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Sergio Villalba escribió:
 Hola a tod@s,
 
 necesito una ayudita para terminar de configurar SFTP con Chroot.
 
 He seguido los pasos de este manual:
 
 http://www.pastelero.net/2008/05/14-openssh-sftp-chroot-con-chrootdirectory/
 
 Todo funciona correctamente menos la parte más importante, no puedo
 escribir en el directorio home del usuario Ej: user...
 
 Error:
 Error:/test.txt: open for write: permission denied
 Error:Transferencia fallida
 
 Alguna sugerencia.

Buenas.

Cual es el sftp que estas usando? vsftp?

Así sin mirar mas diría que es un tema de permisos. El usuario con el
que accedes, tiene permisos sobre la carpeta a la que accede?

 Gracias por todo, un saludo.

Un saludo

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Re: Debian 6 para PC Pentium 3

2012-06-04 Thread JAP

El dom, 03-06-2012 a las 13:53 -0400, acade...@pinarte.cult.cu escribió:

 Hola. Tengo una PC Pentium 3 con 128 Mb de RAM. Qué me sugieren para que
 Debian 6 se instale y funcione lo más óptimo posible en esta máquina de
 pocos recursos.
 
 Admito toda experiencia que tengan al respecto.
 
 


No sé para qué lo usarás.
Yo tengo una máquina de esas características, y corre un lenny sin
problemas, incluido entorno gráfico LXDE.

JAP

Re: Configuración source.list para servidor con poco mantenimiento.

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Esteban Torres Rodríguez escribió:
 Buenas,
 
 Hoy me he encontrado un problema en un servidor de un cliente que
 llevaba años sin visitar. Este servidor tiene corriendo un samba y el
 problema que me he encontrado es que tenia una configuración del
 source.list antigua.
 
(.)
 
 Supongo que si cambio lenny por stable y hago un update/upgrade debe
 funcionar todo, pero eso me actualizará la versión del SO y no quiero.
 
 Ahora me pregunto: que configuración es mejor para servidores que se
 hacen pocas actualizaciones? Debo poner siempre stable? Si pongo
 siempre stable, haciendo el upgrade, siempre tendré el servidor
 actualizado y en stable o debo hacer un dist-upgrade para subir de
 versión stable?
 
 jejejeje, creo que al final me he liao un poco. Vamos lo que quiero
 decir, que si yo tengo en el source.list stable, solo con hacer
 upgrade, siempre tendre el servidor en stable esté la versión que esté
 en ese momento en stable (no se si lo he arreglado o liado mas,
 jejejejeje).
 

Buenas

Un poco lioso, pero te he entendido. Creo que tu pregunta esta mal
formulada.

¿Tiene ese servidor una pata escuchando en internet?, ¿Es critico para
el funcionamiento del negocio?, etc, etc

Si esta publicado por internet, DE TODAS TODAS, tienes que tenerlo
actualizado, para evitar que haya bugs conocidos, problemas de
seguridad, etc, etc.

Si es critico para la empresa, yo lo tendría actualizado.

Ahora, sino esta publicado por internet, no es critico y demás. Pues no
veo inconveniente en dejarlo como esta, PERO apuntándome en la cabeza
que dentro de X meses voy a revisarlo, para ver que todo funciona como
debe.

Habra puristas que me digan que estoy loco. No les quito la razón, si
puedo mejor tenerlo actualizado y evitas problemas.


PD: Si lo voy a tener actualizado, si le dejaría como estable, de esta
forma siempre tendrá la versión estable actual

 Saludos.

Un saludo

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Fwd: Re: Limitar ancho de banda a la descarga

2012-06-04 Thread luis



 Original Message 
Subject: Re: Limitar ancho de banda a la descarga
Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2012 15:02:48 +0200
From: Daniel Vidal de la Rubia dvru...@gmail.com
To: Debian user spanish debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org

2012/6/1  l...@ida.cu:

Hola  a todos listeros

Tengo un problema con la regulacion de ancho de banda para cuando me
descargan ficheros tales como .zip, pdf, rar, bien solo me falla en 
algunas

paginas y en el fichero  donde estan las  extensiones lo tengo asi


delay_parameters 1 3072/102400
acl extensiones urlpath_regex -i /etc/squid/ext
.
.
.
delay_access 1 allow extensiones


El fichero ext estan los ficheros con las extensiones que permito
descargar en casi todas las web que em descarga se controla pero en 
algunas

no, lo tengo asi:

\.zip.*$
\.pdf.*$
\.rar.*$
al mismo tiempo y debajo de estas formas de escribir, lo coloque asi:
\.zip$
\.pdf$

de igual manera no logro controlar que me descarguen estos ficheros 
con
estas extensiones a 3k por ejemplo, pues el ancho de banda que poseo 
es

bajo.


Existe alguna manera de escribir esto 

Agradezco la ayuda que me puedan brindar



Buenas tardes,

A mí me pasó algo parecido ¿Es posible que la url a la que acceden no
acabe con la extensión que pones (por ejemplo:
http://domnio.tld/fichero.zip?argumentos=truemorralla=1)? En ese caso
la expresión regular no hace matching con la url y no aplica la acl.

Tal vez te interese controlar también el mime type (aunque tampoco
es infalible, ya que depende de que el servidor http sea consciente
del tipo de fichero). Haciendo una búsqueda rápida en Google he
encontrado lo siguiente http://www.juanfelipe.net/node/30 tal vez te
sea de ayuda.

Saludos,

Daniel Vidal de la Rubia

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hola a todos si creo que tienes razon lo probare, seguro quesi, lo que 
sucede es  en una pagina normal http nada de https, pero los mime si 
tienes razon, ya te dire como me fue y gracias por la ayuda





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Re: OT: combinaciones de teclas

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Carlos Carcamo escribió:
 Saludos lista.
 
 Me apena solicitar esto pero necesito un poco de su ayuda.
 Personalizando las combinaciones de tecla de mi equipo sucede que
 accidentalmente cambien un par de combinaciones que venían por defecto,
 el hecho es que no se que función tenían anteriormente, lo que necesito
 es volver a la configuración que tenían por defecto todas las
 combinaciones, pero no se como hacerlo ya que el asistente
 de combinación de teclas no tiene ningún menú donde diga algo parecido a
 volver al estado anterior.

Buenas...

No se que entorno tienes, si estas en kde, gnome u otros. En base a eso
creo que usaras una u otra aplicación para mapear a tu gusto el teclado.

Entiendo que cuando sepas el nombre del software. Podrás eliminar sus
ficheros de configuración con tus alias o bien podrás hacer un
dpkg-reconfigure paquete. Creo que esto ultimo te dejara el teclado
por defecto. A ver si alguien lo puede confirmar

 de antemano muchas gracias por su ayuda.

Un saludo
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Re: Problema con el teclado HP mini

El Sun, 03 Jun 2012 22:52:54 +0200, José Co escribió:

 Un problemita con el teclado en mi HP mini 210 (Squeeze) me trae loco.
 No sé qué puede ocurrir, que cuando escribo un texto largo, de
 repente, me salta el cursor hacia unas líneas más arriba, dejando de
 escribir donde lo estaba haciendo.
 
 Alguna idea?

¿No será que has tocado sin querer el touchpad y has desplazado el 
cursor? En los netbooks está todo tan juntico que no te das cuenta.

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Re: Wheezy se cuelga el sistema

El Sun, 03 Jun 2012 23:09:38 +0100, José Manuel (EB8CXW) escribió:

 El 03/06/12 18:13, Camaleón escribió:

(...)

 Yo no soy partidaria de reinstalar un sistema sin saber cuál es el
 origen del problema porque reinstalando te puedes encontrar exactamente
 en el mismo punto en el que estás ahora. Antes preferiría probar con
 otro kernel o con los drivers propietarios de nvidia (veo que usas
 nouveau) pero es que antes hay que saber el porqué del cuelgue.

 
 Camaleón,  me he registrado en la página que me has dado pero no se como
 subir el fichero, mi inglés no es nada bueno.  Si quieres te lo mando
 por email.

¿Mande? No hace falta registrarse :-o

Te vienes aquí:

http://pastebin.com/

Copias/pegas el tocho de archivo en el campo del área de texto y le das 
al botón Submit, ya está. Copias el vínculo que te dé y lo pones aquí.

 Con respecto al kernel hace nada lo cambie por este  con
 3.2.0-2-686-pae, pero esto me empezó con el anterior.

El último kernel de wheezy es 3.2.18, pero puedes compilar uno bajado 
desde www.kernel.org (de la rama mainline que ya va por la 3.5.x).

 Con respecto a la tarjeta, cuando compre el ordenador el disco venia
 preinstalado Windows 7, cambie el disco y instale Debian, y el sistema
 debió asumir los drivers de la tarjeta ya que no tuve que instalar nada

Ya, bueno... el sistema puede asumir mal o puede no asumir la mejor 
opción en cada caso ;-)

Para resumir:

1/ Cuando se te cuelgue el equipo, accede mediante ssh y dinos qué 
resultado obtienes.

2/ Puedes probar a instalar el driver de nvidia (el propietario).

3/ Puedes probar a compilar el kernel más modernico.

Pero yo no haría nada sin saber el resultado del punto 1/, es de vital 
importancia saber dónde apuntar (servidor X o kernel).

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Re: OT: combinaciones de teclas

El Mon, 04 Jun 2012 00:06:56 -0600, Carlos Carcamo escribió:

 Me apena solicitar esto pero necesito un poco de su ayuda.
 Personalizando las combinaciones de tecla de mi equipo sucede que
 accidentalmente cambien un par de combinaciones que venían por defecto,
 el hecho es que no se que función tenían anteriormente, lo que necesito
 es volver a la configuración que tenían por defecto todas las
 combinaciones, pero no se como hacerlo ya que el asistente de
 combinación de teclas no tiene ningún menú donde diga algo parecido a
 volver al estado anterior.

Crea un nuevo usuario, inicia sesión con él y compara/apunta las 
combinaciones de teclas para luego configurarlas en tu usuario habitual.

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Re: SFTP con chroot

El Mon, 04 Jun 2012 14:04:46 +0200, Sergio Villalba escribió:

 necesito una ayudita para terminar de configurar SFTP con Chroot.
 
 He seguido los pasos de este manual:
 
 http://www.pastelero.net/2008/05/14-openssh-sftp-chroot-con-chrootdirectory/
 
 Todo funciona correctamente menos la parte más importante, no puedo
 escribir en el directorio home del usuario Ej: user...
 
 Error:
 Error:/test.txt: open for write: permission denied Error:Transferencia
 fallida

Parece un problema de permisos :-?

ls -la /home

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una correcta forma de desinstalar una LAMP en Debian 6

2012-06-04 Thread Constantino Vargas

tengo levantado una LAMP que esta bien, salvo que la hora de instalar
phpmyadmin cometí el error de poner mal las contraseñas por lo que los
desinstale con # apt-get remove phpmyadmin y luego volví ha instalarlo con
# apt-get install phpmyadmin pero ahora ya no instala como nuevo si asume
la configuración anterior en el tema de contraseñas.

bueno inicialmente quise hacer una nueva instalación de debian 6 para
volver levantar una LAMP pero ya tengo una cantidad de aplicaciones
instalado y volverlos ha instalar me tomaría un tiempo.

les agradeceré me puedan dar una pautas para desinstalar correctamente
apache, mysql y phpmyadmin y que cuando vuelva ha instalar no tome las
configuraciones de la primera instalación

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Re: una correcta forma de desinstalar una LAMP en Debian 6

El Mon, 04 Jun 2012 08:48:36 -0500, Constantino Vargas escribió:

 tengo levantado una LAMP que esta bien, salvo que la hora de instalar
 phpmyadmin cometí el error de poner mal las contraseñas por lo que los
 desinstale con # apt-get remove phpmyadmin y luego volví ha instalarlo
 con # apt-get install phpmyadmin pero ahora ya no instala como nuevo si
 asume la configuración anterior en el tema de contraseñas.

(...)

Quizá te faltó el --purge para que elimine los archivos de 
configuración.

De todas formas, la última vez que instalé phpmyadmin la contraseña 
maestra se definía en un archivo de texto (.php), fácilmente editable :-?

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Re: SFTP con chroot

2012-06-04 Thread Maykel Franco Hernández

 

El 2012-06-04 15:35, Camaleón escribió: 

 El Mon, 04 Jun 2012
14:04:46 +0200, Sergio Villalba escribió:
 
 necesito una ayudita
para terminar de configurar SFTP con Chroot. He seguido los pasos de
este manual:
http://www.pastelero.net/2008/05/14-openssh-sftp-chroot-con-chrootdirectory/
[1] Todo funciona correctamente menos la parte más importante, no puedo
escribir en el directorio home del usuario Ej: user... Error: Error:
/test.txt: open for write: permission denied Error:Transferencia
fallida
 
 Parece un problema de permisos :-?
 
 ls -la /home
 

Saludos,
 
 -- Camaleón

Yo tuve un problema similar, necesitaba
enjaular a los usuarios por ssh para poder subir ficheros y demás...

La
sorpresa fué precisamente ésa, que después de configurar todo OK, no me
dejaba subir nada. Eso era porque tienes que darle permisos a esa
carpeta de root:root y por eso no te dejaba subir, si cambias los
permisos, ya no funciona ni la conexión...

Al final opté por algo más
sencillo y es utilizar ftp + tls con proftpd y enjaular a los users en
el directorio que quieras, y que no puedan moverse de ahí(opcion que
está en el fichero de configuración de proftpd).

Espero te sirva,
saludos.

 

Links:
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[1]
http://www.pastelero.net/2008/05/14-openssh-sftp-chroot-con-chrootdirectory/

Re: una correcta forma de desinstalar una LAMP en Debian 6

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Buenas.

Camaleón escribió:
 De todas formas, la última vez que instalé phpmyadmin la contraseña 
 maestra se definía en un archivo de texto (.php), fácilmente editable :-?

Por aquí:

/etc/phpmyadmin/config-db.php

Un saludo


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dudas acerca de qmail+fetchmail

2012-06-04 Thread ariel

hola lista ante todo mis saludos.
tengo un pequeño problema y queria que me comentaran sus opiniones a 
posibles soluciones.

estoy ayudando a un colega a migrar sus servidores a linux en este caso 
estoy utilizando debian lenny como sistema base, hasta el momento todos los 
servicios van bien (DNS, SQUID, DHC, NTP) al llegar a la migracion del 
correo me doy cuenta que el gestiona sus correos mediante domain pop, yo 
hasta el momento el MTA que he utilizado es QMAIL pero nunca he gestionado 
correos a travez de domain pop, segun me dijeron que para solucionarlo debia 
gestionar mis correos mediante fetchmail es decir obtener mis correos 
mediante fetchmail y enviar mis correos mediante mi MTA en este caso QMAIL 
estuve buscando en internet pero la informacion que encontre es muy pobre de 
como combinar fetchmail con qmail alguien ha hecho esto antes y pueda 
remitirme a algun manual el cual siguio cin buenos resultados o alguien 
puede recomendarme alguna otra variante que este bien documentada no importa 
que utilice otro MTA siempre que este como combinar ambos.

gracias de antemano y en espera de su acostumbrada ayuda.

Re: dudas acerca de qmail+fetchmail

El Mon, 04 Jun 2012 09:05:55 -0500, ariel escribió:

(ese html hace daño a la vista :-) )

 estoy ayudando a un colega a migrar sus servidores a linux en este caso
 estoy utilizando debian lenny como sistema base, hasta el momento todos
 los servicios van bien (DNS, SQUID, DHC, NTP) al llegar a la migracion
 del correo me doy cuenta que el gestiona sus correos mediante domain
 pop, yo hasta el momento el MTA que he utilizado es QMAIL pero nunca he
 gestionado correos a travez de domain pop, segun me dijeron que para
 solucionarlo debia gestionar mis correos mediante fetchmail es decir
 obtener mis correos mediante fetchmail y enviar mis correos mediante mi
 MTA en este caso QMAIL estuve buscando en internet pero la informacion
 que encontre es muy pobre de como combinar fetchmail con qmail alguien
 ha hecho esto antes y pueda remitirme a algun manual el cual siguio cin
 buenos resultados o alguien puede recomendarme alguna otra variante que
 este bien documentada no importa que utilice otro MTA siempre que este
 como combinar ambos.

Bueno, la documentación que deberías seguir es la de Fetchmail que 
tendrás disponible en tu disco duro (o el de tu amigo) cuando instales el 
paquete. Salvo problemas muy concretos que tengas con Qmail debería ser 
suficiente para empezar a ponerlo en marcha ya que la configuración del 
smtp pinta poco/nada aquí.

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Re: Debian 6 para PC Pentium 3

2012-06-04 Thread javier sanchez

On Sun, 3 Jun 2012 13:53:47 -0400 (CDT)
acade...@pinarte.cult.cu wrote:
Salud y éxitos: 

 Hola. Tengo una PC Pentium 3 con 128 Mb de RAM. Qué me sugieren para que
 Debian 6 se instale y funcione lo más óptimo posible en esta máquina de
 pocos recursos.
 
 Admito toda experiencia que tengan al respecto.

Instala DEBIAN sistema base + utilidades del sistema ... y ya tienes un SO 
completo , para entorno gráfico puedes poner jwm y si quieres poner iconos en 
el escritorio instalas además fbdesk, file-manager pcmanfm buscas iconos los 
ubicas donde necesites y edita el fichero correspondiente...
puedes usar un navegador web como el midori, office abiword, gnumeric, xpdf y 
cliente de correo Sylpheed y mil cosillas más (dependiendo del uso). 
Así yo tengo una DELL PIII a 500 MHz, 6 GB de HDD y 128 de RAM en la lucha y 
tiene desempeño. Con esto, incluso, no llamo al fbdesk y lanzo pcmanfm 
--desktop y me resulta

 
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Re: dudas acerca de qmail+fetchmail

2012-06-04 Thread Sergio Villalba

Mira en esta Web, a lo mejor tiene un producto que te ayuda gestionar
Qmail con fetchmail.

http://www.inter7.com/index.php?page=qmailadmin
http://wiki.qmailtoaster.com/index.php/Fetchmail

Yo en todos mis proyecto con Qmail, he seguido los pasos del manual
oficial de instalación (http://qmail.geto.net/top.html)

Suerte y un saludo.

El día 4 de junio de 2012 17:45, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió:
 El Mon, 04 Jun 2012 09:05:55 -0500, ariel escribió:

 (ese html hace daño a la vista :-) )

 estoy ayudando a un colega a migrar sus servidores a linux en este caso
 estoy utilizando debian lenny como sistema base, hasta el momento todos
 los servicios van bien (DNS, SQUID, DHC, NTP) al llegar a la migracion
 del correo me doy cuenta que el gestiona sus correos mediante domain
 pop, yo hasta el momento el MTA que he utilizado es QMAIL pero nunca he
 gestionado correos a travez de domain pop, segun me dijeron que para
 solucionarlo debia gestionar mis correos mediante fetchmail es decir
 obtener mis correos mediante fetchmail y enviar mis correos mediante mi
 MTA en este caso QMAIL estuve buscando en internet pero la informacion
 que encontre es muy pobre de como combinar fetchmail con qmail alguien
 ha hecho esto antes y pueda remitirme a algun manual el cual siguio cin
 buenos resultados o alguien puede recomendarme alguna otra variante que
 este bien documentada no importa que utilice otro MTA siempre que este
 como combinar ambos.

 Bueno, la documentación que deberías seguir es la de Fetchmail que
 tendrás disponible en tu disco duro (o el de tu amigo) cuando instales el
 paquete. Salvo problemas muy concretos que tengas con Qmail debería ser
 suficiente para empezar a ponerlo en marcha ya que la configuración del
 smtp pinta poco/nada aquí.

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Re: Necesito versión superior de CrossOver

2012-06-04 Thread Ismael L. Donis Garcia

- Original Message - 
From: acade...@pinarte.cult.cu

To: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org
Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 2:05 PM
Subject: Necesito versión superior de CrossOver



El por qué de esta decición es por la razón de que se manejan bases de
datos hechas en access y excel por orientaciones de instancias superiores.



Y no te sirve trabajar con LibreOffice?
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Fwd: Duda con squid inverso, please need help

2012-06-04 Thread Raúl Rodriguez






Colegas nesecito la ayuda de ustedes, el caso es que uso Zentyal 2.0.3 y 
he configurado un squid inverso, pero el caso es que cuando desde mi red 
LAN quiero acceder a alguno de los sitios que tengo en mi apache: este 
es el error que me da:



 ERROR


   El URL solicitado no se ha podido conseguir



Se encontró el siguiente error al intentar recuperar la dirección URL: 
http://server.pallares.co.cu/cconf


   *Imposibilidad de enviar la petición en este momento.*

La petición no ha podido ser enviada al servidor origen o a alguno de 
los cachés padres. Las razones más probables de que haya ocurrido este 
error son el administrador de lo caché no permite que este caché realice 
conexiones directas a los servidores origen, y todos los cachés 
configurados como padres son inalcanzables en este momento.


Su administrador del caché es d...@pallares.co.cu 
mailto:d...@pallares.co.cu%W.





Generado Mon, 04 Jun 2012 14:26:03 GMT por proxy.pallares.co.cu 
(squid/2.7.STABLE7)


Colegas que es lo que me esta faltando en el squid..., a la espera de 
todos ustedes. Como hago para que la caché del squid realice conexiones 
directas a los servidores origen


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Fwd: Re: Debian 6 para PC Pentium 3

2012-06-04 Thread LiC. YaSnIeL LóPeZ ArGüEz


Reenvio el mensaje, me lo mandaron a mí..

salu2

On Mon, 04 Jun 2012 12:36:31 -0400
LiC. YaSnIeL LóPeZ ArGüEzyasn...@servi.cupet.cu  wrote:


 El 04/06/12 11:46, javier sanchez escribió:
   On Sun, 3 Jun 2012 13:53:47 -0400 (CDT)
   acade...@pinarte.cult.cu wrote:
   Salud y éxitos:
 
   Hola. Tengo una PC Pentium 3 con 128 Mb de RAM. Qué me sugieren para que
   Debian 6 se instale y funcione lo más óptimo posible en esta máquina de
   pocos recursos.
 
   Admito toda experiencia que tengan al respecto.
   Instala DEBIAN sistema base + utilidades del sistema ... y ya tienes un SO 
completo , para entorno gráfico puedes poner jwm y si quieres poner iconos en el 
escritorio instalas además fbdesk, file-manager pcmanfm buscas iconos los ubicas 
donde necesites y edita el fichero correspondiente...
   puedes usar un navegador web como el midori, office abiword, gnumeric, xpdf 
y cliente de correo Sylpheed y mil cosillas más (dependiendo del uso).
   Así yo tengo una DELL PIII a 500 MHz, 6 GB de HDD y 128 de RAM en la 
lucha y tiene desempeño. Con esto, incluso, no llamo al fbdesk y lanzo pcmanfm 
--desktop y me resulta
 sip con todo eso te debe trabajar bien yo en cambio en vez de usar jwm,
 uso en una PC igual fluxbox, pero te aclaro has lo posible y lo
 imposible por no usar x.org, hay uno mas ligero, pero no recuerdo el

el Xfbdev lamentablemente no se entiende bien con squeeze, en los foros incluso (de los 
que le puedo llegar por infomed Linuxquestion etc) dicen que el problema es XFbdev es 
unnatended por lo que solucionar los bugs es más costos que aumentar la 
memoria del PC.
XVesa s otro más y se entiende con poco HW. De hecho los que han logrado configurarlo lo 
portan desde Free-BSD
Yo con lspci identifique la tarjeta de video (una ati) e instalé solo los 
xorg-driver-ati que me hicieron falta y es muyyy ligero.


 nombre, además como recomendó alguien por ahí el debian lenny o el sarge
 te deben trabajar mas comodos.

Si pero resulta que no están actualizados y el soft mejorado es el mejorado que 
caray
Prueba como te dije y verás como xorg mejora el rendimiento.
Saludos reiterados
javier


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Re: [zentyal-users-es] Fwd: Duda con squid inverso, please need help

2012-06-04 Thread Guido R. Rolón A.


Recuerdo que dijiste que lo estabas masticando y que luego lo compartirías.

Seguimos esperando que termines de digerir.

Quizá así podamos mirar la configuración que armaste y darte alguna ayuda.

Saludos

El 04/06/12 14:08, Raúl Rodriguez escribió:





Colegas nesecito la ayuda de ustedes, el caso es que uso Zentyal 2.0.3 
y he configurado un squid inverso, pero el caso es que cuando desde mi 
red LAN quiero acceder a alguno de los sitios que tengo en mi apache: 
este es el error que me da:



  ERROR


El URL solicitado no se ha podido conseguir



Se encontró el siguiente error al intentar recuperar la dirección URL: 
http://server.pallares.co.cu/cconf


*Imposibilidad de enviar la petición en este momento.*

La petición no ha podido ser enviada al servidor origen o a alguno de 
los cachés padres. Las razones más probables de que haya ocurrido este 
error son el administrador de lo caché no permite que este caché 
realice conexiones directas a los servidores origen, y todos los 
cachés configurados como padres son inalcanzables en este momento.


Su administrador del caché es d...@pallares.co.cu 
mailto:d...@pallares.co.cu%W.





Generado Mon, 04 Jun 2012 14:26:03 GMT por proxy.pallares.co.cu 
(squid/2.7.STABLE7)


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todos ustedes. Como hago para que la caché del squid realice 
conexiones directas a los servidores origen

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Re: [SOLUC.] Duda sobre montaje de usb en Wheezy

2012-06-04 Thread Gonzalo Rivero

El sáb, 02-06-2012 a las 20:21 -0300, Darío escribió: 
  Probablemente porque en Squeeze usarás otro escritorio que gestiona
  ese tema.
 
  De todas maneras, el error apunta a un problema de permisos, así que
  comprueba que el usuario tiene los permisos adecuados para poder
  montar el dispositivo.
 
 Tenés razón, lo probé en KDE (cuánto hacía que no lo usaba!!! que feo
 que está!!, parece un teléfono celular) y XFCE y lo detectan sin
 problemas, debe ser algún problema con LXDE, por suerte porque
 finalmente me quedo con XFCE que me hace acordar al GNOME.
 
 Para mí está solucionado, pero puede que no para los que usen LXDE.
 

hola
yo tengo lxde y hace un par de actualizaciones (desde el año pasado,
creo) me pasa eso, inicialmente editaba manualmente
el /usr/share/polkit-1/actions/org.freedesktop.udisks.policy y cambiando
todos los allow_algono/allow_algo por 'yes'. Lo cual era un embole
porque tenía que hacerlo después de cada actualización. Entonces, creo
que en esta lista, alguien dijo de este
archivo /etc/polkit-1/localauthority/50-local.d/mount.pkla

que debe tener el siguiente contenido:
[mount devices]
Identity=unix-group:storage
Action=org.freedesktop.udisks.filesystem-*
ResultAny=yes
ResultInactive=yes
ResultActive=yes

y al menos para mi funcionó


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Re: Necesito versión superior de CrossOver

2012-06-04 Thread Flako

El día 3 de junio de 2012 15:05,  acade...@pinarte.cult.cu escribió:
 Alguien puede
 decirme alguna web de descarga donde tenga una versión más actualizada, ó
 la más actualizada de crossover pro que haya funcionado bien.

 Bueno, ademas de la pagina oficial o el emule.. no se me ocurre.
 Lo que podes probar como alternativa libre a   crossover  es
playonlinux. es un asistente para instalar aplicaciones con wine,
igual que crossover., playonlinux tiene los offices como opciones.

 Ya lo probaste?


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Re: Wheezy se cuelga el sistema

2012-06-04 Thread José Manuel (EB8CXW)




El 04/06/12 14:16, Camaleón escribió:

El Sun, 03 Jun 2012 23:09:38 +0100, José Manuel (EB8CXW) escribió:


El 03/06/12 18:13, Camaleón escribió:

(...)


Yo no soy partidaria de reinstalar un sistema sin saber cuál es el
origen del problema porque reinstalando te puedes encontrar exactamente
en el mismo punto en el que estás ahora. Antes preferiría probar con
otro kernel o con los drivers propietarios de nvidia (veo que usas
nouveau) pero es que antes hay que saber el porqué del cuelgue.


Camaleón,  me he registrado en la página que me has dado pero no se como
subir el fichero, mi inglés no es nada bueno.  Si quieres te lo mando
por email.

¿Mande? No hace falta registrarse :-o

Te vienes aquí:

http://pastebin.com/

Copias/pegas el tocho de archivo en el campo del área de texto y le das
al botón Submit, ya está. Copias el vínculo que te dé y lo pones aquí.


Con respecto al kernel hace nada lo cambie por este  con
3.2.0-2-686-pae, pero esto me empezó con el anterior.

El último kernel de wheezy es 3.2.18, pero puedes compilar uno bajado
desde www.kernel.org (de la rama mainline que ya va por la 3.5.x).


Con respecto a la tarjeta, cuando compre el ordenador el disco venia
preinstalado Windows 7, cambie el disco y instale Debian, y el sistema
debió asumir los drivers de la tarjeta ya que no tuve que instalar nada

Ya, bueno... el sistema puede asumir mal o puede no asumir la mejor
opción en cada caso ;-)

Para resumir:

1/ Cuando se te cuelgue el equipo, accede mediante ssh y dinos qué
resultado obtienes.

2/ Puedes probar a instalar el driver de nvidia (el propietario).

3/ Puedes probar a compilar el kernel más modernico.

Pero yo no haría nada sin saber el resultado del punto 1/, es de vital
importancia saber dónde apuntar (servidor X o kernel).

Saludos,



Hola

El fichero Xorg.0.log, ya esta subido, esta en la siguiente dirección: 
http://pastebin.com/embed_js.php?i=vSFgSGUL


Cuando tenga lo otro ya te diré.

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Re: Escritorio ligero

2012-06-04 Thread ambagasdowa

On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 07:39:07PM +0200, angelbat wrote:
 Alberto Benítez wrote:
 Hola he estado mirando leyendo y probando algún que otro escritorio ligero
 
 ¿Cual me recomiendan?
 
 Gracias y un saludo
 
 
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i3 improved tiling window manager 

No es un entorno de escritorio pero en compania de idesk casi... es lo
que uso ahora , y ya no me quedan ganas de volver a kde desde que empezo
la version 4 , Saludos


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Re: OT: combinaciones de teclas

2012-06-04 Thread Carlos Carcamo

El 4 de junio de 2012 07:18, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió:

 El Mon, 04 Jun 2012 00:06:56 -0600, Carlos Carcamo escribió:

  Me apena solicitar esto pero necesito un poco de su ayuda.
  Personalizando las combinaciones de tecla de mi equipo sucede que
  accidentalmente cambien un par de combinaciones que venían por defecto,
  el hecho es que no se que función tenían anteriormente, lo que necesito
  es volver a la configuración que tenían por defecto todas las
  combinaciones, pero no se como hacerlo ya que el asistente de
  combinación de teclas no tiene ningún menú donde diga algo parecido a
  volver al estado anterior.

 Crea un nuevo usuario, inicia sesión con él y compara/apunta las
 combinaciones de teclas para luego configurarlas en tu usuario habitual.

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Gracias por responder.
Al final termine por configurar el teclado a mi gusto, creo que hoy quedo
mucho mejor :)

una pregunta  con el comando que sugiere  jmramirez: dpkg-reconfigure
paquete
puedo volver a su configuración original a cualquier paquete que tenga
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Re: Re: Debian testing (Instalação)

Boas Debianos!

Galera primeiro quero agradecer a tod@s que ajudaram.

Ainda não tive exito mais continuo na tentativa, nessas idas e vindas me
veio a dúvida ... deixa eu explicar primeiro qual meu pc ...

Vamos lá!

Marca: ACER
Modelo: Aspire 5532-5146

O notebook é equipado com um processador AMD ATHLON TF-20 64 bits 1.6ghz,
2GB de memória RAM, 160GH de HD, uma tela LCD de 15,6″ HD 16:9 e uma
incrivel placa gráfica ATI Radeon HD3200, também conta com um leitor de
cartões, wireless, 2 entradas USB, DVD-RW, webcam, teclado numérico e placa
de som.
igualzinho ao do post neste blog:
http://informando.wordpress.com/2010/04/27/notebook-acer-aspire-5532-5146-aquisicao-e-comentarios/

Estou baixando a iso amd64 do testing.

quando a instalação segue tranquila ele não levanta o modo gráfico, porem
ja aconteceu de durante a instalação pedir o kernel. ai se escolho amd, da
erro bem no final.

Então o que fiz instalei o squeeze 64 bits, e tentei por Gnome3, dai deu
erro de compatibilidade de placa gráfica.

Agora a pergunta:

O adm64 ta ok, ou i386 se encontra em melhor desenvolvimento?


Grato! (desculpem algo errado)


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Re: Re: Debian testing (Instalação)

2012-06-04 Thread Fábio Rabelo

As imagens do Testing estavam com problemas nas duas últimas semanas !

Como elas sáo regeradas automaticamente nas segundas feiras, tente fazer um
novo download amanhã .

Mas eu diria para instalar um Squeeze e atualizar para o Wheezy, seria mais
demorado, porém mais garantido !

Fábio Rabelo

Em 4 de junho de 2012 10:41, Marcos Antonio Rufino do Egito
mareg...@gmail.com escreveu:

Boas Debianos!

Galera primeiro quero agradecer a tod@s que ajudaram.

Ainda não tive exito mais continuo na tentativa, nessas idas e vindas me
veio a dúvida ... deixa eu explicar primeiro qual meu pc ...

Vamos lá!

Marca: ACER
Modelo: Aspire 5532-5146

O notebook é equipado com um processador AMD ATHLON TF-20 64 bits 1.6ghz,
2GB de memória RAM, 160GH de HD, uma tela LCD de 15,6″ HD 16:9 e uma
incrivel placa gráfica ATI Radeon HD3200, também conta com um leitor de
cartões, wireless, 2 entradas USB, DVD-RW, webcam, teclado numérico e placa
de som.
igualzinho ao do post neste blog:

http://informando.wordpress.com/2010/04/27/notebook-acer-aspire-5532-5146-aquisicao-e-comentarios/

Estou baixando a iso amd64 do testing.

quando a instalação segue tranquila ele não levanta o modo gráfico, porem
ja aconteceu de durante a instalação pedir o kernel. ai se escolho amd, da
erro bem no final.

Então o que fiz instalei o squeeze 64 bits, e tentei por Gnome3, dai deu
erro de compatibilidade de placa gráfica.

Agora a pergunta:

O adm64 ta ok, ou i386 se encontra em melhor desenvolvimento?

Grato! (desculpem algo errado)

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RES: Re: Re: Debian testing (Instalação)

2012-06-04 Thread Jack Pogorelsky Jr.

Eu também não consegui instalar Wheezy essa semana.

Tenho o Squeeze numa partição principal e noutra eu coloco um sistema mais 
atualizado e menos estável. Estava com Arch Linux e fui trocar para Wheezy e 
deu erro.

Acabei colocando Ubuntu até que o Wheezy volte ao normal. Mas Ubuntu é bem mais 
lento que o Wheezy.

Decepcionante. Nessas oportunidades que amo mais o Debian.

Enviado do meu celular Nokia
-Msg original-
De: Fábio Rabelo
Enviado:  04/06/2012 11:04:17
Para: Marcos Antonio Rufino do Egito
Cc: debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org
Assunto:  Re: Re: Debian testing (Instalação)

As imagens do Testing estavam com problemas nas duas últimas semanas !

Como elas sáo regeradas automaticamente nas segundas feiras, tente fazer um
novo download amanhã .

Mas eu diria para instalar um Squeeze e atualizar para o Wheezy, seria mais
demorado, porém mais garantido !


Fábio Rabelo



Em 4 de junho de 2012 10:41, Marcos Antonio Rufino do Egito 
mareg...@gmail.com escreveu:

 Boas Debianos!

 Galera primeiro quero agradecer a tod@s que ajudaram.

 Ainda não tive exito mais continuo na tentativa, nessas idas e vindas me
 veio a dúvida ... deixa eu explicar primeiro qual meu pc ...

 Vamos lá!

 Marca: ACER
 Modelo: Aspire 5532-5146

 O notebook é equipado com um processador AMD ATHLON TF-20 64 bits 1.6ghz,
 2GB de memória RAM, 160GH de HD, uma tela LCD de 15,6″ HD 16:9 e uma
 incrivel placa gráfica ATI Radeon HD3200, também conta com um leitor de
 cartões, wireless, 2 entradas USB, DVD-RW, webcam, teclado numérico e placa
 de som.
 igualzinho ao do post neste blog:

 http://informando.wordpress.com/2010/04/27/notebook-acer-aspire-5532-5146-aquisicao-e-comentarios/

 Estou baixando a iso amd64 do testing.

 quando a instalação segue tranquila ele não levanta o modo gráfico, porem
 ja aconteceu de durante a instalação pedir o kernel. ai se escolho amd, da
 erro bem no final.

 Então o que fiz instalei o squeeze 64 bits, e tentei por Gnome3, dai deu
 erro de compatibilidade de placa gráfica.

 Agora a pergunta:

 O adm64 ta ok, ou i386 se encontra em melhor desenvolvimento?


 Grato! (desculpem algo errado)


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Re: Re: Debian testing (Instalação)

Então Fábio, instalo o squeeze, no sources.list ponho:

deb http://ftp.br.debian.org/debian  wheezy main

deb-src http://ftp.br.debian.org/debian wheezy maindeb
http://ftp.br.debian.org/debian wheezy-updates maindeb-src
http://ftp.br.debian.org/debian wheezy-updates maindeb
http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates maindeb-src
http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main

Depois só atualizar, um aptitude update, aptitude upgrade ...?

e ja rola tranquilo?

abraços!

Em 4 de junho de 2012 11:04, Fábio Rabelo fa...@fabiorabelo.wiki.brescreveu:

 As imagens do Testing estavam com problemas nas duas últimas semanas !

 Como elas sáo regeradas automaticamente nas segundas feiras, tente fazer
 um novo download amanhã .

 Mas eu diria para instalar um Squeeze e atualizar para o Wheezy, seria
 mais demorado, porém mais garantido !


 Fábio Rabelo



 Em 4 de junho de 2012 10:41, Marcos Antonio Rufino do Egito 
 mareg...@gmail.com escreveu:

 Boas Debianos!

 Galera primeiro quero agradecer a tod@s que ajudaram.

 Ainda não tive exito mais continuo na tentativa, nessas idas e vindas me
 veio a dúvida ... deixa eu explicar primeiro qual meu pc ...

 Vamos lá!

 Marca: ACER
 Modelo: Aspire 5532-5146

 O notebook é equipado com um processador AMD ATHLON TF-20 64 bits 1.6ghz,
 2GB de memória RAM, 160GH de HD, uma tela LCD de 15,6″ HD 16:9 e uma
 incrivel placa gráfica ATI Radeon HD3200, também conta com um leitor de
 cartões, wireless, 2 entradas USB, DVD-RW, webcam, teclado numérico e placa
 de som.
 igualzinho ao do post neste blog:

 http://informando.wordpress.com/2010/04/27/notebook-acer-aspire-5532-5146-aquisicao-e-comentarios/

 Estou baixando a iso amd64 do testing.

 quando a instalação segue tranquila ele não levanta o modo gráfico, porem
 ja aconteceu de durante a instalação pedir o kernel. ai se escolho amd, da
 erro bem no final.

 Então o que fiz instalei o squeeze 64 bits, e tentei por Gnome3, dai deu
 erro de compatibilidade de placa gráfica.

 Agora a pergunta:

 O adm64 ta ok, ou i386 se encontra em melhor desenvolvimento?


  Grato! (desculpem algo errado)


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 Sabedoria é não dizer nada, quando tudo que queremos é falar tudo,
 sabedoria é saber calar, para poder dizer mais com o silêncio!
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Sabedoria é não dizer nada, quando tudo que queremos é falar tudo,
sabedoria é saber calar, para poder dizer mais com o silêncio!
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Re: Re: Re: Debian testing (Instalação)

É isto que a galera não entende ...

valeu!

Em 4 de junho de 2012 11:37, Jack Pogorelsky Jr. cska1...@gmail.comescreveu:

Eu também não consegui instalar Wheezy essa semana.

Tenho o Squeeze numa partição principal e noutra eu coloco um sistema mais
atualizado e menos estável. Estava com Arch Linux e fui trocar para Wheezy
e deu erro.

Acabei colocando Ubuntu até que o Wheezy volte ao normal. Mas Ubuntu é bem
mais lento que o Wheezy.

Decepcionante. Nessas oportunidades que amo mais o Debian.

Enviado do meu celular Nokia
-Msg original-
De: Fábio Rabelo
Enviado: 04/06/2012 11:04:17
Para: Marcos Antonio Rufino do Egito
Cc: debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org
Assunto: Re: Re: Debian testing (Instalação)

As imagens do Testing estavam com problemas nas duas últimas semanas !

Como elas sáo regeradas automaticamente nas segundas feiras, tente fazer um
novo download amanhã .

Mas eu diria para instalar um Squeeze e atualizar para o Wheezy, seria mais
demorado, porém mais garantido !

Fábio Rabelo

Em 4 de junho de 2012 10:41, Marcos Antonio Rufino do Egito
mareg...@gmail.com escreveu:

Boas Debianos!

Galera primeiro quero agradecer a tod@s que ajudaram.

Ainda não tive exito mais continuo na tentativa, nessas idas e vindas me
veio a dúvida ... deixa eu explicar primeiro qual meu pc ...

Vamos lá!

Marca: ACER
Modelo: Aspire 5532-5146

http://informando.wordpress.com/2010/04/27/notebook-acer-aspire-5532-5146-aquisicao-e-comentarios/

Estou baixando a iso amd64 do testing.

quando a instalação segue tranquila ele não levanta o modo gráfico, porem
ja aconteceu de durante a instalação pedir o kernel. ai se escolho amd,
da
erro bem no final.

Então o que fiz instalei o squeeze 64 bits, e tentei por Gnome3, dai deu
erro de compatibilidade de placa gráfica.

Agora a pergunta:

O adm64 ta ok, ou i386 se encontra em melhor desenvolvimento?

Grato! (desculpem algo errado)

Sabedoria é não dizer nada, quando tudo que queremos é falar tudo,
sabedoria é saber calar, para poder dizer mais com o silêncio!
(Eu)

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Re: Re: Debian testing (Instalação)

2012-06-04 Thread Fábio Rabelo

Se este é o seu sources.list então acrescente o contrib e o non-free no
final de todas as suas linhas .


Fábio Rabelo


Em 4 de junho de 2012 11:39, Marcos Antonio Rufino do Egito 
mareg...@gmail.com escreveu:

 Então Fábio, instalo o squeeze, no sources.list ponho:

 deb http://ftp.br.debian.org/debian  wheezy main

 deb-src http://ftp.br.debian.org/debian wheezy maindeb 
 http://ftp.br.debian.org/debian wheezy-updates maindeb-src 
 http://ftp.br.debian.org/debian wheezy-updates maindeb 
 http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates maindeb-src 
 http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main

 Depois só atualizar, um aptitude update, aptitude upgrade ...?

 e ja rola tranquilo?

 abraços!

 Em 4 de junho de 2012 11:04, Fábio Rabelo fa...@fabiorabelo.wiki.brescreveu:

 As imagens do Testing estavam com problemas nas duas últimas semanas !


 Como elas sáo regeradas automaticamente nas segundas feiras, tente fazer
 um novo download amanhã .

 Mas eu diria para instalar um Squeeze e atualizar para o Wheezy, seria
 mais demorado, porém mais garantido !


 Fábio Rabelo



 Em 4 de junho de 2012 10:41, Marcos Antonio Rufino do Egito 
 mareg...@gmail.com escreveu:

 Boas Debianos!

 Galera primeiro quero agradecer a tod@s que ajudaram.

 Ainda não tive exito mais continuo na tentativa, nessas idas e vindas me
 veio a dúvida ... deixa eu explicar primeiro qual meu pc ...

 Vamos lá!

 Marca: ACER
 Modelo: Aspire 5532-5146

 O notebook é equipado com um processador AMD ATHLON TF-20 64 bits
 1.6ghz, 2GB de memória RAM, 160GH de HD, uma tela LCD de 15,6″ HD 16:9 e
 uma incrivel placa gráfica ATI Radeon HD3200, também conta com um leitor de
 cartões, wireless, 2 entradas USB, DVD-RW, webcam, teclado numérico e placa
 de som.
 igualzinho ao do post neste blog:

 http://informando.wordpress.com/2010/04/27/notebook-acer-aspire-5532-5146-aquisicao-e-comentarios/

 Estou baixando a iso amd64 do testing.

 quando a instalação segue tranquila ele não levanta o modo gráfico,
 porem ja aconteceu de durante a instalação pedir o kernel. ai se escolho
 amd, da erro bem no final.

 Então o que fiz instalei o squeeze 64 bits, e tentei por Gnome3, dai deu
 erro de compatibilidade de placa gráfica.

 Agora a pergunta:

 O adm64 ta ok, ou i386 se encontra em melhor desenvolvimento?


  Grato! (desculpem algo errado)


 --
 Marcos Egito
 GNU/Linux User #491326
 Fotos www.flickr.com/photos/maregito
 081-8762 - 4378 celular OI, 081-3456 - 9739 casa
 mareg...@gmail.com
 Skype maregito, MSN mareg...@oi.com.br, Gtalk mareg...@gmail.com

 Sabedoria é não dizer nada, quando tudo que queremos é falar tudo,
 sabedoria é saber calar, para poder dizer mais com o silêncio!
 (Eu)





 --
 Marcos Egito
 GNU/Linux User #491326
 Fotos www.flickr.com/photos/maregito
 081-8762 - 4378 celular OI, 081-3456 - 9739 casa
 mareg...@gmail.com
 Skype maregito, MSN mareg...@oi.com.br, Gtalk mareg...@gmail.com

 Sabedoria é não dizer nada, quando tudo que queremos é falar tudo,
 sabedoria é saber calar, para poder dizer mais com o silêncio!
 (Eu)

Re: Re: Debian testing (Instalação)

Este era o do squeeze que só troquei o nome por wheezy ...

Abraços!

Em 4 de junho de 2012 11:44, Fábio Rabelo fa...@fabiorabelo.wiki.brescreveu:

 Se este é o seu sources.list então acrescente o contrib e o non-free
 no final de todas as suas linhas .


 Fábio Rabelo


 Em 4 de junho de 2012 11:39, Marcos Antonio Rufino do Egito 
 mareg...@gmail.com escreveu:

 Então Fábio, instalo o squeeze, no sources.list ponho:

 deb http://ftp.br.debian.org/debian  wheezy main

 deb-src http://ftp.br.debian.org/debian wheezy maindeb 
 http://ftp.br.debian.org/debian wheezy-updates maindeb-src 
 http://ftp.br.debian.org/debian wheezy-updates maindeb 
 http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates maindeb-src 
 http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main

 Depois só atualizar, um aptitude update, aptitude upgrade ...?

 e ja rola tranquilo?

 abraços!

 Em 4 de junho de 2012 11:04, Fábio Rabelo 
 fa...@fabiorabelo.wiki.brescreveu:

 As imagens do Testing estavam com problemas nas duas últimas semanas !


 Como elas sáo regeradas automaticamente nas segundas feiras, tente fazer
 um novo download amanhã .

 Mas eu diria para instalar um Squeeze e atualizar para o Wheezy, seria
 mais demorado, porém mais garantido !


 Fábio Rabelo



 Em 4 de junho de 2012 10:41, Marcos Antonio Rufino do Egito 
 mareg...@gmail.com escreveu:

 Boas Debianos!

 Galera primeiro quero agradecer a tod@s que ajudaram.

 Ainda não tive exito mais continuo na tentativa, nessas idas e vindas
 me veio a dúvida ... deixa eu explicar primeiro qual meu pc ...

 Vamos lá!

 Marca: ACER
 Modelo: Aspire 5532-5146

 O notebook é equipado com um processador AMD ATHLON TF-20 64 bits
 1.6ghz, 2GB de memória RAM, 160GH de HD, uma tela LCD de 15,6″ HD 16:9 e
 uma incrivel placa gráfica ATI Radeon HD3200, também conta com um leitor de
 cartões, wireless, 2 entradas USB, DVD-RW, webcam, teclado numérico e placa
 de som.
 igualzinho ao do post neste blog:

 http://informando.wordpress.com/2010/04/27/notebook-acer-aspire-5532-5146-aquisicao-e-comentarios/

 Estou baixando a iso amd64 do testing.

 quando a instalação segue tranquila ele não levanta o modo gráfico,
 porem ja aconteceu de durante a instalação pedir o kernel. ai se escolho
 amd, da erro bem no final.

 Então o que fiz instalei o squeeze 64 bits, e tentei por Gnome3, dai
 deu erro de compatibilidade de placa gráfica.

 Agora a pergunta:

 O adm64 ta ok, ou i386 se encontra em melhor desenvolvimento?


  Grato! (desculpem algo errado)


 --
 Marcos Egito
 GNU/Linux User #491326
 Fotos www.flickr.com/photos/maregito
 081-8762 - 4378 celular OI, 081-3456 - 9739 casa
 mareg...@gmail.com
 Skype maregito, MSN mareg...@oi.com.br, Gtalk mareg...@gmail.com

 Sabedoria é não dizer nada, quando tudo que queremos é falar tudo,
 sabedoria é saber calar, para poder dizer mais com o silêncio!
 (Eu)





 --
 Marcos Egito
 GNU/Linux User #491326
 Fotos www.flickr.com/photos/maregito
 081-8762 - 4378 celular OI, 081-3456 - 9739 casa
 mareg...@gmail.com
 Skype maregito, MSN mareg...@oi.com.br, Gtalk mareg...@gmail.com

 Sabedoria é não dizer nada, quando tudo que queremos é falar tudo,
 sabedoria é saber calar, para poder dizer mais com o silêncio!
 (Eu)





-- 
Marcos Egito
GNU/Linux User #491326
Fotos www.flickr.com/photos/maregito
081-8762 - 4378 celular OI, 081-3456 - 9739 casa
mareg...@gmail.com
Skype maregito, MSN mareg...@oi.com.br, Gtalk mareg...@gmail.com

Sabedoria é não dizer nada, quando tudo que queremos é falar tudo,
sabedoria é saber calar, para poder dizer mais com o silêncio!
(Eu)

Re: Re: Debian testing (Instalação)

2012-06-04 Thread Fábio Rabelo

Então o Sr. provavelmente vinha enfrentando vários problemas relacionados a
módulos e codecs proprietários !

As linhas devem ficar assim :



deb http://ftp.br.debian.org/debian  wheezy main contrib non-free


Fábio Rabelo


Em 4 de junho de 2012 11:47, Marcos Antonio Rufino do Egito 
mareg...@gmail.com escreveu:

 Este era o do squeeze que só troquei o nome por wheezy ...

 Abraços!

 Em 4 de junho de 2012 11:44, Fábio Rabelo fa...@fabiorabelo.wiki.brescreveu:

 Se este é o seu sources.list então acrescente o contrib e o non-free
 no final de todas as suas linhas .


 Fábio Rabelo


 Em 4 de junho de 2012 11:39, Marcos Antonio Rufino do Egito 
 mareg...@gmail.com escreveu:

 Então Fábio, instalo o squeeze, no sources.list ponho:

 deb http://ftp.br.debian.org/debian  wheezy main

 deb-src http://ftp.br.debian.org/debian wheezy maindeb 
 http://ftp.br.debian.org/debian wheezy-updates maindeb-src 
 http://ftp.br.debian.org/debian wheezy-updates maindeb 
 http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates maindeb-src 
 http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main

 Depois só atualizar, um aptitude update, aptitude upgrade ...?

 e ja rola tranquilo?

 abraços!

 Em 4 de junho de 2012 11:04, Fábio Rabelo 
 fa...@fabiorabelo.wiki.brescreveu:

 As imagens do Testing estavam com problemas nas duas últimas semanas !


 Como elas sáo regeradas automaticamente nas segundas feiras, tente
 fazer um novo download amanhã .

 Mas eu diria para instalar um Squeeze e atualizar para o Wheezy, seria
 mais demorado, porém mais garantido !


 Fábio Rabelo



 Em 4 de junho de 2012 10:41, Marcos Antonio Rufino do Egito 
 mareg...@gmail.com escreveu:

 Boas Debianos!

 Galera primeiro quero agradecer a tod@s que ajudaram.

 Ainda não tive exito mais continuo na tentativa, nessas idas e vindas
 me veio a dúvida ... deixa eu explicar primeiro qual meu pc ...

 Vamos lá!

 Marca: ACER
 Modelo: Aspire 5532-5146

 O notebook é equipado com um processador AMD ATHLON TF-20 64 bits
 1.6ghz, 2GB de memória RAM, 160GH de HD, uma tela LCD de 15,6″ HD 16:9 e
 uma incrivel placa gráfica ATI Radeon HD3200, também conta com um leitor 
 de
 cartões, wireless, 2 entradas USB, DVD-RW, webcam, teclado numérico e 
 placa
 de som.
 igualzinho ao do post neste blog:

 http://informando.wordpress.com/2010/04/27/notebook-acer-aspire-5532-5146-aquisicao-e-comentarios/

 Estou baixando a iso amd64 do testing.

 quando a instalação segue tranquila ele não levanta o modo gráfico,
 porem ja aconteceu de durante a instalação pedir o kernel. ai se escolho
 amd, da erro bem no final.

 Então o que fiz instalei o squeeze 64 bits, e tentei por Gnome3, dai
 deu erro de compatibilidade de placa gráfica.

 Agora a pergunta:

 O adm64 ta ok, ou i386 se encontra em melhor desenvolvimento?


  Grato! (desculpem algo errado)


 --
 Marcos Egito
 GNU/Linux User #491326
 Fotos www.flickr.com/photos/maregito
 081-8762 - 4378 celular OI, 081-3456 - 9739 casa
 mareg...@gmail.com
 Skype maregito, MSN mareg...@oi.com.br, Gtalk mareg...@gmail.com

 Sabedoria é não dizer nada, quando tudo que queremos é falar tudo,
 sabedoria é saber calar, para poder dizer mais com o silêncio!
 (Eu)





 --
 Marcos Egito
 GNU/Linux User #491326
 Fotos www.flickr.com/photos/maregito
 081-8762 - 4378 celular OI, 081-3456 - 9739 casa
 mareg...@gmail.com
 Skype maregito, MSN mareg...@oi.com.br, Gtalk mareg...@gmail.com

 Sabedoria é não dizer nada, quando tudo que queremos é falar tudo,
 sabedoria é saber calar, para poder dizer mais com o silêncio!
 (Eu)





 --
 Marcos Egito
 GNU/Linux User #491326
 Fotos www.flickr.com/photos/maregito
 081-8762 - 4378 celular OI, 081-3456 - 9739 casa
 mareg...@gmail.com
 Skype maregito, MSN mareg...@oi.com.br, Gtalk mareg...@gmail.com

 Sabedoria é não dizer nada, quando tudo que queremos é falar tudo,
 sabedoria é saber calar, para poder dizer mais com o silêncio!
 (Eu)

Re: Remoção do gnome ao tentar remover um programa.

2012-06-04 Thread China

Se eu tivese tempo, lançaria um fork do Debian chamado the very
honest debian, onde os developers seriam proibidos de colocar pacotes
inuteis como dependencia do sistema.

O que faz essa zona toda é a entrada no config do pacote que diz quais
são as dependencias dele. Existem depsndencias que são de sistema,
como bibliotecas, e existem aquelas que o empacotador acha que você
vai precisar. O aptitude lê e trata essas dependencias e ajusta
conforme quer o empacotador, logo se você remover um pacote no dente
você quebra o sistema de dependencias e o aptitude voltará com a
instalação deste pacote, ou removerá os que dependem dele, da próxima
vez que for acionado.

EU peno com isso para remover coisas que não uso, como chaveiro,
evolution, e outras tranqueiras que ficam assombrando o desktop.
Ultimamente, numa atitude desesperada, abandonei kde/gnome e e estou
utilizando o xfce4 só com o que preciso. Mas de vez em quando eu quero
usar um programa do gnome e ele puxa uma série de tranqueiras que não
quero, daí eu procuro um similar no sourceforge ou freshmeat e compilo
eu mesmo, ou até compilo o próprio pacote que quero do gnome mas
editando o config dele eliminando as famigeradas dependencias, que
nunca foram dependencias!

Enfim, aos que estão penando com isso, não tem jeito, estamos sob uma ditadura.

Em 3 de junho de 2012 17:18, Cleber Ianes cleberia...@yahoo.com.br escreveu:
 Agora é que tudo complicou... rsrsrs
 No meu desk de casa e na maquina virtual recém instalada, quando mando
 remover o gimp ele NÃO pede pra remover o gnome.
 No desk do trabalho e em um servidor de terminais que que tentei fazer isso
 ele, SIM, pede pra remover o gnome.
 O detalhe é que a base para todos esses sistemas é a mesma.




 Em 01-06-2012 20:06, Rodolfo escreveu:

 Cleber, eu testei aqui no meu notebook.


 apt-get remove totem e ele disse que iria remover o gnome-core e o totem.

 Usei o comando dpkg --force-all -P totem, e ele só removeu o totem.

 Tu tem que testar ai, acho que da certo, so que é melhor tu criar uma imagem
 desse teu sistema, por em outro PC e testar.


 Abraços.



 Em 31 de maio de 2012 16:07, Cleber Ianes cleberia...@yahoo.com.br
 escreveu:

 Só uma dúvida a respeitdo disso
 Pra onde eu mando meu currículo se isso der errado no computador do
 chefe?? rsrsrsrs

 
 De: Rodolfo rof20...@gmail.com
 Para: Cleber Ianes cleberia...@yahoo.com.br
 Cc: debian-user-portuguese debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org
 Enviadas: Quinta-feira, 31 de Maio de 2012 15:58

 Assunto: Re: Remoção do gnome ao tentar remover um programa.

 Tava procurando o manpages do DPKG aqui no trampo, aqui nao uso linux,
 achei um traduzido pra te ajudar, tem a opção --force-all : Liga (ou
 desliga) todas as opções de força.

 so tome cuidado, ja to com medo, hehehehe


 Segue o link pra te ajudar na remoção:

 http://man.cx/dpkg(8)/pt


 Abraços.

 Em 31 de maio de 2012 14:53, Rodolfo rof20...@gmail.com escreveu:

 Não tem 1 parametro do dpkg que força a remoção ?


 Tenta assim e ve se ajuda:

 dpkg --force-depends -r PACOTE


 Abraços.

 Em 31 de maio de 2012 12:13, Cleber Ianes cleberia...@yahoo.com.br
 escreveu:

 Bem pensado, rsrs, tentativa feita
 Olha o resultado:
 dpkg: problemas de dependência impedem a remoção de gimp:
 gnome depende de gimp (= 2.6).
 dpkg: erro processando gimp (--remove):
 problemas de dependência - não removendo
 Erros foram encontrados durante o processamento de:
  gimp

 Também não deu!!!

 
 De: Rodolfo rof20...@gmail.com
 Para: Ednardo Lobo edna...@lobo.eti.br
 Cc: debian-user-portuguese debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org
 Enviadas: Quinta-feira, 31 de Maio de 2012 11:21
 Assunto: Re: Remoção do gnome ao tentar remover um programa.

 Eu nunca fiz esse teste, mas será que com o dpkg ele não remove só o Gimp
 ?


 Abraços.

 Em 31 de maio de 2012 09:56, Ednardo Lobo edna...@lobo.eti.br escreveu:

 Em 31-05-2012 09:26, Cleber Ianes escreveu:

 aptitude remove gimp


 Qual Debian está usando?

 Uso aqui o 6.0.5 squeeze e se tento remover o pacote gimp, apenas os
 seguintes adicionais pacotes são removidos automaticamente:

 gimp-data
 libbabl-0.0-0
 libgegl-0.0-0
 libgimp2.0
 libmng1
 libopenraw1

 A experiência que tenho com o Debian tem me mostrado que o gerenciamento
 de dependências é muito inteligente e eficiente. Porém, certas dependências
 as vezes podem parecer insensatas, talvez por não depender de escolhas do
 mantenedor do pacote, mas do desenvolvedor do software.

 Por exemplo, em meu Debian, o pacote gnome depende do pacote evolution
 apesar do inverso parecer ser mais óbvio. Porém, pelo que pude compreender
 há algumas funcionalidades no gnome que utilizam bibliotecas do Evolution,
 por isto a necessidade desta amarração. O efeito colateral, é que apesar de
 não usar o Evolution, não posso removê-lo de meu sistema.

 Talvez em futuras versões isso seja aperfeiçoado.

 --
    Ednardo Lobo

Re: Remoção do gnome ao tentar remover um programa.

2012-06-04 Thread Cleber Ianes

Vou fazer um comentário que talvez não adicione nenhum conhecimento à lista...

Uso Debian desde 2009 e o que me fez optar por ele, quando queria sair do 
Slackware depois de 13 anos com ele, foi justamente o sistema de pacotes e a 
disponibilidade de programas já empacotados. Mas o sistema de pacotes tem me 
dado mita dor de cabeça e isso me faz pensar em avaliar outras distros 
novamente. Infelizmente não tenho conhecimento nem tempo suficiente para tentar 
mudar alguma coisa ou auxiliar...




 De: China china.lis...@gmail.com
Para: Cleber Ianes cleberia...@yahoo.com.br 
Cc: Rodolfo rof20...@gmail.com; debian-user-portuguese 
debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org 
Enviadas: Segunda-feira, 4 de Junho de 2012 12:17
Assunto: Re: Remoção do gnome ao tentar remover um programa.
 
Se eu tivese tempo, lançaria um fork do Debian chamado the very
honest debian, onde os developers seriam proibidos de colocar pacotes
inuteis como dependencia do sistema.

O que faz essa zona toda é a entrada no config do pacote que diz quais
são as dependencias dele. Existem depsndencias que são de sistema,
como bibliotecas, e existem aquelas que o empacotador acha que você
vai precisar. O aptitude lê e trata essas dependencias e ajusta
conforme quer o empacotador, logo se você remover um pacote no dente
você quebra o sistema de dependencias e o aptitude voltará com a
instalação deste pacote, ou removerá os que dependem dele, da próxima
vez que for acionado.

EU peno com isso para remover coisas que não uso, como chaveiro,
evolution, e outras tranqueiras que ficam assombrando o desktop.
Ultimamente, numa atitude desesperada, abandonei kde/gnome e e estou
utilizando o xfce4 só com o que preciso. Mas de vez em quando eu quero
usar um programa do gnome e ele puxa uma série de tranqueiras que não
quero, daí eu procuro um similar no sourceforge ou freshmeat e compilo
eu mesmo, ou até compilo o próprio pacote que quero do gnome mas
editando o config dele eliminando as famigeradas dependencias, que
nunca foram dependencias!

Enfim, aos que estão penando com isso, não tem jeito, estamos sob uma ditadura.

Em 3 de junho de 2012 17:18, Cleber Ianes cleberia...@yahoo.com.br escreveu:
 Agora é que tudo complicou... rsrsrs
 No meu desk de casa e na maquina virtual recém instalada, quando mando
 remover o gimp ele NÃO pede pra remover o gnome.
 No desk do trabalho e em um servidor de terminais que que tentei fazer isso
 ele, SIM, pede pra remover o gnome.
 O detalhe é que a base para todos esses sistemas é a mesma.




 Em 01-06-2012 20:06, Rodolfo escreveu:

 Cleber, eu testei aqui no meu notebook.


 apt-get remove totem e ele disse que iria remover o gnome-core e o totem.

 Usei o comando dpkg --force-all -P totem, e ele só removeu o totem.

 Tu tem que testar ai, acho que da certo, so que é melhor tu criar uma imagem
 desse teu sistema, por em outro PC e testar.


 Abraços.



 Em 31 de maio de 2012 16:07, Cleber Ianes cleberia...@yahoo.com.br
 escreveu:

 Só uma dúvida a respeitdo disso
 Pra onde eu mando meu currículo se isso der errado no computador do
 chefe?? rsrsrsrs

 
 De: Rodolfo rof20...@gmail.com
 Para: Cleber Ianes cleberia...@yahoo.com.br
 Cc: debian-user-portuguese debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org
 Enviadas: Quinta-feira, 31 de Maio de 2012 15:58

 Assunto: Re: Remoção do gnome ao tentar remover um programa.

 Tava procurando o manpages do DPKG aqui no trampo, aqui nao uso linux,
 achei um traduzido pra te ajudar, tem a opção --force-all : Liga (ou
 desliga) todas as opções de força.

 so tome cuidado, ja to com medo, hehehehe


 Segue o link pra te ajudar na remoção:

 http://man.cx/dpkg(8)/pt


 Abraços.

 Em 31 de maio de 2012 14:53, Rodolfo rof20...@gmail.com escreveu:

 Não tem 1 parametro do dpkg que força a remoção ?


 Tenta assim e ve se ajuda:

 dpkg --force-depends -r PACOTE


 Abraços.

 Em 31 de maio de 2012 12:13, Cleber Ianes cleberia...@yahoo.com.br
 escreveu:

 Bem pensado, rsrs, tentativa feita
 Olha o resultado:
 dpkg: problemas de dependência impedem a remoção de gimp:
 gnome depende de gimp (= 2.6).
 dpkg: erro processando gimp (--remove):
 problemas de dependência - não removendo
 Erros foram encontrados durante o processamento de:
  gimp

 Também não deu!!!

 
 De: Rodolfo rof20...@gmail.com
 Para: Ednardo Lobo edna...@lobo.eti.br
 Cc: debian-user-portuguese debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org
 Enviadas: Quinta-feira, 31 de Maio de 2012 11:21
 Assunto: Re: Remoção do gnome ao tentar remover um programa.

 Eu nunca fiz esse teste, mas será que com o dpkg ele não remove só o Gimp
 ?


 Abraços.

 Em 31 de maio de 2012 09:56, Ednardo Lobo edna...@lobo.eti.br escreveu:

 Em 31-05-2012 09:26, Cleber Ianes escreveu:

 aptitude remove gimp


 Qual Debian está usando?

 Uso aqui o 6.0.5 squeeze e se tento remover o pacote gimp, apenas os
 seguintes adicionais pacotes são removidos

/etc sumiu - como recuperar

2012-06-04 Thread Marcus Vinícius Liberani

Srs. boa tarde!
Um amigo me pediu uma ajuda, está em um cliente e disse que dois micros com 
Ubuntu 10 e 11 perderam toda a partição /etc.
O que pode ser? como recuperar?
Alguém pode me ajudar?
Att. Marcus

Re: Remoção do gnome ao tentar remover um programa.

2012-06-04 Thread Rodolfo

Eu uso o blackbox.

Em 4 de junho de 2012 12:10, Cleber Ianes cleberia...@yahoo.com.brescreveu:

 Vou fazer um comentário que talvez não adicione nenhum conhecimento à
 lista...
 Uso Debian desde 2009 e o que me fez optar por ele, quando queria sair do
 Slackware depois de 13 anos com ele, foi justamente o sistema de pacotes e
 a disponibilidade de programas já empacotados. Mas o sistema de pacotes tem
 me dado mita dor de cabeça e isso me faz pensar em avaliar outras
 distros novamente. Infelizmente não tenho conhecimento nem tempo suficiente
 para tentar mudar alguma coisa ou auxiliar...

   --
 *De:* China china.lis...@gmail.com
 *Para:* Cleber Ianes cleberia...@yahoo.com.br
 *Cc:* Rodolfo rof20...@gmail.com; debian-user-portuguese 
 debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org
 *Enviadas:* Segunda-feira, 4 de Junho de 2012 12:17

 *Assunto:* Re: Remoção do gnome ao tentar remover um programa.

 Se eu tivese tempo, lançaria um fork do Debian chamado the very
 honest debian, onde os developers seriam proibidos de colocar pacotes
 inuteis como dependencia do sistema.

 O que faz essa zona toda é a entrada no config do pacote que diz quais
 são as dependencias dele. Existem depsndencias que são de sistema,
 como bibliotecas, e existem aquelas que o empacotador acha que você
 vai precisar. O aptitude lê e trata essas dependencias e ajusta
 conforme quer o empacotador, logo se você remover um pacote no dente
 você quebra o sistema de dependencias e o aptitude voltará com a
 instalação deste pacote, ou removerá os que dependem dele, da próxima
 vez que for acionado.

 EU peno com isso para remover coisas que não uso, como chaveiro,
 evolution, e outras tranqueiras que ficam assombrando o desktop.
 Ultimamente, numa atitude desesperada, abandonei kde/gnome e e estou
 utilizando o xfce4 só com o que preciso. Mas de vez em quando eu quero
 usar um programa do gnome e ele puxa uma série de tranqueiras que não
 quero, daí eu procuro um similar no sourceforge ou freshmeat e compilo
 eu mesmo, ou até compilo o próprio pacote que quero do gnome mas
 editando o config dele eliminando as famigeradas dependencias, que
 nunca foram dependencias!

 Enfim, aos que estão penando com isso, não tem jeito, estamos sob uma
 ditadura.

 Em 3 de junho de 2012 17:18, Cleber Ianes cleberia...@yahoo.com.br
 escreveu:
  Agora é que tudo complicou... rsrsrs
  No meu desk de casa e na maquina virtual recém instalada, quando mando
  remover o gimp ele NÃO pede pra remover o gnome.
  No desk do trabalho e em um servidor de terminais que que tentei fazer
 isso
  ele, SIM, pede pra remover o gnome.
  O detalhe é que a base para todos esses sistemas é a mesma.
 
 
 
 
  Em 01-06-2012 20:06, Rodolfo escreveu:
 
  Cleber, eu testei aqui no meu notebook.
 
 
  apt-get remove totem e ele disse que iria remover o gnome-core e o totem.
 
  Usei o comando dpkg --force-all -P totem, e ele só removeu o totem.
 
  Tu tem que testar ai, acho que da certo, so que é melhor tu criar uma
 imagem
  desse teu sistema, por em outro PC e testar.
 
 
  Abraços.
 
 
 
  Em 31 de maio de 2012 16:07, Cleber Ianes cleberia...@yahoo.com.br
  escreveu:
 
  Só uma dúvida a respeitdo disso
  Pra onde eu mando meu currículo se isso der errado no computador do
  chefe?? rsrsrsrs
 
  
  De: Rodolfo rof20...@gmail.com
  Para: Cleber Ianes cleberia...@yahoo.com.br
  Cc: debian-user-portuguese debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org
  Enviadas: Quinta-feira, 31 de Maio de 2012 15:58
 
  Assunto: Re: Remoção do gnome ao tentar remover um programa.
 
  Tava procurando o manpages do DPKG aqui no trampo, aqui nao uso linux,
  achei um traduzido pra te ajudar, tem a opção --force-all : Liga (ou
  desliga) todas as opções de força.
 
  so tome cuidado, ja to com medo, hehehehe
 
 
  Segue o link pra te ajudar na remoção:
 
  http://man.cx/dpkg(8)/pt
 
 
  Abraços.
 
  Em 31 de maio de 2012 14:53, Rodolfo rof20...@gmail.com escreveu:
 
  Não tem 1 parametro do dpkg que força a remoção ?
 
 
  Tenta assim e ve se ajuda:
 
  dpkg --force-depends -r PACOTE
 
 
  Abraços.
 
  Em 31 de maio de 2012 12:13, Cleber Ianes cleberia...@yahoo.com.br
  escreveu:
 
  Bem pensado, rsrs, tentativa feita
  Olha o resultado:
  dpkg: problemas de dependência impedem a remoção de gimp:
  gnome depende de gimp (= 2.6).
  dpkg: erro processando gimp (--remove):
  problemas de dependência - não removendo
  Erros foram encontrados durante o processamento de:
   gimp
 
  Também não deu!!!
 
  
  De: Rodolfo rof20...@gmail.com
  Para: Ednardo Lobo edna...@lobo.eti.br
  Cc: debian-user-portuguese debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org
  Enviadas: Quinta-feira, 31 de Maio de 2012 11:21
  Assunto: Re: Remoção do gnome ao tentar remover um programa.
 
  Eu nunca fiz esse teste, mas será que com o dpkg ele não remove só o
 Gimp
  ?
 
 
  Abraços.
 
  Em 31 de maio de 2012 09:56, Ednardo Lobo

Re: /etc sumiu - como recuperar

2012-06-04 Thread Rodolfo

como root digita updatedb

depois na raiz /, digite ls -a e veja se aparece o /etc, alguem pode ter
post um . na frente, tornando-a oculto, se não aparecer, digite locate
etc | less e procure pela pasta, vai que alguem moveu para outro lugar,
nunca se sabe. Espero que seja só isso hehehe.


Abraços.

Em 4 de junho de 2012 12:43, Marcus Vinícius Liberani 
marcusliber...@yahoo.com.br escreveu:

 Srs. boa tarde!
 Um amigo me pediu uma ajuda, está em um cliente e disse que dois micros
 com Ubuntu 10 e 11 perderam toda a partição /etc.
 O que pode ser? como recuperar?
 Alguém pode me ajudar?
 Att. Marcus

[OFF] placa virtual Tun nao sobe -

2012-06-04 Thread Marcus Vinícius Liberani

Pessoal, tentando concertar o erro do /etc tivemos de refazer a máquina 
contudo, tentando criar uma openvpn a placa virtual Tun nao sobe e nem aparece 
no ifconfig. Alguém tem alguma idéia ( a distro é Ubuntu 12.3)
Valeu e obrigado pela força!

Nautilus sağ tıklama (İçerik Menüsü) problemi

2012-06-04 Thread Engin YILMAZ

Merhaba, Testing ile Nautilus ve Gnome kullanıyorum. Masa üstü veya dosya 
tarayıcısında her hangi bir alana veya öğeye sağ tıkladığımda açılması beklenen 
içerik menüsü imlecin hemen altında belirince o an konum itibari ile hangi 
komutun üzerine denk gelir ise farenin sağ düğmesinden parmağımı kaldırdığım an 
çalışıyor. Örnek vermek gerekirse bir klasör dolusu öğeyi taşımak üzere 
seçmiştim sağ tıklayınca Aç komutu belirdi parmağımı kaldırınca da  pek çok 
dosya aynı anda açılmaya başladı. Bu şekilde kullanışsız hale gelmiş durumda.

IceWm ile de sağ menüyle ilgili biraz daha farklı bir problem yaşıyordum. Gnome 
'ye geçiş yapınca bu sefer daha farklı bir problem karşıma çıktı. 
 
Saygılar, Engin YILMAZ



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Re: what did hwinfo do to my machine?

2012-06-04 Thread Stan Hoeppner

On 6/3/2012 11:05 PM, Dan B. wrote:
 After I ran hwinfo (to detect a modem), my machine runs very slowly at
 the beginning of booting.

You did something else also.  The hwinfo manpage says nothing about
running at boot, so I assume it has nothing to do with this.

Something is running at boot that wasn't before, and is slowing down the
boot process.  Look at your dmesg output and your grub command line to
see what it may be.

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Re: EEE-PC (900HD) + NetInst

On Mon 04 Jun 2012 at 02:25:11 +0200, Adnan RIHAN wrote:

 I'm here about Debian (Squeeze) on Asus-EEE.  I was the post on the
 website, which says that some EEE are not supported, and mine don't
 seems to be on any list (900HD).
 
 I think I have a rtl8180 as WiFi component (dmesg | grep wireless),
 and this driver seems to be supported on many distributions (debian
 based) but not on the netinstall iso.

The rtl8180 module has been in the kernel for a number of years so it
should be on a Squeeze netinst.iso. You do not have to supply firmware
for it. Please see

   http://wiki.debian.org/rtl818x

The installation only uses WEP, however. If WPA is more convenient for
you you will need an iso from the iso-cd section at

   http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/wheezy_di_alpha1/

For a Squeeze install it is the businesscard.iso you should download.

To put the iso on a USB device there is section 4.3.1. at

   http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s03.html.en

   


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Fwd: Re: Setting up the scanner

2012-06-04 Thread steef

 ---BeginMessage---

Camaleón wrote:

On Sun, 03 Jun 2012 21:34:04 +0200, steef wrote:


Camaleón wrote:

On Fri, 01 Jun 2012 23:19:11 +0200, steef wrote:


..

further: the udev structure in the mint os is quite different from the
udev structure in squeeze.


(...)

But you don't have to follow the instructions word by word but
understanding what the problem can be and adapt the same idea to your
Squeeze system.



...of course. you are right. i did that but it did not yet work out




...


ATTRS{idVendor}==04a9, ATTRS{idProduct}==171b, MODE=0664, GROUP=scanner, 
ENV{libsane_matched}=yes
# Canon PIXMA MX7600
ATTRS{idVendor}==04a9, ATTRS{idProduct}==171c, MODE=0664, GROUP=scanner, 
ENV{libsane_matched}=yes
# Canon PIXMA MP210
ATTRS{idVendor}==04a9, ATTRS{idProduct}==1721, MODE=0664, GROUP=scanner, 
ENV{libsane_matched}=yes



# Canon PIXMA MP280
ATTRS{idVendor}==04a9, ATTRS{idProduct}==1746, MODE=0666, GROUP=scanner, 
ENV{libsane_matched}=yes



# Canon PIXMA MP470
ATTRS{idVendor}==04a9, ATTRS{idProduct}==1723, MODE=0664, GROUP=scanner, 
ENV{libsane_matched}=yes
# Canon PIXMA MP520
ATTRS{idVendor}==04a9, ATTRS{idProduct}==1724, MODE=0664, GROUP=scanner, 
ENV{libsane_matched}=yes
# Canon PIXMA MP610


well... i put the MP280 line in the /lib/udev/rules.d/60-.../   yet the 
machine did not appear in xsane. what did i do wrong? (that is what i meant by 
'it did not work out well')


(i looked further gain into /var/log/dmesg. dmesg tells me the canon is 
recognized).


cheers,

steef


---End Message---

Re: Setting up the scanner

2012-06-04 Thread steef


Camaleón wrote:
 On Sun, 03 Jun 2012 21:34:04 +0200, steef wrote:

 Camaleón wrote:
 On Fri, 01 Jun 2012 23:19:11 +0200, steef wrote:


...

 ATTRS{idVendor}==04a9, ATTRS{idProduct}==171b, MODE=0664, 
GROUP=scanner, ENV{libsane_matched}=yes

 # Canon PIXMA MX7600
 ATTRS{idVendor}==04a9, ATTRS{idProduct}==171c, MODE=0664, 
GROUP=scanner, ENV{libsane_matched}=yes

 # Canon PIXMA MP210
 ATTRS{idVendor}==04a9, ATTRS{idProduct}==1721, MODE=0664, 
GROUP=scanner, ENV{libsane_matched}=yes


 # Canon PIXMA MP280
 ATTRS{idVendor}==04a9, ATTRS{idProduct}==1746, MODE=0666, 
GROUP=scanner, ENV{libsane_matched}=yes


 # Canon PIXMA MP470
 ATTRS{idVendor}==04a9, ATTRS{idProduct}==1723, MODE=0664, 
GROUP=scanner, ENV{libsane_matched}=yes

 # Canon PIXMA MP520
 ATTRS{idVendor}==04a9, ATTRS{idProduct}==1724, MODE=0664, 
GROUP=scanner, ENV{libsane_matched}=yes

 # Canon PIXMA MP610

well... i put the MP280 line in the /lib/udev/rules.d/60-.../   yet the 
machine did not appear in xsane. what did i do wrong? (that is what i meant by 
'it did not work out well')


(i looked further gain into /var/log/dmesg. dmesg tells me the canon is 
recognized).


cheers,

steef


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Re: EEE-PC (900HD) + NetInst

 On Mon 04 Jun 2012 at 02:25:11 +0200, Adnan RIHAN wrote:
  
  I'm here about Debian (Squeeze) on Asus-EEE. I was the post on the
  website, which says that some EEE are not supported, and mine don't
  seems to be on any list (900HD).
   
  I think I have a rtl8180 as WiFi component (dmesg | grep wireless),
  and this driver seems to be supported on many distributions (debian
  based) but not on the netinstall iso.
   
  
  
 The rtl8180 module has been in the kernel for a number of years so it
 should be on a Squeeze netinst.iso. You do not have to supply firmware
 for it. Please see
  
 http://wiki.debian.org/rtl818x
Oh ok... I've tried to install debian 6.0.5 with a friend's computer as router, 
sharing wifi connection on ethernet.
I'm confirming the module with:

 dmesg | grep Wireless
 [2.514297] r8180: Wireless extensions version 22

But actually, when I run debian-6.0.5-i386-netinst.iso written on a USB stick 
(expert install), and when I select configure the network, it only shows me 
the DHCP check and a IP address prompt. I know that when there is 2 
interfaces detected (Ethernet + Wireless), it asks you which one to configure 
and if it's WiFi, it asks the Access-Point name and the IP addresses.


So do you know what can be my issue? Or how to find my issue (strange question) 
please?

Thank you for your help.
--  
Cordialement, Adnan RIHAN.
Président-Fondateur de l'association (de loi 1901) Virtual-Info 
(http://www.virtual-info.info/), hébergeur Web et Serveurs de Jeux.
Consultant (http://rihan.fr/)-Technicien Supérieur en Informatique de Gestion.
Ambassadeur Qt (http://lyt.me/7E) (Projet Tag-PG 
(http://rihan.fr/fr/projets/tagpg)).

Re: EEE-PC (900HD) + NetInst

On Mon 04 Jun 2012 at 11:38:34 +0200, Adnan RIHAN wrote:

 Oh ok... I've tried to install debian 6.0.5 with a friend's computer
 as router, sharing wifi connection on ethernet.  I'm confirming the
 module with:
 
  dmesg | grep Wireless
  [2.514297] r8180: Wireless extensions version 22
 
 But actually, when I run debian-6.0.5-i386-netinst.iso written on a
 USB stick (expert install), and when I select configure the network,
 it only shows me the DHCP check and a IP address prompt. I know that
 when there is 2 interfaces detected (Ethernet + Wireless), it asks you
 which one to configure and if it's WiFi, it asks the Access-Point name
 and the IP addresses.

That is correct. There is only one interface on the machine so d-i goes
straight to configuring it. Have you progressed beyond that point?


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MySQL stored procedure slow with recent Wheezy upgrade

2012-06-04 Thread Daniel Kraft

Hi,

I'm running Wheezy, and a recent update to MySQL made a database
application much, much slower.  The query performed is a stored
procedure containing some loops, which before (at least on 24th May)
took less than one second, and now (today) more than four minutes.  I
didn't change either the code nor the data.

Do you have any ideas what caused this performance regression, is this
something known already?  Are there ways how I can get the old behaviour
back, or do I have to wait for some further update sometime in the future?

Thanks!  Yours,
Daniel

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Debian disables IRQ, video performance goes down

2012-06-04 Thread Soare Catalin

Hi everyone,

I have been experiencing an issue ever since I started using Debian (weird
enough, never had this with Ubuntu):

With Debian Squeeze and now, with Wheezy after a while of running the
system I get a short beep from my internal speaker. If I happen to have a
terminal window open, I get the following warnings:
Message from syslogd@crysPC at [date and time]
 kernel: [ 910.692097] Disabling IRQ #17

Message from syslogd@crysPC at [date and time]
 kernel: [ 1328.168823] Disabling IRQ #16

dmesg explains a little bit:

[  910.691991] irq 17: nobody cared (try booting with the irqpoll option)
[...] snipped [...]
[  910.692097] Disabling IRQ #17
[ 1328.168705] irq 16: nobody cared (try booting with the irqpoll option)
[...] snipped [...]
[ 1328.168823] Disabling IRQ #16

In /proc/interrupts, I can see:

16: 200304  0  0  0  0  0
   0  0   IO-APIC-fasteoi   nouveau, eth0
17: 23  0  0  0  0  0
   0  0   IO-APIC-fasteoi   firewire_ohci, snd_hda_intel


Everytime this happens, video performance dies (If I have compiz enabled
this used to make all animations very slow and poor performance, and now,
with Gnome3, animations are also very slow). Also, typing appears to have
some weird lag (USB keyboard).

Unfortunately, this is as far as my hardware/Linux knowledge goes -- I
really have no idea what is happening, or how to try and troubleshoot this.

Could anyone please help, if you have any suggestions as to what I could
try to fix this?

Thank you in advance!

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Fw: EEE-PC (900HD) + NetInst


  Oh ok... I've tried to install debian 6.0.5 with a friend's computer
  as router, sharing wifi connection on ethernet. I'm confirming the
  module with:
   
   dmesg | grep Wireless
   [ 2.514297] r8180: Wireless extensions version 22
  But actually, when I run debian-6.0.5-i386-netinst.iso written on a
  USB stick (expert install), and when I select configure the network,
  it only shows me the DHCP check and a IP address prompt. I know that
  when there is 2 interfaces detected (Ethernet + Wireless), it asks you
  which one to configure and if it's WiFi, it asks the Access-Point name
  and the IP addresses.
 That is correct. There is only one interface on the machine so d-i goes
 straight to configuring it. Have you progressed beyond that point? Actually, 
 I have some news.
I've restarted d-i, it's still configuring ONLY eth0, so I can't go further.

But, I've started a rescue shell and tried:
 lspci -nn
 01:00.0 Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8187SE 
 Wireless LAN Controller (rev 22)
 03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications AR8121/AR8113/AR8114 
 Gigabit or Fast Ethernet (rev b0)
So... Both of my interfaces are detected. But when I start the network 
configuration, it configures eth0, without asking me to choose between the 2 
network cards.

Normal behavior ?
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Le lundi 4 juin 2012 à 12:10, Brian a écrit :
 On Mon 04 Jun 2012 at 11:38:34 +0200, Adnan RIHAN wrote:
  
  Oh ok... I've tried to install debian 6.0.5 with a friend's computeras 
  router, sharing wifi connection on ethernet. I'm confirming themodule with:
   
  dmesg | grep Wireless
   [ 2.514297] r8180: Wireless extensions version 22


   
   
  But actually, when I run debian-6.0.5-i386-netinst.iso written on aUSB 
  stick (expert install), and when I select configure the network,it only 
  shows me the DHCP check and a IP address prompt. I know thatwhen there is 
  2 interfaces detected (Ethernet + Wireless), it asks youwhich one to 
  configure and if it's WiFi, it asks the Access-Point name
  and the IP addresses.
   
   
   
   
  
  
 That is correct. There is only one interface on the machine so d-i goes
 straight to configuring it. Have you progressed beyond that point?
  
  
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Re: what did hwinfo do to my machine?

2012-06-04 Thread Kent West


On 06/03/2012 11:05 PM, Dan B. wrote:

After I ran hwinfo (to detect a modem), my machine runs very slowly at
the beginning of booting.

(GRUB takes about 8 seconds between displaying the the Welcome to GRUB!
text and the error: fd0 read error. text, and another 25 seconds for
the screen to go blank on the way to displaying the menu.

Kernel booting might be slow for the first dozen or so messages; after
that, everything seems to be fine.)

What the heck did hwinfo do to my machine?


I can't speak about hwinfo. But the problem seems to be in your hardware 
somehow.


I know that in the early days of USB support, some computers thought 
non-booting USB devices (like a printer) was a boot device, and would 
look for a boot record there and hang for a long time. We got around 
that by unplugging the printer until after the POST part of booting.


I'm also suspecting a floppy drive issue, that the BIOS is set to boot 
from it and one doesn't exist, or some such.


Also, back to the USB printer, perhaps you have a memory card inserted 
into a memory card slot on the printer (having printed some pictures 
from it a few days ago, maybe), and the computer is seeing that card via 
the printer connection and trying to boot from it.


Maybe these comments will help; if not, apologies for the noise.

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Re: Fw: EEE-PC (900HD) + NetInst

On Mon 04 Jun 2012 at 13:22:34 +0200, Adnan RIHAN wrote:

  That is correct. There is only one interface on the machine so d-i
  goes straight to configuring it. Have you progressed beyond that
  point?

 Actually, I have some news.  I've restarted d-i, it's still
 configuring ONLY eth0, so I can't go further.

I may have misunderstood you earlier. You have ethernet and wireless on
the machine. Does the ethernet port work?

 But, I've started a rescue shell and tried:
  lspci -nn
  01:00.0 Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8187SE 
  Wireless LAN Controller (rev 22)
  03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications AR8121/AR8113/AR8114 
  Gigabit or Fast Ethernet (rev b0)
 So... Both of my interfaces are detected. But when I start the network
 configuration, it configures eth0, without asking me to choose between
 the 2 network cards.

The lspci command gives what the kernel has detected, not what the
installer has found when it runs the detecting the network hardware
option. It looks like d-i is misbehaving and does not pick up on the
wireless interface.

In a console

   cat /var/log/syslog | grep wlan

 Normal behavior ?

Not particularily, but I've experienced something similar. Using one of
the alpha images sorts it for me and could save you time and trouble.


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Re: what did hwinfo do to my machine?


Dan B. wrote:

After I ran hwinfo (to detect a modem), my machine runs very slowly at
the beginning of booting.

(GRUB takes about 8 seconds between displaying the the Welcome to GRUB!
text and the error: fd0 read error. text, and another 25 seconds for
the screen to go blank on the way to displaying the menu.

Kernel booting might be slow for the first dozen or so messages; after
that, everything seems to be fine.)

What the heck did hwinfo do to my machine?


Perhaps a silly thought, but... did you install hwinfo just before 
running it, and if so, did you install any dependencies in the process?  
hwinfo requires some libraries that get pretty close to the hardware - 
perhaps a changed library is causing your problems



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Re: Setting up the scanner

On Mon, 04 Jun 2012 11:34:08 +0200, steef wrote:

(...)

  # Canon PIXMA MP280
  ATTRS{idVendor}==04a9, ATTRS{idProduct}==1746, MODE=0666, 
 GROUP=scanner, ENV{libsane_matched}=yes

(...)

Looks right.

Also ensure that your user pertains to the scanner group (id).

 well... i put the MP280 line in the /lib/udev/rules.d/60-.../  
 yet the machine did not appear in xsane. what did i do wrong? (that is
 what i meant by 'it did not work out well')

Errr... steef, you have to test with the Canon scanning software 
(scangearmp).
 
 (i looked further gain into /var/log/dmesg. dmesg tells me the canon is
 recognized).

I can't tell with it does not work within xsane (my guess is that your 
device is not directly supported by sane), but remember you have 
installed a set of utilities from Canon to get your devie working so you 
have to use Canon provided tools ;-)

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Installer in testing xfce fail

2012-06-04 Thread Πρεκατές Αλέξανδρος

The bug is #673997  .

Hae anyone else experienced installer problem in testing iso images  like 
this.


alexandros


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Re: Subject: Re: dhclient does not recognize config file

On Sun, 03 Jun 2012 13:34:41 -0700, Paul Zimmerman wrote:

 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:
Put the logs here or better yet, upload them to www.pastebin.com
(remember to hide/remove any sensitive data contained at the logs).
Also, as you are using WICD, it could be that there is a configuration
file that you to edit for this purpose... how about the /etc/wicd/
dhclient.conf.template file? What is that for? :-?
 
 That tells wicd how to configure dhclient. :) Yes, I just found that
 myselfyesterday while researching about wicd. And when I put the same
 line recommended for dhclient.conf into the wicd template file at that
 location it works. Finally I have all the pieces of DNS caching working
 in Linux!

Oh, it was just that? I wonder if that file is well-documented enough (I 
can't tell because I never used WICD) :-?
 
 Now if I can just figure out why the sl-modem-daemon that was working
 perfectly has suddenly gone haywire...
 
 :-/

Better open a new thread for this :-)

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Re: Troubleshooting Debian

On Mon, 04 Jun 2012 09:07:06 +0900, DragonDon wrote:

 Greetings all!
 
 I know this will be a rather difficult thing to answer I think, but are
 there any generic steps listed somewhere on how to troublehshoot a
 problem on a Debian/Linux system?  

Uf... experience is our best ally here. I always say that a computer is 
not a fridge :-)

 I understand that each problem can be rather unique on how you approach
 it but I have yet to see a kind of flow-chart or at least some 
 guidelines (did a quick search of the Debian FAQ and the LDP) and
 nothing was immediately obvious.  

I remember a nice flowcharts for debugging the basics of computing 
related problems (mostly hardware) but they were general, not aimed for a 
specific software/OS problem.

 I was kinda looking for a:
 
 1/ Check logs.  Insert ways to check various logs (both CLI and GUI) 
 2/ Type commands (for networks use command A, for video use command B,
 for)

(...)

The nature of the problem will render those step-by-step guides almost 
useless. I mean, depending on the error or misfunctioning you are 
experiencing you'll have to follow different steps; one size does not fit 
all, I'm afraid :-(

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Re: Setting up the scanner

2012-06-04 Thread steef


Camaleón wrote:

On Mon, 04 Jun 2012 11:34:08 +0200, steef wrote:

(...)


  # Canon PIXMA MP280
  ATTRS{idVendor}==04a9, ATTRS{idProduct}==1746, MODE=0666, GROUP=scanner, 
ENV{libsane_matched}=yes


(...)

Looks right.

Also ensure that your user pertains to the scanner group (id).


well... i put the MP280 line in the /lib/udev/rules.d/60-.../
yet the machine did not appear in xsane. what did i do wrong? (that is
what i meant by 'it did not work out well')


that is to say: xsane does not do the job up till now. but, as a stubborn 
friesian, i will not give up.


Errr... steef, you have to test with the Canon scanning software
(scangearmp).


i did that and the scanner is working like a charm. sorry. i should have told 
you that. the point is: i could not stand *not*  to get xsane working





(i looked further gain into /var/log/dmesg. dmesg tells me the canon is
recognized).


I can't tell with it does not work within xsane (my guess is that your
device is not directly supported by sane), but remember you have
installed a set of utilities from Canon to get your devie working so you
have to use Canon provided tools ;-)


as i wrote: the cannon tools work like a charm now.

thank you again very much for your support!

cheers,

steef



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Re: Installer in testing xfce fail

On Mon, 04 Jun 2012 19:48:59 +0300, Πρεκατές Αλέξανδρος wrote:

 The bug is #673997  .

A direct link would have helped to the lazy people like me ;-P

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=673997
 
 Hae anyone else experienced installer problem in testing iso images 
 like this.

Yes, though not directly but I've read at least of two users suffering 
from this (using a different set of ISO daily/weekly images could help).

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Re: MySQL stored procedure slow with recent Wheezy upgrade

2012-06-04 Thread hvw59601


Daniel Kraft wrote:

Hi,

I'm running Wheezy, and a recent update to MySQL made a database
application much, much slower.  The query performed is a stored
procedure containing some loops, which before (at least on 24th May)
took less than one second, and now (today) more than four minutes.  I
didn't change either the code nor the data.



snip

What's the version of MySQL?

Hugo


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Re: Setting up the scanner

On Mon, 04 Jun 2012 16:19:43 +0200, steef wrote:

 Camaleón wrote:
 On Mon, 04 Jun 2012 11:34:08 +0200, steef wrote:

 (...)

   # Canon PIXMA MP280
   ATTRS{idVendor}==04a9, ATTRS{idProduct}==1746, MODE=0666,
   GROUP=scanner, ENV{libsane_matched}=yes

 (...)

 Looks right.

 Also ensure that your user pertains to the scanner group (id).

 well... i put the MP280 line in the /lib/udev/rules.d/60-.../
 yet the machine did not appear in xsane. what did i do wrong? (that is
 what i meant by 'it did not work out well')
 
 that is to say: xsane does not do the job up till now. but, as a
 stubborn friesian, i will not give up.

And you shouldn't give up! :-)

Here is a list of the supported devices by SANE:

http://www.sane-project.org/sane-mfgs.html#Z-CANON

Yours is not listed (still) but being very similar to mp270 I think it 
could be just a matter of time it is added as supported. You can ask for 
the current status of this scanner at the SANE devel/user mailing list.

 Errr... steef, you have to test with the Canon scanning software
 (scangearmp).
 
 i did that and the scanner is working like a charm. sorry. i should have
 told you that. the point is: i could not stand *not*  to get xsane
 working

(...)

Ah, yes, that's what I would have expected. Remember you are using a 
Canon (-ahem- which is not a linux-friendly manufacturer -ahem-) device, 
you can consider yourself lucky that it's even working ;-)

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Re: what did hwinfo do to my machine?


Stan Hoeppner wrote:

On 6/3/2012 11:05 PM, Dan B. wrote:

After I ran hwinfo (to detect a modem), my machine runs very slowly at
the beginning of booting.


You did something else also.  The hwinfo manpage says nothing about
running at boot, so I assume it has nothing to do with this.

Something is running at boot that wasn't before, and is slowing down the
boot process.  Look at your dmesg output and your grub command line to
see what it may be.


Did you really read my message?

I didn't say that hwinfo was running at boot.  I said that I ran hwinfo,
and after than, the beginning booting has been slow.

Also, I wrote:
 GRUB takes about 8 seconds between displaying the the Welcome to GRUB!
 text and the error: fd0 read error. text...

That's before the Linux kernel is even involved, so how would dmesg be
related?  In fact, that's before the contents of a GRUB command line have
any effect, so that's not related either.


Daniel


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Apache, mod_rewrite and directory context

2012-06-04 Thread Jimmy Thrasibule

Hi,

I'm trying to pass everything that is not a file to `index.php` as a
request parameter without using a `.htaccess` file.

A request to http://www.example.com/test must be rewritten to
http://www.example.com/index.php?q=/test.

I'm using Debian Squeeze (6.0) and Apache 2.2.16. Here is my
configuration file:

VirtualHost *:80
  DocumentRoot /var/www/example
  ServerName www.example.com
  ServerAlias example.com

  ErrorLog /var/log/apache2/error/example.log
  CustomLog /var/log/apache2/access/example.log combined

  IfModule mod_rewrite.c
RewriteEngine On

RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} !^www\.example\.com$ [NC]
RewriteRule ^/(.*) http://www.example.com/$1 [L,R=301]
  /IfModule

  Directory /var/www/test
AllowOverride None
Options -Indexes +FollowSymLinks
DirectoryIndex index.php

IfModule mod_rewrite.c
  RewriteEngine On
  RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f
  RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-d
  RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} !=/favicon.ico
  RewriteRule ^/(.*)$ index.php?q=$1 [L,QSA]
/IfModule
  /Directory
/VirtualHost

The first call to `mod_rewrite` within the _VirtualHost_ scope will as
expected change example.com to www.example.com. But, the second call in
the _Directory_ does not seems to work and calling
http://www.example.com/test will throw a 404 error.

Here is the result in the log file:

(2) init rewrite engine with requested uri /test
(3) applying pattern '^/(.*)' to uri '/test'
(4) RewriteCond: input='www.example.com' pattern='!^www\.example\.com
$' [NC] = not-matched
(1) pass through /test
(3) [perdir /var/www/example/] strip per-dir
prefix: /var/www/example/test - test
(3) [perdir /var/www/example/] applying pattern '^/(.*)$' to uri 'test'
(1) [perdir /var/www/example/] pass through /var/www/test/test
File does not exist: /var/www/test/test

What did I miss?

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Re: EEE-PC (900HD) + NetInst


   That is correct. There is only one interface on the machine so d-i
   goes straight to configuring it. Have you progressed beyond that
   point?

   
  
  
  Actually, I have some news. I've restarted d-i, it's still
  configuring ONLY eth0, so I can't go further.
   
  
  
 I may have misunderstood you earlier. You have ethernet and wireless on
 the machine. Does the ethernet port work?
  
  

On this machine, Ethernet + WiFi are working normally AFAIK.
  
  But, I've started a rescue shell and tried:
   lspci -nn
   01:00.0 Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8187SE 
   Wireless LAN Controller (rev 22)
   03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications AR8121/AR8113/AR8114 
   Gigabit or Fast Ethernet (rev b0)

   
  So... Both of my interfaces are detected. But when I start the network
  configuration, it configures eth0, without asking me to choose between
  the 2 network cards.
   
  
  
 The lspci command gives what the kernel has detected, not what the
 installer has found when it runs the detecting the network hardware
 option. It looks like d-i is misbehaving and does not pick up on the
 wireless interface.
  
 In a console
  
 cat /var/log/syslog | grep wlan
No wlan on syslog :/

 cat /var/log/syslog | grep wlan
 ~ #   

  
  Normal behavior ?
  
  
 Not particularily, but I've experienced something similar. Using one of
 the alpha images sorts it for me and could save you time and trouble.
  
  


Actually, it's happening since Debian 5. I have this EEE since 3 years, and it 
never worked.
So you have a solution ?

Thank you.
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Re: EEE-PC (900HD) + NetInst


   That is correct. There is only one interface on the machine so d-i
   goes straight to configuring it. Have you progressed beyond that
   point?

   
  
  
  Actually, I have some news. I've restarted d-i, it's still
  configuring ONLY eth0, so I can't go further.
   
  
  
 I may have misunderstood you earlier. You have ethernet and wireless on
 the machine. Does the ethernet port work?
  
  
  

On this machine, Ethernet + WiFi are working normally AFAIK.



  But, I've started a rescue shell and tried:
   lspci -nn
   01:00.0 Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8187SE 
   Wireless LAN Controller (rev 22)
   03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications AR8121/AR8113/AR8114 
   Gigabit or Fast Ethernet (rev b0)

   
  So... Both of my interfaces are detected. But when I start the network
  configuration, it configures eth0, without asking me to choose between
  the 2 network cards.
   
  
  
 The lspci command gives what the kernel has detected, not what the
 installer has found when it runs the detecting the network hardware
 option. It looks like d-i is misbehaving and does not pick up on the
 wireless interface.
  
 In a console
  
 cat /var/log/syslog | grep wlan
No wlan on syslog :/



 cat /var/log/syslog | grep wlan
 ~ #   
  

  



  Normal behavior ?
  
  
 Not particularily, but I've experienced something similar. Using one of
 the alpha images sorts it for me and could save you time and trouble.
  
  
  


Actually, it's happening since Debian 5. I have this EEE since 3 years, and it 
never worked.
So you have a solution ?

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Re: Problem with kernel patching

On Sun, 03 Jun 2012 21:35:12 +0100, dobrima...@yahoo.pl wrote:

(please, no html formatted posts, thanks :-) )

 Hello, I have a problem with patching kernel 2.6-2.6.32.
 
 I'm trying to add PVUSB [1] support in Xen. According to [1] I should
 add a patch [2] to kernel. I was trying to do it with steps described in
 [3].
 
 I had to make some changes in the patch file because in the meantime
 some other changes appeared. After my changes the patch file looks like
 [4].
 
 When I try to execute make -f debian/rules source-all it fails at
 applying my patch stage. The errors appearing until I add a/ i b/
 prefixes at lines 2, 3, 2045, 2046, 2060, 2061,4390 and 4391. I'm not
 sure what is the purpose of using it there.

(...)

Mmm... it's a rather large patch. I would ask for feedback at the pkg-
xen-devel mailing list:

http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-xen-devel

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Re: what did hwinfo do to my machine?


Kent West wrote:

On 06/03/2012 11:05 PM, Dan B. wrote:

After I ran hwinfo (to detect a modem), my machine runs very slowly at
the beginning of booting.

(GRUB takes about 8 seconds between displaying the the Welcome to GRUB!
text and the error: fd0 read error. text, ...)

What the heck did hwinfo do to my machine?


I can't speak about hwinfo. But the problem seems to be in your hardware 
somehow.


Well, the _current_ problem is in my hardware.  We don't know yet that
hwinfo doesn't have a problem too (of changing persistent hardware
settings in the process of probing).


I know that in the early days of USB support, some computers thought 
non-booting USB devices (like a printer) was a boot device, and would 
look for a boot record there and hang for a long time. We got around 
that by unplugging the printer until after the POST part of booting.


I'm also suspecting a floppy drive issue, that the BIOS is set to boot 
from it and one doesn't exist, or some such.


Also, back to the USB printer, perhaps you have a memory card inserted 
into a memory card slot on the printer (having printed some pictures 
from it a few days ago, maybe), and the computer is seeing that card via 
the printer connection and trying to boot from it.


I don't see any way that it's something like that.

I've been rebooting multiple times per day (configuring a new system
and rebooting to check setting), so it's not like I attached or detected
some device days ago, forgot about it, and just now rebooted and ran
into symptoms caused by an earlier change.


I had tried configuring PPP.  pppconfig hadn't detected an attached
modem.

On some subsequent boot, I installed hwinfo, ran it a couple of times,
and it detected the modem (after not detecting it earlier, presumably
because of an incompletely plugged-in cable).

On a boot very soon after that (probably the next boot, but I can't
say for sure), GRUB began being very slow.


The only changes in device attachments were 1) connecting and
disconnecting the modem from the serial port and 2) the KVM switching
I've been doing for weeks.

There was a USB memory stick that was attached, but that hadn't
changed in weeks.  Also, after the symptoms started, I removed it, but
the problem remains.


As I said, I wonder if some persistent setting in my hard disks
(SATA disks) got changed.

What tools does Linux have for looking at disk settings (Seagate
Barracuda disks)?


Thanks,
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Re: sl-modem-daemon forces off-hook all the time

On Sun, 03 Jun 2012 13:38:02 -0700, Paul Zimmerman wrote:

 Well, as soon as I solve one problem another one pops up.

Penguin lovers' life is hard but you get accustomed very quickly :-P
 
 Running Linux is like playing whack-a-mole. For some reason the
 sl-modem-daemon on my system has started forcing the phone line off-hook
 at all times. This means it will cause the
 
 phone line to shut down until you disconnect the phone wire
 
 to let the system reset. I don't recall changing anything about the
 sl-modem-daemon, or even the sound system. So why
 
 would it start doing that? Time to go hunting through more config
 files...

Mmm, you said the magic key: off-hook. Googling around by that keyword 
there seem to be some docs and forums posts pointing to ALSA and this 
lead me to the sl-modem-daemon changelog file, which says:

Version 2.9.11
-Off-hook with mixer (ALSA mode)

And there's also a mention of this at the README file, I would take a 
look at it; maybe is that you now have define something at /etc/default/
sl-modem-daemon file t get this working.

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Re: wpa_supplicant.wlan1.pid

On Mon, 04 Jun 2012 10:46:19 +1000, ariestao wrote:

 I get this message:
 
 Sometimes the connection fails and sometimes it continues on as here:
 
 bound to xxx.xxx.x.xxx -- renewal in 34212 seconds. 
 cat: /var/run/wpa_supplicant.wlan1.pid: No such file or directory 

(...)

Are you running Squeeze? If yes, it could be this bug:

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=638789

(see message #10)

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Re: Installer in testing xfce fail

2012-06-04 Thread Tom H

On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 12:48 PM, Πρεκατές Αλέξανδρος
apreka...@gmail.com wrote:

 The bug is #673997  .

 Hae anyone else experienced installer problem in testing iso images  like
 this.

The only installer that's working for me is the businesscard iso. The
fix must be non-trivial because this bug and #674100 haven't been
updated for a while and the daily and weekly images have been broken
for two weeks (I haven't tried for a week though, I'm relying on these
two bug reports being closed).


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Re: wine-utils progress to find .

On Mon, 04 Jun 2012 12:38:27 +0700, Sthu Deus wrote:

 I have such a case w/ *wine* upgrade - and it is for about a week that
 the packages are held back:

(...)

 The following packages have unmet dependencies: wine-utils :
 Depends: libwine (= 1.0.1-3.1) but 1.2.3-0.3 is to be installed.
 Depends: wine-bin (= 1.0.1-3.1) but 1.2.3-0.3 is to be installed. The
 following actions will resolve these dependencies:
 
  Remove the following packages:
 1) wine-utils

(...)

It seems reasonable because that package it's not longer available in 
testing/sid/experimental as stated at the changelog:

***
http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/w/wine/wine_1.2.3-0.3/changelog

wine-unstable (1.1.25-1) unstable; urgency=low 

(...)

* Moved all winelib programs in wine-utils to libwine-bin and wine-bin.
  Moved all development utilities in wine-utils to libwine-dev.
  Moved all remaining utilities in wine-utils to wine-bin.
  Deleted the wine-utils package.
* Removed wine-utils from README.Debian.
***

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Re: what did hwinfo do to my machine?


Miles Fidelman wrote:

Dan B. wrote:

After I ran hwinfo (to detect a modem), my machine runs very slowly at
the beginning of booting.

(GRUB takes about 8 seconds between displaying the the Welcome to GRUB!
text and the error: fd0 read error. text, and another 25 seconds for
the screen to go blank on the way to displaying the menu.

Kernel booting might be slow for the first dozen or so messages; after
that, everything seems to be fine.)

What the heck did hwinfo do to my machine?


Perhaps a silly thought, but... did you install hwinfo just before 
running it, and if so, did you install any dependencies in the process?  


Yes, and one prerequisite that aptitude installed for hwinfo was a hal
library.


hwinfo requires some libraries that get pretty close to the hardware - 
perhaps a changed library is causing your problems


Except that a changed library is not running, or even loaded, when GRUB
is running (let alone when GRUB is just starting up).


Just to doubly confirm things, I just purged hwinfo and purged the
two prerequisite packages that aptitude installed, and tried rebooting.
GRUB is still slow.



Daniel






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Re: Troubleshooting Debian

2012-06-04 Thread paivakil

DragonDon dragon...@dragondon.net writes:

  1/ Check logs.  Insert ways to check various logs (both CLI and GUI) 
  2/ Type commands (for networks use command A, for video use command
   B, for) 

That is way how it is. What is wrong with that? 


  Right now, and perhaps the only method, is to plunk in any error
  message (when I know there are any) into Google and hopefully a
  solution appears that works for Debian. Obviously a lot of Ubuntu
  results show up but given my limited knowledge on the difference, I
  am not yet qualified enough to know whether it will work without
  causing more complications.

1. If you are using the 'stable' version of Debian, and encounter
problems, chances are(a) you have misconfigured something (b) you have a
hardware issue. 

Either way, you need to ask the offical Debian customer care team. 

IIRC, that is right here. :-D

2. If you are using testing / unstable / experimental versions of
Debian, you know enough whether the answers google throws up are
relevant for ou are not. 

You can still consult Debian customer support.  


  base websites) but was hoping someone may have outlined more steps so
  that I can learn as much as possible without having to wait for
  someone to reply.

Ugh oh. You mean documentation??? You need to install the help packages
for the corresponding binary. I doubt that we have a standard naming
convention for such packages, several, if not, most applications come
bundled with the corresponding help documentation; but most have the
documentation split out into separate packages. 

At this level of troubleshooting, it is unlikely that your issues are
specific to Debian. Sometimes, we may have some quirky configuration
file, but, it is equally likely that such quirks are documented by
authors of such quirks. If and when you encouner such Debian specific
issue for a package, Look in /usr/share/doc/packagename/ directory for
files like README.Debian, README.Debian.gz, changelog.Debian.gz,
NEWS.Debian, etc.



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Re: what did hwinfo do to my machine?

On Mon, 04 Jun 2012 00:05:13 -0400, Dan B. wrote:

 After I ran hwinfo (to detect a modem), my machine runs very slowly at
 the beginning of booting.
 
 (GRUB takes about 8 seconds between displaying the the Welcome to
 GRUB! text and the error: fd0 read error. 
   ^

(...)

Well, that error can be relevant.

Try to disable the floppy disk controller (or any other FDD related stuff 
you find) from the BIOS and see what happens.

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Re: Troubleshooting Debian


paiva...@gmail.com wrote:

DragonDondragon...@dragondon.net  writes:

1/ Check logs.  Insert ways to check various logs (both CLI and GUI)
2/ Type commands (for networks use command A, for video use command
 B, for)


Aren't the first steps:
1. Are the lights on in your house?
2. Is it plugged in?
3. Is it turned on?

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Re: what did hwinfo do to my machine?


Camaleón wrote:

On Mon, 04 Jun 2012 00:05:13 -0400, Dan B. wrote:


After I ran hwinfo (to detect a modem), my machine runs very slowly at
the beginning of booting.

(GRUB takes about 8 seconds between displaying the the Welcome to
GRUB! text and the error: fd0 read error. 

   ^

(...)

Well, that error can be relevant.


How?  It's not the *presence* of the message that has changed.

It's the *delay* between the Welcome to GRUB! message and that
error: fd0 read error. message that has changed (to 8 or 9
seconds, from something close to zero).

Besides, that error message (presumably) simply means that GRUB
didn't successfully read from the floppy drive, which makes perfect
sense since there's no floppy in it.


Try to disable the floppy disk controller (or any other FDD related stuff 
you find) from the BIOS and see what happens.


Maybe I'll go ahead and try that out of desperation, but how would
that fix the problem?  Things were fine (GRUB loaded normally fast)
with the FDC enabled before I ran hwinfo.

Daniel





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Re: what did hwinfo do to my machine?

On Mon, 04 Jun 2012 12:15:01 -0400, Dan B. wrote:

 Camaleón wrote:
 On Mon, 04 Jun 2012 00:05:13 -0400, Dan B. wrote:
 
 After I ran hwinfo (to detect a modem), my machine runs very slowly at
 the beginning of booting.

 (GRUB takes about 8 seconds between displaying the the Welcome to
 GRUB! text and the error: fd0 read error.
^
 
 (...)
 
 Well, that error can be relevant.
 
 How?  It's not the *presence* of the message that has changed.

My crystal ball did not mention that the above error message was present 
before ;-)

 It's the *delay* between the Welcome to GRUB! message and that error:
 fd0 read error. message that has changed (to 8 or 9 seconds, from
 something close to zero).

Yes, I know that behaviour; it's the same long delay I get in one of my 
testing virtual machines.

 Besides, that error message (presumably) simply means that GRUB didn't
 successfully read from the floppy drive, which makes perfect sense since
 there's no floppy in it.

Well, I can't tell what it means but given the nature of the message 
(error) I would ensure anything is all right.

 Try to disable the floppy disk controller (or any other FDD related
 stuff you find) from the BIOS and see what happens.
 
 Maybe I'll go ahead and try that out of desperation, but how would that
 fix the problem?  Things were fine (GRUB loaded normally fast) with the
 FDC enabled before I ran hwinfo.

Who knows... test and tell, that way you'll discard another possible 
source of the problem.

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alsa

2012-06-04 Thread john gennard

/I have Debian 6.05 installed, but on bootup alsa fails. Realtek ALC887 
8 channel

High Definition Audio Codec is incorporated on the Motherboard and works
since I can play CDs using Sound Juicer.

I've 'stumbled around' looking for an answer, but am unable to find one. 
I'm over

81, have been ill for some time and don't know much about Alsa either.

Does anyone have any suggestions. please.

John.
/

Re: what did hwinfo do to my machine?


Dan B. wrote:

Camaleón wrote:

On Mon, 04 Jun 2012 00:05:13 -0400, Dan B. wrote:


After I ran hwinfo (to detect a modem), my machine runs very slowly at
the beginning of booting.

(GRUB takes about 8 seconds between displaying the the Welcome to
GRUB! text and the error: fd0 read error. 

   ^

(...)

Well, that error can be relevant.


How?  It's not the *presence* of the message that has changed.

It's the *delay* between the Welcome to GRUB! message and that
error: fd0 read error. message that has changed (to 8 or 9
seconds, from something close to zero).

Besides, that error message (presumably) simply means that GRUB
didn't successfully read from the floppy drive, which makes perfect
sense since there's no floppy in it.


ahh... but there may be various timeouts involved that have changed, for 
example:
- is the BIOS set to run POST every time, or just under certain 
circumstances, if so, what happens if you set the fast boot option
- maybe turn on BIOS logging and see if it catches any funniness during 
the pre-GRUB boot process


also sounds like your system was having problems finding the network 
card at one point, and then that changed - maybe your hardware is flakey 
- run some diagnostics


re. your question about SATA diagnostics:
- smart tools can give you a lot of diagnostic and configuration info 
about your drives, a flaky boot sector might cause a bunch of re-reads 
by the drive hardware
- you might check your drive maker's web site for hardware-specific 
diagnostics


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Re: what did hwinfo do to my machine?

2012-06-04 Thread Curt

On 2012-06-04, Dan B. d...@kempt.net wrote:

 Just to doubly confirm things, I just purged hwinfo and purged the
 two prerequisite packages that aptitude installed, and tried rebooting.
 GRUB is still slow.


Just googling around I've found people with the grub fd0 error
complaining about there being a significant delay, so it would be nice
as the other poster suggested to eliminate the floppy as a possibility
by disabling it.  Why the floppy probing error didn't cause a noticeable
delay from the very beginning might just be one of those intractable
mysteries the resolution of which nobody really cares about in the end.


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Re: what did hwinfo do to my machine?


Camaleón wrote:

On Mon, 04 Jun 2012 12:15:01 -0400, Dan B. wrote:


Camaleón wrote:

On Mon, 04 Jun 2012 00:05:13 -0400, Dan B. wrote:


After I ran hwinfo (to detect a modem), my machine runs very slowly at
the beginning of booting.

(GRUB takes about 8 seconds between displaying the the Welcome to
GRUB! text and the error: fd0 read error.

   ^

(...)

Well, that error can be relevant.

How?  It's not the *presence* of the message that has changed.


My crystal ball did not mention that the above error message was present 
before ;-)


Hey, don't blame me for your assuming (or misinterpreting my words to
mean) that the error: fd0 read error. message was new.  I wrote
_the_ ... error text, not something like _an_ error,  and, I
referred to the welcome text and the error message text with exactly
the same structure (the ... text):

I wrote:
 GRUB takes about 8 seconds between displaying the the Welcome to
 GRUB! text and the error: fd0 read error. text ...




It's the *delay* between the Welcome to GRUB! message and that error:
fd0 read error. message that has changed (to 8 or 9 seconds, from
something close to zero).


Yes, I know that behaviour; it's the same long delay I get in one of my 
testing virtual machines.


How long are the delays you usually see (from the welcome message to
any fd0 error message, from either the later of those to the screen's
blanking, and from then to the GRUB menu)?





Besides, that error message (presumably) simply means that GRUB didn't
successfully read from the floppy drive, which makes perfect sense since
there's no floppy in it.


Well, I can't tell what it means but given the nature of the message 
(error) I would ensure anything is all right.


But what is there to check?  The message seems perfectly well explained:
At the level of reading from the floppy drive, there's read error
because there's no floppy in the drive; that floppy read error isn't
a problem at the GRUB level, because GRUB has been reporting that
floppy-read error and still booting at normal speed ever since I
installed, until this hwinfo incident.




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Re: alsa

On Mon, 04 Jun 2012 17:27:25 +0100, john gennard wrote:

(please, avoid sending html formatted posts)

 /I have Debian 6.05 installed, but on bootup alsa fails. 

In what way fails? What's the printed error? It will provide more info 
about the source of the problem.

 Realtek ALC887 8 channel
 High Definition Audio Codec is incorporated on the Motherboard and works
 since I can play CDs using Sound Juicer.

(...)

So, what is that fails? If you can hear sound coming from your speakers, 
all seems to be good :-?

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Re: alsa

2012-06-04 Thread Raffaele Morelli

2012/6/4 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com

 On Mon, 04 Jun 2012 17:27:25 +0100, john gennard wrote:

 (please, avoid sending html formatted posts)

  /I have Debian 6.05 installed, but on bootup alsa fails.

 In what way fails? What's the printed error? It will provide more info
 about the source of the problem.

  Realtek ALC887 8 channel
  High Definition Audio Codec is incorporated on the Motherboard and works
  since I can play CDs using Sound Juicer.

 (...)

 So, what is that fails? If you can hear sound coming from your speakers,
 all seems to be good :-?


my bet: 99.9% alsa vs pulseaudio

-r
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Re: what did hwinfo do to my machine?


Miles Fidelman wrote:

Dan B. wrote:

Camaleón wrote:

On Mon, 04 Jun 2012 00:05:13 -0400, Dan B. wrote:


After I ran hwinfo (to detect a modem), my machine runs very slowly at
the beginning of booting.

(GRUB takes about 8 seconds between displaying the the Welcome to
GRUB! text and the error: fd0 read error. 

   ^

(...)

Well, that error can be relevant.


How?  It's not the *presence* of the message that has changed.

It's the *delay* between the Welcome to GRUB! message and that
error: fd0 read error. message that has changed (to 8 or 9
seconds, from something close to zero).

Besides, that error message (presumably) simply means that GRUB
didn't successfully read from the floppy drive, which makes perfect
sense since there's no floppy in it.


ahh... but there may be various timeouts involved that have changed, for 
example:
- is the BIOS set to run POST every time, or just under certain 
circumstances, if so, what happens if you set the fast boot option


No, the fast-boot option is off (and has been off since I installed
Squeeze).

When I first noticed the slowness, since it was early in the boot
process (only GRUB was definitely slow, and the kernel was definitely
back to normal, at least after a dozen or so kernel messages at boot),
I thought that maybe hwinfo has messed with some CPU-speed option in
my BIOS, so re-set the BIOS to what I had set it to before, as I had
set it before (loading BIOS defaults and then setting about 8 things
(from a written plan (as opposed to just from memory))).


- maybe turn on BIOS logging and see if it catches any funniness during 
the pre-GRUB boot process


I haven't seen anything about BIOS logging in my BIOS's menus.  Is
it common?  It is known by any other names?


also sounds like your system was having problems finding the network 
card at one point, and then that changed - maybe your hardware is flakey 
- run some diagnostics


No, it has always found the ethernet interface just fine.  I was setting
up PPP for a backup connection when I had the modem detection problem
and tried hwinfo.




re. your question about SATA diagnostics:
- smart tools can give you a lot of diagnostic and configuration info 
about your drives, a flaky boot sector might cause a bunch of re-reads 
by the drive hardware


Okay, thanks.  Maybe I'll try that.


- you might check your drive maker's web site for hardware-specific 
diagnostics


I do have a diagnostics CD, so I can try that too.


Daniel





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Re: what did hwinfo do to my machine?

On Mon, 04 Jun 2012 13:00:39 -0400, Dan B. wrote:

 Camaleón wrote:

(...)

 Well, that error can be relevant.
 How?  It's not the *presence* of the message that has changed.
 
 My crystal ball did not mention that the above error message was
 present before ;-)
 
 Hey, don't blame me for your assuming (or misinterpreting my words to
 mean) that the error: fd0 read error. message was new.  I wrote _the_
 ... error text, not something like _an_ error,  and, I referred to
 the welcome text and the error message text with exactly the same
 structure (the ... text):

Hey, dude, take it easy and calm down, it's okay :-)

Is that an error in this stage I wouldn't take it as normal, I would 
worry about it or at least would dig about if that's a known issue or 
something that's worth reporting.

 It's the *delay* between the Welcome to GRUB! message and that
 error: fd0 read error. message that has changed (to 8 or 9 seconds,
 from something close to zero).
 
 Yes, I know that behaviour; it's the same long delay I get in one of my
 testing virtual machines.
 
 How long are the delays you usually see (from the welcome message to any
 fd0 error message, from either the later of those to the screen's
 blanking, and from then to the GRUB menu)?

I didn't count the exact time it takes but is enough to be annoying and 
noticeable. But this happens on just one system I have with Wheezy and I 
don't get that error coming from the floppy disk (being a notebook I 
don't even have such a device).

 Besides, that error message (presumably) simply means that GRUB didn't
 successfully read from the floppy drive, which makes perfect sense
 since there's no floppy in it.
 
 Well, I can't tell what it means but given the nature of the message
 (error) I would ensure anything is all right.
 
 But what is there to check?  The message seems perfectly well explained:
 At the level of reading from the floppy drive, there's read error
 because there's no floppy in the drive; that floppy read error isn't a
 problem at the GRUB level, because GRUB has been reporting that
 floppy-read error and still booting at normal speed ever since I
 installed, until this hwinfo incident.

You try and tell... or not, that's up to you. But again, I wouldn't 
consider that a normal behaviour unless it is documented somewhere; I've 
never seen that error message before.

Greetings,

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Re: what did hwinfo do to my machine?


Dan B. wrote:


- maybe turn on BIOS logging and see if it catches any funniness 
during the pre-GRUB boot process


I haven't seen anything about BIOS logging in my BIOS's menus.  Is
it common?  It is known by any other names?


Award BIOS has an option under Advanced BIOS settings for DMI Event 
Log.  I know Phoenix BIOS also has the option, not sure where it is in 
the menus.




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Re: what did hwinfo do to my machine?


I did a little googling on error: fd0 read error - and found this page:

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/568720

It's an interesting discussion regarding the behavior of different BIOS 
settings vis-a-vis FDDs.  Particularly noteable is this:


--
Steps to debug this:
* edit /usr/sbin/grub-install to land some code in load.cfg
* the code should be set debug=disk or set debug=all
* also add option to padd -c load.cfg in the case where it's an 
abstracted device


This should turn on debug in grub2 and should explain why floppy is probed.
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Re: what did hwinfo do to my machine?

On Mon 04 Jun 2012 at 13:15:48 -0400, Dan B. wrote:

 Miles Fidelman wrote:

 - you might check your drive maker's web site for hardware-specific  
 diagnostics

 I do have a diagnostics CD, so I can try that too.

How about?: Create a partition on USB stick. Format it ext2/3/4. Mount
the partition on /mnt. Install GRUB to the MBR of the stick

   grub-install --boot-directory=/mnt/boot /dev/sdX

and copy the grub.cfg on your hard disk to /mnt/boot/grub. Boot from the
USB stick. Observe and record.


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Re: Troubleshooting Debian

2012-06-04 Thread Martin Steigerwald

Am Montag, 4. Juni 2012 schrieb DragonDon:
 Greetings all!

Hi!

 I know this will be a rather difficult thing to answer I think, but
 are there any generic steps listed somewhere on how to troublehshoot a
 problem on a Debian/Linux system?  I understand that each problem can
 be rather unique on how you approach it but I have yet to see a kind
 of flow-chart or at least some guidelines (did a quick search of the
 Debian FAQ and the LDP) and nothing was immediately obvious.  I was
 kinda looking for a:
 
 1/ Check logs.  Insert ways to check various logs (both CLI and GUI)
 2/ Type commands (for networks use command A, for video use command B,
 for)
 
 Right now, and perhaps the only method, is to plunk in any error
 message (when I know there are any) into Google and hopefully a
 solution appears that works for Debian. Obviously a lot of Ubuntu
 results show up but given my limited knowledge on the difference, I am
 not yet qualified enough to know whether it will work without causing
 more complications.

I am not aware of anything available that is able to replace the own 
ability to *think*. You have a brain. Use it!

Aside from that there is the Debian Reference and lots of other excellent 
documentation and books about Debian.

Of course I could say, usually the important stuff is in

- /etc
- /usr/share/doc
- man and info pages
- command --help
- read error messages
- tail -f /var/log/something (+ optionally | grep something)
- dmesg
- grep, zgrep
- find
- file -sk somefile or device to see what it is
- blkid
- mount / cat /proc/mounts
- fdisk -l
- lsblk
- df -hT
- ip addr / route / link, ip route get
- /etc: apt/sources.list, apt/preferences, network/interfaces, 
resolv.conf…
- dpkg, apt-get, aptitude

But well now I have still omitted quite a lot of stuff.

So my recommendation is work yourself through Debian Reference and/or some 
good Debian book like

The Debian Administrators Handbook
http://debian-handbook.info

The Debian System
http://debiansystem.info/

or some other good book while gaining your own experience by practically 
using and administering Debian systems.

Ciao,
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Re: what did hwinfo do to my machine?