date:20120805

El Sun, 05 Aug 2012 16:58:29 +0100, José Manuel (EB8CXW) escribió:

 Tengo Debian Wheezy  y iceweasel 14.0.1, el navegador instalado a través
 de experimental ya que en testing no esta todavía en esa versión.
 
 No puedo ver bien esta página con iceweasel, sobre todo la parte
 superior derecha, donde esta el acceso a la cuenta:
 http://www.loteriasyapuestas.es/?utm_source=prizepayout.prizetowalletutm_medium=email
 . Si se puede ver con otro navegador, el de Gnome.

(...)

Se trata de un problema conocido y documentado. Sigue estos pasos:

http://www.loteriasyapuestas.es/mod.faqs/mem.detalle/id.463/relcategoria.231001

El día en que el certificado de la FNMT esté integrado en Firefox será 
declarado fiesta nacional ;-)

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Gráfica Nvidia GeForce 630M

2012-08-05 Thread Marc Marí

Hola a todos de nuevo!

Sigo con mis aventuras configurando el portátil. Ahora estoy
intentando configurar la gráfica nVidia 630M.

Como es una gráfica moderna, es necesaria la última versión de nVidia,
así que he cogido este tutorial:
http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers, y he instalado los
diferentes componentes usando squeeze-backports (aptitude -t
squeeze-backports install ...  , o algo así, era). Está todo bien
configurado, según parece en Xorg.0.log, y se carga bien, pero cuando
coloco Xorg.conf y reinicio, se queda en negro, no se carga ni la
terminal, y el log muestra no screens found (pero como digo, se
cargan perfectamente los módulos glx y nvidia.

Quizás es importante destacar que este portátil tiene dos tarjetas gráficas:

00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Sandy Bridge
Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Device 0de9 (rev a1)

He hecho un aptitude purge al módulo nouveau, y lo he colocado en la
lista negra.

A ver si me podeis ayudar a configurar bien la gráfica!

Un saludo y muchas gracias!


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Re: Gráfica Nvidia GeForce 630M

2012-08-05 Thread Matías Bellone

2012/8/5 Marc Marí 5.markm...@gmail.com:
Hola a todos de nuevo!

Sigo con mis aventuras configurando el portátil. Ahora estoy
intentando configurar la gráfica nVidia 630M.

Como es una gráfica moderna, es necesaria la última versión de nVidia,
así que he cogido este tutorial:
http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers, y he instalado los
diferentes componentes usando squeeze-backports (aptitude -t
squeeze-backports install ... , o algo así, era). Está todo bien
configurado, según parece en Xorg.0.log, y se carga bien, pero cuando
coloco Xorg.conf y reinicio, se queda en negro, no se carga ni la
terminal, y el log muestra no screens found (pero como digo, se
cargan perfectamente los módulos glx y nvidia.

Quizás es importante destacar que este portátil tiene dos tarjetas gráficas:

00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Sandy Bridge
Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Device 0de9 (rev a1)

He hecho un aptitude purge al módulo nouveau, y lo he colocado en la
lista negra.

A ver si me podeis ayudar a configurar bien la gráfica!

Un saludo y muchas gracias!

Por lo que veo es probable que tu portátil tenga la tecnología Optimus
(tenés una placa de video común y la aceleradora gráfica se prende
cuando hace falta). Para hacerla andar en Linux tienes que usar
Bumblebee.

http://wiki.debian.org/Bumblebee

Saludos,
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Re: Gráfica Nvidia GeForce 630M

2012-08-05 Thread Marc Marí

Hola

Ya he instalado bumblebee y no se si ha funcionado, me gustaría que me
lo dijeseis:
- Si coloco xorg.conf, no me inicia el servidor gráfico
- Si hago el test que pone en la wiki de Nvidia (glxinfo |grep
rendering) me sale que direct rendering: Yes
- Si intento el mismo test a través de bumblebee (optirun glxinfo) me sale que:
[  208.579662] [ERROR]Cannot access secondary GPU - error: [XORG] (EE)
Failed to load module nouveau (module does not exist, 0)
[  208.579730] [ERROR]Aborting because fallback start is disabled

Pero lo de optirun, es raro que me pida el módulo nouveau, porque lo
he configurado para nvidia, así que no se si está bien configurado.

Un saludo y gracias!

El día 5 de agosto de 2012 22:36, Matías Bellone
matiasbell...@gmail.com escribió:
 2012/8/5 Marc Marí 5.markm...@gmail.com:
 Hola a todos de nuevo!

 Sigo con mis aventuras configurando el portátil. Ahora estoy
 intentando configurar la gráfica nVidia 630M.

 Como es una gráfica moderna, es necesaria la última versión de nVidia,
 así que he cogido este tutorial:
 http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers, y he instalado los
 diferentes componentes usando squeeze-backports (aptitude -t
 squeeze-backports install ...  , o algo así, era). Está todo bien
 configurado, según parece en Xorg.0.log, y se carga bien, pero cuando
 coloco Xorg.conf y reinicio, se queda en negro, no se carga ni la
 terminal, y el log muestra no screens found (pero como digo, se
 cargan perfectamente los módulos glx y nvidia.

 Quizás es importante destacar que este portátil tiene dos tarjetas gráficas:

 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Sandy Bridge
 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Device 0de9 (rev a1)

 He hecho un aptitude purge al módulo nouveau, y lo he colocado en la
 lista negra.

 A ver si me podeis ayudar a configurar bien la gráfica!

 Un saludo y muchas gracias!


 Por lo que veo es probable que tu portátil tenga la tecnología Optimus
 (tenés una placa de video común y la aceleradora gráfica se prende
 cuando hace falta). Para hacerla andar en Linux tienes que usar
 Bumblebee.

 http://wiki.debian.org/Bumblebee

 Saludos,
 Toote
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Re: No puedo ver bien páginas web con iceweasel

2012-08-05 Thread José Manuel (EB8CXW)




El 05/08/12 17:23, Camaleón escribió:

El Sun, 05 Aug 2012 16:58:29 +0100, José Manuel (EB8CXW) escribió:


Tengo Debian Wheezy  y iceweasel 14.0.1, el navegador instalado a través
de experimental ya que en testing no esta todavía en esa versión.

No puedo ver bien esta página con iceweasel, sobre todo la parte
superior derecha, donde esta el acceso a la cuenta:
http://www.loteriasyapuestas.es/?utm_source=prizepayout.prizetowalletutm_medium=email
. Si se puede ver con otro navegador, el de Gnome.

(...)

Se trata de un problema conocido y documentado. Sigue estos pasos:

http://www.loteriasyapuestas.es/mod.faqs/mem.detalle/id.463/relcategoria.231001

El día en que el certificado de la FNMT esté integrado en Firefox será
declarado fiesta nacional ;-)

Saludos,



Hola Camaleón

Gracias por contestar.
Los pasos que hay expone ya los realice al instalación de mi certificado.
Te reitero mi agradecimiento.

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Gran Canaria/España

Si vas a escribir.. piensa en esto:
no digas nada que no sea mas precioso que el silencio!!!


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Configurar ssh sin clave

2012-08-05 Thread Juan

Buenas noches, tengo un pequeño inconveniente... quiero entrar desde
una pc a otra de mi lan via ssh, pero SIN clave, y no puedo...

Lo que hice es:

$ ssh-keygen -t rsa

Y no le pongo nada, solo enter las tres veces, despues:

ssh-copy-id usuario@192.168.0.5 (usuario y host al que quiero llegar)

me dice que hizo todo ok, que tipee ssh 'usuario@192.168.0.5'

y no hay caso, me pide la clave de nuevo.

Si entro al destino (192.168.0.5) y desde ahi hago lo mismo, cuando
trato de conectar a la otra maquina, la primera digamos, se conecta
SIN pedir la clave.

Por esto sospecho que debe haber quedado algun archivo mal configurado
y quisiera ver de reintalar el servicio ssh o al menos, saber que
borrar para que se configure nuevamente. en /home/usuario/.ssh estan
los archivos de las claves, el known_host y un authorizad_keys.

Lo que quiiera ver si alguien me puede decir es como volver a cero
la configuracio para ver si asi lo soluciono.

Gracias

Juan


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Re: Configurar ssh sin clave

2012-08-05 Thread skorky duarte

revisate esto a ver si te sirve
Saludos

El día 5 de agosto de 2012 22:01, Juan jawif...@gmail.com escribió:
 Buenas noches, tengo un pequeño inconveniente... quiero entrar desde
 una pc a otra de mi lan via ssh, pero SIN clave, y no puedo...

 Lo que hice es:

 $ ssh-keygen -t rsa

 Y no le pongo nada, solo enter las tres veces, despues:

 ssh-copy-id usuario@192.168.0.5 (usuario y host al que quiero llegar)

 me dice que hizo todo ok, que tipee ssh 'usuario@192.168.0.5'

 y no hay caso, me pide la clave de nuevo.

 Si entro al destino (192.168.0.5) y desde ahi hago lo mismo, cuando
 trato de conectar a la otra maquina, la primera digamos, se conecta
 SIN pedir la clave.

 Por esto sospecho que debe haber quedado algun archivo mal configurado
 y quisiera ver de reintalar el servicio ssh o al menos, saber que
 borrar para que se configure nuevamente. en /home/usuario/.ssh estan
 los archivos de las claves, el known_host y un authorizad_keys.

 Lo que quiiera ver si alguien me puede decir es como volver a cero
 la configuracio para ver si asi lo soluciono.

 Gracias

 Juan


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Re: Configurar ssh sin clave

2012-08-05 Thread skorky duarte

sorry·...

se me olvido pegarte el link... loool

http://www.spaceprogram.com/knowledge/cron_scp.html


saludos


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find -printf ' %TT

2012-08-05 Thread Mike McClain

Given find / -type f -printf '%TT %p\n'.
Gnu find previously printed hh:mm:ss for the files modify time
but now is printing hh:mm:ss.00 for all 33K+ files on
my Squeeze system.

The man page still says:
T  time, 24-hour (hh:mm:ss)

Is there a way to get back the hh:mm:ss output as it used to be short
of piping the output through sed 's/.00//'?

Thanks,
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Re: find -printf ' %TT

2012-08-05 Thread Sven Joachim

On 2012-08-05 07:57 +0200, Mike McClain wrote:

 Given find / -type f -printf '%TT %p\n'.
 Gnu find previously printed hh:mm:ss for the files modify time
 but now is printing hh:mm:ss.00 for all 33K+ files on
 my Squeeze system.

 The man page still says:
 T  time, 24-hour (hh:mm:ss)

It also says, in the line above

 SSecond (00.00 .. 61.00).  There is a fractional part.

The same applies to T, it seems.

 Is there a way to get back the hh:mm:ss output as it used to be short
 of piping the output through sed 's/.00//'?

Use %.8TT instead.  The sed command won't work anyway if the filesystem
supports high resolution timestamps.

Cheers,
   Sven


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Problems with open source ati driver

2012-08-05 Thread John Kapnogiannis

Hello. I own a dell studio 1555 laptop with an ATI Mobility Radeon HD
4570 (RV710) gpu and I have problems configuring it. I recently found
out that support has been dropped from fglrx and that the only
solution for me is the open source radeon driver. Here's my story:

I edited the xorg.conf file and replaced fglrx with radeon. Except
from that there are no more options added to the segment Device. I
istalled all the packages necessary for non-free firmware etc. I use
an up-to-date testing installation with KDE. KDM never comes up. I
just get a console where i type my login credentials and type startx
in order to start x server. KDE gets loaded with 3d effects on after
an upgrade in some acpi packages. Prior to that upgrade 3d effects
failed to load.

My problem on all this is that after a while my laptop starts to gain
high temperature leading to a complete cut of power. Suppose this is a
failsafe method for it to avoid permanent damage. I have searched but
I have found no solution. Any help?

Please cc me cause I am not currently registered to this mailing list.

Thank you very much


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Re: Problems with open source ati driver

2012-08-05 Thread Gary Dale


On 05/08/12 04:59 AM, John Kapnogiannis wrote:

Hello. I own a dell studio 1555 laptop with an ATI Mobility Radeon HD
4570 (RV710) gpu and I have problems configuring it. I recently found
out that support has been dropped from fglrx and that the only
solution for me is the open source radeon driver. Here's my story:

I edited the xorg.conf file and replaced fglrx with radeon. Except
from that there are no more options added to the segment Device. I
istalled all the packages necessary for non-free firmware etc. I use
an up-to-date testing installation with KDE. KDM never comes up. I
just get a console where i type my login credentials and type startx
in order to start x server. KDE gets loaded with 3d effects on after
an upgrade in some acpi packages. Prior to that upgrade 3d effects
failed to load.

My problem on all this is that after a while my laptop starts to gain
high temperature leading to a complete cut of power. Suppose this is a
failsafe method for it to avoid permanent damage. I have searched but
I have found no solution. Any help?

Please cc me cause I am not currently registered to this mailing list.

Thank you very much


Have you tried it without using an xorg.conf? Also, do you have the 
radeon kernel module loaded?



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dd command can't get the same uuid

2012-08-05 Thread Fnzh Xx

root@debian:/home/tiger# dd  if=/dev/sda  of=/dev/sdb  bs=10240k
11447+1 records in
11447+1 records out
120034123776 bytes (120 GB) copied, 4729.59 s, 25.4 MB/s
root@debian:/home/tiger# blkid
/dev/sda1: UUID=54AF-15B1 TYPE=vfat 
/dev/sda2: UUID=28D02E2FD02E03A2 TYPE=ntfs 
/dev/sda5: UUID=a3464de4-5676-4ae3-b37a-a1f40708d5ec TYPE=swap 
/dev/sda6: UUID=8b29114c-4f89-4c96-b0c0-579ce58c7345 TYPE=ext3 
/dev/sdb1: UUID=54AF-15B1 TYPE=vfat 
/dev/sdb2: UUID=28D02E2FD02E03A2 TYPE=ntfs 
/dev/sdb5: UUID=a3464de4-5676-4ae3-b37a-a1f40708d5ec TYPE=swap 
/dev/sdb6: UUID=d38e60d8-6bfe-49f9-a381-d89b3b9bbb7f SEC_TYPE=ext2 
TYPE=ext3 

why /dev/sda6 uuid don't equal /dev/sdb6 uuid?

Re: Problems with open source ati driver

2012-08-05 Thread John Kapnogiannis

On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 12:12 PM, Gary Dale garyd...@rogers.com wrote:
On 05/08/12 04:59 AM, John Kapnogiannis wrote:

Hello. I own a dell studio 1555 laptop with an ATI Mobility Radeon HD
4570 (RV710) gpu and I have problems configuring it. I recently found
out that support has been dropped from fglrx and that the only
solution for me is the open source radeon driver. Here's my story:

I edited the xorg.conf file and replaced fglrx with radeon. Except
from that there are no more options added to the segment Device. I
istalled all the packages necessary for non-free firmware etc. I use
an up-to-date testing installation with KDE. KDM never comes up. I
just get a console where i type my login credentials and type startx
in order to start x server. KDE gets loaded with 3d effects on after
an upgrade in some acpi packages. Prior to that upgrade 3d effects
failed to load.

My problem on all this is that after a while my laptop starts to gain
high temperature leading to a complete cut of power. Suppose this is a
failsafe method for it to avoid permanent damage. I have searched but
I have found no solution. Any help?

Please cc me cause I am not currently registered to this mailing list.

Thank you very much

Have you tried it without using an xorg.conf? Also, do you have the radeon
kernel module loaded?

Yes I have tried deleting the xorg.conf but the results are the same.
I think KMS is enabled. I found that out following a guide in debian
wiki.

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Re: Problems with open source ati driver

2012-08-05 Thread Adrian Fita

On 05/08/12 11:59, John Kapnogiannis wrote:

[...]

 My problem on all this is that after a while my laptop starts to gain
 high temperature leading to a complete cut of power. Suppose this is a
 failsafe method for it to avoid permanent damage. I have searched but
 I have found no solution. Any help?

This is an old issue with the open source xorg radeon driver. See
here[1] a bug report.

 [1]: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36438

The best solution that I found was to downgrade to xorg 1.11 and hold
the packages from upgrading so I can use the fglrx driver. Some
instructions on how to do the downgrade[2].

 [2]: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2012/07/msg00647.html

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Re: installing source packages from snapshot.debian.org with apt-get source

On Sat, 04 Aug 2012 16:38:29 -0500, hvw59601 wrote:

Camaleón wrote:
On Sat, 04 Aug 2012 16:02:12 -0500, hvw59601 wrote:

http://snapshot.debian.org/package/linux/ has in it 8 debian kernel
source packages that I want to install consecutively to see if bug
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=683768 is present.

I want to do the installs with apt-get source.

How does one do this? Specifically, what should the sources.list say?

Does this help?

http://snapshot.debian.org/

Hint: Usage section :-)

I looked at that but the examples of the deb entries they give are
nothing like where the linux source files are.

Uh? :-?

Have you tried with the recommended steps?

Let's see how I see it. You said you wanted to install a bunch of source
kernel packages. So, let's take the first one:

http://snapshot.debian.org/package/linux/3.2.20-1~bpo60%2B1/

Which points to:

http://snapshot.debian.org/archive/debian-backports/20120629T195518Z/pool/main/l/linux/linux_3.2.20-1%7Ebpo60%2B1.debian.tar.xz

So given that URI and back to the Usage hints, I would add to the
sources-list:

deb-src http://snapshot.debian.org/archive/debian-backports/20120629T195518Z/
stable main

(adjust stable to fit your current flavour)

Anyway, you can also get the single .deb binary and install it or fetch
the source to compile the kernel and make your own changes.

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Re: installing source packages from snapshot.debian.org with apt-get source

On Sun, 05 Aug 2012 10:31:48 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:

 On Sat, Aug 04, 2012 at 04:38:29PM -0500, hvw59601 wrote:
 Camaleón wrote:
 On Sat, 04 Aug 2012 16:02:12 -0500, hvw59601 wrote:
 
 http://snapshot.debian.org/package/linux/ has in it 8 debian kernel
 source packages that I want to install consecutively to see if bug
 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=683768 is present.
 
 I want to do the installs with apt-get source.
 
 How does one do this? Specifically, what should the sources.list say?
 
 Does this help?
 
 http://snapshot.debian.org/
 
 Hint: Usage section :-)
 
 
 I looked at that but the examples of the deb entries they give are
 nothing like where the linux source files are.
 
 In that case, your message is best directed to:
 http://lists.debian.org/debian-snapshot/

Oh, come on... yet again with this? You're starting to sound boring :-)

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Re: compile gctwiwax on squeeze

On Sun, 05 Aug 2012 10:18:33 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:

 On Sat, Aug 04, 2012 at 08:05:06PM +, Camaleón wrote:
 On Sun, 05 Aug 2012 04:03:27 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:
 
  On Fri, Aug 03, 2012 at 03:27:40PM +, Camaleón wrote:
  As per the INSTALL file, have you built libeap.so as instructed?
  
   Why is this a Debian problem?
  
  Nobody has said so. He is asking for support when compiling a
  program ;-)
  
  Right, which has nothing to do with Debian SUPPORT.
 
 You have to be kidding, right?
 
 Umm, no. Debian is a binary distribution.

And your point here of being binary is what exactly?

 but:
 
 A quick google turns up this:
 https://lists.openwrt.org/pipermail/openwrt-devel/2011-October/012503.html

Glad to see you're returning to the common sense side :-)

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Re: Problems with open source ati driver

2012-08-05 Thread John Kapnogiannis

On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 1:03 PM, Adrian Fita adrian.f...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 05/08/12 11:59, John Kapnogiannis wrote:

 [...]

 My problem on all this is that after a while my laptop starts to gain
 high temperature leading to a complete cut of power. Suppose this is a
 failsafe method for it to avoid permanent damage. I have searched but
 I have found no solution. Any help?

 This is an old issue with the open source xorg radeon driver. See
 here[1] a bug report.

  [1]: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36438

 The best solution that I found was to downgrade to xorg 1.11 and hold
 the packages from upgrading so I can use the fglrx driver. Some
 instructions on how to do the downgrade[2].

  [2]: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2012/07/msg00647.html

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I think downgrading the xorg is not a solution. Sometime you will have
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Re: Re: Update the dpkg's status database

2012-08-05 Thread Slavko

Hi,

sorry, if ugly format, i lost your message, then this is reply from archive

 Uninstalled, but not purged, packages are shown. Try apt-get install
 jarwrapper; apt-get remove jarwrapper; dpkg --purge jarwrapper and
 compare the different output of dpkg -l.

I hope, that i understand now from where was my mistake coming:

LANG=C dpkg -l aspell-hi
Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
| Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend
|/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
||/ Name Version  Description
+++---
un  aspell-hinone   (no desc available)

First i think, that there is info about this package in status file, but i
was wrong, because there is only item for aspell package, which points to
the aspell-hi:

grep aspell-hi /var/lib/dpkg/status
Replaces: aspell-bin ( 0.60.3-2), aspell-hi (= 0.01-1), ...
^

This was my confusion and misunderstanding, thanks for pointing :-)

 Using dpkg-query also has the advantage that you can specify the
 output format:
 ...
 Note the return code of 1 when no packages are found.

This is only one, what i am using for my purpose, because i am redirecting
whole output to /dev/null in my script (now changed to dpkg-query):

if dpkg-query --load-avail -l $NAM_PACK /dev/null 21; then
...

But thanks for nice examples.

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Re: Strange network activity after updates

On Sat, 04 Aug 2012 19:48:35 -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:

 On Sat, 04 Aug 2012, Camaleón wrote:

 I've never read about linux boxes being used as bots, can you please
 indicate any report/stats about that fact?
 
 We've cleaned up a few work.  We are not sure how the payload got in
 (best guess: browser).  I am not allowed to disclose any more data than
 this.

What?! Are you saying you have been tracking (or are aware of) these kind 
of security flaws which is being actively exploited in Linux but can't 
comment on? If that's true, that's a very serious situation. As I said, I 
don't know of any malware that can be exploited in that way under the 
linux ecosystem.

 Still, now that you have heard about it, you can satisfy your curiosity
 by doing the searches yourself.  And javascript botnets work in Linux,
 as I said (but they're a bit more ephemeral most of the time).

Papers, please. I ask because I'm subscribed to security bulletins and 
have not clue about what you are saying. The last malware I read about 
were targeted to MacOS systems (flashback and oscrisis) but they were, 
IIRC:

- A trojan (data stealing)
- It benefited from an old (vulnerable) java version

This effectively means the malware profited not from an OS vulnerability 
but a JRE flaw.

Beyond this, I'm not aware of any treat that makes linux systems become 
part of a botnet so I will thank any additional information you can 
provide in this regard.

 (and please, do not put linux *servers* in the same bag, I speak here
 about linux *desktops* not computers with opened ports and running
 out-of- date and unpatched software)
 
 There isn't that much difference between linux servers and desktops.
 Desktops are often just as out-of-date as your typical badly
 administered server, and also have open ports.  And there are no polite
 words appropriate to describe the browser security and security model,
 especially if you factor in plugins.

There are many differences between them.

First, a server is usually managed by people that knows how this stuff 
works (thus, care about security and having up-to-date systems, there are 
exceptions, I know) while desktop users rely on their OS to take care 
about the usual flaws (updating routines should ensure they run the 
latest and patched software).

Second, a server does usually have to open and forward ports into local 
machines and this is not always done with a proper firewall in front of 
the machines neither having IPS systems. A usual desktop comes with no 
open ports at all and firewall is enabled from the DSL modem/router 
appliance.

There are still the plugins problematic, I accept that, but I still have 
not read a single report about a linux user being infected when browsing 
the web, of course, not from WINE+internet explorer but from their usual 
tools (Debian+firefox/Chrome...).

   My Debian box is staying offline until I find out what is going
   on.
  
  That's sounds a bit radical :-o
  
  It is actually a very responsible way of handling it.
 
 With the given data? Running Debian? Behind a home router which usually
 come by default with NAT and firewall enabled? I don't think so.
 Really.
 
 Well, that's your prerrogative.  He has already detected weird
 behaviour.  In MY book, that means you consider it compromised until
 further data, and you try to protect yourself and others by keeping it
 contained until you know more.

I wouldn't consider weird behaviour a connection from/to SSDP and 
Google machines. And while removing the link from the suspicious system 
that's under investigaction will solve the spurious network activity 
you neither can run more tests on it to discover what are those coming.

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Re: strange fsck

2012-08-05 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI


On 08/05/2012 01:25 AM, 水静流深 wrote:

root@debian:/home/tiger# fsck.vfat /dev/sdb1
dosfsck 3.0.9, 31 Jan 2010, FAT32, LFN
There are differences between boot sector and its backup.
Differences: (offset:original/backup)
65:01/00
1) Copy original to backup
2) Copy backup to original
3) No action
? 3
/:50w:58u:586:6UG.ppt
Bad file name.
1) Drop file
2) Rename file
3) Auto-rename
4) Keep it


root@debian:/home/tiger# find /media/usb0 -name :50w:58u:586:6UG.ppt
root@debian:/home/tiger#
why i can't find nothing?
there is no file named :50w:58u:586:6UG.ppt in my system,but fsck say
there is .


I'm just guessing, but since that is an invalid name according to FAT's 
rules, you cannot access it directly. But somehow the file allocation 
table has an entry with that name, fsck notes the problem and allows you 
to change the name; it should become accessible then.


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How to setup Java Platform Plugin for Iceweasel 10.0.6

Hi,

on my Debian GNU/Linux testing/sid system I have installed 
Iceweasel 10.0.6 and 
java version 1.6.0_24
OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea6 1.11.3) (6b24-1.11.3-2)
OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 20.0-b12, mixed mode)

I haven't enabled JAVA in my Iceweasel and don't know how to enable it?

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Re: find -printf ' %TT

On Sat, 04 Aug 2012 22:57:55 -0700, Mike McClain wrote:

 Given find / -type f -printf '%TT %p\n'. Gnu find previously printed
 hh:mm:ss for the files modify time but now is printing
 hh:mm:ss.00 for all 33K+ files on my Squeeze system.
 
 The man page still says:
 T  time, 24-hour (hh:mm:ss)

Mmm... man page also says:

Nanosecond-resolution timestamps were implemented in findutils-4.3.3.

 Is there a way to get back the hh:mm:ss output as it used to be short of
 piping the output through sed 's/.00//'?

Good question. I see no option/sample on how to configure the number of 
nanoseconds to be printed (maybe I overlooked the man page and also 
info doc) and curiously enough, %Tr does not get the decimal part :-?

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Re: dd command can't get the same uuid

On Sun, 05 Aug 2012 02:28:22 -0700, Fnzh Xx wrote:

(please, no html posts, thanks)

 root@debian:/home/tiger# dd  if=/dev/sda  of=/dev/sdb  bs=10240k 
 11447+1 records in
 11447+1 records out
 120034123776 bytes (120 GB) copied, 4729.59 s, 25.4 MB/s
 root@debian:/home/tiger# blkid
(...)
 /dev/sda6: UUID=8b29114c-4f89-4c96-b0c0-579ce58c7345 TYPE=ext3 
(...)
 /dev/sdb6: UUID=d38e60d8-6bfe-49f9-a381-d89b3b9bbb7f SEC_TYPE=ext2 
 TYPE=ext3
 
 why /dev/sda6 uuid don't equal /dev/sdb6 uuid? 

Maybe different hard disk sizes?

Anyway, you can edit the UUID from tune2fs.

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Re: How to setup Java Platform Plugin for Iceweasel 10.0.6

On Sun, 05 Aug 2012 13:29:42 +0200, Csanyi Pal wrote:

 on my Debian GNU/Linux testing/sid system I have installed Iceweasel
 10.0.6 and
 java version 1.6.0_24
 OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea6 1.11.3) (6b24-1.11.3-2) 
 OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 20.0-b12, mixed mode)
 
 I haven't enabled JAVA in my Iceweasel and don't know how to enable it?

IIRC you needed the plugin package (icedtea6-plugin). 

Then you can test if it is working from:

http://www.java.com/en/download/testjava.jsp

Note: OpenJDK version 7 is the most up-to-date.

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Re: bug kde 4.8.4

2012-08-05 Thread Martin Steigerwald

Am Samstag, 4. August 2012 schrieb Camaleón:
 On Sat, 04 Aug 2012 00:14:16 +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
  Am Freitag, 3. August 2012 schrieb Camaleón:
  On Thu, 02 Aug 2012 13:20:48 -0600, alex wrote:
   bug KDE 4.8.4 DEBIAN SID  august-02-2012
  
  (...)
  
  Bug reports have to be filed at Debian BTS:
  
  http://www.debian.org/Bugs/index.en.html
  
  CC´ing to sub...@bugs.debian.org should have done that.
 
 Oh, sorry, I did not see the CC (excuse → my newsreader does not show
 additional headers by default).
 
 Anyway, if the OP wanted to manually send the report by e-mail, the
 body has to be properly formatted as instructed at the wiki, otherwise
 it would be rejected.

Point taken ;).

And a recommendation to Alex: Use reportbug ;)

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Re: find -printf ' %TT

2012-08-05 Thread Martin Steigerwald

Am Sonntag, 5. August 2012 schrieb Camaleón:
 On Sat, 04 Aug 2012 22:57:55 -0700, Mike McClain wrote:
  Given find / -type f -printf '%TT %p\n'. Gnu find previously
  printed hh:mm:ss for the files modify time but now is printing
  hh:mm:ss.00 for all 33K+ files on my Squeeze system.
  
  The man page still says:
  T  time, 24-hour (hh:mm:ss)
 
 Mmm... man page also says:
 
 Nanosecond-resolution timestamps were implemented in findutils-4.3.3.

Not quite backwards-compatible for scripts parsing the output I´d say ;)

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Re: Something about netiquette Re: systemd

On Tue, 2012-07-31 at 21:00 +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
 But I do use systemd, cause it works nicely for me.
 
 So what?

And the technical fact that Poettering's stuff does cause issues for
most computer users is unimportant? You know why so many people don't
use Linux? Linux doesn't run for most stupid users, but Windows does.
It's stuff like pulseaudio that is the showstopper.

Systemd does work for many Linux users, but it also breaks the Linux of
many users.

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Re: Icedove opens Opera from Icedove e-mail links

Firefox/Iceweasel  Edit  Preferences  Advanced 
[x] Always check to see if Firefox is the default browser on startup

Opera  [???] 
Ensure that it isn't set up as the default browser
Dunno, but perhaps this will work for you.

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Re: installing source packages from snapshot.debian.org with apt-get source

On Sun, Aug 05, 2012 at 10:09:20AM +, Camaleón wrote:
 On Sun, 05 Aug 2012 10:31:48 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:
 
  On Sat, Aug 04, 2012 at 04:38:29PM -0500, hvw59601 wrote:
  I looked at that but the examples of the deb entries they give are
  nothing like where the linux source files are.
  
  In that case, your message is best directed to:
  http://lists.debian.org/debian-snapshot/
 
 Oh, come on... yet again with this? You're starting to sound boring :-)

What?  Get off your high horse! :-)

This list covers discussion and maintenance of the snapshot.debian.org
archive as well as the development of enhancements of this service.

Seems entirely appropriate. Unclear/incorrect documentation is a bug.

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Re: compile gctwiwax on squeeze

On Sun, Aug 05, 2012 at 10:12:13AM +, Camaleón wrote:
 On Sun, 05 Aug 2012 10:18:33 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:
  
  A quick google turns up this:
  https://lists.openwrt.org/pipermail/openwrt-devel/2011-October/012503.html
 
 Glad to see you're returning to the common sense side :-)

Huh?, I was indicating how a quick google can more often than not solve,
or at least, steer you in the right direction without wasting network
resources.

Why are you so worried that people might work out how to help
themselves?

Do you disagree with:
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
http://debian-handbook.info/browse/stable/solving-problems.html

in particular:
http://debian-handbook.info/browse/stable/sect.common-procedures.html#idp9613688

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Re: installing source packages from snapshot.debian.org with apt-get source

On Mon, 06 Aug 2012 00:47:18 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:

 On Sun, Aug 05, 2012 at 10:09:20AM +, Camaleón wrote:
 On Sun, 05 Aug 2012 10:31:48 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:
 
  On Sat, Aug 04, 2012 at 04:38:29PM -0500, hvw59601 wrote:
  I looked at that but the examples of the deb entries they give are
  nothing like where the linux source files are.
  
  In that case, your message is best directed to:
  http://lists.debian.org/debian-snapshot/
 
 Oh, come on... yet again with this? You're starting to sound boring :-)
 
 What?  Get off your high horse! :-)

Can't get off (a foot caught in the stirrup).

 This list covers discussion and maintenance of the snapshot.debian.org
 archive as well as the development of enhancements of this service.
 
 Seems entirely appropriate. Unclear/incorrect documentation is a bug.

Sorry, but I don't get what kind of documentation issue do you find here. 
There's a small Usage section in the front page. Sources and binary 
files are there, so...?

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Re: compile gctwiwax on squeeze

On Mon, 06 Aug 2012 01:10:58 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:

 On Sun, Aug 05, 2012 at 10:12:13AM +, Camaleón wrote:
 On Sun, 05 Aug 2012 10:18:33 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:
  
  A quick google turns up this:
  https://lists.openwrt.org/pipermail/openwrt-devel/2011-October/012503.html
 
 Glad to see you're returning to the common sense side :-)
 
 Huh?, I was indicating how a quick google can more often than not solve,
 or at least, steer you in the right direction without wasting network
 resources.

(...)

Yeah, that's the spirit. Thanks for understanding :-)
 
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Re: find -printf ' %TT

On Sun, 05 Aug 2012 14:01:04 +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote:

 Am Sonntag, 5. August 2012 schrieb Camaleón:
 On Sat, 04 Aug 2012 22:57:55 -0700, Mike McClain wrote:
  Given find / -type f -printf '%TT %p\n'. Gnu find previously
  printed hh:mm:ss for the files modify time but now is printing
  hh:mm:ss.00 for all 33K+ files on my Squeeze system.
  
  The man page still says:
  T  time, 24-hour (hh:mm:ss)
 
 Mmm... man page also says:
 
 Nanosecond-resolution timestamps were implemented in findutils-4.3.3.
 
 Not quite backwards-compatible for scripts parsing the output I´d say ;)

Agree, but changes do (and have to) happen. What I miss is a better 
documentation for the changes and how to get an old behaviour with the 
new version.

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Re: compile gctwiwax on squeeze

On Sun, Aug 05, 2012 at 01:31:07PM +, Camaleón wrote:
 
 Yeah, that's the spirit. Thanks for understanding :-)

No problem. :-)  Now, why did you snip the main part of my post?:

Why are you so worried that people might work out how to help
themselves?

Do you disagree with:
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
http://debian-handbook.info/browse/stable/solving-problems.html

in particular:
http://debian-handbook.info/browse/stable/sect.common-procedures.html#idp9613688


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Re: installing source packages from snapshot.debian.org with apt-get source

On Sun, Aug 05, 2012 at 01:29:10PM +, Camaleón wrote:
 
 Sorry, but I don't get what kind of documentation issue do you find here. 
 There's a small Usage section in the front page. Sources and binary 
 files are there, so...?

Not me, The OP found an issue, ... so ... why can't he bring it up
there?  Entirely appropriate, IMNSVHO.

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Re: the usage :vmlinuz ,initrid.gz in cdrom directory?

On Sun, 05 Aug 2012 12:31:44 +0800, 水静流深 wrote:

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 i can install debian from hard disk ,here is my grub configuration.

You mean you can't, right? :-)

 menuentry 'Debian 6.0 from hard disk' { 
 set isofile=(hd0,6)/debian.iso
 loopback loop $isofile
 linux (hd0,6)/vmlinuz
 initrd (hd0,6)/initrd.gz
 }

It can be that you're missing something. Check out these other examples:

http://askubuntu.com/questions/141940/how-to-boot-live-iso-images

 the two  files  :vmlinuz initrid.gz are in the
 http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/testing/main/installer-i386/current/images/hd-media/
 
 
 
 
 i want to know what is the usage of the files:vmlinuz initrid.gz in the
 http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/testing/main/installer-i386/current/images/cdrom/?

Generally speaking, vmlinuz contains a compressed image of the 
kernel for the CD-ROM ISO installer and initrd.gz is the initial 
ramdisk that allows booting the kernel.

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Re: installing source packages from snapshot.debian.org with apt-get source

On Mon, 06 Aug 2012 02:06:19 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:

 On Sun, Aug 05, 2012 at 01:29:10PM +, Camaleón wrote:
 
 Sorry, but I don't get what kind of documentation issue do you find
 here. There's a small Usage section in the front page. Sources and
 binary files are there, so...?
 
 Not me, The OP found an issue, ... so ... why can't he bring it up
 there?  Entirely appropriate, IMNSVHO.

But you seemed to dissect the issue and found a documentation problem. I 
wonder what info is what you're missing (if any).

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Re: compile gctwiwax on squeeze

On Mon, 06 Aug 2012 01:53:51 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:

 On Sun, Aug 05, 2012 at 01:31:07PM +, Camaleón wrote:
 
 Yeah, that's the spirit. Thanks for understanding :-)
 
 No problem. :-)  Now, why did you snip the main part of my post?:

(...)

Because I read messages in full and reply to what I want to reply.

The rest of your post is available at the mailing list archive, of 
course, no need to keep it ad infinitum and wasting bandwith and hard 
disk space.

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Re: How to setup Java Platform Plugin for Iceweasel 10.0.6

Camaleón noela...@gmail.com writes:

 On Sun, 05 Aug 2012 13:29:42 +0200, Csanyi Pal wrote:

 on my Debian GNU/Linux testing/sid system I have installed Iceweasel
 10.0.6 and
 java version 1.6.0_24
 OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea6 1.11.3) (6b24-1.11.3-2) 
 OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 20.0-b12, mixed mode)
 
 I haven't enabled JAVA in my Iceweasel and don't know how to enable it?

 IIRC you needed the plugin package (icedtea6-plugin). 

 Then you can test if it is working from:

 http://www.java.com/en/download/testjava.jsp

Thank you, it works!

 Note: OpenJDK version 7 is the most up-to-date.

I just installed openjdk-7-jdk but still get java version 1.6:
$ java -version
java version 1.6.0_24

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Re: How to setup Java Platform Plugin for Iceweasel 10.0.6

2012-08-05 Thread Umarzuki Mochlis

2012/8/5 Csanyi Pal csanyi...@gmail.com:


 I just installed openjdk-7-jdk but still get java version 1.6:
 $ java -version
 java version 1.6.0_24


you may need to use update-alternatives for that since now you have 2
versions of them installed

http://alexander.holbreich.org/2011/11/java-7-on-debian/



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Re: Strange network activity after updates

2012-08-05 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh

On Sun, 05 Aug 2012, Camaleón wrote:
 On Sat, 04 Aug 2012 19:48:35 -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
  On Sat, 04 Aug 2012, Camaleón wrote:
 
  I've never read about linux boxes being used as bots, can you please
  indicate any report/stats about that fact?
  
  We've cleaned up a few work.  We are not sure how the payload got in
  (best guess: browser).  I am not allowed to disclose any more data than
  this.
 
 What?! Are you saying you have been tracking (or are aware of) these kind 
 of security flaws which is being actively exploited in Linux but can't 

Hmm... I keep telling you this is nothing new, you just don't believe me.

Ask people who work with large number of Linux desktops in a corporate
network, they will tell you the same thing.  It is *uncommon* (when compared
to attacks against windows), but not unheard of by any means.

 don't know of any malware that can be exploited in that way under the 
 linux ecosystem.

Please update your expectatives.  This has not been true for a long while,
although it is easier to find the proof-of-concept reports than the real
thing.  Not for much longer, though, there are downsides for the increased
popularity of Linux desktops.

 Papers, please. I ask because I'm subscribed to security bulletins and 

I wouldn't know of any released papers, I don't pay much attention to
anything but crypto and communications security in the academic circles.

 This effectively means the malware profited not from an OS vulnerability 
 but a JRE flaw.

Or Adobe Flash flaw, or whatever.  It doesn't matter much in practice, the
end result is a compromised box that needs to be contained and scrubbed
clean.

 First, a server is usually managed by people that knows how this stuff 

This is not true anymore.

 works (thus, care about security and having up-to-date systems, there are 

IME, this is not exactly true, to put it mildly. YMMV.

  Well, that's your prerrogative.  He has already detected weird
  behaviour.  In MY book, that means you consider it compromised until
  further data, and you try to protect yourself and others by keeping it
  contained until you know more.
 
 I wouldn't consider weird behaviour a connection from/to SSDP and 
 Google machines. And while removing the link from the suspicious system 

A continuous stream to SSDP is weird, yes.  Whether it is the result of a
bug or something else, we don't know.  I am still waiting for the packet
dumps.

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Re: How to setup Java Platform Plugin for Iceweasel 10.0.6

Umarzuki Mochlis umarz...@gmail.com writes:

 2012/8/5 Csanyi Pal csanyi...@gmail.com:


 I just installed openjdk-7-jdk but still get java version 1.6:
 $ java -version
 java version 1.6.0_24


 you may need to use update-alternatives for that since now you have 2
 versions of them installed

I did so:
$ sudo update-alternatives --config java

 http://alexander.holbreich.org/2011/11/java-7-on-debian/

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Re: installing source packages from snapshot.debian.org with apt-get source

On Sun, Aug 05, 2012 at 02:32:49PM +, Camaleón wrote:
 On Mon, 06 Aug 2012 02:06:19 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:
  Not me, The OP found an issue, ... so ... why can't he bring it up
  there?  Entirely appropriate, IMNSVHO.
 
 But you seemed to dissect the issue and found a documentation problem. I 
 wonder what info is what you're missing (if any).

I went as far as having a look (as I may need it myself at some stage), 
saw the Usage section which you referred to but that was it, IOW I
haven't tried it.

According to the OP, he did, but it didn't work for him. I noticed there
was a debian-snapshot ML there ..., the rest is history.

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Re: Strange network activity after updates

On Sun, 05 Aug 2012 11:51:53 -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:

 On Sun, 05 Aug 2012, Camaleón wrote:

  We've cleaned up a few work.  We are not sure how the payload got in
  (best guess: browser).  I am not allowed to disclose any more data
  than this.
 
 What?! Are you saying you have been tracking (or are aware of) these
 kind of security flaws which is being actively exploited in Linux but
 can't
 
 Hmm... I keep telling you this is nothing new, you just don't believe
 me.

I'm not a good believer, I prefer a report to read :-)
 
 Ask people who work with large number of Linux desktops in a corporate
 network, they will tell you the same thing.  It is *uncommon* (when
 compared to attacks against windows), but not unheard of by any means.

Again, I work in a business environment and have never read on the 
problem you are telling about. Neither I know of any threat that affects 
linux directly (OS flaw) or indirectly (by third-part addon, like JRE, 
Adobe Reader or Adobe Flash) and that is being exploited with success.

On the contrary, I know that linux servers are being successfully 
attacked on every day basis :-)

 don't know of any malware that can be exploited in that way under the
 linux ecosystem.
 
 Please update your expectatives.  This has not been true for a long
 while, although it is easier to find the proof-of-concept reports than
 the real thing.  Not for much longer, though, there are downsides for
 the increased popularity of Linux desktops.

Yes, I know that linux is not unbreakable but until now I've not seen a 
report about a flaw of that nature. Yes, I know it can be done but far 
from being massively exploitable nor as wide as the windows attacks are. 
That's why I'm very reticent of seeing a linux desktop as a part of a bot 
network.

 Papers, please. I ask because I'm subscribed to security bulletins and
 
 I wouldn't know of any released papers, I don't pay much attention to
 anything but crypto and communications security in the academic circles.

Well, it would be very interesting to know more about the current threats 
affecting linux, don't you think?

 This effectively means the malware profited not from an OS
 vulnerability but a JRE flaw.
 
 Or Adobe Flash flaw, or whatever.  It doesn't matter much in practice,
 the end result is a compromised box that needs to be contained and
 scrubbed clean.

It do matter. It matters a lot. A good OS design can do more for stopping/
avoiding that kind of attacks that a poorly or flawlessly designed OS.

 First, a server is usually managed by people that knows how this stuff
 
 This is not true anymore.

Sure it is. Only a fool company will put in charge of its assets a person 
that only knows about Excel spreadsheets, don't you think?

 works (thus, care about security and having up-to-date systems, there
 are
 
 IME, this is not exactly true, to put it mildly. YMMV.
 
  Well, that's your prerrogative.  He has already detected weird
  behaviour.  In MY book, that means you consider it compromised until
  further data, and you try to protect yourself and others by keeping
  it contained until you know more.
 
 I wouldn't consider weird behaviour a connection from/to SSDP and
 Google machines. And while removing the link from the suspicious
 system
 
 A continuous stream to SSDP is weird, yes.  

That would depend on the run services and what kind of devices the user 
has in his network. Anyway, the mere presence of network traffic on that 
port does not indicate per se a more serious problem, although I indeed 
would worry to see an outgoing connection to a remote server port 
(tcp/80), for instance.

 Whether it is the result of a bug or something else, we don't know.  I
 am still waiting for the packet dumps.

Sure, that's what I said from the beginning: more information is 
needed :-)

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Re: installing source packages from snapshot.debian.org with apt-get source

On Mon, 06 Aug 2012 03:06:25 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:

 On Sun, Aug 05, 2012 at 02:32:49PM +, Camaleón wrote:
 On Mon, 06 Aug 2012 02:06:19 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:
  Not me, The OP found an issue, ... so ... why can't he bring it up
  there?  Entirely appropriate, IMNSVHO.
 
 But you seemed to dissect the issue and found a documentation problem.
 I wonder what info is what you're missing (if any).
 
 I went as far as having a look (as I may need it myself at some stage),
 saw the Usage section which you referred to but that was it, IOW I
 haven't tried it.
 
 According to the OP, he did, but it didn't work for him. I noticed there
 was a debian-snapshot ML there ..., the rest is history.

I don't recall Hugo has said what he tried (exactly) and what was the 
result.

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Could not find gazpacho.loader, it needs to be installed to load the gladefile

Hi,

I need to install the 'gazpacho' package but on my Debian GNU/Linux
testing/sid system I can't to install it.

$ aptitude search gazpacho

gives me no outout, so it seems, on my system gazpacho isn't
installable.

However, I get it as installable:

http://packages.debian.org/sid/gazpacho

How can I solve this problem?

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[1/2OT] soffice and data import

2012-08-05 Thread lina

Hi,

I got a temp file which was generated by paste temp_a temp_b.

The temp file look like:

$ paste temp_a  temp_b
3 1.0   3 1.0
5 2.0   4 2.0
5 3.0

When I used the commend soffice -o temp -calc (This commend was told
by someone from list long time ago, very helpful)

the
5 3.0
jumped to the left rows.

Thanks ahead for any suggestions,

P.S, the only way I come up is to paste temp_b temp_a ; but I have a
series of files, a bit big ones.

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Re: Could not find gazpacho.loader, it needs to be installed to load the gladefile

On Sun, 05 Aug 2012 17:40:09 +0200, Csanyi Pal wrote:

 I need to install the 'gazpacho' package but on my Debian GNU/Linux
 testing/sid system I can't to install it.
 
 $ aptitude search gazpacho
 
 gives me no outout, so it seems, on my system gazpacho isn't
 installable.
 
 However, I get it as installable:
 
 http://packages.debian.org/sid/gazpacho

Mmm... here it says something different, as if the package has been 
removed:

http://packages.qa.debian.org/g/gazpacho.html

 How can I solve this problem?

You can try to get the .deb manually and install it locally, just pray 
there are no hard dependencies or just try with another supported app 
that can load the file :-?

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Re: [1/2OT] soffice and data import

On Sun, 05 Aug 2012 23:49:40 +0800, lina wrote:

 I got a temp file which was generated by paste temp_a temp_b.
 
 The temp file look like:
 
 $ paste temp_a  temp_b
 3 1.0 3 1.0
 5 2.0 4 2.0
   5 3.0
 
 When I used the commend soffice -o temp -calc (This commend was told
 by someone from list long time ago, very helpful)
 
 the
 5 3.0
 jumped to the left rows.

(...)

Have you tried to get a dump with a different separator field (e.g., 
comma ,)? That way you'll get something like:

3,1.0,3,1.0
5,2.0,4,2.0
5,3.0

Which can be processed by oocalc more accurately.

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Re: Could not find gazpacho.loader, it needs to be installed to load the gladefile

Camaleón noela...@gmail.com writes:

 On Sun, 05 Aug 2012 17:40:09 +0200, Csanyi Pal wrote:

 I need to install the 'gazpacho' package but on my Debian GNU/Linux
 testing/sid system I can't to install it.
 
 $ aptitude search gazpacho
 
 gives me no outout, so it seems, on my system gazpacho isn't
 installable.
 
 However, I get it as installable:
 
 http://packages.debian.org/sid/gazpacho

 Mmm... here it says something different, as if the package has been 
 removed:

 http://packages.qa.debian.org/g/gazpacho.html

Indeed.

 How can I solve this problem?

 You can try to get the .deb manually and install it locally, just pray 
 there are no hard dependencies or just try with another supported app 
 that can load the file :-?

That depends on the application that call the gazpacho:

$ python person.py 

18:18:49 environ  No hu_HU translation found for domain kiwi
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File person.py, line 14, in module
delete_handler=gtk.main_quit)
  File /usr/lib/pymodules/python2.7/kiwi/ui/delegates.py, line 134, in
  __init__ delete_handler)
  File /usr/lib/pymodules/python2.7/kiwi/ui/views.py, line 833, in
  __init__ domain)
  File /usr/lib/pymodules/python2.7/kiwi/ui/views.py, line 243, in __init__
self._glade_adaptor = self.get_glade_adaptor()
  File /usr/lib/pymodules/python2.7/kiwi/ui/views.py, line 851, in
  get_glade_adaptor return _open_glade(self, self.gladefile, self.domain)
  File /usr/lib/pymodules/python2.7/kiwi/ui/views.py, line 1015, in
  _open_glade load the gladefile %s % (loader_name, gladefile))
RuntimeError: Could not find gazpacho.loader, it needs to be installed
to load the gladefile
/usr/share/doc/python-kiwi/examples/framework/person/Person.glade 

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Re: Could not find gazpacho.loader, it needs to be installed to load the gladefile

On Sun, 05 Aug 2012 18:19:56 +0200, Csanyi Pal wrote:

 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com writes:

 You can try to get the .deb manually and install it locally, just
 pray there are no hard dependencies or just try with another supported
 app that can load the file :-?
 
 That depends on the application that call the gazpacho:
 
 $ python person.py
(...)
 RuntimeError: Could not find gazpacho.loader, it needs to be installed
 to load the gladefile
 /usr/share/doc/python-kiwi/examples/framework/person/Person.glade

Similar to this:

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=470942

Geez. Try to contact the person in charge of that python app and tell 
about this or just drink¹ (install) the old gazpacho package to bypass 
the warning.

¹Gazpacho is a typical Spanish meal (kinda soup).

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Re: [OT] Who's interested in project management collaboration tools? And...

2012-08-05 Thread Tony Baldwin

On Sat, Aug 04, 2012 at 09:28:13PM -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote:
  where are they and how do I get their attention?
 
 Hi Folks,
 
 Open source software development involves a lot of distributed
 collaboration - and I expect that many folks here, like me, are
 involved in one or more projects, and dealing with all kinds of
 project management administrivia.  So.. I wonder if I might solicit
 opinions

I think project management means different things to different people.
I find that 0 (zero, none, nada) of project management applications meet my
needs as owner of a small language services provider (translation
agency), for instance.
They all seem overly complex and unadapted to my particular needs while
managing translation projects.
I've started writing a translation project management platform, myself, 
in php/mysql. http://tonyb.us/transprocloud

 
 I've been working on some open source software to support virtual teams
 and projects - putting some of the experiences and techniques I've
 acquired over the years into code - and I'm trying to gather some
 support via Kickstarter.
 

I imagine if I put my project up on kickstarter, I would get exactly 0
(zero, none, nada) support, too.


 The thing is, I'm having a very hard time getting people to even visit
 the project's web page - so far, only about 300 people have visited the
 Kickstarter page, despite some serious attempts to spread the word
 across various email lists, twitter, and so forth.

Nobody cares about project management platforms, except people who
write them, I'm starting to believe.

 
 It's one thing if people were looking at the page and not contributing,
 but I can't even seem to get people's attention - which suggestions one
 or more of four things:
 
 - nobody cares about project management 

BINGO! WE HAVE A WINNER!

 (I hope this isn't the case - I
 know administrivia isn't sexy, but an awful lot of people are working on
 an awful lot of projects, and getting buried in mountains of paper,
 email, phone calls, texts, meetings, and yellow stickies.  I sure know
 that I'm always looking for ways to declutter that side of my life)
 
 - I'm not reaching people who care.
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Re: [OT] Who's interested in project management collaboration tools? And...

On Sat, Aug 04, 2012 at 09:28:13PM -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote:
 So... I'd really welcome any feedback on the questions who cares about
 project management  collaboration tools, how to reach them, and what
 might motivate them enough to take a look at what I'm doing?

Instead of motivation think inspiration.

Maybe people who already need that sort of thing already have it, and
don't need to look further. I'm thinking gantt charts, pert charts etc.

AIUI, a lot of project management is done using a whiteboard, diary,
phone etc.

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Re: Problems with open source ati driver

2012-08-05 Thread Adrian Fita

On 05/08/12 15:42, Petr Voralek wrote:
Hello!
 
On 08/05/2012 12:10 PM, *Adrian Fita* wrote, and I quote (in part):
 
 The best solution that I found was to downgrade to xorg 1.11 and hold
 the packages from upgrading so I can use the fglrx driver. Some
 instructions on how to do the downgrade[2].
 
   Another option is to use fglrx-legacy (packages are now in the
 experimental repository) together with the current version of xorg, as I
 do it on my TP W500 (but this solution is probably only suitable for
 mixed (testing/unstable+experimental, or unstable+experimental) systems)...
 
 EDIT: I apologize for the private message -- news server did not allow
 me write to linux.debian.user, though I are logged into the conference
 via http://lists.bofh.it/options/linux-gate

Nice. Thanks for letting me know. I'll wait for them to enter testing
and then I'll make the change to the latest xorg. Until then I'm holding
up with xorg 1.11.

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Re: find -printf ' %TT

2012-08-05 Thread Mike McClain

Thanks Sven.
On Sun, Aug 05, 2012 at 08:33:54AM +0200, Sven Joachim wrote:
 On 2012-08-05 07:57 +0200, Mike McClain wrote:
snip 
  Given find / -type f -printf '%TT %p\n'.
snip 
  Is there a way to get back the hh:mm:ss output as it used to be short
  of piping the output through sed 's/.00//'?
 
 Use %.8TT instead.  

That's so obvious I'm embarrassed but I'll use it.

 The sed command won't work anyway if the filesystem
 supports high resolution timestamps.

I can't see that, how is the filesystem support going to affect sed?

Thanks again, that's the help I needed.
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Re: Problems with open source ati driver

2012-08-05 Thread Adrian Fita

On 05/08/12 18:39, John Kapnogiannis wrote:
 On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 1:36 PM, John Kapnogiannis smokej...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 1:03 PM, Adrian Fita adrian.f...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 05/08/12 11:59, John Kapnogiannis wrote:

 [...]

 My problem on all this is that after a while my laptop starts to gain
 high temperature leading to a complete cut of power. Suppose this is a
 failsafe method for it to avoid permanent damage. I have searched but
 I have found no solution. Any help?

 This is an old issue with the open source xorg radeon driver. See
 here[1] a bug report.

  [1]: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36438

 The best solution that I found was to downgrade to xorg 1.11 and hold
 the packages from upgrading so I can use the fglrx driver. Some
 instructions on how to do the downgrade[2].

  [2]: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2012/07/msg00647.html

 --
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 I think downgrading the xorg is not a solution. Sometime you will have
 to upgrade. I will try out the setting the power managment profile to
 low and report back. :) Thanks
 
 The low profile seems to keep the laptop on a temperature that it
 doesnt need to shut off.
 It is still hot though :P Now the only thing that I must fix is KDM not 
 loading

Yes, I also tried the low power profile and while it helped to bring the
temperature down, it wasn't low enough to cause the fan to stop spinning
like with the fglrx proprietary driver, so I decided to keep the old
fglrx driver for now.

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Re: How to setup Java Platform Plugin for Iceweasel 10.0.6

On Sun, 05 Aug 2012 16:55:37 +0200, Csanyi Pal wrote:

 Umarzuki Mochlis umarz...@gmail.com writes:
 
 2012/8/5 Csanyi Pal csanyi...@gmail.com:


 I just installed openjdk-7-jdk but still get java version 1.6: $ java
 -version
 java version 1.6.0_24


 you may need to use update-alternatives for that since now you have 2
 versions of them installed
 
 I did so:
 $ sudo update-alternatives --config java
 
 http://alexander.holbreich.org/2011/11/java-7-on-debian/

That was indeed the way to go.

Strange is that after having installed openjdk v7 in last place it is not 
being selected automatically as the default version; that's what I would 
have expected (→ last wins) but seems that not :-?

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Re: Something about netiquette Re: systemd

2012-08-05 Thread Mika Suomalainen

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On 05.08.2012 15:20, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
 You know why so many people don't use Linux? Linux doesn't run for
 most stupid users, but Windows does. It's stuff like pulseaudio
 that is the showstopper.

I have understood that the problem with most basic users is that most
of (commercial) computer games are made for Windows. How many games
made for Linux have you seen at some store?

I have one computer running Debian Sid + systemd + pulseaudio without
any problems.

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Re: installing source packages from snapshot.debian.org with apt-get source

2012-08-05 Thread hvw59601

Camaleón wrote:

On Sat, 04 Aug 2012 16:38:29 -0500, hvw59601 wrote:

Camaleón wrote:

On Sat, 04 Aug 2012 16:02:12 -0500, hvw59601 wrote:

I want to do the installs with apt-get source.

How does one do this? Specifically, what should the sources.list say?

Does this help?

http://snapshot.debian.org/

Hint: Usage section :-)

I looked at that but the examples of the deb entries they give are
nothing like where the linux source files are.

Uh? :-?

Have you tried with the recommended steps?

Let's see how I see it. You said you wanted to install a bunch of source
kernel packages. So, let's take the first one:

http://snapshot.debian.org/package/linux/3.2.20-1~bpo60%2B1/

Which points to:

http://snapshot.debian.org/archive/debian-backports/20120629T195518Z/pool/main/l/linux/linux_3.2.20-1%7Ebpo60%2B1.debian.tar.xz

So given that URI and back to the Usage hints, I would add to the
sources-list:

deb-src http://snapshot.debian.org/archive/debian-backports/20120629T195518Z/
stable main

(adjust stable to fit your current flavour)

Anyway, you can also get the single .deb binary and install it or fetch
the source to compile the kernel and make your own changes.

Yep, that's it and then 'apt-get source linux'.
I then make the deb-src the only one in the sources.list.
Thanks Camaléon.

Hugo

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Re: find -printf ' %TT

2012-08-05 Thread Sven Joachim

On 2012-08-05 18:33 +0200, Mike McClain wrote:

 Thanks Sven.
 On Sun, Aug 05, 2012 at 08:33:54AM +0200, Sven Joachim wrote:
 On 2012-08-05 07:57 +0200, Mike McClain wrote:
 snip 
  Given find / -type f -printf '%TT %p\n'.
 snip 
  Is there a way to get back the hh:mm:ss output as it used to be short
  of piping the output through sed 's/.00//'?
 
 Use %.8TT instead.  

 That's so obvious I'm embarrassed but I'll use it.

 The sed command won't work anyway if the filesystem
 supports high resolution timestamps.

 I can't see that, how is the filesystem support going to affect sed?

The numbers after the seconds won't be all zeros then.

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Re: installing source packages from snapshot.debian.org with apt-get source

On Sun, Aug 05, 2012 at 03:23:04PM +, Camaleón wrote:
 I don't recall Hugo has said what he tried (exactly) and what was the 
 result.

Really? 
http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2012/08/msg00310.html

Seems like problem solved?

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Re: Strange network activity after updates

2012-08-05 Thread John L. Cunningham

On Sun, Aug 05, 2012 at 03:20:01PM +, Camaleón wrote:
 On Sun, 05 Aug 2012 11:51:53 -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
  On Sun, 05 Aug 2012, Camaleón wrote:
  First, a server is usually managed by people that knows how this stuff
  
  This is not true anymore.
 
 Sure it is. Only a fool company will put in charge of its assets a person 
 that only knows about Excel spreadsheets, don't you think?

It's not like we have a shortage of fool companies. ;)


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Re: Something about netiquette Re: systemd

2012-08-05 Thread Dom


On 05/08/12 18:13, Mika Suomalainen wrote:

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On 05.08.2012 15:20, Ralf Mardorf wrote:

You know why so many people don't use Linux? Linux doesn't run for
most stupid users, but Windows does. It's stuff like pulseaudio
that is the showstopper.


I have understood that the problem with most basic users is that most
of (commercial) computer games are made for Windows. How many games
made for Linux have you seen at some store?


Maybe that will change now that Valve are starting to port all their 
games to Linux platforms.


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Re: How to setup Java Platform Plugin for Iceweasel 10.0.6

Camaleón noela...@gmail.com writes:

 On Sun, 05 Aug 2012 16:55:37 +0200, Csanyi Pal wrote:

 Umarzuki Mochlis umarz...@gmail.com writes:
 
 2012/8/5 Csanyi Pal csanyi...@gmail.com:


 I just installed openjdk-7-jdk but still get java version 1.6: $ java
 -version
 java version 1.6.0_24


 you may need to use update-alternatives for that since now you have 2
 versions of them installed
 
 I did so:
 $ sudo update-alternatives --config java
 
 http://alexander.holbreich.org/2011/11/java-7-on-debian/

 That was indeed the way to go.

 Strange is that after having installed openjdk v7 in last place it is not 
 being selected automatically as the default version; that's what I would 
 have expected (→ last wins) but seems that not :-?

I have now this:

$ sudo update-alternatives --config java
There are 2 choices for the alternative java (providing /usr/bin/java).

  Selection Path   Priority   Status

  0  /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk-amd64/jre/bin/java  1061 auto mode
  1  /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk-amd64/jre/bin/java  1061 manual mode
* 2  /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-amd64/jre/bin/java  1051 manual mode

Press enter to keep the current choice[*], or type selection number:

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Re: Something about netiquette Re: systemd

On Sun, 2012-08-05 at 20:13 +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote:
 On 05.08.2012 15:20, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
  You know why so many people don't use Linux? Linux doesn't run for
  most stupid users, but Windows does. It's stuff like pulseaudio
  that is the showstopper.
 
 I have understood that the problem with most basic users is that most
 of (commercial) computer games are made for Windows. How many games
 made for Linux have you seen at some store?

I don't take care for computer games. I don't know anybody in my age who
could answer your question.

 I have one computer running Debian Sid + systemd + pulseaudio without
 any problems.

I'm serious, AFAIK I only know users that completely are uninterested in
games. In Germany it was common to test Linux with Suse, today most
people in Germany use Ubuntu to test Linux. On most machines neither
Suse, nor Ubuntu will start after installing it, the same people have no
issues to install Windows, to maintain Windows and even to program
applications for Windows. I don't know what they made wrong, when they
installed Suse and Ubuntu, but I know that if Linux once is running,
they run into issues with e.g. pulseaudio and of course X.

Regards,
Ralf


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usb0 and making it available to guest OS

Sorry for the long post.

I have a Debian Testing machine, fully update, using VirtualBox (VBox)
with Windows XP installed as a guest OS.

$ uname -a
Linux red 3.2.0-2-amd64 #1 SMP Sun Apr 15 16:47:38 UTC 2012 x86_64 GNU/Linux

I am trying to access a USB device from with the guest OS, XP, after
connecting it to a USB port on the machine.

I have listed the USB device in the VBox's USB settings and checked it
to make it available to the guest OS.

I even got this arrangement to work a few times, however, I am having
difficulty getting it work consistently. Here is what is happening.

Debian Testing has a fixed IP address. While I have the guest OS, XP,
running, I connect the usb device to the Debian machine. It is seen as a
networking device by Debian as usb0. Windows XP beeps as if it has
seen the USB device as well, but after that does nothing.

Debian does create a usb0 networking device though. Just that Windows XP
doesn't appear to know anything about it.

Now, after I reconnect the USB again, it doesn't do anything else, it is
as if Debian's auto-detection is all gone. What script do I need to
restart to get the detection working again without having to reboot?

I realize I am not giving any specific information, becuase I am not
sure what I am looking for here yet. Any idea may help to focus on the
right spot.

Thanks.


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Re: usb0 and making it available to guest OS

On Sun, 2012-08-05 at 17:24 -0400, H.S. wrote:
 I have a Debian Testing machine, fully update, using VirtualBox (VBox)
 with Windows XP installed as a guest OS.

I'm using VBox + XP guest on Arch Linux, so the VBox versions might
differ.

1. I experienced that adding virtualbox-ext-oracle can improve USB
issues. Dunno if there's a Debian package available, if necessary.
http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=44761

2. When I sync my iPad 2 to iTunes running on the guest XP, I can't use
my favorite USB slot, with the connected extension cable. The cable
length and the slot are ok, they're working for all kinds of devices as
long as I use Linux and not the guest XP + the iPad. When using the
extremely short iPad's cable only (tested with two different other USB
slots), then syncing the iPad does work.

Hth,
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Re (4): Display on IBM ThinkPad A22m

2012-08-05 Thread peasthope

*   From: Henrique de Moraes Holschuh h...@debian.org
*   Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:11:20 -0300
 Contact him directly, it is probably the only way.

For anyone else interested in the r128 this is Connor's 
reply.

 ... radeon driver as of 2005 had a lot of obsolete code for mode
 validation. I assume this code is still in r128. At some time between
 2005 and 2012 when UMS was dropped, radeon got switched over to a
 different type of UMS that used functions in the X server that are more
 correct. Fixing this sounds like quite a project.
 ...
 I'm pretty sure the problem has been solved for UMS and KMS. It's just
 that the KMS solution in the current radeon driver wouldn't be
 applicable to r128 unless we also edit the r128 kernel module to support
 KMS (something I hope to do eventually). Radeon has seen a progression
 from old UMS code - new UMS code - KMS while r128 is still stuck
 with old UMS code. Getting it to use new UMS code seems like the more
 realistic thing to do. And if I learn a decent amount of stuff from that
 effort, I might know enough to try KMS after.

So in some aspects, r128 is significantly outdated; there is plenty of work  
for anyone interested.  Meanwhile a working VESA driver could be better than 
broken other driver.

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Re: usb0 and making it available to guest OS

On 08/05/2012 05:43 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:

 
 I'm using VBox + XP guest on Arch Linux, so the VBox versions might
 differ.
 
 1. I experienced that adding virtualbox-ext-oracle can improve USB
 issues. Dunno if there's a Debian package available, if necessary.
 http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=44761

Got the extensions installed with the same number as my VBox. Earlier, I
had the 4.1.14 extension pack, now it is same as my VBox version: 4.1.18.

However, now when I connect my USB device, it doesn't trigger anything
in the /var/log. What service or init.d script do I need to restart to
make the system behave again? Otherwise, I might just restart the
machine to reset it.


 2. When I sync my iPad 2 to iTunes running on the guest XP, I can't use
 my favorite USB slot, with the connected extension cable. The cable
 length and the slot are ok, they're working for all kinds of devices as
 long as I use Linux and not the guest XP + the iPad. When using the
 extremely short iPad's cable only (tested with two different other USB
 slots), then syncing the iPad does work.

Usually, if I am in doubt that a USB port may matter, I juse one from
the main board of the machine (from its rear) instead of the slots in
the front ... and that is the precaution I am taking now too.

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Re: usb0 and making it available to guest OS

On Sun, 2012-08-05 at 18:02 -0400, H.S. wrote:
 Got the extensions installed with the same number as my VBox. Earlier, I
 had the 4.1.14 extension pack, now it is same as my VBox version: 4.1.18.

On Arch I've got installed:
virtualbox 4.1.18-4, virtualbox-modules 4.1.18-4 virtualbox-ext-oracle
4.1.18-1. The XP isn't pro, I simply installed the normal thgingy +
SP2, not SP3. FWIW USB 2 not USB 3.

 
 However, now when I connect my USB device, it doesn't trigger anything
 in the /var/log. What service or init.d script do I need to restart to
 make the system behave again? Otherwise, I might just restart the
 machine to reset it.
 
 
  2. When I sync my iPad 2 to iTunes running on the guest XP, I can't use
  my favorite USB slot, with the connected extension cable. The cable
  length and the slot are ok, they're working for all kinds of devices as
  long as I use Linux and not the guest XP + the iPad. When using the
  extremely short iPad's cable only (tested with two different other USB
  slots), then syncing the iPad does work.
 
 Usually, if I am in doubt that a USB port may matter, I juse one from
 the main board of the machine (from its rear) instead of the slots in
 the front ... and that is the precaution I am taking now too.

;D

I don't have slots in front, that's why I have one slot with a short
extension cable.
Btw. before I used ADSL, I used ISDN and several long USB cables to
connect the computer to the ISDN box. By theory those extension cables
were much to long for USB, but in the field there were no issues.
However, VBox is known for USB issues and I should have tested the
extreme short USB cable some month earlier.

Good luck!
Ralf


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Re: usb0 and making it available to guest OS

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 On Sun, 2012-08-05 at 18:02 -0400, H.S. wrote:
  Otherwise, I might just restart the machine to reset it.

Sorry, I forgot to shorten the text and to reply to this. Because so
much is involved, the host and guest, a restart IMO is a good idea.


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Re: usb0 and making it available to guest OS

On 08/05/2012 06:20 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
 
 Sorry, I forgot to shorten the text and to reply to this. Because so
 much is involved, the host and guest, a restart IMO is a good idea.
 
 

Alright, just restarted the whole machine. What is happening now is the
following (or so it seems to be from the log, pasted further below):
1. Usbcore sees teh device.
2. It disconnects it or unmanages it because? Looks like because
VBox is capturing the device.
3. Network manager gets involved and gets a dhcp address from the USB
device.
4. A usb0 is created nevertheless (if the usb0 device was captured by
the guest OS, should it still result in a usb0 in the host?).


Here is the log in all its glory:
==
Aug  5 18:21:06 red kernel: [  161.617943] warning: `VirtualBox' uses
32-bit capabilities (legacy support in use)
Aug  5 18:23:19 red kernel: [  294.540051] usb 1-2: new high-speed USB
device number 3 using ehci_hcd
Aug  5 18:23:19 red kernel: [  294.673387] usb 1-2: New USB device
found, idVendor=1390, idProduct=5454
Aug  5 18:23:19 red kernel: [  294.673398] usb 1-2: New USB device
strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3
Aug  5 18:23:19 red kernel: [  294.673406] usb 1-2: Product: TomTom
Aug  5 18:23:19 red kernel: [  294.673411] usb 1-2: Manufacturer: Linux
2.6.28.10 with dwc_otg_pcd
Aug  5 18:23:19 red kernel: [  294.673416] usb 1-2: SerialNumber:
BMXY
Aug  5 18:23:19 red mtp-probe: checking bus 1, device 3:
/sys/devices/pci:00/:00:12.2/usb1/1-2
Aug  5 18:23:19 red mtp-probe: bus: 1, device: 3 was not an MTP device
Aug  5 18:23:19 red kernel: [  294.776315] cdc_ether 1-2:1.0: usb0:
register 'cdc_ether' at usb-:00:12.2-2, CDC Ethernet Device,
02:04:06:08:0a:0c
Aug  5 18:23:19 red kernel: [  294.776575] usbcore: registered new
interface driver cdc_ether
Aug  5 18:23:19 red NetworkManager[2020]:SCPlugin-Ifupdown: devices
added (path:
/sys/devices/pci:00/:00:12.2/usb1/1-2/1-2:1.0/net/usb0, iface: usb0)
Aug  5 18:23:19 red NetworkManager[2020]:SCPlugin-Ifupdown: device
added (path:
/sys/devices/pci:00/:00:12.2/usb1/1-2/1-2:1.0/net/usb0, iface:
usb0): no ifupdown configuration found.
Aug  5 18:23:19 red NetworkManager[2020]: warn failed to allocate link
cache: (-10) Operation not supported
Aug  5 18:23:19 red NetworkManager[2020]: info (usb0): carrier is OFF
Aug  5 18:23:19 red NetworkManager[2020]: error [1344205399.322526]
[nm-device-ethernet.c:456] real_update_permanent_hw_address(): (usb0):
unable to read permanent MAC address (error 0)
Aug  5 18:23:19 red NetworkManager[2020]: info (usb0): new Ethernet
device (driver: 'cdc_ether' ifindex: 3)
Aug  5 18:23:19 red NetworkManager[2020]: info (usb0): exported as
/org/freedesktop/NetworkManager/Devices/1
Aug  5 18:23:19 red NetworkManager[2020]: info (usb0): now managed
Aug  5 18:23:19 red NetworkManager[2020]: info (usb0): device state
change: unmanaged - unavailable (reason 'managed') [10 20 2]
Aug  5 18:23:19 red NetworkManager[2020]: info (usb0): bringing up device.
Aug  5 18:23:19 red NetworkManager[2020]: info (usb0): carrier now ON
(device state 20)
Aug  5 18:23:19 red NetworkManager[2020]: info (usb0): preparing device.
Aug  5 18:23:19 red NetworkManager[2020]: info (usb0): deactivating
device (reason 'managed') [2]
Aug  5 18:23:19 red NetworkManager[2020]: info Added default wired
connection 'Wired connection 1' for
/sys/devices/pci:00/:00:12.2/usb1/1-2/1-2:1.0/net/usb0
Aug  5 18:23:19 red NetworkManager[2020]: info (usb0): device state
change: unavailable - disconnected (reason 'none') [20 30 0]
Aug  5 18:23:19 red NetworkManager[2020]: info Auto-activating
connection 'Wired connection 1'.
Aug  5 18:23:19 red NetworkManager[2020]: info Activation (usb0)
starting connection 'Wired connection 1'
Aug  5 18:23:19 red NetworkManager[2020]: info (usb0): device state
change: disconnected - prepare (reason 'none') [30 40 0]
Aug  5 18:23:19 red NetworkManager[2020]: info Activation (usb0) Stage
1 of 5 (Device Prepare) scheduled...
Aug  5 18:23:19 red NetworkManager[2020]: info Activation (usb0) Stage
1 of 5 (Device Prepare) started...
Aug  5 18:23:19 red NetworkManager[2020]: info Activation (usb0) Stage
2 of 5 (Device Configure) scheduled...
Aug  5 18:23:19 red NetworkManager[2020]: info Activation (usb0) Stage
1 of 5 (Device Prepare) complete.
Aug  5 18:23:19 red NetworkManager[2020]: info Activation (usb0) Stage
2 of 5 (Device Configure) starting...
Aug  5 18:23:19 red NetworkManager[2020]: info (usb0): device state
change: prepare - config (reason 'none') [40 50 0]
Aug  5 18:23:19 red NetworkManager[2020]: info Activation (usb0) Stage
2 of 5 (Device Configure) successful.
Aug  5 18:23:19 red NetworkManager[2020]: info Activation (usb0) Stage
3 of 5 (IP Configure Start) scheduled.
Aug  5 18:23:19 red NetworkManager[2020]: info Activation (usb0) Stage
2 of 5 (Device Configure) complete.
Aug  5 18:23:19 red NetworkManager[2020]: info (usb0): carrier now OFF

Re: usb0 and making it available to guest OS

2012-08-05 Thread Siard

H.S. wrote:
 I have a Debian Testing machine, fully update, using VirtualBox (VBox)
 with Windows XP installed as a guest OS.
 
 I am trying to access a USB device from with the guest OS, XP, after
 connecting it to a USB port on the machine.

By default, this line below does not exist in /etc/fstab any more,
because it is deprecated.
But I found that VirtualBox still needs it for USB, so you could add it
and leave it there as long as necessary.

usbfs  /proc/bus/usb   usbfs   defaults,devmode=666  0  0


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Re: usb0 and making it available to guest OS

On Sun, 2012-08-05 at 18:33 -0400, H.S. wrote:
 Alright, just restarted the whole machine. What is happening now is the
 following (or so it seems to be from the log, pasted further below):
 1. Usbcore sees teh device.
 2. It disconnects it or unmanages it because? Looks like because
 VBox is capturing the device.
 3. Network manager gets involved and gets a dhcp address from the USB
 device.
 4. A usb0 is created nevertheless (if the usb0 device was captured by
 the guest OS, should it still result in a usb0 in the host?).

I don't know.

Why do you wish to use the USB network device by the guest?
I've got an ADSL PPPoE device and VBox settings are Attached to NAT
for the enabled network, resp. PCnet-FAST III (NAT).
I noticed that for USB there are the shadowed options Enable USB
controller and Enable USB 2.0 (EHCI) controller. On my machine only
Enable USB controller is checked.

Regards,
Ralf


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Re: usb0 and making it available to guest OS

On Mon, 2012-08-06 at 00:58 +0200, Siard wrote:
 usbfs  /proc/bus/usb   usbfs   defaults,devmode=666  0  0

It can't harm to test it. FWIW I don't have any USB entry in my fstab.

Regards,
Ralf


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Re: [OT] Who's interested in project management collaboration tools? And...

2012-08-05 Thread Miles Fidelman


Chris Bannister wrote:

On Sat, Aug 04, 2012 at 09:28:13PM -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote:

So... I'd really welcome any feedback on the questions who cares about
project management  collaboration tools, how to reach them, and what
might motivate them enough to take a look at what I'm doing?

Instead of motivation think inspiration.


Good point.

Maybe people who already need that sort of thing already have it, and
don't need to look further. I'm thinking gantt charts, pert charts etc.

AIUI, a lot of project management is done using a whiteboard, diary,
phone etc.



That's exactly what I've found over the years, and what inspires this 
project.  It's really easy to manage a project when everybody can get 
together around a whiteboard every few days.  As soon as people are 
spread across the net, it becomes a lot harder to do something as simple 
as maintain an action item list.  It turns into:


a. send it out by email, immediately followed by 100s of messages 
containing questions and answers, details, updates,  - which have to 
be reassembled manually, or,


b. put the list on a wiki page, a google doc, or a google spreadsheet, 
and deal with managing a host or relying on a service provider (and not 
being able to work offline, or make private notes on your copy of the list)


What I'd really like to have is something as simple as linked 
spreadsheets - but where the links actually work across the net, and 
aren't tied to MS Office.  Basically, an action item list, stored as a 
local file, accessed through a browser, that syncs with copies across 
the net with a peer-to-peer protocol.  That would solve 95% of my 
project management needs, and provide a platform that could be built on 
(like spreadsheet templates).


But.. how to make this message crystal clear, and put it in front of 
people who care... that's a challenge completely separate from writing 
the code.  Sigh...


Cheers,

Miles




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Re: usb0 and making it available to guest OS

On 08/05/2012 07:01 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
 On Sun, 2012-08-05 at 18:33 -0400, H.S. wrote:
 Alright, just restarted the whole machine. What is happening now is the
 following (or so it seems to be from the log, pasted further below):
 1. Usbcore sees teh device.
 2. It disconnects it or unmanages it because? Looks like because
 VBox is capturing the device.
 3. Network manager gets involved and gets a dhcp address from the USB
 device.
 4. A usb0 is created nevertheless (if the usb0 device was captured by
 the guest OS, should it still result in a usb0 in the host?).
 
 I don't know.
 
 Why do you wish to use the USB network device by the guest?

This is a Via 1535 Tomtom. It uses an application in Windows to install
all its updates on the device. I use Linux at home and am trying to make
work through a Windows VM.

The Tomtom device makes itself a network device, not sure why.

Regards.


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Re: usb0 and making it available to guest OS

On Sun, 2012-08-05 at 19:16 -0400, H.S. wrote:
 On 08/05/2012 07:01 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
  On Sun, 2012-08-05 at 18:33 -0400, H.S. wrote:
  Alright, just restarted the whole machine. What is happening now is the
  following (or so it seems to be from the log, pasted further below):
  1. Usbcore sees teh device.
  2. It disconnects it or unmanages it because? Looks like because
  VBox is capturing the device.
  3. Network manager gets involved and gets a dhcp address from the USB
  device.
  4. A usb0 is created nevertheless (if the usb0 device was captured by
  the guest OS, should it still result in a usb0 in the host?).
  
  I don't know.
  
  Why do you wish to use the USB network device by the guest?
 
 This is a Via 1535 Tomtom. It uses an application in Windows to install
 all its updates on the device. I use Linux at home and am trying to make
 work through a Windows VM.
 
 The Tomtom device makes itself a network device, not sure why.

Ok. Did you test if this software runs on wine, before you used VBox?
I'm in a similar situation as you are, but before I installed VBox and
XP as guest, I tried to use iTunes with wine.
Your last resort is to bite the bullet by installing XP to your machine.
I heard that it should be possible to install XP on any partition, there
shouldn't be the need to install it on a primary partition, but perhaps
this depends to the used Windows, a crack or a licensed version, perhaps
what edition of XP is used. I never noticed that there is a choice, on
what partition it should be installed. If you should install XP, don't
forget to backup at least the MBR.

Regards,
Ralf


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Re: usb0 and making it available to guest OS