Re: SSH - ssh-add est ce normal?

2012-05-19 Thread Hugues MORIN
Bonjour

Merci de ta reponse.

Il existe su sous debian.

Cordialement
Hugues

Le 17 mai 2012 22:15, mi demur mi.de...@tinet.cat a écrit :
 sous UNIX il existe la commande sudo; je ne sais pas si elle existe sous
 linux debian.

 il n'est pas si dangereux de travailler sous root quand on est conscient de
 ses actes.



Le 17 mai 2012 21:24, Hugues MORIN mor...@gmail.com a écrit :
 Salut


 Je sais que c'est toujours dangereux d'utiliser root mais dans le cas
 present je ne vois pas comment faire autrement.

 J'ai besoin de pourvoir modifier la configuration du serveur.
 Il faut donc que je sois root sur le serveur.

 Comme je veux tester diverses solutions pour la configuration, j'ai
 besoin de pouvoir modifier les fichiers facilement.
 D'ou le choix de monter le serveur dans un dossier de ma machine locale.

 Ce n'est qu'une solution temporaire qui ne doit durer que le temps de
 la mise en place du serveur.

 Mais voila, sur ma machine locale il faut aussi que j'utilise aussi
 les droit de root pour pouvoir faire le montage.
 Je travaille sur ma machine locale en utilisant mon compte user (et pas le 
 root)

 Le ssh-add doit etre refait en root lors de chaque session afin que je
 puisses connecter mon user.
 J'aimerai ne pas avoir a refaire cette operation a chaque redemarrage
 ou ouverture de session.

 Merci

 Cordialement
 Hugues

 Le 16 mai 2012 07:45, Yves Rutschle debian.anti-s...@rutschle.net a écrit :
 On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 04:43:16PM +0200, Sébastien NOBILI wrote:
 Autoriser root à se connecter en SSH n'est pas une bonne idée... Plusieurs 
 raisons
 à ça :
     - dans les tentatives d'intrusion par force brute sur un SSH, il n'est 
 pas
       rare de voir des tentatives avec l'utilisateur root, un jour ou 
 l'autre
       l'une aboutira,

 Avec un mot de passe et fail2ban, c'est pratiquement
 impossible. Avec une clé, c'est pire. C'est une fausse
 raison.

 Par contre si on a peu confiance dans les utilisateurs
 locaux, si l'un d'entre arrive à prendre root sur la machine
 de départ, il l'a automatiquement sur la machine d'arrivée.

 Ou bien si un service root est compromis sur la machine de
 départ, pareil.

 Y.

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Re: [HS] PB de compilation kernel 2.6

2012-05-19 Thread Fabien R
On 17/05/12 15:49, Bzzz wrote:
 Salut liste,

 étant donné que la plupart des kernels V.3.n ralentissent énormément
 mon vieux mono-cpu, j'ai voulu compiler un V.2.6 (2.6.39.4);
 cependant la compilation plante au bout de ~1'.
   
Quelle architecture as-tu défini dans le fichier de configuration ?

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Re: Comment ne générer que les paquets binaires avec pbuilder

2012-05-19 Thread Jean Baptiste FAVRE
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On 19/05/2012 01:39, Charles Plessy wrote:
 Le Fri, May 18, 2012 at 07:17:38PM +0200, Jean Baptiste FAVRE a
 écrit :
 
 Y-a-t'il moyen de dire à pbuilder de ne générer que les paquets 
 binaires, si oui comment (je n'ai pas vu l'option dans le man et 
 Google n'est pas prolixe sur le sujet).
 
 Bonjour,
 
 Il faut dire à pbuilder de le dire à dpkg-buildpackage avec
 l'option --debbuildopts.

Ah ben oui, forcément... bon, je retourne à la lecture du man alors :-)

Merci,
JB
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ram qui ne diminue pas

2012-05-19 Thread prego jérémy

bonjour,

je viens vous exposer un petit soucis

j'ai une debian squeeze a jour avec le noyaux 3.2.0 mais depuis toujours 
j'ai constaté que la mémoire avec la comande free -m ne diminuais jamais


même après avoir tout stopé  (bureau gnome, cups etc) quand je fais free 
-m ça me donne ça  ::


 total   used   free sharedbuffers cached
Mem:  7915   6348   1567  0 90   5985
-/+ buffers/cache:271   7644
Swap: 2008  0   2008

mon fichier ps aux en pièce jointe

merci d'avance

jérémy
USER   PID %CPU %MEMVSZ   RSS TTY  STAT START   TIME COMMAND
root 1  0.0  0.0   8544   808 ?Ss   May17   0:02 init [2]  
root 2  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?SMay17   0:00 [kthreadd]
root 3  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?SMay17   0:02 [ksoftirqd/0]
root 6  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?SMay17   0:00 [migration/0]
root 7  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?SMay17   0:00 [watchdog/0]
root 8  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?SMay17   0:00 [migration/1]
root10  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?SMay17   0:00 [ksoftirqd/1]
root12  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?SMay17   0:00 [watchdog/1]
root13  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?SMay17   0:00 [migration/2]
root15  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?SMay17   0:00 [ksoftirqd/2]
root16  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?SMay17   0:00 [watchdog/2]
root17  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?SMay17   0:00 [migration/3]
root19  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?SMay17   0:00 [ksoftirqd/3]
root20  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?SMay17   0:00 [watchdog/3]
root21  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?S   May17   0:00 [cpuset]
root22  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?S   May17   0:00 [khelper]
root23  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?SMay17   0:00 [kdevtmpfs]
root24  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?S   May17   0:00 [netns]
root25  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?SMay17   0:00 [sync_supers]
root26  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?SMay17   0:00 [bdi-default]
root27  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?S   May17   0:00 [kintegrityd]
root28  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?S   May17   0:00 [kblockd]
root29  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?SMay17   0:00 [khungtaskd]
root30  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?SMay17   0:00 [kswapd0]
root31  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?SN   May17   0:00 [ksmd]
root32  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?SN   May17   0:00 [khugepaged]
root33  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?SMay17   0:00 [fsnotify_mark]
root34  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?S   May17   0:00 [crypto]
root   135  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?SMay17   0:00 [khubd]
root   178  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?S   May17   0:00 [ata_sff]
root   200  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?SMay17   0:00 [scsi_eh_0]
root   201  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?SMay17   0:14 [scsi_eh_1]
root   202  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?SMay17   0:00 [scsi_eh_2]
root   203  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?SMay17   0:00 [scsi_eh_3]
root   204  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?SMay17   0:00 [scsi_eh_4]
root   205  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?SMay17   0:00 [scsi_eh_5]
root   209  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?SMay17   0:00 [kworker/u:4]
root   210  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?SMay17   0:02 [kworker/u:5]
root   257  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?SMay17   0:00 [kjournald]
root   341  0.0  0.0  17412  1364 ?Ss  May17   0:00 udevd --daemon
root   526  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?S   May17   0:00 [cfg80211]
root   606  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?S   May17   0:00 [led_workqueue]
root   619  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?S   May17   0:00 [ttm_swap]
root   694  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?S   May17   0:00 [hd-audio0]
root   735  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?S   May17   0:00 [hci0]
root   760  0.1  0.0  46984  1600 ?Ssl  May17   3:53 /sbin/brltty -q
root   938  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?SMay17   0:01 [jbd2/sda5-8]
root   939  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?S   May17   0:00 
[ext4-dio-unwrit]
root  1196  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?SN   May17   0:00 [speakup]
root  1204  0.0  0.0 120284  2032 ?Sl   May17   0:00 
/usr/sbin/rsyslogd -c4
root  1206  0.0  0.0  30196   924 ?Ss   May17   0:00 
/usr/bin/speechd-up -l1
102   1242  0.0  0.0  24056  1596 ?Ss   May17   0:01 
/usr/bin/dbus-daemon --system
root  1249  0.0  0.0   390480 ?Ss   May17   0:00 
/usr/sbin/acpi_fakekeyd
root  1279  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?SMay17   0:03 [flush-8:0]
root  1286  0.0  0.0   4504  1104 ?Ss   May17   0:01 /usr/sbin/acpid
root  1401  0.0  0.0   6940  1056 

Re: [HS] PB de compilation kernel 2.6

2012-05-19 Thread Bzzz
On Sat, 19 May 2012 11:29:11 +0200
Fabien R theedge...@free.fr wrote:


 Quelle architecture as-tu défini dans le fichier de configuration ?
 
? j'ai repassé en revue les options mais rien de spécifique sur
l'archi; si tu veux dire le CPU, c'est athlon/duron/k7.

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Re: ram qui ne diminue pas

2012-05-19 Thread Bzzz
On Sat, 19 May 2012 13:21:01 +0200
prego jérémy jer...@prego-network.net wrote:

 toujours j'ai constaté que la mémoire avec la comande free -m ne
 diminuais jamais
 
 même après avoir tout stopé  (bureau gnome, cups etc) quand je
 fais free -m ça me donne ça  ::
 
   total   used   free shared
 buffers cached Mem:  7915   6348
 1567  0 90   5985 -/+ buffers/cache:
 271   7644 Swap: 2008  0   2008

Ta mémoire doit être gelée, faut changer la carte-mère.
































































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Re: ram qui ne diminue pas

2012-05-19 Thread prego jérémy



Le 19/05/2012 13:38, Bzzz a écrit :

On Sat, 19 May 2012 13:21:01 +0200
prego jérémyjer...@prego-network.net  wrote:

   

toujours j'ai constaté que la mémoire avec la comande free -m ne
diminuais jamais

même après avoir tout stopé  (bureau gnome, cups etc) quand je
fais free -m ça me donne ça  ::

   total   used   free shared
buffers cached Mem:  7915   6348
1567  0 90   5985 -/+ buffers/cache:
271   7644 Swap: 2008  0   2008
 

Ta mémoire doit être gelée, faut changer la carte-mère.

comment ça ? si ça peut aider si je regarde la température du proc avec acpi  
en ce moment il est encore a 78 °
  c'est un pc portable ASUS K53SC

merci pour les renseignements complémentaires




































   


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Re: ram qui ne diminue pas

2012-05-19 Thread Nicolas KOWALSKI
On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 01:21:01PM +0200, prego jérémy wrote:
 bonjour,

Bonjour,

 j'ai une debian squeeze a jour avec le noyaux 3.2.0 mais depuis
 toujours j'ai constaté que la mémoire avec la comande free -m ne
 diminuais jamais

Ce n'est pas un problème en soit.

  total   used   free sharedbuffers cached
 Mem:  7915   6348   1567  0 90   5985

Le noyau maintient un cache des derniers fichiers lus ou écrits en 
mémoire (colonne cached), ce qui permet accélerer les traitements. 
C'est tout à fait normal. Il n'est pas nécessaire d'y changer quoi que 
ce soit.

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Re: ram qui ne diminue pas

2012-05-19 Thread Bzzz
On Sat, 19 May 2012 13:47:28 +0200
prego jérémy jer...@prego-network.net wrote:

  Ta mémoire doit être gelée, faut changer la carte-mère.
 
  comment ça ? si ça peut aider si je regarde la température du
  proc avec acpi  en ce moment il est encore a 78 ° c'est un pc
  portable ASUS K53SC

Nan, j'déconne (faut dérouler les emails jusqu'au bout...)

C'est normal: le système ne libère la RAM préemptée pour le
cache que lorsque c'est réellement nécessaire, ce qui te permet
d'avoir une conso de swap = 0.

Par contre, 78°C, ça fait bcp, même pour un portable; il n'y aurait
pas des moutons sur les radiateurs?

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Re: ram qui ne diminue pas

2012-05-19 Thread Ken-Patrick Lehrmann
Salut,

Le 19/05/2012 13:21, prego jérémy a écrit :
 
 j'ai une debian squeeze a jour avec le noyaux 3.2.0 mais depuis toujours
 j'ai constaté que la mémoire avec la comande free -m ne diminuais jamais

Linux est malin : tu as de la ram, il l'utilise (principalement pour les
caches dans ton cas, vu qu'il n'a rien d'autre à mettre dedans). Où est
le problème ?

cf http://sourcefrog.net/weblog/software/linux-kernel/free-mem.html et
plein d'autres liens similaires en cherchant un peu.

++
KP

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Re: ram qui ne diminue pas

2012-05-19 Thread prego jérémy



Le 19/05/2012 13:58, Bzzz a écrit :

On Sat, 19 May 2012 13:47:28 +0200
prego jérémyjer...@prego-network.net  wrote:

   

Ta mémoire doit être gelée, faut changer la carte-mère.

comment ça ? si ça peut aider si je regarde la température du
proc avec acpi  en ce moment il est encore a 78 ° c'est un pc
portable ASUS K53SC
   

Nan, j'déconne (faut dérouler les emails jusqu'au bout...)

   
oui  désolé, vu que mon lecteur d'écrant me disais que vite vide je 
penser que le mail était terminé je les vu par la suite mes excuses

C'est normal: le système ne libère la RAM préemptée pour le
cache que lorsque c'est réellement nécessaire, ce qui te permet
d'avoir une conso de swap = 0.

   

ok


Par contre, 78°C, ça fait bcp, même pour un portable; il n'y aurait
pas des moutons sur les radiateurs?

ça je peux pas trop dire je viens de passer un petit coup d'aspirateur, je vais 
voir par la suite. merci en tout cas pour vos réponses


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Re: ram qui ne diminue pas

2012-05-19 Thread prego jérémy



Le 19/05/2012 13:46, Ken-Patrick Lehrmann a écrit :

Salut,

Le 19/05/2012 13:21, prego jérémy a écrit :
   

j'ai une debian squeeze a jour avec le noyaux 3.2.0 mais depuis toujours
j'ai constaté que la mémoire avec la comande free -m ne diminuais jamais
 

Linux est malin : tu as de la ram, il l'utilise (principalement pour les
caches dans ton cas, vu qu'il n'a rien d'autre à mettre dedans). Où est
le problème ?

   


non non je penser que ça avai un  lien avec la temperature de mon 
processeur donc je penser que quelque chose prenais de la ram



cf   et
plein d'autres liens similaires en cherchant un peu.

   

oui j'ai cherché mais en français j'ai pas trouver grand chose désolé

merci en tout cas problème résolu.


++
KP

   


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Re: ram qui ne diminue pas

2012-05-19 Thread Bzzz
On Sat, 19 May 2012 14:17:16 +0200
prego jérémy jer...@prego-network.net wrote:

 Par contre, 78°C, ça fait bcp, même pour un portable; il n'y
 aurait pas des moutons sur les radiateurs?

ça je peux pas trop dire je viens de passer un petit coup
d'aspirateur, je vais voir par la suite.

Souvent, ça ne suffit pas et il faut ouvrir la bête parce que les
ailettes des radiateurs sont tellement serrées (moins de 2mm
d'interstice) que si la poussière a été aspirée par le dessous elle
bloque à la sortie - ça dépend aussi du sens de ventilation, mais il
est à 99% en aspiration dessous et expulsion latérale/arrière.


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Re: ram qui ne diminue pas

2012-05-19 Thread prego jérémy



Le 19/05/2012 14:25, Bzzz a écrit :

On Sat, 19 May 2012 14:17:16 +0200
prego jérémyjer...@prego-network.net  wrote:

   

Par contre, 78°C, ça fait bcp, même pour un portable; il n'y
aurait pas des moutons sur les radiateurs?
 

ça je peux pas trop dire je viens de passer un petit coup
d'aspirateur, je vais voir par la suite.

Souvent, ça ne suffit pas et il faut ouvrir la bête parce que les
ailettes des radiateurs sont tellement serrées (moins de 2mm
d'interstice) que si la poussière a été aspirée par le dessous elle
bloque à la sortie - ça dépend aussi du sens de ventilation, mais il
est à 99% en aspiration dessous et expulsion latérale/arrière.

et niveau garenti cela ce passe comment ? puisque je suppose que l'on peut pas 
le faire nous même si le pc est sous garenti est-ce un motif légitime pour le 
renvoyé sous prétexte qu'il chauffe pas mal ?


en tout cas pour le moment il a l'aire d'avoir apprécier ce que je lui 
est fais il tourne a 50 / 52 °


Jérémy

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Re: ram qui ne diminue pas

2012-05-19 Thread prego jérémy



Le 19/05/2012 14:30, prego jérémy a écrit :



Le 19/05/2012 14:25, Bzzz a écrit :

On Sat, 19 May 2012 14:17:16 +0200
prego jérémyjer...@prego-network.net  wrote:


Par contre, 78°C, ça fait bcp, même pour un portable; il n'y
aurait pas des moutons sur les radiateurs?

ça je peux pas trop dire je viens de passer un petit coup
d'aspirateur, je vais voir par la suite.

Souvent, ça ne suffit pas et il faut ouvrir la bête parce que les
ailettes des radiateurs sont tellement serrées (moins de 2mm
d'interstice) que si la poussière a été aspirée par le dessous elle
bloque à la sortie - ça dépend aussi du sens de ventilation, mais il
est à 99% en aspiration dessous et expulsion latérale/arrière.

et niveau garenti cela ce passe comment ? puisque je suppose que l'on 
peut pas le faire nous même si le pc est sous garenti est-ce un motif 
légitime pour le renvoyé sous prétexte qu'il chauffe pas mal ?


en tout cas pour le moment il a l'aire d'avoir apprécié ce que je lui 
ai fait il tourne a 50 / 52 °


Jérémy



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Re: ram qui ne diminue pas

2012-05-19 Thread Bzzz
On Sat, 19 May 2012 14:30:57 +0200
prego jérémy jer...@prego-network.net wrote:

 en tout cas pour le moment il a l'aire d'avoir apprécier ce que je
 lui est fais il tourne a 50 / 52 °

C'est déjà bcp plus raisonnable; essaye de voir avec d'autre
possesseurs du même portable si des pointes à 78°C sont monnaie
courante ou non.

Vivement les portables équipés de plusieurs ARM multi-cores qui ne
dépasseront pas les 40°C avec tout le monde à 100% :-)

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Re: ram qui ne diminue pas

2012-05-19 Thread Sébastien Delbarre

Le 19/05/2012 14:38, Bzzz a écrit :

On Sat, 19 May 2012 14:30:57 +0200
prego jérémyjer...@prego-network.net  wrote:


en tout cas pour le moment il a l'aire d'avoir apprécier ce que je
lui est fais il tourne a 50 / 52 °

C'est déjà bcp plus raisonnable; essaye de voir avec d'autre
possesseurs du même portable si des pointes à 78°C sont monnaie
courante ou non.

Vivement les portables équipés de plusieurs ARM multi-cores qui ne
dépasseront pas les 40°C avec tout le monde à 100% :-)


re,

apres tout depend de ce qui tourne sur ton pc en meme temps pour la temp 
du processeur, et si carte graphique séparée ou meme processeur ;)


mes 2 centimes

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Re: ram qui ne diminue pas

2012-05-19 Thread Bzzz
On Sat, 19 May 2012 14:52:42 +0200
Sébastien Delbarre sebastien.delba...@gmail.com wrote:

 apres tout depend de ce qui tourne sur ton pc en meme temps pour
 la temp du processeur, et si carte graphique séparée ou meme
 processeur ;)

Wai, mais 78°C c'est bcp, disons que jusqu'à 70°C en pointe ça peut
encore passer, mais plus c'est risqué.
Un simple mouton de la taille de l'ongle du petit doigt peut 
provoquer ça s'il s'est bloqué à l'entrée du radiateur de sortie.

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Re: ram qui ne diminue pas

2012-05-19 Thread Alain Rpnpif
Bonjour,

Le 19 mai 2012, prego jérémy a écrit :

 non non je penser que ça avai un  lien avec la temperature de mon 
 processeur donc je penser que quelque chose prenais de la ram

lancer en ligne de commande top.
Il montre la RAM utilisée et les processus gourmands en ressources donc
qui pourraient faire chauffer le CPU.

En cas d'emballement d'une tâche qui ne veut pas s'arrêter normalement,
il est possible de la tuer sous top.

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Re: ram qui ne diminue pas

2012-05-19 Thread Bzzz
On Sat, 19 May 2012 15:59:33 +0200
Alain Rpnpif rpn...@free.fr wrote:

 
 En cas d'emballement d'une tâche qui ne veut pas s'arrêter
 normalement, il est possible de la tuer sous top.

wai, j'ai un faible pour killall -9 init, c'est radical :)

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Re: ram qui ne diminue pas

2012-05-19 Thread JB1
Le Sat, 19 May 2012 16:12:14 +0200,
Bzzz lazyvi...@gmx.com a écrit :

 On Sat, 19 May 2012 15:59:33 +0200
 Alain Rpnpif rpn...@free.fr wrote:
 
  
  En cas d'emballement d'une tâche qui ne veut pas s'arrêter
  normalement, il est possible de la tuer sous top.
 
 wai, j'ai un faible pour killall -9 init, c'est radical :)
 

bonjour,
avez-vous essayé vmstat?
un exemple:
root@alpha30:/etc# vmstat 2
désolé, je n'ai pas joint les résultats les colonnes ne sont pas
alignées
A+
JB1

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netbase 5 - plus de réseau

2012-05-19 Thread Orion
Bonjour,

Suite à la mise de jour de Netbase dans testing, je n'ai plus de réseau.
attention à :
#672851 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=672851 [*C*|  |=]
[netbase http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?package=netbase]
netbase
5.0: network connection does not come up upon
reboothttp://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=672851


Re: netbase 5 - plus de réseau

2012-05-19 Thread Gaëtan PERRIER
Le Sat, 19 May 2012 21:46:04 +0200
Orion tatacoco...@gmail.com a écrit:

 Bonjour,
 
 Suite à la mise de jour de Netbase dans testing, je n'ai plus de
 réseau. attention à :
 #672851 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=672851
 #[*C*|  |=]
 [netbase
 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?package=netbase]
 netbase 5.0: network connection does not come up upon
 reboothttp://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=672851


ça m'a semblé louche quand j'ai vu que la mise à jour de netbase
forçait la suppression de ifupdown alors je n'ai pas fait la mise à
jour de netbase. Manifestement il y a un problème de dépendance.

Gaëtan

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Re: netbase 5 - plus de réseau

2012-05-19 Thread Gaëtan PERRIER
Le Sat, 19 May 2012 22:31:17 +0200
Gaëtan PERRIER gaetan.perr...@neuf.fr a écrit:

 Le Sat, 19 May 2012 21:46:04 +0200
 Orion tatacoco...@gmail.com a écrit:
 
  Bonjour,
  
  Suite à la mise de jour de Netbase dans testing, je n'ai plus de
  réseau. attention à :
  #672851 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=672851
  #[*C*|  |=]
  [netbase
  http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?package=netbase]
  netbase 5.0: network connection does not come up upon
  reboothttp://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=672851
 
 
 ça m'a semblé louche quand j'ai vu que la mise à jour de netbase
 forçait la suppression de ifupdown alors je n'ai pas fait la mise à
 jour de netbase. Manifestement il y a un problème de dépendance.
 
 Gaëtan
 


D'ailleurs je viens juste de voir que la dernière version de ifupdown a
été poussé dans testing en urgence ...
La mise à jour de netbase devrait donc bien se passer maintenant (c'est
le cas pour moi).

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Re: netbase 5 - plus de réseau

2012-05-19 Thread Bzzz
On Sat, 19 May 2012 21:46:04 +0200
Orion tatacoco...@gmail.com wrote:

 Suite à la mise de jour de Netbase dans testing, je n'ai plus de
 réseau. attention à :
 #672851 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=672851

Indisponibilité d'ifupdown, comme s/ sid il-y-a 48H, ça ne pose
aucun PB, il suffit de lancer le réseau manuellement.

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Re: ram qui ne diminue pas

2012-05-19 Thread Bruno Muller
Hello

Il y a quelques temps, je pondais un pavé (non ça fait pas mal...) pour 
expliquer la gestion de la mémoire sous Linux ; maintenant : 
http://www.linuxatemyram.com/

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Re: regular ancho de banda postfix

2012-05-19 Thread Camaleón
El Fri, 18 May 2012 17:10:41 -0400, lester escribió:

 Quiero regular el ancho de banda de mi server postfix para que el envio
 smtp de mi relay_host se por ejemplo 20 KB, y asi no me ocupe todo el
 canal o alguna herramienta como QoS o CBQ pero mas sencilla y
 documentada para darle prioridad a los paquetes. 

No es necesario que abras otro hilo para preguntar lo mismo, sigue en el 
que estabas y si tienes alguna duda con las respuestas que has recibido, 
pregunta.

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Re: Hibernar en un fichero swap

2012-05-19 Thread Camaleón
El Sat, 19 May 2012 01:30:43 +0200, tahawk tahawk escribió:

 Hola,

Ese html...

 Normalmente utilizo pm-hibernate en mi PC con debian testing para
 hibernar. Lo que quiero hacer es especificar yo donde quiero guardar los
 datos para haceelo en un fichero swap en vez de en la particion swap.
 
 He estado leyendo los mans pero no pone nada al respecto.

http://wiki.debian.org/Hibernation/Hibernate_Without_Swap_Partition

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Re: Repositorios en Lenny

2012-05-19 Thread Camaleón
El Fri, 18 May 2012 18:41:08 -0500, Martin Edmundo Barriga Orozco
escribió:

(ese html...) 

 Hace unas semanas me encontré con unos mensajes queriendo hacer un
 update de mis sources list, en mi Debian Lenny del trabajo, a los pocos
 días, otro Debian lenny de mi casa presento el mismo síntoma.
 user@localhost:~$ sudo apt-get update
(...)
 Err http://ftp.es.debian.org lenny/main Packages 404 Not Found
 W: Imposible obtener 
 http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/dists/lenny/main/binary-i386/Packages 
 404 Not Found.

 En el servidor, veo que el directorio [ http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/
 dists/lenny ] ya no existe.  Seguro se preguntaran por mi archivo de
 configuración, para delimitar el problema y siendo mas simple
 únicamente deje la siguiente linea- deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/
 debian lenny main. 

Esa ya no te va a servir, tienes que usar:

deb http://archive.debian.org/debian/ lenny main non-free contrib

 A pensar de que logre hacer este update con la siguiente linea:- deb
 http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free

Lo dudo :-)

 Mi pregunta es muy simple, ¿Por que ya no existe el directorio http:/
/ftp.es.debian.org/debian/dists/lenny y sus subdirectorios?

Ya no existe en esa ruta, se ha movido al archivo donde están las 
distribuciones que ya no tiene soporte (archive.debian.org).
   
 
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Re: [Noticia] Vuelve OpenOffice de la mano de Apache y con récord de descargas

2012-05-19 Thread Camaleón
El Fri, 18 May 2012 22:16:01 -0430, Miguel Matos escribió:

 Enlace:
 http://www.redusers.com/noticias/vuelve-openoffice-de-la-mano-de-apache-y-con-descargas-records/
 
 Abro el hilo de mensajes para que escriban lo que se les ocurra.

Para mí OpenOffice ha muerto. Viva LibreOffice :-)

P.S. No sé por qué pero a mí me da que esa millonada de descargas tiene 
un gran porcentaje de usuarios que no saben siquiera que existe Libre 
Office, son personas que conocen la marca OOo como la alternativa gratuita 
al MS Office, buscan en la web y llegan al OOo, lo descargan lo instalan y 
listo. Personalmente creo que es una lástima que estos dos proyectos, ahora 
más compatibles y libres que nunca (y con menos fricciones), no unan sus 
esfuerzos y se centren en crear y desarrollar la mejor suite ofimática para
todos los usuarios.

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Re: direct rendering off with xorg intel video driver

2012-05-19 Thread Camaleón
El Fri, 18 May 2012 22:57:08 -0500, Carlos Alberto Guzmán Murillo
escribió:

 Saludos lista,

(ese html...)

 Aunque he gastado bastante tiempo intentando solucionarlo, no he logrado
 activar el direct render en mi laptop. Uso debian(testing) con kernel
 Linux-2.6.32.5-amd64 y el chip de video es intel:

En primer lugar, si tienes un adaptador intel, no tienes que hacer nada, 
se habilita automáticamente. En caso contrario, lo más probable es que se 
trate de un bug.

Y en segundo lugar, wheezy (testing) lleva un kernel 3.2. ¿Estás seguro 
de que usas testing, no será squeeze (estable)?

 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Core Processor 
 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 18) 
(...)
 Kernel driver in use: i915
 
 y ya tengo instalado el driver de xorg para intel. También tengo
 instalado los paquetes mesa-utils, glx-diversions, libgl1-mesa-glx y
 libg1-mesa-dri.
 
 Cuando hago glxinfo con LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose obtengo lo siguiente:
 
 name of display: :0.0
 libGL: OpenDriver: trying /usr/lib32/dri/tls/i965_dri.so 
 libGL: OpenDriver: trying /usr/lib32/dri/i965_dri.so 
 libGL error: dlopen /usr/lib32/dri/i965_dri.so failed 
 (/usr/lib32/dri/i965_dri.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32) 

(...)

Ese tipo de error (wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32) indica que el paquete es de 
la arquitectura incorrecta (32 bits cuando debería ser 64 bits).

Y el resto de mensaje apuntan a un problema con las bibliotecas, no las 
encuentra... mira a ver si puedes subir el archivo /var/log/Xorg.0.log 
a algún sitio para que lo podamos ver.

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Re: Emparejar dispositivos bluetooth

2012-05-19 Thread J. OCTAVIO Avalos
El día 18 de mayo de 2012 19:46, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió:
 El Fri, 18 May 2012 19:16:17 +0200, J. OCTAVIO Avalos escribió:

 El día 18 de mayo de 2012 16:40, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió:

 A ver si lo entiendo... si no inicias NUNCA el MacOS:

 1/ ¿No te funciona el ratón ni el teclado en la BIOS/REFIT ni en GRUB2?

 No. Solo funciona si previamente ha sido emparejado en Mac. Tan pronto
 como lo emparejo en Linux deja de funcionar en el REFIT y en el GRUB2.

 Pues vaya... pero entonces ¿de qué te sirve iniciar directamente en una
 sesión de GNOME sin pasar por la pantalla de inicio de sesión? El
 problema lo vas a seguir teniendo igual.

Porque el demonio bluetooth cuando detectaba un dispositivo que aún no
estaba emparejado emitía un mensaje emergente de solicitud de
emparejamiento. El teclado para que funcione no necesita estar
emparejado, tan solo que esté detectado, con la orden  hidd --connect
dirección mac ya funciona. Para emparejar un teclado no se necesita
otro usb porque el demonio te indica que introduzcas el pin (por
omisión, 8 dígitos en mac, 6 en linux) en el teclado bluetooth y
pulses intro. El teclado comienza a funcionar.
Pero entonces ¿Donde radica el problema? Mac no lo tiene. Si es
configuración inicial en linux la situación es salvable. La dificultad
aparece cuando los servicios ya están añadidos en Debian y la sesión
anterior fue de Mac, única posibilidad que funcione en REFIT y GRUB2,
Debian trata de activar los servicios  intermitentemente con un
encendido y apagado continuo. Sin resultado positivo.
Creo que funciona con Ubuntu y con Mint.


 2/ ¿No puedes configurar el menú de REFIT para que cargue el sistema
 que elijas de manera predeterminada para no tener que usar el teclado?
 Porque GRUB2 sí lo permite.

 Con REFIT no lo se. Pero si quiero entrar en con el GRUB2 en modo
 recovery deja de funcionar y ya no deja introducir la contraseña o darle
 el Crtl+D para que continúe.

 Lo que te permite GRUB2 es definir como predeterminada una de las
 opciones del menú y que cuando termine el contador lo arranque sin
 necesidad de que lo selecciones con el teclado, que no te funciona en
 este estadio del arranque.

 Obviamente, si el teclado no te funciona en GRUB2 no puedes elegir
 ninguna otra de las opciones del menú, eso está claro.

 Es como un maletín prácticamente sin tornillos, puedes cambiar
 cualquier dispositivo en menos que canta un gallo y 27 ' . Pero ...
 cuesta 3000,00 euros. Si los Mac analizados friamente, analizando
 componentes, diseño, funcionamiento etc. No son caros.

 Pues como en los HP pero estos son 100 veces más compatibles que los
 Mac.

 No digo que no, pero en este equipo funcionó todo a la primera. No tuve
 que tocarle nada. De aquí viene mi cabreo.

 El problema es cuando algo no funciona a la primera -como en este caso-
 que estás pillado por todos los lados: no puedes contactar con Apple
 porque no dan soporte a Linux y los desarrolladores (de refit o de linux)
 no pueden hacer nada porque Apple no les da las especificaciones. Así que
 al final lo que tienes es una bonita pieza de museo, preciosa y
 bellísima, pero que no puedes usar.

 Lo que pasa es que conociendo Debian tiene que haber alguna
 instrucción que cargue el bluetooth en el inicio.

 Te ha dado fuerte ¿eh? :-)

 A ver, el BT se carga al inicio y se carga en el GDM3, otra cosa es que
 sea capaz de emparejarse con tu teclado/ratón, que eso es otro cantar y
 por eso mismo deberías abrir un informe de fallo, para ver qué es lo
 que pasa en el iMac.

 Pero por lo menos tendría que funcionar con GRUB2, cosa que no sucede.
 Tendría que hacerlo antes del GDM3.

 Pues *eso* es lo único que podrías reportar, pero si se trata de un
 problema puro y duro de hardware, mal asunto, porque los desarrolladores
 no pueden hacer nada y Apple pasa de linux.

Sin embargo en este equipo ya no se necesita bootcamp para instalar
linux. Se hace como en cualquier otro PC. En lo que se refiere al
REFIT, este ya contempla el arranque dual con linux o incluso triple.
Lo que si existe es la posibilidad de que todo el sistema arranque
desde GRUB2, sustituyendo a REFIT pero ignoro el resultado e
incidencia en el funcionamiento del bluetooth.



 Si solo tuviese linux instalado me iba a suceder lo mismo porque en GDM3
 si funciona porque previamente estuvieron emparejados en Linux, pero en
 GRUB2, No.

 Pues ya sabes... bug al canto. Así le vas cogiendo el gustillo :-)

 Entiendo que en modo recovery, igualmente tendría que funcionar.

 El modo de recuperación carga un entorno con los servicios mínimos,
 tendrás que ver si el servicio de BT para que funcionen estos
 dispositivos está activado, aunque lo dudo :-?

Claro, pero según he leído en algún google-articulo de los pocos que
hay es un fallo común con los teclados bluetooth. Aunque te comento
que hay distribuciones que consiguieron hacerlo funcionar sin
demasiadas complicaciones: Arch ...

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Re: Emparejar dispositivos bluetooth

2012-05-19 Thread Camaleón
El Sat, 19 May 2012 11:52:30 +0200, J. OCTAVIO Avalos escribió:

 El día 18 de mayo de 2012 19:46, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió:

 No. Solo funciona si previamente ha sido emparejado en Mac. Tan pronto
 como lo emparejo en Linux deja de funcionar en el REFIT y en el GRUB2.

 Pues vaya... pero entonces ¿de qué te sirve iniciar directamente en una
 sesión de GNOME sin pasar por la pantalla de inicio de sesión? El
 problema lo vas a seguir teniendo igual.

 Porque el demonio bluetooth cuando detectaba un dispositivo que aún no
 estaba emparejado emitía un mensaje emergente de solicitud de
 emparejamiento. 

Octavio, cuando estás en rEFIT o en GRUB no hay demonio bluetooh que 
valga, el sistema operativo no se ha cargado aún, así que estás en las 
mismas. Una vez dentro de GNOME (o en la pantalla de inicio de sesión) 
entonces sí puedes jugar con eso pero no antes.

 El teclado para que funcione no necesita estar emparejado, tan solo que
 esté detectado, con la orden  hidd --connect dirección mac ya
 funciona. 

Y dale... a ver, ya sabemos que en linux funciona, el problema lo tienes 
antes de cargar linux, lo tienes en la BIOS del iMac y en GRUB. Es un 
problema de hardware.

 Para emparejar un teclado no se necesita otro usb porque el demonio te
 indica que introduzcas el pin (por omisión, 8 dígitos en mac, 6 en
 linux) en el teclado bluetooth y pulses intro. El teclado comienza a
 funcionar. Pero entonces ¿Donde radica el problema? 

El problema radica en que el teclado no funciona en rEFIT una vez que ha 
sido detectado, emparejado y configurado desde Linux.

 Mac no lo tiene. 

No, hombre, claro... ya sólo faltaría eso :-)

 Si es configuración inicial en linux la situación es salvable. La 
 dificultad aparece cuando los servicios ya están añadidos en Debian y
 la sesión anterior fue de Mac, única posibilidad que funcione en REFIT
 y GRUB2, Debian trata de activar los servicios intermitentemente con un
 encendido y apagado continuo. Sin resultado positivo. 

Yo creo que se trata de un problema de hardware que se queda muerto 
(indetectable, imparejable, inútil) tras haberlo configurado desde linux.

Lo único que se me ocurre es que antes de cerrar Debian desemparejes el 
teclado y el ratón, a ver si así, volviendo a una especie de reseteo, 
te vuelve a funcionar en rEFIT (auqnue tendrás que volver a emparejarlo 
en Debian).

 Creo que funciona con Ubuntu y con Mint.

¿Crees? Carga una LiveCD, prueba y con los resultados que obtengas te 
vas director al BTS de Debian. Llevamos más de 20 correos intercambiados 
y aún no has hecho ninguna prueba. ¡¡Hace falta acción!! El problema no 
se va a solucionar solo :-)

 Pero por lo menos tendría que funcionar con GRUB2, cosa que no sucede.
 Tendría que hacerlo antes del GDM3.

 Pues *eso* es lo único que podrías reportar, pero si se trata de un
 problema puro y duro de hardware, mal asunto, porque los
 desarrolladores no pueden hacer nada y Apple pasa de linux.
 
 Sin embargo en este equipo ya no se necesita bootcamp para instalar
 linux. Se hace como en cualquier otro PC. En lo que se refiere al REFIT,
 este ya contempla el arranque dual con linux o incluso triple. Lo que si
 existe es la posibilidad de que todo el sistema arranque desde GRUB2,
 sustituyendo a REFIT pero ignoro el resultado e incidencia en el
 funcionamiento del bluetooth.

Ya sabes lo que opina rEFIT de los equipos de Apple: que los teclados y 
ratones vía BT sólo tienen soporte para MacOS y/o Windows.

 Entiendo que en modo recovery, igualmente tendría que funcionar.

 El modo de recuperación carga un entorno con los servicios mínimos,
 tendrás que ver si el servicio de BT para que funcionen estos
 dispositivos está activado, aunque lo dudo :-?

 Claro, pero según he leído en algún google-articulo de los pocos que hay
 es un fallo común con los teclados bluetooth. Aunque te comento que hay
 distribuciones que consiguieron hacerlo funcionar sin demasiadas
 complicaciones: Arch ...

¿A qué te refieres? Obviamente puedes cargar los demonios manualmente 
para que funcione el teclado/ratón BT en el modo de recuperación pero 
necesitarás hacerlo con un teclado con cable, naturalmente.

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captura de pantalla - instalación debian 6

2012-05-19 Thread Constantino Vargas
Buenas amigos, cuando se instala debian 6 hay una opción para hacer
capturas de pantallas de la secuencia de la instalación que los va
guardando en /var/log/archivo-de-la-imagen-capturado, pero después de
terminar la instalación uno quiere ver pero no encuentra nada de la
imágenes capturados.

alguien me indicar como recuperar las imágenes capturados de la
instalación, gracias


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Re: captura de pantalla - instalación debian 6

2012-05-19 Thread Alfonso Egea Callejas
El 19/05/12, Constantino Vargas consvar...@gmail.com escribió:
 Buenas amigos, cuando se instala debian 6 hay una opción para hacer
 capturas de pantallas de la secuencia de la instalación que los va
 guardando en /var/log/archivo-de-la-imagen-capturado, pero después de
 terminar la instalación uno quiere ver pero no encuentra nada de la
 imágenes capturados.

 alguien me indicar como recuperar las imágenes capturados de la
 instalación, gracias


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Hola!

Pues yo no tuve ningún problema. Recuerdo haberlo hecho la última vez
y encontrarlas sin ningún impedimento. Además las nombra según el paso
de instalación en que se hacen.

Seguro estás buscando en la ruta correcta? Ahora mismo ni la recuerdo
ni la encuentro en Google.

Saludos!

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Re: captura de pantalla - instalación debian 6

2012-05-19 Thread Camaleón
El Sat, 19 May 2012 10:26:36 -0500, Constantino Vargas escribió:

 Buenas amigos, cuando se instala debian 6 hay una opción para hacer
 capturas de pantallas de la secuencia de la instalación que los va
 guardando en /var/log/archivo-de-la-imagen-capturado, pero después de
 terminar la instalación uno quiere ver pero no encuentra nada de la
 imágenes capturados.
 
 alguien me indicar como recuperar las imágenes capturados de la
 instalación, gracias

Si has activado la opción de depuración, los registros deberían estar en 
/var/log/installer/.

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ls y break

2012-05-19 Thread Alfonso Egea Callejas
Hola a todos.

Me interesaría que en un script se utilizase el primer elemento de
una carpeta únicamente para llevar a cabo una acción. Es decir si:

$ ls carpeta
aa   bb   cc

busco una orden que devuelva aa.

Buscando con ls --help, man ls y google lo más parecido que he
encontrado es romper un ciclo for con break:

for i in `ls carpeta`; do
echo $i
break
done

pero me parece raro que no haya una opción de ls para listar
únicamente el primer elemento... sabéis si la hay?

Muchas gracias de antemano a todos.

Alfonso

PD: si no quisiese hacer más operaciones después del done, que cambia
entre el break y un exit 0? Gracias de nuevo.


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RE: captura de pantalla - instalación debian 6

2012-05-19 Thread Martin Edmundo Barriga Orozco

si persisten las molestias, esas capturas yo las haría con VirtualBox..., sin 
estress. Todo depende del uso que quieras darle, podría servirte o no.
Saludos.

 Date: Sat, 19 May 2012 17:55:24 +0200
 Subject: Re: captura de pantalla - instalación debian 6
 From: a.egeacalle...@gmail.com
 To: consvar...@gmail.com
 CC: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org
 
 El 19/05/12, Constantino Vargas consvar...@gmail.com escribió:
  Buenas amigos, cuando se instala debian 6 hay una opción para hacer
  capturas de pantallas de la secuencia de la instalación que los va
  guardando en /var/log/archivo-de-la-imagen-capturado, pero después de
  terminar la instalación uno quiere ver pero no encuentra nada de la
  imágenes capturados.
 
  alguien me indicar como recuperar las imágenes capturados de la
  instalación, gracias
 
 
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 Hola!
 
 Pues yo no tuve ningún problema. Recuerdo haberlo hecho la última vez
 y encontrarlas sin ningún impedimento. Además las nombra según el paso
 de instalación en que se hacen.
 
 Seguro estás buscando en la ruta correcta? Ahora mismo ni la recuerdo
 ni la encuentro en Google.
 
 Saludos!
 
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Re: ls y break

2012-05-19 Thread Matías A. Bellone

On 05/19/2012 01:06 PM, Alfonso Egea Callejas wrote:

Hola a todos.

Me interesaría que en un script se utilizase el primer elemento de
una carpeta únicamente para llevar a cabo una acción. Es decir si:

$ ls carpeta
aa   bb   cc

busco una orden que devuelva aa.

Buscando con ls --help, man ls y google lo más parecido que he
encontrado es romper un ciclo for con break:

for i in `ls carpeta`; do
echo $i
break
done

pero me parece raro que no haya una opción de ls para listar
únicamente el primer elemento... sabéis si la hay?



no que yo sepa, pero podés encadenar comandos y para sacar los elementos 
del tope de una lista, tenés head:


$ ls carpeta | head -n1
aa

Saludos,
Toote


PD: si no quisiese hacer más operaciones después del done, que cambia
entre el break y un exit 0? Gracias de nuevo.


Depende del modo del shell. Tengo entendido que hay shells en el que si 
no especificás el código de salida con exit, no es lo mismo que hacer 
exit 0. En particular, creo que el código de salida sería el código de 
salida de lo último ejecutado o algo así (vas a tener que confirmar)


Saludos,
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Re: ls y break

2012-05-19 Thread Camaleón
El Sat, 19 May 2012 18:06:37 +0200, Alfonso Egea Callejas escribió:

 Me interesaría que en un script se utilizase el primer elemento de una
 carpeta únicamente para llevar a cabo una acción. Es decir si:
 
 $ ls carpeta
 aa   bb   cc
 
 busco una orden que devuelva aa.
 
 Buscando con ls --help, man ls y google lo más parecido que he
 encontrado es romper un ciclo for con break:
 
 for i in `ls carpeta`; do
 echo $i
 break
 done
 
 pero me parece raro que no haya una opción de ls para listar únicamente
 el primer elemento... sabéis si la hay?

Bueno, eso no es tarea para el comando ls, recuerda que en linux se 
prefiere aplicaciones pequeñas y muy especializadas para cada cosa :-)
 
 Muchas gracias de antemano a todos.
 
 Alfonso
 
 PD: si no quisiese hacer más operaciones después del done, que cambia
 entre el break y un exit 0? Gracias de nuevo.

Aquí tienes la explicación de cada uno de ellos:

http://www.gnu.org/software/bash/manual/html_node/Bourne-Shell-Builtins.html#Bourne-Shell-Builtins

break
break [n]
Exit from a for, while, until, or select loop. If n is supplied, the nth 
enclosing loop is exited. n must be greater than or equal to 1. The 
return status is zero unless n is not greater than or equal to 1. 

exit
exit [n]
Exit the shell, returning a status of n to the shell's parent. If n is 
omitted, the exit status is that of the last command executed. Any trap 
on EXIT is executed before the shell terminates. 

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Re: ls y break

2012-05-19 Thread Alfonso Egea Callejas
El 19/05/12, Matías A. Bellone matiasbell...@gmail.com escribió:
 On 05/19/2012 01:06 PM, Alfonso Egea Callejas wrote:
 Hola a todos.

 Me interesaría que en un script se utilizase el primer elemento de
 una carpeta únicamente para llevar a cabo una acción. Es decir si:

 $ ls carpeta
 aa   bb   cc

 busco una orden que devuelva aa.

 Buscando con ls --help, man ls y google lo más parecido que he
 encontrado es romper un ciclo for con break:

 for i in `ls carpeta`; do
 echo $i
 break
 done

 pero me parece raro que no haya una opción de ls para listar
 únicamente el primer elemento... sabéis si la hay?


 no que yo sepa, pero podés encadenar comandos y para sacar los elementos
 del tope de una lista, tenés head:

 $ ls carpeta | head -n1
 aa

Sí, acabo de encontrarlo también. Usando pipes entre ls y head o tail
puedes obtener todas las combinaciones posibles. Ejemplo:

$ ls carpeta | head -2#muestra los dos primeros
aa
bb

$ ls carpeta | tail -1  #muestra el último
cc

$ ls carpeta | head -2 | tail -1   #muestra el segundo
bb

Lástima no poder acceder a la posición deseada directamente con ls
para que quedase más limpio :( pero bueno, todo tiene solución :D

Saludos y muchas gracias Toote!

Alfonso


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Re: ls y break

2012-05-19 Thread Alfonso Egea Callejas
El 19/05/12, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió:
 El Sat, 19 May 2012 18:06:37 +0200, Alfonso Egea Callejas escribió:

 Me interesaría que en un script se utilizase el primer elemento de una
 carpeta únicamente para llevar a cabo una acción. Es decir si:

 $ ls carpeta
 aa   bb   cc

 busco una orden que devuelva aa.

 Buscando con ls --help, man ls y google lo más parecido que he
 encontrado es romper un ciclo for con break:

 for i in `ls carpeta`; do
 echo $i
 break
 done

 pero me parece raro que no haya una opción de ls para listar únicamente
 el primer elemento... sabéis si la hay?

 Bueno, eso no es tarea para el comando ls, recuerda que en linux se
 prefiere aplicaciones pequeñas y muy especializadas para cada cosa :-)

Cierto, y de hecho me parece muy bien, pero como últimamente me paso
el día en R esperaba algo como carpeta[1] o carpeta[2] :P del estilo

$ ls carpeta -1
o
$ ls carpeta --position=1


 Muchas gracias de antemano a todos.

 Alfonso

 PD: si no quisiese hacer más operaciones después del done, que cambia
 entre el break y un exit 0? Gracias de nuevo.

 Aquí tienes la explicación de cada uno de ellos:

 http://www.gnu.org/software/bash/manual/html_node/Bourne-Shell-Builtins.html#Bourne-Shell-Builtins

 break
 break [n]
 Exit from a for, while, until, or select loop. If n is supplied, the nth
 enclosing loop is exited. n must be greater than or equal to 1. The
 return status is zero unless n is not greater than or equal to 1.

 exit
 exit [n]
 Exit the shell, returning a status of n to the shell's parent. If n is
 omitted, the exit status is that of the last command executed. Any trap
 on EXIT is executed before the shell terminates.

Ok, en el caso de mi aplicación no tiene mucha importancia, pero
muchas gracias! Me has hecho descubrir select :)

Saludos,

Alfonso


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Problema con mysql cluster

2012-05-19 Thread Maykel Franco Hernández
Hola muy buenas, he implementado mysql cluster en debian lenny y la 
verdad es que va bastante bien. Estoy tratando de importar una bbdd que 
es bastante grande, ocupa 16 GB.


Al hacer un:

mysql -u root -p database  mysql.sql

Me reporta el siguiente error:

Table is full...

He estado mirando desde el cliente management de administración 
ejecutando este comando:


ALL REPORT MEMORY USAGE

Y se ve como poco a poco va subiendo el index y el data:

ndb_mgm ALL REPORT MEMORY USAGE
Node 2: Data usage is 80%(63 32K pages of total 8192)
Node 2: Index usage is 7%(60 8K pages of total 8224)
Node 3: Data usage is 81%(63 32K pages of total 8192)
Node 3: Index usage is 7%(60 8K pages of total 8224)

Cuando llega ya cerca del 91% se cae la importación del sql y devuelve:

ERROR 1114 (HY000) at line 227: The table 'table_log' is full

He estado mirando en la documentación de mysql y dice que el mysql 
cluster soporta comom áximo 8192MB de Data Memory.


He probado a subirle el IndexMemory y el DataMemory a por ejemplo 16000 
pero sigue con el mismo error. Es más, al ejecutarle el ALL REPORT 
MEMORY USAGE sigue teniendo 8192.


Alguien me puede hechar una mano??

Saludos.




Re: Problema con mysql cluster

2012-05-19 Thread Matías Bellone
2012/5/19 Maykel Franco Hernández may...@maykel.sytes.net:
 Hola muy buenas, he implementado mysql cluster en debian lenny y la verdad
 es que va bastante bien. Estoy tratando de importar una bbdd que es bastante
 grande, ocupa 16 GB.

 Al hacer un:

 mysql -u root -p database  mysql.sql

 Me reporta el siguiente error:

 Table is full...

 He estado mirando desde el cliente management de administración ejecutando
 este comando:

 ALL REPORT MEMORY USAGE

 Y se ve como poco a poco va subiendo el index y el data:

 ndb_mgm ALL REPORT MEMORY USAGE
 Node 2: Data usage is 80%(63 32K pages of total 8192)
 Node 2: Index usage is 7%(60 8K pages of total 8224)
 Node 3: Data usage is 81%(63 32K pages of total 8192)
 Node 3: Index usage is 7%(60 8K pages of total 8224)

Eso aparentemente te dice la cantidad de páginas que tiene, no la
cantidad de memoria utilizada.


 Cuando llega ya cerca del 91% se cae la importación del sql y devuelve:

 ERROR 1114 (HY000) at line 227: The table 'table_log' is full

 He estado mirando en la documentación de mysql y dice que el mysql cluster
 soporta comom áximo 8192MB de Data Memory.

Depende de la versión, por lo que dice el manual de MySQL 5.0[1] tanto
DataMemory como IndexMemory pueden ser entre 1Mb y 1Tb

[1] 
http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/mysql-cluster-ndbd-definition.html#ndbparam-ndbd-datamemory


 He probado a subirle el IndexMemory y el DataMemory a por ejemplo 16000 pero
 sigue con el mismo error. Es más, al ejecutarle el ALL REPORT MEMORY USAGE
 sigue teniendo 8192.

Estás leyendo mal los números reportados.

Creo que la siguiente aclaración del manual podría ser lo que ocurre en tu caso:

Currently, MySQL Cluster can use a maximum of 512 MB for hash indexes
per partition, which means in some cases it is possible to get Table
is full errors in MySQL client applications even when ndb_mgm -e ALL
REPORT MEMORYUSAGE shows significant free DataMemory. This can also
pose a problem with data node restarts on nodes that are heavily
loaded with data. You can force NDB to create extra partitions for
MySQL Cluster tables and thus have more memory available for hash
indexes by using the MAX_ROWS option for CREATE TABLE. In general,
setting MAX_ROWS to twice the number of rows that you expect to store
in the table should be sufficient.

Eso quiere decir que si tenés demasiadas filas en una sola partición
con índices de ese tipo, estás llegando a ese límite.

Saludos,
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Que alternativas a apache recomiendan para linux

2012-05-19 Thread Carlos Carcamo
Saludos a todos.

Estaba buscando una alternativa al servidor web apache para usar en
tanto en debian como windows, realmente mi pregunta es si hay uno
mejor que apache,
pues siempre he usado apache pero no se si me estoy perdiendo de algo
al no usar otro servidor, que me recomiendan seguir con apache o
buscar otras alternativas mejores?

Buscando en la web encontré una comparación entre Apache y Nginx, en
la cual se destacaba Nginx pero no muestran en que se basa la
comparación.

Que recomiendan para utilizar con linux...







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Re: Que alternativas a apache recomiendan para linux

2012-05-19 Thread Marc Aymerich
2012/5/20 Carlos Carcamo eazyd...@gmail.com:
 Saludos a todos.

 Estaba buscando una alternativa al servidor web apache para usar en
 tanto en debian como windows, realmente mi pregunta es si hay uno
 mejor que apache,
 pues siempre he usado apache pero no se si me estoy perdiendo de algo
 al no usar otro servidor, que me recomiendan seguir con apache o
 buscar otras alternativas mejores?

 Buscando en la web encontré una comparación entre Apache y Nginx, en
 la cual se destacaba Nginx pero no muestran en que se basa la
 comparación.

 Que recomiendan para utilizar con linux...


Apache es el servidor web más usado y flexible. Otros como ngnix,
cherokee o lighttpd son más ligeros, lo que normalmente se refleja
en mejor desempeño (manejan más peticiones por segundo) cuando se
comparan con Apache. Aunque no me extrañaría que un Apache pelado, es
decir, con los mínimos módulos y funciones activas, rinda equivalente
o mejor que sus compañeros.

Realmente si no te obsesiona el rendimiento lo mejor es quedarse con
Apache, ya que es de lejos el más ampliamente soportado y documentado.



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Re: Que alternativas a apache recomiendan para linux

2012-05-19 Thread Pablo Jiménez
On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 04:05:50PM -0600, Carlos Carcamo wrote:
 Saludos a todos.
 
 Estaba buscando una alternativa al servidor web apache para usar en
 tanto en debian como windows, realmente mi pregunta es si hay uno
 mejor que apache,
 pues siempre he usado apache pero no se si me estoy perdiendo de algo
 al no usar otro servidor, que me recomiendan seguir con apache o
 buscar otras alternativas mejores?
 
 Buscando en la web encontré una comparación entre Apache y Nginx, en
 la cual se destacaba Nginx pero no muestran en que se basa la
 comparación.
 
 Que recomiendan para utilizar con linux...

¿Tienes claras todas tus necesidades respecto a un servidor web? Porque 
eso condiciona bastante la respuesta, junto al tema del sistema 
operativo que mencionas.

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Re: Que alternativas a apache recomiendan para linux

2012-05-19 Thread Pablo Zuñiga
El 19 de mayo de 2012 18:05, Carlos Carcamo eazyd...@gmail.com escribió:

 Saludos a todos.

 Estaba buscando una alternativa al servidor web apache para usar en
 tanto en debian como windows, realmente mi pregunta es si hay uno
 mejor que apache,
 pues siempre he usado apache pero no se si me estoy perdiendo de algo
 al no usar otro servidor, que me recomiendan seguir con apache o
 buscar otras alternativas mejores?

 Buscando en la web encontré una comparación entre Apache y Nginx, en
 la cual se destacaba Nginx pero no muestran en que se basa la
 comparación.

 Que recomiendan para utilizar con linux...







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depende para para que lo necesites,

tienes monkey, cherokee, nginx, etc.

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Re: Que alternativas a apache recomiendan para linux

2012-05-19 Thread Pablo Zuñiga
El 19 de mayo de 2012 19:54, Pablo Zuñiga pabl...@gmail.com escribió:



 El 19 de mayo de 2012 18:05, Carlos Carcamo eazyd...@gmail.com escribió:

 Saludos a todos.

 Estaba buscando una alternativa al servidor web apache para usar en
 tanto en debian como windows, realmente mi pregunta es si hay uno
 mejor que apache,
 pues siempre he usado apache pero no se si me estoy perdiendo de algo
 al no usar otro servidor, que me recomiendan seguir con apache o
 buscar otras alternativas mejores?

 Buscando en la web encontré una comparación entre Apache y Nginx, en
 la cual se destacaba Nginx pero no muestran en que se basa la
 comparación.

 Que recomiendan para utilizar con linux...







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 depende para para que lo necesites,

 tienes monkey, cherokee, nginx, etc.

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Tambien tienes http://lmgtfy.com/?q=servidores+web+en+linux

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Re: ls y break

2012-05-19 Thread Carlos Albornoz
2012/5/19 Alfonso Egea Callejas a.egeacalle...@gmail.com:
 El 19/05/12, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió:
 El Sat, 19 May 2012 18:06:37 +0200, Alfonso Egea Callejas escribió:

 Me interesaría que en un script se utilizase el primer elemento de una
 carpeta únicamente para llevar a cabo una acción. Es decir si:

 $ ls carpeta
 aa   bb   cc

 busco una orden que devuelva aa.

 Buscando con ls --help, man ls y google lo más parecido que he
 encontrado es romper un ciclo for con break:

 for i in `ls carpeta`; do
 echo $i
 break
 done

 pero me parece raro que no haya una opción de ls para listar únicamente
 el primer elemento... sabéis si la hay?

 Bueno, eso no es tarea para el comando ls, recuerda que en linux se
 prefiere aplicaciones pequeñas y muy especializadas para cada cosa :-)

 Cierto, y de hecho me parece muy bien, pero como últimamente me paso
 el día en R esperaba algo como carpeta[1] o carpeta[2] :P del estilo

 $ ls carpeta -1
 o
 $ ls carpeta --position=1


 Muchas gracias de antemano a todos.

 Alfonso

 PD: si no quisiese hacer más operaciones después del done, que cambia
 entre el break y un exit 0? Gracias de nuevo.

 Aquí tienes la explicación de cada uno de ellos:

 http://www.gnu.org/software/bash/manual/html_node/Bourne-Shell-Builtins.html#Bourne-Shell-Builtins

 break
 break [n]
 Exit from a for, while, until, or select loop. If n is supplied, the nth
 enclosing loop is exited. n must be greater than or equal to 1. The
 return status is zero unless n is not greater than or equal to 1.

 exit
 exit [n]
 Exit the shell, returning a status of n to the shell's parent. If n is
 omitted, the exit status is that of the last command executed. Any trap
 on EXIT is executed before the shell terminates.

 Ok, en el caso de mi aplicación no tiene mucha importancia, pero
 muchas gracias! Me has hecho descubrir select :)

 Saludos,

 Alfonso


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Re: aptitude changelog gives You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list

2012-05-19 Thread Tom H
On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 3:25 PM, Arnt Karlsen a...@c2i.net wrote:
 On Fri, 18 May 2012 17:04:02 + (UTC), Camaleón wrote in message
 jp5ve2$jg9$1...@dough.gmane.org:

 You have no source repo listed.

 deb-src http://cdn.debian.net/debian testing main contrib non-free

 ..if you _never_ install source, you don't need deb-src lines.

True, but aptitude changelog ... seems to require deb-src ... entries:

Without deb-src ...

# aptitude changelog grub-pc
Err Changelog of grub-pc
E: You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list
E: Changelog download failed: Download queue destroyed.
E: Couldn't find a changelog for grub-pc

With deb-src ...

# aptitude changelog grub-pc
Err Changelog of grub-pc
E: Changelog download failed: 404  Not Found
E: Couldn't find a changelog for grub-pc


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Re: LSI MegaRAID SAS 9240-4i hangs system at boot

2012-05-19 Thread Ramon Hofer
On Fri, 18 May 2012 17:57:56 -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote:

 On 5/18/2012 9:39 AM, Shane Johnson wrote:

 After that I would look to see if
 something isn't shorting out a USB port.
 
 Yes, USB is the cause of the over-current errors, which is plainly
 evident in his screen shot.  But we don't yet know if this USB problem
 is what's hanging the system.  Further troubleshooting is required.

The strange thing is as I mentioned in another post is that on the mb usb 
port 8 there's nothing attached and I haven't found where port 7 is :-?


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Re: aptitude changelog gives You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list

2012-05-19 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 18 May 2012 21:25:25 +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote:

 On Fri, 18 May 2012 17:04:02 + (UTC), Camaleón wrote in message
 jp5ve2$jg9$1...@dough.gmane.org:
 
 You have no source repo listed.
 
 deb-src http://cdn.debian.net/debian testing main contrib non-free
 
 ..if you _never_ install source, you don't need deb-src lines. 

(...)

If you want to get rid of the above error, yes _you do_ (see Tom's 
comment) ;-)

Anyway, I guess that can be a comestic error, the main problem was 
already reported in BTS (#669569).

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Re: Wheezy: aptitude update fails

2012-05-19 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 18 May 2012 15:20:24 -0700, T Elcor wrote:

 --- On Fri, 5/18/12, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Get: 3 http://ftp.us.debian.org wheezy/non-free Translation-en [61.5
 kB] Err http://ftp.us.debian.org wheezy/main Translation-en
   404  Not Found [IP: 128.61.240.89 80]
 
 Is this still hitting you? It could have been a transient error :-?
 
 Still having this problem. Weird, IPs change, so it doesn't look like a
 single failed server problem.

Weird... I'm also using wheezy and haven't experienced any problem though 
I use apt-get update  apt-get -V dist-upgrade to update the system.

Are you (or your ISP) behind some kind of proxy?

 Tip: you can use a one-liner instead: deb
 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main non-free
 
 Tried it, the error is still there.

Yes, it was just a cosmetic tip. I like having things ordered O:-)

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Re: LSI MegaRAID SAS 9240-4i hangs system at boot

2012-05-19 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 18 May 2012 21:55:36 +, Ramon Hofer wrote:

 On Fri, 18 May 2012 20:18:46 +, Camaleón wrote:
 
 Are you running Squeeze?
 
 Yes, sorry forgot to mention.
 
 I installed squeeze amd64 yesterday on a raid1 (just to try). Today when
 the card was here I put it in and couldn't boot. Then I installed
 squeeze with the card present without problems but booting afterwards
 didn't work again.
 Without the card installed bpo amd64 kernel but couldn't boot again.

You have to be extremely precise while describing the situation because 
there are missing pieces in the above stanza and the whole steps you 
followed :-)

Okay, let's start over. 

You installed the lsi card in one of the motherboard slots, configured 
the BIOS to use a JBOD disk layout and then boot the installation CD for 
Squeeze, right? 

The installation proccess was smoothly (you selected a mdadm 
configuration for the disks and then formatted them with no problems), 
when the installer finished and the system first rebooted, you selected 
the new installed system from GRUB2's menu and then, the booting proccess 
halted displaying the mentioned messages in the screen, right?

 And you installed the system with no glitches and then it hangs?
 
 Without the LSI card there are no problems (except the over-current
 message which is also present with only the mb and a disk). Installation
 works ok with and without card.

So you think the system stalls because of the raid card despite you get 
the same output messages at boot and there's no additional evidence of a 
problem related to the hard disks or the controller.

Mmm... weird it is, my young padawan :-) that's for sure but it can be 
something coming from your Supermicro motherboard's BIOS and the raid 
controller. Check if there's a BIOS update for your motherboard (but just 
check, don't install!) and if so, ask Supermicro technical support about 
the exact problems it corrects and tell them you are using a LSI raid 
card and you're having problems to boot your system from it.

 What's the point for listing the USB devices? :-?
 
 Because I thought I should mention the over-current message and it's
 related to usb.
 But I think it's a completely different thing. And I don't even know
 where port 7 is but port 8 is definitely empty :-?

Yes, I agree. It seems an unrelated problem that you can try to solve 
once you correct the booting issue if the error still persists.

 Something wrong with udevd when listing an usb?? device or hub.
 
 Ok, unfortunately I have no clue what this means. But this message isn't
 there without card but it's pci-e?

Ah, that's a very interesting discovery, man. To me it can mean the 
motherboard is not correctly detecting the card, hence a BIOS issue.

 Those messages are coming from the kernel side but I can't guess the
 source that trigger them.
 
 How can I find out what they mean? It seems as if many different
 problems lead to such messages?

I would center first in solving the core of the problem.

 Mmm... the strange here is that there is no clear indication about the
 nature of the problem, that is, what's preventing your system from
 booting. Can you at least get into the single-user mode?
 
 I can't get to any login. Or is there a way to get into single-user
 mode? If you mean recovery mode: no luck either :-(

Are you reaching the GRUB2 menu? If yes, you can select recovery mode/
single-user mode.

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Re: LSI MegaRAID SAS 9240-4i hangs system at boot

2012-05-19 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 5/19/2012 2:52 AM, Ramon Hofer wrote:
 On Fri, 18 May 2012 17:57:56 -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
 
 On 5/18/2012 9:39 AM, Shane Johnson wrote:

 After that I would look to see if
 something isn't shorting out a USB port.

 Yes, USB is the cause of the over-current errors, which is plainly
 evident in his screen shot.  But we don't yet know if this USB problem
 is what's hanging the system.  Further troubleshooting is required.
 
 The strange thing is as I mentioned in another post is that on the mb usb 
 port 8 there's nothing attached and I haven't found where port 7 is :-?

I wouldn't worry about the USB errors at this point.  Unless there is
some larger issue with insufficient power on the motherboard causing the
USB current error, it's likely unrelated to the storage hardware issue.
 Fix it first, then worry about the USB errors.  Given you have no
device plugged into those ports, it could be a phantom error.

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Re: LSI MegaRAID SAS 9240-4i hangs system at boot

2012-05-19 Thread Ramon Hofer
On Fri, 18 May 2012 18:28:05 -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote:

 On 5/18/2012 4:55 PM, Ramon Hofer wrote:
 
 I installed squeeze amd64 yesterday on a raid1 (just to try).
 
 You need to explain this in detail:  installed on raid1
 
 Installed onto what raid1?  Does this mean you created an mdadm raid1
 pair during the Squeeze installation process, and installed to that?  To
 what SAS/SATA controller are these two disks attached?  Please provide
 as much detail as possible about this controller chip and if it is on
 the motherboard.  If so, please provide the motherboard brand/model.

Sorry I try to give you some more details. But to be honest I'm just an 
interested consumer ;-)
What I want to say is that probably I just don't know how to get the 
information. Like I can't get to the syslog when the system doesn't boot. 
But I hope with your help I can learn about ways on how to get to the 
information :-)

I installed Squeeze AMD64 Netinstall to a raid1 with the disks directly 
attached to the mainboard. During installation I partitioned the disks, 
set the filesystem to raid and created md raids during the installation 
then chose the md raids to be mounted as /boot, swap, /, /var, /usr, /tmp 
and /home.
This was just done because of curiosity.

Now the same system partitions are directly on one of the disks. It is 
still attached directly to the mainboard

The mainboard is a Supermicro C7P67 with a Marvel 88SE91xx adapter 
onboard.


 Then I installed squeeze
 with the card present without problems but booting afterwards didn't
 work again.
 
 Detail, detail detail!  To what did you install Squeeze?  Which disks,
 attached to which controller?  We *NEED* these details to assist you.

The system was installed to a disk directly attached to the mainboard. I 
thought it might be a good idea anyway to use the SATA ports on the 
mainboard for the os disk.


 Without the card installed bpo amd64 kernel but couldn't boot again.
 
 If you installed to disks attached to the expander/9240 and then yanked
 the card, of course it wouldn't boot.  Again, this is why we need
 *details*.  ALWAYS supply the details!

No, sorry for all the misunderstanding.

Even if I only have the os disks (attached to the mainboard), the lsi 
card and the expander (both mounted on pci-e x16 ports on the mainboard) 
the system hangs on after the first three messages (megasas: INIT adapter 
done and the two over-current messages).

And when I remove the LSI card only I see the over-current messages and 
the system boot just fine.

As well when I remove the expander as well I see the over-current 
messages and the system boots fine.


 Without the LSI card there are no problems (except the over-current
 message which is also present with only the mb and a disk).
 Installation works ok with and without card.
 
 Ok, so the USB over-current error has nothing to do with the hang during
 boot.

Yes, this is what I think as well but didn't want to keep quiet about 
that.

 Nevertheless I think the module for the card should be loaded but
 then it somehow hangs.
 
 Only full dmesg output will tell us this.

Yes. Unfortunately I don't know how to get the output when I can't login.

Oh ok, now I have removed the card again and found some interesting logs.

/var/log/syslog:
http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=00rN1X8s

/var/log/installer/syslog:
http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=sDmjbeey

/var/log/installer/hardware-summary:
http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=V8fX4F0W


 Ok. But I have no clue either how to find this out. Maybe you could
 point into the right direction :-)
 
 Again, do not flash the HBA firmware at this point.  Provide the details
 I requested and we'll move forward from there.  It may very well be that
 the RAID firmware is causing the boot problem and you need the straight
 JBOD firmware, but lets get all the other details first so we can
 determine that instead of making wild guesses.
 
 BTW, did you disable all boot related options in the 9240 BIOS and
 force it to JBOD mode?  Did you read the instructions in their entirety
 before mounting the HBA into the machine?  This isn't a $20 SATA card
 you simply slap in and go.  It's an SAS RAID controller.  More
 care/learning is required.

To be honest I have never worked with anything else than the usual 
consumer products.
So the most of the terms I don't understand. But I will work harder I 
read how to disable these options.
What I saw is that it sets the disks connected to the expander to jbod 
mode.
And I disbled the cards BIOS completely but with no luck.


I hope this helps a bit but please be gentle with a hobbyist :-)


Best regards
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Re: Wheezy: aptitude update fails

2012-05-19 Thread T Elcor
--- On Sat, 5/19/12, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:

 Weird... I'm also using wheezy and haven't experienced any
 problem though 
 I use apt-get update  apt-get -V dist-upgrade to
 update the system.
 
 Are you (or your ISP) behind some kind of proxy?

Not that I know of. Besides, I can access the following URLs from the browser 
without any problems:
  http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/wheezy/main/
  http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/wheezy/non-free/

It's beginning to look like an aptitude problem to me.


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problem with power button

2012-05-19 Thread Long Wind
I install squeeze, the power button on front panel of PC works
I can shutdown squeeze by pressing button
but later it doesn't work, I'm not sure of the cause
maybe it's caused by removing/reinstalling kernel
that is, I remove the default kernel to install kernel 2.4
kernel 2.4 doesn't look OK, so I install kernel 2.6.32-5-686
every thing else works fine, except power button
I have to enter shutdown -h now

Can you help me?
or I have to reinstall squeeze


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Re: problem with power button

2012-05-19 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 19 mai 12, 06:13:14, Long Wind wrote:
 I install squeeze, the power button on front panel of PC works
 I can shutdown squeeze by pressing button
 but later it doesn't work, I'm not sure of the cause
 maybe it's caused by removing/reinstalling kernel
 that is, I remove the default kernel to install kernel 2.4
 kernel 2.4 doesn't look OK, so I install kernel 2.6.32-5-686
 every thing else works fine, except power button
 I have to enter shutdown -h now

AFAIR the power button is generating some ACPI events, which are then 
interpreted by software to trigger some action (e.g. shutdown -h now).

While experimenting with 2.4 did you:
- uninstall packages? (check apt/aptitude/dpkg logs)
- change BIOS options?
- ...

Just booting with another kernel (even if 2.4) should not trigger such 
permanent changes unless files were corrupted (fsck ok?) or you damaged 
your hardware (highly unlikely), but you might want to try completely 
unplugging your computer.

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Re: LSI MegaRAID SAS 9240-4i hangs system at boot

2012-05-19 Thread Ramon Hofer
On Fri, 18 May 2012 17:47:54 -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote:

 On 5/18/2012 9:23 AM, Ramon Hofer wrote:
 Hi all
 
 I finally got my LSI 9240-4i and the Intel SAS expander.
 
 Unfortunately it prevents the system from booting. I only got this
 message on the screen:
 
 megasas: INIT adapter done
 hub 4-1:1.0 over-current condition on port 7 hub 4-1:1.0 over-current
 condition on port 8
 
 These over-current errors are reported by USB, not megasas.  Unplug all
 of your USB devices until you get everything else running.

Even when I plug out the chassis usb connector and only have the onboard 
usb connectors from the mainboard without connected anything to it the 
message remains.

This is the device 1 on bus 4 right? So it should be ID 1d6b:0002 Linux 
Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus?

 I also got the over-current messages when the LSI card is removed.
 Here's the output of lsusb:
 
 Bus 004 Device 003: ID 046d:c517 Logitech, Inc. LX710 Cordless Desktop
 Laser
 Bus 004 Device 002: ID 8087:0024 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching
 Hub Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus
 001 Device 002: ID 8087:0024 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching Hub
 Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 003
 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub Bus 002 Device
 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
 
 Again, this is because the over-current issue has nothing to with the
 HBA, but the USB subsystem.

Yes this might have nothing to do with the problem. But I still wanted to 
mention it because I didn't know if it's related or not. Or if I should 
worry about it.

Mainboards somethimes say strange things :-)
On my htpc I always have the message cpu fan error probably because I 
have a big passive cooler and use the chassis fans to cool them.
And this was no problems so far too.


 Nevertheless I think the module for the card should be loaded but then
 it somehow hangs.
 
 You're assuming it's the HBA/module hanging the system.  I see no
 evidence of that so far.

I came to that conclusion because when the card is mounted to system 
stops during booting.
When the card is remove the system boots.
There's this over-current problem that could cause something.
And maybe the pci-e slots have to do something with it. But I have 
plugged the lsi card to both pci-e x16 slots on the mainboard but both 
times the system didn't boot.
And the expander only uses the slot to draw it's power.

And I tried to switch the LSI bios off.

These are the things I tried to isolate the problem but unfortunately I 
don't have any other ideas.
I will now thoroughly study the lsi documentary...


 And after a while there are more messages which I don't understand. I
 have taken a picture:
 http://666kb.com/i/c3wf606sc1qkcvgoc.jpg
 
 It shows that udev is having serious trouble handling one of the USB
 devices.

Yes but only when the lsi card is attached. When it's removed the 
messages don't appear. And I don't even have anything connected to the usb 
ports. Really confusing...
I thought I had the same messages with the Supermicro AOC-SASLP-MV8 
cards :-?
But when I switched to the bpo amd64 kernel it _seemed_ ok.

This is why I hoped with the megaraid module it would be the same.

Btw just left of the Ext. LED connector there's the CR1 LED constantly 
(from the moment the system is powered) blinking with a 1 sec on / 1 sec 
off period. I couldn't find the meaning of this LED in the LSI documents. 
But to be honest I didn't read through the 500 page manual. Which I will 
do now :-)


 Then there are lots of messages like this:
 
 INFO: task modprobe:123 blocked for more than 120 seconds. echo 0...
 disables this message
 
 Instead of modprobe:123 also modprobe:124, 125, 126, 127, 135, 137 and
 kworker/u:1:164, 165 are listed.
 
 Posting log snippets like this is totally useless.  Please post your
 entire dmesg output to pastebin and provide the link.

I didn't have the idea yesterday that I could use the files under /var/
log. I was only missing the possibility to type dmesg in a terminal when 
the error occurs.

But I have posted some logs in my previous post. I hope these help more.

 I can enter the BIOS of the card just fine. It detect the disks and by
 defaults sets jbod option for them. This is fine because I want to use
 linux RAID.
 
 Sure, because the card and expander are working properly.

Yes, now I only have to convice the os to accept this :-)


 May this problem be the same:
 http://www.spinics.net/lists/raid/msg30359.html Should I try a firmware
 upgrade?
 
 Your hang problem seems unrelated to the HBA.  Exhaust all other
 possibilities before attempting a firmware upgrade.  If there is some
 other system level problem, it could botch the FW upgrade and brick the
 card, leaving you in a far worse situation than you are now.
 
 Post your FW version here.  It's likely pretty recent already.

The FW version is 2.70.04-0862.

I have a little confusion with the versioning 

Re: LSI MegaRAID SAS 9240-4i hangs system at boot

2012-05-19 Thread Ramon Hofer
On Sat, 19 May 2012 04:19:33 -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote:

 On 5/19/2012 2:52 AM, Ramon Hofer wrote:
 On Fri, 18 May 2012 17:57:56 -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
 
 On 5/18/2012 9:39 AM, Shane Johnson wrote:

 After that I would look to see if
 something isn't shorting out a USB port.

 Yes, USB is the cause of the over-current errors, which is plainly
 evident in his screen shot.  But we don't yet know if this USB problem
 is what's hanging the system.  Further troubleshooting is required.
 
 The strange thing is as I mentioned in another post is that on the mb
 usb port 8 there's nothing attached and I haven't found where port 7 is
 :-?
 
 I wouldn't worry about the USB errors at this point.  Unless there is
 some larger issue with insufficient power on the motherboard causing the
 USB current error, it's likely unrelated to the storage hardware issue.
  Fix it first, then worry about the USB errors.  Given you have no
 device plugged into those ports, it could be a phantom error.

Yes I hope you're right with the phantom error :-)
Especially because I can't find port 7. No label on the mb pcb nor in 
it's documentation.


Best regards
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Re: Wheezy: aptitude update fails

2012-05-19 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 19 May 2012 02:38:56 -0700, T Elcor wrote:

 --- On Sat, 5/19/12, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Weird... I'm also using wheezy and haven't experienced any problem
 though
 I use apt-get update  apt-get -V dist-upgrade to update the system.
 
 Are you (or your ISP) behind some kind of proxy?
 
 Not that I know of. Besides, I can access the following URLs from the
 browser without any problems:
   http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/wheezy/main/
   http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/wheezy/non-free/

Oh, of course the file is there and accesible via browser, but that tells 
you little because you are connected to a dynamic mirror, it redirects 
you to a different server every time:

sm01@stt008:~$ host ftp.us.debian.org
ftp.us.debian.org has address 128.61.240.89
ftp.us.debian.org has address 199.6.12.70
ftp.us.debian.org has address 35.9.37.225
ftp.us.debian.org has address 64.50.233.100
ftp.us.debian.org has address 64.50.236.52
ftp.us.debian.org has address 128.30.2.36
ftp.us.debian.org has IPv6 address 2610:148:1f10:3::89
ftp.us.debian.org has IPv6 address 2001:500:61:28::70

Okay, you can try with a different mirror. Edit your sources.list file 
and keep only this line (comment out # the rest):

deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main non-free

Then jump to a console and run:

apt-get update  apt-get -V dist-upgrade

And put here the output.
 
 It's beginning to look like an aptitude problem to me.

That would make sense if apt-get worked. If apt-get fails in the same 
way, you're stuck at the same unknown point :-)

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Re: problem with power button

2012-05-19 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 19 May 2012 06:13:14 -0400, Long Wind wrote:

 I install squeeze, the power button on front panel of PC works I can
 shutdown squeeze by pressing button but later it doesn't work, I'm not
 sure of the cause maybe it's caused by removing/reinstalling kernel that
 is, I remove the default kernel to install kernel 2.4 kernel 2.4 doesn't
 look OK, so I install kernel 2.6.32-5-686 every thing else works fine,
 except power button I have to enter shutdown -h now

- So you installed squeeze → it worked

- Then you installed an old kernel (you self-compiled it?) → nothing 
worked (that's normal...)

- Then you reinstalled squeeze's stock kernel but the power button is 
still not working

 Can you help me?
 or I have to reinstall squeeze

Check whether the associated event has been registered correctly:

dmesg | grep -i power

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Re: LSI MegaRAID SAS 9240-4i hangs system at boot

2012-05-19 Thread Ramon Hofer
On Sat, 19 May 2012 09:09:52 +, Camaleón wrote:

 On Fri, 18 May 2012 21:55:36 +, Ramon Hofer wrote:
 
 On Fri, 18 May 2012 20:18:46 +, Camaleón wrote:
  
 Are you running Squeeze?
 
 Yes, sorry forgot to mention.
 
 I installed squeeze amd64 yesterday on a raid1 (just to try). Today
 when the card was here I put it in and couldn't boot. Then I installed
 squeeze with the card present without problems but booting afterwards
 didn't work again.
 Without the card installed bpo amd64 kernel but couldn't boot again.
 
 You have to be extremely precise while describing the situation because
 there are missing pieces in the above stanza and the whole steps you
 followed :-)

Ok, sorry for that! I try to improve :-)


 Okay, let's start over.
 
 You installed the lsi card in one of the motherboard slots, configured
 the BIOS to use a JBOD disk layout and then boot the installation CD for
 Squeeze, right?

Yes, but I didn't set the LSI BIOS to use the cards as jbod it did it 
automatically.

In the cards BIOS I saw that virtual drives can be setup. But since I 
want to use them as jbod I don't think I have to set virtual drives.
The Controller Property pages are very hard to understand.
So I tried with the factory default.


 The installation proccess was smoothly (you selected a mdadm
 configuration for the disks and then formatted them with no problems),
 when the installer finished and the system first rebooted, you selected
 the new installed system from GRUB2's menu and then, the booting
 proccess halted displaying the mentioned messages in the screen, right?

Exactly.
I only saw the three messages (megasas: INIT adapter done and the over-
currents) for some time. Then the screen was filled with the timeout and 
udev messages.


 And you installed the system with no glitches and then it hangs?
 
 Without the LSI card there are no problems (except the over-current
 message which is also present with only the mb and a disk).
 Installation works ok with and without card.
 
 So you think the system stalls because of the raid card despite you get
 the same output messages at boot and there's no additional evidence of a
 problem related to the hard disks or the controller.

I only get the two over current lines always.
The timeout and udev errors don't appear when the card is removed.


 Mmm... weird it is, my young padawan :-) that's for sure but it can be
 something coming from your Supermicro motherboard's BIOS and the raid
 controller. Check if there's a BIOS update for your motherboard (but
 just check, don't install!) and if so, ask Supermicro technical support
 about the exact problems it corrects and tell them you are using a LSI
 raid card and you're having problems to boot your system from it.

Thanks Master Camaleón :-D
The mb BIOS version is 2.10.1206. But I couldn't find the current 
version. They only write R 2.0.
And the readmes in the firmware zip don't tell me more.

I will email Supermicro to ask them.


 What's the point for listing the USB devices? :-?
 
 Because I thought I should mention the over-current message and it's
 related to usb.
 But I think it's a completely different thing. And I don't even know
 where port 7 is but port 8 is definitely empty :-?
 
 Yes, I agree. It seems an unrelated problem that you can try to solve
 once you correct the booting issue if the error still persists.

Will do that :-)


 Something wrong with udevd when listing an usb?? device or hub.
 
 Ok, unfortunately I have no clue what this means. But this message
 isn't there without card but it's pci-e?
 
 Ah, that's a very interesting discovery, man. To me it can mean the
 motherboard is not correctly detecting the card, hence a BIOS issue.

Ah yes, maybe it thinks it's a usb device?
I have tried to check if I can see something in the mb BIOS to see if it 
can tell me anything about the connected hardware. But I didn't find 
anything in the PCI settings.


(...)

 Mmm... the strange here is that there is no clear indication about the
 nature of the problem, that is, what's preventing your system from
 booting. Can you at least get into the single-user mode?
 
 I can't get to any login. Or is there a way to get into single-user
 mode? If you mean recovery mode: no luck either :-(
 
 Are you reaching the GRUB2 menu? If yes, you can select recovery mode/
 single-user mode.

Ah ok. Yes I have tried that with both kernels in recovery mode but 
without luck.
There are alot more messages with the last two of them the over-current 
messages :-o


Best regards
Ramon


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Re: Wheezy: aptitude update fails

2012-05-19 Thread T Elcor
--- On Sat, 5/19/12, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:

 Okay, you can try with a different mirror. Edit your
 sources.list file 
 and keep only this line (comment out # the rest):
 
 deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main non-free
 
 Then jump to a console and run:
 
 apt-get update  apt-get -V dist-upgrade
 
 And put here the output.

Here it is:

# apt-get update
Hit http://security.debian.org wheezy/updates InRelease
Ign http://security.debian.org wheezy/updates/main TranslationIndex   
Err http://security.debian.org wheezy/updates/main amd64 Packages
  404  Not Found [IP: 128.31.0.36 80]
Ign http://security.debian.org wheezy/updates/main Translation-en_US
Ign http://security.debian.org wheezy/updates/main Translation-en
Hit http://ftp.de.debian.org wheezy InRelease
Get:1 http://ftp.de.debian.org wheezy/main amd64 Packages/DiffIndex [7,876 B]
Get:2 http://ftp.de.debian.org wheezy/main TranslationIndex [2,295 B]
Ign http://ftp.de.debian.org wheezy/non-free TranslationIndex
Get:3 http://ftp.de.debian.org wheezy/non-free amd64 Packages [90.9 kB]
Ign http://ftp.de.debian.org wheezy/main Translation-en
Ign http://ftp.de.debian.org wheezy/non-free Translation-en_US
Ign http://ftp.de.debian.org wheezy/non-free Translation-en
Fetched 10.2 kB in 2s (4,211 B/s)
W: Failed to fetch 
http://security.debian.org/dists/wheezy/updates/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404 
 Not Found [IP: 128.31.0.36 80]

W: Failed to fetch 
gzip:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/ftp.de.debian.org_debian_dists_wheezy_non-free_binary-amd64_Packages
  Hash Sum mismatch

E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones 
used instead.


# cat /etc/apt/sources.list
deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main
deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ wheezy non-free
deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main


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Re: problem with power button

2012-05-19 Thread Long Wind
Thank  Camaleón!

dmesg | grep -i power

[0.148304] ACPI: Power Resource [URP1] (off)
[0.148367] ACPI: Power Resource [URP2] (off)
[0.148426] ACPI: Power Resource [FDDP] (off)
[0.148485] ACPI: Power Resource [LPTP] (off)
[7.837926] input: Power Button as
/devices/LNXSYSTM:00/LNXSYBUS:00/PNP0C0C:00/input/input1
[7.837945] ACPI: Power Button [PWRB]
[7.838267] input: Power Button as
/devices/LNXSYSTM:00/LNXPWRBN:00/input/input3
[7.838276] ACPI: Power Button [PWRF]


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Re: LSI MegaRAID SAS 9240-4i hangs system at boot

2012-05-19 Thread Ramon Hofer
On Sat, 19 May 2012 10:33:06 +, Ramon Hofer wrote:

 On Fri, 18 May 2012 17:47:54 -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
 
 Post your FW version here.  It's likely pretty recent already.
 
 The FW version is 2.70.04-0862.
 
 I have a little confusion with the versioning from LSI. On their
 homepage [1] they list the firmware name 4.6 - 10M09 P24 as the newest.
 The filename of this file is
 20.10.1-0077_SAS_2008_FW_Image_APP-2.120.244-1482.zip. The starting
 number 20.10.1-0777 is the newest version according to the readme. The
 filename ends with 2.120.244-1482 which seems more in the format the
 version listed in my cards BIOS.
  
 [1] http://www.lsi.com/downloads/Public/MegaRAID%20Common%
 20Files/20.10.1-0077_SAS_2008_FW_Image_APP-2.120.244-1482.zip

When I start the system the card shows it's version before it start 
detecting the disks.

It's 4.14.00 and the date it shows is 29.1.2010.

So it seems a bit old?


Best regards
Ramon


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Re: problem with power button

2012-05-19 Thread Long Wind
Thank  Andrei POPESCU!

I install kernel 2.4 with apt-get install ...
the package conflicts with other package(s)
so other package(s) have to be removed

then I install kernel 2.6 with apt-get install ...,
the command remove some packages and install some packages


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Re: Wheezy: aptitude update fails

2012-05-19 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 19 May 2012 04:27:07 -0700, T Elcor wrote:

(...)

 And put here the output.
 
 Here it is:
 
 # apt-get update
(...)
 Hit http://ftp.de.debian.org wheezy InRelease 
 Get:1 http://ftp.de.debian.org wheezy/main amd64 Packages/DiffIndex [7,876 B] 
 Get:2 http://ftp.de.debian.org wheezy/main TranslationIndex [2,295 B] 
 Ign http://ftp.de.debian.org wheezy/non-free TranslationIndex 
 Get:3 http://ftp.de.debian.org wheezy/non-free amd64 Packages [90.9 kB] 
 Ign http://ftp.de.debian.org wheezy/main Translation-en 
 Ign http://ftp.de.debian.org wheezy/non-free Translation-en_US 
 Ign http://ftp.de.debian.org wheezy/non-free Translation-en 
 Fetched 10.2 kB in 2s (4,211 B/s)
(...)

Okay, much better now :-)

security still fails because you did not commented out...

 W: Failed to fetch 
 gzip:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/ftp.de.debian.org_debian_dists_wheezy_non-free_binary-amd64_Packages
  Hash Sum mismatch
 
 E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones 
 used instead.

Clean your local apt cache:

apt-get clean

 # cat /etc/apt/sources.list
 deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main 
 deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ wheezy non-free 
 deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main

Then, put these two lines *as is* in your sources.list:

deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main contrib non-free
#deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main

Finally, refresh your repo cache (apt-get update) and resend the output.

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Re: problem with power button

2012-05-19 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 19 May 2012 07:29:04 -0400, Long Wind wrote:

 Thank  Camaleón!
 
 dmesg | grep -i power
 
(...)
 [7.837926] input: Power Button as 
 /devices/LNXSYSTM:00/LNXSYBUS:00/PNP0C0C:00/input/input1 
 [7.837945] ACPI: Power Button [PWRB] 
(...)

Looks right, there it is.

What happens when you press the power button? Nothing? Also, is the 
machine fully up and running when you press the button or has it returned 
from hibernation/suspension?

Ensure you have an updated system and if you are curious enough, there's 
a litte program you can install (kacpimon) to monitor the acpi events. 
It will tell you what's going on when you press the power button.

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Re: problem with power button

2012-05-19 Thread Long Wind
On 5/19/12, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:

 Looks right, there it is.

 What happens when you press the power button? Nothing? Also, is the
 machine fully up and running when you press the button or has it returned
 from hibernation/suspension?

 Ensure you have an updated system and if you are curious enough, there's
 a litte program you can install (kacpimon) to monitor the acpi events.
 It will tell you what's going on when you press the power button.

 Greetings,

 --
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Nothing seems to happen when I press power button
I install kacpimon, pressing power button or moving mouse can cause it
to print some msg

I'd better reinstall squeeze.


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Re: problem with power button

2012-05-19 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 19 May 2012 08:35:01 -0400, Long Wind wrote:

 On 5/19/12, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:

 Looks right, there it is.

 What happens when you press the power button? Nothing? Also, is the
 machine fully up and running when you press the button or has it
 returned from hibernation/suspension?

 Ensure you have an updated system and if you are curious enough,
 there's a litte program you can install (kacpimon) to monitor the
 acpi events. It will tell you what's going on when you press the power
 button.

 Nothing seems to happen when I press power button I install kacpimon,
 pressing power button or moving mouse can cause it to print some msg

What messages, what's the output?
 
 I'd better reinstall squeeze.

You seem to enjoy reinstalling linux distributions every day :-) but 
before doing do, ensure you have these packages installed:

acpi
acpi-support
acpi-support-base
acpid

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(solved)Re: problem with power button

2012-05-19 Thread Long Wind
On 5/19/12, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:

 You seem to enjoy reinstalling linux distributions every day :-) but
 before doing do, ensure you have these packages installed:

 acpi
 acpi-support
 acpi-support-base
 acpid

 Greetings,



Thank Camaleón! You finally hit the point
During installing 2.4 and reinstalling 2.6, acpid is removed
I install acpid and power button works now


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Re: LSI MegaRAID SAS 9240-4i hangs system at boot

2012-05-19 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 19 May 2012 11:26:09 +, Ramon Hofer wrote:

 On Sat, 19 May 2012 09:09:52 +, Camaleón wrote:

 You installed the lsi card in one of the motherboard slots, configured
 the BIOS to use a JBOD disk layout and then boot the installation CD
 for Squeeze, right?
 
 Yes, but I didn't set the LSI BIOS to use the cards as jbod it did it
 automatically.

I guess that's the default.

 In the cards BIOS I saw that virtual drives can be setup. But since I
 want to use them as jbod I don't think I have to set virtual drives. The
 Controller Property pages are very hard to understand. So I tried with
 the factory default.

It's important that you first read and get a global understanding about 
the capabilities (and possibilities) of your card. A raid card is almost 
a small computer by itself (it has the logic and the wires to act as 
such), they're a very complex piece of hardware.

Moreover, the raid card has to stablish a perfect dialog with your 
motherboard and the rest of the system components (OS, hard disks...), 
and every single item in this chain (a BIOS problem, firmware glitch) can 
fail or make the computer behave weirdly. 

 So you think the system stalls because of the raid card despite you get
 the same output messages at boot and there's no additional evidence of
 a problem related to the hard disks or the controller.
 
 I only get the two over current lines always. The timeout and udev
 errors don't appear when the card is removed.

Okay.

 Mmm... weird it is, my young padawan :-) that's for sure but it can be
 something coming from your Supermicro motherboard's BIOS and the raid
 controller. Check if there's a BIOS update for your motherboard (but
 just check, don't install!) and if so, ask Supermicro technical support
 about the exact problems it corrects and tell them you are using a LSI
 raid card and you're having problems to boot your system from it.
 
 Thanks Master Camaleón :-D
 The mb BIOS version is 2.10.1206. But I couldn't find the current
 version. They only write R 2.0.
 And the readmes in the firmware zip don't tell me more.
 
 I will email Supermicro to ask them.

Yes, do it ASAP. Look, Supermicro is somehow special in this regard. 
They have top-quality motherboards which allows special configuration and 
setups and thus they work very closely with the rest of the hardware 
manufacturers (memory modules, HBA providers...). Should there's any 
specific problem with your raid card and any of their boards they'll tell 
the steps to follow.

 Something wrong with udevd when listing an usb?? device or hub.
 
 Ok, unfortunately I have no clue what this means. But this message
 isn't there without card but it's pci-e?
 
 Ah, that's a very interesting discovery, man. To me it can mean the
 motherboard is not correctly detecting the card, hence a BIOS issue.
 
 Ah yes, maybe it thinks it's a usb device? 

Yes, sort of. It could be that the motherboard is having problems to 
address some resources provided by your raid card.

 I have tried to check if I can see something in the mb BIOS to see if
 it can tell me anything about the connected hardware. But I didn't find
 anything in the PCI settings.

Mmm, have you tried to set a RAID level instead using JBOD? It's just for 
testing... although this can only be done in a very early stage when the 
disks are completely empty with no data on them because I'm afraid 
changing this will destroy whatever contains.

 Are you reaching the GRUB2 menu? If yes, you can select recovery mode/
 single-user mode.
 
 Ah ok. Yes I have tried that with both kernels in recovery mode but
 without luck.
 There are alot more messages with the last two of them the over-current
 messages :-o

If you could upload an image with the screen you get, it would be 
great :-)

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Re: need help on using ffmpeg for video grab

2012-05-19 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 19 May 2012 05:51:51 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:

 On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 12:59:52AM -0400, Long Wind wrote:
 I have bt848 card and watch TV with xawtv As another application shows:
 
 Device 00: BT848A video (Lifeview FlyVideo /dev/video0)
 Port 00: Television
 Port 01: Composite1
 Port 02: S-Video
 Port 03: Composite3
 
 I select Composite1 in xawtv
 I try ffmpeg with this command:
 
 ffmpeg -s vga -f video4linux2 -i /dev/video0 t2.mpg
 
 then I ffplay t2.mpg, it shows green screen maybe I didn't specify
 Composite1 in ffmpeg command, but how to do that? or maybe I didn't
 specify PAL, but how to do that?

FFmpeg is very powerful but you have to carefully read the docs and 
search for command line samples when something goes wrong, e.g.:

http://ffmpeg.org/ffmpeg.html#Examples

From there it can be read:

(...) Note that you must activate the right video source and channel 
before launching ffmpeg with any TV viewer such as xawtv by Gerd Knorr. 
You also have to set the audio recording levels correctly with a standard 
mixer.

Maybe is that you missed the -channel argument?

Anyway, you can also consider in using a different application such as 
VideoLAN which is simpler to use and can also grab the video from the TV 
card.

 Wrong list! Please direct your question to a ffmpeg users list.

I don't think so. It could be somehow [OT] but this list is okay for that 
kind of questions.
 
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Changes In udev?

2012-05-19 Thread Thomas H. George
In /dev cdrom4, cdrw4, dvd4 and dvdrw4 all point to sr1
and cdrom6, cdrw6, dvd6 and dvdrw6 all point to sr0

I just replaced a dying motherboard - the ethernet circuit failed - and
on boot up found the above soft links.  Perhaps this was changed in a
recent dist-upgrade and I only now noticed the changes.  Either way my
/dev/fstab file was out of date as it contained entries like

/dev/sca1   /media/cdrom1   udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0   0

so my dvdrw drives were not found.

In trying to identify the problem I found /dev/disk/by-name reported the
name of the cd in the drive.  /dev/bus contains a usb directory.
Previously there was a directory in /dev which would list the hard
drives in a directory by-uuid but I can't find this anymore.

Having found all this I have made changes in /etc/fstab and cdplay -d
/dev/sr0 will play a cd but there is no sound.  The sound system works,
an online video with sound plays perfectly.

Question: What are the best practice /etc/fstab entries given the
changes in /dev?

Tom


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Re: Wheezy: aptitude update fails

2012-05-19 Thread T Elcor
--- On Sat, 5/19/12, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:

 security still fails because you did not commented out...

In theory, security may fail because there are no security updates for wheezy 
yet, in practice that line was working fine for months without any problems 
until several days ago.

 Clean your local apt cache:
 
 apt-get clean
 
  # cat /etc/apt/sources.list
  deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ wheezy
 main 
  deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ wheezy
 non-free 
  deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main
 
 Then, put these two lines *as is* in your sources.list:
 
 deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main contrib
 non-free
 #deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main
 
 Finally, refresh your repo cache (apt-get update) and resend
 the output.


# apt-get clean
# apt-get update
Hit http://ftp.de.debian.org wheezy InRelease
Hit http://ftp.de.debian.org wheezy/main amd64 Packages/DiffIndex
Get:1 http://ftp.de.debian.org wheezy/contrib amd64 Packages/DiffIndex [6,991 B]
Ign http://ftp.de.debian.org wheezy/contrib TranslationIndex
Hit http://ftp.de.debian.org wheezy/main TranslationIndex
Ign http://ftp.de.debian.org wheezy/non-free TranslationIndex
Get:2 http://ftp.de.debian.org wheezy/non-free amd64 Packages [90.9 kB]
Ign http://ftp.de.debian.org wheezy/contrib Translation-en_US
Ign http://ftp.de.debian.org wheezy/contrib Translation-en
Ign http://ftp.de.debian.org wheezy/main Translation-en
Ign http://ftp.de.debian.org wheezy/non-free Translation-en_US
Ign http://ftp.de.debian.org wheezy/non-free Translation-en
Fetched 6,992 B in 1s (3,569 B/s)
W: Failed to fetch 
gzip:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/ftp.de.debian.org_debian_dists_wheezy_non-free_binary-amd64_Packages
  Hash Sum mismatch

E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones 
used instead.


# cat /etc/apt/sources.list
deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main contrib non-free


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Re: Changes In udev?

2012-05-19 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 19 May 2012 11:04:02 -0400, Thomas H. George wrote:

 In /dev cdrom4, cdrw4, dvd4 and dvdrw4 all point to sr1 and cdrom6,
 cdrw6, dvd6 and dvdrw6 all point to sr0
 
 I just replaced a dying motherboard - the ethernet circuit failed - and
 on boot up found the above soft links.  Perhaps this was changed in a
 recent dist-upgrade and I only now noticed the changes.  Either way my
 /dev/fstab file was out of date as it contained entries like
 
 /dev/sca1 /media/cdrom1   udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0   0
 
 so my dvdrw drives were not found.

Are you running squeeze, wheehy, sid?

How many optical devices do you have, two (CD → sr1 and DVD → sr0)? You 
can run dmesg | grep sr and send the output.

(...)

 Question: What are the best practice /etc/fstab entries given the
 changes in /dev?

You can try with:

/dev/cdrom /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0
/dev/dvd /media/dvd0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0

Note that /dev/cdrom and /dev/dvd are the names udev gives to your 
devices based on the content of /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-
cdrom.rules file.

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Re: Wheezy: aptitude update fails

2012-05-19 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 19 May 2012 08:33:15 -0700, T Elcor wrote:

 --- On Sat, 5/19/12, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 security still fails because you did not commented out...
 
 In theory, security may fail because there are no security updates for
 wheezy yet, in practice that line was working fine for months without
 any problems until several days ago.

Not at all, I also use wheezy and the security repo is working as it 
should. It is something failing at your side :-)

 Clean your local apt cache:
(...)
 Then, put these two lines *as is* in your sources.list:
(...)
 Finally, refresh your repo cache (apt-get update) and resend the
 output.
 
 
 # apt-get clean
 # apt-get update
(...)
 W: Failed to fetch 
 gzip:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/ftp.de.debian.org_debian_dists_wheezy_non-free_binary-amd64_Packages
  Hash Sum mismatch
 
 E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old
 ones used instead.

I'm starting to think you are facing a pure connectivity problem.

Can you use a different ISP/gateway?

 # cat /etc/apt/sources.list
 deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main contrib non-free

Any specific reason for not doing what I tell? ;-)

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Re: Wheezy: aptitude update fails

2012-05-19 Thread antoinejou


All of this makes me mad...

# cat /etc/apt/sources.list

deb http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main
deb-src http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main

deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main
deb-src http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main


# sudo aptitude update
Hit http://ftp.fr.debian.org wheezy InRelease
Hit http://security.debian.org wheezy/updates InRelease
Hit http://ftp.fr.debian.org wheezy/main Sources/DiffIndex
Hit http://ftp.fr.debian.org wheezy/main i386 Packages/DiffIndex
Hit http://ftp.fr.debian.org wheezy/main Translation-fr/DiffIndex
Prendre :  1 http://ftp.fr.debian.org wheezy/main Translation-en [3 834 kB]
Hit http://security.debian.org wheezy/updates/main Sources
Hit http://security.debian.org wheezy/updates/main i386 Packages
Ign http://security.debian.org wheezy/updates/main Translation-fr_FR
Ign http://security.debian.org wheezy/updates/main Translation-fr
Ign http://security.debian.org wheezy/updates/main Translation-en
 1 o téléchargés en 6s (0 o/s)
W: Failed to fetch
bzip2:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/ftp.fr.debian.org_debian_dists_wheezy_main_i18n_Translation-en:
Somme de contrôle de hachage incohérente

E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used
instead.
E: Impossible de reconstruire le cache des paquets


Try with a one-line file:

# cat /etc/apt/sources.list
deb http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main

# sudo aptitude clean  sudo aptitude update
Hit http://ftp.fr.debian.org wheezy InRelease
Hit http://ftp.fr.debian.org wheezy/main i386 Packages/DiffIndex
Hit http://ftp.fr.debian.org wheezy/main Translation-fr/DiffIndex
Prendre :  1 http://ftp.fr.debian.org wheezy/main Translation-en [3 834 kB]
 1 o téléchargés en 5s (0 o/s)
W: Failed to fetch
bzip2:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/ftp.fr.debian.org_debian_dists_wheezy_main_i18n_Translation-en:
Somme de contrôle de hachage incohérente

E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used
instead.
E: Impossible de reconstruire le cache des paquets


Then try with another location:

# cat /etc/apt/sources.list
deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main

# sudo aptitude clean  sudo aptitude update
Prendre :  1 http://ftp.debian.org wheezy InRelease [190 kB]
Prendre :  2 http://ftp.debian.org wheezy/main i386 Packages [5 793 kB]
Prendre :  3 http://ftp.debian.org wheezy/main Translation-fr [699 kB]
Prendre :  4 http://ftp.debian.org wheezy/main Translation-en [3 834 kB]
 10,5 Mo téléchargés en 12s (810 ko/s)

État actuel : 39 mises à jour restantes [+39], 1308 nouveaux paquets [+1286].


Re-try with the original one-line file:

# cat /etc/apt/sources.list
deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main

# sudo aptitude clean  sudo aptitude update
Prendre :  1 http://ftp.fr.debian.org wheezy InRelease [190 kB]
Prendre :  2 http://ftp.fr.debian.org wheezy/main i386 Packages [5 796 kB]
Prendre :  3 http://ftp.fr.debian.org wheezy/main Translation-fr [699 kB]
Prendre :  4 http://ftp.fr.debian.org wheezy/main Translation-en [3 834 kB]
 10,5 Mo téléchargés en 11s (885 ko/s)
W: Failed to fetch
bzip2:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/ftp.fr.debian.org_debian_dists_wheezy_main_i18n_Translation-en:
Somme de contrôle de hachage incohérente

E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used
instead.
E: Impossible de reconstruire le cache des paquets

État actuel : 2 mises à jour restantes [+2], 1308 nouveaux paquets [+1286].

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Re: Wheezy: aptitude update fails

2012-05-19 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 19 May 2012 17:38:34 +0200, antoinejou wrote:

 All of this makes me mad...

(...)

 W: Failed to fetch
 bzip2:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/ftp.fr.debian.org_debian_dists_wheezy_main_i18n_Translation-en:
 Somme de contrôle de hachage incohérente
 
 E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old
 ones used instead.
 E: Impossible de reconstruire le cache des paquets

(...)

Okay, okay... I'm also getting the same hash mismatch error _now_. 
There must be something changing at the servers, we'll have to wait.

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Re: LSI MegaRAID SAS 9240-4i hangs system at boot

2012-05-19 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sat, 19 May 2012, Ramon Hofer wrote:
  And after a while there are more messages which I don't understand. I
  have taken a picture:
  http://666kb.com/i/c3wf606sc1qkcvgoc.jpg
  
  It shows that udev is having serious trouble handling one of the USB
  devices.
 
 Yes but only when the lsi card is attached. When it's removed the 

Get a better PSU, and if that doesn't work, either junk the motherboard, or
give up on adding any cards that require a bit more power.

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Re: LSI MegaRAID SAS 9240-4i hangs system at boot

2012-05-19 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sat, 19 May 2012, Ramon Hofer wrote:
 On Sat, 19 May 2012 04:19:33 -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
  On 5/19/2012 2:52 AM, Ramon Hofer wrote:
  On Fri, 18 May 2012 17:57:56 -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
  
  On 5/18/2012 9:39 AM, Shane Johnson wrote:
 
  After that I would look to see if
  something isn't shorting out a USB port.
 
  Yes, USB is the cause of the over-current errors, which is plainly
  evident in his screen shot.  But we don't yet know if this USB problem
  is what's hanging the system.  Further troubleshooting is required.
  
  The strange thing is as I mentioned in another post is that on the mb
  usb port 8 there's nothing attached and I haven't found where port 7 is
  :-?
  
  I wouldn't worry about the USB errors at this point.  Unless there is
  some larger issue with insufficient power on the motherboard causing the
  USB current error, it's likely unrelated to the storage hardware issue.
   Fix it first, then worry about the USB errors.  Given you have no
  device plugged into those ports, it could be a phantom error.
 
 Yes I hope you're right with the phantom error :-)
 Especially because I can't find port 7. No label on the mb pcb nor in 
 it's documentation.

It might well mean one of the power planes is oversubscribed, and THAT
can cause anything up to and including damage to hard disks, data
corruption, and crashes.

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Re: LSI MegaRAID SAS 9240-4i hangs system at boot

2012-05-19 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 5/19/2012 5:33 AM, Ramon Hofer wrote:

 Yes, I'm really thankful for the recommendation.
 And somehow I hoped you could jump in and help me :-)

I'm actively working on it, have been for a couple of hours on and off.
 I'm reading your responses as I go before responding so I hopefully
don't recommend something you've already tried.  I'm still researching.
 In the mean time, if you can, go ahead and flash the 9240 with the
latest firmware, precisely following the instructions.

Also try the following:

1.  Power the Intel expander with a PSU 4 pin Molex connector instead of
using a PCIe slot.  Molex are the large standard plugs, usually white,
used to connect hard drives for the past 25 years--two black wires, one
red, one yellow.  With the chassis laying on your desk and the side/top
cover panel removed, lay the anti-static bag the expander shipped in on
top of the drive cage frame or PSU, then lay the expander card on its
back on top of the bag--heat sink facing the ceiling.  Make sure it
doesn't fall off and ground out to the metal chassis or mobo, etc.  This
will eliminate a possible PCIe power bug in the mobo.

2.  With the expander powered directly from the PSU, try the 9240 in
each x16 slot until one works (I'm assuming you know that you must power
down the system before inserting/removing cards or you'll very likely
permanently damage the cards and/or mobo).  If no success here...

3.  Go into the mobo BIOS and set and test these options:

Quiet Boot: DISABLED
Interrupt 19 Capture:   DISABLED
--save/reboot/test--
PCI Express Port:   ENABLED
PEG Force Gen1: ENABLED
Detect Non-Compliance Device:   ENABLED
--save/reboot/test--
XHCI Hand-off:  ENABLED
Active State Power Management:  ENABLED
PCIe (PCI Express) Max Read Request Size:   4096
--save/reboot/test--

If none of this works, disable both on board SATA controllers:

Serial-ATA Controller 0:DISABLED
Serial-ATA Controller 1:DISABLED

and connect all drives to the 9240, and re-enable
Interrupt 19 Capture:   ENABLED

This will allow booting from the 9240.  In the 9240 webBIOS, create a
RAID1 array device of two disks, make it bootable, save and initialize
the array.  Reboot into the Squeeze install disk and install onto the
RAID1 device.  The initialization should continue transparently in the
background while you're installing Debian.  When finished reboot to see
if the boot hang persists.

Hopefully you won't need to do all of these things as it will be very
time consuming.  I'm attempting to provide you a thorough
troubleshooting guide that covers most/all the possible/likely causes of
the hang.

 But I didn't know if it's ok to ask you by name.

I've been doing a reply-to-all with each reply, hoping you'd follow
suit.  This list is very busy thus a reply-all ensures I won't miss your
posts.

Please feel free to address me by name and/or contact me directly off
list.  I recommended this storage controller/expander solution to you
and it's not working yet.  I'm not going to leave you twisting in the
wind.  That's not how I roll. ;)  Besides, look at my RHS domain.  I
have a reputation to uphold. :)

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Re: aptitude changelog gives You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list

2012-05-19 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 19 May 2012 03:05:03 -0400, Tom wrote in message 
CAOdo=SxrT0Qr-4L7ug5qLdtz7XTe4qcoA=rsjlx1oj2vq8y...@mail.gmail.com:

 On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 3:25 PM, Arnt Karlsen a...@c2i.net wrote:
  On Fri, 18 May 2012 17:04:02 + (UTC), Camaleón wrote in message
  jp5ve2$jg9$1...@dough.gmane.org:
 
  You have no source repo listed.
 
  deb-src http://cdn.debian.net/debian testing main contrib non-free
 
  ..if you _never_ install source, you don't need deb-src lines.
 
 True, but aptitude changelog ... seems to require deb-src ...
 entries:
 
 Without deb-src ...
 
 # aptitude changelog grub-pc
 Err Changelog of grub-pc
 E: You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list
 E: Changelog download failed: Download queue destroyed.
 E: Couldn't find a changelog for grub-pc
 
 With deb-src ...
 
 # aptitude changelog grub-pc
 Err Changelog of grub-pc
 E: Changelog download failed: 404  Not Found
 E: Couldn't find a changelog for grub-pc

..aye.  Now try 'apt-get changelog grub-pc ', both ways. ;o) 

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Re: aptitude changelog gives You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list

2012-05-19 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 19 May 2012 08:13:52 + (UTC), Camaleón wrote in message 
jp7ko0$27j$6...@dough.gmane.org:

 On Fri, 18 May 2012 21:25:25 +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
 
  On Fri, 18 May 2012 17:04:02 + (UTC), Camaleón wrote in message
  jp5ve2$jg9$1...@dough.gmane.org:
  
  You have no source repo listed.
  
  deb-src http://cdn.debian.net/debian testing main contrib non-free
  
  ..if you _never_ install source, you don't need deb-src lines. 
 
 (...)
 
 If you want to get rid of the above error, yes _you do_ (see Tom's 
 comment) ;-)

..really? ;o)
root@celsius:~# apt-get changelog grub-pc
Get:1 Changelog for grub-pc
(http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/g/grub2/grub2_1.99-21/changelog)
[134 kB] 
Fetched 134 kB in 3s (38.5 kB/s) 
root@celsius:~# grep ^deb /etc/apt/sources.list 
deb http://192.168.1.140/debian sid main contrib non-free 
root@celsius:~# 

 Anyway, I guess that can be a comestic error, the main problem was 
 already reported in BTS (#669569).
 
 Greetings,
 


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Re: aptitude changelog gives You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list

2012-05-19 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 19 May 2012 18:47:34 +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote:

 On Sat, 19 May 2012 08:13:52 + (UTC), Camaleón wrote in message
 jp7ko0$27j$6...@dough.gmane.org:
 
 On Fri, 18 May 2012 21:25:25 +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
 
  On Fri, 18 May 2012 17:04:02 + (UTC), Camaleón wrote in message
  jp5ve2$jg9$1...@dough.gmane.org:
  
  You have no source repo listed.
  
  deb-src http://cdn.debian.net/debian testing main contrib non-free
  
  ..if you _never_ install source, you don't need deb-src lines.
 
 (...)
 
 If you want to get rid of the above error, yes _you do_ (see Tom's
 comment) ;-)
 
 ..really? ;o)

With aptitude, yes ;-)

 root@celsius:~# apt-get changelog grub-pc 
 Get:1 Changelog for grub-pc 
 (http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/g/grub2/grub2_1.99-21/changelog)
 [134 kB]
 Fetched 134 kB in 3s (38.5 kB/s)
 root@celsius:~# grep ^deb /etc/apt/sources.list 
 deb http://192.168.1.140/debian sid main contrib non-free 
 root@celsius:~#

sm01@stt008:~$ LANG=C; apt-get changelog grub-pc
E: Invalid operation changelog

And lenny does not have that option as available.

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Re: Changes In udev?

2012-05-19 Thread Thomas H. George
On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 03:35:29PM +, Camaleón wrote:
 On Sat, 19 May 2012 11:04:02 -0400, Thomas H. George wrote:
 
  In /dev cdrom4, cdrw4, dvd4 and dvdrw4 all point to sr1 and cdrom6,
  cdrw6, dvd6 and dvdrw6 all point to sr0
  
  I just replaced a dying motherboard - the ethernet circuit failed - and
  on boot up found the above soft links.  Perhaps this was changed in a
  recent dist-upgrade and I only now noticed the changes.  Either way my
  /dev/fstab file was out of date as it contained entries like
  
  /dev/sca1   /media/cdrom1   udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0   0
  
  so my dvdrw drives were not found.
 
 Are you running squeeze, wheehy, sid?

Wheezy

 
 How many optical devices do you have, two (CD → sr1 and DVD → sr0)? You 
 can run dmesg | grep sr and send the output.
 
 (...)

[1.802349] sr0: scsi3-mmc drive: 48x/48x writer dvd-ram cd/rw xa/form2 cdda 
tray
[1.802964] sr 5:0:0:0: Attached scsi CD-ROM sr0
[2.936691] sr1: scsi3-mmc drive: 32x/32x writer cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray
[2.936900] sr 6:0:0:0: Attached scsi CD-ROM sr1

The dvdrw is a sata drive and the cdrw is a usb drive

  changes in /dev?
 
 You can try with:
 
 /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0
 /dev/dvd /media/dvd0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0
 

The problem is that udev has chosen to link cdrom4 to sr1 and to link
dvdrw6 to sr0 so there are no /dev/cdrom /dev/dvd entries.

 Note that /dev/cdrom and /dev/dvd are the names udev gives to your 
 devices based on the content of /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-
 cdrom.rules file.

Now that you direct me to the content of the
/etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-cdrom.rules file (attached below) it is
clear why the assignments cdrom4 and dvdrw6 were made but
where did all the extra entries in this file come from?  Can I just
delete them?  Will they be regenrated by future updates?


# This file was automatically generated by the /lib/udev/write_cd_rules
# program, probably run by the cd-aliases-generator.rules rules file.
#
# You can modify it, as long as you keep each rule on a single line
# and set the $GENERATED variable.

# DRW-2014L1T (pci-:00:05.0-scsi-1:0:0:0)
ENV{ID_CDROM}==?*, ENV{ID_PATH}==pci-:00:05.0-scsi-1:0:0:0, 
SYMLINK+=cdrom, ENV{GENERATED}=1
ENV{ID_CDROM}==?*, ENV{ID_PATH}==pci-:00:05.0-scsi-1:0:0:0, 
SYMLINK+=cdrw, ENV{GENERATED}=1
ENV{ID_CDROM}==?*, ENV{ID_PATH}==pci-:00:05.0-scsi-1:0:0:0, 
SYMLINK+=dvd, ENV{GENERATED}=1
ENV{ID_CDROM}==?*, ENV{ID_PATH}==pci-:00:05.0-scsi-1:0:0:0, 
SYMLINK+=dvdrw, ENV{GENERATED}=1
# DRX-510UL (pci-:00:02.1-usb-0:1:1.0-scsi-0:0:0:0)
ENV{ID_CDROM}==?*, ENV{ID_PATH}==pci-:00:02.1-usb-0:1:1.0-scsi-0:0:0:0, 
SYMLINK+=cdrom1, ENV{GENERATED}=1
ENV{ID_CDROM}==?*, ENV{ID_PATH}==pci-:00:02.1-usb-0:1:1.0-scsi-0:0:0:0, 
SYMLINK+=cdrw1, ENV{GENERATED}=1
ENV{ID_CDROM}==?*, ENV{ID_PATH}==pci-:00:02.1-usb-0:1:1.0-scsi-0:0:0:0, 
SYMLINK+=dvd1, ENV{GENERATED}=1
ENV{ID_CDROM}==?*, ENV{ID_PATH}==pci-:00:02.1-usb-0:1:1.0-scsi-0:0:0:0, 
SYMLINK+=dvdrw1, ENV{GENERATED}=1
# DRX-510UL (pci-:00:02.1-usb-0:1:1.0-scsi-0:0:0:0)
ENV{ID_CDROM}==?*, ENV{ID_SERIAL}==Sony_DRX-510UL_DRX-510UL_SYQ013324, 
SYMLINK+=cdrom2, ENV{GENERATED}=1
ENV{ID_CDROM}==?*, ENV{ID_SERIAL}==Sony_DRX-510UL_DRX-510UL_SYQ013324, 
SYMLINK+=cdrw2, ENV{GENERATED}=1
ENV{ID_CDROM}==?*, ENV{ID_SERIAL}==Sony_DRX-510UL_DRX-510UL_SYQ013324, 
SYMLINK+=dvd2, ENV{GENERATED}=1
ENV{ID_CDROM}==?*, ENV{ID_SERIAL}==Sony_DRX-510UL_DRX-510UL_SYQ013324, 
SYMLINK+=dvdrw2, ENV{GENERATED}=1
# Cruzer (pci-:00:02.1-usb-0:2:1.0-scsi-0:0:0:1)
ENV{ID_CDROM}==?*, ENV{ID_PATH}==pci-:00:02.1-usb-0:2:1.0-scsi-0:0:0:1, 
SYMLINK+=cdrom, ENV{GENERATED}=1
# Cruzer (pci-:00:02.1-usb-0:2:1.0-scsi-0:0:0:1)
ENV{ID_CDROM}==?*, ENV{ID_SERIAL}==SanDisk_Cruzer_08778113C0C349E1-0:1, 
SYMLINK+=cdrom, ENV{GENERATED}=1
# DVD_RW_DRU-510A (pci-:00:02.0-usb-0:1:1.0-scsi-0:0:0:0)
SUBSYSTEM==block, ENV{ID_CDROM}==?*, 
ENV{ID_PATH}==pci-:00:02.0-usb-0:1:1.0-scsi-0:0:0:0, SYMLINK+=cdrom3, 
ENV{GENERATED}=1
SUBSYSTEM==block, ENV{ID_CDROM}==?*, 
ENV{ID_PATH}==pci-:00:02.0-usb-0:1:1.0-scsi-0:0:0:0, SYMLINK+=cdrw3, 
ENV{GENERATED}=1
SUBSYSTEM==block, ENV{ID_CDROM}==?*, 
ENV{ID_PATH}==pci-:00:02.0-usb-0:1:1.0-scsi-0:0:0:0, SYMLINK+=dvd3, 
ENV{GENERATED}=1
SUBSYSTEM==block, ENV{ID_CDROM}==?*, 
ENV{ID_PATH}==pci-:00:02.0-usb-0:1:1.0-scsi-0:0:0:0, SYMLINK+=dvdrw3, 
ENV{GENERATED}=1

# DVD_RW_DRU-510A (pci-:00:02.0-usb-0:1:1.0-scsi-0:0:0:0)
SUBSYSTEM==block, ENV{ID_CDROM}==?*, 
ENV{ID_SERIAL}==SONY_DVD_RW_DRU-510A_DRX-510UL_SYQ013324-0:0, 
SYMLINK+=cdrom4, ENV{GENERATED}=1
SUBSYSTEM==block, ENV{ID_CDROM}==?*, 
ENV{ID_SERIAL}==SONY_DVD_RW_DRU-510A_DRX-510UL_SYQ013324-0:0, 
SYMLINK+=cdrw4, ENV{GENERATED}=1
SUBSYSTEM==block, ENV{ID_CDROM}==?*, 
ENV{ID_SERIAL}==SONY_DVD_RW_DRU-510A_DRX-510UL_SYQ013324-0:0, 
SYMLINK+=dvd4, ENV{GENERATED}=1
SUBSYSTEM==block, ENV{ID_CDROM}==?*, 
ENV{ID_SERIAL}==SONY_DVD_RW_DRU-510A_DRX-510UL_SYQ013324-0:0, 

Re: need help on using ffmpeg for video grab

2012-05-19 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 02:59:39PM +, Camaleón wrote:
 On Sat, 19 May 2012 05:51:51 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:
  Wrong list! Please direct your question to a ffmpeg users list.
 
 I don't think so. It could be somehow [OT] but this list is okay for that 
 kind of questions.

No it is not! 

I know you mean well, but please don't encourage this type of behaviour,
especially when there are lists available especially for these type of
questions.

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Re: Changes In udev?

2012-05-19 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 19 May 2012 13:12:49 -0400, Thomas H. George wrote:

 On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 03:35:29PM +, Camaleón wrote:

(...)

  /dev/sca1  /media/cdrom1   udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0   0
  
  so my dvdrw drives were not found.
 
 Are you running squeeze, wheehy, sid?
 
 Wheezy

Ah... I thought it was squeeze.

 How many optical devices do you have, two (CD → sr1 and DVD → sr0)? You
 can run dmesg | grep sr and send the output.
 
 (...)
 
 [1.802349] sr0: scsi3-mmc drive: 48x/48x writer dvd-ram cd/rw xa/form2 
 cdda tray 
 [1.802964] sr 5:0:0:0: Attached scsi CD-ROM sr0 
 [2.936691] sr1: scsi3-mmc drive: 32x/32x writer cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray 
 [2.936900] sr 6:0:0:0: Attached scsi CD-ROM sr1
 
 The dvdrw is a sata drive and the cdrw is a usb drive

Okay.

 You can try with:
 
 /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0 
 /dev/dvd /media/dvd0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0
 
 
 The problem is that udev has chosen to link cdrom4 to sr1 and to link
 dvdrw6 to sr0 so there are no /dev/cdrom /dev/dvd entries.

That's editable.

 Note that /dev/cdrom and /dev/dvd are the names udev gives to your
 devices based on the content of /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-
 cdrom.rules file.
 
 Now that you direct me to the content of the
 /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-cdrom.rules file (attached below) it is
 clear why the assignments cdrom4 and dvdrw6 were made but where did all
 the extra entries in this file come from?  Can I just delete them?  Will
 they be regenrated by future updates?

As the same file says at the top, yes, you can edit to fit your naming needs 
(or even try to delete it to see if it is auto re-generated after booting with 
the right device names), but before making any modification or deletion, back 
it up first :-)

 # This file was automatically generated by the /lib/udev/write_cd_rules
 # program, probably run by the cd-aliases-generator.rules rules file. 
 # 
 # You can modify it, as long as you keep each rule on a single line 
 # and set the $GENERATED variable.

(...)

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Re: aptitude changelog gives You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list

2012-05-19 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 05:04:02PM +, Camaleón wrote:
 You have no source repo listed.
 
 deb-src http://cdn.debian.net/debian testing main contrib non-free 

You don't need one. The only reason you'd need one is if you are going
to be compiling any software.

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Re: need help on using ffmpeg for video grab

2012-05-19 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 20 May 2012 05:28:33 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:

 On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 02:59:39PM +, Camaleón wrote:
 On Sat, 19 May 2012 05:51:51 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:
  Wrong list! Please direct your question to a ffmpeg users list.
 
 I don't think so. It could be somehow [OT] but this list is okay for
 that kind of questions.
 
 No it is not!

?

Then kindly explain why you think so.

FFmpeg is a program like any other available and packaged for Debian 
(29,000 and increasing), if a user has problems for using it, what do you 
suggest then? Send every user to every single list of every single 
package? With all the due respects, that's nonsense.

 I know you mean well, but please don't encourage this type of behaviour,
 especially when there are lists available especially for these type of
 questions.

Sorry, but to be sincere, I don't see the problem.

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Re: Wheezy: aptitude update fails

2012-05-19 Thread Tom H
On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 12:03 PM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sat, 19 May 2012 17:38:34 +0200, antoinejou wrote:

 All of this makes me mad...

 (...)

 W: Failed to fetch
 bzip2:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/ftp.fr.debian.org_debian_dists_wheezy_main_i18n_Translation-en:
 Somme de contrôle de hachage incohérente

 E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old
 ones used instead.
 E: Impossible de reconstruire le cache des paquets

 (...)

 Okay, okay... I'm also getting the same hash mismatch error _now_.
 There must be something changing at the servers, we'll have to wait.

This wasn't happening to me yesterday but it happened to me earlier today.


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Re: aptitude changelog gives You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list

2012-05-19 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 20 May 2012 05:39:29 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:

 On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 05:04:02PM +, Camaleón wrote:
 You have no source repo listed.
 
 deb-src http://cdn.debian.net/debian testing main contrib non-free
 
 You don't need one. The only reason you'd need one is if you are going
 to be compiling any software.

Try yourself and then comment on the results.

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Re: aptitude changelog gives You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list

2012-05-19 Thread Tom H
On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 12:41 PM, Arnt Karlsen a...@c2i.net wrote:
 On Sat, 19 May 2012 03:05:03 -0400, Tom wrote in message
 CAOdo=SxrT0Qr-4L7ug5qLdtz7XTe4qcoA=rsjlx1oj2vq8y...@mail.gmail.com:

 On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 3:25 PM, Arnt Karlsen a...@c2i.net wrote:
  On Fri, 18 May 2012 17:04:02 + (UTC), Camaleón wrote in message
  jp5ve2$jg9$1...@dough.gmane.org:
 
  You have no source repo listed.
 
  deb-src http://cdn.debian.net/debian testing main contrib non-free
 
  ..if you _never_ install source, you don't need deb-src lines.

 True, but aptitude changelog ... seems to require deb-src ...
 entries:

 Without deb-src ...

 # aptitude changelog grub-pc
 Err Changelog of grub-pc
 E: You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list
 E: Changelog download failed: Download queue destroyed.
 E: Couldn't find a changelog for grub-pc

 With deb-src ...

 # aptitude changelog grub-pc
 Err Changelog of grub-pc
 E: Changelog download failed: 404  Not Found
 E: Couldn't find a changelog for grub-pc

 ..aye.  Now try 'apt-get changelog grub-pc ', both ways. ;o)

Thanks but I didn't say that it didn't work with apt-get only that
aptitude seems to need deb-src ... entries.


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Re: aptitude changelog gives You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list

2012-05-19 Thread Tom H
On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 1:10 PM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sat, 19 May 2012 18:47:34 +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
 On Sat, 19 May 2012 08:13:52 + (UTC), Camaleón wrote in message
 jp7ko0$27j$6...@dough.gmane.org:
 On Fri, 18 May 2012 21:25:25 +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
  On Fri, 18 May 2012 17:04:02 + (UTC), Camaleón wrote in message
  jp5ve2$jg9$1...@dough.gmane.org:
 
  You have no source repo listed.
 
  deb-src http://cdn.debian.net/debian testing main contrib non-free
 
  ..if you _never_ install source, you don't need deb-src lines.

 (...)

 If you want to get rid of the above error, yes _you do_ (see Tom's
 comment) ;-)

 ..really? ;o)

 With aptitude, yes ;-)

 root@celsius:~# apt-get changelog grub-pc
 Get:1 Changelog for grub-pc 
 (http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/g/grub2/grub2_1.99-21/changelog)
 [134 kB]
 Fetched 134 kB in 3s (38.5 kB/s)
 root@celsius:~# grep ^deb /etc/apt/sources.list
 deb http://192.168.1.140/debian sid main contrib non-free
 root@celsius:~#

 sm01@stt008:~$ LANG=C; apt-get changelog grub-pc
 E: Invalid operation changelog

 And lenny does not have that option as available.

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=526990


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Re: aptitude changelog gives You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list

2012-05-19 Thread Indulekha
On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 05:46:41PM +, Camaleón wrote:
 On Sun, 20 May 2012 05:39:29 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:
 
  On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 05:04:02PM +, Camaleón wrote:
  You have no source repo listed.
  
  deb-src http://cdn.debian.net/debian testing main contrib non-free
  
  You don't need one. The only reason you'd need one is if you are going
  to be compiling any software.
 
 Try yourself and then comment on the results.
 

Having to get by on teensy-weensy amounts of bandwidth means this
squeeze install has *never* had deb-src entries in sources.list.
Never got an error from it...

It's either a bug, or perhaps something is installed which is only
available from a deb-src entry.

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Re: aptitude changelog gives You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list

2012-05-19 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 19 May 2012 13:51:37 -0400, Tom wrote in message 
CAOdo=Sy+8WL1a90H1rAqyhhBkmsG_3Pjw4t=e0icyevzucn...@mail.gmail.com:

 Thanks but I didn't say that it didn't work with apt-get only that
 aptitude seems to need deb-src ... entries.

..aye, it's because apt-get and aptitude does these things
_differently_, and that's handy when a bug in one program 
makes you try a work-around using the other.

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NFS mounts and Debian

2012-05-19 Thread antoinejou
Hi everybody...
What's going on with Debian today?

After the aptitude checksum fail, now comes the /etc/init.d/networking bug at
startup.

Description of the problem:
After a pair of update of ifupdown and netbase (i think, but i'm not shure), the
computer failed to start and stop init process at

Configuring network interfaces... Starting rpcbind daemon...
Starting NFS common utilities: statd idmapd.

And nothing else... apparently... the computer actually start after a couple of
minutes, after showing some timout lines.

# cat /etc/network/interfaces

allow-hotplug eth0

# cat /etc/fstab
# serveur on Serveur
192.168.1.200:/media/serveur /media/serveur nfs rw,auto 0 0

Nothing which draws attention when reading /etc/init.d/networking
nor /etc/network/if-up.d/mountnfs ...

Antoine


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