When installing from a CD image How to Gain Internet Access using a router and What is to Enter as Proxy information?

2011-04-17 Thread Varuna Seneviratna
I am trying to install from a CD image of 180MB, On the way I am asked to
select a Mirror and also a proxy, I am Using a router to connect to the
Internet. I  selected a mirror and left the proxy information blank.The
Installation process displays a message that says unable to gain Internet
connection and that only a basic Debian System can be installed.How will I
be able to gain Internet connection.What is the proxy information that I
should Enter

Varuna


Re: changing my e-mail address

2011-04-17 Thread sal migondis
> And me? A Kiwi living in Australia, a Brit??

lol ..

Drunk as I was, I did smell something fishy.. all apologies, mate..

So now we have a Prisoner of his Majesty siding with the poms..?

What is the world coming to..?

> No need to be insulting!

:-)

> The OP got so many appropriate answers they would have choked an elephant.
> Now what?

Time for bed here in NYC..

> Regards,

Same..

Sal.


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Clang include paths

2011-04-17 Thread Robert Blair Mason Jr.
I'm running a fresh install of debian-testing on an amd64 laptop.  I do
lots of C++ compiling, and prefer clang's error messages to g++'s
cryptic gobbledygook.  After installing clang, I was surprised to find
that nothing compiled.  Stepping back, I tried to compile hello world:

$ clang++ test.cpp
test.cpp:1:10: fatal error: 'iostream' file not found
#include 
 ^
1 diagnostic generated.

I checked that headers were installed (they were).  However, specifying
include directories on the command line worked:

$ clang++ -I/usr/include/c++/4.5.2
-I/usr/include/c++/4.5.2/x86_64-linux-gnu test.cpp

compiles as expected.

According to the documentation, the include path is hard coded in a
source file, and the only way to *not* have to specify the full include
path on the command line is to compile from source.

My question is, is this a bug?  If so, would it be fixed at the package
level or upstream?  In the meantime, I can compile the compiler from
source.  Also, why don't compilers have files like /etc/clang.conf that
allow you to set include paths more flexibly?

Thanks


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Re: Internet Connection Speed Test

2011-04-17 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Ron Johnson put forth on 4/17/2011 10:16 PM:
> 
> "Speedtest.net requires at least version 9 of Flash. Please update your
> client."

I've been greedily keeping these b/w testing sites to myself for many
many years, but I'm in a sharing mood.  Use the server nearest you.

http://ndt-202.net.berkeley.edu:7123/
http://speedtest.umflint.edu/
http://nitro.ucsc.edu/
http://jlab4.jlab.org:7123/
http://web100.rit.edu:7123/
http://ndt.anl.gov/
http://www.switch.ch/network/tools/ndt/

Requirement:  browser with JAVA support

Background on the Web100 project:
http://www.web100.org/

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Re: arbitrary disk name assignment affects dump/restore

2011-04-17 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Andrei Popescu put forth on 4/17/2011 3:12 AM:

> /dev/disk/by-id/
> /dev/disk/by-label/ # assuming you defined labels
> /dev/disk/by-path/
> /dev/disk/by-uuid/
> 
> I prefer labels since they can be set to something meaningful/mnemonic.

Yes, I use labels for partitions as well, more for organizational
reasons than addressing though, for example:

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  10 Jan 18 23:38 boot -> ../../sda1
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  10 Jan 18 23:38 home -> ../../sda6
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  10 Jan 18 23:38 root -> ../../sda2
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  10 Jan 18 23:38 samba -> ../../sda7

Although to be honest, I never address them by label when running disk
or filesystem utilities, mostly due to RSI concerns, for instance:

xfs_info /dev/sda7

is much easier on the fingers than

xfs_info /dev/disk/by-label/samba

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Gdm login failing "I could not start your session"

2011-04-17 Thread dbu . sat . nobrainer
How can I restore full gnome login? Only a gnome-failsafe session
works now.

/var/log/gdm/:0.log shows:
FATAL: Module fbcon not found
SELinux disabled on system, no enabling in X

$HOME/.xsession-errors shows:
/etc/gdm/Xsession: Beginning session setup...
load s .profile
/etc/gdm/Xsession: Executing gnome-session failed, will try to run 
x-terminal-emulator

I may have deleted files accidentally (sudo-ed too fast). But I've already 
upgraded lenny to squeeze and then re-installed many gnome packages. The 
problem remains.

Thanks for your help.

S. Taylor


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Re: Internet Connection Speed Test

2011-04-17 Thread Ron Johnson


"Speedtest.net requires at least version 9 of Flash. Please update your
client."

On 04/17/2011 01:37 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote:

You can do apt-get lynx -r  as root then try: lynx
http://www.speedtest.net/.  The statistics you need should then
appear on the screen for you to examine.On Sun, 17 Apr 2011, Wayne Topa
wrote:



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Re: changing my e-mail address

2011-04-17 Thread Heddle Weaver
On 18 April 2011 11:50, sal migondis  wrote:

> On Sunday 17 April 2011 14:40:46 Pierre Frenkiel wrote:
> >> On Sun, 17 Apr 2011, Osamu Aoki wrote:
> > > ...
> >>
> >> Hi Osamu,
> >> thank you for taking time to write a long answer,
> >> Nonetheless, there is a basic misunderstanding of my post:for me, asking
> >> a question is not equivalent to complaining!
>
> >>  PS: what bothers me is that I wrote several times to
> >> listow...@lists.debian.org,
> >> for a problem with bounces and for the present question,
> >> and never got any answer, although they say:
> >> You are welcome to contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
> >> it seems that this address is just managed by a robot... 
>
> > That is definitely complaining.
>
> Oh yeah... care to explain why...??
>
> He is saying that 'it bothers him'.. would it not bother _you_, Ms. Lisi,
> if _you_ wrote to the list owner and got no reply..??? The OP wastes
> perhaps ten minutes sending a polite request to the list owner and
> he never gets a reply.. On the face of it, Mr. Frankiel is merely stating
> that he would have preferred to get some kind of answer. Anything
> wrong with that..?
>
> The OP also states one is 'welcome to contact listmas...@lists.debian.org'
> and that he suspects that this address is managed by a bot.
>
> Hell.. who knows..
>

Big  of a whole lot of totally immaterial, immature garbage.
Two of them?
Strike me pink!

And me? A Kiwi living in Australia, a Brit??
No need to be insulting!
The OP got so many appropriate answers they would have choked an elephant.
Now what?
Regards,

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Re: Procmailrc question

2011-04-17 Thread Paul E Condon
Your two emails were a help, but opened up some new questions:
Executing install-mh in an xterm failed because install-mh was not
found.  I used find /usr -name 'install-mh' and found *two*
versions. One was in /usr/bin/mh . I take this to be the modern
equivalent of the old /usr/local/nmh/bin. So it appears that install-mh
does something else than installing nmh software somewhere in /usr.
Seeing the swap of mh and bin and the dropping of local, I looked for
the modern analog of /usr/local/nmh/lib at /usr/lib/mh and it is there.
But I foolishly ran install-mh, before looking for its man page. I think
I should not have run it, at least not until I have made more progress
on reviving my old setup. 

I have been looking at mh as a possible alternative to my, more
'mainstream', but non-functioning, email system. And I think I will
look at it seriously, but not until later. I can't see trying to
bring up two different email systems concurrently. Both trying to 
deliver the same email arriving via fetchmail and both looking to 
feed my outgoing emails to exim4, or maybe one to exim4 and the other
to something else. 

I think I would still like to learn what the Debianly correct PATH 
definition is from someone who has a fetchmail/exim4/procmail/mutt
system running in wheezy, and can simply open up his/her .procmailrc
and copy that line into an email. In this there is too much verbiage
about how I can do whatever I want, and not enough explanation of
what is a known solution to a common problem. But even in how-tos 
that say they are specifically for Debian there are instructions
for setup a .forward file to run procmail and I know that is not
part of the Debian way.


On 20110417_175932, Jude DaShiell wrote:
> In debian dpkg-reconfigure nmh may do what install-nmh does for non-debian 
> systems.  I read up on nmh from the nmh website.On Sun, 17 Apr 2011, Paul 
> E Condon wrote:
> 
> > I once had my email working nicely, but over the last few years
> > the setup has decayed. I am now running wheezy with fetchmail to
> > get email from my ISP, exim4 to send outgoing email to my ISP, and
> > do other things locally, and procmail running in my $home. I have
> > no interest in setting up system-wide (i.e. several users) mail
> > delivery since I am the only user of email here. I have been keeping
> > the same .procmailrc file from well before the transition from
> > exim3 to exim4, making ad hoc kludge changes only when absolutely
> > forced to, and largely without a clue as to what I was doing.
> > 
> > I once had spamassassin working, but for a long while it has not
> > been working. Certainly there has been no evidence of it working
> > since I installed xfce under wheezy. Today I noticed in my
> > .procmailrc the following line, which is left over from long ago:
> > 
> > PATH=/usr/local/nmh/lib:/usr/local/nmh/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin
> > 
> > This line is there for the benefit of the scripting that inplements
> > the recipes that follow. But this is wrong for my wheezy!!! In
> > particular, everything in /usr was put there by installing wheezy with
> > a squeeze business-card CD followed by debian package installs using
> > aptitude pointing to ftp.us.debian.org/debian/. Aptitude says that the
> > package nmh is installed. But there is no directory /usr/local/nmh/ on
> > the computer. Sometime in the past the organization of Debian /usr
> > transitioned from having that directory to not have it. It's been long
> > enough that it may have gone thru several transitions while I was
> > confused and inattentive (because of poor access to emails, perhaps)
> > 
> > Anyway, I think I need a PATH statement that is appropriate for
> > Debian wheezy before I can do any meaningful debugging. 
> > 
> > Can someone who is running a single user Wheezy system using single
> > user .procmailrc and spamassassin (or spamc/spamd) please post a copy
> > of the PATH statement is a working setup? 
> > 
> > As an added goody, please tell me where you got the information.
> > Did it get installed automagically by a Debian package? Or what?
> > 
> > TIA
> > 
> 
> 
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Re: changing my e-mail address

2011-04-17 Thread sal migondis
On Sunday 17 April 2011 14:40:46 Pierre Frenkiel wrote:
>> On Sun, 17 Apr 2011, Osamu Aoki wrote:
> > ...
>>
>> Hi Osamu,
>> thank you for taking time to write a long answer,
>> Nonetheless, there is a basic misunderstanding of my post:for me, asking
>> a question is not equivalent to complaining!

>>  PS: what bothers me is that I wrote several times to
>> listow...@lists.debian.org,
>> for a problem with bounces and for the present question,
>> and never got any answer, although they say:
>> You are welcome to contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
>> it seems that this address is just managed by a robot... 

> That is definitely complaining.

Oh yeah... care to explain why...??

He is saying that 'it bothers him'.. would it not bother _you_, Ms. Lisi,
if _you_ wrote to the list owner and got no reply..??? The OP wastes
perhaps ten minutes sending a polite request to the list owner and
he never gets a reply.. On the face of it, Mr. Frankiel is merely stating
that he would have preferred to get some kind of answer. Anything
wrong with that..?

The OP also states one is 'welcome to contact listmas...@lists.debian.org'
and that he suspects that this address is managed by a bot.

Hell.. who knows..

Honestly, I don't see anything damning in what Mr. Frankiel wrote. As
far as I can tell, you're the only one complaining together with the other
two whining Brits.

Oops.. Sorry..sorry..  sorry.. I didn't mean to be offensive, I meant the
other two _Englishmen_, since you 'gitting', 'buggering' folks appear to
believe you are so uniquely special and so vastly superior to everybody
else.

Ms. Lisi, please face the facts.. as usual you are the one who's bitching.
Anything wrong with your life that you should jump on every opportunity
to pick on an honest first time poster and try setting up some kind of
lynching party..?

Sit tight Ms. Lisi.. The good news is that I have some experience helping
out disturbed older dames.. Seriously, there is a worrying trend about
your posts.. I think you need help.

Maybe I could help you... :-)

> Moreover it is complaining that busy people
> had not chosen to answer a trivial question

Ah.. the usual trick.. now we're being politically correct, right.??
suggesting the OP is such a despicable ungrateful so and so.. and
all the time Mr. Frankiel never said any such thing..  and yet you
are trying to isolate him by making him look terrible. How clever
of you Ms. Lisi...! And how kind...!

Oh and yes, we always tend to forget how non-trivial _your_
questions to this list have been for as long as we can remember.

Let's now create an English-English locale.. just for our Lisi... Now
wasn't _that_ a clever question.. ;-)

> We all make stupid mistakes but a) in my experience most
> people apologise for them and b) most people do not then go
> on to reply condescendingly to one of the most knowledgeable
> people on this list.

Ah for f*ck's bloody sake..

Asamu Aoki has the nerve to write in his rather lamentable
English that 'If you are wondering what I am talking as case
1 and 2, please learn how to use mail client.  I understand it
is a bit obscure for novice PC user.'

If anything, what's clearly obscure to any native speaker
of English is Mr. AA's wording - LOL.

But all the same I get the general idea. And I find his remarks
are not just condescending, they are downright _insulting_ ...!!!

So much so that I would not blame Mr. Frankiel for hopping
the next plane to Fukushima and kicking Mr. Oaki's insolent
ass..!

Mr. Osamu, how the hell do you know that Pierre Frankiel is
a 'novice PC user'..?? Let me answer that for you.. _you do
not_.. And of course you are not totally stupid and you know
that as well.

So, why are you being dishonest?

And how does being an 'advanced PC user' relate to a clear
understanding of how mailing lists work in the first place..?
That's not user knowledge Mr. Osamu.. being so knowledgeable,
you should know that this is administrator stuff..

What remarkable achievements grant you, Mr. Oaki
permission to treat the OP like he was some kind of
half-evolved monkey...?

I for one, would love to hear your apologies..

So tell us now dizzy Miss Lizzy, who the hell is exhibiting a
condescending attitude..?? Me, the OP, Oaki..?

Or you possibly...?

I can't believe you're for real, Ms. Lisi..  Someone must be
paying you to turn this forum into a shambles.

Sal.


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Re: How to automate the upgrade of openssh-server?

2011-04-17 Thread Hilco Wijbenga
2011/4/17 Bjørn Michelsen :
> On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 05:49:08PM -0700, Hilco Wijbenga wrote:
> It's possible to pass these options to apt, for instance
>
>  apt-get -o Dpkg::Options::="--force-confold" upgrade

Thanks!


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Re: How to automate the upgrade of openssh-server?

2011-04-17 Thread Bjørn Michelsen
On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 05:49:08PM -0700, Hilco Wijbenga wrote:

Hey there,

> I'm trying to automate the setup of an Ubuntu Server 10.04 64bit
> system. I am unable to run apt-get upgrade sucessfully (i.e. without
> manual intervention). Every time it blocks because of openssh-server
> (and portmap):
> 
> Setting up openssh-server (1:5.3p1-3ubuntu6) ...
> 
> Configuration file `/etc/init/ssh.conf'
>  ==> Modified (by you or by a script) since installation.
>  ==> Package distributor has shipped an updated version.
>   What would you like to do about it ?  Your options are:
>Y or I  : install the package maintainer's version
>N or O  : keep your currently-installed version
>  D : show the differences between the versions
>  Z : background this process to examine the situation
>  The default action is to keep your current version.
> *** ssh.conf (Y/I/N/O/D/Z) [default=N] ?
> 
> I tried '-y' and '--force-yes'. I tried using aptitude instead of
> apt-get. I tried aptitude's safe-upgrade. I tried setting debconf to
> Noninteractive. Nothing seems to make any difference. How do I make
> sure the upgrade continues automatically?

See the dpkg manual (man dpkg), specifically:

  confnew: If a conffile has been modified  always  install
  the   new   version   without   prompting,   unless   the
  --force-confdef is also  specified,  in  which  case  the
  default action is preferred.

  confold:  If a conffile has been modified always keep the
  old version without prompting, unless the --force-confdef
  is  also  specified,  in which case the default action is
  preferred.

  confdef: If a conffile has been  modified  always  choose
  the default action. If there is no default action it will
  stop  to  ask  the   user   unless   --force-confnew   or
  --force-confold is also been given, in which case it will
  use that to decide the final action.

It's possible to pass these options to apt, for instance

  apt-get -o Dpkg::Options::="--force-confold" upgrade


Hope that solves your problem.

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Re: Re: changing my e-mail address

2011-04-17 Thread Heddle Weaver
On 18 April 2011 06:41, Jonathan Matthews  wrote:

> On 17 April 2011 21:19, PMA  wrote:
> > Dear List,
> >
> > My cat, much enjoying this thread, would like to know:
> > "What please, referencing particular persons, is a 'git'?"
>
> Tell it to have a look at
> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=git
> It's a predominately British insult.
>

But it works in any language.
Even the American dialect!
Hello, Ron.
Regards,

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How to automate the upgrade of openssh-server?

2011-04-17 Thread Hilco Wijbenga
Hi all,

I'm trying to automate the setup of an Ubuntu Server 10.04 64bit
system. I am unable to run apt-get upgrade sucessfully (i.e. without
manual intervention). Every time it blocks because of openssh-server
(and portmap):

Setting up openssh-server (1:5.3p1-3ubuntu6) ...

Configuration file `/etc/init/ssh.conf'
 ==> Modified (by you or by a script) since installation.
 ==> Package distributor has shipped an updated version.
  What would you like to do about it ?  Your options are:
   Y or I  : install the package maintainer's version
   N or O  : keep your currently-installed version
 D : show the differences between the versions
 Z : background this process to examine the situation
 The default action is to keep your current version.
*** ssh.conf (Y/I/N/O/D/Z) [default=N] ?

I tried '-y' and '--force-yes'. I tried using aptitude instead of
apt-get. I tried aptitude's safe-upgrade. I tried setting debconf to
Noninteractive. Nothing seems to make any difference. How do I make
sure the upgrade continues automatically?

Cheers,
Hilco


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Re: Much Ado About Nothing [was: changing my e-mail address]

2011-04-17 Thread Peter Beck
On Sun, 2011-04-17 at 18:51 +0200, Klistvud wrote: 
> Dne, 17. 04. 2011 16:19:30 je sal migondis napisal(a):
> 
> > 
> > Yeah, right.. Imagine for a second the OP is subscribed
> > to .. TEN.. TWENTY.. different debian mailing lists...

IMHO this is a subscriber issuei would create a rule on my own
server which redirects this address. Why should the debian list care
about our personal issues ? (changing the address is imho a personal
issue and not related to the list -  If I order snail mail news and I
change my address, I'll also need to inform them that my address has
changed, otherwise I won't get further mailing)

What about Redirecting the old address, done ? or creating a procmail /
sieve rule to redirect ?

But maybe I'm wrong with that view..

cheers
Peter




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Re: Procmailrc question

2011-04-17 Thread Rob Owens
On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 03:38:21PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote:
> I once had my email working nicely, but over the last few years
> the setup has decayed. I am now running wheezy with fetchmail to
> get email from my ISP, exim4 to send outgoing email to my ISP, and
> do other things locally, and procmail running in my $home. I have
> no interest in setting up system-wide (i.e. several users) mail
> delivery since I am the only user of email here. I have been keeping
> the same .procmailrc file from well before the transition from
> exim3 to exim4, making ad hoc kludge changes only when absolutely
> forced to, and largely without a clue as to what I was doing.
> 
> I once had spamassassin working, but for a long while it has not
> been working. Certainly there has been no evidence of it working
> since I installed xfce under wheezy. Today I noticed in my
> .procmailrc the following line, which is left over from long ago:
> 
> PATH=/usr/local/nmh/lib:/usr/local/nmh/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin
> 
> This line is there for the benefit of the scripting that inplements
> the recipes that follow. But this is wrong for my wheezy!!! In
> particular, everything in /usr was put there by installing wheezy with
> a squeeze business-card CD followed by debian package installs using
> aptitude pointing to ftp.us.debian.org/debian/. Aptitude says that the
> package nmh is installed. But there is no directory /usr/local/nmh/ on
> the computer. Sometime in the past the organization of Debian /usr
> transitioned from having that directory to not have it. It's been long
> enough that it may have gone thru several transitions while I was
> confused and inattentive (because of poor access to emails, perhaps)
> 
> Anyway, I think I need a PATH statement that is appropriate for
> Debian wheezy before I can do any meaningful debugging. 
> 
> Can someone who is running a single user Wheezy system using single
> user .procmailrc and spamassassin (or spamc/spamd) please post a copy
> of the PATH statement is a working setup? 
> 
This is my PATH statement, which worked under Lenny and still works in
Squeeze.  I haven't tried Wheezy.  I'm using mbox for my mail format.
"mbox" is also my default message location.

Heck, I'll include most of my .procmailrc for you:

PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin
HOME=/home/rob
MAILDIR=$HOME/Mail
DEFAULT=$MAILDIR/mbox
LOGFILE=$MAILDIR/.procmaillog

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:0:
* ^Subject:.*SPAM
/dev/null

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:0fw
| /usr/bin/bogofilter -uep
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* ^X-Bogosity: Spam, tests=bogofilter
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2011-04-17 Thread sal migondis
Jonathan Matthews  jpluscplusm.com> writes:

> On 16 April 2011 18:39, Pierre Frenkiel:
> > On Sat, 16 Apr 2011, Lisi wrote:

> >> Have you tried this?  You don't mention it.
> >
> >  And did you read my post?
> >  The question was not
> > "how to unsubcribe?",
> > but
> > "how to modify my address without doing unsubscribe/subcsribe?"
>
> What difference do you think there is between those 2 operations?
> Hint: none at all.

'Hint' indeed...! Patronizing the OP, dear Jonathan, Sah..??

> >  It's curious that I got 5 replys, all about the PS, but
> >  not a single answer to my question !
>
> Your question was boring

Heh..? What's 'boring' about it..?

> as you self-answered in your original mail.
> Just do the damn unsubscribe/subscribe dance. If it causes
> you problems, please reconsider the wisdom of owning a
> complex bit of kit like your computer.

Keep patronizing, pal.. quite the English gentleman, heh..?

> Also, learn how to respond to people trying to help you with your
> questions whilst /not/ sounding like a git.

A what?

> If this is a secondary-language thing,

Definitely.. In this context, I have not clue what a 'git' is.

> hence you didn't otherwise realise it:

Poor chap.. but I forgive him.. he's only one of them
little greasy foreigners, you know.

What a guy..!

> your email, above, made you sound like a git.

And would _you_ stop 'gitting' people, I mean NOW. Maybe what
you need is a specific debian_en list where the English can debate
all that stuff that is not 'boring' with people of the same breed.
Fascinating subjects like Kate Piddleton and bonnie Prince Harry..
and how we must urgently create an 'English English' locale, and
so forth..

> Stop that.

Yeah, well same as the other two Brits who added their arrogant
attitude to this thread, maybe you need to wake up and realize
you have lost your bloody empire. In the future, when posting to
debian-user, try to stick with the English language instead of using
your tiny province's peculiar idiolect.

> HTH,

Sure does.. Plonk!

No, I'm kidding.. Together with Heddle Weaver (?) and Lisi (?) you
make up such a delightful bunch of clowns that you're kinda fun after
all.. Ya'll sound like something out of Monty Python's Flying Circus and
even when we don't quite understand all the funny words, we all love
it.

Keep posting..!

Sal.

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 -- Attributed to Sir Winston Churchill


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Re: Procmailrc question

2011-04-17 Thread Jude DaShiell
In debian dpkg-reconfigure nmh may do what install-nmh does for non-debian 
systems.  I read up on nmh from the nmh website.On Sun, 17 Apr 2011, Paul 
E Condon wrote:

> I once had my email working nicely, but over the last few years
> the setup has decayed. I am now running wheezy with fetchmail to
> get email from my ISP, exim4 to send outgoing email to my ISP, and
> do other things locally, and procmail running in my $home. I have
> no interest in setting up system-wide (i.e. several users) mail
> delivery since I am the only user of email here. I have been keeping
> the same .procmailrc file from well before the transition from
> exim3 to exim4, making ad hoc kludge changes only when absolutely
> forced to, and largely without a clue as to what I was doing.
> 
> I once had spamassassin working, but for a long while it has not
> been working. Certainly there has been no evidence of it working
> since I installed xfce under wheezy. Today I noticed in my
> .procmailrc the following line, which is left over from long ago:
> 
> PATH=/usr/local/nmh/lib:/usr/local/nmh/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin
> 
> This line is there for the benefit of the scripting that inplements
> the recipes that follow. But this is wrong for my wheezy!!! In
> particular, everything in /usr was put there by installing wheezy with
> a squeeze business-card CD followed by debian package installs using
> aptitude pointing to ftp.us.debian.org/debian/. Aptitude says that the
> package nmh is installed. But there is no directory /usr/local/nmh/ on
> the computer. Sometime in the past the organization of Debian /usr
> transitioned from having that directory to not have it. It's been long
> enough that it may have gone thru several transitions while I was
> confused and inattentive (because of poor access to emails, perhaps)
> 
> Anyway, I think I need a PATH statement that is appropriate for
> Debian wheezy before I can do any meaningful debugging. 
> 
> Can someone who is running a single user Wheezy system using single
> user .procmailrc and spamassassin (or spamc/spamd) please post a copy
> of the PATH statement is a working setup? 
> 
> As an added goody, please tell me where you got the information.
> Did it get installed automagically by a Debian package? Or what?
> 
> TIA
> 



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Re: Procmailrc question

2011-04-17 Thread Jude DaShiell
If you runn install-nmh, then nmh will make the directories it needs and 
perhaps start working.  I use nmh and like it better than mbox because 
when malware hits a message that message with offending garbage can be 
sacrificed without the loss of your entire collection of messages.

Hope this helps.On Sun, 17 Apr 2011, Paul E Condon wrote:

> I once had my email working nicely, but over the last few years
> the setup has decayed. I am now running wheezy with fetchmail to
> get email from my ISP, exim4 to send outgoing email to my ISP, and
> do other things locally, and procmail running in my $home. I have
> no interest in setting up system-wide (i.e. several users) mail
> delivery since I am the only user of email here. I have been keeping
> the same .procmailrc file from well before the transition from
> exim3 to exim4, making ad hoc kludge changes only when absolutely
> forced to, and largely without a clue as to what I was doing.
> 
> I once had spamassassin working, but for a long while it has not
> been working. Certainly there has been no evidence of it working
> since I installed xfce under wheezy. Today I noticed in my
> .procmailrc the following line, which is left over from long ago:
> 
> PATH=/usr/local/nmh/lib:/usr/local/nmh/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin
> 
> This line is there for the benefit of the scripting that inplements
> the recipes that follow. But this is wrong for my wheezy!!! In
> particular, everything in /usr was put there by installing wheezy with
> a squeeze business-card CD followed by debian package installs using
> aptitude pointing to ftp.us.debian.org/debian/. Aptitude says that the
> package nmh is installed. But there is no directory /usr/local/nmh/ on
> the computer. Sometime in the past the organization of Debian /usr
> transitioned from having that directory to not have it. It's been long
> enough that it may have gone thru several transitions while I was
> confused and inattentive (because of poor access to emails, perhaps)
> 
> Anyway, I think I need a PATH statement that is appropriate for
> Debian wheezy before I can do any meaningful debugging. 
> 
> Can someone who is running a single user Wheezy system using single
> user .procmailrc and spamassassin (or spamc/spamd) please post a copy
> of the PATH statement is a working setup? 
> 
> As an added goody, please tell me where you got the information.
> Did it get installed automagically by a Debian package? Or what?
> 
> TIA
> 



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Procmailrc question

2011-04-17 Thread Paul E Condon
I once had my email working nicely, but over the last few years
the setup has decayed. I am now running wheezy with fetchmail to
get email from my ISP, exim4 to send outgoing email to my ISP, and
do other things locally, and procmail running in my $home. I have
no interest in setting up system-wide (i.e. several users) mail
delivery since I am the only user of email here. I have been keeping
the same .procmailrc file from well before the transition from
exim3 to exim4, making ad hoc kludge changes only when absolutely
forced to, and largely without a clue as to what I was doing.

I once had spamassassin working, but for a long while it has not
been working. Certainly there has been no evidence of it working
since I installed xfce under wheezy. Today I noticed in my
.procmailrc the following line, which is left over from long ago:

PATH=/usr/local/nmh/lib:/usr/local/nmh/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin

This line is there for the benefit of the scripting that inplements
the recipes that follow. But this is wrong for my wheezy!!! In
particular, everything in /usr was put there by installing wheezy with
a squeeze business-card CD followed by debian package installs using
aptitude pointing to ftp.us.debian.org/debian/. Aptitude says that the
package nmh is installed. But there is no directory /usr/local/nmh/ on
the computer. Sometime in the past the organization of Debian /usr
transitioned from having that directory to not have it. It's been long
enough that it may have gone thru several transitions while I was
confused and inattentive (because of poor access to emails, perhaps)

Anyway, I think I need a PATH statement that is appropriate for
Debian wheezy before I can do any meaningful debugging. 

Can someone who is running a single user Wheezy system using single
user .procmailrc and spamassassin (or spamc/spamd) please post a copy
of the PATH statement is a working setup? 

As an added goody, please tell me where you got the information.
Did it get installed automagically by a Debian package? Or what?

TIA
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Re: Re: changing my e-mail address

2011-04-17 Thread Jonathan Matthews
On 17 April 2011 21:19, PMA  wrote:
> Dear List,
>
> My cat, much enjoying this thread, would like to know:
> "What please, referencing particular persons, is a 'git'?"

Tell it to have a look at http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=git
It's a predominately British insult.

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Re: UNA BENDICION ESTA LLEGANDO A TI.....

2011-04-17 Thread shawn wilson
first, i'd recommend against anyone opening that docx attachment
(especially on windows).
second, this is an english list - though if this is legitimate, i'm
sure someone here will be able to advise.

2011/4/17 URGENTE :
> Una bendición está llegando a ti
> Como recibir bolsas repletas de dinero .
>
>
> Has recibido Una Buena Noticia:
> Esto correo lo reciben algunas personas privilegiadas: Esta tradición empezó  
>  en el oriente medio, en Europa y Asia, se repite  cada 823 años y lo tienen 
> como tradición oral, pero por haberse alejado de la promesa, haciendo mal uso 
> de los millones de dólares obtenidos con el fruto de la tierra (Guerras, 
> exterminios, petróleo, industria, comercio etc.)  Hoy ha trascendido a todas 
> partes del mundo, pero especialmente a América Central  que se debate en la 
> miseria, corrupción,  delincuencia, inseguridad, la pobreza extrema. Usted es 
> uno de los pocos privilegiados que le llego este correo. Abra el correo 
> adjunto para ver de qué se trata.
> La tradición oral decía que  solo era para los cristianos de la época, es 
> decir solo para católicos, pero ahora se ha ampliado para toda denominación 
> que Crea en Dios padre, Jesús el Hijo y el espíritu Santo. Hace 823 años o 
> sea  más 7 años de ajuste en el calendario (1118) tuvo su mayor difusión 
> perdiéndose en el tiempo esa tradición, pero ahora es difundida ampliamente 
> en Centro América donde habrá un nuevo ciclo de prosperidad para aquel que 
> crea y lo ponga en práctica completamente. No se trata de algo mágico, o 
> milagroso sino de entrar en una relación fresca y comprometida con nuestro 
> Dios padre todo poderoso como lo hicieron hace 823 años los habitantes de 
> esos países ahora desarrollados e industrializados.
> NOTA; Es muy seguro que habrá algunos términos, nombres, actividades a 
> realizar etc. Que no entiendes pero debes buscar, investigar, averiguar por 
> cualquier medio (internet, preguntas a pastores y  dirigentes de Iglesia que 
> te expliquen para adaptarlos en su esencia en tu denominación cristiana a 
> manera de cumplir el sentido de la condición) Son once condiciones y cada una 
> debe cumplirse al pie de la letra;  Si haces trampa o cumples a medias o 
> ignoras una condición entonces VANA será  tu participación, porque se deben 
> cumplir estrictamente todas las condiciones.
>
> ABRE EL CORREO ADJUNTO Y ENTERATE………. . .
> NO CAIGAS EN LA TRAMPA DEL ENEMIGO QUE SOLAMENTE QUIERE VERTE POBRE, 
> DESDICHADO, ABATIDO Y SUFRIENDO.
>
>
>


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Fwd: Re: changing my e-mail address

2011-04-17 Thread PMA

Dear List,

My cat, much enjoying this thread, would like to know:
"What please, referencing particular persons, is a 'git'?"

Thank you.
P.A.


 Original Message 
Subject: Re: changing my e-mail address
Resent-Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2011 19:48:55 + (UTC)
Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 05:48:39 +1000
From: Heddle Weaver 
To: Debian-User list 

On 18 April 2011 05:34, Jonathan Matthews  wrote:


On 16 April 2011 18:39, Pierre Frenkiel 
wrote:
> On Sat, 16 Apr 2011, Lisi wrote:
>
>>  To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org
>> with a subject of "unsubscribe". 
>>
>> Have you tried this?  You don't mention it.
>
>  And did you read my post?
>  The question was not
> "how to unsubcribe?",
> but
> "how to modify my address without doing unsubscribe/subscribe?"

What difference do you think there is between those 2 operations?
Hint: none at all.

>  It's curious that I got 5 replys, all about the PS, but
>  not a single answer to my question !

Your question was boring as you self-answered in your original mail.
Just do the damn unsubscribe/subscribe dance. If it causes you
problems, please reconsider the wisdom of owning a complex bit of kit
like your computer.

Also, learn how to respond to people trying to help you with your
questions whilst /not/ sounding like a git. If this is a
secondary-language thing, hence you didn't otherwise realise it: your
email, above, made you sound like a git. Stop that.



Agreed!
It carries on like an attention deficit disorder and qualifies as noise
pollution. That's all I can see. The 'Newbie' tag others are attaching to it
simply doesn't fit with its references to Ubuntu lists etc.
It knows what the deal is. Do it.
Anything that might have remotely resembled a valid question was answered
some time ago, politely. If he chooses to persist in lunacy, it's time for
the other.

Sounds like the kind of idiot that would use toilet paper and then complain
that it was soiled.
Regards,

Weaver.
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by the wise as false,
and by the rulers as useful.

— Lucius Annæus Seneca.

Terrorism, the new religion.


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Re: User cannot set process priority nice --10 despite changes in limits.conf

2011-04-17 Thread Sebastian Tarach
> Doesn't look to me like you're running the command as the user you
> specified in limits.conf.
>
> Jonathan
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> London, UK
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You are completely correct but despite my mistake on trying to
reproduce this problem on different machine it still remains.
hlds@gserver:/> nice --5 cat logfile
nice: cannot set niceness: Permission denied


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UNA BENDICION ESTA LLEGANDO A TI.....

2011-04-17 Thread URGENTE
Una bendición está llegando a ti 
Como recibir bolsas repletas de dinero .


Has recibido Una Buena Noticia: 
Esto correo lo reciben algunas personas privilegiadas: Esta tradición empezó   
en el oriente medio, en Europa y Asia, se repite  cada 823 años y lo tienen 
como tradición oral, pero por haberse alejado de la promesa, haciendo mal uso 
de los millones de dólares obtenidos con el fruto de la tierra (Guerras, 
exterminios, petróleo, industria, comercio etc.)  Hoy ha trascendido a todas 
partes del mundo, pero especialmente a América Central  que se debate en la 
miseria, corrupción,  delincuencia, inseguridad, la pobreza extrema. Usted es 
uno de los pocos privilegiados que le llego este correo. Abra el correo adjunto 
para ver de qué se trata. 
La tradición oral decía que  solo era para los cristianos de la época, es decir 
solo para católicos, pero ahora se ha ampliado para toda denominación que Crea 
en Dios padre, Jesús el Hijo y el espíritu Santo. Hace 823 años o sea  más 
7 años de ajuste en el calendario (1118) tuvo su mayor difusión perdiéndose en 
el tiempo esa tradición, pero ahora es difundida ampliamente en Centro América 
donde habrá un nuevo ciclo de prosperidad para aquel que crea y lo ponga en 
práctica completamente. No se trata de algo mágico, o milagroso sino de entrar 
en una relación fresca y comprometida con nuestro Dios padre todo poderoso como 
lo hicieron hace 823 años los habitantes de esos países ahora desarrollados e 
industrializados. 
NOTA; Es muy seguro que habrá algunos términos, nombres, actividades a realizar 
etc. Que no entiendes pero debes buscar, investigar, averiguar por cualquier 
medio (internet, preguntas a pastores y  dirigentes de Iglesia que te expliquen 
para adaptarlos en su esencia en tu denominación cristiana a manera de cumplir 
el sentido de la condición) Son once condiciones y cada una debe cumplirse al 
pie de la letra;  Si haces trampa o cumples a medias o ignoras una condición 
entonces VANA será  tu participación, porque se deben cumplir estrictamente 
todas las condiciones.

ABRE EL CORREO ADJUNTO Y ENTERATE………. . .  
NO CAIGAS EN LA TRAMPA DEL ENEMIGO QUE SOLAMENTE QUIERE VERTE POBRE, 
DESDICHADO, ABATIDO Y SUFRIENDO.   




ACTO DE FE.docx
Description: Binary data


Re: Reformat/salvage old LaCie drive?

2011-04-17 Thread Jonathan Matthews
On 17 April 2011 19:55, Brian Flaherty  wrote:
> Hello,
> I have an old LaCie 500 GB hard drive. I opened it up last night and see
> that it is two 250 ATA/133 hard drives: one master, one slave on a single
> IDE ribbon connector. (Hope my words are right.) It is connected to my
> laptop via USB. (recent Debian Squeeze install on a Lenovo X201)
>
> How do I reformat and test if the drive is reliable?

Don't. It's 8/9/10 year old technology which has already started to
tell you it's going south. Just bin it.

Jonathan
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Re: changing my e-mail address

2011-04-17 Thread Heddle Weaver
On 18 April 2011 05:34, Jonathan Matthews  wrote:

> On 16 April 2011 18:39, Pierre Frenkiel 
> wrote:
> > On Sat, 16 Apr 2011, Lisi wrote:
> >
> >>  To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org
> >> with a subject of "unsubscribe". 
> >>
> >> Have you tried this?  You don't mention it.
> >
> >  And did you read my post?
> >  The question was not
> > "how to unsubcribe?",
> > but
> > "how to modify my address without doing unsubscribe/subscribe?"
>
> What difference do you think there is between those 2 operations?
> Hint: none at all.
>
> >  It's curious that I got 5 replys, all about the PS, but
> >  not a single answer to my question !
>
> Your question was boring as you self-answered in your original mail.
> Just do the damn unsubscribe/subscribe dance. If it causes you
> problems, please reconsider the wisdom of owning a complex bit of kit
> like your computer.
>
> Also, learn how to respond to people trying to help you with your
> questions whilst /not/ sounding like a git. If this is a
> secondary-language thing, hence you didn't otherwise realise it: your
> email, above, made you sound like a git. Stop that.
>

Agreed!
It carries on like an attention deficit disorder and qualifies as noise
pollution. That's all I can see. The 'Newbie' tag others are attaching to it
simply doesn't fit with its references to Ubuntu lists etc.
It knows what the deal is. Do it.
Anything that might have remotely resembled a valid question was answered
some time ago, politely. If he chooses to persist in lunacy, it's time for
the other.

Sounds like the kind of idiot that would use toilet paper and then complain
that it was soiled.
Regards,

Weaver.
-- 

Religion is regarded by the common people as true,
by the wise as false,
and by the rulers as useful.

— Lucius Annæus Seneca.

Terrorism, the new religion.


Re: User cannot set process priority nice --10 despite changes in limits.conf

2011-04-17 Thread Jonathan Matthews
On 17 April 2011 11:21, Sebastian Tarach  wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I'm trying to allow user hlds to be able to start game server daemon with
> higher priority. Even though I've added fallowing line in
> /etc/security/limits.conf
>
> hlds -   nice-20
>
> I'm still getting
>
> starach@debian:/> nice --5 cat logfile
> nice: cannot set niceness: Permission denied
>
> What could I have done wrong?

Doesn't look to me like you're running the command as the user you
specified in limits.conf.

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Re: HALF SOLVED!! :) - 2 encrypted VG's on 1 disk - HOW?

2011-04-17 Thread Jonathan Matthews
On 17 April 2011 12:49, johhny_at_poland77  wrote:
> I "half solved" it!! :P

Well done.  As I believe you were previously informed, this is a
mailing list for debian-specific traffic. Please use it as such. You
may have better luck over here: https://lists.ubuntu.com/.

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Re: changing my e-mail address

2011-04-17 Thread Jonathan Matthews
On 16 April 2011 18:39, Pierre Frenkiel  wrote:
> On Sat, 16 Apr 2011, Lisi wrote:
>
>>  To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org
>> with a subject of "unsubscribe". 
>>
>> Have you tried this?  You don't mention it.
>
>  And did you read my post?
>  The question was not
>     "how to unsubcribe?",
>     but
>     "how to modify my address without doing unsubscribe/subscribe?"

What difference do you think there is between those 2 operations?
Hint: none at all.

>  It's curious that I got 5 replys, all about the PS, but
>  not a single answer to my question !

Your question was boring as you self-answered in your original mail.
Just do the damn unsubscribe/subscribe dance. If it causes you
problems, please reconsider the wisdom of owning a complex bit of kit
like your computer.

Also, learn how to respond to people trying to help you with your
questions whilst /not/ sounding like a git. If this is a
secondary-language thing, hence you didn't otherwise realise it: your
email, above, made you sound like a git. Stop that.

HTH,
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Re: changing my e-mail address

2011-04-17 Thread Freeman
On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 10:19:30AM -0400, sal migondis wrote:
> >>> "how to modify my address without doing unsubscribe/subscribe?"
> >>
> >> The answer to your question is:  unsubscribe the old address.  Subscribe
> >> the new one.
> 
> That's not what he asked, is it...?!!!
> 
> OP:
> 
> "how do I MODIFY my address WITHOUT doing
> unsubscribe/subscribe"
> 
> Wise guy:
> 
> "The answer is... unsubscribe.. subscribe"
> 
> HElloooOO...??? Anybody home...???
> 
> I took a quick look, and I did not see any way you can
> do it.
> 
> And I think this is about as lame as it gets. So basically
> you have to fill out the subscription form again, reply to
> the email to confirm your subscription... etc.
> 

> Wise guy:
> 
> "That's not too hard"
> 
> Yeah, right.. Imagine for a second the OP is subscribed
> to .. TEN.. TWENTY.. different debian mailing lists...
> 
> Or is there a recommendation somewhere that says that
> it is foolish to subscribe to more than one (two?) debian
> list(s) at the same time...
> 

Nice skit but there is misinformation in the "what if." The Debian list page
has a form for unsubscribing/subscribing multiple lists.  Confirming a
subscription/unsubscription is a one-click proportion and would be
necessary for a address change function too, were there one.


> The GNU mailing lists for instance have an easy to access
> option where you can edit your subscription options,
> including specifying a new email address.
> 

Everyone in cyberspace allocates their resources toward the features that
meet their unique criteria.  Nothing new there.  We choose according to the
aggregation of features, priories and objectives that fit us best.

> >  I'm afraid your logic is not mine!
> >  The correct answer to my question is: "that's not possiblë with debian 
> > lists"
> 
> Apparently, there are people here who can't read.
> 
> If they cannot provide anything more positive such as
> indicating how  this situation could be improved, maybe
> they should have simply said 'sorry, debian uses lousy
> mailing list management software or is not set up properly
> and there's nothing our volunteers can do about it.'
> 

Smartlist is great and very Debian.

> The latter would probably not make the OP happy, but
> I'm sure he would have been OK with that.. and that
> answer would certainly be preferable than half a dozen
> messages that only show that the their authors did not
> even bother to read his post.
> 

It's the weekend.

> Maybe the famous 'how to ask smart questions' document
> needs to be complemented by 'how to avoid posting dumb
> replies'.
> 

Jumping newbies and non-geeks is particularly distasteful in my opinion.

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Reformat/salvage old LaCie drive?

2011-04-17 Thread Brian Flaherty

Hello,
I have an old LaCie 500 GB hard drive. I opened it up last night and see 
that it is two 250 ATA/133 hard drives: one master, one slave on a 
single IDE ribbon connector. (Hope my words are right.) It is connected 
to my laptop via USB. (recent Debian Squeeze install on a Lenovo X201)


How do I reformat and test if the drive is reliable? I tried 
repartitioning it with fdisk /dev/sdb1 yesterday, but I bet making it 
one big partition was the wrong way to go. When I ran mkfs with 
badblocks, I got a ton and mkfs gave up. Does that mean the drives are 
junk or that I screwed up the partition table? I've looked on the web 
for awhile, but haven't found an explanation of what I need to do. (I 
assume that is because I don't have the right words.)


When I connect the drive, only one USB device shows up:
[10936.030963] usb 1-1.1: new full speed USB device using ehci_hcd and 
address 11

[10936.102777] usb 1-1.1: device descriptor read/64, error -32
[10936.278360] usb 1-1.1: device descriptor read/64, error -32
[10936.398277] hub 1-1:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 1
[10948.543604] usb 1-1.1: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and 
address 13
[10948.640561] usb 1-1.1: New USB device found, idVendor=059f, 
idProduct=0421
[10948.640567] usb 1-1.1: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, 
SerialNumber=3

[10948.640570] usb 1-1.1: Product: USB 2.0 LaCie Big Disk
[10948.640574] usb 1-1.1: Manufacturer: LaCie
[10948.640576] usb 1-1.1: SerialNumber: 19A00E00078F6C2D
[10948.640723] usb 1-1.1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[10948.659536] Initializing USB Mass Storage driver...
[10948.659806] scsi6 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices
[10948.659948] usb-storage: device found at 13
[10948.659952] usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning
[10948.659969] usbcore: registered new interface driver usb-storage
[10948.659975] USB Mass Storage support registered.
[10953.649766] usb-storage: device scan complete
[10953.650698] scsi 6:0:0:0: Direct-Access LaCieBig Disk G467 
  PQ: 0 ANSI: 4

[10953.651471] sd 6:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg2 type 0
[10953.652483] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] 980469503 512-byte logical blocks: (502 
GB/467 GiB)

[10953.653102] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off
[10953.653107] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Mode Sense: 11 00 00 00
[10953.653110] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through
[10953.668446] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through
[10953.668452]  sdb: sdb1
[10953.688016] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through
[10953.688021] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI disk

and sdparm shows one device:

sdparm -6 /dev/sdb1
/dev/sdb1: LaCie Big Disk G467


Thanks for your time and any help, thoughts, etc.


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Re: Troubleshooting boot

2011-04-17 Thread Kent West
On 4/17/11 12:23 PM, Michaël Grünewald wrote:
> Dear Debian users,
>
> I have trouble running Debian Squeeze on my machine.  The installation
> process successfully completes, but most of the time (19 times in 20?)
> the kernel stalls after displaying its `Loading ...' message.  Any
> hint to help me fix this would be much appreciated!

I am having similar problems with a Dell system that used to run an
older version of Debian without problems (which had to temporarily be
wiped to do some testing of Windows 7, and now I'm trying to put a fresh
install of Debian on it).

I haven't been able to even figure out how to phrase my question to ask
about it on this list, because the errors are so inconsistent. One thing
I have noticed that's different from your description is that even if
the machine boots up all the way, it's not necessarily stable for more
than a few hours.

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Re: Internet Connection Speed Test

2011-04-17 Thread Jude DaShiell
You can do apt-get lynx -r  as root then try: lynx 
http://www.speedtest.net/ .  The statistics you need should then 
appear on the screen for you to examine.On Sun, 17 Apr 2011, Wayne Topa 
wrote:

> On 04/17/2011 01:29 AM, sahaya wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Nathan Zabaldo wrote:
> > >
> > > Is there a package or a way to test upstream and downstream speeds of an
> > > Internet connection from a terminal in Debian Woody?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > e.g. www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/ , but I need to test from a terminal as
> > > I
> > > do not have a browser.
> 
> Install the iftop package
> 
> Description: displays bandwidth usage information on an network interface
>  iftop does for network usage what top(1) does for CPU usage. It listens to
>  network traffic on a named interface and displays a table of current 
> bandwidth
>  usage by pairs of hosts. Handy for answering the question "Why is my Internet
>  link so slow?".
> 
> HTH
> WT
> 
> 
> 



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Re: Internet Connection Speed Test

2011-04-17 Thread Glenn English

On Apr 17, 2011, at 11:48 AM, Wayne Topa wrote:

> Install the iftop package

Wow! That is profoundly cool. I didn't know it existed. Thanks -- I just hope 
Nathan likes it too :-)

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Re: Internet Connection Speed Test

2011-04-17 Thread Wayne Topa

On 04/17/2011 01:29 AM, sahaya wrote:




Nathan Zabaldo wrote:


Is there a package or a way to test upstream and downstream speeds of an
Internet connection from a terminal in Debian Woody?



e.g. www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/ , but I need to test from a terminal as
I
do not have a browser.


Install the iftop package

Description: displays bandwidth usage information on an network interface
 iftop does for network usage what top(1) does for CPU usage. It listens to
 network traffic on a named interface and displays a table of current 
bandwidth
 usage by pairs of hosts. Handy for answering the question "Why is my 
Internet

 link so slow?".

HTH
WT


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Troobleshooting boot

2011-04-17 Thread Michaël Grünewald

Dear Debian users,

I have trouble running Debian Squeeze on my machine.  The installation 
process successfully completes, but most of the time (19 times in 20?) 
the kernel stalls after displaying its `Loading ...' message.  Any hint 
to help me fix this would be much appreciated!


My machine is built around an asus m4a88td-m motherboard and an AMD 
Phenom processor which I recently bought to encode several gigabytes of 
MPEG2-TS video data.  Unfortunately I am unable to run reliably Debian 
Squeeze on this machine.


I have currently a double boot FreeBSD/Debian Squueze there, and to be 
honnest the last time I seriously used a Debian system was back when 
`Potato' was the hot thing ... my experience is probably not of much 
help any more. (It seems you do not even have dselect anymore, have you?)


To understand what was going on, I started several times in a row the 
machine in `recovery mode' from the Grub menu, but I always had 
different messages showing up on the display's tail.  I guessed that the 
kernel was operating a kind of parallel initialisation, and I could not 
figure out how to disable it to get a sensible error message on the console.


When the machine dares to start under Debian Squeeze, it is stable and 
works without error.


I also have FreeBSD 8.1 installed on the machine, it works fine and 
reliably so I can use it to get informations on the machine, like the 
precise names of the chipsets there and the pci information.


Here is the output of `dmesg' it contains the output generated by the 
kernel, and incidentially the list of chipsets on my system.

---8<---
Copyright (c) 1992-2011 The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation.
FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE #0: Sat Mar 19 14:23:55 CET 2011
r...@llea.celt.neu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/LLEA amd64
Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0
CPU: AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1090T Processor (3214.25-MHz K8-class CPU)
  Origin = "AuthenticAMD"  Id = 0x100fa0  Family = 10  Model = a 
Stepping = 0


Features=0x178bfbff
  Features2=0x802009
  AMD 
Features=0xee500800
  AMD 
Features2=0x37ff

  TSC: P-state invariant
real memory  = 8589934592 (8192 MB)
avail memory = 8248184832 (7866 MB)
ACPI APIC Table: <061010 APIC2128>
FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 6 CPUs
FreeBSD/SMP: 1 package(s) x 6 core(s)
 cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID:  0
 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID:  1
 cpu2 (AP): APIC ID:  2
 cpu3 (AP): APIC ID:  3
 cpu4 (AP): APIC ID:  4
 cpu5 (AP): APIC ID:  5
ioapic0  irqs 0-23 on motherboard
kbd1 at kbdmux0
cryptosoft0:  on motherboard
acpi0: <061010 XSDT2128> on motherboard
acpi0: [ITHREAD]
acpi0: Power Button (fixed)
acpi0: reservation of fee0, 1000 (3) failed
acpi0: reservation of ffb8, 8 (3) failed
acpi0: reservation of fec1, 20 (3) failed
acpi0: reservation of fed4, 5000 (3) failed
acpi0: reservation of fed8, 1000 (3) failed
acpi0: reservation of 0, a (3) failed
acpi0: reservation of 10, cff0 (3) failed
Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000
acpi_timer0: <32-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x808-0x80b on acpi0
cpu0:  on acpi0
cpu1:  on acpi0
cpu2:  on acpi0
cpu3:  on acpi0
cpu4:  on acpi0
cpu5:  on acpi0
acpi_ec0:  port 0x62,0x66 on acpi0
acpi_hpet0:  iomem 0xfed0-0xfed003ff on 
acpi0

Timecounter "HPET" frequency 14318180 Hz quality 900
pcib0:  port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0
pci0:  on pcib0
pcib1:  irq 18 at device 2.0 on pci0
pci1:  on pcib1
vgapci0:  port 0xc000-0xc0ff mem 
0xd000-0xdfff,0xfe8e-0xfe8f irq 18 at device 0.0 on pci1
hdac0:  mem 
0xfe8bc000-0xfe8b irq 19 at device 0.1 on pci1

hdac0: HDA Driver Revision: 20100226_0142
hdac0: [ITHREAD]
pcib2:  irq 19 at device 7.0 on pci0
pci2:  on pcib2
xhci0:  mem 0xfe9fe000-0xfe9f irq 
19 at device 0.0 on pci2

xhci0: [ITHREAD]
usbus0 on xhci0
pcib3:  irq 17 at device 9.0 on pci0
pci3:  on pcib3
atapci0:  port 
0xdc00-0xdc07,0xd880-0xd883,0xd800-0xd807,0xd480-0xd483,0xd400-0xd40f 
irq 17 at device 0.0 on pci3

atapci0: [ITHREAD]
ata2:  on atapci0
ata2: [ITHREAD]
ata3:  on atapci0
ata3: [ITHREAD]
pcib4:  irq 18 at device 10.0 on pci0
pci4:  on pcib4
re0:  port 
0xe800-0xe8ff mem 0xfdfff000-0xfdff,0xfdff8000-0xfdffbfff irq 18 at 
device 0.0 on pci4

re0: Using 1 MSI-X message
re0: Chip rev. 0x2c00
re0: MAC rev. 0x
miibus0:  on re0
rgephy0:  PHY 1 on miibus0
rgephy0:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 10baseT-FDX-flow, 100baseTX, 
100baseTX-FDX, 100baseTX-FDX-flow, 1000baseT, 1000baseT-master, 
1000baseT-FDX, 1000baseT-FDX-master, 1000baseT-FDX-flow, 
1000baseT-FDX-flow-master, auto, auto-flow

re0: Ethernet address: 20:cf:30:ac:09:e1
re0: [ITHREAD]
atapci1:  port 
0xb000-0xb007,0xa000-0xa003,0x9000-0x9007,0x8000-0x8003,0x7000-0x700f 
mem 0xfe7ffc00-0xfe7f irq 19 at device 17.0 on pci0

atapci1: [ITHREAD]
atapci1: AHCI v1.20 controller 

Re: arbitrary disk name assignment affects dump/restore

2011-04-17 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20110417_111214, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> On Sb, 16 apr 11, 15:00:39, Dean Allen Provins, P. Geoph. wrote:
> > 
> > This means that I must NOT rely on my automatic (crontab-based) dump
> > scripts, but interrogate the system manually, and if necessary, alter
> > /var/lib/dumpdates so that the script will run properly.
> 
> No, just adapt your script to use whatever symlink you like in one of:
> 
> /dev/disk/by-id/
> /dev/disk/by-label/ # assuming you defined labels
> /dev/disk/by-path/
> /dev/disk/by-uuid/
> 
> I prefer labels since they can be set to something meaningful/mnemonic.
> 
> > This is a REAL PAIN.
> 
> Yes and no. On one hand it is a change in behaviour, OTOH, relying on 
> the specific order in which devices are seen by the kernel just asks for 
> trouble. You only need consider removable drives.
> 
> > Is it possible that /etc/fstab, which now identifies the partitions on my
> > single fixed disc via UUID labels, is an unwilling participant in this
> > confusion?
> 
> No
>  
> > Should I alter /dev/fstab to indicate the partitions as it was done before

To Dean,
Surely you mean /etc/fstab ;-)

You can alter /etc/fstab in a way that I have found useful for old
farts like me:

Write a label every partition on every hard disk that was referred to
(in the good old days) as /dev/hdXd or /dev/sdXd,
   where X is a letter like a,b,c, ...
and  d id a digit like 1,2,3, ...

Make each label have the form, plXd 
   where 'pl' is a fixed prefix (mnemonic for 'Partition Label')
and X and d are taken from the good old days.  
   (And from ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/ , see above)

Use the -L option in tune2fs to write these labels.

Then change /etc/fstab to use LABEL=plXd whereever it now uses

UUID="some crazy (but unique) hex string with embedded hyphens" 

The important point is that each partition is identified by a
*locally* unique string that contains some internal clues for the
benefit of old farts. (UUID solves the problem of being locally
unique by being locally unique to the biosphere on Earth, which
is, IMHO, overkill.)

Of course, if in future you want to pull one of your hard disks and
install it on in a different computer, you will have to exercise some
caution. You will have to check the /dev/disk/by-* contents and fix
the labels on the disk you are moving to avoid a name clash in the
partition labels, and fix the clash before you make the required new
entries in /etc/fstab of the computer to which the disk is being
moved. 

Keep in mind that the partition identifier cannot be constructed
from the mount point because the whole point of /etc/fstab is to
establish a mapping between physical partitions and mount points.

HTH

> > (i.e. /dev/sda1 is /, /dev/sda3 is /home etc.)?
> 
> This is likely to make your system un-bootable.
> 
> Regards,
> Andrei
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Re: Wheezy upgrade trashes display

2011-04-17 Thread Steve Kleene
> I had same issue after last major upgrade. ... Was able to overcome the
> problem changing radeonhd to radeon in my xorg.conf file.

Thanks.  I also solved the problem here but by putting back older versions of
some xorg and xserver-xorg packages.  The discussion of this ended up in
another thread, "Subject: [SOLVED] Multseat don't work after xorg (and
related) upgrade"


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Re: Much Ado About Nothing [was: changing my e-mail address]

2011-04-17 Thread Klistvud

Dne, 17. 04. 2011 16:19:30 je sal migondis napisal(a):



Yeah, right.. Imagine for a second the OP is subscribed
to .. TEN.. TWENTY.. different debian mailing lists...

Or is there a recommendation somewhere that says that
it is foolish to subscribe to more than one (two?) debian
list(s) at the same time...

The GNU mailing lists for instance have an easy to access
option where you can edit your subscription options,
including specifying a new email address.

>  I'm afraid your logic is not mine!
>  The correct answer to my question is: "that's not possiblë with  
debian lists"




That's not possible with debian lists.
There.

Can we wrap it up now? Nitpicking semantics tends to get tiresome after  
a while.


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Re: Re: Wheezy upgrade trashes display

2011-04-17 Thread Giovanni Badi
I had same issue after last major upgrade.

Error was radeonhd module not found.

Was able to overcome the problem changing radeonhd to radeon in my
xorg.conf file.

Think some module are missed in the last update of kernel.

Sorry for any wrong reference in my e-mail . I'm using since long time
Debianbut absolutely not a geek on it.

Ciao

Giovanni Badii


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Re: changing my e-mail address

2011-04-17 Thread sal migondis
>>> "how to modify my address without doing unsubscribe/subscribe?"
>>
>> The answer to your question is:  unsubscribe the old address.  Subscribe
>> the new one.

That's not what he asked, is it...?!!!

OP:

"how do I MODIFY my address WITHOUT doing
unsubscribe/subscribe"

Wise guy:

"The answer is... unsubscribe.. subscribe"

HElloooOO...??? Anybody home...???

I took a quick look, and I did not see any way you can
do it.

And I think this is about as lame as it gets. So basically
you have to fill out the subscription form again, reply to
the email to confirm your subscription... etc.

Wise guy:

"That's not too hard"

Yeah, right.. Imagine for a second the OP is subscribed
to .. TEN.. TWENTY.. different debian mailing lists...

Or is there a recommendation somewhere that says that
it is foolish to subscribe to more than one (two?) debian
list(s) at the same time...

The GNU mailing lists for instance have an easy to access
option where you can edit your subscription options,
including specifying a new email address.

>  I'm afraid your logic is not mine!
>  The correct answer to my question is: "that's not possiblë with debian lists"

Apparently, there are people here who can't read.

If they cannot provide anything more positive such as
indicating how  this situation could be improved, maybe
they should have simply said 'sorry, debian uses lousy
mailing list management software or is not set up properly
and there's nothing our volunteers can do about it.'

The latter would probably not make the OP happy, but
I'm sure he would have been OK with that.. and that
answer would certainly be preferable than half a dozen
messages that only show that the their authors did not
even bother to read his post.

Maybe the famous 'how to ask smart questions' document
needs to be complemented by 'how to avoid posting dumb
replies'.

Sal.


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Re: changing my e-mail address

2011-04-17 Thread Lisi
On Sunday 17 April 2011 14:40:46 Pierre Frenkiel wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Apr 2011, Osamu Aoki wrote:
> > ...
>
> Hi Osamu,
> thank you for taking time to write a long answer,
> Nonetheless, there is a basic misunderstanding of my post:for me, asking
> a question is not equivalent to complaining!


 PS: what bothers me is that I wrote several times to 
listow...@lists.debian.org,
 for a problem with bounces and for the present question,
 and never got any answer, although they say:
 You are welcome to contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
 it seems that this address is just managed by a robot... 

That is definitely complaining.  Moreover it is complaining that busy people 
had not chosen to answer a trivial question - except that that is not what 
happened.  _You_ made a fairly stupid mistake of mis-copying.  

We all make stupid mistakes but a) in my experience most people apologise for 
them and b) most people do not then go on to reply condescendingly to one of 
the most knowledgeable people on this list.

Lisi


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Re: changing my e-mail address

2011-04-17 Thread Pierre Frenkiel

On Sun, 17 Apr 2011, Osamu Aoki wrote:


...

Hi Osamu,
thank you for taking time to write a long answer,
Nonetheless, there is a basic misunderstanding of my post:for me, asking
a question is not equivalent to complaining!
I asked: is a feature available for ubuntu lists available for debian?
The only answer should have been "no", and the thread would have been closed.
Moreover, an other feature is better for Debian than for Ubuntu: they 
remove the subscription only after a certain bounce-rate, and not at the first

bounced mail.
So, "nobody's perfect"


But what exactly is needed by you?  It seems to me that your frustration
is coming mostly from your lack of knowledge how this system works.


   where do you see frustration? (cf above)

. . .
3) To change mail address receiving mailing list, just subscribe with
  new address.  you can toss duplicates for now.  Then you can
  unsubscribe. bandwidth is cj\heap.


it's axactly the solution I gave in my 1st post, if the "modify
address" feature  was not available.
I actually needed that because the manager of my old mailbox was unable
to solve the bounce problem(mails coming from some domains always rejected,
independantly of any spam filter)


If you are wondering what I am talking as case 1 and 2, please learn how
to use mail client.  I understand it is a bit obscure for novice PC
user.

  it's kind to you to suggest that, but I would bet that I'm using e-mail
  since a longer time than you. And again, this has nothing to do with my post.

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Re: changing my e-mail address

2011-04-17 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi Pierre,

On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 12:02:43PM +0200, Pierre Frenkiel wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Apr 2011, Ron Johnson wrote:
> "how to modify my address without doing unsubscribe/subscribe?"
> >>>
> >>>The answer to your question is: unsubscribe the old address. Subscribe
> >>>the new one.
> >>
> >>I'm afraid your logic is not mine!
> >>The correct answer to my question is: "that's not possible with debian
> >>lists"
> >
> >You seem to think that electronic mailing lists are managed the
> >same way as snail mailing lists.
> 
>   I really don't understand at all this sentence. I don't see the slightest
>   relation with the quoted part above. I just wrote "it's not possible", which
>   is obviously true, without any comment.
> 
>   As for the "modify address" feature, do you put the Ubuntu mailing lists
>   in the "snail" category?!

FEATURE comes with high price tag of making it possible.  We as
volunteer group has to make priority choice since we lack manpower to do
all.  I do not think you paid for Debian mailing list service :-)

But what exactly is needed by you?  It seems to me that your frustration
is coming mostly from your lack of knowledge how this system works.

 1) To send mail from other mail service, you can do it any time by
   yourself since Debian is open list.  You do not need to use
   registered address to send mail.

 2) To change mail address showing up on mailing list and its archive, 
   you can do it any time by yourself since spoofing mail address is
   trivial act of your mail client configuration.

 3) To change mail address receiving mailing list, just subscribe with
   new address.  you can toss duplicates for now.  Then you can
   unsubscribe. bandwidth is cj\heap.

 4) If you hate getting too much mails, just do not subscribe to it.
You can read it from news reader or from web pages.

The negative damage of doing 3rd case is minimal.  Naturally, no one
cares to set up such interface to change subscription address.

If you are wondering what I am talking as case 1 and 2, please learn how
to use mail client.  I understand it is a bit obscure for novice PC
user.

Reading basics should help you.
  
http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch06.en.html#_the_mail_system

Osamu


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HALF SOLVED!! :) - 2 encrypted VG's on 1 disk - HOW?

2011-04-17 Thread johhny_at_poland77
I "half solved" it!! :P

http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/11289/how-to-install-fedoraubuntu-with-encrypted-vgs-on-one-disk/11509#11509

but there are still 2 questions regarding it...can anyone answer them?

Thank you!!


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User cannot set process priority nice --10 despite changes in limits.conf

2011-04-17 Thread Sebastian Tarach
Hello,

I'm trying to allow user hlds to be able to start game server daemon with
higher priority. Even though I've added fallowing line in
/etc/security/limits.conf

# 
#

#*   softcore0
#roothardcore10
#*   hardrss 1
#@studenthardnproc   20
#@facultysoftnproc   20
#@facultyhardnproc   50
#ftp hardnproc   0
#ftp -   chroot  /ftp
#@student-   maxlogins   4

# End of file
hlds -   nice-20


I'm still getting
Kod:

starach@debian:/> nice --5 cat logfile
nice: cannot set niceness: Permission denied

What could I have done wrong?


Re: changing my e-mail address

2011-04-17 Thread Lisi
On Sunday 17 April 2011 11:02:43 Pierre Frenkiel wrote:
>  As for the "modify address" feature, do you put the Ubuntu mailing lists
>    in the "snail" category?!

They are certainly not "most other lists".

Lisi


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Re: changing my e-mail address

2011-04-17 Thread Pierre Frenkiel

On Sun, 17 Apr 2011, Ron Johnson wrote:




"how to modify my address without doing unsubscribe/subscribe?"


The answer to your question is: unsubscribe the old address. Subscribe
the new one.


I'm afraid your logic is not mine!
The correct answer to my question is: "that's not possiblë with debian
lists"



You seem to think that electronic mailing lists are managed the same way as 
snail mailing lists.


  I really don't understand at all this sentence. I don't see the slightest
  relation with the quoted part above. I just wrote "it's not possible", which
  is obviously true, without any comment.

  As for the "modify address" feature, do you put the Ubuntu mailing lists
  in the "snail" category?!

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Re: 2 encrypted VG's on 1 disk - HOW?

2011-04-17 Thread Lisi
On Sunday 17 April 2011 10:02:15 johhny_at_poland77 wrote:
> I don't think it's a "distro related" issue, so i'm posting it here too:

It is distro related.  It is an inconvenient quirk of Fedora, which I imagine 
that you installed second if you have this problem.

> http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/11289/how-to-install-fedoraubuntu-w
>ith-encrypted-vgs-on-one-disk

> what am i missing?
 
Googling about both distros separately rather than together.

> why doesn't GRUB offer the 2 distros@boot, why is it only offering only 1??
> why doesn't it sees the other one??

Because Fedora doesn't.  (And yes, it is annoying.)  You will need to edit 
GRUB manually one way or another.

Lisi



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2 encrypted VG's on 1 disk - HOW?

2011-04-17 Thread johhny_at_poland77
I don't think it's a "distro related" issue, so i'm posting it here too:

http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/11289/how-to-install-fedoraubuntu-with-encrypted-vgs-on-one-disk

what am i missing?

why doesn't GRUB offer the 2 distros@boot, why is it only offering only 1?? why 
doesn't it sees the other one??

Thanks for any help...


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Re: changing my e-mail address

2011-04-17 Thread Ron Johnson

On 04/17/2011 02:08 AM, Pierre Frenkiel wrote:

On Sat, 16 Apr 2011, Dr. Ed Morbius wrote:


"how to modify my address without doing unsubscribe/subscribe?"


The answer to your question is: unsubscribe the old address. Subscribe
the new one.


I'm afraid your logic is not mine!
The correct answer to my question is: "that's not possiblë with debian
lists"



You seem to think that electronic mailing lists are managed the same way 
as snail mailing lists.


They aren't.

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Re: arbitrary disk name assignment affects dump/restore

2011-04-17 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sb, 16 apr 11, 15:00:39, Dean Allen Provins, P. Geoph. wrote:
> 
> This means that I must NOT rely on my automatic (crontab-based) dump
> scripts, but interrogate the system manually, and if necessary, alter
> /var/lib/dumpdates so that the script will run properly.

No, just adapt your script to use whatever symlink you like in one of:

/dev/disk/by-id/
/dev/disk/by-label/ # assuming you defined labels
/dev/disk/by-path/
/dev/disk/by-uuid/

I prefer labels since they can be set to something meaningful/mnemonic.

> This is a REAL PAIN.

Yes and no. On one hand it is a change in behaviour, OTOH, relying on 
the specific order in which devices are seen by the kernel just asks for 
trouble. You only need consider removable drives.

> Is it possible that /etc/fstab, which now identifies the partitions on my
> single fixed disc via UUID labels, is an unwilling participant in this
> confusion?

No
 
> Should I alter /dev/fstab to indicate the partitions as it was done before
> (i.e. /dev/sda1 is /, /dev/sda3 is /home etc.)?

This is likely to make your system un-bootable.

Regards,
Andrei
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Re: changing my e-mail address

2011-04-17 Thread Pierre Frenkiel

On Sat, 16 Apr 2011, Dr. Ed Morbius wrote:


 "how to modify my address without doing unsubscribe/subscribe?"


The answer to your question is:  unsubscribe the old address.  Subscribe
the new one.


  I'm afraid your logic is not mine!
  The correct answer to my question is: "that's not possiblë with debian lists"

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