Neteja d'spam: abril 2012

2012-05-04 Thread Mònica Ramírez Arceda
Hola,

Com que ja estem al maig, ja es poden processar tots el correu brossa
de l'abril del 2012.

Recordeu que la lluita contra l'spam a les llistes en català la
coordinem aquí:

http://wiki.debian.org/I18n/CatalanSpamClean

A més, encara queden uns quants anys per fer.
Ànims, que cada cop queda menys!
Mònica

PS: Gràcies lluís per afegir les files d'abril :-)



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Connectar smartphones i/o tablets amb Debian

2012-05-04 Thread Ferran Juanos
Benvolguts membres de la llista.

Estic cercant alternatives per a substituir un dispositiu pocket PC (amb
Windows mobile 5) el qual no he pogut connectar mai amb Debian.

La idea seria un smartphone amb pantalla gran (4,2' o més) o un tablet
petit (7' o 8' de pantalla) amb sistema Android (No he trobat, o no he
sabut trobar dispositius que portin Linux de fàcil accés i compra).

Però el problema que em temo es que possiblement no el podré connectar a
l'ordinador per transferir fitxers.

M'agradaria saber l'experiència dels membres de la llista amb aquests
tipus de dispositiu i les vostres possibles recomanacions

Pel que he vist sembla que a partir de la versió 3 d'Android han canviat
de sistema de transferència de fitxers (fins la versió 2.3 amb “USB mass
storage” l'ordinador tractava el dispositiu com un disc dur extern o un
llapis USB, i a partir de la versió 3.0, MTP (media transfer protocol)
el qual sembla ser que es originari de Microsoft. He mirat i a Squeeze
hi ha alguns paquets relacionats amb aquest protocol es tracta dels
següents:

libmtp8 - Media Transfer Protocol (MTP) library
mtp-tools - Media Transfer Protocol (MTP) library tools
mtpfs - FUSE filesystem for Media Transfer Protocol devices

He vist tutorials de gent fent servir ubuntu que connecta diferents
smartphones i tablets fins i tot un Blackberry playbook (per cert que hi
ha ofertes bastant interessants d'aquest model).

Agrairia qualsevol informació que em pogués ser útil per prendre la meva
decisió de compra.


Gràcies a tots per avançat.


Ferran



Re: HS : Opinion d'un aveugle [Etait: Numérisation de disques vinyles]

2012-05-04 Thread Jérôme
Le vendredi 04 mai 2012 à 04:11 +0200, Raphaël POITEVIN a écrit :
 Oh non, ça ne risque pas ! Et même en LaTeX, un poème reste agréable à
 lire ! :)

Je n'en doute pas !

Puisqu'on est là, j'aurais quelques petites questions par pure
curiosité, ne te sens pas obligé de répondre :

1. Quels sont les outils et les choix spécifiques as-tu ? Par exemple
quel gestionnaire de bureau, quelle synthèse vocale sont confortables
pour vous ? Quel outil pour la console tty ?

2. Pour installer son système, ça doit être assez fun... à quel point
peut-on être indépendant pour la mise en route, les installations de
programmes et la maintenance du système ? Qu'est-ce qui est le plus
bloquant ?

3. Il y a maintenant une force militante féminine qui communique
régulièrement dans la communauté Debian, y a-t-il un petit pôle de
communication un peu plus sexy et médiatique que la page de debian
accessibility ? 

4. Quels sont les manques et les principaux souhaits que tu aurais
concernant Debian en général (pas que d'un point de vue logiciel donc) ?


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Bash : quelques petites questions...

2012-05-04 Thread David BERCOT
Bonjour,

Je viens de reprendre un script qui travaille sur des serveurs ESX et,
après y avoir passé deux jours, je pense qu'il est temps que je
demande un peu d'aide ;-)

Bref, je souhaite faire un traitement sur l'ensemble (ou presque) des
fichiers vmdk de mes VM. Pour cela, je partais sur quelque chose du
genre :
ssh mon_serveur_esx for monfile in ls
\/vmfs/volumes/4f33a50e-0762c7f9-9763-001a6436484a/s47z038 - Test
d'installation De\/*.vmdk ; do echo \\${monfile}\ ; done

Premier souci : la commande ls apparaît dans le résultat ! Je ne
comprends pas bien pourquoi... Je ne devrais avoir, de mon point de
vue, que les lignes correspondantes...

Ensuite, je souhaiterais supprimer certaines lignes en ajoutant un
grep :
ssh esx-supp-02.cnin.insee.fr for monfile in ls
\/vmfs/volumes/4f33a50e-0762c7f9-9763-001a6436484a/s47z038 - Test
d'installation De\/*.vmdk | grep -v 0 ; do echo \\${monfile}\ ;
done
Là, il me répond : ash: syntax error: | unexpected
Je suppose que les deux commandes devraient être un peu isolées mais je
ne vois pas comment...

J'ai d'autres problèmes mais je pense que, pour commencer, si
j'obtenais quelques indices sur ces premiers problèmes, ce serait déjà
un bon début.

Merci d'avance pour toutes les pistes que vous pourrez m'indiquer.

David.

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Re: Bash : quelques petites questions...

2012-05-04 Thread JF Straeten

Re,

On Fri, May 04, 2012 at 02:14:08PM +0200, David BERCOT wrote:

[...]
 ssh mon_serveur_esx for monfile in ls
 \/vmfs/volumes/4f33a50e-0762c7f9-9763-001a6436484a/s47z038 - Test
 d'installation De\/*.vmdk ; do echo \\${monfile}\ ; done
 
 Premier souci : la commande ls apparaît dans le résultat ! Je ne
 comprends pas bien pourquoi... 

Ne serait-ce pas plutôt :

for monfile in $(ls MesVdmk.*)
do
...
done

pour distribuer ta boucle sur *ce que renvoie* d'ls ?


 
 Ensuite, je souhaiterais supprimer certaines lignes en ajoutant un
 grep :
 ssh esx-supp-02.cnin.insee.fr for monfile in ls
 \/vmfs/volumes/4f33a50e-0762c7f9-9763-001a6436484a/s47z038 - Test
 d'installation De\/*.vmdk | grep -v 0 ; do echo \\${monfile}\ ;
 done
 Là, il me répond : ash: syntax error: | unexpected
 Je suppose que les deux commandes devraient être un peu isolées mais je
 ne vois pas comment...

En corrigeant ci-dessus, ça devrait améliorer le grep aussi, non ?

C'est mieux ?

Hih,

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Re: dig idn

2012-05-04 Thread Tanguy Ortolo
Daniel Caillibaud, 2012-05-03 18:06+0200:
 Le dig de ma squeeze ne cause pas idn (il traduit un é en \195\169, avec un 
 terminal en
 utf-8).

Ça ressemble ne ressemble pas du tout à de l'IDN ça, mais plutôt à un
nom codé en UTF-8.

Il existe plusieurs façons de codéer des caractères hors ASCII dans le
DNS :
– en choisissant un codage habituel sur huit bits comme UTF-8 et en
  mettant directement les données codées dans le fichier de zone ;
– en choisissant un codage sur 7 bits comme IDN.

C'est la seconde solution qui a été retenue pour être normalisée, mais
BIND ne s'en occupe pas lui-même : c'est à toi de coder tes noms puis de
mettre les données codées dans ton fichier de zone.

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Re: Bash : quelques petites questions...

2012-05-04 Thread David BERCOT
Le Fri, 4 May 2012 14:20:13 +0200,
JF Straeten jfstrae...@scarlet.be a écrit :
Re,
On Fri, May 04, 2012 at 02:14:08PM +0200, David BERCOT wrote:
[...]
 ssh mon_serveur_esx for monfile in ls
 \/vmfs/volumes/4f33a50e-0762c7f9-9763-001a6436484a/s47z038 - Test
 d'installation De\/*.vmdk ; do echo \\${monfile}\ ; done
 
 Premier souci : la commande ls apparaît dans le résultat ! Je ne
 comprends pas bien pourquoi... 

Ne serait-ce pas plutôt :
for monfile in $(ls MesVdmk.*)
do
...
done
pour distribuer ta boucle sur *ce que renvoie* d'ls ?

Alors, tout d'abord, le ls est effectivement superflu dans ma
première écriture (c'est d'ailleurs pour ça qu'il est présent dans le
résultat).
Après, je suis d'accord sur l'écriture for monfile in $()..., sauf
qu'il faut protéger le $. Mais bizarrement, il me renvoie les résultats
découpés dès qu'il voit un blanc !

Exemple :

ssh mon_serveur_esx for monfile in
\/vmfs/volumes/4f33a50e-0762c7f9-9763-001a6436484a/s47z038 - Test
d'installation De\/*.vmdk ; do echo \\${monfile}\ ; done

/vmfs/volumes/4f33a50e-0762c7f9-9763-001a6436484a/s47z038 - Test
d'installation De/s47z038 - Test d'installation
De-flat.vmdk
/vmfs/volumes/4f33a50e-0762c7f9-9763-001a6436484a/s47z038 - Test
d'installation De/s47z038 - Test d'installation De.vmdk

ssh mon_serveur_esx for monfile in \$(ls
\/vmfs/volumes/4f33a50e-0762c7f9-9763-001a6436484a/s47z038 - Test
d'installation De\/*.vmdk) ; do echo \\${monfile}\ ; done

/vmfs/volumes/4f33a50e-0762c7f9-9763-001a6436484a/s47z038
-
Test
d'installation
De/s47z038
-
Test
d'installation
De-flat.vmdk
[...]

 Ensuite, je souhaiterais supprimer certaines lignes en ajoutant un
 grep :
 ssh esx-supp-02.cnin.insee.fr for monfile in ls
 \/vmfs/volumes/4f33a50e-0762c7f9-9763-001a6436484a/s47z038 - Test
 d'installation De\/*.vmdk | grep -v 0 ; do echo
 \\${monfile}\ ; done
 Là, il me répond : ash: syntax error: | unexpected
 Je suppose que les deux commandes devraient être un peu isolées mais
 je ne vois pas comment...

En corrigeant ci-dessus, ça devrait améliorer le grep aussi, non ?

C'est mieux ?

Comme je n'ai pas encore tout corrigé ;-)

David.

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Re: Bash : quelques petites questions...

2012-05-04 Thread Bruno Richard
bonjour,

et avec une syntaxe de ce style ?
ssh serveur 'for i in `ls /tmp/`;do echo $i;done'

les ' permettent de banaliser les caractères i.e. empêcher le shell courant
d'interpreter
les caractères spéciaux et notamment `et $
les ` permettent d'exécuter la commande ls /tmp et de renvoyer son résultat
au for.

Bruno


Le 4 mai 2012 16:40, David BERCOT deb...@bercot.org a écrit :

 Le Fri, 4 May 2012 14:20:13 +0200,
 JF Straeten jfstrae...@scarlet.be a écrit :
 Re,
 On Fri, May 04, 2012 at 02:14:08PM +0200, David BERCOT wrote:
 [...]
  ssh mon_serveur_esx for monfile in ls
  \/vmfs/volumes/4f33a50e-0762c7f9-9763-001a6436484a/s47z038 - Test
  d'installation De\/*.vmdk ; do echo \\${monfile}\ ; done
 
  Premier souci : la commande ls apparaît dans le résultat ! Je ne
  comprends pas bien pourquoi...
 
 Ne serait-ce pas plutôt :
 for monfile in $(ls MesVdmk.*)
 do
 ...
 done
 pour distribuer ta boucle sur *ce que renvoie* d'ls ?

 Alors, tout d'abord, le ls est effectivement superflu dans ma
 première écriture (c'est d'ailleurs pour ça qu'il est présent dans le
 résultat).
 Après, je suis d'accord sur l'écriture for monfile in $()..., sauf
 qu'il faut protéger le $. Mais bizarrement, il me renvoie les résultats
 découpés dès qu'il voit un blanc !

 Exemple :

 ssh mon_serveur_esx for monfile in
 \/vmfs/volumes/4f33a50e-0762c7f9-9763-001a6436484a/s47z038 - Test
 d'installation De\/*.vmdk ; do echo \\${monfile}\ ; done

 /vmfs/volumes/4f33a50e-0762c7f9-9763-001a6436484a/s47z038 - Test
 d'installation De/s47z038 - Test d'installation
 De-flat.vmdk
 /vmfs/volumes/4f33a50e-0762c7f9-9763-001a6436484a/s47z038 - Test
 d'installation De/s47z038 - Test d'installation De.vmdk

 ssh mon_serveur_esx for monfile in \$(ls
 \/vmfs/volumes/4f33a50e-0762c7f9-9763-001a6436484a/s47z038 - Test
 d'installation De\/*.vmdk) ; do echo \\${monfile}\ ; done

 /vmfs/volumes/4f33a50e-0762c7f9-9763-001a6436484a/s47z038
 -
 Test
 d'installation
 De/s47z038
 -
 Test
 d'installation
 De-flat.vmdk
 [...]

  Ensuite, je souhaiterais supprimer certaines lignes en ajoutant un
  grep :
  ssh esx-supp-02.cnin.insee.fr for monfile in ls
  \/vmfs/volumes/4f33a50e-0762c7f9-9763-001a6436484a/s47z038 - Test
  d'installation De\/*.vmdk | grep -v 0 ; do echo
  \\${monfile}\ ; done
  Là, il me répond : ash: syntax error: | unexpected
  Je suppose que les deux commandes devraient être un peu isolées mais
  je ne vois pas comment...
 
 En corrigeant ci-dessus, ça devrait améliorer le grep aussi, non ?
 
 C'est mieux ?

 Comme je n'ai pas encore tout corrigé ;-)

 David.

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Re: Bash : quelques petites questions...

2012-05-04 Thread JF Straeten

Re,

On Fri, May 04, 2012 at 04:40:01PM +0200, David BERCOT wrote:

 Ne serait-ce pas plutôt :
 for monfile in $(ls MesVdmk.*)
 do
 ...
 done
 pour distribuer ta boucle sur *ce que renvoie* d'ls ?
 
 Alors, tout d'abord, le ls est effectivement superflu dans ma
 première écriture (c'est d'ailleurs pour ça qu'il est présent dans
 le résultat).

'tention... je croyais que le ls était simplifié dans l'exemple,
mais que tu utilisais en réalité des switches pour lister les fichiers
d'une manière particulière. (Genre ls -lth pour avoir une liste
longue, human readable et temporellement inversée.)

Si c'est juste un 'ls', alors oui, autant utiliser les jokers du shell
et ne pas lancer un sous-processus pour rien ;)


 Après, je suis d'accord sur l'écriture for monfile in $()..., sauf
 qu'il faut protéger le $. Mais bizarrement, il me renvoie les résultats
 découpés dès qu'il voit un blanc !

Mmmm... non, la construction avec $() (dollar + parenthèses) servait à
récupérer le résultat de la commande placée dedans. Pour protéger la
variable, il faut ${} (dollar + accolades). D'ailleurs, c'est ce que
tu fais ci-dessous :
 

 ssh mon_serveur_esx for monfile in
 \/vmfs/volumes/4f33a50e-0762c7f9-9763-001a6436484a/s47z038 - Test
 d'installation De\/*.vmdk ; do echo \\${monfile}\ ; done

[...] 

 -
 Test
 d'installation
 De/s47z038
 -
 Test
 d'installation
 De-flat.vmdk
 [...]

Il y a des espaces dans les noms de tes .vmdk ?

Tu saurais coller un ls -l du répertoire qui les contient, avec le
path absolu ?

Il y a un truc que je ne pige pas à mon avis...

A+


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Re: Bash : quelques petites questions...

2012-05-04 Thread David BERCOT
Le Fri, 4 May 2012 16:46:23 +0200,
Bruno Richard richard.brun...@gmail.com a écrit :
bonjour,

et avec une syntaxe de ce style ?
ssh serveur 'for i in `ls /tmp/`;do echo $i;done'

les ' permettent de banaliser les caractères i.e. empêcher le shell
courant d'interpreter
les caractères spéciaux et notamment `et $
les ` permettent d'exécuter la commande ls /tmp et de renvoyer son
résultat au for.

J'avais déjà essayé cette syntaxe. Indépendamment des choses qui ne
marchent pas (avec des , ça ne fonctionne plus et j'en ai besoin pour
mes noms de répertoires avec des blancs), le résultat est également
découpé dès qu'il y a un blanc dans la réponse...

David.

Bruno

Le 4 mai 2012 16:40, David BERCOT deb...@bercot.org a écrit :

 Le Fri, 4 May 2012 14:20:13 +0200,
 JF Straeten jfstrae...@scarlet.be a écrit :
 Re,
 On Fri, May 04, 2012 at 02:14:08PM +0200, David BERCOT wrote:
 [...]
  ssh mon_serveur_esx for monfile in ls
  \/vmfs/volumes/4f33a50e-0762c7f9-9763-001a6436484a/s47z038 - Test
  d'installation De\/*.vmdk ; do echo \\${monfile}\ ; done
 
  Premier souci : la commande ls apparaît dans le résultat ! Je ne
  comprends pas bien pourquoi...
 
 Ne serait-ce pas plutôt :
 for monfile in $(ls MesVdmk.*)
 do
 ...
 done
 pour distribuer ta boucle sur *ce que renvoie* d'ls ?

 Alors, tout d'abord, le ls est effectivement superflu dans ma
 première écriture (c'est d'ailleurs pour ça qu'il est présent dans le
 résultat).
 Après, je suis d'accord sur l'écriture for monfile in $()..., sauf
 qu'il faut protéger le $. Mais bizarrement, il me renvoie les
 résultats découpés dès qu'il voit un blanc !

 Exemple :

 ssh mon_serveur_esx for monfile in
 \/vmfs/volumes/4f33a50e-0762c7f9-9763-001a6436484a/s47z038 - Test
 d'installation De\/*.vmdk ; do echo \\${monfile}\ ; done

 /vmfs/volumes/4f33a50e-0762c7f9-9763-001a6436484a/s47z038 - Test
 d'installation De/s47z038 - Test d'installation
 De-flat.vmdk
 /vmfs/volumes/4f33a50e-0762c7f9-9763-001a6436484a/s47z038 - Test
 d'installation De/s47z038 - Test d'installation De.vmdk

 ssh mon_serveur_esx for monfile in \$(ls
 \/vmfs/volumes/4f33a50e-0762c7f9-9763-001a6436484a/s47z038 - Test
 d'installation De\/*.vmdk) ; do echo \\${monfile}\ ; done

 /vmfs/volumes/4f33a50e-0762c7f9-9763-001a6436484a/s47z038
 -
 Test
 d'installation
 De/s47z038
 -
 Test
 d'installation
 De-flat.vmdk
 [...]

  Ensuite, je souhaiterais supprimer certaines lignes en ajoutant un
  grep :
  ssh esx-supp-02.cnin.insee.fr for monfile in ls
  \/vmfs/volumes/4f33a50e-0762c7f9-9763-001a6436484a/s47z038 - Test
  d'installation De\/*.vmdk | grep -v 0 ; do echo
  \\${monfile}\ ; done
  Là, il me répond : ash: syntax error: | unexpected
  Je suppose que les deux commandes devraient être un peu isolées
  mais je ne vois pas comment...
 
 En corrigeant ci-dessus, ça devrait améliorer le grep aussi, non ?
 
 C'est mieux ?

 Comme je n'ai pas encore tout corrigé ;-)

 David.

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Re: Bash : quelques petites questions...

2012-05-04 Thread JF Straeten

Re,

On Fri, May 04, 2012 at 04:46:23PM +0200, Bruno Richard wrote:

 et avec une syntaxe de ce style ?
 ssh serveur 'for i in `ls /tmp/`;do echo $i;done'
 
 les ' permettent de banaliser les caractères i.e. empêcher le shell
 courant d'interpreter les caractères spéciaux et notamment `et $ les
 ` permettent d'exécuter la commande ls /tmp et de renvoyer son
 résultat au for.

Oui, ça fait la même chose que la construction $(), recommandée en
bash si je me souviens bien (?).

Mais ici, je crois qu'on a deux niveaux de contrariété potentiels avec
les guillemets : la boucle est elle-même la commande passée à ssh...

Ça fait deux chances pour les guillemets/apostrophes de se faire
bouffer quelque part ;)

@David : tu ne sais pas scripter le traitement des .vmdk, et appeler
le script par ssh, pour voir ce que ça donne ?

A+

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Re: Bash : quelques petites questions...

2012-05-04 Thread Sébastien NOBILI
Salut,

Le vendredi 04 mai 2012 à 16:40, David BERCOT a écrit :
 Alors, tout d'abord, le ls est effectivement superflu dans ma
 première écriture (c'est d'ailleurs pour ça qu'il est présent dans le
 résultat).
 Après, je suis d'accord sur l'écriture for monfile in $()..., sauf
 qu'il faut protéger le $. Mais bizarrement, il me renvoie les résultats
 découpés dès qu'il voit un blanc !

Tu peux jouer avec la variable IFS (le séparateur d'arguments), tu verras, c'est
marrant !

Les scripts en Shell, dès qu'il y a des espaces c'est la m !
Personnellement, j'utilise Perl (mais Python / Ruby / … feront l'affaire).

Seb

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Re: Bash : quelques petites questions...

2012-05-04 Thread David BERCOT
Le Fri, 4 May 2012 16:58:12 +0200,
JF Straeten jfstrae...@scarlet.be a écrit :
 Ne serait-ce pas plutôt :
 for monfile in $(ls MesVdmk.*)
 do
 ...
 done
 pour distribuer ta boucle sur *ce que renvoie* d'ls ?
 
 Alors, tout d'abord, le ls est effectivement superflu dans ma
 première écriture (c'est d'ailleurs pour ça qu'il est présent dans
 le résultat).

'tention... je croyais que le ls était simplifié dans l'exemple,
mais que tu utilisais en réalité des switches pour lister les fichiers
d'une manière particulière. (Genre ls -lth pour avoir une liste
longue, human readable et temporellement inversée.)

Si c'est juste un 'ls', alors oui, autant utiliser les jokers du shell
et ne pas lancer un sous-processus pour rien ;)

C'est le cas ;-)

 Après, je suis d'accord sur l'écriture for monfile in $()..., sauf
 qu'il faut protéger le $. Mais bizarrement, il me renvoie les
 résultats découpés dès qu'il voit un blanc !

Mmmm... non, la construction avec $() (dollar + parenthèses) servait à
récupérer le résultat de la commande placée dedans. Pour protéger la
variable, il faut ${} (dollar + accolades). D'ailleurs, c'est ce que
tu fais ci-dessous :
 
 ssh mon_serveur_esx for monfile in
 \/vmfs/volumes/4f33a50e-0762c7f9-9763-001a6436484a/s47z038 - Test
 d'installation De\/*.vmdk ; do echo \\${monfile}\ ; done

Certes, mais là, c'est différent, non ?
Tu me proposes de remplacer $() par ${} ?
Du genre :

ssh mon_serveur_esx for monfile in
\${ls /vmfs/volumes/4f33a50e-0762c7f9-9763-001a6436484a} ; do echo
$monfile ; done ?
Mhum, même avec différentes syntaxes, j'obtiens juste :
ash: syntax error: Bad substitution

[...] 

 -
 Test
 d'installation
 De/s47z038
 -
 Test
 d'installation
 De-flat.vmdk
 [...]

Il y a des espaces dans les noms de tes .vmdk ?

En effet :-(

Tu saurais coller un ls -l du répertoire qui les contient, avec le
path absolu ?

Euh oui, mais pourquoi ?

Il y a un truc que je ne pige pas à mon avis...

C'est peut-être aussi moi qui explique mal ;-)

@David : tu ne sais pas scripter le traitement des .vmdk, et appeler
le script par ssh, pour voir ce que ça donne ?

Tu veux dire, faire un script sur le serveur et l'appeler ensuite
directement ? C'est ce que m'a suggérer Basile en mp ;-)
Je pourrais, mais vu que j'ai plein de serveurs à traiter, ça ne me
convient pas trop.

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Re: dig idn

2012-05-04 Thread Jean-Jacques Doti

Salut,

Le 03/05/2012 18:06, Daniel Caillibaud a écrit :

Bonjour,

Le dig de ma squeeze ne cause pas idn (il traduit un é en \195\169, avec un 
terminal en
utf-8).

   J'ai essayé
apt-build source dnsutils
   =  ça récupère les sources de bind9, visiblement c'est conforme à
  http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/dnsutils même si je comprends pas trop 
pourquoi (car le
  paquet bind9 existe), y'a pas un pb ?

   Et ensuite, un
./configure --with-idn
   passe

   mais
apt-build --source build-source dnsutils
   répond :
Some error occured building package

de toute façon je me sentais moyennement l'envie de recompiler bind9 que 
j'utilise comme
résolveur local, mais j'aimerais comprendre...
La paquet source bind9 permet de générer de nombreux paquets binaires 
(bind9 mais aussi bind9-host, dnsutils, …) Rien ne t'empêche de générer 
ces paquets et de n'installer que celui qui t'intéresse.


Concernant tes erreurs de compilation, cela vient du fait qu'il manque 
les headers concernant la librairie IDN utilisée (ainsi que le librairie 
elle-même). Le soucis est que bind9 utilise idnkit 
(http://www.nic.ad.jp/ja/idn/idnkit/download/index.html) qui ne semble 
pas présent dans Debian : ta seule solution est donc de récupérér et 
d'installer toi-même cette librairie avant de pouvoir compiler dig avec 
le support IDN.


A+
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Re: dig idn

2012-05-04 Thread Daniel Caillibaud
Le 04/05/12 à 13:40, Tanguy Ortolo tanguy+deb...@ortolo.eu a écrit :

TO Daniel Caillibaud, 2012-05-03 18:06+0200:
TO  Le dig de ma squeeze ne cause pas idn (il traduit un é en \195\169, 
avec un terminal en
TO  utf-8).
TO 
TO Ça ressemble ne ressemble pas du tout à de l'IDN ça, mais plutôt à un
TO nom codé en UTF-8.

oui

TO Il existe plusieurs façons de codéer des caractères hors ASCII dans le
TO DNS :
TO – en choisissant un codage habituel sur huit bits comme UTF-8 et en
TO   mettant directement les données codées dans le fichier de zone ;

Je ne parlais pas de fichier de zone mais de la commande dig

Par exemple en console un
  dig sésamath.net

TO – en choisissant un codage sur 7 bits comme IDN.
TO 
TO C'est la seconde solution qui a été retenue pour être normalisée, mais
TO BIND ne s'en occupe pas lui-même : c'est à toi de coder tes noms puis de
TO mettre les données codées dans ton fichier de zone.

Oui, dans bind (et toutes les autres applis serveurs) je gère le punycode, mais 
avec un client
dns comme dig, orienté utilisateur humain autant que machine, je pensais qu'il 
serait compilé
avec idn dans debian.

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Une cause très petite, qui nous échappe, détermine un effet considérable que 
nous ne
pouvons pas ne pas voir, et alors nous disons que cet effet est dû au hasard.
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Re: dig idn

2012-05-04 Thread Daniel Caillibaud
Le 04/05/12 à 16:55, Jean-Jacques Doti b...@doti.fr a écrit :
JJD  apt-build --source build-source dnsutils
JJD répond :
JJD  Some error occured building package
JJD 
JJD  de toute façon je me sentais moyennement l'envie de recompiler bind9 que 
j'utilise comme
JJD  résolveur local, mais j'aimerais comprendre...

JJD La paquet source bind9 permet de générer de nombreux paquets binaires 
JJD (bind9 mais aussi bind9-host, dnsutils, …) Rien ne t'empêche de générer 
JJD ces paquets et de n'installer que celui qui t'intéresse.

OK, c'est plus clair (merci, car la logique de nommer X un paquet source qui 
produit les
paquets binaires X + Y + Z me parait pas si évidente).

JJD Concernant tes erreurs de compilation, cela vient du fait qu'il manque 
JJD les headers concernant la librairie IDN utilisée (ainsi que le librairie 
JJD elle-même). Le soucis est que bind9 utilise idnkit 
JJD (http://www.nic.ad.jp/ja/idn/idnkit/download/index.html) qui ne semble 
JJD pas présent dans Debian : ta seule solution est donc de récupérér et 
JJD d'installer toi-même cette librairie avant de pouvoir compiler dig avec 
JJD le support IDN.

On aurait dans debian des sources qui pour être compilées auraient besoin de 
sources
non-debian ?
Ça me parait gros non ? Pas très dfsg en tout cas ;-)

Par ailleurs, je croyais que la commande 
  apt-build build-source paquet
récupérait aussi toutes les dépendances de paquet et les compilait au besoin, 
j'ai mal lu le
man ?

(mais ce même man précise :
BUGS
   Many.
)

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La nature est prévoyante : elle a fait pousser la pomme en Normandie sachant
que c'est dans cette région qu'on boit le plus de cidre.
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Re: Bash : quelques petites questions...

2012-05-04 Thread David BERCOT
Le Fri, 4 May 2012 17:26:11 +0200,
Stephane Ascoet stephane.asc...@ac-orleans-tours.fr a écrit :
Le vendredi 4 mai 2012 17:15:53, David BERCOT a ecrit :
 Il y a des espaces dans les noms de tes .vmdk ?
 
 En effet :-(
Bonjour, c'est tres mal.
Et en suivant la piste de IFS? Tente IFS=$'\n'; en tete de la
commande qui a le moins mal fonctionne jusqu'a present

Alors, voici un script que j'exécute directement sur l'ESX :
#!/bin/sh
OLDIFS=$IFS
IFS=$'\n'
monpath=/vmfs/volumes/4f33a50e-0762c7f9-9763-001a6436484a/s47z038 -
Test d'installation De
for monfile in `ls $monpath/*.vmdk | grep -v 0`
do echo ${monfile}
done
IFS=$OLDIFS

Et comme résultat, j'ai des retours à la ligne à chaque n ;-) :
~ # ./test
/vmfs/volumes/4f33a50e-0762c7f9-9763-001a6436484a/s47z038 - Test d'i
stallatio
 De/s47z038 - Test d'i
stallatio
 De-flat.vmdk
/vmfs/volumes/4f33a50e-0762c7f9-9763-001a6436484a/s47z038 - Test d'i
stallatio
 De/s47z038 - Test d'i
stallatio
 De.vmdk

Ensuite, en supprimant l'IFS, il revient à la ligne à chaque blanc :
~ # ./test
/vmfs/volumes/4f33a50e-0762c7f9-9763-001a6436484a/s47z038
-
Test
d'installation
De/s47z038
-
Test
d'installation
De-flat.vmdk
/vmfs/volumes/4f33a50e-0762c7f9-9763-001a6436484a/s47z038
-
Test
d'installation
De/s47z038
-
Test
d'installation
De.vmdk

alors que je devrais avoir :
~ # ./test
/vmfs/volumes/4f33a50e-0762c7f9-9763-001a6436484a/s47z038 - Test
d'installation De/s47z038 - Test d'installation De-flat.vmdk
/vmfs/volumes/4f33a50e-0762c7f9-9763-001a6436484a/s47z038 - Test
d'installation De/s47z038 - Test d'installation De.vmdk

David.

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Re: Bash : quelques petites questions...

2012-05-04 Thread Stephane Ascoet
Le vendredi 4 mai 2012 17:15:53, David BERCOT a ecrit :
 Il y a des espaces dans les noms de tes .vmdk ?
 
 En effet :-(
Bonjour, c'est tres mal.
Et en suivant la piste de IFS? Tente IFS=$'\n'; en tete de la commande qui a 
le moins mal fonctionne jusqu'a present
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Re: Bash : quelques petites questions...

2012-05-04 Thread Stephane Ascoet
Le vendredi 4 mai 2012 17:42:23, David BERCOT a ecrit :

 Et comme résultat, j'ai des retours à la ligne à chaque n ;-) :

Il doit y avoir une erreur dans la syntaxe du IFS. C'est tire d'une astuce de 
Denis Bodor dans GNU/LInux Magazine France Hors-Serie 34. Les petites fautes 
de ce style sont helas frequentes :-(
Et sinon, il y a une liste speciale pour le scriptage pour eviter de polluer 
celle-ci...
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Re: Bash : quelques petites questions...

2012-05-04 Thread JF Straeten

Re,

On Fri, May 04, 2012 at 05:15:53PM +0200, David BERCOT wrote:

[...]

 Mmmm... non, la construction avec $() (dollar + parenthèses) servait à
 récupérer le résultat de la commande placée dedans. Pour protéger la
 variable, il faut ${} (dollar + accolades). D'ailleurs, c'est ce que
 tu fais ci-dessous :
  
  ssh mon_serveur_esx for monfile in
  \/vmfs/volumes/4f33a50e-0762c7f9-9763-001a6436484a/s47z038 - Test
  d'installation De\/*.vmdk ; do echo \\${monfile}\ ; done
 
 Certes, mais là, c'est différent, non ?
 Tu me proposes de remplacer $() par ${} ?

Non, non :-)

Faire comme tu faisais avec la variable était bon. Le $() n'était là
que pour « encapsuler » le 'ls' s'il était compliqué.


 Il y a des espaces dans les noms de tes .vmdk ?
 
 En effet :-(

Comme l'a dit quelqu'un d'autre, pas bon en shell :-/

Je remarque aussi que le temps de chercher à quoter comme il faut
suffit souvent pour avoir un truc fonctionnel en Perl, mais ça ne
répond pas à la question ;)

 
 Tu saurais coller un ls -l du répertoire qui les contient, avec le
 path absolu ?
 
 Euh oui, mais pourquoi ?

Pour essayer de comprendre ce que tu veux faire, et voir la gueule du
répertoire sur lequel tu appliques ça.


 @David : tu ne sais pas scripter le traitement des .vmdk, et
 appeler le script par ssh, pour voir ce que ça donne ? Tu veux
 dire, faire un script sur le serveur et l'appeler ensuite 
 directement ? C'est ce que m'a suggérer Basile en mp ;-)

Oui.


 Je pourrais, mais vu que j'ai plein de serveurs à traiter, ça ne me
 convient pas trop.

Pourquoi pas ?

Tu ne pourrais pas imaginer un push du script par scp avant de
l'exécuter, par exemple ?

Genre :

scp monScript.sh root@server:~/

ssh root@server ~/monScript.sh


Tu as toujours la bonne version sur ta machine administrative et celui
qui est injecté sur le serveur est jetable ; tu t'en fous après et
peux même le supprimer.

C'est juste une idée ;)

A+


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Re: dig idn

2012-05-04 Thread Jean-Jacques Doti

Le 04/05/2012 17:37, Daniel Caillibaud a écrit :

JJD  Concernant tes erreurs de compilation, cela vient du fait qu'il manque
JJD  les headers concernant la librairie IDN utilisée (ainsi que le librairie
JJD  elle-même). Le soucis est que bind9 utilise idnkit
JJD  (http://www.nic.ad.jp/ja/idn/idnkit/download/index.html) qui ne semble
JJD  pas présent dans Debian : ta seule solution est donc de récupérér et
JJD  d'installer toi-même cette librairie avant de pouvoir compiler dig avec
JJD  le support IDN.

On aurait dans debian des sources qui pour être compilées auraient besoin de 
sources
non-debian ?
Ça me parait gros non ? Pas très dfsg en tout cas ;-)


En fait, on a dans Debian tout ce qu'il faut pour compiler tous les 
paquets **avec les options choisies par les mainteneurs des paquets**. 
Ça ne signifie pas que l'on peut recompiler tous les logiciels avec 
n'importe laquelle des options de compilation prévue par les 
développeurs. Tous les pré-requis ne sont pas présent et il peut aussi 
il y avoir des librairies redondantes ou des dépendances qui ne sont pas 
libres, ni même librement distribuables.


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Re: Bash : quelques petites questions...

2012-05-04 Thread David BERCOT
Le Fri, 4 May 2012 17:48:52 +0200,
Stephane Ascoet stephane.asc...@ac-orleans-tours.fr a écrit :
Le vendredi 4 mai 2012 17:42:23, David BERCOT a ecrit :

 Et comme résultat, j'ai des retours à la ligne à chaque n ;-) :

Il doit y avoir une erreur dans la syntaxe du IFS. C'est tire d'une
astuce de Denis Bodor dans GNU/LInux Magazine France Hors-Serie 34.
Les petites fautes de ce style sont helas frequentes :-(

Oui, je suppose...

Et sinon, il y a une liste speciale pour le scriptage pour eviter de
polluer celle-ci...

Je viens de regarder la liste complète des listes et je ne l'ai pas
trouvé :-(
Je suis preneur si tu as des infos complémentaires...

Merci.

David.

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Re: Bash : quelques petites questions...

2012-05-04 Thread JF Straeten

Re,

On Fri, May 04, 2012 at 05:42:23PM +0200, David BERCOT wrote:


 Alors, voici un script que j'exécute directement sur l'ESX :
 #!/bin/sh
 OLDIFS=$IFS
 IFS=$'\n'
 monpath=/vmfs/volumes/4f33a50e-0762c7f9-9763-001a6436484a/s47z038 -
 Test d'installation De

Ici, tu as un retour à la ligne pour de vrai ou la ligne a été coupée
par ton mailer ?



 Et comme résultat, j'ai des retours à la ligne à chaque n ;-) :
 ~ # ./test
 /vmfs/volumes/4f33a50e-0762c7f9-9763-001a6436484a/s47z038 - Test d'i
 stallatio
  De/s47z038 - Test d'i
 stallatio
  De-flat.vmdk
 /vmfs/volumes/4f33a50e-0762c7f9-9763-001a6436484a/s47z038 - Test d'i
 stallatio
  De/s47z038 - Test d'i
 stallatio
  De.vmdk
 
 Ensuite, en supprimant l'IFS, il revient à la ligne à chaque blanc :

Est-ce que tu ne lui dit pas justement de considérer que la ligne
finit au n ?

Qu'est-ce que ça donne avec IFS vide ?

A+


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Re: Bash : quelques petites questions...

2012-05-04 Thread David BERCOT
Le Fri, 4 May 2012 18:05:19 +0200,
JF Straeten jfstrae...@scarlet.be a écrit :
 Alors, voici un script que j'exécute directement sur l'ESX :
 #!/bin/sh
 OLDIFS=$IFS
 IFS=$'\n'
 monpath=/vmfs/volumes/4f33a50e-0762c7f9-9763-001a6436484a/s47z038 -
 Test d'installation De

Ici, tu as un retour à la ligne pour de vrai ou la ligne a été coupée
par ton mailer ?

Non, non, ça a été coupé par Claws-Mail...

 Et comme résultat, j'ai des retours à la ligne à chaque n ;-) :
 ~ # ./test
 /vmfs/volumes/4f33a50e-0762c7f9-9763-001a6436484a/s47z038 - Test d'i
 stallatio
  De/s47z038 - Test d'i
 stallatio
  De-flat.vmdk
 /vmfs/volumes/4f33a50e-0762c7f9-9763-001a6436484a/s47z038 - Test d'i
 stallatio
  De/s47z038 - Test d'i
 stallatio
  De.vmdk
 
 Ensuite, en supprimant l'IFS, il revient à la ligne à chaque blanc :

Est-ce que tu ne lui dit pas justement de considérer que la ligne
finit au n ?

Si, quand j'avais l'IFS...

Qu'est-ce que ça donne avec IFS vide ?

Ben justement, là, l'IFS était vide.

Je crois que je vais m'arrêter là pour aujourd'hui ;-)
Je reprendrai la semaine prochaine...

Peut-être que, à tête reposée, ça fonctionnera mieux !

David.

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Re: dig idn

2012-05-04 Thread Daniel Caillibaud
Le 04/05/12 à 17:47, Jean-Jacques Doti j...@doti.fr a écrit :
JJD  On aurait dans debian des sources qui pour être compilées auraient 
besoin de sources
JJD  non-debian ?
JJD  Ça me parait gros non ? Pas très dfsg en tout cas ;-)

JJD En fait, on a dans Debian tout ce qu'il faut pour compiler tous les 
JJD paquets **avec les options choisies par les mainteneurs des paquets**. 
JJD Ça ne signifie pas que l'on peut recompiler tous les logiciels avec 
JJD n'importe laquelle des options de compilation prévue par les 
JJD développeurs.

Merci bcp, c'est nettement plus clair, et je comprends bcp mieux pourquoi dig 
est
compilé sans le support idn dans squeeze.

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Re: Bash : quelques petites questions...

2012-05-04 Thread Jérôme
Le trolldi 04 mai 2012 à 16:46 +0200, Bruno Richard a écrit :

 et avec une syntaxe de ce style ? ssh serveur 'for i in `ls /tmp/`;do
 echo $i;done' 
 
 les ' permettent de banaliser les caractères i.e. empêcher le shell
 courant d'interpreter les caractères spéciaux et notamment `et $ les `
 permettent d'exécuter la commande ls /tmp et de renvoyer son résultat
 au for. 

Oui, sauf qu'il m'a bien semblé voir dans le manuel que les `` étaient
deprecated donc à éviter.


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Detourage video

2012-05-04 Thread zuthos


Bonjour,

Je possède d'ancienne vidéo qui n'ont malheureusement pas été filmé avec
un fond bleu.

Est-il possible de faire ce détourage?
Si oui, comment?

D'avance merci

ps: Google ne m'a pas encore montré la voie. peut-être mes mots clef ne
sont pas les bon?


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Re: Detourage video

2012-05-04 Thread Bzzz
On Fri, 4 May 2012 22:14:01 +0200
zut...@laposte.net wrote:

 Je possède d'ancienne vidéo qui n'ont malheureusement pas été
 filmé avec un fond bleu.
 
 Est-il possible de faire ce détourage?
 Si oui, comment?
 
J'ose espérer qu'elles ont un fond uni, de quelle couleur?

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Re: Detourage video

2012-05-04 Thread Goldy
Le 04/05/2012 22:14, zut...@laposte.net a écrit :
 
 
 Bonjour,
 
 Je possède d'ancienne vidéo qui n'ont malheureusement pas été filmé avec
 un fond bleu.
 
 Est-il possible de faire ce détourage?
 Si oui, comment?
 
 D'avance merci
 
 ps: Google ne m'a pas encore montré la voie. peut-être mes mots clef ne
 sont pas les bon?
 
 

Si le fond n'est pas uni, à part manuellement, je vois pas...

Après, si le plan est fixe, je sais qu'il est possible d'effacer tout ce
qui ne bouge pas dans une séquence vidéo et donc d'effacer le fond, mais
je ne sais pas quel outil est capable de faire ça.

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Re: Detourage video

2012-05-04 Thread Bzzz
On Sat, 05 May 2012 00:28:17 +0200
Goldy go...@goldenfish.info wrote:

 
 Après, si le plan est fixe, je sais qu'il est possible d'effacer
 tout ce qui ne bouge pas dans une séquence vidéo et donc d'effacer
 le fond, mais je ne sais pas quel outil est capable de faire ça.
 
N'importe quel soft permettant le masquage ainsi que le morphing
(pour ne pas avoir à dessiner tous les masques pour chaque image);
après il-y-a des outils qui permettent ça en temps réel, mais on
rentre dans des prix terrorrifiants;)
Si l'image contient du mouvement, et particulièrement des labiales,
il ne faut pas négliger les PBs éventuels de post-synchro.
Disons que si c'est pour du Cial ça vaut _peut-être_ le coup, si 
c'est pour de l'asso ou du perso il faut n'avoir que ça à faire de
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Intallation de debian sur un eeepc

2012-05-04 Thread Philippe Delavalade
Bonjour.

J'espère que ma question n'est pas trop récurrente ; j'avoue ne pas avoir
cherché dans les archives, honte à moi :-)

Je suis l'heureux propriétaire d'un eeepc Asus 1011px équipé au départ
d'une ubuntu pas trop moderne mais c'est sans importance.

Je voudrais savoir si je peux installer une debian à la place sans courir
de risques ; je n'y connais rien en matière de gestion de l'énergie et j'ai
des craintes à ce sujet.

Quelqu'un peut-il me rassurer ?

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[OT] Open Source Day. Maj-2012.

2012-05-04 Thread kzubik
Witam.
Juz niedlugo rozpocznie sie Open Source Day V 2012.
Witryna pod http://www.opensourceday.pl
Termin 8 maja. Wtorek. Od godz. 8 : 30 do ok. godz. 17
Miejsce. Pałac Kultury i Nauki. Warszawa.
 Wejście od strony ul. Marszałkowskiej, VI piętro.

Proponuje nastepujaca podroz z 3-Miasta. Dzien wczesniej 7 maja.

Wyjazd. 7 maja. Poniedzialek.

Gdansk-Glowny godz. 11 : 27 -- Warszawa-Centralna godz. 17 : 36
TLK. 83108. (rel. Kolobrzeg -- Krakow.) Pelna rezerwacja miejsc.
Bilet normalny kl.2 w jedna strone 58 zl + miejscowka 5zl. =  63  zl.
Ja bede w wagonie 18 miejsce 86 okno.

Nocleg w hostelu hotel, 2 statki na Wisle Anita i Aldona przy Moscie
Poniatowskiego.
Witryna i rezerwacja pod http://www.botel.pl
Pokoj 1-osobowy ok. 70 zl.

Powrot. 8 maja. Wtorek.

Warszawa-Centralna godz. 23 : 31 -- Gdansk-Glowny godz. 6 : 04
TLK. 38202 (rel. Krakow -- Kolobrzeg.)

Mozliwy tez powot wczesniejszy o godz. 17 : 10 choc na ten pociag raczej nie
da sie przynajmniej mnie zdazyc, zeby moc spokojnie zjesc obiad.
Pozatym ten pociag ma pelna rezerwacje miejsc i pytanie czy jeszcze beda
wolne  miejsca w ostatniej chwili.

Open Source jest dziś największym i najważniejszym nurtem w sektorze IT -
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LVM: redimensionar VG

2012-05-04 Thread Francesc Guitart
Hola,

Hasta ahora tenia un disco de 80 GB, pero empezó a hacer ruidos raros
así que con ddrescue lo cloné en uno de 500 GB. Ahora tengo unos 400
GB no utilizados y planeo solucionarlo con LVM.

Mi configuración LVM es la siguiente :

1 PV = /dev/sda5
1 VG = grenade
3 LV = /, /home y swap

Dudo entre estas dos posibilidades:

1. Redimensionar sda5 (con Gparted) hasta el final del disco para
luego hacer mas grande el VG.
2. Crear la partición sda6 en el espacio vacío y luego añadirla al VG grenade.


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Re: LVM: redimensionar VG

2012-05-04 Thread Flako
El 4 de mayo de 2012 06:49, Francesc Guitart fguit...@gmail.com escribió:

 Hola,

 Hasta ahora tenia un disco de 80 GB, pero empezó a hacer ruidos raros
 así que con ddrescue lo cloné en uno de 500 GB. Ahora tengo unos 400
 GB no utilizados y planeo solucionarlo con LVM.

 Mi configuración LVM es la siguiente :

 1 PV = /dev/sda5
 1 VG = grenade
 3 LV = /, /home y swap

 Dudo entre estas dos posibilidades:

 1. Redimensionar sda5 (con Gparted) hasta el final del disco para
 luego hacer mas grande el VG.
 2. Crear la partición sda6 en el espacio vacío y luego añadirla al VG
 grenade.



  Hola, Si es un solo disco (físico), tener dos VG no es muy practico, dado
cuando quieras un PV que ocupe todo el disco (físico) no vas a poder porque
lo tenes repartido en 2 VG.
  LVM y sus multiples VG es mas util cuando tenes mas de un disco, de forma
que podes agregarle mas PV y agrandar el VG.

   Yo me decanto por la opción 1, un solo VG grande. pero vas a tener que
perder lo que recuperaste con ddrescure,  definir el lvm y luego
restablecer de nuevo.


 Saludos.


Re: LVM: redimensionar VG

2012-05-04 Thread Francesc Guitart
El 04/05/12, Flako subfo...@gmail.com escribió:
 El 4 de mayo de 2012 06:49, Francesc Guitart fguit...@gmail.com escribió:

 Hola,

 Hasta ahora tenia un disco de 80 GB, pero empezó a hacer ruidos raros
 así que con ddrescue lo cloné en uno de 500 GB. Ahora tengo unos 400
 GB no utilizados y planeo solucionarlo con LVM.

 Mi configuración LVM es la siguiente :

 1 PV = /dev/sda5
 1 VG = grenade
 3 LV = /, /home y swap

 Dudo entre estas dos posibilidades:

 1. Redimensionar sda5 (con Gparted) hasta el final del disco para
 luego hacer mas grande el VG.
 2. Crear la partición sda6 en el espacio vacío y luego añadirla al VG
 grenade.



   Hola, Si es un solo disco (físico), tener dos VG no es muy practico, dado
 cuando quieras un PV que ocupe todo el disco (físico) no vas a poder porque
 lo tenes repartido en 2 VG.
   LVM y sus multiples VG es mas util cuando tenes mas de un disco, de forma
 que podes agregarle mas PV y agrandar el VG.

Yo me decanto por la opción 1, un solo VG grande. pero vas a tener que
 perder lo que recuperaste con ddrescure,  definir el lvm y luego
 restablecer de nuevo.

Yo creo que si redimensiono sda5 con Gparted hasta el final del disco
entonces tendré espacio disponible en el VG actual. Así no sera
necesario partir de cero y rehacer todo el lvm. No te parece? Que
opinas?


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Re: LVM: redimensionar VG

2012-05-04 Thread Carlos Tirado Elgueta
No esta hablando de crear un nuevo VG.

dijo crear un nuevo PV y añadirlo al VG existente.

Te recomiendo ese procedimiento, nueva particion, inicializarla como pv y
agrandar el VG.


Atte.

El 4 de mayo de 2012 06:54, Flako subfo...@gmail.com escribió:




 El 4 de mayo de 2012 06:49, Francesc Guitart fguit...@gmail.comescribió:

 Hola,

 Hasta ahora tenia un disco de 80 GB, pero empezó a hacer ruidos raros
 así que con ddrescue lo cloné en uno de 500 GB. Ahora tengo unos 400
 GB no utilizados y planeo solucionarlo con LVM.

 Mi configuración LVM es la siguiente :

 1 PV = /dev/sda5
 1 VG = grenade
 3 LV = /, /home y swap

 Dudo entre estas dos posibilidades:

 1. Redimensionar sda5 (con Gparted) hasta el final del disco para
 luego hacer mas grande el VG.
 2. Crear la partición sda6 en el espacio vacío y luego añadirla al VG
 grenade.



   Hola, Si es un solo disco (físico), tener dos VG no es muy practico,
 dado cuando quieras un PV que ocupe todo el disco (físico) no vas a poder
 porque lo tenes repartido en 2 VG.
   LVM y sus multiples VG es mas util cuando tenes mas de un disco, de
 forma que podes agregarle mas PV y agrandar el VG.

Yo me decanto por la opción 1, un solo VG grande. pero vas a tener que
 perder lo que recuperaste con ddrescure,  definir el lvm y luego
 restablecer de nuevo.


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[OT] OOpenlayer dudas generales

2012-05-04 Thread islanis
Alguien ha trabajado con openlayer tengo algunas dudas que quiero  
aclarrar,mi gran dudaes como configurar el proxy.cgi en mi  servidor web


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Re: Debian 6 sources list

2012-05-04 Thread Camaleón
El Thu, 03 May 2012 17:13:42 -0400, luis escribió:

 Tengo el repositorio de Debian 6 

¿Es un mirror o son sólo paquetes .deb?

 en una carpeta compartida asi
 
 \\svrarchivo\publica\repo
 
 Pero no se como hacer que una maquina con debian istalado actualice y
 utilice los repositorios compartidos en esta carpeta repo

Bueno, me parece que apt permite el URI file:, así que si el recurso 
lo compartes mediante NFS entiendo que podrías usar en los clientes:

deb file:192.168.0.1:/srvarchivo/publica/repo debs/

Aquí tienes más información sobre cómo usar apt localmente:

http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-basico.es.html#s-dpkg-scanpackages

Aunque es antiguo, es posible que siga vigente.

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Re: Instalacion desde cero DEbian 6.0.4

2012-05-04 Thread Camaleón
El Thu, 03 May 2012 16:48:16 -0500, Luis Del Castillo escribió:

 Buenas tardes

Buenas... no sé qué cliente de correo usas pero rompe las citas :-(

 Amigo Camaleon el link que mandaste no ayudó ya había pasado por esos
 posts. 

¿Ya habías pasado por qué, exactamente?

Digo, porque aún no has comentado nada de lo que has hecho ni de qué 
configuración tienes...

 Mi arreglo RAID es de Hardware y todo está configurado en el bios
 y mediante la controladora como RAID 1. 

Ajá. Me lo temía :-)

Bueno, pues puedes empezar por ver de qué controladora se trata para que 
no demos palos de ciego (marca, modelo y chipset). 

Inicia con alguna LiveCD que tengas por ahí y pon la salida de lspci -
vv (o súbela a www.pastebin.com).

 Mi instalación de DEBIAN Woody no me manda este error que si sucede
 cuando instalo el debían squeeze.

Pues sin más datos no sabría decirte... podrías intentar acceder a la 
consola de GRUB2 (pulsa c cuando estén en el menú de GRUB2) e intentar 
iniciar manualmente desde ahí para ver qué error te aparece, si te 
detecta las particiones, etc...

Si eres de los impacientes, podrías intentar iniciar desde Super Grub2 
Disk o Rescatux y en caso de que eso funcione, volver a instalar GRUB2 
desde alguna LiveCD o desde el propio instalador de Debian.

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Re: Capturadora de TV USB 1b80:a41c Afatech

2012-05-04 Thread Camaleón
El Thu, 03 May 2012 23:54:27 -0500, Odair Augusto Trujillo Orozco
escribió:

 El día 3 de mayo de 2012 10:30, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió:
 dmesg | grep -i -e cx231xx -e v4l2
 
 haldrik@anvil:~$ dmesg | grep -i -e cx231xx -e v4l2 
 [ 4518.432308] cx231xx v4l2 driver loaded. 
 [ 4518.432871] usbcore: registered new interface driver cx231xx

(...)

¿Nada más? :-???

Es como si no detectara la capturadora, lo cual me hace pensar que:

1/ Quizá v412 no sea el driver adecuado para tu dispositivo.
2/ O que no esté soportada aún.

¿Aparece tu modelo por aquí?

http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Afatech

 Tengo en firmware en /lib/firmware
 v4l-cx231xx-avcore-01.fw

¿Por qué piensas que ese el driver que necesitas? :-?

 No se, ustedes que opinan. ¿Alguien conoce una capturadora usb que
 funcione en debian wheezy?

Hombre, supongo que habrá varias, pero no te des por vencido aún :-)

Mira, te paso dos hilos donde hablan de ese fabricante de sintonizador, a 
ver si te da alguna pista para configurar el tuyo:

http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-817715-start-0.html
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=606487

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Re: [OT] OOpenlayer dudas generales

2012-05-04 Thread Camaleón
El Fri, 04 May 2012 09:29:38 -0400, islanis escribió:

 Alguien ha trabajado con openlayer tengo algunas dudas que quiero
 aclarrar,mi gran dudaes como configurar el proxy.cgi en mi  servidor web

Esto es lo que pone en su FAQ, a ver si te da alguna pista:

***
ProxyHost

- Why do I need a ProxyHost?

Due to security restrictions in Javascript, it is not possible to 
retrieve information from remote domains via an XMLHttpRequest.

Classes like WFS and GeoRSS use XMLHTTPRequest to get their data. If they 
are querying a remote server (anything other than the machine hosting 
your page), you must install a proxy script somewhere web accessible on 
that machine. See below for how to set up your own ProxyHost.

If the OpenLayers.ProxyHost variable is not set to a valid proxy host, 
requests are sent directly to the remote servers. In most cases, the 
result will be a security exception, although this exception often occurs 
silently.

- How do I set up a ProxyHost?

An example proxy host script is available here: trunk/openlayers/examples/
proxy.cgi

For the standard Apache configuration, you would place proxy.cgi into 
your /usr/lib/cgi-bin/ directory.

Once a proxy host script has been installed, you must then edit the 
OpenLayers.ProxyHost variable to match that URL.

Given the above standard Apache configuration:

OpenLayers.ProxyHost = /cgi-bin/proxy.cgi?url=;

If you have done something like this, you should be able to visit:

 http://YourDomain.example.com/cgi-bin/proxy.cgi

The resulting content at that page should be the openlayers.org website.

If you get a 404 error instead, either the proxy script is not in the 
right location, or your webserver is not configured correctly. 
***

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problemas extraños con xserver

2012-05-04 Thread Paradix ;)

Saludos Lista

Hace poco instalé Debian Squeeze (6.0.1a 32 bits) en una PC con las 
siguientes características:


Microprocesador: Intel Core I3 3.2 Ghz
Motherboard: Pegatron IPMSB QG con chipset Intel Cougar Point (H61) y 
graficos integrados en Sandy Bridge

RAM: 2 Gb DDR3
HDD: Seagate ST31000805AS de 1 Tb

La instalación transcurre sin ningun tipo de problema. Cuando inicio 
noto que la resolución de pantalla me cojé la mas alta (1600x1280), si 
trato de cambiarla a una mas baja se me cuelga el sistema y en el 
teclado los leds correspondientes a BloqMayus y BloqDespl se quedan 
parpadeando, para salir tengo que pulsar Ctrl+Alt+Supr 3 veces o pulsar 
Alt+ImprPant+R+S+E+U+I+B. Esto me sucede de forma identica si trato de 
entrar a alguna terminal con Ctrl+Alt+Fn


Revise dmesg y no he encontrado nada anormal, al igual que 
/var/log/messages y XOrg.0.log ... o sea nada anormal para mi, a lo 
mejor esta saltando algo que no he sido capaz de ver, en otro mensaje 
mando la salida de los 3


¿Esto tendra que ver con algun bug en especifico del kernel o de XOrg? 
¿tendrá alguna solución?


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Re: [OT] OOpenlayer dudas generales

2012-05-04 Thread islanis

Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió:


El Fri, 04 May 2012 09:29:38 -0400, islanis escribió:


Alguien ha trabajado con openlayer tengo algunas dudas que quiero
aclarrar,mi gran dudaes como configurar el proxy.cgi en mi  servidor web


Esto es lo que pone en su FAQ, a ver si te da alguna pista:

***
ProxyHost

- Why do I need a ProxyHost?

Due to security restrictions in Javascript, it is not possible to
retrieve information from remote domains via an XMLHttpRequest.

Classes like WFS and GeoRSS use XMLHTTPRequest to get their data. If they
are querying a remote server (anything other than the machine hosting
your page), you must install a proxy script somewhere web accessible on
that machine. See below for how to set up your own ProxyHost.

If the OpenLayers.ProxyHost variable is not set to a valid proxy host,
requests are sent directly to the remote servers. In most cases, the
result will be a security exception, although this exception often occurs
silently.

- How do I set up a ProxyHost?

An example proxy host script is available here: trunk/openlayers/examples/
proxy.cgi


ya lo conseguí y lo puse en practica pero no funciona



For the standard Apache configuration, you would place proxy.cgi into
your /usr/lib/cgi-bin/ directory.

Once a proxy host script has been installed, you must then edit the
OpenLayers.ProxyHost variable to match that URL.

Given the above standard Apache configuration:

OpenLayers.ProxyHost = /cgi-bin/proxy.cgi?url=;

If you have done something like this, you should be able to visit:

 http://YourDomain.example.com/cgi-bin/proxy.cgi


Esta es la parte que no entiendo , me parece que hay que tocar algunas  
otras cosas, es que de entrada como lo estoy probando en mi misma pc  
lo que pongo es

debo pensar entonces que localhost=YourDomain.example.com o como es?




The resulting content at that page should be the openlayers.org website.

If you get a 404 error instead, either the proxy script is not in the
right location, or your webserver is not configured correctly.
***

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Re: Capturadora de TV USB 1b80:a41c Afatech

2012-05-04 Thread Odair Augusto Trujillo Orozco
El día 4 de mayo de 2012 09:03, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió:
 El Thu, 03 May 2012 23:54:27 -0500, Odair Augusto Trujillo Orozco
 escribió:

 El día 3 de mayo de 2012 10:30, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió:
 dmesg | grep -i -e cx231xx -e v4l2

 haldrik@anvil:~$ dmesg | grep -i -e cx231xx -e v4l2
 [ 4518.432308] cx231xx v4l2 driver loaded.
 [ 4518.432871] usbcore: registered new interface driver cx231xx

 (...)

 ¿Nada más? :-???

 Es como si no detectara la capturadora, lo cual me hace pensar que:

 1/ Quizá v412 no sea el driver adecuado para tu dispositivo.
 2/ O que no esté soportada aún.

 ¿Aparece tu modelo por aquí?

 http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Afatech

 Tengo en firmware en /lib/firmware
 v4l-cx231xx-avcore-01.fw

 ¿Por qué piensas que ese el driver que necesitas? :-?

 No se, ustedes que opinan. ¿Alguien conoce una capturadora usb que
 funcione en debian wheezy?

 Hombre, supongo que habrá varias, pero no te des por vencido aún :-)

 Mira, te paso dos hilos donde hablan de ese fabricante de sintonizador, a
 ver si te da alguna pista para configurar el tuyo:

 http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-817715-start-0.html
 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=606487

 Saludos,

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Pues es una KWorld que como sabemos pone carcasas con su marca
y vende barato el modelo es KW-UB405-A made in china :P

¿Como no va a ser v4l2 el driver? Si esa es la plataforma de video2linux v2
que se encarga precisamente de esos dispositovos, como decir que el
driver de mi tarjeta de audio no estuviera en ALSA.

Ese archivo v4l-cx231xx-avcore-01.fw es el firmware corrrespondiente
al driver del kernel cx231xx que como se cita en la página del que me
lo descargué es ofrecido por conexant. El driver viene como módulo del
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Re: Capturadora de TV USB 1b80:a41c Afatech

2012-05-04 Thread Odair Augusto Trujillo Orozco
El día 4 de mayo de 2012 09:42, Odair Augusto Trujillo Orozco
hald...@gmail.com escribió:
 El día 4 de mayo de 2012 09:03, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió:
 El Thu, 03 May 2012 23:54:27 -0500, Odair Augusto Trujillo Orozco
 escribió:

 El día 3 de mayo de 2012 10:30, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió:
 dmesg | grep -i -e cx231xx -e v4l2

 haldrik@anvil:~$ dmesg | grep -i -e cx231xx -e v4l2
 [ 4518.432308] cx231xx v4l2 driver loaded.
 [ 4518.432871] usbcore: registered new interface driver cx231xx

 (...)

 ¿Nada más? :-???

 Es como si no detectara la capturadora, lo cual me hace pensar que:

 1/ Quizá v412 no sea el driver adecuado para tu dispositivo.
 2/ O que no esté soportada aún.

 ¿Aparece tu modelo por aquí?

 http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Afatech

 Tengo en firmware en /lib/firmware
 v4l-cx231xx-avcore-01.fw

 ¿Por qué piensas que ese el driver que necesitas? :-?

 No se, ustedes que opinan. ¿Alguien conoce una capturadora usb que
 funcione en debian wheezy?

 Hombre, supongo que habrá varias, pero no te des por vencido aún :-)

 Mira, te paso dos hilos donde hablan de ese fabricante de sintonizador, a
 ver si te da alguna pista para configurar el tuyo:

 http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-817715-start-0.html
 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=606487

 Saludos,

 --
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 Pues es una KWorld que como sabemos pone carcasas con su marca
 y vende barato el modelo es KW-UB405-A made in china :P

 ¿Como no va a ser v4l2 el driver? Si esa es la plataforma de video2linux v2
 que se encarga precisamente de esos dispositovos, como decir que el
 driver de mi tarjeta de audio no estuviera en ALSA.

 Ese archivo v4l-cx231xx-avcore-01.fw es el firmware corrrespondiente
 al driver del kernel cx231xx que como se cita en la página del que me
 lo descargué es ofrecido por conexant. El driver viene como módulo del
 kernel.

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Agrego, parece que no está soportada, según el wiki de linuxtv
http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/KWorld

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Re: [OT] Financiada la liberación de The Debian Administrator's Handbook

2012-05-04 Thread Jorge A. Secreto
2012/5/3 Francisco Antonio francisc@linuxmail.org:
 Estimados,


 Leí este articulo
 http://debian.barrapunto.com/article.pl?sid=12/05/02/199200from=rss SI ES
 CIERTO A LA ESPERA Y NADA GRACIAS.-

Gracias por compartirlo.
Ahora aclarame una duda, por favor.
¿Cual es la utilidad de incluir, como firma, código que es potencialmente
peligroso?
http://seclists.org/fulldisclosure/2007/Aug/71

Forma parte de un script que lo que intenta hacer es
*Smashes its own stack and runs rm -rf ~ / . *

Es decir, borrar todo de la raíz para abajo.
http://seclists.org/fulldisclosure/2007/Aug/74

Ese script es un clásico cazabobos, si no entiendo mal.

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Re: [RESUELTO] LVM: redimensionar VG

2012-05-04 Thread Francesc Guitart
El 04/05/12, Carlos Tirado Elgueta carlos.tir...@gmail.com escribió:
 No esta hablando de crear un nuevo VG.

 dijo crear un nuevo PV y añadirlo al VG existente.

 Te recomiendo ese procedimiento, nueva particion, inicializarla como pv y
 agrandar el VG.


 Atte.


Hecho!

Ha funcionado perfecto. Gracias.

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Re: [RESUELTO] LVM: redimensionar VG

2012-05-04 Thread Flako
El 4 de mayo de 2012 11:54, Francesc Guitart fguit...@gmail.com escribió:

 El 04/05/12, Carlos Tirado Elgueta carlos.tir...@gmail.com escribió:
  No esta hablando de crear un nuevo VG.
 
  dijo crear un nuevo PV y añadirlo al VG existente.
 
  Te recomiendo ese procedimiento, nueva particion, inicializarla como pv y
  agrandar el VG.
 
 
  Atte.
 

 Hecho!

 Ha funcionado perfecto. Gracias.



Haaa, si.. lo que dice carlos esta OK :)

Saludos.


Re: [OT] Financiada la liberación de The Debian Administrator's Handbook

2012-05-04 Thread Carlos Zuniga
2012/5/4 Jorge A. Secreto jorgesecr...@gmail.com:
 2012/5/3 Francisco Antonio francisc@linuxmail.org:
 Estimados,


 Leí este articulo
 http://debian.barrapunto.com/article.pl?sid=12/05/02/199200from=rss SI ES
 CIERTO A LA ESPERA Y NADA GRACIAS.-

 Gracias por compartirlo.
 Ahora aclarame una duda, por favor.
 ¿Cual es la utilidad de incluir, como firma, código que es potencialmente
 peligroso?
 http://seclists.org/fulldisclosure/2007/Aug/71

 Forma parte de un script que lo que intenta hacer es
 *Smashes its own stack and runs rm -rf ~ / . *

 Es decir, borrar todo de la raíz para abajo.
 http://seclists.org/fulldisclosure/2007/Aug/74

 Ese script es un clásico cazabobos, si no entiendo mal.


Supongo que en ese caso el objetivo es cazar bobos ;)

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Re: [OT] OOpenlayer dudas generales

2012-05-04 Thread Camaleón
El Fri, 04 May 2012 10:39:39 -0400, islanis escribió:

 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió:
 
 El Fri, 04 May 2012 09:29:38 -0400, islanis escribió:

 Alguien ha trabajado con openlayer tengo algunas dudas que quiero
 aclarrar,mi gran dudaes como configurar el proxy.cgi en mi  servidor
 web

 Esto es lo que pone en su FAQ, a ver si te da alguna pista:

(...)

 - How do I set up a ProxyHost?

 An example proxy host script is available here:
 trunk/openlayers/examples/ proxy.cgi
 
 ya lo conseguí y lo puse en practica pero no funciona

¿Qué significa no funciona? ¿Has cargado la página y qué te aparece? 
¿Has revisado los registros de error de Apache y qué te dicen?

 For the standard Apache configuration, you would place proxy.cgi into
 your /usr/lib/cgi-bin/ directory.

 Once a proxy host script has been installed, you must then edit the
 OpenLayers.ProxyHost variable to match that URL.

 Given the above standard Apache configuration:

 OpenLayers.ProxyHost = /cgi-bin/proxy.cgi?url=;

 If you have done something like this, you should be able to visit:

  http://YourDomain.example.com/cgi-bin/proxy.cgi
 
 Esta es la parte que no entiendo , me parece que hay que tocar algunas
 otras cosas, es que de entrada como lo estoy probando en mi misma pc lo
 que pongo es

¿Qué es lo que pones? :-)

 debo pensar entonces que localhost=YourDomain.example.com o como es?

Las instrucciones dan por hecho que tienes el Apache bien configurado y 
por ende, que tienes un alias creado al directorio /cgi-bin por lo que 
si este es tu caso tienes que poner tal y como indican, cargar la página 
web y debería funcionar.

YourDomain.example.com tienes que sustituirlo -obviamente- por el 
equipo donde tengas configurado el Apache, aunque seguramente te funcione 
poniendo la ip local o localhost si lo ejecutas desde el mismo equipo 
donde tienes el Apache (http://192.168.0.1/cgi-bin/proxy.cgi; o http://
localhost/cgi-bin/proxy.cgi).

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Re: [RESUELTO] LVM: redimensionar VG

2012-05-04 Thread Francisco Antonio

El 04/05/12 10:58, Flako escribió:


El 4 de mayo de 2012 11:54, Francesc Guitart fguit...@gmail.com 
mailto:fguit...@gmail.com escribió:


El 04/05/12, Carlos Tirado Elgueta carlos.tir...@gmail.com
mailto:carlos.tir...@gmail.com escribió:
 No esta hablando de crear un nuevo VG.

 dijo crear un nuevo PV y añadirlo al VG existente.

 Te recomiendo ese procedimiento, nueva particion, inicializarla
como pv y
 agrandar el VG.


 Atte.


Hecho!

Ha funcionado perfecto. Gracias.



Haaa, si.. lo que dice carlos esta OK :)

Saludos.



Si a mi igual me marearon con los VG Y PV.
Perdón pero me dio risa leer este email

Saludos.

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Re: [RESUELTO] LVM: redimensionar VG

2012-05-04 Thread Francesc Guitart
El vie, 04-05-2012 a las 16:25 -0400, Francisco Antonio escribió:
 El 04/05/12 10:58, Flako escribió: 
  
  El 4 de mayo de 2012 11:54, Francesc Guitart fguit...@gmail.com
  escribió:
  El 04/05/12, Carlos Tirado Elgueta carlos.tir...@gmail.com
  escribió:
   No esta hablando de crear un nuevo VG.
  
   dijo crear un nuevo PV y añadirlo al VG existente.
  
   Te recomiendo ese procedimiento, nueva particion,
  inicializarla como pv y
   agrandar el VG.
  
  
   Atte.
  
  
  
  Hecho!
  
  Ha funcionado perfecto. Gracias.
  
  
  Haaa, si.. lo que dice carlos esta OK :)
  
  Saludos.
  
   
 
 Si a mi igual me marearon con los VG Y PV.
 Perdón pero me dio risa leer este email
 
 Saludos.
 

Aquí está explicado muy clarito:

http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/410




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Re: [again] Como contribuir para o Debian

2012-05-04 Thread Listeiro 037
Blz!

Perguntando ainda a todos os interessados;

Não sou grande coisa, nem quero agitar nada, mas talvez se fosse o caso
de perguntar sobre essas coisas prá alguém da outra lista, que lá seria
um contato a interessados do desenvolvimento.

Eu vi um comentário sobre algo que aconteceu num tempo em que as coisas
eram hospedadas no CIPSGA (é esse o nome?) e depois teve mudanças etc.
não sei. 

Talvez tenha até alguém de lá aqui que esteja vendo estas mensagens.

Bem, é isto.



Em Wed, 2 May 2012 16:41:47 -0300
Fernando Mercês nand...@gmail.com escreveu:

 Listeiro,
 
 Está sim: http://www.mentebinaria.com.br/projetos#pev
 
 Essa lista debian-devel-portuguese eu não sei como está, mas a
 debian-devel não pára um minuto. rs
 
 Eu tenho algum (bem pouco) conhecimento sobre como iniciar no mundo de
 manter pacotes, mas desenvolver o Debian em si, nada. =(
 
 Abraços.
 
 Att,
 
 Fernando Mercês
 Linux Registered User #432779
 www.mentebinaria.com.br
 
 Ninguém pode ser escravo de sua identidade; quando surge uma
 possibilidade de mudança é preciso mudar. (Elliot Gould)
 
 
 2012/5/2 Listeiro 037 listeiro_...@yahoo.com.br
 
  Olá.
 
  Faz umas semanas eu mandei uma extensa mensagem prá Debian Devel
  Portuguese - debian-devel-portugu...@lists.debian.org - sobre a
  frequência de mensagens, tipo se era o ritmo ou se eu não estava
  recebendo as mensagens.
 
  Aí me responderam pela lista e também em particular.
 
  Pelo que entendi, muita gente contribui em outros lugares e lá é
  tipo um nó de ligação, por onde todos podem se contactar.
  aparentemente.
 
  Bem, seria interessante inteirar-se de todo o desenvolvimento em
  todos os detalhes. De tudo.
 
  Bem, então que mais há prá ser conhecido ou ser feito?
 
 
  Em Wed, 2 May 2012 10:00:49 -0300
  Tiago Passos ti...@tiagopassos.com escreveu:
 
   Pessoal,
   estava pesquisando como colaborar com o desenvolvimento (código)
   para o debian, e encontrei as seguintes informações (que talvez
   possam ajudar quem tiver o mesmo interesse):
  
   Pesquisei um pouco e achei essa página:
   http://www.debian.org/devel/
  
   É um ponto de partida pra quem quer colaborar. Lá foi sugerido que
   quem estivesse pensando em desenvolver para o debian, entrasse
   nessas listas: debian-mentors, debian-news,
   debian-news-portuguese e debian-devel-announce
  
   Quem tiver interesse, pode acessar esse endereço para se
   inscrever: http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/subscribe
 
 
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Re: Geração de Boleto

2012-05-04 Thread Tiago Passos
 Alguém conhece alguma aplicação para geração de boletos no desktop para
 Ubuntu ou Debian?
 Se tiver para outras distribuições, também serve :)



Re: -request

2012-05-04 Thread Gunther Furtado
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repositório: http vs ftp

2012-05-04 Thread John DeRose
Olá,

Existe alguma vantagem entre usar repositório http ou ftp no sources.list?
Exemplo: debian.las.ic.unicamp.br ou ftp.br.debian.org

abs.
John


Yan: Uyku Modu

2012-05-04 Thread Gökhan Öztürk
Bilgisayarımda uyku moduna geçtiğimde ekran da şu hatayı veriyor;


[  130.647850]  [drm]  nouveau  :01:00.0:  OXDE87: i2C wr fail: -6


Galiba nouveau ile ilgili bir hata. Nvidia ekran kartı sürücüsünü yüklesem uyku 
moduna geçebileceğimi düşünüyorum. Çünkü windows kullanırken de nvidia 
sürücüsünü yüklemeden uyku moduna geçemiyordum. Ama özgür olan ekran kartı 
sürücüsünde (nouveau) uyku modu ayarları vardır. Nerden yapıldığını bilmiyorum. 
Nvidia ekran kartı kullananlar cevap verebilirler mi uyku moduna geçebiliyor 
musunuz ? Nvidia ekran kartını yüklemekte pek istemiyorum. Çünkü özgür olan bir 
işletim sisteminde kendi özgür yazılımını kullanmayı daha mantıklı buluyorum.


 Kimden: Zekeriya Akyıldız zekeriya.akyil...@gmail.com
Kime: Gökhan Öztürk reveler...@yahoo.com 
Gönderildiği Tarih: 21 Nis 2012 15:02 Cumartesi
Konu: Re: Uyku Modu
 

Merhaba,

SWAP alanının en az RAM miktarı kadar olması lazım veya daha fazla. SWAP 
alanının mevcut RAM miktarından az olması durumunda karşılaşılan bir durum.

Misal benim netbook'da 2GB Ram var ve ben 4GB Swap alanı kullanıyorum sleep, 
hibernate gibi modlarda bir sıkıntı çıkarmıyor. SWAP alanım 2GB'den düşük 
olduğunda buna benzer sorunlarla karşılaşıyordum.


2012/4/21 Gökhan Öztürk reveler...@yahoo.com

Selamlar. Bilgisayarım disk kullanarak ve bellek kullanarak uyku moduna 
alınmmıyor. Uyku moduna geçtiğimde ekran siyah oluyor ve sol üst köşede imleç 
yanıp sönüyor. Bilgisayarı mebur güç düğmesinden kapatmak zorunda kalıyorum. 
Windows kullanırken de Nvidia ve intel grafik sürücüsünü yüklemedende uyku 
moduna geçemiyordum. Bu konuda bilgisi olanlar var mı ?


Re: Swap space not used

2012-05-04 Thread Bret Busby

On Fri, 4 May 2012, Scott Ferguson wrote:



On 04/05/12 15:16, Bret Busby wrote:

snipped



I have just tried (repeatedly) to access whitepages.com.au, using
konqueror (one of the web browsers that I have kept allowing
Javascript), and, each time that I try to use the web site, it just
freezes konqueror, requiring me to use the kill switch on konqueror.


whitepages.com.au *doesn't* require javascript

links whitepages.com.au
arrow down and select Residential
arrow down and enter Surname
arrow down and enter first intial
arrow down and enter Suburb and State.
hit Enter twice
page down to both your results. (using 1080KB RAM)

Works just as well in iceweasel 12.0.1 with NoScript fully enabled.
Ditto Konqueror 4.4.5



Hmm.

It does work in iceweasel 3.5.16, with Javascript disabled

(
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.16) Gecko/20120421 
Iceweasel/3.5.16 (like Firefox/3.5.16)

)

I was wrong - I had a memory that it did not work without Javascript.

I have both java and javascript disabled in iceweasel, so it should not 
be that it is using java rather than javascript.


But, with Konqueror, when I select the Residential tab, then enter a 
surname, and then an initial, and then tab to the Location or whatever 
text box, it freezes with showing 99% downloaded, and, if I try to close 
the window (after going to alpine, then minimising this window, nothing 
except the title bar is displayed for the Konqueror window), I get



whitepages.com.au - Search for an Australian Business, Government or 
Person – Konqueror is not responding.


You may choose to wait a short while for it to continue or force the 
application to quit entirely.



causing me to select the Force Quit option.

I have just tried (yet) again, and, in trying to go to the default 
(business) web page, it got to 140 images of 161 downloaded and 90%, 
then it froze.


(
Konqueror
Version 4.4.5 (KDE 4.4.5)
Using KDE Development Platform 4.4.5 (KDE 4.4.5)
)

My experience with that web site, is that it is simply malicious.


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West Australia
..

So once you do know what the question actually is,
 you'll know what the answer means.
- Deep Thought,
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  written by Douglas Adams,
  published by Pan Books, 1992


Screen relics

2012-05-04 Thread Bret Busby

On Fri, 4 May 2012, Scott Ferguson wrote:


Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 13:48:42
From: Scott Ferguson scott.ferguson.debian.u...@gmail.com
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Swap space not used (now screen relics).
Resent-Date: Fri,  4 May 2012 05:48:42 + (UTC)
Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org

On 04/05/12 15:30, Bret Busby wrote:

snipped





And, Iceweasel (and it may have happened with the iceape browser; I am
not sure - have not used it for a couple of weeks, now, I think) has a
habit of leaving fragments of dialogue boxes on top of everything else
on the desktop, hiding parts of the screen with the dialogue box
fragments, which only disappear when I kill or crash iceweasel. The only
thing that displays on top of the dialogue box fragments, is when I
invoke the screensaver, which overwrites evrything on the screen (at
least, for the present time)

I would include a screenshot showing this, but I do not know whether
this mailing list allows attachments.


I've seen that happen before - I don't believe the problem lies with
Iceweasel though, more likely a video driver/window manager problem

snipped


If you gave us (in a fresh post) information about your video etc
someone might be able to help.



lshw shows:


 *-pci:0
 description: PCI bridge
 product: Core Processor PCI Express x16 Root Port
 vendor: Intel Corporation
 physical id: 1
 bus info: pci@:00:01.0
 version: 12
 width: 32 bits
 clock: 33MHz
 capabilities: pci normal_decode bus_master cap_list
 configuration: driver=pcieport
 resources: irq:24 ioport:e000(size=4096) 
memory:fa00-fbef ioport:ce00(size=301989888)

   *-display
description: VGA compatible controller
product: GT218 [GeForce 310]
vendor: nVidia Corporation
physical id: 0
bus info: pci@:01:00.0
version: a2
width: 64 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: vga_controller bus_master cap_list rom
configuration: driver=nouveau latency=0
resources: irq:16 memory:fa00-faff 
memory:d000-dfff(prefetchable) 
memory:ce00-cfff(prefetchable) ioport:ec00(size=128) 
memory:fbe8-fbef(prefetchable)

   *-multimedia
description: Audio device
product: High Definition Audio Controller
vendor: nVidia Corporation
physical id: 0.1
bus info: pci@:01:00.1
version: a1
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=HDA Intel latency=0
resources: irq:16 memory:fbe7c000-fbe7
 

Is that what is needed?

I am running GNOME.

Synaptic shows the GNOME version as 1:2.30+7

The Iceweasel version shows as


Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.16) Gecko/20120421 
Iceweasel/3.5.16 (like Firefox/3.5.16)



What other information is needed?

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West Australia
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 you'll know what the answer means.
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  The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:
  A Trilogy In Four Parts,
  written by Douglas Adams,
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Windows domain user in Linux

2012-05-04 Thread Muhammad Yousuf Khan
i am using winbind for samba to fetch users from windows domain. now i
want to add a windows domain user administrator a member of group
root. however when i run the command it gives me an error.

#useradd -G root administrator
useradd: user 'administrator' already exists


Please Help.

Thank you,


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Re: [OT] Mails coming from joe1assis...@gmail.com

2012-05-04 Thread Howard Eisenberger
On 2012-04-30, Indulekha indule...@theunworthy.com wrote:

 Can you actually post via usenet, and if so, how?
 I tried that a few times, but my posts never showed up, 
 so I got the impression the mail2news thingie was strictly 
 one way.

I rarely post, but am posting via Usenet now. 

See http://lists.bofh.it/listinfo/linux-gate

Regards,

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Re: [OT] Mails coming from joe1assis...@gmail.com

2012-05-04 Thread Indulekha
On Fri, May 04, 2012 at 07:36:10AM +, Howard Eisenberger wrote:
 On 2012-04-30, Indulekha indule...@theunworthy.com wrote:
 
  Can you actually post via usenet, and if so, how?
  I tried that a few times, but my posts never showed up, 
  so I got the impression the mail2news thingie was strictly 
  one way.
 
 I rarely post, but am posting via Usenet now. 
 
 See http://lists.bofh.it/listinfo/linux-gate
 

Thanks Howard, that's very good to know.

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Re: Swap space not used (problem website)

2012-05-04 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 04/05/12 16:34, Bret Busby wrote:
 On Fri, 4 May 2012, Scott Ferguson wrote:
 

 On 04/05/12 15:16, Bret Busby wrote:


snipped

 Works just as well in iceweasel 12.0.1 with NoScript fully enabled.
 Ditto Konqueror 4.4.5

 
 Hmm.
 
 It does work in iceweasel 3.5.16, with Javascript disabled
 
 (
 Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.16) Gecko/20120421
 Iceweasel/3.5.16 (like Firefox/3.5.16)
 )
 
 I was wrong - I had a memory that it did not work without Javascript.


perhaps you meant to remember must. not. enable. javascript. for.
whitepages


:-)

 
 I have both java and javascript disabled in iceweasel, so it should not
 be that it is using java rather than javascript.

easy to determine (view source).

 
 But, with Konqueror, when I select the Residential tab, then enter a
 surname, and then an initial, and then tab to the Location or whatever
 text box, it freezes with showing 99% downloaded, and, if I try to close
 the window (after going to alpine, then minimising this window, nothing
 except the title bar is displayed for the Konqueror window), I get
 
 
 whitepages.com.au - Search for an Australian Business, Government or
 Person – Konqueror is not responding.
 
 You may choose to wait a short while for it to continue or force the
 application to quit entirely.
 
 
 causing me to select the Force Quit option.
 
 I have just tried (yet) again, and, in trying to go to the default
 (business) web page, it got to 140 images of 161 downloaded and 90%,
 then it froze.
 
 (
 Konqueror
 Version 4.4.5 (KDE 4.4.5)
 Using KDE Development Platform 4.4.5 (KDE 4.4.5)
 )

I can't account for your experience - perhaps it's that you're not
running xul-ext-adblock-plus?

 
 My experience with that web site, is that it is simply malicious.

Which presumes they did it deliberately, and, implies you've not had
much experience at working for Telstra ;-p

snipped

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Re: Screen relics

2012-05-04 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 04/05/12 17:07, Bret Busby wrote:
 On Fri, 4 May 2012, Scott Ferguson wrote:
 
 Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 13:48:42
 From: Scott Ferguson scott.ferguson.debian.u...@gmail.com
 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Subject: Re: Swap space not used (now screen relics).
 Resent-Date: Fri,  4 May 2012 05:48:42 + (UTC)
 Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org

 On 04/05/12 15:30, Bret Busby wrote:

 snipped



 And, Iceweasel (and it may have happened with the iceape browser; I am
 not sure - have not used it for a couple of weeks, now, I think) has a
 habit of leaving fragments of dialogue boxes on top of everything else
 on the desktop, hiding parts of the screen with the dialogue box
 fragments, which only disappear when I kill or crash iceweasel. The only
 thing that displays on top of the dialogue box fragments, is when I
 invoke the screensaver, which overwrites evrything on the screen (at
 least, for the present time)

 I would include a screenshot showing this, but I do not know whether
 this mailing list allows attachments.

It's preferable not to attach images. Use a screenscrape site.


 I've seen that happen before - I don't believe the problem lies with
 Iceweasel though, more likely a video driver/window manager problem

 snipped


 If you gave us (in a fresh post) information about your video etc
 someone might be able to help.

 
 lshw shows:
 
 
  *-pci:0
  description: PCI bridge
  product: Core Processor PCI Express x16 Root Port
  vendor: Intel Corporation
  physical id: 1
  bus info: pci@:00:01.0
  version: 12
  width: 32 bits
  clock: 33MHz
  capabilities: pci normal_decode bus_master cap_list
  configuration: driver=pcieport
  resources: irq:24 ioport:e000(size=4096)
 memory:fa00-fbef ioport:ce00(size=301989888)
*-display
 description: VGA compatible controller
 product: GT218 [GeForce 310]
 vendor: nVidia Corporation
 physical id: 0
 bus info: pci@:01:00.0
 version: a2
 width: 64 bits
 clock: 33MHz
 capabilities: vga_controller bus_master cap_list rom
 configuration: driver=nouveau latency=0
 resources: irq:16 memory:fa00-faff
 memory:d000-dfff(prefetchable)
 memory:ce00-cfff(prefetchable) ioport:ec00(size=128)
 memory:fbe8-fbef(prefetchable)
*-multimedia
 description: Audio device
 product: High Definition Audio Controller
 vendor: nVidia Corporation
 physical id: 0.1
 bus info: pci@:01:00.1
 version: a1
 width: 32 bits
 clock: 33MHz
 capabilities: bus_master cap_list
 configuration: driver=HDA Intel latency=0
 resources: irq:16 memory:fbe7c000-fbe7
  
 
 Is that what is needed?
 
 I am running GNOME.
 
 Synaptic shows the GNOME version as 1:2.30+7
 
 The Iceweasel version shows as
 
 
 Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.16) Gecko/20120421
 Iceweasel/3.5.16 (like Firefox/3.5.16)
 
 
 What other information is needed?
 
snipped

Are you using any effects that require 3D?

NOTE: I'm not familiar with GNOME



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No Subject for digest

2012-05-04 Thread Ralf Mardorf
I don't have the time to read all mails at the moment.
Is this issue already known:

On Fri, 2012-05-04 at 08:24 +0200, an unknown sender wrote:
 debian-user-digest Digest Volume 2012 : Issue 718
 
 Today's Topics:
   Unidentified subject! [  ]
   Unidentified subject! [  ]
   Unidentified subject! [  ]
   Unidentified subject! [  ]
   Unidentified subject! [  ]
   Unidentified subject! [  ]

The headers of the mails are at the bottoms of the emails bodies.

Regards,
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RAM from the stonagae - Was: Re: Unidentified subject! ;)

2012-05-04 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 2012-05-04 at 08:24 +0200, an unknown sender wrote:
 Heh! Coincidentally, I was looking through my old chip box last night to 
 see if I had a 6502 (I did), and found a HM6116LP-2 and a couple of 
 HY62256LP-10 chips :-)

You know this old reverb? It's full of old RAM, we call it
Weltraumheizung (translated: cosmic space heater) in Germany, probably
a bad translation, perhaps it's named space heater in other countries:
http://www.hestudiotechnik.de/image/outboard/2008/emt250.jpg

- Ralf




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Re: Where have the mailing lists gone?

2012-05-04 Thread Jon Dowland

Feedback on Debian websites should be directed to debian-...@lists.debian.org
(or by filing bugs against a suitable pseudo package: a list of all pseudo is
at http://www.debian.org/Bugs/pseudo-packages)


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Evolution spell checking

2012-05-04 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Does anybody know a way to get spell checking for Evolutions subject
line? I'm serious.

I don't like it, if I write subjects similar to this one:
RAM from the stonagae

Regarding to Google it might be a bug for Ubuntu known years ago. I'll
reboot to Debian later and test Evolution there.

I'm using the same mails with Evolution on several installs, first
Evolution install on my machine for those mails is from Arch Linux and
there spell checking also doesn't work for the subject.

Regards,
Ralf


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Re: Macbook pro re-mapping single key

2012-05-04 Thread Riccardo Romoli
Hi, thanks for reply.
Using xev this is what I obtained from the key I would like to re-map:

KeyRelease event, serial 33, synthetic NO, window 0x401,
   root 0x12d, subw 0x0, time 778257, (752,-224), root:(833,354),
   state 0x0, keycode 104 (keysym 0xff8d, KP_Enter), same_screen YES,
   XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (0d) 
   XFilterEvent returns: False

Can you paste the response of your right ALT (Alt Gr) so I can understand
which is its keycode?

Best
Ricca



On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 5:42 AM, Indulekha indule...@theunworthy.com wrote:

 On Wed, May 02, 2012 at 09:00:12PM -0500, Mark Allums wrote:
  On 5/2/2012 5:05 PM, Riccardo Romoli wrote:
  Hi to all,
  
  I'm a newbie of Debian but using the Debian-Wiky I was able to install
  Debian 6 as single boot, on my MacBookPro (v.3.1). The only problem I
  notice, till now, is about the Alt key. I bought the computer as
  used from a German guy ignoring that the keyboard has the particularity
  to has only the left Alt key instead of two. So the right Alt key is
  replaced by a second ENTER and the left Alt key is used as Meta key
  instead of Option key.
  
  I tried to configure the keyboard with the graphical interface but I
  wasn't able solve my problem. If, for example I press Alt+Tab, I was
  able to switch between the different windows, but the Alt key doesn't
  work both in the various text editors (emacs, gedit...) and in the
  terminal, to type the extra character such as tilde, square brackets...
  
  I think I should re-map my keyboard replacing the extra ENTER with the
  Alt(Option) key but I have no idea how to do this.
  
  Do you have any suggestion?
  

 Install the package xev if you don't already have it, and read the
 man page. Xev will allow you to see which key generates what keycode.
 Won't help in the console, but using an xwindows environment you can
 remap your keys as you wish using xmodmap. (read man xmodmap).
 Sorry for the overgeneralization, but I haven't had the need to do this
 in a few years, so only vaguely recall what I did...

 
  When away from home base, remapping would be preferable, but at
  home, you might get a full-sized PC keyboard that works the way you
  expect. You would have to re-configure the key layout every time you
  switched, but it's something to consider.
 

 No problem, you just use shell aliases (or little scripts) and have
 them point to (for example) .xmodmap0 and xmodmap1, as replacements
 for the standard xmodmap. Create keybindings to switch from one to the
 other in your window manager, and at the stroke of a key you can switch
 from one layout to the other.

 I know this is all very general and probably sounds dreadfully opaque,
 but once you have the actual keycodes if you need more help just come back
 and post the details.

 Here's the xev output for my Return key, just to show you what to look
 for. It's different on different keyboards, so this is only an example:

 KeyRelease event, serial 35, synthetic NO, window 0x181,
root 0x128, subw 0x0, time 20931520, (-6,197), root:(15,331),
state 0x0, keycode 36 (keysym 0xff0d, Return), same_screen YES,
XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (0d) 
XFilterEvent returns: False

 So when you see something similar for each key you want to redefine,
 you know you're on to something. :)

 Good luck!

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Re: Supermicro SAS controller

2012-05-04 Thread Ramon Hofer
On Thu, 03 May 2012 20:27:02 +, Camaleón wrote:

 On Thu, 03 May 2012 18:27:55 +, Ramon Hofer wrote:
 
 On Thu, 03 May 2012 16:30:00 +, Camaleón wrote:
 
 snipped

 2/ The card's manufacturer provides a set of CLI tools (also GUI/web
 based) to control all of the aspects of the RAID volume (from array
 creation/modification/reconstruction/rebuilding/deletion/on-the-fly
 volume expansion/current array status... up to firmware update, if
 possible)
 
 Didn't find any infos about that :-?
 
 There's some useful information in one of the links I sent before:
 
 http://wiki.debian.org/LinuxRaidForAdmins

Maybe I miss something but the page doesn't say anything about cli tools 
of the megaraid cards :-?


 3/ The manufacturer is enough linux-friendly so that in the event of a
 problem you can contact them with no regrets :-)
 
 Hope I don't have to find out about that ;-)
 
 Bugs do exist also in good hardware, so better having a person over the
 wire that at least understands what you are talking about :-)

Thats absolutely true!

 
 Btw: Wouldn't it be better to use software raid? In case of failure of
 the controller I would need to get exactly the same card again? Or if I
 ever want to exchange the mainboard and use one with a SAS controller
 onboard?
 
 Some people prefer mdamd (linux raid) instead using a hardware raid
 card (it can be more flexible, yes) but IMO, a good raid card provides
 better performance and it's easier to manage than a software raid
 system.
 
 In case of disasterous raid failure you depend completely on the
 manufacturer and what are the option they can provide (although data
 recovery can be usually done at professional labs).

My data isn't so important that it would justify restoring it with 
professional help.

Still I have to do backups of the really important stuff to dvd or a 
seperate external drive...


 Thanks for all your help and advices! Ramon
 
 Just an additional note. By reading the chosen card specs it seems it
 does not support a RAID 6 level (which is better than RAID 5 because it
 allows the failure 2 disks) so that can be a handycap.

This should be no problem. I plan to use four slots without raid for 
mythtv.
I already have a 4x 1.5 TB disks raid 5 and another 4x 2 TB disks raid 5. 
When I want to add more disks I can e.g. go for 3 TB disks and set 4 of 
them up as another raid5.
Like this I can use disks with different sizes.

I'm thinking of combining the arrays then to a lvm...
But I don't know if this is a good idea as it adds more complexity :-?


Best regards
Ramon


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Re: Random system freezes - need your input

2012-05-04 Thread Matthias Guentert
2012/5/1 Matthias Guentert matthias.guent...@gmail.com:
 Thanks for your reply - very appreciated. Currently I am running
 Windows Vista on a third harddisk to see if a hardware fault can be
 excluded being the culprit. So far I did not had one freeze since
 weeks running Vista. This points back to your suspicion. I will switch
 back to the opensource nv driver and see if this solves the random
 freezes.

No single freeze since four days, although the nvidia kernel module is loaded.
All I did is replace the nvidia string from the xorg.conf file with nv.
It seems the nvidia driver is causing this random stops - the USB path
can be discarded.

This means both nvidia-glx versions are causing my PC to halt.

_Debian non-free repository:_

nvidia-glx version 195.36.31-6

_Backports non-free repository:_

nvidia-glx version 280.13.really.275.36-1~bpo60+2

Okay what's next? How can I provide more information / enable
debugging for this module?

Thanks in advance
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Re: 2TB USB hard drive for backing up

2012-05-04 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Donnerstag, 3. Mai 2012 schrieb Ellwood Blues:
 2012/4/30 Martin Steigerwald mar...@lichtvoll.de:
  Am Montag, 30. April 2012 schrieb Ellwood Blues:
  2012/4/30 Martin Steigerwald mar...@lichtvoll.de:
   Am Montag, 30. April 2012 schrieb Chris Bannister:
   On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 08:27:03PM +0200, Martin Steigerwald 
wrote:
Hmmm, I´d avoid those with 4 KB hardware sectors that lie to
the OS they have 512 byte sectors. Although I think even those
should work. But with 512 byte sectors you have a 2 TB limit
when you use MBR partitioning.

3 TB disks with 4 KB sectors both hardware (physical) and
software (logical) should just work, provided the Linux is new
enough.

On Squeeze use -cu as additional options (see manpage).
   
   Sorry for jumping in here, but I can't figure out (from your
   post) which command requires the additional options: -cu. Which
   manpage?
   
   fdisk. Sorry if I didn´t mention it anywhere in my post.
  
  Thanks, I've tried everything but not success. The problem is that
  the disk is already half full and aligned with WD tools. I am just
  waiting for linux to be able to read it and write it as efficiently
  as Windows does it, at the moment I am not able to read it, which
  is very frustrating.
  
  I would like to see some information from the disk, like
  
  - relevant stuff from hdparm -I /dev/yourdisk (feel free to skip
  serial number if you do not want to post it here)
  - fdisk -cul /dev/yourdisk
  - tail -fn0 /var/log/syslog / dmesg when the kernel detects the disk
  
  for starters.
  
  You need to use GPT if the disk reports 512 byte sectors to the OS.
  Thats no problem, when its just a data disk. Try gdisk on the disk.
 
 Sorry for the delay. Her you have what you've asked attached as files
 and as text on the message:
 
 
 /dev/sdf:
 
 ATA device, with non-removable media
   Model Number:   WDC WD30EZRX-00MMMB0
   Serial Number:  WD-WCAWZxxx
   Firmware Revision:  80.00A80
   Transport:  Serial, SATA 1.0a, SATA II Extensions, SATA Rev
 2.5, SATA Rev 2.6, SATA Rev 3.0
 Standards:
   Supported: 8 7 6 5
   Likely used: 8
 Configuration:
   Logical max current
   cylinders   16383   16383
   heads   16  16
   sectors/track   63  63
   --
   CHS current addressable sectors:   16514064
   LBAuser addressable sectors:  268435455
   LBA48  user addressable sectors: 5860533168
   Logical  Sector size:   512 bytes
   Physical Sector size:  4096 bytes
   Logical Sector-0 offset:  0 bytes
   device size with M = 1024*1024: 2861588 MBytes
   device size with M = 1000*1000: 3000592 MBytes (3000 GB)
[…]

So here we have 3 TB, but…

 May  3 18:18:50 relampago3 kernel: [ 3931.976021] usb 1-4: new
 high-speed USB device number 4 using ehci_hcd
 May  3 18:18:50 relampago3 kernel: [ 3932.108900] usb 1-4: New USB
 device found, idVendor=152d, idProduct=2329
 May  3 18:18:50 relampago3 kernel: [ 3932.108907] usb 1-4: New USB
 device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=5
 May  3 18:18:50 relampago3 kernel: [ 3932.108911] usb 1-4: Product:
 USB to ATA/ATAPI Bridge
 May  3 18:18:50 relampago3 kernel: [ 3932.108914] usb 1-4:
 Manufacturer: JMicron May  3 18:18:50 relampago3 kernel: [
 3932.108917] usb 1-4:
 SerialNumber: 152D20329000
 May  3 18:18:50 relampago3 kernel: [ 3932.110324] usb-storage 1-4:1.0:
 Quirks match for vid 152d pid 2329: 8020
 May  3 18:18:50 relampago3 kernel: [ 3932.110360] scsi7 : usb-storage
 1-4:1.0 May  3 18:18:50 relampago3 mtp-probe: checking bus 1, device
 4: /sys/devices/pci:00/:00:1a.7/usb1/1-4
 May  3 18:18:50 relampago3 mtp-probe: bus: 1, device: 4 was not an MTP
 device May  3 18:18:57 relampago3 hddtemp[1872]: /dev/sda: WDC
 WD2500JS-75NCB3: 34 C May  3 18:19:06 relampago3 kernel: [
 3948.470324] scsi 7:0:0:0: Direct-Access WDC WD30 EZRX-00MMMB0
  PQ: 0 ANSI: 2 CCS May  3 18:19:06 relampago3 kernel: [
 3948.472796] sd 7:0:0:0: [sdf] 1565565872 512-byte logical blocks:
 (801 GB/746 GiB)

… here we have 801 GB.

Now thats strange.

What kernel is this?

I think its an kernel issue, cause this is before any partitioning.

The device reports 512-byte logical blocks. But it would be nice to know 
the physical size as well. It might have 4096 byte there. If it has thats 
one of the disks I tell the students of my Linux trainings to through out 
of the window ;). It would report 512 byte to the OS and basically lie to 
it to stay compatible with older Windows versions, while using 4 KiB as 
physical hardware sector size. I recommend either 512/512 or 4096/4096, so 
both the same size.

I would try with 3.2 backport kernel in case you use Squeeze.

 fdisk: opción inválida -- c
 GNU Fdisk 1.2.4

This only works with util-linux fdisk not gnu-fdisk.

merkaba:/sys/block/sda fdisk -c -u -l /dev/sda

Disk /dev/sda: 

Re: Swap space not used

2012-05-04 Thread Stephen Powell
On Thu, 03 May 2012 03:48:59 -0400 (EDT), Claudius Hubig wrote:
 
 Stephen Powell zlinux...@wowway.com wrote:
 It is my understanding that,
 assuming suspend/resume is supported, your swap partition
 should be AT LEAST as large as TWICE the amount of RAM.
 Suspend/resume will consume a RAM's worth right out of the
 starting gate.  The rest is then available for regular swap
 file activity.
 
 This is - more or less - wrong. Suspend/Resume will consume at most
 swap space corresponding to the used RAM (i. e. with compression and
 dropping of buffers/caches, it can be far less). However, this swap
 space is not used during runtime but only on suspend, so if there is
 no need to suspend under heavy load (used swap usually indicates
 heavy load on a desktop and I fail to imagine a reason why you’d like
 to suspend a server…), swap the size of RAM is definitely enough.

Thank you for explaining this.  I was making an assumption based
on previous experience with other operating systems that is
apparently not warranted.  For example, z/VM will allocate its
dump space in the system spool during startup, just to make sure
that if it needs to take a dump, there will be sufficient spool
space available to do it.  The size of the dump space is based on
the amount of RAM, of course.  (Or as mainframers call it, CSTORE.)
Of course, a system dump and a suspend image are taken for different
purposes, but both involve a dump of RAM.

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Re: Random system freezes - need your input

2012-05-04 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Fri, 4 May 2012 12:56:01 +0200, Matthias wrote in message 
CABo4i4y5-=KRW57TdmjVgJVb=t=sf-65gyqsevk6s9yecfs...@mail.gmail.com:

 2012/5/1 Matthias Guentert matthias.guent...@gmail.com:
  Thanks for your reply - very appreciated. Currently I am running
  Windows Vista on a third harddisk to see if a hardware fault can be
  excluded being the culprit. So far I did not had one freeze since
  weeks running Vista. This points back to your suspicion. I will
  switch back to the opensource nv driver and see if this solves the
  random freezes.
 
 No single freeze since four days, although the nvidia kernel module
 is loaded. All I did is replace the nvidia string from the
 xorg.conf file with nv. It seems the nvidia driver is causing this
 random stops - the USB path can be discarded.
 
 This means both nvidia-glx versions are causing my PC to halt.
 
 _Debian non-free repository:_
 
 nvidia-glx version 195.36.31-6
 
 _Backports non-free repository:_
 
 nvidia-glx version 280.13.really.275.36-1~bpo60+2
 
 Okay what's next? How can I provide more information / enable
 debugging for this module?

..ask Nvidea's support team, it's _their_ _closed_ source.

..now, if you were willing to help debug the nouveau driver 
on your card, you would find a fine team of supporting 
volonteers here on this list.

 Thanks in advance
 Matthias
 
 


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Re: Evolution spell checking

2012-05-04 Thread Celejar
On Fri, 04 May 2012 11:15:13 +0200
Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote:

 Does anybody know a way to get spell checking for Evolutions subject
 line? I'm serious.
 
 I don't like it, if I write subjects similar to this one:
 RAM from the stonagae
 
 Regarding to Google it might be a bug for Ubuntu known years ago. I'll
 reboot to Debian later and test Evolution there.
 
 I'm using the same mails with Evolution on several installs, first
 Evolution install on my machine for those mails is from Arch Linux and
 there spell checking also doesn't work for the subject.

I've long noted that Sylpheed also doesn't seem to have subject line
spell checking, and I agree that it would be nice to have it.

Celejar


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Re: Where to store Icon for xv

2012-05-04 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Thu, 03 May 2012 17:43:47 -0400, Edward wrote in message 
4fa2fc13.3090...@comcast.net:

 Arnt Karlsen wrote:
 
   ..really???  _The_ xv icon? 8o)  Please post the output
   of dpkg -S /usr/share/icons/mono/scalable/apps/xv.svgz.
 
 dpkg -S /usr/share/icons/mono/scalable/apps/xv.svgz
 kde-icons-mono: /usr/share/icons/mono/scalable/apps/xv.svgz

..nope, it isn't, you were right Indulekha, but it close enough 
to fool _many_ here. ;o)

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Re: i would like to know how i can upgrade to the latest kernel on debian squeeze.

2012-05-04 Thread Joey L
Okay - guys - thanks - i think you convinced me to go with backports :)
I have added it to my /etc/apt/source-list
and ran apt-get update

What do i do next - i have been googling it ...no luck on how to
install the latest 2.6.X kernel or the latest 3..3.X one.
Can they both live on the same box ??? I can juist different grub menu
options - is this possible?
I am sort of new to this..any kind of simple help is appriciated.
thanks again.

On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 1:04 PM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, 02 May 2012 15:33:41 -0400, Joey L wrote:

 I thoiught it would be easy to google - how i can upgrade to the latest
 kernel on debian squeeze.

 but apparently it is not as easy as i thought. does anyone have a quick
 tutorial on how to do this ?

 Debian does not provide compiled kernels for the released versions (now
 Squeeze) other than the ones located at the backports repository¹.

 However, you can always grab whatever kernel you prefer from the
 kernel.org site and compile the sources by yourself which is also
 pretty easy (detailed instrucctions can be found here²).

 ¹http://backports-master.debian.org/
 ²http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch08s06.html.en

 Greetings,

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Re: Random system freezes - need your input

2012-05-04 Thread Curt
On 2012-05-04, Matthias Guentert matthias.guent...@gmail.com wrote:

 Okay what's next? How can I provide more information / enable
 debugging for this module?


Upgrade to the newest stable driver (I guess you'll have to use the nvidia
installer, after purging the debian package) and newest stable kernel,
try the remedies/workarounds suggested here, if any apply:

http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=d8788ed4331f7e80153575f2b3bc615ct=58498

But as the driver is closed-source, non-free, proprietary, and as Bob
Proulx would say, evil, debian development people can't help you if the
problem fails to be resolved.

That is life, as my late mother used to say, in the big city.

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Re: Swap space not used

2012-05-04 Thread Lisi
On Friday 04 May 2012 06:16:52 Bret Busby wrote:
 It could simply be malicious web sites.

 I have just tried (repeatedly) to access whitepages.com.au, using
 konqueror (one of the web browsers that I have kept allowing
 Javascript), and, each time that I try to use the web site, it just
 freezes konqueror, requiring me to use the kill switch on konqueror.

It works fine here (Konqueror on Lenny). :-/

Curiouser and curiouser

Perhaps I am being more frugal in my memory use?

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Re: i would like to know how i can upgrade to the latest kernel on debian squeeze.

2012-05-04 Thread Lisi
On Friday 04 May 2012 13:57:16 Joey L wrote:
 Can they both live on the same box ??? I can juist different grub menu
 options - is this possible?

Yes, and you can chose from the GRUB menu.

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Re: Random system freezes - need your input

2012-05-04 Thread Matthias Guentert
2012/5/4 Curt cu...@free.fr:
 Upgrade to the newest stable driver (I guess you'll have to use the nvidia
 installer, after purging the debian package) and newest stable kernel,
 try the remedies/workarounds suggested here, if any apply:

Okay, I'll give the latest version a try. Let's see how stable that
one is... also I've created a thread on the nvidia forum.

$ cat /proc/driver/nvidia/version
NVRM version: NVIDIA UNIX x86_64 Kernel Module  295.49  Mon Apr 30
23:46:33 PDT 2012
GCC version:  gcc version 4.4.5 (Debian 4.4.5-8)

 But as the driver is closed-source, non-free, proprietary, and as Bob
 Proulx would say, evil, debian development people can't help you if the
 problem fails to be resolved.

 That is life, as my late mother used to say, in the big city.

 ;-)

Hm, I can feel some malicious pleasure there... ;-)

Any real alternatives (in terms of performance, support, opensource
drivers) to nvidia?


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Re: PlayOnLinux + wine + amd64

2012-05-04 Thread Brad Alexander
On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 11:55 PM, Scott Ferguson
scott.ferguson.debian.u...@gmail.com wrote:
 Please don't top-post

Sorry. Saw (but didn't read) the whole thread on when to and not to top post.

 On 04/05/12 13:12, Brad Alexander wrote:
 It is. I mounted the iso image there.

 OK. I had to ask.

No problem.

$ ls -l /mnt/Installer.exe
-rwx-- 1 501 dialout 2505256 May 25  2010 /mnt/Installer.exe

 For PlayOnLinux and WINE I've got:-
 libkwineffects1a
 libwine
 libwine-alsa
 libwine-cms
 libwine-gl
 libwine-gphoto2
 libwine-ldap
 libwine-print
 libwine-sane
 playonlinux
 wine
 wine-bin
 wine-doc
 wine-utils

My list is more or less the same.

libwine-alsa-unstable
libwine-bin-unstable
libwine-cms-unstable
libwine-gecko-unstable
libwine-gl-unstable
libwine-gphoto2-unstable
libwine-ldap-unstable
libwine-openal-unstable
libwine-oss-unstable
libwine-print-unstable
libwine-sane-unstable
libwine-unstable
playonlinux
wine-bin-unstable
wine-unstable
winetricks

[snip]

I also just upgraded from wine-unstable 1.1.34 to 1.5.0, and the
message has changed. Now I get

[POL_Wine] Error: Wine seems to have crashed

If your program is running, just ignore this message
wine: cannot find LE:\\Installer.exe

I have tried the system (1.5.0/amd64) and the one included with POL
(1.3.17/x86), and both give me the above message.

Thanks,
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Safe-upgrade, My Worst Nightmare has Occurred.

2012-05-04 Thread Martin McCormick
Several weeks ago, I upgraded from lenny to squeeze and
was unaware of the removal of volatile so, after removing that
line from /etc/apt/sources.list, I did

aptitude update and then aptitude safe-upgrade.

It pulled in a huge number of packages and appeared to
be doing fine until it got to the point where it was changing
the labels for the devices it boots from. It reported the labels
for /dev/hda which is the boot drive and /dev/sdb which is an
un-mounted drive that I mount each night for backups so that one
isn't even mounted right now.

After reporting what device label it was going to use,
it print OK. I hit enter and absolutely nothing has happened
since.

I can still ssh in to the system and see that /etc/fstab
has not yet been rewritten but it looks like safe-upgrade is
stuck.

Is there any way to make safe-upgrade at least attempt
to go to the next task or at least report why it is stuck?

This is why we make backups. I'm glad of that but it
will take a lot of time to get things back to normal again.

Martin McCormick


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Re: Safe-upgrade, My Worst Nightmare has Occurred.

2012-05-04 Thread Claudius Hubig
Hello Martin,

Martin McCormick mar...@x.it.okstate.edu wrote:
   Is there any way to make safe-upgrade at least attempt
 to go to the next task or at least report why it is stuck?

Your error description is a bit obscure, so I’ll have to ask for more
information:

Currently running jobs:
- What is the output of ps auxw?
- Specifically, are there any commands listed as D?
- If so, what files does this process try to access at the moment
  (lsof -p pid)?
- Are there any commands listed in top/htop as pulling 100% 

Logs:
- Is there anything in the output of dmesg that might point at the
  problem?
- Is there anything in /var/log/{messages,syslog}?

Human error:
- Are you sure that safe-upgrade is stuck rather than simply waiting
  for some input?

Best regards,

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Re: Random system freezes - need your input

2012-05-04 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Fri, 4 May 2012 16:09:57 +0200, Matthias wrote in message 
cabo4i4ygehv6s-o09jglhfsrhxn0aeqfzt9sak+p5scx8pa...@mail.gmail.com:

 2012/5/4 Curt cu...@free.fr:
  Upgrade to the newest stable driver (I guess you'll have to use the
  nvidia installer, after purging the debian package) and newest
  stable kernel, try the remedies/workarounds suggested here, if any
  apply:
 
 Okay, I'll give the latest version a try. Let's see how stable that
 one is... also I've created a thread on the nvidia forum.
 
 $ cat /proc/driver/nvidia/version
 NVRM version: NVIDIA UNIX x86_64 Kernel Module  295.49  Mon Apr 30
 23:46:33 PDT 2012
 GCC version:  gcc version 4.4.5 (Debian 4.4.5-8)
 
  But as the driver is closed-source, non-free, proprietary, and as
  Bob Proulx would say, evil, debian development people can't help
  you if the problem fails to be resolved.
 
  That is life, as my late mother used to say, in the big city.
 
  ;-)
 
 Hm, I can feel some malicious pleasure there... ;-)
 
 Any real alternatives (in terms of performance, support, opensource
 drivers) to nvidia?

..you did try nouveau?  

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Re: i would like to know how i can upgrade to the latest kernel on debian squeeze.

2012-05-04 Thread Tom H
On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 8:57 AM, Joey L mjh2...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 1:04 PM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, 02 May 2012 15:33:41 -0400, Joey L wrote:

 I thoiught it would be easy to google - how i can upgrade to the latest
 kernel on debian squeeze.

 but apparently it is not as easy as i thought. does anyone have a quick
 tutorial on how to do this ?

 Debian does not provide compiled kernels for the released versions (now
 Squeeze) other than the ones located at the backports repository¹.

 However, you can always grab whatever kernel you prefer from the
 kernel.org site and compile the sources by yourself which is also
 pretty easy (detailed instrucctions can be found here²).

 ¹http://backports-master.debian.org/
 ²http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch08s06.html.en

 Okay - guys - thanks - i think you convinced me to go with backports :)
 I have added it to my /etc/apt/source-list
 and ran apt-get update
 What do i do next - i have been googling it ...no luck on how to
 install the latest 2.6.X kernel or the latest 3..3.X one.
 Can they both live on the same box ??? I can juist different grub menu
 options - is this possible?

You're welcome.

Did you add deb http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports
squeeze-backports main to your apt sources?

Yes, you can have 2.6.32 and 3.2.0 coexist.

Search for linux-image to see all installable kernels.

3.3 isn't available from backports; 3.2 is available because it's the
kernel that'll be used for wheezy. 3.3 is available from the
experimental repo.


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Re: How do I remove a bad file??

2012-05-04 Thread Dan B.

Jochen Spieker wrote:

Dan B.:

No.  Losing the display order setting is probably the _worst-case_
scenario


The OP showed us an obvious case of file system corruption. He is lucky
if he only lost this index file and no other files. He is *very* lucky
if an fsck can repair the damage and nothing else is corrupted. Or maybe
he is smart and has a backup. ;-)


I thought you were referring to just the effect on SeaMonkey/Thunderbird
of removing the .msf file (since your comment was right after my details
about .msf files).



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Re: Random system freezes - need your input

2012-05-04 Thread Curt
On 2012-05-04, Matthias Guentert matthias.guent...@gmail.com wrote:

 Any real alternatives (in terms of performance, support, opensource
 drivers) to nvidia?

I don't know.  ATI's worse, IMHO. There's the new 'nouveau' nvidia driver
(bilingual redundancy, anyone?), but I think it needs work.

Are you ccing (? how do you write that ?) to my mailing address on
purpose, or is it gmail, or both?

Must be gmail; it seems to me other people have mentioned this oddity in
the past.


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Re: Exim panics

2012-05-04 Thread Camaleón
On Thu, 03 May 2012 21:53:26 +0100, Tony van der Hoff wrote:

 On 03/05/12 20:55, Camaleón wrote:

 Does bind9 have any problem with ipv6? I didn't notice, at least in my
 Lenny servers :-?

 Yes, I think it was discussed on this list. Maybe not bind9, but my
 router can't handle ipv6:

None of my ADSL routers do. But this (the traffic between ipv4 and ipv6 
backbones) has to be handled transparently by your carrier.

 May  3 21:29:53 tony-lx named[1985]: error (FORMERR) resolving 
 'telegraph.nestoria.co.uk//IN': 178.250.72.132#53 
 May  3 21:29:53 tony-lx named[1985]: DNS format error from 178.250.74.132#53 
 resolving telegraph.nestoria.co.uk/ for client 192.168.1.105#56959: 
 invalid response

Mmm, there should be no need for that, I mean, bind9 can be configured to 
don't use ipv6... this is what I get in lenny when daemon starts:

syslog.1:May  4 07:18:51 stt005 named[2382]: loading configuration from 
'/etc/bind/named.conf'
syslog.1:May  4 07:18:51 stt005 named[2382]: using default UDP/IPv4 port range: 
[1024, 65535]
syslog.1:May  4 07:18:51 stt005 named[2382]: using default UDP/IPv6 port range: 
[1024, 65535]
syslog.1:May  4 07:18:51 stt005 named[2382]: no IPv6 interfaces found
syslog.1:May  4 07:18:51 stt005 named[2382]: listening on IPv4 interface lo, 
127.0.0.1#53
syslog.1:May  4 07:18:51 stt005 named[2382]: listening on IPv4 interface eth0, 
192.168.0.5#53

And I did nothing to disable ipv6 here (in fact, I can see it's enabled at 
/etc/bind/named.conf.options → listen-on-v6 { any; }; , but still bind9 
does this by its own.

 Commenting out the ipv6 entry in hosts fixed that.

And that's strange because if you are using a local dns resolver, the hosts 
file shouldn't be queried to resolve external domains :-?

 Mmm, then there must be something at a lower layer, I mean, maybe is
 that you have disabled the whole ipv6 support at the kernel.

 I can see my two interfaces are getting an ipv6 address:

(...)

 And (from my Lenny):

 sm01@stt008:~$ lsmod|grep ipv6
 ipv6  288456  26

 Neither of those provokes a response here.

That can mean you have disabled ipv6, system-wide.

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Re: Evolution spell checking

2012-05-04 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 2012-05-04 at 16:10 +0200, an unknown sender wrote:
  ^still the
issue that digest is borked.
 On Fri, 04 May 2012 11:15:13 +0200
 Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote:
 
  Does anybody know a way to get spell checking for Evolutions subject
  line? I'm serious.
  
  I don't like it, if I write subjects similar to this one:
  RAM from the stonagae
  
  Regarding to Google it might be a bug for Ubuntu known years ago. I'll
  reboot to Debian later and test Evolution there.
  
  I'm using the same mails with Evolution on several installs, first
  Evolution install on my machine for those mails is from Arch Linux and
  there spell checking also doesn't work for the subject.
 
 I've long noted that Sylpheed also doesn't seem to have subject line
 spell checking, and I agree that it would be nice to have it.
 
 Celejar

Perhaps we need to file bug reports, reps. wishes to the client coders.

Regards,
Ralf


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Re: Windows domain user in Linux

2012-05-04 Thread Daniel Koch
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Am 04.05.2012 09:32, schrieb Muhammad Yousuf Khan:
 i am using winbind for samba to fetch users from windows domain.
 now i want to add a windows domain user administrator a member of
 group root. however when i run the command it gives me an error.
 
 #useradd -G root administrator useradd: user 'administrator'
 already exists
 
 
 Please Help.
 
 Thank you,
 
 

What about:

# adduser administrator root


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Re: Where have the mailing lists gone?

2012-05-04 Thread Camaleón
On Thu, 03 May 2012 21:50:43 +, Dirk wrote:

 some marketing-asshole has gone bananas on your websites again...
 probably thinking a high page count makes users happier...
 
 http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/
 
 No Index with mailing lists but a desert of text that NOBODY will read.

You'd better take a cup of tea and then re-read:

***
All original Debian mailing lists are run on a special server, using an 
automatic mail processing software called SmartList. *This server is 
called lists.debian.org*. All submission, subscription and unsubscription 
messages have to be sent to a particular address at this host.
***

(bolded text is mine)

 The first link on that page is called mailing lists
 (http://foldoc.org/mailing+list)
 
 But that isn't the index of mailing lists either... it just a bullshit
 link put at the very top for no other reason than to make users angry...
 
 The next link: http://lists.debian.org/
 
 Ah! that must be it...

Ah, well done! You finally find it.

 No. It isn't.. it is the same page as the actual one will a different
 style sheet but less text (which is good)...

No? Are you sure?

***
If you wish to browse a complete list of mailing lists, see the complete 
index. 

http://lists.debian.org/completeindex.html
***

There you have it.

 /there/ i found the link subscribe
 (http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/subscribe) not sure what would
 happen if i click it..

Nothing, unless you first select [x] the list(s) you want to be 
subscribed to.

 Turns out the subscribe link doesn't subscribe me to a mailinglist but,
 instead, it is the index of mailinglists that i was searching for more
 than 30(!) seconds...
 
 :)

This young people is always hurry.

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Re: Windows domain user in Linux

2012-05-04 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 04 May 2012 12:32:31 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:

 i am using winbind for samba to fetch users from windows domain. now i
 want to add a windows domain user administrator a member of group
 root. however when i run the command it gives me an error.
 
 #useradd -G root administrator
 useradd: user 'administrator' already exists

Is the user already in an external database?

From man adduser:

***
CAVEATS
You may not add a user to a NIS or LDAP group. This must be performed on 
the corresponding server.

Similarly, if the username already exists in an external user database 
such as NIS or LDAP, useradd will deny the user account creation request.
***

In addition, if the user administrator already exists locally, you have 
to use usermod instead.

Note: adding a user to the root's group can be dangerous.

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Re: Safe-upgrade, My Worst Nightmare has Occurred.

2012-05-04 Thread Martin McCormick
Claudius Hubig writes:
 Your error description is a bit obscure, so I?ll have to ask for more

So far, I do not see any error yet. I will do the tests you
suggested and report back. It does act just like it is waiting
for more input. I have type y, yes and ok and do see the echo
back. I will post a message later describing the tests.

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Re: Macbook pro re-mapping single key

2012-05-04 Thread Indulekha
(NOTE: please reply inline, so as to preserve the discussion 
for the archive. Thanks!)

On Fri, May 04, 2012 at 11:56:07AM +0200, Riccardo Romoli wrote:
Hi, thanks for reply.
Using xev this is what I obtained from the key I would like to re-map:
KeyRelease event, serial 33, synthetic NO, window 0x401,
   root 0x12d, subw 0x0, time 778257, (752,-224), root:(833,354),
   state 0x0, keycode 104 (keysym 0xff8d, KP_Enter), same_screen YES,
   XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (0d) 
   XFilterEvent returns: False
Can you paste the response of your right ALT (Alt Gr) so I can
understand which is its keycode?

You just use xev to get that, as you did above for enter.
The codes for mine are not useful to you, I only posted 
that to give an idea what to look for.
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Re: Evolution spell checking

2012-05-04 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 04 May 2012 08:31:58 -0400, Celejar wrote:

 On Fri, 04 May 2012 11:15:13 +0200
 Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote:
 
 Does anybody know a way to get spell checking for Evolutions subject
 line? I'm serious.

(...)

Nah, it's just a 12 years-bug: 

https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=200683

You only have to wait for 12 years more.

 I've long noted that Sylpheed also doesn't seem to have subject line
 spell checking, and I agree that it would be nice to have it.

Thunderbird does it nicely :-)

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Re: Safe-upgrade, My Worst Nightmare has Occurred.

2012-05-04 Thread Jochen Spieker
Martin McCormick:
 
 So far, I do not see any error yet. I will do the tests you
 suggested and report back. It does act just like it is waiting
 for more input. I have type y, yes and ok and do see the echo
 back. I will post a message later describing the tests.

I would just Ctrl-c and apt-get -f install, followed by another
safe-upgrade.

And after that, check that your boot config is still fine (Grub1/2,
/etc/fstabm, initramfs).

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Re: Where to store Icon for xv

2012-05-04 Thread Indulekha
On Fri, May 04, 2012 at 02:51:43PM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
 On Thu, 03 May 2012 17:43:47 -0400, Edward wrote in message 
 4fa2fc13.3090...@comcast.net:
 
  Arnt Karlsen wrote:
  
..really???  _The_ xv icon? 8o)  Please post the output
of dpkg -S /usr/share/icons/mono/scalable/apps/xv.svgz.
  
  dpkg -S /usr/share/icons/mono/scalable/apps/xv.svgz
  kde-icons-mono: /usr/share/icons/mono/scalable/apps/xv.svgz
 
 ..nope, it isn't, you were right Indulekha, but it close enough 
 to fool _many_ here. ;o)

It happens once in a blue moon... 
;)
Actually, I sometimes set up desktops for non-tech users, and 
have worked around the no appropriate icon issue the same way 
on their behalf before (I don't need no steenkeeng icons, myself). 
Then 2 years later an update breaks everything (***shakes fist 
at G  K desktops***), I'm asked to fix it and end up stumbling 
about a bit before realizing what I did last time. 

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Re: Macbook pro re-mapping single key

2012-05-04 Thread Riccardo Romoli
Hi,
but my problem is that I haven't the key I need on my keyboard! So how can
I find the code with xev if I haven't the key to generate the code itself?

R

On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 5:17 PM, Indulekha indule...@theunworthy.com wrote:

 (NOTE: please reply inline, so as to preserve the discussion
 for the archive. Thanks!)

 On Fri, May 04, 2012 at 11:56:07AM +0200, Riccardo Romoli wrote:
 Hi, thanks for reply.
 Using xev this is what I obtained from the key I would like to re-map:
 KeyRelease event, serial 33, synthetic NO, window 0x401,
root 0x12d, subw 0x0, time 778257, (752,-224), root:(833,354),
state 0x0, keycode 104 (keysym 0xff8d, KP_Enter), same_screen YES,
XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (0d) 
XFilterEvent returns: False
 Can you paste the response of your right ALT (Alt Gr) so I can
 understand which is its keycode?

 You just use xev to get that, as you did above for enter.
 The codes for mine are not useful to you, I only posted
 that to give an idea what to look for.
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Re: Safe-upgrade, My Worst Nightmare has Occurred.

2012-05-04 Thread Indulekha
On Fri, May 04, 2012 at 05:20:11PM +0200, Jochen Spieker wrote:
 Martin McCormick:
  
  So far, I do not see any error yet. I will do the tests you
  suggested and report back. It does act just like it is waiting
  for more input. I have type y, yes and ok and do see the echo
  back. I will post a message later describing the tests.
 
 I would just Ctrl-c and apt-get -f install, followed by another
 safe-upgrade.
 
 And after that, check that your boot config is still fine (Grub1/2,
 /etc/fstabm, initramfs).


This is exactly what I would do.

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