Re: Squeeze. What is current hibernation mechanism ==> pm-utils

[Sven Joachim]

On 2010-09-24 03:32 +0200, T o n g wrote:

> So, the Debian-recommended way is (still) "pm-utils". I saw that pm-utils 
> depends on HAL, and thinking that the HAL will soon be the thing in the 
> past,

Huh?  AFAIK, pm-utils never depended on HAL; it used to recommend it,
but it does not do this anymore.

> so I went for the other route: hibernate with kernel patch, then 
> hibernate with uwusup. They all turned out to be dead ends. 

You should give pm-hibernate another try.

> What is not working for me? Anything & everything:
>
> - suspend
> - hibernation
> - lid close
> - power button to turn off computer

Have you tried a kernel from experimental yet?  And please make sure
that the acpi-support package is installed.

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Re: iceweasel seg faults when closing tabs

[Scott Ferguson]

On 24/09/10 15:39, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> In <20100923212652.3496e...@windy.deldotd.com>, bri...@aracnet.com wrote:
>> On Thu, 23 Sep 2010 20:45:37 -0700
>>  wrote:
>>> Gdk-WARNING **: XID collision, trouble ahead
>>
>> doh!  strong evidence that it's the flash plugin.  damn, I really
>> should take my own advice.
>>
>> oh, how I hate flash.
> 
> Uninstall Adobe Flash, clear all your cookies, install Gnash and its Mozilla 
> plugin, and try it out.  It's relatively painless to move back if it doesn't 
> suit your needs.[1]  Gnash in testing is supposed to have 100% of YouTube.com 
> videos working, and some other sites use similar enough video embedding that 
> they work as well.
> 
> If it doesn't work in Gnash, I simply do without it.  But, even if your 
> desire 
> for flash contest exceeds your dedication to Free Software, it is worth a 
> try.  
> I imagine the Gnash maintainers are actually more interested resolving issues 
> on Debian (and other Free OSes) than Adobe.
> 
> [1] Just reverse the process -- uninstall Gnash, clear your cookies, 
> reinstall 
> Adobe Flash.

...and if it's just youtube you're interested in - they are trialling
HTML5 (lash-free).

Gnash - written by a bloke that wears an Akubra - so it must be good!
(apropos of nought).

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Re: lilo config is busted, need help fixing it

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In <4c9c2ca9.3020...@hardwarefreak.com>, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
>bri...@aracnet.com put forth on 9/23/2010 11:25 PM:
>>> No, that's normal.  What had you changed on the system immediately
>>> prior to this boot problem occurring?
>> 
>> apt-get dist-upgrade, natch.
>
>WTF is "natch"?

Shortening of "naturally", which in this context is slang for "of course" or 
"as expected".
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Re: iceweasel seg faults when closing tabs

[Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.]

In <20100923212652.3496e...@windy.deldotd.com>, bri...@aracnet.com wrote:
>On Thu, 23 Sep 2010 20:45:37 -0700
> wrote:
>> Gdk-WARNING **: XID collision, trouble ahead
>
>doh!  strong evidence that it's the flash plugin.  damn, I really
>should take my own advice.
>
>oh, how I hate flash.

Uninstall Adobe Flash, clear all your cookies, install Gnash and its Mozilla 
plugin, and try it out.  It's relatively painless to move back if it doesn't 
suit your needs.[1]  Gnash in testing is supposed to have 100% of YouTube.com 
videos working, and some other sites use similar enough video embedding that 
they work as well.

If it doesn't work in Gnash, I simply do without it.  But, even if your desire 
for flash contest exceeds your dedication to Free Software, it is worth a try.  
I imagine the Gnash maintainers are actually more interested resolving issues 
on Debian (and other Free OSes) than Adobe.

[1] Just reverse the process -- uninstall Gnash, clear your cookies, reinstall 
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Re: lilo config is busted, need help fixing it

[Stan Hoeppner]

bri...@aracnet.com put forth on 9/23/2010 11:25 PM:

>> No, that's normal.  What had you changed on the system immediately
>> prior to this boot problem occurring?
> 
> apt-get dist-upgrade, natch.

WTF is "natch"?

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Re: lilo config is busted, need help fixing it

[briand]

On Thu, 23 Sep 2010 21:25:56 -0700
 wrote:


> aaargh.  I've never had so much trouble in my entire
> linux/debian/life.  I have had a smooth boot or bootloader upgrade on
> this computer since I fired it up.  other one works good, though. but
> really, 1/2 _is_ bad.

I have NOT had a smooth, etc...

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Re: iceweasel seg faults when closing tabs

[briand]

On Thu, 23 Sep 2010 20:45:37 -0700
 wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I reported this a while back, and no one seemed to be experiencing
> it.
> 
> I wasn't exactly sure it was a segfault, but I figured it out tonight,
> and it definitely is seg-faulting.  It doesn't take too long, just
> keep opening tabs, close them, and eventually it dies.
> 
> It's been doing this for a while and through several apt-get upgrades.
> 
> So I am wondering again: has anyone else seen this behavior ?
> 
> Brian
> 
> p.s. there is also the ever popular:
> 
> Gdk-WARNING **: XID collision, trouble ahead
> 
> any chance this has something to do with it ?
> 
> 

doh!  strong evidence that it's the flash plugin.  damn, I really
should take my own advice.

oh, how I hate flash.

Brian


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Re: lilo config is busted, need help fixing it

[briand]

On Thu, 23 Sep 2010 23:20:45 -0500
Stan Hoeppner  wrote:

> bri...@aracnet.com put forth on 9/23/2010 10:50 PM:
> 
> > Boot image: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-5-amd64
> > Device 0x0802: BIOS drive 0x80, 255 heads, 30515 cylinders,
> >63 sectors. Partition offset: 120583890 sectors.
> > Using Volume ID 5879D4A8 on bios 80
> > Setup length is 27 sectors.
> > Mapped 4708 sectors.
> > Mapping RAM disk /boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-5-amd64
> > Device 0x0802: BIOS drive 0x80, 255 heads, 30515 cylinders,
> >63 sectors. Partition offset: 120583890 sectors.
> > Using Volume ID 5879D4A8 on bios 80
> > RAM disk: 9407 sectors.
> > Added Lin_2.6.32img5
> > 
> > "ro root=802"
> > 
> > I immediately noticed that dev=0xe0
> 
> > shouldn't dev=0x82 !!??
> 
> No, that's normal.  What had you changed on the system immediately
> prior to this boot problem occurring?

apt-get dist-upgrade, natch.

it's very odd, because it runs just fine. and it boots fine as long as
I supply the root=/dev/sda2 

aaargh.  I've never had so much trouble in my entire
linux/debian/life.  I have had a smooth boot or bootloader upgrade on
this computer since I fired it up.  other one works good, though. but
really, 1/2 _is_ bad.


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Re: lilo config is busted, need help fixing it

[Stan Hoeppner]

bri...@aracnet.com put forth on 9/23/2010 10:50 PM:

> Boot image: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-5-amd64
> Device 0x0802: BIOS drive 0x80, 255 heads, 30515 cylinders,
>63 sectors. Partition offset: 120583890 sectors.
> Using Volume ID 5879D4A8 on bios 80
> Setup length is 27 sectors.
> Mapped 4708 sectors.
> Mapping RAM disk /boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-5-amd64
> Device 0x0802: BIOS drive 0x80, 255 heads, 30515 cylinders,
>63 sectors. Partition offset: 120583890 sectors.
> Using Volume ID 5879D4A8 on bios 80
> RAM disk: 9407 sectors.
> Added Lin_2.6.32img5
> 
> "ro root=802"
> 
> I immediately noticed that dev=0xe0

> shouldn't dev=0x82 !!??

No, that's normal.  What had you changed on the system immediately prior
to this boot problem occurring?

Boot image: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.34.1
Device 0x0801: BIOS drive 0x80, 16 heads, 969021 cylinders,
   63 sectors. Partition offset: 63 sectors.
Using Volume ID 37945249 on bios 80
Setup length is 23 sectors.
Mapped 2909 sectors.
Added Linux (alias 1) *

"ro root=802"

Boot image: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32.9
Device 0x0801: BIOS drive 0x80, 16 heads, 969021 cylinders,
   63 sectors. Partition offset: 63 sectors.
Using Volume ID 37945249 on bios 80
Setup length is 23 sectors.
Mapped 2879 sectors.
Added LinuxOLD (alias 2)

"ro root=802"

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iceweasel seg faults when closing tabs

[briand]

Hi,

I reported this a while back, and no one seemed to be experiencing
it.

I wasn't exactly sure it was a segfault, but I figured it out tonight,
and it definitely is seg-faulting.  It doesn't take too long, just keep
opening tabs, close them, and eventually it dies.

It's been doing this for a while and through several apt-get upgrades.

So I am wondering again: has anyone else seen this behavior ?

Brian

p.s. there is also the ever popular:

Gdk-WARNING **: XID collision, trouble ahead

any chance this has something to do with it ?


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lilo config is busted, need help fixing it

[briand]

On boot lilo does not find the root device.  I can use root=/dev/sda2
at the lilo boot prompt and it will boot correctly.  So clearly it's
pointing at the incorrect root device.  I've double checked the
lilo.conf file and it says:

boot=/dev/sda

root=/dev/sda2

which is correct.  the lilo command runs without warnings or errors.

I ran lilo -v 3 -t and it produced the following:

Boot image: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-5-amd64
Device 0x0802: BIOS drive 0x80, 255 heads, 30515 cylinders,
   63 sectors. Partition offset: 120583890 sectors.
Using Volume ID 5879D4A8 on bios 80
Setup length is 27 sectors.
Mapped 4708 sectors.
Mapping RAM disk /boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-5-amd64
Device 0x0802: BIOS drive 0x80, 255 heads, 30515 cylinders,
   63 sectors. Partition offset: 120583890 sectors.
Using Volume ID 5879D4A8 on bios 80
RAM disk: 9407 sectors.
Added Lin_2.6.32img5

"ro root=802"

I immediately noticed that dev=0xe0

brw-rw 1 root disk 8, 0 Sep 23 20:45 /dev/sda
brw-rw 1 root disk 8, 1 Sep 13 05:17 /dev/sda1
brw-rw 1 root disk 8, 2 Sep 13 05:20 /dev/sda2
brw-rw 1 root disk 8, 3 Sep 13 05:22 /dev/sda3
brw-rw 1 root disk 8, 4 Sep 13 05:17 /dev/sda4

shouldn't dev=0x82 !!??

Anybody know how I can fix this ?

Thanks,

Brian


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Re: What is blocking my sound?

[Felipe Sateler]

On 23/09/10 21:11, Marc Shapiro wrote:
> I am running Lenny, with alsa and udev.  Frequently then sound on my
> system just stops working.  When it does, I run the following command to
> check if the sound device is in use, or there is some other cause:
> 
> 'aoss play ~/public_html/footpain/media/montoya.wav
> 
> Usually, as the following output shows, the device cab not be opened:
> 
> ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:996:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave
> play soxio: Can't open output file `default': cannot open audio
> device
> 
> Usually the fix is to close all instances of Firefox until I find the
> culprit, and sound returns.  I just killed all running instances of
> firefox and can not think what else could have grabbed the device and
> not released it.  Is there a way to determine what process is using the
> device so that I can kill the appropriate thread instead of using trial
> and error?
> 
> Thanks for any ideas.
> 

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Squeeze. What is current hibernation mechanism ==> pm-utils

[T o n g]

On Thu, 23 Sep 2010 16:11:26 +, Camaleón wrote:

> I would recommend reading [ . . . ]

So, the Debian-recommended way is (still) "pm-utils". I saw that pm-utils 
depends on HAL, and thinking that the HAL will soon be the thing in the 
past, so I went for the other route: hibernate with kernel patch, then 
hibernate with uwusup. They all turned out to be dead ends. 

What is not working for me? Anything & everything:

- suspend
- hibernation
- lid close
- power button to turn off computer
. . .

http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.user/388805

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What is blocking my sound?

[Marc Shapiro]

I am running Lenny, with alsa and udev.  Frequently then sound on my 
system just stops working.  When it does, I run the following command to 
check if the sound device is in use, or there is some other cause:


'aoss play ~/public_html/footpain/media/montoya.wav

Usually, as the following output shows, the device cab not be opened:

ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:996:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave
play soxio: Can't open output file `default': cannot open audio
device

Usually the fix is to close all instances of Firefox until I find the 
culprit, and sound returns.  I just killed all running instances of 
firefox and can not think what else could have grabbed the device and 
not released it.  Is there a way to determine what process is using the 
device so that I can kill the appropriate thread instead of using trial 
and error?


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[Conclusion] tar and --sparse

[T o n g]

Hi, 

Thanks you all for the comments, which make it obligatory for me to 
explain more. First, why I asked:

 $ man tar | grep -i sparse
 -S, --sparse
   handle sparse files efficiently
 --sparse-version=MAJOR[.MINOR]
   set version of the sparse format to use (implies --sparse)

On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 22:59:38 +0200, Sven Joachim wrote:

>> I created a Linux system tar ball without using the --sparse switch.
>> The .tar.bzip2 tar ball is only of 1.5G in size. However, restoring
>> such tar ball into a 10G partition would fail:
>>
>>  Cannot write: No space left on device
>>
>> . . .
> 
> The GNU tar documentation says this about the --sparse option:
> 
>  This option is meaningful only when creating or updating archives.
>  It has no effect on extraction.

I think this explains well. 

IIRC, the source is only around 3G, at most 5G, according to du output. 
But it turns out I need over 15G of space to expand this 1.5G tar ball. 
Sparse files are the reason.

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Re: directly install RH packages using rpm instead of alien

[T o n g]

On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 04:16:55 +, T o n g wrote:

> - There is a complicated installation script (think of being more
> complicated than VMWare), and rpm installation is just one of its single
> line.
> - The only dependencies of the sw is actually JRE, so I'm hope I would
> avoid the infamous RH dependency hell.

JFTA, I would rather not poke into the complicated installation script, 
so I bite the bullet and did the rpm installation...

And it turns out fine. 

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Re: Debian not running in Windoof 7 Virtual PC (in VirtualBox)

[Mark Allums]

On 9/23/2010 9:51 AM, Stephen Powell wrote:

On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 22:49:42 -0400 (EDT), Scott Ferguson wrote:

On 23/09/10 06:14, Stephen Powell wrote:

On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 15:29:59 -0400 (EDT), Mark Allums wrote:


I am probably way late on this one, but that maneuver is a nonstarter.
Nested Virtualization is very difficult and kind of pointless.  A few
security researchers[0] have done it, mostly as a stunt to prove a
technical point, but it is very unstable.  You *can* run DOSbox in a VM,
but generally the question is, why would you?


That may be true for some virtualization software, but not for all.
My "day job" is as a system programmer for IBM mainframe systems,
and among my duties is responsibility for a z/VM system.  In z/VM,
nested virtualization is not difficult, pointless, or unstable.  I routinely
install a new release of z/VM in a virtual machine running under
the production release of z/VM, for example.  There's even instructions
in IBM's installation manuals for how to do this.

z/VM is probably the most robust virtualization platform available
anywhere, having been developed, tweaked, and honed by IBM since 1967.
But it has two distict disadvantages: (1) it is proprietary, for-charge
software and (2) it only runs on IBM mainframes.


I suspect you're quoting Joanna and crediting Mark there...


No.  This was a reply to

http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2010/09/msg01676.html

which was posted by Mark Allums.  No-one named Joanna has posted to this
thread.  The name Joanna was referenced only in a footnote in Mark's post.




Who said what not important.  It's just an opinion. (My opinion.)  I 
would be ecstatic to be proved wrong.





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Re: Squeeze. What is current hibernation mechanism?

[Kelly Clowers]

On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 09:11, Camaleón  wrote:
> On Thu, 23 Sep 2010 19:21:15 +0400, Mark Goldshtein wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 3:54 PM, Camaleón wrote:
>
>>> Hibernation and suspension are sharing the same requirements than
>>> always:
>>>
>>> 1. ACPI compilant machine / devices
>>> 2. An OS capable to handle them (for hibernation you need a swap
>>> partition size with at least the same amount of your RAM) 3. Testing,
>>> testing, testing
>>> 4. A good provision of luck :-)
>>
>> It is seems like I am not too good with gathering such an ephemeral
>> thing like a 'luck'  :(
>
> Luck is a pretty scarce resource on these days...
>
>> About 'what is not working'.
>> I have a NVidia videoboard:
>>
>> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: nVidia Corporation GT216
>> [GeForce GT 240M] [10de:0a34] (rev a2)
>>       Subsystem: Lenovo Device [17aa:38fd]
>>       Kernel driver in use: nvidia
>
> Which driver are you using (nouveau, nv, nvidia)? Different drivers
> provide different support for resuming. Also, having 3D effects enabled
> can be conflictive.

I think you missed
>Kernel driver in use: nvidia


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Re: (OT) Re: Unidentified subject!

[Chris]

On Thu, 23 Sep 2010 18:33:11 -0500
"Cybe R. Wizard"  wrote:

> On Fri, 24 Sep 2010 00:01:44 +0100
> Angus Hedger  wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, 23 Sep 2010 22:28:35 + (UTC)
> > Camaleón  wrote:
> > > The Matrix, coming for us :-)  
> > 
> > Quick, check for dead pixels!
> 
> Oh, wow.  Deja Vu!
> 
> Cybe R. Wizard


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Re: (OT) Re: Unidentified subject!

[Cybe R. Wizard]

On Fri, 24 Sep 2010 00:01:44 +0100
Angus Hedger  wrote:

> On Thu, 23 Sep 2010 22:28:35 + (UTC)
> Camaleón  wrote:
> > The Matrix, coming for us :-)  
> 
> Quick, check for dead pixels!

Oh, wow.  Deja Vu!

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Re: (OT) Re: Unidentified subject!

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> On Thu, 23 Sep 2010 22:28:35 + (UTC)
> Camaleón  wrote:
>> The Matrix, coming for us :-)
>>
>> Greetings,
>>
>
> Quick, check for dead pixels!
>
> --
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Re: (OT) Re: Unidentified subject!

[Angus Hedger]

On Thu, 23 Sep 2010 22:28:35 + (UTC)
Camaleón  wrote:
> The Matrix, coming for us :-)
> 
> Greetings,
> 

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(OT) Re: Unidentified subject!

[Camaleón]

On Thu, 23 Sep 2010 18:23:09 -0400, Anticept . wrote:

> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 12:37 PM, wrote:
>>
> What was this?

The Matrix, coming for us :-)

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Re: Unidentified subject!

[Anticept .]

On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 12:37 PM,   wrote:
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What was this?

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Re: Exim4 setup for LAMP web site.

[Camaleón]

On Thu, 23 Sep 2010 13:35:03 -0700, Gary Roach wrote:

> Well, you were correct about the authentication being a problem. I fixed
> it but still no joy. I ran the swaks testing program with: swaks --auth
> --to *...@verizon.net --server outgoing.verizon.net. This asked for the
> usual login and returned a long list of things. The last lines were:
> 
> <-  235 2.7.0 LOGIN authentication successful.
>   -> MAIL FROM:
> <** 550 5.1.8 invalid/host-not-in-DNS return address not allowed
^^
(...)

That means your ISP is rejecting your host name ("@mycomputer.domain") so 
you should "masquerade" it for outgoing mail. It's like Verizon is making 
some sort of sender validation test, tries to resolve your local domain 
and it fails.

> I understand that my ISP is trying to validate me as a source but am not
> sure what to do to fix it.

Yep, I think so. And that setting should be tweakeable in your exim4 
config file but Exim... mmm, is not my area, dunno how could be done. 
Let's see if someone here can give you any tip :-)

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Re: Re: Exim4 setup for LAMP web site.

[Gary Roach]

Well, you were correct about the authentication being a problem. I fixed 
it but still no joy. I ran the swaks testing program with: swaks --auth 
--to *...@verizon.net --server outgoing.verizon.net.
This asked for the usual login and returned a long list of things. The 
last lines were:


<-  235 2.7.0 LOGIN authentication successful.
 -> MAIL FROM:
<** 550 5.1.8 invalid/host-not-in-DNS return address not allowed
 -> QUIT
<-  221 2.3.0 Bye received. Goodbye.

I understand that my ISP is trying to validate me as a source but am not 
sure what to do to fix it.


Gary R.
=

On 01/-10/-28163 11:59 AM, Camaleón wrote:

On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 14:27:57 -0700, Gary Roach wrote:

   

I hope this is not a duplicate.

I'm not sure whether this is a Drupal web editor problem or a Debian
Exim problem but when automatic messages are sent by my new web site (in
early development) they go nowhere. The pertinent Exim4 log entries are:
 

I have to recognize that I still fail to understand Exim's full
capabilities and setup (and I promise that I try hard :-P) but let me
comment just some details I've seen in your logs...

(...)

   

2010-09-22 08:31:04 1OyRHk-0001Qi-Ad ==<*name>*@<*provider>*
R=smarthost T=remote_smtp_smarthost defer (111): Connection refused
   

^^^

Are you using a smart host configuration?

If yes, most probably your ISP (o e-mail provider) is requesting you to
authenticate before sending e-mails (smtp auth). Have you already setup
that information (login/password) in Exim?

Greetings,

   

mschap-v2 de Linux a Windows

[cosme]

mschap-v2 de Linux a Windows

Tengo un PC con Debian Lenny y necesito conectarme por modem a mi ISP que 
usa Windows 2003 Server.


Windows 2003 Server usa protocolo de autenticacion mschap-v2.

en /etc/ppp/peers/provider se debe poner algo como esto???


# This optionfile was generated by pppconfig 2.3.18.

#
#

hide-password

require-mschap-v2

noauth

connect "/usr/sbin/chat -v -f /etc/chatscripts/esid"

debug

/dev/ttyS0

115200

defaultroute

noipdefault

user "provider"


ipparam provider



Pero no pasa nada, que falta???/

Saludos
Cosme



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Re: how to display duplicates between 2 repos

[Camaleón]

On Thu, 23 Sep 2010 14:10:21 +0200, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote:

> I got 2 repos locally. One is a copy of Squeeze and another is one
> managed by repoupdate (and has stuff not available in Debian official
> repos, but also has stuff from Sid). Are there ready-made tools that
> would generate a list of duplicate packages between the two? I plan to
> use this list to reduce disc usage by removing them from the
> repoupdate-managed repo.

Not sure if there is already a specific tool for Debian repos but 
"fdupes" could help (it's a generic tool to find duplicate files).

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Aptitude: does not update.

[Sthu Deus]

Good day.

I can not understand, would You explain me - why aptitude does not
update my clamav package when I have 0.96.1+dfsg-1~volatile1 version
installed, in apt's sources file I have:

# Volatile:
deb http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile lenny/volatile main
#deb-src http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile lenny/volatile main

# volatile-sloppy
deb http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile/ lenny/volatile-sloppy
main

lines, I do

# aptitude update

then

# aptitude safe-upgrade

in the volatile repo I see  clamav_0.96.3+dfsg-1~volatile1 already
available but aptitude states nothing to update.


Thank You for Your time.


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Re: Squeeze. What is current hibernation mechanism?

[Wayne Topa]

On 09/23/2010 11:01 AM, Mark Goldshtein wrote:

On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 12:23 AM, Wayne Topa  wrote:

On 09/22/2010 04:00 PM, Mark Goldshtein wrote:


Hello, list!

If somebody please to explain current hibernation mechanism in
Squeeze? If there are links to web docs about all this stuff?

1. Do I need a separate unformatted partition, which size is swap + RAM
amount?
2. Do I need to install an additional util and any way to configure it?
3. Something else?



The answer to your question and more, if you are running Squeeze already, is
already on you system.

read /usr/share/doc/hibernate/README.gz



I have no package 'hibernate' installed into the system. Nevertheless,
a 'hibernate' funktion is active and working. Probably, it is an
inside util built-in into GNOME desktop environment?
So, should I install a 'hibernate' package or it is better do not mess
these things up?

AFAIK there are 2 packages that can be used to hibernate, the 
acpi-support package and the hibernate package (apt-cache search hibernate).


As you do not have /usr/share/doc/hibernate/README.gz file you must be 
using acpi.  As I use the hibernate package I do have a readme for it, I 
suggest you search your system for the docs that support the package you 
have installed, which you failed to mention.  My comment about the docs 
being on your system still apply.


My bad for assuming you were using the hibernate package.  :-(

Wayne


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Unidentified subject!

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Re: Squeeze. What is current hibernation mechanism?

[Mark Goldshtein]

On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 8:11 PM, Camaleón  wrote:
> On Thu, 23 Sep 2010 19:21:15 +0400, Mark Goldshtein wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 3:54 PM, Camaleón wrote:
>
>>> Hibernation and suspension are sharing the same requirements than
>>> always:
>>>
>>> 1. ACPI compilant machine / devices
>>> 2. An OS capable to handle them (for hibernation you need a swap
>>> partition size with at least the same amount of your RAM) 3. Testing,
>>> testing, testing
>>> 4. A good provision of luck :-)
>>
>> It is seems like I am not too good with gathering such an ephemeral
>> thing like a 'luck'  :(
>
> Luck is a pretty scarce resource on these days...
>
>> About 'what is not working'.
>> I have a NVidia videoboard:
>>
>> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: nVidia Corporation GT216
>> [GeForce GT 240M] [10de:0a34] (rev a2)
>>       Subsystem: Lenovo Device [17aa:38fd]
>>       Kernel driver in use: nvidia
>
> Which driver are you using (nouveau, nv, nvidia)? Different drivers
> provide different support for resuming. Also, having 3D effects enabled
> can be conflictive.
>
>> When the system goes out from a hibernation, the backlit of notebook's
>> screen is not back switch on, so screen is dark and it is impossible to
>> work. If I use a suspend-to-ram sleeping scheme everything is fine. So,
>> I wonder if I misconfigured something in a hibernation scheme.
>
> There is a way for blacklisting problematic modules (meaning "disallow
> them for hibernating"). Each power manager method (pm-utils, uwusup and
> hibernate) uses theirown scripts for disabling/backlisting the modules.
>
> I would recommend reading this FAQ to get a global idea about the
> elements that come into play:
>
> http://wiki.debian.org/Suspend
>
> And also, this:
>
> http://old-en.opensuse.org/Pm-utils
>
> Where it explains some tips to debug "pm-utils" and how to disable/
> customize your own hooks.
>

Thank you very much for your time and detailed explanation.

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Re: Squeeze. What is current hibernation mechanism?

[Camaleón]

On Thu, 23 Sep 2010 19:21:15 +0400, Mark Goldshtein wrote:

> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 3:54 PM, Camaleón wrote:

>> Hibernation and suspension are sharing the same requirements than
>> always:
>>
>> 1. ACPI compilant machine / devices
>> 2. An OS capable to handle them (for hibernation you need a swap
>> partition size with at least the same amount of your RAM) 3. Testing,
>> testing, testing
>> 4. A good provision of luck :-)
> 
> It is seems like I am not too good with gathering such an ephemeral
> thing like a 'luck'  :(

Luck is a pretty scarce resource on these days...

> About 'what is not working'.
> I have a NVidia videoboard:
> 
> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: nVidia Corporation GT216
> [GeForce GT 240M] [10de:0a34] (rev a2)
>   Subsystem: Lenovo Device [17aa:38fd]
>   Kernel driver in use: nvidia

Which driver are you using (nouveau, nv, nvidia)? Different drivers 
provide different support for resuming. Also, having 3D effects enabled 
can be conflictive.

> When the system goes out from a hibernation, the backlit of notebook's
> screen is not back switch on, so screen is dark and it is impossible to
> work. If I use a suspend-to-ram sleeping scheme everything is fine. So,
> I wonder if I misconfigured something in a hibernation scheme.

There is a way for blacklisting problematic modules (meaning "disallow 
them for hibernating"). Each power manager method (pm-utils, uwusup and 
hibernate) uses theirown scripts for disabling/backlisting the modules.

I would recommend reading this FAQ to get a global idea about the 
elements that come into play:

http://wiki.debian.org/Suspend

And also, this:

http://old-en.opensuse.org/Pm-utils

Where it explains some tips to debug "pm-utils" and how to disable/
customize your own hooks.

Greetings,

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Re: Problems Installing Pacemaker and Heartbeat in Lenny

[Chen Stormstout]

Thanks for the tip, but didn't work.
I've already done the upgrade before try to install.
These are the results of your sugestion:

#aptitude safe-upgrade

Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Reading extended state information
Initializing package states... Done
Reading task descriptions... Done
No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.
0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used.
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Reading extended state information
Initializing package states... Done
Reading task descriptions... Done



# aptitude full-upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Reading extended state information
Initializing package states... Done
Reading task descriptions... Done
No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.
0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used.
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Reading extended state information
Initializing package states... Done
Reading task descriptions... Done


# aptitude -t lenny-backports install heartbeat pacemaker
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Reading extended state information
Initializing package states... Done
Reading task descriptions... Done
The following packages are BROKEN:
  cluster-glue pacemaker
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  cluster-agents{a} heartbeat libcluster-glue{a} libcorosync4{a}
  libheartbeat2{a} libnet1{a} libopenipmi0{a} libtimedate-perl{a}
0 packages upgraded, 10 newly installed, 0 to remove and 94 not upgraded.
Need to get 2277kB/2928kB of archives. After unpacking 9523kB will be used.
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
  pacemaker: Depends: libesmtp5 (>= 0.8.8) which is a virtual package.
  cluster-glue: Depends: libopenhpi2 which is a virtual package.
The following actions will resolve these dependencies:

Keep the following packages at their current version:
cluster-agents [Not Installed]
cluster-glue [Not Installed]
heartbeat [Not Installed]
pacemaker [Not Installed]

Score is -19794

Accept this solution? [Y/n/q/?] n

*** No more solutions available ***

The following actions will resolve these dependencies:

Keep the following packages at their current version:
cluster-agents [Not Installed]
cluster-glue [Not Installed]
heartbeat [Not Installed]
pacemaker [Not Installed]

Score is -19794

Accept this solution? [Y/n/q/?] n

*** No more solutions available ***

Any other suggestion?

thaks.


- Original Message ---

Subject: Re: Problems Installing Pacemaker and Heartbeat in Lenny
   From: Tshepang Lekhonkhobe 
   Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 15:35:56 +0200
 To: chenstor...@gmail.com
 Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org

>On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 14:30, Chen Stormstout  wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> There is any problem with cluster stack in debian lenny?
>> I'm trying to install but receive the errors above. I've posted this issue 
>> in pacemaker list too, but with no answers.
>>
>> This is my entire sources.list:
>>
>> #deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 5.0.5 _Lenny_ - Official i386 DVD Binary-1 
>> 20100626-17:50]/ lenny contrib main
>> deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 5.0.5 _Lenny_ - Official i386 DVD Binary-1 
>> 20100626-17:50]/ lenny contrib main
>>
>> deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main contrib
>> deb-src http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main contrib
>>
>> deb http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile lenny/volatile main contrib
>> deb-src http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile lenny/volatile main 
>> contrib
>>
>> # For the cluster
>> deb http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports lenny-backports main 
>> contrib non-free
>> #deb http://www.backports.org/debian lenny-backports main contrib non-free
>>
>> I've tried to use backports.debian.org and www.backports.org/debian, both 
>> with the same error message:
>>
>> aptitude -t lenny-backports install heartbeat pacemaker
>>
>> But still have the same error:
>>
>> Reading package lists... Done
>> Building dependency tree
>> Reading state information... Done
>> Reading extended state information
>> Initializing package states... Done
>> Reading task descriptions... Done
>> The following packages are BROKEN:
>>  cluster-glue pacemaker
>> The following NEW packages will be installed:
>>  cluster-agents{a} heartbeat libcluster-glue{a} libcorosync4{a}
>>  libheartbeat2{a} libnet1{a} libopenipmi0{a} libtimedate-perl{a}
>> 0 packages upgraded, 10 newly installed, 0 to remove and 94 not upgraded.
>> Need to get 2277kB/2928kB of archives. After unpacking 9523kB will be used.
>> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
>>  pacemaker: Depends: libesmtp5 (>= 0.

Re: Debian not running in Windoof 7 Virtual PC (in VirtualBox)

[Scott Ferguson]

On 24/09/10 00:51, Stephen Powell wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 22:49:42 -0400 (EDT), Scott Ferguson wrote:
>> On 23/09/10 06:14, Stephen Powell wrote:
>>> On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 15:29:59 -0400 (EDT), Mark Allums wrote:

 I am probably way late on this one, but that maneuver is a nonstarter. 
 Nested Virtualization is very difficult and kind of pointless.  A few 
 security researchers[0] have done it, mostly as a stunt to prove a 
 technical point, but it is very unstable.  You *can* run DOSbox in a VM, 
 but generally the question is, why would you?
>>>
>>> That may be true for some virtualization software, but not for all.
>>> My "day job" is as a system programmer for IBM mainframe systems,
>>> and among my duties is responsibility for a z/VM system.  In z/VM,
>>> nested virtualization is not difficult, pointless, or unstable.  I routinely
>>> install a new release of z/VM in a virtual machine running under
>>> the production release of z/VM, for example.  There's even instructions
>>> in IBM's installation manuals for how to do this.
>>>
>>> z/VM is probably the most robust virtualization platform available
>>> anywhere, having been developed, tweaked, and honed by IBM since 1967.
>>> But it has two distict disadvantages: (1) it is proprietary, for-charge
>>> software and (2) it only runs on IBM mainframes.
>>>
>> I suspect you're quoting Joanna and crediting Mark there...
> 
> No.  This was a reply to
> 
>http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2010/09/msg01676.html
> 
> which was posted by Mark Allums.  No-one named Joanna has posted to this
> thread.  The name Joanna was referenced only in a footnote in Mark's post.
> 


Ah! Thank you for the clarification. I shall now re-read the post in the
morning with less cynical eyes. (shoot me if you will - but I call Blue
Pill b.s. - source code available if you wish to test the $300+K hype).
In retrospect I should have given more thought to my subject line! Makes
it sound like a request for help - very obscure of me :-(

It's a moot point now - given that the purpose of running the nested
virtualization was simply to (partially) confirm VPC *is* almost
identical to VirtualBox - most definitely not some novel way to find
breakpoints for SoftIce. Not that I'd jeopardise my clearance (like
Sklyarov) just to FLIRT with Embrace, Extend, etc.

No argument with IBM's hypervisors and their capabilities - I first had
access to one of the (poorly named) RS range 20+ years ago - can't say I
loved it, but I did enjoy borrowing cards to drop into my (IBM) PS/2 :-)


Good night, and apologies for the confusion


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Re: Squeeze. What is current hibernation mechanism?

[Mark Goldshtein]

On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 3:54 PM, Camaleón  wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 20:41:18 +, T o n g wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 23 Sep 2010 00:00:40 +0400, Mark Goldshtein wrote:
>>
>>> If somebody please to explain current hibernation mechanism in Squeeze?
>>> If there are links to web docs about all this stuff?
>>
>> +1, I want to know that too.
>
> What is not working for you? :-?
>
> Hibernation and suspension are sharing the same requirements than always:
>
> 1. ACPI compilant machine / devices
> 2. An OS capable to handle them (for hibernation you need a swap
> partition size with at least the same amount of your RAM)
> 3. Testing, testing, testing
> 4. A good provision of luck :-)

It is seems like I am not too good with gathering such an ephemeral
thing like a 'luck'  :(

About 'what is not working'.
I have a NVidia videoboard:

01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: nVidia Corporation GT216
[GeForce GT 240M] [10de:0a34] (rev a2)
Subsystem: Lenovo Device [17aa:38fd]
Kernel driver in use: nvidia

When the system goes out from a hibernation, the backlit of notebook's
screen is not back switch on, so screen is dark and it is impossible
to work. If I use a suspend-to-ram sleeping scheme everything is fine.
So, I wonder if I misconfigured something in a hibernation scheme.


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Re: Squeeze. What is current hibernation mechanism?

[Mark Goldshtein]

On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 12:23 AM, Wayne Topa  wrote:
> On 09/22/2010 04:00 PM, Mark Goldshtein wrote:
>>
>> Hello, list!
>>
>> If somebody please to explain current hibernation mechanism in
>> Squeeze? If there are links to web docs about all this stuff?
>>
>> 1. Do I need a separate unformatted partition, which size is swap + RAM
>> amount?
>> 2. Do I need to install an additional util and any way to configure it?
>> 3. Something else?
>>
>
> The answer to your question and more, if you are running Squeeze already, is
> already on you system.
>
> read /usr/share/doc/hibernate/README.gz
>

I have no package 'hibernate' installed into the system. Nevertheless,
a 'hibernate' funktion is active and working. Probably, it is an
inside util built-in into GNOME desktop environment?
So, should I install a 'hibernate' package or it is better do not mess
these things up?

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Mark Goldshtein


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Re: Debian not running in Windoof 7 Virtual PC (in VirtualBox)

[Stephen Powell]

On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 22:49:42 -0400 (EDT), Scott Ferguson wrote:
> On 23/09/10 06:14, Stephen Powell wrote:
>> On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 15:29:59 -0400 (EDT), Mark Allums wrote:
>>>
>>> I am probably way late on this one, but that maneuver is a nonstarter. 
>>> Nested Virtualization is very difficult and kind of pointless.  A few 
>>> security researchers[0] have done it, mostly as a stunt to prove a 
>>> technical point, but it is very unstable.  You *can* run DOSbox in a VM, 
>>> but generally the question is, why would you?
>> 
>> That may be true for some virtualization software, but not for all.
>> My "day job" is as a system programmer for IBM mainframe systems,
>> and among my duties is responsibility for a z/VM system.  In z/VM,
>> nested virtualization is not difficult, pointless, or unstable.  I routinely
>> install a new release of z/VM in a virtual machine running under
>> the production release of z/VM, for example.  There's even instructions
>> in IBM's installation manuals for how to do this.
>> 
>> z/VM is probably the most robust virtualization platform available
>> anywhere, having been developed, tweaked, and honed by IBM since 1967.
>> But it has two distict disadvantages: (1) it is proprietary, for-charge
>> software and (2) it only runs on IBM mainframes.
>> 
> I suspect you're quoting Joanna and crediting Mark there...

No.  This was a reply to

   http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2010/09/msg01676.html

which was posted by Mark Allums.  No-one named Joanna has posted to this
thread.  The name Joanna was referenced only in a footnote in Mark's post.

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Re: Singapore Citizen Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wants to become the next person after U.S. Senator Ernie Chambers to sue God

[John Hasler]

Ernie Chambers is not and has never been a US Senator.  He is a former
Nebraska State Senator who filed suit against God in a Nebraska court to
make a point about frivolous lawsuits.  See
.
And Mr. Teo En Ming cannot file suit in the USOC at all.
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Re: Problems Installing Pacemaker and Heartbeat in Lenny

[Tshepang Lekhonkhobe]

On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 14:30, Chen Stormstout  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> There is any problem with cluster stack in debian lenny?
> I'm trying to install but receive the errors above. I've posted this issue in 
> pacemaker list too, but with no answers.
>
> This is my entire sources.list:
>
> #deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 5.0.5 _Lenny_ - Official i386 DVD Binary-1 
> 20100626-17:50]/ lenny contrib main
> deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 5.0.5 _Lenny_ - Official i386 DVD Binary-1 
> 20100626-17:50]/ lenny contrib main
>
> deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main contrib
> deb-src http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main contrib
>
> deb http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile lenny/volatile main contrib
> deb-src http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile lenny/volatile main contrib
>
> # For the cluster
> deb http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports lenny-backports main contrib 
> non-free
> #deb http://www.backports.org/debian lenny-backports main contrib non-free
>
> I've tried to use backports.debian.org and www.backports.org/debian, both 
> with the same error message:
>
> aptitude -t lenny-backports install heartbeat pacemaker
>
> But still have the same error:
>
> Reading package lists... Done
> Building dependency tree
> Reading state information... Done
> Reading extended state information
> Initializing package states... Done
> Reading task descriptions... Done
> The following packages are BROKEN:
>  cluster-glue pacemaker
> The following NEW packages will be installed:
>  cluster-agents{a} heartbeat libcluster-glue{a} libcorosync4{a}
>  libheartbeat2{a} libnet1{a} libopenipmi0{a} libtimedate-perl{a}
> 0 packages upgraded, 10 newly installed, 0 to remove and 94 not upgraded.
> Need to get 2277kB/2928kB of archives. After unpacking 9523kB will be used.
> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
>  pacemaker: Depends: libesmtp5 (>= 0.8.8) which is a virtual package.
>  cluster-glue: Depends: libopenhpi2 which is a virtual package.
> The following actions will resolve these dependencies:
>
> Keep the following packages at their current version:
> cluster-agents [Not Installed]
> cluster-glue [Not Installed]
> heartbeat [Not Installed]
> pacemaker [Not Installed]
>
> Score is -19794
>
>
>
> The same for corosync:
>
> aptitude install -t lenny-backports pacemaker corosync
> Reading package lists... Done
> Building dependency tree
> Reading state information... Done
> Reading extended state information
> Initializing package states... Done
> Reading task descriptions... Done
> The following packages are BROKEN:
>  cluster-glue pacemaker
> The following NEW packages will be installed:
>  cluster-agents{a} corosync libcluster-glue{a} libcorosync4{a}
>  libheartbeat2{a} libnet1{a} libopenipmi0{a} libtimedate-perl{a}
> 0 packages upgraded, 10 newly installed, 0 to remove and 94 not upgraded.
> Need to get 2235kB/2886kB of archives. After unpacking 9351kB will be used.
> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
>  pacemaker: Depends: libesmtp5 (>= 0.8.8) which is a virtual package.
>  cluster-glue: Depends: libopenhpi2 which is a virtual package.
> The following actions will resolve these dependencies:
>
> Keep the following packages at their current version:
> cluster-agents [Not Installed]
> cluster-glue [Not Installed]
> pacemaker [Not Installed]
>
> Score is -9863
>
>
> There is a problem with the packages or i'm doing something wrong?
>
> Forgive my bad english.
>
> Thank You.
>
> Chen.

Before you do this, can you run "aptitude safe-upgrade", which should
be safe given that you are running Lenny. After that, if there are
still packages that are not upgraded, run "aptitude full-upgrade", and
proceed while ensuring that you don't get stuff you care about getting
deleted.

After all this, then you can try installing the 3: heartbeat,
pacemaker, and corosync. If you still get the same, when aptitude asks
if you happy with its Suggestions, say no. It will continue offering
Suggestions until you either say Yes, quit, or until it doesn't know
how to resolve the situation. Read what it displays well. It is simple
to understand.



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Re: renamed network interface eth0 to eth1

[Hugo Vanwoerkom]

Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

Hi,

I couldn't figure out why the network wouldn't come up, untill I saw this:

h...@debian:~$ dmesg | grep -i eth
[1.181349] 8139cp: 10/100 PCI Ethernet driver v1.3 (Mar 22, 2004)
[1.229553] 8139too Fast Ethernet driver 0.9.28
[1.231041] eth0: RealTek RTL8139 at 0x3000, 00:0a:e4:eb:04:59, IRQ 20
[9.727658] udev: renamed network interface eth0 to eth1
[   21.532930] eth1: link up, 100Mbps, full-duplex, lpa 0x45E1
[   32.464023] eth1: no IPv6 routers present

Why would udev rename the interface?



Thanks for the helpful answers. Of course the NIC changed, what am I
saying? Acc. to my records this system was generated on 03/10/10 from a
lenny d-i on an 8VTAI mobo. After that it was upgraded repeatedly and
moved around via mondo. Then via another post:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2010/09/msg01677.html
I installed the latest sid debian kernel and booted that on an acer
aspire laptop: changing the NIC and the MAC address.

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Re: ps - Illegal Instruction

[Jerry Stuckle]

On 9/22/2010 11:48 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote:

Jerry,

You keep saying things like:


I appreciate the comments, but people just don't understand. Another
virtual machine is NOT an option here. I either get it to work under
Virtual PC or have to toss Debian all together. There are no other
choices. The decision is totally out of my hands.
As I said - unless you can tell me WHY it doesn't work, it's not open
for discussion. The fact you tried it with one distro and don't like
Microsoft are NOT valid reasons.

and


And as to the suggestions from other users to try another VM - that's
not open for discussion unless you can tell my why the one that comes
with Windows 7 doesn't work.


and


I'm still pretty much a noob on Linux, so please be gentle :)


What you HAVEN'T said is:

- what you're actually trying to accomplish

- why you're so adamant about running the specific combination of Debian
Lenny under VPC under Windows7

- who's decision it is, or

- what the decision criteria are

Is this a technical or a management mandate?

If technical, there are an awful lot of folks who are telling you that
the particular combination of Win7/VPC/Lenny is a pretty complicated
combination, never designed to work well together, without any real
documentation - and that there are other, more reliable ways to get a
Linux environment running under Windows. More scoping as to the ultimate
goal might help generate advice on work-around for the things that
aren't working (or advice along the lines of "that's just a crazy
approach to the problem you're trying to solve).

If managerial, then how much time does your management want to invest,
and how detailed an answer do they really need before deciding that some
other approach makes more sense.

In short:
- it's abundantly clear that your configuration doesn't work
- there's no simple answer to why it won't work
- apparently the simple answer - "we tried, this combination of software
doesn't play nicely" is not good enough for 
- for your particular application, maybe you SHOULD "toss Debian all
together"

Though, out of purely perverse interest, it would be nice to know what
the heck this is all about.

Miles Fidelman



No, Miles, I have not talked about why because it is not open for 
discussion.  Also, I do not want to get off the technical aspects of the 
subject.  So I will not discuss it.



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Squeeze AMD64 Sound/Libs Issue

[Carlos Bergero]

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Hi there list members,
Last week my Squeeze box, upgraded from Lenny, suffer a disc crash and
had to be reinstalled, though installation was smooth and easy, I cant
make sound works, I dont even have a clue of why is not working, Kernel
modules seem to be working:
snd_seq_dummy   1343  0
snd_hda_codec_realtek   235570  1
snd_hda_intel  19955  2
snd_hda_codec  54244  2 snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_intel
snd_hwdep   5380  1 snd_hda_codec
snd_pcm_oss32591  0
snd_mixer_oss  12606  1 snd_pcm_oss
snd_pcm60503  3 snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_pcm_oss
snd_seq_midi4400  0
snd_rawmidi15515  1 snd_seq_midi
snd_seq_midi_event  4628  1 snd_seq_midi
snd_seq42737  3
snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_event
snd_timer  15582  2 snd_pcm,snd_seq
snd_seq_device  4493  4
snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_midi,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq
snd46414  15
snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_hwdep,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device
soundcore   4598  1 snd
snd_page_alloc  6169  2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm

I dont have gstreamer running, but im not shure if it should be, sound
card was working in prior instalation, and works fine in Windows XP.

I know is not much but any idea what can I try, on the other hand, and
I dont know if is not related when I try to run some apps, i got a lib
error message:
gtkevemon: error while loading shared libraries: libgtkmm-2.4.so.1:
cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

Weird thing is that i could run it a few days back and it runs from
root, lib is there:
r...@beast:~$ ls -lah /usr/lib/libgtkmm-2.4.so.1*
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   21 sep 20 02:39 /usr/lib/libgtkmm-2.4.so.1 ->
libgtkmm-2.4.so.1.1.0
- -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4,5M may  4 12:15 /usr/lib/libgtkmm-2.4.so.1.1.0

Any idea is wellcame,

Sincerely,
rak
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Problems Installing Pacemaker and Heartbeat in Lenny

[Chen Stormstout]

Hi,

There is any problem with cluster stack in debian lenny?
I'm trying to install but receive the errors above. I've posted this issue in 
pacemaker list too, but with no answers.

This is my entire sources.list:

#deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 5.0.5 _Lenny_ - Official i386 DVD Binary-1 
20100626-17:50]/ lenny contrib main
deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 5.0.5 _Lenny_ - Official i386 DVD Binary-1 
20100626-17:50]/ lenny contrib main

deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main contrib
deb-src http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main contrib

deb http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile lenny/volatile main contrib
deb-src http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile lenny/volatile main contrib

# For the cluster
deb http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports lenny-backports main contrib 
non-free
#deb http://www.backports.org/debian lenny-backports main contrib non-free

I've tried to use backports.debian.org and www.backports.org/debian, both with 
the same error message:

aptitude -t lenny-backports install heartbeat pacemaker

But still have the same error:

Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree   
Reading state information... Done
Reading extended state information  
Initializing package states... Done
Reading task descriptions... Done  
The following packages are BROKEN:
  cluster-glue pacemaker 
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  cluster-agents{a} heartbeat libcluster-glue{a} libcorosync4{a} 
  libheartbeat2{a} libnet1{a} libopenipmi0{a} libtimedate-perl{a} 
0 packages upgraded, 10 newly installed, 0 to remove and 94 not upgraded.
Need to get 2277kB/2928kB of archives. After unpacking 9523kB will be used.
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
  pacemaker: Depends: libesmtp5 (>= 0.8.8) which is a virtual package.
  cluster-glue: Depends: libopenhpi2 which is a virtual package.
The following actions will resolve these dependencies:

Keep the following packages at their current version:
cluster-agents [Not Installed]
cluster-glue [Not Installed]
heartbeat [Not Installed]
pacemaker [Not Installed]

Score is -19794



The same for corosync:

aptitude install -t lenny-backports pacemaker corosync
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree   
Reading state information... Done
Reading extended state information  
Initializing package states... Done
Reading task descriptions... Done  
The following packages are BROKEN:
  cluster-glue pacemaker 
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  cluster-agents{a} corosync libcluster-glue{a} libcorosync4{a} 
  libheartbeat2{a} libnet1{a} libopenipmi0{a} libtimedate-perl{a} 
0 packages upgraded, 10 newly installed, 0 to remove and 94 not upgraded.
Need to get 2235kB/2886kB of archives. After unpacking 9351kB will be used.
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
  pacemaker: Depends: libesmtp5 (>= 0.8.8) which is a virtual package.
  cluster-glue: Depends: libopenhpi2 which is a virtual package.
The following actions will resolve these dependencies:

Keep the following packages at their current version:
cluster-agents [Not Installed]
cluster-glue [Not Installed]
pacemaker [Not Installed]

Score is -9863


There is a problem with the packages or i'm doing something wrong?

Forgive my bad english.

Thank You.

Chen.


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how to display duplicates between 2 repos

[Tshepang Lekhonkhobe]

Hi,

I got 2 repos locally. One is a copy of Squeeze and another is one
managed by repoupdate (and has stuff not available in Debian official
repos, but also has stuff from Sid). Are there ready-made tools that
would generate a list of duplicate packages between the two? I plan to
use this list to reduce disc usage by removing them from the
repoupdate-managed repo.

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Re: Debian not running in Windoof 7 Virtual PC (in VirtualBox)

[Mark Allums]

On 9/22/2010 9:56 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote:


This is the exception that proves the rule.  I still think that doing it
under an AMD64 or Intel x86_64 is probably futile under the current
state-of -the-art.



Nested virtualization is *not* the point or objective of the exercise -
enabling installation of Debian in W7VPC *is*.

Hypervisor is a very common "exception" in my experience - I guess it
depends on what you're exposed to in the workplace.



I am not making myself clear.  You can do it under zVM.  You can't do it 
with Virtualbox and Virtul PC.  Pure and simple.



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Re: Squeeze. What is current hibernation mechanism?

[Camaleón]

On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 20:41:18 +, T o n g wrote:

> On Thu, 23 Sep 2010 00:00:40 +0400, Mark Goldshtein wrote:
> 
>> If somebody please to explain current hibernation mechanism in Squeeze?
>> If there are links to web docs about all this stuff?
> 
> +1, I want to know that too.

What is not working for you? :-?

Hibernation and suspension are sharing the same requirements than always:

1. ACPI compilant machine / devices
2. An OS capable to handle them (for hibernation you need a swap 
partition size with at least the same amount of your RAM)
3. Testing, testing, testing
4. A good provision of luck :-)

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Re: Where to find sarge (3.1) packages?

[Camaleón]

On Thu, 23 Sep 2010 11:53:06 +0200, Clemens Eisserer wrote:

> Any idea where I could still find packages for debian sarge for manual
> download?

Using the Snapshot server? :-?

> I have a quite old and very broken sarge installation running on a
> Pentium-90 machine.
> I would like to install dhcp3-server by hand, because apt-get's database
> destroyed itself some years ago ;) The machine simply acts as a
> fail-save router for our current server - I don't have the time to
> re-setup that old machine - nor is it connected to the internet, so no
> security risks.

Check if this helps:

http://snapshot.debian.org/binary/dhcp3-server/

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Re: Where to find sarge (3.1) packages?

[Sven Joachim]

On 2010-09-23 11:53 +0200, Clemens Eisserer wrote:

> Any idea where I could still find packages for debian sarge for manual
> download?

http://archive.debian.net/

> I have a quite old and very broken sarge installation running on a
> Pentium-90 machine.
> I would like to install dhcp3-server by hand, because apt-get's
> database destroyed itself some years ago ;)

You need to download dhcp3-common as well, if it's not installed yet.

Sven



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Re: Exim4 setup for LAMP web site.

[Camaleón]

On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 14:27:57 -0700, Gary Roach wrote:

> I hope this is not a duplicate.
> 
> I'm not sure whether this is a Drupal web editor problem or a Debian
> Exim problem but when automatic messages are sent by my new web site (in
> early development) they go nowhere. The pertinent Exim4 log entries are:

I have to recognize that I still fail to understand Exim's full 
capabilities and setup (and I promise that I try hard :-P) but let me 
comment just some details I've seen in your logs...

(...)

>> 2010-09-22 08:31:04 1OyRHk-0001Qi-Ad == <*name>*@<*provider>*
>> R=smarthost T=remote_smtp_smarthost defer (111): Connection refused
   ^^^

Are you using a smart host configuration? 

If yes, most probably your ISP (o e-mail provider) is requesting you to 
authenticate before sending e-mails (smtp auth). Have you already setup 
that information (login/password) in Exim?

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Where to find sarge (3.1) packages?

[Clemens Eisserer]

Hi,

Any idea where I could still find packages for debian sarge for manual
download?

I have a quite old and very broken sarge installation running on a
Pentium-90 machine.
I would like to install dhcp3-server by hand, because apt-get's
database destroyed itself some years ago ;)
The machine simply acts as a fail-save router for our current server -
I don't have the time to re-setup that old machine - nor is it
connected to the internet, so no security risks.

Thank you in advance, Clemens


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Re: gdm3 exclude certain usernames

[Camaleón]

On Thu, 23 Sep 2010 18:52:56 +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote:

> On 23/09/10 16:17, Camaleón wrote:

>>> Which remembers me -  When I was doing a bit of a search last night I
>>> came across comments to the effect that gdm-setup(?) functionality
>>> "will" become part of the new Gnome shell.
> 
> Accessible/configurable from is what I should have written

Mmm... I'm not planning to move into gnome shell (still) so having to 
switch into that just to get more "accessibility" or "higher levels of 
configurability" would be a big handicap.
 
>> Ugh... that would be an ugly approach ;-(
>> 
>> Can you expand that information?
>> 
> Not really, what I vaguely recall is that system configurations will
> become(/be set from) an extension in gnome shell, gdm included. I
> assumed that to mean that the daemon.conf would become
> configurable/accessible through the shell.
> 
> Came across the following in an attempt to track down where I read that.
> Don't know if this is relevant:-
>> The old GDM allowed sysadmins or distros to configure this in the GDM
>> daemon configuration.  Perhaps it makes sense to add this configuration
>> option back so distros can set it as needed in their default
>> configuration file.
> Quoted from :-
> http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gdm-list/2010-July/msg00015.html Scroll
> down for the reference to Bug #587750

Thanks... that gnome bug (#587750) seems to be key:

***
GDM rewrite needs a configuration GUI panel similar to 2.20 (gdmsetup)
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=587750
***

Fortunately, there is no mention for binding "gdmsetup" within gnome 
shell :-)

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Re: converting pcm raw output to wav or mp3 file

[Siju George]

On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 5:21 PM, Anand Sivaram  wrote:
>
> Wave is nothing but raw PCM in littile endian (intel) format with generally
> 44 bytes of header which contains sample rate, number of channels, total
> number of samples etc.
> Since it is raw PCM data, while creating either wave or mp3, you will have
> to specify your sample rate, number of channel and format (number of bits,
> little/big endian etc.)
>

Thanks Kumar :-) But Anand the raw pcm file I got was more than 700 MB
but when I converted it to .wav it was only 71 MB why is that?

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Re: tar and --sparse

[Camaleón]

On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 20:40:13 +, T o n g wrote:

> I created a Linux system tar ball without using the --sparse switch. The
> .tar.bzip2 tar ball is only of 1.5G in size. However, restoring such tar
> ball into a 10G partition would fail:
> 
>  Cannot write: No space left on device

(...)

Maybe a "tmpfs" limit related issue?

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Re: gdm3 exclude certain usernames

[Scott Ferguson]

On 23/09/10 16:17, Camaleón wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 17:33:41 +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote:
> 
>> On 22/09/10 17:04, Camaleón wrote:
> 
>>> That remebembers me... there used to be a GUI app to handle that (in
>>> gdm 2.x) that one could launch with "gksu /usr/sbin/gdmsetup" but the
>>> same app under gdm3 lacks for many of its features (in fact, it's
>>> pretty minimal).
>>>
>>>
>> Which remembers me -  When I was doing a bit of a search last night I
>> came across comments to the effect that gdm-setup(?) functionality
>> "will" become part of the new Gnome shell.

Accessible/configurable from is what I should have written

> 
> Ugh... that would be an ugly approach ;-(
> 
> Can you expand that information?
> 
> Greetings,
> 

Not really, what I vaguely recall is that system configurations will
become(/be set from) an extension in gnome shell, gdm included. I
assumed that to mean that the daemon.conf would become
configurable/accessible through the shell.

Came across the following in an attempt to track down where I read that.
Don't know if this is relevant:-
> The old GDM allowed sysadmins or distros to configure this in the GDM
> daemon configuration.  Perhaps it makes sense to add this configuration
> option back so distros can set it as needed in their default
> configuration file.
Quoted from :-
http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gdm-list/2010-July/msg00015.html
Scroll down for the reference to Bug #587750

Cheers


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Re: tar and --sparse

[Anand Sivaram]

What is the actual size of the original file/directory before tarring?
On the source side, try
du -ms  to find out the actual size on disk.  That should
be less than 10GB.

On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 02:29, Sven Joachim  wrote:

> On 2010-09-22 22:40 +0200, T o n g wrote:
>
> > I created a Linux system tar ball without using the --sparse switch.
> > The .tar.bzip2 tar ball is only of 1.5G in size. However, restoring such
> > tar ball into a 10G partition would fail:
> >
> >  Cannot write: No space left on device
> >
> > It fails even if I've used the --sparse switch when restoring. 10G is
> > more than 6 times bigger than 1.5G. Does it really require that much of
> > space, or I'm doing something wrong.
>
> The GNU tar documentation says this about the --sparse option:
>
> This option is meaningful only when creating or updating archives.
> It has no effect on extraction.
>
> HTH,
>Sven
>
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