OT: Oberta la inscripció al curs pràctic d'introducció a Perl (10 novembre)
El proper 10 de novembre els Perl Mongers de Barcelona organitzem un curs pràctic d'introducció a Perl. El curs està dirigit a tots aquells que tinguin coneixements de programació però que no hagin programat mai en Perl o hagin programat poc. Si teniu curiositat pel llenguatge i voleu aprendre’n les bases el curs és una bona oportunitat per fer un tast. Les inscripcions ja estan obertes, les places són limitades i s’assignen per ordre de pagament. Les entrades anticipades, disponibles fins dilluns 5 de novembre, valen 25€. Aprofiteu el descompte! Teniu tota la informació del temari, el lloc i les inscripcions a la pàgina oficial del curs (curs.perl.cat). També podeu seguir les novetats a @cursperl i @barcelonapm. Salut i Perl -- Organització del Curs de Perl http://curs.perl.cat/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-catalan-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAHX6jZE-93-M6wW4+x5t+SDpqq3hCWcJe7RmBwRDZxTTZam=x...@mail.gmail.com
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Re: Connexion ssh : timed out
Le mercredi 31 octobre 2012 17:23:19, Bzzz a écrit : On Wed, 31 Oct 2012 16:45:53 +0100 Eddy F. edfnet-...@yahoo.fr wrote: Je crois de plus en plus que le problème est lié à la box (configuration ou bug ou...). Apparemment pas du tout au vu de la réponse de Jean-Luc, En fait probablement que si mais... pas de la box du serveur ! purge et réinstalle le client ssh. Ah ben non. Ce n'est pas du jeux ! Plus sérieusement, je ne vois pas ce que cela apporterait. S'il y avait un problème de configuration du client, apt-get purge ne supprimerait pas les problèmes de configuration dus à ~/.ssh Par contre il réinstallerait à l'identique la configuration de /etc/ssh/ ; cette configuration n'ayant pas été modifiée depuis l'installation (ça j'en suis sûr), on se retrouverait exactement au même point. -- E. Flas ~~~ Citation aléatoire ~~~ Everything that can be counted does not necessarily count; everything that counts cannot necessarily be counted. (A. Einstein) -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201211011616.23522.flas.c...@gmail.com
Re: Connexion ssh : timed out
Le mercredi 31 octobre 2012 17:41:37, Bernard Schoenacker a écrit :
bonjour,
tous les intervenant foncent tête baissée ...
tester pam ?
apt-cache policy $(apt-cache search pam ssh |awk '/SSH/ {print
$1}')
libpam-sshauth:
Installé : (aucun)
Candidat : 0.1-1
Table de version :
0.1-1 0
500 http://ftp.debian.skynet.be/ftp/debian/ wheezy/main amd64
Packages
À mon avis aucun problème si libpam-sshauth n'est pas installé.
ensuite, quelles sont les versions installées concernant
ssh client et serveur ?
Pour le serveur, openssh-server d'une wheezy à jour donc 1:6.0p1-3.
Pour le client, j'ai testé avec deux clients différents :
openssh-client sur une autre machine wheezy à jour donc aussi version
1:6.0p1-3
et un client fourni par un app android (ConnectBot 1.7.1) sur un
smartphone.
slt
bernard
Merci de tes suggestions mais le problème s'avère finalement sur le
*réseau* où les clients se connectaient pour faire les tests. Je
résume cela dans un autre message.
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[Résolu et HS] Connexion ssh : timed out
Le mercredi 31 octobre 2012 16:57:12, Jean-Luc Bassereau a écrit : Le Wed, 31 Oct 2012 14:04:50 +0100 Eddy F. edfnet-...@yahoo.fr a écrit : Le mercredi 31 octobre 2012 13:32:58, Sébastien NOBILI a écrit : Bonjour, Le mercredi 31 octobre 2012 à 13:17, Eddy F. a écrit : Avez-vous un avis sur ma configuration ? Merci Elle me paraît pas mal… As-tu configuré le NAT sur ton modem ? As-tu des règles de filtrage iptables sur ta machine ? Seb Merci. En ce qui concerne le modem, il me semble que j'ai tout essayé. J'ai effectivement configuré le nat pour rediriger le port 22 TCP vers la machine locale (qui reçoit une adresse IP locale statique du serveur DHCP). J'ai aussi essayé de diminuer les règles de pare-feu du modem pour laisser tout passer et j'ai même été mettre ma machine locale (momentanément) dans la DMZ. Rien ! Je n'ai pas configuré iptables sur ma debian : iptables -L donne Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT) target prot opt source destination Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT) target prot opt source destination Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT) target prot opt source destination Enfin, si j'utilise un site tel que https://grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2, il me confirme que mon port 22 est ouvert. Le modem est la BBox 2 de Belgacom (un Sagem F@st3464 adapté à la sauce Belgacom, je pense). Bon, ok, si la configuration de mon serveur ssh n'a rien d'anormal, je vais continuer à chercher dans ce foutu modem. Si quelqu'un le connaît et peut m'aider, qu'il ne se prive pas même si cela sera hors sujet par rapport à la liste. Comme vu avec toi en PV, j'ai testé de chez moi et cela fonctionne parfaitement, la connexion SSH passe bien et le password m'est demandé. Je suppose donc que le problème est au niveau de ton client. Merci beaucoup Jean-Luc pour ton aide. Merci aussi aux autres contributeurs qui m'ont permis d'avancer. C'est formidable de demander de l'aide pour vérifier une config Debian, de dire que l'on va donc chercher ailleurs puisque le problème n'est pas là et que l'on va très certainement se retrouver hors sujet) et de recevoir malgré cela autant d'aide, y compris des propositions d'aide en privé (merci Bzzz). Je n'en demandais pas tant mais j'ai vraiment apprécié. Bon, pour le problème en question : - ce n'était pas la configuration du serveur : Sébastien l'avait confirmé et Jean-Luc l'a testée ; - le test de Jean-Luc confirme aussi qu'il n'y a pas de problème de configuration réseau où le serveur est connecté ; - les tests étant réalisés avec deux clients différents sur deux machines différentes (openssh-client sur une wheezy à jour et ConnectBot sur un smartphone android) ont quand même tendance à disculper les clients. Alors où est le problème ? J'ai réessayé à partir des deux mêmes clients via deux autres connexions : la 3G de mon téléphone et le modem d'un ami. Dans les deux cas, pas de problème. Je suis retourné chez le voisin d'où je faisais mes tests initiaux : rebelotte ! Connection timed out ou refused (mais l'un ou l'autre selon la configuration de *mon* modem côté serveur - vous suivez ?). Allez comprendre. J'ai bien proposé au voisin de chercher dans la configuration de son modem la cause de son problème mais comme cela ne l'intéresse pas vraiment (il n'en a pas besoin), je laisse tomber. Quand à mon modem, la seule configuration du nat (voir autre message) suffit. Il peut garder son parefeu en état normal et il n'y a - heureusement - aucun besoin de mettre le serveur dans la DMZ. Enfin côté serveur, je confirme que la connexion fonctionne avec des fichiers /etc/hosts.allow|deny vides. Elle fonctionne aussi avec mes fichiers habituels : cat /etc/hosts.allow ALL: localhost ALL: 192.168.1.* #sshd: ALL cat /etc/hosts.deny ALL: ALL où je décommente la ligne sshd quand j'en ai besoin. -- E. Flas ~~~ Citation aléatoire ~~~ The most incomprehensible fact about the universe is that it is comprehensible. (A. Einstein) -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201211011652.26176.flas.c...@gmail.com
Re: [Résolu et HS] Connexion ssh : timed out
Bonjour, Le jeudi 01 novembre 2012 à 16:52, E. Flas a écrit : C'est formidable de demander de l'aide pour vérifier une config Debian, de dire que l'on va donc chercher ailleurs puisque le problème n'est pas là et que l'on va très certainement se retrouver hors sujet) et de recevoir malgré cela autant d'aide, y compris des propositions d'aide en privé (merci Bzzz). Je n'en demandais pas tant mais j'ai vraiment apprécié. Moi aussi j'aime bien les HS, ce qui n'est pas le cas de tous et chaque fois qu'une discussion évolue vers le bien fondé d'une demande, je reste dans mon coin car, bien que les détracteurs du HS aient raison, je ne partage pas leur avis. Content que tu aies résolu ton problème. Seb -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20121101175908.gg22...@serveur.nob900.homeip.net
Plus de clavier ni de souris avec kdm !
Bonsoir, J'ai un gros soucis avec un laptop. Au dernier upgrade, tout s'est bien passé mais le redémarrage suivant, c'est la panique... Pas de log louche, mais je n'ai ni clavier, ni souris qui fonctionne donc impossible de faire quoi que ça ! J'ai pris la main en ssh pour pouvoir analyser les logs, mais il n'y a rien de probant, tout semble normal, même pas un warning dans le changement de X ! Dans les logs de kdm j'ai ça X.Org X Server 1.12.4 Release Date: 2012-08-27 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 Build Operating System: Linux 3.2.0-4-amd64 x86_64 Debian Current Operating System: Linux hammer-head 3.5-trunk-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.5.5-1~experimental.1 x86_64 Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-3.5-trunk-amd64 root=UUID=18d08a71-e5e2-4847-bb6d-fbe434787ced ro quiet splash Build Date: 30 September 2012 10:53:24AM xorg-server 2:1.12.4-1 (Julien Cristau jcris...@debian.org) Current version of pixman: 0.26.0 Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org to make sure that you have the latest version. Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: /var/log/Xorg.0.log, Time: Fri Nov 2 00:48:01 2012 (==) Using config file: /etc/X11/xorg.conf (==) Using system config directory /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d klauncher(4176) kdemain: No DBUS session-bus found. Check if you have started the DBUS server. kdeinit4: Communication error with launcher. Exiting! kdmgreet(4168)/kdecore (K*TimeZone*): KSystemTimeZones: ktimezoned initialize() D-Bus call failed: Not connected to D-Bus server kdmgreet(4168)/kdecore (K*TimeZone*): No time zone information obtained from ktimezoned ça me laisserai penser un problème avec dbus, mais ni kdm, ni dbus ont été mis à jour par le dernier upgrade ! Si quelqu'un a une idée pour creuser une piste, je suis preneur à 100% ! ++ Mourad -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50930cd3.8080...@nativobject.net
Re: Servidor XMPP en Debian
2012/11/1 Fabián Bonetti mama21mama2...@yahoo.com.ar On Wed, 31 Oct 2012 22:28:51 + Alberto Benítez freestyl...@gmail.com wrote: Que software para montar un servidor XMPP recomendáis? Saludos Prosody como server Pidgin como cliente 0/ -- Voip Mumble :. http://mumble.com.ar Web Hosting :. http://mamalibre.com.ar Red Social :. http://legadolibre.com.ar Jabber/XMPP :. http://mamalibre.com.ar/xmpp/ MamaLibre, Casa en Lincoln, Ituzaingo 1085 CP6070, Buenos Aires, Argentina Quiero centrarme en plataformas moviles android e ios, conocéis librerías para implementar un cliente?
[OT] Ejecutar programas desde php
Buenas Antes que nada este es un OFF TOPIC no tiene a priori nada que ver con debian. ¿Como podría ejecutar comandos que requieren root por ejemplo iptables desde una web en php? Saludos
Re: [OT] Ejecutar programas desde php
Algo asi mira:
?
$comando = Exec('ls');
Echo $comando;
?
Busca info sobre exec() o system().
Saludos!
Enviado desde mi BlackBerry de Personal (http://www.personal.com.ar/)
-Original Message-
From: Alberto Benítez freestyl...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 13:46:53
To: Lista Debiandebian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org
Subject: [OT] Ejecutar programas desde php
Buenas
Antes que nada este es un OFF TOPIC no tiene a priori nada que ver con
debian.
¿Como podría ejecutar comandos que requieren root por ejemplo iptables
desde una web en php?
Saludos
Re: Alternativas para Sistema Cliente-Servidor (OpenVPN o similar)
El día 31 de octubre de 2012 08:34, ciracusa cirac...@gmail.com escribió: Cristian Mitchell wrote: El día 30 de octubre de 2012 12:50, Adrià adri...@gmail.com escribió: On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 10:24:52AM -0200, ciracusa wrote: Les consulto, tienen alguna sugerencia u otra alternativa para tener en cuenta? OpenSwan. Y un tutorial en http://blog.riobard.com/2010/04/30/l2tp-over-ipsec-ubuntu -- Adrià García-Alzórriz adri...@gmail.com GPG Key ID: 9DE37ED4 Juegos de manos juegos de villanos. El esquema me parece razonable dicho sea de paso es el que he usado normalmente Cristian, omiti pasar un dato que creo importante. Si bien desde Oficina2 quiero llegar a Oficina1 mediante un túnel con OpenVPN, el tema es este (que no aclaré). En Oficina1 tengo una PC con OpenVZ que haría las veces de server OPENVPN, pero no es esta PC adonde se quiere acceder sino que por el contrario se quiere acceder a una 3er pc. Ej: Oficina2 - Internet - Oficina1 - PC con OpenVZ (y OpenVPN) - Equipo con Unix. Osea, la idea es llegar desde una PC en Oficina2 hasta ul equipo Unix en Oficina1 mediante el server de OpenVPN (implementado sobre OpenVZ). Que opinas? Muchas Gracias. Saludos. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50910cc2.3080...@gmail.com El tema es facil una vez que anda la vpn armas una tabla de ruteo hacia la pc destino o con iptables unos redireccionamientos y llito -- MrIX Linux user number 412793. http://counter.li.org/ las grandes obras, las sueñan los santos locos, las realizan los luchadores natos, las aprovechan los felices cuerdo, y las critican los inútiles crónicos, -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CALvB54a8o2Sqjy7twEMw7P=z9btqexz4x4791rlw_kaesbt...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Servidor XMPP en Debian
Saludos El servidor puedes instalar los que te han dicho ya, yo te recomende Openfire y ejabbred, ahora en cuanto a clientes que soporten xmpp tienes: - IM+ - JabbIM - Xabber - Beem - BeejiveIM - Simple XMPP Client - iChat XMPP El 1 de noviembre de 2012 06:04, Alberto Benítez freestyl...@gmail.comescribió: 2012/11/1 Fabián Bonetti mama21mama2...@yahoo.com.ar On Wed, 31 Oct 2012 22:28:51 + Alberto Benítez freestyl...@gmail.com wrote: Que software para montar un servidor XMPP recomendáis? Saludos Prosody como server Pidgin como cliente 0/ -- Voip Mumble :. http://mumble.com.ar Web Hosting :. http://mamalibre.com.ar Red Social :. http://legadolibre.com.ar Jabber/XMPP :. http://mamalibre.com.ar/xmpp/ MamaLibre, Casa en Lincoln, Ituzaingo 1085 CP6070, Buenos Aires, Argentina Quiero centrarme en plataformas moviles android e ios, conocéis librerías para implementar un cliente? -- TSU Orlando Nuñez Teléfono: 04263609858 Correo alternativo: orlandoenu...@gmail.com
Re: Duda en la config de interfaces
El Wed, 31 Oct 2012 01:29:19 -0500 Edgar Vargas cybernaut...@esdebian.org escribió: El 30/10/12, Angel Claudio Alvarez an...@angel-alvarez.com.ar escribió: El Mon, 29 Oct 2012 15:39:38 -0500 l...@ida.cu escribió: On Mon, 29 Oct 2012 16:43:49 -0300, Debian GMail wrote: El 29/10/12 16:12, l...@ida.cu escribió: hola a todos Tengo una duda con la configuración de mi interface Cuando voy al fichero /etc/network/interfaces La duda es: De tener 2 DNS, uno primario y otro secundario, cómo agrego otra IP al nameserver ??? tengo que repetir nameserver con la otra IP del server en una nueva línea, o puedo escribir la otra IP del 2do DNS dejando un espacio? ej: nameserver 192.168.100.50 192.168.100.51 Gracias dpor el tiempo que me han dedicado a mis dudas, muy agradecido. Vayamos por partes. 1) /etc/network/interfaces no tiene CASI un catzo que ver con los DNS. De última, si está instalado resolvconf, toma los DNS por DHCP. 2) Sí, podés cargar los DNS en /etc/network/interfaces, pero no más de dos por interfaz de red. Pero no lo recomiendo si estás configurando por DHCP. 2) Los DNS se manejan a través del archivo /etc/resolv.conf De este último, tenés dos pociones: manual o automático. Si elegís modo manual, que es la que GNU/Linux trae por defecto, podés editar a mano el archivo de configuración y hacer algo así: # /etc/resolv.conf nameserver 8.8.8.8 nameserver 8.8.4.4 nameserver 156.154.70.1 search dominio1.com dominio2.com Ver man resolv.conf NOTA: No se pueden cargar más de 3 DNS a resolv.conf. Limitación de compilación de no me acuerdo qué cosa. Hay un hilo de principios de año con el tema. Si elegís modo automático, que es lo recomendable con DHCP # apt-get install resolvconf y te olvidas del tema, pues es un demonio que captura los DNS que informa DHCP cada vez que hay una modificación de las interfaces de redes. Ver man resolvconf JAP ok gracias, que bueno, he rsuelto mis dudas gracias a uds agradecido Podias haberlo evitado leyendo las paginas de manual o la guia de referencia Por qué evitarlo? creo que él es novato y otros leyendo los mensajes usaran las páginas man y también las recomendaciones... Porque hay miles de personas dando su tiempo generosamente para documentar el sistema y es una falta de respeto hacia ellos el no leer antes la documentacion -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/bae4c2d17d2b70d834dfe5f9b6b72...@ida.cu -- Angel Claudio Alvarez an...@angel-alvarez.com.ar -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20121031003112.95c1f3d1215b3fc41e0f9...@angel-alvarez.com.ar -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cajsw1spwhe52tqp-8qwba1rasnck5q6p4pqcdegacuq1fo1...@mail.gmail.com -- Angel Claudio Alvarez an...@angel-alvarez.com.ar -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20121101202655.1d0b5444135b442da1054...@angel-alvarez.com.ar
Crypt proc ps
Disculpen alguien sabe o ha visto algo relacionado a encriptar la salida de comandos de la consola por ejemplo: ps aux que liste pero todo encriptado, lo mismo con la salida para todo el resto, la idea es algo general, con que este en ps es un comienzo. escucho ideas.. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50932361.4020...@gmail.com
Re: Crypt proc ps
El 01/11/2012 21:34, linuxknow linuxk...@gmail.com escribió: Disculpen alguien sabe o ha visto algo relacionado a encriptar la salida de comandos de la consola por ejemplo: ps aux que liste pero todo encriptado, lo mismo con la salida para todo el resto, la idea es algo general, con que este en ps es un comienzo. escucho ideas.. No se para que lo nececitas pero una posibilidad seria. ps -ax salida.txt ; gpg -c salida.txt Por que no tendria sentido verlo encriptado en pantalla jejeje. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50932361.4020...@gmail.com
Re: Crypt proc ps
Claro eso sería estatico, a un archivo no esta mal. Mi idea sería algo mas al estilo codificado en pantalla en tiempo real, capaz muy loco pero me surgio con respecto a ocultar info, es decir con determinados usuarios se muestre todo encriptado pero cuando se logea admin este se vea normal. es decir admin@debian:/home/user# ps -u admin PID TTY TIME CMD 4374 ?00:00:00 lxsession 4397 ?00:00:00 ssh-agent 4400 ?00:00:00 dbus-launch 4401 ?00:00:01 dbus-daemon 4407 ?00:00:08 openbox 4412 ?00:00:25 lxpanel 4413 ?00:00:02 pcmanfm a esto user@debian:/home/user# ps -u user PID TTY TIME CMD 4374 ?00:00:00 hHuxiji5nQBMw 4397 ?00:00:00 9CdUxSQfFfnxQ quiza alguien habia visto algo así. On 01/11/12 22:55, Fredy Guio wrote: El 01/11/2012 21:34, linuxknow linuxk...@gmail.com mailto:linuxk...@gmail.com escribió: Disculpen alguien sabe o ha visto algo relacionado a encriptar la salida de comandos de la consola por ejemplo: ps aux que liste pero todo encriptado, lo mismo con la salida para todo el resto, la idea es algo general, con que este en ps es un comienzo. escucho ideas.. No se para que lo nececitas pero una posibilidad seria. ps -ax salida.txt ; gpg -c salida.txt Por que no tendria sentido verlo encriptado en pantalla jejeje. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org mailto:debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org mailto:listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50932361.4020...@gmail.com
Tack!
Hej Everybody! Eftersom jag nu (tillfälligt) går ur listan, så ville jag passa på att tacka alla för all hjälp jag fått av er där ute. Och för alla trevliga svar på mina inlägg. Men som en känd person brukade säga: I will be back ! :) Adios! -- /Rolf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-swedish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CADT_QgunCSM_+HTn6tqfEa1-iC_bw+AcZOgQnh=o1qpkjdb...@mail.gmail.com
Doação financeira para o projeto Debian
Bom dia a todos os membros da lista de discussão Debian user portuguese. Como vocês estão? Espero que estejam bem. Caríssimos, eu gostaria de fazer a minha 1ª doação financeira para o projeto Debian. Então visitei o site: http://www.debian.org/donations.pt.html#money_donations E, infelizmente, não encontrei uma maneira de ajudar via: - depósito bancário em reais na conta do projeto Debian; - ou via pague seguro do UOL; - ou outras formas de pagamento que não envolvam cartões de crédito. Por favor, alguém que já contribuiu financeiramente para o projeto Debian poderia me poderia me ajudar? No mais, desejo-lhes uma excelente quinta-feira. Atenciosamente, -- Éder Jordan. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50924f13.9070...@yahoo.com.br
Software para medição de sinal wireless
Bom dia a todos os membros da lista de discussão Debian User Portuguese. Como vocês estão? Espero que estejam bem. Estou estudando redes sem fio na universidade e meu professor nos mostrou o software inSSIDer[1] que tem o objetivo de medir a qualidade do sinal de redes wireless providas por um ponto de acesso sem fio. Porém, este software funciona apenas no sistema operacional MS Windows. Por favor, alguém conhece um software livre que eu possa instalar no sistema operacional Debian GNU Linux que realize a medição de sinal em uma rede wireless? [1] http://www.metageek.net/products/inssider/ Muito obrigado. Atenciosamente, -- Éder Jordan. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/509252d9.3000...@yahoo.com.br
Re: Doação financeira para o projeto Debian
eu uso o flattr.com para fazer doações. Não dôo diretamente para o projeto debian, mas dôo para hafael hertzog, um dos responsáveis pelo dpkg e pelo debian handbook. também dôo para dois debian developers brazileiros. Entre outras coisas livres (software, filmes, música, etc). eu deposito no flattr com cartão de crédito, mas tem outros métodos. paypal serve? Em 01/11/12, Éder Jordanederjor...@yahoo.com.br escreveu: Bom dia a todos os membros da lista de discussão Debian user portuguese. Como vocês estão? Espero que estejam bem. Caríssimos, eu gostaria de fazer a minha 1ª doação financeira para o projeto Debian. Então visitei o site: http://www.debian.org/donations.pt.html#money_donations E, infelizmente, não encontrei uma maneira de ajudar via: - depósito bancário em reais na conta do projeto Debian; - ou via pague seguro do UOL; - ou outras formas de pagamento que não envolvam cartões de crédito. Por favor, alguém que já contribuiu financeiramente para o projeto Debian poderia me poderia me ajudar? No mais, desejo-lhes uma excelente quinta-feira. Atenciosamente, -- Éder Jordan. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50924f13.9070...@yahoo.com.br -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAPr829=9gk8aan6etwytgvkmnhaemk0a4zg48ja1jrwqv1e...@mail.gmail.com
Problemas com Evolution e smtp.gmail.com
Bom Dia Amigos e Amigas, Tenho usado o Evolution sem problemas para enviar e receber emails através do gmail. Mas desde ontem (31/10/2012) comecei a ter problemas apenas para enviar emails. Já mudei a porta para 587, a criptografia de TSL para SSL e nada. Algumas vezes ele chega a pedir a senha mas não envia as mensagens. Alguém da lista tem tido algum problema recente com o Evolution e o SMTP do Gmail? Obrigado, Markos www.c2o.pro.br
Re: mozilla
Em 31/10/12, Manoel Pedro de Araújompara...@gmail.com escreveu: Consegui instalar usando as instruções do site https://sites.google.com/site/linuxmeu/firefox-no-debian e funcionou perfeito. Agora eu gostaria de remove o iceweasel para liberar espaço. se eu removelo tem tem algum problema com o firefox? não sei dizer com certeza. remover o pacote de iceweasel, provavelmente não vai causar problemas. talvez alguma dependência. mas é tão fácil reinstalar, que eu acho que você pode remove o pacote e se der problema instalar de novo. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAPr829ndZotd1CtSXF974SJYmxEx3Xn_xj7wJPHE_M8Y=su...@mail.gmail.com
Re: mozilla
Não precisa remover, pode deixa-lo instalado, o espaço ocupado é pequeno. Assim, se um dia quiser voltar a usar o Iceweasel, basta substituir os links. Se você trocou o fake do firefox no usr/bin, que na verdade aponta para o iceweasel, por um link apontando para o seu firefox, ele funciona legal. Eu usei assim muito tempo. Em 01-11-2012 12:16, Fred Maranhão escreveu: Em 31/10/12, Manoel Pedro de Araújompara...@gmail.com escreveu: Consegui instalar usando as instruções do site https://sites.google.com/site/linuxmeu/firefox-no-debian e funcionou perfeito. Agora eu gostaria de remove o iceweasel para liberar espaço. se eu removelo tem tem algum problema com o firefox? não sei dizer com certeza. remover o pacote de iceweasel, provavelmente não vai causar problemas. talvez alguma dependência. mas é tão fácil reinstalar, que eu acho que você pode remove o pacote e se der problema instalar de novo. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50928708.3010...@yahoo.com.br
Galeria de fotos
Boa tarde amigos da lista Estou em busca de um programa que me permita criar uma galeria de fotos. As fotos estariam armazenadas em uma NAS e o programa de gerenciamento em um host Debian. O acesso cliente seria efetuado via web. Tenho procurado e não encontro nada, mas lembro que a alguns meses na primeira vez que propus esse projeto encontrei um muito bom, profissional, mas adiei o projeto e agora não lembro o nome do software. Agradecendo -- Mauricio Neto FREE 3D MARINE AQUARIUM SCREENSAVER - Watch dolphins, sharks orcas on your desktop! Check it out at http://www.inbox.com/marineaquarium -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5092ae17.30...@inbox.com
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Re: Galeria de fotos
Mauricio Neto wrote: Boa tarde amigos da lista Estou em busca de um programa que me permita criar uma galeria de fotos. As fotos estariam armazenadas em uma NAS e o programa de gerenciamento em um host Debian. O acesso cliente seria efetuado via web. Tenho procurado e não encontro nada, mas lembro que a alguns meses na primeira vez que propus esse projeto encontrei um muito bom, profissional, mas adiei o projeto e agora não lembro o nome do software. Agradecendo http://www.piwigo.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/k6uen0$a36$1...@ger.gmane.org
Re: Galeria de fotos
On 11/01/2012 03:15 PM, Mauricio Neto wrote: Boa tarde amigos da lista Estou em busca de um programa que me permita criar uma galeria de fotos. As fotos estariam armazenadas em uma NAS e o programa de gerenciamento em um host Debian. O acesso cliente seria efetuado via web. Tenho procurado e não encontro nada, mas lembro que a alguns meses na primeira vez que propus esse projeto encontrei um muito bom, profissional, mas adiei o projeto e agora não lembro o nome do software. Agradecendo Boa noite Mauricio, Veja se uma desta lhe ajuda; todos Open Source: 1. Gallery -- http://gallery.menalto.com/ 2. Zenphoto -- http://www.zenphoto.org/ 3. Piwigo - http://piwigo.org/ 4. TinyWebGallery -- http://www.tinywebgallery.com/en/main.php 5. Plogger -- http://www.plogger.org/ 6. phpAlbum.net -- http://phpalbum.net/ 7. Coppermine -- http://coppermine-gallery.net/ 8. ThePhig -- http://www.thephig.com/ 9. OpenFoto - http://studio.quintalinda.com/help/tools/openfoto-open-source-photo-gallery-script/ Abraços, ___ Francisco C Soares ( *Junior* ) 403790c89847cdbe5a262146de8fb93139c4
Re: Galeria de fotos
Francisco era o Galerry que eu estava procurando... mas vou avaliar todos com calma. Muito obrigado Em 01-11-2012 22:34, Francisco C Soares escreveu: On 11/01/2012 03:15 PM, Mauricio Neto wrote: Boa tarde amigos da lista Estou em busca de um programa que me permita criar uma galeria de fotos. As fotos estariam armazenadas em uma NAS e o programa de gerenciamento em um host Debian. O acesso cliente seria efetuado via web. Tenho procurado e não encontro nada, mas lembro que a alguns meses na primeira vez que propus esse projeto encontrei um muito bom, profissional, mas adiei o projeto e agora não lembro o nome do software. Agradecendo Boa noite Mauricio, Veja se uma desta lhe ajuda; todos Open Source: 1. Gallery -- http://gallery.menalto.com/ 2. Zenphoto -- http://www.zenphoto.org/ 3. Piwigo - http://piwigo.org/ 4. TinyWebGallery -- http://www.tinywebgallery.com/en/main.php 5. Plogger -- http://www.plogger.org/ 6. phpAlbum.net -- http://phpalbum.net/ 7. Coppermine -- http://coppermine-gallery.net/ 8. ThePhig -- http://www.thephig.com/ 9. OpenFoto - http://studio.quintalinda.com/help/tools/openfoto-open-source-photo-gallery-script/ Abraços, ___ Francisco C Soares ( *Junior* ) 403790c89847cdbe5a262146de8fb93139c4 -- Mauricio Neto (21)8236-2505 FREE 3D EARTH SCREENSAVER - Watch the Earth right on your desktop! Check it out at http://www.inbox.com/earth
Re: Trojan Detected by Kaspersky in One Debian DVD
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 08:17:52PM -0400, Alan Feuerbacher wrote: A couple of weeks ago I downloaded to my Windows 7 machine 10 DVD iso files for debian-6.0.6-amd64. I have not yet installed Debian to this machine. Last night Kaspersky anti-virus detected a Trojan in one of the files: debian-6.0.6-amd64-DVD-7.iso\pool\main\n\nepenthes\nepenthes_0.2.2-6_amd64.deb\data.tar\.\usr\share\doc\nepenthes\README.VFS The Trojan is called Trojan-Downloader.BAT.ftp.z Is this a real Trojan? If so, why would it be there? If not, what is it? This is a false positive: There is no trojan in the file README.VFS, but what's interesting is that the package concerned (nepenthes, as John helpfully provided a packaging link to) is a security tool related to trojans: versatile tool to collect malware by emulating widespread vulnerabilities -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20121101092618.GB5632@debian
troubleshooting a broken mess (was ... Re: compiling a Debian package)
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 03:04:49PM +0100, lee wrote: Yeah and that's why you are forced to turn your system into a mess with brokenarch and are supposed to try packages from unstable which create only more dependency problems and mess things up even further. Think it through and you'll see that there won't be a next stable release unless they fix the mess they made --- and they're not going to do that. Stable is obsolete and deprecated. OK. Lets work through your problems, or can't you be bothered. I also think this thread (although under a better name, for search purposes) would be good for the archives. So, have you got dependency problems at the moment? What is output of apt-get -f install ? -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2012110735.GN13309@tal
Re: Where is CC and why do my downloads not find it?
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 12:29:41PM -0700, Samuel Morgan wrote: Hi- I recently installed DEBIAN Linux on my 386 PC and then tried to install an Apache web server, as I have on Mac and Windows, binary and it asked for a C compiler. Where do I get, if I really need, a CC binary pre-built? Seems a bit like the chicken and the egg. Why not apt-get install apache2? -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20121101112055.GO13309@tal
Re: Mailbox, Mysql or Folder.
[Disclaimer: I only run a mail server for mainly personal use. I have less than ten users on that system but the configuration is comparable to that of the ISPMail howto]. Muhammad Yousuf Khan: i am working in a small company 30 to 50 users, so which one is more suitable for me a mailbox storage in a folder or database by keeping in mind stability? I don't think there are many people (or organisations) that keep their e-mails in relational databases. Sure, mail servers like Exchange (or Dovecot) may have their own on-disk-format for mailboxes instead of plain maildirs or mboxes. But they don't use MySQL (or Postgres, for that matter). Do not confuse e-mail storage with user authentication and management. but for learning purpose i also like to know. how big companies (may be with 1000 to 3000 users) deal with such huge mailboxes. Performance-wise, your best bet with Dovecot is probably its own dbox format. You may want to ask for experience with this on the Dovecot mailing list. For 50 users, I recommend to use Maildirs and make sure Dovecot's LDS is used for delivery into mailboxes. That way the index files are always up-to-date. J. -- I am no longer prepared to give you the benefit of the doubt. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Nvidia Driver Problem.
I reinstalled my nVidia graphic card driver and got Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual when I run command glxinfo. How can I fix it? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50928388.7030...@gmail.com
Re: Mailbox, Mysql or Folder.
Jochen Spieker: For 50 users, I recommend to use Maildirs and make sure Dovecot's LDS is ^^^ Whoops. What I meant to write was LDA. Not LSD and most definitely not LDS. :) J. -- I feel yawning hollowness whilst talking to people at parties. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Trojan Detected by Kaspersky in One Debian DVD
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 08:17:52PM -0400, Alan Feuerbacher wrote: A couple of weeks ago I downloaded to my Windows 7 machine 10 DVD iso files for debian-6.0.6-amd64. I have not yet installed Debian to this machine. Last night Kaspersky anti-virus detected a Trojan in one of the files: debian-6.0.6-amd64-DVD-7.iso\pool\main\n\nepenthes\nepenthes_0.2.2-6_amd64.deb\data.tar\.\usr\share\doc\nepenthes\README.VFS The Trojan is called Trojan-Downloader.BAT.ftp.z Is this a real Trojan? If so, why would it be there? If not, what is it? Looking at the file in question, I can see why it's being flagged up. README.VFS is headed VFS testcases, followed by a Batchfile that, if executed, looks like it would download a series of EXEs and DLLs from ftp sites around the internet. The batchfile looks exceedingly dodgy to my untrained eyes BUT there are a few things to remember: 1) As pointed out by someone else, this package is explicitly about collecting malware; if you're interested in that you're probably more au fait with what the script might do. 2) The file itself is a README file (i.e. plain text) in the documentation directory of a package that most people wouldn't install. In other words, the file is only a risk to you if you install the nepenthes package AND then copy the README.VFS file to a Windows system AND rename it to *.BAT AND execute that file. If in doubt, don't do that :) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Advice on system purchase
Am Montag, 29. Oktober 2012 schrieb Stan Hoeppner: For powerful laptops and power saving desktops I think Intel Sandybridge/Ivybridge is best bet currently - except for the political dimension. Sure, but 90% of users don't need powerful. All the cores sit idle most of the time, and a faster CPU doesn't make Thunderbird or Firefox, IE or Outlook express, go any faster. Nor any of the standard desktop apps. 90% of users would benefit more from a low wattage dual or even single core CPU, with an SSD instead of a rust drive. But it's hard to sell people on the truth after you've been lying to them about the benefits of 4-8 core CPUs for many years... Yeah, as you pointed out its about peak performance. But if you look at my powertop snapshots you will see that the Linux Kernel mostly switched between 800 MHz and turbo mode, i.e. give me all MHz you can squeeze out of the CPU given the current load on other cores and GPU. Especially if regularily it does it mostly on one core. If that core can go faster it may have a noticable effect. So a higher peak performance may have a beneficial effect on latency in short high load situations like starting an application or other high loads. Whether thats noticable? Well, one would have to test it. I think to see any difference during application load times tough you need to have a good SSD alongside. But I do believe that the kernel pings between 800 MHz and turbo mode not for nothing. That said: By all means, I bet there are numerous AMD CPUs out there that are just fast enough already. So I think we basically agree with difference in detail scope. -- Martin 'Helios' Steigerwald - http://www.Lichtvoll.de GPG: 03B0 0D6C 0040 0710 4AFA B82F 991B EAAC A599 84C7 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201211011742.39732.mar...@lichtvoll.de
Re: btrfs on LUKS
On 10/31/2012 7:56 PM, Celejar wrote: On Wed, 31 Oct 2012 19:01:40 -0500 Stan Hoeppner s...@hardwarefreak.com wrote: Why didn't you purchase a self encrypting SSD? Eliminates all of these issues. Lots of them available today. Price? Doing a quick check on Newegg, the cheapest SSDs currently start at about $50-$60 (although one can occasionally find one on sale / special / after rebate for $20-$30), and searching within those results for 'encryption' indicates that the cheapest with that capability is about $95. Your methods are not sufficient. Newegg doesn't provide the necessary information in it's product database. SandForce 1000/2000 series controllers do automatic transparent AES-128 or AES-256 encryption depending on controller model, and do so while achieving much higher performance than all other SSD controllers on the market. They also support a boot time disk password. http://www.lsi.com/technology/duraclass/Pages/Automatic-Encryption.aspx This $45 40GB Mushkin drive has an SF-1200 controller: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226168 This $90 120GB OCZ Agility3 has an SF-2281 controller: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227914 Thus cost isn't really a factor. The $45 is current regular price on Mushkin, not after rebate, etc. Frankly I'd be surprised that anyone would be anything but a SandForce based SSD today, given the price/performance/capacity ratio. The OP's SSD may in fact be a SandForce model, and he may simply not be aware of it, or the features I mentioned above. -- Stan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5092acd7.7060...@hardwarefreak.com
Re: compiling a Debian package
John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com writes: lee writes: It is not illegal to use NVIDIA drivers, yet they are deprecated, without alternative. It is probably not illegal to use firmware to get hardware working that doesn't work without, yet firmware is deprecated, without alternative. The obsession with free software unfortunately leads to dead ends. You clearly do not want to use Debian. Yes, they messed it up beyond repair, and I'm done with it. Free Software is what Debian is about. Don't worry, I like free software a lot. I don't like dead ends, though. -- Debian testing iad96 brokenarch -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87625pteei@yun.yagibdah.de
Re: compiling a Debian package
Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com writes: On Wednesday 31 October 2012 15:25:52 Darac Marjal wrote: Anyway, I feel like I'm feeding a troll here, so I'll just point you to Debian's Social Contract[4] which describes this better than I can He likes moaning. ;-) We are suggesting ways of solving his problem, but it is more fun to slag off the poor developers who do a great job without pay. The only thing you have suggested is to stop using Debian, and I don't call that a solution. It's really funny because a suggestion like that fits this mailing list perfectly :)) -- Debian testing iad96 brokenarch -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87ehkdtf9z@yun.yagibdah.de
Re: compiling a Debian package
John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com writes: Lisi writes: And it does rather sound as though he might be better off with Windows. But at whom would he moan in that case? Microsoft, of course, with the advantage that there would be no danger that they would fix the problems that he moaned about. Hilarious :)) Now it's even considered dangerous that problems might be fixed. Keep going that way :)) -- Debian testing iad96 brokenarch -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87a9v1tf3z@yun.yagibdah.de
Re: how to prevent dvd drives from being polled
Frank McCormick debianl...@videotron.ca writes:
On 31/10/12 01:15 PM, Dom wrote:
On 31/10/12 16:13, Dom wrote:
On 31/10/12 15:48, Frank McCormick wrote:
On 31/10/12 10:42 AM, lee wrote:
Darac Marjal mailingl...@darac.org.uk writes:
SUBSYSTEM==block, ENV{ID_VENDOR}==APPLE*, ENV{ID_MODEL}==SD Card
Reader*, ENV{UDISKS_DISABLE_POLLING}=1
Adding 'ENV{UDISKS_DISABLE_POLLING}=1' in
/etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-cd.rules seems to disable it. You have
to reboot for it to work, though, and that shouldn't be needed.
Thank you very much for your answers!
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Re: compiling a Debian package
Darac Marjal mailingl...@darac.org.uk writes: On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 03:39:04PM +0100, lee wrote: I'm not familiar with cinelerra but, according to the BTS([1] and [2]), there have been two^Wseveral attempts to package cinelerra that have fallen by the wayside. That latter bug seems to suggest that cinelerra depends on non-free software (so it could, perhaps, go in contrib). As ever, if you care about this software, consider helping to fix the remaining issues. If Debian wanted help, they won't make it so difficult for everyone to help them. It's not my problem that they make things so difficult for themselves. Besides, I was told in an answer to a bug report that 32bit support will not be available in the next release, so Debian is deprecated now, and I'm done with it. Who knows what they screw up next. So you have two options, use the NVIDIA driver (with the knowledge that it may access, collect non-personally identifiable information about, update, and configure Customer's system in order to properly optimize such system for use with the SOFTWARE) or use the open driver. The open source driver is not an alternative because it doesn't really work and is ridiculously slow. The NVIDIA driver is excellent and has been for the last 15 years or so, and it's frowned upon by developers and deprecated. The NVIDIA driver in stable is ancient and you have to use at least testing, better unstable to get an up to date driver. I've been using the NVIDIA one rather than the NVIDIA version that's in Debian, and the NVIDIA one gave me a lot less problems. So after about 15 years, there still isn't an alternative. Sure I would prefer an open source driver. That doesn't help because there is none. Last time I tried the nouveau one it was even too slow for a plain X-session, so I won't even say they could make it so that we could switch drivers on the fly because there is no point in doing that. The obsession with free software unfortunately leads to dead ends. Apparently even developers now don't want to stay 20 years behind technology anymore, so they have regressed to deprecate everything that's not free software to force the issue. That's probably leading to a dead end as well, and I don't want to get stuck there. What would you have them do otherwise? They could change their attitude back to we want things to work. Debian wouldn't need to have a messed up version and/or ancient version of the NVIDIA drivers if they just looked at what NVIDIA provides and made sure that it integrates without causing the problems they claim it causes. Developers could acknowledge that there is software they cannot get their hands on and that this software, as unfortunate as it may be, is essential, and they could try to make the best out of this situation. Nothing (that I'm aware of) in Debian bans you from using non-free software. There is only the understanding that support for non-free software is the responsibility of that software's provider. You already can't use it anymore when it's 32bit software. NVIDIA continues to provide excellent non-free drivers since 15 years or so. Dmo doesn't seem to have a problem with non-free software that you say cinelerra depends upon. Things become difficult when developers of free software refuse to accept that there is such a thing as non-free software which may be important for users. I can understand that they get tired of being confronted with non-free software, yet that doesn't help. When their attitude leads them into a dead end, that's their choice, and it's unfortunate because it takes alternatives away users had. -- Debian testing iad96 brokenarch -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87ip9ptflg@yun.yagibdah.de
Re: Mailbox, Mysql or Folder.
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 7:09 AM, Jochen Spieker m...@well-adjusted.de wrote: [Disclaimer: I only run a mail server for mainly personal use. I have less than ten users on that system but the configuration is comparable to that of the ISPMail howto]. Muhammad Yousuf Khan: i am working in a small company 30 to 50 users, so which one is more suitable for me a mailbox storage in a folder or database by keeping in mind stability? I don't think there are many people (or organisations) that keep their e-mails in relational databases. Sure, mail servers like Exchange (or Dovecot) may have their own on-disk-format for mailboxes instead of plain maildirs or mboxes. But they don't use MySQL (or Postgres, for that matter). Exchange may not use MS SQL Server, but it does use a database, namely Extensible Storage Engine (ESE) aka JET Blue (not the same code as JET Red, which was the old Access engine). MS looked at moving Exchange to SQL Server, but decided not to. AFAIK, Exchange is the only major mail server to do this. Cheers, Kelly Clowers
Re: Mailbox, Mysql or Folder.
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 10:42 AM, Kelly Clowers kelly.clow...@gmail.comwrote: On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 7:09 AM, Jochen Spieker m...@well-adjusted.dewrote: [Disclaimer: I only run a mail server for mainly personal use. I have less than ten users on that system but the configuration is comparable to that of the ISPMail howto]. Muhammad Yousuf Khan: i am working in a small company 30 to 50 users, so which one is more suitable for me a mailbox storage in a folder or database by keeping in mind stability? I don't think there are many people (or organisations) that keep their e-mails in relational databases. Sure, mail servers like Exchange (or Dovecot) may have their own on-disk-format for mailboxes instead of plain maildirs or mboxes. But they don't use MySQL (or Postgres, for that matter). Exchange may not use MS SQL Server, but it does use a database, namely Extensible Storage Engine (ESE) aka JET Blue (not the same code as JET Red, which was the old Access engine). MS looked at moving Exchange to SQL Server, but decided not to. AFAIK, Exchange is the only major mail server to do this. And, hey! The new Gmail composer automatically uses reply-to-list! Party! Party! (Still defaults to top-posting, though.) Cheers, Kelly Clowers
Re: compiling a Debian package
On Thursday 01 November 2012 17:16:24 lee wrote: Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com writes: On Wednesday 31 October 2012 15:25:52 Darac Marjal wrote: Anyway, I feel like I'm feeding a troll here, so I'll just point you to Debian's Social Contract[4] which describes this better than I can He likes moaning. ;-) We are suggesting ways of solving his problem, but it is more fun to slag off the poor developers who do a great job without pay. The only thing you have suggested is to stop using Debian, and I don't call that a solution. It's really funny because a suggestion like that fits this mailing list perfectly :)) It is much the best solution to the problem you keep expounding. You clearly dislike Debian intensely, so it is daft to keep using it. Windows would give you everything you say you want: up to date hardware support and proprietary drivers. And no FLOSS dead ends. Debian has decided to go back to its roots. Since you so profoundly disagree with the policy, stop using Debian. The developers are volunteers. They can do what they want to do. You could always pay someone to develop a fork for you, or develop it for yourself. There are plenty of distros with different policies - and there is Windows. And OSX, of course. Debian is what it is. Most of us like it, which is why we use it. If you don't like it, don't use it. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201211011757.11874.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: compiling a Debian package
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 10:09 AM, lee l...@yun.yagibdah.de wrote: Besides, I was told in an answer to a bug report that 32bit support will not be available in the next release, Yeah, right. I'll believe that when I see a formal announcement of it on the front page of debian.org and on debian-announce. I expect it sometime between 2038 and never. Unless you mean something besides support for i386/x86-32, but there is no indication of that from the context. Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAFoWM=8-hC=yJYyLioEWV_qMiYqcHjHu8jsai0o=touoicd...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Mailbox, Mysql or Folder.
Kelly Clowers: On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 7:09 AM, Jochen Spieker m...@well-adjusted.de wrote: I don't think there are many people (or organisations) that keep their e-mails in relational databases. Sure, mail servers like Exchange (or Dovecot) may have their own on-disk-format for mailboxes instead of plain maildirs or mboxes. But they don't use MySQL (or Postgres, for that matter). Exchange may not use MS SQL Server, but it does use a database, namely Extensible Storage Engine (ESE) aka JET Blue (not the same code as JET Red, which was the old Access engine). MS looked at moving Exchange to SQL Server, but decided not to. I already supposed something like this when writing my e-mail but couldn't be bothered to google it. Nevertheless, I deliberately chose the term relational database which does not appear to apply to ESE. And that means I am still right. ;-) J. -- After the millenium I will shoot to kill. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Addition of the Workman keyboard layout
What is the best way to go about proposing the addition of the Workman keyboard layout to continue in the tracks of Colemak? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/01f35dcc-df2e-4976-b206-4a33f8288...@deekayen.net
Does Debian dictionary/glossary/acronym list exist?
I've been using computers since before Linus was born. I'm making the switch from a certain OS ;\ I'm also one of those strange people who actually reads docs. What do I do when I find terms such as initrd or udeb ? And before I get too much grief from youngsters - From personal experience do you have any clue of relevance of CORC, CUPL, WATFOR, WATFIV, 026, 12AX7, etc, etc ;/ ? I'm looking for a self sufficient reference. P.S. I'm also of era of S100, CPM, KIM, SYM, CBM etc etc etc ;) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5092dac3.2070...@cloud85.net
Re: Mailbox, Mysql or Folder.
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 11:44 AM, Jochen Spieker m...@well-adjusted.de wrote: Kelly Clowers: On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 7:09 AM, Jochen Spieker m...@well-adjusted.de wrote: I don't think there are many people (or organisations) that keep their e-mails in relational databases. Sure, mail servers like Exchange (or Dovecot) may have their own on-disk-format for mailboxes instead of plain maildirs or mboxes. But they don't use MySQL (or Postgres, for that matter). Exchange may not use MS SQL Server, but it does use a database, namely Extensible Storage Engine (ESE) aka JET Blue (not the same code as JET Red, which was the old Access engine). MS looked at moving Exchange to SQL Server, but decided not to. I already supposed something like this when writing my e-mail but couldn't be bothered to google it. Nevertheless, I deliberately chose the term relational database which does not appear to apply to ESE. And that means I am still right. ;-) You are right indeed. I didn't see a clear answer to whether it was relational or not at first. Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAFoWM=_gljpx1_hmfwtpfpth8tzcccp5kv45edwcdaz3kjm...@mail.gmail.com
Re: compiling a Debian package
lee: Darac Marjal mailingl...@darac.org.uk writes: Nothing (that I'm aware of) in Debian bans you from using non-free software. There is only the understanding that support for non-free software is the responsibility of that software's provider. You already can't use it anymore when it's 32bit software. As a general statement this is simply not true. NVIDIA continues to provide excellent non-free drivers since 15 years or so. You are of course entitled to your own opinion. But you should be aware that most people in the Free Softare world (and probably most people running some Linux distro) oppose that claim. J. -- Nothing is as I planned it. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Checking local mail with Icedove
This may or may not be a dumb question, but I would like to install logcheck on my local machine, and then view the emails it generates using Icedove. I guess I need a POP or IMAP server running, so my question is, which server should I install to access the emails that will be put into a maildir format, and how is it configured to accept connections locally only? Any advice? Thanks, Craig Sent - Gtek Web Mail -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1351805773.77723...@webmail.gtek.biz
Re: Mailbox, Mysql or Folder.
On Thu, 1 Nov 2012 18:55:34 +0500 Muhammad Yousuf Khan sir...@gmail.com wrote: now i want to decide the email storage strategy where i am confuse a bit to choose the correct path. i remember someone once suggested me that i should store emails directly into my harddisk in to file formate instead of MYsql database. the point behind was that if database corrupted then whole data will be lost but on the other hand if i store email in folder it can be recovered easily . (apart from mysql database backup and restore strategy) since i am very new to mail server i would like to learn from your experience and expert opinion that what route should i choose? Exactly right. Do you want maximum security or maximum usability? As others have mentioned here, Exchange uses a database, in part for ease of searching but also for security. There is no reliable way to restore a single mailbox, and if your server dies badly, there's pretty much no way to use even a backup of the database on any other hardware. The encryption of the database is tied into security numbers created with the OS installation. Excellent security for confidential email (as required in certain industries in the US), but the whole lot is gone if you can't recover the server OS installation. The workaround is to run the server virtual, so it can be restored to different physical hardware without a change of installation environment. You virtualise the server in order to have a reasonable chance of disaster recovery of your email... If the server is still there but the database is damaged, it is often possible to restore a backup to a specially-created mount point, from which repairs may be effected. It doesn't always work, and hasn't either of the times I tried it. Then it's a restore of the entire OS from a backup tens of gigabytes in size. And you don't know what resource-hungry means until you've seen Exchange or SQL Server running. Exchange does transaction-rollback, and doesn't commit its journal until the next backup. Obviously, MySQL isn't going to be so difficult to deal with, and it can be easily backed up and restored to another instance. It can be dumped as plain text, and indeed in the form of SQL statements to rebuild the database elsewhere. I assume you could store it in an encrypted filesystem if you needed to, though that would make recovery a little harder if you didn't keep good backups. I store mail as plain text files. Next to no security, but I don't have valuable and confidential emails, and I value the ability to read them with just about any program, or recover most/all of them from most kinds of failure, from a rescue boot medium. Backing up is a trivial file copy. Microsoft has no other mail server but Exchange. With Linux, you have a wide choice. -- Joe -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20121101220602.5be87...@jretrading.com
Re: Checking local mail with Icedove
On Thu, 1 Nov 2012 16:36:13 -0500 (CDT) cr...@gtek.biz wrote: This may or may not be a dumb question, but I would like to install logcheck on my local machine, and then view the emails it generates using Icedove. I guess I need a POP or IMAP server running, so my question is, which server should I install to access the emails that will be put into a maildir format, and how is it configured to accept connections locally only? I think most IMAP servers use maildir: I use Courier. I would expect it can be configured to listen only to localhost, mine is the network IMAP server, so it doesn't. Courier would use ADDRESS=127.0.0.1 in /etc/courier/imapd to do this. -- Joe -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20121101221500.48bc7...@jretrading.com
Re: btrfs on LUKS
Thank you for answering. But I still looking for a software solution. Is there a way to make a setup with the debian-installer? /christian On 10/31/2012 7:56 PM, Celejar wrote: On Wed, 31 Oct 2012 19:01:40 -0500 Stan Hoeppner s...@hardwarefreak.com wrote: Why didn't you purchase a self encrypting SSD? Eliminates all of these issues. Lots of them available today. Price? Doing a quick check on Newegg, the cheapest SSDs currently start at about $50-$60 (although one can occasionally find one on sale / special / after rebate for $20-$30), and searching within those results for 'encryption' indicates that the cheapest with that capability is about $95. Your methods are not sufficient. Newegg doesn't provide the necessary information in it's product database. SandForce 1000/2000 series controllers do automatic transparent AES-128 or AES-256 encryption depending on controller model, and do so while achieving much higher performance than all other SSD controllers on the market. They also support a boot time disk password. http://www.lsi.com/technology/duraclass/Pages/Automatic-Encryption.aspx This $45 40GB Mushkin drive has an SF-1200 controller: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226168 This $90 120GB OCZ Agility3 has an SF-2281 controller: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227914 Thus cost isn't really a factor. The $45 is current regular price on Mushkin, not after rebate, etc. Frankly I'd be surprised that anyone would be anything but a SandForce based SSD today, given the price/performance/capacity ratio. The OP's SSD may in fact be a SandForce model, and he may simply not be aware of it, or the features I mentioned above. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5092fa00.1020...@gmx.de
Re: Does Debian dictionary/glossary/acronym list exist?
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 1:25 PM, Richard Owlett rowl...@cloud85.net wrote: I've been using computers since before Linus was born. I'm making the switch from a certain OS ;\ I'm also one of those strange people who actually reads docs. What do I do when I find terms such as initrd or udeb ? And before I get too much grief from youngsters - From personal experience do you have any clue of relevance of CORC, CUPL, WATFOR, WATFIV, 026, 12AX7, etc, etc ;/ ? I'm looking for a self sufficient reference. P.S. I'm also of era of S100, CPM, KIM, SYM, CBM etc etc etc ;) Try http://wiki.debian.org/Glossary and http://www.infodrom.org/Debian/doc/acronyms.html And a general google may work for some things (depending on how overloaded it is), maybe with debian added to the search. Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAFoWM=8kz_c7tkx6axmwxfggcxskpkdt3x-g8qu+jn5p2j5...@mail.gmail.com
Re: compiling a Debian package
--- On Thu, 11/1/12, lee l...@yun.yagibdah.de wrote: From: lee l...@yun.yagibdah.de Subject: Re: compiling a Debian package To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Date: Thursday, November 1, 2012, 12:35 PM Don't worry, I like free software a lot. I don't like dead ends, though. I am finding problems getting some multimedia apps to work properly on wheezy. Certain features of avidemux 2.5.6 crash. 2.6 barely works at all. Their custom install script uses sudo (which isn't enabled by default on Debian). DVDStyler isn't even in the deb multimedia repos for wheezy but there are plenty of .debs available for 'buntu. It seems that media devs are putting time into getting things going on 'buntu but leaving Debian behind. H . . . I wonder why . . . I want to stick with Debian but may have to keep my media work indefinitely on squeeze if things don't straighten out on wheezy. Or find a more media friendly distro. Right now I'm feeling frustrated on the way to po'd. Thankfully, I did manage to get the driver for the old nvidia card installed with the sgfxi script but had to blacklist nouveau to get it to work. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1351813254.84015.yahoomailclas...@web163403.mail.gq1.yahoo.com
Re: Mailbox, Mysql or Folder.
Once I used a mailbox and got cured of that in a hurry when clamav cut off access to the entire content of that mailbox because at least one of the messages in that mailbox had a virus clamav had detected. That was a windows virus too. I went with nmh after that since it uses folders with each message in its own file. I might loose individual files on account of viruses or access to those files but still have access to the rest of my mail. Your mileage very probably will vary. --- jude jdash...@shellworld.net Adobe fiend for failing to Flash -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/alpine.bsf.2.01.1211012056100.1...@freire1.furyyjbeyq.arg
Re: Advice on system purchase
On 11/1/2012 11:42 AM, Martin Steigerwald wrote: Am Montag, 29. Oktober 2012 schrieb Stan Hoeppner: For powerful laptops and power saving desktops I think Intel Sandybridge/Ivybridge is best bet currently - except for the political dimension. Sure, but 90% of users don't need powerful. All the cores sit idle most of the time, and a faster CPU doesn't make Thunderbird or Firefox, IE or Outlook express, go any faster. Nor any of the standard desktop apps. 90% of users would benefit more from a low wattage dual or even single core CPU, with an SSD instead of a rust drive. But it's hard to sell people on the truth after you've been lying to them about the benefits of 4-8 core CPUs for many years... Yeah, as you pointed out its about peak performance. No, it has nothing to do with peak performance. What I said was that, in a nut shell, a 2.5-3GHz dual core CPU from AMD or Intel is more powerful than what 99.99% of users need. Yet AMD/Intel are only selling 4/6/8 core desktop CPUs today. It's a waste of cores and a waste of money. But if you look at my powertop snapshots you will see that the Linux Kernel mostly switched between 800 MHz and turbo mode, i.e. give me all MHz you can squeeze out of the CPU given the current load on other cores and GPU. Especially if regularily it does it mostly on one core. If that core can go faster it may have a noticable effect. So a higher peak performance may have a beneficial effect on latency in short high load situations like starting an application or other high loads. This has nothing to do with the case I've made. You're talking about battery saving CPU frequency scaling on a laptop. This has nothing to do with the case I've made. Whether thats noticable? Well, one would have to test it. I think to see any difference during application load times tough you need to have a good SSD alongside. CPU performance has little to do with app load times, with most productivity apps anyway. Load time is dictated by disk latency. If the application's binary and libraries have been cached then CPU makes more difference, but it's a small difference. But I do believe that the kernel pings between 800 MHz and turbo mode not for nothing. I have no idea what point you're making here. That said: By all means, I bet there are numerous AMD CPUs out there that are just fast enough already. So I think we basically agree with difference in detail scope. The top performing CPUs from 3-4 generations ago (4-5 years), both AMD and Intel, were already fast enough for the average user. Simply switching to an SSD gives these users far more additional performance than a faster many-core chip. -- Stan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50933304.3020...@hardwarefreak.com
Re: Checking local mail with Icedove
On Thu, Nov 01, 2012 at 04:36:13PM -0500, cr...@gtek.biz wrote: This may or may not be a dumb question, but I would like to install logcheck on my local machine, and then view the emails it generates using Icedove. I guess I need a POP or IMAP server running, so my question is, which server should I install to access the emails that will be put into a maildir format, and how is it configured to accept connections locally only? I don't think you need to bother with POP or IMAP. It appears Icedove has an account type called movemail that you can point to /var/spool/mail/user. Personally, I use good old /usr/bin/mail for this purpose. John -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20121102031847.ga21...@cerulean.myhome.westell.com
