [Fri Aug 13 21:14:01 2010] [error] [client 83.170.113.47] File does not exist: /var/www/phpMyAdmin-2.6.0-alpha [Fri Aug 13 21:14:02 2010] [error] [client 83.170.113.47] File does not exist: /var/www/phpMyAdmin-2.6.0-alpha2 [Fri Aug 13 21:14:02 2010] [error] [client 83.170.113.47] File does not exist: /var/www/phpMyAdmin-2.6.0-beta1 [Fri Aug 13 21:14:02 2010] [error] [client 83.170.113.47] File does not exist: /var/www/phpMyAdmin-2.6.0-beta2 [Fri Aug 13 21:14:02 2010] [error] [client 83.170.113.47] File does not exist: /var/www/phpMyAdmin-2.6.0-rc1 [Fri Aug 13 21:14:02 2010] [error] [client 83.170.113.47] File does not exist: /var/www/phpMyAdmin-2.6.0-rc2 [Fri Aug 13 21:14:02 2010] [error] [client 83.170.113.47] File does not exist: /var/www/phpMyAdmin-2.6.0-rc3 [Fri Aug 13 21:14:02 2010] [error] [client 83.170.113.47] File does not exist: /var/www/phpMyAdmin-2.6.0 [Fri Aug 13 21:14:03 2010] [error] [client 83.170.113.47] File does not exist: /var/www/phpMyAdmin-2.6.0-pl1 [Fri Aug 13 21:14:03 2010] [error] [client 83.170.113.47] File does not exist: /var/www/phpMyAdmin-2.6.0-pl2 [Fri Aug 13 21:14:03 2010] [error] [client 83.170.113.47] File does not exist: /var/www/phpMyAdmin-2.6.0-pl3 [Fri Aug 13 21:14:03 2010] [error] [client 83.170.113.47] File does not exist: /var/www/phpMyAdmin-2.6.1-rc1 [Fri Aug 13 21:14:03 2010] [error] [client 83.170.113.47] File does not exist: /var/www/phpMyAdmin-2.6.1-rc2 [Fri Aug 13 21:14:03 2010] [error] [client 83.170.113.47] File does not exist: /var/www/phpMyAdmin-2.6.1 [Fri Aug 13 21:14:03 2010] [error] [client 83.170.113.47] File does not exist: /var/www/phpMyAdmin-2.6.1-pl1 [Fri Aug 13 21:14:03 2010] [error] [client 83.170.113.47] File does not exist: /var/www/phpMyAdmin-2.6.1-pl2 [Fri Aug 13 21:14:04 2010] [error] [client 83.170.113.47] File does not exist: /var/www/phpMyAdmin-2.6.1-pl3 [Fri Aug 13 21:14:04 2010] [error] [client 83.170.113.47] File does not exist: /var/www/phpMyAdmin-2.6.2-rc1 [Fri Aug 13 21:14:04 2010] [error] [client 83.170.113.47] File does not exist: /var/www/phpMyAdmin-2.6.2-beta1 [Fri Aug 13 21:14:04 2010] [error] [client 83.170.113.47] File does not exist: /var/www/phpMyAdmin-2.6.2-rc1 [Fri Aug 13 21:14:04 2010] [error] [client 83.170.113.47] File does not exist: /var/www/phpMyAdmin-2.6.2 [Fri Aug 13 21:14:04 2010] [error] [client 83.170.113.47] File does not exist: /var/www/phpMyAdmin-2.6.2-rc1 [Fri Aug 13 21:14:04 2010] [error] [client 83.170.113.47] File does not exist: /var/www/phpMyAdmin-2.6.2 [Fri Aug 13 21:14:04 2010] [error] [client 83.170.113.47] File does not exist: /var/www/phpMyAdmin-2.6.2-pl1 [Fri Aug 13 21:14:04 2010] [error] [client 83.170.113.47] File does not exist: /var/www/phpMyAdmin-2.6.3 [Fri Aug 13 21:14:04 2010] [error] [client 83.170.113.47] File does not exist: /var/www/phpMyAdmin-2.6.3-rc1 [Fri Aug 13 21:14:05 2010] [error] [client 83.170.113.47] File does not exist: /var/www/phpMyAdmin-2.6.3 [Fri Aug 13 21:14:05 2010] [error] [client 83.170.113.47] File does not exist: /var/www/phpMyAdmin-2.6.3-pl1 [Fri Aug 13 21:14:05 2010] [error] [client 83.170.113.47] File does not exist: /var/www/phpMyAdmin-2.6.4-rc1 [Fri Aug 13 21:14:05 2010] [error] [client 83.170.113.47] File does not exist: /var/www/phpMyAdmin-2.6.4-pl1 [Fri Aug 13 21:14:05 2010] [error] [client 83.170.113.47] File does not exist:
Re: Xchat: problème avec DCC - WAS: 3G Orange vs SF R
re a priori Xchat ne gere pas en natif l UPNP : http://forum.xchat.org/viewtopic.php?p=11894 a la fin, un script est proposé pour pallier a ce soucis. mes 2 centimes ours_en_pluche
Re: Ma Debian victime de l'exploit dd_ssh ... Oh my god !
On Sun, 15 Aug 2010 16:27:16 +0200 Cornichon cornicho...@gmail.com wrote: Ce serveur était update-to-date Debian (pas d'autre dépôt). A priori, la faille provient de phpMyAdmin, une version ancienne (mais qui doit être celle de ma Debian 5.0.4). De même je ne connaissais pas ce problème. Je viens de vérifier mes serveur (pas de phpMyAdmin heureusement) et effectivement beaucoup de logs de ce style : 200.111.13.242 - - [08/Aug/2010:21:53:28 +0200] GET /nosuichfile.php HTTP/1.1 404 1739 - Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.6) Gecko/20100625 Firefox/3.6.6 200.111.13.242 - - [08/Aug/2010:21:53:28 +0200] GET /noxdir/nosuichfile.php HTTP/1.1 404 1739 - Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.6) Gecko/20100625 Firefox/3.6.6 200.111.13.242- - [08/Aug/2010:21:53:28 +0200] GET /PMA/scripts/setup.php HTTP/1.1 404 1739 - Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.6) Gecko/20100625 Firefox/3.6.6 200.111.13.242 - - [08/Aug/2010:21:53:29 +0200] GET /PMA2005/scripts/setup.php HTTP/1.1 404 1739 - Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.6) Gecko/20100625 Firefox/3.6.6 200.111.13.242 - - [08/Aug/2010:21:53:29 +0200] GET /admin/mysql/scripts/setup.php HTTP/1.1 404 1739 - Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.6) Gecko/20100625 Firefox/3.6.6 200.111.13.242 - - [08/Aug/2010:21:53:29 +0200] GET /admin/phpmyadmin/scripts/setup.php HTTP/1.1 404 1739 - Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.6) Gecko/20100625 Firefox/3.6.6 Néanmoins et si j'ai bien compris ce que je viens de lire, cette faille de phpMyAdmin a été corrigé au mois d'avril de cette année par Debian. Donc le serveur n'était pas vraiment ce que l'on appelle à jour, non ? Sinon bon courage pour ta re-installation. Cordialement. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100815202648.6b862...@debian1-home.aygalenq.net
Re: Ma Debian victime de l'exploit dd_ssh ... Oh my god !
Le 15 août 2010 20:26, JC jc2...@aygalenq.net a écrit : Néanmoins et si j'ai bien compris ce que je viens de lire, cette faille de phpMyAdmin a été corrigé au mois d'avril de cette année par Debian. Donc le serveur n'était pas vraiment ce que l'on appelle à jour, non ? Effectivement, ceci a été corrigé le 17 avril ; voir les CVE-2008-7251, CVE-2008-7252 et CVE-2009-4605. Plus généralement, je m'interroge sur la nécessité d'avoir un phpmyadmin accessible de l'extérieur. Une application à ce point sensible devrait au pire être protégée par de solides ACLs. Les mises à jours de sécurité proposées par debian ne suffisent pas. Les 0 day d'apache ou phpmyadmin sont loin d'être rares.
Re: Ma Debian victime de l'exploit dd_ssh ... Oh my god !
Des 0-Day Apache pas rares ? Je serais curieux d'avoir quelques exemples. Parce que des failles PhpMyAdmin, OK, des failles Webmail je veux bien, des failles Apaches même d'accord, mais des 0-Day Apache, ça fait un sacré bail que je n'en ai pas vu. Cordialement, JB On 15/08/2010 20:41, Cornichon wrote: Le 15 août 2010 20:26, JC jc2...@aygalenq.net mailto:jc2...@aygalenq.net a écrit : Néanmoins et si j'ai bien compris ce que je viens de lire, cette faille de phpMyAdmin a été corrigé au mois d'avril de cette année par Debian. Donc le serveur n'était pas vraiment ce que l'on appelle à jour, non ? Effectivement, ceci a été corrigé le 17 avril ; voir les CVE-2008-7251, CVE-2008-7252 et CVE-2009-4605. Plus généralement, je m'interroge sur la nécessité d'avoir un phpmyadmin accessible de l'extérieur. Une application à ce point sensible devrait au pire être protégée par de solides ACLs. Les mises à jours de sécurité proposées par debian ne suffisent pas. Les 0 day d'apache ou phpmyadmin sont loin d'être rares. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c684002.8010...@jbfavre.org
Re: [HS] IPoT [était: Re: Debian Testing et Google Earth]
Le 14/08/2010 23:21, Sylvain Sauvage a écrit : Deux mois environ. En testing avec le noyau 2.6.60.2 64 bits. ^^ Ça marche bien IPoT ? Oups ! Merci de signaler l'erreur de mon clavier. C'est le 2.6.30.2, bien sûr. J'en profite pour ajouter qu'un pilote d'affichage 3D est indispensable au fonctionnement de GoogleEarth. Il est possible que l'installation n'aboutisse pas en l'absence d'un tel pilote. -- François -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/i49jr3$9e...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Ma Debian victime de l'exploit dd_ssh ... Oh my god !
Bonjour, jc2...@aygalenq.net: Pour le up-to-date ... probablement pas depuis Avril ... Ma version de phpMyAdmin est malheureusement : 4:2.11.8.1-5+lenny3 Dommage pour moi: http://www.debian.org/security/2010/dsa-2034 cornicho...@gmail.com: Pour l'accès depuis l'exterieur. Il s'agit d'un serveur dédié hébergé. Donc besoin de ce type d'accès. Je retiens la solution des ACLs et me pose la question d'un accès sur un port IP dédié avec HTTPS + certificats ... à voir. Les fichiers relatif à l'exploit étaient stockés dans /tmp, j'ai fait une archive: http://www.humyo.fr/FVpDCQY/tmp-dd_ssh-files.7z?a=9xXH2mA72fQ Dans les logs, ce sont les logs Apache qui prouve l'intrusion. J'ai des IP mais ce doit être à gars comme moi qui s'est fait piraté... même pas je cherche à savoir, perte de temps je n'ai pas la compétence ni la volonté de m'y confronter) Bref, manque de vigilance de ma part. Loin de moi l'idée de remettre en cause la sécurité du système Debian. Il s'agit bel et bien d'une erreur de ma part. Existe-il un programme permettant de réaliser de manière automatique et silencieuse la mise à jour type aptitude safe-upgrade avec un petit rapport par mail lorsque des mises à jour ont été installées ou lorsque celles-ci nécessite une intervention humaine ? Encore merci pour vos réponses et bonne soirée à tous. Salokine. Pour finir: Log Apache montrant l'attaque: 193.27.193.74 - - [10/Aug/2010:09:32:31 +0200] GET /nosuichfile.php HTTP/1.1 404 270 - Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.6) Gecko/20100625 Firefox/3.6.6 193.27.193.74 - - [10/Aug/2010:09:32:31 +0200] GET /noxdir/nosuichfile.php HTTP/1.1 404 274 - Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.6) Gecko/20100625 Firefox/3.6.6 193.27.193.74 - - [10/Aug/2010:09:32:31 +0200] GET /PMA/scripts/setup.php HTTP/1.1 404 274 - Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.6) Gecko/20100625 Firefox/3.6.6 193.27.193.74 - - [10/Aug/2010:09:32:31 +0200] GET /PMA2005/scripts/setup.php HTTP/1.1 404 277 - Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.6) Gecko/20100625 Firefox/3.6.6 193.27.193.74 - - [10/Aug/2010:09:32:31 +0200] GET /admin/mysql/scripts/setup.php HTTP/1.1 404 279 - Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.6) Gecko/20100625 Firefox/3.6.6 193.27.193.74 - - [10/Aug/2010:09:32:31 +0200] GET /admin/phpmyadmin/scripts/setup.php HTTP/1.1 404 280 - Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.6) Gecko/20100625 Firefox/3.6.6 193.27.193.74 - - [10/Aug/2010:09:32:31 +0200] GET /admin/pma/scripts/setup.php HTTP/1.1 404 277 - Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.6) Gecko/20100625 Firefox/3.6.6 193.27.193.74 - - [10/Aug/2010:09:32:31 +0200] GET /admin/scripts/setup.php HTTP/1.1 404 274 - Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.6) Gecko/20100625 Firefox/3.6.6 193.27.193.74 - - [10/Aug/2010:09:32:31 +0200] GET /db/scripts/setup.php HTTP/1.1 404 273 - Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.6) Gecko/20100625 Firefox/3.6.6 193.27.193.74 - - [10/Aug/2010:09:32:31 +0200] GET /dbadmin/scripts/setup.php HTTP/1.1 404 276 - Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.6) Gecko/20100625 Firefox/3.6.6 193.27.193.74 - - [10/Aug/2010:09:32:31 +0200] GET /myadmin/scripts/setup.php HTTP/1.1 404 276 - Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.6) Gecko/20100625 Firefox/3.6.6 193.27.193.74 - - [10/Aug/2010:09:32:31 +0200] GET /mysql-admin/scripts/setup.php HTTP/1.1 404 280 - Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.6) Gecko/20100625 Firefox/3.6.6 193.27.193.74 - - [10/Aug/2010:09:32:31 +0200] GET /mysql/scripts/setup.php HTTP/1.1 404 275 - Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.6) Gecko/20100625 Firefox/3.6.6 193.27.193.74 - - [10/Aug/2010:09:32:31 +0200] GET /mysqladmin/scripts/setup.php HTTP/1.1 404 278 - Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.6) Gecko/20100625 Firefox/3.6.6 193.27.193.74 - - [10/Aug/2010:09:32:31 +0200] GET /mysqlmanager/scripts/setup.php HTTP/1.1 404 281 - Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.6) Gecko/20100625 Firefox/3.6.6 193.27.193.74 - - [10/Aug/2010:09:32:31 +0200] GET /p/m/a/scripts/setup.php HTTP/1.1 404 275 - Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.6) Gecko/20100625 Firefox/3.6.6 193.27.193.74 - - [10/Aug/2010:09:32:32 +0200] GET /pHpMy/scripts/setup.php HTTP/1.1 404 275 - Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.6) Gecko/20100625 Firefox/3.6.6 193.27.193.74 - - [10/Aug/2010:09:32:32 +0200] GET /pHpMyAdMiN/scripts/setup.php HTTP/1.1 404 279 - Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.6) Gecko/20100625 Firefox/3.6.6 193.27.193.74 - - [10/Aug/2010:09:32:32 +0200] GET /php-my-admin/scripts/setup.php HTTP/1.1 404 279 - Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.6) Gecko/20100625 Firefox/3.6.6
rsync vers un serveur ssh avec un port différen t de 22 + authentification clé publique
Bonsoir, J'aimerais effectuer des copies de dossier avec rsync par ssh mais avec un serveur cible sur un port différent de 22. J'ai installé sur le serveur distant une clé publique pour pouvoir faire la copie sans demander de mot de passe pour que ca puisse être automatisé par la suite. Je remarque que : ssh -p u...@host_dest marche. Mais: rsync --rsh='ssh -' test.txt u...@host_dest: donne: sh: rsync: command not found rsync: connection unexpectedly closed (0 bytes received so far) [sender] rsync error: error in rsync protocol data stream (code 12) at io.c(635) [sender=3.0.3] De même pour rsync -e 'ssh -p' :-( Bizarre, car j'ai vu cette syntaxe sur de nombreux tutos. J'ai aussi essayé de mettre dans le répertoire .ssh du user de la machine source, au niveau du fichier config: Host alias_host_dest hostname host_dest port puis: rsync test.txt u...@alias_host_dest: Mais: ssh u...@alias_host_dest fonctionne aussi nikel sans demander de mdp... La machine source est sous debian lenny et la cible est une VM sous Debian lenny aussi. Une idée? Merci :-) -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c686385.2050...@tbzone.org
Re: rsync vers un serveur ssh avec un port différent de 22 + authentification clé publique
Le 16/08/2010 00:00, Thierry B a écrit : Bonsoir, J'aimerais effectuer des copies de dossier avec rsync par ssh mais avec un serveur cible sur un port différent de 22. J'ai installé sur le serveur distant une clé publique pour pouvoir faire la copie sans demander de mot de passe pour que ca puisse être automatisé par la suite. Je remarque que : ssh -p u...@host_dest marche. Mais: rsync --rsh='ssh -' test.txt u...@host_dest: donne: sh: rsync: command not found rsync: connection unexpectedly closed (0 bytes received so far) [sender] rsync error: error in rsync protocol data stream (code 12) at io.c(635) [sender=3.0.3] De même pour rsync -e 'ssh -p' :-( Bizarre, car j'ai vu cette syntaxe sur de nombreux tutos. J'ai aussi essayé de mettre dans le répertoire .ssh du user de la machine source, au niveau du fichier config: Host alias_host_dest hostname host_dest port puis: rsync test.txt u...@alias_host_dest: Mais: ssh u...@alias_host_dest fonctionne aussi nikel sans demander de mdp... La machine source est sous debian lenny et la cible est une VM sous Debian lenny aussi. Une idée? Merci :-) Désolé, En fait, c'est juste qu'il n'y avait pas rsync d'installer sur la VM distante...lol. Bonne soirée. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c6868dd.7050...@tbzone.org
Re: Ma Debian victime de l'exploit dd_ssh ... Oh my god !
Le Sunday 15 August 2010 23:44:38 Salokine Terata, vous avez écrit : Bonjour, Bonsoir, [...] Existe-il un programme permettant de réaliser de manière automatique et silencieuse la mise à jour type aptitude safe-upgrade avec un petit rapport par mail lorsque des mises à jour ont été installées ou lorsque celles-ci nécessite une intervention humaine ? Il y a bien unattended-upgrades. Mais moi, je préfère avoir cron-apt qui me prévient quand il y a des mise à jour à faire. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: Debian Testing et Google Earth
Le Sat, 14 Aug 2010 18:42:12 +0200 Thierry Chatelet tchate...@free.fr a écrit: On Saturday 14 August 2010 00:43:13 Thierry Chatelet wrote: En fait, si tu peux attendre demain dans la journée, je dois installer un ordi en squeeze 32 bits. J' essaierai de mettre googleearth dessus et je te tiens au courant. Thierry Pas de chance, je n' arrive pas à fa ire le paquet. J'ai une longue liste d'erreurs disant que le fichier googleearth peut être conrrompu. Je suis désolé, mais comme je dois livrer le pc ce soir, je ne peux pas chercher plus longtemps d'ou vient le problème. Thierry Bon pour l'instant j'ai réussi à faire un paquet pour la version 5.1.3535.3218. La version 5.2 actuellement en ligne semble passablement bugguée. J'attends donc que la suite situation s'améliore. Gaëtan -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100816003638.21844918.gaetan.perr...@neuf.fr
Re: Ma Debian victime de l'exploit dd_ssh ... Oh my god !
Pour l'accès depuis l'exterieur. Il s'agit d'un serveur dédié hébergé. Donc besoin de ce type d'accès. Je retiens la solution des ACLs et me pose la question d'un accès sur un port IP dédié avec HTTPS + certificats ... à voir. En effet si un accès phpMyAdmin est absolument nécessaire la simple mise en place d'un acces en https avec login + mot de passe devrait déjà limiter fortement l'accès aux fichiers du dit phpMyAdmin. Les fichiers relatif à l'exploit étaient stockés dans /tmp, j'ai fait une archive: http://www.humyo.fr/FVpDCQY/tmp-dd_ssh-files.7z?a=9xXH2mA72fQ Merci. Toujours intéressant de jeter un oeil. Bref, manque de vigilance de ma part. Ca nous arrive à tous malheureusement ... pour une raison ou une autre. Pour le up-to-date ... probablement pas depuis Avril ... Ma version de phpMyAdmin est malheureusement : 4:2.11.8.1-5+lenny3 Dommage pour moi: http://www.debian.org/security/2010/dsa-2034 Existe-il un programme permettant de réaliser de manière automatique et silencieuse la mise à jour type aptitude safe-upgrade avec un petit rapport par mail lorsque des mises à jour ont été installées ou lorsque celles-ci nécessite une intervention humaine ? Une solution simple peut déjà consister à être inscrit sur debian-security-annou...@lists.debian.org et ainsi voir les failles de sécurité régulièrement annoncés. Si t'es concernées tu fais une maj. Cordialement. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100816003958.219be...@debian1-home.aygalenq.net
Re: Ma Debian victime de l'exploit dd_ssh ... Oh my god !
Le 16 août 2010 00:39, JC jc2...@aygalenq.net a écrit : Pour l'accès depuis l'exterieur. Il s'agit d'un serveur dédié hébergé. Donc besoin de ce type d'accès. Je retiens la solution des ACLs et me pose la question d'un accès sur un port IP dédié avec HTTPS + certificats ... à voir. Il y a d'autres solutions... Tout d'abords, abandonner l'utilisation de phpmyadmin, pour des raisons de sécurités telles que celles-la, mais surtout... parce que c'est un script php couvert de bug... Et que tu peux planter ton serveur en voulant exécuter une requête (arrêter la page stop le script php, mais pas la requête mysql derrière = risque de problème). Je te conseille de passer plutôt par des solutions de type sqlyog ou mysql editor, ou autre. Et pour éviter d'ouvrir ton serveur mysql a n'importe qui, un petit vpn, et tu es tranquile. Ou mieux encore, vive la ligne de commande ;). Si vraiment tu veux utiliser cet outil, le minimum vital est de mettre un .htaccess. Ca limitera grandement les accès dessus. En effet si un accès phpMyAdmin est absolument nécessaire la simple mise en place d'un acces en https avec login + mot de passe devrait déjà limiter fortement l'accès aux fichiers du dit phpMyAdmin. Les fichiers relatif à l'exploit étaient stockés dans /tmp, j'ai fait une archive: http://www.humyo.fr/FVpDCQY/tmp-dd_ssh-files.7z?a=9xXH2mA72fQ Merci. Toujours intéressant de jeter un oeil. Bref, manque de vigilance de ma part. Ca nous arrive à tous malheureusement ... pour une raison ou une autre. Pour le up-to-date ... probablement pas depuis Avril ... Ma version de phpMyAdmin est malheureusement : 4:2.11.8.1-5+lenny3 Dommage pour moi: http://www.debian.org/security/2010/dsa-2034 Oula... Passe dans un premier temps à la version 3.3.5, plutot que de rester en 2.11! Existe-il un programme permettant de réaliser de manière automatique et silencieuse la mise à jour type aptitude safe-upgrade avec un petit rapport par mail lorsque des mises à jour ont été installées ou lorsque celles-ci nécessite une intervention humaine ? Attention a cela... TU n'est pas a l'abri d'un problème, ou d'une erreur! La mise a jour automatique, meme en safe-upgrade n'est jamais conseillée sur un serveur de production! Sysadmin, c'est un boulot à plein temps! A toi de faire tes mises à jours régulièrement! Par contre, tu peux déja installer un logiciel tel que fail2ban, et le paramétrer pour prendre en compte les pages logs apache. Il te permettra de bannir un utilisateur ayant rencontré X 404. Ca te limitera les risques. Olivier -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlkti=o67c_fy6a6czdtvtb-o9u_q2z5vdffwta0...@mail.gmail.com
Fwd: Errores al actualizar lenny a squeeze
[mil disculpas a Matias por el mail directo q le envie, se me olvida ] [q este google pone mal las respuestas] 2010/8/10 Matías A. Bellone matiasbell...@gmail.com: On 08/10/2010 12:06 PM, AlePando wrote: Me he instalado Debian lenny, pero al tratar de actualizar a squeeze me da el siguiente error: Unpacking replacement libjpeg62 ... Preparing to replace cupsddk 1.2.3-5 (using .../cupsddk_1.4.4-2_all.deb) ... Unpacking replacement cupsddk ... Processing triggers for man-db ... perl: warning: Setting locale failed. perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: LANGUAGE = (unset), LC_ALL = (unset), LANG = es_CL.UTF-8 are supported and installed on your system. perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale (C). /usr/bin/mandb: can't set the locale; make sure $LC_* and $LANG are correct manconv: can't set the locale; make sure $LC_* and $LANG are correct manconv: can't set the locale; make sure $LC_* and $LANG are correct manconv: can't set the locale; make sure $LC_* and $LANG are correct manconv: can't set the locale; make sure $LC_* and $LANG are correct manconv: can't set the locale; make sure $LC_* and $LANG are correct manconv: can't set the locale; make sure $LC_* and $LANG are correct manconv: can't set the locale; make sure $LC_* and $LANG are correct manconv: can't set the locale; make sure $LC_* and $LANG are correct manconv: can't set the locale; make sure $LC_* and $LANG are correct manconv: can't set the locale; make sure $LC_* and $LANG are correct manconv: can't set the locale; make sure $LC_* and $LANG are correct manconv: can't set the locale; make sure $LC_* and $LANG are correct manconv: can't set the locale; make sure $LC_* and $LANG are correct manconv: can't set the locale; make sure $LC_* and $LANG are correct manconv: can't set the locale; make sure $LC_* and $LANG are correct manconv: can't set the locale; make sure $LC_* and $LANG are correct manconv: can't set the locale; make sure $LC_* and $LANG are correct manconv: can't set the locale; make sure $LC_* and $LANG are correct manconv: can't set the locale; make sure $LC_* and $LANG are correct manconv: can't set the locale; make sure $LC_* and $LANG are correct manconv: can't set the locale; make sure $LC_* and $LANG are correct manconv: can't set the locale; make sure $LC_* and $LANG are correct manconv: can't set the locale; make sure $LC_* and $LANG are correct manconv: can't set the locale; make sure $LC_* and $LANG are correct manconv: can't set the locale; make sure $LC_* and $LANG are correct manconv: can't set the locale; make sure $LC_* and $LANG are correct Processing triggers for python-support ... Processing triggers for menu ... Processing triggers for hal ... Regenerating hal fdi cache ... Restarting Hardware abstraction layer: hald. Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/udev_158-1_i386.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) ¿Que debo hacer? Cualquier pista se lo agradecere, pues ni san google da con la respuesta No estás viendo el bosque por los árboles :P Todos los mensajes que vos estás viendo no tienen absolutamente nada que ver con el problema real. Si te fijás al final del mensaje, dice clarito que el problema es el procesamiento del paquete udev, paquete que no mostrás en tu log. Pero habiendo actualizado un lenny a squeeze hace poco sé exactamente cuál es el problema y cómo solucionarlo. Problema: la versión de udev en squeeze necesita un kernel más nuevo que el que está en lenny y no actualiza si no estás corriendo ese kernel más nuevo... que no se va a instalar hasta que no deje de dar error udev :P Si... me habia leido varios tutoriales donde mencionaban que debia actualizar el kernel... pero al tratar de hacerlo da errores de dependencias y va quedando una ensalada que solo lleva a que quedan paquetes sin actualizarse y una lista cada vez mas grande de avisos de problemas cuando sigues intentando upgratear el sistema para dejarlo 'sanito' para actualizar a squeeze Solución: hay varias formas de solucionar esto. Una fácil y otra también fácil pero más técnicamente correcta. La técnicamente correcta es: crear un archivo con el siguiente comando $ touch /etc/udev/kernel-upgrade Eres un genio... magicamente ese insignificante archivo da la solución a tanta ensalada de errores que tenia Y probá de nuevo y tendría que andar. Si de las mil maravillas La que yo usé (antes de leer al respecto [1]): no hagas un upgrade masivo de lenny a squeeze. Primero actualizá el kernel y sus dependencias directas. Reinciá a ese nuevo kernel y luego terminá la actualización. Yo hie una variación de eso (sin tocar el aptitude o apt-get) aprovechando el hecho que aptitude ya me había bajado el paquete del nuevo kernel (y estaba en /var/cache/apt/archives) y lo instalé con dpkg -i y luego reinicié y continué el upgrade. Se ve interesante... lo
Re: Actualizacion de carpetas en Evolution
El Sat, 14 Aug 2010 07:29:57 -0500, Carlos Onelio Cazorla Machado escribió: (...) Pero esta claro, que aun sin activar esta opcion, debia descargar los nuevos mensajes al dar clic en el boton Enviar/Recibir, pero no lo hace. Tambien veo que mensajes que habia eliminado desde Evolution aun estan ahi cuando abro el buzon con otro cliente (Microsoft Outlook) y la preocupacion mayor es que pierda correos importantes. Si te preocupa no perder correos mejor cambiar de servidor a cualquier otro que no sea Exchange :-P Ahora hablando en serio, puede ser un bug. En Ubuntu tienen abierto uno parecido: *** evoultion show that it success to connect to exchange but it can't open the mail folders https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution-exchange/+bug/606822 *** Y en el BTS de Debian, Evolution tiene unos cuantos (360) informes abiertos: http://packages.qa.debian.org/e/evolution.html Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.08.15.15.32...@gmail.com
Re: Consulta sobre samba
El Sábado 14 Agosto 2010 10:22:01 Cristian Mitchell escribió: El día 13 de agosto de 2010 17:02, Abejo the.ab...@yahoo.com.ar escribió: Hola gente, el tema es el siguiente, tengo un server donde tengo instalado samba, y estoy usando un sistema (bejerman) que guarda las bases de dato (access) en una carpeta compartida sobre este servidor. El problema es que desde hace un par de días al cerrar el sistema quedan las bases abiertas y tengo que dar de baja y volver a levantar el samba para poder seguir trabajando, según el soporte del sistema es culpa del servidor, e insisten que lo migre a MS, lo que me llama la atención que esto solo lo hace en el sistema, los documentos los cierran y abren sin ningún problema. Alguien tiene alguna idea a que se puede deber esto? que significa que lo hace desde un par de dias? antes lo hacia? que paso desde el antes y el despues? los servicios tecnicos improvisados de todos estos siempre le echa la culpa a otro! lo mismo me paso con buenos aires software hace 20 dias despues de una actualizacion de ellos empeso a andar lento, y le echan la culpa a la red al server al linux, pero lo unico que cambio hera el el sistema de ellos, entonces? hasta que tuvieropn que aceptarlo OJO!!! dudo que sea el samba El sistema suele sacar actualizaciones periódicas, lo que no te se resisar si esto comenzó después de una actualización o no, ya hay veces que lo hace una ves cada tanto, y otras lo hace 2 o 3 veces en el mismo día -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201008151543.11793.the.ab...@yahoo.com.ar
Re: Consulta sobre samba
El Sábado 14 Agosto 2010 13:17:15 Javier Argentina escribió: El 13/08/10, Abejo the.ab...@yahoo.com.ar escribió: Hola gente, el tema es el siguiente, tengo un server donde tengo instalado samba, y estoy usando un sistema (bejerman) que guarda las bases de dato (access) en una carpeta compartida sobre este servidor. El problema es que desde hace un par de días al cerrar el sistema quedan las bases abiertas y ¿Qué sistema cerrás, el servidor samba o los clientes desde terminales MS con Access? Lo que cierran es el sistema, en las terminales (el sistema guarda las bases en formato access) tengo que dar de baja y volver a levantar el samba para poder seguir Eso, es porque para samba las conexiones siguen estando persistentes, hay algún tema de cierre de los accesos remotos que no está funcionando bien, ya sea porque windows no cierra la conexión como se debe, o tenés alguna pifia en la configuración del servidor. exacto, ese es el problema, segun el seporte del sistema es problema del servidor trabajando, según el soporte del sistema es culpa del servidor, e insisten que lo migre a MS, lo que me llama la atención que esto solo lo hace en el sistema, los documentos los cierran y abren sin ningún problema. Más a favor de lo que te dije. Fijate la opción deadtime de smb.conf pero la opción deadtime me cerraría la conexión con la terminal solo si la terminal no tiene ningún otro archivo abierto, o me liberaría el que archivo bloqueado? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201008151535.27155.the.ab...@yahoo.com.ar
OT. Salida de Tail -f /var/log/apache.log
Hola Lista. Hoy estaba viendo la salida de tail -f /var/log/apache/access.log y vi esto: 164.77.174.105 - - [14/Aug/2010:15:25:03 -0300] \xf6\xbel\xc6\xc4Ac\xf4\xe2\x8d\x1b\x8cB\x1b\x15\x1a[\xe2\xcc\x0e\xae\x9d\xed\xff,\xe7P-/\xf8\x13!\xa3_(\xc1\xd2|#C\xfc\xecci\xe3%\xad0G3\xc1\xa8\xb4 \x81\xce\xc3\xf0\\xc8\xdc\xf9TT\xc8\xde\xc1r$U\xebBYfS2\xe4\xe1\x8fAD\vr\xf8\xf7Ep\xa9\x13s\xe2\xae\xb2M\xa4 400 343 - - Alguien sabe que puede significar? Muchas Gracias. Saludos. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c685d64.6040...@gmail.com
Re: OT. Salida de Tail -f /var/log/apache.log
El Sun, 15 Aug 2010 18:34:28 -0300 ciracusa cirac...@gmail.com escribió: Hoy estaba viendo la salida de tail -f /var/log/apache/access.log y vi esto: 164.77.174.105 - - [14/Aug/2010:15:25:03 -0300] \xf6\xbel\xc6\xc4Ac\xf4\xe2\x8d\x1b\x8cB\x1b\x15\x1a[\xe2\xcc\x0e\xae\x9d\xed\xff,\xe7P-/\xf8\x13!\xa3_(\xc1\xd2|#C\xfc\xecci\xe3%\xad0G3\xc1\xa8\xb4 \x81\xce\xc3\xf0\\xc8\xdc\xf9TT\xc8\xde\xc1r$U\xebBYfS2\xe4\xe1\x8fAD\vr\xf8\xf7Ep\xa9\x13s\xe2\xae\xb2M\xa4 400 343 - - Alguien sabe que puede significar? Suena a un ataque, ¿realizado con caracteres de [1]escape o unicode?. Tiene pinta de ser una de estos. Que vaya dirigido a tu persona, o sea indiscriminado es algo que no puedo adivinar. Saludos --- Angel [1]http://capec.mitre.org/data/definitions/78.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100816001857.16d29...@x32
Re: Consulta sobre samba
El 15/08/10 15:35, Abejo escribió: pero la opción deadtime me cerraría la conexión con la terminal solo si la terminal no tiene ningún otro archivo abierto, o me liberaría el que archivo bloqueado? man smb.conf deadtime (G) The value of the parameter (a decimal integer) represents the number of minutes of inactivity before a connection is considered dead, and it is disconnected. The deadtime only takes effect if the number of open files is zero. This is useful to stop a server's resources being exhausted by a large number of inactive connections. Most clients have an auto-reconnect feature when a connection is broken so in most cases this parameter should be transparent to users. Using this parameter with a timeout of a few minutes is recommended for most systems. A deadtime of zero indicates that no auto-disconnection should be performed. Default: /deadtime/ = 0 Example: /deadtime/ = 15
Estruturação de rede.
Bom dia deb...@s! Desculpem se talvez minha duvida não seja pertinente a esta lista. Seguinte, atualmente tenho em minha casa um lik adsl que estou dividindo alguns vizinho (o ajuda a pagar conta hehe), ai aproveitei para aprender também visto que tenho um rede, nada melhor para usar esta para fins também de estudo. Atualmente estar assim: Modem ADSL roteado--- porta 1 do Roteador WIFI pacific, sai da porta 2-- porta 1 switch, sai da porta 2-- AP Greatek que distribui por uma antena omini 12 dbi, as portas 3,4 e 5 estão distribuindo via cabo, a classe de ip estar C 192.168.1.* sendo distribuida pelo modem ADSL, não estar com controle de nada. Primeiro o pacific fazia o PPPOE, porem um dia deu a maior traveira e ai rotiei o modem, deixei o pacific como switch, o greatek pus a pouco, tentei por do ADSL para o switch e do switch para os outros mais não funcionou. Como pretendo deixar tudo: ADSL -- Servidor (que disca pppoE, DHCP, LAMP, Squid, Banda, Cache) -- switch -- antena, Pc's e pacific. Minha ideia é por 3 placas de redes no Servidor, eth0 pegar a conexão recebendo IP do ADSL, eth1 distribuir para antena, eth2 distribuir para o switch, tudo na faixa de ip classe A 10.0.0.*, MASC 255.0.0.0, deixando a faixa de 1 a 10 para servidor, antena ... e de 11 a 25 para os Pc's. Um amigo surgeril o BFW, porem quero fazer tudo com Debian. Enquanto não tenho a maquina para inplantar o servidor, pensi deixar assim: ADSL -- Pacific (que disca pppoE, DHCP) -- switch -- antena, Pc's e pacific. Faixa de ip classe A 10.0.0.*, MASC 255.0.0.0, deixando a faixa de 1 a 10 para servidor, antena ... e de 11 a 25 para os Pc's. Bom que puder opnar com criticas surgetões, esperiencias ... Agradeço. Abraço! -- Marcos Egito GNU/Linux User #491326 Estudante de Sistema da informação 1º Período. Funcionário CRC-Marista (Centro de Re-condicionamento de computadores) Fotos www.flickr.com/photos/maregito 081-8762 - 4378 celular OI, 081-3456 - 9739 casa mareg...@gmail.com Skype maregito, MSN mareg...@oi.com.br, Gtalk mareg...@gmail.com Uma vida não basta apenas ser vivida: também precisa ser sonhada. (Mario Quintana)
crash: nexuiz 2.5.2 e debian squeeze
Olá, Estou tentando rodar o nexuiz-2.5.2 dos repositórios, no meu note [0] sobre Debian Squeeze e consistentemente entra em APARENTE rápido loop de reiniciar X após alguns minutos de tal forma que é mais fácil desligar a máquina. Não sei se é o jogo ou o driver de vídeo Intel. Como colher dados suficientes para enviar um bom bug report? Obrigado. André Felipe [0] http://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Positivo/Aureum4200
[OFF-TOPIC] DNS em uma localidade e Mail Server em outra
Amigos, esta é mais uma dúvida técnica do que sobre debian exatamente, mas, se puderem me ajudar eu agradeço. Tenho uma empresa que é responsável pelo meu domínio, onde fica o DNS que resolve o dominio da minha empresa e onde tem a página. Eu estava querendo configurar um servidor postfix para criar contas de e-mail para a empresa, porém, não sei se é possivel fazer isso apenas mudando MX no DNS da empresa contratada ou algo parecido no Bind ou se preciso cancelar este contrato e pegar o DNS e Web Server para ai sim ter tudo no mesmo ambiente e assim fazer funcionar o mail server. Será quem alguém que tenha experiência em um cenário parecido pode me dizer como proceder? agradeço desde já att Harlei
Configurar apache para rodar CGI
Olá galera. Estou tendo dificuldades em configurar meu servidor Apache para rodar script CGI. Li alguns tutoriais, inclusive na própria documentação do Apache, mas tô fazendo algo errado que não funciona. Quando eu ponho no meu mozilla o endereço: http://192.168.1.252/cgi-bin/script.cgi É aparece o erro: Internal Server Error The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request. No httpd.conf eu inclusive cheguei a criar uma diretriz: Directory /var/www/htdocs/cgi-bin AddHandler cgi-script .cgi .sh .pl Options +ExecCGI Order allow,deny Allow from all /Directory Mas, enfim, não funcionou! Alguém sabe o que poderia estar errado? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c68601e.6080...@gmail.com
túnel HTTPS
Olá pessoal, estou precisando criar um túnel aonde eu possa jogar todo meu tráfego para um servidor da minha preferência via https. Ou seja, quero criar um túnel HTTPS. Alguém saberia indicar uma boa ferramenta para isso? Existem as opções de criar túnel ICMP ou SSH, porém particularmente para este caso estariam fora de questão... Abraços
Re: Configurar apache para rodar CGI
Olá, Cara verifique se existe algum arquivo .htaccess no diretório em questão e a permissão dos arquivos tb ( coloque 644 ) []'s Em 15 de agosto de 2010 18:46, Keppler jurgenkepp...@gmail.com escreveu: Olá galera. Estou tendo dificuldades em configurar meu servidor Apache para rodar script CGI. Li alguns tutoriais, inclusive na própria documentação do Apache, mas tô fazendo algo errado que não funciona. Quando eu ponho no meu mozilla o endereço: http://192.168.1.252/cgi-bin/script.cgi É aparece o erro: Internal Server Error The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request. No httpd.conf eu inclusive cheguei a criar uma diretriz: Directory /var/www/htdocs/cgi-bin AddHandler cgi-script .cgi .sh .pl Options +ExecCGI Order allow,deny Allow from all /Directory Mas, enfim, não funcionou! Alguém sabe o que poderia estar errado? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c68601e.6080...@gmail.com
Re: [OFF-TOPIC] DNS em uma localidade e Mail Server em outra
On Sun, 15 Aug 2010, Harlei Liguori Marcelino wrote: puderem me ajudar eu agradeço. Tenho uma empresa que é responsável pelo meu domínio, onde fica o DNS que resolve o dominio da minha empresa e onde tem a página. Eu estava querendo configurar um servidor postfix para criar contas de e-mail para a empresa, porém, não sei se é possivel fazer isso apenas mudando MX no DNS da empresa contratada ou algo parecido no Bind ou se preciso cancelar este contrato e pegar o DNS e Web Server para ai sim ter tudo no mesmo ambiente e assim fazer funcionar o mail server. Será quem alguém que tenha experiência em um cenário parecido pode me dizer como proceder? Por favor, compre o livro do postfix e dê uma lida, ele explica a base de funcionamento dos MTAs. De preferência, faça o tutorial sobre DNS do NIC.br ou algum outro (ou melhor ainda, compre o livro DNS e BIND da O'Reilly e leia inteiro), você precisa entender _exatamente_ como o DNS funciona se quiser fazer um bom trabalho. Para responder sua resposta: você só precisa utilizar os registros MX da forma correta. O local onde está hospedado o DNS não importa, desde que permita alterar os registros MX. A pergunta nem mesmo faz sentido, por isso recomendo veementemente que estude mais um pouco antes de tentar por MTA no ar para alguma empresa. -- One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond where the shadows lie. -- The Silicon Valley Tarot Henrique Holschuh -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100816011326.ga13...@khazad-dum.debian.net
Debian Squeeze com php 5.2
Bom dia, É possível instalar o Debian squeeze com php 5.2.6 do lenny? Preciso usar o Zend optimizer e ele somente funciona com o php 5.2. Obrigado -- Alexandre Pereira Bühler Técnico Eletroeletrônica - Senai - MG Linux User: 397.546 Colunista: www.delphisophp.com Owner: http://br.groups.yahoo.com/group/freepascal/ Liberdade é essencial. Use GNU/Linux. Legalize os softwares de sua empresa Simão Bühler Ltda (Infobrindes) Instalação, manutenção e venda de servidores GNU/Linux. http://www.simaoebuhler.com.br Hardware acesse, veja e tenha produtos com qualidade, garantia e nota fiscal. http://www.simaoebuhler.com.br/loja alexan...@simaoebuhler.com.br Telefone: (41) 3538-5428 Infobrindes (Simão Bühler Ltda) Brindes e material promocional. http://www.infobrindes.com.br alexan...@infobrindes.com.br Telefone: (41) 3532-5428 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c68b17a.5080...@simaoebuhler.com.br
Why is troubleshooting Linux so hard?
Good morning, I'm going to list some of the frustrations I've been having with troubleshooting Linux's quirks, crashes and problems in hopes that someone may be able to help me (and the community) become better bug reporters and troubleshooters. I'll make comparisons to Windows only because I am used to fixing the same problems in Windows a certain way - maybe there are analogies in Linux or maybe I'm approaching these problems the wrong way. I'm not trying to troll or flame-bait. I'm using Debian Squeeze, by the way. 1) Is there a way to apply debugging symbols retroactively to a dump? A few times I've had Linux crash on me and spit out a debugging dump. I do my best to install debugging symbols for all 1400 packages I have on my system (when I can find them) but this requires a huge amount of hard disk space and, invariably, the odd dump is missing symbols. Recreating the crash isn't always possible. Is there (or could someone invent) a way to save a dump without the symbols, download the symbol tables and then regenerate the dump with the symbols so it's useful to developers? 2) I find that the logs contain lots of facts but not a whole lot of useful information (if any) when something goes wrong. I've had KDE go black-screen on me, for example, and force a hard reboot but there's no mention whatsoever (that I can find) in xorg.log, kdm.log, messages, syslog or dmesg. Windows seems to be fairly good at making its last breath a stop error before it dies which means when I get back into the system (or when I'm looking at a client's computer days after) I can find that stop error, look it up and figure out what went wrong. Are Linux's logs designed for troubleshooting or only for monitoring? Are proper troubleshooting logs kept somewhere else or in a special file? Is there a guide on how to read Linux's logs so I can make sense out of them like I can Windows' logs? 3) Linux needs better troubleshooting and recovery systems. The answer I usually get when I get an unexplained error is to run the program inside a dbg or with valgrind. I'm not convinced that this is a practical way to troubleshoot serious problems (like kernel panics) and it requires a certain amount of foresight that a problem will occur. According to this logic, the only way that someone can produce useful reports and feedback (or even get a clue as to what happened) on the day-to-day crashes and bugs is to start Linux and all of its sub process inside valgrind and/or gdb. This is obviously not an intended use of these programs. This is what would make it easier (at least for me) to troubleshoot Linux problems. If these features exist, please let me know so I can start using them (they should probably be documented in the man pages too). 1) Logs need to have useful information. When I look at a client's Windows box days after they report something going wrong, the logs tell me at what time the problem happened, which process failed and what error it threw just before it blew. I can look those error codes up and (usually) fix the problem within an hour. When something dies on Linux, the log entry (assuming it even makes one) only tells me how many seconds into that particular boot the problem occurred. I've never been able to go back a few days later and find the log entries related to a particular crash - maybe because they've been purged. I know that the Linux tradition is to identify processes only by ID but surely there must be a way that it can print a file or package name or anything more useful than memory addresses and registers so at least I know where to start pointing fingers. Several people have told me that it's pointless trying to debug a dump in the logs. What's the point of dumping it in the first place if nobody can read it? 2) I wish error logs had simple codes or messages (which have documentation) like Windows Stop errors so I can look them up and figure out why something died. Often times I try to Google the whole error message and either get directed to source code or totally irrelevant postings (since it seems that many messages are reused for all kinds of problems). For example, 'segfault' gets thrown so much that it only tells you that the program crashed - something I already know. 3) Logs need better organisation. I'm looking at the most recent dump and each message is printed on its own line. The problem is that interspersed in those individual lines may be other entries from other events not related to the problem in question. When I look at a Windows log, each event is entirely contained in one entry. It doesn't make one entry for Stop, another entry for the Stop number, another 4 entries for the parameters and more entries for whatever other information usually is in them - whilst having other entries amid the list with what other things were doing at the time. I find Linux logs very frustrating to read for that
Re: Why is troubleshooting Linux so hard?
My suggestion, can't we create troubleshooting database?? On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 11:30 AM, Borden Rhodes j...@bordenrhodes.comwrote: Good morning, I'm going to list some of the frustrations I've been having with troubleshooting Linux's quirks, crashes and problems in hopes that someone may be able to help me (and the community) become better bug reporters and troubleshooters. I'll make comparisons to Windows only because I am used to fixing the same problems in Windows a certain way - maybe there are analogies in Linux or maybe I'm approaching these problems the wrong way. I'm not trying to troll or flame-bait. I'm using Debian Squeeze, by the way. 1) Is there a way to apply debugging symbols retroactively to a dump? A few times I've had Linux crash on me and spit out a debugging dump. I do my best to install debugging symbols for all 1400 packages I have on my system (when I can find them) but this requires a huge amount of hard disk space and, invariably, the odd dump is missing symbols. Recreating the crash isn't always possible. Is there (or could someone invent) a way to save a dump without the symbols, download the symbol tables and then regenerate the dump with the symbols so it's useful to developers? 2) I find that the logs contain lots of facts but not a whole lot of useful information (if any) when something goes wrong. I've had KDE go black-screen on me, for example, and force a hard reboot but there's no mention whatsoever (that I can find) in xorg.log, kdm.log, messages, syslog or dmesg. Windows seems to be fairly good at making its last breath a stop error before it dies which means when I get back into the system (or when I'm looking at a client's computer days after) I can find that stop error, look it up and figure out what went wrong. Are Linux's logs designed for troubleshooting or only for monitoring? Are proper troubleshooting logs kept somewhere else or in a special file? Is there a guide on how to read Linux's logs so I can make sense out of them like I can Windows' logs? 3) Linux needs better troubleshooting and recovery systems. The answer I usually get when I get an unexplained error is to run the program inside a dbg or with valgrind. I'm not convinced that this is a practical way to troubleshoot serious problems (like kernel panics) and it requires a certain amount of foresight that a problem will occur. According to this logic, the only way that someone can produce useful reports and feedback (or even get a clue as to what happened) on the day-to-day crashes and bugs is to start Linux and all of its sub process inside valgrind and/or gdb. This is obviously not an intended use of these programs. This is what would make it easier (at least for me) to troubleshoot Linux problems. If these features exist, please let me know so I can start using them (they should probably be documented in the man pages too). 1) Logs need to have useful information. When I look at a client's Windows box days after they report something going wrong, the logs tell me at what time the problem happened, which process failed and what error it threw just before it blew. I can look those error codes up and (usually) fix the problem within an hour. When something dies on Linux, the log entry (assuming it even makes one) only tells me how many seconds into that particular boot the problem occurred. I've never been able to go back a few days later and find the log entries related to a particular crash - maybe because they've been purged. I know that the Linux tradition is to identify processes only by ID but surely there must be a way that it can print a file or package name or anything more useful than memory addresses and registers so at least I know where to start pointing fingers. Several people have told me that it's pointless trying to debug a dump in the logs. What's the point of dumping it in the first place if nobody can read it? 2) I wish error logs had simple codes or messages (which have documentation) like Windows Stop errors so I can look them up and figure out why something died. Often times I try to Google the whole error message and either get directed to source code or totally irrelevant postings (since it seems that many messages are reused for all kinds of problems). For example, 'segfault' gets thrown so much that it only tells you that the program crashed - something I already know. 3) Logs need better organisation. I'm looking at the most recent dump and each message is printed on its own line. The problem is that interspersed in those individual lines may be other entries from other events not related to the problem in question. When I look at a Windows log, each event is entirely contained in one entry. It doesn't make one entry for Stop, another entry for the Stop number, another 4 entries for the parameters and more entries for whatever other
Re: Why is troubleshooting Linux so hard?
On Sun, 2010-08-15 at 02:00 -0400, Borden Rhodes wrote: Good morning, I'm going to list some of the frustrations I've been having with troubleshooting Linux's quirks, crashes and problems in hopes that someone may be able to help me (and the community) become better bug reporters and troubleshooters.snip Very interesting and helpful post. Thank you. I've snipped most of it out for the sake of those for whom long emails are a problem or expensive. As someone without deep troubleshooting experience, I'll be curious to see the responses. The only thing I can help with is the old log information. Linux usually rotates the logs. As I'd imagine you've seen, you can find compressed versions of the logs, e.g., messages.1, message.2.gz - John -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1281853909.24518.43.ca...@denise.theartistscloset.com
Re: Corrupted FS every 50 checks
T o n g wrote: Bob Proulx wrote: Note that if it is set to no on a remote server that you do not have console access to then it is possible to get into a state where the machine will not reboot on its own because it will be waiting for console access to get past the fsck questions. So remote servers mostly set FSCKFIX to yes? Most of the time there aren't any problems. This is something that only becomes visible when there is a problem that triggers the interactive fsck. So actually I think that most of the machines have the default which is no. And since problems are rare it isn't a big deal. But I guarentee you that the admin will change it after the second time that it burns them! :-) I was burned once by this and so now I always change it. I find it hard to believe that it isn't the default. But it is easily locally customized. Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: SMART configuration
T o n g wrote: I noticed that SMART configuration has changed dramatically since last time I looked into it. Anyone care to explain how to configure SMART for a simple task as regular selftests on sda please? Edit /etc/smartd.conf, read the DEVICESCAN comment and then comment out the first DEVICESCAN line. # Most users should comment out DEVICESCAN and explicitly # list the devices that they wish to monitor. #DEVICESCAN -d removable -n standby ... Then scroll down to the first hda line, copy it, uncomment it, change it from hda to sda. The comments there explain: # Monitor all attributes, enable automatic online data collection, # automatic Attribute autosave, and start a short self-test every # day between 2-3am, and a long self test Saturdays between 3-4am. /dev/sda -a -d sat -o on -S on -s (S/../.././02|L/../../6/03) (Or use whatever schedule seems reasonable to you. This one seems pretty good to me.) Edit /etc/default/smartmontools and set: start_smartd=yes Then restart the daemon. # /etc/init.d/smartmontools restart Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
wicd refuses to start
Dear all After some recent updates, I assume, wicd strangely refuses to start. li...@debian-liv:~$ wicd-gtk Has notifications support True Loading... Connecting to daemon... Connected. Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/share/wicd/gtk/wicd-client.py, line 1033, in module main(sys.argv) File /usr/share/wicd/gtk/wicd-client.py, line 91, in wrapper return func(*args, **kwargs) File /usr/share/wicd/gtk/wicd-client.py, line 1005, in main tray_icon = TrayIcon(animate, displaytray=display_app) File /usr/share/wicd/gtk/wicd-client.py, line 139, in __init__ self.icon_info = self.TrayConnectionInfo(self, self.tr, animate) File /usr/share/wicd/gtk/wicd-client.py, line 198, in __init__ self.update_tray_icon() File /usr/share/wicd/gtk/wicd-client.py, line 91, in wrapper return func(*args, **kwargs) File /usr/share/wicd/gtk/wicd-client.py, line 349, in update_tray_icon self.set_wireless_state(info) File /usr/share/wicd/gtk/wicd-client.py, line 91, in wrapper return func(*args, **kwargs) File /usr/share/wicd/gtk/wicd-client.py, line 289, in set_wireless_state 'network-wireless') File /usr/share/wicd/gtk/wicd-client.py, line 233, in _show_notification self._last_bubble.show() glib.GError: Unable to connect to server However, it starts just fine with li...@debian-liv:~$ wicd-gtk --no-tray Has notifications support True Loading... Connecting to daemon... Connected. /usr/share/wicd/gtk/gui.py:152: GtkWarning: gtk_toolbar_set_icon_size: assertion `icon_size != GTK_ICON_SIZE_INVALID' failed self.wTree = gtk.glade.XML(gladefile) or from root debian-liv:/home/liviu# wicd-client Has notifications support True Loading... Connecting to daemon... Connected. displaytray True Done loading. I'm using wicd 1.7.0 on an outdated Debian squeeze. Any ideas on what's going wrong? Regards Liviu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100815075229.54f58...@debian-liv
Re: building 2.6.35
On Jo, 12 aug 10, 11:10:16, Arthur Machlas wrote: Isn't there a risk in granting user access to src, adm, and such if ever your user account is compromised? My uninformed opinion is that it's a question of relative risk; the 'risk' involved in building kernels as root, versus the risk involved in giving access to these dirs and tools should your account become compromised. If that user account is used to gain root privileges then it doesn't really matter, it's not very difficult to trick the user to give out the root password (something like a fake 'su' or 'sudo' prompt). Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Why is troubleshooting Linux so hard?
On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 02:00:52AM -0400, Borden Rhodes wrote: Good morning, I'm going to list some of the frustrations I've been having with troubleshooting Linux's quirks, crashes and problems in hopes that someone may be able to help me (and the community) become better bug reporters and troubleshooters. I'll make comparisons to Windows only because I am used to fixing the same problems in Windows a certain way - maybe there are analogies in Linux or maybe I'm approaching these problems the wrong way. I'm not trying to troll or flame-bait. I'm using Debian Squeeze, by the way. ..snip.. That's been my main complaint about Linux ever since I started using it 10 year or more ago (Redhat 6.0). -- Bob Holtzman Key ID: 8D549279 If you think you're getting free lunch, check the price of the beer signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Udev rule for external hard-drive
On Ma, 10 aug 10, 09:48:35, Brian Troutwine wrote: I'd like to give the volume a static name so that I can reliably point autofs at it. While I realize that I could simply use the entries in /dev/disk, I find it difficult to maintain the mental mapping of names to device, especially at a glance. Maybe /dev/disk/by-label/ is good enough. Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Huawei E220 on NetworkManager
On Mi, 11 aug 10, 10:28:28, Joao Ferreira gmail wrote: Hello, has anyone out there been able to get NetworkManager to bring up a 3G connection on a Huawei E220 (portuguese operator Vodafone). I have never been able to achieve this. Now I migrated from Lenny to Squeeze (fresh install) and still no luck. I tried a Globetroter 3G modem (portuguese operator TMN) and it works just fine on Network Manager... anyone had any luck with Huawei E220 on Network Manager ? I haven't tried Network Manager (I prefer wicd), but it works fine with the software from https://forge.betavine.net/frs/?group_id=12 Unfortunately the newer version requires NM :( but might be more suitable for you. Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Why is /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/sun-java6-6-12/jdk1.6.0_12 not recognized in update-alternatives?
Camaleón wrote: On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 21:00:10 +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote: (...) (...) The above path... not sure if it's right. Try by manually forcing the full path to java bin: *** ./eclipse -debug -vm /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/sun-java6-6-12/jdk1.6.0_12/jre/bin/java *** Thanks for the trick. It first gives a box `No exit data available', then == Start VM: /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/sun-java6-6-12/jdk1.6.0_12/jre/bin/java -Dosgi.requiredJavaVersion=1.5 -XX:MaxPermSize=256m -Xms40m -Xmx384m -jar /home/merciadriluca/eclipse/plugins/org.eclipse.equinox.launcher_1.1.0.v20100507.jar -os linux -ws gtk -arch x86 -showsplash -launcher /home/merciadriluca/eclipse/eclipse -name Eclipse --launcher.library /home/merciadriluca/eclipse/plugins/org.eclipse.equinox.launcher.gtk.linux.x86_1.1.0.v20100503/eclipse_1307.so -startup /home/merciadriluca/eclipse/plugins/org.eclipse.equinox.launcher_1.1.0.v20100507.jar -exitdata 158007 -product org.eclipse.epp.package.java.product -debug -vm /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/sun-java6-6-12/jdk1.6.0_12/jre/bin/java -vmargs -Dosgi.requiredJavaVersion=1.5 -XX:MaxPermSize=256m -Xms40m -Xmx384m -jar /home/merciadriluca/eclipse/plugins/org.eclipse.equinox.launcher_1.1.0.v20100507.jar Error occurred during initialization of VM java/lang/NoClassDefFoundError: java/lang/Object == then == JVM terminated. Exit code=1 /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/sun-java6-6-12/jdk1.6.0_12/jre/bin/java -Dosgi.requiredJavaVersion=1.5 -XX:MaxPermSize=256m -Xms40m -Xmx384m -jar /home/merciadriluca/eclipse/plugins/org.eclipse.equinox.launcher_1.1.0.v20100507.jar -os linux -ws gtk -arch x86 -showsplash -launcher /home/merciadriluca/eclipse/eclipse -name Eclipse --launcher.library /home/merciadriluca/eclipse/plugins/org.eclipse.equinox.launcher.gtk.linux.x86_1.1.0.v20100503/eclipse_1307.so -startup /home/merciadriluca/eclipse/plugins/org.eclipse.equinox.launcher_1.1.0.v20100507.jar -exitdata 158007 -product org.eclipse.epp.package.java.product -debug -vm /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/sun-java6-6-12/jdk1.6.0_12/jre/bin/java -vmargs -Dosgi.requiredJavaVersion=1.5 -XX:MaxPermSize=256m -Xms40m -Xmx384m -jar /home/merciadriluca/eclipse/plugins/org.eclipse.equinox.launcher_1.1.0.v20100507.jar == (quite the same as before). Also, run which java and put here the output == $ which java /usr/local/bin/java merciadril...@merciadriluca-station:/usr/local/bin$ ls -al | grep java lrwxrwxrwx 1 root staff 59 2010-08-14 15:58 java - /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/sun-java6-6-12/jdk1.6.0_12/bin/java == I can't understand why it does not work. -- Merciadri Luca See http://www.student.montefiore.ulg.ac.be/~merciadri/ I use PGP. If there is an incompatibility problem with your mail client, please contact me. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Corrupted FS every 50 checks
Hanspeter Spalinger wrote: On 08/14/2010 09:01 PM, Merciadri Luca wrote: Hi, I have the fs' checking period set to 50 mounts for now some years. The problem is that I always get errors when e2fsck verifies the fs, and always on the same: /dev/sdc5. Well, this is where I have all my docs, my university stuff, and this is even more annoying. I could do backups, but I can't understand why this filesystem is problematic, because I don't use it often, at least these times. I always have errors about the AucTeX files. Well, auctex is simply an emacs extension for LaTeX, and I can't understand why some specific files always cause troubles. I don't always get the same errors. This time, it was mainly *things like error filesystem Inode has EXTENTS_FL flag set, but not too many.* ** *1) Why are they happening? My disk is not old. (/dev/sdc5 is on another disk than the /etc, etc.)* *2) Should I think about buying another hdd? I tried with the hdd life tools (I can't remember their names) which are bundled with Debian, but they don't show any failing thing (they have quite the same score as other hdds in my computer).* *** Thanks. * Hi, Do you actualy FIX those errors? Afaik the fsck at startup does not fix all errors (it plays safe). Try run fsck manualy (but make a backup first and read the man-page). Yes, I always fix them. If necessary, I fix them manually. I assume you use the other partitions more often, with no error, so i don't think your problem is hardware related. Huh? I can't understand that. Would you mean that when a partition is not used often, it is more error-prone (subject to errors)? Thanks. -- Merciadri Luca See http://www.student.montefiore.ulg.ac.be/~merciadri/ I use PGP. If there is an incompatibility problem with your mail client, please contact me. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Corrupted FS every 50 checks
Bob Proulx wrote: Hanspeter Spalinger wrote: Merciadri Luca wrote: problem is that I always get errors when e2fsck verifies the fs, and always on the same: /dev/sdc5. ... but I can't understand why this filesystem is problematic, because I don't use it often, at least these times. I always have errors about the Do you actualy FIX those errors? Afaik the fsck at startup does not fix all errors (it plays safe). Try run fsck manualy (but make a backup first and read the man-page). The control for this is in /etc/default/rcS with the FSCKFIX variable. If it is set to no then no fix happens. If it is set to yes then at boot time fsck is enabled to automatically fix what it can. In /etc/default/rcS file: FSCKFIX=yes Note that if it is set to no on a remote server that you do not have console access to then it is possible to get into a state where the machine will not reboot on its own because it will be waiting for console access to get past the fsck questions. These are documented in the rcS man page. $ man rcS FSCKFIX When the root and all other file systems are checked, fsck is invoked with the -a option which means autorepair. If there are major inconsistencies then the fsck process will bail out. The system will print a message asking the administrator to repair the file system manually and will present a root shell prompt (actually a sulogin prompt) on the console. Setting this option to yes causes the fsck commands to be run with the -y option instead of the -a option. This will tell fsck always to repair the file systems without asking for permission. I just modified /etc/default/rcS consequently. (`FSCKFIX' was set to `no'.) I assume you use the other partitions more often, with no error, so i don't think your problem is hardware related. A good diagnosis! But I would still look to be sure. :-) -- Merciadri Luca See http://www.student.montefiore.ulg.ac.be/~merciadri/ I use PGP. If there is an incompatibility problem with your mail client, please contact me. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Corrupted FS every 50 checks
Bob Proulx wrote: Does your disk support S.M.A.R.T.? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S.M.A.R.T. Try it and see if the disk drive reports any physical errors. $ sudo apt-get install smartmontools Here are some example uses: $ sudo smartctl -i /dev/sda SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability. SMART support is: Enabled If smart is available but disabled then you would need to enable it before making use of it. $ sudo smartctl -s on /dev/sda Then check the disk health status. $ sudo smartctl -H /dev/sda SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED That's what I was speaking about (smartmontools). Well, no problem, as I said: == # smartctl -H /dev/sdc5 smartctl version 5.38 [i686-pc-linux-gnu] Copyright (C) 2002-8 Bruce Allen Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/ === START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION === SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED == You can manually run a selftest like this: $ sudo smartctl -t short /dev/sda Then wait a couple of minutes for the test to complete and then observe the results. $ sudo smartctl -l selftest /dev/sda == # smartctl -l selftest /dev/sdc5 smartctl version 5.38 [i686-pc-linux-gnu] Copyright (C) 2002-8 Bruce Allen Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/ === START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION === SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1 Num Test_DescriptionStatus Remaining LifeTime(hours) LBA_of_first_error # 1 Short offline Completed without error 00% 13106 - == I recommend setting up automatic regular selftests by configuring smartmontools to run them regularly. I'll make it. Hopefully your disk is okay and not reporting physical errors. Yes. But I even ran a longer test months before, and it reported no error. Weird. -- Merciadri Luca See http://www.student.montefiore.ulg.ac.be/~merciadri/ I use PGP. If there is an incompatibility problem with your mail client, please contact me. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Corrupted FS every 50 checks
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: On Sat, 14 Aug 2010, Merciadri Luca wrote: always on the same: /dev/sdc5. Well, this is where I have all my docs, my university stuff, and this is even more annoying. I could do backups, I sure hope you *DID* extensive backups. Often. And stored some of them for permanent archival. :) but I can't understand why this filesystem is problematic, because I The typical answer is: because it is always getting corrupted again. But why again? always get the same errors. This time, it was mainly *things like error filesystem Inode has EXTENTS_FL flag set, but not too many.* This could mean you've managed to messing with an ext4 filesystem as if it were ext3. That won't corrupt file data, but can cause lots of other problems, and could cause data loss if you manage to confuse the kernel and the fsck tools enough. With some luck, it will end up in lost+found after the proper fsck. I sure hope that's what is happening. Well, I never modify things like the fs structure type, such as ext3 or ext4. Where could I have modified this? And why does it often happen to the same files? *2) Should I think about buying another hdd? I tried with the hdd life You should do a 24H memtest86 marathon on that box. I did it many months ago for another issue, and it went okay. And you should make sure you're *always* using that filesystem as ext4, since you apparently have a part of it using ext4 features. If it is a hardware problem, it is a strange one... it should be messing with the entire disk, not just a set of files in the same partition. It can't be bad magnetic media, as that causes sector read errors, not corruption. I hope this answer helps you. I won't be able to help you further on this. Maybe someone else can (or has a better idea of what the problem could be). Thanks. -- Merciadri Luca See http://www.student.montefiore.ulg.ac.be/~merciadri/ I use PGP. If there is an incompatibility problem with your mail client, please contact me. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Replacing an HDD: will it be labeled as before?
Hi, I would like to replace one of my HDDs by another one (a bigger one). Say that this is /dev/sdc. Then, its structure is defined like this: /dev/sdc1 (extended) /dev/sdc5 (ext3) where /dev/sdc5 is mounted as my home in /etc/fstab: == # cat /etc/fstab | grep merciadriluca /dev/sdc5 /home/merciadriluca ext3 errors=remount-ro 0 1 == Say now that I manage to copy my home to the new HDD (in ext3) which will replace the old one. If I physically put a new HDD at the place of the old one, will I encounter issues? Everything is done according to /dev/, so, no UUIDs, and there should be no problem. But will it be set as /dev/sdc5 automatically? (Sorry for my noobness.) Thanks, -- Merciadri Luca See http://www.student.montefiore.ulg.ac.be/~merciadri/ I use PGP. If there is an incompatibility problem with your mail client, please contact me. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: building 2.6.35
Hey. On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 1:29 AM, Stephen Powell zlinux...@wowway.com wrote: snippy I don't think that this is a bug. I think you're trying to mix and match two different ways of doing things. There are two basic ways of creating an out-of-kernel-source-tree module from source: (1) install the kernel headers and compile the out-of-kernel-source-tree module from source using the kernel headers, and (2) if you have the whole kernel source tree installed, compile using the kernel source. What you're doing is creating a kernel header package from the kernel source and then using method (1), when you should be using method (2). I spent the better part of the day today playing around with this. Perhaps the results of my experiment will prove instructive in some way. That makes scene I suppose, shouldn’t need headers if you have the whole source, I shall have to-do some research into how to build out of source tree modules against the main source. But at the same time, with the kernel headers installed, it should build against them, shouldn’t it? And without fixing that symlink I cant build the vbox modules via DKMS and the blobs installer fails :/ snippy The moral of the story is that you don't need (or shouldn't need) kernel header packages if you have the whole kernel source code installed. Note that I didn't use module-assistant or kernel headers. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- Cheers! Angus. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktimwah3fsrwsqygfn1aeppyw8k=sqfjlcszzd...@mail.gmail.com
Re: building 2.6.35
Hey, Sorry for the double, but forgot something! On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 1:29 AM, Stephen Powell zlinux...@wowway.com wrote: snippy $ make-kpkg --append-to-version -custom5-686 --revision 2.6.32-18 \ --initrd --rootcmd fakeroot kernel_image modules_image Quick question, is there an advantage to building a modules_image .deb rather than having it build into the kernel? snippy -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- Regards, Angus -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlkti=6puwpbzgwtocfg_nuibmkujgnklvgwwkvb...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Replacing an HDD: will it be labeled as before?
On Du, 15 aug 10, 10:55:22, Merciadri Luca wrote: Hi, I would like to replace one of my HDDs by another one (a bigger one). Say that this is /dev/sdc. Then, its structure is defined like this: /dev/sdc1 (extended) /dev/sdc5 (ext3) where /dev/sdc5 is mounted as my home in /etc/fstab: == # cat /etc/fstab | grep merciadriluca /dev/sdc5 /home/merciadriluca ext3 errors=remount-ro 0 1 == Say now that I manage to copy my home to the new HDD (in ext3) which will replace the old one. If I physically put a new HDD at the place of the old one, will I encounter issues? Everything is done according to /dev/, so, no UUIDs, and there should be no problem. But will it be set as /dev/sdc5 automatically? (Sorry for my noobness.) Only if you're lucky. I would use LABEL= in /etc/fstab and just use the same label on the new partition. Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: wicd refuses to start
On Du, 15 aug 10, 07:52:29, Liviu Andronic wrote: Dear all After some recent updates, I assume, wicd strangely refuses to start. li...@debian-liv:~$ wicd-gtk [snip errors] However, it starts just fine with li...@debian-liv:~$ wicd-gtk --no-tray Has notifications support True Loading... Connecting to daemon... Connected. /usr/share/wicd/gtk/gui.py:152: GtkWarning: gtk_toolbar_set_icon_size: assertion `icon_size != GTK_ICON_SIZE_INVALID' failed self.wTree = gtk.glade.XML(gladefile) or from root debian-liv:/home/liviu# wicd-client Has notifications support True Loading... Connecting to daemon... Connected. displaytray True Done loading. What Desktop Environment are you using? I'm using wicd 1.7.0 on an outdated Debian squeeze. I guess you mean updated ;) Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Why is troubleshooting Linux so hard?
In 201008150200.52677.j...@bordenrhodes.com, Borden Rhodes wrote: 1) Is there a way to apply debugging symbols retroactively to a dump? A few times I've had Linux crash on me and spit out a debugging dump. I do my best to install debugging symbols for all 1400 packages I have on my system (when I can find them) but this requires a huge amount of hard disk space and, invariably, the odd dump is missing symbols. Recreating the crash isn't always possible. Is there (or could someone invent) a way to save a dump without the symbols, download the symbol tables and then regenerate the dump with the symbols so it's useful to developers? Yes, it is, sometimes. Ubuntu has a process to do it automatically, that mostly gets it right. Modern versions of strip et. al. allow you to save the debugging information to a separate .so that just contains debugging information. gdb (et. al.) can then use the debugging-info only .so to decorate an existing backtrace. This is actually how a lot of distributions produce separate -dbg or -DEBUG packages. However, this debugging-info only files only match with the *same exact build* of the real .so. Taking a random backtrace, determining which build it came from and finding the appropriate -dbg packages is a bit difficult. Also, things like prelink, that modify existing .so files result in the debugging-info only .so not matching. This might also happen this some types of hardening that reduces the impact of heap/stack overflow/underflow attacks. Compounding this problem is the large number of programs that are being written with parts in scripting languages, or otherwise non-C/C++ languages where the path from a symbol in a ELF file to the problematic code is not as simple. In short, it can be done in some cases and there are programmers working on making backtraces from Joe Sixpack or Jane Boxwine more useful. It does seem to be like there may need to be more people working on this, but it is not very sexy work. Most programmers would rather spend their time improving the user experience when things are working; IME, that is where the user spends most of their time. 2) I find that the logs contain lots of facts but not a whole lot of useful information (if any) when something goes wrong. I've had KDE go black-screen on me, for example, and force a hard reboot but there's no mention whatsoever (that I can find) in xorg.log, kdm.log, messages, syslog or dmesg. Windows seems to be fairly good at making its last breath a stop error before it dies which means when I get back into the system (or when I'm looking at a client's computer days after) I can find that stop error, look it up and figure out what went wrong. Are Linux's logs designed for troubleshooting or only for monitoring? Are proper troubleshooting logs kept somewhere else or in a special file? Is there a guide on how to read Linux's logs so I can make sense out of them like I can Windows' logs? In the case of a kernel crash, the last breath of the system is unfortunately not writing to dmesg/syslog and sync()ing disks. Depending on the nature of the crash, there are some good reasons not to do this, though. (E.g. is the case of a PANIC(), the kernel developer is basically indicating that the kernel image has been compromised -- doing FS operations with a compromised kernel might cause [more] data loss.) I think that logs in general are... dropping in quality. They seem to be less focused around failed sanity checks, mis-configuration warnings, and I-was- here before I called exit() message. They seem to more filled with I-didn't- comment-this-out-before-our-release build debugging messages for random developers. This is not true of kernel logs for the most part; I find them informative, but it is rarely my kernel that causes me problems. I speak as someone that has been working as a developer in some capacity for 8 years. Take that for what you will. 3) Linux needs better troubleshooting and recovery systems. The answer I usually get when I get an unexplained error is to run the program inside a dbg or with valgrind. I'm not convinced that this is a practical way to troubleshoot serious problems (like kernel panics) and it requires a certain amount of foresight that a problem will occur. According to this logic, the only way that someone can produce useful reports and feedback (or even get a clue as to what happened) on the day-to-day crashes and bugs is to start Linux and all of its sub process inside valgrind and/or gdb. This is obviously not an intended use of these programs. If we don't know how to reproduce the problem, we can't fix it. If we do know how to reproduce the problem, the foresight needed to use gdb/valgrind is not too much more. They shouldn't be your first tools, but they are necessary. I've also had gdb/valgrind mask errors, which is truly unfortunate. Still, if you know a way to make it crash every time EXCEPT when in gdb/valgrind,
Re: Why is /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/sun-java6-6-12/jdk1.6.0_12 not recognized in update-alternatives?
On Sun, 15 Aug 2010 10:13:27 +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote: Camaleón wrote: (...) Try by manually forcing the full path to java bin: *** ./eclipse -debug -vm /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/sun-java6-6-12/jdk1.6.0_12/jre/bin/java *** Thanks for the trick. It first gives a box `No exit data available', then == Start VM: /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/sun-java6-6-12/jdk1.6.0_12/jre/bin/java At least that path looks more normal. (...) -jar /home/merciadriluca/eclipse/plugins/org.eclipse.equinox.launcher_1.1.0.v20100507.jar Error occurred during initialization of VM java/lang/NoClassDefFoundError: java/lang/Object It seems failing to load that .jar (is that equinox a plugin you can omit just for testing?) :-? (...) (quite the same as before). Yes, it gets stuck at that point. Also, run which java and put here the output == $ which java /usr/local/bin/java s...@stt008:~$ which java /usr/bin/java merciadril...@merciadriluca-station:/usr/local/bin$ ls -al | grep java lrwxrwxrwx 1 root staff 59 2010-08-14 15:58 java - /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/sun-java6-6-12/jdk1.6.0_12/bin/java s...@stt008:~$ ls -l /usr/bin/java lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 22 nov 14 2009 /usr/bin/java - /etc/alternatives/java I can't understand why it does not work. Me neither... maybe it's just an Eclipse issue. Can you launch any other java application and see if that works? P.S. Also, consider unistalling Sun's java package (the one downloaded from Oracle site) and getting the Sun's java package from Debian non-free repo :-) Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.08.15.11.35...@gmail.com
Re: Replacing an HDD: will it be labeled as before?
On Sun, 15 Aug 2010 10:55:22 +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote: I would like to replace one of my HDDs by another one (a bigger one). Say that this is /dev/sdc. Then, its structure is defined like this: /dev/sdc1 (extended) /dev/sdc5 (ext3) where /dev/sdc5 is mounted as my home in /etc/fstab: == # cat /etc/fstab | grep merciadriluca /dev/sdc5 /home/merciadriluca ext3 errors=remount-ro 0 1 == Say now that I manage to copy my home to the new HDD (in ext3) which will replace the old one. If I physically put a new HDD at the place of the old one, will I encounter issues? Most probably, yes. There is a high chance the system detects the new device as /dev/sdd. Reusing existing device names is not what I would expect as it could overlap the current setup :-/ Everything is done according to /dev/, so, no UUIDs, and there should be no problem. But will it be set as /dev/sdc5 automatically? (Sorry for my noobness.) Should you face problems, just edit the /etc/fstab accordingly and you're done. For static mount points, I would go for /dev/disk/by-id or /dev/disk/by-uuid, though. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.08.15.12.29...@gmail.com
Re: building 2.6.35
On Sun, 15 Aug 2010 05:27:12 -0400 (EDT), Angus Hedger wrote: On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 1:29 AM, Stephen Powell wrote: ... $ make-kpkg --append-to-version -custom5-686 --revision 2.6.32-18 \ --initrd --rootcmd fakeroot kernel_image modules_image ... Quick question, is there an advantage to building a modules_image .deb rather than having it build into the kernel? If you copy your module directly into the source tree, then you need to download a new kernel source tree and unpack it due to kernel maintenance, you lose your modifications. By keeping the out-of-kernel- source-tree modules in a separate directory, /usr/src/modules/..., you don't lose your modifications. You download and unpack the new kernel source, rebuild both packages, and install both packages. Simple. P.S. Angus: sorry for the inadvertent private e-mail earlier. I accidentally clicked on the wrong button. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1095580591.103338.1281876010970.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
Re: wicd refuses to start
On Sun, 15 Aug 2010 07:52:29 +0100, Liviu Andronic wrote: Dear all After some recent updates, I assume, wicd strangely refuses to start. li...@debian-liv:~$ wicd-gtk (...) File /usr/share/wicd/gtk/wicd-client.py, line 233, in _show_notification self._last_bubble.show() glib.GError: Unable to connect to server I think you are facing this bug report: *** client throws exception with libnotify 0.5.0 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=588205 *** Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.08.15.12.42...@gmail.com
Re: Replacing an HDD: will it be labeled as before?
Camaleón wrote: On Sun, 15 Aug 2010 10:55:22 +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote: I would like to replace one of my HDDs by another one (a bigger one). Say that this is /dev/sdc. Then, its structure is defined like this: /dev/sdc1 (extended) /dev/sdc5 (ext3) where /dev/sdc5 is mounted as my home in /etc/fstab: == # cat /etc/fstab | grep merciadriluca /dev/sdc5 /home/merciadriluca ext3 errors=remount-ro 0 1 == Say now that I manage to copy my home to the new HDD (in ext3) which will replace the old one. If I physically put a new HDD at the place of the old one, will I encounter issues? Most probably, yes. There is a high chance the system detects the new device as /dev/sdd. Reusing existing device names is not what I would expect as it could overlap the current setup :-/ Okay. So, there would be no /dev/sdc, but a /dev/sdd? Everything is done according to /dev/, so, no UUIDs, and there should be no problem. But will it be set as /dev/sdc5 automatically? (Sorry for my noobness.) Should you face problems, just edit the /etc/fstab accordingly and you're done. For static mount points, I would go for /dev/disk/by-id or /dev/disk/by-uuid, though. Thanks. -- Merciadri Luca See http://www.student.montefiore.ulg.ac.be/~merciadri/ I use PGP. If there is an incompatibility problem with your mail client, please contact me. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Why is /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/sun-java6-6-12/jdk1.6.0_12 not recognized in update-alternatives?
Camaleón wrote: On Sun, 15 Aug 2010 10:13:27 +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote: Camaleón wrote: (...) Try by manually forcing the full path to java bin: *** ./eclipse -debug -vm /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/sun-java6-6-12/jdk1.6.0_12/jre/bin/java *** Thanks for the trick. It first gives a box `No exit data available', then == Start VM: /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/sun-java6-6-12/jdk1.6.0_12/jre/bin/java At least that path looks more normal. (...) -jar /home/merciadriluca/eclipse/plugins/org.eclipse.equinox.launcher_1.1.0.v20100507.jar Error occurred during initialization of VM java/lang/NoClassDefFoundError: java/lang/Object It seems failing to load that .jar (is that equinox a plugin you can omit just for testing?) :-? I installed eclipse without any additional plugins. It looks like Equinox (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equinox_(OSGi)) is mandatory. (...) (quite the same as before). Yes, it gets stuck at that point. Yes. Also, run which java and put here the output == $ which java /usr/local/bin/java s...@stt008:~$ which java /usr/bin/java merciadril...@merciadriluca-station:/usr/local/bin$ ls -al | grep java lrwxrwxrwx 1 root staff 59 2010-08-14 15:58 java - /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/sun-java6-6-12/jdk1.6.0_12/bin/java s...@stt008:~$ ls -l /usr/bin/java lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 22 nov 14 2009 /usr/bin/java - /etc/alternatives/java I can't understand why it does not work. Me neither... maybe it's just an Eclipse issue. Can you launch any other java application and see if that works? Yes, I can, but the result is negative: no other java app works. P.S. Also, consider unistalling Sun's java package (the one downloaded from Oracle site) and getting the Sun's java package from Debian non-free repo :-) # apt-get install sun-java6-plugin sun-java6-jre sun-java6-jdk sun-java6-bin Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done sun-java6-jre is already the newest version. sun-java6-jdk is already the newest version. sun-java6-bin is already the newest version. Good news. I looked thoroughly in /usr/lib/jvm, and discovered that there was also a java-6-sun-1.6.0.20 folder, whose bin/ was containing java. I managed to make it default: # update-alternatives --config java There are 3 alternatives which provide `java'. SelectionAlternative --- 1/usr/bin/gij-4.3 +2/usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/jre/bin/java * 3/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-1.6.0.20/bin/java and now Eclipse works like a charm. The Sun's version is actually incompatible in some way with Debian (Lenny, at least). The java-6-sun-1.6.0.20 was already installed, and comes from the non-free depos. But it was not recognized (and interpreted) by update-alternatives. Why? The problem is that I can't deinstall the other one (I see no way, either on Google, or here). It is also in /usr/bin/java. Any idea? Thanks. -- Merciadri Luca See http://www.student.montefiore.ulg.ac.be/~merciadri/ I use PGP. If there is an incompatibility problem with your mail client, please contact me. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: building 2.6.35
On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 1:40 PM, Stephen Powell zlinux...@wowway.com wrote: On Sun, 15 Aug 2010 05:27:12 -0400 (EDT), Angus Hedger wrote: On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 1:29 AM, Stephen Powell wrote: ... $ make-kpkg --append-to-version -custom5-686 --revision 2.6.32-18 \ --initrd --rootcmd fakeroot kernel_image modules_image ... Quick question, is there an advantage to building a modules_image .deb rather than having it build into the kernel? If you copy your module directly into the source tree, then you need to download a new kernel source tree and unpack it due to kernel maintenance, you lose your modifications. By keeping the out-of-kernel- source-tree modules in a separate directory, /usr/src/modules/..., you don't lose your modifications. You download and unpack the new kernel source, rebuild both packages, and install both packages. Simple. P.S. Angus: sorry for the inadvertent private e-mail earlier. I accidentally clicked on the wrong button. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- Hey, That makes a lot of sense, thanks for that! Regards, Angus ps, Dont worry about it! (I keep almost doing the same thing due to the daft way gmail handles replying to mailing lists via the web ui) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlkti=wmqte_lh=le4xyjhf=vpc2ni0wthczthgu...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Why is /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/sun-java6-6-12/jdk1.6.0_12 not recognized in update-alternatives?
On Sun, 15 Aug 2010 15:03:35 +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote: Camaleón wrote: (...) Me neither... maybe it's just an Eclipse issue. Can you launch any other java application and see if that works? Yes, I can, but the result is negative: no other java app works. Ugh... P.S. Also, consider unistalling Sun's java package (the one downloaded from Oracle site) and getting the Sun's java package from Debian non-free repo :-) # apt-get install sun-java6-plugin sun-java6-jre sun-java6-jdk sun-java6-bin Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done sun-java6-jre is already the newest version. sun-java6-jdk is already the newest version. sun-java6-bin is already the newest version. Good news. I looked thoroughly in /usr/lib/jvm, and discovered that there was also a java-6-sun-1.6.0.20 folder, whose bin/ was containing java. I managed to make it default: (...) Glad you finally got it working :-) (...) and now Eclipse works like a charm. The Sun's version is actually incompatible in some way with Debian (Lenny, at least). The java-6-sun-1.6.0.20 was already installed, and comes from the non-free depos. That is what I have, yes. But it was not recognized (and interpreted) by update-alternatives. Why? Dunno, I have no problems at all with the Sun's Java version of Debian repos, but I only got JRE, not the developem branch (JDK) :-? The problem is that I can't deinstall the other one (I see no way, either on Google, or here). It is also in /usr/bin/java. Any idea? This should help, at least for JRE: *** How do I uninstall Java for Linux? http://java.com/en/download/help/linux_uninstall.xml#jre *** It seems that you only have to delete the folder. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.08.15.13.27...@gmail.com
Re: Any package instillation breaks libraries.
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 09:11:12AM -0700, jeremy jozwik wrote: I am having a very annoying issue at the moment. any time i install a package via apt / synaptic / aptitude my internet connection fails. Before? After? Dowloading the packages? Installing them? this issue is beyond me. but so far i have narrowed it down to the shared libraries folders going bad. Any specific error message? i have a stable backup of my system that i have been copying over to my machine each time it fails. frist was a full system restore except /home. next i restored only /etc /lib /lib32 /lib64 and /usr. this latest restore i only copied the libraries in /lib /lib32 /lib64 and the usr folder libs. can anyone help me move past this issue. i dont know how installing some random package could destroy lib used by the internet connection or iceweasel. how can i avoid this issue and still be able to install packages? all packages are being pulled from the debian lenny repository... -- Tzafrir Cohen | tzaf...@jabber.org | VIM is http://tzafrir.org.il || a Mutt's tzaf...@cohens.org.il || best tzaf...@debian.org|| friend -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100815132810.gy17...@pear.tzafrir.org.il
Re: Replacing an HDD: will it be labeled as before?
On Sun, 15 Aug 2010 14:42:54 +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote: Camaleón wrote: (...) Say now that I manage to copy my home to the new HDD (in ext3) which will replace the old one. If I physically put a new HDD at the place of the old one, will I encounter issues? Most probably, yes. There is a high chance the system detects the new device as /dev/sdd. Reusing existing device names is not what I would expect as it could overlap the current setup :-/ Okay. So, there would be no /dev/sdc, but a /dev/sdd? I can't say for sure. But last time I played with disks (putting new ones, removing others...) I get that behaviour, yes. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.08.15.13.43...@gmail.com
Re: Replacing an HDD: will it be labeled as before?
Camaleón wrote: On Sun, 15 Aug 2010 14:42:54 +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote: Camaleón wrote: (...) Say now that I manage to copy my home to the new HDD (in ext3) which will replace the old one. If I physically put a new HDD at the place of the old one, will I encounter issues? Most probably, yes. There is a high chance the system detects the new device as /dev/sdd. Reusing existing device names is not what I would expect as it could overlap the current setup :-/ Okay. So, there would be no /dev/sdc, but a /dev/sdd? I can't say for sure. But last time I played with disks (putting new ones, removing others...) I get that behaviour, yes Okay. Thanks. -- Merciadri Luca See http://www.student.montefiore.ulg.ac.be/~merciadri/ I use PGP. If there is an incompatibility problem with your mail client, please contact me. A rolling stone gathers no moss. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
kvm virtualization, consistent guest backup
Hello. I have kvm guests running from lvm partitions on the host. Is there a way to make consistent backups of the guest without shutting them down? The major problem I see is that there's no way to freeze a filesystem inside a guest to make an lvm snapshot from the host. Does anyone have any (positive) experience with this setup? thanks mk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100815140026.GD15196@/bin/hostname
Re: Why is /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/sun-java6-6-12/jdk1.6.0_12 not recognized in update-alternatives?
Camaleón wrote: On Sun, 15 Aug 2010 15:03:35 +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote: Camaleón wrote: (...) Me neither... maybe it's just an Eclipse issue. Can you launch any other java application and see if that works? Yes, I can, but the result is negative: no other java app works. Ugh... P.S. Also, consider unistalling Sun's java package (the one downloaded from Oracle site) and getting the Sun's java package from Debian non-free repo :-) # apt-get install sun-java6-plugin sun-java6-jre sun-java6-jdk sun-java6-bin Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done sun-java6-jre is already the newest version. sun-java6-jdk is already the newest version. sun-java6-bin is already the newest version. Good news. I looked thoroughly in /usr/lib/jvm, and discovered that there was also a java-6-sun-1.6.0.20 folder, whose bin/ was containing java. I managed to make it default: (...) Glad you finally got it working :-) (...) and now Eclipse works like a charm. The Sun's version is actually incompatible in some way with Debian (Lenny, at least). The java-6-sun-1.6.0.20 was already installed, and comes from the non-free depos. That is what I have, yes. But it was not recognized (and interpreted) by update-alternatives. Why? Dunno, I have no problems at all with the Sun's Java version of Debian repos, but I only got JRE, not the developem branch (JDK) :-? The problem is that I can't deinstall the other one (I see no way, either on Google, or here). It is also in /usr/bin/java. Any idea? This should help, at least for JRE: *** How do I uninstall Java for Linux? http://java.com/en/download/help/linux_uninstall.xml#jre *** It seems that you only have to delete the folder. That's what I thought too. Thanks, then. -- Merciadri Luca See http://www.student.montefiore.ulg.ac.be/~merciadri/ I use PGP. If there is an incompatibility problem with your mail client, please contact me. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: What to put on SSD
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 12:02:30PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: Grumpy Old Man says: sell the SSD and buy more RAM. Already did. Get more RAM that is. I went from 4 to 8 GB. 16 is max and I can go to 12 without swapping out existing memory. It's a work machine, so I can't just sell extra parts away, even if I don't necessarily need them :-) Regarding boot time. It may have gone down a bit, but since I have some kind of realtek network chip issue which causes a 30-60 s delay at boot time, it doesn't really make a difference. And since the machine is on 24/7 and get rebooted maybe 3-4 times a year for upgrades, it's a non-issue to me anyway. Pasi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100815122613.ga10...@localhost
mount USB drive read-write but only got read-only so far
I have a couple of questions about mounting and writing to a USB drive. I bought a 1Tb Western Digital 'Passport' HDD that powers itself from the USB, so just one cable to plug in. I want to use it to back up both my Debian box and my girlfriend's Mac which uses Time Machine. I let the Time Machine back-up use it first and now I'm trying to put my stuff on it from Debian, but HAL will only mount it read-only. First of all, can I use pmount myself to mount it read-write somehow? From fdisk -l, I see my ext HDD is called /dev/sdc1. But when I do pmount /dev/sdc1, I get a directory /media/sdc1 but it's empty. I tried it with sudo and same result. It seems most people have other problems with Time Machine back-ups like just reading them at all or creating them, and I haven't found anybody talking about what I can do to share the hard drive with one. And if I can mount it read-write, will it stuff the Time Machine back-up? I guess I can experiment, the back-up's not critical to keep at this time. Thanks in advance Adam -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c67f85d.40...@cyberspaceroad.com
Re: mount USB drive read-write but only got read-only so far
On Sun, 15 Aug 2010 15:23:25 +0100, Adam Hardy wrote: (...) It seems most people have other problems with Time Machine back-ups like just reading them at all or creating them, and I haven't found anybody talking about what I can do to share the hard drive with one. And if I can mount it read-write, will it stuff the Time Machine back-up? I guess I can experiment, the back-up's not critical to keep at this time. Why not make 2 partitions of ~500 GiB for each of you? That way things wont be messed and you can choose different filesystems and permissions for the stored files :-? Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.08.15.14.56...@gmail.com
Re: Any package instillation breaks libraries.
On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 6:28 AM, Tzafrir Cohen tzaf...@cohens.org.il wrote: Before? After? Dowloading the packages? Installing them? after instillation. Any specific error message? nothing that i can really see. in text. the only reason i know the network has stopped functioning is my panel weather space displays a -- and iceweasel cannot connect to any web. i can ping www.google.com and get responses. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktikzqz_g=q4ff1-kr-dxcxijuzfudgbb3mzrn...@mail.gmail.com
Re: mount USB drive read-write but only got read-only so far
Camaleón on 15/08/10 15:56, wrote: On Sun, 15 Aug 2010 15:23:25 +0100, Adam Hardy wrote: (...) It seems most people have other problems with Time Machine back-ups like just reading them at all or creating them, and I haven't found anybody talking about what I can do to share the hard drive with one. And if I can mount it read-write, will it stuff the Time Machine back-up? I guess I can experiment, the back-up's not critical to keep at this time. Why not make 2 partitions of ~500 GiB for each of you? That way things wont be messed and you can choose different filesystems and permissions for the stored files :-? Yes, OK I guess that's the best way. After thrashing around like a psycho in a straight-jacket for a while, I saw this in /var/log/messages which probably explains the problem: Aug 15 14:38:58 localhost kernel: [174941.037671] hfs: write access to a journaled filesystem is not supported, use the force option at your own risk, mounting read-only. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c680c12.8090...@cyberspaceroad.com
Re: wicd refuses to start
On Sun, 15 Aug 2010 07:52:29 +0100, Liviu Andronic wrote: Dear all After some recent updates, I assume, wicd strangely refuses to start. li...@debian-liv:~$ wicd-gtk [. . .] Yes, I'm getting that as well. My WM is fluxbox. I'm using wicd 1.7.0 on an outdated Debian squeeze. Debian squeeze as well, but most up to date. However, it starts just fine with li...@debian-liv:~$ wicd-gtk --no-tray . . . or from root I've skimmed through the discussions in http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=588205 and seems that your solution is most applicable to me. Thanks for spending time looking into it. cheers -- Tong (remove underscore(s) to reply) http://xpt.sourceforge.net/techdocs/ http://xpt.sourceforge.net/tools/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/i4926u$ll...@dough.gmane.org
Re: wicd refuses to start
On Sun, 15 Aug 2010 12:32:52 +0300 Andrei Popescu andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: What Desktop Environment are you using? Xfce, with its xfce4-notifyd. I just went through the bug report and disabling notification in wicd seems to do the trick. As a work-around, this is fine with me. I'm using wicd 1.7.0 on an outdated Debian squeeze. I guess you mean updated ;) No, I actually meant very outdated. I have ~1300 upstream upgrades available, enough to consider moving to Xubuntu. :) I think I'm losing interest in a rolling distro (having previously been on Gentoo): in many cases I'm simply building from source the packages that I need to be recent, and that list is relatively small. Regards Liviu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100815173658.4d940...@debian-liv
Re: Why is troubleshooting Linux so hard?
On Sun, 15 Aug 2010 02:00:52 -0400, Borden Rhodes wrote: I'm going to list some of the frustrations I've been having with troubleshooting Linux's quirks, crashes and problems in hopes that someone may be able to help me (and the community) become better bug reporters and troubleshooters. I'll make comparisons to Windows only because I am used to fixing the same problems in Windows a certain way - maybe there are analogies in Linux or maybe I'm approaching these problems the wrong way. I'm not trying to troll or flame-bait. I'm using Debian Squeeze, by the way. 1) Is there a way to apply debugging symbols retroactively to a dump? (...) Dunno, but in all the time I was using linux, never had to install a - dbg package to solve 99% of the problems :-) Anyway, true is that every piece of code (kernel, gnome apps, kde apps, mozilla apps...) have their own system for debugging problems. 2) I find that the logs contain lots of facts but not a whole lot of useful information (if any) when something goes wrong. (...) Ugh, in windows is even worst :-( I find linux logging to be very useful (for finding real problems) and highly configurable. Is not uncommon to have a verbose switch available for every program that tends to provide very detailed information. The problem here is knowing what (what program is involved in the crash) and so where to look into. Expertise helps here. 3) Linux needs better troubleshooting and recovery systems. Yes, I agree this point can be improved and automated. But -generally speaking- I find linux debugging system to be far useful than Windows one. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.08.15.17.03...@gmail.com
konqueror crashing
not sure what happened, might be the trinity install, but konqueror isn't working anymore under gnome or KDE ( but it is working for trinity). when I run it from a terminal I get this: $ konqueror - It looks like dcopserver is already running. If you are sure that it is not already running, remove /home/pbc/.DCOPserver_paulandcilla.homelinux.org__0 and start dcopserver again. - kdeinit: Communication error with launcher. Exiting! QComboBox::pixmap: (history combo) Index 0 out of range ^C suggestions? -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux user # 367800 Registered Ubuntu User #12459 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201008151319.35016.deb...@pcartwright.com
Re: wicd refuses to start
On Du, 15 aug 10, 17:36:58, Liviu Andronic wrote: I'm using wicd 1.7.0 on an outdated Debian squeeze. I guess you mean updated ;) No, I actually meant very outdated. I have ~1300 upstream upgrades Earlier you mentioned an update... available, enough to consider moving to Xubuntu. :) I think I'm losing interest in a rolling distro (having previously been on Gentoo): in many cases I'm simply building from source the packages that I need to be recent, and that list is relatively small. squeeze is frozen now, until the release only bugfixes will come in and after that only security updates. Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: konqueror crashing
On Sun, 15 Aug 2010 13:19:34 -0400, Paul Cartwright wrote: not sure what happened, might be the trinity install, but konqueror isn't working anymore under gnome or KDE ( but it is working for trinity). when I run it from a terminal I get this: $ konqueror - It looks like dcopserver is already running. If you are sure that it is not already running, remove /home/pbc/.DCOPserver_paulandcilla.homelinux.org__0 and start dcopserver again. - kdeinit: Communication error with launcher. Exiting! QComboBox::pixmap: (history combo) Index 0 out of range ^C suggestions? Did you try to follow the suggested steps? Greetins, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.08.15.17.25...@gmail.com
Re: building 2.6.35
On Sun, 15 Aug 2010 09:11:21 -0400 (EDT), Angus Hedger wrote: Stephen Powell wrote: If you copy your module directly into the source tree, then you need to download a new kernel source tree and unpack it due to kernel maintenance, you lose your modifications. By keeping the out-of-kernel- source-tree modules in a separate directory, /usr/src/modules/..., you don't lose your modifications. You download and unpack the new kernel source, rebuild both packages, and install both packages. Simple. That makes a lot of sense, thanks for that! Official Debian packages designed to be compiled as source and used as out-of-kernel-source-tree kernel modules are generally packaged in such a way that they can be installed and used either way, either by installing kernel headers and compiling using just the headers, or compiled using a kernel source package. For example, see the /usr/share/doc/nvidia-kernel-*source/README.Debian file in the various nvidia kernel source module packages. This file documents both compilation and installation methods and you can choose the one that suits your particular environment best. On the other hand, if you are downloading upstream source directly from the upstream site and following their installation procedure, they may give you a one size fits all installation procedure that requires kernel headers. That's one reason why it is best to use official Debian packages whenever possible. The Debian packages have been customized by the Debian package maintainer to do things the Debian way. As I say in my kernel- building web page, there are three ways to do everything: the right way, the wrong way, and the Debian way! -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1371450646.109819.1281894198479.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
Re: konqueror crashing
On Sun August 15 2010, Camaleón wrote: $ konqueror - It looks like dcopserver is already running. If you are sure that it is not already running, remove /home/pbc/.DCOPserver_paulandcilla.homelinux.org__0 and start dcopserver again. - kdeinit: Communication error with launcher. Exiting! QComboBox::pixmap: (history combo) Index 0 out of range ^C suggestions? Did you try to follow the suggested steps? well, no, dcopserver has been running since: pbc 9203 1 0 Jun29 ?00:00:55 dcopserver [kdeinit] --nosid --suicide do I have to log out back in? restart it? how? -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux user # 367800 Registered Ubuntu User #12459 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201008151345.25927.deb...@pcartwright.com
Re: kvm virtualization, consistent guest backup
On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 03:50:28PM +, T o n g wrote: On Sun, 15 Aug 2010 16:00:26 +0200, Martin Kraus wrote: Is there a way to make consistent backups of the guest without shutting them down? The major problem I see is that there's no way to freeze a filesystem inside a guest to make an lvm snapshot from the host. Have you considered making live backups from inside the guest on to USB HDDs since kvm supports them just fine? The problem isn't where to backup but how. the problem is to get consistent filesystem, consisten data in the filesystem and who know what other problems. what I was surprised about is that there is really no documentation or usable howto besides how to backup your desktop or small bussiness server. What I need is to backup several virtual hosts with 20 or so guests with as little downtime as possible. Simplest way so far is to shutdown the guest, make a snapshot and start it again and then backup data from that snapshot. I would like to find out if there is something more usable than that. If linux gets used in enterprise environments it has to be able to backup itself without turning off the guest but I see several problems with that and I can't find any answers to them. mk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100815174849.GF15196@/bin/hostname
Re: building 2.6.35
On Sat, Aug 14 2010, Stephen Powell wrote: Oops! I forgot to show the make-kpkg clean step after make menuconfig. I'm not sure if this is still needed anymore, but it's good practice. In real life, I did issue it; but when I composed the e-mail, I forgot to document it. With the new versions of kernel-package in Squeeze, running make-kpkg clean should almost never be required (if the upstream Makefiles are not borked, as they rarely are). The new make-kpkg starts by removing and re-creating ./debian almost always, so the explicit clean is redundant. manoj -- A kid'll eat the middle of an Oreo, eventually. Manoj Srivastava sriva...@acm.org http://www.golden-gryphon.com/ 4096R/C5779A1C E37E 5EC5 2A01 DA25 AD20 05B6 CF48 9438 C577 9A1C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87eidzlq3e@anzu.internal.golden-gryphon.com
Re: konqueror crashing
On Sun, 15 Aug 2010 13:45:25 -0400, Paul Cartwright wrote: On Sun August 15 2010, Camaleón wrote: $ konqueror - It looks like dcopserver is already running. If you are sure that it is not already running, remove /home/pbc/.DCOPserver_paulandcilla.homelinux.org__0 and start dcopserver again. - kdeinit: Communication error with launcher. Exiting! QComboBox::pixmap: (history combo) Index 0 out of range ^C suggestions? Did you try to follow the suggested steps? well, no, dcopserver has been running since: pbc 9203 1 0 Jun29 ?00:00:55 dcopserver [kdeinit] --nosid --suicide do I have to log out back in? restart it? how? Just delete the mentioned file and restart dcopserver to see if you get any improvement. How to restart it? Restarting the computer is the safest method. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.08.15.18.12...@gmail.com
Re: Connection loss to mounted nfs volume
Sorry guys for the incremental mess I made in this mailing list.Must be a bug in claws-mail's IMAP handling. robert -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlkti=av=vic71e1lvv4ww=+_aa_xm0xn2fswe5f...@mail.gmail.com
Re: konqueror crashing
On Sun August 15 2010, Camaleón wrote: Did you try to follow the suggested steps? well, no, dcopserver has been running since: pbc 9203 1 0 Jun29 ? 00:00:55 dcopserver [kdeinit] --nosid --suicide do I have to log out back in? restart it? how? Just delete the mentioned file and restart dcopserver to see if you get any improvement. How to restart it? Restarting the computer is the safest method. Greetings, thankfully I didn't have to restart the computer: $ uptime 14:35:35 up 47 days, 10:29, 4 users, load average: 1.01, 0.64, 0.54 all it took was deleting that file (ok, I moved it) mv .DCOPserver_paulandcilla.homelinux.org__0 .DCOPserver_paulandcilla.homelinux.org__0.orig and ran konqueror and it worked. I had first logged in the guest account using gnome and it also worked, so recreating/deleting that file was the answer. learned something new! I hate just reboot, I'd rather learn WHY.. -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux user # 367800 Registered Ubuntu User #12459 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201008151437.59870.deb...@pcartwright.com
Bootable Flag: toggle problem with squeeze
I'm doing a fresh install of squeeze from USB key on a disk that had a unused copy of lenny on it. Ran into a problem when manually partitioning the disk. The first partition I went to create was a /boot primary partition, but I found that the partitioning utility wouldn't toggle its bootable status. I see that at one point this was a bug, but my impression is that it was fixed. I gather a solution is to make the /boot partition bootable by running cfdisk on it. I do Alt-F2 to get ~#, but find that cfdisk it is not an available command. So how can I run cfdisk on the disk before the installation finishes and there's a reboot? Haines Brown -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/878w477lxf@teufel.historicalmaterialism.info
mdadm without initramfs
Hi all, I've set up a new machine with sw raid1. / and /boot are on seperated arrays. raid1 support is compiled direct into 2.6.35.1. The machine is only bootable with an initramfs created by the hints in /usr/share/doc/mdadm/README.upgrading-2.5.3.gz. How do I set up mdadm to create the root array witout an initramfs? Booting the sw raid1 setup without an initramfs ended up with an invalid raid superblock magic on sd[ab]* The setup was booting ext4 before creating the arrays without an intramfs. Thanks for any hints. Elimar -- You cannot propel yourself forward by patting yourself on the back. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100815190053.ga4...@gandalf.home.lxtec.de
Transmitting a webcam's flux to the Internet: how?
Hi, Many cities/special places, etc., have `live' webcams which allow Internet users to see these places `live.' This is often achieved thanks to hosting websites, etc. I'm here asking myself how I could, from a device (not necessarily a traditional computer), send the webcam flux to the Internet. Say that I can capture the flux, in a given format, this flux being constituted by one image taken every x second(s) (where x - fluidity ). Then, how could I transmit it to the Internet? How do live webcam generally work? I did not find anything on the Internet about this. If one finds a pointer, I'm okay to read more. Thanks. -- Merciadri Luca See http://www.student.montefiore.ulg.ac.be/~merciadri/ I use PGP. If there is an incompatibility problem with your mail client, please contact me. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: wicd refuses to start
On Sun, 15 Aug 2010 20:21:04 +0300 Andrei Popescu andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: Earlier you mentioned an update... I was referring to a selective update using aptitude. available, enough to consider moving to Xubuntu. :) I think I'm losing interest in a rolling distro (having previously been on Gentoo): in many cases I'm simply building from source the packages that I need to be recent, and that list is relatively small. squeeze is frozen now, until the release only bugfixes will come in and after that only security updates. Thanks for the info. Regards Liviu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100815203525.2f38e...@debian-liv
Re: Transmitting a webcam's flux to the Internet: how?
On Sun, 15 Aug 2010 21:18:36 +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote: Many cities/special places, etc., have `live' webcams which allow Internet users to see these places `live.' This is often achieved thanks to hosting websites, etc. I'm here asking myself how I could, from a device (not necessarily a traditional computer), send the webcam flux to the Internet. Well, IP cameras usually provide an embedded web server to distribute the flux directly or a facility (a client) to send the streaming to an online service. Standard (USB) webcams require a bit of manual tweaking. Say that I can capture the flux, in a given format, this flux being constituted by one image taken every x second(s) (where x - fluidity ). Then, how could I transmit it to the Internet? How do live webcam generally work? I did not find anything on the Internet about this. If one finds a pointer, I'm okay to read more. You can take a look into camstream or webcam-server, both available for Lenny :-) Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.08.15.19.50...@gmail.com
Re: Transmitting a webcam's flux to the Internet: how?
Hi, You didn't find anything on the Internet? http://lmgtfy.com/?q=linux+webcam+streaming I assume your 'device' is running some *nix variant, in which case it doesn't seem that hard (i've never tried it, i'm just judging by the search results). However, snapshots every second are not what i'd call a live feed. In that case, as a suggestion, just use the same file name for every snapshot and have an html page with a meta refresh. There are more elegant ways, of course. HTH, Nuno -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktimcbgcpvpv4xffjj-jnfw3+wprfyjz72vgik...@mail.gmail.com
Re: building 2.6.35
On Sun, 15 Aug 2010 13:53:41 -0400 (EDT), Manoj Srivastava wrote: With the new versions of kernel-package in Squeeze, running make-kpkg clean should almost never be required (if the upstream Makefiles are not borked, as they rarely are). The new make-kpkg starts by removing and re-creating ./debian almost always, so the explicit clean is redundant. That would imply that things like --append-to-version and --revision must be specified on every invocation, correct? One cannot, for example, specify --append-to-version and --revision with the kernel_image target and then leave them off with a subsequent invocation for the modules_image target. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1972237850.112409.1281903895526.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
DHClient Exit Scripts
I've been reading the man pages for dhclient, but I'm stuck with one key question I've missed. I have an exit script set up to notify me of the IP address of a particular system (on a LAN) whenever the IP address changes. For now I'm testing, but in the future it'll be running where I have no control over DHCP or any servers. This system will be just plugged into the power outlet and into a CAT5 cable hooked to a hub or switch, so it has to get a dynamic IP address from the DHCP and it has to be able to alert me to what the new IP address is. I know whenever dhclient runs, it runs the exit scripts. The one issue I'm not clear of is whether the exit scripts will be run any time the IP address changes, like when a lease expires. I know it'll run at reboot or if networking is restarted, but will the exit scripts be run when the IP address is changed by the DHCP? If it's not, is there any program that runs under those conditions? Thanks! Hal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1af890a5-5bf9-46c9-8c4b-b709170dd...@halblog.com
Re: mdadm without initramfs
In 20100815190053.ga4...@gandalf.home.lxtec.de, Elimar Riesebieter wrote: How do I set up mdadm to create the root array witout an initramfs? You can't. mdadm is a user-space binary that can't be compiled into the kernel images. Therefore, to run mdadm you need an initramfs, or the file system containing '/' must already be mounted by the kernel. Last I checked, it is possible to have the kernel itself start the root array, via a (series of) kernel command-line arguments. However, this doesn't use mdadm or any of its configuration files. Similarly, mdadm doesn't read the kernel command-line, so it is possible the configurations to diverge. It may be possible to have a GRUB2 hook to generate the kernel command-line arguments from the mdadm configuration, but I've not seen such a hook. In the absence of such a hook (or when you are not using GRUB2 as your bootloader), you should simply use an initramfs. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. b...@iguanasuicide.net ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.net/\_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
