Re: [ot][recordatori] demà/avui és el dia de la tovallola

2012-05-25 Thread alex
 hola
 demà és el dia de la tovallola! http://towelday.org #frikisalpoder
 salut!
 ps. especial dedicació al hubble i a la memòria del KP
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Don't Panic ...   ;-)

  https://probeta.net/m/d/m_0525095000491_dontpanic1.jpg

  https://probeta.net/m/d/m_0525095006781_dontpanic2.jpg


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Re: [ot][recordatori] demà/avui és el dia de la tovallola

2012-05-25 Thread xabi
On Fri, Maig 25, 2012 9:51 am, a...@probeta.net wrote:
../

~ Don't Panic ...   ;-)
~
~   https://probeta.net/m/d/m_0525095000491_dontpanic1.jpg
~   https://probeta.net/m/d/m_0525095006781_dontpanic2.jpg

ho veig i ho doblo !! ;)

https://probeta.net/m/d/m_0525113535526_towellDAY_20120525_dont_panic.png



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Re: [ot][recordatori] demà/avui és el dia de la tovallola

2012-05-25 Thread Ernest Adrogué
25-05-2012, 11:47 (+0200); x...@nodo50.org escriu:
 On Fri, Maig 25, 2012 9:51 am, a...@probeta.net wrote:
 ../
 
 ~ Don't Panic ...   ;-)
 ~
 ~   https://probeta.net/m/d/m_0525095000491_dontpanic1.jpg
 ~   https://probeta.net/m/d/m_0525095006781_dontpanic2.jpg
 
 ho veig i ho doblo !! ;)
 
 https://probeta.net/m/d/m_0525113535526_towellDAY_20120525_dont_panic.png

Haha, molt bona... no coneixia el dia de la tovallola.

Per cert cert, no hi deu haver cap fan de l'Església del Sub-Geni per
aquí? Fa anys a Debian hi havia un salva-pantalles amb el rostre del
Bob Dobbs (el profeta dels Sub-Genis) i el nom de la distribució
Slackware també està inspirat en aquesta religió...

Salut!


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Re: [ot][recordatori] demà/avui és el dia de la tovallola

2012-05-25 Thread hubble
El Thu, 24 May 2012 23:53:42 +0200
x...@nodo50.org va dir:

 hola
 demà és el dia de la tovallola! http://towelday.org #frikisalpoder
 salut!
 ps. especial dedicació al hubble i a la memòria del KP


Moltes gràcies xavi :)

Quines festes de la tovallola ens montavem a KP! :)

De fet escric això amb la meva tovallola (de color rosa de WC de tota la vida) 
a la espatlla.

Ens veiem :)


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Re: Système fs d'une partition ?

2012-05-25 Thread Nicolas KOWALSKI
On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 07:50:01AM +0200, philippe L wrote:
 Bonjour,

Bonjour,
 
 Comment détecter le fs d'une partition ?

blkid te l'indique.

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Re: Système fs d'une partition ?

2012-05-25 Thread Tanguy Ortolo
philippe L, 2012-05-25 07:50+0200:
 Comment détecter le fs d'une partition ?

file -s

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Re: Système fs d'une partition ?

2012-05-25 Thread Francois Mescam

On 25/05/2012 11:04, Tanguy Ortolo wrote:

philippe L, 2012-05-25 07:50+0200:

Comment détecter le fs d'une partition ?


file -s


man file -- répond pas au problème posé






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Re: Système fs d'une partition ?

2012-05-25 Thread Thomas Blein
Le vendredi 25 mai 2012 à 11:47:47 (+0200), Francois Mescam a écrit :
 On 25/05/2012 11:04, Tanguy Ortolo wrote:
 philippe L, 2012-05-25 07:50+0200:
 Comment détecter le fs d'une partition ?
 
 file -s
 
 man file -- répond pas au problème posé

Moi je trouve que cela répond plutôt bien:

# file -s /dev/sda1
/dev/sda1: x86 boot sector; partition 1: ID=0xcd, starthead 190, startsector 
30195395, 1766117355 sectors, code offset 0x54, OEM-ID Dell 8.0, 
sectors/cluster 4, root entries 512, Media descriptor 0xf8, sectors/FAT 188, 
heads 255, hidden sectors 63, sectors 192717 (volumes  32 MB) , serial number 
0x7d8070a, label: DellUtility, FAT (16 bit)

# file -s /dev/sdb5
/dev/sdb5: Linux/i386 swap file (new style), version 1 (4K pages), size 1463914 
pages, no label, UUID=----

# file -s /dev/sdb6
/dev/sdb6: Linux rev 1.0 ext3 filesystem data, 
UUID=430badb3-3e20-425d-8b36-44f3947222ab (needs journal recovery) (large files)

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Re: Système fs d'une partition ?

2012-05-25 Thread andre_debian
On Friday 25 May 2012 07:58:06 Jean-Michel OLTRA wrote:
 Le vendredi 25 mai 2012, philippe L a écrit...
  Comment détecter le fs d'une partition ?
  ( Je suis sous debian, à jour version stable ! )

 parted ?

parted est il capable de traiter les partitions sous ext4 ?
(il me semble que non ...)

merci.

andré

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Re: Système fs d'une partition ?

2012-05-25 Thread Tanguy Ortolo
Francois Mescam, 2012-05-25 11:47+0200:
 man file -- répond pas au problème posé

À moins que le problème ne soit mal posé, il me semble que si. J'ai une
partition, /dev/sda1, et file -s m'indique que c'est de l'Ext4 : cela
m'a permis d'identifier le système de fichiers de cette partition…

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Re: Système fs d'une partition ?

2012-05-25 Thread Frédéric Massot

Le 25/05/2012 13:19, Tanguy Ortolo a écrit :

Francois Mescam, 2012-05-25 11:47+0200:

man file --  répond pas au problème posé


À moins que le problème ne soit mal posé, il me semble que si. J'ai une
partition, /dev/sda1, et file -s m'indique que c'est de l'Ext4 : cela
m'a permis d'identifier le système de fichiers de cette partition…



Maintenant que tu sais que c'est un système de fichier de la famille 
Ext2fs, tu peux utiliser la commande dumpe2fs pour avoir plus de détails :



$ /sbin/dumpe2fs -h /dev/sda1




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bluetooth sous debian

2012-05-25 Thread prego jérémy

bonsoir,


je cherche a faire fonctionner le bluetooth sous ma debian squeeze

donc après avoir installé  bluez-utils je fais un

hcitool scan

j'obtien

Scanning ...
00:17:E6:7E:7D:4E   E65

ensuite je fais un

rfcomm connect rfcomm0 00:17:E6:7E:7D:4E

a ce moments la mon téléphone me demande un code a rentrer

donc je lui rentre 1234 le code par défault du fichier hcid.conf

 et la j'obtien:
Can't connect RFCOMM socket: Connection refused

et dans le syslog

May 25 20:07:16 debian bluetoothd[12475]: No agent available for 0 request


j'ai fais quelques recherches mais rien de ce que j'ai essayé ne fonctionne

merci

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Re: Système fs d'une partition ?

2012-05-25 Thread Tanguy Ortolo
Frédéric Massot, 2012-05-25 14:37+0200:
 Maintenant que tu sais que c'est un système de fichier de la famille 
 Ext2fs, tu peux utiliser la commande dumpe2fs pour avoir plus de détails :

Oulà, moi je ne sais rien du tout, ce n'était qu'un exemple ! Je ne suis
pas l'auteur de la question… :-)

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Re: Système fs d'une partition ?

2012-05-25 Thread ptilou
Bonsoir,

On May 25, 12:00 pm, Thomas Blein dag...@yahoo.fr wrote:
 Le vendredi 25 mai 2012 à 11:47:47 (+0200), Francois Mescam a écrit :

  On 25/05/2012 11:04, Tanguy Ortolo wrote:
  philippe L, 2012-05-25 07:50+0200:
  Comment détecter le fs d'une partition ?

  file -s

  man file -- répond pas au problème posé

 Moi je trouve que cela répond plutôt bien:

 # file -s /dev/sda1
 /dev/sda1: x86 boot sector; partition 1: ID=0xcd, starthead 190, startsector 
 30195395, 1766117355 sectors, code offset 0x54, OEM-ID Dell 8.0, 
 sectors/cluster 4, root entries 512, Media descriptor 0xf8, sectors/FAT 188, 
 heads 255, hidden sectors 63, sectors 192717 (volumes  32 MB) , serial 
 number 0x7d8070a, label: DellUtility, FAT (16 bit)

 # file -s /dev/sdb5
 /dev/sdb5: Linux/i386 swap file (new style), version 1 (4K pages), size 
 1463914 pages, no label, UUID=----

 # file -s /dev/sdb6
 /dev/sdb6: Linux rev 1.0 ext3 filesystem data, 
 UUID=430badb3-3e20-425d-8b36-44f3947222ab (needs journal recovery) (large 
 files)


Quand j'ai ca et que c'est moi qui et fait une betise avec fdisk
comment je peus le reparer ?
[root@localhost liveuser]# file -s /dev/sdd
/dev/sdd: x86 boot sector, Microsoft Windows XP MBR, Serial 0x42ada;
partition 1: ID=0x7, starthead 32, startsector 2048, 1953456128
sectors, code offset 0xc0
[root@localhost liveuser]#

Merci

Ptiilou

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Re: [testing] blocage gnome-shell

2012-05-25 Thread Jérôme
Le mercredi 23 mai 2012 à 00:02 +0200, Gaëtan PERRIER a écrit :
 Bonjour,
 
 Depuis quelques jours je rencontre des blocages aléatoires de l'interface
 graphique (tout reste figé). En basculant en console je constate que
 gnome-shell consomme 80% de CPU et xorg en gros le reste. Je suis obligé de
 killer gnome-shell pour reprendre la main.
 Je suis avec les pilotes proprios nvidia de sid.
 
 Gaëtan

Je lague un peu, mais à défaut de pouvoir faire un 
AltF2 r
on peut toujours faire un kill de gnome-shell, ça redémarre gnome shell
sans fermer les applications (sauf la fenêtre xchat qui a la fâcheuse
tendance à disparaître).


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Re: bluetooth sous debian

2012-05-25 Thread Bzzz
On Fri, 25 May 2012 20:09:07 +0200
prego jérémy jer...@prego-network.net wrote:

quelques liens:
http://forum.weblamp.net/index.php?topic=5161.0
http://pratyeka.org/rfcomm/
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/bluetooth-guide.xml

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Re: Clavier virtuel

2012-05-25 Thread Zuthos
JF Straeten a écrit :
 
 Jettes un peu un œil sur Dasher, s'il sait cliquer !
 
 http://www.inference.phy.cam.ac.uk/dasher/
 

Bonjour, hier je lui ai présenté Dasher. Je peux vous dire qu'il en est déja 
super content.

Il a fallu réduire un peu la vitesse. La prise en main va demander un petit 
moment. Mais, merci à vous.

Il en a été très touché. Comme quoi quand libre rime avec solidarité...

Comme a dit un autre des stagiaires:
Et en plus c'est libre. Voila qui rend optimiste sur la nature humaine.

De même, je me permet de vous remercier une nouvel fois pour ce petit moment 
chargé d'émotion.

Dommage que ces quelques mots ne pourrons qu'imparfaitement  vous la faire 
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Re: [OT-Ubuntu] Re: problemas con CPUFREQ

2012-05-25 Thread Camaleón
El Thu, 24 May 2012 16:53:46 -0300, Rolo Navarta escribió:

 El 24/05/12 10:52, Camaleón escribió:

(...)

 kernel[   77.776108] Marking TSC unstable due to cpufreq changes
 kernel[   77.776164] Switching to clocksource acpi_pm

 eh buscado por todos lados soluciones y no hay caso en el q el
 problema se resuelva, por eso apelo a la comunidad por si alguien tuvo
 el inconveniente y dio con la solución.
 (...)

 Y exactamente ¿qué problema tienes o qué comportamiento te parece raro?
 Más allá de ese mensaje, digo... porque si sólo se trata del mensaje
 pero todo funciona correctamente pues no te preocupes, el kernel puede
 ser muy verboso y esos mensajes seguramente desaparecerán en una
 versión superior.

 Camaleón: perdón, se me olvido el error... la maquina se congela, 

Ah, eso es un pequeño detalle que no mencionaste ;-)

¿Y cómo sabes que existe relación directa entre el mensaje del kernel y 
el cuelgue? Quiero decir, ¿es lo último que queda registrado cuando el 
equipo se cuelga? Si puedes, sube el archivo de registro completo (sin 
recortar) a algún sitio (por ejemplo, www.pastebin.com) para ver si hay 
algo más por ahí...

 solo se puede reiniciar con Ctrl+Alt Impr REISUB si es q quiero hacer un
 reinicio correcto del sistema, no funciona ninfun terminal y lo unico q
 queda funcionando es el mouse.

¿Puedes acceder desde otro equipo mediante ssh? Quizá sólo se quede 
colgado el entorno gráfico pero el sistema siga funcionando.
 
 No coloque OT por el echo q mencione arriba, no creo q sea un problema
 exclusivo de una distro y como ando buscando una solución al problema y
 lo q he encontrado en google no me ha funcionado y tampoco he tenido
 respuesta favorable en otras listas, pues acudí entre otra a esta.

Que sea un problema generalizado no quita el hecho de que estés 
ejecutando Kubuntu, una distribución distinta de Debian y por ende, un OT 
como una catedral :-)
 
 PD soy usuario de Debian También, solo q en esta maquina por ahora solo
 uso un SO basados en Debian

Bien, pues te diría que para intentar resolver tu problema instalaras 
otro kernel, uno superior al que sea el que tengas (no sé qué opciones 
tienes en Ubuntu para instalar kernels precompilados, pero siempre podrás 
descargar el último estable desde kernel.org y compilarlo tú mismo). Si 
un kernel superior solucione el cuelgue, entonces podrás abrir un informe 
de fallo en Launchpad indicando el problema.

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Re: [OT]Codec de video en Debian 6

2012-05-25 Thread Juan Lavieri

El 23/05/12 17:58, Angel Claudio Alvarez escribió:

El mié, 23-05-2012 a las 19:07 -0300, Javier Argentina escribió:

El 23/05/12, l...@ida.cul...@ida.cu  escribió:

Hola a todos

Tengo Debian 6 instalado y no puedo reproducir videos por ej los .dat
Que code(s) tengo que instalar para poder ver lod videos .dat ???
Gracias a todos por la ayuda y el tiempo en leer esta duda de un
principiante en Linux


Luis:
Admiro tu persistencia, así que te comento algo que no tiene que ver
con los archivos .dat.
Cuando empecé con GNU/Linux, la conexión que tenía era espantosa y
cara, pero me acostumbré a navegar por la web de forma rápida y barata
para averiguar lo que necesitaba.
Te transcribo una parte de un artículo que te va a ayudar mucho:
Navegadores modo texto:
lynx: Un auténtico veterano para navegación web en modo consola.
Aunque también tiene otros uso alternativos. http://lynx.browser.org/
links: Es como el lynx, pero mejora el tratamiento de las tablas y
utilización del ratón. http://artax.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~mikulas/links/
w3m: Tambien soporta tablas, frames y alguna cosilla más.
http://w3m.sourceforge.net/
Arachne Browser: http://arachne.browser.org/

lynx, links y w3m están en los repositorios oficiales de Debian.



Me anticipo a la respuesta de luis:
Los he probado, pero tampoco puedo reproducir los videos

que le vas a hacer...


Cierto.  Javier estás siendo injusto.  Debes mandarle el paquete .deb 
(junto con el script necesario para la instalación) del navegador que le 
permita recibir las respuestas (en su escritorio directamente, no en el 
navegador) a preguntas que él haya pensado ( ni se te ocurra hacerlo 
escribir una pregunta, eso cansa).


Ah por cierto, recuerda que el script debe ser autoejecutable y debe ser 
capaz de captar la contraseña de root que el amigo piense y por favor 
olvídate de eso de repetir la contraseña para estar seguro u otro método 
de autenticación, con sus ondas cerebrales basta.






JAP









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OT Re: Filtrar con squid acceso a sitio y redirigir a otro o devolver error de url (resuelto (creo))

2012-05-25 Thread Gonzalo Rivero
El jue, 24-05-2012 a las 22:04 -0500, dovay escribió: 
 
 
 Squid +squid guard
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Enviado desde Samsung Mobile
 
 Demian Pazos demian...@gmail.com escribió:
 Squid te permite personalizar eso agregando un html personalizado. Es
 preferible a utilizar iptables para eso.
 
 Demian

offtopic: ¿es mucho pedir que contesten a la lista? si estoy suscripto
así que no necesito copia privada. 
¿en serio es tn difícil evitar el top-posting y escribir
abajo del e-mail?
 
 El may 24, 2012 4:33 p.m., Gonzalo Rivero fishfromsa...@gmail.com
 escribió:
 El jue, 24-05-2012 a las 16:04 -0300, ciracusa escribió:
  Gonzalo Rivero wrote:
   El jue, 24-05-2012 a las 09:45 -0300, adriancito escribió:
  
   Hola Grupo.
  
   Es filtrar con Squid el acceso a un sitio y que en lugar
 de devolver una
  
   es que... ¿posible?
  
   pantalla de error o de bloqueo se devuelva un Time out o
 un tipo de
   error poco comun?
  
  
   si la palabra que te faltó fue posible, entonces si: se
 puede hacer
   eso; revisá la documentación.
   O incluso podés divertirte solo con iptables (busca
   updside-down-ternet ;-) )
  
  
  
 
  Gracias Gonzalo, lo buscaré!
 
  La idea es que cierta PC no pueda acceder a un sitio, pero
 que no le
  aparezca ningún cartel de prohibición.
 
  Salu2.
 
 
 
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Re: [OT]Codec de video en Debian 6

2012-05-25 Thread Javier Santiesteban
hay algunos reproductores como vlc que instalando ya resuelve tu caso... 
solo tendrias que abrir con dicho soft o asociarlo a el



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Editar manú en gnome

2012-05-25 Thread Ismael L. Donis Garcia
Instalé un soft en Wine el cual no tiene desinstalador y lo eliminé a mano 
pero ahora no puedo eliminar el menú que sale de dicho programa en Wine - 
Programas.


Si entro al editor de menú me deja desmarcarlo y no lo muestra, pero si doy 
click secundario y digo eliminar me hace caso omiso porque no elimina nada.


Ahora mi pregunta:

Como podría eliminarlo de forma definitiva para que no salga ni desmarcado 
cuando entre al editor de menú.


Uso debian 6 y gnome 2.30.2

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Re: Editar manú en gnome

2012-05-25 Thread Alfonso Egea Callejas
El 25/05/12, Ismael L. Donis Garcia ism...@citricos.co.cu escribió:
 Instalé un soft en Wine el cual no tiene desinstalador y lo eliminé a mano
 pero ahora no puedo eliminar el menú que sale de dicho programa en Wine -
 Programas.

 Si entro al editor de menú me deja desmarcarlo y no lo muestra, pero si doy

 click secundario y digo eliminar me hace caso omiso porque no elimina nada.

 Ahora mi pregunta:

 Como podría eliminarlo de forma definitiva para que no salga ni desmarcado
 cuando entre al editor de menú.

 Uso debian 6 y gnome 2.30.2

 GRACIAS
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Hola,

Mira en las carpetas /var/lib/menu-xdg/applications/menu-xdg o
/usr/share/applications, donde encontrarás los lanzadores del menú.
Como root puedes modificar/eliminar el lanzador que te interese.

Aunque la verdad acabo de eliminar uno aposta para probar antes de
decírtelo y no desaparece, quizás en el próximo arranque.

Ya contarás si te ha servido de algo...

Saludos,

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Re: Editar manú en gnome

2012-05-25 Thread Alfonso Egea Callejas
El 25/05/12, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió:
 El Fri, 25 May 2012 10:32:53 -0400, Ismael L. Donis Garcia escribió:

 Instalé un soft en Wine el cual no tiene desinstalador y lo eliminé a
 mano pero ahora no puedo eliminar el menú que sale de dicho programa en
 Wine - Programas.

 Si entro al editor de menú me deja desmarcarlo y no lo muestra, pero si
 doy click secundario y digo eliminar me hace caso omiso porque no
 elimina nada.

 Intenta borrar el acceso manualmente.

 Ahora mi pregunta:

 Como podría eliminarlo de forma definitiva para que no salga ni
 desmarcado cuando entre al editor de menú.

 Uso debian 6 y gnome 2.30.2

 Los elementos del menú en GNOME 2.x (*.desktop) suelen estar en:

 /usr/share/applications/
 $HOME/.local/share/applications

 Si no lo encuentras, puedes buscar por el nombre del archivo:

 locate archivo.desktop


Camaleón me adelantaste mientras escribía! :)

Al modificar el lanzador en /usr/share/applications los cambios son
visibles en el menú, pero borrando el archivo no desaparece... así que
justo busqué con locate (haciendo antes updatedb) y el único *desktop
que encontré está en la carpeta que decía en mi anterior mail, pero
allí tampoco parece funcionar...

Qué extraño...

Saludos.

Alfonso
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Re: Error repositorios en testing. ¿A alguien mas le pasa?

2012-05-25 Thread Hector Garcia
El día 23 de mayo de 2012 08:29, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió:
 El Tue, 22 May 2012 13:14:35 -0500, Hector Garcia escribió:

 Buenos días/tardes

 Al dar aptitude update en Wheezy, me encuentro con los siguientes
 mensajes de error:

 W: Failed to fetch
 bzip2:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/
 http.us.debian.org_debian_dists_testing_main_i18n_Translation-en:
 La suma hash difiere

 E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old
 ones used instead.
 E: No se pudo reconstruir el almacén de paquetes

 (...)

 Sí, estamos hablando de eso desde hace unos días en la lista general de
 Debian. Parece que hay algún problema con los repositorios, hay que
 esperar.

 Saludos,

 --
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Gracias Elsa y Edwin

Al final, tenía una linea que aún estaba apuntando al repo FTP. Al
cambiarlas todas a HTTP, ya me fué posible actualizar.

Me parece recordar, que en otra ocasión que reporté un problemilla con
repos, Simon Paillard me recomendó usar http en lugar de ftp. ¿Será
que se está empezando a desestimar el uso de FTP en mirrors?

Saludos cordiales
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Re: Editar manú en gnome

2012-05-25 Thread Alfonso Egea Callejas
El 25/05/12, Alfonso Egea Callejas a.egeacalle...@gmail.com escribió:
 El 25/05/12, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió:
 El Fri, 25 May 2012 10:32:53 -0400, Ismael L. Donis Garcia escribió:

 Instalé un soft en Wine el cual no tiene desinstalador y lo eliminé a
 mano pero ahora no puedo eliminar el menú que sale de dicho programa en
 Wine - Programas.

 Si entro al editor de menú me deja desmarcarlo y no lo muestra, pero si
 doy click secundario y digo eliminar me hace caso omiso porque no
 elimina nada.

 Intenta borrar el acceso manualmente.

 Ahora mi pregunta:

 Como podría eliminarlo de forma definitiva para que no salga ni
 desmarcado cuando entre al editor de menú.

 Uso debian 6 y gnome 2.30.2

 Los elementos del menú en GNOME 2.x (*.desktop) suelen estar en:

 /usr/share/applications/
 $HOME/.local/share/applications

 Si no lo encuentras, puedes buscar por el nombre del archivo:

 locate archivo.desktop


 Camaleón me adelantaste mientras escribía! :)

 Al modificar el lanzador en /usr/share/applications los cambios son
 visibles en el menú, pero borrando el archivo no desaparece... así que
 justo busqué con locate (haciendo antes updatedb) y el único *desktop
 que encontré está en la carpeta que decía en mi anterior mail

Corrijo (no lo había visto bien en la consola):

$ locate homebank | grep desktop
/usr/share/applications/homebank.desktop
/var/lib/menu-xdg/applications/menu-xdg/X-Debian-Applications-Office-homebank.desktop

# rm /usr/share/applications/homebank.desktop

# updatedb

$ locate homebank | grep desktop
/home/alfonso/.local/share/applications/homebank.desktop
/var/lib/menu-xdg/applications/menu-xdg/X-Debian-Applications-Office-homebank.desktop

# rm /home/alfonso/.local/share/applications/homebank.desktop

y listo. Ya no aparece.

Igual no estaría de más moverlos a algún otro sitio en lugar de eliminarlos.

Saludos,

Alfonso
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Re: Error repositorios en testing. ¿A alguien mas le pasa?

2012-05-25 Thread Camaleón
El Fri, 25 May 2012 10:14:12 -0500, Hector Garcia escribió:

 El día 23 de mayo de 2012 08:29, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió:
 El Tue, 22 May 2012 13:14:35 -0500, Hector Garcia escribió:

 Buenos días/tardes

 Al dar aptitude update en Wheezy, me encuentro con los siguientes
 mensajes de error:

 W: Failed to fetch
 bzip2:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/
 http.us.debian.org_debian_dists_testing_main_i18n_Translation-en:
 La suma hash difiere

 E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old
 ones used instead.
 E: No se pudo reconstruir el almacén de paquetes

 (...)

 Sí, estamos hablando de eso desde hace unos días en la lista general de
 Debian. Parece que hay algún problema con los repositorios, hay que
 esperar.

 Gracias Elsa y Edwin
 
 Al final, tenía una linea que aún estaba apuntando al repo FTP. Al
 cambiarlas todas a HTTP, ya me fué posible actualizar.

Eso es indiferente, puedes usar cualquiera de los dos. Ahora te funciona 
porque ya han corregido el problema ;-)

 Me parece recordar, que en otra ocasión que reporté un problemilla con
 repos, Simon Paillard me recomendó usar http en lugar de ftp. ¿Será que
 se está empezando a desestimar el uso de FTP en mirrors?

Vuelve al http, yo también creo recordar que tenía algunas ventajas 
frente al ftp.

Saludos,

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Re: Editar manú en gnome (Solucionado)

2012-05-25 Thread Ismael L. Donis Garcia
- Original Message - 
From: Camaleón noela...@gmail.com

To: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 10:59 AM
Subject: Re: Editar manú en gnome




El Fri, 25 May 2012 10:32:53 -0400, Ismael L. Donis Garcia escribió:



Instalé un soft en Wine el cual no tiene desinstalador y lo eliminé a
mano pero ahora no puedo eliminar el menú que sale de dicho programa en
Wine - Programas.

Si entro al editor de menú me deja desmarcarlo y no lo muestra, pero si
doy click secundario y digo eliminar me hace caso omiso porque no
elimina nada.



Intenta borrar el acceso manualmente.



Ahora mi pregunta:

Como podría eliminarlo de forma definitiva para que no salga ni
desmarcado cuando entre al editor de menú.

Uso debian 6 y gnome 2.30.2



Los elementos del menú en GNOME 2.x (*.desktop) suelen estar en:



/usr/share/applications/
$HOME/.local/share/applications



Si no lo encuentras, puedes buscar por el nombre del archivo:



locate archivo.desktop



Saludos,



Camaleón


Perfecto. Estaban en.

$HOME/.local/share/applications

Problema Solucionado

1 Millón de Gracias a to2s
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Re: Editar manú en gnome (Solucionado)

2012-05-25 Thread Alfonso Egea Callejas
El 25/05/12, Ismael L. Donis Garcia ism...@citricos.co.cu escribió:
- Original Message -
From: Camaleón noela...@gmail.com
To: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 10:59 AM
Subject: Re: Editar manú en gnome


El Fri, 25 May 2012 10:32:53 -0400, Ismael L. Donis Garcia escribió:

 Instalé un soft en Wine el cual no tiene desinstalador y lo eliminé a
 mano pero ahora no puedo eliminar el menú que sale de dicho programa en
 Wine - Programas.

 Si entro al editor de menú me deja desmarcarlo y no lo muestra, pero si
 doy click secundario y digo eliminar me hace caso omiso porque no
 elimina nada.

Intenta borrar el acceso manualmente.

 Ahora mi pregunta:

 Como podría eliminarlo de forma definitiva para que no salga ni
 desmarcado cuando entre al editor de menú.

 Uso debian 6 y gnome 2.30.2

Los elementos del menú en GNOME 2.x (*.desktop) suelen estar en:

/usr/share/applications/
$HOME/.local/share/applications

Si no lo encuentras, puedes buscar por el nombre del archivo:

locate archivo.desktop

Saludos,

Camaleón

 Perfecto. Estaban en.

 $HOME/.local/share/applications

Estaba allí desde el principio?

Porque a mí lo que me ha sorprendido es que inicialmente estaba en
/usr/share/applications y el otro directorio de /var/... y sólo ha
sido al borrarlo del primero cuando ha aparecido en
~/.local/share/applications.

De hecho en este último directorio sólo tengo los que han sido
modificados o les ha sucedido algo.

Me alegro que  se haya solucionado. Saludos!


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[OT] Añadir solucionado al asunto de un hilo

2012-05-25 Thread Alfonso Egea Callejas
Hola a todos,

No tengo muy claro si este asunto sería on u off-topic, pero bueno, en
cualquier caso mi duda es la siguiente:

En ningún punto de las normas (que yo haya visto) se hace referencia a
añadir Solucionado, Resuelto o similar al asunto de un hilo cuando
la persona que lo ha generado (quizás también otra) decide que su duda
queda resuelta.

No obstante, personalmente me parece una buena práctica, con la
excepción de que para los usuarios de Gmail este mensaje aparecerá
desagrupado del resto de mensajes del hilo*.

Por tanto quería saber qué parece esta forma de cerrar los hilos y así
quizás agilizar las búsquedas de información sobre un mismo problema,
evitando así la repetición de temas.

A lo mejor los listeros más experimentados sabrían decir si esta es
una práctica habitual o no en esta lista.

* Para los usuarios de Gmail que prefieran desactivar la opción de
agrupar mensajes esto no cambia nada, pero en la versión HTML de Gmail
no he encontrado cómo desagrupar los mensajes con el mismo asunto así
que SÍ me aparecen todos agrupados a excepción de los que incluyen
Resuelto o Solucionado.

Resumiendo, a mí me parece algo bueno y a vosotros???

Muchas gracias y un saludo a todos,

Alfonso
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Re: Editar manú en gnome (Solucionado)

2012-05-25 Thread Ismael L. Donis Garcia
- Original Message - 
From: Alfonso Egea Callejas a.egeacalle...@gmail.com

To: Lista Debian debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 12:47 PM
Subject: Re: Editar manú en gnome (Solucionado)


El 25/05/12, Ismael L. Donis Garcia ism...@citricos.co.cu escribió:

- Original Message -
From: Camaleón noela...@gmail.com
To: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 10:59 AM
Subject: Re: Editar manú en gnome




El Fri, 25 May 2012 10:32:53 -0400, Ismael L. Donis Garcia escribió:



Instalé un soft en Wine el cual no tiene desinstalador y lo eliminé a
mano pero ahora no puedo eliminar el menú que sale de dicho programa en
Wine - Programas.

Si entro al editor de menú me deja desmarcarlo y no lo muestra, pero si
doy click secundario y digo eliminar me hace caso omiso porque no
elimina nada.



Intenta borrar el acceso manualmente.



Ahora mi pregunta:

Como podría eliminarlo de forma definitiva para que no salga ni
desmarcado cuando entre al editor de menú.

Uso debian 6 y gnome 2.30.2



Los elementos del menú en GNOME 2.x (*.desktop) suelen estar en:



/usr/share/applications/
$HOME/.local/share/applications



Si no lo encuentras, puedes buscar por el nombre del archivo:



locate archivo.desktop



Saludos,



Camaleón


Perfecto. Estaban en.

$HOME/.local/share/applications


***

Estaba allí desde el principio?


Si, o pienso que si, porque yo solo miré ahí porque Camaleon me dijo que ahí 
podía estar y efectivamente estaba y lo eliminé a mano y cuando fui al 
editor de menú no estaba, así que bastó con eliminarlo de ahí.


Como fue a parar ahí, no lo se, solo instalé la aplicación y ahora la quise 
quitarla porque no la voy a utilizar más fue cuando no podía quitarla del 
menú.



Porque a mí lo que me ha sorprendido es que inicialmente estaba en
/usr/share/applications y el otro directorio de /var/... y sólo ha
sido al borrarlo del primero cuando ha aparecido en


Aquí tengo muchas, pero no veo ninguna de las que corren sobre Wine

~/.local/share/applications.

Aquí si estan las que tengo corriendo sobre Wine


De hecho en este último directorio sólo tengo los que han sido
modificados o les ha sucedido algo.



Me alegro que  se haya solucionado. Saludos!


Muchas Gracias por to2
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Fwd: Re:[OT]Codec de video en Debian 6

2012-05-25 Thread luis
Buenas a todos resolvi reproducir los videos, gracias a todos aqui les 
dejo con lo que resolvi


aptitude install libxine1 libxine1-all-plugins gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg 
gstreamer0.10-fluendo-mp3 gstreamer0.10-gnonlin gstreamer0.10-nice 
gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse 
gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse


cada vez mas contento en el trabajo de linux

Me he he propuesto montar un Controlador de dominio en Debian, se que 
no es el hilo del correo pero bueno aqui comprtimos los conocimientos y 
la ayuda para todos


Agrdezo a todos lo que me han repondido

Si si hay que tener persistencia jajajaa, vluntad y deseos pero ademas 
es lo que me gusta, saber linux y mas que es muy bueno y establa es 
justo el reconocimeinto y asi lo creo


Pero quier aprender mas d elinux pero todo toma su tiempo.

Agradezco a todos los que me han escrito por mis dudas, siento a veces 
las preguntas pero soy totalmente nuevo en el mundo de linux


gracias

 Original Message 
Subject: Re:[OT]Codec de video en Debian 6
Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 19:28:56 -0300
From: Angel Claudio Alvarez an...@angel-alvarez.com.ar
To: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org

El mié, 23-05-2012 a las 19:07 -0300, Javier Argentina escribió:

El 23/05/12, l...@ida.cu l...@ida.cu escribió:
 Hola a todos

 Tengo Debian 6 instalado y no puedo reproducir videos por ej los 
.dat

 Que code(s) tengo que instalar para poder ver lod videos .dat ???
 Gracias a todos por la ayuda y el tiempo en leer esta duda de un
 principiante en Linux

Luis:
Admiro tu persistencia, así que te comento algo que no tiene que ver
con los archivos .dat.
Cuando empecé con GNU/Linux, la conexión que tenía era espantosa y
cara, pero me acostumbré a navegar por la web de forma rápida y 
barata

para averiguar lo que necesitaba.
Te transcribo una parte de un artículo que te va a ayudar mucho:
Navegadores modo texto:
lynx: Un auténtico veterano para navegación web en modo consola.
Aunque también tiene otros uso alternativos. http://lynx.browser.org/
links: Es como el lynx, pero mejora el tratamiento de las tablas y
utilización del ratón. 
http://artax.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~mikulas/links/

w3m: Tambien soporta tablas, frames y alguna cosilla más.
http://w3m.sourceforge.net/
Arachne Browser: http://arachne.browser.org/

lynx, links y w3m están en los repositorios oficiales de Debian.



Me anticipo a la respuesta de luis:
Los he probado, pero tampoco puedo reproducir los videos

que le vas a hacer...


JAP






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Fwd: Re: Codec de video en Debian 6

2012-05-25 Thread luis

Hola a todos nuevamente

Si tienes razon una de las cosas que tambien hice fue cambiar la 
extension .dat por mpg y realmente siii funciono, pero al instalar los 
codec puse nuevament a reproducir un .dat y lo hizo muy bien con los 
codec que le instale


aqui lo tienen
aptitude install libxine1 libxine1-all-plugins gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg 
gstreamer0.10-fluendo-mp3 gstreamer0.10-gnonlin gstreamer0.10-nice 
gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse 
gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse


gracias a todos por l ayuda y a quien me recomendo los codec

Gracias Javier Argentina, si si jajaj tengo que seguir en la 
persistencia jajajaa, tengo que aprender, aparte le he cogido el gusto a 
Linux en especial a Debian.


Como planteaba en el correo anterior me  he propuesto instalar un 
Controlador de Dominio en Debian 6, tambien istalar y configurar sobre 
todo un DNS.


Agradezco toda la ayudo y el tiempo a leer mis dudas y las respuestas.


 Original Message 
Subject: Re: Codec de video en Debian 6
Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 18:28:34 -0300
From: Walter O. Dari wlin...@gmail.com
To: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org

Hola gente:

On 24/05/12 18:23, Cristian Mitchell wrote:
El día 24 de mayo de 2012 10:54, Paradix ;)rayn...@infomed.sld.cu  
escribió:

se me fue al pv de Camaleón, disculpenme

 Mensaje original 
Asunto: Re: Codec de video en Debian 6
Fecha: Thu, 24 May 2012 09:53:35 -0400
De: Paradix ;)rayn...@infomed.sld.cu
Para: A MI NO, ENVIA A LA LISTA
noelamac+a_mi_no_envia_a_la_li...@gmail.com

El 24/05/12 09:39, Camaleón escribió:


El Wed, 23 May 2012 16:31:47 -0400, luis escribió:

Tengo Debian 6 instalado y no puedo reproducir videos por ej los 
.dat

Que code(s) tengo que instalar para poder ver lod videos .dat ???



Que yo sepa, un .dat suele estar asociado un tipo de archivo de 
datos
genérico... ¿cuál es el origen de ese archivo, lo conoces? Cuando 
tengas

dudas, ejecuta un file archivo.dat a ver qué es lo que te dice.

Por lo general, los archivos de vídeo (con sus códecs asociados) 
los
podrás abrir con VideoLAN o MPlayer que son dos todoterrenos para 
estas

cosas.

Saludos,



cuando usaba windows .. la solucion con los AVSEQ??.dat consistia en
cambiar la extension a .mpg o .mpeg .. no pienso que en linux 
haya

que caminar mas lejos

Xaire

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Camaleon tiene razon, los archivos dat son de datos

de donde sacaste ese archivo, y como estas seguro que es de video

una forma facil de darse cuenta es

cat /directorio/archivo.dat |more

si te fijas en los primeros caracteres del archivo indica que tipo de 
archivo es


He recibido archivos de video con extensión .dat
Para ver el tipo de archivo podría usar el comando file...

file archivo.dat



Saludos,
Walter

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Duda con squid inverso

2012-05-25 Thread Raúl Rodriguez
Colegas he configurado un squid inverso y me funciona perfecto, con la 
poca docu de squid que he ido consiguiendo a traves de colegas de acá y 
de allá, el pto es que no tengo internet, y ahora nesecito 
permitir/denegar direcciones ips que se conecten a los sitios que 
publico, pero el caso es que de eso no tengo nada, algun administrador 
de red que me indique como implementar la regla en el .conf de squid


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Re: Re:[OT]Codec de video en Debian 6

2012-05-25 Thread Ismael L. Donis Garcia

Pero quier aprender mas d elinux pero todo toma su tiempo.


Agradezco a todos los que me han escrito por mis dudas, siento a veces las 
preguntas pero soy totalmente nuevo en el mundo de linux



gracias



Todavía arrastras algo de Windows (o mejor dicho de las listas de Windows) 
que a mi también me cuesta trabajo adicional al estar cortando la firma y 
pegándola debajo.


Y es que la norma de esta lista dice que hay que escribir debajo del mensaje 
y no encima. Por eso te digo (para evitar regaños) que te acostumbres a 
escribir debajo en esta lista.


Saludos Cordiales
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Re: Re:[OT]Codec de video en Debian 6

2012-05-25 Thread Alfonso Egea Callejas
El día 25 de mayo de 2012 21:27, Ismael L. Donis Garcia
ism...@citricos.co.cu escribió:
 Pero quier aprender mas d elinux pero todo toma su tiempo.


 Agradezco a todos los que me han escrito por mis dudas, siento a veces las
 preguntas pero soy totalmente nuevo en el mundo de linux


 gracias



 Todavía arrastras algo de Windows (o mejor dicho de las listas de Windows)
 que a mi también me cuesta trabajo adicional al estar cortando la firma y
 pegándola debajo.

 Y es que la norma de esta lista dice que hay que escribir debajo del mensaje
 y no encima. Por eso te digo (para evitar regaños) que te acostumbres a
 escribir debajo en esta lista.


Por desgracia creo que pierdes el tiempo Ismael

Algo esencial si realmente se quiere aprender es escuchar (o leer en
este caso) y no es la primera, ni la segunda vez que se citan
textualmente varias normas en estos hilos...

Saludos!


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Re: unir arquivos de áudio

2012-05-25 Thread Eden Caldas
Audacity faz.

Eden Caldas
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Em 24 de maio de 2012 23:30, P. J. pjotam...@gmail.com escreveu:

 Oi,

 2012/5/24, caio abreu ferreira abreuf...@gmail.com:
Lista
 
Por acaso alguém saberia me dizer se existe alguma forma de unir
 vários
  arquivos MP3 em um único arquivo MP3?

 Eu gostava de brincar com audacity qnd se tratava de edição de
 audio... agora não sei dizer se ele faz isso... dê uma olhada nele...

 [  ] 's


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Re: unir arquivos de áudio

2012-05-25 Thread Fernando Mercês
Para tarefas que podem ser automatizadas, eu prefiro usar o sox:

$ sudo apt-get install sox libsox-fmt-mp3
$ sox arquivo1.mp3 arquivo2.mp2 arquivoN.mp3 saida.mp3

Se estiver numa pasta com todos os mp3 que devem ser unidos, basta um:

$ sox *.mp3 saida.mp3

O arquivo saida.mp3 será a união dos dois.

Abraço.

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2012/5/25 Eden Caldas edencal...@gmail.com

 Audacity faz.

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 Em 24 de maio de 2012 23:30, P. J. pjotam...@gmail.com escreveu:

 Oi,

 2012/5/24, caio abreu ferreira abreuf...@gmail.com:
Lista
 
Por acaso alguém saberia me dizer se existe alguma forma de unir
 vários
  arquivos MP3 em um único arquivo MP3?

 Eu gostava de brincar com audacity qnd se tratava de edição de
 audio... agora não sei dizer se ele faz isso... dê uma olhada nele...

 [  ] 's


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Re: unir arquivos de áudio

2012-05-25 Thread Luiz Paulo Colombiano
Com o cat faz.

cat arquivo1.mp3 arquivo2.mp3   arquivoccomtodososmp3.mp3

Em 25 de maio de 2012 03:19, Eden Caldas edencal...@gmail.com escreveu:

 Audacity faz.

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 Em 24 de maio de 2012 23:30, P. J. pjotam...@gmail.com escreveu:

 Oi,

 2012/5/24, caio abreu ferreira abreuf...@gmail.com:
Lista
 
Por acaso alguém saberia me dizer se existe alguma forma de unir
 vários
  arquivos MP3 em um único arquivo MP3?

 Eu gostava de brincar com audacity qnd se tratava de edição de
 audio... agora não sei dizer se ele faz isso... dê uma olhada nele...

 [  ] 's


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Re: unir arquivos de áudio

2012-05-25 Thread Fernando Mercês
Luiz,

Bem verdade, não tinha pensado nisso. Por vezes até esqueço que a função do
cat é concatenar arquivos.

Fica a dica do sox se os arquivos forem .wav por exemplo:

$ sox *.wav out.mp3

Abraços!

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2012/5/25 Luiz Paulo Colombiano lpcolombi...@gmail.com

 Com o cat faz.

 cat arquivo1.mp3 arquivo2.mp3   arquivoccomtodososmp3.mp3

 Em 25 de maio de 2012 03:19, Eden Caldas edencal...@gmail.com escreveu:

 Audacity faz.

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 Em 24 de maio de 2012 23:30, P. J. pjotam...@gmail.com escreveu:

 Oi,

 2012/5/24, caio abreu ferreira abreuf...@gmail.com:
Lista
 
Por acaso alguém saberia me dizer se existe alguma forma de unir
 vários
  arquivos MP3 em um único arquivo MP3?

 Eu gostava de brincar com audacity qnd se tratava de edição de
 audio... agora não sei dizer se ele faz isso... dê uma olhada nele...

 [  ] 's


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VirtualBox ve USB

2012-05-25 Thread jinhitmanBarracuda
  Merhaba
Debian Squeeze kullanıyorum. Virtualbox üzerinden çeşitli sanal sistemler
kurarak uzun soluklu denemeler
yapıyorum. Ancak şöyle bir sorunum var. Bir çok kez VirtualBox modülleri
sistemde yüklüyken USB harici disk, mouse,
USB stick vs. donanımları sistemden kaldırıp, yerinden söktüğümde sistemim
kilitleniyor. Bunu  farklı üreticilerin
farklı model ve seri desktop, laptop cihazlarında yaşadığımıda
belirtmeliyim. Modülleri sistemden kaldırdıktan
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Re: Mounting local filesystem failed on boot

2012-05-25 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2012-05-24 at 19:57 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
 Kindly check this also
 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=425199
  there is some thing with proc mount

Subject: Re: Bug#425199: Mounting local filesystems... Failed!
Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 15:04:55 +
 Is it an issue with initscripts in current testing/unstable?  I've
 updated the mountall shell functions to merge initscripts defaults
 with matching fstab entries, so both should be supported equally well
 now, and this should have solved this bug.

So there was a bug in January? It was solved? And appears now again? :(

You should file a bug report.

- Ralf

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Re: Word Perfect 5.1 under Free Dos

2012-05-25 Thread Charles Kroeger
On Fri, 25 May 2012 03:10:02 +0200
Arnt Karlsen a...@c2i.net wrote:

 ..and it probably doesn't need real hardware either, run it 
 in a virtual machine and tell us how it worked for you. :o)

I'll be glad to report back but first a little help:

I take it this isn't about using DOSMU but a virtual machine with a FAT16 file
system like going back to 1987. How can I do that?

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Re: Mounting local filesystem failed on boot

2012-05-25 Thread Muhammad Yousuf Khan
On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 11:37 PM, Roger Leigh rle...@codelibre.net wrote:

 On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 07:57:32PM +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
  On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 6:33 PM, Muhammad Yousuf Khan sir...@gmail.com 
  wrote:
   On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 6:28 PM, Muhammad Yousuf Khan sir...@gmail.com 
   wrote:
   On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 6:02 PM, Ralf Mardorf
   ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote:
   On Thu, 2012-05-24 at 17:40 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
   i am getting Mounting local filesystem failed on every boot. and the
   problem line in fstab is
  
   proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0
  
   This can't be the cause. The line is correct.
  
   what this proc mount is for. as i haven’t created it.
  
   The proc file system is a pseudo-file system which is used as an
   interface to kernel data structures. It is commonly mounted at /proc. -
   http://linux.die.net/man/5/proc
  
   There's an entry in fstab, when /proc is NOT on it's own partition.
   You also can try
  
  
   proc            /proc           proc    nodev,noexec,nosuid 0       0
 
  Kindly check this also
  http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=425199
   there is some thing with proc mount

 This depends on which distribution you are using?  Are you on
 stable, testing, unstable, or something else?




  If you're on
 testing or unstable, this bug /should/ be fixed.  If it's what
 I'm thinking it is, the mountkernfs script (and now also the
 initramfs) mounts proc with the same parameters as are by
 default in /etc/fstab.  If you're on testing/unstable, you
 could also try initscripts/sysvinit from experimental.

 The proper solution is to get debian-installer to not create
 this (useless) /etc/fstab entry in the first place.

 The only reason the bug is open is because I haven't had
 proper confirmation it's fixed, so knowing which distribution
 you're using will be important to know.

ok here are the details,

root@abc:/etc# cat debian_version
6.0.4
root@abc:/etc# uname -a
Linux abc 2.6.32-5-686 #1 SMP Mon Jan 16 16:04:25 UTC 2012 i686 GNU/Linux



 Regards,
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Re: Mounting local filesystem failed on boot

2012-05-25 Thread Muhammad Yousuf Khan
On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 11:07 AM, Ralf Mardorf
ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote:
 On Thu, 2012-05-24 at 19:57 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
 Kindly check this also
 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=425199
  there is some thing with proc mount

 Subject: Re: Bug#425199: Mounting local filesystems... Failed!
 Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 15:04:55 +
 Is it an issue with initscripts in current testing/unstable?  I've
 updated the mountall shell functions to merge initscripts defaults
 with matching fstab entries, so both should be supported equally well
 now, and this should have solved this bug.

 So there was a bug in January? It was solved? And appears now again? :(

 You should file a bug report.

i am not sure if it is a bug or my mistake as i am new to linux. i
think i should verify at my end first instead of reporting false bug
:)


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Re: How to get new RSA key in known_hosts file?

2012-05-25 Thread Markus Schönhaber
25.05.2012 07:45, Scott Ferguson:

 On 25/05/12 13:47, Celejar wrote:
 On Thu, 24 May 2012 20:24:49 -0700 Marc Shapiro
 marcns...@gmail.com wrote:

 @@@ @ 
 WARNING: REMOTE HOST IDENTIFICATION HAS CHANGED! @ 
 @@@ IT IS 
 POSSIBLE THAT SOMEONE IS DOING SOMETHING NASTY!

 ...
 It is also possible that the RSA host key has just been changed. 
 The fingerprint for the RSA key sent by the remote host is 
 cb:fa:a3:10:3d:01:c0:e6:6a:2d:3e:59:e1:b9:4e:b8. Please contact 
 your system administrator. Add correct host key in 
 /home/marc/.ssh/known_hosts to get rid of this message. Offending
 key in /home/marc/.ssh/known_hosts:1

 How do I manually enter the rsa key, or get ssh to do so, so that I
 can connect again?

 Issue 'ssh-keygen -R your_hostname_or_ip_address'
 
 Marc has previously connected to a given address and stored a key.

Yes.

 That address now has another key - the correct (IMO) approach is to
 delete the old key for that address (remove the 1st entry in
 ~/.ssh/known_hosts.

Yes.

 i.e. change the key stored for *that* computer.
 
 You've asked him to change *his* key which will have no effect on the
 problem (the machine he's connecting to still has a new key that differs
 from the one he has stored).

Wrong. Celejar's advice is correct.
man ssh-keygen
| -R hostname
|Removes all keys belonging to hostname from a known_hosts
|file.  This option is useful to delete hashed hosts (see the -H
option above).

One can, of course, edit known_hosts manually to achieve the same
effect. But I consider ssh-keygen -R to be the safer method.

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Re: Mounting local filesystem failed on boot

2012-05-25 Thread Roger Leigh
On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 11:38:08AM +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
 On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 11:37 PM, Roger Leigh rle...@codelibre.net wrote:
 
  On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 07:57:32PM +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
   On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 6:33 PM, Muhammad Yousuf Khan sir...@gmail.com 
   wrote:
On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 6:28 PM, Muhammad Yousuf Khan 
sir...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 6:02 PM, Ralf Mardorf
ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote:
On Thu, 2012-05-24 at 17:40 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
i am getting Mounting local filesystem failed on every boot. and the
problem line in fstab is
   
proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0
   
This can't be the cause. The line is correct.
   
what this proc mount is for. as i haven’t created it.
   
The proc file system is a pseudo-file system which is used as an
interface to kernel data structures. It is commonly mounted at 
/proc. -
http://linux.die.net/man/5/proc
   
There's an entry in fstab, when /proc is NOT on it's own partition.
You also can try
   
   
proc            /proc           proc    nodev,noexec,nosuid 0       0
  
   Kindly check this also
   http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=425199
    there is some thing with proc mount
 
  This depends on which distribution you are using?  Are you on
  stable, testing, unstable, or something else?
 ok here are the details,
 
 root@abc:/etc# cat debian_version
 6.0.4

OK, so this is stable.  It should be fixed in testing and unstable
now.  I also filed a bug to remove it from fstab for new installs:
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=674481


Regards,
Roger

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Re: How to get new RSA key in known_hosts file?

2012-05-25 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 25/05/12 17:00, Markus Schönhaber wrote:
snipped

 man ssh-keygen
 | -R hostname
 |Removes all keys belonging to hostname from a known_hosts
 |file.  This option is useful to delete hashed hosts (see the -H
 option above).
 
 One can, of course, edit known_hosts manually to achieve the same
 effect. 


But I consider ssh-keygen -R to be the safer method.

And I agree.
And thanks for reminding me to read the man - I'd simply confirmed that
the quoted command didn't work without realising it was just wrongly used.


Please read the post I was responding to again :-)
ssh-keygen -R your_hostname_or_ip_address *will not solve the OP's
problem*.

Which would explain the OP's reponse to that.


ssh-keygen -R the_remote_ip_address *will work*
as will deleting the conflicting entry in known_hosts





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Re: Mounting local filesystem failed on boot

2012-05-25 Thread Muhammad Yousuf Khan
On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Roger Leigh rle...@codelibre.net wrote:
 On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 11:38:08AM +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
 On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 11:37 PM, Roger Leigh rle...@codelibre.net wrote:
 
  On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 07:57:32PM +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
   On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 6:33 PM, Muhammad Yousuf Khan sir...@gmail.com 
   wrote:
On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 6:28 PM, Muhammad Yousuf Khan 
sir...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 6:02 PM, Ralf Mardorf
ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote:
On Thu, 2012-05-24 at 17:40 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
i am getting Mounting local filesystem failed on every boot. and the
problem line in fstab is
   
proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0
   
This can't be the cause. The line is correct.
   
what this proc mount is for. as i haven’t created it.
   
The proc file system is a pseudo-file system which is used as an
interface to kernel data structures. It is commonly mounted at 
/proc. -
http://linux.die.net/man/5/proc
   
There's an entry in fstab, when /proc is NOT on it's own partition.
You also can try
   
   
proc            /proc           proc    nodev,noexec,nosuid 0       0
  
   Kindly check this also
   http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=425199
    there is some thing with proc mount
 
  This depends on which distribution you are using?  Are you on
  stable, testing, unstable, or something else?
 ok here are the details,

 root@abc:/etc# cat debian_version
 6.0.4

 OK, so this is stable.  It should be fixed in testing and unstable
 now.  I also filed a bug to remove it from fstab for new installs:
 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=674481
thanks,
so  does it means that, i should comment the proc mount in /etc/fstab,
and it is safe

Thanks,




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Configure sudo

2012-05-25 Thread Denis Witt
Hi List,

we're running a server for a german bank. Of course we want to keep our 
services secure. A partner of us has to install a web based service (php, 
python and sql) on this machine. This partner will also be in charge in support 
and maintenance of this software.

So he needs access to the server, sftp isn't enough. There may be changes in 
the web server php.ini necessary from time to time. The web server needs some 
restarting, etc. Files must be edited and so on.

sudo might be a fine solution, but sudo is way too mighty in it's defaults. I 
know that you can allow and disallow certain commands only.

sudo su must be disabled of course, also /etc/sudoers must be write protected, 
even for root. This is no problem if you use chattr +i /etc/sudoers. 

But i think enable all commands and disallow some, line su and all known shells 
;), isn't a good way to go. I would like to disallow all commands by default 
but allow some of them:

* restarting of web server
* editing of php.ini
* file transfer (ftp-ssl, sftp, http, etc.)
* chmod/chown (some files only)
* git, svn, rcs
* some editors
* apt-get install but not remove
* dpkg-reconfigure

What else?

When i did some tests with sudoers i wasn't able to disallow certain commands 
with parameters like:

passwd root

The only way was to disable passwd at all, which isn't nice. Is there another 
way to allow some parameters for certain commands?

Thanks!

Best regards
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Re: Mounting local filesystem failed on boot

2012-05-25 Thread Roger Leigh
On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 01:03:12PM +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
 On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Roger Leigh rle...@codelibre.net wrote:
 
  OK, so this is stable.  It should be fixed in testing and unstable
  now.  I also filed a bug to remove it from fstab for new installs:
  http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=674481
 thanks,
 so  does it means that, i should comment the proc mount in /etc/fstab,
 and it is safe

It's absolutely safe to comment out or delete.


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Re: Install unrar on Lenny

2012-05-25 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 23 mai 12, 09:38:19, Tom H wrote:
 
 Just checked the Debian multimedia for the UK and it was correct. I
 suspect that debian-muldimedia and deb-multimedia will coexist for
 some time.

I just switched to a mirror ;)

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Re: can't seem to find xorg.conf

2012-05-25 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 24 mai 12, 09:42:28, Indulekha wrote:
 On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 03:38:05PM +0100, Michael Fothergill wrote:
  Dear folks,
  
  Isn't xorg.conf supposed to be in /etc/X11?
  
 
 /usr/share/X11 is the new location.

Just for the archives, that is where X stores its defaults, but it 
should definitely not be edited by the user.

If you want to override some defaults (generally not needed) then you 
can always create xorg.conf under /etc/X11/ with just the bits you need, 
or several files under /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/

Hope this explains,
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Re: dhclient does not recognize config file

2012-05-25 Thread Joel Roth
On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 03:13:13PM -0700, Paul Zimmerman wrote:
 References: 1337870001.52679.yahoomail...@web162602.mail.bf1.yahoo.com, 
 jplntu$a15$2...@dough.gmane.org
 
 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: 
 
 On Thu, 24 May 2012 07:33:21 -0700, Paul Zimmerman wrote: 
 
  All I need it to do is prepend the local host to resolv.conf so dnscaching 
  will work. 
 
 You mean the prepend domain-name-servers 127.0.0.1 stanza? 
 
 Yes, that's what I tried first. It has absolutely no effect. 

I'm listening, too, as was frustrated trying to use
this option the last time I sought to set up DNS caching.

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RE: Configure sudo

2012-05-25 Thread Regendoerp, Achim
Having a quick google look, perhaps this could be a solution for your problem:

http://www.unix.com/unix-advanced-expert-users/39736-sudoer-file-controlling-parameters.html

I'm sure though you can specify the parameters used in the sudoers file, one of 
my (private) machines is set up in that way to allow others only to restart 
Apache.
Will have to double check though at a later point, no access to it from work 
place...


 -Original Message-
 From: Denis Witt [mailto:denis.w...@concepts-and-training.de]
 Sent: 25 May 2012 09:13
 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Subject: Configure sudo

 Hi List,

 we're running a server for a german bank. Of course we want to keep our
 services secure. A partner of us has to install a web based service (php,
 python and sql) on this machine. This partner will also be in charge in 
 support
 and maintenance of this software.

 So he needs access to the server, sftp isn't enough. There may be changes in
 the web server php.ini necessary from time to time. The web server needs
 some restarting, etc. Files must be edited and so on.

 sudo might be a fine solution, but sudo is way too mighty in it's defaults. I
 know that you can allow and disallow certain commands only.

 sudo su must be disabled of course, also /etc/sudoers must be write
 protected, even for root. This is no problem if you use chattr +i 
 /etc/sudoers.

 But i think enable all commands and disallow some, line su and all known
 shells ;), isn't a good way to go. I would like to disallow all commands by
 default but allow some of them:

 * restarting of web server
 * editing of php.ini
 * file transfer (ftp-ssl, sftp, http, etc.)
 * chmod/chown (some files only)
 * git, svn, rcs
 * some editors
 * apt-get install but not remove
 * dpkg-reconfigure

 What else?

 When i did some tests with sudoers i wasn't able to disallow certain
 commands with parameters like:

 passwd root

 The only way was to disable passwd at all, which isn't nice. Is there another
 way to allow some parameters for certain commands?

 Thanks!

 Best regards
 Denis

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Re: Configure sudo

2012-05-25 Thread rjc
On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 09:13:05AM BST, Denis Witt wrote:
 sudo su must be disabled of course, also /etc/sudoers must be write 
 protected, even for root. This is no problem if you use chattr +i 
 /etc/sudoers.

/etc/sudoers file is read only by default.

 But i think enable all commands and disallow some, line su and all known 
 shells ;), isn't a good way to go. I would like to disallow all commands by 
 default but allow some of them:

What's wrong with specifying ONLY the commands which a user is allowed
to run as root?

 * restarting of web server
 * editing of php.ini
 * file transfer (ftp-ssl, sftp, http, etc.)
 * chmod/chown (some files only)
 * git, svn, rcs
 * some editors
 * apt-get install but not remove
 * dpkg-reconfigure
 
 What else?

What else is he supposed to do?

 When i did some tests with sudoers i wasn't able to disallow certain commands 
 with parameters like:
 
 passwd root
 
 The only way was to disable passwd at all, which isn't nice. Is there another 
 way to allow some parameters for certain commands?

Yes, simply specify the commands with their options:

userhost = /path/to/command option

You might find aliases useful.

man sudoers

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Re: Configure sudo

2012-05-25 Thread Slavko
Hi,

i am not sudo expert, but consider my notes:

by default are all commands disabled. If you enable some command, then
other still will be disabled.

Dňa Fri, 25 May 2012 10:13:05 +0200 Denis Witt
denis.w...@concepts-and-training.de napísal:

 * editing of php.ini

it is possible to set in /etc/sudoers whole command line (with file name),
but see bellow. Try tweak unix group memberships for this.

 * some editors

here can be security problem, because some of the editors can run the
shell, or allow to open more files. If you allow open editor with high
privileges, then these privileges can be used to open other files or
execute commands too. I found the sudoedit command, try read more about
it, but the editor's problem is still here.

 * apt-get install but not remove

IMO this is possible by setting whole command apt-get options * in
sudoers, but i never tried this. I have on one my server this:

User_AliasEJABBER = snmp, www-data
...
EJABBER ALL=(ejabberd) NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/ejabberdctl stats *

by this line (i hope) only snmp and www-data can run
/usr/sbin/ejabberdctl stats * command. The asterisk can be replaced by
any other option (package name for you). But be careful with apt-get,
because there can be more than one (install, remove, ...) command can be
used in one line... Perhaps some shell script for this, which will accept
only package names?

Some time ago i read sudo manual with nice examples at sudo homepage, try
read it. 

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Re: Configure sudo

2012-05-25 Thread Tom H
On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 4:13 AM, Denis Witt
denis.w...@concepts-and-training.de wrote:

 we're running a server for a german bank. Of course we want to keep our 
 services secure. A partner of us has to install a web based service (php, 
 python and sql) on this machine. This partner will also be in charge in 
 support and maintenance of this software.

 So he needs access to the server, sftp isn't enough. There may be changes in 
 the web server php.ini necessary from time to time. The web server needs some 
 restarting, etc. Files must be edited and so on.

 sudo might be a fine solution, but sudo is way too mighty in it's defaults. I 
 know that you can allow and disallow certain commands only.

 sudo su must be disabled of course, also /etc/sudoers must be write 
 protected, even for root. This is no problem if you use chattr +i 
 /etc/sudoers.

 But i think enable all commands and disallow some, line su and all known 
 shells ;), isn't a good way to go. I would like to disallow all commands by 
 default but allow some of them:

 * restarting of web server
 * editing of php.ini
 * file transfer (ftp-ssl, sftp, http, etc.)
 * chmod/chown (some files only)
 * git, svn, rcs
 * some editors
 * apt-get install but not remove
 * dpkg-reconfigure

 What else?

 When i did some tests with sudoers i wasn't able to disallow certain commands 
 with parameters like:

 passwd root

 The only way was to disable passwd at all, which isn't nice. Is there another 
 way to allow some parameters for certain commands?

Many of these commands don't need root access. Why don't you just
determine the commands that have to be run as root, create a group of
people who'll use these commands (partner) or a User_Alias of people
who'll use these commands (PARTUSR), create a Cmnd_Alias
(PARTCMD) with all these commands, and then create the following
sudo entry

%partner ALL = (root) PARTCMD
or
PARTUSR ALL = (root) PARTCMD

You can/should also replace the ALL by the server's hostname.


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Re: Configure sudo

2012-05-25 Thread Tom H
On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 5:54 AM, Regendoerp, Achim
achim.regendo...@galacoral.com wrote:

 Having a quick google look, perhaps this could be a solution for your problem:

 http://www.unix.com/unix-advanced-expert-users/39736-sudoer-file-controlling-parameters.html

I'd put the scripts in /usr/local/{,s}bin rather than in /sbin.

The sudo rules are strange because there's no run-as user listed. Does
sudo default to (root) or to (ALL) that way?


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how to update Debian OS properly

2012-05-25 Thread Muhammad Yousuf Khan
well, I have questions about upgrading Linux. since i have been using
Microsoft for years the concept of upgrade I think is different from
Linux upgrade.

in a testing environment I was trying to upgrade the security patches
and I run the command
apt-get upgrade.
It ran fine, but at the end it upgraded my whole OS, first my test
machine was showing Debian version 6.0.4 now after the upgrade it
shifted to Wheezy/SID which I think is unstable.

In Microsoft when we upgrade  the OS. it downloads only the security
and OS patches.

So the question are

1. how to upgrade only the security patches?
2. if the upgrade patch trigger any critical issue. Like any service
like hosting, filesharing or squid got effected by the update, how
come we know which patch cause this problem and how to remove that
specific patch because in Microsoft I have seen that security patches
and OS patches some time make problems when run along with ongoing
services.

3. how to revert back to old OS, for example, in my case i upgraded my
system from 6.0.4 to Wheezy/SID now want to revert things back.

Thanks


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[OT] non-www to www redirect works with a little issue

2012-05-25 Thread J. Bakshi
Hello list,

I have place the following in my .htaccess to redirect non-www to www 
redirection 

`
RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} ^example\.com$
RewriteRule ^(.*) http://www.example.com/$1 [R=301]

```

The redirect work well but a little hitch.
Say If I visit http://example.com/page1.html it redirect to
http://www.example.com so at the home page. Where it should
append the www before the link, but not alter the link.

What modification should I add here to make it work ?

Thanks


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Re: how to update Debian OS properly

2012-05-25 Thread Ralf Mardorf
PS:

I like Synaptic, a GUI for the package management. It automatically set
up an upgrade history. You manually can set up a history when using apt,
however, Synaptic is very comfortable.

A history provides information this way:
package_name (1.11.4) to 1.12.0

Note, for the standard repository 1.11.4 is replaced by 1.12.0 too, so
you can't simply downgrade using the same repository. You need another
repository or to keep packages.


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Re: how to update Debian OS properly

2012-05-25 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 2012-05-25 at 15:57 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
 3. how to revert back to old OS, for example, in my case i upgraded my
 system from 6.0.4 to Wheezy/SID now want to revert things back.

If your repositories are explicit for stable, than there shouldn't
happen an upgrade to testing or unstable.

To restore your Debian stable in the future, IMO the easiest way is to
do a backup before upgrading and to restore from such a backup if
needed.

You can backup any Linux from another Linux, e.g. from a live media, if
you're root and run

cd /path/to/debian_stable
tar czf backup_name.tar.gz *

Globbing (here using *) and following links shouldn't be an issue for
your setup. And IMO having several backups/snapshots is more safe than
syncing backups. Btw. some dirs can be excluded, but IMO this makes a
backup unneeded complicated.

- Ralf





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Re: how to update Debian OS properly

2012-05-25 Thread rjc
On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 11:57:28AM BST, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
 well, I have questions about upgrading Linux. since i have been using
 Microsoft for years the concept of upgrade I think is different from
 Linux upgrade.
 
 in a testing environment I was trying to upgrade the security patches
 and I run the command
 apt-get upgrade.
 It ran fine, but at the end it upgraded my whole OS, first my test
 machine was showing Debian version 6.0.4 now after the upgrade it
 shifted to Wheezy/SID which I think is unstable.

Read below [0].

 In Microsoft when we upgrade  the OS. it downloads only the security
 and OS patches.
 
 So the question are
 
 1. how to upgrade only the security patches?

aptitude update  aptitude safe-upgrade [1]

 2. if the upgrade patch trigger any critical issue. Like any service
 like hosting, filesharing or squid got effected by the update, how
 come we know which patch cause this problem and how to remove that
 specific patch because in Microsoft I have seen that security patches
 and OS patches some time make problems when run along with ongoing
 services.

There are no patches like in Windows. Patches in free (open source)
software are for source code [2].

Upgrading a package you effectively installing a new version of the
software.

 3. how to revert back to old OS, for example, in my case i upgraded my
 system from 6.0.4 to Wheezy/SID now want to revert things back.

You can always install an older version of the package.

[0] It seems like you had several entries in your sources.list file(s)
- post the content of your file here.

[1] safe-upgrade will only upgrade packages and won't remove any other
ones

[2] yes, I know, you can have binary patches as well

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Re: how to update Debian OS properly

2012-05-25 Thread Kumar Appaiah
On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 03:57:28PM +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
 in a testing environment I was trying to upgrade the security patches
 and I run the command
 apt-get upgrade.
 It ran fine, but at the end it upgraded my whole OS, first my test
 machine was showing Debian version 6.0.4 now after the upgrade it
 shifted to Wheezy/SID which I think is unstable.
 
 In Microsoft when we upgrade  the OS. it downloads only the security
 and OS patches.
 
 So the question are
 
 1. how to upgrade only the security patches?

If security is your concern, you ought to be running stable as
opposed to testing. If you run stable, then ensuring that
security.debian.org is listed in the /etc/apt/sources.list will fetch
security updates.

 2. if the upgrade patch trigger any critical issue. Like any service
 like hosting, filesharing or squid got effected by the update, how
 come we know which patch cause this problem and how to remove that
 specific patch because in Microsoft I have seen that security patches
 and OS patches some time make problems when run along with ongoing
 services.

I'd advise you to subscribe to the security mailing list of the
projects which you run on your machine whose security issues you are
concerned about.

Read this for further details and ideas: http://www.debian.org/security/

 3. how to revert back to old OS, for example, in my case i upgraded my
 system from 6.0.4 to Wheezy/SID now want to revert things back.

This is a little complicated and one could end up hosing one's
system. I'd advise you to back up things and do a fresh install of
squeeze.

HTH.

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Re: how to update Debian OS properly

2012-05-25 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 2012-05-25 at 06:42 -0500, Kumar Appaiah wrote:
 I'd advise you to back up things and do a fresh install of
 squeeze.

things for your current install might be /home only. Perhaps xorg.conf
and some other files, using cp -pr while you're root. But in the future
completely backup using e.g. tar. Note, if you sync, you anyway might
lose data, since you might notice some issues after doing several
backups and not already with the backup that did cause an issue.


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Re: how to update Debian OS properly

2012-05-25 Thread Muhammad Yousuf Khan
On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 4:32 PM, Ralf Mardorf
ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote:
 On Fri, 2012-05-25 at 15:57 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
 3. how to revert back to old OS, for example, in my case i upgraded my
 system from 6.0.4 to Wheezy/SID now want to revert things back.

 If your repositories are explicit for stable, than there shouldn't
 happen an upgrade to testing or unstable.

 To restore your Debian stable in the future, IMO the easiest way is to
 do a backup before upgrading and to restore from such a backup if
 needed.

 You can backup any Linux from another Linux, e.g. from a live media, if

 you're root and run

 cd /path/to/debian_stable
 tar czf backup_name.tar.gz *

will clonezilla live CD work in this case? as i am using it very often
and  a bit useto with it.



 Globbing (here using *) and following links shouldn't be an issue for
 your setup. And IMO having several backups/snapshots is more safe than

now this snapshots point raising one more question in my mind.
did you means snapshots like XP and Other windows OS supports. for
example. i can make a snapshot before installing any service like
apache , samba or anything. and after installing , at the end i
realize that i messed up the whole box then i can revert my system
back to that particular snapshot and i will be at the old stage. can i
use snapshot in this context ( sorry for the newbie Questions but i am
confused with Microsoft and Linux as there are same services in both
OS and working entirely in different way)

 syncing backups. Btw. some dirs can be excluded, but IMO this makes a
 backup unneeded complicated.

 - Ralf





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Re: Mounting local filesystem failed on boot

2012-05-25 Thread Roger Leigh
On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 08:07:51AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
 On Thu, 2012-05-24 at 19:57 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
  Kindly check this also
  http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=425199
   there is some thing with proc mount
 
 Subject: Re: Bug#425199: Mounting local filesystems... Failed!
 Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 15:04:55 +
  Is it an issue with initscripts in current testing/unstable?  I've
  updated the mountall shell functions to merge initscripts defaults
  with matching fstab entries, so both should be supported equally well
  now, and this should have solved this bug.
 
 So there was a bug in January? It was solved? And appears now again? :(
 You should file a bug report.

No, the bug was fixed in unstable in January/February.  It's still
present in stable.  I haven't had independent confirmation it was
fixed, so it's been left open for the time being, but should probably
be closed.  It's possible that this could be fixed in a stable point
release, but AFAICT it's purely cosmetic--while it says it failed to
mount the local filesystems, it mounted everything except /proc.
If fixed in a point release, we could also need to update
initramfs-tools as well.


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Re: how to update Debian OS properly

2012-05-25 Thread Muhammad Yousuf Khan
On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 4:42 PM, Kumar Appaiah
a.ku...@alumni.iitm.ac.in wrote:
 On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 03:57:28PM +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
 in a testing environment I was trying to upgrade the security patches
 and I run the command
 apt-get upgrade.
 It ran fine, but at the end it upgraded my whole OS, first my test
 machine was showing Debian version 6.0.4 now after the upgrade it
 shifted to Wheezy/SID which I think is unstable.

 In Microsoft when we upgrade  the OS. it downloads only the security
 and OS patches.

 So the question are

 1. how to upgrade only the security patches?

 If security is your concern, you ought to be running stable as
 opposed to testing. If you run stable, then ensuring that
 security.debian.org is listed in the /etc/apt/sources.list will fetch
 security updates.
thanks for the response, but more i concern was a patch like fix
patches in Microsoft. i thought it would be working in same way :P as
i am already behind the firewall and actively monitoring things so
security from outside is not a concern for me. but securing the debian
box is also a target to achieve and security should not be neglected.
ill subscribe for the mailing list ASAP thanks for the advice.

 2. if the upgrade patch trigger any critical issue. Like any service
 like hosting, filesharing or squid got effected by the update, how
 come we know which patch cause this problem and how to remove that
 specific patch because in Microsoft I have seen that security patches
 and OS patches some time make problems when run along with ongoing
 services.

 I'd advise you to subscribe to the security mailing list of the
 projects which you run on your machine whose security issues you are
 concerned about.

 Read this for further details and ideas: http://www.debian.org/security/

 3. how to revert back to old OS, for example, in my case i upgraded my
 system from 6.0.4 to Wheezy/SID now want to revert things back.

 This is a little complicated and one could end up hosing one's
 system. I'd advise you to back up things and do a fresh install of
 squeeze.

 HTH.

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Re: (Almost Solved) Re: How to get new RSA key in known_hosts file?

2012-05-25 Thread Celejar
On Thu, 24 May 2012 22:10:15 -0700
Marc Shapiro marcns...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 5/24/12, Celejar cele...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Thu, 24 May 2012 20:24:49 -0700
  Marc Shapiro marcns...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  How do I manually enter the rsa key, or get ssh to do so, so that  I
  can connect again?
 
  Issue 'ssh-keygen -R your_hostname_or_ip_address'
 
  Then try reconnecting.
 
 That got me connected, after answering 'yes' to a few prompts, but...
 When I now try to connect, I get the following:
 
 Warning: the RSA host key for 'xx' differs from the key for the IP
 address '192.168.1.2'
 Offending key for IP in /home/xxx/.ssh/known_hosts:2
 Matching host key in /home/xxx/.ssh/known_hosts:3
 Are you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no)? yes

You can get rid of this by doing the above ssh-keygen command for both
the ip address and hostname of the remote box.

 xxx@xx's password:
 Linux xx 2.6.32-5-686 #1 SMP Sun May 6 04:01:19 UTC 2012 i686
 
 The programs included with the Debian GNU/Linux system are free software;
 the exact distribution terms for each program are described in the
 individual files in /usr/share/doc/*/copyright.
 
 Debian GNU/Linux comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY, to the extent
 permitted by applicable law.
 Last login: Thu May 24 21:14:27 2012 from new-host-3.home
 mns@xander:~$
 
 
 
 As you can see, it does connect me, but only after requiring me to
 answer a prompt and enter my password.  I don't think that I needed to
 enter my password before.  Password authentication was disabled for

? If your keys are properly set up, you should be automatically logged
in.

 security purposes.

This doesn't make sense; if the sshd is instructed to disable password
authentication, then if the key isn't available, the login should just
fail.

 Marc

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Re: how to update Debian OS properly

2012-05-25 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 2012-05-25 at 17:19 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
  cd /path/to/debian_stable
  tar czf backup_name.tar.gz *
 
 will clonezilla live CD work in this case? as i am using it very often
 and  a bit useto with it.

AFAIK yes, Clonezilla should be ok.

 now this snapshots point raising one more question in my mind.
 did you means snapshots like XP and Other windows OS supports. for
 example. i can make a snapshot before installing any service like
 apache , samba or anything. and after installing , at the end i
 realize that i messed up the whole box then i can revert my system
 back to that particular snapshot and i will be at the old stage. can i
 use snapshot in this context ( sorry for the newbie Questions but i am
 confused with Microsoft and Linux as there are same services in both
 OS and working entirely in different way)

If you don't sync, than yes, at least for Linux you'll restore exactly
what you had before, at a explicit date. I suspect XP does a kind of
sync and I suspect it will be possible for Linux too, but if you tar
your Debian or use Clonezilla to do a complete image, nothing could go
wrong.


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Re: How to get new RSA key in known_hosts file?

2012-05-25 Thread Celejar
On Fri, 25 May 2012 17:37:45 +1000
Scott Ferguson scott.ferguson.debian.u...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 25/05/12 17:00, Markus Schönhaber wrote:
 snipped
 
  man ssh-keygen
  | -R hostname
  |Removes all keys belonging to hostname from a known_hosts
  |file.  This option is useful to delete hashed hosts (see the -H
  option above).
  
  One can, of course, edit known_hosts manually to achieve the same
  effect. 
 
 
 But I consider ssh-keygen -R to be the safer method.
 
 And I agree.
 And thanks for reminding me to read the man - I'd simply confirmed that
 the quoted command didn't work without realising it was just wrongly used.
 
 
 Please read the post I was responding to again :-)
 ssh-keygen -R your_hostname_or_ip_address *will not solve the OP's
 problem*.
 
 Which would explain the OP's reponse to that.
 
 
 ssh-keygen -R the_remote_ip_address *will work*
 as will deleting the conflicting entry in known_hosts

Of course - when I wrote 'your', I meant the remote host. Sorry.

Celejar


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Re: how to update Debian OS properly

2012-05-25 Thread Muhammad Yousuf Khan
On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 4:54 PM, rjc r...@linuxstuff.pl wrote:
 On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 11:57:28AM BST, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
 well, I have questions about upgrading Linux. since i have been using
 Microsoft for years the concept of upgrade I think is different from
 Linux upgrade.

 in a testing environment I was trying to upgrade the security patches
 and I run the command
 apt-get upgrade.
 It ran fine, but at the end it upgraded my whole OS, first my test
 machine was showing Debian version 6.0.4 now after the upgrade it
 shifted to Wheezy/SID which I think is unstable.

 Read below [0].

 In Microsoft when we upgrade  the OS. it downloads only the security
 and OS patches.

 So the question are

 1. how to upgrade only the security patches?

 aptitude update  aptitude safe-upgrade [1]

ok it will only update the security patches, no matter if what ever i
write in source.list?

one more question. for example. if i wanted to upgrade. but only to
stable version not to unstable or testing. then what could be done to
achieve this. if there is no stable version update then it shouldn’t
download anything from servers.

what i want is not just security patch but also OS to OS upgrade but
only stable releases
for, example. lenny to new lenny (but stable version)
for,example Lenny to Squeez (but stable squeez version)

how it is possible?



 2. if the upgrade patch trigger any critical issue. Like any service
 like hosting, filesharing or squid got effected by the update, how
 come we know which patch cause this problem and how to remove that
 specific patch because in Microsoft I have seen that security patches
 and OS patches some time make problems when run along with ongoing
 services.

 There are no patches like in Windows. Patches in free (open source)
 software are for source code [2].

 Upgrading a package you effectively installing a new version of the
 software.

 3. how to revert back to old OS, for example, in my case i upgraded my
 system from 6.0.4 to Wheezy/SID now want to revert things back.

 You can always install an older version of the package.

 [0] It seems like you had several entries in your sources.list file(s)
 - post the content of your file here.

deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main
deb-src http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main
deb http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports squeeze-backports main
deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian sid main




 [1] safe-upgrade will only upgrade packages and won't remove any other
 ones

 [2] yes, I know, you can have binary patches as well

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Wheezy printing problem: 2 identical (?) machines and 1 does not print PDFs

2012-05-25 Thread Joost Kraaijeveld
Hi,

I have 2 identical Wheezy machines: they both have the same packages and
the same versions for those packages Wheezy, up to date as of this
morning). The configuration files in /etc/cups and /etc/foomatic are
exactly identical. Both machines should print to a network printer
(HP2200 DTN). I use Cups and Foomatic, and the recommended HP LaserJet
2200 Foomatic/lj5gray driver (the postscript driver has the same
behaviour).

Both machines print the Linux test page without problems. But one
machine cannot print PDFs while the other one prints them without
problem, be it a little slow (i.e. compared to the Windows machines that
use the same printer). The problematic machine prints a PDF file as an
almost empty pages with the following text:
PCL CL error 
Subsystem: IMAGE 
Error: ExtraData 
Operator:  ReadImage 
Position:  7
I have re-installed/purged/rebooted etc. and nothing helped so far.

Does anyone recognises this problem? Which *machine-dependent* files
exist and in which directory are there, after an
installation/configuration? Anyone any ideas?

TIA

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Re: how to update Debian OS properly

2012-05-25 Thread Brian
On Fri 25 May 2012 at 15:57:28 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:

 So the question are
 
 1. how to upgrade only the security patches?

Install stable and stick with it. Do not be tempted to alter sources.list
in /etc/apt/

 2. if the upgrade patch trigger any critical issue. Like any service
 like hosting, filesharing or squid got effected by the update, how
 come we know which patch cause this problem and how to remove that
 specific patch because in Microsoft I have seen that security patches
 and OS patches some time make problems when run along with ongoing
 services.

This is very, very unlikely to happen. If it did, someone would notice
and provide you with a fixed package.
 
 3. how to revert back to old OS, for example, in my case i upgraded my
 system from 6.0.4 to Wheezy/SID now want to revert things back.

Forget about it. Re-install stable.


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Re: How to get new RSA key in known_hosts file?

2012-05-25 Thread Slavko
Hi,

Dňa Thu, 24 May 2012 23:47:21 -0400 Celejar cele...@gmail.com napísal:

 
 Issue 'ssh-keygen -R your_hostname_or_ip_address'
 

perhaps OT, but, please, how i can know for which names_or_ips are
keys stored in known_hosts? They are not in clear text:

|1|zBsxW5sD94+nlvCxtCXY/WjYONg=|M6w3sl+hXd+VRGkCqye4BvBmkEg= ssh-rsa snip

By this thread i did some reflection and i have a lot of items in this
file. Most of them are old VBox virtual machines, which aren't exists
anymore.

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Re: Wheezy printing problem: 2 identical (?) machines and 1 does not print PDFs

2012-05-25 Thread Juan Sierra Pons
2012/5/25 Joost Kraaijeveld j.kraaijev...@askesis.nl:
 Hi,

 I have 2 identical Wheezy machines: they both have the same packages and
 the same versions for those packages Wheezy, up to date as of this
 morning). The configuration files in /etc/cups and /etc/foomatic are
 exactly identical. Both machines should print to a network printer
 (HP2200 DTN). I use Cups and Foomatic, and the recommended HP LaserJet
 2200 Foomatic/lj5gray driver (the postscript driver has the same
 behaviour).

 Both machines print the Linux test page without problems. But one
 machine cannot print PDFs while the other one prints them without
 problem, be it a little slow (i.e. compared to the Windows machines that
 use the same printer). The problematic machine prints a PDF file as an
 almost empty pages with the following text:
 PCL CL error
    Subsystem: IMAGE
    Error:     ExtraData
    Operator:  ReadImage
    Position:  7
 I have re-installed/purged/rebooted etc. and nothing helped so far.

 Does anyone recognises this problem? Which *machine-dependent* files
 exist and in which directory are there, after an
 installation/configuration? Anyone any ideas?

 TIA

 --
 Groeten,

 Joost Kraaijeveld
 Askesis B.V.
 Molukkenstraat 14
 6524NB Nijmegen
 tel: 024-3888063 / 06-51855277
 fax: 024-3608416
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Hi,

I had a similar problem long time ago I don't remember if the error
message was the same

But I solved it stopping and unplugging the printer for a while
(30 sec should be enough)

Its sound silly but it worked. :)

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Re: how to update Debian OS properly

2012-05-25 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 2012-05-25 at 17:37 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
 deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main
 deb-src http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main
 deb http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports squeeze-backports main
 deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian sid main

You're issue is related to the sid repository. If you need something
from sid, then uncomment it and after that comment it. Don't feel secure
using pinning.

You can name the repositories stable instead of squeeze, so it will
use stable what ever Debian stable is named.


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Re: Wheezy printing problem: 2 identical (?) machines and 1 does not print PDFs

2012-05-25 Thread Joost Kraaijeveld
On Fri, 2012-05-25 at 14:48 +0200, Juan Sierra Pons wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I had a similar problem long time ago I don't remember if the error
 message was the same
 
 But I solved it stopping and unplugging the printer for a while
 (30 sec should be enough)
 
 Its sound silly but it worked. :)
In effect that is what I do every day every day (the problem exist for
some time already and now it is getting in my way).

And for those thinking about sacrificing a goat: done that already. It
made the first machine work, not the second one.

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Re: how to update Debian OS properly

2012-05-25 Thread Muhammad Yousuf Khan
On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 5:49 PM, Ralf Mardorf
ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote:
 On Fri, 2012-05-25 at 17:37 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
 deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main
 deb-src http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main
 deb http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports squeeze-backports main
 deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian sid main

 You're issue is related to the sid repository. If you need something
 from sid, then uncomment it and after that comment it. Don't feel secure
 using pinning.

 You can name the repositories stable instead of squeeze, so it will
 use stable what ever Debian stable is named.

ok ill comment the sid repo. but would you please give me a hint what
do you mean by naming squeeze to stable.

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OT: Wheezy printing problem: 2 identical (?) machines and 1 does not print PDFs

2012-05-25 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 2012-05-25 at 14:53 +0200, Joost Kraaijeveld wrote:
 And for those thinking about sacrificing a goat: done that already. It
 made the first machine work, not the second one.

Two machines, but one goat only?
A second goat? A virgin? At a special time, e.g. at full moon only?
And so on and so forth ;)


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Re: how to update Debian OS properly

2012-05-25 Thread rjc
On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 01:37:16PM BST, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
  1. how to upgrade only the security patches?
 
  aptitude update  aptitude safe-upgrade [1]
 
 ok it will only update the security patches, no matter if what ever i
 write in source.list?

No, this will upgrade any upgradeable packages - be it a security
update or not.

 one more question. for example. if i wanted to upgrade. but only to
 stable version not to unstable or testing. then what could be done to
 achieve this. if there is no stable version update then it shouldn’t
 download anything from servers.

You don't upgrade stable to stable, you upgrade certain packages
within the stable distribution - the above command will achieve just
that.

 what i want is not just security patch but also OS to OS upgrade but
 only stable releases
 for, example. lenny to new lenny (but stable version)

I don't quite get what you mean by Lenny to new Lenny?
Lenny is an unsupported old-stable release.

 for,example Lenny to Squeez (but stable squeez version)
 
 how it is possible?

Lenny to squeeze upgrade is somewhat different, you need to have
entries for both of these releases in you sources.list file(s).

aptitude update  aptitude full-upgrade

will do what you want here. Bear in mind that full-upgrade will remove
packages, i.e. the ones which are in conflict with the new ones.

  3. how to revert back to old OS, for example, in my case i upgraded my
  system from 6.0.4 to Wheezy/SID now want to revert things back.
 
  You can always install an older version of the package.
 
  [0] It seems like you had several entries in your sources.list file(s)
  - post the content of your file here.
 
 deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main
 deb-src http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main
 deb http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports squeeze-backports main
 deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian sid main

This is the mistake you made, you've mixed both squeeze (stable) with
sid (unstable release) adding squeeze-backports on top of it.

I'd recommend reading about mixing of stable, testing unstable - stay
away from experimental ;^) - releases and what can you do with APT
pinning. Until then, stick with stable.

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Re: Wheezy printing problem: 2 identical (?) machines and 1 does not print PDFs

2012-05-25 Thread Brian
On Fri 25 May 2012 at 14:39:01 +0200, Joost Kraaijeveld wrote:

 I have 2 identical Wheezy machines: they both have the same packages and
 the same versions for those packages Wheezy, up to date as of this
 morning). The configuration files in /etc/cups and /etc/foomatic are
 exactly identical. Both machines should print to a network printer

If there is problem with one machine not printing correctly I'd be
tempted to think the machines are not identical.

 (HP2200 DTN). I use Cups and Foomatic, and the recommended HP LaserJet
 2200 Foomatic/lj5gray driver (the postscript driver has the same
 behaviour).

Coincidence! I have the same machine.
 
 Both machines print the Linux test page without problems. But one
 machine cannot print PDFs while the other one prints them without
 problem, be it a little slow (i.e. compared to the Windows machines that
 use the same printer). The problematic machine prints a PDF file as an
 almost empty pages with the following text:
 PCL CL error 
 Subsystem: IMAGE 
 Error: ExtraData 
 Operator:  ReadImage 
 Position:  7
 I have re-installed/purged/rebooted etc. and nothing helped so far.

Edit /etc/cups/cupsd.conf and put 'LogLevel debug' at the end. Delete or
move /var/log/cups/error_log and restart cups. Print the same PDF from
each machine and compare the logs.


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Re: how to update Debian OS properly

2012-05-25 Thread keith
On Fri, 25 May 2012 17:37:16 +0500
Muhammad Yousuf Khan sir...@gmail.com wrote:
[...]
 
  [0] It seems like you had several entries in your sources.list file(s)
  - post the content of your file here.
 
 deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main
 deb-src http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main
 deb http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports squeeze-backports main
 deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian sid main
 

Delete the last line from your /etc/apt/sources.list

(# deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian sid main)

And, I believe you can change 'squeeze' to 'stable',  remain updating the 
stable version, whatever the name.

Just as an aside; to make it easy on yourself, if you need to re-install again, 
make your partitioning scheme friendly.

i.e. One partition for swap, One partition for the / (system),  at least 
another for your /home (/or data);
then if you have to re-install, only overwrite your / partition. You should, of 
course, still have backups of your data as well.

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Re: Wheezy printing problem: 2 identical (?) machines and 1 does not print PDFs

2012-05-25 Thread keith
On Fri, 25 May 2012 14:39:01 +0200
Joost Kraaijeveld j.kraaijev...@askesis.nl wrote:
[...]
 use the same printer). The problematic machine prints a PDF file as an
 almost empty pages with the following text:
 PCL CL error 
 Subsystem: IMAGE 
 Error: ExtraData 
 Operator:  ReadImage 
 Position:  7
 I have re-installed/purged/rebooted etc. and nothing helped so far.
 
 Does anyone recognises this problem? Which *machine-dependent* files
 exist and in which directory are there, after an
 installation/configuration? Anyone any ideas?
 
 TIA

Could it be a corrupted file on that machine ?
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Re: how to update Debian OS properly

2012-05-25 Thread Muhammad Yousuf Khan
ok found a website for which generates source.list

http://debgen.simplylinux.ch/

deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free
deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free
deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ squeeze-updates main contrib non-free
deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ squeeze-updates main contrib non-free
deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main contrib non-free
deb-src http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main contrib non-free

please confirm if above repositories are good to go with,

In conclusion i found out that i should stick to stable and should not
play with the source list until unless it is necessary. even if i add
a repo then  i must comment it after installing the whatever package

On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 6:10 PM, keith km3...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, 25 May 2012 17:37:16 +0500
 Muhammad Yousuf Khan sir...@gmail.com wrote:
 [...]
 
  [0] It seems like you had several entries in your sources.list file(s)
  - post the content of your file here.

 deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main
 deb-src http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main
 deb http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports squeeze-backports main
 deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian sid main


 Delete the last line from your /etc/apt/sources.list

 (# deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian sid main)

 And, I believe you can change 'squeeze' to 'stable',  remain updating the 
 stable version, whatever the name.

 Just as an aside; to make it easy on yourself, if you need to re-install 
 again, make your partitioning scheme friendly.

 i.e. One partition for swap, One partition for the / (system),  at least 
 another for your /home (/or data);
 then if you have to re-install, only overwrite your / partition. You should, 
 of course, still have backups of your data as well.

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Re: how to update Debian OS properly

2012-05-25 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 2012-05-25 at 14:06 +0100, rjc wrote:
 Lenny to squeeze upgrade is somewhat different, you need to have
 entries for both of these releases in you sources.list file(s).

On Fri, 2012-05-25 at 17:58 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
 ok ill comment the sid repo. but would you please give me a hint what
 do you mean by naming squeeze to stable.

Comment out the backports too.

Instead of e.g.
deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian squeeze main non-free contrib
use
deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian stable main non-free contrib

Than you'll get stable, what ever it's named.


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Re: how to update Debian OS properly

2012-05-25 Thread Muhammad Yousuf Khan
On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 4:47 PM, Ralf Mardorf
ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote:
 PS:

 I like Synaptic, a GUI for the package management. It automatically set
 up an upgrade history. You manually can set up a history when using apt,
 however, Synaptic is very comfortable.

 A history provides information this way:
        package_name (1.11.4) to 1.12.0

do you know any CLI work in same way. i am not using GUI.


 Note, for the standard repository 1.11.4 is replaced by 1.12.0 too, so
 you can't simply downgrade using the same repository. You need another
 repository or to keep packages.


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Re: Dying Iceweasel.

2012-05-25 Thread Camaleón
On Thu, 24 May 2012 09:06:41 -0700, Peter Easthope wrote:

 Two systems here with current Squeeze.  One is a Compaq Armada E500; the
 other a generic desktop machine with a Foxconn board.  Try this in each.
   In iceweasel, google site:skype.com create account and attempt to
 open the account creation page.  The URI is too long to mention.

This one?

https://login.skype.com/intl/es/account/signup-form

 In the Foxconn machine, the page opens with no problem.  In the Armada,
 the spinning animation appears for a few milliseconds and iceweasel dies
 abruptly.  

The above URI loads fine here (Lenny+firefox 12). Anyway, what are the 
key differences between your 2 systems?

 In 2005 there was a thread about removing ~/.mozilla to fix a dying
 browser.  More recently, there was a thread including a suggestion to
 try this.
 
 ICEWEASEL_DSP=none iceweasel

Mmm, isn't that something related to the sound? :-?

 Anyone care to offer ideas about my current problem?

Yes, update your Iceweasel (and your flash player plugin) to the lastest 
version available, that will solve most of the browser unexpected closing 
issues.

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Re: how to update Debian OS properly

2012-05-25 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 2012-05-25 at 18:28 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
 In conclusion i found out that i should stick to stable and should not
 play with the source list until unless it is necessary. even if i add
 a repo then  i must comment it after installing the whatever package

Yesno. I'll say yes, somebody else might recommend
http://jaqque.sbih.org/kplug/apt-pinning.html

Do you need src? Src repos provide source code only. You might need
headers to compile src codes from sourceforge etc., but seldom a Debian
src. Google if there is a stable stable-updates repository etc. too.


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Re: Configure sudo

2012-05-25 Thread Tom H
On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 6:31 AM, Slavko li...@slavino.sk wrote:
 Dňa Fri, 25 May 2012 10:13:05 +0200 Denis Witt
 denis.w...@concepts-and-training.de napísal:


 * editing of php.ini

 it is possible to set in /etc/sudoers whole command line (with file name),
 but see bellow. Try tweak unix group memberships for this.

 * some editors

 here can be security problem, because some of the editors can run the
 shell, or allow to open more files. If you allow open editor with high
 privileges, then these privileges can be used to open other files or
 execute commands too. I found the sudoedit command, try read more about
 it, but the editor's problem is still here.

Do you need to be root to edit php.ini and does your partner need to
edit root-editable-only files?


 * apt-get install but not remove

 IMO this is possible by setting whole command apt-get options * in
 sudoers, but i never tried this. I have on one my server this:

 User_Alias    EJABBER = snmp, www-data
 ...
 EJABBER ALL=(ejabberd) NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/ejabberdctl stats *

 by this line (i hope) only snmp and www-data can run
 /usr/sbin/ejabberdctl stats * command. The asterisk can be replaced by
 any other option (package name for you). But be careful with apt-get,
 because there can be more than one (install, remove, ...) command can be
 used in one line... Perhaps some shell script for this, which will accept
 only package names?

You can create a /usr/local/bin/a-g-i.sh wrapper script

if [ x$* = x ]; then
echo USAGE: ...
else /usr/bin/apt-get install -- $@
fi

and give your partner (if you're comfortable given that company
installation rights!) sudo access to it.

They'll also need to use apt-get update.


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Re: Fwd: Switching between modes in mutt.

2012-05-25 Thread Camaleón
On Thu, 24 May 2012 11:35:36 -0700, Peter Easthope wrote:

 This morning I skimmed through
 http://www.mutt.org/doc/manual/manual-2.html#ss2.3 .  Section 2.3
 describes index mode and pager mode.  In index mode, typing a message
 number opens the message in the pager.  That's the switch from index to
 pager.  How is a switch from pager to index invoked?  Ie., when finished
 reading a message, how can I see the index again?

The default is printed at the top of the pager. In my case is pressing 
i that quits the pager and returns to the index but this is 
configurable.

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Re: how to update Debian OS properly

2012-05-25 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 25 mai 12, 14:49:26, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
 On Fri, 2012-05-25 at 17:37 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
  deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main
  deb-src http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main
  deb http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports squeeze-backports main
  deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian sid main
 
 You're issue is related to the sid repository. If you need something
 from sid, then uncomment it and after that comment it. Don't feel secure
 using pinning.

I don't agree. IMNSHO pinning (or simply setting Default-Release in 
apt.conf) is the correct way to use a mixed environment, because:

- installing even one package from the other repository can have 
  unwanted side effects without pinning. Use correct pinning and the 
  '-t' switch instead
- one will not be aware of any possibly security related updates[1]

[1] even unstable has some degree of security support, because the 
maintainer is usually aware of any stable security updates and will in 
most cases update the package in unstable too. Such packages are 
uploaded with 'urgency=high' and will also migrate faster to testing if 
possible.

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Re: how to update Debian OS properly

2012-05-25 Thread Tom H
On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 8:49 AM, Ralf Mardorf
ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote:
 On Fri, 2012-05-25 at 17:37 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:

 deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main
 deb-src http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main
 deb http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports squeeze-backports main
 deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian sid main

 You're issue is related to the sid repository. If you need something
 from sid, then uncomment it and after that comment it. Don't feel secure
 using pinning.

 You can name the repositories stable instead of squeeze, so it will
 use stable what ever Debian stable is named.

That means that the OP'll be upgraded automatically to wheezy when it
becomes stable! No one wants to do that. You want to choose when to
upgrade, if at all...


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Re: how to update Debian OS properly

2012-05-25 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 2012-05-25 at 18:36 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
  A history provides information this way:
 package_name (1.11.4) to 1.12.0
 
 do you know any CLI work in same way. i am not using GUI.

A script using apt, aptitude or dpkg might be able to generate a history
too. I once used one of those commands to do this. Can't remember what
command I used. Man pages and --help should help. Writing shell scripts
in a naive way is easy to learn.


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Re: how to update Debian OS properly

2012-05-25 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 25 mai 12, 15:16:04, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
 
 Instead of e.g.
 deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian squeeze main non-free contrib
 use
 deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian stable main non-free contrib
 
 Than you'll get stable, what ever it's named.

... but it might catch you unprepared if you don't follow release 
announcements.

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Re: mp280

2012-05-25 Thread Camaleón
On Thu, 24 May 2012 22:18:26 +0200, steef wrote:

 Camaleón wrote:
 On Wed, 23 May 2012 15:15:46 -0400, Celejar wrote:

 On Wed, 23 May 2012 17:11:58 + (UTC) Camaleónnoela...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 (...)

 I always avoid Canon devices as much as I can but if there's no
 option...

 I'm not very happy with my MP-240:

(...)

 Yes, that's the kind of things I have read from Canon users, at least
 when you want to get the device working in Linux and despite the good
 or bad quality of their products (which I won't comment about) the
 worst IMO is the lack/bad support from this manufacturer to Linux and
 for that reason it has been completely ditched from my list of possible
 candidates when I look for new hardware ;-(

 after all I have read now  I should have bought another printer if this
 one was not given to me. we got a dutch proverb that says: 'do not look
 a given horse into the mouth'. 

In Spanish we have the same saying: a caballo regalado no le mires el 
dentado.

 so: i will try out this machine whatever happens. 

Of course, in your situation I'd do the same.

 i see it as a challenge. if it does not work i buy myself a decent hp
 -printer with the proverbial (?) good support.

The printer has been reported to work, at least in Ubuntu, so, as a wise 
elf female said once: there is still hope :-)

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Re: Configure sudo

2012-05-25 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 25 mai 12, 09:43:07, Tom H wrote:
 
 They'll also need to use apt-get update.

On a stable machine updates triggered by cron-apt (or friends) might be 
enough.

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Re: how to update Debian OS properly

2012-05-25 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 2012-05-25 at 16:50 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
 On Vi, 25 mai 12, 15:16:04, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
  
  Instead of e.g.
  deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian squeeze main non-free contrib
  use
  deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian stable main non-free contrib
  
  Than you'll get stable, what ever it's named.
 
 ... but it might catch you unprepared if you don't follow release 
 announcements.

Again a good point and in this case I prefer using version names such as
squeeze too. I should have mentioned this too, instead of simply
answering the question, without further explanation.
Apologize to the OP.


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Re: how to update Debian OS properly

2012-05-25 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 25 mai 12, 15:45:30, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
 On Fri, 2012-05-25 at 18:36 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
   A history provides information this way:
  package_name (1.11.4) to 1.12.0
  
  do you know any CLI work in same way. i am not using GUI.
 
 A script using apt, aptitude or dpkg might be able to generate a history
 too. I once used one of those commands to do this. Can't remember what
 command I used. Man pages and --help should help. Writing shell scripts
 in a naive way is easy to learn.

dpkg, apt and aptitude have their own log files under /var/log/ (of 
course).

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