Re: route table behind router
On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 12:45:39PM +0100, Pascal Hambourg wrote: > > At this point, I have two ideas : either a problem with TCP connections > or specifically with HTTP connections. I would first try to connect to > other TCP-based services such as SMTP, POP3, FTP... If it fails too, > then the problem is with TCP, likely with some TCP option not supported > by the router or the ISP. The usual suspects are window scaling, > timestamps, ECN, SACK, which can be enabled or disabled via sysctl > variables in /proc/sys/net/ipv4/. Try to enable and disable each of them > and see what happens. Blessings upon your house. root@/deb40a:~> echo 0 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_ecn now fetchmail works and I can get urls in firefox Thank you very much, Mike PS: I've the biggest grin on my face. :) -- Satisfied user of Linux since 1997. O< ascii ribbon campaign - stop html mail - www.asciiribbon.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110213070459.GA4674@playground
checking for changes in file size/permissions since installation?
Does apt/dpkg keep track of permissions and file sizes of the files which belong to a package? If so, how can this information be retrieved so as to compare to existing files on the file system? thanks! -lev -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1e383eb5-5595-49b4-8aae-c2cb56d4c...@sonous.com
Re: Change KDE menu Debian 6
Mark Panen writes: > Hi > > Is it possible to change the KDE 4.4.5 menu at the bottom left to the > old KDE 3.5.10 look? Yes, just go right click on the menu button, and select 'Switch to Classic Menu Style'. You can switch back the same way, if you ever want to. -- Carl Johnsonca...@peak.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87oc6gee4p.fsf@oak.localnet
Re: apt-get upgrade message in sid
In <8roudpfga...@mid.individual.net>, Charles Kroeger wrote: >apt (0.8.11) unstable; urgency=low > > * apt-get install pkg/experimental will now not only switch the >candidate of package pkg to the version from the release >experimental but also of all dependencies of pkg if the current >candidate can't satisfy a versioned dependency. > > -- David Kalnischkies Fri, 03 Dec 2010 > 14:09:12 +0100 > >After hitting the 'q' key this message clears and the the packages >unpack and setup. > >What is David Kalnischkies telling me here? apt-listchanges is displaying the new part of the debian/changelog. The change introduced basically makes the package/archive install specification less brain damaged, so that it does the right thing in more cases. Previously, if foo/experimental Depends on bar (> some_ver) and bar/unstable was < some_ver but bar/experimental was > some_ver apt-get would propose a not-so-good solution. Now, it will propose to install foo/experimental and bar/experimental. (I think before it might have prompted the user, or failed to install foo. I think is had even worse behavior on a Recommends relationship, like installing foo/experimental and bar/unstable even though foo/experimental can't use bar/unstable.) I rarely use apt-get to install packages though, so I'm not too familiar with how it's resolver behaves in situations like this. I use aptitude, which can certainly propose some stupid stuff initially, but provides an interactive resolver that is really easy for me to find the solution that makes sense. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. b...@iguanasuicide.net ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.net/\_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
apt-get upgrade message in sid
I've been avoiding the removal of my nvidia glx driver with the workaround of doing apt-get upgrades instead of dist-upgrades. my sources /etc/apt/sources.list include experimental along with sid contrib and non-free sources When I do the command: apt-get upgrade, after the packages are retrieved I get the following message: apt (0.8.11) unstable; urgency=low * apt-get install pkg/experimental will now not only switch the candidate of package pkg to the version from the release experimental but also of all dependencies of pkg if the current candidate can't satisfy a versioned dependency. -- David Kalnischkies Fri, 03 Dec 2010 14:09:12 +0100 After hitting the 'q' key this message clears and the the packages unpack and setup. What is David Kalnischkies telling me here? Thanks, CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/8roudpfga...@mid.individual.net
Re: Change KDE menu Debian 6
Yes, go to the panel, right click, panel options, add widgets, application launcher menu. It's not exactly the same, but close-ish. On Feb 12, 2011 9:36 PM, "Mark Panen" wrote:
Change KDE menu Debian 6
Hi Is it possible to change the KDE 4.4.5 menu at the bottom left to the old KDE 3.5.10 look? Mark -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/AANLkTi=1wknekcmazyacs02rp1rsdn1zkvo9qwbqn...@mail.gmail.com
Re: [OT] E-mail formatting
On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 14:22, Doug wrote: > On 02/12/2011 03:38 PM, Kelly Clowers wrote: >> >> On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 05:16, Brad Rogers wrote: >>> >>> On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 12:51:02 + (UTC) >>> Camaleón wrote: >>> >>> Hello Camaleón, >>> I would try it if I can but I am not receiving e-mails from this list to my Gmail account. Does anyone know how to request to this mailing list server a message? >>> >>> It won't help; Google won't echo your mails back to you when you post >>> to a mailing list. They appear in the "All Mail" folder, but never in >>> the inbox. Google call it a feature. Nigh on everyone else calls it a >>> bug. Google will not alter this behaviour. >>> >>> For that reason (amongst others) it is as well to remember that gmail != >>> email. >> >> Why would want a list email in your inbox anyway? >> Folders and rules exist for a reason. >> >> Cheers, >> Kelly Clowers >> >> > Well, we've gone around and around with this before, but the obvious reason > is so that you know the mail actually _made it_ to the list. If i really want to know that badly, I'll go look it up on gmane or something. > I don't know why > anyone would use GMail when you can use a more friendly one like > Thunderbird. > Or KMail, if you run a KDE system. HA! Despite problems like lack Reply to List, rule creation being much more annoying than it needs to be, etc, I long for a local app that is even close to as nice as GMail. Maybe NotMuch, once it matures... Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/AANLkTinNsVJb-=r2o3b_jmbhozgcmczgjs-w4uk0f...@mail.gmail.com
Lenny-to-Squeeze: missing mounts, and no net.
Hi List. In the midst of upgrading Lenny to Squeeze - specifically, upon reboot after installing the new kernel and udev - I find that: 1) My external hard drive, whose partitions Lenny had always happily mounted with fstab lines like "/dev/sdc1 /mnt/u/0 auto rw,user,noauto 0 0", gets no mounts at all. FYI: the drive isn't completely ignored, as a kern.log line lists all its partitions; and I am able to mount each manually using the old syntax. Does Squeeze require upgraded fstab-entry parameters (in addition to the new device specification)? Or -- what else should I be asking? 2) There is no net connection. (So I'm writing this from another computer.) And dmesg.0 now mentions "Tigon3". Does this mean that I need to append "contrib non-free" after "main" in /etc/sources.list, and then re-execute "apt-get upgrade"? And then re-install both the new kernel and udev? Thanks in advance for your time! Pete -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/9262893d948feda8e81ef586d322c860.squir...@www.eskimo.com
Re: rtorrent queue
I use one called rtorrentquemanager.py I am running it by 'nohup ./rtorrentquemanager.py &' works pretty well for me. Adrian On 12 February 2011 22:20, Nikolas Slivka wrote: > Hello! > > rTorrent was possible (possibly with external script) configure uTorrent-like > queue? As an example: 10 pieces torrents put it, start the first, then after > it is finished downloading, start the next, and so the line. > I look forward to possible solutions. > > Thank you! > > Nikolas Slivka > > --- > () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail > /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments > > > > > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: http://lists.debian.org/537502.66302...@web120603.mail.ne1.yahoo.com > > -- 24x7x365 != 24x7x52 Stupid or bad maths? hm. I've lost a machine.. literally _lost_. it responds to ping, it works completely, I just can't figure out where in my apartment it is. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktikq4kbxkfvws7oy3iauebloude00f1yjhkzd...@mail.gmail.com
Buffers VS Page Cache
Good day. I'm trying to understand difference between Buffers and Page Cache in Linux, but found almost no documentation. As far as I understand buffers and Page Cache serves same purpose: they save recent reed/written pages and allow to reduce amount of actual IO. So, the questions: 1) What difference between buffers and page cache? 2) What data goes to Cache? 3) What data goes to Cache? 4) Why this separation was needed? Thanks. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d573800.4070...@gmail.com
Re: Hardware needed for home network
On Sb, 12 feb 11, 18:18:24, Tixy wrote: > > Would another option not be to just get a switch and not bother with a > second Ethernet card in the server? This is the setup I run, i.e. > > Modem <-> ++ > Firewall/Server <---> | Switch | > Other system(s) <---> ++ Yes, but only if the modem is also a gateway (NAT + DHCP). Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: bad surprise using ghostview (gv)
Roger Leigh wrote: On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 12:28:22AM +0100, Bernard wrote: Roger Leigh wrote: On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 09:32:42AM -0500, Gilbert Sullivan wrote: On 02/12/2011 08:59 AM, Bernard wrote: ...snip... If, discarding the use of 'gv', I just print the ps file directly as follows: lpr -PDeskJet-1120C myfile.ps I get exactly the same printing result (poor quality, black and white) ...snip... If I'm understanding correctly what you've written, it seems to me that your problem may not be ghostview. I think you might want to try specifying different drivers for your printer to see if others might work better. You might also want to provide a bit of information about your system. I run Debian testing on all of my systems, and I recently had to switch from hpijs drivers to CUPS+Gutenprint on all of my HP LaserJet printers for a similar problem. (They weren't dithering or shading properly, but simly printing black & white.) Note that while Gutenprint has excellent support for Epson, Canon and other colour inkjects, PCL-based HP deskjets are (AFAICT) only supported in black and white. Good for monochrome lasers where the fine dithering can greatly improve quality, but not so good for inkjets, so if this is the case, you might wasnt to look at hplip instead. But then I fail to understand: as explained in my original post, CUPS+GUTENPRINT does work with my DeskJet-1120C, it provides good quality color printing from OpenOffice as well as from the GIMP, only from GhostView does it print B/W with low quality Hmm, I do see that a number of HP Colour Deskjets are now listed, so you may well be correct. Historically, this was a problem; maybe that's fixed or partially fixed now. Now ? But, as explained in my original post, the same CUPS config did allow good quality color printing of ps files using 'gv' (GhostView), as well as OpenOffice and the GIMP, before I replace Debian Sarge by Lenny, that is, in the date range 2006-2009. gv is just using lpr/lp to print. So, if for example you print the file directly with "lpr -P printer $file.ps", is it still monochrome? Yes it is. This will eliminate gs, in case it's causing the problem. When you print from the GIMP, are you using the regular Print dialogue, or are you using the "Print with Gutenprint" dialogue (gimp-gutenprint)? With the GIMP, I am using the regular print dialogue... and it prints nicely with colors. It still does, for I have carried some more tests, so as to eliminate problems that could have arisen since. The former prints via the normal printing system (as if you did it with lpr), and sends either the pixmap or the pixmap embedded in PostScript to the print queue. The Gutenprint dialogue does all the rendering inside GIMP and sends raw printer commands to the queue (lpr -o raw). If the printer is misconfigured in CUPS, that could explain why it works from the GIMP. It doesn't explain OpenOffice though. Please see - in my more recent post - the results of my tests with CUPS. The test page from CUPS prints nicely with due colors. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d572c8f.20...@teaser.fr
Re: system beep after upgrade to squeeze
On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 6:34 PM, Curt Howland wrote: > > The only answer I could find was to put this line into my > .bash_profile and .bashrc files: > > setterm -blength 0 > > That "solved" the problem without actually solving anything. How the > latest kernels get around not even having the hardware pcspkr module > loaded baffles me. AFAIK, with "install pcspkr /bin/true" in "/etc/modprobe.d/". -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/AANLkTik-KKiN=y+bwiqs64rfxml4bmmaft4htgdop...@mail.gmail.com
Re: grub 2 problems ??
On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 6:46 PM, steef wrote: > Tom H schreef: >> On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 10:26 AM, steef wrote: >>> >>> for years (from potato/woody on) i have mounted 3 hd' s in my machine >>> (independently installed from each other with debian, somtimes slackware >>> and/or gentoo) from one specific hd with/after the command #mkdir >>> /mnt/sdx, >>> mnt/sdy etc. and in fstab /dev/sdx /mnt/sdx ext3 user 0 0&& (to >>> keep >>> it simple). on each hd i had a bootloader (lilo and later grub) >>> installed. >>> >>> with grub2 as bootloader under squeeze i cannot mount other hd's anymore >>> when independently on the *other* hd' s a bootloader (grub2) in the mbr >>> is >>> installed. without installing grub2 in the mbr of a sata-hd the hd on >>> which >>> i am mounting *does* recognize the other hd *with the exception of (old) >>> ata >>> hd's. >>> >>> my question: what do i miss if anything? or is this normal for the new >>> grub? >>> is there anything to do about this? has this got to do with UUID-numbers? >> >> I assume that by "mount" you mean "boot from". >> >> What's the output of "os-prober"? > > steef@squeeze:~$ sudo os-prober > [sudo] password for steef: > Sorry, try again. > [sudo] password for steef: > /dev/sdb1:Debian GNU/Linux (6.0):Debian:linux > /dev/sdc1:Debian GNU/Linux (6.0):Debian1:linux > steef@squeeze:~$ > > please read my answer to camaleón in this thread. thank you for your > response, > > that is exactly my problem. what i do know is the difference (after > some work) with the early days of grub. i install in one machine on > separate hd's p.e. debian, gentoo and slackware, with on each hd grub > installed in the mbr. at each install i loosened the cables of the > other two hd's. each installation is so completely independent of each > other. in the old days i could with simple modifications in /etc/fstab > and /mnt make the installation on /dev/hdax *see* the file systems on > the other hd's : /dev/hdy and /dev/hdz. > > with sata ide' s this was possible too on my (two) machines (included > windows xp that i somatimes *must* use) up till now. > > my newest machine only has sata connections. when i install on the > three sata hd's in this machine completely independent of each other > with loosened cables of the *other* two disks; including grub2 placing > the bootloader in the mbr of each disk independently of each other; > and i start up with again fastened cables; my /dev/sda1 does *not* > recognize /dev/sdb1 etc. > > when i install on the same way on the three disks (a lot of work last > two nights) the same os' s on these disks; the debian (squeeze) os > *can* see the filesystems on the other two hd's *with* grub2 installed > but *without* putting the bootloader in the mbr of these two disks. > older ata-hd's are not recognized/seen at all anymore. I can't say that I really understand what you're trying to accomplish. Given the output of "os-prober", grub2 on your sda squeeze install is recognizing your squeeze installs on sdb and sdc when sda, sdb, sdc are connected and grub2'll populate grub.cfg with entries for all three installs to allow you to boot from any one of them when all disks are connected. If you want to be able to boot with sda disconnected, you'll have to install grub2 into the MBRs of the other two disks and populate grub.cfg in both those installs. If you want to add another (or other) disk(s) to fstab, run "blkid" and add lines for the relevant partition(s) with the corresponding UUID(s). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/AANLkTi=ggqed86dz-eg5oe_o0h6wusfxp9w2bezpb...@mail.gmail.com
Re: bad surprise using ghostview (gv)
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 12:28:22AM +0100, Bernard wrote: > Roger Leigh wrote: > >On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 09:32:42AM -0500, Gilbert Sullivan wrote: > >>On 02/12/2011 08:59 AM, Bernard wrote: > >> > >>...snip... > >>>If, discarding the use of 'gv', I just print the ps file directly as > >>>follows: > >>> > >>>lpr -PDeskJet-1120C myfile.ps > >>> > >>>I get exactly the same printing result (poor quality, black and white) > >>...snip... > >> > >>If I'm understanding correctly what you've written, it seems to me > >>that your problem may not be ghostview. I think you might want to > >>try specifying different drivers for your printer to see if others > >>might work better. > >> > >>You might also want to provide a bit of information about your system. > >> > >>I run Debian testing on all of my systems, and I recently had to > >>switch from hpijs drivers to CUPS+Gutenprint on all of my HP > >>LaserJet printers for a similar problem. (They weren't dithering or > >>shading properly, but simly printing black & white.) > > > >Note that while Gutenprint has excellent support for Epson, Canon > >and other colour inkjects, PCL-based HP deskjets are (AFAICT) only > >supported in black and white. Good for monochrome lasers where > >the fine dithering can greatly improve quality, but not so good for > >inkjets, so if this is the case, you might wasnt to look at hplip > >instead. > But then I fail to understand: as explained in my original post, > CUPS+GUTENPRINT does work with my DeskJet-1120C, it provides good > quality color printing from OpenOffice as well as from the GIMP, > only from GhostView does it print B/W with low quality Hmm, I do see that a number of HP Colour Deskjets are now listed, so you may well be correct. Historically, this was a problem; maybe that's fixed or partially fixed now. gv is just using lpr/lp to print. So, if for example you print the file directly with "lpr -P printer $file.ps", is it still monochrome? This will eliminate gs, in case it's causing the problem. When you print from the GIMP, are you using the regular Print dialogue, or are you using the "Print with Gutenprint" dialogue (gimp-gutenprint)? The former prints via the normal printing system (as if you did it with lpr), and sends either the pixmap or the pixmap embedded in PostScript to the print queue. The Gutenprint dialogue does all the rendering inside GIMP and sends raw printer commands to the queue (lpr -o raw). If the printer is misconfigured in CUPS, that could explain why it works from the GIMP. It doesn't explain OpenOffice though. Regards, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linux http://people.debian.org/~rleigh/ `. `' Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gutenprint.sourceforge.net/ `-GPG Public Key: 0x25BFB848 Please GPG sign your mail. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: The PREROUTING or the INPUT (iptables)
Thanks Steven for the reply. On Sun, 13 Feb 2011, Steven wrote: Hi On Sat, 2011-02-12 at 22:39 +, Bhasker C V wrote: Hi all, I am asking 2 questions in this and apologies if this is a bit too much in a single mail. Q1) I came to understand that the first rule to take the hit is the PREROUTING nat table (after the mangle). So in case I want to do a DNAT of input packets to one of the interfaces in another machine on the same network as the router, then, I can apply a DNAT rule in the PREROUTING. But if I want to also select that the packet must be DNAT'ed only if the input is from a specific ip address, then applying the DROP rule for 'anything other-than' type of packets is not effective in the INPUT chain since the packet traverses the routing decision and goes into the FORWARD chain and goes outgress... So out of many experts here, I just wanted to take an advice on where to keep the DROP/REJECT firewall rules ? Is it in the PREROUGING or the INPUT? If I keep it at INPUT then the packets which needs to be DNAT'ed will traverse bypassing the INPUT rule. What I do is use the PREROUTING table to set up the general forwarding, and use the FORWARDING and INPUT tables to actually allow or block traffic. A rule for PREROUTING could be this: iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i $EXTIF -p tcp -d $EXTIP -m multiport --destination-port 20,21,22,80 -j DNAT --to-destination $WEBSERVER So if I am blocking an IP from entering, I have to do it both in the input chain and also in the FORWARDING chain so that wherever it gets hit, it will be dropped. Thanks I will do the same In this case forwarding ftp, ssh and http ports. The forwarding and input tables should be used to block unwanted traffic (or allow wanted traffic). iptables -A FORWARD -i $EXTIF -o $INTIF -j ACCEPT allows everything from outside to be forwarded to the internal lan in this case. An advice is to limit the rules to the smallest possible match, not allowing anything to slip by that was unintended. Yes I usually allow the needed IPs and block all others in a plain DROP rule. Thanks again. also, Q2) I was guessing from the man pages of iptables that I can give multiple source ip addresses in a single stretch by seperating them with a ',' . I couldnt apparently do it, and below is the command line I used. Could someone point me on what is the mistake I am doing please ? iptables -A INPUT ! -s 1.1.1.1,1.1.1.2 -j ACCEPT This command is trying to resolve 1.1.1.1,1.1.1.2 ignoring the ',' in the ip addresses taking this as a complete name. Perhaps you are looking for the iprange module? iptables -m iprange --src-range 192.168.1.1-192.168.1.254 -j ACCEPT That allows you to specify a range of ip's. Using the -s argument for source ip's, you can only give a single address, however, it is possible to define a complete subnet like this: iptables -s 192.168.1.0/24 -j ACCEPT In other cases you'd need 2 separate rules. --- root@mac1:/# iptables -A INPUT ! -s 1.1.1.1,1.1.1.2 -j ACCEPT iptables v1.4.2: host/network `1.1.1.1,1.1.1.2' not found Try `iptables -h' or 'iptables --help' for more information. --- Kind regards, Steven -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1297554772.6502.21.ca...@pc-steven.lan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/alpine.deb.1.10.1102130006460.12...@server.uk.unixindia.com
Re: The PREROUTING or the INPUT (iptables)
Hi On Sat, 2011-02-12 at 22:39 +, Bhasker C V wrote: > Hi all, > > I am asking 2 questions in this and apologies if this is a bit too much > in a single mail. > > Q1) > I came to understand that the first rule to take the hit is the > PREROUTING nat table (after the mangle). So in case I want to do a DNAT of > input packets to one of the interfaces in another machine on the same > network as the router, then, I can apply a DNAT rule in the PREROUTING. > But if I want to also select that the packet must be DNAT'ed only if > the input is from a specific ip address, then applying the DROP rule for > 'anything other-than' type of packets is not effective in the INPUT chain > since the packet traverses the routing decision and goes into the FORWARD > chain and goes outgress... > > So out of many experts here, I just wanted to take an advice on where to > keep the DROP/REJECT firewall rules ? Is it in the PREROUGING or the > INPUT? If I keep it at INPUT then the packets which needs to be DNAT'ed > will traverse bypassing the INPUT rule. What I do is use the PREROUTING table to set up the general forwarding, and use the FORWARDING and INPUT tables to actually allow or block traffic. A rule for PREROUTING could be this: iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i $EXTIF -p tcp -d $EXTIP -m multiport --destination-port 20,21,22,80 -j DNAT --to-destination $WEBSERVER In this case forwarding ftp, ssh and http ports. The forwarding and input tables should be used to block unwanted traffic (or allow wanted traffic). iptables -A FORWARD -i $EXTIF -o $INTIF -j ACCEPT allows everything from outside to be forwarded to the internal lan in this case. An advice is to limit the rules to the smallest possible match, not allowing anything to slip by that was unintended. > > also, > > Q2) > I was guessing from the man pages of iptables that I can give multiple > source ip addresses in a single stretch by seperating them with a ',' . I > couldnt apparently do it, and below is the command line I used. Could > someone point me on what is the mistake I am doing please ? > > iptables -A INPUT ! -s 1.1.1.1,1.1.1.2 -j ACCEPT > > This command is trying to resolve 1.1.1.1,1.1.1.2 ignoring the ',' in the > ip addresses taking this as a complete name. Perhaps you are looking for the iprange module? iptables -m iprange --src-range 192.168.1.1-192.168.1.254 -j ACCEPT That allows you to specify a range of ip's. Using the -s argument for source ip's, you can only give a single address, however, it is possible to define a complete subnet like this: iptables -s 192.168.1.0/24 -j ACCEPT In other cases you'd need 2 separate rules. > > --- > root@mac1:/# iptables -A INPUT ! -s 1.1.1.1,1.1.1.2 -j ACCEPT > iptables v1.4.2: host/network `1.1.1.1,1.1.1.2' not found > Try `iptables -h' or 'iptables --help' for more information. > --- > > Kind regards, Steven -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1297554772.6502.21.ca...@pc-steven.lan
Re: Apt Crippled
On Sat 12 Feb 2011 at 22:54:16 +0200, David Baron wrote: > Did that. It stumbles at the same point: Could be a mirror problem. Try another. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110212233437.GB32679@desktop
Re: system beep after upgrade to squeeze
The only answer I could find was to put this line into my .bash_profile and .bashrc files: setterm -blength 0 That "solved" the problem without actually solving anything. How the latest kernels get around not even having the hardware pcspkr module loaded baffles me. Easy enough to fix on a tower, just pull the jumper off the mobo. But with a laptop, that's not possible. Curt- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktinmntwy+grcgnasvacgyuaugvrj6gqhyfsxs...@mail.gmail.com
Re: grub 2 problems ??
Tom H schreef: On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 10:26 AM, steef wrote: for years (from potato/woody on) i have mounted 3 hd' s in my machine (independently installed from each other with debian, somtimes slackware and/or gentoo) from one specific hd with/after the command #mkdir /mnt/sdx, mnt/sdy etc. and in fstab /dev/sdx /mnt/sdx ext3 user 0 0&& (to keep it simple). on each hd i had a bootloader (lilo and later grub) installed. with grub2 as bootloader under squeeze i cannot mount other hd's anymore when independently on the *other* hd' s a bootloader (grub2) in the mbr is installed. without installing grub2 in the mbr of a sata-hd the hd on which i am mounting *does* recognize the other hd *with the exception of (old) ata hd's. my question: what do i miss if anything? or is this normal for the new grub? is there anything to do about this? has this got to do with UUID-numbers? I assume that by "mount" you mean "boot from". What's the output of "os-prober"? steef@squeeze:~$ sudo os-prober [sudo] password for steef: Sorry, try again. [sudo] password for steef: /dev/sdb1:Debian GNU/Linux (6.0):Debian:linux /dev/sdc1:Debian GNU/Linux (6.0):Debian1:linux steef@squeeze:~$ please read my answer to camaleón in this thread. thank you for your response, reg., steef -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d571bc8.6000...@home.nl
Re: grub 2 problems ??
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. schreef: In<4d56a6be.9070...@home.nl>, steef wrote: with grub2 as bootloader under squeeze i cannot mount other hd's anymore when independently on the *other* hd' s a bootloader (grub2) in the mbr is installed. without installing grub2 in the mbr of a sata-hd the hd on which i am mounting *does* recognize the other hd *with the exception of (old) ata hd's. GRUB (both 1 and 2) care very little about what your OS calls disks. They have their own naming scheme that they use to locate files and/or block lists. They will pass arbitrary strings set by you to your kernel so that it can find a root device or other devices. When installing the boot sector, GRUB cares a little bit, since it has to use OS routines to access the disk, but that's about it. that is right The Linux kernel in Squeeze renames a lot of devices, particularly block devices, so names like /dev/sdb and /dev/hdc shouldn't be used anymore. These names are based on the order the kernel discovers the device and what subsystem is used to handle it. Disk discovery used to be a serial, deterministic, synchronous process; it is now a parallel, non-deterministic, asynchronous process. This means these device names might change from boot to boot, even if the hardware layout does not change. Also, PATA devices used be to handled by the IDE subsystem and assigned names under /dev/hd*; now, they are handled by the SCSI/SATA subsystem and assigned names used /dev/sd*. last points are very interesting: read about that. my question: what do i miss if anything? or is this normal for the new grub? is there anything to do about this? has this got to do with UUID-numbers? Read the Squeeze release notes. There are instructions there for what tasks to perform before upgrade so that your system cleanly reboots. There are also instructions for what you failed to prepare and your system no longer boots after the upgrade. i made clean install(s) of squeeze after having made proper backups. and after this i installed on all disks brandnew os's rag., steef -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d571a88.10...@home.nl
Re: grub 2 problems ??
Tom H schreef: On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 10:26 AM, steef wrote: for years (from potato/woody on) i have mounted 3 hd' s in my machine (independently installed from each other with debian, somtimes slackware and/or gentoo) from one specific hd with/after the command #mkdir /mnt/sdx, mnt/sdy etc. and in fstab /dev/sdx /mnt/sdx ext3 user 0 0&& (to keep it simple). on each hd i had a bootloader (lilo and later grub) installed. with grub2 as bootloader under squeeze i cannot mount other hd's anymore when independently on the *other* hd' s a bootloader (grub2) in the mbr is installed. without installing grub2 in the mbr of a sata-hd the hd on which i am mounting *does* recognize the other hd *with the exception of (old) ata hd's. my question: what do i miss if anything? or is this normal for the new grub? is there anything to do about this? has this got to do with UUID-numbers? I assume that by "mount" you mean "boot from". What's the output of "os-prober"? yes. steef -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d571960.5080...@home.nl
Re: grub 2 problems ??
Camaleón schreef: On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 16:26:54 +0100, steef wrote: (...) my question: what do i miss if anything? or is this normal for the new grub? is there anything to do about this? has this got to do with UUID-numbers? I'm not sure to have understood it at all. "Mounting" is different than "booting", so, what kind of error are you experiencing that involves GRUB2 and mounting? Moreover, how can a bootloader interfere in mounting a partition? :-? Greetings, hi camaleón that is exactly my problem. what i do know is the difference (after some work) with the early days of grub. i install in one machine on separate hd's p.e. debian, gentoo and slackware, with on each hd grub installed in the mbr. at each install i loosened the cables of the other two hd's. each installation is so completely independent of each other. in the old days i could with simple modifications in /etc/fstab and /mnt make the installation on /dev/hdax *see* the file systems on the other hd's : /dev/hdy and /dev/hdz. with sata ide' s this was possible too on my (two) machines (included windows xp that i somatimes *must* use) up till now. my newest machine only has sata connections. when i install on the three sata hd's in this machine completely independent of each other with loosened cables of the *other* two disks; including grub2 placing the bootloader in the mbr of each disk independently of each other; and i start up with again fastened cables; my /dev/sda1 does *not* recognize /dev/sdb1 etc. when i install on the same way on the three disks (a lot of work last two nights) the same os' s on these disks; the debian (squeeze) os *can* see the filesystems on the other two hd's *with* grub2 installed but *without* putting the bootloader in the mbr of these two disks. older ata-hd's are not recognized/seen at all anymore. so: without a solution i have to put lilo after years in working order again. i do not see any progression in this; with due respect to all the work of the developers put in grub2. i am sorry i was not clear enough. i hope i made myself clearer now. k. reg., steef -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d57193a.6090...@home.nl
Re: grub 2 problems ??
steef wrote: > for years (from potato/woody on) i have mounted 3 hd' s in my > machine (independently installed from each other with debian, > somtimes slackware and/or gentoo) from one specific hd with/after > the command #mkdir /mnt/sdx, mnt/sdy etc. and in fstab /dev/sdx > /mnt/sdx ext3 user 0 0 && (to keep it simple). on each hd i had a > bootloader (lilo and later grub) installed. > > with grub2 as bootloader under squeeze i cannot mount other hd's > anymore when independently on the *other* hd' s a bootloader (grub2) > in the mbr is installed. without installing grub2 in the mbr of a > sata-hd the hd on which i am mounting *does* recognize the other hd > *with the exception of (old) ata hd's. > > my question: what do i miss if anything? or is this normal for the > new grub? is there anything to do about this? has this got to do > with UUID-numbers? I imagine the problem you can't directly boot the other system's anymore is that the version differences between the stage1 and stage2 loaders have grown enough that they are no longer compatible. But I don't know and that is just a guess. You could try chainbooting the other bootloader. That is how grub boot's "alien" bootloaders (such as MS) and I assume would work with different versions of grub and lilo too. But I admit I haven't tried it. And in fact I looked but couldn't find an example machine that I could log into that had such a configuration. (Not much MS in use here. :-) But according to the docs and my memory something like this should work: title Some Alien OS Here rootnoverify (hd0,0) makeactive chainloader +1 You would of course change (hd0,0) to match your actual disk and partition location that you want to boot. You should be able to test this by interactively entering those at the grub command line at boot time. That would allow you to perform this test without changing anything. Just stop the boot process at the grub menu and then enter the command line and perform those commands manually following the menu instructions. Since I wasn't able to try the above if anyone has any corrections to the process that would be most welcome. Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: The PREROUTING or the INPUT (iptables)
Hello, Bhasker C V a écrit : > > Q1) > I came to understand that the first rule to take the hit is the > PREROUTING nat table (after the mangle). This is awfully phrased. PREROUTING is a chain, or more exactly are chains which exist in several tables : raw, mangle and nat (in traversal order). Each chain of each table can contain rules. Each table is optional, so the PREROUTING chain of the nat table may be the first, second or third chain hit by an incoming packet. Note that only packets creating a new connection (therefore having the state NEW) hit the chains in the nat table. > So in case I want to do a DNAT of > input packets to one of the interfaces in another machine on the same > network as the router, then, I can apply a DNAT rule in the PREROUTING. Why "so" ? DNAT of incoming packets must be performed in the PREROUTING chain of the nat table, that's all. This is unrelated to the above. > But if I want to also select that the packet must be DNAT'ed only if > the input is from a specific ip address, then applying the DROP rule for > 'anything other-than' type of packets is not effective in the INPUT chain > since the packet traverses the routing decision and goes into the FORWARD > chain and goes outgress... Are you talking about DNAT or filtering ? Deciding what to DNAT or not and deciding what to ACCEPT or DROP/REJECT are two different and independent tasks, performed in different tables and chains. "DNAT only packets from some source address" is different from "ACCEPT only packets from some source address". > So out of many experts here, I just wanted to take an advice on where to > keep the DROP/REJECT firewall rules ? In the INPUT, FORWARD and OUTPUT chains of the filter table. > Q2) > I was guessing from the man pages of iptables that I can give multiple > source ip addresses in a single stretch by seperating them with a ',' . No, you can't. Where in the man page did you guess this from ? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d571830.8000...@plouf.fr.eu.org
Re: bad surprise using ghostview (gv)
Roger Leigh wrote: On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 09:32:42AM -0500, Gilbert Sullivan wrote: On 02/12/2011 08:59 AM, Bernard wrote: ...snip... If, discarding the use of 'gv', I just print the ps file directly as follows: lpr -PDeskJet-1120C myfile.ps I get exactly the same printing result (poor quality, black and white) ...snip... If I'm understanding correctly what you've written, it seems to me that your problem may not be ghostview. I think you might want to try specifying different drivers for your printer to see if others might work better. You might also want to provide a bit of information about your system. I run Debian testing on all of my systems, and I recently had to switch from hpijs drivers to CUPS+Gutenprint on all of my HP LaserJet printers for a similar problem. (They weren't dithering or shading properly, but simly printing black & white.) Note that while Gutenprint has excellent support for Epson, Canon and other colour inkjects, PCL-based HP deskjets are (AFAICT) only supported in black and white. Good for monochrome lasers where the fine dithering can greatly improve quality, but not so good for inkjets, so if this is the case, you might wasnt to look at hplip instead. But then I fail to understand: as explained in my original post, CUPS+GUTENPRINT does work with my DeskJet-1120C, it provides good quality color printing from OpenOffice as well as from the GIMP, only from GhostView does it print B/W with low quality -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d571796.7080...@teaser.fr
Re: grub 2 problems ??
Stephen Powell schreef: On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 10:26:54 -0500 (EST), steef wrote: for years (from potato/woody on) i have mounted 3 hd' s in my machine (independently installed from each other with debian, somtimes slackware and/or gentoo) from one specific hd with/after the command #mkdir /mnt/sdx, mnt/sdy etc. and in fstab /dev/sdx /mnt/sdx ext3 user 0 0 && (to keep it simple). on each hd i had a bootloader (lilo and later grub) installed. with grub2 as bootloader under squeeze i cannot mount other hd's anymore when independently on the *other* hd' s a bootloader (grub2) in the mbr is installed. without installing grub2 in the mbr of a sata-hd the hd on which i am mounting *does* recognize the other hd *with the exception of (old) ata hd's. my question: what do i miss if anything? or is this normal for the new grub? is there anything to do about this? has this got to do with UUID-numbers? I used grub-pc (Grub Version 2) early on in the life cycle of Squeeze, long before it became the stable release, and I had so many problems with it that I gave up on it and went back to lilo. I've never looked back. I remember seeing a number of posts in the lists in previous months with regard to problems using grub2 in multiple-disk systems. I would hope that those problems were fixed prior to Squeeze going production, but maybe they haven't been. If you like grub2, and you want to continue using it, and you can find a solution to your problem, great. More power to you. But if you decide you want to switch back to lilo, I recommend that you take a look at this web page: http://users.wowway.com/~zlinuxman/Kernel.htm Although the above web page is primarily about how to build a custom kernel, step 10, "Customizing the Kernel Installation Environment", may be very helpful to you. It not only documents how to convert to lilo, including a number of common pitfalls and how to avoid them, but also documents (and provides) some hook scripts which you might need (depending on whether you run stock kernels, custom kernels, or both) in order for lilo to integrate well into the Squeeze environment. It also recommends some local modifications (which are optional) to the boot-loader-provided hook scripts which will avoid some unnecessary calls to the boot loader. P.S. I started using Debian with Potato too. thank you, stephen. i consider already lilo, but a couple of years i enjoyed the versatility of grub: so saying goodbye without a serious try to fix my problem ' i cannot get over my heart' as we dutchmen say (in our native tongue). i let you know what i do and why. steef -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d571352.80...@home.nl
Re: [OT] E-mail formatting
On 02/12/2011 03:38 PM, Kelly Clowers wrote: On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 05:16, Brad Rogers wrote: On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 12:51:02 + (UTC) Camaleón wrote: Hello Camaleón, I would try it if I can but I am not receiving e-mails from this list to my Gmail account. Does anyone know how to request to this mailing list server a message? It won't help; Google won't echo your mails back to you when you post to a mailing list. They appear in the "All Mail" folder, but never in the inbox. Google call it a feature. Nigh on everyone else calls it a bug. Google will not alter this behaviour. For that reason (amongst others) it is as well to remember that gmail != email. Why would want a list email in your inbox anyway? Folders and rules exist for a reason. Cheers, Kelly Clowers Well, we've gone around and around with this before, but the obvious reason is so that you know the mail actually _made it_ to the list. I don't know why anyone would use GMail when you can use a more friendly one like Thunderbird. Or KMail, if you run a KDE system. --doug -- Blessed are the peacemakers...for they shall be shot at from both sides. --A. M. Greeley -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d57082d.20...@optonline.net
The PREROUTING or the INPUT (iptables)
Hi all, I am asking 2 questions in this and apologies if this is a bit too much in a single mail. Q1) I came to understand that the first rule to take the hit is the PREROUTING nat table (after the mangle). So in case I want to do a DNAT of input packets to one of the interfaces in another machine on the same network as the router, then, I can apply a DNAT rule in the PREROUTING. But if I want to also select that the packet must be DNAT'ed only if the input is from a specific ip address, then applying the DROP rule for 'anything other-than' type of packets is not effective in the INPUT chain since the packet traverses the routing decision and goes into the FORWARD chain and goes outgress... So out of many experts here, I just wanted to take an advice on where to keep the DROP/REJECT firewall rules ? Is it in the PREROUGING or the INPUT? If I keep it at INPUT then the packets which needs to be DNAT'ed will traverse bypassing the INPUT rule. also, Q2) I was guessing from the man pages of iptables that I can give multiple source ip addresses in a single stretch by seperating them with a ',' . I couldnt apparently do it, and below is the command line I used. Could someone point me on what is the mistake I am doing please ? iptables -A INPUT ! -s 1.1.1.1,1.1.1.2 -j ACCEPT This command is trying to resolve 1.1.1.1,1.1.1.2 ignoring the ',' in the ip addresses taking this as a complete name. --- root@mac1:/# iptables -A INPUT ! -s 1.1.1.1,1.1.1.2 -j ACCEPT iptables v1.4.2: host/network `1.1.1.1,1.1.1.2' not found Try `iptables -h' or 'iptables --help' for more information. --- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/alpine.deb.1.10.110218160.12...@server.uk.unixindia.com
Re: Networking trouble after recent upgrade in Sid
David Bruce wrote: > shawn wilson wrote: > >> allow-hotplug eth0 > >> iface eth0 inet static > >> ... > > > > Add 'auto eth0' > > Sorry to be dense about this, but is "auto eth0" applicable to > automatically do a static ip assignment to an interface on boot, as > well as being applicable to invoking dhcp for an interface on boot? Yes. The old default was 'auto' (aka allow-auto). The new default is 'allow-hotplug'. But both can be specified and having both are useful. You you Osamu Aoki for this fine documentation here: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch05.en.html#list-of-stanzas-in-eni The 'auto' configures /etc/init.d/networking to use it when the networking subsystem is started or restarted. The 'allow-hotplug' starts the interface when the device becomes available to the kernel. You may want to review the mailing list archive thread starting here: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2011/01/msg00974.html Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: bad surprise using ghostview (gv)
Gilbert Sullivan wrote: On 02/12/2011 08:59 AM, Bernard wrote: ...snip... If, discarding the use of 'gv', I just print the ps file directly as follows: lpr -PDeskJet-1120C myfile.ps I get exactly the same printing result (poor quality, black and white) ...snip... If I'm understanding correctly what you've written, it seems to me that your problem may not be ghostview. I think you might want to try specifying different drivers for your printer to see if others might work better. You might also want to provide a bit of information about your system. I am on Debian Lenny, and CUPS 1.3.8 is installed. My DeskJet-1120C is the only printer defined in cups. On http://localhost:631, it says: HP DeskJet 1120 C - CUPS + Gutenprint v5.0.2 URL parallel:/dev/lp0 General default media size A4 Color Model RGB Color The CUPS test page prints OK with due colors In my older system (Debian Sarge), I also had cups, but I wonder if hpijs was not installed too. In here, it was not installed, but I just did installed it, with no difference in the end printing result. A 'man hpijs' says: 'Ghostscript will run it if the ijs server parameter is set to 'IjsServer=hpijs' when invoking the IJS driver'. But I don't know how to go about to carry that test, since a 'man ghostscript' does not explain how invoke it the right way ; 'gs -sDEVICE=IJS myfile.ps' sends an error saying that device IJS is not found I run Debian testing on all of my systems, and I recently had to switch from hpijs drivers to CUPS+Gutenprint on all of my HP LaserJet printers for a similar problem. (They weren't dithering or shading properly, but simly printing black & white.) Here it seems to be the opposite: CUPS with Gutenprint gives poor black and white prints, and I am trying to test hpijs... to no avail so far -Gilbert -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d57030a.8090...@teaser.fr
Fwd: Networking trouble after recent upgrade in Sid
-- Forwarded message -- From: David Bruce Date: Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 4:18 PM Subject: Re: Networking trouble after recent upgrade in Sid To: shawn wilson Hi, On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 8:13 PM, shawn wilson wrote: > >> Here's my old interfaces file where I statically brought up eth0: >> # The primary network interface >> allow-hotplug eth0 >> #iface eth0 inet dhcp >> iface eth0 inet static >> address 192.168.0.100 >> netmask 255.255.255.0 >> broadcast 192.168.0.255 >> gateway 192.168.0.1 >> dns-domain gnu-orleans.org >> > > Add 'auto eth0' Sorry to be dense about this, but is "auto eth0" applicable to automatically do a static ip assignment to an interface on boot, as well as being applicable to invoking dhcp for an interface on boot? try it or read: http://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration or, i'll refer you to a thread i started: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2011/01/msg00905.html
Re: bad surprise using ghostview (gv)
On 02/12/2011 04:11 PM, Roger Leigh wrote: On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 09:32:42AM -0500, Gilbert Sullivan wrote: On 02/12/2011 08:59 AM, Bernard wrote: ...snip... If, discarding the use of 'gv', I just print the ps file directly as follows: lpr -PDeskJet-1120C myfile.ps I get exactly the same printing result (poor quality, black and white) ...snip... If I'm understanding correctly what you've written, it seems to me that your problem may not be ghostview. I think you might want to try specifying different drivers for your printer to see if others might work better. You might also want to provide a bit of information about your system. I run Debian testing on all of my systems, and I recently had to switch from hpijs drivers to CUPS+Gutenprint on all of my HP LaserJet printers for a similar problem. (They weren't dithering or shading properly, but simly printing black& white.) Note that while Gutenprint has excellent support for Epson, Canon and other colour inkjects, PCL-based HP deskjets are (AFAICT) only supported in black and white. Good for monochrome lasers where the fine dithering can greatly improve quality, but not so good for inkjets, so if this is the case, you might wasnt to look at hplip instead. There currently isn't a maintainer for the PCL driver to add colour support. If someone took the time, it would probably add significant quality improvement over hplip/hpijs, since it would make use of the more advanced dithering and colour handling of gutenprint. Regards, Roger Thank you very, very much for this information. It fits with what I've seen. And I'm just in the process of adding a couple of inkjet-based HP MFPs to the mix here, so this is very very timely bit of data for me. Regards, Gilbert -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d56f8d8.9050...@comcast.net
Re: Apt Crippled
On Saturday 12 February 2011 22:54:16 David Baron wrote: > On Saturday 12 February 2011 21:30:20 debian-user-digest- > > requ...@lists.debian.org wrote: > > > For several days (after squeeze release), I have been getting the > > > following > > > > > > error and can no longer run anything in apt, update or upgrading: > > > > > > > > > > > > Reading package lists... Error! > > > E: Encountered a section with no Package: header > > > E: Problem with MergeList > > > /var/lib/apt/lists/debian.co.il_debian_dists_testing_contrib_i18n_Trans > > > la tion- en > > > E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened. > > > > > > > > > > > > What to do about it > > > > Moving the files in /var/lib/apt/lists/ out of the way and rerunning > > apt-get update is worth a try. > > Did that. It stumbles at the same point: > > > Get:147 http://debian.co.il stable/non-free Translation-en > 99% [143 Translation-en bzip2 0 B] [Connecting to debian.co.il] [Waiting > for headers]943 kB/s 0sbzip2: (stdin) is not a > bzip2 file. > 99% [144 Translation-en_US bzip2 0 B] [Connecting to debian.co.il] [Waiting > for headers] 943 kB/s 0sbzip2: (stdin) is not a > bzip2 file. > 99% [145 Translation-en bzip2 0 B] [Connecting to debian.co.il] [Waiting > for headers]943 kB/s 0sbzip2: (stdin) is not a > bzip2 file. > * * * * MORE: after not liking the bzip2 versions, gronks at the lzma 99% [134 Translation-en_US lzma 0 B] [Waiting for headers] [Waiting for headers] 943 kB/s 0s/usr/bin/lzma: Decoder error 99% [135 Translation-en lzma 0 B] [Connecting to debian.co.il] [Waiting for headers] 943 kB/s 0s/usr/bin/lzma: Decoder error 99% [136 Translation-en_US lzma 0 B] [Connecting to debian.co.il] [Waiting for headers] 943 kB/s 0s/usr/bin/lzma: Decoder error * * * * > > The error shown in synaptic also indicates this point of error: > > E: Encountered a section with no Package: header > E: Problem with MergeList > /var/lib/apt/lists/debian.co.il_debian_dists_testing_contrib_i18n_Translati > on- en > E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened. > E: _cache->open() failed, please report. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201102122256.34502.d_ba...@012.net.il
Re: Apt Crippled
On Saturday 12 February 2011 21:30:20 debian-user-digest- requ...@lists.debian.org wrote: > > For several days (after squeeze release), I have been getting the > > following > > > > error and can no longer run anything in apt, update or upgrading: > > > > > > > > Reading package lists... Error! > > E: Encountered a section with no Package: header > > E: Problem with MergeList > > /var/lib/apt/lists/debian.co.il_debian_dists_testing_contrib_i18n_Transla > > tion- en > > E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened. > > > > > > > > What to do about it > > Moving the files in /var/lib/apt/lists/ out of the way and rerunning > apt-get update is worth a try. Did that. It stumbles at the same point: Get:147 http://debian.co.il stable/non-free Translation-en 99% [143 Translation-en bzip2 0 B] [Connecting to debian.co.il] [Waiting for headers]943 kB/s 0sbzip2: (stdin) is not a bzip2 file. 99% [144 Translation-en_US bzip2 0 B] [Connecting to debian.co.il] [Waiting for headers] 943 kB/s 0sbzip2: (stdin) is not a bzip2 file. 99% [145 Translation-en bzip2 0 B] [Connecting to debian.co.il] [Waiting for headers]943 kB/s 0sbzip2: (stdin) is not a bzip2 file. * * * * The error shown in synaptic also indicates this point of error: E: Encountered a section with no Package: header E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/debian.co.il_debian_dists_testing_contrib_i18n_Translation- en E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened. E: _cache->open() failed, please report. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201102122254.16940.d_ba...@012.net.il
Re: bad surprise using ghostview (gv)
On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 09:32:42AM -0500, Gilbert Sullivan wrote: > On 02/12/2011 08:59 AM, Bernard wrote: > > ...snip... > >If, discarding the use of 'gv', I just print the ps file directly as > >follows: > > > >lpr -PDeskJet-1120C myfile.ps > > > >I get exactly the same printing result (poor quality, black and white) > ...snip... > > If I'm understanding correctly what you've written, it seems to me > that your problem may not be ghostview. I think you might want to > try specifying different drivers for your printer to see if others > might work better. > > You might also want to provide a bit of information about your system. > > I run Debian testing on all of my systems, and I recently had to > switch from hpijs drivers to CUPS+Gutenprint on all of my HP > LaserJet printers for a similar problem. (They weren't dithering or > shading properly, but simly printing black & white.) Note that while Gutenprint has excellent support for Epson, Canon and other colour inkjects, PCL-based HP deskjets are (AFAICT) only supported in black and white. Good for monochrome lasers where the fine dithering can greatly improve quality, but not so good for inkjets, so if this is the case, you might wasnt to look at hplip instead. There currently isn't a maintainer for the PCL driver to add colour support. If someone took the time, it would probably add significant quality improvement over hplip/hpijs, since it would make use of the more advanced dithering and colour handling of gutenprint. Regards, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linux http://people.debian.org/~rleigh/ `. `' Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gutenprint.sourceforge.net/ `-GPG Public Key: 0x25BFB848 Please GPG sign your mail. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: How to make a VM accessible to all users
Dne, 12. 02. 2011 21:25:00 je shawn wilson napisal(a): > > Thanx. I seem to hazily recall using that years ago. However, I am also interested in a more general solution. How do you people make several users access your BSD/Solaris/GnuStep/etc. virtual machines? Is "remote desktop" the only way? > I thinly what your looking is a 'bond'ed interface so that your vm looks like its on your actual network. What do I use? Ssh + screen. But i think your asking about remote x. If so, you edit ssh.conf and maybe an x config file and pass ssh an option and you will be able to run any x program you want. I see. Basically, you make the VM appear as a networked machine; from there, it all boils down to various methods of network access, such as ssh, remote desktop, X forwarding, and similar. Thanx for the input. -- Cheerio, Klistvud http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Certifiable Loonix User #481801 Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1297544336.3395.0@compax
Re: [OT] E-mail formatting (was: Squeeze how to use networked printer?)
On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 05:16, Brad Rogers wrote: > On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 12:51:02 + (UTC) > Camaleón wrote: > > Hello Camaleón, > >> I would try it if I can but I am not receiving e-mails from this list >> to my Gmail account. Does anyone know how to request to this mailing >> list server a message? > > It won't help; Google won't echo your mails back to you when you post > to a mailing list. They appear in the "All Mail" folder, but never in > the inbox. Google call it a feature. Nigh on everyone else calls it a > bug. Google will not alter this behaviour. > > For that reason (amongst others) it is as well to remember that gmail != > email. Why would want a list email in your inbox anyway? Folders and rules exist for a reason. Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktinhi6ws8fuqeanih+gcqm1fkqq3nyum8rt+k...@mail.gmail.com
Re: How to make a VM accessible to all users
> > Thanx. I seem to hazily recall using that years ago. However, I am also interested in a more general solution. How do you people make several users access your BSD/Solaris/GnuStep/etc. virtual machines? Is "remote desktop" the only way? > I thinly what your looking is a 'bond'ed interface so that your vm looks like its on your actual network. What do I use? Ssh + screen. But i think your asking about remote x. If so, you edit ssh.conf and maybe an x config file and pass ssh an option and you will be able to run any x program you want.
Re: Networking trouble after recent upgrade in Sid
> Here's my old interfaces file where I statically brought up eth0: > > # This file describes the network interfaces available on your system > # and how to activate them. For more information, see interfaces(5). > > # The loopback network interface > auto lo > iface lo inet loopback > > # The primary network interface > allow-hotplug eth0 > #iface eth0 inet dhcp > iface eth0 inet static > address 192.168.0.100 > netmask 255.255.255.0 > broadcast 192.168.0.255 > gateway 192.168.0.1 > dns-domain gnu-orleans.org > Add 'auto eth0'
Re: system beep after upgrade to squeeze
On 12 February 2011 15:08, Stephen Powell wrote: > On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 13:50:04 -0500 (EST), Camaleón wrote: >> >> On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 13:32:56 -0500, Jim Green wrote: >>> >>> I am using a different lightweight windows manager icewm... I guess >>> some modules changed name in upgrade and I don't know which to >>> blacklist.. thanks! >> >> Let me test it. >> >> I have blacklisted the module the same way you did and after restarting >> the system (I'm running testing) the module does not load. >> >> You can check it with "lsmod | grep pcspkr" > > Keep in mind that blacklisting a module only prevents the hot-plug > system (i.e. udev) from loading it. It can still be loaded manually > by the user or automatically by the kernel (if it is a dependency > of some other module). For example, if the module name is listed > in /etc/modules, then it will be loaded, whether it is blacklisted > or not. # /etc/modules: kernel modules to load at boot time. # # This file contains the names of kernel modules that should be loaded # at boot time, one per line. Lines beginning with "#" are ignored. loop sbp2 thinkpad-acpi fan_control=1 firewire-sbp2 iwl3945 I don't have it in my /etc/modules.. > > -- > .''`. Stephen Powell > : :' : > `. `'` > `- > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: > http://lists.debian.org/1062761743.771838.1297541307404.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/AANLkTi=sr_ecknkttaze7bzxfytidrpajv8az9f88...@mail.gmail.com
Re: system beep after upgrade to squeeze
On 12 February 2011 14:03, Camaleón wrote: > On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 13:55:23 -0500, Jim Green wrote: > >> On 12 February 2011 13:50, Camaleón wrote: > I am using a different lightweight windows manager icewm... I guess some modules changed name in upgrade and I don't know which to blacklist.. thanks! >>> >>> Let me test it. >>> >>> I have blacklisted the module the same way you did and after restarting >>> the system (I'm running testing) the module does not load. >>> >>> You can check it with "lsmod | grep pcspkr" >> >> it shows no ouput so I think pcspkr is not loaded. > > Then the problem comes from a different source... Do you have "snd_pcsp" > module loaded? :-? this is all I got.. snd_hda_codec_analog45530 1 snd_hda_intel 16811 2 snd_hda_codec 46002 2 snd_hda_codec_analog,snd_hda_intel snd_hwdep 4054 1 snd_hda_codec snd_pcm_oss28671 0 snd_mixer_oss 10461 1 snd_pcm_oss snd_pcm47226 4 snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_pcm_oss snd_seq_midi3576 0 snd_rawmidi12513 1 snd_seq_midi snd_seq_midi_event 3684 1 snd_seq_midi snd_seq35463 2 snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_event snd_timer 12258 3 snd_pcm,snd_seq snd_seq_device 3673 3 snd_seq_midi,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq snd34375 13 snd_hda_codec_analog,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_hwdep,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device soundcore 3450 1 snd snd_page_alloc 5045 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm > > Greetings, > > -- > Camaleón > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.02.12.19.03...@gmail.com > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/AANLkTinVPZFHLho9NWUb=2ht532ggcnjn7ar4lhjz...@mail.gmail.com
Re: system beep after upgrade to squeeze
On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 13:50:04 -0500 (EST), Camaleón wrote: > > On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 13:32:56 -0500, Jim Green wrote: >> >> I am using a different lightweight windows manager icewm... I guess >> some modules changed name in upgrade and I don't know which to >> blacklist.. thanks! > > Let me test it. > > I have blacklisted the module the same way you did and after restarting > the system (I'm running testing) the module does not load. > > You can check it with "lsmod | grep pcspkr" Keep in mind that blacklisting a module only prevents the hot-plug system (i.e. udev) from loading it. It can still be loaded manually by the user or automatically by the kernel (if it is a dependency of some other module). For example, if the module name is listed in /etc/modules, then it will be loaded, whether it is blacklisted or not. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1062761743.771838.1297541307404.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
Re: grub 2 problems ??
In <4d56a6be.9070...@home.nl>, steef wrote: >with grub2 as bootloader under squeeze i cannot mount other hd's anymore >when independently on the *other* hd' s a bootloader (grub2) in the mbr >is installed. without installing grub2 in the mbr of a sata-hd the hd on >which i am mounting *does* recognize the other hd *with the exception of >(old) ata hd's. GRUB (both 1 and 2) care very little about what your OS calls disks. They have their own naming scheme that they use to locate files and/or block lists. They will pass arbitrary strings set by you to your kernel so that it can find a root device or other devices. When installing the boot sector, GRUB cares a little bit, since it has to use OS routines to access the disk, but that's about it. The Linux kernel in Squeeze renames a lot of devices, particularly block devices, so names like /dev/sdb and /dev/hdc shouldn't be used anymore. These names are based on the order the kernel discovers the device and what subsystem is used to handle it. Disk discovery used to be a serial, deterministic, synchronous process; it is now a parallel, non-deterministic, asynchronous process. This means these device names might change from boot to boot, even if the hardware layout does not change. Also, PATA devices used be to handled by the IDE subsystem and assigned names under /dev/hd*; now, they are handled by the SCSI/SATA subsystem and assigned names used /dev/sd*. >my question: what do i miss if anything? or is this normal for the new >grub? is there anything to do about this? has this got to do with >UUID-numbers? Read the Squeeze release notes. There are instructions there for what tasks to perform before upgrade so that your system cleanly reboots. There are also instructions for what you failed to prepare and your system no longer boots after the upgrade. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. b...@iguanasuicide.net ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.net/\_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: /etc/apt/sources.list
In , Heddle Weaver wrote: >E: Release file expired, ignoring >http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/debian/dists/unstable/Release (invalid since 9h >53min 14s) This error indicates a bad mirror. >Should I re-enter the 'testing' security line back in? >The standard 'testing' line also? Neither of those will fix a bad mirror. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. b...@iguanasuicide.net ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.net/\_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [OT] E-mail formatting (was: Squeeze how to use networked printer?)
On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Brad Rogers wrote: > On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 09:06:56 -0500 > Tom H wrote: > >> They do if you disable threading. > > Interesting; I'll try to remember next time I have a dig at > google. :-) You're welcome. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/AANLkTiÿb58nsrxfcwmjriksnbpv8awjxxwnjuhr...@mail.gmail.com
Re: /etc/apt/sources.list
On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 6:10 AM, Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Sb, 12 feb 11, 05:54:55, Tom H wrote: >> On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 5:29 AM, Andrei Popescu >> wrote: >> > >> > As far as I understand sid/unstable users should always have testing in >> > their sources.lists, since the Release Managers sometimes remove >> > packages from unstable to help testing migration. I can search for the >> > exact reference in case someone is interested. >> >> Yes, please. > > http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2009/03/msg00582.html Thanks. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktik9-08hpg2uy2-mzvv1bbca6tsslbb_g9pef...@mail.gmail.com
Re: grub 2 problems ??
On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 10:26 AM, steef wrote: > > for years (from potato/woody on) i have mounted 3 hd' s in my machine > (independently installed from each other with debian, somtimes slackware > and/or gentoo) from one specific hd with/after the command #mkdir /mnt/sdx, > mnt/sdy etc. and in fstab /dev/sdx /mnt/sdx ext3 user 0 0 && (to keep > it simple). on each hd i had a bootloader (lilo and later grub) installed. > > with grub2 as bootloader under squeeze i cannot mount other hd's anymore > when independently on the *other* hd' s a bootloader (grub2) in the mbr is > installed. without installing grub2 in the mbr of a sata-hd the hd on which > i am mounting *does* recognize the other hd *with the exception of (old) ata > hd's. > > my question: what do i miss if anything? or is this normal for the new grub? > is there anything to do about this? has this got to do with UUID-numbers? I assume that by "mount" you mean "boot from". What's the output of "os-prober"? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/AANLkTimqZu6m38B4Szibw1KMYJMoPBuhv8ezDJBNv=s...@mail.gmail.com
Re: [OT] E-mail formatting (was: Squeeze how to use networked printer?)
On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 09:06:56 -0500 Tom H wrote: Hello Tom, > They do if you disable threading. Interesting; I'll try to remember next time I have a dig at google. :-) -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent" Well I don't want you to think I'm being obscene Fish - The Damned signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Apt Crippled
On Sat 12 Feb 2011 at 19:49:10 +0200, David Baron wrote: > For several days (after squeeze release), I have been getting the following > error and can no longer run anything in apt, update or upgrading: > > > Reading package lists... Error! > E: Encountered a section with no Package: header > E: Problem with MergeList > /var/lib/apt/lists/debian.co.il_debian_dists_testing_contrib_i18n_Translation- > en > E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened. > > What to do about it Moving the files in /var/lib/apt/lists/ out of the way and rerunning apt-get update is worth a try. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110212185353.GA32679@desktop
Re: system beep after upgrade to squeeze
On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 13:55:23 -0500, Jim Green wrote: > On 12 February 2011 13:50, Camaleón wrote: >>> I am using a different lightweight windows manager icewm... I guess >>> some modules changed name in upgrade and I don't know which to >>> blacklist.. thanks! >> >> Let me test it. >> >> I have blacklisted the module the same way you did and after restarting >> the system (I'm running testing) the module does not load. >> >> You can check it with "lsmod | grep pcspkr" > > it shows no ouput so I think pcspkr is not loaded. Then the problem comes from a different source... Do you have "snd_pcsp" module loaded? :-? Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.02.12.19.03...@gmail.com
Re: system beep after upgrade to squeeze
On 12 February 2011 13:49, Tixy wrote: > On Sat, 2011-02-12 at 12:32 -0500, Jim Green wrote: >> Hello: >> I upgraded from lenny to squeeze, overall it was ok, but I still >> couldn't silence the system beep.. > > I had a beep problem in Squeeze recently and finally fixed it using ALSA > mixer and muting the 'Beep' slider. (Had to select it a visible first in > preferences.) Yes... this works... Thanks! I thought this could be a common problem too... hope the other upgraders could see this post too. > > > -- > Tixy () The ASCII Ribbon Campaign (www.asciiribbon.org) > /\ Against HTML e-mail and proprietary attachments > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1297536553.3648.13.ca...@computer2.home > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/AANLkTinwz3D2oibnqj7ScaHzdZXkC4B5Jr5_Btb¿z...@mail.gmail.com
Re: system beep after upgrade to squeeze
On 12 February 2011 13:50, Camaleón wrote: > On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 13:32:56 -0500, Jim Green wrote: > >> On 12 February 2011 13:22, Camaleón wrote: > >>> In GNOME, you can try by disabling it via gconf editor: >>> >>> /apps/metacity/general/audible_bell [ ] >>> >>> (remove the check if present) >> >> I am using a different lightweight windows manager icewm... I guess >> some modules changed name in upgrade and I don't know which to >> blacklist.. thanks! > > Let me test it. > > I have blacklisted the module the same way you did and after restarting > the system (I'm running testing) the module does not load. > > You can check it with "lsmod | grep pcspkr" it shows no ouput so I think pcspkr is not loaded. > > Greetings, > > -- > Camaleón > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.02.12.18.50...@gmail.com > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktik7q3661--cmihsc_kiuunt3tmqjymnzkd4d...@mail.gmail.com
Re: system beep after upgrade to squeeze
On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 13:32:56 -0500, Jim Green wrote: > On 12 February 2011 13:22, Camaleón wrote: >> In GNOME, you can try by disabling it via gconf editor: >> >> /apps/metacity/general/audible_bell [ ] >> >> (remove the check if present) > > I am using a different lightweight windows manager icewm... I guess > some modules changed name in upgrade and I don't know which to > blacklist.. thanks! Let me test it. I have blacklisted the module the same way you did and after restarting the system (I'm running testing) the module does not load. You can check it with "lsmod | grep pcspkr" Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.02.12.18.50...@gmail.com
Re: system beep after upgrade to squeeze
On Sat, 2011-02-12 at 12:32 -0500, Jim Green wrote: > Hello: > I upgraded from lenny to squeeze, overall it was ok, but I still > couldn't silence the system beep.. I had a beep problem in Squeeze recently and finally fixed it using ALSA mixer and muting the 'Beep' slider. (Had to select it a visible first in preferences.) -- Tixy () The ASCII Ribbon Campaign (www.asciiribbon.org) /\ Against HTML e-mail and proprietary attachments -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1297536553.3648.13.ca...@computer2.home
Re: system beep after upgrade to squeeze
On 12 February 2011 13:22, Camaleón wrote: > On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 12:32:47 -0500, Jim Green wrote: > >> I upgraded from lenny to squeeze, overall it was ok, but I still >> couldn't silence the system beep.. > > (...) > > In GNOME, you can try by disabling it via gconf editor: > > /apps/metacity/general/audible_bell [ ] > > (remove the check if present) I am using a different lightweight windows manager icewm... I guess some modules changed name in upgrade and I don't know which to blacklist.. thanks! > > Greetings, > > -- > Camaleón > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.02.12.18.22...@gmail.com > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/AANLkTi=alezkwcvhynisjzwcbkfsh8mfxnkft83yx...@mail.gmail.com
Re: system beep after upgrade to squeeze
On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 12:32:47 -0500, Jim Green wrote: > I upgraded from lenny to squeeze, overall it was ok, but I still > couldn't silence the system beep.. (...) In GNOME, you can try by disabling it via gconf editor: /apps/metacity/general/audible_bell [ ] (remove the check if present) Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.02.12.18.22...@gmail.com
Re: Hardware needed for home network
On Fri, 2011-02-11 at 23:02 +, Chris Davies wrote: > > If I use a regular Ethernet cable to connect the firewall/server > > computer to the DSL modem, would it work to use an Ethernet cross-cable > > and USB-to-Ethernet adapters to provide the connection to my main > > computer? Are there USB-to-USB cross cables? > > I'd recommend you keep it simple. Ethernet throughout. > > Modem <---> Firewall/Server <---> Switch <<--->> Other system(s) Would another option not be to just get a switch and not bother with a second Ethernet card in the server? This is the setup I run, i.e. Modem <-> ++ Firewall/Server <---> | Switch | Other system(s) <---> ++ -- Tixy () The ASCII Ribbon Campaign (www.asciiribbon.org) /\ Against HTML e-mail and proprietary attachments -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1297534704.3648.10.ca...@computer2.home
Re: grub 2 problems ??
On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 16:26:54 +0100, steef wrote: (...) > my question: what do i miss if anything? or is this normal for the new > grub? is there anything to do about this? has this got to do with > UUID-numbers? I'm not sure to have understood it at all. "Mounting" is different than "booting", so, what kind of error are you experiencing that involves GRUB2 and mounting? Moreover, how can a bootloader interfere in mounting a partition? :-? Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.02.12.18.11...@gmail.com
Apt Crippled
For several days (after squeeze release), I have been getting the following error and can no longer run anything in apt, update or upgrading: Reading package lists... Error! E: Encountered a section with no Package: header E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/debian.co.il_debian_dists_testing_contrib_i18n_Translation- en E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened. What to do about it -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201102121949.10796.d_ba...@012.net.il
Re: grub 2 problems ??
On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 10:26:54 -0500 (EST), steef wrote: > > for years (from potato/woody on) i have mounted 3 hd' s in my machine > (independently installed from each other with debian, somtimes slackware > and/or gentoo) from one specific hd with/after the command #mkdir > /mnt/sdx, mnt/sdy etc. and in fstab /dev/sdx /mnt/sdx ext3 user 0 0 > && (to keep it simple). on each hd i had a bootloader (lilo and later > grub) installed. > > with grub2 as bootloader under squeeze i cannot mount other hd's anymore > when independently on the *other* hd' s a bootloader (grub2) in the mbr > is installed. without installing grub2 in the mbr of a sata-hd the hd on > which i am mounting *does* recognize the other hd *with the exception of > (old) ata hd's. > > my question: what do i miss if anything? or is this normal for the new > grub? is there anything to do about this? has this got to do with > UUID-numbers? I used grub-pc (Grub Version 2) early on in the life cycle of Squeeze, long before it became the stable release, and I had so many problems with it that I gave up on it and went back to lilo. I've never looked back. I remember seeing a number of posts in the lists in previous months with regard to problems using grub2 in multiple-disk systems. I would hope that those problems were fixed prior to Squeeze going production, but maybe they haven't been. If you like grub2, and you want to continue using it, and you can find a solution to your problem, great. More power to you. But if you decide you want to switch back to lilo, I recommend that you take a look at this web page: http://users.wowway.com/~zlinuxman/Kernel.htm Although the above web page is primarily about how to build a custom kernel, step 10, "Customizing the Kernel Installation Environment", may be very helpful to you. It not only documents how to convert to lilo, including a number of common pitfalls and how to avoid them, but also documents (and provides) some hook scripts which you might need (depending on whether you run stock kernels, custom kernels, or both) in order for lilo to integrate well into the Squeeze environment. It also recommends some local modifications (which are optional) to the boot-loader-provided hook scripts which will avoid some unnecessary calls to the boot loader. P.S. I started using Debian with Potato too. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1984524320.769461.1297532973888.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
system beep after upgrade to squeeze
Hello: I upgraded from lenny to squeeze, overall it was ok, but I still couldn't silence the system beep.. I already have blacklist pcspkr in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf this used to work in lenny, but stopped working in squeeze, thanks for any help! Jim. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/AANLkTikgm5cjKYjYeTSmPHGHBkR23n-4YBDNUJw=9...@mail.gmail.com
grub 2 problems ??
hi list, for years (from potato/woody on) i have mounted 3 hd' s in my machine (independently installed from each other with debian, somtimes slackware and/or gentoo) from one specific hd with/after the command #mkdir /mnt/sdx, mnt/sdy etc. and in fstab /dev/sdx /mnt/sdx ext3 user 0 0 && (to keep it simple). on each hd i had a bootloader (lilo and later grub) installed. with grub2 as bootloader under squeeze i cannot mount other hd's anymore when independently on the *other* hd' s a bootloader (grub2) in the mbr is installed. without installing grub2 in the mbr of a sata-hd the hd on which i am mounting *does* recognize the other hd *with the exception of (old) ata hd's. my question: what do i miss if anything? or is this normal for the new grub? is there anything to do about this? has this got to do with UUID-numbers? reg., steef -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d56a6be.9070...@home.nl
Re: problem with hash sum mismatch
Same here: $ sudo pbuilder --update W: /root/.pbuilderrc does not exist I: Building the build Environment I: extracting base tarball [/var/cache/pbuilder/base.tgz] I: creating local configuration I: copying local configuration I: mounting /proc filesystem I: mounting /dev/pts filesystem I: Mounting /var/cache/pbuilder/ccache I: policy-rc.d already exists I: Refreshing the base.tgz I: upgrading packages Hit http://ftp.fr.debian.org sid InRelease Hit http://ftp.fr.debian.org experimental InRelease Get:1 http://ftp.fr.debian.org sid/main amd64 Packages [6975 kB] Hit http://ftp.fr.debian.org sid/main TranslationIndex Get:2 http://ftp.fr.debian.org experimental/main amd64 Packages/DiffIndex [2023 B] Ign http://ftp.fr.debian.org experimental/main TranslationIndex Ign http://ftp.fr.debian.org experimental/main Translation-en Fetched 6977 kB in 7s (941 kB/s) W: Failed to fetch bzip2:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/ftp.fr.debian.org_debian_dists_sid_main_binary-amd64_Packages Hash Sum mismatch I cannot find anything to fix it so far... On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 11:18 PM, mike cutie and maia wrote: > Hi, > > > > Starting this afternoon I get this when running apt-get update > > > > W: Failed to fetch > bzip2:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/ftp.us.debian.org_debian_dists_sid_main_binary-amd64_Packages > Hash Sum mismatch > > > > I tried apt-get –fix-broken update > > And apt-get –fix-missing update -- Mathieu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktim3lh1gffg5xvph9vfun3cfhd16my-jnr6gq...@mail.gmail.com
Re: [OT] E-mail formatting (was: Squeeze how to use networked printer?)
On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 16:01:34 +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Sb, 12 feb 11, 12:51:02, Camaleón wrote: >> >> I would try it if I can but I am not receiving e-mails from this list >> to my Gmail account. Does anyone know how to request to this mailing >> list server a message? > > If gmail does not handle mailing lists messages differently it would be > enough to check that References: and In-Reply-To: gets removed if you > change the subject. This is easy to test. Well, yes... when I reply to any e-mail I've received via Gmail's webmail and I edit the "Subject" line, the received message loses both headers: "References" and "In-Reply-To". The same test carried out within Mutt preserves both headers for the incoming e-mail. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.02.12.15.04...@gmail.com
Re: /etc/apt/sources.list
On Sat 12 Feb 2011 at 22:27:12 +1000, Heddle Weaver wrote: > O.K., so now, what I have as a result of 'aptitude update' is this: [snip] > Hit http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au unstable Release > E: Release file expired, ignoring > http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/debian/dists/unstable/Release (invalid since 9h > 53min 14s) > > This is after reducing my /etc/apt/sources.list down to just the one line > for 'unstable'. > Should I re-enter the 'testing' security line back in? > The standard 'testing' line also? Re-entering those lines will not cure the problem if unstable's Release file is invalid. Try another mirror. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110212143420.GZ32679@desktop
Re: /etc/apt/sources.list
On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 16:04:49 +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Sb, 12 feb 11, 13:40:58, Camaleón wrote: >> >> So, should people running "sid" also add the whole "testing" repo under >> all circumstances (as default policy) or just when some package is >> broken and is in the need of back to the previous version or something >> is missing? :-? > > Can you think of a case where having testing in sources.list can hurt on > a sid machine? No (maybe it would require to play with repositories priorities), but I also find not good reasons to have it both enabled "by default", unless you fall into a very specific situation that it requires. Being a fast- moving repository, "unstable" should be "healed" by itself very quickly. Anyway, all in all I find this is more a user's decision. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.02.12.14.49...@gmail.com
Re: bad surprise using ghostview (gv)
On 02/12/2011 08:59 AM, Bernard wrote: ...snip... If, discarding the use of 'gv', I just print the ps file directly as follows: lpr -PDeskJet-1120C myfile.ps I get exactly the same printing result (poor quality, black and white) ...snip... If I'm understanding correctly what you've written, it seems to me that your problem may not be ghostview. I think you might want to try specifying different drivers for your printer to see if others might work better. You might also want to provide a bit of information about your system. I run Debian testing on all of my systems, and I recently had to switch from hpijs drivers to CUPS+Gutenprint on all of my HP LaserJet printers for a similar problem. (They weren't dithering or shading properly, but simly printing black & white.) -Gilbert -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d569a0a.9030...@comcast.net
Re: [OT] E-mail formatting (was: Squeeze how to use networked printer?)
On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 8:16 AM, Brad Rogers wrote: > On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 12:51:02 + (UTC) > Camaleón wrote: > >> I would try it if I can but I am not receiving e-mails from this list >> to my Gmail account. Does anyone know how to request to this mailing >> list server a message? > > It won't help; Google won't echo your mails back to you when you post > to a mailing list. They appear in the "All Mail" folder, but never in > the inbox. Google call it a feature. Nigh on everyone else calls it a > bug. Google will not alter this behaviour. They do if you disable threading. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/AANLkTiÛifuvnxlgq_xmjy61c29txuy_pvjyvfxr...@mail.gmail.com
Re: /etc/apt/sources.list
On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 7:40 AM, Camaleón wrote: > On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 13:10:49 +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: > >> On Sb, 12 feb 11, 05:54:55, Tom H wrote: >>> On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 5:29 AM, Andrei Popescu wrote: > >>> > As far as I understand sid/unstable users should always have testing >>> > in their sources.lists, since the Release Managers sometimes remove >>> > packages from unstable to help testing migration. I can search for >>> > the exact reference in case someone is interested. >>> >>> Yes, please. >> >> http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2009/03/msg00582.html > > That message got another reply: > > http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2009/03/msg00585.html > > So, should people running "sid" also add the whole "testing" repo under > all circumstances (as default policy) or just when some package is broken > and is in the need of back to the previous version or something is > missing? :-? > > Greetings, > > -- > Camaleón In my experience, testing is more dangerous than unstable. Reason being that testing doesn't refresh as frequent, so when bugs show up, you have to live with them for longer, or there are more probabilities for you to do more hand work (in unstable it's more probable to get a fix sooner). To me testing makes more sense when there's code freeze and one wants to have a taste of what's soon to come, but still close enough to stable and under heavy scrutiny (given it's about to become stable). Other than that unstable alone is safer. The comment about removing packets from unstable, well, that might happen, but that doesn't mean the packet gets uninstalled automatically from the box. BTW, the times I've seen packages being removed from unstable, they have really gotten out of the repos, so instead it had help me educate the reasons why (I go look the web, or ask the list), and if there are alternatives under the repos... BTW, aptitude is of great help, specially safe-upgrade, :-) -- Javier. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/AANLkTi�jaajudeg4jfsqwpfj3i4y4c16srzswro...@mail.gmail.com
Re: /etc/apt/sources.list
On Sb, 12 feb 11, 13:40:58, Camaleón wrote: > > So, should people running "sid" also add the whole "testing" repo under > all circumstances (as default policy) or just when some package is broken > and is in the need of back to the previous version or something is > missing? :-? Can you think of a case where having testing in sources.list can hurt on a sid machine? Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [OT] E-mail formatting (was: Squeeze how to use networked printer?)
On Sb, 12 feb 11, 12:51:02, Camaleón wrote: > > I would try it if I can but I am not receiving e-mails from this list to > my Gmail account. Does anyone know how to request to this mailing list > server a message? If gmail does not handle mailing lists messages differently it would be enough to check that References: and In-Reply-To: gets removed if you change the subject. This is easy to test. Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
bad surprise using ghostview (gv)
Hi to Everyone, I have quite often used 'gv' (ghostview) up to about a year and a half ago or so. I displayed ps files with it, and then printed them. To be more precise, the ps files were ancestry charts generated by a genealogy software called 'lifelines'. Everything went OK at that time. But this no longer works well. 'gv' still displays those charts allright on the screen, but, if I print them, they come out Black and White with a mediocre printing quality. A year and a half ago, when everything printed OK, I was running Debian Sarge. Since then I have installed Lenny (a new install, not just an upgrade). My printer is the same : DeskJet-1120C ; it still works OK with other apps and still prints color when using OO.org or the GIMP. The man pages of 'gv' don't mention anything particular about printing. To display lifelines generated ps files, I just type: gv myfile.ps and the file does display nicely with its colors. Then I click onto the box 'FILE' and 'Print Document', which is exactly what I used to do before. Then a dialog box comes in, proposing to write a print command, which starts with 'lpr'. I then add '-PDeskJet-1120C' to the already displayed 'lpr', which gives: lpr -PDeskJet-1120C. If, discarding the use of 'gv', I just print the ps file directly as follows: lpr -PDeskJet-1120C myfile.ps I get exactly the same printing result (poor quality, black and white) The man pages of 'lpr' make mention of a '-o' argument that - if I caught it well - should allow to precise details, but no more is said about this. In any case, as previously said, I used to be able to directly print with colours using 'gv'. The printer is being reckognised allright, and, if I make a spelling mistake, for instance if I write 'deskJet-1120C' or 'DeskJet_1120C', I get error messages saying that the printer is not found. In the other hand, if I write nothing in front of 'lpr', it still prints, with the same poor quality as if using the proper printer name. Would I be missing a GV or GS related library, or is there a know problem or bug with newer versions of gv/gs (well, I mean newer than in Sarge time) Thanks in advance for your help. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d56925a.2060...@teaser.fr
Re: rtorrent queue
On Sb, 12 feb 11, 04:20:48, Nikolas Slivka wrote: > Hello! > > rTorrent was possible (possibly with external script) configure uTorrent-like > queue? As an example: 10 pieces torrents put it, start the first, then after > it is finished downloading, start the next, and so the line. > I look forward to possible solutions. A google search for "rtorrent queue" (without the quotes) finds some interesting stuff. What specific issues are you facing? Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
How about a new Lenny Debian Multimedia?
Based on these assumptions: 1. I'm going to take a guess that the owner of Debian Multimedia is not interested in serving lenny files any more (this, of course, could be wrong). 2. There is interest in being able to access the Lenny files that were stored at the DM site. A proposal: A group of interested Debian users who have web servers and some available bandwith to offer: Divide the repository up among their servers with one server hosting the menu interface to the individual files. That the individual server admins contact the managers of the packages that they host and request notificaiton of package updates from the package authors and keep their servers up to date. This project should last for a year while Lenny is still supported. Call for suggestions: Before a call for volunteers goes out Is there no need for this proposal? Have I left something out of this proposal? Is there something that I have wrong? Is there something that you would like changed or done differently? Please reply to this thread on the list. thanks, Mark -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201102120855.23890.m...@neidorff.com
Re: [OT] E-mail formatting (was: Squeeze how to use networked printer?)
On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 13:31:35 + (UTC) Camaleón wrote: Hello Camaleón, > Sure it will :-) In which case, I misunderstood your intent. My apologies. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent" Early morning when I wake up, I look like Kiss but without the make up Strong - Robbie Williams signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Issues with scponlyc on amd64 squeeze final release.
On a new Squeeze [amd64] machine, I've created a new user with the script: /usr/share/doc/scponly/setup_chroot/setup_chroot.sh.gz (uncompressed and placed in /tmp together with the config.h file). For the new user, let's call him Peter for argument sake, we have the following: # grep peter /etc/passwd peter:x:1050:1050::/home/peter:/usr/sbin/scponlyc # ls -ald /home/peter/ drwxr-xr-x 18 root root 4096 Feb 12 23:25 /home/peter/ # ls -lad /home/peter/.ssh drwx-- 2 peter peter 4096 Feb 12 17:23 .ssh # ls -ald /home/peter/.ssh/authorized_keys -rw--- 1 peter peter 629 Feb 12 17:23 /home/peter/.ssh/authorized_keys # echo /usr/sbin/scponlyc >> /etc/shells So, all the ownership and permissions look right to me There are some root owned directories and files as created by the setup_chroot.sh script. All _should_ be good, but a user on another machine cannot sshfs mount Peter's area using Peter's credentials. The same issues manifests itself for winscp use as well. Logging shows on each end, that the other end disconnected the session -- great, the client gives me the run around and so does the server! An older machine (i386 Lenny) works fine in both of the same scenarios with identical setup type (just different macine arch and binaries). The /etc/ssh/sshd_config has an entry for sftp-server (exactly the same on each server). Everything works if I change the login shell to /bin/bash, but I don't want this user to have any command line access to the new server (as he didn't have on the old server). I need scponlyc (chroot version) to work as I also do not want Peter to be able to snoop in other directories that don't concern him. Does anybody have any ideas as to what is required to fix this problem? -- Kind Regards AndrewM Andrew McGlashan Broadband Solutions now including VoIP -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/55ceb6b85361609640482bbdcca9a852.squir...@www.affinityvision.com.au
Re: /etc/apt/sources.list
On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 13:10:49 +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Sb, 12 feb 11, 05:54:55, Tom H wrote: >> On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 5:29 AM, Andrei Popescu wrote: >> > As far as I understand sid/unstable users should always have testing >> > in their sources.lists, since the Release Managers sometimes remove >> > packages from unstable to help testing migration. I can search for >> > the exact reference in case someone is interested. >> >> Yes, please. > > http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2009/03/msg00582.html That message got another reply: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2009/03/msg00585.html So, should people running "sid" also add the whole "testing" repo under all circumstances (as default policy) or just when some package is broken and is in the need of back to the previous version or something is missing? :-? Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.02.12.13.40...@gmail.com
Re: Hardware needed for home network
On 12 February 2011 22:54, Rob Owens wrote: > On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 02:21:30PM -0600, Jason Hsu wrote: > > On Fri, 11 Feb 2011 12:17:24 -0800 > > David Christensen wrote: > > > > > > 3. Netgear fast Ethernet (red) and Gigabit (green and orange) switches > > > with normal/ cross-over auto-sensing. > > > > > What are the differences among a switch, hub, and router? I know that > they are used in networking, but I don't understand what setups they are > appropriate for. > > > You're asking a lot of good, but basic, questions. I think you might be > better off using a store-bought router (with firewall capabilities) so > that you can be fairly certain of securing your home network. Then > experiment with creating your own firewall within your LAN. Learn how > to set it up, learn how to test it using nmap and other tools. I'd just > hate to see you mess it up and end up with your LAN open to the > internet. > Or locked out of your own system with a bastille mis-config. I've done that too. Regards, Weaver -- Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful. — Lucius Annæus Seneca. Terrorism, the new religion.
Re: [OT] E-mail formatting (was: Squeeze how to use networked printer?)
On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 13:16:41 +, Brad Rogers wrote: > On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 12:51:02 + (UTC) Camaleón > wrote: > > Hello Camaleón, > >> I would try it if I can but I am not receiving e-mails from this list >> to my Gmail account. Does anyone know how to request to this mailing >> list server a message? > > It won't help; Sure it will :-) > Google won't echo your mails back to you when you post > to a mailing list. They appear in the "All Mail" folder, but never in > the inbox. Google call it a feature. Nigh on everyone else calls it a > bug. Google will not alter this behaviour. That's not relevent for this test. > For that reason (amongst others) it is as well to remember that gmail != > email. I only can but agree on this (Gmails's webmail is "something else"). Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.02.12.13.31...@gmail.com
Re: How to make a VM accessible to all users
Dne, 12. 02. 2011 13:55:17 je Andrew McGlashan napisal(a): Hi, Klistvud wrote: Howdie, fellow Debianites! I have a qemu-kvm virtual machine -- a virtual Windows XP install -- occasionally running inside my Squeeze and I was wondering: what's the best way for letting all users of the computer access the same instance of the VM (they each have a separate account inside the Windows VM)? Until now, I had each user launch her/his own instance, which is, as you can imagine, somewhat resource-wasteful. With XP, there was a method that allowed you to have multiple concurrent RDP sessions -- if that fix still works, I'm sure you could google for it. In a nutshell, MS had a release candidate (or beta) that included the ability to run multiple RDPs off the one machine, but they didn't release it in the final SP. Thanx. I seem to hazily recall using that years ago. However, I am also interested in a more general solution. How do you people make several users access your BSD/Solaris/GnuStep/etc. virtual machines? Is "remote desktop" the only way? -- Cheerio, Klistvud http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Certifiable Loonix User #481801 Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1297517385.5267.0@compax
Re: Networking trouble after recent upgrade in Sid
Hi Shawn, > what did your old interfaces file look like? might look at resolv.conf as > well. i'm not sure what trouble shooting you went through, so it might be > useful to post your iptables config. Here's my old interfaces file where I statically brought up eth0: # This file describes the network interfaces available on your system # and how to activate them. For more information, see interfaces(5). # The loopback network interface auto lo iface lo inet loopback # The primary network interface allow-hotplug eth0 #iface eth0 inet dhcp iface eth0 inet static address 192.168.0.100 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 192.168.0.255 gateway 192.168.0.1 dns-domain gnu-orleans.org After the upgrade, eth0 no longer wound up with 192.168.0.100. Also, even after I went back to the default DHCP-using settings, I still don't get a working address after reboot until I run dhclient by hand. The netgear router is back to its default DHCP behavior, and the iMac attached to the same router gets its address just fine. Should my interfaces entry for eth0 start with "auto eth0" rather than "allow-hotplug eth0"? From googling, I've found statements that the way to get dhclient to run on every boot is with the "auto" keyword. Thanks, David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/AANLkTi=7zs-l164saxpy9jgdmysd9eynh1m8mdxro...@mail.gmail.com
Re: [OT] E-mail formatting (was: Squeeze how to use networked printer?)
On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 12:51:02 + (UTC) Camaleón wrote: Hello Camaleón, > I would try it if I can but I am not receiving e-mails from this list > to my Gmail account. Does anyone know how to request to this mailing > list server a message? It won't help; Google won't echo your mails back to you when you post to a mailing list. They appear in the "All Mail" folder, but never in the inbox. Google call it a feature. Nigh on everyone else calls it a bug. Google will not alter this behaviour. For that reason (amongst others) it is as well to remember that gmail != email. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent" Never much liked playing there anyway Banned From The Roxy - Crass signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Multimedia Lenny is History!
On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 04:37:09 +0100, Manon Metten wrote: (...) > I uploaded all files via WeTransfer using the following email address, I > specially created for that purpose: debmu...@gmail.com The password is: > lennyfiles > > So if you're, like me, still using lenny and you need some of the > debian-multimedia > files, you can download the entire 379MB archive there. Then simply > instal them using dpkg. (...) Archived files seem to be already available under some of D-M mirrors, the problem is that no more new/updated packages will hit D-M for lenny users ;-( Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.02.12.13.07...@gmail.com
Re: route table behind router
On Fri, 11 Feb 2011 19:16:56 -0800, Mike McClain wrote: > On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 12:57:17PM +, Camale?n wrote: >> >> Some cable providers (at least in Spain) tweak their cable modems to >> allow only one computer to browse the web (by means of "filters" that >> restrict the access to only one MAC address). To avoid this, there are >> routers that can "clone" the MAC address so other computers in the >> network can access the web. > > Thanks for the idea, I'll try to figure out how to test that. Mike That should be easy to test. Disconnect from the router any other computer you have in the network and plug just the Debian box. Power cycle the cable modem and test what happens. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.02.12.12.54...@gmail.com
Re: How to make a VM accessible to all users
Hi, Klistvud wrote: Howdie, fellow Debianites! I have a qemu-kvm virtual machine -- a virtual Windows XP install -- occasionally running inside my Squeeze and I was wondering: what's the best way for letting all users of the computer access the same instance of the VM (they each have a separate account inside the Windows VM)? Until now, I had each user launch her/his own instance, which is, as you can imagine, somewhat resource-wasteful. With XP, there was a method that allowed you to have multiple concurrent RDP sessions -- if that fix still works, I'm sure you could google for it. In a nutshell, MS had a release candidate (or beta) that included the ability to run multiple RDPs off the one machine, but they didn't release it in the final SP. -- Kind Regards AndrewM Andrew McGlashan Broadband Solutions now including VoIP -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d568335.3020...@affinityvision.com.au
Re: Hardware needed for home network
On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 02:21:30PM -0600, Jason Hsu wrote: > On Fri, 11 Feb 2011 12:17:24 -0800 > David Christensen wrote: > > > > 3. Netgear fast Ethernet (red) and Gigabit (green and orange) switches > > with normal/ cross-over auto-sensing. > > > What are the differences among a switch, hub, and router? I know that they > are used in networking, but I don't understand what setups they are > appropriate for. > You're asking a lot of good, but basic, questions. I think you might be better off using a store-bought router (with firewall capabilities) so that you can be fairly certain of securing your home network. Then experiment with creating your own firewall within your LAN. Learn how to set it up, learn how to test it using nmap and other tools. I'd just hate to see you mess it up and end up with your LAN open to the internet. -Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110212125437.gb21...@aurora.owens.net
Re: [OT] E-mail formatting (was: Squeeze how to use networked printer?)
On Fri, 11 Feb 2011 19:02:14 -0500, Tom H wrote: > On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 11:57 AM, Camaleón wrote: >>> Take a look at this thread in the archives. >>> >>> You changed the subject and are using gmail but it's still threaded. >> >> Sure! But that's just becasue I ditched Gmail's webmail interface in >> favor of a more user-friendly nntp newsreader and so I am not bitten by >> Gmail's strange features ;-) > > I'll take your word for it (I'm tempted to change the subject just to > test but don't really want to break the thread) and stand corrected! :-) I would try it if I can but I am not receiving e-mails from this list to my Gmail account. Does anyone know how to request to this mailing list server a message? Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.02.12.12.51...@gmail.com
Re: /etc/apt/sources.list
On 12 February 2011 21:10, Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Sb, 12 feb 11, 05:54:55, Tom H wrote: > > On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 5:29 AM, Andrei Popescu > > wrote: > > > On Vi, 11 feb 11, 15:33:30, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > > >> > > >> The testing repositories need not be used either. They are mostly for > when > > >> the version in testing differs from the version in unstable, the > unstable > > >> version can't or shouldn't be force-migrated, and the testing version > needs > > >> updated. In this uncommon case, a version that falls between the one > in > > >> testing and unstable is uploaded to testing-proposed-updates and can > be > > >> migrated. > > > > > > As far as I understand sid/unstable users should always have testing in > > > their sources.lists, since the Release Managers sometimes remove > > > packages from unstable to help testing migration. I can search for the > > > exact reference in case someone is interested. > > > > Yes, please. > > http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2009/03/msg00582.html > > Regards, > Andrei > -- > Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: > http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic > O.K., so now, what I have as a result of 'aptitude update' is this: Bandit:/home/weaver# aptitude update Get:1 http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au unstable Release.gpg [835 B] Ign http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/debian/ unstable/contrib Translation-en Ign http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/debian/ unstable/contrib Translation-en_AU Ign http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/debian/ unstable/main Translation-en Ign http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/debian/ unstable/main Translation-en_AU Ign http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/debian/ unstable/non-free Translation-en Ign http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/debian/ unstable/non-free Translation-en_AU Hit http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au unstable Release E: Release file expired, ignoring http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/debian/dists/unstable/Release (invalid since 9h 53min 14s) This is after reducing my /etc/apt/sources.list down to just the one line for 'unstable'. Should I re-enter the 'testing' security line back in? The standard 'testing' line also? When I run aptitude at the ncurses interface, there's almost nothing in it. Thanks for any time and trouble. Regards, Weaver. -- Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful. — Lucius Annæus Seneca. Terrorism, the new religion.
rtorrent queue
Hello! rTorrent was possible (possibly with external script) configure uTorrent-like queue? As an example: 10 pieces torrents put it, start the first, then after it is finished downloading, start the next, and so the line. I look forward to possible solutions. Thank you! Nikolas Slivka --- () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/537502.66302...@web120603.mail.ne1.yahoo.com
Re: route table behind router
Andrei Popescu a écrit : > On Vi, 11 feb 11, 19:20:40, Mike McClain wrote: >> root@/deb40a:~> wget -v google.com >> --16:28:14-- http://google.com/ >>=> `google.com/index.html' >> Resolving google.com... 74.125.227.20, 74.125.227.16, 74.125.227.17, ... >> Connecting to google.com[74.125.227.20]:80... failed: Connection timed out. >> Connecting to google.com[74.125.227.16]:80... failed: Connection timed out. >> Connecting to google.com[74.125.227.17]:80... failed: Connection timed out. > > Hmm, is the router using PPPoE to connect to your ISP? Try this: > > ifconfig eth0 mtu 1400 MTU issues should only affect "big" packets containing data, not the establishement of the connection. But it is worth the try. Adapt the interface name to the one connected to the router. At this point, I have two ideas : either a problem with TCP connections or specifically with HTTP connections. I would first try to connect to other TCP-based services such as SMTP, POP3, FTP... If it fails too, then the problem is with TCP, likely with some TCP option not supported by the router or the ISP. The usual suspects are window scaling, timestamps, ECN, SACK, which can be enabled or disabled via sysctl variables in /proc/sys/net/ipv4/. Try to enable and disable each of them and see what happens. You can also use tcpdump to capture the packets on the interface while trying to connect. Another useful tool is tcptraceroute, it can help to see where something wrong happens. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d5672e3.3020...@plouf.fr.eu.org
How to make a VM accessible to all users
Howdie, fellow Debianites! I have a qemu-kvm virtual machine -- a virtual Windows XP install -- occasionally running inside my Squeeze and I was wondering: what's the best way for letting all users of the computer access the same instance of the VM (they each have a separate account inside the Windows VM)? Until now, I had each user launch her/his own instance, which is, as you can imagine, somewhat resource-wasteful. TIA -- Happy "squeezing", Klistvud http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Certifiable Loonix User #481801 Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1297511121.18682.0@compax
Re: OT: Small network with 4 switches
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/02/11 06:48, Phillipus Gunawan wrote: > Hi Sluggers, > > I got 4 un-managed switches, 3 (sw1, sw2, sw3) in the same room for > workstations, and 1 (sw4) in the server room (debian-samba) > Currently I link those 3 switches to the 1 in the server. > Those switches are 4 ports, please do not ask why the company insist of using > them (money talk...) > > Out of curiosity for network-savvy-out-there, would it better if I link sw3 > -> > sw2 -> sw1 -> sw4 > > or, better to leave as my config: sw1 -> sw4, sw2 -> sw4, sw3 -> sw4 > > It just bothering me to know which one is better... Yo, as you said their are unmanaged, so no problems with spanning tree. I assume all ports on all switches have the same nominated transfer rates. Ideal solution would be something with spanning tree and redundant paths but in your situation I would do (as you suggested): /sw1 sw4-sw2 \sw3 and I suggest buying at least 1 spare switch for any case. In this case you've got shortest route to resources at sw4, if it's not possible try to avoid as much as you can sw4sw1sw2sw3 cause in this situation traffic from all machines have to pass sw1, so issues like load, etc and the most important the path is the lontgest one with addition of single point of failure on whole path and this should be avoided (almost at any cost :-) ). As it can cause huge problems if sw1 will die or so. Hopefully that's helped (at least a bit). - -- |_|0|_| | |_|_|0| "Heghlu'Meh QaQ jajVam" | |0|0|0| kuLa - | gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys 0xC100B4CA -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJNVnAJAAoJEOqHloDBALTKojYH/A+rnoc0WlKugBiF8KuO2z/Y sQiOEmK40dNQtfRW0q0NyhuQ/F58MN53pLBEafZvJHKKgUnG+Fo/CtRMJOuMVqf0 Im8Nsba5/kdoF67Q01lqWObq/NL2aTA82rxIqA+gQPGTuM28ef4LMe/8+1TKvs7l rmIiqYHy14ETJj8uNXvejq7HzNkz2layIqCcadejcw79W27q29WkpaF93Tknz3f5 OAzeU1ImDAal8mtq0w/xgtgpo0y8qxtwZ4uiBokx/ld+euh37JOUSf5n02bkY9q/ blKghZK2Ghih4A/GRh4w/ps0rpavNVgAMgBUVW/qDsNRsLExhklVFWt18em+auw= =49vW -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d567009@kulisz.net
Re: Where is the display poweroff standby set?
On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 12:49:36PM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Sb, 12 feb 11, 00:17:12, Roger Leigh wrote: > > > > Any ideas on what I'm missing here? There must be some other > > setting I'm overlooking, only I haven't come across it in 14 > > years of using Debian! > > ,[ /etc/X11/xorg.conf ] > | Section "Serverflags" > | Option "BlankTime" "0" > | Option "StandbyTime" "10" > | Option "SuspendTime" "20" > | Option "OffTime" "30" > | EndSection > ` > > I think some (all?) can also be configured with xset(1). Thanks, I think that was the issue. There was a 600s timeout set reported by xset -q, which was cleared with "xset -dpms; xset s 0 0". It's rather odd that neither the GNOME power management settings, nor the screensaver settings allow one to set this (or set it for you). I'm sure this used to be the case. (I checked with xscreensaver, and this does allow these settings to be configured, and it does actually set them, since I can see with xset that they have changed.) Looks like a fairly stupid regression IMO, but like most of GNOME it was probably too complicated for "granny" so they removed it. I'll be off to Xfce 4.8 once it hits unstable. Thanks again, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linux http://people.debian.org/~rleigh/ `. `' Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gutenprint.sourceforge.net/ `-GPG Public Key: 0x25BFB848 Please GPG sign your mail. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: /etc/apt/sources.list
On Sb, 12 feb 11, 05:54:55, Tom H wrote: > On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 5:29 AM, Andrei Popescu > wrote: > > On Vi, 11 feb 11, 15:33:30, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > >> > >> The testing repositories need not be used either. They are mostly for when > >> the version in testing differs from the version in unstable, the unstable > >> version can't or shouldn't be force-migrated, and the testing version needs > >> updated. In this uncommon case, a version that falls between the one in > >> testing and unstable is uploaded to testing-proposed-updates and can be > >> migrated. > > > > As far as I understand sid/unstable users should always have testing in > > their sources.lists, since the Release Managers sometimes remove > > packages from unstable to help testing migration. I can search for the > > exact reference in case someone is interested. > > Yes, please. http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2009/03/msg00582.html Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: /etc/apt/sources.list
In <20110212102917.GK18225@think.homelan>, Andrei Popescu wrote: >On Vi, 11 feb 11, 15:33:30, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: >> The testing repositories need not be used either. They are mostly for >> when the version in testing differs from the version in unstable, the >> unstable version can't or shouldn't be force-migrated, and the testing >> version needs updated. In this uncommon case, a version that falls >> between the one in testing and unstable is uploaded to >> testing-proposed-updates and can be migrated. > >As far as I understand sid/unstable users should always have testing in >their sources.lists, since the Release Managers sometimes remove >packages from unstable to help testing migration. I can search for the >exact reference in case someone is interested. True enough. Sometimes packages are uninstallable due to missing dependencies in unstable. This is much rarer with testing enabled, since the automatic processes that do most of the testing management try to prevent any package from becoming uninstallable. Unless you are doing something to alter the default APT priorities, a system with testing and unstable in sources.list will get the vast majority of packages from unstable. They should also get -security, -updates, -proposed- updates, and -backports style upgrades from the direct uploads to unstable, so the testing versions of those repositories are unneeded. It is possible, but uncommon, that you might get a package from testing, be unable to upgrade to the package in unstable, but be able to fix a security issue due to an upgrade in testing-security or testing-proposed-updates; having the testing and testing-* repositories listed won't do any harm, except for making apt-get update take a bit longer. Depending on how/if/when CUT is implemented, the testing-* repositories might get a lot more use, but right now they aren't usually populated with much. most upgrades to testing go through unstable first. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. b...@iguanasuicide.net ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.net/\_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: /etc/apt/sources.list
On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 5:29 AM, Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Vi, 11 feb 11, 15:33:30, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: >> >> The testing repositories need not be used either. They are mostly for when >> the version in testing differs from the version in unstable, the unstable >> version can't or shouldn't be force-migrated, and the testing version needs >> updated. In this uncommon case, a version that falls between the one in >> testing and unstable is uploaded to testing-proposed-updates and can be >> migrated. > > As far as I understand sid/unstable users should always have testing in > their sources.lists, since the Release Managers sometimes remove > packages from unstable to help testing migration. I can search for the > exact reference in case someone is interested. Yes, please. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktinfkwb3i9tk4u4tet9aefnkirb+hpv+vdzbv...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Networking trouble after recent upgrade in Sid
On Sb, 12 feb 11, 03:23:16, David Bruce wrote: > > With a aptitude safe-upgrade and reboot today, my setup broke. I'm no > network expert, but it appears that eth0 is no longer getting an IPv4 > address on boot: Purge network-manager? Could you post the relevant part of /var/log/aptitude ? Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Networking trouble after recent upgrade in Sid
On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 4:55 AM, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > In , David Bruce > wrote: >>>From /etc/network/interfaces: --- >> >># The primary network interface >>allow-hotplug eth0 >>iface eth0 inet dhcp >> >>So now, on bootup my web browser won't connect. > > Normally, if you want an interface started on boot, you should use: > auto eth0 > instead of: > allow-hotplug eth0 Both allow-hotplug and allow-auto should bring up eth0 at boot unless it's managed by network manager as you say below (I'm not familiar with wicd or ifplugd). > Do you ifplugd, network-manager, or wicd? Those are the main things I can > think of that would start an allow-hotplug interface. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktikgyy0xz6nhxedzaocmxbhhgp3apemxju2fj...@mail.gmail.com
