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Re: pppd odczyt predkosci DL/UL
W dniu 4 września 2010 14:54 użytkownik R.M.M rm...@op.pl napisał: Witam, czy jest jakis sposob, zeby zmusic pppd do wyplucia informacji o szerokosci pasma, jakie przydzielil serwer pppoe dla aktualnego polaczenia? Moj stary router DSL wyswietlal takie informacje (zanim jeszcze otrzymal IP od providera, wiec zakladam, ze musza przychodzic w trakcie/tuz po ustanowieniu polaczenia przez pppd). Teraz lacze sie przez goly modem, z ktorym nie ma mozliwosci polaczyc sie, zeby odczytac jakiekolwiek informacje diagnostyczne. Wystarczy sprawdzic logi (syslog lub dmesg w zaleznosci od konfiguracji) pozdr. -- Wojciech Ziniewicz http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2324.txt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-polish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktik7zk_r4dako_g4ubkgozxmhpbzdq0rfsqhv...@mail.gmail.com
Re: pppd odczyt predkosci DL/UL
W dniu 2010-09-04 19:08, Wojciech Ziniewicz pisze: W dniu 4 września 2010 14:54 użytkownik R.M.Mrm...@op.pl napisał: Witam, czy jest jakis sposob, zeby zmusic pppd do wyplucia informacji o szerokosci pasma, jakie przydzielil serwer pppoe dla aktualnego polaczenia? Moj stary router DSL wyswietlal takie informacje (zanim jeszcze otrzymal IP od providera, wiec zakladam, ze musza przychodzic w trakcie/tuz po ustanowieniu polaczenia przez pppd). Teraz lacze sie przez goly modem, z ktorym nie ma mozliwosci polaczyc sie, zeby odczytac jakiekolwiek informacje diagnostyczne. Wystarczy sprawdzic logi (syslog lub dmesg w zaleznosci od konfiguracji) Mowisz?;) Sprawdzilem dokladnie zanim napisalem. Nawet z wlaczona opcja debug nigdzie nie ma ani slowa o tym, jaka jest predkosc ustanowionego polaczenia. Szukalem juz nawet czy moze pppd trzeba jakis sygnal wyslac, zeby sie rozgadalo, ale niestety... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-polish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c828b3f.1020...@op.pl
Re: pppd odczyt predkosci DL/UL
W dniu 4 września 2010 20:09 użytkownik R.M.M rm...@op.pl napisał: Mowisz?;) Sprawdzilem dokladnie zanim napisalem. Nawet z wlaczona opcja debug nigdzie nie ma ani slowa o tym, jaka jest predkosc ustanowionego polaczenia. Szukalem juz nawet czy moze pppd trzeba jakis sygnal wyslac, zeby sie rozgadalo, ale niestety... Mam modem Thomson SpeedTouch 330 (sterownik speedtch). # dmesg | grep 'line is up' ATM dev 0: ADSL line is up (1312 kb/s down | 320 kb/s up) -- Krzysztof Burghardt krzysz...@burghardt.pl http://www.burghardt.pl/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-polish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktikhalz2dnqg=nn_xekunwe3fshn+2mp=pvnc...@mail.gmail.com
Re: hardw antiguo
linux no corre en ordenadores de 16bits. como minimo necesitas una cpu de 32bits como una intel 80386. debian tambien soporta otras arquitecturas exoticas, pero no creo que estes hablando de esas. El 4 de septiembre de 2010 02:41, alejo piulachs ae...@hotmail.comescribió: mande una pregunta a debian-proj...@lists.debian.org y me dieron esta direccion bueno tengo un ordenador viejo de 16bits con 1giga y yo pense en usarlo como servidor dns el problema es el software que tengo etch tenia woody pero lo perdi e igualmente no se podria podriais darme consejo porfa? no quiero tirar el ordenador saludos
Re: hardw antiguo
2010/9/4 alejo piulachs ae...@hotmail.com mande una pregunta a debian-proj...@lists.debian.org y me dieron esta direccion bueno tengo un ordenador viejo de 16bits con 1giga y yo pense en usarlo como servidor dns el problema es el software que tengo etch tenia woody pero lo perdi e igualmente no se podria podriais darme consejo porfa? no quiero tirar el ordenador saludos cual es la arquitectura? esa maquina tiene soporte hardware de red? -- Marc
Re: Consulta sobre placa red usb RJ45
2010/9/3 insulae insu...@gmail.com hola gente estoy viendo que en mercadolibre ( o ebay) venden unas placas de red usb rj45, vienen con chipset realtek aparentemente, alguien a probado si funciona bien en Linux?. Necesito hacer balanceo con un par de ADSL y no consigo mother con 6 o mas ranuras pci/pcie y de funcionar sería una opcion muy barata comparandola con un SWITCH VLAN o las placas PCIE o PCI de 2 puertos. sin buscar mucho he encontrado un swithc tplink fast ethernet de 5 puertos por 7 euros. http://landashop.com/catalog/fast-ethernet-switch-tlsf1005d-10100m-rj45-ports-plastic-case-p-975.html porque lo quieres con vlans? -- Marc
Debian 7.0, se llamará Wheezy
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Leo, y voy leyendo en distintas fuentes: http://www.muylinux.com/2010/09/04/debian-7-se-llamara-wheezy Ahora ya sabemos qué nombre va a tener... - -- Slds. de Santiago José López Borrazás. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQIVAwUBTIKDIoFZAuZYtJmMAQqPdQ//V+gVOrgIia8nIUEPTDHdVBUO/5v2314n ihHaRXu7KkQOr5GslCXuLgV8FUdYgzGbmwOL7QX41qNh11xfPGaONW1xxsqP180e E2EVox91cyn4zajNFh+XENI3j7hqfxz1X5no+b53t8iOYoDWZcTbgu4gcsikH+9u Fix+2BtAsUEeOjBzpJdk2vQkbZWHSpZyRyw1JtzII+xhjbvInRKb4BcYqN8x9a0m 1EnJ4lEHHBgcaMHwf5QhjtGC0tSDhN+Qhc/1Xgak5QJvHg0ReC7v2roq+U1pCzY1 2oVwhiHAeSeNCP3yYHiQgt7vwXEkAP/J7rqEwRQnPRCC7GEkykbTSZdUURPBMrRj eU35XHn+YaPzHFczoAy+D5XanQRQO5eXlpzHGZQr5yiyMfwmpsWK/T8CV4j9Jw8J p5PECTZL5jn2/JALmAU03YLolj7e/w4GbehKXFlMG8xOFYIBoaVPPqTHBWOCnPW2 Oc4gqRL4WL4h35D0cP4imrsMfcj+QJm3C95WBxgZFIBV8OhZ6ItWp4/u0qH1v3Tg 8nldF9kp8pHgH47ZYavwtH2UqfL0D2tDNJZ+I13ymFWXp+dkp49guAYxxeeRRmjS lh1AcH0CA1WLQ+UDsc3iMiwge6446twh6nRiD6/kv6Zi+gAWbTfaZTwy30d0k0eV 6iVf83Qj94c= =MjhU -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c828322.7010...@sjlopezb.yahoo.es
Re: hardw antiguo
El sáb, 04-09-2010 a las 13:37 +0200, f5inet escribió: linux no corre en ordenadores de 16bits. como minimo necesitas una cpu de 32bits como una intel 80386. debian tambien soporta otras arquitecturas exoticas, pero no creo que estes hablando de esas. El 4 de septiembre de 2010 02:41, alejo piulachs ae...@hotmail.com escribió: mande una pregunta a debian-proj...@lists.debian.org y me dieron esta direccion bueno tengo un ordenador viejo de 16bits con 1giga y yo pense en usarlo como servidor dns el problema es el software que tengo etch tenia woody pero lo perdi e igualmente no se podria podriais darme consejo porfa? no quiero tirar el ordenador saludos Hola a todos Bueno regularmente usaría i386 como arquitectura, yo lo instale por medio de un CD de Debian en una máquina con 4 GB de espacio en disco duro y 62 MB de RAM con un procesador AMD de 166 MHz, o sea tipo Pentium I, le instale solo modo texto y un entorno de escritorio sencillo (icewm). Eso sí me tardé bastante tiempo en instalarla, cerca de 2 horas y media, y al momento de empezar el SO también tarda, cerca de 4 minutos, pero corre bien despues de haber cargado, aunque bueno yo uso icewm, sin escritorio debe tener mejor respuesta. Aunque si especificas que tipo de Maquina antigua tienes mejor. Ya que analizando los ordenadores de 16 bits no podrian ser soportados. Rosendo Antonio Manuel servicomsoft.es.tl
ext4
Venho aqui perguntar se alguém está tendo problema com o ext4. O problema é o seguinte: mesmo após um desligamento normal , no proximo reboot da máquina a mesma carrega com erros e o hd em somente leitura. ai é necessário outro reboot para que possa passar o fsck. No meu notebook este problema nunca aconteceu, mas no meu pc sempre está fazendo este erro. E agora também tenho visto este erro em um outra maquina que instalei. Se alguem passou por isto e achou solução agradeço respostas. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1283607054.3378.8.ca...@debian64.edmarcos
Re: ext4
Sim. Quando a data do sistema fica resetando, ai ele acha q há erros a cada boot. inte+ Em 4 de setembro de 2010 10:30, edmarcos edmarcos.so...@gmail.com escreveu: Venho aqui perguntar se alguém está tendo problema com o ext4. O problema é o seguinte: mesmo após um desligamento normal , no proximo reboot da máquina a mesma carrega com erros e o hd em somente leitura. ai é necessário outro reboot para que possa passar o fsck. No meu notebook este problema nunca aconteceu, mas no meu pc sempre está fazendo este erro. E agora também tenho visto este erro em um outra maquina que instalei. Se alguem passou por isto e achou solução agradeço respostas. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1283607054.3378.8.ca...@debian64.edmarcos -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktimcwyz5tqtszbz+xqppxrp1t_uw1 +e7a=...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Ajuda com Bind
Sem querer esquentar ou estender esse OT, você está testando de forma equivocada seu DNS. No Linux voce deve usar : dig develop.datahealth.com.br ou se o teu /etc/resolv.conf tá apontando para um DNS diferente : dig @seudns develop.datahealth.com.br No Windows é semalhante, mas usa-se um conjunto de ferramentas como o ipconfig /all para ver se a estação está apontando para o DNS correto, depois ipconfig /flushdns para limpar o cache-local e finalmente nslookup (analogo ao dig) para procurar develop.datahealth.com.br, ele dirá (ou não) o IPs registrados neste host/dominio. Com o ping voce testa apenas conectividade que eventualmente pode ser filtrado por firewalls no lado de origem até o destino, mas o ping não testa serviços. []'s Em 3 de setembro de 2010 12:24, Eduardo Pizorno pizo...@gmail.com escreveu: Bom dia pessoal, estou enfrentando alguns problemas com Bind aqui na rede interna, o problema é o seguinte montar um servidor dns com o bind bem simples, vou postar as configurações abaixo, ele está funcionando normalmente, o que ocorre é que as estações linux encontram os endereços normalmente, porém as estações windows simplesmente não os enxergam por exemplo: No Linux: pizo...@magicbox:~$ ping admin.develop.datahealth.com.br PING admin.develop.datahealth.com.br.datahealth.com.br (192.168.2.10) 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from develop.datahealth.com.br (192.168.2.10): icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=12.8 ms 64 bytes from develop.datahealth.com.br (192.168.2.10): icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=1.65 ms 64 bytes from develop.datahealth.com.br (192.168.2.10): icmp_seq=3 ttl=64 time=1.63 ms No Windows: ele simplesmente diz que o servidor ou caminho não encontrado Alguém já passou por problemas semelhante? Segue a configuração do bind $ORIGIN . $TTL 3600 ; 1 hour datahealth.com.br IN SOA urizen.datahealth.com.br. hostmaster.datahealth.com.br. ( 2010040806 ; serial 3600 ; refresh (1 hour) 900 ; retry (15 minutes) 604800 ; expire (1 week) 3600 ; minimum (1 hour) ) NS urizen.datahealth.com.br. $ORIGIN datahealth.com.br. urizen A 192.168.2.1 www A 189.126.116.52 develop A 192.168.2.10 admin A 189.126.116.52 server A 192.168.2.1 svn A 192.168.2.212 teste A 189.126.116.16 vpn A 192.168.2.213 xen A 192.168.2.211 *.develop.datahealth.com.br A 192.168.2.10 *.teste.datahealth.com.br A 189.126.116.16 *.admin.datahealth.com.br A 189.126.116.52 * A 189.126.116.52 Eduardo Pizorno -- Software livre sim, trabalho gratuito não. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktikfgzejxbtfej2stpoqtlzeovdbbbpldwuce...@mail.gmail.com
Re: problems with cpufreq utils
On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 9:39 AM, Alexander Samad a...@samad.com.au wrote: On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 10:49 PM, Davide Baldini baldiniebald...@gmail.com wrote: On 09/03/10 13:53, Alexander Samad wrote: [snip] I'd check if preformance does his job. Try set it with # cpufreq-set -g performance and stress the cpu to see if frequency rises, for example by yep already tried this for x in 0 1 2 3 ; do cpufreq-set -g performance -c $x; done this is what has me confused max:~# cpufreq-info -w ; cpufreq-info -f 80 300 one is the os perspective and the other is the hardware, the os things its running at 3G but the hardware says its still limited to 0.8G hz I have checked the bios as well fixed, when I check the bios I noticed the fan speed for the cpu was zero and the cpu temp was 108c. the cpu had shutdown to the slowest speed. new fan as is okay Alex # yes /dev/null Then avoid reboot and try videos. If everything turned fine check if your setting can sourvive a reboot and whether your debian needs a fix in his init scripts. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/i5qqsc$3o...@dough.gmane.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktinsjurap11hspfvr2mjycctpmqk+kbjgbbvn...@mail.gmail.com
Re: What's the Debian way of disabling suspend to disk?
On Friday 03 September 2010 18:47:20 Camaleón wrote: On Fri, 03 Sep 2010 19:22:52 +0200, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: Am Freitag, 3. September 2010 schrieb Lisi: No, I _can't_. That's the whole reason for my asking here. There is no option to hide the button. I've attached a tiny screenie where you can see the problematic combo box and the hibernation (Tiefschlaf) button right underneath. I'm still not clear why you cannot just remove it. Lisi Because there is no option for it. Oh, come on, it's just a widget :-) Right-click → remove this battery monitor My point exactly. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201009040832.05128.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Authenticating NFS users
I'm trying to set up NFS to use in a home made NAS and want to add some form of server based authentication for access. All of the information I can find seems to suggest using kerberos, is there a simpler alternative that could do something like check a username+password? Thanks in advance. -- Tixy () The ASCII Ribbon Campaign (www.asciiribbon.org) /\ Against HTML e-mail and proprietary attachments -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1283586758.12740.10.ca...@computer2.home
Re: Debian based NAS? What to buy?
Kevin Ross: On 09/01/2010 02:43 PM, Jochen Schulz wrote: What mainboar, CPU and case do you use? I am currently searching for a similar solution as well. I am considering to buy a Mini-ITX Atom board, but it's hard to find a decent case with enough space for 3-4 hard disks. This case might suit you: http://www.logicsupply.com/products/es34069 A little pricey, though. That looks almost perfect! It needs a slim DVD drive, but I can live with that. And the price tag is not *that* bad, considering that it includes a PSU. It's definitely cheaper than a separate enclosure for the disks. I am still just a little bit unsure about wattage. Do I need 180W with an Atom board (D510 + ION or NM10 chipset) + four hard drives and one optical drive? J. -- I want to look younger than my friends so I will fight ageing as long as I can. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Debian based NAS? What to buy?
Hey, On Sat, 4 Sep 2010 11:16:03 +0200 Jochen Schulz m...@well-adjusted.de wrote: That looks almost perfect! It needs a slim DVD drive, but I can live with that. And the price tag is not *that* bad, considering that it includes a PSU. It's definitely cheaper than a separate enclosure for the disks. I am still just a little bit unsure about wattage. Do I need 180W with an Atom board (D510 + ION or NM10 chipset) + four hard drives and one optical drive? Have a look here [1], I know it doesn’t have the D510, but if you do it for the atom 330 (which uses more power) you should be fine. J. [1]http://extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp -- Regards, Angus Hedger Debian GNU/Linux User PGP Public Key 0xEE6A4B97 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
/home/user folder accidentally removed
Hello, I wanted to remove trash folder, but home folder/home/user is gone. There was only one user. I couldn't start any program. When I restarted computer, I couldn't login. How can I recover system. Please help.. -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/540283.46531...@web57705.mail.re3.yahoo.com
Re: /home/user folder accidentally removed
On 9/4/2010 5:16 AM, Fatih Tiryakioglu wrote: Hello, I wanted to remove trash folder, but home folder/home/user is gone. There was only one user. I couldn't start any program. When I restarted computer, I couldn't login. How can I recover system. Please help.. -- Can you elaborate removed? rm -rf is irrecoverable by normal means. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c821d44.9030...@envygeeks.com
Re: /home/user folder accidentally removed
Fatih Tiryakioglu ftiryakio...@yahoo.com writes: I wanted to remove trash folder, but home folder/home/user is gone. There was only one user. I couldn't start any program. When I restarted computer, I couldn't login. How can I recover system. Please help.. 1) ctrl-alt-f1 2) login as root 3) mkdir /home/user 4) chown user:user /home/user 5) ctrl-alt-f7 6) try to login again as normal user -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/848w3hu7vf@sauna.l.org
Re: /home/user folder accidentally removed
Hello Fatih Tiryakioglu, Am 2010-09-04 03:16:42, hacktest Du folgendes herunter: Hello, I wanted to remove trash folder, but home folder/home/user is gone. There was only one user. I couldn't start any program. When I restarted computer, I couldn't login. How can I recover system. Please help.. You have to play back your backup... ;-) ...or do you want to tell us, you have none? -- then you have probably a problem! Thanks, Greetings and nice Day/Evening Michelle Konzack -- # Debian GNU/Linux Consultant ## Development of Intranet and Embedded Systems with Debian GNU/Linux itsyst...@tdnet France EURL itsyst...@tdnet UG (limited liability) Owner Michelle KonzackOwner Michelle Konzack Apt. 917 (homeoffice) 50, rue de Soultz Kinzigstraße 17 67100 Strasbourg/France 77694 Kehl/Germany Tel: +33-6-61925193 mobil Tel: +49-177-9351947 mobil Tel: +33-9-52705884 fix http://www.itsystems.tamay-dogan.net/ http://www.flexray4linux.org/ http://www.debian.tamay-dogan.net/ http://www.can4linux.org/ Jabber linux4miche...@jabber.ccc.de ICQ#328449886 Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/ signature.pgp Description: Digital signature
Re: /home/user folder accidentally removed
On 04.09.2010 13:16, Fatih Tiryakioglu wrote: I wanted to remove trash folder, but home folder/home/user is gone. There was only one user. I couldn't start any program. When I restarted computer, I couldn't login. How can I recover system. Please help.. Login as root from text console and create /home/user folder, chown it to user:user: mkdir /home/user chown user:user /home/user Settings and files are gone, anyway. -- Alex -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c821d74.3070...@kuklin.ru
Re: Authenticating NFS users
Op 04-09-10 10:52, Tixy schreef: I'm trying to set up NFS to use in a home made NAS and want to add some form of server based authentication for access. All of the information I can find seems to suggest using kerberos, is there a simpler alternative that could do something like check a username+password? You can use NFS via a SSH or VPN tunnel. The reason that it is complicated is that when you authenticate to the server, you need also a ticket that tells the server you authenticated. Else you'd need to type your password every time you check a file on the NFS. Kerberos is a clean way of exactly doing that: handing out the tickets to track sessions. SSH and VPN tunnels basically do the same: keep a lasting session. You can probably try some firewalling techniques for a simple a-little-less-easy access to the NFS. Sjoerd signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: sid: Console problems after starting X
On Vi, 03 sep 10, 16:54:25, Joel Roth wrote: drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0 drmOpenByBusid: Searching for BusID pci::01:05.0 drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0 drmOpenDevice: open result is 11, (OK) drmOpenByBusid: drmOpenMinor returns 11 drmOpenByBusid: drmGetBusid reports pci::01:05.0 (EE) RADEON(0): [dri] RADEONDRIGetVersion failed because of a version mismatch. [dri] This chipset requires a kernel module version of 1.17.0, [dri] but the kernel reports a version of 2.0.0.[dri] If using legacy modesetting, upgrade your kernel. [dri] If using kernel modesetting, make sure your module is [dri] loaded prior to starting X, and that this driver was built [dri] with support for KMS. [dri] Disabling DRI. This, combined with the fact that you are running a self-compiled kernel would indicate that you might miss some module. Can you try a stock kernel? Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Arrow keys won't scroll history in squeeze konsole/bash
On Fri, Sep 03, 2010 at 01:46:04PM -0800, James Zuelow wrote: Original Message From: James Zuelow [mailto:james_zue...@ci.juneau.ak.us] Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 4:31 PM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: RE: Arrow keys won't scroll history in squeeze konsole/bash 8---snip---8 I'm not the only one seeing this: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/kde4-up-key-stops-working-sporadically-828016/ Unlike the author of that post, I haven't remapped any of my keys. Everything should be stock. 8---snip---8 How I can reproduce: 1) Log in to KDE. The up arrow works fine. 2) Log out of KDE. Log back in again. The up-arrow does not work. 3) Log out of KDE, and restart the X server. Log back in, the up arrow works. Repeat. So I work around it by restarting the X server before I log in -- the up arrow will work for the FIRST login session. After that it will be ignored until I restart the X server again. OK, apparently I'm the only person seeing this on the mailing list. Unlike the author of the linuxquestions report above, changing my keyboard map does NOT help me. I still get the same problem regardless. Now a question for the list: Which package should I file a bug against? Between Xorg and KDE I'm not sure where to start -- although I'm pretty sure it's a KDE thing and not X. Plasma desktop? Or is there some subcomponent of KDE that handles the keyboard specifically? I have been experiencing this issue since I upgraded this box to KDE4, although there have been updates in X also. My workaround has been tweaking a xmodmap file I load the fisrt time I start konsole (xmodmap xmodmap.txt). Some things doesn't work OK yet, but makes things usable at the very least. (Many screen apps honor vi-style keys, so you can navigate using hjkl). Anyway, as a screen user, this is a real PITA, also, vi in command mode lacking AltGr makes difficult even to comment a line out: I gotta enter visual, copy the character and paste it afterwards. I can confirm that ouside X the keyboard behaves correctly, so I have been using xev to see what is going on. Some keys (AltGr, in this example) send btwo/b different events with different keycodes: KeyPress event, serial 40, synthetic NO, window 0x2e1, root 0x15a, subw 0x0, time 3950562, (378,154), root:(1265,306), state 0x10, keycode 108 (keysym 0xfe03, ISO_Level3_Shift), same_screen YES, XKeysymToKeycode returns keycode: 92 XLookupString gives 0 bytes: XmbLookupString gives 0 bytes: XFilterEvent returns: False MappingNotify event, serial 40, synthetic NO, window 0x0, request MappingKeyboard, first_keycode 8, count 248 KeyPress event, serial 40, synthetic NO, window 0x2e1, root 0x15a, subw 0x0, time 3950562, (378,154), root:(1265,306), state 0x90, keycode 113 (keysym 0x0, NoSymbol), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 0 bytes: XmbLookupString gives 0 bytes: XFilterEvent returns: False MappingNotify event, serial 42, synthetic NO, window 0x0, request MappingKeyboard, first_keycode 8, count 248 KeyRelease event, serial 42, synthetic NO, window 0x2e1, root 0x15a, subw 0x0, time 3950647, (378,154), root:(1265,306), state 0x90, keycode 108 (keysym 0xfe03, ISO_Level3_Shift), same_screen YES, XKeysymToKeycode returns keycode: 92 XLookupString gives 0 bytes: XFilterEvent returns: False MappingNotify event, serial 42, synthetic NO, window 0x0, request MappingKeyboard, first_keycode 8, count 248 KeyRelease event, serial 42, synthetic NO, window 0x2e1, root 0x15a, subw 0x0, time 3950647, (378,154), root:(1265,306), state 0x10, keycode 113 (keysym 0x0, NoSymbol), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 0 bytes: XFilterEvent returns: False For cursor keys, I remapped my xmodmap.txt to use only one of those keycodes, mapping the other to an empty string (example with cursor down): KeyPress event, serial 36, synthetic NO, window 0x2e1, root 0x15a, subw 0x0, time 4421665, (210,-23), root:(1056,0), state 0x10, keycode 116 (keysym 0x0, NoSymbol), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 0 bytes: XmbLookupString gives 0 bytes: XFilterEvent returns: False MappingNotify event, serial 36, synthetic NO, window 0x0, request MappingKeyboard, first_keycode 8, count 248 KeyPress event, serial 36, synthetic NO, window 0x2e1, root 0x15a, subw 0x0, time 4421665, (210,-23), root:(1056,0), state 0x10, keycode 104 (keysym 0xff54, Down), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 0 bytes: XmbLookupString gives 0 bytes: XFilterEvent returns: False MappingNotify event, serial 38, synthetic NO, window 0x0, request MappingKeyboard, first_keycode 8, count 248 KeyRelease event, serial 38, synthetic NO, window 0x2e1, root 0x15a, subw 0x0, time 4421733, (210,-23), root:(1056,0), state 0x10, keycode 116
Re: sid: Console problems after starting X
On Sat, Sep 04, 2010 at 01:35:28PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Vi, 03 sep 10, 16:54:25, Joel Roth wrote: drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0 drmOpenByBusid: Searching for BusID pci::01:05.0 drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0 drmOpenDevice: open result is 11, (OK) drmOpenByBusid: drmOpenMinor returns 11 drmOpenByBusid: drmGetBusid reports pci::01:05.0 (EE) RADEON(0): [dri] RADEONDRIGetVersion failed because of a version mismatch. [dri] This chipset requires a kernel module version of 1.17.0, [dri] but the kernel reports a version of 2.0.0.[dri] If using legacy modesetting, upgrade your kernel. [dri] If using kernel modesetting, make sure your module is [dri] loaded prior to starting X, and that this driver was built [dri] with support for KMS. [dri] Disabling DRI. This, combined with the fact that you are running a self-compiled kernel would indicate that you might miss some module. Can you try a stock kernel? Thanks for checking this out! Console *does* VT switching correctly under a stock 2.6.31-1-amd64 kernel. (But for some reason suspend doesn't work... will try a later kernel.) Why didn't I think of this? Probably because the kernel was working before. Mahalo Joel Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic -- Joel Roth -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100904112051.gb2...@sprite
Re: Ethernet connection
With the help coming from the present mailing list, I managed to connect my laptop with my old desktop PC via a cross ethernet cable, and to make them communicate via ping and transfer files using rsync. Today, strangely, on the laptop, instead of # ifconfig eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:03:0D:33:02:17 inet addr:192.168.0.1 Bcast:192.168.0.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 inet6 addr: fe80::203:dff:fe33:217/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:6 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:0 (0.0 b) TX bytes:468 (468.0 b) Interrupt:201 Base address:0xd800 loLink encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:86 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:86 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:9358 (9.1 KiB) TX bytes:9358 (9.1 KiB) I got: loLink encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:0 (0.0 b) TX bytes:0 (0.0 b) , and any connection with the cross cable was impossible. Also, the command `ifconfig eth1 192.168.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 up' gave: # ifconfig eth1 192.168.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 up SIOCSIFADDR: No such device eth1: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device SIOCSIFNETMASK: No such device eth1: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device Then I did: # ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 up , and then `ifconfig' gives: # ifconfig eth0 Link encap:UNSPEC HWaddr 00-03-0D-53-25-5C-86-16-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00 inet addr:192.168.0.1 Bcast:192.168.0.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:84 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:0 (0.0 b) TX bytes:3024 (2.9 KiB) loLink encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:75 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:75 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:8352 (8.1 KiB) TX bytes:8352 (8.1 KiB) , but the connection fails: $ ping 192.168.0.3 PING 192.168.0.3 (192.168.0.3) 56(84) bytes of data. From 192.168.0.1 icmp_seq=1 Destination Host Unreachable From 192.168.0.1 icmp_seq=2 Destination Host Unreachable From 192.168.0.1 icmp_seq=3 Destination Host Unreachable From 192.168.0.1 icmp_seq=4 Destination Host Unreachable From 192.168.0.1 icmp_seq=5 Destination Host Unreachable $ rsync -vr test 192.168.0.3:/home/rodolfo ssh: connect to host 192.168.0.3 port 22: No route to host rsync: connection unexpectedly closed (0 bytes received so far) [sender] rsync error: unexplained error (code 255) at io.c(453) [sender=2.6.9] , where 192.168.0.3 is the PC's address. Please help with issue Thanks Rodolfo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/878w3hbvnx@gmail.com
Re: Authenticating NFS users
On Sat, 2010-09-04 at 13:29 +0300, Sjoerd Hardeman wrote: Op 04-09-10 10:52, Tixy schreef: I'm trying to set up NFS to use in a home made NAS and want to add some form of server based authentication for access. All of the information I can find seems to suggest using kerberos, is there a simpler alternative that could do something like check a username+password? You can use NFS via a SSH or VPN tunnel. I originally tried just using SFTP as that comes for free and requires no setup. However the throughput was too low (5MB/s) due to maxing out the CPU on the server machine (a SheevaPlug). I'm guessing VPN would have similar CPU overheads. The reason that it is complicated is that when you authenticate to the server, you need also a ticket that tells the server you authenticated. Else you'd need to type your password every time you check a file on the NFS. Kerberos is a clean way of exactly doing that: handing out the tickets to track sessions. SSH and VPN tunnels basically do the same: keep a lasting session. You can probably try some firewalling techniques for a simple a-little-less-easy access to the NFS. Thanks for the explanation and suggestions. I beginning to question if I actually need any authentication. The files stored on the NAS don't contain sensitive data which isn't in encrypted files, and I have backups in case of deletion. So the probability and risk of malicious activity on my home network are very low. -- Tixy () The ASCII Ribbon Campaign (www.asciiribbon.org) /\ Against HTML e-mail and proprietary attachments -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1283599589.2464.32.ca...@computer2.home
Re: Authenticating NFS users
On 9/4/2010 5:29 AM, Sjoerd Hardeman wrote: Op 04-09-10 10:52, Tixy schreef: I'm trying to set up NFS to use in a home made NAS and want to add some form of server based authentication for access. All of the information I can find seems to suggest using kerberos, is there a simpler alternative that could do something like check a username+password? You can use NFS via a SSH or VPN tunnel. The reason that it is complicated is that when you authenticate to the server, you need also a ticket that tells the server you authenticated. Else you'd need to type your password every time you check a file on the NFS. Kerberos is a clean way of exactly doing that: handing out the tickets to track sessions. SSH and VPN tunnels basically do the same: keep a lasting session. You can probably try some firewalling techniques for a simple a-little-less-easy access to the NFS. Sjoerd Well, on a non-public facing NFS /etc/exports would do the trick on which hosts can mount what. There is also auth_sys, but that relies on a sort of trust ring really. As far as SSH tunneling, it's an unnecessary overhead if it's not a public network or public-facing network (on the entire network), if it's not public-facing and has wifi or people you can't trust who access it, I would then look into stream encryption. Normally in a cheapo situation I would have a public non-public NIC where the NAS server is on the non-public end tied to a switch and the public end (all computers but the NAS server) is simply tied to a router on the first NIC. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c823067.8010...@envygeeks.com
Re: /home/user folder accidentally removed
Jordon Bedwell wrote at 2010-09-04 05:19 -0500: On 9/4/2010 5:16 AM, Fatih Tiryakioglu wrote: I wanted to remove trash folder, but home folder/home/user is gone. There was only one user. I couldn't start any program. When I restarted computer, I couldn't login. How can I recover system. Please help.. Can you elaborate removed? rm -rf is irrecoverable by normal means. If your /home/user directory really has been deleted and you would like to attempt recovery, the first thing to do is avoid making any further writes to the filesystem the directory was on. Otherwise you can as root create /home/user, copy in the contents of /etc/skel, set the permissions, and then try logging in. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: sid: Console problems after starting X
On Sat, 04 Sep 2010 06:35:28 -0400 (EDT), Andrei Popescu wrote: On Vi, 03 sep 10, 16:54:25, Joel Roth wrote: drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0 drmOpenByBusid: Searching for BusID pci::01:05.0 drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0 drmOpenDevice: open result is 11, (OK) drmOpenByBusid: drmOpenMinor returns 11 drmOpenByBusid: drmGetBusid reports pci::01:05.0 (EE) RADEON(0): [dri] RADEONDRIGetVersion failed because of a version mismatch. [dri] This chipset requires a kernel module version of 1.17.0, [dri] but the kernel reports a version of 2.0.0.[dri] If using legacy modesetting, upgrade your kernel. [dri] If using kernel modesetting, make sure your module is [dri] loaded prior to starting X, and that this driver was built [dri] with support for KMS. [dri] Disabling DRI. This, combined with the fact that you are running a self-compiled kernel would indicate that you might miss some module. Can you try a stock kernel? Nice work, Andrei! -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1948183613.604400.1283605583354.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
Re: Ethernet connection
2010/9/4 Rodolfo Medina rodolfo.med...@gmail.com Today, strangely, on the laptop, instead of # ifconfig eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:03:0D:33:02:17 inet addr:192.168.0.1 Bcast:192.168.0.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 inet6 addr: fe80::203:dff:fe33:217/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:6 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:0 (0.0 b) TX bytes:468 (468.0 b) Interrupt:201 Base address:0xd800 loLink encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:86 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:86 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:9358 (9.1 KiB) TX bytes:9358 (9.1 KiB) I got: loLink encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:0 (0.0 b) TX bytes:0 (0.0 b) , and any connection with the cross cable was impossible. Also, the command `ifconfig eth1 192.168.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 up' gave: # ifconfig eth1 192.168.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 up SIOCSIFADDR: No such device eth1: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device SIOCSIFNETMASK: No such device eth1: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device Then I did: # ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 up , and then `ifconfig' gives: # ifconfig eth0 Link encap:UNSPEC HWaddr 00-03-0D-53-25-5C-86-16-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00 Strange MAC address, and device name is changed to be eth0. Have you upgraded your system or NIC driver or something else? May /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules have some info.
Re: /home/user folder accidentally removed
On Sat, Sep 04, 2010 at 03:16:42AM -0700, Fatih Tiryakioglu wrote: Hello, I wanted to remove trash folder, but home folder/home/user is gone. There was only one user. I couldn't start any program. When I restarted computer, I couldn't login. How can I recover system. Please help.. As someone else said, don't perform any more writes to the disk. Boot with a live CD, such as Debian Live, Knoppix, or Ubuntu. apt-get install testdisk. Then run a program called photorec. This may be able to find any important files that you deleted. Do some reading of the man pages for photorec before attempting to use it. It's not overly complicated, but if it's very important that you get your files back you'll want to know what you're doing. -Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100904134030.ga14...@aurora.owens.net
Squeeze System Bricked after Software Upgrades 09/04
I have a Panasonic subnotebook (CF-R3) that has been functioning superbly for months under Squeeze with Xfce/gdm. It has an integrated Intel video system and a Japanese / English keyboard with which I have used the standard kernel mapping (chosen during Expert install). This is Squeeze with no proprietary firmware and the stock repositories (no third party repositories, no non-free, all software installations throughout the history of the system on this OS being made through aptitude). This morning (09/04) after applying latest updates through aptitude, I rebooted the system. It hard locked after it started loading gdm. The REISUB key combination had no effect whatsoever on the system. I was unable to connect to it via Ethernet. I had to force it down with the power switch. I can boot into recovery mode. I used touch /forcefsck to get a file system check during a reboot. No errors reported. Below is the list of software upgrades applied this morning. --8- [INSTALL, DEPENDENCIES] libxapian22 [UPGRADE] apt 0.7.25.3 - 0.8.0 [UPGRADE] apt-utils 0.7.25.3 - 0.8.0 [UPGRADE] aptitude 0.6.3-3 - 0.6.3-3.1 [UPGRADE] aptitude-doc-en 0.6.3-3 - 0.6.3-3.1 [UPGRADE] firmware-linux-free 2.6.32-20 - 2.6.32-21 [UPGRADE] libept1 1.0.3 - 1.0.3+b1 [UPGRADE] libldap-2.4-2 2.4.17-2.1 - 2.4.23-4 [UPGRADE] libparted0debian1 2.3-1 - 2.3-2 [UPGRADE] libsdl-gfx1.2-4 2.0.20-1 - 2.0.20-1.1 [UPGRADE] linux-base 2.6.32-20 - 2.6.32-21 [UPGRADE] linux-image-2.6.32-5-686 2.6.32-20 - 2.6.32-21 [UPGRADE] python-apt 0.7.96.1 - 0.7.97.1 [UPGRADE] python-gobject 2.21.1-2 - 2.21.4+is.2.21.3-1 [UPGRADE] python-xapian 1.0.20-1 - 1.2.3-3 [UPGRADE] xserver-common 2:1.7.7-3 - 2:1.7.7-4 [UPGRADE] xserver-xephyr 2:1.7.7-3 - 2:1.7.7-4 [UPGRADE] xserver-xorg-core 2:1.7.7-3 - 2:1.7.7-4 --8- I have a very different notebook (Dell Precision M70) that has exactly the same installation history. (I run them side-by-side, relying upon the Panasonic system as an emergency backup if the Dell should fail.) No problems ever running Squeeze on these systems other than some minor issues in the Nouveau driver transition on the Dell system a couple of months ago. I've tried examining dmesg output, /var/log/syslog, /var/log/Xorg.0.log -- but, if there is evidence in there of why this is happening I'm not seeing it. (I'm happy to admit that I've in well over my head on this, though.) From the list of upgraded software I suppose that my problem is either with the linux-image upgrade or with the xserver upgrades. Unfortunately, I have no previous kernels from which to boot the system. It does not have an optical drive, but I can attach one to a USB port and boot another environment if need be. I have a feeling that this isn't a hardware issue, though. Would someone be willing to lead me through troubleshooting? I'd really appreciate it! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c825cca.4010...@comcast.net
Re: Squeeze System Bricked after Software Upgrades 09/04
On 04.09.2010 17:50, Gilbert Sullivan wrote: I have a Panasonic subnotebook (CF-R3) that has been functioning superbly for months under Squeeze with Xfce/gdm. It has an integrated Intel video system and a Japanese / English keyboard with which I have used the standard kernel mapping (chosen during Expert install). This is Squeeze with no proprietary firmware and the stock repositories (no third party repositories, no non-free, all software installations throughout the history of the system on this OS being made through aptitude). This morning (09/04) after applying latest updates through aptitude, I rebooted the system. It hard locked after it started loading gdm. The REISUB key combination had no effect whatsoever on the system. I was unable to connect to it via Ethernet. I had to force it down with the power switch. I can boot into recovery mode. I used touch /forcefsck to get a file system check during a reboot. No errors reported. 1) show a)`uname -a` output b) `lspci` output there are chances that the problem resides in new xorg drivers/code. Next steps depend on you particular video card model. -- Alex -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c826057@kuklin.ru
Re: Squeeze System Bricked after Software Upgrades 09/04
On 09/04/2010 11:05 AM, Alex Kuklin wrote: 1) show a)`uname -a` output b) `lspci` output there are chances that the problem resides in new xorg drivers/code. Next steps depend on you particular video card model. Thanks, Alex. ~# uname -a Linux argh 2.6.32-5-686 #1 SMP Wed Aug 25 14:28:12 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux ~# lspci 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82852/82855 GM/GME/PM/GMV Processor to I/O Controller (rev 02) 00:00.1 System peripheral: Intel Corporation 82852/82855 GM/GME/PM/GMV Processor to I/O Controller (rev 02) 00:00.3 System peripheral: Intel Corporation 82852/82855 GM/GME/PM/GMV Processor to I/O Controller (rev 02) 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82852/82855 GM/GME/PM/GMV Processor to AGP Controller (rev 02) 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02) 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02) 00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller #1 (rev 03) 00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-M) USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 03) 00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev 83) 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801DBM (ICH4-M) LPC Interface Bridge (rev 03) 00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801DBM (ICH4-M) IDE Controller (rev 03) 00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) SMBus Controller (rev 03) 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03) 02:01.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10) 02:05.0 CardBus bridge: Ricoh Co Ltd RL5c475 (rev 88) 02:05.1 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C575 SD Bus Host Adapter Sorry for the extra verbiage. I figured you only wanted video subsystem information, but I just redirected the output to a file on a flash drive and sneaker-netted it to the Dell. I figured I'd include it all instead of risking removing something that might have an outside chance of being useful. Thank you for your time, Gilbert -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c82648e.6060...@comcast.net
Re: Squeeze System Bricked after Software Upgrades 09/04
On 09/04/2010 11:07 AM, Damon L. Chesser wrote: Not an exact solution, but perhaps you should not run testing as a desktop: http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-choosing.en.html Not meant to be snarky, just trying to say testing is for testing. I understand what you're saying, but I made the switch to testing for a lot of reasons having to do with application functionality and (of course) curiosity. Besides, Debian testing has been a lot more solid for me on these systems than Ubuntu LTS was for me! It's all relative. ;-) I take good care of my data, so even the worst a total system meltdown can do is to cost me a couple of hours configuration time. I love Squeeze partially because it's giving me a chance to see and work through an occasional issue. I've been able to troubleshoot my way through almost all of the problems I've run into using the man files and other references. Now, on to something more helpful: can you boot the machine into a live distro of some sort, to verify that the machine it's self does not have a failure? I'll have to do a bit of rearranging to do that. It will probably be a couple of hours before I can try. I have to say that a hardware issue doesn't seem likely. It would be a heck of a coincidence. But I'll give it a shot. Thanks, Gilbert -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c826697.2050...@comcast.net
Re: Squeeze System Bricked after Software Upgrades 09/04
On 2010-09-04 17:23 +0200, Gilbert Sullivan wrote: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02) 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02) My crystal ball tells me that you've been hit by this change in the kernel: , | linux-2.6 (2.6.32-21) unstable; urgency=high | | [ Ben Hutchings ] | [...] | * [x86] i915: Blacklist i830, i845, i855 for KMS | (Closes: #568207, #582105, #593432, #593507) ` So downgrading the kernel would be my first attempt. Sven -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87hbi5ttar@turtle.gmx.de
Re: Squeeze System Bricked after Software Upgrades 09/04
On Sat, 2010-09-04 at 10:50 -0400, Gilbert Sullivan wrote: I have a Panasonic subnotebook (CF-R3) that has been functioning superbly for months under Squeeze with Xfce/gdm. It has an integrated Intel video system and a Japanese / English keyboard with which I have used the standard kernel mapping (chosen during Expert install). This is Squeeze with no proprietary firmware and the stock repositories (no third party repositories, no non-free, all software installations throughout the history of the system on this OS being made through aptitude). This morning (09/04) after applying latest updates through aptitude, I rebooted the system. It hard locked after it started loading gdm. The REISUB key combination had no effect whatsoever on the system. I was unable to connect to it via Ethernet. I had to force it down with the power switch. I can boot into recovery mode. I used touch /forcefsck to get a file system check during a reboot. No errors reported. Below is the list of software upgrades applied this morning. --8- [INSTALL, DEPENDENCIES] libxapian22 [UPGRADE] apt 0.7.25.3 - 0.8.0 [UPGRADE] apt-utils 0.7.25.3 - 0.8.0 [UPGRADE] aptitude 0.6.3-3 - 0.6.3-3.1 [UPGRADE] aptitude-doc-en 0.6.3-3 - 0.6.3-3.1 [UPGRADE] firmware-linux-free 2.6.32-20 - 2.6.32-21 [UPGRADE] libept1 1.0.3 - 1.0.3+b1 [UPGRADE] libldap-2.4-2 2.4.17-2.1 - 2.4.23-4 [UPGRADE] libparted0debian1 2.3-1 - 2.3-2 [UPGRADE] libsdl-gfx1.2-4 2.0.20-1 - 2.0.20-1.1 [UPGRADE] linux-base 2.6.32-20 - 2.6.32-21 [UPGRADE] linux-image-2.6.32-5-686 2.6.32-20 - 2.6.32-21 [UPGRADE] python-apt 0.7.96.1 - 0.7.97.1 [UPGRADE] python-gobject 2.21.1-2 - 2.21.4+is.2.21.3-1 [UPGRADE] python-xapian 1.0.20-1 - 1.2.3-3 [UPGRADE] xserver-common 2:1.7.7-3 - 2:1.7.7-4 [UPGRADE] xserver-xephyr 2:1.7.7-3 - 2:1.7.7-4 [UPGRADE] xserver-xorg-core 2:1.7.7-3 - 2:1.7.7-4 --8- I have a very different notebook (Dell Precision M70) that has exactly the same installation history. (I run them side-by-side, relying upon the Panasonic system as an emergency backup if the Dell should fail.) No problems ever running Squeeze on these systems other than some minor issues in the Nouveau driver transition on the Dell system a couple of months ago. I've tried examining dmesg output, /var/log/syslog, /var/log/Xorg.0.log -- but, if there is evidence in there of why this is happening I'm not seeing it. (I'm happy to admit that I've in well over my head on this, though.) From the list of upgraded software I suppose that my problem is either with the linux-image upgrade or with the xserver upgrades. Unfortunately, I have no previous kernels from which to boot the system. It does not have an optical drive, but I can attach one to a USB port and boot another environment if need be. I have a feeling that this isn't a hardware issue, though. Would someone be willing to lead me through troubleshooting? I'd really appreciate it! Not an exact solution, but perhaps you should not run testing as a desktop: http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-choosing.en.html Not meant to be snarky, just trying to say testing is for testing. Now, on to something more helpful: can you boot the machine into a live distro of some sort, to verify that the machine it's self does not have a failure? -- Damon da...@damtek.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1283612859.2458.10.ca...@dam-mobile
Re: Squeeze System Bricked after Software Upgrades 09/04
On 09/04/2010 11:36 AM, Sven Joachim wrote: On 2010-09-04 17:23 +0200, Gilbert Sullivan wrote: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02) 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02) My crystal ball tells me that you've been hit by this change in the kernel: , | linux-2.6 (2.6.32-21) unstable; urgency=high | | [ Ben Hutchings ] | [...] | * [x86] i915: Blacklist i830, i845, i855 for KMS | (Closes: #568207, #582105, #593432, #593507) ` Hi, Sven. Ouch! That's so mean of them! :P So downgrading the kernel would be my first attempt. I'm going to ask a couple of questions because I'm not quite sure how to even research them. The situation right now is that the system isn't connected to a network. I gather that, in order to downgrade the kernel, I've got to manage to connect from a command line interface. Haven't done that before in Linux. I use wicd. I'm supposing it's time to do man ifup and man ifdown. I think I can get through that. However, I've never downgraded a package. From what I can see it looks as though 'dpkg -i package.deb' is used, providing I can find out how to get the appropriate package. I just looked in /var/cache/apt/archives and didn't see the previous image in there. That would be my fault. I used 'aptitude purge ~c'. Doh! I've been blithely doing 'aptitude autoclean' and 'aptitude purge ~c' after each set of upgrades all along. I read that that was a good practice on the Debian users forum. Eh. Maybe not so much. I've been blindly trusting that I would be able to work my way around any new issues that came up with package upgrades. But having my display subsystem blacklisted doesn't seem to be something I can work around. Do you have any specific suggestions as to how I could go about this? Is it time to retire this subnotebook (at least from use with Debian)? I really don't much like the idea of staying locked at an earlier linux-image version due to the possibility of related security issues. (I guess they're rare, but I'd still prefer to be as up-to-date as possible.) Many thanks to you, Gilbert -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c826e1c.5040...@comcast.net
Re: sid: Console problems after starting X
On Sb, 04 sep 10, 09:06:23, Stephen Powell wrote: Nice work, Andrei! Not fair, you did the heavy lifting :) Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: /home/user folder accidentally removed
Thank you very much for your support. I recently installed Debian to my computer to have Linux experince, so it didn't have any important files. As you suggest, I just had a new user folder. Thank you all again. -- Fatih --- On Sat, 9/4/10, Rob Owens row...@ptd.net wrote: From: Rob Owens row...@ptd.net Subject: Re: /home/user folder accidentally removed To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Date: Saturday, September 4, 2010, 4:40 PM On Sat, Sep 04, 2010 at 03:16:42AM -0700, Fatih Tiryakioglu wrote: Hello, I wanted to remove trash folder, but home folder/home/user is gone. There was only one user. I couldn't start any program. When I restarted computer, I couldn't login. How can I recover system. Please help.. As someone else said, don't perform any more writes to the disk. Boot with a live CD, such as Debian Live, Knoppix, or Ubuntu. apt-get install testdisk. Then run a program called photorec. This may be able to find any important files that you deleted. Do some reading of the man pages for photorec before attempting to use it. It's not overly complicated, but if it's very important that you get your files back you'll want to know what you're doing. -Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100904134030.ga14...@aurora.owens.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/281977.50690...@web57706.mail.re3.yahoo.com
Backing up email to a CD
Hi, I asked a question a week or so ago about backing up e-mail. What I meant was that I wanted to back it up to a CD. The responses I got talked about backing it up to an IMAP server. Does anyone know how to back it up to a CD?
Re: Squeeze System Bricked after Software Upgrades 09/04
On 2010-09-04 18:04 +0200, Gilbert Sullivan wrote: I'm going to ask a couple of questions because I'm not quite sure how to even research them. The situation right now is that the system isn't connected to a network. I gather that, in order to downgrade the kernel, I've got to manage to connect from a command line interface. Haven't done that before in Linux. I use wicd. I'm supposing it's time to do man ifup and man ifdown. I think I can get through that. You could also try wicd-curses if that's installed, or use X with the vesa driver. Here's an /etc/X11/xorg.conf for that: --8---cut here---start-8--- Section Device Identifier n Driver vesa EndSection --8---cut here---end---8--- However, I've never downgraded a package. From what I can see it looks as though 'dpkg -i package.deb' is used, providing I can find out how to get the appropriate package. It gets a bit more complicated if the package to be downgraded has tight versioned dependencies forcing you to downgrade other packages, but that is the basic recipe, and it should work in this case. I just looked in /var/cache/apt/archives and didn't see the previous image in there. That would be my fault. I used 'aptitude purge ~c'. Doh! I've been blithely doing 'aptitude autoclean' and 'aptitude purge ~c' after each set of upgrades all along. I read that that was a good practice on the Debian users forum. Eh. Maybe not so much. I've been blindly trusting that I would be able to work my way around any new issues that came up with package upgrades. I run aptitude autoclean every once in a while, but only when I'm reasonably sure there are no major problems with the currently installed packages. But having my display subsystem blacklisted doesn't seem to be something I can work around. Do you have any specific suggestions as to how I could go about this? Is it time to retire this subnotebook (at least from use with Debian)? It is a bit early to say this, but users of Intel 8xx graphics have been hosed for a while due to frequent GPU lockups, and no satisfactory solution has been found so far. I really don't much like the idea of staying locked at an earlier linux-image version due to the possibility of related security issues. (I guess they're rare, but I'd still prefer to be as up-to-date as possible.) The downgraded kernel has a big security hole already (CVE-2010-2240), but as long as you don't have malicious local users there is not too much to worry about. Sven -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/878w3htqbh@turtle.gmx.de
Re: Backing up email to a CD
On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 6:45 PM, Paul Cartwright deb...@pcartwright.comwrote: On Sat September 4 2010, James Stuckey wrote: Hi, I asked a question a week or so ago about backing up e-mail. What I meant was that I wanted to back it up to a CD. The responses I got talked about backing it up to an IMAP server. Does anyone know how to back it up to a CD? you a CD burning program, like brasero or K3B and copy your Mail folder to a CD burn it. Might be a good idea to back up ALL your files if they fit on a CD.. /home/USER, includine . files.. this will get all the good config files like .gconfg, .bashrc... your mail will probably be under a folder like: /home/USER/Maildir or /home/USER/Mail -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux user # 367800 Registered Ubuntu User #12459 Okay, but how do I get the e-mail off the server?
Re: Backing up email to a CD
2010/9/4 James Stuckey jhstuc...@gmail.com: On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 6:45 PM, Paul Cartwright deb...@pcartwright.com wrote: On Sat September 4 2010, James Stuckey wrote: Hi, I asked a question a week or so ago about backing up e-mail. What I meant was that I wanted to back it up to a CD. The responses I got talked about backing it up to an IMAP server. Does anyone know how to back it up to a CD? you a CD burning program, like brasero or K3B and copy your Mail folder to a CD burn it. Might be a good idea to back up ALL your files if they fit on a CD.. /home/USER, includine . files.. this will get all the good config files like .gconfg, .bashrc... your mail will probably be under a folder like: /home/USER/Maildir or /home/USER/Mail -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux user # 367800 Registered Ubuntu User #12459 Okay, but how do I get the e-mail off the server? It depends on server and your accesslevel to that server. If you can access it via ssh, then just copy files over sftp or scp to local machine. If you cannot access server via ssh then just setup local imap server and copy mails it to using imapsync.. -- Eero -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlkti=nbeaek3ogkb0durztfyua8h+gimua0fafp...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Squeeze System Bricked after Software Upgrades 09/04
On 09/04/2010 12:40 PM, Sven Joachim wrote: You could also try wicd-curses if that's installed, or use X with the vesa driver. Here's an /etc/X11/xorg.conf for that: --8---cut here---start-8--- Section Device Identifier n Driver vesa EndSection --8---cut here---end---8--- Thanks, Sven! I got the Panasonic system connected using ifup, grabbed the 2.6.32-20 linux-image from the snapshot server, and transferred it from the Dell notebook to the Panasonic notebook over the network. However, just as I was about to roll up my sleeves and really start messing the system up I got your response. I hadn't even thought about reverting to vesa using /etc/X11/xorg.conf. I decided to experiment. The system seems to make an abortive attempt at loading gdm with a different login background from the one I have designated, and then it succeeds! I'm able to boot using the new kernel! Is there any reason why I shouldn't just continue this way (using vesa)? I can see that the system is slightly slower than it was, but it honestly isn't enough to bother me. I use these systems strictly for office applications, e-mail, remote access to other systems, and Web browsing. Obviously with no proprietary stuff installed I don't use them for watching movies or playing games online or anything like that. It gets a bit more complicated if the package to be downgraded has tight versioned dependencies forcing you to downgrade other packages, but that is the basic recipe, and it should work in this case. I'll remember that if I decide to proceed with the kernel downgrade. I run aptitude autoclean every once in a while, but only when I'm reasonably sure there are no major problems with the currently installed packages. Maybe I'll be a little more circumspect about going all the way with upgrades from now on. ;-) But having my display subsystem blacklisted doesn't seem to be something I can work around. Do you have any specific suggestions as to how I could go about this? Is it time to retire this subnotebook (at least from use with Debian)? It is a bit early to say this, but users of Intel 8xx graphics have been hosed for a while due to frequent GPU lockups, and no satisfactory solution has been found so far. Yes. This is where I've really been pretty boneheaded. You see, I've seen Intel 8xx graphics users complaining bitterly for quite a while now, but I've never had the least bit of trouble with this system, and it gets used for many hours every day. I imagine I just don't use applications that tend to give rise to GPU lockups, but I'm running Xfce with all of the desktop compositing bells and whistles enabled. Anyway, I've just been shrugging my shoulders and figuring that maybe there was something special about this Panasonic's particular implementation of the graphics hardware that wasn't subject to the problems people were seeing. It didn't occur to me that my display subsystem might get blacklisted at some point. The downgraded kernel has a big security hole already (CVE-2010-2240), but as long as you don't have malicious local users there is not too much to worry about. This is a single-user system, and I'm usually not malicious -- well, not intentionally anyway. As we've seen, sometimes stupidity can accomplish what one might ordinarily be tempted to attribute to malice. :-D I'm thinking I should just forge ahead using the vesa driver and keeping up with the updates. Do you think that's a tenable approach? I really appreciate your help, Sven. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c828277.5030...@comcast.net
Re: Squeeze System Bricked after Software Upgrades 09/04
On 09/04/2010 11:07 AM, Damon L. Chesser wrote: Now, on to something more helpful: can you boot the machine into a live distro of some sort, to verify that the machine it's self does not have a failure? Hi, Damon. Just wanted to get back to you. The hardware is okay. Sven reminded me that I could use the vesa driver. (I had got used to not having an /etc/X11/xorg.conf file any more.) The system is working great now. I appreciate your help. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c828443.9010...@comcast.net
Re: Squeeze System Bricked after Software Upgrades 09/04
On Sat, 2010-09-04 at 13:31 -0400, Gilbert Sullivan wrote: On 09/04/2010 12:40 PM, Sven Joachim wrote: You could also try wicd-curses if that's installed, or use X with the vesa driver. Here's an /etc/X11/xorg.conf for that: --8---cut here---start-8--- Section Device Identifier n Driver vesa EndSection --8---cut here---end---8--- Thanks, Sven! I got the Panasonic system connected using ifup, grabbed the 2.6.32-20 linux-image from the snapshot server, and transferred it from the Dell notebook to the Panasonic notebook over the network. However, just as I was about to roll up my sleeves and really start messing the system up I got your response. I hadn't even thought about reverting to vesa using /etc/X11/xorg.conf. I decided to experiment. The system seems to make an abortive attempt at loading gdm with a different login background from the one I have designated, and then it succeeds! I'm able to boot using the new kernel! Is there any reason why I shouldn't just continue this way (using vesa)? I can see that the system is slightly slower than it was, but it honestly isn't enough to bother me. I use these systems strictly for office applications, e-mail, remote access to other systems, and Web browsing. Obviously with no proprietary stuff installed I don't use them for watching movies or playing games online or anything like that. It gets a bit more complicated if the package to be downgraded has tight versioned dependencies forcing you to downgrade other packages, but that is the basic recipe, and it should work in this case. I'll remember that if I decide to proceed with the kernel downgrade. I run aptitude autoclean every once in a while, but only when I'm reasonably sure there are no major problems with the currently installed packages. Maybe I'll be a little more circumspect about going all the way with upgrades from now on. Install apt-listbugs. That way before the packages installs, you will get a list of reported bugs against that package and you can decide if you want to continue or not. ;-) But having my display subsystem blacklisted doesn't seem to be something I can work around. Do you have any specific suggestions as to how I could go about this? Is it time to retire this subnotebook (at least from use with Debian)? It is a bit early to say this, but users of Intel 8xx graphics have been hosed for a while due to frequent GPU lockups, and no satisfactory solution has been found so far. Yes. This is where I've really been pretty boneheaded. You see, I've seen Intel 8xx graphics users complaining bitterly for quite a while now, but I've never had the least bit of trouble with this system, and it gets used for many hours every day. I imagine I just don't use applications that tend to give rise to GPU lockups, but I'm running Xfce with all of the desktop compositing bells and whistles enabled. Anyway, I've just been shrugging my shoulders and figuring that maybe there was something special about this Panasonic's particular implementation of the graphics hardware that wasn't subject to the problems people were seeing. It didn't occur to me that my display subsystem might get blacklisted at some point. The downgraded kernel has a big security hole already (CVE-2010-2240), but as long as you don't have malicious local users there is not too much to worry about. This is a single-user system, and I'm usually not malicious -- well, not intentionally anyway. As we've seen, sometimes stupidity can accomplish what one might ordinarily be tempted to attribute to malice. :-D I'm thinking I should just forge ahead using the vesa driver and keeping up with the updates. Do you think that's a tenable approach? I really appreciate your help, Sven. -- Damon da...@damtek.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1283622259.16031.12.ca...@dam-main.hsd1.ga.comcast.net.
Re: Squeeze System Bricked after Software Upgrades 09/04
On 09/04/2010 11:05 AM, Alex Kuklin wrote: 1) show a)`uname -a` output b) `lspci` output there are chances that the problem resides in new xorg drivers/code. Next steps depend on you particular video card model. Hi, Alex. The information you had me get via the 'uname -a' and 'lspci' commands provided the key. Sven saw it and pointed out the fact that the new kernel blacklists my video subsystem with kernel mode setting. Sven then reminded me that I could use the vesa video driver by using a simple /etc/X11/xorg.conf file. I've got the little computer up and running now, albeit a little more slowly that it used to run. Many thanks for starting me down the right path. Regards, Gilbert -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c828541.80...@comcast.net
Re: Squeeze System Bricked after Software Upgrades 09/04
On 2010-09-04 19:31 +0200, Gilbert Sullivan wrote: However, just as I was about to roll up my sleeves and really start messing the system up I got your response. I hadn't even thought about reverting to vesa using /etc/X11/xorg.conf. I decided to experiment. The system seems to make an abortive attempt at loading gdm with a different login background from the one I have designated, and then it succeeds! I'm able to boot using the new kernel! Is there any reason why I shouldn't just continue this way (using vesa)? Well, if the disadvantages of vesa do not bother you. It's slow and may not support your display's native resolution, but it works for basic 2D. I can see that the system is slightly slower than it was, but it honestly isn't enough to bother me. I use these systems strictly for office applications, e-mail, remote access to other systems, and Web browsing. Obviously with no proprietary stuff installed I don't use them for watching movies or playing games online or anything like that. That's good, when I last had to use the vesa driver and watched a DVD movie, I got warnings about dropped frames. Well, that was six years ago. I'm thinking I should just forge ahead using the vesa driver and keeping up with the updates. Do you think that's a tenable approach? Just watch out for future kernels that may re-enable KMS, the vesa driver is not compatible with that. You will have to switch back to intel (or fbdev) then. Sven -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/871v99tmly@turtle.gmx.de
Re: Disappearing mouse
On Sat, 2010-09-04 at 00:21 -0400, Robert Brockway wrote: On Fri, 3 Sep 2010, John A. Sullivan III wrote: Has anyone experienced this in Debian? Is there a definitive cause and, more importantly, a real solution? Thanks - John I had this with an NVidia chipset (don't recall the exact chipset right now). I had to add a SWCursor option to prevent cursor going invisible from time to time under Lenny. Once it went invisible the X server would need to be restarted to recover it. The cursor was just invisible - it always worked perfectly if only you could guess where it was. This is an example from xorg.conf: Section Device Identifier Configured Video Device Driver Vesa Option SWCursor yes EndSection snip Thanks, I'll give that a try although I'm a bit concerned about the performance overhead since this is a VServer guest and we expect hundreds of them on the same large VServer host - John -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1283623647.9866.3.ca...@denise.theartistscloset.com
Re: Backing up email to a CD
Okay, but how do I get the e-mail off the server? Look at preferences of your email client for Keep messages for this account on this computer (or something similar). In SeaMonkey it is under Mail Settings your email acc. Synchronization Storage Message Synchronizing. -- Bye, Goran Dobosevic Hrvatski: www.dobosevic.com English: www.dobosevic.com/en/ Registered Linux User #503414 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c8290b3.6070...@dobosevic.com
Re: Squeeze System Bricked after Software Upgrades 09/04
On 09/04/2010 01:44 PM, Damon L. Chesser wrote: Install apt-listbugs. That way before the packages installs, you will get a list of reported bugs against that package and you can decide if you want to continue or not. Thank you for the heads-up on that. I actually have apt-listchanges installed and thought that it would have warned me of something like this. Apparently not. Either that, or I don't know how to use it. Regards, Gilbert -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c82962d.1000...@comcast.net
Re: Squeeze System Bricked after Software Upgrades 09/04
On 09/04/2010 02:00 PM, Sven Joachim wrote: Well, if the disadvantages of vesa do not bother you. It's slow and may not support your display's native resolution, but it works for basic 2D. I'm thinking I'll stick with vesa for now. And it does support this display's native resolution of 1024x768. The only slight drawback I have with it right now is that it seems to get a false start on loading the login screen, but then it comes up fine. Everything seems to work! That's good, when I last had to use the vesa driver and watched a DVD movie, I got warnings about dropped frames. Well, that was six years ago. Everything should improve over six years. Well, everything except me, perhaps. Just watch out for future kernels that may re-enable KMS, the vesa driver is not compatible with that. You will have to switch back to intel (or fbdev) then. I understand, I think. And switching back to intel or the framebuffer driver should simply be a matter of eliminating the little /etc/X11/xorg.conf file (or altering what's in it), I suppose. Again, many thanks for your patience and expertise. Your posts are always a source of valuable information. Regards, Gilbert -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c829817.9040...@comcast.net
Re: sid: Console problems after starting X
On Sat, Sep 04, 2010 at 07:04:58PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Sb, 04 sep 10, 09:06:23, Stephen Powell wrote: Nice work, Andrei! Not fair, you did the heavy lifting :) Both deserving of a beer, if not a pizza as well, to be collectible at some future FTF. -j Regards, Andrei -- Joel Roth -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100904190356.gb5...@sprite
Re: Now Lost Boot Dir/2.6.34 Will Not Boot
Using the Debian rescue CD, I installed the linux-image-2.6.32-5 and linux- base from Sid. The install edited my fstab and lilo.conf files for me, putting in the UUID numbers for everything except lilo.conf boot=. I left that as-is /dev/sda but both variations, UUID and ata-ID had previously worked. Too bad the previous install did not fix this up for me. Might have saved a lot of grief, huh? The initrd (needed most, dep failed) needed to go into highest memory with scarey warnings but it worked. After a long bootup with loads of [mesages.] (no untoward warnings or panics, however}, fsck balked but manual runs fixed that. I am now back up and running. Who knows, maybe the 2.6.34 kernel I compiled will run now? Thanks for all the help. Debian folks are the best! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201009042218.40540.d_ba...@012.net.il
Re: sid: Console problems after starting X
Hey, On Sat, 4 Sep 2010 01:20:51 -1000 Joel Roth jo...@pobox.com wrote: Thanks for checking this out! Console *does* VT switching correctly under a stock 2.6.31-1-amd64 kernel. (But for some reason suspend doesn't work... will try a later kernel.) Why didn't I think of this? Probably because the kernel was working before. I think the cause of the problem is that there was just an xorg and kernel update, this may have also updated the ATI driver, and as far i understand it, due to KMS, you have to upgrade the kernel modules in lockstep with the userspace bytes or unhappy things happen, like this. (I have very little experience with ATI and mainline graphics drivers, so I may be wrong! caveat emporium!) Mahalo Joel Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic If you still want to build your own kernel, build it off the updated debian src, or build the kernel modules into there own package. Or if you want to use a newer mainline, think about building the ati driver as well ;) -- Regards, Angus Hedger Debian GNU/Linux User PGP Public Key 0xEE6A4B97 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Badly Formatted Emails
I apologize for them. The provider's web-based mailer only supports Windows (cr/lf) and therefore, anything done in anything else, well, you've seen the results. I complained but they have no intention of fixing it. Anyway, now up and running and back in kmail so future postings should be readable. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201009042243.37342.d_ba...@012.net.il
Cannot print from Adobe Acrobat
Hello list I seem to have lost the ability to print from Adobe Acrobat using Debian Testing. OOo prints just fine as do other applications, but for some reason Adobe doesn't want to play nicely with CUPS. Can anyone offer me a way of debugging this and resolving the situation please? The Adobe in question is 9.3.1. Thanks for any assistance. AG -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c82a49f.6020...@gmail.com
Initramfs help
Computer suddenly dropped into initramfm after power loss, help getting back into file system would be helpful, and appreciated, stuck doing email from my phone thanks in advance, hopefully the basic steps will b all i need -- Sent from ATT's Wireless network using Mobile Email -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/966008.67846...@smtp109-mob.biz.mail.gq1.yahoo.com
Re: sid: Console problems after starting X
On Sat, Sep 04, 2010 at 08:37:55PM +0100, Angus Hedger wrote: Hey, On Sat, 4 Sep 2010 01:20:51 -1000 Joel Roth jo...@pobox.com wrote: Thanks for checking this out! Console *does* VT switching correctly under a stock 2.6.31-1-amd64 kernel. (But for some reason suspend doesn't work... will try a later kernel.) Why didn't I think of this? Probably because the kernel was working before. I think the cause of the problem is that there was just an xorg and kernel update, this may have also updated the ATI driver, and as far i understand it, due to KMS, you have to upgrade the kernel modules in lockstep with the userspace bytes or unhappy things happen, like this. (I have very little experience with ATI and mainline graphics drivers, so I may be wrong! caveat emporium!) Mahalo There do seem to be some kernel options that needed to be enabled, hence my success using a stock kernel. Thanks! Joel Joel Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic If you still want to build your own kernel, build it off the updated debian src, or build the kernel modules into there own package. Or if you want to use a newer mainline, think about building the ati driver as well ;) -- Regards, Angus Hedger Debian GNU/Linux User PGP Public Key 0xEE6A4B97 -- Joel Roth -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100904210255.ga2...@sprite
Re: Debian based NAS? What to buy?
Angus Hedger: Jochen Schulz m...@well-adjusted.de wrote: I am still just a little bit unsure about wattage. Do I need 180W with an Atom board (D510 + ION or NM10 chipset) + four hard drives and one optical drive? Have a look here [1], I know it doesn’t have the D510, but if you do it for the atom 330 (which uses more power) you should be fine. [1]http://extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp Thanks, that is interesting. It looks like I should definitely get the case with a 180W PSU, not the 120W one. Now I only need to convince myself that spending more than four hundred Euros (case, mobo, RAM, optical drive…) for such a system is a reasonable thing to do. :) J. -- If I could travel through time I would go back to yesterday and apologise. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Now Lost Boot Dir/2.6.34 Will Not Boot
On Sat, 04 Sep 2010 15:18:40 -0400 (EDT), David Baron wrote: Using the Debian rescue CD, I installed the linux-image-2.6.32-5 and linux- base from Sid. The install edited my fstab and lilo.conf files for me, putting in the UUID numbers for everything except lilo.conf boot=. I left that as-is /dev/sda but both variations, UUID and ata-ID had previously worked. Too bad the previous install did not fix this up for me. Might have saved a lot of grief, huh? Yes, that seems to be one weakness of linux-base. (I think that's the package that converts the files.) It doesn't handle the boot record of /etc/lilo.conf properly. I discovered that the hard way a few months ago. And that is why I document the stuff I do in my kernel-building web page. I thought about reporting a bug, but I didn't want to give the movers and shakers at Debian an excuse to pull lilo from the distribution. It isn't lilo's fault, but some people I know are looking for an excuse to pull it. The initrd (needed most, dep failed) needed to go into highest memory with scarey warnings but it worked. MODULES=dep usually works, but only if you don't cross-build your initial RAM file systems. In other words, if you're using MODULES=dep, and you're building an initial RAM file system image for the 2.6.32-5-amd64 kernel, you had better be *running* the 2.6.32-5-amd64 kernel at the time you do the build. If you're running any other kernel, there's a good chance that the right drivers won't be included. Do you have the large-memory option specified in /etc/lilo.conf? If not, you should. This will probably eliminate the warnings. Thanks for all the help. Debian folks are the best! You're welcome. I'm glad I could help. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1554450231.612763.1283637242567.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
Re: Initramfs help
On Sat, 04 Sep 2010 16:58:40 -0400 (EDT), Joseph Lockhart wrote: Computer suddenly dropped into initramfm after power loss, help getting back into file system would be helpful, and appreciated, stuck doing email from my phone thanks in advance, hopefully the basic steps will b all i need I would suggest using the Debian installer in rescue mode, escaping to a shell in the installer environment, and doing an fsck on all your hard disk partitions. Then I would boot the installer again in rescue mode, escape to a shell using the regular root file system mounted as root (chrooted shell) and rerun your boot loader installer, if applicable. (Such as lilo.) If your boot loader installer is grub, you don't need to do this second step. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1140993430.612920.1283637954692.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
re :debian
how do i get rid of it ...i have inherited a machine with debian on it and it is password protectedis there a master password to bypass the program so i can uninstall it ??
Re: re :debian
On Sat, 04 Sep 2010 18:39:13 -0400 (EDT), MÃGÍ© Øne how do i get rid of it ...i have inherited a machine with debian on it and it is password protectedis there a master password to bypass the program so i can uninstall it ?? I'm not sure what you mean by password protected. Debian, like all distributions of GNU/Linux, requires you to login first with a userid and a password. You can't just boot it up and start using it. But what you're saying sounds like the machine may have a password set in the BIOS. This has nothing to do with Debian, per se. If this is the case, consult your hardware documentation for how to remove a BIOS password that you do not know. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1783914346.613794.1283641503216.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
Re: re :debian
On 9/4/2010 5:39 PM, MÃGÍ© Øne wrote: how do i get rid of it ...i have inherited a machine with debian on it and it is password protectedis there a master password to bypass the program so i can uninstall it ?? Boot off a CD/DVD, or if the CMOS is locked, open the machine, find the right pins, and short them to reset the CMOS. (Or remove the battery and wait five minutes. The battery could probably stand to be replaced anyway.) Then boot off of a CD. If you reset the CMOS, be sure to remember to configure the hardware before trying to boot. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c82d18a.3060...@allums.com
Re: Cannot print from Adobe Acrobat
On Sat, 2010-09-04 at 20:57 +0100, AG wrote: Hello list I seem to have lost the ability to print from Adobe Acrobat using Debian Testing. OOo prints just fine as do other applications, but for some reason Adobe doesn't want to play nicely with CUPS. Can anyone offer me a way of debugging this and resolving the situation please? The Adobe in question is 9.3.1. Thanks for any assistance. AG We had the exact same problem. Acrobat Reader would not even see the CUPS printers until 9.3.1 but it could not use them properly. That didn't happen until 9.3.2. An upgrade should do the trick for you. I believe the debian-multimedia testing repository is up to 9.3.4. The other major problem we are having with Acrobat Reader is that it insists on saving all files with permissions of 0600. If you have shared file areas where the GID bit is set so group members can share files (we do and set the umask to 007), Acrobat Reader steps all over this and only the creator can use the file unless the permissions are manually changed :-( -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1283643588.9866.7.ca...@denise.theartistscloset.com
Re: What's the Debian way of disabling suspend to disk?
On Fri, 3 Sep 2010 22:06:33 -0300 Henrique de Moraes Holschuh h...@debian.org wrote: On Fri, 03 Sep 2010, Celejar wrote: On Thu, 2 Sep 2010 14:32:03 -0300 Henrique de Moraes Holschuh h...@debian.org wrote: ... That said, I don't trust hybernation. Your data is much safer in the long run if you restrain yourself to suspend-to-RAM and shutdowns. Can you elaborate on this? I have certainly experienced my share of Yes. Suspend-to-disk on Linux x86/amd64 depends on fragile operations, and worse, it requires that the hibernation core and some of the more fiendishly complex kernel subsystems never disagree at all on the details. That can easily result in silent, hard-to-track data corruption when code changes. When you're very lucky, it hoses the kernel or the filesystem metadata in a way which can be easily noticed by some kernel assertion, resulting in an OOPS or warnings. If you're unlucky, it can slowly rot away your filesystem or the data inside it. Restoring from an hibernation image also does nasty things to the ACPI firmware. But at least any problems there are much more likely to cause the box to fail to resume entirely, instead of truly evil stuff like silent filesystem or application memory space corruption. Thanks for the explanation. I use hibernation pretty heavily, and I've never really noticed such problems, but OTOH, I have had my share of system crashes and other such failures, which I've always just chalked up to living on the bleeding edge (Sid, plus git kernels from upstream), but who knows ... or do you mean the much more serious problem of the hibernation image becoming corrupted and the system not realizing this? I though that It is not the hibernation image getting corrupted. It is running system state getting corrupted due to bad interaction between parts of the kernel, or outright kernel bugs. Suspend-to-RAM is much easier to get right (and *keep* right), and far less fragile. I'd love to use s2ram, but I've never gotten it to work on this machine, even with a great deal of time and effort. Celejar -- foffl.sourceforge.net - Feeds OFFLine, an offline RSS/Atom aggregator mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100904213355.063d9da7.cele...@gmail.com
gnome mounts all fstab entries
Hi, I don't know its old behaviour but I just noticed that if gnome is started, then all my mount points defined in fstab are mounted, despite that the mount points are defined as noauto. Anyway that I can disable it? thanks -- Tong (remove underscore(s) to reply) http://xpt.sourceforge.net/techdocs/ http://xpt.sourceforge.net/tools/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/i5usj6$u5...@dough.gmane.org
iomega 2TB external USB drive
I just picked up an Iomega 2TB external USB drive. It is formatted NTSF. When plugged into my Win7 pc it is seen however it does not show up on screen under Debian (lenny). Is this drive supported? How can I get it seen by debian? John -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c82fecc.5030...@sentex.net
Re: Debian based NAS? What to buy?
Francisco Borges wrote: I am thinking about buying a new NAS box. Not a DIY box, but a ready to use NAS (2 to max 4 trays) for home use (it has to be *small* and quiet). I'm looking for one of those too. I will probably go with the QNAP TS-219P because of its relatively small size and low power consumption which is 5W in sleep and 21W in operation. It does have one fan. Sound level is specified at 36.3 dB in operation. There was a thread on Debian-ARM about installation so it will run Debian. I was impressed with the number of features that the QNAP products had. It comes with embedded Linux and is expandable with their QPKG Software Package Platform. I haven't owned a QNAP product before. Any comments from those of you that do? --Jeff -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c830235.8000...@windpumps.ca
Can start X once but no more
Hi, Following up with http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.user/389399 I have exactly the same symptom: I can start X once. After killing or quitting it once, it won't start again. I've posted my /var/log/Xorg.0.log to http://paste.debian.net/87848/ (got rejected several time due it is over size). Seems to me there is nothing special to pay attention to [1]. Anyone can help with my case? $ uname -rm 2.6.33-grml64 x86_64 Thanks [1] $ grep -1 '(EE)' /var/log/Xorg.0.log (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: /var/log/Xorg.0.log, Time: Sat Aug 14 13:41:37 2010 -- ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 6.0 (EE) open /dev/fb0: No such file or directory (II) Loading sub module int10 $ grep -1 '\(WW\)' /var/log/Xorg.0.log (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: /var/log/Xorg.0.log, Time: Sat Aug 14 13:41:37 2010 -- (==) Automatically enabling devices (WW) The directory /usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic does not exist. Entry deleted from font path. (WW) The directory /usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/ does not exist. Entry deleted from font path. (WW) The directory /usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi does not exist. Entry deleted from font path. (WW) The directory /usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic does not exist. Entry deleted from font path. (WW) The directory /usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/ does not exist. Entry deleted from font path. (WW) The directory /usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi does not exist. Entry deleted from font path. -- (--) NV: Found NVIDIA GeForce 6150SE at 0...@00:0d:0 (WW) Falling back to old probe method for vesa (WW) Falling back to old probe method for fbdev (II) Loading sub module fbdevhw -- Tong (remove underscore(s) to reply) http://xpt.sourceforge.net/techdocs/ http://xpt.sourceforge.net/tools/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/i5v0mg$9q...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Cannot print from Adobe Acrobat
You should also probably consider an alternative to Acrobat for PDF, since Adobe seems to have at least one security alert per week. My wife's computer (running lenny) had acrobat installed and she had the same problem...I uninstalled acrobat and she was able to open it in kpdf and print just fine. --b On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 3:57 PM, AG computing.acco...@googlemail.com wrote: Hello list I seem to have lost the ability to print from Adobe Acrobat using Debian Testing. OOo prints just fine as do other applications, but for some reason Adobe doesn't want to play nicely with CUPS. Can anyone offer me a way of debugging this and resolving the situation please? The Adobe in question is 9.3.1. Thanks for any assistance. AG -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c82a49f.6020...@gmail.com
Re: RAID Questions
Hi, Miles: On Friday 09 July 2010 22:10:46 Miles Fidelman wrote: Tom H wrote: On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 8:15 PM, Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote: shell grub-install hd0 shell grub-install hd1 With these grub-install invocations, you will not be able to boot in degraded mode. You have to set both sda and sdb to hd0 but you cannot do that in device.map. You have to use the grub shell: I'm pretty sure you're wrong on this - at least it's worked for me in the past. You DON'T have to set both sda and sdb to hd0 hd0 is the first disk seen by the BIOS. If your first disk fails badly your second disk will become hd0. If you don't set up grub on the second disk to think that it is the first disk you won't be able to boot up (it'll try to find hd1 to load the system from it and it won't find it). I'm pretty sure that things will break badly if grub things that both disks are hd0. Probably, but grub doesn't think that both disks are hd0 but you will have grub installed on the boot sectors of two different disks. When you boot up your BIOS will load grub's first stage from only one of the disks, the first one on normal conditions, or the second one when the first fails, but then the second one will become the first and only! (so it will be hd0 under such conditions). Note that this won't cover the case when the first disk is broken but not broken enough, so it's still detected by the BIOS: in this case only real hardware RAID will allow you to boot without previous mangling. Cheers. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201009050523.30592.jesus.nava...@undominio.net
Re: iomega 2TB external USB drive
On Sat, 04 Sep 2010 22:22:04 -0400 John Lindsay jcl...@sentex.net wrote: I just picked up an Iomega 2TB external USB drive. It is formatted NTSF. When plugged into my Win7 pc it is seen however it does not show up on screen under Debian (lenny). Is this drive supported? How can I get it seen by debian? You need to explain what you mean by show up on screen. What does dmesg / syslog say? Celejar -- foffl.sourceforge.net - Feeds OFFLine, an offline RSS/Atom aggregator mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100904232529.6eb35af5.cele...@gmail.com
Re (3): Configuration for a Linux router with a client having a public address
From: Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com Date: Fri, 03 Sep 2010 23:45:50 -0600 ... carnot is already on the public internet with 142.103.107.138? OK, we've discussed two distinct configurations and that wasn't clear. Friday I reinstated the old configuration and checked just now that carnot is still running. Click here == http://142.103.107.138/ . If you don't get the home page, the most likely explanation is disk drive failure. I thought that you had it on a private network and were trying to tunnel it onto the public internet. That was the recent investigative configuration. In the old configuration, http://142.103.107.138/ connected through the AT 3612TR was accessible to the public from 2002 until a few months ago. I shut it down a few months back because the disk drives were failing. Powered it up again Friday, but a drive might fail any time. For years I've had a private network with Dalton routing connectivity to Cantor. My objective in the past week was to consider whether the AT 3612TR can be eliminated with routing through Dalton. The private subnet to Carnot is incidental to my study of how the objective might be reached. And of course carnot isn't on the diagram so I feel I am just missing the mark here. Carnot and the AT 3612TR being absent from the diagram is a bad deficiency. I'll add them on Tuesday or Wednesday when back at work. The AT 3612TR is between dalton and the Internet. Carnot is connected to the AT 3612TR beside Dalton. What is carnot's first card's address and which wire is it hooked to? It has only one interface. In the old configuration the address is 142.103.107.138 and it is connected to the AT 3612TR. If carnot is already on 142.103.107.138 then why does it need a private address ... The primary objective is find whether the AT 3612TR can be eliminated by routing through dalton. The private subnet to Carnot was part of my study of whether and how this objective might be reached. Typically, a Linux router has private subnets. ... and what looks like an openvpn point to point link between it [carnot] and dalton? As you said a little earlier, carnot is not on the diagram. The tunnel is between dalton and joule and has no relevance to my present objective. The scanned image from a penciled sketch isn't good but zooming bigger will help. In iceweasel left click. No wire? Then why have it [second Ethernet adapter]? In the previous message I asked whether and how carnot could have two addresses. A second interface seems an obvious possibility. Simply add the other address. ... up ip addr add 192.168.1.100/24 brd 192.168.1.255 dev eth0 label eth0:0 ... That's easy but not obvious; thanks! I'd guess it's documented or described somewhere but not in interfaces.man. ... It enables two different subnets to co-exist on the same wire. ... That idea helps. I thought of another question, probably more directly relevant to my objective. Will post it with subject Linux hub. Thanks, ... Peter E. -- VoIP 7785886232 is gone. Please use 13604502132. Shop pages http://carnot.yi.org/ accessible as long as the old drives survive; installation of netbsd on new drives pending. Personal pages, http://members.shaw.ca/peasthope/ . -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/171056612.87856.784...@heaviside.invalid
Linux hub
Does anyone know of documentation for a Linux hub or a Linux switch? The simplest example I can think of is a system with a gateway interface transmitting packets for multiple addresses and subordinate interfaces transmitting packets for one or all addresses except for the address of the machine itself. Thanks, ... Peter E. -- VoIP 7785886232 is gone. Please use 13604502132. Shop pages http://carnot.yi.org/ accessible as long as the old drives survive; installation of netbsd on new drives pending. Personal pages, http://members.shaw.ca/peasthope/ . -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/171056612.89104.784...@heaviside.invalid
Re: iomega 2TB external USB drive
On Saturday 04 September 2010 21:22:04 John Lindsay wrote: I just picked up an Iomega 2TB external USB drive. It is formatted NTSF. When plugged into my Win7 pc it is seen however it does not show up on screen under Debian (lenny). Is this drive supported? How can I get it seen by debian? Make sure you install ntfs-3g -- the basic NTFS driver in the kernel does not have high-quality write support. If you want a pop-up notification when you plug the drive in, (and possibly auto-mounting) make sure you choose a feature-complete desktop environment like Gnome or KDE SC. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. b...@iguanasuicide.net ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.net/\_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.