Re: being up to date (Was: insserv + apache2 + bind9 = pain)
On Wed January 5 2011 20:31:44 Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote: > > mgb-deb...@yosemite.net : > >Undoing the damage done by insserv is possible but non-trivial. > > So... let's just "work for some years" and it will be better. Non-trivial as in a few days of work (mostly testing), not years. --Mike Bird -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201101052158.38113.mgb-deb...@yosemite.net
Re: repos for squeeze as a base install.
On Wednesday 05 January 2011 10:57:35 am Sthu Deus wrote: > No. There is backports for squeeze too - to mix up not w/ the backborts > of now stable branch. Are there any packages uploaded to it yet ? -- Peace, Greg -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201101051956.59018.gomadtr...@gci.net
Re: lighttpd - fastcgi-php - php5-cgi
It is working well! :) I was trying to make apache2 fcgid/fascgi with suexec or suphp working for two days.. :| With lighttpd + fastcgi_php + php5-cgi it is much more easy and fast! thanx! On 2011.01.05. 21:33, Bob Proulx wrote: Informatik.hu wrote: I would like use lighttpd with fastcgi-php. Fastcgi-php connects to php5-cgi on 127.0.0.1:521. I can start "php5-cgi -b 127.0.0.1:521" with root, but i would like to run in with another user, like www-data. Ports below 1024 are available only to the root user. In order to use them with a non-root user you would need to pick a port above 1024. Exactly i want to run multiple php5-cgi with multiple user (different ports per virtual hosts). When i try to start php5-cgi with a normal user, i got the "Cannot bind/listen socket - [13] Permission denied. Couldn't create FastCGI listen socket on port 127.0.0.1:522" Correct. To use port 521 or 522 it needs to be opened by the root user. This is a security restriction. How can i star php5-cgi with a normal, or reduced user? The best solution would be to pick a port above 1024. Bbo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d254ab7.2080...@informatik.hu
Re: being up to date (Was: insserv + apache2 + bind9 = pain)
> mgb-deb...@yosemite.net : >Undoing the damage done by insserv is possible but non-trivial. So... let's just "work for some years" and it will be better. -- RMA. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110106073144.1c0af...@packard.rktmb.org
Re: A command line tool to serch the contents of an uninstalled deb
Regid Ichira wrote: > Is there a command line tool that can search the contents of a deb that > is not installed and was not downloaded? If so, how does it do that? > Does it basically download Contents.gz and search in it? $ apt-cache show apt-file Description: search for files within Debian packages (command-line interface) apt-file is a command line tool for searching files contained in packages for the APT packaging system. You can search in which package a file is included or list the contents of a package without installing or fetching it. Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
A command line tool to serch the contents of an uninstalled deb
Is there a command line tool that can search the contents of a deb that is not installed and was not downloaded? If so, how does it do that? Does it basically download Contents.gz and search in it? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/col119-w65f8a1a2da425510bc82a1f5...@phx.gbl
Re: recursively find duplicate filenames
>> On Wed, 5 Jan 2011 03:15:01 -0800 (PST), >> S Mathias said: S> find duplicate filenames in a folder recursively? how? It's a (pretty ugly) one-liner if you have something to reverse strings in a file. Put this in (say) /usr/local/bin/rev: #!/usr/bin/perl -n chomp; print +(scalar reverse), "\n"; exit(0); And then: you% cd /some/place you% find . -print | rev | cut -f1 -d/ | rev | sort | uniq -c | \ expand | grep -v ' 1 ' Or you could replace the uniq-expand-grep with some awk weirdness if you're into that. -- Karl Vogel I don't speak for the USAF or my company If men ruled the world #18: It would be perfectly legal to steal a sports car, as long as you returned it the following day with a full tank of gas. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110106024045.89094b...@kev.msw.wpafb.af.mil
Re: sleeping the system vs hibernate or suspend
On Wed, 05 Jan 2011 12:08:27 -0600 Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > > Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > >> bri...@aracnet.com wrote: > >>> On Mon, 3 Jan 2011 08:44:22 -0600 > >>> Javier Vasquez wrote: > >>> > On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 1:18 PM, wrote: > > ... > > Someone posted (to this list) a simple command line for > > sleeping the system. > > > > ... > acpitool -S => suspend to disk (hibernate) => Puts machine > into S4. acpitool -s => suspend to ram (sleep) => > Puts machine into S3. > > man acpitool > > >>> > >>> it is, appropriately, in the acpitool package. > >>> > >>> > >> > >> But do either of the commands work? > >> > > > > > > I'll be darned... 'acpitool -s' *works from a VT* (not from X). > > Except I get this from alsa when KUSC is playing with mplayer: > > works from X for me. I was *shocked* when I tried it the first time and it worked. As you noted, it's very fast, which is why I don't think that there is any swapping or state-saving going on. I think it just puts things into a low power state. My guess is that the RAM is running normally, the CPU is halted, etc... Brian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110105183052.4f16d...@bamboo.deldotd.com
How to change the font size and type in kchmviewer?
Hi all, I have Debian Squeeze(amd64) installed on my PC. I'm using KDE and I found that the kchmviewer can't change its font size and type to read the chm file. So, how to change the font size and type in kchmviewer? Thank you and wish you a happy new year :) -- Twitter: @ghosTM55 Facebook.com/ghosThomas Mechanism, not policy -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktinp63hm0ufsd=asygzs01ioke77-aztgnmgq...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Can Debian Backup ntfs File System?
On Wed, Jan 05, 2011 at 06:50:38PM +0100, Klistvud wrote: .snip > The cars should be (and, > after decades of development, finally are) projected such that > without all the fluids in place they simply won't start, while > notifying the driver with an appropriate flashing indicator on the > dashboard. Not true. Low coolant, trans fluid, differential lube, etc give no warning. .snip.. > but not > nearly as much as I despise anything that has to do with inner > combustion engines ... That's obvious. -- Bob Holtzman Key ID: 8D549279 "If you think you're getting free lunch, check the price of the beer" signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Sound recording in Debian Lenny
On Wed, Jan 05, 2011 at 03:44:20PM +, Lisi wrote: > I am after something from never-never land, but I live in hopes. > > I need a sound recorder, and would prefer that it be in Debian Lenny, but a > dual-boot would be possible. It must fulfil the following criteria: > > 1) Be managed by someone who knows a little bit about Linux, less about > Debian > and absolutely zilch about sound recording and balancing etc. > > 2) Ideally, usable by someone who knows even less about computers and sound > recording, but can use this package without too active a helping hand. > When I really need to dumb things down for users, I often make my own bash script to do it. Maybe something like this would work for you: #!/bin/bash echo "About to start recording. Hit Ctrl-C to stop." arecord myfile.wav echo "Recording saved as myfile.wav -- be sure to rename it to something meaningful." You can create a launcher/shortcut to run it in a terminal, or you can pretty it up with zenity, xdialog, or KDE's equivalent. -Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110106003705.gc4...@aurora.owens.net
Re: Can Debian Backup ntfs File System?
On Wed, Jan 05, 2011 at 06:50:38PM +0100, Klistvud wrote: > Dne, 05. 01. 2011 15:28:47 je Lisi napisal(a): >> On Wednesday 05 January 2011 12:03:59 Camaleón wrote: >> > At least you should have learned one lesson: _never trust_ what your >> > users say and tell them to _prove_ their wording with facts (that >> is, by >> > checking with her that the data was properly backed up and can be >> > restored from the aforementioned "unexistent" copy) >;-) >> >> I did look at the pen drive to make sure that the copies were there >> and >> retrievable. But I didn't know enough about her data to know that the >> most >> recent 'photos were missing. It is not certain that they could have >> been >> rescued at that point even if I had known! >> >> If it weren't for the fact that she is going around telling very >> hurtful >> untruths about me, I would be the gainer. She was hard work, >> demanding and >> not very profitable! >> >> But sometimes they _know_ that they haven't got copies, but are >> unwilling to >> have them. It means buying something to put them on. >> >> Lisi > > Seems I'm one of the few who sincerely think that not all users should, > or even could, be required to know the inner workings of each and every > technology they use. In real life, people are forced (by their job or > whatever) to use many modern technologies, and in our technology-based > development model, this trend is bound to increase. Should every driver > necessarily know ALL the fluid circuits of a vehicle, and their > check/refill intervals? I honestly don't -- do you? Of course I know the But you carry a spare tire, right? And if you have an unreliable car, maybe you should have a bicycle on-hand in case you really need to get to work one day and your car won't start. I equate that to having a backup of your data. The problem I've seen several times, though, is when an application hides your data away somewhere. Itunes, for instance. My brother-in-law has no idea where is music is, other than "it's in Itunes". That makes backing it up pretty difficult for the novice. -Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110106002206.gb4...@aurora.owens.net
Re: being up to date (Was: insserv + apache2 + bind9 = pain)
On Wed January 5 2011 15:29:53 Arthur Machlas wrote: > You keep asserting that 'years of DD work have been thrown away'. You > do realise the ordering is still there, right? It's now in the LSB > headers rather than the scripts numbering scheme. That is not correct. The LSB header ordering is weaker and causes many server failures, although it may be adequate for simple laptop configurations. The stable ordering is in fact in the postinst scripts. Undoing the damage done by insserv is possible but non-trivial. --Mike Bird -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201101051616.34383.mgb-deb...@yosemite.net
Re: Sound recording in Debian Lenny
* Petrus Validus [110105 22:51]:
>
> > The Lexicon Alpha and Omega use USB 1.0 and thus work with Linux Etch,
> > Lenny, and Squeeze; a two- or three-line configuration file may be
> > needed to make the Lexicon the default sound device. With Ubuntu
> > 10.10, both are fully plug-and-play.
>
> This is exciting to hear that such interfaces have "out of the box"
> compatibility. What about other units like the MBox2 and various
> M-Audio interfaces - do they have the same level of Linux compatibility
> as the Lexicon units?
>
> Last I heard, which was about 1-1.5 years ago, the DigiDesign MBox2 was
> a no-go and M-Audio external interfaces were hit or miss.
I found one forum post which said that the Alpha "just worked" in
Linux. I needed the capabilities of the Omega, so I ordered one. It
did not work "out of the box", but a few hours with Google turned up
the solution. All I needed to do with create in my home directory a
configuration file ".asoundrc":
$ cat .asoundrc
pcm.!default {
type hw
card Omega
}
ctl.!default {
type hw
card Omega
}
Subsequently, I obtained an Alpha, and found that it, too, worked.
I considered other USB boxen, but to me, the features and
specifications of the Lexicon appeared to be the best for my needs.
These are nice units.
I have running here on various machines Etch, Lenny, Squeeze, and
Ubuntu 10.10; some handle the Lexicon cards more automatically than do
others, but nothing more complex than the above configuration file is
needed.
Of course, the nice thing is that a USB sound card (really a sound
"box") can unplugged and used with any machine.
By the way, today's electronically-balanced outputs can drive either
balanced (that is, professional/broadcast) or unbalanced (that is,
consumer) inputs, automatically. Here, "balanced" means twisted pair
with shield, terminating in either XLR or 1/4-inch TRS phone plug.
And "unbalanced" means coax (like guitar cable). terminated in either
1/4-inch TS phone plug or RCA plug.
RLH
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Re: being up to date (Was: insserv + apache2 + bind9 = pain)
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Mike Bird wrote: > On Wed January 5 2011 13:37:59 Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote: >> > mgb-deb...@yosemite.net : >> > The issue is that insserv throws away >> > years of work by Debian Developers, >> >> That is not always bad. >> Computers have improved during the last years, why not their OSes? >> >> compiz, upstart, lxc,... are "modern" tools for modern use :-) > > Change can be good or bad. > > Hardware and software improvements are generally beneficial. > > Throwing away years of DD work and thereby causing innumerable > previously rock-solid Debian servers to fail to boot is not. You keep asserting that 'years of DD work have been thrown away'. You do realise the ordering is still there, right? It's now in the LSB headers rather than the scripts numbering scheme. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlkti=qovrujlaffnrkvwwt6ywpbt8ppmgr0vtdr...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Sound recording in Debian Lenny
> The Lexicon Alpha and Omega use USB 1.0 and thus work with Linux Etch, > Lenny, and Squeeze; a two- or three-line configuration file may be > needed to make the Lexicon the default sound device. With Ubuntu > 10.10, both are fully plug-and-play. This is exciting to hear that such interfaces have "out of the box" compatibility. What about other units like the MBox2 and various M-Audio interfaces - do they have the same level of Linux compatibility as the Lexicon units? Last I heard, which was about 1-1.5 years ago, the DigiDesign MBox2 was a no-go and M-Audio external interfaces were hit or miss. Thanks. -- Petrus Validus petrus.vali...@gmail.com If there isn't a way, I'll make one. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1294267912.10689.47.ca...@axon.8eews
SOLVED: permissions all zero when using 'cp'
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thanks to all, who helped it definitely was a rootkit. came in by this exim bug: - - http://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=navclient&gfns=1&q=exim4+root - - http://www.exim.org/lurker/message/20101210.164935.385e04d0.en.html - - http://www.exim.org/lurker/message/20101207.215955.bb32d4f2.en.html - - http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Possible-root-vulnerability-in-Exim-internet-mailer-Update-1150631.html - - http://blog.steve.org.uk/the_remote_root_hole_in_exim4_is_painful.html - - http://www.exploit-db.com/exploits/15725/ - - http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/exim/dev/89477 reinstalled an had a painful night seting up all services again Am 01.01.2011 21:09, schrieb Chris Davies: > Martin Lorenz wrote: >> i recently noticed some errors at my mail-server and so I tried to drill >> it down with my limited abilities. > >> what I found is really strange: >> when copying a file (no matter which) the copy gets zero permissions. > > Silly question time, because I've encountered this kind of problem myself, > once before... > > Is your filesystem remotely mounted from another server? > Chris > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJNJDDRAAoJECZ8myNlGwU1B/kH/1Rwlpl7GEzo5X7yzBjgKkcp NNezyv1X9+ncsqWOxrXstHH26ta9Ajht4KUm+MtmFMY90b0d7NpPMK7d0sEfx16M VxmdUnR7e8qH1R0aBOqcSlXM3GwAdCDL+LbL6FQ3nAqyX84ln4VFr2hQwej25eTQ J+dEvLKiKY3YRM84VN+uuqIy0RQcXSBFm7FWpj1/F2AOa0fzaT9vF4N72imGbJOA y6fMtWV1hnUjGWVRTNUKTvEdrJhO82GSHgCuJ0uYBnSUCvSBVLfsjmeQ/vD62v+Y uc4qsRoI12Q0o4ro0y7147ckf7JsfSC5hi3qee5ZxAx+K0ONBD09gQUKi0WWcBc= =S+XN -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d2430db.4000...@lorenz.priv.at
Re: Sound recording in Debian Lenny
* Lisi [110105 21:42]: > I am after something from never-never land, but I live in hopes. > > I need a sound recorder, and would prefer that it be in Debian Lenny, but a > dual-boot would be possible. It must fulfil the following criteria: > > 1) Be managed by someone who knows a little bit about Linux, less about > Debian > and absolutely zilch about sound recording and balancing etc. > > 2) Ideally, usable by someone who knows even less about computers and sound > recording, but can use this package without too active a helping hand. > > Last time my husband needed to record a book, I Installed Jaunty on a > computer > that I had to dedicate to it, used gnome-sound-recorder and held his hand > constantly. Do it the right way (which also is the easy way): => Mail-order a Lexicon (brand) Alpha (model) USB interface (about $75); this is a stereo interface, but it handles only one microphone-level input, and it does not provide phantom power (which is needed for condenser microphones). => Plug the USB cord into the computer. => Plug a microphone (balanced cable with 3-pin XLR plug; this is the standard for entertainment, broadcast, and recording industry) into the Alpha. => Adjust the microphone level with the "MIC" knob on the front panel of the Alpha. Simply adjust the level until the PEAK LEDs flash only occasionally. => Use "arecord". => After recording, use "aplay", which sends the sound out the headphone jack and the LINE OUT jacks of the Alpha. (In addition, the Alpha also has RCA jacks for computer speakers.) If you do not have a microphone with a 3-pin XLR connector, a decent dynamic microphone can be had for as little as $20 from the supplier from which you order the Alpha. Consider something such as the Shure PG48XLR microphone, which comes with a XLR cable for about $40, or a more expensive condenser lavalier microphone which clips onto your lapel, tie, or shirt. Check with a broadcast supplier such as www.bswusa.com or www.fullcompass.com, and tell the salesman what you are trying to do. This approach gives you uncompromised audio quality -- clean, full-fidelity, hum-free, and is better than using a PCI sound card or a sound card integrated into the motherboard. And the balanced microphone cable (which is the type of cable used with 3-pin XLR plugs) can be hundreds of feet long without fear of noise or hum, so you can change the recording location without having to move the computer. If you need phantom power (for a condenser microphone) or two microphone inputs, you need the larger Lexicon Omega (about $175). The Lexicon Alpha and Omega use USB 1.0 and thus work with Linux Etch, Lenny, and Squeeze; a two- or three-line configuration file may be needed to make the Lexicon the default sound device. With Ubuntu 10.10, both are fully plug-and-play. RLH -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110105222553.ga3...@rlharris.org
Re: squeeze audio cd and automount
On 5 January 2011 21:21, Camaleón wrote: > On Wed, 05 Jan 2011 19:24:01 +0100, Filipe Freire wrote: > > > On 3 January 2011 19:07, Camaleón wrote: > > > >> > besides this audio cd are not detected ay least by sound-juicer and > >> > totem. tried all audio devices. > >> > >> I'm also facing this problem: > >> > >> sound-juicer: doesn't find any CD drives, even when told which to use > >> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=577088 > >> > >> In my case, hal daemon is running so I tried to restarting the service > >> but not avail. Also, data CDs are mounted just fine. > >> > >> At least in lenny, although CD-Audio is not mounted as a normal data CD > >> Sound Juicer can play it fine. In Squeezy, the CD-Audio is not even > >> detected, but maybe you can try to access the media using another > >> program as the bug reporter suggests :-? > >> > >> As per the USB flash drive, I dunno. What do you get when you connect a > >> USB flash/disk drive and run "dmesg|tail -50"? > > > Hi, > > > > I looked at the bug report and tried (my drive is ATAPI) > > > > sound-juicer -d /dev/sr0 > > > > but it tells me I have no permission. I tried again with sudo and it > > works. When I press play, it plays but gives the message: > > > > Cannot connect to server socket err = No such file or directory Cannot > > connect to server socket > > jack server is not running or cannot be started > > Uh? That is different from my error :-? > > Why should sound-juicer need jack server at all? > it might need it to find the device. If so, that might also explain why no client is starting automatically when we insert a cd. > > > ls -l gives > > > > brw--- 1 root root 11, 0 Jan 2 22:00 /dev/sr0 > > Hum... mine looks different: > > t...@debian:~$ ls -l /dev/sr0 > brw-rw+ 1 root cdrom 11, 0 ene 5 20:57 /dev/sr0 > > > so I made rw for everyone but still cannot start it but now I get the > > HAL message mentioned in the bug report. > > Yep, and I still get the same message. > > > With totem I still can not get sound and get the message about not being > > able to start jack. > > Me neither, probably due to this other bug: > > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=574680 > > Try to run totem from command line "totem cdda://dev/sr0" and totem will > complain about it cannot handle cdda uri. > I tried "totem cdda://dev/sr0" and I get a bizarre message: The playback of this movie requires a Audio CD source plugin which is not installed. there are no obvious Audio CD plugins to add in. This smells bug to me. > > I checked my daemons and there is no jackd in /etc/init.d though jackd > > is installed (but labelled as virtual package). > > > > I googled a few other similar complains but no clear solution. > > > > THere are other jackd packages which might help. Any feedback on this? > > I dunno if the jack server message is related to the problem, BTW, I only > have this library installed: > > t...@debian:~$ dpkg -l | grep jack > ii libjack0 1:0.118 +svn3796-7 >JACK Audio Connection Kit (libraries) > > Greetings, > > -- > Camaleón > > > All the best, Filipe
Re: LVS+bond interfaces with vlan
Le mercredi 05 janvier, Shamrock Morbious écrivit : > Hi, > > I wonder is it possible to set up LVS on bonded vlan interface? > I tried but couldn't do anything what would be work. > Bonded interface with vlan works perfectly but when I try use ipvsadmin and > heartbeat it won't work. > Can anyone point me what's wrong? Or maybe it is not possible to set > configuration like this. I use LVS over bonding but with keepalived instead of heartbeat. That cluster Debian Etch. It is a high available load balancer for 2 other squid proxy servers. I don't remember having any problems... Perhaps is there a problem with IP aliases as done by heartbeat (bond0:0...) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: being up to date (Was: insserv + apache2 + bind9 = pain)
On Wed January 5 2011 13:37:59 Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote: > > mgb-deb...@yosemite.net : > > The issue is that insserv throws away > > years of work by Debian Developers, > > That is not always bad. > Computers have improved during the last years, why not their OSes? > > compiz, upstart, lxc,... are "modern" tools for modern use :-) Change can be good or bad. Hardware and software improvements are generally beneficial. Throwing away years of DD work and thereby causing innumerable previously rock-solid Debian servers to fail to boot is not. --Mike Bird -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201101051405.22458.mgb-deb...@yosemite.net
being up to date (Was: insserv + apache2 + bind9 = pain)
> mgb-deb...@yosemite.net : > The issue is that insserv throws away > years of work by Debian Developers, That is not always bad. Computers have improved during the last years, why not their OSes? compiz, upstart, lxc,... are "modern" tools for modern use :-) -- RMA. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110106003759.301e3...@packard.rktmb.org
Re: repos for squeeze as a base install.
On Mi, 05 ian 11, 12:31:51, David Jardine wrote: > > Use "testing" and you will move (seamlessly) to wheezy (testing) after > the release. Updates will after that will bring newer versions into > your system regularly. That depends. Immediately after the release it might pour with (more or less coordinated) updates. It's probably the most inconsistent period during the lifetime of a given release. For this reason I recommend moving from stable to testing only after things have settled down a bit. Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: OpenVPN server mode usage?
PETER EASTHOPE wrote: > Recently the DDNS server hasn't been updating and I've wondered > about other configurations. But an openvpn configuration shouldn't be depending upon dynamic dns. Have your dynamic IP client contact your server. If the server is static and known then there shouldn't be a problem if the client ip address is dynamic and changes and isn't known. On sites I maintain since the IP address is static and known I use the IP address directly so as to avoid any dependency upon dns. (Especially if dns is using the vpn then it would be a circular dependency to use the dns name. In which case I must use the IP address directly and avoid the circular dependency. But it is static so that is okay.) > One possibility appears to be for Dalton to run in server mode and > for Joule to be an OpenVPN client. That is the standard operating mode for my laptop. It connects as a client from wherever it happens to be in the world to my server with the static ip address. Then all traffic is routed over the vpn. (And so the Firesheep issue is not a problem for my laptop on some random wifi network. The issue is moved to my server network where I have more control. It is still a problem but just on a different but more safe network.) > So I'm thinking to remove option "remote joule.yi.org" I have never had a "remote" configuration on the server. That is for the client on the dynamic IP. I think you might be able to use almost the same configuration you currently have but just with some tweaks. > and add "mode server" in the configuration file on Dalton. > No such thing as "mode client". Is a client connection > profile necessary on Joule when there is only one server? > > Any comments or criticisms or suggestions before I blunder > further? There are two main configurations. One is a special case shared key. That has the advantage of being very simple to set up. http://openvpn.net/index.php/open-source/documentation/miscellaneous/78-static-key-mini-howto.html The disadvantage of the above is that it only works for two hosts. It doesn't scale to more. But you might start there as a simple way to get experience with the configuration. It will work fine with one server with a static IP and one client with an unknown dynamic IP. The second main way is to set up a certificate authority and enable multiple clients with your server. It is more complicated but if you are patient to work through the instructions it works quite well. http://openvpn.net/index.php/open-source/documentation/howto.html I started with the static key configuration between two hosts and eventually migrated to the CA configuration when I wanted to add a additional client host. Since then I have set up a couple of more vpns between sites and I start with the CA configuration. OpenVPN works well. However it isn't completely trivial to set up and I also have needs for something simpler. Therefore I also use autossh in addition to openvpn. It is a Debian package and you can install it directly. Autossh is quite useful. http://www.harding.motd.ca/autossh/ In short I use autossh to connect a host on a dynamic IP address to a server and to port forward connections back to the dynamic IP host. There are a few example scripts with the package. Unfortunately autossh does not package with an example /etc/init.d script to have it automatically start at boot time from the machine. That is the way I configure it. I would be happy to share those files if there is interest. Autossh is extremely simple and very reliable. It enables me to have a way to always connect to the dynamic IP host without needing dynamic dns for it. It enables a host behind a NAT firewall (such as my laptop connected to a private network) to be connected through a secure encrypted vpn-like connection to a server. My advice would be to try autossh and to port forward the ssh port to a local port on the server. That will give you an access path outside of openvpn. That way if you break your openvpn configuration during the transition you can use the ssh port forward for access. Then change your openvpn configuration. Having the two dual connection paths will prevent a mistake on one from blocking you for access because you can use the other path. Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Installation Report, failure to install correctly. How do I identify the Package under which I file my report?
On Mi, 05 ian 11, 01:28:04, Simon Hollenbach wrote: > Hi Keith, > I assume u clicked ur way through debian.org looking for a CD-Image to > download, so I think ur using Debian 'stable' codename Lenny. You have come > to us at the time of harvest :) The new Debian, now 'testing', codename > Squeeze is nearly finished, I recommend u download a testing installer and > try from there as you will probably want to update to the latest version in a > month or so if u dont. > > Here's the package you should file a bug against: > http://packages.debian.org/lenny/debian-installer From your link: "This package currently only contains some documentation for the Debian installer. We welcome suggestions about what else to put in it." You probably meant this: http://bugs.debian.org/installation-reports Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: firewall package for laptop wi-fi client
On Mi, 05 ian 11, 09:49:38, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: > On Ter, 04 Jan 2011, Andrei Popescu wrote: > >The wireless encrypts the traffic only between my laptop and my AP. > >Beyond my AP the wireless encryptions does not bring any additional > >security. > > That's true, but that's exactly the point: if the wireless network > is not encrypted it is trivial to capture the plain-text traffic > between user's computers and the AP: you just need another computer > with a wireless adapter nearby. > > Sniffing traffic past the AP is harder: generally the connection is > cabled, so you need physical access to the network, some technique > to route packages to your machine (not difficult to do, but also > means your action might be detected), etc. By "physical access to the network" you mean the internet, right? Because that's what's past my AP... AFAIK it's just a bit more difficult to intercept the traffic, that's all. As far as I'm concerned my home wireless is encrypted for two reasons: 1. I don't want to share my internet connections with my neighbors (for various reasons) 2. I want to be able to run unsecured services, if needed, behind the relative protection of the AP's firewall Whenever I'm connected to an open AP I just consider my laptop connected directly[1] to the internet, with all inherent risks. [1] even though most APs have at least NAT Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Got recursion not available from...
On Wed January 5 2011 12:09:56 vr wrote: > In all cases of experiencing this issue, it's Linux clients querying a > DNS server. The servers queried have been both Windows & Linux. The > client that gets "recursion not available" is always Linux (Lenny). Are you going to show us the named configuration of the Linux server which is saying that recursion is not available, and tell us the IP addresses of the client and the server? --Mike Bird -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201101051250.14963.mgb-deb...@yosemite.net
LVS+bond interfaces with vlan
Hi, I wonder is it possible to set up LVS on bonded vlan interface? I tried but couldn't do anything what would be work. Bonded interface with vlan works perfectly but when I try use ipvsadmin and heartbeat it won't work. Can anyone point me what's wrong? Or maybe it is not possible to set configuration like this. Best regards, Bramboruch
Re: Sound recording in Debian Lenny
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 1:22 PM, Camaleón wrote: > On Wed, 05 Jan 2011 15:44:20 +, Lisi wrote: > >> I need a sound recorder, and would prefer that it be in Debian Lenny, >> but a dual-boot would be possible. It must fulfil the following >> criteria: >> >> 1) Be managed by someone who knows a little bit about Linux, less about >> Debian and absolutely zilch about sound recording and balancing etc. Not sure if matching this criteria, but the very basic I've successfully used like years ago to record from some old LPs is plain arecord. From the MAN output: NAME arecord, aplay - command-line sound recorder and player for ALSA soundcard driver SYNOPSIS arecord [flags] [filename] aplay [flags] [filename [filename]] ... DESCRIPTION arecord is a command-line soundfile recorder for the ALSA soundcard driver. It supports several file formats and multiple soundcards with multiple devices. If recording with interleaved mode samples the file is automatically split before the 2GB filesize. aplay is much the same, only it plays instead of recording. For supported soundfile formats, the sampling rate, bit depth, and so forth can be automatically determined from the soundfile header. If filename is not specified, the standard output or input is used. The aplay utility accepts multiple filenames. arecord and aplay chould come with alsa-utils: % apt-cache search 'arecord' alsa-utils - Utilities for configuring and using ALSA -- Javier. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktikt2f-c4ltztcuqihkthqp=cntz-gsc=4mox...@mail.gmail.com
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Re: lighttpd - fastcgi-php - php5-cgi
Informatik.hu wrote: > I would like use lighttpd with fastcgi-php. Fastcgi-php connects to > php5-cgi on 127.0.0.1:521. > I can start "php5-cgi -b 127.0.0.1:521" with root, but i would like > to run in with another user, like www-data. Ports below 1024 are available only to the root user. In order to use them with a non-root user you would need to pick a port above 1024. > Exactly i want to run multiple php5-cgi with multiple user > (different ports per virtual hosts). > > When i try to start php5-cgi with a normal user, i got the > > "Cannot bind/listen socket - [13] Permission denied. Couldn't create > FastCGI listen socket on port 127.0.0.1:522" Correct. To use port 521 or 522 it needs to be opened by the root user. This is a security restriction. > How can i star php5-cgi with a normal, or reduced user? The best solution would be to pick a port above 1024. Bbo signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: care and feeding (no longer resembles: Can Debian Backup ntfs File System?)
On Wed, Jan 05, 2011 at 11:01:03AM EST, Miles Fidelman wrote: > Lisi wrote: >> On Wednesday 05 January 2011 15:15:43 Camaleón wrote: [..] >> They know that the computer needs electricity and that the car needs petrol. >> I doubt that most people know more than that. > Well, I would hope they also know that their car needs (at least in the US): > - scheduled maintenance > - an annual inspection > - a registration sticker > - insurance > As well as: > - at some point, they took a driving test, and some of the > rules-of-the-road stuck > - they need to renew their license > - drive somewhere in the vicinity of the speed limit > - stop for red lights and stop signs > - don't drive under the influence > - don't sit in a closed garage with the motor running > - how to change a tire (or at least, how to call AAA) Muted chuckles.. what part of the U.S. are you referring to..? > The analogy to cars is a good one. It seems reasonable to expect > a computer user to acquire a set of skills akin to what one needs to > drive and maintain a car. It's probably not reasonable to require > a computer user to acquire skills akin to obtaining a pilot's > license. As long as they don't get it into their heads to invest in a 5-ton previously owned mainframe and attempt to drive it around the block, nobody's going to care. cj -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110105203144.gc4...@pavo.local
Re: Got recursion not available from...
Mike Bird wrote:
> vr wrote:
> > Mike Bird wrote:
> > > vr wrote:
> > >> nslookup X.X.X.X
> > >> ;; Got recursion not available from x.x.x.x, trying next server
> > >> ;; Got recursion not available from x.x.x.x, trying next server
>
> Are your name servers configured to allow recursion?
Older bind and newer bind have different defaults for recursion.
Older bind allowed it but newer bind defaults to it off for all but
the local subnet. Among other things this prevents bind from being
used in a distributed denial of service attack against a third party.
Are you using a nameserver on a different subnet? If so then I think
that will explain the problem. The nameserver on the other subnet
needs to allow your local subnet. You probably have one that allows
it and one that does not. This is why it works the second time.
For the first lookup it might hit a working server and just get the
answer. Or it might hit the one with recusion turned off. Then it
rotates to the next one and gets the answer. The second time around
the answer is cached and so no further lookups are done. You can
force a restart of bind in order to force it to look up for the first
time again.
If you list nameservers in the /etc/resolv.conf file then it will
always try them in the order listed. But the first nameserver there
may have forwarders configured on it. You need to follow the chain
through every nameserver that has forwarders listed until you get to
the end of the chain. Your description of the problem makes me think
the nameserver with the recursion disabled will be two away from you.
Look at the allow-recursion option to allow your subnets.
allow-recursion { 192.0.32.0/24; };
Nameservers listed in /etc/resolv.conf are tried in order with a
failure timeout. Because of that if the first nameserver is offline
then things operate but very slowly with a timeout for every lookup.
Therefore I always configure a local caching bind nameserver
configured with forwarders. That will pick the fastest responding
forwarder and avoid the timeout delay when one is down. Although
different versions of bind8 and bind9 have had different behaviors in
this area and some were better than others. If you had a local
caching nameserver configured you would probaby not have noticed your
upstream nameserver configuration errors.
Bob
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Re: google's ads
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 19:21, Richard Riley wrote: > Google ie4linux > No need, I even donated money to the developer once. I still don't consider wine "running" on Linux any more than saying that "I've been to Germany" because I was present on a train that passed through. IE is still running on the Windows API, even if there is an application that can translate most of those calls to Linux. -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktimx+rhd+fnmgyvttg0kcehzph+v9xk016zih...@mail.gmail.com
Re: squeeze audio cd and automount
On Wed, 05 Jan 2011 19:24:01 +0100, Filipe Freire wrote: > On 3 January 2011 19:07, Camaleón wrote: > >> > besides this audio cd are not detected ay least by sound-juicer and >> > totem. tried all audio devices. >> >> I'm also facing this problem: >> >> sound-juicer: doesn't find any CD drives, even when told which to use >> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=577088 >> >> In my case, hal daemon is running so I tried to restarting the service >> but not avail. Also, data CDs are mounted just fine. >> >> At least in lenny, although CD-Audio is not mounted as a normal data CD >> Sound Juicer can play it fine. In Squeezy, the CD-Audio is not even >> detected, but maybe you can try to access the media using another >> program as the bug reporter suggests :-? >> >> As per the USB flash drive, I dunno. What do you get when you connect a >> USB flash/disk drive and run "dmesg|tail -50"? > Hi, > > I looked at the bug report and tried (my drive is ATAPI) > > sound-juicer -d /dev/sr0 > > but it tells me I have no permission. I tried again with sudo and it > works. When I press play, it plays but gives the message: > > Cannot connect to server socket err = No such file or directory Cannot > connect to server socket > jack server is not running or cannot be started Uh? That is different from my error :-? Why should sound-juicer need jack server at all? > ls -l gives > > brw--- 1 root root 11, 0 Jan 2 22:00 /dev/sr0 Hum... mine looks different: t...@debian:~$ ls -l /dev/sr0 brw-rw+ 1 root cdrom 11, 0 ene 5 20:57 /dev/sr0 > so I made rw for everyone but still cannot start it but now I get the > HAL message mentioned in the bug report. Yep, and I still get the same message. > With totem I still can not get sound and get the message about not being > able to start jack. Me neither, probably due to this other bug: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=574680 Try to run totem from command line "totem cdda://dev/sr0" and totem will complain about it cannot handle cdda uri. > I checked my daemons and there is no jackd in /etc/init.d though jackd > is installed (but labelled as virtual package). > > I googled a few other similar complains but no clear solution. > > THere are other jackd packages which might help. Any feedback on this? I dunno if the jack server message is related to the problem, BTW, I only have this library installed: t...@debian:~$ dpkg -l | grep jack ii libjack0 1:0.118 +svn3796-7 JACK Audio Connection Kit (libraries) Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.01.05.20.21...@gmail.com
OpenVPN server mode usage?
Folk, For several years OpenVPN has provided a reliable tunnel between two machines, Dalton and Joule. Ref. http://142.103.107.138:80/NetworksPage.html Dalton has a static address. Joule has a dynamic address, usually available by reference to joule.yi.org. This depended upon a DDNS server at yi.org. Recently the DDNS server hasn't been updating and I've wondered about other configurations. One possibility appears to be for Dalton to run in server mode and for Joule to be an OpenVPN client. So I'm thinking to remove option "remote joule.yi.org" and add "mode server" in the configuration file on Dalton. No such thing as "mode client". Is a client connection profile necessary on Joule when there is only one server? Any comments or criticisms or suggestions before I blunder further? Thanks, ... Peter E. -- http://members.shaw.ca/peasthope/ http://carnot.yi.org/ = http://carnot.pathology.ubc.ca/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cee2d4079d8f6.4d246...@shaw.ca
Re: sleeping the system vs hibernate or suspend
On Wed, Jan 05, 2011 at 01:08:27PM EST, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: >> Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: [..] >> When I issue 'acpitool -s' from konsole on X, the system does not shut >> down right and does not resume but boots with the 4 disks messed up. >> > > But sad to say it only works about 50% of the time. Either suspend is not > right or the resume fails. Worse than early missile firings. :-( Hm.. I didn't follow the thread, but I'd rather have my 4 disks messed up 50% of the time than 100% of the time :-) cj -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110105201527.gb4...@pavo.local
Re: squeeze us-intl w/ dead keys on i386/pc/qwerty keyboard
On Wed, Jan 05, 2011 at 06:39:53AM EST, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Tue, 04 Jan 2011, Doug wrote: > > There's a better way. It uses a subset of Unicode and the "compose" > > key. On a normal PC keyboard, you have to make a compose key out > > You must be joking. That will work well only if you're writing english > text, which will require the use of the compose key rarely. > > Perfect dead key support is a *must* for many languages. It is a > reverse killer feature: if it is not there, it kills the product ;-) Matter of preference, I would say.. The nationals of some European countries are at home with dead keys because that's the way their keyboards are laid out, Portugal is a good example. And then there are those countries that favor precomposed glyphs and an additional modifier, such as Germany. Probably one of the strengths of English as an international language is that you can type it without any remapping on just about any keyboard that's based on the latin alphabet. Apart from the tiny minority who happen to be literate in two or more languages outside English, the problem is mostly for those who need to type another language on a standard U.S. keyboard. And the fact that U.S. keyboards have one key less (the one at the bottom left of the keyboard, next to Left-Shift) than European keyboards does not make things any easier. Personally, even though I am pretty sure that with adequate practice, dead keys would eventually prove more efficient than using AltGr, I find the mechanism confusing because with most text-entry systems.. you don't see anything.. hm.. did I hit that dead key or did I miss it..? What do I do now.. because if I hit it again, it's going to beep at me.. all rather stressful.. :-) And continually having to hit the spacebar after single quotes is really a pain. As to the X Compose key, (and alter egos like Vim and GNU/screen's digraphs), it gives you the worst possible experience: confusing like dead keys, and impractical since one extra keystroke is required for each combined letter. Their only good point is that the key combinations being mnemonic in nature, you don't have to memorize key locations. Maybe the better solution for those who program and type in English most of the time, and only occasionally need to switch to another language is dead keys accessible via Mod3? Otherwise, if they really are serious about typing in half a dozen languages, or for those who constantly need to switch between Sanskrit and ancient Greek, the way to go is probably to acquire a 105-key unlabeled European keyboard and toggle layouts on the fly. But even for such tiny minorities, acquiring typing skills on different layouts requires considerable time and effort. cj -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110105201031.ga4...@pavo.local
Re: Got recursion not available from...
On Wed, 5 Jan 2011 11:57:25 -0800, Mike Bird wrote: > On Wed January 5 2011 10:24:25 vr wrote: >> On Wed, 5 Jan 2011 10:03:36 -0800, Mike Bird wrote: >> > On Wed January 5 2011 09:11:50 vr wrote: >> >> nslookup X.X.X.X >> >> ;; Got recursion not available from x.x.x.x, trying next server >> >> ;; Got recursion not available from x.x.x.x, trying next server >> > >> > Please "cat /etc/resolv.conf" and post the result here. >> > >> > --Mike Bird >> >> nameserver x.x.x.x >> nameserver x.x.x.x >> >> The x's are obviously my IP's which I don't want on a public mailing >> list. > > Are you talking about 99.30.25.1 and 99.30.25.2? (They should be > on different backbones in different geographical areas.) > No. > Are your name servers configured to allow recursion? > Yes. > Didn't you say earlier that your name servers run under Windows 2003? > > If so, why is this a Linux issue? > > --Mike Bird In all cases of experiencing this issue, it's Linux clients querying a DNS server. The servers queried have been both Windows & Linux. The client that gets "recursion not available" is always Linux (Lenny). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/a51c3e0f1df9c55ebd93afc15c46b...@192.168.0.66
Re: repos for squeeze as a base install.
Thank You for Your time and answer, Simon: > You should comment out the backports repo until squeeze gets stable, > AFAIK backports and volatile are only available for the current > stable version of Debian. No. There is backports for squeeze too - to mix up not w/ the backborts of now stable branch. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d24cd34.017b0e0a.3dc4.3...@mx.google.com
Re: Got recursion not available from...
On Wed January 5 2011 10:24:25 vr wrote: > On Wed, 5 Jan 2011 10:03:36 -0800, Mike Bird wrote: > > On Wed January 5 2011 09:11:50 vr wrote: > >> nslookup X.X.X.X > >> ;; Got recursion not available from x.x.x.x, trying next server > >> ;; Got recursion not available from x.x.x.x, trying next server > > > > Please "cat /etc/resolv.conf" and post the result here. > > > > --Mike Bird > > nameserver x.x.x.x > nameserver x.x.x.x > > The x's are obviously my IP's which I don't want on a public mailing > list. Are you talking about 99.30.25.1 and 99.30.25.2? (They should be on different backbones in different geographical areas.) Are your name servers configured to allow recursion? Didn't you say earlier that your name servers run under Windows 2003? If so, why is this a Linux issue? --Mike Bird -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201101051157.26009.mgb-deb...@yosemite.net
Re: Limited or no video playback with mkv containing H.264
On 01/06/2011 12:42 AM, teddi...@tmo.blackberry.net wrote: Hello; I am about to kill my computer... I have an older AMD Atholon64 3200 With 2GB RAM and an EVGA Geforce 6600 Graphics card (128 mb Graphics Memory) I am running Testing with current Kernel 2.6.32-5-686 I have some .mkv video files containing H.264 in VLC I get Audio and Solid green screen (black screen when I set driver to GLX Video Output XCB) If I load the same files in Xine I get half video with bottom half solid green. I have "upgraded" from default drivers to Nvidia's system, and best I can tell I am using that driver, not sure how to verify for sure, it's referenced in lsmod and xorg.config I have played with and run every MKV / H.264 codec I can find. I am not really familiar with advanced graphics and xorg configuration so not sure if I am just missing something. Thanks for your time; TeddyB Maybe the MKVs are corrupt ? does mplayer fare any better ? I got an AMD with a Geforce 7000 with nividia drivers and stock Xorg conf with whatever settings the nvidia-config sets at the time of installation and MKvs with h264 plays just fine on both VLC and mplayer. Both players using whatever the default video out they come with. Mihira -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d24c596.4030...@gmail.com
lighttpd - fastcgi-php - php5-cgi
Hi! I would like use lighttpd with fastcgi-php. Fastcgi-php connects to php5-cgi on 127.0.0.1:521. I can start "php5-cgi -b 127.0.0.1:521" with root, but i would like to run in with another user, like www-data. Exactly i want to run multiple php5-cgi with multiple user (different ports per virtual hosts). When i try to start php5-cgi with a normal user, i got the "Cannot bind/listen socket - [13] Permission denied. Couldn't create FastCGI listen socket on port 127.0.0.1:522" How can i star php5-cgi with a normal, or reduced user? Vuki -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d24c03f.4050...@informatik.hu
Re: Sound recording in Debian Lenny
On Wed, 05 Jan 2011 15:44:20 +, Lisi wrote: > I need a sound recorder, and would prefer that it be in Debian Lenny, > but a dual-boot would be possible. It must fulfil the following > criteria: > > 1) Be managed by someone who knows a little bit about Linux, less about > Debian and absolutely zilch about sound recording and balancing etc. > > 2) Ideally, usable by someone who knows even less about computers and > sound recording, but can use this package without too active a helping > hand. (...) "Krecord" could be an option but is not in the repos anymore, maybe you can search in the snapshot archive: http://snapshot.debian.org/package/krecord/1.16-3/ Probably that packages wwere for Debian 4.x, not sure if it will install in lenny :-? Or you can try to compile from sources: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/KRecord+-+Wav+Recorder?content=26436 Just note that this is an old and discontinued application that required KDE 3.4 and all its Qt 3.x libraries. So you can explorer another packages, like "qarecord": http://qt-apps.org/content/show.php/QARecord?content=112651 (maybe you can still find a release that works under Qt3...) Another option could be installing the "gnome-media" metapackage that has the gnome-sound-recorder app, but I personally, prefer not to mix desktop environments libraries/applications (call me "old-fashioned", but I hate dealing with silly DE collisions :-P). Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.01.05.19.22...@gmail.com
Re: Got recursion not available from...
On Wed, 05 Jan 2011 19:42:07 +0100, (François TOURDE) wrote: > Le 14979ième jour après Epoch, > vr écrivait: > >> On Wed, 5 Jan 2011 10:03:36 -0800, Mike Bird wrote: >>> On Wed January 5 2011 09:11:50 vr wrote: nslookup X.X.X.X ;; Got recursion not available from x.x.x.x, trying next server ;; Got recursion not available from x.x.x.x, trying next server >>> >>> Please "cat /etc/resolv.conf" and post the result here. >>> >>> --Mike Bird >> >> nameserver x.x.x.x >> nameserver x.x.x.x >> >> The x's are obviously my IP's which I don't want on a public mailing >> list. > > Your ip is probably 99.30.25.3, which is on your mail headers.. ;) > No, that's the network I'm posting to this mailing list from. ;-) > It's strange to have your public IP used as a resolver on your local > network. > > Could you give us more infos about your connection and your router? How > are the machines connected ? This is a little difficult because I've been able to experience it on a few different networks with virtualized clients and virtualized DNS servers and others with physical clients and physical DNS servers. I suppose I can outline where I discovered it first with the hopes that the pitchforks won't come out since it's a Linux client querying a Windows 2003 server? In that scenario there is one ESXi 4.0 node hosting Debian Lenny and Windows 2003SP2. They sit on the same physical node. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/fec5f53dc6ae9cfcb2cee92cc7c50...@192.168.0.66
Limited or no video playback with mkv containing H.264
Hello; I am about to kill my computer... I have an older AMD Atholon64 3200 With 2GB RAM and an EVGA Geforce 6600 Graphics card (128 mb Graphics Memory) I am running Testing with current Kernel 2.6.32-5-686 I have some .mkv video files containing H.264 in VLC I get Audio and Solid green screen (black screen when I set driver to GLX Video Output XCB) If I load the same files in Xine I get half video with bottom half solid green. I have "upgraded" from default drivers to Nvidia's system, and best I can tell I am using that driver, not sure how to verify for sure, it's referenced in lsmod and xorg.config I have played with and run every MKV / H.264 codec I can find. I am not really familiar with advanced graphics and xorg configuration so not sure if I am just missing something. Thanks for your time; TeddyB -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1765384791-1294254761-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-9241633...@bda029.bisx.prod.on.blackberry
Re: Second acount on iceweasel
On 01/05/2011 05:48 PM, Gary Roach wrote: I have this iceweasel account (debian machine) for technical stuff and another acount (thunderbird) on a win2k machine for my normal email. I want to transfer the win2k account to this machine. How do I do that without getting the two accounts intermingled. Gary R. Hi, if I understand correctly you have 2 different email accounts for example m...@examle1.com and m...@example2.com? And I guess you mean icedove not iceweasel? In that case in debian machine create in icedove mail account from win2k box, then go to edit->account settings->your new mail acc. and under server settings in local directory chouse path where you wont to store mails from win2k. Under copies & folders check that sent, draft etc. folder are on your win2k mail account. After that copy/paste mail directory from win2k thunderbird to debian icedove directory. If you have lenny i guess you have previous version of icedove 2.X so when you create your account uncheck something like "Put all mail in local directory". If you have version 3.X there is not that check box. -- Bye, Goran Dobosevic Hrvatski: www.dobosevic.com English: www.dobosevic.com/en/ Registered Linux User #503414 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d24bcaa.5080...@dobosevic.com
Re: Second acount on iceweasel
On Wed, 05 Jan 2011 08:48:01 -0800, Gary Roach wrote: > I have this iceweasel account You mean an "icedove account", right? > (debian machine) for technical stuff and another acount (thunderbird) > on a win2k machine for my normal email. I want to transfer the win2k > account to this machine. How do I do that without getting the two > accounts intermingled. Do you want to transfer your e-mail account settings (pop/imap/smtp server, etc...) or a complete profile, with full e-mails, address books...? This article is worth reading: Transferring data to a new profile - Thunderbird http://kb.mozillazine.org/Transferring_data_to_a_new_profile_-_Thunderbird You can also work with two complete separate profiles and launch Icedove with the one you prefer each time (old profile from win2k or your current debian's profile): http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_Manager Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.01.05.18.50...@gmail.com
Re: Got recursion not available from...
Le 14979ième jour après Epoch, vr écrivait: > On Wed, 5 Jan 2011 10:03:36 -0800, Mike Bird wrote: >> On Wed January 5 2011 09:11:50 vr wrote: >>> nslookup X.X.X.X >>> ;; Got recursion not available from x.x.x.x, trying next server >>> ;; Got recursion not available from x.x.x.x, trying next server >> >> Please "cat /etc/resolv.conf" and post the result here. >> >> --Mike Bird > > nameserver x.x.x.x > nameserver x.x.x.x > > The x's are obviously my IP's which I don't want on a public mailing > list. Your ip is probably 99.30.25.3, which is on your mail headers.. ;) It's strange to have your public IP used as a resolver on your local network. Could you give us more infos about your connection and your router? How are the machines connected ? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87r5crur9c@fermat.tourde.home
Re: Can Debian Backup ntfs File System?
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 10:30 AM, Mihira Fernando wrote: > On 01/05/2011 11:20 PM, Klistvud wrote: > >> >> Seems I'm one of the few who sincerely think that not all users should, or >> even could, be required to know the inner workings of each and every >> technology they use. In real life, people are forced (by their job or >> whatever) >> > [snip] > >> And yet, you took the trouble to actually learn that the car needs > coolant in the radiator, gas in the tank and other oil in their respective > places and you too the trouble to learn how to fill/refill those. The car is > not set to automatically fill them up are they ? > Same applies for the PC. Just as a car owner learns those things to use his > car, a PC owner should take the trouble to learn the basics which includes > learning the importance of backups and setting up backups. Also mandatory > setting of backups during the install process doesnt make much sense as the > same OS can be installed in any number of setups where backup media may not > be available at the time of installation. It should be set as an optional > post installation procedure. > I think some people don't view a computer as their own car, but more like the public bus. Someone else maintains it, keeps it running, and all they have to do is use it. My dad sees it this way, at least, and I'm guessing he's not the only one. Only until he experiences the pain of lost data will he change his ways. There are probably others like this. Bailing someone out is sometimes the best way to ensure the bad habits persist as they don't see reason to change their ways. I'm not suggesting letting things fail intentionally, but I think the point is understandable nonetheless. Mark
Re: Can Debian Backup ntfs File System?
On 01/05/2011 11:20 PM, Klistvud wrote: Dne, 05. 01. 2011 15:28:47 je Lisi napisal(a): On Wednesday 05 January 2011 12:03:59 Camaleón wrote: > At least you should have learned one lesson: _never trust_ what your > users say and tell them to _prove_ their wording with facts (that is, by > checking with her that the data was properly backed up and can be > restored from the aforementioned "unexistent" copy) >;-) I did look at the pen drive to make sure that the copies were there and retrievable. But I didn't know enough about her data to know that the most recent 'photos were missing. It is not certain that they could have been rescued at that point even if I had known! If it weren't for the fact that she is going around telling very hurtful untruths about me, I would be the gainer. She was hard work, demanding and not very profitable! But sometimes they _know_ that they haven't got copies, but are unwilling to have them. It means buying something to put them on. Lisi Seems I'm one of the few who sincerely think that not all users should, or even could, be required to know the inner workings of each and every technology they use. In real life, people are forced (by their job or whatever) to use many modern technologies, and in our technology-based development model, this trend is bound to increase. Should every driver necessarily know ALL the fluid circuits of a vehicle, and their check/refill intervals? I honestly don't -- do you? Of course I know the obvious -- the fuel, the cooling fluid, the brake fluid -- but beyond that, everything becomes vague, blurred and, well, "fluid". The cars should be (and, after decades of development, finally are) projected such that without all the fluids in place they simply won't start, while notifying the driver with an appropriate flashing indicator on the dashboard. Much the same should go for computers -- even more so, since in computers, automating tasks is not just a collateral object, but the primary one. An operating system should have reliable backup policies built-in; for example, it should backup the entire /home subtree to rewritable DVDs, or a network share, on a weekly basis. When installing the system, the user should be asked where to and how often the backups should be made, just as (s)he is asked for the time zone and the language to be used. Without this info, the installation should simply refuse to go on. Computers -- just as cars -- are not aficionado, niche technology anymore, and we should stop treating them as such: a computer operating system should be as resilient, self-sufficient and user-independent as humanly possible. That doesn't mean, of course, that knowing the inner workings of our technologies should be obfuscated or even actively prevented (as seems, sadly, to be the trend in both Mac OS and Windows). However, it should be left to individual preferences, not forced upon us one way or the other. I, for one, enjoy fiddling with computers; but not nearly as much as I despise anything that has to do with inner combustion engines ... And yet, you took the trouble to actually learn that the car needs coolant in the radiator, gas in the tank and other oil in their respective places and you too the trouble to learn how to fill/refill those. The car is not set to automatically fill them up are they ? Same applies for the PC. Just as a car owner learns those things to use his car, a PC owner should take the trouble to learn the basics which includes learning the importance of backups and setting up backups. Also mandatory setting of backups during the install process doesnt make much sense as the same OS can be installed in any number of setups where backup media may not be available at the time of installation. It should be set as an optional post installation procedure. Mihira. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d24b8d9.7070...@gmail.com
Re: Got recursion not available from...
On Wed, 5 Jan 2011 10:03:36 -0800, Mike Bird wrote: > On Wed January 5 2011 09:11:50 vr wrote: >> nslookup X.X.X.X >> ;; Got recursion not available from x.x.x.x, trying next server >> ;; Got recursion not available from x.x.x.x, trying next server > > Please "cat /etc/resolv.conf" and post the result here. > > --Mike Bird nameserver x.x.x.x nameserver x.x.x.x The x's are obviously my IP's which I don't want on a public mailing list. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/39e25269d3c9b4994404c48f3e001...@192.168.0.66
Re: squeeze audio cd and automount
Hi, I looked at the bug report and tried (my drive is ATAPI) sound-juicer -d /dev/sr0 but it tells me I have no permission. I tried again with sudo and it works. When I press play, it plays but gives the message: Cannot connect to server socket err = No such file or directory Cannot connect to server socket jack server is not running or cannot be started ls -l gives brw--- 1 root root 11, 0 Jan 2 22:00 /dev/sr0 so I made rw for everyone but still cannot start it but now I get the HAL message mentioned in the bug report. With totem I still can not get sound and get the message about not being able to start jack. I checked my daemons and there is no jackd in /etc/init.d though jackd is installed (but labelled as virtual package). I googled a few other similar complains but no clear solution. THere are other jackd packages which might help. Any feedback on this? Cheers, Filipe On 3 January 2011 19:07, Camaleón wrote: > On Sun, 02 Jan 2011 22:17:56 +0100, Filipe Freire wrote: > > > automounting is not working since my upgrade to squeeze. the loader is > > now grub2. > > > > I can mount usb and, dvd's and data cd's only manually from the command > > line. /etc/fstab and nautilus options are as they should be. Only for > > dvd's nautilus creates a folder. > > > > besides this audio cd are not detected ay least by sound-juicer and > > totem. tried all audio devices. > > I'm also facing this problem: > > sound-juicer: doesn't find any CD drives, even when told which to use > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=577088 > > In my case, hal daemon is running so I tried to restarting the service > but not avail. Also, data CDs are mounted just fine. > > At least in lenny, although CD-Audio is not mounted as a normal data CD > Sound Juicer can play it fine. In Squeezy, the CD-Audio is not even > detected, but maybe you can try to access the media using another program > as the bug reporter suggests :-? > > As per the USB flash drive, I dunno. What do you get when you connect a > USB flash/disk drive and run "dmesg|tail -50"? > > Greetings, > > -- > Camaleón > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.01.03.18.07...@gmail.com > >
Re: sleeping the system vs hibernate or suspend
Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: bri...@aracnet.com wrote: On Mon, 3 Jan 2011 08:44:22 -0600 Javier Vasquez wrote: On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 1:18 PM, wrote: ... Someone posted (to this list) a simple command line for sleeping the system. ... acpitool -S => suspend to disk (hibernate) => Puts machine into S4. acpitool -s => suspend to ram (sleep) => Puts machine into S3. man acpitool it is, appropriately, in the acpitool package. But do either of the commands work? I'll be darned... 'acpitool -s' *works from a VT* (not from X). Except I get this from alsa when KUSC is playing with mplayer: [AO_ALSA] Pcm in suspend mode, trying to resume. [AO_ALSA] alsa-lib: pcm_hw.c:709:(snd_pcm_hw_resume) SNDRV_PCM_IOCTL_RESUME failed (-38): Function not implemented Which is bug 574844, I believe. Which is an mplayer bug but nothing heard from since august 2010. But sound is there, X is there, and of course it is instantaneous. FWIW, this is with Sid and a box with an M4N98TD EVO asus mobo, 4 GB of memory, one "GeForce 8400 GS" NVidia PCI-e card, 2 IDE disks, 1 SATA disk and 1 USB disk. I had sound going, VT's going and X going with google-chrome browser and TB and Konsole. When I issue 'acpitool -s' from konsole on X, the system does not shut down right and does not resume but boots with the 4 disks messed up. But sad to say it only works about 50% of the time. Either suspend is not right or the resume fails. Worse than early missile firings. :-( Hugo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/ig2c2s$ve...@dough.gmane.org
Re: google's ads
Klistvud schreef: Dne, 05. 01. 2011 13:40:22 je steef napisal(a): dear list, how do i get rid of google's by me unwanted extra's: ads reg., steef There are many ways you could go. Using one of the many ad blocker programs, or FireFox plugins... Using OpenDNS and their filtering capabilities... (my approach; combined with: Filtering URLs at the Squid level (the squid cache being also used to speed-up my Internet) ...and many more thank you all. i installed adblock-plus. problem solved: got rid of the shit regards, steef -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d24b461.7000...@home.nl
Second acount on iceweasel
I have this iceweasel account (debian machine) for technical stuff and another acount (thunderbird) on a win2k machine for my normal email. I want to transfer the win2k account to this machine. How do I do that without getting the two accounts intermingled. Gary R. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d24a0c1.1000...@verizon.net
Re: Got recursion not available from...
On Wed January 5 2011 09:11:50 vr wrote: > nslookup X.X.X.X > ;; Got recursion not available from x.x.x.x, trying next server > ;; Got recursion not available from x.x.x.x, trying next server Please "cat /etc/resolv.conf" and post the result here. --Mike Bird -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201101051003.36498.mgb-deb...@yosemite.net
Re: google's ads
Dne, 05. 01. 2011 13:40:22 je steef napisal(a): dear list, how do i get rid of google's by me unwanted extra's: ads reg., steef There are many ways you could go. Using one of the many ad blocker programs, or FireFox plugins... Using OpenDNS and their filtering capabilities... (my approach; combined with: Filtering URLs at the Squid level (the squid cache being also used to speed-up my Internet) ...and many more -- Cheerio, Klistvud http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Certifiable Loonix User #481801 Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1294250099.1996...@compax
Re: Can Debian Backup ntfs File System?
On Wednesday 05 January 2011 16:07:41 Camaleón wrote: > He, he... You may have not read the "obscure stories" that happen at > tech. support centers: > > http://www.rinkworks.com/stupid/cs_power.shtml > > (read, read on...) :-) ! Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201101051752.56019.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Can Debian Backup ntfs File System?
Zeroth rule of support - never trust your user's to tell you the entire story (corollary - people lie about what happened) First rule of support - before deleting *anything* make a backup copy yourself -- Patrick Ouellette p...@flying-gecko.net ne4po (at) arrl (dot) net Amateur Radio: NE4PO What kind of change have you been in the world today? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110105165045.gb24...@flying-gecko.net
Re: Can Debian Backup ntfs File System?
Dne, 05. 01. 2011 15:28:47 je Lisi napisal(a): On Wednesday 05 January 2011 12:03:59 Camaleón wrote: > At least you should have learned one lesson: _never trust_ what your > users say and tell them to _prove_ their wording with facts (that is, by > checking with her that the data was properly backed up and can be > restored from the aforementioned "unexistent" copy) >;-) I did look at the pen drive to make sure that the copies were there and retrievable. But I didn't know enough about her data to know that the most recent 'photos were missing. It is not certain that they could have been rescued at that point even if I had known! If it weren't for the fact that she is going around telling very hurtful untruths about me, I would be the gainer. She was hard work, demanding and not very profitable! But sometimes they _know_ that they haven't got copies, but are unwilling to have them. It means buying something to put them on. Lisi Seems I'm one of the few who sincerely think that not all users should, or even could, be required to know the inner workings of each and every technology they use. In real life, people are forced (by their job or whatever) to use many modern technologies, and in our technology-based development model, this trend is bound to increase. Should every driver necessarily know ALL the fluid circuits of a vehicle, and their check/refill intervals? I honestly don't -- do you? Of course I know the obvious -- the fuel, the cooling fluid, the brake fluid -- but beyond that, everything becomes vague, blurred and, well, "fluid". The cars should be (and, after decades of development, finally are) projected such that without all the fluids in place they simply won't start, while notifying the driver with an appropriate flashing indicator on the dashboard. Much the same should go for computers -- even more so, since in computers, automating tasks is not just a collateral object, but the primary one. An operating system should have reliable backup policies built-in; for example, it should backup the entire /home subtree to rewritable DVDs, or a network share, on a weekly basis. When installing the system, the user should be asked where to and how often the backups should be made, just as (s)he is asked for the time zone and the language to be used. Without this info, the installation should simply refuse to go on. Computers -- just as cars -- are not aficionado, niche technology anymore, and we should stop treating them as such: a computer operating system should be as resilient, self-sufficient and user-independent as humanly possible. That doesn't mean, of course, that knowing the inner workings of our technologies should be obfuscated or even actively prevented (as seems, sadly, to be the trend in both Mac OS and Windows). However, it should be left to individual preferences, not forced upon us one way or the other. I, for one, enjoy fiddling with computers; but not nearly as much as I despise anything that has to do with inner combustion engines ... -- Cheerio, Klistvud http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Certifiable Loonix User #481801 Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1294249838.1996...@compax
Re: Can Debian Backup ntfs File System?
Camaleón wrote: They know that the computer needs electricity and that the car needs petrol. I doubt that most people know more than that. Really!!?? I wish they remember -at least- just that :-P He, he... You may have not read the "obscure stories" that happen at tech. support centers: http://www.rinkworks.com/stupid/cs_power.shtml notable for it's absence: Tech: Look at the back of the machine, is the power on? Customer: I can't tell. Tech: Why not? Customer: It's too dark? Tech: Turn on a light. Customer: Can't Tech: Why not? Customer: The power seems to be out. -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is. Yogi Berra -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d24ad25.3080...@meetinghouse.net
Re: google's ads
Sjoerd Hardeman writes: > Dotan Cohen schreef: >> On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 15:34, Simon Hollenbach >> wrote: >>> Does IE support addons by now? im not talking about toolbars... >>> >> >> Does IE run on Debian by now?!? > Actually, using wine, it does. > > Sjoerd Google ie4linux -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/ig29bi$fh...@dough.gmane.org
Got recursion not available from...
I'm using a Lenny system to host Postfix and Windows 2003 for name resolution. More frequently than I probably should, I will see NOQUEUE in /var/log/mail.log related to DNS lookups. I've not yet narrowed it down to forward lookups, reverse lookups or both. I originally suspected the Windows box but I can reproduce these failures on other systems from the nslookup command line tool and without using Windows 2003 for name resolution. Also on systems without Postfix. So I started Googling and find hits like this one: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=827449 My command line errors look the same as reported at that URL. nslookup X.X.X.X ;; Got recursion not available from x.x.x.x, trying next server ;; Got recursion not available from x.x.x.x, trying next server Server: x.x.x.x Address:x.x.x.x#53 Non-authoritative answer: *** Cant find X.X.X.X: No answer Usually for me, querying a single IP will fail the first time, then subsequent lookups against the same data will succeed. The only way I've been able to reproduce it in succession was if an IP address lookup fails (say 12.34.56.78) I can query 12.34.56.79, .80, .81 to see the recursion not available message. At this point I'm not sure if it's a problem with NSLOOKUP, or whatever DNS library Lenny is using, or my environment specifically so Has anyone run across this problem and defeated it? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/3e1f6e751ddeee9814605a9fc09b7...@192.168.0.66
Re: insserv + apache2 + bind9 = pain
Hi, Debian package respects all sysadmin choices. We do not overwrite them. If not, that is a serious bug. Some careful and respectful questining to keep this promise seem to annoy some people who have not found typical work around steps. (Besides, there were some bug on apatch2 package.) On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 07:24:19PM -0500, Tom H wrote: ... > IIUC, you'll be prompted at every upgrade of "/etc/init.d/apache2" to > choose between your local copy or the maintainer's or to view a diff > (or a fourth option that I can't remember at the moment; shell > prompt?). I guess apach2 has some postinst script which alters conffile every time. If so, you may be asked repeated questions. (Most packages are not. If packager use fancy techniques, we can avoid such question. You may request such to the maintainer. See http://packages.debian.org/lenny/ucf) Still, this is an user selectable feature as I understand via apt.conf(5) via Dpkg or /etc/dpkg/dpkg.cfg. As I read dpkg(1), --force-confold is what you want. These feature can be changed. (But doing so will cause some other issues such as not keeping up with upfdated initialization scheme.) This changes applies not just for apatch2 but applies for all. I do not know if I can selectively apply this only for the apatch2 package. That is interesting wishlist bug. If I got into such hussle issue and need to deal for many machines, I will think about using apt.conf(5) via Dpkg::Pre-Invoke, Dpkg::Post-Invoke. There you run your script to save and restore your custom configuration files with your custom santy chacks if it is absolutely needed. Maybe fai etc have fancy method for such high power admin. But it seems small hussle for me to say "Use old" or run small hack script since I am a small system admin. If you create such script or work around nicely, let us know. Osamu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110105165048.ga9...@debian.org
Re: google's ads
Dotan Cohen schreef: On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 15:34, Simon Hollenbach wrote: Does IE support addons by now? im not talking about toolbars... Does IE run on Debian by now?!? Actually, using wine, it does. Sjoerd signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: sleeping the system vs hibernate or suspend
On Wed, 05 Jan 2011 11:12:26 -0500, Toan Pham wrote: > Here is the ref. Please read paragraph at section "how much swap do i > need?". This article is pretty good for those who want to understand > swap space. > > > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq Uh? :-? Ah, now I realize what you mean... you are speaking about the recommended amount for the "/swap" partition but *not* when used in conjuction with hibernation, so that rule does not apply for what we are speaking here. >From the above doc: *** In reality, if you use hibernation you need what was outlined the relevant paragraph above, otherwise you need as much swap space as your system will use - which may be actually be very little in a modern hardware setup. *** And the above paragraph says (bolded text is mine): *** Hibernation (suspend-to-disk) The hibernation feature (suspend-to-disk) writes out the contents of RAM to the swap partition before turning off the machine. Therefore, *your swap partition should be at least as big as your RAM size*. The hibernation implementation currently used in Ubuntu, swsusp, needs a swap or suspend partition. It cannot use a swap file on an active file system. *** Besides, that recommendation for the swap space is not nowadays right and it's easy to understand why. I have 8 GiB of physical ram: s...@stt008:~$ free -g total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem: 7 0 6 0 0 0 -/+ buffers/cache: 0 7 Swap:2 0 2 So I can even work with no "/swap" at all and my system will be happy :-) I think that rule is something similar to the windows one, which recommends having a paging file (pagefile.sys) of "1.5" of the installed ram, but with todays computers that is also a bit outdated. > Sorry that i reference a Ubuntu source on this Debian mailing list. No problem, but I'm afraid you were speaking about another different thing :-) Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.01.05.16.57...@gmail.com
Re: google's ads
Camaleón schreef: On Wed, 05 Jan 2011 16:52:10 +0100, steef wrote: Camaleón schreef: On Wed, 05 Jan 2011 13:40:22 +0100, steef wrote: how do i get rid of google's by me unwanted extra's: ads What browser are you using? There are tons of add-ons for Firefox/Iceweael aimed to removing/blocking all kind of ads/javascript/multimedia... seamonkey 2.0.11 on a lenny machine Then "adblock plus" could be an option: http://www.ehow.com/how_5873789_remove-ads-attched-google-search.html Greetings, works perfect! thanks a lot. kind regards, steef -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d24a093.4040...@home.nl
Re: sleeping the system vs hibernate or suspend
Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: bri...@aracnet.com wrote: On Mon, 3 Jan 2011 08:44:22 -0600 Javier Vasquez wrote: On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 1:18 PM, wrote: ... Someone posted (to this list) a simple command line for sleeping the system. ... acpitool -S => suspend to disk (hibernate) => Puts machine into S4. acpitool -s => suspend to ram (sleep) => Puts machine into S3. man acpitool it is, appropriately, in the acpitool package. But do either of the commands work? I'll be darned... 'acpitool -s' *works from a VT* (not from X). Except I get this from alsa when KUSC is playing with mplayer: [AO_ALSA] Pcm in suspend mode, trying to resume. [AO_ALSA] alsa-lib: pcm_hw.c:709:(snd_pcm_hw_resume) SNDRV_PCM_IOCTL_RESUME failed (-38): Function not implemented Which is bug 574844, I believe. Which is an mplayer bug but nothing heard from since august 2010. But sound is there, X is there, and of course it is instantaneous. FWIW, this is with Sid and a box with an M4N98TD EVO asus mobo, 4 GB of memory, one "GeForce 8400 GS" NVidia PCI-e card, 2 IDE disks, 1 SATA disk and 1 USB disk. I had sound going, VT's going and X going with google-chrome browser and TB and Konsole. When I issue 'acpitool -s' from konsole on X, the system does not shut down right and does not resume but boots with the 4 disks messed up. Hugo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/ig25vj$sp...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Sound recording in Debian Lenny
Krec, Audacity etc. are non-starters because they assume that you would know how to use at least a simple mixer. Forgot to say...you don't have to know that. There is only one slider for input (mic.) volume and that's enough. Look at the pic.: www.dobosevic.com/nix/audacity.png When I recording my voice I only put correct mic. volume and press red button for recording. -- Bye, Goran Dobosevic Hrvatski: www.dobosevic.com English: www.dobosevic.com/en/ Registered Linux User #503414 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d249aa9.2060...@dobosevic.com
Re: USB keyboard compatibility with Debian
> I'm thinking of getting a USB keyboard to use with my laptop. Is there > anything I should know about compatibility issues? > Some of the extra features of the fancier usb keyboards might take a bit of a configuring, but I've never had a usb keyboard which - as a basic keyboard - didn't just work on plugin. Most media keys and stuff worked fine too - I suspect you'd only see problems with really left-field things like fingerprint scanners and so on. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/73c852df-803b-458e-9bda-b568ef4d1...@fx12g2000vbb.googlegroups.com
Re: Sound recording in Debian Lenny
On Wed, 2011-01-05 at 15:44 +, Lisi wrote: > I am after something from never-never land, but I live in hopes. > > I need a sound recorder, and would prefer that it be in Debian Lenny, > but a dual-boot would be possible. It must fulfil the following > criteria: Interesting requirements to say the least. > I have searched online both in the list of Debian packages and via > Google, and have used aptitude search and, for luck, aptitude show. > Krec, Audacity etc. are non-starters because they assume that you > would know how to use at least a simple mixer. I don't. I simply > couldn't work out how to work them, partly because I did not even know > the vocabulary. If you can install Debian you can use a mixer. Have you visited this page? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Linux_audio_software#Recording.2C_editing_and_mastering Unfortunately I don't know too many recording apps off the top of my head that meet your criteria. I was going to suggest Audacity. For basic audio recording that does the job. It certainly isn't a full-featured DAW like Ardour, Cubase, or Pro-Toolsnot that your husband needs those anyway. > Debian Lenny is what my husband has currently on his computer. He > doesn't like change. He is using KDE 3. I am about to set up Squeeze > with Trinity to see whether I think that it has come of age. But > meanwhile, Lenny it has to be. > This shouldn't be a problem. -- Petrus Validus petrus.vali...@gmail.com If there isn't a way, I'll make one. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1294244806.9344.13.ca...@axon.8eews
Re: Sound recording in Debian Lenny
On 01/05/2011 04:44 PM, Lisi wrote: I am after something from never-never land, but I live in hopes. I need a sound recorder, and would prefer that it be in Debian Lenny, but a dual-boot would be possible. It must fulfil the following criteria: 1) Be managed by someone who knows a little bit about Linux, less about Debian and absolutely zilch about sound recording and balancing etc. 2) Ideally, usable by someone who knows even less about computers and sound recording, but can use this package without too active a helping hand. Last time my husband needed to record a book, I Installed Jaunty on a computer that I had to dedicate to it, used gnome-sound-recorder and held his hand constantly. I have searched online both in the list of Debian packages and via Google, and have used aptitude search and, for luck, aptitude show. Krec, Audacity etc. are non-starters because they assume that you would know how to use at least a simple mixer. I don't. I simply couldn't work out how to work them, partly because I did not even know the vocabulary. Debian Lenny is what my husband has currently on his computer. He doesn't like change. He is using KDE 3. I am about to set up Squeeze with Trinity to see whether I think that it has come of age. But meanwhile, Lenny it has to be. Thanks for any input. Lisi Hi, what do you think about Audacity? Nice big buttons just like on tape-recorders. And if there is a need for sound editing like cutting, up/down volume, exporting in various formats it is very easy. -- Bye, Goran Dobosevic Hrvatski: www.dobosevic.com English: www.dobosevic.com/en/ Registered Linux User #503414 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d2497b8.20...@dobosevic.com
Re: google's ads
On Wed, 05 Jan 2011 16:52:10 +0100, steef wrote: > Camaleón schreef: >> On Wed, 05 Jan 2011 13:40:22 +0100, steef wrote: >> >> >>> how do i get rid of google's by me unwanted extra's: ads >>> >> What browser are you using? >> >> There are tons of add-ons for Firefox/Iceweael aimed to >> removing/blocking all kind of ads/javascript/multimedia... >> >> > seamonkey 2.0.11 on a lenny machine Then "adblock plus" could be an option: http://www.ehow.com/how_5873789_remove-ads-attched-google-search.html Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.01.05.16.11...@gmail.com
Re: unattended upgrades: bug 609023
El 2011-01-05 a las 14:43 +, Tony van der Hoff escribió: (resending to the list) > On 05/01/11 12:50, Camaleón wrote: >> If my findings are correct, the problem is in the script itself and the >> package should be updated... but being for lenny (stable), I'm not sure >> if that is possible. > > Bug filed as 609...@bugs.debian.org. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=609023 Good. Maybe Simon also wants to add his comments in the bug, the more people is facing the same problem and says "me too!", the better. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110105155843.gb6...@stt008.linux.site
Re: sleeping the system vs hibernate or suspend
Here is the ref. Please read paragraph at section "how much swap do i need?". This article is pretty good for those who want to understand swap space. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq Sorry that i reference a Ubuntu source on this Debian mailing list. -toan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktimkhxe_to963e-xwgttcskznmm2=7kel_5an...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Can Debian Backup ntfs File System?
On Wed, 05 Jan 2011 15:50:47 +, Lisi wrote: > On Wednesday 05 January 2011 15:15:43 Camaleón wrote: >> What would you think if a person tells you that he thought his car was >> going to be fed "automatically"? Hey, he didn't know there were oil >> stations that provide such facilities and he also thought that being >> year 2011 the cars do not need fuel (nor any other power source) to be >> started > > They know that the computer needs electricity and that the car needs > petrol. I doubt that most people know more than that. Really!!?? I wish they remember -at least- just that :-P He, he... You may have not read the "obscure stories" that happen at tech. support centers: http://www.rinkworks.com/stupid/cs_power.shtml (read, read on...) Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.01.05.16.07...@gmail.com
care and feeding (no longer resembles: Can Debian Backup ntfs File System?)
Lisi wrote: On Wednesday 05 January 2011 15:15:43 Camaleón wrote: What would you think if a person tells you that he thought his car was going to be fed "automatically"? Hey, he didn't know there were oil stations that provide such facilities and he also thought that being year 2011 the cars do not need fuel (nor any other power source) to be started They know that the computer needs electricity and that the car needs petrol. I doubt that most people know more than that. Well, I would hope they also know that their car needs (at least in the US): - scheduled maintenance - an annual inspection - a registration sticker - insurance As well as: - at some point, they took a driving test, and some of the rules-of-the-road stuck - they need to renew their license - drive somewhere in the vicinity of the speed limit - stop for red lights and stop signs - don't drive under the influence - don't sit in a closed garage with the motor running - how to change a tire (or at least, how to call AAA) The analogy to cars is a good one. It seems reasonable to expect a computer user to acquire a set of skills akin to what one needs to drive and maintain a car. It's probably not reasonable to require a computer user to acquire skills akin to obtaining a pilot's license. -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is. Yogi Berra -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d2495bf.9060...@meetinghouse.net
Re: google's ads
Camaleón schreef: On Wed, 05 Jan 2011 13:40:22 +0100, steef wrote: how do i get rid of google's by me unwanted extra's: ads What browser are you using? There are tons of add-ons for Firefox/Iceweael aimed to removing/blocking all kind of ads/javascript/multimedia... Greetings, seamonkey 2.0.11 on a lenny machine s. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d2493aa.6000...@home.nl
Re: Can Debian Backup ntfs File System?
On Wednesday 05 January 2011 15:15:43 Camaleón wrote: > What would you think if a person tells you that he thought his car was > going to be fed "automatically"? Hey, he didn't know there were oil > stations that provide such facilities and he also thought that being year > 2011 the cars do not need fuel (nor any other power source) to be started They know that the computer needs electricity and that the car needs petrol. I doubt that most people know more than that. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201101051550.47702.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: making a pdf file smaller the debian way....
On Sun, Jan 02, 2011 at 09:56:36AM -0600, John Hasler wrote: > What you have is some sort of image format inside a PDF "container". It > is probably already compressed, which is why Zip had little effect on > it. You need to extract the image, use image software to shrink it, and > put it back in a PDF container. I vaguely remember it is likely to be jpeg in PDF container". Osamu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110105153000.gb2...@debian.org
Sound recording in Debian Lenny
I am after something from never-never land, but I live in hopes. I need a sound recorder, and would prefer that it be in Debian Lenny, but a dual-boot would be possible. It must fulfil the following criteria: 1) Be managed by someone who knows a little bit about Linux, less about Debian and absolutely zilch about sound recording and balancing etc. 2) Ideally, usable by someone who knows even less about computers and sound recording, but can use this package without too active a helping hand. Last time my husband needed to record a book, I Installed Jaunty on a computer that I had to dedicate to it, used gnome-sound-recorder and held his hand constantly. I have searched online both in the list of Debian packages and via Google, and have used aptitude search and, for luck, aptitude show. Krec, Audacity etc. are non-starters because they assume that you would know how to use at least a simple mixer. I don't. I simply couldn't work out how to work them, partly because I did not even know the vocabulary. Debian Lenny is what my husband has currently on his computer. He doesn't like change. He is using KDE 3. I am about to set up Squeeze with Trinity to see whether I think that it has come of age. But meanwhile, Lenny it has to be. Thanks for any input. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201101051544.20865.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: sleeping the system vs hibernate or suspend
On Wed, 05 Jan 2011 10:01:47 -0500, Toan Pham wrote: > camaleon, > > > FYI, that is a recommended setting. What are your sources? :-) Last time I checked, in order to hibernate the computer you needed at least the same amount of ram your computer had but I know nothing about that x2 rule suggestion nor any other requirements on the /swap partition. > Optimal values depends on multiple > factors such as: > > 1. total amount of physical ram, > 2. percentage of actual utilized ram, > 3. average cached size to swap partition etc. I can understand there could be a margin for security (let's say, provide an additional ~1 GiB plus the ram) but "twice" the ram sounds a bit unrealistic. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.01.05.15.39...@gmail.com
USB keyboard compatibility with Debian
I'm thinking of getting a USB keyboard to use with my laptop. Is there anything I should know about compatibility issues? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktim3gsyp2kmfvaax7h5a6==5tqnkxjggbely-...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Can Debian Backup ntfs File System?
On Wed, 05 Jan 2011 14:37:25 +, Lisi wrote: > On Wednesday 05 January 2011 14:26:32 Camaleón wrote: >> So, no... people who pretend to give "value" to his data and has not >> performed a single backup copy of his files in years, I just simply >> say, "heck, no, those files weren't that important". > > You aren't making enough allowance for the fact that the majority of > users think that computers are magic devices that never fail. What would you think if a person tells you that he thought his car was going to be fed "automatically"? Hey, he didn't know there were oil stations that provide such facilities and he also thought that being year 2011 the cars do not need fuel (nor any other power source) to be started >>:-) Computers aren't magic devices (nor cars) and users have to be very aware of this. So, no... I make no concessions here :-) And giving credit to that "magicallities" is a big error which usually has bad consequences for the user (like the example you provided). Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.01.05.15.15...@gmail.com
Re: Can Debian Backup ntfs File System?
On Qua, 05 Jan 2011, Lisi wrote: On Wednesday 05 January 2011 14:26:32 Camaleón wrote: So, no... people who pretend to give "value" to his data and has not performed a single backup copy of his files in years, I just simply say, "heck, no, those files weren't that important". You aren't making enough allowance for the fact that the majority of users think that computers are magic devices that never fail. They also think that when they fail the support person can always easily and successfully recover everything. -- I poured spot remover on my dog. Now he's gone. -- Steven Wright Eduardo M KALINOWSKI edua...@kalinowski.com.br -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110105131136.800328356wdor...@mail.kalinowski.com.br
Re: sleeping the system vs hibernate or suspend
camaleon, FYI, that is a recommended setting. Optimal values depends on multiple factors such as: 1. total amount of physical ram, 2. percentage of actual utilized ram, 3. average cached size to swap partition etc. -toan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktimcobrg34-8h8lpz-1ryo5esh8=8ek9_uyr5...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Can Debian Backup ntfs File System?
On Wednesday 05 January 2011 14:26:32 Camaleón wrote: > So, no... people who pretend to give "value" to his data and has not > performed a single backup copy of his files in years, I just simply say, > "heck, no, those files weren't that important". You aren't making enough allowance for the fact that the majority of users think that computers are magic devices that never fail. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201101051437.25448.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Can Debian Backup ntfs File System?
On Wednesday 05 January 2011 12:03:59 Camaleón wrote: > At least you should have learned one lesson: _never trust_ what your > users say and tell them to _prove_ their wording with facts (that is, by > checking with her that the data was properly backed up and can be > restored from the aforementioned "unexistent" copy) >;-) I did look at the pen drive to make sure that the copies were there and retrievable. But I didn't know enough about her data to know that the most recent 'photos were missing. It is not certain that they could have been rescued at that point even if I had known! If it weren't for the fact that she is going around telling very hurtful untruths about me, I would be the gainer. She was hard work, demanding and not very profitable! But sometimes they _know_ that they haven't got copies, but are unwilling to have them. It means buying something to put them on. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201101051428.47315.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Can Debian Backup ntfs File System?
On Wed, 05 Jan 2011 14:49:43 +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote: > On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 13:09, Camaleón wrote: >> Last backup was from a year ago, that should give you some hints about >> how valuable is data for the user. >> >> > That is a hint about whether the computer is a tool or a lifestyle for > the user, it has nothing to do with the value of the data. I only wish > that the backup-valuable correlation were true! Well, it is. Is the user who has to value his/her work (something that I find important can have zero value your you, for instance). And common sense has to be applied for all the aspects in the life, not just "computers". Let me use an example to illustrate this. Imagine there is an elderly and experienced writer that is still using his old and trustworthy Olivetti typing machine for his work. He has to publish a new book before the end of this year and he starts by making some drafts and manual annotations about the book's main story. Then, he starts typing the firsts chapters of the book with his Olivetti, and reaches 100 pages... At this point, the writer can: a) Do nothing and wait for the best, he is a very organized person and thinks nothing can happen to the hundred pages he already wrote. b) Go to the store and make a couple of photocopies, just in case. Well, this is the same diatribe that every computer user has to face for his data but still, this has nothing to do with the user's computer abilities (there are many easy -and automated- ways for dealing with this) but his interest. The same happens with the elderly writer: there is no need to be the smartest people in the world nor being a literate in any specific field to care about your work (and your time) and be careful enough to prevent any disaster. So, no... people who pretend to give "value" to his data and has not performed a single backup copy of his files in years, I just simply say, "heck, no, those files weren't that important". >> NTFS is quite robust. In fact, it survives better to unforeseen >> shutdowns than other linux filesystems. And again, if you are concerned >> about the "fragile" status of the file system, run the diagnosis tools >> in test mode. >> >> > Against power outages, yes, NTFS is very robust. But there are other > ways to screw it up easily, one of which is simply _writing_ to it with > an immature driver. I understand that today's Linux drivers are better > in this regard, but just a few years ago one would not want to write > often to an NTFS partition without booting it into Windows occasionally > for some error checking. The drivers are reverse engineered and are not > 100% reliable, or at least until recently they weren't. Yes, NTFS under linux (ntfs-3g) is not my favourite way for working with NTFS volumes. I always let windows itself to manage and perform the required diagnostic operations when I have to handle this file system. > By the way, NTFS does not support some features of Linux filesystems, > and will fail silently while loosing data. Writing a filename with a > colon is one good example of how to get bitten by this. Permissions are > sometimes problematic as well. Well, I was not meant to say NTFS is the best file system in the world :-), just is not that fragile as people tends to think or as FAT was. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.01.05.14.26...@gmail.com
Re: repos for squeeze as a base install.
> So, the only repo I need now is testing, and, may backports for squeeze > - is it correct? You should comment out the backports repo until squeeze gets stable, AFAIK backports and volatile are only available for the current stable version of Debian. Regards Simon
Re: google's ads
Simon writes: > Assuming you are using firefox/iceweasel/chrome you can use adblock > plus with EasyList filters... Or you can use Privoxy with any browser at all. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87sjx78n4s@thumper.dhh.gt.org
Re: google's ads
2011/1/5 Dotan Cohen : > On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 15:34, Simon Hollenbach > wrote: >> Does IE support addons by now? im not talking about toolbars... >> > > Does IE run on Debian by now?!? > Of course - for what other reason do you think we have qemu? after all we don't have nice web browser . . . darkestkhan -- jid: darkestk...@gmail.com May The Source be with You. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktinzd6rmjyhtbdn0zh+crqy9mt8mruclzu6wa...@mail.gmail.com
Re: google's ads
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 15:34, Simon Hollenbach wrote: > Does IE support addons by now? im not talking about toolbars... > Does IE run on Debian by now?!? On the subject of ads, in addition to Adblock that was suggested, I might add a good hosts file and Flashblock. -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktikz7n51jt2rhlsy+bk9xbgq6qjapupvd_=dk...@mail.gmail.com
Re: google's ads
> how do i get rid of google's by me unwanted extra's: ads Assuming you are using firefox/iceweasel/chrome you can use adblock plus with EasyList filters, there may be additonal filters available for your region, e.g. EasyList Germany. I dont know if this addon is available for Opera/IE. Does IE support addons by now? im not talking about toolbars... Regards Simon
Re: google's ads
On Wed, 05 Jan 2011 13:40:22 +0100, steef wrote: > how do i get rid of google's by me unwanted extra's: ads What browser are you using? There are tons of add-ons for Firefox/Iceweael aimed to removing/blocking all kind of ads/javascript/multimedia... Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.01.05.13.08...@gmail.com
google's ads
dear list, how do i get rid of google's by me unwanted extra's: ads reg., steef -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d2466b6.8050...@home.nl
Re: why is this html looks like this?
You posted the same link twice, and the .png file has a big black block over most of it on my system (I think I may have an X-related video glitch on my box), so I can't see what it's supposed to be. - I got the black box too, on my NON X related Blackberry, Though phone browsers aren't the greatest and I initially assumed it was phone browser... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1558283513-1294232077-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-8406940...@bda029.bisx.prod.on.blackberry
Re: unattended upgrades
On Tue, 04 Jan 2011 22:51:51 +0100, Simon Hollenbach wrote: >> > Thanks for replying, Cameleon, but as I said, apt-get install just >> > did it effortlessly. No interaction required. >> >> No prompts asking you about when using "apt-get upgrade"? Weird, >> because that was what the log said and the package gets blacklisted >> because of that :-? >> > I just wanna say that I experienced the same behaviour but as it was my > desktop I quickly said:'I really want those installed' and then it > worked without user interaction, exactly as described right here. Please > post a link to the filed bug report. I cannot open a bug report because I don' have the program installed, it's you (the ones experiencing the problem) who should do it >:-) If my findings are correct, the problem is in the script itself and the package should be updated... but being for lenny (stable), I'm not sure if that is possible. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.01.05.12.50...@gmail.com
Re: Can Debian Backup ntfs File System?
No, she didn't. She thought that because she had used the program Picasa, then Picasa would magically produce her 'photos. She did not have them online. There was only the one copy on her computer. She just usually viewed them with Picasa. I did paid support. I had to support no matter how daft the client insisted on being. And no, she didn't learn. She just sacked me!! I had explained in words of one syllable till I was blue in the face, and her niece bought her a pen drive and backed all the then current pictures up. She also explained in words of one syllable. That is why my client thought that she had copies of everything. "My niece did it for me." She hadn't understood that a backup cannot magically add other things to itself without even being plugged into the computer. Lisi - I'll never understand how people can... A) be so computer illiterate, B) Not care, C) Blame or argue with the person who ACTUALLY knows something about it... I have had clients who are paying me to fix it for them and argue all the way about it. Like if you knew better you prolly wouldn't be in given situation or be paying me to fix it... [/rant] TeddyB
