[Squeeze] Installer un nouveau module
Bonjour, sur ma version stable Debian Squeeze, je voudrais installer un nouveau module, mon probléme, pas de source du kernel, le fichier config pas de problème, connaissez-vous un howto SVP? merci d'avance JB -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1307173636.18804.6.camel@alpha30
Re: FireFox me donne du soucis
Le 03/06/2011 22:53, cor...@free.fr a écrit : Bonsoir à tous, Depuis plusieurs jours FireFox me donne du soucis : J'ai très régulièrement ce message : --- Firefox a rencontré un problème et a planté. Nous essaierons de restaurer vos onglets et fenêtres lors de son redémarrage. --- Je dois fermer le navigateur. Je me vois aussi proposer d'envoyer l'incident à FireFox, et d'être contacté par l'équipe du navigateur ... Avez vous ce type de problèmes avec FireFox, quels seraient les causes et les remèdes ? Celà peut-il venir d'un site en particulier ? Merci d'avance. firefox installé comment ? le firefox proposé par debian est iceweasel et il fonctionne sans soucis (je butine avec le 4.0.1 depuis plusieurs mois...)... As-tu essayé de lancer firefox dans une console, histoire de voir les vrai messages d'erreur ? As-tu essayé de lancer firefox en safe-mode histoire de déterminer si c'est un des plugins qui provoque ce plantage ? ++ Mourad -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4de9ecc4.7030...@nativobject.net
Re: Lenny : Point de montage abimé lors d'un fusermount -u
Re, On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 07:00:30AM +0200, Philippe wrote: $ ls -l ls: ne peut accéder vafac: Aucun fichier ou répertoire de ce type total 37220 drwxr-xr-x 2 user groupe 4096 jun 3 22:40 mountmach05 drwxr-xr-x 2 user groupe 4096 jun 3 22:40 mountmach15 d? ? ?? ?? vafac = démontage puis faire un fsck avec le bonnes options = ce n'est pas obligatoirement le mount en cause mais surement ton disque qui est en train de mourir J'ai déjà vu ça quand un client NFS/NIS n'accède plus aux cartes NIS... NIS est actif ? A+ -- JFS. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110604131526.ga26...@jones.jfs.dt
Re: [Squeeze] Installer un nouveau module
Salut, il n'y a pas assez de précision pour comprendre ce que tu veux faire. Le 04/06/2011 09:47, JB a écrit : Bonjour, sur ma version stable Debian Squeeze, je voudrais installer un nouveau module, C'est à dire ? Quel module ? Pourquoi faire ? mon probléme, pas de source du kernel, Pourquoi est-ce un problème ? le fichier config pas de problème, Quel fichier config ? connaissez-vous un howto SVP? merci d'avance JB Ken-Patrick -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4dea33bc.5050...@gmail.com
Script Bash, prendre en considération l'espace dans les noms de fichier
Bonjour à tous, J'ai un petit soucis avec un petit script j'ai un dossier dans lequel je voudrais extraire tous les fichiers qui s'y trouvent, mon script est le suivant for myfile in $(ls) do rar e $myfile done le problème c'est que tous les fichiers sont nommés avec des espaces comme séparateur et le script considère chaque mot comme fichier à part ! Comment faire pour prendre en considération l'espace dans le nom de fichier ? Merci pour votre aide par exemple si j'ai un fichier nommé mon fichier.rar en remplaçant rar e $myfile par echo $myfile j'ai le réslutat suivant mon fichier une idée, pour éviter ce souci ? Merci -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/935529.41665...@web26307.mail.ukl.yahoo.com
Re: Script Bash, prendre en considération l'espace dans les noms de fichier
Le Sat, 4 Jun 2011 15:50:27 +0100 (BST), Tahar BEN ACHOUR tahar...@yahoo.fr a écrit : Bonjour à tous, J'ai un petit soucis avec un petit script j'ai un dossier dans lequel je voudrais extraire tous les fichiers qui s'y trouvent, mon script est le suivant for myfile in $(ls) do rar e $myfile done le problème c'est que tous les fichiers sont nommés avec des espaces comme séparateur et le script considère chaque mot comme fichier à part ! Comment faire pour prendre en considération l'espace dans le nom de fichier ? Merci pour votre aide par exemple si j'ai un fichier nommé mon fichier.rar en remplaçant rar e $myfile par echo $myfile j'ai le réslutat suivant mon fichier une idée, pour éviter ce souci ? Merci bonjour, pour ton souchi : man detox man rename mode opératoire : detox -u utf_8 * rename 'y/A-Z/a-z/' * autrement c'est pas rar mais unrar slt bernard -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110604170006.1aaa47bd.bernard.schoenac...@free.fr
Re: Script Bash, prendre en considération l'espace dans les noms de fichier
On 04/06/2011 16:50, Tahar BEN ACHOUR wrote:
Bonjour à tous,
J'ai un petit soucis avec un petit script j'ai un dossier dans lequel je
voudrais extraire tous les fichiers qui s'y trouvent,
mon script est le suivant
for myfile in $(ls)
do
rar e $myfile
done
le problème c'est que tous les fichiers sont nommés avec des espaces comme
séparateur et le script considère chaque mot comme fichier à part ! Comment
faire pour prendre en considération l'espace dans le nom de fichier ?
Merci pour votre aide
par exemple si j'ai un fichier nommé mon fichier.rar en remplaçant rar e
$myfile par echo $myfile j'ai le réslutat suivant
mon
fichier
une idée, pour éviter ce souci ?
Merci
Bonjour,
double quotes sur le nom de fichier :
${myfile}
/usr/bin/rar a A\ B.rar /etc/passwd
for myfile in *.rar; do /usr/bin/rar e ${myfile}; done
A+
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Re: chrome et le son
Bonjour,
OUI, je sais pas pourquoi se matin en allumant debian j'ai le son sur chrome
!
Mais j'ai plus de son avec totem :-(
Le 2 juin 2011 23:53, Bernard Schoenacker bernard.schoenac...@free.fr a
écrit :
bonjour,
menfin faut pas pousser
apt-get dist-upgrade
PC-de-ptilou:/home/ptilou# apt-get dist-upgrade
Lecture des listes de paquets... Fait
Construction de l'arbre des dépendances
Lecture des informations d'état... Fait
Calcul de la mise à jour... Fait
0 mis à jour, 0 nouvellement installés, 0 à enlever et 0 non mis à jour.
et par où sont passés les plugins gstreamer ?
ensuite que donne :
cat /etc/apt/sources.list
PC-de-ptilou:/home/ptilou# cat /etc/apt/sources.list
#
# deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 5.0.4 _Lenny_ - Official i386 NETINST Binary-1
20100201-16:45]/ lenny main
# deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 5.0.4 _Lenny_ - Official i386 NETINST Binary-1
20100201-16:45]/ lenny main
deb http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ lenny main
deb-src http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ lenny main
deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main
deb-src http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main
deb http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile lenny/volatile main
deb http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ lenny-proposed-updates main
deb-src http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ lenny-proposed-updates main
deb-src http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile lenny/volatile main
pour info j'ai le son avec chromium ...
J'ai fait apt-get install chromium, je me retrouve avec un jeu video
chromium BSU ?
reste à voir avec mplayer
dpkg -l |grep ii |awk '{print$2 $3 }' |grep mplayer
mplayer 1.0~rc2-17+lenny3.2
mplayer-skin-blue 1.6-2
gnome-mplayer 0.9.9.2-1
mplayer-doc 3:1.0~rc4+svn2
mplayer-nogui 3:1.0~rc4+svn2
mplayer2 1:2.0~git20110
Quand je fais apt-get install le_nom_du_paquet, il trouve pas le paquet ?
attention au différentes version disponibles suivant les dépots
déclarés ...
Je pense que sa viens du source.list ?
Merci encore pour ton aide !
Ptilou
Re: [Squeeze] Installer un nouveau module
Le samedi 04 juin 2011 à 15:31 +0200, Ken-Patrick Lehrmann a écrit : Salut, il n'y a pas assez de précision pour comprendre ce que tu veux faire. Le 04/06/2011 09:47, JB a écrit : Bonjour, sur ma version stable Debian Squeeze, je voudrais installer un nouveau module, C'est à dire ? Quel module ? Pourquoi faire ? mon probléme, pas de source du kernel, Pourquoi est-ce un problème ? le fichier config pas de problème, Quel fichier config ? connaissez-vous un howto SVP? merci d'avance JB Ken-Patrick bonjour, pour installer un nouveau module, dans le temps on faisait un make xconfig, make modules make modules-install le fichier .config sert en entrée à xconfig avec le répertoire /usr/src/linux il se trouve dans /boot le module serait netfilter A= JB -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1307203202.3274.9.camel@alpha30
Re: [Squeeze] Installer un nouveau module
Bonjour, Le samedi 04 juin 2011, JB a écrit... pour installer un nouveau module, dans le temps on faisait un make xconfig, make modules make modules-install le fichier .config sert en entrée à xconfig avec le répertoire /usr/src/linux il se trouve dans /boot le module serait netfilter Un peu plus tôt dans l'échelle du temps, j'utilisais make-kpkg pour construire mes noyaux. Il y a une cible pour les modules. A voir ? -- jm -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110604160331.GA8200@espinasse
Re: chrome et le son
Le 04/06/2011 17:46, philippe L a écrit :
Bonjour,
OUI, je sais pas pourquoi se matin en allumant debian j'ai le son sur chrome !
Mais j'ai plus de son avec totem :-(
Le 2 juin 2011 23:53, Bernard Schoenacker bernard.schoenac...@free.fr
mailto:bernard.schoenac...@free.fr a écrit :
bonjour,
menfin faut pas pousser
apt-get dist-upgrade
PC-de-ptilou:/home/ptilou# apt-get dist-upgrade
Lecture des listes de paquets... Fait
Construction de l'arbre des dépendances
Lecture des informations d'état... Fait
Calcul de la mise à jour... Fait
0 mis à jour, 0 nouvellement installés, 0 à enlever et 0 non mis à jour.
et par où sont passés les plugins gstreamer ?
ensuite que donne :
cat /etc/apt/sources.list
PC-de-ptilou:/home/ptilou# cat /etc/apt/sources.list
#
# deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 5.0.4 _Lenny_ - Official i386 NETINST Binary-1
20100201-16:45]/ lenny main
# deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 5.0.4 _Lenny_ - Official i386 NETINST Binary-1
20100201-16:45]/ lenny main
deb http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ lenny main
deb-src http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ lenny main
deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main
deb-src http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main
deb http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile lenny/volatile main
deb http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ lenny-proposed-updates main
deb-src http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ lenny-proposed-updates main
deb-src http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile lenny/volatile main
pour info j'ai le son avec chromium ...
J'ai fait apt-get install chromium, je me retrouve avec un jeu video chromium
BSU ?
reste à voir avec mplayer
dpkg -l |grep ii |awk '{print$2 $3 }' |grep mplayer
mplayer 1.0~rc2-17+lenny3.2
mplayer-skin-blue 1.6-2
gnome-mplayer 0.9.9.2-1
mplayer-doc 3:1.0~rc4+svn2
mplayer-nogui 3:1.0~rc4+svn2
mplayer2 1:2.0~git20110
Quand je fais apt-get install le_nom_du_paquet, il trouve pas le paquet ?
attention au différentes version disponibles suivant les dépots
déclarés ...
Je pense que sa viens du source.list ?
Merci encore pour ton aide !
Ptilou
J'avais résolu un problème similaire avec un alsa force-reload !
A tout hasard, ça peut te permettre d'avoir le son pour tout le monde !
++
Mourad
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Re: [HS] Re: Iceweasel super lent
Le 02/06/2011 15:11, Nicolas FRANCOIS a écrit : Le Wed, 1 Jun 2011 09:45:33 +0200, Antoine Podvinapod...@gmail.com a écrit : Personnellement j'utilise Noscript. Avec une machine un peu vieillote: y'a plus beaucoup des sites grand public utilisables sans ce type d'outil. Idée: As-tu tenté une réinitialisation de la configuration de Iceweasel (renommage du répertoire avant le lancement) ? Bin, j'y pense, j'ai juste un soucis : vu que j'ai une bonne dizaine de milliers d'entrées dans mes signets, et une centaine de mots de passe sauvegardés, j'aimerais ne pas perdre cette partie de la configuration. Le reste, je crois pouvoir m'en passer. \bye Peut-être peux-tu commencer par un safe-mode pour voir si c'est un plugin qui est incriminé ! $ iceweasel -safe-mode en ligne de commande... C'est moins bourrin que de supprimer le profil et ça te permettra d'avancer par rapport à ce problème ! ++ Mourad -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4dea593f.9090...@nativobject.net
solution pour serveur hébergé
Bonjour à tous, J'ai un serveur hébergé. Il n'y a pas de console de gestion, permettant d'agir à distance : le démarrer, modifier ses fichiers en mode partitions non montés, comme à partir d'un Live-CD. (comme le propose bien des hébergeurs) L'avantage est que l'hébergement m'est offert gracieusement. La seule connexion possible est donc via SSH (ou équivalent...). En cas de démarrage ou reboot impossible, à cause d'un software bloquant, je dois alors me déplacer physiquement dans la salle machines, (qui est loin et avec toutes les contraintes, bruit infernal, température de congélateur, pas de table de travail, pas de moniteur ...) pour dépanner le serveur. Connaissez vous une solution me permettant de contourner ce problème ? Pouvoir agir sur la machine à distance : -via un menu d'aiguillage au boot =Live-CD OU Linux sur le DD, -par une solution, Linux installée en mode virtuel ? Grand merci d'une idée. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201106041812.49715.cor...@free.fr
Re: Script Bash, prendre en considération l'espace dans les noms de fichier
On sam. 04 juin.2011 à 15:50:27, Tahar BEN ACHOUR wrote: une idée, pour éviter ce souci ? ne pas utiliser ls dans une boucle for, car pour un fichier nommer 'my file', la boucle itérera sur 'my', puis sur 'file'. la bonne méthode est : for file in ./* do echo rar e \$file\ #pour voir, et si c'est correct : do rar e $file done -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110604160247.ga3...@chorion.ath.cx
Re: FireFox me donne du soucis
Le samedi 04 juin 2011, Mourad Jaber a écrit : Depuis plusieurs jours FireFox me donne du soucis : --- Firefox a rencontré un problème et a planté. Nous essaierons de restaurer vos onglets et fenêtres lors de son redémarrage. --- Je dois fermer le navigateur. Je me vois aussi proposer d'envoyer l'incident à FireFox, et d'être contacté par l'équipe du navigateur ... Avez vous ce type de problèmes avec FireFox, quels seraient les causes et les remèdes ? Celà peut-il venir d'un site en particulier ? linbe li...@gmail.com Avez vous installer des modules/plugins/extensions a Firefox dernièrement? Le plus souvent, se sont ses extensions qui posent problèmes a cette outil. Il faudra donc les desativer et tester une a une!! firefox installé comment ? : Je suis entrain de tester ... mais j'ai peu de plugins : acrobat reader et shockwave flash - le firefox proposé par debian est iceweasel et il fonctionne sans soucis (je butine avec le 4.0.1 depuis plusieurs mois...) : Je suis sous FireFox pur, téléchargé sur le site, placé dans mon /home/user. As-tu essayé de lancer firefox dans une console, histoire de voir les vrai messages d'erreur ? : Oui, mais pas de messages ... As-tu essayé de lancer firefox en safe-mode histoire de déterminer si c'est un des plugins qui provoque ce plantage ? Mourad Bonne idée mais comment fait-on ? -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201106041817.57599.cor...@free.fr
Re: [Squeeze] Installer un nouveau module
’jour, Le samedi 4 juin 2011 à 18:03:31, Jean-Michel OLTRA a écrit : Le samedi 04 juin 2011, JB a écrit... pour installer un nouveau module, dans le temps on faisait un make xconfig, make modules make modules-install le fichier .config sert en entrée à xconfig avec le répertoire /usr/src/linux il se trouve dans /boot le module serait netfilter Un peu plus tôt dans l'échelle du temps, j'utilisais make-kpkg pour construire mes noyaux. Il y a une cible pour les modules. A voir ? http://wiki.debian.org/fr/Kernel -- Sylvain Sauvage -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201106041819.33287.sylvain.l.sauv...@free.fr
Re: solution pour serveur hébergé
Le 04/06/2011 18:12, cor...@free.fr a écrit : Bonjour à tous, J'ai un serveur hébergé. Il n'y a pas de console de gestion, permettant d'agir à distance : le démarrer, modifier ses fichiers en mode partitions non montés, comme à partir d'un Live-CD. (comme le propose bien des hébergeurs) L'avantage est que l'hébergement m'est offert gracieusement. La seule connexion possible est donc via SSH (ou équivalent...). En cas de démarrage ou reboot impossible, à cause d'un software bloquant, je dois alors me déplacer physiquement dans la salle machines, (qui est loin et avec toutes les contraintes, bruit infernal, température de congélateur, pas de table de travail, pas de moniteur ...) pour dépanner le serveur. Connaissez vous une solution me permettant de contourner ce problème ? Pouvoir agir sur la machine à distance : -via un menu d'aiguillage au boot =Live-CD OU Linux sur le DD, -par une solution, Linux installée en mode virtuel ? Grand merci d'une idée. Peut être du coté de wakeonlan http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wake-on-LAN si ça peut aider, :) librement jipe -- Linux 2.6.36.2-desktop-2mnb x86_64 Mandriva 2010.2 Henry_Farman http://www.liness.org - http://jiperaw.darqroom.com/images -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4dea5b8f.50...@free.fr
Re: [Squeeze] Installer un nouveau module
Le samedi 04 juin 2011 à 18:19 +0200, Sylvain L. Sauvage a écrit : ’jour, Le samedi 4 juin 2011 à 18:03:31, Jean-Michel OLTRA a écrit : Le samedi 04 juin 2011, JB a écrit... pour installer un nouveau module, dans le temps on faisait un make xconfig, make modules make modules-install le fichier .config sert en entrée à xconfig avec le répertoire /usr/src/linux il se trouve dans /boot le module serait netfilter Un peu plus tôt dans l'échelle du temps, j'utilisais make-kpkg pour construire mes noyaux. Il y a une cible pour les modules. A voir ? http://wiki.debian.org/fr/Kernel -- Sylvain Sauvage merci A+ JB -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1307206185.4126.0.camel@alpha30
Re: solution pour serveur hébergé
Le samedi 04 juin 2011, Jean-Pierre-Pascaud a écrit : Le 04/06/2011 18:12, cor...@free.fr a écrit : J'ai un serveur hébergé. Il n'y a pas de console de gestion, permettant d'agir à distance : le démarrer, modifier ses fichiers en mode partitions non montés, comme à partir d'un Live-CD. (comme le propose bien des hébergeurs) L'avantage est que l'hébergement m'est offert gracieusement. La seule connexion possible est donc via SSH (ou équivalent...). En cas de démarrage ou reboot impossible, à cause d'un software bloquant, je dois alors me déplacer physiquement dans la salle machines, (qui est loin et avec toutes les contraintes, bruit infernal, température de congélateur, pas de table de travail, pas de moniteur ...) pour dépanner le serveur. Connaissez vous une solution me permettant de contourner ce problème ? Pouvoir agir sur la machine à distance : -via un menu d'aiguillage au boot =Live-CD OU Linux sur le DD, -par une solution, Linux installée en mode virtuel ? Peut être du coté de wakeonlan http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wake-on-LAN si ça peut aider, :) librement jipe Merci, mais c'est une solution partielle : si le serveur se bloque au boot, à cause d'un problème software, je ne peux alors qu'intervenir physiquement devant lui. Il faudrait pouvoir rebooter à distance sur un Live-CD, ou un autre OS installé en parallèle, (modes rescue réparation) ou sur l'OS serveur installé en dur si tout va bien. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201106041857.51765.cor...@free.fr
Re: chrome et le son
Le Sat, 4 Jun 2011 17:46:43 +0200,
philippe L pti...@gmail.com a écrit :
Bonjour,
OUI, je sais pas pourquoi se matin en allumant debian j'ai le son sur
chrome !
Mais j'ai plus de son avec totem :-(
Le 2 juin 2011 23:53, Bernard Schoenacker
bernard.schoenac...@free.fr a écrit :
bonjour,
menfin faut pas pousser
apt-get dist-upgrade
PC-de-ptilou:/home/ptilou# apt-get dist-upgrade
Lecture des listes de paquets... Fait
Construction de l'arbre des dépendances
Lecture des informations d'état... Fait
Calcul de la mise à jour... Fait
0 mis à jour, 0 nouvellement installés, 0 à enlever et 0 non mis à
jour.
et par où sont passés les plugins gstreamer ?
ensuite que donne :
cat /etc/apt/sources.list
PC-de-ptilou:/home/ptilou# cat /etc/apt/sources.list
#
# deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 5.0.4 _Lenny_ - Official i386 NETINST
Binary-1 20100201-16:45]/ lenny main
# deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 5.0.4 _Lenny_ - Official i386 NETINST
Binary-1 20100201-16:45]/ lenny main
deb http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ lenny main
deb-src http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ lenny main
deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main
deb-src http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main
deb http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile lenny/volatile main
deb http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ lenny-proposed-updates main
deb-src http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ lenny-proposed-updates main
deb-src http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile lenny/volatile main
pour info j'ai le son avec chromium ...
J'ai fait apt-get install chromium, je me retrouve avec un jeu video
chromium BSU ?
reste à voir avec mplayer
dpkg -l |grep ii |awk '{print$2 $3 }' |grep mplayer
mplayer 1.0~rc2-17+lenny3.2
mplayer-skin-blue 1.6-2
gnome-mplayer 0.9.9.2-1
mplayer-doc 3:1.0~rc4+svn2
mplayer-nogui 3:1.0~rc4+svn2
mplayer2 1:2.0~git20110
Quand je fais apt-get install le_nom_du_paquet, il trouve pas le
paquet ?
attention au différentes version disponibles suivant les dépots
déclarés ...
Je pense que sa viens du source.list ?
Merci encore pour ton aide !
Ptilou
bonjour,
rogntudju!!
voici en premier une solution (root) :
cat /etc/apt/sources.list |grep http |sed -e 's/lenny/squeeze/g'
/etc/apt/sources.list-1
cat /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.BAK
cat /etc/apt/sources.list-1 /etc/apt/sources.list
apt-get update
apt-get install apt aptitude libncurses5 libncurses5-dev libncursesw5
libncursesw5-dev linux-image-2.6.32-5-686 dkms firmware-linux firmware-linux
firmware-linux usbprog-gui
apt-get upgrade
apt-get dist-upgrade
slt
bernard
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Re: solution pour serveur hébergé
Le Sat, 4 Jun 2011 18:12:49 +0200, cor...@free.fr a écrit : Bonjour à tous, J'ai un serveur hébergé. Il n'y a pas de console de gestion, permettant d'agir à distance : le démarrer, modifier ses fichiers en mode partitions non montés, comme à partir d'un Live-CD. (comme le propose bien des hébergeurs) L'avantage est que l'hébergement m'est offert gracieusement. La seule connexion possible est donc via SSH (ou équivalent...). En cas de démarrage ou reboot impossible, à cause d'un software bloquant, je dois alors me déplacer physiquement dans la salle machines, (qui est loin et avec toutes les contraintes, bruit infernal, température de congélateur, pas de table de travail, pas de moniteur ...) pour dépanner le serveur. Connaissez vous une solution me permettant de contourner ce problème ? Pouvoir agir sur la machine à distance : -via un menu d'aiguillage au boot =Live-CD OU Linux sur le DD, -par une solution, Linux installée en mode virtuel ? Grand merci d'une idée. bonjour, pourquoi ne pas employer un tty sur le port série ? article traitant d'une solution alternative : http://blog-marcel.eu/index.php?article66/zssh-un-scp-dans-ssh il s'agit simplement d'employer zssh slt bernard -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110604192209.3ee8c594.bernard.schoenac...@free.fr
Re: solution pour serveur hébergé
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le 04/06/2011 19:00, cor...@free.fr a écrit : Merci, mais c'est une solution partielle : si le serveur se bloque au boot, à cause d'un problème software, je ne peux alors qu'intervenir physiquement devant lui. Il faudrait pouvoir rebooter à distance sur un Live-CD, ou un autre OS installé en parallèle, (modes rescue réparation) ou sur l'OS serveur installé en dur si tout va bien. Il y a bien des solutions mais elles coûtent généralement chères… Pour le reboot à distance, polgo obligatoire (sortes de multiprises avec une connectique IP) Et pour le contrôle à distance, KVM IP (transfert l'écran, la souris et le clavier par le réseau). Mais ce matériel coûte cher (500€ un iKVM, quasiment autan un polgo) - -- Aeris -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJN6nTzAAoJEK8zQvxDY4P9MiQH+gNlpltutGeAn0nFL2TaXQTs 7JjcZQvyw5cYGchSg9+I4ptssYYujz++MoL9Z/wCJHDHFJ5lQvzBk6pDfN0UDPPT pREps8pTFyOr+IgN/xr3oCWGD69SaI+172UzQ4ZfVcFVKmmc4+zypmuSHSVxv2YG n/7pact+WLNcUUhF+ds4VC1Z3oF/jVEFoh9GaOotWy/eYCxiQrKIhmC5ZRKDmaJI wD7KIvuJode/MEzT9mhzGYqbPJQpWccnLWqEh3ID+MZouBoIa2MRNWEmjuwaO2jX 7nK2lUAY5UJ/R7Mk4TixnPZoCajY6e2szJwTaM5vogn+TKxUuZySPOdBIB8XrHY= =cC9s -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4dea74f8$0$7337$426a7...@news.free.fr
Re: solution pour serveur hébergé
Le 4 juin 2011 20:10, Aéris ae...@imirhil.fr a écrit : -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le 04/06/2011 19:00, cor...@free.fr a écrit : Merci, mais c'est une solution partielle : si le serveur se bloque au boot, à cause d'un problème software, je ne peux alors qu'intervenir physiquement devant lui. Il faudrait pouvoir rebooter à distance sur un Live-CD, ou un autre OS installé en parallèle, (modes rescue réparation) ou sur l'OS serveur installé en dur si tout va bien. Il y a bien des solutions mais elles coûtent généralement chères… Ne connaissant pas le domaine, je vais certainement sortir une ânerie, mais est-ce qu'il n'est pas possible d'imaginer une solution à base de virtualisation ? Par exemple, l'OS hébergeur contient très très peu de logiciel, limitant la gestion et les risques de pannes. Ce dernier propose alors une console SSH toujours disponible. Autre idée (farfelue) : une solution à base de watchdog. Un logiciel veille au bon fonctionnement du service. Si celui-ci est défaillant, la machine est rebootée. Idéalement, il faut une solution matérielle. Ensuite, peut-être qu'on peut scripter un peu pour détecter N reboot en tant de temps et forcer un démarrage en mode par défaut (un init level contenant le réseau, mais pas les services susceptibles de défaillir). Bon courage. -- Guilhem BONNEFILLE -=- JID: gu...@im.apinc.org MSN: guilhem_bonnefi...@hotmail.com -=- mailto:guilhem.bonnefi...@gmail.com -=- http://nathguil.free.fr/ -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/BANLkTi=zvz4gbh3kpdeah5mkepdsjx+...@mail.gmail.com
Re: solution pour serveur hébergé
Mettre une carte drack ou ikvm (kvm over ethernet) Philippe Envoyé de mon iPhone ---——---—-- Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe. Albert Einstein Le 4 juin 2011 à 21:18, Guilhem Bonnefille guilhem.bonnefi...@gmail.com a écrit : Le 4 juin 2011 20:10, Aéris ae...@imirhil.fr a écrit : -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le 04/06/2011 19:00, cor...@free.fr a écrit : Merci, mais c'est une solution partielle : si le serveur se bloque au boot, à cause d'un problème software, je ne peux alors qu'intervenir physiquement devant lui. Il faudrait pouvoir rebooter à distance sur un Live-CD, ou un autre OS installé en parallèle, (modes rescue réparation) ou sur l'OS serveur installé en dur si tout va bien. Il y a bien des solutions mais elles coûtent généralement chèr es… Ne connaissant pas le domaine, je vais certainement sortir une âneri e, mais est-ce qu'il n'est pas possible d'imaginer une solution à base de virtualisation ? Par exemple, l'OS hébergeur contient très très peu de logiciel, limitant la gestion et les risques de pannes. Ce dernier propose alors une console SSH toujours disponible. Autre idée (farfelue) : une solution à base de watchdog. Un logiciel veille au bon fonctionnement du service. Si celui-ci est défaillant, la machine est rebootée. Idéalement, il faut une solution matériell e. Ensuite, peut-être qu'on peut scripter un peu pour détecter N reboot en tant de temps et forcer un démarrage en mode par défaut (un in it level contenant le réseau, mais pas les services susceptibles de défaillir). Bon courage. -- Guilhem BONNEFILLE -=- JID: gu...@im.apinc.org MSN: guilhem_bonnefi...@hotmail.com -=- mailto:guilhem.bonnefi...@gmail.com -=- http://nathguil.free.fr/ -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/BANLkTi=zvz4gbh3kpdeah5mkepdsjx+...@mail.gmail.com -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/e56ad0e9-3ce4-40c4-ab71-0175d66e8...@leworm.fr
Re: Lenny : Point de montage abimé lors d'un fusermount -u
Le Saturday 04 June 2011 15:15:26 JF Straeten, vous avez écrit : Re, On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 07:00:30AM +0200, Philippe wrote: $ ls -l ls: ne peut accéder vafac: Aucun fichier ou répertoire de ce type total 37220 drwxr-xr-x 2 user groupe 4096 jun 3 22:40 mountmach05 drwxr-xr-x 2 user groupe 4096 jun 3 22:40 mountmach15 d? ? ?? ?? vafac = démontage puis faire un fsck avec le bonnes options = ce n'est pas obligatoirement le mount en cause mais surement ton disque qui est en train de mourir J'ai déjà vu ça quand un client NFS/NIS n'accède plus aux cartes NIS... NIS est actif ? Non, NIS n'est pas actif. -- Alain Vaugham Clef GPG : 0xD26D18BC -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201106042254.10695.al...@vaugham.com
Re: FireFox me donne du soucis
Le 04/06/2011 18:17, cor...@free.fr a écrit : Le samedi 04 juin 2011, Mourad Jaber a écrit : Depuis plusieurs jours FireFox me donne du soucis : --- Firefox a rencontré un problème et a planté. Nous essaierons de restaurer vos onglets et fenêtres lors de son redémarrage. --- Je dois fermer le navigateur. Je me vois aussi proposer d'envoyer l'incident à FireFox, et d'être contacté par l'équipe du navigateur ... Avez vous ce type de problèmes avec FireFox, quels seraient les causes et les remèdes ? Celà peut-il venir d'un site en particulier ? linbe li...@gmail.com Avez vous installer des modules/plugins/extensions a Firefox dernièrement? Le plus souvent, se sont ses extensions qui posent problèmes a cette outil. Il faudra donc les desativer et tester une a une!! firefox installé comment ? : Je suis entrain de tester ... mais j'ai peu de plugins : acrobat reader et shockwave flash c'est peut-être peu, mais c'est les pires. et ce, même sur windows. - le firefox proposé par debian est iceweasel et il fonctionne sans soucis (je butine avec le 4.0.1 depuis plusieurs mois...) : Je suis sous FireFox pur, téléchargé sur le site, placé dans mon /home/user. As-tu essayé de lancer firefox dans une console, histoire de voir les vrai messages d'erreur ? : Oui, mais pas de messages ... As-tu essayé de lancer firefox en safe-mode histoire de déterminer si c'est un des plugins qui provoque ce plantage ? Mourad Bonne idée mais comment fait-on ? -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110604215946.d408013a6...@liszt.debian.org
Re: Script Bash, prendre en considération l'espace dans les noms de fichier
Le 04/06/2011 16:50, Tahar BEN ACHOUR a écrit : Bonjour à tous, J'ai un petit soucis avec un petit script j'ai un dossier dans lequel je voudrais extraire tous les fichiers qui s'y trouvent, mon script est le suivant for myfile in $(ls) do rar e $myfile done le problème c'est que tous les fichiers sont nommés avec des espaces comme séparateur et le script considère chaque mot comme fichier à part ! Comment faire pour prendre en considération l'espace dans le nom de fichier ? for agit sur chacun des petits bouts, qui sont séparés par des espaces (tu peux changer le séparateur, mais gare à toi...). il faut utiliser autre chose. ls | while read file; do macommande $file; done on peut aussi s'amuser avec find/xargs/... Merci pour votre aide par exemple si j'ai un fichier nommé mon fichier.rar en remplaçant rar e $myfile par echo $myfile j'ai le réslutat suivant mon fichier une idée, pour éviter ce souci ? Merci -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110604220501.cb11313a6...@liszt.debian.org
Re: solution pour serveur hébergé
Le 04/06/2011 18:12, cor...@free.fr a écrit : Bonjour à tous, J'ai un serveur hébergé. Il n'y a pas de console de gestion, permettant d'agir à distance : le démarrer, modifier ses fichiers en mode partitions non montés, comme à partir d'un Live-CD. (comme le propose bien des hébergeurs) L'avantage est que l'hébergement m'est offert gracieusement. La seule connexion possible est donc via SSH (ou équivalent...). En cas de démarrage ou reboot impossible, à cause d'un software bloquant, si un software bloque le démarrage, alors c'est un gros gros bug et il faut le corriger. je dois alors me déplacer physiquement dans la salle machines, (qui est loin et avec toutes les contraintes, bruit infernal, température de congélateur, pas de table de travail, pas de moniteur ...) pour dépanner le serveur. Connaissez vous une solution me permettant de contourner ce problème ? Pouvoir agir sur la machine à distance : -via un menu d'aiguillage au boot =Live-CD OU Linux sur le DD, si ton hébergeur n'offre pas d'accès rescue, y a rien à faire. imagine un peu la situation si _moi_ je pouvais faire démarrer _ton_ système? (et ne me dis pas, mais y aura authentification et tout et tout. parce que là, ça voudrait dire que le système bas niveau est très très avancé, tellement avancé que c'est un OS à part entière...) -par une solution, Linux installée en mode virtuel ? ça ne suffira pas. si tu as de la discipline, et s'il n'y a pas de gros bugs, tu n'as pas besoin de virtualisation. et même si tu virtualises, rien n'est gagné... -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110604223101.0193f13a5...@liszt.debian.org
Re: solution pour serveur hébergé
-par une solution, Linux installée en mode virtuel ? ça ne suffira pas. si tu as de la discipline, et s'il n'y a pas de gros bugs, tu n'as pas besoin de virtualisation. et même si tu virtualises, rien n'est gagné... Sans vraie virtualisation, ça me sert justement beaucoup d'avoir tous mes services dans des conteneurs LXC dans un cas tout à fait comparable au problème posé. Je peux péter les scripts d'init dans mes conteneurs par exemple, ça ne modifie rien sur l'hôte. C'est particulièrement utilise pour les mises à jour de sécurité, l'hôte ayant très peu de programmes installés, il ne redémarre que pour des mises à jour noyau et son démarrage ne devrait jamais poser de problème. À l'inverse les conteneurs peuvent être redémarrés à loisir. Cette approche pseudo-virtualisée satisferait donc peut-être corbie. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Problema Resolución Pantalla y Tamaño de Letra para Squeeze en Modo Consola
On Viernes, 3 de Junio de 2011 19:06:20 BasaBuru escribió: Hola Me surge una nueva duda sobre lo que creo que se llama framebuffer, aunque ya es sólo a modo de curiosidad más que otra cosa, puede que sea un off-topic, no lo sé ... Ya sé que el framebuffer no es como una consola en la que puedas hacer scroll para ver el contenido que desapareció por la parte superior, pero ... ¿cómo lo hacéis vosotros? ¿hay alguna manera más rápida que tirar el resultado de los comandos a un fichero con ''? ... porque no siempre esto último es posible. Bueno, ... un saludo a todos. Te estas refieriendo a la salida del arranque del sistema?? Si no te estas refiriendo a la salida de arranque sino a la consola. Por ejemplo en konsole le puedes decir que el scrollback sea ilimitado de forma que puedes ver todo el buffer. un saludo BasaBuru -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201106040858.54752.basab...@basatu.org
Re: Problema Resolución Pantalla y Tamaño de Letra para Squeeze en Modo Consola
Hola
2011/6/3 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com:
El Fri, 03 Jun 2011 18:27:46 +0200, Gorka escribió:
Muchas gracias a todos. Efectivamente, lo que todos me apuntáis, era
así:
To set a screen resolution for your console you can do the following log
in as root edit /etc/default/grub uncomment the GRUB_GFXMODE=640x480 and
change the resolution to something you can use e.g. 1024x768 edit
/etc/grub.d/00_header search for: set gfxmode=${GRUB_GFXMODE} on the
next line insert: set gfxpayload=keep verify that the new line is before
insmod gfxterm run update-grub
run reboot to confirm that your changes worked!
Me faltaba lo del 00_header.
Me surge una nueva duda sobre lo que creo que se llama framebuffer,
aunque ya es sólo a modo de curiosidad más que otra cosa, puede que sea
un off-topic, no lo sé ... Ya sé que el framebuffer no es como una
consola en la que puedas hacer scroll para ver el contenido que
desapareció por la parte superior, pero ... ¿cómo lo hacéis vosotros?
¿hay alguna manera más rápida que tirar el resultado de los comandos a
un fichero con ''? ... porque no siempre esto último es posible. Bueno,
... un saludo a todos.
Personalmente me paso el 99.999% del tiempo con Midnight Commander, digo,
en los servidores donde no tengo instalado entorno gráfico. Este programa
es la navaja suiza para entornos sin GUI, te facilita un montón el
trabajo del día a día y permite, entre otras cosas, moverte por la
consola con las teclas Re.Pág/Av.Pág, así como gestionar el
wrapping (activarlo/desactivarlo) cuando estás visualizando el
contenido de un archivo, una gozada :-)
Servidores con entorno gráfico !! ??? Ag. No me imagino qué
puedo hacer, en un servidor, más rápido desde el gui que desde la
línea de comandos mediante ssh. Todavía no entiendo por qué no hacen
que vaya más rápido el ssh -X :(
Con less tienes la opción -S (tanto desde la línea de comandos como
cuando estás leyendo los ficheros) para que te muestren las líneas
largas en la misma línea.
Lo del mc es cuestión de gustos, yo uso directamente el bash
aprovechando cada vez más las características de readline (una
auténtica gozada, merece la pena leer el manual)
Un saludo
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Re: Instalación desde una memoria usb
Hola, El jue, 26-05-2011 a las 17:16 -0400, Adrián Alemán Cruz escribió: Hola, El jue, 26-05-2011 a las 18:36 +0200, julio escribió: El mié, 25-05-2011 a las 16:59 -0500, Marcos Delgado escribió: # cat debian.iso /dev/sdX # sync /dev/sdX es el dispositivo donde tengas el pincho USB. Y ahora solo hay que arrancar el ordenador diciendole a la BIOS que arranque desde el pincho. Un saludo JulHer Eso hay que probarlo. En cuanto lo pruebes no querrás hacer pinchos arrancables con imágenes de Debian de otro modo. Es tremendamente sencillo y lo mejor es que funciona. Un saludo Inicio la instalación perfectamente desde la memoria usb con Debian GNU/Linux 5 (Lenny), luego en el paso donde detecta y monta la unidad lectora de cd se detiene y no me deja continuar la instalación desde la memoria usb. Qué puede estar pasando? Saludos afectuosos, Adrián. -- Este mensaje le ha llegado mediante el servicio de correo electronico que ofrece Infomed para respaldar el cumplimiento de las misiones del Sistema Nacional de Salud. La persona que envia este correo asume el compromiso de usar el servicio a tales fines y cumplir con las regulaciones establecidas Infomed: http://www.sld.cu/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1307194489.3206.7.camel@pcdebian
tipificar tráfico de red
Buenas a todos. Me gustaría saber en que se está gastando el ancho de banda y hacia donde se va, de 3 sedes que administro. Una de ellas es la central, en la que tengo firewall, en las otras 2 no tengo firewall y salen a internet directamente. Entonces, por donde puedo empezar para saber que tráfico va de una sede a otro, que tráfico va para internet, etc.. Tanto de subida como de bajada. Tengo implementado cacti, pero ahí no puedo ver donde va el tráfico, solo veo el total de subida o bajada.
Re: tipificar tráfico de red
2011/6/4 Esteban Torres Rodríguez mortenol.tor...@gmail.com: Buenas a todos. Me gustaría saber en que se está gastando el ancho de banda y hacia donde se va, de 3 sedes que administro. Una de ellas es la central, en la que tengo firewall, en las otras 2 no tengo firewall y salen a internet directamente. Entonces, por donde puedo empezar para saber que tráfico va de una sede a otro, que tráfico va para internet, etc.. Tanto de subida como de bajada. Tengo implementado cacti, pero ahí no puedo ver donde va el tráfico, solo veo el total de subida o bajada. Hola Esteban: Buenos dias (11:22 AM en Chile), el otro dia estata buscando lo mismo y encontre este link: Ojala que te sirva: http://crysol.org/es/node/1075 Saludos!
Re: tipificar tráfico de red
El día 4 de junio de 2011 10:15, Esteban Torres Rodríguez mortenol.tor...@gmail.com escribió: Buenas a todos. Me gustaría saber en que se está gastando el ancho de banda y hacia donde se va, de 3 sedes que administro. Una de ellas es la central, en la que tengo firewall, en las otras 2 no tengo firewall y salen a internet directamente. Entonces, por donde puedo empezar para saber que tráfico va de una sede a otro, que tráfico va para internet, etc.. Tanto de subida como de bajada. Helo, por que no hechas un vistazo a Ntop [1], con esta herramienta, en algún momento hacia yo los análisis del consumo del ancho de banda. Tiene puedes ver el resumen [2] de las cosas que puede hacer. [1] http://www.ntop.org/news.php [2] http://www.ntop.org/overview.html Tengo implementado cacti, pero ahí no puedo ver donde va el tráfico, solo veo el total de subida o bajada. -- ceduard0 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/BANLkTimYJ29aJzX0GhV1jBj9Xk=rna6...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Instalación desde una memoria usb
El sáb, 04-06-2011 a las 09:34 -0400, Adrián Alemán Cruz escribió: Hola, El jue, 26-05-2011 a las 17:16 -0400, Adrián Alemán Cruz escribió: Hola, El jue, 26-05-2011 a las 18:36 +0200, julio escribió: El mié, 25-05-2011 a las 16:59 -0500, Marcos Delgado escribió: # cat debian.iso /dev/sdX # sync /dev/sdX es el dispositivo donde tengas el pincho USB. Y ahora solo hay que arrancar el ordenador diciendole a la BIOS que arranque desde el pincho. Un saludo JulHer Eso hay que probarlo. En cuanto lo pruebes no querrás hacer pinchos arrancables con imágenes de Debian de otro modo. Es tremendamente sencillo y lo mejor es que funciona. Un saludo Inicio la instalación perfectamente desde la memoria usb con Debian GNU/Linux 5 (Lenny), luego en el paso donde detecta y monta la unidad lectora de cd se detiene y no me deja continuar la instalación desde la memoria usb. Qué puede estar pasando? Saludos afectuosos, Adrián. fijate en las consolas de error que mensajes de error y/o informativos hay. Vas a encontrarlas con alt-f3, f4, f5... (no estoy seguro cual era, pero se que la segunda consola (alt-f2) era un shell auxiliar) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1307206806.1979.1.camel@gonzalo
Re: Problema Resolución Pantalla y Tamaño de Letra para Squeeze en Modo Consola
El día 4 de junio de 2011 04:26, Javier Barroso javibarr...@gmail.com escribió: Hola ... Lo del mc es cuestión de gustos, yo uso directamente el bash aprovechando cada vez más las características de readline (una auténtica gozada, merece la pena leer el manual) Un saludo ¿Cuál manual? saludos. Marcos Delgado. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/BANLkTi=rfb8nspcxowss+y+4j4m7kfo...@mail.gmail.com
Cuelgue del sistema al conectar wifi
Hola Tengo un netbook asus eeepc 904HD con squeeze+KDE4 que se cuelga por completo cada vez que intento establecer una conexión wifi usando KNetworkManager. En el momento que pulso Conectar la pantalla se queda negra y tengo que reiniciar el equipo manteniendo pulsado el interruptor. Esto ocurre sólo si selecciono como modo de conexión Infrastructure; en modo Ad-hoc no se cuelga, me pide la contraseña una y otra vez, pero nunca conecta. Tengo instalado el controlador ath5k [1] [1] http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC/HowTo/UseUpstreamAtherosModules -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4de8b493.7030...@orangecorreo.es
Re: Problema Resolución Pantalla y Tamaño de Letra para Squeeze en Modo Consola
2011/6/4 Marcos Delgado juanm...@gmail.com: El día 4 de junio de 2011 04:26, Javier Barroso javibarr...@gmail.com escribió: Hola ... Lo del mc es cuestión de gustos, yo uso directamente el bash aprovechando cada vez más las características de readline (una auténtica gozada, merece la pena leer el manual) Un saludo ¿Cuál manual? man bash = /Commands for Manipulating the History o man bash = /^READLINE La verdad es que he alucinado (desde hace unos meses) con el siguiente consejo (hasta que no he usado la línea de comandos más de X? años no me he dado cuenta :-) ): yank-last-arg (M-., M-_): Esto quiere decir que si pulsas Alt-2 Alt-. escribirás el segundo argumento de la línea anterior (y si pulsas Alt-. el último que suele ser bastante útil) Eso sí, si se usa algun terminal que con alt-\d (notación perl) cambie de pestaña, la configuración de dicho terminal debe ser cambiada para que rule el tema que comento Espero que le resulte util a alguien ;) Saludos! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/banlktikdsxksk+77nverqpf7naihhp-...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Terminal realmente transparente en debian
Saludos Soy nuevo en la lista, tengo debian instalado en virtualbox para ver si puedo dejarlo como tengo ubuntu para la posibilidad de pasarme, tengo varias dudas pero para no englobar varias cosas en un mismo remitente, solo los indico por seccion (correo). Se que esto puede ser algo de falta de interes para algunos, pero en mi caso al menos en ubuntu me es comodo tener la terminal con fondo transparente y poder teclear cosas en la terminal frente a paginas que me indican ciertas instrucciones, pero noto que en debian la transparencia realmente es algo falsa, ya que lo que hace es tomar una vista del wallpaper, si la terminal se encuentra frente a una ventana o pagina web, no muestra realmente su vista sino el wallpaper. Esto en debian esta corregido? De antemano, gracias por sus comentarios.
Re: Terminal realmente transparente en debian
El 04/06/11 23:34, José Diaz escribió: Saludos Soy nuevo en la lista, tengo debian instalado en virtualbox para ver si puedo dejarlo como tengo ubuntu para la posibilidad de pasarme, tengo varias dudas pero para no englobar varias cosas en un mismo remitente, solo los indico por seccion (correo). Se que esto puede ser algo de falta de interes para algunos, pero en mi caso al menos en ubuntu me es comodo tener la terminal con fondo transparente y poder teclear cosas en la terminal frente a paginas que me indican ciertas instrucciones, pero noto que en debian la transparencia realmente es algo falsa, ya que lo que hace es tomar una vista del wallpaper, si la terminal se encuentra frente a una ventana o pagina web, no muestra realmente su vista sino el wallpaper. Esto en debian esta corregido? De antemano, gracias por sus comentarios. Hola José, bienvenido. KDE resuelve eso de las transparencias activando los efectos de escritorio desde las Preferencias. Ignoro si Gnome tiene control de transparencias. ¿Qué escritorio estás usando? Saludos -- Sergio Bessopeanetto Buenos Aires. Argentina skype: sergio.bess jabber: sergio.b...@jabber.org msn: sergieb...@yahoo.com http://www.facebook.com/sergio.bess twitter: @sergiobess Linux counter: 486274 Correo enviado desde GNU/Linux Mint -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4deaee25.6040...@yahoo.com
Re: Terminal realmente transparente en debian
2011/6/4 José Diaz joc...@gmail.com: Saludos Soy nuevo en la lista, tengo debian instalado en virtualbox para ver si puedo dejarlo como tengo ubuntu para la posibilidad de pasarme, tengo varias dudas pero para no englobar varias cosas en un mismo remitente, solo los indico por seccion (correo). Se que esto puede ser algo de falta de interes para algunos, pero en mi caso al menos en ubuntu me es comodo tener la terminal con fondo transparente y poder teclear cosas en la terminal frente a paginas que me indican ciertas instrucciones, pero noto que en debian la transparencia realmente es algo falsa, ya que lo que hace es tomar una vista del wallpaper, si la terminal se encuentra frente a una ventana o pagina web, no muestra realmente su vista sino el wallpaper. Esto en debian esta corregido? De antemano, gracias por sus comentarios. Curiosamente esa transparencia falsa a mi me encanta, teniendo N ventanas activas mi trasnparencia es sobre mi fondo de pantalla, pero bueno gustos son gustos. -- Diego Chacón Rojas diego.cha...@gmail.com San Jose Costa Rica .-. /v\ L I N U X // \\ /( )\ ^^-^^ This is Unix-Land. In quiet nights, you can hear the Windows machines reboot USER 350910 MACHINE 244435 No me envie correos en formatos propietarios http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.es.html http://www.debian.org/intro/about.es.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/banlktiknpengpaotv2omv1eryq__mrk...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Terminal realmente transparente en debian
Hola José Personalmente se que cambiarse de ubuntu a debian es algo pesado pero solo al principio. La única clave es leer más y aprender más cosas, invertir tiempo y siempre estar listo para echar a perder una que otra instalación. Así que no dudes en preguntar pero sobre todo buscar mucho en la red la comunidad es grande, hay que ser muy autodidacta en este mundo. Te comento que no se realmente si la transparencia que llamas falsa se elimina en todas las versiones. Yo estoy usando un sistema Debian squeeze para AMD64 y tengo montados los controladores de mi tarjeta gráfica de ATI lo que me permitió levantar muy bien compiz-fusion. Cuando pongo transparente la terminal en efecto me la pone transparente y puedo ver la ventana o ventanas inmediatas al fondo ya sea con vídeo o con imagen estática. Pues suerte y que la fuerza este contigo. El 4 de junio de 2011 21:34, José Diaz joc...@gmail.com escribió: Saludos Soy nuevo en la lista, tengo debian instalado en virtualbox para ver si puedo dejarlo como tengo ubuntu para la posibilidad de pasarme, tengo varias dudas pero para no englobar varias cosas en un mismo remitente, solo los indico por seccion (correo). Se que esto puede ser algo de falta de interes para algunos, pero en mi caso al menos en ubuntu me es comodo tener la terminal con fondo transparente y poder teclear cosas en la terminal frente a paginas que me indican ciertas instrucciones, pero noto que en debian la transparencia realmente es algo falsa, ya que lo que hace es tomar una vista del wallpaper, si la terminal se encuentra frente a una ventana o pagina web, no muestra realmente su vista sino el wallpaper. Esto en debian esta corregido? De antemano, gracias por sus comentarios. -- Atte: Mario Rivas Medrano Laboratorio de Origen de la Vida Departamento de Biología Evolutiva Facultad de Ciencias, UNAM Telefono: 55-56224823 Celular: 55-23083095
[OT] Comunicacion entre Debian GNU/Linux y FreeBSD; su opinión.
Hola a todos. Estoy incursionando un poco en el mundo FreeBSD. Para ello, creé en VirtualBox una pequeña máquina virtual con FreeBSD. A dicha máquina le di acceso a internet configurando mi tarjeta ethernet como adaptador puente; en vista de eso, la máquina FreeBSD toma su dirección IP via DHCP al igual que lo hace la máquina anfitrión (en Wheeze). Normalmente en Debian lo que hago es redefinir la interfaz ethernet para que tenga dos direcciones; una dhcp y la otra a mano. Así me aseguro que las máquinas se vean entre sí. (p.e. eth0:0 toma su dirección vía dhcp y a eth0:1 le asigno su dirección IP en forma manual) Esta redefinición de la interfaz de red es relativamente sencilla en Debian, pero, de momento, no se cómo hacerla en FreeBSD (soy totalmente neófito en ese universo). Yo se que esta es una lista de Debian, así que no estoy preguntando cómo hacerlo en FreeBSD [*], eso ya lo investigaré. Mi inquietud en concreto es la siguiente. Al comenzar mi investigación me encontré con NIS [#]. De lo poco que he leído parece que podría usarse en este tipo de necesidades de conectividad; por supuesto en mi caso específico parece que ese zapato es muy grande, pero me gustaría saber la opinión de ustedes. Muchas Gracias y Saludos. Juan Lavieri. [*] Por supuesto que si alguien me ayuda no me voy a quejar. [#] Hasta hace media hora no tenía idea de lo que era NIS (no es que ahora la tenga); sino que estoy leyendo sobre eso y me parece muy interesante. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4deb16a8.7000...@gmail.com
Re: Full Swap
On Fri, 03 Jun 2011, Vinícius Batistela wrote: De uma pesquisada no google sobre oom killer. Esse cara finaliza processos quando não ha mais memoria. Soh não tenho certeza se vem por padrao habilitado no kernel padrão das distros. Que eu saiba, ele não é opcional, exceto _talvez_ para embarcados. De qualquer forma, no Debian, RHEL, SuSE, Fedora e Ubuntu ele é ativo por padrão. No Gentoo e no Slackware eu não sei. Qual seria a melhor forma de tratar isso? Sei lá. Gosto da perspectiva de que o processo seja morto. 1. Cuidado que dependendo da versão, o ssh se defende do oom_killer, mas falha em resetar a preferencia de não me mate para o padrão com as childs, então tudo que você rodar em uma sessão ssh pode estar com uma preferência muito alta de não me mate, e o OOM killer vai causar estrago nessa situação. 2. Tem um ajuste por processo para setar a prioridade de quem morre primeiro. Fica em /proc/pid/oom_*. O google acha a documentação. -- One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond where the shadows lie. -- The Silicon Valley Tarot Henrique Holschuh -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110604125209.gb12...@khazad-dum.debian.net
Re: Conexão lenta em apenas um bloco de rede
Voce não pode usar o parâmetro gateway nas duas interfaces,pois não pode ter duas rotas default na tabela main. Tratando-se de IPs validos com gateway distintos nao seria o caso de utilizar tabelas para cada link e politicas de roteamento (rules) para elas com cada rede válida? Pode adicionar duas rotas default distintas na main sim. É só atribuir métricas diferentes. Mas nem esse, nem routing policy (ou source routing) é o problema por aqui. Ao menos não parece. Eu acho que isso pode ser um dos seus problemas. Ou entao use apenas um gateway. Não acho que seja isso. []´s Helio Loureiro http://helio.loureiro.eng.br http://hloureiro.multiply.com http://twitter.com/helioloureiro
Re: Samba or NFS--tangent
On 06/04/11 at 01:48am, Doug wrote: On 06/04/2011 01:30 AM, William Hopkins wrote: On 06/04/11 at 12:58am, Doug wrote: On 06/03/2011 11:28 PM, William Hopkins wrote: On 06/03/11 at 10:02pm, Ron Johnson wrote: On 06/03/2011 11:43 AM, John A. Sullivan III wrote: [snip] NFS is by far simpler to use in pure Linux environment, Samba is for Windows networks. NFS has no passwords, just install it with apt-get, and declare /etc/exports in the server, and mount the shares in the clients /etc/fstab. That's all it takes. Fine for home environments, but shouldn't an office environment use LDAP for coordinated UID/GID sharing? /snip/ Not to steal the thread, but those who read this probably are the best to advise me. I know nothing about networking, but I would like to set up a peer-to-peer network ... Peer to peer typically refers to filesharing programs. Can you explain what it is you want? I assume you've already got a network up, is it file sharing you mean? If that's so, you probably don't even need samba. Just smbfs/smbclient on the linux clients to read the stuff on the Windows 7 box. No, I don't have a network up. As I said, I really don't know anything about networks. here's the debian networking howto, for your linux machines: http://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration the important files are /etc/network/interfaces and /etc/resolv.conf you can report back with questions or google a howto or hit up IRC for realtime support... What I want is not only file sharing, but the ability to use the Win 7 machine as a print server. IIRC it's easier to use linux as the server component for printing, but not impossible to go the other way. Unfortunately I don't have any windows machines, so I fear I'll be little help. Perhaps someone else can point you in the right direction. -- Liam signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: google to pull support for firefox 3,5
Wow... I'm still with 3.0.6. my pc is still in 2.5 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/BANLkTimnO3HHNb3KJoF3zFRu6o9C6=u...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Samba or NFS--tangent
On 06/04/2011 01:55 AM, Ron Johnson wrote: On 06/04/2011 12:48 AM, Doug wrote: [snip] No, I don't have a network up. As I said, I really don't know anything about networks. What I want is not only file sharing, but the ability to use the Win 7 machine as a print server. (Linux is not fit to be a print server since it takes forever to print .pdf's. Maybe someday. . . .) Also, the Win 7 machine is closer to the printers, which are hard-wired. All of the machines are connected by ethernet But you say at the beginning of the paragraph that you don't have a network up. Misprint? or wireless. but the printers don't have either. No, I can plug both the Windows and one Linux machine into the Laserjet, one on parallel, and one on usb. But the only way I can communicate between any of the machines to share files is to email myself thru the isp. And the only way I can print to the color printer is to move the usb cable to whichever of two of the machines--the Win 7 or the other Linux--it will reach. And it is far too late to move everything around, and anyway the printers only have two input ports, and there are three computers. I hope I have made sense? --doug -- Blessed are the peacekeepers...for they shall be shot at from both sides. --A. M. Greeley -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4de9cc68.2030...@optonline.net
Re: Samba or NFS--tangent
On 06/04/2011 02:00 AM, William Hopkins wrote: On 06/04/11 at 01:48am, Doug wrote: On 06/04/2011 01:30 AM, William Hopkins wrote: On 06/04/11 at 12:58am, Doug wrote: On 06/03/2011 11:28 PM, William Hopkins wrote: On 06/03/11 at 10:02pm, Ron Johnson wrote: On 06/03/2011 11:43 AM, John A. Sullivan III wrote: [snip] NFS is by far simpler to use in pure Linux environment, Samba is for Windows networks. NFS has no passwords, just install it with apt-get, and declare /etc/exports in the server, and mount the shares in the clients /etc/fstab. That's all it takes. Fine for home environments, but shouldn't an office environment use LDAP for coordinated UID/GID sharing? /snip/ Not to steal the thread, but those who read this probably are the best to advise me. I know nothing about networking, but I would like to set up a peer-to-peer network ... Peer to peer typically refers to filesharing programs. Can you explain what it is you want? I assume you've already got a network up, is it file sharing you mean? If that's so, you probably don't even need samba. Just smbfs/smbclient on the linux clients to read the stuff on the Windows 7 box. No, I don't have a network up. As I said, I really don't know anything about networks. here's the debian networking howto, for your linux machines: http://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration the important files are /etc/network/interfaces and /etc/resolv.conf you can report back with questions or google a howto or hit up IRC for realtime support... I opened the suggested url, and read the following intro: *Reader Prerequisites*: To get the most from this article, understand the following concepts before reading: basic unix command line tools, text editors, DNS, TCP/IP, DHCP, netmask, gateway I'm not afraid of command line tools and I can use nano or pico, or mc (yes, I've been around since WordStar days)--vi is a problem--but some of the network terms are not really clear to me. The only one I'm sure of is netmask, but I'm not sure if that is fixed to a machine or that is the dynamic part of DHCP. Nor do I know where the name in DNS comes from. As you see, I wasn't kidding about knowing about networking. However, I will google all these terms and see if that will clear things up. Then try the url again. (Meantime, I have to go to bed--it's 2:30 AM!) Thanx--doug What I want is not only file sharing, but the ability to use the Win 7 machine as a print server. IIRC it's easier to use linux as the server component for printing, but not impossible to go the other way. Unfortunately I don't have any windows machines, so I fear I'll be little help. Perhaps someone else can point you in the right direction. -- Blessed are the peacekeepers...for they shall be shot at from both sides. --A. M. Greeley
Re: Samba or NFS--tangent
On 06/04/2011 01:10 AM, Doug wrote: On 06/04/2011 01:55 AM, Ron Johnson wrote: On 06/04/2011 12:48 AM, Doug wrote: [snip] No, I don't have a network up. As I said, I really don't know anything about networks. What I want is not only file sharing, but the ability to use the Win 7 machine as a print server. (Linux is not fit to be a print server since it takes forever to print .pdf's. Maybe someday. . . .) Also, the Win 7 machine is closer to the printers, which are hard-wired. All of the machines are connected by ethernet But you say at the beginning of the paragraph that you don't have a network up. Misprint? or wireless. but the printers don't have either. No, I can plug both the Windows and one Linux machine into the Laserjet, one on parallel, and one on usb. But the only way I can communicate between any of the machines to share files is to email myself thru the isp. And the only way I can print to the color printer is to move the usb cable to whichever of two of the machines--the Win 7 or the other Linux--it will reach. And it is far too late to move everything around, and anyway the printers only have two input ports, and there are three computers. I hope I have made sense? How do they access the Intarweb at the same time? Or do they? -- Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt. Samuel Adams, essay in The Public Advertiser, 1749 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4de9d5ab.8020...@cox.net
Re: Samba or NFS--tangent
On 06/04/2011 01:31 AM, Doug wrote: [snip] I opened the suggested url, and read the following intro: *Reader Prerequisites*: To get the most from this article, understand the following concepts before reading: basic unix command line tools, text editors, DNS, TCP/IP, DHCP, netmask, gateway I'm not afraid of command line tools and I can use nano or pico, or mc (yes, I've been around What do you current use to configure networking in Linux? (You must get to the Internet somehow...) -- Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt. Samuel Adams, essay in The Public Advertiser, 1749 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4de9d653.90...@cox.net
Re: google to pull support for firefox 3,5
On Jun 4, 2011 2:08 AM, jeremy jozwik jerjoz.for...@gmail.com wrote: Wow... I'm still with 3.0.6. my pc is still in 2.5 Y'all realize this isn't really anything to brag about? I just hope both of you are running noscript or just turn scripting off (preferably the later with browsers that old). If you were on Windows, I'd be yelling about you probably having botnet software on your computer - luckily, you're on Linux so its unlikely anyone will have bot software for you.
Security-Warning Mac
Dear guys, The German Ministerium for Security Internet gives the following warning: http://www.buerger-cert.de/techwarnung.aspx?msg_nr=Bcert-2011-0041 this warning is as very high declared, that's why inform on this list. I know that it's allmost OT. Nice day klaus -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1307172769.7253.14.ca...@linuxwolf-mobil.fritz.box
Re: Security-Warning Mac
On Jun 4, 2011 3:33 AM, Klaus Wolf kl...@linuxwolf.de wrote: Dear guys, The German Ministerium for Security Internet gives the following warning: http://www.buerger-cert.de/techwarnung.aspx?msg_nr=Bcert-2011-0041 this warning is as very high declared, that's why inform on this list. I know that it's allmost OT. Sense this is an English list, I figured I'd let Google translate it for y'all. But its just a mac defender warning (I should hope everyone here is aware of this and Apple dropping the ball on this). http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=autotl=enjs=nprev=_thl=enie=UTF-8layout=2eotf=1u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.buerger-cert.de%2Ftechwarnung.aspx%3Fmsg_nr%3DBcert-2011-0041
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Re: Samba or NFS--tangent
On Sb, 04 iun 11, 02:31:28, Doug wrote: I opened the suggested url, and read the following intro: *Reader Prerequisites*: To get the most from this article, understand the following concepts before reading: basic unix command line tools, text editors, DNS, TCP/IP, DHCP, netmask, gateway I'm not afraid of command line tools and I can use nano or pico, or mc (yes, I've been around since WordStar days)--vi is a problem--but some of the network terms are not really clear to me. The only one I'm sure of is netmask, but I'm not sure if that is fixed to a machine or that is the dynamic part of DHCP. Nor do I know where the name in DNS comes from. As you see, I wasn't kidding about knowing about networking. Hello Doug, I would suggest (in this order): 1. read on Wikipedia about all the terms above you don't understand - ask questions here for anything you don't understand (be specific and open a new thread for each question) 2. open a new thread with a good subject and describe exactly - what computers you have (with OS and computer names if possible) - what other hardware you have (printers and such) - what network devices you have (including exact model) - how are they all connected to each other - what you want to achieve Yes, it's not easy, but my impression is you don't want to be spoon-fed, but instead really understand what you would be doing :) Regards, Andrei P.S. Before you start, this is an excelent read http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Spin Off Question (was: What kernel for AMD Sempron system?)
On Sb, 04 iun 11, 05:46:56, teddi...@tmo.blackberry.net wrote: Ron Johnson Said: The M2V has an AM2 socket, and all such chips are 64-bit capable, so both 2.6.39-1-686-pae and 2.6.39-1-amd64 *should* work. (I think you'd get a different error if the kernel was incompatible with the CPU.) [re-wrapped to 72 characters] The first thing I noticed about these two Kernels was the one is an amd64, the second is a i686-PAE which means it's a 32 bit with larger than 4GB Memory Support. Yes My spin off question is this, can a user install a 32bit system (i686) and then choose to move to a 64bit system and perform a rolling update as such? It can be, and has been done before, but... I know that fundamentally, a 64 bit system consist of a 64bit Kernel and the core libraries (libc, gcc, etc.) Are 64bit, I am to understand that 32bit libs are present for backwards compatibility, but I'm not sure if those libraries are different from the ones in a 32bit only system. The Debian amd64 port is as pure as possible. 32bit libraries are only installed in very few cases and mostly for non-free software (skype is for me the big culprit here). However, there is work in progress on true multiarch[1] support, where it will be possible to mix packages as needed. It *might* be ready until wheezy is released. [1] AFAIU other distros have bi-arch support, where some combinations of ports are possible. Debian wants to go further :) So my question boils down to if you can rolling update from 32bit to a 64bit system? If so what all would be involved? And does it boil down to being possible, but so intense as to negate the purpose, e.g. Just plain easier/better to wipe and start fresh. Yes, at the moment it's so complicated to do a cross-grading that it's not worth it (I just wiped and reinstalled yesterday to move back from amd64 to i386). Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
[Way OT] Re: Security-Warning Mac
[replies only to -offtopic please, Reply-To: set accordingly] On Sb, 04 iun 11, 09:32:49, Klaus Wolf wrote: Dear guys, The German Ministerium for Security Internet gives the following warning: http://www.buerger-cert.de/techwarnung.aspx?msg_nr=Bcert-2011-0041 this warning is as very high declared, that's why inform on this list. I know that it's allmost OT. allmost OT? The only relation I can see would be via Debian's kFreeBSD port, but even that is a bit far fetched :) Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: iceweasel swiftfox not rendering pages
On 03/06/11 12:40, Camaleón wrote: On Fri, 03 Jun 2011 10:32:01 +0100, AG wrote: Has anyone else experienced problems with Iceweasel/ Swiftfox not rendering web pages properly? Any page I go to will be rendered with blue hypertext text only, no images, no lay out, etc., whilst other browsers (Iceape, Opera, Chromium) do the job just fine. Under what Debian version? It could be: a/ If you're running testing/sid, a bad update → wait see :-) b/ Corrupted browser's user profile → try with a new empty one Anyway, and just in case, I would perform a full cache cleaning. Greetings, Hey there Camaleón Thanks - as always - for your helpful suggestion(s). You were quite right, something in my profile was borked, so after much faffing around I was able to rebuild a new profile while retaining book-marks, preferences add-ons. How it got borked remains a mystery, but pragmatically it's fixed, and that is the important part. Thanks again. AG -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4dea01cf.4060...@gmail.com
Re: New Guy asks: I want to run Squeeze, except for a few particular things...
2011/6/2 Paul Johnson pauljoh...@gmail.com: I was using RedHat/Fedora for along time, then Ubuntu, now Debian. I'm not new in Linux, just Debian. And I'm still having trouble understanding some of the terminology. I want to run the stable distribution--Squeeze--except I need newer versions of some key programs I use in my work, like LyX and R. And since the kernel included with Squeeze crashes when I unplug the USB headset, I need to run a newer kernel that has a patch for that problem. (I'm afraid of testing because it does not appear it ever pauses for a snapshot. If Debian testing had freeze points like Fedora 14 or Ubuntu 11.04 or such, I would probably run testing. But testing never pauses for a mostly working snapshot. Right?) Debian Testing is working properly most of the time, though I can't guarantee that as I'm running Debian sid / experimental, which is also working most of the time (at least for me, though in sid / exp from time to time it is not working properly). I would say go with Wheezy (especially that you are not new to GNU/Linux) darkestkhan -- Feel free to CC me. jid: darkestk...@gmail.com May The Source be with You. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/banlktingkvcp1tfr7eujoroh0+wbp2v...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Samba or NFS--tangent
On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 12:58 AM, Doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net wrote: On 06/03/2011 11:28 PM, William Hopkins wrote: On 06/03/11 at 10:02pm, Ron Johnson wrote: On 06/03/2011 11:43 AM, John A. Sullivan III wrote: [snip] NFS is by far simpler to use in pure Linux environment, Samba is for Windows networks. NFS has no passwords, just install it with apt-get, and declare /etc/exports in the server, and mount the shares in the clients /etc/fstab. That's all it takes. Fine for home environments, but shouldn't an office environment use LDAP for coordinated UID/GID sharing? /snip/ Not to steal the thread, but those who read this probably are the best to advise me. I know nothing about networking, but I would like to set up a peer-to-peer network among a Windows 7 and two Linux machines, one of which can also be booted to XP. (If one absolutely *must* be a master it must be the Windows 7 machine.) I assume I would use samba. I don't need any security--all the machines are mine, here in the house with me, and I live alone. What I need is words of one syllable on how to do it. Is there a Networks For Dummies for me somewhere? Thanx--doug Most modern computers can, very reasonably, use dhcp to automatically be configured inside a local network and be able to reach the rest of the computers or the Intenet(tm). I'll assume you've already got your local wireless gateway or cable router or dsl modem or whatever doing that. First step, make sure you can see the Internet safely from inside your local network. That makes sure you're up and connected. I'm also assuming the IP addresses you're getting are non-routable addresses behind a NAT gateway: you can look them up with your network configuration tools. For someone like you unfamiliar with the internals on Linux, you might actually benefit from using the NetworkManager tools on your Linux boxes. Verify that the addresses are non-routable, for safety: they'll typically look something like 192.168.1.101. That 192.168 to start means don't tell people on the Internet about this, hide behind a NAT gateway.) Second step. Tell your gateway to set up DHCP reservations: this stabilizes what IP address each machine gets, so you can hit the same address again and make things work. You can alternatively set up your network configuration smanually, but DHCP can be very handy. Third step. Pick one machine as a file server, say, one Linux box. That will tell you what file sharing protocols are available: Samba to share to Windows, and NFS to share with Linux and some Windows boxes, work reasonably well. Pick *ONE* file server, don't try to do this with all 3 machines or you'll enter a configuration rats nest. Mount your file shares from the server box. Use the now stable IP addresses: you can use host names if you set up a DNS server for yourself or a put host names in each machines /etc/hosts file, but for only 3 boxes, you don't need it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/banlktim3h99dhas05fqu4g1shceco8f...@mail.gmail.com
Re: google to pull support for firefox 3,5
On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 2:27 PM, William Hopkins we.hopk...@gmail.com wrote: On 06/02/11 at 08:15pm, tadziu wrote: i'm just curious, is there any chance to bring iceweasel 4.0 to stable before google ends support for 3,5? i got 4.0 on my second computer with squeeze, but i had to mess a bit to get it working, and it's not performing as well as i've expected. http://techcrunch.com/2011/06/01/google-apps-to-pull-support-for-firefox-3-5-internet-explorer-7-and-safari-3/ How awful! Google has brought browsers to the PC hardware game: upgrade or get left behind. I only upgrade browsers for security reasons, as I use noscript and requestpolicy and my browsing experience is essentially similar to my browsing experience in 1999. I am willing to bet gmail et al will continue to work for as long as you can use them without the fancy features (google does try their hand at requiring javascript now and then, such as the recent google images fiasco). OK rambling aside, you can use iceweasel 4.0 from experimental. Also given that it exists there, I'm sure there are plans to bring it forward to unstable and testing (and probably backports). It's freeware, with a metric caboose load of add-ons and streaming API's and security dongles and all sorts of bits. Doing backwards compatibility and multiple platrform spupport for any project, especially a bulky one, is painful and expensive in skilled engineering time and QA. I've *been* the author, or support engineer, for components that had major new releases and people weren't willing to upgrade their old components for simple supportability and maintainability. Backporting fixes may rely on completely re-engineering components, which means significantly forking old components. This happens with kernels, databases, and GUI's all the time. It's hardly unique to Firefox. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/banlktim-bomohxgpx1mpydc_whemjc7...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Gnome/KDE program launches hang when Internet disconnected - Lenny
Thanks to those who commented. I tried/etc/init.d/networking stop . When this is done, programs launch without delay. Of course, this makes it impossible for any program to access the Internet so it's not a solution! However, taking gedit as an example, Normal operation - Internet accessible - gedit launches in 2 seconds. External problem - Internet inaccessible - gedit takes 60 seconds to launch. Internal shutdown of networking - gedit launches in 2 seconds. Maybe this means something, but I am not sure what. I also found NetworkManager and NetworkManagerDispatcher daemons running. I tried /etc/init.d/network-manager stop which eliminated one - I killed the other. This had no effect on the symptoms - gedit and other still take 60 seconds ot launch. I also found 8 instances of nfsd and one instance of nfsd4 running. Tried to kill -9 all of them. This had no effect. Any other suggestions? Jack Dodds William Hopkins wrote: On 06/03/11 at 10:17pm, Camaleón wrote: El 2011-06-03 a las 12:53 -0400, Thomas Milne escribió: (resending to the list) On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 10:13 AM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, 03 Jun 2011 05:38:23 -0400, Jack Dodds wrote: I am running Lenny. The system is connected to the Internet via a Linksys BEFSR81router and a cable modem. My desktop is Gnome. If the Internet is inaccessible - e.g. if the Ethernet cable is disconnected from the computer, or the cable modem power is disconnected, or if there are problems on the provider network - many GUI programs take a long time (about 60 seconds) to launch. (...) I have not experienced that specific behaviour in any of my lenny systems. (...) Run top to check for any runaway process. This sounds suspiciously like the effects of Gnome's notorious Network Manager. This tells Internet applications whether you are connected or not. That's where I would start looking, at least. Yes, that would be a good test: shutdown the networking service (/etc/init.d/networking stop) and then check if there is still a delay when opening gedit. This would be the same as disconnecting the ethernet, wouldn't it? Network-manager is not called from this script. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Spin Off Question (was: What kernel for AMD Sempron system?)
Andrei POPESCU Said: [re-wrapped to 72 characters] - Sorry about that, I send list mails from my cell phone, very small screen, not much I can do about the text length. Otherwise thank you for the reply. Just curious, are the 32bit Libraries that can be installed upon need in a 64bit install the exact same libraries/packages as in 32bit only installs? If so are the 64bit lib's just named such to prevent conflicts, overwrites, and general confusion? Thanks; TeddyB -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2020568637-1307195195-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-840228970-@b16.c1.bise6.blackberry
Re: New Guy asks: I want to run Squeeze, except for a few particular things...
On Sat, 2011-06-04 at 10:39 +, darkestkhan wrote: I would say go with Wheezy +1 I installed stable (squeeze) and than upgraded to testing (wheezy), I just kept X from stable. What for other distros is called 'stable' IMO isn't that stable as Debian testing. I should have installed testing directly, instead of stable. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1307196478.3032.4.camel@debian
Re: Gnome/KDE program launches hang when Internet disconnected - Lenny
On 06/04/2011 08:34 AM, Jack Dodds wrote: Thanks to those who commented. I tried/etc/init.d/networking stop . When this is done, programs launch without delay. Of course, this makes it impossible for any program to access the Internet so it's not a solution! However, taking gedit as an example, Normal operation - Internet accessible - gedit launches in 2 seconds. External problem - Internet inaccessible - gedit takes 60 seconds to launch. Internal shutdown of networking - gedit launches in 2 seconds. Maybe this means something, but I am not sure what. I also found NetworkManager and NetworkManagerDispatcher daemons running. I tried /etc/init.d/network-manager stop which eliminated one - I killed the other. This had no effect on the symptoms - gedit and other still take 60 seconds ot launch. I also found 8 instances of nfsd and one instance of nfsd4 running. Tried to kill -9 all of them. This had no effect. The correct way: /etc/init.d/nfs-kernel-server stop Any other suggestions? Run gedit from an xterm using strace. -- Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt. Samuel Adams, essay in The Public Advertiser, 1749 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4dea53e9.8070...@cox.net
Re: aptitude/apt-get hangs during update (plus) on IPv6
On Jun 3, 2011, at 10:46 AM, Jeffrey B. Green wrote: On Fri, 03 Jun 2011 09:42:49 +0200 Pascal Hambourg pascal.m...@plouf.fr.eu.org wrote: It could be an MTU/MSS issue. See the recent discussion in the debian-ipv6 list with subject schein.debian.org [2001:4f8:8:36::6]. Many thanks. Changing the MTU to 1480 as suggested worked. Indeed as was mentioned my connection to the IPv6 network is via a tunnel and I'm assuming as a poster commented that someone on the path is not handling the packaging correctly. -jeff The RFCs say that any conforming implementation MUST handle an MTU of 1280, and may not necessarily handle anything larger. So it makes sense (if you're going to go to the trouble of setting the MTU in the first place) to use that number. The difference in overhead between 1280 and 1400 is negligible. Rick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/e8a5248c-e882-455b-935b-a863eb2d7...@pobox.com
Re: Samba or NFS
On Fri, 2011-06-03 at 23:08 -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 11:08 AM, Dan ganc...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I have two linux servers. One file server (debian) that is running samba and one application server (redhat). I would like to mount the shares of the file server in the application server. The problem is that the usernames are very different. Samba is already running and easier to set-up. NFS seems to be more difficult to set-up and also there are more security issues. Which are the advantages of NFS over Samba (cifs) other than the symbolic links. I read that even some people prefer samba over NFS to connect Unix to Unix. Thanks, Dan CIFS clients mishandle mixed case filenames, such as 'file.txt, FILE.txt, and FILE.TXT. They also have a massively different idea of how file ownership and privileges work than the POSIX standards built into most UNIX and Linux native filesystems. And while I very much applaud the work of the Samba team for providing this cross-compatibility tool, it performs like a *dog* compared to NFS, AFS, ZFS, or the other more powerful network based fileysstems. NFS needs some attention to security: so does CIFS. But most of the complexities CIFS does more trivilally, such as mixed group ownership, can be resolved with tools built into NFS such as netgroups suport. And holy moley, but the speed of simple network operations like Subversion checkouts is *grotesquely* faster under NFS. Interesting and helpful. I was always under the impression that NFS was oodles faster than CIFS after one adjusted rsize and wsize to something much larger than the defaults. However, one of our engineers recently tweaked SAMBA to use similarly large block sizes and it seems to have narrowed the gap. I did not take the time to actually measure so this is only anecdotal. Has anyone had any similar or contrary experiences? - John -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1307208780.20855.8.ca...@denise.theartistscloset.com
Re: Samba or NFS
On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 1:33 PM, John A. Sullivan III jsulli...@opensourcedevel.com wrote: On Fri, 2011-06-03 at 23:08 -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 11:08 AM, Dan ganc...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I have two linux servers. One file server (debian) that is running samba and one application server (redhat). I would like to mount the shares of the file server in the application server. The problem is that the usernames are very different. Samba is already running and easier to set-up. NFS seems to be more difficult to set-up and also there are more security issues. Which are the advantages of NFS over Samba (cifs) other than the symbolic links. I read that even some people prefer samba over NFS to connect Unix to Unix. Thanks, Dan CIFS clients mishandle mixed case filenames, such as 'file.txt, FILE.txt, and FILE.TXT. They also have a massively different idea of how file ownership and privileges work than the POSIX standards built into most UNIX and Linux native filesystems. And while I very much applaud the work of the Samba team for providing this cross-compatibility tool, it performs like a *dog* compared to NFS, AFS, ZFS, or the other more powerful network based fileysstems. NFS needs some attention to security: so does CIFS. But most of the complexities CIFS does more trivilally, such as mixed group ownership, can be resolved with tools built into NFS such as netgroups suport. And holy moley, but the speed of simple network operations like Subversion checkouts is *grotesquely* faster under NFS. Interesting and helpful. I was always under the impression that NFS was oodles faster than CIFS after one adjusted rsize and wsize to something much larger than the defaults. However, one of our engineers recently tweaked SAMBA to use similarly large block sizes and it seems to have narrowed the gap. I did not take the time to actually measure so this is only anecdotal. Has anyone had any similar or contrary experiences? - John These are general Linux issues, not Debian specific. That said, It's very usage sensitive. Subversion checkouts on CIFS are ghods-awful slow compared to doing it on NFS. The latest release of subversion allegedly helps with the slow, but not *THAT* slow, performance on local NTFS checkouts, and may help with this issue. File ownership is a constant confusion between the two basic systems. *DO NOT* try to manage the same file server and accessing its material with the two different protocols. I've been this route, the claims of just set this are generally complete handwaving, and cleaning up when they break down can be a nightmare. I've been down this route with Linux and UNIX and Windows file servers and NetApps, and I don't recommend doing multiple access for *any* of them. And don't get me *started* on the iSCSI pain, sorrow, and blood in the streets.. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/BANLkTi=mSkYzhKHv=ggpbj-zoqorejt...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Avoid POP3
On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 8:26 AM, Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote: On 06/03/2011 07:02 AM, Camaleón wrote: [snip] And admittely, in such programs (like Getmail or Fetchmail) it is very useful to have the keep option while configuring the application so you don't delete e-mails unless you are sure they're well routed locally and messages reach their inboxes. That's right. Nothing worse than seeing dozens of emails disappearing because of a misconfigured MTA. getmail is *not* an MTA. Be very cautious about that sort of claim, it can come back and bite you when you least expect it. The default POP client behavior of auto-snatching mail off the server is an old, old, old problem, and one of the biggest reasons to throw POP access out altogether and switch to IMAP. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/banlktinxpd+rfvwy6zo2wyyqukoux3b...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Avoid POP3
On 06/04/2011 02:52 PM, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 8:26 AM, Ron Johnsonron.l.john...@cox.net wrote: On 06/03/2011 07:02 AM, Camaleón wrote: [snip] And admittely, in such programs (like Getmail or Fetchmail) it is very useful to have the keep option while configuring the application so you don't delete e-mails unless you are sure they're well routed locally and messages reach their inboxes. That's right. Nothing worse than seeing dozens of emails disappearing because of a misconfigured MTA. getmail is *not* an MTA. Be very cautious about that sort of claim, it can come back and bite you when you least expect it. Yeah, well, no. I stand by what I said. When fetchmail feeds a mis-configured MTA (like exim or postfix), emails just disappear. The default POP client behavior of auto-snatching mail off the server is an old, old, old problem, and one of the biggest reasons to throw POP access out altogether and switch to IMAP. Which is what I do: fetchmail grabs mail from my ISP's POP server, passes them to postfix which calls spam assassin then passes to maildrop which puts them in a Maildir for courier-imap -- Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt. Samuel Adams, essay in The Public Advertiser, 1749 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4dea974d.9020...@cox.net
Re: Samba or NFS
On Sat, 2011-06-04 at 15:27 -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 1:33 PM, John A. Sullivan III snip File ownership is a constant confusion between the two basic systems. *DO NOT* try to manage the same file server and accessing its material with the two different protocols. I've been this route, the claims of just set this are generally complete handwaving, and cleaning up when they break down can be a nightmare. I've been down this route with Linux and UNIX and Windows file servers and NetApps, and I don't recommend doing multiple access for *any* of them. And don't get me *started* on the iSCSI pain, sorrow, and blood in the streets.. Boy have we really digressed on this thread! If anyone objects, please say so and I'll spawn another one. I'm glad you mentioned trying to run both protocols against the same file system. IF we go the NAS (presenting a remote file system as a remote file system - to define terms) rather than the SAN (presenting a remote file system as a block device) route, being able to access the same data on the NAS via both protocols would solve a big headache for us (Windows and Linux users both needing read/write access to the same data). Has anyone been able to successfully do this? Otherwise, we will probably use SAMBA rather than have to license NFS services on Windows (not sure if that's still a separate license). I'm also curious to see how others have dealt with iSCSI. That set back our entire company launch by five months as we fought ISCSI / Linux file system issues until we realized the problem was the 4KB block size limitation in Linux. Because each iSCSI block needs to be acknowledged, with only 4KB blocks, latency becomes the bottleneck rather than bandwidth, i.e., 4KB of data comes nowhere close to saturating the network. Thus, the maximum iSCSI throughput becomes 4KB/(round trip latency), e.g., 100 microsecond round trip latency limits throughput to 4KB/.0001 = 40MBps. To make matters worse for us, we are using Nexenta as a SAN. It's a brilliant idea of using ZFS for a back end but it runs on OpenSolaris and the network stack is much slower than Linux. We are eagerly waiting for BTRFS to mature as we suspect we will see a 30% to 80% increase in throughput by moving to Linux based SANs. In any event, has anyone found a way around this iSCSI 4KB problem for Linux file I/O? And to restate the earlier question, has anyone truly resolved the issues of running SAMBA and NFS against the same back end Linux file system? Thanks. Very helpful thread - John -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1307220947.20855.29.ca...@denise.theartistscloset.com
New Squeeze install fails to boot (not even to grub)
(posted this to a Linux forum, cross-posting here as recommended by the install guide troubleshooting instructions) I recently purchased a new Lenovo Thinkpad T420i and am having problems installing the latest version of Squeeze from CD. After receiving the laptop, I started it up, configured Windows 7, and confirmed everything is working correctly. Next I went through the Debian installer, which completed successfully. I'll be dual-booting Windows 7 and Debian, so at the partitioning stage I resized my NTFS partition, added a shared VFAT partition, then used the Guided install to create my root and swap partitions. My partition layout is: /dev/sda1 NTFS, primary (small, not sure what Windows uses this for) /dev/sda2 NTFS, primary (the main Windows one I resized) /dev/sda3 NTFS, primary (the Lenovo recovery partition at the end of the drive) /dev/sda4 extended /dev/sda5 FAT32, logical (shared between Windows and Linux) /dev/sda6 Linux, logical, bootable (Linux root) /dev/sda7 Linux swap, logical During the boot loader phase, I chose the default (install grub to MBR). After the installation completed successfully and I rebooted, I get: Intel Boot Agent PXE-E61: media test failure which I see means the drive could not be booted. It then drops me back to a Boot Menu where I can select which device to boot, and choosing my hard drive goes to a black screen for a few seconds, then kicks me back to the Boot Menu. I assumed something was wrong with grub, so I booted the CD into rescue mode and chose to reinstall grub onto the Master Boot Record. But nothing changed. Just to experiment, I went into fdisk, deleted all my new partitions (leaving just the Windows ones), and tried rebooting, but the same error happened. I then went through the Debian installer again, being careful to set everything up correctly, but still, the device won't boot. I'm not even getting to the grub boot screen, so something is wrong even before the point. Reinstalling grub to the Master Boot Record (grub-install /dev/sda) isn't changing anything. How can I troubleshoot this? Thanks in advance.
Re: Samba or NFS--tangent
On 06/04/2011 02:53 AM, Ron Johnson wrote: On 06/04/2011 01:31 AM, Doug wrote: [snip] I opened the suggested url, and read the following intro: *Reader Prerequisites*: To get the most from this article, understand the following concepts before reading: basic unix command line tools, text editors, DNS, TCP/IP, DHCP, netmask, gateway I'm not afraid of command line tools and I can use nano or pico, or mc (yes, I've been around What do you current use to configure networking in Linux? (You must get to the Internet somehow...) I have a router with ethernet connections from each machine. (Or wireless, if the laptop is not wired in.) The router connects to a cable modem, and off we go. It is even possible to connect two machines to the internet at once--one playing streaming audio from a radio station in Texas, and one downloading or uploading email, or Googling. Nobody ever told me it was impossible, so I just do it. Or, since all the machines are multi-tasking, it's possible to Google while listening to music on the same machine. (I normally use the main Linux machine for email and net searching, and the Win 7 machine for music, since its sound card is output to a hi-fi system. If I want to do any serious writing, I use the Windows machine with WordPerfect on it. No M/S or M/S clone comes close.) --doug -- Blessed are the peacekeepers...for they shall be shot at from both sides. --A. M. Greeley -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4deabe08.2010...@optonline.net
Re: Gnome/KDE program launches hang when Internet disconnected - Lenny
On 2011-06-04, Jack Dodds brmda...@hushmail.com wrote: This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --enig8C3A295D8BAF91ED98A88B02 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks to those who commented. I tried/etc/init.d/networking stop . When this is done, programs launch without delay. Of course, this makes it impossible for any program to access the Internet so it's not a solution! However, taking gedit as an example, Normal operation - Internet accessible - gedit launches in 2 seconds. External problem - Internet inaccessible - gedit takes 60 seconds to laun= ch. Internal shutdown of networking - gedit launches in 2 seconds. Maybe this means something, but I am not sure what. (...) X applications need to resolve your system's hostname, and are (unnecessarily) going to the internet to do so. What are the contents of the files /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname? -- Liam O'Toole Cork, Ireland -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/slrniulg24.27s.liam.p.otoole@dipsy.tubbynet
Re: New Squeeze install fails to boot (not even to grub)
Problem solved (I think). After digging some more, I realized that after the install the only partition marked bootable was /dev/sda6 (Linux root). I used fdisk to make /dev/sda2 also bootable (the main Windows partition) and grub (and everything else) came up fine. I believe the original set up was using Debian installer defaults. Is this something I should report against the installer somehow? On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 3:33 PM, Johnathan Ritzi leivo...@gmail.com wrote: (posted this to a Linux forum, cross-posting here as recommended by the install guide troubleshooting instructions) I recently purchased a new Lenovo Thinkpad T420i and am having problems installing the latest version of Squeeze from CD. After receiving the laptop, I started it up, configured Windows 7, and confirmed everything is working correctly. Next I went through the Debian installer, which completed successfully. I'll be dual-booting Windows 7 and Debian, so at the partitioning stage I resized my NTFS partition, added a shared VFAT partition, then used the Guided install to create my root and swap partitions. My partition layout is: /dev/sda1 NTFS, primary (small, not sure what Windows uses this for) /dev/sda2 NTFS, primary (the main Windows one I resized) /dev/sda3 NTFS, primary (the Lenovo recovery partition at the end of the drive) /dev/sda4 extended /dev/sda5 FAT32, logical (shared between Windows and Linux) /dev/sda6 Linux, logical, bootable (Linux root) /dev/sda7 Linux swap, logical During the boot loader phase, I chose the default (install grub to MBR). After the installation completed successfully and I rebooted, I get: Intel Boot Agent PXE-E61: media test failure which I see means the drive could not be booted. It then drops me back to a Boot Menu where I can select which device to boot, and choosing my hard drive goes to a black screen for a few seconds, then kicks me back to the Boot Menu. I assumed something was wrong with grub, so I booted the CD into rescue mode and chose to reinstall grub onto the Master Boot Record. But nothing changed. Just to experiment, I went into fdisk, deleted all my new partitions (leaving just the Windows ones), and tried rebooting, but the same error happened. I then went through the Debian installer again, being careful to set everything up correctly, but still, the device won't boot. I'm not even getting to the grub boot screen, so something is wrong even before the point. Reinstalling grub to the Master Boot Record (grub-install /dev/sda) isn't changing anything. How can I troubleshoot this? Thanks in advance.
Re: New Squeeze install fails to boot (not even to grub)
On Sat, 2011-06-04 at 15:33 -0700, Johnathan Ritzi wrote: [snip] Just to experiment, I went into fdisk, deleted all my new partitions (leaving just the Windows ones) [snip] I'm not even getting to the grub boot screen, so something is wrong even before the point. Reinstalling grub to the Master Boot Record (grub-install /dev/sda) isn't changing anything. How can I troubleshoot this? At least now it isn't surprising that you don't see a boot menu. With deleting all Linux partitions, you also deleted /boot/grub/grub.cfg, the file that includes the boot menu. The menu isn't written to the MBR, just the boot loader is. -- Ralf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1307230611.2595.7.camel@debian
Boot fails during fschk of /dev/vg1/var
I am running Lenny with LVM. Last night the system locked completely.
No mouse movement. No keystroke entry. Nothing. I don't like to
power down without a proper shutdown, but I did not seem to have a lot
of choice. This morning, when I tried to boot up I got an fschk on
several partitions. The first few were fine, until I got to
/dev/vg1/var. I got a dma expiry error. I tried several times to
power down and reboot, with the same result.
Next, I booted into single user and tried to fsck /dev/vg1/var. When
I do that, I get the following messages:
/dev/vg1/var has gone 186 days without being checked, check forced.
Pass 1: Checking inodes, blocks, and sizes
[ 191.648009] hda: ide_dma_sff_timer_expiry: DMA status (0x61)
[ 201.648005] hda DMA timeout error
[ 201.648057] hda: dma ti9meout error: status=0xd0 { Busy }
[ 201,648173] hda: possibly failed opcode: 0xc8
[ 201.648224] hda: DMA disabled
[ 201.512005] ide0: reset: success
Then it just sits there indefinitely. Total lock up.
I can reboot, go into single user mode, and mount the partition
without any apparent errors. Only a warning that it has been too long
since it was checked and I SHOULD run fsck. How do I fix this?
Presumably, I could edit /etc/fstab to not mount /var automatically
and mount it manually once the system has booted, but that does not
correct the actual problem. Okay, that doesn't work. The root
filesystem is read-only. Can I remount / as rw while the system is
up? Do I need to get a rescue cd and make the changes that way? I
think that I have enough unused space in my pv to create a new
partition for /var and copy everything from the old partition. Would
this be the best option, or is there something else to do? If this is
my best option, then I guess I need a rescue CD that understands LVM
to boot into and work from. Is this correct?
All help appreciated.
Marc Shapiro
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Re: Boot fails during fschk of /dev/vg1/var
On 06/04/11 at 05:44pm, Marc Shapiro wrote:
I am running Lenny with LVM. Last night the system locked completely.
No mouse movement. No keystroke entry. Nothing. I don't like to
power down without a proper shutdown, but I did not seem to have a lot
of choice. This morning, when I tried to boot up I got an fschk on
several partitions. The first few were fine, until I got to
/dev/vg1/var. I got a dma expiry error. I tried several times to
power down and reboot, with the same result.
Next, I booted into single user and tried to fsck /dev/vg1/var. When
I do that, I get the following messages:
/dev/vg1/var has gone 186 days without being checked, check forced.
Pass 1: Checking inodes, blocks, and sizes
[ 191.648009] hda: ide_dma_sff_timer_expiry: DMA status (0x61)
[ 201.648005] hda DMA timeout error
[ 201.648057] hda: dma ti9meout error: status=0xd0 { Busy }
[ 201,648173] hda: possibly failed opcode: 0xc8
[ 201.648224] hda: DMA disabled
[ 201.512005] ide0: reset: success
Then it just sits there indefinitely. Total lock up.
Try booting with ide=nodma, see how far you get.
I can reboot, go into single user mode, and mount the partition
without any apparent errors. Only a warning that it has been too long
since it was checked and I SHOULD run fsck. How do I fix this?
Presumably, I could edit /etc/fstab to not mount /var automatically
and mount it manually once the system has booted, but that does not
correct the actual problem. Okay, that doesn't work. The root
filesystem is read-only. Can I remount / as rw while the system is
up?
Sure, should work. But with / being ro during boot a lot of services will
probably fail to start properly.
Do I need to get a rescue cd and make the changes that way? I
think that I have enough unused space in my pv to create a new
partition for /var and copy everything from the old partition. Would
this be the best option, or is there something else to do?
If you've actually got some trouble with your disk, more logical volumes on the
same disk won't be helpful.
In that instance you'll want a new disk with either no LVM or at least a
separate VG.
If this is my best option, then I guess I need a rescue CD that understands LVM
to boot into and work from. Is this correct?
That's one way to do it. Debian CDs have a rescue mode that supports LVM.
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Re: Samba or NFS--tangent
On 06/04/11 at 07:21pm, Doug wrote: On 06/04/2011 02:53 AM, Ron Johnson wrote: On 06/04/2011 01:31 AM, Doug wrote: [snip] I opened the suggested url, and read the following intro: *Reader Prerequisites*: To get the most from this article, understand the following concepts before reading: basic unix command line tools, text editors, DNS, TCP/IP, DHCP, netmask, gateway I'm not afraid of command line tools and I can use nano or pico, or mc (yes, I've been around What do you current use to configure networking in Linux? (You must get to the Internet somehow...) I have a router with ethernet connections from each machine. (Or wireless, if the laptop is not wired in.) For future reference, this means you *do* have a network set up. Contrary to what you said before.. -- Liam signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Boot fails during fschk of /dev/vg1/var
On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 6:01 PM, William Hopkins we.hopk...@gmail.com wrote:
On 06/04/11 at 05:44pm, Marc Shapiro wrote:
I am running Lenny with LVM. Last night the system locked completely.
No mouse movement. No keystroke entry. Nothing. I don't like to
power down without a proper shutdown, but I did not seem to have a lot
of choice. This morning, when I tried to boot up I got an fschk on
several partitions. The first few were fine, until I got to
/dev/vg1/var. I got a dma expiry error. I tried several times to
power down and reboot, with the same result.
Next, I booted into single user and tried to fsck /dev/vg1/var. When
I do that, I get the following messages:
/dev/vg1/var has gone 186 days without being checked, check forced.
Pass 1: Checking inodes, blocks, and sizes
[ 191.648009] hda: ide_dma_sff_timer_expiry: DMA status (0x61)
[ 201.648005] hda DMA timeout error
[ 201.648057] hda: dma ti9meout error: status=0xd0 { Busy }
[ 201,648173] hda: possibly failed opcode: 0xc8
[ 201.648224] hda: DMA disabled
[ 201.512005] ide0: reset: success
Then it just sits there indefinitely. Total lock up.
Try booting with ide=nodma, see how far you get.
Same error. Same lockup.
Marc Shapiro
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Re: Samba or NFS--tangent
On 06/04/2011 06:21 PM, Doug wrote: On 06/04/2011 02:53 AM, Ron Johnson wrote: On 06/04/2011 01:31 AM, Doug wrote: [snip] I opened the suggested url, and read the following intro: *Reader Prerequisites*: To get the most from this article, understand the following concepts before reading: basic unix command line tools, text editors, DNS, TCP/IP, DHCP, netmask, gateway I'm not afraid of command line tools and I can use nano or pico, or mc (yes, I've been around What do you current use to configure networking in Linux? (You must get to the Internet somehow...) I have a router with ethernet connections from each machine. (Or wireless, if the laptop is not wired in.) The router connects to a cable modem, and off we go. It is even possible to connect two machines to the internet at once--one playing streaming audio from a radio station in Texas, and one downloading or uploading email, or Googling. Nobody ever told me it was impossible, so I just do it. Or, since all the machines are multi-tasking, it's possible to Google while listening to music on the same machine. (I normally use the main Linux machine for email and net searching, and the Win 7 machine for music, since its sound card is output to a hi-fi system. If I want to do any serious writing, I use the Windows machine with WordPerfect on it. No M/S or M/S clone comes close.) So, as William says, you *do* have successfully implemented a LAN in your apartment. What you now need is File And Print Sharing. Since the printer is plugged into the Win7 machine, Samba is your only choice. (I'd suggest that you give static IP addresses to your desktop machines and use the /etc/hosts file -- yes, even Windows has one -- to give your machines permanent symbolic names. Makes things easier that way.) -- Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt. Samuel Adams, essay in The Public Advertiser, 1749 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4deafe63.7070...@cox.net
