Re: How do I suppress dpms mode setting messages on text console?

[Tom H]

On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 8:39 PM, Scott Ferguson
 wrote:
> On 05/03/12 05:08, Tom H wrote:
>> On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 12:16 PM, Stephen Powell  wrote:
>>>
>>> I am using Debian wheezy i386 with an Nvidia video card and the default
>>> nouveau driver. �Everytime I switch back and forth between the X console
>>> (tty7) and a text console (such as tty1), tty1 gets spammed with messages
>>> like this:
>>>
>>> [drm] nouveau :01:00.0: Setting dpms mode 3 on vga encoder (output 0)
>>> [drm] nouveau :01:00.0: Setting dpms mode 0 on vga encoder (output 0)
>>> [drm] nouveau :01:00.0: Output VGA-1 is running on CRTC 0 using output A
>>>
>>> I assume that mode 3 is graphics mode (X server) and mode 0 is text mode
>>> (frame buffer simulated text console).
>>>
>>> Similar messages occur if I stay in a text console long enough for the
>>> power management feature to turn off the display and then I re-activate the
>>> display again (such as by pressing the Shift key by itself). �Apparently,
>>> when power management kicks in, I get dmps mode 1; and when I re-activate
>>> the console it switches back to dpms mode 0. �I do not get these results
>>> on another computer which uses the Nvidia proprietary driver (nvidia),
>>> nor did I get such results using this computer back when I used
>>> the older free nvidia driver (nv), which has since been dropped from the
>>> distribution.
>>>
>>> I consider these messages to be noise messages and I wish to suppress them.
>>> I don't mind if they are written to the kernel log, but I don't ever want to
>>> see them written to the console itself (except maybe during boot).
>>>
>>> I tried searching the internet, but I didn't find anything useful. �Is there
>>> a way to suppress these messages without suppressing true error messages?
>>> Maybe there's a module option that I can set in /etc/modprobe.d/local.conf,
>>> or something along those lines? �Any help will be appreciated.
>>
>> Isn't this a "/proc/sys/kernel/printk" issue?
>>
>> You can set "kernel.printk = 3 4 1 3" in "/etc/sysctl.conf".
>
> Yes - *that* should work (I haven't tested as I don't run the open
> driver - but I've used it to suppress other annoying messages)
>
> Won't apply until reboot though. For immediate effect:-
> echo "3 4 1 3" > /proc/sys/kernel/printk

Or with "sysctl -p".


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Re: Persisting a one-off hostname change

[Christofer C. Bell]

On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 12:08 AM, Jason Heeris  wrote:
> On 28 February 2012 13:40, Tom H  wrote:
>> Everywhere that I've worked the hostnames have had something to
>> indicate its purpose and its location.
>
> I don't think this reasoning can be applied here though. There will be
> dozens of identical devices plugged into the network, and hundreds in
> total (but not all plugged in at the same time). They can't all have
> the same name, and the IP address is useless as an identifier since
> the physical location could change daily until it goes out the door.
>
>> The "mv /etc/rc.local.final /etc/rc.local" would be the last line in
>> the first-boot's "/etc/rc.local" so that your "/dev/random" hostname
>> stuff only runs once. I've just tried it and it was OK.
>
> Oh, right, that makes sense now.

I think all you may need to do is put this in /etc/rc.local (and avoid
any sort of moving files around or having some sort of "first-boot"
snafu):

/bin/echo dt$(/sbin/ifconfig eth0 | head -1 | awk -F: '{print
$4$5$6}') > /etc/hostname
/etc/init.d/hostname.sh start

That will create a hostname of dt + the last 6 characters of the MAC
address of eth0, dump that into /etc/hostname, and then "start" the
hostname.sh "service" which simply sets the hostname.  You can read
what it does in /etc/init.d/hostname.sh.

On my system, this gives a hostname of dt7281d9 which I picked sort of
at random.  Since you're testing things I picked a prefix of dt for
"device test" and then the 6 (presumably unique) characters from the
MAC address.  This gives you an 8 character hostname.  If you want
something with less of the MAC address in there, change the awk
statement and prefix:

echo test$(/sbin/ifconfig eth0 | head -1 | awk -F: '{print $5$6}') >
/etc/hostname
service hostname.sh start

This one will give you, on my system, test81d9.  You can use whatever
scheme you like and you never need change it.  You can just leave that
in place and it will have no effect after the first run (just remove
the lines if you'd like to manually set a hostname).

At first boot, the system will have whatever hostname was set in the
installer up until /etc/rc.local runs, at which point the hostname
will change to your chosen scheme, and will stay that way until those
lines are removed from /etc/rc.local and you set something else in
/etc/hostname, or you change the Ethernet hardware.

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Re: [OT] munin

[Wolfgang Karall]

On Sun, Mar 04, 2012 at 06:44:47PM -0500, Brad Alexander wrote:
> Yes. Non-working:
> 
>  echo -e 'list\nquit' | nc 192.168.4.9 4949
> (UNKNOWN) [192.168.4.9] 4949 (munin) : Connection refused

Hmm, since Bob suggest a bug in recent versions (I don't know, not
running wheezy or sid on any munin-node installations at the moment),
could you try disabling IPv6 and try again?

And if this is really a bug with munin-node not working with IPv6
enabled this needs to be reported to the BTS.

Cheers
Wolfgang


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Re: Screen unresponsive

[KS]

On Mon, Mar 5, 2012, at 12:51 AM, KS wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> The last few days I ahve noticed that when I return to my machine
> (always ON), the screen doesn't respond. Keyboard (caps lock, num lock)
> works. I can also ssh to the machine and have noticed that Xorg takes
> 100% CPU. I couldn't find anything in the Xorg log or syslog files.
> 
> Today however, the screen stopped responding after a beep while I was
> using the machine. Below is what I found on sys log:
> 
> Mar  5 00:32:28 gurh kernel: [17901.730462] NVRM: GPU at :01:00.0
> has fallen off the bus.
> Mar  5 00:32:28 gurh kernel: [17901.730487] NVRM: os_pci_init_handle:
> invalid context!
> Mar  5 00:32:28 gurh kernel: [17901.730497] NVRM: os_pci_init_handle:
> invalid context!
> Mar  5 00:32:28 gurh kernel: [17901.730545] NVRM: os_pci_init_handle:
> invalid context!
> Mar  5 00:32:28 gurh kernel: [17901.730551] NVRM: os_pci_init_handle:
> invalid context!
> Mar  5 00:32:29 gurh kernel: [17902.264522] irq 19: nobody cared (try
> booting with the "irqpoll" option)
> Mar  5 00:32:29 gurh kernel: [17902.264527] Pid: 2692, comm: krunner
> Tainted: P   O 3.2.0-1-686-pae #1
> Mar  5 00:32:29 gurh kernel: [17902.264529] Call Trace:
> Mar  5 00:32:29 gurh kernel: [17902.264535]  [] ?
> __report_bad_irq+0x1c/0x8d
> Mar  5 00:32:29 gurh kernel: [17902.264538]  [] ?
> note_interrupt+0x122/0x18f
> Mar  5 00:32:29 gurh kernel: [17902.264540]  [] ?
> handle_irq_event_percpu+0x142/0x158
> Mar  5 00:32:29 gurh kernel: [17902.264542]  [] ?
> handle_level_irq+0x62/0x62
> Mar  5 00:32:29 gurh kernel: [17902.264544]  [] ?
> handle_irq_event+0x21/0x37
> Mar  5 00:32:29 gurh kernel: [17902.264547]  [] ?
> handle_level_irq+0x62/0x62
> Mar  5 00:32:29 gurh kernel: [17902.264549]  [] ?
> handle_fasteoi_irq+0x60/0x78
> Mar  5 00:32:29 gurh kernel: [17902.264550][] ?
> do_IRQ+0x2e/0x76
> Mar  5 00:32:29 gurh kernel: [17902.264556]  [] ?
> common_interrupt+0x30/0x38
> Mar  5 00:32:29 gurh kernel: [17902.264558]  [] ?
> audit_socketcall+0x12/0x40
> Mar  5 00:32:29 gurh kernel: [17902.264561]  [] ?
> sys_socketcall+0x61/0x1da
> Mar  5 00:32:29 gurh kernel: [17902.264563]  [] ?
> sysenter_do_call+0x12/0x28
> Mar  5 00:32:29 gurh kernel: [17902.264565] handlers:
> Mar  5 00:32:29 gurh kernel: [17902.264580] []
> ata_bmdma_interrupt
> Mar  5 00:32:29 gurh kernel: [17902.264685] [] nv_kern_isr
> Mar  5 00:32:29 gurh kernel: [17902.264687] Disabling IRQ #19
> 
> and on the Xorg.0.log
> [25.418] (**) Option "xkb_rules" "evdev"
> [25.418] (**) Option "xkb_model" "pc104"
> [25.418] (**) Option "xkb_layout" "us"
> [25.418] (II) config/udev: Adding input device PC Speaker
> (/dev/input/event3)
> [25.418] (II) No input driver/identifier specified (ignoring)
> [   582.227] (WW) Open ACPI failed (/var/run/acpid.socket) (Connection
> refused)
> [   583.227] (II) Open ACPI successful (/var/run/acpid.socket)
> 
> 
> Can someone shed some light on what is going on? Is my graphics card
> (NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GTS) dying? Its fan does make a lot of noise
> though.
> -- 


Apologies. I didn't have the correct version of nvidia drivers installed
for my kernel. 
Installed it with m-a.
Reloaded the new module.
ii  nvidia-kernel-3.2.0-1-686-pae295.20-1+3.2.7-1 

Syslog gave the warning again as above!

So it this just a kernel issue?

Thanks,
KS

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Re: Free movies on the Internet -- download scams

[Christofer C. Bell]

On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 4:53 PM, Sian Mountbatten
 wrote:
> Hi All!
>
> It occurred to me that there might be free movies to download. So I did a
> web search with Google and got lots of sites; but there's a catch! You have
> to register (for free). So I give my email address and a password and
> discover that that email address is already used. Well, nobody else has that
> email address, so I must have forgotten that I had logged in. So I click on
> , key in my email address and told that my account has been
> activated and that I should contact a support site. But that needs my email
> address and password. And so it goes on. And when I get to a site that
> doesn't go through all that rigmarole, I have to download an .exe file
> which, of course, won't run on Linux. So it appears that Linux users cannot
> download free movies.

So if I understand this correctly, you've been plugging your email
address and passwords into phishing sites, and then downloading their
"freely available" Windows-based keylogger ... and you want to know
... what, exactly?  How to get a phishing site that's harvesting email
passwords and offering malware to actually cough up a free movie?

What am I missing here?

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Screen unresponsive

[KS]

Hi all,

The last few days I ahve noticed that when I return to my machine
(always ON), the screen doesn't respond. Keyboard (caps lock, num lock)
works. I can also ssh to the machine and have noticed that Xorg takes
100% CPU. I couldn't find anything in the Xorg log or syslog files.

Today however, the screen stopped responding after a beep while I was
using the machine. Below is what I found on sys log:

Mar  5 00:32:28 gurh kernel: [17901.730462] NVRM: GPU at :01:00.0
has fallen off the bus.
Mar  5 00:32:28 gurh kernel: [17901.730487] NVRM: os_pci_init_handle:
invalid context!
Mar  5 00:32:28 gurh kernel: [17901.730497] NVRM: os_pci_init_handle:
invalid context!
Mar  5 00:32:28 gurh kernel: [17901.730545] NVRM: os_pci_init_handle:
invalid context!
Mar  5 00:32:28 gurh kernel: [17901.730551] NVRM: os_pci_init_handle:
invalid context!
Mar  5 00:32:29 gurh kernel: [17902.264522] irq 19: nobody cared (try
booting with the "irqpoll" option)
Mar  5 00:32:29 gurh kernel: [17902.264527] Pid: 2692, comm: krunner
Tainted: P   O 3.2.0-1-686-pae #1
Mar  5 00:32:29 gurh kernel: [17902.264529] Call Trace:
Mar  5 00:32:29 gurh kernel: [17902.264535]  [] ?
__report_bad_irq+0x1c/0x8d
Mar  5 00:32:29 gurh kernel: [17902.264538]  [] ?
note_interrupt+0x122/0x18f
Mar  5 00:32:29 gurh kernel: [17902.264540]  [] ?
handle_irq_event_percpu+0x142/0x158
Mar  5 00:32:29 gurh kernel: [17902.264542]  [] ?
handle_level_irq+0x62/0x62
Mar  5 00:32:29 gurh kernel: [17902.264544]  [] ?
handle_irq_event+0x21/0x37
Mar  5 00:32:29 gurh kernel: [17902.264547]  [] ?
handle_level_irq+0x62/0x62
Mar  5 00:32:29 gurh kernel: [17902.264549]  [] ?
handle_fasteoi_irq+0x60/0x78
Mar  5 00:32:29 gurh kernel: [17902.264550][] ?
do_IRQ+0x2e/0x76
Mar  5 00:32:29 gurh kernel: [17902.264556]  [] ?
common_interrupt+0x30/0x38
Mar  5 00:32:29 gurh kernel: [17902.264558]  [] ?
audit_socketcall+0x12/0x40
Mar  5 00:32:29 gurh kernel: [17902.264561]  [] ?
sys_socketcall+0x61/0x1da
Mar  5 00:32:29 gurh kernel: [17902.264563]  [] ?
sysenter_do_call+0x12/0x28
Mar  5 00:32:29 gurh kernel: [17902.264565] handlers:
Mar  5 00:32:29 gurh kernel: [17902.264580] []
ata_bmdma_interrupt
Mar  5 00:32:29 gurh kernel: [17902.264685] [] nv_kern_isr
Mar  5 00:32:29 gurh kernel: [17902.264687] Disabling IRQ #19

and on the Xorg.0.log
[25.418] (**) Option "xkb_rules" "evdev"
[25.418] (**) Option "xkb_model" "pc104"
[25.418] (**) Option "xkb_layout" "us"
[25.418] (II) config/udev: Adding input device PC Speaker
(/dev/input/event3)
[25.418] (II) No input driver/identifier specified (ignoring)
[   582.227] (WW) Open ACPI failed (/var/run/acpid.socket) (Connection
refused)
[   583.227] (II) Open ACPI successful (/var/run/acpid.socket)


Can someone shed some light on what is going on? Is my graphics card
(NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GTS) dying? Its fan does make a lot of noise
though.
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[SOLVED] How do I suppress dpms mode setting messages on text console?

[Stephen Powell]

On Sun, 04 Mar 2012 20:39:20 -0500 (EST), Scott Ferguson wrote:
> On 05/03/12 05:08, Tom H wrote:
>> 
>> Isn't this a "/proc/sys/kernel/printk" issue?
>> 
>> You can set "kernel.printk = 3 4 1 3" in "/etc/sysctl.conf".
> 
> 
> Yes - *that* should work (I haven't tested as I don't run the open
> driver - but I've used it to suppress other annoying messages)
> 
> Won't apply until reboot though. For immediate effect:-
> echo "3 4 1 3" > /proc/sys/kernel/printk

Thanks, Scott and Tom.  Based on the information that the two of
you supplied, I have found a solution.  I ended up setting

kernel.printk = 6 4 1 6

For my situation, that was sufficient.  The messages that I was
trying to suppress were at level 7 (debug-level messages); so setting
the console loglevel to 6 was sufficient in my case.  Thanks again.
Thanks also to all who replied.

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Re: How do I suppress dpms mode setting messages on text console?

[Scott Ferguson]

On 05/03/12 05:08, Tom H wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 12:16 PM, Stephen Powell  wrote:
>>
>> I am using Debian wheezy i386 with an Nvidia video card and the default
>> nouveau driver. �Everytime I switch back and forth between the X console
>> (tty7) and a text console (such as tty1), tty1 gets spammed with messages
>> like this:
>>
>> [drm] nouveau :01:00.0: Setting dpms mode 3 on vga encoder (output 0)
>> [drm] nouveau :01:00.0: Setting dpms mode 0 on vga encoder (output 0)
>> [drm] nouveau :01:00.0: Output VGA-1 is running on CRTC 0 using output A
>>
>> I assume that mode 3 is graphics mode (X server) and mode 0 is text mode
>> (frame buffer simulated text console).
>>
>> Similar messages occur if I stay in a text console long enough for the
>> power management feature to turn off the display and then I re-activate the
>> display again (such as by pressing the Shift key by itself). �Apparently,
>> when power management kicks in, I get dmps mode 1; and when I re-activate
>> the console it switches back to dpms mode 0. �I do not get these results
>> on another computer which uses the Nvidia proprietary driver (nvidia),
>> nor did I get such results using this computer back when I used
>> the older free nvidia driver (nv), which has since been dropped from the
>> distribution.
>>
>> I consider these messages to be noise messages and I wish to suppress them.
>> I don't mind if they are written to the kernel log, but I don't ever want to
>> see them written to the console itself (except maybe during boot).
>>
>> I tried searching the internet, but I didn't find anything useful. �Is there
>> a way to suppress these messages without suppressing true error messages?
>> Maybe there's a module option that I can set in /etc/modprobe.d/local.conf,
>> or something along those lines? �Any help will be appreciated.
> 
> Isn't this a "/proc/sys/kernel/printk" issue?
> 
> You can set "kernel.printk = 3 4 1 3" in "/etc/sysctl.conf".


Yes - *that* should work (I haven't tested as I don't run the open
driver - but I've used it to suppress other annoying messages)

Won't apply until reboot though. For immediate effect:-
echo "3 4 1 3" > /proc/sys/kernel/printk


>> Where can I find documentation on this?

/usr/src/linux-source-2.6.32/Documentation/sysctl/kernel.txt

(adjust to suit your kernel)


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Re: Problem with NetworkManager - WAS: Re: Help needed to repair a damaged dual boot Debian System

[Bernard]

Tom H wrote:

On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 8:43 AM, Bernard  wrote:
  

Selim T. Erdogan wrote:


Andrei POPESCU,  3.03.2012:
  

On Sb, 03 mar 12, 20:59:30, Bernard wrote:


Thanks in advance for your help with the 'NetworkManager' or any
other convenient tool that would operate on Squeeze so as to easily
turn an Internet connexion ON and OFF
  

Make sure you have NO definition for eth0 in /etc/network/interfaces and
that you have:

[ifupdown]
managed=false

in /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf

If it still doesn't work after a restart[1] please attach both files.

[1] not sure why, but in some cases new configurations did not work
properly until a full restart


Or you can keep /etc/network/interfaces as you have it now and edit
/etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf to have

[main]
plugins=ifupdown,keyfile

[ifupdown]
managed=true

(And you have to restart Network Manager.)
  

I just tested both ways, to no avail.

At first, I must say that my system did not have any

NetworkManager.conf file in /etc/NetworkManager/

The only NetworkManager.conf file that could be found on this system was in

/etc/dbus-1/system.d/

I can see the same thing on this other machine still on Lenny, where I am
writing this from: no  /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf file either.

the man page for NetworkManager does not mention any such conf file. I did
not dare modifying /etc/dbus-1/system.d/NetworkManager.conf

But I tested creating an /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf, with only


[main]
plugins=ifupdown,keyfile

[ifupdown]
managed=false
**

As a first trial, I had just written:

***
[ifupdown]
managed=false
*

in it. But maybe I should have modified permissions and owner ?  Owner was
root and perms: -rw-r--r--

Besides, my /etc/network/interfaces file did not contain any definition for
eth0. Still, I tested removing any mention of eth0, to no avail.

Below is my  'etc/network/interfaces' file :

*

# This file describes the network interfaces available on your system
# and how to activate them. For more information, see interfaces(5).

# The loopback network interface
auto lo
iface lo inet loopback

# The primary network interface
allow-hotplug eth0
iface eth0 inet dhcp

*



The file in "/etc/dbus-1/system.d/" is useful (to systems) if you have
systemd installed.

Do you have network access?

With your current setup, "managed=false" and eth0 defined in
"/etc/network/interfaces" you can control eth0 with ifup and if down.

With "managed=true", you'd have to use NM to bring up or take down eth0.


  
I just don't understand what happens. Whatever I try with 
'NetworkManager'... FAILS !  Besides, as previously stated, I have tried 
to install 'wicd'... It did install all right, and worked as far as 
disconnecting was concerned, but no way to reconnect except on a 
re-boot. Now that I wish to get rid of 'wicd', just in case it would 
interfer with 'NetworkManager', I can't get rid of it ! 


#apt-get remove wicd

did remove it, so it said... if I try to remove it again, it says that 
it is no longer there... however, I can still see 'wicd network manager' 
on my gnome desktop, and, if I launch it, it still disconnects my 
Internet link, and is still unable to reconnect it !  Now, if I try


#ifup and #ifdown eth0, it seems to work... I repeat: it "SEEMS TO WORK" 
but it does not REALLY work !!  Here is what I see:


#ifup eth0

..
...
receive packet failed on eth0: Network is down
..
DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 6
DHCPOFFER from 192.168.1.1
DHCPREQUEST on eth0...
DHCPACK form 192.168.1.1
SIOCADDRT: File exists
bound to 192.168.1.15 -- renewal in 40322 seconds.
#

at this point, if I start again the command:

#ifup eth0

I get this:

ifup: interface eth0 already configured (which I agree was expected as 
normal !)


ifdown disconfigure eth0 ; ifup reconfigures it...  Except that, whether 
it is configured or disconfigured, the network (the Internet network) is 
up and running, as if it did not care whether ifup had it configured or 
not !  (I must state that I have no wireless connexion on this machine, 
just one wired ethernet connexion, no more).


Ooh... Well... let me see... I just finished testing something... As 
previously stated, 'wicd' only works in the purpose of disconnecting ; 
it never reconnects ; it does that job even though I have supposedly 
removed it... I just tested disconnecting with wicd... and now that it 
is really disconnected, I can REALLY reconnect with '#ifup eth0' and 
REALLY disconnect using '#ifdown eth0', back and forth as many times as 
I wish... provided that I have first disconnected - using 'wicd' - the 
connexion that occured automatically upon boot !


I hope that these symp

Re: How do I suppress dpms mode setting messages on text console?

[Tom H]

On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 8:01 PM, Stephen Powell  wrote:
> On Sun, 04 Mar 2012 13:08:00 -0500 (EST), Tom H wrote:
>>
>> Isn't this a "/proc/sys/kernel/printk" issue?
>>
>> You can set "kernel.printk = 3 4 1 3" in "/etc/sysctl.conf".
>
> This looks promising.
> Where can I find documentation on this?

"/usr/src/linux/Documentation/sysctl/kernel.txt" and "man 2 syslog".


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Re: How do I suppress dpms mode setting messages on text console?

[Stephen Powell]

On Sun, 04 Mar 2012 13:33:14 -0500 (EST), Sven Joachim wrote:
> 
> There is no text mode with nouveau.

There is no true, hardware-level text mode, that's correct.
However, Linux still has what are called, in everyday use,
"text consoles" (vt1-vt6).  I did explicitly state in my original
post that a frame buffer driver is being used.
> 
> Add "quiet" to the kernel command line, this will suppress noise from
> other drivers as well.

Thanks for the tip.  I will consider trying this if I don't find a
more selective solution.

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Re: missing screen resolutions

[Robert Holtzman]

On Thu, Mar 01, 2012 at 10:11:39AM +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Mi, 29 feb 12, 16:40:22, Robert Holtzman wrote:
> > Just loaded squeeze onto a Lenovo T420i and the max resolution I get is
> > 1024x768. According to System -> Preferences -> Monitors the only
> > resolutions available are 1024x768, 960x600, and 800x600. xrandr shows
> > the same thing. Using the on board intel Sandy Bridge graphics. 
> ... 
> > I would love to know how to attack this.
> 
> AFAIK you need kernel and Xorg from backports.

I was dismissive of this when I first read it. Since then I tried a
Debian live CD and found the same problem, lending more credence to your
recommendation. The question(s) now become:
 
1) which kernel? the latest 2.6 or the 3.0? Any conflicts with choosing 
the 3.0? Libraries?

2) Which Xorg? xorg_7.5+8+squeeze1_i386.deb?

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Re: How do I suppress dpms mode setting messages on text console?

[Stephen Powell]

On Sun, 04 Mar 2012 13:08:00 -0500 (EST), Tom H wrote:
> 
> Isn't this a "/proc/sys/kernel/printk" issue?
> 
> You can set "kernel.printk = 3 4 1 3" in "/etc/sysctl.conf".

This looks promising.
Where can I find documentation on this?

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Re: How do I suppress dpms mode setting messages on text console?

[Stephen Powell]

On Sun, 04 Mar 2012 12:29:20 -0500 (EST), Camaleón wrote:
> 
> A similar concern was raised on this thread of Gentoo forums:
> 
> nouveau drm mode switch messages
> http://forums-web1.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-863335-start-0.html
> 
> Maybe you can find something of interest there :-?

Thanks for your reply, Camaleón.  I've looked over this thread.
The explanation is complicated, and the solution doesn't sound
particularly appealing, but I'll give this a try if I don't
find a better one.  Thanks again.

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Re: OT: Copying a URL from a text browser (was: Re: text browsers)

[Greg Donoghue]

> > > The only problem is the aggravating yahoo URLs that are very long--I just
> > > checked one that is 537 characters long.  So, far, with middle mouse
> > > button copying, I am not able to copy that from the one line display at
> > > the bottom of the screen.  (I suspect it can't be done.)
> >
> > I find that I can do it by just continuing to run the mouse over the link
> > with the left button depressed, until it comes to a halt against the
> > barrier of the end of the URL.

Have you tried, while in lynx, pressing "," or "."  ?
The first, "," presents a menu to use an external program on the
rendered web page.
The second, "." presents a menu to use an external program on the
highlighted link.
No copy/paste is required.
These functions can be edited in your lynx.cfg

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Re: rsync

[Lisi]

On Sunday 04 March 2012 15:30:13 Chris Bannister wrote:
> We still use the basic English words, (i.e. boot instead of trunk, Mum
> instead of Mom, etc. etc. etc) although that seems to be changing as
> more Americanisms creep into usage. For example, I now notice that first
> year University students are now referred to as "freshers" in some
> literature.

Sorry, Chris - I was reading this and I saw the wonderful irony!  You say that 
in NZ you use the basic English words - but you refer to freshers as an 
American import.  

When I started at Cambridge in 1961 we had a freshers' fair to introduce us to 
the available societies.  I have just Googled to see whether new students 
still do, and they do.

So perhaps the term is being imported from England rather than America. ;-)

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Re: [OT] munin

[Brad Alexander]

On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 4:20 PM, Bob Proulx  wrote:
> Brad Alexander wrote:
>> Can anyone tell me why these 5 nodes will not connect to the server
>> and refuses connections to localhost and ::1?
>
> For what it is worth I have exactly the same problem on Sid.  Works
> okay on Squeeze.  Broken on Sid.  Sid the munin-node doesn't bind to
> an IPv4 accessible address.

My problem is that there is no rhyme or reason to this. Statistically,
it seems to be across the board. I have 14 machines that I am trying
to get set up. Of those, 7 are physical machines and 8 are OpenVZ
containers. 9 are working, 5 are not. Here is what I am looking at
statistically:

Working:
lenny: 1
squeeze: 3
wheezy: 1
sid: 4

Non-working:
wheezy: 2
sid: 3

The versions in wheezy and sid are the same (1.4.6-3), the version in
squeeze is 1.4.5-3 and the version in lenny is 1.2.6-10~lenny2.

So since the problem seems to be so widespread, I'm guessing it has to
be something with the way the machine is configured...I have looked at
a lot of the usual suspects (logs, firewall, etc) but have come up
empty.

--b

> This used to work fine in Sid up through around the end of September
> 2011 but then was broken by some upgrade.  I note that it was broken
> then but forgot to go back and look as to why or what broke it.  Your
> note here reminds me of this and tells me that I should go look to see
> why.  All of my production systems run Stable and so hasn't been on my
> radar.  Out of sight and out of mind.  But definitely needs to be
> investigated and resolved before Wheezy releases.  (That should put
> this clearly on-topic for debian-user. )
>
> Check the version of munin-node and dependencies of it on all of your
> systems and you will find it correlated to one of the versions.
>
> Bob


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Re: [OT] munin

[Brad Alexander]

On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 3:52 PM, Wolfgang Karall
 wrote:
>
> On Sun, Mar 04, 2012 at 07:11:49AM -0500, Brad Alexander wrote:
>> > alias net-pf-10 off
>>
>> Ah. I figured if the net-pf-10 was commented out, it was taken out of play.
>
> No, you actually have to turn it off, commented out means use the
> defaults, i.e. IPv6 is available.
>
> Not that it matters I guess. The netstat output for many servers shows
> only TCP6/UDP6, but they still work on IPv4 as well (there are 2 ways to
> create the sockets, I can't remember the details), e.g. apache:
>
> lenny:~# netstat -tulpen | grep apache
> tcp6       0      0 :::80    :::* LISTEN 0 2062901     7794/apache2
> tcp6       0      0 :::443   :::* LISTEN 0 2062905     7794/apache2

>> The only one not commented out is
>>
>>   allow ^192\.168\.4\.63$
>>
>> Where 192.168.4.63 is the munin server.
>
> And from the munin server, what does
>
> echo -e 'list\nquit' | nc  4949
>
> yield for the working/non-working hosts, any difference?

Yes. Non-working:

 echo -e 'list\nquit' | nc 192.168.4.9 4949
(UNKNOWN) [192.168.4.9] 4949 (munin) : Connection refused

And working:

echo -e 'list\nquit' | nc 192.168.4.11 4949
# munin node at farragut
cpu df df_inode entropy exim_mailqueue exim_mailstats forks fw_packets
http_loadtime if_err_eth0 if_eth0 interrupts iostat iostat_ios
irqstats load ntp_kernel_err ntp_kernel_pll_freq ntp_kernel_pll_off
ntp_offset open_files open_inodes proc_pri processes swap threads
uptime vmstat


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Re: sound issues

[Scott Ferguson]

On 05/03/12 03:24, Raffaele Morelli wrote:
> 
> 
> 2012/3/4 Darren Crotchett  >
> 



> 
> I restarted pulseaudio with: /etc/init.d/pulseaudio restart
> 
> This did not seem to work. So, I rebooted. This seems to work. I
> was able to play a movie with sound on VLC, Minecraft and Skype all
> at once without breaking anything.
> 
> 
> 
> As far as I remember that is about it. As I said, setting those
> explicitly
> may not be needed anymore, I just don't know.
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> Kelly Clowers
> 
> 
> 
> Thank you so much for sticking with me. I appreciate everyone's
> comments. I hope that someone with find this thread useful in the
> future.
> 
> 
> Just to clarify with Kelly about what "complicated" stands for :-)
> 
> IMHO you are going to get what you want in two steps:
> killall pulseaudio && aptitude install jackd qjackctl
> 
> regards
> -r

"what you want" meaning a complicated setup that allows WOW and Skype to
co-exist - but requires you to fiddle with every upgrade, and more
fiddling for every application that requires sound.

With the greatest respect - though you've invested a great deal in the
belief that pulseaudio is bad, it's not a belief shared by the upstream
developers of most applications (or more importantly, Debian).

PA doesn't stop you using JACK - it's one of many sound systems that
work just fine *under* PA (I run Ardour). Contrary to some commentary -
PA is just a foreman, not a wheelbarrow.

There's a number of things that PA can do[*1], that [insert pet sound
system here] can't do. The reverse is not true - because PA allows you
to run [insert pet sound system here].

[*1] Per-application volume controls.
An extensible plugin architecture with support for loadable modules.
Compatibility with many popular audio applications.
Support for multiple audio sources and sinks.
Low-latency operation and support for latency measurement.
A zero-copy memory architecture for processor resource efficiency.
Ability to discover other computers using PulseAudio on the local
network and play sound through their speakers directly.
Ability to change which output device an application plays sound through
while the application is playing sound (without the application needing
to support this, and indeed without even being aware that this happened).
A command-line interface with scripting capabilities.
A sound daemon with command line reconfiguration capabilities.
Built-in sample conversion and resampling capabilities.
The ability to combine multiple sound cards into one.
The ability to synchronize multiple playback streams (including across
networks, vms, through X etc).
Bluetooth audio devices with dynamic detection.
The ability to enable system wide equalization.
Support for most Operating Systems (and most many portable devices,
Nokia, Palm, and others).



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Re: How do I debug kernel panic that occurs while running X?

[Brendon Higgins]

Hi,

Jason Heeris wrote (Sun March 4, 2012):
> The most watertight way I know of to capture kernel
> output is a serial port and another computer. If, by any chance, you
> have one on your machine

Not really an option (at least, not an easy one), I'm afraid. I only have two 
machines, and neither of them have serial ports. Rendered obsolete, indeed.

Sven Joachim wrote (Sun March 4, 2012):
> Either log in via ssh if that is still possible,

The computer has gone well beyond the point of responding to anything coming 
in over the network by the time it has frozen.

> or use netconsole to capture kernel messages.

Thanks for the links. This looked promising, but I cannot get it to function. 
I can get the problem machine connected to a netbook successfully (I can talk 
between them over UDP using netcat). However, netconsole refuses to transmit 
any messages. I install the module just as the article you linked to suggests, 
and it appears to be correct when I see it logged in dmesg:
[103337.293616] netconsole: local port 6665
[103337.293626] netconsole: local IP 0.0.0.0
[103337.293632] netconsole: interface 'eth0'
[103337.293637] netconsole: remote port 
[103337.293642] netconsole: remote IP 192.168.0.1
[103337.293646] netconsole: remote ethernet address ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
[103337.293654] netconsole: local IP 192.168.0.2
[103337.293754] console [netcon0] enabled
[103337.293762] netconsole: network logging started
But this doesn't seem to work - there's just nothing transmitted. I can't even 
get it to send messages to a netcat listener on the same machine.

Have you (or anyone) found this approach works? Is there something I'm 
missing?

Thanks for your help so far.

Peace,
Brendon


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Re: Desktop icons missing

[Kai-Martin Knaak]

Frank McCormick wrote:

> That's what works here in gnome-classic.
> 
That's what works in standard gnome themn, too. I have yet to see
a reason tot run gnome-classic beyond the obvious absence of compositing 
effects.

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Re: [OT] munin

[Bob Proulx]

Brad Alexander wrote:
> Can anyone tell me why these 5 nodes will not connect to the server
> and refuses connections to localhost and ::1?

For what it is worth I have exactly the same problem on Sid.  Works
okay on Squeeze.  Broken on Sid.  Sid the munin-node doesn't bind to
an IPv4 accessible address.

This used to work fine in Sid up through around the end of September
2011 but then was broken by some upgrade.  I note that it was broken
then but forgot to go back and look as to why or what broke it.  Your
note here reminds me of this and tells me that I should go look to see
why.  All of my production systems run Stable and so hasn't been on my
radar.  Out of sight and out of mind.  But definitely needs to be
investigated and resolved before Wheezy releases.  (That should put
this clearly on-topic for debian-user. )

Check the version of munin-node and dependencies of it on all of your
systems and you will find it correlated to one of the versions.

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Re: encrypted root - change keyboard layout

[Matthias Weiler]

On 03/03/2012 12:18 PM, Florian Kulzer wrote:
> If you manage to chroot into your encrypted system then you can try the
> following workaround: Make sure that your keyboard configuration is
> coirrect, then save it
> 
>   setupcon --save-keyboard cached.kmap
>   gzip -9n cached.kmap

I created a bootable usb stick with unetbootin and the debian live image
6.0.3 amd64 standard.

I didn't check if the version of setupcon was to old (the bugreport
mentions that feature was implemented in 1.72) but --save-keyboard
wasn't available.

I added a new passphrase without special characters and everything works
fine now.

Thanks a lot for the information and suggestions!


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Re: How do I suppress dpms mode setting messages on text console?

[Bob Proulx]

Stephen Powell wrote:
> I consider these messages to be noise messages and I wish to suppress them.
> I don't mind if they are written to the kernel log, but I don't ever want to
> see them written to the console itself (except maybe during boot).

Try this (meaning that I didn't and think it will accomplish this but
didn't test it myself):

  # dmesg -n5

I always set dmesg -n5 in order to avoid the flood of kernel messages
concerning blocked packets from my firewall.  But perhaps a different
level setting would be needed for your issue.

Here is the explanation:

The dmesg -nNUMBER sets the level at which the kernel will log
messages to the console.  The level is less than the number.
To avoid logging KERN_INFO 6 or lower must be used.  Here is the
definitions from the Linux kernel.

   #define KERN_EMERG   "<0>" /* system is unusable*/
   #define KERN_ALERT   "<1>" /* action must be taken immediately  */
   #define KERN_CRIT"<2>" /* critical conditions   */
   #define KERN_ERR "<3>" /* error conditions  */
   #define KERN_WARNING "<4>" /* warning conditions*/
   #define KERN_NOTICE  "<5>" /* normal but significant condition  */
   #define KERN_INFO"<6>" /* informational */
   #define KERN_DEBUG   "<7>" /* debug-level messages  */

The kernel default is 8 so that all messages are logged to the console.
At least one other distro sets this to 3 in /etc/syscontrol/init
and so users there never see console messages.  Debian doesn't make
this policy decision anywhere that I know of and so the level is left
unchanged at the default kernel value.  I set it in my Shorewall init
script since I am using it to block packet messages.

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Re: [OT] munin

[Wolfgang Karall]

On Sun, Mar 04, 2012 at 07:11:49AM -0500, Brad Alexander wrote:
> > alias net-pf-10 off
> 
> Ah. I figured if the net-pf-10 was commented out, it was taken out of play.
 
No, you actually have to turn it off, commented out means use the
defaults, i.e. IPv6 is available.

Not that it matters I guess. The netstat output for many servers shows
only TCP6/UDP6, but they still work on IPv4 as well (there are 2 ways to
create the sockets, I can't remember the details), e.g. apache:

lenny:~# netstat -tulpen | grep apache
tcp6   0  0 :::80:::* LISTEN 0 2062901 7794/apache2
tcp6   0  0 :::443   :::* LISTEN 0 2062905 7794/apache2

> The only one not commented out is
> 
>   allow ^192\.168\.4\.63$
> 
> Where 192.168.4.63 is the munin server.

And from the munin server, what does

echo -e 'list\nquit' | nc  4949

yield for the working/non-working hosts, any difference?

Cheers
Wolfgang

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Re: Readonly filesystem on boot

[Bob Proulx]

Johann Spies wrote:
> Bob Proulx wrote:
> > If that didn't yield anything then I would boot into single user mode
> > and manually run each startup script up through mountall.sh and then
> > debug running that script to see what the problem is.  I usually debug
> > scripts by running them with 'sh -x scriptname' and looking at the
> > trace output.
> 
> Thanks.  I will try that.

Johann and I exchanged some offlist email and I will report here to
provide feedback for the mailing list archive that in the /etc/init.d
script path Johann found problems local to his system.  This prevented
the package postinst scripts from functioning correctly breaking
package reinstalls.  Johann was able to correct them and was able to
resolve the problem.  Yay!  Fixed.

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Re: bash-completion problem

[Keith McKenzie]

On 04/03/12 16:20, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote:

Hi list,

does anyone know, how to check or reinitialise bash-completition?

The problem:

mkisofs is a link to genisoimage, but the command mkisofs is not known.

I checked

ullhan63@protheus2: ls -la /usr/share/bash-completion/completions/ | grep iso
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  2880 Jan 11 14:42 genisoimage
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   917 Jan 11 14:42 growisofs
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root11 Jan 11 14:42 mkisofs ->  genisoimage

but everything seems ok. The problem appears only on my 32-bit EEPC, which got
(as far as I could see) an identical configuration like my working 64-bit-
machine.

Any other hints?

Regards

Hans



   

You could  add 'alias mkisofs=genisoimage' to your .bashrc file.

The next time you open a shell/terminal mkisofs will bring up genisoimage.


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Re: OT: Copying a URL from a text browser (was: Re: text browsers)

[Jude DaShiell]

On Sun, 4 Mar 2012, Randy Kramer wrote:

> On Sunday 04 March 2012 10:31:41 am Lisi wrote:
> > On Sunday 04 March 2012 12:51:17 Randy Kramer wrote:
> > > The only problem is the aggravating yahoo URLs that are very long--I just
> > > checked one that is 537 characters long.  So, far, with middle mouse
> > > button copying, I am not able to copy that from the one line display at
> > > the bottom of the screen.  (I suspect it can't be done.)
> >
> > I find that I can do it by just continuing to run the mouse over the link
> > with the left button depressed, until it comes to a halt against the
> > barrier of the end of the URL.
> 
> Thanks, but I can't seem to get that to work.
> 
> And, apparently I mispoke / mistyped--I've apparently been using the left 
> mouse button to attempt to copy the URL at the bottom of the screen all 
> along, not the middle mouse button.
> 
> Randy Kramer
> 
> 
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Try opening up the url with lynx first.  next hit the "=" key and you'll 
bring up a display of information about the page.  Near the bottom of that 
display will be your url.  There will be two url: entries on that page, 
you want the second one of them.


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Re: sound issues

[Kelly Clowers]

On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 08:24, Raffaele Morelli
 wrote:
>
>
> Just to clarify with Kelly about what "complicated" stands for :-)
>
> IMHO you are going to get what you want in two steps:
> killall pulseaudio && aptitude install jackd qjackctl
>

http://alsa.opensrc.org/Jack_and_Loopback_device_as_Alsa-to-Jack_bridge
is definitely more complicated than PA.

The rest is about the same, you have to make sure things are installed, and set
apps to use jack, just as you do with PA.

>if you want two or more audio apps to share the same sound device, start 
>qjackctl, tell vlc to use jack output module and do the same with other apps 
>if needed.


Cheers,
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Re: wireless is disabled

[Wayne Topa]

On 02/23/2012 12:27 PM, lina wrote:

which updated packages:

libnetcdf6
libhdf5-serial-1.8.4
libhdf5-7
libnetcdfc6
libnetcdff5
libnetcdfc++5
libcf0
login
man-db
login
foomatic-db-compressed-ppds
foomatic-filters
lib32asound2-dev
lib32asound2
libasound2-dev
libasound2
libustr-1.0-1
man-db
libustr-1.0-1
libsemanage-common
libsemanage1
passwd
man-db
passwd
libsqlite3-dev
libsqlite3-0
mime-support
alsa-utils
fonts-droid
ghostscript
ghostscript-x
libgs9
libgs9-common
ghostscript-cups
libasound2-plugins
libencode-locale-perl
libparse-recdescent-perl
python-sip
python-qt4
xserver-xorg-video-openchrome
man-db
fontconfig
libhdf5-7
libnetcdfc6
libnetcdff5
libnetcdfc++5
libcf0
libnetcdf6
foomatic-db-compressed-ppds
foomatic-filters
libasound2
lib32asound2
libasound2-dev
lib32asound2-dev
libsqlite3-0
libsqlite3-dev
mime-support
alsa-utils
fonts-droid
libgs9-common
libgs9
ghostscript
ghostscript-x
ghostscript-cups
libasound2-plugins
libencode-locale-perl
libparse-recdescent-perl

I don't know whether some of them related to it.

Thanks and I really have no clue about how to start to examine and
solve this problem.


apt-cache show   is a start.


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Re: [OT] sorry, bad url reference

[Randy Kramer]

On Sunday 04 March 2012 11:40:56 am Chris Bannister wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 05, 2012 at 04:30:13AM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote:
> > [1] http://thescreamonline.com/essays/essays08-01/basically.html
>
> That URL produces "406 Not Acceptable". Not sure why I included that
> link without checking it first. :(

Interesting discussion in this and other posts (including from Lisi).

I guess I'll try to duck out of this discussion with as much dignity as I may 
have left. ;-)

I do note:
   * that URL (the one to the "basically" article) works for me
   * I find it unfortunate that the writer of that article is apparently 
unaware of the $1M trust fund that Bill Gates started with (from his 
grandfather)

Randy Kramer



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Re: How do I suppress dpms mode setting messages on text console?

[Sven Joachim]

On 2012-03-04 18:16 +0100, Stephen Powell wrote:

> I am using Debian wheezy i386 with an Nvidia video card and the default
> nouveau driver.  Everytime I switch back and forth between the X console
> (tty7) and a text console (such as tty1), tty1 gets spammed with messages
> like this:
>
> [drm] nouveau :01:00.0: Setting dpms mode 3 on vga encoder (output 0)
> [drm] nouveau :01:00.0: Setting dpms mode 0 on vga encoder (output 0)
> [drm] nouveau :01:00.0: Output VGA-1 is running on CRTC 0 using output A
>
> I assume that mode 3 is graphics mode (X server) and mode 0 is text mode
> (frame buffer simulated text console).

There is no text mode with nouveau.

> I consider these messages to be noise messages and I wish to suppress them.
> I don't mind if they are written to the kernel log, but I don't ever want to
> see them written to the console itself (except maybe during boot).

Add "quiet" to the kernel command line, this will suppress noise from
other drivers as well.

Sven


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Re: OT: Copying a URL from a text browser (was: Re: text browsers)

[Randy Kramer]

On Sunday 04 March 2012 10:31:41 am Lisi wrote:
> On Sunday 04 March 2012 12:51:17 Randy Kramer wrote:
> > The only problem is the aggravating yahoo URLs that are very long--I just
> > checked one that is 537 characters long.  So, far, with middle mouse
> > button copying, I am not able to copy that from the one line display at
> > the bottom of the screen.  (I suspect it can't be done.)
>
> I find that I can do it by just continuing to run the mouse over the link
> with the left button depressed, until it comes to a halt against the
> barrier of the end of the URL.

Thanks, but I can't seem to get that to work.

And, apparently I mispoke / mistyped--I've apparently been using the left 
mouse button to attempt to copy the URL at the bottom of the screen all 
along, not the middle mouse button.

Randy Kramer




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Re: Problem with NetworkManager - WAS: Re: Help needed to repair a damaged dual boot Debian System

[Tom H]

On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 8:43 AM, Bernard  wrote:
> Selim T. Erdogan wrote:
>> Andrei POPESCU,  3.03.2012:
>>> On Sb, 03 mar 12, 20:59:30, Bernard wrote:


 Thanks in advance for your help with the 'NetworkManager' or any
 other convenient tool that would operate on Squeeze so as to easily
 turn an Internet connexion ON and OFF
>>>
>>> Make sure you have NO definition for eth0 in /etc/network/interfaces and
>>> that you have:
>>>
>>> [ifupdown]
>>> managed=false
>>>
>>> in /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf
>>>
>>> If it still doesn't work after a restart[1] please attach both files.
>>>
>>> [1] not sure why, but in some cases new configurations did not work
>>> properly until a full restart
>>
>> Or you can keep /etc/network/interfaces as you have it now and edit
>> /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf to have
>>
>> [main]
>> plugins=ifupdown,keyfile
>>
>> [ifupdown]
>> managed=true
>>
>> (And you have to restart Network Manager.)
>
> I just tested both ways, to no avail.
>
> At first, I must say that my system did not have any
>
> NetworkManager.conf file in /etc/NetworkManager/
>
> The only NetworkManager.conf file that could be found on this system was in
>
> /etc/dbus-1/system.d/
>
> I can see the same thing on this other machine still on Lenny, where I am
> writing this from: no  /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf file either.
>
> the man page for NetworkManager does not mention any such conf file. I did
> not dare modifying /etc/dbus-1/system.d/NetworkManager.conf
>
> But I tested creating an /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf, with only
> 
>
> [main]
> plugins=ifupdown,keyfile
>
> [ifupdown]
> managed=false
> **
>
> As a first trial, I had just written:
>
> ***
> [ifupdown]
> managed=false
> *
>
> in it. But maybe I should have modified permissions and owner ?  Owner was
> root and perms: -rw-r--r--
>
> Besides, my /etc/network/interfaces file did not contain any definition for
> eth0. Still, I tested removing any mention of eth0, to no avail.
>
> Below is my  'etc/network/interfaces' file :
>
> *
>
> # This file describes the network interfaces available on your system
> # and how to activate them. For more information, see interfaces(5).
>
> # The loopback network interface
> auto lo
> iface lo inet loopback
>
> # The primary network interface
> allow-hotplug eth0
> iface eth0 inet dhcp
>
> *

The file in "/etc/dbus-1/system.d/" is useful (to systems) if you have
systemd installed.

Do you have network access?

With your current setup, "managed=false" and eth0 defined in
"/etc/network/interfaces" you can control eth0 with ifup and if down.

With "managed=true", you'd have to use NM to bring up or take down eth0.


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Re: How do I suppress dpms mode setting messages on text console?

[Tom H]

On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 12:16 PM, Stephen Powell  wrote:
>
> I am using Debian wheezy i386 with an Nvidia video card and the default
> nouveau driver.  Everytime I switch back and forth between the X console
> (tty7) and a text console (such as tty1), tty1 gets spammed with messages
> like this:
>
> [drm] nouveau :01:00.0: Setting dpms mode 3 on vga encoder (output 0)
> [drm] nouveau :01:00.0: Setting dpms mode 0 on vga encoder (output 0)
> [drm] nouveau :01:00.0: Output VGA-1 is running on CRTC 0 using output A
>
> I assume that mode 3 is graphics mode (X server) and mode 0 is text mode
> (frame buffer simulated text console).
>
> Similar messages occur if I stay in a text console long enough for the
> power management feature to turn off the display and then I re-activate the
> display again (such as by pressing the Shift key by itself).  Apparently,
> when power management kicks in, I get dmps mode 1; and when I re-activate
> the console it switches back to dpms mode 0.  I do not get these results
> on another computer which uses the Nvidia proprietary driver (nvidia),
> nor did I get such results using this computer back when I used
> the older free nvidia driver (nv), which has since been dropped from the
> distribution.
>
> I consider these messages to be noise messages and I wish to suppress them.
> I don't mind if they are written to the kernel log, but I don't ever want to
> see them written to the console itself (except maybe during boot).
>
> I tried searching the internet, but I didn't find anything useful.  Is there
> a way to suppress these messages without suppressing true error messages?
> Maybe there's a module option that I can set in /etc/modprobe.d/local.conf,
> or something along those lines?  Any help will be appreciated.

Isn't this a "/proc/sys/kernel/printk" issue?

You can set "kernel.printk = 3 4 1 3" in "/etc/sysctl.conf".


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Re: sound issues

[Darren Crotchett]

On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 10:24 AM, Raffaele Morelli <
raffaele.more...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> 2012/3/4 Darren Crotchett 
>
>> I am going to clearly remark as much as possible for the benefit of
>> anyone who may find this page later.  See my inline replies/comments.
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Kelly Clowers 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 05:53, Darren Crotchett 
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Can you elaborate on what you mean by "it just needs to be setup
>>> correctly"?
>>> > I'm going to be working on this issue today.  Before I install the
>>> > applications that Raffaele recommended, I want to give Pulseaudio one
>>> more
>>> > chance because I would rather figure out the problem than to
>>> circumvent it.
>>> > OTOH, I don't want to fight a losing battle either.
>>>
>>> So, I originally setup mine based on the PA wiki's "Perfect Setup".
>>> It is rather
>>> extensive and a lot of the stuff in there is from a time when there
>>> was less support
>>> for PA.
>>>
>>> Here are the essentials:
>>> Edit /etc/asound.conf (for all users) or ~/.asoundrc (per-user)
>>> I have only these two entries in mine:
>>>
>>
>> Neither of these files existed.  I didn't care about a per-user setting,
>> so I just created an /etc/asound.conf and added the recommended lines below.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> pcm.!default {
>>>type pulse
>>> }
>>> ctl.!default {
>>>type pulse
>>> }
>>>
>>>
>>> Make sure you are in the groups "audio", "pulse-access" and "pulse-rt"
>>>
>>
>> I used vigr and vigr -s to edit the groups.  My user was already in
>> "audio". I added it to "pulse-access" group.  And, I did not have a
>> pulse-rt group.  I did not create the group.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Make sure that Pulse is being run automatically at startup (it should be,
>>> I just remember when it was not, and I had to set it up myself).
>>>
>>
>> It was already starting automatically with /etc/init.d/pulseaudio
>>
>>
>>>
>>> ---
>>>
>>> The setting of the alsa default to pulse should make most things work,
>>> but personally I set a number of things to PA explicitly. At least some
>>> of these
>>> used to be required (they did not automatically use pulse and avoided the
>>> alsa default or similar). Nowadays that may not be the case, I don't
>>> know.
>>> Also they may have a PA driver that is different from the alsa driver,
>>> and
>>> may work better than redirected alsa.
>>>
>>> in ~/.mplayer/config: ao = pulse
>>>
>>> in ~/.xine/config: audio.driver:pulseaudio
>>>
>>> in ~/.vlcrc or ~/.config/vlc/vlcrc: aout=pulse
>>>
>>> in /etc/libao.conf: default_driver=pulse
>>>
>>>
>> I did not have the mplayer or xine config files above files.  So, I
>> created them and add the recommended lines.  I had the ~/.config/vlc/vlcrc.
>>  The aout directive was present, but was commented out and had no value.
>>  So, I set it.  I changed the /etc/libao.conf from default_driver=alsa to
>> default_driver=pulse.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> for gstreamer:
>>> gconftool-2 -t string --set /system/gstreamer/0.10/default/audiosink
>>> pulsesink
>>> gconftool-2 -t string --set /system/gstreamer/0.10/default/audiosrc
>>> pulsesrc
>>> gconftool-2 -t string --set
>>> /system/gstreamer/0.10/default/musicaudiosink pulsesink
>>> gconftool-2 -t string --set
>>> /system/gstreamer/0.10/default/chataudiosink pulsesink
>>>
>>
>> I ran the gconftool-2 commands.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> KDE's Phonon uses vlc, mplayer or gstreamer, so the above should cover
>>> that as well
>>>
>>> SDL (used for some games) can be set to explicitly use PA with:
>>> export SDL_AUDIODRIVER=pulse
>>> (needs to be done in a startup script like ~/.bashrc to be permanent)
>>>
>>
>> I added the export to the .bashrc.  I also executed it at the command
>> line so I didn't have to log out and back in.
>>
>> I restarted pulseaudio with: /etc/init.d/pulseaudio restart
>>
>> This did not seem to work.  So, I rebooted.  This seems to work.  I was
>> able to play a movie with sound on VLC, Minecraft and Skype all at once
>> without breaking anything.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> As far as I remember that is about it. As I said, setting those
>>> explicitly
>>> may not be needed anymore, I just don't know.
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Kelly Clowers
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Thank you so much for sticking with me.  I appreciate everyone's
>> comments.  I hope that someone with find this thread useful in the future.
>>
>>
> Just to clarify with Kelly about what "complicated" stands for :-)
>
> IMHO you are going to get what you want in two steps:
> killall pulseaudio && aptitude install jackd qjackctl
>
> regards
>
> -r
>
> --
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> all'istinto di ribellione, alla rivolta non isterilita in progetti, alla
> protesta violenta e viscerale.*
>

Thanks for posting.  The were 2 reasons that I went with PA, neither of
which were because I thought installing jackd might be complicated.  The
first reason was because PA was installed by default.  Unless I have a
particularly good reason (like nVidia d

Re: Bug in both update manager and in apt-get

[hvw59601]

pierpaolo pilla wrote:

Hi

I have this bug when trying to install security updates (in update
manager), and when trying to install mon-apache-server (with
apt-get-install):
"
Error retrieving bug reports from the server with the following error
message:
 W: HTTPClient::KeepAliveDisconnected
It could be because your network is down, or because of broken proxy
servers, or the BTS server itself is down. Check network configuration
and try again
"



I get that more or less all the time in Sid. But when I then repeat the 
apt-get install command it goes ahead and does it.


I only get that with apt-listbugs.

Hugo


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Re: Network-manager woes (wifi)

[Hans-J. Ullrich]

Hello! 

I have a selfmade working network connection now for many, many years. The 
files /etc/network/onterfaces and /etc/resolv.conf are manually edited by me.

In earlier times resolv.conf was a link to somewhere, but I forgot, to where. 
It is now a static file. 

But now I want to test, how Networkmanager is working. So, what is the best 
debian way to get a fresh file "interfaces". Which entries are containing in 
interfaces as default? I am using eth0 and wlan0 at the moment.

I have Networkmanager already installed, but changed nothing in its config. 

If Networkmanager will fail, of course I can restore resolv.conf and 
interfaces at every time.

Maybe someone already has unconfigured files and might send them to me or just 
take a look.

Thank you very much!

Best

Hans


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Re: How do I suppress dpms mode setting messages on text console?

[Camaleón]

On Sun, 04 Mar 2012 12:16:09 -0500, Stephen Powell wrote:

> I am using Debian wheezy i386 with an Nvidia video card and the default
> nouveau driver.  Everytime I switch back and forth between the X console
> (tty7) and a text console (such as tty1), tty1 gets spammed with
> messages like this:
> 
> [drm] nouveau :01:00.0: Setting dpms mode 3 on vga encoder (output> 0) 
> [drm] nouveau :01:00.0: Setting dpms mode 0 on vga encoder (output 0) 
> [drm] nouveau :01:00.0: Output VGA-1 is running on CRTC 0 using output A

(...)

> I tried searching the internet, but I didn't find anything useful.  Is
> there a way to suppress these messages without suppressing true error
> messages? Maybe there's a module option that I can set in
> /etc/modprobe.d/local.conf, or something along those lines?  Any help
> will be appreciated.

A similar concern was raised on this thread of Gentoo forums:

nouveau drm mode switch messages
http://forums-web1.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-863335-start-0.html

Maybe you can find something of interest there :-?

Greetings,

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How do I suppress dpms mode setting messages on text console?

[Stephen Powell]

I am using Debian wheezy i386 with an Nvidia video card and the default
nouveau driver.  Everytime I switch back and forth between the X console
(tty7) and a text console (such as tty1), tty1 gets spammed with messages
like this:

[drm] nouveau :01:00.0: Setting dpms mode 3 on vga encoder (output 0)
[drm] nouveau :01:00.0: Setting dpms mode 0 on vga encoder (output 0)
[drm] nouveau :01:00.0: Output VGA-1 is running on CRTC 0 using output A

I assume that mode 3 is graphics mode (X server) and mode 0 is text mode
(frame buffer simulated text console).

Similar messages occur if I stay in a text console long enough for the
power management feature to turn off the display and then I re-activate the
display again (such as by pressing the Shift key by itself).  Apparently,
when power management kicks in, I get dmps mode 1; and when I re-activate
the console it switches back to dpms mode 0.  I do not get these results
on another computer which uses the Nvidia proprietary driver (nvidia),
nor did I get such results using this computer back when I used
the older free nvidia driver (nv), which has since been dropped from the
distribution.

I consider these messages to be noise messages and I wish to suppress them.
I don't mind if they are written to the kernel log, but I don't ever want to
see them written to the console itself (except maybe during boot).

I tried searching the internet, but I didn't find anything useful.  Is there
a way to suppress these messages without suppressing true error messages?
Maybe there's a module option that I can set in /etc/modprobe.d/local.conf,
or something along those lines?  Any help will be appreciated.

-- 
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Re: Can't purge wxdesigneru installed partially.

[Claudius Hubig]

Hello Csanyi,

Csanyi Pal  wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I downloaded wxdesigneru from here:
> http://www.wxdesigner-software.de/wxdesigneru_2.20-2_amd64.deb
> 
> and tried to install it but failed.
> 
> Now I'm trying to purge this debian package with command:
> 
> sudo dpkg -P wxdesigneru
> (Reading database ... 367548 files and directories currently installed.)
> Removing wxdesigneru ...
> xdg-desktop-menu: No writable system menu directory found.
> dpkg: error processing wxdesigneru (--purge):
>  subprocess installed pre-removal script returned error exit status 3
> xdg-desktop-menu: No writable system menu directory found.
> dpkg: error while cleaning up:
>  subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 3
> Errors were encountered while processing:
>  wxdesigneru

The problem is the prerm script of this package, which does some
apparently strange stuff with a xdg provided by the package([1]). You
might want to try removing the file

/var/lib/dpkg/wxdesigneru.prerm

but I don’t know for sure if this will work. Afterwards, try again
with dpkg -P.

You might have to manually clean up some .desktop files or icons
afterwards, try:

find /usr /etc /home /var -name '*wxDesigner*'

Best regards,

Claudius

[1] Contents of debian/prerm:
->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->
#!/bin/bash
RPM_INSTALL_PREFIX=
export RPM_INSTALL_PREFIX
/opt/wxDesigner/xdg-icon-resource uninstall --novendor --size 24 
/opt/wxDesigner/wxDesigner.png application-wxDesigner
/opt/wxDesigner/xdg-mime uninstall --novendor /opt/wxDesigner/wxDesigner_xdg.xml
/opt/wxDesigner/xdg-desktop-menu uninstall --novendor 
/opt/wxDesigner/wxDesigner.desktop
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Re: Bug in both update manager and in apt-get

[Selim T. Erdogan]

pierpaolo pilla,  4.03.2012:
> Hi
> 
> I have this bug when trying to install security updates (in update
> manager), and when trying to install mon-apache-server (with
> apt-get-install):
> "
> Error retrieving bug reports from the server with the following error
> message:
>  W: HTTPClient::KeepAliveDisconnected
> It could be because your network is down, or because of broken proxy
> servers, or the BTS server itself is down. Check network configuration
> and try again
> "

Sounds like it can't access the bug reports for the packages to be 
installed.  I run sid and have apt-listbugs installed too, to check for 
any important bugs before I upgrade.  When it can't access the list of 
bugs, it still gives me the chance to continue the installation.  Is it 
at least giving you that chance?


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Re: Can't purge wxdesigneru installed partially.

[Csanyi Pal]

Csanyi Pal  writes:

> Hi,
>
> I downloaded wxdesigneru from here:
> http://www.wxdesigner-software.de/wxdesigneru_2.20-2_amd64.deb
>
> and tried to install it but failed.
>
> Now I'm trying to purge this debian package with command:
>
> sudo dpkg -P wxdesigneru
> (Reading database ... 367548 files and directories currently installed.)
> Removing wxdesigneru ...
> xdg-desktop-menu: No writable system menu directory found.
> dpkg: error processing wxdesigneru (--purge):
>  subprocess installed pre-removal script returned error exit status 3
> xdg-desktop-menu: No writable system menu directory found.
> dpkg: error while cleaning up:
>  subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 3
> Errors were encountered while processing:
>  wxdesigneru

> What can I do to solve this problem?

I find the solution here:
http://www.piprime.fr/1480/manually-remove-broken-package-debian-ubuntu/

mv /var/lib/dpkg/info/PACKAGE.* /tmp/
dpkg --remove --force-remove-reinstreq PACKAGE

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Re: Problem with NetworkManager - WAS: Re: Help needed to repair a damaged dual boot Debian System

[Selim T. Erdogan]

Bernard,  4.03.2012:
> Selim T. Erdogan wrote:
> >Andrei POPESCU,  3.03.2012:
> >>On Sb, 03 mar 12, 20:59:30, Bernard wrote:
> >>>Thanks in advance for your help with the 'NetworkManager' or any
> >>>other convenient tool that would operate on Squeeze so as to easily
> >>>turn an Internet connexion ON and OFF
> >>Make sure you have NO definition for eth0 in
> >>/etc/network/interfaces and that you have:
> >>
> >>[ifupdown]
> >>managed=false
> >>
> >>in /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf
> >>
> >>If it still doesn't work after a restart[1] please attach both files.
> >>
> >>[1] not sure why, but in some cases new configurations did not
> >>work properly until a full restart
> >
> >Or you can keep /etc/network/interfaces as you have it now and edit
> >/etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf to have
> >
> >[main]
> >plugins=ifupdown,keyfile
> >
> >[ifupdown]
> >managed=true
> >
> >(And you have to restart Network Manager.)
> >
> >
> I just tested both ways, to no avail.
> 
> At first, I must say that my system did not have any
> 
> NetworkManager.conf file in /etc/NetworkManager/
> 
> The only NetworkManager.conf file that could be found on this system was in
> 
> /etc/dbus-1/system.d/

I have that file too but it's not related to what we're trying to do.

> I can see the same thing on this other machine still on Lenny, where
> I am writing this from: no  /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf
> file either.
> 
> the man page for NetworkManager does not mention any such conf file.
> I did not dare modifying /etc/dbus-1/system.d/NetworkManager.conf
> 
> But I tested creating an /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf,
> with only
> 
> 
> 
> [main]
> plugins=ifupdown,keyfile
> 
> [ifupdown]
> managed=false
> **

I wrote managed=true in my message above.  (Andrei's message had false.)

> As a first trial, I had just written:
> 
> ***
> [ifupdown]
> managed=false
> *
> 
> in it. But maybe I should have modified permissions and owner ?  Owner was 
> root and perms: -rw-r--r--

My permissions and the owner are the same as yours.

> Besides, my /etc/network/interfaces file did not contain any definition for 
> eth0. Still, I tested removing any mention of eth0, to no avail.

My /e/n/i file has eth0.  That's why we are changing NetworkManager.conf,
to get it to cooperate with /e/n/i.  

If you don't want to define eth0 in /e/n/i, then you can try Andrei's 
suggestion.  (If you do, you might have to set specifics of your wired 
interface using the NetworkManager applet.)  However, your /e/n/i file 
below defines eth0!

> Below is my  'etc/network/interfaces' file :
> 
> *
> 
> # This file describes the network interfaces available on your system
> # and how to activate them. For more information, see interfaces(5).
> 
> # The loopback network interface
> auto lo
> iface lo inet loopback
> 
> # The primary network interface
> allow-hotplug eth0
> iface eth0 inet dhcp
> 
> *

That last line defines eth0.


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[OT] sorry, bad url reference

[Chris Bannister]

On Mon, Mar 05, 2012 at 04:30:13AM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote:
> Have a look at:
> http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20101017091521AAqPonZ

oops, probably not the best reference since some of the posts use bad
English.

> Basically[1], the answer is:
> No, grammar is an uncountable noun and, therefore, cannot become a
> plural.

> [1] http://thescreamonline.com/essays/essays08-01/basically.html

That URL produces "406 Not Acceptable". Not sure why I included that
link without checking it first. :(

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Re: sound issues

[Raffaele Morelli]

2012/3/4 Darren Crotchett 

> I am going to clearly remark as much as possible for the benefit of anyone
> who may find this page later.  See my inline replies/comments.
>
> On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Kelly Clowers wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 05:53, Darren Crotchett 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Can you elaborate on what you mean by "it just needs to be setup
>> correctly"?
>> > I'm going to be working on this issue today.  Before I install the
>> > applications that Raffaele recommended, I want to give Pulseaudio one
>> more
>> > chance because I would rather figure out the problem than to circumvent
>> it.
>> > OTOH, I don't want to fight a losing battle either.
>>
>> So, I originally setup mine based on the PA wiki's "Perfect Setup".
>> It is rather
>> extensive and a lot of the stuff in there is from a time when there
>> was less support
>> for PA.
>>
>> Here are the essentials:
>> Edit /etc/asound.conf (for all users) or ~/.asoundrc (per-user)
>> I have only these two entries in mine:
>>
>
> Neither of these files existed.  I didn't care about a per-user setting,
> so I just created an /etc/asound.conf and added the recommended lines below.
>
>
>>
>> pcm.!default {
>>type pulse
>> }
>> ctl.!default {
>>type pulse
>> }
>>
>>
>> Make sure you are in the groups "audio", "pulse-access" and "pulse-rt"
>>
>
> I used vigr and vigr -s to edit the groups.  My user was already in
> "audio". I added it to "pulse-access" group.  And, I did not have a
> pulse-rt group.  I did not create the group.
>
>
>>
>> Make sure that Pulse is being run automatically at startup (it should be,
>> I just remember when it was not, and I had to set it up myself).
>>
>
> It was already starting automatically with /etc/init.d/pulseaudio
>
>
>>
>> ---
>>
>> The setting of the alsa default to pulse should make most things work,
>> but personally I set a number of things to PA explicitly. At least some
>> of these
>> used to be required (they did not automatically use pulse and avoided the
>> alsa default or similar). Nowadays that may not be the case, I don't know.
>> Also they may have a PA driver that is different from the alsa driver, and
>> may work better than redirected alsa.
>>
>> in ~/.mplayer/config: ao = pulse
>>
>> in ~/.xine/config: audio.driver:pulseaudio
>>
>> in ~/.vlcrc or ~/.config/vlc/vlcrc: aout=pulse
>>
>> in /etc/libao.conf: default_driver=pulse
>>
>>
> I did not have the mplayer or xine config files above files.  So, I
> created them and add the recommended lines.  I had the ~/.config/vlc/vlcrc.
>  The aout directive was present, but was commented out and had no value.
>  So, I set it.  I changed the /etc/libao.conf from default_driver=alsa to
> default_driver=pulse.
>
>
>
>
>
>> for gstreamer:
>> gconftool-2 -t string --set /system/gstreamer/0.10/default/audiosink
>> pulsesink
>> gconftool-2 -t string --set /system/gstreamer/0.10/default/audiosrc
>> pulsesrc
>> gconftool-2 -t string --set
>> /system/gstreamer/0.10/default/musicaudiosink pulsesink
>> gconftool-2 -t string --set
>> /system/gstreamer/0.10/default/chataudiosink pulsesink
>>
>
> I ran the gconftool-2 commands.
>
>
>>
>> KDE's Phonon uses vlc, mplayer or gstreamer, so the above should cover
>> that as well
>>
>> SDL (used for some games) can be set to explicitly use PA with:
>> export SDL_AUDIODRIVER=pulse
>> (needs to be done in a startup script like ~/.bashrc to be permanent)
>>
>
> I added the export to the .bashrc.  I also executed it at the command line
> so I didn't have to log out and back in.
>
> I restarted pulseaudio with: /etc/init.d/pulseaudio restart
>
> This did not seem to work.  So, I rebooted.  This seems to work.  I was
> able to play a movie with sound on VLC, Minecraft and Skype all at once
> without breaking anything.
>
>
>>
>> As far as I remember that is about it. As I said, setting those explicitly
>> may not be needed anymore, I just don't know.
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Kelly Clowers
>>
>>
>>
> Thank you so much for sticking with me.  I appreciate everyone's comments.
>  I hope that someone with find this thread useful in the future.
>
>
Just to clarify with Kelly about what "complicated" stands for :-)

IMHO you are going to get what you want in two steps:
killall pulseaudio && aptitude install jackd qjackctl

regards
-r

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bash-completion problem

[Hans-J. Ullrich]

Hi list, 

does anyone know, how to check or reinitialise bash-completition?

The problem:

mkisofs is a link to genisoimage, but the command mkisofs is not known. 

I checked  

ullhan63@protheus2: ls -la /usr/share/bash-completion/completions/ | grep iso
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  2880 Jan 11 14:42 genisoimage
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   917 Jan 11 14:42 growisofs
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root11 Jan 11 14:42 mkisofs -> genisoimage

but everything seems ok. The problem appears only on my 32-bit EEPC, which got 
(as far as I could see) an identical configuration like my working 64-bit-
machine.

Any other hints?

Regards

Hans


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Re: OT: Copying a URL from a text browser (was: Re: text browsers)

[Chris Bannister]

On Sun, Mar 04, 2012 at 07:51:17AM -0500, Randy Kramer wrote:
> The only problem is the aggravating yahoo URLs that are very long--I just 
> checked one that is 537 characters long.  So, far, with middle mouse button 
> copying, I am not able to copy that from the one line display at the bottom 
> of the screen.  (I suspect it can't be done.)

Press the '=' key. 

Amongst some other (possibly useful) info is:
Under 'Link that you currently have selected'
Linkname: 
URL: 

Now you can easily copy just the text of the URL one line at a time.

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Can't purge wxdesigneru installed partially.

[Csanyi Pal]

Hi,

I downloaded wxdesigneru from here:
http://www.wxdesigner-software.de/wxdesigneru_2.20-2_amd64.deb

and tried to install it but failed.

Now I'm trying to purge this debian package with command:

sudo dpkg -P wxdesigneru
(Reading database ... 367548 files and directories currently installed.)
Removing wxdesigneru ...
xdg-desktop-menu: No writable system menu directory found.
dpkg: error processing wxdesigneru (--purge):
 subprocess installed pre-removal script returned error exit status 3
xdg-desktop-menu: No writable system menu directory found.
dpkg: error while cleaning up:
 subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 3
Errors were encountered while processing:
 wxdesigneru


What can I do to solve this problem?

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[OT] grammar v. grammars. was:Re: rsync

[Lisi]

On Sunday 04 March 2012 13:19:40 Randy Kramer wrote:
> On Sunday 04 March 2012 06:53:37 am Chris Bannister wrote:
> > > Thank you
> > > (I read "The Grammar of English Grammars" by Goold Brown. finished 35
> > > of 11294 in one month. Hope can finish one day).
> >
> > Just be aware, the Americans have their own version of English.
>
> I would have said just the opposite--the English have their own version of
> English.  ;-)  Oh, but I guess they did get there first. ;-)
>
> And then I see the .nz on your address, I know the Australians have their
> own version of English, I'll bet the New Zealanders do, also.
>
> > "The Grammar of English Grammars" is the wrong book to be reading,
> > i.e., there is no such word as "Grammars"
>
> Then what is the plural of grammar?  There certainly seems to be a need /
> use for the plural--I've used "grammars" since around 1968 (and maybe
> earlier) when we talked about grammars for computer languages in class (as
> in "context free grammars").
>
> I tried looking at Merriam Webster, and didn't see "grammars" (nor a
> plural) specifically listed--I don't know if that means there is no plural
> or that, since nothing different is specified, the standard addition of "s"
> does the job?  (Note, I can see only the abridged version of the Merriam
> Webster dictionary.)
>
> Not that I consider Wikipedia (the encyclopedia) an authority on language
> usage, but they use "grammars" in their article on grammar.
>
> Wiktionary lists grammars: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/grammars

And Wikipedia and Wiktionary are predominantly American.  You only have to 
look at the name "Wikipedia"!  (Which makes me cringe slightly every time I 
have to type it!)

There is, as Chris says, no plural in English English of grammar.  It is a 
collective abstract noun, and has no plural.

In American, it would appear that it has a plural!

One has to be careful when saying that English English came before American.  
One has to be careful layering language.  The old form of the modern French 
word veau (calf, veal) was veal.  Which still exists in that form in English, 
although it has moved on in French.  So English, the "newer" (to French) 
language has the older form of that word.

The English English that is the forerunner of American English, indeed came 
before it, but that English is also the forerunner of modern English English. 
And there are many instances of forms which endure in American being older 
than the term now used in England.  The most obvious example is Fall, which 
we now call Autumn, but used to be called Fall.  That, along with other terms 
which had fallen into desuetude this side of the pond, has started to migrate 
back.

Lisi


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Re: rsync

[Chris Bannister]

On Sun, Mar 04, 2012 at 08:19:40AM -0500, Randy Kramer wrote:
> On Sunday 04 March 2012 06:53:37 am Chris Bannister wrote:
> > > Thank you
> > > (I read "The Grammar of English Grammars" by Goold Brown. finished 35
> > > of 11294 in one month. Hope can finish one day).
> >
> > Just be aware, the Americans have their own version of English.
> 
> I would have said just the opposite--the English have their own version of 
> English.  ;-)  Oh, but I guess they did get there first. ;-)  

Why try and confuse Lina? 

> And then I see the .nz on your address, I know the Australians have their own 
> version of English, I'll bet the New Zealanders do, also.

We still use the basic English words, (i.e. boot instead of trunk, Mum
instead of Mom, etc. etc. etc) although that seems to be changing as
more Americanisms creep into usage. For example, I now notice that first
year University students are now referred to as "freshers" in some
literature.

> > "The Grammar of English Grammars" is the wrong book to be reading,
> > i.e., there is no such word as "Grammars"
> 
> Then what is the plural of grammar?  There certainly seems to be a need / use 

There isn't one. What is the plural of syntax? What is the plural of
sheep?

Have a look at:
http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20101017091521AAqPonZ

Basically[1], the answer is:
No, grammar is an uncountable noun and, therefore, cannot become a
plural.

[1] http://thescreamonline.com/essays/essays08-01/basically.html

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Re: OT: Copying a URL from a text browser (was: Re: text browsers)

[Lisi]

On Sunday 04 March 2012 12:51:17 Randy Kramer wrote:
> The only problem is the aggravating yahoo URLs that are very long--I just
> checked one that is 537 characters long.  So, far, with middle mouse button
> copying, I am not able to copy that from the one line display at the bottom
> of the screen.  (I suspect it can't be done.)

I find that I can do it by just continuing to run the mouse over the link with 
the left button depressed, until it comes to a halt against the barrier of 
the end of the URL.

Lisi


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how to figure out what is doing power management on my fresh sid laptop

[Mitchell Laks]

Hi,
I have a fresh install of debian rapidly upgraded to sid on a lenovo x220.
I noticed it was not doing proper power management and battery was rapidly 
going to zero.
I have tried googling 
and looked at such places as wiki.debian.org/Suspend
but I see no design documents for the power management.
I see the statement

"This page gathers bits of information about getting software suspend to work 
in Debian. 
Because the core system components change rapidly among Debian versions, 
software suspend 
works differently on different versions of Debians. 
This page is divided according to Debian versions from new to old."

I have pm-utils installed which nicely suspends when I invoke  pm-suspend.

However if I leave the laptop alone it will blank the screen after a period of 
time
but I dont know what has happened - is is just a screen blanking but the full 
system
is still active  or has it actually suspended?
How to find out what happened?
I have no idea what is going on.

Moreover on my  older ibook g4 running sid the laptop takes care of all issues 
by itself. It really does nicely suspend
and when I hit a key I see messages from the kernel about the modules being 
reloaded etc. What a pleasure. I am not sure 
what is going on there - suspect it has to do with pbbuttonsd or something. 
Bless the author of that.

What do I do to see what is happening? What is the right way to configure it so 
that it will work?
Does the team responsible for debian power management such as suspend and 
hibernate  have a design document or a
web site or mailing list that I can read to find out about how things work now 
that hal is deprecated.

I figure I must use some kind of combination of 
acpid and pm-utils and cpufreqd and uswsusp.

I see a gentoo power management guide.
I wish I could tell what is going on, what is already configured and what to 
fix to make my system
use power proportionaly to my needs and sleep when I am reading a book.

Note that I run sid to keep up  with the latest and am more than willing to 
tinker. I just wish I had more
information to use to figure  out what is happening.

Thanks
Mitchell Laks


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Re: Networking problem on Shuttle XS35GTV2

[Ramon Hofer]

On Wed, 29 Feb 2012 12:32:44 +, Camaleón wrote:

> On Tue, 28 Feb 2012 20:32:07 +, Ramon Hofer wrote:
> 
>> On Tue, 28 Feb 2012 16:44:05 +, Camaleón wrote:
> 
>>> Mmm, if your problem is a missing kernel module (jme.ko), the file is
>>> located here:
>>> 
>>> /lib/modules/2.6.32-5-686/kernel/drivers/net/jme.ko
>>> 
>>> Which is available in the first of the CD sets and thus you should
>>> also have it on your system so I wonder what can be wrong here.
>> 
>> I'm wondering too!
>> 
>> It's really strange because I was using OpenELEC for some time and
>> probably with an update it stopped working.
>> 
>> Also I have installed Debian Squeeze before on this box and the network
>> was working.
>> 
>> With Windows it's still working so the hardware should be ok...
> 
> Check if the module is already loaded or just force a reload ("modprobe
> jme") and check the output.

Finally it works :-D

I downloaded the jmicron driver to my laptop which runs the same kernel 
as the Shuttle box, compiled it and copied the jme.ko file to 
/lib/modules/2.6.32-5-686/kernel/drivers/net/jme.ko

Thanks to all for your help :-)


Best regards
Ramon


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Re: Bug in both update manager and in apt-get

[Camaleón]

On Sun, 04 Mar 2012 10:48:14 -0300, pierpaolo pilla wrote:

> I have this bug when trying to install security updates (in update
> manager), and when trying to install mon-apache-server (with
> apt-get-install):
> "
> Error retrieving bug reports from the server with the following error
> message:
>  W: HTTPClient::KeepAliveDisconnected
> It could be because your network is down, or because of broken proxy
> servers, or the BTS server itself is down. Check network configuration
> and try again
> "
> 
> This problem is recent, didn't have it until few days ago...

(...)

To me looks like a transient error on the client side -that's you ;-)- 
and some sort of proxy-cache your ISP (or you) is using in between.

I would retry later to check if the error is already gone.

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Bug in both update manager and in apt-get

[pierpaolo pilla]

Hi

I have this bug when trying to install security updates (in update
manager), and when trying to install mon-apache-server (with
apt-get-install):
"
Error retrieving bug reports from the server with the following error
message:
 W: HTTPClient::KeepAliveDisconnected
It could be because your network is down, or because of broken proxy
servers, or the BTS server itself is down. Check network configuration
and try again
"

This problem is recent, didn't have it until few days ago...

This is happening in my squeeze install on macbook pro 3.1.

The debian bug reporting web page recommends to use this mailing list to
determine which package I should report the bug to...

Thanks in advance!

Pier


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RUTE (was Re: wireless is disabled)

[Chris Bannister]

[Please, trim your posts!]

On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 09:32:45PM +0800, lina wrote:
> I have downloaded the RUTE, but seems it's html version (have not
> found the pdf version),

http://www.icon.co.za/~psheer/rute.pdf.bz2

> I started the downloaded html RUTE by launching $ iceweasel rute.html

Why not use wget? 
e.g. wget "http://www.icon.co.za/~psheer/rute.pdf.bz2";

or

wget "http://rute.2038bug.com/rute.html.tar.bz2";

> Just installed. not so sure how to use it
> 
> doc-linux-html - Linux HOWTOs and FAQs in HTML format
> doc-linux-nonfree-html - Linux HOWTOs in HTML format (non-free)
> doc-linux-nonfree-text - Linux HOWTOs in ASCII format (non-free)

To see what files a package installs:

dpkg -L doc-linux-nonfree-html

Also *always* read the README.Debian etc files under:
/usr/share/doc/

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Re: sound issues

[Tony van der Hoff]

On 04/03/12 04:56, Scott Ferguson wrote:

On 04/03/12 14:18, Darren Crotchett wrote:






Thank you so much for sticking with me.  I appreciate everyone's
comments.  I hope that someone with find this thread useful in the future.




Not only in the future :)
I've been following this thread, without contributing, I'm afraid, but 
it's sorted out my sound problems.


Thanks all!

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Re: Problem with NetworkManager - WAS: Re: Help needed to repair a damaged dual boot Debian System

[Bernard]

Selim T. Erdogan wrote:

Andrei POPESCU,  3.03.2012:
  

On Sb, 03 mar 12, 20:59:30, Bernard wrote:


Thanks in advance for your help with the 'NetworkManager' or any
other convenient tool that would operate on Squeeze so as to easily
turn an Internet connexion ON and OFF
  
Make sure you have NO definition for eth0 in /etc/network/interfaces and 
that you have:


[ifupdown]
managed=false

in /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf

If it still doesn't work after a restart[1] please attach both files.

[1] not sure why, but in some cases new configurations did not work 
properly until a full restart



Or you can keep /etc/network/interfaces as you have it now and edit
/etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf to have

[main]
plugins=ifupdown,keyfile

[ifupdown]
managed=true

(And you have to restart Network Manager.)


  

I just tested both ways, to no avail.

At first, I must say that my system did not have any

NetworkManager.conf file in /etc/NetworkManager/

The only NetworkManager.conf file that could be found on this system was in

/etc/dbus-1/system.d/

I can see the same thing on this other machine still on Lenny, where I am writing this from: no  
/etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf file either.


the man page for NetworkManager does not mention any such conf file. I did not dare modifying 
/etc/dbus-1/system.d/NetworkManager.conf


But I tested creating an /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf, with only 




[main]
plugins=ifupdown,keyfile

[ifupdown]
managed=false
**


As a first trial, I had just written:

***
[ifupdown]
managed=false
*

in it. But maybe I should have modified permissions and owner ?  Owner was root 
and perms: -rw-r--r--

Besides, my /etc/network/interfaces file did not contain any definition for 
eth0. Still, I tested removing any mention of eth0, to no avail.

Below is my  'etc/network/interfaces' file :

*

# This file describes the network interfaces available on your system
# and how to activate them. For more information, see interfaces(5).

# The loopback network interface
auto lo
iface lo inet loopback

# The primary network interface
allow-hotplug eth0
iface eth0 inet dhcp

* 



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[OT] Re: rsync

[lina]

On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 7:53 PM, Chris Bannister
 wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 03, 2012 at 12:44:31AM +0800, lina wrote:
>> On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 11:49 PM, Kelly Clowers  
>> wrote:
>> > I hope you don't mind some English correction...
>> > You should say something like "my confusion is why it stopped copying the 
>> > rest"
>>
>> Thank you
>> (I read "The Grammar of English Grammars" by Goold Brown. finished 35
>> of 11294 in one month. Hope can finish one day).
>
> Just be aware, the Americans have their own version of English.
>
> "The Grammar of English Grammars" is the wrong book to be reading,
> i.e., there is no such word as "Grammars"

Ha ... you might not notice 35/11294.

I barely have one single sense of interest in Grammar learning.
I know I am very bad in language (also history, geography), even
native language, always failed in high school.

I read it just cause it's the one on top of my e-bookshelf. And read
it just to comfort some unconsciously self-blaming.

some book just for collections, not for read (to me).

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Re: rsync

[Randy Kramer]

On Sunday 04 March 2012 06:53:37 am Chris Bannister wrote:
> > Thank you
> > (I read "The Grammar of English Grammars" by Goold Brown. finished 35
> > of 11294 in one month. Hope can finish one day).
>
> Just be aware, the Americans have their own version of English.

I would have said just the opposite--the English have their own version of 
English.  ;-)  Oh, but I guess they did get there first. ;-)  

And then I see the .nz on your address, I know the Australians have their own 
version of English, I'll bet the New Zealanders do, also.

> "The Grammar of English Grammars" is the wrong book to be reading,
> i.e., there is no such word as "Grammars"

Then what is the plural of grammar?  There certainly seems to be a need / use 
for the plural--I've used "grammars" since around 1968 (and maybe earlier) 
when we talked about grammars for computer languages in class (as in "context 
free grammars").

I tried looking at Merriam Webster, and didn't see "grammars" (nor a plural) 
specifically listed--I don't know if that means there is no plural or that, 
since nothing different is specified, the standard addition of "s" does the 
job?  (Note, I can see only the abridged version of the Merriam Webster 
dictionary.)

Not that I consider Wikipedia (the encyclopedia) an authority on language 
usage, but they use "grammars" in their article on grammar.

Wiktionary lists grammars: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/grammars

Randy Kramer




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Re: OT: Copying a URL from a text browser (was: Re: text browsers)

[Randy Kramer]

Chris,

Thanks very much!  Another helpful idea.  One problem is noted below...

On Sunday 04 March 2012 05:45:22 am Chris Bannister wrote:
> Start lynx, press 'o'
> The options menu will appear.
> Press the 'down arrow' until you get to the 'User mode' option just
> under 'General Preferences'. (The novice option is probably displayed.)
> Press the 'Return key' and select the 'Advanced' option using the 'down
> arrow' key.
> Press 'Return' (Advanced should be displayed, instead of novice.)
>
> Now press the 'up arrow' until you get to the 'Save options to disk' check
> box. Press 'Return' (An 'X' will appear) then press the 'up arrow' until
> 'Accept Changes' is highlighted.
> Press 'Return'.
>
> You should now see the URL for a link displayed along the bottom of the
> screen.

The only problem is the aggravating yahoo URLs that are very long--I just 
checked one that is 537 characters long.  So, far, with middle mouse button 
copying, I am not able to copy that from the one line display at the bottom 
of the screen.  (I suspect it can't be done.)

Randy Kramer


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Re: [OT] munin

[Brad Alexander]

On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 3:48 AM, Wolfgang Karall
 wrote:
> Hello,
>
> why's this OT? :)

Just because there are certain people on the list who are more
draconian about what is on and off topic. To them, there is a
difference between apps running *on* Debian and Debian itself. I
figured I'd play it safe. :)

> On Sat, Mar 03, 2012 at 11:01:07PM -0500, Brad Alexander wrote:
>> this is on both the working and non-working nodes. My network is not
>> running ipv6. In fact, net-pf-10 is commented out on all the hosts
>> that I have checked.
>
> IIRC, to actually disable IPv6 you need to actually uncomment the line,
> replacing the "ipv6" with "off", like
>
> alias net-pf-10 off

Ah. I figured if the net-pf-10 was commented out, it was taken out of play.

>> Can anyone tell me why these 5 nodes will not connect to the server
>> and refuses connections to localhost and ::1?
>
> What does
>
> grep ^allow /etc/munin/munin-node.conf
>
> produce on the machines?

The only one not commented out is

  allow ^192\.168\.4\.63$

Where 192.168.4.63 is the munin server.

Note that with the exception of the hostname in the host_name
directive, the config file is identical on all nodes, working and
non-working. Puppet is doing a variable substitution for the hostname
and pushing the file out to all nodes. The treatment is identical
everywhere, which is what is confusing me why these 5 don't work.

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> Cheers
> Wolfgang
>
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Re: bzr-hg gone missing from unstable?

[Camaleón]

On Thu, 01 Mar 2012 22:08:27 -0500, Max Hyre wrote:

> On 03/01/12 17:18, Brian wrote:
>> http://packages.qa.debian.org/b/bzr-hg.html
> 
> Thanks.  It's obvious I didn't read the bug reports closely
> enough.  I saw that
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=659888 was resolved,
> and didn't look inside to see that the resolution was removal.  :-/

It seems to be still available under "experimental" and the snapshot 
archive but I wouldn't think doing nothing serious with it given its 
current state.

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Re: rsync

[Chris Bannister]

On Sat, Mar 03, 2012 at 12:44:31AM +0800, lina wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 11:49 PM, Kelly Clowers  
> wrote:
> > I hope you don't mind some English correction...
> > You should say something like "my confusion is why it stopped copying the 
> > rest"
> 
> Thank you
> (I read "The Grammar of English Grammars" by Goold Brown. finished 35
> of 11294 in one month. Hope can finish one day).

Just be aware, the Americans have their own version of English.

"The Grammar of English Grammars" is the wrong book to be reading,
i.e., there is no such word as "Grammars"

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Re: Xephir Xserver

[Camaleón]

On Sun, 04 Mar 2012 12:11:14 +0100, antispammbox-debian wrote:

> How do explain me wath is Xephir Xserver, and as use.

Mmm...

http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/tree/hw/kdrive/ephyr/README

And more specifically, the first and second of the three paragraphs: 
"What is it" and "How to use" :-)

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Re: [Feedback needed] Setting the right size for /tmp

[Hans-J. Ullrich]

 
> > I stop using huge tmpfs for tmp since it gains nothing for me.
> 
> Okay, so no more worries about this. I will keep the old-good default for
> "/tmp" then.
> 
> Greetings,

I also got in problems, when k3b asked me for a temporary place for a 
temporary ISO. I choose /tmp (good choice for normal users!), but tmpfs 
(mounted to /tmp) just gave me about 600MB, too less for burning a DVD. 

So I removed tmpfs and stayed with good old /tmp on my / device, which gives 
me now the space I need.

So tmpfs still causes problems, no one thought of.

Hans


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Xephir Xserver

[antispammbox-debian]

Hi all

How do explain me wath is Xephir Xserver, and as use.

Thanks


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Re: [Feedback needed] Setting the right size for /tmp

[Camaleón]

On Sun, 04 Mar 2012 18:12:09 +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I join too late but ...  (I do not use tmpfs for /tmp)

Time does not matter when good feedback comes to place :-)

> On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 04:13:05PM +, Camaleón wrote:
>> On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 18:07:43 +, Camaleón wrote:
>> 
>> > I'm running an updated wheezy and today faced with this little
>> > problematic.
>> 
>> (...)
>> 
>> > Okay, so /tmp is full. Fine. I know how to solve it but I can foresee
>> > more situations like this in the future so some questions arise. As
>> > the current tmpfs default settings for /tmp seem a bit "unrealistic"
>> > (just % 20 of the RAM?) for even doing common tasks:
> 
> This is just the default value for RAMTMP=yes in the /etc/default/rcS
> file. You could have much bigger than RAM size as long as you have big
> enough swap to support it.  You can do so via /etc/fstab. I once had
> 10GB tmpfs with 4GB RAM so I could have DVD image on /tmp on tmpfs.  So
> 20% of RAM is not good enough reason to reject tmpfs :-)

(...)

True, but is still a bad "default" setting, IMO. Neither good for a 
system with 132 GiB of ram nor for another with 512 MiB ;-)

Besides, I can give tmpfs a chance (I can see the benefits of using it) 
but how could I mimic my current configuration with it? I mean, I don't 
like to have to worry for this, so now my "/tmp" -which resides at the 
"/" partition- can make use of whatever available space is left on the 
disk.

How could I get this setting (that is, "use as much space as there is and 
you need") with tmpfs? And will this be desirable or I'm going to have 
additional gotchas? :-)
 
>> Jerome, Bob, Dom... thank you all for your input :-)
>> 
>> After carefully reading your suggestions I have decided to disable
>> tpmfs for /tmp and use the old method of having /tmp inside a
>> partition.
> 
> Good.  As long as you have lots of RAM, most data written to disk stays
> on RAM anyway as cached data if it is very short lived data.  So this
> does not slow system.
> 
> But that may cause concern for disk wareout if you are using SSD.

Having as little as 2 GiB of ram in this system I can guess tmpfs will help 
to speed up things. Yup, I see what can be the benefits of using it... when/
if sanely tweaked.

(...)

>> So, in the end I have set "RAMTMP=no" option at "/etc/default/rcS".
> 
> But if you are on laptop with SSD and lots of memory, you may optimize
> diskware by slowing down on disk cache flushing from memory.
> 
>  
> http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch09.en.html#_optimization_of_solid_state_drive

Useful and understandable, but not my case. I'm still a bit reluctant in
using SSD disks with the current technology and design.
 
> Anyway, even for mormal usage, use of noatime in mount option seems to
> be one of the easiest system optimizer.
> 
> I stop using huge tmpfs for tmp since it gains nothing for me.

Okay, so no more worries about this. I will keep the old-good default for 
"/tmp" then.

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Re: OT: Copying a URL from a text browser (was: Re: text browsers)

[Chris Bannister]

[Please, don't top post!]

On Sat, Mar 03, 2012 at 04:56:07PM -0500, Randy Kramer wrote:

> I have lynx installed on my machine, and tried a quick look at it, but is not 
> immediately obvious how to get the URL for a link.

Start lynx, press 'o' 
The options menu will appear.
Press the 'down arrow' until you get to the 'User mode' option just
under 'General Preferences'. (The novice option is probably displayed.)
Press the 'Return key' and select the 'Advanced' option using the 'down
arrow' key.
Press 'Return' (Advanced should be displayed, instead of novice.)

Now press the 'up arrow' until you get to the 'Save options to disk' check box.
Press 'Return' (An 'X' will appear) then press the 'up arrow' until
'Accept Changes' is highlighted. 
Press 'Return'.

You should now see the URL for a link displayed along the bottom of the
screen.

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Re: How do I debug kernel panic that occurs while running X?

[Sven Joachim]

On 2012-03-04 09:16 +0100, Jason Heeris wrote:

> On 4 March 2012 01:28, Brendon Higgins  wrote:
>> Any more ideas? As I said, I tried getting kdump working but have been having
>> trouble getting it to behave.
>
> One more thought, but it's a bit of a long shot as to whether you have
> the equipment. The most watertight way I know of to capture kernel
> output is a serial port and another computer. If, by any chance, you
> have one on your machine, edit /etc/defaults/grub to include
> console=ttyS0,155200n1 (or whatever speed you like) on the kernel boot
> line. You'll also need another machine with either a serial port or a
> USB-serial adapter, making it half as likely that this will help you
> :P
>
> Of course, most computers these days (*ahem*) don't have serial ports.
> *Maybe* a USB-serial adapter will work for the target machine too...
> although this requires an extra level of redirection on the part of
> the kernel, and may not be as foolproof, so I wouldn't spend the money
> if you don't already have one (or, in fact, two).
>
> Other than that, I'm out of ideas. Hopefully someone else on this list
> has an idea that doesn't require technology that was rendered obsolete
> for most people by 1995...

Either log in via ssh if that is still possible, or use netconsole to
capture kernel messages.

Sven


http://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/networking/netconsole.txt
http://blog.mraw.org/2010/11/08/Debugging_using_netconsole/


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Re: [Feedback needed] Setting the right size for /tmp

[Osamu Aoki]

Hi,

I join too late but ...  (I do not use tmpfs for /tmp)

On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 04:13:05PM +, Camaleón wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 18:07:43 +, Camaleón wrote:
> 
> > I'm running an updated wheezy and today faced with this little
> > problematic.
> 
> (...)
> 
> > Okay, so /tmp is full. Fine. I know how to solve it but I can foresee
> > more situations like this in the future so some questions arise. As the
> > current tmpfs default settings for /tmp seem a bit "unrealistic" (just %
> > 20 of the RAM?) for even doing common tasks:

This is just the default value for RAMTMP=yes in the /etc/default/rcS file.
You could have much bigger than RAM size as long as you have big enough
swap to support it.  You can do so via /etc/fstab. I once had 10GB tmpfs
with 4GB RAM so I could have DVD image on /tmp on tmpfs.  So 20% of RAM
is not good enough reason to reject tmpfs :-)

> > 1/ How many room should be set for a "/tmp" partition? I never had it
> > one so I can't make any good estimation.

This depends on what you run.  DVD data may be as big as 5GB.

> > 2/ Would be better to simply disable tmpfs for "/tmp"? This is how I've
> > been doing all these years.
> > 
> > Any comments are welcome :-)
> 
> Jerome, Bob, Dom... thank you all for your input :-)
> 
> After carefully reading your suggestions I have decided to disable tpmfs 
> for /tmp and use the old method of having /tmp inside a partition.

Good.  As long as you have lots of RAM, most data written to disk stays
on RAM anyway as cached data if it is very short lived data.  So this
does not slow system.

But that may cause concern for disk wareout if you are using SSD.

> @Jerome, why not a dedicated partition to hold /tmp? Because I would have 
> to decide a fixed partition size and to be sincere, I don't think there 
> is any gain for this specific case, this is a small netbook I use mainly 
> for testing purposes so I don't need to be excesive careful with security 
> or privacy options nor "need for speed" :-). I prefer to keep things as 
> easy as possible.
> 
> @Bob, thanks for pointing out that development mailing list thread. Very 
> interesting. By reading it, I see this is also issue for other users and 
> I have to agree that the defaults are a bit (to say at least) 
> conservative. I'm usually fine with Debian defaults and try to keep them 
> as long as  there is no compelling reason for editing them, e.g., when 
> they choke with common tasks, like making MC to crash for the simple fact 
> of exploring a 75 MiB compressed file :-) 
> 
> @Dom, I agree, having "/tmp" on the same "/" directory is also the most 
> suitable deal for me.
> 
> So, in the end I have set "RAMTMP=no" option at "/etc/default/rcS".

But if you are on laptop with SSD and lots of memory, you may optimize
diskware by slowing down on disk cache flushing from memory.

 
http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch09.en.html#_optimization_of_solid_state_drive

Anyway, even for mormal usage, use of noatime in mount option seems to
be one of the easiest system optimizer.

I stop using huge tmpfs for tmp since it gains nothing for me.

Regards,

Osamu


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Re: Problem with NetworkManager - WAS: Re: Help needed to repair a damaged dual boot Debian System

[Tom H]

On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 4:25 PM, Andrei POPESCU  wrote:
> On Sb, 03 mar 12, 20:59:30, Bernard wrote:
>>
>> Thanks in advance for your help with the 'NetworkManager' or any
>> other convenient tool that would operate on Squeeze so as to easily
>> turn an Internet connexion ON and OFF
>
> Make sure you have NO definition for eth0 in /etc/network/interfaces and
> that you have:
>
> [ifupdown]
> managed=false
>
> in /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf

For the record, you can have "managed=true" and only define "lo" in
"/etc/network/interfaces" and NM'll manage the interfaces.


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Re: MD device not found on boot

[Tom H]

On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 2:36 PM, Daniel Bareiro  wrote:
>
> Doing a test on 2.6.32-bpo.5-amd64, the /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf seems to
> be consistent:
>
> # cat /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf
> ARRAY /dev/md0 level=raid1 num-devices=2 metadata=0.90 
> UUID=e94e767e:1183e8a6:67791052:2affdb87
> ARRAY /dev/md1 level=raid1 num-devices=2 metadata=0.90 
> UUID=0492f0eb:9f649719:24a66d4c:4b61d9a6
> ARRAY /dev/md2 level=raid1 num-devices=2 metadata=0.90 
> UUID=da5a0c19:c38ccc6d:325196eb:eb163021
> ARRAY /dev/md3 level=raid1 num-devices=2 metadata=0.90 
> UUID=552e20c1:b4272c8d:b7f9e5fe:737c9276
> ARRAY /dev/md5 level=raid1 num-devices=2 metadata=0.90 
> UUID=80619797:1712d4dd:64a19d1d:8273eab2
>
> # mdadm --detail --scan
> ARRAY /dev/md0 level=raid1 num-devices=2 metadata=00.90 
> UUID=e94e767e:1183e8a6:67791052:2affdb87
> ARRAY /dev/md1 level=raid1 num-devices=2 metadata=00.90 
> UUID=0492f0eb:9f649719:24a66d4c:4b61d9a6
> ARRAY /dev/md2 level=raid1 num-devices=2 metadata=00.90 
> UUID=da5a0c19:c38ccc6d:325196eb:eb163021
> ARRAY /dev/md3 level=raid1 num-devices=2 metadata=00.90 
> UUID=552e20c1:b4272c8d:b7f9e5fe:737c9276
> ARRAY /dev/md5 level=raid1 num-devices=2 metadata=00.90 
> UUID=80619797:1712d4dd:64a19d1d:8273eab2
>
> In any case, given that 2.6.32-bpo.5-amd64 boots without problems
> with same configuration and mdadm metadata, I am inclined to think
> that the problem is some of the kernel. Maybe inirtd...

Did you recreate your initrd after changing your mdadm.conf?


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Re: [OT] munin

[Wolfgang Karall]

Hello,

why's this OT? :)

On Sat, Mar 03, 2012 at 11:01:07PM -0500, Brad Alexander wrote:
> this is on both the working and non-working nodes. My network is not
> running ipv6. In fact, net-pf-10 is commented out on all the hosts
> that I have checked.

IIRC, to actually disable IPv6 you need to actually uncomment the line,
replacing the "ipv6" with "off", like

alias net-pf-10 off

> Can anyone tell me why these 5 nodes will not connect to the server
> and refuses connections to localhost and ::1?

What does

grep ^allow /etc/munin/munin-node.conf

produce on the machines?

Cheers
Wolfgang


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Re: MD device not found on boot

[tv.deb...@googlemail.com]

04/03/2012 02:27, Daniel Bareiro wrote:
> On Saturday, 03 March 2012 10:43:52 +0100,
> tv.deb...@googlemail.com wrote:
> 
 Are you using kernel-package "make-kpkg" or the "make deb-pkg"
 target to build your kernel packages ? The former requires a bit of
 manual configuration to work properly.
> 
>>> I'm using make-kpkg:
>>>
>>> # cp /boot/config-`uname -r` .config
>>> # make menuconfig
>>> # make-kpkg --initrd --append_to_version=-layer7-imq-amd64 linux-image
> 
>> What steps did you take to configure kernel-package ? Did you read
>> /usr/share/doc/kernel-package/README.gz ? Just a short citation:
>>
>> "With the new kernel-package conventions, you also need the example
>> scripts in /etc/kernel/postinst.d/ and /etc/kernel/postrm.d, to create
>> and remove the initramfs. Make sure that these scripts pay attention
>> to the INITRD env variable to determine whether or not to take any
>> action.
>>
>>
>>  Let me repeat:
>>  Since nothing is created automatically. you need to provide a hook
>>  script for things to happen when you install the kernel image
>>  package.  The user provides such scripts. For example, to invoke
>>  mkinitramfs, I did:
>>
>> --8<---cut here---start->8---
>>  cp /usr/share/kernel-package/examples/etc/kernel/postinst.d/initramfs \
>> /etc/kernel/postinst.d/
>>  cp /usr/share/kernel-package/examples/etc/kernel/postrm.d/initramfs \
>> /etc/kernel/postrm.d/
>> --8<---cut here---end--->8---
>> "
>>
>> Maybe that's part of the problem.
> 
> Here I am not physically in front of the host to be tested, however I
> installed Debian GNU/Linux 5.0.9 Lenny in a KVM virtual machine in order
> to replicate the problem.
> 
> I was reading the file /usr/share/doc/kernel-package/README.gz on the
> KVM virtual machine, but I didn't found the quote you mentioned, nor the
> two files.

Sorry, my bad, I forgot that kernel-package undertook a major overhaul
after Lenny, so it's no wonder why you can't find the quote, it doesn't
exist in your version. With Lenny kernel-package everything is supposed
to be configured automatically at install time.


However I tried the kernel compiled with the above steps
> (without additional steps) and I could not reproduce the problem on my
> virtual machine. i.e. it boots without problems. One test failed with a
> message that the initrd was too big, but then to expand the RAM of the
> VM, it boots without problems.
> 
> So now the issue is finding the difference between these two scenarios.
> 
> 1) Debian GNU/Linux Lenny 5.0.8:
> 
>* 2.6.32-bpo.5-amd64 boots without problems.
>* 2.6.32-layer7-imq-amd64 fails to find the MD devices.
>* The environment is the same, so there were no changes in settings
>  or metadata, which makes me think that the difference is something
>  on the compiled kernel. But...
> 
> 2) Debian GNU/Linux Lenny 5.0.9 (KVM):
> 
>* 2.6.32-bpo.5-amd64 boots without problems.
>* 2.6.32-layer7-imq-amd64 compiled using the same procedure as in (1)
>  boots without problems. This makes me think that then the problem
>  is not the procedure used to compile.
> 
> Then the problem is due to a difference between 5.0.8 and 5.0.9? But, if
> so, why precompiled kernel does not produce problems and the manually
> compiled kernel fails using a procedure that did not bring problems in
> another scenario?

Looks like you are triggering a corner case the 5.0.8, and maybe one of
the 5.0.9 updates fixed that ? I guess you checked that all
configuration files (/etc/kernel-img.conf, /etc/initramfs-tools/modules
etc...) are the same on the two hosts. Checked the changelogs for mdadm,
initramfs-tools and kernel-package between 5.08 and 5.09 ?

The virtual machine hardware could also influence the outcome, if you
could image the non working host and test it with the exact same setup
you could bisect the origin of the problem more easily. Could be in
initrd generation, but also simply in the boot loader or devices
addressing (something changed in grub in between 5.08 and 5.09 ?). The
problem occurs when the initrd is looking for the root fs on /dev/md2,
when dropped to a shell did you try to see if /dev/md2 really doesn't
exist, or is named differently. Can it be assembled in initrd shell and
the boot process resumed ?

Anyway, even if you find a bug in Lenny 5.0.9 (and all the more in
5.0.8) in initramfs-tools, mdadm or another essential package, it is not
going to be taken care of since Lenny reached it's end of life. Maybe
it's time for an upgrade ?

> 
> Thanks for your reply.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Daniel


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Re: How do I debug kernel panic that occurs while running X?

[Jason Heeris]

On 4 March 2012 01:28, Brendon Higgins  wrote:
> Any more ideas? As I said, I tried getting kdump working but have been having
> trouble getting it to behave.

One more thought, but it's a bit of a long shot as to whether you have
the equipment. The most watertight way I know of to capture kernel
output is a serial port and another computer. If, by any chance, you
have one on your machine, edit /etc/defaults/grub to include
console=ttyS0,155200n1 (or whatever speed you like) on the kernel boot
line. You'll also need another machine with either a serial port or a
USB-serial adapter, making it half as likely that this will help you
:P

Of course, most computers these days (*ahem*) don't have serial ports.
*Maybe* a USB-serial adapter will work for the target machine too...
although this requires an extra level of redirection on the part of
the kernel, and may not be as foolproof, so I wouldn't spend the money
if you don't already have one (or, in fact, two).

Other than that, I'm out of ideas. Hopefully someone else on this list
has an idea that doesn't require technology that was rendered obsolete
for most people by 1995...

— Jason


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Re: General unstability on wheezy (unstable repository)

[Chris Bannister]

On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 10:59:03PM +0100, Abou Al Montacir wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> During the last few months I've been experiencing an increasing
> instability on my systems running wheezy. This used to be a good quality
> repository and good compromise between stability and new features for a
> desktop usage.

Please don't confuse "unstable" with buggy. In the Debian sense it means
"constantly changing", "moving state". Whereas stable means "not changing",
"known state".

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