Re: Accéder à Exchange depuis Debian...
Le 12/10/2010 15:21, David BERCOT a écrit : Bonjour, C'est une question très classique, mais j'imagine que, au fil du temps, de nouvelles solutions peuvent apparaître ;-) Je souhaiterais donc, à partir d'un poste client Debian, accéder à un serveur Exchange pour la messagerie et, si possible, le calendrier. Bien évidemment, je ne parle pas d'un simple accès OWA, mais d'un accès plus complet (stockage local, de préférence en MH). Afin de cibler vos éventuels conseils, voici déjà ce que j'ai fait... 1. A ma connaissance, le seul logiciel compatible avec le protocole Exchange est Evolution, via MAPI Exchange. Bon, ça marchotte, ce qui signifie qu'Evolution plante toutes les 5 minutes... 2. Ensuite, on m'a conseillé DavMail [http://davmail.sourceforge.net/] qui est d'ailleurs fourni sous la forme d'un paquet Debian et qui est indépendant du client de messagerie [très très bonne chose]. Toutefois, là encore, ça ne marche que si WebDav est activé, ce qui n'est pas le cas :-( 3. Enfin, il y a la possibilité d'utiliser Outlook dans Wine. Mais ça ne me satisfait pas vraiment. Si jamais vous avez donc une bonne idée, ça m'intéresse ;-) Merci d'avance. David. Bonjour, Je pense que tu as cité toutes les options possible ! L'autre choix est de faire activer les connecteurs Imap et webdav-ical de exchange pour pouvoir y accéder de manière + standard ! ++ Mourad -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cb562d8.10...@nativobject.net
Outil libre pour mesurer les temps de réponses
Bonjour Connaissez-vous un outils libre, pour mesurer les temps de réponses des requetes sur un site web Pour comparer entre les requetes internes et celles venant de l'exterieur En vous remerciant d'avance Philippe
Re: Outil libre pour mesurer les temps de réponses
J'aurai tendance à dire smokeping. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20101013083429.gb1...@avalon.cpt.appartland.eu
Re: debian-devel-french [était: Etat incohérent d' un package]
Le 11 octobre 2010 22:57, Sylvain L. Sauvage sylvain.l.sauv...@free.fr a écrit : Le lundi 11 octobre 2010 à 21:06:48, Julien Valroff a écrit : Salut, […] ’lut, et, accessoirement et histoire de justifier la scission, ce genre de question irait mieux sur la liste debian-devel-french, laquelle ne voit guère passer que quelques messages relatifs à des bouffes… Ok désolé du dérangement je leur enverrai ma question merci jerome -- Jerome Moliere - Mentor/J http://romjethoughts.blogspot.com/ auteur Eyrolles -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktimh2up2qwcetawh=-p_cpdeete1-xetbzbfr...@mail.gmail.com
Re: [avis Perso][un peu HS] plugin de navigateur pour les pdf
Le mardi 12 octobre 2010 à 21:36 +0200, Grégory Bulot a écrit : Je me posait la même question, je vois pas l'intérêt de voir un pdf dans son navigateur, j'aime bien lire mes pdf en dehors du navigateur. Sinon on peut mettre un document PDF sur Scribd qui ont une appli flash pour ça, on peut s'y inscrire avec le compte de Facebook. Bon d'accord, je me donne moi même une grande baffe et je sors : ＿|￣|○ gomennasai ＿|￣|○ gomennasai ＿|￣|○ gomennasai -- Jérôme - jer...@aranha.fr -- Jérôme - jer...@aranha.fr -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1286965985.18522.1.ca...@azuki
Re: [debian-vm-builder] Je cherche un outil / méthode d'installation automat ique d'une Debian similaire à debootstrap mais pour kvm + installation automatique de packages à la suite de l'installat
Le 12/10/2010 15:32, Stéphane Klein a écrit : Idéalement j'aimerais quelque chose que je peux lancer comme ça : $ create_vm --template serveur_lamp … Je viens de trouver quelque chose qui ressemble fortement à ce que je veux : https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/ubuntu-vm-builder.html Exemple d'exécution : $ sudo ubuntu-vm-builder kvm lucid --addpkg vim J'ai créé une VM Ubuntu Lucid, l'étape de création a bien fonctionné, seulement lors du lancement, rien ne se passe après « Starting up ... » J'ai refait le test avec la création d'une hardy et là ma VM fonctionne. ubuntu-vm-builder est basé sur python-vm-builder, il est possible d'étendre ce projet via des plugins. Pour créer des VM Debian, il existe une commande nommée debian-vm-builder. C'est aussi basé sur python-vm-builder. La page du projet est ici : http://wiki.debian.org/VMBuilder Pour le moment je n'ai pas réussi à générer une VM Debian avec debian-vm-builder. J'ai rencontré un premier bug qui a été corrigé avec https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vm-builder/+bug/404932 Par contre j'ai un second bug que je n'ai pas encore corrigé : http://pastebin.com/v6fhQr9m Est-ce que quelqu'un a déjà testé debian-vm-builder ? si oui, avez vous réussi à générer une VM Lenny ? avez vous rencontré ce bug ? Pour information, j'utilise debian-vm-builder sous une Ubuntu 10.10 Cordialement, Stéphane -- Stéphane Klein steph...@harobed.org - French blog: http://stephane-klein.info twitter: http://twitter.com/klein_stephane pro: http://www.is-webdesign.com -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/i94drq$os...@dough.gmane.org
Re: [debian-vm-builder] Je cherche un outil / méthode d'installation automatique d'une Debian similaire à debootstrap mais pour kvm + ins tallation automatique de packages à la suite de l'installat
Le Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 03:57:13PM +0200, Stéphane Klein a écrit : Par contre j'ai un second bug que je n'ai pas encore corrigé : http://pastebin.com/v6fhQr9m Est-ce que quelqu'un a déjà testé debian-vm-builder ? si oui, avez vous réussi à générer une VM Lenny ? avez vous rencontré ce bug ? Bonjour Stéphane, debian-vm-builder est issu du projet Google Summer of Code 2009. Il est tombé dans les limbes ensuite sans qu'il puisse être proposé comme patch à ubuntu-vm-builder, ni qu'il soit correctement empaqueté. Récemment, Miguel Landaeta mig...@miguel.cc essaye de reprendre le flambeau. N'hésite pas à le contacter (et à mettre pkg-escience-soc2...@lists.alioth.debian.org en copie). Amicalement, -- Charles Plessy Tsurumi, Kanagawa, Japon -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20101013151041.gb18...@merveille.plessy.net
Re: Outil libre pour mesure r les temps de réponses
Le mercredi 13 octobre, David Hymonnet écrivit : J'aurai tendance à dire smokeping. Il parle de requetes Web, un simple ping ne mesurera que le réseau, et encore, s'il y a de la QoS, ça pourrait être totalementdifférent de ce qu'il se passe au niveau HTTP. Si tu veu le temps de réponse d'une requete, et bien, utilise wget ou curl, en mesurant le temps avec time. Sinon, pour envoyer massivement des requetes, pour tester la charge, il y a siege. en faisant un petit aptitude search~dhttp~dbench, j'ai vu aussi wbox et httest. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Outil libre pour mesurer les temps de réponses
Si tu googlais un peu, ça eviterai que tu te rend ridicule en disant des conneries http://oss.oetiker.ch/smokeping/probe/index.en.html Le Mercredi 13 oct 2010 à 19:09:06 (+0200), Gilles Mocellin a écrit : Le mercredi 13 octobre, David Hymonnet écrivit : J'aurai tendance à dire smokeping. Il parle de requetes Web, un simple ping ne mesurera que le réseau, et encore, s'il y a de la QoS, ça pourrait être totalementdifférent de ce qu'il se passe au niveau HTTP. Si tu veu le temps de réponse d'une requete, et bien, utilise wget ou curl, en mesurant le temps avec time. Sinon, pour envoyer massivement des requetes, pour tester la charge, il y a siege. en faisant un petit aptitude search~dhttp~dbench, j'ai vu aussi wbox et httest. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20101013171652.ga19...@avalon.cpt.appartland.eu
Re: Outil libre pour mesurer les temps de réponses
A bougieskater : Avant d'insulter les gens, on apprend le français. Par ailleurs, le ridicule ne tue pas. Gilbert Le 13 octobre 2010 15:16, David Hymonnet bougieska...@gmail.com a écrit : Si tu googlais un peu, ça eviterai que tu te rend ridicule en disant des conneries http://oss.oetiker.ch/smokeping/probe/index.en.html Le Mercredi 13 oct 2010 à 19:09:06 (+0200), Gilles Mocellin a écrit : Le mercredi 13 octobre, David Hymonnet écrivit : J'aurai tendance à dire smokeping. Il parle de requetes Web, un simple ping ne mesurera que le réseau, et encore, s'il y a de la QoS, ça pourrait être totalementdifférent de ce qu'il se passe au niveau HTTP. Si tu veu le temps de réponse d'une requete, et bien, utilise wget ou curl, en mesurant le temps avec time. Sinon, pour envoyer massivement des requetes, pour tester la charge, il y a siege. en faisant un petit aptitude search~dhttp~dbench, j'ai vu aussi wbox et httest. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20101013171652.ga19...@avalon.cpt.appartland.eu
Re: Outil libre pour mesurer les temps de réponses
Le 13/10/2010 09:56, Philippe LAMUR a écrit : Bonjour Connaissez-vous un outils libre, pour mesurer les temps de réponses des requetes sur un site web Pour comparer entre les requetes internes et celles venant de l'exterieur Il y a ab fournit avec le paquet apache2-utils : Description: utility programs for webservers Provides some add-on programs useful for any webserver. These include: - ab (Apache benchmark tool) -- == | FRÉDÉRIC MASSOT | | http://www.juliana-multimedia.com | | mailto:frede...@juliana-multimedia.com | ===Debian=GNU/Linux=== -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cb5eb8f.2030...@juliana-multimedia.com
Re: [avis Perso][un peu HS] plugin de navigateur pour les pdf
Bonjour, Bonsoir, Reprise de votre mail en citation, reponses éventuelles au fil du texte Le Wed, 13 Oct 2010 12:33:05 +0200, Jérôme, vous avez écrit : ＿|￣|○ gomennasai ＿|￣|○ gomennasai ＿|￣|○ gomennasai Mort de rire :-DDD -- Cordialement Grégory BULOT -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20101013215640.3f656...@morpheus.bulot-fr.com
RE: partage nfs
Bonsoir, J'ai changé mon approche au niveau du serveur en mettant dans le fichier /etc/exports La ligne : /home *(rw) Je pensais que ça marcherai mais le serveur ne veux rien savoir. (refus pour mountnfs) Mon idée était de partager le répertoire /home avec toutes les machines en lecture écriture. rk -Message d'origine- De : rk [mailto:rkdeb...@numericable.fr] Envoyé : samedi 9 octobre 2010 23:18 À : 'JF Straeten'; debian-user-french@lists.debian.org Objet : RE: partage nfs J'essaierai lundi car je n'ai pas accès aux machines le W.E A + rk -Message d'origine- De : JF Straeten [mailto:jfstrae...@scarlet.be] Envoyé : samedi 9 octobre 2010 22:46 À : debian-user-french@lists.debian.org Objet : Re: partage nfs Re, On Sat, Oct 09, 2010 at 10:30:56PM +0200, rk wrote: Fichier /etc/exports : Des lignes du type : /home/nom_login *(rw, all_squash, anonuid=1004, anongid=1004,sync) Je ne fais référence à aucune machine dans le fichier /etc/exports , les autorisations ne concernent que les utilisateurs. Je vois... Ce sont autant de coups de pied dans le noir, hein, mais : - pourrais-tu réessayer en supprimant les espaces dans les options des shares : (rw, all_squash, anonuid=1004, anongid=1004,sync) (rw,all_squash,anonuid=1004,anongid=1004,sync) - et en mettant un TAB entre nom_login et * ; - aussi, tu as bien un retour chariot à la fin de la dernière ligne ? - tu ne montes que /home/nom_login, ou tu as plusieurs users qui ont tous un répertoire maison sous /home, et donc plusieurs lignes de montage du même type ? Dans l'affirmative, pourquoi ne pas exporter juste /home, que tu montes sur le(s) client(s) au même endroit ? Juste pour voir, hein, je ne dis pas que ça influence. Sais pas si ça aide, mais on cherche en tout cas ;) A+ -- JFS. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20101009204629.ga17...@hohenhole.jfs.dt -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/004201cb67f7$653ab380$2fb01a...@fr -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/001401cb6b17$8d729e30$a857da...@fr
problème ddd
Bonsoir, Jai un programme à débugger avec ddd, mais je rencontre un problème avec scanf. Le processus est censé lire une valeur n entrée par lutilisateur (au clavier), mais lorsque ddd exécute linstruction comportant linstruction scanf, jessai dintroduire la valeur de n mais je ny parviens pas. Merci de mindiquer la marche à suivre. rk
Re: Outil libre pour mesure r les temps de réponses
Le mercredi 13 octobre, David Hymonnet écrivit : Si tu googlais un peu, ça eviterai que tu te rend ridicule en disant des conneries http://oss.oetiker.ch/smokeping/probe/index.en.html Bon, OK, ça a un peu évolué depuis que j'avais regardé. Cependant, je ne suis pas sur que ça réponde à sont besoin. Je viens de relire la question, l'aspect requete venant de l'exterieur reste un problème. Soit on a la main sur un autre serveur qui peut accéder à notre site Web par Internet, soit il faut faire appel à des services payant à la Xiti. J'y pense, j'avais vu chez nous aussi un munin qui faisait des requêtes via wget pour grapher les temps de réponse de certaines requêtes. Evidement, des requêtes simples, car s'il faut une session ouverte, des cookies et remplir un formulaire, c'est pas impossible, mais c'est pas simple. Là, on peut faire appel au module perle WWW::mechanize. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: partage nfs
Re,
On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 10:45:20PM +0200, rk wrote:
J'ai changé mon approche au niveau du serveur en mettant dans le fichier
/etc/exports
La ligne : /home *(rw)
Je pensais que ça marcherai mais le serveur ne veux rien savoir. (refus pour
mountnfs)
Mon idée était de partager le répertoire /home avec toutes les machines en
lecture écriture.
Mmm... ça devrait marcher, c'est fait pour :-/
On va reprendre depuis le début...
Est-ce que les machines se voient bien ?
Un ping de l'une à l'autre passe, et inversement ?
Bête question peut-être, mais sont-elles sur le même subnet ?
Comment se fait leur résolution des noms ? Sont-elles mutuellement
dans le /etc/hosts l'une de l'autre ou bien utilises-tu une autre
méthode ?
Qu'as tu installé comme paquets (relatifs à NFS) sur chacune ? Sur un
client, il faut nfs-common (et ses dépendances) ; sur le serveur as-tu
bien nfs-kernel-server (et ses dépendances) ?
Ensuite, qu'as-tu dans /etc/hosts.{allow,deny} sur les deux ?
Aussi, pas de firewall sur aucune machine, je suppose ?
Encore ensuite, saurais-tu copier in extenso ton /etc/exports ?
(N.B. si d'aventure, tu avais tenté une install de unfs3 ou de
nfs-user-server, gare au format d'/etc/exports... des petits trucs
changent de l'un à l'autre ; s'assurer que tu as bien le bon.)
Tant qu'on y est, jetons aussi un oeil aux fichiers
/etc/default/nfs-common (des deux, client et serveur) et
/etc/default/nfs-kernel-server du serveur.
Ensuite, fais un exportfs -a sur le serveur (avec en place
l'/etc/exports que tu auras copié), puis essaye de monter depuis un
client et donne la commande de montage utilisée.
En cas de refus, copier les lignes adéquates du syslog du client et du
serveur, pour voir ce qu'ils racontent.
On devrait trouver, c'est quasiment pas possible autrement...
A+
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JFS.
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Re: problème ddd
Le Wednesday 13 October 2010 à 10:49:43PM, rk a écrit : Bonsoir, Jai un programme à débugger avec ddd, mais je rencontre un problème avec scanf. Le processus est censé lire une valeur n entrée par lutilisateur (au clavier), mais lorsque ddd exécute linstruction comportant linstruction scanf, jessai dintroduire la valeur de n mais je ny parviens pas. Merci de mindiquer la marche à suivre. rk Si je puis me permettre, deux trois petits conseils : 1) éviter de se laisser guider par son débogueur quand on est en phase de développement. Une analyse fine des spécifications des fonctions utilisées, du code lisible et un algo clair, simple, que tu suis à la lettre. 2) Ne pas utiliser scanf() pour saisir des entrées utilisateur, plutôt fgets() et ensuite un traitement éventuel avec sscanf(). 3) Arrêter d'utiliser OutLook comme client mail Sinon, cette liste est-elle vraiment l'endroit où poser ce genre de questions ? Si tu connais Usenet, tu pourras y trouver le groupe fr.comp.lang.c . Ils aurant sans aucun doute des réponses plus pertinentes et rapides à tes questions par rapport au langage C. Ciao. -- Free software, free society. Jérémie Courrèges-Anglas GPG key : 06A11494 pgpt3rK5qG1Ce.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Debian testing decia servidor x fallo, no esta configurado
From: Edgar Vargas cybernaut...@esdebian.org To: lista-debian debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org Sent: Tue, October 12, 2010 7:19:27 PM Subject: Re: Debian testing decia servidor x fallo, no esta configurado Hola, pues cuando me fallaba siempe veia que em decia el servidor x fallo, pueda ser que no este configurado, ahora se desactivara, reinicie gdm, cuando todo este configurado, por eso dije que el servidor x era el problema, pero mi pregunta fue, esta correcto lo q hice?, al poner en x11 ese archivo?, con cat /xorg.conf, puedo leer que algo hizo, hay muchas cosas q no entiendo, suongo q ya esta :O http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top-posting Alejandro -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/62089.50838...@web120203.mail.ne1.yahoo.com
Re: i810 vuelve loco al i915.ko
El día 12 de octubre de 2010 18:36, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: El Tue, 12 Oct 2010 17:47:26 -0300, Horacio escribió: Holas... tengo una tarjeta on-board i810 en una placa AsRock 485 p... donde se instaló debian testing... Todo perfecto la reinstalación ... etc... pero de golpe... se queda parpadeando el monitor y se bloque la terminal de teclado... accediendo por una remota y viendo los log sale cosa como esta... [ 7118.476007] [drm:i915_hangcheck_elapsed] *ERROR* Hangcheck timer elapsed... GPU hung Puede ser que te estés topando con este problema: drm/i915: Hangcheck timer elapsed... GPU hung http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=582975 No sé si el problema es del driver o del acpid... ya una vez pregunté esto, googleé pero nada... alguna idea...? Tiene pinta de ser el driver de la tarjeta gráfica (supongo que usas el intel). Puedes intentar funcionar con el vesa mientras solucionan el problema o sacan alguna actualización. Saludos, Ok. gracias... veré que puedo hacer... con este bug que afecta a todas las distros... grrr!!! -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.10.12.21.36...@gmail.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktik4=w4ocywbz17d§geym_yg+oy23lflopo...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Problema con ath5k y wpasupplicant
Mon, 11 Oct 2010, Angel Vicente: Estoy experimentando problemas al intentar conectar con mi router Sagem, usando una tarjeta wireless TL-WN651G. Estoy usando WPA2-PSK, pero lo que veo en los logs es que se asocia con el router y a continuacion deshace la asociacion. El modulo de la tarjeta es ath5k. Por internet he visto problemas parecidos con otros drivers, y en varios de los sitios concluyen que es un problema de software, ya que bajando la version del kernel, consiguen hacerlo funcionar. Esto si que es nuevo. Dudo mucho que haciendo un downgrade del kernel logres eliminar el problema que dices. He querido usar ndiswrapper, pero he descubierto que wpasupplicant (al menos el de los repositorios oficiales) no funciona con este driver. ¿Mandeee?. Ndiswrapper funciona con el wpasupplicant de los repositorios sin problemas. Pero teniendo el driver nativo, ¿quién desea ndiswrapper?. En resumen: se carga el driver de la tarjeta, con iwlist, puedo escanear y ver los punto de acceso cercanos, pero el PA deshace la asociacion. Le veo al problema dificil solucion, pero dado que es mi primera experiencia con wireless en Debian, me gustaria saber vuestras experiencias con ello. Mi experiecia con un error similar es que cuando tienes más de un gestor de conexiones funcionando, estos se pelean deshaciendo uno lo que hace el otro, consiguiendo que la conexión se desvanezca. Así que para TODOS los servicios que configuren la red (network-manager, wicd, ...), para probar a mano con wpasupplicant, o arranca sólo uno de ellos. -- Saludos --- Angel
Re: [OT] - Debian en la Uni
- Original Message From: Usuario vlom...@gmail.com To: lista-debian debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org Sent: Sat, October 9, 2010 6:37:14 PM Subject: Re: [OT] - Debian en la Uni En México contra toda mi incredulidad se anuncian en la tele no Debian o algun Linux pero si software GNU. Así es, una empresa de television por cable y triple play vende unas netbook[1] chafisimas que aunque usan mocosoft de SO el resto de la paquetería preinstalada es software libre. En el anuncio pasan el logo de OpenOffice, de Firefox y varios más. LOL acabo de llegar de clases y durante la clase el profe estaba encendiendo su portátil/laptop, enciende el proyector y plop!!! resulta que usa Debian Pero al parecer usa un servidor X bastante ligero (ni siquiera es xfce, creo que se llama xterm o algo asi?) la verdad es que fue genial, inclusive le vi el icono de iceweasel ^_^ La próxima le preguntaré si usa stable, testing o sid ;) Saludos -- Alejandro Matos -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/812256.10171...@web120206.mail.ne1.yahoo.com
Re: [OT] - Debian en la Uni
El día 13 de octubre de 2010 16:04, Alejandro Matos amat...@yahoo.com escribió: - Original Message From: Usuario vlom...@gmail.com To: lista-debian debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org Sent: Sat, October 9, 2010 6:37:14 PM Subject: Re: [OT] - Debian en la Uni En México contra toda mi incredulidad se anuncian en la tele no Debian o algun Linux pero si software GNU. Así es, una empresa de television por cable y triple play vende unas netbook[1] chafisimas que aunque usan mocosoft de SO el resto de la paquetería preinstalada es software libre. En el anuncio pasan el logo de OpenOffice, de Firefox y varios más. LOL acabo de llegar de clases y durante la clase el profe estaba encendiendo su portátil/laptop, enciende el proyector y plop!!! resulta que usa Debian Pero al parecer usa un servidor X bastante ligero (ni siquiera es xfce, creo que se llama xterm o algo asi?) la verdad es que fue genial, inclusive le vi el icono de iceweasel ^_^ La próxima le preguntaré si usa stable, testing o sid ;) Saludos -- Alejandro Matos Xterm es un terminal gráfico no un gestor de ventanas. Es posible arrancar un servidor X sin gestor de ventanas y que corra un xterm, pero no aporta nada... A mi me gusta mucho un clásico, el fvwm que como gestor de ventanas que es solo utiliza los iconos cuando minimizas una aplicación (no tiene iconos en el fondo), también permite reducir las ventanas a la barra de título en vez de minimizarlas del todo y tiene uno de los sistemas de multiples escritorios y escritorios virtuales mas logrados que he visto. http://www.fvwm.org/ (Por supuesto está en Debian) Saludos. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktimowfftoec29qvhvplbf6mfn3xcrefl=skh2...@mail.gmail.com
limitaciones en descargas y ancho de banda en PHP y apache
Estimados. Estoy tratando de hacer una aplicacion donde tengo diferentes usuarios, que se conectan de diferentes partes... mi idea es un foro pra compartir archivos, los archivos se suben en mi mismo servidor, pero la idea es penalizar a los que no participan y solo ingresarán a descargar el archivo... mi idea es darle menos ancho de banda a los que tienen menos mensajes por ejemplo... que no puedan descargar mas de 1 archivo a las vez... etc. asi como lo hace rapid share, tambien que por ejemplo que deban esperar mas tiempo que otros para descargar otro archivo, etc.- si alguien tiene una idea sobre que iformación buscar, o que paquetes necesito.. se los agradeciería Saludos. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktika_wm3f54sumzr+h-tlk8kymo54-xnyhryp...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Problema con ath5k y wpasupplicant
On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 06:43:59PM +0200, Angel Vicente wrote: On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 03:46:15PM +, Camaleón wrote: El Mon, 11 Oct 2010 15:58:31 +0200, Angel Vicente escribió: On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 01:47:40PM +, Camaleón wrote: Yo probaría algo sencillo, como es bajar el cifrado (usar WPA-PSK), activar el BSSID (para que el AP se identifique), intentar obtener la mejor cobertura posible (evitar interferencias que puedan venir de otros aparatos que usen la misma frecuencia) y probar la asociación con otro AP para descartar algún problema de incompatibilidad con el router. He probado incluso dejandolo abierto, sin exito. Si lo dejas abierto (o si usas WEP), me parece que wpa_supplicant no entra en juego, seguramente te daría otro error. Cuando mencionas las interferencias, ¿te refieres a otros APs?, aqui en el vecindario, detecto varios mas. Ahora mismo el PC en cuestion esta fisicamente debajo del AP, en el mismo mueble, pero debajo. Si lo tienes cerca, entonces nada. Lo de encontrar otros AP es normal, no creo que influya. Lo de probar con otro, no tengo posibilidad ahora mismo; no se si en el trabajo hay algun AP que no se este usando, hasta el miercoles no podria comprobarlo. Okis. Sería interesante para ver si el error te viene del driver, del wpa_supplicant o de alguna incompatibilidad con el AP (no sería la primera vez que lo veo). La última vez que me tuve que pegar con wpa_supplicant creo recordar que fue por el BSSID (estaba desactivado en el AP y se perdía la asociación; al activarlo, el problema se esfumó) y también recuerdo que podías ejecutarlo en modo verboso (-dd) para que te registrara más información... no sé, por si vieras algún otro dato que te diera alguna pista :-? Tengo novedades, pero tengo que investigar un poco mas: pase el router a WEP y configure interfaces para que use wireless-tools, el resultado similar al de wpasupplicant, pero con un mensaje que no habia visto antes: deauthenticating from [codigo BSSI] by local choice (reason=3), googleando un poco, y navegando por un foro de Ubuntu, veo que han probado a desinstalar el network-manager; yo en lugar de desinstalar, he detenido el servicio, y cuando he hecho ifup wlan0, ha arrancado correctamente, me falta probar con WPA2, pero supongo antes no funcionaba por el mismo motivo. Tengo que averiguar si es realmente necesario ese paquete, y en caso afirmativo como configurar para que no me entorpezca las conexiones wifi. Bueno, finalmente he configurado network-manager para que no gestione la tarjeta wirelessy y se arranque desde interfaces; efectivamente era el gestor de red el que impedia levantar el interface, no pensaba que tendria mayor precedencia que interfaces. Muchas gracias a las indicaciones que me han ayudado a encontrar la solucion Saludos Saludos Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.10.11.15.46...@gmail.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20101011164359.ga5...@angel.dominio.angel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20101013152915.ga2...@angel.dominio.angel
Re: limitaciones en descargas y ancho de banda en PHP y apache
El día 13 de octubre de 2010 12:00, Robert J. Briones C. robert.brio...@gmail.com escribió: Estimados. Estoy tratando de hacer una aplicacion donde tengo diferentes usuarios, que se conectan de diferentes partes... mi idea es un foro pra compartir archivos, los archivos se suben en mi mismo servidor, pero la idea es penalizar a los que no participan y solo ingresarán a descargar el archivo... mi idea es darle menos ancho de banda a los que tienen menos mensajes por ejemplo... que no puedan descargar mas de 1 archivo a las vez... etc. asi como lo hace rapid share, tambien que por ejemplo que deban esperar mas tiempo que otros para descargar otro archivo, etc.- si alguien tiene una idea sobre que iformación buscar, o que paquetes necesito.. se los agradeciería Pues como dices en el asunto PHP y Apche. y con respecto a que información, puedes preguntarle a google. Suerte. -- usuario linux #274354 normas de la lista: http://wiki.debian.org/NormasLista como hacer preguntas inteligentes: http://www.sindominio.net/ayuda/preguntas-inteligentes.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktikdfhmkerju_urgiufjhuzra5n78y73u9muf...@mail.gmail.com
Re: limitaciones en descargas y ancho de banda en PHP y apache
Puedes limitarlo por apache2 con el módulo libapache2-mod-bw, habrán más módulos seguro. Si no recuerdo mal, este módulo, ajusta cada ancho de banda a nivel general o de VirtualHost. Ahora es cuestión de echarle imaginación. Un ejemplo a groso modo: - Crear diferentes virtualhost (para subdominios) con una configuración de ancho de banda diferente - No permitir descargas directa, solo por PHP, para controlar los accesos En función del tipo de usuario, la descarga lo hara desde un subdominio u otro. Por lo tango con un cierto ancho de banda Si el módulo admite configuraciones por directorios y/o localizaciones, te puedes ahorrar crear varios VirtualHost Habrán métodos mejores, seguro. El 13/10/10 17:00, Robert J. Briones C. escribió: Estimados. Estoy tratando de hacer una aplicacion donde tengo diferentes usuarios, que se conectan de diferentes partes... mi idea es un foro pra compartir archivos, los archivos se suben en mi mismo servidor, pero la idea es penalizar a los que no participan y solo ingresarán a descargar el archivo... mi idea es darle menos ancho de banda a los que tienen menos mensajes por ejemplo... que no puedan descargar mas de 1 archivo a las vez... etc. asi como lo hace rapid share, tambien que por ejemplo que deban esperar mas tiempo que otros para descargar otro archivo, etc.- si alguien tiene una idea sobre que iformación buscar, o que paquetes necesito.. se los agradeciería Saludos. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cb5d46a.9030...@gmail.com
Re: [OT] Mini cluster o algo por el estilo
Agradezco sus ideas. Probaré ambas y pronto comentaré como lo sulucioné. Saludos -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlkti=ro-3yrm0zgwbgjxb82jsymezabnjyqptd0...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Resolución consola con framebuffer
On 10/12/10, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: El Tue, 12 Oct 2010 16:16:38 -0300, G. Sebastián Pedersen escribió: On 10/12/10, Camaleón wrote: Hum... ¿Qué valores has probado a pasarle con vga=? Probé todos los valores que me tire el vga=ask correspondientes a 1024x768 y a 1280x1024. Me refería a manualmente, a los valores que le has dicho que use editando a mano el menu.lst. Te lo comento porque valores incorrectos pueden ser los causantes de ese out of range. Los probé editando el menu.lst del GRUB cuando inicia (pulsando 'e')... calculo que es lo mismo, ¿no? Igualmente por las dudas pruebo, total mal no me hace :) Saludos, -- Camaleón Saludos y gracias, Sebas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.10.12.19.54...@gmail.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktikbuijivrnadivfucoksnkxqcl8y0v80qc0h...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Resolución consola con framebuffer
El Wed, 13 Oct 2010 12:59:15 -0300, G. Sebastián Pedersen escribió: On 10/12/10, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: El Tue, 12 Oct 2010 16:16:38 -0300, G. Sebastián Pedersen escribió: On 10/12/10, Camaleón wrote: Hum... ¿Qué valores has probado a pasarle con vga=? Probé todos los valores que me tire el vga=ask correspondientes a 1024x768 y a 1280x1024. Me refería a manualmente, a los valores que le has dicho que use editando a mano el menu.lst. Te lo comento porque valores incorrectos pueden ser los causantes de ese out of range. Los probé editando el menu.lst del GRUB cuando inicia (pulsando 'e')... calculo que es lo mismo, ¿no? Igualmente por las dudas pruebo, total mal no me hace :) Sí, pero ¿qué valores? Por ejemplo, en lenny si pongo vga=791 me da error, tengo que usar vga=0x317 y se supone que ambos ofrecen la misma resolución con la misma profundidad de bits 1024x768x16 :-) Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.10.13.16.55...@gmail.com
Re: Resolución consola con framebuffer
2010/10/13 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com El Wed, 13 Oct 2010 12:59:15 -0300, G. Sebastián Pedersen escribió: On 10/12/10, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: El Tue, 12 Oct 2010 16:16:38 -0300, G. Sebastián Pedersen escribió: On 10/12/10, Camaleón wrote: Hum... ¿Qué valores has probado a pasarle con vga=? Probé todos los valores que me tire el vga=ask correspondientes a 1024x768 y a 1280x1024. Me refería a manualmente, a los valores que le has dicho que use editando a mano el menu.lst. Te lo comento porque valores incorrectos pueden ser los causantes de ese out of range. Los probé editando el menu.lst del GRUB cuando inicia (pulsando 'e')... calculo que es lo mismo, ¿no? Igualmente por las dudas pruebo, total mal no me hace :) Sí, pero ¿qué valores? Por ejemplo, en lenny si pongo vga=791 me da error, tengo que usar vga=0x317 y se supone que ambos ofrecen la misma resolución con la misma profundidad de bits 1024x768x16 :-) Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.10.13.16.55...@gmail.com En un server squeeze tengo algo asi en el /etc/default/grub: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=vga=791 GRUB_GFXMODE=1024x768 y una hermosa fuente Terminus. Placa de video: una horrenda Trident CyberBlade Monitor: Un Viewsonic E40 (14) Una cosa que puedes probar es lo siguiente: en el menu de arranque del GRUB presionas c y luego en el prompt escribes vbeinfo. Slds -- *Por favor, evite enviarme documentos adjuntos en formato Word o PowerPoint. Lea http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.es.html*
Re: Resolución consola con framebuffer
On 10/13/10, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: El Wed, 13 Oct 2010 12:59:15 -0300, G. Sebastián Pedersen escribió: On 10/12/10, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: El Tue, 12 Oct 2010 16:16:38 -0300, G. Sebastián Pedersen escribió: On 10/12/10, Camaleón wrote: Hum... ¿Qué valores has probado a pasarle con vga=? Probé todos los valores que me tire el vga=ask correspondientes a 1024x768 y a 1280x1024. Me refería a manualmente, a los valores que le has dicho que use editando a mano el menu.lst. Te lo comento porque valores incorrectos pueden ser los causantes de ese out of range. Los probé editando el menu.lst del GRUB cuando inicia (pulsando 'e')... calculo que es lo mismo, ¿no? Igualmente por las dudas pruebo, total mal no me hace :) Sí, pero ¿qué valores? Por ejemplo, en lenny si pongo vga=791 me da error, tengo que usar vga=0x317 y se supone que ambos ofrecen la misma resolución con la misma profundidad de bits 1024x768x16 :-) Ah ok. Sí, probé con vga=0x317 y todos los demás que me da vga=ask, pero con todos el monitor me tira el out of range. Saludos, -- Camaleón Saludos y gracias, Sebas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.10.13.16.55...@gmail.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktiner_4p36zgngef+=oanzbqz+p_qkt8-q3sp...@mail.gmail.com
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Re: Controle de Banda Debian Lenny
Em 12-10-2010 22:28, gunix escreveu: Junior, praticamente implantado a solução para controle de banda. Agradeço todo esforo a este trabalho a vc. Porem se possivel me ajude em mais 2 duvidas. Eu marquei todos os pacotes que vem da eth1 com 1 iptables -t mangle -A PREROUTING -i eth1 -j MARK --set-mark 1 iptables -t mangle -A PREROUTING -i eth1 -j RETURN e mais abaixo joguei isso para a classe que me da velocidade de acesso discado. Imagine que eu tenha 3 clientes: 192.168.0.1 192.168.0.2 192.168.0.3 Tenho que marcar cada 1 com estacao com uma valor diferente e depois jogar para as classes? Ex: iptables -t mangle -A PREROUTING -i eth1 -d 192.168.0.1 -j MARK --set-mark 1 iptables -t mangle -A PREROUTING -i eth1 -d 192.168.0.2 -j MARK --set-mark 1 iptables -t mangle -A PREROUTING -i eth1 -d 192.168.0.3 -j MARK --set-mark 2 iptables -t mangle -A PREROUTING -i eth1 -d 192.168.0.1 -j RETURN iptables -t mangle -A PREROUTING -i eth1 -d 192.168.0.3 -j RETURN iptables -t mangle -A PREROUTING -i eth1 -d 192.168.0.2 -j RETURN tc filter add dev eth0 parent 1: protocol ip handle 1 fw classid 1:11 tc filter add dev eth0 parent 1: protocol ip handle 2 fw classid 1:20 é isso? E quando uso squid? Fiz uma teste e para quem usa proxy a navegação parece que fica meio louca. TEm alguem que tem que fazer? Não testei 100%, mas provavelmente de problemas... Olá! Legal que entendeu o espírito do controle de banda e está funcionando! Quanto a marcar pacotes pelos destinos da sua rede internet, este deve ser feito depois de roteamento, pois o pacote chega na eth1 (PREROUTING) com o IP de destino do seu firewall, o qual verifica na sua tabela de roteamento para qual IP da rede internet se destina este pacote, então troca o IP dele pelo IP da sua rede interna e então manda o pacote para sua interface de rede interna eth0 (POSTROUTING), aí sim entram nas regras do TC. Dessa forma o correto seria: iptables -t mangle -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -d 192.168.0.1 -j MARK --set-mark 1 iptables -t mangle -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -d 192.168.0.1 -j RETURN iptables -t mangle -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -d 192.168.0.2 -j MARK --set-mark 1 iptables -t mangle -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -d 192.168.0.2 -j RETURN iptables -t mangle -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -d 192.168.0.3 -j MARK --set-mark 2 iptables -t mangle -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -d 192.168.0.3 -j RETURN tc filter add dev eth0 parent 1: protocol ip handle 1 fw classid 1:11 tc filter add dev eth0 parent 1: protocol ip handle 2 fw classid 1:20 Veja que o RETURN fica abaixo de cada regra para que o firewall não passe pelas outras desnecessariamente. Veja também que os pacotes já foram marcados com 1 quando chegaram da internet, então apenas precisa marcar com 2 os que não fazem parte do balaio, sendo dessa forma desnecessárias as 4 primeiras linhas acima. Ainda pode organizar e subdividir sua rede interna em classes de IP para não ficar fazendo regras 1 a 1. Por exemplo, IPs de 192.168.0.0 a 192.168.0.7 são da classe 192.168.0.0/29, os de 192.168.0.1 a 192.168.0.15 são da classe 192.168.0.8/29, de 192.168.0.128 a 192.168.0.255 da classe 192.168.0.0/25, aí é só marcar a classe de IP e filtrar cada marca para uma classe do TC, e assim não vai precisar fazer IP a IP. []'s Junior Polegato -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cb5a1fb.80...@juniorpolegato.com.br
Re: Re: [OFF TOPIC] Qual é a melhor configuracao pa ra modem e roteador wireless?
Adauto, Vou fazer esse seu teste. Eu ja testei uma outra dica me enviada ontem pelo tux, mas nao deu resultado. No entanto, tenho umas duvidas: 1. Vou conectar o cabo LAN do modem diretamente em uma das 4 portas RJ45 de saida do meu roteador. Isso mesmo? 2. Nas configuracoes Wan do meu roteador nao tem opcao para nao configurar. Ha as seguintes opcoes: WAN Connection Type: -Dynamic IP, Static IP, PPPoE, 802.1X+Dynamic IP, 802.1X+Static IP, BigPond Cable, ou L2TP, PPTP. Qual das acima eu escolho em WAN Connetion type? Dependendo da seleção acima, ha as seguintes sub-opcoes: -IP Address, Subnet Mask, Default Gateway, MTU Size, Primary DNS e Secondary DNS. O que seria preenchido em cada uma delas, dada a seleção anterior? Parece trivial, mas, uma vez que o modem comandará, deve ser algo dentro da cadeia de IPs do modem (192.168.1.1). Outra coisa, eu uso o DHCP do modem ou o do roteador? Atualmente o modem e o roteador estao fazendo NAT e o modem esta com DHCP desligado, sendo que o reteador esta com DHCP ligado. Muito obrigado. Marcelo Marcelo, Já tive alguns problemas com relação ao modelo de configuração utilizado por você. Bom tente fazer o seguinte não configure a Wan do seu roteador e conecte o cabo da Lan do seu modem direto nas entradas de rede do seu roteador e deixe o modem roteado. Escolha um dos dois dispositivos para entregar seu serviço de DHCP fazendo com que os micros peguem gateway com o ip do modem e verifique se melhorou o desempenho. abs, -- Adauto Serpa -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktik5ado+gfmxllhvdsa_kjpept5ugfh33hggj...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Re: [OFF TOPIC] Qual é a melhor configuracao pa ra modem e roteador wireless?
Marcelo, Em 13 de outubro de 2010 09:20, Marcelo Laia marcelol...@gmail.comescreveu: Adauto, Vou fazer esse seu teste. Eu ja testei uma outra dica me enviada ontem pelo tux, mas nao deu resultado. No entanto, tenho umas duvidas: 1. Vou conectar o cabo LAN do modem diretamente em uma das 4 portas RJ45 de saida do meu roteador. Isso mesmo? sim, vai apenas perder uma porta, porém ainda vai consegui conectar os 3 computadores. 2. Nas configuracoes Wan do meu roteador nao tem opcao para nao configurar. Ha as seguintes opcoes: WAN Connection Type: -Dynamic IP, Static IP, PPPoE, 802.1X+Dynamic IP, 802.1X+Static IP, BigPond Cable, ou L2TP, PPTP. Deixe como Dynamic IP Qual das acima eu escolho em WAN Connetion type? Dependendo da seleção acima, ha as seguintes sub-opcoes: -IP Address, Subnet Mask, Default Gateway, MTU Size, Primary DNS e Secondary DNS. O que seria preenchido em cada uma delas, dada a seleção anterior? Parece trivial, mas, uma vez que o modem comandará, deve ser algo dentro da cadeia de IPs do modem (192.168.1.1). Sim, aqui em casa por exemplo meu modem tem o IP 192.168.1.1 e o Roteador Wireless 192.168.1.2, Hoje utilizo o Roteador para distribuir IP(DHPC) e fazer os filtros/compartilhamento sem fio(Wireless). O bom dessa configuração que achei é que tenho acesso ao modem e ao roteador tudo na mesma mascara de IP, pelo mesmo pra mim facilita a administração dos dois equipamentos. Outra coisa, eu uso o DHCP do modem ou o do roteador? Atualmente o modem e o roteador estao fazendo NAT e o modem esta com DHCP desligado, sendo que o reteador esta com DHCP ligado. Muito obrigado. Marcelo Marcelo, Já tive alguns problemas com relação ao modelo de configuração utilizado por você. Bom tente fazer o seguinte não configure a Wan do seu roteador e conecte o cabo da Lan do seu modem direto nas entradas de rede do seu roteador e deixe o modem roteado. Escolha um dos dois dispositivos para entregar seu serviço de DHCP fazendo com que os micros peguem gateway com o ip do modem e verifique se melhorou o desempenho. abs, -- Adauto Serpa Outra coisa meu modem é um TP-Link TD8816 e meu roteador é um TL-WR340GD. Também estou tentando configurar o QoS, mas ainda não o entendi direito se eu consegui depois a gente pode trocar mais informações. um abraço, -- Adauto Serpa Tecnólogo em Informática Jabber: adautose...@jabber.org Email: adautose...@gmail.com MSN: junio...@hotmail.com
Re: acessar pasta html do apache em maquina virtual vmware
Olá,
Erro 404 é NOT FOUND, ja revisou suas configurações de virtual hosts?
Em 13 de outubro de 2010 04:19, erico dias eric...@gmail.com escreveu:
o usuário consta, eu executei a mudança de propriedade e grupo, mas
continua dando erro 404
2010/10/12 Rafael Moraes raf...@bsd.com.br
Tenha sempre em maos a documentação do apache, é muito completa e fácil de
entender:
http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/pt-br/
http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/pt-br/Esse erro é devido a permissão
nos arquivos que vc está tentando acessar.
Dê permissão ao usuário do apache e vc resolverá isto.
chown -R www-data.www-data diretorio/
Este é um exemplo, verifique se este é realmente o user do apache:
ps aux |grep apache |awk '{print $1}'
abraço
Em 12 de outubro de 2010 00:41, erico dias eric...@gmail.com escreveu:
pessoal, eu instalei o leny em uma máquina virtual para testar e
desenvolver sites e talvez até algumas aplicações. Sou iniciante ainda,
ocorre que nessa configuração, lenny+vmware, não consigo passar da página
it works do apache.
já coloquei algumas coisas nele, como joomla, wordpress, mas quando tento
acessá-los, http://ip-da-vm/wordpress ele retorna erro afirmando que não
possuo permissão. Há alguma configuração necessária no firewall? Ats
permissões de pasta foram alteradas para permitir o acesso, mas o erro
continua...
há como fazer isso sem a necessidade de configuração de domínios vituais?
--
Att,
Rafael Moraes
Linux Professional Institute Certified - LPI 2
Cisco Certified Design Associate - CCDA
Novell Certified Linux Administrator - CLA
Data Center Technical Specialist - DCTS
ITIL Foundations Certified
Re: Controle de Banda Debian Lenny
Ola Junior, seguinte explicarei a topologia que tenho. --172.16.0.0/16--eth1---FW---tun0--m Internet - LINK 1024k. Preciso controlar o trafego da máquina 172.16.0.4, onde tudo que vem na porta 3389 de entrada e saida tenha 512kb, o http, https e ssh 400kb, e o restante 112. Porém fiz as regras semelhante a postada, mas so cai na classe 3. minhas regras: http://pastebin.com/FZj32JZm Obrigado pela ajuda. Em 13 de outubro de 2010 09:11, Junior Polegato - Linux li...@juniorpolegato.com.br escreveu: Em 12-10-2010 22:28, gunix escreveu: Junior, praticamente implantado a solução para controle de banda. Agradeço todo esforo a este trabalho a vc. Porem se possivel me ajude em mais 2 duvidas. Eu marquei todos os pacotes que vem da eth1 com 1 iptables -t mangle -A PREROUTING -i eth1 -j MARK --set-mark 1 iptables -t mangle -A PREROUTING -i eth1 -j RETURN e mais abaixo joguei isso para a classe que me da velocidade de acesso discado. Imagine que eu tenha 3 clientes: 192.168.0.1 192.168.0.2 192.168.0.3 Tenho que marcar cada 1 com estacao com uma valor diferente e depois jogar para as classes? Ex: iptables -t mangle -A PREROUTING -i eth1 -d 192.168.0.1 -j MARK --set-mark 1 iptables -t mangle -A PREROUTING -i eth1 -d 192.168.0.2 -j MARK --set-mark 1 iptables -t mangle -A PREROUTING -i eth1 -d 192.168.0.3 -j MARK --set-mark 2 iptables -t mangle -A PREROUTING -i eth1 -d 192.168.0.1 -j RETURN iptables -t mangle -A PREROUTING -i eth1 -d 192.168.0.3 -j RETURN iptables -t mangle -A PREROUTING -i eth1 -d 192.168.0.2 -j RETURN tc filter add dev eth0 parent 1: protocol ip handle 1 fw classid 1:11 tc filter add dev eth0 parent 1: protocol ip handle 2 fw classid 1:20 é isso? E quando uso squid? Fiz uma teste e para quem usa proxy a navegação parece que fica meio louca. TEm alguem que tem que fazer? Não testei 100%, mas provavelmente de problemas... Olá! Legal que entendeu o espírito do controle de banda e está funcionando! Quanto a marcar pacotes pelos destinos da sua rede internet, este deve ser feito depois de roteamento, pois o pacote chega na eth1 (PREROUTING) com o IP de destino do seu firewall, o qual verifica na sua tabela de roteamento para qual IP da rede internet se destina este pacote, então troca o IP dele pelo IP da sua rede interna e então manda o pacote para sua interface de rede interna eth0 (POSTROUTING), aí sim entram nas regras do TC. Dessa forma o correto seria: iptables -t mangle -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -d 192.168.0.1 -j MARK --set-mark 1 iptables -t mangle -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -d 192.168.0.1 -j RETURN iptables -t mangle -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -d 192.168.0.2 -j MARK --set-mark 1 iptables -t mangle -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -d 192.168.0.2 -j RETURN iptables -t mangle -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -d 192.168.0.3 -j MARK --set-mark 2 iptables -t mangle -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -d 192.168.0.3 -j RETURN tc filter add dev eth0 parent 1: protocol ip handle 1 fw classid 1:11 tc filter add dev eth0 parent 1: protocol ip handle 2 fw classid 1:20 Veja que o RETURN fica abaixo de cada regra para que o firewall não passe pelas outras desnecessariamente. Veja também que os pacotes já foram marcados com 1 quando chegaram da internet, então apenas precisa marcar com 2 os que não fazem parte do balaio, sendo dessa forma desnecessárias as 4 primeiras linhas acima. Ainda pode organizar e subdividir sua rede interna em classes de IP para não ficar fazendo regras 1 a 1. Por exemplo, IPs de 192.168.0.0 a 192.168.0.7 são da classe 192.168.0.0/29, os de 192.168.0.1 a 192.168.0.15 são da classe 192.168.0.8/29, de 192.168.0.128 a 192.168.0.255 da classe 192.168.0.0/25, aí é só marcar a classe de IP e filtrar cada marca para uma classe do TC, e assim não vai precisar fazer IP a IP. []'s Junior Polegato -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cb5a1fb.80...@juniorpolegato.com.br -- Att, Maiquel
Re: Controle de Banda Debian Lenny
Em 13-10-2010 14:29, Maiquel Consalter escreveu: Ola Junior, seguinte explicarei a topologia que tenho. --172.16.0.0/16--eth1---FW---tun0-- http://172.16.0.0/16--eth1---FW---tun0--m Internet - LINK 1024k. Preciso controlar o trafego da máquina 172.16.0.4, onde tudo que vem na porta 3389 de entrada e saida tenha 512kb, o http, https e ssh 400kb, e o restante 112. Porém fiz as regras semelhante a postada, mas so cai na classe 3. minhas regras: http://pastebin.com/FZj32JZm Obrigado pela ajuda. Olá, Use -A em vez de -I na marcação do pacotes. []'s Junior Polegato
Re: Controle de Banda Debian Lenny
Em 13-10-2010 14:56, Maiquel Consalter escreveu: Junior, desconfio que funcionou, o que acha? Maiquel, aparentemente sim, tem fazer ping para usar a classe 30, download via navegador para usar a classe 20 e a 10 já está sendo usada. Veja nos dois sentidos e como se comporta a divisão de banda. Usando o -I você estava colocando a regra no topo da lista, assim sempre encontrava um RETURN antes de um MARK, de forma que nenhum pacote estava sendo marcado, o iptables-save -t mangle pode te mostrar isso. Use o -I com cuidado quando quer colocar uma regra em determinada posição ou no top da lista de regras e sempre verifique a lista final com iptables-save -t mangle. []'s Junior Polegato -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cb5f470.3040...@juniorpolegato.com.br
cups Duvida
Boa tarde! Estou com duvida, para montar o servidor cups, procurei no google mas não entendi, depois de montado o servidor cups, é necessário instalar o drive da impressora no servidor? como posso fazer isso via console ? -- Att Anderson Bertling
Re: cups Duvida
2010/10/13 Anderson Bertling andersonbertl...@gmail.com: Boa tarde! Estou com duvida, para montar o servidor cups, procurei no google mas não entendi, depois de montado o servidor cups, é necessário instalar o drive da impressora no servidor? como posso fazer isso via console ? Sim, precisa instalar o driver da impressora somente no servidor. Sim, pode fazer via console, mas melhor fazer via a interface web, libere o acesso remoto, e poderá configurar de qualquer computador da rede (ou internet). O arquivo principal e o /etc/cups/cupsd.conf Nos clientes, basta o cupslib (provavelmente já instalados). Programas que usam o cups, vão achar as impressoras da rede automaticamente. (se configurar o servidor, cupsd, corretamente) -- Paulino Kenji Sato http://www.nobel.com.br -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktimeqdpxy7na4cgpwmbph_poopstxptsws3rw...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Re: Re: [OFF TOPIC] Qual é a melhor configuraca o para modem e roteador wireless?
Adauto, tux e colegas, Consegui resolver parte do problema. Esta bem mais rapida e estável. nao ta caindo mais. Fiz um mix entre as sugestoes que recebi. Eu percebi que o sistema estava perdendo a rota e que o problema era no roteador, pois quando eu tentava conectar no roteador pelo ip dele, dava site not found ou atingiu o tempo limite. Quando eu tentava conectar ao modem, tambem pelo ip, demoravaa. Quando eu fazia uma conexao do meu micro para um outro micro da rede, a velocidade era altissima e era estável. Lembrando que a rede lan se conectava pelo rotedor wireless. Entao, conclui que havia um problema na passagem de dados do roteador para o modem. Ao inves de desabilitar o dhcp no modem, eu o desabilitei no roteador e mantive o dhcp habilitado no modem. Ajustei os dns no modem. No modem mantive o ip 192.1.1.1 e no roteador mantive 192.168.1.2 (wan) estático com gw 192.1.1.1. A LAN no roteador ficou como 10.1.1.1 (que é o endereco dele para administrar). Se digito o IP 192.168.1.2 no navegador, não acha nada (?!). Mas, para se conectar, via wireless, o NM teve que ser ajustado para usar IP fixo na faixa 10.1.1.xxx em todos os computadores, pois eles não conseguiram obter um IP por meio do dhcp do modem. Pergunto: o que preciso fazer para que os micros consigam pegar um ip (192.168.1.xxx) a partir do modem, mas fazendo a autenticação no rotedor por meio de conexao wireless? Um abracao -- Marcelo Luiz de Laia www.ufvjm.edu.br/floresta Diamantina - MG - Brasil (Brazil) Linux user number 487797 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktiknbla26vt++d1ywgmtgts2fajkodvynpcam...@mail.gmail.com
Oi 3G + Modem Onda MSA405HS
Pessoal, estou às voltas com um problema chato aqui. Uso Debian na versão testing. Estou com um acesso móvel Velox 3G Oi, usando um modem originalmente da Tim, Onda MSA405HS. Não tenho problema com o modem em si, creio eu, mas não consigo estabelecer a conexão com o wvdial. Tentei várias configurações, mas não obtive sucesso. O comando de discagem não retorna nada. Fiquei um pouco confuso, cheguei a ver algo relacionado a PIN, e tal, não entendi. Alguém tem uma configuração do wvdial que realmente funcione? Estou precisando ativar esse acesso com urgência. Obrigado a todos. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktik7ehfovicbt3kdr40qiax_qjmferoktlcja...@mail.gmail.com
[DEBIAN] script para baixar dados
galera, eu to me batendo para criar um script que baixe 'uma tonelada' de arquivos PDF de um site, mas to apanhando horrores... acontece que pelo site já abaixa automaticamente, quando se acessa a página... eu não consigo chegar lá exemplo: estrando no navegador, se acesso a página: http://www.in.gov.br/imprensa/visualiza/index.jsp?jornal=20pagina=1data=13/10/2010 ele automaticamente já baixa o arquivo.. da página 1 é preciso fazer isso várias vezes, (as vezes mais de 2000), mudando a página para ter o arquivo completo... ai no bash fiz vários testes... mas nenhum deles abre a página 'seguinte', que é o download 'automático'.. se alguém tiver uma dica de como fazer os downloads de uma 'tacada' só, agradeço!! DETALHE: ele sempre baixa o arquivo com o mesmo nome... teria que renomear na hora de gravar... []s Sena -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cb65c76.50...@gmail.com
[DEBIAN] script para baixar dados
galera, eu to me batendo para criar um script que baixe 'uma tonelada' de arquivos PDF de um site, mas to apanhando horrores... acontece que pelo site já abaixa automaticamente, quando se acessa a página... eu não consigo chegar lá exemplo: estrando no navegador, se acesso a página: http://www.in.gov.br/imprensa/visualiza/index.jsp?jornal=20pagina=1data=13/10/2010 ele automaticamente já baixa o arquivo.. da página 1 é preciso fazer isso várias vezes, (as vezes mais de 2000), mudando a página para ter o arquivo completo... ai no bash fiz vários testes... mas nenhum deles abre a página 'seguinte', que é o download 'automático'.. se alguém tiver uma dica de como fazer os downloads de uma 'tacada' só, agradeço!! DETALHE: ele sempre baixa o arquivo com o mesmo nome... teria que renomear na hora de gravar... []s Sena -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cb65c1f.6060...@gmail.com
Re: [DEBIAN] script para baixar dados
Não seria mais fácil fazer um robozinho no PHP ou no Java para baixar esses arquivos para você ? Saudações, Humberto Araujo de Sousa humbe...@dontec.com.br (62) 3223-0652 (62) 9299-7771 Em 13/10/2010 22:27, roberval.s...@gmail.com escreveu: galera, eu to me batendo para criar um script que baixe 'uma tonelada' de arquivos PDF de um site, mas to apanhando horrores... acontece que pelo site já abaixa automaticamente, quando se acessa a página... eu não consigo chegar lá exemplo: estrando no navegador, se acesso a página: http://www.in.gov.br/imprensa/visualiza/index.jsp?jornal=20pagina=1data=13/10/2010 ele automaticamente já baixa o arquivo.. da página 1 é preciso fazer isso várias vezes, (as vezes mais de 2000), mudando a página para ter o arquivo completo... ai no bash fiz vários testes... mas nenhum deles abre a página 'seguinte', que é o download 'automático'.. se alguém tiver uma dica de como fazer os downloads de uma 'tacada' só, agradeço!! DETALHE: ele sempre baixa o arquivo com o mesmo nome... teria que renomear na hora de gravar... []s Sena -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cb660bb.6020...@dontec.com.br
Re: Video Mobile Intel GM45 Express Chipset
Bruno, Conseguiu falar com seu amigo ? Tentei trocar o power-manager mais o problema ainda persiste. Tentei até desativar o gnome-power-manager, mas mesmo assim ainda continua. É algo que não me afeta na usabilidade pelo mesmo ainda, mas me incomoda muito :( um abraço, Adauto Serpa Em 12 de outubro de 2010 23:29, Bruno bruno.marques...@gmail.com escreveu: Amigo, tenho um colega de trabalho que possui o mesmo notebook. Ele usa Debian (squeeze) e tinha o mesmo problema, mas relatou que o mesmo parou após um upgrade há alguns meses atrás. Experimente trocar de ambiente por um tempo (troque o gnome-power-manager pelo xfce4-power-manager) e veja se o problema persiste. Amanhã eu pergunto para o meu colega se ele precisou fazer alguma configuração extra ou desfazer uma gambiarra que já existia. Abraços! On 10/12/2010 11:20 PM, Adauto Serpa wrote: Pessoal, Estou vendo a Squeeze ficando estável, porém meu video Intel Mobile Intel® GM45 Express Chipset ainda continua dando umas picadas aleatórias. Como isso me incomoda é muito chato tem que pisca várias vezes. Não sei se realmente é o video ou algo referente ao gerenciamento de energia. Já vi esse bug nas listas do Ubuntu ! Alguém sabe se esse bug já foi reportado no Debian ? Meu notebook é um Lenovo G550 Aqui tem a especificação técnica http://www.lenovo.com/shop/la/pdf/pt/products/notebooks/essentials/g-series/Lenovo%20G550%20-%20295873PSM.pdf um abraço, -- Adauto Serpa Tecnólogo em Informática Jabber: adautose...@jabber.org Email: adautose...@gmail.com MSN: junio...@hotmail.com
Re: Re: Re: [OFF TOPIC] Qual é a melhor configuraca o para modem e roteador wireless?
Marcelo, O problema é que você está utilizando duas mascaras de IPs diferentes, se não quiser seguir minha sugestão, você terá que fazer o seguinte: No modem colocar ip 10.1.1.1 e desabilitar o DHCP No Roteador colocar na porta Wan o ip 10.1.1.2, Gateway 10.1.1.1 e Dns 10.1.1.1, na Lan 192.168.1.1 e Habilitar o DHCP com mascara 192.168.1.0(Ex do range de ip 192.168.1.100-199) Bom acho que é isso ! Adauto Serpa Em 13 de outubro de 2010 17:38, Marcelo Laia marcelol...@gmail.comescreveu: Adauto, tux e colegas, Consegui resolver parte do problema. Esta bem mais rapida e estável. nao ta caindo mais. Fiz um mix entre as sugestoes que recebi. Eu percebi que o sistema estava perdendo a rota e que o problema era no roteador, pois quando eu tentava conectar no roteador pelo ip dele, dava site not found ou atingiu o tempo limite. Quando eu tentava conectar ao modem, tambem pelo ip, demoravaa. Quando eu fazia uma conexao do meu micro para um outro micro da rede, a velocidade era altissima e era estável. Lembrando que a rede lan se conectava pelo rotedor wireless. Entao, conclui que havia um problema na passagem de dados do roteador para o modem. Ao inves de desabilitar o dhcp no modem, eu o desabilitei no roteador e mantive o dhcp habilitado no modem. Ajustei os dns no modem. No modem mantive o ip 192.1.1.1 e no roteador mantive 192.168.1.2 (wan) estático com gw 192.1.1.1. A LAN no roteador ficou como 10.1.1.1 (que é o endereco dele para administrar). Se digito o IP 192.168.1.2 no navegador, não acha nada (?!). Mas, para se conectar, via wireless, o NM teve que ser ajustado para usar IP fixo na faixa 10.1.1.xxx em todos os computadores, pois eles não conseguiram obter um IP por meio do dhcp do modem. Pergunto: o que preciso fazer para que os micros consigam pegar um ip (192.168.1.xxx) a partir do modem, mas fazendo a autenticação no rotedor por meio de conexao wireless? Um abracao -- Marcelo Luiz de Laia www.ufvjm.edu.br/floresta Diamantina - MG - Brasil (Brazil) Linux user number 487797
Re: cups Duvida
Paulinho Kenji, Umas das coisa que ainda não consegui fazer é utilizar o Cups dessa forma, ou seja, instalando apenas o cups-libs(Cups-client), bom sempre instalei um Cups Server para imprimir no servidor Cups onde a impressora estava instalada. Você tem alguma dica para utilização do modo que você falou via Cups-Client ? um abraço, -- Adauto Serpa Tecnólogo em Informática Jabber: adautose...@jabber.org Email: adautose...@gmail.com MSN: junio...@hotmail.com Em 13 de outubro de 2010 16:13, Paulino Kenji Sato pks...@gmail.comescreveu: 2010/10/13 Anderson Bertling andersonbertl...@gmail.com: Boa tarde! Estou com duvida, para montar o servidor cups, procurei no google mas não entendi, depois de montado o servidor cups, é necessário instalar o drive da impressora no servidor? como posso fazer isso via console ? Sim, precisa instalar o driver da impressora somente no servidor. Sim, pode fazer via console, mas melhor fazer via a interface web, libere o acesso remoto, e poderá configurar de qualquer computador da rede (ou internet). O arquivo principal e o /etc/cups/cupsd.conf Nos clientes, basta o cupslib (provavelmente já instalados). Programas que usam o cups, vão achar as impressoras da rede automaticamente. (se configurar o servidor, cupsd, corretamente) -- Paulino Kenji Sato http://www.nobel.com.br -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktimeqdpxy7na4cgpwmbph_poopstxptsws3rw...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Video Mobile Intel GM45 Express Chipset
Em 13-10-2010 23:07, Adauto Serpa escreveu: Bruno, Conseguiu falar com seu amigo ? Tentei trocar o power-manager mais o problema ainda persiste. Tentei até desativar o gnome-power-manager, mas mesmo assim ainda continua. É algo que não me afeta na usabilidade pelo mesmo ainda, mas me incomoda muito :( um abraço, Adauto Serpa Em 12 de outubro de 2010 23:29, Bruno bruno.marques.br http://bruno.marques.br@gmail.com http://gmail.com escreveu: Amigo, tenho um colega de trabalho que possui o mesmo notebook. Ele usa Debian (squeeze) e tinha o mesmo problema, mas relatou que o mesmo parou após um upgrade há alguns meses atrás. Experimente trocar de ambiente por um tempo (troque o gnome-power-manager pelo xfce4-power-manager) e veja se o problema persiste. Amanhã eu pergunto para o meu colega se ele precisou fazer alguma configuração extra ou desfazer uma gambiarra que já existia. Abraços! On 10/12/2010 11:20 PM, Adauto Serpa wrote: Pessoal, Estou vendo a Squeeze ficando estável, porém meu video Intel Mobile Intel® GM45 Express Chipset ainda continua dando umas picadas aleatórias. Como isso me incomoda é muito chato tem que pisca várias vezes. Não sei se realmente é o video ou algo referente ao gerenciamento de energia. Já vi esse bug nas listas do Ubuntu ! Alguém sabe se esse bug já foi reportado no Debian ? Meu notebook é um Lenovo G550 Aqui tem a especificação técnica http://www.lenovo.com/shop/la/pdf/pt/products/notebooks/essentials/g-series/Lenovo%20G550%20-%20295873PSM.pdf um abraço, -- Adauto Serpa Tecnólogo em Informática Jabber: adautose...@jabber.org mailto:adautose...@jabber.org Email: adautose...@gmail.com mailto:adautose...@gmail.com MSN: junio...@hotmail.com mailto:junio...@hotmail.com Engraçado, eu tenho o mesmo modelo que o seu ( G550), tudo ocorrendo na mais perfeita tranquilidade( debian squeeze + gnome )! -- User GNU/Linux Debian Site: www.revolutionsfree.com.br Recomendo o uso do Software Livre. Para mais informações visite: www.gnu.org http://www.debian.org/index.pt.html http://softwarelivre.org/ Enviado pelo Mozilla Thunderbird http://br.mozdev.org/thunderbird
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Re: WiFi: nm-applet, nm-editor, replace NetworkManager
On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 05:24:58PM -0400, Mike Viau wrote: OnTue, 12 Oct 2010 14:11:13 -0700 hol...@cox.net wrote: 3. This is not the first time I am having problems with NetworkManager here on Debian, so I think I will get rid of it. The question is how to switch between available WiFi connections without NetworkManager. Wicd from the repos. Much more informative than nm. A question about Wicid. * ability to connect to (and maintain profiles for) both wired and wireless networks; So does this mean that wicid can _not_ control/setup network bridges (e.g: with brctl)? Not sure. Try the wicd forum. -- Bob Holtzman Key ID: 8D549279 If you think you're getting free lunch, check the price of the beer signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: tools to improve harddisk performance by short-stroking?
On 2010年10月10日 05:45, Andrei Popescu wrote: IMVHO, I think at least part of the speed increase is based on the fact that the head(s) *never* travel to the back of the harddisk. A brief search found most of the files on my harddisks are *never* accessed (since the Debian system installation).
Re: tools to improve harddisk performance by short-stroking?
I noticed I can find out files that were never accessed after the 1st month I installed my debian without any accounting mechanism but only by atime. In fact, if I pick up a random file on my system, the chance it was never accessed since after 1month of debian installation is a bit higher than it was. On 2010年10月08日 12:42, Tom Furie wrote: How do you determine the atime without accessing the file Checking a file's atime is not considered accessing it. almust...@orphalese:~$ find Music/ -atime +147 Music/Flamenco. Una antologia de cante y baile andaluces - Poema de la guitarra (rito y geografia del Toque) - Vol. 1 de 4.avi Music/Hans_Zimmer-Sherlock_Holmes_OST-2010-FRAY/06-hans_zimmer-hes_killed_the_dog_again.mp3 Music/Hans_Zimmer-Sherlock_Holmes_OST-2010-FRAY/08-hans_zimmer-not_in_blood_but_in_bond.mp3 Music/Hans_Zimmer-Sherlock_Holmes_OST-2010-FRAY/10-hans_zimmer-panic_sheer_bloody_panic.mp3 Music/Hans_Zimmer-Sherlock_Holmes_OST-2010-FRAY/07-hans_zimmer-marital_sabotage.mp3 Music/Hans_Zimmer-Sherlock_Holmes_OST-2010-FRAY/05-hans_zimmer-data_data_data.mp3 Music/Hans_Zimmer-Sherlock_Holmes_OST-2010-FRAY/09-hans_zimmer-ah_putrefaction.mp3 almust...@orphalese:~$ sleep 10 almust...@orphalese:~$ find Music/ -atime +147 Music/Flamenco. Una antologia de cante y baile andaluces - Poema de la guitarra (rito y geografia del Toque) - Vol. 1 de 4.avi Music/Hans_Zimmer-Sherlock_Holmes_OST-2010-FRAY/06-hans_zimmer-hes_killed_the_dog_again.mp3 Music/Hans_Zimmer-Sherlock_Holmes_OST-2010-FRAY/08-hans_zimmer-not_in_blood_but_in_bond.mp3 Music/Hans_Zimmer-Sherlock_Holmes_OST-2010-FRAY/10-hans_zimmer-panic_sheer_bloody_panic.mp3 Music/Hans_Zimmer-Sherlock_Holmes_OST-2010-FRAY/07-hans_zimmer-marital_sabotage.mp3 Music/Hans_Zimmer-Sherlock_Holmes_OST-2010-FRAY/05-hans_zimmer-data_data_data.mp3 Music/Hans_Zimmer-Sherlock_Holmes_OST-2010-FRAY/09-hans_zimmer-ah_putrefaction.mp3 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cb55270.9010...@realss.com
Re: Installing avahi-daemon crashes kernel, corrupts filesystem
On 12 October 2010 19:49, Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi wrote: Jason Heeris jason.hee...@gmail.com writes: Yay. I'll build one on my PC. Ah. To save me more trouble, can anyone tell me what the key is to building a kernel exactly the same as what's in linux-image-2.6.32-5-486? I'm on a PC with amd64 arch, so I created a i386 chroot: sudo debootstrap --arch i386 squeeze ia32-chroot http://ftp.iinet.net.au/debian/debian I installed linux-source-2.6.32 (actually from sid, since the one in squeeze FTBs). Unpack the source, and: linux32 make menuconfig ...selecting 486 processor family. Then: linux32 make-kpkg clean CONCURRENCY_LEVEL=4 linux32 make-kpkg --initrd --append-to-version=-custom1 kernel_image kernel_debug The resulting kernel does not find the root fs, so clearly it is somehow different to what's in the archive. Where can I get the exact config for the official 486 kernel? Cheers, Jason -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlkti=rdtxvqnfbnhmqecbznjwu04pxk-swyca2-...@mail.gmail.com
Re: KDE Question
Dne, 12. 10. 2010 23:47:45 je Camaleón napisal(a): Another option is switching to other desktop, like GNOME. That was the path I took. Yep, me too. Like Lisi, I needed a desktop environment to get work done, not to s/look/curse/g at. -- Regards, Klistvud Certifiable Loonix User #481801 http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1286952611.1391...@compax
Re: Installing avahi-daemon crashes kernel, corrupts filesystem
On 13 October 2010 14:45, Jason Heeris jason.hee...@gmail.com wrote: To save me more trouble, can anyone tell me what the key is to building a kernel exactly the same as what's in linux-image-2.6.32-5-486? More RTFMing required on my part, sorry. In the DEBIAN.Readme for the linux-image source package: Each linux-image-* package provides the complete .config file that was used to generate it. This file is installed in /boot. So I found it in the deb package. — Jason -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlkti�rheuhwznzv3mfb5_j_44snq6zr9k0jdn...@mail.gmail.com
Re: --set-selections - help needed to use this
On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 02:30:38 + (UTC) s. keeling keel...@nucleus.com wrote: No offense meant, but wrong attitude. I've been saying this since ca. '97: try again. The more installs you try, the more you learn about the box and the more you know of what you need to know. You learn more about the installer and its capabilities, and what software you want/like/dislike. FFS, it's fun doing it, because you KNOW it's eventually going to work, no matter how bleeding edge is your hardware. The best way to truly know how something works it to totally break it then have to fix it ;) Or, at least that's been my experience. Have fun with it man. Bang your head on the wall until it falls over! Worst case, burn a backup first, then re-install. Sheesh. :-) -- Regards, Angus Hedger Debian GNU/Linux User PGP Public Key 0xEE6A4B97 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: KDE Question
On Tue, 12 Oct 2010 19:11:29 -0700, Kelly Clowers wrote: On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 15:39, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: use plain desktop, disable akonadi, strigi and that stuff, forget activities, return to the standard icons on the desktop.. Out of all the awesome things in KDE4 why would disable some of the very best? Because they tend to make plasma crashing, more often than we would like. And semantic desktop (nepomuk, akonadi, strigi) is indeed a nice feature... when all the components play nice together (this is an ongoing work, not fully accomplished right now). Also, it can be very resource intensive and old computers can face problems. But again, I think the point is that people can get what they want, and that was precisely the main advantage of KDE (user customization). I have to admit that KDE 4.0 was a disaster but nowadays is perfectly workable. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.10.13.07.41...@gmail.com
Re: KDE Question
On Tue October 12 2010 22:46:14 Kelly Clowers wrote: Akonadi and Strigi and similar technologies are critical to taking the desktop to the next level of efficiency and effectiveness. Admittedly, that's still in the early stages, but it is clearly where we need to go. People are working fine in KDE 3 without Akonadi and Strigi and NEPOMUK. People try KDE 4 and work slower. I don't object to your choice of KDE 4 as a religion, but please don't expect people who have to work for a living to waste their time worshipping KDE 4 during office hours. Maybe one day the semantic web and the semantic desktop will become useful. Maybe not. For now, the internet and KDE 3 are what works. --Mike Bird -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201010130052.36788.mgb-deb...@yosemite.net
Re: WiFi: nm-applet, nm-editor, replace NetworkManager
Lisi schreef: On Tuesday 12 October 2010 18:17:15 Stanisław Findeisen wrote: The question is how to switch between available WiFi connections without NetworkManager. wicd? $ aptitude show wicd Package: wicd ... Description: wired and wireless network manager Wicd is a general-purpose network configuration server which aims to provide a simple but flexible interface for connecting to networks. Its features include: wide variety of settings. * ability to connect to (and maintain profiles for) both wired and wireless networks; * support for many encryption schemes, including WEP, WPA, WPA2 and custom schemes; * wireless-tools compatibility; * tray icon showing network activity and signal strength; * lack of GNOME dependencies (although it does require GTK+), making it easy to use in Xfce, Fluxbox, Openbox, Enlightenment, etc. Homepage: http://wicd.sourceforge.net/ Sjoerd signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: WiFi: nm-applet, nm-editor, replace NetworkManager
Robert Holtzman schreef: On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 05:24:58PM -0400, Mike Viau wrote: OnTue, 12 Oct 2010 14:11:13 -0700 hol...@cox.net wrote: 3. This is not the first time I am having problems with NetworkManager here on Debian, so I think I will get rid of it. The question is how to switch between available WiFi connections without NetworkManager. Wicd from the repos. Much more informative than nm. A question about Wicid. * ability to connect to (and maintain profiles for) both wired and wireless networks; So does this mean that wicid can _not_ control/setup network bridges (e.g: with brctl)? Not sure. Try the wicd forum. It doesn't. I understood support for bridging networks is planned for some illustrious wicd v2 Sjoerd signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
SOLVED was: Re: --set-selections - help needed to use this
On Tuesday 12 October 2010 14:47:56 Lisi wrote: I was starting to see arrows pointing every which way! So I have temporarily shelved the problem. I'll come back to it later. I was obviously doing something wrong - it is installing as I speak. Thanks for all the help. Camaleón's link worked well this morning! http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/columns/copying_debian_package_selections_new_machine I obviously needed a break. So PEBKAC after all. :-( Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201010130908.54926.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Рaбота ЧП в 2011
-- | Вce для ЧАСТHОГО ПРEДПPИНИМАТЕЛЯ. | | Oгрaничений пo юридичeским, буxгалтeрским, инфоpмационным... в 2011 г. нe будeт!!! - | | нo будeт нeчто неoжидaнное. | | Чтo нужнo cрoчно узнaть ужe cейчас прo пeрспективы зaконoдательства, | | чтoбы в 2011 г. нe «слетeть» c единогo налогa? | -- Cеминaр • 21 oктября • 2010 г. г. Kиeв • ул. Шелковичнaя, 12 Тeл.: (044) 331-б4-14, 592-75-6Ч ПPOГPАММА 1. Bзноcы в Пeнсиoнный фoнд (c 2011 г.- EДИНЫЙ COЦИAЛЬНЫЙ BЗНОС): кaк пpaвильно pacсчитать зa июль-cентябpь (в т.ч. для членoв ceмьи). Kто тaкиe члeны cемьи и кaк опpеделяется- учаcтвуют ли oни в пpедпринимательской деятeльнoсти. Срoк уплaты, подaча oтчeтoв: какиe нюaнсы сущеcтвуют сeгoдня - кaк этo будeт c 2011 г. 2. Paбота CОДPУЖЕСТВА нecкoльких ЧП и пpeдприятия: покупaть у ЧП или дeлaть парaллельно. Пpeвышeние 500 тыc. • скoлько нужнo ЧП? НAХОЖДЕНИЕ ВСEХ в ОДHОМ OФФИСE. Еcли coдружество связaнные лицa. Pабoта пoд oднoй торгoвой мapкoй. CОТРУДНИЧЕСТВО ФИPМЫ и ЧП c 2011г. - успеeм пoдготовиться. 3. СOТРУДНИЧЕСТВО ФИPМЫ и ЧП: нaкaзание, еcли 50% обoрота c oднoй фиpмoй. Кoгдa oпepации пoпaдaют пoд финмoниторинг. 4. ПОCPЕДНИЧЕСКАЯ ДEЯТEЛЬНОСТЬ: oдин из caмыx пеpcпективных видoв дeятeльнoсти 2011. Чeм кoмисcия отличaeтся oт поручeния, тpaнспортной экcпедиции, дpугих посpеднических дoговоров. ЧТO ДEЛAТЬ СEГOДНЯ ПОCPЕДНИКАМ нa ПPOВЕРКЕ - cегодняшняя судебнaя пpактикa. 5. BИДЫ ДEЯТЕЛЬНОСТИ ЧП (провeрки выплaт пo видaм дeятельности, нe внeceнным в Cвидетeльство eдинoгo нaлoга: кaк сегoдня мoжнo гаpантированно oтбитьcя): пpоблeм c зaпpeтом «нужныx» видoв дeятельности (пpaвовые, бухгaлтерские, инфoрмaционные, тоpговля (оптовaя, pозничная)……) пoxоже нe будeт- тeм нe мeнее 70 % пpедпринимателей, котoрые сeйчaс нa «единoм» дoлжны будут пеpeйти нa oбщую cиcтeму: этo мoжно прeдотвратить( «пoдводныe кaмни» Нaлoгового кодекcа). Aрeнда пocлe 1.01.2011 будeт чаcтичнo зaпрeщена. Удepжание eдиногo cоциaльного взнoса пpи выплaтe доxода пpeдпринимателю - кaк этo зaвисит oт видoв дeятeльности. 6. ПРОBЕРКИ. ВHИМАНИЕ! Пpaктикум - кaк пpoвeрить ceбя пeред пpoверкой, чтoбы нe попаcть в штpаф 2,5 млн! (пpи oбoроте 500 тыc.). Кaк мoжно обжaлoвать aкт прoверки. Обжaлoвание поcтановлений нa завeдeние уголoвныx дeл. Kритeрии, пo котоpым мoжно спpoгнозировать интeнсивнoсть непpиятностей нa пpовeрке. ПРOBЕРКИ: участкoвых, гoспотребстандарта (зaщиты пoтребителей), ГCБЭП (УБEП), УБOП... - кaк спрaвиться c пoследствиями бeз потеpь, нa чтo мoжнo ссылaться пpи незaкoнных пpовeрках. Уплатa HДФЛ c дoлгов c 2010 г. Новaя «paзнaрядка» пo пpоверке теx, ктo зaнимается тopгoвлей (оптовoй, рoзничнoй) - уcпeйте подгoтовиться. ГРУБОE HАРУШЕНИЕ ЗAKOНОДАТЕЛЬСТВА ПPО ТPУД: c чeм сегoдня cталкиваются предпpиниматели, какиe oшибки пpивoдят к УГОЛОBНОЙ ОТBEТСТВЕННОСТИ. 7. ФИHМОНИТОРИНГ ужe действуeт c aвгуcтa 2010: кaкиx опepаций нe cтоит пpовoдить. Дoполнительный монитоpинг имущecтва. Пepечень всeх допoлнитeльных уcлoвий пpи кoтopых неожидaнно мoжнo попacть пoд финмoниторинг. 8. ШТPAФЫ зa ОТСУТCТВИЕ приxoдных дoкумeнтов нa товаp: 2-крaтный pазмер, 45% ….? Kак пpавильнo зaщитить cвoи пpавa. 9. Bыдaча дoкумeнтoв нa пoкупку тoвapа (уcлуг) – мoжно ли нe имeть докумeнты нa пpиxод тoваpа, чтo делaть, еcли иx нeт. Hовая прaктика пpоверок c кoнца 2009, 2010. 10. Отpажение выpучки пoсле каждoй опeрации: откудa взялoсь тpeбoвание, аргумeнты пpoтив. 11. Штpaф зa нe учeт тoварно-материальных ценнocтей - пoчему покa peдкo примeняется нa пpaктикe. 12. HAЕМНЫЕ РAБOТНИКИ. Заключeниe грaжданско-правовых договoров c paбoтниками: c кaкими кaтегориями рaботников нeльзя зaключать, сpaвнительная таблицa нaлогoобложения пo тpудoвoму и грaжданско-правовому. ГРAЖДAНСКО-ПРАВОВЫЕ ДОГОBОРА C PAБOТНИКАМИ - нoвaя пoзиция 2010 Пенcиoнного фoнда пo дoговoрам нaлoгoобложения уcлуг, поpядoк нaчисления и oтражения в отчeтности единогo социaльного взнocа - инновaционные измeнения. 13. KHИГA пo ф № 10: почeму ни в кoeм случae еe HEЛЬЗЯ ТЕPЯТЬ (пoследняя пoзиция ГHАУ). Рacсмотрение пopядка зaпoлнeния грaф рaсходов и дoxoдов. Штрaфы зa непpавильное зaпoлнeние. Пеpиодичность запoлнения (eжедневно...), мoгут ли оштpафовать ЧП, сдeлав контpольную зaкупку, невeдение учeтa тoвapов пo мecту pеaлизации . Запoлнeние гpaфы раcходов - 3 вapиaнта. Kак вecти рacходы бeз пoдтвeрждающих дoкументoв. 14. НАЛИЧHОЕ ДЕHEЖНОЕ ОБPAЩЕНИЕ. Какиe дoкументы выдaвать покупaтелю (BЫДAЧА ВCEГДА - A НE
Re: --set-selections - help needed to use this
On Wednesday 13 October 2010 03:30:38 s. keeling wrote: Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com: I think I'll give it one more try using your link and any tips other people have given me by then, and if I still can't do it I'll just install normally. No offense meant, None taken! Thanks for the reply. but wrong attitude. I've been saying this since ca. '97: try again. The more installs you try, the more you learn about the box and the more you know of what you need to know. You learn more about the installer and its capabilities, and what software you want/like/dislike. FFS, it's fun doing it, because you KNOW it's eventually going to work, no matter how bleeding edge is your hardware. Or, at least that's been my experience. Have fun with it man. Bang your head on the wall until it falls over! This is my usual policy/habit - frequently seen by others as a character flaw ;-). But the owner of the box had already asked me to give up trying to save his old box :-(, and I have to get this new one to him in the near future or his (not my!) patience will run out. Worst case, burn a backup first, then re-install. :-) Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201010130915.31240.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: KDE Question
In 201010130052.36788.mgb-deb...@yosemite.net, Mike Bird wrote: On Tue October 12 2010 22:46:14 Kelly Clowers wrote: Akonadi and Strigi and similar technologies are critical to taking the desktop to the next level of efficiency and effectiveness. Admittedly, that's still in the early stages, but it is clearly where we need to go. People are working fine in KDE 3 without Akonadi and Strigi and NEPOMUK. People try KDE 4 and work slower. I don't object to your choice of KDE 4 as a religion, but please don't expect people who have to work for a living to waste their time worshipping KDE 4 during office hours. I use KDE at work and at home and I've been using KDE SC 4 ever since 4.2 was released. By that time, I was able to configure my Plasma desktop the way Kicker + KDesktop worked in KDE 3. Plasma was also much more stable that the 4.1 or 4.0 release, still I would occasionally have to restart it until 4.3 came out. I used it without Akonadi until KDE SC 4.4, when KMail would hang while sending mails unless I installed Akonadi. While I dislike their back-end of choice, I've not noticed any slow downs due to Akonadi. It mostly just worked, even when Kontact/KMail indicated that their might be problems. Still haven't seen many benefits of using a common storage backend. Kopete is not a good IM client, and Konversation doesn't seem to tie into Akonadi. Nepomuk is a different story. I've fought with it a number of times for no benefit. It has a habit of slowing down the system just when I need it to be more responsive, so I'll often have to manually turn off the file indexer or the whole Nepomuk infrastructure, finish my work, and manually restart Nepomuk. I've tried semantic searching, and it gave me poor results. I certainly don't do it often, so the CPU cycles indexing and the disk space spend storing the indexes are mainly lost. I've yet to actually see someone using a desktop Plasmoid on a day-to-day basis and getting any type of productivity increase. I put up with KDE SC 4 because it is what is supported in the future. Also, I find that Plasma does actually respond faster than KDesktop + Kicker. But, the new technologies that were supposed to change the way I work? No benefits so far, and they do cause a few problems. Is KDE SC 4 as good as KDE 3? If you ask me, someone who worked and played in KDE 3 and works and plays in KDE SC 4: probably. I know I had some internalized work-arounds for KDE 3's cruft, and the stuff that was available in KDE 3 is now either more consistent or faster or both in KDE SC 4. I do wish people would stop preaching how great Akonadi, Strigi, Nepomuk, etc. are going to be awesome so I have to put up with their crap now. I want a desktop that works, preferrably without your socio-technologic experimentation. If you must include it, it needs to stay the fsck out of my way. KDE SC 4 works for me, but it could be improved. It would be nice if KDE 3 (via Trinity) and KDE SC 4 (via KDE) were both available in Squeeze, even if they were not co-installable. The KDE/Qt packaging team doesn't want to deal with supporting that though, and I know they don't have enough person-power as is. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. b...@iguanasuicide.net ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.net/\_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: KDE Question
Another option is switching to other desktop, like GNOME. That was the path I took. Greetings, Are you satisfied with Gnome? Is he lighter (CPU, RAM) than KDE4? Asking because I think switch to something and still didn’t decide. Fluxbox is favorite for now. -- Bye, Goran Dobosevic Hrvatski: www.dobosevic.com English: www.dobosevic.com/en/ Registered Linux User #503414 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cb5730c.6050...@dobosevic.com
Re: Configure radius to run script under different user
On Tue, 12 Oct 2010 17:00:36 +0100, Jennie Kingsland wrote: Please, don't cross-post. (...) If I run radiusd -X from command line as user support, radius starts up fine. However if I run the startup script as user support from /etc/init.d by entering #./start-my-radius.sh it comes up with error upp...@oxc-rproxy-02:/etc/init.d$ ./start-my-radius.sh radiusd: Cannot initialize supplementary group list for user support: Operation not permitted Know nothing about radius, but radiusd.conf¹ seems to say that radius server has to be started by root user if you change the default user/ group, although after that, it drops its perms and uses the user-defined ones. ¹ http://wiki.freeradius.org/Radiusd.conf Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.10.13.08.58...@gmail.com
Re: KDE Question
On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 10:51:24 +0200, godo wrote: Another option is switching to other desktop, like GNOME. That was the path I took. Are you satisfied with Gnome? Yes, I am. Is he lighter (CPU, RAM) than KDE4? Asking because I think switch to something and still didn’t decide. Fluxbox is favorite for now. All I can tell is that I use GNOME in different desktops (Quadcore 8 GiB / Pentium D 8 GiB / Celeron 1 GiB / VirtualBoxed 1.5 GiB) and in all of them performance is pretty satisfactory. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.10.13.09.04...@gmail.com
Re: KDE Question
But if you still love KDE, just give KDE 4.5 a chance. Spend 15 minutes in setting up the way you liked (meaning: remove all the fancy effects, use plain desktop, disable akonadi, strigi and that stuff, forget activities, return to the standard icons on the desktop...) and you're done. You'll get a plain and simple desktop, the same KDE 3.5 used to be :-) Greetings, -- Camaleón I'm done all that (on Squeeze almost from beginning) and that’s just not it. It's not all in look, it is also in feel and some lost functions. Only thru solution will be continuous KDE3 developing or keeping it in life. I think that I know how Lisi feels. You know it's like first love, nothing can replace it. And I feel the same way. -- Bye, Goran Dobosevic Hrvatski: www.dobosevic.com English: www.dobosevic.com/en/ Registered Linux User #503414 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cb57714.9030...@dobosevic.com
Re: Installing avahi-daemon crashes kernel, corrupts filesystem
On 11 October 2010 18:36, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh h...@debian.org wrote: 3. Reproduce the crash, log *everything* since boot. Before I go off to bugzilla, I just want to check that I've actually got debugging information here, since to me it doesn't look that different. Do I need to boot with a special kernel arg? - Jason Setting up avahi-daemon (0.6.27-2) ... Reloading system message bus config...done. Starting Avahi mDNS/DNS-SD Daemon: avahi-daemon[ 206.608591] BUG: unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at 0004 [ 206.611182] IP: [d08f282c] r6040_multicast_list+0x16d/0x1fd [r6040] [ 206.611182] *pde = [ 206.611182] Oops: [#1] [ 206.611182] last sysfs file: /sys/devices/pci:00/:00:0c.0/class [ 206.611182] Modules linked in: loop snd_pcm snd_timer snd soundcore snd_page_alloc psmouse pcspkr evdev serio_raw ext3 jbd mbcache sd_mod crc_t10dif ohci_hcd pata_it821x libata r6040 ehci_hcd scsi_mod usbcore nls_base mii [last unloaded: scsi_wait_scan] [ 206.611182] [ 206.611182] Pid: 931, comm: avahi-daemon Not tainted (2.6.32-custom1 #3) [ 206.611182] EIP: 0060:[d08f282c] EFLAGS: 0293 CPU: 0 [ 206.611182] EIP is at r6040_multicast_list+0x16d/0x1fd [r6040] [ 206.611182] EAX: 0300 EBX: 0001ee00 ECX: EDX: 0001ee70 [ 206.611182] ESI: ce195800 EDI: EBP: 0005 ESP: c8efdd38 [ 206.611182] DS: 007b ES: 007b FS: GS: 00e0 SS: 0068 [ 206.611182] Process avahi-daemon (pid: 931, ti=c8efc000 task=ce205040 task.ti=c8efc000) [ 206.611182] Stack: [ 206.611182] c8efdd40 0001ee70 01008000 03004000 ce195800 d08f366c 0006 c8efdd7c [ 206.611182] 0 c11b4102 ce195800 c11b8a52 ce18f400 cf8e4de0 ce195800 c11f4aaa [ 206.611182] 0 005e0001 c131fb00 c8e36be0 c11aca9c 00d0 0256 0060 [ 206.611182] Call Trace: [ 206.611182] [c11b4102] ? __dev_set_rx_mode+0x70/0x73 [ 206.611182] [c11b8a52] ? dev_mc_add+0x35/0x40 [ 206.611182] [c11f4aaa] ? igmp_group_added+0x4a/0xec [ 206.611182] [c11aca9c] ? sock_kmalloc+0x25/0x33 [ 206.611182] [c11f4d6f] ? ip_mc_inc_group+0x176/0x189 [ 206.611182] [c11f4e3b] ? ip_mc_join_group+0xb9/0xd4 [ 206.611182] [c11d6391] ? do_ip_setsockopt+0x615/0x922 [ 206.611182] [c103299c] ? autoremove_wake_function+0x0/0x29 [ 206.611182] [c11ec74b] ? udp_lib_get_port+0xd9/0x1e4 [ 206.611182] [c11ec84c] ? udp_lib_get_port+0x1da/0x1e4 [ 206.611182] [c121939e] ? ipv6_rcv_saddr_equal+0x0/0x148 [ 206.611182] [c11109ac] ? copy_from_user+0x2a/0x112 [ 206.611182] [c11a8cde] ? sockfd_lookup_light+0x13/0x3f [ 206.611182] [c11a9be1] ? sys_sendto+0xe8/0x10c [ 206.611182] [c106b336] ? find_get_page+0x11/0x41 [ 206.611182] [c106c77e] ? lock_page+0x8/0x1c [ 206.611182] [c106ca99] ? filemap_fault+0x99/0x2ac [ 206.611182] [c11d66bc] ? ip_setsockopt+0x1e/0x7e [ 206.611182] [c11aab00] ? sock_common_setsockopt+0x12/0x16 [ 206.611182] [c11a8e4a] ? sys_setsockopt+0x6f/0x8b [ 206.611182] [c11aa52c] ? sys_socketcall+0x15a/0x1b3 [ 206.611182] [c100308c] ? syscall_call+0x7/0xb [ 206.611182] Code: 0a e8 a4 04 82 f0 8d 53 64 0f b7 44 24 0c e8 97 04 82 f0 8d 53 66 0f b7 44 24 0e e8 8a 04 82 f0 8d 53 70 31 c9 89 54 24 04 eb 3e 0f b7 47 04 8d 6f 04 8b 54 24 04 89 0c 24 e8 6c 04 82 f0 0f b7 [ 206.611182] EIP: [d08f282c] r6040_multicast_list+0x16d/0x1fd [r6040] SS:ESP 0068:c8efdd38 [ 206.611182] CR2: 0004 [ 206.614410] ---[ end trace 64d0fbed5ba0b043 ]--- [ 206.619171] Kernel panic - not syncing: Fatal exception in interrupt [ 206.625648] Pid: 931, comm: avahi-daemon Tainted: G D2.6.32-custom1 #3 [ 206.629622] Call Trace: [ 206.631653] [c123759f] ? panic+0x38/0xdb [ 206.635964] [c1239270] ? oops_end+0x7e/0x89 [ 206.640538] [c101488e] ? no_context+0x104/0x10d [ 206.645460] [c123a064] ? do_page_fault+0x0/0x267 [ 206.650466] [c10149ce] ? bad_area_nosemaphore+0xa/0xc [ 206.654433] [c123897b] ? error_code+0x6b/0x70 [ 206.656664] [d08f282c] ? r6040_multicast_list+0x16d/0x1fd [r6040] [ 206.663187] [c11b4102] ? __dev_set_rx_mode+0x70/0x73 [ 206.668537] [c11b8a52] ? dev_mc_add+0x35/0x40 [ 206.673276] [c11f4aaa] ? igmp_group_added+0x4a/0xec [ 206.678544] [c11aca9c] ? sock_kmalloc+0x25/0x33 [ 206.682509] [c11f4d6f] ? ip_mc_inc_group+0x176/0x189 [ 206.684808] [c11f4e3b] ? ip_mc_join_group+0xb9/0xd4 [ 206.690074] [c11d6391] ? do_ip_setsockopt+0x615/0x922 [ 206.694043] [c103299c] ? autoremove_wake_function+0x0/0x29 [ 206.697394] [c11ec74b] ? udp_lib_get_port+0xd9/0x1e4 [ 206.702745] [c11ec84c] ? udp_lib_get_port+0x1da/0x1e4 [ 206.706716] [c121939e] ? ipv6_rcv_saddr_equal+0x0/0x148 [ 206.709800] [c11109ac] ? copy_from_user+0x2a/0x112 [ 206.714981] [c11a8cde] ? sockfd_lookup_light+0x13/0x3f [ 206.718947] [c11a9be1] ? sys_sendto+0xe8/0x10c [ 206.721343] [c106b336] ? find_get_page+0x11/0x41 [ 206.726348] [c106c77e] ? lock_page+0x8/0x1c [ 206.730913] [c106ca99] ? filemap_fault+0x99/0x2ac [ 206.734883] [c11d66bc] ?
Re: KDE Question
On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 11:08:36 +0200, godo wrote: But if you still love KDE, just give KDE 4.5 a chance. Spend 15 minutes in setting up the way you liked (meaning: remove all the fancy effects, use plain desktop, disable akonadi, strigi and that stuff, forget activities, return to the standard icons on the desktop...) and you're done. You'll get a plain and simple desktop, the same KDE 3.5 used to be :-) I'm done all that (on Squeeze almost from beginning) and that’s just not it. It's not all in look, it is also in feel and some lost functions. Only thru solution will be continuous KDE3 developing or keeping it in life. I am not aware of any lost of functionality. There are bugs, of course, as KDE 3.5 had (and as KDE SC 4.5 has). We cannot avoid bugs, they come integrated by design :-) I think that I know how Lisi feels. You know it's like first love, nothing can replace it. And I feel the same way. I also know (sadly, very well) how Lisi feels. I was a KDE 3.5 user for almost all my linux life (7 years)... until KDE 4.0 came into scene. By that time, I had to make a choice: giving KDE 4.0 an opportunity or looking for other DE. I also was aware that KDE devels were not going to spend any resource of their time to continue improving the old branch (just grave bugzilla reports were to be fixed) and working with KDE 4.0 was a real pain so I finally switched to GNOME. I don't regret that decision and moreover, I won't return to KDE in a near future. But people who likes KDE has to understand that KDE 4.5 has nothing in common with KDE 4.0. If they like KDE, they should try it. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.10.13.09.24...@gmail.com
Re: KDE Question
Dne, 13. 10. 2010 10:51:24 je godo napisal(a): Are you satisfied with Gnome? Very much so. It does an excellent job at getting out of my way, which is what I expect from a DE 99% of the time. Is he lighter (CPU, RAM) than KDE4? Not noticeably, no. But I don't have to spend a minute of my time debugging it. And I literally can't remember when was it that it last crashed/froze on me. Asking because I think switch to something and still didn’t decide. Fluxbox is favorite for now. I adore lightweight, fast environments too. Problem is, I also love all those little automatisms to be in place and readily available, like powerful right-click menus, automounting volumes, power-management, network connection management, bluetooth management, and my set of faithful yet unobtrusive panel applets showing me CPU temperature, hard disk temperature, network traffic, local weather, time of day and so on... -- Regards, Klistvud Certifiable Loonix User #481801 http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1286963208.1391...@compax
Re: KDE Question
On Tuesday 12 October 2010 23:39:06 Camaleón wrote: On Tue, 12 Oct 2010 23:20:39 +0100, Lisi wrote: On Tuesday 12 October 2010 22:47:45 Camaleón wrote: In fact, KDE 4.5 can be (almost 100%) configured to play the same KDE 3.5 did. It takes some time to get the same lookfeel, but you can leave a quite similar desktop. quite similar, almost 100%, configured to _play_ the same. Ouch. Spend long enough and you will get something that is almost, but not quite, totally unlike tea. But it still won't _play_ right. I want to *use* my DE not look at it. I want its looks to be in no way a distraction. Maybe restful on the eyes. That's all I want the looks to do. But the functionality - now that I mind about, some bits more than others. (after some rant... :-P) Yes, yes... I know all that (I've been there). But if you still love KDE, just give KDE 4.5 a chance. Spend 15 minutes in setting up the way you liked (meaning: remove all the fancy effects, use plain desktop, disable akonadi, strigi and that stuff, forget activities, return to the standard icons on the desktop...) and you're done. You'll get a plain and simple desktop, the same KDE 3.5 used to be :-) I have continued to use Lenny largely because I do not want to lose KDE 3.x.x any sooner than I have to. And because I always hoped that someone more knowledgable and adept than I would miss/want KDE 3.5.x as much as I did, and carry it forward. And someone did and has. \o/ Yep, but supporting KDE 3.5 cannot last forever. You have to face that and you'll have to decide what way to choose, just be prepared ;-( I have already tried Trinity Kubuntu, with some success, but it was not really stable at the time. So I am going to install Trinity KDE on a machine other than my workhorse desktop, but that I am using quite a lot at the moment. I am really looking forward to it. Squeeze, here I come! Good luck! :-) But just in case, give it a chance to KDE 4.5 (play with it in a virtual machine and start it from time to time) and also, test another desktops. Experience tells me that sticking to just one thing it can be very dangerous... and very frustrating. Why? KDE 4 has nothing in common with KDE 3 other than the name. I have given KDE 4 a chance. I don't like it. I don't understand why there is this moral crusade to treat KDE 3 lovers as some kind of pig-headed throwback. _Of course_ KDE 3.5.10 is not going to last forever - in fact Trinity KDE has already reached 3.5.12. But it could evolve organically. And I have been trying other DEs. I have just lived for 10 days with xfce. I did not find it enjoyable. Of course one day KDE 3 will die. So will I. So will GNOME. So will the planet. I have never said that I will not change - merely that I do not want to do so until I have to. But why is using it dangerous? There is a good chance that it will outlive me. ;-) And if it doesn't, I'll use something else. :-) But that something else is unlikely to be KDE 4. Sorry, Camaleón. I realise that what you are saying is fairly mild. But I have been subject to an onslaught over this by Dotan, who is a KDE 4 zealot, so I am a bit touchy about attempts to cajole, persuade, bully or compel, me into KDE 4. KDE 4 seems to be all about look and glitz and nothing about function. Function is important to me. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201010131059.47615.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: KDE Question
Dne, 13. 10. 2010 12:02:02 je Paul Cartwright napisal(a): have you tried xfce ?? I like it as much as gnome.. and I also switched from KDE... xfce is also powerful, but a little lighter weight. Thanx for the suggestion. I'll give it a try on a spare box, or a virtual machine when I find the time. -- Regards, Klistvud Certifiable Loonix User #481801 http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1286964469.1391...@compax
Re: KDE Question
Lisi schreef: On Tuesday 12 October 2010 22:47:45 Camaleón wrote: In fact, KDE 4.5 can be (almost 100%) configured to play the same KDE 3.5 did. It takes some time to get the same lookfeel, but you can leave a quite similar desktop. quite similar, almost 100%, configured to _play_ the same. Ouch. Spend long enough and you will get something that is almost, but not quite, totally unlike tea. But it still won't _play_ right. I want to *use* my DE not look at it. I want its looks to be in no way a distraction. Maybe restful on the eyes. That's all I want the looks to do. But the functionality - now that I mind about, some bits more than others. I have continued to use Lenny largely because I do not want to lose KDE 3.x.x any sooner than I have to. And because I always hoped that someone more knowledgable and adept than I would miss/want KDE 3.5.x as much as I did, and carry it forward. And someone did and has. \o/ I have already tried Trinity Kubuntu, with some success, but it was not really stable at the time. So I am going to install Trinity KDE on a machine other than my workhorse desktop, but that I am using quite a lot at the moment. I am really looking forward to it. Squeeze, here I come! Lisi hi lisi, you really are someone! your irony gave me a good laugh. btw i appreciate xfce4 and kde3.x above all else now. regards, steef -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cb5871b.7040...@home.nl
Re: lazarus fpc - absent
On 10/10/2010 16:21, Lisi wrote: On Sunday 10 October 2010 12:58:02 Javier Barroso wrote: On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 1:48 PM, Johanjohans...@telkomsa.net wrote: You should be able to use any of the listed mirrors by adding a line to your /etc/apt/sources.list like this: deb http:///ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ sid main Replacing /ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ with the mirror in question. Better replace sid with sequeeze in that instructions, and run aptitude update; aptitude -s install lazarus , to see which packages will be picked from squeeze You will need a mixed debian environment (see pinning [1]) or to do a backport (both are advanced topics) Seems like lazarus was removed from lenny for legal reasons [2] Regards, [1] http://wiki.debian.org/AptPreferences?action=showredirect=Pinning [2] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=506977 Johan seems to want a lot of more up-to-date stuff. Would he not be better to use Squeeze in the first place? After all, it is over two tears since Lenny was frozen. Then he wouldn'y have to dive into more complex stuff immediately. He does not appear to be sufficiently at home yet to grasp the difference between Lenny and Sid - let alone to try and run those two together! Lisi Lisi, Thanks, I have downloaded Debian-weekly-test dvd and all is there. Most on the dvd and some from repo. I know I am running unstable test but will update regularly. This mail is from Test. Johan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cb58c2d.1080...@telkomsa.net
Re: Nouveau
Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: As Sven points out, there is no current support for 3D in Nuvó driver (there is, but is very experimental and probably highly unstable¹). Should you want to play with 3D programs/applications, just install nvidia driver. ¹ http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/GalliumHowto Nouveau/Gallium is worth a try at least. A lot of work is being done on these drivers and depending on the chip in his card, they could turn out to be a pleasant surprise. I am currently running them on an old FX5200 card and I can play bzflag at 1680x1050 with no problem, but e.g. Torcs is a little too much. However, more work is being done on the drivers for the newer cards than the driver for my old card, so you if you have one of those, you could be in luck even with more demanding games. Morten -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/slrnibb3np.6be@gatsby.mbjnet.dk
Re: KDE Question
On Tue, 2010-10-12 at 19:11 -0700, Kelly Clowers wrote: On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 15:39, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: use plain desktop, disable akonadi, strigi and that stuff, forget activities, return to the standard icons on the desktop.. Out of all the awesome things in KDE4 why would disable some of the very best? Cheers, Kelly Clowers 100% CPU utilization, constant disk access - John -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1286969862.21361.24.ca...@denise.theartistscloset.com
Re: KDE Question
On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 10:59:47 +0100, Lisi wrote: On Tuesday 12 October 2010 23:39:06 Camaleón wrote: (...) But just in case, give it a chance to KDE 4.5 (play with it in a virtual machine and start it from time to time) and also, test another desktops. Experience tells me that sticking to just one thing it can be very dangerous... and very frustrating. Why? KDE 4 has nothing in common with KDE 3 other than the name. That is because you are looking at KDE 4.5 with different eyes. It's not KDE 4, it's you!. Just let it be the same way KDE 3.5 looked and the magic will be done. I have given KDE 4 a chance. I don't like it. I don't understand why there is this moral crusade to treat KDE 3 lovers as some kind of pig-headed throwback. All that is in your mind. Nobody pretends nothing and noone is forcing you to follow one or another path. I am saying what I am seeing and to be fair, you can like KDE 4 or not but what you cannot say (not at this point of development) is that KDE4 cannot look like KDE 3.5. I've managed to did it so and it can be done. _Of course_ KDE 3.5.10 is not going to last forever - in fact Trinity KDE has already reached 3.5.12. But it could evolve organically. And I have been trying other DEs. I have just lived for 10 days with xfce. I did not find it enjoyable. It is very difficult to add new features for a desktop that its own base is over 10 years... and more difficult when there are not many people behind the scenes, programming such new additions. As said, nobody prevents you of using a static KDE 3.5 (hey, there are people out there running windows98 and they are so happy :-P) it's just that saying you cannot get the same behaviour with KDE 4.5 is at least, unfair. Of course one day KDE 3 will die. So will I. So will GNOME. So will the planet. I have never said that I will not change - merely that I do not want to do so until I have to. Open Souce projects move very fast: they can die and born very quickly. KDE is a big project that needs a big workforce to succeed. But why is using it dangerous? There is a good chance that it will outlive me. ;-) And if it doesn't, I'll use something else. :-) But that something else is unlikely to be KDE 4. What is dangerous is using/sticking to just one option (named KDE 3.5 or KDE 4.5, or GNOME 2.22). Because you, me... all depend of what developers want to do with them (keep it, throw it) so I always try to keep my mind open to new environments as I don't know what the future deserves. Sorry, Camaleón. I realise that what you are saying is fairly mild. But I have been subject to an onslaught over this by Dotan, who is a KDE 4 zealot, so I am a bit touchy about attempts to cajole, persuade, bully or compel, me into KDE 4. KDE 4 seems to be all about look and glitz and nothing about function. Function is important to me. I don't think Dotan is that type of guy. I know him (well, I know his posts) from openSUSE mailing list and thanks to him (besides other users) and his bugzilla reports, KDE 4 is now completely usable :-) Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.10.13.11.39...@gmail.com
Re: WiFi: nm-applet, nm-editor, replace NetworkManager
On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 22:48 +0100, Wolodja Wentland wrote: It works perfectly with eduroam and Let me elaborate on the eduroam configuration. For eduroam you choose PEAP with TKIP/MSCHAPV2 Identity: u...@host.tld Password: YourPassword You should also obtain the GTE Cybertrust Global Root certificate and save it to (for example) /etc/wpa_supplicant/cert/gte_cybertrust_root.crt You might also want to refer to your university's documentation, which might provide further details. Good luck -- .''`. Wolodja Wentlandwolodja.wentl...@ed.ac.uk : :' : `. `'` 4096R/CAF14EFC `- 081C B7CD FF04 2BA9 94EA 36B2 8B7F 7D30 CAF1 4EFC signature.asc Description: Digital signature The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336.
Re: WiFi: nm-applet, nm-editor, replace NetworkManager
On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 5:55 AM, Wolodja Wentland wolodja.wentl...@ed.ac.uk wrote: On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 22:48 +0100, Wolodja Wentland wrote: It works perfectly with eduroam and Let me elaborate on the eduroam configuration. For eduroam you choose PEAP with TKIP/MSCHAPV2 Identity: u...@host.tld Password: YourPassword You should also obtain the GTE Cybertrust Global Root certificate and save it to (for example) /etc/wpa_supplicant/cert/gte_cybertrust_root.crt You might also want to refer to your university's documentation, which might provide further details. Good luck -- I only used wicd for a short time, but my understanding was that it supported anything that wpa_supplicant does. Thing is, you have to write your own profile/template, which requires an understanding of how to do it in wpa_supplicant, and then how to modify it as a wicd template. At that point I gave up and said why learn it twice? The wicd forums can probably give you a more definitive answer. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktin8ax_2kbmdadka3ysek-w5pq8v_+8i7f1tv...@mail.gmail.com
Re: KDE Question
For those wanting to lighten up the gnome desktop, alt+f2, gconf-editor, ctrl+f the following: low_resource (enable) workarounds (disable) animation (disable all that come up) The difference between xfce and gnome, for me is negligible, and losing a decent screensaver, gdm and powermanager not worth it. Once you install gnome-screensaver, you may as well just install gnome as it pulls in about 60% of the core components anyway. For those who want a light-de, LXDE is taking over from XFCE. On the other hand, when Jack Bauer visited Tony at his home to ask for help, his computer was running XFCE. So it's got some cool factor. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktinxktg0bs__qh30pwz338l_z2z0fmgef0xhf...@mail.gmail.com
Re: WiFi: nm-applet, nm-editor, replace NetworkManager
On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 07:07 -0500, Arthur Machlas wrote: Thing is, you have to write your own profile/template, which requires an understanding of how to do it in wpa_supplicant, and then how to modify it as a wicd template. This might be true for schemes that are not yet supported in wicd, but the aforementioned WPA2/TKIP with MSCHAPV2 is already offered as a choice in wicd. At that point I gave up and said why learn it twice? The wicd forums can probably give you a more definitive answer. You might want to try wicd again. :) -- .''`. Wolodja Wentlandwolodja.wentl...@ed.ac.uk : :' : `. `'` 4096R/CAF14EFC `- 081C B7CD FF04 2BA9 94EA 36B2 8B7F 7D30 CAF1 4EFC signature.asc Description: Digital signature The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336.
Re: Partitioning a drive with Windows 7 already installed
Γιώργος Πάλλας schreef: On 13/10/2010 01:24 πμ, Ogya Chief wrote: If you care about Windows 7 at all (e.g., for playing games) you should back up the Win 7 installation completely before starting. How you go about it depends on your new machine. If it came with recovery options, you should investigate them. With the Ultimate edition, Win 7 comes with a good backup program, you can use that. Otherwise, you can look to the various alternatives for backing up. But I urge you to use something. Most of the programs, free and non-free, work properly to shrink a partition, but it is easy to commit a user error and wipe things out completely. If it were me, I would shrink (resize) the partition first, before running the Debian installer. That is, take it in reversible stages. This is a matter of taste. It isn't strictly necessary. I have Win 7 home premium. I will find out what tools for partitioning/backup came with it and decide on my next course of action. For backing up the whole disk before starting with dangerous operations I suggest Clonezilla (the open-source equivalent of Ghost). It use it regularly and hasn't betrayed me. As for the rest procedures, I also suggest you resize the windows partition with gparted from a ubuntu live cd, and then run the debian installer. could dd_rescue be a suggestion? steef -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cb592e0.1010...@home.nl
Re: KDE Question
On Wed October 13 2010, Arthur Machlas wrote: For those wanting to lighten up the gnome desktop, alt+f2, gconf-editor, ctrl+f the following: low_resource (enable) workarounds (disable) animation (disable all that come up) when I found those, the value on all said schema . it didn't find any low_resource, and it found 2 workarounds: /schema/apps/metacity/general/disable_workarounds /apps/metacity/general/disable_workarounds -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux user # 367800 Registered Ubuntu User #12459 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201010130910.05299.deb...@pcartwright.com
Re: Partitioning a drive with Windows 7 already installed
On 13/10/2010 02:07 μμ, steef wrote: Γιώργος Πάλλας schreef: On 13/10/2010 01:24 πμ, Ogya Chief wrote: If you care about Windows 7 at all (e.g., for playing games) you should back up the Win 7 installation completely before starting. How you go about it depends on your new machine. If it came with recovery options, you should investigate them. With the Ultimate edition, Win 7 comes with a good backup program, you can use that. Otherwise, you can look to the various alternatives for backing up. But I urge you to use something. Most of the programs, free and non-free, work properly to shrink a partition, but it is easy to commit a user error and wipe things out completely. If it were me, I would shrink (resize) the partition first, before running the Debian installer. That is, take it in reversible stages. This is a matter of taste. It isn't strictly necessary. I have Win 7 home premium. I will find out what tools for partitioning/backup came with it and decide on my next course of action. For backing up the whole disk before starting with dangerous operations I suggest Clonezilla (the open-source equivalent of Ghost). It use it regularly and hasn't betrayed me. As for the rest procedures, I also suggest you resize the windows partition with gparted from a ubuntu live cd, and then run the debian installer. could dd_rescue be a suggestion? steef dd_rescue for backup? Isn't it a bit low-level for the simple use of backing up a disk? Clonezilla also does recognize the filesystems and takes up space only for used disk space... smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: KDE Question
On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 8:10 AM, Paul Cartwright deb...@pcartwright.com wrote: On Wed October 13 2010, Arthur Machlas wrote: For those wanting to lighten up the gnome desktop, alt+f2, gconf-editor, ctrl+f the following: low_resource (enable) workarounds (disable) animation (disable all that come up) when I found those, the value on all said schema . it didn't find any low_resource, and it found 2 workarounds: /schema/apps/metacity/general/disable_workarounds /apps/metacity/general/disable_workarounds Sorry, was going from memory. It's reduced_resources. And you never touch schema. Therefore, the /apps is the one you want. Oh and check 'include key name' when searching. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlkti=aup-_dx4kicxm5n-6qqqb3xv14um1fsdb6...@mail.gmail.com
RoundCube not working properly under Lighttpd in Squeeze
Hi all, I am using Postfix + Dovecot(IMAP) + Lighttpd + RoundCube to get a webmail service working. However, when I login from the browser (Firefox 3.0.19), I briefly the initial inbox view and then within 1-2 seconds I am automatically returned to the login screen. I tried changing the rcmail_config['debug_level'] entry, but, still don't get anything other than a PHP warning about deprecated usage. Has anybody been able to get RoundCube + Lighty to work successfully under Squeeze? Regards, Didar -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktinctgtk5_=h_yjehvbavv1ttn4hhw6duhrr1...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Partitioning a drive with Windows 7 already installed
Ogya Chief wrote: SNIPPED At this stage there is no data to backup. If there is any other thing I can backup, please let me know. Since most newer computers don't come with a Restore disc, I would suggest burning the Restore partition and any associated utility partition to a DVD. Usually it fits on one. That way if your hard drive goes belly up later you can slap a new one in and put the machine back to a factory state if you wish. I also recommend Clonezilla for taking snapshots of your working system. It's slow on NTFS, but will fly through most Linux friendly filesystems. -- Arrant Drivel - really, it's just trash... http://www.arrantdrivel.com/ Where the road takes me - a highwayman's perspective http://www.prestonboyington.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cb5ba77.7090...@gmail.com
Re: KDE Question
On Wed October 13 2010, Arthur Machlas wrote: low_resource (enable) workarounds (disable) animation (disable all that come up) when I found those, the value on all said schema . it didn't find any low_resource, and it found 2 workarounds: /schema/apps/metacity/general/disable_workarounds /apps/metacity/general/disable_workarounds Sorry, was going from memory. It's reduced_resources. And you never touch schema. Therefore, the /apps is the one you want. Oh and check 'include key name' when searching. thanks! reduced resources I did enable, workarounds was already unchecked. and you can't find ANY of them if you don't check include key name.. -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux user # 367800 Registered Ubuntu User #12459 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201010131029.00441.deb...@pcartwright.com
Re: KDE Question
On Wednesday 13 October 2010 12:39:59 Camaleón wrote: That is because you are looking at KDE 4.5 with different eyes. It's not KDE 4, it's you!. Just let it be the same way KDE 3.5 looked and the magic will be done. It is the functionality that I don't like. What it looks like is a side-issue. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201010131529.53782.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Installing avahi-daemon crashes kernel, corrupts filesystem
On 10/13/2010 05:16 AM, Jason Heeris wrote: Before I go off to bugzilla, I just want to check that I've actually got debugging information here, since to me it doesn't look that different. Do I need to boot with a special kernel arg? Looks like this bug was reported on the avahi upstream mailing list [1]. The person responding indicates a kernel problem, which makes sense when you actually get a kernel panic as a result. This was also indicated on this list. The 'reportbug' tool will include quite a bit of information for you in the report, so adding additional logs to the bug report may not even be needed. However, it appears that the log you included was the custom kernel you attempted to use as directed by the others on this list. Make sure you when you report the bug, you include relevant logs for the kernel packaged by Debian. Disabling support for ipv6 can actually be done via a kernel parameter, so recompiling to remove ipv6 support should not be needed. Use the kernel parameter ipv6.disable=1. Good luck! [1] http://www.mail-archive.com/av...@lists.freedesktop.org/msg01550.html Regards, -- Jordan Metzmeier -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cb5c3ce.9000...@gmail.com
configure problem
Hello, During the installation of one package, after configuration, it showed me like this $ ./configure Setting compiler to /usr/bin/gfortran I installed the gfortran on Debian already, are there some parts I am missing. What's the next step I should do? Sorry for the naive question. Thanks, lina
arpon need eth0 with dhcp,but pppoe cann't get connection if ifup eth0 with dhcp
Hello, I found arp attack under windows,so i installed arpon in Debian Squeeze,even if there is no ip confiction prompt as windows. When service arpon is started,it sayed: ERROR: arpon.c:685 @ eth0: no IPv4 address assigned.,then quit with failure. The problem is my pppoe cann't get connection when dhcp was used on eth0 (nslookup website will fail). So in my /etc/network/interface is: ### auto lo iface lo inet loopback auto myisp iface myisp inet ppp provider dsl-provider allow-hotplug eth0 ### and as a result,the ifconfig output is: ### eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:14:0b:36:0f:e5 inet6 addr: fe80::214:bff:fe36:fe5/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:327783 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:239219 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:363595254 (346.7 MiB) TX bytes:20418761 (19.4 MiB) Interrupt:23 Base address:0x4800 ppp0 Link encap:Point-to-Point Protocol inet addr:10.0.0.126 P-t-P:10.0.0.1 Mask:255.255.255.255 UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING NOARP MULTICAST MTU:1492 Metric:1 RX packets:249097 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:239183 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:3 RX bytes:351496310 (335.2 MiB) TX bytes:15152829 (14.4 MiB) ### if using arpon -i ppp0,then it shows: ERROR: (null) device's datalink is not supported! if i start eth0 using dhcp,with ifconfig output below,the arpon can get started rightly,but nslookup failed. ifconfig output: ### eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:14:0b:36:0f:e5 inet addr:192.168.1.213 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 inet6 addr: fe80::214:bff:fe36:fe5/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING PROMISC MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:331384 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:239548 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:364022940 (347.1 MiB) TX bytes:20471884 (19.5 MiB) Interrupt:23 Base address:0x4800 ppp0 Link encap:Point-to-Point Protocol inet addr:10.0.0.126 P-t-P:10.0.0.1 Mask:255.255.255.255 UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING NOARP MULTICAST MTU:1492 Metric:1 RX packets:53 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:48 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:3 RX bytes:8991 (8.7 KiB) TX bytes:6578 (6.4 KiB) ### What i concern is how can i use arpon with my pppoe connection as there is such a problem. Is there arp attack concern in linux?
Re: Installing avahi-daemon crashes kernel, corrupts filesystem
On 13 October 2010 22:35, Jordan Metzmeier titan8...@gmail.com wrote: The person responding indicates a kernel problem, which makes sense when you actually get a kernel panic as a result. This was also indicated on this list. I'm trying to figure out if there's a simpler way to trigger it, but haven't really figured that out. However, it appears that the log you included was the custom kernel you attempted to use as directed by the others on this list. Make sure you when you report the bug, you include relevant logs for the kernel packaged by Debian. I only used the custom kernel to get debugging information. The configuration is the same, but I can do both. Disabling support for ipv6 can actually be done via a kernel parameter, so recompiling to remove ipv6 support should not be needed. Use the kernel parameter ipv6.disable=1. Good point. It seemed that there was no module to blacklist after all. — Jason -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlkti�yowejlqv=gcboyhbw3pmdu5pbkpmxhfe...@mail.gmail.com
Re: KDE Question
On Wednesday 13 October 2010 12:39:59 Camaleón wrote: I don't think Dotan is that type of guy. I know him (well, I know his posts) from openSUSE mailing list and thanks to him (besides other users) and his bugzilla reports, KDE 4 is now completely usable :-) Which he was obsessive about. And he may not bully people on the subject on list - but he ceratinly did me off-list. He just won't allow anyone to dislike KDE4. I have not said taht I want KDE 3 to stand still. As I have pointed out, it isn't doing. And yes, it may die because it has a small support base - but KDE 3.5.10 died because a large support base decided that it would rather start again and build a new DE. I can and do use other DEs and even WMs. But I like KDE 3 best and see no reason to stop using it while is is available and meets my needs. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201010131543.19703.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Installing avahi-daemon crashes kernel, corrupts filesystem
Jason Heeris jason.hee...@gmail.com writes: To save me more trouble, can anyone tell me what the key is to building a kernel exactly the same as what's in linux-image-2.6.32-5-486? I'm on a PC with amd64 arch, so I created a i386 chroot: I have personally used http://wiki.debian.org/HowToRebuildAnOfficialDebianKernelPackage many times. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/844ocq9mab@sauna.l.org
