date:20121119

On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 07:13:58 +0100
philippe L pti...@gmail.com wrote:

Je doute que tu ais des directories ou des fichiers dev s'appelant x.jpg...

   find . -maxdepth 0 -type f -name *.jpg

   find ./ -iname \*.jpg

Un test avec juste cette ligne dans un batch et ce batch placé dans
/usr/local/bin montre que le script explore bien tous les s/s DIRs
de l'endroit d'où il est appelé, à l'exception bien sûr de ceux où
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Re: [un peu HS ?] Iceweasel n'affiche pas la cartographie du Vendée Globe

2012-11-19 Thread VieuxGeek DuSystem

Pour info

http://mozilla.debian.net/

enjoy

Stef

Le 18 novembre 2012 23:13, Mourad Jaber m...@nativobject.net a écrit :

 Le 18/11/2012 20:02, Giraud Jean Louis a écrit :

  Bonjour,
 Je suis sous Squeeze avec Xfce comme environnement de bureau et
 Iceweasel 3.5.12 comme navigateur internet et je suis désolé car
 lorsque je clique sur l'onglet cartographie sur le site du Vendée
 Globe j'obtiens une page blanche avec juste le bandeau du haut où
 figure le chronomètre.
 Si quelqu'un a une idée pour résoudre ce problème il aura droit à toute
 ma reconnaissance.

  J'ai bien peur que la version 3.5 soit une pièce de musée !

 Très peu de site internet sont testés sur cette version, donc il est tout
 à fait possible que tu te retrouve avec de plus en plus
 d'incompatibilités...

 Il est peut-être temps de penser aux backports pour passer en iceweasel
 10...

 Chez moi en iceweasel 16 le site fonctionne très bien, avec une bonne
 réactivité.

 ++

 Mourad


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Re: Souci de serveur MySQL après passage Lenny--Squeeze

2012-11-19 Thread bruno.deb...@cyberoso.com

Le Mon, 19 Nov 2012 12:54:21 +0100,
list-deb...@gwilhom.fr a écrit :

 Bonjour,
 
 Oui c'est préférable ainsi que le dossier contenant les bases de
 données (/var/lib/mysql)
 
 Le 18/11/2012 19:05, Olivier Kazmierowski a écrit :
  Bonsoir,
 
  Le fichier my.cnf existant est-il remplacé par un vierge lors de 
  l'installation ? Dois-je sauvegarder le my.cnf actuel avant de
  lancer la mise à jour ?
 
  Cordialement
  Olivier
 
 
  Le 18 novembre 2012 18:16, pmenier patr...@pmenier.dynalias.net 
  mailto:patr...@pmenier.dynalias.net a écrit :
 
  Le 18/11/2012 08:45, Olivier Kazmierowski a écrit :
 
  Bonjour,
 
  Suite à une mise à jour chaotique d'un serveur Lenny en
  Squeeze (http://www.debian-fr.org/erreur-udev-mi ... 40969.html
  
  http://www.debian-fr.org/erreur-udev-mise-a-jour-lenny-squeeze-t40969.html),
 
 
  je constate que certaines choses ne fonctionnent pas comme
  il le faudrait. En
  effet, le serveur MySQL ne semble pas lancé.
  En faisant un mysqld restart, j'obtiens comme réponse
  mysqld : Too many arguments.
  En faisant un ps aux | grep mysql, j'obtiens :
  Image
  http://www.heberger-image.fr/images/44827_mysqlCapture.png.html
 
  Enfin, en faisant un mysql -v, je constate que le serveur
  MysSQL est resté en
  version 5.0 et n'a pas été mis à jour en version 5.1
 
  Pourriez-vous me conseiller ?
 
  Cordialement
  Olivier Kazmierowski
 
  Bonjour,
 
  Il faut que tu précises: mysql-server-5.1 dans ton apt-get
  install.
 
  De plus méfie-toi du fichier de conf (/etc/mysql/my.cnf) qui
  peut contenir des instructions non reconnues par la nouvelle
  version. Pour un premier démarrage tu peux activer les logs via ce
  fichier (et les désactiver lorsque tout fonctionnera).
 
  #log   = /var/log/mysql/mysql.log
 
  Patrick
 
 
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Bonjour,

Pour ma part c'était l'option skip-bdb qui faisait tout planter

http://bugs.mysql.com/bug.php?id=50336

Bruno

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Re: PC éteint qui consomme[identifié]

2012-11-19 Thread C. Mourad Jaber



Le 18/11/2012 16:07, François Boisson a écrit :

Le Sun, 18 Nov 2012 14:32:44 +0100
C. Mourad Jaber m...@nativobject.net a écrit:


Le 18/11/2012 11:23, François Boisson a écrit :

Si je regarde le noyau (arch/x86/kernel/rtc.c), il semble que la mise à
jour de l'horloge se fait exactement 500ms après la demande ce qui est
long.  Je vais voir si il ne suffit pas de rajouter 1s de délai lors de
l'extinction de la machine...

François Boisson

Ce serait effectivement plus logique !
Pour mettre quand même à jour l'horloge matériel...

Bon, ça n'est pas ça. C'est donc un pbm plus compliqué du noyau.
Je vais faire un message nouveau rapport de bug.

François Boisson

Je confirme testé sur mon vaio (noyau 3.5 trunk) cette nuit, hier 16h, 35% de batterie, ce 
matin 9h, 15%...


Aucun changement de mon coté avec cette option !

++

Mourad

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Re: PC éteint qui consomme[identifié]

2012-11-19 Thread François Boisson


 Je confirme testé sur mon vaio (noyau 3.5 trunk) cette nuit, hier 16h, 35%
 de batterie, ce matin 9h, 15%...
 
 Aucun changement de mon coté avec cette option !

Hum, y compris avec le script qui supprime tous les wakeup possibles?

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Re: PC éteint qui consomme[identifié]

On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 17:52:32 +0100
François Boisson user.anti-s...@maison.homelinux.net wrote:

 
 Hum, y compris avec le script qui supprime tous les wakeup possibles?
 
C'est malheureusement tout à fait possible, sony se faisant un devoir
de faire chier les utilisateurs d'OS  logiciels libres (entre autres...)

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script pour imagemagick

2012-11-19 Thread Bernard Schoenacker

bonjour,

je recherche à convertir des images avec imagemagick et j'ai un
souchis simple, dans l'arborescence j'ai des *.jpeg et *.jpg, mais
comment le faire passer dans le script en une seule passe?

j'utilise :

-a) rename ( man rename )
-b) detox  ( man detox )
-c) tree | awk '/jp*g/ {print $2}'
-d) imagemagick ( convert ... )

slt
bernard

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Re: [un peu HS ?] Iceweasel n'affiche pas la cartographie du Vendée Globe

2012-11-19 Thread andre_debian

  Le 18/11/2012 20:02, Giraud Jean Louis a écrit :
  Je suis sous Squeeze avec Xfce comme environnement de bureau et
  Iceweasel 3.5.12 comme navigateur internet et je suis désolé car
  lorsque je clique sur l'onglet cartographie sur le site du Vendée
  Globe j'obtiens une page blanche avec juste le bandeau du haut où
  figure le chronomètre.
  Si quelqu'un a une idée pour résoudre ce problème il aura droit à toute
  ma reconnaissance.
_

Il s'agit d'Iceweasel mais à titre d'info :

http://www.vendeeglobe.org/fr/

http://tracking2012.vendeeglobe.org/fr/

avec le navigateur Firefox, pourtant version 10.1, ça passe très bien.

André

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postfix logs

Salut liste,

Je n'ai pas fait attention aux derniers changements dans postfix et
je viens de m'apercevoir que les logs bougent maintenant très peu:
par ex. j'ai juste trace du dernier restart, alors qu'il-y-a encore
un mois j'avais aussi la trace d'envoi des e-mails.

Qqun a-t'il un lien ou le nom de la VAR à ajouter/modifier pour retrouver
ce comportement?

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Re: [un peu HS ?] Iceweasel n'affiche pas la cartographie du Vendée Globe

2012-11-19 Thread Giraud Jean Louis

Le Sun, 18 Nov 2012 20:15:56 +0100,
Bzzz lazyvi...@gmx.com a écrit :

 On Sun, 18 Nov 2012 20:02:50 +0100
 Giraud Jean Louis giraud_jean-lo...@orange.fr wrote:
 
  lorsque je clique sur l'onglet cartographie sur le site du Vendée
  Globe j'obtiens une page blanche avec juste le bandeau du haut où
  figure le chronomètre. 
 
 As-tu autorisé cookies  JS?
 

oui

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Re: [un peu HS ?] Iceweasel n'affiche pas la cartographie du Vendée Globe

2012-11-19 Thread maderios


On 11/18/2012 08:02 PM, Giraud Jean Louis wrote:

Bonjour,
Je suis sous Squeeze avec Xfce comme environnement de bureau et
Iceweasel 3.5.12 comme navigateur internet et je suis désolé car
lorsque je clique sur l'onglet cartographie sur le site du Vendée
Globe j'obtiens une page blanche avec juste le bandeau du haut où
figure le chronomètre.

C'est du flash donc met à jour ton lecteur flash directement sur le site 
adobe par ex...


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Re: [un peu HS ?] Iceweasel n'affiche pas la cartographie du Vendée Globe

2012-11-19 Thread Giraud Jean Louis

Le Mon, 19 Nov 2012 13:21:36 +0100,
VieuxGeek DuSystem skazix@gmail.com a écrit :

 Pour info
 
 http://mozilla.debian.net/
 
 enjoy
 
 Stef
merci - j'ai suivi ce tuto et j'ai maintenant Iceweasel version 10.0.10
mais si la page d'accueil du site du Vendée Globe s'affiche plus
rapidement je n'ai en revanche toujours pas accès à la cartographie. 


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Re: script pour imagemagick

Le Mon, 19 Nov 2012 18:20:01 +0100, Bernard Schoenacker a écrit :


   je recherche à convertir des images avec imagemagick et j'ai un 
souchis
   simple, dans l'arborescence j'ai des *.jpeg et *.jpg, mais 
comment le
   faire passer dans le script en une seule passe?

plus simple :
for i in $jpg $jpeg ; do ...

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Re: script pour imagemagick

Le Mon, 19 Nov 2012 18:20:01 +0100, Bernard Schoenacker a écrit :

   je recherche à convertir des images avec imagemagick et j'ai un 
souchis
   simple, dans l'arborescence j'ai des *.jpeg et *.jpg, mais 
comment le
   faire passer dans le script en une seule passe?

for in in $(ls *jpg *jpeg); do ...etc
done

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Re: [un peu HS ?] Iceweasel n'affiche pas la cartographie du Vendée Globe

2012-11-19 Thread Yannick VOYEAUD

Le 19/11/2012 20:08, Giraud Jean Louis a écrit :
 Le Mon, 19 Nov 2012 13:21:36 +0100,
 VieuxGeek DuSystem skazix@gmail.com a écrit :
 
 Pour info

 http://mozilla.debian.net/

 enjoy

 Stef
 merci - j'ai suivi ce tuto et j'ai maintenant Iceweasel version 10.0.10
 mais si la page d'accueil du site du Vendée Globe s'affiche plus
 rapidement je n'ai en revanche toujours pas accès à la cartographie. 
 
 

Re,

Bizarre moi je n'ai pas ce problème!
Je ne suis pas une flèche donc vérifies les autres conseils qui t'ont
été donnés.
Je viens de tester donc pour moi c'est Ok.

Pour Java regardes si tu as bien la dernière version du JDK (ou JRE) libre.

Amitiés

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Re: [un peu HS ?] Iceweasel n'affiche pas la cartographie du Vendée Globe

2012-11-19 Thread Yannick VOYEAUD

Le 19/11/2012 13:21, VieuxGeek DuSystem a écrit :
 Pour info 
 
 http://mozilla.debian.net/
 
 enjoy
 
 Stef

Bonsoir,

Merci pour l'adresse! J'ai pu mettre mon portable à jour sur ce point.

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Re: script pour imagemagick

Le Mon, 19 Nov 2012 20:40:02 +0100, moi-meme a écrit :


 plus simple :
 for i in $jpg $jpeg ; do ...

que je suis c... (l'âge, le blanc, le chichon, etc)

for i in *jpg *jpeg ; do ...

bien entendu. 

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Re: script pour imagemagick

On 19 Nov 2012 20:20:02 GMT
moi-meme chie...@free.fr wrote:

 
 que je suis c... (l'âge, le blanc, le chichon, etc)

C'est le mélange blanc-chichon. Il faut lui préférer cassoulet+amphétamines

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Re: script pour imagemagick

Le Mon, 19 Nov 2012 22:50:01 +0100, Bzzz a écrit :

 que je suis c... (l'âge, le blanc, le chichon, etc)
 
 C'est le mélange blanc-chichon. Il faut lui préférer
 cassoulet+amphétamines

cassoulet-rouge-amphétamines ?

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Re: script pour imagemagick

On 19 Nov 2012 22:12:39 GMT
moi-meme chie...@free.fr wrote:

 
 cassoulet-rouge-amphétamines ?

Ha nan, goutte; faut pas déconner avec les mélanges, le rouge ça fait péter.

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Fwd: Re: [Debian-handbook-translators] Update

2012-11-19 Thread Izharul Haq

Salam,

Silahkan menggunakan reply list bila anda menggunakan email client
seperti Icedove atau Thunderbird.

Diskusi perihal kesepakatan untuk istilah-istilah tertentu sebagaimana
yang om Herpiko maksud bisa kita lakukan di milis penerjemah, sebagian
dari kami menggunakan daftar istilah yang ada di sini [1] dan ini [2],
bila pada daftar-daftar tersebut tidak ada yang dicari, saya pribadi
menggunakan open-tran [3]  proz [4], nah...bila tidak ditemukan juga
baru tanya di milis hehehe...dari rekan-rekan yang lain mungkin ada masukan?


1.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Al2WiJoQjLAvcEw5QjFZY3dVMmtZQ2llZVFyMzVuWVEhl=in#gid=11
2. http://iddp.deb-id.org/#Pranala_luar
3. http://id.open-tran.eu/
4.
http://www.proz.com/?sp=ksearchsubmit=1from=engto=indwhole_words=yedited=yunedited=yglossaries=yglosspost=ywikiwords=y

 Original Message 
Subject: Re: [Debian-handbook-translators] Update
Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 20:03:56 +0800
From: Herpiko Dwi Aguno herp...@ntb.linux.or.id
To: Izharul Haq atoz.chev...@yahoo.com

2012/11/16 Izharul Haq atoz.chev...@yahoo.com

 Salam,

 Daftar Penerjemah debian-handbook saat ini:
 1. (Dimas Yudha P.) dhiemaz_mitnick
 2. goesspoerr
 3. (T. Surya Fajri) kilelme
 4. (Herpiko Dwi Aguno) piko
 5. (sutarman) shouso
 6. (Muhammad Iqbal Adan) tuanadan

 Penerjemah Aktif:

 NamaBerkas
 1. goesspoerr   00b_foreword
 2. (Herpiko Dwi Aguno) piko 00a_preface, 02_case-study, 04_installation

 Apabila rekan-rekan melakukan penerjemahan, silahkan gunakan fitur
 lock atau Lock this translation to notify others you're working with
 it. sebagai tanda bahwa anda sedang menerjemahkan berkas yang anda pilih.



Kalau ada waktu monggo diskusi yok pak. Saya pikir, sambil kerja kita mesti
diskusi perihal kesepakatan untuk istilah-istilah tertentu. Misal harddisk.
Apakah disebut harddisk saja atau cakram keras, dan sebagainya.


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Re: Compilar kernel para optimizacion


 hola buenos dias. veo que tienes tu correo con tu dominio mi pregunrta es
 como hiciste eso. ya que veo que no-ip

 www.lypef-warez.com

 Enviado desde mi iphone



 El 16/11/2012, a las 05:02, may...@maykel.sytes.net escribiÃ³:

 Hola muy buenas, tengo un debian y he compilado el kernel 3.6.6 stable.
 Arranca bien y demÃ¡s, pero me gustarÃa saber cÃ³mo podrÃa hacer para
 compilar el kernel de tal forma que vaya lo mÃ¡s optimizado posible, es
 decir, en el make menuconfig quÃ© opciones adicionales aÃ±adir o quitar
 para
 que vaya mÃ¡s rÃ¡pido.

 La idea es utilizar un antiguo portatil con debian para escritorio.

 Saludos y gracias de antemano.


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Primero empezaría con esto:

http://www.forat.info/2008/03/05/como-montar-un-servidor-web-con-linux-debian/

Y luego me metería al servidor de correo.

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Re: Compilar kernel para optimizacion


 Mini-guia rápida... :P

 * -0x
 * -march=native
 * -pipe : ahorra tiempo a la hora de compilar el kernel a costa de
 utilizar más RAM en vez de acceso al disco duro.
 * Desactiva todo rastro de información de depuración (debug) que
 encuentres. Aunque es muy recomendable leerse la información de cada
 sección antes de tocar nada.
 * Todo lo que no estés seguro de usar como módulo (m)
 * Todo lo que estás totalmente seguro que vas a usar incluyelo en la
 imagen (y)

 Es preferible compilar una característica como módulo, aunque tarde más
 el proceso de generación de la imagen, que no hacerlo.

 ... y a estas horas no recuerdo mucho más, aunque seguro que se me
 escapa algo.


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Mil gracias a todos.

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Re: Compilar kernel para optimizacion



 Mini-guia rápida... :P

 * -0x
 * -march=native
 * -pipe : ahorra tiempo a la hora de compilar el kernel a costa de
 utilizar más RAM en vez de acceso al disco duro.
 * Desactiva todo rastro de información de depuración (debug) que
 encuentres. Aunque es muy recomendable leerse la información de cada
 sección antes de tocar nada.
 * Todo lo que no estés seguro de usar como módulo (m)
 * Todo lo que estás totalmente seguro que vas a usar incluyelo en la
 imagen (y)

 Es preferible compilar una característica como módulo, aunque tarde más
 el proceso de generación de la imagen, que no hacerlo.

 ... y a estas horas no recuerdo mucho más, aunque seguro que se me
 escapa algo.


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 Mil gracias a todos.

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Muy bueno, voy a ello...

http://users.on.net/~ckolivas/kernel/

Gracias, esto es lo que quería, algo que ya esté optimizado y que se aplique.

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Re: Compilar kernel para optimizacion




 Mini-guia rápida... :P

 * -0x
 * -march=native
 * -pipe : ahorra tiempo a la hora de compilar el kernel a costa de
 utilizar más RAM en vez de acceso al disco duro.
 * Desactiva todo rastro de información de depuración (debug) que
 encuentres. Aunque es muy recomendable leerse la información de cada
 sección antes de tocar nada.
 * Todo lo que no estés seguro de usar como módulo (m)
 * Todo lo que estás totalmente seguro que vas a usar incluyelo en la
 imagen (y)

 Es preferible compilar una característica como módulo, aunque tarde más
 el proceso de generación de la imagen, que no hacerlo.

 ... y a estas horas no recuerdo mucho más, aunque seguro que se me
 escapa algo.


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 Mil gracias a todos.

 Saludos.

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 Muy bueno, voy a ello...

 http://users.on.net/~ckolivas/kernel/

 Gracias, esto es lo que quería, algo que ya esté optimizado y que se
 aplique.

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Probado con kernel estale 3.6.7 y aplicado el parche .bz2 que aparece en
la web. En teoría, es válido el patch para 3.6.* pero yo aplicado el
parche al kernel 3.6.7 y luego compilado y todo OK, ningún problema.

Pero cuando va arrancar se queda en Loading ramdisk... y no tira..le
pasado el comando debug al kernel pero sigue sin tirar y no muestra
información..

No sé si no será válido ése kernel o algo así...Pruebo con el 3.6 mainline??

Por cierto, tengo varios kernels y me arrancan todos menos el que acabo de
compilar...es raro si se ha hecho todo OK.

Saludos y gracias.


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Re: Sin entorno gráfico tras actualizar el kernel en Debian Wheezy (Solucionado)

2012-11-19 Thread José Manuel (EB8CXW)




El 10/11/12 00:58, José Manuel (EB8CXW) escribió:



El 07/11/12 18:57, José Manuel (EB8CXW) escribió:

Hola

Tengo Debian testing, actualice el sistema y entre las 
actualizaciones estaba el nuevo kernel linux 3.2.0-4-686-pae, 
reinicie el sistema y mi sorpresa es que no aparece el entorno gráfico.
He buscado en Google, pero no encuentro nada o no hago una búsqueda 
correcta por lo que he tenido que volver al anterior kernel

linux 3.2.0-3-686-pae
Me podíais indicar cuál es el error y como solucionarlo para utilizar 
el nuevo kernel. Gracias de antemano.





Hola

En primer lugar gracias a tod@s que han contestado intentando ayudarme 
en mi problema.


En segundo lugar viendo que yo no se explicarme bien para que me 
puedan ayudar en este asunto, he decidido borrar el nuevo kernel y 
quedarme con el antiguo (linux 3.2.0-3-686-pae) que me esta 
funcionando bien (de momento, toquemos madera para que siga así), 
hasta que aparezca uno nuevo que se actualice sin problemas.


Disculpen las molestias que les he ocasionado.

Espero seguir aprendiendo de todos ustedes, y agradecerles de antemano 
futuras ayudas sobre temas que no pueda solucionar con San Google o de 
algún post que trate temas parecidos a los mios.




Hola a tod@s,

No me pregunte el motivo de solucionarse de esta manera, pues no tengo 
ni idea, lo que se es que se soluciono. Lei en Google algo relacionado 
con los headers. Por lo que instales los correspondientes al nuevo 
kernel ( linux-headers-3.2.0-4-686-pae) y ya tengo entorno gráfico con 
este nuevo Kerne y lo estoy, de momento, utilizándolo sin problemas.


Reitero mi agradecimiento a tod@s por su estimada ayuda.

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Si vas a escribir.. piensa en esto:
no digas nada que no sea mas precioso que el silencio!!!


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Re: Holddelete del spam y reenvio del correo lícito

El Sun, 18 Nov 2012 21:26:49 +0100, jors escribió:

 Con postfix + spamassassin estoy intentando hacer (en un proxy de salida
 de correo) que aquellos correos que spamassassin catalogue y marque como
 spam (en sus cabeceras), postfix los ponga en la cola de deferred para
 posteriormente revisarlos (y si son lícitos, marcarlos como ham y
 reencolarlos para su envío; y viceversa, marcándolos como spam y
 descartándolos).

(...)

 Spamassassin funciona y el header_check también, porque los correos con
 el X-Spam-Flag a YES son puestos en hold/deferred. Pero si luego trato
 de volver a poner estos correos en hold/deferred en la cola de envios,
 vuelve a entrar en el filtro del header_checks y de nuevo a ponerlo en
 hold (y así en un bucle infinito), con lo que el correo núnca llega a
 salir.
 
 ¿Alguna idea de cómo hacer lo que pretendo?

Se me ocurre que podrías añadir un jugador más (amavisd-new) que me 
parece que te podría servir de enlace para lo que pretendes (revisa 
esta doc¹) aunque personalmente prefiero que sean los propios usuarios 
los que se encarguen de catalogar/marcar los mensajes que les llegan 
para lo cual cada usuario dispone de una carpeta imap del tipo /spam, /
ham y /virus a donde van a para los mensajes según hayan sido 
clasificados. Los mensajes de spam se eliminan automáticamente cada 15 o 
30 días (según configuraciones) y el usuario puede ir pasando los falsos 
positivos a la carpeta de /ham para que la rutina del filtro bayesiano 
del SA pueda aprender patrones válidos de estos mensajes (--sa-learn).

¹http://www.ijs.si/software/amavisd/#features-users

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Re: Compilar kernel para optimizacion

El Mon, 19 Nov 2012 10:23:05 +0100, maykel escribió:

 Mini-guia rápida... :P

(...)

 Mil gracias a todos.


 Muy bueno, voy a ello...
 
 http://users.on.net/~ckolivas/kernel/
 
 Gracias, esto es lo que quería, algo que ya esté optimizado y que se
 aplique.

Nada, nada... queremos benchmarks comparativos para comprobar la 
agilidad del sistema optimizado ;-P

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Re: Sin entorno gráfico tras actualizar el kernel en Debian Wheezy (Solucionado)

El Mon, 19 Nov 2012 13:38:34 +, José Manuel (EB8CXW) escribió:

 No me pregunte el motivo de solucionarse de esta manera, pues no tengo
 ni idea, lo que se es que se soluciono. Lei en Google algo relacionado
 con los headers. Por lo que instales los correspondientes al nuevo
 kernel ( linux-headers-3.2.0-4-686-pae) y ya tengo entorno gráfico con
 este nuevo Kerne y lo estoy, de momento, utilizándolo sin problemas.
 
 Reitero mi agradecimiento a tod@s por su estimada ayuda.

Perfecto... eso apunta a que has debido de compilar el driver de nvidia y 
por eso al cambiar de kernel se te rompió el controlador. Pero todo 
esto son conjeturas, sólo leyendo los registros podrás saber qué es lo 
que ha pasado realmente, más que nada para que cuando te vuelva a pasar 
sepas qué hacer :-)

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Re: Compilar kernel para optimizacion


 El Mon, 19 Nov 2012 10:23:05 +0100, maykel escribiÃ³:

 Mini-guia rÃ¡pida... :P

 (...)

 Mil gracias a todos.


 Muy bueno, voy a ello...

 http://users.on.net/~ckolivas/kernel/

 Gracias, esto es lo que querÃa, algo que ya estÃ© optimizado y que se
 aplique.

 Nada, nada... queremos benchmarks comparativos para comprobar la
 agilidad del sistema optimizado ;-P

 Saludos,

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Los Benchmarks tendrán que esperar porque no me arranca...se queda en
Loading ramdisk...

Lo he compilado y probado en un ubuntu, un fedora y un fuduntu. He
compilado el kernel 3.6.6 en ambas distros y sin problema

Pero al aplicarle el parche de kolivas, en cuanto reboto la máquina e
intento arrancar desde ése kernel se queda ahí...

Por supuesto me he fijado si me había agregado las entradas al grub(que si
lo ha hecho) y que me genere las imagees de arranque initrd y vmlinux(que
también las ha generado).

No sé que podrá ser, pero me huele a que puede ser al meterle el patch.



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Re: Compilar kernel para optimizacion



 El Mon, 19 Nov 2012 10:23:05 +0100, maykel escribiÃ³:

 Mini-guia rÃ¡pida... :P

 (...)

 Mil gracias a todos.


 Muy bueno, voy a ello...

 http://users.on.net/~ckolivas/kernel/

 Gracias, esto es lo que querÃa, algo que ya estÃ© optimizado y que se
 aplique.

 Nada, nada... queremos benchmarks comparativos para comprobar la
 agilidad del sistema optimizado ;-P

 Saludos,

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 Los Benchmarks tendrán que esperar porque no me arranca...se queda en
 Loading ramdisk...

 Lo he compilado y probado en un ubuntu, un fedora y un fuduntu. He
 compilado el kernel 3.6.6 en ambas distros y sin problema

 Pero al aplicarle el parche de kolivas, en cuanto reboto la máquina e
 intento arrancar desde ése kernel se queda ahí...

 Por supuesto me he fijado si me había agregado las entradas al grub(que si
 lo ha hecho) y que me genere las imagees de arranque initrd y vmlinux(que
 también las ha generado).

 No sé que podrá ser, pero me huele a que puede ser al meterle el patch.



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Ummm

http://ck.kolivas.org/patches/bfs/3.0/3.6/

Fix boot issueTendré que aplicar los 3 parches antes de compilar??


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Re: Compilar kernel para optimizacion

El Mon, 19 Nov 2012 17:14:44 +0100, maykel escribió:

(...)

 Muy bueno, voy a ello...

 http://users.on.net/~ckolivas/kernel/

 Gracias, esto es lo que querÃa, algo que ya estÃ© optimizado y que se
 aplique.

 Nada, nada... queremos benchmarks comparativos para comprobar la
 agilidad del sistema optimizado ;-P

 Los Benchmarks tendrán que esperar porque no me arranca...se queda en
 Loading ramdisk...

Hum...

 Lo he compilado y probado en un ubuntu, un fedora y un fuduntu. He
 compilado el kernel 3.6.6 en ambas distros y sin problema

Se supone que el parche es para el kernel que enlazan en esa misma página.
 
 Pero al aplicarle el parche de kolivas, en cuanto reboto la máquina e
 intento arrancar desde ése kernel se queda ahí...

¿Cómo has compilado el kernel en cada caso? Prueba a compilar ese mismo 
kernel sin aplicar el parche a ver si logras que inicie.
 
 Por supuesto me he fijado si me había agregado las entradas al grub(que
 si lo ha hecho) y que me genere las imagees de arranque initrd y
 vmlinux(que también las ha generado).
 
 No sé que podrá ser, pero me huele a que puede ser al meterle el patch.

Es un parche muy extenso...

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Re: OT Re: antivirus proxy SOLUCIONADO

2012-11-19 Thread Trujillo Carmona, Antonio


El vie, 16-11-2012 a las 09:53 +0100, Esteban Torres Rodríguez escribió:
 El día 15 de noviembre de 2012 14:48, Trujillo Carmona, Antonio
 antonio.trujillo.s...@juntadeandalucia.es escribió:
 
  El vie, 09-11-2012 a las 16:48 +0100, Esteban Torres Rodríguez escribió:
  .../...
  Nos puedes dar mas detalles de como está montado? Tengo que migrar el
  servicio de 2 proxy en sedes diferentes a centralizarlo todo a 3 proxy
  en la sede central y todo consejo me interesa.
 
  Cuantas máquinas forman el servicio? Utilizan la cache preguntandose
  entre ellas o tienen una particion compartida con algun sistema de
  ficheros  como GFS (Claro está, si tienes la posibilidad que puedan
  compartir mismo almacenamiento)? Que sistema de ficheros utiliza tu
  cache? Como autentican los usuarios? Active Directory? Utilizas Single
  Sign-On?
 
  .../...
 
  El servicio en dado por una sola maquina montada en un proliant DL360,
  con una CPU dual core Intel Xeon a 2.33GHz y 4G de memoria.
  Tengo una maquina virtual (VMware ESX) para dar el servicio en caso de
  caída de la principal.
 
 Esta es una de mis dudas. Tengo unas máquinas RX220 / RX200 para poder
 montar el proxy, pero el rendimiento de I/O de los discos es malo. Al
 final me he decantado por montarlo en virtual ya que ahí tendré mas
 juego con el hardware. Pero, que opinas de montarlo todo en virtual?
 Ya dependes de la capa virtualizada.
 
Como te he comentado la maquina de respaldo la tenemos virtualizada,
pero hay un gran punto de problemas en la virtualización, es la red.
La red se comparte entre todos los equipos virtuales (tenemos unos 120
en 4 ESX fisicos) por lo que si repartes 2G (dos tarjetas de red de 1G)
entre todos estos servidores el ancho de banda y la latencia que quedan
son muy escasos, por eso servidores como el nagios y el proxy los hemos
tenido que desvirtualizar, si tu disponibilidad de virtualización es
distinta no creo que tengas problemas.

  No lo he montado en cluster por que fallo, y todavía no se por que,
  tengo montado un cluster con maquinas iguales y funciona perfecto, pero
  este no. Quizás el fallo sea por las versiones del corosin que al
  estar en testin cambia, lo tengo en asuntos pendientes el volver a
  montarlo.
 
 Las máquinas que yo estoy montando las tengo detrás de un balanceador
 con roundrobin.
 
  La maquina principal valida contra un A.D. montado sobre unos windows
  2008R2 valida a los usuarios por kerberos o por los ticket de windows,
  además de por clave, pero solo activamos la validación de usuarios de
  forma puntual, pues tenemos problemas con algunas maquinas, y es que
  cuando lo activas el proxy tiene que identificar a todos los usuarios y
  las conexiones hechas por los sistemas (actualizaciones de software...)
  no tienen usuario valido, por lo que poner el sistema en orden da mucho
  trabajo.
 
 Esto no lo entiendo muy bien. Dices que la validación de los usuarios
 es contra AD, bien. Pero haces el Single Sign-On? Yo, los clientes los
 tengo configurados con un .pac para poder poner las exclusiones y
 redirigir el tráfico como yo quiera. Lo de la autenticación me
 interesa mucho, ya que mi jefe está caprichado en que los usuarios no
 tengan que poner usuario y contraseña para poder navegar y eso, según
 las pruebas que hice en su día, ralentiza mucho y hay páginas que por
 un bug del firefox no hacen bien la autenticación (al menos esto me
 paso en su día).
 
Si, cuando lo hemos activado, se hace Single Sign-On, por cierto para
que funcione en firefox hay que cambiar un atributo entrando en el
about:config :
network.automatic-ntlm-auth.allow-proxies
network.automatic-ntlm-auth.trusted-uris (donde tienes que poner el
dominio).
Incluso funciona el Single desde mi Debian (la sesión de gnome también
valida contra dominio)

 
  Además identificar por usuario mete retardos (que pueden ser minimizados
  ampliando el tiempo y tamaño de la cache, pero los mete).
 
 Ampliando tiempo? a que tiempo te refieres?
 
Perdón hablaba de memoria, el tiempo de la cache solo se ajusta para la
identificación basic, esta es la configuración que ponemos (por si te
sirve):

### negociación kerberos e identificación ntlm
#auth_param negotiate program /usr/local/bin/negotiate_wrapper -d
--ntlm /usr/bin/ntlm_auth --helper-protocol=squid-2.5-ntlmssp
--domain=HVN
 --kerberos /usr/lib/squid3/squid_kerb_auth -d 
#auth_param negotiate children 10
#auth_param negotiate keep_alive off
#
 identificación ntlm pura
#auth_param ntlm program /usr/bin/ntlm_auth --diagnostics
--helper-protocol=squid-2.5-ntlmssp --domain=HVN
#auth_param ntlm children 10
#auth_param ntlm keep_alive off
#
 identificación basic usando ldap para clientes no identificados por
kerberos/ntlm
#auth_param basic program /usr/lib/squid3/squid_ldap_auth -R -s sub \
#-b dc=hvn,dc=sas,dc=junta-andalucia,dc=es \
#-D u_servicio_cur...@hvn.sas.junta-andalucia.es
-W /etc/squid3/ldappass.txt \
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#auth_param

Re: Compilar kernel para optimizacion


 El Mon, 19 Nov 2012 17:14:44 +0100, maykel escribiÃ³:

 (...)

 Muy bueno, voy a ello...

 http://users.on.net/~ckolivas/kernel/

 Gracias, esto es lo que querÃÂa, algo que ya estÃÂ© optimizado y
 que se
 aplique.

 Nada, nada... queremos benchmarks comparativos para comprobar la
 agilidad del sistema optimizado ;-P

 Los Benchmarks tendrÃ¡n que esperar porque no me arranca...se queda en
 Loading ramdisk...

 Hum...

 Lo he compilado y probado en un ubuntu, un fedora y un fuduntu. He
 compilado el kernel 3.6.6 en ambas distros y sin problema

 Se supone que el parche es para el kernel que enlazan en esa misma
 pÃ¡gina.

 Pero al aplicarle el parche de kolivas, en cuanto reboto la mÃ¡quina e
 intento arrancar desde Ã©se kernel se queda ahÃ...

 Â¿CÃ³mo has compilado el kernel en cada caso? Prueba a compilar ese mismo
 kernel sin aplicar el parche a ver si logras que inicie.


El kernel le he compilado sin el patch perfectamente, tanto el 3.6.6 como
el 3.6.0 a secas. En teoría y según su web:

http://users.on.net/~ckolivas/kernel/

Es aplicable a 3.6.x

Proceso que realizo:

wget http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v3.0/linux-3.6.tar.bz2

He probado ese y este:

http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v3.0/linux-3.6.7.tar.bz2

Descomprimo:

tar xfj linux

cd linux...

wget http://ck.kolivas.org/patches/3.0/3.6/3.6-ck1/patch-3.6-ck1.bz2

Aplico el parche que viene comprimido, directamente:

bzcat patch-3.6-ck1.bz2 | patch -p1

Se aplica OK.

Ahora realizo un make menuconfig y dejo las opciones por defecto(en teoría
ya estaría modificado por el parche de Kolivas).

También probé con cp -a /boot/config...(kernel actual uname -r) a
/usr/src/linux.../.config

Y luego el make.

Finalmente:

make modules_install install

Corríjanme por favor si me equivoco o he realizado algo mal, pero vamos
así es como he compilado el 3.6.6 y sin ningún problema me arranca...

Que pena que no arranque, me hubiera gustado ver la diferencia.

Saludos.



 Por supuesto me he fijado si me habÃa agregado las entradas al grub(que
 si lo ha hecho) y que me genere las imagees de arranque initrd y
 vmlinux(que tambiÃ©n las ha generado).

 No sÃ© que podrÃ¡ ser, pero me huele a que puede ser al meterle el
 patch.

 Es un parche muy extenso...

 Saludos,

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Re: Postfix mensaje de bienvenida

2012-11-19 Thread Roberto José Blandino Cisneros

Prueba con postfix.admin una interfaz para administrar postfix desde
el web. Creo que habia un welcome_text en la configuración.


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Sobre grid computing

2012-11-19 Thread Roberto José Blandino Cisneros

¿Alguien a desarrollado o hecho algun grid?

He estado leyendo ya he realizado clusters en alta disponibilidad y
alto desempeño tipo beowulf, pero estoy interesado en el grid
computing.

Encontre el proyecto globus, no he podido hacer el laboratorio ni he
podido probarlo por problemas durante la instalación que aun estoy
depurando.

¿Conocen si ya tocaron este tema en esta lista?
Encontre este link
http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2011/12/msg00466.html

Gracias. Si alguien conce del tema cualquier comentario sería bienvenido.

Por cierto ya he probado OpenMosix, pero ando buscando grid computing
no load balancing.


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Re: Compilar kernel para optimizacion

El Mon, 19 Nov 2012 18:04:19 +0100, maykel escribió:

(...)

 Â¿CÃ³mo has compilado el kernel en cada caso? Prueba a compilar ese
 mismo kernel sin aplicar el parche a ver si logras que inicie.


 El kernel le he compilado sin el patch perfectamente, tanto el 3.6.6
 como el 3.6.0 a secas. En teoría y según su web:
 
 http://users.on.net/~ckolivas/kernel/
 
 Es aplicable a 3.6.x
 
 Proceso que realizo:
 
 wget http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v3.0/linux-3.6.tar.bz2
 
 He probado ese y este:
 
 http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v3.0/linux-3.6.7.tar.bz2

En teoría tendría que ser el primero.
 
 Descomprimo:
 
 tar xfj linux
 
 cd linux...
 
 wget http://ck.kolivas.org/patches/3.0/3.6/3.6-ck1/patch-3.6-ck1.bz2
 
 Aplico el parche que viene comprimido, directamente:
 
 bzcat patch-3.6-ck1.bz2 | patch -p1
 
 Se aplica OK.
 
 Ahora realizo un make menuconfig y dejo las opciones por defecto(en
 teoría ya estaría modificado por el parche de Kolivas).
 
 También probé con cp -a /boot/config...(kernel actual uname -r) a
 /usr/src/linux.../.config
 
 Y luego el make.
 
 Finalmente:
 
 make modules_install install

Prueba con esto (documentado aquí¹):

fakeroot make-kpkg --initrd --revision=3.6kolivas kernel_image

¹http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch08s06.html.en

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herramienta par aquitar proteccion pendrive handisk

2012-11-19 Thread luis


Hola a todos

Tengo una memoria Scandisk y está protegida contra escritura, no se le 
puede borrar nada, me la dio un amigo para que se la formateara pero no 
puedo.


Como elimitar toda la partición y elimirar la protección a ficheros ???

Ahh la memoria no tiene ningun boton para proteger contra escritura es 
por soft


A ver quien me da una mano


Gracias a todos a ver si alguien me recomienda alguna aplicación en 
Linux para eliminar la protección a la memoria usb handisk de 8 GB






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Re: Holddelete del spam y reenvio del correo lícito

2012-11-19 Thread jors


On 19/11/12 15:25, Camaleón wrote:

El Sun, 18 Nov 2012 21:26:49 +0100, jors escribió:


Con postfix + spamassassin estoy intentando hacer (en un proxy de salida
de correo) que aquellos correos que spamassassin catalogue y marque como
spam (en sus cabeceras), postfix los ponga en la cola de deferred para
posteriormente revisarlos (y si son lícitos, marcarlos como ham y
reencolarlos para su envío; y viceversa, marcándolos como spam y
descartándolos).


(...)


Spamassassin funciona y el header_check también, porque los correos con
el X-Spam-Flag a YES son puestos en hold/deferred. Pero si luego trato
de volver a poner estos correos en hold/deferred en la cola de envios,
vuelve a entrar en el filtro del header_checks y de nuevo a ponerlo en
hold (y así en un bucle infinito), con lo que el correo núnca llega a
salir.

¿Alguna idea de cómo hacer lo que pretendo?


Se me ocurre que podrías añadir un jugador más (amavisd-new) que me
parece que te podría servir de enlace para lo que pretendes (revisa
esta doc¹) aunque personalmente prefiero que sean los propios usuarios
los que se encarguen de catalogar/marcar los mensajes que les llegan
para lo cual cada usuario dispone de una carpeta imap del tipo /spam, /
ham y /virus a donde van a para los mensajes según hayan sido
clasificados. Los mensajes de spam se eliminan automáticamente cada 15 o
30 días (según configuraciones) y el usuario puede ir pasando los falsos
positivos a la carpeta de /ham para que la rutina del filtro bayesiano
del SA pueda aprender patrones válidos de estos mensajes (--sa-learn).

¹http://www.ijs.si/software/amavisd/#features-users


Gracias, le voy a echar un vistazo a amavisd-new y la opción de 
quarantine. Algo que lo integra y complementa y he tocado un poco es 
maia mailguard, pero al no estar en los repositorios me causa 
reticencias (manias personales relacionadas con el mantenimiento).


En lo que respecta a spamassassin con directorios para la clasificación 
de ham/spam por parte de los usuarios, no sería una opción porque se 
trata de filtrar correo saliente. Y lo mismo aplica para el quarantine. 
Se trataría en todo caso de ir enseñando a spamassassin a discernir el 
correo saliente bueno (el que envian los clientes conscientemente) del 
malo (el spam que se pueda colar viniendo de cuentas lícitas cuando se 
da hijacking de contraseñas).


Gracias de nuevo y otro saludo,
jors


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Re: herramienta par aquitar proteccion pendrive handisk

2012-11-19 Thread Javier Santiesteban

bueno hasta ahora no he conocido ningun programa ya sea por win2 o por 
linux que arregle este problema pero si me ha selvido este comandito 
para algunos casos espero que te sirva


dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdc

sdc=memoria con problemas

salu2

El 19/11/12 15:02, l...@ida.cu escribió:

Hola a todos

Tengo una memoria Scandisk y está protegida contra escritura, no se le 
puede borrar nada, me la dio un amigo para que se la formateara pero 
no puedo.


Como elimitar toda la partición y elimirar la protección a ficheros ???

Ahh la memoria no tiene ningun boton para proteger contra escritura es 
por soft


A ver quien me da una mano


Gracias a todos a ver si alguien me recomienda alguna aplicación en 
Linux para eliminar la protección a la memoria usb handisk de 8 GB

Re: OT Re: antivirus proxy SOLUCIONADO

2012-11-19 Thread Esteban Torres Rodríguez

El día 19 de noviembre de 2012 17:49, Trujillo Carmona, Antonio
antonio.trujillo.s...@juntadeandalucia.es escribió:

 El vie, 16-11-2012 a las 09:53 +0100, Esteban Torres Rodríguez escribió:
 El día 15 de noviembre de 2012 14:48, Trujillo Carmona, Antonio
 antonio.trujillo.s...@juntadeandalucia.es escribió:
 
  El vie, 09-11-2012 a las 16:48 +0100, Esteban Torres Rodríguez escribió:
  .../...
  Nos puedes dar mas detalles de como está montado? Tengo que migrar el
  servicio de 2 proxy en sedes diferentes a centralizarlo todo a 3 proxy
  en la sede central y todo consejo me interesa.
 
  Cuantas máquinas forman el servicio? Utilizan la cache preguntandose
  entre ellas o tienen una particion compartida con algun sistema de
  ficheros  como GFS (Claro está, si tienes la posibilidad que puedan
  compartir mismo almacenamiento)? Que sistema de ficheros utiliza tu
  cache? Como autentican los usuarios? Active Directory? Utilizas Single
  Sign-On?
 
  .../...
 
  El servicio en dado por una sola maquina montada en un proliant DL360,
  con una CPU dual core Intel Xeon a 2.33GHz y 4G de memoria.
  Tengo una maquina virtual (VMware ESX) para dar el servicio en caso de
  caída de la principal.

 Esta es una de mis dudas. Tengo unas máquinas RX220 / RX200 para poder
 montar el proxy, pero el rendimiento de I/O de los discos es malo. Al
 final me he decantado por montarlo en virtual ya que ahí tendré mas
 juego con el hardware. Pero, que opinas de montarlo todo en virtual?
 Ya dependes de la capa virtualizada.

 Como te he comentado la maquina de respaldo la tenemos virtualizada,
 pero hay un gran punto de problemas en la virtualización, es la red.
 La red se comparte entre todos los equipos virtuales (tenemos unos 120
 en 4 ESX fisicos) por lo que si repartes 2G (dos tarjetas de red de 1G)
 entre todos estos servidores el ancho de banda y la latencia que quedan
 son muy escasos, por eso servidores como el nagios y el proxy los hemos
 tenido que desvirtualizar, si tu disponibilidad de virtualización es
 distinta no creo que tengas problemas.

jajajajajajaja, 4 esx para 120 virtuales? jajajajaja, perdona que me
de la risa pero me dan ganas de decirle a mi jefe que se pase por
vuestro cpd para que vea como se aprovechan los esx. Nosotros tenemos
30 esx para unas 150 virtuales. Por esto me da la risa, por que me
duele la boca de decirle a mi jefe que no aprovechamos todos los
servidores y que tenemos que ahorrar en licencias de Vmware. Pero
bueno, eso es otra película.

En temas de capacidad, como puedes ver, no tengo problemas.


  No lo he montado en cluster por que fallo, y todavía no se por que,
  tengo montado un cluster con maquinas iguales y funciona perfecto, pero
  este no. Quizás el fallo sea por las versiones del corosin que al
  estar en testin cambia, lo tengo en asuntos pendientes el volver a
  montarlo.

 Las máquinas que yo estoy montando las tengo detrás de un balanceador
 con roundrobin.

  La maquina principal valida contra un A.D. montado sobre unos windows
  2008R2 valida a los usuarios por kerberos o por los ticket de windows,
  además de por clave, pero solo activamos la validación de usuarios de
  forma puntual, pues tenemos problemas con algunas maquinas, y es que
  cuando lo activas el proxy tiene que identificar a todos los usuarios y
  las conexiones hechas por los sistemas (actualizaciones de software...)
  no tienen usuario valido, por lo que poner el sistema en orden da mucho
  trabajo.

 Esto no lo entiendo muy bien. Dices que la validación de los usuarios
 es contra AD, bien. Pero haces el Single Sign-On? Yo, los clientes los
 tengo configurados con un .pac para poder poner las exclusiones y
 redirigir el tráfico como yo quiera. Lo de la autenticación me
 interesa mucho, ya que mi jefe está caprichado en que los usuarios no
 tengan que poner usuario y contraseña para poder navegar y eso, según
 las pruebas que hice en su día, ralentiza mucho y hay páginas que por
 un bug del firefox no hacen bien la autenticación (al menos esto me
 paso en su día).

 Si, cuando lo hemos activado, se hace Single Sign-On, por cierto para
 que funcione en firefox hay que cambiar un atributo entrando en el
 about:config :
 network.automatic-ntlm-auth.allow-proxies
 network.automatic-ntlm-auth.trusted-uris (donde tienes que poner el
 dominio).
 Incluso funciona el Single desde mi Debian (la sesión de gnome también
 valida contra dominio)

Ok. Lo probaré. En su día, cuando configuré el Single Sign-On, lo hize
con ntlm también, pero esto, sabes que necesita hacer varias
conexiones antes de darle al usuario la página que solicita.

Yo estoy también en la lista de Squid y todos te recomiendan que
utilizes kerberos y dejes de lado ntlm. Quiero probarlo.

http://wiki.squid-cache.org/ConfigExamples/Authenticate/Kerberos




  Además identificar por usuario mete retardos (que pueden ser minimizados
  ampliando el tiempo y tamaño de la cache, pero los mete).

 Ampliando tiempo? a que tiempo te refieres?

 Perdón

Indexar Repositorios

2012-11-19 Thread ghaspaer


hola lista:

Les cuento que me he instalado apt-mirror y tengo un script que actuliza 
desde 00:00 a las 6:00am, el problema es que cuando intento actualizar 
desde el repositorio me aparece un error 404 y al parecer es por que el 
repositorio no termino de descargarse y por lo tanto no se indexaron los 
paquetes, alguien sabe como puedo hacer esto manualmente?

[OT] Servidor Multimedia vía Web.

2012-11-19 Thread Ramses

Hola a todos,

Estoy buscando un software para servir contenido multimedia vía web.

Es decir, este software instalado en un servidor, donde se configuren las 
carpetas que contienen las fotos, la música y los vídeos, etc, y desde un 
cliente Web, en otro equipo de la red, se ataque a este servidor multimedia y 
se pueda seleccionar el contenido a reproducir hacia el cliente...

Una especie de XBMC, pero que los clientes accedan a él mediante clientes Web 
para seleccionar el contenido a reproducir en el cliente...

¿Os habéis encontrado con algún software libre que realice estas funciones?


Saludos y gracias,

Ramses

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Re: Indexar Repositorios

2012-11-19 Thread Diego Sanchez

un error 404 indica que no puede leer el archivo que deberia estar.
posiblemente, te falte el archivo index.html, o bien el modulo
autoindex no este configurado

si entras en el directorio www (o el que este configurado) por
ftp/ssh/sftp; que ves?



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Re: [OT] Servidor Multimedia vía Web.

2012-11-19 Thread Carlos Zuniga

2012/11/19 Ramses ramses.sevi...@gmail.com:
 Hola a todos,

 Estoy buscando un software para servir contenido multimedia vía web.

 Es decir, este software instalado en un servidor, donde se configuren las 
 carpetas que contienen las fotos, la música y los vídeos, etc, y desde un 
 cliente Web, en otro equipo de la red, se ataque a este servidor multimedia y 
 se pueda seleccionar el contenido a reproducir hacia el cliente...

 Una especie de XBMC, pero que los clientes accedan a él mediante clientes Web 
 para seleccionar el contenido a reproducir en el cliente...

 ¿Os habéis encontrado con algún software libre que realice estas funciones?


Chequea http://mediagoblin.org/

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Re: [OT] Servidor Multimedia vía Web.

2012-11-19 Thread Esteban Torres Rodríguez

El día 20 de noviembre de 2012 01:07, Ramses
ramses.sevi...@gmail.com escribió:
 Hola a todos,

 Estoy buscando un software para servir contenido multimedia vía web.

 Es decir, este software instalado en un servidor, donde se configuren las 
 carpetas que contienen las fotos, la música y los vídeos, etc, y desde un 
 cliente Web, en otro equipo de la red, se ataque a este servidor multimedia y 
 se pueda seleccionar el contenido a reproducir hacia el cliente...

 Una especie de XBMC, pero que los clientes accedan a él mediante clientes Web 
 para seleccionar el contenido a reproducir en el cliente...

 ¿Os habéis encontrado con algún software libre que realice estas funciones?


 Saludos y gracias,

 Ramses

Mírate este http://mediatomb.cc/


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RE: Re: Dell PowerEdge T620.

2012-11-19 Thread Adiel de Lima Ribeiro

Gilmar e Keppler, qual driver vocês utilizaram?
Meu RAID é em uma controladora Perc 710p. 



On Wed, 2012-11-14 at 17:44 -0200, gilmarli...@agrovale.com.br wrote:
 Tenho um T610 com raid5 via hardware com debian squeeze e com xen.
 Detecta tudo normalmente.
 
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 FROM: jurgenkepp...@gmail.com
 TO: debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org
 DATE: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 14:02:00 -0200
 SUBJECT: Re: Dell PowerEdge T620.
 
  type=citeOlá Adiel.
 Cara, instalei num T-410. Configurei ele num Raid-1 via software para 
 ser um file server. Não tive problemas nenhum.
 Apesar de você utilizá-lo para Virtualização, acredito que não
 terá 
 problemas, mas é bom escutar mais opiniões de outros colegas..
 
 Abraço!
 
 On 14-11-2012 09:45, Adiel de Lima Ribeiro wrote:
  Prezados, bom dia.
  Estou com um Dell PowerEdge T620, pretendo instalar o Debian nele
 com o
  Xen ou o Kvm, alguém já passou por isso, como foi ?
 
 
 
 
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ligação serie always on via shell

2012-11-19 Thread Hélder Pinheiro

Boa tarde pessoal,

Queria abrir uma ligação serie /dev/ttyUSB0 por shell para ficar a recolher
informação para um ficheiro .txt
Tal igual ao que fazemos no putty muitas vezes.

Tentei usar o stty mas não consegui ficar a gravar para o ficheiro
permanentemente.
Sabem como fazer isto? ou sabem outro método?

Cumprimentos,
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Re: comando arp

2012-11-19 Thread Gerson Haus

1) man arp
(o meu está em português)

2) http://www.diolinux.com.br/2012/03/comando-arp-o-que-e.html

 
CAMPANHA ANTI SAPM


De: Logicus logi...@uol.com.br
Para: debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org 
Enviadas: Segunda-feira, 19 de Novembro de 2012 12:25
Assunto: comando arp
 

caros,
 
alguem poderia me indicar um bom tutorial do comando arp em língua portuguesa?
 
obrigado
 
Logicus
E-mail: logi...@uol.com.br
Skype: logicuschat
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adep e idep

2012-11-19 Thread Fred Maranhão

o que significa adep e idep na página
http://packages.debian.org/source/testing/openlayers???

antigamente era só dep (de dependência). agora apareceram estes termos novos.


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touchpad não funciona

2012-11-19 Thread Fred Maranhão

gente,

instalei um debian stable 32 num sony vaio 64 e o touchpad não
funcionou nada. nem o toque nem os botões. que pacote preciso ter
instalado? ja tenho o xserver-xorg-*-synaptics


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Alargamos el BUEN FIN:) 2 X 1 Nevado de Toluca

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Re: Assinem a petição para a Adobe sempre fazer a versão mais recente do Adobe Reader para Linux.

2012-11-19 Thread Gerson Haus



El 18/11/2012, a las 20:43, Juliano Cesar cetapsao...@yahoo.com.br escribió:



sabemos que existem alternativas de leitores de PDF, mas nenhum se compara ao 
Adobe Reader, é uma pena que a Adobe parou de atualizar a sua versão para 
Linux.


Oi, fiquei curioso por saber as coisas que o Adobe Reader tem e as 
alternativas não.


Abraço!
AG




Não sou fã nem defensor da Adobe mas tem uma coisa que não encontrei nas 
alternativas (por favor, corrijam-me se estiver errado):

- Busca por palavra em todos os PDFs de um diretório (recursivo).


Aliás tem outra coisa que só se encontra no Adobe: Várias falhas de 
segurança... rsrsrs

Re: touchpad não funciona

2012-11-19 Thread Eden Caldas

habilita o repositório backports e instala um kernel mais novo por ele.
http://backports-master.debian.org/

Ou entao o kernel liquorix http://liquorix.net/


Em 19 de novembro de 2012 14:49, Fred Maranhão
fred.maran...@gmail.comescreveu:

 gente,

 instalei um debian stable 32 num sony vaio 64 e o touchpad não
 funcionou nada. nem o toque nem os botões. que pacote preciso ter
 instalado? ja tenho o xserver-xorg-*-synaptics


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Re: Assinem a petição para a Adobe sempre fazer a versão mais recente do Adobe Reader para Linux.

2012-11-19 Thread Juliano Cesar

Bom já era esperado o tipo de reação de maior parte daqui, sei que o 
Software proprietário causa raiva em alguns de vcs rs. 

As diferenças é mais para quem sempre usa, lê e imprime desse formato, quem 
abre vários Pdf,s no Abobe e nos demais leitores e vê a diferença.

O Evince ele depende de bibliotecas do Gnome, se instalar ele em outro tipo de 
ambiente de trabalho o menu de ajuda em alguns casos simplesmente dá erro e já 
tem muita gente que não gosta de aplicativos que dependem da api de outros, 
fora o problema de quem usava o LXDE e instalava o Evince, o erro que muita 
gente conviveu durante um longo tempo algo como dual left-schemas, e se 
procura ajuda no IRC dos caras, eles simplesmente não dão bola, e vários já 
reclamaram a mesma coisa, bom sei que eles não são obrigados a nada, mas se 
muitos reportam é porque o problema existe.

O Okular ele já depende do KDE e se eu instalar vai ocupar 184 MB já que não 
uso do ambiente do mesmo e compensa ficar com o próprio Adobe Reader que 
ocuparia bem menos espaço.

O leitor Zathura, embora minimalista (o que eu uso), ótimo para Pcs antigos e 
não depende de ambiente de trabalho, muitos já não saberiam usa-lo, mas ele tem 
alguns recursos do qual sinto falta, como a seleção de textos e saber quando 
uma palavra é um link etc.

Em todo caso, a Adobe já tem um API própria de impressão que é ótima, 
dependendo do PDF que vc for imprimir, as letras podem sair tudo 
desproporcional, algumas letras até engolidas no canto da página, nisso Adobe 
Reader consegue deixar fiel, não é com todos os PDFs que acontece isso, mas 
dependendo do tipo vai haver a possibilidade. 


A forma de como é limpo os textos, não tem aquele preto chamativo, a textura da 
cada palavra, muito fiel, como se tivesse na frente de um livro de verdade, só 
quem conhece realmente sabe.


Quanto a alguns PDF escaneados, a libpoppler dos leitores livres emitem durante 
um enorme tempo com o status carregando, e com isso o consumo de memoria vai 
aumentando e nada que página abre, já com o Adobe Reader, ele consegue ser um 
pouco mais rápido quanto a isso.

Na versão recente Adobe XI, a praticidade que ele tem de marcar de texto não 
tem comparação, pelo duplo clique, ótimo para leitores que gosta de revisar o 
livro com as partes mais importantes etc


Os recursos de acessibilidade e dentre outros.

Como falei, assina quem quiser e divulga nas comunidades quem quiser, não 
obrigo a nada, a petição está para ser portada em vários idiomas, para 
ficar acessível em toda a parte do mundo, a meta embora possa ser absurda, é de 
2 milhões de assinaturas.



 De: Alonso Genis cor...@abgenis.net
Para: Juliano Cesar cetapsao...@yahoo.com.br 
Cc: debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org 
debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org 
Enviadas: Segunda-feira, 19 de Novembro de 2012 0:32
Assunto: Re: Assinem a petição para a Adobe sempre fazer a versão mais recente 
do Adobe Reader para Linux.
 

El 18/11/2012, a las 20:43, Juliano Cesar cetapsao...@yahoo.com.br escribió:


sabemos que existem alternativas de leitores de PDF, mas nenhum se compara ao 
Adobe Reader, é uma pena que a Adobe parou de atualizar a sua versão para Linux.


Oi, fiquei curioso por saber as coisas que o Adobe Reader tem e as alternativas 
não.

Abraço!
AG

Re: Assinem a petição para a Adobe sempre fazer a versão mais recente do Adobe Reader para Linux.

2012-11-19 Thread ProtectNet

[OFF]

Uso o google para ler PDF ou quando realmente me interessa transformo em
TXT para ler no Vi ;D

[/OFF]

Re: ligação serie always on via shell

2012-11-19 Thread Cláudio E. Elicker

On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 15:07:21 +
Hélder Pinheiro pinheiro.helde...@gmail.com wrote:

 Boa tarde pessoal,
 
 Queria abrir uma ligação serie /dev/ttyUSB0 por shell para ficar a
 recolher informação para um ficheiro .txt
 Tal igual ao que fazemos no putty muitas vezes.
 
 Tentei usar o stty mas não consegui ficar a gravar para o ficheiro
 permanentemente.
 Sabem como fazer isto? ou sabem outro método?
 
 Cumprimentos,
 Hélder Pinheiro


socat é perfeito para esse serviço.

Algo como
   socat - /dev/ttyUSB0,raw,echo=0,b9600  ficheiro.txt
deve funcionar.

Use Ctrl-d para terminar o socat. Ctrl-\ ou Ctrl-c também devem servir.

Veja o manual para saber sobre as opções 'raw', 'echo' e 'b9600' para
o seu caso particular.

Se descobrires outro método posta aqui.

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Re: systemd intermittent startup

On Mon, 2012-11-19 at 15:07 +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
 Is this the best place for systemd assistance?

The best place to get assistance are the insane people who try to force
this into every Linux distribution, with LP leading the way.

 First, systemd worked.
 Now it hangs on bootup

That's a feature of systemd.

 So I now edit grub entry and use /sbin/init to log in to post this.

That's only possible, because Debian still does support udev, policykit
etc.. Today I continue to set up Debian or Ubuntu as replacement for my
Arch Linux, because the switch to systemd ships with features like hangs
on bootup.

Don't get me wrong, systemd does work, but you shouldn't set up Linux to
your requirements when using systemd. Set up your Linux the way upstream
wants you to do this, that's the trick.

Hth,
Ralf


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can't install skype 4.1 in debian testing ; lost the working 4.0


Hello,

Is there anyone having luck with skype 4.1 in debian ?
I have tried to install it and get the following dependency issue and
also lost my working skype 4.0

`
dpkg: warning: overriding problem because --force enabled:
 package architecture (i386) does not match system (amd64)
(Reading database ... 228508 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace skype 4.1.0.20-1 (using skype-install.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement skype ...
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of skype:
 skype depends on libasound2 (= 1.0.16).
 skype depends on libc6 (= 2.3.6-6~).
 skype depends on libc6 (= 2.7).
 skype depends on libgcc1 (= 1:4.1.1).
 skype depends on libqt4-dbus (= 4:4.5.3).
 skype depends on libqt4-network (= 4:4.8.0).
 skype depends on libqt4-xml (= 4:4.5.3).
 skype depends on libqtcore4 (= 4:4.7.0~beta1).
 skype depends on libqtgui4 (= 4:4.8.0).
 skype depends on libqtwebkit4 (= 2.1.0~2011week13).
 skype depends on libstdc++6 (= 4.6).
 skype depends on libx11-6.
 skype depends on libxext6.
 skype depends on libxss1.
 skype depends on libxv1.
 skype depends on libssl1.0.0.

dpkg: error processing skype (--install):
 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
Processing triggers for desktop-file-utils ...
Errors were encountered while processing:
 skype



Any link to download the 4.0 version ?

Thanks


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Re: systemd intermittent startup

2012-11-19 Thread Zenaan Harkness

On 11/19/12, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote:
On Mon, 2012-11-19 at 15:07 +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
Is this the best place for systemd assistance?

The best place to get assistance are the insane people who try to force
this into every Linux distribution, with LP leading the way.

So perhaps post to the systemd-devel mailing list (I'm not a #irc
person, just mailing lists)?

First, systemd worked.
Now it hangs on bootup

That's a feature of systemd.

Thank you :) Made my day. Really thought I might have been doing
something obviously wrong...

Don't get me wrong, systemd does work, but you shouldn't set up Linux to
your requirements when using systemd. Set up your Linux the way upstream
wants you to do this, that's the trick.

Reading about it, systemd looks shiny, so I thought I'd assist with
some bug-hunting and resolving by having a go.

The Debian page on installing systemd just says basically apt-get
install systemd. Ended up having to rescue my Full-Disk-Encryption
setup, which was a learning experience indeed :)
Unfortunately, I was not able to say why it didn't boot at all,
basically straight to black screen, so my rescue ended up being a
reinstall :(

Soldiering on, I valiently tried again. This feature of early bootup
hand gets me again, but this time I had three lines of output, as I
posted above originally, although none of the 3 lines implied any
error...

I wouldn't even mind the reinstall so much if I had have been able to
provide some useful bug report, but alas ... perhaps that's another
systemd feature?:)?

Can anyone here say they've achieved any sort of systemd joy, or am I
just asking for an ongoing world of hurt at the moment?

TIA
Zenaan

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Debian wheezy testing - auto printer install

2012-11-19 Thread Johan Scheepers


Good day,

Installed latest wheezy weekly. I understand it is testing.

The printer auto install / manual install  does not work.

Installed splix - no change.

Anything else that should be done?

Would like to test OS if printer does work.

Thanks

JohanS


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Re: GDM3 very slow to load gnome

Use another display manager ;). I still try to fix some GNOME stuff
myself, but I guess it's not worse the effort. The best thing to do IMO
is to be on the look-out for a complete GNOME replacement. Since I'm not
blind, I simply could switch to Xfce, but I e.g. still need Evolution to
access my emails and I already have one Linux install where Evolution is
unusable. I choose Linux because I want versatility. GNOME upstream
started with a dependency to a borked sound server and now the DE
already has a hard dependency to the startup process (again upstream!).
I wonder what the DE has to do with startup? Perhaps there's already an
inconsistency when using GNOME with initd instead of systemd. Dunno!

2 Cents,
Ralf 


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Re: systemd intermittent startup

On Mon, 2012-11-19 at 09:03 +0200, ed mente wrote:
 Have you tried booting from another device and fsck on your root and
 boot partitions?

No, no, I suspect the issue has something to do with read only or not
read only at startup. However, search the web. I don't remember exactly
this issue, but AFAIR this could be the read only or not read only
issue at startup.


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RE: can't install skype 4.1 in debian testing ; lost the working 4.0

2012-11-19 Thread Mark Allums

 Hello,
 
 Is there anyone having luck with skype 4.1 in debian ?
 I have tried to install it and get the following dependency issue and
 also lost my working skype 4.0
 
 `
 dpkg: warning: overriding problem because --force enabled:
  package architecture (i386) does not match system (amd64)
 (Reading database ... 228508 files and directories currently installed.)
 Preparing to replace skype 4.1.0.20-1 (using skype-install.deb) ...
 Unpacking replacement skype ...
 dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of skype:
  skype depends on libasound2 (= 1.0.16).
  skype depends on libc6 (= 2.3.6-6~).
  skype depends on libc6 (= 2.7).
  skype depends on libgcc1 (= 1:4.1.1).
  skype depends on libqt4-dbus (= 4:4.5.3).
  skype depends on libqt4-network (= 4:4.8.0).
  skype depends on libqt4-xml (= 4:4.5.3).
  skype depends on libqtcore4 (= 4:4.7.0~beta1).
  skype depends on libqtgui4 (= 4:4.8.0).
  skype depends on libqtwebkit4 (= 2.1.0~2011week13).
  skype depends on libstdc++6 (= 4.6).
  skype depends on libx11-6.
  skype depends on libxext6.
  skype depends on libxss1.
  skype depends on libxv1.
  skype depends on libssl1.0.0.
 
 dpkg: error processing skype (--install):
  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
 Processing triggers for desktop-file-utils ...
 Errors were encountered while processing:
  skype
 
 
 
 Any link to download the 4.0 version ?


If you are running 64-bit, you will need to install some 32-bit libraries.
The issue many people are having with Skype on Debian is the multiarch
transition.  I think Skype/Microsoft has made changes with 4.1 that address
some multiarch issues while creating others.  If this is the case , 4.0 may
not want to install properly, either.  

Are you running Squeeze, Wheezy, or sid? 

Try this:

#dpkg --add-architectecture i386 
#apt-get update

Then try installing 4.1 package again.  As I said, you may need to add some
32-bit libraries.

Good luck!






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Re: can't install skype 4.1 in debian testing ; lost the working 4.0

2012-11-19 Thread Umarzuki Mochlis

2012/11/19 Mark Allums m...@allums.com:
 Hello,

 Is there anyone having luck with skype 4.1 in debian ?
 I have tried to install it and get the following dependency issue and
 also lost my working skype 4.0

 dpkg: error processing skype (--install):
  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
 Processing triggers for desktop-file-utils ...
 Errors were encountered while processing:
  skype

 

 Any link to download the 4.0 version ?


 If you are running 64-bit, you will need to install some 32-bit libraries.
 The issue many people are having with Skype on Debian is the multiarch
 transition.  I think Skype/Microsoft has made changes with 4.1 that address
 some multiarch issues while creating others.  If this is the case , 4.0 may
 not want to install properly, either.

 Are you running Squeeze, Wheezy, or sid?

 Try this:

 #dpkg --add-architectecture i386
 #apt-get update

 Then try installing 4.1 package again.  As I said, you may need to add some
 32-bit libraries.


last time I tried, I need to have libqt4-gui  ia32-libs-gtk

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dpkg: overwriting file from other package fails despite diversion

2012-11-19 Thread gator_ml

For a pretty complex system modification I need to replace binaries from
several other packages by modified versions. Because I'll need to easily
reproduce these modifications and would like to keep things as
transparent as possible, I wrapped the necessary changes into a Debian
package (I don't want to maintain modified versions of all the affected
packages).

In order to be able to overwrite foreign files without triggering a
conflict, I install diversions for the files in question. As described
in the policy manual
(http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ap-pkg-diversions.html)
I used ad preinst script with something like this:

dpkg-divert --package $our_package --add --rename \
--divert ${dest_name}.org ${dest_name}

As intended, the original file versions are renamed before the actual
installation. Nevertheless, dpkg complains about a conflict and aborts.

For the moment, I work around the problem by renaming my versions of the
affected files so they can be installed without a conflict. I still
install the diversions as described above and in a postinst script
create symlinks with the original file names pointing to my modified
binaries. This works, but is not as transparent as I would like - I
would prefer to directly overwrite the diverted files as described in
the policy manual.

Was there any recent change compared to the policy manual? (I am doing
this on wheezy). Did I get something wrong? To my understanding, this is
pretty exactly the scenario, that is described in the manual ...

Any ideas?
Peter



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Re: can't install skype 4.1 in debian testing ; lost the working 4.0

On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 03:06:46 -0600
Mark Allums m...@allums.com wrote:

  Hello,
  
  Is there anyone having luck with skype 4.1 in debian ?
  I have tried to install it and get the following dependency issue and
  also lost my working skype 4.0
  
  `
  dpkg: warning: overriding problem because --force enabled:
   package architecture (i386) does not match system (amd64)
  (Reading database ... 228508 files and directories currently installed.)
  Preparing to replace skype 4.1.0.20-1 (using skype-install.deb) ...
  Unpacking replacement skype ...
  dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of skype:
   skype depends on libasound2 (= 1.0.16).
   skype depends on libc6 (= 2.3.6-6~).
   skype depends on libc6 (= 2.7).
   skype depends on libgcc1 (= 1:4.1.1).
   skype depends on libqt4-dbus (= 4:4.5.3).
   skype depends on libqt4-network (= 4:4.8.0).
   skype depends on libqt4-xml (= 4:4.5.3).
   skype depends on libqtcore4 (= 4:4.7.0~beta1).
   skype depends on libqtgui4 (= 4:4.8.0).
   skype depends on libqtwebkit4 (= 2.1.0~2011week13).
   skype depends on libstdc++6 (= 4.6).
   skype depends on libx11-6.
   skype depends on libxext6.
   skype depends on libxss1.
   skype depends on libxv1.
   skype depends on libssl1.0.0.
  
  dpkg: error processing skype (--install):
   dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
  Processing triggers for desktop-file-utils ...
  Errors were encountered while processing:
   skype
  
  
  
  Any link to download the 4.0 version ?
 
 
 If you are running 64-bit, you will need to install some 32-bit libraries.
 The issue many people are having with Skype on Debian is the multiarch
 transition.  I think Skype/Microsoft has made changes with 4.1 that address
 some multiarch issues while creating others.  If this is the case , 4.0 may
 not want to install properly, either.  
 

I already have the required 32 bit libraries ( apt-get install lib32asound2 
ia32-libs ia32-libs-gtk)
and never faced any issue with 4.0

 Are you running Squeeze, Wheezy, or sid? 
 
Wheezy 64 bit

 Try this:
 
 #dpkg --add-architectecture i386 
 #apt-get update
 
 Then try installing 4.1 package again.  As I said, you may need to add some
 32-bit libraries.

Yes, tried that too, but the same dependency problem.
Do you know any fix ? 

Thanks


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Re: can't install skype 4.1 in debian testing ; lost the working 4.0


 
 
 last time I tried, I need to have libqt4-gui  ia32-libs-gtk
 

Already installed in my box


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Re: systemd intermittent startup

On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 09:07:17AM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
 On Mon, 2012-11-19 at 15:07 +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
  Is this the best place for systemd assistance?
 
 The best place to get assistance are the insane people who try to force
 this into every Linux distribution, with LP leading the way.

Please do not waste anyone elses times except your own replying to questions
which you cannot answer (and indeed are hostile towards).


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Re: systemd intermittent startup

On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 03:07:54PM +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
 Is this the best place for systemd assistance?

For systemd-in-Debian, most likely, yes.

 First, systemd worked.
 Now it hangs on bootup, with the following messages:

What has changed? Have you upgraded systemd or other packages? From what
version, to what version? (If you know / can figure it out)
`
 Looking at syslog, I get these sorts of red-colored entries (when
 viewed with vim):

Note that vim is colouring lines that match either 'error' or 'fail', so
there may be relevant log lines that are not being coloured. As far as I
can tell none of the lines you have provided are relevant. (But you are
running a name daemon - on purpose?)


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Not OT: systemd intermittent startup

On Mon, 2012-11-19 at 09:27 +, Jon Dowland wrote:
 On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 09:07:17AM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
  On Mon, 2012-11-19 at 15:07 +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
   Is this the best place for systemd assistance?
  
  The best place to get assistance are the insane people who try to force
  this into every Linux distribution, with LP leading the way.
 
 Please do not waste anyone elses times except your own replying to questions
 which you cannot answer (and indeed are hostile towards).

Hi Jon :)

why not warn people to use something that's known for issues only?

Could you please answer this question of the OP:

On Mon, 2012-11-19 at 19:42 +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
 Can anyone here say they've achieved any sort of systemd joy, or am I
 just asking for an ongoing world of hurt at the moment?

Regards,
Ralf


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Re: help with keyboard, lost at GDM-login?

2012-11-19 Thread Morel Bérenger

As a workaround for your wifi, try to do #ifdown wlan0 ; ifup wlan0.

At least, it could avoids the reboot...

Le Lun 19 novembre 2012 7:49, lalberts a écrit :
 lastest news..

 some troubles with iwlwifi are still remaining. my wifi was stable before
 all those troubles.. it is not anymore. after a while it does even fail,
 and only a shutdown helps.. logout is not enough. after hibernate, also the
 wifi fails..

 i love Debian... :-(

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Re: can't install skype 4.1 in debian testing ; lost the working 4.0

2012-11-19 Thread Benjamin Martin


On 19/11/12 09:25, J. B wrote:

Do you know any fix ?


not a fix as such, ... but I got around the problem by installing an
older version of Skype, which I think does not require the multi arch
  skype-debian_4.0.0.8-1_amd64.deb

This version I had knocking about in my Downloads dir, and could find
the original download link, so I put it here for you to download (if you
want it)
 https://sfsdfg.sharefile.com/d/s7694457b5cd41c7a


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Re: systemd intermittent startup

2012-11-19 Thread Zenaan Harkness

On 11/19/12, Jon Dowland j...@debian.org wrote:
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 03:07:54PM +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
Is this the best place for systemd assistance?

For systemd-in-Debian, most likely, yes.

First, systemd worked.
Now it hangs on bootup, with the following messages:

What has changed? Have you upgraded systemd or other packages? From what
version, to what version? (If you know / can figure it out)

Can't answer that. I re-installed the (Lenovo X220) laptop about 24
hrs ago since I could not recover my full-disk-encryption setup
after enabling/installing systemd the first time. I installed Wheezy
using debian-wheezy-DI-b3-amd64-DVD-1.iso

However I'm pretty sure I did an apt-get dist-upgrade off my local
debian mirror - which would have been no more than 72 hrs old, prior
to installing systemd.

And, I think the only interesting things I did otherwise was
installing screen, lighttpd, systemd-gui, gnome-system-tools,
gnome-system-monitor, and pinfo. Unfortunately I was not properly
aware of the hang on boot feature, or I would have taken more
careful notice of exactly the steps I took. Perhaps lighttpd, which is
supposed to be systemd compatible? Perhaps gnome-system-tools?

Looking at syslog, I get these sorts of red-colored entries (when
viewed with vim):

Note that vim is colouring lines that match either 'error' or 'fail', so

Thanks.

there may be relevant log lines that are not being coloured. As far as I
can tell none of the lines you have provided are relevant. (But you are
running a name daemon - on purpose?)

Oh, yes I remember that annoying dependency on bind9 where I went
wft? when installing something:
$ apt-cache rdepends bind9
bind9
Reverse Depends:
task-dns-server
samba4
ldap2zone
|ldap2dns
ikiwiki-hosting-dns
gadmin-bind
dnssec-tools
dlz-ldap-enum
|dhis-tools-dns
|dhis-dns-engine
|education-main-server
collectd-core
bindgraph
dnsutils
bind9utils
|autodns-dhcp

Yes, that's right, I installed samba4... Wanted to learn about it (to
upgrade my old samba3 shares conf) but haven't done any samba config
yet, including have not cp my old samba.conf ...

Zenaan

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RE: can't install skype 4.1 in debian testing ; lost the working 4.0

2012-11-19 Thread Mark Allums

 On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 03:06:46 -0600
 Mark Allums m...@allums.com wrote:
 
   Hello,
  
   Is there anyone having luck with skype 4.1 in debian ?
   I have tried to install it and get the following dependency issue and
   also lost my working skype 4.0
  
   `
   dpkg: warning: overriding problem because --force enabled:
package architecture (i386) does not match system (amd64)
   (Reading database ... 228508 files and directories currently
installed.)
   Preparing to replace skype 4.1.0.20-1 (using skype-install.deb) ...
   Unpacking replacement skype ...
   dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of skype:
skype depends on libasound2 (= 1.0.16).
skype depends on libc6 (= 2.3.6-6~).
skype depends on libc6 (= 2.7).
skype depends on libgcc1 (= 1:4.1.1).
skype depends on libqt4-dbus (= 4:4.5.3).
skype depends on libqt4-network (= 4:4.8.0).
skype depends on libqt4-xml (= 4:4.5.3).
skype depends on libqtcore4 (= 4:4.7.0~beta1).
skype depends on libqtgui4 (= 4:4.8.0).
skype depends on libqtwebkit4 (= 2.1.0~2011week13).
skype depends on libstdc++6 (= 4.6).
skype depends on libx11-6.
skype depends on libxext6.
skype depends on libxss1.
skype depends on libxv1.
skype depends on libssl1.0.0.



Many, if not all, of the above dependencies will need to be i386 versions,
including libc6.  You may need to download and install most of them
individually using dpkg (or perhaps gdebi),



  
   dpkg: error processing skype (--install):
dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
   Processing triggers for desktop-file-utils ...
   Errors were encountered while processing:
skype
  
   
  
   Any link to download the 4.0 version ?
 
 
  If you are running 64-bit, you will need to install some 32-bit
libraries.
  The issue many people are having with Skype on Debian is the multiarch
  transition.  I think Skype/Microsoft has made changes with 4.1 that
address
  some multiarch issues while creating others.  If this is the case , 4.0
may
  not want to install properly, either.
 
 
 I already have the required 32 bit libraries ( apt-get install
lib32asound2 ia32-libs
 ia32-libs-gtk)
 and never faced any issue with 4.0
 
  Are you running Squeeze, Wheezy, or sid?
 
 Wheezy 64 bit
 
  Try this:
 
  #dpkg --add-architectecture i386
  #apt-get update
 
  Then try installing 4.1 package again.  As I said, you may need to add
some
  32-bit libraries.
 
 Yes, tried that too, but the same dependency problem.
 Do you know any fix ?
 
 Thanks


The only fix I know short of installing 32-bit Wheezy in a chroot or virtual
machine is to satisfy all of the dependencies, which will all need to be
i386 versions.  Don't worry; both the i386 and amd64 versions can be
installed side-by-side.

Mark




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Re: can't install skype 4.1 in debian testing ; lost the working 4.0

On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 10:18:33 +
Benjamin Martin benjamin.mar...@twentyci.co.uk wrote:

 On 19/11/12 09:25, J. B wrote:
  Do you know any fix ?
 
 not a fix as such, ... but I got around the problem by installing an
 older version of Skype, which I think does not require the multi arch
skype-debian_4.0.0.8-1_amd64.deb
 
 This version I had knocking about in my Downloads dir, and could find
 the original download link, so I put it here for you to download (if you
 want it)
   https://sfsdfg.sharefile.com/d/s7694457b5cd41c7a

It has saved my life.

many many thanks


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RE: can't install skype 4.1 in debian testing ; lost the working 4.0

2012-11-19 Thread Mark Allums

 The only fix I know short of installing 32-bit Wheezy in a chroot or
virtual
 machine is to satisfy all of the dependencies, which will all need to be
i386
 versions.  Don't worry; both the i386 and amd64 versions can be installed
side-
 by-side.

I'm sorry, please be extremely cautious about installing i386 versions of
libc anf libglib2.0.  I have confused myself about the ability to install
i386 and amd64 side-by-side in every case.  There may be some cases where
you do not want to do this. 

Your instinct about installing the 4.0 may be sound; I simply don't know
your system well enough to make that kind of judgment. 





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Re: can't install skype 4.1 in debian testing ; lost the working 4.0

2012-11-19 Thread Claudius Hubig

Hello J.,

J. B baksh...@gmail.com wrote:
 dpkg: warning: overriding problem because --force enabled:

Don’t use dpkg --force-architecture, but rather enable multi-arch as
detailed in the various how tos online. To get Skype 4.1 working via
multi-arch, you will need some packages from unstable, install them.
If dpkg complains about a missing package foo (such as libqtwebkit4),
do

# apt-get install libqtwebkit4:i386

to install the i386 variant of said package (the amd64 variant won’t
work with Skype i386).

Best,

Claudius


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Re: can't install skype 4.1 in debian testing ; lost the working 4.0

2012-11-19 Thread Francesco Mazzoli

At Mon, 19 Nov 2012 10:35:37 +,
Claudius Hubig wrote:
 Don’t use dpkg --force-architecture, but rather enable multi-arch as
 detailed in the various how tos online. To get Skype 4.1 working via
 multi-arch, you will need some packages from unstable, install them.
 If dpkg complains about a missing package foo (such as libqtwebkit4),
 do
 
 # apt-get install libqtwebkit4:i386
 
 to install the i386 variant of said package (the amd64 variant won’t
 work with Skype i386).

The problem is that that (installing `libqtwebkit4:i386') probably won't work:
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=676162.  The workaround
suggested by John Paul Adrian Glaubitz solves the problem.

Francesco


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Re: Not OT: systemd intermittent startup

On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 10:54:57AM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
 why not warn people to use something that's known for issues only?

It isn't known for issues only. There's a lot of heat and noise about
problems with systemd, that is true, but a substantial amount of that
heat and noise is posts like the one of yours I complained about:
information-free.  The OP asked a support question about software you
don't use. Using systemd in Debian is not a default arrangement, so
the OP must have explicitly installed it and configured their system
to use it. You can then infer that they are reasonably well versed in
what it does, and that the OP is reasonably technically confident. In
fact I'd wager they knew a lot more about systemd than you do, since
they actually run it.

Sadly there's a self-reinforcing pattern on -user where a small group
of people post the majority of responses to queries. As the rate of
reply goes up, the value contained therein drops. The list as a whole
becomes less useful and hospitable to everyone else.

 Could you please answer this question of the OP:
 
 On Mon, 2012-11-19 at 19:42 +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
  Can anyone here say they've achieved any sort of systemd joy, or am I
  just asking for an ongoing world of hurt at the moment?

I use it and have had few problems.


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Re: OpenVPN setup woes

On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 10:14:16AM -0700, peasth...@shaw.ca wrote:
 Tony,

 From: Tony van der Hoff t...@vanderhoff.org
 Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 12:01:13 +
  I'm trying, without much success so far, to set up an OpenVPN server on
  my Squeeze VPS.

 Here OpenVPN works with static key encryption.  These notes might help.
 http://carnot.pathology.ubc.ca/NetworksPage.html

That returns:
The requested URL /NetworksPage.html was not found on this server.

 By the way, this excerpt from the openvpn.man might 
 be pertinent.
--tls-server
   Enable  TLS  and  assume server role during TLS handshake.  Note
   that OpenVPN is designed as  a  peer-to-peer  application.   The
   designation of client or server is only for the purpose of nego-
   tiating the TLS control channel.

I believe OP's problem was due to the shorewall firewall dropping the
connection attempts. How is your post related to this problem?

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RE: can't install skype 4.1 in debian testing ; lost the working 4.0

2012-11-19 Thread Steven Post


On Mon, November 19, 2012 11:28, Mark Allums wrote:
 On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 03:06:46 -0600
 Mark Allums m...@allums.com wrote:

   Hello,
  
   Is there anyone having luck with skype 4.1 in debian ?
   I have tried to install it and get the following dependency issue
 and
   also lost my working skype 4.0

I also had to revert to an older version, more on that below.

[...]


 Many, if not all, of the above dependencies will need to be i386 versions,
 including libc6.  You may need to download and install most of them
 individually using dpkg (or perhaps gdebi),

gdebi will take care of the dependencies for you.




  
   dpkg: error processing skype (--install):
dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
   Processing triggers for desktop-file-utils ...
   Errors were encountered while processing:
skype
  
   
  
   Any link to download the 4.0 version ?
 
 
  If you are running 64-bit, you will need to install some 32-bit
 libraries.
  The issue many people are having with Skype on Debian is the multiarch
  transition.  I think Skype/Microsoft has made changes with 4.1 that
 address
  some multiarch issues while creating others.  If this is the case ,
 4.0
 may
  not want to install properly, either.
 

 I already have the required 32 bit libraries ( apt-get install
 lib32asound2 ia32-libs
 ia32-libs-gtk)
 and never faced any issue with 4.0

4.0 was not multi-arch aware, whereas 4.1 is. This means you no longer
need those ia32-libs installed for skype. Earlier I had 4.0 running using
multi-arch (the 32-bit version), so I didn't need them either way.


  Are you running Squeeze, Wheezy, or sid?
 
 Wheezy 64 bit

  Try this:
 
  #dpkg --add-architectecture i386
  #apt-get update
 
  Then try installing 4.1 package again.  As I said, you may need to add
 some
  32-bit libraries.

 Yes, tried that too, but the same dependency problem.
 Do you know any fix ?

 Thanks


 The only fix I know short of installing 32-bit Wheezy in a chroot or
 virtual
 machine is to satisfy all of the dependencies, which will all need to be
 i386 versions.  Don't worry; both the i386 and amd64 versions can be
 installed side-by-side.

The issue I had (running 64 bit wheezy) is that one of the qt4 libraries
is no installable as multi-arch i386, that library is not required in the
older skype version, hence why I had to revert.
The library conflicts with the debian.readme file of its AMD64 counterpart
if I recall correctly.
I'll file a bug report this evening, if no one beats me to it.


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Re: systemd intermittent startup

2012-11-19 Thread Tom H

On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 11:07 PM, Zenaan Harkness z...@freedbms.net wrote:

 First, systemd worked.
 Now it hangs on bootup, with the following messages:
 Loading, please wait...
 systemd-fsck[249]: /dev/sda5: clean, ...
 plus one similar fsck msg.

 After a minute or two it asks me for root pwd or to Ctrl-D for normal
 bootup. I can get a root prompt, but normal bootup just appears to
 hang again...

 So I now edit grub entry and use /sbin/init to log in to post this.

 Looking at syslog, I get these sorts of red-colored entries (when
 viewed with vim):

 Nov 19 14:31:12 localhost kernel: [0.045814] x2apic not enabled,
 IRQ remapping init failed
 Nov 19 14:31:12 localhost kernel: [0.723077]  pci:00: ACPI
 _OSC request failed (AE_SUPPORT), returned control mask: 0x0d
 Nov 19 14:31:12 localhost kernel: [4.793539] iwlwifi :03:00.0:
 request for firmware file 'iwlwifi-6000g2a-5.ucode' failed.
 Nov 19 14:31:12 localhost kernel: [4.811507] [drm] MTRR allocation
 failed.  Graphics performance may suffer.
 Nov 19 14:31:12 localhost kernel: [7.202959] EXT4-fs (sda5):
 re-mounted. Opts: errors=remount-ro

 Nov 19 14:31:12 localhost named[2353]: error (network unreachable)
 resolving './DNSKEY/IN': 192.33.4.12#53
 Nov 19 14:31:12 localhost named[2353]: error (network unreachable)
 resolving './NS/IN': 192.33.4.12#53
 Nov 19 14:31:12 localhost named[2353]: error (network unreachable)
 resolving './DNSKEY/IN': 2001:500:1::803f:235#53
 Nov 19 14:31:12 localhost named[2353]: error (network unreachable)
 resolving './NS/IN': 2001:500:1::803f:235#53
 Nov 19 14:31:12 localhost named[2353]: error (network unreachable)
 resolving './DNSKEY/IN': 192.36.148.17#53
 Nov 19 14:31:12 localhost named[2353]: error (network unreachable)
 resolving './NS/IN': 192.36.148.17#53
 N
 ...
 Nov 19 14:31:12 localhost named[2353]: error (network unreachable)
 resolving 'B.ROOT-SERVERS.NET//IN': 192.33.4.12#53
 Nov 19 14:31:12 localhost named[2353]: error (network unreachable)
 resolving 'B.ROOT-SERVERS.NET//IN': 2001:500:1::803f:235#53
 Nov 19 14:31:12 localhost named[2353]: error (network unreachable)
 resolving 'D.ROOT-SERVERS.NET//IN': 2001:500:1::803f:235#53
 Nov 19 14:31:12 localhost named[2353]: error (network unreachable)
 resolving 'C.ROOT-SERVERS.NET//IN': 192.33.4.12#53
 Nov 19 14:31:12 localhost named[2353]: error (network unreachable)
 resolving 'D.ROOT-SERVERS.NET//IN': 192.36.148.17#53
 Nov
 ...

 Then there's it gets into time gap territory - of about 12s first,
 then 20s, then 5s etc as seen from this point:
 Nov 19 14:31:15 localhost dbus[2425]: [system] Successfully activated
 service 'org.freedesktop.UPower'
 Nov 19 14:31:27 localhost acpid: client 2946[0:0] has disconnected
 Nov 19 14:31:46 localhost acpid: client connected from 2946[0:0]
 Nov 19 14:31:46 localhost acpid: 1 client rule loaded
 Nov 19 14:31:51 localhost dbus[2425]: [system] Activating service
 name='org.freedesktop.UDisks' (using servicehelper)
 Nov 19 14:31:51 localhost dbus[2425]: [system] Successfully activated
 service 'org.freedesktop.UDisks'
 Nov 19 14:32:05 localhost kernel: [   62.696092] usb 3-1.4: new
 full-speed USB device number 5 using ehci_hcd

 Perhaps it's too early for systemd and its bootup time improvements
 (of course, not booting up takes a lot longer :) ??

It works fine.

You might need to fsck your disk but beyond that you're encountering
delays because your NIC's firmware isn't loading so you network's not
coming up and named is acting up.


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Re: systemd intermittent startup

2012-11-19 Thread Tom H

On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 3:07 AM, Ralf Mardorf
ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote:
On Mon, 2012-11-19 at 15:07 +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote:

Is this the best place for systemd assistance?

The best place to get assistance are the insane people who try to force
this into every Linux distribution, with LP leading the way.

First, systemd worked.
Now it hangs on bootup

That's a feature of systemd.

This is a list for technical assistance so if you want to vent about a
developer, a package, a distribution, or whatever, please start a
blog.

So I now edit grub entry and use /sbin/init to log in to post this.

That's only possible, because Debian still does support udev, policykit
etc.. Today I continue to set up Debian or Ubuntu as replacement for my
Arch Linux, because the switch to systemd ships with features like hangs
on bootup.

Nothing but innacuracy and FUD, as usual.

As I've pointed out in another thread/post [1], you're confusing
consolekit and policykit. Policykit is a standalone
application/package. Consolekit on the other hand has been deprecated
upstream and replaced with systemd by systemd-logind. Please point to
an email (or a blog post) in which one of David Zeuthen, Lennart
Poettering, or Kay Sievers has announced that policykit was being
merged into systemd like udev.

All distributions support udev whether they boot via systemd or not.
The problem is that it's no longer possible for recent versions of
udev to compile it without compiling systemd too. It's silly for
systemd's developers to have done this and they're being rather
pig-headed about allowing udev to be compiled directly as a standalone
package, so perhaps you could vent about that in your first blog
post...

systemd has been the default on Fedora for 18 months and it's been
working just fine. It might have some integration problems on Arch and
Debian, especially if you migrate to systemd as you have to do on
Debian rather than install it directly as is now the default for Arch.

1. http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2012/11/msg00608.html

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Re: Graphic-Card-Resolution in GUI affects blanking virtual-consoles (tty1 etc.)

On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 05:58:38PM +0100, Herbert Schwarzer wrote:
 
 Following issue occurs (in both flavours Squeeze as well as Wheezy):
 Running amd64 KDE-Environment.
 It does not matter running nouveau-graphics-driver or nvidia-graphics-driver 
 (the Debian way ...)
 If I switch from KDE-GUI (tty7) to virtual-consoles (tty1 .. tty6) and login 
 in text-mode -- after a few seconds, theese virtual-consoles will go BLANK.

A few seconds? That is weird. What happens if you start in single user
mode and login as root?

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Re: ACPI issues: backlight and more

On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 07:07:48PM +0200, ed mente wrote:
 Hi,

[...]

 [4.]
 Linux version 3.6.3 (root at clterm) (gcc version 4.6.3 (Ubuntu/Linaro
 ^
 4.6.3-1ubuntu5) ) #6 SMP Sun Oct 28 16:46:38 EET 2012
  ^^

Sorry, but Ubuntu is not Debian. Have you tried asking on an Ubuntu
mailing list?

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Re: can't install skype 4.1 in debian testing ; lost the working 4.0

On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 02:03:41PM +0530, J. B wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 Is there anyone having luck with skype 4.1 in debian ?
 I have tried to install it and get the following dependency issue and
 also lost my working skype 4.0
 
 `
 dpkg: warning: overriding problem because --force enabled:

Ummm, what command are you using?

  package architecture (i386) does not match system (amd64)

Ouch! Don't you think this might cause problems?

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Re: GDM3 very slow to load gnome

2012-11-19 Thread john

On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 09:45:07 +0100
Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote:

=Use another display manager ;). I still try to fix some GNOME stuff
=myself, but I guess it's not worse the effort. The best thing to do IMO
=is to be on the look-out for a complete GNOME replacement. Since I'm
not =blind, I simply could switch to Xfce, but I e.g. still need
Evolution to =access my emails and I already have one Linux install
where Evolution is =unusable. I choose Linux because I want
versatility. GNOME upstream =started with a dependency to a borked
sound server and now the DE =already has a hard dependency to the
startup process (again upstream!). =I wonder what the DE has to do with
startup? Perhaps there's already an =inconsistency when using GNOME
with initd instead of systemd. Dunno! =
=2 Cents,
=Ralf 
=
=
I run gnome3 with lightdm and openbox. It seems to work fine without
some of the bugginess of gdm3. I might add however, that this install
is running on a virtual machine (openbox) - I run it there in the hope
that it becomes useable (for me that is).

John
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Re: systemd intermittent startup

On Mon, 2012-11-19 at 07:44 -0500, Tom H wrote:
 Nothing but innacuracy and FUD, as usual.
 
 As I've pointed out in another thread/post [1], you're confusing
 consolekit and policykit.

I'm not. Didn't you read the links?

  Policykit is a standalone
 application/package. Consolekit on the other hand has been deprecated
 upstream and replaced with systemd by systemd-logind. Please point to
 an email (or a blog post) in which one of David Zeuthen, Lennart
 Poettering, or Kay Sievers has announced that policykit was being
 merged into systemd like udev.

I did post a link. It's not merged, that's not the point.

 All distributions support udev whether they boot via systemd or not.

Yes, for Arch Linux you just have to install systemd, then you get udev.

 systemd has been the default on Fedora for 18 months

Yes, for Fedora. But if you run other distros and they'll force you to
switch, you'll run into issues. If somebody runs Debian and isn't forced
to switch, it should be allowed to warn, that a switch will cause issues
and some issues still aren't solvable at the moment.

Don't worry I'm tired to explain it again and again. Everybody should
switch to systemd, it's superb to have everything startup needs in one
big binary beta blob, much more sophisticated to have a big binary that
isn't ready yet for some distros.

Regards,
Ralf


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Re: GDM3 very slow to load gnome

On Mon, 2012-11-19 at 08:16 -0500, john wrote:
 I run gnome3 with lightdm and openbox. It seems to work fine without
 some of the bugginess of gdm3. I might add however, that this install
 is running on a virtual machine (openbox) - I run it there in the hope
 that it becomes useable (for me that is).

This also should work for any other install. If a special display
manager should be needed, then it would become hard to install different
DEs.

Btw. I had one install using GDM3, but not GNOME and it worked without
issues. Issues with GDM3 started when there was a switch from init to
something else, regarding to package dependencies etc.. It's not wanted
to talk about it, since truth has become the new fear, uncertainty
and doubt.

Regards,
Ralf


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Re: systemd intermittent startup

2012-11-19 Thread Morel Bérenger

Le Lun 19 novembre 2012 14:38, Ralf Mardorf a écrit :
 On Mon, 2012-11-19 at 07:44 -0500, Tom H wrote:

 Nothing but innacuracy and FUD, as usual.


 As I've pointed out in another thread/post [1], you're confusing
 consolekit and policykit.

 I'm not. Didn't you read the links?


 Policykit is a standalone
 application/package. Consolekit on the other hand has been deprecated
 upstream and replaced with systemd by systemd-logind. Please point to an
 email (or a blog post) in which one of David Zeuthen, Lennart
 Poettering, or Kay Sievers has announced that policykit was being
 merged into systemd like udev.

 I did post a link. It's not merged, that's not the point.


 All distributions support udev whether they boot via systemd or not.


 Yes, for Arch Linux you just have to install systemd, then you get udev.


 systemd has been the default on Fedora for 18 months

 Yes, for Fedora. But if you run other distros and they'll force you to
 switch, you'll run into issues. If somebody runs Debian and isn't forced to
 switch, it should be allowed to warn, that a switch will cause issues and
 some issues still aren't solvable at the moment.

 Don't worry I'm tired to explain it again and again. Everybody should
 switch to systemd, it's superb to have everything startup needs in one big
 binary beta blob, much more sophisticated to have a big binary that isn't
 ready yet for some distros.

 Regards,
 Ralf



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If I am not wrong, there IS such a warning if you do the switch. At least,
if you remove the package sysvinit (or whatever name) with aptitude, it
will ask you to write an entire sentance which explain that you are
breaking your system.
Note that I had this sentence with the curses interface of aptitude, and
only when trying to remove init, not when selecting systemd, but IIRC they
are in conflict, so installing one mean removing the second.

That was some months ago, since then I have switched back because I have
seen that to have some advantage it is mandatory to replace old init
scripts and I do not have enough time.

About the systemd problem, I love when I see people say that init is
perfect. I do not feel like I am able to understand what the scripts do or
to modify them. Cascading references, writer's style which differ from one
to the other, and such things are really hard to customize for a beginner.
Init is a part of the system I completely ignore how it works. I guess
that's administrator's realm...
OTOH, systemd is young and not perfect, but it seems to solve at least
that problem and is compatible with init scripts. But I agree it have
strong dependencies on things which should be optional (libcryptsetup14
by example.)

Systemd is not so good, but init is not perfect either.
The first is young and so have bugs, the second starts to be old and so
have workarounds.
I think users should just be able to choose to not depends on one of them
or another, but init seriously need a replacement in my humble opinion. At
least for user computers like eeepc (where starting the computer is
frequent, unlike servers)


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Wheezy beta3 Screen Locked Problem

2012-11-19 Thread Stephen P. Molnar

I am running Wheezy beta 3 in a VM on my 64 bit laptop with 32 bit apps
enabled.

 

I have encountered a strange (at least to me) problem in that only some apps
are locked to the upper left hand corner of the monitor when they are
opened.

 

For example, the Chrome browser can be moved as can the Trashcan can be
moved, while Synaptic is opened in the middle of the screen and can't be
moved.

 

 

Also, I had changed the number of desktops in the Workspaces app to t2o from
the default four.  When I booted into the desktop this morning, the number
of windows was changed back to four (not by my doing) an he app was
unresponsive to changing the number of desktops.

 

Now, I realize that this is a beta distribution, but is there something I
can do to correct this problem?

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Stephen P. Molnar, Ph.D.Life is a fuzzy
set

Foundation for Chemistry   Stochastic and
multivariate

www.FoundationForChemistry.com

(614)312-7528 (c)

Skype:  smolnar1

FW: Wheezy beta3 Screen Locked Problem

2012-11-19 Thread Stephen P. Molnar

Sorry, forget to add that I'm ruining xfce4

 

Stephen P. Molnar, Ph.D.Life is a fuzzy
set

Foundation for Chemistry   Stochastic and
multivariate

www.FoundationForChemistry.com

(614)312-7528 (c)

Skype:  smolnar1

 

From: Stephen P. Molnar [mailto:s.mol...@sbcglobal.net] 
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 9:18 AM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Wheezy beta3 Screen Locked Problem

 

I am running Wheezy beta 3 in a VM on my 64 bit laptop with 32 bit apps
enabled.

 

I have encountered a strange (at least to me) problem in that only some apps
are locked to the upper left hand corner of the monitor when they are
opened.

 

For example, the Chrome browser can be moved as can the Trashcan can be
moved, while Synaptic is opened in the middle of the screen and can't be
moved.

 

 

Also, I had changed the number of desktops in the Workspaces app to t2o from
the default four.  When I booted into the desktop this morning, the number
of windows was changed back to four (not by my doing) an he app was
unresponsive to changing the number of desktops.

 

Now, I realize that this is a beta distribution, but is there something I
can do to correct this problem?

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Stephen P. Molnar, Ph.D.Life is a fuzzy
set

Foundation for Chemistry   Stochastic and
multivariate

www.FoundationForChemistry.com

(614)312-7528 (c)

Skype:  smolnar1

Re: systemd intermittent startup

On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 07:44:39AM -0500, Tom H wrote:
 The problem is that it's no longer possible for recent versions of
 udev to compile it without compiling systemd too.

The truth is a bit more complicated.  You can build just udev from the
systemd sources: make udevd rather than the default make. The
developers have resisted requests to add another phony make target or
configure options to just build udev, arguing that make udevd works
just fine. However, I suspect it's more difficult to build all of the
udev components *and pick them out for an install* than it was before
they merged sources.

The Debian udev package is still from pre-merge and not built from
the systemd sources. I wonder what will happen post wheezy on that 
front…


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Re: systemd intermittent startup