date:20100926

On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 9:53 AM, Stephen Powell zlinux...@wowway.com wrote:
On Fri, 24 Sep 2010 03:50:38 -0400 (EDT), Magicloud Magiclouds wrote:
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 10:05 PM, Stephen Powell zlinux...@wowway.com
wrote:

Why don't you just tell us exactly what you are trying to do?

I have tried a few things and things seem smooth till I cannot
`svn co svn+ssh://svn.debian.org/svn/d-i/trunk`.
With svn+ssh, I was asked for a password, which I have absolutely no
idea. Without +ssh, svn just hung there. I do not know what happened.

That's not what I mean. Are you trying to install Debian? Is that
the end goal? If so, what's wrong with the standard Debian installer?
Why do you think you need to customize it? I've been installing and
using Debian for ten years, and I have never needed to create a
custom version of the Debian installer. What exactly are you trying
to do and why do you think that you need a customized version of the
Debian installer to do it?

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Normally, I use general d-i, too. But this time, I'd like to try out
reiser4 as root fs.
I do have other options, like building a new system within an existing
debian installation which supports reiser4. But just out of curiosity,
I think why learning about how to initialize an system and custom the
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I'd have to say, the documents for this task is pretty rare besides
the few on wiki.debian.org. But glad to say I am on my way, just
without a guide.

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Re: video card reccomendation

On Sat, 25 Sep 2010 23:51:20 -0400
Rick Pasotto r...@niof.net wrote:

 I need to get an agp video card so take the video load off the regular
 bus. Also my new monitor has 1600x900 resolution and the openchrome
 driver doesn't recognize that resolution. I don't play games, so it's
 mostly for text, web, and an occasional video file.
 
 What would be the least expensive card for my needs?
 

Well, if you dont want to play games, your choices are, ATI OSS
drivers, nVidia OSS drivers, nVidia binary blob driver.

You can get pretty much any ATI gpu and get everything bar 3D from the
OSS driver, see here [1], here are a few cards that would be fine
[2]-[5]

If you want video decoding in the GPU, you only real option is a nVidia
card with the binary blob (Its iffy on the ATI binary and the OSS
drivers have no support or its iffy) though the only AGP nVidia card i
could find new is this [6] and it will have limited hardware decoding
support due to its older nature.

The number of AGP cards is quite limited, but the HD3xxx or HD4xxx
or a nVidia 6200 should all do the job, do note that hardware
accelerated video only works on the binary drivers at the moment, and
the ATI binary driver can be very buggy at times.

But if you can live without video acceleration, one of the ATI grathics
cards with the OSS Radeon driver will give you a very nice 2D
experiance with KMS etc!

Sorry for the long post!


[1]http://www.x.org/wiki/RadeonFeature
[2]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102862
[3]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102814
[4]http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-183-XFgroupid=701catid=56subcat=1842
[5]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161318
[6]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125249
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A question about mixing releases

2010-09-26 Thread Aniruddha

I use apt-pinning to mix stable, testing and sid. because of a bug in
Squeeze I've installed fglrx-modules-dkms from sid. Today I got an
update for my fglrx packages I noticed these were pulled in from a sid
repository. My question is the following: if  you install a package
from an unstable repository does it mean that apt/aptitude then tracks
unstable updates for that package? And is it possible to prevent a
specific package version from being updated (like package.mask in
Gentoo)? Thanks in advance


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[OT] Scanning through virtualbox (was: hp deskjet 2050 scanner not working)

On Sat, 25 Sep 2010 23:22:17 +0200, Jozsef Vadkan wrote:

 On 25 September 2010 19:30, Camaleón wrote:

 so i have to install a windows xp in virtualbox? :D my god.. :D:P

 At least at this right moment, I'd say yes :-(

 But as per the above links (the first one), it's like HPLIP could be
 adding scanner capabilty in a future release :-)

 the problem is that i installed a windows xp on virtualbox, and it
 recognizes [devmgmt.msc] the 2050...but it doesn't scan :D omg..

Disclaimer: This is not a windows mailing list and some people may become 
angry for seeing replyings to these kind of posts. So, I'll give you some 
advice here but if you are still facing problems, contact me by e-mail, 
directly.

First, have you installed the full software suite?

Second, have you followed the installation step instructions?

And third, have you tried to adquire an image from the scanner by using 
TWAIN interface? (this can be done from any software program capable of 
handling TWAIN imports).

THT.

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Re: (OT) Re: mschap-v2 de Linux a Windows

On Sat, 25 Sep 2010 18:37:27 -0300, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote:

 On 09/24/2010 07:12 AM, Camaleón wrote:
 Anyway, he also sends the same message to the Spanish list, so don't
 worry about that, people in there answer his questions.
 
 I wonder if he reads the answers there, because he seems not to read the
 ones in this list.

My guess is that he doesn't (and I also doubt he reads the Spanish list 
replies neither) :-(

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Re: video card reccomendation

On Sat, 25 Sep 2010 23:51:20 -0400, Rick Pasotto wrote:

 I need to get an agp video card so take the video load off the regular
 bus. Also my new monitor has 1600x900 resolution and the openchrome
 driver doesn't recognize that resolution. I don't play games, so it's
 mostly for text, web, and an occasional video file.

Tell us a bit more about the current VGA chipset in use. Maybe getting 
the high resolution is just a matter of tweaking the xorg configuration 
file properly.

 What would be the least expensive card for my needs?

I would expect any semi-modern AGP card (ati, nvidia or matrox) could 
handle that resolution. Just choose one you like and put the name here to 
get further advice :-)

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Re: hp deskjet 2050 scanner not working

2010-09-26 Thread Scott Ferguson

On 26/09/10 01:00, Jozsef Vadkan wrote:
 I bought a $subject all-in-one printer/scanner.

Hopefully you won't make that mistake again - IMHO all-in-one does
nothing-very-well... :-(

 
 i just want to use the scanner. why doest kooka, xsane recognize it?
 what steps do i need, to bring it to life? or is its not supported
 yet?
 
/snip

As noted by others:-
Scan is not supported for HP Deskjet 2050 J510 series
quoting from http://hplipopensource.com/node/342

But before you give up on support under Linux you might try emailing the
Vuescan (commercial scanning program) developer - I've found him to be
very helpful. (Vuescan works very well)
http://www.hamrick.com/sup.html

Best of luck


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Re: A question about mixing releases

2010-09-26 Thread Alexander Batischev

On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 11:20:43AM +0200, Aniruddha wrote:
 I use apt-pinning to mix stable, testing and sid. because of a bug in
 Squeeze I've installed fglrx-modules-dkms from sid. Today I got an
 update for my fglrx packages I noticed these were pulled in from a sid
 repository. My question is the following: if  you install a package
 from an unstable repository does it mean that apt/aptitude then tracks
 unstable updates for that package?
Package may be upgraded only if there's one with a bigger version number. If
you have package from sid, the newer may appear only in sid. That is, aptitude
tracks all the repos and would upgrade wrom that one where is the newest
package - in your situation it would mean 'from sid'.

 And is it possible to prevent a
 specific package version from being updated (like package.mask in
 Gentoo)? Thanks in advance
Yes, that's called 'hold'. Just run
# aptitude hold package
and package would never ever be updated unless you unhold it with
# aptitude unhold package

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Re: video card reccomendation

On Sun, 26 Sep 2010 05:37:34 -0400
Paul Cartwright deb...@pcartwright.com wrote:

 On Sun September 26 2010, Angus Hedger wrote:
  Sorry for the long post!
 
 wow, if I was looking for a card, that would be exactly the info I
 would want, no less!!
 great post!

One trys ones best, thanks!

 I have DELL desktops that all have NVIDIA cards.. messy to configure 
 correctly, especially after a kernel update, but they do work.

The nVidia binary driver is generally easy to use and it keeps
pace with kernel and xorg versions compared to the ATI blob, now
that’s a nightmare!

The only problem with FOSS drivers, is that half of the required bits
are in the kernel, and half in userspace, so if you build your own
kernels, you might end up needed to rebuild your graphics driver as
well!

But if you stick to stock kernels, and dont need high performance 3D,
the OSS drivers give the nicest experience, with KMS, high resolution
VT's as standard and smooth 2D etc.

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Re: A question about mixing releases

2010-09-26 Thread Sven Joachim

On 2010-09-26 11:20 +0200, Aniruddha wrote:

 I use apt-pinning to mix stable, testing and sid. because of a bug in
 Squeeze I've installed fglrx-modules-dkms from sid. Today I got an
 update for my fglrx packages I noticed these were pulled in from a sid
 repository. My question is the following: if  you install a package
 from an unstable repository does it mean that apt/aptitude then tracks
 unstable updates for that package?

That depends on the Pin-Priority you use for it, see
apt_preferences(5).  Could you show your /etc/apt/preferences file?

 And is it possible to prevent a specific package version from being
 updated (like package.mask in Gentoo)?

If you _only_ use aptitude, aptitude hold package works¹.
Unfortunately this is ignored by apt-get, you can use 
echo package hold | dpkg --set-selections.

Sven


¹ This is not totally reliable with lenny's aptitude, but squeeze's
  aptitude should always respect it.


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Re: A question about mixing releases

2010-09-26 Thread Aniruddha

Thanks for the help. I thought dpkg --set-selections doesn't' work
with package versions. My apt/preferences file:

$ cat  /etc/apt/preferences
Package: *
Pin: release a=stable
Pin-Priority: 700

Package: *
Pin: release a=testing
Pin-Priority: 650

Package: *
Pin: release a=unstable
Pin-Priority: 600


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Re: A question about mixing releases

2010-09-26 Thread Sven Joachim

On 2010-09-26 12:58 +0200, Aniruddha wrote:

 Thanks for the help. I thought dpkg --set-selections doesn't' work
 with package versions. My apt/preferences file:

 $ cat  /etc/apt/preferences
 Package: *
 Pin: release a=stable
 Pin-Priority: 700

 Package: *
 Pin: release a=testing
 Pin-Priority: 650

 Package: *
 Pin: release a=unstable
 Pin-Priority: 600

Thanks, with this Pin-Priority packages that you install from unstable
will be updated automatically from there as long as they don't migrate
to testing.  This is probably what you want, but if you would like to
avoid it, you could set unstable's Pin-Priority to a value  100 (100 is
the priority of installed versions).

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Proposal of Fluxbox styles for Debian

2010-09-26 Thread Dale

Hi All,

I have been working on a couple new Fluxbox styles[1] for Debian and
hopefully be added the the Debian packaged version of Fluxbox and one
to maybe come the default style for a Debian release like squeeze, or
the next Debian release.

The 3 styles I have done are called:
* Debian_LibStick Light
* Debian_LibStick Dark High Contrast
* Debian_LibStick Dark

If anyone knows the author(s) of the said wallpaper images used in the
screen shots, could you please let me know so I can add credit to them
in the style source(s), As the images are included in the current
version of Fluxbox 1.1.1+dfsg2-1.

Comments and/or suggestions more than welcome

People on the 'debian-desktop' please email me back directly as I am
not on this mailing list

Regards
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[1] http://wiki.debian.org/DebianArt/Themes/Debian_LibStick
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Squeeze NetInstal broke on Ethernet controller detection

2010-09-26 Thread Willy Lambert

Hi all,

I am quite new with using community supports so please be patient and let me
learn if something is wrong. Be sure that I search a week on the net to find
a solution. I'm desesperated :)

*
*

*summary :*

I am trying to install a Debian Squeeze distribution with a netinstall on
a CD media but the installation failed when detected the ethernet card
(despite it should work with the e1000e driver which is included in Debian).
It tried to go further without LAN, but seems to be an infite chain of
problems : if I want to compile the driver I need to apt-get build tools
for which I need Internet... So my strategy is to make the installer
working.


*hardware :*

The target is an Advantech PCM-3362 card (quite the same content as a
netbook without the wifi in a PC104 size)
http://www.advantech.com.tw/products/PCM-3362/mod_2B69DA4C-D506-4AEA-8CC3-F6E58E3CBC87.aspx
the aim is to embedded it in a mobile robot.

Its Ethernet controller is an Intel 82567V, which should be working with an
e1000e driver
http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=YDwnldID=15817ProdId=3003lang=eng
You can find here a detailed article about the Advantech board, in
particular its bus and component architecture at the end :
http://ruggedpcreview.com/3_components_advantech_pcm3362.html

lspci shows :
00:19.0 Ethernet controller : Intel Corporation 82567V-3 Gigabit Network
Connection (rev 04)
00.1e.0 PCI bridge : Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev f4)
and other things


*details :*

The installer broke when detecting the ethernet controller. I have a menu in
which I can choose e1000e (and also e100 e1000). when I choose it, the
screen became blue, things happens (see below) and then the menu is back
again as if it has not found my controller

In the the fourth console (ctrl+f4=installer log) I can read after hiting
e1000e in the menu when things happens:
_ ${date} kernel [$[time]] e1000e : Intel (R) PRO/1000 Network Driver
-0.3.3.4-k4
_ ${date} kernel [$[time]] e1000e : Copyrigth (c) 1999-20008 Intel
Corporation
_ ethdetect : insmod
/lib/modules/2.6.30-2-484/kernel/drivers/net/e1000e/e1000e.ko

when I test in the installer console (ctrl+f2 or ctrl+f3) lsmod, I found the
e1000e module (it was not here before I choose it in the ethernet detection
menu). So everything seems to be correct.

I used an i386 version of debian whereas my CPU is an Atom 64b, I don't know
if this is problematic


*help :*

So anyone could help me finding why this menu don't want to select my
controller ?


thanks in advance for your attention

Re: Squeeze NetInstal broke on Ethernet controller detection

On Sun, 26 Sep 2010 14:57:46 +0200, Willy Lambert wrote:

 I am trying to install a Debian Squeeze distribution with a netinstall
 on a CD media but the installation failed when detected the ethernet
 card (despite it should work with the e1000e driver which is included in
 Debian). It tried to go further without LAN, but seems to be an infite
 chain of problems : if I want to compile the driver I need to apt-get
 build tools for which I need Internet... So my strategy is to make the
 installer working.

(...)

What netinstall ISO file are you using?

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Re: Squeeze NetInstal broke on Ethernet controller detection

2010-09-26 Thread Scott Ferguson

On 26/09/10 22:57, Willy Lambert wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I am quite new with using community supports so please be patient and
 let me learn if something is wrong. Be sure that I search a week on the
 net to find a solution. I'm desesperated :)
 
 *
 *
 
 *summary :*
 
 I am trying to install a Debian Squeeze distribution with a netinstall
 on a CD media but the installation failed when detected the ethernet
 card (despite it should work with the e1000e driver which is included in
 Debian). It tried to go further without LAN, but seems to be an infite
 chain of problems : if I want to compile the driver I need to apt-get
 build tools for which I need Internet... So my strategy is to make the
 installer working.
 
 
 *hardware :*
 
 The target is an Advantech PCM-3362 card (quite the same content as a
 netbook without the wifi in a PC104 size)
 http://www.advantech.com.tw/products/PCM-3362/mod_2B69DA4C-D506-4AEA-8CC3-F6E58E3CBC87.aspx
 the aim is to embedded it in a mobile robot.
 
 Its Ethernet controller is an Intel 82567V, which should be working with
 an e1000e driver
 http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=YDwnldID=15817ProdId=3003lang=eng
 http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=YDwnldID=15817ProdId=3003lang=eng
 You can find here a detailed article about the Advantech board, in
 particular its bus and component architecture at the end :
 http://ruggedpcreview.com/3_components_advantech_pcm3362.html
 
 lspci shows :
 00:19.0 Ethernet controller : Intel Corporation 82567V-3 Gigabit Network
 Connection (rev 04)
 00.1e.0 PCI bridge : Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev f4)
 and other things
 
 
 *details :*
 
 The installer broke when detecting the ethernet controller. I have a
 menu in which I can choose e1000e (and also e100 e1000). when I
 choose it, the screen became blue, things happens (see below) and then
 the menu is back again as if it has not found my controller
 
 In the the fourth console (ctrl+f4=installer log) I can read after
 hiting e1000e in the menu when things happens:
 _ ${date} kernel [$[time]] e1000e : Intel (R) PRO/1000 Network Driver
 -0.3.3.4-k4
 _ ${date} kernel [$[time]] e1000e : Copyrigth (c) 1999-20008 Intel
 Corporation
 _ ethdetect : insmod
 /lib/modules/2.6.30-2-484/kernel/drivers/net/e1000e/e1000e.ko
 
 when I test in the installer console (ctrl+f2 or ctrl+f3) lsmod, I found
 the e1000e module (it was not here before I choose it in the ethernet
 detection menu). So everything seems to be correct.
 
 I used an i386 version of debian whereas my CPU is an Atom 64b, I don't
 know if this is problematic
 
 
 *help :*
 
 So anyone could help me finding why this menu don't want to select my
 controller ?
 
 
 thanks in advance for your attention
 

Are you sure about your CPU?
I make it as an Atom N450:-
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Atom_n450redirect=no
in which case you might get more mileage with amd64

Appears that some parts of the board are non-standard:-
http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-i2c/msg03462.html

I could tell you more about the nic if I could just get the *^%$!
website to let me download the driver :-X
You might fare better than I:-
http://support.advantech.com.tw/support/DownloadSRDetail.aspx?SR_ID=1-EO41P3Doc_Source=Download

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Re: AMD 'cool quiet' stopped working in squeeze (and lenny?)

2010-09-26 Thread Paul E Condon

On 20100925_224627, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
 Paul E Condon put forth on 9/25/2010 7:58 PM:
 
  Thanks, but ...
 
 Paul you're hardware handicapped.  :(  All the modern Asus boards (and
 many others) have the Qfan-2 feature which controls fan speed based on
 user configurable BIOS settings.  Apparently you never read your
 motherboard manual.  You need no OS level software to control the fan speed.
 
 You can whine over it worked but now it doesn't, and why is that? or
 you can simply go into your BIOS and set it the way you want and be done
 with it.
 
 Your case is but one of many reasons I've have scolded this industry for
 many years WRT OS/application level control of hardware features such as
 voltages, frequencies, and fan speeds.  If the hardware and/or BIOS are
 designed properly, there is no need for application software level controls.
 
 Pull out your mobo manual and solve your problem.

Thanks, Stan. 

YOU solved my problem. I knew I was missing something, but my search
was defective and I wasn't finding what I needed. You gave the clue
of the marketing name of the feature that I wanted to control. The
manual has no index and the TOC does not mention Qfan. I had already
done what I thought was an exhaustive search of the manual, so this
time I decided to do a depth first walk of the selection tree in the
BIOS user interface. This worked for me.

After finding the control for Qfan in the seletion tree, I managed to
find it in the paper manual.

I also don't like the way the industry presents its products to its
customers, but I doubt that any suggestion that I might make would
deserve to be taken seriously.

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Netbook Potential

2010-09-26 Thread Greg Heilers

Can anyone provide any opinions about the following contraption?:
http://www.eglobalwireless.com/p-4333-new-7-mini-netbook-laptop-notebook-wifi-windows-black.aspx

Has it any Linux potential?  At this retail, it is almost disposable.

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Re: [bash] script (redirect output) to file and email

2010-09-26 Thread Lorenzo Beretta


Il 24/09/2010 22:10, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ha scritto:

In20100924141439.gn15...@wasteland.homelinux.net, Jochen Schulz wrote:

Enrico Weigelt:

 do_rm() {
while read FILE ; do rm -fr $FILE ; done
 }


That won't work with spaces in filenames. :) find … -exec or find …
-print0 | xargs -0 are the best ways to do this. Apart from find …
-delete which I regularly forget. :)


Actually, that *will* work with spaces in the filenames[1], since the shell
built-in read doesn't stop until end of line.  There are some other, even less
common, characters that can confuse read though: '\', '', and NL.


No, it won't.
Look at rm -fr $FILE -- $FILE isn't quoted ;D


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Re: A question about mixing releases

2010-09-26 Thread Aniruddha

On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 1:08 PM, Sven Joachim svenj...@gmx.de wrote:
 Thanks, with this Pin-Priority packages that you install from unstable
 will be updated automatically from there as long as they don't migrate
 to testing.  This is probably what you want, but if you would like to
 avoid it, you could set unstable's Pin-Priority to a value  100 (100 is
 the priority of installed versions).

Thanks for the help!


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Re: Netbook Potential

On Sun, 26 Sep 2010 10:34:01 -0500
Greg Heilers heilers.g...@gmail.com wrote:

 Can anyone provide any opinions about the following contraption?:
 http://www.eglobalwireless.com/p-4333-new-7-mini-netbook-laptop-notebook-wifi-windows-black.aspx
 
 Has it any Linux potential?  At this retail, it is almost disposable.

Its ARM based and comes with windows CE, people seem to have managed to
get linux onto it [1]

But, as these kind of devices generally have no (normal and able
to boot from USB) BIOS, and just load the OS right from ROM they can be
horrid to get alternative OS's on.

There are quite a few different ones around, if you can find one that
is already running some kind of Linux, getting debian on there wouldn’t
be so hard ;)

 Thanks
 
snippy

[1]http://devio.us/~nextvolume/via_arm/viewtopic.php?id=4t_id=41

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Re: Netbook Potential

On Sun, 26 Sep 2010 10:34:01 -0500, Greg Heilers wrote:

 Can anyone provide any opinions about the following contraption?:
 http://www.eglobalwireless.com/p-4333-new-7-mini-netbook-laptop-
notebook-wifi-windows-black.aspx
 
 Has it any Linux potential?  At this retail, it is almost disposable.

There is a long thread about this arm based netbook (I think is the same 
model) you may find interesting:

Linux on 7 mini netbook ARM-VT8500 ?
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1349626

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Re: Netbook Potential

On Sun, 26 Sep 2010 10:34:01 -0500
Greg Heilers heilers.g...@gmail.com wrote:

 Can anyone provide any opinions about the following contraption?:
 http://www.eglobalwireless.com/p-4333-new-7-mini-netbook-laptop-notebook-wifi-windows-black.aspx

 Has it any Linux potential?  At this retail, it is almost disposable.

Sorry for the double post, but i found this [1] which seems to be a
linux distro aimed at the cpu in that smartbook/notebook/somethingbook

[1]http://projectgus.com/files/abrasive_mirror/wm8505_linux/

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Xorg error with 2.6.32-5 kernel

2010-09-26 Thread Manu Krishnan T.V


 Hi,

I was using Squeeze for a while and recently updated my Kernel to 
2.6.32-5. Since then, the graphics won't start. The system is working 
fine with the older kernel.

The Xorg log shows the following error when using the new kernal.

   (II) intel: Driver for Intel Integrated Graphics Chipsets: i810,
i810-dc100, i810e, i815, i830M, 845G, 854, 852GM/855GM, 865G, 915G,
E7221 (i915), 915GM, 945G, 945GM, 945GME, Pineview GM, Pineview G,
965G, G35, 965Q, 946GZ, 965GM, 965GME/GLE, G33, Q35, Q33, GM45,
4 Series, G45/G43, Q45/Q43, G41, B43, B43, Clarkdale, Arrandale,
Sandybridge, Sandybridge, Sandybridge, Sandybridge, Sandybridge,
Sandybridge, Sandybridge
   (II) Primary Device is: PCI 0...@00:02:0
   (EE) intel(0): No kernel modesetting driver detected.
   (II) UnloadModule: intel
   (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.

   Fatal server error:
   no screens found

Can someone help me to get out of this?
The complete log and dmesg are at 
http://aeneous.coolwrks.com/tvm/log-20100926/


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Re (3): configuration of subordinate interface in a bridge; was Linux hub

2010-09-26 Thread peasthope

From:   Chris Bannister mockingbird earthlight co nz
Date:   Sat, 25 Sep 2010 23:29:08 +1200
 Well, it is a wiki! If you feel the content is incorrect/misleading
 please correct it.

I understand about wiki documentation but my understanding of 
network bridging is superficial.  What if I am missing a point 
in the wiki page?  Better not to be a fool rushing in.

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Re: Xorg error with 2.6.32-5 kernel

2010-09-26 Thread Axel Freyn

Hi,
On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 11:35:51PM +0530, Manu Krishnan T.V wrote:
 I was using Squeeze for a while and recently updated my Kernel to  
 2.6.32-5. Since then, the graphics won't start. The system is working  
 fine with the older kernel.
 The Xorg log shows the following error when using the new kernal.

 [...]
(EE) intel(0): No kernel modesetting driver detected.
 [...]
Based on this error message, I would assume: The driver needs
Kernel-based Modesetting to be enabled, however it is disabled in the
new kernel.
If that is the case, I think you have to actived it in the kernel... (or
maybe there is a way how you can switch it off completely in the
X11-driver?)

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Re: Comments on proposed partitioning scheme

2010-09-26 Thread Celejar

On Sat, 25 Sep 2010 23:29:28 +0200
Aniruddha mailingdotl...@gmail.com wrote:

 Here's my opinion:

...

 * I think encryption is not well suited for a desktop system, unless
 you have some special need for it (e.g. laptop). It creates extra
 overhead, meaning it is a lot slower then a normal file system + it
 makes disaster recovery more difficult.

I'm not sure that an encrypted filesystem is really a lot slower than
a normal file system on modern HW.  Do you have benchmarks or
references?

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Re: lilo config is busted, need help fixing it

On Sat, 25 Sep 2010 12:28:00 -0400 (EDT)
Stephen Powell zlinux...@wowway.com wrote:

 On Sat, 25 Sep 2010 03:40:04 -0400 (EDT), bri...@aracnet.com wrote:
 I'm also going to need
 to see the output of the following commands:
 
ls -Al /dev/disk/by-id/


lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  9 Sep 26 18:12 ata-WDC_WD2500YS-01SHB0_WD-WCANY2148692 
- ../../sda
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Sep 26 18:12 
ata-WDC_WD2500YS-01SHB0_WD-WCANY2148692-part1 - ../../sda1
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Sep 26 18:12 
ata-WDC_WD2500YS-01SHB0_WD-WCANY2148692-part2 - ../../sda2
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Sep 26 18:12 
ata-WDC_WD2500YS-01SHB0_WD-WCANY2148692-part3 - ../../sda3
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Sep 26 18:12 
ata-WDC_WD2500YS-01SHB0_WD-WCANY2148692-part4 - ../../sda4
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  9 Sep 26 18:12 
scsi-SATA_WDC_WD2500YS-01_WD-WCANY2148692 - ../../sda
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Sep 26 18:12 
scsi-SATA_WDC_WD2500YS-01_WD-WCANY2148692-part1 - ../../sda1
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Sep 26 18:12 
scsi-SATA_WDC_WD2500YS-01_WD-WCANY2148692-part2 - ../../sda2
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Sep 26 18:12 
scsi-SATA_WDC_WD2500YS-01_WD-WCANY2148692-part3 - ../../sda3
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Sep 26 18:12 
scsi-SATA_WDC_WD2500YS-01_WD-WCANY2148692-part4 - ../../sda4
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  9 Sep 26 18:12 
usb-SanDisk_CF_SDDR-189_2008102301130-0:3 - ../../sde
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  9 Sep 26 18:12 
usb-SanDisk_mSD_SDDR-189_2008102301130-0:0 - ../../sdb
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  9 Sep 26 18:12 
usb-SanDisk_MSxDSDDR-189_2008102301130-0:2 - ../../sdd
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  9 Sep 26 18:12
usb-SanDisk_SD_SDDR-189_2008102301130-0:1 - ../../sdc



ls -Al /dev/disk/by-uuid/
 

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Sep 26 18:12 4b764501-da53-4323-a751-3da37d7e2a91 - 
../../sda3
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Sep 26 18:12 558d7790-5914-494d-938f-3387296eed45 - 
../../sda4
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Sep 26 18:12 9EFC3C45FC3C1A4B - ../../sda1
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Sep 26 18:12
a948d6b6-8395-49a1-9f0f-21a10ceee9c2 - ../../sda2


So there's something going on with the swap partition (/dev/sda4).  I must have 
had an aborted resume from hibernate mode or something (don't remember doing 
it).

either way, not good.

  It seems like I have two different problems.  I have a lilo entry
  that doesn't work at all and another one which dumps me into this
  resume nonsense.
 

 ERROR!  No initial RAM disk specified!  Add:
 
initrd=/boot/initrd.img
 

ok.

 ERROR! No initial RAM disk image.  Add:
 
initrd=/boot/initrd.img.old

ok.

  /etc/kernel-img.conf
  
 
 Where is it?  I need to see the contents of that file.
 It's very important.
 

# Kernel image management overrides
# See kernel-img.conf(5) for details
do_symlinks = no
relative_links = yes
do_bootloader = no
do_bootfloppy = no
do_initrd = yes
link_in_boot = yes
postinst_hook = lilo-update
postrm_hook = lilo-update

I haven't gone through the rest of the changes yet.  Working on that right now.

Brian


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Re: lilo config is busted, need help fixing it

On Sat, 25 Sep 2010 12:28:00 -0400 (EDT)
Stephen Powell zlinux...@wowway.com wrote:

 
 Several problems here.  S30initramfs, S50symlink_hook,
 K30initramfs, and K50symlink_hook, though they will still
 work, I now consider obsolete.  S30initramfs and K30initramfs
 were made obsolete by newer versions of the initramfs-tools
 package.  The initramfs-tools hook scripts appear to be missing.
 And you have a couple of scripts called initramfs-tools.dpkg-dist.
 Are they renamed versions of initramfs-tools?  Are they the current
 versions of them?  I would erase S30initramfs, K30initramfs,
 and both copies of initramfs-tools.dpkg-dist, and reinstall
 the latest version of the initramfs-tools package.  This should
 install a script called initramfs-tools in both /etc/kernel/postinst.d
 and /etc/kernel/postrm.d.

All done.  I am now running the latest lilo:

ii  lilo
1:22.8-8.3 LInux LOader - The Classic OS loader can
load Linux and others

however:

Setting up linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64 (2.6.32-23) ...
Running depmod.
Running update-initramfs.
update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-5-amd64
Running lilo-update.
User postinst hook script [lilo-update] failed to execute: No such file
or directory dpkg: error processing linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64
(--configure): subprocess installed post-installation script returned
error exit status 255 configured to not write apport reports
  Errors were encountered while
processing: linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)



 
 I also don't see any zz-lilo hook scripts, which the latest version
 of lilo would have installed.  Reinstall the latest version of lilo.
 This should also install a file in /etc/initramfs/post-update.d called
 lilo or runlilo, depending on which version of lilo you are running.
 Then remove S50symlink_hook and K50symlink_hook.  Finally, install
 the two zy-symlinks hook scripts available on my web site, one for
 /etc/kernel/postinst.d and one for /etc/kernel/postrm.d.  Then make
 sure that
 

Yes the zz scripts are there now.

However it looks like the lilo install is borked.

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Re: Comments on proposed partitioning scheme

2010-09-26 Thread tv.deb...@googlemail.com

Le 26/09/2010 21:02, Celejar wrote:
 On Sat, 25 Sep 2010 23:29:28 +0200
 Aniruddha mailingdotl...@gmail.com wrote:

 Here's my opinion:

 ...

 * I think encryption is not well suited for a desktop system, unless
 you have some special need for it (e.g. laptop). It creates extra
 overhead, meaning it is a lot slower then a normal file system + it
 makes disaster recovery more difficult.

 I'm not sure that an encrypted filesystem is really a lot slower than
 a normal file system on modern HW.  Do you have benchmarks or
 references?

 Celejar


Phoronix.com has some tests on a low specs Eee and a high end ThinkPad
W510 :

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=articleitem=intel_atom_disknum=1

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=articleitem=ubuntu_maverick_encryptionnum=1



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Can't Install Packages in Batch Mode

2010-09-26 Thread Hal Vaughan

I have a bash script with the following in it:

DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive
apt-get install $install

From what I've read, this should set the front end for debconf to 
non-interactive and should go on ahead with the install I've set up with a list 
of packages to install.  Everything else in the script works, but as much as 
I've played with this (like changing DEBIAN_FRONTEND to DEBCONF_FRONTEND), I 
can't get it to work.  I saw one example (from this list, 2-3 years ago) that 
put it all on one line, but that didn't work either.

Do I have to set the environment variable before running the script?  What do I 
need to do to be able to install packages?  (There's only one question asked in 
all these packages and it's a config issue I handle separately anyway.)


Thanks for any help with this!



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Re: ext3 file system

2010-09-26 Thread Chris Davies

Josef Huber josef-hu...@gmx.net wrote:
 Yes, that's quite annoying: I had a similar problem once, because of
 hibernation with lenny and xp. Later I had to find out that if you use
 only Linux-OSs, the problem occurs as well. Why there isn't any warning
 with the file system not being saved correctly - I would really like to
 know that!

What? Of course it can't work. Hibernation suspends the OS in a state
from which it can continue later. Quite correctly it doesn't unmount
filesystems, as this would close all open file descriptors on that file
system. This in turn could en up killing processes - quite possibly
including your session and maybe all system daemons. Now you're in a
state where you might as well have restarted from scratch, negating all
the advantages of suspend/hibernation.

If you want to use the same filesystem between any two OS installations
(whether Linux and Linux, or Windows and Linux, or any other combination)
you must not (and cannot) use hibernation unless you first unmount the
relevant filesystems.

Chris


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Re: [bash] script (redirect output) to file and email

2010-09-26 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.

In 4c9f6907$0$18650$4fafb...@reader3.news.tin.it, Lorenzo Beretta wrote:
Il 24/09/2010 22:10, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ha scritto:
 In20100924141439.gn15...@wasteland.homelinux.net, Jochen Schulz wrote:
 Enrico Weigelt:
  do_rm() {

while read FILE ; do rm -fr $FILE ; done

  }
 
 That won't work with spaces in filenames.
 
 Actually, that *will* work with spaces in the filenames[1], since the
 shell built-in read doesn't stop until end of line.

No, it won't.
Look at rm -fr $FILE -- $FILE isn't quoted ;D

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Re: Proposal of Fluxbox styles for Debian

2010-09-26 Thread Phil Requirements

On 2010-09-26 22:04:53 +0930, Dale wrote:
 
 If anyone knows the author(s) of the said wallpaper images used in the
 screen shots, could you please let me know so I can add credit to them
 in the style source(s), As the images are included in the current
 version of Fluxbox 1.1.1+dfsg2-1.
 

Dale,

Did you look at the file '/usr/share/doc/fluxbox/AUTHORS'? I don't have
fluxbox installed myself, so I can't check it. But it might list the
people who made the previous themes. And whoever made the themes might
know who made the backgrounds, or they may have made the backgrounds.

You may have already tried this approach, since it is pretty basic.

Phil


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Card reader stopped working after update

2010-09-26 Thread Veronica Brandt

Hi,

I have an acer aspire one and use the card reader for /home/.  I updated the
computer Saturday (squeeze) and now booting the computer the card reader is
not recognised.

I have a bug here and I don't know which package is to blame.  My first
thought was the kernel, but the kernel is the same.  Something else is
fouling up the modules.  I'm running  2.6.32-3-686 and tried updating to
2.6.32-5-686, but the problem is still the same.


lspci:

04:00.0 System peripheral: JMicron Technology Corp. SD/MMC Host Controller
04:00.2 SD Host controller: JMicron Technology Corp. Standard SD Host
Controller
04:00.3 System peripheral: JMicron Technology Corp. MS Host Controller
04:00.4 System peripheral: JMicron Technology Corp. xD Host Controller

lsmod | grep sd and then mmc:

sd_mod 25869  2
crc_t10dif  1012  1 sd_mod
scsi_mod  101401  2 sd_mod,libata
mmc_core   38491  0


and the error message in dmesg:

[3.811446] sdhci_pci: Unknown symbol sdhci_remove_host
[3.937701] sdhci_pci: Unknown symbol sdhci_suspend_host
[3.938338] sdhci_pci: Unknown symbol sdhci_free_host
[3.938652] sdhci_pci: Unknown symbol sdhci_add_host
[3.939065] sdhci_pci: Unknown symbol sdhci_resume_host
[3.939440] sdhci_pci: Unknown symbol sdhci_alloc_host
[3.939927] sdhci_pci: Unknown symbol sdhci_remove_host


 sudo modprobe sdhci
sh: Syntax error: Bad for loop variable
FATAL: Error running install command for sdhci

modprobe sdricoh_cs gives no error but makes no difference

So does anyone else have a lead I can chase up?

Thanks

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Re: lilo config is busted, need help fixing it

2010-09-26 Thread Stephen Powell

On Sun, 26 Sep 2010 22:14:29 -0400 (EDT), bri...@aracnet.com wrote:
 On Sat, 25 Sep 2010 12:28:00 -0400 (EDT), Stephen Powell wrote:
 I'm also going to need
 to see the output of the following commands:
 
ls -Al /dev/disk/by-id/
 
 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  9 Sep 26 18:12 
 ata-WDC_WD2500YS-01SHB0_WD-WCANY2148692 - ../../sda
 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Sep 26 18:12 
 ata-WDC_WD2500YS-01SHB0_WD-WCANY2148692-part1 - ../../sda1
 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Sep 26 18:12 
 ata-WDC_WD2500YS-01SHB0_WD-WCANY2148692-part2 - ../../sda2
 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Sep 26 18:12 
 ata-WDC_WD2500YS-01SHB0_WD-WCANY2148692-part3 - ../../sda3
 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Sep 26 18:12 
 ata-WDC_WD2500YS-01SHB0_WD-WCANY2148692-part4 - ../../sda4
 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  9 Sep 26 18:12 
 scsi-SATA_WDC_WD2500YS-01_WD-WCANY2148692 - ../../sda
 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Sep 26 18:12 
 scsi-SATA_WDC_WD2500YS-01_WD-WCANY2148692-part1 - ../../sda1
 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Sep 26 18:12 
 scsi-SATA_WDC_WD2500YS-01_WD-WCANY2148692-part2 - ../../sda2
 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Sep 26 18:12 
 scsi-SATA_WDC_WD2500YS-01_WD-WCANY2148692-part3 - ../../sda3
 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Sep 26 18:12 
 scsi-SATA_WDC_WD2500YS-01_WD-WCANY2148692-part4 - ../../sda4
 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  9 Sep 26 18:12 
 usb-SanDisk_CF_SDDR-189_2008102301130-0:3 - ../../sde
 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  9 Sep 26 18:12 
 usb-SanDisk_mSD_SDDR-189_2008102301130-0:0 - ../../sdb
 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  9 Sep 26 18:12 
 usb-SanDisk_MSxDSDDR-189_2008102301130-0:2 - ../../sdd
 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  9 Sep 26 18:12 
 usb-SanDisk_SD_SDDR-189_2008102301130-0:1 - ../../sdc

ls -Al /dev/disk/by-uuid/
 
 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Sep 26 18:12 4b764501-da53-4323-a751-3da37d7e2a91 
 - ../../sda3
 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Sep 26 18:12 558d7790-5914-494d-938f-3387296eed45 
 - ../../sda4
 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Sep 26 18:12 9EFC3C45FC3C1A4B - ../../sda1
 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Sep 26 18:12 a948d6b6-8395-49a1-9f0f-21a10ceee9c2 
 - ../../sda2
 
 So there's something going on with the swap partition (/dev/sda4).
 I must have had an aborted resume from hibernate mode or something (don't 
 remember doing it).
 
 either way, not good.

 ERROR!  No initial RAM disk specified!  Add:
 
initrd=/boot/initrd.img
 
 
 ok.

 ERROR! No initial RAM disk image.  Add:
 
initrd=/boot/initrd.img.old
 
 ok.

 /etc/kernel-img.conf
 
 
 Where is it?  I need to see the contents of that file.
 It's very important.
 
 
 # Kernel image management overrides
 # See kernel-img.conf(5) for details
 do_symlinks = no
 relative_links = yes
 do_bootloader = no
 do_bootfloppy = no
 do_initrd = yes
 link_in_boot = yes
 postinst_hook = lilo-update
 postrm_hook = lilo-update

You need to remove those last two lines, the ones that have
lilo-update in them.  At one time I recommended this for squeeze
users that use only stock kernels, but I don't anymore.  Besides,
either you didn't write a corresponding lilo-update script or
it got deleted somehow.  Either way, you need to get rid of those
two lines in /etc/kernel-img.conf.
 
 I haven't gone through the rest of the changes yet.  Working on that right 
 now.

Also, in /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume, the file should reference
the swap partition, not the root partition, either directly or via a UUID.
Older versions of the Debian installer contained a version of mkswap that
did not assign a UUID.  Also, if you install another operating system
in another partition, such as Ubuntu, it may reformat the swap partition,
which will change its UUID.  You can either use

RESUME=/dev/sda4

or

RESUME=UUID=558d7790-5914-494d-938f-3387296eed45

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Re: Can't Install Packages in Batch Mode

2010-09-26 Thread Hal Vaughan


On Sep 26, 2010, at 5:08 PM, Hal Vaughan wrote:

 I have a bash script with the following in it:
 
   DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive
   apt-get install $install
 
 From what I've read, this should set the front end for debconf to 
 non-interactive and should go on ahead with the install I've set up with a 
 list of packages to install.  Everything else in the script works, but as 
 much as I've played with this (like changing DEBIAN_FRONTEND to 
 DEBCONF_FRONTEND), I can't get it to work.  I saw one example (from this 
 list, 2-3 years ago) that put it all on one line, but that didn't work 
 either.
 
 Do I have to set the environment variable before running the script?  What do 
 I need to do to be able to install packages?  (There's only one question 
 asked in all these packages and it's a config issue I handle separately 
 anyway.)
 
 
 Thanks for any help with this!

I have no idea what made the difference, but I re-typed the lines and re-tried 
and it worked.  I had copied the lines (other than the $install variable) 
directly from an example.  When it didn't work, I tried cutting and pasting 
from another example and it didn't work, but when I entered it by typing 
directly, it worked.

Probably a typo that I couldn't catch with my learning disability or something.


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Re: lilo config is busted, need help fixing it

2010-09-26 Thread Stephen Powell

On Sun, 26 Sep 2010 22:29:34 -0400 (EDT), bri...@aracnet.com wrote:
On Sat, 25 Sep 2010 12:28:00 -0400 (EDT), Stephen Powell wrote:

Several problems here. S30initramfs, S50symlink_hook,
K30initramfs, and K50symlink_hook, though they will still
work, I now consider obsolete. S30initramfs and K30initramfs
were made obsolete by newer versions of the initramfs-tools
package. The initramfs-tools hook scripts appear to be missing.
And you have a couple of scripts called initramfs-tools.dpkg-dist.
Are they renamed versions of initramfs-tools? Are they the current
versions of them? I would erase S30initramfs, K30initramfs,
and both copies of initramfs-tools.dpkg-dist, and reinstall
the latest version of the initramfs-tools package. This should
install a script called initramfs-tools in both /etc/kernel/postinst.d
and /etc/kernel/postrm.d.

All done. I am now running the latest lilo:

ii lilo
1:22.8-8.3 LInux LOader - The Classic OS loader can
load Linux and others

however:

Setting up linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64 (2.6.32-23) ...
Running depmod.
Running update-initramfs.
update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-5-amd64
Running lilo-update.
User postinst hook script [lilo-update] failed to execute: No such file
or directory dpkg: error processing linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64
(--configure): subprocess installed post-installation script returned
error exit status 255 configured to not write apport reports
Errors were encountered while
processing: linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)

As I indicated in my previous post, you need to remove those last
two lines from /etc/kernel-img.conf, the ones which have lilo-update
in them. That will solve the above problem.

I also don't see any zz-lilo hook scripts, which the latest version
of lilo would have installed. Reinstall the latest version of lilo.
This should also install a file in /etc/initramfs/post-update.d called
lilo or runlilo, depending on which version of lilo you are running.
Then remove S50symlink_hook and K50symlink_hook. Finally, install
the two zy-symlinks hook scripts available on my web site, one for
/etc/kernel/postinst.d and one for /etc/kernel/postrm.d. Then make
sure that
...

Yes the zz scripts are there now.

Good. Don't forget the zy-symlinks hook scripts and to delete the
other ones and to install the latest initramfs-tools package, and
to make sure that

do_symlinks = no

is set in /etc/kernel-img.conf.

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Re: Xorg error with 2.6.32-5 kernel

2010-09-26 Thread Stephen Powell

On Sun, 26 Sep 2010 14:05:51 -0400 (EDT), Manu Krishnan T.V wrote:
 
 I was using Squeeze for a while and recently updated my Kernel to 
 2.6.32-5. Since then, the graphics won't start. The system is working 
 fine with the older kernel.
 The Xorg log shows the following error when using the new kernal.
 
 (II) intel: Driver for Intel Integrated Graphics Chipsets: i810,
  i810-dc100, i810e, i815, i830M, 845G, 854, 852GM/855GM, 865G, 915G,
  E7221 (i915), 915GM, 945G, 945GM, 945GME, Pineview GM, Pineview G,
  965G, G35, 965Q, 946GZ, 965GM, 965GME/GLE, G33, Q35, Q33, GM45,
  4 Series, G45/G43, Q45/Q43, G41, B43, B43, Clarkdale, Arrandale,
  Sandybridge, Sandybridge, Sandybridge, Sandybridge, Sandybridge,
  Sandybridge, Sandybridge
 (II) Primary Device is: PCI 0...@00:02:0
 (EE) intel(0): No kernel modesetting driver detected.
 (II) UnloadModule: intel
 (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.
 
 Fatal server error:
 no screens found
 
 Can someone help me to get out of this?
 The complete log and dmesg are at 
 http://aeneous.coolwrks.com/tvm/log-20100926/

Look in directory /etc/modprobe.d for a file called i915-kms.conf.
Look at the contents of that file.  Does it say

   options i915 modeset=0

If so, change the 0 to 1 and file it, then shutdown and reboot.
If no such file exists, then create it, specifying modeset as 1.

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Re: video card reccomendation

2010-09-26 Thread Enrico Weigelt

* Rick Pasotto r...@niof.net schrieb:
 I need to get an agp video card so take the video load off the regular
 bus. Also my new monitor has 1600x900 resolution and the openchrome
 driver doesn't recognize that resolution. I don't play games, so it's
 mostly for text, web, and an occasional video file.

Don't buy Nvidia. They're totally reluctant against OSS, and their
binary-only drivers are simply crap (dont want to flame on their
bad coding practises here ;-o).

Those companies IMHO don't deserve a single penny.


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Re: lilo config is busted, need help fixing it

On Sun, 26 Sep 2010 19:51:12 -0400 (EDT)
Stephen Powell zlinux...@wowway.com wrote:

  # Kernel image management overrides
  # See kernel-img.conf(5) for details
  do_symlinks = no
  relative_links = yes
  do_bootloader = no
  do_bootfloppy = no
  do_initrd = yes
  link_in_boot = yes
  postinst_hook = lilo-update
  postrm_hook = lilo-update
 
 You need to remove those last two lines, the ones that have
 lilo-update in them.  At one time I recommended this for squeeze
 users that use only stock kernels, but I don't anymore.  Besides,
 either you didn't write a corresponding lilo-update script or
 it got deleted somehow.  Either way, you need to get rid of those
 two lines in /etc/kernel-img.conf.
  

done.  that explains the errors.  that's the problem with this stuff is
unwinding the call stack.

Is there a magic option to pass apt-get or dpkg which will produce more
verbose output ?

Didn't see anything obvious in the manpage except for the quiet
 parameter.


  I haven't gone through the rest of the changes yet.  Working on
  that right now.
 
 Also, in /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume, the file should reference
 the swap partition, not the root partition, either directly or via a
 UUID. Older versions of the Debian installer contained a version of
 mkswap that did not assign a UUID.  Also, if you install another
 operating system in another partition, such as Ubuntu, it may
 reformat the swap partition, which will change its UUID.  You can
 either use
 
 RESUME=/dev/sda4
 
 or
 
 RESUME=UUID=558d7790-5914-494d-938f-3387296eed45
 


I'm not use if it makes a difference, but that file was referencing the
uuid, so I changed it to point at /dev/sda, simply to be consistent
with my fstab and lilo.conf.

my guess is that it will break if I put another disk drive in, right ?

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Re: lilo config is busted, need help fixing it

On Sun, 26 Sep 2010 20:01:36 -0400 (EDT)
Stephen Powell zlinux...@wowway.com wrote:

  I also don't see any zz-lilo hook scripts, which the latest version
  of lilo would have installed.  Reinstall the latest version of
  lilo. This should also install a file
  in /etc/initramfs/post-update.d called lilo or runlilo, depending
  on which version of lilo you are running. Then remove
  S50symlink_hook and K50symlink_hook.  Finally, install the two
  zy-symlinks hook scripts available on my web site, one
  for /etc/kernel/postinst.d and one for /etc/kernel/postrm.d.  Then
  make sure that ... 
  
  Yes the zz scripts are there now.
 
 Good.  Don't forget the zy-symlinks hook scripts and to delete the
 other ones and to install the latest initramfs-tools package, and
 to make sure that

done.

 
do_symlinks = no
 
 is set in /etc/kernel-img.conf.
 

ok.


and. IT WORKS !

Talking to you from a freshly booted machine :-)

First time it's booted properly in quite sometime.

I'm not really clear on what exactly fixed things, although those
missing initrd lines were probably key.

Thank you very much for your help !  I _really_ appreciate it.

Now that it's working I can go back to try and create a custom
kernel :-)



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Re: video card reccomendation

On Sun, 26 Sep 2010 16:46:38 +0200
Enrico Weigelt weig...@metux.de wrote:

 * Rick Pasotto r...@niof.net schrieb:
  I need to get an agp video card so take the video load off the
  regular bus. Also my new monitor has 1600x900 resolution and the
  openchrome driver doesn't recognize that resolution. I don't play
  games, so it's mostly for text, web, and an occasional video file.
 
 Don't buy Nvidia. They're totally reluctant against OSS, and their
 binary-only drivers are simply crap (dont want to flame on their
 bad coding practises here ;-o).
 
 Those companies IMHO don't deserve a single penny.
 

I quite agree.  So maybe a good question is: who makes a video card
that supports _decent_ 3D performance that has open source drivers ?

Because AFAIK, no one does.

It's quite irritating and extends to lots of hardware.


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Re: video card reccomendation

2010-09-26 Thread Andrew Reid

On Sunday 26 September 2010 10:46:38 Enrico Weigelt wrote:
 * Rick Pasotto r...@niof.net schrieb:
  I need to get an agp video card so take the video load off the regular
  bus. Also my new monitor has 1600x900 resolution and the openchrome
  driver doesn't recognize that resolution. I don't play games, so it's
  mostly for text, web, and an occasional video file.

 Don't buy Nvidia. They're totally reluctant against OSS, and their
 binary-only drivers are simply crap (dont want to flame on their
 bad coding practises here ;-o).

 Those companies IMHO don't deserve a single penny.

  I agree that nVidia's attitude towards open source is a problem.
  
  However, my experience with their binary drivers has been quite
good.  They're reasonably easy to install, and seem to perform
quite well for me.  In particular, they have one of the best 
distribution-agnostic binary-blob installers I've ever run across.

  As a Debian user, when I do have to resort to binary/proprietary
software, having it only available as RPMs just adds salt to the
wound.  (Don't get me started about the older Intel C/C++ compiler
installers...)

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Re: video card reccomendation

2010-09-26 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.

In 20100926182947.30489...@windy.deldotd.com, bri...@aracnet.com wrote:
On Sun, 26 Sep 2010 16:46:38 +0200
Enrico Weigelt weig...@metux.de wrote:
 * Rick Pasotto r...@niof.net schrieb:
  I need to get an agp video card so take the video load off the
  regular bus.
 
 Don't buy Nvidia. They're totally reluctant against OSS.
 
 Those companies IMHO don't deserve a single penny.

I quite agree.  So maybe a good question is: who makes a video card
that supports _decent_ 3D performance that has open source drivers ?

ATI Radeon HD 4670 is the current king of 3D performance with an Free Software 
X11 driver.  Or, it was last time I checked http://free3d.org/.

Since ATI was acquired by AMD, they have made great strides in the quality of 
the Free Software drivers.  I've not yet owned one (stuck with my Nividious 
7800 GTXs), though.

I have seen the ATI Radeon Mobility 4650 in action and the hardware performs 
the games I like to play (StarCraft II) quite well.  The 4670 is fairly cheap 
right now if you can find one.

I also have good hopes for the 5xxx line, as the AMD engineers are already 
working with the X.org contributors.
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Re: video card reccomendation

On Sun, 26 Sep 2010 21:40:48 -0400
Andrew Reid rei...@bellatlantic.net wrote:

 On Sunday 26 September 2010 10:46:38 Enrico Weigelt wrote:
  * Rick Pasotto r...@niof.net schrieb:
   I need to get an agp video card so take the video load off the
   regular bus. Also my new monitor has 1600x900 resolution and the
   openchrome driver doesn't recognize that resolution. I don't play
   games, so it's mostly for text, web, and an occasional video file.
 
  Don't buy Nvidia. They're totally reluctant against OSS, and their
  binary-only drivers are simply crap (dont want to flame on their
  bad coding practises here ;-o).
 
  Those companies IMHO don't deserve a single penny.
 
   I agree that nVidia's attitude towards open source is a problem.
   
   However, my experience with their binary drivers has been quite
 good.  They're reasonably easy to install, and seem to perform
 quite well for me.  In particular, they have one of the best 
 distribution-agnostic binary-blob installers I've ever run across.
 

I'll have to second that.  I'm running two different machines, running
two different nvidia cards, and things have been quite stable.

Don't have to like it, but credit where credit is due.


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Re: video card reccomendation

On Sun, 26 Sep 2010 20:44:22 -0500
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. b...@iguanasuicide.net wrote:

 In 20100926182947.30489...@windy.deldotd.com, bri...@aracnet.com
 wrote:
 On Sun, 26 Sep 2010 16:46:38 +0200
 Enrico Weigelt weig...@metux.de wrote:
  * Rick Pasotto r...@niof.net schrieb:
   I need to get an agp video card so take the video load off the
   regular bus.
  
  Don't buy Nvidia. They're totally reluctant against OSS.
  
  Those companies IMHO don't deserve a single penny.
 
 I quite agree.  So maybe a good question is: who makes a video card
 that supports _decent_ 3D performance that has open source drivers ?
 
 ATI Radeon HD 4670 is the current king of 3D performance with an Free
 Software X11 driver.  Or, it was last time I checked
 http://free3d.org/.
 
 Since ATI was acquired by AMD, they have made great strides in the
 quality of the Free Software drivers.  I've not yet owned one (stuck
 with my Nividious 7800 GTXs), though.
 
 I have seen the ATI Radeon Mobility 4650 in action and the hardware
 performs the games I like to play (StarCraft II) quite well.  The
 4670 is fairly cheap right now if you can find one.
 
 I also have good hopes for the 5xxx line, as the AMD engineers are
 already working with the X.org contributors.

They've got a long way to go.  I haven't use ATI in years because their
WINDOWS drivers were so unbelievably unstable...

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Re: Slow sendmail start up

2010-09-26 Thread T o n g

On Sat, 25 Sep 2010 14:17:11 +, Camaleón wrote:

 There is an extremely long delay when sendmail first start up, right
 when:
 
  Starting Mail Transport Agent (MTA): sendmail
 
 The googled answer that I get is to put in startic IP, or use full host
 name, but this is a live system. Is there any other way to solve it?
 
 (...)
 
 It seems to be a common issue (meaning: I also experience that delay
 with Exim).
 
 Check if that helps . . . 

Thanks a lot Camaleón, you really know how to search. :-)

On the not so light side of the issue, no, playing with the /etc/
resolv.conf setup didn't work for me. This is a live system, and I get 
IP from pump, which in turn tampers my well prepared /etc/resolv.conf 
file before MTA get started. 

Well, at least I have a solution -- reverting to full host name in /etc/
hosts  /etc/hostname, the ugliest solution, but the best I get so far...

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Re: AMD 'cool quiet' stopped working in squeeze (and lenny?)

2010-09-26 Thread Stan Hoeppner

Paul E Condon put forth on 9/26/2010 10:33 AM:

 I also don't like the way the industry presents its products to its
 customers, but I doubt that any suggestion that I might make would
 deserve to be taken seriously.

Case in point:  Buy any IBM server, whether it be a Z-Series mainframe,
P-Series, or X-Series, and there is no option in the BIOS or elsewhere
to change/control voltages, fan speeds, etc.  All of these things are
preprogrammed in hardware per engineering specifications.  If you're
running one of these systems within the environmental limits, 0-8500 ft
altitude and 40-85% humidity, non condensing, with power input within
the specified AC voltage range, the system will adjust internal voltages
and fan speeds automatically.  Period.  Pull two blades out of one of
their blade chassis and the fan speed increases automatically to
compensate for lost airflow over the other blades.  No software control
involved.  IBM wants it that way.  And that's the way it should be.  If
users were allowed to monkey with these settings, support calls and
warranty repairs go up because folks would overheat their machines in an
attempt to make them quieter, or similar.

Then you have consumer level machines/mobos whose manufacturers _want_
you to be able to tweak fan speeds and voltages, as a product
differentiator.  And you have Intel and MS who want to control
everything with a software driver as BIOS flashing for new features or
code revisions is a PITA compared to OS driver updates.

Again, if something is designed correctly to begin with, there is no
need for all this BS, OS level software for controlling these hardware
features.  At best it makes it easier for someone to OC their CPU/GPU.
At worst, it allows frying one's system.  In between, it merely causes
too much unnecessary confusion on the part of users not technically
qualified to be monkeying with such settings to begin with.

I'm not ranting at you Paul. :)  Just ranting at the sillyness of this
aspect of the industry.  If all fan controls were purely in
BIOS/hardware, you'd have never suffered this problem.

Anyway, glad I was able to help you find what you needed.

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I cannot remove readlines dep when building reiser4progs with dh.

Hi,
  I am trying to build a .udeb for reiser4progs. I got it source from
`apt-get source reiser4progs`. And modified the debian/control and
debian/rules files as below. But still, dh build configured with
readlines option. What should I do? Thanks.

~/reiser4progs-1.0.7$ more debian/control
Source: reiser4progs
Section: admin
Priority: optional
Maintainer: Felix Zielcke fziel...@z-51.de
DM-Upload-Allowed: yes
Build-Depends: debhelper (= 6), cdbs, libaal-dev (= 1.0.5-2),
libaal-dev ( 1.0.6), uuid-dev, autotools-dev
Standards-Version: 3.8.4

Package: reiser4progs-udeb
Architecture: any
XC-Package-Type: udeb
Depends: ${shlibs:Depends}, ${misc:Depends}
Description: administration utilities for the Reiser4 filesystem
 The following utilities to manage Reiser4 filesystems are provided:
 .
   - debugfs.reiser4
   - fsck.reiser4
   - measurefs.reiser4
   - mkfs.reiser4

~/reiser4progs-1.0.7$ more debian/rules
#! /usr/bin/make -f

# Uncomment this to turn on verbose mode.
#export DH_VERBOSE=1

SHELL   := bash

include /usr/share/cdbs/1/rules/debhelper.mk
include /usr/share/cdbs/1/rules/simple-patchsys.mk

# These are used for cross-compiling and for saving the configure script
# from having to guess our platform (since we know it already)
DEB_HOST_GNU_TYPE ?= $(shell dpkg-architecture -qDEB_HOST_GNU_TYPE)
DEB_BUILD_GNU_TYPE ?= $(shell dpkg-architecture -qDEB_BUILD_GNU_TYPE)

CFLAGS = -Wall -g

ifneq (,$(findstring noopt,$(DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS)))
CFLAGS += -O0
else
CFLAGS += -O2
endif
ifeq (,$(findstring nostrip,$(DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS)))
INSTALL_PROGRAM += -s
endif

CFLAGS += -I$(CURDIR)

CONFIGURE = CFLAGS=$(CFLAGS) $(CURDIR)/configure --host=$(DEB_HOST_GNU_TYPE) \
--build=$(DEB_BUILD_GNU_TYPE) \
--prefix=/usr \
--mandir=\$${prefix}/share/man \
--disable-shared \
--enable-libminimal

configure/mkreiser4-udeb configure/reiser4progs-udeb:: configure-udebs-stamp
configure-udebs-stamp::
mkdir -p $(CURDIR)/build/udebs
cd $(CURDIR)/build/udebs  $(CONFIGURE) --with-readline=no
touch $@

build/mkreiser4-udeb build/reiser4progs-udeb:: build-udebs-stamp
build-udebs-stamp::
$(MAKE) -C $(CURDIR)/build/udebs
touch $@

install/mkreiser4-udeb:: install-mkreiser4-udeb-stamp
install-mkreiser4-udeb-stamp::
$(MAKE) -C $(CURDIR)/build/udebs install
DESTDIR=$(CURDIR)/debian/mkreiser4-udeb/
mv $(CURDIR)/debian/mkreiser4-udeb/usr/sbin
$(CURDIR)/debian/mkreiser4-udeb/
rm -rf $(CURDIR)/debian/mkreiser4-udeb/sbin/make_reiser4
rm -rf $(CURDIR)/debian/mkreiser4-udeb/usr
rm -rf 
$(CURDIR)/debian/mkreiser4-udeb/sbin/{debugfs.reiser4,fsck.reiser4,measurefs.reiser4}

install/reiser4progs-udeb:: install-reiser4progs-udeb-stamp
install-reiser4progs-udeb-stamp::
$(MAKE) -C $(CURDIR)/build/udebs install
DESTDIR=$(CURDIR)/debian/reiser4progs-udeb/
mv $(CURDIR)/debian/reiser4progs-udeb/usr/sbin
$(CURDIR)/debian/reiser4progs-udeb/
rm -rf $(CURDIR)/debian/reiser4progs-udeb/sbin/make_reiser4
rm -rf $(CURDIR)/debian/reiser4progs-udeb/usr
rm -rf 
$(CURDIR)/debian/reiser4progs-udeb/sbin/{mkfs.reiser4,measurefs.reiser4}

clean::
rm -rf build
rm -f *-stamp
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Re: video card reccomendation

2010-09-26 Thread Mark Allums


On 9/26/2010 9:46 AM, Enrico Weigelt wrote:

Don't buy Nvidia. They're totally reluctant against OSS, and their
binary-only drivers are simply crap (dont want to flame on their
bad coding practises here ;-o).


I must differ.

NVIDIA don't do open source because they believe they must keep closed 
to compete with AMD/ATI.  Whether that's true or not is a matter of 
another discussion.  Their closed binaries are usually pretty good. 
Sometimes they release a bad bug, but they are quick to fix it, and 
quickly release a patched version.  At any rate, one's best best is 
probably Intel.  The more recent GPUs from Intel are well supported in 
Linux.  Heavy 3D support simply requires the NVIDIA blob.  No choice. 
Soon the Nouveau driver will change that, but for now...



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Re: Proposal of Fluxbox styles for Debian

2010-09-26 Thread Dale

On 27 September 2010 07:52, Phil Requirements simultane...@comcast.net wrote:
 Did you look at the file '/usr/share/doc/fluxbox/AUTHORS'? I don't have
 fluxbox installed myself, so I can't check it. But it might list the
 people who made the previous themes. And whoever made the themes might
 know who made the backgrounds, or they may have made the backgrounds.

 You may have already tried this approach, since it is pretty basic.


Hi Phil,

Yep I tried that, but it was more to do with developers and
contributors to Fluxbox itself.

Regards
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OT What's going on with virtualbox.org?

2010-09-26 Thread Mark Allums

What's going on with www.virtualbox.org?  It seems to be down and has 
been for a few days.  Has Oracle finally given it the axe?



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Re: OT What's going on with virtualbox.org?

On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 1:04 PM, Mark Allums m...@allums.com wrote:
 What's going on with www.virtualbox.org?  It seems to be down and has been
 for a few days.  Has Oracle finally given it the axe?


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I hope not. What a disaster if so.

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Re: OT What's going on with virtualbox.org?

2010-09-26 Thread Tom H

On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 1:04 AM, Mark Allums m...@allums.com wrote:

 What's going on with www.virtualbox.org? It seems to be down and has been
 for a few days. Has Oracle finally given it the axe?

http://dlc.sun.com/virtualbox/vboxdownload.html


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